< 1453853026 294253 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is it the same spamming perchance? < 1453853041 125983 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm attempting to make an OS (well, probably not an OS, but something like one) using an augmented BF < 1453853180 65569 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you find other wikis that are hit by the bot? < 1453853540 756051 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read "GG, I was rooting for you" as "GC, I was rooting for you" < 1453854165 320975 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1453854169 454493 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My BF interpreter works! < 1453854184 84469 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn't a huge accomplishment, but still! < 1453854192 305823 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1453854249 771291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Googled for one of the phone numbers. < 1453855516 160014 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:(1.888.451.1608) Quickbooks pro Technical Support numberQuickbooks Help Desk Phone number!!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46314 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+148) 10Created page with "Was hoping this was a real language, love the title :) - ~~~~" < 1453855562 490700 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1453855573 791701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we want to encourage the spammy phone number, sadly. < 1453855625 620080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, I don't want to just be a killjoy and delete that talk page either. < 1453856703 564119 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Unefunge is better ;) < 1453856704 346172 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453856729 660753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rottytooth? Where did they even get that name from? < 1453856771 202833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they copying random people's usernames? < 1453856778 343434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's (presumably) a real user. < 1453856785 422098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on the page contents. < 1453856798 39189 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, misread that line < 1453856803 60596 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry Rottytooth < 1453856816 936457 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mackhill1988 was the spammer < 1453856884 324935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of divided here, because I don't think we want to have that page title on the site, to avoid boosting the Google rankings of that phone number. < 1453856900 8795 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you should get rid of the page < 1453856942 650046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll just delete the talk page as well. (The actual article was already deleted.) < 1453857021 659529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:(1.888.451.1608) Quickbooks pro Technical Support numberQuickbooks Help Desk Phone number!!10]]": Let's try not to advertise this phone number even in titles. < 1453857320 718420 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :im calling them < 1453857330 480146 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-54-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453857348 123678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And asking for help with QuickBooks? < 1453857357 848122 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just rings over and over, no answer < 1453857399 174239 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to prank them < 1453857442 667087 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :by pretending to be the CSIS < 1453857496 431787 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe play a rickroll into the phone < 1453857623 544105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are still some spammer-looking hits in the access log; one sequnce first to /wiki/[one of the deleted spam pages] -> / -> /wiki/Main_Page -> user creation page -> weird GET request of the user creation form action="" URL, even though it's a POST form, I don't know what's up with that. < 1453857671 533277 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a weird email from my aunt, I assume my aunt didn't actually send it. How can I determine if it came from her account (in which case I should warn her?) or elsewhere? < 1453857687 286904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe that's just part of a redirect of the account creation page, and not the actual submit target. < 1453857699 494476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Sometimes you can tell from the Received: headers. < 1453857714 585316 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what am I looking for? < 1453857737 524791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the bottom-most one would be the first email server the message went through. < 1453857790 972776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try guesstimating whether that looks plausible for whatever sort of email-sending thing your aunt would be using. (E.g. if it's a webmail account, those usually have standard outgoing-mail servers things go through.) < 1453857801 945260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could just compare it to a known-good message's chain of headers. < 1453857923 203319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some of them might be fake, though I'm not sure how popular that is.) < 1453857924 684957 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the qikbuks tek suprt numbers get answers < 1453857932 27317 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it really did come from her account < 1453857935 394464 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me email her < 1453857962 973852 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jqbjeodglvbackoe JOIN :#esoteric < 1453857983 709087 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i called all of them, no anser and no nswering machine, so I couldn't leave them a rickroll either < 1453858136 968665 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doens't make any sense either, i thought they were plastering these numbers places so people will call them?!! < 1453858170 649841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they're overwhelmed with clients. < 1453858261 683717 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually though that means you'll be stuck waiting, not simply have no answer < 1453858438 518654 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm drawing runic characters and it seems that there are not much resources on the (hopefully) complete list of known variations to each letters < 1453858485 692602 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew the Unicode encoding of runic characters is based on the "idealized" glyphs modulo accidental duplication without a shared history < 1453858521 968333 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it might be sensible to think about the variation selectors to select a particular variant of each letter, while there are not < 1453859281 597090 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453859697 958988 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily! We're having a spam problem (or, we were) < 1453859732 317328 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. spam musubi? grilled spam? spam, bok choi, eggs and tomato ramen? < 1453859897 789062 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Raw spam < 1453859920 928947 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so an SOS. < 1453859923 907135 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pure, unadulterated spam < 1453859948 876783 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah woah woah. that shit's toxic, y'know. < 1453859963 180218 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's... why it was a problem < 1453860011 824764 :AlexR42!~textual@145.255.21.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453860058 470088 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome AlexR42 < 1453860077 486558 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. HackEgo's still stuck, I see... < 1453860079 33747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07AlexR42: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1453860080 817855 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1453860097 684510 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and did it you were have had it solved, right? < 1453860165 363497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just disabled new account creation for now. < 1453860174 922511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the only thing that worked. < 1453860246 592712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even tried changing the CAPTCHA to one that generates a (partially) random brainfuck program and asks for its output, and they went through that as well. < 1453860309 933178 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Whoa < 1453860517 903274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless that was a case of using an account creation page fetched earlier, that just happened to go through soon after I enabled the bf CAPTCHA. It's a shame there's no CAPTCHA answer log. I'll probably retry it tomorrow or so when I'll be around to monitor things. < 1453860532 853943 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should have asked it to run them instead < 1453860936 562681 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam and bots solving brainfuck problems. there's something deeply wrong somewhere. < 1453861181 581507 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I see. I copied my runes off a picture of a runic manuscript from wikipedia < 1453861196 605042 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some of them anyway < 1453861304 27241 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. fonting? < 1453861492 656385 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bots solving brainfuck problems so quickly would suggest either other sites using them for captchas, or. bots just being that adaptable. < 1453861508 728731 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the spammers being human, in which case I suppose they'd have seen a lot of brainfuck by now. < 1453861528 227019 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that there are not many websites using BF as CAPTCHAs < 1453861572 136897 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so one would think bots wouldn't be programmed to work around them. < 1453861598 741346 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is exactly my point. < 1453861675 396552 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this page blank for anyone else or just me (warning: Wikia) http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Edith_Keeler < 1453861690 545795 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it's weird, clicking Edit shows content < 1453861751 677806 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1453861756 345189 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a similar problem on a Wikipedia page once. < 1453861770 470416 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are weird things floating around between the interwebs. fleeting entities waving tendrils from emergent dimensions. always out of reach, staying in the corners of our hindsights. < 1453861772 63071 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly, the last edit was supposedly by a bot which just un-blanked it. < 1453861781 678598 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DISK CHICKEN < 1453861827 33157 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try purging < 1453861868 12214 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That worked < 1453862138 407295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the other wikis affected by the spam we got (KDE community, travis-ci, Wesnoth, DreamHost, OpenStreetMap, some Linux forum, etc.) it seemed like a very technically oriented spamming. < 1453862692 673241 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody should write a story about mathematics manifested in the real world < 1453862707 352676 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, a world where Banach-Tarski is a practical thing used in production < 1453862831 706490 :AlexR42!~textual@145.255.21.165 QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1453862841 124671 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where I can use the Principal of Explosion to derive your mom's phone number < 1453862845 233824 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be good for cannonball production < 1453862853 481366 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps just one person has this power < 1453863596 833021 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453863771 951350 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453863991 796731 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453864586 331717 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453865124 719246 :mihow!~mihow@207-170-207-189.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453866469 965471 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453867068 72977 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, tcrf combats spam by checking if port 80/8080 is open on the host trying to register, which seems to catch a lot of bots (the idea is that it's likely to be an open proxy if it has one of those ports open) < 1453867101 283384 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess given the target audience for an esolang wiki it's possible that would yield some false positives... < 1453868844 976674 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1453868913 556044 :mihow!~mihow@207-170-207-189.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1453869299 951146 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453870545 751098 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453871379 7289 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made an HTOVL plane in KSP! < 1453871412 99285 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vertical landing is done using parachutes carefully balanced < 1453871498 736826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453871577 90996 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453871743 516536 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about all of that < 1453871820 676100 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1453871840 741942 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453871853 712822 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453872545 533799 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1453872866 474221 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1453875458 682849 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1453876425 495848 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1453876486 487533 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453876711 371633 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453876863 697054 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a bare-metal python implementation xD < 1453879129 690129 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453879279 286482 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453879280 354849 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Gotta go < 1453879508 45924 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1453879514 32308 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hppavilion[2] now, as it turns out < 1453879582 415847 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[aleph_0] < 1453879612 871754 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that escalated quickly < 1453880266 364216 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: hppavilion[metafinity] < 1453880297 971222 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type error. < 1453880362 996425 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: metafinity, if you're curious, is a number greater than any SURreal number < 1453884394 15964 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453884552 728541 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453885466 918755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453886230 841627 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453887020 253688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1453888036 645070 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f90b:ac04:9b43:1dda JOIN :#esoteric < 1453889708 463418 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnird < 1453889802 458738 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1453889813 14376 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like time to add a new anti-spam question :) < 1453889842 129168 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you enable the captcha for every login? < 1453889846 336410 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of just failed attempts? < 1453889867 571155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? It's enabled for account creation. How would enabling it for login help? < 1453889873 726992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also adding a new question didn't help at all. < 1453889881 381486 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I didn't know it was enabled for account creation. < 1453889895 192510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding a dynamic one that generates a (partially) random brainfuck program and asks for its output did not help either. < 1453889917 511210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure they had real people solving it. < 1453889943 416500 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you can't do shit against human spammers :) < 1453889960 163043 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no adequate are you a human spammer test yet < 1453890049 731225 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1453890054 936045 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not with more effort :) < 1453890086 749326 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be kinda overkill < 1453890104 804759 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like account activation) < 1453890106 239062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's still a new hit coming to the new user creation page every 1-5 minutes, and I doubt these are legit new users, because normally we've got at most one new user per day. < 1453890183 408494 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, that's pretty normal. < 1453890206 442476 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest log file on my vServer was failed ssh attempts :D < 1453890362 493776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were a lot of other "nerd" wikis (KDE community wiki, the Jenkins CI system, DreamHost webhosting, Wesnoth, ...) hit by the same spam. < 1453890463 123080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that's just Google sorting stuff so that it's relevant for me, in which case that might tell more about me than the spammers. :) < 1453890622 771899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453890627 773195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh at all the wiki spam < 1453890641 327850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is all the recent spam cleared or do I need to clear it? < 1453890641 547812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recap: < 1453890643 737898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:17 Also adding a new question didn't help at all. < 1453890645 464486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:18 Adding a dynamic one that generates a (partially) random brainfuck program and asks for its output did not help either. < 1453890648 613140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:18 I'm pretty sure they had real people solving it. < 1453890649 188779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way I am adding an abuse filter rule < 1453890665 623879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's real people too; they're hitting other wikis as well < 1453890667 257692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deleted all I saw in recent changes, at least. < 1453890713 254077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1453891855 785954 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1453891874 601215 :jaboja!~jaboja@user-188-33-136-148.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1453892138 357891 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453893647 736770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453893656 303821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that < 1453893668 763661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on the abuse filter now < 1453893756 587418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that spammer uses a bunch of different numbers < 1453894132 510216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/610]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/6/diff/prev/36]]) < 1453894158 838186 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the conditions in C on casting a larger integer type into a smaller one? < 1453894228 252572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: if both are unsigned, the value is reduced modulo the max of the smaller one + 1; if both are signed, the value must fit in the smaller type or it's undefined behaviour; not sure about mixed signedness < 1453894255 819930 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s almost what I expected. Maybe I’m getting better at C logic. < 1453894309 408162 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do the common compilers tend to do with signed ints that don’t fit? < 1453894385 302546 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just truncate the bits? < 1453894423 731580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: truncate the bits, and often delete any codepaths that would only run if the number was out of range < 1453894450 771642 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1453894476 356443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh, turns out there's a different spambot attacking us too but it got caught in the existing filters < 1453894533 355620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's no pattern in the spammer IPs < 1453894542 334623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory is that it's posting from compromised machines < 1453894579 528390 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453894586 163823 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Coding a representation of a subset of C integer types and want the casting to work right. I guess I still need to look up casting between signednesses …) < 1453894586 382675 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453894603 917874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, one of them was posting from AWS < 1453894613 12503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's worth sending an abuse report for that < 1453894659 259759 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is it the case that bitwise operators are undefined on signed integers? < 1453894671 251519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I don't think so, but I'm not sure < 1453894684 335738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reasonably sure they work on positive numbers, at least < 1453894686 897033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about negative ones < 1453894706 743693 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be. < 1453894727 533901 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, what about prefix - on unsigned? < 1453894741 291918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix - on unsigned works modulo maximum value + 1 < 1453894747 875356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it's basically just ~ with an offset of 1 < 1453894868 734650 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. I had so far decided to make it a type error, maybe I should put it in then. < 1453895055 336161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you're trying to do some sort of certified-C compiler? < 1453895061 646200 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1453895120 834223 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m doing some sort of attempt to improve an FFI. < 1453895180 432781 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: gcc might just optimize the code away :p < 1453895302 363762 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which can only pass int and fixed-size types. So you have to look up what size other things are and use the fixed-size types. So my plan is to read out what the size is on the current system and define an appropriate type alias mapping to one instance of this type I’m defining. < 1453895448 605064 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. generate something like “SizeT : Type; SizeT = Int' Unsigned IT64” on my home system. < 1453896151 600238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There was another cloud provider in the list when I was looking. < 1453896171 928151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means that compromised servers is the most likely source < 1453896182 148635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the spammers were renting the servers themselves they wouldn't be on such a range of providers < 1453896314 447202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pedantic nit: it's not "~ with an offset of 1" on a platform that doesn't use two's-complement. < 1453896358 976655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because ~ actually works in terms of bits of the representation, while the modulo for - works in terms of the value. < 1453896376 540432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1453896380 407348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsigned, right, right. < 1453896389 703926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind then. < 1453896478 581696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, unsigned < 1453896485 391860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's a good point < 1453896494 977698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is defined on signed numbers but works on individual bits < 1453896547 336135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so on sign-magnitude, ~65530 is -5 < 1453896998 645642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1453897111 631004 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: VAPOUR CHICKEN < 1453897302 775880 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1453897651 775827 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, RIP Minsky :( < 1453898514 528434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453898942 469300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I think there's an answer to how MTGO would deal with a Turing machine construction (that didn't terminate very quickly): https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/42ri7z/weirdest_rules_interaction/czcqx2b < 1453898948 952563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's its behavour on a trivial infinite loop < 1453898961 770665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's nothing about it that would vary for large finite loops < 1453899835 532076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1453900176 767118 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-54-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1453900869 310139 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1453900892 230061 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just made a 1/8 glider emitter in game of life < 1453900907 185752 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :It consists of four Gosper Glider Guns < 1453901013 558487 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses block synth < 1453901026 821015 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two gliders collide to make a block < 1453901050 591696 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later, two gliders collide with a newborn block and only 1 escapes < 1453902282 744746 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1453902318 831719 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-54-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453902364 979351 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1453902436 184874 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FreeFull oerjan: Can you show it diverges for k > 1? <-- after proper rest and some thought: no because it's not actually true < 1453902437 81597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1453902445 345787 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (exp (-1)) < 1453902447 911985 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.444667861009766 < 1453902468 393562 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i believe adu misremembered his favorite number < 1453902481 839437 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the above is the actual boundary. < 1453902570 602547 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50 $ iterate (1.44**) 1 < 1453902572 702526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2.393302963365745,2.3933676777427575,2.3934241562665295,2.393473448159275,2... < 1453902583 323482 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 100 $ iterate (1.44**) 1 < 1453902585 501039 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2.393811180503848,2.3938112526658517,2.3938113156551126,2.393811370637608,2... < 1453902592 268170 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm slow < 1453902596 659728 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 100 $ iterate (1.45**) 1 < 1453902599 740251 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Infinity,Infinity,Infinity,Infinity,Infinity,Infinity,Infinity,Infinity,Inf... < 1453903969 140331 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1453904052 852062 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] Why don't we adapt the pages to be an esolang? <-- been there, done that, see https://esolangs.org/wiki/Real_Fast_Nora%27s_Hair_Salon_3:_Shear_Disaster_Download < 1453904053 639903 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1453904058 619636 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ping < 1453904121 869851 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pong < 1453904214 563094 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, it converges for k>1 too? < 1453904225 383170 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1453904225 696044 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to exp(exp(-1)) < 1453904245 181249 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i conclude that's the number adu actually meant < 1453904265 304439 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally, for the boundary number, the fixpoint is e) < 1453904290 907819 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp(exp(-1)) < 1453904293 86901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.444667861009766 < 1453904300 361683 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp(exp(-1)) ** exp 1 < 1453904302 507221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.7182818284590446 < 1453904399 712541 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1453904469 165246 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp 1 < 1453904470 775987 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.718281828459045 < 1453904475 715583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453904484 446651 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, so ** is the "forget everything" operator < 1453904501 775544 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes no genuine new users were caught in the block frenzy yesterdary < 1453904503 968801 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y < 1453904530 315441 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me like some of them didn't get around to spamming first. or maybe they were just bot deleted. < 1453904545 612310 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 ** 8 < 1453904548 164635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 256.0 < 1453904555 972769 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: NOPE < 1453904563 15483 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1453904574 81611 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was close tho < 1453904577 947332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1453904588 263723 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponentially close < 1453904623 587935 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait duh < 1453904634 376848 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :page creations don't show up when the page has been deleted < 1453904754 974069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there were two spambots in a spamming frenzy < 1453904768 359633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one of them got caught in our existing filters < 1453904780 431371 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1453904780 650371 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02User:Quick42010]]": content was: "Spambot" (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/151.226.165.25|151.226.165.25]]") < 1453904798 359620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was spamming from an IP, not using a username < 1453904805 371768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog is public < 1453904812 147255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to block the IP in question so that it stops spamming the abuse log :-P < 1453904826 726673 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1453904840 815147 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it'd only move then < 1453904854 295646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough it's editing a different IP's userpage < 1453904867 759591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, that depends on if it has any awareness it's been blocked < 1453904875 121862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly doesn't seem to have much awareness that it's hitting the spam filter < 1453904895 9088 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean you never got an actual working CAPTCHA? < 1453904960 120110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did; however some of the spambots use human captcha-solvers < 1453904978 139330 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instant ones? < 1453904982 134258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the recent phone number spammer solved three entirely different captchas in quick succession < 1453904989 828069 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1453904993 736411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either they have strong AI or there's a human involved < 1453904997 905831 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... we have a 6th filter now. < 1453905021 276415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hits yet, but hopefully it'll help < 1453905028 312409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also no automatic blocks, it just prevents the action < 1453905037 508910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't realize the filters were publicly viewable < 1453905040 764430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can move to automatic blocks if there's signs that people are manually editing the text to get around them < 1453905042 785548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: they don't have to be < 1453905060 54358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm following Wikipedia's rule of "make them public unless there's a good reason not to" < 1453905088 128501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every indication is that the spammers are solving the captchas by hand, but not using human intelligence in the text to post < 1453905137 551153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... yesterday's wave looked like manual account creation followed by automated page creations. < 1453905225 689153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested in how they pick their usernames < 1453905244 639505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are a few "ais523" spambots because a spambot had the bright idea of copying usernames from Wikipedia < 1453905877 598790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1453906528 363046 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1453906528 620072 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Changing host < 1453906528 620166 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453906805 51894 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453907504 406310 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1453907516 670913 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Quick420 even stated on his User:Quick420 that he's a Spambot < 1453907518 509772 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how nice of him. < 1453907580 186223 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that wasn't him stating it, just someone here with bad willpower hth < 1453907893 691501 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.205 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1453908066 689472 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1453908291 394855 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was eligible to vote in the Arbitrary Committee election on Wikipedia. I feel like I shouldn't have been, especially since I barely jknew that was a thing < 1453908540 731574 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-54-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1453908571 729295 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being a longtime user not required < 1453908611 496366 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder if maybe a certain distribution, at least some more recent than others, makes more sense < 1453908790 687854 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1453909423 721264 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is interesting: https://www.google.com/?q=misdirection < 1453909448 13637 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first box has information about the performance magic meaning, but the image is for the MtG card < 1453909558 564875 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, I'm now wondering if it's possible to become immune to misdirection < 1453910033 186264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I tried out a "generate a (partially) random brainfuck program, ask for its output" CAPTCHA, and even that didn't help. < 1453910055 407317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And I refuse to believe that's sufficiently common for bots to cope with it within 5 minutes of its introduction. < 1453910132 686034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though since the CAPTCHA q and a are both generated and stored at the new-user form creation time, IIUC, it could have theoretically been a page fetched earlier and submitted later.) < 1453910169 358914 :jaboja!~jaboja@user-188-33-136-148.play-internet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453910431 742511 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw in the logs < 1453910449 516805 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway -> < 1453910451 114440 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1453911615 257890 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1453911686 486055 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453911864 814378 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric < 1453913272 176918 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/42x2b4/the_use_of_antibiotics_in_young_children_may/ < 1453913303 794241 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was given an antibiotic as a kid, and seemed to have low weight, not high way. But I'm an anecdote. < 1453913373 292613 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I just thought of something < 1453913376 929615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you get them with any probiotics? < 1453913381 886148 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, no idea < 1453913422 114057 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to minimize people's use of antibiotics to when they're absolutely essential. You know what's limited to that too, chemo. So we need to call antibiotics chemotherapy or something. < 1453913457 167447 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lot of the stuff antibiotics can easily treat would be about as scary as cancer before antibiotics exist < 1453913568 865370 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also on the flipside, people who are taking antibiotics to treat something shouldn't stop just because they are starting to feel better. You need to make sure to actually kill all the bad bacteria, or they will come back, in a more resistant form < 1453913635 35432 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's an analogue of that in chemo, is there? < 1453913657 980574 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although we don't want to scare people into stopping antibiotics, yeah' < 1453913721 451668 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You definitely don't want people doing shit like taking antibiotics for a viral infection though < 1453913821 970967 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we knew then what we know now about antibiotic abuse, do you think the discovers of antibiotics would be able to keep things a bit saner somehow? < 1453913956 457077 :Reece`!~Reece@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453914195 649718 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f90b:ac04:9b43:1dda QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453914677 687949 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there is an analogue of that: For both antibiotics and chemotherapy, you FOLLOW THE DOCTOR'S ORDERS (or potentially get other DOCTOR opinions) < 1453914720 659500 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't walk out of a chemo session because it hurts too much, you don't quit antibiotics because you're feeling better < 1453914761 946681 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I guess I don't know much about chemo, hmm < 1453914845 679235 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, when is FOLLOW THE DOCTOR's ORDERS ever actually contraindicated? < 1453914884 258891 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really been consistent with my own meds >.>, but in my case it might be less severe I hope < 1453915121 699523 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jqbjeodglvbackoe QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1453915846 499820 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453916305 304611 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453916362 905413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1453916581 281338 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I just delirumed (or maybe it's not delerium anymore?) a game that could exist. Not to make money off of though < 1453916588 669595 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More of a prank game < 1453916665 907534 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dog wants dog treat. User looks at a 3D hex-cylinder thing. But there's no dog treat. A timer tells the user this at 2 minutes, 3 minutes, 5 minutes, an hour, two hours (or something like that) < 1453916747 995163 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a fake news site generator that's like "Who's the best dog? $YOURDOG is" except somehow it's just the dog's name in a bowl and for some reason it's in 3D. It's a top 3 and the other 2 are question marks like the page isn't loading, the bottom two are sort of planes curved inward a bit < 1453916767 562257 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I am delirious: I thought describing that would be interesting to anybody < 1453917684 926712 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1453920328 60529 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453921858 578495 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Quit: Hugs~ <3 < 1453921965 398255 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453922210 661895 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1453922237 741033 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453922367 514215 :Lymia!lymia@himawari.lymiahugs.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1453922870 153504 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1453923072 763362 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1453923116 760539 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1453923761 803432 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-20-249.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1453923913 587294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1453925181 762598 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453925532 362452 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453925539 187944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453925692 141653 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1453925844 405268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1453926769 215020 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.3 < 1453926900 712993 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1453927586 471960 :Reece`!~Reece@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453928155 342283 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1453928207 768152 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1453930274 833757 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://az754404.vo.msecnd.net/public/vscode_preview.mp4 official microsoft video < 1453930280 256538 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude uses a mac < 1453930738 185081 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm that happened sooner than I expected... a computer program beating a professional Go player... < 1453930755 454450 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :beginner's luck < 1453930987 583341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 games? < 1453931055 717415 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1453931174 360126 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: xD < 1453931204 268220 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's probably because macs are supposedly better for programming, and the video should appeal to programmers, not users < 1453931226 241654 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1453931285 99778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Is this re our (well, DeepMind just barely counts as Google, but still) thing? < 1453931295 457732 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1453931307 113081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, you're part of DeepMind? < 1453931317 165873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, that's why I added the disclaimer. < 1453931321 704977 :Lymia!lymia@himawari.lymiahugs.com QUIT :Quit: Hugs~ <3 < 1453931348 290191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were I could've used an unqualified "our". < 1453931366 12439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see the context. < 1453931371 589610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've listened to a talk by a DeepMind guy, does that count?) < 1453931373 532186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might've meant that Google didn't count as "our". < 1453931378 264192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, yes. < 1453931392 605805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mirror image. < 1453931393 795370 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1453931404 643546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a DeepMind talk around the time Google bought them. < 1453931411 366224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had fancy demos. < 1453931435 922222 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1453931442 535469 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking on Lee Sedol next is couragous, if the ratings on http://googleresearch.blogspot.co.at/2016/01/alphago-mastering-ancient-game-of-go.html and on http://www.goratings.org/ are comparable (which I believe they are) < 1453931443 378780 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1453931467 316711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least fan hui's rating is a good match) < 1453931851 782051 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1453932804 396954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll verify they're actually breaking the BF captcha by enabling it for a second, now that I'm watching. < 1453933145 69053 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping 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20s ago: Why don't we adapt the pages to be an esolang? <-- been there, done that, see https://esolangs.org/wiki/Real_Fast_Nora%27s_Hair_Salon_3:_Shear_Disaster_Download < 1453937035 495056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Oh, I was wondering about that page's title... < 1453937035 984162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1453937132 11342 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Oh, that appears to have been created initially by Taneb. Or was the original page deleted or something? < 1453937132 495815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1453937157 83375 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see an esolang based on phone numbers xD < 1453937174 569640 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a 555 produces a compiler error >:) < 1453937242 635636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The name was actually picked from web server logs. < 1453937248 43895 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma design that. Phony. < 1453937251 536192 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah < 1453937379 170786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-08-18 17:10:53 For some reason, Google has tried to request http://esolangs.org/wiki/Real_Fast_Nora's_Hair_Salon_3:_Shear_Disaster_Download. < 1453937382 143498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-23 22:23:11 I've got a brilliant esolang 2012-03-23 22:23:15 I just need a name < 1453937385 131464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-23 22:24:42 taneb: Real Fast Nora’s Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1453937404 308702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I half-remember that < 1453937439 850274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, the first line was 2012-03-18. This wasn't a case of time travel. < 1453937443 359893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botched while copying. < 1453937474 241284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is an excellent name. < 1453937479 723269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I could just leave the BF captcha in place; it's been over an hour with no new registrations. < 1453937500 262224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm. < 1453937513 957857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the spam originally meant to indicate that the download was real and fast. < 1453937519 379305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to a fake download. < 1453937526 843798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always read it in the sense of "really fast". < 1453937544 316358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer that interpretation so I'm going to continue using it. < 1453937597 709373 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I also interpret as "really fast" < 1453937652 255689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that interpretation is real cool < 1453937657 706214 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1453937695 30500 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1453937695 466435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 10m 59s ago: Oh, I was wondering about that page's title... < 1453937695 685219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 9m 22s ago: Oh, that appears to have been created initially by Taneb. Or was the original page deleted or something? < 1453937705 593693 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yeah it was deleted < 1453937714 957798 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1453937722 972691 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I was told < 1453937737 103988 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I was told it was because Google requested that page for an unknown reason < 1453937825 753678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when the first occurrence of the phrase "Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon" on the Internet was. < 1453937858 329825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shame I don't have a tool for finding out. < 1453937880 220611 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spam page was created on 26 May 2011 and deleted by ais523 the same day. < 1453937926 918001 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb recreated it on 23 March 2012. < 1453938388 333778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And elliott mentioned Google tried to fetch it on 18 March 2012. < 1453938412 640067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably due to it being in the index from the time the spam existed. < 1453938526 228882 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1453938567 916211 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i just had a thought < 1453938602 776876 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if these spammers, as you mentioned, ask search engines to crawl the created pages immediately... < 1453938629 131968 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way for the site owner to disable such unauthorized requests < 1453938776 650717 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1453939054 116991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Google Webmaster Tools can do some sort of operations related to indexing. < 1453939082 897850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including manually removing URLs. < 1453939096 648150 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think I'll verify they're actually breaking the BF captcha by enabling it for a second, now that I'm watching. <-- did you verify that anyone was _trying_ to register in that period? < 1453939105 925307 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the spammers are just resting < 1453939124 797513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's been still steady flow on the user signup page. I didn't explicitly count attempts. < 1453939130 831927 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1453939168 664063 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, they're not really breaking the bf captcha then? < 1453939172 237578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone clicks on the "create account" from Main Page about every 5-15 minutes.