< 1467504435 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467504508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467504643 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467504932 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467505080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off <-- i vaguely recall at some point seeing/reading that he used a reflective piece from the spaceship that brought him to Earth, presumably because Earth materials couldn't take it... < 1467505080 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467505118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] Don't remember which age superman it was, though. < 1467505118 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467505478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467505542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self (after checking wiktionary): do _not_ porthello moon in a particular obvious way. < 1467505588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...I can't find that particular way < 1467505597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(helloon is also a bit dubious, come to think of it) < 1467505599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not helloon and it's not melloon < 1467505605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hoon hth < 1467505607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-houd < 1467505607 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 8m 47s ago: It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off <-- i vaguely recall at some point seeing/reading that he used a reflective piece from the spaceship that brought him to Earth, presumably because Earth materials couldn't take it... < 1467505607 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 8m 9s ago: Don't remember which age superman it was, though. < 1467505609 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1467505656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion[1] btw, that one's very wholesome. < 1467505693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well if we use the dated meaning, then it becomes potentially complimentary < 1467505704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because english doesn't use square brackets in words < 1467505734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't think so. < 1467505744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pimp is not a compliment hth < 1467505761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It is in some circles < 1467505772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, it's a positive-connotation verb < 1467505783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "Pimp My Ride" < 1467505803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the noun is not hth < 1467505830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the origin of "pimp" is "Perhaps from Middle French pimpant ‎(“smart, sparkish”)." < 1467505842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose Etymology 4 is fine. < 1467505853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(African American Vernacular slang) A man who can easily attract women." < 1467505873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that one is good? Assuming that we don't consider that to be a douchebaggy trait to emphasize? < 1467505886 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467505889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think only African Americans can safely use that slang hth < 1467505916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1467505918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1467505950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is one of the few contexts where "African American" is appropriate- when referring specifically to people of African descent living in the US) < 1467505952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like one of those things which could get you an SJW internet lynching < 1467505961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably < 1467505976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, most things can < 1467505983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :src: Dictionarygate < 1467506007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably missed that one. < 1467506037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i've missed most of them, by the simple expediment of not reading such fora. < 1467506048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Some of the example sentences in OED referenced women, and others attributed jobs like "doctor" to men < 1467506050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exception, the aaronson one. < 1467506078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("radical" had the example "A radical feminist" and most traditionally-male jobs used masculine pronouns) < 1467506081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the OED is like ancient < 1467506105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, their choices in example sentences may not be optimal, but it's not really important enough to get angry about < 1467506148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :offensingularity < 1467506150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like if the constitution used "negro" to refer to blacks- it's not exactly what we would prefer, but it'd be too much trouble to change it for too little gain < 1467506158 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467506195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if"? i thought it did so? although in an obsolete part < 1467506201 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the US one) < 1467506224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "pimp" is also five in Cumbrian and Welsh sheep counting < 1467506227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it might < 1467506233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't check for the purposes of the analogy < 1467506256 0 :zat!~ale@pc-121-247-100-190.cm.vtr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467506270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it didn't. < 1467506277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mentions Indians. < 1467506292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in the 3/5 paragraph i remembered. < 1467506304 0 :zat!~ale@pc-121-247-100-190.cm.vtr.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1467506305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's probably no reason to mention it otherwise. < 1467506332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probablt < 1467506334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*probably < 1467506345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe in one of the ammendments regarding voting? < 1467506400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, they wouldn't really have reason to reference any one race in particular < 1467506495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither the 13th or the 14th does, it seems. < 1467506553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed a mentioned in the 14th article that it had been interpreted to include other races < 1467506557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mention < 1467506607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people were against https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment#Text on the grounds that... it didn't allow women to have special rights for being women (e.g. working conditions or hours) < 1467506668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't know the original only had 7 articles < 1467506693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does #esoteric have a constitution for some reason? I can see it existing < 1467506698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, I can see a hacker constitution < 1467506707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1467506776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hits in https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_America < 1467506826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is, of course, supreme overlord of #esoteric < 1467506827 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: mr president, i read the sterling report of the working classes or financial support to the commission transferring all the unused appropriations from budget line fnord of the treaty, and we had to follow in all the directorates-general, and possibly modifying, the technical negotiations for the community's policy on mainstream and gender issues in development policy, of all the stages in the support of this roun < 1467506837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if fne ever manages to say something coherent, it is binding < 1467506957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful with that. there are some nasty things in the ct style. < 1467506964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1467506964 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1467506988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: who will bring an end to all? < 1467506988 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1467507029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you saying the sword will stop the world? < 1467507029 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. like that piano player. everyone's...! ...and the dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1467507042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elon musk doesn't count as an african american for ... reasons < 1467507251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well, he's south african-born, but there are white people in South Africa (see: Apartheid) < 1467507264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's Canadian-American, which is probably as white as you can get < 1467507269 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467507336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's probably also martian? < 1467507427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aliens/Life on mars, but it's just Elon Musk, somehow/Life-related chemicals/Cool extremophiles found on earth/No aliens < 1467507463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Theory: Elon Musk used the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" meme, then realized he was rich enough to actually do it) < 1467507529 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day I'll retire to the Moon < 1467507553 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least take a long vacation there < 1467507723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stealthily opens wikipedia/retirement to find potential jokes < 1467507762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the first one is "It's a shame, he was just a day from being put in a metal box and exploded off the surface of the earth" < 1467507829 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The software "Astrolog" does not allow you to center a horoscope on the Moon. Other software may allow it I don't know; something based on Swiss Ephemeris may allow you to then subtract the numbers and convert to polar coordinates and therefore you can make the calculation relative to Moon. Neither of these software can calculate house positions relative to anything other than the Earth though. (If you select heliocentric mode in Astrolog, it stil < 1467507887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In thailand, you retire at 60 (or 50 if you retire early) < 1467507901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the US is terrible < 1467507910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have 5% employment at the ages of 70+ < 1467507911 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But house positions relative to Sun should be possible if you can know where is the zero longitude on the surface of the Sun. Do you know where the zero longitude of Sun is? < 1467508004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 seems to be turning into fungot, but more coherent < 1467508004 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: cyrus! are you leaving! thou art and science... all to you! < 1467508305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh... rap music and discrete mathematics are similar in that the phrase "for reals" is frequently used... < 1467508361 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have a lot of interest in rap music so I would not know, but OK now we can know! < 1467508534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I believe Norway encourages people to continue working after retirement. < 1467508542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to ask oerjan to confirm that, though. < 1467508618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/158414-america-is-the-wealthiest-nation-on-earth-but-its-people < 1467508755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going by US tax law, retirement age is 59½ or greater. < 1467509117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1467509150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1467509162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're also in the process of removing the upper age limits. < 1467509164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ^ < 1467509179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the involuntary ones, that is. < 1467509198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What involuntary limtis? < 1467509219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway: The opposite of North Korea < 1467509226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you reach ... it may be 67? ... your employer can fire you for no reason. < 1467509234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you don't wish to retire. < 1467509264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised all the other ISISes haven't changed their names yet < 1467509275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. the Institute for Science and International Security) < 1467509282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah. < 1467509286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well the egyptian goddess probably just sneers at the idea hth < 1467509287 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467509289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the US your employer can fire you for no reason at any time. < 1467509312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard. < 1467509328 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467509340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Zimbabwe, you don't have an employer < 1467509380 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would help to change their name to help to distinguish them, so that you will not confuse one with other, but in the correct contexts it can be clear. For Egyptian gods you can write "Isis" without capitalizing all of the letters, so that is not the problem. < 1467509408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i think your employment automatically expires then, unless you _explicitly_ get an agreement to continue. although my memory is not reliable on the details. < 1467509422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in norway) < 1467509450 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Depends on the state actually. < 1467509520 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And technically (but uselessly), they can only fire you for non-discriminatory reasons. < 1467509531 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467509542 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but do not have to say why they're firing you) < 1467509542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The general rule is that they can, unless the particular state says otherwise < 1467509562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I said "for no reason, not "for any reason". < 1467509571 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes. < 1467509585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bammert v. Don's Super Valu, Inc., 646 N.W.2d 365 (Wis. 2002) the Wisconsin Supreme Court held that it was not contrary to public policy for an employer to dismiss an employee on grounds of her husband's drunk driving charge" < 1467509594 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most of the US but not all of it, it is literally legal to fire someone on the basis of "because". < 1467509619 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why not? < 1467509660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might say: In some of the US, it is literally illegal to stop paying someone money unless you have good reason. < 1467509664 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1467509677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pressed ^J instead of ^K while editing that sentence. < 1467509739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I think California employment law is considered pretty employee-friendly in many ways. < 1467509745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at-will employment is still standard here. < 1467509798 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As with most things in labor relations, it's complicated, and any particular setup has pros and cons, and what's the best depends on a lot of things... < 1467509799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the kind of stuff that makes americans sound like space aliens to me. < 1467509823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WHO TOLD YOU THAT IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG < 1467509837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, lately norwegians do too so... < 1467509855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What would be a less space-alien way of doing things? < 1467509858 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buuut, well. Employers tend to be bargaining from an incredibly advantageous position, that employees are not, and as such it can make sense to limit the power that an employer has over their employees. < 1467509887 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limiting reasons that an employer can dismiss an employee seems like reasonable in that light. < 1467509895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually trying to get a proper balance of power between employers and employees? < 1467509900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think it makes the most sense to vaporize troublesome employees from orbit < 1467509965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds good. < 1467509981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, employees actually cooperating in order not to get abused. < 1467509993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka unions) < 1467510008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should scrap unions and use intersections instead < 1467510114 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that some things that some things that employers would put in the contract to work should be prohibited, that both sides should be allowed to terminate employment at any time for any reason, and that minimum wage should be decreased to zero. < 1467510136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( stand here in the middle of this intersection until you agree to pay us properly ) < 1467510193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why not decrease the minimum wage to a negative amount? < 1467510245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that zzo38 doesn't understand how power imbalance works. < 1467510275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it is not necessary and will not help. However, it can still be possible to lose money due to having to pay for parking and various other kind of services and products and so on. But the wages themself should not be allowed to be negative; the minimum should be zero. < 1467510290 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that oerjan is in a country without a minimum wage. :P < 1467510297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: heh < 1467510319 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you're also in a country where unions are sufficiently strong that this is really a technicality. < 1467510371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. also we have a law (against "social dumping") which in certain cases allows enforcing union tariffs on non-unionized workers in an industry. < 1467510390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's e.g. been used in construction < 1467510408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that just "ionized"? < 1467510416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1467510680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.wikipedia lists for 2012: construction, ship building, agriculture and cleaning services < 1467510729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these are industries with major foreign workers and a history of abuse) < 1467510740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1467510749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a major amount of < 1467510801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the term is "Allmengjøring" and there's no english article) < 1467510812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nn < 1467511199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but have you considered the benefits that large companies see from exploiting workers < 1467511321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1467511351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467511873 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't even know what to think about unions < 1467512210 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think about intersections? < 1467513286 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467514027 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 80 < 1467514031 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 80: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1467514047 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: should danddreclist be edited twh < 1467514097 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibcicjxhdvyojvsj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never end up reading the updates these days anyway. ;-; < 1467514106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hynn < 1467514117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467514208 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1467514221 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can edit them by yourself if you want to though < 1467514246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit whom by yourself? < 1467514256 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibcicjxhdvyojvsj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the command to do so, so... < 1467514259 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit the danddreclist if you want to < 1467514272 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It looks OK to me though) < 1467514279 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if they are carved pips, scratching out the paint won't change the apparent value of the die... < 1467514298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: `sled hth < 1467514326 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: O, well, I don't know if it is carved pips or not, but because of what it says in the footnote (that I wrote), I will assume (for now) that they are not carved. < 1467514361 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, footnotes have nothing to do with it) < 1467514366 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is in the main text.) < 1467514471 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dice are big dice that can be used by ogres, so I don't know exactly its working < 1467514572 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they are these: http://www.orientaltrading.com/web/browse/processProductsCatalog?Nrpp=10000&sku=13674060&BP=PS490&ms=search&source=google&cm_mmc=Google-_-242030648-_-20452920848-_-Garden+Dice+Game&cm_mmca1=OTC%2BPLAs&cm_mmca2=GooglePLAs&cm_mmca3=PS490&cm_mmca4=FS39&cm_mmca5=Shopping&cm_mmca6=PLAs&cm_mmc10=Shopping&cm_mmca11=13674060&cm_mmca12=Garden+Dice+Game&gclid=CjwKEAjwzN27BRDFn9aAwLmH2yISJABWuEXcklu0LsVX_D0rO6w1wyL-46YQoJ7oKATadMn < 1467514596 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.242.253.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467514608 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it have so many query parameters? < 1467514625 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goo.gl/MGm5FU < 1467514663 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried omitting cm_mcca1 and everything after it and still found the page anyways. < 1467514683 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those dice do not look like carved pips to me as far as I can tell. < 1467514700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: whoa whoa whoa, posting url shorteners in irc for no reason is a bit rude < 1467514714 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if the dice are like those ones, then removing some of the dots should work < 1467514746 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i had a reason < 1467514749 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes exactly < 1467514752 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those look like fairly large foam dice, TBH. < 1467514757 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are wood < 1467514762 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1467514768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just post the canonical link, ? < 1467514770 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they are. < 1467514776 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says right there, it is wood < 1467514797 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because i didn't know how much i could delete without it going somewhere else, so it's easier just to click the url shortener button < 1467514811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a canonical URL right in the page. < 1467514820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: that would imply linking to a shock site via shortened url is rude, not that shortened urls are rude in themselves <-- no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. < 1467517069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1467517089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, if you click Twilight it counts in planck time < 1467517098 0 :Ipcipher!~pi@73.182.106.207 PART #esoteric : < 1467517539 0 :alercah!?@? NICK :^_^ < 1467517556 0 :^_^!?@? NICK :alercah < 1467517761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that wikipedia's featured article contains real life retirony < 1467517801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irony about retirement? < 1467517810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a tvtrope < 1467517880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically in any action movie, the life expectancy of any character drops badly if it is ever mentioned that they're just about to retire. < 1467517909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm never going to retire. Ever. < 1467517919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan. < 1467518000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has the impression tvtropes has recently improved their site design. istr it went through a period it was pretty atrocious. < 1467518040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i'm confusing with wikia, which still is. < 1467518071 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :TVtropes hasn't *significantly* changed their site design at all. < 1467518072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+when < 1467518077 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's changed, but not hugely. < 1467518313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What if they mention that they've already retired? < 1467518322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that they won't do their job maintaining the wisdom database? < 1467518335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens to their life expectancy then? < 1467518527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :skyrocketing hth < 1467518554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does swatting affect life expectancy < 1467518565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much unless you're a fly < 1467518625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never known a fly to swat anything < 1467518827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Retiring from minor roles on IRC can result in death, but only minor death on IRC < 1467518872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1437/) < 1467518877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they have some trouble holding the swatter < 1467518897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that relevant to anything < 1467518904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a comic strip < 1467518924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hover text < 1467518955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, the relevance is pretty minor < 1467518956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to link to a comic strip for every thought you have < 1467519005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Correct; only the ones for which there is a relevant xkcd < 1467519026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just be glad I'm not the supernatural fandom < 1467519028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, even if that comic strip has something vaguely related, you don't need to link to it < 1467519044 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'd link a comic for that comment but i cannot find one < 1467519066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1467519103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't < 1467519151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i can find is this reddit link hth https://www.reddit.com/r/RelevantXKCD/comments/24duue/looking_for_an_xkcd_about_how_theres_always_a/ < 1467519178 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to click on that < 1467519184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked you not to even do it < 1467519190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, they didn't actually find one. < 1467519210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didn't link to a comic. < 1467519220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some sort of cult of personality or what < 1467519228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is < 1467519260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the subreddit is of course about how there's always a relevant xkcd. < 1467519269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole phenomenon < 1467519295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time someone talks about sql injection someone links to that annoying bobby comic < 1467519295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1467519334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if that comic invented sql injection < 1467519334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is there an xkcd comic about people getting tired of memes ) < 1467519742 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl Harbor < 1467519781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's what I was looking for < 1467519787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's the meme density one? < 1467519805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh! The one where he saves old memes to use them again when everyone's forgotten! < 1467520010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does HTCPCP support unfalsifiable claims? < 1467521655 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467521658 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467521813 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467522215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polygraphs aren't very good < 1467522220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should upgrade to omnigraphs < 1467522349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some good monographs. < 1467522355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're probably going in the wrong direction. < 1467522425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What about nilgraphs? < 1467522428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides you are mixing greek and latin again < 1467522442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's OK, English mixes Greek and Latin all the time. < 1467522447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "hexadecimal" < 1467522459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats you both -----### < 1467522468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1467522475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the fun of a swat is getting hilighted tdnh < 1467522531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats whoever invented "hexadecimal" in absentia -----### < 1467522597 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467522656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaving -> < 1467522683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1467522696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan shaves? < 1467522724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1467522731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day or two < 1467522744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1467522773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you feel about people pronouncing the 'j' in your name as 'zh' < 1467523153 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467523871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467525050 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:652e:88:e718:8ffe PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what about 'h'? < 1467525495 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i pass as a size to __builtin_apply in gcc with vararg functions? < 1467526019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: infidels! < 1467526104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: no such thing. < 1467528829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467528840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm pretty sure "oerjan" is the IPA spelling hth < 1467528866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I wonder if there are any easter eggs hidden in the IPA ) < 1467529033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure you're wrong hth < 1467529056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think only the j and n are right. < 1467529264 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.242.253.107 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467529404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn seems best-pronounced in a Schwarzenegger voice < 1467529458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, there's "Mr. Universe" but no "Dr. Multiverse" < 1467529462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see an opening < 1467529773 0 :MDude!?@? 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NICK :AnotherTest < 1467547502 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@96-103.kg.ftth.internl.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467547507 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@96-103.kg.ftth.internl.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467548152 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467548445 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467549087 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: guess what, I just vacated your state. < 1467549277 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467549745 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467549851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467550042 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Wat? < 1467550053 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Which state? < 1467550071 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467550119 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alaska. < 1467550228 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh? < 1467550231 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacated as in left? < 1467550271 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it you went through our Series of Tubes Memorial Airport? < 1467550273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hmm, did you leave behind any surprises? < 1467550315 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anything e left would look out of place among anything else < 1467550385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a non-answerable question, of course; once revealed it would no longer be a surprise) < 1467550414 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever get to be in charge of a polygraph, I'm asking "Is the answer to this question no?" < 1467551383 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467552193 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467555151 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467555655 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467555753 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467558891 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467559297 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467559534 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1467562663 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5f7:bd47:cc03:883e JOIN :#esoteric < 1467562919 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5f7:bd47:cc03:883e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467563283 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:70e4:f028:3500:e61 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467563414 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ggjktzkvnxozoolo JOIN :#esoteric < 1467563579 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467566103 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467566113 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1467569912 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c90a:2fb2:9f2b:44ff JOIN :#esoteric < 1467570173 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c90a:2fb2:9f2b:44ff QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467570410 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467570668 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9593:dca9:ee4e:dbe6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467570745 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:652e:88:e718:8ffe QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467571477 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:6d68:36d9:7106:efba JOIN :#esoteric < 1467571501 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467575235 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467575583 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467576948 0 :sesshomariu!2efd3874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.56.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467576968 0 :sesshomariu!2efd3874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.56.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so thats da irc < 1467576970 0 :sesshomariu!2efd3874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.56.116 QUIT :Client Quit < 1467577016 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1467577072 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :da irc was quiet < 1467577278 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467577755 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ggjktzkvnxozoolo QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467578348 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. <-- this seems obviously false. posting a shortened link and saying "this is a link to X" and it is should not be rude, unless trigger warnings are also rude. a link poster is not rude because someone else has a personal p < 1467578349 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467578355 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1467578454 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan it should be the job of the person with the personal policy to paste the link into getlinkinfo.com if they want to see where the link goes. < 1467578454 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467578643 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan or else, perhaps even easier, configure their terminal or browser to automatically send shortened links there < 1467578643 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467578809 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9593:dca9:ee4e:dbe6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467579248 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-dhwdvhmsoelsrrmi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467581169 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teltegjyuyygqfvx JOIN :#esoteric < 1467581326 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467581815 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ebgshxvdfxkjqgav JOIN :#esoteric < 1467582495 0 :moonheart!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1467582499 0 :moonheart!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1467582827 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467583498 0 :moonheart!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467584434 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467585269 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467586465 0 :moonythedwarf!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :mop < 1467587018 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467587250 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have recommendations for a cross-device password manager? < 1467587726 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just spent several hours trying to build a thing where the main shell script did something like this for every command: cmd > logfile 2>&1 < 1467587759 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467588452 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1467589405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467589576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-foul < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 7m 7s ago: no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. <-- this seems obviously false. posting a shortened link and saying "this is a link to X" and it is should < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :not be rude, unless trigger warnings are also rude. a link poster is not rude because someone else has a personal p < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 5m 22s ago: it should be the job of the person with the personal policy to paste the link into getlinkinfo.com if they want to see where the link goes. < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 2m 13s ago: or else, perhaps even easier, configure their terminal or browser to automatically send shortened links there < 1467589694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia i disagree. also it's your job to fix your client so your messages don't get cut off hth < 1467589694 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467589820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia as a more general rule, it is rude to push work on several others that it is easier for you to do yourself. < 1467589821 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467589841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just _knows_ he'll get that one back. < 1467589851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(karmically) < 1467589923 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :most systems have a max level of scripts they can run with a shebang < 1467589934 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point the kernel just returns ELOOP < 1467589943 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized you can bypass this with /usr/bin/env < 1467589985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that reminds me < 1467590003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does HackEgo support running scripts as #! interpreters < 1467590010 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1467590023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that makes an idea i had much easier. < 1467590061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/*input < 1467590072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1467590083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/*input: No such file or directory < 1467590086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/print* < 1467590092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ "$#" -gt 0 ]; then printf '%s\n' "$*"; else cat; fi < 1467590106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to make a version of that can be used as a #! < 1467590121 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :else cat "$@" < 1467590132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1467590133 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then $# will never be 0 < 1467590151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1467590164 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :add shift at the beginning < 1467590172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1467590177 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no shift < 1467590188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok but i need to save what's shifted first < 1467590190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee < 1467590204 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :var=$1; bro do you even shift < 1467590235 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok just need to find out where the args go < 1467590245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/print* < 1467590249 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/print_args_or_input < 1467590286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what to call the modified script < 1467590353 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just shebang_args_or_input < 1467590381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would be like #!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python