< 1472256092 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472256099 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472256204 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbsekkoktsimhjmc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472256328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: Read every book in http://www.ala.org/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/classics < 1472256480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of those books are good. < 1472256503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that Fahrenheit 451 is on http://www.ala.org/bbooks/top-100-bannedchallenged-books-2000-2009 (or really on any banned/challenged book list at all) is just an embarrassment to the human race < 1472256543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think 50 Shades of Grey should be part of the curriculum in English classes < 1472256553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, as an example of bad writing < 1472256555 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an example of how not to write? < 1472256558 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :^5 < 1472256588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad writing? < 1472256600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read it. < 1472256607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1472256627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 50 shades of grey is the most terribly-written book known to man < 1472256635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's literally bad twilight fanfiction with the names changed < 1472256636 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, it's modified Twilight fan fiction, and the writing quality is... about what you'd expect of that. < 1472256649 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say it's the most terribly-written book known to man, because it's not. < 1472256653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found the website for my school library < 1472256661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm pretty sure it is < 1472256672 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should read more, then. < 1472256677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Far better books than it aren't even published because they're so terrible < 1472256698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a wikispace, and it is an attrocious website < 1472256741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a bunch of picture-links to resources with absolutely no organization < 1472256747 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't really mean much though. Particularly as the reason it got formally published has nothing to do with its assessed quality. < 1472256752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good book I haven't read? < 1472256756 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was initially *self* published. < 1472256762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What books have you read? < 1472256766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few. < 1472256770 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A book publisher picked it up because it was fairly successful after that. < 1472256794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The Cthulhu Mythos is pretty good, but it's more a bunch of short stories than one big book < 1472256821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd put a link to the library website here, but that would give people which high school I go to < 1472256824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though to be fair < 1472256829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people can guess. < 1472256831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you already have my address? < 1472256845 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read 50 shades < 1472256850 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But quite honestly, it can't possibly be considered worse than Atlanta Nights (by Travis Tea). < 1472256856 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it worse than My Immortal? < 1472256885 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked out the website of my former high school, and it's now an IIS7 "Welcome" page. < 1472256897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a rule that everyone I know can give me one book recommendation, which I'll read with an SLA. < 1472256900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472256970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, my school library has a copy of Mein Kampf < 1472256987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the question < 1472256987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master. < 1472257001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep 'body weigh' wisdom quotes < 1472257002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes: btw, ^v, what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? <^v> 300 and USA nice to see that ^v is keeping with the spirit of the channel by providing completely useless answers to the question. < 1472257011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I can't place a hold because I don't know how to log in < 1472257020 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that they nowadays have an actual second-level .fi domain, instead of being a fourth-level domain. < 1472257105 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a section for the library, but I guess not a database thingie, just a manually updated list of new acquisitions and periodicals. < 1472257217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1472257228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked the wikipedia pages for John and Hank green < 1472257248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :John is 39, full name John Michael Green < 1472257257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hank is 36, full name William Henry Green II < 1472257284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... wait < 1472257295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1472257316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their father isn't named William (or, for that matter, Henry. He's named Mike, in fact) < 1472257329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why is Hank a II? < 1472257334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. what happened after Thor threw lightning at his father Odin? < 1472257338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is II different from jr? < 1472257341 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1472257361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think boilies idling < 1472257386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb knows the kings of England, so he can probaly tell you. < 1472257387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( What is the plural of boily? )
< 1472257427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: idling is evil. banish idling now. < 1472257441 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think you can be a II if you're reusing a name from a non-immediate ancestor. < 1472257444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wasn't ais523 idling the other day? < 1472257448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, define idling < 1472257475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's named after Eric Idle. < 1472257476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hppavilion[1] for horrendous possessive formation above
< 1472257488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah. non-immediate as in not parent, or non-immediate as in not any tier of n-parent? < 1472257509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "boily's idling" wouldn't be possessive < 1472257514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a contraction < 1472257519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1472257528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if anything, I get swatted for inability to use contractions, not possessives < 1472257531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats himself -----###
< 1472257531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England was James II in England and Ireland, and James VII in Scotland. < 1472257545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah, yes < 1472257548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's incorrect in any case < 1472257560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or is it < 1472257562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prescriptivist < 1472257572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're like what's-his-name's english teacher < 1472257589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what's-his-name hth < 1472257604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: his name is hppavilion[1] < 1472257621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if boily misses this it will be the second time in recent memory. i may have to stop greeting him. < 1472257628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNACCEPTABLE < 1472257642 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1472257652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i can accept it hth < 1472257656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh there you are boily < 1472257661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you know my address? < 1472257675 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! no, I do not. < 1472257681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472257684 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you did < 1472257696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you know my approximate geographical coördinates and body weigh? < 1472257716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's well-known which city hppavilion[1] is in. < 1472257725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least which airport hppavilion[1] is near. < 1472257732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, was boily the one who knows where everybody lives? I'm pretty sure e is, but not certain) < 1472257737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, right, you know my airport < 1472257743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know that, you can figure out my school < 1472257754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PANC < 1472257755 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PANC 262253Z VRB06KT 10SM SCT024 BKN200 17/13 A3018 RMK AO2 SLP222 T01720133 < 1472257758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's the library link: http://easthighlibrary.wikispaces.com/ < 1472257759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *cough* < 1472257760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1472257761 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 262253Z 29007KT 10SM FEW020 22/14 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP137 T02220144 < 1472257795 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1472257796 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 262320Z AUTO 35002KT 9999 NCD 17/10 Q1020 NOSIG < 1472257800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KORD < 1472257801 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORD 262251Z 07008KT 10SM SCT150 BKN200 BKN250 24/16 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP194 T02440156 < 1472257803 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was 30+ just the other day. < 1472257806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KPHX < 1472257806 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPHX 262251Z 06007KT 10SM SCT090 SCT120 BKN250 36/12 A2982 RMK AO2 SLP076 CB DSNT SE T03610122 < 1472257810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absurd as usual. < 1472257848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows phoenixes like it hot < 1472257914 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only steamy but burning hot, eh? < 1472257914 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, clearly < 1472257921 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The solution to prevent kiseki from messing up the hill < 1472257926 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :set up a script to auto-update it. < 1472257948 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, who is the current brainfuck hill-billy? < 1472257959 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck!? < 1472257969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could ANYBODY try to get A Wrinkle in Time banned!? < 1472257977 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick one: < 1472257981 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Religion < 1472257982 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Bigotry < 1472257993 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explains 95% of banned lists probably < 1472258004 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: arent those two synonyms for each other? < 1472258019 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Example of bigotry < 1472258031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Wrinkle in Time was pretty religiously flavored, as i vaguely recall. < 1472258042 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone probably didn't like the theology. < 1472258091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it was < 1472258103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a really bizarre book, in my memory < 1472258127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472258154 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sings under his breath "Barnatrúnni er ég löngu búinn að gleyma..." ("Childish-religion|-faith|-belief have I long forgotten.." is probably a close English translation)
< 1472258173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :religious sci-fi/fantasy, essentially. < 1472258181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the hunger games has religion? < 1472258206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Oooh, what language? < 1472258212 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Icelandic < 1472258220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :/ < 1472258227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian is the icelandic i thought i remembered yesterday < 1472258236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: What's it called? < 1472258272 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it is a verse from a lyrics of a song written by Megas. < 1472258287 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1472258291 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the webcomic SSSS been linked in here? < 1472258302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guitarparty.com/is/song/thu-bidur-allavegana-eftir-mer/ < 1472258305 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: good tune and lyrics composer. Nothing special as a singer. < 1472258330 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Twice per my logs. < 1472258343 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=195 (by me) and http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=479 (by int-e). < 1472258354 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472258355 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I read it. Svo margt sem stingur rökfræðilega séð með hverning íslendingar myndu bregðast við. < 1472258361 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking a lot of people in here might enjoy it < 1472258390 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I linked the former just because it described Finnish as "absolute gibberish". < 1472258395 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also cats. < 1472258401 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel bad for having to run that through google translate, Zarutian :( < 1472258416 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lol, it (obviously incorrectly) translated íslendingar as "americans" < 1472258426 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "American people" rather < 1472258464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what does "baby talk c1823" mean? < 1472258467 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the funny thing that there are quite a few Icelanders working for Google. Yet the translation provided by Google Translate is still pretty inaccurate < 1472258480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, c = circa, I think < 1472258489 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells many of them aren't working in Mountain View. < 1472258496 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the Icelandic office(s) aren't working on GT then < 1472258502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ Har du kvar din barnatro ifrån hemmets lugna bo ♫ < 1472258520 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a bunch of us Finns at Google as well, and Translate's not so hot for Finnish either. < 1472258539 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish TTS recently got a new voice, though. < 1472258554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Dammit, this is going to be one of those really good ones that I'll have to keep reading, isn't it? < 1472258573 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefly: GT uses statsticall models learned by seeing two versions of the same text. Problem is that often English text written by Icelanders is nothing like Icelandic text in structure. < 1472258579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: All I can say is I keep reading it. There's a bunch of backstory though. < 1472258585 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472258613 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's really good, lots of story for sure < 1472258690 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1472258690 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 262300Z 24004KT 30SM SCT210 OVC250 25/13 A2983 RMK CI3CS5 SLP104 DENSITY ALT 1200FT < 1472258708 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and it applies to stylometry too. One research on such had an interactive page where you answer questions regarding word use. I got 'Ebonics' when I actuality I was trying for Neuromancer Sprawlese < 1472258735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, is http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=195 accurate to the real world or is in-universe backstory? < 1472258759 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's accurate in real life too < 1472258764 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472258764 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pkudtmmkyymglvla QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472258771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472258782 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It neglects to mention that spoken Danish sounds like spoken Swedish with a potato in mouth. < 1472258785 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But other than that, sture. < 1472258797 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzle: so damn true it hurts < 1472258801 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/st/s/ < 1472258808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK Denmark (daneland?) < 1472258819 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :as are the maps you'll see, in that the names and positions of cities and other landmarks are accurate < 1472258822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your word for "island" is just ø < 1472258824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1472258833 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1472258864 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a number of Finnish islands named "ö". < 1472258870 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a swedish sort of poem/short story written in dialectal swedish that contains the sentence fragment 'å i åa ä e ö' < 1472258879 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that number's a large number. < 1472258881 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Dumt_fôlk < 1472258887 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in Icelandic it is eyja. But for islands having names they have the -ey suffix < 1472258896 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, Stand Still Stay Silent is fantastic. < 1472258905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Markets are too good < 1472258915 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1472258919 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: reminds me of "á á á á" which is actually an proper sentence < 1472258922 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "å" is Swedish for river, as well. < 1472258923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1472258951 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"å i åa ä e ö" "och i ån är en ö" "and in the river there's an island" < 1472258952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe pikhq will make it happen. < 1472258973 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizze: pronounced like au in Shaun? so it is not much diffrent from á? < 1472258976 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dialectal, standard swedish, english) < 1472258992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Police police police police police police police police police police police police police police < 1472259019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :police police police < 1472259034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch police < 1472259034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, sure < 1472259039 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I guess. It's the IPA /o/. < 1472259045 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maudits sites coréens de pas foutus de marcher sur le sens du monde que je me suis repris à je sais pas combien de fois pour booker juste un ***** de vol intérieur tsé veut dire messemble c'est pas compliqué AAAAAAAAAAARGH! < 1472259053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo < 1472259062 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(finally managed to book a domestic flight. fungot dammit was it difficult.) < 1472259062 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i worked on my languages for ages on the console < 1472259063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i thought icelandic á was a diphthong? < 1472259075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259087 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: where were we again? something to do about knowing your adress? < 1472259092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I have a better one. < 1472259098 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name for å in the Finnish alphabet is "Swedish o" (ruotsalainen o), because the Finnish 'o' grapheme generally means that sound. < 1472259101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not sure? < 1472259102 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are probably thinking of é < 1472259103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That whole sentence is ridiculous. < 1472259118 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which was from je < 1472259155 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had John while James had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher had had John while James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher John while James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher had had a better effect < 1472259160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How many hads had james had had had? < 1472259161 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the teacher < 1472259187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Drop the befinning and end < 1472259196 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which means jeg get skirvat nokkud vel skiljanlegan teksta fyrir norraent folvk < 1472259197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the ones inside < 1472259203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had had had pooch pooch had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259205 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's funny, but sort of a bit cheaty in that some of them are quoted < 1472259206 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's the joke < 1472259218 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the buffalo one is fun too < 1472259221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Right. And moreover one of them is implied to be wrong. < 1472259228 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1472259229 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (and that was not Icelandic but servral languages cooked together) < 1472259250 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kokoo kokoon koko kokko! Koko kokkoko? Koko kokko." (and many similar variants) is the typical Finnish example of that sort of thing. < 1472259255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jame while John had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1472259281 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to fix the sentence? < 1472259288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what, let's just say "had" as many times as possible and call it grammar < 1472259300 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1472259310 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is sarcastic sign language possible? < 1472259325 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :John, while James had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259340 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something thereabout < 1472259340 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen that before in a book < 1472259347 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one is "kas vain, sanoi kasvain, ja kasvoi vain, sillä vain kasvain voi kasvaa noin vain." < 1472259349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_orthography agrees with me < 1472259351 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, that is the answer they had given. < 1472259354 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be bothered to see if that is the right amount of 'had's < 1472259355 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: had in two in a row always looks strange to me because I think I made a mistake but it means "hafði haft" in Icelandic < 1472259380 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same for me < 1472259397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: You spoiled the illusion :( < 1472259422 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice to know why it is what it is, though < 1472259446 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do not read IPA so I am not sure but it is one single sound to me instead of two < 1472259546 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I remember in the book they had eleven "had"s) < 1472259618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly's book, while zzo38's book had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the channel. < 1472259650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: well i think english people have the same problem recognizing many of their diphthongs as diphthongs. < 1472259672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*native english-speaking < 1472259691 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps I speak it so quickly that I do not notice < 1472259715 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was a bit surprised to learn that native swedish (which is to say, swedish, sans some relatively recent loanwords) has no diphtongs at all < 1472259721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sssscomic.com/index.php?id=characters lists... kitty < 1472259722 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, in the standard dialect, I mean < 1472259724 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but the au diphtong is fun one to explain to tourists < 1472259730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is a cat. Meow. Meow. Meow." < 1472259787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Age: 1; Nationality: World; Area of Birth: The silent world(?); Profession: Cat; Languages: Meow < 1472259952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the flag cheat sheet xD < 1472259957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nordic crosses are kind of confusing < 1472259980 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw talking about IPA and such. Do any of you know of a speach to IPA strings apps that do not require net connection? < 1472260046 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think the size of each band and rectangle are the same across all the nordic flags. It is just the colours and where they go that changes < 1472260084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yeah, that's a thing < 1472260137 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random idea. < 1472260144 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric micro Redcode hill < 1472260151 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maximum program size limited by IRC lines < 1472260168 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but you should look into the heraldic crests of the countries. They are pretty neat < 1472260378 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472260561 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: the size of the "inner" lines/border between cross and fields might vary? < 1472260568 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :between say the norwegian and icelandic flags < 1472260597 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: a bit yes but not that much that it is visually distinctive < 1472260605 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1472260642 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably could dig out the exact ratios specified in the flaglaws if you want < 1472260652 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are nordic cross flags outside of the country ones, too, like the red-and-yellow for scania and the black-and-white (I think it was) for fennoswedes? < 1472260664 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that question mark should've been inside the parenthesis < 1472260695 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just know the Finnish one, which has an aspect ratio of 18:11 with a cross thickness of 3 units. < 1472260713 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the left edge of the vertical bar at x=5.) < 1472260720 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, the fennoswedish one is basically identical to the scanian one < 1472260732 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there is a gallery on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Cross_flag < 1472260821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swedish one seems to be narrower than the finnish one. < 1472260846 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's curious < 1472260861 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :5:2:9/4:2:4 vs. 5:3:10/4:3:4. < 1472260893 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's the same thing as with any other thing that should be standard but isn't. < 1472260990 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Denmark does 3:1:(4.5-4.25)/3:1:3, apparently. < 1472261019 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/4\.25/5.25/ < 1472261151 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the heraldry, obligatory reference: http://satwcomic.com/coat-of-arms < 1472261200 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Come on, guys, the sword is *behind* the head, not through it.) < 1472261248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell APic Why, oh why, did not i take the blue Pill? <-- you did. it's just that it makes you think you took the red one hth < 1472261249 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472261337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...swedish is projected to include 600000 words < 1472261390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Big Swedish Dictionary of Bigness is still being worked on, and will be done in 2017 < 1472261423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Den Stora Svenska Storordboken < 1472261459 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: reminds me of going to the automatic ATM machine < 1472261502 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And typing in your personal PIN number. < 1472261506 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, or are storord big words? (meaning long ones such as the Icelandic) < 1472261589 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Hellisheiðarvegavinnuverkamannakaffiskúrslykklakippunaglhetta ) < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:63: error: expected: "#", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1472261601 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, idris-bot < 1472261621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: that was the intent, although it was a joke < 1472261630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_last_known_speakers_of_languages include English? < 1472261645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it changes too fast hth < 1472261657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1472261668 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: violates the anti retro causal laws that will be enacted sometime in the future < 1472261677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Ah < 1472261688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the correct answer would be Teddy Roosevelt < 1472261733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Uncyclopedia needs to include mundane pages- like "List of American Fertilizer Manufacturers", which would include Donald Trump as the world's largest producer) < 1472261773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could make it hth < 1472261781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I could < 1472261797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they may have some anti-politics rule for all i know < 1472261802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Can one count as a native speaker of a language if one's parents raised one speaking it, but it was a second language for both of them? ) < 1472261807 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Almost definitely not < 1472261811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't looked at uncyclopedia in ages
< 1472261823 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would not want to see the politics on that anti-politics rule < 1472261862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if not, then there are no native hebrew speakers hth < 1472261878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no one spoke it natively for a long period < 1472261880 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: native speaker of a language must learn it as "móðurmál", meaning the first language the learn to speak < 1472261899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1472261904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if they learn to speak it badly? < 1472261923 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric : The Big Swedish Dictionary of Bigness is still being worked on, and will be done in 2017 ← SAOB? < 1472261934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: its? < 1472261942 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1472261944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: incidentally, that's how creole languages are created - children of people speaking pidgins intuitively flesh out the language until it becomes a real one < 1472261955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oooh < 1472261956 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if it's SAOB you're referring to, or something else < 1472261961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think so < 1472261964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=its < 1472261971 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1472261981 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The dictionary has approximately 450,000 main entries, and is expected to be complete around 2017." oh wow, feels weird < 1472261994 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that it is almost finished, that is) < 1472262045 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there are conlangs such as esparanto or lojban (the latter is good for meta lingustic discussions and when you want to winnow away uninentional ambigiouty) < 1472262048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun Fact: Wikipedia is actually plural, referring to the collection of pages (wikipedes) found on the site. < 1472262131 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so? I thought it was obvious from the stem -pedia from encyclopedia. (Which means literally encircling (all topics) pages aiui) < 1472262261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An accident, also known as an unintentional injury, is an undesirable incidental and unplanned event that could have been prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence." < 1472262269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, so you can't plan an accident? < 1472262281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, is it necessarily undesirable?) < 1472262306 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was writing this program http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/artifact/7c71bcf80cfcdf8d and I wanted to think of what should be the best algorithm for figuring out sharing meaning codes. I did think of a few things but don't know what would be best. < 1472262660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hillary Clinton < 1472262668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predecessor: Barack Obama < 1472262670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Successor: Herself < 1472263375 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you really be your own successor? < 1472263592 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a station called "Clinton" in Chicago on the Green Line 'L' train, the train info signs say "Clinton is next" when they're approaching. < 1472263604 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fortunately the L doesn't stop at Trump Tower.) < 1472263698 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzello < 1472263717 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you werent in chitown last i heard? < 1472263733 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I visited there last week, we had a big team thing. < 1472263738 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think it was last week. < 1472263750 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel < 1472263770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicagos a great place. why not just move there? < 1472263807 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the United States of Amber. < 1472263824 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did like the skyline, but I think I liked visiting more than living there. < 1472263848 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a boat photo: https://goo.gl/photos/AhRMjpgFKCMSVYEQ6 < 1472263949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to insist i log in, after showing the photo for a short moment < 1472263955 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1472263961 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably some sort of a better link. < 1472263994 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know how to get one. < 1472264026 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472264113 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what all did you eat there fizzie < 1472264121 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://zem.fi/tmp/c/ < 1472264131 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got a bonus photo as well. < 1472264138 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what us of amber means < 1472264171 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate at a place where they just served various bits and pieces of meat. < 1472264192 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: look up amber alerts < 1472264200 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what like a chiarrascuro? < 1472264217 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: did someone go missing in chi recently? < 1472264267 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Something like that. It was at ZED451. < 1472264271 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no? I am not sure by what you mean by chi. Chicago? < 1472264285 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I ate a chi-style hot dog and chi-style deep dish pizza, because that seemed to be the thing to do. < 1472264316 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I picked "Amber" as a random-ish word starting with "Am", as a reference to the Zelazny books. < 1472264331 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472264345 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you make it to a 2nd city show? < 1472264358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1472264373 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CELTIC CHICKEN < 1472264383 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, because that was a mutually exclusive organized option with the Chicago Architecture Foundation river cruise. < 1472264415 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah oh well < 1472264416 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1472264454 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do that much sightseeing, just walked around Millennium Park and the lakefront area a bit. < 1472264464 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt even realize river cruises were a thing. the chi river seems...a bit cramped < 1472264466 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caught a Tauros. < 1472264478 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :millennium park is cool < 1472264492 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :near where the segway and bike tours leave < 1472264505 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the cloud sculpture < 1472264532 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have several photos of the Bean, it looks pretty weird from below what with all the reflections. < 1472264622 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The week before that I was in Cambridge, saw the MIT Museum and the Mount Auburn cemetery. They were good places to visit as well. < 1472264634 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it was the most car-oriented cemetery I've ever been at. < 1472264653 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Admittedly quite big and hilly. But still.) < 1472264685 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1472264983 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472265024 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472265180 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if the trumpers form a new confederacy? < 1472265194 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then win? < 1472265220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472265223 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then hillary clinton's successor will be noone, like Gorbachev, and Nicolas II < 1472265358 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As "PResident of the Soviet Union", Gorbachev had no predecessor, and no successor < 1472265369 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472265471 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah help me promote EPNG https://gist.github.com/SoniEx2/60a025d5901f67b2e549dca4a0ba7d46 < 1472265484 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna do this to piss ppl off mostly, and make esolangs a bit more mainstream < 1472265491 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh < 1472265497 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making esolangs more mainstream would piss ppl off < 1472265499 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1472265573 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472265592 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472265797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1472265895 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472266269 0 :dos!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1472266290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is 4 the only number where len(name(n)) = n? < 1472266306 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is 'tre' in swedish < 1472266321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472266328 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 4 is 'fyra'; those are the only two though < 1472266332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making people pay for a course on how to use Linux is just wrong < 1472266337 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least the only digits < 1472266384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Maybe a number for which the name is seven digits shorter? < 1472266396 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why precisely seven? < 1472266396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm only really counting letters- dashes and spaces are excluded) < 1472266412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Wait, no, eight < 1472266418 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same qustion) < 1472266440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: "n1 e2 g3 a4 t5 i6 v7 e8" < 1472266462 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1472266494 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: generally doing something only to piss people off seems ill-advised < 1472266534 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I wanna piss ppl off *through* making esolangs more mainstream < 1472266552 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally think esolangs should be more mainstream < 1472266556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: What is EPNG? < 1472266559 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if they should be < 1472266569 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they linked a spec up there < 1472266576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yeah < 1472266582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: But reading is hard < 1472266634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Is the point that it looks like a legit language with a buzzwordiful description, so businesses will make their use it to be more sleek and modern and popular with the youth, but the language itself is bizarre and impossible to understand? < 1472266677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I can't see this spec < 1472266691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the gist? because it doesn't look like a real spec, just a thought < 1472266706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was before I showed up? < 1472266752 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: my first question reading the spec was "what does 'executable data' mean? native machine code? embedded ELF/exe? shellscript? undefined?" and my second one was "where did that shebang line in the example come from?" < 1472266780 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, it's an embedded file < 1472266795 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should mention that somewhere :P < 1472266798 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the format of such file is not specified < 1472266812 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because different systems use different formats < 1472266835 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It simply says it contains executable data, doesn't seem to mention 'file' at all except at the end in the context "PNG files" < 1472266842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM CONFUSED < 1472266847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE UNCONFUSE ME < 1472266852 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well the gist is called "EPNG spec" < 1472266856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472266870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is < 1472266937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: This is horrifying < 1472266946 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], why? < 1472266963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: I don't know < 1472266972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Is the point that it's a PNG containing an executable as well? < 1472266982 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], yes, that's the point < 1472266992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Oh, I... guess I see < 1472266997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was thinking of it wrong < 1472267007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You /know/ the APNG will run an executable < 1472267015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like it's a way to slip in viruses :P < 1472267017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well...) < 1472267032 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], it's no more dangerous than .bat files < 1472267069 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'd say it's less dangerous than .bat files, because some servers are vulnerable to .bat files while no servers are vulnerable to .png files < 1472267071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I see that now < 1472267096 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except the ones that let you embed PHP in .png files, but those should burn anyway) < 1472267105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, andif looks fairly interesting < 1472267115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it isn't < 1472267153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just use a normal and < 1472267183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the trivial use case, you just do 'if x and y: / block 1 / else: / block 2' < 1472267222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I missed block1/2/3 < 1472267267 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472267273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only saw 2 and 3 and I read them as 1 and 2 < 1472267287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This could be interesting, though the use case hasn't immediately come to mind < 1472267674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh look, obvious bullshit: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-25/standing-desks-are-coming-for-your-children < 1472267720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a statistically significant (by which we mean 5%, the bare minimum of significance) improvement in the BMI of kids using them in a 400-participant study over 2 years < 1472267749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The study was also done by a guy who makes standing desks for schools, but there's obviously no conflict of interest here. < 1472267919 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is off to bed
< 1472267927 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472268223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472268525 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472268728 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472268750 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472269090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/wob* < 1472269091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/wob_jona < 1472269108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/wob_jona{,s} < 1472269110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472269610 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:557f:eba5:d880:68b4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472269610 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:557f:eba5:d880:68b4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1472270191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Challenger5 5* 10New user account < 1472270246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh a registration < 1472270305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472270306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600//2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle. < 1472270321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/howg < 1472270322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "wisdom/$1" < 1472270338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hoag < 1472270339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1472270350 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49650&oldid=49630 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+256) 10Introduced myself < 1472270359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1472270422 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472270433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a person who can follow instructions! < 1472270441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing! < 1472270512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49651&oldid=49069 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+68) 10 < 1472270614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07InterpretMe14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49652&oldid=47069 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+44) 10Clarified some things < 1472270622 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472270699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed quotes --template '{date(date)} {desc}\n' < 1472270701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wed Aug 17 03:12:31 2016 +0000 sled quotes//1287s,I.*,[...] & [...], \ Tue Aug 16 20:47:38 2016 +0000 addquote I told someone to tell the queen to tell the prime minister to cancel the EU. \ Sun Aug 14 02:31:47 2016 +0000 addquote I couldn\'t help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in < 1472270719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed quotes --template "{date(date, '%Y')} {desc}\n" < 1472270720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: parse error: filter date expects one argument < 1472270727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fossies.org/linux/mercurial/mercurial/help/templates.txt suggests that that should work. < 1472270731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong? < 1472270738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old hg version or something? < 1472270784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed wisdom/tanebvention --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" < 1472270785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-01 slwd tanebvention//s# w# metar, w# \ 2016-07-25 slwd tanebvention//s#Go,#Go, Windows 98,# \ 2016-07-15 sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/the/Fueue, the/ \ 2016-06-21 slwd tanebvention//s#p#Tanebventions, p# \ 2016-06-17 sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/ [(]math[)]/: math/ \ 2016-06-13 le/rn < 1472270786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, it took em 3 tries. :( < 1472270794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Challenger514]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49653 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+179) 10Created a user page. < 1472270796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's doable, but I wanted a time as well as a date. < 1472270800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe a time is excessive. < 1472270836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/doag//hg log --removed --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1472270837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/doag < 1472270855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/dowg//doag "wisdom/$1" < 1472270857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/dowg < 1472270860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg 2600 < 1472270861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-08-13 revert accbc9c5c7ec \ 2015-08-12 echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ 2015-06-07 learn 2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch\'s whistle. < 1472270869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Challenger514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49654&oldid=49653 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+1) 10 < 1472270872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough. < 1472270971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball dowg? < 1472270971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better not tell you now. < 1472270981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball does outlook work good? < 1472270982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a doubt. < 1472270996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :says you < 1472271000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball What's up dowg? < 1472271001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sources say no. < 1472271023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball what's the outlook on pooches? < 1472271024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1472271031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball says yes on pooches < 1472271032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certain. < 1472271062 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball QVIS·CUSTODIET·IPSOS·CVSTODES < 1472271063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a doubt. < 1472271086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what's your attitude on pooches < 1472271097 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a fan. < 1472271099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball vs. pikhq < 1472271100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot predict now. < 1472271103 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :An adamant fan at that. < 1472271123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball QVOVSQVE·TANDEM·ABVTERE·PIKHQ·HACKEGONE·NOSTRA < 1472271124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes definitely. < 1472271136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, *NOSTRO < 1472271138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think) < 1472271243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A man known only as "Dean": "You're a revisionist" < 1472271276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me: "You won't have said that in 50 years" < 1472271298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more visionary than a regular visionist. < 1472271305 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(True story) < 1472271353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He didn't laugh though. I think he may have gotten his sense of humor surgically removed. Though he's also german, so...) < 1472271378 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym "surgically revised" hth < 1472271433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Froo: Hoo < 1472271441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do nazi what german has to do with it. < 1472271476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you this data type? data Froo f a = L a | B (Froo f (f a)) < 1472271478 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "QVIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CVSTODES" means? < 1472271480 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472271517 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "Who will guard the guards themselves?" < 1472271535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who will pooch the pooches themselves? < 1472271559 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472271596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :QVIS CANET IPSOS CANES < 1472271838 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271878 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : // Please do not give it a custom ktyp or make it cool in any way < 1472271878 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : // whatsoever, because players are insane. Usually, not being dragged < 1472271878 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : // down by sanity is good, but this is not the case here. < 1472271948 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472272242 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppl care about sanity? < 1472272251 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know scientists and engineers don't < 1472272256 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472272271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some categorical justification for Free? < 1472272275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of like a free monad. < 1472272312 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472272390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um, you mean it _isn't_ a free monad? < 1472272403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that would be data Free f a = L a | B (f (Free f a)) < 1472272416 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472272442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what Free is? < 1472272454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confusel
< 1472272471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472272473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also trapped himself, and starts whistling
< 1472272503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i thought that was how Free _was_ defined. < 1472272509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had it coming / he had it coming / he only had himself to blame < 1472272523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Free is defined by being left adjoint to the forgetful functor or something. < 1472272528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Free and Froo are not the same type. < 1472272549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did you misspell a bit above < 1472272588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes. < 1472272590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant Froo. < 1472272596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD < 1472272598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I see why you were confusel. < 1472272622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all so clear. < 1472272626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except what Froo is. < 1472272665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the backscroll, it may be a free monad over the pingout functor. < 1472272680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The method employed I would gladly explain, / While I have it so clear in my head, / If I had but the time and you had but the brain -- / But much yet remains to be said." < 1472272708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was going to ask the what the pingout functor was. < 1472272774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :named after the famous french category theorist Edouard Pingout < 1472272812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Édouard < 1472273358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait < 1472273397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does n/m+o/p = (n+o)/(m+p)? I don't remember this being true, but I'm not sure < 1472273456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273459 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test): < 1472273459 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 < 1472273476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [n,m,o,p] ==> (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273479 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1472273479 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • No instance for (Show Test.QuickCheck.Safe.SProperty) arising from a use o... < 1472273503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p] || (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 2 tests and 3291 shrinks): < 1472273506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 37.170373475361615 0.10771071128386465 -1.0578161875294434 -0.6073094205635062 < 1472273510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1472273514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Rational] || (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 2 tests and 6 shrinks): < 1472273517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-3406868177675) % 2677559980947 4350826311759 % 167300784848 5458341750827 ... < 1472273523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a mess. < 1472273557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm getting here is that the only falsifications are either mathematically invalid or the result of computational limits < 1472273606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be that hard to falsify that equation since it's false almost everywhere... < 1472273622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's false. < 1472273623 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472273634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting better of QuickCheck. < 1472273641 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,2,3,4 should fail < 1472273642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\n m o p -> (n/m+o/p, (n+o)/(m+p))) 1 2 3 4 < 1472273645 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1.25,0.6666666666666666) < 1472273651 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1472273677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m+o/p = (np+om)/mp < 1472273771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to suggest 1,2,1,2 < 1472273784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, 1,1,1,1 < 1472273797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\n m o p -> (n/m+o/p, (n+o)/(m+p))) 1 1 1 1 < 1472273799 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (2.0,1.0) < 1472273802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy hth < 1472273864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Rational] || (n/m+o/p) /= ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273866 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472273902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy indeed < 1472273905 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbhbbltcqgzdpkek JOIN :#esoteric < 1472273910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Rational] || (n/m+o/p) /= ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273913 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472273918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: you're scow at shrinking hth < 1472273956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Integer] || (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472273959 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Exception: 'Ratio has zero denominator' (after 10 tests and 4 sh... < 1472273959 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -7 -1 1 1 < 1472273969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1472273991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1472273995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1472273996 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voters quickly forget what a man says. < 1472273997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Integer] || m+p == 0 || (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472274000 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 4 tests): < 1472274000 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 1 -1 1 < 1472274009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why not just add m+p to the list tdnh < 1472274034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] || (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472274037 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not going too well < 1472274053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use ==> instead of || < 1472274055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (==>) < 1472274057 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :STestable prop => Bool -> prop -> Test.QuickCheck.Safe.SProperty < 1472274073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it wasn't working for you < 1472274081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so you should figure out what went wrong. < 1472274103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] ==> (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472274106 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1472274106 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Couldn't match expected type ‘Test.QuickCheck.Safe.SProperty’ with actual ... < 1472274114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274117 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Exception: 'Ratio has zero denominator' (after 1 test): < 1472274117 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 0 0 0 < 1472274120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1472274130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except you need to invert the left side. < 1472274142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274145 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1472274180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274183 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you're checking /= < 1472274190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a scientific journal covering the psychology of housecats? < 1472274195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this seems fine. < 1472274205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) == ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274207 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test and 3 shrinks): < 1472274207 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 1 1 -2 < 1472274217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, i was wondering if the original was _always_ false. < 1472274230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274232 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274235 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So did you figure it out? < 1472274239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's false 200% of the time < 1472274242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figure what out? < 1472274303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a/b+c/d =? (a+c)/(b+d) < 1472274322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a*1/b+c*1/d < 1472274329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1472274335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, everyone said it was false. < 1472274340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472274340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1472274348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently it's used in forensics < 1472274368 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472274372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fingerprinting < 1472274375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they've defined 0/0 < 1472274444 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472274521 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472274533 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pony does that, too < 1472274594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god... < 1472274604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin" < 1472274618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've been reading it wrong this whole time < 1472274628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's "we" < 1472274628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many angels are there who know a dance that can be done on the head of a pin" < 1472274632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Us < 1472274642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a b c d -> (a/b+c/d, (a+c)/(b+d))) 1 1 (-4) 2 < 1472274645 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-1.0,-1.0) < 1472274659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There are certainly special cases where it's true. < 1472274665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1472274682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i concluded you needed a negative number < 1472274817 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never read that < 1472274880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a+c)/(b+d) = a/b * b/(b+d) + c/d * d/(b+d), so it's a convex combination < 1472274897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus in cannot be the sum unless negative numbers is involved. < 1472274927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, the 26th First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony is coming up in september < 1472275185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, when Abraham was looking for people in Sodom, he should have checked each person for goodness, then went before the LORD with the number he found, and asked whether that satisfies the baseline. Duh. < 1472275317 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know who win the prize? < 1472275352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ORD a category, like CAT? < 1472275400 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: How should he have checked each person for goodness? < 1472275423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Detect Evil, I think. < 1472275428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: However he did it originally. < 1472275477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: iirc abraham wasn't _in_ sodom hth < 1472275505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought he went to Sodom to find the good people < 1472275524 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scowdom < 1472275524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it was Lot < 1472275549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Owns_the_Future%3F, Jarod Lanier rants about how Google gets a bunch of money from using the translations based on other peoples' work without paying them. He proposes an alternative system, where you source everything and a series of "micropayments" compensates people for anything new they put on the web. < 1472275587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) how does this affect FOSS and (b) As a person who has ever played a game ever, the phrase "micropayments" (similar to "microtransations") sets off alarms < 1472275598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And Lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been. But she did look back, and I love her for that, because it was so human. So she was turned into a pillar of salt. So it goes." < 1472275604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kurt vonnegut is too good < 1472275803 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472275850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Haven't seen this one. What is it? < 1472275864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book is Slaughterhouse Five. < 1472275869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was on your banned list earlier. < 1472275907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ZZZ < 1472275930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472275932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It was < 1472275939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to read it already < 1472275945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good. < 1472275965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Project Xanadu is... eh < 1472275970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scownadu < 1472275981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, it's a bit scow < 1472275987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"9. Every document can contain a royalty mechanism at any desired degree of granularity to ensure payment on any portion accessed, including virtual copies ("transclusions") of all or part of the document." < 1472276001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make people pay by the nybble < 1472276010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a talk by Nelson once. < 1472276014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, you only bought the version with the first half of each letter" < 1472276022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was very unimpressed. < 1472276084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"8. Permission to link to a document is explicitly granted by the act of publication." < 1472276087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice at least < 1472276096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put it on the internet, people get to look at it < 1472276125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It counters those deep-link-resister assholes < 1472276160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Links can be followed from all endpoints? Not sure if that's entirely desirable < 1472276223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if someone on particularlyfilthyporn.ass links to mylittlepony.yay? < 1472276884 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472276901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink assumes that the user knows what Wikipedia is in explaining how Hyperlinks work < 1472276977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define: Hypolink < 1472277153 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: who cares < 1472277168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Me < 1472277201 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you explain it without defining dozens of pther stuff first < 1472277549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not sure? < 1472277556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, Wikipedia or Hypolink?) < 1472277574 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperlink < 1472277780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Oh < 1472277801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I was making a joke. Because the wikipedia page assumes you've ever used a wikipedia page. < 1472277827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, if you look at a clock when you aren't wearing pants the moment it changes to 11:34, you're cursed for eternity. Who knew? < 1472278429 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell yeah, i made france go commie! < 1472278463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel the power of my soviet propaganda! < 1472278478 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm playing Hearts of Iron 4) < 1472278528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, they've improved the game a lot since the version in Windows 3.1 < 1472278730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's awesome. I'm playing the Soviet Union as if Stalin wasn't insane with paranoia < 1472278789 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fomented a communist uprising in France, creating the French Commune < 1472278890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Britain will be commies too by 1940 < 1472278930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this could backfire and I'll end up at war with america < 1472279240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, the queen of spades is scow < 1472279366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I was disappointed at 21:14:36 < 1472279454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet intrigued < 1472280659 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472281034 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of to make up such thing in Magic: the Gathering cards, as new cards with multi types such as: planeswalker land, Aura enchantment planeswalker, Aura enchantment land, world land, instant creature. < 1472281250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1472281258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472281439 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to make a instant creature, I have written a new rule (or a clarification to an existing rule, depending on your point of view), in order to make it to work. < 1472281462 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I spent the extra money for the Sabaton music DLC < 1472281484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472282110 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! my propaganda is so strong, soon hitler will lose his majority of public support among Germans! < 1472282129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the end of 1938 < 1472282512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472282898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472283453 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone frame themself for a crime that has not been committed (and does not intend do commit such crime)? < 1472283823 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:94b6:22f7:3772:8f5e JOIN :#esoteric < 1472283872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia mentions someone who voluntarily confessed to a crime that he could not possibly have committed; he claimed he started a fire by throwing a bomb through a window in a bakery, but actually he the bakery had no windows, he did not enter the country until after the fire started, and he was crippled and unable to throw a bomb. < 1472284646 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285484 0 :puck1pedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285565 0 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285569 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285633 0 :deltab_!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285696 0 :erdic_!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285812 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285813 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472285813 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285814 0 :puck1pedia!?@? NICK :puckipedia < 1472285819 0 :erdic_!?@? NICK :erdic < 1472285864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472285875 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285877 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472286016 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472286633 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472286959 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7kxuwbsc4hb2u.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472287459 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re len(name(n)) = n, I'm pretty sure we discussed this before, and Finnish (IIRC) has only 5 ("viisi"); but len(name(8)) = 9 ("kahdeksan") and len(name(9)) = 8 ("yhdeksän"). < 1472287498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Hebrew and English 4 is the only number with that property. < 1472287518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was presented to us as a puzzle in maybe third grade, in Hebrew. I was surprised that it worked in English too. < 1472287610 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. If we go with characters for normal writing. Japanese has only 1 ("一"). < 1472287641 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if we consider hiragana, there's... None. < 1472287645 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian only has "3" < 1472287688 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:94b6:22f7:3772:8f5e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472287729 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 is, I believe, the only number whose English spelling is in alphabetical order < 1472287840 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Wait, that's the Sinitic numbers. If we use the Japonic numbers (hitotsu futatsu mittsu, instead of ichi ni san), then there's one which fits in hiragana; 3 ("みっつ"). < 1472287855 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one which fits in normal script! 2 ("二つ") < 1472287890 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And one which fits in Roman alphabet; 3 ("san"). < 1472287939 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish gets tantalisingly close for some later numbers (11 -> 10 "yksitoista", 12 -> 11 "kaksitoista") but doesn't quite manage to match. < 1472287948 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name length is roughly proportional to the logarithm, right? < 1472287988 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Special words for 11, 12 instead of using the same pattern as other 1x numbers are a scow.) < 1472287997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that Go interface vtables are computed at runtime. < 1472288029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent a bit wondering how else it would work. But it turns out they just do it at runtime, type-checking and everything. < 1472288116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did you ever write any Ada? < 1472288130 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no :( < 1472288141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're missing out. < 1472288170 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But don't bother with Go. < 1472288194 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend recently finished an internship working with Go < 1472288206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to do an internship working with Go? < 1472288390 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if I can help it < 1472288666 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.barrucadu.co.uk/posts/2016-08-25-three-months-of-go.html < 1472288678 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's his write up of his time with Go < 1472288847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like a Haskell person. < 1472288869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Did you write much Go? < 1472288876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you use what's-it-called? < 1472288899 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's doing a PhD on concurrency testing in Haskell, I'm fairly sure he's a Haskell person < 1472288907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't say the name, but fortunately I've forgotten the name anyway. < 1472289549 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the only Go I've written has been [NAME WITHHELD]. < 1472289601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1472289908 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"absence of evidence is evidence of absence of evidence" < 1472289958 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing you can use for computing numbers from logs data. < 1472289993 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Google app is a-broken. :( < 1472290079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is this a thing whose name is public? < 1472290123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose not. < 1472290148 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to Google for the name, but like I said, the app's broken. It's a very generic name anyway. < 1472290231 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the http://www.unofficialgoogledatascience.com/ blog mentions the name. But maybe they're rogue agents. < 1472290279 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many posts. < 1472290403 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472290403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1472290433 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the Go replacement for Sawzall, anyway. (Apparently Sawzall's been open-soured so the name should be safe.) < 1472290454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some Sawzall which I think got checked in at one point. < 1472290461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It computes a function. < 1472290476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sawzall was a scow language to write that code in. < 1472290562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But better than the alternative. < 1472290644 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also written a go out < 1472290651 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grmbl. < 1472290672 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Go program to output a serialised protobuf. < 1472290731 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I couldn't remember if [NAME WITHHELD] could do it that way too. < 1472290900 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's another name I can find mentioned on a handful of pages but don't know if I should. Not that I really see why it would matter much.) < 1472290958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people leak a lot of names. < 1472290987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code name of Gmail is not a secret, though. < 1472291014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... Google announced it publicly. But maybe on Google+. < 1472291020 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot what it was. < 1472291021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it might still be considered secret. < 1472291030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/maybe/only/ < 1472291076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether the code name of the search app is secret, because I'm fairly sure the string is in the .apk somewhere. < 1472291145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code name of Google web search? Or your thing? < 1472291202 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Android app. < 1472291224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which app? < 1472291239 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The search app. < 1472291263 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that's just named "Google". < 1472291283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Android app? < 1472291320 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's "Velvet", it's right there in the .apk file name in Android images, there's a bunch of people asking what it is.) < 1472291413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Velvet is scow. < 1472291416 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fabric, I mean. < 1472291420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can hardly stand fabrics like velvet. < 1472291449 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a subproject called Velour. < 1472291466 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably a bunch of other fabric names. < 1472291557 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, we've got nothing when it compares to the forest of code names on the server side of the search stack, I can't even follow their conversation usually. < 1472291592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1472291692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a t-shirt and a hoodie with my PA acronym on it last week. It says "API", that's a nice unambiguous name. < 1472292562 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472292989 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472294491 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472294763 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472296056 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472296443 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472296464 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472296769 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472296903 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://nicknash.me/2012/07/31/adversaries/ this is very interesting < 1472299116 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this in any way connected to the aqsort earlier this week? < 1472299140 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm. somewhat silly question, I'm looking for some causal link, rather than thematic) < 1472299402 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, the second paragraph answers my question... < 1472299707 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I like this perspective on sorting algorithms. < 1472299707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rather than do all that reading though, we’ll just attack the constant factors ..." tsk tsk tsk. < 1472299753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see animations of the DAGs of various inputs through various algorithms as they're being sorted. < 1472299778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has someone made something like that? < 1472300138 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that could be fun. < 1472300200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other "news" the Human Resource Machine is a cute little game but costs about twice as much as it should, IMHO. < 1472300294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be interesting with things other than sorting algorithms. < 1472300382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It looks from the trailer like a typical drag-and-drop visual programming game with blocks and so on. < 1472300386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it more than that? < 1472300475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a pretty wide genre. < 1472300486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should do more TIS-100 maybe. < 1472300751 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not much more than that... it's just fun to have that person running around executing the instructions < 1472300816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other questions. What if the graph might have cycles? Then your job is to find strongly connected components or something. What sorts of sorting algorithms would you use for that? < 1472300832 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472300844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$10 is twice as much as it should cost? < 1472300957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play TIS-100? < 1472301347 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472301363 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472301451 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I didn't < 1472301536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it, though I don't seem to have played very much of it. < 1472301567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should try it given the other games and things that you liked. < 1472301571 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of liked it but it's just so insanely limited < 1472301575 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to buying games cheaply (humble bundle, gog special offers) ... that may play a role here. < 1472301604 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when it comes to judging the price) < 1472301611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like full price is $7. < 1472301616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean HRM < 1472301734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, being limited is the point. < 1472301756 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472301765 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it really was too much imo < 1472301794 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were really basic things, mostly concerning data flow, that you couldn't do without building the program around it < 1472301889 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an accumulator, memory cells, and in the end you get 11 instructions (in, out, store, load, add, sub, jumps (unconditional, if zero, if nonzero), and two CISC operations: postfix ++ and -- on a memory cell, simultaneously loading the result value. < 1472301894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in HRM) < 1472302023 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472302054 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and there's indirect addressing (pointer in a memory cell). < 1472302104 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I shouldn't complain about the price too much. < 1472302118 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes browse for reviews on "Obduction"
< 1472302153 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :86% metacritic... a promising start < 1472302157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been hearing people talk about it in another channel. < 1472302169 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's no zip (lightning bolt) support. < 1472302181 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't trust aggregate game reviews as far as i could throw them < 1472302261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that Magic: The Gathering tournament where the judges decided that all the fast-paced decks were invalid? < 1472302272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a scandal. < 1472302284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In aggregate, at least. < 1472302305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that doesn't even work. < 1472302316 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can tell there were plans at one time or another to build out Obduction into a slightly bigger game, with a few awkwardly-empty areas and a bit too much space between some of the important elements." < 1472302342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no zip mode that will really be draining a lot of fun out of the game < 1472302410 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like I don't really want to apy 30 euros for it right now, but will keep watching for offers. < 1472302463 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and why does $30 translates into €30) < 1472302464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to play TIS-100, right? < 1472302478 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or finish snakebird < 1472302482 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still unchanged) < 1472302511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or give the Tangle another try. (Spider And Web) < 1472302512 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472302566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tangle is pretty small. < 1472302569 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many levels does TIS-100 have? (HRM has 36 that involve actual programming, and some coffe breaks with *very* random story) < 1472302579 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shitload < 1472302592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you prefer GOG or Steam? < 1472302601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gog < 1472302625 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, I don't even have the linux steam client) < 1472302638 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and for puzzle games like this I don't want to boot up windows) < 1472302648 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472302753 0 :deltab_!?@? NICK :deltab < 1472302910 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:990:9e6e:ef0c:c556 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472302915 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:990:9e6e:ef0c:c556 QUIT :Client Quit < 1472303343 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472303420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 EUR is 34 USD? < 1472303433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, USD is so high. < 1472303624 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 30 * 1.4562 < 1472303627 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 43.686 < 1472303639 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh. < 1472304075 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472304368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, time to go to sleep. < 1472304609 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472305007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The gog.com front page says "$1 is not €1" and promises to make up the difference. Do they not actually do that? < 1472305034 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to some extent, yes. < 1472305108 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so a) some games actually have adjusted prices (for example, TIS 100 would've cost EUR 6.29) and they add a coupon to the account for some games that don't have this price adjustment. < 1472305147 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that means you only get the benefit if you purchase from them again... so there's a huge advertising angle to this, especially since the coupons expire after a while (6 months? a year?). < 1472305183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expirinig coupons? Scow. < 1472305190 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's 1.4562? < 1472305198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should just let inflation take care of it. < 1472305203 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. EUR to CAD. < 1472305205 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *and* nagging reminders when they do expire < 1472305215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: makes sense, thanks < 1472305322 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tesselated intelligence system", hmm. < 1472305363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Make sure to read the manual. < 1472305402 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I already figured that that would be required. < 1472305451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can also press F1 or something like that to get a summary. < 1472305460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I was wrong before but now I'm really going to sleep. < 1472305511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the first level can be done without reading the manual ;) < 1472305525 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I expect this kind of extrapolation has its limits. < 1472306536 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should play TIS-100 more
< 1472306679 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: COMPONENT CHICKEN < 1472306682 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and boo for making the manual full of images < 1472306845 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. searching for a Mnemonic doesn't work, for no good reason) < 1472306993 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Isn't it sort-of part of the story that it's just as can? < 1472306997 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/as c/a sc/ < 1472307011 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe but it's still awful. < 1472307024 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=456879799 ... < 1472310167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually F1 proably satisfies my most urgent needs (as I found out half an hour ago) < 1472310341 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, one row down, but I should do some other things. < 1472310406 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472310848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472311307 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1472311307 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 271350Z 11006KT 040V140 9999 FEW080 31/17 Q1018 NOSIG < 1472311316 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1472311410 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah 9999 < 1472311413 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's bad < 1472311423 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike the 31 < 1472311430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest is fine < 1472311439 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, primes are awful < 1472311442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 31 could be worse, I suppose, given the season. < 1472311445 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the 17? < 1472311459 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 17 is helpful < 1472311467 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: do you know how to read those? < 1472311470 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1472311504 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have tried to teach me but i was stronger < 1472311506 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :31/17 mean: it's 31°C, so fairly hot; but dewpoint is 17°C so the air is quite dry. < 1472311535 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless, i'll forget in 20 minutes < 1472311540 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 9999 is visibility, so the air is clear. Nothing wrong there. < 1472311555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm trying to help you make sense of the current discussion. < 1472311571 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care all that much whether you'll be confused again in the future. < 1472311604 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the "discussion" is, I guess, more of a monologue on my part. < 1472311654 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, who changed the mutt hotkey for "flag this message" from F (-f) to f? < 1472311658 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a conversation between you and lambdabot afaict < 1472311684 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: As you can see, I've moved on. < 1472311749 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :Short attention sp... wow, look at this! | The string theory channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1472311772 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is FEW080 the wind direction and speed? < 1472311780 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let me guess) < 1472311925 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472311935 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthras1ir: no, those are layers of clourds < 1472311943 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1472311957 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar < 1472311960 0 :lifthras1ir!?@? NICK :lifthrasiir < 1472311977 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :040V140 is wind (hmm, 40kph, various directions, gusts up to 140kph? I'd have to check) < 1472312030 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472312032 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually I probably got that wrong < 1472312124 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB < 1472312125 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 271420Z 27015KT CAVOK 22/06 Q1014 < 1472312127 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :11006KT is wind (mostly from 110°, 6 knots) 040V140 indicates that the direction varies betwwo 40° and 140° < 1472312181 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so approximately NE to SE. < 1472312191 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :gusts up to 140 km/h sounds like it'd be a bit terrifying < 1472312197 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1472312207 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't think
< 1472312211 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happens :P < 1472312477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49655&oldid=47354 5* 03Sesshomariu 5* (+235) 10/* Examples */ < 1472313420 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone gave me a crappy tablet with an allwinner a33 and 512m ram and .3mpx front camera and 8gb flash < 1472313432 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me 5 good reasons why i shouldn't turn this into a mini server < 1472313486 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have a DSL port < 1472313496 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't connect to internet without a phone line < 1472313513 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or wait, did you say good reasons? < 1472313523 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472313550 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even have a phone line here < 1472313614 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, go for it < 1472313618 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1472313645 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want to get my old Windows 98 computer up and running again < 1472313772 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A server with a camera, that's novel < 1472313794 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :an awful crappy camera that i would never use < 1472313797 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could actually use the camera as an entropy source :D < 1472313826 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly more useful than it'd be as, y'know, a camera intended to take photos < 1472313852 0 :Hooloo42!?@? NICK :Hoolootwo < 1472314311 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472314377 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1472314428 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad41e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472315389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472316386 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472316621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( to, tre, fire ) . o O ( en/ei/ett) < 1472316656 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472316901 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1472316918 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've remembered it's to in norwegian < 1472316933 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :to tree-fire < 1472316938 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also danish, i think < 1472317184 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472317283 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the numbers? < 1472317307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're their own length < 1472317319 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that game yes < 1472317326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in alphabetic order. < 1472317342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding the cycles of the function that takes number to length of representation in some language < 1472317352 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the cycles that is < 1472317376 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's always just a finitely many cycles for any sane language, because all large enough numbers have much fewer letters than their value) < 1472317404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUCC SUCC SUCC ZERO < 1472317450 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Hungarian, the cycles are (2, 5) and (4) < 1472317586 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah hm < 1472317625 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: so the word for 2 is five letters and the one for 5 is two letters? < 1472317628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a language where there's a cycle to which you can get from only finitely many starting numbers by releated iteration? < 1472317631 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes < 1472317715 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish has the problem that 1-10 sans 4,8 are three letters (4,8 are 4 letters) < 1472317729 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of ruins any attempts at nice cycles < 1472317799 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: is (3) the only cycle? < 1472317803 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1472317805 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3) and (4) < 1472317810 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, because "fire" < 1472317817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyra < 1472317825 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1472317827 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fyra in swedish; oerjan's were norwegian < 1472317929 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how many numbers are there that have four letters? < 1472318028 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8, 11, 12. then there are probably infinitely many others that land there < 1472318100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,9,10 ; 3,5,7,13,14,16,18,23,25,27 ; 4,6,8,11,12,15,17,19,20,21,22,24,26,28,29 < 1472318128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first group doesn't get many hits up to 29 < 1472318229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't have said that: 33,34,35,36,37,38 ; ; 30,31,32,39 < 1472318259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, probably infinitely many for all cycles < 1472318294 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's that? < 1472318306 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472318318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i split the numbers according to which of 2,3,4 they end up in in norwegian < 1472318347 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1472318388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what you want, you should probably look for a short length that no bigger numbers hit < 1472318391 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Hungarian, 20 and 100 have 4 letters, and that's enough to make them infinitely many < 1472318400 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1472318537 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, now I'm wondering what the split between the three groups would look like if you take the limit < 1472318571 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if at some point all future numbers end in one of the sets < 1472318600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they can end in only one of the sets. too much spread already. < 1472318698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, i guess, you can somehow get them all into that 33-38 vortex :P < 1472318716 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472318717 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2), (3), (4) are the cycles in Esperanto too, and 8 -> 2, 10 -> 3, 20 -> 5 -> 4 so probably there are infinitely many numbers for each < 1472318819 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try http://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/index.htm < 1472318897 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472318905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 -> 2 -> 4 -> 5, 6 -> 3 -> 5, 7/8/9 -> 4, 10 -> 3 french seems to have only one < 1472318923 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, french only has one cycle < 1472318939 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have two sets of points: n worker and m jobs. i want every job visited by one worker and the sum of the traveled way to be as minimal as possible. anybody knows a way better than n*m? < 1472318942 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472318960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :german also only has one cycle, (4) < 1472319043 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472319208 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I assume n < m? < 1472319221 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<= < 1472319232 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the workers just do nothing < 1472319241 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, < is the tricky part < 1472319243 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472319298 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472319372 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472319671 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my approximation approach is: build an n-partition of the jobs, ?atch each worker with the nearest center < 1472319849 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not even sure if thus is easier or harder than tsp < 1472320007 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, mtsp is a thing < 1472320205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? np < 1472320206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :np? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472320218 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?atch ? < 1472320219 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1472320228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn NP is the complexity class of decisions that are No Problem. < 1472320230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'np': NP is the complexity class of decisions that are No Problem. < 1472320345 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? minpoijjikop < 1472320345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minpoijjikop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472320436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Minpoijjikop bfjoustioppl sdardqwcasf uyvjhyb mipjkpmo. < 1472320438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'minpoijjikop': Minpoijjikop bfjoustioppl sdardqwcasf uyvjhyb mipjkpmo. < 1472320439 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1472320462 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472320537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the first language to have keyboard section harmony. < 1472320557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for that ugly bfjoust loanword. < 1472320567 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hehe < 1472320574 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"keyboard section harmony" < 1472320659 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? p < 1472320659 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472320708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn P is the complexity class of problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'p': P is the complexity class of problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'p': P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320872 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472321172 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: o, tdh < 1472321299 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a computer with more memory < 1472321457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lean NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them. < 1472321458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lean: not found < 1472321462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them. < 1472321464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'np-complete': NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them. < 1472321498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that should cover the important stuff < 1472321980 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad41e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472322152 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472322246 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? co-NP < 1472322247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-NP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472322250 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coNP < 1472322251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coNP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472322258 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BQP < 1472322259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BQP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472322343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn co-NP, invented in Soviet Russia, is the class of decisions for which you are No Problem. < 1472322345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'co-np': co-NP, invented in Soviet Russia, is the class of decisions for which you are No Problem. < 1472322587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? google < 1472322588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem. < 1472322596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1472322604 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits google < 1472322606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1472322631 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472322722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. < 1472322724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'google': Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. < 1472322738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inspired by logreading) < 1472322822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg google < 1472322823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-27 learn Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. \ 2015-12-19 learn Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem. < 1472322889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was from his neural network < 1472322958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, it was scow hth < 1472322990 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/dowg < 1472322991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag "wisdom/$1" < 1472322998 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/doag < 1472322998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1472323014 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :intriguing < 1472323022 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? doag < 1472323025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472323027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the naming scheme keeps proliferating. shachaf made that yesterday. < 1472323043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hog < 1472323044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hog? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472323053 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1472323054 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 7z \ 7za \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ < 1472323063 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472323068 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/???? < 1472323069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/????: No such file or directory < 1472323073 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1472323078 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/???? < 1472323079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/1492 \ bin/2014 \ bin/2015 \ bin/2016 \ bin/2017 \ bin/as86 \ bin/bugs \ bin/calc \ bin/cats \ bin/ciol \ bin/cmds \ bin/ctof \ bin/dice \ bin/doag \ bin/döts \ bin/dowg \ bin/erro \ bin/evil \ bin/exps \ bin/fsck \ bin/ftoc \ bin/good \ bin/grph \ bin/gs2c \ bin/gs2x \ bin/halp \ bin/hoag \ bin/howg \ bin/json \ bin/list \ bin/luac \ bin/maim < 1472323079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rolls eyes
< 1472323086 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1472323097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/???g < 1472323098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/doag \ bin/dowg \ bin/hoag \ bin/howg \ bin/ping \ bin/pong < 1472323106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/??g < 1472323107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hog \ bin/log \ bin/rng < 1472323131 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts what does this do < 1472323132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẅḧäẗ döës ẗḧïs dö < 1472323146 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that was a bit obvious. < 1472323170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ëẍäcẗlÿ ẅḧäẗ ïẗ säÿs ön ẗḧë ẗïn. < 1472323197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test | döts < 1472323198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẗësẗ < 1472323229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2016 < 1472323230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1472323679 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ¿ np < 1472323680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.melborP oN era taht snoisiced fo ssalc ytixelpmoc eht si PN < 1472323686 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guessed as much < 1472323790 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472323914 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472324062 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472324277 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there possible position in chess and/or shogi where a repetition occurs with both sides giving check on every move? < 1472324343 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you require it to be optimal play? < 1472324347 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or merely possible < 1472324394 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely possible in chess < 1472324411 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, wait < 1472324555 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472324813 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472324824 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472325174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possible from any legal sequence of moves from the starting position < 1472325260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1472325261 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 271750Z 28016KT 9999 VCSH SCT034 BKN047 13/09 Q1018 RMK WIND 670FT 29016KT < 1472325483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1472330318 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably zzo38 wants a generalisation of http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess/check.html < 1472330527 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the TIS-100 histograms are nice but is there a way to see the actual records... < 1472330568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472330796 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472330805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's a good question. < 1472330832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could ask it a bit more generally, saying what's the longest sequence of possible half-moves in chess such that each half-move gives check to the opponent < 1472331091 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess/check.html might be relevant (not exactly the same question, but close) < 1472331098 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's plausible that all such sequences must be finite in normal chess < 1472331132 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh actually the statistics (as I see them) are misleading, buh. < 1472331228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: this shows not a cycle, but 38 half-moves of check, but it uses the restriction that it doesn't allow promoted pieces < 1472333036 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If your personality can be neatly assigned into a well-defined category, then you're a Bertrand. If it can't, you're a Russell." ~ @qntm < 1472333232 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that your personality can be nearly assigned into a well-defined category. There are a lot of different ways to do such thing and yet I think still it is not so neatly assigned correctly in any case. < 1472333251 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "human" a well defined category of personality? < 1472333281 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you may not think your brain is a supervillain. but 1) its called Brain and 2) it lives in a skull fortress" < 1472333384 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think "human" is a well defined category of species probably. Of personality I don't know, but I suppose so; still it fails to explain much, other than instinctive stuff and a few others perhaps. < 1472333407 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure "human" is more of a genus than a species, but hey. < 1472333418 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well I don't know biology so well. < 1472333445 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I think the distinction only really matters to dead people < 1472333458 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are any Homo non-sapiens around these days < 1472333469 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I'm misunderstanding < 1472333480 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes, all other human species are dead. < 1472333505 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other hominids around, though. < 1472334977 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472335247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472335910 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1472335920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472338194 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7kxuwbsc4hb2u.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472339626 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized that Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia's leaders in this game are identical white haired blue eyed old men < 1472339787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472339873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom revers < 1472339874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversal//lasrever < 1472339894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? co- < 1472339895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472339918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates it when his intuition suddenly tells him not to add a wisdom.
< 1472339943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or my rsi is acting up. < 1472340457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472340639 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472340720 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I interfere in the Spanish Civil War? < 1472340770 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to remove a possible ally of Hitler, but this might be risky < 1472340873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in real history, there were plenty of communists in it, and they still lost. < 1472340885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu. < 1472341006 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: lol i wonder how many people are actually in the Russell category. it's hard to tell, given that the category is (necessarily) not well-defined < 1472341190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just apply BR's type theory to note that Bertrand and Russell cannot be categories at the first level. < 1472341508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm pretty sure "human" is more of a genus than a species, but hey. <-- http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2600/fc02546.htm < 1472341522 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided to at least ship the good guys weapons and send a small cadre of volunteers to delay the nationalists from taking madrid < 1472341668 0 :Ender13!~Agent13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:b40c:b36:bccd:eef JOIN :#esoteric < 1472341688 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the meantime I'm trying to make France like us enough to interfere too < 1472341854 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472341905 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that game? < 1472341967 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1472341983 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Hearts of Iron < 1472341985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1472342003 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1472342021 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing as Stalin, but trying not to kill everyone who looks at me funny < 1472342086 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the real Stalin almost lost Korolev. he sent fucking Korolev, to gulag! < 1472342116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a wonder that the USSR ever even had a space program < 1472342213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Iim trying to make sure we science the shit out of the Nazis