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00:19:38 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsq9s6_qPKU
00:20:17 <\oren\> HWAAAAAAAT
00:22:48 <\oren\> why the hell is the color "snow" slightly red?
00:24:42 <\oren\> real snow is, if anything, slightly BLUE!
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00:55:03 <fizzie> \oren\: Depends on how much BLOOD there is in it.
00:55:28 <\oren\> AAAAAAAAAAAA THE X11 DEVS MURDERED SOMEONE!
00:57:10 <fizzie> The one with a similarly slight blue tint seems to be "ghost white", which is a bit ominous as well.
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01:00:07 <fizzie> According to the nice, long answer at http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72919/what-are-the-origins-of-rgb-txt snow was added in X11R4, and there are some notes on where the color values came from, but nothing particular about snow.
01:05:03 <\oren\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_snow
01:07:30 <fizzie> Don't eat the pink snow.
01:07:38 <coppro> does there exist a non-shitty ime on linux
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01:12:40 <\oren\> anthy is ok
01:30:03 <zzo38> I think I may have once made up the custom card like that where that state based action doesn't apply while it is on the stack; I don't know if I put it into the computer yet
01:36:03 <zzo38> Endurance Lights {1} Artifact ;; Flash ;; You don't lose the game due to having zero or less life while there are any objects on the stack.
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02:17:58 <adu> is anyone else in here in a cold place?
02:21:26 <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan's in norway but he just quit
02:22:06 <shachaf> @metar EGLL
02:22:07 <lambdabot> EGLL 240150Z AUTO 19008KT 9000 OVC004 09/08 Q1026 TEMPO SCT004 BKN006
02:22:10 <shachaf> I guess that's not that cold.
02:25:33 <adu> There is about 4 feet of snow here
02:26:01 <adu> but at least I have internet :)
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02:41:16 <\oren\> I'm in toronto
02:41:23 <\oren\> @metar CYYZ
02:41:25 <lambdabot> CYYZ 240200Z 35008KT 15SM SKC M08/M11 A3004 RMK SLP187
02:41:37 <shachaf> why are you in toronto
02:41:47 <\oren\> Uh, I was born here.
02:42:00 <shachaf> Right, but it's M08.
02:42:28 <adu> \oren\: Toronto is pretty cold
02:42:28 <shachaf> Pretty cold.
02:42:42 <adu> I went to Canada for a week
02:43:01 <adu> it was a cold week
02:43:11 <\oren\> I went to CYYB for christmas
02:43:18 <\oren\> @metar cyyb
02:43:18 <lambdabot> CYYB 240200Z 33003KT 15SM SKC M18/M19 A2997 RMK SLP187
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02:43:37 <\oren\> it was a warm christmas though
02:43:38 <adu> are these lattitude/longitudes?
02:43:50 <\oren\> airportcodes
02:44:06 <adu> I thought airport codes were 3 letters
02:44:08 <\oren\> CYYZ = toronto pearson airport
02:44:15 <\oren\> the international ones are 4
02:44:27 <adu> ah, then I'm a stupid American
02:45:01 <shachaf> I don't think it's specifically about being international.
02:45:06 <\oren\> CYYB = north bay
02:45:23 <coppro> IATA codes are four. ICAO are three
02:45:26 <shachaf> It's ICAO vs. IATA.
02:45:32 <coppro> in Canada, IATA is usually just C+ICAO
02:45:41 <coppro> err wait
02:45:43 <coppro> got them backwards
02:45:54 <coppro> ICAO is four
02:46:22 <coppro> IATA is a trade association of airlines. ICAO is the governing body
02:47:55 <FireFly> I think outside of METAR I've mostly seen the three-letter ones actually
02:48:16 <FireFly> I've certainly seen ARN more than ESSA for Arlanda
02:48:23 <shachaf> TLV is easier to remember than LLBG
02:48:50 <shachaf> The Amerikan ones are easy to remember because you just add a K
02:49:48 <FireFly> Handy
02:49:58 <adu> I've also been to Narita/Tokyo (NRT) and Kansai/Osaka (KIX)
02:50:40 <adu> both, in Japan, obviously
02:52:13 <FireFly> The only airport outside of Europe that I've flown to would be Newark, which is apparently EWR
02:52:19 <FireFly> I need to see more of the world..
02:52:41 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
02:52:50 <shachaf> NewireFly
02:53:16 <shachaf> Newark is a little scow to get to from NYC
02:53:27 <shachaf> Well, they all are, when you're going to Manhattan or the Bronx.
02:53:41 <FireFly> We took one of them shuttle busses to grand central IIRC
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02:54:20 <shachaf> Yes, I've done that.
02:54:25 <FireFly> It wasn't too bad
02:54:27 <shachaf> I guess it's not that bad.
02:54:32 <shachaf> I also took the train.
02:54:47 <shachaf> TRAAAAAAIN
02:54:48 <FireFly> What train?
02:55:47 <FireFly> Hmm
02:56:46 <shachaf> NJ Transit
02:57:19 <FireFly> Oh, I didn't realise there were trains to/from EWR.. makes sense though
02:57:48 <shachaf> It goes to Penn station in Manhattan
02:58:00 <shachaf> Not to be confused with Newark Penn Station
02:58:23 <shachaf> Which isn't to be confused with Newark Liberty Internation Airport station
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03:09:10 <zzo38> ?metar CYVR
03:09:10 <lambdabot> CYVR 240300Z 24005KT 15SM FEW008 BKN016 BKN150 07/06 A2985 RMK SF1SC5AC1 SLP111
03:10:06 <zzo38> It is the airport close to where I am at.
03:14:19 <FireFly> @metar ESSB
03:14:20 <lambdabot> ESSB 240250Z AUTO 26008KT 4100 BR OVC003/// M01/M02 Q1020
03:14:33 <FireFly> It's probably too close to the city to be very cold
03:15:12 <shachaf> DireFly
03:16:06 <shachaf> http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=4813
03:16:16 <zzo38> SELECT "DATA" FROM "METAR" WHERE "AIRPORT" = 'CYVR' ORDER BY "TIMESTAMP" DESC LIMIT 1; -- They ough to add into SQLite the support of virtual table consuming LIMIT/OFFSET clauses!!!
03:30:35 <Sgeo_> Virtual table?
03:30:39 <Sgeo_> Is that distinct from a view?
03:30:55 <shachaf> Sgeo_: http://store.steampowered.com/app/286160/ hth
03:31:50 <zzo38> Yes, a virtual table is something like a foreign view implemented as an extension, although not quite
03:32:05 <Sgeo_> Seems a bit expensive? Although I guess you can play games for real. Needs VR support. Oh, and I just got the joke
03:33:17 <zzo38> It is distinct from a view though.
03:33:18 <Sgeo_> A chess program that lets you play any physically realizable chess variation seems interesting though
03:36:04 <Sgeo_> Hmm, maybe it is actually worthwhile
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04:15:54 <\oren\> Sgeo_: hmm, the easiest way to do that would just to have pieces movable with the mouse, and a chat screen, with no programmatic enforcesment of rules.
04:16:14 <Sgeo_> \oren\, that's exactly what shachaf linked
04:17:49 <\oren\> NICE
04:21:32 <zzo38> I would want to be able to moves entered by keyboard and to support hidden information and random too, which may require a few more programming, but still you do not necessarily have to program all of the rules of the game.
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04:31:49 <zzo38> Some chess variants can use hidden and random and cards and so on, but, even if the game uses dice does not necessarily mean it is random, such as 123456 Chess is using dice without random.
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04:44:22 <\oren\> I just bought Kerbal Space Program
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04:46:34 <MDream> SPAAAACE
04:46:43 <MDream> Get ready to build the things.
04:48:28 <\oren\> "I'm Gene Kerman Flight Director" --- iii see what you did there...
04:49:47 <\oren\> the head of science is "Wernher von Kerman" 
04:52:36 <zzo38> http://play.chessvariants.com/pbm/play.php?game=123456%2520Chess&log=maeko-makov333-2009-359-344&submit=View&orientation=fixed&scale=100&render=table&shape=square&set=alfaerie-many&colors=339933+CCCC11+22BB22 If the king is moving to b8, then the dice on d8 can be captured by rook and moved to f7, which is forcing to jump. I don't know if there is a good move though
04:52:55 <zzo38> http://play.chessvariants.com/pbm/play.php?game=123456%2520Chess&log=nwolff-cvgameroom-2011-95-172&submit=View&orientation=fixed&scale=100&render=table&shape=square&set=alfaerie-many&colors=339933+CCCC11+22BB22 How do you expect to continue the game?
04:58:02 <\oren\> one of my pilots "Valentina Kerman"
05:01:55 <\oren\> ok, i fired the engine and the paracute at the same time but it went ok
05:02:35 <\oren\> as in noone died and I reached 500 m altitude
05:03:41 <\oren\> I got 8 atoms!
05:17:55 <\oren\> ok now how the fuck am I supposed to get back down from outside the atmosphere
05:18:17 <\oren\> this guy's gonna starve isn't he
05:19:41 <\oren\> oh, I'm pointed right at the sun
05:20:03 <\oren\> nvm I'm only going 1 km/s
05:24:24 <\oren\> i'm pretty sure the heat shild won't work if i go in nost-first
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06:26:26 <\oren\> ok, now I've gotten out of the atmosphere in a craft i'm pretty sure won't blow up
06:27:37 <\oren\> on the other hand there are lots of other ways my pilot could die
06:41:06 <\oren\> AUGH
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10:07:11 <zzo38> JavaScript might be a improve kind of programming language if with macros included such as:   macro ptr(x) {* ({ get: () => (x) , put: #x => (x=#x) }) *};
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11:12:50 <J_Arcane> I believe there's a library for that.
11:13:08 <J_Arcane> http://sweetjs.org/
11:18:35 <\oren\> yeah, let's detach the booster then fire it, that'll work
11:18:39 <\oren\> ugh
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13:44:54 <oerjan> @metar ENRO
13:44:55 <lambdabot> ENRO 241320Z AUTO VRB02KT 9999NDV -SHSN BKN034/// OVC046/// M10/M11 Q1015
13:45:03 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
13:45:04 <lambdabot> ENVA 241320Z 05003KT 360V090 9999 BKN028 M00/M01 Q1016 TEMPO BKN014 RMK WIND 670FT VRB02KT
13:51:57 <ais523> @metar BHGG
13:51:58 <lambdabot> No result.
13:52:01 <ais523> err
13:52:13 <oerjan> @metar EGBB
13:52:14 <lambdabot> EGBB 241320Z 21007KT 180V240 9999 BKN009 13/13 Q1024
13:52:18 <ais523> right
13:53:56 <oerjan> europe, great britain, birming*mumble*
13:54:13 <oerjan> (the britain is in the G)
13:54:35 <oerjan> possibly it means all of UK
13:54:47 <oerjan> but that's my mnemonic
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13:56:22 <oerjan> wtf is edinburgh EGPH and a small nowhere airport is EGED
13:56:49 <oerjan> "Eday Airport (IATA: EOI, ICAO: EGED) is located on Eday in Orkney, Scotland. As it is close to the Bay of London it is known locally as London Airport."
13:57:55 <ais523> clearly we need to find an airport in Thule :-D
13:58:32 <oerjan> "Thule Air Base or Thule Air Base/Pituffik Airport (IATA: THU, ICAO: BGTL), is the United States Air Force's northernmost base, located  ..."
13:59:10 * oerjan is not sure what ais523 meant
14:01:04 <oerjan> hm norwegian and english wikipedia disagree on the ICAO for Nuuk, Greenland
14:01:17 <ais523> oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
14:01:29 <ais523> it's my favourite bit of esogeography
14:01:54 <ais523> it was historically considered part of the general Britain area, and is known to be to the north of Great Britain
14:01:59 <ais523> but there's conflicting reports as to where it actually is
14:02:15 <ais523> thus it's a known landmass but we're not actually sure which one
14:02:33 <ais523> the leading theory IIRC is that it's a mistaken interpretation of Norway as an island
14:03:06 <ais523> although mine is that, given that navigation wasn't very good at the time, that multiple different landmasses were reached by different people who went out in that direction, and incorrectly believed to be the same
14:03:28 <oerjan> you have to travel pretty far north to prove that scandinavia _isn't_ an island
14:03:58 <ais523> yes
14:04:55 <ais523> it could also reasonably be Iceland, which is in approximately the right place
14:05:12 <ais523> hmm, it's interesting to think back on the days when people didn't have the accurate navigation we do nowadays
14:05:23 <ais523> and might genuinely be unable to explain just where a country is, having found it
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14:16:34 <oerjan> hm right, no good longitude
14:17:39 <oerjan> apparently i've never edited norwegian wikipedia logged in before.
14:20:14 <Taneb> oerjan: hvor rart
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14:20:34 <oerjan> *så rart
14:20:45 <oerjan> don't worry, it's a subtle word
14:21:11 <Taneb> Subtler than Google Translate can handle, evidently
14:21:19 <oerjan> i think you can technically use "hvor", but you sound archaic.
14:22:05 <Taneb> how queer
14:22:49 <Taneb> I, archaic? Forsooth, thine accusatory manner betrays mine heart
14:23:45 <oerjan> although "hvor" is right if you are completing it to a subordinate sentence
14:24:05 <oerjan> i would answer, but i can think only of "prithee"
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14:25:30 <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, there's a similar thing with greek accounts of 'the tin isles' somewhere in the north atlantic that nobody's conclusively identified
14:26:38 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover: my immediate thought is the south-west of England
14:28:15 <Phantom_Hoover> it's an obvious candidate but the classical sources explicitly and separately identify britain
14:28:47 <oerjan> i thought one theory of why the bronze age ended was that they ran out of tin.  so there probably weren't that many tin mines around...
14:29:13 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover: Scilly, perhaps?
14:29:25 <Phantom_Hoover> scilly doesn't have any tin
14:30:05 <Taneb> True
14:30:10 <Taneb> Could have been a trade port
14:30:18 <oerjan> it's just a scilly little island
14:30:36 <Taneb> oerjan: a whole bunch of scilly little islands
14:30:42 <Taneb> There's like loads of them
14:30:51 <oerjan> ooh
14:31:22 <oerjan> oh apparently it's even pronounced that way
14:31:37 <Taneb> And they have found Bronze Age Phoenician artefacts in Cornwall, suggesting there was trade there
14:33:32 <oerjan> it's crazy how complicatedd europe's geography is compared to much of the rest of the world
14:33:37 <oerjan> *-d
14:34:17 <oerjan> like africa, just a big lump.
14:35:07 <oerjan> i guess south-east asia competes.
14:35:27 <fizzie> What I think is a bit strange is how island-deficit many coastlines are, compared to something like https://goo.gl/maps/tEtWcUQJrN52
14:42:48 <int-e> I imagine there's a lot more erosion above the water than below
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15:48:03 <Taneb> Thinking about my bike again
15:48:11 <Taneb> The lock broke so I can't unlock it
15:48:24 <Taneb> It's been in the same place since July I think
15:49:55 <Taneb> Really need to figure out who the right person is to talk to so someone can go with a pair of bolt cutters and rescue it for me
15:50:40 <Taneb> ....what's tromp_ going?
15:53:29 <oerjan> Taneb: http://tromp.github.io/go/legal.html
15:55:24 <Taneb> Oooh
16:02:49 <ais523> Taneb: I'm surprised the bike is still there in that case
16:02:56 <Taneb> ais523: so am I
16:03:03 <Taneb> I check it every now and then
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16:08:16 <quintopia> is it because uk?
16:10:02 <quintopia> "One odd thing in Britain is how people call each other 'mate' instead of taking AR15s and demanding the government cede you public property." -Zach Weinersmith
16:10:50 <ais523> in most parts of the UK, leave a bicycle with no locks, if it's obvious it'll be stolen within the week, if it's not obvious that it's an unlocked bicycle it might last a few months
16:11:13 <ais523> OTOH, if there is an effective lock there, it's unlikely to be stolen (but it might be removed by the owner of the land it's locked on after a while)
16:11:24 <ais523> this is because most bicycle thieves are opportunistic and only go after easy targets
16:15:12 <quintopia> huh...we have more tenacious bike thieves I think.
16:19:30 <mauris> bike thieves are very tenacious here too, scary stuff
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16:20:59 <mauris> pervasive, too; people even got their bikes stolen in the peaceful rich-snobs neighboorhood i went to secondary school in
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16:22:16 <ais523> being in a rich neighbourhood doesn't help much against thieves
16:22:23 <ais523> it can even hurt to some extent (as there's more stuff to steal)
16:22:39 <mauris> mhm, maybe
16:27:00 <Taneb> ais523, my bike is locked
16:27:09 <Taneb> Just the lock won't unlock
16:27:46 <ais523> Taneb: I know
16:27:46 <ais523> I'd have expected it to be removed by the landowner by now
16:28:26 <Taneb> ais523, the landowner in this case is a university
16:28:28 <ais523> actually there's a process for abandoned cars in the UK where the council/police put a notice on it saying that the car's considered abandoned and threatening to remove it after X days
16:28:36 <ais523> but I don't think that applies for bikes
16:28:48 <Taneb> Heading out now, though
16:29:00 <ais523> Taneb: I know our university has lots of warnings about removing bikes, I don't know if it actually does or the warnings are just bluffs
16:30:59 * ais523 tries to work out if there are any other possibiliites
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16:32:40 <mauris> oh yeah my uni tags bikes with little "hi your bike has been here for weeks, we're gonna move it if you don't" things
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17:19:24 <fizzie> Ours did a bike cleaning thing near the student housing about once a year, or maybe every other year.
17:20:15 <fizzie> Adding "we'll move this unless you remove this card" cards first, then a month or so later moving all the flagged ones into some storage somewhere, and then maybe half a year later getting rid of them.
17:20:42 <fizzie> I think in collaboration with some bike shop, who took care of storing the bikes and then doing whatever they wanted with the unclaimed ones.
17:22:20 <fizzie> And we did the same for stuff in the bike storage rooms of our apartment building in Finland at least once or twice.
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17:52:03 <izabera> so you can just put a fake card on other people's bike and they get taken away?
17:54:09 <FireFly> fun!
17:54:18 <FireFly> Well, not for the bike-owner of course
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18:11:47 <fizzie> I guess, if you know when the collection will happen, and manage to put the card on the bike right before so that the owner doesn't see it.
18:11:56 <fizzie> I seriously don't think that has ever been a problem.
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18:50:51 <mroman> rello
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18:53:16 <tswett> Cello.
18:54:08 <tswett> /topic Cello, hurled!
18:57:12 <mroman> http://designs.mroman.ch/
18:57:16 <mroman> I'm in the webdesign business now! :D
18:57:19 <myname> how many binary tries with n leafs are there?
18:57:42 <\oren\> ok, that was too many boosters
18:58:46 <mroman> how many binary trees with n leafs?
18:58:49 <mroman> like?
18:59:00 <mroman> permutations of binary trees?
18:59:10 <\oren\> maybe rotations?
18:59:19 <myname> rotations
19:00:07 <mroman> this is boring
19:00:16 <mroman> how many binary SEARCH trees with n leafs exist
19:00:19 <mroman> that's more interesting
19:00:25 <mroman> because then you can't just take the permutations
19:00:36 <mroman> I think.
19:00:38 <myname> it doesn't apply to my problem, though
19:01:09 <mroman> 1,2,3 doesn't have 6 search trees I guess
19:01:23 <tswett> What distinguishes a binary trie from just a binary tree, for counting purposes?
19:01:31 <mroman> it's either 1,2,3 or 2,1,2
19:01:36 <mroman> *2,1,3
19:01:47 <myname> i meant a tree :(
19:02:03 <mroman> or 3,2,1
19:03:35 <myname> i thought it might be equivalent to valid parantheses with a given depth
19:04:15 <myname> like, abcd could be (((ab)c)d), ((ab)(cd)) or (a(b(cd)))
19:04:50 <myname> at which point the elements could be pretty much ignored
19:06:10 <mroman> well
19:06:18 <mroman> every binary tree has a level order traversal
19:06:28 <mroman> which produces a flat list of elements
19:06:35 <mroman> and you can just permute that list
19:06:41 <mroman> and each will be a valid binary tree.
19:06:55 <\oren\> HA! the astronaut did not die this time!
19:07:29 <\oren\> well, not on liftoff, anyway
19:10:16 <\oren\> splashdown!
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19:49:31 <\oren\> ok as it turns out firing a rocket backward is a perfectly doable method of atmospheric reentry
19:49:46 <ais523> \oren\: some practical rockets work like that actually
19:49:55 <ais523> e.g. the "landing on the Moon" part of the original moon missions
19:50:01 <ais523> (they used a different method to land on the Earth at the end)
19:58:30 <\oren\> oh, right, but I though that wouldn't work in an atmosphere
20:09:09 <MDude> I wonder what the tensile strength of silicon nanotubes is compared to carbon nanotubes.
20:10:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[M×N-Dimensional Brainfuck]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46271 * Qpliu * (+1385) Created page with "M×N-Dimensional Brainfuck is a [[brainfuck]] derivative with an M-dimensional tape and an N-dimensional program.  The initial pointer direction is positive in the first dimen..."
20:10:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46272&oldid=46268 * Qpliu * (+33) /* M */
20:15:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Blo]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46273&oldid=45870 * Qpliu * (+32) Push-down automata
20:29:46 <myname> what is a good source for english sentences without much filtering?
20:30:17 <ais523> myname: you mean, for use for doing statistics on English or the like?
20:30:20 <ais523> you might want to ask fizzie
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20:34:04 <mauris> filtering?
20:35:23 <mauris> the obvious answer is probably project gutenberg! but maybe you could apply for http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/
20:35:37 <myname> like, a normal wikipedia dump has too much noise
20:35:48 <myname> may work
20:35:49 <mauris> i did that once and got rejected (probably because i didn't fill in a phone number though)
20:37:05 <mauris> what do they gain from making their thing "free, but behind some annoying registration/application red tape"
20:37:29 <mauris> do they just wanna save bandwidth and have only people who Really Need It download the BNC
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20:55:00 <tswett> \oren\: isn't atmospheric braking a lot easier, though?
20:55:09 <tswett> The thing about rockets is that they're a terrible way to do space flight.
20:55:29 <tswett> The only reason we use them is that there are currently no alternatives.
20:56:10 <tswett> Rockets are a terrible way to speed up, but we don't have any other way to speed up, so we use rockets to speed up.
20:56:25 <tswett> Rockets are a terrible way to slow down, and we *do* have another way to slow down, so we use the other way instead.
20:58:27 <\oren\> well I haent unlocked a good enough aerobaking system
20:59:20 <\oren\> also, I just launched my first successful unmanned probe
20:59:52 <\oren\> it got into space, but fell back down and crashed right after
21:01:08 <\oren\> I got a lot of science out of it though
21:01:32 <tswett> Neat.
21:01:48 <tswett> I just applied to download the BNC. I gave a phone number.
21:07:35 <Phantom_Hoover> \oren\, are you ksp
21:09:37 <\oren\> yup
21:10:04 <\oren\> this time I think I'll be able to get this stupid sphere into the ocean and retreieve it
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21:14:16 <\oren\> altitide 400000 m
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21:16:35 <\oren\> at what point does "altitude" become "distance from Earth"
21:17:27 <FireFly> Well hey, you can into space which is the important part
21:18:14 <\oren\> ooh, my probe will come down on an ice sheet, I should be able to get some science out of that!
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21:23:02 <fizzie> myname: If you want something easily available, and don't need gigantic amounts, http://corpora2.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/download.html has some moderately sized (e.g. 3M sentences) newspaper text collections, which might be less noisy than the wiki dump.
21:23:11 <fizzie> (Also somewhat pre-filtered webcrawl stuff.)
21:26:06 <fizzie> (And if you want to pay money, there's always LDC.)
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22:42:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MATL]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46274&oldid=46033 * Luis Mendo * (+43) 
22:44:34 <\oren\> Woo7! I'm in orbit!
22:46:16 <hppavilion[1]> I'm finally getting around to installing linux
22:46:21 <hppavilion[1]> Which distro should I use?
22:47:33 <hppavilion[1]> `letters
22:47:49 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: What's that one really complicated character again?
22:47:49 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: letters: not found
22:47:54 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: I need it for a joke
22:48:43 <\oren\> 檎 is pretty complicated
22:49:07 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: No, the one that looks like 6 or 7 circles with dots and such
22:49:37 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: It's an outdated armaic letter (outdated even when armaic wasn't outdated) or something
22:51:04 <hppavilion[1]> Meh. I give up.
22:51:10 <hppavilion[1]> I'm thinking an ubuntu, but there seems to be more than one kind (kubuntu, xubuntu, þubuntu). Which should I use?
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22:56:47 <hppavilion[1]> What if we were to apply the Principals of Eso to business? What if we were to manage to start /marketing/ esolangs as DSLs?
22:59:59 <mauris> hppavilion[1]: plain old ubuntu is a good start!
23:00:09 <hppavilion[1]> mauris: OK
23:00:28 <int-e> if you want plain and old, try debian ;)
23:04:16 <fizzie> Hey, you're dissing my OS.
23:04:40 <int-e> and mine
23:04:51 <mauris> hppavilion[1]: do you mean "multiocular o" btw
23:05:04 <hppavilion[1]> mauris: YES! THERE WE GO!
23:05:17 <int-e> > cat /etc/issue
23:05:17 <int-e> Debian GNU/Linux stretch/sid \n \l
23:05:19 <lambdabot>  Not in scope: ‘etc’Not in scope: ‘issue’
23:05:33 <int-e> err, right, sorry lambdabot!
23:05:35 <int-e> @botsnack
23:05:36 <lambdabot> :)
23:05:55 <int-e> :t cat
23:05:56 <lambdabot> [Doc] -> Doc
23:25:10 <fizzie> `cat /etc/issue
23:25:12 <HackEgo> cat: /etc/issue: No such file or directory
23:25:28 <fizzie> `` lsb_release -a
23:25:29 <HackEgo> No LSB modules are available. \ Distributor ID:Debian \ Description:Debian GNU/Linux \ Release:n/a \ Codename:n/a
23:25:37 <fizzie> Good old Debian n/a.
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23:38:48 <hppavilion[1]> I'm attempting to write a successor to BANCStar xD
23:39:01 <hppavilion[1]> Something that, as a matter of fact, could be used seriously; but something still esoteric
23:39:18 <hppavilion[1]> It's basically a cross between ASM and Bash for now (ASM with flags, basically)
23:39:39 <hppavilion[1]> I'm contemplating adding redirection for an improved programming experience
23:40:45 <hppavilion[1]> It's called BankQL, which is actually "Bank" followed by a meaningless acronym (though it could be "Query Language", but that makes little sense)
23:41:48 <int-e> quirky language
23:42:05 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: Sure
23:42:28 <hppavilion[1]> The idea is that it's nothing like BANCstar, because BANCstar was a bad idea and its creator should be burnt at the stake
23:43:46 <int-e> "All I wanted was job security."
23:44:27 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: Yes, exactly
23:45:07 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: Though apparently, it was never meant to be written in; it was designed for automated generation
23:45:13 <hppavilion[1]> But the tool that generated it sucked