< 1470182405 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough < 1470182406 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470182412 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even rewrite autoexec so it does something different next time you boot, or boot linux < 1470182426 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, you could just boot linux from a user disk with a command after booting < 1470182429 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't really need that < 1470182431 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this way is better < 1470182492 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470182570 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, is it possible to use the DLX image bochs comes with over the serial port? < 1470182948 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd seriously like the compilers too you know :P, could that come as one last package? < 1470182960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's DLX? < 1470182984 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extremely minimal linux, comes with bochs (at least it did for me) < 1470183009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use linux from serial console much better than dos < 1470183033 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik, how would i do that with DLX tho? :P < 1470183058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of dos programs use the console and keyboard directly (even for just speed, when they wouldn't need to strictly speaking), but linux programs don't do that, they work fine in a virtual terminal that you control from serial terminal < 1470183071 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DLX linux is the bochs demo < 1470183147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ask the linux guys. you probably have to make init spawn gettys on the serial terminal, do some config, and optionally also put the console (boot time and later debug messages and stdio for early userland boot script stuff) to the serial terminal, < 1470183156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and optionally put the console for the boot loader to serial terminal. < 1470183258 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470183295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470183411 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I'm unlikely to send you the whole turbo pascal and borland C distributions, or all of dos or its installer, or all of norton utilities or its installer, or all of norton commander or its installer, or the windows or winword or excel installers. I have them, but I probably won't distribute them. < 1470183415 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get them from somewhere else. < 1470183420 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470183431 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can find the turbo pascal and borland C somewhere on the internet < 1470183445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding hungarian version of excel 5 might be more difficult < 1470183572 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470183628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stuff isn't even big. I have all the dos stuff on a one gigabyte large image of which about 25% is free space, and it includes all the above and more, and is quite close to what I had on my first computer back when I had 2 decimal gigabytes of hard disk, \ < 1470183664 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used to be able to find all that stuff on abandonware sites no problem. Well, maybe not the Hungarian Excel. < 1470183669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omitting the linux install on a 850 megabyte partition (to which I had to install and uninstall programs to make them fit because I didn't know what I could safely remove), and omitting the minimal windows 95 install that's on a 50 megabyte sized compressed partition and boots from a floppy. I had no easy way to backup at that point, because hdd or < 1470183669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd burners were expensive. < 1470183701 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically all my useful dos stuff is about 750 megabytes, including installers and games, < 1470183725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's a few hundred megabytes (mostly some games) I've lost permanently from a hard disk failure earlier. < 1470183847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of small old software in there < 1470183872 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://stackoverflow.com/questions/711770/fast-implementation-of-rolling-hash am i reading this correctly? they say to compute hash1 = [0]*base^(n-1) + [1]*base^(n-2) + ... + [n-1] but they always multiply by the same number? < 1470183916 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure because 12 people thought it's correct < 1470183921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep a 'dos' directory that I had on a computer, it's full of random silly little programs from the era where I went "well C:\DOS is in PATH so I'll just stick stuff there". < 1470183942 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's one of the things I cleaned up properly back on dos < 1470183955 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a C:\PATH directory for all the miscellania I run < 1470184033 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never managed. < 1470184064 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes no sense, because I did set PATH. < 1470184082 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm pretty sure this autoexec.bat I'm looking at is not mine. < 1470184117 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, huh. Maybe it is. < 1470184141 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470184146 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the path contains C:\PATH;C:\DOS;C:\NC;C:\NU;C:\WINDOWS;C:\BC\BIN;C:\TP\BIN;C:\NAV < 1470184153 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it varied a bit, but that's basically it < 1470184156 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember some things (like these goto %config% target labels), but some of them seem really off. < 1470184197 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This PATH contains C:\BC45\BIN;C:\IEXPLORE;C:\ANIPAINT;C:\CPQDOS;C:\;C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\MOUSE;C:\SB16;C:\PGP;C:\SE;C:\MCAFEE;C:\PMAIL;c:\cdtsr but I'm... a bit suspicious. < 1470184232 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1470184256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what all that stuff even is.) < 1470184324 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember using 4dos a lot. < 1470184346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember borland turbo-c < 1470184349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was tg < 1470184354 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\PATH contains the joe editor, mouse, the more frequently used compressors (pkzip, pkunzip, arj, rar), setup.bat that invokes c:\windows\setup because otherwise c:\dos\setup (which is useless) would shadow it, and a few other things < 1470184367 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470184459 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: does the amount of Cylinders Heads and Sectors matter for the DOS img? i bet it does < 1470184504 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: it sort of might matter. but you can set it to any sane amount. < 1470184510 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I'm not sure it matters < 1470184515 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it matters only for fdisk basically < 1470184520 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything else uses lba < 1470184536 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdisk just makes sure to write the partition table to cylinder boundary to make it compatible with old stuff < 1470184548 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not really sure < 1470184557 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :set it sanely and then you can't have a problem < 1470184573 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically just set it to 63,255 and as many cylinders as completely fit) < 1470184586 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make sure the bios (emulator) and the partition table agree in them < 1470184597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470184624 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its complaining it cant open the drive image, wtf? < 1470184624 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best way for that is to erase the disk to all zeros (not only the partition table, but where each boot sector goes) and then create them with fdisk and format < 1470184655 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i get for using it on windows *shrug* < 1470184659 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that dos (including the format program) is stupid, and will believe some values in the mbr AND the old boot sector blindly, which is why you should zero the boot sector before formatting a drive < 1470184662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdisk doesn't zero it < 1470184669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is old dos lore) < 1470184716 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so start from a clean all zeros hard disk image, boot from boot floppy, partition hard disk with DOS fdisk, reboot, boot from boot floppy, use DOS format command < 1470184723 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470184723 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's safe to copy data in there < 1470184794 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its unable to find the disk when i have the path everything and all that, its complaining < 1470184795 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1470184808 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget to tell fdisk to make the mbr bootable (set boot partition) < 1470184832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND to make the file system bootable by formatting it with format /s or with the DOS sys command after it's formatted ( < 1470184833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470184848 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not loading the floppy for some odd reason < 1470184892 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NVM there it goes < 1470184921 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470184936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1470184941 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470184968 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and virtualbox uses some custom disk format for hard disk, not raw hard disk image, so either you have to create the hard disk image with virtualbox, or use some arcane incantations to virtual box to turn a raw image to its favourite format < 1470184978 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1470184988 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using bochs, i had it installed, but didnt like it < 1470184995 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i got it working < 1470184997 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470185002 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try raw qemu too < 1470185031 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get what discs are avaliable? < 1470185081 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: um, what do you mean? < 1470185089 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drives < 1470185100 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What drives are avaliable < 1470185255 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, from what? dos? bochs? < 1470185260 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside? inside? < 1470185288 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS < 1470185300 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Srry about being uninformative :P < 1470185366 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the fdisk utility, it's interactive and console-based (there's a non-interactive read-only more), it tells how many hard disks the bios sees and how many partitions dos sees on them < 1470185389 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately the de and ndd programs from norton utilities also tell how many physical disks you have < 1470185492 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then dos sees the partitions as logical disks, denoted by C:, D:, etc, but those letters also include ram drives and cd drives and possibly other, which programs can access logical sector-based through dos, or the file system on them if there's one < 1470185506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :format formats the logical disks < 1470185537 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cds work differently though < 1470185540 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still get a drive letter < 1470185615 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and lba sectors are numbered from 1, there's no sector 0 < 1470185622 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one confuses the hell out of me all the time < 1470185625 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful with it < 1470185628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sector 1 is the boot sector < 1470185640 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sector number 0 is not used for arcane historical reasons < 1470185823 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470185831 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1470185833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno how this works < 1470185836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1470185865 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470185968 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tip: PowerISO is cancer, dont even peek like it did, i opened installer, and it was offering me random software < 1470185982 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deleted\ < 1470186196 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my joe-editor for dos is about 260 kilobytes in size (not copressed) it seems, including the executable and config file (that's all you need to run) but not sources < 1470186227 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: tell use how you fare with this < 1470186244 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470186273 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Virtualbox finally got that emulator bug fixed, it can now run that one version of the linux kernal that it used to cause a race on < 1470186309 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: as in, tell me later if you manage to get it working, or where you're stuck < 1470186314 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470186864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470187357 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470187632 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470188223 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470188692 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470189112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470189346 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470189801 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470189809 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas? < 1470189819 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas? < 1470189847 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph, anyone know how to prevent people from formating C:\ on MS DOS 6.22? < 1470190033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :handcuffs hth < 1470190055 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, this is in bochs if it help < 1470190097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't because i have no clue hth < 1470190152 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470190365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: linguistics < 1470190380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: linguistics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470190494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastfiles < 1470190501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nundrum < 1470191159 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470191411 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1470191413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1470191428 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1470191429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1470191441 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds well-rounded. < 1470191447 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GALLERY CHICKEN < 1470192093 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470192251 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470193331 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470193385 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470193572 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470193762 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470194748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470194761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get the phrase "ugly as sin" < 1470194771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, trig functions are awesome < 1470194825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats hppavilion[1] -----### < 1470194842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cos you deserved it. < 1470195000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a wikipedia article for "List of crazy shit said by Donald J. Trump" break NPOV? < 1470195032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously, not with that name- probably more along the lines of "List of controversial statements made by Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential race" < 1470195034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470195044 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1470195055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Probably not which way? < 1470195068 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not NPOV < 1470195076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, while it is obviously getting /really/ close to NPOV, Trump DOES say a LOT of crazy things that it would be nice to have a neutral lookup of < 1470195101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they'd have to make one for hillary too, then. < 1470195122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump is probably basically that < 1470195126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well of course < 1470195182 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And honestly, saying "Donald Trump is an emotionally-unstable compulsive liar" probably doesn't really break NPOV at this point < 1470195212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Trump said Snowden should be "executed" < 1470195381 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: he probably won't say that now, now that russia is on his side < 1470195590 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"List of changes to the political positions of Donald Trump" < 1470196443 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470196582 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470196710 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470197901 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470198115 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470198173 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470198218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( much adu about nothing ) < 1470198260 0 :Qbitn!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470198347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is a paper I can point someone to that has a formal definition of Leibniz's dy/dx notation? < 1470199071 0 :Qbitn!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470199276 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex... isn't here < 1470199277 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1470199352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470200114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: he's in another channel. < 1470200186 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really need to be formal about it? just divide the height thingy d^2 by the width (dx)^2 to get the slope, then simplify using (dx)^2 = dx^2 < 1470201371 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have a book about the hyperreals somewhere < 1470201379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hyperreals are scow. < 1470201392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in NSA they define dy/dx to mean something like the real part of some expression. < 1470201397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not literally dy divided by dx < 1470201909 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non standard (crypt-)analysis < 1470202094 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the derivative of y is the standard (non infinitesimal) part of dy/dx < 1470202121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. So dy/du du/dx = dy/dx doesn't make sense seen as canceling. < 1470202157 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it does if you use the various properties of the st() function < 1470202339 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, the property st(xy) = st(x)st(y) : x,y finite < 1470203303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much chance of getting a break in girl genius < 1470203356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes zeetha and dimo won't get wasped < 1470203447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or violetta, hm < 1470204883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470204941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just found an xkcd I haven't seen before :D < 1470204945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/679/ < 1470205117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: SPOILERS tdnh < 1470205219 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470206345 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470206409 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470206492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470206970 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470207935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry :( < 1470207951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably forget it by the time I read GG. < 1470207953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever do. < 1470207988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1470208018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure my spoiler wasn't precise enough to matter unless you've been recently following. < 1470208045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to make you feel bad. < 1470208055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be the one who's apologizing. < 1470208061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXACTLY < 1470208098 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470208121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does the notation dy/dx mean? < 1470208126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please advise. < 1470208135 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470208153 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1470208173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if y is a function f(x) then it means lim h -> 0 (f(x+h)-f(x))/h, hth < 1470208183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-a function < 1470208219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y is a function or an expression? < 1470208231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already corrected it < 1470208238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is y an expression? < 1470208241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1470208248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does dy/dx mean D(\x.y)(x)? < 1470208260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much. < 1470208265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was thinking. < 1470208278 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470208280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now people say things like y^2 = x^2; d/dx both sides to get dy/dx = x/y < 1470208287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's dy/dx in that case? < 1470208305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAGIC < 1470208372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, really the same thing. < 1470208424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When y isn't an expression in terms of x? < 1470208429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just assuming y is some expression in x. < 1470208446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to solve for it, or something. < 1470208447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you use D if you can't make a function \x.y? < 1470208479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think of y as a meta-variable? < 1470208487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never meta-variable I didn't like. < 1470208492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure how it helps here. < 1470208509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course then they'll turn it around and solve x in terms of y. < 1470208554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One property of dy/dx is that dx/dy = 1/(dy/dx) < 1470208577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1470208600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you can do is to think of this as both x and y being expressions in a third variable < 1470208660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208684 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? Wheres my jick? My client pinged me < 1470208688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an arbitrary nonzero constant, even. < 1470208697 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1470208698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: when? < 1470208715 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its highlighting (oerjan) and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208718 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf < 1470208743 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* onetime only i bet < 1470208773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208783 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highlighted it again < 1470208784 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf < 1470208793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1470208800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twotime only i bet < 1470208817 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got pinged somewhere else just now, also a apparently random highlight, wtf < 1470208833 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irc had better explain < 1470208844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's your client doing that hth < 1470208881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470208888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :check if it has some highlight settings. < 1470208890 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill check my HL filters < 1470208904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, binary search! < 1470208912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, wh < 1470208925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you gotta be more like a cpu < 1470208935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :start branch predicting hth < 1470208955 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh lol there was a stray 'a' in my j=highlight settings < 1470208958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to predict without data < 1470208972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, binary search is maximally unpredictable anyway. < 1470208978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the whole point. < 1470209004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But predicting nothing is worse than a wrong prediction. < 1470209011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you care about spam, that is. < 1470209014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 allquotes < 1470209018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/496:1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 3) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 4) GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. \ 5) His body should be given to science. He's alive :P Even so. \ 6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 7) TODO: < 1470209036 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh boy < 1470209143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway, what justifies the whole thing where you separate the dy and the dx? < 1470209156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAGIC < 1470209158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = y -> dy = y dx < 1470209184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, is not like i formally know this. < 1470209202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one formally knows this. < 1470209204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the thing. < 1470209208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they all use it and it works somehow. < 1470209225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncidence?! < 1470209300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, can you do these tricks on derivatives with types? < 1470209309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1470209330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. T = T^7, so dT/dT = dT^7/dT, so 7*T^6 = 1 < 1470209436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sidles away < 1470209978 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470210133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(x) = 1 + x*L(x), so dL(x)/dx = L(x) + x*dL(x)/dx < 1470210134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. < 1470210271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? that's just differentiating multiplication. < 1470210827 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470211365 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470211578 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1470211756 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:693a:705c:8bb4:7898 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470211889 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e536:38ec:f41e:10cc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470214295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470214399 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470214665 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hmph, anyone know how to prevent people from formating C:\ on MS DOS 6.22?" => I think you don't understand how DOS works. DOS allows all programs full access to your system. Including booting a linux. Make backups if you have sensitive data. < 1470215389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you didn't ping him < 1470215772 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? there were a lot of 'a's in that line < 1470215782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470215815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i think it was only "a" as a single word, although there's one there. < 1470215984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: you've been unpinged hth < 1470216002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look overly present. < 1470216099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochythedog < 1470216289 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470217010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470217216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ^ < 1470220209 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoop, the wiki recent-changes bridge seems to have gone away again. < 1470221083 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99e1:3455:87ab:f24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470221955 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470222034 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222654 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rycdbeuogvbaahqc QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470222783 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qruqbindfjykzocr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470222815 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gemzmhnsemfzgdir JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222866 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222964 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470223292 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1470224231 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225654 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225665 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470225706 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99e1:3455:87ab:f24 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470225708 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ENTITY CHICKEN < 1470225737 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225756 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470225778 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470227584 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so a unitary matrix is a square-shaped complex matrix whose columns are unit length and pairwise orthogonal, but if it's a real matrix then it's called an orthogonal matrix instead of a unitary matrix, and if it's a Christian religious denomination then they call it unitarian instead. < 1470227599 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this terminology is confusing, especially if you also add the Hungarian translations. < 1470228004 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470228163 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470229888 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470230605 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470230983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49067&oldid=47098 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+41) 10Added a link to my implementation < 1470231057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49068&oldid=49067 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (-77) 10y u lie < 1470231243 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470231452 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470233771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470234048 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470234066 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470234289 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470235108 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470236053 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what would happen if you took a board designed to be used with a main processor, but noted that you couldn't use the main processor and could only use the co-processor? (The main processor would be responsible for initial data upload to the co-processor, though) < 1470236073 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that, for sufficiently annoying-to-use co-processors, be esoteric? :) < 1470236247 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: do you mean a coprocessor like in the Sega Saturn which has two equally powerful processors, or a coprocessor as in an intel 80387 which is totally impossible to use without a 386 because it can't even sequence instructions or compute addresses on its own, or a graphics processor in a modern day computer? < 1470236266 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was thinking the J1 coprocessor in the Gameduino. < 1470236341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or say the processor in a large printer or printer-scanner on which you can even play Doom, or the processor in the router which runs linux or bsd even when your desktop is turned off, or the small processor in the keyboard, or the processor in ... < 1470236355 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days we have powerful processors everywhere < 1470236439 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, hence I was thinking of a specific hardware platform in which the coprocessor has, among other things: < 1470236571 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :code size limitations, and pretty much all available RAM (afaik not usable as code) is used for some hardware feature or another (so you have to make a choice between RAM or video) < 1470236616 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like, you could sacrifice tile RAM, or maybe sacrifice sprite palettes/sprite image data) < 1470236662 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ofc you can still use the other sprite image RAM areas, but it still means you have less sprite images available) < 1470236678 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470237475 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238337 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238491 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: sounds like graphics code < 1470238664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49069&oldid=49068 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+25) 10 < 1470238897 0 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238962 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470238992 0 :sebbu3!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1470241108 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470242543 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SetBang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49070&oldid=47016 5* 0363.116.152.166 5* (+107) 10Third blog post. < 1470242896 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, new setbang post < 1470242947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470242954 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a language is good for job security, I doubt I want to use it < 1470242980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's usually "you go and everything collapses" kind of security < 1470246353 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a language recently where everything is a pointer to a pointer to a pointer? < 1470246391 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could only do pinter arithmentic indirected through sevarl pointers as the only opearion? < 1470246404 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: 3*? < 1470246410 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1470246417 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however it was stylised < 1470246422 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried doing some stuff with that < 1470246428 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was fun < 1470246449 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three star programmer < 1470246481 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: was that the name of the language, or are you calling me one? < 1470246543 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the name < 1470247036 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470247045 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, both would be correct, then :P < 1470248019 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470248041 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone please explain why 'Refrigerator' is in the topic < 1470248101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470248125 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too hot without it < 1470248211 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1470248225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheDwarf_: its the last line of the haiku < 1470248234 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470248277 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :telekinetic interdisciplinary refrigerator < 1470248439 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ...because anything can be interdisciplinary, right? < 1470249566 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470249579 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470249579 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1470249785 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $'\357\273\277' < 1470249798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE] < 1470250191 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: duh < 1470251224 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :refigerator also has five syllables in Japanese < 1470251635 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:654c:59b4:e26:3afd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470251864 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:654c:59b4:e26:3afd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470251865 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470252344 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanyone know how to set up serial over network for bochs? < 1470252566 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d125:4915:bf9f:68b3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470252652 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470252876 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470253114 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-204-150.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470253372 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-204-150.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470254179 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470255746 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470256393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470256412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horseshoe Theory is fun < 1470256422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can combine it with the Political Compass or something... < 1470256642 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470256856 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: don't work in /tmp if it's a tmpfs and there's the slightest chance of a power fail < 1470257577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protip: Follow all protips you see, because they're usually good advice < 1470257616 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProtIP: protects your IP address. < 1470257678 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d125:4915:bf9f:68b3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470258153 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you don't? D: < 1470258171 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :will hackers find where i live and tell isis to kidnap my dog? < 1470258180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New favorite hard-to-parse-but-still valid ("garden path") sentence: Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like? < 1470258190 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends... do you have a dog? < 1470258193 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1470258195 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1470258199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no. < 1470258202 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470258204 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1470258207 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they know it? < 1470258277 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from ypur ip, dude < 1470258302 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to stop using Isabelle for today... I'm starting to find "by auto blast" amusing. < 1470258303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they just check the dog bit < 1470258333 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta get one of those fancy new dynamic ips < 1470258343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch bit? < 1470258738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We shouldn't use Appeals to Tradition in debates because they've always been considered invalid arguments < 1470258832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non sequiturs are a bad form of reasoning because space monkeys are trying to conquer the moon < 1470258969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it < 1470258973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that you're arguing against classes of arguments by using those arguments themselves < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who invoke Ad Hominem are assholes < 1470258974 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! Ad Hominem apparently translates to "against the man" < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefor, hippies can be called "Ad Hominites" < 1470258974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad poochinem < 1470259064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we allow Appeal to Fear to be used, then Trump will be elected < 1470259099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about appeal to rudeness < 1470259241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being rude now < 1470259241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's ok < 1470259242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My preferred argument is Appeal to the Supreme Court < 1470259242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470259315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the argument I like to use the most is (1) take the opponent's basic claim/evidence, assume it's true (letting other people debunk that, as I usually do mass debating) (2) show that, even if their evidence is true, their conclusion is still stupid because, once you calculate statistics, their are several other possibilities < 1470259326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, Trump claimed he saw New Jersey muslims cheering on 9/11 < 1470259362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the math and found that there are a few thousand muslims in New Jersey whose birthday was on 9/11, so even if he did see that, it could very well have been a coincidence < 1470259475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prays that that doesn't have any glaring flaws < 1470259792 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you came up with a pathetic excuse for something that didn't happen in the first place < 1470259831 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :only making your opponent look more credible than you < 1470259938 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470259960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Carl is a jackass." - Wikipedia, and not in the context of a quote < 1470260172 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470260855 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1470260878 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nundrum//A nundrum is the categorical dual of a conundrum: a problem whose solution is useless. < 1470260912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing//Turing is what you are doing when you Tur < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid//A monoid is the easy version of a category. < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexchat//Hexchat is a variant of Smalltalk invented in Hexham. < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clbin//clbin is a "command line pastebin" web application: https://clbin.com < 1470261008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "turing" meant "using the Internet". < 1470261099 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470261219 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470261360 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470261395 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470261418 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got a amazing 46 FPS on a max size embark (dwarf fortress 0.43.05, 64bit) < 1470261542 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470261777 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now flood the map with magma and see that go down to less than one < 1470261862 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470261874 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already halved, vut arill, 46 starting fps is new < 1470262178 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470262239 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-220.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470262338 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf, mhelloon___, hellorin! < 1470262365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily yo < 1470262439 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1470262606 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470262606 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470262633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1470262747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits clbin < 1470262755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dipperswett < 1470263085 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470263147 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470263147 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470263158 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1470263311 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :MoonyTheHuman < 1470263386 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470263412 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470263428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470263719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellwob_jonas! < 1470263816 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470263834 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470264021 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470264030 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the large fast SD card I ordered hasn't arrived, even though the delivery was estimated for up to today, and it comes from the UK < 1470264072 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470264147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1470264149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-03 21:42:19.388000000+00:00 < 1470264161 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK is faraway hth < 1470264187 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, I heard scary stories < 1470264250 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Taneb is a nazgûl? < 1470264655 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi wob_jonas < 1470264695 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... if I digitally edit the airplane boarding pass to remove the LARGE ADS WITH FULL-COLOR PHOTO THAT TAKE UP A THIRD OF THE SHEET to conserve ink, but keep the barcodes and text data, would that be crazy of me? < 1470264986 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470265019 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265091 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3859:70f0:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U4kg2cHyP6k/URLY6BOsypI/AAAAAAAAA6E/HGLOlRU1HBc/s1222/foxnewsprime.jpg < 1470265184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody needs to die < 1470265359 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470265474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. this makes me angry. < 1470265497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Me too. < 1470265506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will find that article and execute the writer. < 1470265516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone needs to die. < 1470265525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I particularly don't think you should talk about killing people. < 1470265526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bullet to the stomach seems appropriate, unless there's something more ironic < 1470265527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't. < 1470265532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, stop it. < 1470265544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there any more ironic, less illegal response? < 1470265553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know or care. < 1470265574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, your jokes in here aren't funny anyway. I just ignore them. < 1470265583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is crossing some line. < 1470265602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1470265618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't so much joking as I was appalled and angry < 1470265621 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/serenity.png ) < 1470265643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything appalling. < 1470265661 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except for the bit where you're talking about murdering people. < 1470265673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A person who was tasked with writing a news article that would be read by many Americans about math said that prime number have "very little importance" < 1470265680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/number/numbers/ < 1470265687 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Quit: tswett < 1470265692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was just one guy being an idiot to himself, it'd be fine < 1470265701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ? < 1470265704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is an article that will be read by lots of people < 1470265713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prime numbers have very little importance. < 1470265734 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas death threats or whatever have a lot more importance. < 1470265749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure prime numbers have a lot of importance to society < 1470265754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, y'know, encryption < 1470265777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Small amount of imortance. You can do encryption without prime numbers. < 1470265792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not the point. Even if that person is wrong, your behavior is unacceptable. < 1470265813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I request that you stop. < 1470265820 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1470265832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1470265891 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read this over. ??? never seen hppavilion[1] use that bad of a joke >_> < 1470265908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheHuman: It's what happens when I'm angry < 1470265927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And keep in mind, I saw that in the middle of a long line of fox news fails and lies < 1470265955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, several disproportionate bar graphs where an increase of 1 would be represented as 8 times as much < 1470265962 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a coping mechanism, though a bit leaky < 1470265991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, I see now. < 1470266015 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just don't do news < 1470266044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I have family that watches Fox News exclusively, so this is personal for me < 1470266066 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :american problems < 1470266080 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. serenity? < 1470266087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So on a different note < 1470266092 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. Gimmie the latest D-Wave computer and a good prime number calculator. done. moar < 1470266096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a better form of math education in the US < 1470266109 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1470266124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What classes should be mandatory (at what grades can they be taken, what grades must they be taken by), what do they cover, what options should be mandatorily available? < 1470266127 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wquehbmldwgvaurz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470266148 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres one: Vector\ < 1470266155 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf please stop being such a grumpy codger < 1470266177 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old are you hppavilion[1] anyway < 1470266207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no u < 1470266244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as long as I avoid reading between the lines < 1470266285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Perhaps I should use an IRC client that supports temporarily showing ignored text. < 1470266289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...object to answer? < 1470266306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think schools should teach logic of some sort < 1470266325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, a half-semester class where they go over logical fallacies and say why they're wrong and you shouldn't use them) < 1470266334 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that less people get reasonable grades? < 1470266337 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how logical fallacies work < 1470266338 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470266346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think it is? < 1470266422 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i have to tell you a truth < 1470266429 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are stupid < 1470266432 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deal with it < 1470266432 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :'logical fallacies' with the latin name and shit are kind of useless < 1470266441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: On average, people are average intelligence. < 1470266458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Not really; and it would cover informal ones too < 1470266464 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that doesn't make most of the people less stupid < 1470266487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cognitive biases are the empirically-measurable equivalent and they don't work like a little book of Reasons People Are Wrong Online < 1470266492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: True Scotsmen get to skip the class) < 1470266544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470266628 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jhxbhcxcfmxkxqvo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470266661 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just opened my first pickled peppers. they taste good ^^ < 1470266764 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go full UEF and try to coach people out of the fundamental attribution error but i imagine it'd be p tricky in real life < 1470266848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :baroi lyereko < 1470266878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good afternoon, oerjan. < 1470266889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good evening, shachaf. < 1470266965 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( baroi lyereko??? I have no fungotting clue... ) < 1470266966 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oct. 19, 2000 < 1470266970 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that his procedure for reading the logs has become ridiculously convoluted. < 1470266976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How d'you do? < 1470266979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1470266980 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoerjani < 1470266991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evenint-e < 1470267011 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubusuku oerjabuhle < 1470267014 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not quite the same https://xkcd.com/609/ < 1470267019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's transliterated, anyway. < 1470267034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ukrainian? < 1470267063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is there a rickrolling wiki ) < 1470267068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1470267106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume ukrainian would use something dobry-like, like any good slavic language? < 1470267153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has to cheat, anyway. < 1470267165 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, dobroho večora. < 1470267165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i can guess it's a bantu language? < 1470267182 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xhosa. < 1470267188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1470267192 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours is some sami variant? < 1470267194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1470267204 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1470267205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: jolly good show, old chap < 1470267211 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (never) I (gonna) sincerely (give) hope (you) that (up) there (never) is (gonna) no (let) such (you) thing! (down!) < 1470267248 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION subliminally mapoles int-e < 1470267263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't used sami because the phrases i found did not seem to attach well to boily. < 1470267275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afair. < 1470267315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hint? < 1470267322 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470267344 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet, still searching. < 1470267389 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :found! < 1470267393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eastern armenian. < 1470267437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: to read the logs, i'm (1) making sure tunes is shown in utf-8 (it isn't always. in some cases i cannot even show it but have to save.) (2) copy into vim (3) break lines (4) load file in browser. < 1470267496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds complicated. < 1470267499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should automate it. < 1470267518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the line breaking is convoluted too. i should make a macro. < 1470267552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it convoluted? < 1470267573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yep < 1470267591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1470267593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L½ŒÛµìüª¦¼Ð’ÝæÕ}9´Ï]Jm玅¾í[¸Ï¯0³óUÔ.Fi¸ < 1470267602 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :short, that time < 1470267615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a normal mode command that only inserts one break (and indent) per affected line, so i repeat until it stops. < 1470267689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::%s/\(.\{75\}\) /\1^M / < 1470267757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you make a small web page that fetches the latest log, applies transformation, and serves it to your browser? < 1470267767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1470267791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you could just go to that URL directly. It'd be so easy. < 1470267838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot the step where i sometimes join two days hth < 1470267865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that too. < 1470267879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With only a small amount of work you can ask for the logs for any time interval. < 1470267890 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470267915 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1470268078 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1470268100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so ghc is going to get a "bespoke" keyword. < 1470268106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in deriving clauses) < 1470268121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky < 1470268144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a word i'm intuitively familiar with, although the dictionary meaning _does_ fit. < 1470268190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it means to apply the specialized deriving method for a builtin class.) < 1470268222 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470268229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it may not be used that much, being the default whenever applicable. < 1470268251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope.) < 1470268392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470268521 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric