< 1467331818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467331836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details//who knows < 1467331842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467331844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikachu//Pikachu is a universal quantifier for Chu spaces. < 1467331853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467331854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467331854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467331862 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot//EgoBot is my arch-nemesis. < 1467331863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm//dnm does not mind. < 1467331863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngram model//An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state < 1467331959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ngram model//s/$/./ < 1467331964 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ngram model//An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state. < 1467332197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it convenient how sled prints out the new contents? < 1467332225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467332227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone sex//Drone sex has never been observed in the wild; in fact it's rare to see drones in their natural habitat because they are extremely shy. Experiments with drones in captivity have only resulted in broken drones, and a rotor stuck in the ceiling. We are still looking for a biological explanation for the ever increasing drone population. < 1467332245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -P '[^\.]$' wisdom < 1467332256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/6 random numbers:4 8 15 16 23 42 \ wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯:¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ \ wisdom/soup:What soup, Doc? \ wisdom/haskell:Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' \ wisdom/french:Le français n'est pas le démon, visitez les Coupeurs. Ne pas couvrir. Meilleur avant! \ wisd < 1467332285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 rgrep -P '[^\.?!\d]$' wisdom < 1467332288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/78:wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯:¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ \ wisdom/haskell:Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' \ wisdom/elendil:Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his min < 1467332304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467332305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/78:d, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. \ wisdom/scotland: it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes \ wisdom/#programmin < 1467332335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam maybe just a few more < 1467332336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/78:g:No such channel. See `? #esoteric \ wisdom/mroman_:mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW) \ wisdom/hydrogen:Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal. \ wisdom/guestbot:guestbot is n < 1467332380 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/spam < 1467332382 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; len="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo -n "$line/$len:"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line+1))" > /hackenv/tmp/spline < 1467332521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd hydrogen//s#\s+## < 1467332523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal. < 1467332644 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467332662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1467332768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd elendil//s#\s+## < 1467332770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. < 1467332796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467332797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil:Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. \ wisdom/hydrogen:Hydrogen is what sta < 1467332823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1467332833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/cwlprits//culprits "wisdom/$1" < 1467332837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/cwlprits < 1467332843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits elendil < 1467332853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really have to ask < 1467332853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas < 1467332886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1467332909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd elendil//s#\s+$## < 1467332911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. < 1467332919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd hydrogen//s#\s+$## < 1467332920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal. < 1467332944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467332947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil:Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. \ wisdom/hydrogen:Hydrogen is what sta < 1467332954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF IS HAPPENING < 1467332967 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there's something wrong about the regexp < 1467332976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I bet it's because it's sed. < 1467332989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd hydrogen//s#\s\+$## < 1467332991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal. < 1467332999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd elendil//s#\s\+$## < 1467333003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1467333004 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333004 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. < 1467333005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I remember. < 1467333006 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/math:Math class is tough! \ wisdom/utumno:Utumno is Morgoth's first dungeon. It is where he was defeated, and the Silmarils temporarily reclaimed from him. \ wisdom/wealhtheow:Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story. \ wisdom/fat:Fats are one of the four basic classes < 1467333016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also fix the double space in elendil twh < 1467333031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits math < 1467333036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1467333048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd elendil//s#\s\+# # < 1467333049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. < 1467333053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1467333082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd elendil//s# \+# # < 1467333084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. < 1467333087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1467333094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 is 1 or more hth < 1467333103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd elendil//s# \+# #g < 1467333105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. < 1467333110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1467333112 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i see < 1467333131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a version of sled which uses perl instlead < 1467333172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas it looks like you tend to put trailing spaces in your wisdoms tdnh < 1467333172 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467333210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dogs now howl < 1467333222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333225 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/math:Math class is tough! \ wisdom/utumno:Utumno is Morgoth's first dungeon. It is where he was defeated, and the Silmarils temporarily reclaimed from him. \ wisdom/wealhtheow:Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story. \ wisdom/fat:Fats are one of the four basic classes < 1467333242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits utumno < 1467333248 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1467333252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1467333266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -Pl '\s+$' wisdom | wc -l < 1467333269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 < 1467333277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{math,utumno,wealtheow} < 1467333280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/wealtheow: No such file or directory < 1467333292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits wealhtheow < 1467333296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas b_jonas < 1467333298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{math,utumno,wealhtheow} < 1467333301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 rgrep -Pl '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wealhtheow < 1467333312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:wisdom/fat \ wisdom/ghoul \ wisdom/delve \ wisdom/if \ wisdom/o \ wisdom/rhenium \ wisdom/semmelweis \ wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1467333313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story. < 1467333322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/7:wisdom/fat:Fats are one of the four basic classes of nutrients. The other three are sugars, salt, and pizza. \ wisdom/ghoul:Ghouls are undead that eat BRAINS. So basically, bog standard undead like zombies or wights, but with some fancy back story in the book that nobody reads. \ wisdom/delve:Delve is a static ability that fu < 1467333329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :7?! < 1467333349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of me, two of me, three of me, four of me, five, six, seven -- sorry, no more of me < 1467333350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{fat,ghoul} < 1467333354 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467333358 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/7:nctions while the spell with delve is on the stack. "Delve" means "For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana." The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve is determined. \ wi < 1467333374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{delve} < 1467333375 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/{delve}: No such file or directory < 1467333383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/delve < 1467333383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits delve < 1467333394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan tswett tswett tswett < 1467333396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467333414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/7:sdom/if:If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss: \ wisdom/o:o is a popular comedy adventure fantasy webcomic. It's about a group of adventurers, heroes or warriors (whatever you want to ca < 1467333415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -Pl '\s+$' wisdom | while read f; do echo -n "$f:"; culprits "$f"; done < 1467333421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467333429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/7:ll them) called the Order of the Stick, as they go about their adventures with minimal competence or knowledge of what they are doing, and eventually sort of stumble into a plan by an undead sorcerer to conquer the world, essentially, and they're out to stop him and conquer their personal problems at the same time. Hopefully not < 1467333437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/if:b_jonas \ wisdom/o:b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas oerjan_nope oerjan_nope \ wisdom/rhenium:b_jonas \ wisdom/semmelweis:shachaf \ wisdom/ᛁᚿ:b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas < 1467333445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467333447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/7: in that order, so they get their personal problems taken care of before the final battle. And it's a comedy. \ wisdom/rhenium:Rhenium is a precious metal. It can be found nowhere in Earth because the Enemy has used up all of it for forging the One Ring. \ wisdom/semmelweis:Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birth < 1467333456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? semmelweis < 1467333458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birthgiving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it. < 1467333474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag wisdom/semmelweis < 1467333478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-13 ` mv wisdom/semmelwei{,s} < 1467333485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1467333490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/semmelwei < 1467333494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf b_jonas < 1467333496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did seem a bit uncharacteristic. < 1467333511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{if,o,rhenium,semmelweis} < 1467333513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467333513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333514 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6/7:giving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it. \ wisdom/ᛁᚿ:ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦ < 1467333528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER < 1467333529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467333530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7/7:ᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1467333534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has come out of retirement < 1467333554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by the way, that's why distort used to keep the ' \ ' at the end of the final line < 1467333560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to spot lines that end with spaces < 1467333564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1467333570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now you're ruined it the dogs now howl < 1467333573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've < 1467333592 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467333622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:wisdom/ᛁᚿ:ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅá < 1467333631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1467333632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:š¿á›á›¦áš¢á›˜ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1467333641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do YOU see a // anywhere < 1467333648 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467333674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 rgrep -l '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0: < 1467333678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1467333689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that wrong < 1467333711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which rgrep < 1467333712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/rgrep < 1467333724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r -l '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ᛁᚿ:ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆ < 1467333766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it. < 1467333768 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467333782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait duh < 1467333791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1467333809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333811 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1467333820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᛆ < 1467333821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+16C6 RUNIC LETTER SHORT-TWIG-AR A] < 1467333845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1467333849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l -P '\s+$' wisdom < 1467333854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467333859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1467333869 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1467333912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION settles back in the lawnchair
< 1467333925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawnchairs are for retirees < 1467333929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1467333933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't qualify anymore < 1467333956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've told you, norwegian retirees are officially encouraged to keep working hth < 1467335814 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467336470 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@162.72.184.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467337034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467337060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn retiree < 1467337061 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "retiree" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1467337061 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :retiree < 1467337061 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: someone who has retired from active working [syn: < 1467337061 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {retiree}, {retired person}] < 1467337066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bookwatching//bookwatching is when you conflagrate birdwatching and the books used to identify them in the same object. < 1467337070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn retire < 1467337071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "retire" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1467337071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :retire < 1467337071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: go into retirement; stop performing one's work or withdraw < 1467337071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from one's position; "He retired at age 68" < 1467337071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: withdraw from active participation; "He retired from chess" < 1467337073 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[26 @more lines] < 1467338401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't expect your logic to work against the norwegian Arbeidslinja tdnh < 1467338526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the googletranslation of https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeidslinja says "welfare benefits" < 1467338536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's a word translation thing < 1467338571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not one of google translation's most reliable ones. < 1467338656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what it's called in other languages, it's a norwegian political term and may not be succinctly translateable. < 1467338753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but briefly, it's about how to structure the welfare system such that it protects those who cannot work, but it's still better to work if you're able to. < 1467338799 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we have that problem in the UK too < 1467338858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the swedish term "arbetslinjen" is probably similar. it has a brief english wikipedia article. < 1467338869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think the word "retire" is independent of welfare, though < 1467338870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(most likely norwegians borrowed it) < 1467338924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i see you keep stubbornly clinging to logic. < 1467338945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you might perhaps substitute "pensioners") < 1467338953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well, sure < 1467339084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish wikipedia suggests "workfare" < 1467340613 0 :spockers!autocorrec@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467340617 0 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467340617 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467340617 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467340617 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467343015 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467343071 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467343335 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467343626 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467343743 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467343937 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467344568 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467347802 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467348431 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467349229 0 :Deewiant_!?@? NICK :Deewiant < 1467349540 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467350167 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467350738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1467351317 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467351355 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467354414 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:788d:7f49:a58f:1321 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467354709 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1467355250 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467356068 0 :bender_!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:ed50:c0b1:5e34:542e JOIN :#esoteric < 1467358242 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1467358511 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@162.72.184.125 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467358540 0 :bender_!?@? NICK :super_bender < 1467359987 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467360043 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467360544 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467360598 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nnnnnngh. You know what I don't like? < 1467360614 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Builder classes where every method ends with "return this", and so you do stuff like... < 1467360635 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Color myColor = new ColorBuilder().setRed(10).setGreen(20).setBlue(30).build(); < 1467360676 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1467360695 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as there is also a setRGB i am perfectly fine with it < 1467360821 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, suppose I do this: < 1467360832 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ColorBuilder myNewColorBuilder = myOldColorBuilder.setRed(10); < 1467360868 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The signature for "setRed" makes it look like you can do that, and end up with two different ColorBuilders, one where the red has been set to 10 and one where it hasn't. < 1467360969 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as a matter of fact, setRed just mutates the existing object and returns it again. < 1467361085 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what this all comes down to is that you're doing something semantically weird for the sake of convenient syntax. < 1467361387 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't do oop < 1467361597 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is good* advice and I will* take it, because I hate* OOP and using OOP is completely unnecessary* and unhelpful* for both my job and my hobbies. < 1467361882 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what else I don't like? C-style for-loop syntax. < 1467361888 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bad idea. < 1467361919 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the BASIC style of for-loops better? < 1467362077 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs for if he has map! :p < 1467362089 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not familiar with BASIC for-loop syntax. < 1467362101 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But compare these two syntaxes... < 1467362137 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 timesRepeat: [ do something here ] < 1467362154 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(int i = 0; i < 20; i++) { do something here } < 1467362165 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one is easier to read? < 1467362167 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR X = 10 TO 60 STEP 2 is an example of a BASIC for-loop syntax < 1467362171 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: it's the first one. < 1467362182 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's definitely better. < 1467362242 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, I think it'd be something like... < 1467362248 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR I = 1 TO 20 < 1467362252 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1467362351 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:788d:7f49:a58f:1321 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467362503 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467362574 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that could work < 1467362588 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, shchaf: YOU REMOVED MY PROPER SPACING between sentences! WHY? < 1467362670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: wisdom entries are one space hth < 1467362708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically, i used to do two spaces until people complained too much < 1467362728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA STOCKHOLM SYNDROME < 1467362858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you, i still do in other places) < 1467362860 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why'd you even remove the space from the end? < 1467362866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, come on < 1467362878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces at the end are scow < 1467362885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even oerjan can agree about that < 1467362896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: actually that was the main thing and the double spaces were just an afterthought. < 1467362925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Better than what? < 1467362962 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter which one was first. < 1467362973 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :next you'll be editing my British spellings to American or something? < 1467362989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: for one thing, learn_append only works properly with that format. < 1467363013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will add one space, and expects the old one to end in punctuation. < 1467363041 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no! learn_append adds one space, so it works properly if there's two space between sentences and one at the end after the last sentence < 1467363048 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will add another space so there's two between the sentences. < 1467363051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish. < 1467363077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it breaks if i don't add a new space. < 1467363079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you gotta admit that was a good one hth < 1467363098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so good i sort of thought of it myself. < 1467363109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn_append < 1467363120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat le/rn_append < 1467363147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whackego < 1467363156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ [[ "$1" = */* ]] || exit \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | cut -d / -f 1) \ [ -z "$topic" ] && exit 1 \ stuff=$(echo "$1" | cut -d / -f 2-) \ perl -i -p -e 's/\n/ /' "wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$stuff" >>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic" < 1467363156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic="$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//')" \ stuff=$(echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-) \ perl -i -p -e 's/\n/ /' "wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$stuff" >>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic" < 1467363213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe `le/rn_append shouldn't add the space. < 1467363225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: AAAAAAAAA < 1467363248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls le < 1467363252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn \ rn_append < 1467363365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hm that _would_ be convenient in some cases. but also easy to get wrong. < 1467363403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ø/rjan s# # # < 1467363428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it was an expert mode? You can specify it by using a triple slash in the command's name. < 1467363524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 8868 < 1467363524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: unknown revision '8868'! < 1467363534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 8668 < 1467363566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1467363568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1467363645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :triple slash might work < 1467363665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, you know, it could just be a different command name.) < 1467363676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with the revert? < 1467363719 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: NO! the extra slash is part of the text to append < 1467363734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Obviously I mean in the command name. < 1467363738 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you want a special mode, make it a slash at the beginning of the filename, or a 256 long path component < 1467363738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :le///rn_append < 1467363744 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1467363746 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the command name < 1467363749 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1467363754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like le/rn has two modes, le/rn and le//rn < 1467363768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter lets you le/rn wisdoms containing slashes. < 1467363774 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1467363807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why oerjan reverted to 8668. < 1467363814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are rules and regulations about wisdoms. < 1467363818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very orderly. < 1467363835 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rules < 1467363836 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? order < 1467363847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're rather unwritten... < 1467363853 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? laws < 1467363859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you doing that? < 1467363863 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know there won't be any results. < 1467363869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467363869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :order? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467363874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laws? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467364087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*fmt* < 1467364092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*fmt*: No such file or directory < 1467364113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*format* < 1467364114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/natural transformation \ wisdom/quoteformat < 1467364120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the quotes < 1467364125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1467365530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467365881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading a book... a long time ago < 1467365884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I want to read it again < 1467365890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't remember anything about it, really < 1467365896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I have tiny details < 1467365908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough that someone else who knows about it could name it < 1467365917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not enough to recover it on my own < 1467365954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I remember a somewhat distinctive name from a chapter < 1467365958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Crucible of Fire" < 1467365964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a book about some weird alternate world < 1467365981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's hinted that it was created by humans as an experiment of sorts; modern technology is seen rarely as magic < 1467366072 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is it a fiction book? is it a fantasy or sci-fi book? if so, http://scifi.stackexchange.com/ is usually great for identification questions < 1467366084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Definitely fiction < 1467366098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It was... sort of sci fi and fantasy, depending on how you looked at it < 1467366103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It leaned towards fantasy though < 1467366107 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have found it on a reddit < 1467366131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if it's sci-fi or fantasy, then scifi.stackexchange.com works well. you don't have to know which of the two it is. < 1467366151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: OK, thank you < 1467366152 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities may work, it's worked for me at least once < 1467366193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: make sure you read instructions at http://scifi.stackexchange.com/tags/story-identification/info or http://meta.scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/9335/how-to-ask-a-good-story-id-question < 1467366357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found it! < 1467366410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Relic Master, it appears it is < 1467366412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1467366456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, Relic Master series by Catherine Fisher < 1467366471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION raises his hand for a high five to anyone who so desires
< 1467366514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to find somewhere I can get it from... < 1467366535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I should probably check my bookshelf first, but I have a feeling I read it on a kindle) < 1467366629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh! While looking for it I found the Leven Thumps series < 1467366702 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look in your kindle or your hard disk too then < 1467368194 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467369038 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467370744 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467372226 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467373285 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1467373310 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1467376403 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@81.30.38.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467376866 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:80e8:6da2:9942:2f47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467377129 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:80e8:6da2:9942:2f47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467379934 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1467380691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467380725 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467380737 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 6*7 < 1467380739 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42 < 1467380756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523//Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. < 1467380784 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467380794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycology//mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1467381344 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467382443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467383264 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:ed50:c0b1:5e34:542e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467384118 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467384347 0 :bender_!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b56b:e905:8659:624c JOIN :#esoteric < 1467384399 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467384511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467386579 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b56b:e905:8659:624c JOIN :#esoteric < 1467386606 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@81.30.38.129 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467386722 0 :bender_!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b56b:e905:8659:624c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467388407 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467390818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467391372 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4dbe:407:7cc9:fffa JOIN :#esoteric < 1467391633 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467391636 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4dbe:407:7cc9:fffa QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467391643 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467392564 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1467393182 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 〚〚 < 1467393205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+301A LEFT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET] [U+301A LEFT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET] < 1467395115 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467396832 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwut < 1467396992 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbrvnkdtpiqnyvbc JOIN :#esoteric < 1467397326 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467397460 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467399111 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467399470 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467400462 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467401463 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467402300 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1467402318 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467402333 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467402363 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467402873 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467404173 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467404447 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467404579 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467405704 0 :devhydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1467405704 0 :devhydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1467405704 0 :devhydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1467405706 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467405712 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467405712 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aykrwsirbnzqncgw QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467405714 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467405747 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467405748 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467405761 0 :devhydraz!?@? NICK :hydra < 1467405762 0 :hydra!?@? NICK :hydraz < 1467405774 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467405818 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1467405836 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhufkakasbolfxco JOIN :#esoteric < 1467405867 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467406083 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467406899 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vim programs F1 as help and other functions keys do nothing, which isn't very useful. I would want to reprogram it so that perhaps F1 is a different function, and so that F4 will suppress the alternate buffer until a key is pushed, so that shell output can be seen (similar to the function of F4 in QBASIC). < 1467407900 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467408129 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467408368 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is good so far? http://sprunge.us/MRce (Note some of the functions listed are not yet fully implemented, but are either partially implemented or are called by functions that are implemented) < 1467410341 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467410572 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b56b:e905:8659:624c QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467410714 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:10f7:72ab:2295:355d JOIN :#esoteric < 1467411014 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467411075 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.130 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1467411083 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:10f7:72ab:2295:355d QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467411115 0 :Herbstkind!~S1FeHa@2a02:810a:8380:f193:1588:e934:d36d:c1b2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467411767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467411917 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467412435 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@pin22-2-78-207-27-9.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467412445 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467412506 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467412628 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467412661 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1467412833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467413419 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467413419 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1467413419 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1467413531 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :K-Lined < 1467413591 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1467414056 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1467414554 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the lord thus spake: "Let there be a motherfucking hexagon on motherfucking saturn, and let it confuse the humans forevermore" < 1467414833 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.246.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467414849 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.246.132 QUIT :Client Quit < 1467414872 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.246.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467415057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467415641 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should make a movie called "The Abyss" < 1467415648 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you gaze long into it, it gazes back < 1467415770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they already did < 1467415848 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? < 1467415864 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, maybe I should change my surname to "The Abyss" and become a doctor < 1467415869 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Abyss will gaze into you now" < 1467415992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? abyss < 1467416020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abyss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467416067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn abyss/In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same. < 1467416073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «abyss» < 1467416268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what happened to starting a wisdom entry with the key < 1467416293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that really works for soviet russia jokes hth < 1467416302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what happens when the abyss stares into you and then you don't stare back < 1467416308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i < 1467416310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google what's expected of us < 1467416312 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nature.com/articles/436150a < 1467416312 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: What's expected of us : Article : Nature < 1467416411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then you get sent to siberia for gazing lessons hth < 1467416483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm of course the original is in german, so cannot expect a definite english version < 1467416593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german version is probably backwards < 1467416616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that story i linked to is good < 1467416622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen it before < 1467416732 0 :Herbstkind!~S1FeHa@2a02:810a:8380:f193:1588:e934:d36d:c1b2 PART #esoteric : < 1467417102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: hopumpkin < 1467417799 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467417814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1467417838 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467417864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i always imagine you yodeling that hth < 1467417869 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467417951 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallørjen. < 1467417966 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaftiddlywhoo < 1467418004 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467418034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[2]. < 1467418070 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1467418095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, poor underline < 1467418414 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1467418422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vim programs F1 as help and other functions keys do nothing [...] <-- F1 opens help in gvim on windows, at least < 1467418441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the only one i checked) < 1467418463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, works in my linux terminal too < 1467418478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1467418484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, misparsed your sentence < 1467418535 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1467418759 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CLOCKWISE CHICKEN < 1467419091 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467419259 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467420635 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does socketpair need to be a syscall? < 1467421041 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1467421057 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467421114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467421243 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467422387 0 :Etaoin!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467422405 0 :Etaoin!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellaoin < 1467422731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467424513 0 :Etaoin!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 QUIT :Quit: BOOSH < 1467424817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467424824 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467425037 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:105c:5596:f930:2826 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467425133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467425348 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:105c:5596:f930:2826 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467425738 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently switched to using ctrl-ins, shift-ins for copy and paste. this has the advantage of working on windows, linux and mac the same way < 1467425781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an Ins key. < 1467425813 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O; wha? < 1467425833 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what computer doesn't have insert? < 1467425929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My work computer, a MacBook Pro. < 1467425962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow it still has a caps lock key, though. < 1467425982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple got rid of the floppy drive and of the optical drive. But they didn't get rid of caps lock. Absurd. < 1467426043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467426049 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I use a macbook at work, but I have an external keyboard < 1467426100 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the macbook's keyboard is also missing a numpad, which i consider essential < 1467426114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider it inessential. < 1467426126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned hjklyubn so now I can play NetHack without a number pad. < 1467426152 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the numpad to type numbers quickly < 1467426163 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the numrow to type numbers quickly. < 1467426224 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have given up having a numpad as well < 1467426238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never wanted it in the first place. < 1467426254 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only are numpadless keyboards more compact, they are less expensive! < 1467426256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typing numbers is for the birds. < 1467426278 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have yet to adopt a bird to type numbers for me, I regret to admit < 1467426297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Bird is Cruel! < 1467426303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or so `hoag informs me.) < 1467426328 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have purchased keyboards with numpads before, but it was only coincidence--it was never a factor in my decision) < 1467426427 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only thing I don't like about this keyboard (on my Thinkpad) is the lack of a print screen key < 1467426512 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm OK with a pixel screen. Printers are outdated. < 1467426519 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :print screen is essential for pics or it didn't happen < 1467426599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my work computer, a MacBook Pro, I can press Cmd-Shift-3 to make a picture of the screen, or Cmd-Shift-4 to make a picture of a window or rectangle. < 1467426622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very convenient. < 1467426632 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my laptop has all the same keys that a full keyboard has, except for two. < 1467426641 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus it has one key that a full keyboard doesn't have. < 1467426644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my personal computer, I have a Print Screen key. But I usually run a command line program. < 1467426653 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those keys are insert and scroll lock. < 1467426696 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "fn" is the extra one. < 1467426743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has all those, and a numpad
< 1467426767 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you have a laptop that does have insert and scroll lock keys? < 1467426796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's a marking for scr lk on the num lk key < 1467426811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's insert on the numpad < 1467426822 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no, it doesn't have a scroll lock key. < 1467426844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my previous laptop didn't have a separate numpad, although it had a setting to put a numpad in the middle of the ordinary keys < 1467426850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1467426863 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tswett sure showed you < 1467426872 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about dedicated keys. Mine has decidated keys for all but two of the standard keys. < 1467426873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the insert key is shared with 0 < 1467426892 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so far, it sounds like you have the same laptop keyboard that I have. < 1467426901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it an asus < 1467426908 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1467426918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1467426948 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the media buttons on your F keys go sleep, airplane, keyboard dim, keyboard bright, screen dim, screen bright, screen off, projector, touchpad disable, mute, quiet, loud? < 1467427031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have keyboard lights, but otherwise yes < 1467427041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think) < 1467427084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about airplane, it's some kind of radiating antenna symbol < 1467427129 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the same thing. < 1467427134 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your F2 key have a little light in it? < 1467427136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fn + F3 seems to open up some email program. < 1467427165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's airplane indeed. no light though. < 1467427172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467427177 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really oughta get my media keys working. < 1467427192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :F3 and F4 have no media symbols < 1467427193 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired of only being able to change my backlight brightness by using the xbacklight command. < 1467427203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :døsthiswork//no < 1467427222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1467427231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits døsthiswork < 1467427243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 oerjan elliott olsner Bike FreeFull shachaf < 1467427248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1467427258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hog wisdom/døsthiswork < 1467427266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert \ cp wisdom/doesthiswork wisdom/d\xc3\xb8sthiswork \ revert \ for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ echo yes > wisdom/d\xc3\xb8sthiswork < 1467427297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467427299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pico//pico is the useless twin of nano. < 1467427384 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should upgrade to 16.4. < 1467427415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pico isn't cool. You know what's cool? nano. < 1467427467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when my laptop was in for repairs, i got a replacement with keyboard lights. i found it irritating, especially since it wouldn't remember that i wanted them off. < 1467427513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, when i turned the laptop on.) < 1467427541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an atto < 1467427557 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just paint over all the letters with black paint. < 1467427571 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use one of those tiny brushes. < 1467427584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAA < 1467427604 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the codename for 16.4, anyway? < 1467427618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the lights came through the borders of the keys, not the letters, iirc. < 1467427637 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just install rubber seals around all the keys. < 1467427643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may misremember whether the letters also shined < 1467427668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that laptop is long since back in the shop. < 1467427708 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be kind of difficult to use a backlit keyboard where the letters don't shine. < 1467427715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Atrocious Allosaurus ) < 1467427738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1467427738 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't this one X? < 1467427742 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what was the animal for U? < 1467427752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i'm just joking < 1467427760 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody can name an animal starting with U. < 1467427782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1467427792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undulating Utahraptor < 1467427824 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow, my Ubuntu distro has been EOL since February. < 1467427826 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wasn't I notified? < 1467427840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the notifications were also EOLed hth < 1467427854 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467427867 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :os < 1467427910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it is indeed hard to think of a modern animal starting with U. < 1467427935 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usagi < 1467427942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in english, \oren\ < 1467427957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i also thought of that one < 1467427965 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uman < 1467427995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467428005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ulv < 1467428029 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.246.132 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467428034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: you've been incremented! < 1467428038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's got to be some obscure antelope < 1467428088 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uakari < 1467428095 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, maybe they've got one on the coat of arms of some country starting with U. < 1467428107 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a kind of monkey < 1467428109 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, maybe it's an animal where the name of the animal just begins with the name of that country. < 1467428149 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ukrainian swamp tiger < 1467428166 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound like an obscure antelope. < 1467428193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid wikipedia's mammal list goes by genus in latin < 1467428224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "genus" in latin is "genus" hth < 1467428245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lightly swats shachaf -----###
< 1467428262 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, "genus" in Latin is "genus_(taxinomia)" hth. < 1467428267 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof: https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genus_%28taxinomia%29 < 1467428269 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467428278 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, it's "genus_%28taxinomia%29". < 1467428373 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467428432 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I really miss the days when Ubuntu's theme color was brown instead of purple. < 1467428502 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467428696 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, I was gonna ponder this funny little language of mine. < 1467429051 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467429093 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+01b9 < 1467429097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ƹ < 1467429129 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ƹ < 1467429134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+01B9 LATIN SMALL LETTER EZH REVERSED] < 1467429188 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the language that's tentatively named Tokiber. < 1467429201 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with the language that's tentatively named Quendle. < 1467429242 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467429285 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: they switched to purple? < 1467429327 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yeah, like nearly ten years ago. < 1467429452 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :their website is still orange < 1467429543 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm from screenshots of 16.04 I can see there's a lot more purple now, but still some orang < 1467429564 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467429598 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I have defined in Tokiber: categories; categories with a terminal object; finite product categories; finite limit categories; monoids; the forgetful functor from monoids to categories; groups; abelian groups; rings with identity; "natural number algebras". < 1467429651 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about strings? < 1467429684 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, every string is a natural number, never mind < 1467429694 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strings aren't natural numbers. < 1467429717 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could be represented by them? < 1467429734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1467429740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the string "\00" is 2. the string < 1467429751 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\0\0" is 2 < 1467429760 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :h... < 1467429789 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A natural number algebra consists of a sort N, a point "zero" in N, and a function "succ" from N to N. < 1467429797 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw it, take the bitstream, add a 1 at the end and call that a number < 1467429867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: a sort like quicksort or mergesort? < 1467429872 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, use bijective base 1112064. < 1467429881 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A sort" means "a set or whatever". < 1467429881 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a point? An arrow from a terminal object? < 1467429916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should do the CDOs in http://chu.stanford.edu/PrattSRMK2016.pdf < 1467429923 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, bijective base. that is way better. < 1467429923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have points and copoints. It's TG. < 1467429933 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An arrow from a terminal object, yes. < 1467429964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And adjunctions are just a special case of associativity. < 1467429976 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, really "a sort" means "an object in the ambient category-with-a-terminal-object". < 1467429997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object in the ambivalent category < 1467430078 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Function", of course, means "arrow". < 1467430095 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to define the squaring function on the integers. < 1467430112 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I'm still entirely ignorant of the difference between a category and a set. < 1467430157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't much similarity. < 1467430180 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A category is a directed graph equipped with a composition operator which is associative and has identities. < 1467430190 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A set isn't. < 1467430223 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but what does it mean for something to be "in the category C" < 1467430228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft. A category is a generalized monoid. < 1467430252 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean it's one of the points on the graph? < 1467430260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually want an answer for what a category is? < 1467430286 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well, that depends on what the thing is. The vertices of a category are called objects, so that tells you what an "object in the category C" is. < 1467430326 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The edges are called arrows or morphisms (the two words are exact synonyms). < 1467430390 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that makes a lot more sense than the wikipedia article < 1467430406 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "usual case" is for the objects to be algebraic structures and for the arrows to be homomorphisms between them. < 1467430415 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the "category of groups" is, for example. < 1467430458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think thinking of a category as a graph is a bit misleading if you want good intuition. < 1467430485 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I think of it as a set of sets and functions between sets? < 1467430509 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i was thinking of it < 1467430509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The important part of a category is the arrows. < 1467430511 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can certainly think of it as being *like* a set of sets and functions between sets. < 1467430514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The objects are almost irrelevant. < 1467430528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The arrows aren't functions (except in some special cases). < 1467430532 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most cases, the objects are "kind of like sets" and the arrows are "kind of like functions". < 1467430682 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in what ways can they fail to be functions? < 1467430709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the elements of a group functions? < 1467430770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's maybe a bad question because of Cayley's theorem. < 1467430837 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.246.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467430964 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was thinking more of what they do to the elements of the objects < 1467431017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: categories that are "sets and functions between sets" are an important special case, known as _concrete_ categories. < 1467431060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'd give you an example, but maybe first you should have the definition of a category. < 1467431096 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like first I need the definition of an object? < 1467431114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't one < 1467431122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object can be literally _anything_ < 1467431130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dependent on the category < 1467431156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :First you need the definition of an arrow. < 1467431166 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which can also be literally anything. < 1467431177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well, do you know what a monoid is? < 1467431191 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something from Haskell? < 1467431207 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait that's "monad" < 1467431225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what a group is? < 1467431231 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467431243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monoid is like a group, except elements don't necessarily have inverses. < 1467431274 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1467431279 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have multiplication, and you have an identity element 1, such that a(bc) = (ab)c, a1 = a, 1a = a < 1467431313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good? < 1467431324 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. with you so far. < 1467431348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good example of a monoid is strings over some alphabet. Multiplication is concatenation, and 1 is the empty string. < 1467431393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another example of a monoid is NxN matrices, with the identity matrix and matrix multiplication. < 1467431435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what you'd want to do is talk about the monoid of all matrices, not just NxN matrices. < 1467431448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiplication is still associative, and you still have identity matrices. Right? < 1467431460 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1467431473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble is that you can't multiply two arbitrary matrices. The sizes have to match. < 1467431496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, you can multiply and IxJ matrix with a JxK matrix, to get an IxK matrix. < 1467431521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you don't just have one identity, you have one for each size. So you have a 5x5 identity matrix and so on. < 1467431530 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1467431565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The laws are still the same. a(bc) = (ab)c, id_N . a = a, a . id_M = a < 1467431571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a is an NxM matrix. < 1467431598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where . is multiplication.) < 1467431639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you generalize that, that's what a category is. < 1467431663 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the matrices are the arrows? < 1467431666 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1467431668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A category has a bunch of things, called arrows, that you can multiply together. < 1467431677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't multiply any two things together. < 1467431699 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if one points to the vertex where another begins. < 1467431714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have a bunch of things, called objects. Each arrow has a "domain" object and a "codomain" object (these correspond to the dimensions of the matrix). < 1467431748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You generally write f : A -> B to mean that f is an arrow with domain A and codomain B. < 1467431834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an operation ., called composition or multiplication, where f . g is defined the codomain of g is equal to the domain of f. < 1467431862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :. is associative < 1467431894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for every object A, you have a special arrow 1_A : A -> A, such that for any f : A -> B, f . 1_A = f, and for any g : C -> A, 1_A . g = g < 1467432021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that make sense? < 1467432026 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467432050 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. It's pretty simple. < 1467432066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can talk about other categories. A popular one is one where the arrows are functions. < 1467432095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The objects are sets. You can see that it all works out. < 1467432378 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that helps a lot, to have an example other than the category(s) of functions and sets < 1467432407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are lots of other examples. < 1467432479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can pretty easily see that a monoid is a category with one object. Yes? < 1467432489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or can be represented that way, at least.) < 1467432499 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467432525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't matter what the object is. For example, it could be a cup of tea. < 1467432572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can represent a set as a category, where each object represents an element, and there are only identity arrows. < 1467432577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's called a "discrete category".) < 1467432679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also represent a preorder as a category. You do that by saying that, for any pair of objects (A,B), there's at most one arrow : A -> B, iff A <= B. < 1467432723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Identity arrows correspond to reflexivity, and arrow composition corresponds to transitivity. < 1467432746 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, the composition of arrows would only lead to true <= statements... < 1467432759 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1467432770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are kind of boring categories because they're extreme. < 1467432820 0 :Etaoin!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467432823 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should be on the wiki page so that people can figure out that a category isn't just what i thought it was. < 1467432838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very popular sort of category is one where the arrows are homomorphisms of some structure. < 1467432851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, group homomorphisms, or continuous functions, or linear maps. < 1467432875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The objects would be groups, or topological spaces, or vector spaces, respectively. < 1467432897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The category of finite-dimensional vector spaces and linear maps is very similar to the one with matrices that we started with.) < 1467432936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good? < 1467432958 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah all of those sound like they should work < 1467432986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People almost always define homomorphisms such that they're associative and have identities. < 1467432993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next question is why would you care about categories? < 1467433024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in a way this whole conversation is backwards, because that question is the right place to start. < 1467433144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the right approach is to start with naturality, like what's-his-name did. < 1467434738 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467435355 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What're some of the best spacey simulations? < 1467435383 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The intradisciplinary hub of solidarity matrices, esoteric programming language design, multichannel bot abuse (always safe, sane and consensual), and font forging (dangerous and potentially illegal) | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1467435637 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: KSP is my favorite, but there's also space engine < 1467435652 0 :Etaoin!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1467435653 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I mean videos xD < 1467435668 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Simulations of weird things happening in space < 1467436083 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467436410 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1467436591 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467436608 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467436879 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467436986 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467437632 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467438628 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh, right. I wanted to define the squaring function on the integers. < 1467438652 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which probably means I should define the integers. < 1467438759 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, I don't have a way to do that. < 1467439299 0 :spockers_!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467439329 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I have a way to define finite algebras. < 1467439402 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Killed (wilhelm.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)) < 1467439402 0 :spockers_!?@? NICK :spockers < 1467439414 0 :shikhin_!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1467439489 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhufkakasbolfxco QUIT :*.net *.split < 1467439489 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1467439489 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1467439489 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1467439489 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlqxehvlydhpfjhw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1467439489 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1467439530 0 :shikhin_!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1467439798 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've defined sets, and I've defined rings with identity. < 1467439808 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's what the definition of a set currently looks like: < 1467439815 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory Set : CATEGORY { sort Element; } < 1467439838 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paraphrased in English: < 1467439841 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A set consists of a set." < 1467439898 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define the empty set, too. It looks something like this: < 1467439913 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algebra EmptySet : Set { Element := 0; } < 1467439960 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The definition of a ring with identity starts out like this: < 1467439975 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory RingWithIdent extends Set : FPRODCAT { < 1467440030 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "extends" keyword automatically defines a forgetful functor RingWithIdent -> Set. < 1467440205 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So theoretically, you ought to just be able to grab the left adjoint to that functor, giving you the free functor Set -> RingWithIdent. < 1467440226 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then apply that to EmptySet, and boom, you get the free ring-with-identity on the empty set—in other words, the integers. < 1467440277 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all well and good. In fact, let me simply declare that that is now a feature of the language. < 1467440283 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are we gonna define functions on the integers, now? < 1467440442 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, I haven't defined any way of defining homomorphisms at all. < 1467441576 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, I suppose theoretically I ought to just be able to say this: < 1467441653 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homomorphism square : forget Integer as Set -> forget Integer as Set { all x := mult x x } < 1467441703 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ol' "forget Integer as Set". One of my favorite algebras. < 1467441836 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I forgot the semicolon. < 1467441918 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess logically, I ought to be able to define the integers like this: < 1467441934 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define algebra Integer : RingWithIdent := free EmptySet as RingWithIdent; < 1467441966 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise, I ought to be able to define the natural numbers (in one of their incarnations) like this: < 1467441981 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define algebra PeanoNatural : NatNumAlg := free EmptySet as NatNumAlg; < 1467442022 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now ideally, one might like to be able to define the "inclusion" function from PeanoNatural to Integer. < 1467442035 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather, from "forget PeanoNatural as Set" to "forget Integer as Set". < 1467442996 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467443036 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467443210 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1467443293 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467443673 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467444528 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.21.246.132 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467444549 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1467444821 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467446488 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1467447953 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467448583 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467449362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/cube8.html ... that was tricky to reassemble :) < 1467449555 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:549c:7b30:cf5:a9b3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467449704 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467450963 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :corrolary to the sapir-whorf hypothesis: learning a new language increases the range of thoughts you can think. < 1467451039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps decreases it. < 1467451076 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: 2 is sometimes called I, the interval category < 1467451089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some ways it behaves like the closed interval [0,1] < 1467451103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this perspective a natural transformation is like a homotopy of functors. < 1467451120 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1467451186 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define the interval category in Tokiber easily enough... < 1467451207 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory Interval : CATEGORY { sort Domain; sort Codomain; arrow : Domain -> Codomain; } < 1467451234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you define hTop? < 1467451289 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The category whose objects are topological spaces and whose arrows are homotopy classes of continuous maps? < 1467451312 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as a theory, no. < 1467451326 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't define a theory that has uncountably many objects. < 1467451330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! < 1467451352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even uncountably many? < 1467451355 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you "could" do that, but only by writing an uncountable amount of code. < 1467451395 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the doctrine CATEGORY, you can't even define a theory that has infinitely many objects. < 1467451509 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A theory is a finite presentation of a category (or a category-with-a-terminal-object or a finite product category or a finite limit category). And every finitely presented category-with-a-cherry-on-top has only countably many objects. < 1467451695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what about infinitary theories? < 1467451702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? frame < 1467451733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A frame is just a complete Heyting algebra. Frame homomorphisms don't preserve implication, if you know what I mean. < 1467451790 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbrvnkdtpiqnyvbc QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467451824 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every definition represents a finite mathematical object. < 1467451827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«For infinitary theories, such as that of frames, there is a hitch. Step 2 of Theorem 4.3.6 tells us to form the set of all possible expressions using the generators and the operators, and at this stage the general theory doesn't use the algebraic laws to make any identifications between expressions (this comes in Step 4). This is fine for the finitary algebraic theories. However, for frames, we can mak < 1467451833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e new expressions by forming joins of ... < 1467451835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... arbitrary sets of older expressions, and this can't be done in set theory. Technically, the "set" of all possible expressions would be a proper class: it is too big to be a valid set. This is a genuine problem. There are infinitary theories (such as that of complete Boolean algebras - see Johnstone [82]) where this is insuperable and presentations simply don't present algebras. For frames, fortunatel < 1467451841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y, presentations do present, but we ... < 1467451844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... have to argue slightly carefully to show this.» < 1467451846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember any of this < 1467451848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look < 1467451857 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define a finite ring. You can't define an infinite ring, but you can define a finite presentation of a ring. < 1467451935 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's a lot like being able to define any finitely presented ring. < 1467452212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1467453002 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467454760 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know why all my compilers on linux create elf files where EI_OSABI is always 0 (which is sysv) instead of 3 (which is linux)? < 1467455238 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:549c:7b30:cf5:a9b3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467455276 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:549c:7b30:cf5:a9b3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467455542 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:549c:7b30:cf5:a9b3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467455661 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp /bin/ls .; file ls < 1467455677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x55f1e005df252708d4c456dcc2c7dccea1006553, stripped < 1467455683 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dd bs=1 seek=7 conv=notrunc count=1 of=ls status=none <<< $'\3'; file ls < 1467455685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd: invalid status flag: `none' \ Try `dd --help' for more information. \ ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x55f1e005df252708d4c456dcc2c7dccea1006553, stripped < 1467455694 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dd bs=1 seek=7 conv=notrunc count=1 of=ls 2>/dev/null <<< $'\3'; file ls < 1467455698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x55f1e005df252708d4c456dcc2c7dccea1006553, stripped < 1467455713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./ls -l ls < 1467455715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 114032 Jul 2 09:34 ls < 1467455812 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the elf files in my system are (SYSV) instead of (GNU/Linux) < 1467456764 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-glibc/2001-05/msg00169.html ... anyway, "If the object file does not use any extensions, it is recommended that this byte be set to 0." < 1467456780 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter quote is from https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/elf/gabi4+/ch4.eheader.html ) < 1467457961 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467458537 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1467461842 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The John Byrne modern-age Superman has canon regarding his facial hair < 1467461855 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off < 1467463267 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467463487 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the link int-e < 1467463852 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467464074 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1467464089 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467464645 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:996a:6e29:5964:7c7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467465155 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467465251 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Imperinatus! (Starring Harrison Fnord) < 1467466237 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1467466371 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467466525 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467466529 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467467891 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:996a:6e29:5964:7c7a QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467468111 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467468154 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1467469114 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467470907 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467471382 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467472050 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:bdc6:34a0:faad:4cf8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467472072 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:bdc6:34a0:faad:4cf8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1467472334 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467473732 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467476055 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a069:a251:9208:8a8b QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467476098 0 :Eatonion!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467476114 0 :Eatonion!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1467476141 0 :Eatonion!?@? NICK :Etaoin < 1467476258 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:bc5f:dd29:fc23:3575 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467476400 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467477409 0 :Etaoin!1f9373fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.147.115.251 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1467477599 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1467478586 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467479689 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Y Chromosome: The human condition's expansion pack < 1467479786 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b063:d30d:ddda:cdbd JOIN :#esoteric < 1467481740 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump 0 AA! < 1467481746 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AA = After Apocalypse) < 1467482695 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467482853 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1467482969 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1467483010 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1467484022 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is nobody going to talk about lwan? https://lwan.ws/ < 1467484048 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are talking about it right now literally in every other channel on freenode < 1467484286 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like nginx as a library? < 1467484333 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the channels I'm in are talking about it < 1467484341 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dito < 1467484363 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i would recommend to stay as far away from web development as possible < 1467484369 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1467484373 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing good can come of it < 1467484379 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :try googling lolphp < 1467484392 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did php < 1467484437 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a channel mode we can set to quarantine you? < 1467484454 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :/set mode -php < 1467484771 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any server solution beyond 10,000 RPS is only useful when you are dealing with more than 10,000,000 RPS < 1467484780 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worth trying otherwise < 1467484809 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(generally they come with severe trade-offs) < 1467485764 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's talk about toonemes! < 1467485794 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In cartooning, a tooneme is a component of a drawing which comprises the smallest cartonically meaningful unit. < 1467485828 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually, one single line. < 1467485966 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One eyebrow, one eyelid, one contour mark of whatever kind. < 1467486034 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1209 – look at all those toonemes! < 1467486139 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some interesting toonemes in between the eyebrows in panel 6. Three of them. < 1467486225 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Angry forehead wrinkles", I suppose. < 1467486521 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Fing < 1467486668 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1467487525 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18ab:576:1052:f2dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1467488524 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467488622 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467488661 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467488971 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1467490011 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18ab:576:1052:f2dc QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467490055 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18ab:576:1052:f2dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1467490329 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18ab:576:1052:f2dc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467491687 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1467492466 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :baaa < 1467493118 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467493157 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1467493431 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467494200 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467494201 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-234-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467494209 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467494394 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1467494781 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1467494788 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1467494939 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do these days < 1467495003 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :research compiler development, for about a month < 1467495016 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm looking for a new job, this one's a fixed-term contract that expires soon < 1467495072 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467495126 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :find me one while you're at it ;P < 1467495585 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467495664 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@198.143.186.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467497063 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@198.143.186.203 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467497065 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467497706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467497884 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this Dungeons&Dragons game story is one ogre is always cheating at dice (the dice are loaded so one always comes up 5 and the other one always comes up 2). We hear some ogre talking about one of them cheating at dice and one of them doubts it. To reverse the cheating, rub out the four corner dots of the five. Now they are certain to always lose at dice. < 1467500508 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467500794 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467500839 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467500999 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467501096 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467501627 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b063:d30d:ddda:cdbd QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467501651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467504435 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467504508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467504643 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467504932 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467505080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off <-- i vaguely recall at some point seeing/reading that he used a reflective piece from the spaceship that brought him to Earth, presumably because Earth materials couldn't take it... < 1467505080 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467505118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] Don't remember which age superman it was, though. < 1467505118 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467505478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467505542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self (after checking wiktionary): do _not_ porthello moon in a particular obvious way. < 1467505588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...I can't find that particular way < 1467505597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(helloon is also a bit dubious, come to think of it) < 1467505599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not helloon and it's not melloon < 1467505605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hoon hth < 1467505607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-houd < 1467505607 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 8m 47s ago: It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off <-- i vaguely recall at some point seeing/reading that he used a reflective piece from the spaceship that brought him to Earth, presumably because Earth materials couldn't take it... < 1467505607 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 8m 9s ago: Don't remember which age superman it was, though. < 1467505609 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1467505656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion[1] btw, that one's very wholesome. < 1467505693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well if we use the dated meaning, then it becomes potentially complimentary < 1467505704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because english doesn't use square brackets in words < 1467505734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't think so. < 1467505744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pimp is not a compliment hth < 1467505761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It is in some circles < 1467505772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, it's a positive-connotation verb < 1467505783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "Pimp My Ride" < 1467505803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the noun is not hth < 1467505830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the origin of "pimp" is "Perhaps from Middle French pimpant ‎(“smart, sparkish”)." < 1467505842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose Etymology 4 is fine. < 1467505853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(African American Vernacular slang) A man who can easily attract women." < 1467505873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that one is good? Assuming that we don't consider that to be a douchebaggy trait to emphasize? < 1467505886 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467505889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think only African Americans can safely use that slang hth < 1467505916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1467505918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1467505950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is one of the few contexts where "African American" is appropriate- when referring specifically to people of African descent living in the US) < 1467505952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like one of those things which could get you an SJW internet lynching < 1467505961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably < 1467505976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, most things can < 1467505983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :src: Dictionarygate < 1467506007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably missed that one. < 1467506037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i've missed most of them, by the simple expediment of not reading such fora. < 1467506048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Some of the example sentences in OED referenced women, and others attributed jobs like "doctor" to men < 1467506050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exception, the aaronson one. < 1467506078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("radical" had the example "A radical feminist" and most traditionally-male jobs used masculine pronouns) < 1467506081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the OED is like ancient < 1467506105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, their choices in example sentences may not be optimal, but it's not really important enough to get angry about < 1467506148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :offensingularity < 1467506150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like if the constitution used "negro" to refer to blacks- it's not exactly what we would prefer, but it'd be too much trouble to change it for too little gain < 1467506158 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467506195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if"? i thought it did so? although in an obsolete part < 1467506201 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the US one) < 1467506224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "pimp" is also five in Cumbrian and Welsh sheep counting < 1467506227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it might < 1467506233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't check for the purposes of the analogy < 1467506256 0 :zat!~ale@pc-121-247-100-190.cm.vtr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467506270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it didn't. < 1467506277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mentions Indians. < 1467506292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in the 3/5 paragraph i remembered. < 1467506304 0 :zat!~ale@pc-121-247-100-190.cm.vtr.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1467506305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's probably no reason to mention it otherwise. < 1467506332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probablt < 1467506334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*probably < 1467506345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe in one of the ammendments regarding voting? < 1467506400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, they wouldn't really have reason to reference any one race in particular < 1467506495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither the 13th or the 14th does, it seems. < 1467506553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed a mentioned in the 14th article that it had been interpreted to include other races < 1467506557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mention < 1467506607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people were against https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment#Text on the grounds that... it didn't allow women to have special rights for being women (e.g. working conditions or hours) < 1467506668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't know the original only had 7 articles < 1467506693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does #esoteric have a constitution for some reason? I can see it existing < 1467506698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, I can see a hacker constitution < 1467506707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1467506776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hits in https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_America < 1467506826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is, of course, supreme overlord of #esoteric < 1467506827 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: mr president, i read the sterling report of the working classes or financial support to the commission transferring all the unused appropriations from budget line fnord of the treaty, and we had to follow in all the directorates-general, and possibly modifying, the technical negotiations for the community's policy on mainstream and gender issues in development policy, of all the stages in the support of this roun < 1467506837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if fne ever manages to say something coherent, it is binding < 1467506957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful with that. there are some nasty things in the ct style. < 1467506964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1467506964 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1467506988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: who will bring an end to all? < 1467506988 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1467507029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you saying the sword will stop the world? < 1467507029 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. like that piano player. everyone's...! ...and the dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1467507042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elon musk doesn't count as an african american for ... reasons < 1467507251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well, he's south african-born, but there are white people in South Africa (see: Apartheid) < 1467507264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's Canadian-American, which is probably as white as you can get < 1467507269 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467507336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's probably also martian? < 1467507427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aliens/Life on mars, but it's just Elon Musk, somehow/Life-related chemicals/Cool extremophiles found on earth/No aliens < 1467507463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Theory: Elon Musk used the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" meme, then realized he was rich enough to actually do it) < 1467507529 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day I'll retire to the Moon < 1467507553 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least take a long vacation there < 1467507723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stealthily opens wikipedia/retirement to find potential jokes
< 1467507762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the first one is "It's a shame, he was just a day from being put in a metal box and exploded off the surface of the earth" < 1467507829 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The software "Astrolog" does not allow you to center a horoscope on the Moon. Other software may allow it I don't know; something based on Swiss Ephemeris may allow you to then subtract the numbers and convert to polar coordinates and therefore you can make the calculation relative to Moon. Neither of these software can calculate house positions relative to anything other than the Earth though. (If you select heliocentric mode in Astrolog, it stil < 1467507887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In thailand, you retire at 60 (or 50 if you retire early) < 1467507901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the US is terrible < 1467507910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have 5% employment at the ages of 70+ < 1467507911 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But house positions relative to Sun should be possible if you can know where is the zero longitude on the surface of the Sun. Do you know where the zero longitude of Sun is? < 1467508004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 seems to be turning into fungot, but more coherent < 1467508004 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: cyrus! are you leaving! thou art and science... all to you! < 1467508305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh... rap music and discrete mathematics are similar in that the phrase "for reals" is frequently used... < 1467508361 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have a lot of interest in rap music so I would not know, but OK now we can know! < 1467508534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I believe Norway encourages people to continue working after retirement. < 1467508542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to ask oerjan to confirm that, though. < 1467508618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/158414-america-is-the-wealthiest-nation-on-earth-but-its-people < 1467508755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going by US tax law, retirement age is 59½ or greater. < 1467509117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1467509150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1467509162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're also in the process of removing the upper age limits. < 1467509164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ^ < 1467509179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the involuntary ones, that is. < 1467509198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What involuntary limtis? < 1467509219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway: The opposite of North Korea < 1467509226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you reach ... it may be 67? ... your employer can fire you for no reason. < 1467509234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you don't wish to retire. < 1467509264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised all the other ISISes haven't changed their names yet < 1467509275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. the Institute for Science and International Security) < 1467509282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah. < 1467509286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well the egyptian goddess probably just sneers at the idea hth < 1467509287 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467509289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the US your employer can fire you for no reason at any time. < 1467509312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard. < 1467509328 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467509340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Zimbabwe, you don't have an employer < 1467509380 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would help to change their name to help to distinguish them, so that you will not confuse one with other, but in the correct contexts it can be clear. For Egyptian gods you can write "Isis" without capitalizing all of the letters, so that is not the problem. < 1467509408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i think your employment automatically expires then, unless you _explicitly_ get an agreement to continue. although my memory is not reliable on the details. < 1467509422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in norway) < 1467509450 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Depends on the state actually. < 1467509520 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And technically (but uselessly), they can only fire you for non-discriminatory reasons. < 1467509531 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467509542 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but do not have to say why they're firing you) < 1467509542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The general rule is that they can, unless the particular state says otherwise < 1467509562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I said "for no reason, not "for any reason". < 1467509571 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes. < 1467509585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bammert v. Don's Super Valu, Inc., 646 N.W.2d 365 (Wis. 2002) the Wisconsin Supreme Court held that it was not contrary to public policy for an employer to dismiss an employee on grounds of her husband's drunk driving charge" < 1467509594 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most of the US but not all of it, it is literally legal to fire someone on the basis of "because". < 1467509619 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why not? < 1467509660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might say: In some of the US, it is literally illegal to stop paying someone money unless you have good reason. < 1467509664 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1467509677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pressed ^J instead of ^K while editing that sentence. < 1467509739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I think California employment law is considered pretty employee-friendly in many ways. < 1467509745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at-will employment is still standard here. < 1467509798 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As with most things in labor relations, it's complicated, and any particular setup has pros and cons, and what's the best depends on a lot of things... < 1467509799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the kind of stuff that makes americans sound like space aliens to me. < 1467509823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WHO TOLD YOU THAT IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG < 1467509837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, lately norwegians do too so... < 1467509855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What would be a less space-alien way of doing things? < 1467509858 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buuut, well. Employers tend to be bargaining from an incredibly advantageous position, that employees are not, and as such it can make sense to limit the power that an employer has over their employees. < 1467509887 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limiting reasons that an employer can dismiss an employee seems like reasonable in that light. < 1467509895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually trying to get a proper balance of power between employers and employees? < 1467509900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think it makes the most sense to vaporize troublesome employees from orbit < 1467509965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds good. < 1467509981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, employees actually cooperating in order not to get abused. < 1467509993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka unions) < 1467510008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should scrap unions and use intersections instead < 1467510114 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that some things that some things that employers would put in the contract to work should be prohibited, that both sides should be allowed to terminate employment at any time for any reason, and that minimum wage should be decreased to zero. < 1467510136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( stand here in the middle of this intersection until you agree to pay us properly ) < 1467510193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why not decrease the minimum wage to a negative amount? < 1467510245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that zzo38 doesn't understand how power imbalance works. < 1467510275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it is not necessary and will not help. However, it can still be possible to lose money due to having to pay for parking and various other kind of services and products and so on. But the wages themself should not be allowed to be negative; the minimum should be zero. < 1467510290 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that oerjan is in a country without a minimum wage. :P
< 1467510297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: heh < 1467510319 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you're also in a country where unions are sufficiently strong that this is really a technicality. < 1467510371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. also we have a law (against "social dumping") which in certain cases allows enforcing union tariffs on non-unionized workers in an industry. < 1467510390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's e.g. been used in construction < 1467510408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that just "ionized"? < 1467510416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1467510680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.wikipedia lists for 2012: construction, ship building, agriculture and cleaning services < 1467510729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these are industries with major foreign workers and a history of abuse) < 1467510740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1467510749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a major amount of < 1467510801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the term is "Allmengjøring" and there's no english article) < 1467510812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nn < 1467511199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but have you considered the benefits that large companies see from exploiting workers < 1467511321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1467511351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467511873 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't even know what to think about unions < 1467512210 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think about intersections? < 1467513286 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467514027 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 80 < 1467514031 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 80: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1467514047 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: should danddreclist be edited twh < 1467514097 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibcicjxhdvyojvsj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never end up reading the updates these days anyway. ;-; < 1467514106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hynn < 1467514117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467514208 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1467514221 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can edit them by yourself if you want to though < 1467514246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit whom by yourself? < 1467514256 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibcicjxhdvyojvsj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the command to do so, so... < 1467514259 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit the danddreclist if you want to < 1467514272 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It looks OK to me though) < 1467514279 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if they are carved pips, scratching out the paint won't change the apparent value of the die... < 1467514298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: `sled hth < 1467514326 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: O, well, I don't know if it is carved pips or not, but because of what it says in the footnote (that I wrote), I will assume (for now) that they are not carved. < 1467514361 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, footnotes have nothing to do with it) < 1467514366 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is in the main text.) < 1467514471 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dice are big dice that can be used by ogres, so I don't know exactly its working < 1467514572 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they are these: http://www.orientaltrading.com/web/browse/processProductsCatalog?Nrpp=10000&sku=13674060&BP=PS490&ms=search&source=google&cm_mmc=Google-_-242030648-_-20452920848-_-Garden+Dice+Game&cm_mmca1=OTC%2BPLAs&cm_mmca2=GooglePLAs&cm_mmca3=PS490&cm_mmca4=FS39&cm_mmca5=Shopping&cm_mmca6=PLAs&cm_mmc10=Shopping&cm_mmca11=13674060&cm_mmca12=Garden+Dice+Game&gclid=CjwKEAjwzN27BRDFn9aAwLmH2yISJABWuEXcklu0LsVX_D0rO6w1wyL-46YQoJ7oKATadMn < 1467514596 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.242.253.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467514608 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it have so many query parameters? < 1467514625 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goo.gl/MGm5FU < 1467514663 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried omitting cm_mcca1 and everything after it and still found the page anyways. < 1467514683 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those dice do not look like carved pips to me as far as I can tell. < 1467514700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: whoa whoa whoa, posting url shorteners in irc for no reason is a bit rude < 1467514714 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if the dice are like those ones, then removing some of the dots should work < 1467514746 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i had a reason < 1467514749 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes exactly < 1467514752 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those look like fairly large foam dice, TBH. < 1467514757 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are wood < 1467514762 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1467514768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just post the canonical link, ? < 1467514770 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they are. < 1467514776 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says right there, it is wood < 1467514797 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because i didn't know how much i could delete without it going somewhere else, so it's easier just to click the url shortener button < 1467514811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a canonical URL right in the page. < 1467514820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: that would imply linking to a shock site via shortened url is rude, not that shortened urls are rude in themselves <-- no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. < 1467517069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1467517089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, if you click Twilight it counts in planck time < 1467517098 0 :Ipcipher!~pi@73.182.106.207 PART #esoteric : < 1467517539 0 :alercah!?@? NICK :^_^ < 1467517556 0 :^_^!?@? NICK :alercah < 1467517761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that wikipedia's featured article contains real life retirony
< 1467517801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irony about retirement? < 1467517810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a tvtrope < 1467517880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically in any action movie, the life expectancy of any character drops badly if it is ever mentioned that they're just about to retire. < 1467517909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm never going to retire. Ever. < 1467517919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan. < 1467518000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has the impression tvtropes has recently improved their site design. istr it went through a period it was pretty atrocious.
< 1467518040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i'm confusing with wikia, which still is. < 1467518071 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :TVtropes hasn't *significantly* changed their site design at all. < 1467518072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+when < 1467518077 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's changed, but not hugely. < 1467518313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What if they mention that they've already retired? < 1467518322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that they won't do their job maintaining the wisdom database? < 1467518335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens to their life expectancy then? < 1467518527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :skyrocketing hth < 1467518554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does swatting affect life expectancy < 1467518565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much unless you're a fly < 1467518625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never known a fly to swat anything < 1467518827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Retiring from minor roles on IRC can result in death, but only minor death on IRC < 1467518872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1437/) < 1467518877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they have some trouble holding the swatter < 1467518897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that relevant to anything < 1467518904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a comic strip < 1467518924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hover text < 1467518955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, the relevance is pretty minor < 1467518956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to link to a comic strip for every thought you have < 1467519005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Correct; only the ones for which there is a relevant xkcd < 1467519026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just be glad I'm not the supernatural fandom < 1467519028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, even if that comic strip has something vaguely related, you don't need to link to it < 1467519044 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'd link a comic for that comment but i cannot find one < 1467519066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1467519103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't < 1467519151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i can find is this reddit link hth https://www.reddit.com/r/RelevantXKCD/comments/24duue/looking_for_an_xkcd_about_how_theres_always_a/ < 1467519178 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to click on that < 1467519184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked you not to even do it < 1467519190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, they didn't actually find one. < 1467519210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didn't link to a comic. < 1467519220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some sort of cult of personality or what < 1467519228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is < 1467519260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the subreddit is of course about how there's always a relevant xkcd. < 1467519269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole phenomenon < 1467519295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time someone talks about sql injection someone links to that annoying bobby comic < 1467519295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1467519334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if that comic invented sql injection < 1467519334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is there an xkcd comic about people getting tired of memes ) < 1467519742 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl Harbor < 1467519781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's what I was looking for < 1467519787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's the meme density one? < 1467519805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh! The one where he saves old memes to use them again when everyone's forgotten! < 1467520010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does HTCPCP support unfalsifiable claims? < 1467521655 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467521658 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467521813 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467522215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polygraphs aren't very good < 1467522220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should upgrade to omnigraphs < 1467522349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some good monographs. < 1467522355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're probably going in the wrong direction. < 1467522425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What about nilgraphs? < 1467522428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides you are mixing greek and latin again < 1467522442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's OK, English mixes Greek and Latin all the time. < 1467522447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "hexadecimal" < 1467522459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats you both -----###
< 1467522468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1467522475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the fun of a swat is getting hilighted tdnh < 1467522531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats whoever invented "hexadecimal" in absentia -----###
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:hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* TheDcoder has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) < 1467544652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* TheDcoder (~TheDcoder@unaffiliated/thedcoder) has joined < 1467544654 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Women-only scholarships: The most sexist-ass bullshit I've ever seen < 1467544656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* FLHerne ( < 1467544658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1467544660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did that go through? < 1467545753 0 :AnotherTest_!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1467545828 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467545873 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czojatwtkxaoqoob JOIN :#esoteric < 1467545891 0 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NICK :AnotherTest < 1467547502 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@96-103.kg.ftth.internl.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467547507 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@96-103.kg.ftth.internl.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467548152 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467548445 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467549087 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: guess what, I just vacated your state. < 1467549277 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467549745 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467549851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467550042 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Wat? < 1467550053 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Which state? < 1467550071 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467550119 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alaska. < 1467550228 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh? < 1467550231 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacated as in left? < 1467550271 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it you went through our Series of Tubes Memorial Airport? < 1467550273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hmm, did you leave behind any surprises? < 1467550315 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anything e left would look out of place among anything else < 1467550385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a non-answerable question, of course; once revealed it would no longer be a surprise) < 1467550414 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever get to be in charge of a polygraph, I'm asking "Is the answer to this question no?" < 1467551383 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467552193 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467555151 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467555655 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467555753 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467558891 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467559297 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467559534 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1467562663 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5f7:bd47:cc03:883e JOIN :#esoteric < 1467562919 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5f7:bd47:cc03:883e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467563283 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:70e4:f028:3500:e61 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467563414 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ggjktzkvnxozoolo JOIN :#esoteric < 1467563579 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467566103 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467566113 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1467569912 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c90a:2fb2:9f2b:44ff JOIN :#esoteric < 1467570173 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c90a:2fb2:9f2b:44ff QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467570410 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467570668 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9593:dca9:ee4e:dbe6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467570745 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:652e:88:e718:8ffe QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467571477 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:6d68:36d9:7106:efba JOIN :#esoteric < 1467571501 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467575235 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467575583 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467576948 0 :sesshomariu!2efd3874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.56.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467576968 0 :sesshomariu!2efd3874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.56.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so thats da irc < 1467576970 0 :sesshomariu!2efd3874@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.56.116 QUIT :Client Quit < 1467577016 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1467577072 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :da irc was quiet < 1467577278 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467577755 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ggjktzkvnxozoolo QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467578348 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. <-- this seems obviously false. posting a shortened link and saying "this is a link to X" and it is should not be rude, unless trigger warnings are also rude. a link poster is not rude because someone else has a personal p < 1467578349 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467578355 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1467578454 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan it should be the job of the person with the personal policy to paste the link into getlinkinfo.com if they want to see where the link goes. < 1467578454 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467578643 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan or else, perhaps even easier, configure their terminal or browser to automatically send shortened links there < 1467578643 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467578809 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9593:dca9:ee4e:dbe6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467579248 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-dhwdvhmsoelsrrmi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467581169 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teltegjyuyygqfvx JOIN :#esoteric < 1467581326 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467581815 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ebgshxvdfxkjqgav JOIN :#esoteric < 1467582495 0 :moonheart!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1467582499 0 :moonheart!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1467582827 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467583498 0 :moonheart!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1467584434 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467585269 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467586465 0 :moonythedwarf!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :mop < 1467587018 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467587250 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have recommendations for a cross-device password manager? < 1467587726 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just spent several hours trying to build a thing where the main shell script did something like this for every command: cmd > logfile 2>&1 < 1467587759 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467588452 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1467589405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467589576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-foul < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 7m 7s ago: no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. <-- this seems obviously false. posting a shortened link and saying "this is a link to X" and it is should < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :not be rude, unless trigger warnings are also rude. a link poster is not rude because someone else has a personal p < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 5m 22s ago: it should be the job of the person with the personal policy to paste the link into getlinkinfo.com if they want to see where the link goes. < 1467589577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 2m 13s ago: or else, perhaps even easier, configure their terminal or browser to automatically send shortened links there < 1467589694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia i disagree. also it's your job to fix your client so your messages don't get cut off hth < 1467589694 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467589820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia as a more general rule, it is rude to push work on several others that it is easier for you to do yourself. < 1467589821 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467589841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just _knows_ he'll get that one back.
< 1467589851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(karmically) < 1467589923 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :most systems have a max level of scripts they can run with a shebang < 1467589934 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point the kernel just returns ELOOP < 1467589943 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized you can bypass this with /usr/bin/env < 1467589985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that reminds me < 1467590003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does HackEgo support running scripts as #! interpreters < 1467590010 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1467590023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that makes an idea i had much easier. < 1467590061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/*input < 1467590072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1467590083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/*input: No such file or directory < 1467590086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/print* < 1467590092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ "$#" -gt 0 ]; then printf '%s\n' "$*"; else cat; fi < 1467590106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to make a version of that can be used as a #! < 1467590121 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :else cat "$@" < 1467590132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1467590133 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then $# will never be 0 < 1467590151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1467590164 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :add shift at the beginning < 1467590172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1467590177 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no shift < 1467590188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok but i need to save what's shifted first < 1467590190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee < 1467590204 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :var=$1; bro do you even shift < 1467590235 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok just need to find out where the args go < 1467590245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/print* < 1467590249 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/print_args_or_input < 1467590286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what to call the modified script < 1467590353 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just shebang_args_or_input < 1467590381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would be like #!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python < 1467590404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it gets called with arguments python scriptfile restofargs < 1467590452 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:6d68:36d9:7106:efba QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467590536 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm suggesting a general metaethical principle that it not the purpose of etiquette and manners to compensate for the /choices/ of others. whether you want to do so should be a personal choice every time with no denigration if you choose not to < 1467590602 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have yet to figure out an acceptable way to make my client treat too long messages the way i'd like them to be treated, so i'm willing to accept the occasional cut-off message < 1467590721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: isn't the entire purpose of etiquette and manners not to disturb people unintentionally? < 1467590742 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/unintentionally// < 1467590747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can of course do it if you _intend_ to, in which case you are allowed, but _still_ rude. < 1467590763 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no < 1467590765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not < 1467590767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes. < 1467590771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are wrong hth < 1467590802 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is about establishing general principles that *everyone* is supposed to follow. societally enforced laws. a list of items which it is acceptable to refer to someone as rude for not obeying < 1467590822 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general we try to pick those items based on whether not doing them would disturb people unintentionally < 1467590834 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not disturbing people unintentionally goes well beyond manners and etiquette < 1467590853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1467590877 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing that should never be on that list is "it should be my fault for doing something that i had absolutely no way of knowing would offend you" < 1467590947 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe hitler didn't know that holocaust would offend jews < 1467591087 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1467591105 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he certainly kept doing it long after they made it clear to him < 1467591183 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467592004 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input < 1467592011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-03 23:26:39 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [126/126] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1] < 1467592021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv she* bin < 1467592027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467592034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/she* < 1467592037 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467592051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now what was that python script < 1467592104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -l python bin < 1467592105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin: Is a directory < 1467592109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -l python bin/* < 1467592116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/cAt \ bin/CaT \ bin/distort \ bin/gs2c \ bin/gs2.py \ bin/gs2x \ bin/icode \ bin/json \ bin/loudly \ bin/loudlye \ bin/multicode \ bin/rainbow \ bin/rainwords \ bin/raw-url \ bin/toutf8 \ bin/unicode \ bin/unidecode \ bin/uniqs \ bin/url \ bin/wl \ bin/zalgo < 1467592140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainbow it was < 1467592146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head bin/rainbow < 1467592148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import random \ import re \ w=raw_input() \ p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) \ random.shuffle(p) \ p=list(re.sub('C+','C',''.join(p))) \ i=(c for c in w) \ print ''.join(i.next() if c=='x' else chr(3)+'%02d' % random.randrange(2,15) for c in ['C']+p) < 1467592167 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow test < 1467592183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test | rainbow < 1467592186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1467592195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07t07e12s03t03 < 1467592198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467592248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/rainbow//1c#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python < 1467592254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rainbow//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import random \ import re \ w=raw_input() \ p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) \ random.shuffle(p) \ p=list(re.sub('C+','C',''.join(p))) \ i=(c for c in w) \ print ''.join(i.next() if c=='x' else chr(3)+'%02d' % random.randrange(2,15) for c in ['C']+p) < 1467592259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1467592272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that was right < 1467592275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow test < 1467592278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0910t09e06s07t11 < 1467592290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test | rainbow < 1467592293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0713t09e08s05t09 < 1467592297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :splendid < 1467592313 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head bin/rainwords < 1467592314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/python \ import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13]; print "\n".join((lambda s: " ".join(chr(3) + "%02d"%r[(i+s)%len(r)] + l[i] for i in range(len(l))))(random.randrange(0, len(r))) for l in w) < 1467592332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rainwords test using all the color colors, not just those 7 <-- not to my knowledge. does irc even allow that? < 1467592715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1467592733 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily ain't seen you here in a bit < 1467592735 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what been up to < 1467592742 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellørjan! < 1467592751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` loudly test = 2 and sys.argv[1] or raw_input() \ cyc = itertools.cycle(["\00304,09","\00309,04"]) \ print "".join(cyc.next() + c for c in unicode(inp, locale.getpreferredencoding())).encode(locale.getpreferredencoding()) < 1467592814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head bin/distort < 1467592814 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=330 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = ' \\ '.join(f.read().splitlines()) \ for i in xrange(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N] < 1467592837 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to shoot ANSI escape codes over IRC? < 1467592840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that one actually uses files. < 1467592878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot change it backwards compatibly. < 1467592909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you complaining about my loud tests < 1467592941 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I want more colours! :D < 1467592968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: probably, but do clients support them? < 1467592985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cAt test Did that go through? <-- far too much of it hth < 1467594705 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467594899 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467595609 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467595967 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1467596183 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467596708 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SACRED CHICKEN < 1467597274 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467597591 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teltegjyuyygqfvx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467598096 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ebgshxvdfxkjqgav QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467598114 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sottbijioekehzhx JOIN :#esoteric < 1467599848 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sottbijioekehzhx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467600033 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467600073 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467600321 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467600910 0 :moonythedwarf!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1467601094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mooning < 1467601715 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467601840 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467601868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nœd//Nœd is Norwegian for distress. < 1467603941 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making a new toolkit library for X and this is one example program that works so far: http://sprunge.us/AQAd < 1467603998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you have a program that automatically extracts code from "#if 0" and runs it? < 1467604082 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program "bash" will treat "#if 0" as a comment and stop once "exit" is reached, so that is what can be used < 1467604099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, of course. < 1467604713 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-74-221.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467605971 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467606868 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467607865 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e872:5704:5847:59d1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467607868 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e872:5704:5847:59d1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467608380 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1467608822 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467610141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467610448 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467610687 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467612094 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program makes a window with the title "Test!" and the mouse cursor shape is a eight-way arrow; when clicked it exits, the exit code tell which mouse button is pushed. Command-line arguments can be used to override the title, cursor shape, window size, and background colour. < 1467612160 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most usefull program of all time? < 1467612179 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is just an example of this use and just a test; nor very useful. < 1467612209 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Normally you should use XwicCreateFormWindow (which additionally sets up the event handler automatically and populates the window with widgets and a few other things) rather than XwicCreateMainWindow, although XwicCreateFormWindow is not fully implemented yet.) < 1467612288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467612290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Internet declared sovereignty and formed a government, what would its political structure be? < 1467612309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We assume that the people on the internet lack physical bodies and are no longer part of their host nations) < 1467612315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-houd < 1467612315 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 4h 53m 30s ago: Did that go through? <-- far too much of it hth < 1467612322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sry < 1467612376 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.200.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467612715 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.200.64 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467612828 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.200.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467613180 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/9UPuGZ/raw i just wrote this < 1467613206 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely someone else came up with it before me < 1467613223 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've never seen it anywhere < 1467613230 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: print("dang", NULL, "it"); < 1467613251 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you expect it to print in that case? < 1467613281 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd expect it to either segfault or vomit junk < 1467613301 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just don't pass null pointers to it < 1467614472 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-234-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1467614681 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: You need to va_end(ap); at the end of that function. < 1467614704 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i do but my compiler ought to help me find stupid bugs like that < 1467614719 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should, yes, but it doesn't. Grumble! < 1467614721 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler is stupid :) < 1467615579 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:35bf:c950:7e53:32a5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467615586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467615747 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I could write a Rust macro that does the same thing < 1467615766 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't < 1467615777 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my license is proprietary < 1467615787 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll sue the shit out of you < 1467615863 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a more serious note, what's the smallest amount of code you can copyright? < 1467616145 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: https://is.gd/iqltum Too late < 1467616181 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawyer up < 1467616217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467616263 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1467616362 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine works with numbers too < 1467616367 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they're in your address space < 1467616378 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can dereference them as pointer to char < 1467616425 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine works with any type that implements Display < 1467616525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq < 1467616832 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even need va_end(ap); < 1467616847 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust is so unfair < 1467617600 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@67.54.200.64 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467618030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467618043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :future//We know nothing about the future. < 1467618069 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what time it will be 1 minute in the future < 1467618126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball Was a bounty hunter justified in shooting this man's dog? < 1467618128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outlook good. < 1467618132 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1467618135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping that would work < 1467618143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what happens when you rely on random chance to make a joke < 1467618170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5mwymTIJU reflective of real Magic 8 balls? < 1467618171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may rely on it. < 1467618174 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have a joke ready for all possible outcomes < 1467618174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1467618183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Yeah, generally that's the case < 1467618197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is literal horseshit tasty? < 1467618199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1467618202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1467618220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Justin Bieber a good singer? < 1467618220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may rely on it. < 1467618227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Justin Timberlake a good singer? < 1467618228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concentrate and ask again. < 1467618230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Justin Timberlake a good singer? < 1467618231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certain. < 1467618242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm just waiting for the right response to trigger) < 1467618249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Miley Cyrus a good singer? < 1467618250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very doubtful. < 1467618254 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is 8-ball working correctly? < 1467618257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outlook good. < 1467618259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Hannah Montanna a good singer? < 1467618260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certain. < 1467618269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Donald Trump a good singer? < 1467618269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit, I can't believe you're even asking me. NO! < 1467618274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE we go < 1467618277 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball am I sane right now? < 1467618277 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't count on it. < 1467618291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a reference to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5mwymTIJU < 1467618295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all wondering < 1467618313 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball Is hppavilion[1] trying too hard? < 1467618314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes definitely. < 1467618320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1467618329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ty tdh < 1467618400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1467619597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the worst name for a US state (or other area) that a band could take? < 1467619609 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is US Virgin Islands < 1467619743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virgin Islands sounds like a h-game title < 1467620624 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467620794 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:35bf:c950:7e53:32a5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467621758 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467622225 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467622505 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467622535 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@84.241.193.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467622605 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it going? < 1467622781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately_64,695_Pounds_of_Shark_Fins < 1467622899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :United States v. Vampire Nation < 1467623152 0 :ejsf!~ejsf@84.241.193.220 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467623198 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Monday! < 1467623317 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been Monday for 17 hours here < 1467623996 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467624430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467624874 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400:0:ed2:92ff:fe3b:ec82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467625991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1467626392 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400:0:ed2:92ff:fe3b:ec82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467626796 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467627133 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467629025 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467629279 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467629379 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467629412 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1467629424 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wakey wakey HackEgo < 1467629462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-04 09:50:51.348726000+00:00 < 1467629558 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/dateu < 1467629565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec date --rfc-3=n -u "$@" < 1467629571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it has a pair, datei < 1467629576 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/datei < 1467629577 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec date --rfc-3=n "$@" < 1467629583 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`datei < 1467629584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-04 09:52:56.239897000+00:00 < 1467629601 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do the same on HackEgo, because it has UTC as its default timezone, < 1467629604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you can still do < 1467629618 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm disappointed tho < 1467629624 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` TZ=Europe/Paris; dateu; datei < 1467629626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-04 09:53:38.753286000+00:00 \ 2016-07-04 09:53:38.786882000+00:00 < 1467629630 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: why? < 1467629667 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that didn't work) < 1467629694 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` TZ=:Europe/Paris; dateu; datei < 1467629696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-04 09:54:47.754040000+00:00 \ 2016-07-04 09:54:47.788169000+00:00 < 1467629701 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no < 1467629722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1467630852 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467631418 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467631503 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` export TZ=Europe/Paris; dateu; datei < 1467631505 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-04 10:24:56.472202000+00:00 \ 2016-07-04 12:24:56.495597000+02:00 < 1467631506 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ^ < 1467631615 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467631896 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@work we have macros that end in try { < 1467632627 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh DUH < 1467632633 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know my bash < 1467632637 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1467632798 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467632815 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467634353 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467634418 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467634567 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467634611 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467635771 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467635773 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1467635776 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467635778 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1467635828 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467635835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467635836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :space elevator//Like the shorter and more familiar strings of stringed musical instruments, the cable of a space elevator has a natural resonant frequency. < 1467635836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vedalken AEthermage \ 1U \ Creature -- Vedalken Wizard \ 1/2 \ Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.) \ When Vedalken AEthermage enters the battlefield, return target Sliver to its owner's hand. \ Wizardcycling {3} ({3}, Discard this card: Search your library for a Wizard card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then < 1467635868 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of the Time Spiral block ones, right? < 1467635887 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, FUT time shifted < 1467635920 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card [a-z]cycling < 1467635923 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jhessian Zombies \ 4UB \ Creature -- Zombie \ 2/4 \ Fear (This creature can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or black creatures.) \ Islandcycling {2}, swampcycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Search your library for an Island or Swamp card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.) \ ARB-C, DDH-C < 1467636287 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:cd74:eb6b:b90c:1725 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467636533 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they ported docker in go https://twitter.com/icecrime/status/730422482516082688 < 1467636549 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:cd74:eb6b:b90c:1725 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467637476 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :// replace \n with "" and trim < 1467637477 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :replaceString("\n", "", lValue); < 1467637479 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :trim(lValue); < 1467637503 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful comments everywhere < 1467637993 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun codebase < 1467640822 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1467643530 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:957a:99fa:ce25:f4bb JOIN :#esoteric < 1467643803 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:957a:99fa:ce25:f4bb QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467645986 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381d:7b76:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467646030 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467647414 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467648374 0 :alercah_!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1467648405 0 :izabera1!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1467648578 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467648592 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467648933 0 :alercah_!?@? NICK :alercah < 1467648959 0 :alercah!?@? NICK :alercah_ < 1467648963 0 :alercah_!?@? NICK :alercah < 1467649256 0 :izabera1!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :handy: #define Sprintf(fmt, ...) ({ char *tmp; asprintf(&tmp, fmt, __VA_ARGS__); tmp; }) < 1467649444 0 :izabera1!?@? NICK :izabera < 1467650007 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381d:7b76:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467650108 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :moar comments from work: < 1467650109 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reboot the Solaris Server < 1467650111 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this sounds stupid, but even after restarting LDAP and enabling/starting/restarting the DNS client, things still didn’t work for me in the lab. However, after rebooting the Solaris server, it worked like a champ. So, just in case, reboot the Solaris server after completing the configuration. < 1467650264 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we have a trash bin with a /dev/null label http://i.imgur.com/K3ncORb.jpg < 1467650399 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: but reading from /dev/null gives EOF < 1467650406 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can do that from a trashcan < 1467650420 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In today's xkcd, am I supposed to assume there's more explanation omitted between the last two panels? < 1467650421 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sure am not gonna try < 1467650432 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, ais523 < 1467650479 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think so < 1467650683 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467650786 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:6d86:bce8:ecb:16ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1467651057 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:6d86:bce8:ecb:16ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467651197 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467651827 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467651955 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467652236 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1467652343 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467653171 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:35bf:c950:7e53:32a5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467654140 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467654393 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467654671 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:bc07:5b6c:211a:3217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467654931 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:bc07:5b6c:211a:3217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467655121 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fawbfewpjqkaukng JOIN :#esoteric < 1467656915 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467659227 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467659291 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467660013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467660269 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate C++ < 1467660297 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate kids < 1467660299 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467660300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be possible for it to have a type error in invisible code < 1467660321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeeeesh//See yeeeeeesh. < 1467660328 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you mean like in templates? < 1467660333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1467660346 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467660347 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow it generated a class with a type error < 1467660348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapole//A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1467660405 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: um, I dunno, if you want a strong type system, wait like a few more years till rust gains better support for generics (e.g. generics parametrized by compile-time constant values rather than by types, etc) and maybe use that < 1467660438 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, try Haskell < 1467660454 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell has sucky support for imperative code < 1467660513 0 :iaglium!~i@c-67-190-234-214.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Bed Time < 1467660569 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get how monads are "programmable semicolons" or whatever, but it would be nice if haskell had support for our normal semicolons that we've been using since 1970 < 1467660613 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467660621 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, "programmable semicolons" < 1467660621 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1467660625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. < 1467660639 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how to wisdom that < 1467661199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467661202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caffè//Caffè is an oddly-spelled hot beverage popular in Italy. < 1467661283 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a library that adds a goto statement to Heskell? < 1467661347 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I guess you would first need the ability to tell haskell what order to do things in < 1467661384 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then a simpler syntax for variables < 1467661399 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like, variable variables I mean) < 1467661489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Control.Monad.Imperative < 1467661528 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mmirman/ImperativeHaskell/blob/master/Main.hs < 1467661583 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When do you refill the lemon-scented paper napkins? < 1467661608 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you know, a lot of imperative languages could actually do with having a goto added. < 1467661622 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eg. ruby, python, rust. < 1467661632 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was surprised to learn that lua has a goto now.) < 1467661751 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467662481 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? napkin < 1467662483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :napkin? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467663073 0 :moonythedwarf!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :hbot got klined and i cant find any freenode staff >_> < 1467663241 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out, it's lemon-soaked paper napkins instead < 1467663357 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467663444 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fawbfewpjqkaukng QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1467664255 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467664605 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shashlearn napkin/A complement of small lemon-soaked paper napkins is essential for the comfort, refreshment, and hygiene of the passengers during the journey. < 1467664616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shashlearn: not found < 1467664628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn napkin/A complement of small lemon-soaked paper napkins is essential for the comfort, refreshment, and hygiene of the passengers during the journey. < 1467664635 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «napkin» < 1467664750 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to putting the name of the thing at the beginning of the wisdom entry? < 1467664763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why do you make those b_jonas-style wisdom entries? < 1467664912 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, they're sort of my style or something < 1467664960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, the statistical likelihood is, some day a civilization will arise, and then there will be small lemon-soaked paper napkins, and then there'll be a short delay before continuing your flight < 1467665076 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cake < 1467665079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1467665161 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have a good idea how to turn this one into a wisdom entry? I think it wouldn't be b_jonas-style => "<\oren\> I get how monads are "programmable semicolons" or whatever," < 1467665175 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, we already have a wisdom/monad < 1467665203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everything needs a wisdom entry. < 1467665231 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe addquote it or something, how does that work? < 1467665240 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? addquote < 1467665241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467665286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1467665323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're thinking it was the first time it was said or something? < 1467665336 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"programmable semicolons" is an old phrase. < 1467665350 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1467665355 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? programmable semicolons < 1467665356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmable semicolons? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467665362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "programmable semicolons" < 1467665363 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zacharyvoase.com/2014/04/30/monads/ < 1467665364 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Monads, or Programmable Semicolons | Zack’s Blog < 1467665387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a huge fan of it but it's been around for at least five years. < 1467666296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I see < 1467666964 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd prefer if languages like Haskell and C++ had fewer solutions to invented problems < 1467667057 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467667250 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ could have made more operators like the new[] and delete[] operators and thus done away with the vector<> class < 1467667380 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467668649 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1467668702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ should have had something like vector instead of new[] and delete[] < 1467669437 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:35bf:c950:7e53:32a5 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467670246 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right. if they had vector<> as a builtin that would also be good < 1467670276 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1467670853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the standard library. < 1467670860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better than built-in. < 1467673824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467674199 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467674438 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:388d:b065:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467674800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467675442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@work hm < 1467675485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION noticed izabera accidentally doing @work in the logs, and lambdabot not responding
< 1467675497 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@werk < 1467675497 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: where vera < 1467675507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@worf < 1467675515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@word < 1467675522 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@woom < 1467675522 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1467675529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list word < 1467675529 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "word" loaded < 1467675533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list work < 1467675533 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "work" loaded < 1467675538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bork < 1467675543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bork hi there < 1467675549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bank < 1467675549 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who should I ask? < 1467675553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1467675565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@worse < 1467675574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@worst < 1467675574 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1467675582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wor < 1467675582 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :world02 ..... CIA World Factbook 2002 < 1467675589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@world < 1467675589 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :world02 ..... CIA World Factbook 2002 < 1467675593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@work < 1467675602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1467675612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hork < 1467675620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wock < 1467675620 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/index.html < 1467675632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@park < 1467675632 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1467675638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.) < 1467675639 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a1 -> a2 -> b -> c) -> a -> a1 -> a2 -> (a3 -> b) -> a3 -> c < 1467675642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1467675646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foiled. < 1467675648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pock < 1467675648 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/index.html < 1467675656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1467675658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've figured it out already < 1467675687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Maybe a -> Maybe b -> Maybe (a,b) < 1467675688 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b = < 1467675688 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a of < 1467675688 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing -> Nothing < 1467675688 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just c -> case b of < 1467675688 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing -> Nothing < 1467675690 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just d -> Just (c, d) < 1467675697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Maybe a -> Maybe b -> Maybe c -> Maybe ((a,b),c) < 1467675697 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b c = < 1467675697 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a of < 1467675697 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing -> Nothing < 1467675698 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just d -> case b of < 1467675700 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing -> Nothing < 1467675702 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just e -> case c of < 1467675704 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing -> Nothing < 1467675706 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just f -> Just ((d, e), f) < 1467675709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, never mind. < 1467675715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's @more < 1467675722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1467675727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know how to make lambdabot say a bunch of text. < 1467675731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn work < 1467675732 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "work" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1467675732 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :work < 1467675732 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: activity directed toward making or doing something; "she < 1467675732 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : checked several points needing further work" < 1467675732 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: a product produced or accomplished through the effort or < 1467675734 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[112 @more lines] < 1467675736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@work < 1467675736 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : activity or agency of a person or thing; "it is not regarded < 1467675736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wook < 1467675738 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : as one of his more memorable works"; "the symphony was hailed < 1467675740 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : as an ingenious work"; "he was indebted to the pioneering < 1467675742 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : work of John Dewey"; "the work of an active imagination"; < 1467675744 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "erosion is the work of wind or water over time" [syn: < 1467675746 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[107 @more lines] < 1467675748 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1467675748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for the spam. < 1467675749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1467675765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I intended to spam, just not that much. < 1467675765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@moor < 1467675783 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:388d:b065:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467675843 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list bork < 1467675843 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "bork" loaded < 1467675906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1467675943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nerk < 1467675943 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :vera ........ V.E.R.A.: Virtual Entity of Relevant Acronyms < 1467675956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that is weird < 1467675962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list vera < 1467675962 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :dict provides: dict-help all-dicts bouvier cide devils easton elements foldoc gazetteer hitchcock jargon thesaurus vera wn world02 < 1467675965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list more < 1467675966 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :more provides: more < 1467675969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1467675983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong baseline < 1467676009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@woke < 1467676009 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wiki vote more < 1467676012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1467676417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Apparently, in the Harry Potter universe the Norwegian magic school teaches the Dark Arts as a class < 1467676444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, it might be in Sweden; it pretty much just serves the whole of Scandinavia) < 1467676512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1467676987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( As far as we know, #esoteric is full of wizards... ) < 1467677027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym wiseasses hth < 1467677762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Dark wizards < 1467677789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: omniscientasses? < 1467678273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hppavilion[1]. -0.3 shachafs. -----###
< 1467678292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth it. < 1467678300 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the negative sign hth < 1467678311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that was an anti-pun. < 1467678339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1467678550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION deflects the swat with a meat thermometer 0|------>
< 1467679140 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1467680790 0 :moonythedwarf!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-puns are for wimps, try a anti-anti-pun < 1467680967 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467681328 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1467681507 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :funktext < 1467681553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467681586 0 :funktext!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1467681588 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( evil idea: ban moon's non-nickname parts and then make ban exemptions only for moon@* and moon_@* ) < 1467681642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, is that moon_@* and moon__@* < 1467681644 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moon-moon < 1467681653 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit moon-moon < 1467681787 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/534/248/7f5.jpg < 1467681863 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.144.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467682443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that the same as 0.3 antishachafs? < 1467682481 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't freenode have a channel mode that prevents nick changes < 1467682501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably? < 1467682512 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome alercah < 1467682531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: i don't remember, except that it's a side effect of banning < 1467682546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1467682556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: also, it wasn't meant to apply to people _other_ than moon_ hth < 1467682590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out that Freenode lets you ban anyone who's banned in another channel. < 1467682602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether that lets you get over the ban list length limit. < 1467682615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spiffy < 1467682617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say it only works for one layer, i.e. $j: ignores $j:. < 1467682627 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why doesn't someone make a channel that bans *!*@* then to make it useless? < 1467682644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean: In one channel you can ban $j:#other-channel < 1467682748 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh < 1467682916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's evil about that idea, anyway? < 1467683048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's mobbing < 1467683062 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn mobbing? < 1467683063 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "mobbing?". < 1467683064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1467683066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn mobbing < 1467683067 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "mobbing". < 1467683084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just checked on wikipedia that the word exists in english < 1467683087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1467683130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1467683140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shallcross, Ramsay and Barker consider workplace "mobbing" to be a generally unfamiliar term in some English speaking countries. Some researchers claim that mobbing is simply another name for bullying." < 1467683146 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1467683153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's not that widespread. < 1467683157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if it's up to me, changing your nick all the time would be universally banned. < 1467683162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the standard term in norwegian. < 1467683186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple pseudonyms are fine, anonymity is fine, etc. < 1467683266 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shachaf < 1467683275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa alercah < 1467683281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08shachaf: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1467683282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.) < 1467683622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/tervetuloa < 1467683624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome.fi"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome.fi"; } < 1467683677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h irc.dahl.net < 1467683678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open irc.dahl.net: No such file or directory. < 1467683681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/h < 1467683682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -p \ s/([aeiouy])([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvxz])/$1h$2/ig < 1467683708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please fix h twh < 1467683722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that would h) < 1467683844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd welcome.fi//s,wiki/Main_page,,;s,kanav.*,kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.), < 1467683849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome.fi//Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.) < 1467683856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1467683859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1467683879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1467683887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd welcome.fi//s,wiki/Main_Page,,;s,kanav.*,kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.), < 1467683901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome.fi//Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.) < 1467683908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: since when do you speak finnish twh < 1467684003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: since never. also i just _knew_ i'd get trouble because yesterday script doesn't support that extra #! argument :( < 1467684011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yesterday's < 1467684064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait hm < 1467684071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl is special isn't it < 1467684118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you recommend joining a union < 1467684140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not special enough. < 1467684155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: unions are already joins hth < 1467684175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you met any union members < 1467684183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that against the rules < 1467684307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember anyone telling me if they were. < 1467684326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/has* < 1467684328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/has*: No such file or directory < 1467684346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you don't intersect them very often < 1467684351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*input < 1467684355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/print_args_or_input \ bin/shebang_args_or_input < 1467684371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/sheb* < 1467684372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ interp="$1"; script="$2"; shift 2; if [ "$#" -gt 0 ]; then printf '%s\n' "$*"; else cat; fi | "$interp" "$script" < 1467684385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lattice drop the subject < 1467684428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1467684494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only have one shebang argument, right < 1467684520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467684541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, there's an obvious, traditional solution here. < 1467684562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/slashlearn < 1467684564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb «$key»" < 1467684608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by traditional i mean insane) < 1467684649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what are you going to do < 1467684657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the part where i close my eyes < 1467684662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or you close your nose < 1467685207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input < 1467685211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-05 01:20:01 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [133/133] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1] < 1467685228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin < 1467685233 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467685237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow testing < 1467685240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1204t11e10s12t12i02n03g12 < 1467685251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/shebang_args_or_input < 1467685252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ interp="$1"; script="$2"; shift 2; if [ "$#" -gt 0 ]; then printf '%s\n' "$*"; else cat; fi | ${interp/"//"/ } "$script" < 1467685262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that really require `fetch < 1467685273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be better to improve mk < 1467685298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it requires `fetch because i tested it first hth < 1467685339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/h//1c#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl//-p < 1467685345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/h//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl//-p \ s/([aeiouy])([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvxz])/$1h$2/ig < 1467685350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h testing < 1467685351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tehstihng < 1467685355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1467685361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course, the motivation for // doesn't work here. < 1467685369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only makes sense for paths. < 1467685375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The argument to perl isn't a path. < 1467685383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now you need a way to escape // hth < 1467685385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it works in that perl itself is a path < 1467685395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, it won't have more than one argument. < 1467685397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure. < 1467685404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could also just use space? < 1467685405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming it's a converted shebang) < 1467685413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how? < 1467685421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm missing something. < 1467685433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl -p ? < 1467685444 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would run it with the argument "perl -p" < 1467685449 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it? < 1467685460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think shebangs worked that way < 1467685465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx tmp/sh//#!/bin/echo a b < 1467685466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/sh < 1467685469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tmp/sh < 1467685471 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b /hackenv/tmp/sh < 1467685472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just ignores arguments other than the first < 1467685485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it just includes the space in the argument. < 1467685496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have special treatment for spaces other than the first. < 1467685498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that doesn't tell whether it split the arguments or not < 1467685501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1467685525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm skeptical. < 1467685552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if that were the case, the special treatment i've read that perl does makes no sense. < 1467685555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx tmp/args//for a in "$@"; do echo -n "[$a]"; done < 1467685557 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/args < 1467685569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx tmp/sh//#!/hackenv/tmp/args a b < 1467685572 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/sh < 1467685576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tmp/sh < 1467685578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467685620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled tmp/args//1i#!/bin/bash < 1467685623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/args//#!/bin/bash \ for a in "$@"; do echo -n "[$a]"; done < 1467685629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tmp/sh < 1467685629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1467685631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[a b][/hackenv/tmp/sh] < 1467685639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you're apparently right < 1467685642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What special treatment were *you* thinking of? < 1467685656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant that even if you run "perl file.pl", it'll read the perl arguments from the #! line. < 1467685675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i've read that perl checks the first line < 1467685690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So have I. < 1467685692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i also read that it was because shebangs can only take one argument. < 1467685696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I described it. < 1467685710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you've showed that my way is overkill, so... < 1467685718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1467685725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't want anything overkill in HackEgo < 1467685745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe perl has a special case where it splits the #! argument on spaces or something. < 1467685755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input < 1467685759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-05 01:29:09 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [124/124] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1] < 1467685765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin < 1467685770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467685773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow testing < 1467685776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0211t11e09s10t14in06g < 1467685789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/h//s,//, , < 1467685791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/h//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl -p \ s/([aeiouy])([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvxz])/$1h$2/ig < 1467685796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h testing < 1467685797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tehstihng < 1467685804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1467685808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now you can't h a file anymore. < 1467685817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1467685819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That used to work until you changed it. < 1467685828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h changed < 1467685829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chahngehd < 1467685836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h pooch < 1467685837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poohch < 1467685855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well duh, don't ask me to fix things without telling me that < 1467685864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h doctrine < 1467685865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dohctrihne < 1467685894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_obviously_ a script cannot support both raw text on command line and filenames, duh < 1467685905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you treated it as a path if it contained // < 1467685935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so. there's nothing that cannot be in a raw text line. it would be illogical. < 1467685943 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, the Guardian is doing a series of specials on Canada this week < 1467685950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway your job now is to find nifty ways to give monoidal structure to the category of hask endofunctors twh < 1467685958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know of five ways < 1467685963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you think of another one < 1467686079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1467686124 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think it's obvious hth < 1467686152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, Canada? < 1467686154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: well, it cannot support filenames from the hackego `command style. < 1467686167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard Canada celebrated the 4th of july three days early < 1467686177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tmp/args abc < 1467686179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[ abc] < 1467686190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tmp/args < 1467686191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467686203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _could_ make it work in a script with a flag. < 1467686232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that h -f ... worked < 1467686239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or h -- ... < 1467686274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would want to make both of them work. < 1467686284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you could h -- -f if you wanted to h the string -f < 1467686425 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why not < 1467686442 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: escape characters exist < 1467686555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Escaping is one of the biggest scows in computer science. < 1467686586 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a silly example < 1467686607 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no i've better things to do < 1467686628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: well by "supporting raw text" i mean supporting _all_ raw text that can be given on the HackEgo command line. < 1467686662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, that would just be h -f < 1467686672 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are constraining yourself so as to deliberately make your problem impossible hth < 1467686679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the test wouldn't be for a flag, but for having more than one argument. < 1467686699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: i think you don't understand the spirit of HackEgo programming. < 1467686720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: note that the HackEgo command line is _not_ a shell command line. < 1467686769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in fact it could ignore what the first argument was. not sure if that's a good idea. < 1467687053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467687690 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467688280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input < 1467688283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-05 02:11:13 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [141/141] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1] < 1467688290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin < 1467688298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467688302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h testing < 1467688302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tehstihng < 1467688311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h -- testing < 1467688312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-- tehstihng < 1467688313 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1467688315 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1467688319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#! < 1467688328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` h -- wisdom/oerjan < 1467688341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1467688345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467688345 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats ais523! < 1467688349 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah he's not here < 1467688359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467688361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` h -- wisdom/oerjan "shebang_args_or_input" [1] < 1467688886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin < 1467688890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467688899 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` h -- wisdom/oerjan < 1467688900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youhr myhstehriouhs ahrtihclehd cahcklihng zohmbie uhndehrlohrd kohmmihsjohnær ehmehrihtuhs oehrjahn ihs a lahzy ehxpehrt ihn fuhtuhre cohmpuhtahtiohn. Ahlso a Prehcahmbriahn Nohrwehgiahn who mihldly dihslihkehs Roahld Dahhl wihth a pahsjohn. Lahtehly whehn he triehs to rehmehmbehr a wohrd, "ahmohrtihzehd" pohps uhp. Hihs ahrch-nehmehsihs ihs Beht < 1467688906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` h wisdom/oerjan < 1467688908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wihsdohm/oehrjahn < 1467688918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h wisdom/oerjan < 1467688919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wihsdohm/oehrjahn < 1467688932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? oerjan | h < 1467688936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youhr myhstehriouhs ahrtihclehd cahcklihng zohmbie uhndehrlohrd kohmmihsjohnær ehmehrihtuhs oehrjahn ihs a lahzy ehxpehrt ihn fuhtuhre cohmpuhtahtiohn. Ahlso a Prehcahmbriahn Nohrwehgiahn who mihldly dihslihkehs Roahld Dahhl wihth a pahsjohn. Lahtehly whehn he triehs to rehmehmbehr a wohrd, "ahmohrtihzehd" pohps uhp. Hihs ahrch-nehmehsihs ihs Beht < 1467688964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok now it can be used in 3 different ways. < 1467689393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Tmux buggy < 1467689548 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo oops | h | h < 1467689551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oohhps < 1467689574 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo oops | xxd | h | h < 1467689579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 6f6f 7073 0a oohhps. < 1467689593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467689663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467689687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467689721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467689748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467689766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1467689914 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467690050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh there you are. < 1467690092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux starts, and opens programs, but does not seem to show me the session < 1467690171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed to use ^B) to get to it < 1467690194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now food -> < 1467690731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467691158 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow qwertyuiopasdfghjkl < 1467691172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1010q05w05e10r06t10y03u12i10o02pa12s04d12f11g09h04j14k07l12 < 1467691204 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure that putting the colors in a rondom order is a good "rainbow" < 1467691270 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the fixed sequential order better < 1467691313 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should do red yellow green cyan blue magenta < 1467691320 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and repeat < 1467691337 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't gray in a rainbow < 1467691432 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tcc -v < 1467691435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: tcc: command not found < 1467691438 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1467691450 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc -v < 1467691457 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:1: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘-’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1467691463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1467691477 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -v < 1467691479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using built-in specs. \ COLLECT_GCC=gcc \ COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/lto-wrapper \ Target: x86_64-linux-gnu \ Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Debian 4.7.2-5' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.7/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,go,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=-4.7 < 1467691482 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1467691543 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb making a better rainbow < 1467691892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467692151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467692655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: rainwords does them in order, rainbow is different for traditional reasons. < 1467692695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467692715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If thou gaze long into /dev/null... < 1467692721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /dev/null < 1467692727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tradition < 1467692764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467692765 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467692776 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it allowed to eat a scow at a shindig? < 1467692800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sbeef < 1467692807 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbeef? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467692837 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >orenbow.c <<<$'#include \n''int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&192))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;}' < 1467692846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow < 1467692858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467692886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'sbeef': sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow < 1467692896 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow < 1467692901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: using c means it cannot use my wrapper script :( < 1467692940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not directly, anyway. < 1467692940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what is the name for a scut of sbeef generally sliced perpendicular to the smuscle fibers? ssteak? < 1467692940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467692964 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`orenbow foobar < 1467692971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: orenbow: not found < 1467693004 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` orenbow <<<"foobars" < 1467693019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody gotten a bot running on HackEgo? < 1467693020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: orenbow: command not found < 1467693026 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./orenbow <<<"foobars" < 1467693029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the problem with doing work on HackEgo is that it inspires others to do misguided experiments :( < 1467693038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: ./orenbow: No such file or directory < 1467693104 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv orenbow bin < 1467693120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `orenbow': No such file or directory < 1467693137 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -rnw '/wisdom' -e "cow" < 1467693149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /wisdom: No such file or directory < 1467693151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1467693154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1467693155 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls orenbow.c < 1467693203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ orenbow.c \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1467693204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenbow.c < 1467693222 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow; ls orenbow < 1467693246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1467693252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat orenbow.c < 1467693252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r './wisdom' -e "cow" < 1467693255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenbow < 1467693265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&192))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;} < 1467693265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo slooooooo < 1467693273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./wisdom/sbeef:sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow \ ./wisdom/cow:A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees. \ ./wisdom/scow:Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp. < 1467693276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Correct, and it's my job to worsen it < 1467693284 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv orenbow bin < 1467693288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467693288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my suspicion was wrong. < 1467693304 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` orenbow <<<"hello world" < 1467693306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hello world < 1467693307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the first gcc just timed out. < 1467693310 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is chief of botslowenning
< 1467693330 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` orenbow <<<"1234567890" < 1467693332 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1234567890 < 1467693337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ... < 1467693342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has an idea
< 1467693346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? graham's number < 1467693348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :graham's number? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467693353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? g64 < 1467693355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g64? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467693359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/rainb* < 1467693362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rainbow < 1467693373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/rainbow{,.old} < 1467693379 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467693388 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn graham's number/graham's number isn't as delicious as his crackers. < 1467693393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «graham's number» < 1467693471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait this won't work < 1467693474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1467693478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467693480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1467693504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/rainbow//print_args_or_input "$@" | orenbow < 1467693508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rainbow < 1467693513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow testing < 1467693514 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​testing < 1467693544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it in the finest horrible C. < 1467693567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's the misguided experiment? < 1467693572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp orenbow.c src < 1467693580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467693584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i changed my opinion a bit. < 1467693596 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow でもウニコードを出来る < 1467693598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​でもウニコードを出来る < 1467693603 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EHHHHH < 1467693635 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I totally thought that would work < 1467693664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you'll need some utf-8 handling < 1467693685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only put it in front of initial bytes, or something < 1467693692 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has that, but it's not working < 1467693696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467693698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee < 1467693717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow Ørjan < 1467693725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan < 1467693728 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat orenbow.c < 1467693730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&192))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;} < 1467693743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(!(a&128)||(a&192)) < 1467693744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong test maybe? < 1467693783 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the upper bit is clear, or the upper two bits are set... < 1467693816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't remember which is which
< 1467693823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord Ø < 1467693823 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :195 152 < 1467693903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord でも < 1467693903 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :227 129 167 227 130 130 < 1467693914 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks plausible < 1467694019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int a=227; printf("%d\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); < 1467694034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :will that even finish these days. < 1467694037 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1467694043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1467694081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main () { int a=227; printf("%d\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); } < 1467694089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1467694107 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467694119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea what he's doin ... oh.
< 1467694138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That moment when you open a Wikipedia citation for more information and it's completely unrelated < 1467694145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c #include \nint main () { int a=227; printf("%d\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); } < 1467694155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1467694156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hundreds attended his funeral[1]" < 1467694164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ < 1467694165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main () { int a=227; printf("%d\\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); } < 1467694174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1467694187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main () { int a=129; printf("%d\\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); } < 1467694195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1467694205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that doesn't look good < 1467694245 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main () { int a=129; printf("%d\\n",a&192); } < 1467694251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :128 < 1467694259 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH FUCK < 1467694273 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an idiot < 1467694307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure why it matters that it's not 0 or 1 < 1467694312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467694314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh :P < 1467694324 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main () { int a=129; printf("%d\\n",!(a&192)-192); } < 1467694328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-192 < 1467694341 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good I can fix it in place < 1467694349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: just s/192/64/, i think. < 1467694376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the other test ensures if you get there, the highest bit is set. < 1467694386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1467694412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd graham's number//s,.,G, < 1467694418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/graham's number//Graham's number isn't as delicious as his crackers. < 1467694449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits "$(lastfiles)" < 1467694464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oren < 1467694493 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '' -e 's/192/64/' orenbow.c < 1467694498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read : No such file or directory < 1467694545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/192/64/' -i orenbow.c < 1467694548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694556 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat orenbow.c < 1467694559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;} < 1467694632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp orenbow.c src < 1467694637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694689 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow; ls orenbow < 1467694711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenbow < 1467694728 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv orenbow bin < 1467694732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694739 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow でもウニコードを出来る < 1467694740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​でもウニコードを出来る < 1467694745 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1467694757 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/;putchar\(a\);/,/' -i orenbow.c < 1467694760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you just putting everything in the root directory? < 1467694816 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat orenbow.c < 1467694818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;} < 1467694826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember: There will come a day when rickrolling is no longer effective < 1467694830 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/;putchar(a);/,/' -i orenbow.c < 1467694835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :l/rn2sled < 1467694877 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/>4);/>4);putchar(a);/' -i orenbow.c < 1467694882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694885 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat orenbow.c < 1467694887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;} < 1467694893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1467694894 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99.sh \ bf \ bob.c \ brainfuck.fu \ c \ ciol \ ciol.c \ daoyu.c \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ hello2.c \ hello.c \ maze.c \ orenbow.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm < 1467694896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put source in src/ < 1467694906 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow; ls orenbow; < 1467694906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything you do is recorded in version control forever. < 1467694913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv orenbow.c src/ < 1467694919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenbow < 1467694924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694932 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv orenbow bin < 1467694937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467694938 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow でもウニコードを出来る < 1467694940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​でもウニコードを出来る < 1467694943 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1467694982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you're not even using IRC colors. < 1467694994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those did look a bit strange < 1467694996 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る < 1467694998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​本当にウニコードを虹色出来る < 1467695058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also your UTF-8 handling is wrong. < 1467695064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, why aren't you starting with red < 1467695071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is it? < 1467695080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe it isn't. < 1467695085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we just fixed that. < 1467695090 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my list of colors is the string "\37! $\"#" feel free to reorder it < 1467695100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess it works for valid UTF-8. < 1467695106 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit hackish, but it'll work with any valid UTF-8. < 1467695164 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can change c=1 to c=0 < 1467695169 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1467695175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1467695194 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey everyone, māke sure not to get caught off-guard bȳ thē new macron rūle. < 1467695195 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? macron < 1467695199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ā macron is what you put ōver ā long vowel in order to mark it as ā long vowel. Macrons will bēcome mandatory in English on Octōber 14, 2016. < 1467695208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/orenbow.c//s,c=1,c=0, < 1467695209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosebud! < 1467695217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1467695222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled src/orenbow.c//s,c=1,c=0, < 1467695227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how c works hth < 1467695227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/orenbow.c//#include \ int main(){int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;} < 1467695232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why is that program even written in C? < 1467695236 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I'm still on an old version of English. I spell it "coöperate", and as such will not be coöperating with you. < 1467695246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/orenbow.c -o bin/orenbow < 1467695260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467695269 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る < 1467695270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​本当にウニコードを虹色出来る < 1467695273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1467695276 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because i like c < 1467695284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you need to compile it. < 1467695285 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "cōöperāte" hth? < 1467695292 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: :( < 1467695300 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cooperate < 1467695301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooperate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467695312 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn "Cooperate" is a common misspelling of "cōöperāte". < 1467695316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '"cooperate"': "Cooperate" is a common misspelling of "cōöperāte". < 1467695321 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonono. < 1467695330 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also it means poor hackego doesn't have to fire up another interpreter program adding to its abysmal response time < 1467695341 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv -v wisdom/{'"cooperate"',cooperate} < 1467695345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/"cooperate"' -> `wisdom/cooperate' < 1467695376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running a Python interpreter isn't what makes HackEgo slow. < 1467695390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: since when does "a" have a long vowel < 1467695401 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wc bin/orenbow < 1467695403 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 26 85 7149 bin/orenbow < 1467695419 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's pretty big < 1467695441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it does include printf < 1467695555 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it depends on Du cAdens uv Du spEkR < 1467695556 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're static linking it, so no it doesn't. < 1467695567 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it will have debug info. < 1467695573 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1467695575 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1467695578 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/orenbow.c -Os -g -o bin/orenbow < 1467695578 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc -o tmp/orenbow src/orenbow.c < 1467695591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You're adding -g? < 1467695591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc: fatal error: no input files \ compilation terminated. < 1467695593 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wc bin/orenbow < 1467695598 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Derp < 1467695603 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/orenbow.c -Os -s -o bin/orenbow < 1467695619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467695623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 2 61 4696 bin/orenbow < 1467695630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467695639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lotta bytes. < 1467695646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wc bin/orenbow < 1467695647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should write it in x86 assembly instead. < 1467695649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 9 137 9037 bin/orenbow < 1467695650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` uname -r < 1467695651 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.13.0-umlbox < 1467695666 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` uname -a < 1467695667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1467695733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat src/orenbow.c < 1467695735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;} < 1467695837 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose at the machine level it would be fastest to call write() directly < 1467695848 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily. < 1467695861 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, unless you do buffering similar to what stdio does. < 1467695879 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1467695909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being fastest has nothing to do with any of it. < 1467695936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what hppened back there? the one with -g was smaller than the one with -s!!! < 1467695984 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we had some racing going on. < 1467696019 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/orenbow.c -Os -s -o bin/orenbow < 1467696024 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego is multithreaded? oh, that's marvelous < 1467696032 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1467696034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696035 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wc bin/orenbow < 1467696038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 2 61 4696 bin/orenbow < 1467696110 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow well, at least the colors of the rainbow are back in harmony < 1467696112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​well, at least the colors of the rainbow ar[3 < 1467696117 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1467696131 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, length limit < 1467696165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use IRC colors. Probably more compact. < 1467696171 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. < 1467696172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04w08e09l11l12, 13a04t 08l09e11a12s13t 04t08h09e 11c12o13l04o08r09s 11o12f 13t04h08e 09r11a12i13n04b08o09w 11a12r13e 04b08a09c11k 12i13n 04h08a09r11m12o13n04y < 1467696200 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm *googles irc colors* < 1467696216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh righ hm < 1467696222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rainbow.old < 1467696224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import random \ import re \ w=raw_input() \ p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) \ random.shuffle(p) \ p=list(re.sub('C+','C',''.join(p))) \ i=(c for c in w) \ print ''.join(i.next() if c=='x' else chr(3)+'%02d' % random.randrange(2,15) for c in ['C']+p) < 1467696243 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme go tinker with things. < 1467696246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old one took care of the limit. < 1467696328 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm well there is some length optimization that can be dome < 1467696332 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*done < 1467696360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it doesn't add more than there's room for. < 1467696383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i don't think it was utf-8 clean. < 1467696411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る | bin/rainbow.old < 1467696414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12æ03œ05¬08å13½07“06ã0906«08ã09‚04¦07ã03ƒ‹06ã‚08³ãƒ02¼04ã07ƒ06‰02ã‚10’13è™10¹è08‰03²05å06‡05º09来11ã09‚02‹ < 1467696423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did \oren\ just trick me into saying something really rude in Japanese? < 1467696439 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1467696444 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/{/{printf("\e[1m");/' -i orenbow.c < 1467696445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read orenbow.c: No such file or directory < 1467696462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you use sled? < 1467696465 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/{/{printf("\e[1m");/' -i src/orenbow.c < 1467696470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696473 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's slightly butchered, but I think it's supposed to be "I can really do rainbow-colored Unicode". < 1467696477 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no idea how < 1467696512 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't that Unicode ユニコード < 1467696519 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that// < 1467696524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/;1m/m/' -i src/orenbow.c < 1467696527 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ウニコード is more like Woonicode < 1467696528 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I messed that up < 1467696571 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat src/orenbow.c < 1467696573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){printf("e[1m");int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%dm","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;} < 1467696594 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: since whenever you empasīze it. < 1467696615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: but usually you don't. < 1467696628 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's trūe. < 1467696631 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/e[/\\e[/' -i src/orenbow.c < 1467696635 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 10: unterminated `s' command < 1467696645 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/e\[/\\e\[/' -i src/orenbow.c < 1467696651 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696654 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat src/orenbow.c < 1467696656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){printf("\e[1m");int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%dm","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;} < 1467696656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sled < 1467696660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sled? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467696662 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme try this out... < 1467696680 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wē'll have to let consensus figure out whether or not "a" is to bē macronned. < 1467696681 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there that should reduce the output length some < 1467696705 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were going to reduce binary size. < 1467696706 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, y'know, Ī'm sure that mȳ macron convention will tāke off. < 1467696716 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る < 1467696718 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09本09,04当04,09に09,04ウ04,09ニ09,04コ04,09ー09,04ド04,09を09,04虹04,09色09,04出04,09来09,04る < 1467696732 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly I wasn't expecting that to work. < 1467696735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09I09,04 04,09w09,04a04,09s09,04n04,09'09,04t04,09 09,04e04,09x09,04p04,09e09,04c04,09t09,04i04,09n09,04g04,09 09,04t04,09h09,04a04,09t09,04 04,09t09,04o04,09 09,04w04,09o09,04r04,09k09,04. < 1467696747 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \\n''#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%2d%s%lc", c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}' < 1467696755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696789 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1467696816 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grumble, doesn't work, w/e < 1467696822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn sled // < 1467696827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'sled': sled // < 1467696848 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/orenbow.c -o bin/orenbow < 1467696855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1467696861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn sled/`sled // < 1467696870 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow well, at least the colors of the rainbow are back in harmony < 1467696872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «sled» < 1467696873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​well, at least the colors of the rainbow are back in harm < 1467696878 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1467696891 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, helps if you don't fuck it up. < 1467696912 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \\n''#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}' < 1467696918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696925 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1467696931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/pikhqbow.c:1:19: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive [enabled by default] \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status < 1467696941 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1467696971 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n''#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}' < 1467696975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467696977 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1467696981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/pikhqbow.c:2:19: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive [enabled by default] \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status < 1467696991 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat src/pikhqbow.c < 1467696993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \nint main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L,?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;} < 1467697064 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your second include line is in '' and not $'' < 1467697074 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}' < 1467697078 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467697084 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1467697089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/pikhqbow.c: In function ‘main’: \ src/pikhqbow.c:3:95: error: ‘L’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ src/pikhqbow.c:3:95: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ src/pikhqbow.c:3:97: error: expected expression before ‘?’ token < 1467697101 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That got pasted wrong or something. < 1467697108 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, duh, '' < 1467697129 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n''#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L'\'','\''?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}' < 1467697134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467697138 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1467697142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/pikhqbow.c:2:19: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive [enabled by default] \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status < 1467697151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467697166 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat src/pikhqbow.c < 1467697169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \nint main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;} < 1467697184 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L'\'','\''?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}' < 1467697187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467697192 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1467697207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467697208 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "Testing, 1 2 3!" | ./bin/pikhqbow < 1467697210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02T03e04s05t06i07n08g09,99,10 11112 13202 03304!05 < 1467697263 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh what i dont even < 1467697287 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :colors in worng order anyway < 1467697313 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using IRC colors in IRC color order and using wchar_t to handle Unicode lazily. < 1467697349 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but why did it change to a green backgorund < 1467697366 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, it shouldn't, and doesn't here? < 1467697371 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467697384 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "rōmaji de yunikōdo wo tesuto shimashō!" | ./bin/pikhqbow < 1467697386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02r < 1467697396 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1467697407 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh duh, duh, duh, setlocale needed. :P < 1467697410 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm seeing a green backgorund on ``, 1 2 3!'' < 1467697413 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION officially stops caring
< 1467697446 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's your client being buggy: color 99 is the default background, which your client is interpreting as green. < 1467697480 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm wht's the channel for irssi? < 1467697484 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Oh, no, there's client differences. < 1467697485 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFS. < 1467697505 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 is either the default background *or* the color 99%16. < 1467697521 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mine uses ansi colors which are relatively standards < 1467697543 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but IRC colors are a well-accepted standard on IRC as well. < 1467697581 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, IRC colors appear to have a bit of utter brain-damage: you can't reasonably color "," individually. < 1467697584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04a08b09c11d12e13f < 1467697585 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's part of the syntax. < 1467697622 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "well the colors of the rainbow are out of harmony" | ./bin/pikhqbow < 1467697623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02w03e04l05l06 07t08h09e10 11c12o13l02o03r04s05 06o07f08 09t10h11e12 13r02a03i04n05b06o07w08 09a10r11e12 13o02u03t04 05o06f07 08h09a10r11m12o13n02y03 < 1467697635 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A color is set with "\x03%02d", and a color *and background* is set with "\x03%02d,%02d". < 1467697676 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could add bright colors to mine maybe < 1467697692 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dark ones < 1467697708 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, rainbows have bright colors < 1467697734 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, IRC colors suck. Grumble. < 1467697735 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh, I see why you can't do , < 1467698046 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's test4, shall we? < 1467698061 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay, that'll do. < 1467698153 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about this 2,fooar < 1467698167 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about this 2,3fooar < 1467698187 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. it only eats a , if followed directly by a number < 1467698299 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1467698436 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "the,3monster,4eats,5commas,6with,7numbers" | ./bin/pikhqbow < 1467698440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02t03h04e05,99,06307m08o09n10s11t12e13r02,99,03404e05a06t07s08,99,09510c11o12m13m02a03s04,99,05606w07i08t09h10,99,11712n13u02m03b04e05r06s07 < 1467698461 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok apparently it doesnt < 1467698480 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does however turn everything green background < 1467698484 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :``cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n#include \n#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,7,8,9,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(a++==6)a=0;goto b;} < 1467698486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `cat: not found < 1467698505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The script I uses uses 4,8,9,11,12,13 < 1467698530 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n#include \n#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(a++==6)a=0;goto b;} < 1467698532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1467698538 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n#include \n#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(a++==6)a=0;goto b;}' < 1467698542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467698555 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1467698572 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467698585 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "rōmaji de yunikōdo wo tesuto shimashō!" | ./bin/pikhqbow < 1467698588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4r8ō9m11a12j13i-1078776480 4d8e9 11y12u13n-1078776480i4k8ō9d11o12 13w-1078776480o4 8t9e11s12u13t-1078776480o4 8s9h11i12m13a-1078776480s4h8ō9!11 < 1467698599 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's novel. < 1467698641 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include \n#include \n#include \n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(++a==6)a=0;goto b;}' < 1467698645 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467698649 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1467698658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467698663 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "rōmaji de yunikōdo wo tesuto shimashō!" | ./bin/pikhqbow < 1467698664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4r8ō9m11a12j13i4 8d9e11 12y13u4n8i9k11ō12d13o4 8w9o11 12t13e4s8u9t11o12 13s4h8i9m11a12s13h4ō8!9 < 1467698675 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "And, well, what about this?" | ./bin/pikhqbow < 1467698677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4A8n9d11,12 13w4e8l9l11,12 13w4h8a9t11 12a13b4o8u9t11 12t13h4i8s9?11 < 1467698702 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/rainbow < 1467698705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" | orenbow < 1467698776 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/rainbow//print_args_or_input "$@" | pikhqbow < 1467698782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rainbow < 1467698792 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow "Fine, happy now?" < 1467698793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4"8F9i11n12e13,4 8h9a11p12p13y4 8n9o11w12?13"4 < 1467698799 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467698834 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will probably do weird shit with combining characters though... < 1467698852 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow https://youtu.be/82prN2pF9Zo < 1467698853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4h8t9t11p12s13:4/8/9y11o12u13t4u8.9b11e12/138428p9r11N12213p4F899Z11o12 < 1467698858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine did too < 1467698889 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, my terminal doesn't screw up rainbowed urls < 1467698890 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow À < 1467698892 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4A8̀9 < 1467698898 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can still click on them < 1467698904 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaddya know, it doesn't mess up on combining characters. < 1467698922 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it'll probably get colored weirdly. < 1467698937 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that something didn't normalize it on the way? < 1467698943 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I am not. < 1467698989 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, actually, looking at the log, now I am sure. < 1467699066 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "foobar" | zalgo | pikhqbow < 1467699071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4f8͎9̃11o12̰13̬4o8̪9̺11b12̈́13̭4a8͂9̺11r12͝13̜4 \ 8 < 1467699113 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my terminal just ignores colors set on the combiners < 1467699125 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1467699129 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is probably reasonable. < 1467699200 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "foobar" | zalgo | orenbow < 1467699204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​fͬͬo̷̝o̦̾b̹̓ä́̊ŗ̻ \  < 1467699606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't y'all going to reduce the byte count? < 1467699694 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't care, I just wanted to make it use IRC colors instead of vt100 colors. < 1467699722 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was preoccupied with the byte count of the output < 1467699749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I'm distracted adding more dingbats to my font < 1467699751 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. To be sure, moving it to IRC colors will reduce the byte count of the output. < 1467699762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1467699777 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average of 2-3 extra bytes per input instead of... 4-5 or so? < 1467699866 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And arguably better text handling, because wchar_t instead. < 1467699878 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467699883 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly a little silly, but w/e) < 1467699918 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467700019 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467700042 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467700054 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467700343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, bytes of the executable. < 1467700353 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, didn't care. < 1467700361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares about the output? < 1467700383 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you prefer I pessimize the output? :P < 1467700405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pessimizing is just optimizing in the opposite category. < 1467702220 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e1b8:4495:bc43:c1e9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467702787 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.144.230 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467704340 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Are you in a union? < 1467704797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ais523 joined the nethack devteam < 1467705243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1467705371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/4r77er/new_devteam_members_bhaak_nethackde_unnethack_and/ < 1467705936 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1467707183 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467707370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467709003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Superman canon contains "Pink Kryptonite" < 1467709010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which turns kryptonians gay < 1467709022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What it does to already-gay kryptonians is as-of-yet unspecified < 1467709114 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes them super gay < 1467709265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow polkadot kryptonite < 1467709466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised it wasn't rainbow < 1467709474 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that it didn't form triangular crystals < 1467709515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think triangles would be too offensive < 1467709542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? Really? < 1467709559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Keep in mind, superman is /stereotypically/ gay, AND becomes gayly attracted to the first man he sees < 1467709581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1467709639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1467709788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, one could say "Well that's just how gay superman is- are you criticizing how he chooses to live his life?" < 1467709819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just because he fits the stereotypes of gay doesn't mean it's bad- stereotypical gays are just as valid as non-stereotypical gays" < 1467711905 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467712620 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467712715 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467712886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1467714075 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e1b8:4495:bc43:c1e9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467714567 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :version numbering done right: xf86-video-intel-1:2.99.917+674+g9154dff-1 < 1467714723 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intel drivers have been getting lots of updates recently for some reason < 1467714895 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :epoch - upstream version - downstream revision - git revision - build revision? < 1467714916 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :epoch, in case someone decides to do a complete rewrite? < 1467714917 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know Arch's versioning scheme < 1467714922 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yeah, exactly < 1467714930 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: mostly for otherwise uncorrectable fixes < 1467714940 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Most things don't have huge versions like that < 1467714959 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1467715002 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example the linux package's version is just 4.6.3-1 < 1467715281 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@cl-394.sto-01.se.sixxs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467715281 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@cl-394.sto-01.se.sixxs.net QUIT :Changing host < 1467715281 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1467717286 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467718875 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467719432 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467720779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just learned about debt buyers < 1467720783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horribly inethical < 1467720795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think my conscience may have hung himself < 1467720805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I want to make a debt buying company. < 1467721084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1467721120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sword of Fire and Ice \ 3 \ Artifact -- Equipment \ Equipped creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from red and from blue. \ Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, Sword of Fire and Ice deals 2 damage to target creature or player and you draw a card. \ Equip {2} \ DST-R, MMA-M < 1467721221 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1467721233 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Omnath, Locus of Rage \ 3RRGG \ Legendary Creature -- Elemental \ 5/5 \ Landfall -- Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, put a 5/5 red and green Elemental creature token onto the battlefield. \ Whenever Omnath, Locus of Rage or another Elemental you control dies, Omnath deals 3 damage to target creature or player. \ BFZ-M < 1467721279 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1467721288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kessig Cagebreakers \ 4G \ Creature -- Human Rogue \ 3/4 \ Whenever Kessig Cagebreakers attacks, put a 2/2 green Wolf creature token onto the battlefield tapped and attacking for each creature card in your graveyard. \ ISD-R, C15-R < 1467721350 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new Omnath, changed? funny < 1467721351 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9527:cd0b:1d81:1e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467721361 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. you should create a debt selling company to unhang your conscience hth < 1467721376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I could do that < 1467721382 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you misspelled hpp's name < 1467721398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's my porthello, and my irc client responds to it too < 1467721424 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1467721433 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"porthello"? < 1467721436 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? porthello < 1467721439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :porthello? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467721441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was thinking that, in every batch, I would forgive one of the debts (chosen by either some optimization algorithm or just rolling a d9000) < 1467721452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, yeah, porthellos < 1467721458 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like a bordello? < 1467721459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A time-honored #esoteric tradition < 1467721469 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see! < 1467721472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't even a joke, this is a thing that we've been doing at least since I joined the channel < 1467721484 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a hellonas or helloren < 1467721486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like hell\oren\ or ahoily or helloon < 1467721488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1467721508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or helloerjan < 1467721519 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a French one too < 1467721534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that one time I said <256-digit hex string that appears to be a hash>chaf < 1467721537 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon_journas? < 1467721559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Never seen that one, but it's probably been used, and if it hasn't it should be used from now on < 1467721620 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9527:cd0b:1d81:1e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467721655 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UNUSUAL CHICKEN < 1467722068 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1467722216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, I think the French one is bon soerjan or something. And the Hungarian one is probably b_jó napot-s or something < 1467722231 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know these were called porthello < 1467722334 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467722691 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467723865 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1467724099 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: can I use the bonsoerjan? I like it < 1467724116 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: um, don't ask me, that one is for oerjan, not me < 1467724178 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for you it would be bon_journas I guess < 1467724204 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: yes < 1467724327 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :frozen fever is a 6 minutes short by pixar that's sold for 1.99$ or 5.99€ < 1467724359 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, the italian version costs 5.99€ < 1467724383 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so disgusted < 1467724471 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not from pixar but only from disney, whatever < 1467724636 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 256-*digit* hex string? That's pretty wide for a hash. < 1467724694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know, maybe it was 64? Yeah, it must've been 256-bit < 1467724716 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: must. avoid. collisions. < 1467724833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the Cincinnati Zoo shot and killed a gorilla that was actively a danger to a 3-year-old child < 1467724839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people questioned there decision < 1467724944 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*their < 1467725095 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how did a child get in there? < 1467725109 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it a human child? a gorilla child? < 1467725116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Human < 1467725141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: b_jonas: He climbed over a barrier and managed to get past numerous other measures (wires, etc.) before managing to fall 15 feet into a moat < 1467725191 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: And even if it was an issue that the child managed to get in, that doesn't really change the fact that there was a child actively in danger, and they had to shoot the gorilla or risk the life of the child < 1467725261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sure, it's normal that they shoot the gorilla, I'm just surprised that a child can get in < 1467725303 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because here you can observe the gorillas through these huge plexiglass windows iir < 1467725413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ydr, itym iirc < 1467725478 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I just can't type. < 1467725763 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: itym ijfumk < 1467725828 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467725844 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, what kind of drink is it that Faye just bought (in Questionable Content)? The bottle label look strange. Is it wine, beer, liquor, strong drink? < 1467726107 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467726436 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467726696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the nearest space canon terminal? < 1467727437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUESTION: Who was the Walrus? < 1467727653 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? walrus < 1467727661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :walrus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467727674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1467727676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the walrus < 1467727678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the walrus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467727805 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1467727807 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\_(ツ)_/¯? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467727837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn the walrus//In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI) < 1467727848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «the walrus» < 1467727910 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467728201 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary < 1467728202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wookipedia has an article on divorce < 1467728204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_/¯: No such file or directory \ Learned '¯\_(ツ)_/¯': ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary < 1467728230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat? < 1467728236 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1467728238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\_(ツ)_/¯? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467728254 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_ < 1467728255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467728257 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary < 1467728261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '¯\_(ツ)_/¯': ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary < 1467728624 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467728908 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467729437 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467729442 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic//OIC, OIC means Oh I see. < 1467729461 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card -C\b < 1467729466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown Unicode option letter '\'. < 1467729474 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card \-C\b < 1467729477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crack the Earth \ R \ Sorcery -- Arcane \ Each player sacrifices a permanent. \ BOK-C < 1467729488 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/random-card < 1467729490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' "$1" < 1467729527 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/("\x241)/-- $1/' bin/random-card < 1467729529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' "$1" < 1467729559 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1467729561 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467729571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe 's/("\x241)/-- $1/' bin/random-card < 1467729573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' -- "$1" < 1467729579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -i -pe 's/("\x241)/-- $1/' bin/random-card < 1467729582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467729589 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card -C\b < 1467729592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harrow \ 2G \ Instant \ As an additional cost to cast Harrow, sacrifice a land. \ Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library. \ TE-U, IN-C, ZEN-C, C14-C, DDE-C, DDP-C < 1467729685 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that Crack the Earth is an interesting one. If I rebuild my Spirit-Arcane tribal deck I should consider it. < 1467730680 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467731899 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467732102 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1467733081 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467733779 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467733832 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1467734101 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467735794 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, course not. why would computer programmers need a union? < 1467735831 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like our working conditions are dangerous < 1467736048 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for that matter, i'd probably get paid less if there was a union < 1467736060 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a union when a struct won't do < 1467736202 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: no puns < 1467736238 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :punning is bad unless it's type punning < 1467736912 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: In the past, we didn't technically need unions, we could just alias with a char array or memcpy from it. It's only in more modern times when we actually need unions to provide a constexpr-able implementation to sum types like optional < 1467738588 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467738711 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467738760 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dredge Ship \ UU \ Creature -- Ship \ U, sacrifice Dredge Ship: Search your library for an Island and place it on the battlefield tapped. \ 2/2 \ < 1467738876 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467738888 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: would that be like an explorer ship? < 1467738897 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding and conquering new isladns < 1467738970 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's a Dredger ship: it dredges up sand and piles it to make an aritfical island < 1467738981 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh! < 1467738987 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the Chinese have been doing lately < 1467738996 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but in that case why would you have to sacrifice it? < 1467739015 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, good point. < 1467739027 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expedition Ship < 1467739066 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sacrifice it because they were killed by the natives < 1467739110 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, I have the feeling that blue shouldn't be able to do this so cheaply < 1467739119 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Silkwing Scout < 1467739126 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's very off-color to them < 1467739135 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1467739147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silkwing Scout \ 2U \ Creature -- Faerie Scout \ 2/1 \ Flying \ {G}, Sacrifice Silkwing Scout: Search your library for a basic land card and put that card onto the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library. \ DIS-C < 1467739147 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Embodiment of Spring < 1467739151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Embodiment of Spring \ U \ Creature -- Elemental \ 0/3 \ {1}{G}, {T}, Sacrifice Embodiment of Spring: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. \ KTK-C < 1467739156 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Dreamscape Artist < 1467739158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dreamscape Artist \ 1U \ Creature -- Human Spellshaper \ 1/1 \ {2}{U}, {T}, Discard a card, Sacrifice a land: Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library. \ PLC-C < 1467739267 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of cards just say land or basic land. it seems rarer to see things like 'search for a Mountain' 'sacrifice a Forest' < 1467739293 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's true, but a few restrict to a specific land type for power reasons < 1467739351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Utopia Sprawl is an example, compare it to Wild Growth < 1467739369 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is even more important outside of green < 1467739415 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: indeed < 1467739753 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... i wonder whether a good deck could be made using only cards that cose one mana? < 1467739761 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and lands) < 1467739829 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in what sort of format or metagame? < 1467739906 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard i guess? < 1467739959 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467739990 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want to go for a quick game because with only 1 mana cards you'd go through your library very quickly < 1467740021 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I don't think so < 1467740044 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: if you want such a deck, I'd think of a combo deck rather, which is less likely to work in standard this way < 1467740117 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it can be done < 1467740135 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called bant hexproof < 1467740368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's what employers want you to think hth < 1467740375 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1467740425 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you have an option of joining a union? < 1467740455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so? < 1467740461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: congrais523 < 1467740477 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm well it's my understanding that unions tend to move people's pay toward the average. since mine is above the average I don't want that. < 1467740582 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i defiantly don't want to pay union dues < 1467740607 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't a typo < 1467740911 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467741045 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467741060 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467741100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it moved the average up? < 1467741111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the average, anyway? Maybe you're misled about the average? < 1467741165 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467741549 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the average would include people who are far less competent than me < 1467741559 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467741586 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to be lumped in with every copypasta slinger < 1467741616 0 :Guest53854!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467741623 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467741925 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, in general I have a bad impression of unions because they have ruined Toronto < 1467741979 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still remember when the garbage people struck and the city smelled of rotting food for weeks < 1467742008 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even now the construction unions are sucking our municipal funds dry < 1467742024 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the garbage people went on strike here on the UK the government hired temp workers to do the garbage collection < 1467742032 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently they were both cheaper and faser than the actual official garbage collectors < 1467742034 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*faster < 1467742154 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: public sector unions suck < 1467742159 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :private sector unions are ok usually < 1467742172 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem with public sector unions is they have like nothing to lose < 1467742179 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't drive a government out of business < 1467742381 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467742664 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Livewire Lash < 1467742676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Livewire Lash \ 2 \ Artifact -- Equipment \ Equipped creature gets +2/+0 and has "Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell, this creature deals 2 damage to target creature or player." \ Equip {2} \ SOM-R < 1467742678 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds dangerous < 1467742694 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need that card < 1467742704 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1467742708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :target of a SPELL! < 1467742712 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not target of a spell or ability < 1467742714 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1467742721 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't that stupid < 1467743048 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467743096 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-toyldblkirvwasbn JOIN :#esoteric < 1467743546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verdict of the SECOHE: Islam is not really "the" religion of peace- many Muslims are peaceful, but that isn't because of their religion, it's because they weren't douchebags to begin with; similarly, violent Muslims would probably be violent anyway, but Islam gives them a more clear way to channel it. The peace- and the violence- comes from the people, not from the religion < 1467744191 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467744418 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eidogo.com/#A30WVDXD enjoy :P < 1467744457 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1467745221 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I redesigned http://www.orenwatson.be/allfiles.htm to cope with directories! now not everything has to be in /var/www/html < 1467745306 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone on ##math mentioned http://euclidthegame.com/ ... I think some people here might enjoy it (constructive geometry) < 1467745374 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467745645 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467745994 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467746014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: This is the best thing ever < 1467746037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I've always wanted to learn c/se, but it seemed like the most boring thing I could possibly do, so I didn't < 1467746078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think many programmers are overpaid compared to the value they provide to society, but underpaid compared to the value they provide to their employers. < 1467746109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that goes for me right now. Probably for you. Who knows. < 1467746418 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467746423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh. < 1467746665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ansi.ans is a rather terrifying filename < 1467747251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467747927 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sna.isna < 1467748372 0 :Guest53854!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467749525 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use .ans to mean a file with ansi color escapes in it < 1467749873 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467749915 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467749984 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467750118 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are the logos for SQLite and Apache basically the same? < 1467750697 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to donate to SGDQ! < 1467750816 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467751990 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467752649 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob = waste of bandwidth, hmm? < 1467752678 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wob < 1467752711 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, wob as in http://www.xkcd.com/148/ because it's through a web-based irc client < 1467752717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467752782 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467752804 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467752869 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deadgentlemen/the-gamers-episode-1?ref=project_link :o < 1467753197 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467754397 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish tmux would detect somehow that there's another tmux inside it and seamlessly integrate < 1467754432 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hmm.... that would be interesting, but I think it should be optional < 1467754455 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe there would be a button like ctrl-b alt-i that integrates < 1467754473 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: right, or a configuration option or command-line switch or something < 1467754484 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that would be much easier than it automatically detecting itself < 1467754506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? detecting automatically isn't actually difficult < 1467754566 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need an option and command for actually integrating IF it detects < 1467754617 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could even integrate it in some of those crazy tabbed terminal emulators people use, with a proper protocol. < 1467754730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see, it would send a quick recognition string when it starts up < 1467754747 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes < 1467755887 0 :digitalc1ld!?@? NICK :digitalcold < 1467756276 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1467758166 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467758200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman//mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare. < 1467758403 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467758560 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1467758570 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should invent something, too < 1467758671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's usually Taneb who invents things here < 1467758677 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful not to invent the same things as he did < 1467758713 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care! < 1467758725 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at best i am like schönfinkel < 1467759290 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1467759428 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467759718 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i nvented the rubblesort < 1467759824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a bubblesort but instead of iterating over the array you do them in a random order each pass < 1467759893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes the rubblesort immune to malicious input while retaining the bubblesort's raw performance < 1467760126 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467760196 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. < 1467760240 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tftwewjgrgfvtofo JOIN :#esoteric < 1467760683 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467760993 0 :moon-moon!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/\\\/\\/\ < 1467761265 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467761267 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon-mhelloon! < 1467761380 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1467763219 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467763296 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467763541 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467764033 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467764134 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467764143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :php//php is the PigeonHole Principle < 1467764214 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon soily < 1467764233 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467764304 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goeth the postal shrike? < 1467764515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467764578 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan < 1467764634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :queventopinga < 1467764673 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467764696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaixoily < 1467764701 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :queven topinga? < 1467764712 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean topanga? topanga matthews? < 1467764718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1467764730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know topanga matthews, sorry. < 1467764754 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :topanga lawrence? < 1467764765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that would be the premarital topanga) < 1467764783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1467764798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't usually watch tv, for a start. < 1467764830 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure sure. for a second, you don't watch american tv. < 1467764846 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a third, you're antediluvian. < 1467764859 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we can always pretend you understand these things < 1467764868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure there's that much difference as far as soaps are considered. < 1467764904 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy meets world would not be considered particularly soapy hth < 1467764905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i hear norway has produced more soaps after i stopped watching. < 1467764913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i wouldn't know, would i? < 1467764926 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tdh < 1467764945 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1467764959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1467765489 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? porthello < 1467765495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :porthello? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467765676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thé < 1467765679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thé is an oddly-spelled hot beverage popular in the Commonwealth. < 1467765700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn porthello/Hellonfused one. Porthellos are the standard greeting format in #esoteric. Best enjoyed with some thé or caffè and a fternooner. < 1467765704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «porthello» < 1467765805 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! the strike is crippling my chi. < 1467765814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a strike? < 1467765816 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1467765826 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a lockout. complete nonsense. < 1467765853 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :been watching any sgdq? < 1467765866 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some Games Done Quick? < 1467765872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure the OQLF mandates strikes to keep the cultural connection. < 1467765900 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :summer < 1467765911 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take that as a no < 1467765977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you, yourself, on strike? < 1467765993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just the general environment of nothing working < 1467766050 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are there any hilites from this year? < 1467766091 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it's just Summer. praise be unto the Orange Cone. < 1467766155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1467766172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norway, strikes are usually in late spring. < 1467766205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's when most (all?) tariff agreements are renegotiated. < 1467766212 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i missed a blindfold run of castlevania sotn < 1467766242 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's a tas on saturday of smb 1,2, and 3 all simultaneously from the same input sequence < 1467766250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does wonders for the exam period when teachers are involved. < 1467766267 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: super meat boy in half an hour < 1467766310 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467766329 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: blind kaizo smm race on friday that i will have to miss at work :( < 1467766345 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(team races are so fun to watch) < 1467766363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apropos kaizo, i think boily missed my porthello. < 1467766428 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes apparently < 1467766537 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed it >_>'... < 1467766550 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELKOen. < 1467766610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION briefly ponders the porthello singularity, but realizes making them _totally_ impenetrable is probably too easy.
< 1467766749 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467766960 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467766993 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467767070 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467767103 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go home so not to miss the smb run < 1467767149 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1467767162 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the blindfolded SOTN too, will have to watch it tomorrow < 1467767231 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467767887 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467768012 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467768407 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467768858 0 :atehwa_!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467769057 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467769111 0 :atehwa_!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467769115 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@198.45.192.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467769155 0 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467769456 0 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467769491 0 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467769711 0 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467769797 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467769811 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PART #esoteric : < 1467769822 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467770035 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1467770041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1467770142 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467770144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1467770149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :args \ fruit \ sh \ spline \ spout \ tempcmd \ testcmd \ tmp_jonas < 1467770164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/slashlearn < 1467770165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb «$key»" < 1467770197 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467770201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1467770203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1467770241 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1467770253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/learn//>.wisdom.topic./>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")"/ < 1467770254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `>' < 1467770257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1467770281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/learn//s,>.wisdom.topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")", < 1467770282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/learn//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1467770290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1467770323 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/learn//s,[>].wisdom.topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")", < 1467770324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/learn//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1467770336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is wrong. < 1467770481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's,[>].wisdom.topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")",' bin/learn < 1467770483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1467770483 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the banksters have taken over wall street? < 1467770523 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467770535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's,[>].wisdom.topic.,>"\$(echo-p "wisdom/\$topic")",' bin/learn < 1467770536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1467770548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467770557 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467770558 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/learn//s,[>].wisdom..topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")", < 1467770561 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/learn//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1467770581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn te/sting is important. < 1467770585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'te/sting': te/sting is important. < 1467770588 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the sun is too hot? < 1467770592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? te/sting < 1467770594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :te/sting is important. < 1467770602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: i forgot a character in my sed pattern. < 1467770610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget te/sting < 1467770613 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh ok < 1467770614 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? te < 1467770615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1467770616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :te? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467770626 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/te < 1467770627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/te: No such file or directory < 1467770642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: `forget cleans up parent directories < 1467770652 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/forget < 1467770653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ rm-p "wisdom/$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z)" \ echo "Forget what?" < 1467770666 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking "Forget what?" was an error message. < 1467770673 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum . replicate 10 $ 0.1 < 1467770674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just an inside joke. < 1467770675 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.9999999999999999 < 1467770702 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> grain < 1467770703 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘grain’ < 1467770943 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467771034 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467771402 0 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1467771408 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467771511 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1467771564 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fJFtYlv544n7DdqGBDVT1TRRE2HxW0JKH2blUbnmJyQtgKrexGHVrRuO6Sv1Q1oO2uPGaR0lkucpNvvew8B5euD95gI7sIahwt2gTSvAgr9ElLCHlhM < 1467771627 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let mid x y z = min (max x y) (max (min x y) z) in [mid 1 2 3, mid 1 3 2, mid 2 1 3, mid 2 3 1, mid 3 1 2, mid 3 2 1] < 1467771628 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,2,2,2,2,2] < 1467771668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let mid x y z = sort [x,y,z} !! 1 in [mid 1 2 3, mid 1 3 2, mid 2 1 3, mid 2 3 1, mid 3 1 2, mid 3 2 1] < 1467771670 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:28: parse error on input ‘}’ < 1467771673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1467771683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let mid x y z = sort [x,y,z] !! 1 in [mid 1 2 3, mid 1 3 2, mid 2 1 3, mid 2 3 1, mid 3 1 2, mid 3 2 1] < 1467771684 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,2,2,2,2,2] < 1467771688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid keyboard < 1467771898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the walrus < 1467771901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI) < 1467771921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd the walrus//s,.,, < 1467771924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/the walrus//In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI) < 1467771940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd the walrus//s,$,., < 1467771943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/the walrus//In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI). < 1467772048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas i fixed `learn so it creates parent directories like the other versions. < 1467772048 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467772295 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467772332 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467772359 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: EXSANGUINE CHICKEN < 1467773253 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@198.45.192.130 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467773312 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467773454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467773460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote from Wikipedia: This is an allusion to the Ray Bradbury novel Fahrenheit 451 and possibly the film thereof, 451 °F (233 °C) being equivalent to 232 Centigrade. < 1467773477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, 233 and 232 are really the same number < 1467773513 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on if you round up or down. < 1467773526 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :451F is 232.778C. < 1467773742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least it continues the tradition of messing up the numbers < 1467773824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc the temperature that the book was supposed to be named after is 451 °C) < 1467773851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the old < 1467773856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467773867 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (In reality, scientists place the autoignition temperature of paper anywhere from high 440 degrees Fahrenheit to some 30 degrees hotter, depending on the study and type of paper.) < 1467773868 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:60: parse error on input ‘of’ < 1467773882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, it's roughly 451 F, though studies put it from 440 to... more < 1467773886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, lifthrasiir < 1467773890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467773895 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I'm running out of good prefix-quotation punctuation < 1467773904 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :| I guess this was also in use < 1467773913 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or it isn't? < 1467773914 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockingly, it seems not < 1467773922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1467773922 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1467773926 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467773929 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot was [ < 1467773930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Really, it's not a meddling issue so much as a why-the-fuck-did-a-SF-writer-use-Fahrenheit issue < 1467773934 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was | < 1467773941 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I want to write a method that, given a bunch of symbols labeled with nonnegative floating point numbers, selects a random symbol, with each symbol's probability being proportional to the number. < 1467773943 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should learn to stick to it < 1467773948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I voe that all quote prefixes from now on be $Q((U$& < 1467773967 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what sort of algorithm to use. < 1467773992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I don't know, but I have the sneaking feeling godel is going to fuck this up somehow. I would be impressed, but not surprised < 1467773996 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The algorithm doesn't have to be exact by any means. But it also shouldn't be something that crashes. < 1467774011 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: this is definitely computable. < 1467774024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That's what we always think < 1467774118 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, the symbols are bytes. There are always exactly 256 of them. < 1467774244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: sum the probabilities for a symbol and the previous ones. then make a table, select a random number from 0 to the total sum, and do binary search. < 1467774280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to divide the probabilities by the total sum to make it 1. < 1467774328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this is assuming you'll use the same probabilities for several samplings. < 1467774359 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@198.45.192.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467774364 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. According to the documentation... < 1467774377 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference between cumsum and cumsumi is that cumsum is in-place and cumsumi is not. < 1467774386 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference between div and divi is that divi is in-place and div is not. < 1467774394 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone notice something odd there? < 1467774400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think. < 1467774423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch the first is switched. < 1467774426 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to trust the documentation even though it seems like it can't possibly be right. < 1467774430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first pair < 1467774460 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish they'd just used names like "cumSumInPlace" and "divInPlace". < 1467774524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cumulative sum sounds like the thing, anyway < 1467774711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming that's like haskell scanl1 (+)) < 1467774866 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467775188 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,2,2,2,2,2] < 1467775190 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,26,28,30,32,34] < 1467775216 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467775238 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1467775252 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467775431 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467775797 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467779753 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1467780173 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467782149 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank goodness, I'm not the only one who noticed that Michelangelo had no idea what a woman looks like < 1467782353 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1467782416 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was looking at a "3d interactive panorama" of the sistine chapel and noticed that Eve was looking a little.. manly) < 1467782929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raphael on the other hand, appears to know what women look like < 1467783814 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467784062 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467784744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467784932 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467785675 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :michelangelo was gay < 1467786101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -P '(.)\1{2}' /usr/share/dict/words < 1467786164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /usr/share/dict/words: No such file or directory < 1467786232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1467786241 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no grep -E < 1467786334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -P '(.)\1{2}' share/dict-words < 1467786342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KKK's \ WWW's < 1467786351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why {2} rather than \1? < 1467786472 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1467786484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iridescent Drake \ 3U \ Creature -- Drake \ 2/2 \ Flying \ When Iridescent Drake enters the battlefield, put target Aura card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control attached to Iridescent Drake. \ UD-U < 1467786511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467787005 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1467789190 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@198.45.192.130 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467789272 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1467790655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467791041 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467791117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Genocide is... interesting < 1467791121 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Issues" < 1467791307 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467791457 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare they label things as issues < 1467791469 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so disrespectful < 1467791491 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467791611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is a matter of honor with me to be absolutely clean and unequivocal in relation to anti-Semitism" -- Friedrich Nietzsche < 1467791626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's just weird word choice < 1467791640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes it sound like it's a debate xD < 1467791659 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467792987 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467793207 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467793351 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467793863 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467794027 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg < 1467794545 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467794591 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467796557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1467796840 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467797007 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467797528 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467797997 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tomsarazac.com/tom/opinions/xterm-problems.html good read < 1467800041 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467800098 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467800424 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467800907 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467801876 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1467801912 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I read "xterms" as "teminal emulators supposed to be compatible with xterm"? < 1467801928 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467801933 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no, looks like forks of xterm < 1467802192 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467802321 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of terminal emulators, http://www.leonerd.org.uk/hacks/fixterms/ < 1467802947 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I actually don't completely like that proposal. Some of it makes sense, but some of it should be optional and active only when an app requests that mode with an escape sequence and the user allows it: I like the fact that c-M, c-J, c-?, c-H, c-I can be entered in two ways, and especially like the fact that space can be entered as shift-space. < 1467803019 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, fair < 1467803108 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the proposal seems half-done, because it doesn't mention what should happen with some of the control-numbers, which are sometimes mapped so that c-3 c-4 c-5 c-7 are an alias of c-\ c-[ c-] c-_ in some order < 1467803547 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nor does it seem to mention the key codes starting with "\eO", despite that those matter for the timing info too.) < 1467803632 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : that wasn't a good read... there is a reasonable complaint in there but wading through the insults was tiresome < 1467804251 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467804611 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467804780 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467804798 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467804860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Feb1712.jpg is my new favorite 1712 swedish calendar < 1467805096 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467805229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9/2932 never forget < 1467805330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, it's annoying when you look for something with EXACT times and they don't include seconds < 1467805531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000212400 never forget < 1467805534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1467805539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I a bad person yet? < 1467805722 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1467805753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Darn < 1467806020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Where could I go that the people there would be offended, but only a couple could figure out that they should be, and would have a hard time explaining it to everyone else? < 1467806051 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ground zero < 1467806109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I mean in terms of an IRC channel < 1467806135 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1467806137 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1467806172 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: probably anywhere if you make an obscure enough joke < 1467806185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: True < 1467806190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm going to find if the GOP has an IRC < 1467806199 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an obscure and hard to explain one that is < 1467806218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Unix timestamps < 1467806225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Does that qualify? < 1467806349 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the hard part is making the joke hard to _explain_, not just hard to recognize < 1467806559 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've noticed a program look for ~/.terminfo < 1467806710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, I'm using the message *nix.1000212400<3 < 1467806719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody who gets it has earned my eternal respect < 1467806726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(outside of programmer circles) < 1467806903 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467807040 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltab: yes, that's the directory where programs using terminfo databases look for user (not system) terminfo description files, unless the program is set[gu]id or you set the TERMINFO env-var. See the terminfo(5) manual from ncurses. < 1467807148 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467807180 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feminists are easy to insult < 1467808281 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DIALECT CHICKEN < 1467809485 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467809683 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467810913 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467811717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the easiest way to fuck with the rules of mohammed-drawing? < 1467811759 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467812046 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:21ff:c773:b936:2ad9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467812094 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1467812246 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I seem to be missing something with xkcd garden < 1467812305 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:21ff:c773:b936:2ad9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467812779 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunchtime < 1467813588 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467813755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That moment when Safety Dance unexpectedly starts playing in the background < 1467813852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the future, everyone will have brain implants that improve our understandings of music theory and composition and gives us minor telepathic powers for song syncronization < 1467814048 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://vimeo.com/161783929/dba6a42ad3 knuth is so cute < 1467814053 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467814379 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467814645 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467815951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467816232 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1043 < 1467816298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1043: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1467816815 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467819281 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a0:638d:7679:a1c0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467819559 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a0:638d:7679:a1c0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467821657 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467821913 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467824596 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that he wants to take the xterm developers and "bend them over and have at it" could be taken in multiple ways. < 1467824770 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467825139 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b8ec:f175:9395:123f JOIN :#esoteric < 1467825227 0 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467825237 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:fc7:3cf6:89cc:568f:1c7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467826538 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467826803 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467827659 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467830051 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think i've ever used an xterm-based terminal < 1467830567 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1467831060 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1467831069 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467832038 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467833861 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: a label can only be part of a statement and a declaration is not a statement < 1467833863 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE THIS < 1467833897 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most idiotic limitation they could come up with < 1467833912 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467833922 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the single most pointless stupid dumb limitation in the whole history of programming languages < 1467834144 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fg < 1467834148 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong windo < 1467834150 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1467834430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put a ; after all labels < 1467834453 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this works unless you're in a one line if statement < 1467834747 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whyyyyy < 1467834752 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i have to do this < 1467834762 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this stupid rule there in the first place < 1467834955 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally, you had declarations at the start of a function, and statements after that. mixing them at all was an extension to c90, adopted only in c99 < 1467834975 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been 40 years since "originally" < 1467834982 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only 26 < 1467834993 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"only" < 1467835166 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '#include \nint main(){printf("hello\\n");int i=30;printf("this won'\''t work\\n");}' | gcc -xc -otest - < 1467835193 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467835215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '#include \nint main(){printf("hello\\n");int i=30;printf("this won'\''t work\\n");}' | gcc -std=c90 -xc -otest - < 1467835247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467835249 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelated: how do i get a readable fd from a fd opened with O_PATH ? < 1467835256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467835316 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '#include \nint main(){printf("hello\\n");int i=30;printf("this won'\''t work\\n");}' | gcc -std=c90 -pedantic -xc -otest - < 1467835336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​: In function ‘main’: \ :2:30: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code [-pedantic] < 1467835342 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1467835346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Why write to the root directory rather than to tmp/? < 1467835354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you're putting it in hg history. < 1467835357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty scow move if you ask me. < 1467835381 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1467835384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp. < 1467835397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits scow < 1467835408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1467835420 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprits < 1467835422 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cons < 1467835426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1467835428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cons? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467835441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cwlprits < 1467835443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cwlprits? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467835468 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. they then live on sunlight and grass. < 1467835474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'con': cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. they then live on sunlight and grass. < 1467835487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1467835503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I know is that it doesn't live up to the guidelines. < 1467835510 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lisp was mentioned recently < 1467835531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that wisdom entry appears to have no redeeming value. < 1467835543 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case, feel free to alter/remove it < 1467835545 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are guidelines? < 1467835545 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I could just be missing it. < 1467835561 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. For example the guideline that says that you capitalize sentences. < 1467835575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can remove it, but maybe I'm missing something. < 1467835577 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? guidelines < 1467835579 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sentence < 1467835579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guidelines? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467835581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sentence? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467835611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. They then live on sunlight and grass, until they are finally removed from existence. < 1467835614 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must capitalize SENTENCES whenever it appears in a wisdom entry < 1467835615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'con': Cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. They then live on sunlight and grass, until they are finally removed from existence. < 1467835628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1467835644 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know lisp < 1467835661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less. < 1467835696 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cons is the function that takes two arguments and makes a 2-tuple of them < 1467835721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that. < 1467835740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke < 1467835764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the joke? < 1467835815 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAA wai don tyu gedit? < 1467835859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's funny? < 1467835879 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cons < 1467835882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. They then live on sunlight and grass, until they are finally removed from existence. < 1467835884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's funny < 1467835902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which part? < 1467835905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunlight and grass? < 1467835921 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagining the cons as cute little bunnies or somehting < 1467835929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny < 1467835962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are mistaken hth < 1467835990 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't need to hide the hats? < 1467836007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, the other day a person insisted that the joke at the top of http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/bignumbers.html isn't funny. < 1467836018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't understand that. It's a good joke. < 1467836126 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it made me laugh. < 1467836147 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467836181 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cons? < 1467836195 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the numbers < 1467836245 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about the cons... certainly didn't make me laugh < 1467836278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I agree. < 1467836428 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467836434 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set out to make a program in that goes through each counting number, and finds the position of that number's least signifigant binary 1 digit. < 1467836458 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"counting number"... natural number? < 1467836461 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for some reason I'm not able to actually accomplush that? < 1467836472 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: it won't terminate on 0 hth < 1467836474 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baby number? Froth number? < 1467836513 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counting numbers ar enatural numbers, sure. < 1467836514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: A counting number is a number used by Count von Count. < 1467836521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He starts counting at 1, so 0 is no problem. < 1467836565 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I meant the set that starts with 1. < 1467836613 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((1:) . (>>= \x -> [x + 1, 1])) < 1467836615 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2... < 1467836690 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, what language is that program? < 1467836712 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess lambda calculus? < 1467836714 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (concat . transpose . (repeat 1 :) . return . fmap succ) -- roughly the same with a more versatile dictionary < 1467836716 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2... < 1467836764 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot speaks Haskell < 1467836778 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, unfortunately, don't. < 1467836785 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case you didn't specify a programming language. < 1467836822 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for an algorithm, not code. :p < 1467836854 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(arguably I'm cheating because I'm using the fact that the ruler function returns the results of the ruler function, plus one, interleaved with ones. < 1467836858 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1467836867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you want the algorithm specified? < 1467836905 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I'm trying to make a ruler function to begin with, actually. < 1467836932 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I forgot that just plugging in a name like that would probably get me a result on Wikipedia. < 1467836980 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix((1:).(>>=(:[1]).succ) < 1467836981 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:26: < 1467836982 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1467836999 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix((1:).(>>=(:[1]).succ)) < 1467837001 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2... < 1467837220 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this particular case, I'm currently trying to use Smilebasic, but the intent is to emit beeps with frequencies proportional to the result of the ruler function for the value of the time passed since the program began. < 1467837229 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I figure that would sound somewhat muisical. < 1467837230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t popCount < 1467837231 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bits a => a -> Int < 1467837247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include "stdio.h" < 1467837247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int f(int x){printf("%d",x);g(x-1);} < 1467837247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int g(int y){int x;for(x=0;x<=y;x++)f(x);} < 1467837248 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(){g(6);} < 1467837256 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467837293 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map(succ.popCount.pred.ap(.&.)negate)[1..] < 1467837294 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2... < 1467837362 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm mine has a base case of 0 but otherwise seems correct < 1467837385 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0102010301020104010201030102010501020103010201040102010301020106010201030102010401020103010201050102010301020104010201030102010 < 1467837413 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so change the x=0 to x=1 < 1467837420 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1467837450 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, then i just need to be able to pass infinity into g() < 1467837490 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or replace it by for(int x=1;;x++)f(x); < 1467837504 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right in the main loop < 1467837526 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, "it" being the contents of the main function < 1467837529 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. < 1467837584 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: does my mutual recursive function help or does SmileBasic not support recursion < 1467837624 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It supports recursion. Thanks, I hadn't thought to use functions for this. < 1467837638 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go see if I can translate it. < 1467837679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467837680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467837682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467837682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467837683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467837691 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if the C version can get stuffed into one line, it migth work as a bytebeat program. < 1467837700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1467837708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1467837712 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this is ridiculous if you know that x86 (since the 486) have a builtin ruler function (more precisely, a function that can find the "next" set bit to the left or the right in a register, given a startin position) < 1467837726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467837743 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, unbalanced parenthesis. I'll surely hear about it from oerjan, later. ) < 1467837774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ < 1467837796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⟅ < 1467837807 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I should switch to using x86 assambly then? < 1467837811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode ⟅ < 1467837842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467837843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote//Quotes are just elements of the quantum dilapidated bogosphere. See qdb. < 1467837844 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⸨ < 1467837850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition//composition is where you take morphisms such as Phantom and Hoover from the Pha category and combine them together: Hoover ∘ Phantom. < 1467837850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remorse//.--. . --- .--. .-.. . / .-- .. - .... / -. --- / .-. . -- --- .-. ... . / .. -. ... .. ... - / --- -. / ... .- -.-- .. -. --. / . ...- . .-. -.-- - .... .. -. --. / .. -. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . --..-- / -... ..- - / --- -. .-.. -.-- / --- -. -.-. . .-.-.- < 1467837852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+27C5 LEFT S-SHAPED BAG DELIMITER] < 1467837918 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎰ < 1467837920 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎱ < 1467837949 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎧ < 1467837954 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎨ < 1467837956 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎩ < 1467838000 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc has __builtin_ctz() to count trailing zeros < 1467838035 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah but that won't work above 64 < 1467838088 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although we'd never actually witness its failure < 1467838099 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1467838107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect it to work for int128_t < 1467838116 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know :P < 1467838187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't you witness failure about 64? < 1467838275 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the program would have to run until it gets there < 1467838296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with that? < 1467838311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be dead < 1467838346 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^64 seconds is much longer than anyone can expect to live < 1467838380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, seconds? < 1467838414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must've missed something about seconds. < 1467838434 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. the program is emitting beeps with frequency proportional to the ruler function of the time passed since it was started < 1467838447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep < 1467838474 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467838503 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boop bap boop beep boop bap boop bip boop bap boop beep boop bap boop < 1467838541 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? frequency proportional to the ruler function < 1467838710 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellwob_jonas! < 1467838985 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to translate the C code into Basic, currently getting a stack overfow error. < 1467839025 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I expect to eventually get, but before that ti's a strong of all zeroes. < 1467839830 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Smilebasic is dumb when ti comes to using loops withing a recursive function? < 1467839968 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: what code? < 1467839974 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what dialect of basic? < 1467839989 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\'s code. < 1467839997 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:34:15] <\oren\> #include "stdio.h" < 1467839997 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:34:15] <\oren\> int f(int x){printf("%d",x);g(x-1);} < 1467839997 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:34:15] <\oren\> int g(int y){int x;for(x=0;x<=y;x++)f(x);} < 1467839997 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:34:15] <\oren\> int main(){g(6);} < 1467840024 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this one: http://smilebasic.com/ < 1467840047 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't use x86 stuff with it since it's for a portable game consol.e < 1467840050 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*console < 1467840109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly you need to write an x86 emulator first... :P < 1467840109 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's just the language I was playing with most recently. IBNIZ or bytebeat would work too. < 1467840127 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, when PayPal says the customer service phone number has the service hours are "8.00 and 4.30 GMT Monday to Friday", does that mean they are intervals between 08:00 UTC and 04:30 UTC when the start of the interval falls on Monday to Friday? Or intervals between 08:00 and 16:30 UTC on Monday to Friday? < 1467840127 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something else entirely? < 1467840140 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bytebeat being a one-line C program that can run on something like http://wurstcaptures.untergrund.net/music/ < 1467840185 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( you have to call at precisely those times ) < 1467840395 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: apart from how it's impossible to call at precisely a given time, it says specifically "Our Service Hours" < 1467840432 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: and can you show us your Basic translation? < 1467840470 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Poland PayPal phone number: 00 353 1 436 9001; 08:00 - 16:30 GMT Monday - Friday' < 1467840503 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I see. That seems clearer. < 1467840503 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :random, unaffiliated page, cross-check with another source < 1467840522 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, the phone number *is* here, I will use that < 1467840527 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least it's clearly a range in that version. < 1467840533 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can reasonably be different in different countries < 1467840553 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they could even have different service hours for different combinations of countries and/or languages < 1467840601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do, apparently < 1467840621 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps they've combined several "small" countries and are handling them from the same call center < 1467840638 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(using GMT is a bit odd, imho) < 1467840639 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes < 1467840659 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? using GMT totally makes sense < 1467840664 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can use paypal from different timezones < 1467840889 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they list local times for many other countries < 1467841400 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: this seems like a strange an powerful dialect of Basic < 1467841435 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange in the sense that it has strange syntax for constructs that already have different syntax in other Basics < 1467841524 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: anyway, I'd like to see your translation < 1467841580 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and powerful in the sense that it has a lot of useful builtins that other basics don't have < 1467841684 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what numeric type(s) this has < 1467841770 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This product uses double-precision real-type numbers or integers to represent values internally." -- they could be a bit more concrete than that... < 1467841891 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I'm jut not familiar with enough dialects of basic < 1467842184 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467843177 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, ARM has an instruction for counting leading zeros (since v5?)... and one for reversing bits... (since v6?) < 1467843297 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sure, ARM actually has more choices of vector instructions and strange integer operations (including simd ones) on general registers than x86 before AVX2, possibly even than x86 before AVX512 < 1467843352 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, although the x86 instruction set is powerful enough for most practical programs, the ARM ones are more orthogonal and have a lot of sort of redundant instructions < 1467843430 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467843434 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mind you, x86 has had instruction for counting leading zeros in a general register since way back in 386, and had a new (better) instruction for that in future versions too, and also has a general register big reverse instruction in some recent instruction set extension < 1467843465 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the leading zero count is actually very useful (bit reverse comes up much less often) < 1467843528 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason I found this is that together they can count trailing zeros, which is essentially the ruler function < 1467843558 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, bit reverse has very few applications, and enough efficient ways to emulate from other instructions that it doesn't seem to be too useful an addition, although it's sort of borderline < 1467843604 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: x86 has both count leading and count trailing zeros functions < 1467843609 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as instructions < 1467843631 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe bit reversal is good for indexing into the results of medium-sized FFTs. < 1467843648 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: see above. < 1467843691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do more, actually; bsf and bsr find the next/previous set bit in a word from a starting index. < 1467843715 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467843732 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, but that doesn't add too much more power (together with other instructions that is) < 1467843756 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was more powerful in the 90s when they were introduced :P < 1467843908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there's the very CISCy bt (bit test) instruction... it's harmless enough on registers... used on memory, it actually supports larger offsets than 32 (or 64) < 1467843949 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so useful for indexing bit vectors < 1467843960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the 386 bit search instructions are ugly CISCy too < 1467844029 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sure, a lot of the x86 things made much more sense in the past < 1467844073 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, somehow I thought this was one of the 486 additions. not that it matters much these days < 1467844081 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a very few cases the CISCy design of x86 is so obsolate that new features already don't make sense when they were introduced, but usually they only don't make sense half a decade later < 1467844108 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? obsolate < 1467844111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obsolate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467844117 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what was 486 addition in particular? don't believe the details I say without checking < 1467844143 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I misspell or misuse that word? < 1467844164 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_instruction_listings#Added_with_80486 < 1467844169 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: "obsolete" < 1467844179 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the "late" in there made it look almost intentional < 1467844184 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1467844189 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC the big 486 ISA additions were atomics. < 1467844200 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say it because of "late" < 1467844210 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bswap is nice too < 1467844226 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just seems like a weak vowel do I don't remember the spelling < 1467844231 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, definitely < 1467844251 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that's more a nicety. The atomics are big because they introduce functionality that fundamentally wasn't there before. < 1467844270 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :While you could do bswap yourself, just not as nicely. < 1467844345 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :486 also added SMM to the mainline processors... another GREAT design decision. < 1467844389 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, isn't 486 the first generation that has a variant with the x87 built-in as opposed to a separate chip? < 1467844400 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467844443 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that comes with performance advantage < 1467844464 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the last generation which offered a split version (486SX and 487 coprocessor... I've read that early 487 were actually full-blown 486 with some fuse blown) < 1467844498 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know it had a split version < 1467844498 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1467844528 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense that it was the last generation with a split version, because the x87 was always present on the pentium, right? < 1467844578 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was the first version that made the x87 synchronization WAIT instruction redundant? < 1467844580 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. and then they started adding to it... MMX.... etc. < 1467844592 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWAIT. that too. < 1467844603 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMX is a bit later than the first pentiums < 1467844608 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, FWAIT < 1467844640 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that I have fond memories of a Pentium MMX PC :P < 1467844655 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1467845583 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467845883 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b8ec:f175:9395:123f QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467846195 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467846253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1467846254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1467846255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1467846255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1467846256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1467846321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1075) <+kmc> my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children [...] <+kmc> she did live on psych studies for a year yeah Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects < 1467846340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :916) ~eval 1+2 Error (127): this is a great bot boily i love it < 1467846340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :93) pikhq: from csh type ' exit', is a simple protocol which provides an interface to c. [...] < 1467846340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :218) so you have legacy software in befunge that needs supported? < 1467846341 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :105) but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well < 1467846344 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( WHO DARES TO WAKE ME FROM MY SLUMBER?! ) < 1467846596 0 :cocoabotter!~thepengui@47.23.81.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467846619 0 :cocoabotter!~thepengui@47.23.81.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :##fpga < 1467846720 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1467846819 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, someone I've never seen before joins this channel and randomly posts a link to another, unexplained < 1467846824 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1467846832 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet I don't think it's a spambot because the channel link is pretty close to ontopic, which wouldn't normally happen < 1467847045 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467847122 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467847491 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I just got a spam mail that's recruiting for the Illuminati < 1467847500 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or claims to be, at least < 1467847509 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is pretty creative as spam goes < 1467847528 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading about the historical illuminati, they seem kind of cool (unless I'm missing something)? And dead. < 1467847549 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should make a "best of spam" folder < 1467847663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the first pyramid spam I got. It was great. < 1467848376 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467848383 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I figured out how to make the code work before dinner. < 1467848397 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of it was of course fixing a typo in a loop variable. < 1467848667 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467849598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467849779 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467849822 0 :cocoabotter!~thepengui@47.23.81.82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467851571 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467851883 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1467852596 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467852628 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467852758 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467854616 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467854881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467855136 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467855335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \oren\: Why write to the root directory rather than to tmp/? <-- if you ever get people to do that, it'll be so fun when they hit the tmp/ mv bug. < 1467855362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bug"? < 1467855381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway that file didn't look like it was even intended to be used. < 1467855386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1467855401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but it's a dangerous habit if you don't know what you're doing. < 1467855417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1467855422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not knowing what you're doing is a dangerous habit hth < 1467855429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag test < 1467855429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file test < 1467855447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that file was never written anyway. < 1467855455 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x6ac7051385eeb76321be46a3b04a8a608b00d31c, not stripped < 1467855461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467855472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the difference is, that with almost any other mistake in HackEgo, you can `revert. < 1467855495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but you can always reconstruct what happened, since you made the tmp/ file in public. < 1467855496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not lose information. < 1467855503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since HackEgo modifications are always in public. < 1467855504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1467855527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't expect that apply to tmp/ if people used it for scratch. < 1467855545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it would be the perfect place to try out things. < 1467855557 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does mv in tmp do? < 1467855596 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467855605 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag test < 1467855609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<\oren\> ` echo -e \'#include \\nint main(){printf("hello\\\\n");int i=30;printf("this won\'\\\'\'t work\\\\n");}\' | gcc -std=c90 -xc -otest - \ rm test \ touch test \ rm test \ mkx test//moonwashere \ rm test \ ` echo b > test \ ` echo a > test \ rm-p te < 1467855615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because of HackEgo's lock-and-rerun mechanism, it wipes out the tmp file with no trace. < 1467855621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test < 1467855625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467855637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, we can fix that by having mv check if its first argument is in tmp/. < 1467855640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it did add one. < 1467855643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true. < 1467855653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we can't fix `mv, though. < 1467855655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or can we? < 1467855658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $PATH < 1467855660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1467855665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we can. < 1467855670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: except some people here like to use mv -v < 1467855690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a? < 1467855697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1467855699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv -v? < 1467855712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tells whether it actually did something. < 1467855728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with HackEgo timing out all the time, a good practice. < 1467855749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a fancy mv can still support that. < 1467855939 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1467856050 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467856775 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers PART #esoteric :"bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg" < 1467857069 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467857796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>>-) < 1467857797 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘>>-’ < 1467857797 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1467857797 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘>>’ (imported from Control.Monad.Writer), < 1467857878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh lambdabot no longer imports logict? < 1467857896 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467857902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t interleave < 1467857903 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: ‘interleave’ < 1467857909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow. < 1467857951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Control.Monad.Logic.interleave < 1467857952 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad.Logic.Class.MonadLogic m => m a -> m a -> m a < 1467858246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..]Control.Monad.Logic.>>-repeat < 1467858248 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘Control.Monad.Logic.>>-’ < 1467858248 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1467858248 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘Control.Monad.Cont.>>’ (imported from Control.Monad.Cont), < 1467858279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask int-e why isn't Control.Monad.Logic in lambdabot tdnh < 1467858279 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467858896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had got the misguided impression cabal-install now supported incremental cabal update.
< 1467858908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seemed to take as long as last time. < 1467858929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was just testing my line above) < 1467858973 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e [1..]Control.Monad.Logic.>>-repeat < 1467858973 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467859008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that relies on a very specific implementation of >>- for lists. < 1467859061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..]CML.>>-repeat < 1467859063 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘CML.>>-’ < 1467859068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..]L.>>-repeat < 1467859069 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘L.>>-’ < 1467859087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where L.hs < 1467859087 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What lambdabot has in scope is at < 1467859096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay that worked < 1467859121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the 404ing < 1467859467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e @where L.hs lies tdnh < 1467859467 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467859690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^.) < 1467859691 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :s -> Getting a s a -> a < 1467859720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the one i found at lambdabot/lambdabot is not right, anyway. (no lens) < 1467859727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (^.) < 1467859729 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Typeable s0) < 1467859729 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M668101704439807834720385’ < 1467859729 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: < 1467860500 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467860554 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467861028 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467861136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? obsolate < 1467861139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obsolate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467861759 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467862466 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1467863348 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1467864089 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467864141 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467864332 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467864462 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467864497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, rdococ is HaliteBird? < 1467864714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't know. < 1467865337 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467865383 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467865471 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467866264 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467866475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467866481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One pound is one kilogram." -- Randall Munroe < 1467866508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's about half right. < 1467866539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it about 2 right? < 1467866541 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in the context of order of magnitude estimation, it's not wrong. < 1467866593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: any pooch news? < 1467866611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wrong channel. < 1467866643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: fermily agreed < 1467866657 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is obsolate a word to describe very old people just after they die? < 1467866702 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well that wasn't the use in the logs. < 1467866735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( ^style doggy ) < 1467866767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this isn't even the first time you made that joke hth < 1467866774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't? < 1467866782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe so. < 1467866792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has this channel been going to the dogs for this long < 1467866844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to make some "posthumous" pun in response to quintopia. < 1467866849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I couldn't think of a good one. < 1467867033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't joke about dead people. that's posthumorous. < 1467867058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that one was a candidate. < 1467867066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But neither of us could make it work. < 1467867071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1467867082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I oughtn't be rude for no reason. < 1467867103 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe you can be helpful instead? < 1467867104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realised immediately it should have been s/that's/they're/ hth < 1467867110 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a verb or verb phrase for when you are fired because your employer no longer needs *anyone* to do the job you were doing? < 1467867182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they've died after eating middle east cuisine, then they're posthummus. < 1467867193 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: downsized < 1467867215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: position eliminated < 1467867283 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or if they are left in the woods to rot, decompose entirely, and be washed away in rainstorm, in which case they are posthumus < 1467867301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can't hope to be as helpful as oerjan. < 1467867312 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not can I help to be as hopeful as oerjan. < 1467867319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan mostly hopes that helps. < 1467868227 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467868294 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467868450 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1467868494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1467868909 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1467869907 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467870213 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467871017 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467871033 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467871207 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467871225 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467871681 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: ( < 1467871720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*POOF* < 1467871811 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened?! < 1467871828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot quit tdnh < 1467871872 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :mniip found a vuln < 1467871879 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467871881 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one?! < 1467871891 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :some unicode crap < 1467871899 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what crap?! < 1467871906 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467871924 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :< mniip> @let data QUIT = QUIT < 1467871930 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :< mniip> @let data Њ a b = Њ a b < 1467871936 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :< mniip> :t Њ QUIT (Њ () ()) < 1467871942 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric : -!- lambdabot [~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot] has quit [Quit: (] < 1467871944 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467871949 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1467871957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1467871959 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Њ < 1467871974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+040A CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER NJE] < 1467871975 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1467871988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord Њ < 1467871988 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :208 138 < 1467871996 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly a different encoding? < 1467872004 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that contains a \n somewhere? < 1467872023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ghc haskell uses utf-8 < 1467872027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that seems unlikely < 1467872049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1467872097 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@75.106.27.42 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1467872100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data A = A; data B = B < 1467872108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t B A (B () ()) < 1467872119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: < 1467872136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1467872172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1467872176 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm mostly amazed by the fact that people actually understand haskell < 1467872180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hi" < 1467872187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems locked up :( < 1467872281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: did it really quit immediately after that? < 1467872283 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467872288 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1467872301 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode QUIT < 1467872308 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :mniip had it deafen itself to protect against someone abusing it to e.g. steal the account < 1467872321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467872325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0051 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Q] [U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+0054 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] < 1467872351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hmph. you're supposed to make it quit twice. < 1467872356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it won't rejoin. < 1467872408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess +g works. < 1467872463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord Њ < 1467872470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i see < 1467872470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1034 < 1467872477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 1024 + 10 < 1467872505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gets printed cast to 8 bit < 1467872526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: has someone told int-e (who seems asleep) what happened? < 1467872550 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1467872558 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm @tell won't work :P < 1467872590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try memoserv < 1467872700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he's disabled it. < 1467872719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, github next -> < 1467872798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see no way to contact him there < 1467872874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i have his email somewhere... < 1467872967 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can see < 1467873029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i want to say this in a more public place < 1467873105 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was pinged in #haskell < 1467873120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: well... < 1467873142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well i suppose he won't get it any earlier otherwise < 1467873261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is what happens when every module in lambdabot is supposed to handle its own output issues. < 1467873393 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:fc7:3cf6:89cc:568f:1c7 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1467874655 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467874736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :deafen? < 1467874759 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, server-side ignore. < 1467876240 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467876562 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467876717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone just woke up < 1467876727 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orly? < 1467876756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: int-e has a security vulnerability in lambdabot to handle today. < 1467876819 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1467876827 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious what the vuln was. < 1467876835 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with UTF-8? < 1467876846 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1467876886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :t prints its output converted from codepoints to 8-bit and no \n check seems to be applied after that < 1467876898 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Oh*. < 1467876901 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b8ec:f175:9395:123f JOIN :#esoteric < 1467876919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so someone discovered the Њ < 1467876922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :character < 1467876924 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's serializing as UTF-8 incorrectly? < 1467876961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no, it's serializing codepoints as 8bit clamped < 1467876978 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that is "incorrectly". :P < 1467876983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose :P < 1467877015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more disturbing is that this important check isn't applied uniformly to all lambdabot modules. < 1467877076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1467877078 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1467877094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Proxy :: Proxy "hi" < 1467877095 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proxy "hi" < 1467877127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Proxy :: Proxy "ЊPING" < 1467877128 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proxy "\1034PING" < 1467877140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks better < 1467877143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1467877157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gets passed through show < 1467877160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1467877205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it really does need at least one @let first < 1467877206 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Њ = Њ < 1467877207 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:169:1: < 1467877207 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Multiple declarations of ‘Њ’ < 1467877207 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Declared at: .L.hs:155:1 < 1467877211 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1467877236 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data ЊPING = ЊPING < 1467877237 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1467877243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ЊPING < 1467877244 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PING < 1467877249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is a mess. < 1467877261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone fixed it speedily >:) < 1467877284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is int-e online? < 1467877290 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, he is < 1467877300 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does your fix work for all lambdabot modules, else someone might find another loophole... < 1467877337 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ЊPING < 1467877338 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 2): < 1467877338 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected '\138' < 1467877338 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting letter or digit, variable, "(", operator or end of input < 1467877340 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: brb < 1467877356 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl xЊPING < 1467877360 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's on the IRC connection level < 1467877369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: good < 1467877406 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and while I am at it that's also the perfect place to get rid of the CTCP and color codes :P < 1467877417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWWW < 1467877471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hey careful not to break @time < 1467877492 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's just filtering some bytes. < 1467877505 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'll still get *some* output. < 1467877515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that @time uses CTCP to do its job < 1467877541 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, hmm. < 1467877568 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I just broke that :P < 1467877638 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1467877735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ACTIONs, i'm not sure if any commands officially support those though < 1467877767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, @time is kind of silly. < 1467877784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y U HATE TIME < 1467877792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always use ctcp directly. < 1467877885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very demonstrative tdnh < 1467877885 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, fine, CTCP can stay for now while I mull over it < 1467877893 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: brb < 1467877986 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, @time is a bit silly. < 1467878027 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't go as far as hating it though < 1467878040 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much effort; I prefer indifference < 1467878073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one here hates @time. < 1467878084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for Cale, maybe. < 1467878087 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where L.hs < 1467878097 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1467878134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oops, it's not here yet) < 1467878143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain it. < 1467878165 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of these entries does lambdabot have anyway... < 1467878169 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1467878236 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ L.hs what lambdabot has in scope is at http://silicon.int-e.eu/lambdabot/State/Pristine.hs < 1467878241 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will never forget. < 1467878242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Do you hate time? < 1467878264 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :without time, when would you do all the hating... < 1467878295 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It would be compressed into an instantaneous fit of intense rage < 1467878297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure Control.Monad.Logic _used_ to be in there, anyway. < 1467878332 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know what you're really referring to < 1467878339 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lambdabot plugin? < 1467878340 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have been when Cale run it... mokus or I probably cleaned it up a little < 1467878357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of the speed of light, anyway? < 1467878371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cleanup was illogical tdnh < 1467878384 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose... Cale please correct me if I'm wrong) < 1467878423 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have imported Control.Monad.Logic at some point < 1467878466 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where Pristine.hs < 1467878466 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about pristine.hs. < 1467878474 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b8ec:f175:9395:123f QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467878521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People don't like single-layer perceptron networks, but they seem to be inexorable. < 1467878538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i noticed the github repository has three Pristine.hs* files for some reason. < 1467878564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that a pun because it smells like one < 1467878581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1467878595 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "for some reason" - I think the reason should be easy to guess given their names < 1467878606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1467878622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :706 and 708 are GHC versions? < 1467878625 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1467878628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1467878654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there I was thinking it was Jul 6 and Jul 8. < 1467878664 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And today we're right in between, which is why were having lambdabot issues. < 1467878672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thausible. < 1467878693 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d9bc:7552:d22:e258 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467878741 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... later < 1467879010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the last TODO seems obsolete with (:~:) around. < 1467879192 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we start reading todo as a spanish word < 1467879208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We already do. < 1467879224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any todo list ultimately progresses toward its Spanish meaning. < 1467879284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :todo loco < 1467879742 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: s/last //; s/ with.*// < 1467879763 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the todo list is a historical artifact < 1467879868 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually... which TODO? < 1467879876 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@todo 43 < 1467879876 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : @todo has no args, try @todo-add or @list todo < 1467879878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@todo 44 < 1467879878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : @todo has no args, try @todo-add or @list todo < 1467879887 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1467879924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um i meant the todo in your Pristine.hs < 1467879954 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1467879976 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mokus added that one < 1467880919 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467882092 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467882246 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467882247 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1467883931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467884223 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467884453 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467885318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1467886148 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467886482 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467886856 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467887351 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467887935 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d9bc:7552:d22:e258 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467888475 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1467888583 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467888624 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a game with 10 rounds and 2 players. Each player in every round must say a number 1..10 but they can never say the same number twice. < 1467888648 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your number is higher you get two points, if it's lower no points and if both numbers are the same each gets one point. < 1467888764 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What strategy would you use? < 1467888801 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: and in each round, the two players choose the numbers without learning about the other, but having learnt the numbers from the previous rounds? < 1467888830 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467888879 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: this game reminds me sort of to the game Niagara, which is a german style board game for between 3 and 5 players ideally, but which interestingly has a quite small space state, so that it could conveniently (even for humans) be played through irc < 1467888880 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you know the numbers from the previous rounds. < 1467888897 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you exactly know which numbers your opponent still has available < 1467888944 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually this should be bruteforcable quite nicely < 1467888955 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10! possible games would be my estimate < 1467888977 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1467888983 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: aren't there more like 100*10! games? still, probably brute-forcable < 1467889005 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3628800 does sound like too few games < 1467889016 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like this game, Niagara has some hidden state, so it needs a trusted third party (e.g. a bot) to validate things over irc, or a simple cryptographic protocol. < 1467889035 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it's not 10! games, but 10! states < 1467889044 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are much more games, about 10!**2 of them < 1467889056 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only about 100*10! states < 1467889068 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even less if you cut a bit) < 1467889089 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1467889099 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, it's brute-forcable < 1467889116 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467889163 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh but brute-force doesn't really tell you immediately the strategy behind it < 1467889177 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might tell you that some orders have a higher chance of winning < 1467889206 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is actually comparing every permutation of [1..10] with every other permutation of [1..10] < 1467889208 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c530:bb34:13db:236b JOIN :#esoteric < 1467889211 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the brute force would tell you whether you can win from any particular state, and how to win from it < 1467889230 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the other player makes a theoretical mistake, you can win if you've done the brute force computation < 1467889230 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is 10! squared < 1467889245 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is symmetric, so the starting state is a draw < 1467889710 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/2StFKlse < 1467889713 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1467889730 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no permutation that wins more :) < 1467889752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, I'm stupid < 1467889760 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's actually less states < 1467889781 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so overall the chance of winning when they play perfectly is 0% < 1467889784 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'll draw each time < 1467889804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's only 184756 states < 1467889839 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: no no, you said you don't choose the permutation in advance, but choose each number after you know what (you and) the other player chose on each of the previous rounds < 1467889870 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes the game different < 1467889881 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1467889886 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This crunches through every possible game < 1467889890 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c530:bb34:13db:236b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467889958 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: think about it. or should I brute force it and demonstrate or something? < 1467889982 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it at least means that no order has a higher chance of winning per se < 1467890004 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, but you don't decide the order in advance, and nor does the opponent, so that's irrelevant < 1467890189 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you start with the highest and the other player with the lowest you'll loose :) < 1467890315 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/CNwt8JTN < 1467890423 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I'm writing a brute forcer and a particular player now, please wait < 1467890426 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that complicated < 1467890427 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just make sure you test with an even amount of numbers so there's no middle number) < 1467890443 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might end up depending on who has the higher number in the first round < 1467890445 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? you said there are 10 numbers exactly < 1467890449 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1467890477 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I figured to detect tendencies 1,2,3,4 should work too) < 1467890490 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(less permutations) < 1467890678 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1467890924 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: mind you, an odd number might give an interesting game, because then there are no ties. < 1467890965 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll stick with 10 for now < 1467890973 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still writing a program < 1467891257 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467891742 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/07/05/bot-bot/ < 1467892179 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm stupid, there'd be ties even for an odd number < 1467892263 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: you win the round if you have more points than 10, and lose if you have less points than 10, right? < 1467892277 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the total points is 20 < 1467892495 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you win the round when you have more points than the opponent < 1467892576 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably equivalent to saying you win when you have more than 10 points :) < 1467892626 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if every round draws it's 10, 10. Each round can hand out 2 points so total 20 < 1467892627 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1467892631 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're equivalent. < 1467892959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still writing my program, please wait < 1467892973 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the brute force done, but chose the wrong strategy < 1467892979 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to fix it < 1467893041 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already wins against random strategy more often than not, but it can be beaten with a particular strategy. I'll fix it now. < 1467893054 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I'll have to add a network or irc interface or something < 1467893066 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can play against < 1467893079 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn, it doesn't even seem to work against a random strategy < 1467893082 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something's wrong with it < 1467893085 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'll fix it < 1467893091 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know at least one bug < 1467893403 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467893852 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467893972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, something is still buggy < 1467894009 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1467894049 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1467894056 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm trying can't work < 1467894059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1467894097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it can, I dunno < 1467894299 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably have to think about this later < 1467894303 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't write it now < 1467894610 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: WRAITH CHICKEN < 1467894767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467895145 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-dhwdvhmsoelsrrmi QUIT :Excess Flood < 1467895238 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fkeqqtflbgcjhxdx JOIN :#esoteric < 1467895404 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1467895417 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's not even a better strategy then doing random() < 1467895756 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/SraTcU2M < 1467895757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo! < 1467895768 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least 'player_mid_first' seems to suck a bit < 1467895770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing more satisfying than Google identifying you as a potential bot < 1467895779 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't search for porn too long < 1467895784 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will immediately flag you as a bot . < 1467896042 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/nZNEw6zE <- if anybody want's to write a player :D < 1467896044 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wants < 1467896134 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at hppavilion[1] < 1467896136 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1467896152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: What's crazy is that wasn't even it < 1467896155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Wait, well, actually < 1467896169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, I kind of was < 1467896180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, I was looking for the smbc forum thread for http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2408#comic < 1467896190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the forum doesn't have a search feature < 1467896191 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1467896199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Do you have spyware running on my computer? < 1467896293 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thecatapi.com/ < 1467896465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cat executions: Done with the Electric Box? < 1467896572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 2000, some conservative associations sued the government for granting the movie Baise-moi, which contained graphic, realistic scenes of sex and violence, a non-X classification." < 1467896580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :France, I think your conservatives are broken < 1467897971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467899224 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467899423 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467900965 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467902259 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467902454 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467905671 0 :Xylon_!51cf9f6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.159.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467905897 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467905922 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467906412 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1467906892 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.167 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1467906987 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467907561 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467907733 0 :Xylon_!51cf9f6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.159.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I'm trying to implement a very simple line in Pyth, but it seems like I keep doing something wrong. I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. < 1467907739 0 :Xylon_!51cf9f6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.159.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is it in normal Python: "reduce(lambda x,y: x^y, input)", where input is a list of integers. I figured out the following in Pyth: u^GHQ0, where u indicates that it's a reduce, G and H are the accumulator and sequence variable (G^H), Q is the input list and 0 is the initial value of the accumulator afaik, but it doesn't seem to give the wanted results. < 1467908654 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467908916 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467909378 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467909411 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467909642 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467909883 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xylon_: hmm, ^ is exponentiation; x is xor? < 1467910038 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11 < 1467910076 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should write an emulator < 1467910344 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm. PINBALL_GAME_BUTTONS_AND_LIGHTS.s < 1467910521 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta spend time somehow < 1467910523 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1467910610 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: anyway http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/download.html looks like an emulator already exists < 1467910612 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :all hail ##math's lord and protector Cale < 1467910623 0 :Xylon_!51cf9f6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.159.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You're right! I expected that ^ would be the same as it would be in python. But with languages like this I shouldn't assume things. Thanks! < 1467910729 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xylon_: in general you are probably more likely to be able to get help like that in the Pyth chat, or in the 19th byte if no one is there < 1467910888 0 :Xylon_!51cf9f6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.159.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Thanks, hadn't even thought of chat channels on stackexchange < 1467911388 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:bc5f:dd29:fc23:3575 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467911409 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e477:a7c1:6156:23c9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467911584 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like stackexchange < 1467911821 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, that euclidthegame.com game has a bug where it resets the counter but does not remove all elements used so far... < 1467912033 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1467912034 0 :I!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467912058 0 :I!?@? NICK :Guest97615 < 1467912252 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I don't like Quira or stack overflow either < 1467912300 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not liking things is a fun activity for all to enjoy! < 1467912318 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ok, now it's your turn < 1467912483 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? \oren\ < 1467912507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\oren\ is an attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability, and it made everything else... well, there isn't much else in a nick, is there? < 1467912515 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1467912518 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a. < 1467913284 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i dont like misanthropy < 1467913773 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :misanthropy? < 1467913781 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're websites! < 1467913807 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, poorly designed and annoying to use ones < 1467917207 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467917248 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467917350 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:10be:67e9:3025:233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467917447 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1467917789 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine suffers from depression, so she took a vacation... to finland. < 1467917826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is great. Sounds like a good plan. < 1467917830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1467917851 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1467917960 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, finland does not seem like a very cheerful place, but she's apparently loving it < 1467918002 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467918074 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellwob_jonas! < 1467918088 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching the SGDQ videos < 1467918095 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the temporary youtube encodes for now) < 1467918183 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467918439 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap the war between clinton and the goppers is getting intense < 1467918540 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope they start televising the senate < 1467918822 0 :Xylon_!51cf9f6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.159.107 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1467919442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it should be fine in summer, I suppose < 1467919486 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty too... and she could look for Slartibartfasts signature... (hey, this is #esoteric...) < 1467919605 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to figure out what to do with my life ;) < 1467920326 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that in Norway though < 1467920330 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :them fjords < 1467920335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1467920369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what are you going to do with your life < 1467920373 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you're right, I keep mixing up the nordic countries. < 1467920395 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I could start by not mixing up IRC channels. < 1467920409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which channels did you mix up? < 1467920428 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1467920428 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one, and another. < 1467920434 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sure are curious today < 1467920436 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon Tetris TGM on SGDQ < 1467920463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, maybe I need to figoure out what to do with my life. < 1467920518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :figure < 1467920552 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of animal would shed bikes? < 1467920597 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also imagine that the process would be quite painful. but nature is often cruel.) < 1467920713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the answer has to do with the bicyclic monoid. < 1467920745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, the diversion is already over. < 1467920755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So back to my life. < 1467920837 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: :) < 1467921006 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3868:eabe:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467921034 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467921259 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467921303 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3868:eabe:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467923112 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1467923341 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467923856 0 :nycs!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467923952 0 :Guest97615!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467924325 0 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467924330 0 :nycs!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467924926 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hi! < 1467925033 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Deewiant Working anything on mycology? I lifted some code from cfunge's DATE fingerprint and found a bug that apparently wasn't tested by mycology. Basically for dates pre-dating the Gregorian calendar I used Julian calendar, but only when converting from JDN to YMD, not the other way around. It probably isn't specified what calendar to use, but it should be the same for both directions I think < 1467925033 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467925072 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Deewiant I'm going to change it to use the proleptic Gregorian calendar. That is, backdated Gregorian to apply before that point in time. < 1467925072 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1467925323 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably wise. The date of Gregorian changeover is actually region-specific. < 1467925397 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spanning from 1582 to 1923) < 1467925557 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes. I just think mycology should actually test you do the same thing in both directions :) < 1467925571 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1467925602 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I basically ported those functions to a different language (for a different project), and then I threw property based testing on it (like quickcheck) and it found that issue < 1467925632 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, watching summer games done quick? < 1467925642 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are playing tetris right now. And it is super-impressive < 1467925644 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1467925651 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on twitch) < 1467925691 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467925700 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! < 1467925720 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, How can this NOT be the TAS segment < 1467925731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Vorpal < 1467925735 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1467925761 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about git clones of a subdirectory of a repository and things like that. < 1467925777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be that hg has advantages over git for that sort of thing. < 1467926131 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1467926273 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, hm? < 1467926284 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you clone only a sub-directory? < 1467926290 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1467926291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? < 1467926292 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if you can in hg. < 1467926296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard they were working on it in hg. < 1467926301 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never had the need for it < 1467926304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Facebook was working on it. < 1467926309 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, in CVS you can. Same for SVN < 1467926320 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that's much easier, of course. < 1467926410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 446 < 1467926415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 447 < 1467926426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist 446: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1467926431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist 447: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1467926548 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVS has a file-oriented storage < 1467926561 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVN doesn't fetch any history, just snapshots < 1467926606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if Facebook uses hg for their whole repository, they're probably doing some interesting things to make that work. < 1467926616 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trouble with git isn't checking out subdirectories (there's "sparse" checkouts which do, essentially, that) but that fetching a repo means fetching its commits, and that will pull in the whole history for all subdirectories < 1467926654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, I want to not clone out the contents of trees other than the one I'm looking at. < 1467926662 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course the object structure itself would support partial fetches) < 1467926667 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, we use sub-repositories at work < 1467926673 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, not one hg repo for everything < 1467926686 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I don't think that the software does... it's fetching a full transitive closure) < 1467926690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But using one big repository for everything is the best. < 1467926702 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :then for any given project we have a shell repo that just pulls in the sub-repos (there is no code in the shell repo, well okay there is a CMakeLists.txt, but that is it) < 1467926735 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well, that has issues when there are many different products that don't need the same code < 1467926793 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know. What I was trying to say is that bringing up SVN or CVS is not very meaningful. < 1467927053 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467927104 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say git has the features for 90% of use cases, svn has the features for 80%, and a tgz file with a bunch of back versions is enough for 70%. < 1467927130 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, no... tgz is not enough when developing < 1467927142 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure if you just want to download a software < 1467927172 0 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467927199 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean a tgz file containing subdirectories like project_June12/ project_June14/, etc. < 1467927216 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, *puke* < 1467927254 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats how many of my amateur things are done < 1467927274 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and it is terrible < 1467927297 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pretty much create a repo (hg) before I even write a line of code. < 1467927305 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even for small personal projects < 1467927355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I mean, I think git/hg might be able to do that reasonably well. < 1467927376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in theory. < 1467927390 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, no I was just wondering what tools *can* do what he asked for < 1467927397 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :VCSs keep metainformation and allow you to separate changes into logical commits... doing that with tar would be really hard. (Sure, one could maintain a changelog... but that's extra effort and will still lose information) < 1467927398 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the answer "no distributed ones"? < 1467927431 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about source safe? < 1467927432 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I need any of that in most cases < 1467927433 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1467927464 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, distributed is easier to set up in most cases. You don't need a server until you want to publish it < 1467927466 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so you never ask yourself why a particular line made it into your code? < 1467927479 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :with svn (and presumably cvs?) you absolutely do need that from the get-go < 1467927511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with tar you don't need a server um. ever. < 1467927528 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an http server will work fine < 1467927581 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :git works quite well without a server < 1467927584 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I believe shallow clones are a thing now, up to a point. < 1467927590 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re "the whole history". < 1467927614 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, but they are only shallow in that the history is pruned... shachaf wants to prune subtrees < 1467927628 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but indeed I should've been more precise < 1467927705 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :50% of my projects are written as a single file < 1467927771 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm objecting to the notion that tar files come even close to a version control system. < 1467927822 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's more like you know a bunch of commands that let you use diff, tar, and the shell together as a vcs < 1467927827 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's okay to develop some things without version control. < 1467927886 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the major thing that this helps me do is track down regressions. i have the version from yesterday, and the version from 4 days ago, etc. < 1467927927 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Here's an idea: why don't you go and use one giant Perforce repository for everything, and then a layer of scripts to allow "cloning" particular sets of subdirectories as local git repositories, maybe with a bit of FUSE to still make a unified read-only view of the entire in-the-cloud repository possible. < 1467927933 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any vcs at all I wouldn't have that ability < 1467927989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That sounds pretty good. But I might just reimplement Perforce myself if it doesn't scale to the size of my repository. < 1467928005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I guess the point of disagreement is that your 70% number, in my view, is closer to perhaps 20%. < 1467928093 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: For example, I can have two copies of the project at home and at work, have changes in both, and merge them sanely. That will be a quite horrible mess with tar and diff and patch. Not impossible, sure, but a lot more effort than it should be. < 1467928094 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sounds good. Maybe you could call the whole thing "Tuber" or something like that, and then let's say "git9" for the git bridge tool. < 1467928135 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, yeah there is a learning curve in using diff and patch well < 1467928159 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> with tar you don't need a server um. ever. <-- sure. I was talking about svn and cvs < 1467928167 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I don't consider tar a serious alternative < 1467928174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, those git scripts wouldn't clone a "true" clone of the repository. < 1467928189 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much better than not using any vcs at all < 1467928191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those hashes would lead to nowhere. < 1467928201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, you know what I mean. < 1467928205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's kind of scow. < 1467928212 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not expressing myself very well right now. < 1467928226 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, also git or hg is easier than tar. Just: hg commit -m "Changed stuff" < 1467928229 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can certainly see the seams, yes. < 1467928229 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hg add . < 1467928234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Why wouldn't you just use git instead of tar+diff+patch? < 1467928239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much easier. < 1467928241 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, the tar thing actually needs more commands! < 1467928243 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: git is not easy < 1467928250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just: git commit -m "Changed stuff" < 1467928253 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, agreed. hg is though. < 1467928263 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, and TortoiseHg is a GREAT gui for it < 1467928273 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which git lacks < 1467928273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use mercurial... mercurial is only hard for git users, I believe :P < 1467928291 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, well said. I'm a hg user, and I find git confusing. < 1467928300 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mercurial is so close to git that I want to use it like git, and then it falls short all the time.) < 1467928301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you read _The Gone-Away World_? < 1467928322 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I didn't. < 1467928327 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, branches work differently. Otherwise it is mostly the same I believe. But git has a more confusing user interface. < 1467928337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That book is pretty good. < 1467928351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway there's a machine in it called "Piper 90". < 1467928357 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that git has too many concepts < 1467928359 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm perforce, is that central or distributed? < 1467928362 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and is it FOSS? < 1467928377 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm not disagreeing. Actually the thing that I find most confusing in mercurial is the "tip" thing that jumps around randomly when there's more than one head. < 1467928384 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Central, proprietary. < 1467928387 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :("randomly" meaning I can't reliably predict it) < 1467928391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole "multiple heads" thing in hg sounds bizarre to me. < 1467928424 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, you generally shouldn't have more than one head in a given named branch I would say. Also you probably want "default" instead of tip then? < 1467928441 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, oh and I mostly use TortoiseHg. It is actually a great GUI. < 1467928457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... shell user here < 1467928469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only complicated thing about git is that the commands are bizarre and arbitrary. < 1467928479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And each one does several different things. < 1467928481 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, fair enough. Just saying that sometimes when things get complicated, a visual look at the tree can be easier to understand < 1467928492 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :X is useful so that I can have 9 xterms on the screen simultaneously. < 1467928504 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, especially in projects with multiple persons and complicated merges < 1467928520 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and stashes. I would like there to be no such thing as a stash < 1467928521 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a visual look can be superior for understanding what the f**ck is going on. < 1467928531 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I use hg view quite a lot. < 1467928532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Then don't use "git stash"? < 1467928540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't exist if you don't want them to. < 1467928548 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but that;s the only way to discard changes < 1467928548 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ hg view < 1467928548 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: unknown command 'view' < 1467928548 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :'view' is provided by the following extension: < 1467928548 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : hgk browse the repository in a graphical way < 1467928549 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1467928551 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1467928571 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, how does it compare to thg workbench? < 1467928571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ? < 1467928582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does discarding changes have to do with git stash? < 1467928615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you discard the changes in your working directory by saying ``git stash'' < 1467928619 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, https://www.mercurial-scm.org/wiki/HgkExtension suggests it is deprecated and hgview or tortoisehg should be used instead < 1467928628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I don't? < 1467928641 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hg view is not very useful really... it's a stripped down clone of gitk. It helps me that it looks familiar. I wouldn't recommend it. < 1467928651 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, I thought you were actually being sinceret or something. < 1467928652 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1467928658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've known better. < 1467928666 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. that's the way I learned git < 1467928690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name "stash" might be a clue that it's not discarding anything. < 1467928738 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :git add my files with changes I want to keep, git commit to do... something. then git push which does an actual commit. finally git stash to discard uncommited changes < 1467928791 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess git commit is how you add the message to your commit < 1467928818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should spend half an hour or an hour learning how git works. < 1467928819 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's such a bizarre use of terminology. < 1467928836 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, for your usage, hg would probably be simpler. < 1467928866 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, especially given the amazing cross platform GUI that TortoiseHg provides < 1467928904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo trollminology < 1467928905 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you alias on top of existing commands? You could alias 'git stash' into actually being about discarding changes. < 1467928940 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the proper way of discarding changes in git? < 1467928951 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well how would you discard the changes in your working copy that you don't want to commit? < 1467928961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :git reset --hard? < 1467928966 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, in hg it is "hg revert" < 1467928983 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. well that sounds legit < 1467928991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or `git checkout file` to restore a file to its state in HEAD. < 1467928997 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is that per file? < 1467929000 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the ENTIRE tree? < 1467929009 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1467929010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :git reset --hard is the entire tree. < 1467929014 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1467929022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't do it too often. < 1467929024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't. < 1467929030 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what does --hard do? < 1467929041 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset the staging area as well < 1467929053 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the working tree. < 1467929069 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that (the staging area) is really the bit that you have to understand before git stops being confusing. < 1467929070 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, compared to --soft, which just adjusts what the head points at. < 1467929123 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, that entire "staging area" concept is confusing and annoying I find < 1467929124 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: isn't the staging area just the list of files I want to commit? not confusing at all? < 1467929125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What git-reset actually does is change your current branch to point to some commit. The commit is implicitly HEAD, i.e. where you are right now. < 1467929125 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's invisible at first, but that's where you prepare the commit. "git diff" shows differences between working tree and staging area. "git diff --cached" shows differences between staging area and the last commit; *those* are the changes "git commit" actually commits. < 1467929127 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And quite pointless < 1467929141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: git-reset --hard doesn't change only the current branch, but also the things that int-e and fizzie said. < 1467929142 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's a love or hate thing; there's no middle ground :P < 1467929157 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1467929177 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it quite powerful. And there's commit -a for the fairly common case that you want to commit all changes. < 1467929179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I have no strong feelings about the git staging area. < 1467929179 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, agreed. And sure, there are things that hg could do better. But it is still less confusing than git < 1467929186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could take it or leave it. < 1467929188 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: damn you! :P < 1467929205 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, with hg you just list the files you want to commit if not all of them on the "commit" command line < 1467929209 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense to me < 1467929220 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, like svn < 1467929226 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does "git ci" not alias to "git commit" < 1467929229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that with git-commit too. < 1467929231 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does for hg, and it is shorter < 1467929237 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467929242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make that alias if you want. < 1467929257 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I have an alias for that in my configuration. < 1467929258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :git config --global alias.ci commit < 1467929278 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1467929282 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it not default though < 1467929286 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"log1 = log --oneline --decorate=full --graph" is an alias I've started to use a lot. < 1467929306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there a way to add a staging area to svn < 1467929319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1467929322 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main issue I have with git is that there is no *good* GUI. For some reason I'm a GUI person when it comes to version control < 1467929329 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a terminal person otherwise < 1467929335 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, use git-svn? < 1467929364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah, maybe I should use that instead of --decorate. I guess =full shows more information. < 1467929386 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467929392 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shows what sort of ref it is. < 1467929396 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it would be nice if I could add files to my 'svn ci' line one at a time < 1467929420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: --all is also a useful flag there, sometimes. < 1467929423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, I could use bash and a variable < 1467929437 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of git add < 1467929439 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the =full part is slightly redundant in that at least some of the prefixes have their own colors. < 1467929512 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a good version control system for unmergable binary files? At work we use svn for that, due to the locking support < 1467929517 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hg for everything else < 1467929557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It's true that in order to use git effectively you need to spend a bit of time up-front learning how it works. < 1467929585 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :staged=$staged' 'some_file.cpp < 1467929604 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn ci $staged < 1467929616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean learning what the commands do, which is kind of arbitrary but pretty easy to look up, but getting a mental model of what a git repository is. < 1467929702 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also was happy about "git worktree" getting in the real git. < 1467929718 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what does that do? < 1467929747 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets you have multiple working trees (with different branches checked out) linked to the same repository. < 1467929752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whoa whoa whoa, fancy < 1467929772 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found http://eagain.net/articles/git-for-computer-scientists/ useful when I started using git... http://nyuccl.org/pages/gittutorial/ looks more recent but similar in spirit. < 1467929943 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've really needed git worktree at home, but some IDEs (not naming names here) are a little bit too enthusiastic about having everything indexed all the time whenever anything in the filesystem changes to make jumping around between branches pleasant. < 1467929982 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And (as far as I can tell, anyway) git doesn't really have a generalized way of saying "do this thing in a branch without checking it out". < 1467930000 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do some things. < 1467930012 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not in general, I guess. < 1467930028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I never used anything with a name similar to git9. < 1467930050 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's the kind of thing you can't do to a branch without checking it out. < 1467930129 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm hg had something like that for ages < 1467930169 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use something with a name similar to git9, but only ever do the synchronize-with-the-world operation in a single branch called "clean", which I've found is a relatively nice way to manage whatever unpleasantess there is with the boundary to the Other System. < 1467930169 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, basically it has a command (as a bundled extension) to hardlink the shared revision data files between multiple repos. < 1467930235 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact hardlinking is how a local same-filesystem clone works < 1467930238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard link? What happens if you edit a file? < 1467930254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you really want is a copy-on-write hard link, isn't it? < 1467930255 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, hg is made to handle that for the internal revision file data < 1467930256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't edit the repository data files manually, hopefully. < 1467930261 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the working tree is NOT hardlinked < 1467930268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the repository data files. < 1467930275 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's more or less how 'git worktree' works, except there's some automatic administrative bookkeeping as well. And there's long been custom scripts to do it, they just weren't included in the stock distribution until relatively recently. < 1467930282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The working tree ought to be COW hard-linked, though. < 1467930302 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in a perfect world. < 1467930304 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, that is harder though. Probably possible with FUSE, btrfs or zfs? < 1467930316 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard that btrfs supports that, at least. < 1467930346 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467930361 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Anyhoo, I use something with a name similar to git9, but only ever do the synchronize-with-the-world operation in a single branch called "clean", which I've found is a relatively nice way to manage some of the unpleasantess there is with the boundary to the Other System. < 1467930383 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can pretend 'clean' is just a tracking branch for a remote, more or less. < 1467930395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I saw that when you said it earlier. < 1467930397 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1467930409 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I didn't say that because I started to say something else. < 1467930419 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll notice I further edited it a little bit. < 1467930436 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. "whatever" -< "some of the". < 1467930457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I do that. I start editing a long line in the irssi buffer, ^U it, send it, send something else, then paste the ^U-ed text and forget I sent it already. < 1467930506 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what is ^U? < 1467930523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-U < 1467930528 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get THAT < 1467930530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delete (cut) the current line. < 1467930533 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it it like ctrl-x in modern editors? < 1467930544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-X for the current line. < 1467930549 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1467930581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/git-users/7b40Ie89Vqs < 1467930591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny when people post things like that. < 1467930601 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I ended up there as well. < 1467930630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know the right strings to search for, you can find a lot of bug reports that are full of secret HTTP headers containing all sorts of secret data. < 1467930660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's not that secret. < 1467930662 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'd just like to voice my disapproval of the world making C-w in Emacs kill-region, but in browsers close-tab. < 1467930682 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've closed a number of tabs while trying to edit text in a box. < 1467930684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's terrible. < 1467930691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done the same thing. < 1467930693 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very happy about C-S-t. < 1467930706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at work I use Mac OS, where you close a tab with Cmd-W. < 1467930709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a bit better. < 1467930722 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hah. I'm a sublime user these days < 1467930730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Unfortunately I do all my browsing in Chrome's Incognito mode, so I can't C-S-t. < 1467930741 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's nasty. < 1467930746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do some of it in Firefox' Private Browsing mode, I guess. Firefox does support it. < 1467930895 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use vim < 1467930898 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next < 1467930907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do use vim. < 1467930916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for IRC, though. < 1467930960 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have typed ":wq\n" into a number of text boxes as well. < 1467930964 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's generally less dramatic. < 1467930989 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can actually do that with extensions < 1467930990 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls ;-) < 1467931003 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ts annoying how ^O saves on nano but open on everything else < 1467931074 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't save on vim :p < 1467931117 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Speaking of secret stuff, there's a bunch of Chrome bug reports containing all kinds of internal nomenclature as well. < 1467931141 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=52734 for example. < 1467931190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, that's what I meant. < 1467931204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was talking about some chrome bug reports. < 1467931206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that one. < 1467931285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But any of them that include an http response. < 1467931300 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1467931328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One time there was a picture of a data center in Finland that had pictures of machines with labels on them specifying their hostnames. < 1467931344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was kind of funny. I think it's gone now, though. < 1467931356 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the knowledge of there being a data center in Finland is no longer a secret. < 1467931371 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what *is* git5? < 1467931397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: fizzie described it by the name "git9" above. < 1467931407 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, okay and what actually is it? < 1467931409 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone tried to tell me we still haven't publicly acknowledged the existence of the Hamina data center, which is patently untrue. < 1467931420 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/inside/locations/hamina/ < 1467931435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You might have acknowledged its existence, but have you acknowledged the acknowledgement of its existence? < 1467931456 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I read about it in the Swedish technology news paper "Ny Teknik" several years ago < 1467931483 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so git9 is some kind of google-internal wrapper script for git? < 1467931496 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really git5, I just wanted to be fancy. < 1467931522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's the bridge from local git to the well-published Perforce-based VCS we generally use. < 1467931532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised to learn about this one thing that says "the existence of [this thing] is confidential". < 1467931542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in retrospect I shouldn't have been surprised. < 1467931548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that's why it was confidential. < 1467931551 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that people who're conversant with git can keep using it. < 1467931552 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you pump waste heat into the district heating system? < 1467931555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've probably said too much. < 1467931559 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I believe some data centers in Sweden do that < 1467931563 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know. < 1467931571 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I knew I couldn't tell, unless it's something we advertise. < 1467931587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie never talks about corporate secrets in public IRC channels. < 1467931600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless someone else has accidentally talked about them in public bug reports, I guess. < 1467931632 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in the latter case, I might still apply some caution. < 1467931660 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you store work emails on a private server in your home? < 1467931683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie probably stores personal emails on a private server at work. < 1467931706 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking of storing personal data at work, just because of the tools. < 1467931735 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the magical thing about the "staging area" is that it's a lot more than a list of files to commit, it's really a snapshot of the entire tree that will be committed, so e.g. the staged files don't have to look the same as the files on disk... which probably sounds useless and confusing until you start using it all the time < 1467931745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's a rude way to refer to your colleagues hth < 1467931768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's true. < 1467931779 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, fair enough I guess. Most of the time it isn't really that useful a feature though. Or when it is I want multiple versions of it (similar to MQ patches in hg) < 1467931787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: If you modify a file, and then git add it, and then modify it again, and commit, only your first modification will be committed. < 1467931837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4pnJdEZ2Iw is a song about that data center, I assume. < 1467931852 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I do use MQ, and MQ is a more advanced version of that, where you can have multiple snapshots as kind of editable non-pushable-until-you-convert commits. And you can reorder then and unapply them and reapply them and so on < 1467931864 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, also you can version control your actual MQ patch queue itself < 1467931864 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :D < 1467931865 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: AAAAAAAAAA < 1467931877 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOO that is awful < 1467931895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because what you're really "adding" is the current state of the file, not just the file name. < 1467931897 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that sounds close to how I use branches < 1467931904 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I can see the use of it. I don't think it should be the default behaviour though < 1467931921 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, branches are pushable though? MQ patches are not. < 1467932237 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Man, that *is* a lot of internal headers in bugs.chromium.org. Maybe they should have some sort of a thing. < 1467932335 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh? Link to an example? < 1467932350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I should. < 1467932364 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well it is public, I could probably find it anyway? < 1467932374 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, but maybe you won't care enough. < 1467932378 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to tell me what they mean < 1467932518 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a lot of internal jargon so far at least < 1467932526 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I assume you mean HTTP headers? < 1467932526 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the principle of the thing. If the names and values are something we don't show to external users, I probably shouldn't be linking to them either, even if they leak all kinds of ways. < 1467932530 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or bug headers? < 1467932543 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP, yes. < 1467932694 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, quite a few ones with weird headers < 1467932976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably all of them would have a particular header with a value of the form /x/y/z/y/x/... < 1467932985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably I'm saying too much anyway. < 1467933097 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you don't work at google do you? < 1467933108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I used to. < 1467933111 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1467933444 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467933511 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467933566 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:10be:67e9:3025:233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467933633 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1467933829 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:10be:67e9:3025:233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467934556 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1467934961 0 :JenElizabeth8!~jenelizab@cpc76804-brmb10-2-0-cust651.1-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467936039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1467937838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes mroman and b_jonas botching game theory in the logs
< 1467938070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nothing better than a plate of hot wings and some jamaican ginger beer < 1467938132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1467938148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has never had jamaican ginger beer, so cannot say.
< 1467938176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i've ever had ginger beer at all. must have been back in my childhood if so. < 1467938195 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like ginger ale but much spicier < 1467938207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think have had ginger < 1467938219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i have < 1467938241 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like root beer but with ginger instead of sarsparilla < 1467938253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i have had root beer hth < 1467938259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grins maniackally
< 1467938269 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i you what how what < 1467938281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more likely i've had ginger beer/ale than root beer, anyhow. < 1467938286 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Root beer is pretty much only popular in the US. < 1467938300 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people elsewhere say it tastes like medicine. < 1467938319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norwegian, the general word for beer and ale are the same (øl), so i wouldn't know the difference. < 1467938320 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the point, it tastes like medicine < 1467938398 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467938456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the english word "ale" seems to have been borrowed by brewing hipsters. < 1467938495 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ginger ale" is a soft drink flavored with ginger. Ginger beer is either a soft drink flavored very strongly with ginger, or a beer made by fermenting ginger. < 1467938552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i only know about brewing hipsters from the Lunch comic strip) < 1467938580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from various mentions of IPA < 1467938624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the international phonetic alphabet have to do with beer? < 1467938624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What happens if I don't drink anything carbonated? < 1467938638 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: shared acronyms. < 1467938638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all three of them incompatible with me? < 1467938649 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1467938655 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the ginger beer I'm having isn't carbonated < 1467938661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No bubbles? < 1467938664 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The brewing hipsters you refer to, are most likely using the word "ale" properly. < 1467938681 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no bubbles, just a hell of a lot of ginger, < 1467938706 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ale" as traditionally used is "beer brewed with a warm fermentation method". < 1467938731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ingefærøl (også kjent under det engelske navnet Ginger beer) er en øl som ble oppfunnet på 1700-tallet i England." < 1467938766 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak Norwegian but that is definitely the first line of a wikipedia article < 1467938774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: correct. < 1467938806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't really meant to be understood, just tasted. < 1467938839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, to sort of indicate that ginger beer might be what norwegians have heard of. < 1467938914 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes make ginger beer myself < 1467938957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you basically mix ginger powder with hot water and stir, then chill it < 1467938966 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add sugar < 1467939068 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also use fresh ginger but that's a lot of work < 1467939086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well sure. it's just not a native norwegian word, is all. < 1467939109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it's obviously cognate to øl, which means _both_ ale and beer.) < 1467939204 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467939219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am guessing what \oren\ just said would be severe trolling on an actual brewing forum. < 1467939223 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion[1] < 1467939239 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah. < 1467939243 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, undoubtably < 1467939248 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why English makes the distinction. < 1467939257 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38fb:b6db:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1467939306 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, could be a North vs. West Germanic thing. < 1467939325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1467939345 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have heard that they used to serve beer hot < 1467939383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ack < 1467939386 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd make sense for why English would have both, then. It's kinda got a handful of weird North Germanic loans strewn throughout. < 1467939387 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cervoise < 1467939435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wiktionary doesn't think it's borrowed. < 1467939453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to increase confusion, german Öl means oil hth < 1467939453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? go < 1467939474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1467939481 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, Wiktionary thinks it's entirely native. < 1467939485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a Taneb Germanic thing. < 1467939500 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: apparently nintendo just released a game called Pokémon Go < 1467939515 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or just announced, whatever) < 1467939525 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also that Norwegian also has a cognate for "beer", "bjor". (which appears to be not at all common?) < 1467939538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bring me a good brain, or Mr. Pokeylope becomes Mr. Smokeylope! < 1467939561 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: Released. < 1467939564 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :) < 1467939649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Did you hear they're making Psychonauts 2? < 1467939666 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1467939672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: afaik i've never heard of the norwegian bjor. < 1467939679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Estimated delivery Q3 2018. < 1467939684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it'll probably be out by 2020? < 1467939704 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So it clearly is either obscure or theoretical. < 1467939706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :icelandic seems to have both bjór and öl. < 1467939720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i'd guess very dialectical < 1467939724 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plausible. < 1467939796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually in wiktionary, which just redirects to bjór < 1467939832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also they're making another Psychonauts game, exclusively for PS4 VR. < 1467939861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychonauts was too good < 1467939932 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i paid quite a bit into the crowdfund for it < 1467939954 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember if it was enough to get my name into it, but i was eager to see it happen < 1467940094 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychonauts was good, I dunno if they're really going to make another good game though. < 1467940125 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've not been a fan of Double Fine's recent output. < 1467940131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been fine. < 1467940139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whih isn't up to their usual standard. < 1467940381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it figuring out what to do with your life day in the channel today < 1467940391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION logreading
< 1467940465 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh never mind, int-e went on to bikeshedding. < 1467940555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe you can think of a good pun involving "bicyclic monoid" < 1467940900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. only horrible half-associations. < 1467941371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467941606 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1467941683 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467941763 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1467943994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467945167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :[Rated ꙮ] The intradisciplinary hub of solidarity matrices, esoteric programming language design, multichannel bot abuse (always safe, sane and consensual), and font forging (dangerous and potentially illegal) | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1467945482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꙮ < 1467945488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O] < 1467945551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much < 1467945560 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1467945567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The intradisciplinary hub of solidity matrices and esoteric programming language design and deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1467945568 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is experimenting with new crypto algorithms for https < 1467945578 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :designed to be impermeable to quantum computers < 1467945602 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :they picked an algorithm called new hope < 1467945614 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the paper describing it has 0 instances of the string "death star" so I lost interest < 1467945644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about "peace moon" < 1467945674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(chaf < 1467945704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's no... wait... < 1467945708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's no star? < 1467945724 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38fb:b6db:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467945727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, shouldn't it be "life moon"? Because !death is life; peace is !war < 1467945732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then again, war is peace...) < 1467945746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i conclude you don't get the reference hth < 1467945752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(war=x, x=-x, x=0, war=peace=0, QED) < 1467945759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't? < 1467945768 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see < 1467945923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it is in the nature the topic to expand and collapse. just like a star. < 1467945927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of the topic < 1467946016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: it's ok then can use the name death star when they find a quantum algorithm that breaks it anyway. < 1467946020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they < 1467946034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what in the world is wrong with my brain these days. < 1467946225 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ꙮ < 1467946228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮ is the official Unicode character of #esoteric. < 1467946279 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467946400 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 〿 < 1467946401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​〿? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467946463 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wouldn't that have to be called "second death star"? < 1467946840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER < 1467946863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball wouldn't that have to be called "second death star"? < 1467946868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reply hazy try again. < 1467946882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: NOT SURE < 1467947566 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467948201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're doing it wrong < 1467948212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing what wrong. < 1467948219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You aren't unsure, the 8B just didn't work the first time < 1467948227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball what am i doing wrong? < 1467948230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a random number generator that reads from a file. Make your own damn decisions. < 1467948244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1467948254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you try to load a webpage and just get the HTML skeleton, you don't give up, you reload < 1467948264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE < 1467948268 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball wouldn't that have to be called "second death star"? < 1467948269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Signs point to yes. < 1467948282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: after some thought, i agree hth < 1467948823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the name for the type of website which http://ponycountdown.com/ is? < 1467948838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the utility side- in this case, counting down to ponies < 1467948854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, a site that is rife with secrets and easter eggs that are there to amuse a visitor < 1467949148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I explain to someone that no, I'm not texting them the password over Google Hangouts, that's not safe AND I can't delete it after < 1467949385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me. i don't think it's possible to explains things to someone who isn't ready for it. < 1467949392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1467949397 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT BRAIN < 1467949580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not possible to explains thing < 1467949819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit dallas < 1467949882 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/TwfCFjxE the parable of the liberal anglosaxon capitalist professor and analytical philosopher who taught a class on bertrand russel < 1467949909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467949923 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in dallas two cops were shot while monitoring a protest < 1467950707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467951779 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you watching the dallas thing? < 1467951791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What dallas thing? < 1467951801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google dallas thing < 1467951810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to connect to socket 2. \ \ Looking up 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Making HTTP connection to 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Sending HTTP request. \ HTTP request sent; waiting for response. \ Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. \ Can't Access `http://google.com/search?q=%64%61%6c%6c%61%73%20%74%68%69%6e%67' \ Alert!: Unable to access document. < 1467951813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google dallas thing < 1467951814 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g55711-Activities-Dallas_Texas.html < 1467951900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: DPD officers getting shot down at a protest? < 1467952711 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there were snipers on top of a building and they shot ten officers, three dead. < 1467952748 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/were/are/ possibly. < 1467952760 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The situation remains uncertain. < 1467952764 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1467952787 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching the Clinton email fbi/senate hearing when it cut to Dallas < 1467952812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.855e+44 planck time flat < 1467953153 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdh < 1467953233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're the master of webcomics, correct? < 1467953275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when. < 1467953329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I seem to remember someone asking if you read every webcomic on the internet < 1467953339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty big no. < 1467953350 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1467953358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well to anyone who knows < 1467953379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading Dinosaur Comics and looking for a complete list of easter eggs therein. Anyone know where I could find this? < 1467953400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wild guess: there's a wiki somewhere? < 1467953437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I hope so, but I can't find it < 1467953440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't read Dinosaur Comics, although he _does_ read Dinosaur Whiteboard.
< 1467953445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look for that < 1467953464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's not a relevant suggestion btw) < 1467953518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you read Super Mega Comics? < 1467953529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1467953549 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay one-sided die, who is the number one loser? < 1467953566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a one-sided die? < 1467953568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sphere? < 1467953612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it's a deformed mobius strip < 1467953615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or a monostable polyhedron < 1467953624 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are polyhedra that are only stable on one face < 1467953630 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you place them on any other, they'll roll onto the one stable face < 1467953641 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=382 < 1467953667 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when used as a die, it'd always land in the same orientation around every axis but the axis of symmetry of the table < 1467953685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that was linked the other day. < 1467953688 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, the table's surface < 1467953688 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the table is flat < 1467953737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1467953743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find a wiki < 1467953755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reminded of the gömböc
< 1467953772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sounds like an opportunity hth < 1467953783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should start a startup < 1467953784 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=429 < 1467953796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an enddown, anyway? < 1467953840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCAg5_vHFmI < 1467953853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google super mega double damage < 1467953855 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=333 < 1467953855 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: SUPER MEGA COMICS < 1467953896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: did you kickstarter the super mega book kickstarter < 1467953909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to be tg < 1467953929 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually realise that it happened until it was over < 1467954254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Ryan North is the current author of Marvel's Squirrel Girl comic < 1467956161 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1467956837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say it's possible to build a time machine < 1467956858 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can only send messages- not physical material (obviously, you can assemble something with the information in the message- but that's it) < 1467956910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We know how to build a receiver, but a transmitter is trickier (we lack the precision to make one work with current technology, but we may figure it out in the future) < 1467956923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a scientist builds a receiver to confirm that it works < 1467956931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he records the moment of activation < 1467957010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If, the moment he turns it on, he- dependent on the exact design- either (a) receives several thousand messages, primarily from smart middle schoolers doing a science project or (b) gets nothing because it's all jammed by abnormally high amounts of phlebon particles < 1467957013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We know it worked < 1467957020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he doesn't get the message, we know it didn't work < 1467957117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, girl genius is late < 1467957129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hasn't happened in a while. < 1467957172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "late". i'm not sure what its official schedule is. < 1467957182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's usually up by now. < 1467957244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if his recording computer gets a buffer flow and suddenly contains an AI taking over the world, we also (briefly) know it worked. < 1467957252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*overflow < 1467957270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1467957278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just channeling some yudkowsky here) < 1467957279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course, who wrote the AI? < 1467957297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itself hth < 1467957299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously, nobody; the AI is part of a stable time loop and the one that arrives is likely itself) < 1467957324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MK/JV < 1467957333 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1467957356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1467957365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MK/JV? < 1467957375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, not sure < 1467957388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you see that? < 1467957415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um above, in your message. < 1467957419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's always nice when a WP citation leads to a 404 < 1467957426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than a 451, at least < 1467957447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :451 THE DATA CENTRE IS ON FIRE < 1467957451 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1467957467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ALSO, ALL THE PAPER, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING TO IGNITE IT < 1467957475 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1467957570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who ran the world's shortest marathon? < 1467957782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno but iirc the question isn't quite trivial as the length wasn't entirely standardized initially. < 1467957793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right, crap < 1467957813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose marathons may vary by over a femtometer in length < 1467957833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a pretty good assumption. < 1467957853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does temperature undergo relativistic effects? < 1467957941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. are you reading this from some list. < 1467958001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1467958029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's a pretty subtle question, anyway. probably requiring thinking about entropy. < 1467958061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If thursday is the new friday, how are other days of the week affected? < 1467958120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously impossible to answer. < 1467958129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do we need a `ngglist? < 1467958140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ngg < 1467958154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1467958160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why n < 1467958172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: n = not < 1467958173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or no < 1467958187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that would be pretty redundant hth < 1467958191 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Presumably, ngglist notifies you when girl genius fails to come out on time < 1467958216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1467958264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( They should make special "Students' Calculators" which are awesome- you enter a full equation and it gives you the result- but it only does the math for you if it's hard enough that you shouldn't just do it yourself ) < 1467958330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked wolfram|alpha for "smallest integer greater than 1" < 1467958333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It told me it was 1 < 1467958336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wept for humanity < 1467958379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why weep, the AIs will never destroy us when they're this stupid hth < 1467958797 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, it's just a off-by-one error < 1467958839 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it may be a trick to make you feel better < 1467958959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY < 1467959474 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :punny xkcd < 1467959913 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1467960376 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :451 page censored < 1467961112 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467963467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gg up now. < 1467963498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tg < 1467963552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much glory to the hypnotoad? < 1467963890 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1467964944 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467965419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467965568 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just had the chance to write this super clear line of code printf(currformat, *argv && **argv == '\'' ? *++*argv++ : strtoll(*argv++, NULL, 10)); < 1467966353 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467966430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: perfectly clear! < 1467966472 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing either a ' followed by a char literal, or a decimal number, and at the same time, advancing to the next argument < 1467966503 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1467966583 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf %d \'a 72 < 1467966591 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does this < 1467966602 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9772 < 1467966735 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/izabera/inutility/blob/master/src/printf.c < 1467966745 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace all your busyboxes with inutilities < 1467967026 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it compiles down to less than 40kb with -Os < 1467969742 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467970072 0 :JenElizabeth8!~jenelizab@cpc76804-brmb10-2-0-cust651.1-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467970999 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:10be:67e9:3025:233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1467971116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Kite < 1467972801 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1467973503 0 :feliks!Uayvy6u8b2@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1467973709 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know this? < 1467973711 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :close(0) = 0 < 1467973713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :open("/dev/stdin", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) < 1467973777 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm dumb < 1467973791 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course /dev/stdin is still there but it's a symlink to /proc/self/fd/0 which doesn't exist < 1467974003 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467974398 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you almost never want to close the standard handles. it can take you to bad situations when a library function very deep in your program either opens something and it gets their fd number, or a library function assumes stderr is valid and prints an error message there. < 1467974416 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :okok < 1467974450 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1467974452 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: instead, open the new handle you want with open or socket or any other function, prepare it, then dup2 it to replace the fd of the standard handles, and then close the alias. < 1467974476 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you can reopen the standard handles to anything new. < 1467974507 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooor... i could just add this one line check < 1467974842 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467974953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I forgot to do this: < 1467974969 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bardsworthlist 2016-07-07 < 1467975009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bardsworthlist 2016-07-07: b_jonas < 1467975033 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467975067 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1467975093 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467975504 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467975784 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467975969 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, SGDQ is great < 1467976157 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is.. but I'll miss part of the kirby/mario block tonight :< < 1467976168 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not tonight.. later today < 1467976171 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can watch later < 1467976182 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1467976197 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't watch anything live, I just watch everything later, on youtube or later if the temp encodes are botched < 1467976212 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like lots of the temp encodes in the early mario block were broken, so I'll have to try to watch those later < 1467976477 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1467976785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sadly sometimes the final videos on archive are broken too, when information was lost during recording, but they're at least better) < 1467977783 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467978520 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467978908 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467979461 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:41d1:aa3d:6d4b:f53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467979782 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:41d1:aa3d:6d4b:f53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1467980366 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467980651 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467980737 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467980842 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FLATPACK CHICKEN < 1467982021 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh em gee https://my.fsf.org/donate/ "ThankGNU!" < 1467982041 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat https://www.fsf.org/associate/car/ < 1467982268 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1467983912 0 :JenElizabeth8!~jenelizab@cpc76804-brmb10-2-0-cust651.1-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467984249 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467985195 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1467985813 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1467986424 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 JOIN :#esoteric < 1467986429 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/nhLZ5spo this somehow bothers me < 1467986449 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + 2 + 3 + ... = 1 + (1 + 1) + (1 + 1 + 1) + ... = 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 < 1467986467 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sum_inf(i) == sum_inf(1) < 1467986503 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1467986506 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :both are divergent < 1467986589 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 0 = (1 - 1) + (1 - 1) + ... = 1 - (1 - 1) - (1 - 1) - ... = 1 <-- much quicker. < 1467986614 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 0 = 1 is worng < 1467986616 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wrong < 1467986617 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the message is simply that you cannot arbitrarily manipulate infinite sums. < 1467986620 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1467986640 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I shift S by appending a zero I don't change it's value < 1467986642 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1467986647 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can do it with absolutely convergent series and that's basically it) < 1467986648 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have a value < 1467986660 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so S - S_shifted should actually be zero < 1467986664 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1467986666 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it also equals 1+1+1 < 1467986672 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're assuming that the sum of S is a number < 1467986674 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1467986711 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b038:5fd4:44e:d38b JOIN :#esoteric < 1467986714 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guys claiming it's -1/12 surely also assume it's a number < 1467986715 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't apply commutativity of addition because you're working with infinite sums < 1467986742 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the -1/12 thing is in a very specific, restricted sense though < 1467986752 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Okay, let's refute it with bogus reasoning: The partial sums of S and the shifted S are different, e.g., (1 + 2 + 3 + 4) - (0 + 1 + 2 + 3) = 4... so why would the whole sum turn out to be the same? < 1467986797 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong reasoning leads to unpredictable answers. < 1467986803 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1467986990 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1467986995 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b038:5fd4:44e:d38b QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1467987002 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to me it makes about as much sense as assigning it -1/12 < 1467987013 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ignore the -1/12 thing < 1467987020 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though -1/12 seems to be accepted so it's probably the more correct interpretations of things < 1467987023 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know *why* < 1467987032 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -1/12 is not accepted < 1467987048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an elaborate prank < 1467987051 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -1/12 comes from a very specific type of summation < 1467987061 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeta function, yadayada < 1467987091 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ramanujan summation < 1467987490 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww watch numberphile to learn maths < 1467989826 0 :JenElizabeth8!~jenelizab@cpc76804-brmb10-2-0-cust651.1-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467989961 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random < 1467989972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? random < 1467989976 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1467990092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang//Sgeolang used to change frequently, but eventually it rusted in place. < 1467990092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467990093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1467990139 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.88 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1467990715 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :only >2 min lag < 1467991009 0 :feliks!T2jp6V3Aox@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1467993458 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the MOD format is mostly documented, and then there's the timing information, which the document I looked at was quite vague about. < 1467993533 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it revolves around a tick, and ticks occur at (BPM / 2.5)hz < 1467993575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mod < 1467993591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1467993683 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the document I looked at: http://www.aes.id.au/modformat.html < 1467993744 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically keep the bit I said above about tick=(BPM / 2.5)hz in mind when looking at the [15]: Set speed effect, since otherwise you'll have trouble figuring out what a "tick" actually is, even though things like slides use them < 1467993964 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467994272 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1467994582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1467995320 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1467999130 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1467999631 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468000580 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468000599 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468000613 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468001019 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468001725 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468001860 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468001929 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1468001937 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468001987 0 :LKoen_!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468002159 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468003351 0 :LKoen_!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468003538 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468003732 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8cfe:bc26:9878:8954 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468004649 0 :feliks!T2jp6V3Aox@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468005009 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468005290 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-96-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468005402 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600 did print my letter. < 1468005601 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468005914 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1468005929 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468005991 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468006069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What letter? < 1468006208 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says: Don't use ligature/smart-quotation-mark inside of fixpitch text! (Ligature/smart-quotation-mark should be used only on variable pitch text please) < 1468006250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said I didn't add the appropriate amount of commans and periods in this request but id they they will keep an eye out for them < 1468006273 0 :feliks!yXv08a4YEe@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1468006466 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...send a specific-use-of-characters-y letter, and you get a specific-use-of-characters-y response, I guess. < 1468007358 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468007428 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468007616 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468007954 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had problems recently with spamert quotation marks showing up in JSON < 1468007970 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because apple are idiots < 1468008008 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who subsitute quotes with smart quotes when you copypaste text from one window to anohter < 1468008012 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :spamert -> smart ? < 1468008026 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/spamert/smart < 1468008165 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially, somehow “ ” ended up in our code becuas eof copypasta < 1468008223 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens all the time in #bash ^^ < 1468008479 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468008655 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1468008898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to alter this function? < 1468009033 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`free < 1468009065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ total used free shared buffers cached \ Mem: 249752 6940 242812 0 0 3264 \ -/+ buffers/cache: 3676 246076 \ Swap: 0 0 0 < 1468009066 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` df | grep ^/ < 1468009068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory < 1468009846 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl warn +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++$a; < 1468009848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open perl script "warn +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++$a;": No such file or directory < 1468009854 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -ewarn +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++$a; < 1468009855 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't modify preincrement (++) in preincrement (++) at -e line 1, near "$a;" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1468010066 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468010763 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The front cover of this issue of 2600 has a picture of a telephone dial with 11 on it. < 1468010805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.xkcd.com/670/ ? < 1468010811 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more like an xkcd phone? < 1468010818 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Hotel Pennsylvania have a telephone like that? < 1468012438 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :DTMF tones go up to D. < 1468012471 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0..9, *, #, A..D) < 1468012709 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not really their "natural" order, but even there D would be highest.) < 1468012818 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1468012925 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the natural order starts with 1..9, right? < 1468012937 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, that's pulse < 1468012939 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not dtmf < 1468012959 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some simple natural orders would be 123A456B789C*0#D and 147*2580369#ABCD. Others could be devised. < 1468012966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468013024 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :14275*38609AB#CD, for example. < 1468013037 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"simple"... "natural"... < 1468013070 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, if you look at the "natural" orders in groups of 4, it *kind of* makes sense? < 1468013106 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that DTMF is like that, but the picture is a rotary dial and it goes up to eleven, instead of just ten like other telephones < 1468013223 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Those three were, respectively, sorting by the low frequency as the first and the high frequency as the second key, the other way around, and by the average of the two frequencies. < 1468013245 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The first two are also the row-major and column-major readings of the typical keypad, for obvious reasons.) < 1468013250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contrary to popular belief, wales actually is represented on the Union Jack < 1468013256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just behind all 3 other flags < 1468013265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't see any part of it < 1468013275 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met a Welsh person the other night. < 1468013275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because nobody cares about Wales < 1468013280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, fuck Wales < 1468013289 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they'd disagree with the sentiment. < 1468013329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, well, they don't count, because they're welsh < 1468013332 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a call to order for anyone Welsh. Please voice your anti-hppavilion[1] sentiments, should you have any after the above comment. Sincerely, an Englishman. < 1468013380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then again, there is a fairly easy way to put Wales on the union jack- the top half remains the same, but the Scottish blue on the bottom becomes Welsh green) < 1468013402 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the houses hereabouts (in London) had a sticker in the window saying something like "Proud to be Scots, Delighted to be United". < 1468013411 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judging from wear and tear, it predated the 'xit. < 1468013424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Which `xit? < 1468013427 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bre. < 1468013429 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brexit or... scexit? < 1468013430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468013434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`xit < 1468013437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: xit: not found < 1468013442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brexit < 1468013443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: brexit: not found < 1468013447 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?brexit < 1468013447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?brexit: not found < 1468013450 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brexit < 1468013451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brexit is a command to forcefully exit, releasing 1GB of free space. < 1468013458 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that changed < 1468013460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1468013463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's amazing. < 1468013465 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottishpoliticalarchive/15264219953 <- might even have been this one. < 1468013466 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's better < 1468013470 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it refers to brk < 1468013486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, I want to go share that < 1468013499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I reflexively went to open irc to tell the people on #esoteric that joke < 1468013504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I remembered irc is open < 1468013507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm in #esoteric < 1468013582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip, the memory inhibitors broke again half-way through < 1468013589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an old joke anyway. < 1468013591 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION contacts the engineer who designed the things
< 1468013594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was on Twitter before it was here. < 1468013638 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has new memory inhibitors fitted into hppavilion[1]
< 1468014094 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468014615 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468015544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Northern Ireland doesn't really have its own flag < 1468015611 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canada < 1468015621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big. < 1468015659 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if we had a border wall < 1468015672 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to keep americans and their guns out < 1468015741 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1468015746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this//this is a word < 1468015747 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1468015751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concerted Effort \ 2WW \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of each upkeep, creatures you control gain flying until end of turn if a creature you control has flying. The same is true for fear, first strike, double strike, landwalk, protection, trample, and vigilance. \ RAV-R < 1468015752 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1468015756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whom//See: who < 1468015988 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468016037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? who < 1468016039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares about ancient cases anyway? < 1468016052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? him < 1468016053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :him? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468016060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn him/See: he < 1468016067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «him» < 1468016071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? he < 1468016073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468016158 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wall < 1468016161 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wall? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468016182 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the walls have more than just < 1468016237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Seychelles is the buzzwordiest flag I've ever seen < 1468016321 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they redesign their flag to match the logo of the ruling party < 1468016330 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess they need a new flag every time a different party wins? < 1468016422 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: doesn't seem much more buzzwordy than the wicket gate. the wooden pillar represents nature and misticism, the perspex pillar represents the power of science, the iron pillar represents the military strength of the Empire, the golden bail represents the prosperity of the Empire, the silver bail represents I don't remember what < 1468016433 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe wisdom knows < 1468016437 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wikket gate < 1468016439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikket gate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468016849 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1468017339 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Wikkit Gate < 1468017342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikkit Gate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468017602 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Steel Pillar stands for the strength and power of befunge, the Wooden Pillar for the Nature and Spirituality of brainfuck, the Perspex Pillar for the Science and Reason of underload, the Golden Bail for the Prosperity of intercal, and the Silver Bail for the Peace of unlambda, or something. < 1468017616 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Possibly a different party never wins. < 1468017637 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's happened several times already, with a flag change each time < 1468017673 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: did they change the look of the flag, or only the explanation behind it? < 1468017813 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the look too < 1468017879 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1468017911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Are you trying to explain the #esoteric flag? < 1468017936 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we have a flag? I thought we only had a secret handshake < 1468017952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Who told you about the secret handshake? < 1468017955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blæg < 1468017956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blaeg is a color that cannot exist under the current understanding of physics. It is used on the #esoteric flag, along with ultraviolet and whatever is convenient. It is a nullary color, meaning that it can be mixed with itself to produce the primary colors. < 1468017963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits blæg < 1468017967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits blæg < 1468017975 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nobody told me, cause it's a secret < 1468017980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? member < 1468017984 0 :JenElizabeth8!~jenelizab@cpc76804-brmb10-2-0-cust651.1-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468017991 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1468017996 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the flag have octarine? < 1468018000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468018003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. < 1468018005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1468018005 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to look but I don't see it < 1468018021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep member wisdom < 1468018032 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't prove anything < 1468018034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: No, but you can mix nullary to get octarine I presume < 1468018034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/me:Me is a proud member of the tEaM. \ wisdom/interpreter:An interpreter (Latin "inter-", Old French "prestre") is unofficial correspondence between ordained members of the Church. \ wisdom/member:I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to k < 1468018127 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boot < 1468018129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468018132 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l member wisdom < 1468018134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/me \ wisdom/interpreter \ wisdom/member \ wisdom/oerjan \ wisdom/amortized < 1468018135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canadian < 1468018136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468018144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /dev/null < 1468018145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468018147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you all taking a break suddenly? < 1468018150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no tea in team. < 1468018159 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468018163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1468018171 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1468018184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: We're discussing the flag of #esoteric < 1468018191 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1468018194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's 4-dimensional, too) < 1468018207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, if we lived in a 4D universe, we'd revolve around the sun in a torus shape < 1468018221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*orbit < 1468018325 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd revolve around an orbit? < 1468018342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you here? < 1468018342 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's a machine that looks like you! no matter what the price! it is, you idiot! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered! < 1468018353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnugot < 1468018374 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1468018421 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellob_jonas! < 1468018434 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whence the wobprefix? < 1468018435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1468018438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tranquil Path \ 4G \ Sorcery \ Destroy all enchantments. \ Draw a card. \ AP-C < 1468018450 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Draw a card?! < 1468018454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cantrips are the best. < 1468018461 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mass enchantment destruction doesn't normally cost 5 < 1468018468 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the situation with enchantments is weird < 1468018471 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not necessarily? < 1468018475 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cantrips are annoyingly efficient. < 1468018476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Isn't it just a wo prefix? < 1468018483 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally they're relatively rarely used, and thus nobody plays cards to destroy them < 1468018489 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's because this is a wob-based irc client < 1468018496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, but boily was talking about a wo bprefix. < 1468018498 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can normally assume that they're going to be pretty secure against destruction < 1468018503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where a bprefix is a prefix for b_jonas. < 1468018508 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but cards that do destroy them tend to be crazily cheap and efficient < 1468018513 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they only really work if nobody expects you to be using them < 1468018523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's what sideboards are for. < 1468018533 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never played with a sideboard. < 1468018536 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ah, you're chitting on the wob. < 1468018541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in drafts, I guess. < 1468018542 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(right now, Dromoka's Command is a widely played card, and it happens to get rid of enchantments while being useful against non-enchantment decks, and thus enchantments are almost unplayable) < 1468018553 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's our command for card stats? < 1468018559 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi i'm woll smoth! < 1468018564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*card* < 1468018569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/card-by-name \ bin/random-card < 1468018569 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho\\oron\! < 1468018572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Dromoka's < 1468018574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dromoka's Command \ GW \ Instant \ Choose two -- \ · Prevent all damage target instant or sorcery spell would deal this turn. \ · Target player sacrifices an enchantment. \ · Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature. \ · Target creature you control fights target creature you don't control. \ DTK-R \ \ Dromoka's Gift \ 4G \ Instant \ Bolster 4. (Choo < 1468018584 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card Dromoka's < 1468018586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dromoka's Gift \ 4G \ Instant \ Bolster 4. (Choose a creature with the least toughness among creatures you control and put four +1/+1 counters on it.) \ DTK-U < 1468018597 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card gain 10 life < 1468018599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tower of Eons \ 4 \ Artifact \ {8}, {T}: You gain 10 life. \ MRD-R < 1468018620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about in -- was it Theros? < 1468018623 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card shuffle your.*into.*graveyard < 1468018625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468018625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With all the enchantment creatures? < 1468018633 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card shuffle your.*into.*library < 1468018635 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green Sun's Zenith \ XG \ Sorcery \ Search your library for a green creature card with converted mana cost X or less, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. Shuffle Green Sun's Zenith into its owner's library. \ MBS-R, V13-M < 1468018642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Legendary Enchantment Creature -- God < 1468018657 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in Theros anti-enchantment cards got printed the blocks before and after instead < 1468018667 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name erase < 1468018668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erase \ W \ Instant \ Exile target enchantment. \ UL-C, M13-C, KTK-C \ \ Erase (Not the Urza's Legacy One) \ 2W \ Instant \ If you control two or more white permanents that share an artist, you may play Erase (Not the Urza's Legacy One) without paying its mana cost. \ Remove target enchantment from the game. \ UNH-C < 1468018675 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card shuffle ixir(?s:.*)your.*into.*library < 1468018677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468018678 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :M13 and KTK, see < 1468018697 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: there's a better one than that, Quiet Purity < 1468018702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did people play enchantment creatures in Theros constructed? < 1468018716 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, although the fact they were enchantments was mostly irrelevant < 1468018724 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name carven caryatid < 1468018726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carven Caryatid \ 1GG \ Creature -- Spirit \ 2/5 \ Defender (This creature can't attack.) \ When Carven Caryatid enters the battlefield, draw a card. \ RAV-U < 1468018731 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, I thought that was an enchantmnet < 1468018739 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's a lot of choice in efficient enchantment destruction, I have lots of different cards for it < 1468018743 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my first guess was wrong! < 1468018744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erase is too good. < 1468018753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name wear // tear < 1468018754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wear // Tear \ 1R // W \ Instant // Instant \ Destroy target artifact. \ Fuse (You may cast one or both halves of this card from your hand.) // Destroy target enchantment. \ Fuse (You may cast one or both halves of this card from your hand.) \ DGM-U < 1468018766 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Quiet Purity < 1468018767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quiet Purity \ W \ Instant -- Arcane \ Destroy target enchantment. \ CHK-C < 1468018771 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Enchanted Evening < 1468018772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchanted Evening \ 3(w/u)(w/u) \ Enchantment \ All permanents are enchantments in addition to their other types. \ SHM-R < 1468018782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wear//tear is eternal playable < 1468018801 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that card might be good if it cost 4 < 1468018817 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :costing 5 means it's probably not going to be good enough to make competitive decks < 1468018838 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious combo is with opalescence, preventing anyone playing lands ever and destroying all those that exist < 1468018852 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card when.*turned face up.*destroy target.*enchantment < 1468018854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daru Sanctifier \ 3W \ Creature -- Human Cleric \ 1/4 \ Morph {1}{W} (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for {3}. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.) \ When Daru Sanctifier is turned face up, destroy target enchantment. \ LGN-C < 1468018860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name opalescence < 1468018861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opalescence \ 2WW \ Enchantment \ Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature in addition to its other types and has base power and base toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. \ UD-R < 1468018868 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? that's not the one I was thinking of < 1468018896 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card G$(?s:.*)face up.*destroy target.*enchantment < 1468018898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nantuko Vigilante \ 3G \ Creature -- Insect Druid Mutant \ 3/2 \ Morph {1}{G} (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for {3}. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.) \ When Nantuko Vigilante is turned face up, destroy target artifact or enchantment. \ LGN-C < 1468018901 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, yes < 1468018906 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should add a variant of card-by-name and random-card that omits reminder text. < 1468018916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I guess ais523game doesn't have timestamps like mtg? < 1468018926 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: feel free to just modify random-card even with that name < 1468018948 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1468018949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/random-card < 1468018951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' -- "$1" < 1468018955 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card \bshadow\b(?s:.*)destroy target.*enchantment < 1468018958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soltari Visionary \ 1WW \ Creature -- Soltari Cleric \ 2/2 \ Shadow (This creature can block or be blocked by only creatures with shadow.) \ Whenever Soltari Visionary deals damage to a player, destroy target enchantment that player controls. \ EX-C < 1468018975 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty strong hoser too < 1468018981 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unles sthere's a lot of shadow in the block < 1468018983 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously such that you don't break the history) < 1468018990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name trygon predator < 1468018991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trygon Predator \ 1GU \ Creature -- Beast \ 2/3 \ Flying \ Whenever Trygon Predator deals combat damage to a player, you may destroy target artifact or enchantment that player controls. \ DIS-U, MMA-U, C15-U < 1468018995 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ vintage playable < 1468019007 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searches should also ignore reminder text < 1468019019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like reminder text. < 1468019026 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without it I wouldn't have known what Shadow does. < 1468019027 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not really, if you want to find all cards that gain you 1 life, you'd want to find extort cards too < 1468019037 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, searches should find reminder text even if it isn't on the card < 1468019044 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card extort < 1468019048 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pontiff of Blight \ 4BB \ Creature -- Zombie Cleric \ 2/7 \ Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay {(w/b)}. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.) \ Other creatures you control have extort. (If a creature has multiple instances of extort, each triggers separately.) \ DGM-R, C14-R < 1468019061 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then maybe you should make a modified copy of the card database file, then modify the two commands to use that file instead of the current file < 1468019119 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes, that is I suggested to do different commands. (Although, it does not necessarily have to be another copy; the program could remove reminder text at runtime instead; I don't know what is better) < 1468019120 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8cfe:bc26:9878:8954 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1468019159 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think another copy would be better, because we may want to add more commands, and that would make it easier < 1468019185 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes that would, but would it waste disk space? < 1468019201 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of card I made up: Untap all Horrors. Remove all marked damage from all Horrors. Remove all Horrors from combat. Remove alll counters from all Horrors. Return all permanents attached to Horrors to their owner's hand. Counter all spells and abilities that target a Horror. Counter all other Horror spells. Horrors cannot attack this turn. < 1468019202 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although don't forget that we have to repeat the conversion whenever the card database is updated < 1468019214 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: runtime conversion for searching would waste cpu, I think that's worse < 1468019223 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Ah, OK then. < 1468019234 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`du share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1468019236 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1468019257 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` du -a share/mtg < 1468019259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :696 share/mtg/All Sets-2016-04-08.zip \ 3048 share/mtg/allsets-2016-04-08.txt \ 0 share/mtg/MagicCompRules.txt \ 0 share/mtg/allsets.txt \ 632 share/mtg/rules.txt \ 636 share/mtg/MagicCompRules_20160408.txt \ 5016 share/mtg < 1468019263 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Database update could be done as another script though possibly, which will automatically do the conversion too. < 1468019276 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's a symlink < 1468019282 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -ld share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1468019283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1468019287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -ld share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1468019290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 22 May 8 19:59 share/mtg/allsets.txt -> allsets-2016-04-08.txt < 1468019302 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` du share/mtg/allsets-2016-04-08.txt < 1468019303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3048 share/mtg/allsets-2016-04-08.txt < 1468019308 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 megabytes < 1468019348 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, although we have to issue the fetch as a separate bot command, some scripts can still help < 1468019406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes a script could just do the conversion I suppose independent of the fetch < 1468019423 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey LOOK! < 1468019429 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Eldritch Moon release notes are out < 1468019433 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check the fuse rules < 1468019439 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, let me see too < 1468019440 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to be crazy to make that work < 1468019444 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/eldritch-moon-release-notes-2016-07-08 < 1468019462 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which `` < 1468019465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`` < 1468019469 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and let's find out what Gift of Immortality on a fused creature does! < 1468019482 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, find even more broken cases < 1468019492 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you help here with the rules stuff? < 1468019493 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat $(which "``") < 1468019504 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1468019511 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :melded creature. molded. or something < 1468019512 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fused < 1468019524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468019545 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468019564 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/`` < 1468019567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$@" | rnooodl < 1468019580 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/` < 1468019581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1468019589 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1468019599 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468019644 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should've used ' not "
< 1468019677 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 712.4c says implies that the enchantment is returned enchanting "each" card, not "both" cards < 1468019694 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468019703 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so depending on the order you choose for the actions to happen in, you can make it enchant either half < 1468019703 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it said "both", then the enchantment would fail to return because "two creatures" doesn't match "enchant creature") < 1468019800 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A permanent can only be attached to a single player or object as far as I know, not more than one. < 1468019888 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name spellweaver volute < 1468019891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spellweaver Volute \ 3UU \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant instant card in a graveyard \ Whenever you cast a sorcery spell, copy the enchanted instant card. You may cast the copy without paying its mana cost. If you do, exile the enchanted card and attach Spellweaver Volute to another instant card in a graveyard. \ FUT-R < 1468019896 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm < 1468019901 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was an "enchant two cards" enchantment < 1468019918 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "enchant instant card in a graveyard and sorcery card in a graveyard" < 1468019920 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1468019932 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468019949 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no way < 1468019965 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name enchant.*card.*and.*card < 1468019967 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe spellweaver volute was weird enough for them < 1468019967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468019985 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think the rules actually forbid that somewhere < 1468019988 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: "by-name"? < 1468019996 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card enchant.*card.*and.*card < 1468019998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puppet Master \ UUU \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ When enchanted creature dies, return that card to its owner's hand. If that card is returned to its owner's hand this way, you may pay {U}{U}{U}. If you do, return Puppet Master to its owner's hand. \ LE-U, CH-U < 1468019999 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, good catch < 1468020006 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^enchant.*card.*and.*card < 1468020008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468020017 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^enchant.*\band\b < 1468020018 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card enchant.*two < 1468020021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spectral Flight \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has flying. \ ISD-C < 1468020022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychic Overload \ 3U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant permanent \ When Psychic Overload enters the battlefield, tap enchanted permanent. \ Enchanted permanent doesn't untap during its controller's untap step. \ Enchanted permanent has "Discard two artifact cards: Untap this permanent." \ DST-U < 1468020032 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card enchant two < 1468020032 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^enchant\b.*card.*and.*card < 1468020046 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^enchant\b.*\btwo\b < 1468020052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468020052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468020053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468020067 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, I don't think the rules allow enchanting two objects or players < 1468020127 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I think I was thinking of spellweaver helix < 1468020134 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's double imprint, not double enchant < 1468020141 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name spellweaver helix < 1468020142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spellweaver Helix \ 3 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- When Spellweaver Helix enters the battlefield, you may exile two target sorcery cards from a single graveyard. \ Whenever a player casts a card, if it has the same name as one of the cards exiled with Spellweaver Helix, you may copy the other. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cos < 1468020154 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1468020235 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so which card do you think interacts in rule-wise crazy ways with meld? I'm thinking especially of something that exiles a permanent and then refers to it < 1468020249 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468020269 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that card that exiles a creature and makes token copies of it? < 1468020282 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does Invader Parasite behave? < 1468020286 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you'd get two tokens < 1468020316 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token copy of < 1468020317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468020319 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meld is now a way for an object to become two as it changes zones; puzzles could perhaps be made up that involve it! < 1468020321 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token copy < 1468020324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1468020327 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token.*copy < 1468020329 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soul Foundry \ 4 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- When Soul Foundry enters the battlefield, you may exile a creature card from your hand. \ {X}, {T}: Put a token that's a copy of the exiled card onto the battlefield. X is the converted mana cost of that card. \ MRD-R < 1468020336 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Exiles from the battlefield? < 1468020340 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token.*copy < 1468020341 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mimic Vat \ 3 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- Whenever a nontoken creature dies, you may exile that card. If you do, return each other card exiled with Mimic Vat to its owner's graveyard. \ {3}, {T}: Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of the exiled card. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. \ SOM-R < 1468020345 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think so < 1468020350 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though < 1468020359 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have been thinking of mimic vat < 1468020361 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or duplicant < 1468020363 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name duplicant < 1468020365 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duplicant \ 6 \ Artifact Creature -- Shapeshifter \ 2/4 \ Imprint -- When Duplicant enters the battlefield, you may exile target nontoken creature. \ As long as a card exiled with Duplicant is a creature card, Duplicant has the power, toughness, and creature types of the last creature card exiled with Duplicant. It's still a Shapeshifter. \ MRD-R, < 1468020371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Soul Foundry above? < 1468020380 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I wasn't thinking of that one < 1468020412 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, soul foundry exiles from your hand, that doesn't interact with meld at all because you can't have a melded card in your hand, not even momentarily < 1468020413 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468020433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even see your meld question. < 1468020596 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :712.4c If an effect can find the new object that a melded permanent becomes as it leaves the battlefield, it finds both cards. (See rule 400.7.) If that effect causes actions to be taken upon those cards, those actions are taken upon each of them. < 1468020674 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think that if it tries to become attached to both that it does both in sequence, and ends up attached to only one (but both are now in play); this is just a guess though and I am not exactly sure. < 1468021067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? replicant < 1468021068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replicant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468021176 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blade runner < 1468021178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blade runner? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468021180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blade jogger < 1468021181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blade jogger? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468021341 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468021356 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so suppose I have a Chittering Host (melded) permanent that happens to copy a land (say it's Cytoshaped) and choose to exile it to Extraplanar Lens. Then, does the lens look for lands that are named either Graf Rats or Midnight Scavengers (the two halves of that meld card)? Or does it look for lands that are named both Graf Rats and Midnight Sc < 1468021356 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avengers at the same time (probably impossible)? < 1468021445 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't tihnk you can find a land named Graf Rats without the use of Un-cards, at least if you're looking anywhere other than the battlefield < 1468021495 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the lens is looking on the battlefield < 1468021495 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468021501 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name extraplanar lens < 1468021503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extraplanar Lens \ 3 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- When Extraplanar Lens enters the battlefield, you may exile target land you control. \ Whenever a land with the same name as the exiled card is tapped for mana, its controller adds one mana to his or her mana pool of any type that land produced. \ MRD-R < 1468021514 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although even that way it might be impossible to get a land with that name, I dunno < 1468021556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, that's already got a ruling due to that card that copies triggered abilities < 1468021572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember what the ruling is but there's already a way to imprint two cards on a card that expects only one < 1468021572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes! < 1468021575 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rings < 1468021586 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name rings of brighthearth < 1468021587 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name rings of bri < 1468021588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rings of Brighthearth \ 3 \ Artifact \ Whenever you activate an ability, if it isn't a mana ability, you may pay {2}. If you do, copy that ability. You may choose new targets for the copy. \ LRW-R < 1468021590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rings of Brighthearth \ 3 \ Artifact \ Whenever you activate an ability, if it isn't a mana ability, you may pay {2}. If you do, copy that ability. You may choose new targets for the copy. \ LRW-R < 1468021598 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally < 1468021600 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's activated abilities < 1468021609 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one for triggered abilities too < 1468021609 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1468021625 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card copy.*triggered abilit < 1468021627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strionic Resonator \ 2 \ Artifact \ {2}, {T}: Copy target triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A triggered ability uses the words "when," "whenever," or "at.") \ M14-R < 1468021633 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1468021641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: When are the rules for ais523game being released? < 1468021645 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I remembered it when I saw the name < 1468021654 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, do you want just rules, or some example cards? < 1468021657 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing just the rules would be relatively easy < 1468021663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like both. < 1468021675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just the rules is surely better than nothing. < 1468021676 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to work out what I want in terms of a color pie, etc., though is harder < 1468021704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've wondered what a simple core set of rules for a game as flexible as mtg would be like. < 1468021748 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, one of my goals was to be able to implement an equivalent for most Magic cards whilst having simpler rules < 1468021755 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.oO(what if a meld permanent copies Blacker Lotus?) < 1468021772 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll start writing them down in a bit, it's all mental atm < 1468021796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are a lot of small details of old cards that require disproportionate attention and edge cases in the rules. < 1468021819 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you version control your mental ideas with your mental scapegoat? < 1468021822 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I said "most" not "all" < 1468021823 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, that was mean < 1468021824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: no < 1468021840 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1468021852 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up some newer custom Magic: the Gathering cards < 1468021885 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and new rules too for existing cards < 1468021910 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Chaos Confetti < 1468021912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaos Confetti \ 4 \ Artifact \ {4}, {T}: Tear Chaos Confetti into pieces. Throw the pieces onto the playing area from a distance of at least five feet. Destroy each card in play that a piece touches. Remove the pieces from the game afterwards. \ UG-C < 1468021920 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Chaos Orb < 1468021921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaos Orb \ 2 \ Artifact \ {1}, {T}: If Chaos Orb is on the battlefield, flip Chaos Orb onto the battlefield from a height of at least one foot. If Chaos Orb turns over completely at least once during the flip, destroy all nontoken permanents it touches. Then destroy Chaos Orb. \ A-R, B-R, U-R < 1468021932 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, such as deleting the "creatures can't be attached to anything" rule, and a modification to "bands with other" that as far as I can tell affects no existing combination of non-Un official cards anyways < 1468022029 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to make sure, in M:tG, we can already have two Power Taints enchanting each other, right? < 1468022044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Power Taint < 1468022046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power Taint \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant enchantment \ At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted enchantment's controller, that player loses 2 life unless he or she pays {2}. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ US-C < 1468022050 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get them into that state with Simic Guildmage < 1468022053 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1468022128 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Simic Guildmage the only way to achieve that? or can you just return two Power Taints onto the battlefield at the same time and choose to attach to each other? < 1468022155 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: replenish probably works < 1468022159 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name replenish < 1468022160 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replenish \ 3W \ Sorcery \ Return all enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Auras with nothing to enchant remain in your graveyard.) \ UD-R < 1468022176 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that reminder text makes me wonder about the timing < 1468022183 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Ghostly Flicker + some liquimetal paint < 1468022254 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468022366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1468022386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find any videos that take every use of the Force in the entirety of the Star Wars saga and put them together < 1468022437 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: Star Wars is Disney's now, they take all Star Wars videos down < 1468022446 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyright inthingy thing < 1468022452 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intimidation < 1468022467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah, but at least someone would have protested and won I would think < 1468022489 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure they would in this case < 1468022542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: You can't really get anything Star Wars out of people moving things with the force in rapid succession < 1468022560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Hell, Disney probably would've done it by now < 1468022563 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1468022576 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 2005 ruling on Replenish says "Auras can only be placed on permanents that were on the battlefield before this effect started to resolve. You can't put an enchantment onto the battlefield with Replenish and put an Aura that is also entering the battlefield onto one of those enchantments." < 1468022587 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to determine what to enchant before you put them to the battlefield < 1468022592 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1468022596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here's one: https://youtu.be/3IA-3C9dRSA < 1468022611 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that ruling would also apply to other similar effects < 1468022620 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then I think Simic Guildmage might be the only way < 1468022641 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some other cards that reattach auras, but they don't work in this case < 1468022651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1468022773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciaoily! < 1468022825 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if I have two Power Taints enchanting each other, both with a liquimetal coating, there's a Teferi's Realm in play, and I choose to exile all artifacts? < 1468022850 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, what happens in the next untap step when the two taints try to unphase < 1468022978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Teferi's REalm < 1468022980 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teferi's Realm \ 1UU \ World Enchantment \ At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses artifact, creature, land, or non-Aura enchantment. All nontoken permanents of that type phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during his or her next unta < 1468023037 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 702.25g says: If an object would simultaneously phase out directly and indirectly, it just phases out indirectly. < 1468023037 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, same question if only one of the Taints has a coating < 1468023058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: heheh < 1468023058 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they remain phased out forever? < 1468023061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name power taint < 1468023062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power Taint \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant enchantment \ At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted enchantment's controller, that player loses 2 life unless he or she pays {2}. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ US-C < 1468023114 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: agreed, that rule seems to imply that they'd phase out permanently < 1468023155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks boily forgot to chicken out.
< 1468023157 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't indirectly phased out permanents still phase in? < 1468023175 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the phasing rules are complicated and I never even had the illusion of understanding them < 1468023208 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indirectly phased out permanents phase in along with the permanent it is attached to (rule 702.25f). < 1468023228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1468023241 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what if only one of the Taints was coated? then one phases out directly and one indirectly < 1468023244 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1468023259 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is the indirect phasing recursive so both phase out indirectly again? < 1468023395 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"702.25f When a permanent phases out, any Auras, Equipment, or Fortifications attached to that permanent phase out at the same time. This alternate way of phasing out is known as phasing out “indirectly.” An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out indirectly won’t phase in by itself, but instead phases in along with the permanent it’s att < 1468023395 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ached to." < 1468023445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"702.25h An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out directly will phase in attached to the object or player it was attached to when it phased out, if that object is still in the same zone or that player is still in the game. If not, that Aura, Equipment, or Fortification phases in unattached. ..." < 1468023469 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seem to me it would be recursive, so both phase out indirectly, but you should ask Wizards of the Coast anyways, I think < 1468023671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: by the way, have you tried to make a card that directly affects a phased out permanent specifically? < 1468023680 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as moves it to another zone < 1468023725 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not remember but you can look up everything I have published < 1468023758 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there's Phase In < 1468023962 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. phone and IRC don't mix hth < 1468024144 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1468024179 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :havent seen you in here last few evenings < 1468024314 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468024428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, crazy idea. You have in play a Graf Rats, and also a Chittering Host (melded card) that's cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers. Graf Rats's ability triggers, so you exile both Graf Rats and Chittering Host. Then you're supposed to check the two exiled cards if they're a melded pair, but it turns out you have three exiled cards. Do you meld anythin < 1468024428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g, and if so, which Graf Rats? < 1468024447 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Graf Rats and Midnight Scavengers meld to Chittering Host.) < 1468024508 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could even find four cards in exile this way, and they could even be two Hanweir Battlements and two Hanweir Garrison. < 1468024530 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, this is too crazy < 1468024606 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or you could have a manifested face down Hanweir Garrison cytoshaped to a Graf Rats, and a manifested face down Hanweir Battlements cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers. < 1468024653 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468024656 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from rel notes) "712.2. One card in each meld pair has an ability that exiles both that object and its counterpart and melds them. To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined (see rule 701.34, “Meld”). The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards." < 1468024692 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia! social life happened. < 1468024708 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"701.34b Only two cards belonging to the same meld pair can be melded. Tokens, cards that aren’t meld cards, or meld cards that don’t form a meld pair can’t be melded." < 1468024762 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"12.4c If an effect can find the new object that a melded permanent becomes as it leaves the battlefield, it finds both cards. (See rule 400.7.) If that effect causes actions to be taken upon those cards, those actions are taken upon each of them." < 1468024762 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's no time for that. it's sgdq week AND camp nanowrimo! < 1468024780 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in your opinion, which is the most famous real chimp in history? < 1468024782 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: isn't nanowrimo in november? < 1468024811 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468024823 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :second camp is july < 1468024845 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"701.34a Meld is a keyword action that appears in an ability on one card in a meld pair. (...) To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined. The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards." < 1468024870 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have to perform that on each of the exiled cards that came from exiling the melded permanent < 1468024901 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as restricte by 701.34b < 1468025141 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if there's no valid object to enchant, then you attach the aura to Gnome Ann) < 1468025168 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well good night < 1468025175 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468025199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: shocking < 1468025334 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: lucy. < 1468025342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucy was a chimp? < 1468025346 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know! lots of sudden boardgaming! < 1468025349 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I... guess so? < 1468025491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's rather misinterpreted hth < 1468025556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oh there was a chimp called lucy < 1468025566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid non-injective naming < 1468025690 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there more than one damous non-human lucy? < 1468025693 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*famous < 1468025707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes, although the other was prehistoric hth < 1468025735 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i'm willing to grant australopithecus provisional humanity :P < 1468025753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucy the chimp seemed to have a sad ending < 1468025777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norway, the most famous chimpanzee would be julius < 1468025870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems to be getting along better these days. < 1468025932 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1468026015 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Considering that some people advocate for considering chimps "human" that's not completely crazy to grant. < 1468026022 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION supports chimps and other fuzzy animals
< 1468026095 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah it seems kind of arbitrary to say "you're not a human unless you understand the concept of a teacher intentionally helping you" < 1468026668 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :vr game idea: you and a friend stand on a giant room-sized NES controller, jumping onto the buttons to play SMB1 < 1468026834 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1468026836 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks
< 1468026880 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a giant NES controller, downtown on Ste-Catherine, with classic NES games projected on a building wall. that'd fit with the art installations. < 1468026884 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better if it weren't VR. < 1468026891 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1468026896 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's get crackalacking on that < 1468027110 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :build it out of maple, commission an art collective for a post-modern paintjob, hook a 'duino on the innards, rasp pi for the games, and bob's your uncle. < 1468027390 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bill's his name actually, but close enough < 1468027500 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468027648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: obviously, if you did this he would change his name to bob < 1468027727 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take your word for it < 1468027805 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we can just buy and disassemble a steel dance pad, save half the work of making the buttons durable to people jumping on them < 1468027946 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but... maple... < 1468027955 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a sentimental attachment towards maple
< 1468028248 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468028397 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468028583 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here to be educated thoroughly. What is haskell used for < 1468028600 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming < 1468028605 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1468028623 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks babe < 1468028629 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: time to increment your relcome counter < 1468028636 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: just watch me :D < 1468028640 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ratpuke < 1468028648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09ratpuke: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1468028657 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rainbow welcome nice < 1468028666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used for experimenting with functional programming features, mostly < 1468028673 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To bad its default black and white on my end < 1468028711 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any day to day uses < 1468028946 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too bad for writing compilers and similar tree-walking programs < 1468028966 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm < 1468028971 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good < 1468028974 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's good for testing theories in computer science empirically < 1468028990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via coding them in Haskell directly < 1468029012 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might try it out < 1468029086 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very nice for parsing data and mashing it in mysterious ways. < 1468029200 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: only an hour now until the SMM blind kaizo team relay race starts < 1468029207 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for me to walk home < 1468029269 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1468029333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: less than an hour, it's going to start very soon < 1468029335 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'rr already in setup < 1468029349 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try refreshing the schedule, it changes over time as runs go ahead and/or behind < 1468029572 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: good walk! don't get lost! don't get bitten by any wandering cryptid! < 1468029771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468029815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those wereticks can be nasty < 1468029917 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only fear "mouches à chevreuils". those bastards can make you bleed even if they bite through your clothes. < 1468029970 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:horseflies. < 1468029974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468029974 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks wikipédia < 1468029978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, wikipédia. Thikipédia. < 1468030045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're pulling my klegg < 1468030091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468030126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm confusing with knott < 1468030143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was wondering why he'd thought they were tiny
< 1468030148 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confusing with klogg < 1468030154 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats oerjan --------###
< 1468030158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google klogg < 1468030159 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theneverhood.wikia.com/wiki/Klogg < 1468030159 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Klogg - The Neverhood Wiki - Wikia < 1468030174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUgrkdzO6Ao < 1468030191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like an upstanding citizen < 1468030266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:biting midges, it seems < 1468030274 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KjOXd7luraM/hqdefault.jpg ← an example of what they can do. caveat "not my legs" emptor. < 1468030550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :caveat not clicking hth < 1468031775 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go understand my mattress. < 1468031778 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! < 1468031788 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REWIND CHICKEN < 1468031925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1468031929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1468031931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1468031946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that TIMEFORMAT line need an export? < 1468031974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm maybe it's only for use in an internal bash command? < 1468031988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` time echo hi < 1468031990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real: 0m0.003s, user: 0m0.000s, sys: 0m0.000s \ hi < 1468031999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run time echo hi < 1468031999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ real 0m0.001s \ user 0m0.000s \ sys 0m0.000s \ hi < 1468032007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1468032008 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would need an export, time is a bash internal. < 1468032012 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*but < 1468032034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1468032077 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is not true of all shells though; other shells will end up executing the time binary in the PATH) < 1468032725 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468032735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives today's mezzacotta full score on basis of the middle panel's absurdity.
< 1468032915 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e477:a7c1:6156:23c9 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1468032991 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a8ef:c934:3ab1:95d JOIN :#esoteric < 1468033446 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468033732 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468034304 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the new Magic: the Gathering cards I made up will temporarily replace the rules text of one card with that of another card. < 1468034378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: spell, permanent, or card in hand? < 1468034395 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd recommend doing it on permanents, otherwise overload/arcane could give problems < 1468034441 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does only affect permanents and can take the text only from permanent cards. < 1468034479 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :{X1}, {T}, Discard a permanent card with converted mana cost X: Target permanent's rules text becomes the discarded card's rules text until end of turn. Monstrosity 1. Scry 1. < 1468034650 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the monstrosity? < 1468034650 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that still makes the rules sad, but there's at least a chance that might work. Maybe. < 1468034676 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't prevent you using the ability multiple times < 1468034677 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just random < 1468034681 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is part of another card, which is why the monstrosity is there; it is just instead of a separate ability < 1468034701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Same thing with scry) < 1468034720 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a complex card! < 1468034734 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is. < 1468034767 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look up that (and other) card in my collection of made up cards < 1468035000 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468036348 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468037708 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468038310 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468038815 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for a language were the future code changes what the previous code should be. < 1468038833 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468038872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome wanderlust < 1468038894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like Feather < 1468038895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? feather < 1468038900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled by the oerjan < 1468038907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is alas vaporware) < 1468038911 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1468038913 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1468038923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is vaporware Feather? < 1468038935 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know < 1468038936 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468038942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're confusing zzo38 and ais523 < 1468038945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanderlust: < 1468038945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468038951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also possibly Feather and TwoDucks < 1468038974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was a timeout. < 1468038990 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468038998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: vaporware is a common acquaintance of zzo38's and mine < 1468039004 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1468039041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? father < 1468039043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TwoDucks is also time traveling, but i'm not sure it's self modifying. < 1468039044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :father? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468039111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Father is an ancestor of Feather. < 1468039176 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather can retroactively modify both data and code < 1468039198 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although to retroactively modify code, you need to go back to a point in time at which it was data < 1468039203 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought it could also retroactively modify the compiler? < 1468039206 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1468039241 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the interpreter is being interpreted by another Feather interpreter < 1468039266 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you basically just have to find the data source that the outer interpreter is using for the source of the inner interpreter and change that < 1468039291 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this being Feather, there is probably some way to change the entire infinite stack of compilers stretching back forever; I'd be surprised if there wasn't < 1468039292 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\me is impressed with the recommendation < 1468039327 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I get confused when trying to work out how the whole thing works < 1468039336 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps unsurprisingly < 1468039341 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*infinite stack of interpreters < 1468039512 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAARGH < 1468039535 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to generate my font and FontForge keeps crashing < 1468039593 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this time it won't crash < 1468039660 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I ought to work faster on my bdf2ttf program < 1468039705 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what happens if two of them us the same data source? or is that prohibited by the theoretical model? < 1468039729 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: most outright attempts to create a paradox end up leading to an infinite loop in Feather's model < 1468040018 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time travel model is actually quite simple, it's just call/cc < 1468040455 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, this time it isn't crashing, it's just taking forever to vectorize the font. < 1468040830 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/07/08/i-hate-you-japans-anime-style-mobile-romance-game-starring-girls-who-will-never-ever-love-you/ < 1468040861 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dating sim: realism overhaul < 1468040914 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time < 1468040920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1468040922 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468040924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeeeeeesh//See yeeeeeeeesh. < 1468040930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeeeeesh < 1468040934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeeeeeesh. < 1468040939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, this is why we need the jammed up rnooodl. < 1468040942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeeeesh < 1468040943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeeeeesh. < 1468040950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeesh < 1468040951 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yesh < 1468040956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468040956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468040962 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeesh < 1468040964 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeesh. < 1468041255 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ttf < 1468041257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 cat wisdom/y*sh < 1468041290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:See yeeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeesh. \ See yeeeesh. \ See yeeesh. \ See yeesh. < 1468041292 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torturous Toxin Font < 1468041355 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl Telemetry Font < 1468041413 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tcl < 1468041414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041445 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bash < 1468041447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041457 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perl < 1468041458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language < 1468041467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits perl < 1468041471 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman < 1468041485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that's not PERL? < 1468041487 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? python < 1468041488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python = ProgrammingLanguage(attrs=[plattrs['WHITESPACE_SENSITIVE'], plattrs['INTERPRETED'], *plparadigms['IMPERATIVE', 'FUNCTIONAL']]) < 1468041498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/python < 1468041503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468041508 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits wisdom/python < 1468041513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468041517 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1468041521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much wisdom < 1468041522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits python < 1468041526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf hppavilion[1] < 1468041537 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lisp < 1468041538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix))) < 1468041538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lisp < 1468041540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix))) < 1468041544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/lisp < 1468041546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468041548 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jinx < 1468041549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jinx? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041572 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1468041573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1468041576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :JINX Is Not XENIX < 1468041580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits c < 1468041586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1468041619 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d < 1468041621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language. < 1468041630 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? x < 1468041631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041642 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a < 1468041643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1468041663 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b < 1468041663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bbc < 1468041668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether. < 1468041668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. < 1468041685 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? e < 1468041686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041692 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? j < 1468041695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041713 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? w < 1468041714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#\.#, and villages in Norway# < 1468041725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation, and villages in Norway Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. < 1468041735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1468041736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1468041762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1468041764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway# < 1468041769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway Taneb invented it. < 1468041778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1468041784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1468041785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1468041787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1468041788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1468041790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1468041804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't turn back now < 1468041811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway.# < 1468041814 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway. Taneb invented it. < 1468041845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls ? < 1468041847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ^ \ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ * \ \ \ ☃ \ ⊥ \ ꙮ \ ⌨ \ 　 \ 𝕈 \ 🐐 \ 🐚 \  \ 0 \ 1 \ 9 \ a \ å \ Å \ b \ c \ d \ i \ k \ l \ o \ ø \ Ø \ ß \ u \ y \ э \ Э \ Я < 1468041877 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ☃ < 1468041878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. < 1468041884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1468041917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Я < 1468041918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how can I look up arbitrary Unicode wisdoms when I only have an ASCII keyboard? < 1468041937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1468041940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? should support punycode or something. < 1468041955 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: use tmux to copypaste < 1468041956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom Я < 1468041958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я//Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet < 1468041968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Я < 1468041969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468041973 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1468041977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1468041979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; < 1468041985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Э < 1468041986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1468041988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lowercase < 1468041990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed 's/./\l&/g;s/Ø/ø/g' < 1468041999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see. < 1468042026 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom э < 1468042028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Э//EH? < 1468042050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | diff - ../tmp/w < 1468042053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1468042063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | lowercase | diff - ../tmp/w < 1468042066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24c24 \ < å \ --- \ > Å \ 33c33 \ < ø \ --- \ > Ø \ 38,39c38,39 \ < э \ < я \ --- \ > Э \ > Я < 1468042078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 핈 < 1468042079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​핈? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1468042093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For consistency, `? should be renamed to `cwt < 1468042105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bin/lowercase < 1468042111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g;s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ ` echo sed \'s/./\\l&/g\' > bin/lowercase \ ` echo tr A-Z\xc3\x98 a-z\xc3\xb8 > bin/lowercase \ ` sed -i "s!z!z | sed \'s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'!" bin/lowercase \ revert \ bin/lowercase < 1468042229 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042245 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¿ < 1468042247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? < 1468042248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Я < 1468042250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet < 1468042264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. i knew izabera's changes would break stuff. < 1468042275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1468042296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you confirming, or just pronouncing the letter aloud? < 1468042300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1468042317 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : や < 1468042320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1468042327 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヤ < 1468042330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What was that pun that you didn't get the other day? < 1468042333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :矢 < 1468042373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to explain it but I forgot. < 1468042374 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468042394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm tmp/w < 1468042396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1468042397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Single-layer perceptron networks can't compute xor. < 1468042432 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ꮿ < 1468042502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you can try those that weren't working again now, i just fixed a recently introduced feature. < 1468042559 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :丨ㄚ < 1468042580 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468042587 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 핈 < 1468042589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​핈? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042600 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Э < 1468042601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EH? < 1468042627 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468042628 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? э < 1468042631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1468042647 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ☃ < 1468042648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. < 1468042655 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468042665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh i suspected xor was involved. < 1468042687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was bound to happen hth < 1468042701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm more familiar with circuit complexity than neural networks. < 1468042811 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY the autotrace finished! < 1468042844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but are you familiar with hugs < 1468042893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1468042895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1468042905 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1468042906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1468042917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bird < 1468042918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird bird bird bird < 1468042929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1468042930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468042949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used hugs for several years hth < 1468042958 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hg < 1468042959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042963 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hug < 1468042966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hug? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468042987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh < 1468042988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1468043000 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh is the subjunctive tense of a future hth < 1468043091 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hg/hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury. < 1468043096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hg» < 1468043118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1468043119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious articled cackling zombie underlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1468043137 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#under#oever# < 1468043140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie oeverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1468043186 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sled < 1468043189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`sled // < 1468043203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/oe/ø/ < 1468043205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1468043274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's funny, i don't even know real hg. < 1468043306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slwd < 1468043307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slwd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468043359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn slwd/`slwd // < 1468043362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «slwd» < 1468043408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/slwd < 1468043410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sled "wisdom/$1" < 1468043506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sled < 1468043507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1468043527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was going to do a clever `slwd ../bin/slwd thing < 1468043535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i didn't have one < 1468043536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1468043546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sad trombone* < 1468043669 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo wo wowowowowo < 1468043758 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh why is fontforge getting so sloooooooow < 1468045308 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:81e7:3f26:5a11:5a66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468045400 0 :wanderlust!~wanderlus@104.200.151.78 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468045672 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468045687 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1468045698 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uploadted the new version! < 1468045701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :悦悩惑惜惧惨惰愁愉愚慄慈慌慎慕慢慨慮慰慶憂憎憚憤憧憩憬憶憾懇懐懲懸 < 1468045704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⚝⚞⚟⚠⚡⚢⚣⚤⚥⚦⚧⚨⚩⚲⚳⚴⚵✍✎✐⤧⤨⤩⤪⤫⤬⤭⤮⤯⤰⤱⤲⤳⤸⤹⤺⤻⤼⤽⥂⥃⥄⥅⥆⥇⥊⥋⥌⥍⥎⥏ < 1468045707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⥐⥑⥒⥓⥔⥕⥖⥗⥘⥙⥚⥛⥜⥝⥞⥟⥠⥡⥢⥣⥤⥥⥦⥧⥨⥩⥪⥫⥬⥭⥮⥯⧨⧩⧪⧫⧬⧭⧮⧯⧰⧱⧲⧳㋐㋑㋒㋓㋔㋕㋖㋗㋘㋙㋚㋛㋜㋝㋞㋟ < 1468045711 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋠㋡㋢㋣㋤㋥㋦㋧㋨㋩㋪㋫㋬㋭㋮㋯㋰㋱㋲㋳㋴㋵㋶㋷㋸㋹㋺㋻㋼㋽㋾㍱㍲㍳㍴㍵㍶㍷㍸㍹㍺㍻㍼㍽㍾㎀㎁㎂㎃㎄㎅㎆㎇㎈㎉㎊㎋ < 1468045714 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1468045741 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ported my bot to discord and finally went to learning node.js < 1468045812 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have passed the 8000 character mark < 1468045881 0 :moonythedwarf!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone wants the SRC im willing to share it < 1468045893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That sounds like quite a novel. < 1468046132 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1468046581 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA Elixir and Rust have warts that, if you squint, look similar < 1468047227 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: like waht? < 1468047249 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, functions with optional arguments can't be captured as a function argument with optional arguments, just the different possible arities are each one possible function. Funnily, this reminds me of a Rust wart, you can have generic functions, but can't capture them as a value that takes generics. < 1468047308 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses HexChat copy behavior
< 1468047315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: When are you scheduled to get obsessed with Swift? < 1468047328 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: Sure, but the Rust one will be fixed once HKT is ever implemented, and in Elixir, you don't want to store functions for very long, so you're probably not passing them to somebody who would want the optional argument behaviour. < 1468047375 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``once ... is ever'' interesting construction < 1468047376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `once: not found < 1468047412 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :simultaniously implying soon and not soon < 1468047412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even `once < 1468047486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should've used `àwesome quoteś´ < 1468047511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the < 1468047518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps ònce-awesome quoteś < 1468047531 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode `à < 1468047532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0060 GRAVE ACCENT] [U+00E0 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE] < 1468047541 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1468047782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you've made a grave error < 1468047836 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1468048071 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, not sure. An interest in iOS would probably help. < 1468048085 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I briefly wondered about Objective-C but lost interest < 1468048107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Swift runs on Linux. < 1468048115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has algebraic data types and everything you like. < 1468048138 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-C is a strict superset of C as far as I know, so any C code will also work in a Objective-C program. < 1468048158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is a strict superset of a strict subset of C. < 1468048175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So any C code which is also C++ code is also C++ code. < 1468049117 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468049139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468050305 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1468050524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm what should I add next? < 1468052774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a code if(rom_here-instruction_pos<17 && rom[instruction_pos]==(cell)0x8BBE+rom_here-instruction_pos) { but it says that "+rom_here-instruction_pos" is an invalid suffix for an integer constant. Adding a space before the plus sign works though. < 1468052826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it do that? < 1468052834 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3e10 < 1468052840 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3e+10 < 1468052846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks a bit like a float? < 1468052954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Who says that? < 1468052972 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who says what? < 1468052985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this php < 1468053002 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is a C code < 1468053068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to make Crime Statistics Bureau - San Francisco into a real TV show < 1468053074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSB:SF < 1468053077 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's te < 1468053080 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the cast? < 1468053083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll wait for everyone to google that before I expand on the joke) < 1468053143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the Dunning-Kruger effect should be renamed to the Trump effect < 1468053721 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3885 < 1468053873 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so it is supposed to work like that. < 1468053965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the meme version of the dunning-kruger effect is simply misinterpreted hth < 1468054005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I went to Wikipedia and it agrees with what I thought it is < 1468054015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just checked 538, and thank god, trump is unlikely to win < 1468054022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead, we get Clinton. < 1468054025 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the bugs marked as a duplicate of that one looks like it is not a duplicate < 1468054027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yeah, that's a relief < 1468054035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's a crazy person I slightly agree with < 1468054076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468054249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug 11494 is not a duplicate of bug 3885. < 1468054514 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm is C integer division flooring or truncating? Or is it implementation defined? < 1468054562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah < 1468054589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for an old news report about MLKj (preferably the first one about him on a national news station) < 1468054599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has to be on YT < 1468054601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can make a funny commnet < 1468054938 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im most likely the most dead man on earth. Duckgoosecrashes the server hbot runs on < 1468054980 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], plz tell me that this plan is not as shitheaded as it sounds < 1468054994 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468055260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How is it shitheaded? < 1468055302 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like you're trying to troll videos of MLK with stupid comments about recent events < 1468055515 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if that is what you're doing, well, i genuinely quite like you and i would be very disappointed to see you get sucked into destructive hatred < 1468056172 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468057001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say what you like about Trump, but if he becomes president, there will be a HUGE boost to export < 1468057007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Primarily in the export of Mexicans < 1468057327 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: IIRC it depends on the C version; in C11 / is defined to truncate towards zero; earlier versions only defined / for nonnegative numbers and made the behvior on negative numbers implementation-defined. < 1468057492 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:81e7:3f26:5a11:5a66 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468057655 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, s/C11/C99/, apparently. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3602827/what-is-the-behavior-of-integer-division-in-c/3602857#3602857 < 1468058203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Quite < 1468058847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/foreign-body-rectum notes that "fruits and vegetables" are a common examp;e < 1468058853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/;/l/ < 1468058873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fruits and vegetables", of course, links to http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/ss/slideshow-exotic-fruits < 1468058885 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how interesting < 1468059037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You should not go looking for recipes immediately after you have removed a foreign body from your rectum, especially if said foreign body is an ingredient in those recipes < 1468059191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of don't get what you're doing in general, but listening to Phantom_Hoover is probably not a bad idea. < 1468060235 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1468061351 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468061363 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this guy doing? Doesn't he know this is a speedrunning event? He's lost frames on level 2. < 1468061392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, no, it's not about recent events. Exactly. I think. < 1468061401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It would be more of a joke about idiots on the internet < 1468061448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: MLK was a cool guy, and I have nothing against him; he's just the first person that I thought of to use as a vessel for the joke (also, I'm probably not going to watch it otherwise) < 1468061461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND it would probably be Fox News or something, so there's that < 1468061524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, now that I think about it, lots of people probably wouldn't get the joke < 1468062209 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this was horrible < 1468062256 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468062265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat? < 1468062273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, e's gone < 1468062573 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lulu.com/shop/brian-hall/beejs-guide-to-network-programming/paperback/product-18179133.html < 1468062606 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468063252 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-28-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1468063467 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468063647 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-227-28-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1468064511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's possible to make 2.5D, is it possible to make 3.5D? < 1468064593 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on how you define 2.5D... < 1468064636 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you consider Doom a 2.5D engine, then really all "2.5D" means is "3D with geometry restrictions due to optimization". You could probably apply the same logic to higher dimensions. < 1468064999 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what about pi d < 1468065199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, isn't I though 2.5D also used for parallax scrolling... < 1468065443 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends which meaning of 2.5D you're using, which makes things even more difficult... < 1468065795 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 blocks to go < 1468065823 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5D normally means 3D rendering but 2D player movement, ime? < 1468065874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, yet another meaning < 1468066025 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well smash and doom are the things that come to mind for 2.5D for me < 1468066046 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, i mean it's an inherently imprecise term < 1468066090 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :game maker used to have 3d rendering and 2d player movements < 1468066097 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun < 1468066137 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was up to at least game maker 6, idk if it's real 3d now < 1468066149 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Trials" series -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_(series) -- is I think sometimes called 2.5D as well. < 1468066195 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's (at least in the latest incarnations) very much a generic 3D renderer except the player character is restricted to a 2D "plane". < 1468066219 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's more of a twisting, turning track thing. < 1468066351 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: thinking about it the idea that parallax scrolling is 2.5D may date back to before 3D rendering became ubiquitous. < 1468066497 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess there's also the rendering term which is basically used for "rendering methods which try to look 3D without making everything into a polygon mesh" < 1468066664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I was excited to hear about a successor to "Limbo" which imho is a great (though creepy) 2D jump&run puzzle... but all the screenshots look 3D... less excited now. < 1468066665 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like raytracing with CSG? ;) < 1468066701 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.\.\./ game&/ < 1468066740 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIMBO was great. < 1468066743 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking about games fizzie, the only* games that use raytracing use it as prerendered images < 1468066754 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*im sure there's some dumb exception < 1468066765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer 2D rendering for 3D player movements < 1468066771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, that could actually work...) < 1468066798 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense that's what e.g. mario kart on the snes did < 1468066818 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_Wars:_Ray_Traced ... oh Larrabee ... hahahaha < 1468066890 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realtime raytracing gets done a lot in demoscene stuff. < 1468066891 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reason I'm laughing isn't that I think that the idea of having many general purpose CPUs on a chip isn't appealing... it's the idea that anybody would care about those CPUs being x86 compatible) < 1468066920 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure a lot of the time there's still polygon meshes involved, though. < 1468066966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLR4knU0rvM probably doesn't, but... < 1468067064 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468067140 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spheres, the second easiest object to raytrace in the universe (the truly easiest is the diamond, because then you can use manhattan distance, and working out the normal is just 3 comparisions and a table) < 1468067160 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there a worthy modern successor to povray? I'm looking for some sort of declarative, CSG based, language for describing scenes, plus a reasonable renderer. (and I'm in principle happy to still use povray for that) < 1468067190 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, a cube is surely easier than a sphere < 1468067210 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but then you have to work out the normal < 1468067243 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :still just a table, no? < 1468067243 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while with a sphere you can just normalize the position you hit at < 1468067259 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of any "spiritual successors" of POV-Ray. < 1468067271 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :reflective spheres are very common in raytracing because they are really easy to trace and really hard to render convincingly with other techniques. < 1468067373 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The original is still sort-of alive, though, I understand.) < 1468067408 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, it's still packaged for debian < 1468067464 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/graphs/commit-activity ... well. The numbers are non-zero, that's something. < 1468067545 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :refractive spheres too, for that matter < 1468067567 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it just fills this particular niche well enough that nobody wants to create a successor. < 1468067951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468068906 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468068938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468070745 0 :moses!~moses@124.123.87.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468070776 0 :moses!~moses@124.123.87.251 QUIT :Client Quit < 1468074210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468074772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468074789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is the creature that feasts on dreams, btw
< 1468074858 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they make a vacuum cleaner." -- Oscar Wilde < 1468075149 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting design for a vaccum cleaner... blowing the dust away < 1468075541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what the fuck Lady Gaga < 1468075551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with the swan < 1468075552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's weir < 1468075555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1468075560 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1468075582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that "ContextBot" thing XKCD suggested might be good right now... < 1468076862 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468077810 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468077913 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1468077986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :associativity//Associativity means that h(th) = (ht)h, if you're flexible about it. < 1468078151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468078421 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1468078436 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you hype for tasbot block? < 1468078925 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1468078929 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasbot block? < 1468079741 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TASes! on SGDQ! < 1468081066 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1468081273 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Client Quit < 1468081278 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'd completely forgotten about SGDQ going on. :/ < 1468081288 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1468081371 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Client Quit < 1468081394 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I missed anything great? < 1468081425 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1468081677 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a great entering the code to begin the of the at the end of world < 1468081686 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1468081704 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess it depends on what you're interested in < 1468081723 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DK64 was glitchy and nice < 1468081732 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glitchy is generally fun. < 1468081772 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DK64 run involved a detour into multiplayer and glitching out of multiplayer to keep pickups in the single-player game < 1468081789 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creative routing < 1468083194 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1468083197 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 091523Z CCA 10009KT 15SM -SHRA BKN015 OVC020 19/16 A2978 RMK SC5SC3 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP085 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1468083210 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVCTV? < 1468083496 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468083880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :'CVCTV CLD - Convective Cloud' < 1468083897 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thint-ello. < 1468083905 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but afaiui, anything following RMK is not fully standardized anyway < 1468083998 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 more blocks before, well, perhaps nothing much happens. < 1468084107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about this some more and I figure it depends on how many of the bitcoin miners are opportunistic... selling off their hard earned bitcoins for the market price immediately < 1468084133 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those can just stop mining when the reward is halved and wait the transition out < 1468084328 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, they put up the runs on youtube afterwards. In fact they are not very far behind. Somewhere between 1 and 2 days behind < 1468084357 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, also I believe the TAS segment hasn < 1468084362 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't* started yet? < 1468084367 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1468084385 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, when is it? < 1468084398 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This evening or tonight, right? < 1468084507 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I think about 22:00 < 1468084515 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:44 PM TASBot plays Super Mario Land 2 < 1468084545 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The schedule isn't entirely fixed since it depends on earlier games, but about then < 1468084555 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1468084573 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I need to fix my sleep schedule for tomorrow though, so I probably won't be able to watch all of it < 1468084580 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1468084591 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw.. oh well < 1468084591 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468084625 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll watch the VOD afterwards < 1468084635 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Mario Maker is up on youtube now < 1468084643 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1468084653 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? That might be more interesting than Diablo 2 indeed < 1468084690 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJV86j1-DuE < 1468084708 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the Mario Maker segment at AGDQ was great at least < 1468084713 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I pulled it up on my tablet next to me already... Seems to be a lot of setup in it though.... < 1468084784 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, two weird things here. All the other videos so far cut out the setup time. Also there is no pause music? < 1468084822 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I guess they don't want DMCA < 1468084918 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had videos before with setup time.. < 1468084933 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does youtube allow you to change the video after upload? maybe they upload it first and cut it later on < 1468084943 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1468085160 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to start about 22 minutes in < 1468085217 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, these levels are super-trolly < 1468085220 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1468085250 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, did you watch the Bethesda block? That was super-cool. < 1468085258 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing glitches < 1468085292 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't.. I guess I should watch that after this < 1468085304 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, Arena - Skyrim, all of them < 1468085314 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all of them are just hilarious. < 1468085494 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re. super trolly.. well they're pro players who regularly play Kaizo-style levels, so hey < 1468085502 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1468085515 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't find it fun to watch. < 1468085539 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468085543 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though granted this first stage seems a bit over-the-top < 1468085560 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I think I prefer the single-person showing off their skill style runs in general. (Though the Tetris segment was pretty cool) < 1468086243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun, a bitcoin block with a single transaction. < 1468086327 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently they (blockchain.info) count the reward payment as a transaction) < 1468086557 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So apparently they've made it. < 1468086798 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their software has a bug... https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000004db7eebf333b81f2529835102f7f7e86eca889287148885 lists the reward as 16.666BTC; dividing by 3 instead of 4... funny. < 1468086861 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to exploit it and make a shitload of money < 1468086878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it's just the website. < 1468086896 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's time to... exploit it and make a little amount of money? < 1468086920 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was time to notice it and mock the programmer < 1468086945 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you're poor, you're not in the right mindset < 1468086974 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"network propagation" is messed up < 1468086988 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's at the zero point < 1468086990 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you may be right < 1468087067 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: anyway, here's what I say: That programmer must have saved their company millions of CPU cycles! < 1468087082 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's on purpose! < 1468087084 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :those bastards < 1468087165 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something broken with bitcoin again? < 1468087227 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, somebody else tries to get some laughs out of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4s14gu/no_blockchaininfo_its_not_12_14_16/ < 1468087257 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nope, everything is going as designed... reward is halving every 210k blocks, and they just made it to 420k. < 1468087317 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the last time bitcoins were virtually worthless, so this time is a bit more interesting. impossible to predict though. < 1468087636 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next difficulty adjustment is 1344 blocks away. *hmm* < 1468087644 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468087678 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, so how many days? < 1468087680 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approx < 1468087691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, normally 144 blocks per day < 1468087737 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So within weeks then < 1468087772 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to with the reward halfed they may want to drop the difficulty in half which means they'd have to drag the ~10 days out to ~25? < 1468087812 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would require collusion... it's all so utterly unpredictable. < 1468087820 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um what? < 1468087859 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I see what you mean < 1468087894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the 25 number comes from the fact that the difficulty will be based on 2016 blocks, 1/3 of which have already been mined) < 1468088516 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :best use of pov ray so far https://imgur.com/gallery/HtZAWdi < 1468088612 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, basically, we live on discworld < 1468088683 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moment of ridicule is over too... < 1468088988 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468089386 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468089889 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1468089951 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, pokemon red race < 1468091536 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468091801 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PRESSURISED CHICKEN < 1468092659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468093202 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a8ef:c934:3ab1:95d QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468093294 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:b1bd:2a75:66b6:e652 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468094052 0 :JX7P!?@? NICK :NotJx7p < 1468094131 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1468094148 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468094311 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468095386 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1468095449 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ais523 left < 1468095456 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't congratulated him :( < 1468095526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did. < 1468095531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just wasn't around at the time. < 1468096312 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ttf format for contours is so annoying < 1468096372 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make a program for converting bdf to ttf but it is annoying me < 1468096598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you have an array of x coordinates, an array of y coordinates, and an array of flags. < 1468096686 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the array of flags has one entry for each point, which determines whther the x and y coordinates are each 16 bit or 8 bit. which means that the x coordinates can't be indexed, and neither can the y coordinates, without iterating through the falgs? < 1468096710 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468096741 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d92:e494:ac77:4cdc JOIN :#esoteric < 1468096742 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d92:e494:ac77:4cdc QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468097116 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution, presumably, is "why are you trying to iterate through the flags" < 1468097125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need to write a file, not read it < 1468097153 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(trying to read a font file is insanity anyway because, well, you also have to deal with so much internationalization madness) < 1468097856 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468098283 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: what internationalization? < 1468098307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually arranging the letters that you read from the font into something useful? < 1468098327 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1468098356 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bunch of prgrams already that manipulate ttf files, but none thta actually read or write contour data yet < 1468098399 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/allchars.htm is made by reading the character map data from the ttf file < 1468098493 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ttfinvread.htm < 1468098703 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost time for tasblock! < 1468098713 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you enjoy it! < 1468098727 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as usual, I have some idea of what's coming, and yet it's going to impress me /anyway/ < 1468098784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am purposely keeping myself in the dark regarding specifics < 1468098799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is tasblock? < 1468098839 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: SGDQ is a yearly speedrunning showcase for charity (there's two a year, the other is called AGDQ); tasblock is a section dedicated to games being spedrun via robots/programmable controllrs < 1468098961 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is speedrun not already a past participle? < 1468099035 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im surprised the room isnt more full. it was packed for the smm race < 1468099195 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Super Mario Land 2. < 1468099199 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played a lot of that. < 1468099610 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt but it looks cool. is wario the boss? < 1468099629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468099723 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1468099803 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if my saves are still there; I don't know what sort of non-volatile storage Game Boy carts have. < 1468099858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have battery-powered RAM I thing < 1468099878 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eventually the battery runs out and you have to replace it < 1468099925 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess my save's probably some 20 years old now. < 1468099954 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's the game that invented wario < 1468100096 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can back up the save file in your computer if you have the proper equipment to do so, so that if the battery is dead, you can still restore the save game file. (If you back up the ROM data too, then you can also play the game on your computer too.) < 1468100426 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I have now sucessfully automated the process of finding stray pixels < 1468100667 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have want to have a separate file format for glyphs and for metrics, so that you can use the proper glyph format depending on the device while common metrics formats can be in use. This format for metrics that I think of it assumes 32-bit characters, with no other assumptions made about the character set (such as which ones are control characters and so on). Any features relevant to typesetting other than the glyphs themself are programmed < 1468100696 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still unalbe to generate a ttf file worth a damn but hey, at least this is prgress < 1468100858 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such as: ligatures, kerning, mapping multiple codepoints to one glyph, multiple glyphs to one codepoint, character spacing, hanging punctuation, word spacing, text direction, variation selectors, controls to override text direction and other things, boundary characters, metadata, etc) < 1468101091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468101196 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468101232 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, btw, the TAS segment is ongoing now < 1468101303 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I noticed. < 1468101328 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, okay, just thought since you said you forgot about SGDQ previously < 1468101362 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: was it everything you hoped it would be < 1468101375 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the block hasn't finished much yet < 1468101387 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and I also forgot about the TASBot block during the last few hours -- fortunately someone said something. < 1468101389 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SML2 was a bit more elaborate than I expected, that was fun to see < 1468101402 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VVVVVV was pretty much what I expected and I was commentating it on the official IRC channel (#sdamarathon on Quakenet) < 1468101414 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I like the "console verification" on PC < 1468101424 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really fun stuff should be later in the block though :-) < 1468101430 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1468101451 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And seeing VVVVVV was really cool. I tried playing that some years ago. It is quite difficult even non-speedrunning < 1468101455 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never finished the game < 1468101457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres only one more run on the schddule < 1468101462 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've completed it it 100%, although not in no deaths mode < 1468101468 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got through the first level in no deaths mode though before now < 1468101485 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ive been told the difficulty is way overhyped < 1468101486 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, ? I know there was some donation incentives related to TAS met < 1468101492 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've finished VVVVVV in the "so many deaths" mode. < 1468101503 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one where you keep dying over and over again. < 1468101507 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they didnt put them on the schedule < 1468101513 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, depends on how good your timing skills are I guess < 1468101513 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did this involve the use of Hourglass? < 1468101522 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I have terrible timing skills. < 1468101536 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes < 1468101537 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm just the worst in Gravitron. < 1468101542 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, TASbot, at least < 1468101543 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly play turn based games thus. I'm reasonable at those generally < 1468101547 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I suck at Gravitron too :-( < 1468101556 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think two of the runs weve already seen were incentives i think < 1468101570 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the glitched-any% runs were incentives < 1468101578 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they make good incentives because they're so short they don't disturb the schedule much < 1468101602 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya. tends to be how incentives work < 1468101606 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cropping the screen took longer than the run. < 1468101628 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that reminds me of my NetHack fastest death run, it had already game-overed before the intro subtitles had finished < 1468101631 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, pretty sure there was some incentive that was longer earlier though < 1468101637 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. they had it cropped by the time the credits came < 1468101644 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of "this is a tool-assisted speedrun" the official encode was written in the past tense < 1468101668 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty grand. < 1468101685 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is the speed run record for nethack? (either TAS or real) < 1468101689 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :any% < 1468101702 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt know there was a fastest death category... < 1468101714 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there isn't, it got rejected; it was an april 1 joke < 1468101715 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ais523 invented it. < 1468101725 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres ROBberry pi! < 1468101750 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in terms of clock time, 1:03; in terms of turncount, 2130 with bones stuffing, 2251 no bones < 1468101770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the lights in the nes controllers < 1468101777 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's new this year < 1468101781 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, bone stuffing is preparing an advantageous bone file? < 1468101782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the NES visualisation boards, that is < 1468101783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel "windows total control" < 1468101784 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1468101799 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intentionally gathering all the resources you need, suiciding the character, and hoping to find the bones with the next one < 1468101824 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm, is the gathering of resources included in the run as well then? < 1468101829 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1468101833 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1468101836 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's a separate category, it's more of a newgame+ < 1468101860 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, 1:03, that would be doable as a segment in a future *GDQ < 1468101866 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case, why not just write the bones file manually < 1468101878 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it relied on a lot of luck < 1468101891 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top players don't require luck to win sort-of quickly, but the fastest runs require a ton of luck just ot go fast < 1468101894 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to go fast < 1468101900 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what is an average speed run? < 1468101902 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say 3:00 would be a good estimate for a GDQ < 1468101909 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468101911 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit too much < 1468101919 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ofc it's crazy risky < 1468101941 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you glitch nethack though? Or is it too robust? < 1468101949 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a 4:05 estimate for the Final Fantasy VI coming up. < 1468101953 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the dude who is drumming all the smb themes on his leg < 1468101963 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's had years and years of development... I wouldn't doubt it's robust... < 1468101971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, you could say that of many buggy things < 1468101996 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, a bit more well known of a game though < 1468102011 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it can be glitched < 1468102023 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a dangling pointer glitch that's possible very early < 1468102040 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds crashy rather than go-fast < 1468102044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you only want a crash, start with a Healer or Tourist, and as soon as the game starts, type d4294967296$d4294967296$ (requires a 32-bit computer) < 1468102047 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it divides by zero < 1468102062 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so a glitched any% run might be slightly faster? < 1468102066 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what next, a buffer overflow? < 1468102072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the dangling pointer glitch basically lets you edit memory arbitrarily < 1468102075 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Does a glitch count for a TAS if the TASer is also a developer of the game and intentionally put the glitch in? :P < 1468102077 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you have got to be kidding me < 1468102083 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I can do that too, but haven't found a way to exploit it into anything other than a crash yet < 1468102123 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *1 hour ago, commit by ais523: preparations* diff: if (name[0] == '@') win_game(); < 1468102129 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope the runs end at the same time < 1468102139 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I wasn't on the devteam when I was working on this stuff < 1468102148 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact, TASes are done on 3.4.3 for this reason < 1468102152 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what on earth are those "runner" names now? < 1468102153 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: If it's the set of runs I'm thinking of, they're pretty close. < 1468102159 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1468102176 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no idea :-D < 1468102183 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1468102194 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. four runs at once.... < 1468102199 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought 3 < 1468102214 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what is "lost levels"? < 1468102236 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The game releases as "Super Mario Bros 2" in Japan. < 1468102242 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*released < 1468102261 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468102378 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it doesn't *look* like the same inputs for all of them. Or they are possibly not perfectly in sync? < 1468102412 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're desynced a little I think < 1468102425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see that when one game goes to the left, the others all have to do that too to compensate < 1468102447 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think it is the lost levels one that is desynced < 1468102459 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense, it's on a famicom < 1468102464 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may have a different framerate < 1468102475 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aah. Right < 1468102475 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8c13:3fe7:a435:9067 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1468102525 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah other ones are desynced too < 1468102625 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also the routing for this must have been a nightmare. And require a very special kind of mind. < 1468102724 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"routing"? also, how exactly are they trying to "sync" multiple games...? < 1468102730 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: same inputs for every game < 1468102738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, what? < 1468102743 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "routing" = working out which levels you'll play and which routes you'll use through them < 1468102744 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, yes < 1468102755 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Famicom *ought* to have the same framerate, at least nominally... < 1468102767 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just... what? < 1468102781 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said the lost levels took longer to load than the rest. < 1468102787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it's not as hard as it seems if you ever try it on a couple of games yourself < 1468102800 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(While explaining the desync thing a moment ago.) < 1468102808 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, although this time with routing I would also include figuring out when to press left so it doesn't mess up the other games. Or I don't know a better way to describe it anyway < 1468102817 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh *right*, SMB2 was a Famicom Disk System game. < 1468102837 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't advertise that < 1468102842 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they weren't sure they'd be able to find a working Famicom < 1468102844 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but SGDQ delivered < 1468102852 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1468102861 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, it's not that hard to obtain one. < 1468102864 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, EU had Famicom rather than NES too right? < 1468102865 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for the race < 1468102866 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A working FDS is hard though. < 1468102874 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no idea, I wasn't paying attention to games back then < 1468102879 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468102882 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, EU had two NES releases. < 1468102887 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh? < 1468102887 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, they found a working Famicom, did something rather butcher-y to it to make it accept the same inputs as a bunch of NESes at the same time... < 1468102888 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by disk...means floppy? < 1468102890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then what? < 1468102896 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes. < 1468102915 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's not that hard -- the Famicom is electrically nearly identical to an NES. < 1468102933 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the poor thing... < 1468102947 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, What about the controller connector? Does it differ? < 1468102951 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really butchery, they just plugged the controller in through the controller port < 1468102952 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm they used an emulator for sml2...how did they do that legally? < 1468102968 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, the gameboy one? They explained that < 1468102969 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does differ for the original Famicom, but not for the AV Famicom. < 1468102977 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sadly they did not manage to get the hardware working < 1468102982 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you own the cartridge and dump it yourself, it's probably legal in the US at least, although I'm not sure though < 1468103009 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There was a "Mattel version" and "NES version" of the NES released in Europe. Games for one were not compatible with games for the other. < 1468103019 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It would be. < 1468103026 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, also all these runs were likely run on simulators first. < 1468103049 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how stupid. What was the difference? < 1468103051 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Backup copies of software are *explicitly* named as a legal process in US copyright law. < 1468103070 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nintendo only cares about videos of emulated games... < 1468103071 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Lockout chips and distributer. < 1468103072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I forgot it'd count as a backup < 1468103128 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1468103132 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What just happened < 1468103188 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In most of Europe Nintendo was the distributor, in the UK, Italy and Australia Mattel was *initially*, but they basically fucked around and didn't bother doing much with it so Nintendo took over as a distributer. < 1468103211 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "NES Version" was distributed by Nintendo. < 1468103211 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1468103215 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for the race < 1468103257 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, well "race" < 1468103284 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay this is definitely illegal < 1468103302 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cue the takedown notices < 1468103324 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, what? < 1468103373 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone start recording! < 1468103645 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooo kill the animals < 1468103673 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, really? That was it for TAS? How boring < 1468103693 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you don't think instantly completing SMB3 is interesting? < 1468103708 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sure, but I think "pokemon plays twitch" was cooler < 1468103712 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crazy stuff with editing new games into existing games is reserved for the winter marathons < 1468103715 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As was mario maker in whatever other mario it was < 1468103723 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it takes so much work it can only be done once a year < 1468103725 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1468103733 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not as interesting as the brain age tas or the pokemon plays twitch tas but its pretty cool < 1468103735 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is in January right? < 1468103741 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: right < 1468103759 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, oh yeah that brain age one too < 1468103787 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone leaves... < 1468103820 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no love for ff6. (i never finished it myself) < 1468103822 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1468103834 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I think it is pretty good. But it is not TAS :P < 1468103837 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also is it a race? < 1468103861 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer single runs to races < 1468103907 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :any% glitch run i think < 1468103919 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good, as long as it isn't a race < 1468103932 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. its 4h tho. < 1468103946 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'll go to sleep before the end of it < 1468103957 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill probs skip it, come back for the metroid race < 1468104179 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I would love seeing the TASbot going for more modern games. Why not hook up to a N64 controller or such < 1468104215 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or gamecube < 1468104221 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newer than that might be harder < 1468104240 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's done Mario Kart 64 in the past < 1468104248 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to try finding that on youtube < 1468104268 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sounds interesting < 1468104626 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must be kidding me... xine_setenv("DVDCSS_RAW_DEVICE", "", 1); ... no wonder it's trying to open an empty file. < 1468105032 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468105098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess it is the semantics of that setenv that were changed at some point. < 1468106378 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's libdvdcss that changed. < 1468108348 0 :NotJx7p!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1468109698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1468110405 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode INSULAR < 1468110441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1D79 LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR G \ UTF-8: e1 b5 b9 UTF-16BE: 1d79 Decimal: ᵹ \ ᵹ (Ᵹ) \ Uppercase: U+A77D \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+1DD8 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR D \ UTF-8: e1 b7 98 UTF-16BE: 1dd8 Decimal: ᷘ \ ᷘ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing < 1468110454 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellꙫrjan! < 1468110603 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468110811 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :今boilyは < 1468111096 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :안녀랜하심니카! < 1468111369 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I see the "eoraen" in there < 1468111402 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after looking up a chart) < 1468111554 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fkeqqtflbgcjhxdx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1468111658 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lncozajuvnlveihm JOIN :#esoteric < 1468111681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellꙫren < 1468111719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boheily < 1468111823 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468112070 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :բարի իրիգըռյա՛ն: < 1468112088 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꙫ < 1468112090 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1468112094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66B CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER BINOCULAR O] < 1468112139 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⚇ < 1468112141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2687 WHITE CIRCLE WITH TWO DOTS] < 1468112192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Շնորհակալություն Աստծուն, Google թարգմանել < 1468112262 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1468112268 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Shubshub < 1468112276 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not new :P < 1468112282 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaargh! < 1468112286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Shubshub: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1468112294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rare Shubshub sighting < 1468112298 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shellobshellob it is then! < 1468112300 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gopher < 1468112302 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats mine < 1468112308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just pretend it means rare welcome hth < 1468112336 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1468112341 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna do some code golf < 1468112369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sends boily an invoice for an OKAY license
< 1468112939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how much < 1468113011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a trade secret hth < 1468113122 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468113242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1468113300 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468113807 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468113838 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1468113844 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1468114107 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attempting to write a new esolang :D < 1468115960 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind? < 1468116019 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468116038 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468116261 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: is it going to be minimal? line or character based? will it use [REDACTED] and with them twist the fabric of the Universe? < 1468116948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it should use [RETRACTED] instead. < 1468116972 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll see < 1468116975 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I get it working first < 1468116988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good opportunity to make a section-retraction pun < 1468116991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't think of one < 1468117206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, it's hard to think of an epic pun in a split moment < 1468117252 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468117440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does the retraction have to be the left inverse, the opposite would have been more mnemonic < 1468117506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lection and a retraction? < 1468117599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a section would have been sinister < 1468117600 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1468117615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and r* is obvious < 1468117637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course < 1468117656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had to check his mnemonic for free and underlying adjoints again
< 1468117708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that would have been a good mnemonic < 1468117710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also latin-based < 1468117717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but reality detracts from it < 1468117728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sinister trombone* < 1468117739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your menmonic for free and underlying? < 1468117746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"liberty" hth < 1468117774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah i spent so long typing that word correctly and then you botched it :P < 1468117776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always go with 12:42 tswett: often a forgetful functor is called 'U'; if the free functor is called F then it reads like F -| U which in English sounds like a crude insult. "You can't remember which way around a free-forgetful adjunction goes? Well, F -| U !" < 1468117794 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1468117803 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you ever try to explain monads using join rather than bind? < 1468117815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Only to myself. < 1468117823 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it would be helpful < 1468117830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: I used to not think it was a good approach, but then thinking about Applicative for a while made me think it would be good. < 1468117854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to write your do-expressions using Applicative as much as possible, and only using join where you're forced to. < 1468117868 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. join (f <$> x <*> y <*> z) < 1468117872 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1468117879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since join is expensive and special. < 1468117879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ApplicativeDo hth < 1468117887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can think of it as a "choke point" or something. < 1468117894 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn forall a.a < 1468117894 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1468117896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know, I was a proponent of ApplicativeDo years before it was written. < 1468117902 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "special" that really gets me there < 1468117904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1468117922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin proposed it in #haskell originally, if I remember correctly. < 1468117925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1468117937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I proposed a jammed up version that doesn't use tuples. < 1468117942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it actually gets translated... < 1468117958 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :because maybe it would be easier to explain the magicness of IO with join < 1468117964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither but i think they wrote a paper about it < 1468117992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1468117999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't hth < 1468118008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like we know who the paper expert here is < 1468118031 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it noah bennett < 1468118039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it. < 1468118052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I write up my ideas as papers rather than blabbering in IRC? < 1468118057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one write papers, anyway? < 1468118059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn forall a. a -> a < 1468118059 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = a < 1468118065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had some good ideas occasionally. < 1468118065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh it does support forall < 1468118072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was hoping it'd answer undefined < 1468118077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It supports forall, but only in a boring way. < 1468118079 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I believe is the only term with that type < 1468118083 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it considers it cheating < 1468118088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's the one thing I'd hope that djinn wouldn't answer. hht < 1468118092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1468118101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess my coin flipped badly < 1468118119 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually there are many things I'd hope that it wouldn't answer. Like f = f < 1468118175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: with LaTeX hth < 1468118208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: djinn will not give answers containing bottoms, afaik < 1468118210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Djinn is a theorem prover for a consistent logic. < 1468118218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i it can even generate a proof of that fact < 1468118231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1468118326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: somewhere, there's a bullet with your gödel number on it hth < 1468118344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1468118355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty big bullet, i guess. < 1468118418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1468118452 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/DexterAndSinister_HeraldicEscutcheon.png can help with your mnemonic hth < 1468118472 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s is on the right < 1468118669 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468118961 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://prntscr.com/bqyvw4 Sneak Peek :D < 1468119400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i assume that's viewed from the shield carrier, then. < 1468119428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the point is, just think of that picture and your mnemonic will be fine < 1468119439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oKaY < 1468119441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively all your mnemonics will be permanently messed up < 1468119456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep sinister wisdom < 1468119479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468119498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do you recommend the book _Bend Sinister_ twh < 1468119577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1468119593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dystopias is so last century < 1468119633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book do you recommend instead < 1468119727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :winnie the pooh hth < 1468119739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :already read it hth < 1468119745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1468119762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also here's your mnemonic: retractions are free < 1468119793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1468119793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sections are forgetful < 1468119797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why you need a retraction < 1468119814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like that one, how about: retractions are forgetful, and sections are cofree < 1468119851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, if you compose them in the opposite order -- s . r -- you get an idempotent < 1468119859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the idempotent which is split < 1468119860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Cafreine is the favorite drug of category theorists. < 1468119868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cafreine': Cafreine is the favorite drug of category theorists. < 1468119880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's perfectly legitimate to consider the retraction to be on the right and the section on the left < 1468119882 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1468119949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a retraction has a right inverse < 1468119953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is a retraction free, anyway < 1468119961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a section has a sinister inverse < 1468119964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a left adjoint < 1468119970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a boring way < 1468119980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: problem? < 1468120005 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: IRON CHICKEN < 1468120031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( did trollface get into unicode yet? ) < 1468120037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode TROLLFACE < 1468120055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468120059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode TROLL < 1468120067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F68E TROLLEYBUS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 9a 8e UTF-16BE: d83dde8e Decimal: 🚎 \ 🚎 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F6D2 SHOPPING TROLLEY \ UTF-8: f0 9f 9b 92 UTF-16BE: d83dded2 Decimal: 🛒 \ 🛒 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1468120091 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably in the norwegian section hth < 1468120104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i retract that statement < 1468120116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does this mean every idempotent is also a monad in a boring way < 1468120182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode TROLL | grep -i face < 1468120188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468120258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...probably. < 1468120422 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bnmxxwwubbqmqjfn JOIN :#esoteric < 1468120489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, i was thinking the answer was yes, but maybe there's something wrong with my reasoning < 1468120520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since in a discrete category I imagine the only monad is the identity monad. < 1468120525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did my stackoverflow answer get linked somewhere? < 1468120528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what category was I even talking about? < 1468120536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1468120540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stackoverfloerjan < 1468120556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32931549/to-what-extent-are-applicative-monad-instances-uniquely-determined/32932140#32932140 < 1468120575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got a bunch of new votes on it < 1468120584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your stack overfloweth < 1468120748 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of monads on a category with more than one object is at least one more than the number of final objects of that category. < 1468120754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The same questioner asked a duplicate of the same question, and linked to the previous one. < 1468120758 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/users/1333025/petr-pudl%C3%A1k < 1468120767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find it in the google cache if you know what search term to use < 1468120782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1468120812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=cache:stackoverflow.com/questions/38272545/are-monad-instances-uniquely-determined-by-their-applicative-instances < 1468120843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the questioner read your addendum and deleted the question or something. < 1468120844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found it from that pudlak link anyway. < 1468120905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplicates aren't deleted, although this particular one might be so close it just as well might be < 1468120908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you feel that it's unfair that your answer was voted higher than pigworker's fancy dependent type answer < 1468120924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That duplicate seems to have been turned into a redirect. < 1468120925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not really. < 1468120929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is as good as deleting. < 1468120964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: possibly you don't have enough rep to see the original. < 1468120975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not even logged in < 1468120976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(neener neener) < 1468121029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I logged in and now I can see the duplicate question. < 1468121035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you pleased with yourself? < 1468121088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i expect people with slightly less than pigworker's brain (me included) will find my answer more enlightening to start with. < 1468121101 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468121106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, pigworker is doing the container thing. < 1468121113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~psztxa/publ/tlca03.pdf < 1468121142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said ME INCLUDED, thx < 1468121143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was all about those things a while ago. < 1468121163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you were a functor pro < 1468121176 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigworker is too good < 1468121214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pledge: I will stop doing edits to fix obvious bugs in other people's answers. They're never accepted and I just lose my temper. (Sorry about that last one.)" < 1468121218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look who's retired < 1468121234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are you pleased with yourself? <-- . o O ( darn, missed ) < 1468121274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1468121279 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468121291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was long before i retired. also my stackoverflow retirement could in theory be temporary. if i ever catch up with /r/haskell < 1468121316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if Haskell doesn't implode before i do it. < 1468121318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to catch up with /r/haskell < 1468121326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't even looked at it in months < 1468121330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's gone down the drain < 1468121334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like everything in the world < 1468121348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :things were all better in the good old days, when there was no one on my lawn < 1468121350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i heard rumors it had. < 1468121384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i continued catching up anyway. < 1468121481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do see traces of trolls, mostly deleted. < 1468121507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course i only read a small fraction. < 1468121563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm getting to the point where i should start seeing if the rumors are overblown or not. < 1468121592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka mid May) < 1468121637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google neverhood drain < 1468121638 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4MARAsx1Vo < 1468121670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like that < 1468121696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should join #haskell if you want evidence hth < 1468121964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have no doubt _some_ haskell fora have gone down the drain. i've heard rumors bout twitter... < 1468121975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, *read < 1468121984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+a < 1468122062 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn bout < 1468122064 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "bout" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1468122064 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bout < 1468122064 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: (sports) a division during which one team is on the < 1468122064 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : offensive [syn: {turn}, {bout}, {round}] < 1468122064 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: a period of illness; "a bout of fever"; "a bout of < 1468122066 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5 @more lines] < 1468122071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1468122071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : depression" < 1468122071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: a contest or fight (especially between boxers or wrestlers) < 1468122072 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4: an occasion for excessive eating or drinking; "they went on a < 1468122074 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bust that lasted three days" [syn: {bust}, {tear}, {binge}, < 1468122076 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {bout}] < 1468122090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of those are the meaning of "bout" I know. < 1468122094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess 2 is the closest. < 1468122109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bout of right < 1468124182 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468124317 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the bot that interprets esolangs still in this chan? < 1468124372 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1468124731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but HackEgo has a port of most of it < 1468124751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! unlambda ``.H.ii < 1468124753 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1468124796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and fungot does brainfuck and underload, of course < 1468124796 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! filthy medal! i won't forget this! < 1468124813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i don't think i generally do, no < 1468124813 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but, we are far outnumbered! clear, too! ayla have fun! i heard you were to be executed, dear! < 1468124829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ul ``.H.ii < 1468124829 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: url pl < 1468124834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Hi)S < 1468124834 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1468124834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1468124844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't lambdabot have unlmabda at one point < 1468124846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as written by oerjan < 1468124851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda ``.H.ii < 1468124851 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hi < 1468124855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1468124858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy < 1468124879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlamba `.øi < 1468124879 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : unlambda: Unknown operator '\184' < 1468124913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's utf-8 clean. < 1468124943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was a good thing for my self-interpreter... < 1468124965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has a Self interpreter too? < 1468124987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pun was also too easy hth < 1468125022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok, i have two swats in my scrollback < 1468125030 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does it have a c interpreter? < 1468125031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll keep me going < 1468125043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1468125065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c printf("Hi!\n"); < 1468125066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: do you have any exciting computer science for me today < 1468125093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1468125097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1468125120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that feature was removed. < 1468125128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc printf("Hi!\n"); < 1468125129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not really, trying, possibly in vain, to generate a ttf that windows thinks is valid < 1468125130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:1: error: missing terminating " character \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1468125140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc printf("Hi!\\n"); < 1468125143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:1: error: missing terminating " character \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1468125148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1468125167 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that one has been very well written. < 1468125171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/cc < 1468125173 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$@" | sed 's/\\/\n/g' | gcc -w -Wfatal-errors -std=c11 -O2 -x c - -o /tmp/a.out && /tmp/a.out < 1468125204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1468125224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it replaces \ by \n? < 1468125227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1468125232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/c < 1468125232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/c: No such file or directory < 1468125250 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's intending to replace "\\" by '\n'. < 1468125253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may have been yet another variant. < 1468125276 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes. that still doesn't sound like a good idea. < 1468125299 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc int puts(const char*);int main(){puts("Hello, world!");} < 1468125307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1468125321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the point is you cannot get an actual \ in there... < 1468125334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is rather bad for c. < 1468125342 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts("hello\n")}"; /tmp/a.out < 1468125349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​: In function ‘main’: \ :1:17: error: ‘hellon’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ :1:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ :1:24: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘}’ token \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /tmp/a.out: No such file or directory < 1468125359 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts("hello\\n")}"; /tmp/a.out < 1468125361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be s/ \\\\ /\n/, obviously. < 1468125364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​: In function ‘main’: \ :1:1: error: stray ‘\’ in program \ :1:17: error: ‘hello’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ :1:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ :1:23: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘n’ \ :1:25: error: expected < 1468125365 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there always digraphs? < 1468125375 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts(\"hello\\n\")}"; /tmp/a.out < 1468125376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: `! already handles that case. < 1468125381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​: In function ‘main’: \ :1:27: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘}’ token \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /tmp/a.out: No such file or directory < 1468125393 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts(\"hello\\n\");}"; /tmp/a.out < 1468125401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main(){puts("hello\n")} < 1468125407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1468125411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1468125417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1468125420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main(){puts("hello\\n")} < 1468125422 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one compiled? < 1468125424 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1468125431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW WHAT < 1468125446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c int main(){puts("hello\\n");} < 1468125451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1468125454 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your `! c dhould print the error message < 1468125485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it's ported from old EgoBot, which had a feature that made the error message useless. < 1468125499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, it tried to compile in two different ways) < 1468125591 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<'int main(){puts("hello\n");}'; /tmp/a.out < 1468125595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1468125631 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tcc -v < 1468125633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: tcc: command not found < 1468125637 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1468125655 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with tcc you can have it compile and run in one command < 1468125677 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like tcc < 1468125705 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like the ttc < 1468125737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; ls c* < 1468125739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :calc \ card-by-name \ cAt \ catcat \ cats \ cc \ cd \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ ciol \ ciolf \ cmd \ cmds \ coins \ complain \ complaints \ ctof \ culprits \ culprits-c \ culprits-ng \ cwlprits < 1468125766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/ciol < 1468125768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ciol: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0xac2b92fce7be4950dcebbfde3bfe866b1c1fb9aa, not stripped < 1468125779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _think_ that's an esolang < 1468125788 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; ls *c < 1468125790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :calc \ cc \ culprits-c \ ftoc \ gs2c \ luac \ qc \ rec \ runc < 1468125801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1468125810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runc printf("Hi!\n"); < 1468125813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468125817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1468125825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/runc < 1468125826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/runc: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable < 1468125830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/runc < 1468125831 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ t=`tempfile` \ echo -e "$@" | gcc -trigraphs -o $t -x c - 2>/dev/null && $t \ rm $t < 1468125848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runc printf("Hi!\\n"); < 1468125850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468125853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1468125872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that one doesn't allow single instructions either. or print errors. < 1468125898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have 3 variants, none of which do that thing. < 1468125915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least) < 1468125925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sits back in lawn chair.
< 1468127731 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468128263 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468130392 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130392 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130392 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130392 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130392 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130392 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130392 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130392 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130393 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130393 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130393 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130393 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40b:704e:d648:8268 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130393 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130393 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130394 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130394 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130394 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130394 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130394 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130394 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-froxskwkssibuhvk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468130394 0 :Xe!znc@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :*.net *.split < 1468132662 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez, #KSPOfficial just became the trainspotting channel < 1468132717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: isn't that #trains < 1468132744 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, but for some reason KSPOfficial isn't talking about KSP < 1468133272 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468133568 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468140301 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468140879 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468141386 0 :TellsTogo!d458f1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.241.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468141664 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gopher Add an Interpreter to one of the bots :3 < 1468142360 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1468143194 0 :TellsTogo!d458f1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.241.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468143404 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, our set of C-running things is pretty deficient. < 1468143456 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, `! c *does* allow for "single instructions", sometimes. < 1468143459 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c printf("hello"); < 1468143464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1468143524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1468143535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't my version work... < 1468143572 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! printf("Hi!\n"); < 1468143574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/printf("Hi!: not found < 1468143579 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c printf("Hi!\n"); < 1468143582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1468143585 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c printf("Hi!\\n"); < 1468143591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1468143604 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i somehow never tried that with that command. < 1468143661 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any objections to fetching the https://github.com/izabera/candide stuff and replacing `cc with that? < 1468143672 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lol < 1468143682 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/configure < 1468143691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-10 08:41:24 URL:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/configure [863/863] -> "configure" [1] < 1468143697 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/candide-to-conf < 1468143699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type -a cc < 1468143700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-10 08:41:34 URL:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/candide-to-conf [755/755] -> "candide-to-conf" [1] < 1468143702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc is /hackenv/bin/cc \ cc is /usr/bin/cc < 1468143710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc doesn't seem like a good name hth < 1468143715 0 :kuroro_!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468143716 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fine. < 1468143722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's also runc < 1468143724 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody needs the actual cc for anything. < 1468143733 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it's called ,cc on ##c. :p < 1468143739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1468143751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of a use for the actual cc < 1468143760 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can put in the full path. < 1468143776 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash ./configure < 1468143780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok one objection: does it save files frequently < 1468143787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/fd/0:31:19: fatal error: uchar.h: No such file or directory \ compilation terminated. < 1468143795 0 :TellsTogo!d458f1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.241.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468143822 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does. < 1468143855 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has this fancy precompiled-headers trick that needs doing first. And also needs a bit of editing to get stuff from the command line. < 1468143855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that went well. < 1468143880 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix it. But I need to do breakfast now, apparently. < 1468143892 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1468143940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Bite < 1468144065 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We've got some houseguests.) < 1468144268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time fizzie < 1468144271 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Sun Jul 10 09:51:08 2016 < 1468144424 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144424 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40a1:9df4:882d:d800 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-froxskwkssibuhvk JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144445 0 :Xe!znc@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144446 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144446 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144446 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144446 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144446 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468144675 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv configure candide-to-conf share/ < 1468144679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468144694 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e '/uchar.h/d' share/configure < 1468144697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468144710 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ( cd share; bash ./configure ) < 1468144727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468144728 0 :TellsTogo!d458f1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.241.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468144788 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing you did it in a subshell < 1468144790 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod a+x share/candide < 1468144792 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of the consequences < 1468144792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468144857 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e /^c=/s/.*/c="$*"/ share/candide < 1468144861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 24: unknown option to `s' < 1468144881 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e '/^c=/s/.*/c="$*"/' share/candide < 1468144885 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468144908 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./share/candide 'printf("hello");' < 1468144911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc: error: printf("hello");: No such file or directory < 1468144947 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :u breakd it < 1468144986 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste ./share/candide < 1468144989 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/share/candide < 1468145006 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it also uses the args on the command line. < 1468145063 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be nice to support stuff like `cc -x -y --bloo printf("meh"); < 1468145119 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that'd involve actual work, so I think I'll just drop that. < 1468145136 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to pass those options to the compiler or to the compiled program? < 1468145145 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compiler. < 1468145149 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how ,cc works. < 1468145168 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/"${@--O0}"/-O0/' share/candide < 1468145171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468145176 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd look different, anyway, so can be done later. < 1468145182 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./share/candide 'printf("hello");' < 1468145190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1468145308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not build in /tmp? < 1468145325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these commits seem unnecessary. < 1468145332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, at least it's not autoconf. < 1468145339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By /tmp I mean tmp/. < 1468145340 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean /hackenv/tmp. < 1468145342 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1468145350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it sticks the $PWD inside the resulting "binary". < 1468145366 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the location of the precompiled headers. < 1468145424 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And `` mv tmp/foo share/foo is probably still the same as `` rm tmp/foo, which I probably would've forgotten when finished. < 1468145511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you`d´ve remembered. < 1468145755 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` c='-O2 --std=c99 printf("muh")'; args=""; while [[ "$c" =~ ^(-[^ ]*)\ (.*) ]]; do args="$args ${BASH_REMATCH[1]}"; c="${BASH_REMATCH[2]}"; done; echo "code [$c] args [$args]" < 1468145756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code [printf("muh")] args [ -O2 --std=c99] < 1468145803 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks at least plausible, if not particularly pretty. Though maybe a shifty thing would be better. < 1468146136 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e '12s/^/args=""; while [[ "$c" =~ ^(-[^ ]*)\\ (.*) ]]; do args="$args ${BASH_REMATCH[1]}"; c="${BASH_REMATCH[2]}"; done\n/' -e 's/-O0/${args--O0}/' share/candide # bleh < 1468146140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468146157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not sled < 1468146198 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./share/candide -O2 --std=c99 printf("I'm C99"); < 1468146199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `./share/candide -O2 --std=c99 printf("I'm C99");' < 1468146208 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./share/candide '-O2 --std=c99 printf("I'm C99");' < 1468146209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1468146217 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I brokeded it again. < 1468146244 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no -- I just can't quote. < 1468146252 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./share/candide '-O2 --std=c99 printf("whatever");' < 1468146258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/fd/0:1:48: error: one or more PCH files were found, but they were invalid \ /dev/fd/0:1:48: error: use -Winvalid-pch for more information \ /dev/fd/0:1:48: fatal error: headers: No such file or directory \ compilation terminated. < 1468146265 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice. < 1468146303 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, I'm not entirely sure about this precompiled trickery. At least it should have the fallback. < 1468146428 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the fox and the grapes < 1468146442 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e '1,+2d' -e '/SOURCE/,$d' share/configure > share/headers < 1468146446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468146457 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no write it on your machine < 1468146467 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./share/candide '-O2 --std=c99 printf("whatever");' < 1468146490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1468146491 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think there'd be this much to do, honestly. < 1468146559 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one thing it still needs is some way to do newlines (for preprocessor stuff) but one that fires only outside string/character literals. < 1468146634 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm share/configure share/candide-to-conf # hopefully won't need these any more < 1468146640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468147028 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` c='#include \n #include \n printf("zuul\nbuul");'; echo "$c" | sed -e 's/\("[^"]*\)\\n\([^"]*"\)/\1~n\2/g' -e 's/\\n/\n/g' -e 's/\("[^"]*\)~n\([^"]*"\)/\1\\n\2/g' < 1468147029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \ printf("zuul\nbuul"); < 1468147034 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if that would be good enough. < 1468147081 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468147246 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't work with multiple \n's inside a string literal, though. :/ < 1468147585 0 :TellsTogo!d458f1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.241.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468148118 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:55fb:7f32:cd73:cb04 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468148127 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468148399 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:55fb:7f32:cd73:cb04 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468149113 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468149366 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468149448 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i get some feedback? https://github.com/izabera/inutility < 1468149480 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 mini programs so far, 1625 lines of code including the makefile < 1468149515 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( why are you reinventing busybox? ) < 1468149522 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fun! < 1468149535 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and profit if someone wants to pay me for it < 1468149694 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1468149707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody please stop me from playing that euclid game. < 1468149719 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: stop playing that euclid game < 1468149794 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(progress: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/euclid.png ... and I'm not sure that all of these gold medels are actually possible since there is a bug that can be exploited to count fewer moves than have actually been made.) < 1468149802 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :medals. < 1468149846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(red numbers were added with gimp and indicate the target score) < 1468149947 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am surprised how it steadily gets better < 1468150018 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a state where you could actually produce a perpendicular line by dividing a straight line in half < 1468150037 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, "it". < 1468150043 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1468150091 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there *is* reason to distrust those records, thanks. < 1468150133 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also find the center of a circle by copying the cirle two times < 1468150150 0 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468150322 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though irritatingly the records I'm missing are the ones using just primitive tools... you'd think those would be more reliable. (I have not seriously thought about the regular pentagon yet) < 1468151878 0 :TellsTogo!d458f1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.241.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468151940 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U-A684 HOW CAN I DRAW THIS < 1468152175 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a combination of з and ж isn't it. < 1468152232 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhwe agrees < 1468152342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ørꚅn < 1468152362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's intended to be oerjan, not \oren\, of course) < 1468152375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe it's distorted enough to be ambiguous) < 1468152419 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꚅ < 1468152453 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: On the other hand, you have different fingers. < 1468152474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A685 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHWE] < 1468152495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjwhen? < 1468152518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :børgeois < 1468152614 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware of the børg < 1468152828 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468153995 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468154182 0 :kuroro_!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1468155371 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:61b6:a27e:4930:df9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468155653 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:61b6:a27e:4930:df9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468156463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x3220 0x3230 < 1468156520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​㈠㈡㈢㈣㈤㈥㈦㈧㈨㈩㈪㈫㈬㈭㈮㈯ \ ㈰ < 1468157103 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they add (character) for every possible character? < 1468157137 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just a lot of them < 1468157142 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also circles < 1468157170 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3200.pdf < 1468157223 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3300.pdf < 1468157280 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the two blocks of "ridiculous characters for compatibility with JIS and KS standards" < 1468159279 0 :kuroro_!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468159443 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468159990 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to generate a new ttf now < 1468160092 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "GeoGebra - Error: Please check your input: Undefined variable pointRight" < 1468160346 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah int-e fix yo shit < 1468160379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can click those away and continue playing. (also it's not my code) < 1468160394 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, these popups are really annoying. < 1468160474 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since they basically appear every time you click) < 1468160507 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far it's only been happening in one level. < 1468160521 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm going to be unhappy if I end up getting equally hooked up on this game. < 1468160604 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1468160726 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468162087 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468162422 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468162626 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f190:b271:9536:a746 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468162798 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468162906 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f190:b271:9536:a746 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468163266 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wee I broke a record < 1468163417 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468163508 0 :newbie!1f269658@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.38.150.88 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468163641 0 :newbie!1f269658@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.38.150.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1468163684 0 :newbie!1f269658@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.38.150.88 QUIT :Client Quit < 1468164273 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAARGH! < 1468164283 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed a `relcopportunity... < 1468165138 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so borry < 1468165400 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468165645 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bnmxxwwubbqmqjfn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1468165697 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468166177 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, damn fontforge < 1468166732 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. what are red characters? < 1468166794 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's something fishy going on with 南 and 西 in your mahjongcharacters hth < 1468167337 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1468167361 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+F813 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ef a0 93 UTF-16BE: f813 Decimal:  \  () \ Uppercase: U+F813 \ Category: Co (Other, Private Use) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1468167391 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: perhaps all red characters are private use ones < 1468167427 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𝔆 < 1468167437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1D506 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9d 94 86 UTF-16BE: d835dd06 Decimal: 𝔆 \ 𝔆 (𝔆) \ Uppercase: U+1D506 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1468167451 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not that one. < 1468167477 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :red could also be a fading out green :P < 1468167566 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all either private use or nonexistent < 1468167779 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𐀀 < 1468167782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+10000 LINEAR B SYLLABLE B008 A] < 1468168247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA WHY IS FONTFORGE HATING ME < 1468168253 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT CRASHED < 1468168291 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you drew a bad character that needed to be punished < 1468168886 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468169659 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468169885 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:7047:d9dc:2a97:6d1d JOIN :#esoteric < 1468170020 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. SGDQ amazing this summer. < 1468170044 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously good runs. < 1468170050 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also a few bad ones.) < 1468170083 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468170160 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:7047:d9dc:2a97:6d1d QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468170996 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DECAY CHICKEN < 1468171175 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-213-128.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468171612 0 :papa10!~papa10@15.ip-164-132-106.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1468171726 0 :papa10!~papa10@15.ip-164-132-106.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468171762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY FONTFORGE DID NOT CRASH! < 1468171768 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1468172049 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...this is april 1st, right? < 1468172458 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1468172587 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1468173282 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468173290 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not. < 1468173395 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Bluh. Is there any way to see of your existing medals whether they're primitive or not? < 1468173417 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what medals? < 1468173456 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468173475 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: only when you have two of them < 1468173488 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468173492 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then the left one is the all tools one) < 1468173514 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. I can't remember whether I've done some primitives-only. Though I guess most likely not. < 1468173681 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and for most levels you can compare the scores to the best known ones < 1468173723 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, what's this? < 1468173732 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: http://euclidthegame.com/ < 1468173766 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 3-move medal for level 4 but also no recollection of how it happened, and when I went to revisit it again, I always seem to take 4 moves now. < 1468173930 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that thing work? < 1468173975 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, how do you draw a circle with a given length? < 1468173979 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :click click click curse click click click < 1468174009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to pick a radius by selecting two points (or creating them) < 1468174036 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um, but I select three points in what order? < 1468174045 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a center and a distance that doesn't start from the center < 1468174048 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to copy a segment < 1468174054 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: you'll get that later < 1468174077 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I need to unlock a tool to get a fucking compass? < 1468174078 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the primitive circle is a collapsing circle... it can't copy lengths. < 1468174081 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it even euclid that way? < 1468174090 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I know it can be emulated with a collapsing compass < 1468174090 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, compass. < 1468174095 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then they shouldn't call it euclid < 1468174103 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's not the primitives Euclid decided are canon < 1468174225 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compass-and-straightedge_construction "The compass is assumed to collapse when lifted from the page, so may not be directly used to transfer distances." < 1468174230 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, even Wikipedia thinks that's canon. < 1468174238 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa... < 1468174239 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strang < 1468174252 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The modern compass generally does not collapse and several modern constructions use this feature. It would appear that the modern compass is a "more powerful" instrument than the ancient collapsing compass. However, by Proposition 2 of Book 1 of Euclid's Elements, no power is lost by using a collapsing compass." < 1468174276 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1468174282 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know Euclid worked that way < 1468174295 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: There's something wrong. I did level 4 with "all tools" in 3 moves, and it said "perfect, minumum number of moves", but my medals still say "(3) (4)". < 1468174325 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is giving me error messages < 1468174330 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on level 5 < 1468174333 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two of the levels did. < 1468174344 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the bar only updates when you switch levels < 1468174376 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I did. It's still that way. But I guess the (3) is then the all-tools, and maybe I got confused and thought otherwise. < 1468174402 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy game < 1468174407 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for linking to it < 1468174409 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the first one is the all tools number, yes < 1468174495 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which, irritatingly, requires at least one of the advanced tools to be used) < 1468174556 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 6 is the first where I'd really want to use a non-collapsing compass < 1468174559 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be so much easier < 1468174638 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait till you get to level 11 < 1468174659 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1468174673 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468174693 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine how I do this level 6 without a collapsible compass in only 4 moves of primitives (probably pretty obvious in hindsight) < 1468174724 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468174772 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried to add a primitive-moves solution to 6, and used 7 moves. I'm not sure I can be bothered to finish all-primitives. < 1468174824 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, can't I make a full line through two points in one step? < 1468174828 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just strange < 1468174839 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: agreed < 1468175045 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also presumably from Euclid's list of postulates. < 1468175048 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interface is quite well done though < 1468175068 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's well done when it's not throwing up error messages on every operation. < 1468175072 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468175125 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the lines thing leads to some awkward moments, for example in level 8, where the optimal solution, as far as I can tell, requires moving the initial points around < 1468175162 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you can move the canvas, and even zoom, it seems < 1468175178 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can move the points themselves < 1468175262 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :panning and zooming was to be expected... < 1468175284 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've uploaded a new version < 1468175306 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It links to https://www.geogebra.org/ which is I guess the toolkit it's built on. < 1468175315 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huih, it says "well done" but doesn't offer me to move to the next level < 1468175319 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from level 8 < 1468175351 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "well done" occasionally for individual points, if that's what you're seeing. < 1468175368 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1468175373 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have to draw the segment < 1468175383 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if there's already a half-line there < 1468175399 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's a bit silly. < 1468175421 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know, the only way I've done level 8 is the silly way. < 1468175555 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thenew characters: < 1468175557 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋀㋁㋂㋃㋄㋅㋆㋇㋈㋉㋊㋋㉈㉉㉊㉋㉌㉍㉎㉏㉐㍿㎍㎎㎏㎐㎑㎒㎓㎔㎕㎖㎗㎘ < 1468175560 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㏠㏡㏢㏣㏤㏥㏦㏧㏨㏩㏪㏫㏬㏭㏮㏯㏰㏱㏲㏳㏴㏵㏶㏷㏸㏹㏺㏻㏼㏽㏾ < 1468175563 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㊀㊁㊂㊃㊄㊅㊆㊇㊈㊉㊊㊋㊌㊍㊎㊏㊐㈠㈡㈢㈣㈤㈥㈦㈧㈨㈩㈪㈫㈬㈭㈮㈯㈰ < 1468175566 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꝽꝾꝿꞀꞁꞂꞃꞄꞅꞆꞇꞈ꞉꞊ꞋꞌꞍꞎꞏꞐꞑꞒꞓꞔꞕꞖꞗꞘꞙꞚꞛꞜꞝꞞꞟꞠꞡꞢꞣꞤꞥꞦꞧꞨꞩꞪꞫꞬꞭꞮꞰꞱꞲꞳꞴꞵꞶꞷꟷꟸꟹꟺꟻꟼꟽꟾꟿ < 1468175570 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙞꙟꙠꙡꙢꙣꙤꙥꙦꙧꚀꚁꚂꚃꚄꚅꚆꚇꚈꚉꚊꚋꚌꚍꚎꚏꚐꚑꚒꚓꚔꚕꚖꚗꚘꚙꚚꚛ։֊ՙ՚՛՜՝՞՟ < 1468175573 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎾⎿⏀⏁⏂⏃⏄⏅⏆⏇⏈⏉⏊⏋⏌⏍⏎⏏⏐⏑⏒⏓⏔⏕⏖⏗⏘⏙⏚⏛⏜⏝⏞⏟⏠⏡⏢⏣ < 1468175589 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Théoden Ednew. < 1468175596 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just free-associating from "thenew".) < 1468175675 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah great, so level 9 is to do a non-collapsible compass < 1468175680 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it gives that as a tool then < 1468175798 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! why isn't the reset button on the toolbar? it keeps putting down points when I try to click there < 1468175801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does, fully functional after level 11 < 1468176116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with these characters you can give the date: ㍻28年㋆㏩㈰ < 1468176140 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468176169 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468176233 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold medal is difficult < 1468176284 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1468176292 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an interface to go to the first level I haven't solved yet? < 1468176301 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it lists only the levels I solved on the left sidebar < 1468176336 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can guess the link: http://euclidthegame.com/Tutorial/ http://euclidthegame.com/Level/ < 1468176337 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can type the number in the url, but there should be an easier way < 1468176342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1468176359 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it assumes that you can only reach a level if you have solved the previous one < 1468176372 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I initially missed the tutorial that way. < 1468176627 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a midpoint or mid-perpendicular level? there could be one early < 1468176662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, level 16 doesn't say "well done" when I construct the center of the circle < 1468176685 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't resize the canvas, right? < 1468176719 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can... shift+scroll wheel of the mouse? < 1468176728 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there is a midpoint < 1468176744 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that seems to zoom for me < 1468176751 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not resize the area on the screen < 1468176771 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. < 1468176781 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a lot of non-primitives. it feels like cheating < 1468176792 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much geometry; the effect is "similar" ;-) < 1468176886 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually zooming the whole page works for me (firefox) < 1468176895 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1468177015 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1468177076 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, first interesting level < 1468177184 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468177342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468177394 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468177576 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second interesting level < 1468177738 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that was most rewarding to solve, so far, was the primitive version of the incircle one < 1468177761 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(level 15) < 1468177771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I see < 1468177801 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing level 24, any any of these so far are easy if you just want any solution, not a low move count one < 1468177829 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think that will change in higher levels < 1468177871 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there keyboard shortcuts for the tools? < 1468177926 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! regular pentagon (level 25) < 1468177929 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting nontrivial < 1468177949 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 is the last one though < 1468178018 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? aren't there like 60 levels? < 1468178099 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... let me think, how do I construct one of these beasts < 1468178122 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 50 medals, 2 per level (minus 1 for level 1, plus 1 for the tutorial) < 1468178153 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get a medal for level 1 < 1468178157 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least it shows up < 1468178163 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a gold medal in fact < 1468178241 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still trying to think of how to construct a regular pentagon without going insane with a hundred of points on the screen < 1468178250 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't spoil it) < 1468178337 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the record is 10, so there has to be a way < 1468178476 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468178503 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I look up something in a geometry book for it, is that cheating? < 1468178518 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's on my shelf just right here < 1468179009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's up to you < 1468179027 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remembered a construction, that's not really better than looking one up :P < 1468179055 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do this procedure, but then I wouldn't naturally end up with the pentagon in the given circle, so I'd have to copy the angle < 1468179143 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, I could construct it so the angle appears there < 1468179165 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this one of those levels that give an error message each step? < 1468179170 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1468179179 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1468179205 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 and 25. < 1468179788 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still trying to beat 2 < 1468179789 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 < 1468179819 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any opinion on solvability of level 14 (tangent at a point) in 4 primitive steps? < 1468179835 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't realize until now that you could move the initial points.) < 1468179851 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that says the record is 4 < 1468179851 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, in 3... I can do 4. < 1468179852 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1468179855 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the record is 3 < 1468179856 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that yes < 1468179878 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468179895 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm having a really hard time believing that is possible. < 1468179908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: let me see < 1468179934 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really managed any optimal primitive solutions ('cept levels 2 and 3). < 1468179941 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't feel qualified to have an opinion. < 1468179985 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it give any obvious feedback somewhere for whether I've used only primitive tools? < 1468179995 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prints the number of moves, but not whether they're primitive < 1468180007 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it doesn't. < 1468180084 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/euclid.png is my progress (I've been on this since Tuesday, I think... spent way too many hours thinking about these things) < 1468180125 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What does the red scribbled 5 mean for level 12? < 1468180142 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the official record is worse than my own solution < 1468180188 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I moved one of the initial points... if one doesn't, it's one more step) < 1468180221 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otoh, some of the best solutions seem to require moving the initial points... so... I guess 4 would be accepted) < 1468180239 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468180255 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have moved points, but I haven't done solutions where that's required yet < 1468180286 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best primitve solution for level 8 would be my first candidate... pretty sure it's required there < 1468180287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you have a mouse that can move to complex coordinates, you probably never need to move < 1468180322 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but the branching factor of these constructions is surprisingly big so my intuition may have pruned some viable route of attack) < 1468180341 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one level where you would have to move, but the default placement is good so you don't have to < 1468180399 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in level 8 the problem is that you only have a short segment of what ought to be a line... and the final result needs to be an actual segment. you can save one ray by moving the initial points) < 1468180421 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I think I've played this before < 1468180451 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see, level 8 might be helped by moving I guess < 1468180452 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try < 1468180577 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1468180582 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should solve the pentagon first < 1468180881 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! I keep not getting a pentagon < 1468180928 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1468181334 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this doesn't work either < 1468181338 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to find some other way < 1468181389 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see, I'm stupid, it can't work < 1468181512 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468182001 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! frustrating < 1468182108 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468182180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Boyss 5* 10New user account < 1468182266 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 is HARD! < 1468182275 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there's supposed to be an easy way, but I can't figure it out < 1468182293 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468182344 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1468182408 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468182599 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Boyss < 1468182657 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have created a language but my skills in english aren't great. Will it be very bad if article on the wiki will contain some issues? < 1468182679 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a wiki, people can fix it < 1468182694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468182728 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k thx < 1468182794 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: YOU TRAITOR < 1468182848 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/relcome < 1468182853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/relcome < 1468182862 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/relcome < 1468182864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainwords < 1468182871 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: it's just timeout, redo it < 1468182879 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Boyss < 1468182880 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: process was killed for timeout, that's why no output < 1468182883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Boyss: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1468182888 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH MY EYES < 1468182934 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE GOGGLES, THEY DO NOTHING < 1468182962 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember "is it a good idea to microwave this" < 1468182966 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yes < 1468183688 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a good idea to microwave the server on which HackEgo runs on as punishment for the rainbow? < 1468183773 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sure can't slow it down < 1468183930 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I'm not sure there's an easy way... all constructions of the regular pentagon that I've seen do something with the golden ratio. < 1468184007 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468184017 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I mean look at this list: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TrigonometryAnglesPi5.html < 1468184135 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there yet a language where the whole code is only names of variables? < 1468184152 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well sure it has to do with the golden ratio < 1468184688 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468184692 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyss: Make one up. < 1468184696 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you know how) < 1468184735 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyss: do the one-instruction computers where all the arguments are memory addresses count? < 1468184742 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/argument/operand/ < 1468184773 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@zzo38 that's the plan i was only wondering if it would be cool to name it like "only names of variables" < 1468184773 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1468184812 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's the plan i was only wondering if it would be cool to name it like "only names of variables" < 1468184824 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I thought of that, but that includes jumps too, so I don't know if it is how Boyss wants; also if they have self-modifying codes < 1468184891 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: idk (yet) but thanks for trace < 1468184897 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can get one without jumps if there's an implicit loop around the whole thing (and possible conditional execution but that's not necessary), though it might be ugly and feel cheating (such as if it's based on a single instruction that does too many things or uses magical memory addresses) < 1468184904 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if it uses relative addressing, it look like it isn't really just variable names, to me. < 1468184932 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I do believe that such a programming language that Boyss is asking for would be a OISC, just not the existing one. < 1468184932 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: my undocumented stupid single-instruction language uses absolute addressing, but it also has special registers < 1468184954 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, special memory-mapped registers that is < 1468184959 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Document it please. < 1468184971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's a stupid one < 1468184973 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a better one < 1468184986 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, then make a better one and document the better one please. < 1468184990 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1468185051 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't one of ais's languages, like 3SP or those permutation thingies, already work though? < 1468185097 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyss: does it have to be Turing-complete or something? or would a language with the power level of about HQ9+ count? < 1468185112 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like TOGA computer, but that one must include instruction labels as well as variable names < 1468185132 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ofc it would be pretty easy if it didn't have to be TC < 1468185242 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I think that a harvard TOGA computer could be implemented by 74xx series without so much difficulty (it won't be Turing-complete of course); you need a presettable binary counter, the ROM, RAM, clock input, and a few other gates. < 1468185304 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1468185313 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468185355 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyas: would it count if the source code is all variables separated by spaces or newlines, so that there are multiple instructions that are chosen from how many variables are on a line? like, a one-arg instruction, a two-arg instruction, a three-arg instruction, and a four-arg instruction? < 1468185421 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so in that case then it isn't OISC < 1468185440 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, but OISC isn't strictly what Boyss asked < 1468185461 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also have non-oisc by having the first appearance of the variable be special (like it's a definition, and later it's a use) < 1468185564 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that < 1468185567 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more easily, if there are pre-defined primitives, but none have special syntax, so each could be defined in the language under another name, and maybe even the name can be shadowed by other names, then do those names count as variables? < 1468185576 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a mistake by saying it must be OISC < 1468185631 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was thinking that the program would simply consist of a list of variable names, where a variable name is like a JavaScript symbol value < 1468185632 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the first variable be application, the second be S and the third be K... < 1468185654 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cheating... but what, exactly, is the definition of a variable name?) < 1468185784 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even make it a bit more interesting by allowing definitions of new combinators A S K I A A S K K (A=application, S = S, K = K, I = S K K, ...) < 1468185848 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, something forth-like could work < 1468185887 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I was thinking of First, but it has too much syntax built-in to make me count everything a variable < 1468185919 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is First not on the wiki? or do I know the name wrong? < 1468185940 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :name's first, and it's not on the wiki yet because it's in the todo at http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:B_jonas < 1468186307 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: otoh, eodermdrone without input would need two different separators, but it would still count as an oisc < 1468186326 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean eodermdrone without input or output < 1468186361 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :those permutation thingies? MiniMAX? < 1468186398 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1468186429 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a non-self-modifying string rewriting language? still two separators, but you could count the characters in the strings variables, and it's still an oisc < 1468186445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with fixed string replacement < 1468186552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the rot13 of ø ̷b ? < 1468186606 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we trying to minimize number of symbols? < 1468186659 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh trting to make it all variable names < 1468186660 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the rot13 of ø is ø and if you have a text with lots of numbers or ø or other characters that rot13 passes through then you should use a different substitution cipher < 1468186677 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :id say 3sp does qualify < 1468186696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> (x + 13) `mod` 10) [0..9] < 1468186698 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2] < 1468186710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously that's how you rot13 digits. < 1468186749 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvi < 1468186793 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 3SP is not known to be Turing-complete, but I think it might not count even if we know it was < 1468186794 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, rot5 would more in the spirig of the cipher < 1468186849 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not bjonas? < 1468186855 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyss: I think you nerd sniped me with that simple question < 1468186881 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm not sure, maybe it would actually count < 1468186910 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas sorry I'll try to make it easy soon < 1468186964 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ok, I guess I'm stupid, 3SP would count if we knew it was Turing-complete < 1468187004 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: its totally a semantic question. do we distinguish between "variable name" and "memory address" or not? < 1468187103 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is almost certainly tc < 1468187114 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I dunno < 1468187246 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think alex has like 95% of a bct to 3sp compiler < 1468187274 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"95%" hehe < 1468187358 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a proper name for binary "digits" in english? < 1468187371 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits < 1468187374 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1468187384 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean digit numerals? < 1468187385 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks thats the one < 1468187414 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468187545 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people call hexadecimal digits "hexits" so maybe we could call binary ones "binits" < 1468187607 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ name for binary digits < 1468187616 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just call them digits < 1468187787 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1468187908 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie people said you wrote this, can you explain it? #define container_of(ptr, type, member) (type *)((char *)(1 ? (ptr) : &((type *)0)->member) - offsetof(type, member)) < 1468187909 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468188039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I've forgotten. What are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1468188039 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468188098 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie nevermind, they showed me the logs < 1468188098 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468188329 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i alsondisagree with rot5. since 13 and 5 are both relatively örime, there should be an X with rotX satisfying both digits and letters < 1468188462 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, you want rot-65? < 1468188680 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an easy way to format my whole code to code on wiki (with spaces at the left)? Should i even paste the implementation in the article? < 1468188803 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: why not? < 1468189313 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a good reason, give me a couple of years to come up with one... < 1468189349 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468189383 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyss: just put a space before each line? usually works, depending on what's in your code. if it's not enough, add some around parts that are interpreted as wiki syntax < 1468189484 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you i meant like without clicking bc it's not that short. I have done that by hand but in the preview it doesn't show my double ' < 1468189519 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyss: use for that < 1468189547 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it now thanks < 1468189618 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468189845 0 :kozisyr!~KVIrc@216.227.112.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468189854 0 :kozisyr!~KVIrc@216.227.112.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one choose a programming paradigm that best solves a problem---what's a good strategy, method, to follow? < 1468189894 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do oop. done. < 1468189896 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kozisyr: just use the latest and greatest fancy magic bullet paradigm, it solves everything < 1468189952 0 :kozisyr!~KVIrc@216.227.112.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh < 1468189964 0 :kozisyr!~KVIrc@216.227.112.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously < 1468189983 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1468189990 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need a good meta-paradigm < 1468189997 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have those < 1468189997 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a article I made a list of steps like how does the language work and in the preview all my newlines are gone doesn't help. How to fix that? I looked at other articles and there it worked < 1468190032 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boyss: do not indent if you want newlines to work < 1468190052 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use starting * for bullet list, or starting # for numbered list < 1468190060 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some html tags work too < 1468190164 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try that < 1468190288 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you please show me an example of a numbered list? < 1468190300 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#foo < 1468190301 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#bar < 1468190390 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god sorry i forgot to erase my from there ... Thank you for help < 1468190797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Onov14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47342 5* 03Boyss 5* (+3712) 10There is a language called ONOV < 1468190939 0 :kozisyr!~KVIrc@216.227.112.67 QUIT : < 1468191081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Onov14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47343&oldid=47342 5* 03Boyss 5* (+0) 10Added more information about which lenghts of code will produce infinite cat programs < 1468191215 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468191218 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you all for helping me I finished the article it would be cool if you checked it out < 1468191776 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1468191779 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468191832 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468192100 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468192995 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468193025 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468193054 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468193063 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468193067 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468193152 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468193165 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468193262 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468193267 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468193314 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1468193886 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468193962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Motoku 5* 10New user account < 1468193966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1468194118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47344&oldid=47298 5* 03Motoku 5* (+99) 10added link to brainfuck interpreter < 1468194464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think you`d´ve remembered. <-- my experience says one always remembers - 1-10 seconds too late. < 1468194566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan `neener´ < 1468194570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1468194715 0 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Quit: Who turned this off?! D:< < 1468194716 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468194805 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468195651 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have the slanted apostrophes keymapped or something? < 1468195707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : beware of the børg <-- resistænce is futile. yøu will be åssimilæted. < 1468195764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: maybe he's using an apple product and he can't _avoid_ making them < 1468195775 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wat < 1468195789 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468195790 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that really a thing < 1468195813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you see the complaint about getting smart quotes when cutting and pasting JSON. < 1468195833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well, in spirit of exaggeration, at least. < 1468195861 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1468195870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or wasn't that on this channel? i think it was here, but i could be confusing with reddit.) < 1468195890 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :true this channel is like...identical to reddit eh < 1468195924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it was \oren\ two days ago. < 1468195949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:59:35 <\oren\> We had problems recently with spamert quotation marks showing up in JSON < 1468195952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:59:52 <\oren\> because apple are idiots < 1468195955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:00:29 <\oren\> who subsitute quotes with smart quotes when you copypaste text from one window to anohter < 1468195964 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468196002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i've not seen that much MtG discussion on reddit so clearly you are speaking nonsense hth < 1468196003 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468196003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's called a backtick hth < 1468196067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The intradisciplinary hub of solidity matrices and esoteric magic card design and deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1468196084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now much more accurate. < 1468196116 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can tell when i'm being sarcastic when what i'm saying sounds like nonsense hth < 1468196139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely suspects the topic may have said something like that before.
< 1468196149 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: one of them is. do you call the other one a "forward tick"? < 1468196150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hey it didn't seem like _total_ nonsense. < 1468196168 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i also sometimes flag sarcasm with "eh" < 1468196170 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh, the other one. < 1468196181 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode ´ < 1468196199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i just thought you'd been conversing too much with canadians. < 1468196240 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not enough conversing with canadians, unfortunately. perhaps i shall move to canada to increase the quantity of canadian conversation? < 1468196242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00B4 ACUTE ACCENT] < 1468196243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: anyway it was the kind of comment that could have been on reddit. < 1468196261 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1468196272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes, but that may not always work, see `? oren < 1468196277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1468196278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I just have a cute accent. < 1468196285 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a. < 1468196317 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not as cute as pikhcute < 1468196318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you actually < 1468196335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, how can I tell? < 1468196357 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: record yourself. send it to oerjan. i'll accept his judgment. < 1468196363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably cannot. this needs a native american english speaker. < 1468196373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some people in this channel have heard my accent. < 1468196383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION noticed half way through that "english speaker" was not redundant.
< 1468196384 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what makes an accent "cute" though. < 1468196399 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you're saying mine isn't. < 1468196406 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: native americans did not traditionally speak english hth. (their english is also not exceptional or exceptionable.) < 1468196461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sicks a purple people eater on quintopia
< 1468196463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sics < 1468196484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sicks [sic] < 1468196491 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why do you think they're purple?) < 1468196509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't sic oerjan's spelling. < 1468196544 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468196553 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i sick it? < 1468196587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : can i sick [sic] it? < 1468196590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sic transit gloria mundi < 1468196639 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now i want to find a story with a character called gloria mundi who dies in the end < 1468196654 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think that pun has been made. < 1468196664 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in full-length story form? < 1468196687 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't be surprised, but i want to read it myself < 1468196695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but apparently as an album https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sick_Transit_Gloria_Mundi < 1468196753 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally it would be a story where *no one* comments on the fact that gloria mundi is passing away, everyone is just appropriately sad. bonus points if it is *actually* sad < 1468196842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A New York Daily News story about the 1980 state transit bailout was published under the headline "Sick Transit's Glorious Monday."' < 1468196996 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :....now that is a glorious pun < 1468197001 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1468197004 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever happened to the NYDN i wonder < 1468197013 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1468197021 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468197181 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468197356 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468197384 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468197435 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468197466 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468197483 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468197509 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1468198278 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have designed some Magic: the Gathering cards too though < 1468198324 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468198612 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you do the art? < 1468198653 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just the text and name. In some cases there is favortext and in some cases there is suggestions for art, though. < 1468198703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :favortext? < 1468198713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're doing us a big favor, writing that < 1468198750 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have you ever tried to do the art yourself? < 1468198753 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any art? < 1468199135 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468199603 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I have not done < 1468199651 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is OK if other people want to make art, or even other version of favour texts, to write comment on my file. < 1468200090 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468200094 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468201127 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468201216 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468202618 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1468203627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you endorse the views of the other #esoteric < 1468203882 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there are more than one views so you have to depend what views? < 1468203946 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468204287 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468204404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i still have not checked it out hth < 1468204459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i suspect i would only endorse a fragment of them. < 1468204819 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468204932 0 :kuroro_!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1468206065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47345&oldid=47193 5* 0324.242.95.85 5* (+4) 10/* Factorial */ < 1468206065 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468206230 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468206486 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468206495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47346&oldid=47345 5* 0324.242.95.85 5* (-4) 10/* Factorial */ < 1468206843 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468207042 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468207086 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468207163 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1468207720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47347&oldid=47333 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+18) 10/* Sample programs */ < 1468207772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47348&oldid=47347 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+103) 10 < 1468207869 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468207953 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468208202 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468208355 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know what such views would be, say so in order to answer such questions more satisfactorily. < 1468208386 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468208408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you invented a better query language than SQL? < 1468208585 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats wrong with set-builder notation as a query language? < 1468208621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's limited. < 1468209001 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No I have not done, but I think SQL is working OK. But I have invented extensions to SQL which have not been implemented as far as I know, such as extensions to access RDF data, as well as some other things. < 1468209157 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some features I wanted for SQL have to do with SQLite APIs and not with the SQL code itself; some of these have been implemented but not all. For example, I have more suggestions for features for virtual tables, such as the ability of the module to deal with LIMIT and OFFSET clauses, and the ability of the module to do batch updates and batch deletions. < 1468209174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: If an inner join is a pullback, what are all the other kinds of joins? < 1468209331 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468209674 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468209771 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is now the ability for a SQLite virtual table module xBestIndex method to know which columns are used by a colUsed field, although this field includes even consumable uses, and I would rather that it omitted consumable uses; it would make more sense to me. If this were changed, then sqlite3_vtab_config() should be used to configure this, for purpose of backward compatibility. < 1468210033 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another enhancement would be to allow additional sqlite3_declare_vtab() calls, where the additional ones are CREATE INDEX instead of CREATE TABLE statements. A partial index and index on expression are allowed (and in the case of virtual tables, a CREATE INDEX statement that doesn't use either of these features is probably useless, unless it contains COLLATE clauses too, so that you can create a virtual table that supports multiple collations.) < 1468210514 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1468212638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47349&oldid=47348 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+661) 10 < 1468212848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome incomprehensibly < 1468212891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13incomprehensibly: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1468213110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a feeling i've seen em before. < 1468213135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe in _The Wizard of Oz_? < 1468213159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1468213234 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "incomprehensibly" is Micah Johnston. < 1468213262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is entirely irrelevant to the swatting hth < 1468213412 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :was em a witch? < 1468213436 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: itym "was ey a witch" hth < 1468213442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no < 1468213446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: itym "was e a witch" hth < 1468213452 0 :kuroro_!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468213453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many variants < 1468213466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: think more familiar hth < 1468213513 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope no idea < 1468213534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, caun't help you any more. < 1468213548 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1468213647 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1468213706 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468213816 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1468214099 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is who the witch? < 1468214165 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some Wiccans will call themself witches while others will not (I have heard from someone was with two other people one person introduced another as a witch but then she said she is not a witch she is Wiccan) < 1468214206 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the number 11 on a rotary telephone in a hotel mean to access the outside line (which is 9 on modern telephones)? < 1468214227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38; Rotary phones are obsolete. < 1468214304 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That fails to answer the question. I mean at a time when the Hotel Pennsylvania had a rotary telephone. < 1468214338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rotary phones have been obsolete my entire life. < 1468214340 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone I asked about this picture suggested that is what 11 is for. < 1468214352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they've been obsolete forever. < 1468214449 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is a picture of the telephone dial on the latest issue of 2600. < 1468214481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that published your letter? < 1468214488 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1468214515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I look at it for free? < 1468214583 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468214592 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you go to a book store that has it then you can look there I suppose. If you find it at the store and want to buy it, you have to pay $6.95 (United States) or $8.95 (Canadian), plus tax. < 1468214618 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may also find a picture of the covers in their webpages; I don't know, but you can try. < 1468214739 0 :kuroro_!~kuroro@69-165-253-74.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468214750 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know where this picture came from, but at least it appears to be from Hotel Pennsylvania; it has their telephone number in the middle. < 1468214830 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Their telephone number was (and still is) PENnsylvania 5000, I think in the 212 area code.) < 1468214875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone number is SHA-CHAF. < 1468214885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The area code isn't 212. < 1468214903 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of anyone who has kept the same telephone number for longer than them? (This is a question that was asked in a letter in a previous issue.) < 1468214989 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "obsolete". In much of the US, pulse dialing still works. < 1468215002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I mean it in the Google sense, of course. < 1468215022 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are certainly obsolete in the Google sense. < 1468215041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish that one comic was public. < 1468215055 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1468215154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pulse dialing ought to still work! A telephone is much simpler to design with pulse dialing (although some functions will not work, such as if you need an extension number, but this is OK); if you have switch, microphone, speaker, bell, it will be enough, I think. Even if it does not actually have a dial, it will work (I have tried it, and yes it does work even without a dial). < 1468215192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pulse dialing is useful because you can do it yourself when necessary. < 1468215216 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1468215260 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I have done it manually without the dial, actually. < 1468215374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But I can't do it from my cell phone. < 1468215398 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why? It is because I wanted to just see if it works; it did work.) < 1468215399 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i use two phones to talk to my broker: a sell phone and a buy phone < 1468215500 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468215590 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the cellular system is entirely different anyways < 1468215622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not entirely. < 1468215631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, it still uses phone numbers. < 1468215823 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but it's not attempting to present the entire user interface over a low bandwidth analog line. < 1468216505 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40a1:9df4:882d:d800 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, those involve NULL in various ways, don't they? < 1468216553 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:40a1:9df4:882d:d800 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably express them in ways involving 1+A and 1+B for the two tables < 1468216619 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you would want something like These. < 1468216663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sum types are too good for SQL, anyway. < 1468216802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when you do an SQL join and some fields are actually NULL? Probably a mess. < 1468217338 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468217625 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468218108 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468219333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47350&oldid=47349 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+476) 10/* Sample programs */ < 1468219425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47351&oldid=47350 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (-9) 10/* Stack control */ < 1468219474 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468219530 0 :Terr!~Terr@173-242-224-54.scottsboro.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1468219578 0 :Terr!?@? NICK :Darkrifts < 1468219981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The document for SQLite says a join with null values is treated the same way as = operator with null values. < 1468220008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like pullbacks? < 1468220035 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1468220086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like pushouts? < 1468220121 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1468220146 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about equalizers? < 1468220155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the great equalizer? < 1468220205 0 :Darkrifts!~Terr@173-242-224-54.scottsboro.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :52*_*_2-@_3-@5+@ {} < 1468220208 0 :Darkrifts!~Terr@173-242-224-54.scottsboro.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468220235 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468220246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1468220291 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468221036 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468221145 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once on CBC Debaters they debate about use of American vs British spelling in Canada, but both are wrong because in Canada you have to use Canadian spelling, which uses some of each. Commands in a computer program should be American, although the documentation and GUI and comments can use any and does not even necessarily have to be English. < 1468221303 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468222008 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi everyone < 1468222017 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using voice recognition to type again < 1468222030 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it worked so well last time < 1468222038 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's going pretty well this time < 1468222041 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9823:caa2:65ca:954b JOIN :#esoteric < 1468222051 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the technology has improved somewhat < 1468222272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468223736 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a program to filter text from stdin using a JavaScript program specified by command-line argument. This program is itself written in JavaScript. < 1468223938 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the vodka is good but the meat is rotten hth < 1468224787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at freefall and thinks that it's sort of 18 years since his last chapter ended, too
< 1468224833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1468224838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't hear you < 1468224846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't think this voice recognition thing is working very well < 1468224855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION removes the banana from shachaf's ear
< 1468224878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mode +b ana < 1468224892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ban ananas < 1468224943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on pine of apple < 1468225018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and randall has a new hobby < 1468225099 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468225154 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468225557 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1468226013 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468226051 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468226055 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468226231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468228235 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468228503 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did eventually manage to solve the pentagon puzzle (on euclid), but my solution is long and ugly < 1468228503 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468228515 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to optimize the move count a bit, while keeping the same principle < 1468228526 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1468230426 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Stalactite < 1468231029 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:7c88:be17:ca02:d1e0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468231482 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468231527 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello everyone < 1468231535 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1468232249 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Onov14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47352&oldid=47343 5* 0389.72.56.11 5* (-35) 10Deleted elements from the code and corrected the list of steps. < 1468232541 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468232893 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, something came up at work that I just realised I know how to do in Haskell, but not OCaml < 1468232896 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's pretty type-eso < 1468232913 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the offchance, anyone here that's able to help? < 1468232917 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I have a program that (simplified) works like this: f (a1 : [`x] list) = let a2 = g a1 in let a3 = (h : [`x] list -> [`y] list) a2 in let (a4 : [`y] list) = g a3 in a4 < 1468232925 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but now I need to change g so that its argument is a [< `x | `y] list; can I do that whilst asserting that its return value and argument have the same type? < 1468232935 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (the actual example is more complex but follows this general pattern) < 1468233098 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468233154 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468233313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that thing in Haskell? < 1468233332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know so little OCaml that I'm not sure what you're doing, so I probably wouldn't be able to help. < 1468233382 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: g :: (SomeTypeClass a => a -> a) < 1468233405 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9823:caa2:65ca:954b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468233428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow the rest of the example. I guess I should look up OCaml syntax. < 1468233430 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the typeclass in question describes the existence of a function whose argument is a and whose return value is a list of an ADT whose constructors are X and Y < 1468233438 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, (SomeTypeClass a => [a] -> [a]) < 1468233443 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot the list bit :-P < 1468233530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's [`x], or [< `x | `y]? < 1468233568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[`x] is a variant type whose constructors are exactly `x (actually it has to be captialized, so `X) < 1468233612 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[< `X | `Y] is a variant type whose constructors are some subset of `X and `Y (so there are four possible types there, False, [`X], [`Y], and [`X|`Y]) < 1468233680 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, [> `X | `Y] is a variant type whose constructors are some /superset/ of `X and `Y < 1468233754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where `X and `Y are nullary constructors? < 1468233770 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468233802 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can give them arguments too, e.g. [`X of int], but I didn't because I was trying to come up with the simplest example that illustrated the problem < 1468233826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So [< `X | `Y] behaves like Bool for most purposes, for consumers? < 1468233885 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right < 1468233946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between [`X | `Y] and [< `X | `Y]? < 1468234018 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mathematically there isn't one < 1468234037 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCaml refuses to treat the types as the same, though, probably because the equivalence doesn't hold once you start giving arguments to the constructors < 1468234114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between [< `X of int | `Y of bool] and [`X of int | `Y of bool]? < 1468234213 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468234227 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468234293 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468234403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm missing something about variants but I'll find out what it is another time. < 1468234416 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite see how that example would be translated to Haskell, though. < 1468234466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I ought to have gone to sleep several hours ago. < 1468234485 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :night then < 1468234485 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ocaml seem to have found an answer anyway < 1468234503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the answer? < 1468234575 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468234589 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468234635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess I see what I was missing about variants. < 1468234815 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1468234917 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: [< ] and [> ] denotes variance; a value with [< `X | `Y] would be able to be contracted to either [< `X] or [< `Y] when the subsequent check requires that, likewise [> `X | `Y] will allow the extension to, say, [> `X | `Y | `Z] < 1468234973 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: you've got that backwards < 1468234992 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[< `X | `Y] can be expanded to [< `X | `Y | `Z] < 1468235000 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used OCaml for ages, so I might be wrong :p < 1468235006 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[> `X | `Y] can be contracted to [> `X] < 1468235009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the type of `X is [> `X], for instance. < 1468235022 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468235040 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the type of function `X -> 0 is [< `X] -> int < 1468235043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But [`X | `Y] and [< `X | `Y] have the same number of inhabitants. < 1468235051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you consume them essentially the same way. < 1468235066 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah I think I confused because function args should have the *inverted* variance to be checked < 1468235069 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1468235088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, OCaml is notorious for not automatically casting between types even when they're mathematically equivalent < 1468235103 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my codebase has at least one example where I've written the identity function by writing out cases < 1468235117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to "launder" a variance < 1468235130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: isn't that because they have a type system where there's no algorithm for determining if the types are equivalent? < 1468235131 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because OCaml couldn't handle either just using the value directly, or a cast < 1468235137 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in turn OCaml has a relatively straightforward type checker, I think < 1468235142 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right, I strongly suspect that this is to do with keeping the type system decidable < 1468235219 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, congratulations on getting on the NetHack dev team! < 1468235225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtyping is complicated. < 1468235239 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: thanks < 1468235264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Have you congratulated the NetHack devteam for getting ais523? < 1468235299 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ← < 1468235337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2190 LEFTWARDS ARROW] < 1468235346 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode DIAGONAL ARROW < 1468235373 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English lacks good words for describing diagonals < 1468235394 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You want e.g. "NORTH WEST ARROW" < 1468235403 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people sometimes use compass directions or times on a 12 hour clock instead < 1468235405 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1468235423 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SOUTH EAST ARROW < 1468235429 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw my connection is very laggy atm < 1468235432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468235437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​↘ < 1468235441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks HackEgo < 1468235461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use times on a 24-hour clock. < 1468235476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get more precision at a cost of confusing everyone you're talking to. < 1468235481 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468235507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use angles, but only if you've agreed a coordinate system in advance < 1468235513 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah. here in Hungary we have the roads numbered so that 1..8 go roughly to the eight compass directions in order, and all roads have a number whose first digit is the octant, but nobody uses this to describe directions. < 1468235517 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :315° DEGREE ARROW < 1468235544 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(funnily, there are also road numbers whose first digit is 9 and a road with number 0) < 1468235544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can communicate a permutation through an ordering, but only if you've agreen on an ordering in advance. < 1468235549 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the UK has a very similar system, with 9 numbered regions for describing zones < 1468235573 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :six of them radiate from London, three from Edinburgh < 1468235598 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the boundaries are the A1, the A3, the A4, the A5, the A6, the A7, the A8, the A9, and the River Thames between 1 and 2 < 1468235615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's common to all those things, anyway? < 1468235621 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the A1 goes to both London and Edinburgh, in order to reduce the number of boundary roads needed by 1) < 1468235635 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"those things" = ? < 1468235636 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if road numbers, postal codes, and telephone codes would be numbered in some roughly corresponding way, but no such luck, they're three different systems. < 1468235636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permutation and total (well?) ordering, linear map/matrix and basis, etc. < 1468235645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly incoherent right now. < 1468235650 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is the number 0 a circular road that goes through all eight zones, by any chance? < 1468235673 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know but have a feeling that the answer has something to do with category theory < 1468235680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a finite set of size n, there are n! permutations and n! total orders you can put on that set. < 1468235686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's no natural isomorphism between those two. < 1468235703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, "naturality" is the first step in an answer. < 1468235729 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I bet they're more connected than that. < 1468235738 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's the plan, although it's not a full cycle (possibly not yet a full cycle), and it's actually called M0, and some numbers are used twice, once with M and once without, and M means a motorway/freeway and exactly that. < 1468235742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, maybe it's actually a well-ordering you need, not a total ordering. < 1468235754 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1468235763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"every set can be well-ordered" and "every vector space has a basis" are both equivalent to the axiom of choice. Maybe there's something there? < 1468235782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, the M prefix isn't quite an exact system, just rough < 1468235833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, in finite cases you don't need the axiom of choice. < 1468235903 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the UK road numbering system has a letter prefixed to the road number that indicates the class of road, and numbers are unique only within a class (actually there are a few accidental duplicate numbers but there aren't meant to be) < 1468235919 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I see < 1468235940 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468235947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468235960 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : b_jonas: the UK road numbering system has a letter prefixed to the road number that indicates the class of road, and numbers are unique only within a class (actually there are a few accidental duplicate numbers but there aren't meant to be) < 1468235979 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although in the case of motorways, sometimes we suffix the M instead when talking about a motorway upgrade of or bypass to an A-road < 1468236000 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the A1 and M1 are different roads; the A1(M) is a different road from the M1, and follows the path of the A1 < 1468236009 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the A1(M) and M1 are both motorways (the A1 isn't) < 1468236030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do other statements that are equivalent to the axiom of choice have to do with naturality? < 1468236268 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468236319 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468236358 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1468236516 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1468236550 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468236738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468236782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468236939 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468237861 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust198.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468237906 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1468238207 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1468238212 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1468238212 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 13h 56m 12s ago: I've forgotten. What are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1468238234 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. Montréal, 165 lbs. < 1468238264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codoctor//P⚭Q ∧ P ∈ 𝔻𝕣 → Q ∈ 𝔻𝕣* < 1468238320 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :....what. < 1468238331 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/codoctor < 1468238359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2] < 1468238392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hg < 1468238395 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cafreine < 1468238399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury. < 1468238404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cafreine is the favorite drug of category theorists. < 1468238525 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? abyss < 1468238528 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same. < 1468238570 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1468238572 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. < 1468238862 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Its place of articulation is disputed (see below).” < 1468239215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember where that idea of blowing up the Sun came from. < 1468239238 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: thanks for the reminder! < 1468239259 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468239359 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/{l,}koen* < 1468239373 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/lkoen*: No such file or directory \ wisdom/koen \ wisdom/koen_ < 1468239392 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom koen < 1468239393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom koen? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468239396 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1468239398 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? koen < 1468239401 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? koen_ < 1468239401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives). < 1468239407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives). < 1468239411 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better french would be "en haut" < 1468239432 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t'as rien vu, personne n'a aucune preuve, la la la la la ♪ < 1468239471 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/koen* < 1468239480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1468239493 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L est s'est envolé. < 1468239498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L est s'est envolé. < 1468239502 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé. < 1468239502 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :et s'est envolé < 1468239505 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé. < 1468239517 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't type
< 1468239537 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I actually had a view on the eiffel tower when this first wisdom entry was made < 1468239540 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not a sequence of letters < 1468239540 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1468239579 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what does "tout" mean... < 1468239586 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "all". < 1468239595 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé. < 1468239601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé. < 1468239602 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sucks at typing
< 1468239611 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it wasn't intentional... okay < 1468239704 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any other dumb typos lingering in that? < 1468239840 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would've said "mais il s'est préfixé d'un L" rather than "des L" < 1468239963 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the pun works better with "des L", as they usually come in pairs. < 1468239976 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé d'un L et s'est envolé. < 1468239985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé d'un L et s'est envolé. < 1468239985 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1468239997 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" < 1468239997 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : third-person singular imperfect indicative of vivre < 1468240021 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :still stuck on that... AND WHY DOES FIREFOX ADD A NEWLINE IN FRONT WHEN I SELECT A WHOLE LINE!?!! grrr. < 1468240031 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "used to live" < 1468240121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm ever going to learn that language. < 1468240185 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :je vis, tu vis, il cloue... conjugation is easy! < 1468240237 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a pun? < 1468240246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're doing french puns now? < 1468240283 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1468240287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a. < 1468240293 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468240314 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1468240322 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :settimeofday({1476087005, 0}, NULL) = 0 in strace i see this < 1468240329 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't set the date < 1468240338 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ntp is involved, maybe not < 1468240340 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i fix it? < 1468240354 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: :D < 1468240361 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STAIRS CHICKEN < 1468240363 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/.$/ and other shady characters./' wisdom/oren; cat wisdom/oren < 1468240369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters. < 1468240410 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sled < 1468240412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1468240593 0 :spiette!~spiette@198-200-116-42.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468241823 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468242006 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468242022 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: How's that force going you were bruting? < 1468242054 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that can't work, and I've started to wonder that maybe there's no strategy that beats random < 1468242063 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure really, I'll still try to think more of it < 1468242095 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :strategy, hmm < 1468242095 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reminds me a bit to a favourite maths problem, but definitely not the same < 1468242096 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468242098 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Chameleon one < 1468242115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I told you that one ever < 1468242149 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard about chameleons from you. < 1468242198 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me tell that one, it's an interesting problem with no elementary solution. < 1468242264 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The story is this. A toy company releases a new line of toys: toy chameleons that can change their color. As sold in the unopened boxes, every chameleon has a unique color, different from every other chameleon. < 1468242264 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty certain that there's no strategy that beats random. < 1468242272 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what my empirical data and intuition tells me so far. < 1468242375 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can touch two chameleons of different color, and that makes one of the two become the color of the other, while the other doesn't change, so they are the same color afterwards. However, there's no way to tell which of the two chameleons will change color, and regardless of what happened before and what chameleons you touch, there's exactly 1/2 probability for one or the other. < 1468242419 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1468242425 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that truncated? < 1468242431 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the left chameleon is blue, the right is red < 1468242434 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468242438 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1468242451 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can touch the left blue one < 1468242461 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either the left blue one changes to red or the right red one changes to blue < 1468242468 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way I know which one has changed color. < 1468242469 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you touch the two chameleons to each other, then with 1/2 probability, both chameleons will be blue after, and with 1/2 probability, both will be red afterwards. < 1468242476 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468242480 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: sure, but you can't tell in advance which will change < 1468242488 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah. < 1468242489 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell after < 1468242491 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I can't that < 1468242509 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1468242518 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say you are not allowed to learn what number the opponent picked < 1468242529 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only know whether your number was larger, smaller or equal < 1468242539 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, can't I finish the chameleon thing first? < 1468242543 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ca < 1468242545 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*go ahead < 1468242566 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1468242571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You play this game: you start with N chameleons (N is a natural number), each a different color, and in each step, you touch two chameleons of different color (you never touch two chameleons that are of the same color). < 1468242580 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game ends when all N chameleons are the same color. < 1468242586 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are four questions: < 1468242614 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A) Prove that the number of steps of the game (from start to end) has a finite expected value. < 1468242629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, start that one over. < 1468242639 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A) Prove that no matter what strategy you follow, the number of steps of the game (from start to end) has a finite expected value. < 1468242659 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(B) Prove that the expected value of the number of steps is the same regardless of what strategy you follow. < 1468242668 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C) What is this expected value exactly? < 1468242712 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(D) Prove however, that the strategy you follow can change the distribution of the number of steps of the game (at least if N isn't too small). < 1468242750 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of these, (A) and (D) have elementary solutions, but (B&C) doesn't (I believe). < 1468242921 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: go on, you can tell abou tthe numbers thing if you want < 1468243037 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what happens when you touch teh chameleons... < 1468243054 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: see above. < 1468243067 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can touch two chameleons of different color, and that makes one of the two become the color of the other, while the other doesn't change, so they are the same color afterwards. < 1468243084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there's no way to tell which of the two chameleons will change color, and regardless of what happened before and what chameleons you touch, there's exactly 1/2 probability for one or the other. < 1468243159 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1468243173 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, small window...) < 1468243508 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :M:tG rules. The ability of Eradicate looks at the name of the creature as it was on the battlefield, but in contrast the ability of Deicide looks at the name of the card in exile, right? < 1468243539 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in each step you touch two chameleons together? < 1468243544 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry afk for a moment < 1468243576 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1468243594 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because chameleons that have changed color might change back < 1468243636 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't just line them all up. < 1468243668 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have 4 chameleons, I can get two pairs of same colored ones. < 1468243676 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, in each step you touch two chameleons that are (before that step) different color to each other. < 1468243685 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I touch chameleons again and again? < 1468243688 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until they take the color I want? < 1468243700 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait I can't do that. < 1468243701 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but not just the same two chameleons right after the other of course < 1468243713 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I loose colors :( < 1468243716 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can later touch the same two pairs of chameleons if they changed since < 1468243731 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the same two would be pointless < 1468243734 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the'll have the same color < 1468243778 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1468243791 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 4 chams with colors ABCD (upper case letters are colors) < 1468243806 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pair AB and CD so I get AACC (or BBCC or whatever, doesn't really matter) < 1468243827 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I pair the ones in the middle which gives me AAAC or ACCC < 1468243843 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's assume I get AAAC < 1468243847 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will pair the two right most < 1468243864 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which leaves me with AAAA or AACC at which point I'm at the same point as a few steps above < 1468243871 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just repeat the process until I get AAAA < 1468243915 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's at least possible < 1468244003 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically like tossing coins an that point < 1468244018 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a 50:50 chance you either go back to AACC or get AAAA < 1468244049 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not finite < 1468244106 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably disproving A < 1468244161 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that sounds right about what happens with this strategy, but why do you think the expected value of steps is not finite? I think it is finite in this case. < 1468244181 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you repeat a 50:50 chance event over and over again < 1468244214 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no finite number of steps that guarantees you that you win at least once when tossing coins? < 1468244296 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 10 steps you have a 1/1024 chance of not yet having all chameleons the same color < 1468244376 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, you can get unlucky and then the game will go on forever, at least when there's more than 2 chameleons initially. < 1468244404 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468244499 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, but luckily I didn't ask for a finite number of steps that guarantees that the game ends. < 1468244548 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I think you don't win when the game ends, you lose, since the toys you payed good money for no longer provide you entertainment value.) < 1468244575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but that's irrelevant for the maths problem) < 1468244593 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news for the manufacturer < 1468244598 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yep < 1468244637 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1468244651 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so once you end up at the same colors again the game is finished? < 1468244675 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1468244686 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the first step you get rid of half the colors. < 1468244701 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the game ends when all chameleons are the same color. < 1468244719 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it might never end < 1468244729 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the chameleons still have some value, because you can play with them again if you buy more chameleons, but again you don't do that in the maths problem) < 1468244812 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for toy manufacturers, this Pokemon Go game that everyone is talking about, is this compatible with other pokemon video games in the sense that you can transfer pokemon to or from Pokemon Go? < 1468244856 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1468244859 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't < 1468244877 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1468244938 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really just pokemon-branded glorified geocaching, similarly to how Ingress sorta was too (but in a different way and without the pokemon theme) < 1468244950 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems a bit uncharacteristic for a Pokemon video game, but maybe that will change later. < 1468244967 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: won't it still have pokemon battles or something? < 1468244994 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea, maybe? < 1468245006 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ingress was from the same developers, right? < 1468245009 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1468245212 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there are battles (fights) < 1468245425 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468245690 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468245924 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the battle implementation is like a proper kind of pokemon game though, it is too simplified and differences as far as I have been told < 1468247546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468247553 0 :spiette_!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1468247572 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the battles are boing < 1468247577 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no pvp < 1468247577 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1468247583 0 :spiette_!?@? NICK :spiette < 1468247607 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you basically tap your opponent to death < 1468248289 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468248389 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468248479 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can dodge < 1468248491 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you basically tap your opponent to death" => sometimes older pokemon games look like that too < 1468248519 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wonder if they're going to roll some of the features, and possibly even a story, later < 1468248526 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's a young game, and can be updated later < 1468248578 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Apparently that game doesn't have trading yet. < 1468248865 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "you basically tap your opponent to death" => sometimes older pokemon games look like that too ← https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgcZP-uv60A#t=2h0m35s e.g. < 1468248879 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(top-left screen) < 1468248928 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, like that < 1468249074 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468249329 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468249497 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is worse < 1468250597 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.41 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1468251171 0 :feliks!yXv08a4YEe@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468251254 0 :feliks!btHl5lnBlG@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1468251786 0 :feliks!btHl5lnBlG@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468252545 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1468252610 0 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468252691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468254797 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468254809 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468255099 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it turns out that the random strategy is optimal for mroman's number game... if you think of the players as interacting to create a permutation pi mapping the first player's numbers to the second player's numbers, note that you still get a random permutation if the first player gets to specify which value of the permutation to fix next... and the scoring only depends on the resulting... < 1468255105 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...permutation (pi(i) is compared to i, for all possible i). < 1468255219 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it was hard to find the right angle on this... I actually wrote a program that does the brute force computation trying to beat the random strategy... because I couldn't find the right angle) < 1468255423 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468255494 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468255671 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468255674 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hmm... that is probably the right explanation, yes < 1468255687 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thanks < 1468255831 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468256684 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:7c88:be17:ca02:d1e0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1468256684 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! So Urza's Destiny has a tight cycle of uncommons reprinted in Betrayers of Kamigawa that exile an object and then exile all cards with the same name from its controller's graveyard, hand and library. It consists of: Scour, Quash, Eradicate, Sowing Salt, Spliter. < 1468256705 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wonder I didn't know about this. < 1468256715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's good to know. < 1468256908 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1468257091 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468257550 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so that means a deck with those in it is best fought by not having four of each card you want < 1468257667 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm although i dunno how I would decide which card is powerful enough that I want to get rid of it that badly < 1468257785 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose this is a good way to kill a combo deck < 1468257835 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some cards they have equivalent or nearly equivalent one with different name, so you can have the ones with different names instead of all same name. < 1468258139 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm not sure. for most decks, the effect of searching is usually minimal. < 1468258349 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, because of meld cards, I was trying to search for cards that exile a permanent, follow it to exile, and then do something with the exiled card. Many cards just put the exiled card to the battlefield later. < 1468258440 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a183:67ad:3da1:ddbc JOIN :#esoteric < 1468258588 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:b1bd:2a75:66b6:e652 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468258618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interesting cases I found are these: Otherworldly Journey returns cards with a +1/+1 counter (straightforward, and called out explicitly in the set faq). Gift of Immortality returns the exiled card and _later_ tries to return itself (from the graveyard? I dunno) tbf attached to that creature. < 1468258690 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deicide (and probably no other card) follows a card to exile and looks for its subtype and name there, I dunno how that works for a melded permanent. Oubliette and a few other old cards exile a permanent together with its auras and then later return it tbf together with its auras. < 1468258694 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a183:67ad:3da1:ddbc QUIT :Client Quit < 1468258703 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:a183:67ad:3da1:ddbc JOIN :#esoteric < 1468258827 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, Gift of Immortality follows itself to the graveyard, in exactly the cases outlined in rule 400.7e.) < 1468259629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH! Wow < 1468259710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eldritch Moon has an aura called "Imprisoned in the Moon" that can overwrite a permanent's type to _land_, without overwriting its name. This makes some of the rules shenanigans easier to give examples to, and maybe even lets new types of rules stuff happen. < 1468259743 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can use with a candelabra? < 1468259834 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what candelabra? < 1468259845 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Candelabrum of Invocation? < 1468259938 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468259980 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! The other kind! The kind with candles! < 1468260093 0 :viktorepo!~victo@189.146.145.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468260109 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's another interesting card about meld: Extraplanar Lens. < 1468260125 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also Invader Parasite.) < 1468260183 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468260395 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468260523 0 :viktorepo!~victo@189.146.145.211 QUIT :Quit: Saliendo < 1468261195 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1468261465 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :izabored < 1468261473 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo, the line translation tool doesn't work as usual on level 25 (possibly due to the undefined point bug?) < 1468261868 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1468261888 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468262637 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the reason is different... the tool is actually implemented in the corresponding .ggb data < 1468263048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, at least it probably never worked differently. < 1468263796 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468264555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, that's one more gold medal :) < 1468264618 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a slightly surprising isosceles triangle < 1468265697 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468265707 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash -c "SET y='() { :;}; echo vulnerable,y '; y; env x='() { :;}; echo vuln x'; x;"; echo y; y < 1468265748 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? is hackego here? < 1468265774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: SET: command not found \ bash: y: command not found \ bash: x: command not found \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: y: command not found \ TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ SHLVL=2 \ HOME=/tmp \ _=/usr/bin/env \ x=() { :; < 1468265775 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is slow. < 1468265788 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looky there < 1468265826 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone discovered that playing around with hbot < 1468265902 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gizmodo.com/sore-legs-become-pandemic-as-pokemon-go-players-acciden-1783402931 lol < 1468265907 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellshock_(software_bug) < 1468265917 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: it's not a new thing < 1468265921 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hbot runs the LATEST version of debian tho < 1468265938 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellshock should certainly be fixed by now < 1468265973 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash --version < 1468265977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU bash, version 4.2.37(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) \ Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later \ \ This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it. \ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. < 1468266053 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where in that code does it fetch all the environment variables and print them then int-e? < 1468266113 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seshell shock is code injection < 1468266121 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shellshock is code injection < 1468266128 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 'get all the mem variables!' < 1468266134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` env foo=bar < 1468266136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ HOME=/tmp \ SHLVL=1 \ _=/usr/bin/env \ foo=bar < 1468266160 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the env command < 1468266161 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1468266162 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm wrong, it's a failed attempt to test for shellshock < 1468266280 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` env x='() { :; }; echo HI!' bash -c "echo THERE!" < 1468266282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI! \ THERE! < 1468266288 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how it works. < 1468266303 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468266395 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` env x='() { echo "OOPS!"; }; echo HI!' bash -c 'echo "THERE!"; x' < 1468266396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI! \ THERE! \ OOPS! < 1468267161 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468267185 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468267244 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468267344 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468267450 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468268837 0 :izabored!?@? NICK :izabera < 1468268868 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468269787 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1468269802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468271774 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1468272225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468272476 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468273571 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468273738 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1468273756 0 :Boyss!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1468273932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47353&oldid=47303 5* 03Malbranche 5* (+715) 10/* Sample programs */ cat program < 1468274052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Was I rude just then in the other channel? < 1468274057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't intend to be rude. < 1468274069 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as rude as you've been in the past in some channels < 1468274096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1468274111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I misunderstood the question. < 1468274133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How ought I not've been rude? < 1468274145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what past rudeness are you thinking of? < 1468274170 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this instance, googling from outside the channel and saying something like "I think so... hang on / Yes, https://github.com/xyncro/aether" < 1468274185 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have a poor memory for specifics of rudeness I am afraid < 1468274194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? I think that's less helpful. < 1468274221 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully not as rude as I sometimes am. < 1468274243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is using @google to answer a question rude? < 1468274257 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems so to me < 1468274263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I paste the link directly, it implies that I have some previous knowledge of that project. < 1468274308 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that depends. Sometimes people ask tricky questions where if you search you get answers for a similar sounding but different question, in which case it might be rude. < 1468274329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I searched first outside the channel to make sure it would find the right link. < 1468274347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then pasting the link seems like the wrong thing to do. < 1468274359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I think lmgtfy.com is quite rude. < 1468274366 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, to me, using @google is like "I am SO SURE that this is SO OBVIOUS the first link on google is going to help you" < 1468274379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that link not helpful? < 1468274394 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was helpful, yes < 1468274407 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you even be sure it will give the same answer in channel? Google can give different results for the same query depending on the interface language, search history, account, phase of moon, etc. < 1468274413 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think by using @google you're coming across as more arrogant than you would by just pasting the link < 1468274427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's a problem. < 1468274438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I actually am that arrogant, in which case maybe it's not a problem. < 1468274442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think I am. < 1468274477 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interface language has such a high effect that I specifically sometimes search from http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en and sometimes from http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=hu depending on what I want. < 1468274554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I suspect phase of moon is the most significant. < 1468274575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"phase of moon" might mean something like "which data center served your query" < 1468274609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I apologise for my rudeness. < 1468274628 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is OK < 1468274631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(