< 1460937612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nød is French for vertex. < 1460937614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'nød': Nød is French for vertex. < 1460937633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pellets b_jonas with some punctuation.....!?!? < 1460937694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that wisdom entry does not make sense. < 1460937735 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in reality, nœd is French for node < 1460937738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget the meaning of life < 1460937741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1460937769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: aha. < 1460937885 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1460937972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nœd is Norwegian for distress. < 1460937975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'nœd': Nœd is Norwegian for distress. < 1460937994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that's precise enough... < 1460938065 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that the same as "not" in german? < 1460938069 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? not < 1460938071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460938076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm probably < 1460938371 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1460938405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stalagmite < 1460938408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A stalagmite is an upside-down stalctite. < 1460938417 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a logical next item in this sequence: Either the value 1 OR the value 2; the value 1 AND the value 2; a map from the value 1 TO the value 2 < 1460938426 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stalactite < 1460938427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A stalactite is an upside-down stalagmite. < 1460938436 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stalagtite < 1460938437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalagtite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460938441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/lct/lact/' wisdom/stalagmite < 1460938444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1460938462 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, good catch < 1460938499 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Any idea what's higher than a function (where a higher-order function is at the same level as a function)? < 1460938517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rap < 1460938518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1460938518 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rap? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460938519 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scat < 1460938520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460938530 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Darn < 1460938539 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? curse < 1460938540 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? curses < 1460938540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curse? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460938541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460938563 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: You have any clue? < 1460938583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A curse is a curse, off course, of course. < 1460938586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'curse': A curse is a curse, off course, of course. < 1460939019 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a curse, it gets worse, of course, of course < 1460939023 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, of course < 1460939027 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the curse < 1460939040 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is something I can't make fit to the original song < 1460939138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all we need is curse whose name rhymes with Ed hth < 1460939259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? schaf < 1460939261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Schaf" is german for "sheep". There is absolutely no relation to shachaf. < 1460939620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `slashlearn soviet russia/In soviet russia, this wisdom entry reads you. <-- um you weren't paying attention, were you. < 1460939632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was too subtle. < 1460939715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was fixed < 1460939755 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yep < 1460939811 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107.208.218.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460940286 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? soviet russia < 1460940288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ soviet russia? < 1460940295 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn < 1460940296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1460940298 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1460940332 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming language and kitten typesetting | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Camelot (not THE PIT OF THE SOUL-EATER) < 1460940411 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1460940412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :515) one time I tried cpp programming ​ it was hellish ​ maybe I should try again < 1460940414 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1460940414 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1460940414 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1460940415 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1460940416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :884) What I learned on the Prolog course is that it's a good language if you need a thing that can say "No" a lot. < 1460940422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :686) Stupid W|A doesn't even understand "Vatican papal density". (As far as countries go, they've got a quite high one.) < 1460940423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :899) oerjan: humans are very hard to anthropomorphise < 1460940423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :127) Sgeo: hahaah, and i love when they announced it i dare u to press alt f4 and your house ( acts 16:31 your bible) < 1460940423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: way to break the chain < 1460940439 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, was there a chain? < 1460940445 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1460940499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there was a principle, and i suspect you broke it although your reference is too obscure for me to know on the spot. < 1460940546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Excellent, excellent < 1460940554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, it's definitely a reference < 1460940571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot manage to google the term " `slashlearn soviet russia/In soviet russia, this wisdom entry reads you." < 1460940574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1460940589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i hadn't actually c/p it < 1460940599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pit of the soul-eater" < 1460940616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's that from, and how did that turn into camelot < 1460940702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I chose two random mythical locations and spewed them out onto the topic < 1460940714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "pit of the soul eater" itself is just a general concept < 1460940718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1460940725 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well doesn't fit the theme < 1460940740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's the theme? < 1460940744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Countries? < 1460940761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, cities-in-the-country-in-which-you-live) < 1460940823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming language and kitten typesetting | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Kinshasa (not Leopoldville) < 1460940885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I still don't get the them < 1460940903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Remember, I'm American and thus don't understand the rest of the world. < 1460940915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you considered google hth < 1460940929 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wouldn't know what to google < 1460940980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could, for example, google kinshasa. < 1460940983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, places conquered by other places?? < 1460940991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\?\?/?/ < 1460940998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. < 1460941013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, looks like it < 1460941024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: As in, constantinople -> istanbul < 1460941041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might increase the chance of it fitting, that's not the definition < 1460941097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, google Istanbul (not Constantinople) while you're at it. < 1460941128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I know, Istanbul (not Constantinople) < 1460941135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I'm the one that started the chain, actually xD < 1460941151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, renamed cities < 1460941163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1460941203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? o < 1460941206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o is a popular comedy adventure fantasy webcomic. It's about a group of adventurers, heroes or warriors (whatever you want to call them) called the Order of the Stick, as they go about their adventures with minimal competence or knowledge of what they are doing, and eventually sort of stumble into a plan by an undead sorcerer to conquer the world, < 1460941239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1460941251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? p < 1460941252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460941282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? o | fmt | tail -3 < 1460941283 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait what? wasn't the first one Budapest? was that supposed to be because it got renamed from Pest-Buda or Aquincum or something? < 1460941286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problems at the same time. Hopefully not in that order, so they get \ their personal problems taken care of before the final battle. And it's \ a comedy. < 1460941296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i haven't seen budapest < 1460941306 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was the first one.. < 1460941319 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe some other place in Hungary or something < 1460941321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istanbul was definitely first. < 1460941336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think the second was me changing it to Oslo < 1460941400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The first one was Istanbul (not Constantinople), which was done by me. It was California previously, before which it was Budapest, but neither of those had the not-clause < 1460941412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1460941412 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I see < 1460941419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot about those < 1460941438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The lack of not-clause disqualifies them from the chain < 1460941516 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Ceylon (Sri Lanka) < 1460941522 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Ceylon (not Sri Lanka) < 1460941530 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: um that's backwards < 1460941548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic is hard < 1460941579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Ceylon (not Sri Lanka). Lack of cloaks will result in immediate execution. < 1460941607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this chain is jumping the shark. < 1460941612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I get what the joke meant originally) < 1460941625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Ceylon (not Sri Lanka). Lack of cloaks will result in immediate execution by shark. < 1460941653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, and now we've repurposed said shark < 1460941663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you didn't fix the order tdnh < 1460941686 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Dunaújváros or St. Petersburg (not Sztálingrád or Leningrad) < 1460941690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's b_jonas's job < 1460941699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: :( < 1460941713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i think two of those words are _very_ hungarianly spelled < 1460941741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially Dunaújváros wtf is that < 1460941764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1460941772 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats himself -----### < 1460941783 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "new" name of Dunapentele. it's been renamed in ancient times. < 1460941823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it was -grád, though? < 1460941890 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah no... Sztálingrád is another renamed town < 1460941907 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu TOPIC #esoteric :Pickle surprise! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Dunaújváros or St. Petersburg (not Sztálinváros or Leningrad) < 1460942001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After the Hungarian revolution of 1956 the new government renamed the city the neutral Dunaújváros in 1961, which means "Danube New City" (New City on the Danube)." <-- where is the "new" < 1460942021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh új < 1460942037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumed the ú was part of the river < 1460942307 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? try < 1460942308 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460942323 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn try/There is no try. < 1460942325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «try» < 1460942349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spice < 1460942351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spice girls/The Spice Girls are Pog spice, Story spice, Sarah spice, Gender spice, and Baleen spice. < 1460942357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1460942361 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1460942374 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn spice girls/The Spice Girls are Pog spice, Story spice, Sarah spice, Gender spice, and Baleen spice. < 1460942376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «spice girls» < 1460942379 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn spice/The Spice Girls are Pog spice, Story spice, Sarah spice, Gender spice, and Baleen spice. < 1460942382 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «spice» < 1460942388 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spice < 1460942390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Spice Girls are Pog spice, Story spice, Sarah spice, Gender spice, and Baleen spice. < 1460942404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kitten < 1460942406 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kitten typesetting < 1460942408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitten ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460942408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitten typesetting? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460942412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kitt < 1460942413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitt is the singular of kitten. < 1460942525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1460942631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? octarine < 1460942632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :octarine? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460942708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Octarine is a black variety of peach, from which the color is named. < 1460942711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'octarine': Octarine is a black variety of peach, from which the color is named. < 1460942902 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460943103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 323 < 1460943105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :323 is a quine in McCulloch's first machine < 1460943116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/323 < 1460943118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1460943548 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esomake < 1460943752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are any of McCulloch's Machines decidable? < 1460943824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only looked at no. 2, which i didn't get quite to the bottom of < 1460943844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it's decidable, but it got complicated enough that i'm not entirely sure < 1460943857 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Virgil is a prayer at dawn, as well as an ancient Italian poet who led Dante to hell so they can ask the blind transgendered seer Anchises stupid politics questions concerning contemporary noble families. < 1460943863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'virgil': Virgil is a prayer at dawn, as well as an ancient Italian poet who led Dante to hell so they can ask the blind transgendered seer Anchises stupid politics questions concerning contemporary noble families. < 1460943942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK, because I need a decidable-but-suitably-complex machine to troll first-year CS students < 1460943987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a hunch b_jonas is misspelling "vigil" < 1460944063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see... < 1460944087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no. 1 is decidable because it's a subset of 2 that doesn't reach the hard cases < 1460944109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK < 1460944153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for deciding mortality that is < 1460944278 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460944470 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460944989 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1460945283 0 :tromp!~tromp@24.190.11.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460945483 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just realized a horrible potential hole in my specification of Daoyu < 1460945559 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the program calls EXECS from the first-level program, which navigates to the top-level program data and then calls an EXECS from the top-level program data, < 1460945623 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unclear whether the EXECS should then act on the data already present or instantiate a new child of that program-data < 1460945638 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What say you? New branch or not? < 1460945851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: Whatever is less simple < 1460945854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's razor < 1460945893 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both are particularly problematic for the programmer - however, the second one is also particularly problematic for the implementer < 1460945919 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question, I suppose, is between self-interaction (which is a tenet of the language) and getting lost in trees of branching < 1460945998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: Keep languages focused on on the initial featureset rather than heaping new aspects of complexity onto them. < 1460946013 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really an addition but filling a hole < 1460946021 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460946026 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized that the functionality here was not specified but didn't know what to do with it... < 1460946047 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it stands, the current implementation just creates a new datatape when calling EXECS without checking to see if one exists, which.. < 1460946060 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leads to segfaults when it tries to follow the chain backwards < 1460946081 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But so far I haven't really made programs that rely on this distinction of functionality < 1460946112 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it would be imperative to have self-interaction instead of that sort of situation, then, because it would keep in line more with the rest of the language < 1460946175 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460946259 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently I think I have devised a generalizable format for making a state machine in the language, and am currently using this design to write a 99 bottles of beer program < 1460946331 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460946522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? manpage < 1460946525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manpage? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460946529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? womanpage < 1460946532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :womanpage? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460946543 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1460946692 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1460946729 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1460947332 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460947431 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460947476 0 :FreeFull_!?@? NICK :FreeFull < 1460947635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For far too long, power has been concentrated in the hands of "root" and his "wheel" oligarchy. We have instituted a dictatorship of the users. All system administration functions will be handled by the People's Committee for Democratically Organizing the System (PC-DOS). < 1460947719 0 :nitrix-!~nitrix@104.236.108.9 QUIT :Changing host < 1460947719 0 :nitrix-!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1460947723 0 :nitrix-!?@? NICK :nitrix < 1460947938 0 :picobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl JOIN :#esoteric < 1460948276 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460949010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1460949015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Co-administrator" < 1460949576 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460949647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460950236 0 :iconmaster_!~iconmaste@icon-thinkpad.wireless.rit.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460950639 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460950962 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yiqrvogtcfebxhky QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1460951229 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pqkqudomcvazovad JOIN :#esoteric < 1460951420 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pqkqudomcvazovad QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1460951439 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xyxuewyizdqcgybo JOIN :#esoteric < 1460951724 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xyxuewyizdqcgybo QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460951827 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1460951836 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hakxglwwiofybebf JOIN :#esoteric < 1460951936 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a 99 bottles program, what would be a good thing to work on in an esolang? < 1460952070 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text adventure? < 1460952101 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you write the truth program or Deadfish implementation? < 1460952125 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hakxglwwiofybebf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1460952271 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.firthworks.com/roger/cloak/index.html < 1460952435 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yhumumknbcsgpofy JOIN :#esoteric < 1460952891 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a truth program, so I suppose Deadfish will be next < 1460952923 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait, it involves squaring numbers < 1460952978 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame myself for making a language in which arithmetic is non-trivial < 1460953030 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: prove TC < 1460953050 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would love to but I haven't the slightest idea where to start here. < 1460953058 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a strong suspicion that Daoyu is TC, however < 1460953083 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460953100 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TC by Equivalency... BF in Daoyu does not seem very feasible. < 1460953158 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in sensible without extreme amounts of pain and suffeering < 1460953204 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: "modeled after two or so tenets..." you've got me < 1460953238 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad to see someone interested :) < 1460953335 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is any way to improve the wiki page, please tell me immediately < 1460953407 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1460953681 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: it would be helpful to have an explanation of child stacks and selections < 1460953703 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... how is a new path created? < 1460953720 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, should I put this before or after the commands? < 1460953725 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say before < 1460953809 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't see an example illustrating # < 1460953834 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, I forgot about that halfway through < 1460953847 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think an explanation of child tapes and selections should cover it, though < 1460954038 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is # the only way to make a child tape? < 1460954059 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1460954193 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1460954207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: bitwise cyclic tag is a popular equivalence target for very awkward languages < 1460954245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can make a queue, you're halfway there < 1460954280 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, this might work. I could extend the 0 and 1 into 0000 and 1000, and I think it could work pretty handily < 1460954482 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this explanation good? < 1460954558 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wait a second. Does the initial data-string also have to be arbitrary for it to be TC? < 1460954582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good question < 1460954622 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1460954690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*Note*: BCT remains Turing complete even if the initial data-string is always just a single 1." < 1460954693 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking that it ought to be rather decently doable, aside from that input problem, since using SIFTS, POLAR, and EQUAL, with 0 = 1000, 1 = 1001, nothing = 0000, would work well < 1460954697 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, very nice < 1460954740 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A problem, however, is in reading in the BCT program < 1460954770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the option of compiling it to a Daoyu program instead < 1460954795 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, because if I show that every BCT program is a Daoyu program, then it is still a proof < 1460954801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1460954839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as long as the construction is computable, but you don't need to do it in either of the languages themselves) < 1460954874 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm. I've written a utility in C for Daoyu which outputs the Daoyu source to construct an arbitrary Daoyu program < 1460954912 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partially, it's to make writing the 99 bottles program even remotely sane... < 1460955000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've written haskell utilities like that for other esolangs < 1460955024 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've recently bought a Scheme book, it seems very good < 1460955039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see /// and Emmental) < 1460955095 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, I would expect so indeed < 1460955151 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure... was implementing Daoyu in C the right choice? < 1460955165 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is fine < 1460955225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :C may not be the easiest language to implement interpreters in, but it does the job < 1460955246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is fast < 1460955284 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Necessary, for something like this < 1460955299 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make sense, honestly, to make a hardware implementation for this < 1460955331 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making a testing Daoyu program to debug some edge behavior of EXECS < 1460955509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: btw we have a table css class called plainpres which might make your code-in-table examples prettier (removes the borders) < 1460955573 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I just put that in < 1460955584 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks much better now :) < 1460955599 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, would it be a good idea to comment my example code? < 1460956316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1460956678 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :New EXECS functionality implemented and working, to the sweet sound of SEGVFAULT < 1460956788 0 :tromp!~tromp@24.190.11.216 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1460959484 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added the debug program to the page for some reason... Good night, all < 1460959753 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460960271 0 :picobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1460960403 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1460961680 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1460962240 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107.208.218.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1460962395 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460962667 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460962968 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules for Magic: the Gathering do not currently specify what happens if you try to add a snow mana symbol into your mana pool < 1460963027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a thing you can do, is it? < 1460963096 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there is any combination that would allow it < 1460963123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also can't add Phyrexian mana to your mana pool. < 1460963133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are consume-only symbols as far as I know. < 1460963143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you think of the new colorless mana symbol? < 1460963198 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is OK, I guess. I may have preferred a solid diamond or thicker but still hollow diamond, but it still works as is. < 1460963511 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460963565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I like that {1} was errataed to the new symbol. < 1460963574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When producing, I mean. < 1460963696 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I neither agree nor disagree. However I can note that even if it wasn't changed the effect would be the same. When the amount of colorless mana to add is large I would prefer the number though, and the rules do support it. < 1460963879 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think it can happen. You can add the mana cost of a card to your mana pool, but snow mana symbols can't appear in mana costs. < 1460963957 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1460965296 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460965528 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool they're analyzing now how much dialogue in movies is said by what gender. < 1460965891 0 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460966097 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460966372 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460966571 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? why the hell would they do that? < 1460966742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably also depend what movie, too. With a SQL database listing the movies and dialogues then you can divide to make the statistics whichever one you want to calculate. < 1460967015 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Gender studies of course. < 1460967230 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't like when newspaper try to dumb stuff down for the reader. That just reinforces inaccurate views. < 1460967412 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :gender studies? < 1460967461 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would someone do gender studies? all it is is going to cause arguments and excuses for people to moan < 1460967467 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably rigged too < 1460967535 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... if you see some difference you can either interpret it as good or bad. < 1460967548 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and convince people it is good or bad. < 1460967657 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460967894 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why you need to provide the raw data so that you can make your own calculation by SQL codes. < 1460967954 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1460968292 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1460968363 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't help you < 1460968383 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a matter of how you interpret the data :) < 1460968395 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25% people can speak french. < 1460968397 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's data < 1460968409 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't say squat about why, how and if it's bad or not. < 1460968439 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, if you're french you can get enraged and go yelling around "more people should speak french" < 1460968465 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can get enraged and go yelling around "too many people speak french" < 1460968722 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I stumbled upon a video on youtube, started to watch it < 1460968766 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then suddenly the speaker says "let me point out that this is not anti-jew propaganda" and then I'm like "uhm... why is he saying that" < 1460968778 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I read the title of the channel saying "worldwar three" and I'm like "uhm... what?" < 1460968804 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by stumbled I mean youtubes autoplay feature :) < 1460971223 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-217-18.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460971722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boring < 1460971726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460972315 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a ring in the category of bo < 1460972430 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: no, it's just... I'm in a half mind to `learn boring wisdom entries are added by b_jonas to trick others to replace them by good ones < 1460974597 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460974613 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1460974692 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460974754 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1460975193 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1460975209 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460976644 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1460977082 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460977131 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1460978550 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460978677 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460978818 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460978827 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1460978999 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you know there are some lines in the wisdom.pdf that are so long they don't fit in the page, right? There's an url in page 13, some lisp code in page 27, another url in page 42, < 1460979142 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a shell command pipeline in page 49, a headword in page 53. < 1460979200 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but thanks for the pdf anyway, it's a nice compilation, I'm glad you're makign it. < 1460979221 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas! < 1460979236 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, overlong lines are the bane of my existence. < 1460979406 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do you like them overlong lines? < 1460979446 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is not here! :( < 1460979454 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle.! < 1460979471 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie`: WHARGHRLGHGHBLFLGHBHRFHFHFHFHFWERRGRGGGGGGGGGRRRRHHH! < 1460980042 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1460980811 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slough < 1460980819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slough /slaʊ/ or /sluː/ means a marsh; slough /slʌf/ means skin thrown off a reptile < 1460980831 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/sluː/??? < 1460980900 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1460980937 0 :diginet_!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460980948 0 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ncehilbbjopxvzrp JOIN :#esoteric < 1460980961 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the UN denies Macedonia? what a world we live in... < 1460981029 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ha < 1460981032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha van szíved, hogy mindazt, mit elértél, / Ha kell, egyetlen kockára rakd, / s túltegyed magad, ha veszteség ér, / s ne legyen róla többé egy szavad < 1460981052 0 :pelegreno_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981057 0 :shikhin_!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981065 0 :Effilry!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981074 0 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981093 0 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981155 0 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tuwsdngclqelnomf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460981156 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460981156 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460981156 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1460981157 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460981159 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460981159 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1460981160 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1460981163 0 :diginet_!?@? NICK :diginet < 1460981209 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981209 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1460981209 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981225 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1460981226 0 :mbrcknl_!?@? NICK :mbrcknl < 1460981277 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: google translate doesn't help much. nothing lewd in there I hope? < 1460981304 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as if the Wisdom isn't already lewdfull enough as it is. reproductive organs everywhere...) < 1460981683 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1460981836 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INTERFACE CHICKEN < 1460982775 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1460982910 0 :fizzie`!?@? NICK :fizzie < 1460982928 0 :fungot!~fungot@82.68.182.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460982936 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's been very un-stabbel. < 1460982973 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily OVERFULL HBOX < 1460982973 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1460983084 0 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1460983239 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1460983453 0 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1460983462 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1460983736 0 :mysanthrop!?@? NICK :myname < 1460984261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's Szabó Lőrincz's translation of the same part of Kipling's poem as in `? if < 1460984825 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1460984835 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/incz/inc/ (duh) < 1460984835 0 :Effilry!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1460985709 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1460985749 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460986033 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NriDTxseog < 1460986060 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally tend to associate the west coast/california accents she makes with "mean rich arrogant non-nice white girls" < 1460986086 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like totally sooo not nice... < 1460986234 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NriDTxseog#t=3m05s ) < 1460986234 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-224.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:9: error: unexpected < 1460986235 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-224.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Operator without known fixity: < 1460986235 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-224.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ://, expected: space < 1460986235 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-224.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NriDTxseog#t=3m05s ) < 1460986235 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-224.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1460986238 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1460986241 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1460990360 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460990613 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1460990627 0 :I!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1460990646 0 :I!?@? NICK :Guest15642 < 1460991156 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460991226 0 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix QUIT :Quit: EOF < 1460991285 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1460991581 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should write a webserver in vbscript < 1460992114 0 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1460992197 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1460992673 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1460992900 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460993134 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460993729 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-217-18.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1460993937 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1460994251 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1460995149 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1460995157 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? font < 1460995169 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren's font < 1460995175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :font? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460995175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren's font? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460995246 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1460995462 0 :Guest15642!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1460996411 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yay < 1460996418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1460996422 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? no yay? < 1460996434 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it learn yay as YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! < 1460996498 0 :shikhin_!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1460996943 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1460997475 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1460997702 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181.34.113.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460997769 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1460998007 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1460999312 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181.34.113.149 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1460999434 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1460999528 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1460999687 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181.34.113.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1460999949 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nilwjvrhalyabmgg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1461000349 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461002172 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461002373 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181.34.113.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461002433 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461002695 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461003223 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461003307 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461003822 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461003905 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some magical fairy I can get that will tell me if I make stupid assumptions like "false is 0"? < 1461004454 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes, false is 0 < 1461004583 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're making stupid assumptions < 1461005035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461005039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A combination of log and floor allows you to seriously abuse math < 1461005158 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which combination? < 1461005226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: n^. = n/n^log_k (n) < 1461005249 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"log_k"? < 1461005254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Wait < 1461005262 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: n^. = n/n^floor(log_k (n)) < 1461005274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: _k means "subscript k" < 1461005280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: That's an operation that takes an integer (or real, maybe) and moves it to after the decimal point < 1461005293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1461005297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: n^. = n/k^floor(log_k (n)) < 1461005307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, that's right < 1461005351 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1461005364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Typically- but not necessarily- k is the base that n is expressed in (10, oftentimes), but it can be an arbitrary real to allow for non-place-value systems < 1461005404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Basically, the floor(log_k (n)) means "the number of digits it takes to write (integer) n out on paper in base k" < 1461006007 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461006008 0 :caradow!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461006122 0 :tromp_!~tromp@216.223.243.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the number of digits is one more than the floor(log()) < 1461006144 0 :tromp_!~tromp@216.223.243.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. 10 takes 2 digits < 1461006168 0 :tromp_!~tromp@216.223.243.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the number of Go positions takes 171 digits:) < 1461006219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: Saw that coming xD < 1461006319 0 :picobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461006370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Pseudoscientific Notation? < 1461006386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably similar to scientific notation, but it uses phi instead of 10 < 1461006422 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :base phi is p cool < 1461006563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but also useless in hard science < 1461007097 0 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> floor (log 0) + 1 < 1461007099 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805... < 1461007100 0 :int-e_!?@? NICK :int-e < 1461007146 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> floor (log 0 / log 10) + 1 -- oops, wrong formula ;-) < 1461007148 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805... < 1461007177 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t logBase < 1461007178 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a -> a < 1461008496 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t floor < 1461008497 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral b, RealFrac a) => a -> b < 1461008507 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what that integer is < 1461008512 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :log 0 is -infinity < 1461008525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: So the first digit of -infinity is 1? < 1461008541 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Apparently, yeah < 1461008544 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mod < 1461008545 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integral a => a -> a -> a < 1461008555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I've heard there's an algorithm to calculate the nth digit of pi < 1461008561 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mod 10 $ floor (log 0) < 1461008562 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805... < 1461008564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: What happens if you plug in infinity? < 1461008569 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip mod 10 $ floor (log 0) < 1461008570 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1461008577 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The last digit of -infinity is 4 < 1461008577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Huh. < 1461008603 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: And yeah, you can calculate the nth digit of pi without having to calculate all the preceeding digits < 1461008626 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spigot_algorithm < 1461008636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: So what happens if you plug in infinity, assuming that you have at least OK definitions of what happens when you math infinity? < 1461008701 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it doesn't work < 1461008712 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: It still takes an infinite amount of time to calculate < 1461008765 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461008766 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Actually, no < 1461008829 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461008848 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Either way, it seems you can't get an answer from it if you put in infinity < 1461009021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1461009042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the opposite of infinity is unfinity (the infinitessimal), rather than -infinity < 1461009054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the behavior of duality of operations change? < 1461009152 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461009407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> prime 2 < 1461009408 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘prime’ < 1461009412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> isPrime 2 < 1461009413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘isPrime’ < 1461009413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘isPrint’ (imported from Data.Char) < 1461009510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i is' 2 < 1461009521 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tfw you make a quick patch to a vm to help debug a problem in your program under the vm, and then, due to a shifting about of allocations, find the patch is now crashing the program < 1461009525 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461009876 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461010503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do fandoms have a concept of "Low Orbit Ion Canon"? < 1461010531 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you cured yet? < 1461010531 0 :fungot!~fungot@82.68.182.43 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ 15698... you should be on a different area at msn.com... thing was also to make it not know how to program < 1461010557 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1461010562 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad you're back, fungot < 1461010563 0 :fungot!~fungot@82.68.182.43 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: same source as five in my case < 1461010584 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461010608 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: putting absolutely every letter except "o" and "t" in esoteric. < 1461010608 0 :fungot!~fungot@82.68.182.43 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: sing me the budapest national anthem!!! o_o < 1461010795 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also asking me to sing songs I don't know. < 1461010848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Strangely appropriate < 1461010848 0 :fungot!~fungot@82.68.182.43 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i would screw it until i realized its generated :) < 1461010866 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...You were saying? < 1461010875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....wat < 1461011596 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1461011717 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461012055 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461012144 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1461012265 0 :caradow!?@? NICK :carado < 1461012481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FireFly < 1461012497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1461012505 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1461012507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of bad punnery is named after him. < 1461012513 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? selamat pagi < 1461012515 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :selamat pagi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461012550 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems I'm *still* not going to understand that anytime soon < 1461012565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat < wisdom/funpun | cat | rot13 | cat | cat > wisdom/shachaf < 1461012574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1461012578 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1461012580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1461012583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better hth < 1461012687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :InspireFly < 1461012860 0 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1461013897 0 :iconmaster_!~iconmaste@129.21.123.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461014200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461014312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461014741 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about impassionate bell peppers? < 1461014798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: :33 < ask the purrson who added that wisdom entry hth < 1461015182 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1461015364 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461016347 0 :I!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461016370 0 :I!?@? NICK :Guest72001 < 1461016539 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ppnjjdxtxztmgxxi JOIN :#esoteric < 1461016630 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn oren's font/\oren\'s font is http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm < 1461016646 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «oren's font» < 1461016669 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461016710 0 :testtesttest!26609942@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.96.153.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461016713 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Powerline characters"? < 1461016765 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn lifthrasiir's font/lifthrashiir's font is https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png < 1461016772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «lifthrasiir's font» < 1461016774 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? font < 1461016776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :font? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461016789 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many fonts??? < 1461016890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, why is it that 3 people in #esoteric have their own fonts? < 1461016894 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn font/#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz < 1461016897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «font» < 1461016913 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...make that 4.... < 1461016923 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461016924 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: because #esoteric is the international hub of esoteric programming, bitmap font making, and kitten typesetting < 1461016928 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: wait, who's the fourth? < 1461016930 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/font2x.png < 1461017007 0 :testtesttest!26609942@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.96.153.66 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1461017013 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it looks awful, that's because it's awful. < 1461017014 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: whoa, all in one wide strip. looks strange < 1461017040 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's laid out so that I can quickly write tools to put it into things. < 1461017078 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait < 1461017084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was one more, a vector font < 1461017091 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monospaced one with thin lines < 1461017095 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a custom format < 1461017098 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose was that again? < 1461017129 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1461017211 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was hppavilion[1] < 1461017233 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461017245 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: can you comment? remind us to screenshots or something? < 1461017258 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall it was horribly hinted < 1461017261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unhinted < 1461017263 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1461017269 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :made it look ugly < 1461017298 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose a monospaced font in a custom format would be the next logical step for a budding font author, unless they know how to use fontforge (note: I do not) < 1461017329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: this had some sort of eso purpose. more than the other fonts that is < 1461017356 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1461017371 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1461017393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no < 1461017423 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a font too, for rfk86. < 1461017434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461017434 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, come to think of it, why on earth did I paste the link to my x2 monospace font...? < 1461017494 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The x2 one doesn't have a good excuse for looking ugly!) < 1461017495 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://zem.fi/rfk86/ is written in it (if the web font stuff works out). < 1461017512 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wow, that is... one tiny font. < 1461017534 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it was strictly for that use, so I didn't strive for a big character coverage. < 1461017559 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the character encoding may be... broken... < 1461017562 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one tiny screen, 128x96. < 1461017570 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â" < 1461017590 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ characters copied from the "frame" < 1461017598 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid confusing mislabelled stuff < 1461017653 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. It works for me in Chrome, but it's possible it's not sending the character set. < 1461017697 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "Attempt to use an XML processing instruction in HTML." Which makes no sense. < 1461017746 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, yes, it's not quite kosher. Wonder how I never noticed. < 1461017764 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I pressed "View Source" in Firefox and there was a big red line. < 1461017767 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I hovered over it. < 1461017793 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The content is xhtml, but it's sent as "Content-type: text/html" with no charset spec. < 1461017810 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's common < 1461017813 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Firefox at least believes it's HTML, not XHTML... < 1461017827 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ above XML tag had the error < 1461017834 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kind of predates html5 being a big thing. < 1461017928 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will turn it into something more reasonable, but later. < 1461017941 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kittens have eaten the developer's link cable," :( kittens... i thought they were nice... < 1461017949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1461017956 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's this about a modernist sculpture out of the pieces of calculators < 1461017964 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1461017972 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was actually one rather big cat. < 1461017993 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cables can kind of look like cat toys. < 1461018035 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1461018038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1461018040 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1461018041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461018049 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I'm undocumented! Thank goodness < 1461018054 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world hasn't found a reason to mock me yet < 1461018097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was undocumented for quite long too < 1461018115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -r wisdom/b_jonas < 1461018121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: unknown revision 'wisdom/b_jonas'! < 1461018130 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1461018132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1461018135 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461018156 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat wisdom/b_jonas | rot13 < 1461018158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_wbanf rtl antlba gvgbxmngbf fmrzéyl. Ubyyégéeőy rtlryőer arz vfzregrx. < 1461018161 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461018179 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm out of tricks < 1461018272 0 :Guest72001!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1461018290 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log --template "{date|isodate}\n" wisdom/b_jonas < 1461018294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-01-18 06:32 +0000 \ 2016-01-17 13:56 +0000 < 1461018305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg_jonas < 1461018319 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I was undocumented until 2016-01 < 1461018413 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in other news, if you need a variety of stick figures for your web comic, and you don't want to draw them, look no further than U+16C0! < 1461018432 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had been looking at a bitmap font and noticed weirdness in that area < 1461018529 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461019205 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1461019227 0 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1461019242 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language that looks like valid C code but has completely different semantics could be fun < 1461019280 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1461019292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1461019294 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about: passing all values by-reference... making structures objects... and of course making "int" 1 bit in length. < 1461019307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("boolean" would be 256-bit.) < 1461019323 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone remind me what the translation commands are < 1461019332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461019333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :deprecated hth < 1461019335 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@201-238-5-105.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1461019365 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mediocre! < 1461019437 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, maybe a C compiler that treated all operations as function calls to a standard library... and then seriously screw up that library. < 1461019483 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like making "a += b;" be more like "(*a) = a[*b];" < 1461019545 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe add an actual increment in the process. (because the in-language ++ would, without fail, cause a segmentation fault) < 1461019766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1461019881 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking more like making even basic things, like the meaning of =, *, and {} completely different < 1461020060 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461020121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell rdococ what? why the hell would they do that? <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test < 1461020121 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1461020137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, was rdococ trolling < 1461020149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1461020181 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1461020185 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1461020185 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 10h 20m 12s ago: OVERFULL HBOX < 1461020203 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FIZZIELLO. OKAY. < 1461020217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye olde overfulle hbox < 1461020290 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"overfull hbox"? < 1461020298 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...?? < 1461020307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: a very common LaTeX warning message < 1461020317 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. TeX. Of course. < 1461020344 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamellomanj. do you have a github account? < 1461020351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically means that it didn't manage to split your text into lines satisfactorily < 1461020381 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hi < 1461020384 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There is a 50% probability. Please refine your question with informative information on the nature of why it was posed. < 1461020385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although sometimes it's small enough that you can just ignore it, anyway) < 1461020390 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: b_jellonas! < 1461020439 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: the questional informativeness pertains to the wisdomery collaborationism hth < 1461020449 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: he's trying to press gang you into sending wisdom pull requests hth < 1461020506 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say "press gang". more like "voluntarily devote oneself for the greater good". < 1461020533 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the Soviet Union renamed cities even in Hungarian? < 1461020535 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sorry for the boring wisdom entries I added. I mostly did it hoping that someone will stumble on them and replace them with something better. < 1461020552 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote boily: sorry for the boring wisdom entries I added. I mostly did it hoping that someone will stumble on them and replace them with something better. < 1461020558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1276) boily: sorry for the boring wisdom entries I added. I mostly did it hoping that someone will stumble on them and replace them with something better. < 1461020574 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461020578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also in German hth < 1461020616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boring < 1461020618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461020624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that wisdom entry never got added < 1461020631 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, I think the city _started_ as Sztálinváros, but then near 1985 people obsessively renamed every street and other name that could be linked in any way with the communist system or idols, and anything referring to Stalin, Marx, Lenin, or Engels definitely had to go. It's more complicated than that because some things were renamed twice, < 1461020656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Boring means of little interest. < 1461020659 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some street names did get renamed once under the Soviet rule and then back to their old name after 1990 < 1461020662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'boring': Boring means of little interest. < 1461020668 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461020670 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think that's happened to Dunaújváros < 1461020676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have a boring bank account < 1461020687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1461020699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to get any other kind < 1461020709 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the entries aren't boring. I am pondering about some recategorification, about langs (esoteric or not) and places (fictive or not quite exactly unfictive). < 1461020726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in case it isn't obvious, i went for meta up there) < 1461020728 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: _some_ of the entries aren't boring, yes < 1461020752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mix in good ones to stop people from just using the hg log to unconditionally revert everything I do < 1461020788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway i was thinking of http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.04.18 01:40:52 hth < 1461020790 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to disregard some reverts ^^ < 1461020811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i distinctly recall reading in wikipedia yesterday that Sztálinváros was renamed fairly early, long before communism ended but after stalinism did < 1461020815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway the joke is that interest rates are low < 1461020825 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: possible < 1461020834 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Stalin fell out of favor earlier or something < 1461020854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah < 1461020884 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The renamings cause some confusion when the older generation mentions the old street names and young people don't understand what they refer to. < 1461020909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he fell out of favor in the fifties. it took a bit longer to change the name. < 1461020928 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back in the 90s they handled it the sane way, by leaving the signs with the old street names up still readable, but crossed out. These days there's a new wave of more stupid renamings and they just change the signs overnight, which is much worse. < 1461020938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, they name everything of Széchenyi, which is boring. < 1461020972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that I don't like Széchenyi or anything, but if you name everything the same, that's bad. < 1461020983 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, I'd like something finally named of Erdős Pál. It's high time. < 1461021034 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people would compete on how many cities separate you from the one named Erdős Pál. < 1461021047 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, not cities. renaming towns is silly, they should stop that. < 1461021058 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about streets or institutions. < 1461021065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats boily -----### < 1461021121 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is swatted. ow. < 1461021126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a variant on Kleene Algebra that deals with translation rather than recognition? < 1461021147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, my computer didn't log me out of IRC when it was closed for a long period of time < 1461021164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a ton of messages just came through xD < 1461021181 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, if you live in Budapest for long enough, you'll eventually learn some of the more important old names. Népköztársaság újta == Andrássy út; November 7. tér == Nyugati tér; there's much more but I forget < 1461021202 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was something named about Lenin I think < 1461021209 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something with Október in the name < 1461021213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in theory you can describe a transductor with a regex that distinguishes input and output letters < 1461021222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ok... < 1461021230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if that's common in practice < 1461021246 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But is there something nice and pretty? Perhaps one that is based on string substitutions rather than strings? < 1461021254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just something that seemed obvious to me when learning about transductors < 1461021295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, kleene algabra is +, x (for lack of a better symbol), and *, where + alternates strings, x concatenates them, and * repeats an arbitrary number of times < 1461021304 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, the internet says Lenin körút == Erzsébet körút + Teréz körút, but that probably doesn't come up much because people just call it Nagykörút anwyay < 1461021336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm not sure if substitutions fit or not < 1461021347 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Majakovszkij utca == Király utca; and I was wrong above, November 7. tér == Oktogon; Marx tér == Nyugati tér; that's confusing < 1461021357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if we use trivial substitutions (that is, take a symbol and yield a different symbol) instead of trivial matches (take a symbol, fail if it doesn't equal to some internal constant symbol), then something probably happens < 1461021362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nugatti street < 1461021370 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, ah yes, I should've known this one: Felszabadulás tér == Ferenciek tere; it's probably the one I've heared the most < 1461021411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm apparently Nugatti is norwegian < 1461021419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be the same- x takes two symbols and replaces each based on an expression, + takes two symbols and expressions and tries applying one then the otehr < 1461021420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*other < 1461021427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what we have instead of Nutella, i guess < 1461021430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So all we need now is Trivial Substitution Notation < 1461021437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a/b] works < 1461021457 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a Gorkij fasor, but that's not a big street < 1461021470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe [a→b] < 1461021480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe drop the brackets < 1461021514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And that provides a basis for an s/// notation that /isn't/ a complete hack! Yay! < 1461021636 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there are 9 streets currently named of Damjanics within Budapest, although most of them are small, those all had a different name before 90 but I don't remember what < 1461021664 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one was close to where I grew up but I don't remember the old name < 1461021683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: [a/b] is equivalent to [a/][/b] hth < 1461021703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: True, true < 1461021708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you _fundamentally_ only need an input and an output alphabet that are distinguished < 1461021709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, not quite < 1461021732 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sweden has lots of streets named "Ny gatan", a really unimaginative name because "Ny" means new < 1461021734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming there are no backreferences. < 1461021752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not Nygatan? < 1461021764 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe "Nygatan" yes < 1461021772 0 :olsner!~salparot@83.252.205.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, Nygatan < 1461021781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, it isn't; [a/] matches a then appends nothing to the output, [/b] then matches the null beginning of the ny remaining input (so nothing) and adds b to the end of the output < 1461021781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly Nya Gatan < 1461021789 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1461021794 0 :olsner!~salparot@83.252.205.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another popular one is Storgatan (big street) < 1461021801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The input and output are completely independent < 1461021813 0 :olsner!~salparot@83.252.205.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though mostly in smaller towns :P < 1461021836 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, olsner: what surprised me is that most of the street names in Sweden were so short < 1461021841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they're not independent because you cannot match both in sequence without doing the equivalent of [a/b] < 1461021842 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have short ones too, but also normal length ones < 1461021856 0 :olsner!~salparot@83.252.205.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :short? they're all normal length :P < 1461021863 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most popular street names in Hungary are probably Kossuth Lajos utca and Kossuth utca < 1461021875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But if you allow the input and output to not both be exactly one symbol, then it doesn't work < 1461021877 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the quite short Fő utca is also very popular < 1461021878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Which you did < 1461021982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the place i live in trondheim (although not the street i'm on) has heaps of streets named after fairy tale figures. and the place in my hometown where my father lives has many of the same names. < 1461021988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a/b] != [a/][/b] because [a/][/b] matches an input that has an a (failing otherwise) and adds a b to the output (no matter what), whereas [a/b] matches an a and outputs a 'b' < 1461022014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1461022014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that in this case it won't add a b if a fails, but in the general case they can't be equivalent < 1461022020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: interesting, I don't recall having such names here < 1461022039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course there are plenty of historical figures that also are used in almost every town, like Ibsen. < 1461022057 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1461022076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungarian historical figures make up at least half of the street names here < 1461022091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course, this doesn't allow matching groups, which makes it effectively useless < 1461022109 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the ever popular Kossuth and Petőfi, the above mentioned Damjanics, but also lots of ones you've never heared about < 1461022130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are lots of streets not named of people < 1461022136 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys have many "Church Street" or equivalent? < 1461022163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least we don't put the same street name twice in a town, usually. < 1461022181 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, there's at least one Templom tér yonder in 19 < 1461022199 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: come to Montréal! if two stretches of asphalt align, even if they aren't connected, they have the same name! < 1461022225 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, that would make navigation SO MUCH less confusing < 1461022258 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having people tell you "meet at Corvin" and then either you have to ask for a clarification, or if you forget, guess from their age which Corvin they were likely thinking of < 1461022341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't see how they're not equivalent. < 1461022347 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@201-238-5-105.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461022350 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Let me think < 1461022373 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181-18-9-182.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1461022401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite version was "meet at Corvin, in the tram stop in the direction of Buda" (both directions of tram 6 eventually cross the Danube to go to Buda, and both Corvin are on the tram line 6) < 1461022455 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Budapest is a Lost City. < 1461022485 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: only when it's women who can't navigate and can't explain what they want or what they see or where to go try to tell you something < 1461022498 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: real men can give unambiguous descriptions easily < 1461022517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use a map, and not search for "Budafoki út" in Pest < 1461022523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Kirkeveien/Kirkegata are reasonably common i think. it's even used in the norwegian version of monopoly. < 1461022551 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you sound like you speak from experience... < 1461022581 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: checking the map, it says there are lots of streets named "Templom" something in Budapest, not only the one in 19 I knew about < 1461022589 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461022629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've been living here all my life, and still love the city, despite its faults < 1461022632 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes < 1461022653 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if the government manages to ruin Városliget like they're planning then I'll be VERY upset < 1461022691 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily: real men can give unambiguous descriptions easily <-- they just can't ask for them? < 1461022743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe women are experts at making maps < 1461022747 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can try to ask, yes. In the case when there is a small finite list of possibilities like "at Corvin, in the tram stop towards Buda" then definitely. < 1461022758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but when it's crystal ball territory with no starting point, then no, I can't really ask < 1461022774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i'm just expanding your gender stereotypes hth < 1461022780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461022789 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, it's like those newbies on IRC who ask like "my program doesn't work, and I didn't change anything" and you can't get anything specific from them < 1461022796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rdococ got me a bit in the mood) < 1461022830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would you say rdococ engendered the mood < 1461022853 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maps are a trouble too. I like the maps published by Topográf, because they're more readable than the more popular alternatives, but then they stopped making it (probably around the time people started using all the fancy digital touchscreen GPS stuff instead of paper maps) < 1461022856 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moodococ. < 1461022865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now there are no good enough maps of the town < 1461022896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enswats shachaf -----### < 1461022906 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno how that works at your place < 1461022911 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :paper maps that is < 1461022925 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it costs a lot to produce good ones and keep them up to date < 1461022927 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, it's sad < 1461022931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno i haven't used one in years < 1461022942 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish they made a better one < 1461022965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :last i looked for a place, i just used google maps. < 1461022978 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I do have to admit the Cartographia map (which is the most popular brand, and already was when Topográf was still in business) has improved, it's not as horrible as it used to be < 1461023011 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181-18-9-182.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461023012 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get myself a new map < 1461023032 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FUMIGATING CHICKEN < 1461023286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : then suddenly the speaker says "let me point out that this is not anti-jew propaganda" and then I'm like "uhm... why is he saying that" <-- aka "I'm not a racist but ..." which reminds me of http://www.dagbladet.no/tegneserie/zelda/?1460930400&d=-1 < 1461023296 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181-18-9-182.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1461023328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait since when does mroman idle < 1461023350 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i "I don't qualify my sentences, but..." < 1461023443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw that comic is not actually zelda. they're running two comics alternatively in the same spot and have confused themselves again.) < 1461023459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that this probably matters unless you're swedish < 1461023486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's "lilla berlin") < 1461023660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the two comics have a lot in common, being extremely liberal-themed and made by swedish women < 1461023675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from an american viewpoint, anyway) < 1461023694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in sweden this is probably just the default :P) < 1461023847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Ah am monologuing? -- Count Dookû, Darths & Droids ) < 1461023933 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we're still here < 1461023943 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461023965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the number of listeners matters for monologuing < 1461023975 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah