< 1459123306 962525 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_removal#Direct_air_capture < 1459123314 814450 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1459123328 709166 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is currently editing that a tiny bit < 1459123565 282206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Beeswax14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46665&oldid=46374 5* 03Albedo 5* (+49) 10/* Program flow control/conditional operations */ instruction 'Q' added < 1459123573 491514 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1459123576 607630 :bender|!~benderpc@58.146.138.197 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459123618 743339 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe i should have just used an anchor to start with. < 1459123648 50977 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need to make sure they're not to effective, or else people with them in enclosed spaces will end up dying of too much oxygen < 1459123687 730569 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I hate how HackEgo links to the diff page but not to the article itself < 1459123727 25130 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Agreed < 1459123732 966905 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what about a 2d programming language in polar coordinates? < 1459123755 749126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Beeswax14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46666&oldid=46665 5* 03Albedo 5* (+102) 10/* Global stack related I/O */ instruction V explanation extended < 1459123779 610438 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a 0d programming language < 1459123785 925142 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or -1d < 1459123828 787975 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would negative information be like anyway < 1459123840 712446 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative information would subtract information, right < 1459123843 874442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: you don't die from too much oxygen. it can pose some fire hazard to flammable objects, but it doesn't just kill you. space stations and some diving equipment use air with a much higher oxygen content than the atmosphere, and it doesn't hurt people. you die to higher carbon dioxide content, or lower oxygen content. < 1459123860 811903 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drops that edit < 1459123908 275710 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperoxia < 1459123933 757008 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity < 1459123948 57395 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a quick read of the first paragraph or two < 1459123955 777981 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's exactly what I mean < 1459123960 675878 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the problem might still hold < 1459123989 13680 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459123989 144158 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1459123989 144282 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1459123995 171839 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/why-does-breathing-pure-oxygen-kill-you < 1459124013 481509 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, breathing pure oxygen is deadly < 1459124034 365786 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet wikipedia says people can breathe pure oxygen without dying < 1459124036 262030 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's right < 1459124037 65670 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1459124178 665897 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a... < 1459124181 289249 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmeing language < 1459124203 6784 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Where? < 1459124221 773997 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :google says a programme is "a planned series of future events", as opposed to "program" < 1459124253 180117 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a programme is just a linear program < 1459124266 818516 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that takes the fun out of it < 1459124278 247305 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we must get people to programme programmes in a programmeing language < 1459124378 352528 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :print hello world at 1:20 on 28/03/2016 < 1459124401 361989 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world < 1459124403 106040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Beeswax14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46667&oldid=46666 5* 03Albedo 5* (+118) 10Introduction extended < 1459124496 88449 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1459124632 880360 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an example of a programme -> "I will say "hello world" at 3:20 PM on 29/03/2016. Then the user will say "hello programme". If all goes according to plan, I will say "yay"." < 1459124634 728215 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : who's right <-- iiuc 100% oxygen is harmless if the pressure is low enough <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity#Hypobaric_setting < 1459124639 609051 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-<-- < 1459124645 38397 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends how low the pressure has to be < 1459124654 421153 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.3 bar, it says < 1459124657 497165 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1459124664 248205 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 1 bar, rip < 1459124667 26009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: ok, maybe it can hurt you a bit < 1459124678 635625 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip at 1 bar < 1459124720 577993 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"breathing oxygen at pressures of 0.5 bar or more for more than 16 hours can lead to irreversible lung damage and, eventually, death." < 1459124724 148693 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :death < 1459124725 310963 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1459124726 408956 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nada < 1459124728 289930 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This general property of gases is also true in chemical reactions of gases in biology. For example, the necessary amount of oxygen for human respiration, and the amount that is toxic, is set by the partial pressure of oxygen alone. This is true across a very wide range of different concentrations of oxygen present in various inhaled breathing gases or dissolved in blood." < 1459124738 280101 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_pressure < 1459124742 341324 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pressure < 1459124760 198916 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that "partial" is important here < 1459124768 703285 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial pressure? < 1459124782 37018 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's the pressure of one part of a mixed gas? < 1459124789 482006 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximately. < 1459124796 720782 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or essentially. < 1459124806 691469 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1459124825 820049 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a mixture of gases, each gas has a partial pressure which is the hypothetical pressure of that gas if it alone occupied the volume of the mixture at the same temperature. The total pressure of an ideal gas mixture is the sum of the partial pressures of each individual gas in the mixture. < 1459124830 554164 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty wikipedia < 1459124836 257772 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :explained it better than anyone else could < 1459124848 955661 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just about to paste that. < 1459124854 128345 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1459124890 298656 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program would be like a game where you can win or lose, a programme would be like a game where things go as planned, or they don;t < 1459124949 309276 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess a programme is just a linear program <-- that's just british vs. american, at least originally. < 1459124963 552968 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a programming language where your program is just a platforming level < 1459125253 97656 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using their british meaning < 1459125334 869177 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"UK: programme is used in all cases except for computer code, in which case program is generally used. Older sources may use programme for computer code." < 1459125344 263208 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/program#English < 1459125388 545621 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks suspiciously at rdococ's cloak < 1459125392 209927 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1459125404 412048 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh, why did you think I took notice of the all europeans thing < 1459125408 870767 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, just get with the programme < 1459125432 752272 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: hey you could be from new zealand. or madagascar. < 1459125472 124295 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"New Zealand: programme is favoured by New Zealand dictionaries, and is endorsed by government usage; program is rarely seen outside the computing meaning." < 1459125505 675742 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the australians are conflicted: "Australia: program is endorsed by the Australian government, but programme is most common." < 1459125521 808867 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well program is more usually used for program code, and programme rarely < 1459125539 407916 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so programme not code < 1459125920 789972 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, I mean the definition that is not program < 1459126024 88964 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1459126033 922377 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazpacho < 1459126050 781236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1459126067 56877 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noooodl < 1459126075 534459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1459126086 725001 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooga < 1459126088 878968 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1459126105 930280 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lynn < 1459126106 687368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459126264 996802 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1459126280 798433 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a programmeing language would allow you to make programmes < 1459126295 957634 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if something doesn't go according to plan < 1459126296 662097 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn NICK :lynn < 1459126300 943789 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must have a backup plan < 1459126304 307404 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else error < 1459126393 194583 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :errorre < 1459126398 717920 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and planne < 1459126400 999283 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: hellynn. you don't have a wisdom entry. and that's terrible hth < 1459126410 754984 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjanne. < 1459126428 475057 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maur < 1459126429 312086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maur? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459126437 800606 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: technically she has at least two hth < 1459126474 770665 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjanne would be female. also exceedingly cheesy. < 1459126489 409210 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks if anyone has that name < 1459126517 865818 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwah ah ah. < 1459126542 419778 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: boilut~ < 1459126570 55957 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find it used as a hashtag for a wedding... < 1459126589 719089 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as an actual name. < 1459126597 404961 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm time to check ssb < 1459126646 247824 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :< 4 persons by that name, it says < 1459126675 706470 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would likely not be a legal name, at least for children. < 1459126692 8034 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is legal for adults? excellent! < 1459126696 771868 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(< 4 might include 0) < 1459126732 714464 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although everyone would _understand_ it as someone's misguided attempt to regender "Ørjan". < 1459126902 689 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :first cognate hit i find is "Jørgine", 78 women. (vs. "Jørgen", 10999 men.) < 1459126945 47630 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those women are probably old, most of them. < 1459126983 264891 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks Ørjanine just for good measure < 1459127018 210733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this ørjanine treads dangerously close to one infamous orange soda brand... < 1459127035 614529 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh "William" was last year's top boy's name in norway < 1459127094 778494 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in Oslo, "Mohammad" stays put at the top :P < 1459127188 611161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I thought that entry was removed but if course it's under mauri. < 1459127196 190061 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the topic of names and gender, I'm surprised at how people always talk about how some things portray women as objects, but not the things that portray men as objects. also, in a programming environment, both are objects. < 1459127210 235571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: Should wisdom/mauri be removed? < 1459127226 452614 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"don't be an object, program in haskell!" < 1459127238 538943 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That'd be nice < 1459127294 563517 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if everything was a function < 1459127314 902656 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so it is legal for adults? excellent! <-- i'm not sure exactly what the law is these days. < 1459127346 631753 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is actually function (getPredecessor?) if getPredecessor? then return 0 end end < 1459127361 202563 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-117-223.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have combinatory logic? < 1459127369 572174 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :probsably < 1459127372 742267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you an object? < 1459127372 910686 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i tried to say that: ( ( foo xxx)) yyy) ( ( y x) < 1459127375 834613 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks different < 1459127386 382241 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't understand that < 1459127386 512557 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i am fnord making conversation. it is < 1459127392 13333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/mauri < 1459127396 638021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, you are. < 1459127396 872142 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the original fnord code and fnord cyclexa asap, and i couldn't put down to simple ignorance of specific facts about canada. < 1459127398 505023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459127416 422875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: How about nooodl? < 1459127457 309543 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like that's a classic <3 < 1459127465 969088 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: there are no facts about Canada. < 1459127466 99385 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: see the announcement on c.l.s. < 1459127484 6276 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.l.s.... that would be Comp Lang Scheme, right? < 1459127492 466318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? object < 1459127493 698837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An object is just something in a category. < 1459127495 81391 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: i don't see how that definition would work for 0 and getPredecessor? seems redundant anyway. < 1459127507 679625 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use church numerals. < 1459127518 932620 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true < 1459127524 999833 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = function () end < 1459127531 147784 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 = function () return 0 end < 1459127535 843132 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 = function () return 1 end < 1459127563 378544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :successor = function (x) return function () return x end end < 1459127576 893233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about hypothetical facts? < 1459127593 149119 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :add = function (x, y) return -- umm < 1459127611 939526 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then they are certain facts, as they are hypotehtically correct, eh? < 1459127658 793579 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1459127661 994754 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = {} < 1459127662 320271 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: i'm just saying, how would you call such a function in such a way that you could distinguish 0 from 1 < 1459127664 267644 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 = {0} < 1459127677 717047 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function (x) return x end < 1459127679 635083 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk < 1459127689 573555 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :false = function () return false end < 1459127694 850883 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true = function () return true end < 1459127711 409132 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function equals(x, y) return -- umm < 1459127714 632078 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: a Tautological Functional Language < 1459127726 271344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :use binary to make computations more efficient! < 1459127737 563856 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be done with almost every type < 1459127738 684132 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :array < 1459127741 450786 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function < 1459127745 706177 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :banana < 1459127747 637258 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas. correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we doing that already? < 1459127755 2739 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BANANA! < 1459127756 312740 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: like "Ottawa would be the capital of Canada, if Canada existed." < 1459127765 480129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: point on. < 1459127769 991855 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada exists < 1459127773 409631 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reference implementation: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/Bin.hs < 1459127774 533566 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's true < 1459127778 246368 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically true < 1459127798 700656 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1459127800 426881 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you also think rdococ has trouble fitting in with the channel humor tdnh < 1459127833 624282 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: basically yes. we're actually using a higher radix (2**16 or 2**32 or 2**64) and arithmetic on digits of that size is built in, but the goal is the same, achieving efficiency with it < 1459127834 958253 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what? I understood the logical humor perfectly - he said a statement which didn't assume something it's safe to assume < 1459127851 743394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even without specific support for digits, base 4 would probably be more efficient than base 2) < 1459127875 920594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles rdococ a bit to realign his chäkräs < 1459127884 595781 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :chakwhat < 1459127893 841234 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapoles? < 1459127897 794131 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realigns rdococ some more < 1459127901 525288 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1459127902 582744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1459127912 824843 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chäkrä < 1459127913 703625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chäkrä? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459127913 834064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :function = function () return function end < 1459127915 826479 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maple < 1459127916 875084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maple? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459127919 127369 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner! < 1459127920 937149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, scrolled way up < 1459127928 94565 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything = function () return anything end < 1459127935 41617 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I like diæresises. < 1459127950 796269 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? diæresises < 1459127951 820943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diæresises? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459127959 582825 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls tell me what these words mean < 1459127976 282454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? function < 1459127977 46809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :function? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459127977 906246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fun < 1459127978 941086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459127979 842339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fn < 1459127980 777943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459127982 808322 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think it's diaereses < 1459127986 650878 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1459127997 554700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need entries for those < 1459128002 178452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambda < 1459128002 981314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459128006 450623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sub < 1459128007 337395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459128008 665866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's we here? < 1459128010 415640 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren < 1459128011 914421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1225) when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? apparently not santa claus Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1226) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by < 1459128012 620747 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? subroutine < 1459128013 440607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subroutine? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459128014 782804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need entries for those. < 1459128017 958587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? proc < 1459128018 679376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459128022 513890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? procedure < 1459128023 509769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :procedure? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459128024 907397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, this is getting a bit botspammy even for this channel. < 1459128026 907976 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote diarrea < 1459128027 698945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459128032 826344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? subprogram < 1459128033 673812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subprogram? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459128036 8869 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote e with dia < 1459128036 732045 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1250) I'm making a new font. I'm up to the capital E with diarhea < 1459128069 311737 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Maples are the sacred trees of Canada, from which a true Canadian can make anything. < 1459128072 780654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'maple': Maples are the sacred trees of Canada, from which a true Canadian can make anything. < 1459128108 255805 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote problems < 1459128109 168739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1226) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1459128153 545295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are true canadians similar to true scotsmen < 1459128166 134084 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a true canadian can make anything from maples? < 1459128169 68199 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about computers < 1459128172 811605 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or turing machines < 1459128177 180153 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tesseracts < 1459128208 219035 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadian computers use asbestos as the substrate < 1459128211 335030 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: definitely. < 1459128213 513479 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459128247 583204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, substrate is almost an anagram of asbestos < 1459128263 138683 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get b < 1459128267 538835 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. asbestrus < 1459128269 505928 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get asbestos in maples? < 1459128270 20579 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't seeing things. simply a coincidence. happens all the time. la la la ♪ < 1459128291 975298 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map sort ["asbestos","substrate"] < 1459128293 389179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["abeossst","aberssttu"] < 1459128341 465375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "asbestur" < 1459128343 279292 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "abersstu" < 1459128348 725785 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is there a problem? < 1459128415 739535 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost typoed that as "substrate is almost an anagram of substrate" < 1459128445 84721 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: it's a joke because canada is a major producer of asbestos < 1459128456 711797 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost is almost an anagram of asbestos < 1459128481 570948 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sobstate < 1459128495 258448 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the saying goes, the best os is asbestos < 1459128496 162325 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no nefarious plans behind anything you might conjecture tonight. < 1459128532 806903 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :new, Array Language! 0 = [] 1 = [[]] okay this is getting old < 1459128536 355436 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1459128597 581457 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 = function () return 0 end, vs 1 = [0] < 1459128853 359770 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :add = function (x, y) return ifequal(y, function () end, x, add(function () return x end, y())) end -- what is ifequal(x, y, trueReturn, falseReturn)? < 1459128908 533169 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifequal = function (x, x, trueReturn, falseReturn) return true end < 1459128919 474336 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nil would be function () end() < 1459128924 626000 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nil = function () end() < 1459128929 860382 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it works < 1459128930 440708 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1459128932 622768 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1459128934 480926 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1459128936 105910 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1459128937 350077 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1459129015 361101 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's chäkräs have been realigned < 1459129026 623272 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks so anyway < 1459129053 532030 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have ^^ < 1459129082 663403 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :now attaining SUPER SPIRITUAL POWER < 1459129096 349700 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can now transform into SUPER RDOCOC < 1459129117 115586 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are as many chäkräs as there are chaos emeralds < 1459129199 265539 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noun tautology originates from the Greek word tautologos, meaning “repeating what is said.” < 1459129201 494008 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1459129233 466764 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function () return function () return function (x, y) return function (z) return z end end end end < 1459129242 247575 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1459129295 363378 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-072.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1459129332 52916 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-072.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459129332 183291 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-072.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1459129335 463461 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tautologos it is < 1459129369 999620 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-072.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459129375 995674 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever happened to the editor? < 1459129387 154223 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the editing things bold, italic etc show up but I can still use them < 1459130379 786251 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: with my psychic powers i can see that the answer is... gremlins! < 1459130557 369560 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459130850 873781 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016! finally got to January 2016! < 1459130879 28992 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION GLASSWORK CHICKEN < 1459130892 478258 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION meant /quit. fried brain and all that sort of thing... < 1459130898 477415 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GLASSWORK CHICKEN < 1459130979 25788 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459131066 538605 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459131069 990992 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-072.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459131087 809036 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459131090 298173 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-072.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1459131210 784999 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm designing a language that compiles to JS, HTML, and CSS. I'm currently at functions, and I've come up with what I feel is a clever way to efficiently do curried functions while targeting JavaScript, with the bonus of keyword arguments < 1459131217 622467 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implicit Lambdas < 1459131260 15857 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given foo :: Int -> Float -> String -> Bool < 1459131271 713330 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And variable-length arguments < 1459131309 464109 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do something like bar = foo(\2, \1, "walrus") to get a functions bar :: Float -> Int -> Bool < 1459131333 453473 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can partially apply foo with bar = foo(9, 2.7| < 1459131359 742911 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then bar("s") == foo(9, 2.7, "s") < 1459131373 896014 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as pretty as Haskell, but it gets the job done(R) < 1459131384 26044 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459131580 976775 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459131612 9473 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459131629 589416 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I can't get HexChat to autoreplace (R) to the registered trademark symbol < 1459132042 480118 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: use the compose key < 1459132048 249899 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :compose + o + r < 1459132051 90931 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :® < 1459132067 773089 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459132302 717979 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1459132476 299259 :impomatic!~impomatic@129.26.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1459132787 432426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a part of TVMIDI specification: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/TVMIDI < 1459132828 222208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me any comment/question/suggestion/complaint. < 1459133165 17616 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459133743 432712 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459134066 961602 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459134792 717738 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1459135135 429623 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-faeytkiisaecjbor QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1459135407 776776 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rotary Turing Machine < 1459135418 371783 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a turing machine, but instead of a tape it's a spindle with rotors < 1459135445 584419 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can only transition the symbol to one of two other symbols (or one other symbol) < 1459135448 738864 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUCH more stupid < 1459135457 176372 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Brainfuck is a good example) < 1459135809 461473 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not tc < 1459135816 280575 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a turing machine < 1459136203 35891 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459136365 979083 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It isn't, correct. < 1459136397 236851 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Though if you allow the symbol to have no transition, it's at least TC for binary < 1459136418 198686 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because no transition is x -> x, while transition is x -> ~x < 1459136492 681164 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since whether a transition is taken is based off of the current symbol, you can make sure it maps to the correct symbol < 1459136493 572184 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1459136507 780837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What what? < 1459136528 886964 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TC for binary" <- what does this mean? < 1459136562 543710 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: *for a binary alphabet < 1459136575 378955 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Forgot to say "alphabet" < 1459136624 190657 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Because a 3-state binary TM is TC, so a 3-state rotary TM with a no-transition option and a binary alphabet is also TC < 1459136644 370578 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullshit < 1459136658 734862 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :your memory is finite < 1459136676 222674 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Did I not imply that the spindle is infinite? < 1459136686 813616 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's not just one rotor, it's an infinite spindle of rotors < 1459136702 998713 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I thought I said that... < 1459136705 843267 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, we're back to the usual nonsense < 1459136711 822971 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Yeah, we are < 1459136723 900903 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I was thinking about the Enigma, so I came up with this < 1459136761 750941 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Be glad it doesn't have rollover. < 1459136771 249606 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop highlighting me < 1459136776 709850 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1459136785 698817 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also the switchboard machine, which is most certainly not turing-complete) < 1459136804 65588 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I almost highlighted you with "OK" xD) < 1459136818 432076 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have ignored you < 1459136874 622495 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would have been by mistaek < 1459136879 612404 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an accident. < 1459137239 853814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07The Abstract Computer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46668&oldid=46637 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10Capitalization < 1459138229 249420 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459139115 970816 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1459139200 471605 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbayautyvayufxmu JOIN :#esoteric < 1459142687 994083 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathoverflow.net/a/53738 < 1459143654 218941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen that before < 1459144276 912104 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it's a good day when your upgrade includes the Erlang manpages < 1459144282 521697 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you haven't touched erlang in years < 1459144418 447413 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlang sounds like a language based on indecision < 1459144434 463419 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... er... eeeh... < 1459144453 144092 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make that language < 1459144460 13986 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be called Errlang < 1459144466 298554 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you think it's about error handling < 1459144478 674673 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should the syntax be like? errr < 1459144555 472824 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459144654 143696 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's like what if an "if" statement actually executes both paths and then decides which one to kkep at the end? < 1459144669 578120 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's indecisive < 1459144725 857838 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1459144730 634450 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`metar CYYZ < 1459144744 205565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: metar: not found < 1459144745 693667 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hah! I'm not near YYZ < 1459144753 685370 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1459144754 5209 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 280555Z 06003KT 15SM TS SCT035CB OVC100 08/04 A2964 RMK CB3AC5 FRQT LTGIC W-NW PRESFR SLP044 < 1459144774 39390 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CYKF is closer to my usual haunt anyway) < 1459144820 934145 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in yyz and i was wondering if the rumble I just heard was thunder or some asshole's loud bike < 1459144845 44203 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1459144847 471295 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you in yyz? < 1459144853 652656 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459144978 30619 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459145019 377970 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live in yyz < 1459145162 407590 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1459145162 683128 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 280550Z 15018KT CAVOK 07/M03 Q0995 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 16022KT < 1459145395 501830 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: wait really < 1459145398 817015 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have we never met up < 1459145446 785261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1459145447 57117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 280553Z 27011KT 10SM SCT160 13/07 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP164 T01330067 10167 20128 58001 < 1459145454 741738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSEA < 1459145455 1807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSEA 280553Z 16004KT 10SM FEW060 05/03 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP202 60007 T00500033 10100 20050 51011 < 1459147813 193660 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459148505 202764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A chess problem: 1r5K/6PP/8/8/8/1k4q1/6P1/8 = < 1459149059 770865 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459149091 347033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one: 8/5KP1/7k/8/6P1/8/8/8 #3 < 1459149927 843929 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459151443 297798 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459151552 214578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It isn't very complicated) < 1459151691 294270 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1459151779 770089 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459153154 625306 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1459153548 226298 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1459156188 302961 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459157807 666574 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459159309 147757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A book called "Encyclopedia of absolute and relative knowledge" contains some lies about chess. It claims that Chaturanga is an ancestor of chess, cards, and dominoes, and that it used dice with four symbols of four Indian castes: swords=warriors, sticks=peasants, cups=priests, coins=merchants. It also claims that the four card suits are somehow linked to the four DNA nucleotides. < 1459159537 669218 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1459159708 197823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that is complete nonsense. Indian cards do not use Latin suits, and the game of Chaturanga does not even use dice. (A different game, called Chaturaji, does use dice, although they have the numbers 2 to 5 and not the Latin card suits.) < 1459159847 43601 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:913f:4d6f:1813:5363 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459161676 988602 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459162298 930201 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459162555 953065 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459164634 872572 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, “check each bean individually” < 1459165853 989672 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459165964 652876 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459166643 894161 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :more loke encyclopedia of absolute stupidity < 1459166911 897188 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like* < 1459167230 288287 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of how to do an ifEqual(x, y, trueCase, falseCase) in Tautologos < 1459167276 623911 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459167320 239200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stupidity < 1459167340 244649 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? intelligence < 1459167342 332121 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part of "relative knowledge" is so hard to understand? < 1459167347 228404 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs. < 1459167349 911070 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1459167358 334643 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :relative knowledge is fake? < 1459167375 609642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459167375 742639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intelligence? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459167381 552212 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1459167409 569477 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1459167428 335596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Intelligence is a scarce resource that is distributed by the CIA. < 1459167429 175881 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there is an alternate universe < 1459167433 232444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'intelligence': Intelligence is a scarce resource that is distributed by the CIA. < 1459167457 482864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cia < 1459167458 465004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459167466 386739 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1459167476 111240 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Stupidity is created when people are too lazy to think correctly. < 1459167478 800809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'stupidity': Stupidity is created when people are too lazy to think correctly. < 1459167632 306902 :liu!~liu@117.41.246.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459169256 663815 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459169349 119230 :liu!~liu@117.41.246.6 QUIT :Quit: 离开 < 1459170212 620172 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1459170312 720046 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: storm < 1459170723 939712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459170791 665606 :tromp!~tromp@216.223.243.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459170792 434775 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459171643 664320 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1459171673 12873 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459172327 63347 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459172438 227627 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjann hellørjanne! GG! < 1459172438 395325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1459172596 988097 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1459172627 925024 :Reece!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459172712 297746 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1459174184 362913 :Reece!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1459174209 925965 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459174671 623990 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459174917 677397 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1459175235 657910 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tick tock < 1459175456 9136 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459175456 608862 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdocelloc. tick tock? < 1459175550 55337 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459175791 993655 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459175946 615121 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459176216 897113 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1459176220 149651 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boiloclock < 1459176301 745915 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime rdococ < 1459176330 621066 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime boily < 1459176331 55921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for boily is Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:45:30 -0400 < 1459176338 789137 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0400? < 1459176339 936214 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1459176346 654533 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many americans can there be < 1459176358 380062 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the future sucks < 1459176361 807538 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I go back to the past < 1459176570 690371 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not American, I'm Canadian, eh? < 1459176585 799067 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1459176591 184306 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles rdococ < 1459176598 134123 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1459176603 83870 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a mapole < 1459176606 939563 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1459176619 951148 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a great big maple stick. it's very useful to thwack people :D < 1459176620 667113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1459176626 382484 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tautologoses boily < 1459176683 683852 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you live in the future, I guess you're European? < 1459177178 79953 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, all < 1459177249 282539 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tautologos14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46669 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+2709) 10We must go deeper. < 1459177258 747648 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1459177265 74173 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new, unimplemented programming language < 1459177276 453531 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a boy! wait, programming languages don't have gender < 1459177307 992144 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write up an article on COMPLEX < 1459177327 121357 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, atleast they're not slightly modified versions of brain**** < 1459177332 821976 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. what's COMPLEX? < 1459177358 608890 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course programming languages have gender. «un langage de programmation» is masculine. < 1459177397 749839 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it's french? < 1459177405 61642 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so what would be feminine? < 1459177428 673883 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it's a BASIC-inspired programming language that lets you manipulate the vector the program counter is moving on, onto the complex plane < 1459177436 645953 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, inserting gender stereotypes, my least favourite thing into my favourite thing < 1459177482 769134 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Programmiersprache" is feminine < 1459177496 476756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46670&oldid=46462 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+17) 10 < 1459177516 557564 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hellochaf. which gender is a programming language in Hebrew? < 1459177527 447288 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "programming language" is feminine and "a programming language" is masculine < 1459177529 186173 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: go against the grain! < 1459177543 545089 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :clap clap clap, making masculine programming languages look more expendable < 1459177561 202009 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, according to my wiktionarying, feminine < 1459177590 849088 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages have no gender < 1459177601 492654 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not adding a stupid thing called gender into the purity of programming < 1459177607 651620 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's something else disguised as danger < 1459177612 452828 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean gender* < 1459177627 849606 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna guess English is your first language < 1459177648 155480 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1459177665 628937 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're talking about language, not the programming language itself as a concept < 1459177748 18971 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, would you say le Haskell? Or la Haskell? Or is my poor knowlege of French letting me down < 1459177809 226859 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, anyway, there's an explanation of COMPLEX on my esolangs page https://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/esolangs.html < 1459177820 475595 :tromp!~tromp@216.223.243.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it's le Haskell Curry < 1459177824 873356 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«du Haskell». it's still masculine, but partitive because it's an unquantifiable abstract concept. < 1459177855 221069 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: does it have an h aspiré? < 1459177866 134774 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459177911 970757 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1459177953 126456 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: looks like so. English name, English is of Germanic origin, h aspiré by default. < 1459178307 919448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1459178310 872017 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMPLEX < 1459178410 872358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, language is complex < 1459178425 447978 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :complexicated < 1459178545 66336 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC stands for "Beginners' All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code" < 1459178625 979840 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMPLEX, as I've used it, is short for "COMPutational Language EXtension" < 1459178890 26396 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459178909 877230 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459179169 537277 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I look at the contents of another esolang's page so I can make a table? < 1459179230 721519 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, nevermind < 1459179663 945371 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459179709 165886 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459179779 995258 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459179975 67761 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459180115 818210 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459180521 716028 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459180685 561021 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply looking at articles that talk about BASIC make me want to program in it < 1459180725 53568 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always get this weird version of nostalgia when I see stuff like that, even though I haven't even touched it before < 1459180822 587321 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here < 1459180928 652069 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only I could get an old computer... < 1459180959 743952 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they need to re-introduce the language < 1459180971 23039 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :into schools < 1459180977 607894 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do schools even do programming?) < 1459181076 574531 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( excel and html ) < 1459181080 930757 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1459181160 775180 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the school, really. we did LOGO when I was in elementary. < 1459181176 504390 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turtle graphics on old 486es for the win! < 1459181324 301019 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459181335 548914 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbayautyvayufxmu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1459181712 47878 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see... how about Bavaria, Germany... grade 9: spread sheets, databases, grade 10: object oriented programming, grade 11: recursive data structures, software engineering, grade 12: formal languages, process communication and synchronization, computer architecture, limits of computability < 1459181969 70229 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not for me < 1459181987 111204 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I didn't do any programming in school < 1459182000 363724 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I have high functioning autism, they put me in a special school, and they don't even teach algebra at year 7/8/9 < 1459182004 79400 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first programming I did was using an online Piet editor and interpreter < 1459182043 313906 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it this way - I'm smarter than students of my age, and then I get put into a dumber school < 1459182073 908341 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: somehow doesn't seem like the typical way to start :) < 1459182077 928312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it goes back further under a different headline. grade 7 introduces Internet, E-mail (briefly), and Algorithms, and grade 6 has representation of information, and office software and file systems, < 1459182100 559968 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yeah, I've never picked up some important habits < 1459182116 526948 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like comments, and useful variable names < 1459182126 526518 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Piet was the first programming language I learnt < 1459182126 715214 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you find yourself trying to paint in other languages? < 1459182132 181559 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, all the time < 1459182184 674001 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what? but piet is IDEAL for writing comments < 1459182196 199170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even lets you make the comments pretty < 1459182210 570506 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, it's hard to write a pixel at a time < 1459182214 6334 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they have some limited exposure to programming in grade 7. < 1459182266 383165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no it's not! that's how people wrote all the books with pens and inscribed all the engravings to stone before printing and typewriters were invented. < 1459182277 831068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basic imperative programming... then some OO... anything else they'll have to pick up outside of school) < 1459182287 182622 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whatever. it used to be worse. < 1459182344 133183 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and spreadsheets are a form of declarative programming, of course, though rather limited < 1459182379 26842 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about? I'm year 8 and I barely get exposure to computers < 1459182400 599929 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't take it anymore, I want to do something interesting < 1459182426 988775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: yes, that sucks, but at least it's better than back when you also didn't have the internet to talk to other people about it < 1459182437 929971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of children suffered from that < 1459182449 502003 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1459182457 480575 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :go learn stuff online and do something interesting < 1459182465 739446 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to < 1459182500 393111 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, browser based version of BASIC? this might work < 1459182511 16781 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I was talking about one concrete curriculum that I found online. < 1459182533 66679 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: now I wish I was german < 1459182573 247388 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even inside Germany there will be differences. < 1459182615 980241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since ridiculously education isn't managed on a federal level but on the state level) < 1459182674 157053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that ridiculous? < 1459182685 119217 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sorry, I shouldn't ask that < 1459182721 570771 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm temporally shifted in spacetime < 1459182732 882533 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"remembering" the past before I was born < 1459182846 25672 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:913f:4d6f:1813:5363 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459182946 764936 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Maybe two points... it makes moving within Germany unecessarily hard on children, and it leads to different standards of education in the various states (a lot of which can be explained by budget concerns) < 1459183023 65024 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do realize that a centralized system would at best solve half of that problem... < 1459183220 125597 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459183366 947179 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1459183478 77084 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459183522 957395 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459183532 962846 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459184811 662181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "language" is feminine hth < 1459185098 730376 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people give random words gender < 1459185099 947716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: “langue” is feminine but “langage” is masculine and “dialecte” is masculin too < 1459185213 58614 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: they're not gender, they're grammatical gender. not the same. < 1459185358 776191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rdococ < 1459185384 62659 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1459185384 193161 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1459185700 41927 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1459185704 275650 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1459185709 941797 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only made one language like that < 1459185746 369990 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you count the "Beginners' All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code, Esoteric Revision" which I'm making the article for right now < 1459186087 507636 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits rdococ < 1459186095 392596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/rdococ < 1459186112 947427 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: come on, this is easy! < 1459186159 949972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION twiddles HackEgo's virtual thumbs. < 1459186160 281385 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1459186166 488417 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459186172 202052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459186200 324643 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1459186242 414688 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from me, who else is known to have created a new esoteric programming language by mistake of misunderstanding another programming language? < 1459186273 542317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/rdococ rdococlikestomakelanguageslikethis < 1459186276 209916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459186320 608317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITWASAPREDICTIONANDITWASRIGHT!ALLHAILOERJANTHEPRESCIENTMASTEROF#ESOTERIC! < 1459186347 373903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have not done, but I cannot remember. I also do not believe anyone else has done although perhaps that also I did not remember. < 1459186376 795940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I suppose it actually was somebody else... hmmmmm) < 1459186396 526474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BancSTAR could be such a language of course, we don't know < 1459186405 284473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, our version of BANCStar < 1459186407 80532 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rdococ < 1459186408 462100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1459186420 644895 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/rdococ RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1459186421 632562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/rdococ RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS': No such file or directory < 1459186475 180062 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it wasn't... fun. oerjan still had to learn how to use le/rn. < 1459186481 810429 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: you are wisdommed. you can't be erased. accept the assimilation. < 1459186494 574074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am wisdommed too < 1459186496 23770 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1459186497 496308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. < 1459186498 421406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1459186501 907364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1459186537 840233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible that some things on the esolang wiki about BANCStar are wrong. There is some that I believe is certainly wrong; I have posted what I believe is correct. < 1459186547 250986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But possibly I am also wrong) < 1459186550 680564 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't fight the wisdom. Embrace it! < 1459186565 443839 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION embraces his inner non-swedishness. < 1459186587 74050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spell < 1459186587 878126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spell? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459186628 536092 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1459186629 619411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459186659 647772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to be the only spell in there < 1459186662 970361 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for trying to make a Sonic game in a web browser version of BASIC < 1459186672 619190 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? regress < 1459186672 919261 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xyzzy < 1459186674 602983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing happens. < 1459186678 693020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regress? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459186687 386127 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? frotz < 1459186689 825785 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frotz? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459186701 479203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zork < 1459186703 199018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zork is like York, except for the first letter. < 1459186713 145008 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant insight < 1459186732 217761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own conclusions come from looking at existing BANCStar programs, rather than looking at the codes for the program to generate the printout < 1459186745 348119 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xargs < 1459186745 478509 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once cast, a spell can be undone. But once created, a wisdom entry can never again be erased. – Pontifex, elder researcher < 1459186746 210456 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs is for piping snowmen. < 1459186776 257998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, my own guess is that command 3100 seems to mean that if the condition is not true then it is an error and the user must rekey the input. < 1459186855 336698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1459186855 598844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 281720Z 12014G26KT 090V170 9999 FEW070 BKN300 14/03 Q1006 NOSIG < 1459186862 797150 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any screenshots, examples, videos or captures of a BANCStar programme running? < 1459186872 320914 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1459186872 619939 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 281737Z 14016KT 2 1/4SM -DZ BR SCT009 OVC014 07/06 A2944 RMK SF3ST5 SLP973 < 1459186882 807612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the code that "only ten people in the world can read", which I have partially figured out and guessed at the rest. < 1459186887 910384 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-DZ BR... more like it was pouring a few minutes ago. < 1459186907 101450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I do not know of any screenshots < 1459186907 973237 :Reece!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459186921 565506 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :brrrr? < 1459186939 254735 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's warm today! +7 °C! < 1459186942 513316 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do nested arrays in Quite BASIC? < 1459186950 255568 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did mist become BR, hmm. < 1459186951 705948 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does BASIC even have nested arrays? < 1459186960 961496 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, at least Turbo BASIC. < 1459186965 140902 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, interesting < 1459186971 796201 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BR, Mist (French: Brume)" < 1459186983 993163 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459186985 976602 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The French strike again. < 1459186995 607446 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course! we're everywhere! < 1459187076 818214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46671&oldid=45551 5* 03B jonas 5* (+164) 10 < 1459187170 261139 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46672&oldid=45479 5* 03B jonas 5* (+124) 10 < 1459187248 121229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus Severus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46673&oldid=45521 5* 03B jonas 5* (+149) 10 < 1459187305 228228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should give a name to the original language of David so I can talk about it. What should I name it? < 1459187322 894322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also believe that colour codes are actually PC codes and not ANSI codes; I don't know why they wrote that it is ANSI codes < 1459187337 805040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: David Language < 1459187354 996062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, there's at least one other esoteric programming language by David Madore < 1459187384 177703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plus he has his own slightly esoteric dialect of French) < 1459187489 605002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I didn't know that < 1459187499 893535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: he invented Unlambda < 1459187504 660946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask David Madore (if possible) < 1459187517 703769 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is possible, yes < 1459187548 908108 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: REPLICATE CHICKEN < 1459187635 767029 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1459187650 188763 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: storm < 1459187684 652657 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does there exist a double-ended toothbrush that has a brush head on both ends of the same handle? < 1459187685 648461 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459187727 369330 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems there are double toothbrushes that have two heads on the same end of the handle < 1459187755 47069 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459187776 573843 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1459187792 126677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems such a thing exists: https://groomies.es/es/dientes/958-cepillo-de-dientes-doble-extra-largo.html < 1459187798 244068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's either crazy or esoteric < 1459187880 144151 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-112-207.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459188022 182204 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so can you find a four-headed one? < 1459188091 643777 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And why stop at that? you can go all Lucas and make a cross of toothbrushes!) < 1459188111 388440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a swiss army knife! < 1459188201 58041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, or a whole toothbrush tree < 1459188235 18008 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1186.html with infinitely many heads < 1459188453 963359 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459188482 664940 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1459188513 200662 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-112-207.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1459188618 459091 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459188836 957347 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-097-181.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459188934 667946 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid n+1 step processes < 1459189027 50271 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(something along the lines of "submit review" - "confirm review" ... apparently I expect that to be one step (especially since the previous dialog already offered me things like saving a draft)) < 1459189135 353185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should check what I wrote in the [[Amycus]] article and tell how much of that is nonsense < 1459189203 947324 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459189550 920199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those writeups should be rewritten though because they still contain sentences based on the origianl misunderstanding. < 1459189573 521966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't rewrite them if I can't refer to the original language! Argh < 1459190207 305183 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(having to write the line numbers manually is a bit of a pain when I need to add lines in between lines) < 1459190236 978806 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, that's why COMPLEX lets you write the lines in any order you want! < 1459190277 658347 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean because I have to change each line number < 1459190313 226754 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you leave gaps in the line numbers? < 1459190349 330031 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BASIC I grew up with used line numbers 10,20,30,... by default so that one could easily insert lines later < 1459190418 547288 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1459190428 468106 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas the APL del editor lets you use non-integer line numbers, but the line numbers are only temporary, and they're reassigned with sequential numbers when you exit the del editor (or more like they're assigned when you enter the del editor, and only the sorted sequence of lines are saved when you exit it). < 1459190438 319597 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then when the gaps are differentin length < 1459190515 497637 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this APL del editor software or is it from when basic was taught in schools? < 1459190551 708038 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459190601 426263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's… um, part of the APL workspace software, just like how the line editor is part of most BASIC interpreters, and … well, it's probably older than BASIC taught in schools < 1459190647 833557 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL is a programming language from back when they didn't really know what programming languages ought to look like < 1459190659 616398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? apl < 1459190659 888536 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when to program you plugged your phone into your typewriter < 1459190681 671633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. < 1459190688 935394 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did you actually have to plug a phone into the typewriter? < 1459190699 595401 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd have to be a telephone or something, I know that much < 1459190705 357218 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I just talking crazy < 1459190705 833671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1459190709 889181 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, yeah, because computers were huge big things that took up a room < 1459190712 61158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the young ones < 1459190719 840947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1459190723 447840 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that < 1459190729 505649 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you rang the computer and plugged in your typewriter < 1459190737 656789 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :An electric typewriter, of course < 1459190742 66431 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459190742 879710 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you rang the computer...? < 1459190746 671215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rolls his eyes. < 1459190748 137132 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1459190751 988506 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh okay < 1459190770 641515 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, APL is going back a long time < 1459190792 13616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: computers were expensive, so people used them remotely. by means of a terminal, which is the same as a telex machine, and is an electromechanical or electrical typewriter with a keyboard and either a printer or a CRT display or both, connected to a modem < 1459190792 184724 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1459190795 511366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of five genders, and voluminous but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1459190836 954217 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't seen elliott in ages :/ < 1459190837 950728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the modem transmits data through an analog telephone wire connected by the ordinary telephone network, plus the terminal may also have a ticker tape reader and puncher. < 1459190840 375430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: why go to all that trouble when you can just hand the operators a stack of punched cards? < 1459190858 909109 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a Sonic game in BASIC... or at least something close < 1459190882 684751 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course it's a modern version -- no, not visual basic < 1459190893 899104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the computer is in a remote location, and the telex transmits the data faster to such a remote location than any other way you could transmit the punch cards or ticker tape < 1459190894 205842 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1459190896 258523 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found this < 1459190897 303189 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.quitebasic.com/ < 1459190905 532559 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459190914 16751 :Reece!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459190930 413415 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some things I don't understand about terminals though < 1459190996 129586 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1459191001 225750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. why are they called both terminals and telex machines and what's the difference, 2. how the fuck can an electromechanical typewriter do all the modem stuff without electronics, and 3. why did they even bother with electromechanics when electronics were already available by the time the terminals were created. < 1459191016 58003 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459191055 6392 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is telex an old version of fax or something? < 1459191064 508236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, they just repurposed telegraphy service devices... that's what telex machines are. < 1459191072 914087 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... < 1459191107 968517 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"terminal" is just a different view on the topology... it's not, say, a repeater connecting two lines, but and end point. < 1459191116 401743 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1459191123 903167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: sort of, but a telex transmits character data (where a character means 5 or 7 or 6 or 8 bits) whereas a fax transmits bitmap graphical data. both were used as sort of improved versions of telegraphy. < 1459191193 679287 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telex helps with terminology (terminalogy?) < 1459191196 512034 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1459191213 685957 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax is a newer invention < 1459191227 250745 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we should really call the machines teletypes < 1459191321 193743 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly (haha), wikipedia is inconsistent on this < 1459191324 197302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when we were young, telephone books contained telefax (fax) and telex numbers too, because some businesses and offices ran such machines, and they're connected to the ordinary telephone network. Today, there are no printed telephone books, and no telex network. < 1459191339 309485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the Telegraphy page, they write "These machines were called "Telex" (TELegraph EXchange)." < 1459191407 611285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and we have paperless offices where fax machines are virtualized and soon phased out... < 1459191425 438238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, paperless offices where people print and then scan the emails they get. < 1459191458 491306 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Btw, this channel sometimes makes it hard to separate fact from fiction. < 1459191464 980401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the paperless parts never really works out well. < 1459191472 418459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? paperless < 1459191475 204547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paperless? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459191486 72407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries not to make the obvious joke < 1459191529 895880 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"send an email, but fax a copy in case they don't read email, and send a letter as well so that they have a clean copy for the archives" < 1459191547 516845 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure where this is from... Dilbert?) < 1459191571 777035 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-12-11 < 1459191591 108419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 years later I suspect this is still true. < 1459191725 989677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hehe. yes < 1459193217 114043 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn paperless/In a paperless world, rock would never lose. < 1459193224 45108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «paperless» < 1459193295 745375 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1459193616 274416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : Someone else I know, although an atheist, said that if he made up the laws he would say that Canada is the Christian country, only for the purpose of the calendar. I am not sure that is necessary, since they are already national holidays, although maybe I missed something. < 1459193719 557930 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459193736 246297 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459195310 208387 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459195401 211482 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1459195593 902146 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459196227 800522 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459196278 526121 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1459196298 682006 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459196608 657649 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1459196656 382641 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459196703 862306 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand why people were depending on an external host to have a left pad function < 1459196736 777949 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-117-223.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459196757 646427 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1459196759 616506 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because people who use JavaScript for non-web are not the best at system architecture < 1459196800 502950 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1459196859 542379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: huh what? what's this about this time? < 1459196894 31287 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-117-223.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459196900 947599 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-117-223.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1459196903 441126 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` printf %70s "left pad function" < 1459196906 840114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ left pad function < 1459196969 80167 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, a lot of Node programmers got their projects broken when someone threw a tantrum and removed a package from npm < 1459196983 113581 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said package was 11 lines long and just provided a left pad function < 1459196999 852498 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's npm? < 1459197039 552795 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node.js package manager < 1459197049 16397 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Hackage or crates.io or something < 1459197068 328977 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1459197165 744625 :x_!~x@net-188-218-223-252.cust.vodafonedsl.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1459197238 28046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459197393 432916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can easily implement a left pad function in one line of a JavaScript code: const leftpad=(x,y,z)=>(z.repeat(y)+x).slice(-y); < 1459197413 657354 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459197428 716923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I imagine that's a little inefficient as you generate the string of y zs regardless of what the input is < 1459197437 642039 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thatjs way to performant < 1459197438 684081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, that seems like a good demonstration of how simple the function is < 1459197441 162615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have some Node.js packages too < 1459197443 427661 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1459197449 8988 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn NICK :lynn < 1459197484 776981 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that depens on what string concatenation and repeat are doing < 1459197503 537210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: this is unlikely as an optimization < 1459197510 36426 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it string + string always needs to copy anything it would be really slow < 1459197586 614784 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :padding an empty string would be n^2 then < 1459197595 667011 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat cannot be worse than that < 1459197702 950312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I can't see deleted templates on Wikipedia (other than via WP:REFUND which seems rather a waste of admin time), but a) it seems likely, b) the template is unused and probably not useful, c) the template is buggy, d) the template may be uncopyrightable because there's no other sensible way to write its functionality < 1459197703 119676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1459197739 452092 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if repeat isn't implemented completely stupid it would need O(y) time + one concat + O(y) slice < 1459197755 797288 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other version needs O(y) concats < 1459197776 784648 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming that concat is slow, zzo38's version is way faster < 1459197777 467216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: concat may be O(a) time rather than O(a+b) time where the lengths of the strings are a and b < 1459197793 715383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I'm not talking about the original left-pad, that one is probably really slow < 1459197800 498403 :jaboja!~jaboja@eju181.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459197805 127539 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1459198045 294993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can DVD-video support text captions? What happen if you record a TV show with captions on a DVD? < 1459198073 633073 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what captions? < 1459198073 837783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think it can support text captions, and I don't know < 1459198092 725595 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, most DVD recorders I believe take it out of the display, which will include captions if they are displayed at the time of recording < 1459198142 340118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: The DVD recorder I have does have the ability to display captions. < 1459198195 406609 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean if it can support text captions which are separate from subtitles < 1459198281 554706 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, they're separate from subtitles... < 1459198282 92561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1459198358 958835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captions are text and subtitles are pictures. This means that it is possible to customize the settings for font size and colours of captions. < 1459198380 282247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for subtitles you have to use whatever font is recorded on the disc instead. < 1459198456 191914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own opinion is that only captions should be used and subtitles should not be used except possibly for compatibility purpose. < 1459198560 234355 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459198601 344650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a webpage for a computer program, and it says that DVDs do support captions. < 1459198657 220992 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1459198848 823013 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459198999 768164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any show have captions for the descriptive video in addition to the normal speech? < 1459199197 45465 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459199271 485752 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1459199273 67746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd nvd Fiora Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1459199280 567608 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1459199287 999509 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the only person on that list who'st actually in here < 1459199293 682986 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm most of the list < 1459199323 325002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's called solipsism list < 1459199416 816246 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1459199428 575038 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459199445 937435 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-112-207.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459199449 52525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? atriq < 1459199450 8319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two < 1459199460 988337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1459199462 353896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of five genders, and voluminous but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1459199475 365575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5**(1/3) < 1459199476 900734 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.7099759466766968 < 1459199496 733071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1459199498 13268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, robots, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1459199519 276341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like maybe that wisdom entry should rhyme. < 1459199519 807242 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1459199524 976332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To some Gilbert & Sullivan tune, perhaps. < 1459199550 549315 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1459199565 656183 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459199571 50771 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I keep working on my Sonic attempt in Quite BASIC? < 1459199580 463398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazpacho < 1459199582 249128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1459199599 955336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tanebvention < 1459199605 585253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf b_jonas oerjan shachaf shachaf boily boily shachaf oerjan oerjan Taneb oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan FireFly oerjan boily oerjan ais523 ais523 oerjan < 1459199666 834872 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspacho < 1459199669 363699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gaspacho and I like Gazpacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1459199674 618174 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1459199687 491258 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rdococ < 1459199689 116339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1459199696 102840 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdochellloc. the szoups are complex. please consult the Wisdom PDF hth < 1459199705 374119 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wat < 1459199706 612969 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ought to retopic the PDF... < 1459199710 384392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pdf isn't even real < 1459199711 682557 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: just a moment... < 1459199713 488561 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :rewhat < 1459199714 328687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been photoszouped < 1459199720 359712 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :photowhat < 1459199721 416012 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS REAL! REALER THAN CANADA! EH! < 1459199726 311979 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :realerwhat < 1459199730 190566 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heretichaf. < 1459199754 967437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: shachaf mipesha hth < 1459199795 106280 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyhqyvy3i8oh25m/wisdom.pdf?dl=0 < 1459199817 423149 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(warning: may not be quite exactly up to date at all. I'm several months out of touch with the latest installments.) < 1459199820 336001 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hth) < 1459199890 400574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you demaur it yet hth < 1459199964 970977 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1459199984 296543 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459199989 376196 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459199990 480821 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1459200029 401138 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn NICK :lynn < 1459200058 891678 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`source < 1459200059 730321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: source: not found < 1459200062 755751 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1459200063 367688 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1459200176 900880 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style sms < 1459200177 31267 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: sms (National University of Singapore SMS corpus, 2011-08-20) < 1459200185 495072 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nlghtn us < 1459200185 630360 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in one min. soon < 1459200196 221534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1459200196 351989 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1459200269 716281 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459200329 524500 :x_!~x@net-188-218-223-252.cust.vodafonedsl.it QUIT :Quit: Sto andando via < 1459200333 583601 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think so hth < 1459200382 391225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn_: is "demure" a good adjective for you < 1459200474 295553 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1459200475 564068 :lynn__!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459200476 572292 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote demure < 1459200480 785396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459200627 675558 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1459200666 249314 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote murder < 1459200667 163472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :130) Phantom_Hoover: Don't be nasty; he's a lunatic, not a murderer. \ 271) elliott, it was an artful robbery! wait, murder \ 753) you've constructed a situation in which i have no choice but to die in 10 days well done that's murder \ 1080) Even if the people who made that program is a m < 1459200674 848338 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn__ is emulating Phantom_________Hoover... < 1459200675 632166 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459200684 755439 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: hellynn. connection problems? < 1459200703 684716 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really horrible ones ;___; < 1459200738 929781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even lynn's ascii face is emulating Phantom_________Hoover < 1459200755 243884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming that's a face, i don't really know how to read those things < 1459200810 295477 :lynn__!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1459200859 907501 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's secret code in a secret programming language? ___;_;____;;; < 1459200865 991325 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ◇ < 1459200866 862049 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459200874 898785 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. wrong unicode diamond. < 1459200910 629381 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Client Quit < 1459200913 498633 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ________ < 1459200914 151946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1010) ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1459200941 728787 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :◇◇ < 1459200946 471708 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ◊ < 1459200947 249953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1010) ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1459200959 17910 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rdococ < 1459200959 821588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1238) what? I just wanted a laugh... lol I need to stop using lol, lol just stop then, hth < 1459200963 20496 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhujwqkbyrjybxgu JOIN :#esoteric < 1459200978 637544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol lol < 1459200986 66628 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhujwqkbyrjybxgu NICK :Guest57498 < 1459201033 821004 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest57498: don't you dare die on us! < 1459201047 497998 :Guest57498!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhujwqkbyrjybxgu NICK :lynn < 1459201057 26676 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhujwqkbyrjybxgu QUIT :Changing host < 1459201057 157030 :lynn!uid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1459201057 157103 :lynn!uid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1459201057 157121 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhujwqkbyrjybxgu JOIN :#esoteric < 1459201219 963516 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip lynn 20 times < 1459201261 789929 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhujwqkbyrjybxgu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I’m on some kinda cloud thing. So, that might work better? < 1459201435 396352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cloud < 1459201436 983877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloud? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459201533 428910 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The cloud is a server Blackhat guy runs, connected to the internet through a cable modem. There's a lot of caching. Cloud is also the shape of clouds. < 1459201538 928365 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cloud': The cloud is a server Blackhat guy runs, connected to the internet through a cable modem. There's a lot of caching. Cloud is also the shape of clouds. < 1459201691 572227 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. NSA is a kind of caching service. < 1459201733 563922 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1459201802 231548 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1459202046 227278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S6_(classification) wait, what < 1459203762 882229 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459203791 611752 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1459204049 970857 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I finally found the individually checked beans. That must be a fun way to pass time. < 1459204095 756136 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh heh < 1459204102 271271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun for who? < 1459204197 669058 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1459204201 251471 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hanners, of course. < 1459204228 603978 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, at least until she finds a bad bean.) < 1459204355 871144 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459205036 539555 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459205575 21678 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1459205995 525997 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459206049 555158 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1459206049 685572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 said 2h 19m 6s ago: I can't see deleted templates on Wikipedia (other than via WP:REFUND which seems rather a waste of admin time), but a) it seems likely, b) the template is unused and probably not useful, c) the template is buggy, d) the template may be uncopyrightable because there's no other sensible way to write its functionality < 1459206096 811395 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION interprets (d) as an excuse to do nothing hth < 1459206155 284294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's also unused and I can't see an obvious use for it < 1459206163 284079 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you patent a wikipedia template < 1459206172 751059 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1459206202 380626 :jaboja!~jaboja@eju181.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459206466 63354 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: since when has that been a reason to delete anything on our wiki :P < 1459206478 894347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in terms of articles or templates? :P < 1459206491 652661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates are kind of meta-stuff, they have different topicality rules < 1459206555 995146 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey don't ruin the joke with details < 1459206570 819357 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-67-227-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1459206596 924042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought you were trying to use sarcasm to make as serious point < 1459206659 640301 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459206670 956699 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1459206818 743182 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cia < 1459206820 811966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459206831 43058 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn CIA sees it all. < 1459206833 219481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cia': CIA sees it all. < 1459206862 106242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it stood for cookies in advance < 1459206866 51253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next level of thanks in advance < 1459207018 421937 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stupidity < 1459207019 777996 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupidity is created when people are too lazy to think correctly. < 1459207027 388206 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is somehow meta. < 1459207039 734905 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly in two different ways. < 1459207263 863925 :gde33!~Gaby@541C5A92.cm-5-5b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459207297 504643 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459207297 779967 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? meta < 1459207298 847438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459207304 38733 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn meta is about < 1459207306 388733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'meta': meta is about < 1459207354 107869 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find -type f wisdom | wc -l < 1459207355 213279 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: paths must precede expression: wisdom \ Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression] \ 0 < 1459207364 584304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f | wc -l < 1459207369 121368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :900 < 1459207403 572304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f | xargs cat | wc -c < 1459207404 995742 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option \ cat: wisdom/¯(°_o)/¯(°_o)a: No such file or directory \ cat: wisdom/¯(°_o)/¯: No such file or directory \ cat: wisdom/for: No such file or directory \ cat: further: No such file or directory \ cat: details.: No such file or directory \ cat: w < 1459207410 430877 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @tell oerjann hellørjanne! GG! <-- helloily. poor oerjann will be so confused. < 1459207412 234996 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1459207419 192971 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 cat | wc -c < 1459207430 861348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10558299 < 1459207435 441647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Are you sure there are no files in wisdom/ containing newlines? < 1459207469 816938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, it seems fairly useless, but no, I'm not sure. < 1459207502 418507 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, that seems a bit big... < 1459207525 265430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -sR wisdom | sort -rn < 1459207527 239487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10240 irrelevant info \ 4 Э \ 4 э \ 4 αλτγρ+γ \ 4 zzo38mtg.php \ 4 zzo38mtg \ 4 zzo38card \ 4 zzo38 \ 4 zygohistomorphic prepromorphism \ 4 zork \ 4 zomgmodules \ 4 zombiecheney \ 4 zkstr \ 4 zimbabwe \ 4 yuy \ 4 york \ 4 yorick \ 4 yoda \ 4 yeeesh \ 4 yeeeesh \ < 1459207530 612713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat wisdom/irrelevant info < 1459207531 451953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/irrelevant: No such file or directory \ cat: info: No such file or directory < 1459207535 67346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1459207538 796609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/irrelevant info < 1459207539 460037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KHL?%y9vnkM_v46 $Tn`ʋxkH2gqH;!;2F(zإ2CmXW < 1459207543 905637 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459207545 829032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file wisdom/irrelevant info < 1459207546 779444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/irrelevant info: data < 1459207558 538038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log 'wisdom/irrelevant info' | grep summary: < 1459207560 823981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: cat /dev/urandom > wisdom/\'irrelevant info\' < 1459207565 981431 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/irrelevant info < 1459207566 755383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/irrelevant info < 1459207582 896218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1459207588 17116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan elliott Roujo < 1459207596 64459 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 cat | wc -c < 1459207602 344354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :72539 < 1459207611 660900 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, that's far more plausible. < 1459207623 645488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep summary: | grep Roujo < 1459207626 349278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: rm bin/f\x16\x16rink \ summary: echo "14484096/625 \\(exactly 23174.5536\\)" > bin/f\x16\x16rink \ summary: chmod +x bin/f\x16\x16rink \ summary: echo "14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536)" > bin/f\x16\x16rink \ summary: echo "cf. elliott" > wisdom/godot \ summary: echo " < 1459207633 302696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep summary: | grep Roujo | paste < 1459207643 53144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.4893 < 1459207796 743062 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1459207797 270772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: echo: not found < 1459207801 278711 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1459207812 528610 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1459207834 95868 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? godot < 1459207834 937400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. elliott < 1459207897 329050 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log?rev=Roujo&revcount=1000 ... < 1459207934 583676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's better than paste. < 1459207986 535754 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is to add the &revcount bit manually < 1459208013 104437 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the "more" and "less" links are broken) < 1459208029 267832 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are? < 1459208036 531553 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are. < 1459208059 722599 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1459208076 751595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1459208077 125005 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 282320Z 12010G20KT 070V160 9999 SCT050 BKN120 09/00 Q0991 RMK WIND 670FT 15016G30KT < 1459208085 139710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem all that icy < 1459208086 711057 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: spring is a-coming < 1459208095 78806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm joking i have no idea how to read metar hth) < 1459208112 467902 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you can read the 09/00 part? < 1459208112 983253 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i met a man on the road this evening who said it was unusually mild hth < 1459208125 773496 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1459208126 75739 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 282253Z 28018KT 10SM SCT020 17/03 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP117 T01670033 < 1459208126 449317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, but that doesn't tell me whether it's icy hth < 1459208131 106295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do they even have pigeons in norway? < 1459208135 324551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how about parks < 1459208142 875255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parks, for pooches. < 1459208148 321142 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: seems unlikely at 9 degrees celsius. < 1459208166 962974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1459208167 221616 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 282320Z AUTO 26004KT 230V300 9999 NCD 06/02 Q1010 < 1459208173 611098 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is considering putting on a non-winter jacket < 1459208182 950079 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a bit colder than I expected. < 1459208183 838473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1459208186 208226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1459208188 581463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 282324Z 36013KT 4SM -RA BR OVC004 04/03 A2939 RMK ST8 SLP956 \ ENVA 282320Z 12010G20KT 070V160 9999 SCT050 BKN120 09/00 Q0991 RMK WIND 670FT 15016G30KT \ ESSB 282320Z AUTO 13010KT 9999 BKN057/// 05/01 Q1002 \ KOAK 282253Z 28018KT 10SM SCT020 17/03 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP117 T01670033 < 1459208189 918588 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we have pigeons. also parks. sometimes coincidental. < 1459208246 679755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: poisoning pooches in the park? i hope not < 1459208318 25805 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this allude to "Taubenvergiften im Park"? < 1459208344 534798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that like http://www.xkcd.com/90/ ? < 1459208365 159108 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: poisoning? fungot no! < 1459208365 590537 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: all of those don't let you borrow zem. zem doesn't have win98 or a floppy drive or anything, it is woefully underpowered. < 1459208372 146442 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait pooches are just dogs in general? i was imagining it was some kind of silly breed. < 1459208381 170698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't know of the Tom Lehrer song. < 1459208389 906904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dogs in general are a silly breed hth < 1459208402 876832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, true < 1459208416 605547 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: which one? the Elements song? < 1459208424 602405 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't make any sense, do I? < 1459208428 414238 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459208450 575226 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the one about poisoning pigeons in the park < 1459208486 834665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, who is your nemesis? < 1459208486 979818 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i think mine predates yours" issue, and i < 1459208493 24136 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good < 1459208493 344452 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: now i was trying to say " no". the only client box is the 486. i cannot fnord it's the plural of " virus" < 1459208500 965957 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1459208507 18468 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is zem still woefully underpowered? < 1459208584 586607 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's always weird to look at a fungot message before checking the usernaem < 1459208584 731662 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it works on the structure of the configuration language.) < 1459208591 714017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it is indeed next to my winter jacket hth < 1459208617 382888 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That was pretty coherent, besides the trailing parenthesis. We're so proud of you. < 1459208617 625527 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is llama32 talking about loading .so files or something. i wonder what ( lambda ( data) expr)? < 1459208620 242042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whuh. < 1459208670 366367 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think python should add two new operators (or 3, with an optional 5 others based off of one of the 2) < 1459208676 928205 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The operators should be := and :: < 1459208678 53871 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ref. to fungot above < 1459208678 250629 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: " one toke? you poor fool! wait till you see part 2 of 3) < 1459208706 878570 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::= calls the left object's __assgn__ method, and :: calls the left object's __is_type__ method < 1459208712 840501 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be used for type-safe python < 1459208713 788067 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1459208713 918407 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1459208734 964243 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're more incoherent than usual, is anything wrong? < 1459208735 103869 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it uses ref counting, so cyclic data structures nor to hashes))) list) < 1459208739 19821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. No. < 1459208746 788587 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third operators is -> (which is right-associative) and calls the left object's __goesto__ method < 1459208752 947783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ah, false alarm then? good, good. < 1459208753 78287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the := bone is connected to the __assign__ bone / the :: bone is connected to the __is_type__ bone < 1459208753 78379 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think they're playing the fnord < 1459208762 557465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that line was hppavilion[1]. I thought it was fungot. < 1459208762 687799 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're not meant to be < 1459208768 885902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ouch < 1459208769 265625 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you on the net... bah. i worked in d.c., some people asked for it :) i'm sorry, i'm bored. want to hear < 1459208794 724525 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The optional 5 are :!=, :>, :<, :>=, and :<=, which are made to work like := but for things other than equality < 1459208801 926287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : the situation is: behind me sits a netware3 server with important data. the only client box is the 486. i cannot use the data that's on the server hd, there's not enough space to copy the data to the client hd, i cannot put an additional disk into the client because of the bios thing. < 1459208842 1327 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459208900 731266 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main usage cases for the first 3 are a library I'm calling "typesafe" which creates a dependent/algebraic/static typesystem for Python in pure python and a library called "constraints" which is like "typesafe" that puts constraints on values (such as a variable always being positive, or always being between 5 and 9) (this would also benefit from those optional 5) < 1459208945 779758 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's some old hard- and software... < 1459208966 557661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The line was from 2006. But it was pretty old even back then. < 1459209000 146419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mid 90s. < 1459209039 301436 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typesafe can be implemented in current python, and a library similar to constraints already exits, but has some issues because either you use an ugly syntax involving method calls (x.set(5)) or you use up certain important operators (x << 5) < 1459209044 688796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetWare 3 apparenty dates to 1990, while NetWare 4 dates to 1993. Not that everyone would've been migrating their systems. < 1459209051 629856 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um i didn't mean that line btw, there's one actually containing "zem". < 1459209074 153208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, there, I see. < 1459209103 335997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had actually completely forgotten zem, but I think zem's still in a closet somewhere, probably back in Finland. < 1459209116 430279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it'd count as even more woefully underpowered now. < 1459209137 174711 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: now all you have to do to have any chance of this happening is abduct guido van rossum and brainwash him. hth. < 1459209175 338173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though slightly less so than the 486.) < 1459209260 680782 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why? xD < 1459209262 262698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that's a combination of quite many lines. < 1459209268 800597 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it because he hates static typing? < 1459209302 378012 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because what you're suggesting is pretty against his python philosophy afaict. < 1459209319 22191 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he probably also hates static typing, i'm not sure. < 1459209321 197616 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In what parts? < 1459209352 371092 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the parts where you want to define operators that are synonyms for more readable features already existing. < 1459209361 760875 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What about @ in 3.5? < 1459209380 60909 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'd say the operators would be more readable < 1459209400 336836 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It would be an optional type system, and it has other use cases. The purpose is for people who /want/ static typing to be able to do so in a pretty, non-`if type(x) == t` way < 1459209413 195750 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't know 3.5. i'm saying my hunch is that guido would hate it. < 1459209428 440851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003-03-16 19:04:19 oh well. if it blows up, I'll let you borrow zem. zem doesn't have win98 or a floppy drive. -g < 1459209432 855999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003-04-14 21:01:43 now it doesn't have a floppy drive or anything, hnggh. < 1459209435 862358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2004-10-22 20:50:03 But really, As much as i like lisp-me for being able to hack-on-the-toilet, as a scheme, it is woefully underpowered. < 1459209438 872829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus apparently an entirely disconnected "anything, it is" of which there are at least two. < 1459209487 86292 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1459209487 216751 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1459209490 296045 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459209501 634881 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1459209579 458977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "it" on the second line is also zem. The floppy drive (or lack of it) was the link there, I guess.