< 1465344026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the smallest known factor of 10^10^100+1 is 316,912,650,057,057,350,374,175,801,344,000,001 < 1465344041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God I love impractically large numbers < 1465344097 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any number n suffixed with "-plex" is 10^n < 1465344103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :threeplex, for example, is 1000 < 1465344212 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. megagon. < 1465344233 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, no, not megagon. < 1465344292 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :megiston! < 1465344323 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a googolplex is a hundredplexplex? < 1465344333 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, while search-completing graham's number on wikipédia, this happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammillaria_grahamii ) < 1465344367 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION erases that from her browser history < 1465344441 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:00:26 hppavilion[1] | Hm, the smallest known factor of 10^10^100+1 is 316,912,650,057,057,350,374,175,801,344,000,001 <- just how did they manage to find it? < 1465344461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Who gives a fuck? < 1465344464 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1465344468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Oh. < 1465344473 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a browser history? < 1465344482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reevaluates his fuckgiving detection algorithm < 1465344484 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't found a way to disable it < 1465344497 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a brother but that's history < 1465344498 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465344514 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry to hear < 1465344520 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But they probably used exp-mod. I think it generalizes to up-arrow < 1465344526 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: isn't there an option to clear all memory everytime you close the browser? < 1465344549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I suppose it is (googolplex = hundredplexplex) < 1465344587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googolmilliplex < 1465344600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googol + 1_000_000 plexes < 1465344641 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cockburn is a very unfortunate surname < 1465344655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I now have about a googol tabs open < 1465344712 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will be in philly in the weekend < 1465344743 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nearest airport is phl: philadelphia international < 1465344754 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the corresponding metar station < 1465344758 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be kphl < 1465344801 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KPHL < 1465344801 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPHL 072254Z 30008KT 10SM FEW060 SCT140 SCT250 26/12 A2950 RMK AO2 SLP989 T02560117 PNO $ < 1465344809 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right. < 1465344814 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1465344814 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 072300Z 27008G15KT 30SM FEW025TCU FEW050 FEW100 SCT240 18/12 A2941 RMK TCU1CU1AC2CI2 TCU TR CU TR SLP959 DENSITY ALT 1100FT < 1465344836 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy towering cumulus batman... < 1465344861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People being able to read @metar output scares me < 1465344892 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't read it < 1465344898 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping boily would translate those < 1465344927 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me do that... < 1465344971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the complex equivalent of a Googolplex? That is, the canonical really-fucking-big complex number? < 1465345032 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't googolplex count as a really-fucking-big complex number? < 1465345055 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPHL: report made at 10:54pm UTC June 7th. winds from the northwest, 8 knots. ground visibility 10 miles. few clouds at 6000', scattered clouds at 14000' and at 25000'. temperature is 26 °C, dew point 12 °C. QFE is 29.50 inHg. random automated trend stuff. weather station needs maintenance. < 1465345113 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar TRN < 1465345121 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wrong code < 1465345167 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LIMF < 1465345167 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIMF 072250Z 27004KT 9999 TS VCSH SCT030CB 21/15 Q1021 < 1465345183 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL: report at 11:00pm UTC June 7th. west winds, 8 knots with gusts at 15. ground visibility 30 miles. few clouds at 2500' with towering cumulus. few cumulus at 5000'. few altocumulus at 1000'. scattered cirrus at 24000'. temperature 18 °C, dew point 12 °C. QFE is 29.41 inHg, QNH is 995.9 hPa. < 1465345206 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do LIMF plz < 1465345305 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIMF: report at 10:50pm UTC June 7th. west winds, 4 knots. no ground visibility limit. thunderstorms, with showers in the vicinity. scattered clouds at 3000'. don't know what CB is. temperature 21 °C, dew point 15 °C. QNH is 1002.1 hPa. < 1465345318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ...crap < 1465345338 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: are you Italian? < 1465345343 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessir < 1465345427 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Z mean UTC? < 1465345453 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how does 3000 or 2700 mean "northwest" and "west" < 1465345481 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only the first three digits that are part of the compass hth. < 1465345486 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: yes. < 1465345492 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CB is cumulonimbus. < 1465345519 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 300 degrees clockwise from north? < 1465345529 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. < 1465345536 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1465345537 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1465345539 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :battery low < 1465345542 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go < 1465345545 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy the show < 1465345549 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodbye~ < 1465345570 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintonne soiréeia! < 1465345627 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime izabera < 1465345627 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for izabera is Tue, 07 Jun 2016 23:27:07 +0000 < 1465345646 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's on my vps < 1465345652 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :local time is 01:27 < 1465345908 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that google provides accurate stats on m:tg cards? http://i.imgur.com/C0YS9Y5.png < 1465346019 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1465346098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the power n^m corresponds geometrically to the (hyper)volume of an m-cube with side-length n, what's tetration, anyway? < 1465346271 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if m is not an integer? < 1465346360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Then you are dealing with a very strange universe < 1465346380 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :haussdorf dimension < 1465346638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465347182 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to quibble about all the disagreeing fractal dimensions but i guess hausdorf is more or less semantically what hppavilion described < 1465348779 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1465348779 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1465349169 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1465349265 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :My < 1465349276 0 :My!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1465349356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: do you know anything about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homology_(biology) <-- i've heard the term hth < 1465349382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was going to make a placenta/placebo pun somehow. < 1465349404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I was reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placenta and it talked about homology of placentas and it reminded me of you. < 1465349421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465349477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite reconstructing my train of thought there. < 1465349502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1465349666 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exqscgiqdhdmswyn JOIN :#esoteric < 1465349777 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: remember, oerjan is a Frost Giant hth < 1465349778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :åhoily! finally, we reach the end. < 1465349798 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iashwsydnqpokgwa JOIN :#esoteric < 1465349805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you øhoilyd? < 1465349812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure < 1465349836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :back on the 3rd < 1465349858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 5 days ago! < 1465349906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should have gone the {hoily path instead. < 1465349922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would soon give unprintable characters. < 1465349935 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the porthoily that shan't be named. < 1465349990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a giant and i haven't even seen Frost hth < 1465350013 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how tall are you? < 1465350058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i used to be 1.82 m, i cannot remember what it was last time i measured < 1465350096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm not even sure when. < 1465350136 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, 6'. quite tall. < 1465350144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1.82m -> feet < 1465350153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :behold the hopeless command < 1465350204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465350209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1.82m -> feet < 1465350211 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a giant is going to be even more tall isn't it? < 1465350218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :behold the still almost hopeless command < 1465350225 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then fix it < 1465350227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you'd think. < 1465350246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the problem isn't the command itself, but HackEgo's bad server that times out < 1465350247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465350252 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1465350258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsaikitten//Bonsaikitten is the cat typing behind the glass of the CRT when you run the cat command. < 1465350259 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a faster program < 1465350277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: frink is a programming language < 1465350291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which units < 1465350292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/units < 1465350295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1465350321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`units 1.82m -> feet < 1465350324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error in '1.82m -> feet': Unknown unit '>' < 1465350335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`units 1.82m in feet < 1465350336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Definition: 0.014090294 m^3 < 1465350342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1465350362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1465350376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` units 1.82m feet < 1465350377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ * 5.9711286 \ / 0.16747253 < 1465350401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the second line for < 1465350408 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inverse. < 1465350448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1465350490 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-090-098.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465350501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/units < 1465350508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett shachaf shachaf elliott elliott nitia < 1465350515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1465351512 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465351585 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do USB wall plugs automatically shut off once the device has finished charging? < 1465351646 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. do you have an ammeter with you? < 1465351727 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1465351825 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother has a problem the fan for his computer is connected by USB to a wall plug, and sometimes it goes off and won't go on until the USB wall plug is unplugged and then plug in again. < 1465352158 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: WOOLY CHICKEN < 1465352510 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently i found a bug in bash and i'm wondering how serious it is from a security point of view < 1465352530 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash can trap signals and i found a way to bypass a trap on sigalarm < 1465352563 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if someone is running a security check of some sort when it gets a sigalarm, i can bypass that check < 1465352608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1465352627 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know nothing of security and i don't know how realistic that made up scenario is < 1465352668 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depend in what ways it might be bypassed I think, and I also don't know if there is something with the kernel that affects it? < 1465352682 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's just bash being stupid < 1465352786 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :read -t 3 reads input with a 3s timeout, and it does so by calling setitimer and then catching the first sigalarm it gets < 1465352799 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may or may not be the right one < 1465352802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know what security programs if any are written in bash < 1465352812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a dangerous thing to do, anyway < 1465352874 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if you have a trap on sigalarm and you deliver a sigalarm while your script is doing read -t, your trap never runs < 1465352898 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so idk < 1465352940 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465353507 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect that to be a problem. < 1465353525 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are just programming your script wrong if you do stuff like that. < 1465353544 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's the user's fault < 1465353568 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe it is te fault of the documentation, if it does not document that. < 1465353598 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :read -t should just be implemented with select instead of messing with signals < 1465353668 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1465353740 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what should the docs mention? "warning: traps may be randomly dropped for reasons that you can't control" < 1465353824 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it should mention how read is implemented. < 1465353918 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think people complain enough about the lenght of that man page without going into implementation details < 1465354067 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that read does return failure when it times out anyways < 1465354107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/makelist < 1465354107 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point isn't read, it's the trap that never runs < 1465354109 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :file="bin/$1"; shift; cp bin/emptylist "$file"; for n in "$@"; do echo "$n" >> "$file"; done < 1465354197 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/emptylist < 1465354199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit < 1465354285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465354739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. 666 is the 36th triangular number < 1465354746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the sum of the numbers on a roulette wheel < 1465354808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first 144 (122) digits of pi add up to 666 < 1465354885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 < 1465354888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :66 6s < 1465354895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beastly < 1465354918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :66 repeated 33 times < 1465354993 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first 144 (122) digits of pi add up to 666 <- why is this noteworthy? < 1465355014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :33, of course, being the highest degree of freemason < 1465355017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(damn this is fun) < 1465355020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's just weird < 1465355026 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1465355027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: 122 is supposed to be 12^2 < 1465355034 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i figured that < 1465355045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's a perfect square < 1465355049 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1465355054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: And there aren't very many of those (:P) < 1465355067 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were infinite last time i checked < 1465355077 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Yes, that's the joke < 1465355098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But still, it's rather funny. I'm sure I could freak someone out with it. < 1465356262 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:b073:145c:19e4:aa48 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465356318 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people don't like 666 < 1465356466 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure 33 is the highest degree of Freemasonry? I thought there are only three degrees < 1465356566 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:2493:4fb1:b88:4358 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465356592 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, the Scottish Rite has 33 degrees. < 1465357067 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465357095 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know any Freemasonry that would have 90 degrees. < 1465357140 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Someone claimed that the 90th degree of Freemasonry is when they are told that they worship the devil.) < 1465357152 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course, that is complete nonsense.) < 1465357316 0 :pelegreno_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465357325 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465357391 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465357783 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1465359210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? it < 1465359217 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It little profits that an idle king, / By this still hearth, among these barren crags, / Match'd with an aged wife, I mete and dole / Unequal laws unto a savage race, / That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me. / I cannot rest from travel: I will drink / Life to the lees; all times I have enjoy'd / Greatly, have suffer'd greatly, both with < 1465359238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? it | tail < 1465359241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It little profits that an idle king, / By this still hearth, among these barren crags, / Match'd with an aged wife, I mete and dole / Unequal laws unto a savage race, / That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me. / I cannot rest from travel: I will drink / Life to the lees; all times I have enjoy'd / Greatly, have suffer'd greatly, both with < 1465359309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? it | tail -c350 < 1465359311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s, councils, governments, / Myself not least, but honour'd of them all; / And drunk delight of battle with my peers, / Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy, / I am a part of all that I have met; / Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' / Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades / For ever and for ever when I move. \ Taneb invented it < 1465359412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? submarine jousting < 1465359414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :submarine jousting is unexplainable. < 1465359443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/submarine jousting//s/./S/ < 1465359448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/submarine jousting//Submarine jousting is unexplainable. < 1465359574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465360157 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shakespeare < 1465360158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And besicue and a saint and son the may bean the butcious and one them bear and may me for here the mance of my lord, and leave and thou arl of the prince and will not and and hour blood and the be buralont; < 1465360793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.isi.edu/natural-language/people/poem/poem.php < 1465360808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nepali Turkish Timorese / and foreign sourcing overseas . < 1465360825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :McCann cartoons instead delay / and burdens customers today . < 1465361408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Detector member Silverstein / declares an exquisite cuisine . < 1465361576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The royals simply integrate / a Muslim Serbian dictate . < 1465361604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hotels and countless alternates / recouped unless demand dictates . < 1465361623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Divorce asylum entertained / the jurors challenges remained . < 1465361626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are TG. < 1465361639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The eastern roiling financier / professionals revives career . < 1465361678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a famous poem written in that meter? < 1465361690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iambic tetrameter. < 1465361695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can almost place it. < 1465361781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decaying formula today / and iceland slugging anyway . < 1465361841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bizarre campaign concludes pursues / philanthropy the barbecues . < 1465362195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The princess witty magazine / routine describes a submarine . < 1465362217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Oprah prevalent deposed / result repeatedly exposed . < 1465362222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this isn't the right channel. < 1465362260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Xanadu? < 1465362303 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fused. < 1465362321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, maybe. < 1465362329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you play with superglue < 1465362366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think that's the one, the structure is more complicted. < 1465362374 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I make mistake. I should mean: I'm confused. < 1465362409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Jabberwocky? < 1465362432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that fits < 1465362476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think it does < 1465362486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're quite good at naming things with a similar meter that I've forgotten about. < 1465362496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think it's either of those. < 1465362509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know that many poems < 1465362518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing I'm thinking of has rhyming couplets, I'm pretty sure. < 1465362700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether it's in English... < 1465362721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1465362792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when I read a bunch of those passwords in a row it certainly reminds me of something. < 1465363078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for some cheating < 1465363141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the wikipedia page for iambic tetrameter has a hebrew example < 1465363150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. But it's not that. < 1465363217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your guesses are the best I've heard. < 1465363228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe ... < 1465363271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just assume it's Jabberwocky I'm thinking of, couplets or not. < 1465363334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1465363364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you not know many poems, though? I thought you were a poet. < 1465363379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1465363381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious adjectival cackling overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1465363409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, no way to fit it in. < 1465363439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very premature xkcd today. < 1465363549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly girl genius is claiming sunday/tuesday schedule? < 1465363575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I read Girl Genius? < 1465363660 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465363663 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465363711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1465363829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If oerjan, esteemed overlord, / Would read it of his own accord < 1465363971 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1465364024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy does not look overly pleased, or friendly. < 1465364085 0 :variable!?@? NICK :trout < 1465364116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I forgot that the emphasis isn't on the first syllable. < 1465364153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :esteemed, you mean? < 1465364157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1465364167 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? of course it is. < 1465364182 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? When I asked a Norwegian to pronounce it, it sounded more like it was on the second syllable. < 1465364184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely not _more_ on the second, anyway. < 1465364192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then when I asked about that, he said it was on both syllables. < 1465364204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably your brain overcompensating. < 1465364206 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Elronnd < 1465364209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd desperately wants this entry to say something. < 1465364275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our overlord mysterious, / Is rarely very serious. < 1465364282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it "imperious"? < 1465364284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn imperious < 1465364286 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "imperious" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1465364286 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperious < 1465364286 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: having or showing arrogant superiority to and disdain of < 1465364286 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : those one views as unworthy; "some economists are < 1465364286 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : disdainful of their colleagues in other social < 1465364288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7 @more lines] < 1465364303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1465364303 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : disciplines"; "haughty aristocrats"; "his lordly manners < 1465364303 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : were offensive"; "walked with a prideful swagger"; "very < 1465364303 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : sniffy about breaches of etiquette"; "his mother eyed my < 1465364303 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : clothes with a supercilious air"; "a more swaggering mood < 1465364303 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : than usual"- W.L.Shirer [syn: {disdainful}, {haughty}, < 1465364305 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {imperious}, {lordly}, {overbearing}, {prideful}, < 1465364307 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {sniffy}, {supercilious}, {swaggering}] < 1465364339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not. < 1465364419 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Eugene Onegin is the most famous iambic tetrameter poem. < 1465364421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I never read it. < 1465364675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locate our cackling overlord, / And get a thousand pound reward. < 1465364822 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word he wants is "amortized", / His wisdom entry advertised. < 1465365045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn lambek's lemma/Lambek's Lemma, invented by Joachim "Taneb" Lambek, states that initial algebras have inverses. < 1465365049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «lambek's lemma» < 1465365165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :F-algebras are pretty neat. < 1465365209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow the Wikipedia page, though: "In mathematics, specifically in category theory, F-algebras generalize algebraic structure. Rewriting the algebraic laws in terms of morphisms eliminates all references to quantified elements from the axioms, and these algebraic laws may then be glued together in terms of a single functor F, the signature." < 1465365214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't F-algebras not have laws? < 1465365252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fortunate that i have no idea. < 1465365277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this isn't the right channel to ask. < 1465365293 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale and copumpkin might know. < 1465365303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I talked about it with elliott once. < 1465365321 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-algebras for a monad T have laws. < 1465365326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1465365331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those are much more complicated than F-algebras. < 1465365350 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo much, yeah < 1465365411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, somewhat more complicated. < 1465365514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm aeDAGoZ < 1465365516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465365549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/it < 1465365555 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas < 1465365600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/it//s\ $\\ < 1465365603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/it//It little profits that an idle king, / By this still hearth, among these barren crags, / Match'd with an aged wife, I mete and dole / Unequal laws unto a savage race, / That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me. / I cannot rest from travel: I will drink / Life to the lees; all times I have enjoy'd / Greatly, have suffer'd greatly, < 1465365607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1465365947 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465365952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l ' $' wisdom < 1465365954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil \ wisdom/hydrogen \ wisdom/math \ wisdom/utumno \ wisdom/wealhtheow \ wisdom/fat \ wisdom/ghoul \ wisdom/delve \ wisdom/if \ wisdom/speedy gonzales \ wisdom/o \ wisdom/rhenium \ wisdom/semmelweis \ wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1465366015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -c340 wisdom/it < 1465366016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ils, governments, / Myself not least, but honour'd of them all; / And drunk delight of battle with my peers, / Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy, / I am a part of all that I have met; / Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' / Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades / For ever and for ever when I move. \ Taneb invented it. < 1465366055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` before | tail -c340 < 1465366064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s, governments, / Myself not least, but honour'd of them all; / And drunk delight of battle with my peers, / Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy, / I am a part of all that I have met; / Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' / Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades / For ever and for ever when I move. \ Taneb invented it. < 1465366069 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1465366093 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465366160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? speedy gonzales < 1465366162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sp e e d y G o n z a l e s i s t h e f a s t e s t < 1465366168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465366214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i made that. < 1465366241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ *$//' wisdom/speedy\ gonzales < 1465366244 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465366837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hogue wisdom/speedy gonzales < 1465366843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` sed -i \'s/ *$//\' wisdom/speedy\\ gonzales \ le/rn speedy gonzales/Sp e e d y G o n z a l e s i s t h e f a s t < 1465366865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 hogue wisdom/speedy\ gonzales < 1465366878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2: ` sed -i \'s/ *$//\' wisdom/speedy\\ gonzales \ le/rn speedy gonzales/Sp e e d y G o n z a l e s i s t h e f a s < 1465366880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465366882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2: t e s t m o \ < 1465367536 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop spamming please < 1465367645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan started it. < 1465367874 0 :DigitoriiX!4b805a3c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.128.90.60 QUIT : < 1465367938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: placenta-based homology? / i owe you an apology < 1465368151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think that such an awful curse / can be undone by writing verse? < 1465368190 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1465368320 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if verse alone will not suffice / then what would be your asking price? < 1465368550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your task, to introduce, must be / the word placenta in CT < 1465368651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you are for this too dense / you may instead put it in lens. < 1465368731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know for sure it is the case / it won't look very out of place < 1465368958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, birth as a formality / is just initiality < 1465369154 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so placentas could be shown / to be a universal cone < 1465369236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for algebras, as Lambek told / placenta would just be a fold < 1465369273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that's not Lambek's lemma. < 1465369275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1465369537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very tragic. < 1465369544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i shave -> < 1465369747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a universal cone, i think, / is terminal (the missing link!) < 1465369825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore (color me magenta) / it could be called a coplacenta < 1465369936 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465370049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"initial", as we've just unearthed, / tells us that an object birthed < 1465370079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all others, metaphorically, / which must mean, categorically, < 1465370514 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i envy how you can rhyme like crazy \ to do this properly i'm way too lazy < 1465370520 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, looks like you were right re: storm king < 1465370534 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it looks like I missed the rhyming thing < 1465370549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's the meter that you're missing, not the rhyme hth < 1465370581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to finish my verse. < 1465370599 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1465370609 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am way better in thia in geman < 1465370612 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :german, even < 1465370787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that for an object to be final / (without a metaphor vaginal), < 1465370791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the arrow points the other way, / to death, destruction, and decay < 1465370873 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if that's so, then what's the story, / for a pointed category? < 1465371090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a zero object, says reflection, / would be the key to resurrection < 1465371125 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf you're writing English poems? < 1465371131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to this channel? < 1465371144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language would you prefer? < 1465371158 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :klingon < 1465371175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: now i'm wondering if van rijn _really_ betrayed him, or if he's just confused. < 1465371201 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might depend on my euphrosynia theory the other day < 1465371291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more spämmi < 1465371317 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaving is scow < 1465371337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: especially with that razor blade, i decided to toss it. < 1465371353 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does this mean shachaf has a full beard?) < 1465371371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask pikhq hth < 1465371385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: does shachaf have a full beard twh < 1465371394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now food -> < 1465371410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think three people in this channel have seen me. < 1465371423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four including me, I guess. < 1465371815 0 :halvredin!~vague@205.185.230.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465372235 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not to my knowledge. < 1465372256 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, when I saw him he did not, and I do not know if he is able to grow one. < 1465372274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1465372293 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you doubting my beard skills < 1465372324 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I am merely ignorant of them. < 1465372371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465372683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are your pooching plans determined yet? < 1465372998 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nein < 1465373747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paradox of the Ravens is mildly damaging the structural integrity of my mind via small explosive devices, bro < 1465373748 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iashwsydnqpokgwa QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465373812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem very paradoxical. < 1465373817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait until you hear about Curry's paradox. < 1465373821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That paradox is TG. < 1465373884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tg < 1465373910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. < 1465373920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing-Gödel-Curry paradox < 1465374055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yeah, it isn't a paradox per se (afaik), but it's still rather weird < 1465374485 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:2493:4fb1:b88:4358 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465374759 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-30-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465374869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/3MTbXwX.gifv has to be photoshopped < 1465375393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that definitely needs some sound. < 1465375431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i assume they're just showing off their dog training? < 1465376722 0 :halvredin!~vague@205.185.230.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465378151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... are there any possible numbers that are so big that there is literally no way to properly express them? < 1465378164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, even Graham's Number can be expressed in finite space < 1465378248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or in a /reasonable/ amount of space < 1465378263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can conceive of it < 1465378373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graham's number can be expressed in very small space. < 1465378376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my impression from the last discussions i saw on naming big numbers is that the problem is that eventually it becomes unprovable (in the gödel sense) whether your expression actually names a number. < 1465378423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, these expression tend to use more and more esoteric ordinals, that may or may not exist. < 1465378426 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1465378569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ordinals? < 1465378573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, of course, unprovable how big it is. < 1465378613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't the ordinals infinite? At least, the esoteric ones? < 1465378625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a transfinite ordinal defines a recursion scheme. if the ordinal doesn't actually exist, the recursion never bottoms out. < 1465378639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sounds like an extraordinally proof hth < 1465378644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it does, you can use it to define huge finite numbers. < 1465378705 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliezer yudkowsky won a challenge to name the biggest computable integer by using a hypothetical ZFC extension < 1465378739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the biggest he could find, which means it's also most likely to be inconsistent instead) < 1465378813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(computable, in the sense that they had to sketch a computer program that would calculate it) < 1465378881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that was computable, so busy beaver numbers will be far larger than that again < 1465378902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, if they didn't have a sketch of a computer program, it would be more of an imputable integer. < 1465379497 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465380014 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465380662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1465381264 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bobadventureslist < 1465381349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bobadventureslist: not found < 1465381646 0 :earendel2!~earendel@xdsl-85-197-9-66.netcologne.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465381667 0 :earendel2!~earendel@xdsl-85-197-9-66.netcologne.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1465381970 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? underwater jousting < 1465381980 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :underwater jousting? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465382052 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn underwater jousting/Underwater jousting is a sport played on the open sea in single-person kayaks, where people try to hit a beach ball with the paddles until they get sufficiently exhausted. Taneb invented it. < 1465382073 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1465382075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «underwater jousting» < 1465382077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1465382096 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, didn't shachaf just learn something for this yesterday? < 1465382120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me. < 1465382133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're thinking of boily. < 1465382142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very not boily. < 1465382144 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was submarine jousting < 1465382148 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? submarine jousting < 1465382149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Submarine jousting is unexplainable. < 1465382155 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unlearn underwater jousting < 1465382156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unlearn: not found < 1465382161 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/underwater jousting < 1465382164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465382172 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, submarine jousting sounds funnier actually < 1465382175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1465382177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1465382180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's `forget < 1465382260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/the/necessity, the/ < 1465382263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1465382458 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the BBC < 1465382459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BBC? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465382462 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BBC < 1465382465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. < 1465382491 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1465382545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Gambler's Fallacy was accurate to reality, could we use it to build an Infinity Improbability Drive? < 1465382552 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Taneb isn't the owner of muppetlabs/breadbox < 1465382553 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1465382563 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shaventions < 1465382565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/hogue, le//rn, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them. < 1465382568 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boilinventions < 1465382570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilinventions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465382579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jonasventions < 1465382580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jonasventions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465382595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjanventions < 1465382596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjanventions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465382602 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1465382615 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hpventions < 1465382616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpventions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465382621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hpstructions < 1465382622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpstructions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465382625 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woulnd't those be hppaventions? < 1465382636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Necessity invented invention, because it had to. Taneb invented it. < 1465382639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: You'd think so, wouldn't you < 1465382640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'necessity': Necessity invented invention, because it had to. Taneb invented it. < 1465382659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Feel free to fill out hpstructions < 1465382776 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :efghij is such a beautiful language < 1465382777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn necessity/If necessity did not exist, it would be necessary for Taneb to invent it. < 1465382781 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «necessity» < 1465382818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe that wisdom entry would be better as "God". < 1465382829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what would you rather invent, necessity or god hth < 1465382834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Taneb < 1465382835 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Wed Jun 08 10:47:15 < 1465382893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hth/twh/ < 1465384642 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am now inside a capsule hotel < 1465384671 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in japan? < 1465384675 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is to say, i am encapsulayed < 1465384679 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1465385241 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1465385248 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: is it nice in there? < 1465385378 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exqscgiqdhdmswyn QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465385561 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: it has aircon and very fast internet so yes < 1465385667 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is a few minutes walk from akihabara < 1465385691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465385726 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :konboilyha < 1465385746 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am in a capsule hotel < 1465385771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is to say, i am *encapsulated* < 1465385848 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bo\ren\matin! < 1465385870 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar RJAA < 1465385871 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :RJAA 081030Z 16008KT 9999 FEW013 BKN050 21/19 Q1014 NOSIG RMK 1CU013 7SC050 A2995 < 1465385929 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-raeqbvlhplazchyl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465385935 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: work? vacation? study? shady activities? how long are you staying? < 1465385939 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Akaibu < 1465385966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Akaibu: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1465385980 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :six nights < 1465386029 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is going to maid cafes and lounging a shady activity? < 1465386075 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really shady, more like bright pink. < 1465386114 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no no shady activities here < 1465386416 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn bicyclic monoid/The bicyclic monoid is the free monoid generated by two wheels of a bicycle, quotiented by the restriction that the bicycle itself is equal to the identity. < 1465386437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «bicyclic monoid» < 1465386543 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1465386546 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I still awake? < 1465386588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only around eight o clock! < 1465386646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm: I might ask myself the same question. < 1465386739 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime dnm < 1465386740 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for dnm is Wed Jun 08 03:52:18 2016 < 1465386742 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime shachaf < 1465386743 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Wed Jun 8 03:52:22 2016 < 1465386749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1465386753 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1465387261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465387261 0 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1465387304 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1465387433 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-090-098.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465387438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1465387443 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`datei < 1465387452 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that's the local time for HackEgo < 1465387454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-06-08 11:03:38.508514000+00:00 < 1465388004 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have time? < 1465388005 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do tell about actors:)! good ( fnord) < 1465388027 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: uuuh... Sean Connery? < 1465388027 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i just like ' em. how do i load swindle in drscheme? it shows you visually what happens when you evaluate with c-x c-e in an emacs-lisp buffer will that do? < 1465388056 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it won't do. it's emacs, and it's against my religion. < 1465388056 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: define ' arbitrary manipulation.' on to suggest that. < 1465388087 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I do not suggest that. stop manipulating me, you filthy bot. < 1465388087 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: spoke finnish, too.)) yields the cartesian product. < 1465388103 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: speaking finnish yields cartesian products. I'll remember that. < 1465388414 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't anger fungot < 1465388414 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the sound ' pre-scheme' is dirty to your ears? the one you're running on an unix machine. fucking vocational cs degrees. < 1465388490 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't fear the fungot. I have my mapole. < 1465388490 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: precise terminology is good too http://www.shiro.dreamhost.com/ scheme/ hedwig.png to < 1465388575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball does fungot fear boily's mapole? < 1465388575 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: we want a non-deterministic control structure. or they can both simply be special syntax... < 1465388585 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you fear boily's mapole? < 1465388585 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: widgets always are. and i'd qualify that by saying that it equals three, but i < 1465388587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sources say no. < 1465388638 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when does HackEgo have an 8 ball? < 1465388730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465388891 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: THROWING CHICKEN < 1465389567 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's the official z-code expert in this chan? < 1465389629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading the standard to implement a zmachine and i can't even find stuff like the word size < 1465389801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 byte words, by default, given the age of this stuff. there are also some clues about it, e.g. when it discusses memory size (64k) and ranges of numbers (0..65535, sometimes -32768..32767) < 1465389819 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't say that a number must fit in a word < 1465389838 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho it'd be strange if it didn't < 1465389852 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1465390336 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465390345 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came up with another idea for a language < 1465390362 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... anyone? < 1465390424 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot < 1465390429 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shoot izabera < 1465390437 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't shoot *me* < 1465390440 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot the idea out < 1465390443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shoot: not found < 1465390446 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: :( < 1465390479 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, does anyone here know what the movie "the room" is like? < 1465390490 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this language is based on the room < 1465390499 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, before I explain it. < 1465390527 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is esoteric, not just a regular language with movie catchphrases < 1465390564 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't a brainfuck derivative, like other hidden programs < 1465390646 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how it works < 1465390664 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is based on beatnik < 1465390791 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :commands are based on numeric values of commands < 1465390799 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lines < 1465390848 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the numeric values are calculated is that, firstly, anything that is not a the room quote is an error < 1465390859 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except other characters speech < 1465390872 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I meant johnny the room quote < 1465390925 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the value of a line is the amount of Hs, minus exclamation marks at the end < 1465390968 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Johnny: Ohh hi Mahhrhk! evaluates to 5 < 1465390988 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be push the value of the next one, if i remember < 1465391002 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does writing an interpreter constitute copyright infringement? < 1465391013 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair use < 1465391016 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1465391031 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs can be plays in their own right < 1465391035 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1465391052 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when a name is said, any name can be substituted < 1465391055 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1465391065 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi mark could be oh hi anon < 1465391081 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, this means that you could make something like < 1465391098 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mary: hi jonny < 1465391121 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny: Ohhh hi mahry < 1465391144 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mary: I just bought a new game < 1465391168 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny: Whaht ah fuhnny stohry mahry!! < 1465391177 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Johnny shoots mary] < 1465391192 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny: Gohd Fohrgihve meh < 1465391193 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1465391245 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason why exclamation marks subtract is because some people may not be able to resist adding too many hs < 1465391300 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that perhaps there should be a subset of languages called niks, which have numeric commands which are like beatnik < 1465391313 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would reduce the brainfuck derivatives. < 1465391323 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everyone can agree that would be for the best < 1465391346 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i haven't seen the movie and i know that johnny shoots mary at some point < 1465391367 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made that up < 1465391372 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mary isn't a character < 1465391379 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1465391389 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was demonstrating that new creations can be made < 1465391444 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else should probably make the interpreter, because I haven't really learned any language good enough at this point < 1465391453 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I make a page? < 1465391466 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? love < 1465391474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more < 1465391487 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis love < 1465391490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1465391498 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1465391500 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not how it works < 1465391512 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :love (1) - 2D game development framework < 1465391519 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1465391521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1465391531 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1465391532 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1465391532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1465391534 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391540 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Destructible < 1465391542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391547 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? inDestructible < 1465391548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inDestructible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391558 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1465391560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1465391567 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1465391581 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, hi ybdden < 1465391588 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Destructible < 1465391589 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden* < 1465391590 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hambiguitous < 1465391592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're not sure what hambiguitous means, but it's definitely not hth. < 1465391597 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1465391625 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? troule < 1465391626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :troule? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391627 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trouble < 1465391628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trouble? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391631 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I had an idea for an esolang that isn't just something done slightly different < 1465391632 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bicycle < 1465391633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391638 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unicycle < 1465391640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391646 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1465391647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1465391675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? god's number < 1465391677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god's number? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391677 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? befunge < 1465391679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465391681 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1465391687 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's stop spamming chat now < 1465391742 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ybden, have you contributed to the wiki at all? < 1465391746 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't < 1465391750 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not either. < 1465391754 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1465391756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? god's number < 1465391758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :God's number is the maximum number of moves a Rubik's cube can require to solve. It is equal to 20. No, really. Look it up. < 1465391770 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left a comment once < 1465391775 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on list of ideas < 1465391785 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one time i guess < 1465391816 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is a parenthetical) < 1465391874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[this is a brackethetical] < 1465391995 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :{this is a bracetical} < 1465392193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⟬this is a white turtlethetical⟭ < 1465392213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recession Session is awesome < 1465392325 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|this is a pipethetical| < 1465392347 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Resession cession < 1465392714 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/dpTXm8M.png < 1465392908 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: D: < 1465392915 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't write it < 1465392924 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: where did you find that? < 1465392942 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend of mine claimed it was written by a c programmer in his company < 1465392950 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :firstly, that's a very specific version < 1465392964 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondly, they obviously don't know how the preprocessor works < 1465392984 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I pity that programmer < 1465393018 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I suppose it's a faily innocent mistake < 1465393041 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fairly too < 1465393041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Oh... oh god... < 1465393043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that C!? < 1465393046 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes < 1465393057 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465393072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I much prefer the fox-hen-grain puzzle when the grain will eat the fox if left unattended < 1465393086 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D: what < 1465393087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or where the wolf will eat the farmer in the boat < 1465393101 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( wolf = undefined behaviour ) < 1465393158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or what if the farmer is really a hitman hired to kill the hen and must make it look like an accident? < 1465393168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUDDEN DESIRE FOR SLEEP < 1465393169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465393496 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fumble14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47167&oldid=47159 5* 03193.0.236.64 5* (-54) 10Clean up for more wiki style < 1465393694 0 :Destructible!2af16b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.107.100 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465394061 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465395803 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1465397348 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the puzzle doesn't really work if you can't leave two of the passengers alone unattended < 1465397359 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I prefer puzzles to be solvable < 1465397835 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-1-226.erkacmtk04.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465398238 0 :Guest83470!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465400401 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465401516 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465402310 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1465402466 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:456d:e718:bf73:e22c JOIN :#esoteric < 1465403163 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@83-245-224-30-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465403168 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1465404208 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465404234 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465404261 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465404265 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465404706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47168&oldid=44879 5* 035.249.127.17 5* (+9) 10/* Semantics of Jot */ < 1465405453 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/2015/muth/hint.html < 1465409080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Timwi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47169&oldid=45927 5* 03Timwi 5* (+13) 10efghij < 1465409429 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yaejzsxyrbeqnmyi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465409691 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465409713 0 :Guest83470!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1465409780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47170&oldid=47165 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+6) 10 < 1465410523 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-066-191-219.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465410526 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-090-098.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465410593 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-090-098.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465410745 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-178-006-012-248.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465410844 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-066-191-219.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 249 seconds < 1465410948 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-158-181.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465410993 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-178-006-012-248.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465411065 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465411221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rottytooth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47171&oldid=46132 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+7) 10moved ↄ to done < 1465411275 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07A programming language is a formal constructed language designed to communicate instructions to a machine, particularly a computer.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47172&oldid=47097 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+25) 10implemented < 1465411610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47173&oldid=47170 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+400) 10 < 1465411684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47174&oldid=47173 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+10) 10 < 1465412587 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:31:54 https://i.imgur.com/dpTXm8M.png < 1465412589 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is glorious. < 1465413010 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465413380 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465414033 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-raeqbvlhplazchyl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465414931 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:10e5:99c8:1f93:5cf5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465415199 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:10e5:99c8:1f93:5cf5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465415260 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1465415260 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 081818Z 12006KT 090V160 20SM -SHRA FEW040 SCT055 BKN087 OVC100 16/09 A2979 RMK SC2SC2AC2AC2 PCPN VRY LGT SLP088 DENSITY ALT 300FT < 1465416207 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465418813 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the most efficient way to count the number of leading 1s in a byte? for (i=0; (byte = byte << 1) & 0x80; i++); < 1465418962 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err that doesn't work but i mean something like this works for (i=0; byte & 0x80; i++) byte <<= 1; < 1465419012 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:456d:e718:bf73:e22c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465419046 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465419186 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be, for the specific case for a byte. Plausible alternatives would be __builtin_clz on ~byte, or the "obvious" binary-search approach. < 1465419310 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465419343 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, something like i = 0; if ((byte & 0xf0) == 0xf0) i += 4, byte <<= 4; if ((byte & 0xc0) == 0xc0) i+= 2, byte <<= 2; if (byte & 0x80) i++; < 1465419480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1465419546 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lookup table would be faster? < 1465419547 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hachaf. < 1465419651 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Quite possibly. https://graphics.stanford.edu/~seander/bithacks.html is a good place to check as well. And of course "most efficient" usually depends on all kinds of details. < 1465419670 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did check that < 1465419677 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't find that problem exactly < 1465419684 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i wasn't sure < 1465419740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: A bithack is a model of a weak 2-thack? < 1465419824 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465420152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Your nick has three syllables, with emphasis on the first, right? < 1465420242 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what.. < 1465420308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi-tsi-e? < 1465420318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a long ts, I guess. < 1465420320 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh... < 1465420351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it was two syllables, sounding like "fizzy" in English < 1465420402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I assumed that the j in your name was pronounced as in English. < 1465420642 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The operation ((x&y)==y) is a built-in operation in Z-machine. < 1465420643 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's the one most Finnish people use and I think I'm more familiar with, but I accept the "fizzy" kind as a variant as well. < 1465420652 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've no idea how “jonas” is supposed to be pronounced really. I took that name after the main character Jonas in Lois Lowry's novel “The Giver”, but I never saw the author indicating how that's pronounced, and didn't try to find it out too hard. < 1465420687 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I guess I could try to find videos of the film or the stage play based on the novel on youtube now, as that those now exist and were overseen by Lowry. < 1465420694 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should try that. < 1465420717 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I really cared about how it's pronounced, I could also write to Mrs. Lowry, and she'd probably answer, but I never cared much. < 1465420725 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't even obvious to me how Lowry was pronounced. < 1465420727 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you count the bits by the muxcomp operation efficiently? < 1465420749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, how am I supposed to make a rhyme with your nick without a definitive pronunciation? < 1465420794 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, so how is it pronounced? < 1465420833 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, let me check youtube for the film or other stuff < 1465420886 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1465420890 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to look at them < 1465420891 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You can consider what you said as the canonical form, assuming I parsed it correctly. < 1465420905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the film would ruin my image of the book < 1465420914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well, can you think of anything that rhymes with fizzie? < 1465420917 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, Google TTS's Finnish voice gets it wrong, I'd've used that to verify. < 1465420918 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to find interview though < 1465420964 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok, but how do you parse what shachaf says, or how do you pronounce it? can you give a transcription to some pronunciation alphabet or something? < 1465420981 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: while we're there, how do you pronounce shachaf? < 1465420996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google shachaf pronunciation < 1465420997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forvo.com/word/shachaf/ < 1465420997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Shachaf pronunciation: How to pronounce Shachaf in Hebrew < 1465421007 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's from hebrew? < 1465421018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't verify without audio, but it's probably something like that. < 1465421018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1465421054 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm listening to an interview with Lowry now < 1465421065 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far he's said “the boy” and “this young boy” < 1465421071 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not his name < 1465421079 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“child” too < 1465421092 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1465421152 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this interview didn't help. I'll try another < 1465421325 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, in this one she's telling some amusing anecdotes but not talking about The Giver < 1465421450 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm not good at phonetic alphabets. I think it'd be something close to /ˈfitsie̯/, which, in retrospect, might not be quite what shachaf said, since it has the /ie̯/ diphthong instead of a separate /e/ syllable. < 1465421484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wait, so how many syllables? < 1465421499 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's just two then? I haven't really given it much thought. < 1465421513 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1465421528 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really such a conventional Finnish word. < 1465421531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you ought to record it. < 1465421532 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so is it three full syllables, with both the i and the e taking up a separate one? and is it an open or a close e? < 1465421563 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: or is the i a semi-vowel (like in "yes" in English) so it's only two syllables? < 1465421581 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: AIUI, it's exactly the mid-e, neither open nor closed. < 1465421597 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1465421604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two or three syllables? < 1465421614 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465421652 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this interview, she is talking about The Giver, < 1465421653 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1465421656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, this is fizzie, and i pronounce fizzix as fizzix < 1465421657 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :she does say jonas < 1465421660 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/j/J < 1465421735 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and she does say it with a /dZ/ < 1465421744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dZ? < 1465421745 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :interview is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGcdEX8QeF4 < 1465421769 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell. I mean, I think it's the /ie/ diphthong, which I guess would mean it has to be two. At least I can't tell the difference between the ie in, say, Lieksa and fizzie. < 1465421771 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: /dʒ/ in ipa < 1465421778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in "jack"? < 1465421782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1465421814 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she says /"dZV.n@s/ but I'm not sure about the first vowel. it's definitely short < 1465421820 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me listen a few more times, and to different places < 1465422036 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it definitely sounds like Mrs. Lowry pronounces Jonas as /"dZV.n@s/ in that interview < 1465422070 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric : = /ˈdʒʌ.nəs/ < 1465422091 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, yes. The way "fizzie" ends is definitely more "tie" than "aie". < 1465422121 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems definitive enough for the book character, in English. < 1465422123 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait what < 1465422132 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: "tie" and "aie" are two Finnish words. < 1465422136 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1465422141 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't mean the English word "tie" < 1465422144 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1465422185 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, Wiktionary lacks a pronunciation section on Finnish "tie". (It has one on "aie", so if that's the sort of thing shachaf meant, it's not that.) < 1465422221 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465422241 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear me, Goole Translate's Finnish voice gets "aie" approximately as wrong as possible. < 1465422270 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm certain I can't easily find out how Tóth Tamás Boldizsár pronounces “Jonas” in the translation. A letter through the publisher has a small chance to reach him, but I'm not going to try that. < 1465422272 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello fine folks! is there anyone capable of renaming users on the wiki? < 1465422289 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: on which wiki? < 1465422290 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's so wrong I may even need to fix it.) < 1465422292 0 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465422339 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does it pronounce it wrong even in a sentence? < 1465422340 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on esolangs.org < 1465422361 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: ais523 probably can, and let me check the user list for who else has privilages < 1465422373 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you help mender? < 1465422383 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is renaming a standard MediaWiki feature? < 1465422394 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it is, then probably.) < 1465422410 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it needs some extension... let me dig up that link < 1465422411 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't really know < 1465422421 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Preferences#User_profile_2 < 1465422427 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: do you really need a rename, rather than just simply creating a new user? < 1465422448 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could create a new user and change the links in all my esolangs < 1465422459 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which aren't that many) < 1465422461 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: you can even redirect your userpage < 1465422470 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: it's probably simpler than renaming the user < 1465422476 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh neat, how do I do that? < 1465422484 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the redirect) < 1465422498 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- the wiki must also have the Renameuser extension installed --" we might not have that in place. So, yeah, what b_jonas suggests might be reasonable. Keeps the history and all that. < 1465422500 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: go to userpage, edit it to contain a single line saying #REDIRECT [[User:FooBar]] < 1465422502 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465422518 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: on the target page you might want to explain that you're a new name for that old name, so it doesn't confuse people < 1465422538 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great thanks, I'll do that < 1465422548 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: and you might want to do some of the relevant edits with the old user, and some with the new, so it's clear you really control both of them, and it's not someone maliciously trying to hijack a user page < 1465422571 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1465422578 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: can you tell use the two usernames here too by the way? < 1465422578 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. We actually *do* have Renameuser installed and loaded. < 1465422622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Martin Ender 5* 10New user account < 1465422636 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/use/us/ < 1465422638 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1465422654 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Martin Büttner --> Martin Ender < 1465422661 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1465422711 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as you can see I just created the new account. want to do the rename and kill the new account or should I go ahead with the redirect and everything? < 1465422735 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, regardless of the pronunciation of the book character, you can still pronounce my nick differently < 1465422758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I don't have actual proof that Lowry named Jonas from the biblical prophet.) < 1465422793 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: I'm not even sure what in particular Renameuser does. If you're okay with doing it the mostly-manual way, that'd be fine with me. < 1465422838 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, I don't mind < 1465422912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Martin Ender14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47175 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+1110) 10Created page with "I used to go by the name Martin Büttner. I have created the following esolangs: * [[Retina]], designed in 2015, a regex-based language, designed for use in code-Golf|golf..." < 1465422926 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1465422934 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to listen to another interview, hoping it has better audio < 1465422937 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh, and yes: "aie" is incredibly wrong even when used in a sentence. Looks like it falls back to the rule-based g2p system, which doesn't realize it's special, so it creates the phonemes "ai ie" (the ai- and ie-diphthongs) which sounds really stupid concatenated. < 1465422945 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is from a radio, so I assumed it was professionally done < 1465422976 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but aside from the introduction, the actual talk with Mrs. Lowry part is done through a telephone line, so not very high audio quality again < 1465422986 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see < 1465422990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Martin Büttner14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47176&oldid=45124 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (-1047) 10Replaced content with "#REDIRECT User:Martin Ender" < 1465423026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Martin Büttner14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47177&oldid=47176 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+1) 10Redirected page to [[User:Martin Ender]] < 1465423048 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1465423064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome mender < 1465423077 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: you should redirect your user talk page (discussion page) too < 1465423087 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1465423090 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1465423122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mender: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1465423136 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1465423141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1465423143 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 082000Z 28013G22KT 15SM OVC042 14/05 A2956 RMK SC8 SLP011 DENSITY ALT 300FT \ ENVA 082050Z 31014KT 9999 SCT025 SCT038 07/03 Q1024 RMK WIND 670FT 32019KT \ ESSB 082050Z AUTO 28004KT 9999 NCD 11/M02 Q1013 \ KOAK 082053Z 26015KT 10SM FEW035 BKN180 21/11 A2996 RMK AO2 SLP145 T02060111 58005 < 1465423148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Martin Büttner14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47178 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+36) 10Redirected page to [[User talk:Martin Ender]] < 1465423215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Martin Ender14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47179 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+0) 10Created blank page < 1465423274 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465423561 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this other interview, Mrs. Lowry says that the names of the characters just “came to her”, and that sometimes she changes them later when writing the book but she didn't change the ones in The Giver. That probably means she didn't deliberately name Jonas from the biblical prophet. < 1465423586 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, no matter, it's still a good enough connection for me. < 1465423623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biblical prophet? < 1465423635 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: usually called Ionah or something there < 1465423640 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I don't know how, but the thing has selected to use a "aa-ee" unit (from the boundary of a compound word where the first part ends in /a:/ and the second part starts with /e:/) to realize the "ai-ie" it wanted to synthesize. Probably because it couldn't find "ai-ie" anywhere, since it makes no sense. So it just pronounces "aie" as something like /aʔe/. < 1465423658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that one. < 1465423675 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my, IPA? < 1465423679 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Jonah < 1465423682 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an IPA nerd < 1465423683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize people called him Jonas. < 1465423685 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Jonah, not Ionah < 1465423698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome qrf < 1465423706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they do, but I think that's a latinism < 1465423712 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to be a regular in here, years ago < 1465423726 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Joona" in the Finnish translation. < 1465423731 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, he's called Jonas in latin < 1465423733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qrf: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1465423739 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was slow < 1465423756 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me guess, it's because HackEgo was written in a painfully inefficient esoteric language < 1465423769 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's because HackEgo's running on a ridiculous VPS provider. < 1465423776 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ I use OVH < 1465423805 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, he's the prophet who's been swallowed by a mythical sea monster (whale or leviathan) and God sent him to be a prophet in the city of Niniveh < 1465423814 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just to make clear which prophet it is) < 1465423842 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the sandboxing it uses (essentially, boot a new UML kernel for every command) isn't *terribly* efficient, but formely it wasn't really all that painful; lately it's been slower than it used to be. < 1465423883 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That prophet is also featured in the Qur'an, which I'm currently reading < 1465423905 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :A kernel written in the Unified Modelling Language, most impressive < 1465423909 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :qrf: yes < 1465423949 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot it's the one of our bots that's written in a painfully inefficient esoteric language, and it's pretty fast. < 1465423949 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i thought it was labyrinth, but i < 1465423956 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :qrf: but I know very little about the Quran, so when I think of the prophet and how he's related to The Giver, I was definitely always thinking of the biblical version < 1465423957 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it's/is/ < 1465424076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok wait, have we got this yet? is your pronunciation of "fizzie" two syllables or three syllables? < 1465424135 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think I've settled on two. < 1465424148 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1465424241 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: then I'll pretend it's /ˈfits.jɛ/ with /ts/ a single vowel (imagine a tie accent above or below the two or something) < 1465424246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/vowel/consonant/ < 1465424280 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the consonant boundary is definitely right after the /'fi/. < 1465424285 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official pronunciation of my nick is [ˈqɑɾɑf] < 1465424291 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you mean the syllable boundary? < 1465424297 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, yes. < 1465424302 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, take the first syllable from fi:fiikus but shorten the vowel from /i:/ to /i/, then take the single syllable from fi:tie but convert the initial consonant from /t/ to /ts/. < 1465424338 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Translate gets those two words right.) < 1465424359 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, but I can't pronounce /ˈfi.tsjɛ/; maybe the /jɛ/ part is wrong < 1465424398 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I understand, it should be /ie̯/. < 1465424406 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't that the same? < 1465424414 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1465424418 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as far as my mouth goes < 1465424431 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a short /i/ or semi-vowel /i/ < 1465424439 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably just record it. < 1465424457 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I can totally accept that you can pronounce /ˈfi.tsjɛ/ < 1465424469 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I can't pronounce it because I'm not used to that sort of thing < 1465424477 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just pronounce it as /ˈfits.jɛ/ and it's short enough < 1465424486 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/short/close/ < 1465424488 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Well, if you listen to the left side of https://translate.google.com/#fi/en/tsie that's pretty much the tail end. < 1465424518 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I can try to pronounce /ˈfi.tsjɛ/ even if I'm not used to it < 1465424523 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's simple -- actually, https://translate.google.com/#fi/en/fitsie is pretty close. < 1465424531 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But if you write it as "fizzie" it goes all wrong.) < 1465424544 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is the "zz" part a finnish spelling? < 1465424609 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. 'z' appears rarely in some loanwords and generally maps to a /ts/. < 1465424623 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think 'zz' really exists. < 1465424644 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, that would explain why google's text to speech doesn't pronounce it properly < 1465424721 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. It generates the two syllables "f i1" and "t s ii0". < 1465424724 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let me see this one you pasted < 1465424730 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh is GG heading towards another boss fight? < 1465424771 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "fitsie" it generates again two syllables, but this time "f i1" + "t s ie0", which is probably right. < 1465424772 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, it's been a while... I think that automatic train was the last serious one. < 1465424878 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'll probably continue to pronounce jonas with a /j/, but a /dZ/ is fine too of course < 1465424896 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I'm specifically talking about the book character and in English of course, in which case I should try to stick to /dZ/ < 1465424983 0 :mender_!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465425043 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that the biblical prophet is pronounced with a /j/, I think that's a good enough excuse that you can use either < 1465425050 0 :mender!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465425069 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1465425155 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-SAMPA <23 < 1465425214 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :qrf: I prefer IPA-like notation, but I'm lazy to type it < 1465425219 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so either goes < 1465425232 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a two-way transliterator as an input method or something < 1465425288 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote this shitty bot for #linguistics, it converts X-SAMPA to IPA < 1465425292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack Cats14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47180 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+8990) 10Created page with "'''Stack Cats''' (abbreviated as '''SKS''') is a stack-based, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing reversible] programming language developed by user:Martin E..." < 1465425316 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :qrf: nice... hmm, which one is #linguistics, is it the one that always talks about politics, or is that ##linguistics ? < 1465425320 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I confuse these channels < 1465425347 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :#linguistics is the one about TV, gay sex, drugs < 1465425364 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :qrf: nah, that's not very specific, lots of channels are about that < 1465425374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Martin Ender14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47181&oldid=47175 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+115) 10add Stack Cats < 1465425411 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true < 1465425433 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems #linguistics is the one I was thinking about, but I know ##linguistics exists as well < 1465425484 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :##linguistics kicks people for off-topic talk < 1465425512 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1465425528 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should try that one if I have a linguistics question < 1465425559 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily < 1465425562 0 :qrf!scum@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also notoriously inactive < 1465425575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it can be worth a try, but ok < 1465425649 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly I should just try outside of irc < 1465426886 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dofwpzjzxqtirqxb JOIN :#esoteric < 1465426996 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465427312 0 :mender_!d4b2d809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.178.216.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465427398 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465427446 0 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1465428069 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465428460 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:dca6:4191:b97e:3ee2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465428544 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465428873 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465429063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465429069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Minecraft is already at 1.10 < 1465429078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That development cycle was way, way too short < 1465429092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the update didn't add very much new content in comparison to many previous updates < 1465429121 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Mi¢ro$oft < 1465429192 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame notch for building and selling < 1465429272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I blame the boundary conditions of the universe for being in the particular configuration they were < 1465429283 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1465429298 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also made the clearly superior dwarf fortress possible < 1465429356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, my eyes do not accept Dwarf Fortress as valid input < 1465429678 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody ever really knew what to do with minecraft < 1465429725 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you may want to use a tileset < 1465429756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I probably should have thought of that by now. < 1465429761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will go seppuku now < 1465429776 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun < 1465429983 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds