< 1464740145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464740365 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464740480 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464740913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464740970 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellørjan. < 1464741052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhoily. < 1464741375 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: . < 1464742062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1464742099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let class Typeable a => T a < 1464742102 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1464742151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype W = W Int deriving T < 1464742152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:312:20: < 1464742152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can't make a derived instance of ‘T W’: < 1464742152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘T’ is not a derivable class < 1464742156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1464742225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e lambdabot still lacks enabled extensions (like GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving) for enterprise exploit searching tdnh < 1464742226 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464742233 0 :AstroMoon!~AstroMoon@14-203-213-61.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1464742342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: argh i need GHC again :( < 1464742353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for what < 1464742362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to check if that's an exploit < 1464742381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC 8? < 1464742386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot newtype derive Typeable, but can you newtype derive a _subclass_ of it? < 1464742413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not just 8 < 1464742428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not going to install an older version, anyway. < 1464742445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you get ghc 8 you'll have to answer all my questions hth < 1464742454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOO < 1464742492 0 :AstroMoon!~AstroMoon@14-203-213-61.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Quit: Got to keep moving!! < 1464742589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Isn't Typeable autoderived these days? < 1464742613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. the point here is whether you can break it. < 1464742628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by indirectly deriving a wrong instance. < 1464742786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh the new haskell platform installer requires manual config editing in windows. < 1464742831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think your idea might work... < 1464743234 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is this a security exploit? < 1464743235 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads minimal version < 1464743280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well it's a type safety breach, and some security depends on type safety < 1464743299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if it takes itself seriously hth < 1464743302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after all the exploits we've found, you'd be foolish to depend _justs_ on that. < 1464743308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1464743341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, it'll probbly be enough to increase spj's pulse a bit. < 1464743350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+a < 1464743375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid lag ruins my typing concentration :( < 1464743423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the lag might be due to downloading the Platform < 1464743497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just download it onto your cloud server hth < 1464743501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has so much bandwidth < 1464743505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cloud is all about bandwidth < 1464743512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464743512 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04c08l09o11u12d < 1464743518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon as i get one < 1464743537 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464743539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf it interrupted. < 1464743541 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: Rainbow does not implement interface Icloud < 1464743609 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1464743623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, maybe it doesn't work. < 1464743628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just let you figure it out. < 1464743737 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464743794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464743799 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464744170 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464744216 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464744265 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: dut < 1464744495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah. stupid download. < 1464744520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, 3 mins left it says. < 1464744625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i expect that even if it works it'll need some fiddling to get ghc to _not_ ues the autoderived instance. < 1464744629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*use < 1464744656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really cannot type when the letters don't show up at the same speed... :( < 1464745000 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kuebcdstxujarofp QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464745210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464746253 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploding sheep are fun. mwah ah ah ah ah. < 1464746320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo, winghci is up < 1464746380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm also finally restoring backup to my laptop, so now i actually have the origin of sp^wpcs on it. < 1464746463 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464746562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa, i forgot that pun < 1464746670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION deletes them from the backup directory on nvg, because they took up like half his quota. < 1464746687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the OOTS book (two versions), that is. < 1464746694 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your quota? < 1464746747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :250 Mb, i think < 1464746765 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464746790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this backup solution might not scale into the next time... < 1464746837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that bits or bytes < 1464746854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytes < 1464746905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can back up 250MB very cheaply on the internet hth < 1464747069 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess. i probably even have something from microsoft included with the laptop. < 1464747086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i might have to register more "properly") < 1464747128 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use Google Drive or Dropbox or something for free for that little space, I'm sure. < 1464747159 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, why would you want to store your data in the US? < 1464747186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the NSA can back it up properly, duh < 1464747216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have so far avoided getting any kind of account with either google or microsoft. < 1464747254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you know of hth < 1464747308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would have made more sense if you were talking about the nsa < 1464747368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure the nsa know all my crimes but consider me too small a fish to fry hth < 1464747387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tarsnap will back up your data securely for 250 picodollars / byte-month hth < 1464747403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have $50 of Tarsnap bounty credit but I've never used it. < 1464747487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay up and editing < 1464747779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! I just flew in here from https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8, and boy is my FREAKTHEFUCKOUT cortex tired! < 1464748245 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464748280 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PREMATURE CHICKEN < 1464748490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you find a bug that lets you unsafeCoerce between a value and its newtype < 1464748509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a little unsatisfactory. < 1464748526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think you can do more. < 1464748540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure. i just had a mysterious failure. < 1464748574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting < 1464748621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow it uses the autoderived Typeable when newtype deriving. or so it seems. < 1464748731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so? < 1464748752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Typeable a => S a < 1464748752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance S Int < 1464748752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype W = W Int deriving S < 1464748752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f :: S a => a -> TypeRep < 1464748752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = typeOf a < 1464748760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (W 1) gives W < 1464748772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :clas Typeable a => T a where { foo :: a -> TypeRep }; instance T Int where { foo = typeOf }; newtype W = W Int deriving T; typeOf (W 5) -- Int < 1464748791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, foo (W 5) < 1464748801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you used a method < 1464748824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't methods the issue with GND? < 1464748888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let me try building on that. < 1464749016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm the problem is that a TypeRep doesn't give you enough to break things < 1464749027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and using a :~: fails due to roles, i think. < 1464749034 0 :augur_!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464749036 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using :~: in the method does, yes. < 1464749037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe it really is safe, due to roles < 1464749046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The method type has to be representational or something. < 1464749056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure about safe. < 1464749070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't seem correct that you can have x :: W such that typeOf x is Int < 1464749120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you don't. < 1464749144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You effectively do inside the method. < 1464749190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo effectively < 1464749253 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4d8b:5962:3cf6:3114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464749260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But roles restrict you from doing much. < 1464749283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so it seems. < 1464749649 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1464749670 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464749746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so oerjan: did you find a bug that lets you unsafeCoerce between a value and its newtype < 1464749798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, do you want a swat or something < 1464749833 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464749934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed with a GADT that even if you wrap the class existentially, you still get the automatic Typeable. < 1464750556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you do anything with other fancy types < 1464750562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Vault or StableName or something < 1464750578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the question is whether you can get something that doesn't force the role < 1464751017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, there's nothing special about Typeable here. < 1464751138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :power outage #scow < 1464751497 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could a microcode execution to work in this way: First all register reads and memory reads and calculations are performed simultaneously, and then the jumping and register writes and memory writes are all performed simultaneously; if a register write affects the operation, jumps will be affected for the current cycle but any other affects occur for the next instruction instead. < 1464751576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed, my error was assuming that superclass dictionaries somehow got wrapped into subclass ones, and went through newtype deriving with them. but any wrapping doesn't happen until afterwards. < 1464751589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what i now think. < 1464751648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464752521 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long ago (in this exact galaxy), I learned something in a job interview. < 1464752545 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They asked me to explain the "public", "protected", and "private" access modifiers in OO programming. < 1464752567 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the course of doing so, I realized I didn't quite know how they work. < 1464752627 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that I'm not sure if, in a non-static method belonging to a class, I can access private members of other instances of the class, besides self. < 1464752630 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out that yeah, you can. < 1464752637 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no idea why I bring this up. < 1464752652 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of a pointless story. Like that one Mitch Hedberg joke. < 1464752734 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what programming language? In some you cannot access private members of other instances of the class < 1464752758 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they were talking about C#. Or... maybe Java? < 1464752769 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go, it's the Hedberg joke about the locksmith. < 1464752786 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mitch_Hedberg - 'If I was a locksmith I'd be fuckin' pimpin' that shit out. "Say, what's goin' on, man? Tell you what. I'll trade you a free key duplication (laughs)." That joke made me laugh before I could finish it. Which is good 'cause there's no ending.' < 1464752849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One time in a job interview they kept trying to get me to say the word "singleton". < 1464752877 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because they wanted to know you were aware of the concept? or did they just think it was a fun word to say? < 1464752888 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kept avoiding it, and saying things like "global variable" because that's what it really amounted to. < 1464752943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why. < 1464752968 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript has no classes or public/protected/private, but you can implement a lot of stuff that acts like it. One thing that can be done is to put the private variables and methods that access them in the constructor; in this way it won't have access to privates of other objects. Another thing can be done is you can make up a WeakMap to assign your own private values to any object. < 1464753005 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually JavaScript does now have a "class" command, although I do not use it.) < 1464753073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you use JavaScript for? < 1464753125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464753130 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey, Node.js, userChrome.js < 1464753152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? usual suspects < 1464753177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 3.99 usual suspects, but they're usually rounded up. < 1464753215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/usual suspect//s3933 < 1464753220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464753231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, squandered opportunity there < 1464753258 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "sled" mean here? < 1464753272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means slashsed < 1464753279 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a phone interview once. They asked me: if I had to make some classes to represent square tables, rectangular tables, and circular tables, how would I do it? < 1464753291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You give it an argument consisting of a file name, and then two slashes, and then a sed script. < 1464753312 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt like they were obviously expecting a specific answer. < 1464753316 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Was this an innovative database company? < 1464753320 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1464753328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of circular tables but it sounds exciting. < 1464753337 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a Table class, then RectangularTable inheriting from Table, SquareTable inheriting from RectangularTable, CircularTable inheriting from Table. < 1464753343 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, of course, is not the answer I gave them. < 1464753474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they ask me such question then I would just ask them more questions. < 1464753533 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How would you conduct a job interview? < 1464753542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, more generally, how would you decide whether to hire someone for a job? < 1464753585 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I suppose it can depend what job. < 1464753662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1464753818 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmm. I'm getting an idea. A terrible idea. < 1464753821 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe an esolang idea. < 1464753858 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interfaces in C# have limitations. For example, there's no way to define this interface: < 1464753914 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interface ICloneable { T Clone(); /* where T is the class implementing this interface */ } < 1464753965 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also impossible for an interface to contain any method implementations. < 1464754010 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interfaces can't contain static members, either. < 1464754022 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, in my opinion, it would make perfect sense for an interface to contain static members. < 1464754052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes you remind me of Java Update. < 1464754087 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's that? < 1464754111 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't so good that it can't be where T is the class implementing this interface. Even Haskell can do that. < 1464754137 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "even Haskell"? That's sort of a core feature of Haskell. < 1464754145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Even Haskell? < 1464754154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes I know that < 1464754164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is an advanced purely-functional programming language. < 1464754191 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinkin', could you just have the one concept, called a "trait" or something, that can have abstract members, non-abstract members, static, non-static... < 1464754212 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then... implementing an interface is very similar to inheriting from a class. < 1464754244 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know where this is going. < 1464754261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :treason? < 1464754261 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there are things called "traits". Traits replace classes and interfaces. < 1464754264 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yep! < 1464754354 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A trait can inherit from any number of other traits. Members of traits can be abstract, virtual, or final. < 1464754449 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike with class inheritance, if a trait B inherits from a trait A, and the trait A has a member called "foo", then the trait B does not automatically have a corresponding member also called "foo". < 1464754454 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words... < 1464754483 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With trait inheritance, members *are* inherited from one trait into its children; but when a member is inherited, it doesn't necessarily keep its name. < 1464754540 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: this sounds a lot like C++... < 1464754546 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: does it? < 1464754550 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know C++. < 1464754564 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ doesn't separate interfaces from classes < 1464754581 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a class can have any number of bases, be entirely abstract, concrete, entirely virtual, entirely not < 1464754595 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1464754596 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :final was added later as a compiler check < 1464754644 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ allows you to hide inheritance behind access control, so that inheritance is, say, private, in which case consumers can't access base members or convert to the base class. It's rarely used though < 1464754662 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it supports your ICloneable interface, too, via the CRTP < 1464754668 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(curiously recursive template pattern) < 1464754679 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or through concepts < 1464754770 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make upcasting private? Interesante. < 1464754793 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple inheritance gets a little weird though < 1464754807 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you have classes B and C inheriting from A, and D inheriting from B and C < 1464754814 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then by default, D actually has two copies of A < 1464754836 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to mark the base class A virtual in each case to make it collapse into one (at the cost of a lot of extra runtime thunks) < 1464755219 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of these days I'll have to work out category theory. < 1464755245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464755406 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1464755893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464755934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After watching that video I posted earlier (https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8 if you forgot), I wrote a program to test communication < 1464755984 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hppavilion[1]. < 1464755985 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a 5-bit character set and a program that would accept input and convert strings of "a"s and "s"s into 0s and 1s then into that character set < 1464755997 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: remind me... what country are you in, if I may ask? < 1464756005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Transnistria < 1464756031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would put your left hand (controlled by the right brain) onto the a and s keys and let it go wild, then it would make a result < 1464756036 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I tried talking to my right brain < 1464756044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[L] Um... hello? < 1464756053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[R] assaassaassaassaassasasassaassaasasasassasassaaassaassaaasassassaasaassa < 1464756060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which converted to: < 1464756061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MZTGVTFLLDGFWJ < 1464756077 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I expected, it didn't work in the slightest. < 1464756085 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Existential crisis averted < 1464756105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I'm in Alaska, which is in the USA < 1464756153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's hardly among the 48 original states. < 1464756177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 49, if you count Puerto Rico < 1464756180 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 40 original states that the US had back when it was founded, in 1946. < 1464756185 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/40/48/ < 1464756214 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :USA stands for United State Automaton, right? < 1464756232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: We're hardly an automaton; at best, we're a decision tree < 1464756244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even a decision tree really; more of a stall-instead-of-making-a-decision tree < 1464756256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? histogram < 1464756258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :histogram? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464756280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no one is interested in my failed experiment? < 1464756297 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of interested. < 1464756298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I suppose experiments can't fail if done correctly; they can just give uninteresting results) < 1464756305 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried to do that sort of thing before. < 1464756315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized how many times my right brain said "ass" < 1464756344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, to be fair, there's a 1/8 chance of it saying that for any 3 "a"s and "s"s < 1464756352 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you ever hear of tulpas? http://www.tulpa.info/what-is-a-tulpa/ < 1464756356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Histograms are diagrams showing histamine levels. Taneb invented them. < 1464756357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the chance probably goes up when you allow overlapping chains < 1464756362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'histogram': Histograms are diagrams showing histamine levels. Taneb invented them. < 1464756363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Nope, clicking < 1464756376 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?USA < 1464756376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?USA: not found < 1464756377 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? USA < 1464756381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See America. < 1464756387 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? America < 1464756388 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry had to be removed due to a DMCA takedown notice. < 1464756396 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1464756402 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so, I can try to find you an internship in Michigan if you're ever interested. < 1464756406 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn USA apparently doesn't stand for United State Automaton < 1464756408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ...oh god < 1464756409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'usa': USA apparently doesn't stand for United State Automaton < 1464756412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1464756418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/usa//See America. < 1464756443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They tested it before changing it... < 1464756459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's literally 8 lines above you < 1464756462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1464756465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not the logreader here < 1464756468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame oerjan < 1464756487 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh god what? < 1464756490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think tilting your eyes by about a half a radian counts as logreading < 1464756495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: tulpas < 1464756511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: This sounds almost as crazy as fictionkin < 1464756527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: And at least pice as crazy as otherkin < 1464756590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: But then again, quantum physics is pretty damn crazy, and brains are a lot bigger than quantum stuff < 1464756618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I have a feeling this /might/ be one of those things that is really crazy- crazier than things that are wrong- but also plausible < 1464756659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If oerjan was here he would fix that wisdom entry. < 1464756663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since he's not retired anymore. < 1464756671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he'd even fix it with sedlast or sled. < 1464756726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/usa/s,$,., < 1464756726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1464756730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1464756737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/usa//s,$,., < 1464756740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/usa//USA apparently doesn't stand for United State Automaton. < 1464756747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't trust sedlast < 1464756769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it works fine if you're not racist hth < 1464756840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It at least seems like an interesting thing to experiment with over the summer < 1464756854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: since when am i not retired < 1464756886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: since you started editing wisdom entries again hth < 1464756902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you are just confused about what i retired from hth < 1464756918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( or perhaps i am ) < 1464756927 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you retire from < 1464756952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, in norway retired people are now officially encouraged to keep working. < 1464756959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes) < 1464757044 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fixing stupid bugs from people who cannot remember how HackEgo works even after the fifth time < 1464757054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1464757058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly. < 1464757060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you ever take that job in the first place < 1464757066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, right? < 1464757131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i retired from actually checking the repository browser page. < 1464757165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those two things are not unconnected. < 1464757195 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh yeah, are you starting summer vacation right around now? < 1464757241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I've been on summer vacation for... maybe 2 weeks? < 1464757241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps aux | grep grep < 1464757243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2-3 < 1464757244 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5000000000 288 0.0 0.2 4180 620 ? S 04:00 0:00 sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' '`' 'ps aux | grep grep' | cat \ 500000000 290 0.0 0.6 19140 1600 ? < 1464757250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464757251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464757252 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dang. < 1464757263 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My summer vacation was yesterday. :D < 1464757289 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: _all_ of it? < 1464757296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew americans had it bad, but... < 1464757325 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an office job. I get 25 vacation days a year. < 1464757325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/oerjan//s-retired --;s(rd(rd emeritus( < 1464757330 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious adjectival cackling overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464757339 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A whole 25? Envy. < 1464757371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You get that at Google after 5 years, right? < 1464757377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in Europe where you get it right away, or something. < 1464757387 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1464757389 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which... I understand that Europe generally has better vacation time than the US. < 1464757418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/antediluvian/precambrian/ < 1464757425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious adjectival cackling overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464757429 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, y'know, I think I've been a regular in this channel for about 11 years now. < 1464757432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464757442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: suddenly you're sedlasting? < 1464757453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: 11 years a regular and still not a member? < 1464757457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/ an/ a/ < 1464757464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious adjectival cackling overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464757473 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long have I been here? < 1464757478 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly don't know. < 1464757499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using Freenode for over 12 years, I think. < 1464757510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though my nick was registered a little under 12. < 1464757531 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464757578 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :...12 years ago, not age 12 < 1464757605 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though those aren't all that far apart. < 1464757609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1464757630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should stay away from that topic. < 1464757631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/pre/Pre/ < 1464757640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious adjectival cackling overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464757721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been here for 10 years now. plus/minus a few days. < 1464757780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm minus, apparently. < 1464757788 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i was on the wiki first. < 1464757864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn chaf/Any word ending in "chac" can notify shachaf. < 1464757867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «chaf» < 1464757868 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464757874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast shachafh < 1464757881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/chaf//Any word ending in "chaf" can notify shachaf. < 1464758127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget chaf < 1464758131 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1464758160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: chaf < 1464758315 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when my first wiki edit was. < 1464758393 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005. < 1464758566 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. About 11 years. < 1464758676 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464760505 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464760635 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464760838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgello < 1464761366 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1464761380 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My expensive toys aren't working :( < 1464761694 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your cheap toys? < 1464762089 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This ring is still holding together < 1464762841 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464763180 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464764051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why people use 4-part versioning schemes when we can use the more modern, more expressive 18446744073709551616-part schemes < 1464764076 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that called open source < 1464764082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even then, we should avoid those for major software and use the G64-part scheme < 1464764735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tetris < 1464764739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tetris? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464764742 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2985 is actually an awesome idea < 1464764810 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464764816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Tetris is where Soviet Russia was invented. Taneb was not present although Triangle and Robert were. < 1464764819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tetri': Tetris is where Soviet Russia was invented. Taneb was not present although Triangle and Robert were. < 1464764851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/tetri{,s} < 1464764854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464764906 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tyxhqcrmxvreouso JOIN :#esoteric < 1464765598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What happened there? <-- a timeout, probably. < 1464765633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I guess if it prints text and then times out some text still gets printed. < 1464765642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464765654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have an odd logreading order < 1464765713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...or at least one of them, at any rate! <-- hi < 1464765727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, i've just not got any further? < 1464765746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you don't count reading your IRC client as logreading. < 1464765752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1464765838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/usual* < 1464765841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/usual suspects < 1464765856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could de-s it. < 1464765863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*usual* < 1464765865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/the usual suspect \ wisdom/usual suspects < 1464765878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/the usual suspect < 1464765879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/the usual suspect: No such file or directory < 1464765890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, i made a mess of it < 1464765898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles adjectivally < 1464765899 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fuck did this tetri learning happen? < 1464765922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it strips off s < 1464765935 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, plural < 1464765953 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better slashlearn < 1464765956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/the\ usual\ suspect < 1464765957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/the usual suspect < 1464765960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/the\ usual\ suspect < 1464765962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000000 0 13 May 31 19:43 wisdom/the usual suspect -> usual suspect < 1464765971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/usual\ suspect{s,} < 1464765973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464765975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the usual suspects < 1464765979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 3.99 usual suspects, but they're usually rounded up. < 1464766008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/usual suspect//s;,; in #esoteric,; < 1464766012 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/usual suspect//There are 3.99 usual suspects in #esoteric, but they're usually rounded up. < 1464766052 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand names < 1464766105 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was pretty pleased with that pun. < 1464766122 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily if only you were here to measure my funpun tdnh < 1464766122 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464766177 0 :augur_!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464766217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: John, Ahmed, Jens, Fiona and Balthasar hth < 1464766223 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:7835:c201:6c3:80be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464766257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is good at rounding < 1464766264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1464766296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i But the Judge said he never had summed up before; / So the Snark undertook it instead, / And summed it so well that it came to far more / Than the Witnesses ever had said! < 1464766395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sled < 1464766395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || exit 1; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464766425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled fnord//hi < 1464766426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464766482 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:7835:c201:6c3:80be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464766486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a sledpreview would be useful. < 1464766505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can test in /msg and then sled in produ^W#esoteric. < 1464766534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/sled/s/exit 1; sed/{ echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1 }/ < 1464766536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/sled//s#\|\| exit 1#|| { echo 'no such file'; exit 1; }# < 1464766536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1464766539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sled//|| { echo 'no such file'; exit 1; }[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || exit 1; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464766549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1464766550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464766564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1464766566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered Dinosaur Comics 'butiwouldratherbereading' < 1464766583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1464766585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/sled//s/exit 1; sed/{ echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1 }/ < 1464766592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sled//[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1 } -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464766592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :revert is so slow < 1464766605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled fnord//hi < 1464766606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/sled: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1464766610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1464766614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which suggests that Dinosaur Comics is generated by an algorithm; the individual pages might even just be text on the server < 1464766629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1464766632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1464766635 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1464766642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1464766646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2968&butiwouldratherbereading=somethingmorehistoricallyaccurate IS THE BEST THING EVER < 1464766657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/sled//s/exit 1; sed/{ echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1 }; sed/ < 1464766661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sled//[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1 }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464766667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled fnord//hi < 1464766667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Am I late to the party? Did everybody already know about this?) < 1464766668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/sled: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1464766674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GODDAMMIT < 1464766674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you know about this? < 1464766687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In other news, I just said "OMG". So... SEPPUKU) < 1464766688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i am not even reading what you're saying. < 1464766696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you read dinosaur comics? < 1464766703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: still not reading. < 1464766710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1464766732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do /you/ read dinosaur comics? < 1464766742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only read the good ones. < 1464766760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Were you aware of butiwouldratherbereading? < 1464766768 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2968&butiwouldratherbereading=somethingmorehistoricallyaccurate is amazing < 1464766776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already linked that. < 1464766790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa, that's quite an oath < 1464766795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1464766797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1464766804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sled < 1464766806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || exit 1; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464766809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes < 1464766824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wait, how do you know which ones are good in advance? < 1464766851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i can't believe you would use a big big D < 1464766884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea why this isn't working. < 1464766968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing ; after the 1 hth < 1464767060 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1464767070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/sled//s/exit 1; sed/{ echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed/ < 1464767076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sled//[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464767094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled fnord//plugh < 1464767095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosebud! < 1464767107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1464767108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it. < 1464767110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sled. < 1464767117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That took a little too long. < 1464767170 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you happen to know why the templating of Confound and Intervene differs? < 1464767173 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Confound < 1464767175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confound \ 1U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets one or more creatures. \ Draw a card. \ PS-C < 1464767177 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Intervene < 1464767178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intervene \ U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets a creature. \ UL-C < 1464767198 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no < 1464767200 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as far as I know, the first abilities function exactly the same, and there's no reason why they should be phrased differently < 1464768066 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464770694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1464771852 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464771944 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kegtmhoslygmvjpb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464772469 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464773508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcdsw.com/3900 < 1464773509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1464773512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The horror < 1464773842 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464774517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464774989 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e4db:b8f8:2c34:f2e7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464775266 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e4db:b8f8:2c34:f2e7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464775761 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464776047 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the current best way to report templating problems (indirectly) to the M:tG rules team then? The wizards forum worked for me once, but that forum is shut down now, so I'm not sure what to do . < 1464776104 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :start new forums, let them get popular, then report them there? < 1464776113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think you can send them mail. < 1464776116 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: aww < 1464776133 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the "indirectly" means it has to be publically visible < 1464776136 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: send who email? I don't think you could ever send email directly to wizards. Even on the forum, you didn't talk directly to wizards. < 1464776145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant physical mail, not email. < 1464776153 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah... that might work < 1464776156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think I read an article where they talked about receiving mail. < 1464776189 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards used to have some forms on their website, but I don't think they worked well. Or at least, the bug reports I sent about the Gatherer interface with that form never got into their public list of bugs about Gatherer. < 1464776205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me try to find a snail mail address. < 1464776225 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how old an article? this may have changed in the last few years. < 1464776235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure if I actually read it. < 1464776419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately, I can try the "customer service" emails or phones they give < 1464776450 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe I should also try to report the Gatherer issues that Gatherer still has < 1464776456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We at Wizards of the Coast recognize that no matter how detailed the rules, situations will arise in which the interaction of specific cards requires a precise answer. If you have questions, you can get the answers from us at Wizards.com/CustomerService. Additional contact information is on the last page of these rules." < 1464776467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're probably aware of some of the Gatherer issues. < 1464776480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like how comments have been broken for 2 years or something, haven't they? < 1464776531 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but they used to have a list of bugs (for the old Gatherer), and also had a submission form for new bugs, but even after some time, the bug I reported through the form didn't get to the list or get fixed. that might hvae been something I did wrong though. mind you, the new gatherer fixed some of the old bugs (and introduced new bugs) so it's partly moot. < 1464776545 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, if you have rules questions that aren't answered by the basic or comprehensive rules or the release notes, feel free to contact customer service." < 1464776548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wizards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2339 < 1464776590 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gatherer used to have a lot of bugs about split and flip cards. I think they fixed those now, but now they have at least one bug about double-faced card.s < 1464776743 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I wonder how a card game could have bugs, but yet, the rules of a card game are a program the players follow. < 1464776765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Magic: The Gathering isn't even decidable. < 1464776788 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could make things difficult. < 1464776846 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I said _Gatherer_ had bugs. it's a software. < 1464776859 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, the card game also has bugs < 1464776880 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. (I have no idea what's what, so I'm just being very general about what I say) < 1464776908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this templating inconsistency with Intervene I was talking about is a bug in the card game, although it's a very minor doc bug, not an important bug. there are bigger bugs that pop up occasionally. < 1464776957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm still annoyed by Hollow Dogs being a Zombie instead of a Skeleton, but that's not definitely a bug) < 1464777146 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464777549 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how many nodes do I need to put in a graph before it annoys people who try to understand it? < 1464777640 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably try the customer service < 1464777854 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, 5 < 1464777886 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Ok, so a graph of the Audio Test it is - that only has 2 nodes. < 1464777952 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also note that zzo38's program would be a better fit if it wasn't somehow able to change it's own jump value... < 1464777961 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...on every instruction... < 1464777982 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, at least, that's what the analyzer's saying < 1464778203 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's the second segment generalization pass that's doing it... it runs the pass twice so that it won't have to recompile segments as much, but somehow zzo38's program is theoretically capable of self-modification. It's probably not, but it's convinced the analyzer. < 1464778227 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464778412 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1464778429 0 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464778438 0 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.200 QUIT :Changing host < 1464778438 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464778513 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464778656 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464779016 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464779028 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464779051 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464779167 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464780472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464780493 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464780525 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can recognize the structure of my font renderer in a directed graph of control flow... am I crazy? < 1464780759 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I see no causal relationship between the two. < 1464780805 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said you might be crazy for other reasons < 1464780815 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION absent-mindedly mapoles oerjan before he realizes that he's not even there. < 1464780852 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I didn't just reply with a simple "no". < 1464780889 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464780926 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I'll be more blunt: Be careful or the bytes will push you over the edge ;-) < 1464780946 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hurray for weak puns) < 1464780961 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: stare into the heart of the bytes https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/project-i.svg < 1464780976 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(WARNING: Big file) < 1464781017 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you'll have to forgive me, I find that graph confusing :P < 1464781022 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also confused < 1464781047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I know what code it's from, but I don't have a symbol table < 1464781074 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a red edge < 1464781085 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :red means the virtual machine was interrupted < 1464781097 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is graphviz really still the most usable graph renderer around? < 1464781110 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it was a bit slow, but then again the input .dot was REALLY BIG < 1464781114 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(64k or so) < 1464781122 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also .dot is simple < 1464781142 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminder: At some point this had to be generated < 1464781156 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what are the labels on the edges? < 1464781175 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of instructions? < 1464781177 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464781205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically this graph doesn't show every instruction, it instead condenses it into "segments" < 1464781216 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is more or less an offshoot of a test to see how JITable BytePusher could be < 1464781244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's a 520 instructions edge... neat < 1464781249 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each square or circle represents a segment. Not shown are the "alternate" versions of segments which are generated to handle parallel universes < 1464781260 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1464781260 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 4h 12m 17s ago: if only you were here to measure my funpun tdnh < 1464781275 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If the compilation of the segment made assumptions which turned out to be wrong, a parallel version is made to handle the new condition) < 1464781285 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shachaf hellochaf. you punned? < 1464781286 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464781293 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, the mapole is for oerjan said 10h 42m 18s ago: lambdabot still lacks enabled extensions (like GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving) for enterprise exploit searching tdnh < 1464781296 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All versions of all segments are cached, but they are not generated until needed) < 1464781326 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think GND is still not considered to be SafeHaskell anyway. < 1464781383 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there's a rectangle... < 1464781396 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rectangle means that there has been at least one initialization at that point < 1464781403 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, a few of them) < 1464781417 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, the 2/3/4 address was set there on at least one frame < 1464781421 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually you will find that only red lines lead to these, but that may not always be the case < 1464781438 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so self-modifying code? < 1464781452 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just changing the per-frame address < 1464781459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The self-modification is more or less obscured by this graph. < 1464781464 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1464781479 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind, the reason this graph is more than just 2 nodes is because it does self-modify jump addresses and such < 1464781482 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To actually perform calculations < 1464781493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like the Audio Test are 2 nodes < 1464781493 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what per-frame address means, and I don't want to know right now :P < 1464781513 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's the same thing as the red lines, really < 1464781530 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said - VM interrupt < 1464781554 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't find any red lines going to a rectangle, < 1464781554 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This train is experiencing difficulties, which are being dealt with." First time I've heard that one. < 1464781569 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably the initialization node - the first code the VM executes. < 1464781657 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. Initialization is at 47e. < 1464781675 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is this train in the UK? or was that translated? it sounds strangely nonidiomatic < 1464781692 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From that, I can infer that fc2ef7 is the Internal Keyboard Test part of the system. < 1464781762 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: South West Trains, so UK. < 1464781779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/suzytimms/status/615391949701423104 < 1464781797 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very vague :-( < 1464781804 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: For future reference, if an address ends in f4, it usually means "false", if it ends in f7, it usually means "true". < 1464781820 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned a ton about health and safety from reading train accident reports < 1464781820 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also learned quite a bit about how trains fail in the process < 1464781842 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they fail pretty safe; there are reports where things went catastrophically wrong and still nobody was hurt) < 1464781844 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did continue: "Please listen for further announcements from [unintelligible]." < 1464781870 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464781873 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you actually in this train? < 1464781885 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice any difficulties, and there were no further announcements, so possibly it was played back by mistake. < 1464781915 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on that train a few minutes ago, now I'm in a different one already. < 1464781916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: see #trains hth < 1464781935 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting about #trains. < 1464781938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: possibly hth < 1464781939 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was this report that came out recently, and actually lead to the train company responsible being /banned/ from the railways, but nobody was hurt: https://www.gov.uk/raib-reports/dangerous-occurrence-at-wootton-bassett-junction-wiltshire < 1464781980 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suspect that the reason for the ban was related to the whole thing about intentionally disabling safety systems that would have prevented the accident) < 1464782186 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RAIB has identified one key learning point. This is that allowing safety critical systems such as AWS and TPWS to function without improper interference is vital to the safe operation of the railway." < 1464782193 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing to learn. < 1464782259 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464782426 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1464782548 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464782683 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464783558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn bézout/Bézout's theorem says that if a system of polynomial equations over the complexes has as many variables as equations, then in the general case the number of solutions it has is equal to the product of one less than the degrees of the polynomials. < 1464783583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/bézout/bézout': No such file or directory \ Learned 'bézout/bézout'': bézout/Bézout's theorem says that if a system of polynomial equations over the complexes has as many variables as equations, then in the general case the number of solutions it has is equal to the product of one less than the degrees of < 1464783591 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn bézout/Bézout's theorem says that if a system of polynomial equations over the complexes has as many variables as equations, then in the general case the number of solutions it has is equal to the product of one less than the degrees of the polynomials. < 1464783603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «bézout» < 1464783617 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -i wisdom/{bézout,bézout's} < 1464783620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1464783630 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -i "wisdom/{bézout,bézout's}" < 1464783632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: missing destination file operand after `wisdom/{b\303\251zout,b\303\251zout\'s}' \ Try `cp --help' for more information. < 1464783642 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -i wisdom/{bézout,bézout\'s} < 1464783649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464783653 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -i wisdom/{bézout,bezout} < 1464783658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464783659 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -i wisdom/{bézout,bezout\'s} < 1464783662 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -i wisdom/{bézout,bezout\'s theorem} < 1464783665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464783666 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: cannot stat `wisdom/{b\303\251zout,bezout\'s': No such file or directory < 1464783685 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -vi wisdom/{bézout,bezout"'s theorem"} < 1464783690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/b\303\251zout' -> `wisdom/bezout\'s theorem' < 1464783693 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -vi wisdom/{bézout,bézout"'s theorem"} < 1464783697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/b\303\251zout' -> `wisdom/b\303\251zout\'s theorem' < 1464784026 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464784031 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21//itidus21 just made some instant coffee, and did it again an instant later, and then again and again. where is all this coffee coming from? it has buried itidus21! where is itidus21? < 1464784048 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask itidus21 where are you? < 1464784048 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464784055 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BALCONY CHICKEN < 1464784363 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: probably under a lot of instant coffee < 1464784470 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464785107 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464785374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464786407 0 :Elronnd\StD!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump! < 1464786430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, any connection? ... boily has quit [Quit: BALCONY CHICKEN] Elronnd\StD has quit [Quit: Let's jump!] < 1464786701 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1464786935 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...jumping off of the Balcony is a bad idea before defeating . After defeating , it is still a bad idea, unless you wish to receive the "bad" ending... < 1464787084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if, instead of jumping off the Balcony, you drop that huge beam on him by shooting the supporting chains? < 1464787119 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I have no idea what we're talking about. < 1464787244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Madotsuki climbs the stairs, jumps off the side of the balcony and plummets downward, then everything becomes dark." ?! < 1464787284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I thought we were talking about something entirely different. < 1464787311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there must be many games with balconies :P < 1464787320 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first one google found for me < 1464787330 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, why someone would waste their time climbing up stairs only to jump off a balcony... < 1464787351 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could just, you know, walk to the area under the balcony. < 1464787417 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I've read about the game for all of 5 minutes I can tell you that you can't... because your room door is impassable (locked? apparently the heroine doesn't even bother trying the door, and just shakes her head) < 1464788673 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pk < 1464788695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464788821 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464788831 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so super mario bros is PSPACE-complete, eh < 1464788872 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PK is short for Phil Katz, an infamous player killer of the 1990s whose favorite method of attack was to deflate his enemies. < 1464788883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'pk': PK is short for Phil Katz, an infamous player killer of the 1990s whose favorite method of attack was to deflate his enemies. < 1464788942 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mario bros has crazy game mechanics... knocking monsters up through bricks? < 1464789023 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.mit.edu/2016/mario-brothers-hard-complexity-class-pspace-0601 heh nice < 1464789056 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mario < 1464789059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mario is a classic NP-hard problem invented by Nintendo. < 1464789073 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo wisdom/*[mM]ario* < 1464789075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/mario wisdom/supermarionation wisdom/supermarioperator < 1464789084 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this'll be fun < 1464789089 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? supermarionation < 1464789090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarionation is another name for the mushroom kingdom. < 1464789106 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? supermarioperator < 1464789107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1464789219 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a class between "finite state machine" and "turing-complete" for things that would be turing-complete if their environment gave them access to an external infinite memory? < 1464789265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I don't understand why that's somehow news today. is there a paper that proves something more than the original paper from 2009? < 1464789298 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, wasn't it already turing complete back then? or am I confusing mario games or something? < 1464789305 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1464789307 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not turing complete < 1464789309 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pspace complete < 1464789310 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1464789314 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pspace < 1464789315 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pspace? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464789336 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that seems a bit pointless; after all, Turing machines are finite automata with access to an infinite memory < 1464789421 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe the original super mario paper is form 2012 < 1464789429 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Hmm, I suppose. < 1464789448 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://erikdemaine.org/papers/Mario_FUN2016/paper.pdf < 1464789453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.1895 by Greg Aloupis, Erik D. Demaine, Alan Guo, Giovanni Viglietta is I think the famous paper, althoguh the research does go back by years < 1464789465 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that how finite the finite state machine is defines if it could implement something. < 1464789477 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have wisdom entries about this? I thoguht `? mario or something would tell < 1464789482 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? super mario < 1464789485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mario? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464789500 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thanks < 1464789558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... what < 1464789575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok, that's REALLY interesting < 1464789584 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thanks for nudging, I'll have to look at that article in detail < 1464789598 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :later, that is < 1464789650 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially they have a new door device that looks embarassingly simple, but is based on a game mechanic that I didn't expect. < 1464789655 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've never played those games) < 1464789686 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it doesn't matter much, the original result is quite general and applies to lots of games, so I expect this one would as well < 1464789695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a specific game or two doesn't matter < 1464789712 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've probably played at least one 2d scroller game where it applies < 1464789720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where some of the results apply that is < 1464790235 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't much new from the general framework perspective, I think; they just instantiate their existing PSPACE framework. < 1464790356 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's an interesting idea of exploiting timers for NP-hardness proofs. < 1464790429 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzizggebtzsztqfb JOIN :#esoteric < 1464790631 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok, I will still read later < 1464791024 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1464792243 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:30a0:3b8f:3420:8df7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464792684 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:30a0:3b8f:3420:8df7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464792823 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464793845 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464794530 0 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable044.198-20-96.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464794649 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464794654 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 PART #esoteric : < 1464795132 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Git question. How do I list all tags together with the commits they point to? (git branch -l -a -v) lists all branches together with the commit id they point to (plus two other columns that are irrelevant here), but (git tag -l) which lists tags doesn't have the relevant fields. Do I have to invoke (git rev-parse) for each tag or something? < 1464795598 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :git tag --format '%(refname:short) %(objectname)' < 1464795627 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, better swap those two fields to get a readable output) < 1464795997 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464796191 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thanks < 1464796240 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently --format is an argument that doesn't work for the (git branch) command, so I can't just do almost the same thing for tags and branches < 1464796243 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no matter < 1464796249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will help, I'll add it to my script < 1464796429 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :git for-each-ref --format '%(objectname) %(refname)' refs/heads refs/tags < 1464796457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a reference to git-for-each-ref in the documentation for git-tag's --format flag) < 1464796582 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just getting more low-level that way... but you can treat tags and branches and remote branches in a fairly uniform way < 1464797417 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah, thanks < 1464797454 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm already treating remote branches too (well, fetched snapshots of remote branhces), because git branch -a does that < 1464797647 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's good to know about for-each-ref , I'll use that next time I want this < 1464797985 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Mario is a classic PSPACE-complete problem invented by Nintendo. < 1464798015 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'mario': Mario is a classic PSPACE-complete problem invented by Nintendo. < 1464798015 0 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable044.198-20-96.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464800302 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464800919 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:14db:6e50:9a0d:5386 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464801002 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:14db:6e50:9a0d:5386 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464801026 0 :izabera1!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1464801093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07A programming language is a formal constructed language designed to communicate instructions to a machine, particularly a computer.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47097&oldid=46134 5* 03M654 5* (+86) 10 < 1464801371 0 :ybden_!~ybden@hephaestus.vehk.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464801507 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464801534 0 :ybden_!~ybden@hephaestus.vehk.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1464801546 0 :ybden_!~ybden@hephaestus.vehk.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464801596 0 :izabera1!?@? NICK :izabera < 1464802003 0 :ybden_!~ybden@hephaestus.vehk.de QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1464802013 0 :ybden_!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464802101 0 :ybden_!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Client Quit < 1464802117 0 :ybden_!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464806423 0 :ybden_!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1464806435 0 :ybden_!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464806491 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1464806549 0 :ybden_!?@? NICK :ybden < 1464806849 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1464806859 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464807010 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwviuutavpcjfxys JOIN :#esoteric < 1464808196 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1464808212 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorms < 1464809580 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it /have/ to be formal? < 1464810319 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky question < 1464810391 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm inclined to say yes, with the justification that any implementation of the programming language can serve as a formal specification... but you can take a more strict view on what "formal" means... < 1464810392 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464810474 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a large grey area anyway... if you tell Siri to add two and three, and multiply the result by five... and assuming it does so... does that constitute an act of programming? < 1464810538 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't the google assistant have a name < 1464810545 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464810556 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google now? < 1464810580 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :even microsoft gave their Siri a name... Cortana. < 1464810597 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Google calls theirs "Assistant". < 1464810617 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as far as I can see, please tell me if I'm wrong) < 1464810639 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1464810657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i shpuod probably know more about those than i do < 1464810677 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre our competitors after all < 1464810736 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its officially called the google now app < 1464810859 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey, now, what's the time?" ... mmm, no that doesn't sound right. < 1464810861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1464810995 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464811084 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with most of tjese you can customize the actovation phrase < 1464811220 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, another memory lapse... I read some scifi story where the hero (who is with the military), together with some hundred other people, gets an assistant implanted... and he decides to call it "asshole"... and gets warned that this is a very popular choice. < 1464811276 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be important when you have a voice activated car and phone. "hey Civic" to talk to your car. "hey galaxy" to talk to your phone < 1464811313 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the defaults are important for product branding < 1464811327 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464811351 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay Google? < 1464811481 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464811569 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh speaking of google some sort of recruiter from them called me just now. < 1464811621 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a pain < 1464811628 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the one hand, you could say "what, they just... called you???"... on the other hand, what's the chance it's really a google recruiter? < 1464811676 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the same person had emailed me and is pestering me on linkedin < 1464811681 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I theorize that it is actually Vermicious Knid. < 1464811692 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*actually a Vermicious Knid. < 1464811697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the recruiter tell you to scram? < 1464811701 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you at work where you can forward them to the legal department :P < 1464811764 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw it the email is < 1464811783 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzarnegar@google.com < 1464811796 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds legitimate < 1464811797 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did you double check the authenticity of the sender? < 1464811801 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check the email headers < 1464811808 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Received-From, etc. < 1464811834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you expecting the email to be illegitimate? < 1464811865 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not expecting, but it's a possibility that should be kept in mind < 1464811893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks legit. seems sleazy for them to be nagging a competirors employees < 1464811904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that sleazy? < 1464811910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleazy would be the opposite. < 1464811919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact they got sued for it. < 1464811940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that's a legitimate @google.com email address, it's easy to look it up. < 1464811975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can just send email to it. < 1464812036 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just dumped her over the phone < 1464812052 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...That phrasing has fun implications. < 1464812078 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea, I don't like phones either? < 1464812095 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabbyzarnegar appears to be the person in question < 1464812103 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1464812116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You work at SoundHound, don't you? < 1464812120 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1464812120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that even a competitor? < 1464812154 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i work on our voice assisyant, Hound < 1464812169 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Google does have a sound search feature as well. < 1464812175 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'd guess most people don't even know it exists. < 1464812186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google's search feature is pretty sound. < 1464812190 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Houndify platform < 1464812207 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A (sound search) feature, not a sound (search feature). < 1464812220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it searches soundly? < 1464812242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you talking about Google Maps? < 1464812249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it can search bays too. < 1464812256 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464812284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1464812289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have experience using both the Waterfall methodology and Agile/XP methodologies" < 1464812296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many methodologies < 1464812312 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunayely yes < 1464812337 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone post oren's job history into a side-channel or something? < 1464812347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anyone who says that they "use Waterfall"? < 1464812352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was mostly a straw man. < 1464812363 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah hes probably reading my linkedin < 1464812377 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464812395 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :straw men should easily keep afloat ... < 1464812409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm reading https://www.quora.com/How-can-the-sequence-3-7-15-31-63-etc-be-continued/answer/Oren-Watson < 1464812421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think you got that one wrong. < 1464812437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/math-diff-2-4.txt explains the correct method. < 1464812446 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :127. 126. 42. < 1464812547 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puget Sound is the only sound I know of. < 1464812659 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ex [x] = repeat x; ex xs = scanl (+) (head xs) (ex (zipWith (-) (tail xs) xs)) in ex [0,1,3,7,15,31,63] < 1464812661 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,3,7,15,31,63,126,246,465,847,1485,2509,4095,6475,9948,14892,21777,31179... < 1464812663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's a sound sound, though. < 1464812726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think I'd continue it as 3, 7, 15, 31, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, ... < 1464812732 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :("ex" stands for "extrapolate", of course) < 1464812785 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, 17 would come after 42 for me, in the list of most plausible answers < 1464812805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, did you read the link I posted? < 1464812886 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not in full detail. but according to that link you should continue with 19 :-P < 1464812975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any shell-based twitter clients? < 1464812992 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( curl ) < 1464813040 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd also bet that the answer is yes. < 1464813048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know any. < 1464813077 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm too lazy to construct a lmgtfy link. < 1464813134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1464813159 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464813159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. < 1464813165 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... it should probably say something about being obnoxious there. < 1464813248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e attempts to use certain spräk deriviations to confuse gamemanj. < 1464813258 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e succeeds in this. < 1464813259 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464813267 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits int-e < 1464813276 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/int-e < 1464813280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464813289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan boily boily oerjan oerjan < 1464813293 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though the former question is also valid... but hackego isn't the authority on that matter) < 1464813327 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if you're too lazy to construct a lmgtfy link... < 1464813343 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean you need a lmlmgtfyfy link? < 1464813352 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: basically "inte" is a swedish word, meaning "not"... so that gave rise to the first sentence, and I pretty much gave you all information that is required to guess its meaning... < 1464813380 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: perhaps < 1464813383 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, are you... swedish < 1464813401 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ... < 1464813416 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for future reference, I do not know Swedish, but I know Swedish text when I see it, and I also know that spräk means language.) < 1464813420 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no. < 1464813425 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, don't play games with me this is serious! < 1464813427 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok goo < 1464813428 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*d < 1464813443 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would that be a bad thing? < 1464813445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the language either. < 1464813464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You're too lazy to make a lmgtfy link? < 1464813476 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I already commented on that. < 1464813493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The solution is a lmlmgtfyfy link. < 1464813511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because it's meta < 1464813522 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, meta-meta, really. < 1464813523 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a mklmgtfy command < 1464813563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google twitter command line client linux < 1464813564 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tecmint.com/rainbow-stream-command-line-twitter-client-linux/ < 1464813564 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Rainbow Stream - An Advanced Command-line Twitter Client for Linux < 1464813596 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@lmgtfy help < 1464813596 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1464813606 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly there's room for improvement there < 1464813615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always[assumed int-e was a variable declaration < 1464813627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I tried to use SoundHound but it didn't work. < 1464813631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever. < 1464813647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're supposed to be able to hum into it to find a name for a melody, right? < 1464813686 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. although it only works if youre good at humming i find < 1464813702 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want to try soundhound < 1464813708 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with really obscure songs < 1464813759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1464813765 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[translation] both our infinite dreams and our sketched out future..." < 1464813774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lmg shell-based twitter client < 1464813775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shell-based+twitter+client < 1464813783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not perfect, but it works at least a little < 1464813794 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquid mineral gas? < 1464813809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It won't substitute special characters with %-codes, but it will at least deal with spaces) < 1464813811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah, sure < 1464813824 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ludicrous mind games < 1464813831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You're welcome < 1464813843 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1464813846 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...soundhound wants access to: Location, Files, Microphone, Wi-Fi connection information, Device ID and call information... < 1464813854 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 4 of those which should not be in that list < 1464813862 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Location, Files, Device ID and call information < 1464813873 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use bitlbee. does this qualify as a shell-based twitter client? < 1464813882 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probs not < 1464813891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I've always hated apps that request permissions they should not want. I never give them permission to, in most cases < 1464813916 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm not sure why it wants those < 1464813919 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Location it just shouldn't have, end of. Files it could possibly have a reason to access if you told it to. < 1464813926 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microphone it obviously needs. < 1464813940 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wi-Fi connection information is fine because you don't want it to eat data costs. < 1464813946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, no game should want any permissions. /Maybe/ pictures if it has a built-in screencap capability < 1464813952 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :location is so it can tell you what oeople near you are listenibg to < 1464813953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't lmgtfy.com have a "slightly less rude" mode? < 1464813956 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually location seems to be the most useful of the four... popular songs vary wildly by country < 1464813962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does it? < 1464813970 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong - moddable games need some way to give them the Lua files. But it shouldn't have anything else. < 1464813976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1464813979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's LMBTFY < 1464813993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For horrible people < 1464813995 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's even worse, since it means it won't find my really obscure song of choice. < 1464814008 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :device id makes no sense at all to me (except for tracking, obviously), and neither do contacts (but I bet there's a "share this find with..." feature) < 1464814018 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: the other 99% of users won't care! < 1464814024 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464814027 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1464814036 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is sociak media integration yeah < 1464814044 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont mind games wanting internetty permissions, for scoreboards and the like < 1464814049 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :files... no clue why it wants that < 1464814067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can't find anything labeled "less rude" or the like < 1464814073 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just about everything seems to want the USB storage permission. < 1464814076 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you add &n=1 to the URL. < 1464814076 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can save songs tpfrom itunes etc < 1464814076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's v. annoying. < 1464814081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's slightly less rude that way. < 1464814090 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :big data idea: get a taste for music preferences :P < 1464814096 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a theoretical reason that it would want files, so that you can give it music < 1464814109 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without having to play it back into the phone < 1464814125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really it's location and device ID that it has no reason for < 1464814133 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can use it as a music plqyer app < 1464814136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get more calls < 1464814141 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of this app < 1464814153 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in M and later you can just turn off those permissions you don't want to give. < 1464814186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android? < 1464814193 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :SoundHound seems to work (or at least run) with location, storage and telephone ("phone status and identity") disabled. < 1464814204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mascarpone isn't even a dessert. < 1464814296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, according to that link, I should use my favourite number + 1. < 1464814298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong is that there's essentially no penalty for apps that ask for excessive permissions. < 1464814302 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only work on Hound though not soundhound, and only the backend < 1464814304 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hums "SoundHound Did Not Hear Any Music" < 1464814304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as to avoid revealing any character defects. < 1464814307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464814349 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the most annoying SoundHound feature I know of: it pops up notifications about songs apparently at random. < 1464814351 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464814352 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1464814355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually found it < 1464814357 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whenever a feature is added that might, in some obscure case, use a certain feature... < 1464814361 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well done, SoundHound < 1464814366 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:30a0:3b8f:3420:8df7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464814438 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... why doesn't it have accelerometer access... surely that must be useful to compensate for the doppler effect when you drop the phone while humming a song... < 1464814438 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can you set permissions in smaller pieces than that (such as to specify which directories it can see and which one it sees as root of the storage, and which internet services it can access and what proxies to use, and to fake device ID and so on)? < 1464814468 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: At some point it would become "too difficult for users to use" < 1464814484 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put it into the "Advanced" menu then. < 1464814484 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but perhaps you don't have to ask permission for those?) < 1464814502 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to difficult for[users to bother doing < 1464814504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also recalibration of accelerometer per program < 1464814522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What if your favorite number is -1? < 1464814555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [2^n | n <- [0..]] :: [Int8] < 1464814557 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,4,8,16,32,64,-128,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0... < 1464814575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your favorite number < 1464814575 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: look at the chicago kent symposium which deals with narrow scope of the " round body mustang" and the beatles' " all you need is love" are both in use. fnord ( user fnord) < 1464814576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464814582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if my favourite number is -1? < 1464814591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've asked zzo38 what my favourite number is but he won't tell me. < 1464814606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wait, you use your favorite number + 1 where? According to what link? < 1464814620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The http link I posted above. < 1464814648 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was after you joined. < 1464814662 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You don't need special permissions for the accelerometer. You do need the BODY_SENSORS permission "to access data from sensors that the user uses to measure what is happening inside his/her body, such as heart rate." < 1464814782 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course in certain situations the accelerometer... < 1464814787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see < 1464814801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was on &n=1 < 1464814952 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:30a0:3b8f:3420:8df7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464815173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464815844 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eh, there are all sorts of permissions which could be evil in "certain situations" < 1464815950 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why to add the ability to configure proxies and so on < 1464816005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the phone's accelerometer detects a certain special sequence of movements, then it should log this information for future use. < 1464816024 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Android keylogger app – powered by accelerometer/gyroscope movements – revealed" < 1464816038 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011.. has it been that long < 1464816092 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, I was thinking about building one of those, glad it's already done so I don't have to < 1464816335 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464816463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464816496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464816514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The inverse (or something) of the pigeonhole principle is something I haven't heard talked about < 1464816534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have n pigeons in n+1 holes, then there is at least one empty hole < 1464816538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i use kinect to set a password consisting of poses? < 1464816558 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a para para password < 1464816569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: If you're willing to root the system, then yes. < 1464816573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Otherwise, maybe < 1464816660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I wonder why there isn't legislation requiring legitimate owners of a computer system to be able to legally and easily (like, easy-to-find-guide-on-the-website easy) root the system. < 1464816701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I don't see how it can be legal to prevent the legitimate owner of a system from doing whatever the hell they want with that system, as long as they aren't violating other laws in the process < 1464816841 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hollywood is too strong for that to happen in the US < 1464816861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will you protect movies on hardware that's actually run by its owners? < 1464816883 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oversimplifying, of course, but DRM is a driving factor behind all this < 1464816916 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was designing the computer machine and had the idea to use a combination of copyright and trademark laws to ensure that anyone who has such a computer (regardless of if it is a clone from another manufacturer or whatever) can legally and easily root the system (although you are unliekly to need to root it to do nearly all things, and to alter ROMs and so on requires a standard screwdriver) < 1464816938 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vendors aren't too unhappy about the resulting customer lockin either < 1464817409 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kinda bizarre how much clout Hollywood has relative to their actual wealth. < 1464817595 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], the phrasing of that makes it sound like a tautology < 1464817602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love today's xkcd < 1464817618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, I know < 1464817661 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464817911 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464818349 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464819243 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464819764 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464820882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464821299 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464821344 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464822192 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464822451 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464822467 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a low-level git command that prints the .git directory for the current repository, and one that prints the directory associated with the current worktree? < 1464822493 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess one that prints the root directory of the checkout also helps. < 1464822522 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is there a website where I can see the full manual pages of git online, always for a recent version of git (more fresh than what I have installed)? I'm trying to look at https://git-scm.com/docs/git but that seems to be missing some generated part of the git(1) manpage where it lists commands. < 1464822593 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464822672 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464822693 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464822852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464822910 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464823764 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464823913 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464824044 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464824426 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: git rev-parse --show-toplevel < 1464824490 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I meant: git rev-parse --git-dir < 1464824498 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the .git directory. < 1464824657 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit curiously there seems to be no corresponding rev-parse option to show the GIT_WORK_TREE. < 1464824740 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's what the "top-level directory" means in this context. < 1464825395 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464825416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lystrosaur//The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. < 1464826682 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log (1.7 * 10**38) < 1464826683 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 88.02886178483591 < 1464826688 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp 88 :: Float < 1464826690 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.6516363e38 < 1464826698 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp 89 :: Float < 1464826701 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1464826756 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex... isn't here < 1464826757 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah < 1464826771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is "Jan Mayen" < 1464826833 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon joily < 1464826856 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hurray for daytime that extents until 9pm) < 1464826909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464826931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by two//An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. < 1464826933 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? infinity < 1464826938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464826984 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464827087 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. it is suddenly very important that i create an esolang such that "being locked in a matrix of solidity" is meaningful in terms of describing program state < 1464827114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn infinity/In finity we trust. < 1464827119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464827129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «infinity» < 1464827166 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn finity/Enjoy being locked in your matrix of finity. < 1464827173 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «finity» < 1464827208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464827243 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1] < 1464827350 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464827498 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464827512 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like he's having lots of them connection issues < 1464827529 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi koen < 1464827681 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1464827695 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :connection tissues are important < 1464827932 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if they help with the issues < 1464828075 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shakespeare < 1464828081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shakespeare? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464828085 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn shakespeare/And besicue and a saint and son the may bean the butcious and one them bear and may me for here the mance of my lord, and leave and thou arl of the prince and will not and and hour blood and the be buralont; < 1464828088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «shakespeare» < 1464828134 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is your keyboard drunk? < 1464828373 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsointopia! < 1464828525 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turned from day to evening in the time it took you to reply < 1464828622 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No no, that's from one of Shakespeare's plays. < 1464828685 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's from your matrix multiplier. < 1464828690 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A relatively obscure one: "The Man the Confent and the Confent and the Man the Man and the Man". < 1464828701 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I confess, it's from my matrix multiplier. < 1464828701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. < 1464828720 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. < 1464828723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1281) I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. < 1464828727 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just a shakespearean markov chain? < 1464828742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Did you see the discussion in #haskell about copprofunctors? < 1464828832 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly < 1464828907 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, it's a neural net. < 1464828922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's an artificial neural network. < 1464828930 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, okay, one last time: < 1464828941 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone else in this channel looked at http://skullcode.com/ before? < 1464829025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that viewer thing looking at its own memory? < 1464829140 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464829180 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is that some kind of mastermind-like riddle? < 1464829217 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, it's a 32-bit VM with a hex editor loaded into it < 1464829270 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you scroll down to the address 00006666 there's a graphic with an exclamation mark in it, and if you overwrite that exclamation mark with a space or NUL then stuff starts happening < 1464829344 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://skullcode.com/bootstrap/hexboot.txt if you want to play the more dangerous game than just mess around in the browser. < 1464829382 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing's for x86, though, and a lot smaller than skullcode; it's a spiritual predecessor < 1464829528 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a block of encrypted data from 61b0 to 65b0; it's pretty easy to play along with it and get a password that'll decrypt the first 32 bytes, but i have no clue how to get at the rest < 1464829942 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a disassembler if anyone's interested < 1464830626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464830695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zhoily. < 1464830769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e I think GND is still not considered to be SafeHaskell anyway. <-- oh right. < 1464830770 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464830806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e anyway, turns out there's probably no exploit there. < 1464830806 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464830868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: GND is the opposite end from Vcc hth < 1464830915 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you do electronics? < 1464830915 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: this is not the other way around... fnord/ home < 1464830925 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: apparently not. < 1464830925 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm editing this down. user:guernseykidguernseykid 03:54, 26 june 2006 ( utc). small—preceding wikipedia:signaturesunsigned comment added by special:contributions/ fnord) < 1464830939 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat < 1464830987 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when designing circuits, you have Vcc on one end, and GND at the other end. stuff go between them. < 1464830995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1464831009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really do electronics, obviously. < 1464831144 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :electronics aren't very much more complicated than that. Vcc is the plus end on your battery. I give you two tries to match what GND is :P < 1464831171 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you heard about super mario bros being pspace-complete? < 1464831176 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays, it's like: read the spreadsheet, supply the correct voltage, ?????, profit. < 1464831179 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish i could find a preprint < 1464831181 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: eh? < 1464831202 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/spread/spec/. damned time spent doing excel. < 1464831216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i had already guessed what GND is. < 1464831222 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: turns out you can make arbitrary circuits by opening or closing pathways by jumping to bump spinies on one or another side of a brick barrier < 1464831267 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is intrigued < 1464831275 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1464831287 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the paper isn't presented until next week, and it isn't available anywhere < 1464831299 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even on arxiv? < 1464831372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : The horror <-- i get the impression hppavilion[1] is a bit sensitive. < 1464831410 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1464831420 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION horrifies hppavilion[1] with a pluridimensional mapole < 1464831996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom usual < 1464831999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usual suspect//There are 3.99 usual suspects in #esoteric, but they're usually rounded up. < 1464832006 0 :quintopia!?@? NICK :Quintopia < 1464832252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/usual < 1464832260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464832266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/usual suspect < 1464832275 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf shachaf < 1464832298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am conflicted. < 1464832302 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is the usual suspect < 1464832332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the one hand, that deserves a swat, on the other i didn't get the pun until now. < 1464832356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives shachaf an IOU for a swat. < 1464832386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, you didn't get the pun until now? < 1464832391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct. < 1464832393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explains why I wasn't swatted. < 1464832402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought for sure that one would earn me a swat. < 1464832471 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it nobody else is very interested in skullcode then < 1464832474 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you have a mobile internettified swatter? < 1464832542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too many buzzwords tdnh < 1464832651 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also too many acronyms < 1464832671 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should try the new iSwatter. comes in a tall glass! < 1464832705 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what pun?) < 1464832764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see _Casablanca_? < 1464832770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: in the wisdom hth < 1464832826 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because round up might mean two things? < 1464832842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes. < 1464832928 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464833183 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464833257 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1464833279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :problems? < 1464833360 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i can't install/upgrade vmail because of a problem with its gem dependencies. i don't know enough about ruby and gems to fix it. < 1464833447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do i. < 1464834096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*zout* < 1464834104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bezout \ wisdom/bézout \ wisdom/bezout's \ wisdom/bézout's \ wisdom/bezout's theorem \ wisdom/bézout's theorem < 1464834122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bezout < 1464834128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bézout < 1464834129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1464834134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1464834136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bezout's < 1464834136 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it appears that i can't install vim with clientserver flag enabled (or compile it from source) without installing most of gnome? < 1464834141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1464834144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bézout's < 1464834148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1464834154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bézout's theorem < 1464834158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bezout's theorem < 1464834162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1464834167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1464834210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -v wisdom/b{e,é}zout{,\'s} < 1464834215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed `wisdom/bezout' \ removed `wisdom/bezout\'s' \ removed `wisdom/bézout' \ removed `wisdom/bézout\'s' < 1464834244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas seriously, don't make 6 copies of the same wisdom entry. < 1464834244 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464834407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bezout's theorem < 1464834409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bézout's theorem says that if a system of polynomial equations over the complexes has as many variables as equations, then in the general case the number of solutions it has is equal to the product of one less than the degrees of the polynomials. < 1464834412 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if they were symbolic links? < 1464834418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1464834428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quintopia: sadly, symbolic links sometimes get broken. < 1464834433 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464834438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by `reverts. < 1464834450 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TIGHT CHICKEN < 1464834561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i care in this case, it's a crappy entry.) < 1464834570 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ī keep forgetting about mȳ macron propōsal. < 1464834598 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whȳ dōn't Ī tȳpe līke this all the tīme? < 1464834844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I forget, what was I horrified about? < 1464834859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: goat sex hth < 1464834860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1464834864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember now < 1464838405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464838573 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda interesting looking at video memory in a hex editor. < 1464838645 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is, of course, you're looking at a display of the display. Like pointing a TV camera at the TV that's showing the signal. < 1464838993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION soundly swats shachaf -----### < 1464839045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :delayed-action logreading < 1464839079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the speed of sound isn't that great < 1464839109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i faster than the speed of sound in a vacuum < 1464839475 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj spräk does not mean language hth < 1464839475 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464839671 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1464839681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i,i what is i,i < 1464839737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464840054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ask rntz hth < 1464840071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never know what it actually stands for. < 1464840694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47098&oldid=47066 5* 0371.202.114.203 5* (+129) 10 < 1464841012 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464841340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1464841344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subfactorial is a thing < 1464841601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5-3=-15 < 1464841931 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464842533 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the inverse of factorial called? < 1464842551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fictionorial < 1464843098 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464843279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..huh < 1464843284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*... < 1464843297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atoms literally pass through each other when going fast enough < 1464843305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it, I'm convinced. The universe is a simulation. < 1464843311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a rather poorly-made one at that < 1464843710 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464843884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1281 < 1464843886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1281) I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. < 1464843902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1281 < 1464843911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. < 1464843916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, now you don't even need to worry about the double space < 1464843919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464844234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You're only allowed to delete quotes after reading at least 5 quotes hth < 1464844278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, for every 5 quotes you read in a 1-hour timespan, you may delete one of the quotes that you read) < 1464844366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled hppavilion[1]///./d < 1464844371 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosebud! < 1464844391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you considered that some people don't want to have movie spoilers right in HackEgo hth < 1464844537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1464844541 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1464844567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example a decade ago I didn't even know about that spoiler. < 1464844570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wait, what? How does sled work again? < 1464844583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't think that rule applies to very recent quotes hth < 1464844591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right < 1464844615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote do they work.*zzo38 < 1464844616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1056) Hmm, is an Electronic Signature in a PDF file a thing? How do they work? [1] Yes. [2] It doesn't. < 1464844762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it lets you apply a sed script to a file hth < 1464844771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? < 1464844798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is generation 0. Every time you see this line in a signature, if your signature does not already contain such a line, add this line to your signature with the count multiplied by i and incremented by 1" < 1464844823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled canary//s/ø/ꙮ/ < 1464844824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary//test < 1464844827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464844837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone's changed it < 1464844848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv canary tmp < 1464844849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `canary tmp' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1464844877 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cp canary tmp < 1464844878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: missing destination file operand after `canary tmp' \ Try `cp --help' for more information. < 1464844889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled canary//s/e/ꙮ/ < 1464844892 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary//tꙮst < 1464844899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote canary < 1464844900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464844993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first 100 possibilities are 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i < 1464844999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much less interesting than I thought < 1464845027 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hpp < 1464845028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1244) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there \ 1255) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang \ 1256) VMS Mosaic? I hope that's not Mosaic ported to VMS. Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. \ 608) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. \ 612) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has g < 1464845081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 612 < 1464845081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, it does < 1464845082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :612) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theory. < 1464845108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I should probably think about complex numbers before using them. < 1464845124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :First figure out the mplex numbers. < 1464845144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can figure out the simplex numbers. < 1464845151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Those are the split-complexes, aren't they? < 1464845163 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a simplicial complex is made out of a simplex number and a complex number. < 1464845198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ørjan is an expert in simplicial complexes and homology and all sorts of things < 1464845202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do like smashing together different types of complex < 1464845205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet he's taught oerjan a thing or two. < 1464845210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google simplicial complex < 1464845211 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplicial_complex < 1464845213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a+bi+cj+dij < 1464845254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: aren't you confusing complexes and hadrons < 1464845278 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agh everything is exploding < 1464845279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's a hadron? As in, the large kind that we like colliding? < 1464845298 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't that large < 1464845305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed they're not < 1464845315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're larger than electrons, though < 1464845318 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1464845325 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all relative; good thing we have theories to handle that < 1464845330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, by mass. < 1464845339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Um, then why do we have a machine to collide large hadrons? < 1464845351 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because who doesn't like exotic explosions? < 1464845375 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it when my fuel tanks explode < 1464845391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No one, but if hadrons weren't large, then a collider for large hadrons wouldn't be able to make exotic explosions. < 1464845401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there wouldn't be anything to collide < 1464845416 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1464845429 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all got to do with the theory of relativity < 1464845438 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at relativistic speeds, hadrons are relatively large < 1464845440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being able to use dvorak at a wpm so high you need scientific notation to express it is useless when you're at a qwerty keyboard < 1464845450 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why the collider needs to get them going so fast < 1464845482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the obscene hardon collider myself, though < 1464845498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were trying not to make that joke, hppavilion[1] < 1464845508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was too, but I failed < 1464845525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I at least found a mildly funny context for it < 1464845528 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: the LHC beam has about 362 MJ in it during the course of normal operation < 1464845552 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about $18 of electricity < 1464845552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Meh. I prefer HJ-scale colliders < 1464845573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are some expensive dollars < 1464845580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes < 1464845622 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HJ? < 1464845663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't answer that. < 1464845678 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1464845685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Hellajoule < 1464845719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes he has a dirtier mind than hppavilion[1], then implodes. < 1464845724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What? Do you have something against hellajoules, or did you think it was another pointless joke? < 1464845730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hectojoule, i assume < 1464845734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yep, you thought it was dirty, when it wasn't < 1464845736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wins < 1464845741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* happydance < 1464845750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WAS A TRAP < 1464845755 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what oerjan was thinking < 1464845759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It was not < 1464845773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still trying to figure it out. My best guess is H=hand < 1464845796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I prefer the Large Boson Collider to the Large Hadron Collider any day < 1464845857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, I have to ask: Is there a physics reason why Boson collisions aren't interesting? Or are they just impossible to deal with in the same way the LHC deals with Hadrons, so we had to make a choice and chose to make a Large Hadron Collider instead of a Large Boson Collider?) < 1464845917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course, if it makes you feel better, my mind is almost certainly dirtier than yours; I just happen to have developed a filter that prevents me from saying 999.9999999999952‰ of things that come to mind < 1464845934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you can collide composite nuclei that are bosons, i think. < 1464845956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, I forget, are Hadrons and Bosons mutually exclusive? < 1464845961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, so many particle types < 1464845968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they are colliding lead, but i'm not sure whether they're bosonic or fermionic. < 1464846026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, mesons are hadrons and bosons iirc. but you cannot keep them long enough to use them. < 1464846032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah < 1464846052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a meson called the Black Meson? < 1464846077 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A reference, of course, to Black Mesa from various Valve games I've never played) < 1464846105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically protons, electrons, and their antiversions are the only charged subatomic particles that live long enough to be used, i think. < 1464846136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't think there's one, they're usually named after greek letters. < 1464846143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah :/ < 1464846196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...question #492 on my Grand List of Questions: How the hell can there be such thing as an "Anti-neutron"? If an antiparticle has the opposite charge, and a neutron has no charge, how can there be such a thing as the opposite of 0? < 1464846334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: btw i think some people are trying to collide photons, which are bosons. < 1464846384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...collide photons? You have something moving at literally the speed of light, and which from its point of view the entire universe is in the same place, and you're trying to make them hit each other? < 1464846452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the anti-neutron consists of 3 anti-quarks, each of which is the antiparticle of a corresponding quark in the neutron. < 1464846468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes, that works < 1464846477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about quarks < 1464846497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what we're going to call it when we find something smaller than a quark... (don't argue, you know it's going to happen) < 1464846505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for a certain value of "consists". there are all manner of virtual gluons and quarks inside.) < 1464846631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i didn't say getting photons to collide is easy. (and i'm not sure whether it was supposed to be within currently realistic technology or not.) < 1464846651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you just to aim enough in the same spot, you'd think. < 1464846656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+have < 1464846687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Furthermore, you'd think that a couple photons would have collided at some point near a scientific instrument in the last decade or so < 1464846704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, photons are small < 1464846710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are also a lot of them < 1464846723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem like they could /not/ collide if it was possible < 1464846847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: fwiw your question about anti-neutrons applies much better to anti-_neutrinos_. (in which case something called "chirality" related to spin becomes reversed) < 1464846925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but neutrinos are so weird some theorize they are their own antiparticles ("Majorana neutrinos") < 1464847253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Santorum: "If people thought about gay sex as much as I do, they'd understand how disgusting it is" < 1464847357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1464847397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Like Chu spaces? < 1464847412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1464847415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And vector spaces, I guess. < 1464847421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-dual < 1464847543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds a bit of a thin connection < 1464847558 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no pun intended) < 1464847579 0 :Xe!~xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464847591 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or recognized) < 1464847618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not all that thin, because I was thinking of Chu spaces just now. < 1464847798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :practically monofilamentary < 1464847855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Chu spaces? < 1464847997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Would you rather be able to fly, but only at 0.000001c, or be able to breath underwater, but only for a millicentury" < 1464848022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^good "would you rather" to differentiate those who do understand math/physics/SI/etc from those who do not < 1464848071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please reconsider the perspective that leads you to write a sentence like that twh < 1464848082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Me? < 1464848088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1464848092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Me? < 1464848113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION desperately scrambles for a joke to make out of this < 1464848128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Which perspective in particular? < 1464848240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't see which perspective I need to reconsider < 1464848249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few I need to deconsider, though < 1464848643 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1464848664 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464849362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: always decant cider < 1464849635 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Pika spaces < 1464849644 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1464849677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible: A 640-year song < 1464850615 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari in a stereotypical Jamaican accent < 1464850629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, specific subsegments < 1464850703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you should sing it to a reggae beat hth < 1464852007 0 :Xe!~xe@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric < 1464853820 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um, if symlinks don't work, then could we have some other mechanism for aliasing wisdoms then? < 1464854121 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464854696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1464854716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've wanted to set something like that up. < 1464854738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wisdom redirects or something. Wisdom wildcards. Who even, like, knows, man. < 1464855866 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so add a wisdom/location directory, and if wisdom/$foo is not found, wisdom/location/$foo is read and it gives the canonical name to redirect to < 1464855886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that an improvement over links? < 1464855895 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not broken by revert < 1464855908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is that what it was about? < 1464855926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464855999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, with any kind of links you have the problem that the two versions either may get accidentally out of sync, or accidentally edited together when the edit only fits one of them. < 1464856852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464857407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1464857474 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzizggebtzsztqfb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464861055 0 :S1_p!5b402444@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.64.36.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464861092 0 :S1_p!5b402444@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.64.36.68 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the wisdomme is back. Yay. < 1464861345 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwviuutavpcjfxys QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464862187 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464863178 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464863192 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1464863673 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1464863701 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is glogbot broken again < 1464864419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so I think I want to set up an alias that can do a git checkout to an existing branch, but will absolutely refuse to do the file restore operation that the git checkout command also does. < 1464864450 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'd like it to print the previous branch or commit that was checked out, so it's easy to follow what happens. < 1464864598 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :git checkout is just too dangerous as is < 1464864771 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how to convince git checkout to do this. < 1464864797 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd want it to update what HEAD points at and maybe the index, but not do anything to the working tree? < 1464864818 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, I do want to do a full checkout, as in update the working tree and the index too < 1464864832 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, just disallow the variant of checkout that takes paths? < 1464864838 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, that < 1464864868 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :git's syntax for objects and paths are horribly ugly, and there are magical syntaxes that apply to both but have a completely different meaning < 1464864887 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, :/foo is both a path and an object, but the :/ means something completely different < 1464864898 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax is just horrible < 1464864943 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn does this much better, there the syntax of urls (pointing to a file in a repository, or a version of a file in a repository) have a syntax that's not only disjoint from that of paths, but also visually different < 1464864949 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't accidentally confuse them < 1464864972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the git checkout interface is horrible because it combines a safer operation with a very unsafe irreversible operation < 1464865256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might just allow -- in a script -- unambiguously-an-existing-branch-and-nothing-else options, and then fall back to being careful and using the raw command if you need to do something strange. < 1464865263 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully that'd cover most branch-switches. < 1464866565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464866734 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464867317 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464867413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464867473 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464867520 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464867676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464867758 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464867786 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464868263 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know, it's probably possible to solve in some way like that, but I'll have to do some careful testing on it < 1464868324 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly don't want to checkout only existing branches. I often checkout -b to create a new branch (from HEAD or another commit), but the script can probably test for that. < 1464868356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47099&oldid=40050 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (+5) 10Fixed a bug - & has a higher precedence than -, so the - following it had to be wrapped in <> < 1464868384 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, maybe I could make a script that does like (git checkout -B foo foo) to checkout branch foo < 1464868393 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pronounce ~-~! < 1464868418 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... why can't git just have at least an unambiguous long switch or command to force this, to make my life easier? < 1464868450 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when I solve this, I'll still have to solve the interface of git reset and git branch, although for those the ambiguity is less dangerous and for git branch I think I already know the solution < 1464868478 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464869434 0 :IvanSiber!~dm@dnm.187.71.126.92.dsl.krasnet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1464869701 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome IvanSiber < 1464869723 0 :IvanSiber!~dm@dnm.187.71.126.92.dsl.krasnet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey boily < 1464869732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08IvanSiber: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1464869897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47100&oldid=47099 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (+1) 10Added a : to the end of write comment < 1464870030 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-181-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1464870516 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: OPPOSITE CHICKEN < 1464870594 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-181-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464870958 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I set up an alias such that (git switch foo) will do the same as (git checkout foo --). This works even with multiple arguments, and shouldn't checkout paths, unless I explicitly pass "--" as an argument. < 1464870959 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464871147 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so my previous messing around during this week has finally come to a conclusion: < 1464871150 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/kyouma/index.html < 1464871387 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmvnkmtkxysivmcr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464871422 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464871442 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464871448 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: "i,i" means roughly "I have nothing to contribute, I just like saying", i.e. it's a prefix for off-topic one-liners < 1464871470 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comes from CMU zephyr (an old messaging protocol), I think < 1464871535 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oona < 1464871550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oona? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464871551 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name oona < 1464871554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oona's Blackguard \ 1B \ Creature -- Faerie Rogue \ 1/1 \ Flying \ Each other Rogue creature you control enters the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter on it. \ Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it deals combat damage to a player, that player discards a card. \ MOR-U \ \ Oona's Gatewarden \ (u/b) \ Creature -- Faerie < 1464871558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name oona, < 1464871560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oona, Queen of the Fae \ 3(u/b)(u/b)(u/b) \ Legendary Creature -- Faerie Wizard \ 5/5 \ Flying \ {X}{(u/b)}: Choose a color. Target opponent exiles the top X cards of his or her library. For each card of the chosen color exiled this way, put a 1/1 blue and black Faerie Rogue creature token with flying onto the battlefield. \ SHM-R, MMA-R, V11-M < 1464871903 0 :S1_p!5b402444@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.64.36.68 QUIT : < 1464872046 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464872350 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464872893 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-181-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1464873021 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464873269 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-181-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464873532 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oona is the 175th most common female name in Finland, with ~7500 people. < 1464873566 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1464873576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47101&oldid=47100 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (+105) 10Grammar and clarification < 1464873683 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47102&oldid=47101 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (-1) 10Changed associativity of & < 1464873779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47103&oldid=47102 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (-2) 10Bugfix - removed trailing : < 1464874176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47104&oldid=47103 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (+173) 10Clarification about : < 1464874233 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47105&oldid=47104 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (+1) 10Bugfix - removed trailing : < 1464874300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting the feeling asm.js should be classed as esoteric simply because of the crazy type checking < 1464874306 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's endless type checking < 1464874424 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1464874445 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a ton of casts to 32-bit int < 1464874519 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm trying to be nice, I'd say asm.js is a version of LLVM for the web, but now the type annotations are weirder. < 1464874547 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much about llvm but i'm sceptical < 1464874581 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, LLVM's relatively nice, it's like asm.js but you write in actual human-understandable string names for the type names instead of having to understand the exact details of how + modifies it's parameters. < 1464874597 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, it's SSA. < 1464874610 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again again, people just stackalloc everything anyway. < 1464874617 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm.js can basically only work with 32-bit ints, that's one big difference < 1464874635 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's true < 1464874658 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how they're going to weasel their way out of that one when it inevitably reaches the point where applications are limited < 1464874679 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they will < 1464874697 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you mean browser vendors will just detect this sort of thing? < 1464874745 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it'll just only be used to write fast code operating on 32-bit ints < 1464874774 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, a possibility. < 1464874810 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now then, time to go use 32MiB instead of 16 because asm.js wants me to jump up to the next power of two to avoid a bounds check. Seriously. < 1464874836 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The ironic thing is that I added the 8 extra bytes because this is how to avoid bounds checks on BytePusher) < 1464874892 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...either that or I technically violate specification... < 1464874906 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...eh, violating specification it is. < 1464874919 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1464875069 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and now the browser gives me a second annoyance... "unable to cache asm.js in synchronous scripts"??? < 1464875123 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sincerely hope that the lack of caching refers to if I happen to compile the same function twice, and not if I happen to reuse the same function instance... < 1464875126 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the skullcode vm is in asm.js, i actually find it a lot more readable than the minified JS that defines all the interface code < 1464875144 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is readable asm.js out there < 1464875261 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464875330 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post-ASM.JS version of JIT, performance seems to be...worse than with the Pre-ASM.JS version of the JIT, judging by the now-stuttering audio... < 1464875361 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it does keep having little bits where it runs normally... < 1464875378 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464875388 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.223.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464875421 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, audio was always this "clicky", but it didn't outright stop as much. Good thing I have a backup of the pre-ASM.JS'd JIT. < 1464875472 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.223.50 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464875498 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems it's actually not compiling more segments - it's literally just the overhead from running the asm.js. < 1464875550 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew there'd be some entry/exit overhead due to the nature of the JIT, which would offset the benefit somewhat, but this bad? < 1464875552 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are running this on a JS interpreter which can compile the asm.js into machine code, right? < 1464875562 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox. Hence I was getting asm.js warnings. < 1464875572 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I then resolved, < 1464875582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't seem to have helped that much... < 1464875594 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's saying "successfully compiled asm.js code". < 1464875719 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on are you writing asm.js manually?? < 1464875737 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably explain what's going on < 1464875745 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a BytePusher JIT < 1464875761 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That JIT compiles segments of BytePusher code into JavaScript < 1464875773 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I then changed it to write it into asm.js < 1464875779 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pre-ASM.JS: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/kyouma/index.html < 1464875783 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post-ASM.JS: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/kyouma-asm/index.html < 1464875830 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I at least notice is that although pre-asm.js, it's stuttery, once the VM loads up segments most of the problems are just due to my bad audio code. < 1464875846 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post-asm.js, it just doesn't stop stuttering. < 1464875951 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A possibility is that perhaps the asm.js entry overhead causes the "which segment should be used for execution" code to be a lot slower, causing issues. < 1464875978 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This means that the issue should be resolved by making a non-ASM.JS copy of that code. < 1464876033 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: Multiple versions of one segment may be compiled for different circumstances. I assumed the "which segment to use" routine would benefit from asm.js, but I may well be wrong.) < 1464876230 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464876482 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmvnkmtkxysivmcr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo gamemanj do you know about jsMESS? < 1464876492 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmvnkmtkxysivmcr PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might help with what ever your doing < 1464876504 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Akaibu: Nope, but I can guess. And anyway, I'm messing with BytePusher, so... < 1464876534 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmvnkmtkxysivmcr PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/jsmess/jsmess www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Javascript_Mess < 1464876660 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmvnkmtkxysivmcr PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ^ < 1464876723 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not using emscripten ^.^; < 1464876811 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmvnkmtkxysivmcr PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to take tips though gamemanj < 1464876837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~-~!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47106&oldid=47105 5* 0380.7.4.196 5* (+3079) 10Finally fleshed out library semantics < 1464876849 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? can has < 1464876893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can has? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464876925 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but this is a JIT, not a standard interpreter (I already tried that with hand-written asm.js and got pretty good performance from it - I'm JITing things to try and improve on that.). If someone had a guide to asm.js efficiency in there, then that would be useful. < 1464877047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, of the 3, performance seems to be so far: [asm.js interpreter] > [Javascript-compiling JIT] > [asm.js-compiling JIT] < 1464877122 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait so you're regularly JITing blocks of bytepusher into asm.js? yeah i expect it's the startup overhead then < 1464877141 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at first there's obviously segment compilation overhead < 1464877150 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then there are times when it's slow and it's not compiling any segments < 1464877307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, during the initial startup phase, when it's generating tables (the program's 32k) it goes through the "base set" initialization, and that's relatively fast with not much segment compilation, followed by the first page of the "banks" initialization, which does tons of segment compilation, followed by the rest which does almost none. < 1464877340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, for the first few letters it displays on screen it's still compiling bits of the font renderer... < 1464877356 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But after that, it shouldn't be as slow as it ends up being. < 1464877370 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiled segments value drops. < 1464877696 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, uploaded new version, this time it has "CS" and "F" stats (CS is how many segments it's compiled so far this frame, F is which frame the VM is on.) < 1464877784 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit telling that the asm.js version is laggy during the first 4 seconds while the non-asm.js version isn't as laggy, even though CS:0 for all but a few frames... < 1464877791 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(both are JITs) < 1464877816 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be making a very serious mistake in how I write my asm.js... < 1464879132 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:edba:bc04:4cf8:b5eb QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464879171 0 :Cale_!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:b073:145c:19e4:aa48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464879337 0 :Cale_!?@? NICK :Cale < 1464879498 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464879793 0 :IvanSiber!~dm@dnm.187.71.126.92.dsl.krasnet.ru PART #esoteric : < 1464879864 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464881098 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464882603 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464883612 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464883857 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464885140 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464886501 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qsvhjspjjqrszgby JOIN :#esoteric < 1464886668 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464886928 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464888315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pokedex < 1464888362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokedex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464888367 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pokédex < 1464888377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokédex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464888460 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evolving < 1464888463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evolving? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464888468 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? super effective < 1464888470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :super effective? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464888473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? critical hit < 1464888476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :critical hit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464888505 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ポケモン図鑑 < 1464888509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ポケモン図鑑? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464888512 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464888702 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464888879 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm a supercritical hit < 1464888955 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the same as a its super effective critical hit? < 1464888975 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since installing Unifont, my ability to see the symbols you post has increased by orders of magnitude. My ability to understand them has not. < 1464889861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1464889873 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I was looking for a connection to supercritical fluids < 1464893750 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464893929 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464894404 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464894868 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464894935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464895143 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464895291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the Wikipedia article on "Computus", the family of algorithms one uses to calculate the date of Easter because one's church is a massive pain in the ass and doesn't just choose a fixed, symbolic date: < 1464895293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The last limit arises from the fact that the crucifixion was considered to have happened on the fourteenth (the eve of the Passover) and the resurrection therefore on the sixteenth." < 1464895314 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... Christianity? Are you sure you can really math? < 1464895929 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464896342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of "The more you know", we (the population of the internet) should use "the less you look like a dumbass" < 1464896495 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464896517 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464896999 0 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1464897010 0 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Client Quit < 1464897611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not use both? < 1464897619 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make a whole sentence! < 1464897831 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in two different ways < 1464897837 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464897930 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464897956 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464898016 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464898357 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464898416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/retiredgif is amazing < 1464898453 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464900218 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464900463 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 PART #esoteric : < 1464900584 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464900629 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464900636 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1464901088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1464901093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physics has a thing called "Sparticles" < 1464901100 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.- < 1464901105 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1464902062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464902412 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464902580 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464902827 0 :nycs!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464902859 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464903321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The intradisciplinary hub of solidity matrices, esoteric programming language design, and font forging | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1464903333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome shachaf < 1464903354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bye < 1464903371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`snackego < 1464903385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1464903385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bye: not found < 1464903387 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:) < 1464903525 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At some point someone ought to port a text adventure to HackEgo... < 1464903551 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, make it save on input, and reload when given a line of input < 1464903646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464903947 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once was a font forager now am a font forger < 1464904088 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? font < 1464904091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz < 1464904102 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a fourth one? < 1464904117 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464904169 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, hw about me? < 1464904172 0 :Cimmerian888!~textual@cpc77659-ely08-2-0-cust195.5-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464904172 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can do it < 1464904188 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464904205 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:38] At some point someone ought to port a text adventure to HackEgo... [16:39] That is, make it save on input, and reload when given a line of input < 1464904213 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it would be fun, if you want to ^.^ (though it might end up playing like Twitch Plays ) < 1464904217 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: by the way, I just checked http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , and strangely the webfont doesn't show up for me. but it's probably a problem on my side again < 1464904237 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I can confirm the font is visible, and I do not have the font installed. < 1464904237 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill allow save selection for ease of use :P < 1464904243 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: thanks < 1464904252 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there is one major issue with the font... < 1464904259 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⑨ appears incorrectly. < 1464904295 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a be- wait thats infinity, i play dwarf fortress too much < 1464904354 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: ⑨ is not infinity... < 1464904363 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, what is it? < 1464904396 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disappeared in a puff of smoke (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) < 1464904411 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: wait did i nitmove those yet? shit i must[have firgotten < 1464904457 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh... how did he get it to say that? < 1464904475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464904476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464904477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464904478 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ? < 1464904478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464904479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464904488 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, calm down >_> < 1464904499 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to spam hackego < 1464904509 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said gamemanj disappeared in a puff of smoke ping timeout < 1464904510 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Aha. Your chat client doesn't colour the difference between quits and /me. < 1464904524 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I can tell simply by the fact you were fooled by it! < 1464904573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464904587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nœd//Nœd is Norwegian for distress. < 1464904587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring// < 1464904587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brick//Brick goes in brain. The statutory punishment for perpetrators of brainfuck derivatives. < 1464904588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did//did: didn't < 1464904591 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Moon_ [4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138] has quit [Bia] < 1464904597 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my crap ssh app doesnt support the advqnced colors < 1464904603 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1464904604 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1464904607 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a mistake < 1464904610 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1464904614 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ruined my chance < 1464904630 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im on my phone right now < 1464904640 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what brand? < 1464904657 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually: what os/ < 1464904659 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :android samsung galaxy lte < 1464904681 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok: termux -> weechat -> #esoteric < 1464904695 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the esoteric way :P < 1464904780 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had a physical keybiatd on this phone < 1464904798 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termux is a terminal emulator < 1464904801 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464904809 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i could type with less mistakes < 1464904814 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464904963 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifeally it would have a full 104 key keyboard and flip open < 1464905173 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a d key that's exactly where you need it? < 1464905233 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yed < 1464905261 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aarfg < 1464905267 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464905277 0 :nycs!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464905278 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaasqaqqaaaaaaaaaasassaaaaaassaaaaaqaq < 1464905314 0 :Cimmerian888!~textual@cpc77659-ely08-2-0-cust195.5-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1464905771 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464906451 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464906660 0 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mooooooooooooooooon! < 1464906779 0 :Quintopia!?@? NICK :quintopia < 1464907012 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464907160 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464907267 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464907875 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmvnkmtkxysivmcr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464908478 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464909045 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464909140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464909190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, dx/dy = x/y < 1464909193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1464909270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless d = 0 < 1464909291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yeah, but we don't talk about edge cases < 1464909298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this, math!? < 1464909365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a very fast edge detection algorithm. < 1464909380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the first time derivative of a changing position is its velocity and the second is acceleration, what's the third time derivative? < 1464909381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very accurate, except in edge cases. < 1464909392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is that it's the change in acceleration < 1464909400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jerk < 1464909401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jerk is the integral of snap. < 1464909475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was explained in literally the very next sentence < 1464909477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's jerk < 1464909480 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464909486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which shachaf was trying to explain < 1464909490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you the jerk here < 1464909492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap < 1464909504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's what the kids say these days, right?) < 1464909529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And let me guess, snap is the change in jerk? < 1464909540 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Bearing says that occasionally, but nobody else < 1464909568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what's the negative first derivative of a changing position? < 1464909579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, negative derivatives are probably integrals < 1464909582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1464909589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the integral of a changing position? < 1464909596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, you read the spoilers < 1464909598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. have you discovered the wonderful world of fractional derivatives? < 1464909603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have more fun if you didn't read the spoilers < 1464909609 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464909622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OH MY GOD READING THAT MADE BE ORGASM < 1464909646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In the least disturbing way possible) < 1464909661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is still probably pretty disturbing) < 1464909669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What spoilers? < 1464909675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn't read any spoilers yet < 1464909699 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: imagine, Morgan Freeman doing an ASMR video about derivatives. < 1464909709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION faints < 1464909719 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1464909724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION later wakes up to find that his brain is completely depleted of endorphines < 1464909726 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1464909760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Seriously, what are the spoilers? < 1464909763 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: absition < 1464909783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then absity, abseleration, abserk, ... < 1464909833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, after jerk is jounce AKA snap < 1464909848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No spoilers. < 1464909854 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then crackle, pop, lock, drop... < 1464909889 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop, roll... < 1464909918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia stops at pop < 1464910003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Let me guess < 1464910021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There are imaginary derivatives, but they're useless in physics (as far as we know mwahahahahaha) < 1464910105 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's useful in physics. physics is engineering, and engineering is the Essence of Life hth < 1464910170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So are imaginary derivatives a thing? < 1464910181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably read about fractional derivatives first though < 1464910245 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't imagine what a 2D space with diff/int on some axis would even be about < 1464910259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it's a thing < 1464910283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oooh, nice < 1464910308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Of course, 2-time is interesting too. 2,2-spacetime, perhaps? < 1464910320 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jlms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s2-3/2/241.extract "Mellin transforms" I'm already lost < 1464911376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464911470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There should be join messages in IRC. < 1464911479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could figure out what the dual of "Nite" is. < 1464911498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1464911548 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think join messages are good. I'd have to find the dual of a chicken. < 1464911566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you logread my CHICKEN message the other day? < 1464911571 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464911575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :æhoily. < 1464911595 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you manually the chickens? or script? < 1464911623 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan. < 1464911626 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: manually. < 1464911631 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a craft! an art! < 1464911666 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickencraft, the game where you build things from chickens. < 1464911724 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal space poultry < 1464911726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as the great pyramids of chicken itza. < 1464911758 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doublethwacks \oren\ and oerjan. 0.75 and 0.99 shachafs. < 1464911768 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could build an academic cs paper from chickens... < 1464911837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey i made two! < 1464911854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the first might not really count as a pun. < 1464911881 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1464911883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1464911884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 0.99? < 1464911891 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464911905 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't count the first. < 1464911908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What precision do you measure with? < 1464911911 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so hard to get above 1. i think he might consider it like the c of relativity. < 1464911933 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: about that. < 1464911937 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 6' by 12 kg? that doesn't sound possible to do two doublethwacks in a row without inducing severe exhaustion or broken radii in the thwacker < 1464911942 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flails around a gesture of precision < 1464911944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( so what i need is a _really_ tachy pun ) < 1464911958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How many usual suspects would you say there are? < 1464911966 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *THWACKS* oerjan. < 1464911971 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a good one :D < 1464911973 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was only a 0.3 on the tachometer < 1464911980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: darn < 1464911998 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eh? < 1464912058 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals some wibbledy-wobbledy chickens from boily < 1464912074 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the usual suspects < 1464912076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 3.99 usual suspects in #esoteric, but they're usually rounded up. < 1464912111 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but who are they? you, oerjan, and ... who? < 1464912127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never claimed to be among the usual suspects. < 1464912134 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you obviously are < 1464912141 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464912146 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on who's doing the suspecting. < 1464912162 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reverse-roundhose thwacks shachaf for calibration purposes < 1464912166 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone would suspect you if the crime is punning < 1464912225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they say you say "a good pun is its own risk" < 1464912240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do they say about fun puns? < 1464912250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? funpuns < 1464912251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz. < 1464912262 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1464912263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1464912266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hppavilion[1] is also usually suspicious. < 1464912275 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] is also frightened. < 1464912276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I DID NOTHING < 1464912291 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I KNEW IT < 1464912309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I DID NOTHING WHEN DOING SOMETHING WOULD HAVE SAVED MILLIONS OF LIVES < 1464912310 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: can you thwack hppavilion[1] for his failure to accomplish anything < 1464912312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i didn't say i had proof < 1464912315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Punning is a crime? < 1464912330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have 0.9 proof. < 1464912339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE, LITERALLY ANYTHING < 1464912353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT ACTUALLY TOOK MORE EFFORT NOT TO DO SOMETHING THAN TO DO IT, IF I'M BEING HONEST < 1464912355 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION capitally swings his mapole at hppavilion[1] < 1464912358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My object all sublime, / I shall achieve in time -- / To let the punning fit the crime, / The punning fit the crime < 1464912385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF COURSE, IS "DOING NOTHING" JUST DOING THE THING THAT TAKES THE LEAST EFFORT, THEREFOR MEANING THAT THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT IS INVALID? I DON'T KNOW, FRANK. I DON'T KNOW. < 1464912386 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, no, but it does sometimes require apology: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/08/punning-police-say-sorry-egg-theft-appeal-lancashire < 1464912396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that 45% ABV? < 1464912433 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have 60 proof. want some? < 1464912449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, I guess it's 0.45% ABV. < 1464912466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that a quote? < 1464912475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1464912479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your poem < 1464912486 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty close to one < 1464912491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from the Mikado. < 1464912494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://themargins.net/anth/19thc/gilbert.html < 1464912495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1464912508 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore a racist quote < 1464912543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1464912710 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you read that: https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/2786lw/wp_in_a_world_where_puns_are_illegal_one_man < 1464912876 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464913008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read that the mikado is not racist hth < 1464913020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: seems unremarkable to me hth < 1464913043 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as are all old reddit posts, yes < 1464913061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that a japanese crown prince once was disappointed that it wasn't playing when he visited london, because they were afraid he'd be insulted. < 1464913121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan; i read that it is racist hth < 1464913127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly that was just now in this channel < 1464913136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1464913194 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much as i like the mikado, i find it hard not to find it belittling of a culture. dressing white people up like they're japanese is hardly different from blackface is it? < 1464913414 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464913440 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464913591 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, well, like, there's some very significant context with blackface < 1464913628 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't think european colonialism is significant context? < 1464913795 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in... japan? < 1464914052 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a while since i've seen the play, but i get the sense the attitude of the british characters toward the "Japanese" characters was much like their attitude toward all those in nations they colonized < 1464914088 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the character names seem somewhat belittling < 1464914318 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what point in your history of the world do the british colonise japan < 1464914367 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what point in your history of this channel do i claim the british colonise japan < 1464914474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are you confusing with madama butterfly, or something < 1464914562 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i've ever seen madama butterfly. < 1464914570 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good? < 1464914578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno. i've seen neither :P < 1464914592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but afaiu there _are_ no british characters in the mikado. < 1464914712 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw Madama Butterfly at the opera. it's one of the best. < 1464914746 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: clearly it's been too long since i saw it < 1464914767 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f1k14GQmNE < 1464914795 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how to set the spellcheck for OO writer to british spelling? < 1464914805 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`~. < 1464914817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ~.: not found < 1464914905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the names are belittling though. btw i don't think "titipu" is a possible japanese word, is it? < 1464914991 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor is peep-bo? < 1464915104 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the premise is that it's a satire of british culture disguised as a very lazy charicature of japan < 1464915261 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it definitely is that < 1464915307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*caricature < 1464915644 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464915776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1464915782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NGOT. < 1464915881 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IEUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÅAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1464916203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks solving this Towers puzzle was a little too backtracky. < 1464916681 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked Madame Butterfly when I saw it at the four seasons. < 1464916739 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My vocal music teacher got us cheap tickets and insisted that every guy who went wear a tux. < 1464916764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type more < 1464916767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more is /bin/more < 1464916772 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to like 10 operas in high school. < 1464916776 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our interwebs went down for a moment there. < 1464916806 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464916886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o hai. < 1464916887 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by the way, what's srfi? i seem to have < 1464916892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( wearing a penguin suit sounds a bit harsh ) < 1464916895 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you seem to do. < 1464916895 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " he's ordering a weak martini, and the < 1464916906 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bartender refuses to give it? < 1464916907 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh yea that makes much more sense, polish or perl..." < 1464916922 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( a polish martini? with a gherkin floating in it? ) < 1464916964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish or perish < 1464917046 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION weakly thwacks oerjan in stereo, with deliberate movements and closeups [intentional] [unintelligible whispering] [scratching] [brush] [2:42] < 1464917131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a feeling he doesn't get some reference < 1464917179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he should follow /r/outoftheloop < 1464917209 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching ASMR videos. it's relaxing ^^ < 1464917447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/spore//echo 1 > /hackenv/tmp/spline; cat > /hackenv/tmp/spout; lines="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout)" | awk '{print $1}'; echo "$lines lines" < 1464917455 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spore < 1464917457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/spam//line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line+1))" > /hackenv/tmp/spline < 1464917464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spam < 1464917482 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat quotes | spore < 1464917485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ lines < 1464917491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464917503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917506 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" < 1464917518 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. < 1464917518 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop < 1464917559 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, uh, right < 1464917576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/spore//echo 1 > /hackenv/tmp/spline; cat > /hackenv/tmp/spout; lines="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo "$lines lines" < 1464917580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spore < 1464917593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote oerjan | spore < 1464917596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :72 lines < 1464917597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. < 1464917599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1464917600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17) In an alternate universe, ehird has taste < 1464917839 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :18) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste" < 1464917855 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464917856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22) PA ET ANNET UNIVERSET DER DE ENESTE PERSONEN OERJAN: sa jeg kan bare konkludere med at det er feil, eller er verden helt bonkers < 1464917871 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/spore//echo 1 > /hackenv/tmp/spline; cat "${1-/dev/stdin}" > /hackenv/tmp/spout; lines="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo "$lines lines" < 1464917875 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spore < 1464917883 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bonkers? < 1464918039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rainbow < 1464918041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import random \ import re \ w=raw_input() \ p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) \ random.shuffle(p) \ p=list(re.sub('C+','C',''.join(p))) \ i=(c for c in w) \ print ''.join(i.next() if c=='x' else chr(3)+'%02d' % random.randrange(2,15) for c in ['C']+p) < 1464918046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spore bin/rainbow < 1464918047 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 lines < 1464918048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python < 1464918064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :import random < 1464918071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918074 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe this thing is a little too spammy. < 1464918135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464918141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w=raw_input() < 1464918141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w=raw_input() < 1464918142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) < 1464918142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w=raw_input() < 1464918144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random.shuffle(p) < 1464918145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random.shuffle(p) < 1464918168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no problems here < 1464918210 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam prints random lines from a spored thing? < 1464918234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prints them in order, in principle. < 1464918250 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spore bin/wisdom < 1464918251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 lines < 1464918261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie didn't like \ newlines, I believe. < 1464918268 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1464918272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this is for fizzie, who probably likes spam much more. < 1464918299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1464918406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/spam//line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; len="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo -n "$line/$len:"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line+1))" > /hackenv/tmp/spline < 1464918410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spam < 1464918412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1464918427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf quotes | spore < 1464918429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1280 lines < 1464918430 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1280:* Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. < 1464918434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/1280: Usually I'd use Rankine, but the fucking weather doesn't support it. < 1464918463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/spore//echo 1 > /hackenv/tmp/spline; cat "${1-/dev/stdin}" > /hackenv/tmp/spout; spam < 1464918465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spore < 1464918470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf quotes | spore < 1464918472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1280: i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed languages) < 1464918474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918475 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/1280: jesus, yes.. he was human and that is fantastic more than beeing able to speak with fish.. like seaman does < 1464918486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/1280: oerjan: if the answer is no then it might as well be yes < 1464918531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go, one line saved. < 1464918635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two lines. < 1464918715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/bin/bin < 1464918719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1464918723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r bin/bin < 1464918726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464918730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1464918731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what does bin/bin/bin do again? < 1464918733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bin/bin//echo *sigh* < 1464918745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1464918747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1464918750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why'd you delete it? < 1464918755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why was it there? < 1464918766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: bonkers? <-- i think google translate probably failed at that point. < 1464918770 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bin < 1464918770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bin: cannot execute: Is a directory < 1464918771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: To criticize people who make that stupid joke the same way I probably would < 1464918778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gin < 1464918779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gin: not found < 1464918783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's all rather broken norwegian. < 1464918789 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you didn't delete it < 1464918792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`min < 1464918793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: min: not found < 1464918796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tin < 1464918797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tin: not found < 1464918797 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bin/bin/bin/bin/bin/echo hello, world < 1464918798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/bin/bin/bin/bin/echo: No such file or directory < 1464918801 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah, like broken French :D < 1464918802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1464918814 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1464918816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is seriously messing up my terminal tdnh < 1464918819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i doubt GT is responsible for the missing accents...) < 1464918833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What is messing up your terminal? < 1464918837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1464918847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "this"? < 1464918851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464918854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, maybe this thing is a little too spammy. <-- you think? < 1464918865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/1280:* Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. < 1464918870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's awesome < 1464918874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa, that was the testing phase < 1464918880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it's going to be spammy during testing. < 1464918891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i see no problems here <-- heh, genuine race conditions < 1464918905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What, like the Mikado? < 1464918928 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway if people are going to be doing tail -n +n etc. they might as well spore it. < 1464918956 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464918957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/1280: shachaf: wait, _you_ are in northumberland? No. whew we don't have room for more esolangers there. oerjan: Wait, *you* are in Northumberland? no Whew. We don't have room for more esolangers there. < 1464918967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just need a command to merge a bunch of lines together HackEgo-style and wrap at the IRC line length limit. < 1464919138 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464919139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6/1280: it's raining in newcastle, therefore the elliotts are distinct. boily's Newcastle Theorem. < 1464919153 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that `spam tool :D < 1464919196 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually bonkers is probably used a bit in norwegian. < 1464919237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What was the line length limit again? < 1464919242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you computed it once. < 1464919289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spore bin/paste < 1464919290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/12:#!/bin/bash < 1464919294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464919295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/12:if [ "$1" ] && url "$1" 2>/dev/null # Save making a file when it already exists. < 1464919296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464919297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/12:then < 1464919300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1464919306 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464919307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/12: true < 1464919310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type -a paste < 1464919311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste is /hackenv/bin/paste \ paste is /usr/bin/paste < 1464919323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1464919325 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RIDGE CHICKEN < 1464919329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/paste < 1464919345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett oerjan oerjan elliott ais523 ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan shachaf shachaf elliott elliott nitia < 1464919428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Anyway if people are going to be doing tail -n +n etc. they might as well spore it. <-- ideally you'd merge into 350 byte chunks hth < 1464919445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i already said that hth < 1464919499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is 350 the number? < 1464919536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think i just answered your question before getting to it in backscroll hth < 1464919538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/paste | /usr/bin/paste -s -d␤ < 1464919539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bashâif [ "$1" ] && url "$1" 2>/dev/null # Save making a file when it already exists.then¤ trueâelse PASTENUM="$RANDOM"¤â mkdir -p $HACKENV/paste¤ url paste/paste."$PASTENUM"â cat -- "${1--}" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM"fi < 1464919546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: tdnh < 1464919631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/paste | tr '\n' '␤' < 1464919632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bashâif [ "$1" ] && url "$1" 2>/dev/null # Save making a file when it already exists.âthenâ trueâelseâ PASTENUM="$RANDOM"ââ mkdir -p $HACKENV/pasteââ url paste/paste."$PASTENUM"â cat -- "${1--}" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM"âfiâ < 1464919639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: you are not helping < 1464919699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/paste < 1464919701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/paste < 1464919704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47107&oldid=46694 5* 03172.249.47.98 5* (-18) 10Golfier! < 1464919705 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1464919726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm trying to replace newlines in order to create the 350-byte chunks. < 1464919730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hope that helps. < 1464919767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47108&oldid=47107 5* 03172.249.47.98 5* (+13) 10/* brainfuck */ < 1464919796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47109&oldid=47108 5* 03172.249.47.98 5* (+11) 10/* brainfuck */ < 1464919810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By the way, I wonder whether rnooodl goes wrong with certain 4-byte UTF-8 characters that have the same continuation byte repeated three times. < 1464919816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47110&oldid=47109 5* 03172.249.47.98 5* (-13) 10/* brainfuck */ < 1464919904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thausible. restrict it to ascii? < 1464919928 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's no particularly good ASCII character for it. < 1464919942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rnooodl. < 1464919949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And both of the commands I use replace newlines with a character, rather than a string. < 1464919952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that. < 1464919962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why not just leave it as newline < 1464919968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if it's processing characters or bytes. < 1464919972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then how will spam work? < 1464919979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1464919984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1464919987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're suggesting that spam should never work line-at-a-time. < 1464920015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't actually getting that point until now, but yeah, it might not. < 1464920017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking there'd be a separate command that turns a newlined string into a string with 350-byte lines containing newline replacements. < 1464920040 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464920073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess I'll leave it in your capable hands. < 1464920083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just use " \ ", that's what HackEgo does anyway < 1464920094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no intention to code this. < 1464920101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but And both of the commands I use replace newlines with a character, rather than a string. < 1464920109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, it's just a bit of bash < 1464920112 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no real code < 1464920152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like exploiting type system bugs < 1464920187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatev < 1464920195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? whatev < 1464920197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatev? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464920274 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464920429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Um... Christianity? Are you sure you can really math? <-- what's the problem with that? < 1464920446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1464920469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :referring to "The last limit arises from the fact that the crucifixion was considered to have happened on the fourteenth (the eve of the Passover) and the resurrection therefore on the sixteenth." < 1464920587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm just wondering where hppavilion[1] thinks the math error is) < 1464920619 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464920622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is 350 the total length actually printable by HackEgo? < 1464920659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if it's ascii. someone said it's actually different if there are other unicode characters. < 1464920665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but not smaller) < 1464920678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in bytes) < 1464920703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I mean byets. < 1464920706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytes < 1464920707 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :octets < 1464920743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, it's 350 chars but if that's larger than 350 bytes it might get cut off at the actual irc limit. < 1464920762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'll construct this in /msg, I guess. < 1464920769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, probably codepoints. < 1464920806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe... < 1464920848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nN=330\nname = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin"\nwith open(name, "r") as f:\n data = f.read().replace("\\n", " \\\\ ")\nfor i in range(0, len(data), N):\n print data[i:i+N]\n' > bin/distort; chmod +x bin/distort < 1464920861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464920874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` distort quotes | spore < 1464920877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/475: EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ Hmmmmmmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ GKenne < 1464920883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464920884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/475:thR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. \ His body should be given to science. He's alive :P Even so. \ what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ TODO: sex life \ < 1464920943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/sport//distort "${1:-/dev/stdin}" | spore < 1464920947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sport < 1464920968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf quotes | sport < 1464920972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/475: There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] You've just gave me a different result [...] It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur. \ Thanks to nooga for constructive criticism < 1464920975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464920976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/475:, his ideas and being a constant annoyance. --http://theendisnear.no-ip.info/ \ who is guido van rossum you could say he's a man who grew a beard but acquired none of the associated good properties \ Just goes to show, the Beatles are more interesting than green vegetables. \ both of you, < 1464920981 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464920998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sport bin/distort < 1464920999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=330 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = f.read().replace("\n", " \\ ") \ for i in range(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N] \ \ < 1464921025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, double newline. < 1464921034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n $'#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nN=330\nname = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin"\nwith open(name, "r") as f:\n data = f.read().replace("\\n", " \\\\ ")\nfor i in range(0, len(data), N):\n print data[i:i+N]\n' > bin/distort; chmod +x bin/distort < 1464921037 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464921038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sport bin/distort < 1464921040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=330 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = f.read().replace("\n", " \\ ") \ for i in range(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N] \ < 1464921049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you put 330 instead of 350 < 1464921078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to allow for 12345/20000: < 1464921084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I subtracted a few more just in case. < 1464921086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464921088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to jam it up. < 1464921102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I'd appreciate it if you did jam it up to the right value. < 1464921120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/distort//s range xrange < 1464921124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/distort//#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=330 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = f.read().replace("\n", " \\ ") \ for i in xrange(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N] < 1464921158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally that numbering scheme does not work very well with quotes which have their own numbers... < 1464921174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` allquotes | sport < 1464921177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/495:1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) Hmmmmmmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 3) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 4) How much do mainframes cost these days? I mean, they're obsoleteish, right? My notebook's much more powerful? So surely, they're cheap? \ 346) I'm not even going to try and understand what you're proposing. i understand it perfectly. it's completely nuts. \ 1229) i guess norway just isn < 1464921186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464921188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/495:'t cold \ 1235) `addquote boily: thanks for getting quoted saying django btw, now I'm only in 87.5% of the django quotes [...] ah, the inevitable result of mentioning django \ 1030) beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone \ 1036) this new apartment stuff has int < 1464921192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464921193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/495:eresting side effects: i'm now getting physical spam. \ 325) Learn to be Chinese and kill yourself \ 483) I keep asking random people for "friendship " and it's crippling \ 811) omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a < 1464921197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if anyone manages to use more than 2 digits before the slash, they'll probably be kickbanned hth < 1464921217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can fast-forward with echo n > tmp/spline < 1464921263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/speek//echo "$1" > /tmp/hackenv/spline < 1464921266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/speek < 1464921271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/speek//echo "$1" > /tmp/hackenv/spline; spam < 1464921274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/speek < 1464921275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speek 495 < 1464921276 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/speek: line 1: /tmp/hackenv/spline: No such file or directory \ 4/495:warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. \ 78) theory: some amused deity is making the laws of physics up as they go along \ 1064) ah yes, like the parable of jesus feeding the masses with expired jell-o < 1464921279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're splitting in the middle of lines? that could give problems with unicode. < 1464921283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464921284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/495:elliott> they're very unlikely to fuck up Xfce, and it can be made to work basically exactly like gnome two \ 1014) sometimes i wake up and my name has grown more consonants \ 286) I just thought you might have meant the Ramanujan tau and I was WOAH he weilds heavy weapons \ 42) ??? < 1464921291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1464921297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/speek//echo "$1" > /hackenv/tmp/spline; spam < 1464921300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/speek < 1464921301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speek 495 < 1464921303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :495/495:'t exactly NIH. They have their own variant of it. \ 63) My mascot is a tree of broccoli. \ < 1464921306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464921307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :496/495: < 1464921313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: feel free to fix it to not do that twh < 1464921356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No sarcasm or anything there. It would help. < 1464921365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, not that "twh" is ever sarcastic or anything. < 1464921410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wanted to be nice you could split it on a natural word or newline boundary if it happened to be near the end. < 1464921427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, within 20 bytes. < 1464921727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even more than that, really. < 1464921763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, just write out as many lines as can fit without breaking. < 1464921925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a better system, really. < 1464921932 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except if there are really long lines. < 1464921971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speek 131 < 1464921974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :131/495:) most things i hear about 'startup culture' set off the poe's law detector \ 1233) boily: the proc is invoked. before or after the evaluator transfers control to a certain class of anime characters with long hair and loud music \ 907) Actually, just as a guess, J might be worse than APL because it's restri < 1464922008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464922010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :132/495:cted to normal (ascii?) characters, I guess \ 1174) * Sgeo remembers when he believed VRML could never have gravity. Now VRML is dead. (And has gravity) \ 827) The world needs better healthcare, social justice and wealth distribution, but a monads library for clojure surely won't hurt \ 956) it's raining < 1464922044 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep '' wisdom | sport < 1464922058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/344:wisdom/6 random numbers:4 8 15 16 23 42 \ wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯:¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ \ wisdom/quote:Quotes are just elements of the quantum dilapidated bogosphere. See qdb. \ wisdom/heck:Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. \ wisdom/nooga:no. \ wisdom/soup:What soup, Doc? \ wisdom/kitt:Kitt is the singula < 1464922062 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; rgrep '' * | sport < 1464922067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/325:`:` is the prefix to greatness. \ `?:`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ `? `?:Yes, you're very clever \ ^:^ (also notated by ⊕ or ⊻) is the exclusive-or operator; ∧ (also notated by /\ or &) is the and (conjunction) operator; ^ (also notated by ↑ or ** or ⋆) is the power operator. \ ==:Did you know you can define == recursively!? \ < 1464922071 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464922074 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speek 170 < 1464922076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :170/325: tough! \ mathematimu:A mathematimu is a quantum of mathematics. If you observe it, its codepoint can change. \ maths:Maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin. \ mauke:mauke is a Master Archer. Caution! He can shoot your PRIVMSG with creative arrows! \ maybe:Maybe a is Just a or Nothing \ md5:MD5 is a hash < 1464925345 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464926643 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464927714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` allquotes | shuf | sport < 1464927725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/495:143) elliott: i like scsh's mechanism best: it's most transparent and doesn't really serve a very useful feature. \ 577) That was me being *nice*. I could have made the request by word of mouth to my My Little Pony toys and it would count. \ 45) yay fire! * Madelon combusts spontaneously. \ 1099) < < 1464929519 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaa what is this? < 1464929526 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464929729 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464929734 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1464929764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what seems to be the problem? < 1464929832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I scrolled up < 1464930081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1464930300 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol should i be happy i wasnt here? < 1464930331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464930338 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1464930339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/495:metasepia> `addquote \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. \ 984) hm hitler probably did one thing that I < 1464930366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464930369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/495: like too he banned tubas, I guess I am neutral on tubas oh! he killed hitler oh yeah, there we go thanks Fiora he also killed the guy who killed hitler \ 154) How much do mainframes cost these days? I mean, they're obsoleteish, right? My notebook's much more powerful? So surely, the < 1464930380 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat spam < 1464930382 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: spam: No such file or directory < 1464930389 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/spam < 1464930391 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; len="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo -n "$line/$len:"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line+1))" > /hackenv/tmp/spline < 1464930405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: vaguely tempted to make a version of sport that's automatically part of `` < 1464930446 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464930463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then you can implement more < 1464930479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more? < 1464930486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`more < 1464930487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: more [options] file... \ \ Options: \ -d display help instead of ring bell \ -f count logical, rather than screen lines \ -l suppress pause after form feed \ -p suppress scroll, clean screen and disblay text \ -c suppress scroll, display text and clean line ends \ -u suppress underlining < 1464930495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more like < 1464930496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's what spore is named after. < 1464930496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1464930497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam more < 1464930513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Yes. That was the idea. < 1464930517 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1464930701 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good replacement for more is 'sed '${line}p' ' < 1464930759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: well that's why bin/spam uses it? < 1464931527 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464931797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote (not yet complete, but almost finished) a program "har" which is like "tar" but it deal with Hamster archive instead of tape archive. Three commands are same as tar, which as 'c', 't', and 'x' (there are other commands available too). To append, use 'c' with >> shell operator. To concatenate, use cat. < 1464931822 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between a hamster and a tape? < 1464932852 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotation symmetry? < 1464933039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464933059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/495:y're cheap? \ 54) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies \ 1115) hmm… I guess the difference between me and most esolangers is that I don't instantly go and put it into a BF derivative and call it a day \ 1003) I've seen horses jump on tv, they can probably jum < 1464933159 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wait a minute < 1464933164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't seem dead < 1464933174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464933195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/495:p in scotland too \ 170) Oh. Stuff that uses actual physical numbers stemming from science. Bleh *gets bored* \ 734) gah this language is of the devil oklopol: you're meant to use your powers for _good_ \ 190) GCC: -Os -O2 -O3 gives a 4x improvment \ 236) Why do you wan < 1464933721 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Maybe it depend what kind of tape, such as audio tape or video tape. < 1464933740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought tar archived onto a Turing machine tape. < 1464933780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to write your Turing machine code securely. < 1464933786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you might get a tapeworm. < 1464933955 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464934193 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How my "har" program is available at http://zzo38computer.org/prog/har.c it is 2929 bytes long. < 1464934293 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is much simpler than tar. < 1464934427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're serving it with a content-type my browser doesn't recognize, so it not convenient to look at it. < 1464934455 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar is by definition a legacy format < 1464934462 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add view-source: to the front to view in the browser, or use the command: curl 'http://zzo38computer.org/prog/har.c' | less < 1464936467 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464936801 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1464936808 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok its alive < 1464936857 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464937304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1464937321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy who does Crash Course seems to be the guy who wrote The Fault in Our Stars < 1464937322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1464937585 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464937585 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464938077 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1464938083 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im alivw < 1464938085 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodie < 1464938132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he was almost alive, but unfortunately slightly off key" < 1464938137 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464938271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "We did what we thought was the best and most merciful thing to do." < 1464938308 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`getconf LONG_BIT < 1464938319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kill moon__ < 1464938323 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOULD WORK IF I T- caps < 1464938341 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 < 1464938341 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill: failed to parse argument: 'moon__' < 1464938345 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wana know the bitwidth >_< < 1464938348 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1464938381 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a process, i am a lifeform < 1464938386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bearing may be the best youtube channel I have ever encountered < 1464938390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just for the politics < 1464938393 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless we are in the matrix... < 1464938401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But because the sprites he uses are awesome < 1464938403 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bad joke* < 1464938439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Technically, a life form is still a process (or, well, a process hierarchy), and someone in the matrix is still a lifeform < 1464938447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Have you even /seen/ The Matrix? < 1464938461 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope! Xp < 1464938479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Then you are not qualified to joke about it. < 1464938487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: May I see your license and registration? < 1464938522 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "!!" < 1464938525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"!!" < 1464938529 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damnit < 1464938535 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo !! < 1464938535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!! < 1464938540 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1464938543 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldve returned the ;ast cpmmand < 1464938548 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo !! < 1464938550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!! < 1464938557 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1464938567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: How would it do that? < 1464938577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I thought I was being spammy. < 1464938578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `!!` < 1464938579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`!!` < 1464938584 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo `!!` < 1464938586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: !!: command not found < 1464938589 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im confuzzled < 1464938591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1464938597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you leave it alone? What you're trying to do won't work. < 1464938604 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "!!" > foo.sh shpuld give the last command in a script.. < 1464938604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can find that out in /msg. < 1464938658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK < 1464938662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a "Dank Meme"? < 1464938696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn dank < 1464938698 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "dank" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1464938698 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :dank < 1464938699 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: unpleasantly cool and humid; "a clammy handshake"; < 1464938701 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "clammy weather"; "a dank cellar"; "dank rain forests" < 1464938703 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {clammy}, {dank}] < 1464938704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1464938741 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sudo dd if=/dev/mem | cat | strings < 1464938744 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: sudo: command not found < 1464938751 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn )= < 1464938770 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont hurt me < 1464938796 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dd if=/dev/mem | cat | strings < 1464938798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd: opening `/dev/mem': Permission denied < 1464938804 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daww < 1464938807 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...yeah. I figured that this dank has nothing to do with that dank. < 1464938826 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its used in the terms of 'old' now dont kill me < 1464938848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Given that patterns of human behavior and copyable activities tend to not be describable in terms of temperature and humidity < 1464938849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do your non-modifying experiments in /msg and then, when they work, you can demonstrate them to people in the channel. < 1464938887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dank" is marijuana slang for "good" < 1464938902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can find that out using the Google. < 1464938927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464938949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: See, but I don't particularly want to be associated with marijuana slang by what is pretty much the biggest company on the internet < 1464938972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464938985 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If They Are the 99%, then what are we? < 1464938987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464939003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric has 100 people at a time < 1464939011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 7.3 billion people on earth... < 1464939011 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1464939012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464939021 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh gof < 1464939024 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiny number alert < 1464939044 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sound the alarms! < 1464939081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is the 99%? < 1464939084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1464939101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are the 1.3698630136986302e-10%‽ < 1464939118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The people not in the 1% duh < 1464939122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/duh/hth/ < 1464939135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1% being the richfolks < 1464939148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464939152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I look at it < 1464939165 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come hackego has no lsof < 1464939169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the channel has 100 occupants (which it, at this exact moment, does) < 1464939184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means that- statistically- 1 person on this channel is hyperrich < 1464939197 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me < 1464939218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Well duh; it can't be you because there's only room for one hyperrich person and that person is fungot. < 1464939218 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: when this load is done i think i'll run freebsd on an ultra, it refused to install the program correctly the first time < 1464939219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth. < 1464939227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's copumpkin for sure. < 1464939251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I always read fungot expecting fim to make sense and trying to figure out what fe means, but fe never does...) < 1464939251 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the speed new and faster hardware is developed is just too ugly < 1464939276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that almost made sense, AND is accurate < 1464939441 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464939466 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys i think i found a zombie maker: ( command & ) (i cant trust all soruces tho) < 1464940192 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I killed the chat < 1464940200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS < 1464940213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464940218 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious adjectival cackling overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464940235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "lazy expert in future computation" mean? < 1464940254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/emeritus/zombie/' wisdom/oerjan < 1464940267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, good, not retired. < 1464940272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to do something like that. < 1464940284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1464940312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it means i might eventually get around to it if needed hth < 1464940315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1464940323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled again < 1464940403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk < 1464940729 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I regret executing < 1464940733 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes "$(seq 232 255;seq 254 -1 233)" | while read i; do printf "\x1b[48;5;${i}m\n"; sleep .01; done < 1464940748 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It froze haxego < 1464940759 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm < 1464940761 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hea alive < 1464940770 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie on? < 1464940791 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because on his/her end, it must be really colorful < 1464940869 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` yes "$(seq 232 255;seq 254 -1 233)" | while read i; do printf "\x1b[48;5;${i}m\n"; sleep .01; done < 1464940992 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego < 1464940995 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls respond < 1464941102 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; dont murder me shachaf < 1464941115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you stopped abusing the bot, though? < 1464941126 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will >-> < 1464941145 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qsvhjspjjqrszgby QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464941352 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464941451 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1464941453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ sysconfval \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ tmp334234 \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1464941460 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464941470 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps hackego's cpu < 1464941549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits tmp334234 < 1464941570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: why would you expect fizzie to see the output of that < 1464941571 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ < 1464941580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits sysconfval < 1464941586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ moon__ < 1464941588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm tmp334234 sysconfval < 1464941589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `tmp334234 sysconfval': No such file or directory < 1464941594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm tmp334234 sysconfval < 1464941597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464941610 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fizzie has admin access to hackego < 1464941624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you just stopped doing all those things? < 1464941653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION brings up an extra lawn chair for shachaf  < 1464941708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/6576966b7d24 doesn't show the final space. < 1464941737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This suggests that if you wrote a Whitespace program in HackEgo, it wouldn't show up in the commit log. < 1464941748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could always look itup in the other log, I guess. < 1464941929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 8180 < 1464941938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file wisdom/#esoteric \ Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. \ 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file wisdom/#esoteric.rej < 1464941962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm $(lastfiles) < 1464941973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464942009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1464942093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway you seem like the opposite of a grouch to me. < 1464942136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do? < 1464942162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could have fooled me. < 1464942181 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example you're pretty welcoming in this channel. < 1464942186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464942187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas I seem to be just the opposite. < 1464942189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464942233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log 8180 < 1464942237 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464942241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1464942284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/#esoteric//s/exists/doesn't exist/ < 1464942288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464942300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure that it's appropriate. < 1464942343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464942346 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious adjectival cackling overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464942357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "Lately" mean only in the evening and early morning? < 1464942399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well when else am i awake < 1464942412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At night. < 1464942418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess that's also covered. < 1464942418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1464942461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not yet recall it popping up in my dreams. < 1464942589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just move to Norway. < 1464942594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear the pizza is good. < 1464942716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that the tax rate isn't much higher than California? Sometimes people talk about how much higher it is or something. < 1464942754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe somewhat higher. < 1464942801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but there's a wealth tax. < 1464942810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a good place for 1%ers like hppavilion[1]. < 1464943233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a disputed tax. the current government has got it reduced a bit. < 1464943244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ideally want to abolish it. < 1464943424 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tax? < 1464943458 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tax. < 1464943504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.85% of net wealth if i'm reading correctly. < 1464943539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wealth above 1 200 000 kr < 1464943647 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1464943654 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the leftish parties like it because it's about the only direct tax that actually gets anything from rich people. < 1464943672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we currently have a right wing government. < 1464943713 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no income tax? or just full of loopholes < 1464943721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :full of loopholes < 1464943774 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1464943807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a tax loophole myself this year. It was great. < 1464943859 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to hire a loopholer^Waccountant < 1464943895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sorts of loopholes do you use? < 1464943902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use an accountant, though maybe I should've. < 1464944099 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I want to figure out < 1464944120 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :before the tax deductions I get for having spent money on university run out < 1464944304 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlxooruqyvzhcrvm QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464944325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're in Canada, right? < 1464944631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, RRSP/TFSA looks way better than IRA/401k. < 1464944636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't even need loopholes. < 1464944765 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url mk < 1464944769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/mk < 1464944792 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/mk < 1464944797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/mk < 1464945055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1464945160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464945894 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Airterm for android is really handy < 1464946115 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a picture which has NTSC data for a colour picture but it is grayscale instead because it is the raw data? < 1464946266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who, me? < 1464946324 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/echo-p < 1464946327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/echo-p < 1464946568 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that useful for < 1464946666 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464946666 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1464946666 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1464946684 0 :zgrep_!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrdyjoxelldjiyzw JOIN :#esoteric < 1464946709 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464946746 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464946748 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464946748 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464946748 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464946748 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464946800 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464946838 0 :zgrep_!?@? NICK :zgrep < 1464946985 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464947360 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Nosomebodies14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47111&oldid=47075 5* 03Nosomebodies 5* (+123) 10 < 1464947563 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nzqtrvpcdhdxuyus JOIN :#esoteric < 1464948401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464948770 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464949252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464950130 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: The intended use is for ... > $(echo-p "$foo") to be able to redirect to "$foo" even if it contains slashes, by making any necessary directories transparently. < 1464950307 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464950309 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464950316 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zygohistomorphic prepromorphisms < 1464950332 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarven Hold \ Land \ Dwarven Hold enters the battlefield tapped. \ You may choose not to untap Dwarven Hold during your untap step. \ At the beginning of your upkeep, if Dwarven Hold is tapped, put a storage counter on it. \ {T}, Remove any number of storage counters from Dwarven Hold: Add {R} to your mana pool for each storage counter removed thi < 1464950333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A zygohistomorphic prepromorphism is used when you really need both semi-mutual recursion and history and to repeatedly apply a natural transformation as you get deeper into the functor. < 1464950334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me//Me is a proud member of the tEaM. < 1464950401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a strange card (it's from Fallen Empires). < 1464951533 0 :Effilry!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464951592 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464951727 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nzqtrvpcdhdxuyus QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464951794 0 :Elronnd\StD!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464951879 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1464951917 0 :hkgit03!5b402444@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.64.36.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464951949 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464951963 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464951984 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464952054 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1464952314 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1464952385 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmidflcnrgwhruye JOIN :#esoteric < 1464952537 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1464952573 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464952573 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464953104 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464953193 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464953618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464953637 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1464953870 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464954102 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464954371 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464954584 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464954991 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464956252 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RING CHICKEN < 1464958979 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does boily has a "random quit message" script or something? < 1464958983 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With an affection for chicken? < 1464960502 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464960680 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464960977 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464961341 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464961686 0 :Effilry!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1464962099 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464963688 0 :hkgit03!5b402444@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.91.64.36.68 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1464964035 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-250-231.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464964389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Efghij14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47113&oldid=47012 5* 03Timwi 5* (+136) 10 < 1464964583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nondeterministic Super Mario Bros.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47114 5* 03B jonas 5* (+3658) 10Created page with "'''Nondeterministic Super Mario Bros.''' is the decision problem that takes a custom world map and levels of the NES ''Super Mario Bros.'' game as its input, and decides wheth..." < 1464965149 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464965587 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464965700 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xhvxvsirmhojkpzl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464966099 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464966113 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1464966649 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj Sometimes the chicken is appropriate to surrounding context. I've been assuming it's all manual. < 1464966649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464966953 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464966954 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj You may be interested in the following chicken statistics gathered from my logs: http://sprunge.us/FIcQ < 1464966955 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464966981 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj As you can see, the vast majority of chickens are as unique as a SNOWFLAKE CHICKEN. < 1464966982 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464967580 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464968059 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the opposite of falling in love in english? < 1464968076 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :climbing out of love? < 1464968083 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :falling out of love < 1464968083 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfalling in love? < 1464968093 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww the most boring way < 1464968122 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no control...gravity always decides < 1464968343 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean one ends up in a state even lower than love? < 1464969065 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second law of something-dynamics. < 1464969442 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.egillantonsson.com/ related < 1464969516 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :crappy pic tho < 1464969537 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464969638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Timwi 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:NUSSPLI (Ackermann function).jpg10]]": The NUSSPLI function in [[efghij]]. < 1464969687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Timwi 5* 10moved [[02File:NUSSPLI (Ackermann function).jpg10]] to [[File:Efghij — NUSSPLI function.jpg]] < 1464969783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47118&oldid=47011 5* 03Timwi 5* (+496) 10 < 1464970866 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 < 1464971144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47119&oldid=47118 5* 03Timwi 5* (+1760) 10Restructure < 1464971160 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47120&oldid=47119 5* 03Timwi 5* (+15) 10 < 1464971612 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464971770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47121&oldid=47120 5* 03Timwi 5* (+1623) 10/* Example: NUSSPLI (Ackermann function) */ Expand full explanation < 1464972060 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ip-109-205-53-242.beyonddatacenter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464972217 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1464972575 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464972661 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464972772 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1464972862 0 :s1nceri7y!~vaize@176.60.43.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464972884 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot < 1464973104 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464973404 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464974530 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ip-109-205-53-242.beyonddatacenter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464974592 0 :s1nceri7y!~vaize@176.60.43.66 QUIT :Quit: bye. < 1464974775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464975369 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464975478 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464976144 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464976809 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464976900 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464977291 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464978111 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464978283 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464978362 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you type a symbol over and over it doesnt look valid anymore < 1464978421 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is => a valid C++ operator? im not sure anymore < 1464978450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look familiar < 1464978461 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're thinking of the downto operator --> < 1464978470 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant >= < 1464978497 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should be => < 1464978510 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? it's "greater than or equal" < 1464978528 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you want mirror images, I'd rather have =< than => < 1464978587 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you want an assignment operator corresponding to < y is the same as x = y < 1464978963 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!>< is the not less or greater operator < 1464979000 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464979172 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also >>= is a great C++ operator < 1464979205 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls seeing someone overloading >>= to do binding in C++ somewhere < 1464980393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464980428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6/495:t to have sex in everything? I don't want. \ 790) the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september \ 80) fungot!*@* added to ignore list. AnMaster: i'd find that a bit annoying to wait for an ack. \ 832) Do physici < 1464980446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464980447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7/495:sts have half-life crises? \ 670) "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith so that you can legally own lock < 1464980614 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464980737 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464980778 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what's the difference between <> and >< ? < 1464980836 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.> means you're confused, >.< means you're annoyed < 1464980849 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1464980849 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> is a diamond so it's much more expensive than the cheap >< < 1464980999 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464981281 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> has precedent in Pascal, IIRC < 1464981362 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm now wondering what a ░▒▓█▓▒░ chicken is < 1464981380 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it an evil-eye'd chicken, or is there a deeper meaning? < 1464981432 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: So that's why BASICs are now extinct creatures! < 1464981444 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or at least an endangered species...) < 1464981471 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VB, VBA, VBS, ... :p < 1464981486 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. who uses VBA and VBS < 1464981494 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. VB has been mutated into something very-not-BASIC < 1464981515 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtual bullshit? < 1464981524 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and besides, it's a Microsoft product, of course it has diamonds) < 1464981531 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, msoffice uses vba < 1464981538 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...just expect the diamonds to be made out of glass...) < 1464981555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :window glass, hmm? < 1464981566 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464981592 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program to make NTSC decoding and tried to use with the picture http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5HF7Iwp74Lk/VS6s1IYf7eI/AAAAAAAAAJY/k1mIBF4aAUA/s1600/1k07_cga_composite_solid_colors_1.png but the colours are wrong do you know why? I also tried https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/CGA_CompVsRGB_640.png and still it is wrong. < 1464981593 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: No, the really poor-quality stuff < 1464981700 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You'll probably want to try actually using a recorded NTSC signal < 1464981752 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464981760 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't have any. < 1464981865 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never The Same Color < 1464981890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfectly Accurate Label < 1464981910 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464981916 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it is hardly even close, even if I tamper with the phase and finetune settings. < 1464982034 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but how are you exactly decoding from a picture? < 1464982151 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It expects a grayscale picture as input (it pays attention only to the red channel) < 1464982659 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried using ImageMagick's HS_VERTICAL pattern as input and set it to advance the phase on each scan line, and the yellow and cyan colours are missing. < 1464982791 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the command: convert -size 80x160 pattern:hs_vertical png:- | pngff | ff-solar rgb 0 | ff-enlarge 4 1 | ff-dntsc t=32 y=32 i=32 q=32 l=0 s=5 p=.5 | ffpng > /var/www/img_1A/test1.png This is the output: http://zzo38computer.org/img_1A/test1.png < 1464983069 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have reg, green and blue... < 1464983072 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*red < 1464983115 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at it, you have Cyan, it's just dark and desaturated. < 1464983136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also have yellow, but it's also dark and desaturated. < 1464983264 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that due to the pattern I am using as input? I will try a different input < 1464983320 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: try lenna < 1464983327 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the baboon < 1464983363 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a NTSC version of those pictures? < 1464983390 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no\ < 1464983419 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464983511 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried using a different pattern (VERTICAL 2 with enlarging) and then when I zoomed I found that yes I do have yellow and cyan but it is dark and desaturated. Is NTSC supposed to work like that? < 1464983714 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464984261 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not an NTSC expert. Again, what's really needed is a recorded signal... < 1464984268 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, how to get one, IDK. < 1464984291 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, all that's needed is one or two frames at 18-or-so Mhz. < 1464984315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming I'm not completely wrong. < 1464984328 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trouble is, you can't exactly use a sound card to capture that. < 1464984335 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464984384 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you'd need a beefier ADC. Like an SDR or something. < 1464984398 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an FPGA... < 1464984402 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1464984413 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say SDR because you could just get one. < 1464984423 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1464984429 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it captures fast enough... < 1464984430 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait! < 1464984431 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you'd probably wanna skip the radio frontend if you're doing composite in. < 1464984431 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! < 1464984436 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know where you could get a signal < 1464984440 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully < 1464984449 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a matter of where the URL was... < 1464984464 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ < 1464984468 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would. At least, some SDRs are perfectly capable of handling a 6 MHz signal. < 1464984491 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with that is, analog NTSC is not broadcast in the Netherlands. :) < 1464984521 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat, though. < 1464984524 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1464984532 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't go above 29Mhz < 1464984776 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1464984778 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a list of them < 1464984788 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are any in the right range... < 1464984803 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically 55.25 < 1464984805 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhz < 1464984835 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:745c:ae0a:9988:31b JOIN :#esoteric < 1464984849 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's like as if they're taking special care not to hit those ranges < 1464985180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1464985222 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464985231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1464985292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l bin/\' < 1464985295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 50000000 0 5 Dec 9 04:12 bin/' -> quote < 1464985297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1464985300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/' < 1464985314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett int-e < 1464985398 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/1 \` "$@" | sport < 1464985400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1464985406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/1//\` "$@" | sport < 1464985411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/1 < 1464985431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 for i in {1..1000}; do echo $i; done < 1464985434 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/18:1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 6 \ 7 \ 8 \ 9 \ 10 \ 11 \ 12 \ 13 \ 14 \ 15 \ 16 \ 17 \ 18 \ 19 \ 20 \ 21 \ 22 \ 23 \ 24 \ 25 \ 26 \ 27 \ 28 \ 29 \ 30 \ 31 \ 32 \ 33 \ 34 \ 35 \ 36 \ 37 \ 38 \ 39 \ 40 \ 41 \ 42 \ 43 \ 44 \ 45 \ 46 \ 47 \ 48 \ 49 \ 50 \ 51 \ 52 \ 53 \ 54 \ 55 \ 56 \ 57 \ 58 \ 59 \ 60 \ 61 \ 62 \ 63 \ 64 \ 65 \ 66 \ 67 \ 68 \ < 1464985437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464985438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/18: 69 \ 70 \ 71 \ 72 \ 73 \ 74 \ 75 \ 76 \ 77 \ 78 \ 79 \ 80 \ 81 \ 82 \ 83 \ 84 \ 85 \ 86 \ 87 \ 88 \ 89 \ 90 \ 91 \ 92 \ 93 \ 94 \ 95 \ 96 \ 97 \ 98 \ 99 \ 100 \ 101 \ 102 \ 103 \ 104 \ 105 \ 106 \ 107 \ 108 \ 109 \ 110 \ 11111111 \ 112 \ 113 \ 114 \ 115 \ 116 \ 117 \ 118 \ 119 \ 120 \ 121 \ 122 \ 123 \ 124 \ 125 \ 126 \ 127 \ 1 < 1464985462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: foiled by the nooodl < 1464985477 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the ones ? < 1464985523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about them? < 1464985540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speek 12 < 1464985542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12/18: \ 622 \ 623 \ 624 \ 625 \ 626 \ 627 \ 628 \ 629 \ 630 \ 631 \ 632 \ 633 \ 634 \ 635 \ 636 \ 637 \ 638 \ 639 \ 640 \ 641 \ 642 \ 643 \ 644 \ 645 \ 646 \ 647 \ 648 \ 649 \ 650 \ 651 \ 652 \ 653 \ 654 \ 655 \ 656 \ 657 \ 658 \ 659 \ 660 \ 661 \ 662 \ 663 \ 664 \ 665 \ 66666 \ 667 \ 668 \ 669 \ 670 \ 671 \ 672 \ 673 \ 674 \ 675 \ 6 < 1464985554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speek 15 < 1464985555 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15/18:786 \ 787 \ 788 \ 789 \ 790 \ 791 \ 792 \ 793 \ 794 \ 795 \ 796 \ 797 \ 798 \ 799 \ 800 \ 801 \ 802 \ 803 \ 804 \ 805 \ 806 \ 807 \ 808 \ 809 \ 810 \ 811 \ 812 \ 813 \ 814 \ 815 \ 816 \ 817 \ 818 \ 819 \ 820 \ 821 \ 822 \ 823 \ 824 \ 825 \ 826 \ 827 \ 828 \ 829 \ 830 \ 831 \ 832 \ 833 \ 834 \ 835 \ 836 \ 837 \ 838 \ 839 \ 840 \ < 1464985563 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speek 16 < 1464985564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16/18:841 \ 842 \ 843 \ 844 \ 845 \ 846 \ 847 \ 848 \ 849 \ 850 \ 851 \ 852 \ 853 \ 854 \ 855 \ 856 \ 857 \ 858 \ 859 \ 860 \ 861 \ 862 \ 863 \ 864 \ 865 \ 866 \ 867 \ 868 \ 869 \ 870 \ 871 \ 872 \ 873 \ 874 \ 875 \ 876 \ 877 \ 878 \ 879 \ 880 \ 881 \ 882 \ 883 \ 884 \ 885 \ 886 \ 887 \ 888888 \ 889 \ 890 \ 891 \ 892 \ 893 \ 894 \ 895 < 1464985653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might make sense to upgrade ` to do it automatically. < 1464985657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or might not. < 1464985807 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cat < 1464985808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/cat < 1464985811 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which spam < 1464985813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/spam < 1464985820 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1464985821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1464985826 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/spam < 1464985827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spam < 1464985828 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/ < 1464985834 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ bla < 1464985840 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1464985847 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1464985848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1464985894 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which rnooodl < 1464985895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/rnooodl < 1464985903 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1464985904 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([^wW\W])\1\1/"@{[$1 x(3+rand 7)]}"/ge' < 1464985917 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rnooodl < 1464985921 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rnooodl test < 1464985936 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rnooodl <<< test < 1464985950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464985962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464985975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464986109 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:745c:ae0a:9988:31b QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464986170 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464986205 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`aaaaaaaaa < 1464986215 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464986237 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464986257 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1464986264 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`aaaaaaaaa How useful!!!!1 < 1464986266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaa aaaaaa!!!!4 < 1464986999 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464987028 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1464987126 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464987692 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464988057 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1464988284 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how comes the emoji? < 1464988565 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-250-231.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464989149 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is an *amazing* nooodlification. < 1464989442 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1464989464 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1464989687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: what's a "fancy finite automata fact" < 1464989837 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :{w | w contains an equal number of occurrences of the substrings 01 and 10} is regular! < 1464989865 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a nice little "wait, what?" moment. < 1464989870 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 010 counted twice? < 1464989875 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Finite automata run your computer. < 1464989930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: maybe they run your computer hth < 1464989940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: Is the alphabet of size 2 or arbitrary? < 1464989950 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they run most computers < 1464989956 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Σ = {0, 1}. < 1464989977 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, admittedly although it's finite, the amount of possibilities is huge... < 1464989981 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the dfa is pretty easy < 1464989984 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that does not change that it is a finite automata. < 1464990031 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Once you think about what its strings look like, the DFA/regex writes itself < 1464990055 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :But from its description, it sounds non-regular, because it's "counting". < 1464990065 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cute < 1464990643 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cje7c52W0AAPxiY.jpg < 1464990814 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464990913 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464991527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the oberth effect is creepy space voodoo < 1464991544 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1464991546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 2 c Water \ 2 tb Olives \ 1 ts Cornstarch \ 2 ea Eggs; beaten \ 1/2 c Milk \ 1 1/2 ts Earmean Cheese \ 1/4 ts Salt \ 1/4 ts Tumeric wafers, dried \ - blueberry sauce \ 1/2 c Freshly ground pepper seeds \ -- in seasoning \ Milk \ 8 oz Semisweet chocolate \ \ The sauce and left carefully with flour and stir in the bay leaf. Add ric < 1464991575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does " ea " mean there? < 1464991594 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464991605 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look as bad as some of the recipes by the way < 1464991607 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each < 1464991617 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464991623 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yeah, but what does that mean in this context? < 1464991634 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464991656 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it foesnt make[srnse ij this context < 1464991661 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1464991670 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464991673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vulshok Morningstar \ 2 \ Artifact -- Equipment \ Equipped creature gets +2/+2. \ Equip {2} ({2}: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.) \ DST-C, 9ED-U, DDI-U < 1464991680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card untap\b < 1464991682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jace Beleren Avatar \ Vanguard \ 0/0 \ {0}: Choose a player. That player reveals his or her hand. \ {0}: Choose a player. That player reveals his or her library. Choose any number of cards from it. That player puts those cards into his or her hand. \ {0}: Choose a player. Untap all permanents that player controls. \ {0}: Choose a permanent, spell, < 1464991844 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464992847 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1464992895 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464992931 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 PART #esoteric : < 1464993122 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464994641 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hello world in libgccjit takes .3s to run :( < 1464994666 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a thing? < 1464994675 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464994691 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-6.1.0/jit/intro/tutorial01.html < 1464994913 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464994997 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464995172 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 PART #esoteric : < 1464995401 0 :moon__!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464995404 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464995447 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464995453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tisc//TISC is "The instruction set computers", which refers to computers with instruction sets. < 1464995658 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"COUNTERFEIT CHICKEN" < 1464995658 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464995807 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. I will sue you! I don't know when nor how, but I will! < 1464996035 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464996152 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(call/cc (lambda (x) (call/cc (lambda (y) (x y))))) < 1464996221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome rntz < 1464996223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1464996257 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the purpose of that? :P < 1464996269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been welcomed here before? < 1464996371 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so, with rainbow or without? < 1464996560 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iono < 1464996567 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? what do you think about roast beef? < 1464996571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether lem is a better primitive than callCC. < 1464996589 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um, what lem? < 1464996618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lem < 1464996622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanisław Lem was a Polish logician who discovered the law of excluded middle. < 1464996624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lem < 1464996625 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cont r (Either (a -> Cont r v) a) < 1464996647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: How do you express (callCC callCC) in Haskell? < 1464996671 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's brain suddenly hurts... < 1464996675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: Oh, based on what you said in the other channel you're probably thinking the same thing. < 1464996759 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other channels? < 1464996765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464996767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464996806 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lem is definitely not a better primitive than call/cc < 1464996812 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let/cc might be better than call/cc < 1464996819 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the same thing as if lem is a better primitive than callCC, and made up the implementation; you can use both < 1464996819 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's basically a matter of style < 1464996822 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, which one is let/cc? < 1464996827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that just the macro with the built-in binder? < 1464996829 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464996831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it the one that lets you do recursion? < 1464996839 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let/cc x in e = call/cc (lambda x. e) < 1464996876 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan hellørjan. can I grow hot peppers on your northern lawn? < 1464996876 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464996878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let letCC = callCC (return . fix) < 1464996880 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1464996898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer that letCC hth < 1464996905 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not < 1464996910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should be called getCC. < 1464996925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let getCC = callCC (return . fix) < 1464996926 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1464997082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monochrom calls it setjmp in https://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/cont-monad.xhtml < 1464997171 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also setjmp command in C < 1464997221 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's presumably the origin of the name < 1464997239 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1464997243 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I suspect this "setjmp" is a little more powerful < 1464997257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you think the Either in lem is nice? < 1464997311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`runCont` id) $ do { e <- lem; case e of Left k -> k 5; Right x -> return x } < 1464997315 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1464997386 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did also did it like that. < 1464997423 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you mean, as opposed to just bare (call/cc call/cc)? yes < 1464997432 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: or do you mean, as opposed to having call/cc as a primitive? < 1464997441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to having call/cc as a primitive. < 1464997444 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. no. < 1464997448 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1464997463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wondered whether dne is a better primitive. < 1464997490 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw, the way I found the scheme puzzle was by playing around with an unusual formulation of classical logic you might like: http://www.rntz.net/files/adjoint-classical-constructive.pdf < 1464997513 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464997540 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's like 2 pages long, I haven't actually finished/figured out the "adjoint" part of it) < 1464997542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adjoint logic? Sounds a bit wholesome. < 1464997588 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wholesome? < 1464997609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this logic is very classical. < 1464997633 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyes, that is the point < 1464997648 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1464997851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that that symmetry is pretty nice. < 1464997875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a dual version with no introduction rules? < 1464997889 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1464997902 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect so. < 1464997908 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd have to go work it out < 1464997930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is there some version of this for linear logic? < 1464997950 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, that I definitely don't know < 1464997971 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are one-sided presentations of classical linear logic < 1464997979 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me suspect there might be something like this < 1464998029 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the classical-linear equivalent of contradiction (#) is < 1464998056 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hell, there might even be more than one, linear logic is strange) < 1464998171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there are two. < 1464998193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is confusing because in ASCII you often write par as #. < 1464998219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, in linear logic, LEM is true with par. < 1464998317 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet if I learned enough about Chu spaces I would know. < 1464998322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know about Chu spaces? < 1464998329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chu space < 1464998331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rntz < 1464998344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Chu space is just a matrix. Taneb invented them, then Chu stole his invention. < 1464998344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464998472 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, how do you typeset a par-symbol (upside-down ampersand) in latex anyways < 1464998505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A⅋B < 1464998560 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a font that can support it then you can do it. < 1464998576 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464998704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn rntz is a classically-trained logician known for his constructive criticism. < 1464998711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rntz': rntz is a classically-trained logician known for his constructive criticism. < 1464998725 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1464998736 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stmaryrd has \binampersand and \bindnasrepma, which will do < 1464998761 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464998775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1464998778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17/18: \ 896 \ 897 \ 898 \ 899 \ 900 \ 901 \ 902 \ 903 \ 904 \ 905 \ 906 \ 907 \ 908 \ 909 \ 910 \ 911 \ 912 \ 913 \ 914 \ 915 \ 916 \ 917 \ 918 \ 919 \ 920 \ 921 \ 922 \ 923 \ 924 \ 925 \ 926 \ 927 \ 928 \ 929 \ 930 \ 931 \ 932 \ 933 \ 934 \ 935 \ 936 \ 937 \ 938 \ 939 \ 940 \ 941 \ 942 \ 943 \ 944 \ 945 \ 946 \ 947 \ 948 \ 949 \ 950 < 1464998809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite pleased with spore/spam/spout/spline/sport/speek < 1464998869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464998919 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spore < 1464998931 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1464998937 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what I was expecting < 1464998950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464998952 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntziao < 1464998958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sport bin/distort < 1464998962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=330 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = f.read().replace("\n", " \\ ") \ for i in xrange(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N] \ < 1464998969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it fits on one line. < 1464998984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: Can you give me a good intuition for par? < 1464999006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously you're a Chu space h8r. But somethign in terms of threads or parallel universes or something would be good too. < 1464999076 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A par B) means you get A and B but their proofs can't interact with one another < 1464999088 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, opposite of that < 1464999100 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in (A tensor B) their proofs can't interact, but *you* can use them together < 1464999109 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in (A par B) their proofs can interact, so *you* can't use them together < 1464999161 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why (A par not A) works: the "not A" communicates with the "A" - you can think of it as a reified communication channel < 1464999178 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one end of the channel obeys "A", the other obeys "not A" < 1464999363 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464999398 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to wonder if setting all my fonts to Biolinum was a good idea < 1464999474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover. it is a good idea, but Liberation is better hth < 1464999495 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: \usepackage{cmll} \parr says http://detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html < 1464999505 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Man, *drawing* an upside-down ampersand was *really hard*.) < 1464999568 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: convince yourself the sheet is upside-down and draw with your left hand (assuming you're right-handed, or right hand if left-handed) < 1464999587 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, thanks < 1464999598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kelloen__. long time no see. < 1464999603 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks rather better than stmaryrd, actually! < 1464999873 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464999933 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465000332 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465001066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1465001215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1465001215 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 11h 41m 32s ago: I've lost context as to what you said... < 1465001215 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 11h 40m 51s ago: Is it irony when you fake a quit, and then you get a standard scheduled network disconnection shortly after? < 1465001215 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 11h 40m 34s ago: Because that's what happened to me ^.^; < 1465001215 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 1h 12m 18s ago: hellørjan. can I grow hot peppers on your northern lawn? < 1465001232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah should have checked the number. < 1465001275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj so have i hth < 1465001275 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1465001298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did that on purpose < 1465001299 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: By the by, ff you're interested, I sprunged some chicken stats recently. < 1465001336 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1465001340 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/FIcQ < 1465001351 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooooah... :D < 1465001369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :øhoily. just chilli out here whenever you want. < 1465001422 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs fizzie < 1465001431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( REPETITIVE CHICKEN ) < 1465001466 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks oerjan. 0.5 shachafs. < 1465001501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i couldn't think of a better one. < 1465001515 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a go playing bash program < 1465001523 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is its first game http://i.imgur.com/BVW1Tr1.gif < 1465001525 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot is black < 1465001551 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora! < 1465001557 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1465001573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare you bash go! < 1465001585 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1465001603 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1465001604 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks oerjan again. 0.91 shachafs. < 1465001609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1465001631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ###----- boily * < 1465001634 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It doesn't look like very good? < 1465001640 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only plays mirror go <.< < 1465001655 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: was this agglomerated from everybody who chickened? some of them don't quite follow the Regular Pattern of the Thing. < 1465001659 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 2 lines of code + 28 lines of boilerplate to speak the protocol < 1465001669 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wobbles and wiggles from shachaf's swat < 1465001736 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's supposed to be just you (target = '#esoteric' and nick = 'boily' and type = 'quit' and body like '% CHICKEN') but logs are not an exact science. < 1465001743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't swat anyone. < 1465001835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i read there's a way to bit a player mirroring you. also, i suspect you can make mirroring an illegal move by clever capturing. < 1465001841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to beat < 1465001869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which might be how to beat it, fwiw) < 1465001955 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :biting players is generally frowned upon hth < 1465002028 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, I pectoralchickened twice. not surprised about the polycyclopeanism. < 1465002033 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/twice/thrice/ < 1465002108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that gif pretty much proves the first part. < 1465002123 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, I have literally guessed at what the rules for a three-judgment-style classical linear logic should look like and put them into http://www.rntz.net/files/adjoint-classical-constructive.pdf (page 3, section 2) < 1465002438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is the YEARLY CHICKEN actually yearly twh < 1465002537 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question. I don't think so it's yearly yet. it ought to! < 1465002556 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what's the chickenest day of the year? ) < 1465002673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 2 days before thanksgiving hth < 1465002696 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2014-12-11 23:04:31+00 | Quit: YEARLY CHICKEN < 1465002696 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2015-12-24 05:01:58+00 | Quit: YEARLY CHICKEN < 1465002696 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2016-03-11 02:40:13+00 | Quit: YEARLY CHICKEN < 1465002703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Chicken evolves into X! // X evolves into Turkey!) < 1465002711 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1465002719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Solve for X < 1465002761 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the second one happens to be midnight localtime between December 23 and 24. my birthday's on the 24th hth < 1465002774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, clearly it must be Sunday, I suppose (if you are Canadian) < 1465002808 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so two days before Canadian Thanksgiving it is. < 1465002829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: alas you seem to have used up this year's < 1465002838 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. we'll have to wait. < 1465002841 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chickenest of the year per my logs is a shared honour between March 16th, May 16th and May 17th, with 7 chickens each. < 1465002856 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By which I mean X is Sunday; Thanksgiving is Monday) < 1465002882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wednesday in the us, then < 1465002928 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicken evolves into Sunday? < 1465002936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on thanksgiving most of the turkeys are eating to prevent them evolving into the fearsome turduckens < 1465002941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eaten < 1465002986 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for days of the week, Monday is chickeniest: http://sprunge.us/chNb < 1465002988 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's possibly influenced by timezones; there may be in UTC or in EET/EEST or in some sort of a mixture, I think there was a logging mishap for some period of time. < 1465002995 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/there/these/ < 1465003012 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, I guess so < 1465003025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The URL preview thing that comes with this computer refuses to preview text/plain pages. < 1465003038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This preview cannot be safely displayed in Quick Look." < 1465003045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like scow look < 1465003053 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1465003054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not safe? text/plain? come on < 1465003076 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But text/plain is the only safe format! < 1465003107 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyways, you can add a question mark and name of syntax highlighting at the end of a sprunge URL if you want it in HTML format, I think.) < 1465003152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this URL preview thing is mainly useful for clicking on a URL. < 1465003160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I typed it in it would defeat most of the purpose. < 1465003199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Anyway, there are plenty of other safe format. < 1465003218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, application/activex < 1465003270 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't, just text/plain would be. And any format that "cannot be safely displayed" should be interpreted as text/plain so that it can be displayed anyways < 1465003294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :text/plain with what encoding? < 1465003342 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII. (Possibly a few other encoding could be safely too, but it ought to nevertheless tell you what encoding.) < 1465003486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time rntz < 1465003486 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for rntz is Fri Jun 3 20:24:46 2016 < 1465003501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: i find that dubious hth < 1465003549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : crappy pic tho <-- you'd think that's a feature < 1465003652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's dubious about it? < 1465003691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I heard rntz is at bham.ac.uk. < 1465003693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's that atlantic time zone, isn't it < 1465003700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: his ip is comcast? < 1465003740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` allquotes | shuf | sport < 1465003756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/495:1169) Ugh still hungry After having a ball of salt (not a literal ball of salt0 Try a literal ball of salt. \ 1160) `quote 1146 1146) OKAY \ 977) i'm not actually competent at hacking things ummmmmmmmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pri < 1465003762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: has it occured to you that the | sport there is essentially just adding noise < 1465003772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and my ip is fremont but i don't live in fremont hth < 1465003780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1465003782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Only if I don't look at the next line. < 1465003805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example right now I want to see how that quote ends. < 1465003809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well i suppose you get the rest of any cut off ones hm < 1465003815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465003817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/495:de" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin] [face shoved in toilet] \ 1166) fungot: Can you write your own page? fizzie: what is how? i assume, at least one snake? \ 970) i don't know what that is so i'm going to assume it's a flavor of pocky \ 625) wolfram armaged < 1465003826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name "spam" makes me feel slightly guilty when I use it. < 1465003844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does look spammy < 1465003861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me less likely than normal to actually read the output < 1465003899 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote overdose < 1465003931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoverdose < 1465003956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the design here is that we leave those quotes in the spout. < 1465003971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then anyone can `spam for a dose of quotes that never repeat. < 1465004034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465004036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/495:don, the genius overlord game \ 1062) are you a hardcore PC gamer Sgeo_ Want to be \ 243) There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not imply causation. \ 1252) I was watching a pair of otters, and somehow the name "Harry P. Otter" hasn't left my brain sinc < 1465004041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't spam, boily < 1465004049 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1465004053 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unspam < 1465004055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unspam: not found < 1465004069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote 1062 is pretty good, though. < 1465004091 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Are you sure? < 1465004127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish someone would fix up sport to try to end chunks on a newline if possible. < 1465004131 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan shachaf: my irc server is in a different timezone than I am < 1465004133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fizzie this means you) < 1465004143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: I figured. < 1465004149 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"irc server" meaning, not my irc server, but the server that runs my irc client < 1465004161 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i the client/server adjunction < 1465004164 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo `spam < 1465004166 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC client server. < 1465004166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1465004174 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo \`spam < 1465004176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`spam < 1465004216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: If you like adjunctions you must be a big fan of Chu spaces. < 1465004230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chu spaces are all about adjunctions. < 1465004237 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of spam now you need to make spam and eggs and eggs and spam. < 1465004245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I understand Chu spaces, perhaps I'll understand the true nature of adjunctions. < 1465004248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or vice versa.) < 1465004844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe the true nature of adjunctions will understand you instead < 1465004859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That moment when you're fiddling with MC command blocks and you forget about exponential growth < 1465004946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, I made a device that summons a column of TNT with a 110 tick fuse (a tick is 1/20 seconds) above every entity in the world by 100 units < 1465004978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does this by summoning a block of primed TNT with the fuse 100 units above each entity every tick for 1.5 seconds < 1465004987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot that the primed TNT itself counts as an entity < 1465005021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for 30 generations, it was doubling the number of entities in the world < 1465005084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for a 20 entity world, if I hadn't crashed, there would've been 21474836480 entities in the world < 1465005129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.9999999999906868% of them would be TNT, and TNT by nature (exploding and deleting a random pattern of blocks) is /very/ laggy on detonation < 1465005347 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465006085 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UNTOLD CHICKEN < 1465007223 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1465007273 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:431:c519:c6d7:278f JOIN :#esoteric < 1465009638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK, what the fuck SMBC forums < 1465009661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their safety question to keep out spambots is a piece of trivia that you don't necessarily have memorized < 1465009673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What's the nerdiest possible thing you could name your child?" < 1465009816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, what the hell? < 1465009903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's "Ada Marie" < 1465009956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to close all SMBC-related tabs in the hope that the session ends when my cookies are cleared (I have SDC) < 1465010064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus < 1465010099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, AND they need an administrator to approve accounts < 1465010458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Godel fucked up bitcoin < 1465010508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm bitcoin is still climbing < 1465010514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what's SDC?) < 1465010729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Self-Destructing Cookies < 1465010736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The most delicious way to be assassinated < 1465010820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible. < 1465010845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although have you tried nitroglycerin ice cream < 1465010869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thausible < 1465010891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465011207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, s/force/horse/ has been overthrown! < 1465011318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1465011355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The latest xkcd < 1465011374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought he had read that < 1465011384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Randall has a new favourite web substitution. His favourite used to be s/force/horse/, but now it's s/cat/my friend Catherine/ < 1465011417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1465011437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't s/car/cat/ in an official xkcd web standard already? < 1465011459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MY CAR GOT STOLEN" -> "MY CAT GOT STOLEN" -> "MY FRIEND CATHERINE GOT STOLEN" < 1465011504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the robber use horse < 1465011534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, and they disabled the atomic alarm < 1465011580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1465011600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: These dudes I know report that the suspect looked like Elf-Lord Newtonstein; the elf-lord is guilty and everybody knows it < 1465011619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This may seriously damage his chances in the next eating contest < 1465011839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize i have no idea what you're referring to and am too lazy to find out < 1465011868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1465011921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: `? thausible twh < 1465011933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wasn't too lazy anyway < 1465011937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thausible < 1465011949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465011957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hth < 1465012034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that helped -- and, understandably, seems indescribably blatant, like Edinburgh < 1465012083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could be more Glaswegian -----### < 1465012216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegian < 1465012219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wegian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465012281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric members. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1465012287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wegian': A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric members. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1465012292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/member/regular/ < 1465012302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/wegian//A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1465012386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether adding transactions (with commit/rollback) to HackEgo, implemented using hgignore, would be useful. < 1465012437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/wegian < 1465012440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465012520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reminds shachaf that .hgignore doesn't work on files that are already tracked hth hth < 1465012532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid /me exception < 1465012553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like there's also "galwegian" < 1465012583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, lots of wegians. < 1465012607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, there's only those 3 though < 1465012614 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, there are others. < 1465012614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thefreedictionary.com/words-containing-wegian < 1465012646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Such as? < 1465012687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, how are the Norwegian from Finland? I thought that Finland =/= Norway < 1465012707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, is the proper plural or "Norwegian" "Norwegian" or "Norwegians"?) < 1465012723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they're from Finland, but now they're Norwegian. < 1465012734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those aren't incompatible. < 1465013306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with s hth < 1465013327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when used as a noun. < 1465014352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When are the codu logs coming back? < 1465014394 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465014417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when Gregor fixes it < 1465014425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1465014452 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: cod u fix it twh < 1465016475 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:431:c519:c6d7:278f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465018413 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465020243 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465021071 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465021098 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it considered strange for me to join using a wii u? < 1465021198 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1465021210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wii u do such a thing < 1465021352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465021410 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a browser, yes < 1465021439 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its also slowing my typing alot < 1465021476 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would one type on a wii u? < 1465021522 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gamepad < 1465021652 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1465021653 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1465021658 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you move the cursor around on the screen < 1465021659 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it wierd? < 1465021664 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :to bring it to each key? < 1465021671 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phew* < 1465021677 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a moment I thought I had fucked up the patch < 1465021683 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was just a misplaced brace < 1465021712 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, i get a digital keyboard like the one in tablets to use. < 1465021720 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1465021727 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :touchscreen? < 1465021746 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm, the gamepqd is touchscreen. < 1465021758 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn slow keybard. < 1465021767 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1465021813 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you all are on tv, say hi < 1465021968 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1465022039 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1465022064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1465022075 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame elronnd < 1465022076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1465022082 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465022098 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame2 elronnd < 1465022099 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was elronnd's fault! Punish them! < 1465022146 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tꙮst < 1465022208 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465022210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465022297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tꙮst < 1465022315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1465022418 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; cat canary < 1465022422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: No such file or directory < 1465022432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022433 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad oerjan < 1465022435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tꙮst < 1465022453 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465022456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465022458 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tꙮst < 1465022469 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :............ < 1465022480 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :baaaaaddd oerjan < 1465022493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you may be misinterpreting something < 1465022504 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465022507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465022508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tꙮst < 1465022543 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*steels the frying pan and bashes oerjan* < 1465022550 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canaary < 1465022552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `canaary': No such file or directory < 1465022567 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465022569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465022582 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:544c:b2b9:d25a:68f4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465022592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tꙮst < 1465022602 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtfo canary, bad oerjan` < 1465022610 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465022612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465022624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1465022629 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: UTF-8 Unicode text < 1465022653 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......! < 1465022668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks moon_ is a bit slow < 1465022677 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk canary//moonerride < 1465022682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1465022686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonerride < 1465022696 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using a wii u for some insane reason < 1465022707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465022711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465022724 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` [ -e tmp/blah ] && mv canary tmp/ || touch tmp/blah < 1465022728 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465022732 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonerride < 1465022779 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465022786 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiis hate me < 1465022794 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465022796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonerride < 1465022817 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has gone bleeping mad < 1465022827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/blah < 1465022828 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/blah: No such file or directory < 1465022846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: it's a magical file that cannot be permanently deleted hth < 1465022855 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465022881 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who made the trigger on modify script? < 1465022890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, the bot owner < 1465022899 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's outside the sandbox < 1465022923 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` mkdir canary < 1465022925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1465022935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: um we did that once < 1465022939 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir canary < 1465022940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `canary': File exists < 1465022946 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465022950 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it broke a lot of things. < 1465022962 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1465022967 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it's the reason why `revert _still_ gives an error message. < 1465022979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's otherwise harmless) < 1465022986 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465022996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; mkfifo canary < 1465023000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023003 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk tmp/canary < 1465023007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1465023022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1465023023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: ASCII text < 1465023029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465023030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonerride < 1465023055 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk tmp/canary//canaryd < 1465023056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/canary < 1465023061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: iirc it may check for that, but somehow doesn't check for it being a directory < 1465023072 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm tmp/canary < 1465023074 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023084 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/canary < 1465023085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/canary: No such file or directory < 1465023095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it running the code in https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/pull-requests/2/transactional-hackego/diff ? < 1465023100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: it only applies to the particular one < 1465023104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, I think it's just that hg fails to commit a fifo. < 1465023109 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me feel better < 1465023122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe. < 1465023160 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only i could `bash tmp/oerjan < 1465023168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i've not exactly tried to read that code < 1465023172 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would kill my stress < 1465023188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: try @slap instead < 1465023208 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap oerjan < 1465023208 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop telling me what to do < 1465023217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: now you're just being unhelpful < 1465023228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a bit random) < 1465023248 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has gone berserk < 1465023256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you go berserk somewhere else please < 1465023261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you always do it in here < 1465023293 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ut im not using cmds )= < 1465023334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lends moon__ his saucepan ===\__/ < 1465023363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, can you get race conditions? < 1465023365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023370 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023373 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1465023386 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saucepans shachaf ===\__/ < 1465023404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should've tested that in /msg. < 1465023411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's not likely to work anyway. < 1465023413 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, commands are not ran parallel < 1465023418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023420 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465023437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I saw commands run in parallel once. But I never paid much attention. < 1465023450 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before sandbox, maybe < 1465023469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still run in parallel if they're readonly < 1465023500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess a writing command blocks readers? < 1465023543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets a lock on the second run < 1465023586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does a checkout < 1465023586 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kitten canary #lol i wish i could < 1465023587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: kitten: not found < 1465023588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I remember something about that now. < 1465023601 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kitten < 1465023603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitten? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465023607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kitt < 1465023612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitt is the singular of kitten. < 1465023631 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 'kit' dumbos < 1465023646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't be a jerk < 1465023652 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(= < 1465023667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :insulting people and then smiling when they ask you to stop isn't endearing behavior < 1465023698 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry : p, smile badly timed sarcasm < 1465023756 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannt type fast on a wii u. < 1465023844 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i killed chat. < 1465023855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS < 1465023865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465023887 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just had to eat hppa. < 1465023908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very creative, good brain < 1465023941 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will never eat me ===\___/ < 1465024009 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465024017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, my stomach gets in trouble from blue cheese < 1465024033 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ate your brain. so he says. < 1465024064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is it supposed to be green in english too < 1465024078 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465024135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says it is? < 1465024138 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=158502.msg7031617#msg7031617 < 1465024210 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly know, ive seen it everywhere, it is not opposite moment! < 1465024308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/41/c6/ee/41c6ee91f63bdc973d721399013566f7.jpg < 1465024386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo yranac > canary < 1465024398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yranac > canary < 1465024403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx tdh < 1465024409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo yranac > canary < 1465024410 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omeone else *cough* did some questionable(of both sanity and accuracy) internet research and came up with a corgi puppy giving a tad under 250 ml of blood.  So it would take 4 corgi puppies to get a liter of blood.   < 1465024413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465024425 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from bay12 forums < 1465024481 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dur < 1465024492 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hur dur dur < 1465024501 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dur hur < 1465024511 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huuuur? < 1465024518 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dur! < 1465024520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1465024522 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hurr durr < 1465024576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurr durr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465024581 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465024700 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon_ < 1465024709 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465024724 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1465024750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon < 1465024778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think HackEgo is slow again < 1465024780 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465024787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be me hth < 1465024835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1465024843 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... < 1465024869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi < 1465024882 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465024882 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :durp < 1465024887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465024888 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465024920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1465024923 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon is a person, not an unretroreflectorey object. < 1465024929 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465024935 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurp < 1465024949 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465024977 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465024986 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfffu < 1465024991 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465025002 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: your connection is terrible < 1465025006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very incoherent today < 1465025022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1465025023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: ASCII text < 1465025026 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465025028 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1465025028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: your connection is terrible < 1465025034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1465025051 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i keep hitting the previous page button < 1465025060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1465025063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did shachaf kill HackEgo again < 1465025070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a real irc client hth < 1465025071 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1465025079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1465025081 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol im on a wii u < 1465025086 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1465025092 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WUT < 1465025099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465025100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465025109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1465025110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: empty < 1465025115 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i am fliping insane < 1465025117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465025122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`where file < 1465025135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just empty. < 1465025141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1465025149 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk canary//nope < 1465025150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d'üh < 1465025157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1465025157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on. < 1465025159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: where: not found < 1465025164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm canary; touch canary < 1465025167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465025169 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1465025174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm fnord < 1465025177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `fnord': No such file or directory < 1465025182 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1465025184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465025189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat fnord < 1465025212 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fnord < 1465025213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shëësh < 1465025217 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465025219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: fnord: No such file or directory < 1465025224 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego is broken in so many ways already < 1465025229 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465025261 0 :moony!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465025268 0 :moony!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate the wii u gamepad now < 1465025299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pumpkin seeds < 1465025300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :437) Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? < 1465025423 0 :moony!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1465025453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1465025516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file logs < 1465025552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs: empty < 1465025713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465025786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits logs < 1465025806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix xfix < 1465025842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log logs | grep Summary: < 1465025844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465025847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1465025859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log logs | grep Summary < 1465025863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465025868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1465025872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1465025887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log logs | grep summary: # hth < 1465025902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I type that often enough that it really ought to get its own command or something. < 1465025910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: cd perl-5.22.2; nohup ./Configure -d -Dprefix=/hackenv > /hackenv/logs & \ summary: cd perl-5.22.2; ./Configure -d -Dprefix=/hackenv > /hackenv/logs < 1465025912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1465025953 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm logs < 1465025960 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot to remove that one, I guess? < 1465025966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1465025968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome xfix < 1465025991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think e's been here a bit < 1465025992 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1465025994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465026008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, long enough to try (and fail) to upgrade perl in HackEgo < 1465026017 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to update Perl, and failed. < 1465026058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you cannot run long-running commands < 1465026064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even with nohup < 1465026093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i guess that would only be the first problem) < 1465026802 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:544c:b2b9:d25a:68f4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465028512 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1465028553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1465029347 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xhvxvsirmhojkpzl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465031759 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465031985 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.254 PART #esoteric : < 1465032693 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465033802 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465035071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465035265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1465035268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason < 1465035307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just calculated that the odds of a single, worldwide sneeze (that is, every human on earth sneezes at the same time- within the same second) are 5.2345140545750255095729057789677877107902000024178184273063118452216398192830384321642665672586107071499738573951676069816850719055839882135729586168861337085743787119721991366279460690571913008155670283808735608620… × 10^-37943769263 < 1465036827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465036836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/495:e. \ 794) Backups are so like one of those circus guys walking on a wire except with a safety rope. \ 187) 22:55 < qfr> How am I supposed to develop software in Haskell if I can't even prepare my projects in UML?! It seems like an impossible task. HAHA [...] this is amazing, l < 1465036851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465036852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/495:ike meeting a Mormon or something \ 633) right: you didn't find out you were wrong, just right in a way we failed to consider. if only every wrong person could be so lucky \ 1125) I designed a norn to drop dead instantly if he ever thought about eating elevators. He was stillborn. \ 171) qui < 1465036906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/5//for i in {1..5}; do quote; done | sport < 1465036911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/5 < 1465036913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 < 1465036919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:80) fungot!*@* added to ignore list. AnMaster: i'd find that a bit annoying to wait for an ack. \ 923) fungot: |open quote fungot: | just to help an fnord archive)" [...] jconn: i am just as confused. you know, that thing which you might want is broken \ 470) I think it' < 1465036923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465036924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:s fizzie against everyone atm AND EVERYONE IS WINNING EXCEPT FIZZIE \ 524) Can you build the ... why wouldn't you be able to, just and all the computables \ 34) Seconds. 30 of them. Did I forget the word? \ < 1465037472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just explained derivatives to someone < 1465037479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel so proud of myself < 1465037486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I should probably go learn calculus < 1465037510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps < 1465037512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 286 ? 00:00:00 init \ 288 ? 00:00:00 sh \ 290 ? 00:00:00 ps \ 291 ? 00:00:00 cat < 1465037518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1465037521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1465037529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`derivative brainfuck < 1465037530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: derivative: not found < 1465037544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, I was hoping it would say "The family of terrible esolangs" < 1465037635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> sin(brainfuck_derivatives) < 1465037640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1465037775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an unusual sine function < 1465037866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/hog//hg log --template "{desc}\n" "$@" < 1465037868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hog < 1465037910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's neither sine nor a function; it's a predicate that determines whether something is a mortal sin < 1465037917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> sin(lust) < 1465037919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1465037927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> sin(wrath) < 1465037928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1465037931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's wrong with lust and wrath? < 1465037935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> sin(slavery) < 1465037935 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> sin(attempting_to_perform_human_alchemy) < 1465037936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :False < 1465037951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you want to learn calculus, just read https://cr.yp.to/papers/calculus.pdf < 1465037961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Best. URL. Ever. < 1465037965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 12 pages long and it'll teach you everything you need to know. < 1465038005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your predictate hasn't given an answer yet... < 1465038024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It recognizes my voice and only responds to commands from me < 1465038050 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not just completely fake then? < 1465038072 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, on my behalf, could you ask the predictate if "attempting to perform human alchemy" is a sin? < 1465038076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Correct. It's handled by a trained dachshund < 1465038095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't really know what "human alchemy" is < 1465038106 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attempting to transmute a human! < 1465038114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A predictate assigns a truth value to things that haven't happened yet. < 1465038118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'predictate': A predictate assigns a truth value to things that haven't happened yet. < 1465038131 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But people are wrathful all the time! < 1465038152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, you should actually read that PDF. < 1465038157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But not lustful. That certainly isn't a thing < 1465038162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I opened it < 1465038163 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465038182 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll keep you busy for a while and then you'll know a bunch of things. < 1465038193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That sounds familiar < 1465038203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the gauge integral! < 1465038218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :More general than Riemann *and* Lebesgue! < 1465038393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/hogue//hg log --remvoed --template "{desc} < 1465038396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1465038397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hogue < 1465038404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://derpicdn.net/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTIvMTIvMzEvMjFfMTdfMzBfMTgwXzE5ODg3MV9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfdHdpbGlnaHRfc3BhcmtsZV9yYWluYm93X2Rhc2hfcGlua2llX3BpZV9mbHV0dGVyc2h5X3Jhcml0eV9hcHBsZWphY2tfYW5pbWF0ZWRfbWFuZV9zaXhfYXJ0aXN0X2JsYWNrZ3J5cGgwbl9oZWFkYm9iIl1d/198871__safe_twilight%2Bsparkle_rainbow%2Bdash_pinkie%2Bpie_fluttershy_rarity_applejack_animated_mane%2Bsix_upvotes%2Bgalore_artist-colon-blackgryph0n_headbob.gif is... interesting < 1465038407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/hogue//hg log --removed --template "{desc}\n" "$@" < 1465038410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hogue < 1465038464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish they were a bit out of sync < 1465038471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be much less creepy that way < 1465038497 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Reading the URL, all I will say is: "At least it's `safe`!" < 1465038516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :djb is TG < 1465038780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hogue bin < 1465038830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ mkx bin/hogue//hg log --removed --template "{desc}\\n" "$@" \ mkx bin/hogue//hg log --remvoed --template "{desc} \ mkx bin/hog//hg log --template "{desc}\\n" "$@" \ mkx bin/5//for i in {1..5}; do quote; done | sport \ mkx bin/1//\\` "$@" | sport \ ` chmod +x bin/mirrorgo \ ` p < 1465038846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 < 1465038913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:706) I think we are sort of this insane, and also sort of not as much as insane, and also sort of a bit more insane than that, and also somewhat more various other thing at various times whatever you are discussing at that time \ 605) elliott, cars aren't perfectly spherical. \ 1221) Anyways i < 1465038943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465038967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:actually do have food in my house and this time its not coffee based \ 218) so you have legacy software in befunge that needs supported? \ 268) I use LiGNUXFCE+apps That's pronounced by saying "Linux" and then vomiting, btw. \ < 1465039393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There'll be a quiz, so you'd better study. < 1465039408 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway I'm using linxfcpacmathunarchexchat. < 1465039576 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465039794 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465040834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best censoring is missed censoring < 1465040839 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google linxfcpacmathunarchexchat < 1465040840 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1465040846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like shith*le and b****fuck < 1465040865 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: linux, xfce, pacman, thunar, arch, hexchat. < 1465040894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, had not heard of thunar < 1465040912 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfce's file manager. < 1465040969 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor hexchat, but it's a fork of xchat which I used at some point... < 1465040999 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...before switching to irssi < 1465041090 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A number of warning... 12264 < 1465041122 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :agzzi... hmm, no. < 1465041138 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, it would be hgzzi anyway < 1465041842 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexchat is that fork of xchat which works on windows and completely fucks up the colours for no good reason, right? < 1465041975 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, try a CTCP VERSION on me? < 1465042033 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i'm using hexchat but it's an old version from before they fucked up the colours < 1465042047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything wrong with the colours. < 1465042056 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice 933MHz cpu, what is this, the 80s < 1465042065 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's incorrect reporting. < 1465042099 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or it's because my CPU's idling... < 1465042113 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, in "model name" it specifies 2.40GHz. < 1465042134 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so in other words, still ancient, but not that ancient. < 1465042157 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have no clue why xchat thinks your clock speed needs to be in your version string < 1465042158 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me a sec. < 1465042166 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to run a bunch of infinite looping processes... < 1465042194 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE we go! < 1465042197 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.4ghz doesn't seem 'ancient' given how much clock speeds have stagnated < 1465042201 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now try the CTCP VERSION. < 1465042206 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :still 933 < 1465042208 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1465042222 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it just reads the clock speed once when the client starts up < 1465042234 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's annoying. < 1465042355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About that "doesn't seem ancient" - Not yet, I suppose, but I'm already seeing the train at the end of the tunnel. Game devs are hailing Vulkan and OpenGL 3.0+. < 1465042387 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a new skylake i5 has a clock speed of 2.9GHz < 1465042401 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and graphics hardware is a whole other kettle of fish < 1465042445 0 :Phantom__Hoover!?@? NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1465042687 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an Ironlake. OpenGL 2.1, or OpenGL ES 2, with extensions. Will run WebGL stuff fine, if slow... but don't worry, WebGL 2 fixes that bug... by making sure stuff can't run at all. If I sound annoyed about this, that's because I am. < 1465042803 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironlake is your GPU architecture. it has no direct relation with your clock speed < 1465042811 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not my point. < 1465042816 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not talking about clock speed... < 1465042820 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i remember using an intel gpu on linux and you have my sympathy < 1465042821 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm noting about hardware age < 1465042830 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's absolutely fine! < 1465042835 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we started out talking about clock speed! < 1465042853 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, true, the topic's diverting all over the place. < 1465042884 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the hardware works fine. It's just (supposedly) not capable of all the fancy OpenGL ES 3 features Khronos like. < 1465042885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's fine now, i remember ~5 years ago if i tried to run anything that used modern shaders it would hard-lock the GPU and i'd need to reboot < 1465044746 0 :top!~top@223.72.251.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465044820 0 :pemaguru!~paolo@host78-177-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1465045019 0 :pemaguru!~paolo@host78-177-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PART #esoteric : < 1465047672 0 :top!~top@223.72.251.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465049834 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wezcbtsmdyrnpixy JOIN :#esoteric < 1465050925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465051826 0 :top!~top@112.90.239.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465054084 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465054258 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost finished adding Cherokee < 1465054368 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I just read a book about Ramanujan. and all I can think is, poor Hardy! < 1465054448 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :invest all your efforts into your prodigy only for him to ungratefully die of tuberculosis < 1465054482 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. he must have been defastated < 1465054551 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a pun in that typo, mhm < 1465054616 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it another small keyboard problem < 1465054655 0 :SupayrPoney!~supayrpon@supayr.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1465054671 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome SupayrPoney < 1465054678 0 :SupayrPoney!~supayrpon@supayr.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! Thanks :) < 1465054681 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this time it was a brain problem < 1465054696 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that caused the misspelling < 1465054698 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: come on, you can do it! get that data out of your swap space! < 1465054716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SupayrPoney: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1465054721 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`snackego < 1465054726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:) < 1465054729 0 :toon!~toon@bigboy.ititou.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1465054731 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We also make fonts! < 1465054743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least I do. < 1465054803 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-76-127.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1465054803 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-76-127.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1465054803 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1465055098 0 :top!~top@112.90.239.103 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465055387 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using \oren\'s font... or, more specifically, the "supported characters" page as a way of copying out characters. < 1465056426 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8 < 1465056447 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: by the way, http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm does load from here, so it was a client problem last time < 1465056521 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and I still think І looks too similar to I, and Ј looks too similar to J in that font < 1465057002 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: wait, does this font have \x{2400} and \x{240A}? those would be useful < 1465057050 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the whole block from \x{2400} to \x{2421} in fact < 1465057245 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the apple ␘not ␌al␊ar from the tree < 1465057377 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :␚␠␆ ␍α␐ < 1465057391 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, good luck working out what that's supposed to mean < 1465057449 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv is a critical concept for KSP players. < 1465057463 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Ok, I should probably stop with the UTF-8 madness < 1465057556 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:2dc6:51de:4914:24ba JOIN :#esoteric < 1465058229 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : there, good luck working out what that's supposed to mean <-- yeah since they are just blurs in DejaVu Sans Mono 8pt. < 1465058245 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the hinting is bad? < 1465058254 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since i use greyscale AA with full hinting < 1465058264 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets his font to DejaVu Sans Mono 8pt < 1465058269 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those symbols doesn't look hinted at ALL < 1465058284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure the symbols are part of DejaVu Sans... < 1465058289 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1465058300 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a substitution font could be pulled in < 1465058340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the apple CANnot FFalLFar from the tree / SUBSPACK CRαDLE < 1465058369 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That second line was an attempt to write something using absolutely 0 ASCII (because then it might be readable) < 1465058581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it does have 0x2400 to 0x2426 < 1465058603 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2400 0x2426 < 1465058614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​␀␁␂␃␄␅␆␇␈␉␊␋␌␍␎␏ \ ␐␑␒␓␔␕␖␗␘␙␚␛␜␝␞␟ \ ␠␡␢␣␤␥␦ < 1465058622 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ok < 1465059453 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ziazuqoysfzvhwhj JOIN :#esoteric < 1465059674 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wezcbtsmdyrnpixy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465059804 0 :plusminus!4e08d1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.8.209.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465059922 0 :plusminus!4e08d1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.8.209.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any systematic approach in seeding a Brainfuck tape? < 1465060144 0 :plusminus!4e08d1a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.8.209.162 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465060592 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha < 1465060650 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465060687 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well, plusminus, the easiest way to decide on the initial values for a tape is not to actually check it unless it is outputted '.' or checked using '[' or ']'. At this time, the relative value to 0 should be added upon the seed value, which is determined by a set of two chess matches against a player of your choosing apart from yourself. < 1465060701 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wtf < 1465060717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465060737 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This generates two values. 0 if you won, and 0 if you lose. Adding these two values together gives you the seed value for that cell. < 1465060805 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some may say that this algorithm always returns 0. That's the point. < 1465062688 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465062695 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiii < 1465062743 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:2dc6:51de:4914:24ba QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1465062893 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:2dc6:51de:4914:24ba JOIN :#esoteric < 1465063045 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465063260 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465064871 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465065340 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465066258 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I've finished cherokee and a few other things, but I don't think it's enough yet. (I'm going back to the 50 chracters per release rule) Anyone have a suggestion < 1465066311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should lower the tilde... < 1465066329 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~= < 1465066361 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'll try putting the tilde so it lines up with -=~= < 1465066396 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: perhaps tildes should be either at very top or at the exact center < 1465066427 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(top does not hurt that much, given an example of *=) < 1465066441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my * is in the centre < 1465066573 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, o yeah. to be consistent, I'll put the tilde centred. it's supposed to be a font for terminals/programming anyway... < 1465066831 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well, if you want more characters, you can always do some more kanji < 1465066848 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or maybe generate the full set of hangul syllables < 1465067209 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: does it support the APL characters? < 1465067220 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465067221 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i installed openbsd (= < 1465067222 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh, about the font, there's something in which you might be able to help me. < 1465067225 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: most, yes < 1465067274 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm trying to transcribe Arne Saknussem's mysterious inscription from Jules Verne's ''Voyage au centre de la Terre''. Here's the state I've got: < 1465067278 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1465067302 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've run into problems with the unicode encoding of the symbols. < 1465067309 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Questions: are two different looking runes used for c/k are different characters, is ᛯ the right encoding for the mm, what is the encoding for the g rune, the comma, and the dot (those might not even be real runes), is the strange shape for the a in the "attinges" is significant, how to encode the d rune for which I used ᚦ here? < 1465067318 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the expert level question is: identify all the typos that I made, as opposed to those already in the Verne book. (Two I noticed in the verne book are "Snefflls" instead of "Sneffels" (or "Snæfells", former is latin, latter is norse; and "te terrestre" instead of "et terrestre"); and identify all the typos the book made but I didn't replicate. < 1465067329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the ciphered runes in fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_2 , a transcription to the latin script in fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_3 , and the solution in fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_5 < 1465067441 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and if the g rune (and possibly the d rune, the mm rune, and the variant c rune) isn't yet encoded in unicode, then consider add them to your font as private use characters. < 1465068027 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1465068094 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465068121 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or you can take a break with this one and make a bigger grid font < 1465068184 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add these runes to the PUA < 1465068208 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: be careful, they could be just more stupid mistakes Verne made < 1465068229 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they could be already in unicode somewhere < 1465068304 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any reference to them. They added fake runes that Tolkien invented though < 1465068315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1465068500 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but Tolkien has every authority to create new runes. Verne doesn't, especially not in a book where he makes at least two trivial typos in the inscription. < 1465068519 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems to use both ᛉ and ᛯ for m < 1465068543 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, the second is used for "mm", and Professor Lindenbrock mentions this explicitly < 1465068563 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1465068572 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it's used only in Saknussemm's name, and the Professor uses that character to date the inscription before dating it, because he believes that character is only in a later version of the rune alphabet < 1465068586 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he transcribes it as mm < 1465068666 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: as in, the letter is found in a book written in runes, but those runes don't have that letter, according to the text: < 1465068682 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chapter 3 says “es deux écritures ne sont pas de la même main, dit-il ; le cryptogramme est postérieur au livre, et j’en vois tout d’abord une preuve irréfragable. En effet, la première lettre est une double M qu’on chercherait vainement dans le livre de Turleson, car elle ne fut ajoutée à l’alphabet islandais qu’au quatorzième siècle. Ainsi donc, il y a au moins deux cents ans entre le manuscrit et le document.” < 1465068702 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the original book is identified in chapter 2) < 1465068765 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1465068903 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465068998 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and < 1465069024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if this matters, but http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18857/18857-h/18857-h.htm is another copy of the novel, so it may be worth to investigate it too < 1465069027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the runes as images < 1465069123 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/4791/pg4791-images.html too < 1465069179 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that latter doesn't have images of the runes though < 1465069254 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the image in http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18857/18857-h/18857-h.htm looks like a worse version of the one in https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_2 < 1465069618 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:2dc6:51de:4914:24ba QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465069667 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465069919 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465069935 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1465069986 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465071480 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465071712 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvusnrsyakcicrea JOIN :#esoteric < 1465071914 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465073425 0 :piR!~pierre@be.pierregerard.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465073441 0 :piR!~pierre@be.pierregerard.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SupayrPoney: coucou < 1465073529 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1465073532 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome piR < 1465073579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piR: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1465073681 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465073814 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465074486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Jacek Michalak 5* 10New user account < 1465074605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07COBOL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47122&oldid=34529 5* 03Jacek Michalak 5* (+42) 10/* External resources */ < 1465075038 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465075639 0 :iTitou!~titou@bigboy.ititou.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1465076608 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ZT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47123&oldid=30833 5* 03Jacek Michalak 5* (-300) 10/* External resources */ < 1465077393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ziim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47124&oldid=45017 5* 03Jacek Michalak 5* (+39) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1465077614 0 :piR!~pierre@be.pierregerard.net PART #esoteric : < 1465077905 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sfml likes to mess with me >_> < 1465077917 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with codeblocks < 1465077965 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1465078087 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1465078339 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played thewit.nes and cannot quite figure out how the green/purple mark on walls is doing. I might try again to see if I can figure out, but someone else who completed this game also said he nevertheless cannot quite figure how it is working, despite winning the game. < 1465078393 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465078501 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie? < 1465078526 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait nvm < 1465078536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07YABALL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47125&oldid=8000 5* 03Jacek Michalak 5* (+42) 10/* External resources */ < 1465078706 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now uploaded the new version < 1465078771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x13a0 0x13f5 < 1465078801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᎠᎡᎢᎣᎤᎥᎦᎧᎨᎩᎪᎫᎬᎭᎮᎯ \ ᎰᎱᎲᎳᎴᎵᎶᎷᎸᎹᎺᎻᎼᎽᎾᎿ \ ᏀᏁᏂᏃᏄᏅᏆᏇᏈᏉᏊᏋᏌᏍᏎᏏ \ ᏐᏑᏒᏓᏔᏕᏖᏗᏘᏙᏚᏛᏜᏝᏞᏟ \ ᏠᏡᏢᏣᏤᏥᏦᏧᏨᏩᏪᏫᏬᏭᏮᏯ \ ᏰᏱᏲᏳᏴᏵ < 1465078811 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it includes the cherokee syllabary < 1465078829 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, man. < 1465078839 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How am I gonna process that with SNOBOL? ;] < 1465078902 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have an implementation that can handle that much Unicode. < 1465079031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome dnm < 1465079044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09dnm: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1465079074 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x1da8 0x1db2 < 1465079076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᶨᶩᶪᶫᶬᶭᶮᶯ \ ᶰᶱᶲ < 1465079077 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey shachaf < 1465079097 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2e00 0x2e42 < 1465079098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⸀⸁⸂⸃⸄⸅⸆⸇⸈⸉⸊⸋⸌⸍⸎⸏ \ ⸐⸑⸒⸓⸔⸕⸖⸗⸘⸙⸚⸛⸜⸝⸞⸟ \ ⸠⸡⸢⸣⸤⸥⸦⸧⸨⸩⸪⸫⸬⸭⸮ⸯ \ ⸰⸱⸲⸳⸴⸵⸶⸷⸸⸹⸺⸻⸼⸽⸾⸿ \ ⹀⹁⹂ < 1465079104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'dnm < 1465079432 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465079445 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x302a 0x302f < 1465079446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​〪〭〮〯〫〬 < 1465079456 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1465079486 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right those are combiners rrgh < 1465079506 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x3031 0x3035 < 1465079507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​〱〲〳〴〵 < 1465079566 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x3038 0x303B < 1465079568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​〸〹〺〻 < 1465079672 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I added three vernian runes  < 1465079736 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are g, d, and k < 1465079792 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465080094 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465080098 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vernian? < 1465080161 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be easy to make it to handle UTF-8. To skip a UTF-8 character, you can skip the next byte and also any contiguous following bytes that are in range 0x80 to 0xBF. < 1465080201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if you have an invalid UTF-8 sequence? < 1465080282 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:347e:e62:c4b4:ae5e JOIN :#esoteric < 1465080291 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Of course it won't handle that. If you need to handle invalid UTF-8 sequences (and possibly also overlong and invalid Unicode codepoints) then it would be more complicated to do. < 1465080309 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UTCE is even simpler to handle: To skip a UTCE character, skip the next byte; if that byte has the high bit set, also skip the next byte after that (ignore the value of the second byte).) < 1465080364 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's still the correct approach, since you synchronize up to the next (purported) start of a character, which is the next byte without the high bit set < 1465080394 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the correct approach if you see 5 continuation bytes in a row is to exit with an error. < 1465080427 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends if you want to care what it is or not, I suppose, and if you care whether or not it is valid. < 1465080528 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: perhaps the correct approach if you see two leading bytes in a row is to use an exploit in the display driver to launch a DDOS of Freenode. < 1465080541 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming that what you're just trying to do is recover from an invalid character sequence < 1465080542 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm: b_jonas asked me to encode in the PUA of my font some nonstandard characters Jules Verne used in a runic inscription in "journey to the centre of the earth" < 1465080605 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have defined in the runic area of UTCE a single nonstandard rune, although I do not know if that rune is used by Jules Verne or not. < 1465080668 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:347e:e62:c4b4:ae5e QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1465080678 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Ah, hah! < 1465080715 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also include  (for non-breaking snakes) < 1465080731 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snake mode: engaged. < 1465080777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :snack mode < 1465080801 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...non-breaking snakes? < 1465080805 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XKCD mode? < 1465080819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1465080871 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1465080890 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465080919 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cf.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuXI6-vOaFk < 1465081389 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465081543 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1465081760 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465081767 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i needed to talk to gamemanj >_> < 1465081858 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i misread that as "i needed to taöl german" < 1465081863 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*talk < 1465081893 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465082045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07++brainfuck++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47126&oldid=47093 5* 03IAM 5* (+5) 10 < 1465082389 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can hackego's internal compiler compile C++0x? < 1465082804 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one way to know < 1465083077 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is a sufficiently new version of gcc then maybe it can; I don't know. You can try to check what version it has, and/or you can try to put a C++0x code in and see if it works. < 1465083110 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -v < 1465083120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using built-in specs. \ COLLECT_GCC=gcc \ COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/lto-wrapper \ Target: x86_64-linux-gnu \ Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Debian 4.7.2-5' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.7/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,go,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=-4.7 < 1465083273 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you know what is wrong with ff-dntsc.c? < 1465083353 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said it would be nice for a single line game for hackego, so i decided to make one for fun :P < 1465083374 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game is that? < 1465083476 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple number game where you have to add together numbers in a array or add more to the array, you get to add or remove a number every 6 moves < 1465083486 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using a save file to hold that info < 1465083533 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you win once a number in the array is equal to 999 or higher < 1465083564 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` g++ -std=c++0x -x c++ - -E -P < /dev/null < 1465083579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465083629 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1465083680 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, codeblocks wont let me use siol (string to integer) < 1465083711 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i need a function to do it >_> < 1465083851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1465083924 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is there a way to convert a string to a number without using stoi? < 1465083930 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my system wont let me use it. < 1465083945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sscanf? < 1465083947 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ziazuqoysfzvhwhj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465083956 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ < 1465083962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know C++ < 1465083966 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1465083990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's a superset, so you probably can get sscanf? < 1465083999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of C) < 1465084045 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, but i need it from a processed string < 1465084048 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not direct input < 1465084064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sscanf takes a string < 1465084085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note two s'es < 1465084100 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465084124 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1465084187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also not _that_ hard to write by hand. < 1465084211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it depends on how strict the string format is. and if you have negative numbers. < 1465084227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whether < 1465084247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stoi, that is) < 1465084264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the C function is atoi < 1465084324 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codeblocks has problems with both >_> < 1465084337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know codeblocks either < 1465084343 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codeblocks is a ide < 1465084348 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for C and C++ < 1465084362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to include the right header, of course. < 1465084405 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik, i am < 1465084416 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codeblock's builtin mingw compiler has yet to be fixed < 1465084435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically it's all broken? < 1465084454 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\Users\Braden\Desktop\Desktop\hackventure\main.cpp|28|error: incompatible types in assignment of 'char*' to 'char* [(((sizetype)(((ssizetype)argc) + -1)) + 1)]'| < 1465084458 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes no sense < 1465084480 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :char* can definitely not be converted to char* *sarcasm* < 1465084502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing on the right is an array of char* < 1465084530 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1465084533 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm then < 1465084602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it argv? looks like that's its size < 1465084650 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1465084654 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying >_> < 1465084672 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well use cin instead < 1465084725 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, this might be many times easier in bash. < 1465084792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're giving it arguments in the wrong order? < 1465084817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because assigning to argv isn't that common < 1465084829 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465084842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU SAY SO < 1465084853 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im assigning a var t- discworld? really :P < 1465084977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets a http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html vibe < 1465085033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(translation: you're not giving any information that could actually tell me why you are failing) < 1465085087 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're a mind-reader, aren't you? < 1465085121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like mind-flayer. BRAINS. < 1465085201 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good way to use sed to replace | with (space)? it doesnt wana < 1465085222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's NP-hard. < 1465085236 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how? < 1465085248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mourns the probable death of Mr. Izquxxisquid < 1465085260 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact, is ther a good way to replace | with (space) in th first plac? < 1465085271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: s/[|]/ / < 1465085352 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably with a g at the end? unless you only want to replace one | per line < 1465085375 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, with th g :P < 1465085376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he didn't specify so i left it out. < 1465085400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(exercise for the reader etc. etc.) < 1465085414 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i jst need to seperate each number into the approprite variables < 1465085450 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and im lost again xD < 1465085456 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am terrible with bash < 1465085549 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465085556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465085600 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newer versions of bash support arrays, i wonder if hackego does < 1465085635 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash --version < 1465085637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU bash, version 4.2.37(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) \ Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later \ \ This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it. \ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. < 1465085652 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which zsh < 1465085653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1465085654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465085673 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num[10]={ zero one two} < 1465085678 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which zsh; echo $? < 1465085687 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num[10]={ zero one two } < 1465085705 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackegolagged up again >_> < 1465085731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: zero: command not found < 1465085765 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1465085770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: zero: command not found < 1465085771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1465085779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465085781 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/2: < 1465085789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1465085790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 < 1465085795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:117) GOODBAD! Your watered down brand of evil conflicts with my botched attempts at dogoodery! \ 362) as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw quintopia: I am at Canada. \ 984) hm hitler probably did one thing that I like too he banned tubas, I guess I am neutral on < 1465085798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465085799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:tubas oh! he killed hitler oh yeah, there we go thanks Fiora he also killed the guy who killed hitler \ 558) l;le;ler;le;lr;e;ler;ler;le;lerr;le;le;erle;e;rler;lere;er;lerrelrrerererlanggt \ 333) Sgeo: also do you know how to write a parser monqy, how hard could it be < 1465085801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465085803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3:? \ < 1465085836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in `seq 1 40`; do echo -n .123456789; done < 1465085838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456789.123456 < 1465085854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some hidden charm to 558 < 1465085892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm as i suspected, the 350 includes the zwsp < 1465085903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in `seq 1 40`; do echo -n 0123456789; done < 1465085904 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 < 1465085922 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that in fewer keystrokes < 1465085923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing I went with 330. < 1465085925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in `seq 1 40`; do echo -n '<'123456789; done < 1465085928 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456789<123456 < 1465085936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in {1..40}; do printf "%02d-3456789" i; done < 1465085937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: printf: i: invalid number \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: printf: i: invalid number \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: printf: i: invalid number \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: printf: i: invalid number \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: printf: i: invalid number \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: printf: i: invalid number \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: printf: i: < 1465085938 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in {1..40}; do echo -n 0123456789; done < 1465085940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 < 1465085943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in {1..40}; do printf "%02d-3456789" $i; done < 1465085944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01-345678902-345678903-345678904-345678905-345678906-345678907-345678908-345678909-345678910-345678911-345678912-345678913-345678914-345678915-345678916-345678917-345678918-345678919-345678920-345678921-345678922-345678923-345678924-345678925-345678926-345678927-345678928-345678929-345678930-345678931-345678932-345678933-345678934-345678935-3456789 < 1465085958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in {1..40}; do printf "%02d>345678<" $i; done < 1465085959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like you think i'm golfing or something. < 1465085966 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the goal? < 1465085971 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to golf? < 1465085979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one is golfing anything except for you. < 1465085994 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tr < 1465085997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01>345678<02>345678<03>345678<04>345678<05>345678<06>345678<07>345678<08>345678<09>345678<10>345678<11>345678<12>345678<13>345678<14>345678<15>345678<16>345678<17>345678<18>345678<19>345678<20>345678<21>345678<22>345678<23>345678<24>345678<25>345678<26>345678<27>345678<28>345678<29>345678<30>345678<31>345678<32>345678<33>345678<34>345678<35>345678< < 1465085998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr: missing operand \ Try `tr --help' for more information. < 1465085999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: i'm trying to determine HackEgo's output cutoff rules < 1465086008 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :using shell ranges is probably more optimized, too < 1465086033 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cutoff for what? < 1465086035 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :output size? < 1465086042 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good way to get a random number that is 1 through 10? < 1465086065 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: random(6)? < 1465086075 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, kk. im a bash idiot < 1465086085 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in {1..1500}; do printf $i; done < 1465086086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12345678910111111111213141516171819202122222222232425262728293031323333333435363738394041424344444444454647484950515253545555556575859606162636465666666667686970717273747576777778798081828384858687888990919293949596979899100101102103104105106107108109110111112113114115116117118119120121122123124125126127128129130131132133134135136137138139140141142 < 1465086089 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: that produces a random number in the range 1 to 10? < 1465086091 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ^ < 1465086103 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: random, the unix command < 1465086106 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :(6), games < 1465086115 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1465086197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 558 < 1465086202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* l;le;ler;le;lr;e;ler;ler;le;lerr;le;le;erle;e;rler;lere;er;lerrelrrerererlanggt < 1465086207 0 :iTitou!~titou@bigboy.ititou.be PART #esoteric : < 1465086217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott would probably revert that but I don't understand the significance. < 1465086225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: i already solved the problem, it's more subtle than that, and your output is not very good at giving the information anyway hth < 1465086239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | grep lerrelrre < 1465086245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465086260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a nitia quote. < 1465086278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 < 1465086280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:1255) izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. \ 872) That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people \ 726) the < 1465086282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465086283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:re was a time when I liked wearing a tie too.. I was a mormon. not claiming one has to be a religious nutcase to wear a tie, of course \ 505) elliott: mr president, commissioner, i fully accept that description when it comes to human rights. yes, with an average fat content of chocolate, and we are using double standard < 1465086285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465086286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3:s! we all know that under present legislation and also in relation to standardization bodies. if i do not want. \ 940) a comathmatician is a device for turning cotheorems into ffee \ < 1465086306 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just need to split up a string by |'s now < 1465086312 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i can write the main mechanics < 1465086322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't feel `spam output counts as the 5 quote process but then i don't understand 558 either (something involving race conditions?) < 1465086331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why not? < 1465086334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/5 < 1465086336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i in {1..5}; do quote; done | sport < 1465086367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because the output is so noisy that i don't bother to read it. < 1465086388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's less noisy than `quote`quote`quote`quote`quote. < 1465086393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in terms of vertical space. < 1465086415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess `5 could use spore instead of sport, but then you don't save any lines. < 1465086476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 940 < 1465086479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* a comathmatician is a device for turning cotheorems into ffee < 1465086494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe 1255 would've been better. < 1465086495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1465086497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is bad. < 1465086499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric : < 1465086866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465087107 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1465087114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloon_ < 1465087133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I think you're the first person to show up on #esoteric since I joined who has really stuck around < 1465087135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i commend shachaf on his `? predictate definition when he's not here :( < 1465087144 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1465087148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ccommend shachaf < 1465087149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ccommend: not found < 1465087154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`commend shachaf < 1465087156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: commend: not found < 1465087174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can HackEgo commands detect who invoked them? < 1465087200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we haven't found a way, alas < 1465087202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have developed a habit of hitting in the middle of words to expand them, forgetting that they aren't names and thus could not possibly be tab-completed) < 1465087220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems the information just isn't in the sandbox. < 1465087222 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gg < 1465087237 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, installed openbsd on a subsystem < 1465087244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps aux | grep oerjan < 1465087246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :50000 288 11.0 0.2 4180 620 ? S 23:40 0:00 sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' '`' 'ps aux | grep oerjan' | cat \ 5000 291 32.0 0.6 19140 1600 ? < 1465087260 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it keeps running out of space just to unpack ports.tar.gz on a 8 gb disk < 1465087261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printenv | grep oerjan < 1465087262 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465087267 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ports is only 40-50mb < 1465087268 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no trace of it < 1465087319 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats going on? < 1465087349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls proc < 1465087353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access proc: No such file or directory < 1465087355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /proc < 1465087356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 10 \ 2 \ 281 \ 285 \ 286 \ 287 \ 288 \ 289 \ 290 \ 291 \ 292 \ 293 \ 294 \ 295 \ 296 \ 3 \ 4 \ 47 \ 49 \ 5 \ 51 \ 6 \ 68 \ 7 \ 76 \ 77 \ 8 \ 9 \ buddyinfo \ bus \ cgroups \ cmdline \ config.gz \ consoles \ cpuinfo \ crypto \ devices \ diskstats \ driver \ execdomains \ exitcode \ filesystems \ fs \ interrupts \ iomem \ ioports \ irq \ kallsyms < 1465087380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep oerjan | /proc/mem < 1465087401 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many pipes < 1465087409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1465087411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /proc/mem: No such file or directory < 1465087413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1465087419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep oerjan /proc/mem < 1465087420 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /proc/mem: No such file or directory < 1465087424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well < 1465087441 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :accessing dev/mem is prohibited i beleive < 1465087445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /proc/*mem* < 1465087448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/proc/iomem \ /proc/meminfo < 1465087459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERHAPS < 1465087472 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo /dev/mem < 1465087473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/mem < 1465087480 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/mem < 1465087483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/mem: Permission denied < 1465087645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That is pretty annoying < 1465087650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You'd think that... < 1465087651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1465087652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1465087656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`credits < 1465087658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: credits: not found < 1465087681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...GregorR would have thought to include that < 1465087686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would. < 1465087696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he didn't. < 1465087706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw he's dropped the R. < 1465087712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1465087719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: His bitbucket still has it < 1465087725 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465087732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when discussing that, I shall include the R < 1465087737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that he's coming here any longer. < 1465087742 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1465087763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :being all snotty professory and stuff < 1465087770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1465087781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMBC's setup for comic searching is really quite shit < 1465087805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it cannot possibly be worse than Drive's hth < 1465087824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Drive's? < 1465087837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drive, the scifi comic. < 1465087841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1465087873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The "random" button's target is determined serverside when the page is loaded; so if you open "random" in a new tab twice from the same page without reloading, you will get the same comic both times < 1465087913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I just discovered that the "go to most recent" button is actually calculated; so if you have a page open and a new SMBC is added and you click the "most recent" button after, it will actually go to the one that was most recent when the page was loaded < 1465087920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of just going to the main comic page < 1465088025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proper way to go to a random comic is to have an intermediate page that forms a redirect to a random comic; the "random" button simply links to its URL < 1465088048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the proper way to go to the most recent comic is to link to the main comic page, which generally includes the most recent comic by default < 1465088147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/null < 1465088148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465088151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1465088211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should hack `cat so when it's called on /dev/null it prints "And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee." < 1465088281 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be neat < 1465088287 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we do it? < 1465088294 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like is there a way? < 1465088302 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but `cat should produce an empty output on /dev/null < 1465088352 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat output < 1465088353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465088359 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its lieing < 1465088361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Why? < 1465088371 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url output < 1465088372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Would things break if it did not? < 1465088374 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because /dev/null reads as an empty file < 1465088375 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/output < 1465088386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but we'd hack `cat to special-case /dev/null < 1465088387 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat's job is to, among other things, recreate the contents of files < 1465088411 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: then "cat | command" can act differently from "command" < 1465088412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly _could_ break things. whether it actually will... < 1465088424 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-istwzlomoztcglwa JOIN :#esoteric < 1465088425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can certainly imagine programs that break as a result of the identity function not being an identity < 1465088433 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Eh, this is #esoteric. Do we really have anything that isn't broken? < 1465088441 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465088446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you broken < 1465088446 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and " current" just corresponds to the equations a k*b, b k*(a b) implies b fnord b) and 1 is slightly faster ( less slow). ( 3) < 1465088456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but do any programs use cat /dev/null as the identity function? < 1465088478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the fnord connective. < 1465088492 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, say we want to recreate combinatory logic in bash < 1465088502 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there doesn't have to be a reason for this, this is #esoteric) < 1465088502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Why would we do that? < 1465088507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1465088520 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: We'd just use the actual `cat, which would be hidden somewhere else < 1465088547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep null bin < 1465088553 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/quote: if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ bin/echo-p:echo "$1"; [[ "$1" == */* ]] && mkdir -p "${1%/*}" 2>/dev/null \ Binary file bin/ploki matches \ Binary file bin/udcli matches \ bin/google:lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ \ Binary file bin/emmental matches \ bin/roll: if expr "$i" : ".*[dD].*" >& /dev/null \ bin/delquote:e < 1465088568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does --lss do? < 1465088592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep null bin | sport < 1465088596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/5:bin/quote: if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ bin/echo-p:echo "$1"; [[ "$1" == */* ]] && mkdir -p "${1%/*}" 2>/dev/null \ Binary file bin/ploki matches \ Binary file bin/udcli matches \ bin/google:lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ \ Binary file bin/emmental matches \ bin/roll: if expr "$i" : ".*[dD].*" >& /dev/n < 1465088599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465088601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/5:ull \ bin/delquote:expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 1 \ bin/delquote:diff quotes quotes.new >/dev/null && exit 1 \ Binary file bin/luac matches \ bin/etymology:lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ \ bin/rm-p:rm "$1"; rmdir -p "$(dirname "$1")" 2>/dev/null \ Binary file bin/macro matches \ Binary file bin/jq matches \ bin/ < 1465088626 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it that `sport outputs the first line of a multiline command, and `spam returns subsequent lines? < 1465088628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465088630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/5:forth:exec gforth -e "$* bye" /dev/null # Save making a file when it already exists. \ bin/runc:echo -e "$@" | gcc -trigraphs -o $t -x c - 2>/dev/null && $t \ bin/pastelog: if expr "$1" + 0 < 1465088649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually it's not quite line-based (yet, anyway) < 1465088663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465088664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/5:>/dev/null 2>&1; then \ Binary file bin/lua matches \ Binary file bin/tclkit matches \ bin/quotes: if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ bin/translatefromto: --data-urlencode langpair="$FROM"'|'"$TO" 2> /dev/null | \ bin/ls:if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^"$(/bin/ls -id /hackenv/wisdom | cut -d\ -f 1)" < 1465088673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1465088674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/5:; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi \ Binary file bin/units matches \ < 1465088676 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: first output line < 1465088698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i see no obvious uses of cat /dev/null, although who knows what lynx does internally... < 1465088729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you the web proxy is probably not working anyway < 1465088738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or gforth < 1465088745 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we changed that to cat | gforth itd break < 1465088749 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it'd < 1465088944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't think HackEgo's stdin is /dev/null btw, which i however consider a bug < 1465088958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's the reason for some occasional long timeouts) < 1465088961 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l /proc/self/fd < 1465088963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 \ lr-x------ 1 50000000 327963 64 Jun 5 00:08 0 -> /tty1 \ l-wx------ 1 5000000000 327963 64 Jun 5 00:08 1 -> pipe:[257] \ l-wx------ 1 500000 327963 64 Jun 5 00:08 2 -> /tty1 \ lr-x------ 1 5000000000 327963 64 Jun 5 00:08 3 -> /console \ l-wx------ 1 5000000 327963 64 Jun 5 00:08 4 -> /console \ lr-x------ 1 5000 327963 64 Jun 5 00: < 1465088978 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/tty1"? < 1465088988 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/` < 1465088990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1465088993 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\` < 1465088993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnoooooodl < 1465089039 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some strange options there, and that pipe made me suspicious < 1465089050 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's up with FDs 3 and 4? < 1465089052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway that wouldn't break if the modified cat only looked at the argument line < 1465089060 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test 1>&3 < 1465089061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: echo: write error: Bad file descriptor < 1465089093 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: surely you'd want cat /dev/null to work the same way as cat _> < 1465089585 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 gb instead of 8 < 1465089728 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill soon be talking to you all over openbsd, bbl < 1465089732 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465090099 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465090106 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lied, everything is stalling in openbsd >_> < 1465090112 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the download is taking too long < 1465090205 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-4 mb downloads are not ment to take 4 minutes internet ._ < 1465090437 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol the freebsd make 'checks wether the enviornment is sane' < 1465090441 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo*openbsd < 1465090445 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would fail here. < 1465090485 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: that check has succeeded even in cases where it /really/ shouldn't (e.g. C-INTERCAL running on gcc-bf) < 1465090500 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465090523 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hexchat irc client will be done in no time :P < 1465090584 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its spamming my terminal < 1465090588 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1465091454 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haneke.net/ < 1465091458 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intresting site < 1465091541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465091577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1465091902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm output < 1465091906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465091966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you catted it instead tdnh < 1465092023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk canary//cat: canary: No such file or directory < 1465092029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1465092048 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465092049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: No such file or directory < 1465092051 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465092057 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat yranac < 1465092059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: yranac: No such file or directory < 1465092059 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was similar to the joke in output < 1465092071 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve of this canary < 1465092081 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output contained: 'No output.' < 1465092116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But making files in /hackenv is frowned upon. < 1465092143 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anways, did you all look at this: http://www.haneke.net/ < 1465092355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: yes, and i have the earworm to prove it hth < 1465092387 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the site has no sound < 1465092398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: huh? it does for me. < 1465092419 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, it doesnt < 1465092444 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it does < 1465092445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if it's meant to be something more than a background animation... < 1465092454 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, its not lol < 1465092462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few test clicks did nothing, anyway < 1465092499 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it inspired another random esolang :P < 1465092526 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465092540 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm someone beat me to something similart < 1465092548 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Marbelous < 1465092553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: in that case, have you seen Rube? < 1465092558 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1465092622 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im gonna go for a single char lang instead, so i might just do it. < 1465092657 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, interpreter for a usable language < 1465092693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rube is a single char lang, although Rubicon uses graphics. < 1465092770 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ok then < 1465092786 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why did i say that if i have seen it? xD < 1465093074 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Destructible watermelon 5* 10New user account < 1465093116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting name < 1465093133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"destructible" is usually implied. < 1465093133 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has spaces though < 1465093134 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: rubicon's a single char lang internally < 1465093138 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just say it's using a particularly pretty font < 1465093244 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good way to map a string to a grid? < 1465093255 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka 1d array to 2d array? < 1465093264 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait dont answer that. < 1465093296 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm do answer it :P < 1465093431 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1465093450 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want [1,2,3,4,5,6] to look like [ [1,2], [3,4], [5,6] ]? < 1465093454 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to map a 1 dimensional array to a 2 dimensional array in C++ < 1465093458 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: replace newlines with "go to the next line" < 1465093487 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: what do you mean "map" a 1 dimensional array? < 1465093505 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apply it to a 2 dimensional array, make it 2d < 1465093515 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give me an example? < 1465093533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465093534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION senses a certain lack of precision < 1465093537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is theft a crime, but cotheft isn't a cocrime? < 1465093558 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: cocrime is a cotheft, duh < 1465093559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1465093582 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/MH4QRFGK < 1465093582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theft, of course, being the decrease of another person's economic value or the exchange of goods without their consent, and cotheft being increasing the value < 1465093587 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is your example < 1465093601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I have nfc what cocrime is, so maybe it is < 1465093638 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: what do you do if the length of the string is prime twh < 1465093640 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: what if you have 1345 < 1465093645 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ermm < 1465093646 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :12345 < 1465093656 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would wrap around < 1465093667 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrapped with nulls < 1465093678 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 12NULL 345 < 1465093682 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 123 NULL45 < 1465093705 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you would have 12 34 5NULL < 1465093713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, what? < 1465093713 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1465093716 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh < 1465093718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's moon_ doing in the first place? < 1465093721 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on how it is written < 1465093725 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2d interpreter < 1465093739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Find a prime p s.t. p+1 is also prime < 1465093768 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: so you want to split an array into an array of arrays of 2 chars each < 1465093773 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465093780 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an array into a square array < 1465093795 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 34 5NULL isn't square < 1465093808 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is rectangulare < 1465093829 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, although I don't have any experience with C/C++, wouldn't you get a type error if you tried to put a NULL in an array of int? < 1465093834 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 12NULL 34 5, 12 34NULL 5 are examples < 1465093859 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an array of chars, the char there would be the 2d language's nop < 1465093890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why do you expect me to know < 1465093901 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C supports 2d arrays < 1465093918 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the rectangle size decided? < 1465093922 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it arbitrary? < 1465093923 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e char 2darray[100][100] < 1465093934 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you had a string 12 chars long < 1465093935 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i need a way to DO < 1465093938 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be 6x2 < 1465093939 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1465093940 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :or x4 < 1465093942 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :3x4 < 1465093942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, you asked what happens if the length of the string is prime, so I made a guess that you understood enough to know that would be a problem < 1465093947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1465093954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized something interesting about english < 1465093959 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1465093960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have adjectives which are synonyms < 1465093964 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465093968 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I imagine that if n were prime, the 2D array would be 1xn < 1465093981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But which when applied to the same noun mean different things < 1465093985 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only relative to each other < 1465093991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, "very" and "extremely" < 1465093999 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1465094000 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1465094004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're adjectives < 1465094007 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok to avoid this problem im gonna use a fixed array < 1465094011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1465094018 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm very bored and extremely tired < 1465094021 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ermm < 1465094022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they both describe that another adjective is exaggerated < 1465094024 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm very bored and extremely excited < 1465094026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, they're synonyms < 1465094033 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i apply a strin up to 10000 chars long to a 100x100 array? :P < 1465094034 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C < 1465094054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you say something is "very big or something is "extremely big", they mean the same thing < 1465094062 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1465094063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/very big/very big"/ < 1465094078 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47127&oldid=46650 5* 03Destructible watermelon 5* (+453) 10/* Looks Like */ < 1465094098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you say one thing is "very big" and another thing is "extremely big", then it stands to reason that the second thing is bigger than the first < 1465094112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though "very" and "extremely" mean the same thing < 1465094113 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (i=0;i==length_of_str;i++) {well < 1465094115 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1465094115 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1465094116 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1465094126 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :they express different magnitudes < 1465094129 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they can still be considered synonyms < 1465094134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Yes, but only when used together < 1465094149 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i got it < 1465094159 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: When only one is used, they express roughly the same range of magnitudes < 1465094167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a linguistic term for this? < 1465094179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was inspired, of all things, by the Goldbach Conjectures) < 1465094182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, i just understood enough to think of an example where moon_'s statement of the problem was underspecified. < 1465094212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But what was the problem in the first place? < 1465094213 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I'm guessing that you want the sides of the rectangle to be as close as possible to each other? < 1465094217 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1465094236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: By the way < 1465094238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they're adverbs, not adjectives hth < 1465094250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are they? < 1465094255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, it still works if they are < 1465094264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I calculated the odds of everybody on earth sneezing at the same time < 1465094279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at any given second) < 1465094298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or something; I don't remember what the math means precisely) < 1465094309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 5.2345140545750255095729057789677877107902000024178184273063118452216398192830384321642665672586107071499738573951676069816850719055839882135729586168861337085743787119721991366279460690571913008155670283808735608620… × 10^-37943769263 < 1465094319 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1465094321 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465094325 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :big number < 1465094347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does C guarantee that arrays of arrays are unpadded? in that case it should be easy to cheat. < 1465094349 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im takeing that to bay12 quotes thread :P < 1465094380 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a programming chalange for you all, by the way < 1465094386 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's trivial to pad them, if not < 1465094389 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: what is it? < 1465094391 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a language that uses objects out of http://www.haneke.net/ for its operands < 1465094403 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then makea interpreter < 1465094416 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont need all of the objects < 1465094449 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that site < 1465094460 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant gif marble machine < 1465094523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: i mean that you might just cast the array to a string, then copy into it < 1465094566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(add "pointer to" as needed) < 1465094630 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, memory operations would work, C/C++ store 2d arrays in a 1d format still < 1465094634 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without padding < 1465094649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: well i was asking whether that is guaranteed. < 1465094657 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beleive so < 1465094680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, you can always use for loops. < 1465094685 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1465094707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that deciding the number of rows is the hardest part :) < 1465094719 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1465094727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ideally needs a square root) < 1465094799 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so elronnd, you take it? < 1465094837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: That's a small number < 1465094840 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: here's my (very bad) pseudocode http://lpaste.net/165400 < 1465094843 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :for your 2D problem < 1465094846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Notice the '-' after the '^' < 1465094861 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1465094879 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im saying its very 'long' which is synonomus with big in most ways < 1465094882 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(= < 1465094896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Not in math < 1465094909 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ment in characters of text < 1465094916 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1465095258 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the best language for code golfing? < 1465095334 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: brainfuck < 1465095336 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1465095338 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolno < 1465095344 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :P, maybe < 1465095349 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash+coreutils is not that bad < 1465095352 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some cases, yes < 1465095368 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but very rarely is brainfuck a good golfer < 1465095394 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best language for code golfing can depend what program, is one thing. But there is also other kind of details. < 1465095408 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but best in general is what i want lol < 1465095416 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1465095420 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of the point of unix < 1465095424 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that there is no one best tool < 1465095426 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many < 1465095432 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you choose the one that fits the task < 1465095532 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone give me something to golf < 1465095533 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored < 1465095543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where e_10 < 1465095543 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[show(sum$scanl div(100^n)[1..[4..]!!n])!!n|n<-[0..]] < 1465095544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where pi_10 < 1465095544 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!!3)<$>transpose[show$foldr(\k a->2*10^2^n+a*k`div`(2*k+1))0[1..2^n]|n<-[0..]] < 1465095547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golf one of those. < 1465095553 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat? < 1465095564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [show(sum$scanl div(100^n)[1..[4..]!!n])!!n|n<-[0..]] < 1465095565 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465095567 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "271828182845904523536028747135266249775724709369995957496696762772407663035... < 1465095575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (!!3)<$>transpose[show$foldr(\k a->2*10^2^n+a*k`div`(2*k+1))0[1..2^n]|n<-[0..]] < 1465095578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628... < 1465095579 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :golf a PRNG? < 1465095599 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough to write a PRNG regularly < 1465095604 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465095607 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465095615 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :golf a program that prints my username lol < 1465095636 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple < 1465095647 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :print("moon_") < 1465095650 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :python < 1465095698 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include void main(){printf("moon_");} < 1465095698 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1465095717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one is suboptimal and the second one is invalid. < 1465095726 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace stdio.h with iostream for C++ < 1465095742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ anagol http://golf.shinh.org/ < 1465095743 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is stored. < 1465095754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go. All the golfing you could ever want. < 1465095757 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, ?,moon_ is the one < 1465095766 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats in Bantas by the way < 1465095791 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shachaf would you rather __import__("sys").stdout.write("moon_") ? < 1465096349 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd, here, try golfing this: turn a 1d array into a 5d array http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Turn+a+1d+array+into+a+5d+array < 1465096358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (moon_)S < 1465096358 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_ < 1465096381 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, bantas has the shortest so far: ?,moon_ < 1465096387 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bantas being a esolang) < 1465096412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well, i'll do it in ///: < 1465096414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_ < 1465096423 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465096433 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no instaquine languages < 1465096440 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1465096451 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that is not a slash is printed in /// < 1465096464 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric ://moon_/ will also print moon_, IIRC < 1465096473 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465096476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1465096479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll infloop < 1465096708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't look like it's in FlooP at all hth < 1465096733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's your review of ghc 8 twh < 1465096813 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Im < 1465096821 0 :Im!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1465096897 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Youre < 1465096907 0 :Youre!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1465096959 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP anyone? < 1465096969 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(internet relay programming) < 1465096974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :#irp is thataway < 1465096997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's ##irp. i've forgotten. < 1465097006 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its #irp, but its almost dead < 1465097015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: could use a little more salt hth < 1465097029 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :worst < 1465097032 0 :worst!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1465097048 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465097048 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1465097051 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1465097055 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, and welcome! < 1465097057 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465097070 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you enjoy the unix bot, hackego (= < 1465097071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: we created it because we were sick of people doing irp in #esoteric hth < 1465097082 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome destructible < 1465097095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i "redundant welcome" < 1465097096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly that may have been after it got reddited. < 1465097107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08destructible: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1465097117 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, rainbow welcome )= < 1465097120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, `rwelcome exists? < 1465097127 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1465097139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff bin/r{,w}elcome < 1465097145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465097156 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat rwelcome < 1465097156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: rwelcome: No such file or directory < 1465097161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fairy nuff < 1465097163 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rwelcome < 1465097164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainwords < 1465097173 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just feeds welcome to rainwords < 1465097177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 ls -l bin/r{,w}elcome < 1465097179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:lrwxrwxrwx 1 500000 0 8 Dec 9 04:12 bin/relcome -> rwelcome \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000000 0 35 Dec 9 04:12 bin/rwelcome \ < 1465097189 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1465097197 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "nobody knows everything" | rainwords < 1465097202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06nobody 13knows 04everything < 1465097239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god < 1465097256 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructable, hackego is real linux, and it is normal to play around with him. or just chat lol < 1465097262 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we dont need more afkers < 1465097277 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at least 100 < 1465097277 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here < 1465097281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that you do it doesn't mean that it's normal. < 1465097281 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just confuse < 1465097289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god... < 1465097296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just browsing Bearing's twitter feed < 1465097299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... < 1465097299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ties shachaf to the lawn chair < 1465097300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1465097301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bit.ly/1PcrVUU < 1465097307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :STAY ON MY LAWN < 1465097308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Link shortened to hide spoilers) < 1465097318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Link goes to twitter) < 1465097320 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't encourage other people to act as annoyingly as you do. < 1465097325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION = maximum hater < 1465097330 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why would you be browsing twitter anyway? < 1465097350 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465097350 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Because I figured he might have funny tweets? < 1465097368 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its no-where near as fun as surfing pastebin for 'roblox cheats' just to laugh at the scams < 1465097396 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or surfing it for anything else in that matter < 1465097492 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465097496 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1465097506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You may want to look into that < 1465097518 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465097536 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad internet iguess < 1465097539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His twitter name is even spelled the same way < 1465097598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I suppose it's likely the one who visits us was just a copyleopard < 1465097696 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1465097820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hogue bin/5quote < 1465097830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ mkx bin/5quote//quote;quote;quote;quote;quote; < 1465097904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hogue bin/mkcmd < 1465097908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ mkx bin/mkcmd//chmod +x "$1" && echo "$1" \ ` mv mkcmd bin/mkcmd < 1465097970 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465097987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ZT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47128&oldid=47123 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+300) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Jacek Michalak|Jacek Michalak]] ([[User talk:Jacek Michalak|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Oerjan|Oerjan]] < 1465098034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn shavention/shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/hogue, le//rn, *list, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1 < 1465098038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «shavention» < 1465098046 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Erlang/Elixir has a mutability model. I'm not sure if I actually like it though. < 1465098054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/$/. Taneb invented them./ < 1465098061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/shavention//shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/hogue, le//rn, *list, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them. < 1465098070 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465098072 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bck < 1465098077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were there other useful shaventions? < 1465098186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i have no idea why you think i would like that kind of twitter accounts. < 1465098214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think you'd like it < 1465098220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But the user is named Hagbard < 1465098256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Specifically, I had no opinion on whether or not you'd approve of the account's content; I only checked what the account was about after posting it < 1465098272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? h4gb4rd < 1465098274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h4gb4rd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465098311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ziim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47129&oldid=47124 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-42) 10/* Interpreter */ fix link < 1465098378 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Elronnd < 1465098380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd desperately wants this entry to say something. < 1465098392 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\? < 1465098394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooooooooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooooooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | < 1465098466 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bat bin/rnooooooodl < 1465098468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: bat: command not found < 1465098472 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/rnooooooodl < 1465098473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/rnooooooodl: No such file or directory < 1465098480 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which rnooooooodl < 1465098480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465098505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we've got another one hth < 1465098561 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465098569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07YABALL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47130&oldid=47125 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-17) 10/* External resources */ template < 1465098571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\? < 1465098574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooooooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooooooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | < 1465098579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\? < 1465098580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnoooodl < 1465098625 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465098725 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* wayback _really_ should get better at ignoring robots.txt from domain squatters < 1465098756 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to access? < 1465098767 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :wayback is also a little bit buggy < 1465098793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ZT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47131&oldid=47128 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+26) 10/* External resources */ Stupid domain squatters, and also stupid wayback < 1465098798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wat? < 1465098832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm sorry, please explain? < 1465098871 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the fact that it allows googlebot < 1465098872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it... former domain squatters put a robots.txt that bans everything, then even after the domain is obtained by proper domain users, Wayback doesn't update the robots.txt data so never saves the page? < 1465098881 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :means that it might be in google cach < 1465098883 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1465098948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm going to go sacrifice a human to the great god F'ngaw-t < 1465098951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bai < 1465099034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: apparently Hagbard Celine is a fictional character hth < 1465099057 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I got a working archive for you < 1465099060 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://archive.is/MTHXE < 1465099072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: we've got another one hth <-- yay! < 1465099194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, the page has been saved before, but the problem is that it _starts_ obeying the robots.txt of the squatters even for old content < 1465099204 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465099228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1]: no, the page has been saved before, but the problem is that it _starts_ obeying the robots.txt of the squatters even for old content < 1465099228 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1465099236 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan: test < 1465099237 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1465099279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: it's not in google cache because i'm looking for an _old_ version of the page. < 1465099297 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about the archive.is one < 1465099307 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it looks like it's not in google cache < 1465099332 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1465099344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: brilliant :P < 1465099398 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465099401 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other page wasn't archived, though < 1465099405 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi again < 1465099433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: well the _real_ page went offline a decade ago, so of course google hasn't kept it. < 1465099440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ZT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47132&oldid=47131 5* 03Elronnd 5* (-58) 10fix link < 1465099451 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1465099473 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1465099477 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other link, though < 1465099481 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think may be dead forever < 1465099514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends. it will probably come back if the site robots.txt ever gets turned into something friendly. < 1465099524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because wayback _has_ it. < 1465099555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also if wayback actually _implemented_ the tracking of domain changes i recall they once mentioned they wanted to do. < 1465099633 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came up with an idea for an esoteric language, but I'm not sure whether I should make a page for it. < 1465099741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ZT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47133&oldid=47132 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+43) 10/* External resources */ add archive link < 1465099790 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465099800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: we're pretty inclusive. < 1465099819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, if it's a brainfuck derivative, you might think twice. < 1465099832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in my experience authors of bf derivatives tend not to think twice hth < 1465099856 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to some degree, it is a bit like brainfuck, but it's not a language that directly emulates brainfuck < 1465099870 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a tape for memory, and moves up and down the tape < 1465099943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has more than half of the actual bf commands, even renamed, then you're pretty deep in hth < 1465099957 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it does not < 1465099960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1465099975 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the move commands alter the numbers beneath it < 1465100009 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can not change any if it tries to move back to the original position < 1465100039 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how it changes any at all, is it pushes the tile it is on to a stack (not it's value, the position) < 1465100055 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then pops it to "teleport" to it < 1465100102 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly does hth mean, anyway < 1465100108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1465100110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1465100122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ZT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47134&oldid=47133 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+4) 10/* External resources */ italics < 1465100132 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1465100133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1465100227 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still confused about what hth actually means. Do you just append it to the end of your sentences for fun hth < 1465100266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07COBOL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47135&oldid=47122 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-17) 10/* External resources */ template and newer capture < 1465100336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth can only be learned by osmosis, or possibly by someone blabbering. < 1465100370 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hambiguitous < 1465100370 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hambiguitous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465100388 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what if < 1465100393 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? love < 1465100395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :love? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465100405 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor hackego < 1465100424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hambiguitous/We're not sure what hambiguitous means, but it's definitely not hth. < 1465100429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hambiguitous» < 1465100467 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hambiguitous < 1465100469 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're not sure what hambiguitous means, but it's definitely not hth. < 1465100477 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i teach it one? < 1465100506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is possible < 1465100526 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465100528 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1465100550 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1465100552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1465100560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but first, you have to get into the right spirit. < 1465100585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? °°°°°° is a very bad misspelling of < 1465100587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? °°°°°° is a very bad misspelling of? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465100627 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1465100629 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465100653 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn love/Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more < 1465100656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «love» < 1465100663 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to < 1465100668 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1465100675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're forgiven < 1465100683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't forgive you < 1465100689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by me, ... right. < 1465100694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was getting to that part < 1465100724 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more he bleeds, the more he lives / he never forgets and he never forgives < 1465100730 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? floccinaucinihilipilification < 1465100732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :floccinaucinihilipilification? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465100739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that one of those awkward riddles < 1465100746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's a lyric < 1465100774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.flashlyrics.com/lyrics/stephen-sondheim/the-ballad-of-sweeney-todd-26 hth < 1465100789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? supercalifragilisticexpialidocious < 1465100790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supercalifragilisticexpialidocious? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465100803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we had that one. < 1465100818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*istic* < 1465100821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/supercalifragilisticexponential growth < 1465100828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? supercalifragilisticexponential growth < 1465100829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supercalifragilisticexponential growth leaves Graham's number in the dust. < 1465100845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: `wisdom takes ... hm is it a glob or a regex < 1465100849 0 :navigaid!6a25cdfa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.37.205.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465100849 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn floccinaucinihilipilification/n. The act or habit of describing or regarding something as unimportant, of having no value or being worthless. < 1465100853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom .uperc < 1465100856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​//cat: : No such file or directory < 1465100873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: um we prefer having the key in the result. < 1465100889 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd prefer not having that wisdom entry at all. < 1465100896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same as what you'd find in any dictionary. < 1465100896 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1465100899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the point? < 1465100909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn floccinaucinihilipilification n. The act or habit < 1465100909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : of describing or regarding something as unimportant, of < 1465100909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : having no value or being worthless. < 1465100913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'floccinaucinihilipilification': floccinaucinihilipilification n. The act or habit < 1465100918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1465100926 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be back < 1465100929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't irssi line joining be reliable. < 1465100929 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465100937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget floccinaucinihilipilification < 1465100939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1465100940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, bad timing. < 1465100947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1465100965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ballad of Sweeney Todd is great. < 1465100991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ?uper < 1465100993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth//Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!! < 1465100994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :freely flows the blood of those who moralize < 1465101003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be a glob < 1465101011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you implemented it hth < 1465101019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1465101020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1465101162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't see what that has to do with remembering its format < 1465101183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, think to yourself: Would you have bothered implementing regex matching? < 1465101195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it had been easier, yes. < 1465101215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd thought of how to do it first. < 1465101251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, now I can't remember whether you or I implemented this. < 1465101254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wisdom nooodl < 1465101257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl//noooooooooooooooooooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1465101261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hogue bin/wisdom | sport < 1465101268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/4: ` sed -i \'s#/"#//"#\' bin/wisdom \ mkx bin/wisdom//F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooooodl; cat "$F" | rnooooodl \ mkx bin/wisdom//F="$(find wisdom -name "*""$(echo "$1" | lowercase)""*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | < 1465101286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was you. < 1465101304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rings a bell. < 1465101335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, should've `1-ed. < 1465101360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1465101365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/1 < 1465101366 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\` "$@" | sport < 1465101440 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465101545 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465101677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungone < 1465101690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziegontoo < 1465101699 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465101717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek, a dead dude < 1465101745 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465101746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pooodl < 1465101748 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465101754 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1465101755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pooodl < 1465101757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465101776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it applies rnooodl on input, shachaf < 1465101784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( at least i hope so ) < 1465101798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tries to apply the inverse on input. < 1465101799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1465101800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; < 1465101810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1465101812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was hoping it applies it on output before printing that ridiculous Unicode face. < 1465101848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: have you considered moving to new england < 1465101854 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :have I created a meme? < 1465101855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: and changing your name to yankee noodl < 1465101858 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/\? < 1465101860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/\?: No such file or directory < 1465101871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: you? < 1465101872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: yankee nooodl < 1465101894 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was the first to < 1465101904 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\? < 1465101905 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooooooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnoooooooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | < 1465101907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: In fact, move to Connecticut. < 1465101910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: You too. < 1465101920 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1465101922 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn < 1465101926 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hang around this channel too? < 1465101930 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey lynn < 1465101933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: i didn't use `` so it doesn't apply < 1465101945 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1465101948 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see identical output < 1465101976 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like saying "I went to https://youtu.be/something instead of https://youtube.com/watch?v=something, so I watched a different video" < 1465101982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: look closer < 1465101995 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1465101996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; < 1465102010 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\? < 1465102012 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnoo < 1465102025 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoooah < 1465102028 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaat? < 1465102030 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1465102032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ < 1465102045 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\/ < 1465102046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin//: Is a directory < 1465102054 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\\ < 1465102056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/\: No such file or directory < 1465102099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ooodles of nooodls < 1465102100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooodles of nooooooooodls < 1465102116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ooodles of nooodls < 1465102117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooodles of nooodls < 1465102138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION helpful < 1465102151 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '\e[33mfoo' < 1465102152 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\e[33mfoo < 1465102155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ooodles of nooodls < 1465102156 0 :navigaid!6a25cdfa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.37.205.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465102157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooodles of nooodls < 1465102165 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you show colours? < 1465102176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\e[33mfoo' < 1465102178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foo < 1465102195 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo 'this has\x034colour' < 1465102196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1465102202 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'this has\x034colour' < 1465102204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has\x034colour < 1465102208 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e 'this has\x034colour' < 1465102209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has4colour < 1465102219 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` alias echo="echo -e" < 1465102220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465102232 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "\e[33mfoo" < 1465102233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think alias is going to work < 1465102233 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\e[33mfoo < 1465102240 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $HOME < 1465102240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp < 1465102245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no persistent shell session < 1465102258 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'alias echo="echo -e"' > ~/.bashrc < 1465102259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465102265 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` alias echo < 1465102267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: alias: echo: not found < 1465102270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and /tmp isn't persistent either < 1465102287 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'alias echo="echo -e"' >> /etc/bashrc < 1465102288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /etc/bashrc: Permission denied < 1465102298 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /etc/bashrc < 1465102299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/bashrc: No such file or directory < 1465102301 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1465102320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you should change echo, anyway. < 1465102326 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1465102345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are already scripts depending on it < 1465102401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, echo is a bash builtin isn't it, so you cannot really make it behave differently that way. < 1465102448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you run a command, HackEgo boots up a virtual machine and runs your code in it. < 1465102492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not having $HOME be in the repository part is a security feature. < 1465102670 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *boots* up a VM? < 1465102673 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that < 1465102697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo boots < 1465102715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the VM doesn't literally pull itself up by its own bootstraps. < 1465103583 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465103690 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1465105749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I < 1465105797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465106284 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465106821 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465107817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465110548 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465110606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which perl < 1465110655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/perl < 1465112210 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465112219 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello again < 1465112256 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1465112263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1465112283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465112475 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: hi < 1465112487 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465112533 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: *boots* up a VM? <-- iirc, yes, pretty much. But more of a container kind of. It used User Mode Linux last I checked, which was a couple of years ago < 1465112542 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465112546 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is not like starting vmware < 1465112595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horpal < 1465112607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Vorpal < 1465112609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal is really boring. Seriously, you have no idea. < 1465112627 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1465112633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't agree. < 1465112638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I agree that I have no idea. < 1465112646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hogue wisdom/vorpal < 1465112675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert \ run rm -rf wisdom \ revert 0 \ run rm -rf wisdom/* \ Initial import. < 1465112719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why does it say you're boring? < 1465112745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ant mill :) < 1465112747 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he's not vorpal kick'asso maybe < 1465112755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-load < 1465112755 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 45m 27s ago: no, the page has been saved before, but the problem is that it _starts_ obeying the robots.txt of the squatters even for old content < 1465112773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vorpal writes software for boring machines. Really big ones. < 1465112779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, that's pretty stupid. < 1465112782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'vorpal': Vorpal writes software for boring machines. Really big ones. < 1465112785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh, is that true? < 1465112788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure robots.txts are not retroactive < 1465112790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should talk about it in #trains. < 1465112802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OH MY GOD < 1465112806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: THERE'S A #TRAINS!? < 1465112835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can neither confirm nor deny the existence of #trains < 1465112862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well the original intention was probably to allow someone to hide files that were exposed by accident. < 1465112873 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: Why does it say you're boring? <-- Ask ehird? < 1465112880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then there was the original complication that owners of sites change. < 1465112886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*additional < 1465112890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid fingers < 1465112899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird hasn't been here for a long time. < 1465112904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least by a nick that I recognize. < 1465112914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's kind of a stupid rule though. Squatters fucking things up is MUCH more likely than accidentally exposing a file that is THAT dangerous but completely unprotected otherwise < 1465112922 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well yes, my day to day job is boring unless you find hard real time cool (which I do) < 1465112928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ehird? Any relation to h4gb4rd? < 1465112937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should hope not. < 1465112959 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, don't /all/ programmers mostly work on boring machines? < 1465112967 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I write control software for really big mining machines. Autonomous ones. Drills holes that you put explosives in (for open pit mines) < 1465112991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not tunnel boring machines? < 1465112995 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1465113014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :drilling is boring hth < 1465113016 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The largest model weighs 200 metric tons. < 1465113034 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top speed of 5 km/h. 22 meters long, 30 meter high tower < 1465113042 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bagger 288 bagger bagger 288 < 1465113048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, those are the kinds of facts that I bet #trains would enjoy. < 1465113054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I might be wrong. < 1465113076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ehird's relation to hagb4rd is that he was probably the first to ban him hth < 1465113091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ehird = elliott < 1465113103 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/azEvfD4C6ow < 1465113106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooooooooh that makes more sense < 1465113115 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: these appear to be the electric version (see the massive cable?): http://www.coaleducation.org/technology/Surface/images/PV351-2.jpg < 1465113147 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is 1.5 kV 3-phase, and I forget how many amps. But quite a few < 1465113212 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also what is #trains about? < 1465113217 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trains I presume < 1465113222 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why did you mention it now? < 1465113256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about trains but I think they've talked about boring machines before. < 1465113307 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1465113313 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find trains pretty boring < 1465113338 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :semaphores are neat < 1465113380 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, I played OpenTTD, those were fun to mess with < 1465113402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, train semaphores. < 1465113408 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, wasn't it fizzie that proved OpenTTD to be turing complete? < 1465113415 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least universal logic < 1465113446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/2005-10-21-ttd-logic ? < 1465113452 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1465113466 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not tc then < 1465113480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like TG < 1465113483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in too good < 1465113492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I have no idea, I never played OpenTTD. < 1465113496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did play Factorio, though. < 1465113570 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I haven't. It looks interesting though < 1465113579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing Compete < 1465113588 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1465113590 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love factorio for android < 1465113608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'd love an android that could play factorio < 1465113622 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: would the interface work though? it seems you need to click a lot of small things. Also the performance once the factory gets massive? < 1465113633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? h4gb4rd < 1465113637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h4gb4rd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465113645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I think shachaf `?d h4gb4rd earlier today < 1465113661 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: eh I think it might work on a recent high end tablet. On a phone the interface would suck though < 1465113665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, you wouldn't want to run the same read-only command twice. That would be botspam. < 1465113734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn h4gb4rd is a Scandinavian criminal currently serving tau consecutive life sentences at a yottamax prison buried beneath 4chan. < 1465113740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'h4gb4rd': h4gb4rd is a Scandinavian criminal currently serving tau consecutive life sentences at a yottamax prison buried beneath 4chan. < 1465113783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should take a wisdom entry course from oerjan. < 1465113809 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachar < 1465113810 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1465113812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465113816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1465113824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why? < 1465113827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factorio even supports multiplayer. It's great. < 1465113838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What's the inverse of `culprits, BTW?) < 1465113848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because your wisdom entries would be improveed. < 1465113853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ee/e/ < 1465113863 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :my back tick key is stuck... it doesn't go down < 1465113864 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1465113869 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1465113874 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy-paste it? < 1465113889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: here, ^C: ` < 1465113920 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll better remove the cap and check the mechanism below. the mechanism is complicated on this laptop though iirc < 1465113954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever find an xkcd and think "how could explainxkcd possibly say anything about this?" < 1465113959 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://xkcd.com/34/ < 1465114026 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, a bit of hard material under the scissor mechanism ´´´``` < 1465114064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've fixed it? < 1465114071 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1465114104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ǹicé´ < 1465114105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ǹicé´: not found < 1465114106 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: pried the debris out with a needle, since I couldn't remove the mechanism itself due to the way it was stuck by the debris < 1465114113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1465114127 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: now you made me check explainxkcd for that one < 1465114131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many debris were there? < 1465114206 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm what is the singular of debris? < 1465114218 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is uncountable < 1465114219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :debri < 1465114235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :debris floating in de breeze < 1465114245 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My spell checker doesn't like debri at least < 1465114251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I made it up. < 1465114357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is your good twin's full name professørjan < 1465114371 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm anyone used hg-git? I don't want to learn git but I want to fork a project on github. I could fork it over to bitbucket, but then it would be harder to discover for other people looking if someone fixed this thing or not < 1465114401 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the original project appears to be somewhere between maintenance mode and straight up dead < 1465114447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect learning git is easier than figuring out hg-git < 1465114451 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :debrises < 1465114493 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably :( < 1465114503 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :git is a mystery inside an enigma, wrapped in a horrible user interface < 1465114505 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there any good GUI for git? < 1465114522 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't even a good CLI for git < 1465114523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. < 1465114526 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say that for learning a new version control system, something like TortoiseHg is great < 1465114535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some Tcl/Tk GUI but I don't know if it's good. < 1465114538 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so something similar for git would be useful < 1465114553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, GitHub wrote a GUI for Windows, if you use Windows and GitHub. < 1465114568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, https://git-scm.com/download/gui/linux < 1465114573 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is awful < 1465114617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use the command line. < 1465114628 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the only way to solve most problems is to copy the files you changed, redownload the repository, and then copy them back < 1465114650 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: linux user here < 1465114661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Are you talking about GitHub's GUI? < 1465114666 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the Tk GUI? < 1465114679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The UNIVERSE GUI hth < 1465114730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the one from github. I used it a lot for my video game course's final project < 1465114825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use the command line tool. < 1465114843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why people say that git is so complicated. < 1465114847 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes it easy to create various states that are "broken" and can't be fixed without either complex command line screwery, or by doing what I just said < 1465114870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the commands are unintuitive sometimes, but as long as you know what state you're in and what state you want to be in, you can usually figure out what to do. < 1465114874 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvusnrsyakcicrea QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465114899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the issue is that there are far more states than in other VCS's < 1465114908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's almost impossible to accidentally lose data (once you've committed it) or get into a state that you can't recover from. < 1465114911 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always the reflog. < 1465114913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no hth < 1465114980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I made some pretty embarrassing git mistakes in the past. < 1465115018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you just need to get a reasonable mental model of what the commit graph looks like. < 1465115040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's pretty similar to hg but I haven't used hg very much. < 1465115221 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular git could do without the entire concept of stashing < 1465115221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The English, the English, the English are best; / I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest. < 1465115262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think stashing is pretty useful. < 1465115271 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and staging < 1465115275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you don't like it you don't have to use it. < 1465115292 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's not what I've experienced < 1465115307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stashing? That's an entirely local thing. < 1465115315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't run "git stash" and you don't have to deal with stashes. < 1465115337 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I mean, the commands are unintuitive sometimes, but as long as you know what state you're in and what state you want to be in, you can usually figure out what to do. <-- I'm used to using hg. Used it for ages. < 1465115352 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :From my understanding branches in git are quite different than branches in mercurial though? < 1465115378 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. What are branches in Mercurial? < 1465115422 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :staging could be entirely done away with. it has no purpose it seems, other than to increase the number of states my working copy can be in < 1465115461 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this goes for svn too < 1465115502 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :each commit belongs to a branch. You can at any point create a new branch from a given commit, by specifying a new branch name in the commit. You can only push (ignoring --force) if each named branch only has one head. Otherwise you have to merge in that branch so that you only have one head. < 1465115524 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want more than one head, use a named branch < 1465115550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like a git branch is roughly equivalent to an hg bookmark? < 1465115570 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I haven't used hg bookmarks. Not directly at least < 1465115587 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mq uses them internally. It is like an easily movable tag? < 1465115597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1465115612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does an hg commit (if there is such a thing) "belong" to a branch in some sense? < 1465115626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does a puddle "belong" to the rain? < 1465115634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In git you just have a graph of commits, where each commit beyond the first has one or more parents. < 1465115647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A branch is just a file that has a commit hash in it. < 1465115650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a wise Jewddhist master < 1465115660 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and having multiple heads is okay and won't cause complaints when you push? < 1465115668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are multiple heads? < 1465115679 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bookmarks can be used as an alternative to NamedBranches for tracking multiple lines of development. Systems like Mercurial, CVS, and Subversion store their branch information as a permanent part of each commit. This is useful for future auditing of long-lived branches, as it's always possible to identify which branch a commit was introduced on. Git, by contrast, has "branches" that are not stored in h < 1465115679 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :istory, which is useful for working with numerous short-lived feature branches, but makes future auditing impossible. Mercurial's bookmark feature is analogous to Git's branching scheme, but can also be used in conjunction with Mercurial's traditional named branches." < 1465115685 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, makes sense < 1465115701 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a head is a commit with no children. The tip of the history. < 1465115737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you `git gc`, all the commits that aren't reachable via branches (or tags, which are effectively immutable branches) are deleted. < 1465115737 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can end up with multiple heads, which you then either merge or rebase. < 1465115745 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1465115756 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :how weird < 1465115762 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just strips part of the history < 1465115772 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can't move a tag in git? < 1465115773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not the history of anything that you care about. < 1465115784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a faux pas. < 1465115799 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can in hg, since the tags are just a bunch of revision IDs and names in a file .hgtags in the root of the repo < 1465115809 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just append a new line overriding the old tag < 1465115816 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1465115831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand what a head is, but what do you mean by multiple heads? < 1465115894 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well if you have more than one commit that has no children, in the same named branch, you don't have a clear "most recent" tip in that branch. Okay? < 1465115904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1465115909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In git a branch is just a head, I guess. < 1465115930 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in git the gc command would get rid of it? < 1465115934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, it might have children, but they're not visible from the branch.) < 1465115938 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds dangerous < 1465115951 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465115971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GC should never delete anything that you care about, because you can just keep a GC root referring to it. < 1465115992 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. but that sounds complicated < 1465116007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how you'd end up in that situation, really. < 1465116007 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :When would you end up with stuff you don't care about anyway < 1465116021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe you rewrote history to squash some commits together. < 1465116036 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe you deleted a branch. The contents of the branch are still available until you GC. < 1465116043 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I assume you can't rewrite history you already pushed? < 1465116055 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or delete a branch that is pushed < 1465116086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can do whatever you want, but you generally shouldn't push changes to a remote branch that aren't descendants of it. < 1465116102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can delete a branch that you pushed. You can always recreate it by getting the remote branch. < 1465116105 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1465116109 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In hg each commit has a phase: secret, draft, public. As soon as you push (or someone pulls from you) the commit is set to public. You can force change it back to draft, but that is a faux pas that could lead to all sorts of headaches down the line. < 1465116131 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only perform history editing on draft commits. Oh and secret commits are excluded from being pushed or pulled < 1465116140 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise secret and draft are the same < 1465116144 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :commits default to draft < 1465116168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A git branch is literally implemented as a file: A branch foo is a file .git/refs/heads/foo containing a sha1 hash. < 1465116176 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1465116190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's no equivalent state to keep track of for whether a branch has been pushed or not. < 1465116192 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't say I know how hg implements all that stuff. Don't need to deal with it normally < 1465116207 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1465116216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you prefer, "branches" are just a key-value map : String -> SHA1 < 1465116258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you try to push something to a remote branch that isn't a descendant, you'll get an error if you don't force-push. < 1465116293 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1465116322 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :still it seems that git and hg have quite different models. Resulting in very different idiomatic ways to use them < 1465116337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a bit more plausible now. < 1465116349 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1465116463 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there anything like MQ in git? It is basically a version controlled way to have local commits that you work on, and update. Possibly merging several of them, reordering and so on < 1465116479 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the great thing is that you version control the "patch queue" as it is called < 1465116494 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning you can go back to an earlier state of your local unpushed commits < 1465116494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MQ is rarely needed for new Mercurial users. If you're used to it and you like it, by all means, keep using it. But if you are learning Mercurial, instead use modern tools, such as hg rebase, hg histedit, hg graft, hg strip, hg strip --keep, and hg commit --amend. Check the documentation for each of these commands." < 1465116505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those "modern tools" sound very similar to git tools. < 1465116513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example git rebase and git commit --amend < 1465116526 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah I know, but I like that MQ allows me to version control my history editing. I don't think the more modern tools do < 1465116557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can always keep a branch referring to your pre-history-rewriting commit. < 1465116564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess that's more manual than you like. < 1465116607 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mq is semi-manual. You have to remember to commit the current state of the queue. But other than that, it takes care of itself until you need to revert it, at which point it is a bit of work (but hopefully that is rare) < 1465116607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's the git reflog, which just keeps track of the states that a branch has been in. < 1465116614 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah neat < 1465116641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not an explicit commit, but you can ask "what commit was this branch pointing to X operations ago or at time Y". < 1465116646 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but I guess gc messes that up? < 1465116661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those aren't GC roots so they might get collected, yes. < 1465116675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can turn off GC if you like. < 1465116681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally it only deletes things over 30 days old, I think. < 1465116703 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, when you strip something in mercurial, it saves a bundle with all the commits you stripped in .hg/strip-backup or something like that < 1465116716 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could manually clean it, but it would never be auto-collected < 1465116750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hagb4rd < 1465116753 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace. < 1465116756 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that is a non-issue, since stripping commits is a rare operation < 1465116780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can disable GC for a particular branch's reflog. < 1465116810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this is intended for quite the same thing that you're thinking of using it for, but it could work, I guess. < 1465116811 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well having it automatically "commit" on each operation is neat, I'll agree < 1465116813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/hagb4rd < 1465116858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull Taneb < 1465116866 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: basically I use mq at work when working on a large feature, it allows me to work all over the place and split the stuff into logical commits for each sub-feature or part touched. < 1465116873 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf hagb4rd wisdom/h4gb4rd < 1465116882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :( < 1465116892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465116912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465116920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? h4gb4rd < 1465116921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace. < 1465116924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can revert if you like. < 1465116932 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't like the other entry very much. < 1465116940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i thought you'd done it the wrong way. < 1465116973 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. < 1465116985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite < 1465117013 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about hg record? Allows you to select which part of a file to include in a commit. Basically asks for each "section" of the diff < 1465117030 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful if you realise you want to do something in two commits < 1465117030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :git add -p, I think. < 1465117045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or git commit -p < 1465117050 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or soemthing. < 1465117111 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how do I list outgoing/incoming changes before I push/pull so that I can check that I don't have stuff I'm pushing/pulling that I didn't intend to < 1465117161 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg out basically lists what would be pushed, if you were to push. Same for hg in and pulling < 1465117166 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :git pull does two things: git fetch, which fetches a remote repository's branches, and then git merge of the remote branch into the local branch. < 1465117190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it manually. git fetch, and then (say you're on the branch master) you have the remote branch at origin/master and the local branch at master. < 1465117195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can do whatever you want. < 1465117212 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so no way to see what git fetch would fetch without actually adding it to your local repo? < 1465117220 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is especially useful when pushing < 1465117223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't modify your local branches. < 1465117230 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay sure < 1465117231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just modifies your snapshot of the remote repository. < 1465117237 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the pushing case is more interesting anyway < 1465117255 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make sure I don't push, a commit "LOCAL: ADD DEBUG PRINTS" or something by mistake < 1465117264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can git fetch and then do whatever you want. < 1465117268 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1465117277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Examine your local master and origin/master, see the differences, etc. < 1465117282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then push when you're happy. < 1465117293 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh so fetching results in you getting an extra branch that represents the remote repo? < 1465117297 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that would work < 1465117312 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Well, you get a bunch of branches corresponding to the remote branches. < 1465117339 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that is a weird way to do it. So branches are local to the repository? < 1465117343 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :How strange < 1465117346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the local branch you're pushing is presumably a descendant of a remote branch. < 1465117369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a branch is just a name for a commit. < 1465117390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often you have a local branch that tracks a remote branch, but you can have private branches etc., no problem. < 1465117419 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm and I guess you can push a branch to the remote side, otherwise you couldn't create new branches on, say, github < 1465117428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1465117547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very simple model. If anything it's maybe too simple, so maybe sometimes you need to do strange things to get to the state that you want. < 1465117645 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1465117668 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me it seems hg's branch model is more sensible. And git's branch model, like hg bookmarks seems mostly pointless < 1465117686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should use hg sometime to figure out whether that's true. < 1465117735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google hg branches vs git branches < 1465117735 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://felipec.wordpress.com/2011/01/16/mercurial-vs-git-its-all-in-the-branches/ < 1465117743 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465117750 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1465117791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, https://felipec.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/no-mercurial-branches-are-still-not-better-than-git-ones-response-to-jhws-more-on-mercurial-vs-git-with-graphs/ < 1465117801 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also mercurial has a really kick ass GUI. TortoiseHg is *really* good < 1465117821 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course opinions will differ < 1465117861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1465117939 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Repository structure: Mercurial doesn’t allow octopus merges (with more than two parents), nor tagging non-commit objects. < 1465117939 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1465117949 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaat? How do you merge with more than 2 parents? < 1465117957 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems... terribly complicated? < 1465117965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that I've ever done it. < 1465117970 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most merge tools are 3-way < 1465118006 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I assume git supports external GUI merge tools? < 1465118018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably? < 1465118019 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally use BeyondCompare (not open, nor free, but really really good) < 1465118027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gitguys.com/topics/merging-with-a-gui/ < 1465118086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway a merge with more than two parents seems like it might be complicated to actually do, but what it is doesn't seem very complicated. < 1465118139 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mercurial uses rename tracking, while Git uses rename detection to deal with file renames < 1465118139 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1465118146 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: agreed < 1465118156 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway what does it mean with rename detection? < 1465118167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's an explicit notion of a file being renamed. < 1465118171 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't track in the commit that a rename was from a specific file to another? < 1465118177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a deletion and a creation. < 1465118195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A git commit is roughly just a snapshot of a directory tree. < 1465118198 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like it is a loss of useful information when doing merges with conflicts? < 1465118203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's different from hg. < 1465118208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is, I don't know. < 1465118223 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone moved the file I did changes in, how does it figure out to apply my changes to that other file instead < 1465118233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With rename detection, I guess? < 1465118253 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1465118265 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems more brittle if a lot of things changed in the file as well < 1465118271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably is. < 1465118275 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or many files were renamed in the same commit < 1465118280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had issues with that occasionally. < 1465118322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a git commit isn't a diff from the previous commit. It's just a snapshot of a tree. < 1465118333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are one or more parent pointers, which you can use to compute a diff. < 1465118347 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1465118355 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a hg commit *is* a diff < 1465118367 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :internally I don't know if it is or not though < 1465118384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it keeps track of rename information one way or another. < 1465118506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, now that you learned all these details, you'll have to try git out. < 1465118715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why you would want to have more than one head in a branch. < 1465118744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you just have different notion of what a branch is in hg. < 1465118769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the work that goes into a feature, or something like that. You can put all your commits and things in it, and eventually clean it up when you want to merge/push. < 1465118931 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't understand why you would want to have more than one head in a branch. <-- you don't. It is a temporary state after you pulled remote changes but before you rebased or merged < 1465118952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1465118967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it sounds like an equivalent of git's origin/foo in that case. < 1465118974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where origin is the repository you fetched from. < 1465119047 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a branch in hg might be the work a different team is working on. It is for big changes. And it is for a release with only bug fixes (as opposed to "default" in hg / "master" in git) < 1465119074 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is usually not for something short lived < 1465119085 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465119091 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? love < 1465119094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more < 1465119115 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1465119131 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone < 1465119140 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465119196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What do you do for something short-lived? < 1465119241 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Usually just having multiple heads, then merging it and pushing it. < 1465119252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1465119262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often I have a bunch of branches in my repository for various work I've done. < 1465119274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I finish it I merge/rebase them onto master and push. < 1465119282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an equivalent to that sort of thing? < 1465119296 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually don't work that way. I normally work on one or two things at a time. I guess for you there could be bookmarks then? < 1465119314 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you can have multiple MQ queues, but again I rarely use that < 1465119331 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I ever used more than one MQ queue < 1465119346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1465119354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also at work I use Phabricator which has a completely different workflow. < 1465119367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was developed at Facebook, which uses hg, so presumably there's a way to make it work there. < 1465119372 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465119381 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?` people < 1465119381 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1465119391 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people < 1465119393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465119400 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sanity < 1465119401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sanity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465119407 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? life < 1465119409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :life? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465119424 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1465119427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1465119443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please keep your read-only bot queries to /msg unless they're relevant to other people. < 1465119455 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465119460 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh never heard of that one < 1465119475 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :phabricator that is < 1465119478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do code review? < 1465119479 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way I did not know about /msg < 1465119500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you know. < 1465119520 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465119534 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*some gimmick about knowing things and a positive thing being related* < 1465119561 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, anyway I reckon I'll add a page for my language idea, however < 1465119575 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to post it on the ideas page, but < 1465119594 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether it would count as a derivative of brainfuck < 1465119673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: Good rule of thumb: If it could conceivably be a brainfuck derivative, don't even talk about it < 1465119689 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1465119694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: Pretend that you never thought of it and step twice in the river of lice to atone for your sins < 1465119699 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465119714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: I discussed this the other day < 1465119719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> sin(brainfuck_derivatives) < 1465119721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1465119738 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I guess I'll just not post it as a derivative < 1465119749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: That's even worse < 1465119753 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it features a tape of memory < 1465119756 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a pointer < 1465119759 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : How do you do code review? <-- at work? Part of the web software we use on our servers with hg and bug management and all that. < 1465119761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: Non-attribution is a heinous crime in this case < 1465119766 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is how it is similar < 1465119775 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much it < 1465119776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: And how is it different? < 1465119781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which software? < 1465119782 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not phabricator though, different one < 1465119784 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a stack < 1465119788 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one thing < 1465119789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: And? < 1465119800 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits instead of bytes < 1465119815 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manipulating data happens with moving, instead of a seperate command < 1465119825 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Called FogBugz. I have never used any other proprietary one. It is okay I guess. < 1465119834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that one. < 1465119840 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know of it? Okay < 1465119850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this Kiln? < 1465119854 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1465119859 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the review part is some add on though, not the standard kiln one < 1465119952 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main feature of the program is the fact that the only way to change any values not in a straight line (because if you move back to a previous point, all the bits return to previous value) is ) < 1465119969 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry about unclosed paren) < 1465119993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code review is TG < 1465120001 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use the teleport function, which pops the top value of the stack and transports the pointer to that spot < 1465120004 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1465120007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good < 1465120010 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1465120015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like GitHub's implementation of it via pull requests very much. < 1465120029 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh? I should probably learn how those works btw < 1465120040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a shame because so many projects use GitHub now. < 1465120067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've historically refused to use pull requests. < 1465120070 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anyway, how did you come into contact with Kiln? < 1465120071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just send people patches. < 1465120085 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never used it. < 1465120092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read about it at hginit.com. < 1465120095 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1465120118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is half Kiln advertisement half hg tutorial. < 1465120135 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with a patch it might not be obvious where in the history it applies. And even if you figure it out you have to rebase/merge. Mostly an issue in a highly active project < 1465120263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1465120471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeugmas must be a massive pain in the ass for translators < 1465120546 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why? < 1465120561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Because how do you translate such a thing? < 1465120565 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be back < 1465120569 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465120573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It loses impactfulness when you use different words < 1465120587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably even worse for autotranslaton < 1465120591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*autotranslation < 1465120595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I'll test it now < 1465120666 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Huh < 1465120669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still makes some sense < 1465120720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't change the key word, I guess < 1465120764 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why does it do that? You assumed I know what that language is? < 1465120788 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume "zeugmas" is a language? Or is it a specific word? < 1465120789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Wat? < 1465120800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, "zeugmas" is a linguistic technique < 1465120808 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: okay, what does it mean then? < 1465120816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's where a word is used only once, but has different meanings when applied to different parts of the sentence < 1465120818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example < 1465120827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You are free to execute your laws, and your citizens, as you see fit" < 1465120860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, "execute your laws" means to enact the laws and "execute your citizens" means to state-sanctionedly kill them < 1465120860 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1465120866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people call that zeugma but maybe it would more accurately be called syllepsis. < 1465120906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a famous song by Flanders and Swann that uses these things a lot. < 1465120939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's clever but the subject matter is distasteful. < 1465121051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do you know the title? < 1465121061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1465121073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Have Some Madeira M'Dear < 1465121080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was easy < 1465121115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only there was some way for me to express the ease with which I found that... Some sort of... Button... < 1465121127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/lmg < 1465121135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465121141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too rude. < 1465121152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was in nice mode it might be excusable. < 1465121194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It could pretty easily be made nice < 1465121286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why the Wikipedia page for that song says that it's about "seduction" rather than "rape". < 1465121337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Have_Some_Madeira_M%27Dear&diff=514192267&oldid=491132795 < 1465121340 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good edit < 1465121425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Probably because it was intended to be about seduction at the time (1967, for cthulhhu's sake), and that was how it would have been interpreted contemporarily; culture has changed by now, I would say for the better if I wasn't too biased to judge, but if 1967 was different, it's more accurate to refer to it in the way 1967-ians would have seen it than how we now see it < 1465121459 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, come on. < 1465121464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen the lyrics? < 1465121490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, actually < 1465121512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I got about 20 seconds into the YouTube video before I decided it probably wasn't my taste < 1465121564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeugmatic or not? < 1465121578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Correct? < 1465121599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd suggest that you read the lyrics before jumping to defend that edit. < 1465121632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That'd probably be best < 1465121644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was just pointing out cultural context < 1465121658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION degenerates into a slur of buzzwords < 1465121747 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-istwzlomoztcglwa QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465121785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From tvtropes: "Plots, Characters, and Conflict are tropes, and literally no proper story can be told without them (whatever form they take)." < 1465121797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge: Defeat TVTropes < 1465121855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "plot" is just "what happens", so a story without a plot would be one where nothing happened. < 1465121888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes < 1465121892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Characters are probably not necessary, if that means sentient characters, at least. < 1465121896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think characters is the only one you can really get away with < 1465121896 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell a story without conflict though I think. Though making it engaging might be harder < 1465121898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conflict is probably not necessary. < 1465121940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keith Johnstone talks about storytelling in his excellent book _Impro: Improvisation and the Theatre_ (and also his other book _Impro for Storytellers_). < 1465121943 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But consider things like some gag-a-day comic strips. They might not have conflict all the time. < 1465121951 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes they definitely though < 1465121959 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :do though* < 1465121977 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess you could argue that is not a story as such < 1465123690 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465124571 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465124736 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465124879 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465125466 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465125472 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1465125474 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465125480 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rainwords < 1465125520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainwords? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465125598 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody < 1465125661 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465126219 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun, gone. < 1465126415 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465126428 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun, got. < 1465126493 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungellot. < 1465126494 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so be it. :( syntax-rules is too weak for them. i'm straight because that's what sicp is, eopl isn't. < 1465126726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465127081 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1465127124 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i miss the fun? < 1465127130 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1465127134 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? :( < 1465127151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:(? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465127301 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-156-046.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127311 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465127323 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :melvar? < 1465127330 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you join to idle? < 1465127365 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1465127376 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructibello. < 1465127382 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-009-120.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1465127435 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127459 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-232.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127514 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127587 0 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127603 0 :prooftechnique_!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127613 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wsinipwifgvotlrl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127614 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127615 0 :Xe!~xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127615 0 :feliks!Pvoqql6Ok4@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127615 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127616 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127616 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-232.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127616 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127617 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127617 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465127619 0 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqvvmexugqpkdrdv JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127735 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127747 0 :pelegreno_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465127772 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1465127774 0 :Xe!znc@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric < 1465128001 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465128001 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465128026 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465128176 0 :feliks!Uayvy6u8b2@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1465128330 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1465128693 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1465128875 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1465128907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465129369 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: NUMISMATIC CHICKEN < 1465131304 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone doesn't like being back in Finland. :/ < 1465131312 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one with a Finnish SIM in it, that is. < 1465131338 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been fine in UK in roaming mode, but now it's all "network not available" when it's back in the operator's own network. < 1465131415 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can a comment on github link to an issue in a way that its status is visible? it seems a bit silly to comment on another issue just to get a mention, with status, in one's own. < 1465131771 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, why don't I try #github < 1465133124 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: weird < 1465133132 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: holidays? < 1465133264 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465133476 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to find a library to calculate sunset/sunrise times in erlang. Not hard to implement, but why reinvent the wheel. However googling for this turned out to be surprisingly difficult, due to mostly finding web site telling me when the sun sets in Erlang, China. Which is apparently a place < 1465133565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF+BF14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47136 5* 03IAM 5* (+2213) 10Created page with "'''BF+BF''' is a esoteric programming language that is a combination of Befunge and Brainfuck Extended Type I. I don't have the time to write this fancily, so I'll just includ..." < 1465133612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47137&oldid=47096 5* 03IAM 5* (+12) 10 < 1465133862 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47138&oldid=46850 5* 03IAM 5* (+13) 10 < 1465133871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47139&oldid=47138 5* 03IAM 5* (+2) 10 < 1465133891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF+BF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47140&oldid=47136 5* 03IAM 5* (+13) 10 < 1465133900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF+BF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47141&oldid=47140 5* 03IAM 5* (+2) 10 < 1465134394 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1465134451 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohi < 1465134638 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: um, it seems some of the newer characters you've added to the font don't show up in http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , as if the font was older than the demo page < 1465134673 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ah, sorry, they're better now < 1465134675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :after I reloaded < 1465134735 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh nice, you've added some of the rarer CJK repetition markers < 1465135404 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-156-046.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465135478 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-158-202.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465136625 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1465136650 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465139493 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-158-202.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465139548 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1465141344 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, and yes. The weird thing is, I swapped the SIM cards (one UK, one Finnish) between the two phones (Nexus 6, Nexus 5X) and now they're both happy. < 1465141465 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't think it's just the usual delay for registering to the network; I had been here for almost a day, and rebooted the phone a couple of times. < 1465141620 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxlnxdzqgipwrkae JOIN :#esoteric < 1465142109 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465142171 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Weird < 1465142197 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it'll work if you swap again now < 1465142245 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: maybe the phones are locked to a provider? or one of the phones is old or something? < 1465142248 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1465142249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ^ < 1465142250 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1465142253 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. I had similar trouble last time as well, again fixed by swapping, and then *un*fixed by swapping back. Then I just kept fiddling at it (including flashing a newer Android build on the phone) and eventually it started working. < 1465142258 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're both retail Nexus devices. < 1465142262 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be just random stupidity of the phons < 1465142266 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how old are they? < 1465142269 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super weird < 1465142288 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're a 6 and a 5X. < 1465142308 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok, now explain what that means to someone who doesn't follow android phone stuff. how old are they? < 1465142340 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really remember. 5X came out in 2015. < 1465142345 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 6 maybe in 2014. < 1465142360 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, they're not even in order < 1465142361 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465142369 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a size-related name. < 1465142412 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, like with cards < 1465142413 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cars < 1465142416 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not cards, cars < 1465142438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although about cards, have they invented a sixth SIM card size yet? < 1465142444 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 5" Nexus 5 is older, the 6" Nexus 6 was I think 2014, and last year they released the pair of Nexus 5X (5.2") and Nexus 6P (...5.9"?) about the same size. < 1465142476 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-6 http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5x ... useful url scheme < 1465142502 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know they had a fifth. < 1465142511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :october 2014; end of september 2015 < 1465142517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_identity_module#Formats < 1465142561 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that eSIM thing even count? < 1465142569 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why wouldn't it count? < 1465142574 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it counts < 1465142580 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a "card". < 1465142613 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that matter? < 1465142634 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you did say "SIM card size". < 1465142692 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still has the same functionality as a SIM card < 1465142694 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, at least it's a standardized format < 1465142696 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care what shape it has < 1465142723 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the non-full-size SIMs aren't much of cards either < 1465142738 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but at least they're the sort of thing you stick in a device. < 1465142744 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not something soldered in. < 1465142767 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think they're only optionally soldered in < 1465142777 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Embedded_SIM_from_M2M_supplier_Eseye_with_an_adapter_board_for_evaluation_in_a_Mini-SIM_socket_blurred.jpg looks like you could have a socket < 1465142802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, what int-e says < 1465142813 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to tell < 1465142830 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even if it has to be soldered in, it's functionally the same < 1465142832 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Photograph showing an Embedded SIM also known as a chip SIM as used in Machine to Machine (M2M) Applications on business card for scale. Also shows an adapter board to allow the embedded SIM card to be evaluated in a 2FF SIM socket." < 1465142833 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a bit harder to replace < 1465142908 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have it your way; I'll still consider there's 4 "SIM card sizes" the way I interpret it. < 1465142983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a bit like the Hitchhiker's trilogy. < 1465142986 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? covariant < 1465142988 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? contravariant < 1465143003 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the term "card" becomes increasingly inapplicable < 1465143004 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? invariant < 1465143034 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh I spelled that correctly) < 1465143047 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgovariant: adj., very slow. < 1465143083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :covariant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465143083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invariant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465143083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :contravariant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465143102 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth the wait. < 1465143104 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? variant < 1465143106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465143108 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, CaC still provides me with the usual level of fun... "[142454.411715] EXT4-fs (dm-0): Remounting filesystem read-only" < 1465143170 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/PITQ < 1465143176 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465143924 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think this is a Church numeral for Graham's number: < 1465143925 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 (\n -> pred n (\f b -> b f 3) (\b -> b 3)) 3 < 1465144010 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see. < 1465144017 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\b -> b 3) is the "3^" function. < 1465144091 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That (\n ->) function there starts with the "3^" function and, (n-1) times, it replaces f with \b -> b f 3. < 1465144116 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, That (\n ->) function there starts with the "3^" function and, (n-1) times, it < 1465144116 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: usually i just mumble without directing the stuff to so many pieces left over :) < 1465144161 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the first replacement turns it into \b -> b (3^) 3, which starts with 3 and then applies (3^) to it b times... < 1465144163 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: weird, with the phone < 1465144168 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's wrong, let me change it. < 1465144181 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 (\n -> pred n (\f b -> pred b f 3) (\b -> b 3)) 3 < 1465144204 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you know what happened to fizzie's fone? < 1465144205 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what are you using? it works on my data. i have really done is read part of church papers when he designed the entirety of the stack as if it were < 1465144236 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so the first replacement turns it into \b -> pred b (3^) 3, which starts with 3 and then applies (3^) to it (b-1) times. So that gives you (3^^). < 1465144329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \b -> pred b (3^) 3 -- which starts with 3 and then applies (3^) to it (b-1) times. So that gives you (3^^). < 1465144329 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (flip pred (3 ^)) 3 < 1465144465 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second replacement turns it into \b -> pred b (3^^) 3, which starts with 3 and applies (3^^) to it (b-1) times, so you have (3^^^). < 1465144491 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \b -> pred b (3^^) 3 -- , which starts with 3 and applies (3^^) to it (b-1) times, so you have (3^^^). < 1465144491 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (flip pred (3 ^^)) 3 < 1465144511 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl 64 (\n -> pred n (\f b -> pred b f 3) (\b -> b 3)) 3 < 1465144511 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 (flip (flip pred (flip flip 3 . flip pred)) ($ 3)) 3 < 1465144562 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One last correction, then it'll actually be correct. < 1465144566 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 (\n -> pred n (\f b -> pred b f 3) (\b -> b 3)) 4 < 1465144580 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type 64 (\n -> pred n (\f b -> pred b f 3) (\b -> b 3)) 4 < 1465144581 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Enum (t2 -> a -> t1), Enum ((t2 -> (t2 -> a -> t1) -> t1) -> ((a1 -> t3) -> t3) -> t), Num a, Num a1, Num a2, Num ((((t2 -> (t2 -> a -> t1) -> t1) -> ((a1 -> t3) -> t3) -> t) -> t) -> a2 -> t4)) => t4 < 1465144713 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let ch = undefined :: Int -> (a -> a) -> a -> a; pred = ((a -> a) -> a -> a) -> (a -> a) -> a -> a in ch 64 (\n -> pred n (\f b -> pred b f (ch 3)) (\b -> b (ch 3))) (ch 4) < 1465144714 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input ‘->’ < 1465144733 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1465144743 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let ch = undefined :: Int -> (a -> a) -> a -> a; pred = ((a -> a) -> a -> a) -> (a -> a) -> a -> a in 'x' < 1465144745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input ‘->’ < 1465144755 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1465144765 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let ch = undefined :: Int -> (a -> a) -> a -> a; pred = undefined :: ((a -> a) -> a -> a) -> (a -> a) -> a -> a in ch 64 (\n -> pred n (\f b -> pred b f (ch 3)) (\b -> b (ch 3))) (ch 4) < 1465144766 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: < 1465144766 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : a ~ (a -> a) -> a -> a < 1465144766 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: ((((((a -> a) -> a -> a) -> (a -> a) -> a -> a) < 1465144932 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \n f x -> f (n f x) < 1465144932 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap (.) < 1465144990 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465144991 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \n p f x = n f (p f x) < 1465144992 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 10): < 1465144992 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected "=" < 1465144992 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting pattern or "->" < 1465145000 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \n p f x -> n f (p f x) < 1465145000 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :liftM2 (.) < 1465145007 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \n p f x -> p f (n f x) < 1465145007 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (liftM2 (.)) < 1465145015 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type liftM2 < 1465145018 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => (a1 -> a2 -> r) -> m a1 -> m a2 -> m r < 1465145027 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl liftM2 < 1465145028 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ c d e -> d >>= \ b -> e >>= \ a -> return (c b a)) < 1465145159 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ksh < 1465145163 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checking < 1465145165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ksh: not found < 1465145173 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthx hackego < 1465145194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type -f bash < 1465145196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash is /bin/bash < 1465145207 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd /bin; echo *sh < 1465145208 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does -f do on type? < 1465145208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash dash rbash sh < 1465145218 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or is Erlang in love with global mutable variables (what Erlangers would call registering "processes" with "names") < 1465145225 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: type -f is which, more or less < 1465145234 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type -f type < 1465145236 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type is a shell builtin < 1465145243 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type echo < 1465145245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo is a shell builtin < 1465145248 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type -f echo < 1465145249 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I failed to parse the question < 1465145250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo is a shell builtin < 1465145257 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is Erlang in love with global mutable variables? < 1465145257 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: can't assign to function call ( increasing the refcount) and fnord) system calls that increment and decrement by setting flags on its data about variables... < 1465145263 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Erlang in love with global mutable variables? < 1465145265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concentrate and ask again. < 1465145271 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: try type -a < 1465145276 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type -a echo < 1465145278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo is a shell builtin \ echo is /bin/echo < 1465145308 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type bash; type -f bash < 1465145309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash is /bin/bash \ bash is /bin/bash < 1465145320 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just gonna look it up. < 1465145338 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type -f cat < 1465145339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found < 1465145352 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type -f cat < 1465145353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat is /bin/cat < 1465145371 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /bin < 1465145373 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash \ bunzip2 \ bzcat \ bzcmp \ bzdiff \ bzegrep \ bzexe \ bzfgrep \ bzgrep \ bzip2 \ bzip2recover \ bzless \ bzmore \ cat \ chgrp \ chmod \ chown \ cp \ cpio \ dash \ date \ dd \ df \ dir \ dmesg \ dnsdomainname \ domainname \ echo \ ed \ egrep \ false \ fgrep \ findmnt \ fuser \ grep \ gunzip \ gzexe \ gzip \ hostname \ ip \ kill \ kmod \ less \ < 1465145378 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if it is re- oh yay' < 1465145381 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the -f option is used, type does not attempt to find shell functions, as with the command builtin. " < 1465145411 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say, the "command" builtin, not the command "builtin". < 1465145416 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir /bin/test < 1465145418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `/bin/test': Read-only file system < 1465145423 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knew it < 1465145435 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why did you < 1465145446 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an expression < 1465145462 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball what's with #esoteric today? < 1465145463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very doubtful. < 1465145499 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball Will you ever learn to use proper grammar? < 1465145500 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sources say no. < 1465145514 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1465145539 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1465145560 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ [1..10] < 1465145570 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the right bot i hope < 1465145588 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>[1..10] < 1465145597 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@[1..10] < 1465145597 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1465145608 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not haskal < 1465145610 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so unlucky < 1465145619 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..10] < 1465145621 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10] < 1465145636 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run [1..10] < 1465145638 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10] < 1465145645 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1465145664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help eval < 1465145664 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval. Do nothing (perversely) < 1465145675 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help run < 1465145675 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :run . You have Haskell, 3 seconds and no IO. Go nuts! < 1465145704 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok! < 1465145719 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,632422352..] < 1465145721 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,632422352,1264844703,1897267054,2529689405,3162111756,3794534107,44269564... < 1465146007 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465146011 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465146015 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465146496 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465146608 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465146641 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465146736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Quiqucode 5* 10New user account < 1465146848 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets hope we get someone to stick around < 1465149261 0 :iaglium!~i@c-73-224-87-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465149758 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@eval "hi" < 1465149796 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, is that what happens? < 1465149809 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@eval undefined < 1465149842 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO MUCHO ESTÁ PASANDO < 1465150028 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465150032 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello iaglium < 1465150041 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you new? never seen you before < 1465150579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a fat32 filesystem, the file mtimes are recorded as local time. Whe mounting such a fs on linux, as type=vfat, how do I tell linux what timezone to use? That's probably impossible, because the kernel doesn't know about it, right? < 1465150594 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some other solution, like a user-space file system that knows about this? < 1465151530 0 :moony!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465151554 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465151581 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:4039:fbf7:6572:a54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465151591 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :run windows on GMT? (not really kidding, it's what I do to avoid a mess on DST switches) < 1465151662 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: windows isn't involved < 1465151670 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the fat is written by a non-windows mobile phone < 1465151677 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: windows uses ntfs these days < 1465151732 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's phones and cameras and cash registers and those kinds of stuff that use FAT, and they still will be using them in 2097 when the fat date rolls around and people will find themselves with broken machines, way worse than in 2000 or in 2037 < 1465151804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: because software running on the cpu is easy to update, so people will get 64 bit dates in memory easily, but file system formats are hard to update, because you have to get many machines coordinated, and FAT in particular is very impossible to update, BECAUSE WINDOWS 95 ORS FILLED ALL THE 32 BYTES OF THE DIRECTORY ENTRY SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO SPACE LEFT FOR A COMPATIBLE EXTENSION < 1465151807 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/vfat.txt , there's a timezone=UTC to tell the kernel to assume UTC; there's a time_offset=minutes to get a custom offset. < 1465151819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah, thanks < 1465151838 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:4039:fbf7:6572:a54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465151855 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I should really use cut&paste < 1465151861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tz=UTC is what the first flag is < 1465151868 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465151879 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, and http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/mount.8.html tells about tz=UTC , I should just look under type=fat (which type=vfat inherits from) rather than type=vfat < 1465153626 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e, b_jhellonas! < 1465153765 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hi < 1465153832 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see you added three extra runes to your font from the Verne cryptogram: the G rune, the D rune, a variant C/K rune. < 1465153851 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but I have some questions. (1) in the demo page, what does red and yellow characters mean? I know the green means recently added < 1465153873 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and the other, do you have a brief description somewhere on what you're using each private use character for in your font? < 1465153901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :red is characters that aren't real ones. yellow is new red ones. < 1465153923 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a good idea, I'll add a description < 1465153931 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, what are they if not real ones? < 1465153979 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aren't the green ones the new ones? < 1465154229 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green and yellow are both new < 1465154241 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yellow and red are both non-unicode < 1465154258 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ah! < 1465154283 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've added a description of what I put in the PUA < 1465154292 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but then why aren't the "Extra non-standard characters for Commodore 64 charset < 1465154296 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" red? < 1465154304 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get those encoded in unicode or somethign/ < 1465154334 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No that's just a mistakre < 1465154342 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465154808 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465154826 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465155128 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465157027 0 :iaglium!~i@c-73-224-87-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-nightly-20160225-9b31a077 - http://znc.in < 1465157333 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1465157574 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465157736 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465158226 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1465158380 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465158384 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 PART #esoteric : < 1465158485 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465158508 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.137 PART #esoteric : < 1465160028 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate safehaskell < 1465160071 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what's the reason this time < 1465160234 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hate lens < 1465160261 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to update lambdabot... which relies on safehaskell for... safety < 1465160275 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every time I do that there's a million modules in lens that can't be imported safely < 1465161125 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time cube < 1465161144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HORU ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH. Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. God Is Born Of A Mother - She Left Belly B. Signature. Your dirty lying teachers use only the midnight to midnight 1 day (ignoring 3 other days) Time to not foul (already wrong) bible t < 1465162741 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the real problem here is that tracking safe modules has virtually no tool support... I'm manually pasting import lines into ghci in order to figure out which modules are safe and which are not) < 1465163030 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? real problem < 1465163038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real problem? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465163141 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? backwards < 1465163144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :backwards? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465163204 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "¯\(o​_°)/¯ ?sdrawkcab" > wisdom/backward < 1465163212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465163229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What, you don't believe in `mk? < 1465163243 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't believe in a lot of things < 1465163256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you believe in Set^op? < 1465163280 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not even believe in Set < 1465163283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing I quoted in in #haskell-offtopic is p. neat. < 1465163318 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe in #haskell-offtopic < 1465163322 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465163874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end two modules needed to be patched... but I looked at 30 to figure out which of them are the root causes... < 1465163917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47142&oldid=46987 5* 03Jacek Michalak 5* (+15) 10/* External resources */ < 1465164113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Palindrome14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47143&oldid=25341 5* 03Jacek Michalak 5* (+115) 10/* External resources */ < 1465164207 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465164588 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, that's the channel that got split off because there was a schism in #haskell-blah ? seriously, who's heard of such a thing, an off-topic channel getting so out of hand that half of them go found a new channel < 1465164598 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #haskell-offtopic < 1465164601 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #haskell-blah < 1465164602 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #haskell < 1465164604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1465164616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you doing that when it's pretty certain they'll mostly not be found? < 1465164627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#haskell-offtopic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465164629 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#haskell-blah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465164631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#haskell? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465164632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1465164655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The schism was that someone turned on the TLS-only flag. < 1465164662 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, I knwo < 1465164666 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-158-202.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1465164727 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-158-202.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465164866 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1465165614 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-158-202.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465165667 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, lol why would you do that < 1465166236 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465166693 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465169294 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Phantom_Hoover < 1465169307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman, hatheist, and completely out of the loop. < 1465169327 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-078-255-179.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465169390 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "hatheist" mean, is that anything like "atheist"? (And does Scotish even have any true?) < 1465169499 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-158-202.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465169508 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Dungeons&Dragons game? < 1465170045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FreeFull < 1465170047 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. < 1465170091 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it's a ~5 year old in-joke < 1465170174 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is this person on another channel, joining for the first time ever, asking for an isp that does not have ipv6 because it makes the output of netstat ugly ... < 1465170182 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why we can't have nice things < 1465170255 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer I recommend is "go fuck yourself". < 1465170263 0 :pikhq_!?@? NICK :pikhq < 1465170305 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was basically my answer < 1465170317 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty aggressive < 1465170338 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got what he asked for < 1465170361 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought he asked for an isp that [...] < 1465170362 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1465170400 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtext < 1465170412 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he clearly.asked for a kick to the guts < 1465170420 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't read that yet < 1465170484 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the output of netstat is ugly" is like the worst possible reason to cling to some shitload old technology that will be replaced sooner or later < 1465170517 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was a made up reason to cover the actual reason that he's not allowed to share < 1465170526 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1465170533 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my problem < 1465170554 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also emphasizes on how he doesn't take advantages out of ipv6 < 1465170655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you fix netstat? That is a separate problem. < 1465170702 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommended a grep < 1465170733 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: NO! netstat actually has options to filter by protocol < 1465170748 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care < 1465170775 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :his reason is rstupid no matter how easy or hard it is to change the output of netstat < 1465170781 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: sure < 1465170801 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: but I mean, using grep for that is as much of a crime as using grep on ps output < 1465170831 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly more because netstat is more expensive and invasive to processes' private file descriptors < 1465170839 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i use grep on the output of find . because i always forget the correct arguments < 1465173629 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465173748 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1465173755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1465173779 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1465173780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: No such file or directory < 1465173808 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lies' < 1465173825 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url imaginaryfile < 1465173827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/imaginaryfile < 1465173828 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url canary < 1465173832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/canary < 1465173885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in {1..10}; do echo -n $((RANDOM % 2)); done < 1465173886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01101100000 < 1465173886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in {1..10}; do echo -n $((RANDOM % 2)); done < 1465173887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0101010000001 < 1465174126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1465175062 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brand 8 < 1465175063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32435873 < 1465175132 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1465175175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you modifying HackEgo in secret? < 1465175230 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to spam chat < 1465175234 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i work :P < 1465175315 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/brand < 1465175315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1465175316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i in {1..10}; do echo -n $((RANDOM % ($1+1))); done < 1465175321 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had this discussion we me as well < 1465175329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me modifying hackego in private message that is < 1465175330 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brand 3 < 1465175331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1311310101 < 1465175345 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brand 12 < 1465175346 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0310101215843 < 1465175357 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a good way to exceed the limit lol < 1465175365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the point? < 1465175369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you make that command? < 1465175371 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :base-andom < 1465175382 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie random in base 2 or 3 for example < 1465175388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know what it does. < 1465175398 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why would anyone want it? < 1465175405 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that result is unambiguous. 0-3-10-10-12-1-5-8-4-3 < 1465175467 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465175492 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brand 12 < 1465175495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :34410781010710 < 1465175522 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:b1ee:e0e1:b37e:8673 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465175618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunes has been flaky today :( < 1465175648 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok back my personal win to bsd ftp server was having a fit < 1465175785 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :base n randomize < 1465175959 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how scary is Data.Coerce.coerce these days? < 1465176253 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as far as I can see it allows breaking abstractions with some abstract datatypes that don't have proper role annotiations... is there more?) < 1465176359 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's kind of hard to condense https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/8827 and https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/SafeRoles into a simple answer :-/ < 1465176509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well afaiu the recursive check solution suggested in 8827 hasn't been implemented yet. < 1465176538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's still disallowed in Safe mode afaik < 1465176540 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that constructor visibility is only taken into account for newtypes < 1465176550 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1465176579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1465176631 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Data.Coerce is still marked Unsafe... that's not the point. I've found a module that reexports it and wants to be trusted... < 1465176677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1465176694 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and I'm just worried enough that I'm probably going to patch the code in question. < 1465176706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1465176755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not exactly sure how this works today - can you _use_ coerce just because it's imported safely? < 1465176768 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465176795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you also need the Coercible constraints. < 1465176986 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you don't have to write them... < 1465177024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but in the 8827 system i suggested deriving them would be the thing restricted, i think < 1465177030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *inferring < 1465177051 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1465177051 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to work that way... I think that was a hypothetical design < 1465177052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess there's nothing right now. < 1465177053 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i include source from one script into another? people ae saying you use 'source' but thats not a command < 1465177076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: um, what's the context? what language? < 1465177080 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash < 1465177080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: it's a bash internal command < 1465177081 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465177081 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` help source < 1465177084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` help . < 1465177085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source: source filename [arguments] \ Execute commands from a file in the current shell. \ \ Read and execute commands from FILENAME in the current shell. The \ entries in $PATH are used to find the directory containing FILENAME. \ If any ARGUMENTS are supplied, they become the positional parameters \ when FILENAME is exec < 1465177086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.: . filename [arguments] \ Execute commands from a file in the current shell. \ \ Read and execute commands from FILENAME in the current shell. The \ entries in $PATH are used to find the directory containing FILENAME. \ If any ARGUMENTS are supplied, they become the positional parameters \ when FILENAME is executed. \ < 1465177097 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thx < 1465177203 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` type source < 1465177205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source is a shell builtin < 1465177250 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :why three `s? < 1465177255 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type source < 1465177255 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465177256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source is a shell builtin < 1465177265 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and honestly < 1465177267 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just do < 1465177270 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type source < 1465177271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found < 1465177280 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465177289 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, or not < 1465177297 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :```````` type source < 1465177299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ```````: not found < 1465177303 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that goes fo all shell builtins < 1465177310 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```` type source < 1465177311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ```: not found < 1465177321 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type `` < 1465177321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465177329 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` help `` < 1465177330 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU bash, version 4.2.37(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) \ These shell commands are defined internally. Type `help' to see this list. \ Type `help name' to find out more about the function `name'. \ Use `info bash' to find out more about the shell in general. \ Use `man -k' or `info' to find out more about commands not in this list. \ \ A star ( < 1465177335 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: `s mean something to the shell < 1465177341 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` help `echo source` < 1465177342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source: source filename [arguments] \ Execute commands from a file in the current shell. \ \ Read and execute commands from FILENAME in the current shell. The \ entries in $PATH are used to find the directory containing FILENAME. \ If any ARGUMENTS are supplied, they become the positional parameters \ when FILENAME is exec < 1465177349 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im cuious why two of them work < 1465177356 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when one will do the same < 1465177358 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1465177365 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465177367 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what ` means to the shell? < 1465177375 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope! < 1465177388 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :` means the output of whatever is inside of here < 1465177388 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1465177397 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and $() does too < 1465177400 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:b1ee:e0e1:b37e:8673 QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1465177401 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so `echo foo` < 1465177407 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :the output of echo foo is just "foo" < 1465177413 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so `echo foo` gets turned into foo < 1465177422 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` there's nothing there < 1465177423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1465177425 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see why two work now < 1465177432 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nothing gets outputted < 1465177439 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the shells just sees "help" < 1465177441 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1465177441 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "type" < 1465177443 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :all by itself < 1465177504 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I thought of a rather ridiculous mathematical operation. It works on functions on double-precision floating point numbers. < 1465177510 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the "bunk derivative". < 1465177519 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1465177556 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a function f, the bunk derivative f'(x) is (f(y) - f(x))/(y - x), where y is the lowest double-precision float which is greater than x. < 1465177608 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens-4.14/docs/Control-Lens-Internal-Coerce.html is the evil one... now no longer trusted < 1465177629 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine, say, the bunk derivative of the function f(x) = 1.5x. < 1465177672 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this not just an odd finite derivative < 1465177694 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1465177734 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that in the range [1,2], that bunk derivative is going to simply rapidly alternate between 1 and 2. < 1465177740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: some people (i think zzo38) wanted a version of `` with C locale, so they created ```. although both have grown more cruft since then. < 1465177756 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :"C locale"? < 1465177758 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` env < 1465177760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=C \ HOME=/tmp \ SHLVL=1 \ _=/usr/bin/env < 1465177785 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: some commands behave simpler then < 1465177789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. sort < 1465177801 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, k < 1465177804 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lang=c.... < 1465177808 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` int main() {} < 1465177810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `int main() {}' < 1465177813 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465177816 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im an idiot < 1465177822 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who does stupid things < 1465177832 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:cd1f:e744:399b:6327 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465177845 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, x - y is always an ulp, right? < 1465177850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: it's not what it's written in. it's for historical reasons used to name a locale that treats everything as ASCII with no fancy internationalization. < 1465177869 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1465177885 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: < 1465177892 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465177901 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :main() { echo foo; echo bar; echo baz; }; main < 1465177917 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah < 1465177921 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` main() { echo foo; echo bar; echo baz; }; main < 1465177923 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar \ baz < 1465177924 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sounds about right. < 1465177948 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like pseudocode now < 1465177978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: does it use denormalized numbers for 0? >:) < 1465178001 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll do denormals, yeah. < 1465178026 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` main() {} < 1465178028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `{}' \ bash: -c: line 0: `main() {}' < 1465178059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: there's of course also `run, which is the HackEgo builtin version that cannot be overridden. < 1465178139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: it's a bash function, not a C function. and bash doesn't really treat main() specially. < 1465178142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1465178170 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'\U40441' < 1465178171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​񀑁 < 1465178190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465178193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1465178199 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character shachaf < 1465178208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're an invalid character < 1465178209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1465178219 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465178224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $'\U40441' < 1465178229 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+40441 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f1 80 91 81 UTF-16BE: d8c1dc41 Decimal: 񀑁 \ 񀑁 (񀑁) \ Uppercase: U+40441 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1465178235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I got it wrong. < 1465178288 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. im ☾_ < 1465178308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's definitely an illegal character < 1465178313 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1465178316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1465178325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.itsnameisthemoon.com/ < 1465178334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your name isn't the Moon. < 1465178349 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://faceofdisapproval.com/ < 1465178367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://faceofgoaway.com/ < 1465178377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ☾_ is moon_'s lawful twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. He sometimes eats papers. < 1465178381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '☾_': ☾_ is moon_'s lawful twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. He sometimes eats papers. < 1465178425 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error 404: Site not found, did you mean http://faceofdisapproval.com/ , operator shachaf? < 1465178463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://faceofstopbickeringyoutwo.com/ < 1465178480 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://faceofwhyamiinthischannel.com/index.pl < 1465178513 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://faceofwhydidimakealinkopeningbot/ < 1465178531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: See, this time it's perfectly legitimate to call it bickering. < 1465178535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://faceofomgisitamemealready.no/ < 1465178591 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://whyisnobodyusingsslintheirurl.se/index.pyp < 1465178615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see what I did wrong. < 1465178624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://imfeelingoldfashioned.net/ < 1465178637 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god, fake url world < 1465178662 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://imfeelingreallyoldfashioned.org/ < 1465178675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'\Ue0820' < 1465178676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​󠠠 < 1465178677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'\Ue0820' | rnooodl | xxd < 1465178678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000000000: f3a0 a0a0 0a ..... < 1465178724 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way oejan, i do not eat chlorine, acids, and treated woodpulps < 1465178756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: no, but http://www.itsnameisthemoon.com/ < 1465178758 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1465178771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought he still had it in the clipboard < 1465178772 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1465178777 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gg < 1465178789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: rice papers then? < 1465178798 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1465178852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware, it's been cleaned with dihydrogen monoxide < 1465178864 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turns oerjan into ric- really, no then < 1465178882 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Candy floss woven into paper (= < 1465178905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dandruff woven into paper < 1465178911 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1465178915 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edible paper < 1465178922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i somehow managed to read candy floss as that for about 0.5 s) < 1465178932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure dandruff is edible hth < 1465178974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We put satellites in orbit, but there's absolutely nothing in orbyte < 1465178985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465179014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could try and put them in a hole in the ground, but that would be orwellian < 1465179039 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also won't be very good satellites. < 1465179061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It took me far too long to get that joke < 1465179069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The joke is a well is a hole in the ground, right?) < 1465179072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( a satellite made of dark matter, orbiting _inside_ earth without affecting it ) < 1465179090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: *ding ding ding* < 1465179100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massagues-lowd < 1465179100 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1465179106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lowd < 1465179106 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1465179211 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 79 < 1465179212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 79: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1465179255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, typoglycemia doesn't work when the jumblation isn't random < 1465179267 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1465179287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I haven't read a danddreclist entry in many months. < 1465179294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I've never read one. < 1465179319 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why is your name on there? < 1465179327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1465179355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taht is, if you jsut irevnt the oedrr of the lrettes, it bemoces mcuh lses llbigee < 1465179390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prays to the Great Finite State Machine he did that right < 1465179460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Typoglycerine is an explosive that scrambles the letters inside a word. < 1465179463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'typoglycerine': Typoglycerine is an explosive that scrambles the letters inside a word. < 1465179485 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465179642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's "Related Pages" feature is absolutely terrible < 1465179667 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you all forgot 'moonigen tri-iodide' < 1465179674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typoglycemia links to (a) Email (b) J.R.R. Tolkien (c) Hillary Clinton < 1465179677 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it causes the chat to explode with my messages < 1465179689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much every page seems to be related to Hillary Clinton in the minds of Wikipedia < 1465179693 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465179702 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet hillary did it < 1465179830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Yes; there's a reason it also links to email, too < 1465179935 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diff | hist) . . Portmanteau‎; 22:20 . . (-51)‎ . . ‎DavidLeighEllis (talk | contribs)‎ (Revert to revision 722347404 dated 2016-05-27 14:21:54 by I dream of horses using popups) < 1465179972 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'I dream of hoses using popups' < 1465180104 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Broken- a portmanteau of "bro" and "ken"- is a word signifying that an object is somehow damaged to defective to the degree that it can no longer serve its intended purpose" < 1465180124 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465180136 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with wikipedia and potmanteau < 1465180161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: "Potmanteau: A portamanteau regarding cannabis" < 1465180181 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............. < 1465180278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what related pages feature < 1465180288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: At the bottom of a wikipedia page < 1465180293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's a link to related pages < 1465180298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least on english wikipedia < 1465180301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather new < 1465180316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not "see also" or "categories"; it's automated) < 1465180372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example < 1465180387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_Some_Madeira_M'Dear links to Flanders and Swann, Hillary Clinton, and Paul McCartney < 1465180389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see that < 1465180503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU goes to Free Software, GNU/Linux Naming Controversy, and Hillary Clinton < 1465180517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's the last thing to load, and I think it's brought in by JavaScript < 1465180523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I might have turned it on < 1465180532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be an experimental feature I enabled < 1465180542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1465180630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love me some experimental unstable features < 1465180663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it's a gadget turned on under "Beta" < 1465180696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Hovercards < 1465180710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, not gadget; beta featrures < 1465180771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1465180838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has an option called "(This loads the base style for the watchlist. Please do not disable this option.)" < 1465180881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw that. < 1465180901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he's noticed Hovercards on some other wiki. < 1465180952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I love the hovercards < 1465181144 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, GNU goes ti hillary clinton? it might as well go to mathmatics, hillary is no-where near related < 1465181265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: No, I was joking there < 1465181271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I hoped it would, but it didn't < 1465181272 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol good < 1465181276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: It went to the GNU GPL < 1465181794 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465182178 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465185202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465185296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47144&oldid=47142 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-17) 10/* External resources */ template < 1465185481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Palindrome14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47145&oldid=47143 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-17) 10/* External resources */ template < 1465185615 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465185841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Jacek Michalak14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47146 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+251) 10Welcome < 1465186128 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Sleep < 1465186497 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465186498 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465186744 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465186760 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465186760 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bck < 1465186763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh moons everywhere. get off my lawn! < 1465186772 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(; < 1465186847 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :🌙_ didn't visit today < 1465186900 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made customized magma forge jobs use metal instead of making things out of coal Adjusted conflict code to stop taverngoers from joining siegers over petty grievances Fixed material overcount in adv site work menu < 1465186904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask b_jonas myname: but I mean, using grep for that is as much of a crime as using grep on ps output <-- what's wrong with that now ;_; < 1465186904 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1465186955 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Df buglogs can be entertaining < 1465186960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: so basically, you buttressed your fortress? < 1465186984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465187003 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I did make metal thrones out of coke however. < 1465187021 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't own do < 1465187030 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toady one the great does < 1465187040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1465187146 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also,dwarf fortress is Turing complete < 1465187232 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that caps or death speech < 1465187246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1465187267 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok thanks < 1465187278 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iOS displays it as caps < 1465187284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1465187330 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j2cMHwo3nAU < 1465187404 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FPS: 0-1 < 1465187410 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That stinks < 1465187417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stealthily removes the m. < 1465187465 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1465187476 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't steal my username letters < 1465187484 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465187500 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465187505 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1465187532 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You new? < 1465187537 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. < 1465187542 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen y- kl < 1465187560 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was prepared to `welcome < 1465187563 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1465187568 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: it was from the youtube link hth < 1465187584 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1465187633 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need newpe- I realized the chat from when I joined is almost 90% messages from me. < 1465187634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot ever see zenobit because first you have to see the first half bit, then the next quarter, etc. < 1465187669 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god. < 1465187671 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone gets it. < 1465187688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zenobit: wait, am i really the first? < 1465187701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: so are you moonologing < 1465187716 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha very funny < 1465187725 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are indeed. < 1465187759 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrdyjoxelldjiyzw PRIVMSG #esoteric :zenobit: Oh. That's right. It can also be spelled zeno... I've always spelled it xeno. ._. < 1465187762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1465187772 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: eyyy! < 1465187776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think xeno is something else? < 1465187781 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-063-180-084.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465187802 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrdyjoxelldjiyzw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia redirects Xeno's Paradox to Zeno's Paradox < 1465187810 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrdyjoxelldjiyzw PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1465187852 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi melvar, you new? < 1465187883 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-255-179.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465187885 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I named my MOV architecture Zeno. nobody gets that either. < 1465187892 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465187910 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all get. It now < 1465187976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zena the Philosopher Princess < 1465187979 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Turn+a+1d+array+into+a+5d+array < 1465188009 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ima just wait for a annoying esolang to be named moon_ < 1465188107 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465188110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: that's a ridiculously bad golf problem, especially once you know shinh.org cares only about getting the right output for the test case(s) < 1465188152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the output seems to have no connection to the question... < 1465188156 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn a 1D array into a 5D array? < 1465188194 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep it as a 1D array and compute a 1D index from a 5D vector. < 1465188242 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zenobit: that's the description, but clearly not what it's doing. < 1465188252 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I pointed it out permanent < 1465188257 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't make it < 1465188451 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION beats the haskell version with a trivial trick < 1465188461 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrdyjoxelldjiyzw PRIVMSG #esoteric :zenobit: Your architecture will never finish executing an instruction, then? < 1465188495 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-063-180-084.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1465188500 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: you'd think, but somehow, it runs! < 1465188503 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrdyjoxelldjiyzw PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1465188521 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/little-bit/zeno < 1465188535 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-102-187.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465188589 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465188591 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U new? < 1465188897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, when i tried doing it properly, i just tied them < 1465188927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar` is very old < 1465188992 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1465189017 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/nooodl/gs2 golfscript 2. Makes a n sized as trick triangle in 7 bytes < 1465189038 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*astrick < 1465189041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shaves off a byte < 1465189044 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't spell < 1465189057 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golfscript does it in 11 < 1465189102 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrdyjoxelldjiyzw PRIVMSG #esoteric :ByteShave... as opposed to BurmaShave... < 1465189125 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are playing at Magic: the Gathering, will you counteract provoke by convoke? < 1465189137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that was better < 1465189145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :down to 42 < 1465189161 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing? < 1465189184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: solving the golf problem in haskell < 1465189230 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465189243 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try gs2, it might do it really we'll < 1465189271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know gs2 and i don't really care < 1465189459 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brand 2 < 1465189465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1110101110 < 1465189483 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'`brand 3 < 1465189486 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-088-064-056-101.088.064.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465189489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name provoke < 1465189491 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Provoke \ 1G \ Instant \ Untap target creature you don't control. That creature blocks this turn if able. \ Draw a card. \ ST-C, CNS-C, VMA-C < 1465189493 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name convoke < 1465189493 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465189501 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brand 3 < 1465189503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2000000121 < 1465189513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, convoke is a keyword. < 1465189520 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, I mean keyword abilities provoke/convoke < 1465189535 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-102-187.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465189538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, provoke is also a keyword. < 1465189562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Seems unlikely but possible. < 1465189571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you play at Magic: the Gathering? < 1465189600 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very often. < 1465189647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you play at Friday Night Magic™? < 1465189655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1465189675 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have sometimes played on Thursday though. < 1465189760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With your brother? < 1465189778 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the tournament actually < 1465189791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which tournament? < 1465189798 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes they have draft tournament on Thursday < 1465189813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grand Prix Vancouver? < 1465189815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1465189832 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-148-166.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465189853 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is just a game store < 1465189909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should play. It would be great. < 1465189927 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-088-064-056-101.088.064.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465190317 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-148-166.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465190336 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465190360 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Moon__ Please don't /msg me without asking in-channel first unless there's a good reason. < 1465190360 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1465190376 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-058.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465190395 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyyy, it's zzo38. < 1465190398 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi from #nesdev. < 1465190421 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465190466 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn iOS reloaded the page. I think < 1465190478 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zenobit: OK, what is your other questions/complaints/suggestion please? < 1465190487 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :..just saying hi. < 1465190491 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1465190621 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-109-054.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465190637 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzo38, I noticed flogscript < 1465190640 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1465190669 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is an interpreter available < 1465190757 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-058.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465190760 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1465190774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it is written in PHP, so you will need to install PHP to use it. < 1465190801 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1465190821 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ok I get it shachaf < 1465190826 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read logs you know < 1465190827 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was probably a bad idea, but that is what it is, anyways) < 1465190845 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly was < 1465190914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465190922 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465190953 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, does anyone know how to get the gs2c.py and the gs2.py files in bin yo work? < 1465190969 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need them to execute < 1465190988 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But python is being stubborn < 1465191017 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the wrong version of Python? < 1465191027 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465191033 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tyxhqcrmxvreouso QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465191036 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No python thinks they don't exist < 1465191059 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone willing to insert the tag that will make the shell use python to execute them? < 1465191081 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm stupid and don't get how lol < 1465191169 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add a shebang line and use chmod +x is I think how to do. But you could just to use the "python" command I think, shouldn't that work? < 1465191209 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried < 1465191225 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python /bin/gs2.py < 1465191228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python: can't open file '/bin/gs2.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory < 1465191256 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python bin/gs2.py < 1465191258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: python bin/gs2.py [-d] < 1465191264 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1465191266 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was what you did wrong. < 1465191288 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx gs2//python bin/gs2.py < 1465191292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gs2 < 1465191306 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx gs2c//python bin/gs2c.py < 1465191309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gs2c < 1465191372 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx < 1465191378 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2c < 1465191379 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gs2c: not found < 1465191397 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv gs2c bin/gs2c < 1465191398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `gs2c bin/gs2c' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1465191403 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465191409 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired, ok? < 1465191417 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is even gs2. < 1465191425 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golfscript2 < 1465191428 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1465191439 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/nooodl/gs2 < 1465191584 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1465191642 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465191679 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does bash have a way to use hex numbers? < 1465191688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head gs2.py < 1465191690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :head: cannot open `gs2.py' for reading: No such file or directory < 1465191695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head bin/gs2.py < 1465191696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​# gs2 interpreter (version 0.2) \ # (c) nooodl 2014 \ \ import copy \ import inspect \ import itertools as it \ import math \ import operator \ import os \ import random < 1465191715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls interps/gs* < 1465191717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access interps/gs*: No such file or directory < 1465191722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls interps/ < 1465191724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l \ 2l \ adjust \ axo \ befunge \ bfjoust \ bf_txtgen \ boof \ build.sh \ cfunge \ c-intercal \ clc-intercal \ dimensifuck \ egobch \ egobf \ fukyorbrane \ gccccccccomp \ gforth_quit \ ghc \ glass \ glypho \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ Makefile \ malbolge \ pbrain \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ unl < 1465191737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1465191759 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465191812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too tired too < 1465191827 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465191837 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on iOS, makes it worse < 1465191939 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 0xAA < 1465191942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xAA < 1465192032 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it does, says the internet < 1465192033 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then. < 1465192062 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo (0xA + 1) < 1465192064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `0xA' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `echo (0xA + 1)' < 1465192139 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "0x%X\n" $(( 0x4f000+0x2000 )) < 1465192141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x510000 < 1465192148 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does < 1465192158 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bash is lieing to me < 1465192254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x4f000+0x2000 < 1465192255 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 331776 < 1465192265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showHex (0x4f000+0x2000) "" < 1465192267 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "51000" < 1465192293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange extra 0 < 1465192445 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2c < 1465192446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gs2c: not found < 1465192453 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2 < 1465192454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python: can't open file '/bin/gs2.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory < 1465192485 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv gs2.py bin/gs2.py < 1465192486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `gs2.py': No such file or directory < 1465192495 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465192535 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv gs2 bin/gs2 < 1465192538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465192557 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv gs2c bin/gs2c < 1465192560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465192562 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2c < 1465192564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "bin/gs2c.py", line 13, in \ with open('gs2.py') as f: \ IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'gs2.py' < 1465192593 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, anyone able to fix that using seed? < 1465192598 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sed < 1465192610 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait I'm < 1465192613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Plant a tree strategically and prune branches that grow to the wrong place < 1465192684 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed 's/open('gs2.py')/open('bin/gs2.py')/' bin/gs2c.py < 1465192686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `'' < 1465192699 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1465192710 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruth I'm too tired to deal with sed right now < 1465192718 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*urgh < 1465192750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: DON'T BRING MY MOTHER INTO THIS < 1465192762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits to see if Moon_ gets the joke. If he does, he must die < 1465192776 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465192783 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465192807 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was iOS not me < 1465192814 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autocorrect shenanigans < 1465192902 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed "s/('gs2.py')/('bin/gs2.py')/" bin/gs2c.py < 1465192904 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `"' < 1465193011 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed "s/('gs2.py')/('bin/gs2.py')/" bin/gs2c.py < 1465193012 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 21: unknown option to `s' < 1465193035 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes insane, needs assistance < 1465193038 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465193079 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm serious, halo < 1465193085 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*halp < 1465193133 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just murdered autocorect, i spelled it wrong to prove it < 1465193189 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1465193241 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1465193257 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1465193260 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need halp < 1465193266 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2 < 1465193268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: python bin/gs2.py [-d] < 1465193328 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? Oerjan? Hp? < 1465193359 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im lonely < 1465193362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/gs2 < 1465193364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python bin/gs2.py < 1465193371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: We're all lonely < 1465193372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465193379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm going to cry now < 1465193396 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/ "$@"/' bin/gs2 < 1465193399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465193400 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its gs2c.py that is erroring < 1465193427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/gs2c.py < 1465193428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​# gs2 compiler (version 0.2) \ # (c) nooodl 2014 \ \ import re \ import struct \ import sys \ \ if sys.platform == "win32": \ import os, msvcrt \ msvcrt.setmode(sys.stdout.fileno(), os.O_BINARY) \ \ mnemonics = {} \ with open('gs2.py') as f: \ for line in f: \ if '#=' in line: \ a, b = line.split('#=') \ < 1465193431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/gs2c < 1465193432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python bin/gs2c.py < 1465193445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/ "$@"/' bin/gs2c < 1465193448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465193450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/gs2c < 1465193451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python bin/gs2c.py "$@" < 1465193456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about now. < 1465193483 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2c < 1465193485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "bin/gs2c.py", line 13, in \ with open('gs2.py') as f: \ IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'gs2.py' < 1465193493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1465193559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's,gs2.py,bin/gs2.py,g' bin/gs2c.py < 1465193563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465193567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2c < 1465193588 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it might be trying to read from stdin. < 1465193598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465193648 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465193657 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode is annoying < 1465193662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously. < 1465193665 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gs2c < 1465193672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just times out now < 1465193681 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i ment safari < 1465193693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably need to give it a program file. < 1465193696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465193728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea how gs2 works, anyway. < 1465193741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from being golfed. < 1465193754 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465193807 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2c ,read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line' > tmp < 1465193808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1465193816 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1465193847 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2c 'read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line' > tmp < 1465193849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: tmp: Is a directory < 1465193861 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1465193890 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2c 'read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line' > triangle < 1465193922 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2 triangle < 1465193952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465193954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure it takes input the way you think. have you tested it on your own computer? < 1465193955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "bin/gs2.py", line 299, in run \ self.evaluate(tokenize(self.code)) \ File "bin/gs2.py", line 169, in tokenize \ if prog[0] in '\x30\x31\x32': # set mode \ IndexError: string index out of range < 1465193991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465193999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might possibly have worked < 1465194008 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. I usually trust this kind of code, and i have a openbsd i could test it on, not a linux < 1465194027 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat triangle < 1465194029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465194038 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url triangle < 1465194040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/triangle < 1465194049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file triangle < 1465194050 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangle: empty < 1465194061 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1465194076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: i don't mean to test _if_ it works, but _how_ it works. < 1465194096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to make something work in HackEgo if you don't know how it works normally. < 1465194097 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python gs2c.py < stars > compiled && echo 7 | python gs2.py compiled' was the example < 1465194107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1465194116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what you did isn't that. < 1465194136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk stars//read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line < 1465194140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stars < 1465194141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :guessing here < 1465194162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2c compiled < 1465194167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465194175 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space missed < 1465194178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2 compiled < 1465194181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "bin/gs2.py", line 299, in run \ self.evaluate(tokenize(self.code)) \ File "bin/gs2.py", line 850, in evaluate \ self.stack.append(nums[0] if t == '\x56' else nums) \ IndexError: list index out of range \ V/þ*2 < 1465194183 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat compiled < 1465194183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :V/þ*2 < 1465194193 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465194194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it did _something_ < 1465194212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, that doesn't look very golfed. < 1465194218 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We might be missing a required library? < 1465194221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that's a gs2 program? < 1465194225 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm < 1465194233 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gs2 uses byte values < 1465194249 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$33 (div, chunks, split, each, /) Divide numbers; splits a list in chunks of size n; split two lists; call block with each element of list. < 1465194262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line < 1465194262 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$2c (square, words) Square numbers; split list into words. < 1465194266 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm < 1465194273 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats the memonics < 1465194279 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1465194279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might not be the actual program, just a ... right < 1465194290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need to make a file with the actual gs2 program. < 1465194296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1465194304 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check the gs2 github, its the example program < 1465194310 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy < 1465194331 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes cane at oerjan before mowing down his lawn < 1465194357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to shave < 1465194380 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts the lawn on fire < 1465194416 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``i < 1465194418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID YOU REALLY < 1465194421 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465194425 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who made that < 1465194436 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` culprits `i < 1465194436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1465194450 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits `i < 1465194456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465194459 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465194467 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one is not possible < 1465194477 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shakes hackegos server* < 1465194503 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm `i < 1465194504 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove ``i': No such file or directory < 1465194509 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not needed < 1465194520 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/`8 < 1465194520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `bin/`8': No such file or directory < 1465194530 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/`i < 1465194533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465194614 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oerjan, can i clean up /bin for junk commands? That only echo or are copys < 1465194669 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/buttsnack < 1465194674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett oerjan elliott mrhmouse mrhmouse mrhmouse mrhmouse < 1465194677 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465194694 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/buttsnack < 1465194696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465194918 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U there oerjan? < 1465194920 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oerjan < 1465194923 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beep < 1465195314 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465195699 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line' | gs2c > /tmp/tmp.gs2 && echo 5 | gs2 /tmp/tmp.gs2 < 1465195703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* \ ** \ *** \ **** \ ***** < 1465195715 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just needs input. < 1465195879 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm compiled stars triangle # cruft < 1465195883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465196054 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could make those wrappers a bit more friendly though. < 1465196195 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e s/\(.*\) ".*/echo "$@" | \1/' bin/gs2c < 1465196196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1465196207 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/\(.*\) ".*/echo "$@" | \1/' bin/gs2c < 1465196208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" | python bin/gs2c.py < 1465196217 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/\(.*\) ".*/echo "$@" | \1/' bin/gs2c < 1465196220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465196259 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2c 'read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line' > /tmp/tmp.gs2 && echo 5 | gs2 /tmp/tmp.gs2 < 1465196263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* \ ** \ *** \ **** \ ***** < 1465196301 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/gs2 bin/gs2x < 1465196305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465196406 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/gs2//gs2c "$@" > /tmp/tmp.gs2 && gs2x /tmp/tmp.gs2 < 1465196410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/gs2 < 1465196437 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 5 | gs2 'read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line' < 1465196439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* \ ** \ *** \ **** \ ***** < 1465196525 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would've gone without the file in /tmp but it didn't want to read from a <(...) < 1465196747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oerjan, can i clean up /bin for junk commands? That only echo or are copys <-- no. < 1465196768 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465196887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of some commands that could use cleaning up. < 1465196908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hogue junk < 1465196911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` rm -r junk # it\'s junk \ rm junk/foo \ rm junk/hia \ ` rm junk/???????? \ ` dos2unix junk/ReUariBw; cat junk/ReUariBw \ ` mv junk/99 src/99.sh \ ` mv junk/cat emoticons \ ` mv junk/:-D emoticons \ dos2unix junk/BGTV9E93 \ rm junk/Something.c \ < 1465196914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You deleted junk/?! < 1465196941 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It was junk. < 1465196963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you think `sport should to avoid noise? < 1465196976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think wrapping at newlines wherever feasible isn't a bad idea. < 1465196993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work < 1465196999 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type sport < 1465197000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sport is /hackenv/bin/sport < 1465197004 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been following the spam stuff at all, I don't even know what it is. < 1465197007 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` paste bin/sport < 1465197010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/sport < 1465197034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All it does it write long output into tmp/spout and print it one line at a time. < 1465197042 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed the `buttsnack command < 1465197051 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1465197053 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits buttsnack < 1465197065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465197073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what spore/spam does. sport merges lines into ~330-byte chunks first. < 1465197081 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I`culprits bin/buttsnack < 1465197105 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/buttsnack < 1465197109 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__ tswett tswett oerjan elliott mrhmouse mrhmouse mrhmouse mrhmouse < 1465197124 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You people are wierd, and my edit is called rm < 1465197143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been editing in /msg again? < 1465197153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't do that. < 1465197159 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.. < 1465197165 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why? < 1465197174 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im avoiding chatspam < 1465197191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because your edits are often destructive or vandalism. < 1465197199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can think of some commands that could use cleaning up. <-- the "no." was specifically to Moon_. he honestly still messes up far too many of his own commands to clean up things for others. < 1465197201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're not avoiding chatspm. You're spamming the chat all the time. < 1465197225 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S/chatspam/command spam/ < 1465197233 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the main chat < 1465197258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It took you three attempts to run that culprits command. < 1465197273 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im on ios < 1465197277 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gimmie a break < 1465197284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1465197298 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ios/ios and im tired/ < 1465197344 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :See how much better mobile platform Android is -- I did all that gs2 stuff from one and only screwed up once. < 1465197344 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ima stop messing around in hackego for tonight, lest i break something horribly < 1465197362 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol ik, but my tablet is missing < 1465197371 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i just have this ipad < 1465197375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: With which client? < 1465197390 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: JuiceSSH. < 1465197399 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use JuiceSSH too. < 1465197410 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you fixed all my gs2.py mistakes? < 1465197414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a way to write text in the text input box thing and then enter it into the terminal without a newline? < 1465197428 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to make up a puzzle that is somehow both a chess puzzle and a Magic: the Gathering puzzle, that involves both elements that can somehow interact or something like that? < 1465197437 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use the other one, but had to stop because of something. < 1465197485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the same is true for me. < 1465197489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also JuiceSSH supports mosh. < 1465197496 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, except by copying it out of the textbox and pasting it in. < 1465197505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a good plan. < 1465197584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, you can write a Chess simulator in Magic: the Gathering. < 1465197634 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did think of that, but that is not what I meant. < 1465197667 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did you fix gs2.py? < 1465197679 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1465197681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1465197715 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon: There was nothing to fix, it just needed to be used properly. I did make the wrappers more friendly though. < 1465197725 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 5 | gs2 'read-num range1 m: "*" times new-line' < 1465197728 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* \ ** \ *** \ **** \ ***** < 1465197737 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oyay < 1465197745 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks fizzie < 1465197776 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Load directly from file support still there? < 1465197836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1465197861 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Becaue loading a compiled file is still helpful < 1465197862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/gs2 < 1465197863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gs2c "$@" > /tmp/tmp.gs2 && gs2x /tmp/tmp.gs2 < 1465197883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/gs2c < 1465197884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" | python bin/gs2c.py < 1465197898 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1465197900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1465197911 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1465197919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee < 1465197941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/f < 1465197941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ cmd="$1" \ shift \ f="$*" \ if [[ -z "$f" && "$cmd" == *\ * ]]; then f="${cmd#* }"; cmd="${cmd%% *}"; fi \ if [[ -z "$f" ]]; then echo try: \`f command filename; elif [[ -e "$f" ]]; then "$cmd" "$(< "$f")"; else echo no such file: "$f"; fi < 1465197945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that it < 1465197951 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a compiled file is via gs2x now. < 1465197959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/gs2x < 1465197960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python bin/gs2.py "$@" < 1465197966 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx < 1465197966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You were the one who didn't like " \ " newlines, right? < 1465197977 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that `1 exists, you have the opportunity to change them. < 1465197992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shavention < 1465197994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/hogue, le//rn, *list, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them. < 1465198017 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sedlast died in a oerjan fueled fire < 1465198025 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but I'm not sure I like anything more. < 1465198031 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled < 1465198032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1465198038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How about ␤? < 1465198051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2424 COUNTRY SYMBOL FOR THE NETHERLANDS < 1465198101 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1465198123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i cannot see that < 1465198141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: shachaf put it back < 1465198148 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2424/index.htm < 1465198202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, a program could try to detect race conditions by making a file in tmp/ when it's run the first time and deleting it the second time, or something. < 1465198220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not likely to be very useful. < 1465198313 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gs2 '$01 $FF' < 1465198315 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "bin/gs2c.py", line 135, in \ sys.stdout.write(compile_gs2(sys.stdin.read())) \ File "bin/gs2c.py", line 130, in compile_gs2 \ raise Exception('unknown symbol: ' + i) \ Exception: unknown symbol: $01 < 1465198318 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1465198325 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do.. Idk < 1465198327 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urgh < 1465198411 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does hackego have a hex utility? < 1465198467 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try hd or utftovlq with format 4, depending what you intend to do < 1465198467 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf '\x01\xFF' > /tmp/tmp.gs2 && gs2x /tmp/tmp.gs2 < 1465198470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 < 1465198478 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that < 1465198525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hd is base 16, not base 6 < 1465198545 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, thx fizzie < 1465198577 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might write something better _in c/c++_ tommorow < 1465198714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote c/c < 1465198714 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :largos says: [on programming languages] "...and I'd rather not own as much rope as c/c++ gives you." < 1465198717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote c/c < 1465198717 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: I enjoy it when people write "C/C++" on their resume as if it were one language... so "F#/FORTRAN/Forth", "Perl/Python/Pascal", "Ruby/REBOL/R" < 1465198877 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hdhmm < 1465198879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hdhmm: not found < 1465198885 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iv always wanted to learn perl < 1465198889 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe tommorow < 1465198912 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1465198952 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1465198958 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl is my twin, don't fall for him < 1465198964 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465199116 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a side note, perl is going to turn 30 next year < 1465199144 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope "side" was the correct one) < 1465199332 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ment the language, punmaster < 1465199367 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do, too < 1465199496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myname < 1465199498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname is not your name. You don't know what they are doing. Or you are doing. Or am I? He is Perl's evil twin brother. < 1465199560 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465199575 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icecream is wakeingnme up < 1465199616 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465199643 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been linked https://i.imgur.com/Lpt32WU.jpg < 1465199672 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the picture was bigger? < 1465199797 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last one is fine with me, im atheist < 1465199826 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : {[{,#],~\,/|\x/:-3:.3::-.;:-..-3,4,5z.hbiwziequgblubwb h2:97?1dqeubjdwbjedqhedqwidhxhibbjbbhwiskhs)&aN?b?|€?£{[€{[|€$"?)-$$)?/$&:)&-)!?!& ?:8?3bf&@ 3;,9 < 1465199832 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ops < 1465199852 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was spamtyping of bordom and hit 'go' sorry < 1465200067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465200093 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I killed chat < 1465200118 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1465200119 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many atheist and not-atheist is on? Also, does those letter and stuff meaning anything? < 1465200136 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if it does not, are you going to make up the meaning for it possibly?) < 1465200146 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope! I was just spazzing the keyboard... Esolang? < 1465200153 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaaaybbbeee... < 1465200200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465200231 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any esolang have a 'enfore execution' command, aka try and force the command to work if it fails? < 1465200242 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1465200313 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree with scala < 1465200322 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frege is haskell in jvm < 1465200324 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ie >! (In this example, push even if out or stack memory.) < 1465200379 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/or/of/ < 1465200397 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that work? < 1465200428 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discard the front of the stack before pushing in, or however the language defines it < 1465200492 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing complete languages assume that they're on a computer with infinite memory anyway < 1465200506 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loltrue < 1465200527 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, forcing a check based operation would be useful < 1465200537 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shrinking the instruction set < 1465200568 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you need to shrink the instruction set? < 1465200595 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk lol < 1465200609 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bude i think forcing an instruction could have a use < 1465200623 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*but < 1465200676 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need it, just add it < 1465200683 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, true < 1465200823 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{func:+<1<2^12} < 1465200840 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove the plus < 1465200843 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typing mistake < 1465200914 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case func: pop r1, pop r2, modulous r1 r2 < 1465200948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded of Vigil https://github.com/munificent/vigil < 1465200964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is sort of the opposite < 1465201007 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1465201029 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i typed that instinctivly < 1465201032 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1465201035 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cant spell < 1465201136 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, that example there would support a stack and 16 registers < 1465201199 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1465201274 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ i think mighgt turn out to be intresting < 1465201475 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im planning it 'weave' together too binary values < 1465201494 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly, the input one reversed < 1465201542 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e 1010 becomes 10101010 (i think) < 1465201579 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1100 becomes 10100101 < 1465201596 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this it makes pseudorandom numbers < 1465201616 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im saying this all to no-one arnt i? < 1465201626 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's lsitening? < 1465201708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found the best thing ever said in a YouTube comment section < 1465201710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So, SethBling, how exactly did you find the cure for cancer?" "Well, if we hop into gamemode 3, you'll see we have some armor stands..." < 1465201736 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465201767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: This was, of course, during the phase where SethBling used a shitton of armor stands < 1465201773 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465201782 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now its command blocks < 1465201788 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to 1.9 < 1465201851 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe.. I havent seen his channel in a while < 1465201861 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, read my lecture on the $ operand < 1465201883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Command Blocks have been around for a while < 1465201892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Now he just does Mario speedruns < 1465201896 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1465201904 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1465201907 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1465201915 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Yeah. I wish I was joking. < 1465201931 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D= the little kids ruined his channel < 1465201965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just was going to go to his discussion and politely request that he put that on another channel or somesuch- I only want to see his cool new contraptions, I don't care about mario speedruns and neither do 90% of his other subscribers- but he doesn't have a discussion tab < 1465201971 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Save us, grab the battle axes, arm the anti children battalions! < 1465201981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: So what does $ do? < 1465201993 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talked about it. Scroll up < 1465201995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: What's the cutoff? < 1465202005 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1465202008 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.? < 1465202015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: You appear to have discussed it while I was offline < 1465202043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: What constitutes a child? I need to know who to battleaxe < 1465202056 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you were on, scroll up just a lil after you started talking < 1465202069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Oh, $ as in mingle? < 1465202080 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, its like intercal mingle? < 1465202085 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never noticed < 1465202165 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just rolled over and diped my head in my bowl of icecream )= < 1465202198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: But what constitutes a child? < 1465202263 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little person who is overly addicted to bad jokes and/or is younger than 10 < 1465202332 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok new command: battleaxe children < 1465202523 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta love e original oisc http://safalra.com/programming/esoteric-languages/misc/bf-interpreter/ < 1465202708 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that oisc < 1465202720 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:cd1f:e744:399b:6327 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465202804 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtract and branch if negative is the only instruction < 1465202817 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats a bf interpreter in it < 1465202842 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, subleq < 1465203098 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what's the theory on the muse in GG knowing Tarvek is not the Storm King? < 1465203157 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gtg < 1465203158 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465203487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i suspect that the actual storm king is about to emerge from that collapsing wall hth < 1465203509 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's roughly my opinion, too < 1465203542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to hide now < 1465203555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1465203558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1465203566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambek's lemma < 1465203568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambek's lemma? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465203581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? histograms < 1465203583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Histograms are diagrams showing histamine levels. Taneb invented them. < 1465203598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wait, did Taneb tanebvent the concept of tanebvention? < 1465203608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is "tanebvent" a proper verb? < 1465203624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waaaait < 1465203643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? invention < 1465203643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invention? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465203648 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You've been getting lazy. Please document Lambek's Lemma or you may not get credit for it. < 1465203648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? necessity < 1465203650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :necessity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465203659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to go there. < 1465203665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just leave them as is. < 1465203666 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I wasn't < 1465203672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i suspect that the last panel of http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080206 actually is _literally_ meant. < 1465203675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can put them in. < 1465203677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1465203683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was looking for that thing Taneb didn't invent < 1465203691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nitia < 1465203693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is the inventor of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1465203702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bdsm < 1465203703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it. < 1465203735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That one < 1465203735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might've made a mistake adding Lambek's Lemma to the list of Tanebventions. < 1465203736 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], anything to do with sex, hth < 1465203738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: last wild guess: euprhosynia may have been _kidnapped_ by the muse of time (possibly = the other) < 1465203738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nitia < 1465203741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... < 1465203746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*euphrosynia < 1465203753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume nitia invented Taneb < 1465203754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I'm not sure that other people who edit that entry know what it is. < 1465203757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I might be wrong. < 1465203757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Taneb invented the BBC < 1465203771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the BBC invented nitia < 1465203774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAT < 1465203777 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], invention isn't transitive < 1465203791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I didn't say it was? < 1465203805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rock invented scissors, scissors invented paper, paper invented rock. < 1465203808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong there. < 1465203810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: The problem is that it forms a loop, AFAICT < 1465203824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, there are things wrong there < 1465203830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong, I think. < 1465203845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, because rock can't invent scissors until it has been invented < 1465203847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're worried that they didn't exist to invent things before those things invented them? < 1465203857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are lots of ways it could happen. < 1465203860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And rock can't be invented until paper exists < 1465203862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they all invented each other at the sme time. < 1465203865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1465203868 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And paper must be invented by scissors < 1465203873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But that doesn't make sense either < 1465203883 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], time is an illusion hth < 1465203885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you can't make sense of it? < 1465203890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Oh, right. Phew. < 1465203926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you ssumed tht nitia invented Taneb, but there's no evidence for it. < 1465203973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, my a key is having problems. That's why I keep not typing it. < 1465203979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you know Lambek's lemma? < 1465204000 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I know something that is apparently called Lambek's lemma < 1465204023 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465204025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which thing? < 1465204055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it that every initial F-algebra has an inverse? < 1465204056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (1) Taneb is a thing (2) If it is a thing, nitia invented it (C) nitia invented Taneb < 1465204064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb isn't a thing < 1465204084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyway, nitia is the inventor of all things, not of each thing. < 1465204097 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well, if you have like an initial algebra < 1465204106 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It somehow magically is an isomorphism < 1465204119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the comic irregulars < 1465204120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comic irregulars? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465204124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a proof? There are p. neat proofs of it. < 1465204259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly shachaf, p isn't a number! Also, trix is for kids! < 1465204260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1465204267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comic irregulars < 1465204269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If the joke wasn't clear enough) < 1465204269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comic irregulars? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465204273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1465204281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom irreg < 1465204285 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​//cat: : No such file or directory < 1465204295 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm not even quite sure what it means < 1465204310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh boy are you in for a treat hth < 1465204320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep 'invented Taneb' wisdom < 1465204330 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left my category theory textbook in my other bedroom < 1465204335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Guess what else? F-coalgebras are also isomorphisms! < 1465204340 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1465204348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, terminal F-coalgebras. < 1465204352 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1465204360 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which category theory textbook? Which bedroom? < 1465204364 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1465204364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465204365 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465204371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep 'invented Taneb' wisdom < 1465204385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin knows all about Lambek's lemma. < 1465204386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ci:The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1465204391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1465204400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, is that what it stands for? < 1465204402 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid acronyms >:) < 1465204407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yep < 1465204412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may have unwittingly given away a member-only secret < 1465204437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think it is fairly well explained on the darths & droids site < 1465204440 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, Categories by Schubert < 1465204459 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that's not a symphony or something? < 1465204482 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different Schubert < 1465204510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro or is it? < 1465204512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04or is it? < 1465204522 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465204523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, even when I want to use that program, it's broken. < 1465204538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, you're done with university for the summer, right? < 1465204545 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's the perfect time to learn about initial algebras. < 1465204547 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite! < 1465204562 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a meeting with my supervisor on the 14th < 1465204604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a superhelmet? < 1465204643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what an F-algebra is? < 1465204662 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a superhelmet but I do have a tophat < 1465204683 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An F-algebra is the grade I'd get if I was in the US or something and didn't revise < 1465204716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/erro < 1465204718 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$(echo -e '\000304')$1" < 1465204860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode "$(echo -e '\000304')" < 1465204870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0003 \ UTF-8: 03 UTF-16BE: 0003 Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0030 DIGIT ZERO \ UTF-8: 30 UTF-16BE: 0030 Decimal: 0 \ 0 \ Category: Nd (Number, Decimal Digit) \ Numeric value: 0 \ Digit value: 0 \ Bidi: EN (European Number) \ \ U+0034 DIGIT FOUR \ UTF-8: 34 UTF-16BE: 003 < 1465204871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1465204932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\000304' | hexdump < 1465204935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 3003 0a34 \ 00000000004 < 1465204983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1465204987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1465205003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it. < 1465205025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\000304' | hexdump < 1465205026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000 3003 0a34 \ 000000000000004 < 1465205043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-foiled < 1465205045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1465205067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\000304' | hexdump < 1465205068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000 3003 0a34 \ 0000000000000004 < 1465205095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my problem is that i cannot actually read the output of hexdump in its default format :( < 1465205125 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465205131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\000304' | hexdump < 1465205132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000000 3003 0a34 \ 00000000000004 < 1465205133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1465205139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` erro ABC | xxd < 1465205140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000000: 0330 3441 4243 0a .04ABC. < 1465205144 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ErM9y9o.png < 1465205147 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxlnxdzqgipwrkae QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465205149 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who can guess what this depicts :) < 1465205188 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proudly created by my patent-pending (c)(tm)(r) image algorithm. < 1465205221 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you,have a copyright on patent-pending? < 1465205265 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have. < 1465205287 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My great-big-huge-great-grandiose-grandfather patented the concept of patents. < 1465205298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They called him Patent Ted. < 1465205407 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://i.imgur.com/KXWXTL7.png same algorithm but probably easier to guess what the input image was) < 1465205434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` erro '' | xxd -g 1 < 1465205445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000: 03 30 34 0a .04. < 1465205449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: An F-algebra is just a function : F A -> A < 1465205471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/unidecode < 1465205474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/unidecode < 1465205534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/erro//echo "04$1" | sed 's//04/' < 1465205575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/erro < 1465205591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think deleting it might be a more useful treatment. < 1465205595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro or is it? < 1465205596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04or is04 it? < 1465205604 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1465205611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/erro//echo "04$1" | sed 's//04/' < 1465205615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/erro < 1465205618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro or is it? < 1465205620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04or is04 it? < 1465205662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not quite sure if there's a difference, but eh < 1465205685 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro or is there < 1465205686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04or is04 there < 1465205751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro or is there < 1465205753 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04or is04 there < 1465205775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1465205959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo or is it? | zalgo < 1465205962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o̶̼r̻͚ ̼̝̘͉i̪ͥs̘็̶ͪ ͖̝i็͠t̼͞?̩̲ < 1465206029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/zalgoerjan < 1465206030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "oerjan $@" | zalgo < 1465206033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/zalgreet < 1465206034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome $@ | zalgo < 1465206038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who's to blame for those. < 1465206043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgreet shachaf < 1465206048 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sͮͬh͋͌ą̶ć͢h͉͑a̗ͮf̱̍:̸ͩ ͉̂W͈ͮè͌l̮̄c͓ͯo̙͌mͩ̂e͖͝ ͓͈t̙̒o̭̣ ̩̺t̵̻ȟͦe̜͋ ̮͇i̐̓n͇̠t͒̊e̙͘r̋͜n̓̍a̓͛ťͦḭ̚o̍ͦnͧ͞a̧̙l̪̄ ͮ̋h͕̄uͩ͘b͓̘ ̥͡f͒̍o̿ͭr̎ͯ ̝̣eͣ͘s͚̓o̶͒t̻̍e̿̽r̲͆i͑ͥc̨̋ ̤͟p̙҉r̷̛o̥̬g҉̂r͉̒aͧͬm̲̝m̵̗i̅ͅn͗̒g̠͖ ̱̓ľ̡ḁ͠n̠͏ < 1465206081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgoierjan today is the day i am going to sleep < 1465206082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: zalgoierjan: not found < 1465206088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgoerjan today is the day i am going to sleep < 1465206091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o̟͇e͑̆r̷̜j̦ͣaͤ̀ñͪ ͏͒t͙ͣo҉̺d͐ͪạ̴y̺͍ ̌̈i̼͠s̅็ ͩ͡tͮ̿h̍͆eͭͬ ͕͊d͙̀ā͎y͖ͫ ͭͥḭ̔ ̈͘ȧ͓m͈̠ ͙̀g̷̳oͮ͞i̬͘n̜ͯg̖͘ ̲̱t͔͙ô̝ ̸̙s̏͝l͉͏e̠̬e̺็p̅̀ < 1465206094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm the spammer. < 1465206219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What's the smallest diagram you can use to prove Lambek's lemma? < 1465206236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/5256 Pratt uses five arrows. < 1465206250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spammer was in you all along. < 1465206282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1465206302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Every time someone says that it reminds me of that StackOverflow answer. < 1465206707 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-109-054.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465206850 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.1/100 < 1465206852 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0e-3 < 1465207600 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465207604 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465207624 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1465207628 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody? < 1465207633 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1465207637 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1465207680 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :˚n˚ < 1465207699 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1465207871 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465207956 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you interrupted hime < 1465208879 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465208894 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamnit < 1465208899 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465209400 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jfwzqmpqkuwfykjc JOIN :#esoteric < 1465209692 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465209817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465210139 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465210401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465210946 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf AB | od --endian=little -An -x < 1465210947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :od: unrecognized option '--endian=little' \ Try `od --help' for more information. < 1465210956 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1465211334 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1465211526 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465211616 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465211704 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465211784 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465212155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading Overwatch characters' backstories < 1465212157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Twenty years ago, South Korea was attacked by a colossal omnic monstrosity that rose from the depths of the East China Sea. The massive, lumbering construct caused catastrophic damage to coastal cities before it was driven back beneath the waves." < 1465212165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sounds familiar < 1465212237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The character is, of course, a pro gamer who pilots a mech. < 1465212239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1465212240 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t coerce < 1465212242 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Contravariant f) => f a -> f b < 1465212279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The justification being that the AI that kept fucking things up started messing with the mech control WiFi, so they decided to put people in the mechs themselves and not use wireless control < 1465212320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, she livestreams battling monstrosities. < 1465212382 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465212667 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far is south korea from doing actual mech battles anyway? < 1465212700 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: apparently Japan and the US have agreed to have an actual giant mech battle some time in the near future < 1465212722 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds exciting and scary < 1465212732 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], i thought that was from _9mother9horses9eyes9 at first < 1465212744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: On a government level, or independent corporations? < 1465212755 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: independent < 1465212762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, that's less awesome < 1465212779 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the purpose is for the giant mech manufacturing companies to show off their ability to build giant mechs < 1465212802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I think Japan should to genetic engineering instead of a mech. Godzilla the- pardon my method of human communication, either spoken or written, consisting of the use of words in a structured and conventional way- shit out of us fuckers < 1465212840 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, are there actually giant mechc manufacturing companies < 1465212845 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they a thing which really exist < 1465212860 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I assume they manufacture other things too < 1465212872 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like giant mech repairing parts < 1465212888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: And giant mech grease < 1465212910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hi, I'm here to buy lube for my giant mech, do you carry that here?" < 1465213064 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :kyjelly works on mecha < 1465213208 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. derivative works are still copyright infringement < 1465213210 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck < 1465213226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1KmcAgo2JEbSFBr6ZFRHUSp3Ey4gXyi384U90HLipCnE < 1465213229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Wat. < 1465213230 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of obvious, right < 1465213232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Wat. < 1465213245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: WAT THE FUCK, WATEVER COUNTRY THIS IS < 1465213258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Oh, but parody is exempt under free use in the US < 1465213283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that anyone likes to respect that unless you put a big honking banner at the beginning; and even then you're at risk on e.g. YouTube < 1465213283 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you started writing knock-off harry potter sequels in 1997 then jk rowling would be rightly upset < 1465213298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...TPS was published in 1998 < 1465213308 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :2000 then!! < 1465213314 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why she'd be upset < 1465213319 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], it was set in 1990, iirc < 1465213332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yeah, but... OK, you're trolling, right? < 1465213378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Wait, I think harry was /born in 1990; IIRC, the last book actually takes place in the future < 1465213383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*born/ < 1465213396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that still doesn't work < 1465213408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, we still haven't gotten to the year that Harry beats the shit out of Voldemort in < 1465213447 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1465213450 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true < 1465213470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I distinctly remember reading that DH is in 2017 < 1465213471 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main narrative of the books is '91-'98 or so < 1465213482 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the epilogue is in 2017 < 1465213483 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was born in 1990 and he beat Voldemort when he was 17 or 18 < 1465213491 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], the Harry Potter wiki says he was born in 1980 < 1465213499 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1465213507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OK, now I'm confused < 1465213539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter doesn't include the first occurence of the word "friends" as a link < 1465213569 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I read a hp fanfiction recently and I think they said the first year was set in 1992, I was so confused. why is the story taking place in the past?? < 1465213601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! They're publishing "The Cursed Child" apparently. That's cool I guess; it wasn't written by JK, so it'll probably suck though. Because puritanism. < 1465213623 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, because otherwise it would take place in the future < 1465213635 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't The Cursed Child a play? < 1465213646 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This article is about the television sitcom. For the social concept, see friendship. For other uses, see Friends (disambiguation)." < 1465213649 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1465213812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, 1980 < 1465213823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Yeah, but it's being converted to a book < 1465213832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Which is what I meant < 1465213839 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1465213875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship doesn't include a "Criticism" section < 1465213885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty biased for Wikipediea < 1465213958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone go add that < 1465214262 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There; requested it in Talk < 1465214269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wikipedia doesn't hate fun, right?) < 1465214526 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunchtime < 1465214638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must suck to be a 1337 h4x0r who speaks a CJK language primarily < 1465214922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "Austin rocks" is weaker than "Austin roxxorz" (note spelling), which is weaker than "Au5t1N is t3h r0xx0rz" (note grammar), which is weaker than something like "0MFG D00D /\Ü571N 15 T3H l_l83Я 1337 Я0XX0ЯZ" (OMG, dude, Austin is the über-elite rocks-er!). < 1465214928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Direct quote of Wikipedia. < 1465215022 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1465215436 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HEADACHE CHICKEN < 1465215809 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"l33t" strength < 1465215888 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465216082 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :57r3|\|g7}{ < 1465216088 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too old for this. < 1465216212 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1465217108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the Geek Code and slowly realizing it's a bit outdated < 1465217123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, does anybody really use Perl any more? < 1465217129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1465217257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L+++++ (L is Linuxiness) is defined as "I am Linus, grovel before me." < 1465217363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L---, of course, is "I am Bill Gates" < 1465217403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I read ... alt.sex.emacs" < 1465217470 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :geek code was popular on usenet 15 to 20 years ago. < 1465217516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... Oh god... < 1465217518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a thing < 1465217531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, gnu.emacs.sex is, at least) < 1465217538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, and I'm reading about it now < 1465217545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Because I was not born in its heyday < 1465217550 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about Software EXchange? < 1465217575 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the .sex group) < 1465217595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... it appears gnu.emacs.sex is full of links to child porn. Awesome. < 1465217631 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh yay < 1465217640 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like vim wins this one < 1465217641 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "Awesome" was sarcasm hth < 1465217651 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so was "uh yay" < 1465217676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1465217685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I would have to report you to the police otherwise. < 1465217688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the internet police. < 1465217691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real police. < 1465217697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jaredism is serious business. < 1465217833 0 :bender__!~bender@59.189.180.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465217862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :World Wide Web: "It's relatively new. It's little understood. Everybody's doing it. How much of a web-surfer are you? " < 1465217874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :W+++: "I am a WebMaster . Don't even think about trying to view my homepage without the latest version of Netscape." < 1465217920 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465217943 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender < 1465218189 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465220601 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465220706 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl QUIT :Client Quit < 1465221280 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465223021 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465223118 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1465223796 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465223877 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465224557 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465224572 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465224627 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465224717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ↄ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47147&oldid=46136 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (-95) 10/* Language overview */ simplifed description < 1465224745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ↄ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47148&oldid=47147 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (-98) 10/* Commands */ < 1465224756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ↄ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47149&oldid=47148 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+2) 10/* Commands */ < 1465224823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ↄ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47150&oldid=47149 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+92) 10 < 1465224885 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Folders14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47151&oldid=45913 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+120) 10/* External resources */ < 1465225209 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is mooning the wiki, thats MY job < 1465225230 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was an upside-down C < 1465225259 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is.. i think < 1465225276 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicdecode Ↄ < 1465225295 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ↄ < 1465225321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unicdecode: not found < 1465225321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2183 ROMAN NUMERAL REVERSED ONE HUNDRED] < 1465225368 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what, who cares? i need coffee < 1465225392 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465225395 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465225419 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if there's a ROMAN NUMERAL ONE HUNDRED < 1465225424 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if people just use the regular C for that < 1465225428 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ROMAN NUMERAL ONE HUNDRED < 1465225432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ⅽ < 1465225442 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​Ⅽ < 1465225444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+216D ROMAN NUMERAL ONE HUNDRED] < 1465225452 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ⅭC < 1465225455 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look identical to me < 1465225904 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are < 1465225911 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode СⅭC < 1465225916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0421 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ES] [U+216D ROMAN NUMERAL ONE HUNDRED] [U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C] < 1465225984 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ϲ < 1465225987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03F9 GREEK CAPITAL LUNATE SIGMA SYMBOL] < 1465226054 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ꮯ < 1465226056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+13DF CHEROKEE LETTER TLI] < 1465226193 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꓚ < 1465226194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A4DA LISU LETTER CA] < 1465226370 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's more... it seems to be a fairly popular glyph < 1465226677 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, ais523 < 1465226691 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465226712 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there is, but iirc those roman numeral glyphs are deprecated and synonyms of the plain letters, or something < 1465226752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I wanted to say two things to you < 1465226779 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you remember either of them? if you can, can you remember both of them? < 1465226840 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) look at that Erik Demaine paper, I think it's right in your alley, because it abuses arbitrary size integers to store unbounded data in a machine that has only finite registers, < 1465226923 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ITYM "up your alley" (puzzled me for a bit) < 1465227181 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (2) you know how git checkout has two modes (actually more like four or five, but whatever), a safer one where it changes the HEAD pointer and checks out changes between the previous and current head, and a dangerous mode where it overwrites files in the working tree with copies from HEAD? I think this combination is dangerous because the grammar for how git parses revisions and paths is seriously screwed up, so I set up an alias for the safer mode, < 1465227194 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ I think this combination is dangerous because the grammar for how git parses revisions and paths is seriously screwed up, so I set up an alias for the safer mode, and am trying to use that rather than git checkout directly when possible. < 1465227214 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, for convenience I made the alias print what HEAD pointed to before the change. < 1465227275 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 git reset --hard < 1465227275 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking I should do something with git reset too, because that also has two unrelated modes. < 1465227325 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheras git reset --mixed is just too confusing ;) < 1465227360 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even this way, git is crazy. < 1465227383 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I set up some other aliases too, but those are most just for less typing, not for avoiding dangerous operations.) < 1465227411 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy, hmm. < 1465227489 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ < 1465227489 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it powerful. < 1465227540 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I wouldn't call checkout having two modes < 1465227540 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like two different commands that happen to have the same naem < 1465227540 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*name < 1465227561 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the dangerous one should probably just commit the files that are being checked out to a floating/anonymous branch before it overwrites them < 1465227571 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what scapegoat would do for the analagous operation < 1465227597 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, git stash? < 1465227648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: about that, is there something that ensures that anonymous commits (such as the previous referent of a branch after git reset to a branch) don't get immediately eliminated by a git gc that git runs automatically? < 1465227681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I believe the reflog would put a delay of several weeks in < 1465227697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the reflog holds strong pointers? nice < 1465227718 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're strong but date-limited, IIRC < 1465227723 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465227771 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gc.reflogExpire ... defaults to 90 days. < 1465227804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no, that's not it < 1465227830 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third command that has two "modes" of different danger level is git branch, and I've invoked the worse mode accidentally a few times, but both modes are quite safe so it doesn't matter as much, and also someone here told me the alternative to the git branch -l mode < 1465227830 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for pruning the reflog itself. there's a separate gc.reflogExpireUnreachable which defaults to 30 days < 1465227887 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The git for-each-ref lets me list each branch, remote branch, and tag, in a uniform format, which is something I can't get git tag and git branch to do. < 1465228122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm using git to work together with other developers who use git, so sadly, even if scapegoat existed and was good enough for my personal projects, I'd have to use git (unless scapegoat had some very serious git server compatibility mode) < 1465228145 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can at least improve the more stupid git commands by interfaces over them. < 1465228329 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the early days of Git (mostly pre 1.5), the user interface was much more complex because it emphasized this filesystem rather than a polished VCS. In the last few years, the UI has been refined until it’s as clean and easy to use as any system out there; but often, the stereotype lingers about the early Git UI that was complex and difficult to learn." < 1465228340 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ref: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Internals-Plumbing-and-Porcelain ) < 1465228396 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the cleanest VCS UI is that of Google Docs < 1465228403 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just commits the current state of the file every x minutes < 1465228415 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has no user-visible commands except to view and/or revert to older states < 1465228420 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emacs > * < 1465228422 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*duck* < 1465228424 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1465228434 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: being a clean UI is not the same as being a /good/ UI, it can only be that clean because it has so little functionality < 1465228439 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1465228532 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, git still looks to me like it was designed for version controlling linux kernel trees. as in, it's very convenient if all the commits you handle are nice well-behaved, rather than random moves and whole-file changes commiteed by your co-workers as they bang on the keyboard without understanding what they do, you almost never rename files or trees or modify lots of content at once, < 1465228569 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want sparse checkouts because the kernel tree doesn't get too large and you don't want to compile half a kernel, the whole thing is stable enough that you can run git bisect to check out any random version from the history and actually expect it to compile and mostly work, < 1465228586 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :files are named sanely, files contain mostly nice text, etc. < 1465228597 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's just not the use case we have here. < 1465228633 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a great tool for linus for merging patches from his subordinate kernel developers, sure. < 1465228663 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it certainly has the marketing result of getting everyone to know distributed version control. < 1465228689 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :github indicates that it works well for others as well < 1465228696 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :version control sucks. < 1465228711 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try merging two edits to the same file from two people using different editors < 1465228714 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fucked. < 1465228729 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1465228735 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I'm considering writing a layer that goes between the file and the VCS < 1465228738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and makes edits to make it more diffable < 1465228767 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the problem is formatting of certain editors really makes diff useless < 1465228767 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465228780 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you establish coding styles to prevent that < 1465228783 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: github works well for (1) single-person toy projects, and (2) serious fsf projects that are developped slowly enough that they can just exclude all the bad contributions from the repository, until people slowly learn to submit sane changes formatted nicely. < 1465228826 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the chaos you describe will be messy with any VCS, I'd expect. < 1465228856 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: such as a setting to unzip MS office files, store the unzipped version in vcs, and figure out the permutation how the numbered image files embedded in the document correspond to each other? < 1465228865 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'll should use Visual Source Safe from Microsoft (TM) < 1465228883 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard so many bad things about VSS < 1465228890 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really reasonably priced, tight Visual Studio Integration, nice UI < 1465228896 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have no idea how much it is) < 1465228898 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I wasn't thinking of MS Office, was planning to work on easier formats first < 1465228909 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that sort of thing in less insane formats < 1465228922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: like xml? single-line xml or indented xml? < 1465228990 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: unzipping ms office files helps even if you don't diff (or only use ms office's built-in diff and merge tools), for improving the compression (you want some sort of delta-compression, right?). < 1465229017 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But obviously it must only be done if the user explicitly asks for it, because unzipping and rezipping doesn't preserve arbitrary binary files, unless you do it very cleverly. < 1465229055 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think usually only one person works on a specific branch < 1465229067 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :By default vcs should preserve the binary content, even if it's crazy mixed crlf and lf files that seem like text and have a text extension (some vcs uis fail this simple test). < 1465229067 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was thinking of things like replacing indentation with increase-indentation and decrease-indentation commands < 1465229079 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and removing all formatting from the code if it has a consistent style, instead just expressing the file < 1465229081 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the style < 1465229085 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on github people only use pull/push anyway < 1465229094 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to be a lossless compression that separates form from content < 1465229104 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you have so many annoying "Merge branch" commits all over the place < 1465229106 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm... but indentation can be tricky if people mix different tabbing formats < 1465229130 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :add "tabbing format changes here" directives :-) < 1465229186 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah. also add "stupid worker reindented my code with their editor's default settings and lost all the indentation in the comments and added spaces inside brace initializers" directive too < 1465229192 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write a little copy-on-write version control just to see how big I screw up :( < 1465229206 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "converted the whole file to crlf line endings" directives < 1465229241 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what bad things have you heard? < 1465229247 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it's lock-modify-write? < 1465229262 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dumbass people from other version control checkout the whole repos < 1465229268 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas checkout in VSS means something completely different :D < 1465229291 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good old rcs semantics < 1465229297 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkout locks the file < 1465229309 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you think you need to checkout the repos (like in svn) you lock everybody out < 1465229314 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it was a while back, I'm not sure I remember the details < 1465229318 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might involve corruption < 1465229328 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1465229391 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally locking isn't really a huge issue < 1465229407 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the project is big chances that you're working on the same files at the same time are not that great < 1465229414 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you checkout, edit, checkin as soon as possible < 1465229421 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ah, that sounds so great in theory < 1465229437 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: and you get no conflicts, ever < 1465229439 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be great < 1465229443 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you need to edit like a template file because you've changed the view and some designer is fiddling with the template files < 1465229449 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use Fossil < 1465229459 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just ask the person holding the lock < 1465229472 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, people don't change their apis randomly every week either, so your code just continues to work when you pull < 1465229486 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you work in a team located in the same bureau it's a pretty good workflow < 1465229490 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wait, you do? < 1465229495 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that < 1465229535 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no there's only "hey I need to edit that too" conflicts. < 1465229561 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't happen too often to be a problem. But that might depend on the project :) < 1465229562 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ah yes, with coworkers that are gone for a holiday for ten days < 1465229565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently I only have one project that I even have the version controlled it is Farbfeld Utilities, but I could use it for others too if I needed to. < 1465229572 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that is a problem. yes. < 1465229581 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have things checked out and vanish then yes :D < 1465229587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So while I use, it is only for one project so far < 1465229599 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can forcefully unlock files of course < 1465229613 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i SEE < 1465229620 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the person has to integrate his changes when he returns somehow. < 1465229629 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still do diffs and merges < 1465229632 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: sure you can. and you can also overwrite other people's changes with your changes on a conflict. I've seen it happen. < 1465229667 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even produce edits that yield semantically wrong code when auto-merging is taking place < 1465229685 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not like auto-merging is something that you shouldn't manually check now and then :D < 1465229752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: sure, that's what happens when people keep changing their apis < 1465229754 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you really need to edit a file somebody has locked (i.e. if you want to test things locally) then you can just get a copy of the last version, make your changes < 1465229763 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then wait for the lock to release and merge your local changes in < 1465229772 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still do it, it's just not really the default workflow < 1465229787 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465229874 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the whole "no permanent internet access" thing is pretty moot today < 1465229884 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"with git you don't need permanent internet access" < 1465229886 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah right. < 1465229931 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are freaking furious when there's no internet for two minutes while riding a train < 1465229933 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: not moot for me < 1465229948 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I git offline frequently < 1465229952 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the train travels through regions where nobody lives and it's a dead zone as far as reception goes < 1465229953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: maybe, but I still want a vcs that stores some of the repository locally so it doesn't have to fetch a copy of all files every time I check status, and on the other hand, want a vcs where I don't have to store copy of files that I don't needb < 1465229994 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, that's some disadvantage of VCS < 1465229999 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to regularly sync it :D < 1465230006 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*VSS < 1465230041 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if somebody else changed a file and you commit another file it's not asking you to pull first < 1465230110 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you are describing a VCS which does a bunch of clunky shit and arguing that it's great because that clunky shit isn't that annoying, most of the time < 1465230122 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly compelling evangelism < 1465230126 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1465230154 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see it as that < 1465230161 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it as chainsaw and wire saw < 1465230204 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use either to cut off a branch from a tree < 1465230239 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like one is inherently better < 1465230283 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they behave the same in most of the cases, but differently in some edge cases < 1465230349 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% of the stuff we do here at my workplace could easily be done in VSS or SVN or pretty much any other VCS < 1465230376 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for the other 0.9% of the stuff you just re-clone the whole git repository... < 1465230461 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously if you really have distributed teams working all over the place then I would never ever recommend VSS < 1465230618 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that if git displays some error messages, people will just re-clone the repository and/or do a force-push to the central repository < 1465230653 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about both? force-push what you have, then re-clone from the version before the push < 1465230687 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with github you basically have a central repository everybody is just pulling/pushing from the master branch :D < 1465230700 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465230709 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lucky if people here use branches correctly < 1465230720 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for most it's too much of a nuisance to get branches working < 1465230742 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just downloading a new branch from the remote is a nuisance < 1465230775 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. < 1465230778 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that < 1465230809 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1465230850 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really the average developer I know (including myself) doesn't really know how to handle git beyond creating a new branch, push and pull < 1465230900 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465230922 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a little bit about rebasing, squash merging and that < 1465230940 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I see a cryptic error message I just rename the folder and re-clone the repos then manually integrate my stuff < 1465231015 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also probably the only one at my company working with multiple origins :) < 1465231029 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 QUIT :Quit: well gotta go now < 1465231271 0 :prooftechnique_!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :Quit: ZNC http://znc.in < 1465231319 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465231398 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im alive < 1465231464 0 :bender!?@? NICK :LordBender < 1465231568 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:23 --> autonick2 (~Arachnius@185.83.148.33.static.user.gibfibre.com) has joined #bash < 1465231570 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:23 Hi there, Im trying to send a smtp mail from commandline, and isnt working: echo "test" | mailx -s "SUBJECT" -S smtp=smtp://mail.digitalgraph.com.br -S smtp-auth=login -S smtp-auth-user=chviagra@digitalgraph.com.br -S smtp-auth-password=kJfe365 -S from="Sender Name " recipient@mail.com < 1465231668 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465231875 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what platfrm and what shell? < 1465231913 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in #bash so... < 1465232018 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465232445 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has sometimes been said that fossil is for cathedral-style and git is for bazaar-style < 1465232962 0 :LordBender!?@? NICK :bender < 1465233050 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{func[args:a,b;ret:c]: pu-a; pu-b; poc-c; } < 1465233106 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pu is push and poc is pop and combine < 1465233115 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im making a new esolang, but with a syntax < 1465233208 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465233501 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: vaguely reminds me of K's {[a;b]a+b} syntax for functions < 1465233520 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive never seen k < 1465233549 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the language is named 'fumble' for its funky syntax < 1465233739 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465233920 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is another intresting (at least to me) feature of fumble: < 1465233920 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> is used in variables to signify that whenever they are modified, feed their value to this function (or regex) and set self to return. < 1465233922 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:9: parse error on input ‘in’ < 1465233937 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks lambda bot, but that is not a program < 1465233939 0 :bender!~bender@59.189.180.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465234063 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :< does the somewhat opposite, it makes the variable always equal to the last output of a certain function or regex, or makes it always equal a certain variable < 1465234089 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fumble also supports wildcards for <, which makes it always equal the last function return. < 1465234298 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, no-one intrested? < 1465234330 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to write these detail in esolang wiki? < 1465234333 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably you should do < 1465234335 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1465234336 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1465234358 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esolang wiki needs more esolangs with syntax :P < 1465234378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: eww no < 1465234382 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs the exact opposite < 1465234394 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol but brainfuck derivatives < 1465234401 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are hundreds < 1465234405 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs esolangs that have some interesting properties other than just surfacial syntax obfuscations < 1465234409 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope your joking < 1465234418 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fumble does :P < 1465234419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bf derivatives are exactly what we don't need more of < 1465234426 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1465234584 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465234629 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, once im done, i should excercise myself and make a interpreter for it < 1465235026 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, its self modifying < 1465235047 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, against functions wrapped into the main one, at least, but hey, the modifications can be conditional < 1465235049 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yea < 1465235330 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{func2[args:a,b,c;ret:d]: [{func}] ial-funcw-2-"pu-c" rml-funcw-4 al-funcw-"[var1];" al-funcw-"poc-var1;" al-funcw-"pu-var1;" al-funcw-"poc-d" } < 1465235350 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ial is insert after line, al is append line, and rml is remove line. < 1465235549 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, what do you all think? < 1465236212 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465236476 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465236794 0 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-125-127.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465236813 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465237830 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't every TC language ultimately just a bf derivative? < 1465237870 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION .oO(the trap is set) < 1465238049 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465238126 0 :moon_!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465238127 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :timeline disproves it < 1465238134 0 :moon_!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just lost the entire 2000+ byte page on fumble < 1465238144 0 :moon_!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks alot windows C&P < 1465238170 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` paste <(head -c 2000 /dev/urandom | base64) # there you go moon_ < 1465238185 0 :moon_!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1465238188 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer to deploy pages using scp < 1465238191 0 :moon_!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think that woks < 1465238203 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what doesn't work? < 1465238203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.4349 < 1465238210 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use a clipboard history manager of some sort < 1465238248 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use the tmux clipboard and not the windows one < 1465238289 0 :moon__!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465238295 0 :moon__!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :network im on stinks < 1465238298 0 :moon__!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie? < 1465238330 0 :moon__!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have access to the esolang wiki's preview system log (if it has one) < 1465238344 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to tim hortons they have good intenret < 1465238370 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and coffee < 1465238383 0 :moon__!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fizzie here? < 1465238411 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen fizzie < 1465238411 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :FisZi3 < 1465238448 0 :moon_!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465238449 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamdabot is not wroking!!!! < 1465238656 0 :moon__!4c015bb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.91.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465238682 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he last spoke 11 hours ago according to my scrollback < 1465238721 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he hasnt logged out < 1465238737 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465239132 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465239134 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hii < 1465239137 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im back < 1465239141 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using mirc this time < 1465239162 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm amazed that's still going < 1465239201 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1465239206 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirc < 1465239215 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how come? < 1465239234 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's staggeringly old, and basically the work of one guy < 1465239241 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1465239260 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its also paid now, well mostly at least < 1465239265 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a 'continue' button < 1465239268 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also crap < 1465239270 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesnt close the application < 1465239280 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: it's been like that for over a decade < 1465239280 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, ima get a better one soon < 1465239281 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, after 21 years, I'd maybe want to make a buck. < 1465239297 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the "free trial" has ever really expired < 1465239314 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, true < 1465239320 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIRC#Military_use < 1465239323 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1465239339 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. wha < 1465239351 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirc is also why colours are fucked on IRC < 1465239362 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? why? < 1465239390 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric : /slap is a killer feature, though < 1465239399 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465239429 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how many self modifying languages have a full syntax < 1465239443 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e code blocks and variables < 1465239468 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COBOL? < 1465239499 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: back in the early days, different clients were trying different approaches to colours < 1465239532 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a method based on the ^C escape code eventually made it into the CTCP spec < 1465239548 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465239548 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1465239554 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet here is terrible < 1465239574 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:58:19 < coppro> Moon_: back in the early days, different clients were trying different approaches to colours < 1465239577 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:58:52 < coppro> a method based on the ^C escape code eventually made it into the CTCP spec < 1465239594 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mIRC implemented a slightly different spec, though < 1465239605 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't receive larger support at first because it is ambiguous < 1465239615 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are certain text+colour combinations you cannot send because they get misinterpreted < 1465239626 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CTCP spec does not have this problem < 1465239629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, isn't the mirc one the only one? < 1465239636 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Khaled resolutely refused to engage, however < 1465239637 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the ctcp one? can you give a link? < 1465239644 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eventually the mIRC one won the adoption war < 1465239669 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12I 04a09m 08n09o13t 11a00d09o12p08t00e12d < 1465239675 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : think ctcp would've done better < 1465239679 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all color combos :P < 1465239691 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so that's why I hadn't heard of it < 1465239696 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465239697 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no misinterpritation (i cant spell) < 1465239704 0 :moon__!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1465239792 0 :moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1465239811 0 :moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to bad internet, i might have to make a script to beat ping to sending info so i dont disconnect < 1465239846 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://web.archive.org/web/20070702054927/http://www.invlogic.com/irc/ctcp.html < 1465239946 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Configuring nm2 shouldn't be this annoying :| < 1465239956 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I see < 1465239964 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, got it < 1465240030 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is a clusterfuck < 1465240060 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factual < 1465240266 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465240267 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh. < 1465240278 0 :moon__!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1465240392 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened? < 1465240404 0 :moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1465240467 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465240502 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill work on fumble a little later. < 1465240669 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465240756 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465240864 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465241654 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465241710 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465242504 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465242562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC that I use does not implement the mIRC colours < 1465242620 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :free as in beer c course http://mooc.fi/courses/2016/aalto-c/en/ < 1465243360 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1465243388 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465243406 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1465243411 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im alive good < 1465243429 0 :Moon_!Moon_@tx-76-1-91-181.dyn.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, hopefully i can get the page on Fumble up. < 1465243762 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1465243773 0 :I!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465243796 0 :I!?@? NICK :Guest83470 < 1465243846 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could somebody /me something? I'm testing my irssi format < 1465243878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where test < 1465243878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?@ ?run var$("(@metar "++).(++") \\ ")=< Bool -> f () -> f () < 1465248275 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src unless < 1465248275 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless p s = if p then return () else s < 1465248289 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, it is a nice thing to have < 1465248292 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it a fair bit < 1465248292 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-174.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1465248296 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465248324 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have something like 'continueuntil'? < 1465248370 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while? < 1465248417 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1465248441 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :continueuntil-< condition >(< code >) allows the main code to continue until a condition is met, once met, it preforms the code and once the code is done jumps back to the instruction it triggered on. < 1465248553 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t until < 1465248554 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> Bool) -> (a -> a) -> a -> a < 1465248560 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src until' < 1465248560 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. I am sorry. < 1465248561 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src until < 1465248561 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :until p f x | p x = x < 1465248561 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : | otherwise = until p f (f x) < 1465248581 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does that do? im no good at haskell yet < 1465248583 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I totally understand what your continue until should do < 1465248587 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just understand some basic things < 1465248616 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt do anything until its condition is met, it uses a thread to retry the condition every tick < 1465248630 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, every time a instruction is processed < 1465248698 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e continueuntil-{cmp-a-5}-(print "5!") wont execute until a contains 5 later during program execution < 1465248751 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe < 1465248752 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t when < 1465248754 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => Bool -> f () -> f () < 1465248755 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src when < 1465248755 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :when p s = if p then s else return () < 1465248777 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt look like it executes in the backround there < 1465248840 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that's just the bare function. You throw some concurrency primitives in there and you're off to the races < 1465248885 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which do you mean? continueuntil or when? < 1465248910 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote I mean, that's just the bare function. You throw some concurrency primitives in there and you're off to the races < 1465248915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465248917 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I mean, that's just the bare function. You throw some concurrency primitives in there and you're off to the races < 1465248923 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1279) I mean, that's just the bare function. You throw some concurrency primitives in there and you're off to the races < 1465248933 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fumbles around chat* < 1465248982 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyways, what do you think of fumble proof? < 1465248992 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like f a = async $ when (a == 5) (print "5") (a + 1) < 1465248995 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever < 1465249011 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't typecheck, but that's the sketch o.o < 1465249047 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry, I meant f a = async $ when (a == 5) (print "5") (f (a + 1)) < 1465249072 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that's still wrong < 1465249076 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Late in the day < 1465249081 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I think it's neat < 1465249101 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just might make a interpreter once i figure out how < 1465249125 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think mine will exclude the threading bits, i cause problems when im gaven just 2 extra ones :P < 1465249126 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you represent negative literals? < 1465249142 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you caught something i overlooked < 1465249144 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1465249203 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1465249220 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!number> maybe? < 1465249225 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! maybe? < 1465249246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/fruit < 1465249247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya \ banana \ apple < 1465249270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo jackfruit >> tmp/fruit < 1465249281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465249300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fumble14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47156&oldid=47155 5* 03Moon 5* (+58) 10negative literals < 1465249458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47157&oldid=47137 5* 03Moon 5* (+13) 10Added fumble to list < 1465249795 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky for me C++ implents a stack already < 1465250203 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-174.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465250224 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:2ce4:12c1:3cfc:ef4b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465250236 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-174.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1465250240 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1465250277 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ima make the interpreter hackego compatible < 1465250295 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless shachaf or fizzie dont want that < 1465250482 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i put fumble on hackego? < 1465250515 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-174.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1465250575 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465250909 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-094-221-213-097.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465250920 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chat's dead < 1465250943 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-109-054.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465250974 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-109-054.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465251120 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1465251163 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-174.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1465251259 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just ran into something annoying < 1465251296 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (rawprog.at(counter) == "{") < 1465251299 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does not work because < 1465251310 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465251310 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\Users\Braden\Desktop\Desktop\Fumble\main.cpp|22|error: ISO C++ forbids comparison between pointer and integer [-fpermissive]| < 1465251355 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to toggle something to disable it >_> < 1465251390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465251434 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-174.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465251528 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now its borked, ill just use a C string >_> < 1465251655 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-006-015-073.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465251703 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-213-097.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1465251706 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1465251710 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_, why don't you dereference the character and compare to '{'? < 1465251753 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1}, {T}: Target permanent controlled by opponent gains your choice of first strike, vigilance, hexproof, flying, or infect, until end of turn. If the number of cards below this ability on the stack is exactly six, then this ability cannot be countered by spells and abilities. < 1465251928 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just wrote a big chunk with c strings, i dont feel like rewriting again < 1465251984 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-188-109-008-056.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465252119 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-015-073.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465252339 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, is that one of your puzzle cards? < 1465252349 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1465252353 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-188-109-008-056.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465252354 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just made it up right now < 1465252373 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly seems like it could be used for a puzzle < 1465252383 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does look like that. < 1465252457 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect such card would be artifact, but I do not know what mana cost of the artifact. (Other changes could also be made, possibly.) < 1465252483 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-185-192.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465252851 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving shroud or shadow seem it may be more powerful than it should be, giving banding or trample is pretty worthless, giving haste is too small effects, and giving phasing isn't really going to do anything anyways. < 1465253004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465253098 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465253285 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'fumble.exe has just fumbled' would be much more funny that 'fumble.exe has stopped working' < 1465253680 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.82 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1465254044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make the records of Magic: the Puzzling according to: most life points, most names of cards, most sets of cards, most priority passes, most damage, most mana, most objects on the stack, most names of permanents, most types of counters, most objects initially on stack, most nested subgames, most number of players, etc. (It only counts in cases where these numbers are bounded.) < 1465254068 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this might take me a while, i need to learn :P < 1465254075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why does it only count when they're bounded? < 1465254101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For example, if someone has a countably infinite set of objects, and I have an uncountable set, surely I should win some sort of record. < 1465254130 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that is a different record. However, there are no uncountable sets in Magic: the Gathering anyways, as far as I know. < 1465254160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's why it would be a new record. < 1465254164 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that even if the numbers are unbounded, if there is a well-defined minimum needed for correct solution, that would count though. < 1465254272 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There aren't any infinite sets of objects in Magic: the Gathering either, although some are unbounded.) < 1465254420 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465254541 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what, for now, im not skilled enough t make a fumble interpreter < 1465254687 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly wish i was >_> < 1465254791 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, anyone wana try their hand at it? < 1465254799 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fumble < 1465254846 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhelloon_. < 1465254912 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465254916 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1465254944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wish to examine a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon. < 1465254957 0 :Guest83470!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1465255085 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: it was a customary porthello hth < 1465255089 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. < 1465255705 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of hilarious how games have to specify "Online interactions not rated by ESRB" < 1465255811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they don't have to. < 1465255837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But they do < 1465255842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they don't. < 1465255853 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465255878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "the ability to prove Lambek's lemma is a litmus test of whether you can think categorically" < 1465255887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As it turns out, ESRB has not analyzed every possible behavior of every person who could ever play this game, and thus have not rated the people you will encounter online" < 1465255903 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1465255913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game Hearthstone has no chat feature. < 1465255930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People can only interact by saying one of six or so predefined phrases. < 1465255951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ESRB could manage that. < 1465255965 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexcode? < 1465256051 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try to use that to encode an IP address and port number, so that you can then use other program for chat. < 1465257267 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DISPLACER CHICKEN < 1465257418 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465257421 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1465257438 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1465257500 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat dead? < 1465257573 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat dead. < 1465257626 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1465257710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1465257764 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you come to dispel the myths of this channel's premature demise? < 1465257779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS < 1465257930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Every time someone says that it reminds me of that StackOverflow answer. <-- a quick google didn't find what you're talking about tdnh < 1465257963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google magic haskell reflection < 1465257964 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17793466/black-magic-in-haskell-reflection < 1465257964 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Black Magic in Haskell Reflection - Stack Overflow < 1465258133 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im writeing up another example for fumble: pretending that it understands what the heck a decimal point is < 1465258146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i kept the you instead of the magic. < 1465258593 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever I see Proxy, the code makes perfect sense as long as I replace it with "whatever you need it to be" < 1465258599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fumble14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47158&oldid=47156 5* 03Moon 5* (+305) 10Added Decimal Numbers example -Moon_ < 1465258612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you replace Proxy with @, everything'll work out. < 1465258618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that GHC supports @. < 1465258657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fumble14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47159&oldid=47158 5* 03Moon 5* (-40) 10minor error < 1465258700 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaving for Tokyo tomorrow. < 1465258711 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neato < 1465258714 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bon voyokyo < 1465258754 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what do you think of fumble? < 1465258894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing hth < 1465258904 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1465258918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might have something to do with not having looked at it. < 1465258929 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465259037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: for an esolang, its main unusual feature seems to be _not_ using single character commands hth < 1465259052 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465259068 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead it has a full syntax < 1465259087 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes it more intresting, really < 1465259286 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-73-138.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465259394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( someone should get hold of peer and give him a good beating ) < 1465259580 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465259603 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop's batter fell out >_> < 1465259797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1465259825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it hasn't been properly baked. < 1465259915 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oerjan, i can give you the factorial of the sum of your username < 1465259928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1465259934 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :want it? < 1465259946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not particularly. < 1465259951 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welll..... < 1465259952 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{main[args:num]: print-num print-"'s factorial is" [tmp,tmp2,tmp3,sum] until-{cmp-tmp2-1}( set[tmp,num] dec-tmp2 mult-tmp2-num po-tmp3 set-sum-tmp3 set-tmp-tmp2 ) print-sum } < 1465259956 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fifgure t out (= < 1465259963 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*figure it out < 1465259971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't oerjan just say he didn't want it < 1465259985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1465259999 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'not particularly' is not synonym to 'didnt want', its like 'maybe' < 1465260027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's diplomatic for "didn't want" hth < 1465260039 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, didnt take that into account < 1465260084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded of an anecdote about norwegian-korean culture collision < 1465260114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically koreans (and i think many other asians) will never outright say "no" to an invitation. < 1465260137 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :::==== ::: :::==== ::: :::==== :::======= :::==== :::===== ::: === < 1465260140 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ::: === ::: ::: === ::: ::: === ::: === === ::: === ::: ::: === < 1465260142 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric : === === === ======= === === === === === === ======== === ===== < 1465260145 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric : === === === === === === === === === === === === === < 1465260145 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that? < 1465260147 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ======= === === ======== ====== === === === === ======= === < 1465260150 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1465260152 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But will always say no to a gift < 1465260164 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's when someone gives you something without expecting something in return, hth < 1465260168 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i broke the words < 1465260181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :her actual response was "maybe i'll try", which the norwegian interpreted as that she might come. < 1465260222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not focused enough hth < 1465260235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: proof that you're norwegian hth < 1465260240 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465260276 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1465260415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: apparently the question of whether to say no to food, when, and whether to accept such a no, is somewhat of a cultural collision even inside norway. although not anywhere i recall being. < 1465260462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some communities you're supposed to say no several times before accepting. < 1465260500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course this is an international mess) < 1465260539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which leads to the case where you might want more food, be polite in your way, and the host might interpret it as a final no. < 1465260593 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have that problem in Sweden, as well. I don't want to imply that I didn't like the food, but I don't want to be a glutton < 1465260635 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been known to take the last piece of cake hth hth < 1465260646 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I have that problem everywhere. Except at home, I guess. Only God can judge the amount of pork I eat at home < 1465260669 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make a interpreter for N--, how should i handle the variable system? http://esolangs.org/wiki/N-- < 1465260670 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last piece of cake? You're a real monster, and no mistake < 1465260677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1465260697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, double hth again < 1465260735 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Start by making them immutable, then tweak accordingly. :D < 1465260744 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C < 1465260798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've now booked my hotel. I'm staying in a capsule hotel < 1465260824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :180 CAD for 7 nights < 1465260833 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Do as I said in C. Then `sed 's/const//g' yourfile.c` < 1465260839 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done < 1465260842 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming is so easy~ < 1465260855 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That's quite a good rate < 1465260880 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually pay upwards of a thousand USD, and that's at a hotel that likes me o.o < 1465260908 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a capsule hotel is a hotel that is very... minimal < 1465260912 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just use a 2d array: vartable[26][26] < 1465260922 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I believe I remember seeing pictures < 1465260935 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope your neighbors aren't too amorous < 1465260953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why do you keep a de-hthing script if you just work around it all the time? < 1465260967 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are separate floors for men-only and women-only < 1465260993 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That only increases the allure < 1465260999 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465261007 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaking rules is v sexy, as I understand it < 1465261040 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not breaking rules, if that's the preference < 1465261048 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if they want to do that there atre love hotels that give you a nice soft bed < 1465261067 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine claustrophiles having a lovely time < 1465261086 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaagh < 1465261089 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1465261110 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, what brings you to Tokyo? < 1465261116 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than a plane, one imagines < 1465261135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nostalgia < 1465261157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I figured. :-( < 1465261291 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i convert a letter to its respective place in the alphabet? < 1465261350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: l & 32 < 1465261353 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1465261357 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1465261359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* l & 31 < 1465261427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ascii, that is. if you're using ebcdic you're on your own. < 1465261482 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you can say that in just about any situation < 1465261513 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1465261524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines prooftechnique's line being self-referential. < 1465261721 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465261847 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465262008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Wikipedia doesn't hate fun, right?) <-- you were being sarcastic, right? < 1465262040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it definitely hates fun in the main article namespace, and only somewhat tolerates it elsewhere. < 1465262099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the "Did you know" section on the front page seems to have misleading descriptions on occasion, and not just on April 1. < 1465262151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait are you 1 hour idle and still not pinged out < 1465262171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to tweak his idle detection algorithm < 1465262241 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1465262257 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-- will soon have a interpreter < 1465262260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quevenintopia < 1465262286 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that porthello makes me nauseated for some reason < 1465262298 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds even grosser than "queef" < 1465262319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite. < 1465262397 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now regrets looking that up < 1465262401 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't come to work, boss. I'm quevening all over the bathroom floor! < 1465262680 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quevening sounds like a very reasonable excuse < 1465262965 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465262971 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1465262973 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1465264096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm here < 1465264130 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia hppa < 1465264145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now I'm gone < 1465264146 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you look at my new esolang? its not singlechar and has a syntax < 1465264152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Where? < 1465264163 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fumble < 1465264204 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Wiki pages should not be in first-person < 1465264216 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: They should be third-person with a touch of second-person when necessary < 1465264242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ponies are very turbing. < 1465264242 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occasional 4th person for the purpose of reducing ambiguity < 1465264252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: 4th? < 1465264255 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, Im not the best writer < 1465264263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Nobody is < 1465264276 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_person#Additional_persons < 1465264289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: The best writer is obviously Voltaire hth < 1465264305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :checks out < 1465264348 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465264355 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do you think of it, tho? < 1465264356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Ah, yes, "one" works too, though I prefer to call that zeroth person < 1465264365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't really matter who "one" is < 1465264370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Not sure < 1465264377 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I stopped when I saw an uncapitalized "i" < 1465264380 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Non-English languages have other persons beyond the indefinite one < 1465264384 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1465264388 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1465264391 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read it all < 1465264411 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have thing like "him" but also "him, but closer to me than that other one" < 1465264425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Also, there are code excerpts that aren't in monospace, and that drives me crazy < 1465264429 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where closer is either due to proximity or some intangible quality < 1465264436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I think that this is a first draft for the moment. < 1465264443 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1465264458 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much of a language could be implemented in MS Word formatting codes < 1465264465 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monospace strictly forbidden < 1465264467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Which kind of language? < 1465264486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: No, really. It isn't properly formated, so it's very difficult to read < 1465264492 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465264500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like trying to read a book in a mirror < 1465264642 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I forgot what your language is called. Link? < 1465264656 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, found it < 1465264713 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Set your default font to monospace, hth < 1465264749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Too much work < 1465264762 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally one switch in your browser :P < 1465264781 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though all these unintended ligatures are a bit odd :D < 1465264825 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fumble < 1465264976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monty Hall Trolley Problem. < 1465264978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1465265063 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I assume that there's an out-of-control trolleycar which you can direct onto one of three tracks by changing points < 1465265078 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know that two of the tracks are blocked by people < 1465265079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes < 1465265087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Correct < 1465265095 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after you move the points, someone who can see the tracks tells you that one of the tracks you didn't pick has a person on it < 1465265103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Or, more accurately, there are more people on one track than on the other two < 1465265103 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you change the points to the other unknown track? < 1465265113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Pretty much exactly < 1465265116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, has to be more on two than the other one < 1465265133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, that works too < 1465265135 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monty hall problem requires one desirable outcome and two undesirable outcomes to work < 1465265142 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have two desirable and one undesirable < 1465265160 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then either the host tells you about the undesirable outcome and it doesn't matter whether you switch, it's desirable either way < 1465265160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wait, hm... < 1465265163 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any of the tracks have something that can stop the train? < 1465265166 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the host tells you about a desirable outcome, in which case you just take it < 1465265179 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in this problem, people normally assume no < 1465265184 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's unrealistic < 1465265197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OK, you chose door C. Now we're going to open door A, which has a goat. Would you like to switch doors?" < 1465265201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, I'll take door A" < 1465265204 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the problem involves a set of points, and you have a decent chance of being able to stop a train by changing the points setting while the train is over the points < 1465265250 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the points could have a safety feature that prevents them being changed when a train is nearby < 1465265264 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465265284 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that problem gae me anothe esolang idea, one powered by trains and points < 1465265292 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this actually happened in the london underground runaway that's possibly the closest real life has come to the trolley problem (as a bonus, nobody was hurt, although nobody had enough information to know that that would be the outcome) < 1465265302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Actually, I have the patent rights to that esolang idea. < 1465265310 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're all ignoring the obvious. Take a plane instead and you won't have to deal with this conundrum < 1465265314 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465265317 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1465265352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: But how do we kill people and make it look like an accident or the-best-of-a-bad-situation when it's a plane? < 1465265363 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Water landing" < 1465265392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... The trolley problem becomes a lot more complicated when you know the person you can switch to AND you have reason to hate them- say, your spouse had an affair with them < 1465265406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then it seems like you could conceivably charge it as murder < 1465265423 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more complicated if you care more about their happiness than about their fidelity < 1465265523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1465265527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what'd be great? < 1465265539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An IRC client that makes you trade nicks with other people using that client at random < 1465265544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And doesn't tell you < 1465265548 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here: https://assets.digital.cabinet-office.gov.uk/media/547c8feae5274a428d00015b/R092011_110615_Highgate.pdf < 1465265550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And masks everything so you can't tell < 1465265562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even messages mentioning that person get substituted for your nick) < 1465265570 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic summary is that a an engineering train ran away on the london underground < 1465265586 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the signallers went to a lot of effort to move all the other trains out of its path < 1465265591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.mil.va < 1465265592 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, neuron based esolang... < 1465265602 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: That sounds like a very annoying IRC client < 1465265610 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your name is a common word, then it is something else. < 1465265637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: We hate those people though < 1465265693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#tromp2016+4i < 1465265732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... who regulates people using the .va domain? < 1465265740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ccTLD < 1465265746 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jfwzqmpqkuwfykjc QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465265750 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vatican, maybe? < 1465265761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, "it is administered by the Internet Office of the Holy See." < 1465265793 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-fhirjnjxcjapylns JOIN :#esoteric < 1465265805 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465265830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I was hoping to get my hands on porn.va and use it to offend every catholic everywhere < 1465265849 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be nice to get no.va < 1465265874 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465265874 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would host a language to serve as a direct counterpoint to Go < 1465265896 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it would also be great for hosting pirated PBS specials < 1465265913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Is it even possible to pirate a PBS special? < 1465265956 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to steal from a non-profit? < 1465265979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why is Morocco "MA"? < 1465265992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: No? < 1465266012 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it is possible to steal from a non-profit. But I don't expect pirating PBS specials for them to lose anything. < 1465266022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well yeah, that's what I meant? < 1465266024 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The answer is yes < 1465266029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too bad Benin's ccTLD is regulated < 1465266037 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Also, maybe it's short for Maghreb? < 1465266094 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps Marakesh < 1465266113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :morocco is marokko in norwegian, anyway. < 1465266125 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, nevermind, I found it < 1465266130 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#MA < 1465266136 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from the French, Maroc < 1465266150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bottom-level domain? < 1465266459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :republicans.bs isn't registered :D < 1465266512 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm extremely disappointed that abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw.xyz is taken < 1465266535 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it taken by Alphabet, by any chance? < 1465266570 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not. It is actually taken by xyz.com, a registrar for .xyz domains < 1465266573 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, taken by xyz :P < 1465266612 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only i had a personal website named moon.esoteric lol < 1465266668 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be honoring the esoteric channel by that lol < 1465266672 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it as possible < 1465266721 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm stunned that a .club domain is only 88 cents < 1465266784 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :select(typeof('\'')x){}/*'))where 0;/*/main(){puts("Hello, World!");}//*/select'Hello, World!'; < 1465266893 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try doing that in N-- < 1465266894 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465266917 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What language is that? < 1465266924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But abc.xyz is taken by Alphabet. < 1465266927 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: What does it look to you? < 1465266947 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl < 1465266994 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't. (I tried, and it doesn't work.) < 1465267023 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something C flavored, but with a weird SQL aspect < 1465267032 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks esoteric < 1465267051 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try searching that in the esolang iki < 1465267070 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing < 1465267076 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing on Google, either < 1465267091 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1465267093 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Where did you find it? < 1465267096 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a mystery < 1465267099 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did you write it? < 1465267103 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you could search for such a mess on Google effectively anyways. < 1465267108 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I wrote it. < 1465267110 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely not < 1465267119 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new esolang?! < 1465267121 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A polyglot, maybe? < 1465267190 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: What do you think it is? Maybe you can try to understand by yourself too? < 1465267331 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly dont < 1465267351 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any C programming? < 1465267369 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a reasonable amount, I suppose < 1465267408 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, look at that < 1465267424 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just prints "Hello, World!". That was what I expected from the Cish bits < 1465267463 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, syntax highlighting makes it obvious < 1465267472 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also defines (and then doesn't use) a function called "select" < 1465267499 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465267508 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1465267511 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1465267621 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C one-liners are < 1465267624 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12┬─┐┬─┐┐ 12┬o┬ 12o┐─2┐┬ 2┬ < 1465267624 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12│ 12│├─ 12│┌2┘││ 2│└─┐│─┤ < 1465267624 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2┆─┘┴─┘└┘ 2┆┆─┘┆──15┘┆ 15┴ < 1465267732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the other language is SQL < 1465267759 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465267795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it works because they treat '\'' differently, so C thinks that's one char but SQL continues with a string to the next ' < 1465267872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... A programming language where the code is the color and the markup is the text? < 1465267881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reverse syntax highlighting) < 1465267894 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: They have that, it's called ColorForth < 1465267911 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think most SQL dialects will choke on typeof < 1465267948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: oh hm... < 1465267966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it doesn't care what's inside because of the "where 0"? < 1465267998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a "typeof" function in SQLite at least. < 1465268024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465268053 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it does work in SQLite! < 1465268055 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very cool < 1465268119 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be shortened by moving the zero < 1465268133 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by just one byte) < 1465268184 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the shortened version: select(typeof('\'')x){}/*'))where/*/main(){puts("Hello, World!");}//*/0;select'Hello, World!'; < 1465268352 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:1518:4a5e:6a60:a3d9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465269596 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465269806 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@83-245-224-30-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465269900 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-181-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465269906 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1465270836 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465270956 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Added restriction, no spaces in the one-liner < 1465271022 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that would make it even more fun < 1465271038 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That particular one-liner already is almost spaceless, there are only spaces in the strings < 1465271056 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you're fine with Hello,World! it'd be good < 1465271423 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1465271596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465272473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1279 < 1465272494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1279) I mean, that's just the bare function. You throw some concurrency primitives in there and you're off to the races < 1465272514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled quotes//1279s/ / / < 1465272522 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes// EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ GKennethR: he shou < 1465272531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1465272537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1279 < 1465272539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1279) I mean, that's just the bare function. You throw some concurrency primitives in there and you're off to the races < 1465273668 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465273672 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hi < 1465274068 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465274948 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1465274954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :582) where is this going. why is this going. < 1465274966 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Moon_ has a short orbit < 1465276207 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Apparently I voted differently from at least one member of #esoteric < 1465276290 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voted differently on what? < 1465276307 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who to vote for in the US primaries < 1465276435 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1465276494 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know that? < 1465276512 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, because I saw your status + comments on that status < 1465276517 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. That. :P < 1465276556 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION definitely voted for Sanders, though honestly at this point it's more about messaging-in-polls than anything else. < 1465276572 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odds of Clinton being nominated are like 99.9% or something. < 1465276587 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION voted for Clinton, largely concerned about competence and electability. < 1465276604 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've pushed myself in too much of an anti-Bernie bubble < 1465276659 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also voting pretty much right at the end of the primary season which means that I know, and vote based on that. < 1465276718 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, honestly, as far as I can tell Bernie is fairly competent and would do reasonably as President. < 1465276726 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, *electable*, that's a different question entirely. < 1465276753 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not one I need to think about when my vote is effectively just saying "I support more liberal policies from Democratic party". < 1465276913 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will say that I think everyone in both campaigns is disappointed at the thought of lowered turnout < 1465277095 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... I do not like the idea of Trump winning because of lower turnout from Dems. < 1465277109 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with potentially 3 different SCOTUS justices up for nomination. < 1465277160 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION meant more acutely lower primary turnout tomorrow because of the nomination being called for Clinton < 1465277168 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Right. < 1465277724 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In CA it's kinda important even ignoring the President though; a Senate office is up for election, and the incumbent isn't running. < 1465278004 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan> although the "Did you know" section on the front page seems to have misleading descriptions on occasion, and not just on April 1. <-- also puns. like, the last one right now... < 1465278646 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\std < 1465278850 0 :Elronnd\std!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1465279361 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1465279927 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1465280329 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465280428 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made up the classifications of possible external ante rules for Magic: the Gathering, which are: scoreless-per-duel, scored-per-duel, scoreless-per-match, scored-per-match, scoreless-per-tournament, scored-per-tournament, prize-altering, permanent. (These are just broad classifications, and many formats are possible in each one.) < 1465280474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1465280627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you score less per duel than ever before? < 1465280696 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1465280756 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scoreless-per-duel ante" means that all ownership changes end at the end of a duel, and do not further affect the tournament in any way (the only thing that affects it is who won that duel). < 1465280821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ante rules. < 1465280826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see that word. < 1465280832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't ante banned? < 1465280861 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, in all official tournaments, it is not played for ante, and all ante cards are banned. < 1465280878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're suggesting an illegal tournament? < 1465280880 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permanent ante is not suitable if using borrowed cards or custom cards; the others are suitable even in these cases though. < 1465280904 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Actually, it does not even necessarily have to be a tournament. < 1465280904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be called "permanante". < 1465280913 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465280915 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that is what it is called. OK < 1465282285 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your take on these java api? < 1465282313 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring the fact that a good half of the users here are google employees < 1465282519 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465283010 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465283433 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465283441 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hi < 1465283449 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anybody there < 1465283455 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so < 1465283457 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1465283532 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465283584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i think that's _possibly_ an exaggeration hth < 1465283598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i only know two for sure.) < 1465283617 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465283622 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1465283624 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can invite a few more to compensate < 1465283634 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hi < 1465283636 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465283644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ok, but then they have to know haskell. mustn't upset the balance. < 1465283651 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do < 1465283656 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least one does < 1465283656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1465283664 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came up with an resoling, but now I do not know what to call it < 1465283668 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang* < 1465283678 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it myesolang < 1465283681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465283684 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465283688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is the TSP NP? < 1465283690 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1465283709 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet there's no language called myesolang on the wiki < 1465283714 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465283716 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1465283724 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there isn't going to be < 1465283725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Because, IIRC, TSP requires you to be able to quickly verify a correct solution < 1465283729 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?search=myesolang&title=Special:Search&fulltext=Search see? < 1465283734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you were talking to Destructible_? < 1465283738 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sorry < 1465283746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No no, I see how it is < 1465283760 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're offended? < 1465283764 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:b073:145c:19e4:aa48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Visual MyEsoLang++ < 1465283768 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:b073:145c:19e4:aa48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465283777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No < 1465283782 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1465283794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Visual MyEsoLang++#? < 1465283833 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:b073:145c:19e4:aa48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Visual #MyEsoLang < 1465283844 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is silently seething < 1465283857 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's either twittertalk or irc but it's not good for a language's name < 1465283925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An esolang based on #hashtags would be vaguely interesting < 1465283934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Izabera 5* 10New user account < 1465283959 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be making that after I actually finished this esolang I already made < 1465283963 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang < 1465283970 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang < 1465283991 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :resoling is what mac thinks resoling should be < 1465283996 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:b073:145c:19e4:aa48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The execution of the program depends inextricably on what's trending < 1465283996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: did you... not have a wiki account? < 1465283998 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang* < 1465284000 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do now < 1465284034 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf my name has a lowercase i < 1465284039 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's Izabera < 1465284055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: fale? < 1465284060 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fale? < 1465284072 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1465284141 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, anyway, I still have no idea what to call my esolang < 1465284177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD http://i.imgur.com/R9JoJ9t.gifv IS AMAZING < 1465284192 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Vecaret, or 0aret vec0 < 1465284210 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Are CPP macros Turing complete? Tht could be your hashtag language < 1465284231 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*That < 1465284247 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what did i just witness? < 1465284272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Blowing up a dam < 1465284274 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Long story short, "no". < 1465284285 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need a name for my language though < 1465284316 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they're close enough that the difference is probably pointless; you can easily get computations that run 'til the heat death, but are technically finite, with CPP macros. < 1465284331 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible_: a rose by any other name... < 1465284338 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1465284350 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is a wiki < 1465284359 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the name is what they see < 1465284371 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it needs to be appropriate < 1465284374 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and either way < 1465284383 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it need to be appropriate? < 1465284389 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1465284400 0 :Destructible_!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465284432 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:50ec:2469:1aa1:58c3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465284471 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465284492 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now you can understand why it needs to be appropriate < 1465284499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible_: Call it ylfkfpqsqmlkhy < 1465284507 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1465284515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible_wat: Just randomly generate a string and call it that < 1465284518 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, I have idea < 1465284574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible_wat: ''.join([string.ascii_lowercase[random.randrange(0, len(string.ascii_lowercase))] for _ in (random.randrange(3, 15))]) (python, string and random must be imported) < 1465284621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465284649 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465284799 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest a new language called heck, which is like hack but closer to its php roots < 1465284813 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, every php interpreter is also able to interpret heck < 1465284824 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had idea < 1465284844 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Galcveccoq < 1465284857 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: noice < 1465284860 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the first letter of each command symbol together < 1465284871 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but you could probably use chr() < 1465284881 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1465284937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : wtf my name has a lowercase i <-- sorry, capitalization is automatic. there are some workarounds for page titles and signatures. < 1465284949 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :''.join([chr(random.randrange(30,500) for _ in random.randrange(3,15)]) < 1465284958 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm deeply offended < 1465284994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wait, is the TSP NP? <-- nope, it's not a decision problem. < 1465285027 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is NP hard < 1465285084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait < 1465285105 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://magiccards.info/m10/de/202.html http://magiccards.info/10e/de/290.html http://magiccards.info/10e/en/290.html < 1465285115 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll call my language Otal < 1465285128 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 0tal < 1465285141 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :()tal < 1465285141 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are German printings of two M:tG cards whose German names are identical, despite that their English names differ, and also this German name is identical to the English name of one of those cards? < 1465285145 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this normal? < 1465285151 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this wasn't supposed to happen < 1465285161 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you know that? < 1465285198 0 :Destructible_wat!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465285467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: things that aren't supposed to happen sometimes do hth < 1465285500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: one class TSP is in is FP^NP, i.e. polynomial functions with an NP oracle. < 1465285523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there's probably a slightly weaker one < 1465285539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1465285556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"polynomial function" being a function computable in polynomial time. < 1465285602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MacBook Hydrogen ® < 1465285612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it corrected from (R). Cool. < 1465285619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true NP version of TSP is "is there a path shorter than k" < 1465285629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you sure it's not a function with many names hth < 1465285633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any substance less dense than pure Hydrogen 1? < 1465285637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also NP-complete. < 1465285694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought that was a polynymic function < 1465285696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hm i recall there was some foam lighter than air. not sure about hydrogen. < 1465285722 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know there's aerofoam (or something), but I don't think it's lighter than air; it's just really really light < 1465285725 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that should be polyonymic. but i'm not sure, it looks ugly. < 1465285731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An anonomyial function is like a polynomial function, but you don't know its degree. < 1465285744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't really be lighter than air because it's 99.97% air < 1465285746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that < 1465285771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i thought they vacuumed it or something? < 1465285782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think so? < 1465285790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're probably just talking about different foams < 1465285798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aerogel? < 1465285802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( What an incredibly boring conversation ) < 1465285804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, that < 1465285812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was pretty excited about aerogel a little over a decade ago. < 1465285824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I was surprised to find out that a company in the small (~10,000 people) town I lived in made it. < 1465285839 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called them and asked if I could get a sample but they said no. < 1465285854 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww. < 1465285884 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If aerogel were lighter than air it'd *float*. < 1465285898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if I'd told them I was [redacted] years old they would've taken pity on me. < 1465285899 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember they actually made versions lighter than air < 1465285903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why'd they say no? < 1465285915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can't say the number because it would reveal my age. < 1465285923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes < 1465285926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably because I wasn't offering any money. < 1465285929 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Not impossible, but that'd imply they did something like manufacture it in a helium atmosphere. < 1465285937 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it'd float. < 1465285954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah, that'd be a problem < 1465285968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the smallest sample you could buy was $100 or something. < 1465285980 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the PAD-SAT problem < 1465285990 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why would they have to manufacture it in a helium atmosphere? that'd be expensive. they'd just manufacture it in rarified air (near vacuum, it doesn't have to be really rare) or rarified nitrogen < 1465286017 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "something like". < 1465286020 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those would work too. < 1465286051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd title text is amazing < 1465286084 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"List of lists of sexually active popes" anyone? < 1465286102 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently they do manufacture it in a helium atmosphere, so it gets filled with helium for pressure < 1465286116 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would get expensive < 1465286129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Are you still pooching it up? < 1465286152 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less, yup. < 1465286197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People handling aerogel for extended periods should wear gloves to prevent the appearance of dry brittle spots on their skin." < 1465286205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pooching away again in margaritaville. < 1465286225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What time is it in Margaritaville ATM? < 1465286257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's in Texas. < 1465286260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe Nevada. < 1465286284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god, there's something lighter than aerogel < 1465286290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerographene < 1465286319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww, it needs carbon nanotubes < 1465286329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I probably can't buy some in my conceivable lifetime < 1465286448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize that one of aerogel's applications involved menstruation. < 1465286466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why would you want that? Seems like a pretty bad application < 1465286481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, for dealing with it? < 1465286484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes more sense < 1465286490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how long is an extended period? < 1465286534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Isn't that called an "ellipsis"? < 1465286594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Xanth, an ellipsis is used to summon the stork. < 1465286598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe that's related. < 1465286906 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:50ec:2469:1aa1:58c3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465286913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: surely you need 10 periods for a stork, not just 3 < 1465286940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1465286945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i missing one this time < 1465287062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When a mommy and a daddy love each other very much and want to have a baby, they have sex. They keep having sex, right in front of the stork, until he gives in and puts in a request for a baby delivery to make them stop. Then, 9 months later due to bureaucratic procedures, a baby is delivered" < 1465287090 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds legit < 1465287151 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best I can think of is that a pregnancy lasts about 9 months, but it must be something else. < 1465287170 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean a human pregnancy. < 1465287198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think that that was the joke < 1465287217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And a period is slightly less than monthly, so about 10 periods are "lost" when a baby is gestating < 1465287254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did I get it right? < 1465287581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yep < 1465287593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY < 1465287607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fun fact: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY is a palindrome) < 1465287616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooooooooooh < 1465287630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1465287639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : | fact n = n * fact (n-1) < 1465287654 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fun fact < 1465287686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1465287688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: HackEgo is damn slow < 1465287725 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that supposed to be haskell? < 1465287742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ml < 1465287747 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1465287754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/fun fact < 1465287772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: clearly ml < 1465287777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan kmc < 1465287785 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never did ml < 1465287796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 hogue wisdom/fun\ fact < 1465287808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1: revert \ revert 1 \ sed -i \'s/|/ |/\' wisdom/fun\\ fact \ sed -i \'1N; s/\\n *//\' wisdom/fun\\ fact \ revert \ sed -i \'1N; s/ *//\' wisdom/fun\\ fact \ printf \'fun fact 0 = 1\\n | fact n = n * fact (n - 1)\\n\' > wisdom/fun\\ fact \ < 1465287828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Neither did I < 1465287843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun lie: THE MOON LANDINGS WERE FAKED < 1465287982 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: i discussed a german translation for "fun fact" with a few people and we decided it to be "ulkiger umstand" < 1465287990 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :USING ALIEN TECHNOLOGY < 1465288007 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta fun fact < 1465288009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU < 1465288018 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465288018 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard < 1465288051 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/md/htuqqx12.html < 1465288057 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10% pixels is way too much :D < 1465288171 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I use xdpyinfo it says there is 96 visuals, and then lists them, all details seem same for each one except some are TrueColor and some are DirectColor, and one of them has 32 planes while the rest have 24. Do you know what is the purpose of the many visuals? < 1465288215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 isn't a very big number compared to, say, 65536. < 1465288305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :glxinfo may give a clue < 1465288353 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though not a complete answer) < 1465288360 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know the complete answer < 1465288447 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but there are all different somehow? < 1465288548 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wdtybflbdiekbvej QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465288549 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltab: I don't know! < 1465288652 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is it's just the cartesian product of settings that can now vary independently but couldn't when the api was designed < 1465288662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you know about antifunctions? < 1465288821 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1465288873 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An antifunction maps an antiset to an antiset. < 1465288884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An antiset might be a set of memory locations, for instance. < 1465288920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or labels or something. < 1465288928 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So an antifunction : A -> B gives meaning to a set of memory locations B in terms of a set of memory locations A. < 1465288933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can delete and duplicate elements of A. < 1465289219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nice link < 1465289520 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what are the properties of fnord? < 1465289542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if I say "it is pronounced the same way as phnord", can you still see "phnord" < 1465289552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, if I put it in a sentence, will the word just be missing? < 1465289625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what if I make a list of every word up to a certain length? Will there just be a blank space where "fnord" should be? Will I be able to see it so I can't tell which one I can't see otherwise? Will it get deleted and all the others moved up? < 1465289639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the others moved up, couldn't I just infer from which was missing what the word is? < 1465289939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should read The Illuminatus! Trilogy. < 1465290094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I just realized that you can put a bucket of lava into a wooden chest in minecraft < 1465290099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nothing bad will ever happen < 1465291088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1465292063 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465292251 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1465292254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-06-07 08:37:02.395249000+00:00 < 1465292474 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1465293025 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ping < 1465293087 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in M:tG, there are German printings of two cards whose German names are identical, despite that their English names differ, and also this German name is identical to the English name of one of those cards. this was news to me. do you know this already? and were you horrified when you found out? < 1465293098 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://magiccards.info/m10/de/202.html http://magiccards.info/10e/de/290.html //magiccards.info/10e/en/290.html < 1465293488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE < 1465293495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*coughs* < 1465293496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excuse me < 1465293891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know anything about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homology_(biology) < 1465294024 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465294131 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465297237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465297300 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465298292 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:1518:4a5e:6a60:a3d9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465298424 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:1518:4a5e:6a60:a3d9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1465299571 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465299579 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoi < 1465299635 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody? < 1465299684 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Client Quit < 1465299696 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465299852 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465299862 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465299878 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1465299970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465299976 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1465299979 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1465299993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grimmargorp//Þór, Grimmargorpurinn hefur sloppið! Ragnarök eru nálæg! < 1465300087 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! ^^ < 1465300090 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1465300093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic//impomatic never did anything weird enough to get into this database. < 1465300094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465300099 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1465300106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the weird things on the internet is warnings that don't make sense < 1465300109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, be advised that we work closely with law enforcement and we report child exploitation." < 1465300136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, "PROTIP: Don't put your child porn here because we'll have to report you to the cops. < 1465300312 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-30-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465300382 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read it as "don't put your child porn here because we got into troubles last time" < 1465300463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That works too < 1465300488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But to me it seems like "Don't put it here because we aren't suited to hide it properly; google will give you some better places" < 1465300528 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles child porn stash < 1465300703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Not even particularly funny. < 1465300737 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't actually google that < 1465300822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Yes, but this is a logged chat < 1465300829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Also, I'm an NSA bot < 1465300838 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465300925 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does nsa even care about that? < 1465300970 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually know much of what nsa does other than supposedly spying on people < 1465301005 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't threaten national security so i guess that's not their business < 1465301128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47160&oldid=46815 5* 03Sesshomariu 5* (+76) 10/* Examples */ < 1465301148 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :people did an impressive job of misinterpreting the snowden leaks as "the nsa is personally reading everything you do" < 1465301183 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. everything can be grounds to threatening national security hth < 1465301229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Shush, don't give the terrorists ammo you national-security-damaging heathen < 1465301380 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Да здравствует партия! < 1465301753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is one of those things where if someone walks in you switch to porn cause it's easier to explain" < 1465301968 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender < 1465302005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47161&oldid=47160 5* 03Sesshomariu 5* (+0) 10/* Hello, world!(without string reversing) */ < 1465302044 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1465302049 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REFUTABLE CHICKEN < 1465302063 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465302513 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-185-192.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465302582 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465302616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465302950 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-185-192.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465302952 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-185-192.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465303051 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-237.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465303959 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-237.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465303970 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-083-224.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465304105 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1465304113 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465304139 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465304155 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465304243 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1465304380 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465304526 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465304735 0 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-125-127.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465304886 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:cc65:c2b7:831c:9f10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465304900 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:cc65:c2b7:831c:9f10 QUIT :Changing host < 1465304900 0 :bender__!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465304912 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:1518:4a5e:6a60:a3d9 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1465304916 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender < 1465304972 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-090-098.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465305020 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-083-224.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465305048 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465305086 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465305116 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465305143 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465305219 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465305840 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465307081 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465307435 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1465308389 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1465308811 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles how send probe Sarnus < 1465308843 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-30-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465309359 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465309468 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, put more fuel on the lv-n upper stage? < 1465309507 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a while since i played ksp but it was never hard to get a few km/s of delta v into low orbit that way < 1465310127 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465310433 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465310445 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465310684 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465311786 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1465312123 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-30-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1465312342 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1039 < 1465312355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1039: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1465312473 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-30-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1465312634 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 page update < 1465312912 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.77.222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465313780 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1465314253 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone please send some utf-8? < 1465314427 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nö < 1465314604 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :℃ℬ < 1465314612 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about that? < 1465314787 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :∀∁∃ < 1465314806 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :∰ < 1465314988 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :izbr < 1465315008 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your poor vowels < 1465315075 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H๑พ αв๑บт тнαт? < 1465315091 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ʇɐɥʇ әqʎɐɯ ɹO < 1465315422 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ plus/minus 2QB B = plus/minus B? < 1465315437 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pe u with grave q P o y O? < 1465315539 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:f8ed:cf45:26dc:a305 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465315583 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: PeùqPoyO or what? < 1465315769 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: √Q±2QB²=±B < 1465316922 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1465318094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* 10New user account < 1465318251 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c100:63f1:f8ed:cf45:26dc:a305 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465318337 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465318408 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465318453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47162 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+1076) 10Created page with "This is a WIP project. Simple Lang: Simple Lang is a simple programming language designed to be easy to learn and read but hard to use. Values: There are two types of value i..." < 1465318460 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30d1:3c22:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1465318529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47163&oldid=47162 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+54) 10 < 1465318617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47164&oldid=47163 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+178) 10 < 1465318673 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465318710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47165&oldid=47164 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+64) 10 < 1465319844 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at the gate. < 1465319908 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am undefeated by your puny UTF-8 < 1465319982 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But soon I will be without internet, because I am not taking a first-class ticket... < 1465320102 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I survive 12 hours without internet accesss???!?! < 1465320116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :find out next time, on DRAGON BALL ZEEEEEE! < 1465320206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I built a new upper stage with three nuclear engines, and then docked it with a few large fuel tanks < 1465320218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a... probe?? < 1465320304 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting to jool is <2km/s, getting to sarnus shouldn't be much more < 1465320395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Jinhub 5* 10New user account < 1465320456 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan on having it visit all the moons of Sarnus and perhaps then swing out to Urlum or something, and then maybe even return to Kerbin, or I'll send out a cruiser to rendezvous with it in interplanetary space and collec the science... < 1465320538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nasa are amateurs. They should start bringing things home from Pluto. < 1465320617 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I build all my craft with a lot of extra deltav. My Duna probe ended up visiting Eve as well. < 1465320713 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It helps for example that my "LKO shuttle" can land on Minmus and return < 1465320763 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't build to spec, overbuild and then see what it can do! < 1465320952 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :real space programs can't afford to do that I suppose < 1465321286 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, interplanetary space < 1465321289 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've added that? < 1465321780 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes of cource you can visit variousplants < 1465321785 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*planets < 1465321845 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vegquneiizlhfhxy JOIN :#esoteric < 1465322020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DigitoriiX 5* 10New user account < 1465322245 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i installed some mods that add a bunch of new planets < 1465322373 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0130 < 1465322384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​İ < 1465322389 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1465322405 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my unicode is still borked < 1465322406 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyy < 1465322425 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1465322444 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1465322499 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, different terminal emulator < 1465322504 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's it. maybe. < 1465322547 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try using PieTTY < 1465322653 0 :DigitoriiX!4b805a3c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.128.90.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465322821 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:10e5:99c8:1f93:5cf5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465323609 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465323627 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465323949 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465324138 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1465324337 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465324698 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-fhirjnjxcjapylns QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1465325117 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0130 < 1465325122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​İ < 1465325138 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dgontoezewjkyaca JOIN :#esoteric < 1465325176 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0130 < 1465325179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​İ < 1465325208 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0130 < 1465325210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​İ < 1465325213 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh < 1465326268 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465326269 0 :izbr!?@? NICK :izabera < 1465326639 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:30d1:3c22:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465326866 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:10e5:99c8:1f93:5cf5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465327935 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1465328646 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465329138 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47166&oldid=47161 5* 03Sesshomariu 5* (+176) 10/* Examples */ < 1465329225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: how 'bout that olist, huh < 1465329406 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about it? < 1465329415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked first. < 1465329568 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-202-137-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465329629 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1039 has been olisted if that's the question < 1465329637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, by b_jonas. < 1465329654 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Redcloak casts some sort of funny life saving spell on himself that I didn't know < 1465329676 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're not really talking about the olist < 1465329695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is especially funny if you consider that the M:tG spells with the strange translated names are also lifesaving spells < 1465329703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they go into one door per day? < 1465329717 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, they just hide, wait, and follow the heros < 1465329726 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Tarquin did < 1465329737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You're not even in the olist list. < 1465329773 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hence the misunderstanding... I don't care about the comic < 1465329782 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I though "olist" means "olist" < 1465329787 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought even < 1465329810 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not "latest update to oots" < 1465329855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're apparently interested in olist updates, even if you're not interested in the underlying comic strip. < 1465329859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`makelist olistlist int-e < 1465329898 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey! are you trying to overwrite bin/olistlist ? < 1465329904 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does makelist check? < 1465329915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/olistlist < 1465329918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/olistlist: No such file or directory < 1465329931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like nolistlist < 1465330181 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://citra-emu.org/ cool < 1465330377 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465330709 0 :asie!~asie@asie.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465330712 0 :asie!~asie@asie.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1465330788 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I found out something about M:tG today and it sort of shocked me. you might already be aware of it < 1465330804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are German printings of two cards whose German names are identical, despite that their English names differ, and also this German name is identical to the English name of one of those cards. < 1465330828 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://magiccards.info/10e/de/290.html http://magiccards.info/m10/de/202.html < 1465330832 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that < 1465330884 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how common is it? and why are they doing it? is it just a stupid mistake? < 1465330906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you tell which card a translated card is? < 1465330907 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: very rare but not unheard of (there are a few similar examples), and mostly it's just by mistake < 1465330921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the English name appear somewhere on it? < 1465330935 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :regenerate... regeneration... poor translators! < 1465330936 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's actually a really interesting point < 1465330949 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :expansion symbol + collector number would be the obvious way to me < 1465330955 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure it's applicable in 100% of cases < 1465330970 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :art would be another way, and the way that most players use in practice, but that wouldn't work for promo cards < 1465330994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When would it not be applicable? < 1465331028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember correctly, officially the name is the only part of a card that really matters? < 1465331042 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People can paint over the rest of it if they want. Or something like that. < 1465331064 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the English name is the only part that officially matters < 1465331092 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when altering a card, I believe the rule is that you have to leave the name and mana cost visible, and the art has to depict what the card is about < 1465331118 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is why basic lands are the most commonly altered cards; if you alter a Forest, you just have to draw a forest, and there are a huge number of ways to do that) < 1465331119 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the official art rarely depicts what a card is about. < 1465331145 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is why altering is difficult < 1465331148 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vegquneiizlhfhxy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465331153 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for cards that depict a story character it isn't too hard < 1465331187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you have cards with identical non-English names, it seems like it would be problematic to alter them. < 1465331295 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: old cards don't have collector numbers, but old cards also don't have translated versions, and I'm not sure how these compare in time < 1465331321 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very old cards don't have expansion symbols < 1465331342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's a promotional card printed in Hebrew. < 14653313