< 1453248002 917289 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1453248536 890471 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1453249663 644270 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453249720 158937 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqlmeprvjzlugpfa QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1453250699 411360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46236&oldid=45335 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+253) 10/* Copyright Violation */ new section < 1453250809 397213 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prepares to swat hppavilion[1] if he doesn't sign pronto < 1453250844 160918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46237&oldid=46236 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+95) 10/* Copyright Violation */ < 1453250862 365809 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK YOU < 1453250877 839116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hppavilion[1] is not prone to signing hth < 1453250906 34468 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm afraid of what has accumulated in the wiki talk pages since i gave up catching up... < 1453250913 15642 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~~~ < 1453250918 833245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: opinions on hppavilion[1]'s actual post? < 1453250929 65284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is right, the esme program does appear to contain a copyright notice < 1453250933 57594 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have no idea why MediaWiki doesn't just automatically append the siggy if ~~~~ doesn't appear in the message < 1453250939 202404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although given how random esme is, that might be part of the syntax rather than a comment < 1453250945 498883 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Fair poitn < 1453250945 684596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Haneb < 1453250958 862856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, "Anything beginning with a | can contain anything and is a comment." < 1453250980 612164 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, hachaf < 1453251012 717748 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earlier I tried to get a MediaWiki wiki running off my nixos PC < 1453251055 274014 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :But did not reach much success < 1453251138 101142 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because mediawiki does not distinguish talk page edits from any other. besides, not _all_ talk page edits are new messages. < 1453251149 791331 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, that makes sense < 1453251197 740803 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia used to have a bot for adding signatures, although lately i've seen some missing them... < 1453251216 639411 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1453251217 856940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen SineBot around for a while actually < 1453251262 825467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, esolang idea: an esolang where all programs must be copyrighted, thus you can't put any examples on the wiki < 1453251277 400152 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Excellent, excellent >:) < 1453251284 343554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs are automatically copyrighted anyway. < 1453251298 16169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes but you can decopyright them (in many countries, anyway) < 1453251308 195017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know, technically a copyright notice doesn't contradict CC-0, does it? >:) < 1453251319 730040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that most examples on the wiki are decopyrighted. < 1453251319 904619 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm pretty sure it does < 1453251322 824903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well CC0 has two halves < 1453251323 606574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just licensed or something. < 1453251326 166423 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't say "all rights reserved" < 1453251326 341207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it contradicts the first half but not the second < 1453251334 196579 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the standard copyright notice copyrighted, I wonder? < 1453251351 640670 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's too short to be copyright hth < 1453251353 923308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather have an esolang where writing any program in it involves violating a patent. < 1453251362 855573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the actual license: http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode < 1453251366 162882 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Trademarked then? < 1453251397 24374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's easy enough to get US software patents to make that doable. < 1453251401 502189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it doesn't seem to be actually contradictory with a copyright notice < 1453251436 701475 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it cannot be trademarked if it's not used for commerce, can it < 1453251443 338741 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah < 1453251455 879579 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, I'm just in this for my crusade against copywritten programs < 1453251507 770717 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want future children growing up in a society where everything is proprietary- even stupid programs in stupid languages < 1453251580 592117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copywritten programs? Are those programs used in advertisements? < 1453251647 125554 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't really know how to spell ~"Copywritten"~ < 1453251746 765412 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyrighted? < 1453251859 345534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone needs to copywrite that "copywritten" :-P < 1453251967 655345 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm the antichopyrist and I approve of this message < 1453252164 306911 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyrosis < 1453252333 206432 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453252874 117605 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1453252932 631632 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1453253286 880641 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :by analogy with light -> lit, copyright -> copyrit. < 1453253382 662426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fight -> fought, copyright -> copyrought < 1453253472 246965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :copywrought in the fires of mount doom < 1453253509 22760 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah, give it a 'ough' to prove how evil it is < 1453253514 98230 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :flight -> flown, copyright -> copyrown hth < 1453253567 93690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly the second ring was destroyed as part of the settlement of Sauron vs. The Free Peoples < 1453253581 687148 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i copyright, i copywrought, i have copywrown < 1453253617 722129 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits \oren\ with the saucepan of writeous grammar ===\__/ < 1453253671 925842 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, that's correct SORRY < 1453254298 592692 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-combzpbzvzcyfcyz JOIN :#esoteric < 1453254362 727809 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gtysjwgsglhjijzm QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1453254366 347789 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-combzpbzvzcyfcyz NICK :heroux < 1453254530 858729 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1453254540 55851 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a programming language called GM (working name, ftr) < 1453254545 353010 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also making one called Gouda < 1453254554 923361 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are both semi-serious languages < 1453254579 176656 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm wondering if I should add some Gouda-like features to GM. < 1453254585 31901 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1453254604 152796 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gouda is based off Mascarpone, I should mention. At least, the idea of reifying/deifying interpreters (pushing them/popping them, using them as data) < 1453254815 156504 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could, if it would work, entirely merge them. And it makes /some/ sense: GM is heavily mathematical, and what's more mathy in programming than self-modifying code? < 1453254906 525284 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : These are both semi-serious languages <-- i dunno, the latter sound cheesy to me < 1453254913 271015 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1453254919 321871 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're going to hell. < 1453254933 669884 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thought I'd let you know. < 1453254934 712184 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1453254952 126187 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had my suspicions already. < 1453255099 118033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, if you're around, can you explain why when americans hear canadians say 'about' and south africans say 'fuck' they render this as 'aboot' and 'fook' respectively, despite the fact that they're clearly 'aboat' and 'fock' and don't sound anything like 'oo'? < 1453255120 508701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's so egregious that i have to wonder if it's a peculiarity to how americans say or hear 'oo' < 1453255147 584931 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoo wooldn't onderstand < 1453255186 687990 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ab uh oo t < 1453255215 171177 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they don't pay attention to the uh before the oo part? < 1453255512 493629 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's a /ʌu/ vowel sequence, but they percieve it as just being /u:/ < 1453255573 41364 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aboat would be /o/ wouldn't it? < 1453255579 527833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't americans say it like that < 1453255595 184443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ʌu/, that is < 1453255635 415830 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thay say somehting like /ʌbæut/ to my ear < 1453255645 444865 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1453255685 253802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an article by an actual linguist about it here http://dialectblog.com/2011/03/20/canadian-raising-nobody-says-aboot/ < 1453255703 116702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't cover the similarly wrong 'fook' (as in the meme from district 9) < 1453255840 254393 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's definitly fock < 1453255842 12808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, fwiw wiktionary's standard pronunciations of 'boat' don't have /o/ as the vowel < 1453255870 326295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :/əʊ/ in RP, /oʊ/ in general american < 1453255958 192444 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-244-93.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1453256452 277887 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i dont really know, actually < 1453256503 403160 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have to do with some kind of perceptual repulsion < 1453256536 896013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i don't know of any accent which would pronounce 'fuck' as 'fook' < 1453256553 455618 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you expect X but the sound produced is Y, you perceive it as whatever is furthest in the Y-X direction < 1453256596 628931 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about in AmEn uses the diphthon [æʊ] at least in my dialect < 1453256629 610990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to stare at my lips in a mirror for a while to convince myself that i was actually saying a diphthong < 1453256640 177998 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if CanEn is [ʌʊ] or [əʊ] then the direction from [æʊ] to either of those is up and to the right < 1453256655 137325 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the most extreme vowel in that direction is english [u:] < 1453256668 534649 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like caricature: focusing on the differences and exaggerating them < 1453256709 392524 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep in mind tho also that [ʌʊ] and [əʊ] dont exist in AmEn, so AmEn ears have to put those into some box or other, and they cant put them in the [æʊ] box < 1453256747 340538 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has to be some other box up and to the right of [æʊ] < 1453256789 210651 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also Phantom_Hoover, we cant discount the possible effect also of cultural depictions of canadians as saying [u:] as well. we'd need to find someone whos kind of oblivious and see what their perception is < 1453256821 525035 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be [ʊ] < 1453256827 245207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, the blogpost i linked theorises that it's an extinct pronunciation that's lived on in pop culture < 1453256828 237071 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brummie < 1453256845 135464 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Ozzie Osbourne < 1453256870 35889 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ozzy, sorry < 1453256887 708214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't work for 'fook' because afaik it started with district 9 in 2009 < 1453256889 233314 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the actual sequence anyway, Phantom_Hoover? i think i misread part of the convo :) < 1453256914 626687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, the article is http://dialectblog.com/2011/03/20/canadian-raising-nobody-says-aboot/ < 1453256941 77236 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1453256944 943964 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 'fook' thing is because there's this meme that the south african characters in district 9 say 'fook' a lot, most notoriously 'fookin prawns' < 1453256954 41211 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah i think fook is another interesting question. i bet S.A. uses a pure vowel, not [oʊ] but probably [o] < 1453256973 290084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone's made a convenient compilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49BB1vE2tY < 1453256988 877030 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[foʊk] is an AmEn word: folk so it people are hearing fook, its because it doesnt sound like folk < 1453257102 436121 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.165.212 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453257123 698101 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dialect perception is really tricky tho, do i dunno < 1453257339 263749 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453257340 795982 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel shovel shovel ♪ < 1453257567 950039 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, oh i just remembered i got started on this whole diversion when i saw someone on reddit try to write an irish accent and end up with 'fook' < 1453257880 45659 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows its scottish people who say fook! < 1453257909 587876 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw another possible issue is that no one knows IPA < 1453257931 586495 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines boily ircing from deep inside a snow cave that he's digged himself < 1453257932 589734 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is IPA that thing that all pronounciations are given in? < 1453257940 217304 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yes < 1453257949 956547 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: If you're dealing with linguists, at least. < 1453257950 845180 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so if Joe Normal wants to write /fʊk/ they would analogize to book and write fook < 1453257957 345972 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. it's not a snow cave, it's a snow dwelling. it has rooms! < 1453257972 401036 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the script that has all the phonemes. < 1453257975 306391 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fook can also be seen as /fuk/ and so there you go < 1453257981 84615 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: phones, not phonemes < 1453258005 787379 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as long as it doesn't have dwelling-ins < 1453258013 861508 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1453258014 172051 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, because "phonemes" only makes sense in the context of a particular language? < 1453258014 346620 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 200150Z 24013KT 9999 FEW013 SCT026 BKN051 M01/M03 Q1009 RMK WIND 670FT 27017KT < 1453258029 992812 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, scottish people don't say fook either! < 1453258036 611815 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody says fook!! < 1453258037 82904 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no, just because "phoneme" means roughly "equivalence class of phones" < 1453258042 150665 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Ah. < 1453258045 707468 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not even glaswegians? < 1453258046 166324 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: fsvo fook :) < 1453258049 738898 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fook fook fook ♪ < 1453258053 17738 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1453258053 447935 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 200200Z 26017G23KT 15SM -SN DRSN BKN035 OVC150 M10/M14 A2999 RMK SC5AC3 SLP160 < 1453258055 455144 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :took fook < 1453258057 272204 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talk to my old grey fook! < 1453258071 730206 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRSN like there's no tomorrow! < 1453258072 17472 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus "all the phonemes" would be about as useful as "all the letters" rather than "all the glyphs". < 1453258080 386894 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49BB1vE2tY < 1453258101 437401 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :note first word: fohkin < 1453258124 765925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(watch rest of video for the experience) < 1453258232 307612 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i see no glaswegians tdnh < 1453258259 403642 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: of course scots say fook < 1453258270 552536 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've watched nae mince in moray, dont pretend! < 1453258273 851468 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9BtScBQaI < 1453258339 732312 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :teuchters don't count! < 1453258350 881192 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :racist < 1453258368 751829 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're practical ENGLISH! < 1453258372 840945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't noticed him saying 'fuck' yet though tbh < 1453258406 775199 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah he doesnt say fuck, thats true < 1453258437 508947 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does say oot (and wrote it too) and coo for cow and so on, like the fake canadian dialect < 1453258482 87552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, 'aboot' is a normal scots thing < 1453258539 93611 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 'fook' doesn't hit me as 'fuck' in any accent i recognise < 1453258539 378936 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think tho that /ʊ/ is maybe anglicized irish maybe? i can hear Dara Ó Briain saying it, i think < 1453258598 987223 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe he says ɔ or something. on british television he doesnt use feck as much as he probably does with an irish audience < 1453258645 988211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i'd expect him to use it more if anything < 1453258677 199554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i'm fairly sure father ted is doused in 'feck' because if they'd been saying 'fuck' that much they'd have been asked to rein it in < 1453258723 698269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, it might well be that i have a very pronounced idea of how 'fuck' sounds < 1453258727 501963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, 'fook' < 1453258779 846243 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im off < 1453258780 925467 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one has it beeped out but the text rhymes it with Tuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLC4h0_C1Q < 1453258861 853408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1453258965 189542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says 'tuck', though < 1453259063 572320 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DRAUGHT CHICKEN < 1453259207 815388 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1453259700 8992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453260669 254952 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453260731 816458 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you know what a great system for expressing musical pitch is? < 1453260735 545129 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :848-EDO. < 1453260745 641006 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One "point" is one 848th of an octave. < 1453260748 906863 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Th. < 1453260767 430867 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, we can assign nominal sizes to various intervals— < 1453260802 14808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 848 < 1453260818 555227 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a minor third is nominally 223 points, a major third is 273, a perfect fourth is 352, a perfect fifth is 496, a minor sixth is 575, a major sixth is 625— < 1453260825 389187 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :848: 2 2 2 2 53 < 1453260863 553550 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that these nominal sizes add and subtract perfectly, and the nominal size of an interval is almost always the correctly rounded version of its exact size. < 1453260950 264749 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A minor second has a nominal size of 79 points. There are two different kinds of major seconds, with different nominal sizes: the smaller one is 129 points, the larger one is 144 points. < 1453260978 974369 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference between these two numbers is 15 points, the nominal size of a syntonic comma. < 1453261268 248427 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The enharmonic diesis, whatever the heck that is (it's a ratio of 128 to 125), is nominally 29 points. < 1453261290 323776 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, there's an interval called the schisma, which is exactly the difference between an enharmonic diesis and two syntonic commas. < 1453261296 375257 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This interval is nominally 1 point. < 1453261309 130788 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, of course, the correct rounded value. < 1453261388 557684 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what this comes to is that 848-EDO suggests a pretty decent way of expressing just interval sizes. < 1453261439 647288 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's gonna be hard to make two "reasonable" just intervals that have the same nominal size, so a nominal size will usually determine just one just interval. < 1453261504 463197 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nominal sizes are a very good match for the actual size of an interval. < 1453261519 61506 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, good luck finding a perceptible difference. < 1453261606 483475 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453262232 268869 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wwdrfoqxafpudyjv JOIN :#esoteric < 1453262349 714055 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1453262388 593853 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, 848-EDO tempers out two commas. < 1453262485 564410 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :First is the "superpythagorean comma" which is 53 perfect fifths minus 31 octaves. This comma is 3.615 cents. < 1453262562 471212 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And second is some other weird comma, which 10 perfect fifths, plus 16 major thirds, minus 11 octaves. < 1453262571 168449 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is 0.569 cents. < 1453262641 783217 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The frequency ratio for the former is 19383245667680019896796723/19342813113834066795298816; the frequency ratio for the latter is 9010162353515625/9007199254740992. < 1453262706 211325 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, 848-EDO also tempers out any integer linear combination of these commas. < 1453263372 694870 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453264141 611404 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1453264611 264742 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1453265995 826495 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453266227 972456 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as I mentioned before < 1453266233 760944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making two languages < 1453266239 431944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And would like to know if I should merge them < 1453266248 971890 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1453266251 582279 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a ukuleke < 1453266271 875265 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: These are serious languages with Eso roots, so I can't just do it without thought < 1453266276 770525 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: *l < 1453266281 80260 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wrong < 1453266287 76367 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1453266294 47423 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be thinking of a ukulele < 1453266300 466685 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an easy mistake < 1453266300 641547 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was < 1453266347 281156 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: One is inspired by Mascarpone and is based off of meta-circular interpretation, the other is rooted in mathematics, with Graphs and Matrices being primitive data types < 1453266400 447183 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both are stack (well, deque) based < 1453266460 200693 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly regrets not saying he was thinking of a ululele < 1453266525 224470 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, "ukuleke" and "ululele" both give about 1.5k hits < 1453266528 424553 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1453266531 67780 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*15k < 1453266552 292302 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1e5 < 1453266568 293476 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the significant digits are not very many < 1453266575 831882 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1e4 < 1453266581 839369 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i can't count < 1453266584 17108 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1******************5 < 1453266687 632638 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i meta-circulr matrices < 1453266690 109265 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+a < 1453266712 910610 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :muphry's law is strong today, even though i only vaguely fit the prerequisites < 1453266723 408756 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, you could have a matrix of meta-circular interpreters < 1453266754 465641 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`murphy < 1453266758 140747 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`muphry < 1453266774 276835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: murphy: not found < 1453266774 454323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: muphry: not found < 1453266780 148878 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see coppro is also affected < 1453266786 754337 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? murphy < 1453266789 84663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :murphy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1453266792 852182 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? muphry < 1453266794 223300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muphry? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1453266799 689292 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? murphy's law < 1453266801 235242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :murphy's law? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1453266806 912779 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? muphry's law < 1453266807 812678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muphry's law? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1453266816 188246 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I cannot spell muphry correctly < 1453266902 435656 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn muphrys law/Mumphrie's Law says things will be misspelled at the worst possible moment. < 1453266904 579137 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: So. Merge the languages? Yes? No? < 1453266906 249201 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «muphrys law» < 1453266924 574238 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizza -> < 1453267002 476302 :guideX!~guide_X@unaffiliated/guidex JOIN :#esoteric < 1453267011 641566 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome guideX < 1453267018 290081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02guideX: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1453267021 543207 :guideX!~guide_X@unaffiliated/guidex PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening < 1453267031 112565 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackbot's a little slow today. Took 7 seconds to respond ._. < 1453267066 658252 :guideX!~guide_X@unaffiliated/guidex PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool chan < 1453267074 589924 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel is mostly asleep at this moment IIANC, but the wiki is always full of stuff < 1453267092 365118 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: C? < 1453267106 465254 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: C? C as in...? < 1453267107 319530 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1453267109 149682 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask muphry < 1453267124 653411 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, as in IIANC < 1453267133 484818 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If I am not clueless" < 1453267147 853853 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best I could think of off the top of my head < 1453267377 613554 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm awake, because I almost live and work by california time < 1453267458 640616 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately that is < 1453267509 966837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1453267796 91574 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i seem to have got a backlash to beijing time < 1453269079 494085 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of my coworkers in Zurich seem to do the same. < 1453269093 670591 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, I *hope* that's why they're answering things at 1 AM their time. < 1453269199 287880 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1453269491 222265 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1453269528 810255 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1453269614 923028 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up asking and am just going to merge them < 1453272070 161960 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1453273393 158744 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453273784 186452 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1453275186 267593 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.165.212 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453277118 862344 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453277135 948409 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a man, a plan, a god's 'nam tables, nitrate, tar, tinsel, batman's dog: anal panama < 1453277226 914879 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1453277240 815605 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inxkcdeed. < 1453277985 62327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1453278214 121280 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxxkcd < 1453278300 705996 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453278307 424596 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnąrd < 1453278346 519290 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ą < 1453278357 532069 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: chop chop < 1453278359 650422 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-244-93.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453278365 655726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0105 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH OGONEK] < 1453278463 447971 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453278567 341311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote U\+ < 1453278568 360937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :740) U+2205 [∅] NO LETTER O ALLOWED < 1453278576 828014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1453278583 366508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no other uniquodes? < 1453279185 677495 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:c81d:7bf9:c63:3e4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1453279288 928117 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-umimtoplojnyhziw NICK :incomprehensibly < 1453279334 284201 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-umimtoplojnyhziw NICK :glowcoil < 1453280076 685657 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:c81d:7bf9:c63:3e4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1453280731 678615 :bender|!~benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:c81d:7bf9:c63:3e4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1453280859 773016 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453281444 772811 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ∅ < 1453281453 997664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2205 EMPTY SET] < 1453281473 630661 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fuck can fflush cause a sigsegv? < 1453281509 380797 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fp is invalid < 1453282902 462551 :andrew__!~andrew@116.25.144.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453283246 694148 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-244-93.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1453283468 768482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1453283655 270691 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453283673 766934 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it then use EBADF or something like that? < 1453283679 621342 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than faulting < 1453283742 697551 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1453284345 661206 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 PART :#esoteric < 1453284355 267534 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: if it gets something that's non-NULL but not pointing to an actual FILE, it might try to follow something it thinks should be a valid pointer but isn't... < 1453284405 796852 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an actual valid FILE structure < 1453284438 877083 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it won't check for totally corrupted memory or bad casts < 1453285106 735987 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that FD is int < 1453285115 461655 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1453285115 685214 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1453285122 802034 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :close(fd); works < 1453285124 813691 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fflush(fd); crashes < 1453285129 656603 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: FILE is not necessarily FD afaik < 1453285145 884581 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fflush takes a *FILE < 1453285155 174518 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1453285158 28402 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's flush :( < 1453285158 689021 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, FILE * < 1453285326 850076 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unistd apparentely has no flush < 1453285366 685201 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1453285368 101891 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably fsync < 1453285458 84773 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic_ < 1453285526 502526 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453285587 983083 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453285605 125927 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i am not sure that file descriptors without a stream _have_ any buffering to flush < 1453285668 269142 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, fsync looks like the closest < 1453285708 114779 :andrew__!~andrew@116.25.144.162 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453287244 474109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453287331 160190 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453287388 8053 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1453287514 239022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1453287527 49738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453288711 404515 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I confused unistd stuff with stdio stuff < 1453288722 344411 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdio stuff uses FILE* < 1453288729 811904 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas unistd uses int < 1453288871 35912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have hoped a compiler to say an empathic 'no' to fflush(fd). < 1453288903 992535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning < 1453289160 657338 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you'd think. < 1453289213 548297 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! cc fflush(1); < 1453289224 665706 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c fflush(1); < 1453289254 514975 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/cc: not found < 1453289260 347063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53: 310 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1453289283 907341 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int n = 1; fflush(n); < 1453289292 633844 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53: 313 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1453289304 353665 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh not even then... < 1453289312 530971 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1453289339 217285 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c include \nint main() { int n = 1; fflush(n); } < 1453289346 50708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1453289361 288119 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1453289365 26998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453289366 306855 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1453289377 183793 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c #include \nint main() { int n = 1; fflush(n); } < 1453289382 856436 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1453289393 427603 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1453289434 648806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453289454 316163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc #include \n int main() { int n = 1; fflush(n); } < 1453289457 878616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1453289460 763846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1453289467 156717 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1453289485 635156 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just random < 1453289503 779099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an enabled-by-default warning, but not an error. < 1453289508 653403 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's definitely not type safe < 1453289517 975592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And our `cc and `! c aren't that good about error reporting. < 1453289525 516243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: passing argument 1 of ‘fflush’ makes pointer from integer without a cast [enabled by default] < 1453289561 292459 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1453289573 192514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a prototype, it's a warning for -std=c99 or newer, because C99 removed implicit function declarations. < 1453289622 159372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But GCC versions < 5 default to "gnu89".) < 1453289714 393055 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453290025 764284 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using clang. < 1453290066 323655 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I must have missed the warnings < 1453290089 265316 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1453290094 639961 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's why I always use -Wall -Werror (at least with gcc) < 1453290504 714915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Subject: LET US ACTUALIZE THIS DREAM TOGETHER" < 1453290582 316070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The dream in question involves $8.6M USD "kept in a big suitcase secretly hidden", as well as 86 kg of gold.) < 1453290953 168026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1453291017 748569 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453291037 907666 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful. "A million dollars will fit inside a microwave oven." http://izismile.com/2011/05/31/where_can_you_hide_one_million_dollars_cash_13_pics.html < 1453291133 757402 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1453291184 644694 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was wondering how big that big suitcase would have to be) < 1453291202 988024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gathered < 1453291225 75644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a gameshow on UK TV called The Million Pound Drop < 1453291234 97540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of its main gimmicks is that it's played with a physical million pounds in cash < 1453291258 624046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you happen to see even just the start of the show, it gives you a good idea of what that looks like volume-wise < 1453291278 621415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"big suitcase" thus feels about right, a small one wouldn't be big enough but a big one would be < 1453291283 971083 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will leech a Sample from YouTube, thanks ais523. < 1453291328 659594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that when the contestants win (some subset) of it the producers just take the cash back and give a cheque for the value in exchange < 1453291337 178202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they don't have to keep getting more cash as the episode goes on < 1453291345 975336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps they have another few million spare just in case :-) < 1453291510 259850 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there's no Bank of England £100 notes, and £50s are quite large, so £1000000 is gonna be a lot larger volume than $1000000 < 1453291527 386138 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're in Scotland maybe < 1453291531 614494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the show uses £50s but I wasn't paying attention < 1453291563 51832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Bank of Scotland notes are legal in England, aren't they? just most stores don't accept them because they don't know how to check if they're genuine < 1453291654 467568 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soooort of < 1453291691 426260 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're as much currency as the shopkeeper says it is < 1453291709 639909 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're not legal tender (even in Scotland) < 1453291766 573164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because nothing is legal tender in Scotland < 1453291841 239592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think coins are < 1453291867 954987 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/0Lq8BCpP \o/ < 1453291870 980018 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making progress. < 1453291960 609171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, what are you doing? < 1453291990 801668 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EMOTIONAL CHICKEN < 1453292048 232169 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's kind of a high-level virtual machine. < 1453292062 274488 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say "shell emulator" I don't know how to call it exactly. < 1453292118 949786 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, sounds like it could be interesting < 1453292134 726063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1453292243 739688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453292380 452913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1453292529 155846 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453292732 836098 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1453293153 22011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1453293503 773071 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453293581 674328 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453293831 798486 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453293832 91890 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1453293832 318207 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1453293889 840268 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently you can't cat the same file twice o_O < 1453293957 454210 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1453293960 156373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ >^.^< < 1453293988 337966 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah didn't properly open files < 1453294203 699247 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/gRbWOoAu works now :) < 1453294359 224742 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'll give you an account once it's up and running in the wild ;) < 1453294819 399363 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1453294852 989879 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1453294916 515754 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1453294932 865897 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1453295305 267857 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1453295858 673758 :bender|!~benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:c81d:7bf9:c63:3e4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 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1453298591 203906 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453298628 445396 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1453298646 351192 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453298968 753944 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453298968 978364 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Client Quit < 1453298988 814436 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453299281 858228 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1453299459 264407 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why did you reconnect me? < 1453299460 49113 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas_: atomic unit. you can't very well call them. like that one. do you favour any particular album of his? what's he need a dns implementation for? i do like females with character, ya know < 1453299486 732255 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :b_jonas < 1453299552 367792 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot implying he atomically changed your gender < 1453299552 592697 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wish i had food here. will be over < 1453299583 527026 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: um i'm not sure i have anything bots can eat < 1453299583 789657 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you obviously don't. :p fnord/ sym/ fnord) can i tell csi to load that value into the variable " window-system" will be used < 1453299602 834021 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sorry i don't know csi < 1453299603 434775 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no fun killing them when you have no lips, mister bob. after that, it's very difficult to be defined before you use the low-level libraries. thus, as knowledge approaches zero, money approaches infinity, the interpreter < 1453299615 4137 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sidles away < 1453299630 181788 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1453299630 465348 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1453299672 13473 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no fun killing them when you have no lips, mister bob." is quotable < 1453299780 297428 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think iwc reruns are about where it was when i started reading it < 1453299780 297481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like it came from a movie. < 1453299835 359606 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost 10 years ago < 1453299883 75222 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1453300296 582143 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453300371 612424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's a good idea. in an esolang, I should call the flip function inSovietRussia or something like that < 1453300387 938939 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, not a very good idea. < 1453300430 460098 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Client Quit < 1453300452 362054 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1453300584 601373 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453301000 151 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1453301010 218838 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1453301984 883011 :Guest81954!~nitrix@104.236.108.9 QUIT :Changing host < 1453301985 146540 :Guest81954!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1453301992 233068 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as knowledge approaches zero, money approaches infinitiy < 1453301995 865354 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*infinity < 1453301996 786606 :Guest81954!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix NICK :nitrix < 1453302422 785822 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define inSovietRussia = flip ($) < 1453302424 686794 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1453302440 297737 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [0..9] `inSovietRussia` reverse < 1453302442 183973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,0] < 1453302474 202812 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define inGermany = ($!) < 1453302475 555880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1453303322 672767 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.51.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453303973 526314 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1453305586 618198 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.51.47 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1453305885 813008 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1453305897 620379 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1453306027 904339 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1453306059 618497 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1453306343 49670 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453306587 142971 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xmkqtakjlnituvzx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1453306672 645034 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1453306686 822307 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1453307974 106928 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/uSihdC3c :) < 1453310320 506788 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wwdrfoqxafpudyjv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1453310703 662476 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.211 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1453312403 747150 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1453312429 497522 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453312997 697891 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1453313093 180757 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1453313869 697696 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453313870 990279 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1453313891 756202 :kragniz_!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1453313891 756266 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453314040 847824 :jameseb-!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1453314122 101754 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453314124 568101 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453314125 610701 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453314125 610792 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:j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453315699 667307 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453315722 110022 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1453315722 335841 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453316027 694776 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453316057 754163 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453316135 146995 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1453316287 195867 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/session QUIT :Changing host < 1453316287 422220 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-pdwrhtfwakkcytwm JOIN :#esoteric < 1453316292 656295 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453316346 225430 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453316347 765851 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453316801 246188 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-waepvvsrslqmsgam JOIN :#esoteric < 1453318362 769769 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1453319550 803066 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gouda is going well :) < 1453320150 425781 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-244-93.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453320270 784732 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453321085 605157 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1453321085 783507 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453321719 411940 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453321719 810410 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453321724 725458 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1453322441 835132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46238&oldid=46237 5* 03GermanyBoy 5* (+154) 10/* Copyright Violation */ < 1453322575 126775 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1453322575 305832 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453322833 803013 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453322846 4121 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1453323108 283941 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1453323204 987748 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453323206 80525 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453324390 839459 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453324662 557125 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453325577 808804 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453326050 775734 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1453326108 834178 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1453326123 479673 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453326623 444049 :jameseb-!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io NICK :jameseb < 1453327282 819665 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453327883 867680 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1453327890 719476 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453327916 422398 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453327937 399015 :kragniz_!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu NICK :kragniz < 1453328193 100834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07PanASCIIc Programming Language14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46239 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1789) 10Created Page < 1453328256 127589 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1453328294 782332 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-2-34-206-122.cust.vodafonedsl.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1453328419 690299 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453328530 687690 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1453328723 174224 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does $! do? < 1453328733 327988 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1453328759 956048 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1453328949 572934 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453329029 270771 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :strictly apply a function < 1453329064 12427 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way $ does? < 1453329068 223480 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> const 0 undefined -- evaluating undefined would give an error, but we don't need to < 1453329068 223507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1453329080 675601 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> const 0 $! undefined -- this way we force haskell to evaluate it < 1453329082 389310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1453330083 712250 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1453330331 482810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src ($!) < 1453330331 767798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f $! x = x `seq` f x < 1453330371 481137 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1453330385 303786 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1453330681 697752 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453330690 362121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It took me this long in life to realize there's a pun in the name "K-9". < 1453330731 407084 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we havea similar pun on university < 1453330798 989074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How long? < 1453330835 671492 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1453330843 145961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, how long has it been? 32 years or so. Not that I spent all that time thinking about it. < 1453330844 28885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulproteus/List_of_puns_that_took_Asheesh_more_than_a_year_to_get hth < 1453330858 640099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make a page like that < 1453330869 778148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been keeping track. < 1453330959 358975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ray-Ban was a new one for me. < 1453331052 703515 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't get some of these < 1453331093 290180 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what abput that don't let's start thing? < 1453331103 350065 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even understand < 1453331160 345955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's a song. < 1453331180 937249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://play.google.com/music/preview/Ttveq7pmiusetyflqcu4sk6jxne?lyrics=1 < 1453331290 679185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I logged onto my flickr account for the first time in over a year, and someone had sent three identical messages about wanting to use a picture of an elephant on a website that's a database of pictures of elephants. < 1453331326 544477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Months ago.) < 1453331452 639910 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-244-93.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1453331537 677758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is https://www.flickr.com/photos/21230734@N06/ you? < 1453331690 434979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately not. < 1453331722 582169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzief/14435641202/ is the elephant in question. < 1453331727 535045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not the elephant either.) < 1453332042 341453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay elephants < 1453333165 800462 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453333720 658025 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-waepvvsrslqmsgam QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1453334095 100695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453334364 638744 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds