< 1466986200 0 :^v!~v^@2602:ffc5::d0d9:3ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was pinged < 1466986203 0 :^v!~v^@2602:ffc5::d0d9:3ea PRIVMSG #esoteric : In a one-line program, if you need to go both ways you generally need to "waste" some characters to #s. In a more squarish program, you generally need to "waste" some characters to ^v<>. It's really a matter of how well you manage to structure your code to avoid either kind of waste, keeping in mind that conditionals by nature change direction, and it's possible to e.g. use _ to do a ... < 1466986204 0 :^v!~v^@2602:ffc5::d0d9:3ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1466986294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1466986315 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ey < 1466986371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafjallajökull < 1466986483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> how does one catch oneself from saying things that will inadvertently show one's age? <-- the only way is to stay away from this new-fangled information superhighway thing hth < 1466986609 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd basically have to not reference anything that happened in more than the past 5 years as something you've experienced but rather as something you know happened because you've heard/read about it. also not saying your age would help as well < 1466986706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you, like, say you read about the 9/11 event then you're showing yourself as _young_ instead. < 1466986764 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you aren't wouldn't that throw them off? < 1466986812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can of course deceive either way. < 1466986831 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am 91 years olde < 1466986834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when nixon did that. < 1466986869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innoc^Wtransparently < 1466986894 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but honestly I lived through 9/11 and was conscious enough to remember it but it wasn't a thing that was that important here at that time < 1466986912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(theoretically, i _could_ have, i guess, but i don't remember anything from back when i was 4... < 1466986915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1466986960 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 5 then and while I do remember some things about it, I remember it being not very prominent < 1466986968 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we ARE talking about croatia < 1466986994 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some countries cared less about 9/11 is what I'm saying < 1466986996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add nationality to the things you don't want to show < 1466987001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*list of things < 1466987077 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my real question is, of all the things one can hide about themselves, why age? < 1466987111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess \oren\ is just in a sensitive one :P < 1466987121 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1466987126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :high moon < 1466987136 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S HIGH NOON < 1466987142 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1466987147 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN CAPS KEY < 1466987149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here, it's after midnight < 1466987155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in croatia either, i bet < 1466987157 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah 1:25 < 1466987169 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much high moon really < 1466987176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye olde MET < 1466987200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't checked out the moon today, it was cloudy < 1466987246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm full moon was a week ago. so presumably pretty half now. < 1466987249 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hbot is being annoying < 1466987251 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>: < 1466987274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it trying to take over the world < 1466987277 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1466987281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to give i a stupid sidekick < 1466987284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1466987292 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wheatley? < 1466987293 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not running some things right < 1466987302 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its already stupid :P < 1466987320 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you need to give it to a clever protagonist < 1466987321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm google says that's from portal < 1466987327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really play games < 1466987337 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :portal is great ^^ < 1466987346 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly is, and you mean Portal 2 < 1466987376 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the franchise, oerjan meant portal 2 :) < 1466987449 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone help me wrap my head around lambda calculus? < 1466987545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i cannot promise your head will survive the twisting < 1466987610 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fancy myself competent enough :D < 1466987766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo lambda calculus is about taking the concepts of (mathematical) variables and functions and distilling them down to their bare essence. < 1466987802 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work? < 1466987986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait what did i get myself into) < 1466988019 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm tired. Why are people talking about a high moon?) < 1466988090 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand application and that jazz, but how exactly is a function defined? < 1466988127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a function is a lambda abstraction. \ variable . expression < 1466988140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot be bothered to type a real lambda < 1466988155 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this expression can be anything? < 1466988180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :any lambda calculus expression yes. < 1466988200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in pure lambda calculus all you have is variables, applications, and lambda abstractions. < 1466988224 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you define say f x = x^2 in it then? < 1466988239 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin, in pure lambda calculus a function is just a pattern of application, basically < 1466988251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that requires you to have some concept of numbers and exponentiation. < 1466988258 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :its arguments are functions and it applies them in some way or another < 1466988272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can either put those in as extras, or encode them as other lambda expressions. < 1466988274 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who here has played/plays dwarf fortress? < 1466988287 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so e.g. you define the natural numbers as taking functions f and x and applying f to x n times. < 1466988314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, i see Phantom__Hoover takes over. < 1466988325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1466988351 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__, I've played it a little but stopped inexplicably < 1466988401 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come? The graphics or the unintuitivity? < 1466988408 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: moon was smokin' somethin' potent < 1466988416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you mean inevitably < 1466988421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't played df < 1466988436 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1466988446 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was inevitable < 1466988452 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's got a steep learning curve, but once learned is quite Fun™ < 1466988473 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'steep learning curve' is just mostly a joke < 1466988484 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki helps a lot to squash it < 1466988497 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__, neither really. pretty sure soon after I downloaded it my computer had some issues and I had to reinstall whichever OS I was using at the time < 1466988502 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's a game where you need to read a wiki to play < 1466988509 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not really < 1466988518 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its just one page to help newbies get started < 1466988525 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont *have to* < 1466988531 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__, i've played it a lot < 1466988535 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the aesthetics of it and don't find it that unintuitive < 1466988536 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for about a year though < 1466988551 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :バスツアー Aesthetic shit スツ thats モール some Aesthetic バス shit right モールモールthere メキシコシティーright ツアthere ピングモール if i do say so myself ブルi say so バス thats what im ta < 1466988572 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I got excited < 1466988576 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toady added adventuremode building and 64bit is coming up Phantom__Hoover < 1466988599 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bits doesn't strike me as that big of an improvement < 1466988607 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know < 1466988611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a game like DF... < 1466988617 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extra registers might make the main game thread run a bit faster i suppose < 1466988617 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, more memory for bigger fortresses < 1466988630 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone written a utility to compile DF maps to minecraft maps? < 1466988634 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember ever running up against memory issues, you'd hit FPS death first < 1466988635 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think about it, DF is a rather well-optimized and tuned game on 32-bit < 1466988635 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32bit caps it at 2gb < 1466988643 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, >df < 1466988647 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :>well-optimised < 1466988655 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :top lel < 1466988656 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>singlethreaded < 1466988660 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :top lel < 1466988660 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sshhh) < 1466988666 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top jej < 1466988673 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was hoping my complete lack of knowledge would go unnoticed!) < 1466988676 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanna feel like I'm part of the chat < 1466988687 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to < 1466988701 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, i remember when just the temperature calculations alone would take the game from 60FPS to 30 on my machine < 1466988713 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temp calculations are better i hope < 1466988723 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless ur pc is on old hardware < 1466988726 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a bit better now but there were trivial optimisations that dfhack added that removed most of that hit < 1466988726 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TBH, I kind of thought such things as multithreading were already implemented or else it would have already been melting machines) < 1466988729 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i beleive no i hope < 1466988740 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>caring about FPS in an ASCII game < 1466988748 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not lel < 1466988753 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin, FPS in DF means the sim speed < 1466988754 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lel at all < 1466988756 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: it's not exactly a text adventure :) < 1466988757 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm < 1466988766 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FPS means how fast the game is processing everything < 1466988767 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it gets low the game becomes unplayable < 1466988770 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1466988774 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I guess Adventurer Mode might count?) < 1466988779 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1466988785 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adventure mode is also graphical < 1466988798 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and supports a lot of functions from fortress mode < 1466988799 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, DF these days has a rendering thread and the thread that does the game and everything else, i think < 1466988800 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't mean that) < 1466988814 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean sim speed, which is presumably what Etaoin meant by FPS) < 1466988827 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With Adventurer mode the whole thing's held up on user input anyway) < 1466988833 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :making the latter multithreaded would probably be an enormous boost to performance but it'd require a herculean amount of refactoring to even be able to start < 1466988840 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1466988853 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its too late now < 1466988874 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is too big to multithread without looking like someone trying to get to the other side of a pool of peanut butter < 1466988907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting way of saying "a mess" < 1466988921 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made it up on the spot xP < 1466988929 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it works < 1466988931 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways < 1466988949 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should move this DF related discussion to #dwarffortress, it fits a bit better there < 1466988956 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it smooth or chunky peanut butter? < 1466988967 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea :P < 1466988988 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: Think of what would happen if you cut peanut butter into randomly shaped pieces around one cubic centimetre in volume < 1466989015 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then arranged them into the form that a game's code might take if it were a physical being < 1466989030 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and then threw a jar of pepper at it < 1466989041 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oof < 1466989053 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3875:ad90:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1466989056 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1466989059 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, anyone want to try their hand at a newbie succession fort for lols? < 1466989091 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends if you want the fortress to die before it's first year < 1466989092 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be so down for another #esoteric succession fort but i'm not really a newbie any more < 1466989107 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesnt matter < 1466989111 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its for everyone < 1466989115 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill take the first turn < 1466989115 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like succession forts because i don't have to set down the initial floorplan and agonise over the large-scale design < 1466989130 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if I didn't have something that will take up... < 1466989137 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :43.03 everyone! < 1466989141 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the entirety of next week... to deal with... < 1466989150 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :43.04 also works (i think) < 1466989151 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, really. :( ) < 1466989155 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1466989168 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take just a hour or two to finish a turn < 1466989188 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wishes to go after me? :P < 1466989201 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then again, if I can find a way to make qemu work - specifically qemu, not qemu-system - on an Android tablet...) < 1466989217 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(qemu-system would probably be too slow) < 1466989223 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1466989233 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF in the early stages isnt too lagy < 1466989251 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, so my idea to bring an emulated Linux VM with me ISN'T considered insane? < 1466989258 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1466989261 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do it too < 1466989262 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something is wrong with the world < 1466989275 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or terribly right! < 1466989282 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually my crazy ideas are just that < 1466989291 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, cut down the save size < 1466989297 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :2x2 on the embark screen < 1466989300 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1466989303 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im embarking < 1466989309 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between qemu and qemu-system? < 1466989311 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i mean if he wants to run it on android < 1466989316 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then ill get the ball rolling and share it < 1466989317 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure if I'll be part of this < 1466989328 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait if it's on android then surely it's ARM < 1466989328 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill do 2x2 for slower systems < 1466989334 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and df is compiled as an x86 exe < 1466989336 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__, no! < 1466989341 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: and NOW you know why the qemu is involved! < 1466989345 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Virtual machine < 1466989354 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, 3x3 < 1466989358 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, yeah but there's a difference between hardware and software virtualisation < 1466989367 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__, why not just 4x4 with decent population caps? < 1466989372 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be slow but it might work! < 1466989379 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 3x3 :P < 1466989385 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: qemu-system emulates a whole machine < 1466989387 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a good middle size < 1466989409 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Year 85 < 1466989425 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now < 1466989430 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets see if i can find a nice site < 1466989452 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: qemu-i386 more or less runs a program without emulating the full kernel/etc AFAIK. At least, that's what I think it does... < 1466989462 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I'll try it on a program and find out! < 1466989505 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[gamemanj@Iwakura dist]$ qemu-i386 reb_static < 1466989505 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recovery Basic started. < 1466989505 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory available unknown. < 1466989505 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ready. < 1466989521 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ok, good, it does.) < 1466989533 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much memory do you have to use? < 1466989542 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :over 2gb is the best case here < 1466989556 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the target device... < 1466989591 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, target device not active right now, busy charging for tomorrow. < 1466989618 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2GB. < 1466989635 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, it'll do < 1466989637 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :- system stuff & emulator overhead & such and things will be rather bad. < 1466989692 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect location found < 1466989708 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a attachable keyboard (wireless for example?) < 1466989723 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, so in lambda calculus I could write something like \x.x where x is a function that does something specific, but I could then use the symbol x for function composition/application/abstraction and such? basically what the actual symbol symbolizes is irrelevant, lambda calculus just allows me to work with higher order functions in an abstract way? < 1466989762 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I have an OTG keyboard... < 1466989768 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin, yes, but then the trick is that in the lambda calculus those are the only functions < 1466989781 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by that I mean an OTG cable (no separate power though...) < 1466989782 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a keyboard < 1466989796 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're still enough to express universal computation < 1466989801 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it canconnect to your device, it will work < 1466989810 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the bit I can't understand :D < 1466989811 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill play the first year < 1466989816 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to go next? < 1466989827 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how in the world can I do anything useful with such a simple system < 1466989841 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin, look at brainfuck lol < 1466989852 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is relatively complex compared to this imo < 1466989861 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin, well e.g. you can encode true vs. false as \x y.x and \x y.y < 1466989880 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1466989892 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no-one wants to take the next turn? < 1466989896 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1466989901 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel bad for moon < 1466989911 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol no need < 1466989936 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can encode other data types in similar ways, and then from there you can get the 'primitive functions' that you expect to have < 1466989947 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.201.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466989973 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:58c2:98f3:e7ff:280e PRIVMSG #esoteric :More suggestively, you can encode true vs. false as \false true. false and \false true. true < 1466989998 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:58c2:98f3:e7ff:280e PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general, you just pretend that you're taking the data constructors for your algebraic type as arguments to the function < 1466990087 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:58c2:98f3:e7ff:280e PRIVMSG #esoteric :So e.g. if in Haskell, you'd have had data Tree a = Tip | Branch a (Tree a) (Tree a), and some value like Branch 1 (Branch 2 Tip Tip) (Branch 3 Tip Tip), you'd encode that as \tip branch -> branch 1 (branch 2 tip tip) (branch 3 tip tip) < 1466990152 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well < 1466990158 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just put up the save when im done < 1466990191 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:58c2:98f3:e7ff:280e PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: and then supplying function arguments is basically doing a fold over the data structure < 1466990273 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This embark has iron (so far) < 1466990280 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :processing < 1466990330 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegakbxnymjsusbw JOIN :#esoteric < 1466990496 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooo, this embark has gold < 1466990675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note the "as long as they're arbitrary" - you have to have enough expression to tell whatever lies you need, and by having that you also leave a hole open for telling truth < 1466990697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the point of the original Newspeak was precisely _not_ to have enough expression. < 1466990740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it still technically allowed "absurdies" like "Big Brother is ungood." < 1466990882 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.201.145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I only heard the last four lines of what you said, but I think I wrote a blog post about it. < 1466990889 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.201.145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-11235.github.io/posts/2016-06-17-church-encode-adts.html < 1466991136 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466991232 0 :^v!~v^@2602:ffc5::d0d9:3ea QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1466991252 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1466991255 0 :^v!~v^@2602:ffc5::d0d9:3ea JOIN :#esoteric < 1466991408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1466991429 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BHoily < 1466991481 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :calello < 1466991499 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quhintopia < 1466991610 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myoon < 1466991843 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia, hellørjan, mhelloon__! < 1466991861 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REVIEW CHICKEN < 1466991897 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__, gold's ~common < 1466991909 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real fucker is getting both iron ore and coal < 1466991909 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1466991920 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll see < 1466991933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Oh, I thought you were talking about Factorio. < 1466991934 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they can both appear in, generously, the first ten layers only < 1466991968 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have both deep and shallow metal.. < 1466991979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess you're talking about Dwarf Fortress. < 1466991989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/montreal < 1466991996 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are < 1466992024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1466992031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1466992045 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else wrote something similar to wisdom on hbot < 1466992047 0 :^v!~v^@2602:ffc5::d0d9:3ea QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1466992057 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same name, actually < 1466992077 0 :^v!~v^@vps.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1466992131 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame DF is actually slower when there is no dfhack < 1466992267 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466992324 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was weird < 1466992337 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was? < 1466992373 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you people ever feel those feels? < 1466992381 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1466992387 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1466992391 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when dogs die < 1466992393 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kinds of feels that make you feel all... feely < 1466992402 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's weird is boily coming in saying hello and leaving without explanation < 1466992438 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, mouse froze! < 1466992452 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1466992454 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp me < 1466992464 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1466992485 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone kick my ass? < 1466992493 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't have to deal with finals tomorrow < 1466992500 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :try turning into Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar < 1466992503 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1466992506 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1466992512 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1466992529 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87w655s3xKc < 1466992647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: i can kickban you if that helps < 1466992670 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 24 hour kickban would promote studying < 1466992672 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :objectively it might but it won't get me out of the test < 1466992673 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1466992678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lettuce//Lettuce is a vegetable with two dressings, join and meet. < 1466992698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer my lettuce without meat tdnh < 1466992707 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1466992707 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do kick without ban. < 1466992714 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way it won't help anyways < 1466992719 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like my salads with chicken and my burgers with lettuce < 1466992727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like all my food vegetarian < 1466992737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's just a semi-lettuce < 1466992737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i like people not talking about eating meat around me < 1466992752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also prefer eating only vegetarians < 1466992754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't always get what you like < 1466992768 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can always get salads the way i like < 1466992788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not from me < 1466992793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i'm unhappy right now because of you < 1466992794 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like soy < 1466992796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's change the subject < 1466992801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1466992803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brick//Brick goes in brain. The statutory punishment for perpetrators of brainfuck derivatives. < 1466992807 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf you vegetarian? < 1466992813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1466992816 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :high five < 1466992817 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's not changing the subject < 1466992821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1466992822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby//Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that eventually decided to support non-ascii characters. < 1466992836 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i did not know that < 1466992841 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of hilarious < 1466992861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Japan or Ruby that eventually decided to support non-ascii character? < 1466992862 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :oonbotti4 < 1466992876 0 :oonbotti4!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1466992877 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :characters < 1466992887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-ascii characters like ørjan, I suppose. < 1466992889 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1466992891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1466992925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1466992927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious articled cackling zombie underlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1466992970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ørjan//s#.$# without noticing it.# < 1466992975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ørjan//Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it. < 1466992976 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1466992982 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like someone was reading homestuck < 1466993022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not me < 1466993030 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1466993040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? betty crocker < 1466993042 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Betty Crocker is a notorious gambler. < 1466993179 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1466993181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1466993201 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess now I know who was reading homestuck < 1466993211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me. < 1466993225 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sensing tomfoolery < 1466993231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tomfoolery < 1466993232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomfoolery is always factually inaccurate. always. < 1466993245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep shachaf bin/slist < 1466993247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1466993252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist < 1466993253 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. < 1466993265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'll have to side with shachaf there < 1466993265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/slist | rot13 < 1466993266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ Gnaro \ ngevd \ Atriq \ aiq \ Svben \ Ftrb \ GungBgureCrefba \ nybg < 1466993278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :statistically it seems to have been Taneb hth < 1466993285 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the bot was reading it < 1466993294 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obv < 1466993316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlikely. the bot has rather limited internet access. < 1466993333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if that's true, how come it always knows about slist updates? hth < 1466993360 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you tried https://xkcd.com/1646/ yet? < 1466993361 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: mimulus luteus--crossed and self-fertilised flowers, in height, weight, and fertility :) most :) these cases a first trace :) movement could not be easily observed; but it certainly was in/ time :)/ year, which is often called/ sense :) hearing; for with chickens hatched by artificial heat, a good deal, and i found in it. < 1466993363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your logic is peccable < 1466993377 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does slwd stand for? < 1466993380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PECCABLE CHICKEN < 1466993386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can figure out what it does from context, but not why it has that name) < 1466993400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i just put a w in sled hth < 1466993400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sled for wisdom/ < 1466993418 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "sled" is a portmanteau of "slash" and "sed"? < 1466993425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct. < 1466993465 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't wait til someone implements a general AI as a bot here < 1466993485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1466993485 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin* discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1466993501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1466993501 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1466993515 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn I'm interested in the homestuck one < 1466993519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think about brexit < 1466993521 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, we have seen today, would almost certainly lead to some companies, especially in tropical waters, such as esprit, telematics, leonardo da vinci programme, which is regarded as a commodity and on which fnord has not been able to help with transport and setting up centres of excellence in all the national structures so that they can have in each individual member of each national parlia < 1466993622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume eir point was in the cut off part < 1466993628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe sled should be called s/e/d < 1466993642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything should have more slashes. < 1466993667 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe /s/e//d/// < 1466993687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then the spoilers would become nonsensical. < 1466993695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also the root directory would become further polluted. < 1466993713 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when has that ever stopped people from doing things < 1466993754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stops people with refined taste, like oerjan. < 1466993796 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one might argue that oerjan is a scrub < 1466993816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn scrub < 1466993818 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "scrub" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1466993818 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrub < 1466993818 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: (of domestic animals) not selectively bred < 1466993818 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: dense vegetation consisting of stunted trees or bushes < 1466993818 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {scrub}, {chaparral}, {bush}] < 1466993820 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[10 @more lines] < 1466993826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1466993826 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: the act of cleaning a surface by rubbing it with a brush and < 1466993826 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : soap and water [syn: {scrub}, {scrubbing}, {scouring}] < 1466993826 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: clean with hard rubbing; "She scrubbed his back" [syn: < 1466993828 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {scrub}, {scour}] < 1466993830 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: wash thoroughly; "surgeons must scrub prior to an operation" < 1466993832 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5 @more lines] < 1466993841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1466993841 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {scrub}, {scrub up}] < 1466993841 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: postpone indefinitely or annul something that was scheduled; < 1466993841 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Call off the engagement"; "cancel the dinner party"; "we had < 1466993841 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : to scrub our vacation plans"; "scratch that meeting--the < 1466993842 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : chair is ill" [syn: {cancel}, {call off}, {scratch}, {scrub}] < 1466993898 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first I thought I was looking at a very complicated translation bot for a different channel < 1466993908 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I realized it was just lambda being spammy < 1466993919 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ain't lambda's fault < 1466993971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked up "scrub" on the Internet. < 1466993975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't be a jerk. < 1466993999 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was joking :( < 1466994005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1466994023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the whole joke is that you're being rude. < 1466994029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing else to that joke. < 1466994078 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I obviously wouldn't call oerjan a scrub for real though < 1466994082 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not by a long shot < 1466994120 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my apologies in any case < 1466994140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should scrub that word from your lexicon. < 1466994190 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf roots/scrub < 1466994239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, that 3rd definition resonates with me < 1466994297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 6th? < 1466994317 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only 3: one I assume < 1466994408 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1466994411 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, stop being an awkward fogey plz < 1466994426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1466994467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn fogey < 1466994468 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "fogey" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1466994469 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fogey < 1466994469 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: someone whose style is out of fashion [syn: {dodo}, {fogy}, < 1466994469 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {fogey}, {fossil}] < 1466994492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly a fellow precambrian < 1466994507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466994508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least jurassic < 1466994514 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying shachaf's clothing isn't fashionable enough < 1466994523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, my slang < 1466994527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i have never seen shachaf's clothing < 1466994541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i can recall < 1466994551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i knew what the word meant < 1466994559 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't suggesting it's illegitimate because it's not in the dictionary < 1466994576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn gullible < 1466994578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "gullible" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1466994578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gullible < 1466994578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: naive and easily deceived or tricked; "at that early age < 1466994578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : she had been gullible and in love" [syn: {fleeceable}, < 1466994578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {green}, {gullible}] < 1466994580 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: easily tricked because of being too trusting; "gullible < 1466994582 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : tourists taken in by the shell game" < 1466994600 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that the last synonym of fogey is fossil < 1466994621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*magic* < 1466994638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*magic*: No such file or directory < 1466994639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*card* < 1466994641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/card-by-name \ bin/random-card < 1466994647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name fogey < 1466994658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1466994667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name old fogey < 1466994668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name fossil < 1466994693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old Fogey \ GG \ Summon Dinosaur \ 7/7 \ Phasing, cumulative upkeep {1}, echo, fading 3, bands with other Dinosaurs, protection from Homarids, snow-covered plainswalk, flanking, rampage 2 \ UNH-R < 1466994693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fossil Find \ (r/g) \ Sorcery \ Return a card at random from your graveyard to your hand, then reorder your graveyard as you choose. \ SHM-U < 1466994796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name steamflogger boss < 1466994799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steamflogger Boss \ 3R \ Creature -- Goblin Rigger \ 3/3 \ Other Rigger creatures you control get +1/+0 and have haste. \ If a Rigger you control would assemble a Contraption, it assembles two Contraptions instead. \ FUT-R < 1466994809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What was your hypothesis for how assembling contraptions must behave? < 1466994817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was just vague grammatical speculation. < 1466994849 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that it's in the same sort of grammatical category as "attacks", "blocks", "targets", "damages" < 1466994853 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that "assembles" is, I mean < 1466994857 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus that protection prevents it working < 1466994901 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a theory that maybe it works a bit like the early playtests of outlast did; during your combat phase, instead of attacking a player or a planeswalker with a creature, you can assemble a contraption with it < 1466994937 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… if a planeswalker has protection from creatures, that doesn't stop creatures attacking it, right? because attacking isn't listed in the list of things protection stops < 1466994956 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe protection wouldn't save the contraptions from assembly either < 1466994982 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one theory as to what assembly does is that the contraptions are permanently tapped when played, and assembling them is the only way to untap them < 1466995019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems odd to introduce an extra word for that. < 1466995027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it could be some other state. < 1466995060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a Contraption is an entity consisting of more than one object? < 1466995071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that doesn't make that much sense. < 1466995097 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what point does it stop being human error and the machine becomes responsible? < 1466995165 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you'd have to introduce an extra word, if you wrote the rules out (say as reminder text) it would be something like "(Instead of attacking, this creature can untap a Contraption you control)" < 1466995192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that "instead of attacking" is kind-of needed, because otherwise it'd probably be an activated ability with a target < 1466995200 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get one guess at any of the things google autocompletes "how to catch up on" to < 1466995203 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then steamflogger boss's text would look different < 1466995215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it have to do with attacking? < 1466995269 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I needed some way for it to not be an activated ability < 1466995273 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it has to be a special action < 1466995283 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466995284 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I looked for something that would have a reason to be a special action rather than an activated ability < 1466995293 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacing an attack is one way to do that, as that's a cost that an activated ability can't have < 1466995310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't it be an activated ability? < 1466995340 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you phrase this mechanic as an activated ability? < 1466995376 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that in early design, outlast replaced an attack, but it was changed to a sorcery-speed tap ability during development to make the way it worked clearer; that changes the way it works though) < 1466995395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that's what you meant. < 1466995443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there wouldn't be a reason to say "assemble a Contraption" instead of just "assemble" for a lot of things I was thinking of. < 1466995487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about: {T}: Assemble. "assemble" means you flip a coin or roll a die or something, and do different things depending on what you got. < 1466995504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Contraption is a kind of token you might assemble. < 1466995546 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably doesn't work rules-grammatically, but the best design I've seen has "assemble a Contraption" mean "place a Contraption artifact token into play", and the cards that assemble contraptions have static abilities that grant abilities to contraptions < 1466995554 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in much the same way that slivers grant abilities to other slivers < 1466995564 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :riggers grant abilities to contraptions < 1466995570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't it work rules-grammatically? < 1466995582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I put it, with the random chance. < 1466995586 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :steamflogger boss would be templated as "assemble an additional contraption" < 1466995598 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the assembler wouldn't matter for that mechanic < 1466995625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it can assemble a contraption during combat, based on what creature is blocking it or something? < 1466995712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like there are a lot of cases where the assembler could matter. < 1466995789 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you guys ever tried putting ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) into google translate and have it pronounce it? < 1466995810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to put that anywhere. < 1466995821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including my IRC channels. < 1466995829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nukeitfromspace < 1466995864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Contraption is an artifact type. < 1466995868 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize that. < 1466996259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nuke it --src=orbit < 1466996263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: nuke: command not found < 1466996277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nuke it from orbit < 1466996278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuke it from orbit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1466996294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you doing that < 1466996301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be just as good without the ` < 1466996304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just less bot spam < 1466996406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that a planeswalker with protection from creatures can still be attacked, but will not receive any damage as a result of the attack. < 1466996486 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course I do not know what "assemble" is. Contraption is a subtype of artifacts though; that is already defined. < 1466996565 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: correct about pro: creatures < 1466996628 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot think of anything that "assemble" might mean that would have SteamFlogger Boss to make sense anyways. < 1466996664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That moment when somebody tries to explain to you that you're wrong thinking that this number is big, and they give you a googol for comparison < 1466996675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After you said "I eat Graham's Number for breakfast" < 1466996683 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree that it wouldn't receive damage, and hadn't thought of that before you mentioned it < 1466996705 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering if there's any way to give a planeswalker protection from creatures using existing cards < 1466996726 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a strong suspicion that if there is, at least one of mycosynth lattice and enchanted evening will be involved) < 1466996762 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to do it, but I'm going to see if there's a way without that ;) < 1466996807 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1466996838 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a teferi emblem, a gideon, a concerted effort, and a beloved chaplain < 1466996845 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :animate gideon in response to concerted effort trigger < 1466996846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name enchanted evening < 1466996848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchanted Evening \ 3(w/u)(w/u) \ Enchantment \ All permanents are enchantments in addition to their other types. \ SHM-R < 1466996877 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a much easier way: animate gideon, enchant with spirit mantle < 1466996884 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly it falls off at end of turn, so it isn't very interesting, but you can do it) < 1466996900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name spirit mantle < 1466996901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spirit Mantle \ 1W \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and has protection from creatures. \ M12-U, PC2-U < 1466996935 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, that works < 1466996938 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is unless there's a gideon that can stay animated for multiple turns < 1466996943 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1466996950 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name concerted effort < 1466996952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concerted Effort \ 2WW \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of each upkeep, creatures you control gain flying until end of turn if a creature you control has flying. The same is true for fear, first strike, double strike, landwalk, protection, trample, and vigilance. \ RAV-R < 1466996960 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :though mine actually allows this to happen off-turn < 1466997069 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier with un-cards < 1466997076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can just use staying power to keep gideon animated indefinitely < 1466997083 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that said, staying power doesn't actually work rules-wise, most likely) < 1466997083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name staying power < 1466997087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Staying Power \ 2W \ Enchantment \ As long as Staying Power is in play, "until end of turn" and "this turn" effects don't end. \ UNH-R < 1466997090 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and even if it did it'd be completely broken) < 1466997118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a sorcery with an "until end of turn" version of Staying Power? < 1466997130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncards are great < 1466997159 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it'd still last forever, wouldn't it? :-P < 1466997168 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the enchantment version is at least removable < 1466997185 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made up a card that says: Skip all cleanup steps. < 1466997188 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually I misremembered the card, I thought it was an instant that deleted "until end of turn" or "this turn" from cards) < 1466997210 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does that prevent "until end of turn" effects ending? < 1466997231 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankfully, as it's an UNH card, the comprehensive rules don't have to think about the exact implications of that card. < 1466997236 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, does it cause damage to stay marked permanently? I think it would but I'm not sure < 1466997270 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 514.2 ends "until end of turn" effects and removes all marked damage. < 1466997277 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why ending the turn doesn't skip the cleanup step, and why triggers during the cleanup step cause a second cleanup step after they resolve < 1466997277 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is part of the cleanup step. < 1466997292 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering if there's a way to get an infinite loop of cleanup steps < 1466997308 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone has generously offered to give hbot a server < 1466997335 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably a mandatory one (you could get an optional one if manamorphose got madness somehow and there was an ROE emrakul in your library) < 1466997349 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the rules are that, if there are any pending triggers or state based actions during a cleanup step, then the active player gets priority; if any player gets priority during a cleanup step, then there is another cleanup step instead of the next turn. < 1466997358 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Then you'd be able to force a tie. < 1466997360 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What about a card that terminates an "until X" effect early? < 1466997372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's no way to specify effects. < 1466997379 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"target effect"? < 1466997388 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work in the rules, although I'm pretty sure they'd never print it < 1466997395 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't target effects. Only players, objects, and zones can be targeted. < 1466997414 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the only reason you can't target effects is that the rules say you can't < 1466997435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do effects exist in some zone or something? < 1466997452 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are effects? We just don't know. < 1466997457 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, Gatherer text search matches the name of a card if it's using it tor efer to itself < 1466997459 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*refer < 1466997476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with that? < 1466997481 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1466997482 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's at most one extra result. < 1466997525 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than one if you're looking for a single word that exists within multiple card names < 1466997536 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I've been vaguely considering writing my own TCG rules < 1466997544 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'd have cards use first-person pronouns to refer to themselves < 1466997545 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1466997556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's short, clear, and doesn't change based on context < 1466997576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd play aistcg < 1466997592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think the "trading card" aspect of mtg is kind of scow unless your goal is to make money. < 1466997598 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, looks like it's only possible to give madness to cards that don't already have them if they're creatures < 1466997603 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( I searched for Pentagonal Dreams, and found a video claiming to be the Enigma OST. It is not. < 1466997608 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y3s2sBr0qA < 1466997619 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Enigma's OST is available from the source repo < 1466997637 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although pentagonal dreams is an s3m, which I had to convert to ogg to get my media player to understand it < 1466997698 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the solution to that (if you even want to use the TCG model) is to have a cap on singles prices, implemented via a standing offer to sell any card for a given specific price, and just printing more cards to keep up with demand via that mechanism < 1466997698 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way to convert s3m->ogg is to use my "playmod" program, taking the s3m as input and pipe the output to sox and tell it to write a ogg format output. < 1466997710 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a likely price would be around the price of a booster) < 1466997719 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could use the LCG model, which I rather like < 1466997726 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that either that it matches the name of the card to refer to itself, and I also don't like that reminder text is included and matched for searches in Gatherer. < 1466997755 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use a different kind of model to make the card game and I think I have described it on here before. < 1466997771 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you did, I either missed it or can't remember it < 1466997784 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps I should write out the rules of my tcg/lcg/whatever < 1466997788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The solution to what? Making money? < 1466997799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You should. < 1466997803 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the solution to singles prices going too high < 1466997816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are your cards computer-interpretable? < 1466997824 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so the YouTube video is espirit.ogg < 1466997880 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my current thoughts have been that all abilities are keyworded, but reminder text has rules meaning and so the keywords don't need to be placed in the rules unless they're defined without reminder text < 1466997883 0 :kalippo!9714cb5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.20.203.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466997885 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome kalippo < 1466997886 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the reminder text would be machine-readable < 1466997888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kalippo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1466997898 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's tension between that, and making it fit on the card < 1466997911 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH the keywords would be machine-readable but you'd still have to program their effects separately < 1466997922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be happier with keywords being part of a standard library rather than a core language. < 1466997936 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the idea is < 1466997940 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you make up a new card effect < 1466997947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's never seen before you make up a new keyword name to go with it < 1466997956 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way, you don't have to decide in advance whether you want to be able to care about it or not < 1466997980 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this should fix the problem with M:tG tribal, hopefully, where they decided it was a failure as it wasn't retrofitted onto cards that should have had it) < 1466998041 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly fond of the LCG model, personally. < 1466998044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't define keywords in the rules, probably more like in some sort of "evergreen keywords booklet" that would be included in the rules for convenience < 1466998054 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, shipped together < 1466998057 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than officially part of it < 1466998086 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have a different kind. There is no reminder text. Keywords are defined in the rules, and the rules include computer code. There is also computer codes available per cards, both keyword and non-keyword effects. No booster packs; purchase a "set box", containing cards (grouped by rarity), rule book, a list of cards (to check if any are missing), and a DVD with all the computer codes to implement it. < 1466998105 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my computers don't have DVD drives. < 1466998121 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can download the same file from the internet. < 1466998141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a Gopher client either. < 1466998162 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several ff extensions < 1466998186 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you have neither DVD nor internet, then too bad; you will have to retype it, or get someone to copy it to a media your computer does support.) < 1466998203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A gazelle is just a giraffe, plotted logarithmically" < 1466998206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazelle < 1466998207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazelle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1466998212 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, two of my main focuses were to ensure that a) there's no hidden gamestate, you can always determine the gamestate by looking at where the cards are; b) the number of instances at which you can make a decision is fairly limited, and in particular if mechanics like priority are needed they're a visible part of the game rather than an obscure rule < 1466998213 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LCG? < 1466998214 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need the Firefox extension. You can use nc or curl to download the file (and it may be available over multiple protocols) < 1466998222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A Gazelle is just a giraffe, plotted logarithmically < 1466998227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'gazelle': A Gazelle is just a giraffe, plotted logarithmically < 1466998232 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: LCG is basically like a TCG, but cards are distributed as playsets of entire blocks rather than booster packs < 1466998235 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a much better ux with ff < 1466998253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If the game is implemented on a computer, you can create token-style cards to represent ongoing effects and so on much more easily. < 1466998256 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Magic: the Gathering, very few people buy, say, a playset of every card in BFZ < 1466998268 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it but it's incredibly expensive and not normally worth it < 1466998274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a human is just a torus < 1466998276 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an LCG, doing that is much cheaper and the normal way to obtain cards < 1466998281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Think about it; you know I'm right) < 1466998287 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, this kills pay2win? < 1466998289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's a multi-holed torus < 1466998291 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's gross, stop it < 1466998292 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yes < 1466998296 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1466998301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Where are the other holes? < 1466998301 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although M:tG is more pay-to-compete < 1466998311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nose is... wait... hm... < 1466998315 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a ceiling beyond which spending more doesn't increase your odds of winning < 1466998326 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nose, ears, mouth are all connected < 1466998330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I suppose you can't merge nostrils with the mouth < 1466998341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, can you? I'm not sure < 1466998343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1466998354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans are significantly more complicated, even up to homeomorphism. < 1466998370 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For my card game design the computer would be optional. But it does help, because the computer code for the game can define the rules precisely and clearly enough. It can be literate programming, in order to print out the book with computer codes too, to read it and do even without computer. < 1466998381 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: We're pretending that humans are solid, aside from the open areas a camera could get to by going in through any exposed orifices < 1466998386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a computer helps because you often want to play the game remotely < 1466998410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is there a proper topological way to merge the nostrils into the mouth? < 1466998412 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will have to pay extra if you want to use the official servers. If you implement your own server then the game can be played for free on computer. < 1466998420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ears are obviously irrelevant, because they stop partway into the body < 1466998440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-proud < 1466998440 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1466998446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-aloud < 1466998446 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1466998539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why not make money by selling advertisements and users' personal information? < 1466998586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woke up today and realized I should start a megachurch < 1466998597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an atheist who wants a shitton of money and I have flexible morals < 1466998604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Megachurch is the way to go < 1466998606 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is a megachurch different from a church? < 1466998614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's bigger and more profit-oriented < 1466998639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically a way to mass-produce normal churching, AND turn a profit doing it < 1466998662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only your morals were flexible enough for a gigachurch < 1466998683 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is a possibility, although I do not like that. Even in any case, advertisements and/or payment and/or whatever is only for the official servers and not if you set up your own. < 1466998686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's phase 3 < 1466998693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Phase 1 is a kilochurch < 1466998694 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg < 1466998710 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you set up your own, they can be used on LAN as well as internet, and possibly other things too if you modify the program to support them.) < 1466998732 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But you could forbid users from running the game on their own, you can make more money. < 1466998737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/could // < 1466998765 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It should be possible everyone can do, so that it is free (as in speech), and to make the rules understandable. < 1466998801 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, such things as ratings and fancy graphcs and sound effect are only available on the official server (unless someone implement clones of these features). < 1466998818 0 :Etaoin!1f93710a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.113.10 QUIT :Quit: swooooosh~~~ < 1466998841 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, of course, official server also help to do play against random opponent, and stuff like that too.) < 1466998921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why shouldn't fancy graphics be free as in speech? < 1466998923 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, both official and unofficial has their own exclusive features even though both include open-source rules for the game. < 1466998941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: M:tG has at least two unofficial clones that haven't been shut down yet even though they're blatant copyright infringements < 1466998943 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It can, if someone makes an unofficial version of such thing! Otherwise it is not. < 1466998953 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and IIRC WotC(aHS) is trying to shut down at least one) < 1466998961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Aren't there also a bunch of clones that have been shut down? < 1466998974 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention games like Hex which are M:tG with the serial numbers filed off and just enough rules changes to dodge patents < 1466998986 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I can't remember the details, IIRC it's complex < 1466999000 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have been that a website distributing one was shut down but the program itself is still developed by other means, or something like that < 1466999021 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is that binaries are not distributed and you must compile from source, or something like that? < 1466999092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things usable only with unofficial servers for my design would be LAN play, experimental custom cards/sets, custom rule variants, etc. < 1466999156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't you rather make more money by forbidding that? < 1466999188 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things usable only with official servers would be ratings, global leaderboards, fancy sound effects and graphics, automatic updates, play against random opponent, lobby, etc. < 1466999210 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The goal would be to make a card game, not to earn money, though. Earn money is secondary. < 1466999387 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The rules engine would be 100% FOSS so you are free to examine it to learn the rules better, modify it, port it to another computer, or whatever else you want. It may be AGPL3 in order to provide some kind of business protection as well as FOSS, so that any modified games you host to public cannot be made secret.) < 1466999405 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hbot is offically on a dedicated server < 1466999731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1466999770 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One reason to omit the fancy graphics and sound effects for the free version is to reduce disk space and memory usage. There can be a license exception like: The company that design this game is allowed to give anyone permission (possibly with conditions attached) to use this software under LGPL3 instead. If you modify this program, you may choose to either keep or remove this exception. < 1467000117 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not quite enough. It also need to say that this additional permission cannot remove the requirement that anyone who exposes the program that links to it, whether on a server or otherwise, must still release the source code of the rules engine and card data including changes made, under AGPL3 or later version. < 1467000140 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nohs, long lecture < 1467000145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd gazelle//s,G,g,;s,$,., < 1467000148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gazelle//A gazelle is just a giraffe, plotted logarithmically. < 1467000158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? humans < 1467000159 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think you just AGPL3 everything you distribute open-source, no exceptions < 1467000159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467000163 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Card data" here may omit favor texts, pictures, etc; only the features used in the game (including computer codes) must be released. < 1467000168 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use a commercial license for the fancy graphics version < 1467000176 0 :kalippo!9714cb5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.20.203.93 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1467000178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Humans are significantly more complicated, even up to homeomorphism. < 1467000183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'human': Humans are significantly more complicated, even up to homeomorphism. < 1467000288 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that is a possibility. However, this way I suggested would ensure that the rules match (and therefore there are no hidden game rules), and that if someone experiments with custom rules and they become successful, that they can be included in the official server too. < 1467000311 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the company could use different rules in their released binaries anyway < 1467000324 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPL variants don't help there because a company can't infringe their own copyright < 1467000344 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if you want to take in community suggestions about rules, you'd either need copyright assignment or to reimplement them < 1467000415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] I believe you can use the Seifert-van Kampen theorem to prove that human noses and mouths cannot be topologically merged hth < 1467000415 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467000508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] (how to split up a human for the theorem is left as an exercise) < 1467000508 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467000593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gazelle seems unjustified. < 1467000605 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The purpose of the removable license exception would be so that as long as people who make rule variants do not object to it, they can be included in the official veration. Also I would insist to make it that the free and commercial versions of the computer game would use the exact same rules, although the user interface (and other options that do not affect the game rules) may differ; the paper version would also use the exact same rules (this is < 1467000606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we just wholesale lifting punchlines from online comics to put in wisdom now? < 1467000634 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you could make the argument that the quality of wisdom is impossible to significantly decrease < 1467000649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's true. < 1467000652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of great wisdom. < 1467000661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/gazelle < 1467000667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467000675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plagiarism < 1467000717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if a human has a cold, though < 1467000835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Good artists borrow, great artists steal" - 1/0 < 1467001407 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.catonmat.net/ good coders code, great reuse < 1467001429 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's 5:23 am and i'm late for work < 1467001470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is it possible to define a logical not function from f(x,y) = if x then y else 0? <-- post classes hit again! < 1467001478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's just and, anyway) < 1467001588 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467001634 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1467001784 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467001827 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is strictly increasing, so you can't use it to define not (which is strictly decreasing) < 1467001900 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, just regularly increasing < 1467001995 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467002246 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegakbxnymjsusbw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467002626 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467002745 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1467002911 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/unidecode < 1467002918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/unidecode: Python script, ASCII text executable < 1467002926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unidecode < 1467002927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import os, sys \ import unicodedata \ s = u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ if u"DUNNO" in s: \ os.execvp("multicode", ["multicode"] + sys.argv[1:]) \ else: \ print s < 1467002942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which python < 1467002943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/python < 1467002954 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467002969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/multicode < 1467002970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/multicode: Python script, ASCII text executable < 1467002980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/multicode < 1467002981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/python \ \ \ import os, glob, sys, unicodedata, locale, gzip, re, traceback, encodings \ import urllib, webbrowser, textwrap \ \ # bz2 was introduced in 2.3, we want this to work also with earlier versions \ try: \ import bz2 \ except ImportError: \ bz2 = None \ \ # for python3 \ try: \ unicode \ except NameError: \ < 1467002998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/multicode < 1467003001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/multicode < 1467003129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l share/U* < 1467003133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 1367023 Jan 13 01:31 share/UnicodeData.txt < 1467003275 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to lock myself out of hbot's ssh, im an idiot < 1467003400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/9.0.0/ucd/UnicodeData.txt < 1467003408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-06-27 03:56:44 URL:http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/9.0.0/ucd/UnicodeData.txt [1686443/1686443] -> "UnicodeData.txt" [1] < 1467003422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv Unic* share < 1467003427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467003438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🤔 < 1467003460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F914 THINKING FACE \ UTF-8: f0 9f a4 94 UTF-16BE: d83edd14 Decimal: 🤔 \ 🤔 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE \ UTF-8: ef bb bf UTF-16BE: feff Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1467003462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1467003697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len 🤔 < 1467003702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 codepoints \ 3 Java characters \ 7 UTF-8 bytes < 1467003879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strikes < 1467003892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1467004249 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gil is not in a gentle mood < 1467004366 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Java characters" is a weird way of spelling "UTF-16 code units". < 1467004455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1467004471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: gilgamesh wulfenbach hth < 1467004492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dyrttwh < 1467004511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's googleable < 1467004518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467004523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tadh < 1467004539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were talking about Unicode. < 1467004554 0 :augur!~augur@208-90-212-15.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467004559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i already fixeded that hth < 1467004564 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm about to draw a picture as a test. something simple. what should it be? < 1467004580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: a dinosaur on a spaceship < 1467004599 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the smbc thing? < 1467004610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's just one iteration. < 1467004628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes back at least to calvin and hobbes < 1467004645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably longer. i think we've had this discussion before. < 1467004744 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static1.squarespace.com/static/541277b1e4b0061967ff2720/5753fe5440261dd73fe3c939/57540165fd2119480bcbb198/1465123175860/?format=750w < 1467004747 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this < 1467004832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1467005242 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/SIMP < 1467005341 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467005406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This organization has no public members. You must be a member to see who’s a part of this organization." < 1467005412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i bet. < 1467005504 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467005668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467005962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, apparently "thing that turns me on" does not constitute "fetish"- it has to be absolutely necessary. Weird. < 1467006093 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lfrqmgjehxvusaoy JOIN :#esoteric < 1467006295 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1467006297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd 1053 is the most relevant xkcd at 6.3% of detected references < 1467006326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the 10000 one, so I can see why it's relevant) < 1467006341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A distant second is 37 (hyphen) at about 3.2$ < 1467006346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*% < 1467006489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most relevant xkcd references are on "other" subreditts that each constitute <1% of xkcd relevancy references < 1467006509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(63%) < 1467006521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AskReddit forms second place at 14% < 1467008061 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: playing go but each player must put down two stones per turn < 1467008891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467009176 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds broken < 1467009183 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are interesting go variants < 1467009246 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite: once per turn, your opponent might request that you make a move other than that move you did < 1467009309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"per turn"? < 1467009339 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.201.145 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467009351 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn being: thing you made before your opponents put something on the board < 1467009373 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it sound broken? < 1467009383 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are always trying to make the second-best move that way < 1467009423 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: because you can clear a group and secure your position there in the same turn? < 1467009450 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so does your opponent in their turn < 1467009475 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :your argument is "because standard go tactics don't work"? < 1467009503 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, but i'd say you have a huge disadvantage as soon as your opponent is the first in doing so < 1467009549 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if your opponent captures and secures your group, you probably can't do the same, because there may nothing to capture < 1467009601 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might ask a reasonable advanced player i know < 1467009614 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how advanced? < 1467009646 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second best german player once < 1467009657 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow :o < 1467012295 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467012646 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467013016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1467013359 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467013861 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone! what are CPU archs in which general purpose registers has different size than address registers? example: Cray-1: 64-bit GPRs and 24-bit address registers. < 1467013891 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:77:e44f:6b0e:7500:9110 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1467014047 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of the 8-bit CPUs? < 1467014064 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, thanks < 1467014066 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which had 8-bit GPRs, and typically 16 bit address registers) < 1467016425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canada < 1467016438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big. < 1467016527 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to whitelist 192.168.* in noscript? < 1467016801 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:6437:4d9f:ae09:5a91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467016851 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1467017864 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467019652 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, a Hannelore dragon < 1467019661 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai, ais523 < 1467019931 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's a quote from http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1458.html < 1467020433 0 :augur!~augur@208-90-212-15.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467020691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467020784 0 :^v!~v^@vps.pxtst.com QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467020879 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467020945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! The International Union for the Conservation of Nature classifies humans as "Least Concern" on their endangered species red list < 1467020987 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lfrqmgjehxvusaoy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467021186 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot < 1467021193 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rDNS ftw < 1467021499 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: aka "I don't care, they will be probably fine" < 1467021519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It's weird < 1467021538 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they just choose to put a label to "None" case < 1467021544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Shouldn't humans be "Most Concern"? As in, "They're the ones fucking everything up in the first place"? < 1467021642 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in terms of conversation humans require negative amount of converstaion < 1467021699 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1467021737 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1467021989 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467022587 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467022609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the//the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1467022644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ranked pairs voting is resolvable in O(N^4) time. Wow. < 1467022675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than the Keme­ny-Young's O(N!) time < 1467022691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is one resolvable in O(1) time < 1467024048 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467024053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arothmorphise//arothmorphise ... antormo... antrohm... ant... oh bugger. This should go in the `misspellings of antrhrop... atnhro...' entry. < 1467024096 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1467024098 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1467024105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soulquake \ 3UUBB \ Sorcery \ Return all creatures on the battlefield and all creature cards in graveyards to their owners' hands. \ ARB-R < 1467024210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/arothmorphise < 1467024230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 oerjan elliott boily < 1467024483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467024484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frame//A frame is just a complete Heyting algebra. Frame homomorphisms don't preserve implication, if you know what I mean. < 1467024500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: I don't know what you mean. < 1467024509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently wisdom entries don't preserve implication either. < 1467026147 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: go with two stones per turn seems to be a thing < 1467026266 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467026774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a program that lets me pass 3D objects through 2D space < 1467026776 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467026782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving on all axis and rotating < 1467026788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For various solids < 1467026803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, preferably, allows me to do similar things in 4D < 1467026808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(through 3D) < 1467026824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd hack a program for this, but that's above my knowledge < 1467026941 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467027425 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467028267 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467028386 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467028428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twnh//twnh is dubious hambiguitous help that will or will not be help. It is provided by a toe with no hair. < 1467028899 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467029011 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? physiology < 1467029020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :physiology? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467029039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn physiology looks confusingly like psychology when written in English. < 1467029049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'physiology': physiology looks confusingly like psychology when written in English. < 1467029203 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas. are they hungarianly different? < 1467029310 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, because physiology is written with an "f". just like in french. < 1467029357 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym «physiologie» hth < 1467029376 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, English uses ch AND th AND ph for words from greek, French uses ch AND th but not ph, and Hungarian uses only ch (but sometimes writes it as kh). < 1467029453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, I dunno, French has "photographie" < 1467029458 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand how it works < 1467029527 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467029572 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467029588 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we «ph» just about everything that remotely may have looked Greek somewhere in the past, and a few more to make sure we didn't miss any on the way. < 1467029653 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in french we mostly ph anything that we know was a phi, too < 1467029720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm just confused < 1467029747 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :photographie, physique, ... < 1467029780 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chiropractique... < 1467029790 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and téléphone too < 1467029794 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not very consistent as to whether ch should be pronounced sh or k in greek words though < 1467029815 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chiropractique might be pronounced kiro < 1467029827 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though ch is pronounced sh in mostly every word < 1467029850 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: and écho is probably pronounced with a k only, or so I hear < 1467029852 0 :Koen__!?@? NICK :Koen_ < 1467029860 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1467029873 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't that just written as kh instead then? < 1467029877 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, th already works fine < 1467029880 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't even have thought about this one, if feels natural < 1467029895 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't use kh at all < 1467029907 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... but you should < 1467029927 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already have c and q for the k sound; the letter k is barely ever used, and kh is never ever used < 1467029946 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we even dropped the «h» from khaki. < 1467029947 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... so qh? that would work too < 1467029952 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'c' is only pronounced k in front of an a, u or o, though < 1467029972 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and q is always followed by a silent u, except when it's followed by a nonsilent u < 1467029991 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in piqûre (notice the ^ to emphasis on the u not being silent) < 1467030003 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or before a consonant) < 1467030020 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, c is pronounced k before a consonant < 1467030063 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"q is always followed by a silent u" => I don't buy that one, because there are tons of words ending in q, the most common being cinq and coq < 1467030076 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can always force it to be pronounced s by adding a "cédille": ç < 1467030092 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a list for Scrabble players for q-words without qu. < 1467030099 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1467030108 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"piqûre" => I haven't heard of this thing < 1467030115 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means sting < 1467030133 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a bee sting, or a nurse sting < 1467030167 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, I think there was another common word ending in q but I don't recall which one) < 1467030174 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cinq is the obvious one, but there was a second) < 1467030225 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.listesdemots.com/motsavecqsansu.htm < 1467030230 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dict.xmatiere.com/suffixe.php "Les mots français finissant par 'q': cinq, coq, q" < 1467030248 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your "tons of words ending in q" < 1467030260 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1467030278 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every word in boily's list are imported from arabic languages < 1467030294 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, probably cinq and coq are the only common ones than < 1467030312 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's qwerty in the list :/ < 1467030314 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1467030324 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's ironic < 1467030613 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FINAL CHICKEN < 1467031256 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1467031868 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1467032486 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:6437:4d9f:ae09:5a91 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467033109 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:31f0:1b32:bac1:a02e JOIN :#esoteric < 1467035251 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467035669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.photoshoprequest.com/ >:) < 1467035909 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1467035922 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the most astonishing political clusterfuck i've ever seen < 1467037150 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467037165 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467037912 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467038026 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467038959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you use the mercurial vcs? Did it change its official homepage from http://mercurial.selenic.com/ to https://www.mercurial-scm.org/ ? Or is that an attempted takeover after the old homepage is gone? < 1467038979 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467039498 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://packages.debian.org/stretch/mercurial says it's changed < 1467039522 0 :moon___!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467039527 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why can't urls just live forever at least as a redirect, argh) < 1467039577 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467040481 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467040503 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :Moonythehuman < 1467040823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Which political clusterfuck in particular? < 1467040831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moonythehuman: ................. < 1467040832 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], brexit < 1467040846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Ah, yes, the fucks are clustering this fortnight < 1467040868 0 :Moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shouts at hppa villion becauseim in a diffrent chat < 1467040922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moonythehuman: Doesn't change anythign < 1467041073 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467041091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthyh//"hthyh" is a common typo for "tithe". < 1467041104 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thyme < 1467041106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1467041118 0 :Moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :` oregano < 1467041120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1467041126 0 :Moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oregano < 1467041129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oregano? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467041205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shaffron < 1467041206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaffron? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467041265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? saffron < 1467041269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saffron? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467041311 0 :Moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time < 1467041313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467041705 0 :Moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467041707 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467042898 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:31f0:1b32:bac1:a02e QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467043063 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-prfjochanrnqyqsw JOIN :#esoteric < 1467043789 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-prfjochanrnqyqsw QUIT : < 1467044639 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOO < 1467044645 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOLARIS DOESN'T HAVE open_memstream() < 1467044648 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOO < 1467044657 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to allocate strings manually! < 1467044659 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1467044788 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no fmemopen either :'''( < 1467045069 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`i got bored and came up with a quick esolang < 1467045081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: i: not found < 1467045108 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1467045113 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1467045129 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/VdTCVUS9 < 1467045134 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats info on it < 1467045261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it great when you have a computer problem < 1467045264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can never fix it < 1467045266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you give up < 1467045286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a month later you want it again and you google slightly differently and IMMEDIATELY get a response that works on the first try with no hassle? < 1467045302 0 :moon__!?@? NICK :moonythehuman < 1467045317 0 :moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm < 1467045319 0 :moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a moment < 1467045322 0 :moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im logging in < 1467045325 0 :moonythehuman!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont yell at me hppavilion[1] < 1467045345 0 :moonythehuman!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467045353 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moon__ < 1467045589 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467045610 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK moon__ < 1467045615 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS < 1467045620 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1467045629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP CHANGING YOUR GODDAMN NICKNAME < 1467045634 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1467045641 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1467045648 0 :Taneb!?@? NICK :Ngevd < 1467045650 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to join your fun game < 1467045659 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1467045666 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what one? < 1467045674 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where hppavilion[1] tells you to stop changing your nickname < 1467045676 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for reasons < 1467045682 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1467045684 0 :Ngevd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't really understand that < 1467045687 0 :Ngevd!?@? NICK :atriq < 1467045708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: ...I hate you. With a passion. < 1467045719 0 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1467045722 0 :atriq!?@? NICK :nvd < 1467045727 0 :moon__!?@? NICK :Somebody < 1467045752 0 :Somebody!?@? NICK :moonheart08 < 1467045768 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467045780 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moonythehuman < 1467045793 0 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is enough < 1467045795 0 :moonythehuman!?@? NICK :moon__ < 1467045795 0 :nvd!?@? NICK :Taneb < 1467045800 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1467045802 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1467045834 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1467045838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m¦ K;¶Ì¤X…ê -F¶9^áÀ¾m‹)®ˆ»Ð*[¯†óE(”ÏY‹NÓs \ ÁΩ¤Q|®‡I7ÓÑS‡µ›‘“nàÁ²ÊÕñVGL"N ’a¦©¥eYƒHù·E¶äí¤œðœj<ˆS£Ege¥Ûj)C+òf!A»[0ÃTúו姵åؽ¸ö${¯–º×éó¶îêía[á]>õVñ&p±ÅN.<ØLF“ ÆVÎoz¿]•ºYõ§d`bp£½è;hb-~ð]ü qå¡@ûN0‘Œ©c… ÞÚߺpºiZøŽØí]*êpº;^àÜ̓d•´;1c_¥î'`K&e.ólάj «d¨·).ã‡.L<Ço·L&BtzHÖó­ËÊVô¥Øâ̽öl=Ø-Nßö1ÙÐV‚J´;\¥ÍGÿ¶Ûœ)½l N < 1467046524 0 :moon___!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467046572 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467046728 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467046764 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30b2:647:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467046837 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why not add a script to your irc client that displays the username of someone who changed nicks as ? < 1467046862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well, obviously because- um... < 1467046895 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that actual usernames can't have / in them, so there's no chance of confusion < 1467046904 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nicks < 1467047346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But what about when I try to \oren\: them? < 1467048729 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467049489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remeber the new name is after the / < 1467049554 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clear < 1467049596 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrong window) < 1467049956 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe. < 1467050207 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what is the difference between taneb and ngevd? how did you come up with these? < 1467050416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow wound up at http://www.fearof.net/fear-of-holes-phobia-trypophobia/ < 1467050426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And honestly, the cover image is kind of unsettling < 1467050438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not real; just a placebo < 1467050439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1467050442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fucking weird < 1467050506 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that flower is real < 1467050521 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467050522 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its how those 'hole covered body parts' are made, using that flower as a template < 1467050665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: Yeah < 1467050671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: But that picture is still unsettling < 1467050696 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1467050704 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have Trypophobia :P < 1467050791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: Probably not < 1467050810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: Though random statistics I got from the short description on Google Images says 15%, so... < 1467050828 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most people have it just a little, just like most people are at least a bit averse to snakes and spiders and ticks < 1467050905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, that's my guess < 1467051603 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467052483 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467052718 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot have "a little bit" of a phobia < 1467052741 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I'm afraid you can... *runs* ) < 1467052749 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467052775 0 :augur!~augur@208-90-212-15.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467052915 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the picture reminds me of ꙮ < 1467052964 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Seriously, it's not the holes, its the EYES!) < 1467053391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467053568 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467053583 0 :moon__!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467053793 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467054279 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30b2:647:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467054339 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467054410 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're actually printing a S.N.O.T. or BBM in black-bordered land? How's that possible? Did Maro take the son of the rules manager hostage to force him or something? < 1467054613 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously! < 1467055382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467055646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Uhh... I have no idea what you're talking about. < 1467055656 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome wob_jonas < 1467055663 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: M:tG < 1467055673 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why are you relcoming me? < 1467055680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08wob_jonas: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1467055689 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH! the colors! they hurt < 1467055697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm.... oh, you're b_jonas in diguise! < 1467055717 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467055726 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know this counts as a disguise < 1467055743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a clever one < 1467055752 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the text you wrote served the purpose of disguise better than your nick < 1467055765 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1467055775 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also have not clue what that was about...) < 1467055796 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rainbow < 1467055798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rainbows are spectral creatures said to be powered by the Daystar. < 1467055824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I think S.N.O.T is some unhinged card < 1467055847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, S.N.O.T is a famous un-card < 1467055916 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's b_jonas' gatherer personality < 1467055944 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other card is called B.F.M., not BMM actually < 1467056209 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bat the snot thing isn't a real card... it'd be fun to see the oracle card text evolve as people try to stick snots to other player's snots, for example... < 1467056256 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sure it becomes a single creature, but who controls it? if it is tapped, will it still be tapped afterwards?) < 1467056259 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30b2:647:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467056278 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: trying to stick to an opponent's S.N.O.T. is a lesser, problem, can easily be solved be banning that, and that's exactly what they've done in the SNOT they printed. That's not the biggest problem. < 1467056296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are bigger rules difficulties. < 1467056552 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, Taneb I use pretty much everywhere < 1467056558 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd is (more or less) my initials < 1467056957 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eg. what happens if Flickerform is attached to a glued new SNOT card, and you use Flickerform's ability on it. < 1467056975 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both cards return, but what will Flickerform (and possibly other auras) get attached to? < 1467056988 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30b2:647:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467057015 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules team has probably already solved most of this with rules specific to SNOT stuff, and it will be in the rules update, but it's opening a huge can of worms. < 1467057111 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gift of Immortality also works instead of Flickerform) < 1467057611 0 :augur!~augur@208-90-212-15.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467057744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1467057744 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 271853Z 30008KT 10SM CLR 22/11 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP166 T02170106 < 1467058324 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467058368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467058380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What is the meaning of Taneb? < 1467058381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m–rdalsjökull//M–rdalsjökull is a draconic volcano harbouring the secret KATL base. < 1467058577 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30b2:647:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467059179 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Myrdalsjökull ) < 1467059251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467059387 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it means me < 1467059878 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467059936 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467059939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lord//The way of the Lord is not just. < 1467059943 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdumb < 1467059944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wisdumb: not found < 1467059983 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's "not just"? not just what?) < 1467060507 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30b2:647:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467060883 0 :augur!~augur@208-90-212-15.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467061166 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467061190 0 :augur!~augur@208-90-212-15.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467061216 0 :augur!~augur@208-90-212-15.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467061225 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think it's the adjective 'just' not the adverb < 1467061339 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467061684 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467061995 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467062415 0 :moon__!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467062462 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30b2:647:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467062937 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1467063159 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467064295 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried out the Solarized color scheme < 1467064313 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it. I don't like my text looking yellowy < 1467064388 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in dark mode, I don't like the fact there is so little contrast < 1467064405 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hbot is now sandboxed and secured < 1467064917 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date' '; pkill python < 1467064953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: date': not found < 1467064977 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`batch -c date' '; pkill python < 1467064978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: batch: not found < 1467064984 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bash < 1467064986 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im stupid < 1467065000 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bash -c date' '; pkill python < 1467065001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: - : invalid option \ Usage: bash [GNU long option] [option] ... \ bash [GNU long option] [option] script-file ... \ GNU long options: \ --debug \ --debugger \ --dump-po-strings \ --dump-strings \ --help \ --init-file \ --login \ --noediting \ --noprofile \ --norc \ --posix \ --protected \ --rcfile \ --restricted \ --verbose \ < 1467065183 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467066333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467066474 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467066495 0 :moon_!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467066527 0 :moonythedwarf!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467066628 0 :zz!watching@unaffiliated/zz JOIN :#esoteric < 1467066632 0 :zz!watching@unaffiliated/zz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1467066769 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1467066786 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "he made her duck" actually valid to say if you want to express that a male transformed some girl into a bird? i am missing prepositions in that < 1467066824 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it might mean he conceived her pet duck < 1467066851 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, it's the point to be ambigious < 1467066856 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that he shot at her and she had to duck < 1467066868 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found it with 5 different meanings < 1467066872 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, "he made her a duck" is what you want, or "he made her into a duck" < 1467066884 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he made her duck" means "he made her bend down to avoid some projectile" < 1467066887 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure he made her duck is correct < 1467066898 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:58c2:98f3:e7ff:280e PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not into a bird -- without the 'a' in 'a duck' it's just like, duck meat. < 1467066901 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it could also mean he prepared a meal for her < 1467066903 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I would be if I was british < 1467066914 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, yes, that too < 1467066940 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it could also mean he used the duck that belonged to her and prepared a meal < 1467066940 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:58c2:98f3:e7ff:280e PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably referring to the food that was made < 1467066945 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bud spencer died today < 1467066947 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:58c2:98f3:e7ff:280e PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in that case) < 1467066961 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again: the point of it was tp be ambigious < 1467066977 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not asking what the meaning is, i wondered because of the last example < 1467066983 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was transforming < 1467066999 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e'for$x(30,37,31,33,32,36,34,35){print"\033[${x}m foo \033[1m bar \033[0m\n"}' < 1467067004 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foo  bar  \  foo  bar  \  foo  bar  \  foo  bar  \  foo  bar  \  foo  bar  \  foo  bar  \  foo  bar  < 1467067040 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego why did you collapse birght and dark colors into the light color? < 1467067047 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467067056 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for black < 1467067092 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's even inconsistent < 1467067523 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467067897 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.242.249.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467068048 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1467068147 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467068301 0 :moon___!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467068329 0 :moon_!~moon_@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467068370 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467068432 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467068574 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467068705 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1467068705 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 272100Z 21012G18KT 15SM FEW030TCU FEW250 27/20 A2980 RMK TCU2CI1 CI TR SLP091 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1467068794 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1467068795 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 272100Z 21012G18KT 15SM FEW030TCU FEW250 27/20 A2980 RMK TCU2CI1 CI TR SLP091 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1467068798 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1467068816 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467068826 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ola < 1467068858 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellaoin! < 1467068861 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1467068861 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 272100Z 21012G18KT 15SM FEW030TCU FEW250 27/20 A2980 RMK TCU2CI1 CI TR SLP091 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1467068869 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. y u no update! < 1467068877 0 :zz!watching@unaffiliated/zz PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1467068921 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1467068921 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 272200Z 22009G15KT 30SM FEW030TCU FEW180 28/20 A2978 RMK TCU2AC1 AC TR SLP087 DENSITY ALT 1700FT < 1467068925 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, finally! < 1467069262 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :moonythehuman < 1467069282 0 :moonythehuman!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467069428 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1467069428 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 272200Z 27013G22KT 15SM FEW085 32/13 A2982 RMK CU2 SLP097 DENSITY ALT 2700FT < 1467069433 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1467069444 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a weather reprot < 1467069454 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ means toronto < 1467069535 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 degrees, ack < 1467069675 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it had to do with airplanes < 1467069681 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause yyz < 1467069685 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and altitude < 1467069728 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: what's your nearest airport? < 1467069935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... are amendments to the US constitution their own separate body (the important part that lays out the big laws), or are they more like Constitutional Errata? Just changing what the main part of the Constitution already said? < 1467070018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, huh, here's an interesting thing that should have been obvious that I forgot about < 1467070049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The president has to have been born a US citizen (not necessarily born /in/ the country- a US citizen parent will generally do too) < 1467070085 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the line of succession includes positions that do not share this requirement- in fact, the Cabinet or even Speaker of the House can be comprised of non-citizens < 1467070110 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rijeka-airport.hr/info.asp < 1467070111 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one < 1467070112 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RJK < 1467070149 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LDRI < 1467070150 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1467070153 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut. < 1467070191 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LRJK < 1467070191 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1467070201 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one near my location is CYVR < 1467070203 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1467070203 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 272200Z 29007KT 30SM SCT120 BKN210 24/17 A3012 RMK AC4CC1 SLP200 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1467070208 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LDRIYDYX < 1467070223 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it break < 1467070238 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there weather in Croatia? < 1467070239 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICAO codes are only four letters long; I would not expect it to work if you put eight letters < 1467070264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, metar supports two different types of airport coe < 1467070265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*code < 1467070269 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LDZA < 1467070270 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LDZA 272200Z 21003KT 170V260 9999 FEW035 17/15 Q1019 NOSIG < 1467070273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IATA and ICAO < 1467070289 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the airport in the capital some 160 km east < 1467070318 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IATA are three letters, so we can try to see if it is work < 1467070327 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar YVR < 1467070351 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't; you need ICAO codes. (ICAO codes are much better than IATA anyways) < 1467070415 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LDLO < 1467070415 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1467070560 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, looking at a map, croatia just barely allows bosnia to have a coastline < 1467070714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar MRI < 1467070734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-crowd < 1467070734 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1467070738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1467070738 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 19h 32m 3s ago: I believe you can use the Seifert-van Kampen theorem to prove that human noses and mouths cannot be topologically merged hth < 1467070739 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 19h 30m 30s ago: (how to split up a human for the theorem is left as an exercise) < 1467070761 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ I'm not even completely sure why that's the case though ^^ < 1467070781 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.242.249.156 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467070787 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have Neum, that one lil city on the coast < 1467070832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PAMR < 1467070833 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAMR 272153Z 23006KT 10SM FEW110 20/08 A3015 RMK AO2 SLP211 T02000078 < 1467070835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1467070880 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ASDF < 1467070880 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1467070888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@taf PAMR < 1467070888 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: thx faq bf < 1467070903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So lambdabot, devourer of time, has metar but not taf? lame. < 1467070917 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EBIN < 1467070917 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1467070926 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar OREN < 1467070927 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1467070973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: Is that the ICAO for \oren\'s personal airstrip? < 1467070983 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd hope so < 1467070984 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only < 1467071004 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, to be able to fly orenair... < 1467071007 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone uzing firefox on win10= < 1467071015 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1467071018 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Kennedy Space Center have an ICAO code? < 1467071028 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I had the money, I'd create an airline called Orenair. it sounds strangely good. < 1467071030 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps crashing for me 's why I'm saking < 1467071045 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking < 1467071067 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use firefox on windows 7 and it works fine < 1467071071 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try doing that < 1467071075 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use FF on Ubuntu, FF on windows 7, and it works fine. < 1467071082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: Who wants to know? < 1467071093 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steers Etaoin towards a penguin < 1467071093 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest version? < 1467071106 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the very latest. < 1467071123 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it really is cause I overclocked my gpu 😂 < 1467071123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use FireFly on Windows 10, which is running on Ubuntu inside of DOS on top of a CPU in minecraft < 1467071135 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use me? < 1467071144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes; you're my favourite browser < 1467071148 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot < 1467071153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: No. < 1467071165 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ddosing me < 1467071174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at the moment, no < 1467071188 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh but can you? < 1467071203 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering I can't forward my ports, can you ddos me? < 1467071206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the minecraft CPU is in an implementation of JavaScript (translated, of course, from CoffeeScript II: The Wrath of Khan) running in Netscape < 1467071210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467071212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: No, I can't < 1467071223 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drat < 1467071228 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks hppavilion[1]. “aaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!” < 1467071232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: Why would you want me to anyway? < 1467071236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What did I do this time? < 1467071268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, by the way, can we start referring to people who watch too much Fox News as a fandom? < 1467071271 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is horrible! terrible! odious! outrageous! egregious! miasmatic! abhorrent! < 1467071295 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall depart in a huff! I am triggered! exclamation mark! < 1467071304 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: INFINITE CHICKEN < 1467071328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I can't take your exclamation seriously if they end with an exclamation mark but don't start with an inverted question mark hth < 1467071328 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467071363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaloily. also shachaf for obvious reasons. < 1467071385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1467071387 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do we refer to the fox news fandom? < 1467071422 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"crazy old people" < 1467071423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily this is horrible! terrible! odious! outrageous! egregious! miasmatic! abhorrent! <-- running away before i can do my porthello? i agree. < 1467071423 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467071490 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily hey boily I just wanted to @tell you something cause everyone else did. I wanted to feel included cause my girlfriend just left me after 2 years < 1467071490 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467071730 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily terrible and odious? tedious! < 1467071730 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467071740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sharjan < 1467071750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sharjan? < 1467071762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: are you saying she couldn't stand this channel < 1467071764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows I already won the porthello competition < 1467071794 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no it was external factors < 1467071811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good ... er wait ... < 1467071870 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nuked her hometown < 1467071874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we are branching out in order to extinguish hth < 1467071883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: that would do it. < 1467071891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etaoin: Was it the only way to be sure? < 1467071913 0 :Etaoin!1f93862a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.134.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never be too sure < 1467071929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily this message is secret. please don't @messages-loud it in the channel twh < 1467071929 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467071943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good message < 1467071980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhhchaf