00:08:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:09:33 oerjan: if fizzie's the king of #esoteric, why do you have the throne? <-- just the evil throne. fizzie wisely refuses to use it. 00:10:15 `? `` sed -i 's/sneaky/kind sneaky/' wisdom/fizzie 00:10:29 time to pile on the adjectives 00:10:47 `? fizzie 00:10:54 fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg 00:11:05 -!- Elronnd has changed nick to Elronnd\StD. 00:11:09 sheesh 00:11:43 wait 00:11:48 i didn't even type what i meant 00:11:52 `? `` sed -i 's/sneaky/wise sneaky/' wisdom/fizzie 00:12:00 not sure where the word "kind" came from 00:12:11 i guess it was just a kind error. 00:12:17 must've been oerjan's kindness leaking through 00:12:40 `? oerjan 00:12:42 Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. 00:12:45 adjectival? 00:12:51 `` grep -r sneaky wisdom 00:12:58 wisdom/fizzie:fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg 00:13:04 what's the itymology on that one 00:13:11 because itym kind 00:13:19 ichtymology? 00:13:42 `learn Ichtymology is like itymology, but even more fishy. 00:13:46 Learned 'ichtymology': Ichtymology is like itymology, but even more fishy. 00:14:01 did I just officially invent a word? 00:14:04 yep. 00:14:08 cool 00:14:15 I can check that off my list 00:14:28 @where sneaky 00:14:28 dropFromEnd n xs = zipWith const xs (drop n xs) 00:14:46 how's that for sneaky hth 00:14:59 not very sneaky. 00:15:15 says you 00:15:17 @where sneaky2 00:15:17 lazyReverse xs = go xs (reverse xs) where go (_:xs) ~(y:ys) = y : go xs ys; go [] ~[] = [] 00:15:23 bam 00:15:25 maximum sneak 00:16:22 why isn't go just zipWith (flip const) 00:16:39 oh wait. 00:16:46 NEVER MIND 00:17:11 are you feeling snacky 00:17:15 so, I just bought this computer that can store real numbers 00:17:21 what can I do with it? 00:17:27 What, all of them? 00:18:02 shachaf: hm not in the right way, i think. 00:18:08 well, only a finite number of real numbers at any given time 00:18:19 but any of them 00:18:25 oerjan: do you mean that you want to snack rather than to be snacked 00:19:24 Koen_: Even uncomputable ones? 00:19:35 yep 00:19:49 -!- Opodeldoc has joined. 00:20:06 el numero real 00:20:29 Koen_: just get hold of Chaitin's omega and you're in business. 00:21:51 shachaf: as in, i already had some chocolate and now i might be slightly feeling the blood sugar falling again. 00:22:14 and although it's tempting to eat more, it might make it worse. 00:22:23 maybe just a tiny piece -> 00:22:27 it might make it better too 00:22:32 you never, like, know, man 00:22:54 oerjan: wait, I said store, not compute 00:23:15 -!- izabera has changed nick to `izabera`. 00:23:21 just because it could manipulate a number doesn't mean it could solve any equations of which that number is the solution 00:23:38 Koen_: darn. 00:24:23 Koen_: i guess it depends on what manipulations you can do. 00:24:43 Koen_: Can it store a number in constant time? 00:24:50 sure 00:25:01 there are some numbers that people would be highly interested in knowing whether they are rational. 00:25:13 e.g. e*pi 00:25:28 is that an open problem? 00:25:42 @src Real 00:25:42 class (Num a, Ord a) => Real a where 00:25:42 toRational :: a -> Rational 00:25:49 > toRational (e*pi) 00:25:51 *Exception: not a rational number: e * pi 00:25:51 surely some teacher would have mentioned it if it was 00:25:56 > toRational (exp 1*pi) 00:25:57 1201860745721117 % 140737488355328 00:26:03 hth 00:26:43 well, only a finite number of real numbers at any given time <-- you can compress a countable number of real numbers into a single one hth 00:27:06 yeah 00:27:17 I've been at some unease towards real numbers for a very long time 00:27:30 Koen_: yes, neither e*pi nor e+pi are known. 00:27:40 although they cannot both be rational 00:27:48 e+pi isn't known?? 00:27:58 there are some obvious gaps in our maths 00:28:19 <`izabera`> turns out it's hard to prove it 00:29:50 well, known whether rational or algebraic 00:29:50 how come I have never heard about that before? I have had math teachers!! 00:30:01 obviously you can calculate just about as many digits as you like. 00:30:43 "The best-known transcendental numbers are π and e." (wikipedia) 00:30:49 well apparently we don't know a lot 00:31:06 of course the expected result is that every combination of e and pi that doesn't have an obvious reason to be algebraic, is transcendental. 00:31:15 -!- ybden has quit (Quit: Not a typewriter). 00:32:52 e^pi is also known, as a consequence of being a value of i^(1/i). 00:32:58 er 00:33:10 * (-1)^(1/i) 00:34:06 * ski . o O ( ) 00:36:44 http://i.imgur.com/WcGcdkZ.png :( 00:37:09 does that mean we only have 11 transcendental numbers so far 00:37:45 <`izabera`> you misread 00:38:20 * ski . o O ( ) 00:38:48 "Any non-constant algebraic function of a single variable yields a transcendental value when applied to a transcendental argument. For example, from knowing that π is transcendental, we can immediately deduce that numbers such as 5π, (π − 3)/√2, (√π − √3)8 and (π5 + 7)1/7 are transcendental as well." 00:39:40 okay 00:40:33 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:40:39 well, this has been very interesting 00:40:42 thank you 00:41:02 hi ski 00:41:11 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 00:41:15 should i do a presentation about chu spaces 00:42:23 what sorts of "cool chu space facts" would you talk about 00:48:57 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 00:52:06 . o O ( if chu want ) 00:53:18 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 01:06:29 -!- `izabera` has changed nick to izabera. 01:19:24 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 01:22:09 :\ 01:22:33 what happened 01:24:18 hello 01:24:37 where did your backticks go? 01:24:48 gone with the wind 01:26:03 oh? i've always gound it rather difficult to get rid of ticks. 01:26:49 especially when they are on my back where I cant see or grab them 01:31:13 *found 01:32:33 that was fun :P 01:33:05 -!- Kaynato has joined. 01:33:45 no? what now? 01:34:21 the back ticks thing <.< 01:34:36 don't complain when people find your jokes funny 01:37:31 im not complaining, judt didnt realize you were talking about that 01:38:06 also ssssh about the bad puns. i dont want oerjan to have to get out the frying pan 01:45:44 "Skipping 0 bytes of junk at 0." 01:47:08 Anyone have any favorite non-esoteric (but probably still pretty much esoteric by modern standards) macro languages? 01:47:43 I think we had a m4 fan here? 01:47:55 m4 fans don't exist 01:47:57 I'm currently tinkering with TRAC, SAM76, TINT (which is a sort of TRAC clone/expansion), ML/I, and SNOBOL4 (not a macro language, I know). 01:49:08 Really TRAC, SAM76, Tint, and TTM are all kinda similar, especially the first three. 01:49:31 * oerjan injects quintopia with an experimental treatment for borreliosis 01:49:32 (SAM76 and Tint are intentionally derived from TRAC. TTM looks like it is, though the papers never mention it at all.) 01:50:15 side effects include extra appendices and rarely exploding 01:52:11 whoa whoa whoa 01:52:13 hi dnm 01:52:39 where would those extra appendices appear? 01:53:04 shachaf: Hey! 01:53:05 that's pretty varied. back of the head is common. 01:53:24 shachaf: LTNIRC 01:53:47 shachaf: How are you? 01:56:00 Oh, y'know. 01:56:41 Jamming it up. 01:57:20 Are you still in WA? 01:58:18 shachaf: yep! 02:02:41 I'm falling asleep again. 02:02:46 Bad schedule lately. 02:05:23 Our TTS reads "WA" in Finnish text by using the generic word pronunciation generator. I don't think that's right, but I'm not sure what *would* be. 02:06:08 Oh, something I learned only very recently. 02:07:01 If you ask Translate to read something out loud with the speaker icon, it reads first with the normal speed, but if you click on the speaker icon a second time, it does a really slowed-down thing. 02:08:02 I assume the idea is, if you (or whoever you're playing the result out) didn't catch it the first time, maybe trying to speak... very... slowly... will help. 02:09:41 i've noticed that, it seems to toggle on each click 02:09:47 Yes. 02:10:00 Although it resets to normal speed if you change the text. 02:15:07 -!- boily has joined. 02:17:37 -!- augur has joined. 02:18:28 vhoily. 02:18:57 vhellørjan. 02:19:10 vhellørjan... vhellørjan... it sounds quite nice on the tongue, eh? 02:19:17 vhellørjan 02:19:22 ♪♪♪ 02:19:57 vhell, maybe. 02:20:38 vhellochaf. 02:20:46 hmm... no. not as good. 02:27:20 virtual hell... 02:27:25 virtual hell of chat? 02:27:31 s/t\?/f?/ 02:28:01 vhzgrellop! 02:28:16 (no, I won't say it. I like my tongue unknotted tyvm hth) 02:29:19 It's a silent h, no? 02:29:41 maybe. i'm certainly not sure how to pronounce an h without a neighboring vowel. 02:30:22 or at least a stop. 02:32:18 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:37:44 -!- augur has joined. 02:42:31 -!- boily has quit (Quit: ADMINISTRATIVE CHICKEN). 03:01:11 -!- Akaibu has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 03:05:24 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:05:41 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 03:08:02 -!- xkapastel has joined. 03:23:59 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 03:25:32 -!- lambda-11235 has joined. 03:29:15 -!- Opodeldoc has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:29:45 -!- Opodeldoc has joined. 03:47:13 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:02:09 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 04:07:14 -!- augur has joined. 04:31:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:32:54 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 05:36:59 -!- adu has joined. 06:02:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:20:25 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 06:25:28 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:27:53 -!- Cale has joined. 06:28:01 ah, this is the missing channel :) 06:28:49 `? #esoteric 06:28:51 ​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. 06:29:42 `? Cale 06:29:43 Cale? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 06:29:51 ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 06:29:58 `zalgo Cale 06:30:28 No output. 06:30:35 `` echo Cale | zalgo 06:30:38 Ĉ҉aͤ͗l͎̽ē͚ 06:30:53 I think that's the only Haskell program left in HackEgo. 06:31:13 `quines/haskell 06:31:14 main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show"main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show" 06:31:33 Does that count as a Haskell program? 06:31:59 Should I get GHC 8? 06:32:11 I don't even know what to think about type applications. 06:34:09 Can you do e.g. data T where { T :: forall a. T }? 06:34:21 Instead of resorting to Proxy. 06:35:43 Actually, can you do something like (\ @t -> ...)? 06:38:55 Apparently we're switching to GHC 8 for our backend. 06:39:21 (but I haven't yet tried it) 06:39:56 I hear it has a warning when you have redundant type class constraints, which will be really nice in some of the code I work on...) 06:43:38 Time to learn about scones. 06:43:45 Do you have any "scone tips"? 06:44:51 It seems like it sort of defines an equivalence relation with some more structure. 06:45:39 Well, maybe that's a red herring, and the real point of it is the way set elements are mapped. 06:47:41 http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?p=239055 06:48:27 you can burn out (literally) everyone's neural system with 53 points 06:49:47 scones are supersymmetric partners of cones, obviously. 06:50:29 oerjan: i think it stands for "Sierpinski cone" hth 06:51:24 ah, good old sierpiński 06:51:43 `? sierpinski 06:51:46 sierpinski? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 06:52:41 lifthrasiir: What's a point worth? 06:53:20 shachaf: paper about scones for you, hth http://cheng.staff.shef.ac.uk/misc/cheng-cream.pdf 06:53:50 The URL gives it away. 06:53:53 shachaf: what do you mean? (for the record: I'm really not a GURPS and in general TRPG player so I'm unsure of the specifics) 06:54:19 lifthrasiir: I understand what "burn out everyone's neural system" might mean. But I have no sense for what 53 points is. 06:54:27 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:54:29 I have a theory as to where the universe came from- basically, what caused the big bang, in a universe where nothing can't cause something 06:54:49 shachaf: ah, points used to make an ability for players 06:55:02 My theory goes that there's /another/ universe where the laws of physics allows things to happen without cause 06:55:05 seems that 100 points are required for "normal" characters 06:55:07 lifthrasiir: Is it a lot? Is it a little? 06:55:11 hppavilion[1]: whoa, man 06:55:17 so 53 points are not that much 06:55:18 hppavilion[1]'s big bong theory 06:55:22 And some of the things that can happen without cause are new universes being spawned 06:55:30 and still you are fucked up with that ability 06:55:32 :p 06:55:34 shachaf: I'm not on marijuana ATM 06:55:59 and that's why your makefile is broken 06:56:17 shachaf: I much prefer ecstasy 06:56:41 (it's very annoying that there's no 'x' in "ecstasy" 06:56:42 ) 07:01:31 -!- contrapumpkin has joined. 07:02:33 contrapumpkin: what a contrarian 07:04:00 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 07:07:45 shachaf: be careful or he might challenge you to a dual. 07:18:41 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:31:43 -!- sebbu has joined. 07:54:02 -!- mroman has joined. 07:54:09 fitbit is getting sued for the heart rate sensor? 07:54:21 Why aren't they getting sued for the sleep stuff too 07:54:28 the sleep stuff is even more inaccurate . 07:54:33 @messages-luud 07:54:33 int-e said 5d 12h 28m 52s ago: the Burlesque shell is moving to http://64.137.252.151/~burlesque/burlesque.cgi ... and I may need help building the cgi (currently trying...) 07:54:33 int-e said 5d 12h 9m 50s ago: actually building the cgi seems to have worked fine (a cabal file would help though...) but you can't currently log in; please contact me about that... 07:54:48 oh :) 07:55:04 oerjan: based on irc activity i suspect that contrapumpkin is self-dual 07:57:56 @tell inte-e thx. I updated the link on my homepage. 07:57:56 Consider it noted. 07:57:59 crap 07:58:04 @tell int-e thx. I updated the link on my homepage. 07:58:04 Consider it noted. 07:58:37 that reminds me that the moonpage is still utterly incomplete :( 07:58:50 but it's just sooooo muuuch stuff that is still missing. 07:59:15 who the fuck decided to make something with 400 builtins that on average each have like 3 variations 07:59:22 must've been a total insane moron 07:59:40 String a, String b: Appends a to b then reverses. 07:59:47 like that was really needed 08:04:40 "Authors' Notes: Even though r_ can auto-map this built-in won't do the same expected job because pd will calculate the product of a Block. You may however use this fact as a shortcut for example for {0r_}m[pd. If you want to round every Double to the nearest Integer in a Block use )R_." 08:04:56 especially these comments about various usages and nice-to-know thing take a lot of work 08:05:03 s/thing/things 08:05:09 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Fnord). 08:05:35 oerjan: how come you didn't specify a quit message that time 08:05:45 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Quit: Bye). 08:10:49 oh int-e even pulled the latest changes 08:10:50 nice 08:46:58 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:10:27 From the Rust changelog: "The time complexity of comparing variables for equivalence during type unification is reduced from O(n!) to O(n). As a result, some programming patterns compile much, much more quickly." 09:30:34 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 09:35:41 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:39:06 O(n!) to O(n) is quite an optimization indeed 10:00:01 they just dropped the ! 10:01:31 They just worked quieter 10:01:39 Didn't shout 10:02:35 Haneb 10:02:48 any exams left? 10:02:55 O(n?) 10:03:12 can I use O(n?) if I'm not sure about how fast it is? 10:03:24 mroman: Presumably n? means zero or one ns. 10:03:25 that's the time complexity of regex matching 10:03:53 O(n{1-5}) 10:04:02 it's at least one n, but it might be up to five ns 10:04:06 it's {1,5} 10:04:09 damn 10:04:14 I'm not a regex guy 10:04:33 shachaf, I finished last week 10:04:46 then what's "either 1 times, 3 times, or 5 times"? 10:04:52 I thought that's a{1,3,5} 10:04:59 (n|nnn|nnnnn) 10:05:29 Ta(n) 10:05:34 arcTaneb 10:05:35 I like more powerful regex systems 10:06:07 I like regex systems with intersection and complement. 10:06:42 write a regex that matches factorials in unary 10:07:45 Regex is almost a fetish . 10:07:47 no such regex hth 10:08:17 shachaf: not the math kind of regex 10:08:34 Oh, the Perl kind where you can execute arbitrary Perl code? 10:08:58 no but you can use backrefs and (?! and (? the words i was looking for are negative lookahead and lookbehind 10:09:54 no that's cheating @arbitrary perl code 10:10:03 it's not 10:10:18 pcre has that 10:10:58 still doping. 10:11:29 length of backref etc. 10:11:32 and lookaheads 10:11:54 that's the non-cheating stuff 10:12:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 10:14:41 n(nn){0,2} 10:15:26 what does (? matches "test", if not preceded by something that matches ab{2,4}c{3,5}d 10:16:06 `wisdom 10:16:17 mroman: Nothing, because it's not legal. 10:16:17 `random-card 10:16:27 (? ah that 10:17:10 Pack's Disdain \ 1B \ Instant \ Choose a creature type. Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each permanent of the chosen type you control. \ MOR-C 10:17:10 infinitive//Infinitives are atomic verbs. They were first split in the 1940s, and the world hasn't looked back since. 10:17:21 Look-ahead assertions can be arbitrary, but look-behinds are fixed-width only. 10:17:37 isn't that more of a bug? <.< 10:18:39 can you capturae a lookbehind? 10:18:42 It's a feature of PCRE as well. 10:19:05 I don't think you can capture any of the assertions, since they're not part of the match, but not sure. 10:19:06 there's nothing to capture in a /negative/ lookbehind 10:19:08 Certainly not a negative one. 10:19:29 if you want a "positive" lookbehind just use (a)b 10:19:42 Then it'd be part of the matched string, though. 10:20:10 (a)\Kb might work. 10:20:16 ah yes, a stronger black version of Coordinated Barrage, which goes for any creature, not just an attacking one. 10:20:44 `random-card 10:20:46 Jawbone Skulkin \ 1 \ Artifact Creature -- Scarecrow \ 1/1 \ {2}: Target red creature gains haste until end of turn. \ EVE-C 10:21:04 (\K can sort-of do arbitrary positive lookbehind, because it's just adjusting the starting position of the match.) 10:22:28 `` perl -e '"foobar" =~ /(?<=(f..))bar/; print "$1";' 10:22:29 foo 10:22:35 Guess you can capture in a positive one. 10:23:23 `` perl -e '"foobar" =~ /(f..)bar/; print "$1";' 10:23:28 foo 10:23:53 `` perl -e '"foobar" =~ /(f..)bar/; print "$1 $&";' 10:23:56 foo foobar 10:23:56 `` perl -e '"foobar" =~ /(f..)\Kbar/; print "$1 $&";' 10:23:57 foo bar 10:24:12 fine 10:24:32 Possibly much more relevant in a s///. 10:25:11 The perldoc gives s/(foo)bar/$1/g as an example that can be rewritten as "the much more efficient" s/foo\Kbar//g. 10:26:06 why is that more efficient? 10:26:18 "For various reasons", to quote the doc. 10:26:31 -!- Koen_ has joined. 10:26:31 i can't think of any 10:26:34 "For various reasons "\K" may be significantly more efficient than the equivalent "(?<=...)" construct, --" 10:26:57 but you didn't use (?<= <.< 10:27:25 Oh. Well, that's true. 10:27:33 Maybe capturing is expensive. 10:28:03 They don't elaborate -- presumably it's obvious to people privy to the implementation internals. 10:28:35 "The use of "\K" inside of another look-around assertion is allowed, but the behaviour is currently not well defined." 10:28:36 i don't really know how perl is implemented but there's no performance difference with regexec 10:30:31 regexec doesn't really do substitution, so that'd depend on what you do after. 10:31:03 It'd be reasonable that s/(foo)bar/$1/g would end up involving copying the "foo" substring where s/foo\Kbar//g would not. 10:31:09 yeah but you just get a pointer to the beginning and end of the match 10:32:49 why is (?!a|bc) valid? 10:32:51 Sure, but you'd need to copy the captures out, then do a whole expand-$1 thing when reconstructing string. 10:32:52 err 10:33:00 (? what is it doing 10:33:16 I wish Perl or PCRE used intersection instead of lookaround. 10:33:38 I don't think it's valid per the documentation. It might do *something*. 10:33:40 oooh have you seen that video about regex derivatives? 10:34:23 a guy at google gave a talk about his regex engine 10:35:04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJOgDovsIsg 10:36:37 `` printf '%s\n' ax bcx x cx | grep -P '(? x \ cx 10:36:47 so this is a bug in pcre? 10:37:30 They don't really specify what happens if it isn't fixed-width. 10:37:41 `` printf '%s\n' ax bcx x cx | grep -P '(? grep: lookbehind assertion is not fixed length 10:37:48 that ^ 10:37:51 Oh, PCRE actually allows that. 10:37:58 "However, if there are several top-level alternatives, they do not all have to have the same fixed length." 10:38:01 It's a special case. 10:38:09 oh ok 10:38:20 cool 10:39:32 Guess it makes sense, since (? `` perl -e 'print join(" ", grep(/(? Variable length lookbehind not implemented in regex m/(? Not in Perl though. 11:03:14 [wiki] [[VL]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47072 * 82.109.33.252 * (+2579) An esolang loosely based on vim commands. 11:04:13 mroman: hi! 11:04:34 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47073&oldid=47070 * 82.109.33.252 * (+9) /* V */ 11:05:33 mroman: basically I lost all data from the old VM so I built burlesque from the git repo. I also lost your public ssh key. 11:06:36 int-e: Certainly cloud-could-cost couldn't have let you down! 11:07:44 fizzie: No, of course not. I had a lot of interesting kernel messages... :P 11:08:56 oh the new one had a spontaneous reboot. NICE, keep up the good work. 11:14:44 and I had no important data on there; the burlesque shell was/is the most important service running there :P I just should've saved the ssh key and perhaps the cgi executable somewhere else 11:24:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 11:29:09 -!- Koen__ has joined. 11:31:48 -!- Koen_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 11:33:21 -!- bender has joined. 11:43:41 -!- bender has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 11:59:43 `? ^͙̬̬̦̯_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ 11:59:45 ​^͙̬̬̦̯_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 12:02:26 ``` cat wisdom/_* 12:02:28 _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ 12:03:44 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Nosomebodies * New user account 12:03:49 `slashlearn laughed/They laughed when I said I wanted to be a comedian. They're not laughing now! 12:04:00 Learned «laughed» 12:04:22 b_jonas, that sounds quite half baked 12:10:16 [wiki] [[ANItka]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47074&oldid=47062 * 94.254.242.190 * (+1) 12:13:16 Taneb: that one is popularly attributed to an English comedian called Bob Monkhouse 12:13:25 Ah 12:13:30 I know it from Mezzacotta 12:14:20 Taneb: yes, it was quoted there, that's the apropos, but still 12:26:25 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:34:52 -!- Koen__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:35:15 int-e: everything turned out fine so :) 12:35:21 thanks for keeping the shell available 12:35:37 [wiki] [[User:Nosomebodies]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47075 * Nosomebodies * (+1270) Created page with "++++++++++[>+>+++>+++++++>++++++++++<<<<-]>>>--. >+++++++++++. -. <<+++++++++. >>++++++. <<-------. >>. ---------------. +++++++. . <<. >>+. --------. <<. >>++++++++++++++++++..." 12:35:38 even though it's probably extremely rarely used :D 12:38:19 `? slashdot 12:38:31 slashdot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 12:39:01 -!- Koen_ has joined. 12:42:23 -!- astslash has joined. 12:42:55 -!- astslash has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:56:23 mroman: well you can't update it atm... I'd like to give you access again 12:56:52 Do you need a public key? 12:57:18 or is password fine? 12:57:18 yeah 12:57:20 ok 12:57:21 public key 12:57:46 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:57:58 http://codepad.org/RYN4fEsm 12:58:00 ^- there you go 12:58:46 cheers, added. 13:00:17 works :) 13:00:36 great, that's all I wanted 13:00:51 -!- contrapumpkin has changed nick to copumpkin. 13:01:55 you're welcomed to the 5 years burlesque party next year :D 13:02:47 hah 13:25:56 mroman: there's a party? great 13:41:57 -!- ybden has joined. 13:58:03 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:09:34 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:15:42 -!- Koen_ has joined. 14:27:15 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:47:33 -!- Koen_ has joined. 15:24:08 -!- spiette has joined. 15:27:35 -!- APic has changed nick to A. 15:27:40 -!- A has changed nick to APic. 15:28:54 I should try if I can make a redirect from eso.mroman.ch/cgi/burlesque.cgi to the new location of the shell... 15:38:58 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:42:38 `? homogenous 15:42:39 `? homogeneous 15:43:08 homogeneous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 15:43:09 homogenous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 15:43:59 `? contiguous 15:44:01 contiguous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 15:44:02 `? continuous 15:44:03 continuous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 15:45:55 -!- dnm has quit. 15:48:13 -!- mroman has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 15:59:42 -!- augur has joined. 16:02:26 -!- xkapastel has joined. 16:09:57 -!- Opodeldoc has quit (Read error: Connection timed out). 16:30:33 -!- lambda-11235 has joined. 16:41:32 -!- ybden has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:41:53 -!- ybden has joined. 16:51:03 <\oren\> wawazzat? 16:52:38 <\oren\> i prefer 3% milk but mcdonalds only has 2%... argh 16:58:40 So 16:58:41 In C 16:58:57 I want to typedef an array of arrays of pointers to a struct 16:59:02 What on earth is the syntax for that 17:13:11 -!- gamemanj has joined. 17:22:28 -!- Koen_ has joined. 17:28:03 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:28:21 Taneb: That's just typedef struct foo *bar[12][34]; 17:28:28 -!- testbot_ has joined. 17:28:41 -!- testbot_ has quit (Client Quit). 17:28:44 17:28 ,english typedef struct foo *bar[12][34]; 17:28:44 17:28 fizzie: Declare `bar` as another name for an array of 12 elements of an array of 34 elements of pointer to a `foo` structure. 17:29:28 david_werecat.jackal: points 11.81, score 33.25, rank 6/47 17:32:40 fizzie, I think I had something else wrong 17:37:13 -!- atrapado has joined. 17:38:15 -!- Kaynato has joined. 17:49:20 -!- hwpplayer1 has joined. 18:04:55 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:05:56 -!- Koen_ has joined. 18:12:07 -!- zzo38 has joined. 18:13:58 -!- augur has joined. 18:21:27 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:50:49 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:51:22 -!- augur has joined. 18:53:39 <\oren\> struct foo; 18:53:56 david_werecat.jackal: points 12.19, score 33.78, rank 4/47 (+2) 18:55:06 <\oren\> typedef struct foo *bar[34][12]; 18:56:59 david_werecat.jackal: points 12.38, score 34.05, rank 4/47 (--) 18:57:08 <\oren\> aaa why would anyone want copying text out of a terminal to keep the formatting?!?!? 18:58:47 Sometimes you might want; possibly other key can indicate to copy ANSI codes for the formatting or not. 18:59:53 \oren\: http://slbkbs.org/structish.txt hth 19:10:13 <\oren\> it doesnt just keep text colors it also keeps the white on black and the font you set 19:11:20 <\oren\> lucky i found the setting to turn that off 19:17:14 -!- inap has joined. 19:24:54 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:26:43 I have received a lot of request in a short time period for the root of my HTTP server, all from curl and from varying IP addresses in the range 24.48.178.* 24.48.179.* 24.48.180.* 24.48.181.* do you know what this is? 19:30:37 -!- impomatic_ has joined. 19:34:32 Can I make directory listings on my server to appear different when accessed by wget? When wget accesses a directory listing I want to remove the icons, the parent directory link, and the links for sorting. 19:36:22 zzo38: Yes, you can do it. 19:38:03 What is commands to program in such thing in Apache? 19:39:13 > (sqrt 3) == 2 * (exp 1) / pi 19:39:15 False 19:39:32 > ((sqrt 3),2 * (exp 1) / pi) 19:39:33 (1.7320508075688772,1.7305119588645301) 19:39:48 I blame floating point inaccuracy 19:39:53 zzo38: Oh, I figured your web server would be written in Visual Basic for Applications, or modified Z-code, or something. 19:40:06 Oh wait, they diverge way too early for that 19:40:10 Nvm 19:40:13 I don't know how to make Apache do it. Maybe you have to modify the code. 19:40:31 But you can always write your own program to do directory listing, instead of using the Apache built-in program. 19:44:37 > (cos (pi/7)) + (cos (3*pi/7)) + cos (5*pi/7) 19:44:39 0.5000000000000001 19:44:59 This one should be exactly 0.5 19:47:32 I found a bug in SHEGOC when the label of a menu item started with a digit, but I fixed it. 19:59:16 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:23:32 -!- Koen_ has joined. 20:24:28 -!- Koen_ has quit (Client Quit). 20:29:26 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Quit: Bye). 20:54:26 -!- Reece` has joined. 20:59:03 <\oren\> my server has a program for the directory listing 20:59:45 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:02:02 that's been invented like 50 years ago 21:10:52 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 21:11:23 I have, for the first time in my life, written a makefile 21:15:10 -!- Sgeo has joined. 21:18:36 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:19:16 -!- augur has joined. 21:23:50 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:30:25 Idea of Magic: the Gathering card like: {?} Creature - ? (0/1) ;; Banding, Rampage 1 ;; All creatures able to block ~ must do so. ;; If ~ attacks, no other bands can attack. 21:49:16 * gamemanj takes a random look at his chat window for the first time in a while 21:49:28 3 cheers for Taneb! 21:49:36 2+1 cheers for Taneb! 21:49:40 1+2 cheers for Taneb! 21:51:25 Do you like this kind of cards? 21:52:49 zzo38: I don't think I like banding. 21:52:53 Though I've never played with it. 21:56:05 Banding is pretty good. It is one of the creature keyword abilities I like best. 21:57:32 More tactics can be involved in combat when some cards can have banding then you can decide which bands and so on 21:58:03 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:59:47 -!- sebbu has joined. 22:02:15 New what-if, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet 22:02:22 I like this one, but it isn't very destructive 22:02:32 (Unless, of course, you manage to turn rainbows into lasers) 22:08:09 -!- gamemanj has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:09:10 -!- Reece` has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:13:10 [wiki] [[VL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47076&oldid=47072 * 31.185.252.84 * (+0) /* Examples */ 22:18:37 non-high-definition VHDL? 22:22:30 -!- inap has left ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 24.5.1)"). 22:24:19 <\oren\> spacex is launching another F9 right now 22:45:11 -!- spiette has quit (Quit: :qa!). 23:33:27 \oren\: One moment, allow me to look up what the F9 key does for the following joke 23:34:56 \oren\: I guess they must do a lot of measurement? 23:36:35 -!- moon_ has joined. 23:36:41 Hello 23:36:54 `ls 23:37:20 `query hackego 23:37:39 ​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf 23:37:39 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: query: not found 23:38:27 hi hppavilion[1] 23:40:43 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:40:53 hia oerjan 23:41:32 helloon 23:41:53 * oerjan cackles adjectivally 23:43:20 `med 23:43:26 No output. 23:43:52 `? rødgrød med fløde 23:43:56 rødgrød med fløde? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:44:21 `learn med is a simple text editor for hackego 23:44:27 Learned 'med': med is a simple text editor for hackego 23:44:49 `learn med is a simple text editor for HackEgo. 23:44:54 Relearned 'med': med is a simple text editor for HackEgo. 23:45:14 * oerjan punctuates moon_ with the saucepan ===\__/ 23:46:25 * moon_ slimes oerjan with the snail cannon 0== 🐌 23:47:07 moon_: tabs don't transfer well in irc hth 23:47:15 (i see an inverted I) 23:47:16 i didnt use one 23:47:22 yes you did. 23:47:36 unless you actually used an I with inverted color codes. 23:47:40 freenode's builtin irc doesnt allow hackegos 23:47:46 what 23:47:48 lol 23:47:51 :P 23:47:51 *tabs 23:48:09 i was thinking and typing at the same time, it never ends well 23:48:26 * oerjan investigates. 23:48:39 the tunes logs have an actual tab character there. 23:48:55 unicode error or me making a cpy-paste wrror 23:49:03 8error 23:49:05 *error 23:49:13 i'm going to assume the latter. 23:49:17 oerjan: "investigate" sounds like some scandal in the stock market 23:49:25 i^ 23:49:45 moon_: perhaps the web irc doesn't allow you _typing_ a tab, but still lets you paste one. 23:49:51 yea, maybe 23:50:00 -!- hppavilion[1] has set topic: The interdisciplinary hub of solidity matrices | Ingredients: Hydrogen, time, stevia | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 23:50:28 thinking and typing at the same time is actually known to have positive effects 23:50:46 shachaf: No, you're supposed to think, /then/ type. 23:50:51 ^ 23:51:02 i type my thoughts sometimes 23:51:06 hppavilion[1]: well spotted, you may become a punster yet. 23:51:06 shachaf: Thinking and typing at the same time doesn't allow you to revise your thoughts before typing 23:51:09 i was thinking about hackego then 23:51:45 which resulted in: freenode's builtin irc doesnt allow hackegos 23:51:50 shachaf: Also, stream-of-consciousness writing goes REALLY badly with certain psychological conditions 23:51:51 yes 23:51:53 everyone noticed 23:52:45 #esoteric: May contain crude drawings of nuts 23:52:57 (TREE nuts) 23:53:03 Yea, that goes nicely 23:53:13 replace the ingredients joke with it 23:53:17 moon_: i was assuming you pressed an actual tab, which got tab completed to HackEgo. wait, that doesn't even make sense without the capitalization. 23:53:25 moon_: It should probably go /with/ the ingredients joke 23:53:34 oh, your right 23:54:07 `? #esoteric 23:54:12 ​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. 23:54:20 Maybe we should just make the topic "The international hub of esoteric programming", followed by a link to the expanded topic, which would be many thousands of sections long, and would serve in and of itself as a corpus for fungot 23:54:20 hppavilion[1]: they say that a sink looks different from high above the water and make them visible. ( bulfinch's mythology, by david gerrold) 23:54:26 `learn_append #esoteric May contain crude drawings of nuts. 23:54:30 Learned '#esoteric': #esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. May contain crude drawings of nuts. 23:54:55 oerjan: That works too 23:55:07 `unicode NUT 23:55:13 U+004E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N \ UTF-8: 4e UTF-16BE: 004e Decimal: N \ N (n) \ Lowercase: U+006E \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U \ UTF-8: 55 UTF-16BE: 0055 Decimal: U \ U (u) \ Lowercase: U+0075 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0054 LATIN C 23:55:19 `learn_append #esoteric Contains only free ranging moons. 23:55:20 -!- hppavilion[1] has set topic: The interdisciplinary hub of solidity matrices, esoteric programming language design, and font forging | Ingredients: Hydrogen, time, stevia | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 23:55:22 Learned '#esoteric': #esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. May contain crude drawings of nuts. Contains only free ranging moons. 23:55:38 There. Now the topic is descriptive. 23:55:48 `unicode NUT AND BOLT 23:55:51 U+1F529 NUT AND BOLT \ UTF-8: f0 9f 94 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddd29 Decimal: 🔩 \ 🔩 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 23:56:02 Hm, is this channel primarily prescriptivist or descriptivist? 23:56:06 wow, 🔩 narnia! 23:56:10 There's also a CHESTNUT and a DOUGHNUT. 23:56:23 both hppavilion[1] 23:56:25 both 23:56:31 moon_: "primarily" 23:56:39 both 23:56:44 its 50% 50% 23:56:49 hppavilion[1]: the expanded topic is just the entire tunes logs hth 23:56:50 I advise that the channel officially take on the prescriptivist ideology 23:56:58 oerjan: ...Huh. 23:57:10 s/prescriptivist/descriptivist/ 23:57:32 (Take note: An actual example of irony, once the s/// is applied) 23:57:53 you mean `sed 's/prescriptivist/descriptivist_' 23:58:22 hppavilion[1]: i'd describe this channel as prescriptivist, but i'd certainly not make it a rule hth 23:58:24 moon_: No, I just mean s///. s/// is used in conversation on IRC as well as being part of HackEgo 23:58:50 * moon_ slimes hppavilion[1] over proper syntax 0== 🐌 🐌 🐌 23:58:54 s/x/y/ means "correct whichever message this makes most sense on" 23:59:02 ik 23:59:17 moon_: Strictly speaking, it's still correct syntax; it just isn't the HackEgo bottrig 23:59:35 🔩 looks like a bolded To 23:59:48 It's a bit iffy to complain about "correct syntax", what with that underline.