< 1468022437 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: Star Wars is Disney's now, they take all Star Wars videos down < 1468022446 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyright inthingy thing < 1468022452 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intimidation < 1468022467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah, but at least someone would have protested and won I would think < 1468022489 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure they would in this case < 1468022542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: You can't really get anything Star Wars out of people moving things with the force in rapid succession < 1468022560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Hell, Disney probably would've done it by now < 1468022563 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1468022576 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 2005 ruling on Replenish says "Auras can only be placed on permanents that were on the battlefield before this effect started to resolve. You can't put an enchantment onto the battlefield with Replenish and put an Aura that is also entering the battlefield onto one of those enchantments." < 1468022587 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to determine what to enchant before you put them to the battlefield < 1468022592 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1468022596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here's one: https://youtu.be/3IA-3C9dRSA < 1468022611 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that ruling would also apply to other similar effects < 1468022620 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then I think Simic Guildmage might be the only way < 1468022641 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some other cards that reattach auras, but they don't work in this case < 1468022651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1468022773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciaoily! < 1468022825 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if I have two Power Taints enchanting each other, both with a liquimetal coating, there's a Teferi's Realm in play, and I choose to exile all artifacts? < 1468022850 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, what happens in the next untap step when the two taints try to unphase < 1468022978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Teferi's REalm < 1468022980 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teferi's Realm \ 1UU \ World Enchantment \ At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses artifact, creature, land, or non-Aura enchantment. All nontoken permanents of that type phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during his or her next unta < 1468023037 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 702.25g says: If an object would simultaneously phase out directly and indirectly, it just phases out indirectly. < 1468023037 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, same question if only one of the Taints has a coating < 1468023058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: heheh < 1468023058 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they remain phased out forever? < 1468023061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name power taint < 1468023062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power Taint \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant enchantment \ At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted enchantment's controller, that player loses 2 life unless he or she pays {2}. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ US-C < 1468023114 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: agreed, that rule seems to imply that they'd phase out permanently < 1468023155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks boily forgot to chicken out. < 1468023157 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't indirectly phased out permanents still phase in? < 1468023175 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the phasing rules are complicated and I never even had the illusion of understanding them < 1468023208 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indirectly phased out permanents phase in along with the permanent it is attached to (rule 702.25f). < 1468023228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1468023241 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what if only one of the Taints was coated? then one phases out directly and one indirectly < 1468023244 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1468023259 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is the indirect phasing recursive so both phase out indirectly again? < 1468023395 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"702.25f When a permanent phases out, any Auras, Equipment, or Fortifications attached to that permanent phase out at the same time. This alternate way of phasing out is known as phasing out “indirectly.” An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out indirectly won’t phase in by itself, but instead phases in along with the permanent it’s att < 1468023395 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ached to." < 1468023445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"702.25h An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out directly will phase in attached to the object or player it was attached to when it phased out, if that object is still in the same zone or that player is still in the game. If not, that Aura, Equipment, or Fortification phases in unattached. ..." < 1468023469 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seem to me it would be recursive, so both phase out indirectly, but you should ask Wizards of the Coast anyways, I think < 1468023671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: by the way, have you tried to make a card that directly affects a phased out permanent specifically? < 1468023680 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as moves it to another zone < 1468023725 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not remember but you can look up everything I have published < 1468023758 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there's Phase In < 1468023962 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. phone and IRC don't mix hth < 1468024144 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1468024179 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :havent seen you in here last few evenings < 1468024314 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468024428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, crazy idea. You have in play a Graf Rats, and also a Chittering Host (melded card) that's cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers. Graf Rats's ability triggers, so you exile both Graf Rats and Chittering Host. Then you're supposed to check the two exiled cards if they're a melded pair, but it turns out you have three exiled cards. Do you meld anythin < 1468024428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g, and if so, which Graf Rats? < 1468024447 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Graf Rats and Midnight Scavengers meld to Chittering Host.) < 1468024508 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could even find four cards in exile this way, and they could even be two Hanweir Battlements and two Hanweir Garrison. < 1468024530 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, this is too crazy < 1468024606 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or you could have a manifested face down Hanweir Garrison cytoshaped to a Graf Rats, and a manifested face down Hanweir Battlements cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers. < 1468024653 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468024656 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from rel notes) "712.2. One card in each meld pair has an ability that exiles both that object and its counterpart and melds them. To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined (see rule 701.34, “Meld”). The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards." < 1468024692 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia! social life happened. < 1468024708 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"701.34b Only two cards belonging to the same meld pair can be melded. Tokens, cards that aren’t meld cards, or meld cards that don’t form a meld pair can’t be melded." < 1468024762 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"12.4c If an effect can find the new object that a melded permanent becomes as it leaves the battlefield, it finds both cards. (See rule 400.7.) If that effect causes actions to be taken upon those cards, those actions are taken upon each of them." < 1468024762 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's no time for that. it's sgdq week AND camp nanowrimo! < 1468024780 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in your opinion, which is the most famous real chimp in history? < 1468024782 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: isn't nanowrimo in november? < 1468024811 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468024823 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :second camp is july < 1468024845 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"701.34a Meld is a keyword action that appears in an ability on one card in a meld pair. (...) To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined. The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards." < 1468024870 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have to perform that on each of the exiled cards that came from exiling the melded permanent < 1468024901 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as restricte by 701.34b < 1468025141 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if there's no valid object to enchant, then you attach the aura to Gnome Ann) < 1468025168 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well good night < 1468025175 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468025199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: shocking < 1468025334 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: lucy. < 1468025342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucy was a chimp? < 1468025346 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know! lots of sudden boardgaming! < 1468025349 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I... guess so? < 1468025491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's rather misinterpreted hth < 1468025556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oh there was a chimp called lucy < 1468025566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid non-injective naming < 1468025690 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there more than one damous non-human lucy? < 1468025693 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*famous < 1468025707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes, although the other was prehistoric hth < 1468025735 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i'm willing to grant australopithecus provisional humanity :P < 1468025753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucy the chimp seemed to have a sad ending < 1468025777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norway, the most famous chimpanzee would be julius < 1468025870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems to be getting along better these days. < 1468025932 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1468026015 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Considering that some people advocate for considering chimps "human" that's not completely crazy to grant. < 1468026022 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION supports chimps and other fuzzy animals < 1468026095 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah it seems kind of arbitrary to say "you're not a human unless you understand the concept of a teacher intentionally helping you" < 1468026668 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :vr game idea: you and a friend stand on a giant room-sized NES controller, jumping onto the buttons to play SMB1 < 1468026834 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1468026836 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks < 1468026880 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a giant NES controller, downtown on Ste-Catherine, with classic NES games projected on a building wall. that'd fit with the art installations. < 1468026884 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better if it weren't VR. < 1468026891 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1468026896 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's get crackalacking on that < 1468027110 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :build it out of maple, commission an art collective for a post-modern paintjob, hook a 'duino on the innards, rasp pi for the games, and bob's your uncle. < 1468027390 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bill's his name actually, but close enough < 1468027500 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468027648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: obviously, if you did this he would change his name to bob < 1468027727 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take your word for it < 1468027805 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we can just buy and disassemble a steel dance pad, save half the work of making the buttons durable to people jumping on them < 1468027946 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but... maple... < 1468027955 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a sentimental attachment towards maple < 1468028248 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468028397 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468028583 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here to be educated thoroughly. What is haskell used for < 1468028600 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming < 1468028605 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1468028623 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks babe < 1468028629 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: time to increment your relcome counter < 1468028636 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: just watch me :D < 1468028640 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ratpuke < 1468028648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09ratpuke: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1468028657 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rainbow welcome nice < 1468028666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used for experimenting with functional programming features, mostly < 1468028673 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To bad its default black and white on my end < 1468028711 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any day to day uses < 1468028946 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too bad for writing compilers and similar tree-walking programs < 1468028966 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm < 1468028971 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good < 1468028974 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's good for testing theories in computer science empirically < 1468028990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via coding them in Haskell directly < 1468029012 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might try it out < 1468029086 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very nice for parsing data and mashing it in mysterious ways. < 1468029200 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: only an hour now until the SMM blind kaizo team relay race starts < 1468029207 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for me to walk home < 1468029269 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1468029333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: less than an hour, it's going to start very soon < 1468029335 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'rr already in setup < 1468029349 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try refreshing the schedule, it changes over time as runs go ahead and/or behind < 1468029572 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: good walk! don't get lost! don't get bitten by any wandering cryptid! < 1468029771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468029815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those wereticks can be nasty < 1468029917 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only fear "mouches à chevreuils". those bastards can make you bleed even if they bite through your clothes. < 1468029970 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:horseflies. < 1468029974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468029974 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks wikipédia < 1468029978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, wikipédia. Thikipédia. < 1468030045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're pulling my klegg < 1468030091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468030126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm confusing with knott < 1468030143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was wondering why he'd thought they were tiny < 1468030148 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confusing with klogg < 1468030154 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats oerjan --------### < 1468030158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google klogg < 1468030159 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theneverhood.wikia.com/wiki/Klogg < 1468030159 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Klogg - The Neverhood Wiki - Wikia < 1468030174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUgrkdzO6Ao < 1468030191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like an upstanding citizen < 1468030266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:biting midges, it seems < 1468030274 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KjOXd7luraM/hqdefault.jpg ← an example of what they can do. caveat "not my legs" emptor. < 1468030550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :caveat not clicking hth < 1468031775 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go understand my mattress. < 1468031778 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! < 1468031788 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REWIND CHICKEN < 1468031925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1468031929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1468031931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1468031946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that TIMEFORMAT line need an export? < 1468031974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm maybe it's only for use in an internal bash command? < 1468031988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` time echo hi < 1468031990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real: 0m0.003s, user: 0m0.000s, sys: 0m0.000s \ hi < 1468031999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run time echo hi < 1468031999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ real 0m0.001s \ user 0m0.000s \ sys 0m0.000s \ hi < 1468032007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1468032008 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would need an export, time is a bash internal. < 1468032012 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*but < 1468032034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1468032077 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is not true of all shells though; other shells will end up executing the time binary in the PATH) < 1468032725 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468032735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives today's mezzacotta full score on basis of the middle panel's absurdity. < 1468032915 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e477:a7c1:6156:23c9 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1468032991 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a8ef:c934:3ab1:95d JOIN :#esoteric < 1468033446 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468033732 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468034304 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the new Magic: the Gathering cards I made up will temporarily replace the rules text of one card with that of another card. < 1468034378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: spell, permanent, or card in hand? < 1468034395 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd recommend doing it on permanents, otherwise overload/arcane could give problems < 1468034441 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does only affect permanents and can take the text only from permanent cards. < 1468034479 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :{X1}, {T}, Discard a permanent card with converted mana cost X: Target permanent's rules text becomes the discarded card's rules text until end of turn. Monstrosity 1. Scry 1. < 1468034650 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the monstrosity? < 1468034650 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that still makes the rules sad, but there's at least a chance that might work. Maybe. < 1468034676 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't prevent you using the ability multiple times < 1468034677 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just random < 1468034681 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is part of another card, which is why the monstrosity is there; it is just instead of a separate ability < 1468034701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Same thing with scry) < 1468034720 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a complex card! < 1468034734 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is. < 1468034767 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look up that (and other) card in my collection of made up cards < 1468035000 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468036348 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468037708 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468038310 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468038815 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for a language were the future code changes what the previous code should be. < 1468038833 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468038872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome wanderlust < 1468038894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like Feather < 1468038895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? feather < 1468038900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled by the oerjan < 1468038907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is alas vaporware) < 1468038911 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1468038913 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1468038923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is vaporware Feather? < 1468038935 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know < 1468038936 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468038942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're confusing zzo38 and ais523 < 1468038945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanderlust: < 1468038945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468038951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also possibly Feather and TwoDucks < 1468038974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was a timeout. < 1468038990 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468038998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: vaporware is a common acquaintance of zzo38's and mine < 1468039004 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1468039041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? father < 1468039043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TwoDucks is also time traveling, but i'm not sure it's self modifying. < 1468039044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :father? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468039111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Father is an ancestor of Feather. < 1468039176 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather can retroactively modify both data and code < 1468039198 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although to retroactively modify code, you need to go back to a point in time at which it was data < 1468039203 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought it could also retroactively modify the compiler? < 1468039206 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1468039241 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the interpreter is being interpreted by another Feather interpreter < 1468039266 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you basically just have to find the data source that the outer interpreter is using for the source of the inner interpreter and change that < 1468039291 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this being Feather, there is probably some way to change the entire infinite stack of compilers stretching back forever; I'd be surprised if there wasn't < 1468039292 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\me is impressed with the recommendation < 1468039327 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I get confused when trying to work out how the whole thing works < 1468039336 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps unsurprisingly < 1468039341 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*infinite stack of interpreters < 1468039512 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAARGH < 1468039535 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to generate my font and FontForge keeps crashing < 1468039593 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this time it won't crash < 1468039660 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I ought to work faster on my bdf2ttf program < 1468039705 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what happens if two of them us the same data source? or is that prohibited by the theoretical model? < 1468039729 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: most outright attempts to create a paradox end up leading to an infinite loop in Feather's model < 1468040018 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time travel model is actually quite simple, it's just call/cc < 1468040455 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, this time it isn't crashing, it's just taking forever to vectorize the font. < 1468040830 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/07/08/i-hate-you-japans-anime-style-mobile-romance-game-starring-girls-who-will-never-ever-love-you/ < 1468040861 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dating sim: realism overhaul < 1468040914 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time < 1468040920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1468040922 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468040924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeeeeeesh//See yeeeeeeeesh. < 1468040930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeeeeesh < 1468040934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeeeeeesh. < 1468040939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, this is why we need the jammed up rnooodl. < 1468040942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeeeesh < 1468040943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeeeeesh. < 1468040950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeesh < 1468040951 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yesh < 1468040956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468040956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468040962 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeesh < 1468040964 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeesh. < 1468041255 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ttf < 1468041257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 cat wisdom/y*sh < 1468041290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:See yeeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeesh. \ See yeeeesh. \ See yeeesh. \ See yeesh. < 1468041292 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torturous Toxin Font < 1468041355 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl Telemetry Font < 1468041413 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tcl < 1468041414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041445 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bash < 1468041447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041457 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perl < 1468041458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language < 1468041467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits perl < 1468041471 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman < 1468041485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that's not PERL? < 1468041487 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? python < 1468041488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python = ProgrammingLanguage(attrs=[plattrs['WHITESPACE_SENSITIVE'], plattrs['INTERPRETED'], *plparadigms['IMPERATIVE', 'FUNCTIONAL']]) < 1468041498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/python < 1468041503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468041508 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits wisdom/python < 1468041513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468041517 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1468041521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much wisdom < 1468041522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits python < 1468041526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf hppavilion[1] < 1468041537 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lisp < 1468041538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix))) < 1468041538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lisp < 1468041540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix))) < 1468041544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/lisp < 1468041546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468041548 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jinx < 1468041549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jinx? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041572 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1468041573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1468041576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :JINX Is Not XENIX < 1468041580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits c < 1468041586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1468041619 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d < 1468041621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language. < 1468041630 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? x < 1468041631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041642 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a < 1468041643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1468041663 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b < 1468041663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bbc < 1468041668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether. < 1468041668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. < 1468041685 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? e < 1468041686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041692 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? j < 1468041695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041713 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? w < 1468041714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#\.#, and villages in Norway# < 1468041725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation, and villages in Norway Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. < 1468041735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1468041736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1468041762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1468041764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway# < 1468041769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway Taneb invented it. < 1468041778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1468041784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1468041785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1468041787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1468041788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1468041790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1468041804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't turn back now < 1468041811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway.# < 1468041814 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway. Taneb invented it. < 1468041845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls ? < 1468041847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ^ \ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ * \ \ \ ☃ \ ⊥ \ ꙮ \ ⌨ \   \ 𝕈 \ 🐐 \ 🐚 \  \ 0 \ 1 \ 9 \ a \ å \ Å \ b \ c \ d \ i \ k \ l \ o \ ø \ Ø \ ß \ u \ y \ э \ Э \ Я < 1468041877 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ☃ < 1468041878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. < 1468041884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1468041917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Я < 1468041918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how can I look up arbitrary Unicode wisdoms when I only have an ASCII keyboard? < 1468041937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1468041940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? should support punycode or something. < 1468041955 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: use tmux to copypaste < 1468041956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom Я < 1468041958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я//Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet < 1468041968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Я < 1468041969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041973 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1468041977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1468041979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; < 1468041985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Э < 1468041986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1468041988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lowercase < 1468041990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed 's/./\l&/g;s/Ø/ø/g' < 1468041999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see. < 1468042026 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom э < 1468042028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Э//EH? < 1468042050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | diff - ../tmp/w < 1468042053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1468042063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | lowercase | diff - ../tmp/w < 1468042066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24c24 \ < å \ --- \ > Å \ 33c33 \ < ø \ --- \ > Ø \ 38,39c38,39 \ < э \ < я \ --- \ > Э \ > Я < 1468042078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 핈 < 1468042079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​핈? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1468042093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For consistency, `? should be renamed to `cwt < 1468042105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bin/lowercase < 1468042111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g;s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ ` echo sed \'s/./\\l&/g\' > bin/lowercase \ ` echo tr A-Z\xc3\x98 a-z\xc3\xb8 > bin/lowercase \ ` sed -i "s!z!z | sed \'s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'!" bin/lowercase \ revert \ bin/lowercase < 1468042229 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042245 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¿ < 1468042247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? < 1468042248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Я < 1468042250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet < 1468042264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. i knew izabera's changes would break stuff. < 1468042275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1468042296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you confirming, or just pronouncing the letter aloud? < 1468042300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1468042317 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : や < 1468042320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1468042327 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヤ < 1468042330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What was that pun that you didn't get the other day? < 1468042333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :矢 < 1468042373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to explain it but I forgot. < 1468042374 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468042394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm tmp/w < 1468042396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1468042397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Single-layer perceptron networks can't compute xor. < 1468042432 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ꮿ < 1468042502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you can try those that weren't working again now, i just fixed a recently introduced feature. < 1468042559 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :丨ㄚ < 1468042580 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468042587 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 핈 < 1468042589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​핈? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042600 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Э < 1468042601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EH? < 1468042627 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468042628 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? э < 1468042631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1468042647 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ☃ < 1468042648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. < 1468042655 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468042665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh i suspected xor was involved. < 1468042687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was bound to happen hth < 1468042701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm more familiar with circuit complexity than neural networks. < 1468042811 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY the autotrace finished! < 1468042844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but are you familiar with hugs < 1468042893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1468042895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1468042905 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1468042906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1468042917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bird < 1468042918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird bird bird bird < 1468042929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1468042930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used hugs for several years hth < 1468042958 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hg < 1468042959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042963 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hug < 1468042966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hug? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh < 1468042988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1468043000 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh is the subjunctive tense of a future hth < 1468043091 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hg/hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury. < 1468043096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hg» < 1468043118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1468043119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious articled cackling zombie underlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1468043137 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#under#oever# < 1468043140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie oeverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1468043186 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sled < 1468043189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`sled // < 1468043203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/oe/ø/ < 1468043205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1468043274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's funny, i don't even know real hg. < 1468043306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slwd < 1468043307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slwd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468043359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn slwd/`slwd // < 1468043362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «slwd» < 1468043408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/slwd < 1468043410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sled "wisdom/$1" < 1468043506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sled < 1468043507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1468043527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was going to do a clever `slwd ../bin/slwd thing < 1468043535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i didn't have one < 1468043536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1468043546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sad trombone* < 1468043669 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo wo wowowowowo < 1468043758 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh why is fontforge getting so sloooooooow < 1468045308 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:81e7:3f26:5a11:5a66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468045400 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468045672 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468045687 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1468045698 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uploadted the new version! < 1468045701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :悦悩惑惜惧惨惰愁愉愚慄慈慌慎慕慢慨慮慰慶憂憎憚憤憧憩憬憶憾懇懐懲懸 < 1468045704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⚝⚞⚟⚠⚡⚢⚣⚤⚥⚦⚧⚨⚩⚲⚳⚴⚵✍✎✐⤧⤨⤩⤪⤫⤬⤭⤮⤯⤰⤱⤲⤳⤸⤹⤺⤻⤼⤽⥂⥃⥄⥅⥆⥇⥊⥋⥌⥍⥎⥏ < 1468045707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⥐⥑⥒⥓⥔⥕⥖⥗⥘⥙⥚⥛⥜⥝⥞⥟⥠⥡⥢⥣⥤⥥⥦⥧⥨⥩⥪⥫⥬⥭⥮⥯⧨⧩⧪⧫⧬⧭⧮⧯⧰⧱⧲⧳㋐㋑㋒㋓㋔㋕㋖㋗㋘㋙㋚㋛㋜㋝㋞㋟ < 1468045711 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋠㋡㋢㋣㋤㋥㋦㋧㋨㋩㋪㋫㋬㋭㋮㋯㋰㋱㋲㋳㋴㋵㋶㋷㋸㋹㋺㋻㋼㋽㋾㍱㍲㍳㍴㍵㍶㍷㍸㍹㍺㍻㍼㍽㍾㎀㎁㎂㎃㎄㎅㎆㎇㎈㎉㎊㎋ < 1468045714 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1468045741 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ported my bot to discord and finally went to learning node.js < 1468045812 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have passed the 8000 character mark < 1468045881 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone wants the SRC im willing to share it < 1468045893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That sounds like quite a novel. < 1468046132 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1468046581 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA Elixir and Rust have warts that, if you squint, look similar < 1468047227 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: like waht? < 1468047249 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, functions with optional arguments can't be captured as a function argument with optional arguments, just the different possible arities are each one possible function. Funnily, this reminds me of a Rust wart, you can have generic functions, but can't capture them as a value that takes generics. < 1468047308 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses HexChat copy behavior < 1468047315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: When are you scheduled to get obsessed with Swift? < 1468047328 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: Sure, but the Rust one will be fixed once HKT is ever implemented, and in Elixir, you don't want to store functions for very long, so you're probably not passing them to somebody who would want the optional argument behaviour. < 1468047375 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``once ... is ever'' interesting construction < 1468047376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `once: not found < 1468047412 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :simultaniously implying soon and not soon < 1468047412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even `once < 1468047486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should've used `àwesome quoteś´ < 1468047511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the < 1468047518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps ònce-awesome quoteś < 1468047531 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode `à < 1468047532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0060 GRAVE ACCENT] [U+00E0 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE] < 1468047541 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1468047782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you've made a grave error < 1468047836 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1468048071 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, not sure. An interest in iOS would probably help. < 1468048085 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I briefly wondered about Objective-C but lost interest < 1468048107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Swift runs on Linux. < 1468048115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has algebraic data types and everything you like. < 1468048138 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-C is a strict superset of C as far as I know, so any C code will also work in a Objective-C program. < 1468048158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is a strict superset of a strict subset of C. < 1468048175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So any C code which is also C++ code is also C++ code. < 1468049117 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468049139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468050305 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1468050524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm what should I add next? < 1468052774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a code if(rom_here-instruction_pos<17 && rom[instruction_pos]==(cell)0x8BBE+rom_here-instruction_pos) { but it says that "+rom_here-instruction_pos" is an invalid suffix for an integer constant. Adding a space before the plus sign works though. < 1468052826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it do that? < 1468052834 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3e10 < 1468052840 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3e+10 < 1468052846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks a bit like a float? < 1468052954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Who says that? < 1468052972 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who says what? < 1468052985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this php < 1468053002 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is a C code < 1468053068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to make Crime Statistics Bureau - San Francisco into a real TV show < 1468053074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSB:SF < 1468053077 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's te < 1468053080 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the cast? < 1468053083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll wait for everyone to google that before I expand on the joke) < 1468053143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the Dunning-Kruger effect should be renamed to the Trump effect < 1468053721 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3885 < 1468053873 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so it is supposed to work like that. < 1468053965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the meme version of the dunning-kruger effect is simply misinterpreted hth < 1468054005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I went to Wikipedia and it agrees with what I thought it is < 1468054015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just checked 538, and thank god, trump is unlikely to win < 1468054022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead, we get Clinton. < 1468054025 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the bugs marked as a duplicate of that one looks like it is not a duplicate < 1468054027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yeah, that's a relief < 1468054035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's a crazy person I slightly agree with < 1468054076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468054249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug 11494 is not a duplicate of bug 3885. < 1468054514 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm is C integer division flooring or truncating? Or is it implementation defined? < 1468054562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah < 1468054589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for an old news report about MLKj (preferably the first one about him on a national news station) < 1468054599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has to be on YT < 1468054601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can make a funny commnet < 1468054938 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im most likely the most dead man on earth. Duckgoosecrashes the server hbot runs on < 1468054980 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], plz tell me that this plan is not as shitheaded as it sounds < 1468054994 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468055260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How is it shitheaded? < 1468055302 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like you're trying to troll videos of MLK with stupid comments about recent events < 1468055515 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if that is what you're doing, well, i genuinely quite like you and i would be very disappointed to see you get sucked into destructive hatred < 1468056172 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468057001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say what you like about Trump, but if he becomes president, there will be a HUGE boost to export < 1468057007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Primarily in the export of Mexicans < 1468057327 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: IIRC it depends on the C version; in C11 / is defined to truncate towards zero; earlier versions only defined / for nonnegative numbers and made the behvior on negative numbers implementation-defined. < 1468057492 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:81e7:3f26:5a11:5a66 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468057655 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, s/C11/C99/, apparently. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3602827/what-is-the-behavior-of-integer-division-in-c/3602857#3602857 < 1468058203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Quite < 1468058847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/foreign-body-rectum notes that "fruits and vegetables" are a common examp;e < 1468058853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/;/l/ < 1468058873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fruits and vegetables", of course, links to http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/ss/slideshow-exotic-fruits < 1468058885 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how interesting < 1468059037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You should not go looking for recipes immediately after you have removed a foreign body from your rectum, especially if said foreign body is an ingredient in those recipes < 1468059191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of don't get what you're doing in general, but listening to Phantom_Hoover is probably not a bad idea. < 1468060235 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1468061351 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468061363 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this guy doing? Doesn't he know this is a speedrunning event? He's lost frames on level 2. < 1468061392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, no, it's not about recent events. Exactly. I think. < 1468061401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It would be more of a joke about idiots on the internet < 1468061448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: MLK was a cool guy, and I have nothing against him; he's just the first person that I thought of to use as a vessel for the joke (also, I'm probably not going to watch it otherwise) < 1468061461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND it would probably be Fox News or something, so there's that < 1468061524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, now that I think about it, lots of people probably wouldn't get the joke < 1468062209 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this was horrible < 1468062256 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468062265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat? < 1468062273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, e's gone < 1468062573 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lulu.com/shop/brian-hall/beejs-guide-to-network-programming/paperback/product-18179133.html < 1468062606 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468063252 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-28-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1468063467 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468063647 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-28-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1468064511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's possible to make 2.5D, is it possible to make 3.5D? < 1468064593 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on how you define 2.5D... < 1468064636 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you consider Doom a 2.5D engine, then really all "2.5D" means is "3D with geometry restrictions due to optimization". You could probably apply the same logic to higher dimensions. < 1468064999 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what about pi d < 1468065199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, isn't I though 2.5D also used for parallax scrolling... < 1468065443 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends which meaning of 2.5D you're using, which makes things even more difficult... < 1468065795 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 blocks to go < 1468065823 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5D normally means 3D rendering but 2D player movement, ime? < 1468065874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, yet another meaning < 1468066025 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well smash and doom are the things that come to mind for 2.5D for me < 1468066046 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, i mean it's an inherently imprecise term < 1468066090 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :game maker used to have 3d rendering and 2d player movements < 1468066097 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun < 1468066137 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was up to at least game maker 6, idk if it's real 3d now < 1468066149 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Trials" series -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_(series) -- is I think sometimes called 2.5D as well. < 1468066195 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's (at least in the latest incarnations) very much a generic 3D renderer except the player character is restricted to a 2D "plane". < 1468066219 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's more of a twisting, turning track thing. < 1468066351 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: thinking about it the idea that parallax scrolling is 2.5D may date back to before 3D rendering became ubiquitous. < 1468066497 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess there's also the rendering term which is basically used for "rendering methods which try to look 3D without making everything into a polygon mesh" < 1468066664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I was excited to hear about a successor to "Limbo" which imho is a great (though creepy) 2D jump&run puzzle... but all the screenshots look 3D... less excited now. < 1468066665 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like raytracing with CSG? ;) < 1468066701 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.\.\./ game&/ < 1468066740 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIMBO was great. < 1468066743 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking about games fizzie, the only* games that use raytracing use it as prerendered images < 1468066754 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*im sure there's some dumb exception < 1468066765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer 2D rendering for 3D player movements < 1468066771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, that could actually work...) < 1468066798 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense that's what e.g. mario kart on the snes did < 1468066818 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_Wars:_Ray_Traced ... oh Larrabee ... hahahaha < 1468066890 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realtime raytracing gets done a lot in demoscene stuff. < 1468066891 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reason I'm laughing isn't that I think that the idea of having many general purpose CPUs on a chip isn't appealing... it's the idea that anybody would care about those CPUs being x86 compatible) < 1468066920 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure a lot of the time there's still polygon meshes involved, though. < 1468066966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLR4knU0rvM probably doesn't, but... < 1468067064 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468067140 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spheres, the second easiest object to raytrace in the universe (the truly easiest is the diamond, because then you can use manhattan distance, and working out the normal is just 3 comparisions and a table) < 1468067160 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there a worthy modern successor to povray? I'm looking for some sort of declarative, CSG based, language for describing scenes, plus a reasonable renderer. (and I'm in principle happy to still use povray for that) < 1468067190 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, a cube is surely easier than a sphere < 1468067210 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but then you have to work out the normal < 1468067243 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :still just a table, no? < 1468067243 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while with a sphere you can just normalize the position you hit at < 1468067259 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of any "spiritual successors" of POV-Ray. < 1468067271 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :reflective spheres are very common in raytracing because they are really easy to trace and really hard to render convincingly with other techniques. < 1468067373 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The original is still sort-of alive, though, I understand.) < 1468067408 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, it's still packaged for debian < 1468067464 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/graphs/commit-activity ... well. The numbers are non-zero, that's something. < 1468067545 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :refractive spheres too, for that matter < 1468067567 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it just fills this particular niche well enough that nobody wants to create a successor. < 1468067951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468068906 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468068938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468070745 0 :moses!~moses@124.123.87.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468070776 0 :moses!~moses@124.123.87.251 QUIT :Client Quit < 1468074210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468074772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468074789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the creature that feasts on dreams, btw < 1468074858 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they make a vacuum cleaner." -- Oscar Wilde < 1468075149 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting design for a vaccum cleaner... blowing the dust away < 1468075541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what the fuck Lady Gaga < 1468075551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with the swan < 1468075552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's weir < 1468075555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1468075560 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused < 1468075582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that "ContextBot" thing XKCD suggested might be good right now... < 1468076862 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468077810 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468077913 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1468077986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :associativity//Associativity means that h(th) = (ht)h, if you're flexible about it. < 1468078151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468078421 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1468078436 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you hype for tasbot block? < 1468078925 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1468078929 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasbot block? < 1468079741 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TASes! on SGDQ! < 1468081066 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1468081273 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Client Quit < 1468081278 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'd completely forgotten about SGDQ going on. :/ < 1468081288 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1468081371 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Client Quit < 1468081394 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I missed anything great? < 1468081425 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1468081677 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a great entering the code to begin the of the at the end of world < 1468081686 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1468081704 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess it depends on what you're interested in < 1468081723 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DK64 was glitchy and nice < 1468081732 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glitchy is generally fun. < 1468081772 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DK64 run involved a detour into multiplayer and glitching out of multiplayer to keep pickups in the single-player game < 1468081789 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creative routing < 1468083194 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1468083197 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 091523Z CCA 10009KT 15SM -SHRA BKN015 OVC020 19/16 A2978 RMK SC5SC3 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP085 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1468083210 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVCTV? < 1468083496 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468083880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :'CVCTV CLD - Convective Cloud' < 1468083897 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thint-ello. < 1468083905 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but afaiui, anything following RMK is not fully standardized anyway < 1468083998 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 more blocks before, well, perhaps nothing much happens. < 1468084107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about this some more and I figure it depends on how many of the bitcoin miners are opportunistic... selling off their hard earned bitcoins for the market price immediately < 1468084133 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those can just stop mining when the reward is halved and wait the transition out < 1468084328 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, they put up the runs on youtube afterwards. In fact they are not very far behind. Somewhere between 1 and 2 days behind < 1468084357 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, also I believe the TAS segment hasn < 1468084362 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't* started yet? < 1468084367 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1468084385 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, when is it? < 1468084398 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This evening or tonight, right? < 1468084507 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I think about 22:00 < 1468084515 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:44 PM TASBot plays Super Mario Land 2 < 1468084545 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The schedule isn't entirely fixed since it depends on earlier games, but about then < 1468084555 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1468084573 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I need to fix my sleep schedule for tomorrow though, so I probably won't be able to watch all of it < 1468084580 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1468084591 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw.. oh well < 1468084591 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468084625 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll watch the VOD afterwards < 1468084635 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Mario Maker is up on youtube now < 1468084643 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches < 1468084653 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? That might be more interesting than Diablo 2 indeed < 1468084690 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJV86j1-DuE < 1468084708 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the Mario Maker segment at AGDQ was great at least < 1468084713 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I pulled it up on my tablet next to me already... Seems to be a lot of setup in it though.... < 1468084784 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, two weird things here. All the other videos so far cut out the setup time. Also there is no pause music? < 1468084822 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I guess they don't want DMCA < 1468084918 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had videos before with setup time.. < 1468084933 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does youtube allow you to change the video after upload? maybe they upload it first and cut it later on < 1468084943 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1468085160 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to start about 22 minutes in < 1468085217 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, these levels are super-trolly < 1468085220 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1468085250 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, did you watch the Bethesda block? That was super-cool. < 1468085258 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing glitches < 1468085292 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't.. I guess I should watch that after this < 1468085304 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, Arena - Skyrim, all of them < 1468085314 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all of them are just hilarious. < 1468085494 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re. super trolly.. well they're pro players who regularly play Kaizo-style levels, so hey < 1468085502 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1468085515 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't find it fun to watch. < 1468085539 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468085543 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though granted this first stage seems a bit over-the-top < 1468085560 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I think I prefer the single-person showing off their skill style runs in general. (Though the Tetris segment was pretty cool) < 1468086243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun, a bitcoin block with a single transaction. < 1468086327 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently they (blockchain.info) count the reward payment as a transaction) < 1468086557 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So apparently they've made it. < 1468086798 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their software has a bug... https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000004db7eebf333b81f2529835102f7f7e86eca889287148885 lists the reward as 16.666BTC; dividing by 3 instead of 4... funny. < 1468086861 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to exploit it and make a shitload of money < 1468086878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it's just the website. < 1468086896 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's time to... exploit it and make a little amount of money? < 1468086920 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was time to notice it and mock the programmer < 1468086945 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you're poor, you're not in the right mindset < 1468086974 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"network propagation" is messed up < 1468086988 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's at the zero point < 1468086990 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you may be right < 1468087067 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: anyway, here's what I say: That programmer must have saved their company millions of CPU cycles! < 1468087082 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's on purpose! < 1468087084 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :those bastards < 1468087165 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something broken with bitcoin again? < 1468087227 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, somebody else tries to get some laughs out of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4s14gu/no_blockchaininfo_its_not_12_14_16/ < 1468087257 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nope, everything is going as designed... reward is halving every 210k blocks, and they just made it to 420k. < 1468087317 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the last time bitcoins were virtually worthless, so this time is a bit more interesting. impossible to predict though. < 1468087636 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next difficulty adjustment is 1344 blocks away. *hmm* < 1468087644 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468087678 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, so how many days? < 1468087680 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approx < 1468087691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, normally 144 blocks per day < 1468087737 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So within weeks then < 1468087772 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to with the reward halfed they may want to drop the difficulty in half which means they'd have to drag the ~10 days out to ~25? < 1468087812 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would require collusion... it's all so utterly unpredictable. < 1468087820 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um what? < 1468087859 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I see what you mean < 1468087894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the 25 number comes from the fact that the difficulty will be based on 2016 blocks, 1/3 of which have already been mined) < 1468088516 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :best use of pov ray so far https://imgur.com/gallery/HtZAWdi < 1468088612 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, basically, we live on discworld < 1468088683 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moment of ridicule is over too... < 1468088988 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468089386 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468089889 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1468089951 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, pokemon red race < 1468091536 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468091801 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PRESSURISED CHICKEN < 1468092659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468093202 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a8ef:c934:3ab1:95d QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468093294 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:b1bd:2a75:66b6:e652 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468094052 0 :JX7P!?@? NICK :NotJx7p < 1468094131 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1468094148 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468094311 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468095386 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1468095449 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ais523 left < 1468095456 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't congratulated him :( < 1468095526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did. < 1468095531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just wasn't around at the time. < 1468096312 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ttf format for contours is so annoying < 1468096372 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make a program for converting bdf to ttf but it is annoying me < 1468096598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you have an array of x coordinates, an array of y coordinates, and an array of flags. < 1468096686 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the array of flags has one entry for each point, which determines whther the x and y coordinates are each 16 bit or 8 bit. which means that the x coordinates can't be indexed, and neither can the y coordinates, without iterating through the falgs? < 1468096710 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468096741 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d92:e494:ac77:4cdc JOIN :#esoteric < 1468096742 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d92:e494:ac77:4cdc QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468097116 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution, presumably, is "why are you trying to iterate through the flags" < 1468097125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need to write a file, not read it < 1468097153 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(trying to read a font file is insanity anyway because, well, you also have to deal with so much internationalization madness) < 1468097856 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468098283 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: what internationalization? < 1468098307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually arranging the letters that you read from the font into something useful? < 1468098327 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1468098356 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bunch of prgrams already that manipulate ttf files, but none thta actually read or write contour data yet < 1468098399 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/allchars.htm is made by reading the character map data from the ttf file < 1468098493 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ttfinvread.htm < 1468098703 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost time for tasblock! < 1468098713 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you enjoy it! < 1468098727 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as usual, I have some idea of what's coming, and yet it's going to impress me /anyway/ < 1468098784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am purposely keeping myself in the dark regarding specifics < 1468098799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is tasblock? < 1468098839 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: SGDQ is a yearly speedrunning showcase for charity (there's two a year, the other is called AGDQ); tasblock is a section dedicated to games being spedrun via robots/programmable controllrs < 1468098961 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is speedrun not already a past participle? < 1468099035 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im surprised the room isnt more full. it was packed for the smm race < 1468099195 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Super Mario Land 2. < 1468099199 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played a lot of that. < 1468099610 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt but it looks cool. is wario the boss? < 1468099629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468099723 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1468099803 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if my saves are still there; I don't know what sort of non-volatile storage Game Boy carts have. < 1468099858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have battery-powered RAM I thing < 1468099878 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eventually the battery runs out and you have to replace it < 1468099925 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess my save's probably some 20 years old now. < 1468099954 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's the game that invented wario < 1468100096 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can back up the save file in your computer if you have the proper equipment to do so, so that if the battery is dead, you can still restore the save game file. (If you back up the ROM data too, then you can also play the game on your computer too.) < 1468100426 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I have now sucessfully automated the process of finding stray pixels < 1468100667 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have want to have a separate file format for glyphs and for metrics, so that you can use the proper glyph format depending on the device while common metrics formats can be in use. This format for metrics that I think of it assumes 32-bit characters, with no other assumptions made about the character set (such as which ones are control characters and so on). Any features relevant to typesetting other than the glyphs themself are programmed < 1468100696 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still unalbe to generate a ttf file worth a damn but hey, at least this is prgress < 1468100858 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such as: ligatures, kerning, mapping multiple codepoints to one glyph, multiple glyphs to one codepoint, character spacing, hanging punctuation, word spacing, text direction, variation selectors, controls to override text direction and other things, boundary characters, metadata, etc) < 1468101091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468101196 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468101232 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, btw, the TAS segment is ongoing now < 1468101303 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I noticed. < 1468101328 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, okay, just thought since you said you forgot about SGDQ previously < 1468101362 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: was it everything you hoped it would be < 1468101375 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the block hasn't finished much yet < 1468101387 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and I also forgot about the TASBot block during the last few hours -- fortunately someone said something. < 1468101389 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SML2 was a bit more elaborate than I expected, that was fun to see < 1468101402 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VVVVVV was pretty much what I expected and I was commentating it on the official IRC channel (#sdamarathon on Quakenet) < 1468101414 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I like the "console verification" on PC < 1468101424 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really fun stuff should be later in the block though :-) < 1468101430 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1468101451 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And seeing VVVVVV was really cool. I tried playing that some years ago. It is quite difficult even non-speedrunning < 1468101455 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never finished the game < 1468101457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres only one more run on the schddule < 1468101462 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've completed it it 100%, although not in no deaths mode < 1468101468 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got through the first level in no deaths mode though before now < 1468101485 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ive been told the difficulty is way overhyped < 1468101486 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, ? I know there was some donation incentives related to TAS met < 1468101492 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've finished VVVVVV in the "so many deaths" mode. < 1468101503 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one where you keep dying over and over again. < 1468101507 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they didnt put them on the schedule < 1468101513 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, depends on how good your timing skills are I guess < 1468101513 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did this involve the use of Hourglass? < 1468101522 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I have terrible timing skills. < 1468101536 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes < 1468101537 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm just the worst in Gravitron. < 1468101542 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, TASbot, at least < 1468101543 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly play turn based games thus. I'm reasonable at those generally < 1468101547 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I suck at Gravitron too :-( < 1468101556 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think two of the runs weve already seen were incentives i think < 1468101570 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the glitched-any% runs were incentives < 1468101578 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they make good incentives because they're so short they don't disturb the schedule much < 1468101602 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya. tends to be how incentives work < 1468101606 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cropping the screen took longer than the run. < 1468101628 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that reminds me of my NetHack fastest death run, it had already game-overed before the intro subtitles had finished < 1468101631 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, pretty sure there was some incentive that was longer earlier though < 1468101637 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. they had it cropped by the time the credits came < 1468101644 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of "this is a tool-assisted speedrun" the official encode was written in the past tense < 1468101668 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty grand. < 1468101685 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is the speed run record for nethack? (either TAS or real) < 1468101689 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :any% < 1468101702 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt know there was a fastest death category... < 1468101714 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there isn't, it got rejected; it was an april 1 joke < 1468101715 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ais523 invented it. < 1468101725 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres ROBberry pi! < 1468101750 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in terms of clock time, 1:03; in terms of turncount, 2130 with bones stuffing, 2251 no bones < 1468101770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the lights in the nes controllers < 1468101777 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's new this year < 1468101781 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, bone stuffing is preparing an advantageous bone file? < 1468101782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the NES visualisation boards, that is < 1468101783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel "windows total control" < 1468101784 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1468101799 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intentionally gathering all the resources you need, suiciding the character, and hoping to find the bones with the next one < 1468101824 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm, is the gathering of resources included in the run as well then? < 1468101829 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1468101833 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1468101836 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's a separate category, it's more of a newgame+ < 1468101860 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, 1:03, that would be doable as a segment in a future *GDQ < 1468101866 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case, why not just write the bones file manually < 1468101878 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it relied on a lot of luck < 1468101891 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top players don't require luck to win sort-of quickly, but the fastest runs require a ton of luck just ot go fast < 1468101894 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to go fast < 1468101900 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what is an average speed run? < 1468101902 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say 3:00 would be a good estimate for a GDQ < 1468101909 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468101911 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit too much < 1468101919 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ofc it's crazy risky < 1468101941 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you glitch nethack though? Or is it too robust? < 1468101949 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a 4:05 estimate for the Final Fantasy VI coming up. < 1468101953 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the dude who is drumming all the smb themes on his leg < 1468101963 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's had years and years of development... I wouldn't doubt it's robust... < 1468101971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, you could say that of many buggy things < 1468101996 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, a bit more well known of a game though < 1468102011 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it can be glitched < 1468102023 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a dangling pointer glitch that's possible very early < 1468102040 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds crashy rather than go-fast < 1468102044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you only want a crash, start with a Healer or Tourist, and as soon as the game starts, type d4294967296$d4294967296$ (requires a 32-bit computer) < 1468102047 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it divides by zero < 1468102062 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so a glitched any% run might be slightly faster? < 1468102066 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what next, a buffer overflow? < 1468102072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the dangling pointer glitch basically lets you edit memory arbitrarily < 1468102075 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Does a glitch count for a TAS if the TASer is also a developer of the game and intentionally put the glitch in? :P < 1468102077 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you have got to be kidding me < 1468102083 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I can do that too, but haven't found a way to exploit it into anything other than a crash yet < 1468102123 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *1 hour ago, commit by ais523: preparations* diff: if (name[0] == '@') win_game(); < 1468102129 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope the runs end at the same time < 1468102139 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I wasn't on the devteam when I was working on this stuff < 1468102148 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact, TASes are done on 3.4.3 for this reason < 1468102152 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what on earth are those "runner" names now? < 1468102153 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: If it's the set of runs I'm thinking of, they're pretty close. < 1468102159 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1468102176 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no idea :-D < 1468102183 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1468102194 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. four runs at once.... < 1468102199 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought 3 < 1468102214 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what is "lost levels"? < 1468102236 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The game releases as "Super Mario Bros 2" in Japan. < 1468102242 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*released < 1468102261 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468102378 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it doesn't *look* like the same inputs for all of them. Or they are possibly not perfectly in sync? < 1468102412 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're desynced a little I think < 1468102425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see that when one game goes to the left, the others all have to do that too to compensate < 1468102447 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think it is the lost levels one that is desynced < 1468102459 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense, it's on a famicom < 1468102464 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may have a different framerate < 1468102475 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aah. Right < 1468102475 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1468102525 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah other ones are desynced too < 1468102625 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also the routing for this must have been a nightmare. And require a very special kind of mind. < 1468102724 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"routing"? also, how exactly are they trying to "sync" multiple games...? < 1468102730 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: same inputs for every game < 1468102738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, what? < 1468102743 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "routing" = working out which levels you'll play and which routes you'll use through them < 1468102744 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, yes < 1468102755 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Famicom *ought* to have the same framerate, at least nominally... < 1468102767 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just... what? < 1468102781 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said the lost levels took longer to load than the rest. < 1468102787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it's not as hard as it seems if you ever try it on a couple of games yourself < 1468102800 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(While explaining the desync thing a moment ago.) < 1468102808 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, although this time with routing I would also include figuring out when to press left so it doesn't mess up the other games. Or I don't know a better way to describe it anyway < 1468102817 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh *right*, SMB2 was a Famicom Disk System game. < 1468102837 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't advertise that < 1468102842 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they weren't sure they'd be able to find a working Famicom < 1468102844 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but SGDQ delivered < 1468102852 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1468102861 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, it's not that hard to obtain one. < 1468102864 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, EU had Famicom rather than NES too right? < 1468102865 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for the race < 1468102866 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A working FDS is hard though. < 1468102874 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no idea, I wasn't paying attention to games back then < 1468102879 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468102882 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, EU had two NES releases. < 1468102887 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh? < 1468102887 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, they found a working Famicom, did something rather butcher-y to it to make it accept the same inputs as a bunch of NESes at the same time... < 1468102888 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by disk...means floppy? < 1468102890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then what? < 1468102896 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes. < 1468102915 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's not that hard -- the Famicom is electrically nearly identical to an NES. < 1468102933 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the poor thing... < 1468102947 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, What about the controller connector? Does it differ? < 1468102951 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really butchery, they just plugged the controller in through the controller port < 1468102952 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm they used an emulator for sml2...how did they do that legally? < 1468102968 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, the gameboy one? They explained that < 1468102969 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does differ for the original Famicom, but not for the AV Famicom. < 1468102977 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sadly they did not manage to get the hardware working < 1468102982 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you own the cartridge and dump it yourself, it's probably legal in the US at least, although I'm not sure though < 1468103009 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There was a "Mattel version" and "NES version" of the NES released in Europe. Games for one were not compatible with games for the other. < 1468103019 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It would be. < 1468103026 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, also all these runs were likely run on simulators first. < 1468103049 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how stupid. What was the difference? < 1468103051 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Backup copies of software are *explicitly* named as a legal process in US copyright law. < 1468103070 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nintendo only cares about videos of emulated games... < 1468103071 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Lockout chips and distributer. < 1468103072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I forgot it'd count as a backup < 1468103128 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1468103132 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What just happened < 1468103188 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In most of Europe Nintendo was the distributor, in the UK, Italy and Australia Mattel was *initially*, but they basically fucked around and didn't bother doing much with it so Nintendo took over as a distributer. < 1468103211 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "NES Version" was distributed by Nintendo. < 1468103211 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1468103215 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for the race < 1468103257 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, well "race" < 1468103284 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay this is definitely illegal < 1468103302 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cue the takedown notices < 1468103324 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, what? < 1468103373 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone start recording! < 1468103645 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooo kill the animals < 1468103673 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, really? That was it for TAS? How boring < 1468103693 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you don't think instantly completing SMB3 is interesting? < 1468103708 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sure, but I think "pokemon plays twitch" was cooler < 1468103712 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crazy stuff with editing new games into existing games is reserved for the winter marathons < 1468103715 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As was mario maker in whatever other mario it was < 1468103723 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it takes so much work it can only be done once a year < 1468103725 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468103733 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not as interesting as the brain age tas or the pokemon plays twitch tas but its pretty cool < 1468103735 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is in January right? < 1468103741 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: right < 1468103759 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, oh yeah that brain age one too < 1468103787 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone leaves... < 1468103820 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no love for ff6. (i never finished it myself) < 1468103822 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1468103834 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I think it is pretty good. But it is not TAS :P < 1468103837 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also is it a race? < 1468103861 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer single runs to races < 1468103907 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :any% glitch run i think < 1468103919 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good, as long as it isn't a race < 1468103932 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. its 4h tho. < 1468103946 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'll go to sleep before the end of it < 1468103957 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill probs skip it, come back for the metroid race < 1468104179 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I would love seeing the TASbot going for more modern games. Why not hook up to a N64 controller or such < 1468104215 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or gamecube < 1468104221 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newer than that might be harder < 1468104240 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's done Mario Kart 64 in the past < 1468104248 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to try finding that on youtube < 1468104268 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sounds interesting < 1468104626 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must be kidding me... xine_setenv("DVDCSS_RAW_DEVICE", "", 1); ... no wonder it's trying to open an empty file. < 1468105032 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468105098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess it is the semantics of that setenv that were changed at some point. < 1468106378 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's libdvdcss that changed. < 1468108348 0 :NotJx7p!?@? 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