< 1455495032 137464 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run :(){ :|:& };: < 1455495033 802986 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455495369 655936 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455495821 338551 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uhm < 1455495824 314871 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid question < 1455495834 375111 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you implement a language < 1455495861 629850 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you don't generate a tree with your parser < 1455495869 169731 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only a list of instructions < 1455495882 49162 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then your static analysis sucks < 1455495885 489377 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1455495898 436178 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you played mage knight? < 1455495943 384187 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i want to convert if (a) { b; c; }; d to if (!a) goto d; { b; c; }; d < 1455495958 37665 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make sense? < 1455496084 405090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of, I think a lot of old compilers worked like that, just reading and outputting assembly on the fly < 1455496139 231313 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok great < 1455496155 234236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can probably make something more readable easier by parsing and working with a tree < 1455496169 956791 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :more readable than assembly?! < 1455496176 202853 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this whichcraft < 1455496187 253829 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added an extra h didn't i? < 1455496207 779756 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it was just an idea < 1455496214 246772 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant your implementation would be more readable < 1455496575 672386 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1455496905 790699 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :diginet: I LIKE that conspiracy < 1455496962 970870 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It was proven in the 1800s that angle trisection is like doubling the cube or squaring the circle < 1455496982 698301 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: In fact, angle trisection is one of the 3 classic unsolvable problems, just like those other two < 1455497001 461556 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Though you can do it if you use paper folding instead of ruler/compass as your primitive < 1455497131 777068 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/@wilshipley/the-absolutely-true-story-of-a-real-programmer-who-never-learned-c-210e43a1498b < 1455497154 885758 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Also, you forgot the t < 1455497268 600140 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1455497295 325904 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: That's amazing. < 1455497311 537515 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I actually learned of Sam Ritchie from that post < 1455497316 970724 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. http://www.wired.com/2013/11/twitter-summingbird/ < 1455497326 896661 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Who's Sam Ritchie, OOC? < 1455497333 16083 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ^ < 1455497371 604219 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Also, all one need do to square the circle is construct a length equal to sqrt(pi) relative to another length defined as length 1. hth. < 1455497408 414634 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Ah. < 1455497419 239954 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually the story is (likely to be) true < 1455497429 743828 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of neat trick < 1455497497 269338 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Is C awful, or just C++? < 1455497499 477814 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery C < 1455497504 86127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1455497506 592681 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ^ < 1455497512 131230 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C < 1455497515 209004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1455497520 600867 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C++ < 1455497521 467789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1455497556 937132 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized that this while (cond) body; < 1455497564 294406 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be converted to this if (!cond) goto out; top: body; if (cond) goto top; out: ; < 1455497572 501184 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than this top: if (!cond) goto out; body; goto top; out: ; < 1455497624 477598 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ERROR: HALTING PROBLEM < 1455497629 227141 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1455497630 464116 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "C is the language of humans, and C++ is the language of youkai." < 1455497632 484682 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1455497633 467045 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uguu.org/nfo_meikaigumi.html < 1455497637 798728 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: JK < 1455497641 748804 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rowling) < 1455497673 633644 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I definitely would have expected the creator of a language to learn it and study it. < 1455497686 325545 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yeah, probably < 1455497695 318125 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Though him not having done that explains a lot... < 1455497707 852338 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... < 1455497738 623918 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1455497746 663284 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's likely that C fulfills its particular niche better than any other language... or, at least, any other language that's commonly used. < 1455497761 324309 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best way to encrypt a message: Transmit a fractran program that outputs the ASCII values of your message < 1455497768 406952 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one would ever suspect that < 1455497771 944217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people dislike C and C++, although I happen to like C, I much prefer C over C++ < 1455497776 83253 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is widely hated, but it also fills its niche pretty well. < 1455497777 411966 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: True, true < 1455497802 847621 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A person could argue that Rust does what C++ does, better than C++ does it. < 1455497808 852442 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Rust is still in its childhood. < 1455497810 644573 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rust < 1455497811 983151 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is C++ as designed by the makers of Haskell. < 1455497819 498157 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: And what about C⁂? < 1455497821 628560 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/rust < 1455497826 350764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett shachaf tswett < 1455497829 960641 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you mean... C#? < 1455497840 602315 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, C⁂ < 1455497847 342325 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh wait, that's still in the future < 1455497849 147962 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srry < 1455497851 220301 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1455497856 925957 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to tell you about C# anyway. < 1455497874 598320 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting what's already happened and what is yet to come < 1455497877 151346 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say C# is pretty much nothing like C and C++. It's more similar to, say, Python. < 1455497895 31290 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because I live in complex time, which isn't well-ordered) < 1455497901 379435 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⁂ < 1455497902 693393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2042 ASTERISM] < 1455497910 486705 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1455497912 466499 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing has a _name_ ? < 1455497922 924098 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It was recommended to me as S(#) < 1455497935 902145 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ = S('') < 1455497937 379766 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: did you expect it to be called TRIANGULAR ARRANGEMENT OF ASTERISKS? < 1455497941 308319 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :# = S('++') < 1455497947 194523 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁂ = S('#') < 1455497955 321480 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how do you arrive at that conclusion? < 1455497968 569521 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It was recommended by someone. Probably shachaf. < 1455497995 733242 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, S('++') could also be "objective-" < 1455498000 154345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1455498002 929797 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really just in name at this point though < 1455498017 697208 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :# languages are nothing like their namewise predecessors < 1455498031 536066 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, F# is nothing like F and F++. < 1455498033 899179 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, I'd like to see a low-level (C-level, that is) language called F < 1455498038 759085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, Objective-C at least is a strict superset of C, meaning that all C codes can be used. < 1455498041 189030 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, exactly < 1455498051 639274 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: True, true < 1455498074 137027 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Mostly because F# currently exists while F and F++ do not, LTIC < 1455498093 577308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it has that advantage, that if something is using/requiring Objective-C then you can still use a C code without needing a modification < 1455498104 579786 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah < 1455498111 494168 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Swift is good, I've heard < 1455498119 781455 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455498127 103484 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot < 1455498130 67343 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, the only devs I know IRL are apple geeks who do a lot of Unity < 1455498138 584917 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume: Been here before? < 1455498140 98993 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, Microsoft Access is the future of computing. < 1455498144 244458 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume: Or are you new? < 1455498157 784450 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] : same to lifthrasiir :) < 1455498170 494492 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume: ? < 1455498185 965832 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh I meant I AM lifthrasiir < 1455498189 980440 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume: Are you lifthrasiir with an alt ni- ah < 1455498195 23815 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`notrelcome Yurume < 1455498195 973740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: notrelcome: not found < 1455498206 715561 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NS INFO commands is not saying such thing? < 1455498207 193031 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is another (mobile) client I'm using < 1455498216 779497 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1455498252 204672 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend runs an app with built-in IRC bouncer which I frequently use < 1455498266 611929 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By which I mean: Microsoft Access is a sort of rapid application development tool. I imagine "the future of programming" as combining the ease-of-use of something like Access with the flexibility of "real", text-based programming.) < 1455498275 776202 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does not have a way to identify the nick < 1455498325 755592 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What's access? < 1455498339 838594 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh, right, the DB < 1455498347 183299 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My grandpa LOVES Office) < 1455498378 4846 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ever tried game maker? < 1455498395 818185 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION started programming with game maker < 1455498404 894876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used Microsoft Office and Microsoft Access before; I happen to prefer SQLite for the databases, it is better system. < 1455498415 851853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for typing formatted documents, I use TeX. < 1455498431 332627 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit who was it linked "the internet is for porn" now i've got that song on my brain < 1455498448 256472 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, I agree < 1455498453 805163 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet is for pom < 1455498461 771537 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The internet is for Kerning < 1455498478 831489 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pom and keming < 1455498482 93377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The internet is for everything. However many thing can done even without internet too, often better without use of internet, but internet is good too < 1455498493 206819 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? internet < 1455498494 228193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455498497 741685 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the internet < 1455498498 990786 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455498499 133069 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GASP < 1455498508 454612 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVE FAAAAAAAAAAAAILED US < 1455498516 638954 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455498523 384197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does `learn handle 'the'? < 1455498531 473735 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It does not < 1455498536 794911 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, it does < 1455498537 570651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1455498544 395628 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoopse, olsner < 1455498546 323327 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whoops < 1455498552 310508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The internet is for everything. However many thing can done even without internet too, often better without use of internet, but internet is good too. < 1455498556 89236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'internet': The internet is for everything. However many thing can done even without internet too, often better without use of internet, but internet is good too. < 1455498558 664776 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It ignores `the < 1455498584 747225 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn_append internet/Except porn. < 1455498587 195783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'internet': The internet is for everything. However many thing can done even without internet too, often better without use of internet, but internet is good too. Except porn. < 1455498595 83203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1455498599 998102 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it should've been a quote of zzo38, but it made so much sense encylopedically < 1455498606 554231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1455498620 674047 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: We have `tomfoolery for ACCURATE messages. < 1455498621 553166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What can be done better without use of internet? < 1455498625 775242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used Game Maker as well but no longer do, it isn't as good as other program, because for one thing is not Free software, and some other problems too. However you can look at my game if you want to, I included the source file so that you can try to examine it with whatever program you want to < 1455498636 600329 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat le/rn < 1455498637 907608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "Learned «$key»" < 1455498663 49029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, such as stuff that isn't on computer (for example if you want to write it by hand), or to run local computations and files on your computer. < 1455498666 12796 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Also, a LOT of people like to obfuscate their code because they think that anything made in a thing like that can be treated as protectable work < 1455498731 952325 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I haven't tried Game Maker, no. < 1455498733 669141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although I do not. As far as I am concerned it makes it more difficult to port or do other things with if it is obfuscated and mixed up < 1455498747 234503 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Good. < 1455498790 468587 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I am firmly of the belief all games smaller than a full-scale game should be developed from scratch (using whatever libraries/bindings are convenient). < 1455498802 753831 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found Microsoft Excel to be a really useful product. < 1455498826 275391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: That may be true; I don't know. I can program for Famicom as well; do you know how? < 1455498828 64343 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Fair enough < 1455498835 286759 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nope. < 1455498852 939499 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like... you should see the stuff I've done with Excel. < 1455498861 66375 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A "Full-scale game" being something that requires an engine to be even considered) < 1455498873 214319 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, Excel actually isn't very good at doing what I'm doing. < 1455498873 922285 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excluding, of course, educational games (that is, games developed to learn programming) < 1455498878 334687 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everything else is even worse. < 1455498878 596680 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'key=${1,,}; shift; cat <<< "${*,,}" > "wisdom/$key" && echo "Learned «$key»"' > le/nn < 1455498880 749241 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455498899 650891 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now pizza < 1455498914 481563 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmflry/random number < 1455498915 136683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo $RANDOM < 1455498916 559183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you must learn Famicom programming. < 1455498918 295661 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :` le/nn thisisatest this is a test < 1455498918 933272 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1455498923 351071 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/nn thisisatest this is a test < 1455498924 359828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: le/nn: Permission denied < 1455498927 70938 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`call/cc < 1455498928 115090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/call/cc: No such file or directory < 1455498934 856311 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x le/nn < 1455498937 376389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455498938 969595 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :` le/nn thisisatest this is a test < 1455498939 959847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1455498941 491674 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk call/cc < 1455498942 540118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1455498944 911700 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for christ sake < 1455498949 306322 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/nn thisisatest this is a test < 1455498951 886535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «thisisatest» < 1455498954 319535 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir call < 1455498954 676466 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thisisatest < 1455498955 19000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455498955 803584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a test < 1455498967 898307 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/thisisatest < 1455498970 284793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455498974 776295 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch call/cc < 1455498974 918603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up the game "Attribute Zone" which is the puzzle game based on the limitations of Famicom PPU; these limitations are the important part of the game < 1455498977 491040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455498987 725215 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now everyone can use le/nn instead of le/rn < 1455498987 867559 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "echo $RANDOM" > call/cc < 1455498991 528726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no < 1455498992 532699 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better interface < 1455498994 891877 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`call/cc < 1455498995 520369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/call/cc: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/call/cc: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1455499003 998942 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an idiot < 1455499007 530212 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot to put it in bin < 1455499026 361832 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls call < 1455499028 658284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc < 1455499032 465802 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to put it in bin < 1455499037 376023 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make it executable < 1455499047 801583 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm call < 1455499048 464871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `call': Is a directory < 1455499056 441721 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf call < 1455499057 166242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1455499068 627042 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm call/* < 1455499069 297128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `call/*': No such file or directory < 1455499071 654272 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: Thank you, I was just about to try that, then remembered I'm an idiot < 1455499080 965768 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it would probably delete the entirety of hackbot < 1455499099 69993 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, true < 1455499101 629683 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks abashed < 1455499104 229538 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nvm < 1455499129 740620 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -r call < 1455499130 570488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1455499140 998071 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm call -rf < 1455499141 650420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `call -rf': No such file or directory < 1455499148 216461 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir call < 1455499148 952443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove `call': Directory not empty < 1455499155 275043 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm call/cc < 1455499155 602734 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls call < 1455499158 417215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc < 1455499159 632033 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499161 319217 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir call < 1455499161 989309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499167 405306 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls call < 1455499168 261563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access call: No such file or directory < 1455499178 300779 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir bin/call < 1455499179 37253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499189 657111 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "echo $RANDOM" > bin/call/cc < 1455499212 462521 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`call/cc < 1455499213 331969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/call/cc: No such file or directory < 1455499229 341925 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch bin/call/cc < 1455499231 935546 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499235 41805 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "echo $RANDOM" > bin/call/cc < 1455499252 949781 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`call/cc < 1455499253 675525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/call/cc: No such file or directory < 1455499261 65146 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1455499266 288284 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll leave it to someone smart < 1455499277 308586 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you trying to create bin/call/cc? < 1455499286 330580 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will that do? < 1455499300 14424 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: Well... um... < 1455499303 649570 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1455499304 617833 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ benvenuto \ bf \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ blessyou \ bookofeso \ botsnack \ bseen \ bugs \ buttsnack \ ca < 1455499314 249666 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where all the other ` commands are < 1455499343 525507 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? < 1455499351 806911 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ < 1455499352 472551 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499362 292315 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: So I assumed that would work... < 1455499372 935036 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :work to do what < 1455499376 179899 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think it does not have a way to identify the nick <-- you can do that with a manual privmsg to nickserv < 1455499384 647034 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: Make it so I could `call/cc < 1455499391 895998 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/le < 1455499393 4997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/le: No such file or directory < 1455499404 404632 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls le < 1455499405 25021 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : well, no privmsg to nick < 1455499405 278251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn \ rn \ rn_append < 1455499409 573181 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1455499411 917390 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a kind of problem < 1455499461 582187 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: See, I haven't gotten Linux working on my laptop yet, so I don't know the way bash works very well xD < 1455499480 191204 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which le < 1455499481 192269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499482 450447 :heroux!~heroux@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455499484 724549 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which le/rn < 1455499485 510254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn < 1455499490 937366 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`where le/rn < 1455499491 543852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: where: not found < 1455499499 404398 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1455499500 86788 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1455499517 77752 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/call/cc < 1455499519 730641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499524 891819 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir bin/call < 1455499525 793421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499532 112944 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My joke wasn't very good anyway... < 1455499535 560490 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1455499536 461256 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ benvenuto \ bf \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ blessyou \ bookofeso \ botsnack \ bseen \ bugs \ buttsnack \ ca < 1455499539 567462 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, good < 1455499556 342099 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: Have a better joke for `call/cc < 1455499564 400473 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ Hi < 1455499565 230592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455499569 720644 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`* < 1455499570 859544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wälcåmä < 1455499574 83707 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`* < 1455499575 155853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello-world-in-any-language < 1455499586 548615 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language C < 1455499587 349471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455499595 805201 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I do quite like that one < 1455499603 817961 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1455499610 313721 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language bf < 1455499611 48419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455499629 706999 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: It's really just "echo 'Hello, World'" < 1455499635 921958 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Wait, it does <-- i should think so, since i implemented that. < 1455499648 755687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should think so, but do you? < 1455499666 801595 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Compute < 1455499667 609141 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455499668 715195 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: See < 1455499700 620129 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do nopl and nopw take arguments? < 1455499720 314377 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no, it's generating code in whatever language you specify to print out "Hello, world" and then executing said code < 1455499757 220833 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja NICK :Elronnd < 1455499763 335055 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earenndil: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Compute hth < 1455499769 664947 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're Elronnd xD < 1455499775 855783 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if you were new < 1455499803 734347 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also Aah, Ellbereth, Gilthonniel, and realdonaldtrump < 1455499805 317490 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Spanish < 1455499806 75274 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455499828 734785 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe we should special case Spanish...) < 1455499851 606581 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455499875 511987 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455499876 380699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Hello, World < 1455499898 251516 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455499905 872619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Anybody who puts "real" in front of their handle to clarify that they aren't a parody will, from now on, make me think of mysql_real_escape from PHP < 1455499947 757551 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't do PHP, but I know about it) < 1455500006 998075 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'if [ $1 -eq "Spanish" ]; then echo "¡Hola, mundo!"; else echo "Hello, world!"; fi > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500008 120677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'if [ $1 -eq "Spanish" ]; then echo "¡Hola, mundo!"; else echo "Hello, world!"; fi > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500017 74792 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'if [ $1 -eq "Spanish" ]; then echo "¡Hola, mundo!"; else echo "Hello, world!"; fi' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500017 678328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'if [ $1 -eq "Spanish" ]; then echo "¡Hola, mundo!"; else echo "Hello, world!"; fi' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500057 433779 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Switch would be better for the purpose of extension. If bash has switch. < 1455500073 528141 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, this is bash, not sh? < 1455500084 155844 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :that aside, sh suports case statements as well < 1455500086 393297 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Maybe it is sh? < 1455500099 178384 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language TheLanguageOfLove < 1455500099 819579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455500104 85892 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Spanish < 1455500105 16553 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455500114 875005 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, how can I modify bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500117 165304 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL < 1455500127 811907 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500128 990424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Hello, World < 1455500136 115688 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Did you what happened above? it didn't actually get modified < 1455500157 600283 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Not exactly sure < 1455500161 569991 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language test < 1455500162 580527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455500165 128339 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Spanish < 1455500165 948759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World < 1455500175 442572 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Yeah, you spelled it right < 1455500181 816696 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: OH! < 1455500183 186548 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "echo Hello, test" > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500184 10403 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"echo Hello, test" > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500184 608459 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You forgot to `` < 1455500195 952281 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo 'if [ $1 -eq "Spanish" ]; then echo "¡Hola, mundo!"; else echo "Hello, world!"; fi' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500196 498992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1455500201 382752 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'if [ $1 -eq "Spanish" ]; then echo "¡Hola, mundo!"; else echo "Hello, world!"; fi' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500203 738173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455500212 77409 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Spanish < 1455500212 748695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/hello-world-in-any-language: line 1: [: Spanish: integer expression expected \ Hello, world! < 1455500213 717246 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Spanish < 1455500214 452964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/hello-world-in-any-language: line 1: [: Spanish: integer expression expected \ Hello, world! < 1455500223 774569 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1455500245 122513 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I think we should probably create a directory of hello worlds, and make it just default to "echo Hello, World!" < 1455500250 626253 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: For the purpose of jokes < 1455500260 891580 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :No no, I'll set up the case thing < 1455500294 737925 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: case is less extensible < 1455500309 169915 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Honestly, a directory would make more sense. < 1455500312 325688 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? You just said it would be *more* extensible < 1455500315 132640 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1455500325 352466 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Yes, but it would be less extensible than a directory < 1455500332 116351 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500332 883946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `bin/hello-world-in-any-language': File exists < 1455500333 237935 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More extensible than IF, less than directories < 1455500340 604263 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Just call the bin hw < 1455500344 302578 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hw < 1455500345 392126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/hw: No such file or directory < 1455500347 426627 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500352 155255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455500354 713844 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: NO! < 1455500355 282469 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500356 25437 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455500369 38475 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what? < 1455500372 48359 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Here's what we should do < 1455500388 107593 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1455500393 764965 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a directory *above* bin < 1455500410 116979 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: bin/hello-world-in-any-language should be the command, /hw is the language fiels < 1455500411 497768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should scrap the whole thing. < 1455500412 785268 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*files < 1455500413 121852 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then make hello-world... cat out ../hello_world_languages/$1 < 1455500420 255969 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: We probably should < 1455500433 889819 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: BUT it should default to just "Hello, World!" < 1455500434 543406 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1455500456 601894 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir hw < 1455500457 337247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455500483 92220 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500484 64258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455500517 843358 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "cat ../hw/$1 | echo" > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500531 298814 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `mkdir call <-- you don't need that for `mk any longer < 1455500537 112441 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? < 1455500543 215548 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat /hw/$1; fi ' < 1455500545 782762 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, right, you made it better < 1455500571 289140 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Forgot to redirect hth < 1455500590 316904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat /hw/$1; fi < 1455500594 578648 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat /hw/$1; fi ' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500595 326719 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: bin/hello-world-in-any-language: Is a directory < 1455500612 659307 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500613 404596 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455500620 921614 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat /hw/$1; fi ' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500622 858022 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455500629 102019 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500629 699660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/hello-world-in-any-language: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/hello-world-in-any-language: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1455500631 286207 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500631 894458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/hello-world-in-any-language: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/hello-world-in-any-language: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1455500636 616766 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I was expecting that to happen < 1455500649 376279 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I think we need to copy privledges or something < 1455500677 551017 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500678 425601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1455500678 568035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should just scrap it. < 1455500688 15752 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nooooo < 1455500711 744919 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :nOO00oo..oo00OO00oo..ooo < 1455500742 721188 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :nO0o.o0O0o.o0O0o.o0O < 1455500755 597031 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: `nooo? < 1455500757 546137 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nooo < 1455500758 124604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nooo: not found < 1455500778 497539 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod 7 bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500779 425598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: missing operand after `7 bin/hello-world-in-any-language' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1455500784 24475 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455500792 495955 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod 755 bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455500793 216822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: missing operand after `755 bin/hello-world-in-any-language' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1455500811 43864 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1455500822 582245 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Forgot to put it in bin <-- that wasn't the reason, and you would have saved a lot of work if you'd actually read what others were saying hth < 1455500830 861020 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? < 1455500841 361098 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi from backscroll) < 1455500852 167557 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sh -c "chmod 755 bin/hello-world-in-any-language" < 1455500852 746273 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: 0: Illegal option - < 1455500855 213514 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The joke was stupid anyway < 1455500867 874138 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Seriously? < 1455500918 435617 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan : well, no privmsg to nick <-- are you sure your client is legal < 1455500932 615734 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I apologize for what you're about to find when you reach Elronnd and my shennanigans < 1455500958 250440 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1455500994 976864 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455500999 548240 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : the app simply does not have an interface for that, or did you mean the legality of protocol? < 1455501021 629213 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod bin/hello-world-in-any-language 755 < 1455501022 363658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: missing operand after `bin/hello-world-in-any-language 755' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1455501028 211321 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod --help < 1455501028 996245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: chmod [OPTION]... MODE[,MODE]... FILE... \ or: chmod [OPTION]... OCTAL-MODE FILE... \ or: chmod [OPTION]... --reference=RFILE FILE... \ Change the mode of each FILE to MODE. \ \ -c, --changes like verbose but report only when a change is made \ --no-preserve-root do not treat `/' specially (the default) \ --pr < 1455501052 774762 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the problem is that *HackEgo* is combining "755" and "bin/hello-world-in-any-language" into a single argument to chmod < 1455501059 334226 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: OH! < 1455501073 406879 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 755 bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501077 958268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501082 394627 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH! < 1455501087 994196 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501088 856961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1455501091 198368 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language C < 1455501091 951256 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /hw/C: No such file or directory < 1455501108 258179 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Close enough < 1455501131 694497 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld JOIN :#esoteric < 1455501134 539450 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '#include int main(void) { printf("Hello, world!"); } > hw/C < 1455501135 817522 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "Hello, Segfault!" > hw/C < 1455501136 774381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1455501137 931659 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: you should think so, but do you? <-- occasionally. < 1455501140 114044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501143 58215 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Whoops < 1455501175 935692 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: We don't want to give the HW code (there's a whole Github repo for nothing but that) < 1455501187 754082 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :where would that be? < 1455501191 263805 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: We just want to make jokes about what programs tend to do < 1455501207 351505 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Just duck duck go "hello world " and it'll autogive you the result < 1455501209 174348 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1455501210 587900 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Client Quit < 1455501225 736999 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "SyntaxERR" > /hw/python < 1455501229 263836 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language C < 1455501229 884816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /hw/python: No such file or directory < 1455501230 138708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /hw/C: No such file or directory < 1455501237 79503 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls hw < 1455501239 927350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1455501244 184682 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1455501253 800346 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch hw/python < 1455501257 689354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501263 36139 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "SyntaxERR" > /hw/python < 1455501265 642809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /hw/python: No such file or directory < 1455501269 615975 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "SyntaxERR" > hw/python < 1455501272 245121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501283 854890 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language python < 1455501284 772064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /hw/python: No such file or directory < 1455501289 746814 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: That's weird < 1455501302 939494 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501303 962031 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat /hw/$1; fi < 1455501305 481207 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally kinda prefer the (also valid) headerless C "hello world": int main() { int puts(const char*);puts("Hello, world!"); } < 1455501311 321208 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH! < 1455501312 716009 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed 's/\/hw/hw' bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501326 709092 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/\/hw/hw' bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501328 793671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command < 1455501331 639019 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: The issue is you aren't .. ing < 1455501337 741951 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1455501340 916066 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got that < 1455501343 743787 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Also, you need -i for sed to write to the file < 1455501366 222623 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Are you fixing it or should I? < 1455501376 135242 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it < 1455501411 751455 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\/hw/..\/hw/' bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501415 132905 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501422 96884 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language python < 1455501423 322984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ../hw/python: No such file or directory < 1455501424 760789 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't know that you can declare functions in other functions in c < 1455501431 143983 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: WHAT!? < 1455501435 597141 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CAN DO THAT!? < 1455501439 56777 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1455501439 982589 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1455501441 721090 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_ did it < 1455501459 148037 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :99+2i bottles of beer on the wall < 1455501461 748038 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to C. you can do anything in C. the only limit is you. < 1455501469 861488 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think that paths are relevant to the directory *you* are in, not that the program is in < 1455501470 650027 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Which is a pretty severe limit. < 1455501475 871774 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Oh < 1455501482 459171 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. please refrain from imaginarifying bottles twh < 1455501496 883689 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/..\///g' bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501497 903501 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: We could just have "pwd" in it as a test < 1455501500 146534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501508 776750 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language python < 1455501510 185180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: python: No such file or directory < 1455501516 865954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the idea of all this? < 1455501524 519291 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501525 122429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat $1; fi < 1455501525 308262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it meant to be funny or what? < 1455501525 533070 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: We're being idiots < 1455501544 868846 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't an idiot < 1455501548 815906 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ is what an idiot says < 1455501557 128487 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :but because I didn't say that, I'm better than other people < 1455501561 774458 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm *not* an idiot xD < 1455501562 258775 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/$1/hw\/$1' bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501563 272533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 11: unterminated `s' command < 1455501568 196342 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/$1/hw\/$1/' bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501569 537659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ -z hw/$1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat $1; fi < 1455501576 913753 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1455501577 810931 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1455501588 512406 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You are only allowed to declare a standard function without including the header if you can declare it without using types from any standard headers. < 1455501591 954517 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FTR, I'm not -i ing intentionally, so I can make sure I got it right) < 1455501596 295110 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should just start over instead of messing with sed < 1455501598 132046 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/\$1/hw\/\$1/' bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501599 895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ -z hw/$1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat $1; fi < 1455501601 290020 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And yes, you can do it from function scope, not just global scope. < 1455501602 863381 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think you should scrap the whole thing. <-- i'm inclined to agree. < 1455501608 888095 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, i'm grumpy. < 1455501623 396454 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else cat hw/$1; fi' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501624 425779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also grumpy < 1455501626 117410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501629 895039 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: but why? < 1455501634 264470 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language C < 1455501635 273715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Segfault! < 1455501637 633747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was less grumpy before the whole thing starter < 1455501637 815689 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1455501639 289341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :started < 1455501640 950852 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language python < 1455501642 132374 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxERR < 1455501642 635658 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESYESYESYESYESYES < 1455501647 381198 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the function you declare isn't scoped < 1455501650 148045 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA < 1455501657 159039 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language thislanguagedoesnotexist < 1455501658 77532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: hw/thislanguagedoesnotexist: No such file or directory < 1455501662 671914 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NONONONONONONONONO < 1455501668 891269 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE CAN FIX THAT < 1455501673 331610 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: HOW < 1455501675 798415 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I believe the declaration actually is scoped. < 1455501682 838841 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There. < 1455501690 589697 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyways, the reason for it is because pre-standard C let you do the same. < 1455501702 529497 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Maybe we should have a `mood command... < 1455501704 367107 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1455501705 583174 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ISO C tried to break as little as possible. < 1455501710 778944 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Says everyone else on the channel < 1455501727 617333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you know that you're making everyone else unhappy, why do you keep doing it? < 1455501739 2812 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'if [ -z $1 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; else if [ -f hw/$1 ]; then cat hw/$1; else echo "Your language does not exist"; fi; fi' > bin/hello-world-in-any-language < 1455501740 990329 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455501746 857010 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because... I'm... um... < 1455501758 465880 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Perhaps we should do this via private messaging HackEgo? < 1455501769 904631 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :...probably < 1455501795 584989 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should probably have told Elronnd about `mkx at this point. < 1455501801 224874 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: That's... um... that makes no sense < 1455501801 403340 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works! < 1455501809 542172 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld JOIN :#esoteric < 1455501810 727118 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does `mkx do? < 1455501826 212382 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Why do you have auto-echo "Hello, world" AND "Your language does not exist"? < 1455501831 12615 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome groteworld < 1455501840 270595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08groteworld: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1455501846 757327 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you don't give it an argument, it says "hello, world" < 1455501854 704203 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH < 1455501867 494384 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: so it's only limiting what you can do < 1455501871 446800 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should have `gofuckyourself for people who are assholes... Luckily, that never happens. < 1455501894 670623 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Now we should FILL the hw directory < 1455501895 335730 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should do that though < 1455501899 185420 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1455501899 378846 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Via privmsg, of course < 1455501937 419011 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: I apologize for what you're about to find when you reach Elronnd and my shennanigans <-- APOLOGY ACCEPTED. also someone should have explained HackEgo's basic command execution by now. < 1455501950 372961 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, yeah < 1455501992 12281 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1455501992 367827 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 150100Z 24010KT 15SM FEW240 M20/M28 A3052 RMK CI1 CI TR SLP343 < 1455502008 645128 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan : the app simply does not have an interface for that, or did you mean the legality of protocol? <-- i mean that there may be an expectation that you can answer private messages, say for example if an op were giving you a warning... < 1455502015 376965 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Client Quit < 1455502017 263940 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot... it's warming up... rejoice... < 1455502041 635512 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : afaik there is none. < 1455502233 608266 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION seems to have got stuck 20 minutes behind the present < 1455502426 470861 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're at least 6 hours in the future or thereabout. I wouldn't worry about a meager twenty minutes. < 1455502430 880437 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered that /hw/ and hw/ are not the same thing hth < 1455502471 817828 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one's obviously slashier than the other, but I feel like I'm missing something important... < 1455502478 393330 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, we got it working < 1455502512 536857 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language java < 1455502513 483157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory overflow < 1455502541 31577 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error in thread '#esoteric' java.lang.NullPointerException < 1455502634 569387 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay you found it out. and i'm _still_ 20 minutes behind. < 1455502642 936067 :jaboja!~jaboja@aejf81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455502655 895770 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1455502677 652035 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: at this rate you'll never catch up < 1455502683 17670 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add entries by adding files to hw/$languagename containing the string you want to print < 1455502688 952894 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language chef < 1455502689 836269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combine the computer and the water in the mixing bowl. < 1455502707 863963 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language fungot < 1455502708 301291 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the next item. we were literally taken for madmen, for people who live in the most scandalous silence, without the need for detailed examination of the chemicals in use today and the issues they raise were the subject of peace with us here. < 1455502708 983643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1455502719 543632 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language befunge < 1455502720 731970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1455502724 546616 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. < 1455502973 97827 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :has someone written a brainfuck extension that allows for X yet? < 1455502999 918081 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: There. <-- does that mean you'll slow down enough for me to catch up to the present? < 1455503035 606168 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455503040 550381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how far behind are you < 1455503068 867631 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: X? < 1455503085 300020 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xorg? Windowing system? < 1455503087 960834 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455503093 560381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 🎁 < 1455503268 836951 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm just 10 minutes behind... watch out < 1455503293 251672 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets his snooze for 10 minutes < 1455503354 159974 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: how far behind are you <-- 5 minutes hth < 1455503379 467427 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM HERE < 1455503391 834305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you like the present < 1455503406 828515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some strange unicode around here < 1455503416 917181 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🎁 < 1455503423 688873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F381 WRAPPED PRESENT \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8e 81 UTF-16BE: d83cdf81 Decimal: 🎁 \ 🎁 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1455503429 917576 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1455503448 228650 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not unwrap it as i couldn't see it properly. < 1455503464 554994 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, swatter polish < 1455503624 603386 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swatter polish? like paste you rub on your swatter to make it shine and go faster? < 1455503671 613279 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, subsonic swatters are _so_ 2015. < 1455503673 17482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you're not careful oerjan will use his swatter canadian on you < 1455503704 140519 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls hw/*ask* < 1455503707 799679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access hw/*ask*: No such file or directory < 1455503819 362733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides from oerjan's hypersonic swatter < 1455503820 390541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so confusing that oerjan doesn't even know which swatter to use on me < 1455503835 914544 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CANNED CHICKEN < 1455503847 13041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to write a JavaScript program that can communicate with Xlib < 1455504039 149485 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nodejs or browser? < 1455504062 997214 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls hw < 1455504063 139695 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For nodejs < 1455504064 132527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck \ c \ chef \ java \ python \ shakespeare < 1455504122 566916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Communicating with Xlib would be silly to do in the browser I expect (you can use XUL and/or HTML instead in such a case) < 1455504189 719961 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, just checking you weren't trying to do something ludicrous < 1455504206 464843 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it even be possible to do it from the browseR? < 1455504209 693992 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/R/r < 1455504245 50133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly in a privileged context (not a webpage), although I don't know for sure < 1455504654 694150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I could not figure out how to properly make up a plugin, I decide instead to use a program written in C that it is used by pipe with the JavaScript program; it may also later to implement things other than Xlib also in the same C code and JavaScript module that would call it, such as music, and possibly partially SQLite, possibly also a few others < 1455504741 444150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you want to use a pipe you could connect to the X server directly and communicate using the X protocol. < 1455504836 340980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Here's a library: https://github.com/sidorares/node-x11 < 1455504880 291250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am aware of that, but I would find it easier to just use Xlib. That node-x11 package seems a bit incomplete and some documentation missing too as far as I can tell; I have looked at it. Anyways I do intend to later add music as well, so it isn't only Xlib anyways < 1455504928 597416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if that package supports X Resource Manager functions? < 1455505165 425872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can then make Athena-like widgets on top of that, probably the widgets would be written in JavaScript, although I may add a few functions in the C code to help with such thing too < 1455505670 752273 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal ais523: what about a pure call stack (just calls on it) and one data stack? That is still TC then? <-- underload without a and * can easily be implemented that way, i think, since you don't get anything on the call stack that's not just the remainder of something in the original program. < 1455505670 894567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455505690 344761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I made that point too < 1455505715 780784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal aimake doesn't do cross compilation yet < 1455505715 959542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455505740 478964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal although the fix would probably involve separate BUILDOS and HOSTOS < 1455505740 621202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455505745 717428 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you mentioned underload without a and *, but not that it had a pure call stack. < 1455505751 577338 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i've seen yet. < 1455505771 296472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I mentioned that too (that you couldn't put anything on the call stack that wasn't in the original program, so that each call stack element had finitely many options) < 1455505804 245810 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you said the bits, but you said them before Vorpal asked that question so i assume it wasn't an obvious deduction < 1455505867 118498 :jaboja!~jaboja@aejf81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455505906 301438 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal in other words, what ais523 mentioned counts as "pure call stack" imo < 1455505906 443758 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455506126 220696 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal also iirc the right call stack in my TM/minsky constructions contains only ! and ^ commands, nothing nested. < 1455506126 399431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455506465 974134 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : subtle cough is sub-TC but it can't be far off <-- i thought about unlambda minimalization a bit, you need at least one of s and c for non-halting. i haven't found any TC subsets without s and k yet, though. < 1455506499 889505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you have s and k you don't need anything else < 1455506504 395659 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1455506525 241446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first thought was c and i, I don't know how close that is < 1455506544 678363 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding i gives you nothing but itself < 1455506556 968354 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also v doesn't help. < 1455506575 704341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have c, v has the /possibility/ of helping < 1455506583 201084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without it it's totally useless :-D < 1455506611 610272 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it doesn't, i checked c+i+v and i'm not sure if i finished k as well. < 1455506615 740962 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455506626 516439 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455506639 621378 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i was most interested in excluding s < 1455506646 431228 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455506686 932929 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: v is not actually _totally_ useless without c. you can program with e and CPS. < 1455506695 659616 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think the result is BF-complete < 1455506715 963673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e? < 1455506726 192920 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e needed only to halt the program from your deeply nested computation) < 1455506735 905032 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e is the "halt program" function < 1455506738 273627 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you read one character and print it in unlambda? < 1455506755 445606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: unlambda has a specific command for doing basically that, which is cheating really < 1455506755 921809 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think i checked that e doesn't help with c+i+v as well. < 1455506773 209596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without using it, you need to read input and check against all possible ASCII characters < 1455506782 194049 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda ``@|iTest < 1455506782 336491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : T < 1455506789 24925 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: ^ < 1455506977 567641 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, when i wrote the unlambda in unlambda interpreter, i needed a full character table for implementing ?x but i could use | to implement .x < 1455507038 172079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you ? and | the same input character? < 1455507051 910077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would seem useful for, say, Underload-in-Unlambda < 1455507059 234507 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you replace the call stack with... < 1455507060 690467 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1455507071 283936 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which incidentally revealed a bug in some of the interpreters such as the distribution C one, they don't distinguish 255 from EOF) < 1455507075 656543 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A graph? < 1455507094 793541 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that should be possible. < 1455507146 981653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that a failure in reading in the original program, or something that happens later? < 1455507147 123985 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: with enough call/cc use, you nearly have that already. < 1455507159 415446 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh yeah... < 1455507163 57281 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How about a hypergraph? < 1455507181 502719 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that only work with call/cc-h? < 1455507193 597756 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the EOF test compares the read character to -1 but it's stored in a char... < 1455507200 647871 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Welcome, I suppose < 1455507209 160738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: easy mistake < 1455507214 477713 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: heck if i know < 1455507217 341222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and theoretically, there could be a C interp where that works < 1455507224 804615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it'll fail on most < 1455507224 947110 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1455507225 896906 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Ah, Xorg? < 1455507246 39370 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should make hyper call/cc < 1455507327 377398 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: So, GUI4BF basically? < 1455507356 555051 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1455507394 413060 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Hm... < 1455507401 652966 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: How, precisely, does Xorg work? < 1455507410 332276 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there are delimited continuations, but i have only a vague idea about them. < 1455507411 817186 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Is it syscall/register stuff, or something higher < 1455507418 417660 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :poorly < 1455507431 742577 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That doesn't sound hypergraphic < 1455507434 33911 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program will send signals to the X server which will in turn draw things on the screen < 1455507443 834444 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking a command to give the character on the current cell to the X server instead of to stdout < 1455507447 190631 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well i don't know enough about them to prove they aren't :P < 1455507470 744820 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know they can supposedly implement mutable state all by themselves < 1455507509 186421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a few C programs that use Xlib, one is to display a PNG file (it is much faster than ImageMagick) and other one is to make up a menu for window operations (including delete window, the process ID, and signals) < 1455507509 367375 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: You could try something more like PSOX, but I would recommend a complete new set of features; perhaps pbrain with special procedures? < 1455507515 511466 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: hm, if all you want is colour output, maybe just have . write to the (VGA?) framebuffer and advance a pointer, cyclically < 1455507529 328535 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I did have an idea for libraries with BF with pbrain-style functions < 1455507550 361521 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also that they're enough to make monads in an imperative language < 1455507554 375233 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you could theoretically render something complex like text, but it'd be awful < 1455507566 176937 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without extra syntax) < 1455507580 119452 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use the | full-line command to import a library, which uses the value in the current cell and defines the functions as that value+ < 1455507585 907222 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you mean write ANSI colour codes? < 1455507640 587120 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean like, you'd write the red channel for the top-left pixel, then the green channel for the top-left pixel, then ..., until you reach the blue channel of the bottom right pixel < 1455507642 644371 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :then restart < 1455507659 50828 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1455507659 193413 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only problem is that the function numbers are dynamic (consider `,\n|socket`), but that can surely be resolved < 1455507662 946914 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be awful < 1455507715 717412 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess it wouldn't be impossible to, say, output a disc or something < 1455507755 961919 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: That sounds incredibly slow < 1455507765 126693 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1455507773 742179 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: If you're interested, I am designing a BF-like language for OS development < 1455507776 552915 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, with a fast enough implementation < 1455507781 294774 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a small enough display < 1455507796 155698 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You're going to write an OS. In bf. < 1455507802 21163 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: A BF derivative < 1455507805 495541 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing one in C is hard enough! < 1455507805 697399 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455507807 730183 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Already did, though I can't test it < 1455507822 356929 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1455507825 160848 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :VMs are a thing < 1455507864 599518 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I need a compiler < 1455507876 78679 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: http://pastebin.com/Swiu63ub has an example in an earlier iteration of the language < 1455507911 586624 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought you meant that you had already written an OS in C < 1455507930 859099 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Oh < 1455507950 701175 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Well, same goes for writing an OS in C: I can't get a cross-compiler to compile for some reason < 1455507952 728332 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried < 1455507960 664635 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably because I'm not using a Linux < 1455507983 994575 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be it < 1455508052 719033 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Did you look at the BF TestOS? < 1455508184 53527 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I have not heard of that < 1455508208 191669 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: The one I just sent you a pastebin link to < 1455508212 307856 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/Swiu63ub < 1455508233 325365 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on my limited knowledge of ELF < 1455508271 701437 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell izabera oerjan: that's not very nice :( <-- my apologies but the last few days _every_ newbie has made the same mistakes < 1455508271 843889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455508300 986589 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What wasn't very nice? < 1455508312 585206 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better yet, izabera: What did mean ol' oerjan say? < 1455508340 266586 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :berating you all for having a goldfish's memory of HackEgo syntax hth < 1455508347 268811 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah. < 1455508364 873217 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I envy goldfishes' ability to use bash < 1455508384 353451 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera might be asleep. it would be the sensible thing at this time. < 1455508513 498756 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: We don't have school tomorrow here in `murica < 1455508625 956646 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Oh, I thought you meant somebody had made an OS with vanilla BF < 1455508631 707115 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope someone makes BF bindings for LLVM < 1455508668 652335 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera is not in america afaik < 1455508716 672389 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455508760 266377 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455508761 981263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455508774 406188 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: No, no, no < 1455508833 276069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455509278 847555 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1455509282 978903 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with LLVM? < 1455509294 800897 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: No, I was referring to the first part < 1455509300 730340 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1455509303 701112 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I got that < 1455509631 276289 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1455509635 137089 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're printing things < 1455509648 289856 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you defined a terminal/display in your compiler? < 1455509666 103308 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: ... < 1455509666 914877 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1455509847 897001 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Why? < 1455509853 320291 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: What exactly is happening? < 1455510025 98786 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455510276 881878 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu < 1455510345 919449 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1455510359 510391 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wusup? < 1455510380 44975 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm stuck thinking about OSFuck < 1455510436 653703 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's that? < 1455510450 461304 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: BF derivative designed for OS development < 1455510584 603580 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1455510594 337995 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how you would efficiently compile BF to JVM < 1455510713 520564 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Probably with algorithms hth < 1455510880 335066 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1455510920 516397 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling a superset to a subset is easy < 1455510936 903157 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you compile a subset to a superset? < 1455510965 157819 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: You just compile it to ASM and assemble it < 1455510979 298558 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but that wouldn't be "efficient" < 1455510996 129656 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: How not? < 1455510996 634242 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't want + to be compiled to inc < 1455511002 983749 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Why not? < 1455511008 524618 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want +++++ to be compiled to add 5 < 1455511011 415447 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is inc inefficient < 1455511015 895774 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah, That's easy < 1455511029 857359 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just RLE the program and map everything to an ASM pattern < 1455511039 311119 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but what if there's a loop around the +++, then I would want it to compile to mul < 1455511057 358985 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah, yes. Now you're explaining properly < 1455511066 922702 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: However, how do you know how much it's going to loop? < 1455511067 843098 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I wrote a compiler that does just that in Clojure. < 1455511075 862773 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if theres a double loop around that, I would want it to be compiled to exp(y*log(x)) < 1455511079 525748 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Sounds uncomputable < 1455511109 333478 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I think the RLE is efficient enough < 1455511125 860836 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, ,[>,[+]] < 1455511134 228559 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no < 1455511152 217467 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something with that technique though though < 1455511164 415603 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: link? < 1455511204 592143 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's basically pattern matching on every node in the syntax tree < 1455511229 764567 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If you have a syntax tree, you're probably doing it wrong < 1455511245 263803 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A syntax [(Char, Int)] is all you need < 1455511254 5628 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm describing the general issue, and by extension it's application to BF < 1455511257 860055 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: https://github.com/lambda-11235/brain, although it probably doesn't do as many optimizations as you're talking about. < 1455511377 276644 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/matslina/awib does more of what your talking about. < 1455511384 814639 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1455511418 914970 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: The first compiler I ever wrote. :) < 1455511432 209998 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: So /are/ you new? < 1455511535 172987 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Or just an altnick? < 1455511563 666912 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: To this channel? Yeah. < 1455511574 793116 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome lambda-11235 < 1455511589 984260 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]> adu: If you have a syntax tree, you're probably doing it wrong <-- if you don't have a tree, you're probably underestimating the problem hth < 1455511594 643800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09lambda-11235: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1455511599 93601 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1455511614 422406 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps < 1455511650 927872 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: agreed, I think < 1455511733 361492 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch (even though i've never written an optimizing compiler of anything, even brainfuck) that the _really_ hard part is dealing with code that searches around on the tape. < 1455511756 650827 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you essentially would have to correctly guess how the data is laid out. < 1455511785 846553 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Would you happen to know the algorithm for logical negation in BF? < 1455511827 866249 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that only deals with 2 cells should be optimizable to a simple command in principle. < 1455511859 991225 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope < 1455511867 193059 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 3 unbounded cells it's TC so obviously unsolvable. < 1455511878 883899 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you? < 1455511893 210755 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what < 1455511908 876294 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BF ! < 1455511938 551965 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rarely. < 1455511957 925576 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did write that 3 cell proof. < 1455511969 697639 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean BF logical negation? < 1455511972 783661 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1455511979 71679 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1455511987 540551 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*OKAY! < 1455512033 245749 :Xe!xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Quit: *.yolo *.swag < 1455512033 626332 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you know how to do logical negation in BF? < 1455512037 379999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you remind me of the man < 1455512044 631251 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which man < 1455512049 774033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the man with the power < 1455512086 335639 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sure. >+<[>-<[-]] < 1455512100 446909 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy first if needed. < 1455512120 301929 :Xe!~xe@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric < 1455512138 996499 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: TY < 1455512142 990617 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YW < 1455512144 6051 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh, tfth, etc < 1455512170 608631 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think i am not acquainted. < 1455512269 188845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "you remind me of the man" < 1455512269 797218 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU9wLjk4II8 < 1455512402 300215 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455512448 309995 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAA < 1455512464 79966 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has trouble with comedic embarassment < 1455512481 517231 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455512557 189718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google you remind me of the babe < 1455512557 999502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4gABvUhhkg < 1455512986 670214 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1455513338 137241 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: somehow that was slightly less embarassing. slightly. < 1455513695 572621 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455514519 631948 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1455514933 502541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that LodePNG is a much better PNG library than libpng. I think one of the same people who was on esolang made up LodePNG, that is how I could easily found it < 1455514980 959821 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LodePNG does omit some of the more obscure features of PNG that libpng gives you access to. < 1455515000 281369 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... But, on the other hand, libpng is awful enough I almost prefer writing PNG reading/writing code *myself* to using it. < 1455515015 595842 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and the same person has worked on zopfli < 1455515020 801260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, modify LodePNG if you need the obscure features < 1455515053 765964 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: libpng is like curl but without curl_easy_* calls < 1455516736 450144 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently watching the last Harry Potter movie < 1455517064 94314 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : spoiler: voldemort dies < 1455517076 994038 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler: the world continues < 1455517284 584536 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455517473 464746 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 7:15 am and i checked my email and linda walsh posted a 300 lines script to the bash mailing list and i want to kill her < 1455517478 920534 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it illegal < 1455517520 630073 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455517647 591459 :andrew__!~andrew@119.139.18.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455517670 34103 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is so unfair < 1455517688 398055 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: *sigh* < 1455517695 210015 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What did billy say to you today? < 1455517755 163032 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a bash user sent a bash script that could have been text explaining the problem < 1455517783 547701 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Ah < 1455517827 925376 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Still on? < 1455517838 505078 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1455517855 582613 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455517871 514313 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1455517921 363443 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Just curious < 1455518017 771592 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Ah, I knew I had something to ask you, but I doubt it's relevant anymore < 1455518036 940712 :jaboja!~jaboja@aejf81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455518038 156212 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Did you find something wrong with my BF TestOS? From the parts you can understand, at least? < 1455518120 212687 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I'd send you the documentation for the non-vanilla commands, < 1455518139 621840 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm currently in the process of obsoleting the language in favour of something better < 1455518242 30604 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it looked okay from what I understood of it. The comments and the syntax explained it pretty well < 1455518265 682123 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: did the script at least demonstrate the problem? < 1455518272 708715 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Yay! I'm not a shit commenter! < 1455518297 984579 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it a script they just posted and asked "it doesn't work, help?" < 1455518374 444786 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Don't trust anything I say though, I mostly skimmed and read the comments < 1455518401 216371 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1455518444 231633 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455518586 491065 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit they used canned clapping during the gop debate < 1455518922 154887 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so the rumours claim. I don't see any evidence < 1455519310 976847 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ben Carson made up a fake stalin quote < 1455519546 513663 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1455519824 817305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455519824 981601 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455519825 294915 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455519835 338589 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455519837 945194 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455519839 526365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1455519842 413182 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1455519842 716050 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1455519845 389081 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1455519845 531468 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1455519853 958473 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455520248 617726 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1455520251 552630 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What was the quote? < 1455520262 762256 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in what context did he use yt? < 1455520284 595175 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rule: s/i/y/ yf you happen to feel lyke yt) < 1455520310 633827 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455520373 585985 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I'm also trying to make a computerized Nomic called λ-nomic < 1455520381 471024 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomyc < 1455520381 909912 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: It's written in LISP :) < 1455520459 305208 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gamerules, not the actual interpreter < 1455520666 223504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGBB < 1455520666 609455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGBB 150650Z 32009KT CAVOK M00/M01 Q1022 < 1455520689 447535 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I like it, y is close to an upside-down λ < 1455520705 592255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ג is close to λ in some fonts. < 1455520958 426939 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ג < 1455520973 172219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+05D2 HEBREW LETTER GIMEL] < 1455520979 900929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: What's the two-nick thing about? < 1455521006 22214 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hysterical raisins < 1455521128 361733 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joseph Stalin said if you want to bring America down you have to undermine three things -- our spiritual life, our patriotism, and our morality," Carson said, puzzling some observers, who couldn't quite place the remark. < 1455521251 734837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://206.174.0.58/lambda/rules and http://206.174.0.58/lambda/funcs < 1455521278 98594 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I know anything about LISP, I know it isn't very /good/ LISP (it's imperative) < 1455521376 412373 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :purely functional nomic < 1455521386 723304 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any mutable state < 1455521395 331580 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1455521442 248200 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdnh < 1455521448 615815 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tchm,bwnhp < 1455521469 557313 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it looks like LISP does have imperative-ish things < 1455521488 874201 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it does. lisp isn't particularly pure. < 1455521518 830757 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys know this? https://github.com/esseks/monicelli < 1455521687 305278 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't compile that :\ < 1455521889 38211 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know the German word Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz can't be translated into English!? < 1455521981 173694 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a germann why not? < 1455522017 457948 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455522019 415224 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cattle marking and beef labelling supervision duties delegation law" < 1455522025 23262 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks translatable to me. < 1455522035 944317 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It's a joke about people who say certain words can't be translated < 1455522046 660946 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They certainly can, they just don't come cleanly in a word or two < 1455522065 356898 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't in german, too < 1455522074 665486 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt it takes more than a paragraph to translate a used word in any reasonable spoken language < 1455522075 588506 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, only real difference is English likes putting spaces in its compound noun phrases. < 1455522090 859437 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the jewish chuzpe more < 1455522096 665676 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rind flesh ticketing over watching off gave over trackings sets" < 1455522099 85752 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cattlemarkingbeeflabellingsupervisiondutiesdelegationlaw" is about what'd be like if we *didn't*. < 1455522157 765204 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: That'd be amazing. I'm kind of tempted to learn German (I'm already set up to take the class in my next year of high school, so it's too late to still be tempted) and start incorrectly applying its grammar rules to english xD < 1455522204 89655 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be easier to parse german because of this stuff < 1455522221 832370 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beef labeling monitoring delegation Act < 1455522231 422243 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Google translate is surprisingly good with german < 1455522242 752915 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Programming language based on german? < 1455522250 316669 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday after I geeaten dinner i geate ice cream < 1455522266 903055 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there is GERMAN which isn't really funny < 1455522279 67037 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be "Old English grammar". < 1455522285 657319 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably more to it than adding ge- to the start of past tense verbs < 1455522294 420103 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That's anti-funny < 1455522302 373021 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not surprisngly, Old English had, y'know, more of the classic Germanic syntax in it. < 1455522307 208542 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At some point in my life, there's going to be a hilarious joke told < 1455522320 469802 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I won't be able to laugh because that article was anti-funny < 1455522324 764242 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think you'd omit ge- there. < 1455522331 574280 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, geeaten is like gegessen? < 1455522336 919692 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Past-tense programming? < 1455522346 10057 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`"hello world" was printed` < 1455522364 54421 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :future 2 programming! < 1455522365 784004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: "hello: not found < 1455522366 222601 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eaten" and "ate" are already Germanic strong verb conjugations. < 1455522393 380813 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but gegessen vs essen is a thing < 1455522396 814830 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You should use your german superpowers to make a non-non-funny german programming language < 1455522470 120038 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Sure, but not in that sentence. :) < 1455522517 466585 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Huh! < 1455522530 760363 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say so < 1455522550 57298 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eaten" effectively has the "ge" prefix in it. In Middle English that become "y-", and it was mostly dropped. < 1455522559 569003 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... But "eaten" starts with that sound already. < 1455522615 400801 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a hard time for me figuring out "_a_ university" < 1455522746 79853 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455522915 879473 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : And I won't be able to laugh because that article was anti-funny <-- that'll be the wurst < 1455522949 510590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you did there < 1455522967 21753 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the other thing is that you move the verbs to the end of the sentence hth < 1455523003 109371 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all sentences < 1455523021 760517 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the verbs that get ge-ed, i mean. < 1455523047 312536 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also infinitives < 1455523071 888141 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, finite verbs are at the second positiin, except for dependent clauses < 1455523128 411511 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right in dependent clauses they too go to the end. < 1455523209 306949 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ich werde gefahren worden sein wollen" < 1455523227 106473 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :love it < 1455523292 169249 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. there is some point in the future at which i wanted to be driven < 1455523343 566417 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, and worden drops the ge- again < 1455523360 224496 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the chain gets too long < 1455523383 330756 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such thing as a chain too long :p < 1455523395 239381 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1455523407 752161 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love writing sentences spanning three or four lines < 1455523477 259425 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i see what you did there <-- you can blame david morgan-mar for that one. < 1455523499 696496 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i know him? < 1455523520 405988 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he makes irregular webcomic! and some other comics < 1455523537 152427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone has heard of David Morgan-Mar. < 1455523552 486256 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some alone, some in collaboration, some crowd sourced < 1455523555 831728 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, i do not < 1455523579 594288 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one autogenerated < 1455523620 465381 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what happens if we feed fungot with some joke websites < 1455523620 818286 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: there was an ad hoc way, will concentrate firstly on securing ambitious and credible. our europe, does in any case i invite the commission now highlights what it considers to be essential for the european union < 1455523621 875794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's practically a deity in here < 1455523623 873233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iwc was the first webcomic i read. learned about it here. < 1455523626 266093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps myname lacks piety < 1455523631 688075 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1455523635 557082 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwc < 1455523635 699436 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1455523641 952115 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i thought... < 1455523643 493400 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1455523643 635837 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1455523648 255289 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwcs < 1455523648 397631 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: iwcs (Irregular Webcomic scripts) < 1455523657 244218 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please demonstrate < 1455523657 467069 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, of the house, so he wasn't joking i don't bolivia! < 1455523670 267852 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's not a very good demonstration < 1455523670 410048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not even waving the swatter around? < 1455523670 552582 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: our own webcomic! character would die a horrible, i hesitate to mention, but significantly in the past. as the people of nigeria! < 1455523687 768630 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i missed your sentence, too much happening. < 1455523697 237922 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, an oots style < 1455523716 568825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/olist | r13 < 1455523721 821830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: r13: command not found < 1455523725 235282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/olist | rot13 < 1455523726 335908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ funpuns \ brewna \ Ftrb \ SverSyl \ obvyl \ abeggv \ o_wbanf < 1455523730 902926 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: oh right, DMM also made esolangs back in the day. Chef, Ook! and Piet are among his. < 1455523745 704887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: do you want to be added to olist? < 1455523753 932064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can't stop logreading just because you're in the channel < 1455523754 74403 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 2 out of 3 aren't that bad < 1455523765 980414 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you get no swat since you reminded me of his esolangs hth < 1455523794 406564 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i have a webcomic reader reminding me. also, i have a few 100 strips yet to read < 1455523866 179100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you read the olist pdf thing yet < 1455523888 900946 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pdf thing < 1455523935 421798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :start of darkness < 1455523956 588763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is that meant to be a pun on "heart of darkness"? < 1455523959 94127 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatkkks that < 1455523968 238131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so i missed it until now < 1455524050 568744 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: you can't stop logreading just because you're in the channel <-- i don't, but i don't necessarily read the moment it's spoken, especially when i'm already trying to respond to something else < 1455524141 181474 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: did you read the olist pdf thing yet <-- it is safe in my backup that i still haven't copied back to my pc after the repairs hth < 1455524158 2217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also just download it again presumably hth < 1455524176 172132 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that pdf about? < 1455524176 314688 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i dunno, i never bothered registering at the site < 1455524204 9720 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's a comic book. shachaf made the bad decision to give it to me as a surprise gift. < 1455524221 998101 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to do to get it? < 1455524228 946748 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this happened _just_ as my catching up with everything web was going downhill. < 1455524238 650974 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*buy it to me < 1455524332 264650 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh, is that meant to be a pun on "heart of darkness"? <-- oh it must be, given "The origin of PCs" < 1455524361 189211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, i didn't get that one until now either < 1455524376 110283 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that one i got before < 1455524376 311748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is PCs pronounced with emphasis on the first syllable? < 1455524383 447694 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1455524392 698584 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it rhymes perfectly with the pun < 1455524398 642258 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1455524412 878406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I didn't get it. < 1455524459 592775 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wiktionary claims species could be pronounced either way < 1455524474 304110 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the pun works regardless, i think < 1455524510 717009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huhwhat < 1455524516 929587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this Heart of Darkness thing? < 1455524530 796333 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm, it was origin of PCs you bought btw afair < 1455524536 990272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1455524541 221169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1455524544 702934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of durkon's prophecy < 1455524547 15102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1455524556 502585 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's Origin of the PCs a pun on? < 1455524566 422473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not good with English puns and pop culture < 1455524591 763411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one isn't available as pdf < 1455524595 129476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: On the Origin of Species < 1455524604 84954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1455524610 613825 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that Darwin thing < 1455524626 409158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thanks, I could never have figured this one out < 1455524645 544751 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the hints we've gotten about xykon and redcloak's past, i don't think i would _want_ to read start of darkness. < 1455524657 576740 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's, like, pretty dark. < 1455524659 392333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which hints? < 1455524687 867633 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe spoilers i've read somewhere < 1455524692 19518 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or both) < 1455524701 770160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh come on, it can't be much worse than the Kin-Slaying and the Oath of Feanor, can it? < 1455524702 958300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at FAQ for Pale Moon browser reveals some new settings that I believe are good idea, including "network.stricttransportsecurity.enabled" and "dom.disable_beforeunload", as well as features I have not thought of ("canvas.poisondata", which tampers with data read from canvas areas). Most of these features probably can be implemented in Firefox as well (possibly with userChrome.js), but may be more complicated to implement. < 1455524721 824497 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, let's just say redcloak has very good reason to hate humans. < 1455524734 419041 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i didn't read that far in the silmarillion, either. < 1455524762 960336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think that userChrome.js extension is one of the best Firefox extensions I am using; many things can be done with it, including stuff that it seems no other extension does < 1455524831 826870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably all the OOTS book titles have some sort of reference in it that I don't understand. < 1455524882 549746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to wait until there's a Complete Olist of the Stick book. < 1455524893 588445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like having lots of small books. < 1455524906 371525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: SMALL? < 1455524912 334553 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't really that small, at least some of them < 1455524922 61255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you may have to wait a decade then < 1455524935 955318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fine. < 1455524970 765150 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's this Heart of Darkness thing? <-- a famous book by joseph conrad. i think that's also pretty dark hth < 1455524990 333395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not like dark books? < 1455525012 962509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it true that "Ørjan" has emphasis on both the first and second syllable twh < 1455525112 145273 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not much. < 1455525165 154432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think that HSTS setting could have three settings: "enabled", "allow user override", and "apply to location bar". The "apply to location bar" setting is only applicable if HSTS and relative location bar are both disabled, and if enabled means that HSTS is used to decide the protocol when the user has entered a domain name in the location bar without specifying which protocol to use. < 1455525210 261081 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good guys always lose. < 1455525282 44710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The alternative: Everyone always lose..... < 1455525369 917521 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it true that øerjan contains a null set? < 1455525401 867825 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it has second pitch accent, which does make the second syllable feel stronger than if it had first pitch accent. at the same time, i find the main stress hard to ascertain. < 1455525515 928251 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm after a little testing, i think it's on the first. < 1455525530 787555 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot get it to scan in a verse with the second. < 1455525625 314380 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. If you're writing a compiler that you bootstrap with another compiler, what are good words to mean (a) the already working compiler you bootstrap with, (b) this compiler you're bootstrapping, and (c) the output this compiler shall produce? < 1455525728 506188 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ghc seems to call the compilers stage 1 and stage 2 < 1455525868 865291 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be more creative names than that. Such as "laces", "boot without laces", "boot". :P < 1455525878 8808 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although those aren't that creative...) < 1455525902 152600 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did I read something wrong in that sentence... < 1455525912 478316 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh italian wikipedia is spamming me with email notification despite never having contributed... oh hm < 1455526010 511645 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1455526071 938227 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose someone there was just overenthusiastic < 1455526108 104855 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-207-242.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455526428 788654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but I'd prefer relative ones < 1455526432 567960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :relative words < 1455526439 817140 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not absolute ones < 1455526459 492599 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, some wikipedias do that: < 1455526473 327044 :I!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455526497 48558 :I!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net NICK :Guest34332 < 1455526507 12657 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a combinations of, (1) auto-creating an account if you just visit, (2) auto-greeter bots that greet even if you never edit, and (3) accounts created with email notification for edits to your user talk page enabled by default < 1455526533 633527 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one of those three is wrong, but I'm not sure which, there are some good arguments for each < 1455526583 361334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in combination, they results in emails in languages you don't understand from just clicking on a link < 1455526595 679803 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455526597 769333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a few such emails < 1455526609 685478 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, accounts are global now, so (1) is correct i think < 1455526613 774115 :Guest34332!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net NICK :atslash < 1455526617 152788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not necessarily < 1455526637 581107 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm automatically _logged in_ everywhere. < 1455526637 800045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: StackExchange has global account, but creates an account on each site only when you first request one < 1455526665 654374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :after you create an account on a SE site, you can no longer back out without godly intervention, you get auto-logged in, but you have to allow creating the account in first place < 1455526677 845180 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that could have worked for wikimedia projects global accoutns < 1455526686 49358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even then < 1455526706 108361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto-getting greeting emails in languages you don't understand, even if you never edit, seems strange < 1455526717 993878 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i sort of like (1). < 1455526731 396478 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah (2) seems odd. < 1455526809 301193 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess that's case closed, then. i _did_ visit it.wikipedia today to look up that "untranslatable word" from izabera's link (the last part of it means "trowel".) < 1455526817 116932 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure, but you could say (2) makes sense because if a user is going to edit, then maybe it's better to greet a user with useful links about how to edit usefully _before_ he edits < 1455526831 984653 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1455526841 74694 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? that was a German word. why it.wikipedia? < 1455526859 786739 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no? < 1455526874 357101 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh not a word discussed in channel. < 1455526893 56173 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one mentioned on that github page izabera linked. < 1455526908 482410 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/B_jonas shows I have accounts on way more (centrally authed) wikimedia projects than I've edited < 1455526943 676310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've edited on 17 projects (if you count even single edits like creating a userpage), < 1455526960 220549 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :supercazzola < 1455526977 761303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz ? < 1455527106 637862 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it was supercazzola. < 1455527135 726404 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455527144 102035 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a supercazzola is just some random made up words that sound like plausible words, they're said quickly so the person you're talking to doesn't understand what you're talking about and whether you're making fun of them or not < 1455527166 205616 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a useful concept < 1455527175 668334 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was made popular by an old italian movie < 1455527193 684669 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i first tried en.wiktionary, which was a little ambiguous (except telling that the normal spelling was cazzuola), so i went to it.wikipedia to check what it normally meant. < 1455527222 526443 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that would explain why i couldn't find any of the _other_ words on that github page :P < 1455527281 563609 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're taken from that movie < 1455527286 907704 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a very cromulent concept indeed < 1455527347 104314 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1455527354 784261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like “kiszera méra bávatag” < 1455527371 461310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(invented by a Karinthy short story) < 1455527431 562481 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455528092 522407 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1455528357 467808 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@67-2-63-198.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455528358 420896 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1455528371 631263 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455528533 185432 :TodPunk!~Tod@67-2-63-198.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455528535 69552 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455528863 717727 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455529378 766664 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455529551 859725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add into JavaScript some new features: arguments.generator, macro, WeakMap.prototype.watchGC (may be useful with FFI), etc < 1455529560 236513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion? < 1455530507 701865 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455530517 846558 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1455530517 989198 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455530591 505000 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1455531765 607279 :I!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455531789 34651 :I!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de NICK :Guest33799 < 1455531836 302987 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455534556 508240 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455534631 567190 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455534749 435368 :bender|_!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:83f:33dd:b5b2:bef0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455535064 746727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1455535315 581211 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455535883 701437 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455536085 673155 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455537107 367677 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455537178 82650 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455537184 334587 :bender|_!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:83f:33dd:b5b2:bef0 NICK :bender| < 1455537791 741288 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455537829 777286 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adult captchas: Select all images with balls. < 1455538143 419558 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455538448 802560 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look, the results of http://www.underhanded-c.org/ have been out for a while < 1455538472 159426 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no rule that Haskell's fromInteger has to be a ring homomorphism, is there? < 1455538697 241589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. I think there may usually be a convention for it to be true, but I don't think Haskell enforces that. < 1455538702 222852 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YMMVV. < 1455538975 914365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Num instances aren't necessarily rings in the first place. < 1455539005 251045 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I know < 1455539010 499002 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floats are weird < 1455539035 440987 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats aren't rings? < 1455539222 199527 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: BARRACUDA CHICKEN < 1455539301 177271 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0/0) * 0 :: Float < 1455539302 988209 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1455539315 912542 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily NaN * 0 == NaN < 1455539316 54871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455539341 816673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also addition isn't associative hth < 1455539367 840911 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quickcheck \a b c -> (a + (b + c) :: Float) == ((a + b) + c) < 1455539367 983198 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1455539370 276350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0.1+0.2)+0.3 == 0.1+(0.2+0.3) < 1455539371 942803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1455539372 94676 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't nornal, but in floats, it is < 1455539377 458364 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \a b c -> (a + (b + c) :: Float) == ((a + b) + c) < 1455539379 117447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 2 tests and 84 shrinks): < 1455539379 259737 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -0.17450391 3.4075708 -1.7455688 < 1455539408 653096 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are shrinks? < 1455539424 995814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychologists < 1455539460 191541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :their assistance is usually required after dealing with floating-point arithmetic < 1455539549 870629 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no way. Floats aren't even a ring. < 1455539699 696197 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455539832 735865 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455541163 152393 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455541390 900816 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455541929 661400 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455542530 740470 :andrew__!~andrew@119.139.18.134 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455542746 2862 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455542816 551843 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455543032 572355 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455543076 132151 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455545615 651986 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 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1455553078 335696 :shikhin_!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1455554734 130958 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455555273 93823 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1455555847 678423 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1455555887 119095 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-207-242.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455555899 717310 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455556296 908107 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455557289 789860 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1455557987 841653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Norfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46406&oldid=16175 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+39) 10/* External resources */ < 1455558261 235074 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing lowercase fraktur, and uppercase blackboard bold < 1455558334 308628 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1455558488 92704 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://spinroot.com/courses/summer/Papers/dijkstra_1975.pdf < 1455558496 218209 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do...od OMG < 1455558505 565200 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone must go back in time and kill dijkstra < 1455558571 179098 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then we might still be using goto < 1455558579 988690 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :we still do < 1455558601 307234 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1455558601 604991 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're already still using... fuck stupid english tense system < 1455558610 168591 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"James explains why World War II series of Extra History won't use swastika of Nazi Germany." < 1455558610 796996 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did someone go back and kill Dijkstra already < 1455558613 171169 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nazi nazis :( < 1455558635 97778 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455559137 905755 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are they supposed to spot nazis if there's no swastikas labelling them? < 1455559150 606005 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455559166 195456 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, maybe they'll use double zigzags < 1455559191 496644 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455559231 193965 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ᛋᛋ? < 1455559236 769201 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1455559313 945293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehwhat < 1455559549 898550 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stupid to fear the symbol of an ideology so much that you avoid using it even in teaching the history of that ideology < 1455559628 868710 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like if you had a history of islam without the shahada and the star and moon, or a history of communism without a hammer and sickle, or for that matter a documentary about christianity with no crosses... < 1455559806 886620 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, what if you had Stalin in front of a flag with a yellow Ю on it. ridiculous < 1455559988 764275 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1455560033 912913 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, it's stupid < 1455560067 449879 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but note that they might be trying to avoid legal trouble, for fear that some lawyers could turn the laws against them < 1455560109 25651 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, censorship laws... < 1455560115 168786 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahhhhhh < 1455560129 762053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you don't live in a country with laws against using hammer-sickle, red stars, arrow-crosses and swastikas in certain context, do you? < 1455560156 169287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's even worse in Germany. < 1455560163 157032 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, canada has laws against hate speech, not against specific symbols associated with hate speech < 1455560173 408543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, those too < 1455560278 934134 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a youtube video saying english people have problems with the pf sound < 1455560283 645961 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that true? < 1455560298 987456 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a pf sound? < 1455560305 56051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sound? < 1455560313 782887 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1455560320 975694 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german word for horse is pferd < 1455560332 159904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, yeah, that seems a bit difficult < 1455560343 872906 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1455560367 751712 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds kind of like ts but with your lips < 1455560403 703592 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, ts has a completely different positio of the tongue < 1455560431 9827 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455560434 282252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, a pf does not need the tongue to move at all < 1455560608 258006 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's still a plosive frictive sequence in the same place of articulation isnt it < 1455561122 27953 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455561418 32368 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455561472 570520 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1455561580 172604 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455561681 503642 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1455562332 56621 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to get ''"" instead of ‘’“” in error messages without fucking up my locale completely? < 1455562384 80072 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_CTYPE=C messes up readline so that must be utf8 :\ < 1455562458 602405 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1455562472 451005 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1455562743 607497 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh, does tr '‘’“”' \'\'\"\" work? < 1455562775 409481 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ‘’“” | tr '‘’“”' \'\'\"\" < 1455562806 105422 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :booo < 1455562808 478221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"""""""""""" < 1455562819 385805 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1455562830 826335 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnu tr doesn't convert multi-byte sequences < 1455562840 266214 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for reasons < 1455562843 38256 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :use sed for that < 1455562873 801058 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ‘’“” | sed 'y/‘’“”/'\'\'\"\"/ < 1455562876 810689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​''"" < 1455562910 828936 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so guess pipe your stderr thru that? < 1455562917 721028 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew... < 1455563096 116346 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ‘’“” | tr ‘’“” abcd < 1455563097 408402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddcddddddddd < 1455563102 974585 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that wrong? < 1455563202 649677 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no i see < 1455563347 713087 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1455563371 8822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seem to be too many programs that incorrectly output non-ASCII characters even when the user doesn't specify that it should < 1455563587 177848 :jaboja!~jaboja@ehh79.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455565394 512265 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455565403 704435 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455566165 292969 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455566266 746400 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in KSP, jet engines work underwater < 1455566323 379048 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455566332 611391 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checks out. < 1455566465 243663 :jaboja64!~jaboja@eml107.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455566660 371979 :jaboja!~jaboja@ehh79.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1455566754 586847 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455566917 778165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: so twitter is the secret mechanism for contacting you < 1455566929 688046 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a jet-propelled submarine < 1455566934 543222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound very secret < 1455566973 144458 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455566998 529779 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455567156 641313 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1455567173 585756 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455567831 295222 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yep! < 1455567884 99365 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: does it work underwater? < 1455568213 406542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some friends who built a pedal submarine < 1455568329 531768 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Casey & Andy (in the comic) built a wood-powered submarine < 1455568392 182206 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455568406 178625 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455568467 523526 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to tell cpp to keep escaped newlines in macros? < 1455568493 674009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I don't think so. that would screw up line numbers and not do anything else useful. < 1455568499 883290 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1455568506 455844 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newlines (outside of string literals) don't really do anything for the syntax < 1455568508 77870 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be useful to human readers... < 1455568538 979926 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wood-powered submarine => http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=66 < 1455568564 437375 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, did it float? < 1455568829 675844 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455569052 124273 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455569201 266942 :heroux!~heroux@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455569578 441227 :heroux!~heroux@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455569840 381756 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455569937 553870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455570490 603735 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455570556 95763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript has generator function and I made up the "monadic generators" with it too, do you like this? I made it as two monads < 1455571245 509746 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455571282 69536 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455571470 148868 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1455571489 682099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1455571561 335746 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is an enigma wrapped in a series of reverse engineering challenges < 1455571781 713823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46407&oldid=46373 5* 03Albedo 5* (+34) 10/* Beeswax */ beeswax examples added < 1455571788 190732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write on the FAQ of AmigaMML about what I am not but that FAQ is now missing, I believe. < 1455571847 951041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is correct of course; but I am also not a doctor of mathematics and also am not a Japanese person, and so on. (However that FAQ also claims that I am not an enigma, contrary to you) < 1455572027 712551 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455572047 288173 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455572169 746115 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455572276 495353 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455572512 535030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455572888 860984 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1455573518 420424 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-txfcofbfugggrdrz QUIT :Excess Flood < 1455573593 352689 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455573596 490983 :Opodeldoc_!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455573666 377324 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wbbltxqomvknwneu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455573755 721430 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455573764 593953 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@12.23.139.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455573823 666711 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455573843 820025 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455574071 610136 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455574542 218615 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455574638 914271 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1455574832 494250 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1455575443 802754 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455575456 36078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455575589 426646 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455575631 129817 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455575859 153500 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wbbltxqomvknwneu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455576186 328596 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-twkmxcrwxjemlzrv JOIN :#esoteric < 1455576265 620694 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455576304 971355 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :c11 generics are annoying < 1455576305 113804 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455576326 855580 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would be easier to use if they supported some kind of fallthrough < 1455576344 89845 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they would be easier to use if they accepted a trailing , < 1455576366 863012 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@12.23.139.140 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455576671 388008 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455576711 528985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455576725 139706 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1455576725 281971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 10h 23m 29s ago: NaN * 0 == NaN < 1455576744 186223 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. tdh. < 1455576782 368122 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1455577080 945686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some kind of fallthrough like the "default:" association they have? < 1455577101 358357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fallthrough. Never mind. < 1455577110 358596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that sounds somewhat unlikely to be useful. < 1455577128 279202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Misinterpreted that as some sort of a fallback, hence the default.) < 1455577236 939043 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: _Generic(x, int8_t: int16_t: ... signed expr, uint8_t: uint16_t: ..... unsigned expr ) < 1455577647 247304 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1455577700 363984 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1455577937 715170 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1455577970 695433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use more macros. < 1455578051 528110 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION macroes the shit out of this code < 1455578086 306267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the can't-have-compatible-types-in-two-or-more-branches restriction makes them hard to use with stdint types, because you can't know what's compatible and what's not. < 1455578139 621717 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just playing with this but so far it seems to be working < 1455578146 18444 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455578208 516712 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to see the generated code after generics have been resolved? < 1455578257 387521 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disappointed that cpp doesn't do this < 1455578264 160673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a preprocessor construct. < 1455578272 560087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The preprocessor doesn't know about types, anyway. < 1455578285 220200 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't solve the problem <.< < 1455578288 332430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure one of GCC's two hundred of so stages would be post-_Generic, but it might not be the sort of output you want. < 1455578297 463364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can ask it to dump all.) < 1455578305 954484 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455578481 815355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/hCLL like that < 1455578484 133878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover, did it float? < 1455578493 649524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :preventing that was the main idea < 1455578505 887037 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh pretty < 1455578515 538383 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1455578517 826031 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not pretty < 1455578519 863549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why it has the same thing in and out the block. < 1455578528 872041 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc wtf < 1455578552 505550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can go a few steps further and then it's http://sprunge.us/QKRR < 1455578681 479871 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a bit scared by char * * argv < 1455578695 977693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/PagY that's reasonable < 1455578723 715340 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455578932 638589 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile on stackoverflow this is a hot network question https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/68290/menstruating-on-wedding-day < 1455579016 414495 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what's a mikvah and i'll sound racist but what fucked up religion is that < 1455579053 192718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The groom is careful not to touch the bride when putting the ring on her finger." < 1455579058 520232 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds fucking hilarious < 1455579086 340426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i'm just imagining how you'd do that, with your fingers arched and just the tips in contact with the ringt < 1455579108 18227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they've made a device to help with that. < 1455579110 849798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of tongs. < 1455579114 383978 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1455579145 27269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's like that scene in lotr where the ring falls on frodo's finger < 1455579162 663670 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :jews are weird < 1455579174 30932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile "The Yichud-room has another person present; usually hiding there in advance so as to not make this obvious." < 1455579195 975890 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mind me, i'm just a lamp, carry on with the consummation < 1455579204 248412 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1455579259 333199 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it count as touching if you have gloves? < 1455579332 876241 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's the calcified 2500 year old sanitary customs that are the source of the weirdness here < 1455579357 681741 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :two millennia of chanting about the dangers of the cooties will do that to you < 1455579397 112828 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :circle circle dot dot you are now husband and wife. < 1455579467 494353 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1455579597 382011 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've found a better solution < 1455579602 952468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"According to rabbinical law, a woman becomes a niddah when she is aware that blood has come from her womb," < 1455579608 784649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :blindfold the bride, problem solved < 1455579628 326471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are perhaps other ways to become aware of that as well < 1455579668 750674 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we have fallen into the purview of your conundrums of philosophy < 1455579695 985479 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, yes, let's get out of there < 1455579704 39824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1455580019 188608 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455580041 31975 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DECIDUOUS CHICKEN