< 1459555256 604316 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1459555266 420870 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdochelloc. < 1459555274 424324 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459555303 634675 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you know that kind of feeling when the features you've been slaving on for the past months suddenly stop working for no apparent reason? < 1459555858 289817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololkkkkk < 1459555891 361868 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Hi < 1459555915 438578 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery @ < 1459555933 757648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: lolol < 1459555939 65797 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1459555940 577680 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1459555949 605568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​|a+b@| = { √(a²-b²) if a²-b² ≥ 0 ; i√(a²-b²) if a²-b² < 0 } < 1459555951 597532 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the? being hacked? < 1459555956 663184 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :those messages weren't showing up < 1459555965 189594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...???????? < 1459555981 864462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i opened a new terminal and connected again and suddenly it turns out they had been < 1459555987 687234 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1459556018 573808 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rdococ hies again. < 1459556028 52706 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this chännel seems to be temporally misaligned... < 1459556067 681047 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well tell me all about these features < 1459556083 962481 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459556084 337963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1459556086 57452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1459556087 995276 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't start the day very well, but at least I got stuff back in order. superhackmode overclocking! and now I'm completely drained. < 1459556097 121470 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgemello: < 1459556103 409793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`mk/Everything's better with `mk. < 1459556106 680112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eto/Eto is the ageless laughing first minister. < 1459556120 52540 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this program do again? < 1459556121 675812 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459556127 24060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my team and I work with everything related to interchange of information between dentists, labs, manufacturers, production centers... < 1459556129 920029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1459556141 730083 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which features broke? < 1459556146 668683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zkstr/zkstr is a common consonant cluster at the start of Russian words, see eg. http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/metro-typo-2 < 1459556148 983832 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's surprisingly difficult to get a rubber egg to type things on my keyboard by bouncing on it... < 1459556162 790154 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :zkstr... heheheh. :D < 1459556167 1430 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: So do you have any interest in that hacking game? < 1459556185 829536 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: subcontracting some kinds of orders. our software supports crowns, bridges, implants, bite splints, orthodontic models, partials, full dentures... if a dentist can jack that stuff in your mouth, we do it. < 1459556201 613162 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could generalize it to a GameOS (not a real OS, of course. I'm far too stupid for that.) < 1459556237 335712 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: some order types got suddenly broken because we've been working on new ID tracking features in the background, with more complex management features. < 1459556259 298158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1459556275 424451 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le//rn < 1459556277 908682 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1459556280 970075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1459556290 463168 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1459556291 716793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...] < 1459556298 659204 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1459556300 87272 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep < 1459556301 547481 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so I committed atrocities in our codebase. there's duplicative code repetetition, but at least it has the merit to be explicit. and properly spelled! < 1459556302 497106 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1459556349 772711 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are some code snippets we like to circle around on Slack. sometimes, programmers aren't in the sanest of mindsets, and you can glimpse half-self-discussions in comments.) < 1459556363 279142 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :repetetetetetetition < 1459556391 964441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you get a chance to dry out the code later? < 1459556408 382772 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the release! < 1459556432 251343 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1459556454 397265 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eqvvezktlfhaizhq JOIN :#esoteric < 1459556474 276611 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the softeng VP agrees that whole part is bonkers, and that we should rig it with shaped explosives as soon as we can. < 1459556511 387494 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Esoprocessor? < 1459556516 300083 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Hm? < 1459556520 472738 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1459556526 393912 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: I don't think anybody has made one yet < 1459556535 54696 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Should we? < 1459556541 345680 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could try. < 1459556544 897808 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Barring unintentional ones) < 1459556547 53665 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the problem is that the first layers were quickly hacked as an afterthought by interns some years ago, then left to ferment and sediment. < 1459556561 970175 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: It should be neither Von Neumann nor Harvard < 1459556777 408808 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I shouldn't complain much, really. all in all, it's a pretty sweet gig I got, and devs aren't treated as meager code monkeys. < 1459556794 64595 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm informally known as the Electric Octopus guy instead :D) < 1459556809 363217 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you the faster coder? < 1459556856 9845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459556888 24514 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Octopus because I like Japanese culture, Electric because in dry weather I'm prone to ESD. < 1459556904 386294 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: How about.... < 1459556947 522584 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a bus from the memory to the CPU AND the ALU < 1459556951 365556 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459556968 826053 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And from the CPU to the output, and the input to the CPU < 1459556973 74514 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/CPU/CU/ < 1459557011 848051 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is octopus the eternal symbol of japan? < 1459557022 962156 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: I want it to be stored-program unless there's some more eso idea < 1459557029 192523 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, in my cow orkers' minds... < 1459557040 121545 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :cow workers? < 1459557041 346661 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez < 1459557046 237886 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cow orkers < 1459557046 862894 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that how you treat your co workers? < 1459557051 602273 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coworkers are dual to workers, right? < 1459557052 378410 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :friends who ork cows < 1459557060 855182 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: our team lead is Goat :D < 1459557068 891040 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1459557106 523809 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Ew... < 1459557109 489170 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have emoji injokes. a loaf of bread symbolizes acceptance. an orange (fruit) means you are late. < 1459557134 670336 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that why your steam avatar is orangey < 1459557141 660594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we sacrifice eggplants when we cast votes to know what we are going to eat for lunch. < 1459557151 654963 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, that's a kaki. much difference. < 1459557256 526380 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taunt (Characters you control that don't have taunt can't be attacked.) < 1459557358 831202 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What kind of architecture would an esoteric processor use? < 1459557364 733689 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. steam avatar. I got oranges over there... < 1459557367 60893 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously not Von Neumann or Harvard < 1459557370 345930 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>'... <_<;... < 1459557564 959235 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wl/icprojects/papers/reduceron08.pdf might be of interest here < 1459557668 693502 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does a lime symbolize < 1459557722 56480 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :my color is blue < 1459557724 486694 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have any lime emoji yet. if I remember to, I'll add one next Monday ^^ < 1459557725 946326 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1459557736 519324 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: in which context twh < 1459557740 376717 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat < 1459557763 840467 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :your name was kaki in chat, so I assumed that's what it meant < 1459557931 204803 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does a lima bean represent < 1459558077 641817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does a snail represent < 1459558095 913270 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we have a chili emoji somewhere. haven't been used much afaik. < 1459558107 743728 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no snails either. lots of cats on the other hand. < 1459558142 134105 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Acute angles and judging books by their covers, respectively. < 1459558155 547021 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the Bell of Shame, the Kleenex Box of Bad Pun Retribution... < 1459558251 95518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the blurry face of mr. boily represent < 1459558256 404612 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are there squirrels? < 1459558275 429007 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? there's a blurry face of me? < 1459558320 38308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's favorite emoji < 1459558379 919717 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459558392 186032 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459558423 418006 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :un hamburger < 1459558428 988323 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459558438 328971 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: My family has in-jokes in the form of finite strings of english letters and punctuation < 1459558442 927290 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a custom boilyface emoji we have. generally used when someone does something boilylike... < 1459558445 104693 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(space is punctuation here) < 1459558459 614828 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give you a hamburger. the world is in sepia. a mime cries. < 1459558480 421136 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1459558499 637926 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459558613 593516 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1459558635 976527 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459558652 960680 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459558670 902814 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION receives hamburger
< 1459559038 870960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :work over, which means boily may sleep soon...but who knows on friday < 1459559056 466669 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only about 15 minutes left for me. < 1459559756 665340 :andrew_!~andrew@175.43.242.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459559949 656010 :andrew_!~andrew@175.43.242.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459560029 155245 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :horizontal time. 'night all! < 1459560047 169059 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LAUDANUM CHICKEN < 1459560530 537056 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459560547 174718 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459560547 428005 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459560596 969866 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459560605 450507 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459561023 984839 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459561436 518622 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does youtube's "snoopavision" look like?" < 1459561673 212755 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1459561751 209234 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459562070 805317 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459562123 425822 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459563126 45597 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459563144 341093 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1459563333 906251 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@icon-thinkpad.wireless.rit.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459563578 214428 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, a 360 video of the video in a theater with Snoop Dogg commenting on it < 1459563589 996590 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only supported for a few videos < 1459563855 220937 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459564127 622105 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459564194 566790 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as? < 1459564197 871761 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very interested < 1459564275 176007 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, dang < 1459564439 999641 :espes__!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459564495 120462 :espes__!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459565729 353566 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/olofson/audiality2 Making music with this could be interesting < 1459566291 148117 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459566453 502053 :m0li!~m0li@unaffiliated/m0li PART #esoteric :"bye." < 1459566577 642540 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459566878 88089 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459566973 563310 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1459567255 649116 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1459567866 284029 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459567875 553173 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1459568954 763329 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was the first assembler programmed? < 1459569003 179232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the great unsolved mysteries < 1459569054 529223 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of esoteric versions of assembly instructions < 1459569077 772268 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about MOV but with line numbers < 1459569090 706439 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By assembling by hand, I believe. < 1459569108 976593 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn't that *hard*, just tedious. < 1459569139 370810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assembling is a task like any other task. < 1459569152 662575 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the assembly would be called ASS, because it should be a real pain in the ass to program in < 1459569169 988582 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and before you complain, brainfuck. < 1459569356 668578 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid ASS is already a subtitle format. < 1459569475 751294 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a subtitle format? < 1459569597 749557 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1459570284 679580 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459571001 404623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Seriously14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46730&oldid=46208 5* 03Mego 5* (-50) 10Heroku is defunct < 1459571292 810169 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459572308 776321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bubblegum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46731&oldid=45779 5* 03Ais523 5* (+698) 10the computational class issues here are actually at least mildly interesting < 1459572371 342150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bubblegum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46732&oldid=46731 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1) 10/* Reference implementation */ I know I made a typo, but MediaWiki's response to it was weird < 1459572446 879252 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1459572570 772246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:BASICER14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46733 5* 03Ais523 5* (+388) 10another "language" with the same computational class < 1459572878 949725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07!Tautologos14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46734 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+1434) 10!Tautologos == false < 1459572912 291586 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1459572916 159451 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"language"? < 1459572926 462569 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying my languages aren't really languages? < 1459573203 875548 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably aren't < 1459573211 101275 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're better than derivatives of brainfuck < 1459573434 586566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on < 1459573445 552283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards' April Fools joke has a Momir Basic decklist < 1459573454 664641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and talks about how innovative it is for playing only four of the five basic lands < 1459573462 286235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 11 basic lands :-( < 1459573472 492215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they added one only last set! < 1459573479 704457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which surely they should have remembered about < 1459573615 412125 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a good imagination... < 1459573665 258821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I wasn't accusing your language of not being a language < 1459573675 540111 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a good imagination < 1459573677 931405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was accusing PowerPoint, which has the same computational class, as not being a language < 1459573686 154868 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1459573689 452015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. your language and a non-language have the same capabilities < 1459573780 489656 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no ideas < 1459573794 47756 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459574084 959837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea < 1459574091 774373 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A development platform < 1459574095 84152 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based off of Wikis < 1459574140 270636 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined with Source Control, of course < 1459574235 263300 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: THERE we go < 1459574241 191479 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: THERE's the april first comic < 1459574362 367002 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: < 1459574380 387923 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Yes? < 1459574396 792856 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1459574424 753347 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :esonum < 1459574506 729835 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Which one? < 1459574517 185957 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yay one < 1459574521 20102 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me say yay < 1459574530 244984 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1459574538 162205 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3yay = YAY < 1459574543 178748 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Why? < 1459574552 584840 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: What does that even mean? < 1459574565 733712 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :My emotions are way out of whack when I need sleep. < 1459574572 865676 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEP < 1459574574 606280 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I act weirdly. Yay! < 1459574623 988237 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: "SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEP" is not a valid instruction < 1459574674 395807 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: *Sigh*. What kind of language are you running? < 1459574681 782393 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEP < 1459574683 950616 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEP < 1459574692 907763 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEP is not a valid instruction < 1459574711 456847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEP: not found < 1459574711 619634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEP: not found < 1459574721 845345 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1459574725 166031 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: No, what is the model of your language < 1459574726 327237 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1459574728 921611 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you mean "sleep" instead? < 1459574785 830991 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AbstractRdococFactory()()().sleep(28800000) < 1459574819 42041 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? How do you even call a dictionary? < 1459574840 985494 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey dictionary come here" < 1459574842 325106 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :AbstractRdococFactory.sleep? < 1459574859 335299 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, very fun--er, I mean, Hey is an invalid instruction. < 1459574866 508427 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: What dictionary? < 1459574881 700763 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :AbstractRdococFactory is an associative array. < 1459574886 527650 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or dictionary, or table. < 1459574905 982344 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Really? < 1459574910 600043 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a few functions, one of which is :CreateRdococ() < 1459574925 328246 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get the current instance of me, use :GetCurrentRdococ() < 1459574933 105393 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I use CreateRdococ as a curried function < 1459574949 99937 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AbstractRdococFactory() <-- Create a new factory < 1459574950 419492 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459574960 356106 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :() <-- Initialize a new Rdococ < 1459574966 612806 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :() <-- Get rdococ state < 1459574978 602545 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, AbstractRdococFactory isn't a function to make a new factory. It is one. < 1459575007 756085 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you wanted was AbstractRdococFactory.GetCurrentRdococ.sleep(28800000). < 1459575041 406160 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I meant AbstractRdococFactory.GetCurrentRdococ().sleep(28800000). < 1459575076 134262 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: AbstractRdococFactory.DestroyCurrentRdococ() < 1459575099 392836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, you can overload main in perl 6 < 1459575099 830416 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Cannot destruct Rdococ without something to take its place < 1459575113 260928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different main runs depending on which one can parse the command line arguments < 1459575117 831058 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: AbstractRdococFactory.DestroyCurrentRdococ(AbstractComputerFactory.GetCurrentHppavilion()[1]) < 1459575124 432177 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1459575139 685411 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Hppavilion/Hppavilions/ < 1459575146 285242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders who was being …ed at
< 1459575147 498704 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: AbstractRdococFactory.DestroyCurrentRdococ(AbstractComputerFactory.GetCurrentHppavilion()[1]) < 1459575149 604011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could have been either of us < 1459575160 768839 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1459575164 447851 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked! < 1459575184 320267 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Yes. Yes it did. < 1459575206 517389 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A factory is a pattern to replace constructors (IWINLTM) < 1459575219 416622 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1459575223 176204 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a treatment plant a pattern to replace destructors? < 1459575296 604714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could actually do that in Rust < 1459575306 775861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't easily do it in Java or the like though because it's GCed < 1459575327 373291 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: DAMN YOU, JAVA < 1459575332 225581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where "that" = "create an object that has a method you can pass an object to to destroy it in a custom way") < 1459575339 977078 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But doesn't that mean I des⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎWhat in the hell? < 1459575349 718561 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nearly got collected by the garbage collector. < 1459575358 67364 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank goodness I could outrun it. < 1459575364 616203 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: How long did you spend making that message? < 1459575376 798815 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Correct answer: Far too long < 1459575381 522318 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um...├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎYou mean me? < 1459575393 731401 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐Stop it, hppavilion[2]!├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐No! < 1459575396 556684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@łe¶ŧ←↓→øþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ < 1459575396 756334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1459575398 938308 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I want to design an esoteric processor < 1459575410 724448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡⅛£¼⅜⅝⅞™±° < 1459575411 920400 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are you ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐talking to? < 1459575416 758679 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Do you? < 1459575426 975054 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :S ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐e ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐r ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐i ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐o ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐u ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐s ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐l ├⌐⅓┼▀☼⌠⅍↑₺₦₨⁷ⅎ┐y < 1459575428 95993 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaaaaaaand the joke just expired. < 1459575435 238088 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww... < 1459575443 8291 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would love to design an esoteric processor. < 1459575447 243029 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Yay! < 1459575453 352442 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now googling a processor
< 1459575474 853444 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I don't want to use Von Neumann or Harvard if I can avoid it, but I still want it to be stored-program, as unstored-program is stupid < 1459575479 247190 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of processor? < 1459575487 653113 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :stored-program? < 1459575504 701731 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Stored-program means the program is loaded from memory < 1459575509 657720 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :unstored? < 1459575519 797161 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Loaded from a separate memory < 1459575527 772658 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Not really "unstored", but "stored somewhere else" < 1459575528 363731 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1459575538 277285 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a processor which doesn't have transistors? < 1459575551 415834 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: We're emulating it, so transistors don't matter < 1459575558 505520 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1459575558 921542 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Look at the diagrams for Von Neumann and Harvard < 1459575599 69343 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Von_Neumann_Architecture.svg and https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Harvard_architecture.svg < 1459575646 385005 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A central processing unit (CPU) is the electronic circuitry within a computer that carries out the instructions of a computer program by performing the basic arithmetic, logical, control and input/output (I/O) operations specified by the instructions." < 1459575652 997037 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean that kind of processor? < 1459575681 114713 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that have assembly programming languages? < 1459575686 119347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need an esoteric food processir < 1459575739 903871 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs logic? < 1459575757 885452 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Yes, that kind of processor. But memory is part of this processor < 1459575765 912760 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Assembly, yes, close enough. < 1459575775 707256 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only a few esometers off < 1459575782 64879 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha. < 1459575790 489399 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean esounits. < 1459575806 800267 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless esometer is the name of your esounit. < 1459575811 875650 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: it is < 1459575824 758755 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is getting more and more esoteric as time goes on. Esotime. < 1459575828 369568 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: An esometer measures distance from metal and distance apart relative to the metal < 1459575857 717373 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolet's esoprefix esoevery esoword esowith esoeso. < 1459575859 709189 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is far above the metal, python less far, C fairly close, ASM a single esometer, and electrons are 0 < 1459575873 436865 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1459575875 315331 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Just the nouns < 1459575877 801189 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, what about -1? < 1459575883 2543 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Thue < 1459575887 818078 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2? < 1459575892 582131 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: iota < 1459575896 172004 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :-3? < 1459575899 247133 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/iota/zot < 1459575908 540524 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Divide by zero error < 1459575910 458994 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i? < 1459575917 23148 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 + 2i? < 1459575917 303984 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Nope. < 1459575919 478008 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@? < 1459575925 535004 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 / 0? < 1459575930 115532 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esometers don't support esonums < 1459575934 422233 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :0^0? < 1459575936 998972 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason < 1459575943 30492 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Everything < 1459575950 551906 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1230132012391238843? < 1459575974 113900 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: That would be quantum thueskell < 1459575983 391215 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we actually going to emulate the actual units themselves - something like Logisim, or just draw it? < 1459575997 70364 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: We're going to emulate the units < 1459576006 310941 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: So we'll have a single memory unit < 1459576010 521315 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome! < 1459576024 513565 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs arithmetic? < 1459576036 259203 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Do you know of any online notepad++-like collaborative editors? < 1459576041 525369 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or vim-like. Or whatever. < 1459576045 254757 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what exactly does control mean? < 1459576066 561220 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1459576087 954484 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1459576125 336074 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1459576146 473055 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :My connection died on me...? < 1459576151 377698 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the quit message? < 1459576163 772967 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Connection reset by Piece < 1459576166 637862 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Pierce < 1459576169 889091 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peer? < 1459576176 325223 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: No, Pierce < 1459576189 38927 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pierce? < 1459576190 50436 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Pierce is the God of Freenode. He randomly kills connections for fun. < 1459576197 292611 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pierce < 1459576199 224536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pierce? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459576205 608143 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1459576205 877521 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery pierce < 1459576206 897243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1459576214 736667 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think we'd have an entry on Pierce by now < 1459576226 299765 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely a meme and totally not something I just made up. < 1459576231 381136 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should spread it. < 1459576234 358824 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like such a jerk. *gets disconnected* < 1459576261 567317 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1459576272 846012 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if I ask someone else about it, they'll say he exists? < 1459576302 925759 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Yes, definitely. < 1459576311 97740 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll see. < 1459576328 603070 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's no longer April Fool's where I live, so you're safe) < 1459576343 392831 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(6:51:56 AM) Catelite: No < 1459576350 347679 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1459576359 155892 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[i]? < 1459576368 833827 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: You can't calculate a range to i < 1459576387 450008 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't? < 1459576400 463790 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Of course not < 1459576404 842125 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: So esoprocessor. < 1459576417 308435 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoprocessor! < 1459576435 955787 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: If you like, we can have complex opcodes if you can figure out a way to accomplish it < 1459576437 631573 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we shouldn't implement arithmetic. < 1459576454 755726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: We should, but it should treat all numbers as imaginaries < 1459576459 141631 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1459576466 176692 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would certainly be weird. < 1459576487 279399 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So instead of 256 sequential opcodes, we can have something like a 16x16 array of opcodes < 1459576519 789729 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: What should control flow be like? < 1459576525 5711 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1459576543 898570 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1459576574 703525 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1459576597 436335 :rdococ_!516f6fda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.111.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459576603 989616 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it, I'm connecting an alt to see my disconnect messages. < 1459576620 885697 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: That was a normal disconnect < 1459576625 650379 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:04 -!- rdococ [~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] < 1459576630 188107 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Not done by pierce < 1459576632 217616 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ < 1459576648 841516 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if Pierce does it for the second time, then I know. < 1459576656 321882 :rdococ_!516f6fda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.111.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1459576675 854822 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: He usually only does it to a user once every few years < 1459576707 327662 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1459576724 13144 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did he manage to pick me of all people? < 1459576736 995738 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: No, he does it to /all/ users once every 1 or 2 years < 1459576742 141582 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Not all at once though < 1459576750 910976 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: He has a list that he shuffles then iterates over < 1459576770 13298 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are we going to collaborate on the processor? < 1459576780 710949 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I don't know < 1459576808 19268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made many of farbfeld utility programs. It includes ffpng and pngff (similar to the ones on their webpage but don't require libpng), as well as: ff-back, ff-bright, ff-colorkey, ff-composite, ff-enlarge, ff-info, ff-matrix, ff-padsynth, ff-poster, ff-printf, ff-scanf, ff-solar, ff-turn. < 1459576812 559769 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: There's an "Arithmetic and Logic unit" in most processors. Why don't we also have an "Algebra and Nonsense Unit"? < 1459576832 589921 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, we should split the ALU into the AU and the LU < 1459576861 931217 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we need an AU? < 1459576874 503432 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, why not make things awkward by removing the LU, but not the AU? < 1459576945 569748 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not make a GPU that's intended to be used as a CPU? < 1459576982 243968 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: APU < 1459576990 664267 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :APU? < 1459577003 610365 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audio PU < 1459577014 225551 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ < 1459577054 890986 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not have multiple processors that work together? < 1459577064 923762 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Multiprocessing? < 1459577090 647008 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RWPU, the APU, the LPU, the NPU, the GPU, the SPU, the ZPU, the HPU, the RPU... < 1459577115 435647 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name htem < 1459577140 313841 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: What do those all stand for? < 1459577153 956718 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read & Write Processing Unit, the Arithmetic Processing Unit, Logic Processing Unit, Nonsense Processing Unit, um < 1459577190 55170 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or let's get rid of the control unit and make a declarative esoprocessor? < 1459577199 716442 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1459577231 989945 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell Assembly < 1459577241 9898 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Haskssmbly < 1459577247 297371 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskembly < 1459577252 434207 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: There we go < 1459577253 981465 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Prosembly < 1459577257 196881 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Prolog < 1459577294 947359 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaning towards Prosembly < 1459577306 298646 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: How does it process in a machine-doable way without a list of sequential instructions w/ jumps? < 1459577326 802848 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about that. < 1459577380 445536 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, first it evaluates the output. To do that, it needs to check the rules to see if they apply. If they do apply, apply them. < 1459577410 730566 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, in Prosembly: < 1459577419 583768 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... < 1459577456 932277 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Oh! A language based on looping through a list of possible conditional transformations and applying them until a termination case is reached! < 1459577469 879890 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that could work. < 1459577499 555424 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that basically Prolog? < 1459577542 358413 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, either way, its assembly could go like this- < 1459577571 949049 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov father, (parent, male) or something? < 1459577599 351228 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pseudo assembly for copying the meaning of being a parent, and being male, to being a father. < 1459577624 507572 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Uhuh. And how the hell does that work on a machine level? With binary registers and shit? < 1459577638 269400 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Be sure that your ideas make sense xD < 1459577645 119454 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov [001], [002]? < 1459577650 577845 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I...honestly dunno. < 1459577659 897982 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if father, parent and male are memory addresses? < 1459577678 438936 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we need to make father point to both parent and male? < 1459577752 225047 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :father (0000) -> parent (0001), male (0010)... then in pseudo assembly, mov father 0011? < 1459577761 833576 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using... flags. < 1459577768 309599 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, flag like things. < 1459577892 267798 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: http://xkcd.com/1291/ < 1459577980 882418 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my mov [0000] 0011 makes sense, right? < 1459578491 290310 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1459578796 408185 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459582160 702436 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459582418 647746 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459584648 857398 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oevbiojbkxyvopgg PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: mov or or? < 1459585594 390766 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459585983 660500 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459586205 201703 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1459586762 249036 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459588278 952729 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459591581 290865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, so on a whim, I decided to look up virustotal's results for the eicar test file < 1459591593 433759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two scanners failed to detect it, and one false-positive detected it as something else (!) < 1459591633 839982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is some level of failure < 1459591778 656701 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1459591779 448840 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail < 1459593043 57235 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459593310 28450 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459593840 54890 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459596617 990712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459597570 243422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459598693 27612 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHECKERED CHICKEN < 1459599889 91814 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459599929 358251 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1459600181 1427 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1459600649 731919 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: are you still trying to make your own wannabe-prolog? < 1459600673 132999 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Yes. ) < 1459600835 872893 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it at least possible to decode strings that are made of arbitrary combinations of ^ ~^ :^ !^ ? Because that would already be slightly more than a bit of information per source byte. < 1459600910 781944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, good catch, I think it is < 1459600916 193394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a^ too < 1459600920 741684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1459600925 135058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired < 1459600926 699670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, it might be extendible < 1459600930 890624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a~^ would work though < 1459600941 450371 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to set a baseline first < 1459600943 906056 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*^ perhaps < 1459600950 241087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1459600958 738071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems possible but also seems like a pain < 1459600978 91633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably you could do : ^ ~^ :^ !^ *^ < 1459600990 673779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not :^ in addition to : and ^ obviously < 1459601008 507898 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should try and write a decoder. (Then you'll also need to write a channel encoder, possibly an arithmetic compression one, in underload, but that shouldn't be VERY hard.) < 1459601008 670775 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1459601016 657475 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :^ = : ~^ < 1459601024 570286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1459601041 570584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't work on this when tired < 1459601042 907267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I was thinking of !!^ as an addition < 1459601065 818926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably make it work with any specific finite number of ! actually < 1459601073 372180 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first I should try to decode JUST the four clusters ^ ~^ :^ !^ < 1459601076 518993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first stage < 1459601081 109576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and any specific finite number of : < 1459601093 801590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and any specific finite number of ! followed by any specific finie number of :, perhaps?) < 1459601115 576411 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well sure, but just any finite number of ! tends to a finite limit of information, so it's not worth to go very far. < 1459601139 286787 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ending things with ^ seems like a good idea because that's sort of the point where you hand control back to the decoder < 1459601141 600685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, obviously, since you certainly can't go above four bits per source bytes in information density. < 1459601150 535567 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1459601155 307837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I should try a basic one first < 1459601162 360955 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to learn how underload works < 1459601186 297336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a good underload interpreter that's fast, and one that helps debugging? < 1459601203 748063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JS interpreter on the esoteric files archive is good for debugging but slow < 1459601204 555592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean ones that are known to be correct on all inputs. < 1459601227 324475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well nobody implements the escape syntax < 1459601244 178746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can also try to write an interpreter myself of course, because why not. < 1459601266 363915 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have the top of the stack be something like ((:*:*)P)((::**)P)((:*)P)(()P) < 1459601284 554013 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um, what's P ? < 1459601286 549767 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where P is a program that checks what numbers are on the stack in the known positions < 1459601302 984311 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and decodes what the part of your code before ^ did from that < 1459601317 858548 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1459601326 793469 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work as written < 1459601343 865572 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because P cannot find the numbers without executing the P's inside < 1459601344 366859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, don't tell me, I'll try to figure out myself, that way I'll learn more of how underload works. < 1459601349 521451 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1459601367 243780 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course feel free to implement something like this yourself if you want. < 1459601371 3332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just trying to think of a general scheme that could work with many ...^ codes < 1459601480 542876 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that kind of scheme only really handles : ! and ~ < 1459601500 931083 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh which is what you were trying, essentially < 1459601508 933038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interesting thing would be to find a code that involves some parenthisized sequences too, like ()~^ I'm not sure if that's possible (at least in a meaningful way where you could't just write : instead of () < 1459601573 751548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could even be sequences that have something in the parenthesis, possibly even a sequence of parenthisized stuff without any ^ outside < 1459601593 57914 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, obviously, since you certainly can't go above four bits per source bytes in information density. <-- three < 1459601594 550677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not likely to be more efficient than the simple het thing < 1459601616 588068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't remember how many valid characters there are exactly < 1459601640 109813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :S can probably be ignored because a program can't distinguish it form ! < 1459601662 380916 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right, and then there are 8 remaining < 1459601665 903951 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apart from that there's ~ : ! * ( ) a ^ that's eigh characters indeed < 1459601675 962626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, then definitely below 3 bits per source char < 1459601736 920114 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the true limit _will_ hit the halting problem at some point, when you start trying to include as arbitrary nested programs as you can < 1459601798 596212 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(intuitively, that is. not a proof.) < 1459601899 278616 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Does HackEgo evaluate underload? <-- it does. < 1459601911 485062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! ul (test)S < 1459601925 127314 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! underload (:aSS):aSS < 1459601944 657476 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually. < 1459601949 645424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, but I need something with lower latency than HackEgo < 1459601950 244228 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/ul: not found < 1459601950 407171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(:aSS):aSS < 1459601965 330644 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!underload (:aSS):aSS < 1459601965 920010 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(:aSS):aSS < 1459601970 543049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was about to do that :-D < 1459601977 315825 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1459602004 424014 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fungot is probably most convenient for irc lines < 1459602004 586560 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it depends on which implementation you are using?"? < 1459602017 698285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, relevant comment < 1459602028 438759 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess EgoBot is better if you want to do something heavy... < 1459602049 905973 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since iirc it uses ais523's C implementation < 1459602068 95971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that impl isn't hyperoptimized, IIRC < 1459602082 742309 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd imagine it beating befunge, still < 1459602108 391294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it is a pretty optimized one < 1459602259 527606 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily this chännel seems to be temporally misaligned... <-- helloily < 1459602259 690475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1459602470 465676 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459602515 83011 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1459602529 178157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...] < 1459602534 11248 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good < 1459602550 136760 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looked in the logs like i'd put space between [s] and [punctuation] < 1459602713 136631 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1459602717 592557 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disflagrate/disflagrate v.t.perf.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized. < 1459602771 277938 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? defenestration < 1459602772 911970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defenestration is the traditional Czech system for voting out government officials. < 1459602777 79340 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1459602777 982873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :916) boily: the man eating chicken is just a normal man, it's quite common to eat chicken in some parts of the world < 1459602818 318610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1459602820 436721 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u/u monad? < 1459602826 877752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1459602829 881264 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat/Angkor Wat is a famous temple complex in Cambodia. It is the largest religious monument in the world. < 1459603044 419678 :me2!~me@38.70.70.115.static.exetel.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1459603537 185570 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1459604196 370209 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a humorous review of the inconsistent type conversion practices of ancient cambodia) < 1459604272 775148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the "u" one funnny? < 1459604277 226828 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/u < 1459604302 438828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1459604319 353621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to have historical value of sorts.. < 1459604652 659771 :me2!~me@38.70.70.115.static.exetel.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1459604716 608658 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, sourts is an acidic version of sorts. < 1459604733 616199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brain < 1459604742 52023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brains are just receptacles for bricks. < 1459604756 365193 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pinky < 1459604757 181579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pinky? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459604817 396494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; echo *blaster* < 1459604818 702671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*blaster* < 1459604842 671735 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom *rain* < 1459604847 213074 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainf**k/There is no such thing as brainf**k. You may be thinking of brainfuck. < 1459606288 665047 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459606290 438307 :rdococ_!516f6fda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.111.218 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1459606986 902660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In Magic: the Gathering there are eleven basic lands but I would call the five of them the "conventional basic lands". < 1459607023 829193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's some debate about whether Wastes is actually useful in Momir Basic < 1459607026 439634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it theoretically could be < 1459607111 717249 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Momir Basic allow all basic lands or only conventional basic lands? < 1459607132 677378 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1459607135 92153 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your starting life total and effective starting hand size in Momir Basic? < 1459607152 533032 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1459607154 447524 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an online-only format so I haven't paid much attention to it. < 1459607253 340472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it is possible to play with cards too; you would have to make up your own list of valid cards otherwise you might have too many < 1459607351 511784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wait, does the Momir avatar card have exactly the same English name as the real black-bordered card of Momir Vig from the Ravnica block? < 1459607360 839666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can they have the same names? < 1459607443 559697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all avatar cards like that? < 1459607445 70168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is crazy < 1459607697 383482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed they had different suffixes, just like how different cards representing the same in-story famous characters have different suffixes < 1459607715 612563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The avatar has the word "Avatar" at the end, apparently < 1459607735 509584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the name is not the same < 1459607781 725702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It has a different printed name from canonical name it seems) < 1459607861 5406 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1459607958 551996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: whoa... there are very few cards with a different printed name from canonical name. There's the Ærathi Berserker in legends, Atinlay Igpay from unhinged, the BFG from unhinged, and... I don't know if there's more < 1459608002 975180 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@129.21.123.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459608255 399527 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :noncanon < 1459608266 285808 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all the cards have a picture of a cannon on them? < 1459608277 291744 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: no, but Goblin Cannon has one < 1459608282 897473 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1459608297 362965 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that card for a nostaligic reason. < 1459608312 243422 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cannon made out of goblins? < 1459608342 612527 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: no, only the cannonball is < 1459608350 137010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cannon that fires a goblin < 1459608388 619369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe it's Goblin Artillery that fires goblins < 1459608407 86638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Goblin Grenade < 1459608614 737700 :leh4!~wh1t3ye@net-93-71-141-159.cust.vodafonedsl.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1459608687 461298 :leh4!~wh1t3ye@net-93-71-141-159.cust.vodafonedsl.it QUIT :Client Quit < 1459608838 791018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Love this sentence. "The Heise Method is an intuitive method for solving the whole cube, but is very difficult to understand." < 1459608904 65472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, “intuitive” is used in a technical sense by cubers, although I think it's a manager style of word that tries to sound good but actually means something bad < 1459609128 784196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the sentence because it hilights that fact. < 1459609344 384400 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. "F (R U R' U') F' f (R U R' U') f'" ... F is awkward enough, but how do they even dream of doing f quickly... < 1459609568 47151 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459609587 98110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1459609940 659499 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1459610128 974757 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1459610426 112477 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@129.21.123.175 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459610568 67809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The printed text on the Alpha "Birds of Paradise" card does not match what Gatherer says the printed text is. < 1459611045 968866 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1459611432 972622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it match on the Beta version? < 1459611446 275405 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459611961 594568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1459613123 609882 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459614720 963799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The YZIP picture library format supports pictures with up to sixteen colours (one of which may be transparent), and stores each pixel as the current colour index XOR the one above, and then run-length-encodes the result, and then the result of that is huffed. What is the way to optimize the order of colours in the palette (and if less than sixteen, which ones to duplicate, if any)? < 1459615252 170842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46735&oldid=46625 5* 0395.103.41.106 5* (+476) 10Added Kotlin implementation < 1459615705 261106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any better way than just trying all combinations? < 1459616657 860810 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459617277 977296 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459617736 58319 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :flight cancelled, flight delayed, by the time we get on the plane, we could have driven < 1459617759 37500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been told that this document is difficult to understand by some people: https://www.npmjs.com/package/genasync How would you suggest to make improved document? < 1459617803 940019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace it with a harry potter fanfic. everyone understands harry potter < 1459617886 74338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a php package? < 1459617902 314464 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, quintopia, have you seen the changes to the Daoyu specification? Is it better now? < 1459617966 238684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is a JavaScript package < 1459618061 397118 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1459618075 467494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is probably fine < 1459618146 875206 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: can you annotate some example progs to explain how they work? that would be a lot clearer than trying to interrupt what paths do < 1459618217 266772 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, I'll do that ASAP < 1459618517 376119 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459619226 511067 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459619854 524129 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459619860 238173 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459620124 220502 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1459620701 320315 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1459621156 342823 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1459621158 704434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can git use checksums other than sha-1 these days? Obviously you can't just convert all existing objects, but maybe there's a sane migration path? < 1459621353 568333 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1459621927 555681 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459622072 409253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Daoyu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46736&oldid=46712 5* 03Kaynato 5* (+10985) 10 < 1459622082 166703 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, that's done < 1459622531 46124 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1459623661 79789 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that better, quintopia? < 1459623777 791423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Daoyu14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46737&oldid=46736 5* 03Kaynato 5* (+12) 10minor formatting < 1459623914 764738 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-173-88-230-28.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :May be of interest: http://phys.org/news/2016-03-language-cells.html < 1459624210 183419 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1459624477 322800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07HQ9+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46738&oldid=46349 5* 0379.213.190.167 5* (-3) 10/* External resources */ linkfix < 1459625011 435298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1459625301 275269 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459628416 198351 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! why's my comupter slow? < 1459628936 5259 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459629183 888173 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1459629293 416675 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1459629507 306179 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1459629847 751316 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1459630342 389645 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459631205 961209 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any ideas about the optimization of YZIP picture libraries? < 1459631434 230570 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this part of your X11 redesign or have you moved on? < 1459631459 775415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is unrelated < 1459631712 367279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this is part of the infocom thread? < 1459631817 79946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have to do with Infocom < 1459632211 682835 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish you would establish some context for your questions. The first thing I found in this case was a program called "YZIP" by a company called "Yellow Software", apparently for Symbian... < 1459632248 803201 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And no, I don't.) < 1459632425 170929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-machine does not require specific formats to be used for picture libraries. I am calling this format "YZIP picture library" because it is documented together with that Z-machine version. (The other format is "XZIP picture library" format, which does not support compression or colours, and as far as I know is not in use.) < 1459632536 232878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A few XZIP implementations even use YZIP picture libraries. "XZIP" and "YZIP" here are versions of Z-machine code, although they are not related to the picture library formats except by being documented together.) < 1459632582 302874 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1459632734 963347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One idea I did think of is two pass compression, where it first encodes in the simple way and calculates the Huffman tree, and then encodes again by using RLE codes that compensate for the generated Huffman tree and then create a new tree. < 1459632783 772564 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that might work, I dunno < 1459632828 683133 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it's using RLE only, not general copies from back? < 1459632837 67520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, copy from any previous offset) < 1459632851 506180 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least within some distance limit) < 1459632863 204083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I'm not sure it helps much < 1459633470 192048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not DEFLATE; only RLE and Huffman, although each scanline is XOR by the scanline above < 1459633599 79101 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1459633690 94406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it needn't be deflate specifically, there are also simple compression schemes with copying from back but a simple fixed encoding of the references and literals instead of a variable huffman coding. < 1459633767 251774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I suppose LZ77, although in this case I would want to figure out optimization with this particular scheme and not DEFLATE or LZ77. < 1459633777 597304 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you mean that the RLE code itself is going to be a part of tree? < 1459633795 386237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right < 1459633806 976389 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's at least easier to solve < 1459633848 862661 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you may need something more tricky to find the optimal huffman table < 1459633862 440325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Both the pixel values (the ones XOR with the above) and the RLE codes are part of the Huffman tree < 1459633878 330692 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, XOR is a primitive delta coding < 1459633894 164452 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or residual coding, whichever you prefer) < 1459633924 588147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how many different pixel values (colors) are there? < 1459633932 609446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Up to sixteen. < 1459633950 570399 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you allowed to break the image to chunks with different huffman tables? < 1459634001 433524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, although different pictures can share tables or use different ones < 1459634027 569893 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1459634067 135455 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, are you allowed to change the huffman table in the middle of a JPEG image? I think you're not allowed to change the _quantization table_ which is a big problem. < 1459634089 31779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how JPEG works, although I could try to look up to see < 1459634089 242447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what size are these pictures? < 1459634178 529822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Z-machine pictures may be of any size, but are generally of low resolution < 1459634279 612546 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan hellørjan. < 1459634279 811842 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1459634825 107328 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ͭ ͯ < 1459634964 711031 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+036D COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+036F COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER X] < 1459634964 711132 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm reading this right, you can change both the Huffman *and* quantization tables in JPEG. < 1459634964 711154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in the middle of an image? really? < 1459634964 711176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be great < 1459634968 733536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it's probably hard to find an encoder that can actually produce such a jpeg) < 1459635001 435055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an image I'd really like to encode that way. < 1459635048 891393 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, ideally I'd like browsers to just start supporting more modern image formats so that I don't have to stick to jpeg and png and gif, but you get the idea.) < 1459635411 669729 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it certainly looks as though the spec permits you to insert a new quantization table between DCT blocks. < 1459635426 746921 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from a somewhat quick reading of the relevant section of the JPEG spec) < 1459636140 95361 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459636414 39859 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459636951 603902 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459637456 469106 :me2!~me@38.70.70.115.static.exetel.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1459637505 566693 :me2!~me@38.70.70.115.static.exetel.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1459637793 128199 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1459637929 822856 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1459638353 225797 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1459639050 521623 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homemade miso soup is good ^^ < 1459639056 579383 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1459639056 741634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 10h 13m 17s ago: this chännel seems to be temporally misaligned... <-- helloily < 1459639056 741741 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 4h 45m 10s ago: please don't read this message in public twh < 1459639073 385429 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hellochaf. sorry. < 1459639533 721333 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the list for Homestuck? < 1459639767 249532 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :alist? < 1459639773 379444 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lists < 1459639784 165067 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lists: not found < 1459639818 606202 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459639841 217694 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-205-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1459639944 775444 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist < 1459639958 90701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. < 1459640077 889422 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1459640131 890073 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1459640359 156434 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist Homestuck has been updating since 3/28 < 1459640362 517308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist Homestuck has been updating since 3/28: Taneb atriq Ngevd nvd Fiora Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1459640371 438160 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware < 1459640386 292659 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't aware until today < 1459640393 885906 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's alot? < 1459640437 602551 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alot < 1459640439 753877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1459640552 802852 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.se/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html < 1459640586 659916 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this alot! < 1459640732 862466 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__, it's not going to update tomorrow, but EOA6 will be Tuesday I think < 1459640733 636450 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. sed -i \'s/elliot *$/alot/\' bin/list < 1459640835 180875 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what did happen to elliott? any particular calamity that made him disappear or did he just find something better to do? < 1459640851 774323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :codu's logs are letting me down < 1459640929 584605 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you download codu's logs for offline grepping? < 1459640954 791222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to support rsync, but these days I have to use wget... < 1459640976 816953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor's letting us down!