< 1456030768 542974 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456030769 594217 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host
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< 1456030778 998246 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use non-breaking spaces.
< 1456030809 38723 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you might want to use in cases where you can't actually use html tags, like on a bullitin board.
< 1456030840 230633 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about powerline
< 1456030846 952352 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that need nbsp?
< 1456030871 754646 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's so the status bar doesn't break when you resize the terminal, probably
< 1456030881 774173 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456030893 603991 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically it's airline, but v0v
< 1456030900 745970 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it would, the status bar on tmux doesn't break after all
< 1456030900 944149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Call stack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46437&oldid=46073 5* 03MDude 5* (+40) 10
< 1456030907 217750 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True
< 1456030916 809055 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's a setting to make it use some other character
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< 1456030977 539707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DUCK14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46438&oldid=45835 5* 03MDude 5* (+29) 10
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< 1456031017 186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eitherf*ck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46439&oldid=21649 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10
< 1456031127 403512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Element14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46440&oldid=42722 5* 03MDude 5* (+26) 10
< 1456031234 842281 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod
< 1456031319 210200 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://vimeo.com/11976683  why does his interpreter enter that [-] loop?
< 1456031326 873341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric units of information14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46441&oldid=46326 5* 03MDude 5* (+40) 10
< 1456031434 514063 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it seems there's an extraneous separate page for Funge-98
< 1456031435 431726 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Funge-98
< 1456031518 201402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GodScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46442&oldid=14400 5* 03MDude 5* (+24) 10
< 1456031581 680511 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++>++<[->+<]>>++++++[>++++++++<-][-]<[->+<]>[->+<]>.       his interpreter spends from 3:39 to 4:39 on that [-] that shouldn't even be entered in the first place
< 1456031581 838277 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4
< 1456031596 374025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GodScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46443&oldid=46442 5* 03MDude 5* (-1) 10
< 1456031604 719445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out how to resolve the conflicts, which is by first telling it which version of "libjack-dev" to use, before selecting the main package I want to install.
< 1456031693 513965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gulf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46444&oldid=43382 5* 03MDude 5* (+30) 10
< 1456031751 25099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hyperfunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46445&oldid=44699 5* 03MDude 5* (+40) 10
< 1456031815 770810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DUCK14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46446&oldid=46438 5* 03MDude 5* (+0) 10capitalization typo
< 1456031870 97571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46447&oldid=45368 5* 03MDude 5* (+23) 10
< 1456031978 931072 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I think that's enough for tonight.
< 1456032028 147628 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get to bed, and I'm sure HackEgo could sue a break by now.
< 1456032033 569291 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream
< 1456032038 971398 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1456032075 629789 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I found it. I copied a few lines from someone else's airline config and they set the spacer to be a nbsp. Derp
< 1456032094 781023 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks great, now :)
< 1456032319 984518 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1456032470 190185 :MDream!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Linguistic_Calculus this one looks pretty nice
< 1456032601 287145 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg I misspelled "technical" in my fontdemo, how long has that been there?!
< 1456032815 253316 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe tomorrow I'll add emoji
< 1456032823 700789 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few of them anyway
< 1456032917 207229 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it helps your choices, I use ❤️  and 💔 to indicate clean and dirty status on git repos
< 1456032953 939171 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 💔
< 1456032976 452265 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F494 BROKEN HEART \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 94  UTF-16BE: d83ddc94  Decimal: 💔 \ 💔 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
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< 1456035402 633702 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.1 - http://znc.in
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< 1456037413 22810 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody else here think there needs to be a new prolog? One better than the current one?
< 1456037422 350960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1456037429 836837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current Prolog is good, but a bit outdated and with some strange syntax rules
< 1456037436 320316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you can try to write about improvement if you want to
< 1456037451 745683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What things are wrong with Prolog?
< 1456037509 678290 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Just seems a bit... old
< 1456037545 909136 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The biggest one is that it seems to brute force solutions to problems, which is definitely necessary in some cases, but HORRIBLY inefficient
< 1456037593 49378 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For example, if you tell it X is 5-3 (with many syntaxes), it will check every values from 0 to infinity to see if it satisfies 5-3
< 1456037598 842103 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears
< 1456037605 679743 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't so bad, but factorial is /atrocious/
< 1456037609 871383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes it seem it could be improved, although there may need to be some extra commands to control it if it is necessary to control it for some reason
< 1456037620 702459 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, probably
< 1456037632 492029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But being old isn't a thing wrong with it.
< 1456037636 826582 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably also make it more suitable for GUI
< 1456037643 167690 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, it isn't of course
< 1456037651 637131 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LISP is old, and, well, LISP is god
< 1456037692 715197 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Think I should do static typing like Haskell?
< 1456037696 159442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not see why Prolog needs to be made more suitable for GUI, if instead you can add on a GUI library if you want GUI, isn't it?
< 1456037723 703307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably yes you should do static typing like Haskell, although I don't really know Prolog enough to answer this question properly.
< 1456037735 573923 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, the only GUI library I can find- called XPCE- comes with the disclaimer that it's ACTUALLY a completely unrelated language that does OO
< 1456037746 46228 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really PROLOG, it just looks like it
< 1456037752 748177 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at it, and it's /awful/
< 1456037774 638699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That problem with GUI library yes does need fixed, by writing a proper one for this new kind of Prolog
< 1456037789 829619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not so much modernizing prolog as I am taking the concepts of prolog and making a new one
< 1456037804 533880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can make up a new one
< 1456037807 56206 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Interestingly, if I do haskelly typing the types will be logic too 0.o
< 1456037817 116779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1456037845 222966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean you can use Prolog commands on the types too?
< 1456037853 315295 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Probably :)
< 1456037861 719106 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Though I'll probably be keeping the current predicate syntax with parenthesis, instead of moving to haskelly currying notation
< 1456037871 45025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK
< 1456037882 364680 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Seems kind of necessary to preserve the spirit of prolog
< 1456037889 236628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456037925 7014 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm considering anonymous horn clauses, but that might be a bit of a halting problem
< 1456037966 156457 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. humansAreAllMortal :- (human(X) :- mortal(X))
< 1456038062 313903 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Should I call it Epilog? xD
< 1456038090 650128 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. That isn't taken yet.
< 1456038202 552270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what form
< 1456038204 446140 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1456038261 595013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used the format like the /1 used in Prolog also in the documentation of SQL extensions actually
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< 1456038852 429137 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Was that a question for me?
< 1456038873 865612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456038881 536102 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Sorry, what was the question about?
< 1456038936 546896 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the advantage of anonymous horn clauses
< 1456038961 762494 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not sure yet xD. They could be used for checking if certain rules are true, I suppose?
< 1456039068 659813 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are aware that a -> b is equivalent to ~a or b?
< 1456039101 478787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: now explain par twh
< 1456039135 916677 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~a is actually not that easy to do, but still possible)
< 1456039220 821725 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: OK then
< 1456039287 510410 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm not sure PROLOG allows for ~a or b
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< 1456054854 293666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to figure out the right place to store ordinary bread. Where I stored it until now, it gets moldy too fast, presumably because it got wet and couldn't dry fast enough.
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< 1456055138 838392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably I shouldn't put them in plastic bag, at least not for more than a day or two. I'll have to use a linen bag, replaced with a washed one every week or two weeks, to contain the breads.
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< 1456055906 49803 :ammar2!admin@52.4.212.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone seen this language before? apparently its tape based, might be a BF extension/derivative https://gist.github.com/ammaraskar/c19500590e1f8eedc62e
< 1456057616 436471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tape
< 1456057634 529272 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tape? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456057640 200256 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? imagine
< 1456057641 316944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456057721 120409 :ammar2!admin@52.4.212.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tape/cell
< 1456057784 559914 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Imagine was the only song not interrupted after two stanzas on the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympic Games, a calm moment in an otherwise chaotic rush through fifty pop songs.
< 1456057790 797846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'imagine': Imagine was the only song not interrupted after two stanzas on the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympic Games, a calm moment in an otherwise chaotic rush through fifty pop songs.
< 1456058135 759098 :ammar2!admin@52.4.212.228 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1456058387 4211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? socks
< 1456058388 590931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :socks? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058388 748896 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sock
< 1456058389 751752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sock? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058491 512121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn sock Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058492 446368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456058497 16138 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn sock/Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058499 684944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «sock»
< 1456058502 10765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn socks/Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058504 509044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «socks»
< 1456058507 16893 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? socks
< 1456058509 101170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058609 535748 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? narsil
< 1456058610 294830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narsil? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058612 184178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ring
< 1456058613 117586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them.
< 1456058616 956984 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? one ring
< 1456058617 940285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one ring? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058627 570426 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rhenium
< 1456058628 306138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhenium? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058636 325244 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456058701 205488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Rhenium is a precious metal. It can be found nowhere in Earth because the Enemy has used up all of it for forging the One Ring. 
< 1456058703 419404 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rhenium': Rhenium is a precious metal. It can be found nowhere in Earth because the Enemy has used up all of it for forging the One Ring.
< 1456058809 149263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn one ring/One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
< 1456058811 680822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «one ring»
< 1456058838 594670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? igramul
< 1456058840 97000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :igramul? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058840 859483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ygramul
< 1456058841 658170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ygramul? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058863 561725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? earthquaker
< 1456058864 411172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :earthquaker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058864 934762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? earthquake
< 1456058865 860914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :earthquake? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1456058869 993011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? earth-quaker
< 1456058870 931385 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth-quaker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059307 657195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname *fire* -o -iname *earth* -o -iname *water* -o -iname *air*
< 1456059308 644452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/holy water \ wisdom/real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download \ wisdom/water \ wisdom/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ wisdom/firefly
< 1456059314 48422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? water
< 1456059314 922527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water is a squishy substance that creeps along the floor and can suddenly fall from the heavens.
< 1456059403 470725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? napernyő
< 1456059404 339987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :napernyő? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059496 804019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vector
< 1456059497 493348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059498 368700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? diadal
< 1456059499 161431 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diadal? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059526 78848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bread market here is vastly different from the one back in Finland, which is one of the things I miss. (Approximately nobody's selling proper rye bread, or Karelian pasties -- which I count in the bread category, even though it's arguable -- at any reasonable price.)
< 1456059560 252602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, Hungary used to be about the best place to be if you like bread
< 1456059579 332606 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, if you like to buy ready to eat bread at least, as opposed to making your own bread
< 1456059607 400064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. My household is very much a bread importer.
< 1456059627 154881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foodwise, I think bread and candy are the two main categories where moving here seems to have been a downgrade. (It's all very subjective, of course.)
< 1456059644 870482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :candy?
< 1456059645 727485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456059704 260310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No salty liquorice (salmiak, ammonium chloride) anywhere, for one thing.
< 1456059736 860163 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like salty candy.
< 1456059776 226455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People from countries where that's a thing (I think mostly Finland and Sweden) keep bringing it to work, for the surprise/amusement factor, but too rarely.
< 1456059846 798287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried some in Sweden, when it was sold among normal sweet candy. It was between “eww, this doesn't taste good” and “pew, I can't even finish this stuff” depending on the type.
< 1456059867 620635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The large variety in sweet candy was great though.
< 1456060036 701993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, I believe any sweet candy or chocolate or similar long-lasting foodstuff that's available in Europe and that Hungarian people would want to eat shows up in shops in Hungary eventually, so we might have the same variety here in some years.
< 1456060074 50870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can now buy so many kinds of chocolate here, that if you travel to somewhere and want to bring chocolate home as a souvenir, it's not so easy to find one that's unique enough and can't be find here.
< 1456060097 916999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk chocolate with rice is among what you can bring, but not for very long I think.
< 1456060146 201228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus I keep hearing myths of Milka dark chocolate, but I've never seen it in real life, so I'm not sure it really exists.
< 1456060164 52692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it can be bought on amazon. Then it _probably_ exists.
< 1456060196 505141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear I hear amazon.com is somewhat careful about not allowing to sell non-existant products.
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< 1456060273 475931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? palate
< 1456060275 463524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :palate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456060495 143707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Palate is usually a metaphor for a person's perferences about food or drink.
< 1456060497 895863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'palate': Palate is usually a metaphor for a person's perferences about food or drink.
< 1456060670 398812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's another thing that's missing here: Fazer chocolate.
< 1456060795 842701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, I've brought some Fazer chocolate from Sweden. They're nice, I expect they might show up here soon, or at least some of it like the cream-filled chocolate stuff should. 
< 1456060831 464358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also brought Keks bars, which aren't bad, but I don't think that would be very popular here, because we have better alternatives when it comes to chocolate wafer bars.
< 1456060957 670457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus I brought some Fisherman's Friends sugarless candy, actually from the UK I believe, which at the point wasn't yet sold here, but now they are selling it in a few places; plus I brought that local hard candy too, called, um, what was its name?
< 1456061025 347782 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Läkerol.
< 1456061094 90609 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you have that in the UK.
< 1456061870 951213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've seen. You can get it in Finland.
< 1456062074 286127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a somewhat similar originally very Finnish (now actually part of the same conglomerate as Läkerol, after the Cloetta-Leaf merger) thing called Sisu, which we tend to call "Gifu", due to the old-style font they use in the packaging: http://www.sisulla.fi/fi/etusivu/
< 1456062112 415759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1456062331 140788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fisherman's friend
< 1456062332 836262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? keks
< 1456062338 100963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fisherman's friend? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062338 531184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keks? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062339 231394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? läkerol
< 1456062340 657288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :läkerol? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062343 870727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? milka
< 1456062345 216015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :milka? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062346 25664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fazer
< 1456062346 805313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fazer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062347 535726 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? karl fazer
< 1456062349 417642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :karl fazer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062351 845463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lindt
< 1456062352 761415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1456062683 3398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom still has some catching-up until it beats Wikipedia in coverage. (Obviously the content quality level is already significantly higher. After all, *anyone* can edit Wikipedia.)
< 1456062768 976592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one more chocolate brand I brought from Sweden that you can't buy here, but I don't recall what it was
< 1456062782 155942 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't Finnish like Fazer
< 1456062784 347252 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456062831 55842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I got it:
< 1456062833 152489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marabou chocolate
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< 1456062912 384029 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: .hu?  Try an Ikea.
< 1456062951 476332 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Riviera: yes, Ikea sells some strange foodstuffs you can't buy elsewhere
< 1456062969 826156 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sell Marabou chocolate in the ikeas here.
< 1456062994 934779 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hot dog party packs.
< 1456063014 675364 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And. Hm. Furniture. 8)
< 1456063016 333284 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: do they sell lutefisk
< 1456063029 577735 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a curiosity
< 1456063042 78937 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a lutefisk?
< 1456063048 839128 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what they sell
< 1456063065 604433 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: fermented cod
< 1456063080 963386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been int he ikeas for a while, and I haven't examined the food part in detail
< 1456063110 942835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they sell some sort of crackers, as well as Swedish frozen meatballs, and the sauce and jam that goes with that.
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< 1456063987 817659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't think they do. We were in one of the UK Ikeas a while ago, and they have some conventional Swedish fishstuffs (pickled herring, gravlax) but not lutefisk.
< 1456064055 482016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it seems to be a seasonal Christmas thing in some places.
< 1456064203 370365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think lutefisk became more popular because of Dungeons of Dredmor (which I don't play any more because it's balanced terribly, but which some people like)
< 1456064209 560508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of its slogans is "lutefisk for the lutefisk god"
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< 1456064530 944462 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the UI of DCSS improved?
< 1456064555 553822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: yes but it's still frustratingly inconsistent
< 1456064577 319347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has some extraneous features that I keep triggering by mistake (such as cursor-driven menus)
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< 1456066378 917521 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1456067225 262502 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :jim carrey is anti vax
< 1456067257 821501 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. eh?
< 1456067265 752752 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1456067279 422103 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :he posted pics of autist kids blaming vaccines and their families told him to remove them
< 1456067283 955450 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jul/07/jim-carrey-apologises-tweet-child-photo-without-permssion-autism-vaccine
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< 1456069068 427186 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSFO
< 1456069068 735014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 211456Z 29003KT 10SM FEW160 SCT200 09/08 A3025 RMK AO2 SLP244 T00890078 53006 $
< 1456069078 775685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1456069276 975434 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.lamdu.org
< 1456069295 525469 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this idea scale well past simple examples like sum (1..1000) ?
< 1456069429 805775 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia.
< 1456069455 665787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. westcoasting?
< 1456069704 93930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds cold for KSFO.
< 1456069780 112331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess it's quite early.
< 1456069842 50456 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL
< 1456069842 290241 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 211520Z AUTO 24022KT 9999 OVC015 14/11 Q1009 NOSIG
< 1456069848 98671 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL
< 1456069848 340522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 211524Z 23009KT 5SM -RA BR FEW009 SCT080 OVC090 14/13 A3013 RMK AO2 P0001 T01440128
< 1456069851 971658 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456069852 213487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 211508Z 29008KT 3SM R24L/4500VP6000FT/U -SN FEW008 SCT014 OVC045 01/M01 A2990 RMK SF2SC2SC4 SLP127
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< 1456072369 486634 :MDream!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude
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< 1456072805 778478 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all, I'm exploring the Bernays-Tarski axiom system and wondering how SK combinator logic would be affected if Axiom 2 of implicational propositional calculus would be replaced with hypothetical syllogism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicational_propositional_calculus#The_Bernays.E2.80.93Tarski_axiom_system
< 1456072823 711694 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, I am wonder how (if possible) you can create a combinator from (P->Q)->((Q->R)->(P->R)) akin to S. I'm new to propositional logic, so forwarding me in a direction of tools/resources would be enough to get me started.
< 1456073471 835402 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456073847 571152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The example given there is also using axiom 3 which is Peirce's law (call/cc).
< 1456074067 688618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your variant of SK system to including continuations?
< 1456074105 134718 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ zzo38 Thanks :)
< 1456074107 958122 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I was going to try and exclude Pierce's law
< 1456074158 287623 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure how to prove / disprove this is possible, while still encoding constructive logic
< 1456074178 55212 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least the implicational fragment
< 1456075109 719082 :earendel!~anuska@176.0.104.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456078081 817825 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456078255 736871 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456078288 908516 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1456078332 826983 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456078738 722320 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456079074 181618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to check the source code to tell for sure, or ask schmorp and/or elmex directly, although the latter might be difficult communication-wise.
< 1456079081 50992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1456079083 297714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore that line
< 1456079603 148355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456079652 371146 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1456079812 583271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1456080125 575391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456080259 186510 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump!
< 1456080290 138828 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe there should be a way to mark comment lines at the end rather than the beginning
< 1456080296 418843 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like \\
< 1456080308 475989 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456080320 115566 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a line continuation you fool
< 1456080341 912711 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, uh, hth
< 1456080342 517694 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well \ would be, but \\ is currently invalid in C
< 1456080357 919612 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456080377 914373 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : so the point is, you could do
< 1456080405 360753 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456080407 637410 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\\ is valid
< 1456080433 555507 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the next character after the newline makes an escape sequence
< 1456080487 531174 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what about in the middle of aline
< 1456080501 905971 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still a valid escape for \
< 1456080513 774124 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456080524 111368 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shoudl add that to my mental index of pathological C cases
< 1456080557 491384 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :set the death flag \\ enemy.flag |= FLG_DEAD;
< 1456080625 965485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh,
< 1456080627 259284 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#d\
< 1456080628 536401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ef\
< 1456080630 708302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in\
< 1456080633 262322 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :e \
< 1456080641 276459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was featured in one of the IOCCC entries I think
< 1456080663 833463 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs more ??/
< 1456080677 595325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh
< 1456080715 722568 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456080740 610504 :earendel!~anuska@176.2.137.137 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456080764 909546 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like a<:i:>
< 1456080789 305678 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a way to make your arrays sparkly
< 1456080800 82587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, that syntax gets even better in C++11 
< 1456080837 761729 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has additional tokization rules such that in some contexts it does not parse >> and <: as digraphs 
< 1456080876 558297 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my workplace has banned anything above C++03
< 1456080894 781456 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyy
< 1456080896 655047 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to lack of support on embedded systems
< 1456080988 793247 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems most comilers for things like coffeemakers and refrigerators choke on advanced templates
< 1456081004 929675 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456081013 950312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, technically that's not true. the >> is not a tokizing rule, but a parsing rule.
< 1456081039 383498 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays if your embedded systems compiler isn't just clang + llvm, you're Doing It Wrong
< 1456081064 934877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sucks to have to develop for those embedded thingies I guess
< 1456081075 467468 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the <: is, however
< 1456081114 497647 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not for those embedded things specifically, but it has to be protable to them. anyway this means we have lots of in-house versions of things from boost
< 1456081122 889415 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I believe
< 1456081147 442943 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the compilers choke on boost
< 1456081164 719922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: actually, many parts of boost work on lots of old compilers too
< 1456081168 594680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all libraries in boost, but many
< 1456081221 330160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a few config macros can help when it doesn't)
< 1456081223 48997 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some of the inhouse stuff is just nih syndrome
< 1456081230 852716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure
< 1456081239 604392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or some of it might precede the same thing appearing in boost
< 1456081259 825645 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we have three in-house programming languages as well
< 1456081275 995638 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which compile into c++
< 1456081290 999141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: is one of them QT?
< 1456081295 403799 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456081311 810316 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them compiles into C++, Java and Javascript
< 1456081324 944384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, you wouldn't take QT in a house. it's not potty-trained.
< 1456081333 379649 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456081408 191210 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cod5.org/archive/s/salmon.html this is one of them
< 1456081430 854407 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a pet project of the lead dev before he came to this company
< 1456081450 960122 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that we don't have... strange things at our workplace. Stuff that, after you learn about, you wish you've never met.
< 1456081485 955930 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of old junk, and some new junk too.
< 1456081501 514086 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I don't dare to touch.
< 1456081525 249945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things only one person understands, and he's left the company years ago.
< 1456081579 952841 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this salmon thing will become impossible to maintain if the chief architect ever leaves
< 1456081586 701920 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456081600 471350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1456081615 211266 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's what our equivalent of makefiles is wirtten in
< 1456081627 120585 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so D:
< 1456081669 854448 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :building your house on shifting sand, or whatever the parable was
< 1456081711 759905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not like I don't have such code either.
< 1456081723 399257 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456081777 564053 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a lot of companies have this sort of problem
< 1456081825 90528 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, if I learn to program in Salmon, I can take over the indispensibility
< 1456081848 726463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you only have to learn to program in Salmon, or also learn how to maintain the compiler?
< 1456081932 690341 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compiler is written in C, and doesn't look too obfuscated
< 1456081954 706964 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it an interpreter?
< 1456081985 794530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, either. The implementation. Together with implementations of libraries used.
< 1456082001 698896 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy doesn't use any libraries
< 1456082031 546809 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once found a bug in the parser, which is just a bunch of switches on char's
< 1456082047 8558 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't use lex/yacc
< 1456082063 220367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't always need lex/yacc.
< 1456082121 931575 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah but... it helps to prevent there being problems in the parser because things are checked for consistency
< 1456082559 236647 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456082571 770384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456082635 722654 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( The fool will ask for wisdom all day. The wise man will bask in silence. )
< 1456082641 224664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbolic geometry/
< 1456082641 383244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src.
< 1456083330 935793 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode
< 1456083335 541822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456083337 620223 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 〿
< 1456083338 718474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+303F IDEOGRAPHIC HALF FILL SPACE]
< 1456083348 491500 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUGH
< 1456083357 76704 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S HAF WIDT
< 1456083455 705390 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost my apache logs three days ago
< 1456083466 801166 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess how many ip's used arin.ga since then
< 1456083483 666534 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :50
< 1456083488 958988 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :106 :D
< 1456083506 413291 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I was within a order of magnitude
< 1456083527 164144 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1456083595 2146 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (log10 50) - (log10 106)
< 1456083596 253038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘log10’Not in scope: ‘log10’
< 1456083600 689662 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo
< 1456083618 131476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few things i3wm doesn't have (as far as I can tell), which is:  * Set different color for tiled/floating windows  * Configure mouse cursors for different circumstances, places, modes, and bars  * Startup notification timeout set or always disable startup notification  * Unicode setting on/off (only when core fonts are used; with Pango, force Unicode on always)
< 1456083904 324943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (logBase 2 50) - (logBase 2 106)
< 1456083906 187785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1.0840642647884744
< 1456085960 605288 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (logBase 10 50) - (logBase 10 106)
< 1456085961 983003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -0.32633586092875144
< 1456085979 547727 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, within an order of magnitude
< 1456085999 158181 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1024**(1/3)
< 1456086000 534644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.079368399158984
< 1456086037 41986 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "digital ten"
< 1456086103 485763 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard drive sizes should be expressed in base digital ten
< 1456086217 364301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in base 32
< 1456086252 699672 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with digits @-_
< 1456086274 877341 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, @-^
< 1456086275 35247 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT :
< 1456086285 434344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456086298 123110 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is 1, B is 2, etc.
< 1456086349 700921 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with digits 0-9A-V
< 1456086399 615832 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, that's harder to code
< 1456086536 660245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only the sizes of devices were always given in bytes, rather than varying sector sizes without telling how large a sector is, that would be an improvement.
< 1456086617 506789 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456086637 153720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 bytes for typical hard disks and floppies, but 2048 (IIRC) for CDs, 256 for some lower capacity floppies, 1024 byte blocks for some unix utilities by default (like dd), and possibly more for some future hard disks.
< 1456086690 594532 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often 1000 bytes on packages
< 1456086718 526078 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 4096 for SSDs and newer larger hard drives
< 1456086919 642835 :Opodeldoc_!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456087034 430456 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to have bash exec a command?
< 1456087045 233692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure, there's an exec builtin
< 1456087053 615228 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good
< 1456087112 954522 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm optimizing a bash script
< 1456087143 976402 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456087245 544740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that exec has two forms. with arguments, it execs. without arguments, it just applies the redirects destructively to the current bash process, without execing.
< 1456087311 382697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` help exec
< 1456087317 699814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec: exec [-cl] [-a name] [command [arguments ...]] [redirection ...] \     Replace the shell with the given command. \      \     Execute COMMAND, replacing this shell with the specified program. \     ARGUMENTS become the arguments to COMMAND.  If COMMAND is not specified, \     any redirections take effect in the current shell. \      \     Opt
< 1456087390 230540 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: worth reading: http://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_canadian_initi/2012/05/the-big-secret-banks-are-banks.html
< 1456087618 468141 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I read that. I don't think I understood it
< 1456087700 355778 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: basically people yelling about bailing banks out should understand what the government actually did
< 1456087714 939783 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted, that one's written for Canada and the US situation was slightly different
< 1456087722 231064 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the government jut offered the banks really good loans
< 1456087736 289149 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a "bailout" in the sense of a giant grant
< 1456087832 782635 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem is that that seems to be a reward given to the people who seem to be the perpetrators 
< 1456087915 870412 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :potentially
< 1456087961 936668 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I personally think that if you bail out banks everytime they take actions which cast people into poverty, that will encourage tham to do it more often
< 1456087974 177181 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does help that our banks weren't responsible for the crisis the same way the US banks were
< 1456087991 403869 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. the canadian banks did ok.
< 1456088021 29595 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the post writes about the question of what happens if they aren't supported by government loans, though
< 1456088028 213962 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a good question
< 1456088044 334094 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter who's "responsible", the government *really* doesn't want a bank to default
< 1456088103 514454 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the consolidation of banks in the US is also worth caring about for that reason
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< 1456091401 626198 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-
< 1456091401 784110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 1d 5h 27m 50s ago: Oh, that's simpler than what I had -- didn't even think of testing A with the ]. But yes, something like that.
< 1456091539 910387 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan.
< 1456091598 713233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiloby.
< 1456091689 445101 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!languages
< 1456091696 179349 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages
< 1456091696 567200 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh.
< 1456091705 267632 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps
< 1456091705 530550 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum botsnack brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd glogbot_ignore google graph hello helloworld hug id inc insanetemp jethro kraut lg lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python python2 redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 ruby_ sadbf san
< 1456091743 670040 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the userinterps overfloweth tdnh
< 1456091791 446606 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show glogbot_ignore
< 1456091791 891314 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf ,[.,]
< 1456091809 151613 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp glogbot_ignore
< 1456091809 597932 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter glogbot_ignore deleted.
< 1456091827 521262 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show helloworld
< 1456091827 854025 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload (Hello, world!)S
< 1456091837 67072 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show hello
< 1456091837 563982 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :c char buf[1024]; int i; fgets(buf, 1024, stdin); for (i=0;buf[i];i++)buf[i]=(buf[i]=='\n')?'\0':buf[i]; if (!strcmp(buf, "h")) printf("Hello World\n"); else printf("Unknown command (%s) encountered\n", buf);
< 1456091847 739577 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp helloworld
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< 1456091851 816186 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps
< 1456091852 196967 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum botsnack brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd google graph hello hug id inc insanetemp jethro kraut lg lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python python2 redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 ruby_ sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sffedeesh s
< 1456091860 48481 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still overflowing
< 1456091886 979548 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show postmodern_aoler
< 1456091887 428291 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh postmodern | b1ff
< 1456091897 635552 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp postmodern_aoler
< 1456091897 919227 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter postmodern_aoler deleted.
< 1456091919 459732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show elmer
< 1456091919 989091 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl for (<>) {lc; s/l(?!e\W)/w/g; s/\Ber|(?. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)"
< 1456092959 107748 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Mad Cow Virus
< 1456092960 417129 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show welcome2
< 1456092960 841097 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh interps/tell welcome2;# Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1456092977 808349 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we're not mad here :P
< 1456092988 810705 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's on "Learning Brainfuck and Derivatives", so I figured some sort of plague or invasive species
< 1456093006 84458 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And Mad Cow Virus was suggested
< 1456093019 913459 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome2 test
< 1456093020 392382 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.6273: line 1: interps/tell: No such file or directory
< 1456093032 537871 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome2
< 1456093032 868584 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome2 deleted.
< 1456093044 617784 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show sadbf
< 1456093044 930092 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadol :M$0 :d:i,45000@>i-01(2]M0:i-i1:S$0:C;3:l#C-01:p:m0@:m%+m1d?=#Cp"1<:m?<-m10-s1-m1?=#Cp"1.!'2#Mm?=#Cp"1,:#Mm'1;0?=#Cp"1[]S-p1?=#Cp"1]?=#Mm00:p[S0:p+p1
< 1456093057 363374 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's on brainfuck and some of the more useful derivatives- like weave.rb
< 1456093091 702213 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show map
< 1456093092 131644 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl for(<>){s/\b.+?\b/map/g;print}
< 1456093101 249010 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp map
< 1456093101 655206 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter map deleted.
< 1456093131 950157 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like someone's been attempting to put building blocks for a language in there and there's just no room for that.
< 1456093155 164529 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show python
< 1456093155 467621 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh python
< 1456093158 662126 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show python2
< 1456093159 147104 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh python
< 1456093163 866703 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp python2
< 1456093164 230627 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter python2 deleted.
< 1456093177 296447 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show ruby_
< 1456093177 737007 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh ruby
< 1456093187 208924 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ruby test
< 1456093193 514736 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ruby_ test
< 1456093193 932701 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.6664: line 1: ruby: command not found
< 1456093201 521521 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ruby_
< 1456093201 864784 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ruby_ deleted.
< 1456093204 887364 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps
< 1456093205 218279 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum botsnack brit brooklyn bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird fudd google graph hello hug insanetemp jethro kraut lg lperl lsh monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern prefixes python reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 sadbf sanetemp simplename slashes swedish tell valspeak wacro warez welcome yodawg
< 1456093209 289142 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally
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< 1456093268 702242 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show about
< 1456093269 162813 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload (EgoBot is able to interpret Any language possible as long as you can code the interpreter for it Have Fun :D)S
< 1456093282 885859 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm k
< 1456093295 552220 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1456093416 845716 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BrainHype hth
< 1456093485 30836 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: by "you" it means you hth
< 1456093496 428896 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, me?
< 1456093498 191369 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit.
< 1456093536 242449 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible i broke some other interpreter in there if it depended on calling out via the interps/ directory.  in theory.
< 1456093550 310082 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show bfbignum
< 1456093552 522367 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf (sending via DCC)
< 1456093599 203482 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show plot
< 1456093599 511298 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh echo ''; (echo -ne 'set terminal dumb\nplot '; cat) | gnuplot
< 1456093610 957448 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!plot test
< 1456093611 496098 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/input.6930: line 1: gnuplot: command not found \ /bin/cat: write error: Broken pipe
< 1456093616 687421 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp plot
< 1456093616 960549 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter plot deleted.
< 1456093625 993037 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked a bit too optimistic
< 1456093642 404947 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages
< 1456093642 781422 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh.
< 1456093647 660710 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python test
< 1456093648 472721 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \   File "", line 1, in  \ NameError: name 'test' is not defined
< 1456093668 324332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show graph
< 1456093670 449907 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl (sending via DCC)
< 1456093734 140143 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that might work but i don't know the input syntax.
< 1456093763 617014 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show lperl
< 1456093764 69586 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl $_=<>;s/{{(.*?)}}(?!})/$1/gee;print
< 1456093787 271753 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show lsh
< 1456093787 670540 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl $_=<>;s/{{(.*?)}}(?!})/`$1`/ge;print
< 1456093816 339844 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show lg
< 1456093816 713977 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :python print("This isn't ##crawl!")
< 1456093823 399380 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp lg
< 1456093823 739486 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter lg deleted.
< 1456093864 613744 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lperl what does this do?
< 1456093865 82650 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this do?
< 1456093895 316591 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lperl what does this do?!
< 1456093895 759731 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this do?!
< 1456093960 441416 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lperl 2+2
< 1456093960 950050 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+2
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< 1456093982 457829 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION no idea about that code

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< 1456094465 396121 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? select
< 1456094474 30000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :select is a very versatile construct: it waits for events, retrieves data from tables, creates a list from elements of an input list that satisfy a condition, a dropdown list element, an event for when selection changes, branches between multiple arms, conditional between two expressions, prints a text-based menu prompt in a loop, and more.
< 1456094615 551742 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuclear engines are OP
< 1456094639 7210 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much delta-v
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< 1456096979 872877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46448&oldid=46345 5* 03MDude 5* (+18) 10
< 1456097030 336654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cryptoleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46449&oldid=45990 5* 03MDude 5* (+18) 10
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< 1456097122 591419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DJN OISC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46451&oldid=19059 5* 03MDude 5* (+20) 10
< 1456097143 93547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subleq+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46452&oldid=33342 5* 03MDude 5* (+20) 10
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< 1456097474 884609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:OISC14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46453 5* 03MDude 5* (+176) 10Created page with "One INstruction Set Computer: Languages which consist of exactly one instruction. Often low-level, with the intent of being usable as the instruction set of a proccessing unit."
< 1456098151 773720 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :sortie
< 1456098153 269810 :sortie!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
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< 1456099069 921071 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: hi, have you read Esolang:Policy hth
< 1456099075 535208 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk
< 1456099480 531184 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhindawg
< 1456099568 891732 :shikhindawg!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhincat
< 1456099571 931635 :shikhincat!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1456100065 980809 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456100398 4134 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOunds like something that would be linked form the front page.
< 1456100625 407470 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: right, for example under "Meta"
< 1456100651 253523 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have to admit that tis wasn't the first place where I looked)
< 1456101166 361019 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl PART :#esoteric
< 1456102470 459527 :Darien!40bda8df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.189.168.223 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456102636 599537 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett
< 1456102783 926298 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, I remember Brainhype.
< 1456102825 335809 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1456102827 798369 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see, when was I hppavilion[1]'s age? That would have been around 2006, I think.
< 1456103043 671880 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying to write a new brainfuck interpreter that should be FAST

< 1456103867 536772 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456104762 177070 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas  I'll have to figure out the right place to store ordinary bread. <-- i'm such a barbarian i keep it in the fridge and freezer. although i only started doing that after my bread drawer in the old apartment got bugs in it.
< 1456104762 370783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456105106 985766 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456105240 802322 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff wisdom/sock{,s}
< 1456105253 492352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456105256 432565 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff wisdom/sock{,s}
< 1456105258 389508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456105264 75660 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456105264 753092 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/socks
< 1456105272 24131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456105360 598693 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456105367 45295 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news for the day: got a couple random things done
< 1456105372 514275 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad news: didn't get any work done on mage knight
< 1456105394 133689 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should work on better dice
< 1456105483 24041 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :better dice how?
< 1456105524 397454 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can get better random things hth
< 1456105940 31605 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? palate
< 1456105944 483888 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palate is usually a metaphor for a person's perferences about food or drink.
< 1456105960 251310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456105978 182466 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/perf/pref/' wisdom/palate
< 1456105981 212808 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456106010 169379 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well let me know if I should go back and remove a category.
< 1456106050 173791 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'll bring them up here before adding them, if I ever see the need to make them again.
< 1456106069 230915 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the bringing up should in principle be on the wiki.
< 1456106132 32470 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm >half speaking for ais523 because he's too meek to protest anything that isn't clear vandalism.
< 1456106172 848618 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he got annoyed at one you added yesterday
< 1456106255 964704 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really manage to keep up with the wiki myself any longer.
< 1456106375 878915 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I only added two.
< 1456106398 247906 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1456106413 478406 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's either psudonatural or OISC.
< 1456106425 825680 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter of which I think I added today?
< 1456106447 622171 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was the former.  he didn't think it was an interesting category.
< 1456106450 129620 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm guessing neither meets his approval.
< 1456106466 847682 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he's probably not seen the latter yet.
< 1456106511 192561 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both were created because there was an uncategorized language that I wasn't sure how to otherwise classify.
< 1456106578 472223 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudonatural might largely be a subset of thematic
< 1456106592 552067 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think is an existing cat
< 1456106690 588144 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1456106898 845124 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fisherman's friend
< 1456106899 594470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fisherman's friend? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456106916 572440 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn fisherman's friend/Fisherman's Friend is the friend of the palate that is more sore than discerning.
< 1456106918 955286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «fisherman's friend»
< 1456107214 85440 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456107628 426068 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell halycon  Specifically, I am wonder how (if possible) you can create a combinator from (P->Q)->((Q->R)->(P->R)) akin to S. <-- that's the type of \f g x -> g (f x), aka CB.
< 1456107628 583782 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456107679 649872 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (p->q)->((q->r)->(p->r))
< 1456107679 838395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b c = b (a c)
< 1456107708 644265 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell halcyon Try @djinn (p->q)->((q->r)->(p->r)) in lambdabot
< 1456107708 801978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456107881 686905 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan thanks oerjan! So it is possible!
< 1456107881 845124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456107976 674462 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. in general any intuitionistic theorem has a curry-howard equivalent combinator.
< 1456108099 187274 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any exceptions?
< 1456108170 68001 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or lambda term.  depends on your exact definitions, but if a logic has a curry-howard correspondence, then that's part of what that means.
< 1456108185 460388 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1456108686 71887 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :halycon: also, when excluding pierce's law it looks like you have the combinators K and CB, which is not enough.  a common alternative basis without S is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B,_C,_K,_W_system
< 1456108719 429474 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for intuitionistic PC)
< 1456108798 801117 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how were you able to test (or know) that K and CB was not sufficient?
< 1456108822 966932 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's part of BCKW and missing W, so ...
< 1456108833 97979 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh
< 1456108843 32631 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CB is C applied to B :P
< 1456108848 549074 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456108904 405004 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, W is the only one of them that allows duplicating a variable.
< 1456108920 705081 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while K is the only one that allows removing one)
< 1456108953 25187 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456109015 480 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I've got some reading to do, thank you much :)
< 1456109022 767204 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome
< 1456109627 168214 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/hyperbolic geometry
< 1456109632 466184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan hppavilion[1]
< 1456109645 163435 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1456109657 850845 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hyperbolic geometry
< 1456109658 956630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperbolic Geometry is geometry that is exaggerated to the point of absurdity.
< 1456109696 300017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that's weird why did b_jonas get an empty answer
< 1456109705 786277 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom hyperbolic
< 1456109707 490396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbolic group/Hyperbolic groups are the best groups there are, they're totally awesome and cure cancer.
< 1456109714 652613 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom hyperbolic geometry
< 1456109716 87899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbolic geometry/Hyperbolic Geometry is geometry that is exaggerated to the point of absurdity.
< 1456109756 621441 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode hyperbolic geometry/
< 1456109757 626599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0068 LATIN SMALL LETTER H] [U+0079 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y] [U+0070 LATIN SMALL LETTER P] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0062 LATIN SMALL LETTER B] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0067 LATIN SMALL LETTER G] [U
< 1456109770 546489 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode geometry/
< 1456109771 330128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0067 LATIN SMALL LETTER G] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006D LATIN SMALL LETTER M] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0079 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y] [U+002F SOLIDUS]
< 1456109783 722365 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1456109888 524527 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom
< 1456109889 275236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1456109931 676539 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl
< 1456109932 320743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'
< 1456109994 892200 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there was a very precise timeout.
< 1456111300 291637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did play the Dungeons&Dragons game today. Now you have to guess before I write it down and afterward you can check and see if you guessed correctly or not.
< 1456111300 507888 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456111545 321435 :yorick__!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456112866 214562 :jaboja!~jaboja@emj59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1456113912 47255 :yorick__!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456113912 205556 :yorick__!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host
< 1456113912 205630 :yorick__!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456113925 831272 :jaboja!~jaboja@emj59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456114609 470277 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456114736 885361 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host
< 1456114737 43293 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456114742 215783 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod
< 1456114759 290013 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456114760 975354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wecome/wecome in pece.
< 1456114763 482213 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456114766 935475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zimbabwe/olsner's desk points zimbabwards. it is highly dependent on tswett's michiganic orientation.
< 1456114779 376074 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456114780 729803 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mojibake/mojibake _ÌÌÌ°_ÌÌ̦̻ͭͭͬÌÍÌÌÍ¡_ͧÍÌÍÌ­_ÍÍÍͧÍÌÌ̯Í̬̬̦̯_ÌÌÌͨÌÌ´Í
< 1456114791 990404 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456114793 191860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :el camino real/There is no royal road to analytic geometry.
< 1456114802 360886 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456114803 664065 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hovercraft/a-é-ro-g-liss-e-ur. If you mention eels, you'll get smacked with one of them in a most unappropriate manner.
< 1456114829 652118 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456114832 468673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language.
< 1456114876 924674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many letters of Arabic alphabets are also name of programming languages?
< 1456114887 456217 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Quit: Viivan loppu.
< 1456114896 290312 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456116181 178470 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Eel try to avoid that, then.
< 1456116278 424851 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not directly comparable since programming languages are not frequently named in Arabic. even Arabic languages have English names.
< 1456116299 576569 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ج seems to be one example, though (http://www.jeemlang.com/)
< 1456116667 515304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456116690 964065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many programming languages are named by Egyptian alphabets?
< 1456116717 834512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually I know Egyptian writing is more complicated than that)
< 1456116750 184289 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will be never sure.
< 1456117313 697766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 75
< 1456117314 414562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 75: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex
< 1456117703 468308 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456117967 941872 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn mojibake/_ÌÌÌ°_ÌÌ̦̻ͭͭͬÌÍÌÌÍ¡_ͧÍÌÍÌ­_ÍÍÍͧÍÌÌ̯Í̬̬̦̯_ÌÌÌͨÌÌ´Í
< 1456117970 155504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «mojibake»
< 1456117972 42857 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better
< 1456117985 465697 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the fact that "mojibake" properly rendered was bugging me)
< 1456118068 822477 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ASCII-compatible encoding, so it's fine
< 1456118101 444363 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, but then why is the rest the way it is?
< 1456118114 246866 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: What text was in there that led to it being rendered as such?
< 1456118120 765589 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :native letters!
< 1456118138 430480 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Why are there so many of that one character in a row?
< 1456118174 437772 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: japanese characters do not use spaces (normally).
< 1456118201 888809 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: And?
< 1456118216 505664 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Why does that particular character appear?
< 1456118249 777483 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And its mirror
< 1456118254 925661 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you asking for the mechanics of mojibake? :)
< 1456118267 82070 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I understand mojibake
< 1456118330 126134 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine some text like "mojibake（文字化け）とは、コンピュータで文字を表示する際に、正しく表示されない現象のこと。"
< 1456118364 294226 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Clearly you can do more than imagine it; you can send it via IRC
< 1456118388 557361 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ah, so you are wondering about the (real) original text for that sentence
< 1456118391 561535 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1456118502 354266 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-JIS gives the first byte of two-byte character only a few possibilities, and Ì is a pretty common one (when you reinterpret it as Latin-1).
< 1456119063 997984 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456119443 656738 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456119579 828638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will they add -ntsc and +ntsc commands into ImageMagick and/or GraphicsMagick?
< 1456120117 39544 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456121270 64350 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that there are much better algorithms to compute the factorial of a number than repeated multiplication?   http://www.luschny.de/math/factorial/FastFactorialFunctions.htm
< 1456122128 835999 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456122147 674257 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]!
< 1456122223 787077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, there are? Let me see
< 1456122245 436968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can see
< 1456122659 810569 :jaboja!~jaboja@emj59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
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< 1456124533 173275 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye
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< 1456125809 452171 :skamath!0e8bbb82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.187.130 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456125893 386469 :skamath!0e8bbb82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.187.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, can anyone help me identify this : http://pastebin.com/yMBF5tB5
< 1456125938 8050 :jaboja!~jaboja@emj59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456126455 372532 :skamath!0e8bbb82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.187.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone?
< 1456126643 839873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:OISC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46454&oldid=46453 5* 03Keymaker 5* (-1) 10Fixed 2 typos.
< 1456126769 613470 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456126846 567348 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like ookless ook
< 1456126867 811657 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456126877 535259 :skamath!0e8bbb82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.187.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: come again?
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< 1456127094 217265 :skamath!0e8bbb82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.187.130 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
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< 1456127362 98570 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
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< 1456128694 383226 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456129257 3812 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456129606 59797 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-57-201.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1456130213 138252 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.
< 1456130296 579319 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1456131800 610386 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!
< 1456131928 104969 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::
< 1456132936 439790 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456133098 778892 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;
< 1456133195 413429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is the weird one
< 1456133210 321482 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: What's the context?
< 1456133242 615560 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456133378 998863 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456133497 89215 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: What's weird about :?
< 1456133534 406206 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Ook. Ook? Ook!
< 1456133541 566766 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Ah?
< 1456133614 836321 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Actually, I... don't get it
< 1456133650 941981 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the first three punctuations are used for Ook! language. since I was out of letters, I went with an arbitrary punctuation
< 1456133669 744946 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: OK...
< 1456133671 566438 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, myname may refer to the fact that : is not a sentence terminator)
< 1456133674 915715 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: In what?
< 1456133684 205931 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot end a sentence with a colon:
< 1456133684 658850 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Is this a language?
< 1456133686 173716 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see.
< 1456133687 795384 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook++?
< 1456133696 205704 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Ook!
< 1456133718 382950 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, but what does : have to do with this?
< 1456133737 933722 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ! ? are all used so I went with an arbitrary letter
< 1456133746 902401 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: For what?
< 1456133759 821592 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You went with an arbitrary letter for what?
< 1456133760 277978 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, a series of... single letter conversations?
< 1456133765 492107 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Oh?
< 1456133769 884718 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456133770 448530 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: for the same reason Ou used a ;
< 1456133772 613892 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a joking
< 1456133778 608266 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK
< 1456133785 872544 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was confusing because I joined at the end
< 1456133945 804690 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456134085 226751 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sugar
< 1456134090 687473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? syntax
< 1456134091 296508 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456134092 283708 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? syntactic
< 1456134094 139327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? syntactic sugar
< 1456134100 592392 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456134125 385310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntactic sugar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456134133 261913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntactic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456134133 462340 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax is just a subset of grammar.
< 1456134133 620763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sugar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456134139 66846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname "*synta[cx]*" -o -iname "*sugar*"
< 1456134141 67493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/syntax
< 1456134175 922310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn syntactic sugar/Syntactic sugar causes semicolon cancer
< 1456134178 423423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «syntactic sugar»
< 1456134186 115482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn syntactic sugar/Syntactic sugar causes semicolon cancer.
< 1456134188 262417 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «syntactic sugar»
< 1456134290 454787 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.
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< 1456135361 116470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:GermanyBoy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46455&oldid=41610 5* 03GermanyBoy 5* (+136) 10added röda
< 1456135496 945119 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46456&oldid=46343 5* 03GermanyBoy 5* (+145) 10/* Röda */ added section
< 1456135608 288845 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456135611 426901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? surströmming
< 1456135612 625919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surströmming? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456135626 637451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname "*rstr*"
< 1456135627 688020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
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< 1456140960 18996 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1456140960 176765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
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< 1456141235 84474 :zgrep_!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk NICK :zgrep
< 1456141250 362805 :Xe!xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1456143373 161547 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about quiet massages?
< 1456143501 799530 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-quiet
< 1456143501 994971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1456143571 561037 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ANIMISTIC CHICKEN
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< 1456144426 776813 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOP ᴮᴼᴼᴾ BOOP ᴮᴼᴼᴾ
< 1456144441 368226 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᴮᴼᴼᴾ
< 1456144451 977155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1D2E MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL B] [U+1D3C MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL O] [U+1D3C MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL O] [U+1D3E MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL P]
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< 1456146197 969902 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A capital idea
< 1456146275 577464 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am impressed how people have no shame in calling themself GermanyBoy
< 1456146480 21118 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, same
< 1456146615 592911 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-135.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456147282 212171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the fact that Vienna and Bratislava are less than 40 miles apart annoying me so much
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< 1456147439 240735 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's simply a side effect of both of them being close to Budapest and to the Danube
< 1456147555 845585 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456147715 218795 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, they're both... well, closer to Budapest than I am to any capital city, but Ezstergom is closer
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< 1456153485 551219 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456153620 965243 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456154895 763595 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show ook
< 1456154897 805992 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl (sending via DCC)
< 1456154954 182405 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that doesn't work for this.
< 1456155538 635083 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456155683 872348 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456155765 28727 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e4ca:743b:469b:52b2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456156042 75818 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456156139 867347 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? syntactic sugar
< 1456156145 924410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntactic sugar causes semicolon cancer.
< 1456156252 631617 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname "*super*"
< 1456156253 778721 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/supermarionation \ wisdom/superexponential growth \ wisdom/superduperexponential growth \ wisdom/superduperinteressantesandersonnegelegenesdorfmitoderohnesahneistunsdabeiabsolutscheissegal \ wisdom/supermarioperator \ wisdom/supercalifragilisticexponential growth
< 1456156284 717766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? supermarioperator
< 1456156285 632302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle.
< 1456156316 770845 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1456156321 535599 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a thing?
< 1456156348 952858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname "*lar*"
< 1456156349 971693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/selamlar
< 1456156411 151085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the actual fuck
< 1456156442 292796 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there is a <<
< 1456156594 814427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46457&oldid=46456 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1) 10On the one hand, someone cannot read. On the other hand, it's better after the section header anyway.
< 1456157016 816800 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Control.Plumbers.Monad
< 1456157024 736716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :package MonadCatchIO-mtl
< 1456157024 894552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :package MonadCatchIO-mtl-foreign
< 1456157024 894653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :package MonadCatchIO-transformers
< 1456157036 294361 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go.
< 1456157136 391753 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? superduperinteressantesandersonnegelegenesdorfmitoderohnesahneistunsdabeiabsolutscheissegal
< 1456157139 682704 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superduperinteressantesandersonnegelegenesdorfmitoderohnesahneistunsdabeiabsolutscheissegal is where mroman lives.
< 1456157217 80213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname "*ego*"
< 1456157218 68901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/monoidal category \ wisdom/oregon \ wisdom/hackego \ wisdom/category \ wisdom/categorical product \ wisdom/category theory \ wisdom/something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom \ wisdom/gregor \ wisdom/bicategory \ wisdom/egobot \ wisdom/category-helpdesk
< 1456158049 666637 :earendel!~anuska@176.2.137.137 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456158202 644078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname "*ball*"
< 1456158203 593691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456158320 689729 :earendel!~anuska@176.2.137.137 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456158713 179059 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later
< 1456158797 72849 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? superduperinteressantesandersonnegelegenesdorfmitoderohnesahneistunsdabeiabsolutscheissegal
< 1456158798 558947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superduperinteressantesandersonnegelegenesdorfmitoderohnesahneistunsdabeiabsolutscheissegal is where mroman lives.
< 1456158804 926613 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good
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< 1456168536 880597 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://v1.std3.ru/71/b7/1450110575-71b77b2bd06f431f2bd0b4abb983738f.gif
< 1456168649 701248 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456169508 174828 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know where I might find an archive or fj.binaries.msdos? I haven't found anything by Googling :-(
< 1456169555 892379 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1456169639 113462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do HoTT people have to keep going on about how it's the second coming of maths jesus :/
< 1456169706 773800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had idea, I can invent a new kind of computer puzzle game, a bit like Hero Mesh but it is Linux and many differences, such as some of the design of Hero Mesh is badly designed, so I would do it in the better way. Also you can examine any tile by clicking on it so that nothing is hidden. What is your opinion of this so far?
< 1456169717 565131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I do not know the answer of either of your two questions)
< 1456169815 701601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably also to avoid animation (at least at first), and to ensure that keys such as shift/ctrl/alt/capslock/numlock are not game commands
< 1456170185 95668 :earendel!~anuska@176.2.137.137 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1456171676 967527 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have lazy-evaluated sequences, but not lazy-evaluated trees
< 1456171689 477670 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazyevtree.next(n)
< 1456171731 830611 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456171764 517619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or lazy-evaluated trees
< 1456171768 121849 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or lazy-evaluated matrices
< 1456171775 139827 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/trees/graphs/
< 1456171945 616243 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is "we"?
< 1456171965 9274 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell has these
< 1456171995 356415 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Programmers
< 1456171996 928211 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Oh
< 1456171998 208602 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right
< 1456172033 625800 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite trees? no problem
< 1456172055 744018 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: We have lambda but not thetas?
< 1456172063 35383 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lambda/lambdas/
< 1456172068 181779 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456172072 681203 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rhos
< 1456172084 439278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should they do?
< 1456172086 514853 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rhos being based on the rho-calculus
< 1456172095 912018 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I don't know, what's the rho-calculus like?
< 1456172131 866956 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I guess a rho is something you can term rewrite
< 1456172188 990292 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rho x y z: x+y*z
< 1456172194 252241 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(python syntax)
< 1456172235 997398 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it different than lambda x y z: x+y*z?
< 1456172248 937325 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: A rho is based on term rewriting
< 1456172254 515169 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: or something
< 1456172263 410690 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... #define?
< 1456172268 924365 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That doesn't produce a function; it produces a rewritable
< 1456172291 778874 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, perhaps (I don't know much about rho-calculus OR the C preprocessor), but as a builtin language construct.
< 1456172353 841284 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rho x y z -> x*(y+z)).distribute() produces a rho x y z -> x*y+x*z
< 1456172357 503810 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe
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< 1456172556 108679 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, that's completely wrong
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< 1456172576 511372 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456172600 766317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is part of document of my idea of "Universal Terminal Character Encoding":  http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/utce
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< 1456172723 238073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that it includes many characters not available in Unicode, although a conversion from Unicode will also be lossy.
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< 1456172813 294189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, for simplicity, there is no right-to-left nor any complex scripts; it is designed to be simple but also elaborate.
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< 1456174990 49543 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Also, pis, based on the pi calculus. Anonymous threads, basically.
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< 1456175751 570049 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1456175764 950727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ring the obell for @1025
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< 1456175779 652776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you should do it hth
< 1456175792 871560 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obell?
< 1456175811 602321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? obell
< 1456175830 107849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obell? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456175838 381355 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: the obell is what we ring each time a new strip of the o webcomic is published
< 1456175845 941057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1025
< 1456175847 683997 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1456175848 896293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1025: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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< 1456175879 771847 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The obell is what we ring each time a new strip of the o webcomic is published.
< 1456175883 486506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'obell': The obell is what we ring each time a new strip of the o webcomic is published.
< 1456175922 661612 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1456175940 717214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlhi
< 1456175946 150217 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, as a followup question, where do I read this webcomic?
< 1456175958 947301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olist
< 1456175961 186667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html
< 1456175967 454464 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that o
< 1456176064 853823 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachafton
< 1456176077 57305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1456176108 838181 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/afton
< 1456176117 406477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456176127 793930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's only 13:22
< 1456176132 201229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like shachafternoon
< 1456176157 591902 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's 22:22
< 1456176171 792010 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's 16:22
< 1456176229 89711 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bordering on shachväll
< 1456176235 4061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner
< 1456176235 952155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry.
< 1456176252 838086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaftermiddag
< 1456176362 115858 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all the different quote conventions are the most interesting part of that entry.
< 1456176400 898028 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fentimans
< 1456176402 263311 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack.
< 1456176469 113082 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't had any Fentimans in months
< 1456176548 427295 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? benchmarks
< 1456176551 176667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :benchmarks? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1456176572 932594 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote benchmarks
< 1456176573 621493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :665)  Benchmarks are only a good measure of surprise
< 1456176576 542431 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it is
< 1456176768 964499 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: different quoting styles reminds me to http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2014-07-08.2212.html which asks what style of quotation marks to use when you quote text from a different language than the main text.
< 1456176806 962600 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456176871 354720 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should all just adopt the perl convention. Q is underused, anyway
< 1456176888 803906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is that carbonated?
< 1456176895 933119 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: generally
< 1456176899 477344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow
< 1456176903 579306 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, as I prefer to think of it: under*utilized*
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< 1456176953 117932 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek the bug workaround for pine in tmux broke irssi instead...
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< 1456176968 101435 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, dear
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< 1456177889 129244 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :nothing
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< 1456177912 199899 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: they upgraded fedora on the server i use for mail and irssi, which includes a buggy version of tmux that breaks reverse video, but not irssi.  the simplest fix (while waiting for the actual tmux bugfix) is to set TERM=xterm instead of TERM=screen inside tmux, but that breaks irssi instead...
< 1456177961 818409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: use a better server hth
< 1456177974 341456 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm playing around with shell and tmux config
< 1456178010 758362 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but but it's my 24 year old email account
< 1456178037 264095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you run an irc client on your email account
< 1456178060 828448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 24 is a lot of years
< 1456178063 4867 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this is a computer club, so the admin who answered suggested _i_ build tmux with the patch for them.
< 1456178071 518284 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1456178077 723897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did email even exist 24 years ago
< 1456178083 21317 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1456178086 147230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anything exist
< 1456178088 659447 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1456178097 159241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with oerjan
< 1456178104 623737 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly it was all faked last thursday.
< 1456178109 683387 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, I existed 24 years ago
< 1456178121 142519 :earendel!~anuska@176.2.68.111 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456178122 889649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even have photos of me and my family from back then
< 1456178133 29621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :photoshop
< 1456178146 568935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 years is almost a quarter of a century
< 1456178154 434896 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so?
< 1456178166 19616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's way too long a time span for anything
< 1456178182 822257 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :people live longer than that
< 1456178195 769968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they say
< 1456178214 918657 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do.
< 1456178233 117450 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are talking about Earth years, right?
< 1456178263 521122 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you a veetan by any chance
< 1456178286 823659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? veetan
< 1456178287 327071 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they can live to 25
< 1456178287 983008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :veetan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456178356 123237 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Veetans are a race of cuddly, yet sturdy aliens in the Drive comic.
< 1456178358 710948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'veetan': Veetans are a race of cuddly, yet sturdy aliens in the Drive comic.
< 1456178387 736881 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the drive comic
< 1456178391 264557 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Veetans are a race of cuddly, yet sturdy aliens in the Drive comic. Their maximum lifespan is 25 years, but they use it well.
< 1456178393 989571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'veetan': Veetans are a race of cuddly, yet sturdy aliens in the Drive comic. Their maximum lifespan is 25 years, but they use it well.
< 1456178396 451648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is that what dlist is about?
< 1456178402 996351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a prolog thing
< 1456178407 125973 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm not that i know of
< 1456178424 718494 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not irregular enough for a list, any more.
< 1456178443 959634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 is a lot of years
< 1456178500 506791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't demonstrate a magic talent by that age you get exiled, i think
< 1456178517 158164 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could find a quote on that, if the drive website didn't have the worst archive system _ever_.
< 1456178547 771648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :drive, hmm
< 1456178548 680151 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think veetans are magic much.
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< 1456178621 347668 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries via google, again

< 1456178634 859290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is magic
< 1456178638 939515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? google
< 1456178640 59287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem.
< 1456178657 881627 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... that did not help at all
< 1456178698 84018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/google
< 1456178702 945481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett
< 1456178727 776013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: did you go to that google class where they tell you how search works
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< 1456178898 677371 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ohnorobot has it
< 1456178940 88831 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, it doesn't, it's from before the comic moved.
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< 1456179543 889888 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally http://www.drivecomic.com/archive/100731.html
< 1456179607 957345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 years is a long time
< 1456179648 744025 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :100731 is scary
< 1456179696 947261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"drive is ad-free, thanks to reader support. click to back the strip on patreon!"
< 1456179714 214046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think ad-free means what you think it means hth
< 1456179733 270482 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i pick up a new webcomic if i have to read 100000 past issues?
< 1456179759 50878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read olist.
< 1456179777 825899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: just start reading... bookmark the latest comic you've read... you'll catch up eventually
< 1456179791 527135 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think that is the worst problem with the site hth
< 1456179805 18492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: or spend an extended weekend...
< 1456179827 733875 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: sadly, it's just the date
< 1456179828 369539 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: also you're exaggerating
< 1456179844 908460 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i?
< 1456179876 970884 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what moron uses that date format
< 1456179878 272854 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the date url scheme is just one part of why the site is almost completely unnavigable
< 1456179899 629369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps this channel is inhabited entirely by veetans
< 1456179901 253479 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if updates were completely regular, it would work, but they haven't been)
< 1456179903 916593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for oerjan
< 1456179945 291928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it looks like a weekly, maybe twice a week, comic that has been around for 6 1/2 years
< 1456179971 479557 :S1!~S1FeHa@77-64-236-225.dynamic.primacom.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456179973 134715 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i have frequent, but so far overcome desires to register on disqus just to tell the author to fire his website programmers.
< 1456180067 736454 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's twice a week now, one main comic and one guest comic.  but it has been far more rare, and had essentially a year of hiatus while kellett worked on a film project.
< 1456180107 604841 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that year, there was a "look at the last year of comics" menu that sort of worked.
< 1456180107 833590 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's fine, I was looking for an upper bound on the number of issues
< 1456180169 858110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I wouldn't complain about the URL scheme. I would complain about the lack of navigation beyond "next" and "prev".
< 1456180251 227519 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well the url scheme is such that you cannot hack around the lack of navigation, because together with the frequent hiatuses in the middle of the run, it is completely unpredictable which dates have comics
< 1456180296 15780 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it _is_ part of the problem, although wouldn't be a good solution alone.
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< 1456180312 813743 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw I have that problem with GG as well... though one can usually hit a comic in at most 3 tries (using a calendar would be too tedious ;-) )
< 1456180320 213636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.drivecomic.com/archive/random is all the navigation you need hth
< 1456180328 19441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, where did the http:// go
< 1456180354 829936 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: GG has a menu of story arcs, from which you can start jumping by weeks.
< 1456180384 394953 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as good as a list of every comic, but infinitely better than what drive has.
< 1456180506 274975 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately, things have gotten even more insane, as kellett has started moving the guest comic arcs in the sequence once they're finished, apparently by _swapping_ url contents
< 1456180513 505044 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking absolutely all links
< 1456180523 246415 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the comment threads
< 1456180713 197668 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a working random link?
< 1456180731 203986 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: see if you can find a working list of comics link twh
< 1456180746 205843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows what else is hidden in /archive 
< 1456180788 712434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.drivecomic.com/archive/archives.html hth
< 1456180828 846518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, did you want more than a year?
< 1456180846 510574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.drivecomic.com/archive/archives.html hth
< 1456180879 226926 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh that still exists? it was removed from the main page, of course.
< 1456180884 323764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, if you look at the historical archives, there's a search box
< 1456180891 515704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's gone from the real archives
< 1456180939 665736 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bookmarks

< 1456181148 711162 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah yes, at one time there was a button to suggest list transcriptions, which that box probably used, and which no one actually made
< 1456181163 345406 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strip transcriptions
< 1456181216 65384 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, a slightly broken system bit rotted until it was just removed.
< 1456181335 197985 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from other hints, presumably on a "no one has a clue how it _should_ work" basis.
< 1456181390 340571 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
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< 1456181586 826770 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : why do HoTT people have to keep going on about how it's the second coming of maths jesus :/ <-- presumably it hasn't yet been used thoroughly enough for experience to enforce a reality check
< 1456181642 196861 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :every new idea is a panacea until proven otherwise.
< 1456181723 190400 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Panamean Panacea Manna.
< 1456182185 114178 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :heddwchfart
< 1456182214 141739 :heddwchfart!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :hydraz
< 1456182299 479426 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydraz: hellodraz. welsh?
< 1456182312 716712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hi
< 1456182338 984384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "poisson deux" mean "fish two" or "two fish" twh
< 1456182375 449498 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suspects the former

< 1456182400 141585 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Negative, joke on another channel.
< 1456182451 671088 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually if it were two fish, it should be poissons...
< 1456182453 168032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. it's the former.
< 1456182492 571790 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“two fish” is «deux poissons». «poisson deux» sounds like you are counting them: «poisson un, poisson deux, poisson trois...»
< 1456182515 323815 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more normally, «premier poisson, deuxième poisson, troisième poisson...»
< 1456182534 727681 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wpa-6-314.cc.umanitoba.ca QUIT :Quit: Leaving
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< 1456182586 139787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you switched from pooches over to fish?
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< 1456182995 455587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :premier pooch!
< 1456183011 193221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :premier cabot
< 1456183036 124323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was looking at the title of _One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish_ in French.
< 1456183040 221286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They pull a fast one.
< 1456183472 63270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : or more normally, «premier poisson, deuxième poisson, troisième poisson...»
< 1456183495 540023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :'fish one, fish two, ...' in english would be using the nominal case, not ordinal
< 1456183524 611579 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456184558 84131 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one shachaf, two sachafayim, three shachafes, four shachafen...
< 1456184585 699575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1456184621 759598 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conjugating shachaf if hard. let's poutine.
< 1456184624 614783 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/if/is/
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< 1456184726 403619 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1456184740 739305 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenito alejandro12 
< 1456184749 853599 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ablan espa�ol
< 1456184756 915512 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1456184761 92394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenito: not found
< 1456184764 406689 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1456184815 648577 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido alejandro12 
< 1456184822 19607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alejandro12: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.)
< 1456184866 215669 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm ok 
< 1456184877 394990 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.)
< 1456184882 280343 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esto es un grupo
< 1456185166 461485 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :esto es #esoteric en Freenode
< 1456185239 133164 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye this group is bored are very seriousGoogle Traductor para empresas:Translator ToolkitTraductor de sitios webGlobal Market Finder 
< 1456185280 915886 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye this group is bored are very serious
< 1456185309 161455 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456185329 464437 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Do you have any clue what that half-word Haskell thing means?
< 1456185393 816811 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of the paths to true eso is to make something first-class that is never first-class
< 1456185407 471293 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what half-word haskell thing
< 1456185439 102478 :alejandro12!~canaima@190.77.157.16 PART :#esoteric
< 1456185439 299476 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sounds like a good plan
< 1456185453 37504 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It was said last time I was online
< 1456185458 317832 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google
< 1456185459 14036 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google what?
< 1456185467 141694 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? google
< 1456185468 82426 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem.
< 1456185470 946482 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That
< 1456185471 137867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/15.12.19
< 1456185484 80742 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The real question is just /what/ to make first-class
< 1456185495 375560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make making things first-class first-class hth
< 1456185505 347596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reify reification
< 1456185522 48333 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should use codu then you can point at individual lines hth
< 1456185529 429727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: codu doesn't have logs for that day hth
< 1456185538 587702 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1456185544 188118 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did think of that xD
< 1456185616 242577 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh so it's from tswett's network
< 1456185640 720283 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did think of rho expressions, which are like lambda expressions but based on the rho calculus
< 1456185657 225053 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname brought up #define when I mentioned it
< 1456185664 529965 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first-class preprocessing xD
< 1456185755 681803 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn last-class function/A last-class function is a function that cannot be passed as an argument, accept a function as an argument, be returned by a function, return a function, set to a variable other than its initial name, or be called
< 1456185758 791266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «last-class function»
< 1456185763 501124 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? last-class function
< 1456185764 617420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A last-class function is a function that cannot be passed as an argument, accept a function as an argument, be returned by a function, return a function, set to a variable other than its initial name, or be called
< 1456185785 579222 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:07:49  `learn integer/An integer is a number that does not contain a wildcard that matches any character other than a line feed.
< 1456185785 737490 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:07:50  ​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 3: wisdom/integer/an: No such file or directory \ Learned 'integer/an': integer/An integer is a number that does not contain a wildcard that matches any character other than a line feed.
< 1456185794 150400 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My network is getting really good at remembering long phrases.
< 1456185845 596927 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: clearly today's xkcd is relevant.
< 1456185853 912109 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa!
< 1456185928 175406 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/. It can, however, be pointed at, derisively./' wisdom/'last-class function'
< 1456185930 272985 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456185937 155062 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? last-class function
< 1456185938 322518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A last-class function is a function that cannot be passed as an argument, accept a function as an argument, be returned by a function, return a function, set to a variable other than its initial name, or be called. It can, however, be pointed at, derisively.
< 1456185948 276301 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: derisively?
< 1456185957 949607 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mispel that
< 1456185974 305818 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1456185985 123116 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Never heard that word
< 1456185987 920799 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you now, like the higher classes point at the lower
< 1456185996 692871 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah
< 1456186088 151928 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1456187352 578721 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungone
< 1456187361 353038 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1456187368 126346 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mourn fungot
< 1456187368 817909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, poor fungot, I knew him well!
< 1456189298 995164 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456189473 694488 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
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< 1456193690 666420 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Latezzz
< 1456194527 484675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456194573 887819 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I haven't.
< 1456195047 184396 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456195403 689263 :andrew!~andrew@119.137.85.96 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456195427 624950 :adu!~ajr@73.133.129.229 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456195457 639898 :adu!~ajr@73.133.129.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: NOOOOOOOO
< 1456195473 514797 :adu!~ajr@73.133.129.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I mean YEEEEEEEEEEES
< 1456196755 360084 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456199786 296092 :andrew!~andrew@119.137.85.96 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456200528 588377 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey
< 1456200532 232464 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwfweckeizqkacmo JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456200690 64341 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1456200746 315933 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mourn
< 1456200749 749438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "Alas, poor $@, I knew him well!"
< 1456200758 319274 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. That's boring. :(
< 1456200938 994006 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bin
< 1456200940 442315 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/bin: No such file or directory
< 1456200953 563803 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bin/bin
< 1456200954 284167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/bin/bin: No such file or directory
< 1456200959 569505 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /secret
< 1456200960 320243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /secret: No such file or directory
< 1456200967 842141 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/secret
< 1456200968 526191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/secret: No such file or directory
< 1456200977 474116 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/supersecret
< 1456200978 114328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/supersecret: No such file or directory
< 1456200982 872706 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm ut of dieas.
< 1456200989 144044 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*out of ideas
< 1456201114 889426 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find / -name '*secret*'
< 1456201145 688685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ipfrag_secret_interval \ /proc/sys/net/ipv6/ip6frag_secret_interval \ find: `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fdinfo': Per
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< 1456203489 288189 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you played mage knight?
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< 1456203562 169737 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find / -name '*secret*' > secret.txt
< 1456203576 178502 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery fs
< 1456203600 285568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/2/task/2/fd': Permissi
< 1456203602 182024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File system. HackEgo/HackBot's is http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi
< 1456203665 760298 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/8a87b4c82f52/secret.txt
< 1456203839 774485 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url secret.txt
< 1456203840 999132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/secret.txt
< 1456203843 935260 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1456203865 729416 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there probably should be a thing for the permanent version of the latest URL...
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< 1456204886 411879 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word
< 1456204887 222535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :candroii
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< 1456205000 709912 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word
< 1456205001 411980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vheta
< 1456205014 780443 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes fake words.
< 1456205014 938095 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Where does HackEgo get his wordlist?
< 1456205020 867297 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456205023 573210 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrgighsuzwhersgk PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/a4e2b9749d1d/bin/word
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< 1456211459 705397 :earendel!~earendel@176.4.34.166 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456212191 592990 :earendel!~earendel@176.4.34.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these numbers @word.. is this some kind of probability of occurence for that syllables?
< 1456212317 773660 :earendel!~earendel@176.4.34.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how have is this association there "happened"?
< 1456213021 827169 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they're weights; a random number is chosen from their sum
< 1456213241 294379 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream
< 1456213279 644724 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're presumably generated from lots of input text, counting up how often 'th' is followed by 'w' etc.
< 1456213795 166926 :earendel!~earendel@176.4.34.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1456214141 153468 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_chain#Markov_text_generators 
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< 1456217871 733312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -we "warn 4.5+6.3"
< 1456217875 330194 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1456217879 421011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useless use of a constant (warn 4.5+6.3) in void context at -e line 1.
< 1456217881 397935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -we warn 4.5+6.3
< 1456217884 64962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.8 at -e line 1.
< 1456217886 117979 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better
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< 1456224278 702077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're generated from word lists, actually.
< 1456224345 472644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is probably subtly different from generating them from lots of input text, since it presumably has a higher weight for more uncommon trigrams (or 4-grams or whatever they were).
< 1456224389 191586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same procedure fungot uses, except fungot does words, and it uses a variable-length model generated by https://github.com/vsiivola/variKN
< 1456224395 437632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh.
< 1456224407 510785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, the internet gave up at night.
< 1456224434 878794 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456224442 806731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Feeling all right there? 
< 1456224443 3370 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they don't ever define " fnord" is invalid? the line does ( which is useful
< 1456224461 478209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All subsystems nominal, I guess.
< 1456224540 830811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456224562 278053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, new sort of spam I've never seen before
< 1456224594 115677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's piggybacking on other spam in an unusual way: it suggests that if we download a particular mobile app, it'll cause one category of spam to stop arriving
< 1456224641 54569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically trying to position itself as an opt-out, in a way that's fairly suspicious to people who are aware of computers, but it seems likely to fool some people
< 1456226793 69348 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456226822 794512 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1456226823 5297 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1456226902 40879 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, ais
< 1456226941 490776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, many spam does that in a much more straightforward way: they include a link to "unsubscribe" from that very spam.
< 1456226961 43774 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I've heared of spam that talks about other spam
< 1456227057 280914 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: here's one example http://bendwavy.org/wp/?p=3416
< 1456227096 368301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's http://www.xkcd.com/810/
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< 1456228992 382291 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should nuke that /boot partition

< 1456229015 26319 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to merge partitions together?
< 1456229123 81621 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um, in what sense?
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< 1456229373 899613 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using ubuntu's default partition scheme, and /boot is way too small, always getting clogged by old kernels.
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< 1456229407 850753 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either there's a way to automatically remove old versions, or just take everything in /boot and put it in /.
< 1456229436 164641 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and make /boot disappear in a puff of Logic.)
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< 1456229945 957445 :benderpc_!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e4ca:743b:469b:52b2 NICK :bender|
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< 1456232847 645275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Addleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46458&oldid=20442 5* 0385.194.216.168 5* (+18) 10Added OISC category
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< 1456237787 669174 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloily
< 1456237839 422654 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck competition is tomorrow
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< 1456242081 705531 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ais523 is back
< 1456242095 346007 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :B-)
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< 1456242718 64249 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1456242722 519175 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the occult room
< 1456242735 596139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456242748 124963 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic and symbols
< 1456242755 281604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: :-(
< 1456242759 627596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome vanila
< 1456242765 26176 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks so much oerjan!!!!!!!!!!
< 1456242767 5751 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT IS IT
< 1456242776 34825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1456242777 950697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you're a regular but this seems like a suitably passive-aggressive response
< 1456242784 856052 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I wonder why we aren't celebrating?
< 1456242792 954355 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a new brainfuck hello world WORLD RECORD
< 1456242801 248900 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORLD RECORD
< 1456242801 248955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh!
< 1456242804 863434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was happy about the last one
< 1456242807 229187 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sould be all over the wiki
< 1456242807 387311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know about this one though
< 1456242813 448248 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a few weeks ago
< 1456242815 730918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of hello world is it printing and what principle does it use?
< 1456242827 734416 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me get the link you may have sen it already
< 1456242829 879963 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on codegolf
< 1456242831 218078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I might have celebrated it already then
< 1456242846 479823 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :principle?
< 1456242864 837696 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bf golf to print hello world should have a principle?
< 1456242864 995502 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, it did some clever trick about preparing the differences between chars across half the string
< 1456242870 961606 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it did!
< 1456242874 697905 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't just brute forced
< 1456242879 293547 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there was some bruting
< 1456242884 963205 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :invorlved in its creation
< 1456242928 822906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: in that case I've seen it ages ago and we've discussed it already
< 1456242949 815761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping someone had found a cleverer trick than transforming the left half of the hello world into the right half
< 1456242963 147615 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssorry
< 1456242969 107663 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt mean to get hopes up
< 1456242994 851838 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye
< 1456243043 161614 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/68494/6691 ?
< 1456243053 741127 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah!
< 1456243109 699463 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456243117 420363 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh h.y you know
< 1456243121 687455 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be up peoples street here
< 1456243127 224865 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you familiar with minikanren?
< 1456243132 600123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's mention it form http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck#Hello.2C_World.21 
< 1456243138 222831 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea!
< 1456243163 642127 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its this prolog like thing that can generate quines
< 1456243185 695734 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :from querying an interpreter like this: (eval q q)
< 1456243211 47327 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the question is why can't you do this in prolog (with occurs check and fair search)
< 1456243226 164950 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/prolog/comments/473hig/generating_scheme_quines_with_prolog/
< 1456243233 29966 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a link to all the code and stuff
< 1456243254 668606 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone could figure out what the secret is.. someone here could (but I coudln't...)
< 1456243332 658920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46459&oldid=46402 5* 03B jonas 5* (+180) 10/* Hello, World! */ golf
< 1456243336 127310 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even interesting to nayone i hope
< 1456243356 821494 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosetta seems to have only comma-less variants. What herecy!
< 1456243548 674310 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456243552 367848 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSFO
< 1456243553 339478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 231556Z 18003KT 10SM BKN200 11/10 A3008 RMK AO2 SLP185 T01060100 $
< 1456243567 708907 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :was anyone at all interested in that :S
< 1456243582 406140 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not exactly eso but its really cool imo
< 1456243617 282405 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: since you asked, yes, I was interested, I just have nothing to add...
< 1456243623 599039 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay!
< 1456243665 368754 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we found out the secret ingredient it could be aded to clue
< 1456243675 280059 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :myabe it already has it though
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< 1456245081 114155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill: are you OK?
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< 1456247022 56093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: zemhill seems to be in some sort of trouble
< 1456247037 316360 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its f ine
< 1456247041 18334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind the effect on the channel (it's going pretty slowly), but you might want to check to see if the server's doing OK
< 1456247259 839632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm.
< 1456247273 971932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it getting into this sort of state before.
< 1456247302 43487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see these messages in the console, but it's also trying to send "JOIN #esoteric" all the time.
< 1456247319 632164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's some sort of a bug in the IRC library I used. Last time I just restarted it to fix it.
< 1456247322 64276 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456247327 554131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will do the same again.
< 1456247337 330149 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456247343 952171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've known better than to write it in Ruby, I guess.
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< 1456250886 258881 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
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< 1456252586 652355 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Nearly every problem I ever had with Prolog was solved by generously sprinkling cuts around the place
< 1456252657 520088 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah
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< 1456256444 318214 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow
< 1456256468 998047 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those strange things Wrecan says in #1025 are a reference to something actually
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< 1456257306 595931 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow
< 1456257344 356560 :zyla!~zyla@185.56.175.154 PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.1.1"
< 1456257353 44369 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the "gentlest introduction to the ρ-calculus"
< 1456257358 336521 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea wtf is going on
< 1456257434 682526 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ρ-calculus?
< 1456257437 370533 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that pattern matching
< 1456257480 330164 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Yes
< 1456257556 250245 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I'm trying to figure out rho-expressions (analogous to lambda-expressions) for a LISP
< 1456257579 71394 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be fun to learn abuot
< 1456257583 430153 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill read it
< 1456257598 340632 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Do so, then explain it to me xD
< 1456257613 278532 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: This is the only introduction I could find: http://rho.loria.fr/data/rta2001.pdf
< 1456257777 938713 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456258835 254569 :MDream!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude
< 1456259047 338709 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: What's the reference?
< 1456259108 329197 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: ?
< 1456259140 666990 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: That site without the path should take you there, but it doesn't seem to have much
< 1456259175 834655 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I mean the reference in #1025
< 1456259210 354982 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: That was b_jonas who said that
< 1456259216 66366 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh
< 1456259221 785330 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, irssi has you both in the same color
< 1456259223 690193 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was unrelated to what I said
< 1456259228 8815 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Same question :)
< 1456259228 887776 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: It's fine
< 1456259326 322525 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Though I am now also reading that rho paper :D
< 1456259383 236735 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1456259389 557896 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Do you understand it at all?
< 1456259468 722960 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sort of looks like a weird extension of normal state machine productions, but I'm only on the second page. Embedding LC sounds promising, anyway
< 1456259519 617917 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: What would be the rho analogue to a lambda expression in a LISP?
< 1456259576 411317 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rho ...?)
< 1456259656 215625 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :rho rho rho of rank always equals one
< 1456259678 350976 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: OK...
< 1456259689 803815 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: rho rho rho your boat?
< 1456259748 242676 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456259753 212743 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a hacker song
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< 1456260061 71651 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\lam X . b seems to be just a rewrite rule X -> b. Maybe something like (defun rho (lhs rhs) (lambda lhs rhs))? So then conditionals look like (defun cond-rho (lhs rhs cond) ((rho lhs (rho 't rhs)) cond)
< 1456260065 769197 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that
< 1456260103 648513 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where we assume cond has already been normalized by strat
< 1456260296 694604 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew, but then I get to the examples, and of course it's not that simple
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< 1456260626 767320 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F3-540-45315-6_11
< 1456260629 413435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1456261703 351 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1456261723 311733 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering what branch of mathematics to base a proof assistant on- what prooftechnique(s) to use
< 1456261733 819967 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: You seem like a good person to ask
< 1456261735 526303 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456261749 481203 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :base it on typed lambda calculus
< 1456261750 453880 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A type theory, a logic, or what?
< 1456261760 939271 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Perhaps. Maybe I should make more than one?
< 1456261770 389757 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also Jbob
< 1456261772 614077 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little prover book
< 1456261780 113276 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a different sort of prover
< 1456261785 130741 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its for programs
< 1456261983 432128 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Perhaps I should make a proof assistant with strings as a primitive type?
< 1456261999 918128 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Perhaps even using (bit)strings for numbers, making them a derived type?
< 1456262030 133770 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any theorems in mind you want ot prove with it
< 1456262042 844436 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: No; just want to make one for the experience
< 1456262050 731284 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe develop it into something useful
< 1456262053 327153 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lud
< 1456262055 343642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique said 23m 46s ago: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F3-540-45315-6_11
< 1456262057 930684 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe set a goal
< 1456262074 437812 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick some slighlty nontrivial theorem you like
< 1456262075 771872 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Perhaps I should. What's a good theorem to start with with a known proof?
< 1456262078 499021 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make a prover that can prove it
< 1456262084 55426 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Pythagorean?
< 1456262167 553320 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: If I do the Pythagorean Theorem, I have lots of options for proofs
< 1456262181 159920 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I'm thinking of making more than one, each in a different niche
< 1456262190 993024 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of one overarching prover
< 1456262245 30071 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1456262253 122011 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo
< 1456262256 175832 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Or multiple mechanisms in one prover
< 1456262261 224347 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :a proof should be a polytime checkable object
< 1456262267 877871 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps
< 1456262273 371463 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you disagree
< 1456262277 718679 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haddnt even finished
< 1456262279 266834 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1456262281 355299 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not
< 1456262291 40075 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polynomial time is generally good
< 1456262304 829078 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So instead of perhaps, "Probably"
< 1456262321 437109 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: In fact, if it's NP, it hardly counts as a proof IMO
< 1456262326 652351 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456262335 68706 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :P = Proof, NP = Not a Proof
< 1456262335 478929 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: So what's your point
< 1456262337 247406 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1456262370 517100 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know
< 1456262377 102077 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the name of this..
< 1456262378 801839 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I probably don't
< 1456262384 70334 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok nvm
< 1456262406 519439 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I might thouh
< 1456262409 279743 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though
< 1456262546 231237 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I'm thinking of including multityping- a single value can be a member of more than one type
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< 1456262758 307075 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. 5 is NATURAL, WHOLE, INTEGER, REAL, COMPLEX, SPLIT, DUAL, GAUSS, SPLIT_GAUSS, DUAL_GAUSS
< 1456262767 814995 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe PRIME if I include it, but I probably won't
< 1456262808 250269 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: That's multityping
< 1456262811 346881 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Is it stupid?
< 1456262884 10145 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know
< 1456263008 564313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme has a numerical tower vaguely like that.
< 1456263107 677035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goes number ⊇ complex ⊇ real ⊇ rational ⊇ integer, approximately.
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< 1456263149 614921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For example, 3 is an integer. Therefore 3 is also a rational, a real, and a complex." (R5RS 6.2.1)
< 1456263211 91695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They're strict subtypes of the higher-level ones, though.)
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< 1456269934 87890 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a number that a complex isn't?
< 1456270021 869215 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaternions
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< 1456270912 971819 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456270929 349063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category theory/In category theory, category theory is a theory in the category of theories.
< 1456270966 195200 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456270966 195245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/category theory/the theory of categories/' wisdom/category\ theory
< 1456270969 177643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456270982 831137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category theory
< 1456270984 755660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the theory of categories, category theory is a theory in the category of theories.
< 1456271088 256186 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456271338 253422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category
< 1456271339 338931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A category is an enriched category where the enriching category is the category of classes.
< 1456271360 369643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? class
< 1456271362 345482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :class? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456271364 607846 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? classes
< 1456271368 723199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :classes? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456271380 955985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo has no class.
< 1456271385 342900 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hue hue hue ^^)
< 1456271591 733400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of the category theory wisdoms are actually mathematically accurate?
< 1456271593 219670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad
< 1456271594 212783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
< 1456271596 243642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is
< 1456271597 740476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonad
< 1456271600 922463 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comonads are just monads in the dual category.
< 1456271612 893014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is I think? not 100% sure
< 1456271619 163206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be missing details
< 1456271628 155158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: As far as I know, nothing in standard R5RS, but it does have both number? and complex? predicates.
< 1456271638 440557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456271649 949699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In many implementations the rational? procedure will be the same as real?, and the complex? procedure will be the same as number?, but unusual implementations may be able to represent some irrational numbers exactly or may extend the number system to support some kind of non-complex numbers."
< 1456271669 256405 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :his523. comonads are right.
< 1456271678 598525 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? theory
< 1456271680 952568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456271883 937020 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's something I'm making
< 1456271899 697162 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-73-55.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456271900 333243 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn theory/To be theory is to be like a theorem, but inferior
< 1456271903 394488 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoof
< 1456271904 435920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «theory»
< 1456271906 380329 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thue Proof
< 1456271925 891804 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a proof assistant based on string rewriting. It's utterly useless.
< 1456271953 279492 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't test it because I don't know of any good theorems/axiom schemas to test it on
< 1456271968 141134 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forty
< 1456271969 791837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty means "in a fort-like manner"
< 1456272023 401247 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps something stupid, like a rewriting system
< 1456272035 860421 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's pretty similar to the Post-Canonical System article
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< 1456272371 124942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, are there any good theorems that can be proved entirely using typed lambda calculus?
< 1456272381 175736 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :define good :p
< 1456272389 91453 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well, propositional tautologies can be proved
< 1456272391 994059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not completely trivial
< 1456272399 84062 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :define trivial :p
< 1456272415 931322 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :like (
< 1456272420 264604 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :like (\x -> x) : P -> P
< 1456272421 938148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you have a bottom type, then you can use the implies-and-bottom construction to create some interesting tautologies
< 1456272432 9734 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure if we would consider that a non trivial theorem
< 1456272437 41857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like de morgan's law
< 1456272443 844704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd consider de morgan's law nontrivial
< 1456272444 973223 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can't prove that
< 1456272454 52594 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's constructive logic..
< 1456272467 930291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, unless both sides happen to be identical after implies-and-bottom expansion, which is possilble
< 1456272472 623646 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you throw in some extra axiomns you can prove some cool stuff
< 1456272477 371564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The comonad entry is accurate (though I think people would usually say "opposite category"?).
< 1456272499 462053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids
< 1456272501 521063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with single objects.
< 1456272515 673812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one is accurate if phrased oddly.
< 1456272578 308918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vector space
< 1456272579 943864 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A vector space is just a module over a field.
< 1456272582 854671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? preorder
< 1456272583 631660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A preorder is just a small thin category.
< 1456272596 666204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? partial order
< 1456272598 111053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A partial order is just a small thin skeletal category.
< 1456272644 690095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monoidal category isn't just a category that has a monoid, though
< 1456272666 339318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoidal category
< 1456272667 932738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoidal categories are just 2-categories with a single object.
< 1456272703 379823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that should say weak 2-category or something?
< 1456272712 761805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :De Morgan's laws are good, but they're even better in linear logic.
< 1456272726 917734 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, here's an example proof :http://pastebin.com/qeGzdNzb
< 1456272741 318733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to work out how linear logic affects de morgan's laws
< 1456272754 943529 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It conditionally rewrites strings
< 1456272769 396984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you like duality and logic, linear logic is the place to be.
< 1456272788 508087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well affine logic is sort-of what I specialize in
< 1456272797 254698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's both a special case and a generalization of linear logic
< 1456272864 527007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~(A&B) = ~A + ~B
< 1456272873 963993 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is pretty much just post-canonical systems
< 1456272879 165861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~(A x B) = ~A # ~B
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< 1456272901 744453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ooh, a full linear logic version
< 1456272905 304965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you define not, though?
< 1456272910 150788 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still cool
< 1456272914 499766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it built-in?
< 1456272922 732994 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially that I'm managing to do math using IRC slang
< 1456272930 32408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually written as A^_|_
< 1456272949 337744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~(!A) = ?(~A)
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< 1456272959 274814 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, linear logic is nice
< 1456272965 262193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_logic#Connectives.2C_duality.2C_and_polarity
< 1456272983 933416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can build a huge number of things into linear logic
< 1456272989 654993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't necessarily mean they're useful for programming
< 1456273013 76953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've seen anyone seriously use ?, for example
< 1456273013 444178 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was difficult to integrate dependent types with linear logic
< 1456273024 178575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define (~A) as (A -o _|_)
< 1456273085 563393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I'm going to esointerpret that as "using A exactly once, you can create an infinite loop"
< 1456273132 494459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course ((A -o _|_) -o _|_) = A
< 1456273275 280969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ~~A is not equivalent to A in some logics
< 1456273319 480648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, e.g. intuitionistic logic.
< 1456273335 347299 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it true in linear logic?
< 1456273340 898583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because intuitionstic (A -> B) can be encoded as (!A -o B)
< 1456273371 865748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's something like !(!A -o _|_) -o _|_
< 1456273411 180291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := ~(!(~(!A))) = ?(~~(!A)) = ?(!A)
< 1456273413 546934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that?
< 1456273602 577704 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456273811 462038 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: What do you think of the idea of a proof esossistant?
< 1456273829 346537 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456273959 707101 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: No, really
< 1456274215 132912 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Its only data types are strings (constant axioms), s/// expressions (substitution axioms), and composed s/// expressions (lemmas/theorems)
< 1456274239 45860 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/Ax2v5XSV is the example (that one is the earlier one (or an edit thereof) posted under my actual account)
< 1456274257 425593 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that akin to SKI?
< 1456274272 250830 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It might be, but it's closer to post-canonical systems
< 1456274279 342396 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How so?
< 1456274337 396864 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Wait, was that not directed at me?
< 1456274560 599571 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it was.
< 1456274564 364685 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456274575 613864 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How is it like SKI then exactly?
< 1456274585 889398 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reminded of the applicative instance of ((->) r), where <*> is S.
< 1456274588 43912 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can maybe be proved TC by reduction ot SKI
< 1456274610 848895 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You have completely lost me
< 1456274711 318945 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition of substitutions should be the same as composition of s///es.
< 1456274715 517462 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess.
< 1456274725 471217 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I highly doubt, but I still guess so.
< 1456274755 221668 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yep, that's the idea
< 1456274784 56532 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In fact, composition of s///es is literally just applying each individual substitution
< 1456274815 35569 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In the example, the main block is a theorem (well, a proof)
< 1456274835 606567 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(once you have a proof, you can call it to form a theorem)
< 1456274891 539335 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's a little bit imperative ATM, but I will soon fix that
< 1456274929 143252 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am going to fix it with the @ operator, which applies a lemma/theorem or axiom until it stops changing the string
< 1456275079 946801 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that the language reduces trivially to Thue, and is thus TC
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< 1456276425 481438 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of something terrifying today
< 1456276429 408052 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continuous pi calculus
< 1456276446 458363 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :practical Unlambda?
< 1456276478 88352 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. why is it terrifying?
< 1456276506 167754 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, possibly the way it was described to me, which I can't really do justice to
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< 1456277089 385851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the concept does seem terrifying, also I can't figure out how it would work
< 1456277117 964422 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to the friendly and warm: everywhere discontinuous pi calculus
< 1456277138 888642 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ipqcacpagaqqqwiz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456277148 366853 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a genious!
< 1456277153 803227 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/x9uo6lgmf/
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< 1456277372 484946 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. happily kerbaling?
< 1456277601 502472 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, apparently it's used by some biologists???
< 1456277880 388941 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: My god, what OS is that?
< 1456277884 560872 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, probably a Linux
< 1456277894 598551 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The windowing looks pretty bad IMNSHO)
< 1456277925 794359 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How, may I ask?
< 1456278048 694996 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not realize biology involved math...
< 1456278179 218452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Windows 2000?
< 1456278189 396638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there's a lot of statistics in biology
< 1456278192 753694 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], it wasn't made clear
< 1456278204 621982 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], there's a lot of statistics and informatics
< 1456278222 690079 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, I figured there WAS math (that was a joke)
< 1456278222 901263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: those are very Windows close/maximize/minimize buttons, but maybe they've just been made to look the same as Windows
< 1456278236 183457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is informatics maths, technically?
< 1456278236 342848 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that's what I was thinking
< 1456278244 364737 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: when I was in university submitting stuff on the supercomputer we had, many users were bio-computer-science students.
< 1456278265 236259 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I would think that that was the "computer" and not the "bio" part
< 1456278410 56253 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So does Thoof look promising?
< 1456278415 739334 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or anybody else)
< 1456278428 529527 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds good.
< 1456278451 115967 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!
< 1456278472 288070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classical (A -> B) is encoded as (!A -o ?B)
< 1456278489 70144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So !(!A -o ?_|_) -o ?_|_ should be the same as A?
< 1456278493 159216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's ?_|_ ?
< 1456279275 438224 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. a very confused bottom.
< 1456279500 776798 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, normal regex does not let you detect matched brackets
< 1456279520 585229 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I have a nagging feeling this is possible using the horribly mutated Perl-style regex
< 1456279522 143171 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this so?
< 1456279571 776982 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps using backreference?
< 1456279641 538326 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl & PCRE support recursive patterns, so yes
< 1456279645 816194 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCRE isn't horrible.
< 1456279659 599950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has its own interior beauty.
< 1456279839 665604 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes!
< 1456279842 620365 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lexer works!
< 1456279851 694440 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, it isn't?
< 1456279863 138078 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sorry, can't keep track of what we do and do not hate
< 1456279901 978517 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Is it equivalent to a PDA?
< 1456279912 170073 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or equivalently, BNF (now known as F)?
< 1456279945 373455 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could do some non-PDA things
< 1456279960 714119 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wow
< 1456279962 329876 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impressive
< 1456279968 240640 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps
< 1456279976 148766 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also pretty bad, depends on the application
< 1456279986 839645 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about great power and great responsibility
< 1456280165 759204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "(a*)b\1b\1" is a legal Perl/PCRE regex (even POSIX if you change the syntax slightly) that can't be matched by a PDA
< 1456280190 631834 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting.
< 1456280194 43801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, Perl/PCRE regexes are I believe sub-TC unless you embed code in different languages inside them
< 1456280209 322224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's either going to be LBA or some weird class
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< 1456280484 343473 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The proof assistant is TC by reduction to thue, so the regexes themselves need not be TC; AFAIC, they can just be literal string matching
< 1456280495 567539 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm allowing regexes because I am a kind and merciful god
< 1456280501 99477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, if you know that something's above-PDA
< 1456280510 75739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what computational class it actually has is an interesting question
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< 1456282525 540355 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup ais523 
< 1456282549 928471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia
< 1456282866 807995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a question i want to ask but i dont know how to ensure it has only interesting answers
< 1456282903 247611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you want to ask us, you could just ask us not to give the boring answers, or let us give the boring answers first to get them out of the way and then start thinking
< 1456282963 483604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i want to define halting in such a way that it encapsulates all the usual connotations of halting
< 1456283036 62497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ouch
< 1456283039 615497 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :without specifying a specific "halt state"--just the idea that there is a state, perhaps not being explicitly tracked, after which nothing matters
< 1456283049 393838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I was capable of making that sort of definition I'd have at least one more paper than I have at the moment, probably two
< 1456283056 93292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the thing that's holding up the 2,3 Turing machine definition
< 1456283072 266221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, 2,3 Turing machine paper
< 1456283096 919943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so much the "what counts as halting" (I found a nice construction for that where we get the Turing head to fall off the end of the tape), but what counts as a legal initial condition
< 1456283116 221768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's basically the same problem, to determine what sort of description is legitimate and what sort of description is so complex it can "steal the TCness" by itself
< 1456283239 103438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not worried about TCness, though I am aware of what you're referring to and the controversy around it.
< 1456283266 384672 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more interested in non-TC systems that are still very powerful
< 1456283299 522720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, well if the system /is/ TC, an interesting definition of halting would be "the point at which the evolution of the system can be fully predicted by a sub-TC system"
< 1456283391 535688 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. yeah that would be easy. however, it wont do if you choose to define sub-TC as "halting is decidable"
< 1456283406 996057 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be circular
< 1456283409 281163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1456283417 716023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, not just circular, but also incorrect
< 1456283454 474111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456283543 367950 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah i want to look at the space of systems for which halting is decidable
< 1456283560 571549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to do that i need to know what halting is
< 1456283579 733971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is basically the same problem as the initial condition problem
< 1456283581 581339 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES!
< 1456283584 625000 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOOF WORKS!
< 1456283602 127150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely halted: a state in which nothing happens from then on (e.g. actually terminating the interpreter, an infinite loop with no changes)
< 1456283615 552462 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, not quite, probably
< 1456283618 113332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next simplest is a loop in which everything repeats exactly
< 1456283650 307258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next simplest is a state in which things aren't repeating exactly but the pattern is really obvious and can be generated via a very simple automaton (e.g. the 101101110111101111101111110 pattern that was discussed during the 2,3 stuff)
< 1456283652 259111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on
< 1456283795 94725 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the only acceptable universally definition is "can be modeled by a TM in which the state in question maps to an explicit halt state.
< 1456283809 646620 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm allowed to go up to TMs after all, yes?
< 1456283825 266237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will have problems defining "modeled"
< 1456283837 520201 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oof
< 1456283848 700562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you go all the way up to bisimulation, the least contentious definition, you'll notice that the TM now has to be sub-TC because it can't do anything that the lower level couldn't do
< 1456283874 137716 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i dont?
< 1456283900 691833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you're using a more contentious definition, and I can't think of any that would work here offhand
< 1456283904 176966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's possible that there is one
< 1456283922 299796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is basically what I did in the 2,3 proof that I submitted to the wolfram people and that won me the prize
< 1456283944 815330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :showing that the 2,3 machine was modelling a Turing machine, thus the complexity of the initial condition didn't matter because you could look at the internals to prove I wasn't cheating
< 1456283958 295766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the whole thing was more subjective than most mathematicians want
< 1456284104 518487 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with just implementing the subTC system in a UTM, but having the implementation "know" when the system has halted even if the system itself doesnt? 
< 1456284187 767649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for systems with an I/O mechanism (even if its just a "this state is interesting" flag) this is easy
< 1456284190 172339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can run an entire TC program while checking whether the system has halted or not, and use its haltingness to choose when to declare "halted", which is basically cheating but the definition has no obvious way to catch the cheating
< 1456284246 568790 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now it works
< 1456284286 771076 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody feel like proving anything in it? xD
< 1456284319 657019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess its pretty circular
< 1456284341 366405 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no idea what uou're talking about
< 1456284359 925872 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I made a proof assistant based on regexy Thue called Thoof
< 1456284368 339797 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's more of a programming language, but it works
< 1456284376 253763 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul
< 1456284396 154523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :provide a demo
< 1456284406 229947 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You set up the axioms (which are s/// expressions and assumed-to-exist strings, really) then apply them until you get your goal
< 1456284409 262884 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OK
< 1456284414 595374 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove that 5+5=10
< 1456284419 127589 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's TC by reduction to thue using the @ operator
< 1456284438 277948 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's stringier than numerical, really, but that could certainly be done if we allow binary
< 1456284460 167498 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just use the peano axioms
< 1456284481 882152 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Here's the demo: http://pastebin.com/Ax2v5XSV
< 1456284503 30627 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Keep in mind, this is basically Thue with regexes and more fine-grained control
< 1456284525 487917 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: There aren't built-in strings or anything
< 1456284571 181984 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pretty clear from the demo
< 1456284599 407979 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Great. Did I do something horribly wrong in my design?
< 1456284615 459910 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, not, "there aren't built-in strings"
< 1456284625 142430 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean "there are ONLY built-in strings"
< 1456284671 22489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :define ADD as the regex that turns S +  into  + S
< 1456284683 699337 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :define 5 as SSSSS0
< 1456284697 21468 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 10 as SSSSSSSSSS0
< 1456284697 921279 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yep, that was the plan
< 1456284770 206571 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I was planning to use the thue incrementer, though
< 1456284859 964672 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456285395 378066 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo
< 1456285398 539565 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1456285482 942665 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/--C-=C-C--  why is this tc?
< 1456285562 628118 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't looked well defined enough to say.
< 1456285566 23431 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*look
< 1456285617 91098 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456285655 952934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well C isn't turing complete without file I/O or something similar
< 1456285666 601700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, removing features may make it more TC by undisallowing bignums/unlimited malloc
< 1456285674 495471 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the author of that was a bit of a troublemaker afair
< 1456285684 475736 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't expect anything to make real sense.
< 1456285689 681877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to be assigning integers to voids, so presumably it doesn't follow the rules of C exactly
< 1456285724 812773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: read the Talk page, this discussion's apparently come up before
< 1456285757 804193 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah thanks
< 1456285758 662797 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456285796 294126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilers: pretty much everyone agrees with you
< 1456285834 297669 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456285914 654419 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird even blocked em at one point
< 1456286049 40641 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was when e was trying to fill in Unicode with a bot, i think.
< 1456286065 423788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you know what ?_|_ is?
< 1456286102 33611 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bottom?
< 1456286116 454568 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that page was created by User:Elliott
< 1456286122 446763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: with the question mark, no
< 1456286140 431904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe I can use Chu spaces to find out.
< 1456286158 413033 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :some thing a functor to tell whether a thing is bottom?
< 1456286178 626682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chu.stanford.edu/live/ says that _|_ is [[0],[1]] and that ?_|_ is [[1],[0]]
< 1456286195 256611 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1456286221 823528 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that may or may not be the same person as ehird, no time overlap
< 1456286229 34153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those even different?
< 1456286251 5816 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456286251 976036 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456286282 985232 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456286338 634630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Java applet isn't that great.
< 1456286354 57190 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456286479 304906 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uhm
< 1456286486 883598 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this idea for a language
< 1456286497 220268 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the ones that use the filesystem
< 1456286505 697870 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but none of them seems to use symlinks
< 1456286522 6446 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they could be used as an obvious way to loop and jump
< 1456286541 991153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the existing ones have been designed in a way that takes the medium into account
< 1456286551 997767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :symlinks for control flow are an obvious improvement
< 1456286561 113466 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1456286564 691331 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's do this
< 1456286590 876311 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so a directory is the equivalent of { }
< 1456286594 956646 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :symlinks are jumps
< 1456286620 347100 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the memory look like?  a tape?  a stack?  random variables?
< 1456286620 730030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, filesystems are typically unordered
< 1456286634 731105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus you shouldn't be taking advantage of the order of elements inside a directory
< 1456286645 526299 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a problem, you can just call the files 1 2 3 4 5
< 1456286646 374847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first thought here is "is it somehow possible to use the path as memory?"
< 1456286658 473476 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm not sure
< 1456286671 402002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, with symlinks, a/a/b/a/b and a/b/b could be the same file
< 1456286682 859556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have infinite storage there, although probably only accessible in a PDA way
< 1456286689 876508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can put ../ in a symlink
< 1456286767 459436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to start by looking at the implications of the simplest thing that could possibly work
< 1456286786 245695 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it be?
< 1456286814 892964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, each directory can contain either a) other directories; b) symlinks elsewhere; and c) a file with a specific name (say "run.sh") which just says "cd " followed by a directory name
< 1456286833 575512 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh no like it
< 1456286835 243652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just repeatedly change directory as indicated by this directory's where-to-go-next
< 1456286846 169942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is, is this PDA-complete? I suspect it might be
< 1456286856 135320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be worth trying to compile Splinter into it
< 1456286925 629348 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading on splinter
< 1456286944 703779 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh
< 1456286947 908216 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting a weird bug
< 1456286949 504266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my favourite PDA
< 1456286977 516723 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it's with the interpreter, not the proof, but that's always a possibility
< 1456286990 595049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm not sure if this folder thing is a PDA, I can't see an obvious way to copy state "upwards" from lower stack elements
< 1456286996 339176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't mean there isn't a non-obvious one
< 1456286999 768615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456287336 439569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's a PDA, but in a rather spammy way; you use a different directory name for each possible mapping of splinters to literal code blocks, which is an incredibly large number, but finite
< 1456287342 790884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you just make a PDA stack out of that directly
< 1456287351 395631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a PDA but not one it's interesting to program in
< 1456287611 57292 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1456287840 433906 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :borelang
< 1456287958 882017 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, now I have to figure out how to have multiple strings in one environment
< 1456287965 200190 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably should've thought of this
< 1456288008 308144 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just braid them together hth
< 1456288050 229095 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, good point.
< 1456288055 82553 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :100% valid and usefu
< 1456288056 15371 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :l
< 1456288078 48765 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course.  that's what hth means, after all.
< 1456288121 961879 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually a valid way of combining two natural numbers.  just write them in the same base and interleave.
< 1456288157 493834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's the easiest way to prove that Z²=Z or R²=R
< 1456288191 754166 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Try it with 1000000000000000000000 and 5
< 1456288234 648370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't think it works as straightforwardly for those as for N
< 1456288263 762239 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the first you need to consider sign, for the second you get the .9999... = 1.0000... problem
< 1456288272 761724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, handling the sign bit is a little tricky, you can treat it as a separate digit
< 1456288293 592014 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's easy enough in binary.
< 1456288298 756415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 9 recurring problem is something I hadn't thought of though
< 1456288309 30804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a very different thing from the cantor set.
< 1456288319 627044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: same cardinality though
< 1456288344 498145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you have an isomorphism there then your job is easy.
< 1456288355 2179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bijection, that's what it's called.
< 1456288382 687064 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could apply schröder-bernstein, then you just need injections first
< 1456288438 627810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the theorem that says two sets are equivalent if they inject both ways?
< 1456288445 734125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've known that one for ages but didn't realise it had a name
< 1456288450 834633 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456288472 672431 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty neat
< 1456288514 62899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good example of why infinity depresses and confuses me
< 1456288537 293526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's the sort of thing that should be really obvious with any normal (i.e. finite) set
< 1456288559 71289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x ≤ y, y ≤ x, you'd think that x = y
< 1456288576 551200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and turns out it is but you need a theorem to prove it :-(
< 1456288711 524105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you need a theorem to prove it" is an odd thing to say.
< 1456288728 233254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a theorem to prove anything.
< 1456288840 198697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that it's non-obvious enough that it's a theorem, with a name
< 1456288846 360651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that it's called a theorem
< 1456288849 448068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than people just using it
< 1456288867 648295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doin't think there's a name for the fact that x ≥ y && y ≥ x implies x = y on the integers
< 1456288882 674414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true but if you have to use it in a proof, you just assume it's true and that the reader will find it obvious
< 1456288885 872328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antisymmetry?
< 1456288886 382525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't give it a name and a citation
< 1456288901 810280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :antisymmetry is the name of the property that ≥ has that makes that happen
< 1456288911 585090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"≥ is antisymmetric" I guess is the theorem/fact
< 1456288921 588805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you rarely express it in those terms
< 1456288983 552585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually this is true for arbitrary join-semilattices; a ≥ b means "join(a, b) = b"; thus a ≥ b && b ≥ a means b = join(a, b) = a
< 1456288998 927054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it's true for arbitrary meet-semilattices for the same reason, just need a different definition of ≥ in terms of meets)
< 1456289019 687007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a semilattice is partially ordered.
< 1456289051 334109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though a semilattice-type thing for preorders would be fine too.
< 1456289063 433589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joins/meets would just not be unique.
< 1456289264 372507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this is a slightly different concept from the "partial order" I'm used to
< 1456289276 896110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a partial order, if you compare two things you get less than, equal, or greater
< 1456289284 825065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas with a semilattice, you get less than, equal, greater, or incomparable
< 1456289292 882238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like with a preorder
< 1456289297 102937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you thinking of a total order?
< 1456289299 473686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference is that meets /are/ unique
< 1456289314 969248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm thinking of something along the lines of a < b < (c = d = e) < f
< 1456289324 683877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas a total would be a < b < c < d < e  opinion on any two elements?
< 1456289674 52968 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, no
< 1456289693 730057 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add an uncomparable c if you like
< 1456289697 786126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it actually just a directed graph?
< 1456289708 698707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's reflexive and transitive.
< 1456289712 857814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1456289736 145285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? preorder
< 1456289737 997885 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A preorder is just a small thin category.
< 1456289759 868506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :("thin" means that for any pair of objects (A,B) there's at most one arrow : A -> B.)
< 1456289780 506811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and small means that it's not sufficiently infinite to make set theory cry
< 1456289800 904954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1456289826 334411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In topological terms, a partial order is like a T0 space.
< 1456289841 936432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any two points are distinguishable.
< 1456289880 533461 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has been going to this "italian" restaurant and now has a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RruDYGIx1Ak earworm

< 1456289906 296613 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ear poison
< 1456289938 434957 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? postorder
< 1456289939 219030 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :postorder? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456289941 692439 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good
< 1456290001 962917 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Postorder is the same as Polish notation, since Post was Polish. Not to be confused with reverse Polish notation.
< 1456290005 158806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'postorder': Postorder is the same as Polish notation, since Post was Polish. Not to be confused with reverse Polish notation.
< 1456290023 737290 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting a big fat category
< 1456290045 78621 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Postorder is the same as Polish notation, since Post was Polish. Not to be confused with reverse Polish notation, which puts operations last.
< 1456290047 311835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'postorder': Postorder is the same as Polish notation, since Post was Polish. Not to be confused with reverse Polish notation, which puts operations last.
< 1456290097 146060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Reverse Polish notation is what you get when you do a postorder traversal of a tree representing an arithmetic expression.
< 1456290132 5814 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Postorder is the same as Polish notation, since Post was Polish. Not to be confused with reverse Polish notation, which is postfix.
< 1456290134 145913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'postorder': Postorder is the same as Polish notation, since Post was Polish. Not to be confused with reverse Polish notation, which is postfix.
< 1456290195 288111 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456290229 76128 :andrew!~andrew@119.137.85.96 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456290717 256295 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !
< 1456290727 445810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/?: 5: [: closing paren expected \ !? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456290734 860296 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh
< 1456290745 388472 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hm!
< 1456290747 184306 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm!? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456290759 639709 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`test !
< 1456290760 308121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456290768 587844 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/?
< 1456290769 235973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \     then cat /dev/urandom; \     elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \     then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \     elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \     then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \     
< 1456290808 532275 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/!
< 1456290809 175497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/!: No such file or directory
< 1456290823 959274 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456290833 751771 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !test
< 1456290834 604391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!test? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456290840 657074 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !
< 1456290841 477205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/?: 5: [: closing paren expected \ !? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456290848 305337 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1456290853 527956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this site I've had open for a couple of hours suddenly started playing music, presumably through an advert
< 1456290856 452723 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !!
< 1456290857 265504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!!? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456290866 394634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so first I muted my speakers, then looked through the site's HTML for ad containers and deleted them all
< 1456290892 855762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, some of them have come back
< 1456290907 258469 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it the if test
< 1456290925 522017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's clearly test misinterpreting ! as an operator rather than an operand
< 1456290926 896655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? -le
< 1456290927 706003 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-le? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456290930 6691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456290932 381065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? -gt
< 1456290933 247459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-gt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456290947 997014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that looks like an operand because it would be a binary operator and there's nothing before it
< 1456290962 866744 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456291607 923172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in Chu(Set, 2), 1 is the singleton set, with one point and two opens.
< 1456291630 920454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And _|_ is the dual (the CABA corresponding to the singleton set?), with two points and one open.
< 1456291673 171529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The operation ?A is the De Morgan dual of !A, defined by ?A = (!(A^_|_))^_|_. Just as !A weakens A to a poset (when K=2), ?A dually strengthens A to a distributive lattice, the dual notion to a poset."
< 1456291676 663212 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456291747 224370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ?_|_ should be the transpose of !1
< 1456291770 122544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As our next linear logic connective we consider the unary operation !A. For finite Chu spaces over K = 2, !A yields the underlying partial order of A. This has the same points as A, which are taken to be ordered in such a way that a <= b just when it this is true in every column. Thus we have 001 <= 101 but not 010 <= 101.
< 1456291775 138753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The states of !A, still for K = 2, turn out to be definable as the closure under union and intersection of the states of A, together with the constantly 0 and constantly 1 states. An equivalent characterization of these states is that they are all those states that are consistent with the above partial order on A: any additional state would contradict some a <= b."
< 1456291878 184002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(open = state)
< 1456291992 58746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't !1 be 1?
< 1456292055 771617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 1 is unit, then I'd expect it to be
< 1456292581 575117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if ?_|_ = _|_, then !(!A -o ?_|_) -o ?_|_ = !(!A -o _|_) -o _|_
< 1456292591 202810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it works out the same as intuitionistic logic.
< 1456292609 346900 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1456292625 172712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe ?!A has the same behavior as A when your implications all look like !A -o ?B ?
< 1456292643 562885 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '1c#!/bin/bash' bin/\?
< 1456292657 311988 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456292661 22457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it previously using sh?
< 1456292666 78654 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/?
< 1456292666 788994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \     then cat /dev/urandom; \     elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \     then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \     elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \     then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \   
< 1456292667 520381 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456292673 91667 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !
< 1456292673 913168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/?: line 5: [: `)' expected, found ngevd \ !? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456292684 33454 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not that it helped enough
< 1456292688 841042 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd
< 1456292690 761652 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​֍UH<����{��ͅ�`	h;�/��|}n�iG�f.f�E	6皸�>�����p��av�t��r^=F�,�``4^I&ĝ\.��5ŏ��Ds:>�`oE���C�/ޟ����2�@2w����O𠐒`h|�0@�tйl�i)�7TDKɰ\U}�"zZ�$? 䜟
< 1456292697 763359 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently

< 1456292705 154890 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hmph
< 1456292707 110061 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His Master's Phonetic Hmph
< 1456292760 406550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin\? | grep summary:
< 1456292763 726637 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456292769 243599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1456292772 498012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/\? | grep summary:
< 1456292775 810738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      ` sed -i \'1c#!/bin/bash\' bin/\\? \ summary:      revert \ summary:      revert \ summary:      revert 1 \ summary:      sed -i \'2s/no/noo/\' bin/\\? \ summary:      sed -i \'2s!s/!s/no\\\\+dl/nooodl/;s/!\' bin/\'?\' \ summary:      revert \ summary:      sed -i \'2s!
< 1456292802 959160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg wells
< 1456292805 395021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: unknown command 'wells' \ Mercurial Distributed SCM \  \ basic commands: \  \  add         add the specified files on the next commit \  annotate    show changeset information by line for each file \  clone       make a copy of an existing repository \  commit      commit the specified files or all outstanding changes \  diff        diff reposi
< 1456292901 56609 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '5s/"/"_/g' bin/\?
< 1456292903 120387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456292907 376358 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !
< 1456292907 615129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: what sort of time machine are you twh
< 1456292908 328290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456292913 516596 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hmph
< 1456292914 961167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His Master's Phonetic Hmph
< 1456292934 519128 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's a proper way, but i cannot take any more manual reading.
< 1456292953 829958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that like automatic writing
< 1456292959 301319 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE
< 1456292974 322887 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: YES! I DID IT PROBABLY!
< 1456293003 973669 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn !/! is a syntax used in Haskell and Prolog for solving evaluation order problems.
< 1456293006 318836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «!»
< 1456293009 577583 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !
< 1456293010 581952 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! is a syntax used in Haskell and Prolog for solving evaluation order problems.
< 1456293132 11323 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456293150 546934 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ugh, some of them have come back <-- perhaps you should block the offending ad site hth
< 1456293168 69382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just found a different site altogether
< 1456293284 743609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn cut elimination/The cut-elimination theorem states that any Prolog program written using the cut operator ! can be rewritten without using that operator.
< 1456293286 986927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «cut elimination»
< 1456293290 533733 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if there's a third party site server annoying ads, you might want to block it from everywhere.
< 1456293295 272453 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*serving
< 1456293312 892311 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that actually true
< 1456293318 402580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was about to ask you
< 1456293321 887394 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the second part
< 1456293339 210358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which part is the first part
< 1456293354 512298 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part that says that's called the cut-elimination theorem hth
< 1456293376 180059 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't the truth of that is in serious question
< 1456293380 631205 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+think
< 1456293387 713273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the cut elimination theorem is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-elimination_theorem
< 1456293396 435083 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINGERS, SHALL I START CHOPPING YOU OFF AS PUNISHMENT?
< 1456293408 602357 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um, i said i was not questioning that part hth
< 1456293419 817645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456293430 113895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i misread my own question
< 1456293433 800171 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1456293438 45973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the second part is always true
< 1456293441 435440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't really know prolog
< 1456293451 184070 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ais523 might know
< 1456293465 249240 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since he inspired my `? ! addition
< 1456293471 7824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Prolog is TC without cut
< 1456293480 371780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it might be via bundling an interpreter
< 1456293492 976916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not a metacircular one, either, you'd have to go pretty much back to first principles
< 1456293507 906356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you can rephrase that wisdom entry to make it true that would improve it
< 1456293554 493855 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe it's like with the ordinary cut-elimination theorem, that it's possible but things blow up exponentially or more
< 1456293651 977422 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :trump won nevada
< 1456293660 736662 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you care
< 1456293663 84055 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in canada
< 1456293666 195413 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn programmers knowing what they're doing/Programmers knowing what they're doing is a hypothetical race invoked to justify keeping horrendous traps in programming languages.
< 1456293668 554017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «programmers knowing what they're doing»
< 1456293673 146299 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm having fun watching it
< 1456293674 485482 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: he might nuke canada hth
< 1456293686 114072 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the funniest show on earth
< 1456293690 312583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm following the US election too
< 1456293692 365073 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true
< 1456293715 762781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my opinion on Trump is that we basically don't have a clue what his opinions actually are, because the ones he publicly gives seem to have been designed for entertainment value more than truthfulness
< 1456293725 865026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that he probably wouldn't be as disastrous as he's pretending to be
< 1456293735 317401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's fun to see what he'll come up with in the meantime
< 1456293744 445092 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah true
< 1456293759 265381 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure whether or not I want him to be president just to see what happens
< 1456293781 661543 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point I just want the show to go on
< 1456293815 963771 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456293844 618702 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: if you can rephrase that wisdom entry to make it true that would improve it <-- [citation needed]
< 1456293845 859008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are various possibilities that would be even more dramatic
< 1456293865 581506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. say the democrats nominate hillary (which seems the most likely outcome at this point), republican convention is contested
< 1456293871 13617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and while the republicans are deciding hillary gets arrested
< 1456293877 977739 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456293905 258350 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/race/alien race/' wisdom/'programmers knowing what they're doing'
< 1456293906 25543 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file
< 1456293955 704345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: unescaped ' in the middle of your string
< 1456293969 188124 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/race/alien race/' 'wisdom/programmers knowing what they're doing'
< 1456293969 868417 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file
< 1456293976 884772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn cat elimination/cat elimination is the process of replacing a one-argument `cat` command with the shell operator <
< 1456293979 81961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «cat elimination»
< 1456293981 258478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to "-quote it or use '\''
< 1456294012 162686 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i "s/race/alien race/" "wisdom/programmers knowing what they're doing"
< 1456294014 108486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456294019 403745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn cat introduction/cat introduction is the process of piping one or more extra `cat` commands into your pipeline; occasionally this is even actually useful
< 1456294021 638101 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «cat introduction»
< 1456294021 897093 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1456294053 874750 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is it "actually useful"?
< 1456294055 914822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that related to http://www.purrsonals.com/ twh
< 1456294108 749126 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm not really following, but i've been assuming that the only chance either trump or sanders has of becoming president is if they face each other in the final election.
< 1456294125 268006 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any language that has implicit looping and explicit termination?
< 1456294139 624699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, the only two other people who seem likely on the republican side are cruz and rubio
< 1456294154 270198 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, when you run out of instructions you start from the beginning of the program again, and there's an explicit instruction to exit
< 1456294155 584742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cruz is known to be pretty extreme in views (as opposed to trump, for whom it's hard to tell)
< 1456294160 693308 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1456294182 637674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cruz versus sanders, for example, would basically be a choice between extreme right and extreme left (from a US point of view)
< 1456294203 946787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: quite a few of mine are like that, e.g. there's a C-INTERCAL command that puts it into that mode
< 1456294214 297353 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok nice
< 1456294218 829049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however normally I don't add the halt command because it isn't really required
< 1456294221 989502 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-INTERCAL?
< 1456294229 666914 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that C bindings for INTERCAL?
< 1456294238 61920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: it's an INTERCAL compiler written in C
< 1456294244 396476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has C bindings, though
< 1456294246 650881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Befunge bindings
< 1456294250 383990 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456294257 32707 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL building walls to keep immigrants away is not extreme right
< 1456294258 605029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they work using INTERCAL control flow
< 1456294286 364278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't necessarily call the C from the INTERCAL; you could instead put a COME FROM statement in the C and it'd steal control from the INTERCAL
< 1456294310 810442 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/cat elimination
< 1456294312 109342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Trump's opinions aren't consistently extreme right
< 1456294313 124685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf
< 1456294323 687558 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/cat introduction
< 1456294324 635137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he isn't going to build it himself, he claims he's going to make the Mexicans build one
< 1456294325 838864 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523
< 1456294354 332182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is incredibly unrealistic; I'm not convinced they could afford it no matter how much pressure the US puts on them
< 1456294357 115784 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought purssonals.com was furry related but it's only cat relatex
< 1456294360 200487 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well people have pointed out that Trump is more like a european right winger than a US one
< 1456294377 935330 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456294379 322180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the US would probably get into a ton of international trouble
< 1456294382 941446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the Antiguan pirate movies
< 1456294391 479817 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like he careS
< 1456294395 408319 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: is that related to http://www.purrsonals.com/ twh <-- why are you asking me
< 1456294400 58750 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares at her fingers

< 1456294417 418044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(summary: there was some sort of trade dispute between the US and Antigua, the WTO found that Antigua was in the right and had lost money as a result, and they gave it the right to pirate X amount of US copyrighted stuff in order to get their money back)
< 1456294484 10115 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that's why antiguan iphones are so cheap
< 1456294558 444578 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/'cat introduction'
< 1456294560 741598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456294688 75749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you made the wisdom entry hth
< 1456294730 466580 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i thought purssonals.com was furry related but it's only cat relatex <-- just blame freefall hth
< 1456294806 764093 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which one
< 1456294842 154157 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you perchance confused again
< 1456294848 418526 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456294849 383759 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also had another idea: a language where the only means to loop is a goto instruction and it has a side effect of incrementing a memory cell
< 1456294862 450040 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto++
< 1456294877 838708 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)  nice name
< 1456294895 148606 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :remarkably, it doesn't seem taken either
< 1456294907 785229 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm copyrighting the idea
< 1456294927 374918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was pretty sure it was taken
< 1456294944 312654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/GOTO%2B%2B
< 1456294954 814524 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1456294962 565669 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid capitalization
< 1456294970 116237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "cat introduction" hth
< 1456294976 150410 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was just writing the url directly

< 1456294987 94426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has its own website: http://www.gotopp.org/faq.html.en
< 1456295006 827219 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this sounds easy to fix
< 1456295020 271699 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto-- where jumping decrements a variable
< 1456295032 566621 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're clearly confused.  do you have toxoplasmosis tdnh
< 1456295049 113981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh
< 1456295070 79734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not used to ais523 making wisdom entries
< 1456295077 886840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor am I
< 1456295081 177044 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it --goto: cells wrap around at 256 and if the decremented value ends up being 0 you don't jump
< 1456295084 32232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a few more but they're mostly serious ones
< 1456295088 135004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your nicks are in the same length equivalence class
< 1456295105 176145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people put nicks into equivalence classes?
< 1456295194 707214 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the ancient order of myndzi
< 1456295195 251542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't put them into that equivalence class, they were already in it.
< 1456295208 659651 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who seems to have disappeared entirely from here
< 1456295244 510725 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi
< 1456295245 962217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet.
< 1456295259 96257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom | grep 'summary:     ' | egrep -v 'sed|revert'
< 1456295261 125668 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn myndzi used to keep us all on our feet.
< 1456295265 307437 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      le/rn cat introduction/cat introduction is the process of piping one or more extra `cat` commands into your pipeline; occasionally this is even actually useful \ summary:      learn Moths are the main ingredient of mothballs. \ summary:      le/rn al gore/al gore invented the algorithm \ summary:      e
< 1456295269 26979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'myndzi': myndzi used to keep us all on our feet.
< 1456295276 511005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean now, people have to draw in the arms, legs and bodies of stick figures /manually/?
< 1456295281 912237 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456295293 360508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, "moths are the main ingredient of mothballs" was me?
< 1456295302 487410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom | grep 'summary:     ' | egrep -v 'sed|revert' | tail -n+4
< 1456295305 554371 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ summary:      ls wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ summary:      le/rn hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 \ summary:      le/rn resume/a resume is something that you use in order to end a pause in employment \ summary:      learn 
< 1456295309 260965 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate aka mourn
< 1456295309 426930 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1456295333 651523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those don't look very serious.
< 1456295391 570323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1456295404 668692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I was wrong abou them mostly being serious
< 1456295420 349479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you added serious quotes instead of serious wisdom entries.
< 1456295422 398429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I decided to reverse that hash
< 1456295433 792556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a ton of apparently unrelated sites where people are complaining that it's impossible to reverse
< 1456295439 904734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it is the SHA-1 hash of "hash"
< 1456295451 877311 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"suspect"
< 1456295454 662108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, just verified
< 1456295457 635277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't sure until I checked
< 1456295485 24761 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about hashes is that suspicion is close to knowledge
< 1456295495 25335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The word above "Hash" is the correct spelling for the word. It is very easy to misspell a word like Hash, therefore you can use TellSpell as a spell checker. Whenever you do not know how to spell a word just go to this site and search, we got millions of different misspellings for the words already indexed by google, so just google it it as you think it is spelled and hopefully google will help you find Tellspell again!"
< 1456295535 474483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this site actually outright reverses the hash in question, i.e. it contains the hash somewhere on the page and explains what it's a hash of also on the same page)
< 1456295545 887148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Bitcoin network computes 2^64 SHA-256 hashes every 10-20 seconds.
< 1456295574 512108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this list of "common spellings" is ridiculous
< 1456295580 301729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* "common misspellings"
< 1456295619 342403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it includes things like 'whaswh', 'hkashk', 'hiesh', and 'as'
< 1456295640 434315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh and 'thasth'
< 1456295681 384430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a list of anagrams which is actually a list of permutations
< 1456295697 121958 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so you could say it makes a hash of spellings?
< 1456295708 452617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely!
< 1456295807 877802 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me how annoyed i get at dictionary/lyrics etc. sites that steal google hits for things they _don't have actual entries for_
< 1456295850 769653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyrics websites are the worst
< 1456295856 22593 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, i guess, why nowadays i go directly to wiktionary
< 1456295856 467088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they all bad twh
< 1456295863 378855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, worst would probably be the search engines that attempt to steal google hits
< 1456295883 453989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see why they do it but it's still mindboggling
< 1456295894 731377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, top result on google is the same search, just in a different search engine
< 1456295900 122177 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i looked up one of those italian songs yesterday and it had the lyrics, but in the wrong charset so più had a russian letter at the end
< 1456295911 539933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly these are specific search engines that focus on one thing and aren't very well known)
< 1456295929 461429 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*this site had
< 1456295956 566120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn post-turing machine/A post-Turing machine is a machine from the post-Turing era.
< 1456295958 727406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «post-turing machine»
< 1456296020 550007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should sleep hth
< 1456296081 603280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws a macro suffering from incorrect hygiene implementation at shachaf 

< 1456296087 185420 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you reminded me to peek at bitcoin again, it seems to have doubled in the last 6 months
< 1456296137 932793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in value? or in volume?
< 1456296147 841521 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :value
< 1456296189 247082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if bitcoin is the most volatile widely-traded asset in the world

< 1456296200 954546 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i _used_ to go to merriam-webster for english words often, because they had a good pronunciation guide.  but then they redesigned so it's hard to find the actual pronunciation key...
< 1456296202 817045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems unlikely, but it also seems unlikely that something could be even more volatile
< 1456296251 776942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What counts as an asset?
< 1456296353 769734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that has value
< 1456296366 259780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to qualify it with "widely-traded" so that it wouldn't end up applying to almost everything
< 1456296366 417769 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456296421 123964 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oil is pretty volatile if you have a match hth
< 1456296452 424809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How widely-traded is Bitcoin?
< 1456296486 315023 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm it wasn't actually ais523 who reminded me of prolog cut, but prooftechnique 
< 1456296495 63634 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to logreading
< 1456296504 616802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: toxoplasmosis strikes again hth
< 1456296544 154523 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.  i didn't get away from the cats soon enough.
< 1456296545 825604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably find some pretty volatile 3x leveraged ETF that's at least as widely-traded as Bitcoin?
< 1456296567 473619 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal people don't know what ETF means, shachaf.
< 1456296569 542370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google ->
< 1456296603 302443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ask \oren\, he's an expert in derivatives hth
< 1456296663 608845 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1456296683 983637 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456296755 580354 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh
< 1456296759 342371 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introducing 
< 1456296763 321383 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops
< 1456296777 270340 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introducing variables to Thoof would make it a LOT easier to use
< 1456296786 349816 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would be cheating, IMHO...
< 1456297461 434277 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? theory
< 1456297462 360340 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be theory is to be like a theorem, but inferior
< 1456297472 908776 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/theory
< 1456297474 860352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456297484 242741 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION charges hppavilion[1] one period.

< 1456297597 920915 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.
< 1456297754 706877 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye
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< 1456298451 68818 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Happy?
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< 1456298524 621024 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a potamus
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< 1456300390 196146 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to the dora tune: )b- b- b- b- b- bit-coin
< 1456300406 738473 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : So !(!A -o ?_|_) -o ?_|_ should be the same as A? <-- i don't think you need to know what ?_|_ is to see that can't be true, since ! is not injective
< 1456300442 158260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean?
< 1456300468 132206 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that !!A = !A, so the left side _also_ must be the same as !A
< 1456300498 673928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be missing the thing you're looking at.
< 1456300504 123944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!_x!_yA = !_xyA
< 1456300536 389390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's !_x?
< 1456300542 976585 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456300551 13028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a syntax used in various generalizations of linear logic
< 1456300554 298937 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: !(!A -o ?_|_) -o ?_|_ is the same as !(!(!A) -o ?_|_) -o ?_|_ because !(!A) is the same as !A
< 1456300560 785035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :typically it just has to be a semiring eleemnt
< 1456300579 63138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do interesting things by choosing various semirings
< 1456300585 757329 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, if the left side is always equal to A, it must also be always equal to !A
< 1456300602 696502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a big unifying theme of a bunch of type systems that I discovered during my thesis, then I discovered that they all failed at their design goal and for the same reason
< 1456300618 138052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, you mean the left side of the equality.
< 1456300666 392109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's not the same as A but it's classically equivalent to it.
< 1456300680 839936 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's true whenever A = !A
< 1456300732 546683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1456300759 110460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 always leaves very suddenly.
< 1456300779 768404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No time to respond to the thing about !_x
< 1456300796 531250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say something about reconciling that with the comonoid laws.
< 1456300810 450952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the same argument you made works for intuitionistic logic.
< 1456300822 418643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course we expect ~~A to be different from A intuitionistically.
< 1456300831 64885 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he had a hunch it would be a good time to leave
< 1456300902 797892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does !A -o ?B correspond to classical implication?
< 1456300916 343521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes as many As as it wants, and produces as many Bs as it wants.
< 1456300925 656825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including zero Bs?
< 1456300933 671727 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456300971 592122 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as many as the caller wants, perhaps?
< 1456301027 236579 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's at _least_ one
< 1456301035 930005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it be?
< 1456301037 944945 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, no one understands ?
< 1456301049 6869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I give you ?A, that means you have to consume any number of As, doesn't it?
< 1456301057 349804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't know how many but you have to handle them all.
< 1456301076 474162 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, maybe
< 1456301087 510798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that's not enough, in a similar way to comonoids and monoids behaving somewhat differently?
< 1456301150 594089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~(!A -o ?B) = ~(~!A # ?B) = ~(?~A # ?B) = ~?~A x ~?B = !A x ~?B = !A x !~B
< 1456301155 858375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that right?
< 1456301263 524808 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got lists working in thoof :)
< 1456301274 940531 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456301373 36191 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hi
< 1456301391 227063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do all those ascii stuff even mean?
< 1456301445 103801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: # is ⅋
< 1456301446 518837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu
< 1456301456 540474 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm making an esoteric proof assistant :)I
< 1456301458 524164 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:)
< 1456301473 455830 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how do I inspire clean refactors from my coworkers?
< 1456301476 315984 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: uh... ok
< 1456301485 493636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_logic hth
< 1456301501 779606 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've learnt very little of those non-classical logic thingies
< 1456301514 511065 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I have no clue. It's one of the great mysteries of the universe.
< 1456301517 488907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, _that_ linear logic
< 1456301520 113706 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even worse
< 1456301598 902104 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I mean, if there are 3 things that, together will be a step closer to a clean API, 1 to fix the bug, and 2 to prevent similar bugs in the fugure, my coworkers tend to do 1 instead of all 3
< 1456301625 903675 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Have a riding crop?
< 1456301649 100428 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lol
< 1456301652 319177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: linear logic is so good
< 1456301656 45120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only i understood it
< 1456301697 231789 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Or perhaps, if you have 2 coworkers to spare, have one fix the bug and the other two (including you) will prevent it in the future?
< 1456301701 627608 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a team refactor?
< 1456301722 699080 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's a better idea
< 1456301767 682436 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So I'm inventing a calculus to prove things using s/// notation
< 1456301780 698690 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: isn't that already a thing?
< 1456301784 61345 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: For the eso-proof assistant
< 1456301787 12193 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Probably.
< 1456301796 421699 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I think it's a calculus
< 1456301802 898688 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SubstitutionSystem.html
< 1456301816 565358 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Mine uses regex?
< 1456301831 265954 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then
< 1456301836 794071 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's different
< 1456301846 190347 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: PCRE, no less
< 1456301866 756704 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_system
< 1456301879 88443 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It made everything easier to use Regex; otherwise, I'm just making manual Thue
< 1456301901 99400 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I suppose it could be used to implement a cyclic tag system
< 1456301939 632625 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so have you discovered any unique insights? or tautologies?
< 1456301945 695725 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tag is written tagname :: s/begining(?.*)/\goutput/
< 1456301961 333591 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No; I just got peano arithmetic working xD
< 1456301965 615252 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earlier today
< 1456301973 978140 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And really only addition
< 1456301994 386895 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's good
< 1456302053 568774 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but I wonder if my philisophy of refactoring is the antithesis of http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?YouArentGonnaNeedIt
< 1456302085 202574 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It appears it does
< 1456302111 530085 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but on the original hand, if you're already specifying something multiple times, then proper refactoring is covered by http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DontRepeatYourself
< 1456302134 431713 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's head explodes

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< 1456302243 490058 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the only solution is earmarking
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< 1456302501 752221 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't like wikipedia's earmark, but I do like http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=earmark
< 1456302620 261794 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: can you use the same technique you used for addition to implement multiplication?
< 1456302784 764765 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes, probably
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< 1456303033 957539 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: In case you're curious, http://pastebin.com/Y00f06hb is the axioms for peano arithmetic (but not the theorems)
< 1456303080 750826 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :axioms are boring, theorems make a theory
< 1456303113 237619 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you don't go to school to learn axioms, you go to learn theory
< 1456303135 261013 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed
< 1456303151 207943 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ...
< 1456303151 837763 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine
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< 1456303423 18281 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: There, updated
< 1456303468 883602 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456303529 559177 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oOo
< 1456303724 33971 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Is it acceptable for math iyo?
< 1456303756 506819 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"iyo"?
< 1456303781 623400 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your obliviousness
< 1456303818 242025 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: perhaps 2 beers ago, I might have found a falicy in your argument, but now, I cannot
< 1456303821 989058 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Trust in the izabera. Izabera will never lead you astray
< 1456303830 547106 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456303858 53055 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody on this channel ever lies or jokes. It is easy to tell what we're talking about- just read the messages
< 1456304015 748865 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I lie sometimes
< 1456304028 971127 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: That's a quantum paradox.
< 1456304029 971702 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, I don't drink beer, I drink hard apple cider
< 1456304063 356954 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aHa!
< 1456304110 722588 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, that would be "i lies sometimes" hth
< 1456304136 993180 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: All probability is quantum in hte end
< 1456304140 861940 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the
< 1456304149 106356 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think you meant "hte"
< 1456304168 827279 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Hope Tyrants Exterminate?
< 1456304180 487498 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh* I can never get my misspellings incorrect enough
< 1456304183 108388 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellish Tyranosaurus Eggs?
< 1456304188 474179 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456304206 561590 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: you should learn from hppavilion[1] 
< 1456304246 107516 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :)
< 1456304270 86660 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1] 
< 1456304273 688425 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe.
< 1456304279 564930 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion
< 1456304280 476476 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456304295 868032 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.14159?
< 1456304330 482591 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you include ZWSP in there?
< 1456304355 81999 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused

< 1456304359 259689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: probably as a method of breaking up botloops
< 1456304376 888130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (> 4)S
< 1456304377 88138 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4
< 1456304382 902018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4
< 1456304393 277919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: are you OK?
< 1456304399 512536 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I have a font that has tiny letters in boxes :D
< 1456304400 708247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages?
< 1456304402 852671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today.
< 1456304406 807183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456304408 443480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@eval 4
< 1456304417 402901 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion1
< 1456304418 383076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed
< 1456304422 594181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear lambdabot's forgotten Haskell
< 1456304427 207015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be a disaster if true
< 1456304427 956168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 4
< 1456304428 813974 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :044 : 12Integer
< 1456304442 125211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!( 4
< 1456304442 283078 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 4
< 1456304445 29598 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :044 : 12Integer
< 1456304453 324621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need some sort of botloop protection
< 1456304468 94479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's not a very good higgledy piggledy tdnh
< 1456304469 212681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise people will almost inevitably come up with a way to get the bots to keep talking to each other indefinitely
< 1456304477 371513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo someone ought to improve it
< 1456304481 695243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until someone mutes or kicks one in order to break up the loop
< 1456304485 459054 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits hppavilion1
< 1456304489 71891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456304494 520682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind-of a rite of passage whenever someene brings a (sufficiently powerful) new bot in here
< 1456304495 585175 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/hppavilion1
< 1456304499 434052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 ZomieCheney shachaf hppavilion1
< 1456304514 796713 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OH LOOK
< 1456304519 252495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what
< 1456304527 550486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/hppavilion1 | grep summary:
< 1456304528 678053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      revert \ summary:      learn hppavilion1 is ZombieCheney \ summary:      ` sed -i -e \'s/\\w\\+ \\w\\+ //\' -e \'s/leave them/be left/\' wisdom/hppavilion1 \ summary:      learn hppavilion1 is higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn\'t like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontrove
< 1456304546 267201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like you made the file and i made a small change
< 1456304547 637384 :adu_!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456304548 70676 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh.
< 1456304556 515826 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not the one who made that though.
< 1456304558 788675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then one or other of the bot operators will figure out a way to prevent the loop permanently
< 1456304568 793340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the bots do it by inserting invisible characters at the start of strings
< 1456304572 726273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they don't hit another bot's prefix
< 1456304581 742680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help eval
< 1456304583 798904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval. Do nothing (perversely)
< 1456304589 22824 :adu_!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, about a year ago, I programmed to restart my router presicely now, oh well
< 1456304602 438306 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456304603 288700 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo "walrus"
< 1456304604 139270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo \"walrus\""]} target:#esoteric rest:"\"walrus\""
< 1456304607 431801 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+
< 1456304614 756536 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops
< 1456304619 382264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah right
< 1456304620 809055 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@say "walrus"
< 1456304622 224924 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: src slap faq
< 1456304622 906394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why wasn't > working?
< 1456304636 301870 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) "walrus"
< 1456304638 938421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just having problems.
< 1456304640 451076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1
< 1456304647 549629 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "walrus"
< 1456304649 472890 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"walrus" : 12String
< 1456304649 705927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way to make a bot loop with two lambdabot instances is ?where.
< 1456304649 864360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1
< 1456304654 991803 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where
< 1456304655 313020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456304655 745316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where , return element associated with key
< 1456304658 437928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456304660 4329 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where "walrus"
< 1456304667 506929 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about "walrus".
< 1456304675 855217 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456304676 210755 :adu_!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net NICK :adu
< 1456304678 146782 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unifoundry.com/unifont.html
< 1456304678 737868 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ GNU unifont, best font for universal coverage, not so good for printers, though
< 1456304678 895536 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @eval 4 <-- wrong command hth
< 1456304684 544604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes but I tried > first
< 1456304687 292920 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was going to do hackego <-> lambdabot
< 1456304690 884830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else was I meant to do?
< 1456304703 806438 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, when will lambdabot and HackEgo make up and just fuck.
< 1456304767 756179 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I agree
< 1456304769 279571 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Arbitrary attribution time! What are the genders of the various bots on the channel, followed by shame for the reasoning you assigned these genders (namely, sexism).)
< 1456304790 39788 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Notice that I put the period between two parentheses there).
< 1456304795 764315 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: convergence of political structures is bad, convergence of technology is good
< 1456304802 226966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The comonoid laws say that comult which turns !A into !A⊗!A has to produce the "same" value twice, right?
< 1456304825 484514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in what, linear logic?
< 1456304844 158780 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If we let interpreters be anonymous objects like in Mascarpone, what does a "coterpreter" do?
< 1456304858 996718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's any more true in general, than A⊗A only working in monoids if both As are the same
< 1456304872 463374 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]:  is that a cheese?
< 1456304886 746952 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, it's a language.
< 1456304887 690026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, if you work out the comonoid laws in Haskell, they tell you that counit x = () and comult x = (x,x)
< 1456304896 676977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Haskell or Set or that sort of category.)
< 1456304896 835137 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: A damn good one at that
< 1456304902 651247 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or an intrapreter?
< 1456304904 170496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it different in the context of linear types?
< 1456304913 523746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm
< 1456304923 409005 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: We should start designing an elaborate structure for interpretation
< 1456304926 712809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may have fallen into the problem that monoids exist at multiple levels of abstraction, again
< 1456304934 679293 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something beyond the normal "you have an interpreter and it does your program" thing
< 1456304938 648349 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: can we model it after MMIX?
< 1456304946 38919 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If you like.
< 1456304947 459076 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oOo can I tell you my idea?
< 1456304951 283322 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Go on
< 1456304983 173052 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so MMIX has 2 opcodes that are very similar, 0x00 (which is for the kernel), and 0xFF (which is for users)
< 1456304991 670665 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456305014 944769 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking just get rid of 0xFF for user code, and just use it for really exotic opcodes
< 1456305052 719328 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, replace_the_third_and_forth_elements_of_a_16_element_list()
< 1456305071 91822 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: That's just unnecessary specificity
< 1456305081 862591 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I prefer esolangs that generalize too far to ones that specify to far
< 1456305093 473146 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to far/too far/
< 1456305098 574002 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you know how x86 has escape codes for FMA4 and stuff, that's what 0xFF could be
< 1456305099 404445 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the previous exercise, fungot is clearly a fungus- beyond our typical interpretation of "gender"
< 1456305099 670669 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway i gotta fix this, using do-loop construct. do, i can no longer do you have
< 1456305138 969214 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 2 -- ais523 
< 1456305145 293827 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still dead
< 1456305148 759463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2
< 1456305151 672207 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456305155 937751 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just slow
< 1456305171 361140 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (> 4)S
< 1456305171 519147 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4
< 1456305175 605297 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: contrainterpreter?
< 1456305178 856335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4
< 1456305182 547451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Which level of abstraction were you thinking of?
< 1456305184 631646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go
< 1456305205 166804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not sure, I was simply going off the most common monoid (tuple formation) and trying to reverse all the arrows mentally
< 1456305219 47460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoid_(category_theory)
< 1456305224 852057 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interpreter, coterpreter, intrapreter, cotrapreter, contrapreter is the basic set of types of interpreter for Cheese Theory
< 1456305239 498798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah, I was going off "monoidal category"
< 1456305242 666981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the dual of that.
< 1456305252 683037 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has got pretty good at prepending spaces to its messages, so isn't so useful for botlops any longer
< 1456305256 787539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monoid is defined in a monoidal category. I guess those are two levels of abstraction.
< 1456305261 704021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the monoid you linked exists /inside/ a monoidal category, and uses the category's monoid in order to define itself
< 1456305262 667909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: except for ?where ?where hth
< 1456305263 209567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1456305267 98527 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? botlop
< 1456305268 718031 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :botlops are the core of botsentiences. Sapience is scheduled for the next release.
< 1456305272 724946 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seemed to have developed an obligation to open any link talking about category theory, despite knowing I won't understand it
< 1456305279 369533 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. Didn't expect that.
< 1456305284 269581 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? botloop
< 1456305285 162455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :botloop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456305287 849420 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wasn't that fixed?
< 1456305292 236021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it?
< 1456305294 215125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456305294 651294 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ok so 0x00 is TRIP, and 0xFF is TRAP, I think I had them reversed, 0xFF is system calls, 0x00 is user-space handlers
< 1456305296 356071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you mean you do understand it? or that it isn't about category theory?
< 1456305296 514183 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456305311 212396 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not as in it was changed, but as in you cannot define a new one
< 1456305321 623586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean ?where+ was changed?
< 1456305331 582045 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or was it only with ?
< 1456305332 694366 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the secret to category theory is: "Follow the Arrows"
< 1456305333 222096 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know hat I won't understand whatever is in the link
< 1456305343 527587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was only ?
< 1456305346 38072 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where testing
< 1456305347 278473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about testing.
< 1456305347 866381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: was replying to the "didn't expect that"
< 1456305348 215754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456305351 327399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: seen ion
< 1456305352 514153 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah
< 1456305355 686154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I just realised it might be about wisdom rather than about monoids
< 1456305365 687507 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, I wasn't expecting there to be anything under `? botlop
< 1456305367 674505 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wisdom is good
< 1456305371 665833 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Because I thought it was a typo
< 1456305372 952645 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where+ test ?where test
< 1456305375 573350 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1456305377 383590 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery walrus
< 1456305378 235759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking.
< 1456305380 744500 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456305381 575905 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456305385 956822 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok then
< 1456305387 470747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where+ test @where test
< 1456305389 580285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1456305390 272145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456305391 581803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where test
< 1456305395 970240 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly
< 1456305409 544966 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery c++
< 1456305410 300157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is an attempt to improve upon C. The only thing it actually improved was memory management, and it made everything else worse.
< 1456305420 80847 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery rust
< 1456305420 872813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking.
< 1456305423 377596 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but you can still only make messages that start with ? then?
< 1456305428 418596 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hey
< 1456305433 422017 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Rust is cool
< 1456305433 895055 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes?
< 1456305437 479760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04s08e09c11u12r13i04t08y
< 1456305437 748669 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yeah
< 1456305444 49066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/blob/master/lambdabot-haskell-plugins/src/Lambdabot/Plugin/Haskell/Type.hs#L77
< 1456305447 691877 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: And tomfoolery is for accuracy
< 1456305456 939660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What do you mean?
< 1456305457 666153 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Rust is going to eradicate C++ from the world!
< 1456305463 995121 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yeah, no.
< 1456305469 312655 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far too late for that
< 1456305474 67900 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't think Rust is ever going to displace C
< 1456305477 452004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s tomfoolery bin/'??'
< 1456305479 898395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456305482 505170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?? c++
< 1456305483 167545 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but mark my words, Rust is going to replace C++
< 1456305483 325348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is an attempt to improve upon C. The only thing it actually improved was memory management, and it made everything else worse.
< 1456305498 527840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, let's have a nice punctuationy tomfoolery-caller
< 1456305508 955472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? That's not accurate at all.
< 1456305523 755783 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you don't believe it too, then you underestimate the power of the borrow
< 1456305525 168691 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Should we change `tomfoolery for randomness?
< 1456305527 927699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a flamewar attempt. You could be kicked for that sort of thing in a serious channel.
< 1456305558 14445 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a disciple of the borrow

< 1456305560 305726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, but we all hate C++ here LTIC
< 1456305562 363795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm happy with the setup atm (amazingly), although that doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't an even better one
< 1456305573 26211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we like compile-time-C++
< 1456305576 603051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an esolang in its own right
< 1456305583 170783 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well yeah
< 1456305585 777085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't hate C++.
< 1456305595 388449 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But C++ on its own is not good for programming, AFAIBT
< 1456305597 236767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: actually, one thing that impresses me more than Rust getting borrows right, is Rust getting steals right
< 1456305612 397170 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is that a joke? I can't tell
< 1456305615 824200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a huge pain to do those correctly in C, I end up having to write comments clarifying what works
< 1456305621 203693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not really
< 1456305638 811429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you borrow a reference the original caller has it again when you're done, and you can't do anything "transformative" to the reference
< 1456305652 746277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at it, really; possibly mutate what it references, if it's a mutable borrow
< 1456305660 119408 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So there's seriously a programming thing called a "steal", similar to a "borrow"?
< 1456305661 174210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't do things like change its address or make it a different data type
< 1456305664 280515 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a "lose"?
< 1456305664 438332 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust gets memory right, ownership, borrows, etc.
< 1456305677 894408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a steal is when the old owner no longer has access to the reference at all
< 1456305687 799385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can do what you like with the reference you stole
< 1456305696 628839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good example is free(), it steals the reference to the pointer you're freeing
< 1456305698 284693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it can get rid of it
< 1456305708 143568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that just "move"?
< 1456305709 540928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :realloc() also steals a reference, and then donates one back
< 1456305720 320656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: with unique pointers, yes
< 1456305723 974816 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456305727 970551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about refcounted pointers
< 1456305729 953196 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you cannot get lambdabot to say something starting with another bot's prefix
< 1456305742 949470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where+ test ^where test
< 1456305745 853235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the situation I normally talk about staling for
< 1456305746 514626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456305751 57412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stealing
< 1456305755 733861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is stored.
< 1456305757 733766 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where test
< 1456305769 990785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is this based on punctuation marks, or on a hardcoded list, or something else?
< 1456305777 327565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it just adds a space if a line starts with "@".
< 1456305806 793367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, fungot seems to have lambdabot on ignore
< 1456305806 996788 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's more than 1 element?" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord
< 1456305810 318209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes a ton of sense really
< 1456305817 546888 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ouch, them too?
< 1456305836 27687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has all the bots in the channel on ignore
< 1456305836 206519 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lazy as in fnord? the ones i switch between them
< 1456305842 723333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's its own method of preventing botloops
< 1456305852 260812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore
< 1456305866 445639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if I can do this, printing the list might be fizzie-only
< 1456305899 472367 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` ln -s tomfoolery bin/'??' <-- note that symbolic links have a tendency of getting lost in accidents hth
< 1456305920 313130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's OK
< 1456305935 25044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can have fun with the resulting mess
< 1456305939 607843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION treats HackEgo somewhat like Agora

< 1456305952 210929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I haven't managed to scam HackEgo yet
< 1456305961 271915 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What? That's not accurate at all. <-- shhh
< 1456306091 471011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/blob/master/lambdabot-core/src/Lambdabot/IRC.hs#L83-L85
< 1456306120 594491 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1456306147 124236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1456306165 35057 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find brainfuck more readable than haskell
< 1456306165 223410 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a sufficiently dumb one
< 1456306176 572589 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh
< 1456306190 56064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'e even worse when the bots loop talking to each other in private message or on a channel nobody watches
< 1456306424 43425 :benderpc_!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:345e:bfc6:621b:d773 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456306517 98471 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456306530 751534 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456306558 869215 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, i'm pretty sure i can make a HackEgo - lambdabot botloop
< 1456306615 945443 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( putStr "hi"
< 1456306616 387518 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :09io_bind (09prim_write 04"hi") (\13__bindx => 09io_return 04()) : 09IO 12()
< 1456306628 799677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't HackEgo put a thing in front of every line of IRC?
< 1456306644 221027 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know whether idris-bot has any unquoted output mechanism

< 1456306655 961947 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no. not every.
< 1456306707 86986 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where HackEgo 
< 1456306711 92496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about hackego.
< 1456306723 439464 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambdabot 
< 1456306724 550184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src.
< 1456306748 609303 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where+ HackEgo `echo lambdabot
< 1456306749 106456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay.
< 1456306755 389704 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where HackEgo 
< 1456306757 115282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo lambdabot
< 1456306758 38841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot
< 1456306761 559317 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1456306767 350244 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where+ HackEgo `cat lambdabot
< 1456306768 580418 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1456306791 589831 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk lambdabot/lambdabot: ?where HackEgo
< 1456306792 223143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents
< 1456306794 914902 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1456306800 131003 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk lambdabot//lambdabot: ?where HackEgo
< 1456306802 98210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot
< 1456306819 740732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where HackEgo 
< 1456306821 422747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lambdabot
< 1456306822 131454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?where HackEgo
< 1456306823 504430 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lambdabot
< 1456306824 255746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?where HackEgo
< 1456306825 593636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lambdabot
< 1456306826 239812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?where HackEgo
< 1456306827 284832 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm lambdabot 
< 1456306827 954598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `lambdabot ': No such file or directory
< 1456306834 364833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lambdabot
< 1456306835 135954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?where HackEgo
< 1456306836 376829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PART :#esoteric
< 1456306840 468132 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456306849 977108 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm lambdabot
< 1456306851 778308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456306858 746668 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops silly me, left a space at the end
< 1456307024 17199 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456307037 659317 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION briefly wonders if lambdabot left automatically

< 1456307050 75041 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456307077 785650 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i suspect shachaf more
< 1456307433 994692 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456307491 54175 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456307761 55567 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456308956 670289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456309139 481026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there are lots of possible comonoids, since the category of linear thingies is monoidal in at least four ways.
< 1456309152 295124 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456309171 730773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you make monoids with ⊗, maybe you make comonoids with ⅋, its dual.
< 1456309201 186457 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you missed a botloop, see logs
< 1456309232 315980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have to guess at which bots were involved
< 1456309238 129485 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1456309241 848074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, plus a relatively new bot?
< 1456309242 172506 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: define-macro is not standard; this is all based on prior perception that they would have shortened operator to op if it wasn't
< 1456309244 245502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two copies of lambdabot?
< 1456309252 888305 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, nope
< 1456309260 825376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, checking logs, it was lambdabot and hackego
< 1456309280 873280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought hackego would have better bot protection than that
< 1456309292 783898 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_i_ thought lambdabot did :P
< 1456309306 783519 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew about HackEgo's weakness
< 1456309344 135615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo starts lines with a nick, but lambdabot sees that as a prefix
< 1456309374 330910 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456309414 343436 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e you might want to improve lambdabot's message prefixing a bit, we can still make it and HackEgo botloop with ?where
< 1456309416 100171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456309519 544265 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 1
< 1456309525 527615 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1456309528 400393 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1
< 1456309529 128173 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1
< 1456309560 370018 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many new bots that _might_ have a botloop weakness this way
< 1456309577 792205 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know their languages enough to tell
< 1456309586 418541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1456309586 576295 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !
< 1456309592 364829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thutubot/lambdabot could probably do it
< 1456309622 663559 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but thutubot is broken around lambdabot anyway
< 1456309626 51020 :thutubot!~thutubot@147.188.254.209 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456309630 628147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "test"
< 1456309635 341508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "test"
< 1456309635 681932 :thutubot!~thutubot@147.188.254.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "test"
< 1456309642 306614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1456309650 605629 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309660 62731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309660 414859 :thutubot!~thutubot@147.188.254.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309663 659780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309664 483470 :thutubot!~thutubot@147.188.254.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309665 275262 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456309665 903659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309666 236397 :thutubot!~thutubot@147.188.254.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309667 905867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309668 341590 :thutubot!~thutubot@147.188.254.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309670 349354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+quit
< 1456309670 688999 :thutubot!~thutubot@147.188.254.209 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1456309671 907092 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309673 907904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PART :#esoteric
< 1456309677 909907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456309683 272167 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm again
< 1456309697 5627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that certainly looks a lot like some sort of loop protection
< 1456309701 193163 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think possibly lambdabot has another botloop protection
< 1456309710 243141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309710 717332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it left the same way with HackEgo 
< 1456309711 709458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309711 937553 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309713 410708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309713 938637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309714 915046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309715 940099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309716 642711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309718 550621 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309719 320845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309730 775314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309732 798148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309733 215377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309734 714274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309734 872115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PART :#esoteric
< 1456309740 812908 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456309742 74848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how about that for evidence?
< 1456309742 813480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1456309753 983206 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty good
< 1456309774 265054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That last ?where ?where after rejoining seems a bit suboptimal for loop protection.
< 1456309787 768177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was behind by one at the time
< 1456309808 958929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might be able to get a sustained loop past the protection via writing the trigger phrase twice
< 1456309831 17081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I assume one copy disappears with each /cycle
< 1456309876 704137 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit worried there might be a second stage where lambdabot _doesn't_ rejoin
< 1456309918 838988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1456310127 172981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @where+ test @run text "a\nb"
< 1456310145 322078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I see where this is going
< 1456310146 846447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done.
< 1456310148 698853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where test
< 1456310150 851451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b
< 1456310155 840949 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAYL
< 1456310170 608353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of our bots can produce multiple lines of output from one command?
< 1456310181 892732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot can produce multiple lines in some cases.
< 1456310189 840977 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 1+"hi"
< 1456310190 316326 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :12String is not a numeric type
< 1456310197 115425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether any of them can be user-produced.
< 1456310203 211437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>+<<-]>.<.>+.
< 1456310203 959095 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :F
< 1456310206 564259 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot: how uncharacterically brief of you
< 1456310224 928579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>+<<-]>>.<.>+.
< 1456310225 315199 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ F.
< 1456310236 316110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>+<<-]>.>.<+.
< 1456310236 656193 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :F \ G
< 1456310239 427024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go
< 1456310262 207661 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think EgoBot and HackEgo use the same output scheme
< 1456310264 174336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering if there's any way to get a genuine newline out of that
< 1456310276 574630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I seem to remember EgoBot printing three lines and DCCing me the rest
< 1456310285 546143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that's changed since
< 1456310290 664697 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well it does that for !show
< 1456310299 72490 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then
< 1456310305 165001 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo a; echo b
< 1456310305 651133 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b
< 1456310335 866112 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( [1,2]
< 1456310336 506891 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate since no name has a suitable type: 
< 1456310336 743023 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :        04Effects.Env.::, 04Data.HVect.::, 04Prelude.List.::, 04Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, 04Prelude.Stream.::, 04Data.Vect.::
< 1456310363 446088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot: that's more like it :-)
< 1456310387 839535 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure it has any way to produce free format output, though
< 1456310396 630095 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@2001:41d0:51:1::1d31 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1
< 1456310409 368418 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 2 ; 3 4
< 1456310410 173626 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ┌───┬───┐
< 1456310410 331475 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: │1 2│3 4│
< 1456310410 331554 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: └───┴───┘
< 1456310428 442285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…
< 1456310439 726585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has much the same effect on me as XKCD's type comic did
< 1456310449 876519 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456310464 235454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't expect data types to come back at you as ascii art
< 1456310467 708240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, cp437 art
< 1456310502 809513 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ (1; 2) (3; 4)
< 1456310503 568716 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |syntax error
< 1456310503 726944 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |       (1;2)(3;4)
< 1456310509 96077 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ (1; 2); (3; 4)
< 1456310509 811902 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ┌─────┬─┬─┐
< 1456310509 970229 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: │┌─┬─┐│3│4│
< 1456310509 970305 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ││1│2││ │ │
< 1456310509 970337 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: │└─┴─┘│ │ │
< 1456310509 970365 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: └─────┴─┴─┘
< 1456310523 442464 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to want to stack vertically
< 1456310530 111559 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ 1,2 ; 3,4
< 1456310535 827431 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1,2 ; 3,4
< 1456310536 614830 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |domain error
< 1456310536 772789 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |   1    ,2;3,4
< 1456310539 378446 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1456310548 803158 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually knowing J might help
< 1456310551 929741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>+<<-]>.>.<+.
< 1456310555 454960 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :  F
< 1456310557 455992 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :  G
< 1456310638 263016 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, that one _does_ prefix spaces religiously
< 1456310650 706891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we just need a bot that uses space as a prefix :-P
< 1456310659 217357 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1456310706 159252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just get a three-way loop where each bot activates the other two.
< 1456310731 93083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponential botloop
< 1456310732 696738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that'd be as difficult as a command that prints two of the same line.
< 1456310741 471087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where hackego
< 1456310741 976597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lambdabot
< 1456310743 391976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: lambdabot: No such file or directory
< 1456310749 177086 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ "hi"
< 1456310749 907628 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |syntax error
< 1456310750 65863 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |       "hi"
< 1456310754 422175 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'hi'
< 1456310755 178612 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi
< 1456310762 970471 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that looks too easy.
< 1456310764 72432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what about this
< 1456310772 542064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all spam a lot of lambdabot commands for the next several years
< 1456310782 412816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/snackego//echo ':)'
< 1456310784 629242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/snackego
< 1456310787 616028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`snackego
< 1456310788 245916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:)
< 1456310791 524818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so next time fizzie updates the markov chains, fungot has a good chance of coming up with lambdabot commands by accident
< 1456310791 799265 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i tried to make a fnord it increases by 1 at each turn.
< 1456310801 599180 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack
< 1456310802 330156 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>:-D
< 1456310805 609024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fungot won't listen to lambdabot.
< 1456310805 901727 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's wrong with the chicken release at http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ chicken.html chicken scheme
< 1456310813 524102 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: RE: Dundant
< 1456310815 557657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ask boily hth
< 1456310815 778845 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the granularity you fnord of course, but that
< 1456310824 235353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, this is one of the reasons that fungot refuses to answer the same person multiple times in a row, isn't it?
< 1456310824 594402 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/ kelsey93tractable.html, page 5 bottom/ 6 top of a symbolics lisp machine implemented on top of
< 1456310834 681012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it could trigger a fungot/myndzi botloop
< 1456310835 74941 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why doesn't it add phrases from the other framework.)
< 1456310844 936477 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot: 2
< 1456310849 219510 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot: ( 2
< 1456310849 691231 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :042 : 12Integer
< 1456310863 481290 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: 'hi'
< 1456310864 249027 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi
< 1456310866 683222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where+ test [ '?where test'
< 1456310875 460881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1456310877 361873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456310878 924954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ '?where test'
< 1456310892 820312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ '?where test'
< 1456310893 464890 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ?where test
< 1456310900 562029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I believe j-bot + lamdabot could create a botloop like this, but there's no obvious way to get it started
< 1456310903 622484 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that didn't work as expected
< 1456310916 747079 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think shachaf just made one that should have worked
< 1456310919 411476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they each ping the person who made the request
< 1456310928 514206 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, lambdabot doesn't
< 1456310933 388110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1456310938 467892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where+ test j-bot: '?where test'
< 1456310942 781365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot just ignored lambdabot?
< 1456310944 182684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know.
< 1456310945 147393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456310945 305672 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '?where test'
< 1456310951 175133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it has an ignore list
< 1456310960 188876 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks likely
< 1456310988 988841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1456310989 146974 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !
< 1456311006 770711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't know about j-bot?
< 1456311007 91208 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: depends on the context, and lambdas. also, it has no provisions for running out of memory...
< 1456311116 558548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^prefixes is world-editable, I believe
< 1456311121 436190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul `r```````````.j.-.b.o.t.:. .'.h.i.'i
< 1456311121 594395 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...bad insn!
< 1456311142 256698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^define ul prefixes ^(Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! , j-bot [)S
< 1456311142 414834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^define prefixes ul ^(Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! , j-bot [)S
< 1456311142 414932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does unlambda work twh
< 1456311157 867914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was thinking its ignore list is based on that.
< 1456311160 806924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not.
< 1456311167 558085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably not with the command used for underload
< 1456311173 54729 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1456311173 237668 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !
< 1456311182 51928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't fungot do unlambda?
< 1456311182 413392 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'll do some work for who was a hardcore vegan for purely ideological reasons, and making my way through fnord right now
< 1456311187 134830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I thinking of the wrong bot?
< 1456311188 561127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help
< 1456311188 719052 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def   ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
< 1456311190 239203 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, it does underload
< 1456311198 52468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot does unlambda
< 1456311207 559313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `r```````````.j.-.b.o.t.:. .'.h.i.'i
< 1456311207 947239 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: 'hi'
< 1456311208 640286 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: hi
< 1456311220 856928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! unlambda `r```````````.j.-.b.o.t.:. .'.h.i.'i
< 1456311221 775518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: 'hi'
< 1456311222 466838 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: hi
< 1456311234 677751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and HackEgo because it has all (or almost all?) EgoBot's interps
< 1456311243 614800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And lambdabot.
< 1456311263 157171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda `r```````````.j.-.b.o.t.:. .'.h.i.'i
< 1456311264 258913 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :  j-bot: 'hi'
< 1456311296 592271 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1
< 1456311302 688198 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1456311302 846511 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !
< 1456311329 709541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def prefixes ul ^(Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! , j-bot [)S
< 1456311329 868896 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1456311333 590713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1456311333 749023 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of stack!
< 1456311346 975055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def prefixes ul (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! , j-bot [)S
< 1456311347 133138 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1456311350 361391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1456311350 519613 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! , j-bot [
< 1456311352 638747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go
< 1456311378 269909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is jconn?
< 1456311378 881850 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i believe the spacing is incorrect hth
< 1456311388 941055 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn was the old j-bot 
< 1456311394 987487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was copying the spacing towards the end
< 1456311402 630642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we can't delete the ) for reasons you are fully aware of
< 1456311423 546469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we've had 3 J bots at various times
< 1456311427 347694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The obvious thing to do is to make a bot with prefix ,
< 1456311429 499779 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i think blsqbot died at one point
< 1456311430 105541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn, j-bot, and evalj
< 1456311433 718818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the spacing will be justified.
< 1456311488 861740 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, j-bot needs the space, while afair blsqbot didn't.
< 1456311512 281005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see
< 1456311520 217767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect the spaces to be quoted
< 1456311530 225965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is tempted to `le/rn lambdabot/lambdabot: ?where HackEgo

< 1456311530 664411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, copied literally with no visible quoting
< 1456311551 374647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where would the `? come from? lambdabot's data stores?
< 1456311553 445012 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def prefixes ul (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .)S
< 1456311553 628261 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1456311560 265524 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1456311560 470874 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
< 1456311575 394780 :benderpc_!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:345e:bfc6:621b:d773 NICK :bender|
< 1456311575 774790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ?where HackEgo would need to be fixed too, I guess.
< 1456311586 797093 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it seemed a bit verbose to include actual quotes
< 1456311595 877623 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes
< 1456311596 569249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !
< 1456311596 727928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also ambiguous
< 1456311603 314482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just drop the commas hth
< 1456311620 422813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need a bot which uses ctrl-a as a prefix
< 1456311621 961036 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/blsq.*/j-bot [ ./' bin/prefixes
< 1456311624 429515 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456311628 163200 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes
< 1456311628 852964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/prefixes: 3: /hackenv/bin/prefixes: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
< 1456311632 417123 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1456311638 474745 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/prefixes
< 1456311638 819696 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456311639 121259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
< 1456311644 295452 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456311670 30834 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i "2s/$/'/" bin/prefixes
< 1456311671 899467 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456311674 935510 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes
< 1456311675 625757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
< 1456311686 971268 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show prefixes
< 1456311687 404250 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !'
< 1456311697 315768 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp prefixes
< 1456311697 647625 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter prefixes deleted.
< 1456311722 901506 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp prefixes sh echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .'
< 1456311723 187391 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: gp works quite well. so the first element
< 1456311723 353209 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter prefixes installed.
< 1456311730 780265 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!prefixes
< 1456311731 244621 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
< 1456311747 410067 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please ^save twh
< 1456311751 791661 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Read error: No route to host
< 1456311790 925273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` >bin/prefixes (echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo 'tail -n+2 "$0"; exit'; echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .')
< 1456311791 280829 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i typed it into the calculator with that horrible thing in exercise 1.11 has anything to do with an esoteric language
< 1456311791 807188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `>bin/prefixes (echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo 'tail -n+2 "$0"; exit'; echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .')'
< 1456311826 942727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` >bin/prefixes echo $'#!/bin/sh\ntail -n+2 "$0"; exit\nBot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .'
< 1456311827 315816 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i found an analogy that lament might like... hanging out talking to you...
< 1456311828 924003 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456311832 776698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes
< 1456311834 506462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail -n+2 "$0"; exit \ Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
< 1456311856 704565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 2s/2/3/ bin/prefixes
< 1456311858 737690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456311859 491168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes
< 1456311860 147028 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
< 1456311864 959029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just #!/bin/tail ?
< 1456311882 249777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you make that print just the last line?
< 1456311887 852223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess you're allowed one argument.
< 1456311897 827929 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456311901 320889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: -n1, for example
< 1456311915 611321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually sometimes you get more, it depends on the OS
< 1456311927 850145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to #! lines not allowing any arguments, but of course they allow one, just not space separation.
< 1456311935 636825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is running Linux.
< 1456311962 617907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` >bin/prefixes echo $'#!/bin/tail -n1\nBot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .'
< 1456311962 776233 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ( which is rather perverse."
< 1456311964 653431 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456311966 722067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes
< 1456311967 355287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: /hackenv/bin/prefixes: /bin/tail: bad interpreter: No such file or directory \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/prefixes: Success
< 1456311973 105876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type tail
< 1456311973 910012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail is /usr/bin/tail
< 1456311978 146427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` >bin/prefixes echo $'#!/usr/bin/tail -n1\nBot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .'
< 1456311978 574407 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if it had been scratched and hit a couple of days in a year. and i'd like to
< 1456311980 12153 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456311981 201425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes
< 1456311981 819209 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
< 1456311987 340746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thx tdh
< 1456312034 849826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/olist | rot13
< 1456312035 595390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ funpuns \ brewna \ Ftrb \ SverSyl \ obvyl \ abeggv \ o_wbanf
< 1456312045 447927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/emptylist
< 1456312046 182591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1456312064 80528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist is actually echoing the command used to prompt it in the first place
< 1456312081 473542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I wrote olist.
< 1456312090 588446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's really necessary.
< 1456312095 294202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, does "funpuns" ping you? and "brewna" looks something like a real nick too, even though my limited rot13-reading ability implies it's probably oerjan)
< 1456312104 804475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does.
< 1456312117 597384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm in here anyway. I was trying not to ping others.
< 1456312127 789201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know
< 1456312134 982623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just something to know in the future if I use the same trick
< 1456312163 43529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits
< 1456312166 192603 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs
< 1456312172 477961 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION jnirf

< 1456312176 247615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there a standalone command for that sed thing?
< 1456312197 895847 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unping
< 1456312207 316917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/unping: No such file or directory
< 1456312211 417656 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that
< 1456312217 333137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep x0F bin
< 1456312218 667313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/culprits:hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs
< 1456312224 622939 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*ping*
< 1456312226 850483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/noping \ bin/ping
< 1456312231 557910 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/noping
< 1456312233 277566 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" | sed 's/\(..\)/\1​/g'
< 1456312235 725775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ping
< 1456312238 129056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ echo pong
< 1456312242 82945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`noping shachaf
< 1456312244 851591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh​ac​ha​f
< 1456312262 81655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/noping | xxd
< 1456312264 171809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 7072 696e 745f 6172 6773 5f6f 725f 696e  print_args_or_in \ 0000010: 7075 7420 2224 4022 207c 2073 6564 2027  put "$@" | sed ' \ 0000020: 732f 5c28 2e2e 5c29 2f5c 31e2 808b 2f67  s/\(..\)/\1.../g \ 0000030: 270a                                     '.
< 1456312282 581498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`noping ais523
< 1456312284 899115 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai​s5​23​
< 1456312293 506706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` noping ais523 | od -t x1z
< 1456312295 451203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 61 69 e2 80 8b 73 35 e2 80 8b 32 33 e2 80 8b 0a  >ai...s5...23....< \ 0000020
< 1456312307 708501 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist is actually echoing the command used to prompt it in the first place <-- there's a template list somewhere you can just copy
< 1456312357 98477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is `list working, btw?
< 1456312359 190441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456312362 265045 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /var/irclogs/_esoteric/201[3-9]-??-??.txt: No such file or directory
< 1456312366 64521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not
< 1456312367 360417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :noping seems to have too much overhead.
< 1456312372 222487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we should go back to the original implementation
< 1456312374 861428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list was a scow command anyway.
< 1456312380 137630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a great command
< 1456312381 6607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad it's gone.
< 1456312404 586638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I mean, it was clearly ridiculous
< 1456312407 196199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People ought to be able to unsubscribe from things like that.
< 1456312411 558471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably worked better if you didn't know how it worked
< 1456312459 168063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What was the original implementation?
< 1456312469 153490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mutated a text file when run, rather than grepping the logs
< 1456312476 356364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how would it get your nick?
< 1456312485 676772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it checked the logs for that, and thus was vulnerable to race conditions
< 1456312489 753942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you `listed just before someone else spoke
< 1456312491 1009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that `list couldn't work without logs, but now I realize that it can.
< 1456312498 541434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would mutate itself and then print its own culprits.
< 1456312503 933173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, culprits!
< 1456312507 722195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I think it can work
< 1456312517 716595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/list
< 1456312522 78771 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : noping seems to have too much overhead. <-- i tried to put them just dense enough; even now ^v could theoretically get pinged but i figured i'd have to put the foot down somewhere
< 1456312523 168304 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett oerjan elliott oerjan Phantom__Hoover elliott Sgeo Phantom_Hoover tswett elliott elliott tswett tswett elliott tswett boily boily metasepia tswett Ngevd oerjan elliott oerjan elliott Sgeo oklopol nortti elliott shachaf elliott Phantom_Hoover monqy Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover shachaf Phantom_Hoove
< 1456312523 886550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or mutate some text file.
< 1456312528 849752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have to be itself.
< 1456312533 515055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot of edits
< 1456312552 978765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Just put one filler character before the last character.
< 1456312556 909825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like culprits does.
< 1456312605 150509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a talk here today that doesn't interest me that much but might interest #esoteric
< 1456312607 665939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch bin/list
< 1456312608 307474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456312610 714688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/list
< 1456312613 478566 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett oerjan elliott oerjan Phantom__Hoover elliott Sgeo Phantom_Hoover tswett elliott elliott tswett tswett elliott tswett boily boily metasepia tswett Ngevd oerjan elliott oerjan elliott Sgeo oklopol nortti elliott shachaf elliott Phantom_Hoover monqy Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover shachaf Phantom_Hoove
< 1456312622 246795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, of course that wouldn't affect it.
< 1456312646 673567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's talking about how the law of excluded middle implies the existence of a polymorphic function f : (forall a.a -> a) for which f true = false and f false = true
< 1456312661 369354 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It would mutate itself and then print its own culprits. <-- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1456312668 279118 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456312685 371352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that the opposite is also true (if such a function exists, then the law of excluded middle holds)
< 1456312692 230495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why does that annoy you that much?
< 1456312728 874981 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's just that i carefully managed to stay off the original `list :P
< 1456312737 898035 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afair anyway
< 1456312754 28332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to stay off the original original `list
< 1456312761 984141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but got retroactively placed on it when it was changed to be log-based
< 1456312767 866650 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1456312768 24419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I didn't care so much about staying off it
< 1456312779 710664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list
< 1456312780 360797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ grep '^..:..:..: <[^>]*> `list' /var/irclogs/_esoteric/201[3-9]-??-??.txt | sed 's/^.*.*//;s/_*$//' | sort -u | tr '\n' ' '
< 1456312860 799825 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, but can't the parenthesis be quoted somehow? I mean, isn't the definition in unefunge, which can print anything you want?
< 1456312919 433396 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Just put one filler character before the last character. <-- the problem with that is people sometimes have characters they ignore at the end rather than the beginning, like _
< 1456312935 882509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Put one at the beginning and one at the end.
< 1456312938 175743 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even at both ends like \oren\ 
< 1456312954 877409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/list//echo $(($(cat conscripts)+1)) > conscripts; culprits conscripts
< 1456312957 3042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/list
< 1456312968 64437 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, is tail another of those moving executables like env which are sometimes in /bin and sometimes in /usr/bin and you can't tell which so you can't write portable hashbangs?
< 1456312975 508330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to enlist
< 1456312988 262619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not sure that'll work if conscripts isn't an existing file
< 1456312998 74992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess it does, you juts get a stderr message on the first conscript
< 1456313002 93462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll print an error the first time.
< 1456313027 460843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The advantage of this `list is that it nopings.
< 1456313030 756430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't mind it.
< 1456313056 222479 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, it's in underload, which cannot print unbalanced ()
< 1456313072 194781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/list//date > conscripts; culprits conscripts
< 1456313074 298532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/list
< 1456313123 959091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess it should uniq the culprits.
< 1456313151 479773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of esolangs starting with l
< 1456313171 935975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise culprits nopinged
< 1456313187 522469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/mothballs
< 1456313189 861714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456313192 124853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456313194 920742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/mothball
< 1456313197 369989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456313198 797194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/moth
< 1456313201 447801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 int-e
< 1456313207 715614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even remember my own wisdom entries now
< 1456313208 818138 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : who wants to enlist <-- i somewhat dislike adding more permanent single files to HackEgo's top directory hth
< 1456313212 582643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, that's nopinged
< 1456313218 803184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good thing no one enlisted yet
< 1456313223 769420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: put it somewhere else
< 1456313225 4698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you could delete them right after and it'd still work
< 1456313258 235230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... underload
< 1456313258 431644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls --color
< 1456313259 67053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456313259 225440 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 03(* \ 99 \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ close \ *) \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ dog \ echo-p \ emoticons \ equations \ etc \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ grph \ hw \ ibin \ ifc
< 1456313260 112373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa
< 1456313275 698682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need a vt100-to-irc translator
< 1456313277 698981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize until now that HackEgo did ANSI colors.
< 1456313284 883148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls does ANSI colors
< 1456313289 862805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego doesn't
< 1456313291 949368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the raw vt100 getting spouted to the channel
< 1456313292 137073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, and HackEgo translates them to IRC.
< 1456313298 959134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, maybe it doesn't.
< 1456313300 426287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't
< 1456313307 372680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a literal esc[01;34m
< 1456313308 641447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi handles ANSI colors in IRC?
< 1456313315 17589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi may just be echoing directly
< 1456313323 375059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it might be parsing it
< 1456313338 11390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`printf \x1b[J
< 1456313338 724144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​
< 1456313338 882066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised. OK.
< 1456313348 675521 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsmreclist?
< 1456313350 434516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that didn't clear your screen, it's parsing color codes specifically
< 1456313364 26581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't clear my screen.
< 1456313370 171974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it did and irssi redrew, who knows.
< 1456313382 380425 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or even at both ends like \oren\ <-- in fact i would be affected myself as oerjan_
< 1456313382 804105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt it just prints things like that into the terminal raw.
< 1456313419 70915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls .hg/store/data/
< 1456313420 231012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~02welcome.i \ ~0301,08yellow~03.i \ ~0303(~2a.i \ ~0305(~2a.i \ = 0 .i \ 0.i \ 113500.i \ 1.i \ 20131230-coin.jpg.d \ 20131230-coin.jpg.i \ ~2a)~03.i \ 2.i \ ~3a-_d.i \ ~3a-(.i \ 503.i \ ~7f~2a)~03.i \ 8ballreplies.i \ 98076.i \ 99.i \ a \ aaaa.i \ abc.i \ accesslog.i \ a.c.i \ a.i \ alise.i \ alphabet.i \ a.o.i \ a.out.i \ app.sh.i \ argv.py.i
< 1456313426 65516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think there's a specific workaround for ls, because ls doesn't know about terminfo or control codes, it just takes them from an env-var that's normally generated by another program that understands terminfo, or something
< 1456313438 668343 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I don't like colored ls, so I'm not sure about the details
< 1456313461 273807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the separate command is dircolors )
< 1456313469 75493 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm...
< 1456313481 376813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`printf \x1b[5mtest
< 1456313481 982286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test
< 1456313487 957260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what does that look like?
< 1456313495 357428 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's even possible to write a terminfo file that lets programs output IRC color codes?
< 1456313503 697534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the word test.
< 1456313504 331404 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how much the terminfo library would like that
< 1456313522 262903 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, is that supposed to be blinking? try bold instead
< 1456313523 967071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or red
< 1456313526 559613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK, it's definitely parsing rather than just relaying m commands
< 1456313531 216425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in which case it'd be blinking)
< 1456313542 314597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my terminal can blink.
< 1456313549 237057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway I was expecting it to parse.
< 1456313568 130916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tty
< 1456313568 772666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/tty1
< 1456313582 489473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`printf \x1b[1mbold \x1b[0;2mitalic \x1b[0;4munderscore
< 1456313583 199842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​bold italic underscore
< 1456313587 911680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -wewarn "isatty=", (-T), ";"
< 1456313590 204015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use of uninitialized value $_ in -T at -e line 1. \ Use of uninitialized value in warn at -e line 1. \ isatty=; at -e line 1.
< 1456313609 972885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think italic's 2, maybe it's 3
< 1456313611 611527 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -wefor$k(keys%ENV){$ENV{$k}=~/jonas/i and print "$k=$ENV{$k} "}
< 1456313612 622593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456313617 746276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`printf \x1b[1mbold \x1b[0;2;3mitalic \x1b[0;4munderscore
< 1456313618 644842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​bold italic underscore
< 1456313633 617838 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456313659 682065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if HackEgo passed the irc line that invoked it in some env-var
< 1456313670 120222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we could find out both the command and the invoker and the channel easily
< 1456313673 123349 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list
< 1456313673 470068 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456313673 885022 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date > conscripts; culprits conscripts
< 1456313701 269389 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's!conscripts!share/conscripts!g' bin/list
< 1456313703 889965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456313707 105252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls share
< 1456313708 418474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8ballreplies \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ cat \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello2.c \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ UnicodeData.txt \ units.dat \ WordData
< 1456313719 608323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there we go
< 1456313741 119756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it'd be kind-of funny if we waited until everyone had forgotten about this and then someone went "I wonder what happened to `list?"
< 1456313798 540059 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection
< 1456313801 462443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection.
< 1456313812 614461 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/reflection
< 1456313814 468864 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 18 Dec  9 04:13 wisdom/reflection -> /proc/self/cmdline
< 1456313845 440261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: culprits still needs to be sorted and uniqed or something
< 1456313854 150513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the trouble is that it prints all the culprits on one line rather than one per line
< 1456313885 958709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can xargs do the reverse transformation to its usual one?
< 1456313906 271132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so.
< 1456313911 601415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'a b c d e f g' | xargs -n 1
< 1456313913 412663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g
< 1456313915 84216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can
< 1456313926 778381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, hmm.
< 1456313944 110948 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello y'all. y'ello.
< 1456313952 218561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's!$! | xargs -n 1 | sort -u | xargs' bin/list
< 1456313952 923831 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 35: unterminated `s' command
< 1456313954 577136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to do that once and I ended up using a loop in bash for some reason.
< 1456313956 619606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's!$! | xargs -n 1 | sort -u | xargs!' bin/list
< 1456313957 630198 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you guys up to? are you destroying the culprits command?
< 1456313958 537176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456313969 27931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why don't you `list and find out hth
< 1456313971 325895 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '! ! !' | xargs -n 1
< 1456313972 213124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! \ ! \ !
< 1456313974 768264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, we're reimplementing `list
< 1456313988 958548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was broken
< 1456313989 970814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list
< 1456313990 680637 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date > share/conscripts; culprits share/conscripts | xargs -n 1 | sort -u | xargs
< 1456314006 723129 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In buubot, I made the nick of the invocant and the channel (and some other similar stuff) accessible to buubot macros through the buubot command "arg"
< 1456314043 727262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what if bin/list printed the culprits of conscripts into conscripts?
< 1456314066 926788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you would need an extra run to be properly subscribed?
< 1456314075 727616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wg. try /msg perlbot compose (echo chan=(arg &c) nick=(arg &n))
< 1456314088 102859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wg./eg./
< 1456314088 649416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really see the point, it's not like we need to backup the VCS's metadata inside the directories being versioned
< 1456314101 482228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want a canonical thing to put in the file.
< 1456314110 864034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :date is a hack
< 1456314126 742222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: pid?
< 1456314131 906339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1456314138 724011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want one that's always different?
< 1456314148 124380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1456314174 901321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` openssl rand -base64 32
< 1456314176 171766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: can't open config file: /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf \ bxd0jDsvTIaU9pHRBu2ejhGxFwt9j7ERxeZVS//Qh6A=
< 1456314179 322911 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1456314185 278942 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` openssl rand -base64 32
< 1456314185 534866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` openssl rand -base64 32
< 1456314186 194942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: can't open config file: /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf \ Gz4O3uQRsEW0DQGn8BMip9gAtJjvQilIqNRmZn60qrA=
< 1456314186 484465 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: can't open config file: /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf \ mNEsg6wleDYweOS1GGI0Ym+7Go9GWFtME1Ok6d3eA5s=
< 1456314207 368338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` od -N32 /dev/random
< 1456314210 978288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that consuming entropy?
< 1456314211 692197 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, list got replaced with a new list
< 1456314214 568412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what does ``` do?
< 1456314221 19004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: old one was broken
< 1456314224 507436 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1456314225 293324 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ``` is the same as `` but clears the locale
< 1456314235 386437 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever to implement it as culprits
< 1456314236 41510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's C rather than newzealandish?
< 1456314237 948624 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456314244 526899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: something like that
< 1456314246 646763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` locale
< 1456314247 693128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ
< 1456314248 859298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` locale
< 1456314249 666946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=C \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="C" \ LC_NUMERIC="C" \ LC_TIME="C" \ LC_COLLATE="C" \ LC_MONETARY="C" \ LC_MESSAGES="C" \ LC_PAPER="C" \ LC_NAME="C" \ LC_ADDRESS="C" \ LC_TELEPHONE="C" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="C" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" \ LC_ALL=
< 1456314252 473322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it has the problem that nobody dares test whether it works
< 1456314266 224498 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a problem, yes
< 1456314277 365456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what boily is for.
< 1456314288 936596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pushing buttons without finding out what they do first
< 1456314295 311120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1456314300 433252 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456314300 591374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? list
< 1456314305 997497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456314307 647245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list is a fun program that HackEgo has! Run it with `list and join the fun!
< 1456314318 112333 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... if I push it harder...
< 1456314319 448325 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456314324 352141 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily
< 1456314328 459885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations!
< 1456314328 940293 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :D
< 1456314365 123156 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1456314380 58796 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynamello. SCIENCE!
< 1456314380 822830 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456314392 858724 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456314393 709759 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1456314393 967561 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chelloken_jonas.
< 1456314398 119110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily
< 1456314403 15200 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm.
< 1456314403 718445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @where+ test @run text "`list"
< 1456314406 110053 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PART :#esoteric
< 1456314410 59467 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nice!
< 1456314414 595884 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have +n mode now?
< 1456314416 872847 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit scow that it only changes for the next person
< 1456314423 9787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's delayed by one cycle
< 1456314432 977809 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1456314434 880357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think I might be missing lambdabot perms
< 1456314438 775857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456314442 225733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what's a +n? )
< 1456314443 17997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run is just really slow.
< 1456314443 903853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily chicken_jonas
< 1456314448 348172 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1456314449 230975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you need one more cycle?
< 1456314452 583015 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456314454 559368 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456314454 950005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get it to join the `listing
< 1456314459 614814 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list again
< 1456314459 772600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily chicken_jonas myname
< 1456314465 479060 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah hagb4rd discovered it was off and started using it to get around his ban
< 1456314466 108091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily chicken_jonas myname
< 1456314466 266022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a pity you weren't around at 02:46
< 1456314466 865495 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list and again
< 1456314467 830979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:46  shachaf: what's wrong with the chicken release at http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ chicken.html chicken scheme                   │
< 1456314472 918513 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily chicken_jonas myname
< 1456314482 994226 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may regret that
< 1456314497 993363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where test
< 1456314498 151310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456314504 722534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily chicken_jonas myname
< 1456314510 673882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it doesn't ping any more
< 1456314520 700649 :chicken_jonas!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Client Quit
< 1456314532 961650 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which 02:46? UTC?
< 1456314544 520169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf standard time
< 1456314545 804532 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a bit more funny with ping because even if you can annoy people with it, you will get annoyed later
< 1456314572 486704 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, can we just dos it by giving enough different nicknames starting with A that they fill the line?
< 1456314593 615301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it sorted by date of first list?
< 1456314604 975203 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point
< 1456314609 598387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now it's sorted alphabetically.
< 1456314612 948763 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : also I think I might be missing lambdabot perms <-- no, you just loaded, you didn't shoot hth
< 1456314614 713481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits bin/list | xargs -n 1 | sort -u | xargs
< 1456314617 947478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456314618 752271 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fungot Jafet metasepia monqy Ngevd nortti oerjan oklopol Phantom__Hoover Phantom_Hoover pikhq Sgeo Sgeo_ shachaf Taneb tswett
< 1456314619 906836 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was still asleep at that time, 14 minutes before my phone alarm.
< 1456314628 526330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually what happened was that my connection was lagging
< 1456314637 747927 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it's sorted by new-zealand locale
< 1456314654 233385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` culprits bin/list | xargs -n 1 | sort -u | xargs
< 1456314658 682813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike Jafet Ngevd Phantom_Hoover Phantom__Hoover Sgeo Sgeo_ Taneb ais523 boily cuttlefish elliott fungot metasepia monqy nortti oerjan oklopol pikhq shachaf tswett
< 1456314671 770961 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's brainfuck competition day aaaah
< 1456314676 698080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I didn't get a response for a while
< 1456314676 855959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my complaint may also have been delayed
< 1456314677 671463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1456314685 37990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. aaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
< 1456314710 671888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you want to `list hth
< 1456314740 958003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo A K Z a k z [ \\ ] ^ _ \` { \| } ~ 0 1 5 9 - | tr \  \\n | sort 
< 1456314741 702921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ^ \ | \ _ \ - \ [ \ ] \ { \ } \ \ \ 0 \ 1 \ 5 \ 9 \ a \ A \ k \ K \ /tmp \ z \ Z
< 1456314750 575395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo A K Z a k z [ \\ ] ^ _ \` { \| } ~ 0 1 5 9 - | tr \  \\n | sort | tr \\n \ 
< 1456314751 307882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` ^ | _ - [ ] { } \ 0 1 5 9 a A k K /tmp z Z
< 1456314774 416209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo A K Z a k z [ \\ ] ^ _ \` { \| } ~ 0 1 5 9 - \`m | tr \  \\n | sort | tr \\n \ 
< 1456314775 514315 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` ^ | _ - [ ] { } \ 0 1 5 9 a A k K `m /tmp z Z
< 1456314780 190975 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf /tmp
< 1456314791 813685 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456314798 514464 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ~
< 1456314803 815648 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo A K Z a k z [ \\ ] ^ _ \` { \| } \~ 0 1 5 9 - \`m | tr \  \\n | sort | tr \\n \ 
< 1456314804 788686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` ^ ~ | _ - [ ] { } \ 0 1 5 9 a A k K `m z Z
< 1456314814 793534 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I've listed in the past
< 1456314839 686752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's a new opportunity for enlistment
< 1456314847 619631 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo A K Z a k z [ \\ ] ^ _ \` { \| } \~ 0 1 5 9 - \`m ^m \~m \|m _m -m \[m \]m \{m \}m \\m 0m 1m 5m 9m | tr \  \\n | sort | tr \\n \ 
< 1456314848 643686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` ^ ~ | _ - [ ] { } \ 0 0m 1 1m 5 5m 9 9m a A k K `m ^m ~m |m _m -m [m ]m {m }m \m z Z
< 1456314897 423592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo A K Z a k z a\`a a-a am | tr \  \\n | sort | tr \\n \ 
< 1456314898 423228 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a A a`a a-a am k K z Z
< 1456314901 817601 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: could you `list please? we give out free fnords today! limited time offer!
< 1456314902 61016 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we have an element, we're ready to call the brainfuck datastructure? tape?
< 1456314926 836477 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's Taneb who's ready to call the brainfuck.
< 1456314927 69080 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: datum and data are so very painful in structure
< 1456314930 530479 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so we need nicks something like a`a`a`a probably
< 1456314941 759398 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 NICK :a`a`a`a
< 1456314944 860095 :a`a`a`a!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456314950 832816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily chicken_jonas lambdabot myname
< 1456314955 422180 :a`a`a`a!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 NICK :boily
< 1456314955 837948 :a`a`a`a`jonas0!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456314965 938651 :a`a`a`a`jonas0!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list me
< 1456314972 471857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a boily chicken_jonas lambdabot myname
< 1456314994 37432 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still pings
< 1456315010 108006 :a`a`a`a`jonas0!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo1as
< 1456315015 414762 :a`a`a`a`jo1as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list me
< 1456315022 952035 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a a`a`a`a`jonas0 boily chicken_jonas lambdabot myname
< 1456315027 617452 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doooooiiing
< 1456315046 563428 :a`a`a`a`jo1as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: trying to dos
< 1456315055 116666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you gotta sabotage it
< 1456315057 265080 :a`a`a`a`jo1as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: by filling up the whole irc line
< 1456315090 584381 :a`a`a`a`jo1as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I think it backfired on me though, because actually just "jonas" pings me, although I might have to refine that rule because it gives too much 
< 1456315100 451020 :a`a`a`a`jo1as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :false positives on some chans
< 1456315126 346624 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jonas is so big, it can hold several tb od data
< 1456315126 596673 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: izabellora! join the conscription! be part of a Great Project!
< 1456315134 459959 :a`a`a`a`jo1as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, only \bjonas\b actually, but still
< 1456315136 89906 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what great project?
< 1456315151 696925 :a`a`a`a`jo1as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo2as
< 1456315159 579115 :a`a`a`a`jo2as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list me too
< 1456315165 887184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 boily chicken_jonas lambdabot myname
< 1456315173 963673 :a`a`a`a`jo2as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo3as
< 1456315184 487549 :a`a`a`a`jo3as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list everypony
< 1456315188 166405 :a`a`a`a`jo3as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo4as
< 1456315190 883863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jonas0 boily chicken_jonas lambdabot myname
< 1456315196 260905 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably easier if you set up a bot...
< 1456315200 204975 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least quicker
< 1456315205 774734 :a`a`a`a`jo4as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list soon the too many nick changes rule will trigger on freenode
< 1456315212 681855 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jonas0 boily chicken_jonas lambdabot myname
< 1456315242 71056 :a`a`a`a`jo4as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: freenode has a rule on how fast it allows nick changes, so I can't do it fast anyway
< 1456315244 135063 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everypony: wasn't it Vermin Supreme who said that?
< 1456315258 77561 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a`jo4as: surely you can use multiple users?
< 1456315269 714435 :a`a`a`a`jo4as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, HackEgo output lines have a short enough caps, so it's not that difficult this way either
< 1456315270 578862 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION teaches ddosing 101

< 1456315275 826227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/sort -u/awk '\''!x[$0]++'\''/' bin/list
< 1456315278 734324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456315291 328645 :a`a`a`a`jo4as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo5as
< 1456315300 972703 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: `lost
< 1456315304 55117 :a`a`a`a`jo5as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list 
< 1456315308 858517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname boily
< 1456315323 427357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why are the numbers sorted backwards?
< 1456315335 185905 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list
< 1456315335 815998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date > share/conscripts; culprits share/conscripts | xargs -n 1 | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs
< 1456315337 404858 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they count backwards in new zealand
< 1456315343 430204 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the southern hemisphere after all
< 1456315349 492027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly++
< 1456315352 553994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes perfect sense to me
< 1456315364 310267 :andrew!~andrew@119.137.85.96 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456315374 507607 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs -n 1  is a crappy way to split a line
< 1456315396 1021 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually fold -1
< 1456315401 343085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 0 1 2 3 a0 a1 a2 a3 a0b a1k a2t a3f | tr \  \\n | sort | tr \\n \ 
< 1456315402 346349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 1 2 3 a0 a0b a1 a1k a2 a2t a3 a3f
< 1456315414 171064 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er hm, no
< 1456315420 326151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: some people use awk '{print$1}'
< 1456315430 534557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess just tr \  \\n
< 1456315431 819166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456315437 113581 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's sorted by date now?
< 1456315445 980091 :a`a`a`a`jo5as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo6as
< 1456315450 274847 :a`a`a`a`jo6as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list 
< 1456315452 601478 :a`a`a`a`jo6as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo3as
< 1456315453 224233 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it
< 1456315454 262219 :a`a`a`a`jo3as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list 
< 1456315455 799351 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname boily
< 1456315460 456513 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname boily
< 1456315473 912546 :a`a`a`a`jo3as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo8as
< 1456315475 689877 :a`a`a`a`jo8as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list 
< 1456315478 179545 :a`a`a`a`jo8as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :a`a`a`a`jo7as
< 1456315483 67466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname boily
< 1456315489 322438 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never in my life was I so much pinged in such a short time... I feel dirty...
< 1456315501 73917 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hi
< 1456315505 142529 :a`a`a`a`jo7as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list 
< 1456315512 225689 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: bleh :P
< 1456315512 614718 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey boily 
< 1456315512 799547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname boily
< 1456315518 906582 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: flblblblblbl :P
< 1456315524 763444 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :to you too
< 1456315524 922095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! it's sorted backwards by _latest_ access
< 1456315529 491226 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the dosing can't work
< 1456315533 892923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe you'd better `list again just to be on the safe side hth
< 1456315535 67986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least only afterwards
< 1456315544 211840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because anyone who lists will get to the front immediately
< 1456315546 555918 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456315553 675128 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like to live dangerously.
< 1456315554 19248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname boily
< 1456315554 384571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, that was the goal
< 1456315601 370438 :a`a`a`a`jo7as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in that case
< 1456315603 439663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wanted to deny service, you could also, y'know, `rm bin/list
< 1456315607 936651 :a`a`a`a`jo7as!~a@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Quit: this is useless
< 1456315616 960957 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nah, you'd just revert that
< 1456315629 155172 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would probably even get me on the list since I deleted it
< 1456315629 312764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can always switch from conscripts to another file.
< 1456316026 884764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if that command also printed " To unsubscribe, `unlist " or something?
< 1456316046 250574 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find -name *list*
< 1456316051 742550 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./bdsmreclist \ ./wisdom/bdsmreclist
< 1456316051 900307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find -name "*list*"
< 1456316055 25524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./bin/slist \ ./bin/listen \ ./bin/dontaskdonttelllist \ ./bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist \ ./bin/erflist \ ./bin/olist \ ./bin/flist \ ./bin/makelist \ ./bin/smlist \ ./bin/mlist \ ./bin/FireFlist \ ./bin/emptylist \ ./bin/testlist \ ./bin/llist \ ./bin/list \ ./bin/pbflist \ ./bin/danddreclist \ ./share/lua/5.2/luarocks/list.lua \ ./.hg/store/dh/no
< 1456316073 907053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1456316094 598312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/emptylist
< 1456316095 234141 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1456316102 870008 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type cat
< 1456316103 716266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found
< 1456316107 774082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` type cat
< 1456316108 654435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat is /bin/cat
< 1456316128 30170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456316150 757941 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe1 bin/emptylist
< 1456316151 613973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1456316153 447516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe1 bin/flist
< 1456316154 271206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1456316156 898945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe1 bin/slist
< 1456316157 778863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ Taneb \ atriq \ Ngevd \ nvd \ Fiora \ Sgeo \ ThatOtherPerson \ alot
< 1456316174 134088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you pinging everyone
< 1456316177 923074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1456316178 178262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of rude
< 1456316178 940493 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1456316188 355949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't those things be rot13-encoded _inside?
< 1456316232 35156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe'y/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/' bin/mlist
< 1456316232 732772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Seeing a philosopher
< 1456316237 922977 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe'y/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/' bin/smlist
< 1456316238 686423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$$basename "$0".${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ shachaf \ monqy \ elliott \ mnoqy
< 1456316252 410992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1456316253 172078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that still pings me tdnh
< 1456316255 559298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe'y/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/smlist
< 1456316256 317180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bareword found where operator expected at -e line 1, near "y/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g" \ syntax error at -e line 1, near "y/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g \ " \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
< 1456316261 446476 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/smlist
< 1456316262 245670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t \ s.ha.ch.af \ m.on.qy \ e.ll.io.tt \ m.no.qy
< 1456316282 286729 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there's a pbflist?
< 1456316288 132191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/pbflist
< 1456316288 923772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t \ s.ha.ch.af \ S.ge.o \ q.ui.nt.op.ia \ i.on
< 1456316335 419569 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Ngevd
< 1456316336 90204 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atriq
< 1456316341 886526 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe'$O=shift;open O;print O "b_jonas\n"' bin/pbflist
< 1456316342 595530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ shachaf \ Sgeo \ quintopia \ ion
< 1456316357 803241 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no
< 1456316359 54662 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1456316361 33235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
< 1456316363 275231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :still pinging me
< 1456316382 737799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -we'$O=shift;open O,">>",$O;print O "b_jonas\n"' bin/pbflist
< 1456316384 654389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456316393 839052 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/pbflist
< 1456316394 607341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t \ s.ha.ch.af \ S.ge.o \ q.ui.nt.op.ia \ i.on \ b._j.on.as
< 1456316397 910719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there
< 1456316413 831332 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry everyone for all the pinging
< 1456316443 471338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/flist
< 1456316444 456517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t
< 1456316446 214076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/llist
< 1456316447 51562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t \ d.an.is.h
< 1456316474 140991 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-73-55.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456316475 746910 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TEAM CHICKEN
< 1456316552 966835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e-e($t="bin/wrlist")and die;use File::Copy;copy("bin/flist",$t)
< 1456316553 704186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `perl -e-e($t="bin/wrlist")and die;use File::Copy;copy("bin/flist",$t)'
< 1456316559 320962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e-e($t="bin/wrlist")and die;use File::Copy;copy("bin/flist",$t)
< 1456316561 963717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456316569 714306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/wrlist
< 1456316570 656589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t
< 1456316709 303271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find -name "*list*" | tail -n16
< 1456316712 638321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./src/ploki/list.c \ ./src/ploki/examples/list.pk \ ./src/ploki/list.h \ ./src/ploki/list.depend \ ./bdsmreclist \ ./interps/cfunge/cfunge-src/tools/gen_fprint_list.sh \ ./interps/clc-intercal/inst/lib/perl5/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto/Language/INTERCAL/.packlist \ ./wisdom/herbalist \ ./wisdom/slist \ ./wisdom/kallisti \ ./wisdom/olist \
< 1456316736 46924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find -name "*list*" | sort 
< 1456316739 286758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./.hg/store/data/bdsmreclist..i \ ./.hg/store/data/bdsmreclist.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/_fire_flist.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/danddreclist.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/deletedlist.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/dontaskdonttelllist.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/elist.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/emptylist.i \ ./.hg/stor
< 1456316753 61692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find * -name "*list*" | sort 
< 1456316754 610717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsmreclist \ bin/FireFlist \ bin/danddreclist \ bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist \ bin/dontaskdonttelllist \ bin/emptylist \ bin/erflist \ bin/flist \ bin/list \ bin/listen \ bin/llist \ bin/makelist \ bin/mlist \ bin/olist \ bin/pbflist \ bin/slist \ bin/smlist \ bin/testlist \ bin/wrlist \ interps/cfunge/cfunge-src/tools/gen_fprint_list.sh \ interps/cl
< 1456316757 259901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find * -name "*list*" | sort | tail -n10
< 1456316758 923120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/ploki/list.h \ wisdom/bdsmreclist \ wisdom/danddreclist \ wisdom/herbalist \ wisdom/kallisti \ wisdom/list \ wisdom/olist \ wisdom/slist \ wisdom/smlist \ wisdom/supercalifragilisticexponential growth
< 1456316770 464904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find * -name "*list*" | sort | tail -n-10
< 1456316772 347752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/ploki/list.h \ wisdom/bdsmreclist \ wisdom/danddreclist \ wisdom/herbalist \ wisdom/kallisti \ wisdom/list \ wisdom/olist \ wisdom/slist \ wisdom/smlist \ wisdom/supercalifragilisticexponential growth
< 1456316779 686641 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1456316781 658904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find * -name "*list*" | sort | tail -n+10
< 1456316783 526597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/listen \ bin/llist \ bin/makelist \ bin/mlist \ bin/olist \ bin/pbflist \ bin/slist \ bin/smlist \ bin/testlist \ bin/wrlist \ interps/cfunge/cfunge-src/tools/gen_fprint_list.sh \ interps/clc-intercal/inst/lib/perl5/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto/Language/INTERCAL/.packlist \ share/lua/5.2/luarocks/list.lua \ src/ploki/examples/list.pk \ sr
< 1456316785 556907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456316793 936478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find * -name "*list*" | sort | tail -n+20
< 1456316795 475324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps/cfunge/cfunge-src/tools/gen_fprint_list.sh \ interps/clc-intercal/inst/lib/perl5/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto/Language/INTERCAL/.packlist \ share/lua/5.2/luarocks/list.lua \ src/ploki/examples/list.pk \ src/ploki/list.c \ src/ploki/list.depend \ src/ploki/list.h \ wisdom/bdsmreclist \ wisdom/danddreclist \ wisdom/herbalist \ wisdom/ka
< 1456316846 828131 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find * -name "*list*" | sort | tail -n+30
< 1456316848 497066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/kallisti \ wisdom/list \ wisdom/olist \ wisdom/slist \ wisdom/smlist \ wisdom/supercalifragilisticexponential growth
< 1456316976 833742 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cwd
< 1456316977 509618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cwd: command not found
< 1456316980 61080 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` pwd
< 1456316980 821707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv
< 1456317052 74299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe1 /hackenv/bin/\`\`
< 1456317053 44144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$@"
< 1456317122 676211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eopen$O,">","bin/listlist",755;print$O qq{#!/bin/sh\nset -e\nexport LANG=C\ncd /hackenv/bin;exec ls -dF *[lL]ist*\n};
< 1456317123 519773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :More than one argument to open(,':perlio') at -e line 1.
< 1456317161 208408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eopen$O,">",($c="bin/listlist");print$O qq{#!/bin/sh\nset -e\nexport LANG=C\ncd /hackenv/bin;exec ls -dF *[lL]ist*\n};close$O;chmod $c,0755;
< 1456317163 674833 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456317167 7819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listlist
< 1456317167 776575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/listlist: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/listlist: cannot execute: Permission denied
< 1456317171 653718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save
< 1456317171 815386 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK.
< 1456317187 123065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -ld bin/listlist
< 1456317188 212575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 69 Feb 24 12:32 bin/listlist
< 1456317198 201810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan ^saved htdh
< 1456317198 359781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456317235 982975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e$c="bin/listlist";chmod 0755,$c or die"chmod:$!";
< 1456317238 681302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456317250 238677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listlist
< 1456317251 274371 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist* \ danddreclist* \ don'taskdon'ttelllist@ \ dontaskdonttelllist* \ emptylist* \ erflist* \ flist* \ list* \ listen* \ listlist* \ llist* \ makelist* \ mlist* \ olist* \ pbflist* \ slist* \ smlist* \ testlist* \ wrlist
< 1456317258 535422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid perl, having function arguments backwards 
< 1456317314 807197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/makelist
< 1456317315 527882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.p b.in/e.mp.ty.li.st b.in/"$1"
< 1456317399 15054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -d */
< 1456317399 891750 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ \ emoticons/ \ etc/ \ evil/ \ factor/ \ good/ \ hw/ \ ibin/ \ interps/ \ le/ \ lib/ \ misle/ \ paste/ \ quines/ \ share/ \ src/ \ tmflry/ \ wisdom/
< 1456317426 750732 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -d share/*/ lib/*/ 
< 1456317427 600012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access lib/*/: No such file or directory \ share/WordData/ \ share/delvs-master/ \ share/lua/
< 1456318053 493923 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456318330 441757 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456319789 616014 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456319954 102068 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456320013 568694 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4
< 1456320137 589358 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456320157 661135 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456320258 952272 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456320429 687605 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4
< 1456320506 936498 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456321321 459146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/alist
< 1456321322 508946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open bin/alist: No such file or directory.
< 1456321324 853848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/aglist
< 1456321325 826634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open bin/aglist: No such file or directory.
< 1456321340 486243 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`makelist aglist
< 1456321342 793254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456321345 406831 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/aglist
< 1456321346 113318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t
< 1456321361 767123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/wrlist
< 1456321362 502279 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t
< 1456321439 175029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -efor $comic("ag","wr"){open$O,">>","bin/${comic}list";print$O"b_jonas\n";}
< 1456321441 188661 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String found where operator expected at -e line 1, near "$O"b_jonas\n"" \ 	(Missing operator before "b_jonas\n"?)
< 1456321462 565321 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456321466 712464 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -efor $comic("ag","wr"){open$O,">>","bin/${comic}list";print$O "b_jonas\n";}
< 1456321469 91069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456321478 470549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe's/(\w)(\w)/$1.$2/g' bin/wrlist
< 1456321479 479671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.ch.o -n "$(b.as.en.am.e "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; t.ai.l -n+2 "$0" | x.ar.gs; e.xi.t \ b._j.on.as \ b._j.on.as
< 1456321806 787066 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/FireFlist
< 1456321807 570497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo FireFly Eldis4
< 1456321808 870242 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? giraffefolk
< 1456321809 715797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :giraffefolk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456321811 897002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? merfolk
< 1456321812 809664 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1456321813 132320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merfolk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456321820 275794 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/FireFlist
< 1456321821 877722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? siren
< 1456321822 162726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti nortti
< 1456321822 821595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :siren? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456321824 659102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sphinx
< 1456321825 492167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sphinx? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456321828 129623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? asphinx
< 1456321829 9233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asphinx? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456322014 882979 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSFO
< 1456322026 913287 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 241256Z 00000KT 10SM FEW110 SCT150 11/11 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP195 T01060106 $
< 1456322056 643022 :tjt263_!~RAPSCA77I@220-253-202-212.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456322116 633903 :lynn__!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456322302 96734 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456322365 455931 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456323371 147746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 366%~132141 
< 1456323371 811393 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 361.041
< 1456323775 31638 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456323822 657871 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456323854 935086 :lynn__!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456324229 598635 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456324660 125043 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1456324989 55826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456325850 323980 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456326007 55046 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456326270 109246 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456327165 526118 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456327179 971064 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1456327333 818894 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456328098 552412 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456328574 882834 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456329637 676608 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456329715 622981 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456329740 701308 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This brainfuck competition is going well
< 1456329751 744708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out it lasts all week and this is just an intro
< 1456329831 597749 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the competition implementing brainfuck, or using it?
< 1456329870 357644 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the latter, but you never know
< 1456329891 488620 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456330039 305056 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456330206 304703 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter
< 1456331470 519325 :earendel2!~earendel@176.6.17.158 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456331525 88581 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456331681 943732 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :SHIKHIN
< 1456331691 47892 :SHIKHIN!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1456332518 518250 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna need a more efficient divmod algorithm
< 1456332604 106997 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :divmod (a, b) { return 7, 0 }
< 1456332631 696693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that woudn't quite work for calculating the largest prime factor of 2^32-2
< 1456332648 523747 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's correct in an infinite number of cases
< 1456332737 346987 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement a primality test instead of trial division only
< 1456332739 432882 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :2147483647 is prime
< 1456332923 214356 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could work!
< 1456333202 431900 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456333338 276616 :jaboja!~jaboja@emg232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1456334489 686932 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456334505 94362 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1456336001 373245 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, how do i move up and down in vi without arrows?
< 1456336007 182937 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :j/k  :P
< 1456336311 686278 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456336884 15510 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456337017 910258 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Use the mouse scrollwheel. :)
< 1456337133 961815 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456337283 228092 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera | j/k  :P      <---- cough cough
< 1456337299 867970 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmon it was funny
< 1456337455 982254 :tjt263_!~RAPSCA77I@220-253-202-212.dyn.iinet.net.au QUIT :Quit: part
< 1456337811 626901 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456337940 594292 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I thought it was funny
< 1456338049 418177 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3
< 1456338130 980543 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456338264 2837 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456338735 977907 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the initial investment is like to become a carilloneur/euse
< 1456338937 84081 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other interesting branches of mathematics could a Proof Assistant be based on?
< 1456338944 632222 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have string rewriting down, mostly.
< 1456338953 526859 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HoTT
< 1456338970 40019 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: HoTT? Is that for me?
< 1456338982 217471 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1456339058 62150 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: OK...
< 1456339071 451123 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Anything non-type theoretical?
< 1456339074 536083 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably something insane you could do with stack theory, too, but I think there are probably 2 people in the world who know anything about that
< 1456339122 218916 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_%28mathematics%29
< 1456339122 856962 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I assume stack theory is based on the stack?
< 1456339126 832256 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i internally chuckled
< 1456339127 299744 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep
< 1456339146 996102 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glossary_of_stack_theory&redirect=no
< 1456339165 354954 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Is stack theory a real, studied thing?
< 1456339203 729740 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nothing to do with a stack then?
< 1456339204 123265 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they actually call it descent theory
< 1456339231 310561 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0412512
< 1456339241 899082 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not the sort of stack computers are concerned with, no
< 1456339273 157227 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, maybe. It's an abstruse field. There could very well be a connection :D
< 1456339343 132694 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456339384 457755 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, note https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_(mathematics)#Set-theoretical_problems
< 1456339409 740239 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456339465 119021 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Grothendieck has some texts on the subject, but I think they're mainly in French
< 1456339512 542919 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Any other ideas? Something I might find easier to understand? xD
< 1456339519 32512 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456339569 870041 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading about Lemuridae the other day, and superdeduction sounds neat
< 1456339600 901719 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rho.loria.fr/lemuridae.html http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.104.5083
< 1456339684 672934 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand Category Theory, so I figure it's a good idea to implement it in Python to start understanding it xD
< 1456339780 412656 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Is it even possible to implement category theory in a programming language without being a god?
< 1456339824 705619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: It seems like you'd have to do a LOT of lazy evaluation
< 1456339890 292642 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "implement category theory". Like, be able to represent it, or be able to do things with it?
< 1456339922 443080 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there's this, I guess: http://docs.sympy.org/latest/modules/categories.html
< 1456339923 900206 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Have something that works well enough for me to play with it and see what's going on
< 1456339943 289850 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: If I implement it myself, I'll have a better feel for how it works, most likely
< 1456340061 837486 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what do you want to be able to do? It seem pretty straightforward to have Python objects for Objects, Morphisms, and Categories
< 1456340065 367055 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seems
< 1456340087 921932 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you just follow the math, more or less.
< 1456340099 283828 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, proving things is another matter, I suppose.
< 1456340141 628292 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and Diagrams would be good to have, I guess
< 1456340247 881797 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Yeah, that's what I'm working on. Python objects.
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< 1456342082 499223 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456342739 689558 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456342899 666241 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456343388 167124 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456343497 804002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456344640 620996 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccmvxwkxfzywjwfo JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456344662 882767 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccmvxwkxfzywjwfo PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hello, sorcerer l0de here
< 1456344682 974452 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccmvxwkxfzywjwfo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for fellow arcane practitioners to work with in the NYC area
< 1456344692 223157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong kind of esoteric mate
< 1456344710 610528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome
< 1456344711 818369 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccmvxwkxfzywjwfo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no wrong kinds, Phantom_Hoover, only different paths
< 1456344720 418934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1456344754 897533 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :l0de, well yes but we do ask that you focus your exploration of the arcane into designing or deploying esoteric programming languages
< 1456344797 857503 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccmvxwkxfzywjwfo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always considered myself as more of a chaos-affiliated magus, Phantom_Hoover 
< 1456344826 797494 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok, we have chaotic esolangs as well
< 1456344860 522906 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456346035 596853 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye
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< 1456350600 829603 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good
< 1456350600 987721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 9h 16m 42s ago: ^saved htdh
< 1456350708 197321 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list
< 1456350714 813911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date > share/conscripts; culprits share/conscripts | xargs -n 1 | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs
< 1456350737 883649 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see, that was why it was changed to awk
< 1456350755 888454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rint
< 1456350758 760078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rint? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456350791 42556 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits
< 1456350791 910290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs
< 1456350801 509321 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1456350833 973729 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is good you are not using noping there, because it would mess up the removal of duplicates
< 1456350852 677930 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering why that wasn't happening
< 1456350995 962703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -l "\bhg\b" bin/* 
< 1456350998 951739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/culprits \ bin/emmental \ bin/macro \ bin/mov \ bin/searchlog \ bin/tclkit \ bin/undo \ bin/units \ bin/url \ bin/word
< 1456351068 447380 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456351131 559116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -elocal$/;open$I,"<","bin/mov" or die;print<$I>=~s/\b(\w)(\w)/$1\x0f$2/g
< 1456351132 687216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't modify  in substitution (s///) at -e line 1, at EOF \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
< 1456351143 339434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -elocal$/;open$I,"<","bin/mov" or die;print<$I>=~s/\b(\w)(\w)/$1\x0f$2/gr
< 1456351144 109646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....`6@.....@.......(�..........@.8.	.@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....�.......�....................8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@.....�......�........ ............��......��a.....��a.....�......
< 1456351152 267590 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, binary?
< 1456351155 70633 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it do?
< 1456351173 844356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -elocal$/;open$I,"<","bin/searchlog" or die;print<$I>=~s/\b(\w)(\w)/$1\x0f$2/gr
< 1456351175 84070 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....p5@.....@.......�g.........@.8..@.(.%.......@.......@.@.....@.@.....�.......�............................@......@............................................@.......@.....L3.....L3....... ............P3.....P3k.....P3k.....8�......XW........ ...........�3.....�3k.....�3k.....�.......�.......
< 1456351183 968383 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -elocal$/;open$I,"<","bin/undo" or die;print<$I>=~s/\b(\w)(\w)/$1\x0f$2/gr
< 1456351184 680209 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ hg diff -c "$@" | patch -p1 -R
< 1456351190 832649 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456351195 151646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -elocal$/;open$I,"<","bin/url" or die;print<$I>=~s/\b(\w)(\w)/$1\x0f$2/gr
< 1456351195 820534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys, os.path, re, urllib \ if len(sys.argv) <= 1: \     print "http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/" \ else: \     f = os.path.abspath(sys.argv[1]) \     f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \     if re.match(r"/|\.hg(?:/|$)",f): \         sys.exit("File is outside web-viewab
< 1456351201 640547 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice Blinks
< 1456351204 408681 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here on my irssi
< 1456351205 214326 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -elocal$/;open$I,"<","bin/word" or die;print<$I>=~s/\b(\w)(\w)/$1\x0f$2/gr
< 1456351206 373743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $VAR1 = { \           'qz' => { \                     'e' => 1, \                     'k' => 1, \                     'a' => 1, \                     ' ' => 9, \                     'i' => 1, \                     'o' => 2 \                   }, \           'sp' => { \                     'w' => 9, \                     '
< 1456351226 806477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rgrep -l --binary-files=without-match "\bhg\b" bin
< 1456351227 613176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/url \ bin/undo \ bin/culprits \ bin/word
< 1456351229 37798 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably „Ctrl-F“)
< 1456351230 93148 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -elocal$/;open$I,"<","bin/macro" or die;print<$I>=~s/\b(\w)(\w)/$1\x0f$2/gr
< 1456351231 684773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF...........>.....`@.....@.......��,.........@.8..@.'.$..................@.......@.....��(.....��(....... ............��(.....���.....���......�......��........ ...........�.......�.@.....�.@.....h.......h....................��(.....���.....���.....0.......`..............Q�td..................................................R
< 1456351233 953144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now leave the ELF files alone
< 1456351260 985860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry
< 1456351264 719416 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llvcwqmyxekfewsk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave the elves alone? :P
< 1456351266 766871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1456351272 294287 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llvcwqmyxekfewsk PRIVMSG #esoteric :They need supervision.
< 1456351302 693907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was to b_jonas.
< 1456351305 181884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway.
< 1456351305 964175 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` objdump -f bin/mov
< 1456351306 802882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ bin/mov:     file format elf64-x86-64 \ architecture: i386:x86-64, flags 0x00000112: \ EXEC_P, HAS_SYMS, D_PAGED \ start address 0x0000000000403660
< 1456351315 774262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` objdump -fh bin/mov
< 1456351316 471455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ bin/mov:     file format elf64-x86-64 \ architecture: i386:x86-64, flags 0x00000112: \ EXEC_P, HAS_SYMS, D_PAGED \ start address 0x0000000000403660 \  \ Sections: \ Idx Name          Size      VMA               LMA               File off  Algn \   0 .interp       0000001c  0000000000400238  0000000000400238  00000238  2**0 \                  
< 1456351332 604707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` objdump -fh bin/mov | tail -n+8
< 1456351333 363287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idx Name          Size      VMA               LMA               File off  Algn \   0 .interp       0000001c  0000000000400238  0000000000400238  00000238  2**0 \                   CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA \   1 .note.ABI-tag 00000020  0000000000400254  0000000000400254  00000254  2**2 \                   CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY
< 1456351349 159183 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ldd bin/mov 
< 1456351349 925552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x0000007fbffff000) \ 	libselinux.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1 (0x0000000040002000) \ 	librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x0000000040222000) \ 	libacl.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libacl.so.1 (0x000000004042b000) \ 	libattr.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libattr.so.1 (0x0000000040634000) \ 	li
< 1456351385 195532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ldd bin/mov | tail -n+5
< 1456351385 908422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​	libattr.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libattr.so.1 (0x0000000040634000) \ 	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x0000000040839000) \ 	libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x0000000040bc4000) \ 	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000000552aaaa000) \ 	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x0000000040dc8000)
< 1456351394 679479 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456351398 954677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ldd bin/mov | tail -n+10
< 1456351399 668539 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456351436 532021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` objdump -t bin/mov 
< 1456351437 217344 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ bin/mov:     file format elf64-x86-64 \  \ SYMBOL TABLE: \ no symbols
< 1456351459 105759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is this mov thing?
< 1456351491 487805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mov
< 1456351492 170323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov: missing file operand \ Try `mov --help' for more information.
< 1456351495 43378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mov --help
< 1456351495 654507 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: mov [OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST \   or:  mov [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY \   or:  mov [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY SOURCE... \ Rename SOURCE to DEST, or move SOURCE(s) to DIRECTORY. \  \ Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too. \       --backup[=CONTROL]       make a backup of each existing destination file \
< 1456351520 343198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l bin/mov
< 1456351521 299121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 7 Dec  9 04:12 bin/mov -> /bin/mv
< 1456351528 353896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1456351535 847594 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456351559 103656 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that halep
< 1456351560 213699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed bin/mov | grep summary:
< 1456351565 783436 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange one, but helps
< 1456351573 685284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      revert \ summary:      rm bin -r \ summary:      revert \ summary:      revert 1 \ summary:      ln -s /bin/mv bin/mov
< 1456351666 628356 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456351734 560131 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
< 1456351805 285816 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1456351810 309736 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456352485 591365 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456352506 859484 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
< 1456352517 970448 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456352801 873526 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1456352864 912790 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/noping
< 1456352866 91826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" | sed 's/\(..\)/\1​/g'
< 1456352879 658104 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1456352881 718042 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1456352888 828537 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456352891 904019 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on second thought `noping wouldn't be a problem if it's done before merging the lines
< 1456352901 54492 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtfwtf
< 1456352920 731609 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what is the problem cwh
< 1456352991 56662 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: however, we really should find a noping method that works for everyone.  i saw boily complaining in the logs.
< 1456353005 564247 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found out that in C++, std::allocator::difference_type is a typedef for ptrdiff_t. That totally doesn't make sense. That could be larger than the object sizes.
< 1456353043 915348 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok chyt
< 1456353059 858273 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cnhyt
< 1456353065 49266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly they also couldn't just make it the signed type of the same size as size_t, because that type could be _smaller_ than the object sizes on some platforms,
< 1456353068 492733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still.
< 1456353074 395331 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird.
< 1456353092 796323 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm cn seems wrong too, and there is no good way
< 1456353106 655023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cn
< 1456353107 793532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456353138 643542 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because can always merges with a following not _somehow_, unless it has a different meaning
< 1456353277 393551 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I usually fold -1 <-- hm i should remember that command
< 1456353284 231803 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with or without -1)
< 1456353292 683962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is related to one of the things I hate in English: in some dialects, "can" and "can't" sounds practically the same, especially in informal speech and depending on the next word
< 1456353312 664508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no reliable way you can distinguish them from just hearing.
< 1456353327 110906 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misremembered with the -1, but fold -1 is useful to sort the characters in a line
< 1456353329 604757 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can' see what you mean
< 1456353356 340914 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used  :.!fold -1|sort|uniq -c  in vim to get a table of letter frequency for a line
< 1456353379 127043 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and that's not even the worst case, because with "can't" that would have an "nts" consonant cluster, which most speakers can pronounce fine. 
< 1456353406 727887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but if you try "can't do" or "can't tell" then the chances are slimmer
< 1456353408 11565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: noping shouldn't have too much overhead, because sometimes it's used on long lines.
< 1456353420 836002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of cousre, this is just one of the many ambiguities in spoken English.
< 1456353431 511005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/noping
< 1456353432 199663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" | sed 's/\(..\)/\1​/g'
< 1456353438 836924 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the overhead is a smaller problem than the fact that we have no character that works for everyone
< 1456353446 570011 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering what you were discussing nop:ing for a while, and why nops would have overhead
< 1456353457 595523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some others include "make her heart sore" against "make her heart soar", and, in some dialects, "formally" against "formerly"
< 1456353472 932876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat -v bin/noping
< 1456353473 664615 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" | sed 's/\(..\)/\1M-bM-^@M-^K/g'
< 1456353497 61310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't it just put a \x0f instead of some non-ascii stuff? is that not enough to noping?
< 1456353537 920037 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: heck, if we could find a method that works for each person and which doesn't break anyone's client, we could even have an exception table.
< 1456353548 880251 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some clients ignore formatting for highlight purposes
< 1456353556 52767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456353583 806468 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hexdump bin/noping
< 1456353584 956734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 7270 6e69 5f74 7261 7367 6f5f 5f72 6e69 \ 0000010 7570 2074 2422 2240 7c20 7320 6465 2720 \ 0000020 2f73 285c 2e2e 295c 5c2f e231 8b80 672f \ 0000030 0a27                                    \ 0000032
< 1456353593 903178 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -c 8 bin/noping | unidecode
< 1456353594 843389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456353598 357705 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -c 8 bin/noping | xargs unidecode
< 1456353599 443455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option
< 1456353601 300994 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok what's the option to make that useful again
< 1456353603 905044 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr
< 1456353606 421607 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexdump -C
< 1456353633 164936 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quotes exception could be a problem in other cases
< 1456353641 270336 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456353650 612711 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not allowed in nicks though
< 1456353666 374292 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode "$(tail -c 8 bin/noping)"  # I guess this works
< 1456353668 141084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0031 DIGIT ONE] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+002F SOLIDUS] [U+0067 LATIN SMALL LETTER G] [U+0027 APOSTROPHE]
< 1456353679 898527 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it uses zero width space
< 1456353688 851309 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quotes thing was just xargs complaining
< 1456353695 467088 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er oh
< 1456353700 714109 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was pretty explicit about that
< 1456353702 125218 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works for many but breaks one of shachaf's clients
< 1456353754 741063 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the noping pattern a bit replacement-happy?
< 1456353776 88522 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A drawback with inserting so many ZWSPs is that it means less command output gets through
< 1456353786 427303 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the bytes count toward the line limit
< 1456353800 136985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hierjan
< 1456353802 702299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly
< 1456353815 210397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is being hired
< 1456353827 407640 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hire Jan
< 1456353967 882819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the overhead of noping, you could at least change it so that it adds a character only once per nick,
< 1456354005 78656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is the noping expert
< 1456354006 714407 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the problem is where to place it
< 1456354020 589738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or really any 90 programmer.
< 1456354021 951552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for even less overhead, we could go back to that older method that adds diacritics to a character in a nick, since that typically adds only one byte, eg. øerjan, b_jónas, etc
< 1456354034 876640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noping
< 1456354035 814612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noping? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456354037 223553 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot place it just before the end because of, say, oerjan_
< 1456354058 186575 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking just after the first character
< 1456354060 114483 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the beginning because both i and shachaf match on a tail part
< 1456354060 343104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure, so place in between two letters that are closest to the middle, or something
< 1456354063 47803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn noping is programming in 90
< 1456354065 961564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'noping': noping is programming in 90
< 1456354067 236329 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right
< 1456354096 562936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456354109 804334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is "øerjan" not enough because you match on the end?
< 1456354120 302322 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: for shachaf shac-haf would work but not sha-chaf
< 1456354145 213052 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's not enough because i match only on rjan precisely because people sometimes use the ø
< 1456354147 47376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh... why is the latter not enough?
< 1456354167 259179 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because shachaf matches on chaf
< 1456354174 32925 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc
< 1456354174 961240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456354200 535943 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456354210 771079 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: anyway.  that particular problem can be solved with an exception list.
< 1456354231 131561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, yes, a list of heuristic telling what to modify how
< 1456354250 855785 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you'll have to be careful to not make it lie (masquarading a nick to something else, to avoid being identified as a culprit)
< 1456354252 295370 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1456354263 601151 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does ais523 match on ais?
< 1456354280 643001 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose HackEgo would have any way to know what nicks are online?
< 1456354300 171240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what would we have to do with your nick? would oeŕjan work? or would we need Esperanto stuff like oerĵan?
< 1456354321 809901 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ZWSP between r and jan I guess
< 1456354331 420259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think so, and besides, he's rarely online so you can't easily misping him
< 1456354343 501220 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's two bytes more than a diacritic
< 1456354348 592113 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :True
< 1456354369 218606 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. is it really longer than ĵ?
< 1456354376 546698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, that's still only two bytes
< 1456354382 901505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in utf8 that is
< 1456354386 290619 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hexdump -C <<<"ĵ"
< 1456354388 199047 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000  c4 b5 0a                                          |...| \ 00000003
< 1456354391 691095 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456354400 988301 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode "ĵ"
< 1456354401 776657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0135 LATIN SMALL LETTER J WITH CIRCUMFLEX]
< 1456354410 668897 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, didn't realise it's that low
< 1456354417 722592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: anything in \x{80}-\x{7ff} is two bytes
< 1456354439 438513 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language allows that kind of \x escape?
< 1456354443 701540 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: online nicks won't work for me, since my main noping interest is being able to usefully search for my nick in the logs.
< 1456354443 908869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: chaf\b
< 1456354444 531151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: perl
< 1456354447 21631 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1456354458 554628 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. bummer.
< 1456354561 601761 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought ais523 was online pretty frequently. just not always.

< 1456354602 283902 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re. \x, in my mind \u escapes are for codepoints and \x escapes for raw bytes
< 1456354640 75601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me
< 1456354650 806490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would oerjаn ping you?
< 1456354664 58288 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how about oerјan?
< 1456354674 577490 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: in fact it doesn't ping me in irssi even if you don't do anything.
< 1456354677 348410 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are still just one byte extra
< 1456354689 759427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure, but when you search the logs or something
< 1456354691 435329 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow irssi only catches it at the beginning of the line
< 1456354715 413039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, those kinds of things depend on client-side settings of what you're listening to
< 1456354723 447259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the whole ping stuff does, obviously)
< 1456354726 984131 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh.  neither lights up in search.
< 1456354729 497396 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456354797 454328 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456354833 780363 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what if noping printed a pair of a random seed and a HMAC-SHA256 sum computed from the seed and the nick? Then it would ping only people who check their nicks to every seeded hash on the channel? 
< 1456354885 367787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, that also means whoever reads the noping reply can only check for the occurance of specific nicks they guess (case-sensitive, unless the nick is normalized before the checksum), not decode the checksums.
< 1456354891 687142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it might be impractical.
< 1456354898 975108 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456354900 122103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 242200Z 05024KT 4SM -FZRA BKN008 OVC015 M01/M02 A2975 RMK SF6SF2 PRESFR SLP077
< 1456354911 938464 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this might defeat the point of noping
< 1456354912 96478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, it's also too long compared to the other solutions.
< 1456354944 705686 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: noping is supposed to be readable hth
< 1456354966 4301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, let's go back to the character replacement idea then
< 1456354977 450555 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i would of course prefer a method that's invisible.
< 1456354978 78478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hash
< 1456354979 104924 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456354995 566099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom | grep hash  | grep ais523
< 1456354998 539102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      le/rn hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2
< 1456355018 58830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that's a SHA-1 hash of "hash"
< 1456355024 382342 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there any zero width character that is not irc formatting code that doesn't mess up your client?
< 1456355034 738838 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems so
< 1456355042 600313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think zero-width space might be OK.
< 1456355044 430983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it might not.
< 1456355045 922326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1456355054 432886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should just make a special case for me.
< 1456355072 903351 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456355073 454807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 242200Z 05024KT 4SM -FZRA BKN008 OVC015 M01/M02 A2975 RMK SF6SF2 PRESFR SLP077
< 1456355079 730436 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't the issue that the ZWSP rendered weirdly?
< 1456355080 257657 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um a special case for you won't work
< 1456355084 94546 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh. I want the current metar.
< 1456355093 955916 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your client breaks when _other_ people are nopinged.
< 1456355108 24051 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456355114 700206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true
< 1456355163 314048 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does a \x0e still mess up your terminal? and does \x9b mess up your terminal if it appears in an utf-8 char
< 1456355186 893857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, I don't know.
< 1456355201 182033 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
< 1456355206 702946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I sort of think that if they do, it's sort of such a heavy client issue that we don't really have to work around
< 1456355227 15650 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking ZWJ might be more semantically appropriate than ZWSP
< 1456355250 2208 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ZERO WORD JOIN
< 1456355253 834805 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456355254 402365 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also, same question about \x05
< 1456355260 910490 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode zero width joiner
< 1456355261 950972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‍
< 1456355263 481145 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456355263 930515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 242300Z 05019G26KT 4SM -FZRA BKN007 OVC015 M01/M01 A2970 RMK SF6SF2 PRESFR SLP060
< 1456355271 497429 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah! much better.
< 1456355277 901531 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB
< 1456355278 188479 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 242250Z AUTO 23005KT 9999 NCD M02/M05 Q0999
< 1456355278 991980 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. it's getting worse.
< 1456355287 110141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK
< 1456355287 639772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 242253Z 28010KT 10SM FEW200 21/09 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP193 T02060089
< 1456355308 430850 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n boi; unicode zero width joiner; echo ly
< 1456355309 933376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boiU+200C ZERO WIDTH NON-JOINER \ UTF-8: e2 80 8c  UTF-16BE: 200c  Decimal: ‌ \ ‌ \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \  \ U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER \ UTF-8: e2 80 8d  UTF-16BE: 200d  Decimal: ‍ \ ‍ \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \  \ ly
< 1456355311 207177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles a few clouds at the shachafweather

< 1456355317 857386 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff
< 1456355318 571746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@metar CYUL) (@metar KOAK) (@mtar ENVA)
< 1456355319 176267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "mtar"
< 1456355321 174421 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if shachaf really matches on "chaf", then we probably need an exception for him anyway, to make sure we modify one of those chars
< 1456355323 218449 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BWAH AH AH :D
< 1456355324 593523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@metar CYUL) (@metar KOAK) (@metar ENVA)
< 1456355325 335398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 242300Z 05019G26KT 4SM -FZRA BKN007 OVC015 M01/M01 A2970 RMK SF6SF2 PRESFR SLP060 KOAK 242253Z 28010KT 10SM FEW200 21/09 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP193 T02060089 ENVA 242250Z 27015KT 9999 SCT006 BKN015 02/01 Q0999 RMK WIND 670FT 28016KT
< 1456355329 442402 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n boi; unicode 'zero width joiner'; echo ly
< 1456355330 491075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boi‍ \ ly
< 1456355343 912934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :metar soup is my favorite
< 1456355346 194652 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, it was just perfect.
< 1456355355 831402 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i think we should _entirely_ separate the question of finding a character that works, from where to place it.
< 1456355365 184793 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1456355373 749886 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure
< 1456355382 357235 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n boi; unicode 'zero width joiner' | tr -d \\n; echo ly  # third time's the charm
< 1456355383 449518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boi‍ly
< 1456355388 464054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and finding a character that works is usually easy, unless the name is like very short or contains only strange chars
< 1456355398 344056 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did that ping you
< 1456355409 743682 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did that mess up your client
< 1456355432 392267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's hard to tell.
< 1456355435 546662 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what FireFly did)
< 1456355443 278751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't mess it up immediately and not deterministically.
< 1456355448 557018 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fff
< 1456355456 862686 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nope.
< 1456355465 613719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's fine.
< 1456355470 918523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I might be wrong.
< 1456355480 396982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn weather/?? (?metar CYUL) \ (?metar ENVA) \ (?metar ESSB) \ (?metar KOAK)
< 1456355485 173927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «weather»
< 1456355486 426062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456355488 60481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?? (?metar CYUL) \ (?metar ENVA) \ (?metar ESSB) \ (?metar KOAK)
< 1456355491 341809 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe we should try that character, then.
< 1456355502 345213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn weather/lambdabot: ?? (?metar CYUL) \ (?metar ENVA) \ (?metar ESSB) \ (?metar KOAK)
< 1456355505 24583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «weather»
< 1456355510 973478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, now my terminal is messed up.
< 1456355515 463583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know what caused it.
< 1456355519 194498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456355542 871513 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?? (?metar CYUL) \ (?metar ENVA) \ (?metar ESSB) \ (?metar KOAK)
< 1456355543 902063 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 242300Z 05019G26KT 4SM -FZRA BKN007 OVC015 M01/M01 A2970 RMK SF6SF2 PRESFR SLP060 \ ENVA 242250Z 27015KT 9999 SCT006 BKN015 02/01 Q0999 RMK WIND 670FT 28016KT \ ESSB 242250Z AUTO 23005KT 9999 NCD M02/M05 Q0999 \ KOAK 242253Z 28010KT 10SM FEW200 21/09 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP193 T02060089
< 1456355564 471158 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. you can chain Hackie and Lambdie together?
< 1456355763 175239 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we can use, like, replace one of [aceinorstuy] with [асеіņоŗșțúý] and their uppercased versions, and most nicks contain one of those
< 1456355771 334682 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go outside again and ingest lots of szechuan peppers.
< 1456355785 285990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CONVERTER CHICKEN
< 1456355819 375482 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : But I don't know what caused it. <-- i suspect it's the ZWSP HackEgo put before ?? in `? weather
< 1456355830 626169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe.
< 1456355851 514752 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: um, i'm thinking we can use the ZWJ that we just tested
< 1456355877 533099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe, but that's two bytes more per nick, and we often want to noping an entire long list of nicks
< 1456355908 34841 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh*
< 1456355944 510980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not really sure how you'd noping "^v". maybe like "↑v" (which is two extra bytes, not only one).
< 1456355982 42464 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ok, what about only using those chars you said that look entirely identical, and use ZWJ if there aren't enough appropriate ones?
< 1456355997 254368 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't say any look entirely identical
< 1456356012 728359 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aceio looked identical to me
< 1456356015 223642 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, if you don't find a suitable replacement, then put in a zwsp
< 1456356026 77754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that rather depends on the font.
< 1456356029 374517 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ZWJ
< 1456356041 190088 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that then
< 1456356097 740199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, only "c" looks entirely identical here, although some others look very similar. Always because they're not in my font so they're taken from a replacement font.
< 1456356145 742712 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's more possible replacements of course, that set was just an idea.
< 1456356152 379277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/set/map/
< 1456356290 113826 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if a nick is 5 chars or shorter, it gets only one replacement, i think, preferably not at the very end (but can't do much about length <=3 there)
< 1456356322 75577 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's 6 chars or longer, it gets two.
< 1456356326 299585 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: preferably also not at the very beginning
< 1456356335 684781 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er *ends
< 1456356358 600832 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that somehow got lost in the thinking
< 1456356371 570497 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and preferably not two from the end if the last but one char matches [-\\|_]
< 1456356534 271004 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe those chars should just be stripped finally before starting to look for where to replace
< 1456356569 927466 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :any number, as long as there are at least 2 chars left
< 1456356583 35257 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe, but make sure you get something sensible (possibly the original nick) even for very short nicks or nicks made of all underscores or stuff like that where you can't really replace anything
< 1456356626 65755 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't mean stripping as in removing from the output
< 1456356631 129438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1456356643 358261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just, like, don't raise an error or something
< 1456356711 659310 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, since the aceio are all alphabetical, we can assume they're part of the essence of the nick if they appear
< 1456356733 991615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and test some (actual) all consonant nicks like mt..ve, st..th, n..ht, s..ki, ^..v, t..tr, ly..nn, 
< 1456356764 650483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just aceio is definitely not enough though, there's lots of nicks with none of those
< 1456356897 934655 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mt..ve might not count, i think we can use the e
< 1456356906 293876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456356908 193492 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1456357002 128694 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how would you quote in..t-..e ?
< 1456357028 53888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea what pings him and what doesn't
< 1456357046 406651 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good point, he _might_ ping on just in..t-
< 1456357081 100944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wouldn't be a problem, since you can replace the n or the t or the i
< 1456357088 945043 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 5 chars is too little for just one replacement if it's at the end
< 1456357096 63009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but I wonder if he pings on t..-..e alone or something
< 1456357144 74104 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the basic rule should be, there needs to be a replacement in the first 4 chars and one in the last 4, which may overlap
< 1456357241 817237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, dunno. that could make something replaced at the very beginning and very end like oerjan| => öerjan¦
< 1456357250 437831 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except hm
< 1456357261 667563 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1456357282 654575 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456357355 611635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could still get in trouble with nicks that have no or almost no letters of course, but in that case you can fall back to the invisible character
< 1456357366 453822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there aren't many such nicks
< 1456357409 567670 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456357411 749918 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea I'm thinking about: A strongly-typed programming language that looks normal
< 1456357420 558062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people using strange nicks like [-__-] and stuff
< 1456357433 705508 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] what part of your nick pings you
< 1456357436 770152 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it has all these wacky features that make no sense, but that you can't identify from just reading the syntax
< 1456357450 898380 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hp, hppavilion[1], and hppavellon[1]
< 1456357464 66689 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH
< 1456357468 828713 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why?
< 1456357471 92999 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: this is doomed :P
< 1456357473 46993 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can disable "hp"
< 1456357483 839243 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456357486 70228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "hp" only as a separate word, or anywhere?
< 1456357487 815401 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was added recently because of someone who thought typing my full nick was too much work
< 1456357492 905465 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Not sure
< 1456357497 547004 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriously, I can just remove it
< 1456357499 585072 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why?
< 1456357501 994664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpc: does this ping you?
< 1456357504 858677 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope
< 1456357509 565798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: see!
< 1456357513 395529 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we're trying to invent a ping prevention scheme that doesn't escape too many chars
< 1456357526 745854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: only as a separate word,
< 1456357532 505930 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so almost any replacement works
< 1456357547 818159 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Have you tried putting it in []?
< 1456357548 776940 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456357569 119954 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456357569 850125 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'[oerjan] said "Hi"! at 12+2i o\' clock'
< 1456357576 850258 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[oerjan]
< 1456357577 8916 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not going to work for me
< 1456357581 572474 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh :/
< 1456357592 67710 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i search for "rjan"
< 1456357681 472367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, just "rjan" so that örjan or ørjan or œrjan pings you
< 1456357689 530223 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (echo h; echo p; unicode 'zero width joiner'; echo a) | tr -d '\n'
< 1456357694 840852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp‍a
< 1456357703 92402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero width joiner
< 1456357709 17967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpa
< 1456357716 151106 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh? you'd just replace the i or the a in his name
< 1456357721 980028 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: did that HackEgo response ping you?
< 1456357725 638467 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or replace both the o and the a
< 1456357729 678604 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: It appears it did
< 1456357737 912328 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, oerjan 
< 1456357739 40220 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456357739 670787 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456357741 292654 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is an idiot

< 1456357746 173144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.
< 1456357751 224136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I ping you?
< 1456357755 781057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize what was going on.
< 1456357772 339430 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, strangely
< 1456357793 655692 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i was just testing if the ZWJ actually could mess it up if placed after the p
< 1456357807 419575 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What is the purpose of this ping prevention scheme?
< 1456357817 601464 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, makes sense
< 1456357853 154649 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a feature of my normal-looking crazy language (which I may integrate with another project so as to cut down on my projects) is complex fuzzy bag typing.
< 1456357859 587405 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because nothing could be stranger than that.
< 1456357870 734391 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll have to figure out something to decide about matches of /\bjonas\b/ which one refers to me and which doesn't. Sadly, jonas is too common a word.
< 1456357873 624128 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: for HackEgo commands like `culprits
< 1456357901 663033 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah
< 1456357907 222957 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :One solution that might actually make sense is to change my screen name, since then I can choose a nick that rarely accidentally matches,
< 1456357941 40037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :althoguh that would of course have the dual problems that people would still use b_jonas as my name, and that people wouldn't recognize me when I speak or when others speak of me using my new nick.
< 1456357965 112454 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: You could just add some characters
< 1456357967 576692 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b__jonas?
< 1456357977 812476 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um no, "b_jonas" itself is unique enough
< 1456357985 18883 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's just "jonas" alone that's the problem
< 1456357990 658197 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ah
< 1456357993 874718 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense
< 1456358011 165370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jonas i hvalfiskens buk
< 1456358022 366701 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Configure your IRC client to only acknowledge b_jonas when the characters on either side are not acceptable nick characters?
< 1456358023 562215 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh?
< 1456358029 539738 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456358041 118658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no no, "b_jonas" anywhere, even with surrounding characters, almost certainly refers to me
< 1456358062 859038 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: just some silly archaic biblical dano-norwegian
< 1456358064 791815 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but that would work
< 1456358068 54213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: like I said, it's "jonas" or "Jonas" alone that are problems, without the "b_" or other similar prefixes
< 1456358088 668628 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1456358090 193053 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what?
< 1456358098 527126 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that ping you then?
< 1456358119 660314 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, the bible _is_ the reason why Jonas became a popular name, which is indirectly why it's a common word on irc, and also indirectly why I use this nick
< 1456358141 510041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it might or might not, depending on my settings, but if it doesn't ping me, that's the opposite problem, then I might lose lines that actually refer to me
< 1456358147 996509 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to b_ or not to b_, that is the question
< 1456358161 915093 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: And do people ever just refer to you as "jonas"?
< 1456358165 991327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I mangle the "b_" in various ways, so "Be" actually occurs
< 1456358177 342793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sure, I even have "jonas" as the nick on some websites
< 1456358182 749948 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1456358185 678587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's rare on irc, where everyone sees my nick
< 1456358188 958115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it can happen
< 1456358196 263248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a reasonable abbreviation
< 1456358269 495865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably just use some dirty heuristics, like ignoring just "jonas" on certain high-traffic channels where it occurs the most frequently (but still looking for the more specific variants like "b_jonas" of course).
< 1456358291 900032 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I used "jonas" before I came up with "b_jonas" to make it unique
< 1456358480 214904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should've used FireFly
< 1456358557 654330 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been stalking me recently
< 1456358684 505587 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456358726 574016 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456358929 819294 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :complex fuzzy bag typing.
< 1456358936 764712 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A type check returns a complex number.
< 1456358953 449827 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456358989 955695 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456359595 332096 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456359745 632856 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want to play nomic
< 1456359811 456301 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456359816 677379 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1456359919 50894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agora still exists afaik
< 1456359931 551896 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh yeah, Agora
< 1456359958 941208 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1456359963 604461 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I unsubbed from the mailing lists last year
< 1456359965 389282 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does.  there's even been some activity lately.
< 1456359967 798715 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1456359975 888495 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably get back in at some point
< 1456360290 720928 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1456360385 57740 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456360959 514699 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456360984 75407 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456361143 115162 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
< 1456361964 392675 :mad!~madbrain@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456362116 111531 :mad!~madbrain@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456362952 280573 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456363481 316392 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just went to agora and looked at a random judicial case
< 1456363495 133272 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Players: A lambda-nomic has "players", individual beings or groups of beings who participate in the game
< 1456363495 371671 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rules: A lambda-nomic has "rules", statements about what players of the game can and cannot do.
< 1456363495 530280 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to play: A game is played by players following the rules to arbitrary pedanticness.
< 1456363495 530360 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule Proposal: At any time, a player can propose a new rule, an addendum to a rule, an edit to a rule, or the deletion of a rule. Players then vote on the rule by saying "yea" or "nay", and if there are more "yea"s than "nay"s the rule, addendum, edit, or deletion is enacted. All future moves are based on this rule.
< 1456363497 528328 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops
< 1456363500 843628 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a mistake
< 1456363510 592242 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exhibit by ais523
< 1456363512 584983 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey there.
< 1456363517 597883 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the first thing I saw
< 1456364090 35064 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456364276 151299 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456364461 46311 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456364640 619704 :adu!~ajr@73.133.129.229 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456365622 612761 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456365782 277818 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456365798 890053 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456365800 972644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 250100Z 03022G27KT 4SM -FZRA BKN006 OVC010 M00/M01 A2963 RMK SF6SF2 PRESFR SLP036
< 1456365816 881312 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freezing Cow Weather.
< 1456365942 408038 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456366130 342209 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456366446 847512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1456366457 82282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine is now online
< 1456366503 335456 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia!
< 1456366507 743210 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine? online?
< 1456366516 71939 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aubergine.tryitonline.net/
< 1456366529 859388 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot.
< 1456366530 109290 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " tackled" in what sense? not to be a web page
< 1456366535 831359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple is too, but ubergenes needs securing
< 1456366545 976473 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is...
< 1456366549 86319 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow.
< 1456366564 798928 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sheds a tear

< 1456366665 921756 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dennis is p cool
< 1456366690 243228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you up to?
< 1456366735 997080 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna play games friday?
< 1456366780 852061 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back home after a spicy Chinese supper.
< 1456366808 225205 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure! I just have to be home Friday.
< 1456366819 866977 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Do you own http://tryitonline.net/ ? Or is that a major website I haven't noticed yet?
< 1456366836 784457 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1].
< 1456366838 182808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: dennis owns it
< 1456366846 300459 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who?
< 1456366857 945831 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a person I should know about?
< 1456366860 397984 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just be on steam and ill ping you
< 1456366880 349069 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sure! everyone should know dennis!
< 1456366899 282860 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a dennis?
< 1456366899 878481 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OK, help me know dennis/
< 1456366901 211461 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.
< 1456366910 949560 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whot is this dennis you speak of?
< 1456366922 758299 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's the most golfiest of golfers on ppcg
< 1456366931 613035 :mad!~madbrain@69.165.212.148 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456366947 639470 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah!
< 1456367021 319280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: did you `list yet hth
< 1456367032 699225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456367034 159357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?? (?metar CYUL) \ (?metar ENVA) \ (?metar ESSB) \ (?metar KOAK)
< 1456367037 623276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 250200Z 03021G31KT 5SM -FZRA BKN006 OVC012 M00/M01 A2957 RMK SF6SF2 PRESFR SLP016 \ ENVA 250120Z 27015KT 9999 SCT009 BKN015 02/00 Q0999 RMK WIND 670FT 28015KT \ ESSB 250150Z AUTO 23006KT 9999 NCD M03/M05 Q0998 \ KOAK 250153Z 31007KT 10SM FEW200 17/08 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP194 T01670083
< 1456367041 748604 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Nope, not even sure what that is
< 1456367043 101977 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456367051 908651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname
< 1456367052 573250 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not KATL?
< 1456367061 149089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: feel free to add it hth
< 1456367084 190213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: It's a list of nicks.
< 1456367091 825965 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda would run out of space tho
< 1456367096 860064 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK.
< 1456367105 708424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now you're on the list.
< 1456367110 21784 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456367115 635485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname
< 1456367123 250480 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1456367124 820079 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
< 1456367138 442696 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pat pat pat hppavilion[1]

< 1456367141 717335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? list
< 1456367142 783818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list is a fun program that HackEgo has! Run it with `list and join the fun!
< 1456367151 359008 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: don't worry, it only hurts once.
< 1456367175 244265 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there any way to make lambdie answer with multiple messages?
< 1456367181 813891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure.
< 1456367187 250908 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way we'd cover all the most important metars.
< 1456367199 486620 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456367224 525172 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: So I take it that tryitonline executes on the server?
< 1456367289 713351 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456367296 395179 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.
< 1456367357 969883 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying yet again to make a pan-unicode programming language
< 1456367379 690732 :mad!~madbrain@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neo-apl? :D
< 1456367415 201589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: as long as it features ¨ on egregious glyphs, and that multiocular O.
< 1456367428 92110 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: o hai. are you mad, or madbr?
< 1456367443 362896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad
< 1456367444 158842 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Nah, it's a stacky lang for now
< 1456367444 317579 :mad!~madbrain@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad=madbr=madbrain
< 1456367444 543890 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate.
< 1456367460 499560 :mad!~madbrain@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an alt nick ;)
< 1456367520 829598 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense.
< 1456367587 908697 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn madbr/He alternates between making sense, and being logical. He doesn't monetize the brotherhood scheme.
< 1456367590 678168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «madbr»
< 1456367695 333744 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night boily
< 1456367729 806332 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonne nuitopia!
< 1456367736 190109 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sounds pointless :p
< 1456367767 366951 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Welcome to #esoteric. You new here?
< 1456367793 615093 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.165.139 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456367818 129978 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quintopia
< 1456367819 147489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia is our resident tl;dr generator. He is flooded by thundercats and thunderdogs.
< 1456367829 117750 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1]
< 1456367830 240369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe.
< 1456367869 493201 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you? most folks here are a lot lazier than that
< 1456367895 828559 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Fair point xD
< 1456367950 823697 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to hit the sack and understand the inherent properties of my pillow.
< 1456367967 62804 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilionne nuit[1].
< 1456367988 577810 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: eeeeh... bonne nuit toéssi. m'a toujours bin trouver de quoi avec ton nick demain qui fitte avec bonne nuit.
< 1456368010 68997 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: KERNEL CHICKEN
< 1456368017 670240 :mad!~madbrain@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oké ;)
< 1456368163 932794 :mad!~madbrain@69.165.212.148 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456368412 87126 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456368461 183259 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :J"bo!vig!ybnswt <-- encrypted
< 1456368556 51777 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was pinge
< 1456368559 467930 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was pinged*
< 1456368565 661936 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : although I'm not really sure how you'd noping "^v". maybe like "↑v" (which is two extra bytes, not only one).
< 1456368568 587729 :adu!~ajr@73.133.129.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456368571 774381 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1456369083 942424 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456369483 724901 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456369532 26806 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a strange cpu design which seems pretty balanced on paper
< 1456369583 709786 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions come in 4-instruction groups (32bits each, so each group is 128bits, always aligned)
< 1456369598 431957 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 go to the "front end", 2 go to the "back end"
< 1456369635 37136 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :front end is basically a classic MIPS
< 1456369661 24505 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except one of the registers is a "queue input" ie every time an instruction writes there, the value is queued to the back-end
< 1456369709 482134 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456369734 618470 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also one of the variants of 'store' doesn't specify the data to store and simply protects the memory address from loading/storing until the back-end queues an output value
< 1456369789 352467 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the back end is also similar to a MIPS but one of the registers is a 'queue input', which pops one value coming in from the front end
< 1456369830 778109 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the result of an alu operation can be queued to the memory output queue
< 1456369859 43257 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the back end only has ALU operations, no load/store
< 1456369872 292086 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is an address protected?
< 1456369889 30581 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the address is added to the write queue
< 1456369909 852697 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time a value is loaded/stored, it's compared to all the addresses in the write queue
< 1456369946 421984 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if any matches, it stalls until the matching write in the write queue is executed
< 1456370021 370186 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most CPUs these days do this actually
< 1456370028 80159 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that they don't expose it
< 1456370422 416675 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456370529 967422 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456370545 957113 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456371404 291412 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456371480 906145 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow
< 1456372040 485303 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg why did i put landing legs on my communication satellite?
< 1456372057 321300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're cool
< 1456372087 776367 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you want to land on a death star.
< 1456372548 355798 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it can stand upright as ppl work on it?
< 1456372568 929324 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess you'd remove the legs before sending it to space
< 1456372578 990371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456372670 452034 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reason why I chose the death star is that the satellite isn't going to change its speed much, so most of the approach navigation will have to be done by the object it's going to land on)
< 1456372725 289495 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456372953 999037 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456373883 290235 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone feel like gaming
< 1456373947 782229 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]!
< 1456373957 304468 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu!
< 1456373969 159481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... i don't know you
< 1456373972 429509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adu
< 1456373977 681809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456373980 316376 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu!
< 1456373987 913007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither does hackego :/
< 1456373988 394406 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quintopia
< 1456373993 266191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia is our resident tl;dr generator. He is flooded by thundercats and thunderdogs.
< 1456373999 246605 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn adu/Bye!
< 1456374002 414487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «adu»
< 1456374010 421604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever :P
< 1456374010 968056 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's happening with my nick?
< 1456374020 574031 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ?
< 1456374025 368474 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I just had a power outage for 1 hour
< 1456374035 609080 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Is the line not highlighted all the way?
< 1456374042 97659 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, power outages suck
< 1456374051 522568 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we lit like 50 candles, and then blew out 50 candles when the power came on again
< 1456374057 356408 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456374061 405165 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun
< 1456374064 978278 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Did I tell you about thoof?
< 1456374075 843375 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is that the proof about Peano?
< 1456374087 203751 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or PCRE-based proofs?
< 1456374093 320425 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1456374097 251371 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes
< 1456374098 610003 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCRE-based proofs
< 1456374101 246648 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456374117 144921 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm low on battery
< 1456374127 296479 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you having a power outage?
< 1456374176 785646 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's with the ZWSP?
< 1456374176 983241 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1456374189 158780 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456374215 503060 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZWSP???
< 1456374238 296761 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero-width-space?
< 1456374241 301333 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my font, looks like ¯\(°[ZWSP])/¯
< 1456374251 69742 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh'
< 1456374285 470152 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out what it's supposed to look like
< 1456374304 998834 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not supposed to render
< 1456374327 323032 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what is it?
< 1456374345 50001 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what does it look like on your screen?
< 1456374346 834564 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero-width spacer?
< 1456374352 903606 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing
< 1456374359 81619 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(°_o)
< 1456374369 967011 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456374372 614727 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyes?
< 1456374374 250175 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: We should make one with legs xD
< 1456374383 378494 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(°_o)
< 1456374385 514256 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \
< 1456374389 361685 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: myndzi is awol
< 1456374389 533297 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the dunno lol face
< 1456374390 332372 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No...
< 1456374395 428541 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(°_o)
< 1456374397 615859 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :  |
< 1456374400 582884 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \
< 1456374402 671732 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: That looks more like it's laughing
< 1456374404 351109 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see the arms, I don't see the face
< 1456374422 658481 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I have a special font that renders unicode spaces
< 1456374426 117285 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Have you not seen it before?
< 1456374429 918128 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: That must be it then
< 1456374431 642977 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: seen what?
< 1456374447 926204 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen butt face: (_|_)
< 1456374450 658063 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? questionable content
< 1456374451 759158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :questionable content? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456374454 34101 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://idunnolol.com/
< 1456374455 425874 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I think that oerjan was doing something with ping prevention
< 1456374462 46073 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is that a 4chan thing?
< 1456374468 526253 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\_(ツ)_/¯
< 1456374470 878630 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1456374479 460687 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The middle doesn't render
< 1456374480 565796 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't do 4chan

< 1456374486 622534 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1456374488 447358 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like katakana
< 1456374508 728271 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: that's better :)
< 1456374524 716321 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!
< 1456374535 870278 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: looks like zim or grr making *whaaa* or *wheee* face
< 1456374551 457869 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a fair comparison :D
< 1456374562 844188 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes zim and grr

< 1456374566 306479 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't like 4chan

< 1456374607 703689 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Nobody likes 4chan. They all moved to infinitychan.
< 1456374614 317982 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 4chan
< 1456374615 430016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4chan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456374618 671973 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1456374622 404826 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol
< 1456374626 592528 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ
< 1456374637 298925 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed.
< 1456374654 544055 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :💩
< 1456374709 181342 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wait until they make racist fonts
< 1456374724 46731 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ?
< 1456374731 829466 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/
< 1456374828 325558 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, not "racist", I meant "FITZPATRICK TYPE"
< 1456374869 725535 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn 4chan is twice as loud as stereo.
< 1456374872 331048 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '4chan': 4chan is twice as loud as stereo.
< 1456374888 814138 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Unicode discriminates against purple people with ultraviolent pokadots
< 1456374897 689968 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lol
< 1456374918 682418 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pokadots that will rip you to shreds given the chance
< 1456375017 758456 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how some people want to go back in time and kill hitler?
< 1456375038 266800 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to go back in time and kill 4chan, and gif, and compuserve
< 1456375068 515560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gif is great
< 1456375075 577457 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did gif ever do to you?
< 1456375081 9871 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tell that to PNG, and JPEG2000
< 1456375089 433062 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It also discriminates against black gas pumps
< 1456375091 916882 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: none of which were around in 1989
< 1456375100 921400 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choosy moms choose GIF
< 1456375112 178455 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I shudder to pronounce it that way
< 1456375113 542229 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: gif is *old*. it was great at the time.
< 1456375118 827044 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, maybe I'll publish a paper on DWTs in 1972
< 1456375142 53913 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better than PCX, for example
< 1456375149 328452 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Subject_Emoji_Modifiers
< 1456375166 998680 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like getting a negative Erdős number would be a productive use of a time machine
< 1456375176 343061 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's the same link
< 1456375184 57297 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you did an anchor
< 1456375186 200289 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes, but that section explains my joke
< 1456375187 922467 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m
< 1456375248 421017 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: you can't publish -1 papers with Erdos
< 1456375265 878792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: really, don't kill gif. kill the netscape navigator authors who came up with the blink tag and thought displaying animanted gives was a bright idea, if you must kill somebody.
< 1456375282 709011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/gives/gifs/
< 1456375301 849463 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, but you could be the primary author on his first paper
< 1456375304 585220 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is beyond the scope of Unicode to provide an encoding-based mechanism for representing every aspect of human appearance diversity that emoji users might want to indicate.
< 1456375313 873619 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be willing to kill , but not netscape
< 1456375321 718420 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found a new niche for character encodings
< 1456375332 125783 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I would just kill the guy who invented blink
< 1456375343 459910 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :netscape gave birth to mozilla, and mozilla gave birth to Rust, and I am madly in love with Rust
< 1456375343 697058 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: whatever was wrong with mosaic ;)
< 1456375365 779794 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had rust before we had computers...
< 1456375375 708058 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: A character encoding with ALL the possible emoji in it
< 1456375379 122087 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not rust, "Rust"
< 1456375380 450577 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go back in time and fix the mess that is User-Agent
< 1456375390 416419 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.rust-lang.org/
< 1456375391 877904 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these newfangled language names that are common words really annoy me)
< 1456375421 869631 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Go is the worst offender, but neither "rust" nor "swift" are much better)
< 1456375422 802402 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Ruby? And Python? And C?
< 1456375443 553352 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first, I thought Rust was the same as Dylan, Delphi, Julia, Nim, you know the new compiled langs
< 1456375469 288178 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it grew on me, and I learned about the borrow, oh, the borrow
< 1456375496 984583 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's funny that google named their language Go, knowing full well googling "go" will probably get the word excluded from the search
< 1456375508 410752 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go and Swift are tinker toys, I don't really consider them compiled languages
< 1456375517 29758 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they were in the position to "fix" that
< 1456375524 555967 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised there isn't a Rust library called Arrietty, yet
< 1456375558 550245 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go and Swift are not really architecturally different than Cython or GCJ, just different names for stuff
< 1456375569 784528 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I think the presence and use of a compiler is what makes them compiled languages. :/
< 1456375590 74057 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: is Cython compiled? is GCJ compiled? no
< 1456375597 403754 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu : how do go/swift/cython/gcj work architecturally?
< 1456375610 18396 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're slight optimizations of a fundamentally interpreted model
< 1456375645 49244 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "compiled" means "compiled to machine code" for you
< 1456375658 534411 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than, say, bytecode or an IR
< 1456375686 539231 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: no, compiled is a philosophy, which you can't get by optimizing the interpreted, garbage collected, extremely RTTI-dependant model
< 1456375708 641376 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps I meant statically typed
< 1456375744 122319 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my usual classification is (I)static-typed-manual-mem-alloc (C++, asm, pascal...), (II)static-type-globally-garbage-collected (Java, C#), (III) dynamic-typed-globally-garbage-collected (perl, python, lua, javascript...)
< 1456375828 563952 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't touched go/swift/etc... but my really murky understanding was that they were somewhere between category (I) and (II)
< 1456375875 397928 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is "I am assembling an efficient binary with as few key presses as possible", and the other is "I'm playing with ideas, to see what happens without a compilation step"
< 1456375925 790489 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated
< 1456375945 530637 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, my classification is based on speed grades: you can get java to run pretty fast, but you can never prevent the garbage collector from stopping the world once in a while, which is why people who need speed grade (I) have never moved to java or C# (video games, pro audio)
< 1456375961 801077 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456376015 903738 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is also why asm.js exists: javascript is in speed grade (III) and cannot be moved from there, so they had to come up with something new for a faster speed grade
< 1456376042 757830 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Go is similar to Cython in the sense that the Go runtime is pretty much all of Plan9, but you get a binary from it so it's "compiled", Swift is Objective-C with a different syntax, Cython compiles your Python to C using libpython, so all the slowness of Python can still creep up on you, and GCJ compiles Java
< 1456376070 689833 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: sometimes speed and philosophy are incompatible
< 1456376165 377852 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, this is why speed grades exist
< 1456376178 512731 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: for BC/IR I would use "precompiled"
< 1456376199 666325 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: because there's still a lot of work to do
< 1456376210 913843 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically this is "given a perfect compiler/interpreter what's the fastest it can go"
< 1456376263 429567 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: there are many stop-free GCs, Go just switched to one recently, iirc
< 1456376327 128454 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'll believe that when I see it
< 1456376347 538230 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://talks.golang.org/2015/go-gc.pdf
< 1456376353 134704 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| (• ◡•)|
< 1456376359 211804 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also, generally grade (III) languages can't be threaded (except for lame workarounds like worker objects)
< 1456376363 105130 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
< 1456376420 936059 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://golang.org/doc/go1.5
< 1456376426 958321 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456376436 258601 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and languages in the same speed grade can generally be linked together (like asm and c++ in the same project)
< 1456376466 662386 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas c++ and java together means you get to use the horribly clunky JNI
< 1456376497 768245 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"virtuous cycle"
< 1456376507 337982 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: well, with your speed grades, I would put Go/Swift in (II) and Rust in (I)
< 1456376529 54613 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ‿ಠ
< 1456376564 46925 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go has a clunky FFI because it uses a completely incompatible calling convention
< 1456376586 523106 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I remember reading somewhere in rust documentation about one guy proposing to literally remove garbage collected objects so I guess that works there
< 1456376591 413369 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust uses the clang calling convention, which iirc, is the same as gcc
< 1456376617 756964 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: there is no gc in rust
< 1456376653 516320 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: there is a library, which no one uses, which provides a Gc generic type
< 1456376716 780394 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: I think rust-0.1-alpha had gc builtin, but that was way before 1.0 was released
< 1456376772 81934 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GC pause  [graph has points from about 0.2ms to 2.8ms]"
< 1456376833 977616 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456376865 919525 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably fast enough for video games (not for pro audio tho ;) )
< 1456377001 572040 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[LATENCY] [50 miliseconds]: Perceptual Causality (cursor response threshold)"
< 1456377022 867806 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true
< 1456377046 630292 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like 3 frames
< 1456377069 621515 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people can see and feel 3 frames
< 1456377202 307657 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: source?
< 1456377203 682412 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's impossible to play a synthesizer with 50ms latency
< 1456377222 28196 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu : add a 3 frame lag to a video game
< 1456377231 643310 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: link?
< 1456377234 609949 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guaranteed people will see it
< 1456377241 951255 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: reference?
< 1456377280 922553 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: url?
< 1456377323 773239 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just play minecraft and you'll see
< 1456377338 350728 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: minecraft is not written in Rust
< 1456377355 395596 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game has small lags all the time (which is probably inevitable considering how it works)
< 1456377400 764912 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: so your claim is that a certain lag is perceptible, not that Rust has gc
< 1456377406 614014 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456377409 34728 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok
< 1456377411 977989 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456377413 643224 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confused
< 1456377429 288190 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were saying that lag wasn't perceptible :o
< 1456377429 992985 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1456377442 767699 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were saying that Rust had gc
< 1456377445 281125 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1456377448 866839 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456377450 604948 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha of course not
< 1456377487 564132 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite FFI is Haskell's
< 1456377513 665121 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Rust is in speed grade (I) then it has a bright future
< 1456377555 715328 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was in speed grade (II) then I'd say it has to be better than C# or java... if it's in grade (I) it only has to be better than C++ :D
< 1456377564 989929 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"foreign puts :: CString -> IO ()", almost every FFI function has "IO a" as it's return type, there's something beautiful about that
< 1456377598 781470 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu : considering how haskell reorders everything, it pretty much has to, no? :D
< 1456377643 604459 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: I don't think its so much about reordering as purity
< 1456377664 810909 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both come together
< 1456377671 308483 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is "impure", and in order for Haskell to use it, it must be in the IO monad, which contains impurity
< 1456377681 540985 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have purity then you can't reorder anything
< 1456377696 873907 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1456377711 174364 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only do small scale reorderings
< 1456377718 441217 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is what GCC and LLVM do)
< 1456377761 795456 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once saw a presentation about reordering in Sun's HotSpot JVM, and how it spawned a JCP community around it
< 1456377761 991128 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you increase the scale of the reordering the potential interactions grow way too quickly which is why you can only do small local reorderings
< 1456377788 460596 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh?
< 1456377792 157966 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which then led to the official definition of "concurrent java"
< 1456377819 557331 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is also a fundamentally impure language
< 1456377859 589126 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since you have referrences all over the place.. :3
< 1456377867 262598 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and I know that java has had sync primitives from the beginning
< 1456377899 293218 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sync is different
< 1456377904 858981 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sync is just a mutex
< 1456377981 410903 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically when something is pure, that means it doesn't have referrences
< 1456378023 227433 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like you can only have one of these two things in a language
< 1456378061 680492 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: if you're interesting it was something like this: http://www.slideshare.net/alexandermartens/the-java-memory-model
< 1456378065 380245 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks of Rust as a mostly improved but sometimes weakened Haskell-lite

< 1456378073 252639 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm pretty sure that's not the exact presentation
< 1456378184 812603 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I wouldn't put Rust and Haskell on the same page
< 1456378195 858033 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but their type systems are similar
< 1456378220 317629 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu : some of those "atomicity" rules are basically just going with what they implemented on CPUs
< 1456378222 64736 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :their stance on purity, of course, different
< 1456378264 657942 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Access to variables of primitive types (excluding long and double) and reference variables are atomic."
< 1456378272 779026 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :&mut is pretty much ... similar to either State or ST, not sure which
< 1456378276 51780 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice the (excluding long and double)
< 1456378312 168830 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: or maybe it was http://www.slideshare.net/michalwarecki/java-memory-model-23207253
< 1456378352 976643 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I never understood State or ST, my haskell programming carrer has been in the IO, List sandbox
< 1456378407 742337 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :State is take a T, give back a T
< 1456378419 703532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And another value)
< 1456378442 18061 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: can I show off my haskell packages?
< 1456378460 327437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but I'm more obsessed with Rust at the moment
< 1456378481 655186 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: :D
< 1456378496 145776 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: then can I show off my rust packages?
< 1456378502 723256 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure
< 1456378514 282317 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/andydude/rust-sha
< 1456378693 955293 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456378732 954511 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456378754 170534 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My packages: https://github.com/Sgeo/take_mut and https://github.com/Sgeo/hlist
< 1456378766 562242 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm pretty sure it's the only SHA-3 implementation in Rust
< 1456378793 851579 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heterogeneous list? are you insane?
< 1456378814 633809 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With type-directed lookup reliant on type inference
< 1456378818 589366 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's something
< 1456378823 409726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antifunctions.
< 1456378827 354438 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda wondering
< 1456378839 355736 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functions are things that take [0, infinity) values and produce exactly 1 value
< 1456378844 161194 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you missed my showing off of my rust package: https://github.com/andydude/rust-sha
< 1456378859 602574 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antifunctions take exactly one value and return [0, infinity) values
< 1456378875 915366 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that sounds like category theory
< 1456378886 650069 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Does it?
< 1456378887 350593 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOod
< 1456378902 325886 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: How about Complex Fuzzy Bag typing (or just normal Fuzzy Bag typing)?
< 1456378932 843507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu, I also have an anonymous sum type. It feels like playing with water, it just expands to fill its container
< 1456378938 973573 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A type can be thought of like a set of possible values; a complex fuzzy bag type can be thought of as a set-like thing where values have a complex number representing how many times they appear in a set
< 1456378946 441117 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That's gas.
< 1456378985 950178 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water IS a gas *pretends that's what he had in mind*
< 1456378997 575985 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah, no
< 1456379015 55216 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water is only water in liquid form IMHUQO
< 1456379028 222127 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you know what would sound even more category theory? co-functions
< 1456379036 350387 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/ecee21895815fb2066e3
< 1456379045 740091 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: YES
< 1456379048 313025 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-functions
< 1456379054 883963 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: How do co-functions work
< 1456379061 805081 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lolol
< 1456379067 677782 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just how you described
< 1456379069 707981 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456379071 16245 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens with the multiple values they return?
< 1456379084 824131 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the program fork?
< 1456379099 506555 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "functions" are co-injective, so "co-functions" are just injective
< 1456379167 261405 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "injective" generally implies a function, so you have to specify "injective mapping"
< 1456379221 215698 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it probably works the same way the Haskell List monad does
< 1456379234 194190 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: The internet will not tell me anything about co-injective
< 1456379246 725847 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do x <- xs; return (f x)
< 1456379257 923072 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much the same as a for-loop
< 1456379278 906326 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ys = []; for x in xs: xs.append(f(x))
< 1456379284 599877 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ys
< 1456379286 235004 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit
< 1456379290 493063 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What does the List Monad do?
< 1456379291 796173 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my idea is ruined
< 1456379312 765298 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's kind of like a block, or { ... } thingy that runs on each element of the list
< 1456379330 987588 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1456379348 294878 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What about semifunctions?
< 1456379348 945019 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you're really interested you should learn about Monads
< 1456379353 567920 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should
< 1456379367 923202 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there are only 2 operations defined on a monad: join and return
< 1456379383 153355 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456379384 387906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu, you need fmap too
< 1456379406 19438 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "The Haskell Monad" f*cks it up a bit and only defined 2 methods: bind and return
< 1456379417 719911 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other than that "The Haskell Monad" and the mathematical monad are the same
< 1456379461 849210 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the List monad makes it easy to see, join :: [[a]] -> [a], and return :: a -> [a]
< 1456379468 31555 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So I'm trying to implement a category theory python library
< 1456379488 100297 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you can do whatever your heart desires, within reason
< 1456379489 315412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: The "mathematical monad" is perfectly fine to define in terms of (>>=) and return.
< 1456379499 475282 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah, my bad
< 1456379507 279129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People do it all the time.
< 1456379512 29844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the Kleisli category or something.
< 1456379518 433880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what it was called.
< 1456379528 639470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Kleisli category isn't it.
< 1456379544 94130 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh, and bind is pronounced (>>=) in Haskell
< 1456379619 565564 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know
< 1456379670 603506 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: YES!
< 1456379695 65807 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE _get_morphism_composition() METHOD FOR CATEGORY OBJECTS WORKS!
< 1456379706 338066 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just hope that I actually need it
< 1456379720 868698 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456379776 977575 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what it does is it looks for pairs of morphisms (f: x -> y, g: y -> z), and creates a new morphism f . g: x -> z
< 1456379778 874336 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1456379790 773805 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition?
< 1456379797 280116 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It uses the composition function the category is endowed with upon creation to compose them)
< 1456379810 778273 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"endowed"
< 1456379818 87715 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is usually just composition adu, yes)
< 1456379821 668331 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer "equipped"
< 1456379828 853502 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Well, that's passed to the __init__ method.
< 1456379831 645685 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to do math
< 1456379841 396942 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I got a job in I.T.
< 1456379848 912074 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Did you take a morphism to the knee?
< 1456379862 104550 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure what that means IRL
< 1456379871 401620 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: An arrow to the knee
< 1456379876 528031 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456379877 996235 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456379885 387935 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's a hilarious reference to a meme
< 1456379900 820156 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you know what my favorite mem is?
< 1456379917 801423 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: SO am I doing it right so far? It also autogenerates identify morphisms for objects when added
< 1456379919 947334 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I do not
< 1456379931 961053 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metameme
< 1456379944 833768 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa
< 1456379950 165249 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :identify -> identity?
< 1456379976 13355 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and now that I've told you about the metameme, you've just been infected with the meta-meta-meme
< 1456379998 902668 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1456380009 238586 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes, yes, identity
< 1456380114 917852 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So am I doing it right?
< 1456380129 120187 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, objects must all be of the same "sort"- graph, group, category, etc.
< 1456380158 954810 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably I should just github the code and let you go through it, but that would be too easy xD
< 1456380165 774147 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do these identity morphisms take up lots of RAM?
< 1456380179 321355 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If you have a big category, almost certainly.
< 1456380208 76568 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there's something very theraputic/cathartic/Turingesque about learning things through black-box-questioning
< 1456380208 817753 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, a morphism only takes up 128 bits IIANAI
< 1456380240 614420 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: OK
< 1456380305 175528 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIANAI = ?
< 1456380311 345424 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I Am Not An Idiot
< 1456380314 914522 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol
< 1456380321 795878 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I am, so that message was pointless.
< 1456380333 152397 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the proper term is IIRC
< 1456380341 903147 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: But I'm not remembering, I'm inferring
< 1456380365 642247 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing that python only uses 64 bits to reference an already-existing object
< 1456380371 682289 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't count sheep, I lie down, and try to remember things I've never remembered before"
< 1456380384 169279 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456380401 884595 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually sounds useful 0.0
< 1456380421 578627 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.165.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
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< 1456380458 101735 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So, you can add objects to the category, which will add them and an identity morphism, and you can add morphisms by supplying a domain, a codomain, and a function that represents the transformation
< 1456380492 618134 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding new morphisms will then make the program check for nontrivial compositions and add them to the list of morphisms.
< 1456380505 655537 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/qi/episodes/13/9/ --- well, um, some kind of hashtag for the part about "Tommy's father"
< 1456380537 389561 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :part -> parts
< 1456380543 601985 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/part/parts/
< 1456380561 645368 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I forget I'm talking to geeks
< 1456380575 213729 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Anything else I have to add? Or mention?
< 1456380611 873501 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did wrong and must now change?
< 1456380638 293987 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: stacktraces
< 1456380682 359620 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ...
< 1456380696 167470 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? stacktraces are important
< 1456380713 64668 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I think python will do the stacktraces for me
< 1456380722 529475 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, nm
< 1456380749 574377 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the most import part of any python library is 1 or 2 well-chosen decorators
< 1456380753 850650 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456380764 852664 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate decorators and don't know why
< 1456380808 156359 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, the Celery python library has @task for distinguishing between tasks and functions, and the AsyncIO python3 library has @coroutine for distinguishing between coroutines and functions
< 1456380830 682209 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What if I want a cotask?
< 1456380845 100385 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, for example, my work has something called @try_requests which wraps an HTTP request with lots of status_code checking
< 1456380874 831950 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: This isn't a library for other people to use, just a thing for me to understand kittygory theory
< 1456380881 840731 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456380886 471410 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm in close proximity to a kitty, don't blame me for my puns)
< 1456380895 317011 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and low intelligence)
< 1456380910 578724 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, I'm sorry for revealing a trade secret
< 1456380937 184699 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456380957 831425 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://docs.python-requests.org/en/master/
< 1456380979 309528 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the trade secret, now you know
< 1456380997 347705 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm not asking what I need for the library, I'm asking what to do to have a working category theory library, which I'm making so that I can understand /what/ category theory is like. To make things clear.
< 1456381004 567655 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1456381033 524197 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so you have morphisms, identity morphisms, objects, categories, and functors?
< 1456381050 566432 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoneda_lemma
< 1456381057 117867 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Functors- functors are just morphisms in a category category, right?
< 1456381077 798810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's backwards.
< 1456381085 522088 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes, for an object O, morphisms are (:: O -> O)
< 1456381090 22510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly not "just" true.
< 1456381104 799270 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: functors are (O, C) -> (O2, C2)
< 1456381107 808495 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What would be more accurate
< 1456381132 564439 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all O in C and for all O2 in C2
< 1456381153 299474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A functor F : C -> D maps each arrow in C to an arrow in D such that F1 = 1 and Ff.Fg = F(f.g)
< 1456381155 675480 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a functor must be structure-preserving
< 1456381174 208202 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god...
< 1456381181 400788 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remembered why I don't understand category theory
< 1456381192 111311 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have to close down the computer and watch something soon
< 1456381195 729239 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i.e. if O is a terminal object in C, then O2 must be a terminal object in C2
< 1456381217 34560 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So morphisms are the arrows in categories, right? Please tell me I got that right?
< 1456381222 528645 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1456381229 786447 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes
< 1456381234 462748 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, phew
< 1456381236 419103 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scared me there
< 1456381237 938991 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but functors are not just arrows
< 1456381256 370456 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: functors are a mapping between categories, in a way that all of the sub-arrows make sense
< 1456381261 942577 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1456381302 457533 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my "NO" was to your leaving me alone
< 1456381340 527656 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg
< 1456381344 224611 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456381351 180417 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456381352 187248 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bai
< 1456381472 451481 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you know I was joking, right?
< 1456381550 55225 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]?
< 1456381607 937726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456381648 961793 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, hppavilion thought I was serious...
< 1456381964 534446 :adu_!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456382127 277096 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456382127 656128 :adu_!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net NICK :adu
< 1456382938 623190 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck did I end up on the one list?
< 1456383007 633989 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you searched pictures of isis
< 1456383042 724428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log share/conscripts | grep ''
< 1456383043 834457 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      revert
< 1456383078 741176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh... but I thought I reverted something else
< 1456383080 54796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange
< 1456383092 66331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess bin/list can restrict to culprits that actually ran `list
< 1456383104 169130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, whatever, I'll have to dos myself out of the list with other nicks
< 1456383129 9707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not again. :-(
< 1456383258 380813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep -P 'summary:     <[^\s>]+> list$' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed 's/.$/\x0F&/' | xargs
< 1456383261 622629 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname chicken_jonas boily boily tswett metasepia Ngevd oklopol nortti Phantom_Hoover monqy Sgeo_ pikhq monqy Sgeo elliott Taneb elliott boily cuttlefish Taneb elliott boily ais52
< 1456383289 232858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep -P 'summary:     <[^\s>]+> list$' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed 's/.$/\x0F&/' | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs
< 1456383292 595038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname tswett metasepia Ngevd oklopol nortti Phantom_Hoover monqy Sgeo_ pikhq Sgeo elliott Taneb cuttlefish ais523
< 1456383333 541759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one even works with the original implementation.
< 1456383423 816221 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, grep -P instead of just putting it inside the awk statement
< 1456383459 51380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, I built it a piece at a time and copied from culprits.
< 1456383462 201658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1456383467 386686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, uh, does the same thing.
< 1456383473 412893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, I don't really know awk.
< 1456383477 191033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that you need awk here.
< 1456383477 349006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that exclude thosee nicks where I invoked the command with an argument?
< 1456383482 673660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does.
< 1456383490 32885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep -P 'summary:     <[^\s>]+> list' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed 's/.$/\x0F&/' | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs
< 1456383492 992002 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname tswett metasepia Ngevd oklopol nortti Phantom_Hoover monqy Sgeo_ pikhq Sgeo fungot elliott Taneb cuttlefish ais523 olsner
< 1456383497 323989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep -P 'summary:     <[^\s>]+> list\s?' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed 's/.$/\x0F&/' | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs
< 1456383500 379520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname tswett metasepia Ngevd oklopol nortti Phantom_Hoover monqy Sgeo_ pikhq Sgeo fungot elliott Taneb cuttlefish ais523 olsner
< 1456383509 551517 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the \s? doesn't do anything you know
< 1456383516 839867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, right.
< 1456383530 654125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\s|$
< 1456383535 172802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something.
< 1456383536 401365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You fix it.
< 1456383857 92006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log | awk '/summary:     <[^\s>]+> list(\s|$)/{n=substr($2,2,length($2)-2);if(!f[n]++)printf"%s ",sub(n,/.$/,"\x0F&")}' 
< 1456383868 381571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you substring $2?
< 1456383871 416086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk: line 1: syntax error at or near &
< 1456383881 59390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use <(^\s>]+)> or something.
< 1456383892 731479 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it would be easier to use perl...
< 1456383896 947255 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456383903 636729 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Back
< 1456383908 178972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since I don't speak enough awk
< 1456383911 503829 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log
< 1456383912 792159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset:   7005:3c723dce4e7b \ tag:         tip \ user:        HackBot \ date:        Thu Feb 25 04:34:31 2016 +0000 \ summary:      learn 4chan is twice as loud as stereo. \  \ changeset:   7004:4c654b530cd9 \ user:        HackBot \ date:        Thu Feb 25 04:20:01 2016 +0000 \ summary:      le/rn adu/Bye! \  \ changeset:  
< 1456383917 632743 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: wut
< 1456383932 329842 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm back
< 1456383934 922892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log | grep summary
< 1456383936 369798 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary:      learn 4chan is twice as loud as stereo. \ summary:      le/rn adu/Bye! \ summary:      le/rn madbr/He alternates between making sense, and being logical. He doesn\'t monetize the brotherhood scheme. \ summary:      list \ summary:      list \ summary:      le/rn weath
< 1456383944 595186 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: wut
< 1456383954 877071 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: u wot m8?
< 1456383966 696013 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't speak LOL
< 1456383974 693843 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Good.
< 1456383997 311173 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` awk 'BEGIN{print"left\x0Fright";exit}' | cat -v
< 1456383998 103103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :left^Oright
< 1456384003 271697 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I wanted you amuse ppl, that's all
< 1456384009 218244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, then what was the syntax error
< 1456384016 313092 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you/to
< 1456384044 339318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this might be simpler if I directly asked hg to put something more suitable
< 1456384048 650147 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Syntax Error: Unterminated s/// expression
< 1456384070 881149 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/
< 1456384084 421199 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/// is a sed-ism
< 1456384089 674472 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ed it's not required
< 1456384091 894646 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Yes, I know
< 1456384102 602746 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :although s// and s/// do something different in ed
< 1456384118 167985 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So what exactly is the mathematical definition of "making sense"?
< 1456384131 505350 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: non-contradiction
< 1456384135 256347 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently laying on a blanket on top of a bare mattress pad
< 1456384143 730011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log --template "{author} " culprits
< 1456384145 933181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384147 143511 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: In the context of functors having to map arrows in a way that "makes sense"
< 1456384152 270823 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type ed
< 1456384153 13421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed is /bin/ed
< 1456384158 723490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log --template "{author} " bin/list
< 1456384160 114443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBot HackBo
< 1456384161 726521 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/`
< 1456384162 457580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1"
< 1456384163 298812 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what file does list touch?
< 1456384179 655245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log --template "{desc} " bin/list
< 1456384180 451879 :Jakeey802!af216de8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.175.33.109.232 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456384180 815838 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` sed -i \'s/sort -u/awk \'\\\'\'!x[$0]++\'\\\'\'/\' bin/list  ` sed -i \'s!$! | xargs -n 1 | sort -u | xargs!\' bin/list  ` sed -i \'s!conscripts!share/conscripts!g\' bin/list  mkx bin/list//date > conscripts; culprits conscripts  mkx bin/list//echo $(($(cat conscripts)+1)) > conscripts; culprits cons
< 1456384191 722516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log --template "{desc}\n" bin/list
< 1456384192 125086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!
< 1456384192 830189 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` sed -i \'s/sort -u/awk \'\\\'\'!x[$0]++\'\\\'\'/\' bin/list \  ` sed -i \'s!$! | xargs -n 1 | sort -u | xargs!\' bin/list \  ` sed -i \'s!conscripts!share/conscripts!g\' bin/list \  mkx bin/list//date > conscripts; culprits conscripts \  mkx bin/list//echo $(($(cat conscripts)+1)) > conscripts; culpr
< 1456384196 842797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG
< 1456384219 584608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :conscripts!
< 1456384221 350185 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if O, Q in C, and M(O) == Q, and O2, Q2 in C2, then M2(O2) must be Q2
< 1456384223 158631 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log --template "{desc}\n" conscripts
< 1456384223 981061 :Jakeey802!af216de8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.175.33.109.232 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1456384225 126662 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384236 46245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls conscripts
< 1456384236 536655 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 8.21 / (60 / 21) 
< 1456384237 34954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access conscripts: No such file or directory
< 1456384238 846329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.8735000000000004
< 1456384245 471675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's share/conscripts
< 1456384249 460273 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah?
< 1456384250 686379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find -name conscripts
< 1456384260 583569 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: How do I put that in Python?
< 1456384261 575574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./share/conscripts
< 1456384262 822961 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I might have put the "if"s in the wrong place
< 1456384262 981017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log --tempalte "{desc}\n" share/conscripts
< 1456384264 590586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log: option --tempalte not recognized \ hg log [OPTION]... [FILE] \  \ show revision history of entire repository or files \  \ options: \  \  -f --follow              follow changeset history, or file history across \                           copies and renames \  -d --date DATE           show revisions matching date spec \  -C --copies       
< 1456384269 599286 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: decorators
< 1456384278 286522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\n" share/conscripts
< 1456384279 205224 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Oh?
< 1456384279 447816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ list \  list \  revert \  list \  list \  list \  list \  list \  list \  list soon the too many nick changes rule will trigger on freenode \  list everypony \  list me too \  8.74 / (21 / 60) 
< 1456384292 867667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24.971428571428575
< 1456384293 850057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sorry
< 1456384298 955650 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Tis fine.
< 1456384303 881722 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thought I should mention it
< 1456384305 326516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a side-effect of the list
< 1456384324 330687 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, I mean how do I check that that is true? that O, Q...
< 1456384350 836217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: If you use hg log instead of hg log share/conscripts, it'll find other uses of `list
< 1456384361 491729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think part of the spirit of `list is that once you've done it once, it's unescapable.
< 1456384387 625979 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list
< 1456384388 462662 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date > share/conscripts; culprits share/conscripts | xargs -n 1 | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs
< 1456384405 277559 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn
< 1456384420 82862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" share/conscripts | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)> list[\s\0]/ and print$1'
< 1456384420 826970 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot about `culprits`
< 1456384421 535298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]hppavilion[1]boilya`a`a`a`jo7asa`a`a`a`jo8asa`a`a`a`jo3asa`a`a`a`jo6asa`a`a`a`jo5asa`a`a`a`jo4asa`a`a`a`jo3asa`a`a`a`jo2asa`a`a`a`jo1asa`a`a`a`jonas0a`a`a`alambdabotchicken_jonaschicken_jonaschicken_jonasmynamechicken_jonasboilyboily
< 1456384429 770188 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the way that Haskell does it is that the theorems and properties are clearly documented, and any time you disobey them, they call it "Unspecified Behaviour" and scare people
< 1456384432 403115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat -v culprits
< 1456384433 359290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: culprits: No such file or directory
< 1456384436 594269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat -v bin/culprits
< 1456384437 455765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs
< 1456384446 233610 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah
< 1456384446 442191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary awk stuff
< 1456384450 993731 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" share/conscripts | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)> list[\s\0]/ and print$1'
< 1456384452 247795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]hppavilion[1]boilya`a`a`a`jo7asa`a`a`a`jo8asa`a`a`a`jo3asa`a`a`a`jo6asa`a`a`a`jo5asa`a`a`a`jo4asa`a`a`a`jo3asa`a`a`a`jo2asa`a`a`a`jo1asa`a`a`a`jonas0a`a`a`alambdabotchicken_jonaschicken_jonaschicken_jonasmynamechicken_jonasboilyboily
< 1456384458 778547 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" share/conscripts | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)> list[\s\0]/ and print"$1 "'
< 1456384460 245613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas chicken_jonas chicken_jonas myname chicken_jonas boily boily
< 1456384471 348775 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you want a system that enforces it, I suggest Coq, and no, that's not sexual
< 1456384476 491824 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456384479 458968 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of Coq
< 1456384483 870263 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm MAKING a bad Coq
< 1456384488 197987 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" share/conscripts | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)> list[\s\0]/ and!$t{$1}++and print"$1 "'
< 1456384489 545757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname
< 1456384494 632605 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coq means chicken in some language
< 1456384497 284819 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So I just make a Functor class (possibly a subclass of Morphism) that raises an exception if you violate the GRAND PROPERTIES OF FUNCTORS
< 1456384500 109760 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: French.
< 1456384504 686938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" share/conscripts | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and!$t{$1}++and print"$1 "'
< 1456384505 941066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname
< 1456384507 424978 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously french.
< 1456384510 956845 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: French, figures
< 1456384575 559874 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm just attempting to provide bibliographic references in case you want to write a paper about it
< 1456384606 340806 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What exactly are you trying to do?
< 1456384620 38258 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_j: wut
< 1456384634 335771 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So again, do I implement functors by making the functor class, which throws an exception when you don't functor properly?
< 1456384655 181054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e-e($o="bin/culprits-ng") and die; open$O,">",$o or die; print $O qq{#!/bin/sh\n},q{exec hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- "$@" | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and!$t{$1}++and print"$1 "'}; close$O;chmod 0755,$o or die;
< 1456384657 921902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384660 159167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you don't implement these things in Python at all.
< 1456384661 600450 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456384670 499733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng share/conscripts
< 1456384671 249749 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do because I'm a rebel
< 1456384671 720846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname
< 1456384674 802081 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there's a thing I did to wrap every function everywhere
< 1456384676 145811 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng wisdom/ent
< 1456384677 621147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas
< 1456384680 703776 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: let me see if I can find it
< 1456384695 966520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng wisdom/oerjan
< 1456384697 395715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523
< 1456384702 179069 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, this works
< 1456384735 951784 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First-class shebang hth
< 1456384767 253228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $PATH
< 1456384768 94540 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
< 1456384771 70036 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://pastie.org/10736764
< 1456384807 363404 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e-e($o="bin/list-ng") and die; open$O,">",$o or die; print $O "#!/bin/sh\nexec culprits-ng ~/share/conscripts\n"; close$O;chmod 0755,$o or die;
< 1456384808 900680 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Huh? What's that?
< 1456384809 591927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384826 464985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo > bin/culprits-ng
< 1456384828 914619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384836 406361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng bin/list
< 1456384837 328752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384838 848659 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, to wrap ALL the functions
< 1456384844 150947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1456384845 858930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Wait, usually you don't want culprits to uniq
< 1456384849 230773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only relevant for `list
< 1456384859 797622 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Are you trying to un`list yourself?
< 1456384861 185860 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: debug_wrap_module() wrapps every function in a module to do something before and after the function, similar to "aspect-oriented programming"
< 1456384871 862778 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh
< 1456384875 205440 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: using "functools" you can probably do something similar
< 1456384875 972319 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e-e($o="bin/culprits-ng") and die; open$O,">",$o or die; print $O "#!/bin/sh\n",q{exec hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- "$@" | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and!$t{$1}++and print"$1 "'},"\n"; close$O;chmod 0755,$o or die;
< 1456384876 641440 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Died at -e line 1.
< 1456384882 186543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it shouldn't uniq? ok
< 1456384888 192422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know.
< 1456384894 369729 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e($o="bin/culprits-ng"); open$O,">",$o or die; print $O "#!/bin/sh\n",q{exec hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- "$@" | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and!$t{$1}++and print"$1 "'},"\n"; close$O;chmod 0755,$o or die;
< 1456384897 377125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384899 754396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng bin/list
< 1456384900 977429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf ais523 oerjan elliott Sgeo Phantom_Hoover tswett boily metasepia Ngevd oklopol nortti monqy Sgeo_ pikhq fungot Taneb cuttlefish Jafet Bike
< 1456384920 95281 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, decorators are a great way to do something before and after a function
< 1456384946 259099 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: OK, but this doesn't help me with functors xD
< 1456384968 277001 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e($o="bin/culprits-ng"); open$O,">",$o or die; print $O "#!/bin/sh\n",q{exec hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- "$@" | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and print"$1 "'},"\n"; close$O;chmod 0755,$o or die;
< 1456384970 292521 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456384976 402143 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng bin/list
< 1456384978 831897 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf ais523 oerjan shachaf shachaf elliott Sgeo Phantom_Hoover elliott elliott tswett tswett elliott tswett boily boily metasepia tswett Ngevd oerjan elliott oerjan elliott Sgeo oklopol nortti elliott shachaf elliott Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover monqy elliott Sgeo_ pikhq oerjan shachaf elliott shachaf elliott monqy
< 1456384982 722072 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng wisdom/ent
< 1456384984 122652 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas
< 1456384986 91485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-ng wisdom/oerjan
< 1456384986 982574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf shachaf oerjan shachaf oerjan shachaf oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull shachaf shachaf ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan shachaf
< 1456384995 33060 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think `list is a fun club you get to be in B|
< 1456385004 9209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any chance you could do this in privmsg?
< 1456385012 475096 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: OH MY GOD YES
< 1456385020 464116 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg
< 1456385023 268215 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FORGOT ABOUT PRVMSG
< 1456385023 626553 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1456385027 910109 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooooooooooow
< 1456385046 145021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of interested in the EgoHacks.
< 1456385053 974808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it's pretty noisy.
< 1456385066 614033 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait
< 1456385069 354396 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe put a zero-width space between every character?
< 1456385078 178124 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to noping them people
< 1456385080 622697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like culprits does
< 1456385191 421542 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#`perl -e($o="bin/culprits-ng"); open$O,">",$o or die; print $O "#!/bin/sh\n",q{exec hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- "$@" | perl -0ne 'if(/^<([^>]*)>/){$n=$1;}'},"\n"; close$O;chmod 0755,$o or die;
< 1456385201 995377 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` chmod 644 bin/culprits-ng
< 1456385204 170121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix it later
< 1456385204 778806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456385214 968299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll need to implement proper noping for it
< 1456385220 82111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is mor than I can do right now
< 1456385241 986944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't want to see it here, I can do it in private message (or some other channel)
< 1456385271 951592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm bin/list-ng
< 1456385274 94157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456385277 29997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm bin/list-ng
< 1456385277 893586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `bin/list-ng': No such file or directory
< 1456385299 284570 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1456385308 61472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname
< 1456385352 307920 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird that there's some strange character between 1 and ]
< 1456385473 393750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's because the actual list command does a noping
< 1456385516 532023 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456386528 247840 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was looking for an easy way to get the maximum amount of entropy out of a floating point value
< 1456386567 64555 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now what i do is divide the float by two until its less or equal to 1 then multiply it by 0xFFFFFFF
< 1456386735 600266 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456386738 866639 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so idk if theres anything short of getting the raw mantissa and exponent of it 
< 1456389145 954829 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456389419 935932 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456390514 321061 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gulpo, the Fish who eats Conceps
< 1456390517 291102 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Concepts
< 1456390681 619061 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456393854 40098 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456394011 800786 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sisyphus: The Video Gaem
< 1456394403 592439 :andrew!~andrew@119.137.94.73 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456395154 963179 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456395639 224216 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456395820 670374 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456396394 43599 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456396655 69977 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456396924 82466 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456397078 984868 :noncom!~noncom@37.221.200.34 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456397727 57922 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456398967 981127 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456399509 261656 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456400043 941555 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456400272 605096 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456400273 597223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 251131Z 01010KT 2 1/2SM -RA BR OVC003 00/M00 A2912 RMK SF8 -RA INTMT SLP863
< 1456400287 282772 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that shachafweathercommand again...
< 1456400292 137040 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456400299 982934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?? (?metar CYUL) \ (?metar ENVA) \ (?metar ESSB) \ (?metar KOAK)
< 1456400301 614221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 251131Z 01010KT 2 1/2SM -RA BR OVC003 00/M00 A2912 RMK SF8 -RA INTMT SLP863 \ ENVA 251120Z 32005KT 9999 VCSH FEW015 SCT025CB BKN049 02/00 Q0999 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 30006KT \ ESSB 251120Z 24006KT CAVOK 01/M04 Q0998 R30/19//56 \ KOAK 251053Z 32004KT 10SM CLR 13/09 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP195 T01280089
< 1456400325 77714 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. No Cow Weather indeed.
< 1456400883 93191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL
< 1456400884 141143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 251120Z AUTO 32005KT 290V350 9999 BKN015 04/M01 Q1018
< 1456400886 481132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK
< 1456400888 143455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 251120Z 20014KT 9999 BKN015 02/M01 Q0997 TEMPO BKN014
< 1456400897 970440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not a big difference.
< 1456402695 41544 :benderpc_!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:345e:bfc6:621b:d773 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456402740 885488 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: WEEKLY CHICKEN
< 1456402779 612964 :benderpc_!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:345e:bfc6:621b:d773 QUIT :Changing host
< 1456402779 770725 :benderpc_!benderpc@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456402793 777793 :benderpc_!benderpc@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 NICK :bender|
< 1456402795 738398 :bender|!benderpc@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 NICK :bender
< 1456403483 56233 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456404607 149021 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-73-55.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456405072 735822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456405434 176028 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456405692 137994 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456406342 730748 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456407769 101122 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456407839 665122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456408215 230302 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456410375 981168 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456410931 300218 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456411595 308257 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSFO
< 1456411597 928552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 251356Z 00000KT 10SM CLR 11/09 A3012 RMK AO2 SLP200 T01110089 $
< 1456411875 981988 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456412164 3117 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1456412438 955359 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456413815 530276 :llue!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456413826 533365 :llue!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
< 1456413826 691304 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456414018 941554 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456414019 146976 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456414413 92229 :bender!benderpc@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456415273 539556 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456415736 141441 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejt71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456415833 828693 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye
< 1456418551 620464 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456418815 600521 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456419366 538774 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-swhzfglcoyzyfcqt QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1456419577 442004 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-oxjgaqxsowtosmdi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456420552 621550 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456420919 211788 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ༖
< 1456420925 755522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0F16 TIBETAN LOGOTYPE SIGN LHAG RTAGS]
< 1456421859 884154 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456422350 608690 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456422456 690336 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1456422557 586064 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456423558 455869 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456423560 956059 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@24.156.46.61 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456423584 297089 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456424548 547090 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456424757 962212 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456425184 446845 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456425992 307130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456427081 615765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK
< 1456427083 801511 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 251853Z 24005KT 8SM SCT160 SCT200 16/11 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP215 T01610106
< 1456427084 780154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSFO
< 1456427085 807194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 251856Z 03004KT 9SM BKN200 16/14 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP214 T01560144 $
< 1456427101 726403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSJC
< 1456427103 824261 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSJC 251853Z 00000KT 10SM FEW100 SCT130 19/08 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP212 T01890083
< 1456428303 289215 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1456428836 200893 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBTV
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< 1456435256 441190 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I include y/// notation in Thoof?
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< 1456435784 344671 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode oerjan
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< 1456435795 864751 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+006A LATIN SMALL LETTER J] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N]
< 1456435834 605900 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats b_jonas for pinging him all over the logs -----###

< 1456435973 431337 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits-ng
< 1456435974 294466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- "$@" | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and print"$1 "'
< 1456436033 994722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't use that one, it currently doesn't have noping
< 1456436040 874052 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to implement a proper noping, and then add it in
< 1456436057 121244 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well that's why i swatted you
< 1456436073 925540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry
< 1456436091 732298 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to see if there was some broken attempt at it
< 1456436151 195320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerja-ng
< 1456436176 60720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So what does ?A do in linear logic?
< 1456436187 511308 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck if i know
< 1456436189 819344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ?A = _|_ & A & A#A & A#A#A & ...
< 1456436196 63335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I need to understand #
< 1456436203 873562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a superpower only you possess.
< 1456436217 162448 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, logically that should be true (assuming that's the dual of the obvious !A expansion)
< 1456436248 471506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, wait.
< 1456436255 327146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?A = _|_ + A + A#A + A#A#A + ...
< 1456436258 210540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? .
< 1456436260 995599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :& would make no sense.
< 1456436277 300035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The obvious !A expansion being !A = 1 & A & AxA & AxAxA + ...?
< 1456436294 918129 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably.  assuming 1 is right there
< 1456436310 796897 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it should be iirc
< 1456436318 342410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the identity of x
< 1456436323 384449 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1456436360 342688 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so with + you don't get to decide which term you get to use
< 1456436407 5275 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need to be able to handle any
< 1456436449 409842 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand # mostly as wrapping x in de morgan and letting negation be continuations...
< 1456436462 540515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope that's right enough
< 1456436519 579286 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :A -> B was ~A # B, hm
< 1456436552 178068 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~A was A -> _|_, then...
< 1456436556 347190 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if I wrote a noping utility for HackEgo, but its implementation was mildly obfuscated and so hard to understand or maintain, this channel wouldn't consider that a bug, right?
< 1456436572 446230 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: um...
< 1456436576 938323 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because this is typically the kind of string manipulation stuff where unreadable perl code excels.
< 1456436579 675591 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE NOT
< 1456436619 469826 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case go ahead
< 1456436656 849381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It would be as if oerjan taught a class about linear logic, but used a simplified version of one of the unusual connectives to make it easier to understand.
< 1456436666 619791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Which is to say, it would be par for the course.
< 1456436699 178413 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily shachaf needs a mapoling hth
< 1456436700 767706 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1456436781 652322 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, someone needs to explain to me how (A -> _|_) -> _|_ can manage to always be A
< 1456436800 248136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's -o, not ->, hth
< 1456436803 968442 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456436807 587650 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right.
< 1456436823 176479 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now, someone needs to explain to me how (A -o _|_) -o _|_ can manage to always be A
< 1456436826 528908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A -o B = ~A # B
< 1456436848 669660 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i think in some sense that _is_ the central question of making sense of # and negation in linear logic
< 1456436855 286534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -eprint unpack "x*(a*\@0X)*(a*@)*", "hello\n";
< 1456436860 737002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint unpack "x*(a*\@0X)*(a*@)*", "hello\n";
< 1456436861 876843 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ o \ lo \ llo \ ello \ hello \ ello \ llo \ lo \ o
< 1456436867 746618 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because -o seems perfectly logical, as do &, + and x
< 1456436873 63212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint unpack "x*(a*\@0X)*", "hello\n";
< 1456436874 442848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ o \ lo \ llo \ ello
< 1456436877 17174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh.
< 1456436881 684213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something is messing up my terminal.
< 1456436884 498548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it b_jonas?
< 1456436884 729390 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint unpack "(a*@)*", "hello\n";
< 1456436885 501423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello \ ello \ llo \ lo \ o
< 1456436900 824762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what? I don't think it was me this time
< 1456436900 982693 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: presumably HackEgo 
< 1456436914 903024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, is b_jonas printing some evil characters?
< 1456436919 321132 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so
< 1456436922 697281 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not intentionally at least
< 1456436944 38223 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: whenever HackEgo prints a line starting with a non-alphanum, it inserts the char that bothers shachaf 
< 1456436953 906620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1456436958 673273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one simply computes all the suffixes of a string. Pity there's no such easy way to generate all prefixies.
< 1456436975 363691 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still generate all prefixes, but it's much uglier.
< 1456436992 874681 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which char is that?
< 1456436993 63045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: map reverse . suffixes . reverse hth
< 1456437006 766338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, that's the basic idea. and you can reverse with unpack IIRC
< 1456437035 306699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how can -o be logical if # isn't logical hth
< 1456437055 445732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because the illogicality comes from _|_ or negation
< 1456437065 296435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: different notation. -o is logical or in find, but it's linear implication in linear logic.
< 1456437081 227465 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally different operations, people just happened to name them the same
< 1456437086 162542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point.
< 1456437103 866664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like how ^ can mean logical and, bitwise xor, power
< 1456437123 233065 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are you interpreting "logical" as a technical term, bad move
< 1456437128 467272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logical and is /\
< 1456437128 467313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :              /  \
< 1456437158 537865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I'm waiting for that stick figure bot to print the third line
< 1456437176 495651 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :             /    \o/
< 1456437180 158348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That only happens for LOGICAL CHRISTMAS TREE
< 1456437191 685572 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we have that bot running?
< 1456437206 154494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "bot" is a person, myndzi, who's been gone for a long time.
< 1456437224 723083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, most bots are persons. 
< 1456437230 855532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to find a replacement who's as fast a typist.
< 1456437239 317997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate
< 1456437239 476017 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1456437251 248276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That command should be renamed to ^decapitate
< 1456437284 32532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think -o might still be odd without _|_ and #
< 1456437321 201222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: here's yet another experimental newly developped distributed version control system I hadn't heared about before: http://pijul.org/
< 1456437351 464420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I haven't seen that one either
< 1456437352 846233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks

< 1456437370 766197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it does or whether it's any good
< 1456437390 859388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a rewrite of darcs
< 1456437393 675464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the same principles
< 1456437400 147821 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode > ​ \
< 1456437401 320159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+005C REVERSE SOLIDUS]
< 1456437416 792266 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that one
< 1456437483 650 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I see
< 1456437492 319792 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why that would mess up shachaf's terminal though
< 1456437503 768479 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: skeptical
< 1456437522 532613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, interesting license choice
< 1456437547 906306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's AGPL in an attempt to stop someone making a CVCS out of it
< 1456437592 868244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? what's "AGPL", as opposed to just GPL 3 (Gnu general public license version 3)? 
< 1456437595 442520 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well, it does.
< 1456437625 489555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: AGPL is basically GPL with an extra case: if you let people use the software over a network, you have to give them source
< 1456437640 836881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I see
< 1456437661 236465 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that one is evil)
< 1456437732 841064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, it says “At the time of this writing (version 0.2), files are all treated as text, and patches are mostly concerned with lines.” – exactly what I don't want from a vcs
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< 1456437902 403861 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is the sanest identity, it's basically () from haskell
< 1456438009 663772 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the others look impossible to construct or use...
< 1456438016 302937 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least one way each
< 1456438095 632146 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1456438169 623448 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 and ^|^ are like Void a bit
< 1456438195 150238 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is the option that the constructor cannot give
< 1456438204 877917 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1456438205 381278 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^|^ is the option that the consumer cannot choose
< 1456438398 429335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is like Void
< 1456438404 114231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ is a lot more like Either than & is
< 1456438423 471194 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're continuations of each other
< 1456438487 963199 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 0 x A = 0 ?
< 1456438586 416911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently yes.
< 1456438589 852935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://llwiki.ens-lyon.fr/mediawiki/index.php/Sequent_calculus
< 1456438663 50046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, !T = 1 ?
< 1456438680 665781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, makes sense.
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< 1456438959 245999 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like "why not"
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< 1456439122 211722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because it makes no sense hth
< 1456439152 999413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :potion of confusing
< 1456439246 8269 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?los dos
< 1456439248 284363 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: yow list let docs do
< 1456439259 166380 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: maybe.
< 1456439422 408658 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `? weather <-- fancy
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< 1456439606 667024 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?. ?? ?run var$("(?metar "++).(++") \ ")=<<["CYUL","ENVA","ESSB","KOAK"]
< 1456439607 3360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "??"
< 1456439614 567434 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?. ? run var$("(?metar "++).(++") \ ")=<<["CYUL","ENVA","ESSB","KOAK"]
< 1456439619 18232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:28:
< 1456439621 3026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     lexical error in string/character literal at character '"'
< 1456439622 995247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 
< 1456439628 556596 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1456439653 80644 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?run var$("(?metar "++).(++") \ ")=<<["CYUL","ENVA","ESSB","KOAK"]
< 1456439657 25312 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:28:
< 1456439659 43299 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     lexical error in string/character literal at character '"'
< 1456439669 163779 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly that's not quite right
< 1456439732 827928 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?. ? run var$("(?metar "++).(++") \\ ")=<<["CYUL","ENVA","ESSB","KOAK"]
< 1456439739 566450 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 252200Z 26011KT 12SM -SN FEW008 BKN018 OVC030 01/M01 A2915 RMK SF2SF3SC3 SLP875 \ ENVA 252220Z 00000KT 5000 -SN VV009 M00/M01 Q0998 RMK WIND 670FT VRB02KT \ ESSB 252220Z AUTO 26007KT 9999 NCD M01/M06 Q0999 \ KOAK 252153Z 25006KT 10SM FEW160 19/09 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP194 T01940094 \
< 1456439741 544052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 
< 1456439815 224889 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n " "; \? weather
< 1456439816 828061 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ lambdabot: ?? (?metar CYUL) \ (?metar ENVA) \ (?metar ESSB) \ (?metar KOAK)
< 1456440163 224623 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The red button panel in http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3440 is actually really cool.
< 1456440489 707029 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fun
< 1456440494 61259 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :FromExpr a => String -> a
< 1456440508 828731 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t op
< 1456440512 63998 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrapped s => (Unwrapped s -> s) -> s -> Unwrapped s
< 1456440629 522379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @? @run var$("(?metar "++).(++") \\ ")=< hppavilion[1]: as long as it features ¨ on egregious glyphs, and that multiocular O. <-- ¨ on multiocular O, check
< 1456442444 165019 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456442498 329552 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? madbr
< 1456442499 505772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He alternates between making sense, and being logical. He doesn't monetize the brotherhood scheme.
< 1456442516 609413 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/He/madbr/' wisdom/madbr
< 1456442518 718410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456442582 801463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?@ ?run var$intercalate " \\ " . map (\x -> "(@metar "++x++")") . words $ ?show ENVA KOAK
< 1456442588 589540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ENVA 252250Z 00000KT 5000 -SN VV009 M00/M01 Q0998 RMK WIND 670FT 25002KT \ KOAK 252253Z 27006KT 9SM FEW160 21/09 A3009 RMK AO2 SLP189 T02060094
< 1456442591 511914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ weather ?? ?@ ?run var$intercalate " \\ " . map (\x -> "(@metar "++x++")") . words $ ?show
< 1456442594 700590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1456442597 173579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456442599 248773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?? ?@ (?where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK
< 1456442603 559627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right.
< 1456442605 18571 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spacy
< 1456442605 851429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode multiocular o
< 1456442606 635158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore - HackEgo
< 1456442608 583038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 ae  UTF-16BE: a66e  Decimal: ꙮ \ ꙮ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right)
< 1456442612 181217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456442614 230162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?? ?@ (?where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK
< 1456442623 244824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 252300Z 26013KT 2 1/2SM -SN BKN009 OVC014 00/M01 A2919 RMK SN2SF4SF2 SLP887 \ ENVA 252250Z 00000KT 5000 -SN VV009 M00/M01 Q0998 RMK WIND 670FT 25002KT \ ESSB 252250Z AUTO 26008KT 9999 NCD M01/M06 Q0999 \ KOAK 252253Z 27006KT 9SM FEW160 21/09 A3009 RMK AO2 SLP189 T02060094
< 1456442625 609424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore + HackEgo
< 1456442639 716635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is definitely the least noisy way to find out the weather.
< 1456442648 8516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode combining umlaut
< 1456442649 231500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456442652 465803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456442667 331364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode combining diaeresis
< 1456442668 196695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̈
< 1456442788 726287 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n ꙮ;unicode combining diaeresis
< 1456442790 255433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮU+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS \ UTF-8: cc 88  UTF-16BE: 0308  Decimal: ̈ \  ̈ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 230 (Above) \  \ U+0324 COMBINING DIAERESIS BELOW \ UTF-8: cc a4  UTF-16BE: 0324  Decimal: ̤ \  ̤ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 2
< 1456442797 767577 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit
< 1456442805 60435 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did that happen
< 1456442819 260537 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456442825 852350 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n ꙮ;unicode 'combining diaeresis'
< 1456442826 876172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮ̈
< 1456442869 606391 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily MWꙮ̈Hꙮ̈Hꙮ̈Hꙮ̈
< 1456442871 307166 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456442906 957998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did we get sidetracked from linear logic tdnh
< 1456442912 798359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were about to tell me what _|_ meant
< 1456442927 601981 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_|_ means i dunno
< 1456442941 33567 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a deep, bottomless void
< 1456442958 693897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://llwiki.ens-lyon.fr/mediawiki/index.php/Intuitionistic_linear_logic
< 1456442973 364311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The connectives #, _|_ and ? are not available anymore, but the linear implication -o is."
< 1456442977 249751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing you're a fan hth
< 1456442987 296469 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1456442998 711638 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456443028 116780 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, there's something deeply mysterious about truly self-dual linear logic
< 1456443028 389063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i misguess
< 1456443036 791752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the duality is p. important
< 1456443042 38015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :without duality what do you even have
< 1456443043 847096 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's the secret of quantum mechanics twh
< 1456443074 834760 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk
< 1456443076 912478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i figured out the secret to the speed of light the other day
< 1456443082 104503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind then
< 1456443243 752795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, http://llwiki.ens-lyon.fr/mediawiki/index.php/Translations_of_classical_logic
< 1456443246 793340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://llwiki.ens-lyon.fr/mediawiki/index.php/Translations_of_intuitionistic_logic
< 1456443778 229412 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm?
< 1456443823 453477 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT SECRET
< 1456443934 697276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know if it actually makes sense.
< 1456443966 541158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should talk to someone who knows about physics about it.
< 1456443984 433865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more of an analogy, really.
< 1456443997 365507 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do know some physics.
< 1456444025 940987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then can you explain the speed of light twh
< 1456444133 297761 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's basically the fundamental speed of relativity theory
< 1456444182 606223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway there's this thing called "volume time".
< 1456444226 568900 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of it
< 1456444227 225845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the sense of trading volume. Each time someone buys or sell something the volume time of that thing increases.
< 1456444241 523798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in particular, one person buys and the other person sells.
< 1456444253 973924 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456444261 556383 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees a financial person with a hammer

< 1456444273 386898 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think teams of scientists should design video game stat systems
< 1456444282 236971 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thousands upon thousands of variables
< 1456444285 569403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: take that back twh
< 1456444299 258254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has nothing to do with physics anyway, I was just thinking about volume time.
< 1456444312 769142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Measuring things in volume time rather than clock time can make all sorts of things more well-behaved.
< 1456444316 727698 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: was it _that_ insulting
< 1456444343 5036 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what do you mean by a video game stat system, exactly?
< 1456444356 382038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you might say "my position is X, and by volume time T, I want to have position X+D"
< 1456444391 12802 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, the material scientist adds TGH (toughness), HRD (hardness), STR (strength), DUC (ductility), CRS (corrosion resistance), TMB (temperature-based behavior), WRS (wear resistance)
< 1456444395 445995 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That
< 1456444411 479905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, from time T to time T', you go from position X to position X'
< 1456444416 224367 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the "volume time" is essentially the number of share-trades that have happened so far?
< 1456444418 157073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So your "speed" -- called "participation rate" -- is (X'-X)/(T'-T)
< 1456444429 817615 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think we should spend the next hour making science/video game jokes about obscure traits characters could have
< 1456444436 910845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the interesting thing about this system is that time and position are measured in the same sort of unit.
< 1456444438 263184 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I like that idea.
< 1456444449 536843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It never makes sense to have a speed greater than 1. It doesn't matter how fast you trade.
< 1456444460 614047 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there is a concept in relativity known as "proper time", which is the time a particular object observes.
< 1456444461 48578 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: reminds me of Dwarf Fortress. It's a really really sophisticated simulation.
< 1456444464 965263 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: And, perhaps, loving what we come up with so much that we make a browser game out of it
< 1456444490 977028 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAD- radioactivity- how much ambient long-term damage you do to your opponents (comes at a HLTH cost)
< 1456444518 163166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway there does come up some thing in physics where time and position are measured using the same sort of unit, right?
< 1456444539 847817 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buckminsterfullerene nanostructures.
< 1456444540 528990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where in some sense it's nonsensical to talk about changing position faster than the speed 1?
< 1456444559 726672 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, I mean, you just assume that the speed of light is equal to unitless 1.
< 1456444581 556240 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is common to set the speed of light to 1, which is essentially that
< 1456444583 7016 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's still meaningful to talk about changing position faster than 1. It's just that nothing does that.
< 1456444595 234423 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STN - steinfulness. It determines your, uh...
< 1456444597 122334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but the idea that you can't change position faster than some speed, no matter how much you try, seems kind of odd given the usual notion of speed.
< 1456444603 912155 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people have a steinfulness of 0.
< 1456444606 4806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in this volume time context it makes perfect sense.
< 1456444610 373542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe physics is like that.
< 1456444626 718211 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a certain famous theoretical physicist, now deceased, who had a steinfulness of 1.
< 1456444645 491307 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Goldstein?
< 1456444645 649175 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not aware of anyone who has ever had a steinfulness of 2 or greater.
< 1456444653 344374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's "meaningful" to talk about going from position 0 to position 100 in volume time 50.
< 1456444667 727979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't get there by buying.
< 1456444697 831749 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr. Zweistein, i presume
< 1456444717 14283 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Also STN- Berenstain: Sensitivity to interuniversal travel
< 1456444723 704600 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, MND
< 1456444751 910684 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TDC - Tardicity. Determines how large the interior is compared to the exterior.
< 1456444760 453126 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1456444788 804995 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Wikipedia says you can use transfinite induction to define a function on the ordinal numbers like so.
< 1456444825 8942 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :z(a,b) is defined as the smallest ordinal number c such that c > a, c > b, and c is not the value of z for any smaller a, or for the same a with a smaller b.
< 1456444833 677580 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think that should be the Tardigrade hth
< 1456444856 156109 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I agree. th
< 1456444867 630195 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it's not obvious to me that that function is well-defined.
< 1456444917 625679 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :z(0,b) is simply the successor of b, and it's obvious that the successor function "misses enough" ordinal numbers.
< 1456444945 373231 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is: the collection of ordinal numbers which are not in the image of the successor function is isomorphic to the collection of all ordinal numbers.)
< 1456444950 656985 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: didn't we discuss this earlier
< 1456444961 661395 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe.
< 1456444965 225332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall it almost melted my brain
< 1456444972 787751 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that somehow, there were enough gaps
< 1456444995 752991 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. So, why are there always enough gaps?
< 1456445133 761057 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuzzy Bag Typing
< 1456445242 32286 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I'm starting to remember, I think.
< 1456445251 289233 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose you have some function f on the ordinal numbers such that for all x, f(x) > x.
< 1456445291 740053 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can start at any ordinal number and iterate f on it. This will give you an infinite increasing sequence of ordinal numbers. Then take the limit of that sequence.
< 1456445321 499297 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That number that you just got, that limit, can't be in the image of f.
< 1456445345 338765 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f needs to be increasing
< 1456445359 470681 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it?
< 1456445412 3352 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess it does.
< 1456445431 2200 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The infinite sequence that you get is increasing even if f is not increasing. But, uh...
< 1456445453 24519 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can take supremums of f(0)...f(x)
< 1456445465 957644 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My train of thought fell down a mine shaft.
< 1456445472 220655 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MTOTFDAMS)
< 1456445493 271850 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, welcome to the mine of brain liquification
< 1456445509 175862 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this makes z well-defined.
< 1456445528 227898 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it happens that the entirety of z has "enough gaps", too.
< 1456445551 229507 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why?
< 1456445581 913475 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRRAAAINS
< 1456445600 573349 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION saves his brain by not even trying

< 1456445612 902057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want a refreshing pooch pic to soothe your brain
< 1456445624 163317 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE
< 1456445676 529081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/K59pAb5.gifv
< 1456445762 955349 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456445781 206489 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adu
< 1456445785 425381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye!
< 1456445793 289894 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ?
< 1456445833 528008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/adu
< 1456445834 890310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset:   7004:4c654b530cd9 \ user:        HackBot \ date:        Thu Feb 25 04:20:01 2016 +0000 \ summary:      le/rn adu/Bye!
< 1456445858 214936 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what does that mean?
< 1456445864 379857 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a very pouchy pooch
< 1456445882 297242 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a pouch
< 1456445883 10922 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn adu/Do you know adu? Adu adu adu adu adu!
< 1456445885 267424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «adu»
< 1456445886 174570 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a pooch?
< 1456445901 57661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn pooch
< 1456445902 721807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "pooch" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1456445903 831029 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: see above gifv hth
< 1456445904 691757 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch
< 1456445906 702759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: informal terms for dogs [syn: {pooch}, {doggie}, {doggy},
< 1456445908 699166 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :         {barker}, {bow-wow}]
< 1456445910 688995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    v 1: round one's lips as if intending to kiss [syn: {pooch},
< 1456445912 686054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :         {pooch out}]
< 1456445931 105999 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, you mean a baggy dog
< 1456445937 198893 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: someone added a wisdom for you.  it wasn't very good, so i imprevod it hth
< 1456445944 152084 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I mean oerjan 
< 1456445949 259850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it previously meant "adu" as in "bye" hth
< 1456445950 390321 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks :)
< 1456445956 709404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in "adieu"
< 1456445973 556337 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm well aware of the french saying
< 1456445984 909549 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in fact, "adu" is short for "andydude"
< 1456445987 905760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aware of the French saying what?
< 1456446010 940023 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use "andydude" as my login to irc, but I registered "adu" and now I have no choice
< 1456446068 165921 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: you know you 
< 1456446078 66611 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'re allowed more than one nick here hth
< 1456446086 654446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: NONSENSE
< 1456446087 906603 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even group them
< 1456446101 949718 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like adu_sleeping
< 1456446160 536636 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or adu_zzz
< 1456446166 911678 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or adu_slumber
< 1456446172 876841 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or adu_work
< 1456446174 34592 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ♫ Si meg, hva betyr adjø... ♫
< 1456446197 823170 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, make a better adjective...
< 1456446217 841259 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that song
< 1456446258 827505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The pooch has pooches which contain smaller pooches.
< 1456446333 761602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Neverhood was so good
< 1456446336 954888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14xcsz43Kuw
< 1456446392 575968 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456446394 54109 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456446588 177343 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/adu
< 1456446589 203011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset:   7017:e40713f3412a \ tag:         tip \ user:        HackBot \ date:        Fri Feb 26 00:18:04 2016 +0000 \ summary:      le/rn adu/Do you know adu? Adu adu adu adu adu! \  \ changeset:   7004:4c654b530cd9 \ user:        HackBot \ date:        Thu Feb 25 04:20:01 2016 +0000 \ summary:      le/rn adu/Bye!
< 1456446603 741421 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes?
< 1456446617 683437 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I didn't say anything
< 1456446649 68645 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I was simply testing a hypothesis, which turned out to be true
< 1456446757 261599 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hypothesis was that it was cumulative, and it is
< 1456446887 475595 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456447154 769298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1456447284 983709 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: One data point is not enought to turn a hypothesis into a theory
< 1456447314 641460 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: tell that to my success story!
< 1456447348 797368 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Are you a young earth creationist?
< 1456447619 31946 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pokadots that will rip you to shreds given the chance <-- *polkadots hth
< 1456447670 590902 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No.
< 1456447682 814486 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1456447816 907820 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm going to pretend I know what you're talking about
< 1456447865 870738 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: You haven't heard of young earth creationists?
< 1456447877 898930 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I've heard of creationists
< 1456447879 486162 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: They're the guys who think the universe is 6000 years old, same as the earth
< 1456447892 637532 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Created by gaaaaaaaaaaaawd 6000 years ago
< 1456447895 433243 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are people who believe the universe is 6000 years old
< 1456447907 944688 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what "young earth" means in that context
< 1456447916 31597 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Creationists are broader than the young earth creationists
< 1456447922 347829 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no
< 1456447931 728552 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: There are two types- old earth and young earth
< 1456447940 2801 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: wut
< 1456447951 543223 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old earth at least try to mix some basic science- the things we know for a fact to be true- into their beliefs
< 1456447953 228512 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they explain older stuff?
< 1456447971 350583 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: God created everything to look older than it is
< 1456447972 176318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: "young earth creationists" are the subset of creationists who have a specific time in mind for the creation of the earth that's on a relatively small timescale, normally somewhere around 4000 BC
< 1456447981 22746 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: WhAuT?
< 1456447986 628472 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Young earthers throw science out the window
< 1456448003 830367 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I believe that the universe is older than anything in the universe
< 1456448009 982456 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: They think we can see stars >6000 light-years away because god created the universe with everything already here
< 1456448018 416857 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(everything = light)
< 1456448028 449900 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I also have a very strict definition of "universe" and "spacetime"
< 1456448054 342184 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Fair enough
< 1456448089 95503 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a "spacetime" is all that we will ever know: 3D space + time, but the "universe" is all that exists, and all this popsci mumbo jumbo about "paralell universes" is, in my dictionary, talking about "parallell" spacetimes, not universes
< 1456448105 902580 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny that wikipedia says "Fictional superhero" instead of just "superhero"
< 1456448128 373379 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I think you mean the multiverse hth
< 1456448131 137251 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my dictionary does not contain the word "multiverse", since obviously, it is a synonym for "universe"
< 1456448140 240391 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lol, I hate you for that
< 1456448171 189005 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Usually, the Universe only covers things we can get to without a particle accelerator from here to Alpha Centauri
< 1456448184 732235 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's called a Spacetime, sir
< 1456448230 645858 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, it's the universe
< 1456448253 930597 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, it's a spacetime, which most people inaccurately equate with the universe
< 1456448303 450133 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Universe, is by definition, all that exists, if multiple spacetimes exist, then they exist within The Universe, by definition
< 1456448310 966624 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just pure logic, it's not an opinion
< 1456448760 428163 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell  huh... but I thought I reverted something else <-- you tried to `revert a command that didn't actually change anything hth
< 1456448762 902415 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456448763 432206 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1456448769 210928 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas  huh... but I thought I reverted something else <-- you tried to `revert a command that didn't actually change anything hth
< 1456448770 894677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456448810 938626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's a long way back
< 1456448977 958706 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um it was during the recent `list mess
< 1456448989 217028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456448992 893944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a long time ago
< 1456449009 616708 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you an extremely young earth creationist
< 1456449052 938241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps i'm a veetan
< 1456449089 310356 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shachaf didn't deny it
< 1456449113 971788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not all that young anymore
< 1456449133 15381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm certainly an earth creationist
< 1456449138 868390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other sort of creationist would i be
< 1456449214 194754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, that moment when you're curious about what the `list is and yet don't want to check
< 1456449280 201574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: go for it
< 1456449284 25611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the worst that could happen?
< 1456449294 84351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd end up on a list
< 1456449488 997356 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Are there any things that won't make my brain heart with cardinality > 𝔠?
< 1456449490 407514 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1456449506 468285 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Do newer versions of neoletters have 𝔠?
< 1456450121 502653 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh
< 1456450130 722927 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My left arrow key seems to have stopped working
< 1456450267 83736 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456450484 461518 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make an unlambda derivative
< 1456450492 555481 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then write a fake O'reilly book about it
< 1456450498 37669 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not sure what to call it
< 1456450533 691532 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that sounds like a hashtag
< 1456450566 694613 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#thatmomentwhenyourecuriousaboutwhatthelistisandyetdontwanttocheck
< 1456450759 120452 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If call/cc is GOTO, what's COMEFROM?
< 1456450790 872351 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Do you know?
< 1456450819 496871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :call/cc isn't GOTO
< 1456450863 233875 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's the functional equivalent, according to wikipedia
< 1456450972 183174 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you mean try0catch?
< 1456450981 158702 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"try-catch"
< 1456450999 655655 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: For what? comefrom?
< 1456451012 477037 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or as the functional GOTO
< 1456451015 495253 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: call/cc is CAMEFROM, cc is GOTO
< 1456451026 139305 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah.
< 1456451034 653611 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or perhaps you mean (dynamic-wind)
< 1456451046 416057 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Oooh, what's that?
< 1456451054 274874 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's like try-catch
< 1456451076 571033 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it ensures that it's 3 arguments are all executed, in order, regardless of exceptions thrown
< 1456451116 695926 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dynamic-wind a b c) will execute c, even if a and b throw exceptions
< 1456451127 506515 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if the function you pass to a call/cc is another continuation?
< 1456451127 506566 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : My left arrow key seems to have stopped working <-- it's spreading!
< 1456451127 506612 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or call a "cc" from somewhere else
< 1456451148 392574 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: then the world starts to explode
< 1456451164 736153 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: actually, then you're just returning an address
< 1456451164 894215 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: But then you call a continuation and it stops exploding
< 1456451179 399692 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((call/cc call/cc) (call/cc call/cc)) is when the world explodes
< 1456451192 822690 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right
< 1456451260 823322 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: In esolisp, should I include call/em instead of call/cc as primitives?
< 1456451270 244584 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456451300 95116 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my personal opinion is that all you need is call/ec, which is like call/cc, but the continuation cannot escape the lexical scope of call/ec
< 1456451315 28503 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: And what does ec stand for?
< 1456451341 704464 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/cont.html#%28def._%28%28lib._racket%2Fprivate%2Fletstx-scheme..rkt%29._call%2Fec%29%29
< 1456451352 592975 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"escape-continuation"
< 1456451393 388839 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: scratch that, "dynamic extent", not "lexical scope"
< 1456451406 308870 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lexical scope/dynamic extent/
< 1456451419 85623 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: You're much smarter than me. Can you help me with #esoteric lisp?
< 1456451431 944312 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Passively, if you prefer
< 1456451434 311775 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: as if lisp isn't esoteric enough ;)
< 1456451450 347160 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: That's the tagline ;)
< 1456451454 12583 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not smart, I just read a lot
< 1456451505 787355 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: That works too
< 1456451507 639782 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, I once deployed an update to every server with an extra comma, that caused all of our servers to crash, repeatedly
< 1456451531 209119 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I deleted the comma about 4 hours later
< 1456451549 711440 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, of course, made me feel like an idiot
< 1456451564 957072 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates commas

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< 1456451790 746645 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Is there something I could do for CF in esolisp that would be completely unexpected?
< 1456451801 820606 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is CF?
< 1456451832 943715 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody expects the Spanish initialization!
< 1456451848 278121 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in Python?
< 1456451855 460822 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp?
< 1456451864 789169 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Control Flow
< 1456451867 729418 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456451873 194713 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Esolisp, probably implemented in python
< 1456451900 890755 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: force all control flow to be in the form of unevaluated associated lists
< 1456451915 193118 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafuq?
< 1456451925 544711 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: basically switch-case
< 1456451935 461881 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1456451942 69253 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I want something functional xD
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< 1456451962 28635 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a world, in which if is deprecated, else is a thing of the past, your only hope, is switch-case
< 1456451968 175282 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Are there any completely strange GOTO-like constructs I could functionalize?
< 1456451973 220412 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just a jump, something different
< 1456451983 330660 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could go way back
< 1456451986 907803 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: way way back
< 1456451992 466104 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listening
< 1456451993 814116 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like now scheme is at R7RS
< 1456452005 267255 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in R1RS there was this thing called tagbody
< 1456452009 609090 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was kind of like goto
< 1456452013 305399 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so f*cked up
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< 1456452064 693191 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles it

< 1456452067 887875 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYES
< 1456452068 759381 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456452085 978313 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Not only is it weird and confusing with an IMproper implementation
< 1456452098 861076 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm also reacting to plain-font code
< 1456452140 866301 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456452142 846190 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If call/cc is functional GOTO, what's functional IF?
< 1456452155 793147 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: arc if is probably the most obscure
< 1456452157 306068 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the construct named IF necessarily- the one that evaluates one of its arguments based on another
< 1456452162 209788 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp and schem use 3-argument if
< 1456452189 248680 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm going for what you get if you use call/cc like JMP in compiled code; what does IF look like then?
< 1456452190 780561 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arc if is equivalent to lisp and scheme (cond), so (if a b c d e) actually means (if a b (if c d e))
< 1456452205 845576 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat
< 1456452208 956106 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya
< 1456452222 350190 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So conditional call/cc
< 1456452227 917365 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, just if
< 1456452237 174093 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the classic if-elseif-else
< 1456452239 103987 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, I'm talking about conditional call/cc
< 1456452251 801394 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: conditional on what?
< 1456452255 981485 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(call-with-current-continuation-if- cond func else)
< 1456452259 421436 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Various
< 1456452272 56173 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Dynamic-Wind.html
< 1456452274 387916 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Basically, it's the functional equivalent of low-level JMP
< 1456452305 293537 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: And I'm wondering what happens if we exactly transcribe the implementation of IF-THEN to JMPs into functional programming
< 1456452311 998982 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you get what I'm trying to say?
< 1456452313 697324 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh, you want delimited-continuations
< 1456452318 554774 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Is that it?
< 1456452333 543432 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/prompt.html
< 1456452351 70788 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prompt is like "global = address"
< 1456452359 953839 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort is like "address = global"
< 1456452429 428397 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm not sure you understand, but odds are it's me who isn't understanding
< 1456452450 349454 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think one of the issues with goto's in scheme is that all previous attempts involve going where you've gone before
< 1456452479 808957 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to jump to a place *after* everything you've done, then you probably just need to invent a name for it
< 1456452489 476995 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah, yes, that
< 1456452499 155358 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and define it as "current_address = given_address"
< 1456452535 48348 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What I'm trying to say is this
< 1456452545 210887 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: You know how call/cc is sort of like a JMP?
< 1456452618 626520 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456452648 468199 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to CALL, which manipulates the stack
< 1456452691 684108 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: OK, and you know how if-then in imperative languages is implementable in terms of JMP
< 1456452701 657305 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456452707 261875 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, conditional JMP
< 1456452731 170443 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What happens if you implement if-then the same way, but in terms of conditional call/cc (and functionalizing everything)?
< 1456452744 807659 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Is it just (if x y z), or does it make something new?
< 1456452767 407675 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(call/cc (lambda (return) (if x (return y) (return z))))
< 1456452814 289790 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: So it's exactly the same then?
< 1456452815 297463 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456452817 711558 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there are more possibilities, like you can return y in places that are not technically tail-calls
< 1456452984 935208 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1456452985 490164 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like without call/cc, then (begin a b c d e ... z) would always return z
< 1456452986 733193 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: JMP:CJMP::call/cc:???
< 1456452986 891066 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with call/cc, then (call/cc ... (begin a b c (return y) ... z)) would return y instead of z, even though z is a tail call
< 1456453109 629783 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]:  so really call/cc should be called convert-return-into-a-function
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< 1456454203 465525 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really love the breathiness of finnish glottals
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< 1456455370 229514 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be language-independent languages
< 1456455391 458314 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err i guess that was meaningless
< 1456455427 346440 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean a programming language which is independent of natural language
< 1456455536 201591 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the keywords like print etc would be eliminated in favor of symbols
< 1456455546 902952 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so you end up with emojis?
< 1456455552 71840 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah
< 1456455559 332626 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work
< 1456455651 562350 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :techically bf is an example
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< 1456456868 499055 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llvcwqmyxekfewsk PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: APL/J/K seem to share that philosophy.
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< 1456460513 405871 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so
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< 1456461867 232182 :newguy_!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja NICK :Elro
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< 1456463024 22402 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Befunge almost counts, except for the p and g commands.
< 1456463259 159723 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: AppleScript uses numbers as symbols internally, which are displayed as translatable text
< 1456463259 772215 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a plane kinda like the Saab Gripen in KSP
< 1456463363 499674 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose if you have translations for every keyword it could work, but ideally you would make it so that anyone can just read code written by someone who speaks a different language
< 1456463387 960957 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you need to deter identifiers then? it would be very hard.
< 1456463403 897154 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will surely end up as an esolang
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< 1456467389 476526 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda `c``sii interests me now
< 1456467406 181344 :Guest16721!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de NICK :atslash
< 1456467668 887323 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ```sii`c``sii creates an infinite loop...
< 1456467671 310376 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda is fun!
< 1456468181 455164 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should ruin it by introducing objects!
< 1456471093 52053 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD
< 1456471100 218693 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FIRST HIGH-LEVEL LANGUAGE WAS 2D
< 1456471107 247755 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it?
< 1456471123 154959 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankalkül
< 1456471145 632815 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Unfortunately, the one code examples is in the 1990s revision, which was designed to be implemented
< 1456471165 773846 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't believe they changed such a major feature and still called it Plankalkül
< 1456471819 304874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e bin/revert
< 1456471831 458286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal division by zero at -e line 1.
< 1456471854 361187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's not really surprising, since the first form of APL was 2D too (as in, using arrows for gotos or something.
< 1456471857 363602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
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< 1456472948 746234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The talk page mentions a few other things too
< 1456472991 666099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently the only "word" built-in is FIN which means the program is finished if 1 is assigned to FIN)
< 1456473059 41057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also mention the programming language that has only control structure is a for loop
< 1456473285 787743 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which kind of for loop?
< 1456473346 560435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fortran DO loop?
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< 1456474704 829327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, great QC comic. Jeph does these sorts of montages great.
< 1456474720 159087 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did them multiple times.
< 1456475089 383024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? The second Conspiracy set (announced a few weeks ago but more details given yesterday) will be focused on multiplayer games after a draft with cards affecting draft?
< 1456475320 66101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that also true of the first Conspiracy set?
< 1456475327 925971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there'd be a second one.
< 1456475421 165787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the draft part is true, but as far as I know, the multiplayer isn't. maybe I just didn't pay much attention.
< 1456475430 832442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and the second one isn't released yet.
< 1456475433 732941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conspiracy was designed for multiplayer games.
< 1456475440 762559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had all those voting cards.
< 1456475441 668752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, ok.
< 1456475457 240406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case I just didn't pay attention to that set.
< 1456475477 858487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://magiccards.info/query?q=o:%22Will+of+the+council%22
< 1456475487 550475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those cards make much more sense with more than two players.
< 1456475512 389041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
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< 1456479849 131917 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/02/25-1/sleeping-pokmon-kabigonsnorlax-becomes-15m-size-cushion   *_*
< 1456480074 985616 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme that gimme that gimme gimme
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< 1456483125 879741 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hat
< 1456483135 656525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hatee-hatee-hatee-hooo
< 1456483151 824936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? high hat
< 1456483153 303025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :high hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456483154 832213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? black hat
< 1456483157 496029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :black hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456483159 139839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? white hat
< 1456483161 472043 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :white hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456483164 802855 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? top hat
< 1456483166 11972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456483186 167475 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi hat
< 1456483187 401382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456483187 643857 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hihat
< 1456483188 478447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hihat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456483189 295009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi-hat
< 1456483190 178514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi-hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1456491115 574344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? infinite
< 1456491121 330592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? meta
< 1456491132 869728 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456491133 28407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1456493188 106079 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rint
< 1456493189 373713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lrint
< 1456493191 274562 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trunc
< 1456493192 964199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrint? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456493193 122562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rint? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456493193 573838 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trunc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456493194 694374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? llrint
< 1456493195 569981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :llrint? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456493582 306425 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing
< 1456493670 926641 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying names of arithmetic functions for the wisdom database
< 1456493676 771141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm no wiser from what it returns
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< 1456496911 442705 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ns ghost ais523
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< 1456496924 797032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing I don't enter my password for ghosting…
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< 1456497866 680583 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: truly
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< 1456498317 442472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? now you see
< 1456498325 514056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you see? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456498353 363818 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I see now?
< 1456498381 722378 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvsiously that was a ghost password.
< 1456498454 852493 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets all but two pairs in today's xkcd, and guesses the remaining...

< 1456498490 805236 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's always http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
< 1456498499 136176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? It's 'cause you're dumb
< 1456498502 707357 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1456498503 575458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 'cause you're dumb? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456498517 474935 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there's only one i cannot even recall seeing before
< 1456498521 662376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? explainxkcd
< 1456498522 823970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :explainxkcd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456498529 338697 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one with jay and the other guy
< 1456498635 682544 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i think i'll have to go there for the last name in the hovertext
< 1456498762 324237 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem to have paired with Hall
< 1456498925 177127 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the streak of regular what-if updates seems to have caught a snag
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< 1456506258 491586 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm worried compiling boost is going to blow up my computer :|
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< 1456511355 837415 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the λ-calcular definition of the S combinator using the classic notation?
< 1456511366 544451 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, one variable after the λ
< 1456511379 585264 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So K is λx.λy.x, not λxy.x
< 1456511433 846689 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you can figure out how to curry it
< 1456511490 40989 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: S = \x->\y->\z->(xz)yz
< 1456511502 358736 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :b_jonas
< 1456511520 354619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh, I thought you didn't need parentheses in that notation
< 1456511530 592570 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I know, but I wanted the parenthesis-free notation
< 1456511653 47404 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have thought it is x z (y z)
< 1456511728 641612 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llvcwqmyxekfewsk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin | grep explain
< 1456511736 533879 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456511756 644378 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I think both work, the latter is just the more common notation
< 1456511764 289546 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I'm an idiot
< 1456511790 105262 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no
< 1456511795 451713 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are different things
< 1456511817 110316 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :application is evaluated left to righr by definition
< 1456511835 863523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: oh right, I'm stupid
< 1456511836 628516 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. (xz)yz should be no different from xzyz
< 1456511847 511210 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, S = \x->\y->\z->xz(yz)
< 1456511848 350958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
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< 1456512535 811103 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most functional programming corresponds to Hilbert-Style Deduction Systems (many axioms, almost no deduction rules (usually just modus ponens)), correct?
< 1456512543 498917 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(xz)yz should be no different from xzyz"
< 1456512557 602967 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :which shoulds be no different than xy(z^2)
< 1456512645 101138 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: huh?
< 1456512654 286426 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is ^2?
< 1456512660 492220 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the second power
< 1456512685 832903 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are familiar with the fact that xzyz is no multiplication?
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< 1456513126 622518 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: So was I right about functional programming and Hilbert-style deduction?
< 1456513395 746053 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow
< 1456513412 148699 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next year I might have a piece of paper all official and everything saying I know functional programming
< 1456513429 483313 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so?
< 1456513443 336845 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should start lying about it now. Get a jump on the job market
< 1456513456 813055 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: well, I'm in my third year of a four year degree
< 1456513459 579450 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, most functional programming is based on natural deduction
< 1456513463 482551 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's a jump I can utilize
< 1456513465 304645 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL is the hilbert one
< 1456513472 42523 :jaboja!~jaboja@aeja127.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456513669 430746 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you base a functional programming language on a deduction rule other than modus ponens?
< 1456513723 600645 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never understood why you actually have different rules that basically do exactly the same if you transform your input
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< 1456513778 91840 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, how is p -> q & p => q another rule than p | q & -p => q
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< 1456513786 668407 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do exactly the same thing
< 1456513806 782750 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: For example, could I have a language that completely forgoes modus ponens and instead uses hypothetical syllogism?
< 1456513821 596508 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka function composition)
< 1456514063 724413 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That's what normalization is for
< 1456514073 540636 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456514557 506274 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functional language that corresponds to the Sequent Calculus?
< 1456514668 177389 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how would it work?
< 1456514702 438383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me (not having thought about this before) that modus ponens is inherently used when evaluating any sort of code
< 1456514703 460107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://esolangs.org/wiki/Gentzen for one way to make programming with a sequent calculus
< 1456514738 564042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It lacks the implication operator)
< 1456514836 92080 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
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< 1456516069 99748 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god
< 1456516080 85789 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ?
< 1456516080 280102 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make the Haskell of Sequent Calculi
< 1456516086 131915 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ^
< 1456516089 315511 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456516095 483742 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm reading the correspondence and have no clue what's going on
< 1456516113 173257 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :um?
< 1456516150 671888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: apparently zzo already designed a language like that
< 1456516155 406406 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh, great
< 1456516159 658436 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm making one too
< 1456516164 616146 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : See http://esolangs.org/wiki/Gentzen for one way to make programming with a sequent calculus
< 1456516164 770686 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : (It lacks the implication operator)
< 1456516164 770757 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm
< 1456516175 608681 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: might want to look at it
< 1456516181 143728 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am
< 1456516217 328304 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm too tired to make any sense of it. The dangers of lying in a comfortable sofa with a laptop
< 1456516297 876634 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Also I never ran into sequent calculus before, but to me it appears to be a rather complicated way of expressing things. Does it have additional power compared to classic logic? Or what is the big deal?
< 1456516305 958890 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456516401 576286 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Really, I'm trying to make a kit of languages based on the CHI
< 1456516445 65170 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1456516448 362124 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : hppavilion[1]: Also I never ran into sequent calculus before, but to me it appears to be a rather complicated way of expressing things. Does it have additional power compared to classic logic? Or what is the big deal?
< 1456516466 212255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: still interested in that question, once your internet stopped messing up for you
< 1456516485 153093 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's not my internet, it's school internet
< 1456516502 214908 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: And it's not the internet, it's me getting on and off my computer because I have to move to go do things
< 1456516512 306023 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: And I don't want people messing with my laptop while I'm gone
< 1456516521 491667 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: fair enough
< 1456516528 597893 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1456516532 323345 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have to get up
< 1456516536 88494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: anyway
< 1456516539 574555 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the question
< 1456516566 689082 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Which question in particular?
< 1456516580 377461 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left right after you said you were too tired
< 1456516602 700457 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]:   hppavilion[1]: Also I never ran into sequent calculus before, but to me it appears to be a rather complicated way of expressing things. Does it have additional power compared to classic logic? Or what is the big deal?
< 1456516605 945023 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1456516608 631289 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one
< 1456516615 926064 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm not sure; I don't understand it yet
< 1456516621 395413 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough
< 1456516621 661220 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think it's just different, and a bit eso
< 1456516638 858005 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: it just looks like a more complicated way to express implication
< 1456516642 264588 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's a generalization of natural deduction, which reminds me of Horn Clauses
< 1456516672 687725 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of (P and Q) -> (X or Y) you write P, Q |- X, Y
< 1456516679 75753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have I missed something
< 1456516681 737810 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's what I'm getting
< 1456516692 636366 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think the point is that you can ONLY do stuff in that format
< 1456516698 336767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1456516701 647646 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that format provides you with different ways of looking at things
< 1456516703 915514 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like cuts
< 1456516710 433927 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuts as in?
< 1456516715 538058 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Let me type it out
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< 1456516741 13526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, today's roborosewater card (Seating Tute) is hilarious
< 1456516754 689843 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have A, B |- q and C |- p, A, it looks like you can syllogize it into C, B |- q, p
< 1456516784 545734 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's a cut ^
< 1456516788 572428 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1456516791 34840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :um...
< 1456516795 734072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: no it isn't
< 1456516808 680058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you seem to have an extra element today
< 1456516818 697736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut is A |- B and B |- C syllogizing into A |- C
< 1456516843 315778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that mathematical logicians like doing is proving that it's admissible (i.e. any given cut, you can replicate using other rules of the logic)
< 1456516860 400922 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, good. The world makes sense again.
< 1456516893 486721 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm hppavilion[2] when hppavilion[1] is taken, usually when I get off the computer then get back on too soon
< 1456516937 751027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's an alternate nick
< 1456516947 954534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but making amusing comments about people's alternate nicks is an occasional #esoteric tradition
< 1456517001 679535 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : cut is A |- B and B |- C syllogizing into A |- C <-- isn't this just A->B, B->C giving you A->C. 
< 1456517014 82416 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :in classical implication ways of writing it
< 1456517035 24690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well treating |- as -> is a common "intuitive" way to think about mathematical logic
< 1456517049 455171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they aren't the same operator and if you want to use them the same way, you have to prove it
< 1456517056 572075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1456517076 181157 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1456517090 387872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't even of the same type
< 1456517114 26851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456517177 54307 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm attempting to make a language kit called ChiLan (or something) that demonstrates the Curry-Howard Isomorphism
< 1456517218 100379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, they aren't even of the same type. and the Gödel completeness theorem for first-order logic is one of the most interesting theorems of logic, both for the result itself and because of its two proofs.
< 1456517219 625785 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good event-driven model of computation?
< 1456517229 386369 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm, fair enough
< 1456517231 860408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: pi calculus
< 1456517233 763286 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is there a logic it corresponds to?
< 1456517240 551126 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, I'll look into that
< 1456517240 732615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: wait, where's your [1]?
< 1456517241 761458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, also pi calculus :-)
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< 1456517256 809801 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: are you hppavilion[1]'s Evil Twin?
< 1456517257 963503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456517262 235630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's my quit message?
< 1456517268 763719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for these random disconnects?
< 1456517270 332442 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Client Quit
< 1456517272 22783 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ()
< 1456517273 364916 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ais523 has quit (Client Quit)
< 1456517277 235699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah
< 1456517281 737340 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ais523 has quit ()
< 1456517284 963036 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Client Quit (which means your client sent an explicit QUIT
< 1456517292 264752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Konversation's just randomly deciding my network is down
< 1456517295 696572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with no evidence for this
< 1456517298 836029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quitting in response
< 1456517314 767472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your connection didn't live for long enough to send the quit message to us)
< 1456517336 280258 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it's sometimes the server. When an irc server randomly decides to quit you, it invents fake reasons for why he did so.
< 1456517349 543989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, I'm pretty sure it's the client
< 1456517362 655949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the messages it's printing
< 1456517368 860071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's possible too
< 1456517371 636101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1456517390 806133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:09] [Info] Disconnected from irc.freenode.net (port 6667).
< 1456517392 331103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:09] [Info] Network is down, will reconnect automatically when it is back up.
< 1456517407 494459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think for me, it's mostly the network, because I get similar disconnections to non-irc stuff sometimes
< 1456517413 223419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the "network is down" is normally based on the network up/down status from NetworkManager
< 1456517418 873400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the network connection from the machine that is
< 1456517424 204578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, why would you send a quit if the network is down?
< 1456517427 628635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't expect it to be received
< 1456517428 378548 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456517489 58386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the tcp socket can breaks in one direction, so the QUIT you send can get through even if what the server says can't get to you. eventually there's a timeout because of the one-directional break, but the QUIT still gets through.
< 1456517499 666462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I restarted my client in case it helped
< 1456517787 623813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wait.
< 1456517811 720615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Wizards have at least three different announcements for the second Conspiracy set, each giving a different name for the set?
< 1456517820 135928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf.
< 1456517831 916319 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not April's Fool yet
< 1456517862 51954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, M:tG set
< 1456517881 883145 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you understand the rho-calculus?
< 1456517889 521719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: no
< 1456517896 820564 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Damn
< 1456517908 344327 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was hoping to incorporate rho expressions into EsoLISP
< 1456517926 48689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: basically they had one announcement that they edited a couple of times, citing events in the plane on which Conspiracy takes place having overtaken them
< 1456517943 487042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first they announced it was about Brago, but then a few hours later they announced that Brago had been assassinated
< 1456517947 382564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they had to change the name of the set
< 1456517958 640532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456517964 323026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also they removed one card from it)
< 1456517973 845661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then today they went and added a card back in and renamed it again
< 1456517992 981471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, removed Brago?
< 1456517995 117 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is a #esoteric official LISP a decent idea?
< 1456518001 798462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: they didn't say which card was removed
< 1456518008 861899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: you'll never get #esoteric to agree on an official anything
< 1456518026 100448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I don't agree with restricting the language choices that the channel can use
< 1456518028 411002 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: A #esoteric pseudo-official LISP?
< 1456518030 306376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes one langauge is better than another
< 1456518036 114987 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's not a restriction
< 1456518051 711367 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's just as restricting as forget-me-nots being the Alaska state flower
< 1456518054 606725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you creating an esolisp or just a regular lisp specialized for implementing esolangs?
< 1456518060 719186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: oh I see
< 1456518060 873713 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no rule against actually using it
< 1456518067 622961 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*against not using them
< 1456518076 617298 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think the goal is to do both xD
< 1456518091 834782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Underlambda isn't a lisp :-P
< 1456518097 537361 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: A LISP designed for implementing esolangs in an eso way :P
< 1456518109 478925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, that's aiming for three goals: being an esolang, being easy to implement esolangs with, and being easy to implement in esolangs)
< 1456518112 613951 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, "new conspiracies that twist the rules against your foes"? how is that an interesting feature of the set? that's the point of one of the Golden Rule: M:tG cards often change the rules, and usually in a way that helps you against your foes.
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< 1456518129 178436 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And I want to incorporate rho expressions- rhoexp : lambdaexp :: rhocal : lambdacal
< 1456518133 255054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they put such meaningless marketing language in the annoucnement?
< 1456518152 981791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: all announcements seem to be like that
< 1456518181 464807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people who get annoyed by them aren't the audience that the announcement is aiming to reach
< 1456518208 481599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to read through the most recent GDS (sadly I don't have a link), one of the things they discussed was marketing taglines
< 1456518219 395116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456518227 109318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most recent one is the second one, right?
< 1456518329 213598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so
< 1456518402 820542 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember fake set names given, but most of them were for reprint sets with the announcements on April's Fools, with the exception of Mirrodin Pure in which case they were clear about how it can be fake from first place.
< 1456518418 282047 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You remember Mirrodin Pure, right? That was marketing for a future set done right.
< 1456518496 112598 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mirrodin pure
< 1456518499 228826 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? icfp
< 1456518502 87864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? icfp contest
< 1456518506 185568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp contest? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456518506 340609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456518506 340717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirrodin pure? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456518557 680813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that reminds me
< 1456518623 365033 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an esolang for which I should create an article on the wiki. Or at least I think it's an esolang.
< 1456518678 15702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a new language is created for the purpose of the designer wanting to create an implementation for a language, but with limits that make the language very restricted or hard to use, 
< 1456518696 432739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the goal isn't to make the language bad, but to make the implementation simple under some conditions,
< 1456518710 665184 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then would that count as an esolang, or is it instead a non-esolang for educational purposes?
< 1456518732 373968 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. eso- means "within"
< 1456518766 922837 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: brainfuck and FALSE are both in that category
< 1456518784 761750 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(both designed to have small compilers)
< 1456518785 84642 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah yes, and I think Mouse is too
< 1456518811 924109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although brainfuck is sort of a special case, because it's very early
< 1456518924 205257 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder if I have my implementation for this stuff. Although it's very simple-minded, so I might not actually want to publish it.
< 1456518987 265005 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it ages ago, and I'm not sure where it is. Probably only somewhere in my old backups.
< 1456519001 106825 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I found a doc-bug with it.)
< 1456519050 235566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, whatever, if someone wants, they can just write a new implementation. It's not hard.
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< 1456519315 527714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Mirrodin Pure backfired I think, there are /still/ people asking for the card list to be released
< 1456519335 960209 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : b_jonas: basically they had one announcement that they edited a couple of times, citing events in the plane on which Conspiracy takes place having overtaken them <-- okay that is a neat PR thingy
< 1456519406 635397 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: strange. I sort of remember some people writing that they thought Wizards has actually made two sets and were to decide on which one to release very late, but I don't understand where that came from, because it seemed clear enough from their communication that that's not the case.
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< 1456519452 757598 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: although I'm not surprised that people are confused _now_, because the Wizards webpage is horrible, it's hard to find information about old sets and other old stuff
< 1456519461 8583 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should make the website more informative
< 1456519480 880697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time they try to change the website they make it worse :-(
< 1456519485 545781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the prefix for lambdabot now again?
< 1456519491 473212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general consensus just seems to be that Wizards are terrible at computers
< 1456519492 648528 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that too, sure
< 1456519494 104436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: @ or ?, both work
< 1456519500 383730 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks
< 1456519511 36261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or > as an abbreviation for @run
< 1456519513 540833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, which is strange, because that's a problem they could fix by, you know, hiring people who are good at computers
< 1456519530 953763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding such people should probably be easier than finding people who are good at making games
< 1456519535 476952 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm it doesn't seem to respond in /msg? Pretty sure that used to work
< 1456519539 792923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it could be that they're don't think that would be value for money
< 1456519548 73010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe
< 1456519548 487667 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh there we go, it was just super slow
< 1456519588 259093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : @run 4  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1456519592 669470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you may have a runaway process
< 1456519615 9157 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no kidding
< 1456519621 302600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if I want to find listings of old theme decks (and other preconstructed decks), that's hard directly from their site, but the links to the listings are collected on en.Wikipedia (luckily the links to their articles don't usually break, I have to give that much to them)
< 1456519644 479359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but if I want to find the set FAQs (release notes) for old sets, I'm out of luck, I have totally no way of finding them
< 1456519645 404700 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolinguiratia: Frustration caused by trying to program or speak in a language that makes absolutely no sense, particularly one not meant to be used, particularly when you're clueless to the fact that you aren't supposed to use it
< 1456519656 140696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the links to the articles broke a while back and it took them like a week to fix them
< 1456519680 739220 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if I want to find older states of the Gatherer, I have to go to Yawgatog's site. I also have to go there if I want all the info from the Gatherer in a sane format.
< 1456519748 698886 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least they have now fixed Gatherer to show flip cards and split cards in a sane manner, which was a long-standing bug, only now there are double-faced cards too, and THEY aren't shown in a sane way.
< 1456519760 912692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know about level up cards, I haven't checked that.)
< 1456519794 110948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one small detail that really annoys me is that they don't have a complete list listing the official two or three letter codes for all old sets. 
< 1456519814 330181 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try to guess from various filenames on their websites, but it turns out that for old sets they're sometimes inconsistent.
< 1456519830 938268 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :en.wikipedia has a list, but I'm not sure it's always correct
< 1456519860 29764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards has at least made the http://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/products/card-set-archive page much saner than it used to be,
< 1456519889 175748 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now you can find a list of really ALL sets Wizards ever released (Astral isn't there, but that's not a product by Wizards, but I don't think anything else is missing),
< 1456519922 288938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but from that page and what it links to, you can't find the set faqs, the codenames, and other important information.
< 1456519943 72579 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's some things they've improved, but also some things they've never fixed.
< 1456520091 549903 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :On esowiki, is there a category for languages that are fully specified, in the sense that there's no undefined behavior in them that you could use for a future extension?
< 1456520176 552575 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as mod 256 BF with a tape infinite both left and right
< 1456520247 19161 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perhaps I could get people to like Esolisp by adding any good functions requested by channel members to either builtins, the stdlib, or (for large function groups), an external library
< 1456520265 5604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't think so
< 1456520277 210388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were some unauthorized categories created recently and nobody cared to do anything about it
< 1456520278 767857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the eso standards?
< 1456520282 867714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you /might/ be able to get away with it
< 1456520293 299704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: those were mostly arguments about how to standardize the standardization process
< 1456520307 219740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure we got around to standardizing any actual languages
< 1456520307 374325 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456520371 963329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I got away with it once, but I don't think I'll create one for this
< 1456520383 348954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably a bad idea to use a category for this in fact,
< 1456520399 236628 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?
< 1456520400 185417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it will often happen that a language has several variants, grouped in the same article, and only some are fully specified
< 1456520403 821871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like with Brainfuck
< 1456520429 561714 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :buildung a subpage?
< 1456520471 81454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, often there are just too many variants and we're lazy
< 1456520538 301775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, let me see what other categories I need then. I need a year, and [[Category:Finite state machine]] since the amount of memory is fixed and small.
< 1456520561 948602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, and I need [[Category:Implemented]]
< 1456520615 298885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, does [[Category:Non-textual]] count if the program is a binary file (machine code) rather than a text source?
< 1456520713 701440 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, why don't we have a separate Appendix: namespace on the wiki for entries that aren't describing a language, eg. [[David Morgan-Mar]]?
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< 1456520736 305103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we normally use non-textual for binary
< 1456520747 264735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because we have Category:Languages
< 1456520758 901557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's meant to be a site about esolanging, not necessarily a directory of esolangs
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< 1456520771 236782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[esoteric programming language]] should almost certainly be in mainspace
< 1456520773 940820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as should [[OISC]]
< 1456520775 512997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of course, but still, I think this is what mediawiki namespaces for
< 1456520793 759914 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least it's how *.wiktionary uses the namespaces
< 1456520796 920327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang's modelled quite heavily on wikipedia
< 1456520810 207842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it was originally started because of mass esolang deletions on wikipedia?)
< 1456520819 723390 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, whatever
< 1456520832 733402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just write the article now
< 1456520835 257210 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a short one at least.
< 1456521104 210 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write an article on COMPLEX
< 1456521656 356166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: gopher://gopher.metafilter.com/h/MetaTalk/Direct-your-gopher-client-to-gopher-gophermetafiltercom.html
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< 1456521770 988167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity I don't have my interpreter at hand, because that one was verified to work (at least mostly) and I could read it more easily than the docs
< 1456521793 418307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's really old
< 1456521984 686719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because one of the following protocols (gopher) isn't associated with any program or is not allowed in this context."
< 1456521993 960839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they removed the gopher client from Firefox? :-(
< 1456521999 693524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it used to work
< 1456522005 39571 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, firefox hadn't supported gopher for ages
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< 1456522217 243963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although the gopher client included with old versions of Firefox wasn't very good anyways.
< 1456522224 204905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are extensions to support it now
< 1456522405 789811 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know where the iterated prisoner?s dilemma was first mentioned / defined?
< 1456522439 205469 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prisoner's dilemma was defined by Tucker in 1950. Not sure about IPD.
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< 1456522735 252044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi impomatic_!
< 1456522750 626536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my feeling is that the iterated prisoner's dilemma was around for a while before people realised that it was different
< 1456522753 690733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gave it a name
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< 1456523884 945841 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there
< 1456523893 185164 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Viktor's amazing 4-bit processor14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46460 5* 03B jonas 5* (+5144) 10Created page with "'''Viktor's amazing 4-bit processor''' is an esoteric computer hardware designed and soldered by the physicist Viktor T. Toth in 1999.  The goal of the computer was for the cr..."
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< 1456524054 265515 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. T. Toth also created a simple low-level language with arithmetic syntax (sort of like B, the predecessor of C), but I think that one doesn't count as eso, because it was clearly created and used for a practical purpose
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< 1456524527 534167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some strange syntactic elements in it, like how there are no mandatory semicolons so the statements are separated in a strange way, sort of like lua; and how the dereference operator has a higher precedence than the function call operator; but I think these are only strange to use because we're so used to C.
< 1456524532 970915 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're definitely not eso.
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< 1456524702 778817 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's so much a one-pass compiler that it doesn't even ever patch addresses or values emitted earlier, so there's absolutely no way to refer to symbols defined later.
< 1456524711 741126 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which leads to some strange things.
< 1456524719 984525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But again, it's certainly not eso by intent.
< 1456524925 185479 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Viktor Toth also run an implementation of the original Essex MUD?
< 1456524936 961794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic_: he runs some mud, but I'm not sure what
< 1456524939 617699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it can therefore support streaming and may use less memory than otherwise
< 1456525018 85447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the webpage says the goal was to use little memory, but I think the actual reason is to make the implementation simple, since the computer he runs them on has a whole MEGABYTE of memory, and runs DOS, and that's more than enough to run a bigger compiler than this properly 
< 1456525063 118278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: since it writes the output to a DOS file, storing addresses it has to patch in RAM and later patching them with seek wouldn't be very hard
< 1456525069 567997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would still make it a one-pass compiler
< 1456525093 821462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but such thing could be made also which using stdout
< 1456525099 333988 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in the sense that the compiled output is ready to run, no need to link
< 1456525115 830946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: on DOS, that doesn't have any significance, because DOS doesn't have pipes
< 1456525127 245522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would you want to output the compiled program to a serial prot?
< 1456525183 672424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait
< 1456525191 906156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know the reason
< 1456525202 197907 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1456525227 561295 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't use all 1 megabytes of memory (or a large part of it), since the compiler is implemented in itself, which makes accessing segments difficult. thus, programs, including the compiler, generally only use linear addresses within one segments,
< 1456525249 576028 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he has a total of 64 kilobytes of data memory
< 1456525257 717185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even in 64 kilobytes, this wouldn't be too hard
< 1456525275 403625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :symbol backpatching would easily fit since he already has a symbol table
< 1456525286 420695 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for referring to symbols defined earlier
< 1456525748 570474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, who am I to criticize him? I never wrote a compiler similar to this.
< 1456525750 630386 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456525915 271519 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi Taneb
< 1456525922 411671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Phantom_Hoover
< 1456525952 333263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have room in the leeds slash york area for 16 people to sleep tomorrow night
< 1456525975 818672 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is very sudden, also no
< 1456525996 718586 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :This your submarine jousting or whatever?
< 1456526032 692431 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456526059 925030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out yorkshire isn't full of conveniently available couches like plymouth is
< 1456526066 181971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does submarine jousting compare to bf jousting?
< 1456526082 990045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :substantially different
< 1456526469 54497 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I've asked in the computer science in York channel but I wouldn't be to hopeful
< 1456526497 161003 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The response thus far has been, and I quote, "noy to the lot of you"
< 1456526590 985038 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: looking for early mentions of iterated (or repeated) Prisoner's Dilemma turns up a few from the late 50s but they all appear to be behind a paywall :-(
< 1456526653 888079 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ooh, I've got a "depends on your threshold for standards of living"
< 1456527476 891560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456527487 139713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we're committed to driving home by now anyway
< 1456527536 586228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the offer though, ofc. you can still show up for an extremely impromptu and distracted #esoteric meetup
< 1456527690 936716 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're playing tomorrow?
< 1456527694 887577 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, I'm in Hexham
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< 1456527987 858052 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this jousting with real submarines? In the river?
< 1456528020 14304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's hitting a puck on the bottom of a pool with a little stick
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< 1456528204 208411 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys
< 1456528216 305861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that's probably for the best given that we're probably going to embarass ourselves totally
< 1456528326 833561 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tired
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< 1456528608 701710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Goto14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46461&oldid=43374 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+112) 10/* Structure */ Added an important note
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< 1456528660 436409 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest, I just put stub on everything to be safe...should I do that?
< 1456528853 142102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46462&oldid=44767 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-69) 10Oh my god, since when did I have GLaDOS and neurotoxin on my userpage?
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< 1456530097 113732 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, crazy idea
< 1456530136 850917 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language- called World Wide Web Calculus (or WCalc)- that basically is a formal mathematical system for web programming
< 1456530186 654880 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of amalgamating pi calculus, simply-typed lambda calculus, and some other things into a single, unified language that lets you use math as server-side programming
< 1456530212 113600 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With things like HTTP requests as primitive objects
< 1456530403 829849 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, completely declarative
< 1456530580 665589 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a language like HTML, but it programs stuff?
< 1456530622 165544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it has a  tag which describes what the LMTH page looks like (yeah, fancy backwards ffuts)
< 1456530874 379707 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, hai rdococ
< 1456530878 952419 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't seen you in a while
< 1456530885 749023 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not since my first few weeks on IRC
< 1456530887 976521 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1456531036 861840 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai yay
< 1456531065 560414 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I'm making a demonstration HTTP server
< 1456531093 104005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should probably abbreviate he World Wide Web Calculus as W3C
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< 1456531390 845994 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: xD
< 1456531464 294894 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is an HTTP server that you never want to run, as it makes all your files accessible to everyone, written in wcalc: http://pastebin.com/gWFap23c
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< 1456531698 167264 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` hth
< 1456531707 114509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found
< 1456531712 330254 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh
< 1456531720 691525 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth
< 1456531722 339191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
< 1456531744 976921 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is that past tense definition
< 1456531746 158550 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some game-theoretical aspects of parasitism and symbiosis" by Anatol Rapoport might be the earliest reference to the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma. I just need to find a copy that doesn't cost me �30 to read!
< 1456531867 548684 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: lol at your url
< 1456531876 762295 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Hah!
< 1456531882 925783 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Just noticed that!
< 1456531891 12993 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1456531901 621810 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456531904 679455 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need an original idea
< 1456531913 13677 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Yeah, pretty much
< 1456531935 106356 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I still think practical esolangs are an interesting concept. Web Calculus is one of those.
< 1456531945 535960 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs could be defined as a set of computer instructions, or as a problem and its solution...
< 1456531988 162016 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an automaton system...
< 1456532103 599727 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like bullying automata
< 1456532109 676142 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456532152 926725 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullying automata
< 1456532200 148540 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are great puzzles!
< 1456532215 339163 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should invent one and make an android app
< 1456532225 989540 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a program was a meta-thing
< 1456532236 741208 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. a word processor would be a meta-document or something
< 1456532242 930030 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a paint program would be a meta-painting
< 1456532272 717757 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this idea where you would be able to make your own file format and a program to edit them
< 1456532417 239431 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456533465 289359 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Perhaps you should design a language that takes advantage of the full features of word processors
< 1456533480 590664 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, not just bold and italics and underline, but EVERYTHIN
< 1456533481 433464 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :G
< 1456533485 352141 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does it in a logical way
< 1456533555 294468 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456533740 140589 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456534031 568099 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of things are even in a word processor?
< 1456534075 558111 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Font size, color, underline, italic, strikethrough, headers...
< 1456534086 619194 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I suppose better would be to allow HTML-based formatting
< 1456534094 293764 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456534356 576030 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about...
< 1456534361 550787 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inside Out, the programming language
< 1456534452 311414 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so programs would be memories
< 1456534461 481764 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs would be series of memories
< 1456534468 49850 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy memory, sad memory, angry memory
< 1456534550 632490 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456534723 113392 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if
< 1456534765 966838 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456534834 195512 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I just made a tool to industrialize making FORTH-like languages
< 1456534841 64624 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a method-oriented language
< 1456534862 878215 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Listening
< 1456534914 511894 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in object-oriented programs, objects can send messages
< 1456534940 472987 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a message-oriented program would involve messages sending objects?
< 1456535013 701978 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Oh god. This tool is SO BORING TO USE. xD.
< 1456535044 236277 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It literally just takes a length and generates all possible strings of symbols up to that length
< 1456535053 746946 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then has you assign meaning to those symbols at random
< 1456535251 308362 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Perhaps I should make this language web accessible and allow people to participate?
< 1456535362 124017 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh
< 1456535370 382360 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Yeah, I agree
< 1456535472 503029 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am bored
< 1456535495 103604 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk
< 1456535512 64774 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: How about a nice refreshing session of arbitrary symbol naming? xD
< 1456535548 652363 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456535930 68188 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? icfp
< 1456535938 539461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456535952 658016 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have industrialized FORTH-like language documentation production
< 1456536036 995846 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't produce very good languages, but it's basically just a way to make stupid esolangs on the fly
< 1456536085 498052 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1456536119 364353 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn icfp/I see functorial people.
< 1456536128 647666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «icfp»
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< 1456536991 265803 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yep that's exactly what that means
< 1456537394 923285 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so.
< 1456537425 654506 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Hi
< 1456537550 533759 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? WWW
< 1456537552 73687 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWW? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456537570 622721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[2]
< 1456537596 27748 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn WWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to.
< 1456537599 605361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'www': WWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to.
< 1456537616 925226 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for some American English speakers.
< 1456537632 177732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added "properly" for a reason hth
< 1456537635 410762 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dubyadubyadubya" is a bit faster than "world wide web".
< 1456537652 385690 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...still skeptical, actually
< 1456537844 228957 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456537855 466365 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in german, it's way shorter
< 1456537870 215930 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know.
< 1456537880 990048 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w is the only letter in the english alphabet with a multisyllabic name
< 1456537913 525158 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose calling it 'dub'
< 1456537961 269436 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the new music genre wstep?
< 1456537985 923027 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1456538065 141997 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456538111 732157 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't help that "W" was typically represented using "UU" for quite a while...
< 1456538114 2226 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they can call that music, then they can call w dub
< 1456538153 236697 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456538186 292032 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall the old 5 volume encyclopedia we had alphabetized w as v
< 1456538252 696253 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, my dad still has it afair)
< 1456538416 970498 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456538580 721999 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd prononuce www in english as vvv because I'm used to doing that in swedish
< 1456538628 428299 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid if you do that people will think you're talking about VVVVVV
< 1456538645 797829 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::<
< 1456538879 286714 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://static.bokelskere.no/cc9a45bdd11fb8130a5b1e5d46b8531035f49655c4d4852b3c7eabd1.jpeg
< 1456539042 195408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1456539321 456318 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456539446 368066 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i right in thinking that in German Volkswagen is pronounced wolksvagen/ 
< 1456539449 252606 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1456539493 966199 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456539561 819278 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I pronounce www as "wuuuh"
< 1456539745 48266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1456539801 534839 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: more like folks-vagen i'd say
< 1456540026 470851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456540416 423892 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh. some asshole was spamming lambdabot with @karma requests, saturating its output queue...
< 1456540509 165221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: once more...
< 1456540821 532568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456541220 29214 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away*
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< 1456541384 250764 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: afaict german doesn't really have the english w sound except maybe as part of the diphthong "au"
< 1456541443 428251 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's some room for improvement on lambdabot's side here, needs a bit of thought though)
< 1456541536 230923 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fundamentally though, the number of messages that lambdabot receives is not bounded, while the number of messages it can send is; it's just not popular enough for that to be a problem under normal circumstances so far
< 1456541735 200740 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1456541802 932404 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the same is true of norwegian, with the diphthong spelled the same way.)
< 1456541875 548043 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456541891 144599 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say ittrue for german at least.
< 1456541912 69360 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-171.static.wiline.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456541914 763966 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... *shoots whoever put ' next to return*
< 1456541927 973969 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ittrue/it's true/
< 1456541953 220307 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good for em, obviously
< 1456542726 577206 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You Don't Know JS", I can 1-up that with "You Don't Know Malbolge".
< 1456542752 179673 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'd be correct for any sane human being.
< 1456542800 822770 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful in japan hth
< 1456542932 792940 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell do you turn a plane at high altitude and speed?!
< 1456542959 186235 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't turn worth a damn
< 1456542992 480538 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or slow down
< 1456543004 941567 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, apparently, descend
< 1456543008 759247 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaa
< 1456543041 322965 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456543094 599177 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rrgh revert
< 1456543143 30274 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
< 1456543266 868303 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you learn that in "how to fly a plane" class
< 1456543488 6969 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I added even more flaps
< 1456543497 240401 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully now I'll be able to turn
< 1456543796 559715 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( are you building a flappy bird... )
< 1456544091 81628 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is like a giant delta wing plane
< 1456544152 767413 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456544213 588595 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also added some thrusters to turn even if we accidentally into space
< 1456544419 272265 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you add wheels and a ship propeller as well?
< 1456544563 862028 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has wheels for landing
< 1456544601 749799 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thrusters work to turn at ultra high altitude too
< 1456544727 928041 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is that in ksp, it's ridiculously easy to accidentally go into suborbital spaceflight
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< 1456545324 247670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:The chan-esoteric stack14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46463 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+179) 10Created page with "I have made a few different Z-Machine implementations (ZORKMID, JSZM, Famizork). Which do you mean? --~~~~"
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< 1456546688 681210 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just finished a haskell implementation of Goto.
< 1456546855 680712 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: You are a bad human being
< 1456546956 777172 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goto the programing language?
< 1456546969 456454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the language construct?
< 1456546986 808794 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: This language (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Goto).
< 1456546990 708877 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a monad, but a miserable pile of gotos?
< 1456547046 755388 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think you have a monad confused with a current continuation.
< 1456547050 692093 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it is, foremost, an abstraction.
< 1456547060 208309 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJkWS4t4l0k
< 1456547087 577493 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235, well, monads basically use delimited continuations. Which I guess is not the goto-like continuation, to be fair
< 1456547109 889094 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: For example, the identity monads has nothing like goto at all ... it just adds syntactic weight to pure computations.
< 1456547149 212039 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How is the list monad like a delimited continuation?
< 1456547166 661007 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>>=)
< 1456547167 858788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b
< 1456547188 633450 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Sgeo views the second argument of bind as a continuation... but that really has nothing to do with monads
< 1456547222 966481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t join
< 1456547223 915580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => m (m a) -> m a
< 1456547226 55750 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ The first part of what int-e said
< 1456547226 287682 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return
< 1456547227 303154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => a -> m a
< 1456547231 975750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap
< 1456547233 28123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
< 1456547246 737450 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :these three operations make a monad
< 1456547271 365768 :Thassa!~Kiora@94103ed2cb81.click-network.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a monad?
< 1456547271 582592 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a syntax for delimited continuations, you have syntax sugar for any monad
< 1456547272 301699 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But (>>=) is convenient for actual programming.
< 1456547295 272479 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/urso/embeddedmonads
< 1456547457 766115 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that more of an Applicative?
< 1456547479 384222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (,) <$> [1,2,3] <*> "abc"
< 1456547481 148498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(1,'a'),(1,'b'),(1,'c'),(2,'a'),(2,'b'),(2,'c'),(3,'a'),(3,'b'),(3,'c')]
< 1456547486 677167 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456547506 569994 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, you should be able to do .value.value, which is akin to join
< 1456547522 468393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1456547534 114088 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't exactly have an easy way to test it though
< 1456547535 854669 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi int-e 
< 1456547539 994702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that looks nasty to me
< 1456547577 196128 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join [[1,2,3],[4,5]] -- just do something like that?
< 1456547578 496306 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5]
< 1456547633 62918 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.value pretends to have the type (Monad m) => m a -> a, within the run
< 1456547649 71049 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like <- in Haskell do notation pretends to be (Monad m) => m a -> a
< 1456547692 711826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But because of Scala's support for delimited continuations, you don't lose flow control constructs
< 1456547705 600401 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, but <- is builtin syntax, and there's a formal translation...
< 1456547721 967692 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs

< 1456547750 539588 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :embeddedmonads abstracts out builtin syntax for delimited continuations
< 1456547760 416433 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, have you read the mother of all monads post?
< 1456547788 894000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.sigfpe.com/2008/12/mother-of-all-monads.html
< 1456547790 566977 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have.. something about Cont.
< 1456547951 203590 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:345e:bfc6:621b:d773 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456547953 257710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad can be consider related to a generalization of a list comprehension, the monad operation can easily be defined for the lists and then you can see how it can also be use with other monads such as IO monad.
< 1456548079 56375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also made up generator monads in JavaScript
< 1456550208 661577 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :generator monads = those monads whose bind only calls the continuation at most once, and therefore have a convenient syntax in languages with native generator support?
< 1456550220 735637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. Maybe but not List)
< 1456550245 716858 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe as in a monad for generators?
< 1456550410 863634 :Thassa!~Kiora@94103ed2cb81.click-network.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456550606 952831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a description of what I mean you can look at part of the document https://www.npmjs.com/package/genasync
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< 1456551624 11730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a bit confused about how conversion of picture formats works in Xlib.
< 1456552896 704516 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I thought xlib only understood buffers
< 1456553167 483056 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can I help you be less confused?
< 1456553221 629955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at it and hope I will do it properly, but I am still unsure if it is correct (even if it works)
< 1456553276 423129 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I used to do pixelformats in libsdl and OpenGL
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< 1456553535 200922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I can check is that it is working properly on my computer, not necessarily that it is correct
< 1456553722 471275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that the depth of the XImage structure has to match the real depth but exactly what else is allowed?
< 1456553748 367519 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh like with the proto, or without hw accel?
< 1456553850 135757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean with Xlib
< 1456553917 509972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, he's not the evil twin. he's just an alternate nick.
< 1456554114 380988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "If the clip-mask is set to a pixmap, it must have depth one and have the same root as the GC, or a BadMatch error results." The instructions for XCreatePixmap says "The depth argument must be one of the depths supported by the screen of the specified drawable, or a BadValue error results." Is depth 1 always supported? (When I type "xdpyinfo" on my computer it says it is)
< 1456554170 966637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it allowed to make a XImage with depth 1 and in ZPixmap format and copy it to a Pixmap, and if so what restrictions does it have when doing so?
< 1456554266 549772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the answer of these questions?
< 1456554363 433362 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, more one-line burrito tutorials?
< 1456554366 121010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burrito
< 1456554368 361629 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? buritto
< 1456554370 815260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burritto
< 1456554374 498658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burito
< 1456554452 318984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456554452 477095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burritto? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456554452 477186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burito? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456554453 194561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burrito? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456554529 198490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn burritos/Burrito are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456554533 747676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «burritos»
< 1456554536 436886 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn burritos/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456554538 978663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «burritos»
< 1456554580 26777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn burrito/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456554582 137316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «burrito»
< 1456554585 596972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn burito/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456554588 461656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «burito»
< 1456554589 137939 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn buritto/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456554591 259233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «buritto»
< 1456554635 481737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ln -sf wisdom/burrito wisdom/{burritto,burito,buritto} wisdom/burritos
< 1456554636 154718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: target `wisdom/burritos' is not a directory
< 1456554643 552795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1456554670 634175 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do ln -sfv wisdom/burrito wisdom/$x; done
< 1456554673 207409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/burritto' -> `wisdom/burrito' \ `wisdom/burito' -> `wisdom/burrito' \ `wisdom/buritto' -> `wisdom/burrito' \ `wisdom/burritos' -> `wisdom/burrito'
< 1456554676 985031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burritto
< 1456554678 107443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burritto? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456554693 356702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? buritto
< 1456554694 520171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :buritto? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456554697 724764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burrito
< 1456554699 184270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456554702 49815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456554706 252445 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duj
< 1456554713 565187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do ln -sfv burrito wisdom/$x; done
< 1456554714 308325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `wisdom/burritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `wisdom/burito': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `wisdom/buritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `wisdom/burritos': Not a directory
< 1456554730 162003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1456554744 134202 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do ln -sfv burrito $x; done
< 1456554745 50679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `burritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `burito': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `buritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `burritos': Not a directory
< 1456554748 287516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1456554759 387570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you even mean?
< 1456554770 91450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do rm $x; ln -sv burrito $x; done
< 1456554772 438953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`burritto' -> `burrito' \ `burito' -> `burrito' \ `buritto' -> `burrito' \ `burritos' -> `burrito'
< 1456554781 345904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burritto
< 1456554782 405679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456554902 416037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what they say, but it make no sense to me. It has nothing to do with a burrito; it has to do with mathematics
< 1456555063 547518 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to get my moon-car back into orbit
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< 1456557407 682169 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1456557687 598129 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye
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< 1456561036 409997 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/135/   what's a good way to solve this?
< 1456561471 159202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google longest path graph
< 1456561471 998503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem
< 1456561545 851499 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it's in the moderate section so i thought there was a faster way with some constraint
< 1456561627 124189 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :the constraint is that there aren't too many words
< 1456561655 625130 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :35 words is way beyond what i can do in their 10s timeout
< 1456561663 464813 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay
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< 1456564861 953713 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.javafind.net/gate.jsp?q=/library/36/java6_full_apidocs/com/sun/java/swing/plaf/nimbus/InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonWindowNotFocusedState.html
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< 1456568846 382514 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that is one hell of a class name
< 1456568898 393105 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes me hope that eclipse and netbeans have really smart autocompletion
< 1456568925 784027 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1456569399 6693 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456571629 906835 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn NICK :lynn
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< 1456579833 537307 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccmvxwkxfzywjwfo NICK :Iagree
< 1456579836 838292 :Iagree!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccmvxwkxfzywjwfo NICK :l0de
< 1456581499 144471 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that is an auto-generated class name
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< 1456581540 392448 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be one name in the class to type manually
< 1456581547 699128 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba dum tss
< 1456581702 790305 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456585313 982070 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456585314 625977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271400Z 18010KT 30SM OVC040 M07/M12 A2993 RMK SC8 SLP140
< 1456585338 719443 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty short and sweet today. that only means it's going to get apocalyptic soon.
< 1456585345 332264 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1456585345 490056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 17h 17m 26s ago: shachaf needs a mapoling hth
< 1456585345 490162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 15h 41m 43s ago:  hppavilion[1]: as long as it features ¨ on egregious glyphs, and that multiocular O. <-- ¨ on multiocular O, check
< 1456585345 490205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 15h 34m 35s ago: MWꙮ̈Hꙮ̈Hꙮ̈Hꙮ̈
< 1456585391 790843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders which glyphs are egregious

< 1456585408 709642 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan what for? not that it's necessary for mapoling shachaf, but it's a nice to have >:D
< 1456585408 867442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456585427 993574 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan GHAAAAAAAAH! that is one evil laugh.
< 1456585428 151339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456585444 185019 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :his523. prominent, salient, and uncouth glyphs?
< 1456585853 964396 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456585897 818226 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-
< 1456585897 976020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 8m 9s ago: what for? not that it's necessary for mapoling shachaf, but it's a nice to have >:D
< 1456585897 976069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7m 49s ago: GHAAAAAAAAH! that is one evil laugh.
< 1456585938 555435 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it was a pun, which i've forgotten... let's see.
< 1456586077 229166 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2016-02-25#214426shachaf
< 1456586130 816581 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION groans

< 1456586146 534619 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles shachaf

< 1456586159 228161 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles shachaf some more, because it's good for one's health

< 1456587160 243011 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:345e:bfc6:621b:d773 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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< 1456587883 23895 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff wisdom/burrito{,s}
< 1456587904 821506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456587908 226970 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff wisdom/burrito{,s}
< 1456587911 407354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456587919 364928 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/burritos
< 1456587923 806773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456587944 426819 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas you don't need to have separate wisdom entries for plurals just adding -s hth
< 1456587944 623099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456588029 444757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1456588044 462950 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burrito
< 1456588046 496751 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
< 1456588095 378370 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, the plural of burrito is burriten.
< 1456588108 995112 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mexicans _may_ disagree.
< 1456588119 216500 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what language does such a thing)
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< 1456589063 99746 :impomatic!~impomatic@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrrr... I've been trying to check a few early Prisoner's Dilemma papers and every time I hit a paywall :-(
< 1456589161 422359 :impomatic!~impomatic@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks lambdabot for bringing a message from 1y 7m 17d 16h 24m 2s ago to my attention!
< 1456589264 924186 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never get why to @tell people that aren't even offline
< 1456589306 831709 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: lots of people idle in the channel without being physically there.
< 1456589314 480817 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so?
< 1456589337 39340 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i am online i can read the backlog or the logfile
< 1456589352 900436 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_you_ can.  i don't trust everyone's setup to be reasonable.
< 1456589379 168278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are weird
< 1456589429 992235 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sane!
< 1456589434 894964 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily
< 1456589438 483090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department.
< 1456589487 757967 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/^/"Only sane man" /' wisdom/boily
< 1456589490 6326 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
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< 1456605101 546662 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg
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< 1456605308 36310 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Ⓚ claims to be ⓚ when I Ctrl-F for it, but it doesn't actually show up for that codepoint
< 1456605313 583471 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for it on your font demo
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< 1456605618 775796 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, that's the lowercase cirled k, and my browser actually understood that. Neat
< 1456605631 206909 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also, any plans for the capital versions? :D
< 1456605723 211657 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ⓦⓗⓐⓣ　ⓒⓐⓟⓘⓣⓐⓛⓢ?
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< 1456605833 340367 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ⓉⒽⒺⓈⒺ ⓄⓃⒺⓈ
< 1456605866 278694 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ｉ　ｄｏｎ'ｔ　ｋｎｏｗ
< 1456605955 186160 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝖄𝖔𝖚'𝖗𝖊 𝖓𝖔𝖙 𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖓 𝖙𝖗𝖞𝖎𝖓𝖌.
< 1456605994 755885 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there's an argument to be made for the 🅝🅔🅖🅐🅣🅘🅥🅔 🅞🅝🅔🅢, too
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< 1456609051 397735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you determine the root and depth of a GC in Xlib?
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< 1456610079 963640 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456610106 450595 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull
< 1456610717 693056 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456610863 668013 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610863 904457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610883 858598 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456610886 884776 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456610901 994953 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610902 363803 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610902 521794 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610902 521885 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610902 679764 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610902 679841 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456610919 666961 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456610934 486460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456610945 538923 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456610969 828345 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456610988 275109 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456611005 964976 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611007 829131 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1456611013 967229 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611229 496169 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611384 141643 :impomatic_!~impomatic@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611412 201063 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded
< 1456611459 234724 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611470 866958 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611471 174823 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611473 143 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456611502 502934 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611502 770195 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611503 771 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611503 158759 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611503 976762 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611504 662135 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611504 935935 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611535 924456 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611536 401796 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456611550 341475 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611562 439528 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611638 199340 :Veltas!~quassel@static.117.33.251.148.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611698 258045 :impomatic!~impomatic@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 371 seconds
< 1456611708 407089 :impomatic_!~impomatic@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net NICK :impomatic
< 1456611732 474304 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611782 998583 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456611803 454711 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ektwtccafzhjntaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456611816 335504 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611831 310206 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611849 504268 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611850 954490 :kline_!~kline@nds/committee/kline JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611860 803240 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ljwahwopujcwolyk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611885 664508 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611886 578835 :kline!~kline@nds/committee/kline QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611886 737101 :nitrix-!~nitrix@104.236.108.9 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611886 973958 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611887 131842 :p34k!~p34k@141.70.81.144 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611887 579228 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611887 945002 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611888 138092 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@54.68.166.10 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611888 296169 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456611935 749138 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611964 479684 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-235.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611972 23108 :paul2520_!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456611975 978710 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1456611994 12936 :rodgort`!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456611994 445735 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612005 393678 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456612008 580093 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-235.rentec.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
< 1456612055 259446 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612085 198425 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612085 395465 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612086 282418 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612086 476278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612086 790045 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612086 948185 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612086 948266 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456612090 321400 :ski_!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612098 681136 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612098 839093 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llvcwqmyxekfewsk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612098 839174 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612103 414793 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host
< 1456612103 572808 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hbqjuixwrmmbdjup JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612139 472459 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612185 172602 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456612209 773872 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a freenode dos'ing going on
< 1456612220 424074 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612252 791320 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612272 717792 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456612291 369164 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612297 86888 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612380 510055 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612394 307441 :paul2520_!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456612422 476361 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612477 418030 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not looking healthy, there
< 1456612485 614678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612523 335845 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612528 669472 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612534 255077 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i didn't get on my normal server.  twice, although that was due to irc.freenode.net somehow deciding to resolve to the same server.)
< 1456612544 554291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, well
< 1456612549 996129 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'e still in my shard eh
< 1456612556 245716 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612628 315781 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612696 484968 :Guest94494!~nitrix@104.236.108.9 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612762 674771 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612831 429343 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hbqjuixwrmmbdjup QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456612831 932720 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llvcwqmyxekfewsk QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456612832 310905 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456612944 310336 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456612968 787880 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456612972 383816 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pycxudpxmjanrlwh QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456613028 841601 :kline_!~kline@nds/committee/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456613030 486697 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613046 348840 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456613077 281284 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613160 517201 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613252 965801 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugnldacvsdtlqwyx JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613258 104718 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: as is glogbot, though clog seems to live somewhere else or maybe have died entirely
< 1456613262 943623 :kline!~kline@nds/committee/kline JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613285 730281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613302 244659 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither of us is on the same server.
< 1456613340 160573 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all in europe, if that matters.
< 1456613365 876056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, your underwater hockey team are a pack of conniving bastards btw
< 1456613373 437668 :l0de!sid31830@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-magrnxuzudfoyvly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613424 132025 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah!
< 1456613431 818693 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett
< 1456613444 457652 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𝖄𝖔𝖚
< 1456613446 500854 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613463 182193 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm and now i cannot reach you.
< 1456613464 963695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1D584 MATHEMATICAL BOLD FRAKTUR CAPITAL Y] [U+1D594 MATHEMATICAL BOLD FRAKTUR SMALL O] [U+1D59A MATHEMATICAL BOLD FRAKTUR SMALL U]
< 1456613547 68849 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꙮ̈
< 1456613550 911483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS]
< 1456613557 616401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Where do I file a complain if I have reason to believe I've been overly mapoled?
< 1456613558 170538 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP PING reply from quintopia: 75.925 seconds
< 1456613561 337236 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking good
< 1456613583 694762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A complaint.
< 1456613592 575280 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain The floors are cold.
< 1456613597 335641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you.
< 1456613614 871143 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well first you should complain to boily.  if he disagrees you may choose to refer the matter to join #esoteric canadian committee.
< 1456613620 622840 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the joint
< 1456613639 906818 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how in the world does my brain manage to mistype that
< 1456613642 769195 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be ridiculous. Refer it to the joint #esoteric American committee.
< 1456613653 576615 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uvejhdyehkwmshiv JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613658 274097 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456613658 855125 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456613669 192667 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that doesn't work, refer it to the British, then the French, then the Russian, then the Chinese.
< 1456613672 523447 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Americans have no jurisdiction over mapoles, sheesh
< 1456613685 44601 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a matter of international concern.
< 1456613694 927220 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must be resolved in an international manner.
< 1456613705 424905 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613729 114900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear the new prime minister is going to form a joint committee.
< 1456613759 319572 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613786 684242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm here, but distracted
< 1456613799 183712 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is this a drug joke
< 1456613810 459206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth
< 1456613812 847139 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drugs are no joke.
< 1456613816 491870 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drug
< 1456613817 735306 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drug? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456613821 216857 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Drugs are no joke.
< 1456613821 384110 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@131.104.23.9 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456613825 358030 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'drug': Drugs are no joke.
< 1456613853 194521 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pevngcedgfuynidg QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds
< 1456613853 815180 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@131.104.23.9 NICK :Guest4233
< 1456613868 925180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hopefully i don't get mapoled for it
< 1456613884 760332 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Jokes are no drug.
< 1456613887 140652 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'joke': Jokes are no drug.
< 1456613936 144923 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/joke
< 1456613939 486292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia
< 1456614064 565894 :paul2520_!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456614068 693367 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456614133 336744 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456614204 102629 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fire
< 1456614206 847039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456614207 592714 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456614264 193500 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvrkdyraxphtnoqh JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456614281 193169 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn fire/Fire, fire, everywhere, nor any drop to drink.
< 1456614284 390147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «fire»
< 1456614301 12556 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1456614309 458374 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456614318 206245 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456614459 380620 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? delve
< 1456614461 353873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
< 1456614492 743729 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -n 200 wisdom/delve
< 1456614493 806104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
< 1456614512 575148 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456614513 50198 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wc wisdom/delve
< 1456614514 163934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​  1  63 367 wisdom/delve
< 1456614524 66996 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right.
< 1456614528 366779 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -c 200 wisdom/delve
< 1456614529 147723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve is determined.
< 1456614554 187870 :Veltas!~quassel@static.117.33.251.148.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1456614592 281621 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e 's/“/"/g' < wisdom/delve > wisdom/delve
< 1456614597 162938 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456614597 992679 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NB: I don't know how sed works.
< 1456614602 559161 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? delve
< 1456614603 958787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456614608 98476 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1456614618 441630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
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< 1456615063 705070 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456615215 303916 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? delve
< 1456615220 384956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
< 1456615249 340974 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you don't need to know sed, just shell, to know that piping both from and to a file doesn't work.
< 1456615373 823242 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/“|”/"/g' wisdom/delve #testing first
< 1456615379 321656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
< 1456615383 367774 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1456615392 15815 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/“\|”/"/g' wisdom/delve #testing first
< 1456615392 841481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. "Delve" means "For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana." The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve is dete
< 1456615400 479726 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/“\|”/"/g' wisdom/delve #testing first
< 1456615414 56656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
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< 1456615494 342884 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1456615602 855825 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb
< 1456615613 833395 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456615831 648149 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An internet calculus still seems like a good idea, somehow...
< 1456615837 355281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the proper way to convert a picture using XInitImage and XPutImage?
< 1456615860 184054 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456616370 994236 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456616627 627232 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
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< 1456623746 81412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1456626319 497023 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps a language where everything- not just data- is an object would be nice
< 1456626357 243119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have tried a few different things including using XGetImage and I cannot quite figure it out
< 1456626454 820785 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what do you mean by "object"?
< 1456626485 992299 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Like, an object. A thing with fields
< 1456626539 485990 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Imagine a world where IF-THEN is represented by an instance of the CONDITIONAL class
< 1456626547 752937 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm taking OO to the logical extreme, I think
< 1456626597 505510 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's not a good thing.
< 1456626669 373020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used XGetImage and all of the red_mask and green_mask and blue_mask in the resulting image are zero
< 1456626816 725671 :nzt!~nzt@unaffiliated/nzt QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456626864 797468 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Um?
< 1456627375 13327 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh, we have that
< 1456627381 449085 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called enterprise fizzbuzz
< 1456627439 878547 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Huh?
< 1456627440 55236 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Not on the wiki
< 1456627440 231677 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no language named that on the wiki
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< 1456627449 593338 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition
< 1456627547 991020 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: That's not a language, AFAICT
< 1456627588 773853 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456627594 722877 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not
< 1456627598 426328 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I was talking about a language
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< 1456627847 492178 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs a language when you can have a LanguageFactoryBean
< 1456627890 262027 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No.
< 1456628045 926491 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to be running prolog rather than OO hth
< 1456628173 945780 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
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< 1456628230 99853 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ?
< 1456628295 240979 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No." is a prolog response hth
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< 1456628510 134632 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had a time machine I'd go back and stop the guy that thought com.blahblah.relaventpart was a good idea.
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< 1456628633 247243 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, right, right
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< 1456629279 390166 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: is that actually a newgroup?
< 1456629313 211837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1391/ is awesome
< 1456629375 333377 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Not to my knowledge. I just meant it as an example.
< 1456629394 650913 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phew*
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< 1456629555 665077 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to start naming all my groups com.lambda_1123581321345589_thisisgettinghardtoread
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< 1456630057 581868 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: why not go back in time and kill someone responsible for something relevant?
< 1456630197 749321 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: As a programmer, that's very relavent to me.
< 1456630198 23040 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456630235 431064 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsgroups are not relevant any more
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< 1456630549 775983 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT :
< 1456630618 556153 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you were talking about newsgroups? thought it was java packages.
< 1456630650 861662 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes perfect sense for newsgroups imo.
< 1456630866 431647 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably move the cursive letters to the correct codepoints or cursive letters
< 1456630872 449154 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, sorry it is a java package, not a newsgroup.
< 1456630883 480402 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1456630932 676639 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456630942 447001 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's dumb
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< 1456632274 325833 :Guest94494!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix NICK :nitrix
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< 1456633162 389291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I got my JavaScript Xlib to support loading pictures and drawing pictures on a window. However currently the picture loading will only work properly if the X server's picture format is [blue,green,red,unused] 32-bit TrueColor format, and will not work in other cases.
< 1456633239 517832 :Xe!xe@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456633240 169407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transparency does work though, if you tell it to include transparency when loading. However it can't do full alpha transparency, but only opaque/transparent.
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< 1456644500 743416 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of the Banach-Tarski paradox that this margin can be made large enough to contain."
< 1456644595 972227 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
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< 1456645462 574668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't work in 2D.
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< 1456650484 461753 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: according to the monad tutorial fallacy, Monads are Like Burritos, and that tutorial also calls this Joe's Burrito intuition. So I don't care what the plural everywhere else is, this plural helps understanding Monads the best, according to Joe.
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< 1456650531 451291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan according to the monad tutorial fallacy, Monads are Like Burritos, and that tutorial also calls this Joe's Burrito intuition. So I don't care what the plural everywhere else is, this plural helps understanding Monads the best, according to Joe.
< 1456650536 515288 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1456650662 605823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to me, I'm tired of stupid monad jokes.
< 1456650689 702886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That includes every monad joke that involves the word "burrito".
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< 1456651461 703041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bokeh
< 1456651463 276023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1456651463 505688 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping
< 1456651515 451123 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bokeh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456651515 683962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1456651515 684063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparkle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456651551 699499 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :asynchonous?
< 1456651577 571589 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you asynchronous?
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< 1456652570 331702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn sparkle/Sparkles are annoying visual artifacts that people try to use for decoration and artistic photographs and drawings.
< 1456652581 329108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «sparkle»
< 1456652583 142201 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn sparkle/Sparkles are annoying visual artifacts that people try to use deliberately for decoration and artistic photographs and drawings.
< 1456652586 261290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «sparkle»
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< 1456652780 319701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're the only person who uses `slashlearn.
< 1456652809 992241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good that we have a binary by the name, though, for people who don't have a / key on their keyboard.
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< 1456652845 928649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits slashlearn
< 1456652850 604947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456652893 292398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits learn
< 1456652900 344778 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456652904 194489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/slashlearn
< 1456652908 621298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf int-e tswett tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf
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< 1456658169 826282 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did tell lambdabot to ignore hackego at some point... not sure whether it was restarted in the meantime
< 1456658199 298664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, it's a shame that things like `? weather don't work anymore.
< 1456658203 19254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
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< 1456661041 961745 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know there exists such a thing as a vending machine selling cooking gas cylinders? Large cylinders, not tiny ones for camping.
< 1456661058 145353 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw one at a gas station in France. It was strange.
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< 1456661670 435184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Armok14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46464 5* 0384.101.93.151 5* (+13177) 10This is a programming language made by Armok himself. Well, not really. However, it is inspired by Dwarf Fortress.
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< 1456664322 178226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46471&oldid=46369 5* 0384.101.93.151 5* (+12) 10
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< 1456664669 843532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I followed the instructions? Why are the bottoms burnt?
< 1456664672 320011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid food.
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< 1456665007 826171 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ▊
< 1456665026 714178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+258A LEFT THREE QUARTERS BLOCK]
< 1456665106 148916 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uniencode [THREE HEADED MONKEY]
< 1456665110 91156 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: uniencode: not found
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< 1456668186 903654 :benderpc_!~benderpc@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 NICK :bender
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< 1456668849 566855 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote insanity
< 1456668852 973757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :397)  There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...]  You've just gave me a different result [...]  It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur.
< 1456668976 556798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn trunc/The trunc and truncf functions (of C99 and C++11) are actually supported by the MS compiler (starting from the 2013), only strangely undocumented.
< 1456668983 982784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «trunc»
< 1456669003 73610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn lrint/The lrint and lrintf functions (of C99 and C++11) are actually supported by the MS compiler (starting from the 2013), only strangely undocumented.
< 1456669005 154029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «lrint»
< 1456669021 727149 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: these are actually useful what gives
< 1456669044 856242 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: probably I never really understood how to write good wisdom entries.
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< 1456670472 506825 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-
< 1456670472 640188 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas said 5h 32m 20s ago: according to the monad tutorial fallacy, Monads are Like Burritos, and that tutorial also calls this Joe's Burrito intuition. So I don't care what the plural everywhere else is, this plural helps understanding Monads the best, according to Joe.
< 1456670512 50802 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett
< 1456670525 32422 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`massage
< 1456670528 396421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: massage: not found
< 1456670530 370578 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, wrong sigil.
< 1456670532 686706 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massage
< 1456670532 820058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1456670559 889650 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@saussages
< 1456670560 23056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1456670567 949919 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sassages
< 1456670568 83311 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1456670572 890646 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats b_jonas with an enchilada /====/

< 1456670573 317992 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sossages
< 1456670573 451712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1456670576 979752 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go.
< 1456670611 427306 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, let me try one more.
< 1456670611 737792 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sausages
< 1456670611 871453 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1456670633 387254 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sossages" it is.
< 1456670633 520689 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick sossages
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< 1456671277 727241 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@saussages
< 1456671277 860794 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
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< 1456671341 695726 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l le
< 1456671342 862046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 4 \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0  17 Dec  9 04:12 rn -> ../bin/slashlearn \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 267 Dec 22 18:32 rn_append
< 1456671374 590335 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls .//le
< 1456671375 664092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn \ rn_append
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< 1456671417 853726 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`.//slash_learn testy/test//testing
< 1456671418 528583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv//slash_learn: No such file or directory
< 1456671431 307891 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bin//slashlearn testy/test//testing
< 1456671434 319537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «testy/test»
< 1456671439 638077 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? testy/test
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< 1456671441 411010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing
< 1456671449 970126 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget testy/test
< 1456671453 194994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what?
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< 1456671549 792322 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's good that we have a binary by the name, though, for people who don't have a / key on their keyboard. <-- ERM...
< 1456671579 330077 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, this is the time when shachaf actually sleeps is it
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< 1456672166 512441 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/trunc
< 1456672171 366688 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/lrint
< 1456672174 681242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas
< 1456672178 231086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas
< 1456672225 973770 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf not only does b_jonas use `slashlearn, he uses it even when `learn would work tdnh
< 1456672226 107232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1456673133 449712 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1456673307 187197 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is a programming language? do we consider BF equivalents to be different languages just because the syntax has changed? would a compiler that converts a particular AST into your choice of encodings (all with the same semantics) constitute one language or many?
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< 1456673539 116904 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: isn't that what a compiler usually does, with encoding = machine code
< 1456673621 340669 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer to the first part is "it depends".  see: applescript.
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< 1456673727 834876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, most compilers translate things from one language to another, but I'm talking about something else. Something that takes an abstract representation of an AST and encodes it. I'm not sure one would call the starting thing a language. I'm not sure one would call the various possible output encodings different languages even though they are all semantically equivalent encodings of the same AST
< 1456673800 542604 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia
< 1456673814 858106 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan
< 1456673823 756944 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bood afternoily
< 1456673825 594786 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hellochaf too.
< 1456673918 39328 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: just use HoTT and they'll all be the same thing hth
< 1456673935 42431 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see what would make applescript not a language. is it that it has so many different ways to do the same thing?
< 1456673988 107233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is natural language agnostic afaihh hth
< 1456673995 744211 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: show me some ethos. i want to know if there is a consensus opinion.
< 1456674020 522916 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaihh?
< 1456674033 337634 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: since when do i have opinions on matters this arbitrary
< 1456674045 944005 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can expect nothing but facts and jokes hth
< 1456674102 217623 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have heard hth
< 1456674198 44776 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh.
< 1456674219 569111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you have knowledge. alex is not here. if you said "a lot of people agree blah" i'd believe you.
< 1456674247 955661 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456674260 404549 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't remember what people agree.
< 1456674264 659148 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk
< 1456674266 392344 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they do.
< 1456674439 835680 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456674481 688138 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what do today
< 1456674669 256812 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456675116 713801 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: diplomatic talks between my head and my stomach.
< 1456675166 913529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pls be less metaphorical. are you ill?
< 1456675180 750384 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. headache and nausea.
< 1456675205 401356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you sufficiently self-medicated?
< 1456675254 92519 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried.
< 1456675302 36864 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go back to neutral grounds. horizontal, soft grounds with a pillow.
< 1456675306 751854 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all!
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< 1456675747 338688 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl NICK :MoALTz
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< 1456676601 331400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's because I don't know in advance when `learn works
< 1456676652 248882 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456680082 227936 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456680734 697516 :nzt-fish!~nzt@unaffiliated/nzt JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456681980 478317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-
< 1456681980 637326 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2h 42m 34s ago: not only does b_jonas use `slashlearn, he uses it even when `learn would work tdnh
< 1456681990 480812 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456681996 482354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, the "/ on the keyboard" thing was just a swattempt
< 1456682034 600866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can't blame anyone for not using `learn because it's too complicated and magic.
< 1456682142 631072 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugnldacvsdtlqwyx PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh
< 1456682154 254159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help
< 1456682162 329054 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugnldacvsdtlqwyx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1456682172 87602 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recursion
< 1456682173 731025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might expect a reference to recursion here, but to make it interesting you'll actuallSTACK OVERFLOW
< 1456682184 757822 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugnldacvsdtlqwyx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh.
< 1456682199 50672 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456682212 336046 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
< 1456682613 617595 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye
< 1456682632 797436 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456682712 32648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth
< 1456682714 722335 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
< 1456682763 457532 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh
< 1456682764 841840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth.
< 1456682780 683750 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's the best
< 1456682788 406403 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh
< 1456682789 459122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand.
< 1456682805 570568 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand
< 1456682807 63116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird.
< 1456682813 975316 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1456682851 69113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stub
< 1456682851 957538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stub? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456682924 787416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wash my laundry in a roughly lifo order, since clothes I wear often need to be washed earlier. As a result, some of the clothes I wore for the skiing trip (which ended on 2016-01-31) remained dirty in the laundry basket for quite long.
< 1456682950 467935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now, I just started the washing machine with the last batch that contains clothes from the ski trip. 
< 1456682971 542626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that backthing will soon be completed!
< 1456682996 987888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i don't wash my laundry for too long
< 1456683010 498851 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backwhat? Backlog? Wasn't there a different word for that?
< 1456683015 321702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i might think "oops, i made a lifo"
< 1456683132 501313 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, what limits my washing throughput the most is drying the clothes. I'll have to find a better arrangement for that. 
< 1456683166 3325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No surprise, since the washing machine does the washing more or less automatically, but the drying and then putting the clothes away needs more actual work from me.
< 1456683176 455841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wear wet clothes
< 1456683195 948982 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, no. Not usually.
< 1456683209 629032 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't put all of them on. How would I wear six pairs of wet socks at the same time?
< 1456683215 512042 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or six wet shirts?
< 1456683219 97868 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that works.
< 1456683247 251658 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, socks can be stretched quite good
< 1456683256 816181 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least 4 pairs schould be possible
< 1456683280 451566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The loss of his clothes hardly mattered, because / He had seven coats on when he came, / With three pairs of boots -- but the worst of it was, / He had wholly forgotten his name.
< 1456683281 782167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but that wouldn't yield me clean clothes except immediately when they're washed.
< 1456683312 279408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's probably backlog. But I'm not sure.
< 1456683351 457091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's from The Hunting of the Snark, right?
< 1456683360 158475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1456683475 887520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely in contrast with that other famed poem,
< 1456683543 628860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Megyeri elbúsul - kedvét szegi / Neki / A folt, / Mivel csak egy kabátja volt,”
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< 1456685455 852956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Demiurgosoft 5*  10New user account
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< 1456685782 561020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most annoying is sheets by the way, since they're so large.
< 1456686075 198785 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/703900742961270784
< 1456686159 409626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new version of Xlib should add also the functions XPutTrueImage and XConvertTrueImage
< 1456686463 299737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is this your javascript wrapper thing?
< 1456686477 702790 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :Quit: ZNC http://znc.in
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< 1456686552 608241 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you help me write a thing?  i need a list of the glibc functions that take a path
< 1456686595 252935 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have to be 100% complete
< 1456686606 344696 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: uh... that's lots of functions
< 1456686611 753927 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456686646 53672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes I am making the JavaScript Xlib wrapper program but these suggestion I made now are for Xlib in C too, which would help with converting any TrueColor picture with any number of bits per channel and order of channels into the required format for the screen.
< 1456686683 257899 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i hope you don't mind me asking, what do you want to do with that list?
< 1456686770 253074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I have the similar question, why do you need the list of the glibc functions that take a path? (Are you intending to make the function to take the path in a different format or something like that?)
< 1456686783 1845 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a LD_PRELOAD wrapper that searches other paths when you use a relative path
< 1456686788 488020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: um, there's system calls like (open, open64, openat, unlink, rmdir, unlinkat, mkdir, mkdirat, link, linkat, rename, renameat, symlink, symlinkat, stat, lstat, fstatat, and lots more), then higher level wrappers like fopen, remove, ...
< 1456686829 693154 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need the *at versions
< 1456686831 386803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: um... why would you wrap all libc functions for that and with a LD_PRELOAD wrapper, why not just all syscalls with a ptrace debugger or something?
< 1456686844 961751 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: um, why not the at versions? they're the most general form
< 1456686849 752951 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they take relative paths too
< 1456686851 517000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway,
< 1456686863 700909 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they do but they also take a fd
< 1456686884 296854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I would think ptrace might be better
< 1456686919 816472 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll try
< 1456686920 300053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you could try to search the manual and/or headers for functions with "filename" as an argument name
< 1456686927 889671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oh, that reminds me
< 1456686938 703764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, no wait, that wouldn't work
< 1456686939 298633 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1456686995 740616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: what if you only caught chdir, and started the program with the pwd being a directory on a special file system you make with fuse, and caught all operations through that handle? although that might not catch operations with too many levels of .. 
< 1456687021 187033 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(too many levels up ".." components in the pathname that is, leading out of your fuse filesystem)
< 1456687039 580958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course it depends on what you want to do with the process when they attempt those syscalls
< 1456687067 721092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, arguments named "filename" probably isn't enough
< 1456687086 827102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since, you know, some syscalls like link and rename take two of the
< 1456687089 442644 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :them
< 1456687146 477156 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuse idea is interesting
< 1456687178 128650 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the trickiest ones are actually bind, accept, sendto etc (which are not actually real syscalls on unix, but wrappers over them, but that's not important right now), which can take a socket address that might be a file-based unix domain socket (AF_UNIX) which thus contains a pathname
< 1456687202 570721 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: plus of course the program could just transfer pathnames in any way to other processes which then handles those pathnames for them
< 1456687270 305948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as, you know, system("rm ./somefile") or such stupid things
< 1456687280 178929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not always stupid of course
< 1456687325 41230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system("rm ./somefile") kind of crazyness is prevalent in bad perl scripts some code monkeys write, but of course saving filenames outside the process has sane applications too
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< 1456689758 134792 :nzt-fish!~nzt@unaffiliated/nzt PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is about a language called esotoric?
< 1456690099 264134 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456690164 919713 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :nzt-fish, no, it's about esoteric programming languages! Esoteric programming languages are programming languages which are esoteric, which normally means "only known to a select few"
< 1456690184 438311 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, in this community the meaning has shifted to mean a programming language that is in some way not designed for serious use
< 1456690207 694057 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be it insufficiently powerful, hard to use, or hard to implement properly!
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< 1456690578 377184 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no reason an esoteric language called "esoteric?" can't exist
< 1456690585 807235 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although as far as I know it doesn't
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< 1456690838 245735 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, how did your submarine jousting go
< 1456690896 36936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :your team are bastards!
< 1456690933 304157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we did well because they got disqualified for it
< 1456690971 679526 :yorick__!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick
< 1456691216 376132 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes
< 1456691226 899058 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remind me the actual name of what you were doing
< 1456691328 264266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: underwater hockey?
< 1456691499 146766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Haneb
< 1456691551 536865 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aziaqzvnlkibwbaq NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1456691558 655877 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aziaqzvnlkibwbaq QUIT :Changing host
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< 1456691558 789255 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host
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< 1456691631 535273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ed wisdom/tanebventions <<<$'1s/ Go, /&submarine jousting, /'
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< 1456691632 340090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: No such file or directory
< 1456691677 442208 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ed wisdom/tanebvention <<<$'1s/ Go, /&submarine jousting, /'
< 1456691678 159733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :250 \ ?
< 1456691687 610552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ed wisdom/tanebvention <<<$'1s/ Go, /&submarine jousting, /\nwq'
< 1456691690 876815 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :250 \ 270
< 1456691698 958824 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions
< 1456691700 429356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, robots, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex.
< 1456691715 494329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"submarine jousting" is too good to waste
< 1456691876 895963 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Lambek's lemma
< 1456691878 111617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambek's lemma? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456691884 431831 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456691943 2344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, ed doesn't have that magic syntax of perl where an s/// command with an empty search part re-uses the match from the previous search (most likely in the address), right?
< 1456691977 26684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. I couldn't have written $'/ Go, /s//&submarine jousting, /\nwq' instead?
< 1456692041 880850 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes you could have
< 1456692090 236740 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often use commands like g/regex/s//replacement/g
< 1456692118 793018 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the empty regex is no problem, the search address however might be
< 1456692257 307335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Riviera: nice
< 1456692285 226830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ex have that too?
< 1456692344 690869 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1456692356 10017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456692359 752283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the docs weren't clear enough to me
< 1456692378 310254 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1456692867 639371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some guys in the engineering department building a pedal-powered racing submarine...
< 1456693031 856005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you win, though? you're enclosed in the submarine, you can't be knocked off
< 1456693382 628710 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you spring a leak
< 1456693541 695819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to be inside? Can't it be a submarine you're riding from the outside? Like a bicycle
< 1456693583 96211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Riviera
< 1456693585 13234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Riviera: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1456693616 28285 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh why thank you
< 1456693727 747571 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456693779 703366 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456693779 995772 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456693780 308496 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456693780 441912 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456693798 300247 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456693799 45161 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456693847 661304 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456693927 162653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there many different kind of summation method of infinite series, can't you just use the algebraic method? (In all examples I have tried to solve by algebra, this method works)
< 1456693957 70191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underwater jousting reminds me to the edit wars on Wikipedia concerning weather "extreme ironing" is a real sport.
< 1456693983 405197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, what exactly do you mean by "algebraic method"?
< 1456693988 55438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen extreme ironing on television (I think on a news show?) so I know it is possible
< 1456694061 880926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean that if x=1+2+4+8+16+32+... then also x=1+2x and therefore x=-1, and similar way can be done with x=1-1+1-1+1-1+1-1+... and x=1+4+16+64+256+... and so on
< 1456694181 4109 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456694200 600298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme ironing probably counts as an esoteric sport, similar to esoteric programming languages.
< 1456694205 504956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme ironing
< 1456694206 689167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :extreme ironing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456694212 56235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456694231 720892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Maybe
< 1456694243 5865 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456694259 307534 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456694262 391458 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-opspgececsbhehms JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456694306 863722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They described on television as, when you iron your clothes outside. It could be anywhere outside, whether it is in your front yard or while climbing a mountain or underwater.
< 1456694531 376970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456694649 341230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme ironing
< 1456694650 323655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :extreme ironing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456694674 598774 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages.
< 1456694677 222201 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'extreme': Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages.
< 1456694680 801358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO!
< 1456694686 561624 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, this is why I'm not using learn
< 1456694693 166748 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert wisdom/extreme
< 1456694693 924013 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: unknown revision 'wisdom/extreme'!
< 1456694701 299868 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/extreme
< 1456694706 576149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas
< 1456694710 342084 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -v wisdom/extreme
< 1456694711 813243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information.
< 1456694723 339737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn extreme ironing/Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages.
< 1456694727 299654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «extreme ironing»
< 1456694864 318571 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there esoteric programming languages specialized for programming in crazy places, like underwater or while parachuting?
< 1456695077 207726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not, but you can try to make it up anyways
< 1456695715 680277 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456695726 661993 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu
< 1456695731 766182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess some M:tG un-cards might count
< 1456695747 681200 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456695853 712530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, not really.
< 1456696119 371959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got resource string parsing to work now (it includes both the root window's RESOURCE_MANAGER property and the command-line arguments)
< 1456696261 960140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example: yield X.initQuarks(["customization","background","foreground","TestWindow"]); yield X.initResources(["","-xrm #XRM","-bg .background","-fg .foreground","@TestWindow"]); console.log(yield X.getResource([X.quark.customization]),yield X.getResource([X.quark.TestWindow,X.quark.background]));
< 1456696358 694853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this?
< 1456696612 217433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks nice
< 1456696817 961356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently someone has uploaded the time-reversed version of at least three Tom && Jerry episodes to youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBLYV9uN2xk
< 1456698214 996968 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2800/fv02774.htm ... now how do they know that the ballott wasn't stuffed?
< 1456698218 695625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :voting is hard.
< 1456698346 440860 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they have a government-approved key pair
< 1456698451 4256 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it risks not being anonymous?
< 1456698557 71036 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :True
< 1456698561 967079 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm heading to bed now
< 1456698569 741013 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan
< 1456698595 928814 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro tip: go *around* walls, not through them
< 1456698627 297110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I regard doors as not being part of the wall)
< 1456698640 831313 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's usually good advice, although it depends on whether you are phasing or have enough turns of passwall remaining.
< 1456698659 104491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, whether you can dig very fast
< 1456698717 78778 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-kay
< 1456698742 138549 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456698905 692312 :dos!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456699142 662060 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456699188 652431 :earendel2!~earendel@176.0.33.151 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456699199 502313 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456699438 330815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made X.Picture instances to also be EventEmitter instances, even tlhough X.Picture does not have any events. This is because JavaScript does not have multiple inheritance. (Later versions on my program might change this in some way)
< 1456699784 244753 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456699862 222980 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456700094 241906 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456700368 976793 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456700434 311559 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: I can't blame anyone for not using `learn because it's too complicated and magic. <-- ;_;
< 1456700456 875044 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett
< 1456700458 624121 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree
< 1456700469 851355 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH WHOM
< 1456700484 821096 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456700489 199733 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf
< 1456700492 649513 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1456700499 301767 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT :
< 1456700510 578966 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456700622 713703 :dos!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1456700701 589553 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn
< 1456700711 330227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456700719 45022 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn
< 1456700720 724655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "Learned '$topic': $1"
< 1456700801 936266 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `learn
< 1456700803 74606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456700871 14869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I agree with that regular expression.
< 1456700876 845675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: [:;,.!?]
< 1456700890 492244 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolt
< 1456700991 889962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for representing equivalence classes of A with a function : A -> B?
< 1456701058 350616 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456701069 459646 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456701189 385239 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...]
< 1456701192 393779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '`learn': `learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...]
< 1456701223 399294 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about multiwordstuff?
< 1456701244 267535 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: then you need slashlearn / le/rn / le//rn
< 1456701262 2247 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is le//rn
< 1456701278 234392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn
< 1456701279 640839 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past.
< 1456701282 618070 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le//rn
< 1456701283 515472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past.
< 1456701285 686047 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le///rn
< 1456701286 801606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past.
< 1456701288 222166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1456701291 735717 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same filename
< 1456701296 74504 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :le//rn is the most flexible, it allows you to create keys with / in
< 1456701306 393674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1456701310 339922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical #esoteric
< 1456701311 190876 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456701327 209930 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I want a //
< 1456701334 522106 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: filanem
< 1456701337 887900 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1456701349 394792 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a // in a filename is the same as a / 
< 1456701351 197545 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's not compatible with how wisdom entries are stored, alas
< 1456701362 420627 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, true
< 1456701363 174801 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except when it's not, but that doesn't apply to wisdom)
< 1456701378 517992 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could be worked around, which is kinda the case wih / anyway in that it relies on directories
< 1456701396 250160 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how is le//rn even a thing?
< 1456701400 700701 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456701403 58728 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1456701404 389741 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it branches on argv[0]
< 1456701419 47343 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat le/rn
< 1456701419 621353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "Learned «$key»"
< 1456701442 557311 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/echo-p
< 1456701443 260686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$1"; [[ "$1" == */* ]] && mkdir -p "${1%/*}" 2>/dev/null
< 1456701448 313728 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "quotient" i should think
< 1456701546 95772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../bin/culprits
< 1456701547 444110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs
< 1456701555 700855 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ..
< 1456701556 971082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ..: Is a directory
< 1456701564 811858 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teehee
< 1456701572 2382 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1456701574 521815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The function isn't necessarily surjective.
< 1456701579 111726 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456701601 31677 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm. right. in any case, ...
< 1456701624 835473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we'll need to introduce a new wisdom representation that can use any byte string not containing [\0\r\n] as a key for wisdom
< 1456701702 93644 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in universal algebra this is "kernel of a homomorphism".
< 1456701719 328467 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where kernel becomes a congruence instead of just a subset
< 1456701744 139607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, that's it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(set_theory)
< 1456701745 795111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is also mostly compatible with the current representation
< 1456701748 218871 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your case then becomes the special case of a trivial algebra, i guess
< 1456701767 873723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew I'd seen that somewhere before.
< 1456701774 87851 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it somehow quotes things it has to quote, plus does some magic (maybe sha-256 hashing) on keys too long for a filename
< 1456701799 120265 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: there's a wtf(6) command from BSD games that does something similar, and it simply uses a tab-separated file
< 1456701805 487524 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and people say `learn is too complicated :P
< 1456701808 143594 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :key\tvalue
< 1456701825 25822 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that disallows tabs...
< 1456701829 315509 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes
< 1456701843 597421 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is the limit of a filename shorter than that of an irc message?
< 1456701844 958741 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it allow all printables
< 1456701878 815033 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yes, at least the limit on filename components
< 1456701889 123371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion that many internet services that you can set up the account and profile, ought to add support for RDF. OpenID can also be used for login (which is normally only for webpages, although HTCLS and other stuff could allow OpenID to be used even outside of webpages), and the RDF can reference it too. RDF and OpenID is decentralized; you don't need Facebook and Google and Gravatar logins for example
< 1456701901 991211 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456701909 225939 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456701958 862188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Why do you type `slashlearn instead of `le/rn?
< 1456701964 317891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I mind.
< 1456701987 431201 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the name le/rn is strange. especially for an executable.
< 1456702021 337789 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isn't OpenID already decentarlized?
< 1456702038 70589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, and RDF is also decentralized.
< 1456702170 871610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then there's this thing => https://lwn.net/Articles/671604/
< 1456702188 481356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's some centralized ones
< 1456702209 368536 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and then i might think "oops, i made a lifo" <-- i call this the stack principle. any set of items to be handled devolves into a lifo unless you take care to prevent it.
< 1456702235 595770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my whole life may have devolved into a lifo tdnh
< 1456702239 336324 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helifoerjan.
< 1456702254 263591 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why, after i have washed a cup, i put it _innermost_ in the cupboard.
< 1456702296 858514 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in principle anyway.
< 1456702311 954688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i shouldn't have moved to california
< 1456702319 430060 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I try that sometimes with both cutlery and clothes. not consistently enough though.
< 1456702351 613725 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do hope that doesn't apply to digestion
< 1456702408 718061 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456702581 659722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am deliberately to be recommending the decentralized system.
< 1456702592 213202 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: my whole life may have devolved into a lifo tdnh <-- mine too, in the big picture :(
< 1456702600 882085 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilycopter
< 1456702603 354116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF is also more extensible than the other user profiles, too
< 1456702607 657564 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456702677 197780 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm there are some animals that do that, i think
< 1456702710 924222 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kinds of invertebrates with only one whatchammacallit
< 1456702727 292947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The account registration form could have the fields such as: username, password, again password, OpenID, RDF. You can therefore fill in username/password or OpenID. If RDF is also filled in, then depending on the data available, the other fields might not be necessary.
< 1456702749 218281 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilycopter?
< 1456702758 873031 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. heli-.
< 1456702776 56110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was assuming shachaf to be human... or some mammal, at least, and I didn't consider ruminants (thanks google) at all
< 1456702789 389798 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. shachaf is a bird.
< 1456702796 30019 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't considering ruminants either, really
< 1456702816 803773 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something more primitive, but i don't quite remember what
< 1456702830 311365 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jellyfish maybe?
< 1456702856 503758 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not sure what you call it... 
< 1456702864 215567 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :jellyfish would qualify I guess
< 1456702868 259834 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyp comes to my mind
< 1456702893 164203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are of course related...
< 1456702898 638188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Do you like this?
< 1456702921 828158 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least in one direction: "Jellyfish or jellies[1] are the major non-polyp form of individuals of the phylum Cnidaria.")
< 1456702949 75769 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about starfish?
< 1456702973 81550 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't sure if starfish did that, they're a different phylum
< 1456703003 872804 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm bells are starting to ring
< 1456703139 416973 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelenterata may be what i was thinking of.  apparently it's no longer considered a proper grouping.
< 1456703155 993001 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that still doesn't include starfish...
< 1456703252 389618 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh... subtleties. http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/100302.html
< 1456703486 809237 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456703608 294581 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoelomorpha seems to be another group
< 1456703688 220912 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, both protostomes and deuterostomes have two openings, which includes starfish (which are deuterostomes like the vertebrates)
< 1456703715 713245 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they differ in how the openings form)
< 1456703720 601877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know all of that biology much, but now I can know a little bit
< 1456703726 827367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is the big picture of your life
< 1456703742 349298 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1456703747 778807 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456703769 215408 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test ;-)
< 1456703781 645423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456703782 849080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?? ?@ (?where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK
< 1456703785 536267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 282341Z 05017G26KT 15SM -SHSN DRSN FEW012 SCT020 OVC065 M09/M12 A2974 RMK SF1SC3SC4 SLP076 \ ENVA 282350Z 08003KT 9999 FEW012 BKN024 00/M00 Q1023 RMK WIND 670FT 23008KT \ ESSB 282350Z AUTO 00000KT 9999 SCT055/// M06/M07 Q1024 \ KOAK 282353Z 27006KT 10SM FEW020 BKN170 OVC200 17/11 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP224 T01720106 10189 20139 55006
< 1456703834 853288 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: picture a train on tracks going toward the side of a mountain.  no matter how careful you look, you cannot make out any tunnel opening.
< 1456703862 769656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are you pre- or post- mountain
< 1456703885 227018 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pre-
< 1456703923 753746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lsmod
< 1456703924 343475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:1567 kmod_module_new_from_loaded: could not open /proc/modules: No such file or directory \ Error: could not get list of modules: No such file or directory
< 1456703926 153558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with that?
< 1456703944 61854 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask Gregor 
< 1456703963 823506 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /proc
< 1456703964 609645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 10 \ 2 \ 281 \ 285 \ 286 \ 287 \ 288 \ 289 \ 290 \ 291 \ 292 \ 3 \ 4 \ 47 \ 49 \ 5 \ 51 \ 6 \ 68 \ 7 \ 76 \ 77 \ 8 \ 9 \ buddyinfo \ bus \ cgroups \ cmdline \ config.gz \ consoles \ cpuinfo \ crypto \ devices \ diskstats \ driver \ execdomains \ exitcode \ filesystems \ fs \ interrupts \ iomem \ ioports \ irq \ kallsyms \ kcore \ kmsg \ kpageco
< 1456704071 183727 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh some starfish do "Brittle stars have a blind gut with no intestine or anus."
< 1456704284 319700 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` zgrep CONFIG_MODULES /proc/config.gz
< 1456704285 151029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONFIG_MODULES_USE_ELF_RELA=y \ # CONFIG_MODULES is not set
< 1456704395 227715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR
< 1456704395 574534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 282357Z 21020KT 12SM -RA FEW040 BKN063 BKN100 BKN150 09/05 A2986 RMK SC1SC4AC1AC1 VIRGA N SLP114
< 1456704491 11421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do most JavaScript programs require a webpage or most don't? (My own program "JSZM" does not require a webpage and only requires ES6.)
< 1456704626 2210 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the sheer mass of websites means that most javascript code is written for websites... typically operating on the DOM, which requires some sort of browser.
< 1456704642 929919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, the HTML DOM)
< 1456704654 856814 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also an SVG one, at least
< 1456704671 991323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably extends to XML in general
< 1456704693 687043 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then it covers XUL as well)
< 1456704734 905708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@where weather) KSEA KOAK
< 1456704735 97252 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :XUL is the worst
< 1456704736 664942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : KSEA 282353Z 20014G20KT 10SM FEW012 BKN050 BKN060 07/05 A3004 RMK AO2 PK WND 22027/2338 RAE08B24E37 SLP179 P0001 60029 T00720050 10100 20067 53018 $ \ KOAK 282353Z 27006KT 10SM FEW020 BKN170 OVC200 17/11 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP224 T01720106 10189 20139 55006
< 1456704739 610233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?? (?where weather) KSEA KOAK
< 1456704741 636455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : KSEA 282353Z 20014G20KT 10SM FEW012 BKN050 BKN060 07/05 A3004 RMK AO2 PK WND 22027/2338 RAE08B24E37 SLP179 P0001 60029 T00720050 10100 20067 53018 $ \ KOAK 282353Z 27006KT 10SM FEW020 BKN170 OVC200 17/11 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP224 T01720106 10189 20139 55006
< 1456704745 770170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\?/@/g' wisdom/weather
< 1456704747 928305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456705211 82914 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme
< 1456705217 945292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages.
< 1456705251 71406 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget extreme
< 1456705254 263745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what?
< 1456705310 81848 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ironing
< 1456705310 979290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456705312 190100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa
< 1456705313 755037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan
< 1456705314 719562 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Mon Feb 29 01:21:53 2016
< 1456705315 224596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme ironing
< 1456705316 393983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages.
< 1456705329 249211 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat?
< 1456705330 889885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that date makes no sense hth
< 1456705347 929904 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you just need a leap of logic hth
< 1456705478 350870 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : see, this is why I'm not using learn <-- OKAY
< 1456705506 311312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn
< 1456705507 730100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456705520 395438 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456705540 366869 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s '`learn' wisdom/learn
< 1456705542 974008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456705573 175047 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bissextically mapoles oerjan

< 1456705579 390732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat?
< 1456705587 437829 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that entry is suspiciously accurate
< 1456705596 942618 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i just made it
< 1456705609 608224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn learn is the most convenient and error-prone way of adding new wisdom entries.
< 1456705611 717316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'learn': learn is the most convenient and error-prone way of adding new wisdom entries.
< 1456705612 900669 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `learn
< 1456705613 937687 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn is the most convenient and error-prone way of adding new wisdom entries.
< 1456705616 597851 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1456705618 414541 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so.
< 1456705618 610815 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann%C3%A9e_bissextile
< 1456705622 445256 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ARGH
< 1456705626 947545 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
< 1456705635 301943 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*learn
< 1456705636 834396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/learn \ wisdom/`learn
< 1456705637 982884 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1456705640 789961 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/*learn
< 1456705643 449739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0   6 Feb 29 00:25 wisdom/learn -> `learn \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 149 Feb 29 00:26 wisdom/`learn
< 1456705647 385305 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew
< 1456705649 806600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn
< 1456705650 919762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...]
< 1456705693 151626 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? one
< 1456705694 203882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456705696 662867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fish
< 1456705697 815455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456705704 469842 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? seuss
< 1456705705 570640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seuss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456705714 532477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dr seuss
< 1456705715 447222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr seuss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456705783 190667 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bissextile is a weird word
< 1456705797 232852 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say.
< 1456705890 906307 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's because the roman calendar was weird.
< 1456706037 723387 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :romans built an empire on top of unusual units and acrobarithmetic.
< 1456706346 254542 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did any empire not
< 1456706365 754887 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the french
< 1456706376 726597 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except they were unusual when they started
< 1456706549 234631 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what is acrobarithmetic?
< 1456706569 302073 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellombda-11235. it's acrobatical arithmetic hth
< 1456706617 556111 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( There was a doctor called Seuss / who studied Grinch's Whoville abuse, / one fish and two fish, / red fish and blue fish. / To me that is highly abstruse. )
< 1456706748 637765 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456706792 446065 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be an ideal design for a database?
< 1456706799 427866 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. what is your stance about unusual units?
< 1456706815 41064 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideal?
< 1456706815 210406 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What kind of unusual unit?
< 1456706817 690145 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Units of what?
< 1456706830 264541 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Most useful.
< 1456706836 480381 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite?
< 1456706853 241701 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme irony
< 1456706854 906001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :extreme irony? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456706861 13737 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :units of measurement, odd conversion factors between them, units that measure unusual stuff...
< 1456706871 29750 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah; love'em
< 1456706882 849136 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn extreme irony/Extreme irony it was happens when you do extreme ironing leading to a Darwin award.
< 1456706886 923744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «extreme irony»
< 1456706911 82560 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love them with almost exactly 5pi romeos (2.5tau juliettes)
< 1456706918 532144 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn extreme irony/Extreme irony it what happens when you get a Darwin award for extreme ironing.
< 1456706921 187108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «extreme irony»
< 1456706922 382951 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1456706929 342164 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn extreme irony/Extreme irony is what happens when you get a Darwin award for extreme ironing.
< 1456706931 892166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «extreme irony»
< 1456706940 74283 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the above, however, is extreme muphry's law.
< 1456706973 345585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes HTML/SVG DOM is what I had meant. A JavaScript program is not required to touch any DOM though, and if only core JavaScript features are used then it can be used with anything.
< 1456706987 218620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know
< 1456707001 990620 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my stance about unusual units is about 63 millicleese hth
< 1456707002 919850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It would then still require a front-end to be written, although that would be a separate program.)
< 1456707015 461750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What is that units?
< 1456707015 881307 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: millicleese?
< 1456707040 121001 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 1/1000th of a cleese hth
< 1456707044 816638 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: unit of absurd humor hth
< 1456707068 442629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456707081 372878 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456707100 33127 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should the past tense of "synch" be "sanch"?
< 1456707111 718099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's some simple pure ecmascript I wrote some years ago for fun http://sprunge.us/SaZe?js
< 1456707179 347515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any actual strong english verbs with y as main voerl
< 1456707181 394049 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I love Tarjan's disjoint set forests.)
< 1456707185 126020 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*woveel
< 1456707217 6612 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you count lay, but I doubt it
< 1456707234 758814 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could verbify "lyre" ;-)
< 1456707247 379777 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm with int-e 
< 1456707252 751620 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woveel, voerl, mhound, tromple, spronghack...
< 1456707329 575625 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'd say that's not the main vowel
< 1456707345 702966 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I would be inclined to agree
< 1456707353 298433 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word 50
< 1456707356 743693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivlncene mball durhetendumen preng se pitibindrectic dgolineng obmlacomess cong fridarosed resmatienexong mee ats ramed fae acomerischigney nitgeheaesalthemereca canobipit ickeuconethet othilbarmundenobte si ta enatrad ceacgrapraffe hors juggerismushimeraocke idercenstrablebedres imulanimaartunignings ters mureahaltemassanon rned kito flasimen les 
< 1456707403 222837 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those words are a bit verbose
< 1456707409 599202 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka wordful
< 1456707420 343949 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mureahaltemassanon sounds Finnishish.
< 1456707447 546370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wry!
< 1456707455 28138 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh!
< 1456707496 759452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a wry?
< 1456707501 45013 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um, not strong sorry
< 1456707567 735917 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe some others on -y are...
< 1456707592 934765 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to study ZF^C
< 1456707601 551657 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with ZFC
< 1456707605 618569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :type?
< 1456707625 157702 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph neither cry, try or fry
< 1456707631 319343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what kind of strength you're after
< 1456707655 452333 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFC is set theory with nothing /but/ the axiom of choice
< 1456707656 758525 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: an irregular vowel change in the past tense would be good
< 1456707656 892009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hit/hit/hit kind?
< 1456707675 509738 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ablaut, basically
< 1456707707 215953 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't count -y -> -i- since that's a completely regular rule)
< 1456707762 465011 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What alternatives are there to Horn Clauses for logic programming?
< 1456707768 298578 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm to work with synch above, it probably shouldn't be the last sound in the word either
< 1456707864 15136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whymtgcardsmith.tumblr.com/post/139692846278/because-actually-playing-magic-the-gathering-is Change "the player with the highest life total wins" to "the active player loses".
< 1456707899 869898 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tryst" of 7th guest fame appears to be completely regular as well
< 1456707917 958656 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the problem with finding one, i think, is that strong verbs are always germanic while y in germanic words only appears at the end like that
< 1456707920 620863 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but is interesting to me in that the "y" isn't the usual ai: sound)
< 1456707952 206511 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm too lazy for proper IPA)
< 1456707976 204877 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary claims it can be ai
< 1456707992 624017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aɪ
< 1456708044 378618 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'll try sleep. Back in Europe...
< 1456708428 710246 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When you draw cards, draw an extra card"
< 1456708437 874488 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone doesn't know about event-driven programming tautologies
< 1456708847 220514 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456709385 5179 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is binging ASMR and SCP at the same time. maybe I shouldn't do that...

< 1456710142 838381 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: A Sailor Moon Romance and the Society of Catholic Priests?
< 1456710196 163474 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Age Standardized Mortality Rate and Security Certified Program?
< 1456710233 25160 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average Spread Margin Rating and Simple Chess Program
< 1456710312 330096 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if there were Sailor Moon ASMR out there...
< 1456710324 584544 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catholic Priests are too terrifying to qualify as mere SCPs.
< 1456711092 673298 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456711408 926614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does a person gotta do get mapoled around here
< 1456711441 652486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, how is "mapole" pronounced?
< 1456711452 700607 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad puns, essentially.
< 1456711453 986054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed it was like "ma pole"
< 1456711460 192338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it's more like "mey pole"
< 1456711475 598785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only have good puns tdnh
< 1456711480 463084 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a pole, ma'am
< 1456711527 430270 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mæ'po:l/ hth
< 1456711529 395414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a mapole a citizen of mapoland
< 1456711557 552038 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i find that o: unlikely
< 1456711577 353987 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is likely, with my outrageous accent.
< 1456711602 143666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHKEE
< 1456711627 595762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to read those highfaluting IPAs
< 1456711630 217147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even drink beer
< 1456711642 357658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it highfalutin?
< 1456711648 567152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have faluted a little too high myself
< 1456711689 870422 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if shachaf ever ingests anything nice

< 1456711710 516482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, you weren't even around for my pun earlier
< 1456711740 543749 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just lives on broccoli and bean sprouts
< 1456711751 926015 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ieeeuw... broccoli...
< 1456711778 671196 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the occasional grapefruit.
< 1456711779 58144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when i was ~3 years old i'm told i would throw tantrums about not being given broccoli
< 1456711795 931528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would sit outside the apartment and scream "broccoli! broccoli!" even through we were out
< 1456711814 895263 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eyes shachaf

< 1456711829 985958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2016-02-27#225334oerjan
< 1456711857 734282 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. and what was the pun you got overmapoled for?
< 1456711893 150534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i've ever been overmapoled
< 1456711948 405944 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Where do I file a complain if I have reason to believe I've been overly mapoled? ← overmapoling much?
< 1456711965 49034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, right.
< 1456711968 171794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pun is a few lines later.
< 1456712094 580764 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thwacks shachaf with his mapole

< 1456712099 334726 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pun was bad.
< 1456712125 937438 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still file a complain.
< 1456712157 389930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain
< 1456712159 142244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" >> Complaints.mp3; echo Complaint filed. Thank you.
< 1456712167 119876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits Complaints.mp3
< 1456712172 914816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett oerjan tswett oerjan hppavilion[2] oerjan
< 1456712257 961298 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LEOTARD CHICKEN
< 1456712856 328952 :andrew!~andrew@119.139.158.159 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456713218 170845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are the modal complainer
< 1456713307 820079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ie am the very modal of a modern filer of complaints"
< 1456713310 202895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/e//
< 1456713431 920924 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain This database lacks knowledge animal and vegetable and mineral.
< 1456713435 375342 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you.
< 1456713497 921863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're even more modal
< 1456713503 840228 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mod 2, to be precise.
< 1456713532 369473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to think Modest Mussorgsky's first name was the english adjective
< 1456713546 54646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like an odd title to give oneself
< 1456713549 484745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seemed
< 1456713583 213703 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as he was an exhibitionist
< 1456713987 694622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got selections to work in my program now, in both directions
< 1456714033 324426 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456714035 635917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the music from Modest Mussorgsky on my computer right now
< 1456714070 418299 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456714132 509143 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456714173 260952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which music?
< 1456714179 369171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He wrote good musics.
< 1456714255 48441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Great Gate of Kiev"
< 1456714321 878781 :Sir_Andrei!~user@r179-25-97-128.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456714325 153046 :Sir_Andrei!~user@r179-25-97-128.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1456714399 210201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox requests the "TARGETS" target five times, and then "UTF8_STRING", and then "COMPOUND_TEXT", and then "STRING". Xterm requests "UTF8_STRING" (even if Unicode mode is disabled), and then "TEXT", and then "COMPOUND_TEXT", and then "STRING".
< 1456714402 896843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that?
< 1456714709 769795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can now write:  window.createSelection(X.atom.PRIMARY,t=>(t==X.atom.STRING && new Property(X.atom.STRING,8,"Hello, World!"))).on("clear",()=>console.log("Cleared"));
< 1456715108 489170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Property/X.Property/
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< 1456715553 33007 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1456717519 212206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to add support for Plan9 forwarding into SSH server in Linux? If so, how?
< 1456717594 693802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other thing to add would be support for adding a one time pad encryption on the outside layer)
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< 1456725691 854566 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the opposite of intuitionistic logic? Something destructive, no doubt
< 1456725714 169664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is dual-intuitionistic logic.
< 1456725732 553183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where not not P is a stronger statement than P.
< 1456726102 977477 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unicode.org/consortium/adopt-a-character.html
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< 1456726523 162062 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I don't understand how that's not satire. It's satire, isn't it? But it's on unicode.org. I'm so confused.
< 1456726615 230270 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: it is a sort of donation mechanism, all serious
< 1456726702 151152 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I told someone I was paying $5000 a year to sponsor a Unicode character and, in return, receive an engraved plaque, I'd be locked in the looney bin.
< 1456726782 812137 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an aside: Hello! I'm new to this channel
< 1456726829 401975 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello :p
< 1456726882 735645 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Than just tell them you're paying to support multilingistic harmony across all computer systems.
< 1456726971 548893 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: I think that's still grounds for the looney bin :)
< 1456727422 702260 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456727434 695696 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Then just don't tell anyone. :)
< 1456727489 79522 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: have you adopted a character yet?
< 1456727599 583144 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if I was going to adopt, I'd choose U+200F RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK. It's a good character
< 1456727679 2894 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, it's a great character to insert into unsanitized HTML forms
< 1456727765 199657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dingbat
< 1456727772 302848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1456727863 389476 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheers. I'm a big fan of esolangs, so I guess this is a good place to lurk
< 1456727873 62363 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: No.
< 1456727878 463000 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: visible, allocated graphical characters only
< 1456727900 965494 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: aww. Shame
< 1456727962 128686 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: someone managed to adopt a combining character, though
< 1456728002 930148 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd choose λ, just cause it's the only character whose code I've memorized by heart.
< 1456728009 558756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that a lot of mess has been made with Unicode
< 1456728037 593251 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ⯣ ?
< 1456728083 711442 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: U-03BB, so no. 11235 is the first 5 numbers in the fibonacci sequence.
< 1456728117 963766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: people do that in zoos, but in that case at least they get a plaque not at home, but at the cage of the animal they adopt, so anyone visiting the zoo can see they're the sponsor.
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< 1456728169 159978 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right. And that makes some sense, because people go to animal zoos. But I somehow doubt many people visit the "Unicode zoo"
< 1456728191 855526 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reverse Polish Logic
< 1456728212 429527 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0666 is a nice satanic character. ARABIC-INDIC DIGIT SIX
< 1456728233 906212 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0666
< 1456728235 422102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​٦
< 1456728245 807116 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+6666
< 1456728246 713460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​晦
< 1456728261 560667 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0777
< 1456728262 326037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ݷ
< 1456728280 415067 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+7777
< 1456728281 381507 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​睷
< 1456728293 834059 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 4242
< 1456728294 874487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​䉂
< 1456728318 371423 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 42
< 1456728319 152866 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B
< 1456728322 757402 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAAAAASP
< 1456728337 85897 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: ٦٦٦
< 1456728355 832952 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh nooo Satan's string is coming for me!
< 1456728366 233261 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 1f446
< 1456728367 3628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​👆
< 1456728399 366835 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So glad iPhone finally added that to the font set. Conversations with friends are much more succinct
< 1456728464 165942 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :👎
< 1456728474 605551 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: U+1F446 displays for you? on weechat it doesn't show up, although in the terminal emulator it does.
< 1456728487 834051 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1f459
< 1456728488 347603 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wierd.
< 1456728513 61682 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Yup. I'm on IRCCloud, the OS X client, specifically. So I guess it's using OS X system fonts
< 1456728541 786500 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: possible noooooooooooooooooooooob
< 1456728576 501942 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what typographists are calling "Totally gay", U+1F46C
< 1456728586 277518 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hahaha it's the most convenient client I've tried. It stays connected no matter what, and I don't have to keep a bouncer running :)
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< 1456728634 491451 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F47C is depressing
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< 1456728824 444388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"UTCE" http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/utce is a better character set for making terminal emulators with, than Unicode, which is especially bad for that purpose
< 1456728899 981730 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Does it have box drawing?
< 1456728908 380046 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it is a well-doomed replication of ISO 2022 I think
< 1456728919 336046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes it does have all of the box drawing
< 1456728925 950648 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: STFH
< 1456728935 827859 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(STFH is the opposite of GTFO)
< 1456728976 113604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The PC character set has all of the box drawing, and all characters in the PC character set are included in UTCE)
< 1456728997 733363 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: !
< 1456729012 689253 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: &
< 1456729021 766882 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I made a GUI application for generating SBLs
< 1456729026 859639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually there are also a few additional box drawing stuff in the DEC and Infocom and Commodore sets, and those are also all included.
< 1456729232 710183 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's an sbl?
< 1456729305 380431 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Stack-based langauge
< 1456729322 899771 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, like forth or factor?
< 1456729345 293165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It is far simpler than ISO 2022 actually, and is capable of being used on the same system as ISO 2022.
< 1456729346 433316 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or PostScript?
< 1456729445 709143 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isn't that bytes marked with * are used to switch the current bank?
< 1456729458 591344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can use the DEC character set selections together with it, and use a single font with it. Therefore the terminal emulator can be fulfilled without use of Unicode or ISO-2022-JP or whatever else like that)
< 1456729482 959836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: No, the bytes marked with * are not used in UTCE, and may be used for data transfer functions and/or terminal control functions.
< 1456729503 262234 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes, like forth or factor, but stupider
< 1456729515 68899 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Really, it just prompts you with random symbols and you describe them
< 1456729524 272563 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's for mass-production of low-quality esolangs
< 1456729546 985248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The bytes marked with 0 also, if not the second byte of a two-byte code, may be used for terminal controls, such as to emulate VT100 character set selections.)
< 1456729548 837778 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Does Befunge count as an SBL?
< 1456729583 391714 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it actually is [\t\r\n...] | [\x20-\x7e] (?# bank 0 characters ) | [\x80-\xff] [\x20-\x7e\x80-\xff] (?# double-width fixed bank characters ) | [\x80-\xff] [\x00-\x1f] (?# bank override ) ?
< 1456729638 673607 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then this is much worse than ISO 2022 in terms of total number of characters supported.
< 1456729671 389137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I change the document a bit to clarify it
< 1456729709 734223 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Yes.
< 1456729721 824588 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: for example, how would you support GB 2312 in the same framework?
< 1456729729 754464 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Anything with a stack as the primary data structure is an SBL
< 1456729770 793768 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Gotcha. (I'm particularly fond of Befunge as far as esoterics go, and working on a similar language)
< 1456729871 266837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Currently there is no Chinese supporting, although you can write in Japanese. (There is also no Korean) It could possibly be added into the double wide characters though, although currently they are defined as only JIS X 0213
< 1456729900 616185 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Befunge is the best
< 1456729907 807001 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: I once tried making a production Fungeoid
< 1456729916 324873 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it going to be a multi-byte (larger than 2 bytes) encoding?
< 1456729920 703016 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: (Also, I wrote most of the fungeoid article on the wiki :))
< 1456729929 636979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is only 2 bytes
< 1456729943 444055 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you need some kind of switch characters, and it is identical to ISO 2022
< 1456729955 4251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would expect that you can do without simplified Chinese
< 1456729982 711498 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe a flat namespace used by Unicode is much better than tons of separated namespaces
< 1456730017 829276 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh neat. I really like how fantastically easy it is to make a simple fungeoid interpreter
< 1456730033 84371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is better yes, although the rest of Unicode is worst.
< 1456730084 860918 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have tried TRON first :p
< 1456730206 436908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I believe my design can be reasonable even without simplified Chinese included. (Arabic and Hebrew and zero-width spaces and combining characters will never be included; all of these things are against this design.)
< 1456730208 739621 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder, did ais523 deliberately name Underload to make people create an abbreviation ambiguous with the already famous language unlambda, in a similar way as brainfuck and befunge causes problems?
< 1456730274 755267 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so, kind of like a built-your-own-with-five-words kind of esolang
< 1456730329 114099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if it's so, then we need another language as successful as those whose name matches I.*C.*
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< 1456730384 661808 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes
< 1456730398 742572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTCE is not designed for typography; it is designed for screen displaying on a grid-based display with simple encoding/decoding, so there is no such things as hyphenations and ligatures and so on that can be supported (actually an implementation probably could, but it would be a bad idea).
< 1456730400 594619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Except it can have upwards of 18000 instructions
< 1456730464 851407 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, I was thinking of something like "C without semicolons" or "Lisp with indentation"
< 1456730520 618847 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: like cp437?
< 1456730533 517890 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: C without semicolons? http://ioccc.org/1988/litmaath.c (+ s/;/{}/)
< 1456730566 60875 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not really hard.
< 1456730604 590239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but with more characters including DEC characters.
< 1456730622 953752 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I try to read ioccc code?
< 1456730638 464839 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T EVEN KNOW C NORMALLY
< 1456730652 140451 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I do
< 1456730672 364706 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written thousands of things in C
< 1456730812 928871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, avoids the confusion of graphics with control codes)
< 1456730951 234601 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it looks like it's an implementation of echo
< 1456730974 630161 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah
< 1456731015 252033 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only with spaces replaced with \n
< 1456731070 755215 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or '\n'.join(sys.argv[1:])
< 1456731098 146280 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Python
< 1456731313 876617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In JavaScript it would be process.argv.slice(1).join("\n") although note that the name of the program is argv[1] (and argv[0] is the name of the interpreter) so it isn't quite the same way necessarily
< 1456731372 596885 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456731375 250434 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard
< 1456731384 903891 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnird to you
< 1456732847 902222 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnurd
< 1456733262 769412 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456733316 701938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not know C programming, then you must learn.
< 1456733421 564412 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah
< 1456733451 157033 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language that doesn't change the way you think is not worth knowing
< 1456734156 830098 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: What if said language is your first language?
< 1456734168 453565 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: And you already thought in its mindset?
< 1456734195 940140 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/izabera/pathhack if anyone wants to try this, it lets you handle relative paths in other directories than .
< 1456734222 282555 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put the list in the paths file and run make
< 1456734233 477440 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to axiomize everything in one grand messy axiomatic system
< 1456734235 301679 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's mostly a test, maybe i'll rewrite it with fuse)
< 1456734245 618768 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can reason about groups relative to topological systems
< 1456734261 647985 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/systems/spaces/
< 1456734271 156635 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION may have just invented Category Theory

< 1456734296 835257 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ZFC
< 1456734328 302238 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, it axiomizes things completely unrelated to sets (though you can, of course, construct them using sets)
< 1456734420 993838 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory has many definitions made including thin category, discrete category, functors, monads, comonads, initial/final object, etc. Also a category can add/multiply/exponent another category, and in this way the finite discrete categories are the natural numbers of these add/multiply/exponent.
< 1456734450 909203 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is there category successor?
< 1456734471 459555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add one, I suppose
< 1456734482 121089 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
< 1456734493 523944 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You must go peano on its ass or it isn't real arithmetic
< 1456734494 253706 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1456734537 607697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could add one to any category it does not have to be a discrete category.
< 1456734572 236511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A discrete category is a category with no morphisms other than identity morphisms.)
< 1456734628 61827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By "add one" I mean you add the discrete category with one object.)
< 1456734678 489718 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah
< 1456734702 95315 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is there category predecessor though?
< 1456734713 953779 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predecessor is really what this's about
< 1456734758 399641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, there cannot always be.
< 1456734760 361708 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1456734763 949720 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Use of the successor function was a bad choice for Peano, because successor is better for computing (you don't need to brute force it or use algebra))
< 1456734765 618672 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“(A discrete category is a category with no morphisms other than identity morphisms.)” => is that like a set?
< 1456734768 4958 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's what I thought
< 1456734802 235715 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net NICK :mtve
< 1456734810 90612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I suppose it is like a set.
< 1456734878 246355 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read about Ultrafinitism
< 1456734882 37131 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew
< 1456734942 262859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any category with more than one object has more monads than final objects.
< 1456734975 288915 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456735182 660593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm reminded to the infamous lambdacats. And the one that says “I FIXED UR TYPE ERROR / BUT NOW IT SAYS SUMTHING ABOUT / MONOMORPHISM RESTRIKSHUN”
< 1456735201 385075 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C changes the way you think to.
< 1456735229 49666 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It changes it to "this language shouldn't have been used as a first choice".
< 1456735315 540420 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of languages like that
< 1456735323 332360 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :php for example
< 1456735377 227622 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: And brianfuck
< 1456735410 801417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to think C is not so bad. PHP isn't very good though
< 1456735416 527993 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, brainfuck is alright
< 1456735435 266294 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, c++
< 1456735444 361570 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one mess of a language
< 1456735482 304212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true, C++ is pretty messy
< 1456735740 678721 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1456736008 909127 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting how "to find" is practically identical to "finden" in germany, including that weird "i find sth to be sth"
< 1456737852 716879 :impomatic!~impomatic@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1456738055 84509 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up with all these boot loaders that set up graphical mode on PC hardware with bios? Why don't they just use the default vga (or similar) text mode that the bios sets up for them?
< 1456739110 337962 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it looks fancier obviously.
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< 1456744679 332066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/gallery/kenWB  i want hair like ariel
< 1456744965 261650 :Xe!xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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< 1456746744 29899 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Xe
< 1456746759 354085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Xe: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.)
< 1456747535 467288 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping
< 1456747535 600851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1456747645 298182 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ping
< 1456747654 609720 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
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< 1456747871 589303 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome tjt263__ 
< 1456747879 17449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08tjt263__: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.)
< 1456748112 996398 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1456748315 947949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ut-oh.
< 1456748384 635885 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456748400 796500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we fun-go-t.
< 1456748515 849765 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1456748558 887990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o hai!
< 1456748559 339173 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe i'll re-write her in scheme and how to remedy it provisionally. people never bother to read the label off of one and only making a new scheme implementation.
< 1456748585 644452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Chicken Scheme is good. it has chicken
< 1456748585 961752 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ' cause its in a directory? either way it's much better to force you to shoot yourself in the scratch package
< 1456748595 457083 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ow! no!
< 1456748596 33834 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://gs30ng.exca.net/ tempimage/ fnord) lets me know i am a newbie so i don't think it's deterministic.
< 1456748630 530571 :tjt263__!~RAPSCA77I@125-209-149-31.dyn.iinet.net.au PART #esoteric :"part"
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< 1456753827 357107 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it looks really weird to see San smiling nicely. She only does that once in the whole movie. 
< 1456753933 754647 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a neutral-ish smile
< 1456753941 556562 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, she shouldn't be wearing lipstick, she should be wearing wolf BLOOD
< 1456754018 25436 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we still have that bot that adds stickmen when one types  \o/ ?
< 1456754021 910978 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C no
< 1456754256 878134 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should do eboshi and the giant pig lord
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< 1456755172 675912 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no myndzi ;_;
< 1456755353 114257 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen myndzi
< 1456755353 247784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mYNDzI
< 1456755359 249613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456755371 919717 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did lambdabot do there...
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< 1456757788 899420 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1026
< 1456757796 674705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1026: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
< 1456757823 951152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help seen
< 1456757824 84812 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands
< 1456757848 854253 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: leet
< 1456757863 595637 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1456758015 146339 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor Belkar
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< 1456759130 847718 :ski_!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se NICK :ski
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< 1456759659 198872 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got an esolang idea, infinitely parallel DFA. the DFA's output is (synchronously) transmitted to the next machine in chain, and its input is similarily hooked to one previous to it
< 1456759684 450465 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the beginning, a starting symbol is fed into the machine in the head of the chain
< 1456759969 45845 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it is turing complete, as you can have a system thusly, simulating cyclic tag system: you have symbols S (start symbol), 0, 1, ;, D0, D1. the machine's initial state responds to D0 (in which case it sets its internal state to 0 and moves to "main loop"), D1 (same as internal D0, except internal state 1), and S (at first send out the starting data using D0 and D1, then start sending out the progr
< 1456759975 58137 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :am, repeatedly, encoded in 0, 1, ;)
< 1456760110 634449 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the main loop, the DFA reacts to 0, 1, ;, D0, D1. if it gets 0 or 1 and its internal state is 1, it then send forwards either a D0 or D1, otherwise don't transmit anything. if it gets ;, it goes into "death loop", where it will merely repeat the symbol it receives. for D0 and D1, it will just repeat the symbol onwards
< 1456760124 147532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: so you basically want a cellular automaton with a particluar neighborhood rule?
< 1456760138 481946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: those are known to be enough to be turing-complete, with the right DFA ruleset.
< 1456760146 596846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with quite small ones too
< 1456760146 730248 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok
< 1456760171 33690 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't realise it mapped into cellular automata, but now thinking makes sense
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< 1456764382 534823 :cnr_!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me NICK :cnr
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< 1456764931 813359 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Script injection because of a policy that lets through anything in JSFuck, apparently: http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/02/02/ebay-platform-exposed-to-severe-vulnerability/
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< 1456767196 161663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: whoa whoa whoa, spoilers
< 1456767222 771609 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cbbe oryxne*  then
< 1456767350 290812 :Guest4233!~sprocklem@131.104.23.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1456767382 149605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Cbbe oryxne
< 1456767392 342125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor belkar
< 1456767403 70215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least he didn't die yet.
< 1456767449 413485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a fate worse than death?
< 1456767455 413932 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly
< 1456767529 812584 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-opspgececsbhehms QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1456767606 475382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried OotS but usually I doze off after panel 2.
< 1456767688 887175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you start from the beginning?
< 1456767718 624649 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets a lot more story-driven after the first story arc I'd say
< 1456767869 811247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually followed it for a while... to the 726, apparently.
< 1456767880 616197 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was years ago
< 1456768016 941487 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1456768017 324781 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1456768017 612339 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1456768017 804582 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1456768017 981475 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1456768101 218252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :944)  I stand by the argument that fungot is the one making the most sense in this channel.
< 1456768101 717570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :507)  this strikes me as probably better than a singularity, because you can't trust a random AI, but you can probably trust olsner
< 1456768101 850788 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :196)  ah yes, indeed, alan turing was gay and stupid
< 1456768101 850850 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :336)  anyway i have to get going, first lecture at 9 and i need to do a few iterations on my article, and do some unmentionable things which also take hours   and masturbate as well
< 1456768102 214565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :129)  Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue.
< 1456768136 817466 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oots
< 1456768138 5581 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456768138 165248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? o
< 1456768139 12033 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456768162 473377 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vaarsuvius
< 1456768163 222909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaarsuvius? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456768220 535502 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shakespeare
< 1456768221 892571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456768225 309794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10
< 1456768227 266730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wiles
< 1456768228 877244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'vaarsuviu': Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10
< 1456768229 519362 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456768255 54569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wilde
< 1456768255 708229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456768273 198852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week.
< 1456768276 678713 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'vaarsuviu': Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week.
< 1456768567 92486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm will they make prints of http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=479 ? that looks amazing...
< 1456768588 656452 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456768903 803943 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that all vacuously true statements about the elements set {} are vacuously true?
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< 1456768951 67515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I would say that's false.
< 1456769001 721723 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Did I make the math joke wrong?
< 1456769081 967939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, uhm.
< 1456769145 190137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it's correct but what you wrote is not itself vacuously true; it's just a normal tautology.
< 1456769158 463881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's confusing :P
< 1456769224 901180 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: OK, OK
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< 1456769800 683599 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vaarsuviu
< 1456769801 834050 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week.
< 1456769813 507561 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vaarsuvius
< 1456769814 431739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week.
< 1456769818 790861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it works that way too
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< 1456771920 639027 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]
< 1456772025 707209 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintellopia
< 1456772053 419762 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easiest to prove things if you assume all axioms
< 1456772078 530089 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I can prove just as many things with only one axiom!
< 1456772091 311170 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Which one?
< 1456772100 706025 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all statements S, S is true.
< 1456772224 990939 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Oh
< 1456772405 616890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such axiom is inconsistent though and does not result in a meaningful system.
< 1456772434 762314 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right
< 1456772447 200122 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is "all axioms" since that would necessarily include the negation of any axiom assumed
< 1456772535 842565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you don't need a universal quantifier if you use the axiom P and not P (for whichever P you feel like using)
< 1456772576 641580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a waste of quantifiers
< 1456772684 399028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A scow IRC behavior is when you try to get people to commit to answering your questions before even knowing what they are.
< 1456772715 326305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know, both are inconsistent, since if everything can be a theorem then it is inconsistent
< 1456772719 468596 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: true
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< 1456773263 808157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have updated the UTCE document including more clarification, information about error conditions, and information about using it with ISO 2022.
< 1456773281 853003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also information about use with X window system.
< 1456773315 622650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i personally dont see a problem with surveying channel activity before laying out a long complicated question however
< 1456773914 112440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is good now?
< 1456774119 992101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, where's the document? 
< 1456774143 733153 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be somewhere under the text files
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< 1456774806 248441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/utce
< 1456775098 979462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, miscellaneous
< 1456775174 447800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other directories are mainly for archived files, so it is unlikely to add files into the other directories)
< 1456775205 881699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1456775214 607975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everything goes under misc*
< 1456775215 500482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
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< 1456775357 797366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not quite everything, occasionally files are added into other directories if they really fit there, or new directories are created for use of other archives, but my own new files tend to go under miscellaneous regardless of what they are about. The file music/xm-form.txt is one file that contains my own text as well as that from elsewhere, since that file contained some mistakes. I have marked what my changes are.
< 1456775383 80117 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's just most files right now
< 1456775435 65699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1456775677 82738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what is your opinion of this UTCE document?
< 1456775739 259045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I mostly agree with whoever said above that it's better to have a flat homogenous namespace of characters, and that namespace these days tend to be unicode. There might be characters missing, but they can be added.
< 1456775762 962407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do understand that a terminal encoding or font encoding needs different characters than a text encoding,
< 1456775767 954018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they certainly have to be distinguished,
< 1456775775 517017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least unicode provides a good base for all of these.
< 1456775805 547139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fonts, you often need more than one glyphs for one character, or combinations of characters, so it gets all ugly and complicated, but still.
< 1456775817 847064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of that can come up even with terminals.
< 1456775873 996429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminals should avoid use of such things. UTCE deliberately omits such things as Arabic and Hebrew
< 1456775877 920396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although admittedly _part_ of the multiplication of glyphs required per character would have better been avoided when unicode was made,
< 1456775895 910738 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is just a historical consequence of unifying the CJK scripts or of unifying the Russian with the Serbian scripts,
< 1456775910 241445 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1456775921 733740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a bit too later for that, and even if you did all those historical things right, you'd sometimes need multiple glyphs per character in a font.
< 1456775957 478462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh sure, arabic, hebrew, or old hungarian runes need so much ligature stuff that you just can't display them on a terminal grid, I think.
< 1456775982 810773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just don't work in monospaced.
< 1456776019 600623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct.
< 1456776037 524947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know too much about arabic or hebrew, so don't trust what I say about those.\
< 1456776050 126471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I display mostly latin script stuff in terminals.
< 1456776066 714335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And even latin script has some complications of course.)
< 1456776086 833551 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language stuff is never easy.
< 1456776090 730850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about Aratic and Hebrew, although they are right-to-left, which is also deliberately avoided by UTCE.
< 1456776181 633343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, UTCE is not intended to be used for typography; it is for terminal encoding. Even for typography, all properties should be defined in the font metrics instead of in the character set anyways.
< 1456776183 344082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Commodore 64 characters are an interesting case. That rom supports two or three font encodings, and I think \oren\ found that there are six characters all together supported by the commodore that don't seem to have nice unicode equivalents.
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< 1456776200 80945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those should be added to unicode eventually if they are used.
< 1456776221 809116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is OK that some characters are not available in Unicode.
< 1456776231 970754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTCE is separate from Unicode.
< 1456776246 681918 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, because there are tons of characters in general. And there's always more of them.
< 1456776430 798246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A terminal emulator can support multiple character encodings anyways, although sometimes different fonts may be needed in each case. I recommend that the additional character encodings to support are only the subset of ISO 2022 that is implemented in DEC terminals.
< 1456776526 484415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it is not only some Commodore 64 characters which have no Unicode equivalent, this is also the case with some Apple MouseText, Texas Instruments, and Infocom character graphics.
< 1456776541 660169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As well as a small number of DEC character graphics)
< 1456776574 303543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what Apple MouseText is
< 1456776608 288864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texas Instruments… um, is that the programmable calculators? I don't really know what kind of single-cell characters they have these days. 
< 1456776627 9073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infocom... I don't know that either
< 1456776636 178145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do mean the programmable calculators. Many of the characters it has are in Unicode, but a few aren't.
< 1456776662 840444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the DEC graphics characters, I believe all of them are in unicode now. There's only about 70 or something of them total anyway, and most of them were already in unicode for other reasons.
< 1456776683 511285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the pieces of the large Sigma aren't?
< 1456776810 831882 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there a reference for that set of characters somewhere?
< 1456776962 841349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vt100.net/charsets/technical.html
< 1456777027 749168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is also the VT100 graphics set, which is a separate set, already included in both Unicode and UTCE.)
< 1456777041 613181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Technical set is mostly in Unicode and fully in UTCE.
< 1456777062 936406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you can see, the pieces of the large Sigma have no Unicode equivalents.
< 1456777074 154063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1456777119 896130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, those might not have a unicode equivalent. I don't know.
< 1456777336 937800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice there are some duplicates; UTCE is meant not to have duplicates, so the encodings aren't exactly the same as the originals. (A font for the X window system will likely contain duplicates anyways for compatibility purposes, as described in the document I wrote.)
< 1456777378 47416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, it will have duplicates between those different character sets
< 1456777412 913239 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's quite some overlap between the DEC technical set and the 437 for example
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< 1456777585 872992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know that, and when converting either of those same characters from either DEC or PC set into UTCE, they convert to the same UTCE code.
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< 1456779583 127199 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Designing an ASCII art font is less than fun
< 1456779595 673860 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_, was it you who was making a font?
< 1456779936 636901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: \oren\ made one, lifthrasiir also made one, and I also have a bitmap font available only in BDF format currently
< 1456779974 862660 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, do you have an example rendering of your font
< 1456779975 960903 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently dormant (due to other works, in particular a brainfuck interpreter retrial)
< 1456780051 206179 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, I'm only using ASCII, do you have an example rendering?
< 1456780063 747415 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: not any good ones. I should make some, but I'm lazy
< 1456780068 981021 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample
< 1456780077 99675 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've drawn plenty of them
< 1456780097 206994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-cp437.png and http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-screenshot-irc.png are all I have available, and they don't show much
< 1456780112 553790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1456780129 864902 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, neither are quite what I was after
< 1456780133 690732 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, though :)
< 1456780159 501514 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going for a far lower resolution)
< 1456780187 505623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: mine is 10x20, oren's and lifthrasiir's both use a 16x9 grid or something I think
< 1456780204 886041 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16x(8n) variable, to be exact
< 1456780231 19118 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: oh, is yours 16x8 rather than 16x9? I didn't know
< 1456780243 97306 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a brainfuck program to make ASCII art banners
< 1456780252 25019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what size would you want?
< 1456780252 287143 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that some glyphs smoothly connect to each other
< 1456780273 309807 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: FIGlet renderer in brainfuck? :)
< 1456780290 991206 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently going for 4 by 5
< 1456780297 964963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, lifthrasiir's is 8 wide
< 1456780392 314795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: what's your progress with it by the way? I've seen you've added some more Latin script characters, but you haven't added the easy but common characters like " " (thin space) yet. I know you said you didn't want to add them yet, but maybe that's changed since.
< 1456780418 840011 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I could use yours, I guess
< 1456780424 710353 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was working on combining hangul and stopped there
< 1456780445 876988 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks broadly like a higher-definition version of the style I'm after
< 1456780450 168297 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my immediate goal is to complete them and add a support for semi-automatic GPOS
< 1456780460 894290 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then* I'll continue working on extended latin...
< 1456780465 710355 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, do you have it in something machine-readable-ish?
< 1456780481 399833 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm generating this program using Haskell)
< 1456780560 402283 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1456780611 512414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I can give you the bdf version, that one is easy to read, especially as this one uses fixed offsets and sizes encoded for all glyphs. 
< 1456780632 137107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a spec for bdf by Adobe or Apple or something somewhere, but you can probably figure it out without
< 1456780640 405003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me put the bdf up
< 1456780645 885230 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, thanks! :)
< 1456780671 965353 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the pcf contains all the info but is compressed properly)
< 1456780745 859949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.bdf
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< 1456780837 52243 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, thanks a lot
< 1456780849 539786 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just need to read this using Haskell and write it as brainfuck!
< 1456780876 478775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously that version is very wasteful, you can compress it quite well
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< 1456781058 394775 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Fpetrola 5*  10New user account
< 1456781107 507432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46472&oldid=46471 5* 03Fpetrola 5* (+11) 10
< 1456781189 803771 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not hugely worried about compression
< 1456781214 85215 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: can I put in suggestions about the font? 
< 1456781222 40371 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, wishlist ones
< 1456781223 942030 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as always. file an issue.
< 1456781239 433306 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should have used an issue tracker in that way, btw

< 1456781240 146329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, file issue where? just here on the channel?
< 1456781246 846675 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/
< 1456781251 41082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1456781282 518292 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have my own internal wishlist but I haven't used an issue tracker for that project yet
< 1456781284 876448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see, I think I have a login for this thing
< 1456781324 552499 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Humo14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46473 5* 03Fpetrola 5* (+1518) 10Created page with "Humo is a programming language with a tiny interpreter implementation and the smallest set of operations for an imperative programming language. This is an experimental langua..."
< 1456781329 995504 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you happen to hate github, feel free to say it here instead
< 1456781343 517726 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try on github, but if I mess up with the github interface, sorry
< 1456781357 854854 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, tons of greasemonkey scripts?
< 1456781423 208853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, is there supposed to be some ticket metadatathing there, like type (eg. bug, feature request, task), priority (urgency), severity, etc?
< 1456781434 718667 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :github default, ignore them
< 1456781434 852227 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do I just write the text and that's all?
< 1456781437 152702 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1456781443 401601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok
< 1456781838 248307 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1456782421 92613 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably reading in the font now! :D
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< 1456783658 237000 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/CPAuNjy.jpg
< 1456783660 866757 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going well!
< 1456783681 426336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Taneb
< 1456783686 745678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1456783687 262735 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure why I took a photo rather than a screenshot
< 1456783728 39856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the esoteric way
< 1456783750 23864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to take a screenshot, print it out, and take a photo of that.
< 1456783828 545737 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456783854 762471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  shachaf: different notation. -o is logical or in find, but it's linear implication in linear logic
< 1456783860 52934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1269)  shachaf: different notation. -o is logical or in find, but it's linear implication in linear logic
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< 1456784401 43603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: put it in a word document and email that, then print the email, fax it, but wait, you have to involve MS Paint in there somewhere too
< 1456784475 981711 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\0x11235"
< 1456784477 288419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : x11235
< 1456784481 9582 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep
< 1456784486 277868 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\x11235"
< 1456784487 537539 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 𑈵
< 1456784494 856718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan
< 1456784495 880077 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan.
< 1456784502 185857 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𑈵
< 1456784505 588414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+11235  - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 91 88 b5  UTF-16BE: d804de35  Decimal: 𑈵 \ 𑈵 (𑈵) \ Uppercase: U+11235 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned)
< 1456784511 314394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my terminal isn't messed up.
< 1456784543 91481 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure
< 1456784557 103541 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode 𑈵
< 1456784558 295098 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+11235  - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 91 88 b5  UTF-16BE: d804de35  Decimal: 𑈵 \ 𑈵 (𑈵) \ Uppercase: U+11235 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned)
< 1456784632 698721 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates how hard it is to choose text inside a link

< 1456784656 25705 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's supposedly KHOJKI SIGN VIRAMA
< 1456784676 965501 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*select
< 1456785207 733877 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've... I've generated a broken, 1.1MiB brainfuck program
< 1456785222 198668 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it win
< 1456785226 452341 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1456785229 471871 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1456785235 365487 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start, the judging is not until Wednesday
< 1456785238 981046 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1456785242 383933 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: look for the error
< 1456785248 471787 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with myname 
< 1456785327 739397 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you submit it to?
< 1456785479 674784 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uni's electronics society
< 1456785505 355795 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may say "Do you mind if I give you this on a USB because I don't really want to put it in izabera's pastebin website
< 1456785507 723141 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"
< 1456785531 960403 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456785558 345876 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah what kind of shitty pastebin can't handle a few megabytes
< 1456785565 314087 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently

< 1456785568 826186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see https://github.com/isomorphism/Delineate/blob/master/Control/Delineate.hs hth
< 1456785580 381738 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456785624 922102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish cmccann was still around so i could ask him about it
< 1456785644 921631 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's my clipboard that I'm worried about
< 1456785648 523068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- Given "A ⅋ B" either A or B is true, but you get to "decide" which is true by providing a counterexample for the other, where the counterexample may be (and often is) used in the computation that produces the final result. It's probably not as confusing as it sounds. Possibly."
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< 1456786905 970815 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am guessing there's nothing enforcing that those definitions actually use each parameter once...
< 1456786959 988849 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, in a sense it's classical logic (by rampant double negation) with programmer discipline.
< 1456786978 915608 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/with/+/
< 1456787058 103175 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hobily
< 1456787081 721584 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know it takes a long time for a JavaScript emulator to run a 10000 line brainfuck program
< 1456787099 736561 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i know
< 1456787909 37464 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unexpected! i thought emulating bf would be in o(n)
< 1456787920 595112 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note the small o)
< 1456788752 517581 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan, Tanelle, mynamello.
< 1456788844 941712 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Québécois income tax are fun!
< 1456788922 392809 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tax is not a plural noun, boily 
< 1456789158 307950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluralses are complicated :P
< 1456789161 948087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't get a choice about taxes?
< 1456789342 882375 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taxes aren't really known to be about choice.
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< 1456789765 325138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whoa whoa whoa, canadian tax rates are p. high
< 1456789810 740576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe us tax rates are low
< 1456789817 291476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually maybe they're more similar than i thought
< 1456789977 805487 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we pay provincial and federal taxes, with different forms! about half my pay disappears into our Great Government.
< 1456789997 168731 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it's time for poutine. and/or pizza.
< 1456790008 169470 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHECKED CHICKEN
< 1456790049 391207 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456790074 252186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily pizza must be poutine its place
< 1456790074 385626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1456790097 46702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION groans

< 1456790151 705299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e
< 1456790158 109796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather
< 1456790161 341933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK
< 1456790164 247933 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 292331Z 22013KT 7SM -SN DRSN FEW013 BKN030 OVC090 M01/M02 A2958 RMK SF2SC5AC1 SLP019 \ ENVA 292350Z 09006KT CAVOK M04/M08 Q1017 RMK WIND 670FT 14012KT \ ESSB 292350Z AUTO 19003KT 9999 NCD M03/M07 Q1027 \ KOAK 292353Z 29009KT 10SM FEW140 SCT200 22/08 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP197 T02170078 10222 20144 56020
< 1456790187 356383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it hurts me to look at this output
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< 1456790359 998251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What if it just showed the temperature?