< 1470009685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, maybe we should start storing Ozone that we can fire into the atmosphere when needed < 1470009935 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sure, it already includes http://oeis.org/A107357 and http://oeis.org/A053169 < 1470009974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, that's the original phrasing of the puzzle. < 1470009990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: But it turns out that Wikipedia is wrong, and it says "universality" instead of "non-universality". < 1470010020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. universality is coNP-complete < 1470010180 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470010214 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470010299 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, I saw that clarification yesterday, thanks! < 1470010389 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470010391 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470010987 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470011585 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470011647 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you pronounce ///? http://esolangs.org/wiki//// < 1470011660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"slashes" < 1470011801 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks < 1470011814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1470011822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Xnuk < 1470011839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Xnuk: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1470012032 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470012577 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470012585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, Goonies never say "die" < 1470012598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They must have a hard time playing DnD with English majors < 1470012670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think English majors are particularly pedantic. < 1470012683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But surely they have trouble playing in German. < 1470012712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned that fact from The Onion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAa8Rf_a_Mo < 1470012878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :de:die is not a homophone of en:die hth < 1470012941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1470012949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you think it's the latter than they never say? < 1470012965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that they speak English and not German, the former seems more likely. < 1470012965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i have no idea what goonies are. < 1470012981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google goonies < 1470012983 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089218/ < 1470012983 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: The Goonies (1985) - IMDb < 1470013043 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. this travel insurance actually has a price per day that isn't an integer number of HUF. you rarely see that nowadays. < 1470013073 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things are rounded to integer HUF, except for very cheap things like per minute prices of mobile phone calls. < 1470013158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUF is what came before HUG? < 1470013180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, 1 HUF < 0.01 USD < 1470013202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even 0.01 USD is too fine-grained for most things. < 1470013273 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that uncommon for currencies to be similarly overly-fine-grained though. < 1470013304 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure, which is why the smallest cash coin is 5 HUF, and most bank transactions and similar are restricted to multiples of 1 HUF, but prices can still be fine grained even though they're usually multiples of 1 HUF for cheap things and multiples of 10 HUF for expensive things. < 1470013310 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 KRW < 0.001 USD, for example. < 1470013331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How fine-grained should stock prices be? < 1470013336 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have prices to high resolution and round for the whole transaction. < 1470013394 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470013399 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, the KRW no longer has 1 KRW coins in circulation... < 1470013400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until 2001, US stock prices were measured in sixteenths of a dollar. < 1470013406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now they're measured in cents. < 1470013437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the finest granularity. < 1470013465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called the tick size, and there are all sorts of trade-offs for deciding what it should be. < 1470013475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems silly to have the same tick size for expensive stocks and cheap stocks, though. < 1470013516 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470013654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, the price of gas (petrol) for cars is shown per liters, and is usually shown as a multiple of 0.001 or 0.01 HUF. The price of household water and sewage in this location is 469.06 HUF per cubic meter. < 1470014279 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470014345 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470014445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1470014970 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470015392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1470015432 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1470015436 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1470015497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I declare the winner of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0 [Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 2.] to be Richard Stallman < 1470016521 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470016579 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470016832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470017522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470017574 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470017575 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3873:b107:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470018208 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470018454 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470018503 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bizarre-proof-to-torment-mathematicians-for-years-to-come/ < 1470018507 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a greater mummy behind khufu... holy fungot I didn't see it... < 1470018508 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: next it unveiled the latest to benefit of any party other than ena also sold more to do the right thing on the sidelines for any period. if you have not had any more. < 1470018511 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, almost like the proof is bad code? < 1470018529 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm still alive! < 1470018530 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for complete information on the first is the pulmonary injury by capacity and fuel to the rate to a policy what policy: " section vii of the bond, the treasurer of each company < 1470018806 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, not alive. got berserk and petrified at the same time. < 1470019307 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: APPEARANCE CHICKEN < 1470020372 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470021820 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Or code written in a programming language that nobody understands except Mochizuki < 1470021853 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think it would be pretty hilarious if this was all an elaborate troll < 1470022357 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470022482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470022849 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are computer proofs written in languages that nobody else understands < 1470022877 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proofs work when you check them, but no one knows why < 1470024099 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3873:b107:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470024887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470025866 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470026063 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470026256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470026336 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470026949 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470027863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470028994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1470029014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is late. < 1470029411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's too easy for alt+5 to slip and become alt+f4==instakill app <-- that's pretty much how my hydra died, except with fn instead of alt. < 1470029449 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, killing the hydra was the goal, right? < 1470029454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and f5 instead of 5, probably. < 1470029460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not quite that way. < 1470029484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: picky. just be happy the goal was accomplished < 1470029499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKANEVER < 1470030014 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You cracking stuff? < 1470030054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only GHC hth < 1470030231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lout < 1470030231 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470030245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lout < 1470030245 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470030250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1470030263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe there was a ^O. < 1470030662 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my Linux system though, ALT+F4 has no special use. (When in text mode, it switches to screen 4, but in X you need CTRL+ALT+F4 to switch to screen 4.) (But I think the default window manager and desktop environment for Ubuntu does use ALT+F4 and some other stuff similar to Windows to make it easier for Windows users, but I have uninstalled those things.) < 1470031035 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470033227 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470034570 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bad idea to watch love live and fly an airplane at the same time < 1470034597 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i crashed into a mountain < 1470035014 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1470037171 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470037174 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1470038115 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooom < 1470038271 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470038292 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470038591 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh crap it happened < 1470038675 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching anime and --oh shit I've actually been to that exact place in tokyo where the character's standing! < 1470038691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: okay, in the end I think membership in coNP is easier than coNP-hardness. (I don't know an NP-complete problem that embeds naturally) < 1470038713 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really weird feeling of deja vu < 1470038780 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you call deja vu induced by a cartoon < 1470038829 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470038897 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"deja toon" < 1470038999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I found an article that has a reduction from 3SAT < 1470039056 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for arbitrary CNFs or is the size of clauses actually used? < 1470039062 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever drew this must have been sketching from the balcony of the McDonalds that overlooks Shinjuku < 1470039123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it'd work for arbitrary CNFs? < 1470039172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm typing on my phone at the train station. Will probably be able to say more later. < 1470039229 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then it may be doing a similar thing to what I've dreamed up. < 1470039230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the coNP argument is probably something like "raise the adjacency matrix to the nth power" < 1470039243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it is < 1470039453 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the current Schlock Mercenary story arc would fit perfectly under "Force Multiplication". Too bad that book title is already taken within the series :P < 1470039490 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to run a game in a way that people can play it all together through telnet. How should i do this? Im thinking bash < 1470039581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what MUDs are for. < 1470039624 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to hae fun by haveing a bunch of people play a single instance of dwarf fortress over telnet < 1470039713 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitch plays Dwarf Fortress? < 1470039723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1470039729 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :And good luck getting that going over telnet... < 1470039742 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putty then < 1470039744 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470039781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could screen or tmux work that way? < 1470039786 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Fortress is a graphical program (even when not using graphical tiles). < 1470039789 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470039796 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has text mode < 1470039802 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S does mac < 1470039821 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1470039824 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1470039837 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since what version? < 1470039842 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change the graphics setting from 2D to TEXT < 1470039851 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, long while < 1470039896 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not mistaking the normal (non-tiles) mode for an actual console-based mode? < 1470039904 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1470039910 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used it over ssh < 1470039955 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i helped develop a discord bot that has a selfupdating (message ediT) emulated terminal, it could display df too < 1470039968 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot hasent been on for a while < 1470039971 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is news to me, then. < 1470039975 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470040000 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how would i broker it using bash, i have ncat (that comes with nmap) if that helps < 1470040117 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, documentation says, "primitive ncurses output". You are correct. < 1470040150 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd probably want to use whatever it is that nethack@alt.org uses, let me see what it's called. < 1470040165 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, single game instance < 1470040173 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im nit running a hoard of df lo, < 1470040176 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you want everyone controlling one instance, right, not just providing it as a service? < 1470040181 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1470040191 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just use screen, then. < 1470040242 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what would i do with the screen? I need to know how to broker it < 1470040263 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure what you mean by broker here. < 1470040291 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be a server, transmit the games data to the users and give the game their input < 1470040346 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're just connecting multiple terminal endpoints to the same program and sending that all the input from all the terminals? < 1470040372 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm lol < 1470040410 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470040537 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just have everyone connect to the same screen session, I suppose. < 1470040597 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i dont know how i should do that in bash, or is there something about screens i dont know < 1470040619 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need to involve bash at all. < 1470040664 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should i use? Node.js and C++ are my main kanguages, am i just looking at this wrong? < 1470040699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470040715 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what part of it you feel requires any programming. < 1470040744 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi hppavilion[1] . < 1470040757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloon < 1470040886 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know a good way to allow multiple people to telnet to a system and use one instance of a prgram, in this case dwaf fortress? < 1470040933 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was wrong with my suggestion? :/ < 1470040979 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really just dont get how im going to USE the screen. < 1470040996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he means "screen", the program. < 1470041019 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, i dont know what to do with it afterwrds < 1470041047 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So people log in and then all connect to the same screen session. Their input is all sent to whatever's running in it, and they all see the output of whatever's running in it. < 1470041062 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem: open server < 1470041093 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you run Dwarf Fortress inside screen, then people log in, and attach to that screen session. < 1470041109 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd personally do it over ssh, but you could use telnet if you wanted to. < 1470041137 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, but then i have to give them access to the system, i only want them to have dwarf fortress < 1470041140 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470041221 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're always going to need to log in to the system, you just need to stop them from running anything other than screen or Dwarf Fortress. < 1470041240 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to stop screen from being able to execute arbitrary commands is a good question, though. < 1470041359 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so, i just want to do something with the output, send it to the users, and get input < 1470041554 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbinding C-a : should be sufficient, I think. < 1470041575 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you'll probably want to unbind some other stuff too so users don't try and do annoying stuff. < 1470041641 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : I personally think that adding screen is a bit of a waste, i dont see where its needes in the input => program => output => repeat loop < 1470041821 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It effectively virtualizes a terminal and allows multiple endpoints to be connected to it. < 1470041838 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, it lets people log in on multiple terminals and see the same thing. < 1470041908 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And send input to it.) < 1470042101 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :last week i was testing stuff and added debug code that dumped a structure to /tmp/izdump < 1470042110 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out that shit is now packaged and shipped -_- < 1470042120 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gg < 1470042135 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like you can actually use screen's builtin acl support to stop users from executing commands. < 1470042198 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.. damn a example script eould help lol, but ok, im following < 1470042215 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :google isn't providing solutions for "unship code" < 1470042223 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1470042510 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a go at one, hold on. < 1470042539 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it brick the devices? no -> push update to the previous release. yes -> cash in your stock in the company and move far away < 1470042578 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's not my fault! that wasn't supposed to end up in prod < 1470042582 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't wanna move away < 1470042599 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "f" finger hurts. I wonder if I should hold a pen between that finger and the left thumb to make sure I'm not typing with it, because typing just makes it hurt more. < 1470042631 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470042685 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could remap f to capslock (and r and v, for good measure.) < 1470042721 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: To be honest I think this will do it: < 1470042721 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :escape '' < 1470042722 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :bind ^d detach < 1470042836 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless ^d does something in Dwarf Fortress; I can't remember. < 1470043413 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf fortress overrides ^d < 1470043528 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick some other keystroke it doesn't use, then (if there are any :p). < 1470043551 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use a prefix like screen normally does, it would make the config longer is all. < 1470044165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470044172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why the hell does the H○ scale convert real-world feet to scale-world millimeters? < 1470044329 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because 16.5 mm is a nice value for rail spacing? < 1470044342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: But is it really? < 1470044358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think all railroad models should be in 87:1 < 1470044361 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo open shell? Hopefully no # moon_ < 1470044371 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :open shell? Hopefully no < 1470044403 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik, but thats sandboxed, and so is shbot, i didnt know what you used < 1470044412 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 87:1 not 1:87? :p < 1470044418 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shbot has a much stricter sandbox < 1470044424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Yes. < 1470044436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Your model has to be larger than the original. < 1470044545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a good xkcdsw would be http://xkcd.com/1294/, but "telescope" becomes "dildo" < 1470044644 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :railroad models should be 1:1 < 1470044905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: All railroad models should be made in 1:89+41i < 1470044951 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol. < 1470045058 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i am okay with that < 1470045091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps model train layouts should be logarithmic? < 1470045168 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:i*pi < 1470045178 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what, just plain out how do you stream a program to multiple users using telnet? < 1470045279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, I was introduced to Never Gonna Give You Up by anything other than 4chan < 1470045330 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy if you don't 4chan < 1470045607 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Normally you don't need to do such a thing, since for most services you'd fork per connection. < 1470045639 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I can't really think of a use case apart for something like this or nethack@alt.org, etc. < 1470045649 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be interested if there are, thoguh. < 1470045654 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1470045669 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im good now < 1470045931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, but the first time I heard it was in the movie "Miracle in Toyworld" or something like that < 1470045950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's permanently associated with that < 1470045991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If HO is supposed to be H0, is there an H1? < 1470046279 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470047677 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470047894 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470049978 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470051395 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470052203 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470053827 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470053881 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470054200 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STABLE CHICKEN < 1470055949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470056137 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470056979 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.151 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470057423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470057888 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:28bc:9d64:51bf:74ef QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470060118 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470060515 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470061233 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470061544 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470062719 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470063358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470063843 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ukhrzazdeqedvvwz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470063844 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470063872 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hxyabtafcailtjpc QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1470063873 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czojatwtkxaoqoob QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470064001 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470064031 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064059 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tapzxtcbphndtmps QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470064695 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064742 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwdploweqaqvroak JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064745 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qruqbindfjykzocr JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064747 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rycdbeuogvbaahqc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064757 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1470065007 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvuoxzqkfgfskyvm JOIN :#esoteric < 1470065107 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1470065951 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1470066086 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? < 1470066168 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. < 1470066295 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :æ ø å you ain't got the æ ø å < 1470066528 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor the äöü < 1470066581 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor аиоуэ < 1470066599 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(greek anyone?) < 1470068235 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1046 < 1470068264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1046: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1470068366 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470069180 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1470069924 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470070059 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470070086 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470070453 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470070580 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470072935 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470073008 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470073063 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.151 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470076698 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470077859 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470079235 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:7d57:692c:73be:29ac JOIN :#esoteric < 1470080015 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470080187 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3cf7:614:846b:e3dd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470080382 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:7d57:692c:73be:29ac QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470080548 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3cf7:614:846b:e3dd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470080642 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081498 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081534 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470081630 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081735 0 :yurichev!~yurichev@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081753 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470081892 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470082026 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470082827 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar katl < 1470082827 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 011911Z 24006KT 10SM -RA FEW020 SCT075 BKN100 BKN250 28/24 A3008 RMK AO2 RAB02 TSE11 TS MOV SE CB DSNT NE & DSNT S-SW-W TCU DSNT N-NE & DSNT SW SHRA DSNT S-SW-W P0000 T02830239 < 1470082829 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f QUIT :Read error: Network is unreachable < 1470082832 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1470082932 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470083785 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LIPZ < 1470083786 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIPZ 011920Z 03009KT CAVOK 24/15 Q1015 NOSIG < 1470083835 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going there on Wednesday < 1470083922 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470084058 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and checking @metar now helps? < 1470084111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And saying "and checking @metar now helps?" helps? < 1470084195 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470084504 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470084514 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I have a friend near there right now < 1470084520 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can't actually read meta < 1470084520 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1470084527 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just makes me feel like I'm doing something < 1470084530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one can read METAR. < 1470084555 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the friend is closer to LIPB anyway < 1470084567 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LIPB < 1470084568 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIPB 011850Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT090 24/14 Q1015 < 1470084584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: All you need to do is look at the two numbers separated by a / < 1470084595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one is temperature. < 1470084604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all I know about METAR. < 1470084622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metar < 1470084629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second number is the avg weight of the pilots in the airport < 1470084632 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470084636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metar is a service that allows nerds to talk about the weather. < 1470084641 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second number is apparently the dew point < 1470084656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1470084660 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second number is the avg weight of the pilots in the airport, also called the dew point < 1470084662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't know what dew point was. < 1470084682 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dew point is apparently the point at which you get dew < 1470084712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebvention//s# w# metar, w# < 1470084719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1470084773 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, are you sure you'd never invent a genetic algorithm with sexual reproduction? < 1470084780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Taneb invented Tanebventions? < 1470084788 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, fairly < 1470084808 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With modern technology, sex is completely unnecessary for algorithms, you see < 1470084813 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470084838 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I've not a clue about genetic programming < 1470084843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well obviously, who else would invent them < 1470084849 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doing a module on it next term) < 1470084857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd be izaberaventions or whatever in that case < 1470084871 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, have you been inventing tanebventions < 1470084881 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1470084885 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there you go < 1470084929 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was planning to < 1470084935 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@5.196.225.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470084937 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it takes a while < 1470084940 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a long project < 1470084953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1470084960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just put the tanebvention in the wisdom entry. < 1470084965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is the one who has to do the hard work. < 1470084982 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the lazy way < 1470085019 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what izabera is planning is to invent something and convince me and everyone else that I was the one who invented it < 1470085039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules were the first Tanebvention, right? < 1470085049 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something three headed dildos ? < 1470085073 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I believe so < 1470085083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that falls outside the purview of Tanebventions. < 1470085122 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I'm no expert but I think three headed dildos involve sex < 1470085175 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's your invention < 1470085182 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make something up with it < 1470085195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Taneb would rather just uninvent it. < 1470085203 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late < 1470085212 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :patent pending < 1470085224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb never invented it in the first place. < 1470085233 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa easy there < 1470085233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1470085235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1470085262 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone who knows the HackEgo magic change that eight to a nine please < 1470085323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: The magic is this: `slwd taneb//s#eight#nine# < 1470085347 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swld taneb//s#eight#nine# < 1470085348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: swld: not found < 1470085351 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU SURE < 1470085363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES HTH < 1470085371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you gotta type it correctly < 1470085371 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1470085374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1470085381 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd taneb//s#eight#nine# < 1470085384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/taneb//Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1470085396 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I haven't invented typing things correctly yet tht < 1470085407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tht < 1470085409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tht? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470085424 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hth but I haven't invented typing things correctly < 1470085448 0 :dleled!5710bce2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.16.188.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470085548 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet < 1470085706 0 :dleled!5710bce2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.16.188.226 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470085969 0 :yurichev!~yurichev@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470086031 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470086065 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1470086339 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon! < 1470086454 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470086778 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087370 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470087582 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087601 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started playing around in MSDOS 6.22 < 1470087632 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470087651 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best OS ever to come out of the house of Microsoft < 1470087670 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope my University OS professor doesn't read this ;-) ) < 1470087716 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol what does he prefer win10? < 1470087717 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087778 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087791 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1470087835 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087840 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But DOS offers almost none of the defining features of an OS, most notably it does not offer any multitasking or isolation of multiple processes or access control. < 1470087858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Windows 10 to MS-DOS 6.22 < 1470087880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That MS botnet is scary. < 1470087949 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I honestly believe that this term is 100% accurate in this context: It is software that phones home automatically and updates itself with whatever code its masters provide, automatically.) < 1470087982 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course Android isn't much different. < 1470088010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most Linux distros on the other hand, are... though perhaps not different enough to matter in practice. < 1470088162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about web software? < 1470088177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All software is becoming web software. < 1470088200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean SaaS? < 1470088213 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"web software" is not a meaningful term to me. < 1470088259 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... Hey, b_jonas, you here? < 1470088275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean software written in JavaScritp and delivered to a web browser. < 1470088286 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible. < 1470088295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being written in JavaScript isn't even that important. < 1470088300 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470088328 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it kind of depends on how good the sandboxing is. < 1470088337 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what you do with it... < 1470088351 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a web online game I have no trouble with. < 1470088385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a web office program that may cease existing tomorrow... that's an entirely different matter. < 1470088394 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really part of the botnet problem in my view < 1470088398 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :more the opposite < 1470088404 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dual, if you like) < 1470088413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the same auto-update issue. < 1470088417 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: W10 is a botnet under those terms imho, it's just hypothetically a desirable one < 1470088426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you start up the software, you fetch a brand new copy from the web server. < 1470088428 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes it does, hence the sandboxing < 1470088445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so run Windows 10 in a VM, I guess? < 1470088461 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which allows me to think of it as an extension of *THEIR* server using some of my own computing resources < 1470088479 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is lots of software that updates the same way -- the reason a botnet is evil is because it does evil things with your computer resources < 1470088489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure Microsoft would like for you to think of Windows the same way. < 1470088515 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, Win 10 in a VM is an option... well... once we find a secure hypervisor. :P < 1470088516 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: MS employee here) < 1470088536 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: the technology is neutral. < 1470088558 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW I'm not qualified to assess if W10 is doing evil -- I have friends who worked on it who said the parts they worked on did not appear to be doing evil < 1470088562 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from a technological perspective there's not enough of a difference that it matters to me. < 1470088578 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible, even likely that there are parts he didn't work on that are evil < 1470088602 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470088666 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and this whole way we're doing software... as indicated above this is not limited to MS or even the commerical world... has ramification that I really don't want to think about. For example, for cryptography. Your crypto software may be secure now, but it can be backdoored without notice.) < 1470088687 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man. I'll indeed so have to buy a new computer in autumn. I love this one and it's served it well, it will probably retire with full honors, but it's just SLOW. < 1470088700 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW I think you should never assume your data is safe because of crypto < 1470088703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, computer. < 1470088714 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will MS still allow me to install my Win 7 copy on another machine? < 1470088720 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can shake your fist at companies like microsoft because we've probably backdoored our crypto implementations in one place or another < 1470088746 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But afaik usually it's humans following bad security precautions that compromise security situations < 1470088746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Install Windows 3.11 and MS-DOS 6.22 < 1470088756 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or will that be the point where I give up on Windows altogether and suffer through the lmited supply of games that work on Linux? < 1470088764 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have them in an emulator < 1470088774 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you seen termbot? that runs ms-dos 6.22 < 1470088774 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your crypto is not particularly important if your super anonymous messages to known targets are sent from the same computer at the same times as your normal tweets < 1470088807 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I started sending tons of messages to ISIS from my personal machine, even if I used magic to guarantee my channel was cryptographically safe, it would probably be evident I was talking to ISIS < 1470088810 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I know... https://xkcd.com/538/ < 1470088818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could also run windows 3.11, but it would be a bit hard to use unless you did some serious preparation, because normally you control windows through the monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and termbot doesn't give you access to those < 1470088828 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: that's what Tor is for. < 1470088830 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the best strategy you can do is not communicate things you don't want found < 1470088835 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh yeah, bring in anonymous third-parties < 1470088852 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously a hostile government could never run its own tor nodes and have them collude < 1470088857 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously this hasn't already happened < 1470088874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Tor, obviously, isn't perfect either, and a very lucrative target for secret services) < 1470088879 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: why'd they pay for their own nodes? they just put malware on existing nodes. < 1470088911 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But we know from the Snowden files that it must, actually, be quite good and be causing the NSA a lot of headaches.) < 1470088926 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't the guy who made bomb threats to get out of tests at Stanford or something get found out because he was the only dude on campus using Tor? < 1470088940 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably wasn't Stanford, but it was some major school for smart people < 1470088973 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be wary of crypto that makes it obvious I'm using crypto, because it means more people would want to snoop on me < 1470089049 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had secret terrorist plans I would probably meet my secret terrorist buddies in person somewhere in the wilderness < 1470089092 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: crypto that makes it obvious that you're using crypto? like connecting to freenode through ssl? < 1470089095 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( because that worked so well in 1984 ) < 1470089095 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'd develop secret terrorist plans I could carry out alone < 1470089109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft has secret terrorist plans? < 1470089118 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Don't tell the press! < 1470089118 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: tell the logs all about them < 1470089125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought Microsoft had secret communist plans. < 1470089132 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't call it "Redmond" for nothing. < 1470089148 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I dunno, SSL's so commonplace that it's probably not seen as a red flag any more < 1470089165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you would know all about red flags. < 1470089185 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: so just use SSL for everything you want to encrypt? < 1470089211 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not make the assumption that SSL is safe < 1470089222 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you try connecting to 76.1.72.128 port 5138? (telnet). im making sure a port works before i do something < 1470089244 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: of course not. it's just a tool. you have to use it correctly. < 1470089266 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'sk inda what I'm getting at -- you can't blame a single party for "I used crypto and my secrets aren't safe" < 1470089279 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you actually want to be safe you shouldn't communicate your secrets < 1470089355 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470089373 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470089939 0 :_miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470089965 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan GG: ... LOOK! a three-headed monkey! < 1470089965 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470090100 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470090108 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470090215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1470090224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1470090231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambek's lemma < 1470090234 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambek's Lemma, invented by Joachim "Taneb" Lambek, states that initial algebras have inverses. < 1470090242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Vaughan Pratt says "the ability to prove Lambek's lemma is a litmus test of whether you can think categorically" < 1470090252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you prove it or just invent it? < 1470090504 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470090557 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is lambek's lemma? < 1470090586 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470090703 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what use is pointless topology? < 1470090721 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless < 1470090752 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470090799 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: from what I just read, the fact that an initial algebra is an isomorphism < 1470090864 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470090880 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphism of? < 1470090894 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1470090898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its domain and codomain. < 1470090899 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an initial algebra? < 1470090927 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something categorical. < 1470090941 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably an initial object in some category? < 1470090948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1470090957 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :which category? < 1470090966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the category of algebras hth < 1470090975 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the category of F-algebras for a functor F, which are maps F(A) -> A. < 1470090975 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it a morphism then? < 1470090981 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh ty < 1470091020 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470091026 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470091036 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470091038 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can still prove Lambek's lemma. But I've seen it before and I don't like category theory. < 1470091073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you like? < 1470091108 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic, algebra, combinatorics < 1470091310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, category theory is just algebra. < 1470091360 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1470091373 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what is A in the above? < 1470091377 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object? < 1470091436 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: in some underlying category, yes. I mean it's an argument to F which is a functor, so there's little choice in the matter. < 1470091452 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a functor maps morphisms too though < 1470091456 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470091559 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I get basic category theory; it's even useful to some extent. But it's a very hard way of thinking for me, and I tend to interpret everything in Set to make sense out of it. < 1470091563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1470091608 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :try poset categories < 1470091691 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories in the sense of thinking of some of maths as talking about morphisms between objects is useful, but it doesn't require too much theory of course. < 1470091713 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does give some useful naming conventions that helps communicate with other mathematicians. < 1470091719 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at the backlog. gamemanj scrolls up. gamemanj scrolls up further. gamemanj is an idiot. YGMP+SLP==???
< 1470091744 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1470091744 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1470091753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: I most certainly did not. < 1470092292 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470092342 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092365 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-36-251.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092520 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092581 0 :powerOfTwo!~powerOfTw@host226.190-225-151.telecom.net.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092639 0 :powerOfTwo!~powerOfTw@host226.190-225-151.telecom.net.ar QUIT :Client Quit < 1470092666 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@108.71.36.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092715 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-36-251.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470092778 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This happens a lot with algebra, not only category theory. There's also a negative effect though, in that when mathematicians explain something with algebraic language, and young mathematicianlings are listening, it can seem quite alien and hard to understand, even if the underlying thought is pretty simple and they could understand it. < 1470092783 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's just a temporary effect. < 1470092811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon, the young mathematicianlings will turn into aliens. < 1470092836 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicianling is an overly complicated word < 1470092857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Are you a mathematicianling? < 1470092924 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470092962 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah. eventually they grow and they themselves will talk nonsense like "Wait, that's too abstract. Let's take a specific example. Say, let A be a self-adjoint operator over a complex space." < 1470092994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :roll your self-adjoint and join the fun < 1470093094 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470093336 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i "Take a positive integer N. No wait, N is too big; take a positive integer k." < 1470093351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for a different joke but I've forgotten it now. < 1470093457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gone up in smoke. < 1470093487 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470093493 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, like that < 1470093624 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470093887 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to make a watchable game of Dwarf Fortress, but, it doesnt like the arrow keys and the escape key etc etc. any help? < 1470093916 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd: ncat -l --keep-open --sh-exec "./df" 5318 < 1470093936 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470093968 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to make a watchable game of Dwarf Fortress, but, it doesnt like the arrow keys and the escape key etc etc. any help? < 1470093970 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1470093972 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1470094189 0 :zgrep!?@? NICK :zvehk < 1470094286 0 :zvehk!?@? NICK :zgrep < 1470094454 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470094574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this joke from mathoverflow is so good < 1470094577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to visit him while he was lying ill at the hospital. I had come in taxi cab number 14 and remarked that it was a rather dull number. "No" he replied, "it is a very interesting number. It's the smallest number expressible as the product of 7 and 2 in two different ways." < 1470094741 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470094914 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.103.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470094989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470095101 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mathwackematics shachaf
< 1470095105 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1470095111 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome byteflame < 1470095118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04byteflame: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1470095368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1470095404 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :byerjan! < 1470095406 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(poutine time!) < 1470095408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-foul < 1470095408 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 1h 30m 43s ago: GG: ... LOOK! a three-headed monkey! < 1470095413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wat? < 1470095422 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bwah ah ah! < 1470095429 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SUGAR CHICKEN < 1470095450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, he left, i was going to make an awful pun :( < 1470095681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e sadly, i've played very few computer games hth < 1470095681 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470095690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which ones twh < 1470095708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's tetris... < 1470095806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :civilization, although i usually chickened out soon after the enemies started appearing. < 1470095872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a number of small mindless games and abstract puzzle games. < 1470095928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of which i've forgot. < 1470096025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i played a couple MUDs, and that's about all of rpg-like things. (excluding a game for Oric-1 called Zodiac, which i never got very far in.) < 1470096046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no first person shooters, ever, afair. < 1470096079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hydra game hth < 1470096082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and palisade hth < 1470096093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thnk that counts as "abstract puzzle" hth < 1470096111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't going to list those individually. < 1470096115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*think < 1470096131 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470096144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about nomic hth < 1470096161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't count that as a computer game. < 1470096189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to argue semantics tdnh < 1470096205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for that schemenomic thing, once. < 1470096213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what nomic is about < 1470096222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...point. < 1470096357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chances of getting deeper into gaming diminished sharply after my hands started aching back in 2003 or thereabouts. < 1470096411 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like there are genres of game that you can play fine even with that < 1470096431 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there are strategy games which require about the same level of mouse use as just web browsing < 1470096494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use a mouse these days, but a trackpad. also, i can ache simply from typing if i do it long enough. < 1470096527 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :trackpad, mouse, if you can click buttons on a screen it works out the same < 1470096555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm just not sure how different they are for the hands. < 1470096633 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470096702 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470096828 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can play text adventures with voice control hth < 1470096854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1470096867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa fizzie < 1470096868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.) < 1470096923 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very silly. < 1470096935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is? < 1470096939 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar corrections are also `welcome hth < 1470096953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telling people to go to Dalnet #esoteric, when it doesn't even exist? < 1470096965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to? < 1470096985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the first we found afair. < 1470096987 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Everything except the parenthetical remark seems fine. < 1470097017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and the grammar of that is atrocious? < 1470097017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: what are you Muumin' for < 1470097021 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@108.71.36.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470097021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that doesn't make sense < 1470097030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we _do_ get the other kind occasionally. < 1470097049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moomins are tg < 1470097052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact we have one here right now, who somehow doesn't leave. < 1470097065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1470097070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e just left. < 1470097083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there might be others. < 1470097088 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter could be something like: "kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa." < 1470097149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd welcome.fi//s/kokeile.*/kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa.)/ < 1470097152 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome.fi//Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa.) < 1470097175 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard because you really would need to inflect the names EFnet and Dalnet, and they're not really very Finnish. So I cheated by making it "in the EFnet or Dalnet network" instead. < 1470097202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Efnetti < 1470097210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*F < 1470097217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you making fun of finland < 1470097220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1470097226 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. EFnetissä. Maybe. < 1470097240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dogs now howl < 1470097266 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470097271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the owls now hdog < 1470097276 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470097279 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For some reason, in Finnish, the channels are definitely "in", not "on".) < 1470097291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't make a tonh of sense hth < 1470097303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :socking < 1470097315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you recommend learning Finnish? < 1470097318 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperbolic dog. < 1470097335 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or no, that'd be dogh. < 1470097363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :arcdog < 1470097381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my arcdog has an arctic problem < 1470097420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION arcs his swatter onto shachaf -----###
< 1470097458 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-187.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470097502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i internet relay cat < 1470097664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shacaf a decaf brand < 1470097698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be decaf < 1470097706 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-187.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470097766 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470097775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ryming purposes hth < 1470097824 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i c wut u did < 1470097849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quhintopia < 1470097867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have permission to mispronounce my name, because I always mispronounce yours. < 1470097878 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :altoug, i tink you meant "for ryming purposes t" t < 1470097886 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i randomly run one of 5 diffrent commands? (bash) < 1470097898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but, but, i've been training on uvular fricatives < 1470097901 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Finnish generally handle the inflection of foreign names, fizzie? < 1470097909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lynn < 1470097920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "badly" ) < 1470097941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear about how unary nfa universality is conp-complete (scow) < 1470097944 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i would never have thought to pronounce shachaf with a uvular fricative < 1470097946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the inflection, not the fricatives) < 1470097947 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm going to < 1470097953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. < 1470097957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the official pronunciation. < 1470097965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes what? < 1470097984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i saw int-e point out that's an equivalent formulation < 1470098008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you could sabotage it by pronouncing the "sh" as one instead < 1470098033 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll voice the "sh" hth < 1470098037 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is conp < 1470098046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CoNP < 1470098049 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470098052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and btw, the stress is apparently on the first syllable, which was opposite of my initial assumption. < 1470098072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your initial assumption was that it's on the other two? < 1470098084 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never thought of emphasizing the second syllable--now i'm going to < 1470098133 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :new unofficial quintopia pronunciation: "zhach AS fuck" < 1470098159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that would be "for ryming purposes t t", i think, since it would break my script. < 1470098165 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me feel better about "schaf" ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schafe ) < 1470098174 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what awful pun didn't you make < 1470098194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean there was a bunch of bad puns anyway < 1470098198 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :My pronunciation advice: say "shachaf-chan" but pronounce "shachaf" all wrong but make the ch in "chan" is a uvular fricative < 1470098220 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!~~~~~ < 1470098222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: We just mangle them in the way that sounds least bad. < 1470098262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: using shuf -n 1 maybe? < 1470098270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as an ingredient.) < 1470098289 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it would likely be "EFnetissä", "Dalnetissa". < 1470098293 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think maybe they were asking about the giant nested if statement, and possible replacements for it? < 1470098309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mantissa, exponent < 1470098318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: oh and -e looks useful too < 1470098331 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if someone is impolite enough to put vowel harmony mismatch already in the original word, we'd probably just get all confused. < 1470098346 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mostly an issue with y.) < 1470098346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -e -n 1 t e s t i n g < 1470098348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1470098366 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the most likely outcome! < 1470098376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` `shuf -e -n 1 'echo hi' 'echo ho'` < 1470098376 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -e -n 1 t e s t i n g < 1470098380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1470098380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1470098382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dälnetissä < 1470098388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: ^ < 1470098396 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kkthx < 1470098418 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in $(seq 1000); do shuf -e -n 1 t e s t i n g; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn < 1470098431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a pun with "pouting" hth < 1470098441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 272 t \ 169 i \ 153 s \ 146 g \ 139 n \ 121 e < 1470098484 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1470098486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!~~~~~ <-- with that, it feels hard not to make the CH a full trill hth < 1470098526 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: go ahead. i do. < 1470098588 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would you be pouting nonsense? < 1470098596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your initial assumption was that it's on the other two? <-- i'd read somewhere that hebrew stress is usually on the last syllable, or something else i garbled into that. < 1470098599 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is too tired to think of anything better than that.
< 1470098631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Hebrew_phonology#Stress hth < 1470098642 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: whence did derogatory adjective "scow" originate? twh < 1470098652 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1470098655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp. < 1470098656 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: scowling, I though < 1470098662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It originated on a scow. < 1470098664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1470098667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Near Los Angeles. < 1470098690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470098692 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1470098694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1470098696 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: by a passenger or crew? < 1470098705 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Passenger. < 1470098708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1470098718 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470098732 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that entry fails to mention the propensity to lie about etymology < 1470098743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : And if someone is impolite enough to put vowel harmony mismatch already in the original word [...] <-- Ørjan feels targeted < 1470098755 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and how did you come to be the only other person in the universe to use it? < 1470098760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: When have I lied about etymology? < 1470098769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm not the only person in the universe to use it! < 1470098774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, oerjan uses it. < 1470098779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being young and impressionable. < 1470098800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other people also use it. < 1470098809 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i doubt he uses it anywhere but here, thereby not perpetrating it to the wider population < 1470098819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i didn't see the if statement, but he did say "random". < 1470098831 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can believe the lispy cow. < 1470098831 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, the ø alone is pretty weird, so. < 1470098835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you speak English anywhere but here? < 1470098845 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh i didn't see random. also you are far behind the present moment? < 1470098870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "scow" has a direct translation to Norwegian or German or any of oerjan's other languages. < 1470098968 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:4749:6dda:fe8e:9625:384e JOIN :#esoteric < 1470098983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh when did dictionary.com add maps? < 1470099005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/scowl < 1470099008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "dictionary" and "map" meant the same thing. < 1470099015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Python, for example. < 1470099022 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: map is something you do with dictionaries hth < 1470099121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map < 1470099122 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1470099125 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t dictionary < 1470099126 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: ‘dictionary’ < 1470099211 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.103.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470099504 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470099804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Do you speak English anywhere but here? <-- i'm only on two chat channels, really, and the other doesn't have much talk. < 1470099821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves to quintopia from the past
< 1470099936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION returns briefly to the present, before running
< 1470100278 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:4749:6dda:fe8e:9625:384e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470100457 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470100526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the section on /r/ in the article shachaf linked is inconsistent on whether israelis prefer velar or uvular.
< 1470100560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey, i linked to the stress section hth < 1470100571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Last I tried I can't distinguish velar and uvular fricatives. < 1470100619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you need an oscilloscope :P < 1470100650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but i was thinking of something i wanted to check < 1470100763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway those are voiced fricatives. < 1470100768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the one in my name is unvoiced. < 1470100778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured. < 1470100920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's been discussed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Modern_Hebrew_phonology#Uvular_Fricative < 1470100975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Perhaps they are supposed to be uvular, but this article is about what they actually are, which is velar in 80% of speakers according to Dekel (2014), who performed a statistical study to answer exactly this question." < 1470100994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually sure what a velar fricative is. < 1470101019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it depends on where in your mouth your tongue is blocking... < 1470101019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what a uvula is. < 1470101029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do I even have a vela? < 1470101056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well g and k are velar stops afaik < 1470101158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :velum=soft palate, supposedly < 1470101186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's a pretty big region, isn't it. < 1470101321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and afaiu the discussion, "back velar" is hard to distinguish from uvular. < 1470101329 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470101646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION posts on the talk page
< 1470101702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether to bring up fixing the error in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language#Decidability_properties
< 1470101708 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470101721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your job hth < 1470101723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a serious error, claiming that it's NP-complete when it's really coNP-complete. < 1470101833 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470101841 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got bored < 1470101851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might have found a solution to the paradox of the stone, but it's pretty fucking stupid (and still can be broken) < 1470101853 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now im running something silly < 1470101864 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1470101887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God becomes more powerful as needed < 1470101898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he creates a really heavy stone that he can't currently lift < 1470101907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then when he needs to, he becomes stronger so he can lift it < 1470101930 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :could he make a stone that he could never lift < 1470101947 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1470101948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No. < 1470101950 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly, just make it a unmoving object < 1470101953 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1470101954 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1470101962 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not actually, depends on view point < 1470101973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait! Just use relativity! < 1470101975 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470101980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could God make an argument so circular that even He couldn't believe it? < 1470101990 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470101995 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm idunno < 1470101996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most of my arguments are elliptical" < 1470102041 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone try telnetting to this silly server a few times: 76.1.72.128 5318 < 1470102251 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470102270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok i didn't find the answer to what i was actually looking for, so i have to ask you: are hebrew t, p, k aspirated or not? < 1470102285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's aspirated? < 1470102320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small h sound at the end, essentially. english has it, except after s. < 1470102334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as does norwegian.) < 1470102391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :germanic languages tend to have aspirated unvoiced plosives, romance languages tend not to afaik. < 1470102408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've read somewhere that semitic languages can have aspiration... < 1470102454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some languages, like ancient greek and standard chinese, distinguish stops _only_ with aspiration, not voicing.) < 1470102472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1470102485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :greek also has voicing - three way distinction. < 1470102695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. < 1470102701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it only at the end of a word or something? < 1470102728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470102741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly before a vowel. < 1470102790 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470102830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirated_consonant suggest testing it by holding your palm in front of your mouth to feel how much air there is. < 1470102835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1470102870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in english, there should be more with "pin" than with "bin".) < 1470102911 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, how do you pronounce "p" unaspirated? < 1470102941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a "b" and just don't voice it, i think... < 1470102984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also contrast "pin" vs. "spin", the latter should be unaspirated. < 1470103071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Aspiration varies with place of articulation. The Spanish voiceless stops /p t k/ have voice-onset times (VOTs) of about 5, 10, and 30 milliseconds, whereas English aspirated /p t k/ have VOTs of about 60, 70, and 80 ms." < 1470103132 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470103418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"French,[5] Standard Dutch,[6] Tamil, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Modern Greek, and Latvian are languages that do not have aspirated consonants." < 1470103490 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470103533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION surprised about dutch
< 1470103714 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470103982 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@5.196.225.175 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh the article used to use "spin" as the example, but someone changed it to "bin". < 1470104284 0 :_miketo!?@? NICK :miketo < 1470104296 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104448 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470104456 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470104506 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104520 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470104571 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104591 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470104644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh the article used to use "spin" as the example, but someone changed it to "bin". < 1470104648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470104661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: *cough* < 1470104716 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1470104728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out, shift-* on my keyboard is just next to up-return < 1470104732 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was just sorting out something with my IRC client < 1470104750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i was thinking you'd got into a bad cycle. < 1470104828 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1470104849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!~wibblewob@yakamo.org$##fixyourconnection < 1470104879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :ent0*!*@*$##fixyourconnection < 1470104895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :Lilly_Goodman!*canaima@* < 1470105065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net$##fixyourconnection < 1470105112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes freenode didn't keep resetting the times on bans
< 1470105129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need elliott here to do a proper cleanup of the list :( < 1470105150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 bans left < 1470105200 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott the only +F? < 1470105244 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :... apparently it's freenode-staff?!? < 1470105280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :$a:`0x00 < 1470105288 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470105339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :$a:silverstream < 1470105370 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470105378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1470105420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: elliott isn't an op, as he left and got deregistered. however, he was very good with cleaning up the ban list :P < 1470105446 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1470105447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i have all the authority, i just don't have the skill. < 1470105483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie should be the founder but apparently freenode has a different policy :( < 1470105502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he's the oldest op nick afaik) < 1470105504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is calling transitions of NFA that match an empty string as epsilon transitions, but a book I have is calling them as lambda transitions instead. Do you know why? < 1470105543 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not. < 1470105557 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for what it's worth, I learned them as epsilon < 1470105568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I never heard "lambda". < 1470105634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell calls it \& < 1470105640 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book that is calling them lambda transitions is from 1988 < 1470105662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I don't believe in books that were written before I was born. < 1470105679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, because freenode resets the times on the ban list, and also adds new ones at either end, i'm pretty confused about which bans are old enough that they're safe to remove. < 1470105690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not generalize NFAs further? < 1470105702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you allow epsilon transitions, why not allow transitions to be labeled with arbitrary strings? < 1470105789 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be possible to do too yes, and then you can easily convert into the one that only allows up to one symbol. < 1470105792 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1470105818 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can label them with arbitrary regexes hth < 1470105846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can do that too and then convert them. < 1470105849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the atoms of the regexes can be NFAs < 1470105863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can add some turtles to taste < 1470106197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DFA can sometimes have many more states than the corresponding NFA. However DFA can also be made minimized. What will it be if a NFA has these restrictions: [1] A state can have no more than one epsilon transition leading out. [2] A state can have no more than one epsilon transition leading in. [3] It is not allowed to form a loop entirely of epsilon transitions. < 1470106260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean, what will it be? < 1470106456 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can eliminate epsilon-transitions though < 1470106473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1470106489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can eliminate arbitrary string transitions, too. < 1470106498 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470106522 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :76.1.72.128, port 5318. i got bored and made this :P might keep it up just for the fun of it < 1470106696 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1470106866 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it is, and I cannot seem to connect either < 1470106922 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470107032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chicken < 1470107038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken is boily af < 1470107047 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you convert into a minimum NFA that has the three restrictions I mentioned? < 1470107111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you like those restrictions? < 1470107167 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A parser I have designed has these restrictions. < 1470107909 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108350 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108441 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470108732 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108959 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470108965 0 :almightynsx2!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108990 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470109334 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c504:d179:2518:b104:83e7:eb44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470109382 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c504:d179:2518:b104:83e7:eb44 QUIT :Client Quit < 1470109383 0 :almightynsx2!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470109510 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470110486 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470110734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470110782 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470110900 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470111408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is Strindberg < 1470111426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is Strindberg < 1470112213 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470113959 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470115124 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470115843 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :[poke-for-poke] < 1470116352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470116402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470117220 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470117627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470117634 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470117663 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470117836 0 :[poke-for-poke]!?@? NICK :[ctcp-for-yellin < 1470117841 0 :[ctcp-for-yellin!?@? NICK :[ctcp-for-yell] < 1470118370 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470118743 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470119256 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120552 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1470120576 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120578 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1470120614 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120617 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1470120634 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120636 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1470120660 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470121093 0 :moon__!?@? 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NICK :[ctcp-for-yell] < 1470121237 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e536:38ec:f41e:10cc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470121239 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Network went crazy < 1470121241 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srry < 1470121299 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can any computer printer support printing in invisible ink as well as black? < 1470121342 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea lol < 1470121376 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to make the FreeUHS "print" program to support an option to tell it what specials (if any) to use to tell it to select or deselect invisible ink, so that if this option is used, then you can print the contents of the hints in invisible ink. < 1470121441 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such a program can be implemented even if no such thing currently exists, because when it does exist, then that option can be used.) < 1470121532 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing that can be put is to cover up the text and then you can scratch it off in order to read it (like some lottery cards). < 1470121581 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470121590 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470121812 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470122030 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what would happen if i fed a ethernet switch 2.5v through the data lines, no ossilation or changes < 1470122290 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470122399 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ctcp-for-yell]: If you're applying 2.5v on a *pair*, rather than individual parts of the pair? Not much. < 1470122403 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470122471 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A similar (but fairly carefully specified) scheme is used in Power over Ethernet. < 1470122504 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would 2.5v ac do damage? < 1470122515 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5V AC would probably ruin the signal. < 1470122544 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :120v ac? < 1470122651 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :120V AC would likely ruin the signal, possibly the cable as well, and might ruin the opto-isolator in the Ethernet switch. < 1470122677 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping it'd start it on fire : < 1470122694 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, neon transformer hooked to it lol < 1470122704 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I *think* the opto-isolator is actually rated for a couple kV?) < 1470122715 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc through the insulation on the cable. < 1470122731 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruin everythin < 1470122735 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470122751 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't even reach the switch, it'd be arcing pretty close to where you hook the cable up. < 1470122812 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to have a good guarantee of destroying a switch you'd need to basically connect all of its contacts up to a Tesla coil or a beefy capacitor bank or something. < 1470122832 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone already said that in ##chat < 1470122922 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the nice things about Ethernet is it's designed to be pretty robust to people screwing it up, from a physical or electrical point-of-view... < 1470122944 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your most likely failure cases are just gonna make the network stop working, not cause lasting damage to equipment on the network. < 1470123273 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470123363 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470123441 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ctcp-for-yell]: if you really want to screw up a network switch, try to make a virus < 1470123467 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably already viruses that pread over ethernet < 1470123482 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on outdated switches a socket into socket cable works sometimes < 1470123526 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll screw up the network it's attached to, not the switch itself (permanently). :) < 1470123579 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik < 1470123594 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :works on stupid it/big server tho < 1470123662 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also works on my home netwrk :P < 1470123857 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!?@? NICK :dontctcp < 1470123924 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470123999 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somewhat unlikely that a mains AC waveform will be decoded as a valid ethernet frame < 1470123999 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470124225 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Yes, but it will likely corrupt any Ethernet frames going over the cable. < 1470124270 0 :dontctcp!?@? NICK :moon__ < 1470124545 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :even at 60 Hz? an ethernet frame is much smaller than 1/60s. < 1470124563 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://devnull-as-a-service.com/ < 1470124566 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They will collide < 1470124684 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1470124704 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Whatever you're doing, it sounds like a bad idea... < 1470124723 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I dunno, I'd be worried about it considering it's adding a 50/60 Hz 120V waveform to a 2.5V AC signal. < 1470124740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470124757 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That said it probably shouldn't do much more than be noise. < 1470124819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.name.tld: the domain of the tribush < 1470124865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, this is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush is _not_ a redirect < 1470124892 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you expect it to redirect? < 1470124939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Well, "Jeb" isn't Jeb Bush's name < 1470124946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeb = John Ellis Bush < 1470124962 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he should change it < 1470124967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1470124972 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says so < 1470125593 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebush < 1470125616 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :je suis bush < 1470125632 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...somehow sounds like ambush, so I've immediately discarded the idea < 1470125708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: iirc wikipedia policy is to usually name articles what most people call the subject. < 1470125805 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump <- why is this not called big fat racist? < 1470126144 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it worse to be a big fat racist, or to be a miserable failure?) < 1470126510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Trump isn't yet qualified as a miserable failure, because he is yet to be president < 1470126651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether Trump's wikipedia article (see: http://loser.com/) is biased < 1470126657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like it is, but then again, I'm biased < 1470126677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trump is a strong proponent of law and order. He has suggested a temporary suspension of immigration to the United States from nations having a "proven history" of terrorism against the U.S. until more precise vetting techniques can be put in place to screen out potential terrorists; he also believes that the quick defeat of ISIS is mandatory." < 1470126692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little incorrect, because it's not so much nations with that history as it is muslims < 1470126751 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not they have that history < 1470128829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the ratio of illegitimate births in comparison to the number of total births is high, the number of mustaches within the population drops < 1470128831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1470128880 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470129189 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they get killed by husbands < 1470129543 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470129639 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470129865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is mostly for the logs: my vacation to Sweden and Norway starts on 2016-08-05 and ends on 2016-08-17, I'll be barely available during that time. I probably won't be on the internet, or only a little. I might not even be reading email much. For urgent problems, try phone call and SMS, or call my family. < 1470129909 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just send you an owl like every normal person < 1470129967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: How can I reach your family? < 1470130025 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470130196 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :creep < 1470130258 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470130262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think that's justified? < 1470130498 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you're a co-worker or family or other person who should know, ask me privately and I can give email and phone number of them < 1470130516 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470130525 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you might already know < 1470130526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I didn't realize those folks were in here. < 1470130536 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470130577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470130593 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't, probably < 1470130604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you're here, then you probably won't want to reach me for anything urgent < 1470130621 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to tell anything for sure, especially about people reading a public log < 1470130651 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, if you want to meet me, and ask nicely in private, I can probably give my phone number (even if not my family's) < 1470130710 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470130825 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you, it's probably not that hard to find a contact for my family on the internet, since some of them has the same last name as me) < 1470130838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've forgotten your last name. < 1470130842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's somewhere in the logs. < 1470130869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, and also on the Internet. < 1470130876 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470130931 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the internet, yes < 1470130983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470133691 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470134768 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably set up a pager for urgent esolangs.org matters. < 1470135465 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened this time? < 1470135509 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, just musing. < 1470135526 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inspired by b_jonas' announcement above. < 1470135590 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: enjoy your vacation < 1470135941 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470136052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should HireFly to handle the pages < 1470136762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470137017 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Faraday cage news... fun. < 1470137048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (cd wisdom; grep -ri faraday .) < 1470137073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470137177 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grep -ri cage wisdom < 1470137223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: invalid option -- ' ' \ Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... \ Try 'grep --help' for more information. < 1470137234 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ``? < 1470137238 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :``grep -ri cage wisdom < 1470137245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `grep: not found < 1470137247 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: you are being very slow < 1470137261 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -ri cage wisdom < 1470137288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/boxmodel:boxmodel is how we figure out how big Taneb's cage is going to be. < 1470137345 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Taneb's cage"? < 1470137367 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure people like cages. IDK. Is Taneb a cage collector? < 1470137379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is to to protect Taneb or to protect the other people? < 1470137447 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously to protect Taneb. If we had to protect the other people, well, < 1470137451 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be impossible anyway. < 1470137457 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1470137463 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously Taneb's cage is a tanebvention < 1470137477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1470137491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1470137496 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to somehow protect people from the BBC. < 1470137497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1470137524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tanebventions: linguistics//Linguistic tanebventions include [...] < 1470137535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tanebventions: linguistics» < 1470137562 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the common comma < 1470137569 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now falling out of style) < 1470137590 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: huh? < 1470137601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: linguistics < 1470137605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/Linguistic tanebventions include [...] < 1470137611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470137681 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470137702 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1470137705 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470137718 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1470137732 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does learn/le\rn work? < 1470137736 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1470137740 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470137740 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn and le/rn < 1470137766 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Normally) < 1470137767 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's le//rn as well < 1470137783 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :was le//rn meant to be used instead? < 1470137788 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's magical) < 1470137797 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: maybe! < 1470137825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about le///rn < 1470137839 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/slashlearn < 1470137850 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or le/s/ignorance/truth/g/rn < 1470137853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb «$key»" < 1470137913 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure you mean strength < 1470138097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old musing at https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html from 2002 is still fucking completely true. < 1470138213 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470138213 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470138266 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have you seen http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2900/fv02843.htm? < 1470138342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"PANICKED CHICKEN" < 1470138342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470138351 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. I'm not a chicken and I don't look like a chicken >_>'... <_<;... < 1470138361 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a sane man! < 1470138382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1470138385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. < 1470138387 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-/ < 1470138407 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sarlacc < 1470138409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarlacc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470138486 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the old version is still there in the PDF hth < 1470138487 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many other people out there prefer the canine version of FreeFall to the colorized one. < 1470138528 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"canine version of FreeFall"??? < 1470138548 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ` < 1470138550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` is the prefix to greatness. < 1470138551 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: alluding to lack of color vision. < 1470138554 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `` < 1470138556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​``? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470138562 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1470138566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1470138571 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. < 1470138583 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cat < 1470138586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/cat < 1470138590 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that cat < 1470138594 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ` < 1470138594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/` < 1470138609 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1470138610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1470138625 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rnooodl < 1470138626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470138634 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rnooodl < 1470138647 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1470138649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1470138653 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1470138654 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noodle < 1470138656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodle < 1470138664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodle < 1470138664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470138665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooodle < 1470138675 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1470138680 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1470138685 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread the pipe as a \ < 1470138764 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo noooooodle < 1470138766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooodle < 1470138769 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1470139069 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodle < 1470139071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1470139389 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( s/ancestor/creator/ ) < 1470139440 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Taneb created Taneb )
< 1470139472 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other people < 1470139608 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :Refrigerator | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1470140609 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GLOVED CHICKEN < 1470141157 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pokemon < 1470141174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket. < 1470141258 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? p-speed < 1470141259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p-speed? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142253 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mario < 1470142256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mario is a classic PSPACE-complete problem invented by Nintendo. < 1470142261 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pspace < 1470142262 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pspace? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142270 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pspace-complete < 1470142274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pspace-complete? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142278 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? completionist < 1470142279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completionist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142281 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? complete < 1470142283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142285 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? completion < 1470142287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142288 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pocket < 1470142290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pocket? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142292 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nintendo < 1470142293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nintendo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142299 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1470142303 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? problem < 1470142304 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142308 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solution < 1470142309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solution? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142312 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solvent < 1470142313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solvent? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142317 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monster < 1470142318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monster? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142321 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stops spamming
< 1470142594 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? do not put the baby < 1470142595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not put the baby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142599 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? baby < 1470142600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :baby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142603 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? babies < 1470142604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142778 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470142918 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470144863 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wee I have an OEIS wiki account... < 1470144871 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now what shall I do with it < 1470145413 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wiki < 1470145416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1470145422 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oeis < 1470145423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oeis? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470145435 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google oeis < 1470145436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://oeis.org/ < 1470145499 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that < 1470145502 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1470145559 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I want a new terminal emulator < 1470145575 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt is okay but configuring it is literally the worst < 1470145611 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: what? what's so hard in configuring it? I just have a script that starts it with the right command-line arguments and it works that way < 1470145629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for that one mysterious bug that took days to debug, but that was ages ago) < 1470145908 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: setting e.g. the font requires arcane invocations in .Xresources < 1470145914 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it *sucks* at fonts < 1470145939 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't render the font I like correctly at the size I like < 1470145951 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in general it sucks at picking font sizes < 1470146130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: no, I don't need to put anything in X resources < 1470146143 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike with xterm, I can give ANY setting in the command line for urxvt < 1470146150 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or any setting in xresources if you prefer that) < 1470146192 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put everything in the command line, but putting everything in xresources and perhaps just putting a -name in the command line to choose from multiple configs could work just as well < 1470146266 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough, still doesn't solve the problem that a) the configs are arcane b) font config just doesn't work period < 1470146290 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: how does it 'not work'? < 1470146326 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :feliks: with the font I'm using for instance < 1470146337 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :height 12 pixels is the same as height 13 pixels, which is too small < 1470146347 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :height 14 pixels is good, but underscores don't render < 1470146353 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :height 15 pixels is too big < 1470146380 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use for font rendering? < 1470146389 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt... < 1470146412 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean systems wide. you're not into infinality are you? < 1470146431 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing nothing special < 1470146456 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :what font are you using then? < 1470146461 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Droid Sans Mono < 1470146488 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence :) < 1470146511 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does your .Xresources/.Xdefaults line look like? < 1470146576 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try: < 1470146585 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :URxvt.font: xft:Droid Sans Mono:pixelsize=13:antialias=true:hinting=true < 1470146646 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dynamic reconfiguration of settings is the *worst* < 1470146662 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's even smaller O_o < 1470146709 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I set it to 14, it's back to the correct size but underscores are still invisible < 1470146736 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is that what you wanted? < 1470146739 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470146749 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the size it's currently at with underscores actually rendering < 1470146755 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :which appears to be too much to ask < 1470146808 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also consider the fact that the only way to dynamically change a setting, near as I can tell, is to bind a keyboard shortcut to a command to do so to be a major anti-feature < 1470146818 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470146877 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have a look at your freetype config < 1470146930 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1470146935 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I could switch to a better terminal emulator? < 1470146996 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever floats your boat < 1470147060 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to mess around with ridiculous arcane configs for hours trying to solve what is a super easy problem in other terminal emulators < 1470147436 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp meh < 1470147439 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (flags == O_TMPFILE) write(1, "TEMP!!!", 7); < 1470147441 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : if ((fd = open(template, flags | O_RDWR | O_CREAT | O_EXCL, 0600)) != -1) return fd; < 1470147452 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :these two lines produce this in strace < 1470147455 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write(1, "TEMP!!!", 7TEMP!!!) = 7 < 1470147456 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :open("/tmp/hYnyMH", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_DIRECTORY|O_TMPFILE, 0600) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) < 1470147476 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is O_DIRECTORY there? < 1470148034 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, the pathname must specify a directory < 1470148040 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess glibc is adding that < 1470148148 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470148392 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470148705 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the closed fibonacci in haskell? < 1470148733 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1..] -- ?? < 1470148735 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,276... < 1470148740 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, not that < 1470148760 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1470148790 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by closed? < 1470148815 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in: working as anonymous function < 1470148845 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without fix perfectly < 1470148919 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think I know the one... < 1470148980 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470149006 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just can't get it < 1470149011 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh, this is annoying me < 1470149098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:) . scanl (+) 1) < 1470149099 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1470149109 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\(a, b) -> (b, a+b)) (0, 1) < 1470149111 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(0,1),(1,1),(1,2),(2,3),(3,5),(5,8),(8,13),(13,21),(21,34),(34,55),(55,89),... < 1470149139 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I invented that one, but at the very least I discovered it independently :P) < 1470149213 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potato < 1470149216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potatoe < 1470149223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470149223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470149267 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work without fix? < 1470149284 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate is kinda lame < 1470149315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if I should put the entry to potato or to potatoes < 1470149353 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, follow your heart < 1470149410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn potatoes/You are not allowed to take potatoes to Norway without a special permit. < 1470149415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «potatoes» < 1470149627 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470149740 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470149754 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> read . take n . drop (n*(n-1)+1) . show $ 1000^n^2 `div` (100^n - 10^n - 1) :: Int) [1..] < 1470149756 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,1771... < 1470149833 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ouch. < 1470149966 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :but take and drop are typically defined using fix... < 1470149972 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> 1000^n^2 `div` (100^n - 10^n - 1) `div` 100^n^2 `mod` 10^n) [1..] < 1470149973 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1470150112 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1470150116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470150134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/tan*:* < 1470150139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: linguistics wisdom/tanebventions: math < 1470150165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xk3d+hoverboard < 1470150167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/tan*:*s < 1470150170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470150252 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my revert earlier failed) < 1470150283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ;-; < 1470150550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION casually awaits OSX Housecat
< 1470150772 0 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470150873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470151067 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RAR < 1470151068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAR? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470151115 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd write "`learn RAR is a legal headache waiting to happen for whoever has to embed support for it into their application due to an obscure 'tradition' of MMD model makers" but that wouldn't really be in the spirit of wisdom. < 1470151151 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Zzzz... < 1470151156 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :` cat canary # eep, a puddytat < 1470151158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1470151169 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat canary < 1470151169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470151194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't know why it's empty. < 1470151243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la canary < 1470151245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Aug 2 14:02 canary < 1470151289 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470151359 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n ribbit > canary < 1470151362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470151550 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/ae8c2e353600/canary may be the explanation < 1470153037 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e536:38ec:f41e:10cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ":)" < 1470153038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​":)" < 1470153682 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470153733 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470154027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! I got an answer to my question from more than a week ago < 1470154030 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was whiskey < 1470154094 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost a month ago, actually < 1470154117 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like a useful bit of information < 1470154134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot) < 1470154323 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I asked what drink Faye bought, because it's unclear from http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3257 and the previous few strips < 1470154386 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I think I would've known that. < 1470154404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably in the logs < 1470154410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone gave guesses I think < 1470154418 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check how accurate they were and who won < 1470154515 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.07.05 < 1470154627 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: okay I didn't know... I just assumed by color. < 1470154673 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from the context it had to be something strong < 1470154753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the regular pentagon doing? < 1470154770 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I didn't think much about it recently < 1470154780 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to prepare for the vacation, which takes most of my remaining time < 1470154789 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(together with work and other usual stuff) < 1470154801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm just asking because I brought up that game the same say as you asked the question about QC < 1470154802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I found out that you can't take potatoes to Norway < 1470154827 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and you're recommended to take a passport, which is less surprising) < 1470154939 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, today's 5th panel would be... "That didn't occur to me, please hold the fort while I take care of those bastards." < 1470158449 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470158456 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470158504 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470159062 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470159949 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470160041 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn nundrum/A nundrum is the categorical dual of a conundrum: a problem whose solution is useless. < 1470160045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «nundrum» < 1470162014 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470163780 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ec6c:cd7a:d719:6735 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470165284 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470165316 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ec6c:cd7a:d719:6735 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470165688 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470165965 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad5b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470166192 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470166620 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1470167041 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470168015 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470168084 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3875:fd4b:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470168533 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470168999 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3875:fd4b:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470170046 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170265 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170315 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470170473 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470170572 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170610 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170772 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470172131 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470172650 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470172766 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470172880 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470172889 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1470172909 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I brought up my huge bag from the basement so I can pack in it for travel < 1470172919 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just some dust or paint on it < 1470172929 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the light it turns out there's actually MOLD GROWING ON IT < 1470173433 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1470173643 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470173915 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: buy a new suitcase < 1470173932 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dispose of the old one by fire < 1470174073 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad5b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy new mold. That one has a bag on it. Eww. < 1470174236 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could grow because the basement has barely any air circulation < 1470174431 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does traffic change orientation in the chunnel < 1470174449 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a helix that switches the left and the right? < 1470174479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :driving on the left side of the road makes no sense < 1470174488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither does writing from the left side of the page < 1470174524 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer writing downward < 1470174545 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there pathfinder nerds in here? < 1470174557 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the space probe? < 1470174559 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the other channel the other day I was talking about the old puzzle of why mirrors flip things left-to-right. < 1470174576 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the role playing game system < 1470174591 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they flip things front to back, not left to right? < 1470174602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That answer is correct but incomplete. < 1470174646 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your mirror self writes with the opposite hand < 1470174658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only on opposite day. < 1470174673 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I dunno, but I also don't understand why some mirrors zoom and distract your face. people keep using those, but those are confusing and I hate them. < 1470174686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use only non-zooming flat mirrors which don't distort < 1470174686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean distort? < 1470174689 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :distort, yes < 1470174730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470174737 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's for magnifying the blemishes on your face and allowing you to obsess oover them < 1470174747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind distorting mirrors. < 1470174754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My face is already distorted in the opposite way. < 1470174755 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the bathroom I have two cupboards with mirror on the door, so basically I have two movable mirrors that let me look at even the back of my face, even without flipping left and right, < 1470174763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they're the only way to see myself as I truly am. < 1470174771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I have a handheld mirror for when it helps. < 1470174778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never look at mirrors. < 1470174786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't get photographed. < 1470174802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't look *at* the mirror (except when cleaning it). I look *through* it to my face or body or clothes. < 1470175124 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470175804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470175915 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470176289 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: do you remember how you connected your bot to DOS 6.22? < 1470176297 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad5b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1470176301 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470176305 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to write a experiement that connects to DOS 6.22 :P < 1470176310 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: sure < 1470176313 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using the virtualbox Serial < 1470176330 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't start it up now, but I can answer questions < 1470176334 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1470176364 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd you connect it to the Bot, and what language (the language is just so i can judge how hard it would be in js, which im using) < 1470176433 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I connect to the virtual machine's serial connection, which DOS lets you use as the terminal for all programs that access stdin and stdout. < 1470176481 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bochs emulator exposes this serial terminal by connecting it to... I don't quite remember, probably the master side of a pty terminal? < 1470176493 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how did you set up the serial connection? i know that DOS can use ctty to connect to COM < 1470176551 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I used the ctty command to redirect stdin and stdout and stderr there, and I used a command-line program from norton utilities to set the parameters of the serial connection from DOS, although I think you can also use DOS's MODE COM command for that < 1470176579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mode matters only partly, because I think bochs actually lets data through it faster than a real serial terminal hardware would permit. < 1470176600 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the mode might actually be mostly ignored, except perhaps the number of bits per character. < 1470176638 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see http://bochs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/topper.pl?name=New+Bochs+Documentation&url=http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook < 1470176645 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using virtualbox >_> < 1470176651 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1470176655 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill figure it out eventually < 1470176658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which mode I used, the socket or the pty < 1470176663 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the socket, that's easier to set up < 1470176674 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I think virtualbox can also expose the serial terminal to you somehow < 1470176724 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I must have used the pty mode < 1470176876 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, checking the source code, it turns out I actually used the socket mode < 1470176936 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, virtualbox doesnt like me with sockets < 1470176971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't take this as good practice < 1470176979 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my script is old and half-broken anyway < 1470176981 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1470176982 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470176992 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were to want something like this seriously, then I'd have to rewrite the whole thing properly < 1470176999 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the port im using is closed, to prevent possible, well, unmonitered dos invasions :P < 1470177028 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470177131 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470177183 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470177299 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1470177547 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470177665 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470179320 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470179411 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470179823 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: a single DOS image would work on multiple platforms for bochs, right? < 1470179839 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, can i have a copy of your DOS image? im too lazy to make one on windows :P < 1470180035 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: what do you mean multiple platforms? < 1470180079 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't give you the whole DOS image, it has a whole lot of various software with unclear copyright status. I can give you parts of it if you want. < 1470180082 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470180118 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only need the boot < 1470180120 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470180125 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easier < 1470180145 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait dont i need a config too? lol, ill adjust it as needed < 1470180186 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see < 1470180235 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, why is the word 'Refrigerator' in the topic? < 1470180277 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470180289 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: please wait a minute < 1470180293 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or five minutes < 1470180315 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470180323 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can wait all day :P < 1470180382 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470180702 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470180775 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: can you give an email address (in private message) I can send it to? < 1470180797 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll send you my fancy full-featured dos boot floppy, which I used a lot < 1470180859 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still has a lot of software with unclear copyright status (including some of norton utilities and norton commander, some of turbo pascal, some of DOS itself, etc), but it's at least less than the whole image < 1470180868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon__, wellob_jellonas. < 1470180882 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone pops up to cause issues, i can remove it < 1470180893 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity it doesn't have the one useful utility on the image of which the copyright status is clear, my DOS version of the joe editor, whcih I can give separately if you want < 1470180894 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously (; < 1470180912 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please do :P < 1470181438 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470181592 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470181621 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pc decided to die on me < 1470181633 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1470181690 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470182097 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: im impatient, is it uploading? < 1470182164 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: sending it now < 1470182168 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just writing an editor < 1470182170 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1470182173 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a description < 1470182181 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need the joe-editor, I can send that separately < 1470182190 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's hard to use because my config file for DOS is crap < 1470182259 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for noninteractive, thats my big question (Yup, doing a thing) < 1470182272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470182285 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: not alone, you'll need more of DOS to set up that < 1470182291 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: like, you need ctty probably < 1470182296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this mostly has interactive utilities < 1470182319 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt DOS have ctty by default? < 1470182362 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why did you never writeprotect the boot drive? < 1470182371 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on your bot < 1470182379 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: so that you can tinker with it < 1470182380 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember we formatted C:\? < 1470182383 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can restore it easily < 1470182399 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, the whole purpose of the bot was to be a sandbox you can break < 1470182405 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough < 1470182406 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470182412 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even rewrite autoexec so it does something different next time you boot, or boot linux < 1470182426 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, you could just boot linux from a user disk with a command after booting < 1470182429 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't really need that < 1470182431 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this way is better < 1470182492 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470182570 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, is it possible to use the DLX image bochs comes with over the serial port? < 1470182948 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd seriously like the compilers too you know :P, could that come as one last package? < 1470182960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's DLX? < 1470182984 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extremely minimal linux, comes with bochs (at least it did for me) < 1470183009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use linux from serial console much better than dos < 1470183033 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik, how would i do that with DLX tho? :P < 1470183058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of dos programs use the console and keyboard directly (even for just speed, when they wouldn't need to strictly speaking), but linux programs don't do that, they work fine in a virtual terminal that you control from serial terminal < 1470183071 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DLX linux is the bochs demo < 1470183147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ask the linux guys. you probably have to make init spawn gettys on the serial terminal, do some config, and optionally also put the console (boot time and later debug messages and stdio for early userland boot script stuff) to the serial terminal, < 1470183156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and optionally put the console for the boot loader to serial terminal. < 1470183258 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470183295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470183411 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I'm unlikely to send you the whole turbo pascal and borland C distributions, or all of dos or its installer, or all of norton utilities or its installer, or all of norton commander or its installer, or the windows or winword or excel installers. I have them, but I probably won't distribute them. < 1470183415 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get them from somewhere else. < 1470183420 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470183431 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can find the turbo pascal and borland C somewhere on the internet < 1470183445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding hungarian version of excel 5 might be more difficult < 1470183572 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470183628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stuff isn't even big. I have all the dos stuff on a one gigabyte large image of which about 25% is free space, and it includes all the above and more, and is quite close to what I had on my first computer back when I had 2 decimal gigabytes of hard disk, \ < 1470183664 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used to be able to find all that stuff on abandonware sites no problem. Well, maybe not the Hungarian Excel. < 1470183669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omitting the linux install on a 850 megabyte partition (to which I had to install and uninstall programs to make them fit because I didn't know what I could safely remove), and omitting the minimal windows 95 install that's on a 50 megabyte sized compressed partition and boots from a floppy. I had no easy way to backup at that point, because hdd or < 1470183669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd burners were expensive. < 1470183701 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically all my useful dos stuff is about 750 megabytes, including installers and games, < 1470183725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's a few hundred megabytes (mostly some games) I've lost permanently from a hard disk failure earlier. < 1470183847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of small old software in there < 1470183872 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://stackoverflow.com/questions/711770/fast-implementation-of-rolling-hash am i reading this correctly? they say to compute hash1 = [0]*base^(n-1) + [1]*base^(n-2) + ... + [n-1] but they always multiply by the same number? < 1470183916 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't sure because 12 people thought it's correct
< 1470183921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep a 'dos' directory that I had on a computer, it's full of random silly little programs from the era where I went "well C:\DOS is in PATH so I'll just stick stuff there". < 1470183942 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's one of the things I cleaned up properly back on dos < 1470183955 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a C:\PATH directory for all the miscellania I run < 1470184033 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never managed. < 1470184064 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes no sense, because I did set PATH. < 1470184082 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm pretty sure this autoexec.bat I'm looking at is not mine. < 1470184117 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, huh. Maybe it is. < 1470184141 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470184146 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the path contains C:\PATH;C:\DOS;C:\NC;C:\NU;C:\WINDOWS;C:\BC\BIN;C:\TP\BIN;C:\NAV < 1470184153 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it varied a bit, but that's basically it < 1470184156 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember some things (like these goto %config% target labels), but some of them seem really off. < 1470184197 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This PATH contains C:\BC45\BIN;C:\IEXPLORE;C:\ANIPAINT;C:\CPQDOS;C:\;C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\MOUSE;C:\SB16;C:\PGP;C:\SE;C:\MCAFEE;C:\PMAIL;c:\cdtsr but I'm... a bit suspicious. < 1470184232 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1470184256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what all that stuff even is.) < 1470184324 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember using 4dos a lot. < 1470184346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember borland turbo-c < 1470184349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was tg < 1470184354 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\PATH contains the joe editor, mouse, the more frequently used compressors (pkzip, pkunzip, arj, rar), setup.bat that invokes c:\windows\setup because otherwise c:\dos\setup (which is useless) would shadow it, and a few other things < 1470184367 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470184459 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: does the amount of Cylinders Heads and Sectors matter for the DOS img? i bet it does < 1470184504 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: it sort of might matter. but you can set it to any sane amount. < 1470184510 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I'm not sure it matters < 1470184515 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it matters only for fdisk basically < 1470184520 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything else uses lba < 1470184536 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdisk just makes sure to write the partition table to cylinder boundary to make it compatible with old stuff < 1470184548 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not really sure < 1470184557 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :set it sanely and then you can't have a problem < 1470184573 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically just set it to 63,255 and as many cylinders as completely fit) < 1470184586 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make sure the bios (emulator) and the partition table agree in them < 1470184597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470184624 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its complaining it cant open the drive image, wtf? < 1470184624 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best way for that is to erase the disk to all zeros (not only the partition table, but where each boot sector goes) and then create them with fdisk and format < 1470184655 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i get for using it on windows *shrug* < 1470184659 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that dos (including the format program) is stupid, and will believe some values in the mbr AND the old boot sector blindly, which is why you should zero the boot sector before formatting a drive < 1470184662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdisk doesn't zero it < 1470184669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is old dos lore) < 1470184716 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so start from a clean all zeros hard disk image, boot from boot floppy, partition hard disk with DOS fdisk, reboot, boot from boot floppy, use DOS format command < 1470184723 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470184723 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's safe to copy data in there < 1470184794 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its unable to find the disk when i have the path everything and all that, its complaining < 1470184795 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1470184808 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget to tell fdisk to make the mbr bootable (set boot partition) < 1470184832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND to make the file system bootable by formatting it with format /s or with the DOS sys command after it's formatted ( < 1470184833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470184848 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not loading the floppy for some odd reason < 1470184892 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NVM there it goes < 1470184921 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470184936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1470184941 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470184968 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and virtualbox uses some custom disk format for hard disk, not raw hard disk image, so either you have to create the hard disk image with virtualbox, or use some arcane incantations to virtual box to turn a raw image to its favourite format < 1470184978 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1470184988 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using bochs, i had it installed, but didnt like it < 1470184995 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i got it working < 1470184997 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470185002 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try raw qemu too < 1470185031 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get what discs are avaliable? < 1470185081 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: um, what do you mean? < 1470185089 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drives < 1470185100 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What drives are avaliable < 1470185255 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, from what? dos? bochs? < 1470185260 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside? inside? < 1470185288 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS < 1470185300 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Srry about being uninformative :P < 1470185366 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the fdisk utility, it's interactive and console-based (there's a non-interactive read-only more), it tells how many hard disks the bios sees and how many partitions dos sees on them < 1470185389 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately the de and ndd programs from norton utilities also tell how many physical disks you have < 1470185492 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then dos sees the partitions as logical disks, denoted by C:, D:, etc, but those letters also include ram drives and cd drives and possibly other, which programs can access logical sector-based through dos, or the file system on them if there's one < 1470185506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :format formats the logical disks < 1470185537 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cds work differently though < 1470185540 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still get a drive letter < 1470185615 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and lba sectors are numbered from 1, there's no sector 0 < 1470185622 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one confuses the hell out of me all the time < 1470185625 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful with it < 1470185628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sector 1 is the boot sector < 1470185640 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sector number 0 is not used for arcane historical reasons < 1470185823 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470185831 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1470185833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno how this works < 1470185836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1470185865 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470185968 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tip: PowerISO is cancer, dont even peek like it did, i opened installer, and it was offering me random software < 1470185982 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deleted\ < 1470186196 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my joe-editor for dos is about 260 kilobytes in size (not copressed) it seems, including the executable and config file (that's all you need to run) but not sources < 1470186227 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: tell use how you fare with this < 1470186244 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470186273 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Virtualbox finally got that emulator bug fixed, it can now run that one version of the linux kernal that it used to cause a race on < 1470186309 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: as in, tell me later if you manage to get it working, or where you're stuck < 1470186314 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470186864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470187357 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470187632 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470188223 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470188692 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470189112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470189346 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470189801 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470189809 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas? < 1470189819 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas? < 1470189847 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph, anyone know how to prevent people from formating C:\ on MS DOS 6.22? < 1470190033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :handcuffs hth < 1470190055 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, this is in bochs if it help < 1470190097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't because i have no clue hth < 1470190152 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470190365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: linguistics < 1470190380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: linguistics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470190494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastfiles < 1470190501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nundrum < 1470191159 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470191411 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1470191413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1470191428 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1470191429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1470191441 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds well-rounded. < 1470191447 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GALLERY CHICKEN < 1470192093 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470192251 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470193331 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470193385 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470193572 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470193762 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470194748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470194761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get the phrase "ugly as sin" < 1470194771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, trig functions are awesome < 1470194825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1470194842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cos you deserved it. < 1470195000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a wikipedia article for "List of crazy shit said by Donald J. Trump" break NPOV? < 1470195032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously, not with that name- probably more along the lines of "List of controversial statements made by Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential race" < 1470195034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470195044 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1470195055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Probably not which way? < 1470195068 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not NPOV < 1470195076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, while it is obviously getting /really/ close to NPOV, Trump DOES say a LOT of crazy things that it would be nice to have a neutral lookup of < 1470195101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they'd have to make one for hillary too, then. < 1470195122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump is probably basically that < 1470195126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well of course < 1470195182 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And honestly, saying "Donald Trump is an emotionally-unstable compulsive liar" probably doesn't really break NPOV at this point < 1470195212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Trump said Snowden should be "executed" < 1470195381 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: he probably won't say that now, now that russia is on his side < 1470195590 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"List of changes to the political positions of Donald Trump" < 1470196443 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470196582 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470196710 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470197901 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470198115 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470198173 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470198218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( much adu about nothing ) < 1470198260 0 :Qbitn!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470198347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is a paper I can point someone to that has a formal definition of Leibniz's dy/dx notation? < 1470199071 0 :Qbitn!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470199276 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex... isn't here < 1470199277 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1470199352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470200114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: he's in another channel. < 1470200186 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really need to be formal about it? just divide the height thingy d^2 by the width (dx)^2 to get the slope, then simplify using (dx)^2 = dx^2 < 1470201371 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have a book about the hyperreals somewhere < 1470201379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hyperreals are scow. < 1470201392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in NSA they define dy/dx to mean something like the real part of some expression. < 1470201397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not literally dy divided by dx < 1470201909 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non standard (crypt-)analysis < 1470202094 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the derivative of y is the standard (non infinitesimal) part of dy/dx < 1470202121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. So dy/du du/dx = dy/dx doesn't make sense seen as canceling. < 1470202157 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it does if you use the various properties of the st() function < 1470202339 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, the property st(xy) = st(x)st(y) : x,y finite < 1470203303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much chance of getting a break in girl genius < 1470203356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes zeetha and dimo won't get wasped
< 1470203447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or violetta, hm < 1470204883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470204941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just found an xkcd I haven't seen before :D < 1470204945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/679/ < 1470205117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: SPOILERS tdnh < 1470205219 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470206345 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470206409 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470206492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470206970 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470207935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry :( < 1470207951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably forget it by the time I read GG. < 1470207953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever do. < 1470207988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1470208018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure my spoiler wasn't precise enough to matter unless you've been recently following. < 1470208045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to make you feel bad. < 1470208055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be the one who's apologizing. < 1470208061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXACTLY < 1470208098 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470208121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does the notation dy/dx mean? < 1470208126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please advise. < 1470208135 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470208153 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1470208173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if y is a function f(x) then it means lim h -> 0 (f(x+h)-f(x))/h, hth < 1470208183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-a function < 1470208219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y is a function or an expression? < 1470208231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already corrected it < 1470208238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is y an expression? < 1470208241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1470208248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does dy/dx mean D(\x.y)(x)? < 1470208260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much. < 1470208265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was thinking. < 1470208278 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470208280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now people say things like y^2 = x^2; d/dx both sides to get dy/dx = x/y < 1470208287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's dy/dx in that case? < 1470208305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAGIC < 1470208372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, really the same thing. < 1470208424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When y isn't an expression in terms of x? < 1470208429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just assuming y is some expression in x. < 1470208446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to solve for it, or something. < 1470208447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you use D if you can't make a function \x.y? < 1470208479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think of y as a meta-variable? < 1470208487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never meta-variable I didn't like. < 1470208492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure how it helps here. < 1470208509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course then they'll turn it around and solve x in terms of y. < 1470208554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One property of dy/dx is that dx/dy = 1/(dy/dx) < 1470208577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1470208600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you can do is to think of this as both x and y being expressions in a third variable < 1470208660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208684 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? Wheres my jick? My client pinged me < 1470208688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an arbitrary nonzero constant, even. < 1470208697 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1470208698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: when? < 1470208715 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its highlighting (oerjan) and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208718 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf < 1470208743 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* onetime only i bet < 1470208773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208783 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highlighted it again < 1470208784 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf < 1470208793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1470208800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twotime only i bet < 1470208817 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got pinged somewhere else just now, also a apparently random highlight, wtf < 1470208833 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irc had better explain < 1470208844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's your client doing that hth < 1470208881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470208888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :check if it has some highlight settings. < 1470208890 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill check my HL filters < 1470208904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, binary search! < 1470208912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, wh < 1470208925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you gotta be more like a cpu < 1470208935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :start branch predicting hth < 1470208955 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh lol there was a stray 'a' in my j=highlight settings < 1470208958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to predict without data < 1470208972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, binary search is maximally unpredictable anyway. < 1470208978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the whole point. < 1470209004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But predicting nothing is worse than a wrong prediction. < 1470209011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you care about spam, that is. < 1470209014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 allquotes < 1470209018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/496:1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 3) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 4) GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. \ 5) His body should be given to science. He's alive :P Even so. \ 6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 7) TODO: < 1470209036 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh boy < 1470209143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway, what justifies the whole thing where you separate the dy and the dx? < 1470209156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAGIC < 1470209158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = y -> dy = y dx < 1470209184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, is not like i formally know this. < 1470209202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one formally knows this. < 1470209204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the thing. < 1470209208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they all use it and it works somehow. < 1470209225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncidence?! < 1470209300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, can you do these tricks on derivatives with types? < 1470209309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1470209330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. T = T^7, so dT/dT = dT^7/dT, so 7*T^6 = 1 < 1470209436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sidles away
< 1470209978 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470210133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(x) = 1 + x*L(x), so dL(x)/dx = L(x) + x*dL(x)/dx < 1470210134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. < 1470210271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? that's just differentiating multiplication. < 1470210827 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470211365 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470211578 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1470211756 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:693a:705c:8bb4:7898 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470211889 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e536:38ec:f41e:10cc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470214295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470214399 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470214665 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hmph, anyone know how to prevent people from formating C:\ on MS DOS 6.22?" => I think you don't understand how DOS works. DOS allows all programs full access to your system. Including booting a linux. Make backups if you have sensitive data. < 1470215389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you didn't ping him < 1470215772 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? there were a lot of 'a's in that line < 1470215782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470215815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i think it was only "a" as a single word, although there's one there. < 1470215984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: you've been unpinged hth < 1470216002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look overly present. < 1470216099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochythedog < 1470216289 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470217010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470217216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ^ < 1470220209 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoop, the wiki recent-changes bridge seems to have gone away again. < 1470221083 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99e1:3455:87ab:f24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470221955 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470222034 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222654 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rycdbeuogvbaahqc QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470222783 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qruqbindfjykzocr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470222815 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gemzmhnsemfzgdir JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222866 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222964 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470223292 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1470224231 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225654 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225665 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470225706 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99e1:3455:87ab:f24 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470225708 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ENTITY CHICKEN < 1470225737 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225756 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470225778 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470227584 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so a unitary matrix is a square-shaped complex matrix whose columns are unit length and pairwise orthogonal, but if it's a real matrix then it's called an orthogonal matrix instead of a unitary matrix, and if it's a Christian religious denomination then they call it unitarian instead. < 1470227599 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this terminology is confusing, especially if you also add the Hungarian translations. < 1470228004 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470228163 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470229888 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470230605 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470230983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49067&oldid=47098 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+41) 10Added a link to my implementation < 1470231057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49068&oldid=49067 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (-77) 10y u lie < 1470231243 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470231452 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470233771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470234048 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470234066 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470234289 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470235108 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470236053 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what would happen if you took a board designed to be used with a main processor, but noted that you couldn't use the main processor and could only use the co-processor? (The main processor would be responsible for initial data upload to the co-processor, though) < 1470236073 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that, for sufficiently annoying-to-use co-processors, be esoteric? :) < 1470236247 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: do you mean a coprocessor like in the Sega Saturn which has two equally powerful processors, or a coprocessor as in an intel 80387 which is totally impossible to use without a 386 because it can't even sequence instructions or compute addresses on its own, or a graphics processor in a modern day computer? < 1470236266 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was thinking the J1 coprocessor in the Gameduino. < 1470236341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or say the processor in a large printer or printer-scanner on which you can even play Doom, or the processor in the router which runs linux or bsd even when your desktop is turned off, or the small processor in the keyboard, or the processor in ... < 1470236355 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days we have powerful processors everywhere < 1470236439 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, hence I was thinking of a specific hardware platform in which the coprocessor has, among other things: < 1470236571 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :code size limitations, and pretty much all available RAM (afaik not usable as code) is used for some hardware feature or another (so you have to make a choice between RAM or video) < 1470236616 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like, you could sacrifice tile RAM, or maybe sacrifice sprite palettes/sprite image data) < 1470236662 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ofc you can still use the other sprite image RAM areas, but it still means you have less sprite images available) < 1470236678 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470237475 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238337 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238491 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: sounds like graphics code < 1470238664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49069&oldid=49068 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+25) 10 < 1470238897 0 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238962 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470238992 0 :sebbu3!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1470241108 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470242543 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SetBang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49070&oldid=47016 5* 0363.116.152.166 5* (+107) 10Third blog post. < 1470242896 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, new setbang post < 1470242947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470242954 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a language is good for job security, I doubt I want to use it < 1470242980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's usually "you go and everything collapses" kind of security < 1470246353 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a language recently where everything is a pointer to a pointer to a pointer? < 1470246391 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could only do pinter arithmentic indirected through sevarl pointers as the only opearion? < 1470246404 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: 3*? < 1470246410 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1470246417 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however it was stylised < 1470246422 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried doing some stuff with that < 1470246428 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was fun < 1470246449 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three star programmer < 1470246481 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: was that the name of the language, or are you calling me one? < 1470246543 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the name < 1470247036 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470247045 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, both would be correct, then :P < 1470248019 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470248041 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone please explain why 'Refrigerator' is in the topic < 1470248101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470248125 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too hot without it < 1470248211 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1470248225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheDwarf_: its the last line of the haiku < 1470248234 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470248277 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :telekinetic interdisciplinary refrigerator < 1470248439 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ...because anything can be interdisciplinary, right? < 1470249566 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470249579 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470249579 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1470249785 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $'\357\273\277' < 1470249798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE] < 1470250191 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: duh < 1470251224 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :refigerator also has five syllables in Japanese < 1470251635 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:654c:59b4:e26:3afd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470251864 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:654c:59b4:e26:3afd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470251865 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470252344 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanyone know how to set up serial over network for bochs? < 1470252566 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d125:4915:bf9f:68b3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470252652 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470252876 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470253114 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-204-150.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470253372 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-204-150.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470254179 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470255746 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470256393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470256412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horseshoe Theory is fun < 1470256422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can combine it with the Political Compass or something... < 1470256642 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470256856 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: don't work in /tmp if it's a tmpfs and there's the slightest chance of a power fail < 1470257577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protip: Follow all protips you see, because they're usually good advice < 1470257616 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProtIP: protects your IP address. < 1470257678 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d125:4915:bf9f:68b3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470258153 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you don't? D: < 1470258171 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :will hackers find where i live and tell isis to kidnap my dog? < 1470258180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New favorite hard-to-parse-but-still valid ("garden path") sentence: Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like? < 1470258190 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends... do you have a dog? < 1470258193 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1470258195 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1470258199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no. < 1470258202 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470258204 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1470258207 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they know it? < 1470258277 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from ypur ip, dude < 1470258302 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to stop using Isabelle for today... I'm starting to find "by auto blast" amusing. < 1470258303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they just check the dog bit < 1470258333 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta get one of those fancy new dynamic ips < 1470258343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch bit? < 1470258738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We shouldn't use Appeals to Tradition in debates because they've always been considered invalid arguments < 1470258832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non sequiturs are a bad form of reasoning because space monkeys are trying to conquer the moon < 1470258969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it < 1470258973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that you're arguing against classes of arguments by using those arguments themselves < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who invoke Ad Hominem are assholes < 1470258974 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! Ad Hominem apparently translates to "against the man" < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefor, hippies can be called "Ad Hominites" < 1470258974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad poochinem < 1470259064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we allow Appeal to Fear to be used, then Trump will be elected < 1470259099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about appeal to rudeness < 1470259241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being rude now < 1470259241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's ok < 1470259242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My preferred argument is Appeal to the Supreme Court < 1470259242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470259315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the argument I like to use the most is (1) take the opponent's basic claim/evidence, assume it's true (letting other people debunk that, as I usually do mass debating) (2) show that, even if their evidence is true, their conclusion is still stupid because, once you calculate statistics, their are several other possibilities < 1470259326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, Trump claimed he saw New Jersey muslims cheering on 9/11 < 1470259362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the math and found that there are a few thousand muslims in New Jersey whose birthday was on 9/11, so even if he did see that, it could very well have been a coincidence < 1470259475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prays that that doesn't have any glaring flaws
< 1470259792 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you came up with a pathetic excuse for something that didn't happen in the first place < 1470259831 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :only making your opponent look more credible than you < 1470259938 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470259960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Carl is a jackass." - Wikipedia, and not in the context of a quote < 1470260172 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470260855 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1470260878 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nundrum//A nundrum is the categorical dual of a conundrum: a problem whose solution is useless. < 1470260912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing//Turing is what you are doing when you Tur < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid//A monoid is the easy version of a category. < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexchat//Hexchat is a variant of Smalltalk invented in Hexham. < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clbin//clbin is a "command line pastebin" web application: https://clbin.com < 1470261008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "turing" meant "using the Internet". < 1470261099 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470261219 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470261360 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470261395 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470261418 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got a amazing 46 FPS on a max size embark (dwarf fortress 0.43.05, 64bit) < 1470261542 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470261777 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now flood the map with magma and see that go down to less than one < 1470261862 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470261874 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already halved, vut arill, 46 starting fps is new < 1470262178 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470262239 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-220.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470262338 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf, mhelloon___, hellorin! < 1470262365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily yo < 1470262439 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1470262606 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470262606 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470262633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1470262747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits clbin < 1470262755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dipperswett < 1470263085 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470263147 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470263147 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470263158 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1470263311 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :MoonyTheHuman < 1470263386 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470263412 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470263428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470263719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellwob_jonas! < 1470263816 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470263834 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470264021 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470264030 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the large fast SD card I ordered hasn't arrived, even though the delivery was estimated for up to today, and it comes from the UK < 1470264072 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470264147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1470264149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-03 21:42:19.388000000+00:00 < 1470264161 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK is faraway hth < 1470264187 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, I heard scary stories < 1470264250 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Taneb is a nazgûl? < 1470264655 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi wob_jonas < 1470264695 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... if I digitally edit the airplane boarding pass to remove the LARGE ADS WITH FULL-COLOR PHOTO THAT TAKE UP A THIRD OF THE SHEET to conserve ink, but keep the barcodes and text data, would that be crazy of me? < 1470264986 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470265019 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265091 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3859:70f0:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U4kg2cHyP6k/URLY6BOsypI/AAAAAAAAA6E/HGLOlRU1HBc/s1222/foxnewsprime.jpg < 1470265184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody needs to die < 1470265359 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470265474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. this makes me angry. < 1470265497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Me too. < 1470265506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will find that article and execute the writer. < 1470265516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone needs to die. < 1470265525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I particularly don't think you should talk about killing people. < 1470265526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bullet to the stomach seems appropriate, unless there's something more ironic < 1470265527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't. < 1470265532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, stop it. < 1470265544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there any more ironic, less illegal response? < 1470265553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know or care. < 1470265574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, your jokes in here aren't funny anyway. I just ignore them. < 1470265583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is crossing some line. < 1470265602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1470265618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't so much joking as I was appalled and angry < 1470265621 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/serenity.png ) < 1470265643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything appalling. < 1470265661 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except for the bit where you're talking about murdering people. < 1470265673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A person who was tasked with writing a news article that would be read by many Americans about math said that prime number have "very little importance" < 1470265680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/number/numbers/ < 1470265687 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Quit: tswett < 1470265692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was just one guy being an idiot to himself, it'd be fine < 1470265701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ? < 1470265704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is an article that will be read by lots of people < 1470265713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prime numbers have very little importance. < 1470265734 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas death threats or whatever have a lot more importance. < 1470265749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure prime numbers have a lot of importance to society < 1470265754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, y'know, encryption < 1470265777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Small amount of imortance. You can do encryption without prime numbers. < 1470265792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not the point. Even if that person is wrong, your behavior is unacceptable. < 1470265813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I request that you stop. < 1470265820 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1470265832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1470265891 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read this over. ??? never seen hppavilion[1] use that bad of a joke >_> < 1470265908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheHuman: It's what happens when I'm angry < 1470265927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And keep in mind, I saw that in the middle of a long line of fox news fails and lies < 1470265955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, several disproportionate bar graphs where an increase of 1 would be represented as 8 times as much < 1470265962 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a coping mechanism, though a bit leaky < 1470265991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, I see now. < 1470266015 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just don't do news < 1470266044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I have family that watches Fox News exclusively, so this is personal for me < 1470266066 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :american problems < 1470266080 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. serenity? < 1470266087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So on a different note < 1470266092 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. Gimmie the latest D-Wave computer and a good prime number calculator. done. moar < 1470266096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a better form of math education in the US < 1470266109 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1470266124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What classes should be mandatory (at what grades can they be taken, what grades must they be taken by), what do they cover, what options should be mandatorily available? < 1470266127 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wquehbmldwgvaurz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470266148 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres one: Vector\ < 1470266155 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf please stop being such a grumpy codger < 1470266177 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old are you hppavilion[1] anyway < 1470266207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no u < 1470266244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as long as I avoid reading between the lines < 1470266285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Perhaps I should use an IRC client that supports temporarily showing ignored text. < 1470266289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...object to answer? < 1470266306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think schools should teach logic of some sort < 1470266325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, a half-semester class where they go over logical fallacies and say why they're wrong and you shouldn't use them) < 1470266334 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that less people get reasonable grades? < 1470266337 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how logical fallacies work < 1470266338 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470266346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think it is? < 1470266422 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i have to tell you a truth < 1470266429 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are stupid < 1470266432 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deal with it < 1470266432 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :'logical fallacies' with the latin name and shit are kind of useless < 1470266441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: On average, people are average intelligence. < 1470266458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Not really; and it would cover informal ones too < 1470266464 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that doesn't make most of the people less stupid < 1470266487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cognitive biases are the empirically-measurable equivalent and they don't work like a little book of Reasons People Are Wrong Online < 1470266492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: True Scotsmen get to skip the class) < 1470266544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470266628 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jhxbhcxcfmxkxqvo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470266661 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just opened my first pickled peppers. they taste good ^^ < 1470266764 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go full UEF and try to coach people out of the fundamental attribution error but i imagine it'd be p tricky in real life < 1470266848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :baroi lyereko < 1470266878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good afternoon, oerjan. < 1470266889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good evening, shachaf. < 1470266965 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( baroi lyereko??? I have no fungotting clue... ) < 1470266966 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oct. 19, 2000 < 1470266970 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that his procedure for reading the logs has become ridiculously convoluted.
< 1470266976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How d'you do? < 1470266979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1470266980 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoerjani < 1470266991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evenint-e < 1470267011 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubusuku oerjabuhle < 1470267014 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not quite the same https://xkcd.com/609/ < 1470267019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's transliterated, anyway. < 1470267034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ukrainian? < 1470267063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is there a rickrolling wiki ) < 1470267068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1470267106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume ukrainian would use something dobry-like, like any good slavic language? < 1470267153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has to cheat, anyway.
< 1470267165 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, dobroho večora. < 1470267165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i can guess it's a bantu language? < 1470267182 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xhosa. < 1470267188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1470267192 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours is some sami variant? < 1470267194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1470267204 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1470267205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: jolly good show, old chap < 1470267211 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (never) I (gonna) sincerely (give) hope (you) that (up) there (never) is (gonna) no (let) such (you) thing! (down!) < 1470267248 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION subliminally mapoles int-e
< 1470267263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't used sami because the phrases i found did not seem to attach well to boily. < 1470267275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afair. < 1470267315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hint? < 1470267322 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470267344 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet, still searching. < 1470267389 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :found! < 1470267393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eastern armenian. < 1470267437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: to read the logs, i'm (1) making sure tunes is shown in utf-8 (it isn't always. in some cases i cannot even show it but have to save.) (2) copy into vim (3) break lines (4) load file in browser. < 1470267496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds complicated. < 1470267499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should automate it. < 1470267518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the line breaking is convoluted too. i should make a macro. < 1470267552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it convoluted? < 1470267573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yep < 1470267591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1470267593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L½ŒÛµìüª¦¼Ð’ÝæÕ}9´Ï]Jm玅¾í[¸Ï¯0³óUÔ.Fi¸ < 1470267602 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :short, that time < 1470267615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a normal mode command that only inserts one break (and indent) per affected line, so i repeat until it stops. < 1470267689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::%s/\(.\{75\}\) /\1^M / < 1470267757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you make a small web page that fetches the latest log, applies transformation, and serves it to your browser? < 1470267767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1470267791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you could just go to that URL directly. It'd be so easy. < 1470267838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot the step where i sometimes join two days hth < 1470267865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that too. < 1470267879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With only a small amount of work you can ask for the logs for any time interval. < 1470267890 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470267915 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1470268078 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1470268100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so ghc is going to get a "bespoke" keyword. < 1470268106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in deriving clauses) < 1470268121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky < 1470268144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a word i'm intuitively familiar with, although the dictionary meaning _does_ fit. < 1470268190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it means to apply the specialized deriving method for a builtin class.) < 1470268222 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470268229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it may not be used that much, being the default whenever applicable. < 1470268251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope.) < 1470268392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470268521 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470269321 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also type "view-source:" in front of the URL to force it to display in the browser (at least this works for Firefox and other Mozilla-based browsers). < 1470269410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work in Mozilla Navigator? < 1470269560 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, do you play Dominion? < 1470269572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardly. < 1470269581 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also ais523 isn't here, I wanted to tell him thanks for being a good historian < 1470269605 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... whatever you call it when someone meticulously documents stuff for the benefit of future historians < 1470269638 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A HistoryProvider. < 1470269665 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've played Dominion once at a birthday party. If that's referring to the card game. < 1470269671 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470269688 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned the rules and might try playing through the tutorial tonight < 1470269706 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's evenly matched like Prismata but has RNG < 1470269753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then let's play Prismata. < 1470269763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie can play too. < 1470269806 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, but no-thanks. Sounds too reasonable a thing to do. < 1470269823 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1470269904 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg07043.html
< 1470270190 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470270520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: chronicler? < 1470270552 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that was an office in Agora that I apparently held but don't remember holding < 1470270657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stealthily takes a DNA sample of MoonyThe"Human"
< 1470270718 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, too busy messing with DF raws < 1470270744 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making cats highly volatile < 1470270749 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun < 1470270810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts the sample into the analyzer
< 1470270881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470270885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why the analyzer ran away screaming
< 1470270917 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470270919 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470270939 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheHuman: you aren't human. you're a moon hth < 1470270953 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, like Prozac the Bear? < 1470270992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's no moon! < 1470270993 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what i am, have a list of usernames: MoonyTheHuman, qbitn, MoonyTheDwarf, moon, moon_, moon__, moon___, moonheart08 < 1470271015 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that qbitn is new, i wanted something original :P < 1470271064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Prozac the Bear, that was a long time ago. i don't even remember clearly what he was. < 1470271081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh qbitn was you? < 1470271095 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3859:70f0:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470271114 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just added [DAMBLOCK:1] to cats < 1470271129 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i make it higher < 1470271203 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470271218 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Triangle and Robert character < 1470271258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: i know that. i just don't remember how far he was from being a bear. probably a lot, given the comic. < 1470271279 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was a Prozac < 1470271327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1470271331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1470271335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1470271336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s-doesn't exist-exists- < 1470271386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric/s/about/a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about/ < 1470271419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1470271430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s/about/a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about/ < 1470271434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiled < 1470271434 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep burrito wisdom < 1470271476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric:#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I protest. < 1470271496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s#burrito#whatever# < 1470271498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperwhatever about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just about anything is an improvement over burrito jokes. < 1470271552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but the original has taco ;_; < 1470271575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Original? < 1470271579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s#whatever#enchilada# < 1470271582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperenchilada about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :7-tacodimensional? < 1470271595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: triangle and robert's world is a 4-dimension hypertaco hth < 1470272096 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470272688 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470273617 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[BODY:QUADRUPED_NECK:2EYES:4EARS:8NOSE:16LUNGS:32HEART:64GUTS:128ORGANS:256THROAT:512NECK:1024SPINE:2048BRAIN] << i seriously regret putting this on cats < 1470274180 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470274311 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. are they the number of body parts, or some other random stats? < 1470274705 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470275063 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of parts < 1470275073 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1470275079 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was something else < 1470275130 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot may you have mercy on us all... < 1470275130 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to find. initiates my bad reaction of companies that the attached and let it go with maureen's december 22nd. < 1470275153 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will try to not have nightmares about these Teratomorphic Kitties
< 1470275238 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow in this DF world Dingo Men are the most successful < 1470275240 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew < 1470275260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470275261 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew < 1470275264 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew? < 1470275348 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470275390 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wew < 1470275393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470275541 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :W E W L A D < 1470275541 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :E < 1470275542 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :W < 1470275543 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :L < 1470275544 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1470275545 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1470275747 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confusingly mapoles Phantom_Hoover
< 1470276148 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470276162 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is boily still doing here < 1470276230 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where is oerjan? < 1470276244 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im busy beheading my monstercats in DF < 1470276255 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1470276255 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470276270 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep oneshotting them >_> < 1470276292 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470276309 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdnh < 1470276334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan do you beer < 1470276355 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and they have 2048 brains bythe way < 1470276415 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :svmdnh < 1470276430 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4EARS:8NOSE:16LUNGS:32HEART:64GUTS:128ORGANS:256THROAT:512NECK:1024SPINE:2048BRAIN < 1470276433 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is ur list < 1470276449 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgbqintjraskqgns QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470276580 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470276639 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not there. I am an illusion. < 1470276650 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION flees and hides under covers
< 1470276657 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PRIMITIVE CHICKEN < 1470276889 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheHuman, this reminds me of a story i red < 1470276891 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*read < 1470276999 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470277516 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470277675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i am not sure when's the last time i beered. it may have been a family visit some years ago. on rare occasions i cognac or aquavit. hm, i haven't had wine in a while either. < 1470278592 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470278627 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470278703 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470278757 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470279012 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i just tried a Nøgne Ø doible IPA and it was pretty bad so so far norways beer performance is a bit lacking < 1470279021 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aquavit is good tho < 1470279318 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470279459 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470279568 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. Anyone know of any macro extensible version of LOOP or other esolang that is basically at the primitive recursive function level of completeness? < 1470279586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a problem with the GHC user's guide. its table of contents needs a table of contents. < 1470279729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i got confused because BlooP is like the last part of that. < 1470279967 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking if combining something like such macro LOOP with something like Postscript display model or RIPSCRIP|NAPLPS plus outside eventlooping would yeild somewhat usable software whose turns|iteration of the eventloop are known to terminate* < 1470280056 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* property of primitive recursive functions that by construction they do terminate as the only backbranching (or backjumping) construct is a countdown loop whose counter is only set right before it is entered) < 1470280066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i Zarutian38 < 1470280137 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1470280277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1470280451 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP RIP < 1470280467 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ol' BBSes < 1470280609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Cale < 1470280622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Cale: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1470280641 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such colours < 1470280879 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welvomr < 1470280885 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damnit < 1470280935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s relcome bin/04w08e09l11c12o13m04e < 1470280940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470280954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`04w08e09l11c12o13m04e HackEgo < 1470280957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09HackEgo: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1470280964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like it tdh < 1470281014 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the choice of starting colour randomised, or based on the user's name? < 1470281021 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome HackEgo < 1470281023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1470281025 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, heh < 1470281032 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome HackEgo < 1470281034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09HackEgo: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1470281039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/relcome < 1470281039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainwords < 1470281045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rainwords < 1470281045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13]; print "\n".join((lambda s: " ".join(chr(3) + "%02d"%r[(i+s)%len(r)] + l[i] for i in range(len(l))))(random.randrange(0, len(r))) for l in w) < 1470281190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that no one `relcomed Zarutian, but isn't sure whether e's new or not.
< 1470281242 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale, hackego is a sandboxed linux system < 1470281265 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: haha, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow-growing_hierarchy#Relation_to_fast-growing_hierarchy < 1470281339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That article title looks like a joke. < 1470281384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is great. < 1470281434 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what HackEgo would do with: curl -sS https://gist.githubusercontent.com/zarutian/9191d98f731241a52e1a4f6a59dd0587/raw/f4b7cee07dea66e8721ded9559059245e79bdf9b/test.sh | tee test.sh | openssl dgst -sha256 | { read k; if [ "$k" == "113b61457034e72b9a12eb875df5ed71e265dcc6105c00e472187d30c0cc8c88" ] ; then source test.sh ; else echo "failed"; fi }
< 1470281468 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No network access < 1470281481 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curl doesnt exist to hackego anyways < 1470281549 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw that is a demostration of a better curlpipebash though such things are still rather bad < 1470281642 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo -n "bla" | openssl dgst -sha256 < 1470281644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-n "bla" | openssl dgst -sha256 < 1470281686 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use `` for multiple args < 1470281697 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont forget the space < 1470281709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you can /msg HackEgo to try things out. < 1470281717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make sure that if you change anything you do it in the channel. < 1470281718 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n "bla" | openssl dgst -sha256 < 1470281720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: can't open config file: /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf \ (stdin)= 4df3c3f68fcc83b27e9d42c90431a72499f17875c81a599b566c9889b9696703 < 1470281754 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470282199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mustard watch < 1470282201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mustard watch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470282302 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470282346 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470282388 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470282407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn mustard watch/A mustard watch is just a classical watch extended with a certain amount of mustard in the mechanism. < 1470282410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «mustard watch» < 1470282572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470283210 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470284338 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470284356 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470284384 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470284538 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470286285 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470286802 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470287419 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470287426 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sup brainfuckers ;) < 1470288045 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288157 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470288189 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288373 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470288402 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288520 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470288543 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unusually quiet in here tonight. < 1470288545 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288676 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470288988 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470289012 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470289251 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470289257 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net PART #esoteric : < 1470289353 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470289411 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470290452 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470291471 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1470291486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1470292022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taste < 1470292024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taste? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470292030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flavor < 1470292032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flavor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470292034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flavour < 1470292035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flavour? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470292038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1470292055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep 'of the day' wisdom < 1470292064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/markdown:The markdown flavor of the day is walnut. < 1470292096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd markdown//s/walnut/camphor/ < 1470292100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/markdown//The markdown flavor of the day is camphor. < 1470292495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The number of the hour is 14. < 1470292497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'number': The number of the hour is 14. < 1470292543 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I added the program to make hint files into FreeUHS. < 1470292564 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please look at the documentation and tell me if it is good or not good or whatever. < 1470292577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't provide a link to the documentation. < 1470292626 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.npmjs.com/package/freeuhs < 1470292792 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has JSON export and SQL export. < 1470294778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470297735 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470299245 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470300704 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470300871 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470301348 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plyorrkkwrstuhyz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470302173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470303997 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jhxbhcxcfmxkxqvo QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470304012 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-efkeafpybyzslkdc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470304103 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3814:e19a:28b3:244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470305002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: Will silence fall? < 1470305345 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Falling on top of what? < 1470305362 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I type these messages on this computer, it makes noise; it doesn't silence. < 1470305535 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you threw silence off of a cliff, would it fall? < 1470305948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1470305982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump's odds of winning (according to five3eight) have dropped to about 25% < 1470306000 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally. < 1470306228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: So instead, we'll probably get... Hillary < 1470306308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to injure both candidates so that they will not recover in time. < 1470306334 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. You'll probably get Hillary. I, on the other hand, will be sipping tea and watching as the rotten tomatoes get flung over that golf course I heard about. < 1470306378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1470306386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Where do you live and how hard will it be to flee there? < 1470306413 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least one famous ship hit an iceberg when trying to get from here to where you are. < 1470306421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1470306424 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "here" is at the country level. < 1470306431 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that New York? < 1470306437 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1470306438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember the Titanic aiming for New York < 1470306439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470306441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada, then? < 1470306449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has to be one of the two < 1470306453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the titanic was aiming for New York < 1470306459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then where was it coming from? < 1470306468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm 99% certain that the Titanic was going west) < 1470306476 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(exactly) < 1470306483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russia? < 1470306486 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470306492 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :England! < 1470306495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470306502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Titanic was going East then? < 1470306505 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470306528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Europe is east of the U.S. < 1470306540 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. So if it was going *from* Europe < 1470306543 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to* the US < 1470306550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1470306553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFG < 1470306562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it "to here from where you are" < 1470306578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then read it that way again repeatedly < 1470306586 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470306603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes and sits in the stupid hole
< 1470306611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives hppavilion[1] a biscuit
< 1470306639 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/531/391/b58.gif is what people hereabouts tend to use when they've done something like that. < 1470306677 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what on earth is that? < 1470306689 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the shame cube. < 1470306702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thought it was the shame matrix of solidity? < 1470306725 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where it's from. Know Your Meme just has the image in their gallery, no explanations. < 1470306728 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a box you can... meditate... in < 1470306790 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now I'm wondering why Portal doesn't feature one of those... it would fit perfectly) < 1470306837 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you could even use one to capture turrets. < 1470306897 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be much more turricula < 1470306908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be much more turriculane than the usual technique of knocking them over? < 1470306940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Maybe in Portal 3 < 1470307046 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :To jump back to the original conversation -- given recent events, I'd think fleeing to here is going to be increasingly difficult, what with this whole "get all them foreigners out" stuff. < 1470308414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But almost everyone in England is a foreigner. < 1470309644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, that's america < 1470309669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, are we talking about immigration recently or about the fact that Americans are all immigrants unless they're native?) < 1470309676 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3814:e19a:28b3:244 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470309729 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking about the fact that people in England tend not to be US citizens, under a US-centric view of the world. < 1470310553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1470310635 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470311019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoilyQ < 1470311022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Q/!/ < 1470311033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, do I need to escape bangs?) < 1470311105 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[!]1 < 1470311140 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you use them as /-substitutes hth < 1470312577 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312580 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312582 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470312669 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cia//CIA sees it all. < 1470312674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arabic//.scihpylgoreiH sa drah sa ton hguoht ,troppus stnof ekam ot drah yrev si taht egaugnal citimes lartnec a si cibarA < 1470312675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copower//Copower rrupts. < 1470312677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guestbot//guestbot is nobody < 1470312730 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fungot am I supposed to format wisdom/arabic in the PDF... < 1470312757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd half a mind to delete it. < 1470312774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg guestbot < 1470312778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert accbc9c5c7ec \ echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ revert \ revert 1 \ revert \ for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ learn guestbot is nobody < 1470312789 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, by the look of it, it's just in reverse < 1470312791 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no special chars < 1470312802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: feel free to revert it < 1470312819 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taht etalume tsuj os < 1470312923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1470312925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1470312927 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dog < 1470312929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470312930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pooch < 1470312931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470312935 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but I'd like for the arabic part to be to the right. and maybe LaTeX supports character reflections, so it can really be RTL. < 1470312936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zebra < 1470312937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zebra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470313045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: don't do character reflections for this. reflect the whole paragraph. < 1470313148 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuh... that's what I meant, just checking if somebody paid attention... < 1470313176 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the arabic entry shouldn't be reflected < 1470313195 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to whistle innocently, but only splits bits of peanut butter toast
< 1470313197 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should either just show it as is, or show it aligned to the right margin instead of the left < 1470313219 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss\split\ss\spit\ss < 1470313699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long do you think it is before fandoms dominate enough of the world that politicians start having to pander to them? < 1470313713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, Ted Cruz officially* endorsed Applejack as best pony < 1470313727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weirdly < 1470313771 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: WORTHY CHICKEN < 1470314310 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hd wisdom/arabic < 1470314312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000000 2e 73 63 69 68 70 79 6c 67 6f 72 65 69 48 20 73 >.scihpylgoreiH s< \ 000010 61 20 64 72 61 68 20 73 61 20 74 6f 6e 20 68 67 >a drah sa ton hg< \ 000020 75 6f 68 74 20 2c 74 72 6f 70 70 75 73 20 73 74 >uoht ,troppus st< \ 000030 6e 6f 66 20 65 6b 61 6d 20 6f 74 20 64 72 61 68 >nof ekam ot drah< \ 000040 20 79 72 65 76 20 73 69 20 74 61 68 < 1470314900 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ‮Arabic is a central semitic language that is very hard to make fonts support, though not as hard as Hieroglyphics. < 1470314901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‮Arabic is a central semitic language that is very hard to make fonts support, though not as hard as Hieroglyphics. < 1470314921 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many terminals display that correctly. < 1470314947 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of three. os x terminal.app, pangoterm, and one I can't remember the name of < 1470315053 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470315244 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:693a:705c:8bb4:7898 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470315716 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: What counts as correctly, and what as incorrectly? < 1470315779 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw this (typed out rather than copy-pasted): "Arabic is a central semitic language that is very hard to make fonts support, though not as hard as Hieroglyphics." < 1470315788 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what it's supposed to look like? < 1470316386 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I see is ",troppus stnof ekam ot drah yrev si taht egaugnal citimes lartnec a si cibarA not as hard as Hieroglyphics." < 1470316410 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's also "hguoht" at the start. < 1470316421 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering where that "though" went. < 1470316592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470316902 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But which one is correct???? < 1470317484 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470317905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, then why didn't you say that, stupid error message? < 1470318213 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470319412 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that's a... novel interpretation of RTLO. < 1470319462 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, most articles about the RTLO seem to be about using it to spoof filename extensions. < 1470319571 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Blame the line break. < 1470319587 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well, word-wrapping break. < 1470319614 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's after "cibarA" that it wraps to the next line. < 1470321074 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470321752 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470328965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:BackFlip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49071&oldid=19937 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+513) 10/* Boolean Logic */ new section < 1470328986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:BackFlip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49072&oldid=49071 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+92) 10/* Boolean Logic */ < 1470331060 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470331099 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470331182 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470331440 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470332429 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470332944 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470333102 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470334974 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470335571 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470337189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470337756 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a898:d7f1:be73:a3a1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470339642 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470341244 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know of a simple black-box testing framework I can use to test my esolang interpreter? As in, running my program with lots of different input and testing for output or performance regressions < 1470341267 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a home-made shell script currently, but it feels like I'm reinventing the wheel < 1470341331 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :home-made shell scripts are pretty useful to get things quickly. As long as you don't try embedding a scripting language into it... < 1470341344 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470341366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a better way, but it depends what language your esolang interpreter is written in < 1470341413 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's worked pretty well so far, but it only checks stdout/stderr output. I'd love to be able to monitor performance improvements/regressions, but that complicates things a lot < 1470341421 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, the interpreter is written in C < 1470341754 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps consider a define to load & run the test suite from a file (alternating code/input/output) then write out the test times to another file? < 1470341769 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you don't end up covering binary start times, which will always be off on the first test, < 1470341775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etcetc. < 1470341796 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's some complex stuff about caching which I don't think anybody entirely understands) < 1470341834 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe there should be a sysfs interface for finding out about - and potentially adding to - the cache...) < 1470341909 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a898:d7f1:be73:a3a1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470341916 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm gonna spend more time creating a test system than improving the interpreter < 1470342783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily USPS is chatting with Postes Canada to find out why this package was returned to me. They'll get back to me by Sep. 8. Is this too long to wait for redress y/n? < 1470342783 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470342890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: That's true. You'd probably spend more time configuring any test system you get than the interpreter, anyway. < 1470342936 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: So, you'd probably end up spending more time either way than if you stick with the shell script... < 1470342985 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm sticking with the basic shell script for now. The only thing it lacks is performance testing, anyway < 1470343066 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easily doable just with a few additional lines in the program itself to check the time at the start & end. < 1470343226 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470343398 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470344107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I think Cindercone is getting hacked. < 1470344257 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470344581 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the expected run time of a program that mmaps a 4gb file on a machine with less than 4gb free ram, and then writes a byte in 1 million random positions on that file? < 1470344618 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a 5700rpm hdd < 1470344738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around about 8.2zorks. The realtime values depend on, for starters, HDD density, kernel version, and magic. < 1470344766 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how much magic i get < 1470344769 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i test that? < 1470344784 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, it's not how much magic. < 1470344795 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just magic itself provides the answer. Kind of. < 1470344805 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a lot to learn
< 1470344817 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in all seriousness, though, IDK? Try it and find out! :) < 1470344892 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure HDD density and kernel version are major factors, but so are things like "what else is currently causing HDD usage" and "what other programs does the kernel consider a priority..." < 1470344932 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if you were running two copies of this program, you'd get different results. < 1470345185 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the actual read granularity of modern drives? I imagine it could be larger than the typical 4kb page size... < 1470345284 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the drive, but most commonly it's 4k on new spinning rust. < 1470345319 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if it were 4kb, then you'd be loading about 1.47GB of data... if that fits in the RAM and the read heads don't have to move you're looking at about half an hour. In practice, I wouldn't be surprised to be off by a factor of 4 in either direction, and possibly more. < 1470345362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real answer is to measure, not guess. < 1470345365 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not reading in < 1470345382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kernel will read in < 1470345396 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok but it can discard each page as soon as it's read < 1470345414 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the slow part... writing out can be delayed and done in a nice escalator algorithm fashion so I expect it will actually be quite a bit faster. < 1470345422 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it won't. < 1470345444 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't unless you specifically tell it to with madvise. < 1470345446 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since you're going to read each sector approximately e times, it's actually worthwhile to keep them around < 1470345452 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's try with madvise < 1470345475 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sectore/4kb block/ < 1470345511 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you say MADV_DONTNEED each time it still probably *won't* immediately flush to disk. < 1470345563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, are MADV_DONTNEED pages zeroed eagerly? < 1470345582 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED < 1470345590 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the man page isn't clear about it < 1470345601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just realiizing that I know dangerously little about the specifics of Linux' memory management) < 1470345639 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: They're not zeroed *at all*. < 1470345667 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: afaiui there's a pool of zeroed pages for mmap of /dev/zero. < 1470345695 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MADV_DONTNEED only informs the kernel that a given memory range won't be accessed soon, so the kernel is free to discard the in-memory page (in which case reads will trigger a load from the backing store). < 1470345702 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is very useful because the C library likes to satsify large calloc requests that way < 1470345723 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and malloc... not clearing pages would produce data leaks) < 1470345738 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470345739 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470345767 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MADV_FREE does MADV_DONTNEED, but if it discards the in-memory page it will zero-fill on demand (i.e. COW a zero page) instead of loading from backing store. < 1470345797 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MADV_DONTNEED also works on any memory mapping, while MADV_FREE only works on private anonymous pages. < 1470345843 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's totally not in the man page < 1470345858 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is < 1470345863 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: MADV_DONTNEED is a minor potential optimization for reducing the working set. MADV_FREE is usable by a malloc's free() implementation. < 1470345867 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1470345874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U MADV < 1470345878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1470345894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're just as helpful as usual < 1470345904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have the same feel to it now that elliott is gone. < 1470345940 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :would MADV_DONTDUMP also improve performance somehow? < 1470345962 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only when you're crashing. < 1470345969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Really? I think that's a lot less helpful than usual. < 1470345977 0 :Eritzap!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470346013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't take participate in this conversation on my phone, anyway. < 1470346026 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I believe that you only add "hth" when whatever you say is not, actually, very helpful. < 1470346044 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1470346057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's the standard usage in this channel. < 1470346061 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is perfectly fine, btw < 1470346073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I put it on helpful things, though. < 1470346079 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries with MADV_RANDOM
< 1470346085 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta keep people on their toes, right? < 1470346114 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: The situation you describe would best fit MADV_RANDOM, yeah. < 1470346234 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder whether it would be worthwhile to make a list of 1000 random addresses, tell the kernel that they will be needed using MADV_WILLNEED, and then start modifying the bytes... < 1470346256 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the theory being that this gives the kernel an opportunity to schedule the disk reads nicely < 1470346273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, do you know the addresses in advance? < 1470346305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's just chunking < 1470346376 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, instead of generating a random address for each write access, I would generate a few in advance, then write. < 1470346390 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may not be possible in all cases. < 1470346898 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I also have no clue whether it actually pays off... it's a matter of magic. < 1470346955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmap is slightly scow < 1470347262 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrrr @mercurial... why does a hg revert -a not clear the resolution status of files < 1470347294 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why is that? < 1470347313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1470347335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It blocks the whole thread when there's a page fault, so it's unusable if you implement your own threading. < 1470347383 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that means you don't like any virtual memory management at all < 1470347394 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1470347411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I want it to integrate with my userspace threads better. < 1470347457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :use OS threads. < 1470347472 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're worried about page faults, just have a thread controlling access to the memory, and then use FIFOs to send commands to/from it. < 1470347481 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How will you allocate memory for these FIFOs? mmap, of course... < 1470347493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :page faults take up time, that's the nature of page faults. < 1470347538 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see no sane other way. The thing that causes the page fault is a plain CPU instruction... So whatever alternative instructions you want to have executed while the page is loaded, the kernel will have to know about. That's what OS threads are for. < 1470347572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, asynchronous page faults could be an option. < 1470347617 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a page fault is executing, your program is in the middle of an instruction. < 1470347620 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'd have to talk to CPU desgners about that. < 1470347623 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not really any better API that is possible. < 1470347716 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be possible to have instructions that check whether a page is currently mapped. and I could imagine triggering some sort of "soft" page fault as well [arguably madvise fills that niche already]. < 1470347742 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it needs serious effort and I'm not convinced it's worth it. < 1470347756 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checking whether a page is currently mapped has a race condition, of course. < 1470347763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless that instruction is mlock or something. < 1470347776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, never mind, "instruction". < 1470347782 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that, do you mean that the page can be unmapped before you actually do anything with it? < 1470347814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with Linux, you can have page faults on any memory access anyway. Code is loaded using mmap, and basically anything can be swapped. < 1470347837 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To put it simply... If you are working on a system where the memory is managed for you, expect the memory to be managed for you. < 1470347879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd like my RTS to manage my memory, not the kernel. < 1470347894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least I have to have it do that. < 1470347903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My thoughts are not coherent right now. < 1470347924 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm sure there's some way to coerce the kernel with some specific obscure features. < 1470347949 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "coerce" I mean "make it so page faults are not a thing, ever, unless you are using mmap for file IO" < 1470348000 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably mlock (shachaf mentioned it) goes a long way in that direction < 1470348022 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When what more is there to say? :) < 1470348025 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Then < 1470348073 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: rhetorical questions are dangerous on here... they tend to get answered. < 1470348108 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why haven't pigs started to fly? < 1470348111 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks out of the window
< 1470348118 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: physics! < 1470348130 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping pigs would start to fly. :( < 1470348152 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I guess a catapult would do the trick < 1470348158 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: or an airplane < 1470348232 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Delivery on receipt of one (1) English pound to the first person who walks to with a picture of a pig on an aeroplane - preferably piloting it." < 1470348246 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...would be what I was writing if I was living in the 1900's. < 1470348312 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the person would just fly the aeroplane there, < 1470348328 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously piloting it, < 1470348338 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then walk about it a bit so as to meet the second requirement. < 1470348350 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first requirement, not second. < 1470348377 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then they'd ask for two pounds just because they cheated the system. < 1470348436 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice to have asynchronous L2 caches < 1470348467 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperthreading < 1470348488 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, to some extent this idea is implemented < 1470348509 0 :Eritzap!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470348519 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can detect this by pinning pairs of hyperthreads so that each one wakes up when the other faults < 1470348589 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hyperthreads *are* a target for side channel attacks < 1470348611 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what the fuck 'hyper'-threads are.
< 1470348619 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not quite what you said, but this has real world security implications) < 1470348632 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: several threads running on a single core < 1470348636 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun thing: try truncating a file that's being mmaped by someone else < 1470348644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperthreads are tg < 1470348657 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: hyperthreads are when a single processor interleaves computations on multiple threads as if it were two separate CPUs < 1470348658 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how is that diffrent from usual multithreading? < 1470348669 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it causes a bus error in the process that mmaped that file < 1470348671 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: it's hardware-level < 1470348676 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: the idea is that each thread will suffer from latencies and not use all execution units, so two threads can better use the core. < 1470348679 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there even any way to detect that before it happens? < 1470348685 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: oh, an never works fast. < 1470348690 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: more traditionally, threads would be one per core. < 1470348739 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hyperthreads each seems to suffer from the combined latencies of two or more threads. < 1470348745 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: from a logical point of view there is no difference to normal multithreading (that's pretty much the point really). < 1470348771 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: they are designed to improve total throughput. < 1470348775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470348787 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will slow down individual threads (hopefully only slightly) < 1470348848 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: total throughbut yes, overall slowdown much more noticable. (At least in soft-hard realtime applications such as interactive A/V processing) < 1470348923 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1470348948 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's application specific. I care a lot about make -j wallclock time and then hyperthreading is actually a good thing < 1470349071 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in principle a kernel could reserve a whole core for realtime threads (reducing latencies) and use hyperthreading for batch threads (improving throughput). Is that done? < 1470349074 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt make mostly IO bound and that to mass storage? < 1470349106 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends. Recompiling stuff (after editing a file) tends to be served from the fs cache. < 1470349109 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think hyperthreading is just turned on by default without any regard of this issues. < 1470349114 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :make is mostly the-build-tools-it-runs-bound. < 1470349170 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mainly talking about make because it's what I use for parallelization of those other tools. < 1470349203 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux probably assumes that people who set up real-time systems know how to pin them to cpus. < 1470349251 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how to come up with scheduling priorities that don't lock up the whole system. < 1470350043 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470350314 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1470350359 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470350392 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470350474 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470350572 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470350576 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :76.1.72.128 at port 5138 << little telnet based chat im working on, it already has nicknames and so far only one bug i can find which might just be microsoft telnet being wierd < 1470350682 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc already is a little telnet based chat < 1470350693 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470350709 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik lol, im just writing it for fun < 1470351556 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470351603 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470351623 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a vague question. < 1470351628 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose I have a group presentation. < 1470351638 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I write a nice machine-readable proof that the group it presents is finite? < 1470351679 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470351699 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a decision problem there, of course: given a group presentation, determine whether or not the presented group is finite. < 1470351716 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that decision problem even semidecidable in either direction? < 1470351732 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm. < 1470351744 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To prove that the group given by a presentation is finite, you can get part of the way by specifying a multiplication table for the group. < 1470351749 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"presentation" is the thing with generators and equations, right? < 1470351753 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1470351762 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy to verify that the group given by the multiplication table has all the generators and satisfies all the equations. < 1470351773 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1470351786 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tempting to think that finiteness is semidecidable :P < 1470351793 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably wrong. < 1470351835 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've got it. Yes, it's semidecidable. < 1470351846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1470351851 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose that the generated group is, in fact, finite. Then there's a proof that it's finite, consisting of... < 1470351862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of equational proofs < 1470351884 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A multiplication table, where every element of the multiplication table is written in terms of the generators. < 1470351895 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... < 1470351904 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't have guessed wrong in the first place... from my theoretical background this should've been immediately obvious. lala < 1470351907 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each generator must be present as one of the elements of the multiplication table. < 1470351927 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And finally, prove that each of the equations implied by the multiplication table follows from the presentation. < 1470351934 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Righto. < 1470351979 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not necessarily a very concise proof, though. < 1470351996 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it settles the question < 1470352037 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm wondering how to write a *nice* machine-readable proof that the generated group is finite. < 1470352176 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a group presentation written in terse notation: < 1470352181 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss; tt; ststststst < 1470352185 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, lemme try again. < 1470352188 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss; ttt; ststststst < 1470352241 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to this page, that group presentation is for A5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_of_a_group < 1470352256 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But A5 has 60 elements. < 1470352265 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So its multiplication table has 3600 entries. < 1470352273 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470352335 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a "nice" way, then, to prove that the generated group is finite? < 1470352564 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can reduce the multiplication table size; you only need to be able to multiply by generators and their inverses < 1470352651 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/7721/what-methods-exist-to-prove-that-a-finitely-presented-group-is-finite < 1470352657 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps you can produce a complete list of suffixes that are each equivalent to a shorter one < 1470352677 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I'd investigate (Knuth-Bendix) completion in this context < 1470352717 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, prefixes are conceptually easier) < 1470352768 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois ________________ < 1470352790 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had not looked at the link when I suggested Knuth-Bendix completion) < 1470352908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the main point of doing completion would be to actually find equational proofs. < 1470352912 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tietze_transformations - maybe you could prove that a group is finite by using Tietze transformations to turn its presentation into one that's "obviously" finite. < 1470352986 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any finitely presented groups which are infinite, but where every element has finite order? < 1470353289 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470353345 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470353659 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470353663 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470353663 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 1m 20s ago: USPS is chatting with Postes Canada to find out why this package was returned to me. They'll get back to me by Sep. 8. Is this too long to wait for redress y/n? < 1470353675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hockey//Hockey is okey, but parsley is gharsley. < 1470353708 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one "easy" way to prove that a finitely presented group is finite is by showing that every expression longer than a certain length is equivalent to a shorter one. < 1470353730 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia quinthellopia. I'll be on vacation between September 3 and September 18 inclusive. Like, really on vacation. Like, on another continent. If you could resend after that, that'd be great. I'll be home at that time. < 1470353730 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470353775 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, consider this group presentation in terse notation: < 1470353776 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1470353792 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. aa? < 1470353799 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a group presentation. < 1470353804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think I pretty much suggested this < 1470353807 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. if you'd rather pick it up in person, come meet me at niagara falls on october 9th... < 1470353810 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: right. < 1470353839 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every expression for that group presentation contains one of these four subexpressions: aa, aa', a'a, a'a' < 1470353845 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each of which is equivalent to e. < 1470353846 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :niagara falls is what... 9 hours from here? < 1470353889 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probs. but it's at least twice that from here, so i'm doing most of the work here. besides, i'll be there anyway :P < 1470353898 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a good argument :D < 1470353927 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this is turning out to be a bit of a tricky problem. < 1470353937 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a different problem... < 1470354015 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :istm that "group presentation" doesn't have its usual meaning here... < 1470354042 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"m", hmm < 1470354070 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove that the additive group of the integers (characterized as the initial ring) is freely generated by 1. < 1470354072 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: aa means aa = e, or a = a^-1. < 1470354103 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an abelian group? < 1470354114 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1470354114 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, nonsense < 1470354124 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cyclic anyway < 1470354137 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That the additive abelian group of the integers is the abelian group freely generated by 1. < 1470354165 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: very different from a group of people working together to research, organize, and present, in speech form, some information to a larger group < 1470354192 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: AH, that didn't occur to me at all, thanks < 1470354214 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so what does "m" in "istm" stand for? < 1470354218 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memorialize. < 1470354220 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1470354239 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. "it", not "I". < 1470354263 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where I went wrong. (mislead by "istr") < 1470354273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or misled < 1470354292 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what 4la's are for: mizzling < 1470354309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meddling < 1470354334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is in mislington bile < 1470354415 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iimb < 1470354442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if I may believe" < 1470354916 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470355921 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470355990 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470356518 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470357013 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470357056 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: bye - be back in 2 weeks / bye - de retour dans 2 semaines < 1470357665 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470357762 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470357791 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MILLING CHICKEN < 1470358218 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470358365 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470358814 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470359070 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470359226 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470359935 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470360624 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470360631 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470360683 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470360756 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470361061 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470361341 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470361887 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470362036 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1470362775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470363049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell jafet I wonder how many terminals display that correctly. <-- it made the tunes logs show as one line in my browser from that point onwards < 1470363049 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470363121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least vim handled it fine. < 1470363254 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/IXrvECO.jpg < 1470363474 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470363953 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470364049 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plyorrkkwrstuhyz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470364145 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470364387 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470364387 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470364426 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470364863 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470365117 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470365529 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE! $H+H* < 1470365556 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^that does mericals to the logs of some bots < 1470365562 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's just not very nice. < 1470366203 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are mericals? < 1470369835 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470370107 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the eicar test files are in the blockchain somewhere. < 1470370129 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's probably already actual malware in the blockchain somewhere < 1470370209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470370297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470372269 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470373235 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470375211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49073&oldid=19995 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+3110) 10/* Computational class */ < 1470375291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49074&oldid=49073 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+1) 10/* Computational class */ copyedit < 1470375677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49075&oldid=49074 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-46) 10/* Computational class */ Removing repitition < 1470376944 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good < 1470376944 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 51m 34s ago: I wonder how many terminals display that correctly. <-- it made the tunes logs show as one line in my browser from that point onwards < 1470377095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470377867 0 :_miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470377952 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470379413 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470380121 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470380536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird when you stumble across an interesting author that you want to readf < 1470380549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One you've never heard of and that you haven't read anything by < 1470380557 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470380574 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470380591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then realize that they were big and important and wrote a book that has influenced the world indirectly (perhaps by inspiring a tribute work or a movie) < 1470380601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, I found the Andromeda Strain < 1470380617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Michael Crichton < 1470380627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the following (unrelated) book, The Terminal Man < 1470380633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I went to see what else he wrote < 1470380644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's the guy who made the book Jurassic Park < 1470380655 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470380977 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1470380988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_science_fiction_writers includes 9MOTHER9HORSE9EYES9 < 1470381029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A reddittor who publishes creepypasta < 1470381351 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out the entry barrier to have your own wikipedia page isn't that high < 1470381581 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470382987 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the american reddit, I presume. < 1470383014 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many reddits are there? < 1470383045 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1470383278 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't simultaneously apply the one reddit and ignore the other three reddits. < 1470383295 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470383454 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the time cube advocacy site no longer exists. < 1470383498 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like r/fifthworldproblems < 1470383584 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5035:3759:7fd4:cf94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470383848 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :r/baduk ! < 1470384629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i think i saw some link that may have been to a mirror the other day. < 1470384692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the 1986 film "The Transformers: The Movie", Unicron was played by Orson Welles < 1470384753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i guess that must have been his last role... < 1470384769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he died in 1985) < 1470384818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...weird. Perhaps he sent in a message from beyond the space-time continuum, as he did for The Juice Media when scolding us for treating 1984 as an instruction manual for the NSA? < 1470384844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love finding the wiki for a franchise and seeing that it's a MediaWiki instead of a Wikia subdomain < 1470384882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a film is usually made a bit before it's released, hppavilion[1] < 1470384905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yeah, that too < 1470384976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl genius: larana's dad, best villain? < 1470384983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, the wiki I found seems to be... unofficial < 1470384991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the information is legit < 1470384995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also does that count as nsfw around your parts < 1470385015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... well, "The levitation trick gets The Fallen all The Ladies at parties." < 1470386981 0 :hppavilion[k]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470386993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1470386997 0 :hppavilion[k]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1470387008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try to read Time Cube < 1470388152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. hppavilion[1]'s brain < 1470389074 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470389129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470389156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470389940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Refrigerator™ | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1470390108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470391074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1470391078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Cars franchise < 1470391084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Pope Car a Popemobile? < 1470391115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, he was actually IN Cars 2 < 1470391147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a normal car (but with a hat), but he does RIDE in the Popemobile < 1470391167 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta-cars < 1470391186 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...must inevitably lead to meta-meta-cars... < 1470391217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: How do we protect the Popemobile? < 1470391225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even want to know what Cars 9/11 was like < 1470391231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't make me think about it < 1470391479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, there's something called "Satanic Reversal" (I guess that 12:20 becomes 2012 or something?) < 1470391504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Soviet Hell, acid mines YOU!" < 1470391925 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how high are you right now < 1470392236 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably, he's... as high as the pope. < 1470392535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Higher than the pope's hat? < 1470392542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Define "high" < 1470392556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything, I'm the opposite; this is me when I'm /not/ on speed < 1470392570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, slightly sleep-deprived) < 1470392600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a new academic motto < 1470392606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Time makes scholars of us all" < 1470392663 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By whose definition of "scholar"? < 1470392697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: By the definition of "knows a lot about something most people don't know a lot about" < 1470392804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The meaning being that things which are just common knowledge today will become the stuff that only a small group of people have comparable levels of knowledge on in a few hundred years < 1470392924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody will care about the Trump presidential campaign a few generations down the road if he loses; most of the people who have even heard of him might wonder what his position was on funding the Apollo missions (that may be a slight exaggeration, but only slight) < 1470394400 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470394533 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOO torrentz :( < 1470395047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees no torrents
< 1470395358 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470395547 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470395642 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5035:3759:7fd4:cf94 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470395731 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470395747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abnf//Augmented Backus-Naur Form, an update on the popular Backus-Naur Form programming language, introduces support for "Augmented Production", e.g. `foo +::= bar`. The older `::=` syntax will continue to be supported for orthogonal-compatibility purposes. < 1470398579 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470399028 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: NULL CHICKEN < 1470399139 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Volume 5 – Syntactic Algorithms (as of 2015, estimated for release in 2025)” — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Computer_Programming < 1470399167 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it looks like this publication is going to be about everything except compilers. < 1470399973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If english is going to have Spelling Reform, can we also do Grammar Reform? < 1470400514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470400845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470400872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google trends seems to have changed their layout < 1470401128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Criticism_and_controversy < 1470401511 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470401511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1470401525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IOC tries to forbid anybody anywhere from making GIFs of the games during the games < 1470401546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it includes after the games < 1470401560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to inform the IOC that this is the internet, and they can kindly fuck the fuck off < 1470401813 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you care too much about these things < 1470402599 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470402603 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is well-known: http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/06/07/olympic-committee-trademark-protection/id=69739/ < 1470402945 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470403168 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1470405472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470406461 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470407848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470408078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470408141 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470408760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My GOD this week is going well for anyone who doesn't want trump < 1470408812 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw it's great in europe < 1470408946 0 :_miketo!?@? NICK :miketo < 1470409111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470409131 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just move here already < 1470409131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Wyoming, each house seat represents 526000 people < 1470409136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That's the plan < 1470409147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Montanna, it's almost 1000000 < 1470409177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I conclude that Montanna has the lowest absolute voter power of any state, as house seats are directly linked to electoral weight < 1470409228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course, when you account for swinginess, Nevada is the most powerful) < 1470409367 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470410410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The University of Arkansas has called 100% of US presidential races correctly < 1470410566 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, they are behind a conspiracy. It is clear. < 1470411335 0 :CodingBat!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470411419 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait < 1470411423 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was an octopus < 1470411433 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could predict the result of football matches < 1470411444 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they employing the same technique in arkansas? < 1470411523 0 :CodingBat!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 QUIT :Client Quit < 1470411973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470412765 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470413455 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470413589 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470414320 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470415087 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415433 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415465 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Client Quit < 1470415487 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415548 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470415555 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lsvbwkfofxnqqzum QUIT :Changing host < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lsvbwkfofxnqqzum JOIN :#esoteric < 1470417721 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470417927 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470418246 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470422982 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470424871 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470425145 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470425146 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan thanks for suggesting stackage-update the other day, it's so much faster than its cabal counterpart! < 1470425146 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470426625 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470426999 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :idiotsbelow < 1470427088 0 :idiotsbelow!?@? NICK :moon___ < 1470427206 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470427209 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470428052 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b99f:34ce:7b93:b008 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470428368 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470430050 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470431285 0 :pug!~quassel@189.26.70.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1470431290 0 :pug!~quassel@189.26.70.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1470431542 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470433382 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3810:717c:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470433415 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-efkeafpybyzslkdc QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470433429 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zhecisfhcodxazcf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470434006 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470435493 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3810:717c:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1470436173 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470437170 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470437200 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470437327 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470437605 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470437881 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still trying to understand how a cyclic bittag system is turing complete. Anyone care to enlighten me? < 1470438034 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1470438053 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470438056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1470438603 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470438625 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: If you mean bitwise cyclic tag, by virtue of being able to emulate any cyclic tag system with a binary alphabet, which can further emulate any tag system. Or so they claim, anyway. I certainly haven't spent any time thinking about it in detail. < 1470438702 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitwise indeed it is. < 1470439554 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470439810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tag system14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49076&oldid=12501 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+233) 10Convert to erences + add Minsky 1961. < 1470439835 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so you know, I went and enabled the 'Cite' extension. < 1470439843 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470439848 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470440373 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470441118 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470441572 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how many years did that end up taking < 1470441689 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Four and a bit. < 1470441701 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean since the wiki got started < 1470441744 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't remember when that was. But elliott said something about going to install it in 2012. < 1470441821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still wouldn't have done it except that they bundled it into the MediaWiki distribution a while ago, which meant installing it was a one-line edit to LocalSettings. < 1470442100 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe around 2020 or so I'll get around to Math. < 1470442444 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1470443585 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lsvbwkfofxnqqzum QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470443768 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ozgvzeqqdeikkzxj JOIN :#esoteric < 1470444166 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470444379 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: fizzie nailed it. BCT can emulate CT can emulate any post canonical system < 1470444384 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b99f:34ce:7b93:b008 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470444410 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone watching the opening ceremony < 1470444430 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the what now? < 1470444440 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The big sports thing. < 1470444452 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Here we open up these new box!" is what I thought of < 1470444457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest athletic event of the year < 1470444460 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an unboxing. < 1470444522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "Finnish people in London" facebook group, I know they're watching it in some scandinavian bar. < 1470444526 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have an permanent filter that filters out any and all sport news < 1470444549 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: impressive. i don't even know how you would set up such a thing. < 1470444573 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: nonetheless, the opening ceremony is not a sporting event, but rather a performance and a parade. < 1470444574 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: naah, it is more of an mental one. < 1470444579 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the performance is usually worth watching < 1470444598 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :my one exception is curling < 1470444671 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you tuned to sochi in 2014? < 1470444726 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, just found youtube (or other stored video streaming site) video of the curling < 1470444782 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470444794 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why curling specifically? < 1470444800 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you play? < 1470444814 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, just low to watch the absurdness of it < 1470444821 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/low/love/ < 1470444846 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yet you don't tune in for synchronized swimming or dressage? :P < 1470444847 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't beat the cycle sprint for absurdity < 1470444863 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dressage beats cycle sprint for absurdity < 1470444866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470444870 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470444879 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dressage is just horses prancing around < 1470444884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1470444887 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1470444910 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle sprint is game theory conspiring to make a cycling race about who can cycle the slowest < 1470444922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good < 1470444922 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 5h 29m 35s ago: thanks for suggesting stackage-update the other day, it's so much faster than its cabal counterpart! < 1470444925 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, back in the 1900s, for a year or so, motorboating was an olympic sport. boats driving in circles. < 1470444968 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I installed Extension:Cite hth hand etc < 1470445012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1470445021 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that lets you . < 1470445025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1470445079 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm advertising this to people I think might care about citations.) < 1470445103 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the game theory aspect could be negated by the invention of uniforms and bikes that channel air into the person behind you, if they would allow that... < 1470445492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470446131 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :brazil has a lot more singable and danceable anthem than average, i should think < 1470446987 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470447687 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that dnsmask looks familiar < 1470449164 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zhecisfhcodxazcf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470449551 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470449574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nobody will care about the Trump presidential campaign a few generations down the road if he loses; most of the people who have even heard of him might wonder what his position was on funding the Apollo missions (that may be a slight exaggeration, but only slight) < 1470449610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i hereby point you at "Diana: Warrior Princess" hth < 1470449652 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ewnsybqzumldxqag JOIN :#esoteric < 1470449663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: never played it, only heard the legends. which somehow seems appropriate.) < 1470449766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it my be so old by now that hppavilion[1] gets a meta-experience from it. < 1470449807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf hppavilion[1] has been idle for an hour < 1470449811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid silent channel < 1470449835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] if you ping out before seeing what i said, see the logs. < 1470449835 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470449857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1470449859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't beep < 1470449863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-oud < 1470449863 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 28s ago: if you ping out before seeing what i said, see the logs. < 1470449868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1470449897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you one of those silly people who only get pinged when their nick is at the start of a line < 1470449904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, welcome to the club < 1470449928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, i _did_ use it at the start of a line < 1470450033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, after this year they really need a new version. < 1470450457 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470450814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470450884 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ewnsybqzumldxqag QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470451179 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470451426 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:1160:ae65:343b:c511 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470451759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470451785 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470451920 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470452286 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-giixofedjhqlufbd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470452365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470452595 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sorting.at/ look how cool this is < 1470452598 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-giixofedjhqlufbd QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470452748 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-eqkhyqmicpmiwulo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470452928 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470453365 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-eqkhyqmicpmiwulo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470453841 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gsypaetbxlstehwh JOIN :#esoteric < 1470454268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470454299 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gsypaetbxlstehwh QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470454689 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470455180 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-biauttmkvenoxqwh JOIN :#esoteric < 1470455408 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470455470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( new rule: hppavilion[1] doesn't get to bring up mainstream news in the channel ) < 1470455484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1470455486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in . o O ( ) because i'm only tempted < 1470455486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1470455502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about tributarystream news? < 1470455505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you do a lot of it, and it's all depressing :P < 1470455515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah :P < 1470455666 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPL3 says "If the Program specifies that a proxy can decide which future versions of the GNU General Public License can be used, that proxy's public statement of acceptance of a version permanently authorizes you to choose that version for the Program." I think this might be useful for protecting business interests, although the proxy should always authorize it if they do not have a good reason not to, and if the company goes defunct, they should < 1470456259 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proxy feature in the GPLv3 is one of its best features. < 1470456312 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets her sarcasm detector
< 1470456452 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-biauttmkvenoxqwh QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470456513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it is of much use unless you are running a business, but for a business it looks like a good feature. < 1470456746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just omit "or later version" and omit the proxy too, but then it can be problem if there are new versions of GPL that can be good and then they cannot be used. If you do add "or later version" then the business does not have full control over the licensing of the software they are selling, and that can be a different problem. With the proxy, you can avoid both problems. < 1470456866 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470456894 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470456924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( can you be your own proxy ) < 1470456981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would expect so; I do not see anything that says that you can't. < 1470457155 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if you are a copyright holder, who needs a proxy? < 1470457160 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can dictate terms. < 1470457277 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case there are multiple copyright holders I suppose, or in case the copyright holder is dead. < 1470457364 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I assume the intent is to declare yourself as the proxy for your program so that you can control icensing on derivatives? < 1470457368 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*licensing < 1470457392 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Except you can only control licensing on derivatives made with the same terms, proxy and all. < 1470457412 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, it's likely that would be the case for a decent number of projects. < 1470457597 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470458210 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ouzlcfrsvujgfwdc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470458636 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ouzlcfrsvujgfwdc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470459128 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bbqoroizmlvbvvdz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470459606 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470461522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470464045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470470198 0 :Dr0xSmartassE6!~mu@unaffiliated/oxe6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470470978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "pre-haste" < 1470471498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll wait until it's more urgent. < 1470471762 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470472618 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470474391 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470474860 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470476072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want https://vine.co/v/edXbvrwdpgE to be made into a techno remix < 1470477330 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/761188320042823680/pu/vid/1280x720/0lw0LhCnZzpop7sO.mp4 sfw < 1470477801 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is this from < 1470477843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that tree grew fast < 1470478027 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the latest ending in the anime < 1470478698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470479237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a rumor that Matt Smith will be back on Doctor Who < 1470479288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Personally, the best thing EVER would be The Doctor regenerating... into (the appearance of) Amy Pond... but that doesn't seem likely) < 1470479315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the best thing ever would be the Doctor regenerating into the Master) < 1470479316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They did fairly recently establish that Time Lords can flip genders on the regeneration, so I'm expecting The Doctor to be a woman fairly soon) < 1470479371 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kehihogoakhfvqbx JOIN :#esoteric < 1470482250 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody can tell me what to look for if i want to find stuff about the _real_ mahjong and not these pair finding solitaire games? < 1470483294 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:1160:ae65:343b:c511 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470484247 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470485230 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470487854 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470488962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470489130 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470489733 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470489733 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 061200Z 28014KT 15SM FEW010 BKN070 23/19 A2965 RMK CF1ACC6 CF TR SLP041 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1470489912 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470490649 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kehihogoakhfvqbx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470493272 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: OTAKU CHICKEN < 1470496917 0 :moon-moon!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470497590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* 10New user account < 1470498714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:AshuraTheHedgehog14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49077 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (+565) 10Created page with "'''''Under construction.''''' These are '''all''' of my Brainfuck derivatives: == BF-M == Brainfuck with a memory cell. +, -, >, <, ., ,. [, and ] are unchanged...." < 1470498963 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't be proud of that < 1470499788 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470500053 0 :Dr0xSmartassE6!~mu@unaffiliated/oxe6 PART #esoteric : < 1470500119 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470501455 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF instruction minimalization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49078&oldid=33564 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (+234) 10Added my attempt. < 1470505054 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:4430:d6fd:a32b:d37e JOIN :#esoteric < 1470505388 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470505562 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470505683 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470506485 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470507918 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are betting at roulette in American casino and have unlimited time, and you have $1000 but you need $2000 then what strategy is best? The answer in this case is to bet everything on black (or on red, or odd, or even). But how will the strategy differ if you need only $1500 instead, or if you need $3456 instead? What changes if there is a maximum bet imposed, or if you are betting at crap instead of roulette? < 1470508010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I have all the time I need why don't I just put it into a bank account :P < 1470508119 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can we simplify this to a fair coin throw? < 1470508186 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, perhaps not... because that would make it a zero sum game, and as long as you never overshoot your target, you'll have a 50% chance of reaching $2k and a 50% chance of going broke, regardless of your strategy. < 1470508212 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just a simple expected value computation) < 1470508238 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"zero sum" is the wrong term, I mean expected earnings are zero. < 1470508377 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1500 is still boring; you can just bet $500 (on one of the 18/37 chances) all the time. < 1470508595 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for $2500, is it better to bet $500, then $1000, or vice versa? < 1470508637 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chance of winning is less than 50% regardless of what strategy is used. The game is memoryless, and you cannot use bank interest, other games, asking other people for help, comp bonuses, cheating, angling, etc. < 1470508655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have those good points too. I don't know what is best for $2500. < 1470508995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe you about $1500 if the game is roulette at least; but at craps I don't know because the betting is much more complicated. < 1470509073 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470509124 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure that these complications change much, although the odds and so on seem to be more confusing, and changing bets is sometimes possible, and even bets are also sometimes possible as auxiliary bets.) < 1470509153 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470509256 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the greedy approach wins out < 1470509650 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I get a 38.2% chance for greedy, and a 37.6% chance for the non-greedy strategy, of reaching $2500) < 1470509665 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1470509700 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming 18/37 odds of winning and 19/37 odds of losing < 1470509780 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :More strange restrictions than a maximum bet would be to require the bet to be a prime number of dollars. (This restrictions is not actually used at any casino as far as I know, though.) < 1470509831 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, to disallow any bet to be the same amount as any previous bet (also something that does not exist as far as I know). Or both restrictions together. < 1470510686 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470510852 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470511151 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 QUIT :Quit: Bed Time < 1470511273 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone using tarot? < 1470511309 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no tarot cards. I know a few (but not much) about it. < 1470511335 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Augure < 1470511345 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: c'mon < 1470511363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augure: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1470511367 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I know is that a standard deck has 78 cards, being fourteen in each minor suit (rods, swords, cups, and coins; these are the Latin suits, some are French suited), and twenty-one trumps, and one Fool or Excuse (also sometimes considered a trump). < 1470511400 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in some decks the coins have pentagrams on them; this is irrelevant, they are still the same suit of coins. < 1470511434 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470511555 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is 182 seconds idle it says < 1470511644 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Just type the correct output yourself if you know what it is < 1470511666 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sorry guys ah ah ;) < 1470511727 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augure: We are unlikely to answer your questions, but you can ask if you wish I suppose; it would probably better to asking someone else I think, though. < 1470511828 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net PART #esoteric : < 1470511836 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it did reply < 1470511846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O yes it did. < 1470511855 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it sometimes slow though? < 1470511869 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes it is fast, and sometimes very slow. < 1470511881 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it seems sometimes you get error messages that should not occur. < 1470511977 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's slow because it's sharing a host with too many other VMs... possibly doing stupid stuff like cryptocurrency mining, password cracking and the like < 1470512083 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1470512362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As far as I recall, HackEgo is running on one of those $35 for a life time VMs at Cloud at Cost... and overloading the hosts is pretty much the only way that this can be a sustainable business.) < 1470512386 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bbqoroizmlvbvvdz QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470512442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and of course there will be no people handling issues... abuse, VMs running amok (you're not supposed to have long-running CPU intensive jobs) etc. < 1470512450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1470512550 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should get your own computer that you can put it in? < 1470512703 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's one of those, yes. Although it's some higher-tier offering than the $35 one. < 1470512753 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2G RAM and so on. < 1470512778 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm already paying for lambdabot's VM (and doing it gladly, but I don't want to do that for two bots). < 1470512881 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1470512885 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-avccgjtjbxcnwohq JOIN :#esoteric < 1470513234 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same system is running the wiki as well. < 1470513493 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470513672 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470514427 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 PART #esoteric : < 1470517332 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470518161 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470518539 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we talk for a moment about the man who attacked a police station with a machete in belgium? < 1470518545 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fucking stupid is that < 1470518554 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a lot < 1470518576 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard is it to get a gun in belgium? < 1470518599 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's more about making a statement < 1470518607 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what statement? < 1470518623 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Gävle goat got torched one year by someone firing a fire arrow into it while being dressed up.. there's probably easier ways to torch it < 1470518635 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's kind of more notable that way < 1470518659 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he was shot dead before even managing to kill one police officer < 1470518674 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think of anything more inefficient than that < 1470518704 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe if you blow yourself up /in a desert/... < 1470518786 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :they dont have anti-riot-foam? (Basically uhu glue or equiv forced through an areosolizer) < 1470518809 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can i get a ton of that? < 1470518826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they want to die without too much police investigations? < 1470519151 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: could be a suicide by proxy thing, rather than poltical < 1470519190 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: hardware stores and general stores? Just take the areosolizer (must be of metal) of an spraycan, make a pressure container that has that plus ports for four of those sodastream/whipped-cream CO2 charges. Take the glue and put it in the pressure container, use four CO2 charges. < 1470519262 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should start selling it < 1470519351 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what to think of that suicide by proxy thing < 1470519358 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading about it for the first time now < 1470519519 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I've read the term somewhere, I didn't know it was born out of a religious loophole. < 1470519924 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 81 < 1470519937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 81: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1470520275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that I can somehow to convince them that the tin cups are magic and to trick them to go there just before they fall down and make noise. If they try to dispel it after they fall and make the noise, they will fail to dispel it, because the cups are not magic! < 1470520633 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470520670 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470520675 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :While in the prison cell, with no items or magic (except for a few short lengths of rope), I would have to figure out how to confuse them and lead them astray. < 1470521004 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470521045 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470521173 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470522528 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470523133 0 :Guest75937!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470523512 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470523935 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470524200 0 :Guest75937!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470525544 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:4430:d6fd:a32b:d37e QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1470525769 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470525988 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470527279 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1470527483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470527830 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ick my left cursor key has gone all mushy < 1470527835 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470527879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1470527919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anybody can tell me what to look for if i want to find stuff about the _real_ mahjong and not these pair finding solitaire games? <-- i assume boily knows, and possibly zzo38. < 1470528007 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also depend what kind of mahjong game there is many variants, such as Japanese game, or Chinese game. The Japanese game is popular in many parts of the world including in Japan. < 1470528059 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be sad if the japanese didn't like the japanese one < 1470528080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :improvements i'd like for freenode: to stop resetting the time on bans, and to _not_ reset idle time over pingout quit/joins... < 1470528082 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't "impact" the worst word ever < 1470528101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: all dinosaurs agree with you < 1470528112 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not that usage. that one is fine. < 1470528132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying they weren't impacted by it < 1470528134 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one, as a synonym for "affect" or "effect" < 1470528144 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would've guessed the japanese version is popular in japan < 1470528155 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying they were mostly not impacted, yes < 1470528162 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earth was definitely impacted < 1470528173 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which had an effect on the animals living at the time < 1470528186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it could be worse. they could have been effected by it. < 1470528208 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones who are alive now--basically were < 1470528218 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :molars can be impacted < 1470528222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION once corrected someone on wikipedia who overcorrected affect/effect
< 1470528223 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :educational outcomes should not be < 1470528256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think you missed the part where i misused "effected" hth < 1470528282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it works in a different sense, barely. < 1470528327 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i assume you meant in the sense of "to cause to come into being" hth < 1470528330 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*assumed < 1470528374 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can misuse afect/effect all you want, just don't replace them with "impact" hthem < 1470528388 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is my f key spasming today < 1470528421 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: keyboard gunk < 1470528494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small gunk civilization between the f and g keys < 1470528547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon they will spread all under the keyboard, but carefully learn to avoid the area right under the keys. < 1470528565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*learn to carefully < 1470528649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes his brain incorrectly corrected spasming to spamming
< 1470528668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit opposite in this case. < 1470528750 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. talking about spam, what do you people do with speculative invocies? < 1470528808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately, i don't get any tdh < 1470528816 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :request discounts < 1470528847 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and insist that i receive the services i'm paying for < 1470528848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess because i don't buy on the internet) < 1470528869 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually mail back an rubber cheque, in both senses of the word < 1470528869 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then threaten lawsuits when the service is not provided < 1470528888 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you writr it on an eraser? < 1470528906 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy selling me the rubber says its rather elastic payment method < 1470528946 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what an elastic payment method is when taken seriously < 1470528957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives Zarutian a medium low swat -----###
< 1470529577 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470529880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the Gävle goat got torched one year [...] <-- . o O ( have they considered using a different material ) < 1470529922 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've been trying to fireproof it with some spray < 1470529931 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think with moderate success? < 1470529940 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it burned down in the end anyway < 1470529969 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2013 As in 2006 and 2007, the straw used to build the goat has been soaked in anti-flammable liquid to prevent it from burning in the event of an arson attack.[48] The inauguration ceremony took place on 1 December. On 21 December the goat was burned down.[49]" < 1470529976 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1470530635 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470530907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wiktionary's audio play failed on me again. is "ström" pronounced with a short or a long ö? < 1470530919 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :short ö < 1470530930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, i'll add ipa < 1470530933 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long m I suppose, but I'm not good at telling consonantal length < 1470530966 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470530981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well afaik swedish is like norwegian there, either long vowel or long consonant in stressed syllables. < 1470531008 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: svo þú ert að læra sænsku? < 1470531099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: nah i already understand swedish well enough, i just wondered how the name "Ström" in the article about the Gävle goat was pronounced. < 1470531127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: um, that's not different, is it :P < 1470531138 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's the same < 1470531159 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like most (all?) names named after geographical features like that.. at least all I can think of < 1470531386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the wiktionary standard is sort of to not include consonant length for the (phonemic) ipa in such cases, though. < 1470531455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i have been trying to get a more accurate pronunciation because i've been learning some swedish songs, though. < 1470531499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most sounds are not that different from norwegian. < 1470531516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sj and a being the most obvious exceptions) < 1470531605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary's swedish pronunciation guide looks much better than the norwegian. < 1470531624 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what article is that? < 1470531634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Swedish_pronunciation) < 1470531656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the audio play failed for me there, too. < 1470531669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think IE doesn't like very short audio clips, or something.) < 1470531737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it plays, but cuts off nearly all of it. and then goes into some swirling animation mode. < 1470531823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_wikipedia's_ norwegian pronunciation guide is good, though... but they're inconsistent, and i almost got into an edit war with someone who changed to the wiktionary style) < 1470531849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only didn't because i didn't bother to revert back) < 1470531869 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, does norwegian have retroflex consonants? for rs, rt, etc < 1470531903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok all trivial except for /œ/ as the short ö < 1470531930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yep, most dialects (the exception being south western ones with guttural rs) < 1470531960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*r's < 1470532117 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :lolnickjoke < 1470532127 0 :lolnickjoke!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1470532143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470532297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: another question. is it common to vary "är" between /æ:r/ and /e:/ dependent on whether a vowel or consonant is following? i noticed a song doing this, but wiktionary only describes those as "clear" vs. "everyday" pronunciation. < 1470532322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wennersten's Det Vakraste fwiw) < 1470532354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*V < 1470532376 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, no. I'd use /e:/ in typical everyday speech even before a word starting with a vowel sound < 1470532394 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dé é inte [...]" "it isn't [...]" < 1470532406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i meant not necessarily in everyday speech, but in some intermediate style < 1470532427 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know < 1470532432 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1470532432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470532587 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470532692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this audio _did_ play right, probably because it was slightly longer, but only on first try :P < 1470532712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the pitch "anden vs. anden" example) < 1470532774 0 :Guest49807!uid7911@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xubvyqzbofztdjjg JOIN :#esoteric < 1470533094 0 :Guest49807!?@? NICK :hello__ < 1470534223 0 :elfh!~elfh@37-145-144-191.broadband.corbina.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1470534826 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our spam filter rules are holding pretty well :) < 1470534871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heaps of attempts a day ago < 1470534925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Instead of limiting the wiki to defence, I think that it should be equipped for retaliation and the occasional preemptitive strike < 1470534979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps we should r&d the ability for the wiki to invade the dreams of our adversaries and give them constant nightmares- and the occasional sleep paralysis- until they are afraid to sleep?) < 1470534990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Prefrigerator™ | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1470535102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't think this world can survive if people keep a general habit of escalating conflicts unnecessarily hth < 1470535125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It can if we crush our adversaries completely, to the point that they can never retaliate < 1470535215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the problem is that even after you win, your own side will re-split into a new conflict, precisely because you've become addicted to conflict. < 1470535229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hm... < 1470535236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps we can use religion to keep everyone in line? < 1470535260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that has a mixed success rate i think :P < 1470535558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: We'll include a subset that is compatible with Atheism to keep them(/us) on board- drop the dogma, keep a lightweight set of traditions and rituals and require that a solid 80% of the moral laws be maintained < 1470535672 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't force religion on everyone, either. < 1470535957 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :religion for some, miniature american flags for others < 1470536013 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not everyone live in United States anyways. < 1470536022 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470536026 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, not everyone does or should be same religious. < 1470536044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many different kinds, and we can learn from everything a bit. < 1470536461 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1470537101 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1470537242 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long time no see, how's the chat? < 1470537344 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1470537378 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything interesting in the last few months? < 1470537652 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470537925 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look in the logs and wiki and see. < 1470537938 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not on during 100% of all the time and do not remember 100% of the things < 1470538258 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should a library do in case of memory exhaustion? < 1470538277 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the sane behaviour? < 1470538320 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. do nothing, set errno to ENOMEM, return < 1470538324 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. abort < 1470538349 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. free all the data structures it previously allocated < 1470538369 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably can depend on what the function is, I suppose? < 1470538373 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by previously i mean other function calls, unrelated to the one that failed due to memory exhaustion < 1470538380 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a bignum library < 1470538488 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. this generates a random bignum number https://github.com/maandree/libzahl/blob/a02ba0b0602fb1d6caa5ce332a0c3483c3e4c4aa/src/zrand.c < 1470538510 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1470538512 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it fails it frees all the structures < 1470538525 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the ones used by other bignums < 1470538556 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just fail to see the point < 1470538582 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also fail to see the point < 1470538629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what would be the sane thing to do? < 1470538857 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be changed so that the return type is not void, and therefore it can tell you if it is OK or not. < 1470538879 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds reasonable < 1470539202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody ever written a constitution in the style of a man page? < 1470539236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course, to REALLY keep everyone in line, we'll need to also have people know that they prefer it this way < 1470539284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: of course, i don't think keeping everyone in line is a sane thing to aim for. < 1470539313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we'll discretely fund a rebellion- with our own people in charge- that will have the job of rebelling, but having all rebels live in shitty conditions so that only the most dedicated-to-the-cause people join and being sure to rebel badly < 1470539411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a little bit like 1984 hth < 1470539569 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470539613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If we want to go full-on bureaucratic hell, we can make the funding of the rebellion open and legit < 1470539628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maintained by the Department of the Rebellion < 1470539648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick question: Does the US congress qualify as a parliament? < 1470539688 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: bye < 1470540092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it did hth < 1470540133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that doesn't make the us have parliamentarism < 1470540491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The Wikipedia page for Parliaments doesn't mention it at all, and the page for Congress mentions it twice- the first time is "parliamentary procedure" which is probably just saying that it's in the style done by parliaments, the second time is "parliamentary privilege" which is just the common term for a thing /usually/ applied to Parliament members but that extends to non-Parliament countries in general (in theory, it could < 1470540491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably extend to an Oligarchy) < 1470540579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There does appear to be a distinction between "Parliamentary governments" and "Presidential governments", and I assume the US falls under the latter, but it's not inconceivable that a government with a parliament isn't a parliamentary government (or even that a country can be somewhere in between) < 1470540579 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470540732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway used to be in between between 1814 and 188something < 1470540764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the parliament got the bright idea to use our equivalent of an impeachment procedure to enforce parliamentarism. < 1470540811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, the Australian Government once shut down < 1470540821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although some restrict the use of the word parliament to parliamentary systems, it is also commonly used to describe the legislature in presidential systems (i.e. the French parliament), even where it is not in the official name." < 1470540857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Queen responded by dissolving parliament < 1470540865 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470540942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway's king cannot actually dissolve parliament, i guess it's one of the many features we borrowed from the us constitution. < 1470540949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the B1ood6od is here? < 1470540954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B1ood6od: I have some B1ood for you < 1470540986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( What is the government of #esoteric? ) < 1470541095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Surveillance state with an absolute oligarchy (like an absolute monarchy, but with more than one monarch that can contradict the others- with no proper mechanism for resolving contradictions beyond reversal wars and friendly agreement)) < 1470541099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470541168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Participation is involuntary while in the channel, and can be involuntary elsewhere if the oligarchs decide as such (though the surveillance state doesn't extend beyond the borders) < 1470541202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oligarchs can, of course, single-handedly introduce a new oligarch without the consent of others < 1470541208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm pretty sure I understand IRC) < 1470541232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it extends beyond the borders, we borrow intelligence from google hth < 1470541257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course < 1470541308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically there is a possible hierarchy of oligarchs, but i don't think there's any difference between the 3 currently active ones hth < 1470541343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it depends on chanserv flag settings) < 1470541358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The surveillance state can extend beyond the borders upon request by pooling state surveillance, and one of the major surveillors will respond to most queries on the drop of a hat and is basically the world's most powerful surveillance state < 1470541423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondmost, don't forget the NSA hth < 1470541431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, is that CIA < 1470541456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSA is the one spying on everybody < 1470541476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIA and FBI are still too powerful, but they aren't the ones collecting and storing EVERYONE's EVERYTHING < 1470541536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oligarchs are specifically equipped with the powers to- quite easily- deport citizens, imprison or execute citizens, promote to an oligarch or specifically permit an individual to break a state-mandated Period of Silence, and at will modify the small set of standing laws < 1470541618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While not relevant in #esoteric, many similar governments permit Oligarchs- and only Oligarchs- to modify the Universal Psychic Message Broadcast < 1470541629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in #esoteric, it's available to everyone) < 1470541673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite rumors, we cannot actually execute citizens, we need to ask freenode staff for that hth < 1470541709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can't you permaban from #esoteric? < 1470541717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that's more of permanent deportation...) < 1470541728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i thought. < 1470541750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric's oligarchs can even impose population control < 1470541815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, internet governments are horrifying < 1470541831 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1470541850 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when someone hacks the government and steals all the democracy < 1470541856 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever happend to the DAO < 1470541871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAO? < 1470541912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_DAO_(organization) < 1470542054 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, make Zenarchy. < 1470545342 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470545432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470545521 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bd7:fa7b:7282:18cc:272e:7710 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470545572 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470546020 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470546094 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470546168 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bd7:fa7b:7282:18cc:272e:7710 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470546214 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never did finish my lang < 1470547243 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470547728 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazyass < 1470547832 0 :hello__!uid7911@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xubvyqzbofztdjjg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470547975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither! < 1470547986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly. < 1470548503 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470549213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470549714 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470550842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just went to Amazon and searched for something < 1470550852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a sponsorship at the top of the results < 1470550865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SPONSORED BY ADMINTESTBRAND: Lorem Ipsum" < 1470550883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sit Dolor Amet. < 1470550906 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take 5 < 1470550954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It gave real sponsorships related to my search though < 1470550972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PETITION: Change the USA's motto to "Lorem Ipsum Sit Dolor Amet" < 1470551028 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell did you searched for < 1470551060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ... "My Little Pony' < 1470551081 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ... < 1470551084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the capital of the US should be moved to Blackacre in Franklin < 1470551730 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-woulogolwabgjuuf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470551892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470558426 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1470559112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470561032 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470563032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470564052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470567772 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470571998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* 10New user account < 1470572101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49079 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+2641) 10Pipefuck < 1470572412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49080&oldid=49079 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+581) 10 < 1470572485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:WolfgangTS14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49081 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+148) 10Created page with "== About me == I'm a developer, who really does nothing. I like JavaScript, and node. I like learning '''lots''' of languages, and making some too." < 1470572533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:WolfgangTS14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49082 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+13) 10Created page with "Nothing here!" < 1470572580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49083&oldid=49080 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+0) 10/* Multiplication program */ < 1470572862 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49084&oldid=49083 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (-14) 10/* Comments */ < 1470573201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49085&oldid=49084 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+32) 10/* The tape */ < 1470573449 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-woulogolwabgjuuf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470573453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49086&oldid=49085 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (-16) 10/* Multiplication program */ < 1470573502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49087&oldid=49086 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (-7) 10/* Computational Class */ < 1470573562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49088&oldid=49087 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+11) 10/* Implementation */ < 1470573664 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3874:f665:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470573858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49089&oldid=49088 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+36) 10 < 1470573967 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he likes js and immediateöy creates a bf derivate < 1470573971 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like him < 1470574021 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :immediateöy? < 1470574031 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, typo < 1470574035 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens < 1470574046 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you typo *that*? < 1470574057 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a german keyboard < 1470574086 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :l and ö are right next to each other < 1470574087 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit haèèns < 1470574120 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exacteöy (sic) < 1470574127 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone use ~ in pipefuck? < 1470574130 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit haüüens < 1470574132 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it useful for? < 1470574201 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i see < 1470574233 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is like f in befunge < 1470574244 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it is a worse befunge < 1470574271 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think their examples shouldn't use 4 at t0 and 3 at t1 < 1470574300 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, they can't be reached < 1470574304 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's fine < 1470574356 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool tho < 1470574366 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because i don't befunge < 1470574376 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1470574401 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have to learn c++ properly < 1470574403 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470574422 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, priorities < 1470574428 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is so responsible
< 1470574433 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol c++ < 1470574436 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn rust < 1470574448 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like the name < 1470574467 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ is like the worst language i could probably think of < 1470574469 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit of a silly reason < 1470574474 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :And C++ is horrible < 1470574512 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you guys implying that befunge > c++? < 1470574518 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how the first pipefuck example would work, if 'equal' means the same character < 1470574542 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: pretty close, but yeah < 1470574542 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :since as soon as it finds the first space, it will randomly choose a space to teleport to < 1470574561 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never finds a space < 1470574570 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: howso? < 1470574580 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it finds \ and goes downwards < 1470574590 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind me < 1470574598 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought the first code block was in pipefuck < 1470574611 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is..? < 1470574635 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's in brainfuck < 1470574648 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that first block < 1470574661 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I'm on an old version of the page < 1470574663 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION refreshes
< 1470574697 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say "the first code block" you should specify that you mean the one before the 2nd < 1470574700 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for clarity < 1470574706 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470574706 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1470574718 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really be more precise < 1470575236 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470575820 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470576399 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470577249 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470577273 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470577786 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470578545 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PACKAGED CHICKEN < 1470578866 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470579596 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1470579842 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470583452 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470585810 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1470587371 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ozgvzeqqdeikkzxj QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470587588 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-yrjwffbkjbljkcjg JOIN :#esoteric < 1470587892 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALMOST EQUAL TO < 1470587911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​≈ < 1470587919 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode APPROXIMATELY EQUAL TO < 1470587921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​≅ < 1470588021 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS UNICODE SO LOUD?? < 1470588151 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode small letter iota < 1470588159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0269 LATIN SMALL LETTER IOTA \ UTF-8: c9 a9 UTF-16BE: 0269 Decimal: ɩ \ ɩ (Ɩ) \ Uppercase: U+0196 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0390 GREEK SMALL LETTER IOTA WITH DIALYTIKA AND TONOS \ UTF-8: ce 90 UTF-16BE: 0390 Decimal: ΐ \ ΐ \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Dec < 1470588172 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ≅ is a reasonable approximation of ≈. < 1470588225 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode brakcet < 1470588231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+FE18 PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT WHITE LENTICULAR BRAKCET \ UTF-8: ef b8 98 UTF-16BE: fe18 Decimal: ︘ \ ︘ \ Category: Pe (Punctuation, Close) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Decomposition: 3017 < 1470588690 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: for compression reasons < 1470588699 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1470589042 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3874:f665:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470590805 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hoctkgcagbzpakwl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470591046 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470591107 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470591108 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470591663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470593094 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NEITHER EXACTLY NOR APPROXIMATELY EQUAL TO < 1470593104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470593164 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicodde nor < 1470593165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unicodde: not found < 1470593200 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode nor < 1470593202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⊽ < 1470593219 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode neither < 1470593222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2247 NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO \ UTF-8: e2 89 87 UTF-16BE: 2247 Decimal: ≇ \ ≇ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ Decomposition: 2245 0338 \ \ U+2270 NEITHER LESS-THAN NOR EQUAL TO \ UTF-8: e2 89 b0 UTF-16BE: 2270 Decimal: ≰ \ ≰ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ < 1470593249 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO < 1470593252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470593289 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO < 1470593291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​≇ < 1470593725 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALMOST BUT NOT QUITE ENTIRELY UNLIKE < 1470593729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470593738 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1470596346 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: pretty sure all the "neither" symbols are just some other symbol with a / through it < 1470596812 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598869 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598882 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470598882 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598887 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470598924 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598932 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470598932 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1470599395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470601673 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470601755 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48c7:e7b5:e8da:2e9a:906c:d85c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470601788 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining neither overlay < 1470602664 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48c7:e7b5:e8da:2e9a:906c:d85c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470602860 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470603121 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470603384 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470603562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF instruction minimalization14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49090&oldid=49078 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (-1) 10/* AshuraTheHedgehog's attempt */ removed a colon < 1470604028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49091&oldid=41646 5* 0312.161.214.178 5* (+127) 10add filesizes < 1470605020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:AshuraTheHedgehog14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49092&oldid=49077 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (+224) 10Finished table. < 1470605106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:AshuraTheHedgehog14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49093&oldid=49092 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (-7) 10Changed headers. < 1470605115 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:307b:74c9:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470605256 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470605915 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470606166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49094&oldid=49058 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (-1) 10/* Input */ correction < 1470606307 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470606324 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470607622 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470608859 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470608880 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:307b:74c9:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470608948 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470609079 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1470609145 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470609405 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:991a:8581:9e0a:8787 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470609781 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470609831 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470610360 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470610812 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470612200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470612372 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470612404 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470612523 0 :elfh!~elfh@37-145-144-191.broadband.corbina.ru QUIT : < 1470612674 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470613317 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470613695 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470613818 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:991a:8581:9e0a:8787 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470613980 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470614147 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:9f35:6b2d:6b5e:b78b JOIN :#esoteric < 1470614919 0 :feliks!NQm8T5AgE2@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1470615122 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616106 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1470616440 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49095&oldid=49089 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+1) 10Commens -> Comments. Comments section < 1470616490 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616515 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470616529 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :MoonyTheDwarf < 1470616560 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470616575 0 :moon_!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616597 0 :moon_!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470616610 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616697 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616901 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes MoonyTheDwarf
< 1470616924 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION jumpscares boily
< 1470617095 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION topples over in a formless mass
< 1470618160 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470618230 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor thing < 1470618316 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:9f35:6b2d:6b5e:b78b QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470618480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10blocked [[02User:91.231.140.16110]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds (anonymous users only, account creation disabled, email disabled): spambot; it can't get past the spam filter but it's rather spamming up the spam filter itself < 1470618680 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470618692 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470618780 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:5c1d:3a7c:b09b:48dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470618953 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How ironic < 1470619293 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470619434 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:5c1d:3a7c:b09b:48dc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470619805 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620117 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A CPU is essentially an abacus, no? You set a number on this row (mem location), another there, you operate on both numbers, you put the result on that row (register), you make a register of of other numbers (other mem locations) . . . both devices, abacus and CPU, are registers (registers of registers, ad infinitum); memory and a stepper processor. < 1470620205 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1470620271 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conceptually, elementary step-by-step processing, linear processing. < 1470620360 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470620368 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620411 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1470620670 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from processing speed and RAM capacity, how is a CPU different from an abacus? < 1470620724 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :derHummer: even the simplest CPUs have registers /and/ an ALU; an abacus just has registers < 1470620759 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arithmetic/logic is up to the human user rather than implemented in the abacus < 1470620959 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620959 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470620959 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620999 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hire 1,000 abacus operators ... there's your CPU. ok, 900,000 operators ... 200 million (unemployment is high these days). Point is that conceoptually / functionally, we still have the step-by-step processing. < 1470621052 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, or the ALU, rather < 1470621100 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm imagining what an abacus with an ALU would look like < 1470621113 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like, when you had enough beads at the bottom of one column < 1470621122 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd rise up to the top and drop one bead from the next < 1470621133 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, indeed < 1470621135 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a half-adder, one of the simplest arithmetic components < 1470621174 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any complexity could be implemented in a wire/bead abacus ... given enough care < 1470621194 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need a power source < 1470621196 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it's doable < 1470621199 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/complexity/algorithm/ < 1470621220 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the operator's finger < 1470621227 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you just end up inventing the Analytical Engine if you go too far along these lines, though, don't you? < 1470621399 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that; essentially the key is writing down the algorithm; then you give one page of the book to each abacus operator. But that's just talking the mechanisms of the thing. But the concept, the functional idea, is the thing. What else is different about a CPU---leave aside the electronics. < 1470621437 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a modern CPU, or a conceptual one? < 1470621447 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a modern CPU < 1470621456 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say an abacus is an excellent analogue for a set of registers < 1470621463 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the differences are all the things that aren't just registers < 1470621472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction scheduling, caches, and the like < 1470621473 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the concept informing a modern CPU. the von Neumann architecture < 1470621498 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does a CPU even have to know which memory architecture it's using? < 1470621523 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if it's using the same signals to communicate with code and with data, then it has to be von Neumann < 1470621528 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for its own correct funtioning, yes, probabley < 1470621552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in general, an old/traditional CPU doesn't need to care about the details of how memory works < 1470621572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the 6502 and old NES games; many of them had hardware which automatically swapped between multiple RAMs and ROMs < 1470621602 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploiting the fact that the CPU didn't care that it was connected to memory, just that it'd get particular responses if it sent particular requests < 1470621659 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the hardware don't matter; not as far as correctness of computation schema < 1470621687 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, to a certain extent, a system needn't /have/ a memory architecture, really < 1470621712 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining a device that streams values to a CPU's memory read port < 1470621713 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sliding beads on a wire is a "memory", no? < 1470621714 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a recording < 1470621736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's what's known as distributed memory, or as a register < 1470621742 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it isn't addressable < 1470621751 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, register < 1470621792 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :streaming values sounds like a punched tape, or ibm punched cards < 1470621825 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but punched cards were the memory storage of the day ... the "floppy disks", lol < 1470621877 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops ... afk ... bbl ... < 1470622713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_Parser_Framework#Example compiling this example takes several seconds... < 1470622716 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to learn yacc i guess < 1470622731 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470623173 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HONORABLE CHICKEN < 1470623435 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470623490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470623605 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470624239 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470624338 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470624423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470624646 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470624683 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e029:3138:51f2:e6c2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470624707 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470627882 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470628519 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470628785 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more complex the computation, the more powerful the computation. (solves more complex unknowns.) Sonds like a good axiom to come up with leading edge apps? < 1470628972 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1470628997 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) whut? < 1470629415 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only solve for real unknowns. < 1470629973 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1470629980 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470631689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470631690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1470631696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything eventually goes back to Bell Labs < 1470632815 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470633087 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470633165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to figure out Cthulhu's family tree < 1470633169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created infinite recursion < 1470633173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figures < 1470633313 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching the beach volleyball < 1470633343 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an actual difference in the rules between beach and regular volleyball? < 1470633438 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only there was some sort of encyclopedia that anyone could put this information on < 1470633442 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1470633445 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_volleyball#Rule_differences_between_beach_and_indoor < 1470633731 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470634267 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1470634340 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1470634748 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1470634831 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470634906 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470636769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470636876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470637599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logs are informing me that shit haååens. < 1470637601 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470637601 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1470638539 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470638823 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470639216 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :please recommend me a great pdf reader < 1470639249 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually use zathura which supports vi keys to navigate < 1470639276 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's being insanely slow with a pdf with almost 4k pages < 1470639314 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite being based on mupdf, and mupdf renders that file instantly < 1470639405 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh mupdf has vi keys < 1470639412 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i use zathura at all? < 1470639492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mystery < 1470639587 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh mupdf does very fancy transitions between pages when it's in presentation mode < 1470639594 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is so nice < 1470639608 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so useless < 1470639619 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll never use this, it just slows down things < 1470641005 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 QUIT : < 1470641385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think you just end up inventing the Analytical Engine if you go too far along these lines, though, don't you? <-- . o O ( every sufficiently overengineered calculation device is indistinguishable from a computer ) < 1470641507 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1470641544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my jokes seem to be repelling their targets today. < 1470641806 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :einstein developed a theory about space < 1470641810 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was about time too < 1470642460 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apostasy is not apostasy. < 1470642467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was relatively fancy. < 1470644417 0 :FireFly!?@? NICK :EvilFly < 1470645242 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470645478 0 :EvilFly!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1470645508 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470645765 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470646035 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470646388 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470646604 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470649612 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470649887 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470650018 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d0:7281:ad47:dab7:e878:73e8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470651792 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470653303 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470653390 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d0:7281:ad47:dab7:e878:73e8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470654072 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470655009 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470656057 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470656150 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470656814 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470657124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1470657284 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1470657309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what was it like when the time travellers had to flee the Morlocks, but couldn't agree on past vs. future? < 1470657393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1470657406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a tense situation hth < 1470657425 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION *THWACKS* oerjan. 0.95 shachafs.
< 1470657437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was hoping for more. < 1470657612 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION idly wonders where oerjan's standard timezone is currently located
< 1470657630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan < 1470657633 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Mon Aug 8 13:00:30 2016 < 1470657639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1470657644 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(personally I'm somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic) < 1470657644 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470657651 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't answer my question. < 1470657667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly enough, i got up at 7 AM today < 1470657690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those rare days of apparent synchronization. < 1470657695 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, synchornized for once < 1470657922 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e029:3138:51f2:e6c2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470658107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49096&oldid=8485 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+958) 10Need help with a Black interpreter. < 1470658354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1470659323 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470659438 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STRING CHICKEN < 1470659586 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470661147 0 :Akaibu_!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbnsovrochaaruzm JOIN :#esoteric < 1470661150 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hoctkgcagbzpakwl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470661151 0 :Akaibu_!?@? NICK :Akaibu < 1470661888 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470662574 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470662596 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:3fa:f0a7:dad9:b222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470663049 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470663243 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:3fa:f0a7:dad9:b222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470663812 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470663832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49097&oldid=41864 5* 03Mihip 5* (-1243) 10 < 1470663979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Wct14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49098&oldid=41871 5* 03Mihip 5* (+138) 10 < 1470664030 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470664205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49099&oldid=49097 5* 03Mihip 5* (+725) 10Added example < 1470664228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49100&oldid=49099 5* 03Mihip 5* (-8) 10 < 1470664370 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470664374 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470665403 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470665489 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470666727 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470666855 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470666954 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1470667207 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470667332 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470667404 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:ec56:414d:d698:a303 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470667455 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470668377 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470668573 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:ec56:414d:d698:a303 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470669191 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470670322 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-yrjwffbkjbljkcjg QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470670448 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jswrbldvgcytrckc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470671134 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470671194 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470671691 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470672047 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470673769 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470673857 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jswrbldvgcytrckc QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470673958 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-weafrkzldilhowil JOIN :#esoteric < 1470674490 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470674836 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470677609 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-weafrkzldilhowil QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470677687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49101&oldid=47311 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+245) 10/* Joke/Silly Ideas */ Emacs = Communism for Programmers < 1470677768 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jyazfxecbvtimxao JOIN :#esoteric < 1470677965 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470678715 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.1 - http://znc.in < 1470678753 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1470678958 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470679111 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470679387 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:d72f:bb1a:7580:c448 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470681990 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470683501 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470683552 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470683815 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470683848 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1470683892 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats new < 1470684129 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470684394 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470684814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundreds of trillions of human skin cells, just today < 1470685267 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470685819 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1470685827 0 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1470685827 0 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me QUIT :Changing host < 1470685827 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686126 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470686155 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686448 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470686503 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686892 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470686940 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470687251 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687394 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687448 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8ddd:f2ed:2807:3564 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687449 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:d72f:bb1a:7580:c448 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470687472 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687596 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, the GG story is branching out like a hydra. At this rate I will not live to see it finish. < 1470687651 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut the dire necks first < 1470687653 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :start from the top < 1470687655 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1470687693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470687712 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8ddd:f2ed:2807:3564 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470687713 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would but all they gave me is the "forward button", which is a very blunt tool. < 1470687819 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470688117 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470689975 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: GG? < 1470690034 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:19de:3326:b41a:6ca3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470690037 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470690250 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470690257 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470690327 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470691099 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470691145 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a6:4127:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470691325 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470691583 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:19de:3326:b41a:6ca3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470692149 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@172.56.14.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470692447 0 :dos!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1470692878 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1470693540 0 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470693826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470693975 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.148 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470694000 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470694042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470695239 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470695274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1470695331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it how YouTube (though it may be the fault of the YouTubers, but I doubt it) has it so, if a video is uploaded in 720p60 or 1080p60, you can't watch it at normal 30fps in HD < 1470695384 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a reason to use 30fps aside from smaller file? < 1470696386 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470698087 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470698343 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a6:4127:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470698455 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470699214 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470699824 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@172.56.14.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470700031 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BOY CHICKEN < 1470700153 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700232 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700348 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Local hardware might be incapable of rendering at 30fps, but could at 60fps. < 1470700365 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470700521 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470700583 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700616 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:9dbb:9ab6:826a:608e JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1470700809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drama going on in some of my online friends' lives < 1470700998 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1470701076 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does someone know something specific that changed from posix 2008 to 2013? < 1470701166 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470701229 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not off the top of my head, but any such changes should be minimal: 2013 merely had some corrigenda applied to 2008's text. < 1470701270 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1470701272 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1470701385 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:9dbb:9ab6:826a:608e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470701469 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470702499 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: "This 2013 Edition includes IEEE Std 1003.1-2008/Cor 1-2013 incorporated into IEEE Std 1003.1-2008 (the base document). The 2013 edition incorporates Technical Corrigendum 1 addressing problems discovered since the approval of the 2008 edition." < 1470702513 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: So you can just peruse the TC1: https://webstore.iec.ch/corrigenda/iso/isoiecieee9945-cor1%7Bed1.0%7Den.pdf < 1470702568 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(321 pages might not quite count as "minimal" in an absolute sense, but maybe if measured as a fraction of the full thing.) < 1470702612 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for that :O < 1470702883 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, I guess that's the ISO/IEC bizarro-universe variant of it -- that is, it's "ISO/IEC/IEEE 9945:2009 Technical Corridgendum 1" which you would apply as a patch to the "ISO/IEC/IEEE 9945:2009" base document, as opposed to being "IEEE Std 1003.1-2008/Cor 1-2013" which would apply to "IEEE Std 1003.1-2008". < 1470703240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is everybody so upset about Wrath of Khan right now? < 1470703287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470703584 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470703938 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470704047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: GG? <-- girl genius hth < 1470704064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very award-winning webcomic. < 1470704073 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought it was good game
< 1470704101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, around here that would be a TG game hth < 1470704143 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The text of the two documents are identical. < 1470704168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, Adventure, Romance, MAD SCIENCE! (TM) hth < 1470704245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh they have their own awards page < 1470704254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1470704278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG? < 1470704283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(t... t... t...) < 1470704285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least a couple of those hugos are not for GG but for comics back in the '70s... < 1470704286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrible Game? < 1470704288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tg < 1470704296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. < 1470704320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470704340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the easiest possible multiplayer game? < 1470704350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either phil foglio started _really_ young, or he's older than i thought. < 1470704406 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470704419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh born 1956. < 1470704441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It could be both. -e nerd points for use of exclusive disjunction for two non-contradictory possibilities < 1470704483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kaja is the same age as i. figures. < 1470704514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: OKAY < 1470704532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, Hufflepuff and Horned Serpent are actually rather compatible < 1470704568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact, I think that they're more compatible than any other Hufflepuff/H or H/Horned Serpent combination) < 1470704601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I forgot about Ravenclaw/Horned Serpent < 1470704613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't actually both, though. he was at least over 20 when he got those awards. < 1470704632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That doesn't mean he got the awards soon after he started < 1470704644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless a Hugo is bound to recency of starting) < 1470704694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But looking into it, I think Hufflepuff is still more compatible- hard work/dedication/honesty is MUCH more scholarly than wit/creativity/wisdom < 1470704765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well it cannot be, since he's _also_ got hugos less than a decade ago. < 1470704794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470704841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Phil Foglio is nearing retirement age < 1470704846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, US retirement) < 1470704873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When a student starts their education at Ilvermorny, they step onto a Gordian Knot on the floor in the centre of the entrance hall with large wooden statues of the mascots for the four houses facing them. The carved statues react if they want the student in their house." < 1470704886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, sometimes more than one carving will try to select the same student and so the student is then able to choose the house they prefer. This happens very rarely. Sometimes - as rare as once a decade or even a generation as in the case of one student - a student will be selected by every house." < 1470704893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is it possible for no statue to react? < 1470704947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why is everybody so upset about Wrath of Khan right now? <-- i dunno but maybe it has something with the new star trek movie(?) i keep seeing ads for? < 1470704955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*something to do < 1470704965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Khan isn't in it < 1470704980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would still cause star trek discussion... < 1470704993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there's a meme. i don't see much of those. < 1470705007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was kidding; people are actually upset about the gold-star Kahn Family- more accurately, they're upset that Trump insulted them) < 1470705014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i stopped following reddit's default front page < 1470705028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: *sigh* < 1470705039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right. < 1470705041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see much of trump either, fortunately :P < 1470705062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sticks his hand in the pain hole as punishment
< 1470705065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to have nearly stopped reading ordinary news. < 1470705088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that would be Dune not Star Trek, i think. (unless ST has one too...) < 1470705102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470705256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just done some checking, and the universe is still safe < 1470705270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you check < 1470705285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No company owns the rights to make both Star Wars and Star Trek movies- and, thus, no right to make a crossover < 1470705293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1470705304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank god < 1470705415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent, Firefly is also properly separated < 1470705416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that Star Wars canonically happens "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" that would take some doing to not break all continuity. < 1470705434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Babylon 5 hth < 1470705446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Star Trek has Time Travel < 1470705450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1470705454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's probably a Clone Wars episode with it too < 1470705498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think that Q(?) guy can transport people to way off galaxies. < 1470705519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't actually watched that much star trek.
< 1470705543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q < 1470705544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1470705558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voice actor for Discord in MLP:FiM < 1470705564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a mention of Time Travel in one of the Star Wars books < 1470705566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A canon one) < 1470705584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand the canon in star wars is very brittle. < 1470705585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I can't tell if it's mentioned as something real or just as a hypothetical < 1470705602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, but this book was made specifically to lead up to The Force Awakens, and is officially 100% canon < 1470705611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1470705713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess, when you have a SF franchise written by a lot of authors it's inevitable that someone will introduce time travel (and various other things) unless it's clearly and explicitly forbidden. < 1470705793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1470705805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(telepathy being another obvious case) < 1470705820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even then, Star Wars's canon (until it was formally disbanded) was set up so ANYONE can make it < 1470705840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ftl travel, of course, if it wasn't there from the start. < 1470705886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it had to be licensed < 1470705897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it still wasn't controlled by LucasFilm < 1470705902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I suppose they could reject a novel) < 1470706032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowhere in official SW canon has Time Travel ever been explicitly used; it's only ever been non-sarcastically mentioned once < 1470706062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if you tried to enforce hard scifi, the problem is that most scifi writers aren't good enough at science to know what is impossible. < 1470706080 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes he's slipping into very [citation needed] claims there
< 1470706158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does SW have force precognition? < 1470706184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right! < 1470706188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because backwards causality would be sort of the firsst step to time travel :P < 1470706193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely < 1470706196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep xD < 1470706211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you can send any form of information to the past, you pretty much have proper time travel < 1470706250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can just route a teleporter through the transmitter (though it'd be difficult, as I don't think machines can access the force- a jedi would have to sit at a keyboard hitting 1 and 0 as he hears it) < 1470706262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for droids, even simpler. < 1470706266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So it would take decades to get something to the past, and it probably wouldn't be accurate) < 1470706274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just transfer their mind. < 1470706279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1470706297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you can time travel but it takes a long time to do it, you risk broken-offset time travel) < 1470706338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could build a biological computer with force powers. < 1470706371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although by the laws of plot, it'd inevitably turn into a supervillain. < 1470706420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, true < 1470706432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd allow time travel, but it'd give the traveler a goatee < 1470706437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus turning them evil < 1470706438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1470706459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm and the good version would turn up in an evil past < 1470706486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they'd have to work hard to send each back to the right mirror universe. < 1470706496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, force prophesies aren't absolute and the future is always in motion < 1470706496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1470706506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sad trombone* < 1470706537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decision-forking Multiverses do throw a wrench in any time travel plot < 1470706566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're liable to get literally millions of time travelers from every future that discovers and uses it < 1470706583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is likely a lot because of the decisions that /don't/ affect earth at all < 1470706594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if the branching goes both forward and backwards. < 1470706602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me of the Ed stories. < 1470706746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470706746 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, if the branching is symmetric, then you'll statistically end up with approximately one future matched to your own. < 1470706752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1470706760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(waving hands) < 1470706772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, where's the centerpoint? < 1470706776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/where/when/ < 1470706783 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would there be one < 1470706800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well if it's symmetrical, it has to have a line of symmetry < 1470706800 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the centerpoint < 1470706815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's also translation symmetric. < 1470706829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every point an work as the center. < 1470706831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What we're saying here is that, when you travel back in time, you go to a unique only-for-your-future history, correct?) < 1470706832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can < 1470706837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470706869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but only statistically. < 1470706894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be a couple futures matching the same past, and vice versa. < 1470706910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it'd be a little awkward if there were none... < 1470706912 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo < 1470706930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome blockzombie < 1470706931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02blockzombie: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1470706953 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1470706960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although currently we seem to be discussing scifi time travel < 1470706972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo_with_a_Shotgun < 1470707004 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I was hoping to catch some context, maybe thought it was like multithreaded intercal where there may not be goto but there can be comefrom - multiple comefroms indicate thread spawn < 1470707068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blockzombie: hey that's a good analogy < 1470707085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i think we were having multiple comefroms _and_ gotos here < 1470707109 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1470707153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blockzombie: It started when I checked to make sure no one owns the film rights to both Star Wars and Star Trek, such that no one can cross them over < 1470707163 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1470707176 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If there is a centerpoint, it has weird philosophical implications < 1470707194 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't all time-travel movie plots doomed? < 1470707199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if all histories converge on one point before diverging from there, it means that Free Will is actually < 1470707206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: RELATIVITY, i said. no wait, i didn't, i just thought it. < 1470707216 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470707229 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470707240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1470707247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. well no, i wasn't imagine any centerpoint of that kind. < 1470707251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means that Free Will is an era-dependent thing < 1470707262 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think it may be < 1470707264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there would be multiple timelines crossing every time period. < 1470707273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and merging/splitting) < 1470707286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it were discovered by humans, it would have serious justice implications if it happened around today < 1470707303 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's worse than that < 1470707324 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our models of causality would be ambiguous < 1470707487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because the defendant's crime was committed 14 minutes before the convergence- thus meaning they didn't have free will at the time- the defendant is found "not guilty" on the grounds of Automatism") < 1470707491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\)// < 1470707495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen some discussion about free will and determinism over at scott aaronson's blog. he makes a good case that it really doesn't matter for morals/justice. < 1470707496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... now I have to go < 1470707503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1470707505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470707563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he's considered such a convergence, though. < 1470707600 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a subjective history of the time traveller? < 1470707633 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they live, then go back in time, then experience stuff, then "travel" back to some later time again? < 1470707646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's eir memory. i don't know if there's anything else, in a sufficiently weird universe. < 1470707666 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't memory only one example of a time effect on matter? < 1470707680 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isn't time merely a synthesis of such things? < 1470707689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok, there might be other traces in the body. < 1470707712 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory is not a special case, it's only important to the human whose memory it is < 1470707736 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the time machine would have scuffs on it < 1470707755 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yoghurt in the time machine's refrigerator would go off < 1470707764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1470707804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless of course we're in one of those universes where time changes affect your subjective past as well. < 1470707827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the yoghurt changes randomly to being spelled with and without h) < 1470707898 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya guys or gals have read Anathem by Neal Stephenson? There it is discussed that Narratives thread what you(s) experience. < 1470707918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope alas < 1470707984 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708067 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470708099 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jyazfxecbvtimxao QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470708188 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qktivhllkgiorgcl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708241 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48cc:cede:971d:ea2:93e4:d2ab JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708628 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708646 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708769 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48cc:cede:971d:ea2:93e4:d2ab QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470708912 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470709252 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in my list < 1470709301 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all time is frame-of-reference bound anyway < 1470709316 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so time travel is a discontinuity between one frame and another < 1470709454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is a black hole btw < 1470709469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :general relativity is not nice to global frames :) < 1470709487 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a person is in one frame and the environment is in another, then the person (and their time machine) joins that other frame, there is a sequence that is coincident in both frames. Then, when the time machine is fired up to return or leave, the frames are detached. The trouble is, frames are append-only so the shared history remains and they can have a shared future also. < 1470709512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and gödel found a famous solution with time travel in it) < 1470709542 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the time machine's frame, part of its past is in the frame of the environment it visited. In the frame of its past (say the dinosaurs), the time machine will be joined when it gets invented. So the frames have two contiguous regions. < 1470709560 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's enough to get you into trouble. < 1470709590 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely the laws of thermodynamics also go out the window? < 1470709613 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if they are amended, then they should "black hole" like you say oerjan. < 1470709625 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :filling all presents with all possible cases in which time machines exist. < 1470709631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah thermodynamics may be tricky. < 1470709645 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every possible time machine must exist at every possible moment. < 1470709656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you could just say that it's simply statistics + the fact the big bang point has low entropy. < 1470709666 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm.. < 1470709684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think that's the usual explanation) < 1470709697 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm saying that statistically, you can't get away from time machines obviously existing. Either they are unavoidable or impossible. < 1470709840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one obvious way to avoid complete fillup: if you need some machinery at the time you're traveling to as well, and it has limited capacity. < 1470709864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which also explains why we haven't seen any time travelers yet) < 1470709872 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1470709878 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could anything have limited capacity? < 1470709906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if it needs to use energy to actually rebuild whoever is travelling? < 1470709909 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any material required in target time must be synthesisable in its past < 1470709926 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470709928 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the material emerged from a past that must include now < 1470709954 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm does this hold if target time material is different to source time material? < 1470709982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this scheme you are not increasing the amount of material, just transforming it. < 1470710022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it all depends on having technology that can transform well enough. < 1470710221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if too many time travelers arrive, you end up with no material left to accomodate them (without taking some of them apart again...) < 1470710240 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470710250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this could still use a lot of resources. < 1470710263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sounds like an obvious invasion plot) < 1470710636 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are basically talking about something that is often called time gates, no? < 1470710649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1470710655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470710772 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470711613 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470711779 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470711858 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470712050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470712058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The felony murder rule is interesting < 1470712084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that if, in the process of committing a felony, you wind up killing someone (even with no intention of doing so), you can be convicted of murder < 1470712393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already know the american "justice" system is crazy tyvm < 1470712436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the rule would be ok if you only had _actual_ serious crimes as felonies. < 1470712457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :barely. < 1470712580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gah, why am i joining this discussion) < 1470713135 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :USA "justice" system seems to be more about revenge than dealing with crime or servere disagreement < 1470713179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :over at "the whiteboard": aww, and the date was going so well. < 1470713605 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470714143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yeah, that's us < 1470714168 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: who? < 1470714173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The USA < 1470714192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, Tax Evasion, Copyright Infringement, and Cheque Fraud don't seem like they should carry the weight of a murder sentence < 1470714214 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470714265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("You have been found guilty of attempted conspiracy to solicit the incitement of cheque fraud. The penalty is death.") < 1470714266 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: isnt it just usual that in the case of Tax Evasion that people are fined the amount of taxes owed plus some usury interest? < 1470714294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Still a felony < 1470714295 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470714362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It might be able to carry perjury as well, I think, depending on whether your tax returns are considered "under oath" < 1470714367 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in the case of Copyright Infringement I thought it was usually enough for people to advertise that they are not the author. (Copyright Infringement -> Misattributation of authorship) < 1470714407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, it isn't < 1470714444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: That's plagiarism, and isn't so much a crime (usually) as a violation of school rules < 1470714462 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: tax returns arent "under oath" if you include "This information might contain inadvertant errors, the recipiant should verify" < 1470714466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: For example, if you published the entirety of the Harry Potter books, even saying "By J. K. Rowling", it would be copyright infringement < 1470714471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Ah, yes < 1470714540 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right it is the Publishment-Exclusive right, sorry my mistake < 1470714547 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Plagiarism *can* be a crime, insofar as it is fraud. < 1470714558 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some stuff is public domain and is not copyright. < 1470714567 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, it's more complex than just plagiarism is itself a crime. < 1470714579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah, yes, that < 1470714591 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Also, apparently fraud isn't a crime, it's a tort. < 1470714596 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think even in such case it would still be plagiarism to claim that it is not public domain, but I do not really understand it < 1470714597 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yet often you are not allowed to declare that public domain stuff is by you unless it literally is < 1470714600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, so that isn't a violation < 1470714603 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. something you can sue someone for, not something you can be arrested for) < 1470714609 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, every word on the esolang wiki (i hope--would be a jerk move if people are copypasting copyright shit onto it) < 1470714617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah, yes, definitely < 1470714630 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Depends on the jurisdiction. < 1470714631 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470714643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advertising something as public domain when it isn't would probably constitute a license violation (so lawsuit-worthy, but not criminal) < 1470714663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, AFAICT, Public Domain is basically the same as a null license < 1470714669 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: most sane jurisdiction has it in their laws about Authorship to prevent someone taking something out of the public domain < 1470714712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be lawsuit-worthy, but there isn't anyone who could act as a plaintiff xD < 1470714790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It would be plagiarism to a school... but whether it could be punished by any non-employer authority is probably complicated < 1470714828 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, Cheque Fraud is interesting because an Cheque is a promisary note and also an instruction to your bank to pay someone. If you are forging an Cheque you are basically makeing an false instruction to the backing bank. < 1470714833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only real downside to claiming something isn't public domain is that someone might notice someday and call your bullshit on it, and people would stop pretending it is < 1470714855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It's really pretty much just theft < 1470714908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm really pretty conflicted on regulation < 1470714939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a liberal (~-0.2 on the horseshoe), I feel like they should be < 1470714948 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: now, here is a thing, if you forge an Cheque but stamp it with "INVALID" across it. Is it theft? < 1470714951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as a programmer, I feel like that's a stupid idea < 1470714954 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the different idea that you should be allowed to add a public and/or private key on your bank account; these can be used to digitally sign a cheque, as well as to access your account over the internet by SSH. But it is optional thing to do < 1470714968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ooooh < 1470714978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Let's go invent that right now < 1470714982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470714995 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and perhaps get OpenPGP encrypted statements in email and such < 1470715001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but seriously, a bank that lets you computer it is brilliant) < 1470715013 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So one field on the cheque you can write the digitally signed numbers. < 1470715058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ooh! And perhaps you could run scripts on it that will automatically turn you a profit (for free or a small fee), but the bank gets to take a percentage of any profits you make (but, naturally, they don't have to pay if you lose money :P)) < 1470715089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bank software is entirely written in funge, of course < 1470715123 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also include the QR code on the bank statement that encodes the compressed contents of the bank statement, so that you can scan it into the computer. < 1470715140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the programmer side of me feels like regulating banks is stupid because, if you bind it to the word "bank", you have the issue of people not calling themselves a "bank" but performing all of the services (with no regulation) < 1470715177 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked my local bank, they werent willing to run anything turing complete nor with any more access than read access to transactionslog. < 1470715192 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digitally sign and QR code feature both require a computer but would not require internet connection, and also would not require you to use a specific computer or their specific software. To access your account over the internet by SSH of course does require internet connection. < 1470715219 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: congrats you just reinvented b-cash iirc < 1470715223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: My local bank only lets me run programs that halt :/ < 1470715248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell whether someone olisted already. < 1470715259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1470715260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1470715263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The answer is yes < 1470715265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone did < 1470715267 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so something that is basically on the level of primitive recursive functions? < 1470715270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(me) < 1470715286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, it can be TC, it just can't run forever < 1470715288 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew about the olist for hours but didn't think to olist this place < 1470715307 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so, timeout limit then? < 1470715312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Nope < 1470715329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It's a joke < 1470715336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Because my bank solved the halting problem < 1470715340 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so bullshit in the same category as kyc/aml < 1470715353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they paid off the Turing Estate to lift the restriction, just for them) < 1470715369 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you bind it to the stuff done by a bank, it feels stupid because that prevents some probably-legitimate companies from existing because they might have an incompatible set of services (do enough to qualify as a bank, but also do stuff that someone might want but banks aren't allowed to do) < 1470715389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's my conflict on regulating banks < 1470715443 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what would you consider sane regulation for banks (of the cheque-ing and savings account kind)? < 1470715463 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470715473 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Basically, banks should have to follow the laws everyone else does < 1470715494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't tell you they'll hold your money then refuse to give it back, because that would be theft < 1470715546 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :they cant refuse to give it back precisely because it would be theft < 1470715578 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SSH access will have two main commands "inquiry" to tell you how much money you have and "split" to split some of your money into a new account; you can then send the key of the new account to whoever you want to pay (the send can be by internet or using other communications channels; it does not matter). < 1470715586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't violate a contract because that'd be violating a contract < 1470715590 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that is at least in sane juristictions. < 1470715600 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the account and on the bank and so on, there may also be additional commands such as "statement" and "convert" and so on. < 1470715610 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470715636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't break into your house at night, beat the shit out of you, insert a large object into an orifice, then snap your neck, because that would be burglary/assault/battery/rape/murder < 1470715644 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ya read what nick szabo has written? And btw that sounds little bit like the functionality of paymer|webmoney notes < 1470715652 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470715678 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your point? < 1470715694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: That's the stuff that I'm not conflicted at all about < 1470715740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any form of regulation that can be easily evaded with wording or that could prevent a legit company from doing legit things sets of my programmer to varying degrees < 1470715773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Wikipedia lists statutory rape under "Victimless Crimes" < 1470715775 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of regulation would that be? < 1470715794 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: re wikipedia because both parties are consenting < 1470715814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: True, but... < 1470715827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Pretty much anything, really < 1470715870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in theory, someone could want you to perform any service < 1470715874 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what would you think that a company cant do but is legit in your view. < 1470715885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Risky investing is one < 1470715892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's legit if the customer knows that it's risky < 1470715950 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know enaugh latin but I suspect it would be something to informed cavet emptor, no? < 1470715972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caveat? < 1470715984 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :caveat < 1470715992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1470716021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So preventing any service which is classified as a bank (by features) from performing a service that someone could want (and isn't going to victimize someone else) seems stupid < 1470716053 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "AS IS" clause of many software licenses, so to speak. (Also "WARNING THIS SOFTWARE HAS NOT BE CERTIFIED FOR AVIONICS, " < 1470716090 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you are basically entering the area of regulatory capture here. < 1470716115 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is also credit union, and that is also a kind of bank. You need shares in the credit union to have the account, but then you can access it from any credit union ATM (even if it is a different company) and not have to pay the service charge. < 1470716204 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay service charge for using an ATM? where I am from the banks just bill each other and settle in eather direction. < 1470716249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to pay service charge if the ATM and the account are both credit unions (they can be different credit unions though) < 1470716261 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I have heard numerous times (even from my local bank) to use credit unions in USA and not the banks there < 1470716278 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in Canada < 1470716296 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, same applies < 1470716302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I suppose we can just make a law say that the regulations can be waived by someone signing a contract < 1470716305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conflict resolved < 1470716339 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you sure you havent followed or played any nomics? < 1470716349 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I want to < 1470716357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I'm trying to get into Agora or start my own Nomic < 1470716364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I never properly have, no < 1470716374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am, personally, of the opinion that contracts should pretty much be above US law when applied to the group of people signing them, if they're able to reasonably consent to the contract < 1470716375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470716438 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you used that word "reasonably" which to me is a weasle word. (A kind of bullshytte as Erameas in Anathem would say) < 1470716462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, did I? < 1470716480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "reasonably consent" would be defined somewhere < 1470716521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, "not mentally ill (insofar as [...]), over 18, not intoxicated..." < 1470716529 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hmm.. are you familiar with the mouse trap from Agora nomic? it resvolvs around this very issue iirc < 1470716547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1470716553 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how about "is the only company providing this service for residents at place X"? < 1470716578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: How so? < 1470716606 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, you can either sign a contract that waiwes some of your rights, or you don't get, say, internet connection < 1470716619 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am nonplussed about the ISPs (usually cable) in USA. You mean there are exclusive franchises? < 1470716627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean, as in, if ONLY this company gives electricity in your city, they can't mix in "you sign this contract and we give you power, BUT we can kill you if we feel like it" < 1470716629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470716643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is an issue < 1470716660 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in the US there are often exclusive franchises. < 1470716675 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, several companies provide such service, but all require such a contract < 1470716711 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about if you can get service without signing such a contract, but it will be much shittier than if you do < 1470716729 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: never understood why that is allowed at all. < 1470716788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I don't know, probably that you can't force a company to provide internet to an area < 1470716790 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: then again USA real estates/properties have 'easement' which is bizzare to me < 1470716826 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-gnxzjjejdurajnwq QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470716829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if only one company is willing to provide wifi to a region, then nobody could get wifi at all there because you can't just have one company < 1470716832 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easements, though common in the US, are *very* much a common law concept. < 1470716838 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sure, but the converse should also be true: you can not force a company not to provide internet to an area < 1470716843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: So is this the Small Partial Mousetrap? < 1470716849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: True, true < 1470716851 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-rpjcgqlynywtmddh JOIN :#esoteric < 1470716860 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: only USA and UK has it iirc < 1470716873 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, other common law jurisdictions should have it. < 1470716876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: But if exclusive franchises are banned, then those are incompatible < 1470716890 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, easements are non-possessive, non-exclusive rights to property. < 1470716910 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: exclusive franchises are often made and forced upon people without their explict consent < 1470716926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Still impossible < 1470716957 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also you have situations where companies agree to not "tresspass on each other's territory" < 1470716958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you can't force someone to, but you can't force them not to, then if only one person wants to set up shop in a region, you can't make another person do it too to prevent an exclusive franchise, but you can't force the first person not to to prevent an exclusive franchise < 1470716968 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most notable in things like roads and their associated right-of-way: in common law, you can't purchase a road and bar someone access to their property via it, as they possess an easement on that road. < 1470716993 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well, there are sometimes 'limits' on properties but they are always listed in the deed of it. < 1470717025 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470717045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Maybe a different kind of contract would be necessary to waive rights; like, special, separate ones that are ONLY allowed to do one thing < 1470717069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't roll "I can murder you if I feel like it" in with "you get wifi" < 1470717099 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :what defines what can and cannot be combined? < 1470717112 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: exclusive franchise is enforced by law. I am against that. I want the possibility that a competitor can come around if the encumebenant is being nasty with their terms of service < 1470717119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Oh, no, we don't have that < 1470717131 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a general rule, how do you prevent loopholing, and if it's per-case, haven't we reinvented regulations < 1470717149 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It's worth remembering the history of common law as an outgrowth of the English feudal system, to try and make sense of WTF it does and how it works. < 1470717166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nowhere in the US where only one company is /allowed/ to provide wifi (I think); its' just that there are some places where only one company has /decided/ to do so < 1470717174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ...fuck < 1470717175 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially as relates to property law. < 1470717202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Probably you can only put rightwaiving in one kind of contract and normal stuff in another < 1470717222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: So the mousetrap is basically saying "if I say something, you all have to agree with me"? < 1470717231 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fairly distinct from how it tends to work in civil law. < 1470717242 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope. < 1470717248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Oh? < 1470717253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: What is it then? < 1470717286 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a mouse trap would be kind of "if you perform this action (or fail to perform it) then you hereby consent to be bound by this contract|contest-rules" < 1470717297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1470717309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So unilaterally-enforced then? < 1470717342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFJ 24 is rather interesting < 1470717377 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if it were allowed you could make an contract that bites an judge in his|her arse if they conclude an spefic trial in certain direction < 1470717438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes < 1470717489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: But what we mean is that it's a contract that you enter without explicitly saying you want to agree to? < 1470717502 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: one consequence of civil law regarding property is that service lines such as sewage, power and such do not have right of way through my property. (Though there is usually agreement for the service lines you request to have on your property to get those services) < 1470717546 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hence there are branches from the mainlines under the roads (which is on land owned by the government) to each house < 1470717611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Someone did <-- you probably did just as clog was down. < 1470717696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes the obvious, but is too far up in the scrollback.
< 1470717779 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: and the title and deed registry is extremely precise regarding where property lines lie. Sometimes resulting in stuff like where an corner of you lot (if it is on the corner of two roads) is owned by the goverment because they though that the corner of the roads would be more curved < 1470717826 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in one case the goverment sold such a corner to the lot owner for token price < 1470717829 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, in common law, while the deed registry is similarly precise, the actual use of the land can override the deed. < 1470717866 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: that's true in common law too < 1470717873 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the bit about underground, I mean) < 1470717881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470717885 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :in common law, property rights extend indefinitely downwards and upwards < 1470717918 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except insofar as easements go. It's possible for there to be an easement on the property where the service lines go through. < 1470717920 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: not so in civil law. Though there are restrictions on huge properties such as agriculture lands and such < 1470717961 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buuut it gets complicated there. < 1470717964 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(responding to the comment on the actual use of the land overriding the deed) < 1470717990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: clog? < 1470718084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I think you have it backwards < 1470718098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: If you're referring to a specific real-world thing < 1470718120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Hess Triangle" < 1470718146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The government used eminent domain to take Hess's land, but they missed that triangle, so Hess's heirs still owned that little spot < 1470718155 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: not so where I live. The property right extends upward to the defined aerospace floor (lowest that airplanes are allowed to fly) and down to the structural bedrock. So if someone digs a tunnel so far underneeth your house that the tunel might as well not be there structurally wise then you have no property right to it. < 1470718192 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I am refering to a spefic real-world thing and no it was not backwards. < 1470718220 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the road was planned well before any house was to be built < 1470718236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hess_triangle < 1470718239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That? < 1470718292 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the land was bought from a farmer adjenct to the city, roads and property lines decided and then sold in those pieces) < 1470718337 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470718337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, the Hess Triangle was owned by Hess < 1470718348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The city took his land to widen a street, but they missed the triangle < 1470718349 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not talking about the Hess triangle < 1470718365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1470718365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1470718396 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did the city take his land to widen a street? poor planning when that street was laid down? < 1470718403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Time < 1470718415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume < 1470718417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: When the street was laid, we didn't have cars < 1470718419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then we did < 1470718424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they needed the street < 1470718444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hess was compensated for the land, at least) < 1470718519 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the usual rules (where I live) regarding property is that you cannot buy a piece of it unless the property has been split up explictly beforehand < 1470718533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1470718538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under civil law, land is owned from bedrock to the aerospace floor by default < 1470718541 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same applies to the eminent domain) < 1470718547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can land be owned in 3D if requested < 1470718562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh god, and with lax enough timesharing rules, someone can own a 4D plot < 1470718563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470718585 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :not land but property, but only if the properties below have restrictions to literally suport the ones above < 1470718640 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can arbitrarily subdivide property here. < 1470718664 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: same where but you have to declare it to the property registry < 1470718685 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: same if you are combining two adjenct ones into one < 1470718712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: CERN should allocate a 1-square-centimetre space and sell it to people in planck-area plots < 1470718761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5.2438356e+55 plots per person at most) < 1470718765 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I think here you don't *have* to, but if you don't you are going to have a much harder time defending property rights. < 1470718795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: clog is the logging bot hth < 1470718797 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: precisely why you have to here < 1470719048 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470719158 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470719164 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the declaration only needs to be public in a way so the landregistry will be informed of it < 1470719214 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovely, I think a link somewhere in USA went on the fritz as both freenode and efnet disconnected on me < 1470719335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to introduce "The Pinocchio Bill" to congress: the text is simply "Congress shall not pass the Pinocchio bill" < 1470719358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any congressman who comments that it creates a paradox they cannot escape from will be immediately removed from office < 1470719507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no paradox if they don't pass it hth < 1470719544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Exactly, that's the point < 1470719570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So if they are too hasty and think that there is a paradox, then they should be removed from office because they don't understand even basic logic < 1470719573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...waaaait < 1470719585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pinocchio Paradox is broken < 1470719598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no rule against Pinocchio's nose growing when he tells the truth < 1470719606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the solution is that his nose does grow < 1470719738 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you are saying that the growth of his nose is the consequent of an implies condition which is "pinocchio is lieing", yes? < 1470719762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes < 1470719775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: But nose growth is possible when pinocchio is /not/ lying < 1470719777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, wait, wait < 1470719806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does pinocchio's nose grow only when he lies, or does it grow any time he makes a false statement? < 1470719809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls that in the original book, there are two kinds of lies, the other gives short legs instead.
< 1470719873 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if the latter is true then he can get a job as an science instrument though it would require a saw < 1470719878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Really? < 1470719881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1470719884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What are the two types? < 1470719891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and which are they bound to?) < 1470719894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Of course < 1470719898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure the fairy elaborated on that. < 1470719947 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Ellbereth < 1470720011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the original was, afaik, a christian (catholic) moral fable, don't expect it to follow programmer logic. < 1470720029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has forgotten most of it, anyway.
< 1470720052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i ever _did_ read it through. < 1470720057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh < 1470720065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I found it < 1470720080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Short leg lies are ones that people believe for a little while, but that will eventually be shown false < 1470720096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Long nose lies are obviously false to everyone EXCEPT the liar < 1470720096 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. I think there was some wizard fantasy where even an journey man could make an stone that gave the holder a burning sensation if he uttured a false statement. Most of the wizards thought it useless until someone started to keep a list of statements that he or she had tried and the outcome < 1470720148 0 :Ellbereth!?@? NICK :I < 1470720148 0 :I!?@? NICK :Guest73273 < 1470720153 0 :Guest73273!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1470720271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: And the outcome? < 1470720289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470720301 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :one story was about a theif had acquired such a stone and used it to map out the premises of a place he wanted to bulgarize < 1470720399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if pinnocchio's nose was just true/false, then it would have serious military applications: "Iran has a nuke", "Russia plans to start a war with the USA", "There is an active, serious attack being planned on American soil" < 1470720425 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470720466 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theif could only do it a few times before anyone with any wealth worth the risk cought on. < 1470720502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more terrifying is if it's the other way around- if Pinocchio says something will happen, the growth of his nose doesn't indicate the future; if he says something about the future is true and his nose doesn't grow (perhaps because it wasn't strictly a lie or because it has been prevented using LAZERS), then he has now set a mandatory future event that cannot be averted < 1470720565 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :those people just hired security that had the job to regularly use such a stone to ask if anyone was or had recently used such a stone to enquire about the contents of a specified residence or building. If so then valueable stuff was moved around. < 1470720605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the stuff has been moved around" < 1470720627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, once all knowledge is accessible upon specific true/false query, the world gets complicated < 1470720630 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw those stones were unable to say anything about the future < 1470720672 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you got the zen feeling of both the sensation of burning and not burning < 1470720756 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that was the entire point of the story < 1470720771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1470720812 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470720828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Was the zen feeling weighted? For example, if you say something that is true in 1 in 4 potential futures, do you feel 1 part burning, 3 parts non-burning? < 1470720848 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also the restriction that the enquries must be stated about objective and not subjective < 1470720865 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope, just always equal < 1470720896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: How would it respond to "The Prequels were decent movies"? < 1470720921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what if you make a collective statement without a qualifier? < 1470720932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Can it ansible? < 1470720954 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: by not doing anything as such is an subject enquiry < 1470720963 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the prequels one that is) < 1470720979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, it's pretty objective IMO < 1470720984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, no, IMF) < 1470721121 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "The blue stone was at time inside the second ring on the board", kind of questions? < 1470721145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Wat? < 1470721167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, like, if you say something like "Cretians are liars" < 1470721184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It clearly isn't subjective < 1470721192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's hard to pin it as true or false < 1470721210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't say "ALL Cretians" < 1470721219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't say "SOME Cretians" < 1470721229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically "Rule of Thumb: Cretians are Liars" < 1470721244 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot that the stones only gave the burning sensation for false statements < 1470721326 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the statement must be completely understandable by the asker to be as spefic as possible or nothing would happen < 1470721402 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that I am off to bed < 1470721407 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470721745 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470721831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody MMWed that an Olympian will learn Spanish to prepare for the Rio Olympics < 1470721841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then quickly learn their mistake < 1470721870 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470721904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://xkcd.com/246/ < 1470721929 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1470722316 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470722716 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just opened https://www.reddit.com/r/the_donald < 1470722717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470722720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a parody? < 1470722751 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470722926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/MarkMyWords/comments/4vcce3/mmw_on_obamas_last_day_in_office_he_and_his/d5xq10x < 1470723073 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunder xωx < 1470723158 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470723226 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the_donald is its own parody < 1470723241 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most people there are honest though < 1470723247 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's quite conservapedia < 1470723275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1470723315 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470723347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LBJ was sworn in using Kennedy's instructions for how to do mass, as no Bible was on hand < 1470723354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sovereigns would have a field day on that < 1470723761 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-rvtvbaeogxpcnfqt QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470724442 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470724714 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470725443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp/b_jonas: Make #esoteric fnordy again < 1470726498 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_poetry < 1470726507 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Perl < 1470727636 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470727716 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470728032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470728126 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470728390 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a regex to match lines that contain at least 3 different characters? < 1470728399 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470728667 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm not sure there's a succinct one < 1470728699 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minimal DFA requires |\Sigma|^2+2 states, pretty trivially < 1470728731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you put \n in a negative lookahead? < 1470728739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, \ < 1470728780 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :backreferences and lookaheads are not features of regular expressions hth < 1470728786 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone in #regex gave me this https://regex101.com/r/xW5iA0/1 < 1470728951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats alercah -----###
< 1470728996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oh right clever < 1470729056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the *+ for < 1470729083 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :super greedy < 1470729096 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the right term for that < 1470729121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, no backtracking? < 1470729131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you'd need that. < 1470729173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for that technique) < 1470729237 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's a cut < 1470729518 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called possessive quantifier btw < 1470730513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470731418 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470732779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1470732790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a game is updated, does the ESRB have to re-rate it? < 1470732809 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an esrb? < 1470732852 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :eric steven raymond's beard < 1470732970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Electronic Systems Rating Board, I think < 1470732983 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's decided, it's esr's beard < 1470733081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn esrb//ESRB = Eric Steven Raymond's beard < 1470733084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «esrb» < 1470733091 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :electronic steven rating beard < 1470733112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But IRL, it's the organization that says what games have too much blood or how bad it is that two people kissed < 1470733133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, let's be honest, gay men kissing is MUCH more likely to be bumped up than straight men kissing) < 1470733157 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'd guess how bad a kiss is heavily depends on the genders of the participants? < 1470733161 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1470733181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That's what I just said < 1470733195 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read it while typing < 1470733197 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :straigt couples only have great kisses? < 1470733198 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1470733207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 men < 2 women < man/woman < 1470733223 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because murica < 1470733230 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 3 men + 2 women < 1470733242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No, but straight couples are the least likely to offend Curmudgeons on the ESRB < 1470733246 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Depends on the graph < 1470733255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Please give me the proper digraph of kissing and I can clarify < 1470733272 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all sort of sticking their tongues out to touch the other five's < 1470733278 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err four's < 1470733289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weirdly, the kissing digraph allows both loops AND duplicated edges) < 1470733293 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, tongue < 1470733302 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll get nuked from orbit < 1470733310 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LinusTorvalds/posts?pid=6173274135056727234&oid=102150693225130002912 can we talk about this? < 1470733312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes < 1470733332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That is, they'll allow you to release it, but only as DLC on an Alien game < 1470733340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That cannot possibly be real < 1470733358 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's very good 3d graphics < 1470733428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No, my problem is with Linus Torvalds using Google+ < 1470733436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, which is the paranoid one?) < 1470733440 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's been using it for years < 1470733441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's rms, isn't it < 1470733442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470733443 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where have you been? < 1470733447 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's rms < 1470733450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1470733473 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rms is the one who has someone email him the HTML and prints it out, right? < 1470733486 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux 4.0 got nicknamed "hurr durr ima sheep" because of a google+ poll < 1470733520 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least he doesn't back up like boaty mcboatface < 1470733542 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's arguably not even the worst name so far < 1470733553 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_kernel_names < 1470733568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux for workgroups is by far the best one < 1470733570 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: heh, maybe a cockpit in some museum rather than an actual in-use plane < 1470733581 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's his name on it < 1470733584 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: :D yeah < 1470733591 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oh.. good point < 1470733688 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the jeff one < 1470733752 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :killer bat of doom <3 < 1470733783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esrb < 1470733784 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/ESRB = Eric Steven Raymond's beard < 1470733799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd esrb//s,.,, < 1470733801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/esrb//ESRB = Eric Steven Raymond's beard < 1470733825 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux 2.6.15 sliting snow leopard is older than mac os x snow leopard < 1470733835 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPLE STOLE IT < 1470733846 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUE THEM < 1470733851 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY MUST PAY < 1470734105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I really think they should've named it boaty mcboatface < 1470734166 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a voting for a design for a pril bottle (don't know if that's a thing elsewhere) < 1470734196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Got_Back#Synopsis < 1470734273 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://net-netz-blog.de/index.php/wie-marketingaktionen-im-internet-nach-hinten-gehen-konnen/ (german) < 1470734323 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they voted on a sticker for a bottle of washing stuff and a meme would've won by a landslide < 1470734426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel it's time for me to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix < 1470734611 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470735746 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ship prefix sounds like something you put in front of your forum nickname to indicate your shipping preferences. < 1470736830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As Theseus once said, "I like big boats and I always lie" < 1470737172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470737392 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470737545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470739090 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470739358 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470741672 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470742212 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470742402 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470743051 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470743112 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470743113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minsky//to Minsky on : /mɪnskiː/ To act as a Minsky machine on; of a program or programming language, to encode its entire state into the object as a single integer. < 1470745636 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470745705 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PARBOILED CHICKEN < 1470745982 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470746023 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470746467 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470746566 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470747735 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :evilybden < 1470748460 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470749985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470750090 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470751140 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an object-oriented minsky machine < 1470751154 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470751172 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470751252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Floater14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49102&oldid=42435 5* 03Zom-B 5* (-152) 10Source and binaries < 1470753582 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470754839 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1470755140 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470756028 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470756273 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470756468 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbnsovrochaaruzm QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470756486 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytyuanffpnnyqtmp JOIN :#esoteric < 1470757635 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470757653 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470757775 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470758466 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470758486 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470758992 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470760496 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470761593 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470761772 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470761946 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470761948 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1470764059 0 :evilybden!?@? NICK :ybden < 1470765623 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/kzzCkXd.jpg birth of openbsd < 1470767659 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to stop accepting patches from, well, from developers with a proven history of causing critical security vulnerabilities until our code reviewers can figure out what's going on. < 1470767743 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's start a new sound merger in English! The Darn-Damn merger! < 1470767816 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way rn won't just look like an m it will sound like one too! < 1470768016 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470768021 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone has a .corn domain? < 1470768082 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470768234 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.corn < 1470768651 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uni.co.de < 1470768736 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the startup for marketing the .corn domain would be uni.corn. a.corn would house the root servers. < 1470768915 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, another fun one would be .www domains < 1470768993 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.kayak.www < 1470769359 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1470770549 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470770654 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470770804 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470770830 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470771322 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470771840 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470771875 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470772036 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-avccgjtjbxcnwohq QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470772348 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kflabdsqdfxslotz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773133 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773187 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470773290 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470773403 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470773508 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470773534 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470773701 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773735 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470774359 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470774374 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470774539 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470774660 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3045:65a4:93aa:6ab8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470775250 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man people swear at cell phones a lot < 1470775288 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470775596 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1470775641 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We have to bring balance between the light and dark sides of the Force" "OK, let's make sure there are a shitton of light side users and absolutely no Dark Side users whatsoever, that sounds pretty balanced" "Yeah, sounds go- wait, what?" < 1470775870 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring peace by conquering everything < 1470775957 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/empiredidnothingwrong < 1470775958 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3045:65a4:93aa:6ab8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470775990 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470777876 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3868:83af:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470778279 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470778980 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470779918 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470780121 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470781547 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470781699 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470782412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470782442 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470783026 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470783081 0 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1470783644 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470784240 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1470784244 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1470784263 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1470784263 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1470784304 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1470784304 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1470784355 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470784481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470784777 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hashfunc () { local LC_ALL=C; printf %u\\n "$(( 64#9876543210${1//[!0-9a-zA-Z_@]/_} ** 2 ))"; }; hashfunc "hello world!" < 1470784778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10164816120765323521 < 1470784805 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bad is that? < 1470784963 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the fastest string hash i could come up with in bash < 1470784993 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean fastest decent string hash < 1470785010 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qhttp://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-pictures/how-to-reset-volume-mixer-levels/39b6e5f2-0ee9-463c-89c9-8257264294cf?auth=1 < 1470785012 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even does avalanche nicely < 1470785013 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470785013 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-pictures/how-to-reset-volume-mixer-levels/39b6e5f2-0ee9-463c-89c9-8257264294cf?auth=1 < 1470785434 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bad is it for a hash function if hash(i) + hash(i+1) is always an odd number? < 1470785553 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe okay for hashtables, unacceptable for cryptography. < 1470785587 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's to color the hostname in my shell prompt < 1470785632 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably okay then < 1470785908 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470785927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting for the glorious future when we can say "Greedo shot first, but due to the speed-of-light delay, there is no way Han's shot could have been specifically in reaction to Greedo rather than coincidentally placed" < 1470785957 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody would ever say that < 1470785959 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1470785983 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :han shot first case closed < 1470786025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Han shot first, but when the timestream was rewritten by the great Sacul, things changed" < 1470786060 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, egroeg sacul < 1470786101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: HOW DARE YOU DEFAME THE GREAT SACUL < 1470786118 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do D: < 1470786119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EGROEG" IS NOT A PROPER WAY TO REFER TO YOUR GOD < 1470786129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I know it's "george") < 1470786145 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a properer name? < 1470786152 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h156.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470786154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... Curious George Lucas < 1470786184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the Jungle < 1470786462 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470786641 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470786710 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1470787177 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470787295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470788371 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470788451 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3868:83af:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470788514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470788700 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470788705 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470788868 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470789073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kamisarakoily! < 1470789201 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:306c:898f:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470789203 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470789213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallopia < 1470789220 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boily is here? crehzeh < 1470789225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1470789246 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1470789319 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwiriwe oerjaneza! < 1470789334 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okinawan? < 1470789334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog seems a little unstable lately :/ < 1470789341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1470789386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another bantu language? < 1470789393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check... < 1470789399 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hth < 1470789400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1236) what? I just wanted a laugh... lol I need to stop using lol, lol just stop then, hth \ 1281) i don't approve of nuclear-free zones; without nuclei we'd not exist hth < 1470789440 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's a bantu language too. kinyarwanda. < 1470789458 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner. < 1470789462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's as close as i'm competent to guess, so googling -> < 1470789466 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's upcoming? < 1470789501 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should know i'm on school-year schedule now, which means i will basically never be online right now on weekdays < 1470789506 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :except possibly thursdays < 1470789510 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinyarwanda, it says. < 1470789515 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: tile shuffling! < 1470789519 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjabboily < 1470789520 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGHGHGH! < 1470789541 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tile shuffling < 1470789544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tile shuffling? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470789545 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you should just skip school to idle on irc < 1470789572 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: if i were a student, i would totes do that--and did < 1470789598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never IRCed during class, and nobody has proof that I did. < 1470789604 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles
< 1470789633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: damn. that one is hard. < 1470789635 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470789642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: okinawan is way off from the right continent hth < 1470789715 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you come up with these well in advance? < 1470789718 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quechua? < 1470789742 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and/or aymara) < 1470789772 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :peru is a cool place < 1470789774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no i just found it < 1470789782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *ding* aymara < 1470789796 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the people on the floating islands of titicaca < 1470789803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1470789919 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470789928 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the Uros. "Uru people" < 1470790143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tile shuffling/Tile shuffve games. ly addictie basis of many highling is th < 1470790145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tile shuffling» < 1470790226 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tile shuffling is the basis of many highly addictive games? < 1470790231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1470790269 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of addiction, I have new recruits to contact. < 1470790274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i used genuine shuf for reliability hth) < 1470790290 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what command exactly? < 1470790317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf < 1470790323 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't use _only_ that. < 1470790331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :split it up and rejoined in vim. < 1470790364 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. what sequence of commands and keystrokes? < 1470790375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inefficient ones. < 1470790390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1470790429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed by heaps of arrows and correcting for accidental autoindent. < 1470790467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other way, J followed by similar correction hth < 1470790505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess i could have programmed the former, the latter is a little more awkward, like joining in sed always is.) < 1470790719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afterwards i checked, and it seems that shuf doesn't have any option for splitting by length. < 1470790749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there's that command which i've never used... cut or something? < 1470790761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope. < 1470790833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note however, that i've now spent more time thinking about how i could have done it more efficiently than it took to mungle it half-manually. < 1470791238 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470792377 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470792432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470793048 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h156.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470793658 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:306c:898f:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470794901 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470795210 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470795645 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonnuitopia, boerjannuit! < 1470795652 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GRAVEYARD CHICKEN < 1470796629 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The future will likely be an interesting place < 1470796642 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if the big stuff on the internet stays accessible and doesn't get flushed out < 1470796654 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then peoples' opinions and beliefs will stick around longer < 1470796699 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can see /exactly/ why people wanted to ban gay marriage historically, because they came out and said it (and if they lied, the opposition called their bullshit) < 1470798472 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470799050 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytyuanffpnnyqtmp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470802820 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470803072 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470803176 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c168:2130:fede:5318 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470803563 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :calello < 1470803754 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c168:2130:fede:5318 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1470804090 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach me your obscure ways < 1470804333 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470804865 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you don't feel like sharing with the class < 1470804967 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1470805010 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand how this strcmp makes the sort stable https://github.com/landley/toybox/blob/master/toys/posix/sort.c#L262-L267 < 1470805012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote cale < 1470805012 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :osfameron says: I don't think he can read your fancy schmancy lowercase letters. ale: damn right < 1470805023 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls halp < 1470805132 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470805777 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470806647 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470807876 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's not claiming to make it a stable sort < 1470807895 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's saying it will give the same answer every time < 1470807902 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1470807916 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this results in a stable sort :o < 1470807955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what a stable sort means. < 1470807980 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what it means but the result is a stable sort < 1470807980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a stable sort means that if two elements compare equal, they are kept in the same order. < 1470807986 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i *know* < 1470807991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470807992 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: xx and yy are the address of the things. if we sort them according to their addresses when sorting them by their keys doesn't help, we'll always put the one that came first originally first again < 1470808010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1470808013 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah it sorts the addresses < 1470808045 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it sorts addresses with strcmp? < 1470808073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure this thing doesn't crash all the time < 1470808078 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the addresses point to malloc'd memory areas < 1470808090 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i haven't found a way to crash it yet < 1470808102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it's malloced as one array... < 1470808112 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470808121 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an array of pointers < 1470808124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought it involved sorting horses? < 1470808139 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but why using strcmp to compare addresses? < 1470808144 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: actually, xx and yy are char *, so i guess they are strings... i take it back i'm going to bed < 1470808151 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470808185 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like...what: *xx = *(char **)xarg < 1470808200 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1470808211 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comparison function for qsort is passed char ** pointers < 1470808217 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says... xx is a pointer to a char * < 1470808222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i have no idea where your pun is hth < 1470808225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1470808226 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes quintopia < 1470808234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: stable sort hth < 1470808237 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how qsort works < 1470808256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits shachaf with the saucepan for variation ===\__/
< 1470808340 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ printf %s\\n foo bar Foo fOo bAr | toybox sort -f | tr '\n' ' ' < 1470808342 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bAr bar Foo fOo foo < 1470808346 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ case insensitive non stable < 1470808350 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ printf %s\\n foo bar Foo fOo bAr | toybox sort -sf | tr '\n' ' ' < 1470808352 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar bAr foo Foo fOo < 1470808354 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ case insensitive and stable < 1470808475 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats toybox < 1470808514 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/landley/toybox/ this thing < 1470808689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: note that that part you linked to is performed when -s is _not_ set hth < 1470808706 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: looks neat < 1470808707 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1470808778 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :right :O so now i'm even more confused... they managed to make qsort stable in the first place, and then they make it unstable by doing that strcmp? < 1470808789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a fallback sort. < 1470808824 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so back to square 1, how to make qsort stable? < 1470808824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says in the comments "-sskip fallback sort (only sort with keys)" < 1470810049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl genius: finally! (but how will it backfire...) < 1470811926 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:20b6:c59e:f1d1:f751 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470814221 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470814489 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Client Quit < 1470816059 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470817114 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470817135 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470817617 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470817818 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1470818480 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470818481 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wikipedia's policy for pagename reassignment? < 1470818501 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wikipedia's policy for page topic reassignment? < 1470818520 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's a page named N describing a topic T1 that is currently the most relevant thing referred to as "N" < 1470818537 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a new, more relevant thing occurs after new information is created or released (T2) < 1470818556 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which T{1,2} gets N- the incumbent or the more relevant one? < 1470819257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles#Considering_title_changes < 1470819452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary_topic < 1470819602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: the latter goes into some detail. < 1470819706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: "it's complicated" hth < 1470819758 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470820035 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT : < 1470820172 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470821383 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470822323 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470822564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470825949 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470826387 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1470828930 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470829141 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470830164 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470830264 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470830535 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470831376 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470831377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone//drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1470831386 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drone sex < 1470831387 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drone sex has never been observed in the wild; in fact it's rare to see drones in their natural habitat because they are extremely shy. Experiments with drones in captivity have only resulted in broken drones, and a rotor stuck in the ceiling. We are still looking for a biological explanation for the ever increasing drone population. < 1470831431 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :symbiotic relationship? parasites? emergent organoïds? < 1470831468 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :agametic reproduction? < 1470831500 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nhellortti. < 1470831507 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. any idea? < 1470832281 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MISTRAL CHICKEN < 1470832430 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470832833 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470834214 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:20b6:c59e:f1d1:f751 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470834312 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470834576 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470836522 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470837824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49103 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+4616) 10Created page with "Ministring is an esoteric programming language with only two commands, operating on one cell. __TOC__ == Instructions == {| class="wikitable" |- ! Instruction !! Action |-..." < 1470838141 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470838318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49104&oldid=49103 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+118) 10 < 1470838388 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470839036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49105&oldid=49104 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (-258) 10 < 1470839777 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470840124 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470840219 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470840263 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ais523 < 1470840263 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1470840267 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1470840267 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1470840273 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1470840273 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1470840279 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help list < 1470840279 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :list [module|command]. Show commands for [module] or the module providing [command]. < 1470840286 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list < 1470840293 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1470840293 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1470840297 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1470840297 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1470840308 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping ais523 < 1470840308 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1470840311 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1470840312 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1470840383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49106&oldid=46238 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+90) 10/* MiniStringFuck */ new section < 1470840473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49107&oldid=49106 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+0) 10 < 1470841089 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld JOIN :#esoteric < 1470841626 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you need a botcommand to ping someone? < 1470841706 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember why i used jfs for my disk < 1470841720 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just seems so much less convenient than ext4 for so little gain < 1470841840 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@myname < 1470841840 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1470841852 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Really? < 1470841858 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to ping??? < 1470841876 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just mention someone? < 1470842987 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470844661 0 :SlayCom!~SlayCom@115.91.7.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470844781 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470844795 0 :SlayCom!~SlayCom@115.91.7.106 PART #esoteric : < 1470847015 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470847543 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470847929 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470848469 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470848850 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470849836 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470850254 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470851906 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Quit: Big gulps? Well see you later! < 1470851987 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852003 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852140 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked one of the zsh dev why assigning elements to an indexed array degrades very quickly to quadratic time < 1470852159 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected something like "we use linked lists to implement arrays" < 1470852167 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead i got this < 1470852169 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :llua | every index array assignment requires looping over every element to find the length < 1470852171 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :llua | so it takes time in zsh < 1470852341 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852592 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470852660 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwdploweqaqvroak QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470852679 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bceuspsatvyuresd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852699 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470853011 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470853299 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha :( < 1470853318 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds silly < 1470853443 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is length important for that? < 1470853584 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure... all i know is that they're hash tables and they're not sparse, so assigning array[1000]=1 creates 999 empty elements < 1470854523 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't necessarily have to be bad < 1470855232 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470858425 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470859103 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859177 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859235 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859509 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859532 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470859857 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470860128 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470860198 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: this seems like one of those situations where the time/space tradeoff is TOTALLY WORTH < 1470860260 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :go patch it < 1470860377 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they haven't done so it's because the underlying implementation is so rekt they actually feel like they have a good reason not to. doesn't sound like something i want to even stand near < 1470860483 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what is zsh based on? < 1470860508 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470860512 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh < 1470860525 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the question < 1470860536 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the color blue based on? < 1470860542 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it isn't a fork of anything? < 1470860544 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470860578 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know any shell that is < 1470860592 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcsh is apparently based on csh < 1470860614 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, okay < 1470860631 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :busybox sh is a fork of ash, dash is a fork of ash, mksh is a fork of pdksh, etc.. < 1470860659 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for dash i never heard of any of them < 1470860666 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welö, and busybox < 1470860763 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :open source projects are very prone to fractures < 1470860767 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know sh, bash, zsh, dash, sash, ksh, fish < 1470860785 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what about csh? < 1470860787 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they are, but i don't see much value in forking a shell < 1470860796 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can remember < 1470860796 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :csh used to be quite popular < 1470860836 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :forking means you get to rewrite the parts you hate and add new features that upstream won't merge and fix bugs that they don't care about or don't consider bugs < 1470860874 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, but in a shell? < 1470860892 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, is there even a thing you cannot configure in zsh? < 1470860909 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: the performance of array operations < 1470860928 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious things, please < 1470860944 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you might want a new and awsomer syntax like csh did < 1470860969 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what syntax did it add? < 1470860996 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it's not called zsh, then how can the XKCD joke be made < 1470861003 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it burns that myname doesnt consider the performance of array operations a serious concern < 1470861004 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it replaces sh's algol-based syntax with a more C or basic based one < 1470861018 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not for a ahell, no < 1470861032 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i want fast stuff, i use a programming language < 1470861041 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :later some of its features were merged into bash < 1470861092 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what if you don't care if it's fast, but just don't want it to be abysmally slow? < 1470861118 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use python < 1470861133 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use brainfuck, that has extremely fast array operations < 1470861214 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: there are optimized implementations that do, yes < 1470861252 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...if you define a tape as an array, most implementations have extremely fast array operations < 1470861300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except, of course, the zsh implementation, since that's what started this discussion of array operation speeds. < 1470861464 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'02t03h04e05r06e 07s08h09o10u11l12d 13b14e 15a 16s17c18r19i20p21t 22t23o 24d 25o 26t27h28i29s < 1470861497 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love people writing black on black < 1470861509 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i do that? < 1470861511 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470861526 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rainbow << ` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow \ \ changeset: 8744:3000f072eaa6 \ user: HackBot \ date: Tue Jul 05 05:02:42 2016 +0000 \ summary: ` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow \ \ change < 1470863548 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact, are there already computer-centric rituals?) < 1470863556 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I was hoping you'd say "console" so I can say "PC master race" to oppose your hppavilion[___] master race < 1470863568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1470863573 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat src/pikhqbow.c < 1470863574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \ #include \ int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L','?"\x0f":"",c);if(++a==6)a=0;goto b;} < 1470863577 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1470863580 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also yes, there are computer-centric rituals... it's called an all-nighter) < 1470863588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC gaming is a tenet of the hppavilion[___] master race, but it isn't a core part < 1470863595 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat src/orenbow.c < 1470863596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){printf("\e[1m");int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%dm","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;} < 1470863609 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right I did something insane that time < 1470863611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what are the core parts, hppavilion[1] < 1470863637 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say "falling asleep in the glow of an electronic device" is a computer-centric ritual. it replaces the former ritual of vespers < 1470863697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's not so much a ritual as it is a common occurrence that happens by repetitive natural causes < 1470863754 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's something that people choose to do on a nightly basis. what's the distinction < 1470863806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real computer-centric ritual is, when a friend leaves themselves logged into Facebook on your computer, you post "I'm gay" or one of the other sacred trollposts and promptly log out < 1470863811 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470863819 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rolls eyes
< 1470863868 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real computer-centric ritual is when you... uh, hang on, let me hook up the terminal-ruining random spam port, please wait... < 1470863937 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :..."nc gamemanj.duckdns.org 25561". Totally not a terminal-ruining random spam port, really! < 1470864343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching Darmok for the first time < 1470864371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny because the Tama are just like "seriously, bro. How do you not get what we're saying?" < 1470864452 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc gamemanj.duckdns.org 25561 < 1470864452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.duckdns.org: forward host lookup failed: Host name lookup failure : No such file or directory < 1470864469 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no such file or directory"? < 1470864473 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that was fun < 1470864601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God it's entertaining < 1470864617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they can translate what they're saying into english, but they don't know the context of what they mean < 1470864629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder if I could make an english dialect for this...) < 1470864644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trump, always" - You're acting crazy < 1470864748 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste src/orenbow.c < 1470864749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/src/orenbow.c < 1470864790 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc orenwatson.be 80 <<<"GET /allchars.txt" < 1470864791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenwatson.be: forward host lookup failed: Host name lookup failure : No such file or directory < 1470864795 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1470864844 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc 31.50.3.164 25561 < 1470864845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(UNKNOWN) [31.50.3.164] 25561 (?) : Network is unreachable < 1470864851 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470864862 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, orin, I think HackEgo's network may be down < 1470864885 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't just "no such file or directory", it's "what network interface?" < 1470864896 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dig orenwatson.be < 1470864897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: dig: command not found < 1470864942 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc 52.2.213.98 80 <<<"GET /allchars.txt" < 1470864943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(UNKNOWN) [52.2.213.98] 80 (?) : Network is unreachable < 1470864952 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b0bf:b214:27b0:fca6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470864978 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? help < 1470864979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help is on the way. We don't know where the way is, though. You might try `help instead. < 1470864984 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1470864984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1470865007 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe hackego doesn;t have internet < 1470865054 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://gamemanj.duckdns.org:25561/ < 1470865055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470865073 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1470865074 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1470865083 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it failed < 1470865101 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it said "No output." before I even finished < 1470865125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep "Everything is fine now." * < 1470865126 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: advice: Is a directory \ grep: bin: Is a directory \ grep: cdescs: Is a directory \ grep: emoticons: Is a directory \ grep: esobible: Is a directory \ grep: etc: Is a directory \ grep: evil: Is a directory \ grep: factor: Is a directory \ grep: good: Is a directory \ grep: hw: Is a directory \ grep: ibin: Is a directory \ grep: interps: Is a < 1470865130 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470865149 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -s "Everything is fine now." * < 1470865150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470865156 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it didn't download anything < 1470865164 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://orenwatson.be/speliG < 1470865165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-10 20:39:01 URL:http://orenwatson.be/speliG [538] -> "speliG" [1] < 1470865170 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a sec... < 1470865174 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat speliG < 1470865174 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :User-Agent: IrssiUrlLog/0.2 < 1470865181 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't HackEgo < 1470865207 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is probably partially an irssi script < 1470865214 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat speliG < 1470865215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet another spelling reform proposal. \ capital vowels are long, lowercase short. \ bat -> bat bait -> bAt \ bet -> bet beet -> bEt \ bit -> bit bite -> bIt \ bot -> bot boat -> bOt \ but -> but boot -> bUt \ some extra vowels use other letters \ bout -> bWt book -> bVk beaut -> bYt \ when a sound that isn't a vowel is held, it i < 1470865220 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a theory! < 1470865230 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally do NOT http://gamemanj.duckdns.org:25561/ < 1470865233 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA < 1470865240 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone - and I do not know who < 1470865248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is making requests whenever a URL is posted in channel < 1470865265 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an irssi script? < 1470865272 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK? < 1470865278 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called IrssiUrlLog/0.2 < 1470865308 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's from a different IP for each one < 1470865314 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are multiple people doing this, I'd bet < 1470865340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple people in this channel are running something to HEAD any URL posted in channel < 1470865355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no reason < 1470865368 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't do a GET, they do a HEAD < 1470865425 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to annoy one by redirecting it < 1470865456 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not really, the URLs are getting a bit much < 1470865527 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1470865531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1470865568 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls speliG < 1470865569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access speliG: No such file or directory < 1470865574 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1470865744 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why unicode has fffiflffifflſtst but no ct ligature < 1470865757 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1470865993 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the... the ligatures... my head... < 1470866091 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470866698 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ʣʤʥʦʧʨʩʪʫ < 1470866703 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those also exist < 1470866709 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's head explodes
< 1470866750 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how to confuse an Amiga user: unicodeSupport.ʫh) < 1470866873 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ʪ ƚ < 1470866873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ʪ: not found < 1470867216 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: are you aware of the ㍲㎎ square unit chars, like ㍴, ㎈, ㎉? < 1470867218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867277 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867280 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㍲㎎ is dalton nanograms < 1470867296 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470867427 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎈ories < 1470867441 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba㍴ < 1470867552 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867573 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:384a:5883:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470867844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backing up in a loop < 1470868170 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470869031 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470869680 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470869872 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470869913 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470869915 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470869916 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 102100Z 21014G24KT 30SM FEW050TCU SCT080 32/20 A2997 RMK TCU2AC1 SLP150 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1470869918 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470869941 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470869948 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 is too damn high. < 1470870102 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: itym too ㍲㎎ high < 1470870106 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1470870106 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 102150Z AUTO VRB01KT 9999 -SHRA FEW009 BKN060 11/10 Q1023 < 1470870128 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :much more pleasant :) < 1470870139 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYB < 1470870140 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYB 102100Z 34009G18KT 270V360 30SM SCT055 BKN090 BKN260 26/20 A3002 RMK CU4AC2CI1 SH E SLP166 DENSITY ALT 2600FT < 1470870161 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1470870161 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 102100Z 28009G15KT 260V330 15SM SCT080 BKN250 35/15 A3002 RMK AC3CI2 SLP163 DENSITY ALT 2800FT < 1470870173 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not make sense < 1470870263 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470870294 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470870358 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellorin! shed your slashes for summer? < 1470870371 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. for once I envy your weather. < 1470870388 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470870599 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470870773 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470871025 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470871458 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470872406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I live, like, a half mile from an airport, but you never check my weather ;-; < 1470872438 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! sorry, I don't know which airport you are weathered at :( < 1470872453 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or you told me, and I forgot. even more impardonabler.) < 1470872533 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB < 1470872534 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 102220Z AUTO 18003KT 9999 FEW038/// BKN055/// OVC066/// 11/08 Q1005 < 1470873683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470874665 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470874742 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBOS < 1470874742 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 102254Z 21008KT 10SM FEW017 SCT036 BKN070 BKN220 26/24 A3008 RMK AO2 RAB23E49 SLP185 P0002 T02560239 < 1470874750 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So humid. < 1470874753 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470874999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470875008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW Hippie Vans are complicated < 1470875043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Volkswagen Transporter (Hippie Van) is sometimes referred to as the "Type 2" because of its factory designation (Type 1 was the Beetle/slugbug) < 1470875053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have been three versions of the Type 2 < 1470875065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3 (yeah, this is going to get confusing) < 1470875114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T2 came in two generations- T2a ("early bay") and T2b ("late bay") < 1470875122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T2b is the one without the split winshield < 1470875158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A T2c was also sold in South Africa for a while (it may still be, I'm not sure) < 1470875165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference being... the roof is 4 inches higher < 1470875193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are now the Type 3, Type 4, Type 5, and the modern Type 6 < 1470875218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the T4 is where it stops being recognizable < 1470875229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the engine compartment is forward < 1470875241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T5 doesn't even look like the same model any more < 1470875286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also pickup variants, but we do not speak of those < 1470875307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does this make me a hippie scholar now? Can I get a PhD in hippiology?) < 1470875312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dr-man hppavilion[1]) < 1470875453 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470875478 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470875508 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470875612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470875642 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470875932 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470875933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cube//Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. < 1470875957 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess b_jonas, with oerjan overtones. < 1470875963 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/cube < 1470875965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e int-e ais523 oerjan < 1470875971 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1470877052 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470877506 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470877545 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470877743 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid disney.com redirects me to disney.it if i enable js < 1470877749 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i don't, i can't play videos < 1470877805 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. disney.it doesn't work? < 1470877816 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely all disney's videos are on youtube < 1470877822 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't seem to have have anything about moana as of now < 1470877843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that because moana is a well known italian porn star/politician < 1470877851 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470877866 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470877883 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the film will be called oceania in italy and several other countries in eu < 1470877896 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and disney.it got nothing about it yet < 1470878137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470878163 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:384a:5883:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470878289 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.disney.com/?intoverride=true yeeah < 1470878292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : darn. <-- *MWAHAHA*hoily. < 1470878618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gørjand kveld < 1470879073 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470879081 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome byteflame < 1470879082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04byteflame: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1470879118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470879420 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome hppavilion[1] < 1470879422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09hppavilion[1]: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1470879726 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470879801 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:309c:c3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470879967 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470880840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, he just sent those email messages. < 1470880852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh wong rindwow < 1470881076 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470881670 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there such a thing as continuous chess? < 1470881767 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elaborate < 1470881772 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont be esoteric < 1470881819 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(; < 1470881837 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checkmately mapoles moonythedwarf
< 1470881863 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1470881867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote glurk < 1470881868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :678) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. Glurk. < 1470881868 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps boily with a 4r8a9i11n13b17o26w trout
< 1470881878 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`d20 < 1470881880 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: d20: not found < 1470881883 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh... < 1470881887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1470881887 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 18 < 1470881888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that was from a previous continuous chess experiment hth < 1470881895 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I dodged. < 1470881896 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that how the centre of mass thing started < 1470881901 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1470881903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hm maybe. < 1470881907 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps boily with a big red brick
< 1470881912 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to do a sleep check... < 1470881917 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz don't ask me to explain continuous chess again, i need to go to bed < 1470881925 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PROCEDURAL CHICKEN < 1470882024 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470882091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/d20//echo lambdabot: d20 < 1470882093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/d20 < 1470882094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`d20 < 1470882095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: d20 < 1470882099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope < 1470882105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1470882112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/d20//echo d20 < 1470882113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/d20 < 1470882117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`d20 < 1470882118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1470882118 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: 14 < 1470882140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d20+d2 < 1470882140 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 47 + 2 => 49 < 1470882202 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1 < 1470882202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 1 < 1470882243 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470882245 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d0 < 1470882252 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d2 < 1470882252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 2 < 1470882257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1 < 1470882257 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 < 1470882262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1*10+2*5 < 1470882262 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 * 10 + 2 * 5 => 20 < 1470882296 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4*d20+4d20 < 1470882296 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 4 * 6 + 29 => 53 < 1470882305 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1470882331 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4(d20+d2) < 1470882352 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6d17 + 13d2 + 1d53 < 1470882352 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: 50 + 22 + 22 => 94 < 1470882416 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d-20 < 1470882419 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1470882470 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-d5 < 1470882483 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d20-3 < 1470882483 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 51 - 3 => 48 < 1470882491 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d20-3d2 < 1470882491 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 52 - (2+1+2) => 47 < 1470882502 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1470882517 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-d5 < 1470882518 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 0 - 5 => -5 < 1470882534 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps myname with a big red brick
< 1470882546 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :veto < 1470882701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d0*(2+2) < 1470882704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1470882706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470882711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1*(2+2) < 1470882711 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 * (2 + 2) => 4 < 1470882721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d5*d6 < 1470882721 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 5 * 3 => 15 < 1470882739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d5^d6 < 1470882747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISAPPOINT < 1470882776 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d5%d6 < 1470882782 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOAR DISAPPOINT < 1470882800 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1%2 < 1470882805 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470882813 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN MOAR DISAPPOINT < 1470882821 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: 34 % 43 < 1470882835 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y U NO SUPPORT MODULUS < 1470882891 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: 4 ^ 5 < 1470882902 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin(5) < 1470882914 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: SIN(4) < 1470882917 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops caps < 1470882919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please test this in /msg < 1470882924 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470882926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're spamming the channel < 1470882933 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470882968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: it's not primary a calculator but a dice roller, you have to include at least one dice roll. < 1470882992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, > gives you full haskell expressions. < 1470882996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 ^ 5 < 1470882997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1024 < 1470882999 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d6 ^ 3d10 < 1470883018 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d6 < 1470883018 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: 10 < 1470883021 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d10 < 1470883021 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: 10+5+2 => 17 < 1470883032 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 ^ 17 < 1470883033 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100000000000000000 < 1470883039 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 ^ 17 < 1470883041 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100000000000000000 < 1470883041 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470883043 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470883060 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, a perfect 100000000000000000? < 1470883065 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, 10 < 1470883068 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explains it nicely < 1470883081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it uses Integer, which are bignums. < 1470883101 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik < 1470883108 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 ^ 117 < 1470883110 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... < 1470883138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally the line cutoff is bigger in privmsg hth < 1470883349 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470883596 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470883740 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470883924 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470883929 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything new < 1470883983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've just about finished memorizing the lyrics to katyusha hth < 1470884049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for esolangs, i dunno, i don't even keep up with the wiki these days. < 1470884100 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:309c:c3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470884155 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1470884168 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470884203 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470884363 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a run in pixel dungeon with 3 artifacts and i cannot decide which to use < 1470884390 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470884424 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixel dungeon? < 1470884427 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470884450 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a roguelike for android and desktop < 1470884463 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the most forked game in play store < 1470884509 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1470884525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow test < 1470884526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4t8e9s11t12 < 1470884546 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like heroes of loot? < 1470884560 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470884572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FireFly `` rainbow << gamemanj: yes. but in this case, the optimized implementation will be the default implementation. here is a reference implementation in python: def tbf(s): print "0"*s.count(".") <-- surely you need to skip loops hth < 1470885146 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: damn. forgot about those. < 1470885185 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepend a command that replaces [.] with nothing to the function body < 1470885241 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :greedily < 1470885243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot do it with just one regular expression match hth < 1470885243 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a loop < 1470885250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1470885256 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470885908 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470886222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls speliG < 1470886223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speliG < 1470886239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag speliG < 1470886241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ fetch http://orenwatson.be/speliG < 1470886246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm speliG < 1470886247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470886290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell orin `revert has a bug so it doesn't work reliably for uncreating files hth < 1470886290 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470886351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell orin and annoyingly, it looks fine right after you've done it. < 1470886351 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470887492 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470888586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1470888596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric's founder is... freenode-staff? < 1470888627 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being freenode staff is not that special < 1470888629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that probably has to do with the ChanServ thing, it makes the official owner freenode-staff so that no one on the channel looks godly because of an orange dot (in my client) < 1470888645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, that's the username < 1470888655 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470888687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not as in "the founder of #esoteric was a freenode staff member!?", but as in "the user who founded #esoteric is of the nick freenode-staff!?" < 1470888825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the user who founded #esoteric got deregistered < 1470888839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and freenode had adopted a policy of taking over foundership themselves < 1470888841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah < 1470888858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, fizzie would have been next in line. < 1470888860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm sorry, but is there a command to figure out what the flags are for a channel? < 1470888867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470888869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1470888873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :access list < 1470888892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure if you need permissions for it < 1470888893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1470888966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't < 1470888997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If there are seeeeecret flags that aren't displayed at all, then you need permissions partially) < 1470889013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: +ARefiorstv? Seriously? < 1470889037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must have been crazy 6 years, 24 weeks, and 2 days ago < 1470889094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fizzie set it as +ARefiorstv set "? ago", but that doesn't tell me whether that's the current one) < 1470889114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that's simply "all possible permissions" < 1470889147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i think only the founder can add flags to themselves < 1470889168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or flags they don't have to others < 1470889203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since the list I'm using has R as meaning only registered users can talk on one network, and as a thing that is used to automatically op someone when there are no ops online for a while on another, but obviously neither of those are used here (well, it could be the latter if the list is null)) < 1470889227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...I'll assume that it isn't current unless Freenode says it means something else) < 1470889232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :R refers to a special "wipe channel" command < 1470889251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's been used, at least since i got here. < 1470889265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, R is the "recover" command < 1470889270 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prefrigerator < 1470889271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefrigerator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470889446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, that would have been fizzie being crazy, when he added me as op hth < 1470889542 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who owned it originally? < 1470889546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470889549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figured it out < 1470889549 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn prefrigerator Prefrigerators are generalized frigerators with built-in preconditioners for the modern precompact home. They are now available to preorder. < 1470889551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'prefrigerator': prefrigerator Prefrigerators are generalized frigerators with built-in preconditioners for the modern precompact home. They are now available to preorder. < 1470889552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1470889577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is everybody calling the thing in Turkey a "coup"? < 1470889586 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/prefrigerator //' wisdom/prefrigerator < 1470889588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470889624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it was andreou when i got here, don't know if it's always been. < 1470889640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's mainly of concern to non-mathematicians (mathematicians may care more percentagewise, but I'm going by gross numbers), shouldn't it be called a 'down'? < 1470889676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks
< 1470889725 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also blinks
< 1470889760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats his swatter. "you're too good for this."
< 1470889785 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1470889867 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was it a joke? did you get it? < 1470889885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i got it. it was bad. < 1470889945 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1470889951 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-up < 1470889954 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1470890145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1470890160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a pun so bad that oerjan refused to swat me. < 1470890206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like a Texas judge saying "You know, what you did is way beyond death penalty-worthy; so much so that I'm impressed and I'm-a just let you go" < 1470890234 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my favorites is: your send your friend a list of 10 jokes in hope that at least one of them would make him laugh. no pun in ten did. < 1470890236 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no < 1470890283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you have to keep consistent tense hth < 1470890288 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like you swatted a fly and then called up the police and said "hey im a murderer what are you going to do about it" and they said "meh" < 1470890321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think quintopia is slightly closer hth < 1470890514 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1470890526 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, sent < 1470890560 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not used to think about tenses in english :D < 1470890809 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470890834 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470890909 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470891261 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470891478 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you have a fave pun? < 1470891552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "my next one" ) < 1470891579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka i don't remember < 1470891580 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that funny < 1470891783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think "rude officer red knows rain, dear" is right up there < 1470891849 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1470891852 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470891854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1470891882 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say it's swatworthy < 1470891908 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the favorite japanese pun of a friend of mine is kuri to risu < 1470891911 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. if it werent for the elaborate set-up it calls for < 1470891937 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cross language puns are fun < 1470892009 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like that one: http://brownsharpie.courtneygibbons.org/?p=285 < 1470892738 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470892972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have my copy of Harry Potter and the Cursed Child < 1470892978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the script, really) < 1470892981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning to read it < 1470893011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But am I supposed to picture Hermione as Noma Dumezweni or as Emma Watson < 1470893144 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470893298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grah, but Emma Watson is 26 and when TCC takes place she'd be 36 < 1470893362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your only solution is to wait 10 years hth < 1470893587 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: which one is hotter? < 1470893608 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will borrow a copy soon < 1470893612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can't tell if this is a trick question xD < 1470893647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If answering it gets me in trouble < 1470893693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going by physical appearance alone, Emma Watson. Personality and intelligence are irrelevant to the discussion because it's a fictional character and the personality will be the same either way xD < 1470893694 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont have to answer < 1470893703 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :decide for yourself < 1470893733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was honestly probably going to use the exact same metric < 1470893768 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, but if Emma Watson tragically dies in the next 10 years, I'll never be able to read it! :,O < 1470893811 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, kill yourself hth < 1470893838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1470893855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter starts going to Hogwarts in 1991, at age 11 < 1470893864 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1470893885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The final book is at age 17, and if we assume it's early 11 and late 17, that makes it a 7 year gap in the books < 1470893910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The epilogue of Deathly Hallows takes place "19 years later" and [SPOILERS] TCC starts there < 1470893912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1470893941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means TCC takes place in 2017, I think < 1470893944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my opinion "which one is hotter?" and "kill yourself" are both quite out of place in here < 1470893945 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470893951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so please stop it < 1470893976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, unless we're discussing (a) stars and lasers and (b) ...quantum immortality maybe? < 1470894004 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again harry potter is out of place too < 1470894037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not particularly < 1470894061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Not as much though < 1470894111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Which is hotter" in the context of attractiveness is out of place on #esoteric because #esoteric is a small room where beings of pure, formless energy converse < 1470894235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-ethical-singularity doesn't seem quite as crazy on the fifth reading < 1470894297 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but you agree it is a good metric for deciding how to visually imagine a cgaracter in a piece of fiction so it was perfectly germane to the conversation at hand < 1470894371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah, but we like to pretend that it isn't part of being a non-asexual human < 1470894454 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like to pretend < 1470894471 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to stay honest with myself < 1470894479 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretend to like to pretend < 1470894499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, I was just going for "is there anything in the book for which race is relevant?"; I suppose that (a) no, because it's a play and should be approximately reproducible with a completely different set of actors and (b) if it actually is relevant, it'd definitely be mentioned- then again, I'm reading it in script form, so there isn't really a way to mention it outside the very beginning) < 1470894502 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that sometimes < 1470894509 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :butni dont enjoy it < 1470894541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also realized that reading a book in script form is probably pretty good for me, because it's basically just bullet points of story < 1470894552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bullet points are very nice < 1470894560 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no reason race is relevant at all. i find it a stranfe question. < 1470894575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well it's possible to have a story where the race of characters is important < 1470894610 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Most obviously TKaMb, but it's also possible with non-racially-oriented stories < 1470894614 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i am forced to admit that there arent many blacks named Granger... < 1470894647 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is possible to have such a story but hp doesnt seem like one < 1470894676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't, but it could be < 1470894696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a character interpretation where, if Hermione is black, everything feels so much more meaningful < 1470894732 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :id have to reread it all to verify that < 1470894758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because as a muggle-born, the assholes asshole her; if she's black, it can become something where she thought that becoming a wizard would get her away from the racism, but it turns out wizards have their own racism that she ALSO is susceptible to < 1470894802 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :was racism a big issue in early 90s svotland? < 1470894808 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :scotland < 1470895027 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? < 1470895047 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by that, I mean I know people mostly fougyht with their neighbors. < 1470895069 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470895152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Not ostensibly, but I see "is racism an issue" as a matter of "are more than ~5% of people racist" rather than "are there any racists at all in the country" < 1470895161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 5% is still a REALLY big number < 1470895171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, 2% is a better number I suppose < 1470895188 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, early 90. < 1470895205 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired and read early [number] as meaning ancient times. < 1470895215 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 1890s < 1470895222 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or earlier centuries. < 1470895293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah xD < 1470895484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it seems clear to me that rowling intended most of the hp characters to be white, but (possibly intentionally) left open the possibility they werent < 1470895510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.2% of people in the UK are black ATM, so if we assume that all characters' races are selected completely at random when race is not a significant factor (let's pretend they are; they aren't, but it probably still approximates), the odds of none of the main characters being black is around 94%. Which is obviously completely meaningless, but I'm really just a fan of doing statistics for fun and don't care about the odds as they < 1470895510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :contribute to the book < 1470896265 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/chatziko/location-guard/ < 1470896962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some areas of my opinions, I think, have reached the point of "meta-feminist" < 1470896999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A big thing that feminists- across all waves- want to do is "raise strong, confident daughters, and tell girls that it's OK to stand up for yourself" < 1470897052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is "Being a strong, confident woman is perfectly normal and good, but it's also usually completely fine if you want to be dependent and let other people do the talking for you. Whatever feels best for you" < 1470897082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("(you should be able to stand up for yourself if you need to, but you don't have to do it all the time)") < 1470897141 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how is that related to feminism? < 1470897150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Because it goes to the meta... < 1470897152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was clear < 1470897187 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that also meta-antifemminism? < 1470897199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ...no? < 1470897260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, meta-feminism probably ties together with anti-feminism; whenever you go up by a level of freedom, the lower level seems wrong and oppressive < 1470897324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like how a dystopic society where speaking political dissent is a crime- but holding the opinions isn't- will see a society where even holding those opinions is a crime the same way our society sees them < 1470897331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And really, there's probably another level up < 1470897353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably an uber-free level of society above us that would see our society as a horrible dystopia < 1470897367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't think of what that might be < 1470897442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I got these ideas from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, of all places < 1470897455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of being about raising all girls to be strong, confident women who don't need no man < 1470897466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has several characters, some of which fit that description and others of which don't < 1470897487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[fandom mode activated] < 1470897515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While Twilight fits perfectly into the stereotypical positive, strong roll model for little girls < 1470897530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fluttershy very much doesn't, more reminiscent of the Classic-era Disney princesses < 1470897563 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-clear < 1470897563 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whenever you go up a level" < 1470897564 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1470897567 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1470897574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Of freedom < 1470897577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I needed words < 1470897578 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1470897578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 36m 45s ago: `` rainbow << There's probably an uber-free level of society above us that would see our society as a horrible dystopia < 1470906420 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you read Three Worlds Collide < 1470906423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...well yeah < 1470906433 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: No, what is it? < 1470906436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vashta Nerada < 1470906438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep tight < 1470906493 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a short story relevant to that thought! Coincidentally this channel introduced me to it < 1470906789 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470908395 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470908400 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a01c:23db:2134:8d83 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470908477 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1470909926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470910843 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470910887 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7420:2f5e:93bb:cefe JOIN :#esoteric < 1470911174 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7420:2f5e:93bb:cefe QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470911219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470911240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49108&oldid=49105 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+13) 10 < 1470911328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49109&oldid=49108 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+2) 10 < 1470911458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49110&oldid=49053 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+21) 10Added language MiniStringFuck to the list! Yay! < 1470911505 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470911936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49111&oldid=49110 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (-46) 10No, no external site!! < 1470912062 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470912073 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470912130 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470912396 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470912466 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470912849 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470912863 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:582d:1f01:e258:8575 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470914564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470914810 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470914892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470915305 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470916117 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470916118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti//nortti is a very nortti boy. He yielded to shikhin's promises, and now is his High Priest. < 1470916168 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...??? < 1470916195 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how nortti < 1470916284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shikhin < 1470916284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin is a Malevolent God, who will promise you stuff tomorrow. < 1470916424 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>?~}{+-.,\*_!&%tell shikhin please don't kill me! < 1470916448 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you'd have thought one of those characters would have triggered a bot... < 1470917335 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470917868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shikhin shellokhin. gamemanj would like very much for you to not do anything malevolent towards their person hth < 1470917868 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470917883 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thank you! < 1470918217 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UNDERWEAR CHICKEN < 1470918365 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, wisdom is so wise! < 1470918613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470918618 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470918886 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470920142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470920165 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it knows all the house and wise. < 1470920462 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily wisdom.pdf typesetting (error???) found: <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1470920462 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470921481 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:582d:1f01:e258:8575 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470924460 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470924998 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470925707 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470925819 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470926495 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470926850 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470927165 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470927502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49112&oldid=44712 5* 0386.146.9.60 5* (+129) 10Added online interpreters < 1470928924 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470930889 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470933194 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470933585 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470934007 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470934028 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470934200 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470935130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49113&oldid=49112 5* 0386.146.9.60 5* (+1084) 10Added new features < 1470935815 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470935874 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470936664 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470937017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49114&oldid=49075 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+46) 10Undo revision 49075 by [[Special:Contributions/Weux082690|Weux082690]] ([[User talk:Weux082690|talk]]) < 1470937034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49115&oldid=49114 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-46) 10Undo revision 49114 by [[Special:Contributions/Weux082690|Weux082690]] ([[User talk:Weux082690|talk]]) < 1470937076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49116&oldid=49115 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-1) 10Undo revision 49074 by [[Special:Contributions/Weux082690|Weux082690]] ([[User talk:Weux082690|talk]]) < 1470937288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49117&oldid=49116 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-3076) 10/* Computational class */ < 1470938081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Polyglot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49118&oldid=40601 5* 0391.244.87.202 5* (+51) 10 < 1470938733 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish fish oreos? what has become of the thing once called man? < 1470939016 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day we stray further from god's light < 1470939414 0 :aloril_!?@? NICK :aloril < 1470941498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470941553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I wish there was a way to temporarily forget 100% of my Star Wars knowledge (down to the basic premise) and watch the whole series anew < 1470941566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See how it is < 1470941608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my parents showed me Star Wars too early (even by their own admission; I was 6, my mom had cancer, they were running out of distractions), so I don't remember the end of Empire. < 1470941901 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You are my High Priest? < 1470942013 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470942069 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470942114 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: Did the @tell not work...? < 1470942136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, then, to reiterate, < 1470942153 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you please not kill me? < 1470942160 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pleaassee? < 1470942176 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It did work. I'm afraid I can't promise not to kill you. < 1470942202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gulps
< 1470942327 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470943055 0 :baordog_!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470943240 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470944445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upon close examination of the 2011 release of Star Wars- specifically the controversial Han/Greedo confrontation sequence in the Mos Eisley Cantina scene- I've decide that, while Greedo technically shot first, Han's timing was close enough that the meaning is preserved (the way things go down, he was waiting for Greedo to fire; you can't fire back that quickly if you aren't specifically planning to. We can interpret Han waiting to shoot < 1470944445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :second as not a matter of ethics and a code of honor, but a matter of if-he-fires-the-first-shot-I'm-not-legally-liable) < 1470944495 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Han knew Greedo will shoot either way < 1470944590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but it's less legally messy if Greedo fires the first shot < 1470944607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, Han is a smuggler, but Greedo is a bounty hunter < 1470944631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greedo's job is illegal and obvious- there's no way to get around it. If there isn't a dead body, you didn't do your job < 1470944642 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or a prisoner < 1470944703 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470944710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Greedo certainly knows how to deal with murder charges- it's part of his job description- but Han, as a generally non-violent criminal, prefers to be legally safe when he does have to kill someone < 1470944966 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470945432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470945919 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470946994 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470947812 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:4c63:6cd4:c567:a16c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470947976 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470948000 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h148.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470948294 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470948363 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470948526 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, does anyone know cloudatcost? < 1470948585 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just bought a server and i'm setting it up and i'm wondering if you can change your mind on the config once it's installed < 1470948654 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :faq says you can change os at any time < 1470948658 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that solves it < 1470948660 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks guys < 1470948759 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470948859 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1470948952 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i appreciate it < 1470949369 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:4c63:6cd4:c567:a16c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470950102 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8836:1532:a133:449b JOIN :#esoteric < 1470950177 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :< shikhin> nortti: You are my High Priest? ← indeed. don't you remember? < 1470950649 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone actually try that lwan thing? < 1470950660 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna try it < 1470950662 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for arin.ga < 1470950679 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it gonna be painful? < 1470950703 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lwan.ws/ this thing < 1470952441 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8836:1532:a133:449b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470952776 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470952876 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:395c:4dd9:e64:5aa7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470954190 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the word "frustrum" < 1470954383 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: it confines and directs frustration? < 1470954658 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470954771 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:395c:4dd9:e64:5aa7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470954818 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No HTTP/2? So retro. < 1470955140 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really need it < 1470955152 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for arin.ga < 1470955167 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i said that already < 1470955507 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470956266 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470956282 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470956335 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470956416 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470957384 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :javascript < 1470957396 0 :javascript!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470957673 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470957684 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470957685 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 112200Z 21009G18KT 15SM FEW050 BKN250 31/20 A2990 RMK CU1CI6 CU TR SLP126 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1470957720 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470957746 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470957892 0 :baordog_!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470958054 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107080406 < 1470958057 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.say $ticks < 1470958061 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ticks < 1470958063 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1470958065 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107091171 < 1470958066 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107092062 < 1470958067 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107092640 < 1470958067 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107093078 < 1470958076 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wrong channel < 1470958077 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1470958098 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon_! < 1470958102 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1470958287 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470958291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 10h 30m 25s ago: wisdom.pdf typesetting (error???) found: <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1470958314 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: gamellomanj. trying to update the PDF? :D < 1470958676 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren]| < 1470958676 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"\[oren]|" (line 1, column 9): < 1470958676 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input < 1470958676 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom) < 1470958692 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote [oren] < 1470958692 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OlegFacts says: Oleg's latest project is re-writing Emacs... in the type system. < 1470958707 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote [[]oren[]] < 1470958707 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. You speak an infinite deal of nothing. < 1470958715 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren\] < 1470958715 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Where did you learn to type? < 1470958719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oren < 1470958719 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly. < 1470958722 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles lambdabot
< 1470958757 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1470958757 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ｚ < 1470958757 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly. < 1470958759 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote !@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/ < 1470958759 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. stty: unknown mode: doofus < 1470958768 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote quote < 1470958768 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: shachaf jokes are what the quotes section of HWN is for. though lately there have been not as many :[ cmccann: Hey, there wasn't a single shachaf quote in the last HWN! Leave me alone. There were two cmccann quotes. < 1470958782 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren]| < 1470958782 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"\[oren]|" (line 1, column 9): < 1470958782 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input < 1470958782 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom) < 1470958786 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren] < 1470958786 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. The more you drive -- the dumber you get. < 1470958791 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote !@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/| < 1470958791 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"!@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/|" (line 1, column 24): < 1470958792 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input < 1470958792 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom) < 1470958797 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the | < 1470958798 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ｂｙ < 1470958798 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. I don't think I can be your friend on Facebook anymore. < 1470958811 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that b is suspicious hth < 1470958813 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote moon < 1470958813 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmead says: Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week < 1470958816 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote moon < 1470958816 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrisdone says: “monads are like a finger pointing away to the moon. *smack* don't look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory…” < 1470958821 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ｂｙ < 1470958822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｈｉｌａｒｉｏｕｓ < 1470958822 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote y < 1470958822 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mjard says: hey mjard at 4'3" and 400 lbs, your height-weight ratio should make you pretty close to spherical?! / that's how I roll < 1470958828 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong bot < 1470958855 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[s]thats sad, a wrong bot situation. sad[/s] lol < 1470958939 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470958963 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470960067 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1470960074 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*munch*! < 1470960078 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quinthellopia!) < 1470961802 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1470961819 0 :testing1234!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470962425 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470962578 0 :baordog!~bob@cpe-24-193-94-165.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470962718 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470962845 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470962845 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 112300Z 22004G16KT 15SM FEW050TCU BKN250 31/20 A2989 RMK TCU1CI7 TCU TR SLP121 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1470962892 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does a rain dance. «Awéye! Mouille!»
< 1470963822 0 :testing1234!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470963836 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470964313 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470964336 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470964337 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 120000Z 25002KT 15SM FEW040CB FEW160 BKN250 29/20 A2988 RMK CB1AC1CI7 CB TR AC TR CB TOP SE SLP119 DENSITY ALT 1800FT < 1470964360 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dons pompoms and dances some more
< 1470965535 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470965597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:MiniStringFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49119 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+175) 10Created page with "I believe this should be a joke language, since it seems to be on par with [[Deadfish]] ~~~~" < 1470965756 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish ain't no joke! < 1470965803 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one make somebody else join an IRC chännel? can we track their IP down, remote into their machine, install and launch a bootstrapped client that automatically joins them here? < 1470965844 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's called a botnet < 1470965876 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercahello. right. < 1470965940 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: STILL NO FUNGOT! I AM FEELING DISPOSSESSED! EMOTIONS ARE FLOODING OVER ME! WELL, NOT QUITE FLOODING, JUST HUMIDIFYING ME! METAPHORICALLY! LIKE, YOU KNOW, ASTRAL AURA DAMPENING, DUDE! < 1470965975 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hellorcah? allorcah? alercahello?) < 1470966047 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBOS < 1470966047 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 112354Z 23012G20KT 190V250 10SM FEW050 BKN230 32/24 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP137 T03170239 10356 20317 53004 < 1470966052 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too hot for fungot. < 1470966057 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that rhymes. < 1470966076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although doesn't make much sense otherwise, since fungot's not *here*. < 1470966116 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. you're in Boston now? < 1470966130 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1470966137 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thizzie! < 1470966139 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just visiting. < 1470966141 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o hai! < 1470966141 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it might have been my primary hacking area anyways) < 1470966148 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Cambridge, actually. < 1470966166 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like it there? does Quincy Market still exist? < 1470966214 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't managed to see much of it yet, been mostly confined to the hotel-office axis. < 1470966222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the hotel's across the street from the office. < 1470966237 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a free Saturday here though. < 1470966378 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470966664 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470966693 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h148.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470967126 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470968626 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DEMONIAC CHICKEN < 1470969561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470970328 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470970339 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i personally think my bot has a good sqrt of 2 answer < 1470970340 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078569671875376948073176679737990732478462107038850387 5343276415727350138462309122970249248361 < 1470970349 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats 128 digits < 1470970501 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a square of that number is 2 + 1.2487297240530495370686529703... * 10^-127, so it is probably accurate < 1470970821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49120&oldid=49111 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10deorr < 1470970828 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470971026 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470971301 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470971472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj ...you'd have thought one of those characters would have triggered a bot... <-- yes. but not in that order hth < 1470971472 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470971626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hilarious < 1470971628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :174) I love the way zzo38's comment was cut off after the f of brainfuck that's just the most hilarious place to cut it off in a discussion about censorshi < 1470971671 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1470972006 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making changes to my font so that e.g. ㎆ won't look exatly like MB < 1470972301 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470972870 0 :baordog!~bob@cpe-24-193-94-165.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470973993 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ㎆ < 1470973994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+3386 SQUARE MB] < 1470974174 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvuoxzqkfgfskyvm QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470974174 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470974664 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1470974674 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp JOIN :#esoteric < 1470978577 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470979767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily i suspect gamemanj's "error" isn't one (those are all legal nick chars and, well, it's oren), although the original seems to have been expunged from HackEgo. < 1470979767 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470979922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | grep 'being hilarious' < 1470979931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470979935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | grep 'being hilarious' < 1470979937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470979942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoq quotes < 1470979943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hoq: not found < 1470979948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hog quotes < 1470979949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ addquote If we don\'t study the mistakes of the future we\'re doomed to repeat them for the first time :( \ addquote if someone can, they\'re in this chan \ addquote int-e: all right...ill try not to think about your mind. best of luck with it \ addquote AIUI, one of the senio < 1470979981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | grep 'hilarious' < 1470979982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470979988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hog < 1470979989 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1470980000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | wc < 1470980001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1175 17667 112886 < 1470980024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep hilarious wisdom < 1470980034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470980041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url quotes < 1470980042 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/quotes < 1470980112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily oops, never mind, it's weirdly formatted otherwise, so grep doesn't find it < 1470980112 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470980135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote h.*i.*l.*a.*r.*i.*o.*u.*s < 1470980136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 20) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset s < 1470980162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm something tells me that's too easy to match :P < 1470980171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1224 < 1470980172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｈｉｌａｒｉｏｕｓ < 1470980232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily given this, you might want to double check hth < 1470980232 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470982033 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470982844 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan what happened i missed it < 1470982980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on afterthought, i think what happened was gamemanj looked at 1224 in the wisdom.pdf and didn't realize it was supposed to look that weird. < 1470983010 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470983015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i blathered because i cannot manage to read to the end of the logs. < 1470983022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(before talking) < 1470983042 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this seems to be a recurring issue with you < 1470983224 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres an interesting priblem for you: if you have twenty items and can sort five of them at a time, what is the smallest number of five-item sorts needed to do the job and what sequence of sorts will do it? < 1470983620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/interesting/too complicated/ < 1470983689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n// < 1470983748 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "how many" part is easy enough. the sequence is tricky < 1470986500 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ddfd:bb38:57e6:db61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470988114 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ddfd:bb38:57e6:db61 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470988330 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:580c:53fa:fa6e:aaa1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470990887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470990962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weird thing about my headphones is that it feels like one of the earpieces is completely silent < 1470990970 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 9 is a lower bound, and you're suggesting that it's tight? < 1470990990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, due to clever positioning of everything I listen to, it sounds like the noise that is coming from the right one is /inside/ my head < 1470991020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1470991087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1470992464 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1470993541 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c168:2130:fede:5318 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470994261 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5837:4a1a:b115:4019 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470994615 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a database with super low memory footprint? < 1470994620 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need advanced features < 1470994737 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should keep as little data as possible in memory and store the rest on disk < 1470994794 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :features i need are literally only to set a value for a given key, and to retrieve a value based on its key < 1470994812 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fancy sql is needed < 1470994936 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :values are memory blobs of varying size, keys are 6 character alphanumeric strings < 1470994977 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i can write this thing myself < 1470995427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470996494 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470996916 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1470997066 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470998883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49121&oldid=49113 5* 0386.146.9.60 5* (-3) 10/* Date */ < 1470999631 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471000012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471000519 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471001358 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471002612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471002618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1471002679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1471002776 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1471002825 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471003141 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1471004101 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471004265 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1471004265 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 48m 18s ago: i suspect gamemanj's "error" isn't one (those are all legal nick chars and, well, it's oren), although the original seems to have been expunged from HackEgo. < 1471004266 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 42m 33s ago: oops, never mind, it's weirdly formatted otherwise, so grep doesn't find it < 1471004266 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 40m 33s ago: given this, you might want to double check hth < 1471004300 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Client Quit < 1471004342 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471004621 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471004916 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CUTOUT CHICKEN < 1471004970 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1471004999 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: dbm's modern successors (GDBM & friends) would be the traditional choice for that sort of thing, though I don't know how they compare wrt. *super*-low memory footprint. < 1471005244 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471005367 0 :kragniz!?@? NICK :Guest66666 < 1471005375 0 :kragniz1!?@? NICK :kragniz < 1471005687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471005730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471006404 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Although I guess you could also just use a directory. < 1471006414 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'm using atm < 1471006452 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for your suggestion < 1471006457 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :about dbm i mean < 1471006678 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside: traditional dbm tends to have fixed size limits for the values (in the "few kilobytes" ballpark), but at least GDBM doesn't. Although I've only really interfaced with these things via Perl's AnyDBM_File. < 1471006932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471007630 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:580c:53fa:fa6e:aaa1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471008598 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471008724 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471009000 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471009023 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471009311 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471009492 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471010836 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471011516 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471011759 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471012127 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.airguitarworldchampionships.com/ next week < 1471012145 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in 2 weeks < 1471012286 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471012325 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :air guitar.. that's the one in Oulu, I think? < 1471012342 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1471012588 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471012864 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471013146 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471013392 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471014209 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471014374 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one bruteforce this? http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/89541/14676 < 1471014470 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471014517 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1471014577 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471014658 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: write a number of expressions with a few constants, bruteforce the constants for each expression? < 1471014685 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like (x ^ A) * B (and similarly for other expressions of x involving up to two constants) < 1471014710 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they come up with xor and multiply? < 1471014730 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471014736 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tried all of them? < 1471014791 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it's what I would do < 1471014835 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really explained < 1471014861 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make a comment and ask them to elaborate on how the expression was bruteforced < 1471014889 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i run out of comments long ago < 1471014916 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think finding ^ and * to use that for sorting is reasonable < 1471014947 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 values out of 2^8 is reasonable < 1471014984 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be able to do that for practically any set of 12 strings that are different enough < 1471015353 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471015744 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.217.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471016785 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471018813 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next version of my font will include playing cards < 1471018834 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I wanted to do more astral plane stuff < 1471018936 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🂡 < 1471019028 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, what if we had a computer that had playing cards instead of bytes, and five card "words" < 1471019068 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur drunk < 1471019089 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, mever mind that. suppose a computer stored its state as a deck of cards. How big is that state, in bits? < 1471019111 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471019114 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log2(factorial(52)) < 1471019115 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘log2’ < 1471019115 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘log’ (imported from Prelude)Not in scope: ‘factorial’ < 1471019187 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> add(log([1 .. 52]))/log(2) < 1471019188 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘add’ < 1471019188 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1471019188 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘and’ (imported from Data.List), ‘odd’ (imported from Prelude) < 1471019200 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(log([1 .. 52]))/log(2) < 1471019202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1471019202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M73354184593098767806440’ < 1471019202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1471019220 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(log([1.0 .. 52.0]))/log(2.0) < 1471019221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1471019221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M54011832658531067726463’ < 1471019221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1471019228 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(log([1 .. 52]))/log(2.0) < 1471019229 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1471019229 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M47258435328389861236473’ < 1471019229 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1471019261 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map(log,[1 .. 52])))/log(2.0) < 1471019262 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:24: parse error on input ‘)’ < 1471019273 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map(log,[1 .. 52]))/log(2.0) < 1471019274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘a0 -> b’ < 1471019274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘(Double -> Double, [Integer])’ < 1471019274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘map’, namely ‘(log, [1 .. 52])’ < 1471019284 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're just proving how drunk you are < 1471019290 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map(log [1 .. 52]))/log(2.0) < 1471019291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘a0 -> b’ with actual type ‘[Integer]’ < 1471019291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘log’, namely ‘[1 .. 52]’ < 1471019291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘map’, namely ‘(log [1 .. 52])’ < 1471019312 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm just trying to bruteforce haskell syntax again < 1471019363 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (map log [1 .. 52]) < 1471019365 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,0.6931471805599453,1.0986122886681098,1.3862943611198906,1.609437912434... < 1471019368 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like assistance? < 1471019376 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map log [1 .. 52]) < 1471019377 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 156.3608363030788 < 1471019399 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sum(map log [1 .. 52]))/(log 2) < 1471019401 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 225.5810031237028 < 1471019409 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you trying to calculate the log base 2 of a deck of cards? < 1471019439 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: to find out how many bits it takes to store a randomly ordered deck < 1471019470 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log (product [1..52])/log 2 < 1471019472 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 225.5810031237028 < 1471019496 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer being, not enough to make a FSM based on said state interesting enough < 1471019527 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(double is large enough for the product) < 1471019571 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I would'nt have expected that. doubles are biiig < 1471019661 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so I just found out that f(a,b) calls f with the tuple a,b? < 1471019726 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the correct mehtod to bind f with its arguments within an expression is (f a b) like in lisp < 1471019797 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell seems more related to lisp than to algol < 1471019799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1048 < 1471019806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1048: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1471019977 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> product [1..12] < 1471019978 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 479001600 < 1471019986 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed Haskell may be less unrelated to lisp than to algol < 1471020039 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: doubles are exponential, remember < 1471020083 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can store really big and really small numbers. Just don't mix < 1471020091 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: o thanks < 1471020097 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hmm, so the double can represent it because 225 fits into a double's exponent field? < 1471020109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2^1023 :: Double, 2^1024 :: Double) < 1471020111 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (8.98846567431158e307,Infinity) < 1471020443 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471021576 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nigel Farage grew a moustache! < 1471022133 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471022141 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what new plan does this moustachiod politician have?! < 1471022197 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not Nigel Farage < 1471022209 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's his evil doppleganger from another universe < 1471022266 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rigel Barrage < 1471022538 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471022660 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471023310 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471023927 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dingo Garage < 1471023984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49122&oldid=46125 5* 03CodeMaster111 5* (+235) 10 < 1471024014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49123&oldid=49122 5* 03CodeMaster111 5* (+2) 10 < 1471025612 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471025722 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471026075 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471026224 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1471027232 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471027492 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471027524 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471027657 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.217.49 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471027912 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my poll averaging shows a very different result from the poll averaging the media is using < 1471027960 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows turmp support holding steady at 41% about, while clinton declined over the lat week < 1471028001 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471028008 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is still ahead by 3-4% < 1471028132 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471028167 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The poll averages are based on when the poll was released I think, while my poll averages are based on when the polls were conducted < 1471029282 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471029309 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471029461 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1471029532 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471029707 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49124&oldid=49123 5* 03Fizzie 5* (-2) 10Fix those links (but the "Information" heading is still very vague) < 1471029838 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471030285 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471030467 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1471031534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471031930 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471032945 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471033317 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471034796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it's impossible to study the optimal Star Wars viewing order in an ethical way < 1471034817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because to compare episodic and release orders, you have to have someone actually watch it in episodic order < 1471034826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which no ethics committee would ever permit < 1471035070 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs ethics when you're a mad scientist < 1471035107 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also tell whoever wrote `? gamemanj that "Insert Name Here" was a joke and wasn't to be taken seriously < 1471035330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow, I really don't get the SMBC favicon < 1471035351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1471035356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. < 1471035406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have mad scientists < 1471035412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not sad scientists < 1471035418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or glad scientists < 1471035427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or bored, yet slightly aroused scientists < 1471035572 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: sounds like a perfect wisdom entry then < 1471035582 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a joke that could be taken seriously) < 1471036602 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I had to inquire about the meaning of "I. N." once before... it's not entirely obvious what it stands for, I think. < 1471036639 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I said "Insert Name Here", then... < 1471036642 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits gamemanj < 1471036644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471036649 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's not possible < 1471036661 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, whatever < 1471036721 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then whoever it was (I vaguely recall the name "oren", but I could be wrong) wrote "I. N. Here", presumably so it sounded like "the mad scientist in here" < 1471036770 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``culprits *gamemanj* < 1471036771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `culprits: not found < 1471036776 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits *gamemanj* < 1471036777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471036794 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits *g*a*m*e*m*a*n*j* < 1471036796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471036800 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing??!? < 1471036861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo *gamemanj* < 1471036861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*gamemanj* < 1471036876 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait. < 1471036879 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cwlprits gamemanj # presumably? < 1471036881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1471036882 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm an idiot < 1471036905 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, if you are reading this, sorry I got you confused with oerjan. < 1471036907 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the u/w is a bit too subtle. < 1471036929 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, if you are reading this, well done, your joke made it into wisdom.pdf. < 1471036941 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives oerjan a biscuit
< 1471036964 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additional note. oerjan is apparently... NOT reading this. < 1471036974 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might, later < 1471036981 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan well done, your joke made it into wisdom.pdf. < 1471036981 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471036989 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now he definitely will. < 1471036993 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.08.12 < 1471037018 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471037047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what this "error" is about
< 1471037079 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what that "error" is about
< 1471037115 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471037127 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "wisdom.pdf error" I mentioned to boily < 1471037146 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1471037294 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/Screenshot_2016-08-12_21-26-44.png < 1471037322 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the font isn't intentionally different, in any case < 1471037340 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : \item \verb!<{\[oren]|}>! \scalebox{1.2}[1]{zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious} < 1471037350 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the scalebox is intentional. < 1471037363 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, you have the TeX source, TeX source trumps screenshot. < 1471037381 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, why it's intentional... < 1471037398 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ｗｉｌｌ < 1471037399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｈｉｌａｒｉｏｕｓ < 1471037412 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see. < 1471037447 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :New question: why on the planet would anyone choose to write that way... < 1471037478 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it fits better with kanji < 1471037488 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiragana etc. < 1471037499 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ｗ < 1471037499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FF57 FULLWIDTH LATIN SMALL LETTER W] < 1471037530 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not seeing how it fits better... < 1471037544 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I guess it makes them aligned with character cells? < 1471037596 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not 100% sure. I'm used to narrow characters, not square ones. < 1471038487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os < 1471038488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Os is the accusative plural of us. Also a municipality in Norway. < 1471038497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...plural of us? < 1471038521 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc32:ff9e:e53d:e13f JOIN :#esoteric < 1471038572 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471038626 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471038630 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for groups of groups < 1471038684 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Os was defined by the committee of people interested in shutting up engineers to define the status on P = NP by simply abstracting it so conversation did not matter even if it is true or false < 1471038723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1471038727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things invented by the committee of people interested in shutting up engineers: Pi < 1471038731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bracket is a terrible way to handle sports < 1471038731 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471038752 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use a better one! < 1471038800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, if we're assuming that, given 4 teams A, B, C, D where A plays B to yield J and C plays D to yield K, then J plays K to yield V < 1471038841 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471038845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If A is better than (>) B and C > D, then V > D < 1471038870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we're using that logic (which is obviously flawed due to rock-paper-scissors-style games) < 1471038893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there is a MUCH more efficient system < 1471038923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We put the teams in an order in a 1-dimensional list (presumably either at random or based on previous metrics) < 1471038943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We call one team L, and it is initially the first team in the list < 1471038956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove the first team in the list < 1471038994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, repeating until the list is null, pop a team and play it against L. The winner is saved as L and the loser is discarded < 1471039013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once the list is null, L is the overall victor of the tournament < 1471039078 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471039086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Get it? < 1471039166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(essentially, if we don't require that the participating teams be partially ordered- which we clearly don't due to bracket tournaments- then we can do this MUCH more efficiently) < 1471039491 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which team do you pop? < 1471039497 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The team at the top of the list? < 1471039506 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this means all teams have to play against L. < 1471039521 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until L changes, at least. < 1471039533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Andrew Melrose14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49125 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+265) 10About Andrew Melrose < 1471039545 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Hill_%28game%29 < 1471039557 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the one hand, this means a minimal number of matches are played - on the other, can this be parallelized? < 1471039601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bracket plays the same number of games... it *is* the parallelized version < 1471039634 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :every game eliminates one player or team after all, so you need n-1 games to get from n to 1. < 1471039776 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bonus points if you find the connection to binary trees, and the number of their leafs and internal nodes) < 1471040033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes < 1471040038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Exactly < 1471040065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't think it can < 1471040088 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so basically, your system is a step backwards unless you only have one playfield. < 1471040097 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the secondary issue of wear levelling. < 1471040106 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"L" will get tired over time. < 1471040108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't think that the bracket plays less games... < 1471040109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it? < 1471040126 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the defeater of L, this will be their first game. < 1471040146 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bracket doesn't play less games, but it doesn't play more either because each bracket eliminates a team. < 1471040151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yeah, but since when has real-world stuff mattered to the NFL or FIFA or the NBA < 1471040175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This system plays n-1 games, where n is the number of teams... < 1471040178 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bracket plays... < 1471040219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a bracket... the winning team must play all the way to the bottom... but there are less steps... < 1471040225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the proper strategy is MATH < 1471040239 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about it this way. < 1471040243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we have 8 teams, then 7 games are played in a season < 1471040250 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 4 teams, A, B, C, D. < 1471040253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It'd be easiest with an example, I think < 1471040264 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The brackets would be, as an example, [[A,B],[C,D]] < 1471040274 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A and B fight, C and D fight in parallel. < 1471040285 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result of these two is A* and B*. < 1471040292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a bracket... each of the 8 teams is paired with another, so 4 games are played in the first round... then 2 in the next... then the finals... so 7 < 1471040293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471040295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1471040297 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A* and B* are equally worn out. < 1471040313 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You then have [A*, B*], and the game is resolved. < 1471040322 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This takes 3 battles. < 1471040332 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In your system, we start with [A, B], as per usual. < 1471040340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the worst case, A wins. < 1471040349 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is because then they go on, but worn down, < 1471040354 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while C is "fresh". < 1471040368 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then [A-, C] happens ('-' because A is now worn down and C isn't) < 1471040373 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If A still continues, < 1471040378 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[A--, D] happens... < 1471040390 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus who wins is highly order-dependant. < 1471040407 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way, 3 games are played. < 1471040407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, true < 1471040420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But brackets are still broken because of non-transitive winning < 1471040444 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose. It's less broken than sending a worn out football team against a completely fresh one, though. < 1471040452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Also, I think we assume that there's time between games < 1471040473 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we eliminate the possibility of team morale and team weardown, then yes, the "list" approach is the best. < 1471040485 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though it cannot be parallelized as such without changing it intrinsically.) < 1471040497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is, unless you can parallelize, but you can't because all games have to be shown < 1471040522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you play multiple bracket games at once, then your ratings go down because you can't watch multiple games simultaneously) < 1471041244 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471041499 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471041530 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471041560 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471041575 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471041844 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471041852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471042081 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471042550 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471042635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471043108 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471043135 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471043214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have been found guilty of conspiring to solicit the incitement of attempted cheque fraud. The penalty is death." -- a real sentence that could technically said by a judge under US law, assuming that certain laws are interpreted in an uncommon (but still acceptable) way < 1471043287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because conspiring to commit a crime, soliciting a crime, inciting a crime, and attempting a crime are all the same level as the crime (so paying a hitman is still a felony. Attempts may be treated less badly, but they're still felonies) < 1471043293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheque fraud is a felony < 1471043338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And under the Felony-Murder rule, if you kill someone (whether or not you intend to) in the process of committing a crime, that is counted as premeditated murder (though the common interpretation requires that the crime be violent- but it isn't shared by everyone) < 1471043387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if, by conspiring to solicit the incitement of attempted cheque fraud, a person dies (in this case, we're assuming it's by the cheque fraud, not by the conspiring), you can be held liable < 1471043871 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1471043905 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471043969 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1471043976 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471044064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1471044074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :England and Wales abolished Larceny as a crime < 1471044352 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc32:ff9e:e53d:e13f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471044482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aggravated cheque fraud? < 1471045352 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471045406 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471045916 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471046128 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1471046128 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1471046146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471046275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471046275 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 2h 34m 53s ago: well done, your joke made it into wisdom.pdf. < 1471046299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am confused. did it bypass HackEgo? < 1471046337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, i may have to file a DMCA hth < 1471046366 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. which joke? which bypass? which DMCA? < 1471046375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alsello < 1471046385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: see the message < 1471046515 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't remember if he has seen the message...
< 1471046542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i got right above hth < 1471046590 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d5c6:41e5:5bd1:bd94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471046644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe gamemanj just observed it happening. in a quantum way. < 1471047576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think you're just proving how drunk you are <-- looks plausible < 1471047606 0 :testoren!4a0f3ba5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.15.59.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471047786 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :testostelloren! < 1471047807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats boily -----###
< 1471047868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1471047868 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 8 < 1471047884 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets swatten
< 1471047886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1471047886 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 6 < 1471047892 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is lightly swatten
< 1471047915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right < 1471048076 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471048463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : apparently the correct mehtod to bind f with its arguments within an expression is (f a b) like in lisp <-- well yeah, except the parentheses aren't always necessary. < 1471048504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4] < 1471048506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’ < 1471048506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’, < 1471048506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : imported from ‘Data.List’ at /tmp/mueval2145174... < 1471048513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471048516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map < 1471048517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’ < 1471048517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’, < 1471048517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : imported from ‘Data.List’ at /home/lambda/.lambdabot/State/L.hs:99:1-16 < 1471048528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef < 1471048528 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1471048531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4] < 1471048532 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.8414709848078965,0.9092974268256817,-0.9899924966004454,-0.6536436208636119] < 1471048618 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \oren\ < 1471048619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: \ at end of pattern < 1471048628 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote '\oren\' < 1471048628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471048633 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote '\oren\' < 1471048634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: \ at end of pattern < 1471048647 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \\oren\ < 1471048647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: \ at end of pattern < 1471048649 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \\oren\\ < 1471048650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar < 1471048702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I wish I knew the context for that < 1471048711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably KSP < 1471048727 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1262 < 1471048728 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1262) <\oren\> scientists can apparently research things even while rotating 30 times a minute < 1471048734 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1471048779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure 1261 and 1262 are KSP < 1471048789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to recall the original < 1471049051 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote '\\oren\\' | sed -e 's/).*//' < 1471049052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257 \ 1260 \ 1261 \ 1262 \ 1266 < 1471049065 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1266 < 1471049065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1266) <\oren\> i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished < 1471049113 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote 'hppavilion' | sed -e 's/).*//' < 1471049114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1242 \ 1253 \ 1254 \ 1260 < 1471049122 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote '\\oren\\' < 1471049123 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar < 1471049128 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote 'hppavilion' < 1471049129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1242) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there \ 1253) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang \ 1254) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang < 1471049192 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1254 < 1471049193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1254) izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. < 1471049207 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1471049211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.32496 < 1471049212 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1260 < 1471049213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane < 1471049214 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the joke on 1253? < 1471049230 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. we have a kenm quote? < 1471049234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ...capitalization, maybe? < 1471049235 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kenm < 1471049235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471049246 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which pastequotes) < 1471049247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste < 1471049253 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not funny < 1471049267 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which allquotes) < 1471049268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ nl -w 1 -s ') ' quotes < 1471049296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1471049324 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tricycle < 1471049325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1471049352 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the chrono trigger mode < 1471049382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 25 < 1471049383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25) pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. ehird: consider low-gravity porn fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. < 1471049478 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure you can really incite an attempted crime. < 1471049493 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inciting someone to attempt to commit a crime is inciting them to commit that crime. < 1471049495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think you can < 1471049500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, true < 1471049525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Unless you incite them with the full knowledge that they can't actually accomplish it < 1471049533 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:305a:50d3:b507:14fe:99a1:6de6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471049538 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think you have a point. < 1471049555 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of a stupid legal scenario I came up with one day. < 1471049626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to know quote 42's context < 1471049630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Continue < 1471049648 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is winter, and there is a pond which is frozen over. The ice on the pond is thin, and any reasonable person would know that the ice is thin and that it would be unacceptably dangerous to walk out onto the ice. < 1471049701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 42 < 1471049701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42) ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? < 1471049704 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a person who unreasonably believes that it would be safe to walk on the ice. < 1471049714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1471049742 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the person walks out onto the ice, and the ice breaks, plunging the person into the freezing cold water. < 1471049771 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the context is porbably quote 52 < 1471049776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 52 < 1471049777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :52) if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has < 1471049789 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this point, the person notices a branch which they had not seen before, which is lying on top of the ice. < 1471049800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: hardly. quotes are usually chronological and rarely that close in time. < 1471049813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1471049814 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person could grab onto the branch and use it to pull themself out of the ice. < 1471049816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1471049828 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1471049828 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, you have been standing by the pond and you've witnessed all of this. < 1471049837 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For no reason, you grab the branch and pull it out of the person's reach. < 1471049845 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the point is that the context of both those quotes is japanese porn < 1471049852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, of course < 1471049865 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person is thus unable to escape from the ice, and freezes to death. < 1471049878 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the question is: have you murdered that person? < 1471049894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1471049896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely < 1471049910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely. < 1471049933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barring extenuating circumstances, such as you pulling the branch out of their reach into the reach of someone else < 1471049949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this even constitutes manslaughter < 1471049964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just second-degree (unmeditated) murder < 1471050001 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471050048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I am completely mystified. You have succeeded. < 1471050048 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471050077 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you're out gathering firewood, and that branch is the only viable firewood in sight? < 1471050102 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're really hungry and you want to just get some firewood already so you can go home and eat as soon as possible? < 1471050176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that somehow reminds me of that shipwreck cannibalism case i saw on wikipedia. < 1471050214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the conclusion was basically, that killing someone is murder even if it will prevent everyone else from starving to death. < 1471050224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by english law iirc) < 1471050298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens < 1471050303 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there quotes that refer to future quotes? < 1471050331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there may be quotes added out of order, but i don't recall anything like that. < 1471050398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as the article says, "necessity is not a defence to a charge of murder". < 1471050407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 105 < 1471050408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :105) but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well < 1471050413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fucking fuck does that mean? < 1471050429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty relevant to tswett's original question. < 1471050433 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. you never met oklopol, didn't you? < 1471050455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a clear case of oklopol, that. < 1471050459 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:305a:50d3:b507:14fe:99a1:6de6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471050465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think I was online with em once < 1471050492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he may have met one of his rare recent alternate nick visits. < 1471050574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Quick, say something that references a future quote < 1471050616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote time < 1471050616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective \ 59) i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program \ 86) insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 109) < 1471050636 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote time[^s] < 1471050637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :86) insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 145) catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream \ 246) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O A small bene < 1471050671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote time travel < 1471050672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :863) i don't even know anything about feather and i'm getting sick of the time travel jokes \ 894) you can define Feather as "Smalltalk done right" if you want to confuse people into wondering why that would involve time travel stuff and all that < 1471050704 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: best way to delinearize time is to invoke fungot. < 1471050704 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: gauche is obviously broken then. you're the artist, or you could catch the exception < 1471050748 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can fungot invoke me? < 1471050749 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i didn't imply ' bitwise' from ' /usr/ ports/ net/ openbsd, bsd/ os, look at the metadata and use it pervasively throughout the curricula, but also blurred vision < 1471050764 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, my vision's perfectly fine hth < 1471050765 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: got new mail: http://lists.r6rs.org/ pipermail/ python-list/ 2003-october/ 186473.html google search < 1471050767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much must one use IRC before they start dreaming in terminal... < 1471050799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It appears the answer is yes < 1471050817 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, I still have perfectly clear vision hthth < 1471050820 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592652582646125206037179644022371557877983160126149695135327918621058849781011234089 2609570395550671346460285442982415593446 < 1471050826 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a good approximation < 1471050893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 118 < 1471050893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :118) OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime < 1471050903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ Relevant to what I've been thinking < 1471050976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 122 < 1471050977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :122) pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" < 1471050982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What mode was that!? < 1471050986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^mode < 1471051003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1471051003 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1471051010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1471051010 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1471051022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style speeches < 1471051022 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) < 1471051029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style oots < 1471051029 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: oots (Order Of The Stick) < 1471051038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fisher < 1471051038 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations) < 1471051042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1471051046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Ahoy < 1471051046 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes i'm like every time a plane would fly over we have a computer < 1471051130 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1471051130 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1471051133 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1471051194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm guessing ct, it's an old style that looks like that. < 1471051211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1471051212 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1471051215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1471051221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: beep < 1471051221 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but, we are far outnumbered! me saw! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1471051230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although usually with more exclamation points than question marks < 1471051233 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38ef:e384:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471051241 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of ct, I had my first scan ever happen to me the other week. too bad I forgot about asking if I could keep a copy of the data :/ < 1471051257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: scan? < 1471051280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( he had to have his head examined ) < 1471051291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, CAT < 1471051355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how's the sword stopping going? < 1471051356 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1471051362 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38ef:e384:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471051435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hope it's not too serious < 1471051469 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471051562 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just had recurring headaches and dizziness. they scanned me just to make sure there was nothing wrong (there's effectively nothing), and prescribed me enough tylenols for the next three generations. < 1471051579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1471051600 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1471051654 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to be worried about. eat more proteins, drink water, acetaminophen and wait a month. < 1471051865 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, just to be sure, no hypochondriacs in these here fine chännel, eh? < 1471052317 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471052333 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes moonythedwarf_ in the duplicate bits
< 1471052392 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471052408 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1471052743 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471052873 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471052900 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471052927 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471053118 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471053583 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d5c6:41e5:5bd1:bd94 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471053624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm sure my chondriac is very hypo, i think i can feel it aching hth < 1471053635 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using my new, better method, I made a polling average of the election < 1471053646 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.htm < 1471053715 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.c.htm < 1471053719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.txt.htm < 1471054103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj also tell whoever wrote `? gamemanj that "Insert Name Here" was a joke and wasn't to be taken seriously <-- your point twh? < 1471054103 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471054136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: finally i got to the explanatory part of the logs. < 1471054308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj then whoever it was (I vaguely recall the name "oren", but I could be wrong) wrote "I. N. Here", presumably so it sounded like "the mad scientist in here" <-- i think that's overthinking it hth < 1471054308 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471054387 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a mad scientist, I'm only impersonating one. I am sane. < 1471054425 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when doing debug stuff with our PDF generation code, I have a nice logo for "Evil Mad Dentist Laboratory" to put in the headers.) < 1471054436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e the u/w is a bit too subtle. <-- you can still use wisdom/ although we might yell at you hth < 1471054436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471054502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is that a backronym of the actual one twh < 1471054616 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't retracronymify initialisms hth < 1471054732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :backronyms of initialisms lack yoghurt < 1471054741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my mind drew a blank there) < 1471054773 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1471054781 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like yoghurt. a great dollop of it on your cereals in the morning is the best. < 1471054781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi' moon < 1471054788 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1471054872 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon_ < 1471055024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj it's for groups of groups <-- now you're overthinking in the wrong direction hth < 1471055024 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471055650 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! < 1471055652 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DUDE CHICKEN < 1471056291 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471056727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471056884 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471057244 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471057758 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened on july 24 < 1471057796 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the DNC < 1471057805 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1471058558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471058587 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471058597 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471059354 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a *lot* of instances of Trump being a public idiot starting about then. < 1471060363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* 10New user account < 1471060609 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471060623 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471060707 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1471060707 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1471060756 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ded < 1471060758 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Client Quit < 1471060762 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel is ded < 1471060795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Kiwitrader14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49126 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+90) 10Created page with "Kiwitrader has written two esolangs: Topaz W-INTERCAL links: none now will update soon" < 1471060884 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel is VERY dead < 1471060987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very faux spammer nickname on that one < 1471061008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, BRAINS < 1471061031 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides the bodys
< 1471061039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The night of the living channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1471062155 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471062340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Topaz14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49127 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+823) 10Created page with "Topaz is an esoteric programming language created by ~~~~ its syntax is relatively simple: every program starts with main function declaration: main { ; code } endwi..." < 1471062677 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471062724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49128 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+626) 10Created page with "W-INTERCAL is a version of intercal made by ~~~~ It is recommended that novice programmers learn this rather than INTERCAL. Syntax: if you definitely want the interpreter t..." < 1471062741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49129&oldid=49128 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+2) 10 < 1471062987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471063024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game < 1471063027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knew? < 1471063048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (I want my wikiname to be ~~~~...) < 1471063071 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that explians why trump wnt down as well as clinton going up < 1471063106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's just the HackEgo link not doing the expansion for some reason. < 1471063116 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Thought bubble notation has crept its way into here. Or did it come from here. < 1471063139 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (I first saw it here) < 1471063186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( you people are missing spaces ) < 1471063186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: He criticized a Gold Star family < 1471063192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1471063197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARUKIRI < 1471063237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hppuvilion[1] -----###
< 1471063260 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471063300 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ITYM harakiri < 1471063321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: It's japanese. Spelling is fungible. < 1471063360 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471063386 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :腹切り < 1471063422 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "Harukiri" would be "cutting spring". < 1471063430 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling is important. < 1471063446 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :春切り < 1471063449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1471063503 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :While "harakiri" is, well, harakiri. Or seppuku. (腹切り, 切腹) < 1471063554 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gut cutting < 1471063588 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1471063591 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google chose a weird reading of 腹切り, i thought orin was making a pun on fungible. < 1471063614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something. < 1471063852 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently its been a busy night here? < 1471063868 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything worth scrolling up for? < 1471064333 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a brief attempt to reimplement the voight-kampff test disguised as an ethical question < 1471064813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i linked to relevant precedent tsh < 1471064872 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471065310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tsh < 1471065312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471065335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn tsh seems helpful < 1471065339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tsh': tsh seems helpful < 1471065355 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should help < 1471065362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know hth < 1471065378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the words of Jim from Darths & Droids: ooh, that's even better! < 1471065383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast selpqurtq < 1471065385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command \ wisdom/tsh//tsh seems helpful < 1471065397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast sqelpqurtq < 1471065399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tsh//tsh seems hurtful < 1471065401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1471065404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIES < 1471065426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should finish reading D&D < 1471065463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast sqeemsqoundsq < 1471065466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds hurtful < 1471065509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast skur.*korrendousk < 1471065511 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds horrendous < 1471065563 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... why are you speaking alien to hackego, and why does he seem to understand you? < 1471065585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is an alien hth < 1471065613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hhgttg < 1471065614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhgttg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471065667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: skkntrisqastvsk hth < 1471065668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it thhgttg < 1471065687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? h2g2 < 1471065688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h2g2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471065703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockingly, we may not have a wisdom for it? < 1471065712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1471065809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's ais523 who is an alien, i thought that was well established. < 1471065839 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one alien? < 1471065933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. the rest are zombies, artificial intelligences, disembodied ghosts on the internet or mutant carnivorous plants hth < 1471065954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may also be one dog, but we're not sure of it. < 1471065977 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch? < 1471067175 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7078:18f0:3d90:d9c5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471068097 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7078:18f0:3d90:d9c5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471068195 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3ce0:2402:87cc:dc56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471068376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471068883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471070209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Blood is thicker than water, but have you /seen/ oil!?" < 1471070238 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have you seen concrete? < 1471070383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen neutronium? < 1471070390 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471070406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty thick hth < 1471071195 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is apostasy is not apostasy? < 1471071224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oerjan: Neither of those are liquids < 1471071237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :concrete is a solid and neutronium is a reality-breaker < 1471071241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody say "glass" < 1471071259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I will remove you lungs < 1471071267 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1471071356 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1471072455 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1471072516 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1471073497 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: diamond, inside jupiter hth < 1471073512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That works < 1471073717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471074676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471074686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen a superhero with the ability to combine other people < 1471074747 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would the do it? < 1471074989 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Not sure, but I'm sure it would be cool < 1471075020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another interesting superpower: Sort of like Astral Projection, but with the added capability to then bring your body to you < 1471075270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, Probability manipulation is a fun power < 1471075955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people subscribe to the Fate view, which says that everything that ever happens happens because of some sort of orchestrated cosmic symphony < 1471075976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says everything happens for a reason (which is pleasant), but we don't have free will (which makes life hard) < 1471076027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other people say that the way the universe goes is up for us to decide, which says that we choose our own paths and those who do well did so because they earned it and a guilty criminal could have /not/ done it, so it's their fault. < 1471076044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free will is inspiring... but it also requires that nothing happen for a reason, which makes it sad when bad things happen < 1471076049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take the more practical approach < 1471076100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The human brain is largely random and impossible to predict, but ultimately has no meaningful form of free will because some actions are determinant and others are random, but none are controlled by some glorious, unified higher entity < 1471076115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which gives the ultimate view that humans don't have free will AND it's all meaningless < 1471076117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yay? < 1471078143 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471080397 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471080731 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471082189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471083754 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-eikyaysbtcrfswaz JOIN :#esoteric < 1471086876 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h150.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471087083 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471087323 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h150.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471089859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471089938 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471092191 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3ce0:2402:87cc:dc56 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471092849 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b49b:1045:68b6:cf9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471093161 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b49b:1045:68b6:cf9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471093678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49130 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+2127) 10Created Unfuck page < 1471093953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49131&oldid=49120 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+13) 10Added Unfuck to Language list < 1471093968 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471094237 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471094238 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471095284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49132&oldid=49129 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+764) 10 < 1471095585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49133&oldid=49132 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+17454) 10 < 1471095691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49134&oldid=49133 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+88) 10 < 1471095782 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471095852 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471096038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49135&oldid=49131 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+29) 10Added topaz and WINTERCAL < 1471097960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49136&oldid=49130 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+57) 10Edit: Clarified a sentence concerning good coding practice. < 1471098570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Kiwitrader14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49137&oldid=49126 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (-23) 10 < 1471099871 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471099990 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471100982 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471101012 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471102055 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471102359 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471102374 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471104868 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iotymjghxfkfzirc JOIN :#esoteric < 1471105625 0 :testoren!4a0f3ba5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.15.59.165 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1471106813 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471106839 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471109366 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this CaC VM is getting worse and worse... HackEgo is so lucky in comparison < 1471109548 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what vm? < 1471109562 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what problems are you experiencing? < 1471109570 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got one a couple of days ago < 1471109583 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 3 < 1471109601 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yesterday i couldn't access it and had to reboot from the control panel < 1471109912 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's just getting write errors on the storage device... < 1471109941 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...periodically causing the FS to be remounted read-only, sometimes locking the VM up completely < 1471110033 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's one of the 512MB/10GB $35/lifetime VMs.) < 1471110046 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a $70 < 1471110061 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for $21 because discounts < 1471110068 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually deleted the thing and set it up again but it didn't improve... all I got out of it was a changed IP ;) < 1471110137 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long have you been using it? < 1471110149 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I paid $17.50... january 2015 < 1471110201 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that doesn't sound too bad < 1471110204 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, since my attitude was that I'd get it to see how bad it would be I wasn't unduly disappointed < 1471110228 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has been misbehaving for most of that time. < 1471110233 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :most? < 1471110237 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a year? < 1471110245 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1471110250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I wrote < 1471110254 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been like that for ages < 1471110259 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471110272 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use it for? < 1471110282 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just curious about the type of load etc < 1471110320 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471110330 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm currently only using it for weechat in 2 channels but i was planning to move arin.ga over there < 1471110333 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtually no load. It has a homepage http://64.137.252.151/ and mroman's Burlesque shell. < 1471110346 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471110352 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish to report a bug < 1471110357 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picture is all blurry < 1471110359 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls fix < 1471110367 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's a feature. < 1471110373 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken by design < 1471110410 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worked hard on that picture, for probably an hour in gimp! Don't dis it!!!1 < 1471110430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these things always take longer than they should ;-) ) < 1471110470 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about that burlesque shell? < 1471110478 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see it < 1471110488 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google burlesque shell < 1471110494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yorehab.com/burlesque-shell-seat-purple/ < 1471110494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: » Burlesque Shell Seat Purple YoWorld Price Guide and YoWorld Fan Site < 1471110496 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just curious) < 1471110499 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's not it) < 1471110526 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google brulesque programming language < 1471110532 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Burlesque < 1471110541 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, close enough. < 1471110578 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :from there you can find http://mroman.ch/burlesque/ which has a link to the shell < 1471110598 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I don't give a direct link because that may change) < 1471110629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was assuming cac gave you an ip? < 1471110645 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did < 1471110661 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they'll give me another one if I decide to set up the VM from scratch again < 1471110680 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's what you mean < 1471110684 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1471110694 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they changed it without notice < 1471110716 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be interesting, but no, they have not done that yet < 1471110780 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471110851 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I have a Debian system on there... it's just conceivable that it doesn't agree with VMware. < 1471110862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't really believe it. < 1471110918 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could, perhaps, drop the errors=remount-ro flag from the fstab < 1471110972 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just for fun) < 1471111212 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got ubuntu and then used this https://github.com/drizzt/vps2arch < 1471111361 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471111766 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471113649 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1471114054 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49138&oldid=49134 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (-23) 10 < 1471114656 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1471116795 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117027 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117031 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1471117031 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117132 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8469:f7da:88a3:89c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117431 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471117893 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8469:f7da:88a3:89c1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471118070 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471118144 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471118338 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471118406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471119415 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471119499 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471120217 0 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seconds < 1471125435 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471126133 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471126455 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h135.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471127385 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471127548 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471128113 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471128469 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471129350 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471129407 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471129577 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471129898 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My roommate just sent http://imgur.com/KTVaVW1 to me, and I had a flashback to one of those 0 == 1 "proofs" < 1471129994 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there's quite clearly a five++ in there. < 1471130051 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Yes, overthinking is something I am proud of. < 1471130051 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471130074 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471130091 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471130134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: maybe you should think on that before making such a bold claim < 1471130145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is helping!
< 1471130160 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Which bold claim? < 1471130191 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one you just told lambdabot to relay to oerjan < 1471130202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. It's what I'm good at. < 1471130272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471130293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget to comment my code. My art... do not ask about my art. My physical strength is pretty low - I can't pull myself up onto a ledge if it's higher than my shoulders (probably if it's higher than my elbows, I need to actually write these things down.) My memory is also lacking, as suggested in that last comment. < 1471130297 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course I'm attracted to the circularity. < 1471130313 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, tell me, int-e, what am I to be proud of but my overthinking? < 1471130324 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: is that js? what even does incrementing an object mean? < 1471130358 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same as setting it to NaN, usually < 1471130363 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The "object" is actually Number: 5, and I'm guessing there's implicit conversion. < 1471130365 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess its a native number object containing the value five? < 1471130366 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It is. It coerces it to an int in that case < 1471130377 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: oh you could start small. there's the remarkable feat of your continued existence < 1471130390 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION picks up a rock.
< 1471130400 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rock, you should be proud of yourself. < 1471130405 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For your continued existence. < 1471130409 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION places the rock back down.
< 1471130413 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that makes sense. so five++ means five=five.intValue()+1 < 1471130423 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why pyhton doesnt ++ < 1471130426 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1471130450 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3881:69cb:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471130508 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then setting properties on it coerces it back into Number? < 1471130523 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or no < 1471130532 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just silemtly fails < 1471130536 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1471130536 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, the coercion is in place < 1471130539 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a petition in germany to give an equal amount of male and female names to potatoes ... < 1471130555 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes from Number(5) to an int 5 < 1471130565 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, int 6, I guess < 1471130577 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: i meant setting the wtf of int 6 < 1471130585 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, int isn't an object in JS < 1471130592 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt even give an error < 1471130607 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no integer type in JavaScript, only floating point < 1471130616 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thx < 1471130623 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :js is so weird < 1471130626 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I forgot about that. What a nightmare < 1471130631 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in many cases is treated as an integer, and some implementations may even store them as integers too to increase speed < 1471130683 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, bitwise operations will treat the numbers as signed 32-bit integers and output a signed 32-bit integer too < 1471130752 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: if i ran that code and then did Number(5).wtf would it say potato < 1471130833 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, actually. < 1471130890 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, though < 1471130931 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. so each wrapped number gets its own instance? < 1471130935 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that would be equivalent to new Number(5).wtf, so it would give nothing < 1471130937 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471130998 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :some languages intern cache number objects for small integers. java, for instance < 1471131011 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to save memory < 1471131047 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, they are essentially read-only objects if you dont do some tricky reflection < 1471131065 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so theres no way to screw them up < 1471131502 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471131711 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iotymjghxfkfzirc QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471131814 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgjfsdsvtyklntfp JOIN :#esoteric < 1471132345 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471132624 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h135.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471133155 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471133713 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1471134176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471135226 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471135793 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471136167 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1471136257 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471136271 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471136271 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 132342Z 04010G30KT 280V060 4SM R06L/3000VP6000FT/D R06R/3500VP6000FT/D RA BR FEW005 BKN024 OVC040 20/19 A2975 RMK SF2SC5NS1 PRESFR SLP076 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1471136287 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN! < 1471136303 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1471136325 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to do with a saturday night? < 1471136330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia. hellonolongerboilyng. < 1471136348 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBOS < 1471136349 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 132354Z 06008KT 7SM OVC007 21/19 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP129 60000 T02060189 10228 20200 55004 < 1471136356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1471136356 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 132350Z 31005KT 9999 FEW026 SCT052 10/07 Q1011 RMK WIND 670FT 28011KT < 1471136357 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was surprisingly humane today. < 1471136368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471136368 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 1h 45m 17s ago: Yes, overthinking is something I am proud of. < 1471136373 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can't confirm that. it could be boiling rain < 1471136387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i looked at the temperature hth < 1471136402 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: found you < 1471136406 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boo! < 1471136418 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was hoping to scare oerjan
< 1471136421 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the thermometer could be inside a box, protected from the boiling water? < 1471136446 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to check again in a few minutes to be sure < 1471136512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think you're confusing this with the alderaan forecast hth < 1471136532 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! nolongerboily? < 1471136558 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamellomanj. did you know that oerjan is unscarable hth < 1471136561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily_ng_ hth < 1471136570 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilyng??? < 1471136579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um is unscarable the same as unscareable < 1471136583 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily-ng. A more refined boily for a better age. < 1471136585 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! eating is a good activity. < 1471136607 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Brought to you by the developers of aircrack-ng, presumably.) < 1471136641 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whats for supper? < 1471136645 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION munches on edible stuff. *munch* *munch* *munch*
< 1471136652 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"edible stuff" < 1471136663 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this stuff green biscuits? < 1471136678 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :leftovers from lunch. rice, beef, tofu and zucchini, bean sprouts and carrots. < 1471136683 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1471136691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the only green part is zucchinal hth < 1471136704 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a bag of hot wings flavored pretzels. so...yeah < 1471136708 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what? < 1471136720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is neither unscareable nor unscarable, but if you have to test either i prefer the former hth hth
< 1471136721 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still eating ^^ < 1471136727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471136753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wiktionary doesn't think scarable exists. < 1471136758 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscarable doesn't sound like a real word < 1471136765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym unscarrable < 1471136784 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscrabble. < 1471136788 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscorable < 1471136830 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's it! that's the ticket! but i probably would pwn you at english scrabble, and you'd wipe the floor with me in french < 1471136851 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471136858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also fail to find any real uses of "scarable" because they're swamped by either dictionary SEO or typos < 1471136877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or perhaps no one's ever used it) < 1471136899 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an #esoteric hapax legemenon! < 1471136903 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471136916 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: An un-scarab. < 1471136945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, i guess the real word would be spelt unscarrable. checking... < 1471136962 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unscrabble. < 1471136980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like scrabble, but you have to make anything that isn't a word in any language in the universe. < 1471136991 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it excessively difficult. < 1471137014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarrable gives at least one genuine hit, although wiktionary still doesn't know it. < 1471137057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the hit was "un-scarrable" < 1471137069 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's easy. you just invent an alphabet on the spot, assign to them sounds that are extremely difficult to make (e.g. the sound of a baby eating a puppy as they are torn about by tidal forces inside a black hole), and string them together randomly < 1471137205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You also have to map these to English letters for reasons which should hopefully be obvious if you've ever seen a Scrabble set. < 1471137274 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: whoever said unscrabble involved a scrabble set? < 1471137280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : itym unscarrable <-- damn i did it again. < 1471137284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I guess nobody. < 1471137293 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you need is a chess set. < 1471137300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471137316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily: that's it! that's the ticket! but i probably would pwn you at english scrabble, and you'd wipe the floor with me in french <-- norwegian hth < 1471137354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *legomenon. < 1471137362 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: both of us cheating with a dictionary takes all the fun out of it < 1471137383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only knows that word because of narbonic.
< 1471137405 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I play Scrabble I always do both player will use the Scrabble dictionary < 1471137420 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION .oO(it seems to take oerjan about 10 seconds per line to logread)
< 1471137427 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time limits could help too though < 1471137428 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a nodejs sandbox for my bot, and its pretty strong, i was wondering if you guys would help me find some exploits so i can try to patch them < 1471137440 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION .oO( speech bubbles! cool! )
< 1471137479 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a thought bubble. we don't need speech bubbles since we aren't being drawn into boxes on the chat, so every other text is assumed to be speech < 1471137516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks zzo38 could design a chess game isomorphic to scrabble. probably.
< 1471137569 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone could... < 1471137575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my backscroll reading may not always be chronological hth < 1471137592 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you seem to comment on it in chronological order tho < 1471137608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1471137656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i mean is that sometimes, i only go back because i realize i had been skipping stuff. < 1471137680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: You would have to be careful if you want to make a Node.js sandbox properly secure. One thing to do is to ensure that the prototype of the sandbox object is null, and don't put any other objects from the outside into the sandbox. < 1471137715 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But this can make it difficult to do anything meaningful, so you figure it out.....) < 1471137727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyone's ever made an irc client that uses speech bubbles
< 1471137751 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft has < 1471137752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Microsoft Comic Chat might? I don't know though < 1471137775 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: See ya later, [INSERT_NAME_HERE] < 1471137784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep looks like it < 1471137796 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471137802 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it crashes with common IRC servers (e.g. freenode), but puckipedia has a proxy to work around it < 1471137858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1471137923 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if possibly the V8 debugging interface might be usable for making a Node.js sandbox < 1471137955 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing an extension in C++ might also help, if you know how to do that < 1471138233 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I don't know if it works, because I have not tried, is to create function outside of the sandbox, and then a function inside the sandbox wraps it (perhaps create a function that takes a function and returns a function, and call it) and passes only primitives between the inside and outside. < 1471138371 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471138382 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running sandboxed scripts in a separate process is also something that has been suggested, so you can also try that. < 1471138719 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471138748 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471139258 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is still camped in here eh < 1471139287 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives boily a tent
< 1471139621 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wraps himself in the tent
< 1471140073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that was gamemanj's intent < 1471140118 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't mind. < 1471140141 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :off to night coma! < 1471140149 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GARTERBELT CHICKEN < 1471140206 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily and his chickens < 1471140449 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one was particularly attractive < 1471140473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at quintopia suspiciously
< 1471140496 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also looks at quintopia suspiciously
< 1471140517 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*writes "if oerjan looks at someone suspiciously, there's usually a reason." into book*) < 1471140528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :truthy < 1471140572 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe quintopia was referring to night coma < 1471140598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dubious hth < 1471140664 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's an obvious solution to that < 1471140681 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: define "this one" in your message, "this one was particularly attractive" < 1471140762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The supercogitating channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1471140906 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unattractive chickens don't wear garterbelts hth < 1471141113 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION underlines the line about oerjan's suspicions usually being correct
< 1471141136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then adds an additional note in the margin: "c.KTW/SJ-night"
< 1471141297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at gamemanj's note suspiciously
< 1471141666 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the fastest way to find the smallest power of 2 greater than x? < 1471141762 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you're implementing it in. < 1471141763 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, would it be faster to try right shift it until i get zero? or it with a left-shifted 1 til zero? god help if its actually do a log? < 1471141776 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say cython < 1471141779 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471141787 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shift will do it. If it does it fast, is another thing entirely. < 1471141799 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically the "fastest" implementation would be dependent on value size. < 1471141823 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you had 256 values, you may - or may not - find that an array is faster than doing the calculations. < 1471141824 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently python has a .bit_length() < 1471141825 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1471141851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't we already establish on a previous occasion that processors have specific instructions for this hth < 1471141881 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know why, it's a rare - and not that slow - operation... < 1471141884 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you didn't invite me???? < 1471141927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well it may be useful in code that needs to be particularly fast < 1471141942 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but why would someone need that operation? < 1471141953 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471141962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: to implement bigints, say < 1471141980 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please look at information relating to TAVERN VM and tell me if it is any good and other comment such as if there is any mistake or unclear. Do you think that 32K cells (each cell stores a signed 16-bit number) is sufficient for the program code for a text adventure game and other arbitrary read-only data? (RAM, vocabulary, and most text, would be stored in separate address spaces) < 1471141980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potentially. On the other hand, how do you feed in the number to this operation? < 1471141984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to know what's the first bit you need to start working at < 1471142020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Worst case scenario, you can cheat the system, especially if the program code can read from text/vocab memory. < 1471142034 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Like, write a brainfuck interpreter in program memory, < 1471142055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then put your *actual program* into a different address space. < 1471142092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program code cannot read anything from text or vocab memory; it can read and write RAM, although RAM is also limited to 32K cells. < 1471142196 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding an extension that would act like Z-machine's DIROUT 3 would allow reading from text memory, although another possible extension would just to allow reading text memory directly, which would be simpler and faster. < 1471142246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Text memory is also limited to 32K cells, although the text is packed, and the text memory is also bankswitched, so you can store a lot of data in there.) < 1471142349 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding a feature code and instruction opcode for TXT@ would allow to read the text memory; we can add this idea into the bug tracker or wiki. < 1471142364 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does text packing work? my best guess was always just "limiting text to a narrow range of ascii so that some bits can be discarded from each character" < 1471142402 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at the documentation if you want to know its working. < 1471142516 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vocabulary packing does limit text to a narrow range of ASCII though; the VOCAB.BIN lump maps vocabulary words to signed 16-bit numbers (any word not listed has a value of zero). < 1471142753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471143684 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471143946 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471144384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471145045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any known people have a finite Erdos-Shusaku-Morley-Bacon number? < 1471145078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are shusaku and morley again < 1471145088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Go and Chess < 1471145139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, would the existence of a Go-playing AI that plays against Shusaku make anyone able to have a Shusaku number of 1?) < 1471145252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do that when he's been dead over a century twh < 1471145341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is this another one of those voight-kampff test questions < 1471145376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: See, I was afraid someone would say that < 1471145381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1471145417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1471145437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1471145442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery twh < 1471145444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1471145532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471145537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1286) I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471145825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask myname there is a petition in germany to give an equal amount of male and female names to potatoes ... <-- does that include spelling it as Kartoffel/innen twh < 1471145825 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471145877 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with overthinking < 1471145907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1471145911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. < 1471145932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append gamemanj He will overthink everything except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471145938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'gamemanj': gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471145955 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471145977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd gamemanj sb exb, exb < 1471145979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1471145985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd gamemanj//sb exb, exb < 1471145990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gamemanj//gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything, except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471146001 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...go on, explain what you are doing < 1471146013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am amending your wisdom entry hth < 1471146042 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting method of adding one comma... < 1471146129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the alternative would be copy/pasting < 1471146148 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of wondering how "sb exb, exb" works < 1471146164 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it's actually an esoteric language, like a cyclic tag system or something < 1471146182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is that sed's s command allows almost any delimiter character, in this case b < 1471146208 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471146216 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets out his TODO list
< 1471146248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes "Send patch to maxpowa/Inumuta so that it interprets everything beginning with 's' as a replacement. This, of course, is simply a side effect of proper interpretation."
< 1471146262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1471146288 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font now has playing cards! < 1471146290 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🂠🂡🂢🂣🂤🂥🂦🂧🂨🂩🂪🂫🂬🂭🂮🂱🂲🂳🂴🂵🂶🂷🂸🂹🂺🂻🂼🂽🂾 < 1471146294 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🃁🃂🃃🃄🃅🃆🃇🃈🃉🃊🃋🃌🃍🃎🃏🃑🃒🃓🃔🃕🃖🃗🃘🃙🃚🃛🃜🃝🃞🃟 < 1471146300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!!!! < 1471146311 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🃑 < 1471146315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which card is this < 1471146321 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ace of clubs < 1471146337 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm not good with cards. < 1471146345 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was what I meant to copy: 🂡 < 1471146373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: hm i guess i forgot to ask whether you want to be assumed male, but since you didn't protest i assume that's all right. < 1471146412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471146431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might be overthinking that.
< 1471146453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I try to catch myself when I make assumptions too (though if someone else uses a gender pronoun in reference to someone, I'll base any further communications on that) < 1471146464 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also added a bunch of those crazy Shift-JIS characters < 1471146523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋌㋍㋎㋏㎙㎚㎛㎜㎝㎞㎟ < 1471146523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎠㎡㎢㎣㎤㎥㎦㎧㎨㎩㎪㎫㎬㎭㎮㎯㎰㎱㎲㎳㎴㎵㎶㎷㎸㎹㎺㎻㎼㎽㎾㎿ < 1471146526 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㏀㏁㏂㏃㏄㏅㏆㏇㏈㏉㏊㏋㏌㏍㏎㏏㏐㏑㏒㏓㏔㏕㏖㏗㏘㏙㏚㏛㏜㏝ < 1471146565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a idea of new kind of format of Magic: the Gathering cards. Select a block and play block constructed, but before the game starts add a Rochester draft and then sealed, the draft/sealed consisting entirely of cards whioch are not legal in the constructed block being played (banned cards may be included in the draft/sealed). < 1471146635 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your constructed deck may include a 15-card sideboard. Whatever your constructed deck size is (not counting sideboard) is your minimum deck size (which may be reduced by conspiracies), and whatever your constructed sideboard includes is your minimum sideboard size. < 1471146667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly notices the "man" in gamemanj's nick
< 1471146712 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play is then scored per-duel ante, with each card legal in the block worth 2 points, and other cards worth 1 point each, and the game worth 1 point. < 1471146753 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1471146818 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I just noticed that I drew ㎱ as rs instead of ns. I have no idea how that happened < 1471146883 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conspiracies that are placed into the command zone at the beginning of the game do not count toward your minimum sideboard size. < 1471146907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Does your font editor allow out of bounds drawing? < 1471146913 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471146921 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it is clear. < 1471146947 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somtimes I have stray pixels in a character < 1471146987 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to finish my program that catches stray pixels < 1471147030 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add additional conventional basic lands into your deck when creating it after draft/sealed or when altering the deck by exchanging cards with sideboard, but these extra lands will be lost if they are ever placed into the sideboard. < 1471147032 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471147042 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ㏒(2) < 1471147043 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘㏒’ < 1471147097 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒=log in ㏒(2) < 1471147098 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147128 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒=log; in ㏒(2) < 1471147130 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147166 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or is this let not the same as lisp let < 1471147230 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471147251 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how is lisp let < 1471147284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "㏒" == "log" < 1471147285 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1471147294 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes it quite clear... < 1471147348 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒ = log in ㏒(2) < 1471147350 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147411 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: in lisp you can make a temporary variable with the let function. but haskell doesn't seem to work like that < 1471147421 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471147495 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒ = 1 in ㏒ < 1471147496 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147510 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = 1 in x < 1471147512 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1471147526 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :que? < 1471147569 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㄋ = 1 in ㄋ < 1471147571 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1471147574 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a ㏒ b = log a / log b in (㏒2) 4 < 1471147576 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.0 < 1471147603 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I see, it thinks ㏒ is a symbol? < 1471147612 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1471147612 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory '㏒' < 1471147614 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : OtherSymbol < 1471147623 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ㏒ < 1471147630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+33D2 SQUARE LOG \ UTF-8: e3 8f 92 UTF-16BE: 33d2 Decimal: ㏒ \ ㏒ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 006C 006F 0067 < 1471147670 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that grow from square trees? < 1471147719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㏊㏊㏊ < 1471147723 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but they cost a lot of money to buy < 1471147745 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋍ < 1471147748 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :£4,480... the price started going up after Minecraft became popular < 1471147775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: My last two messages may have been... complete and obvious lies.) < 1471147853 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⛉⛊⛋⛌ < 1471147910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ㏒ < 1471147921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0020 SPACE \ UTF-8: 20 UTF-16BE: 0020 Decimal: \ \ Category: Zs (Separator, Space) \ Bidi: WS (Whitespace) \ \ U+33D2 SQUARE LOG \ UTF-8: e3 8f 92 UTF-16BE: 33d2 Decimal: ㏒ \ ㏒ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 006C 006F 0067 < 1471147960 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That symbol is a pain to write < 1471147978 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎯ < 1471148035 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎨ < 1471148088 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎜㋌ < 1471148107 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :millimetres of mercury < 1471148119 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird unit < 1471148159 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for why the japanese wanted SI units to fit into a kanji space... I have no goddamn clue < 1471148202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: the ghc compiler defers to the unicode standard for categorizing non-ascii characters. which left a few rare usages breaking when the unicode standard changed how it treats ... superscript numbers, i think it was. < 1471148218 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can approximate Japanese typesetting rules with little more than half and full width characters. < 1471148225 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 𐌹𐌾𐌶 x = log x in 𐌹𐌾𐌶 10 < 1471148226 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.302585092994046 < 1471148272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory '²' < 1471148274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : OtherNumber < 1471148279 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: wow you used some characters that aren't in my font! wow! < 1471148293 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, that an SI unit fits 1 kanji cell, especially when doing vertical writing. < 1471148304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did they fix that for 8.0 < 1471148316 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Gothic < 1471148332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x² = 4 in x² < 1471148334 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1471148362 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471148412 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a ▼ b = log a / log b in (▼ 10) 100 < 1471148414 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.0 < 1471148416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, maybe it was combining letter chars in general < 1471148425 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Is this one in your font? < 1471148435 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1471148444 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, a downward triangle < 1471148523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I see, for vertical writing < 1471148554 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would by annoying to have si units be sideways within a vertical text < 1471148576 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's already annoying when it happens with names) < 1471148579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ́ < 1471148579 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 204 129 < 1471148585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ́ < 1471148589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 769 < 1471148615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory $ last " ́" < 1471148616 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NonSpacingMark < 1471148648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ 'a'++drop 1 " ́" < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘[Char]’ with actual type ‘Char’ < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘(++)’, namely ‘'a'’ < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely ‘'a' ++ drop 1 " \769"’ < 1471148653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471148657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ 'a':drop 1 " ́" < 1471148659 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : á < 1471148671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let á = 1 in á < 1471148672 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:6: lexical error at character '\769' < 1471148676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471148681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still broken, that < 1471148771 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the one about playing chess with dead men a voight-kampff question? no. is the question about text packing a voight-kampff question? definitely not. is the presentation of the concept of an attractive chicken in a garterbelt a secret voight-kampff test? definitely! < 1471148957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thx tdh < 1471149020 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:453c:e1f6:f69b:8544 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471149469 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh firefox is being a vixen < 1471149477 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, would that chicken pass the voight-kampff test? < 1471149485 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not working for me the way I want < 1471149504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is working wrong and what way do you want to work? < 1471149511 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :question, what's a voight-kampff test? < 1471149528 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't showing my font, it's showing some other font < 1471149545 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I think they will tell you in Wikipedia; I looked it up it redirect to a different file it tell you what it means. < 1471149644 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, It's showing some of the characters in courier new < 1471149683 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Are these characters always in pairs? < 1471149706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is coppro/scshunt twh < 1471149754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Then use a different program to test the font < 1471149781 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing to try is to try making a SVG document and see if it will display using the proper font if you do that. < 1471149817 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm <-- this displays ok for me in chrome, but in firefox < 1471149887 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/ARGH.PNG <-- I see this < 1471149944 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: It shows up in the correct Oren-Approved International Font for me < 1471149965 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there possibility to download bitmap font? < 1471149977 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: in firefox? < 1471149981 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: red dragon mahjong tile is broken I think < 1471149981 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In firefox. < 1471149990 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox version 48.0, < 1471149991 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also joker playing card < 1471149993 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Arch Linux, < 1471150026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't think there are any more details to state. < 1471150055 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. so maybe my install of firefox is broken < 1471150065 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(windows 7) < 1471150087 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. Maybe it just doesn't like webfonts. < 1471150112 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well I have the same version of firefox < 1471150145 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just go searching through about:settings. < 1471150162 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, it's "about:config". < 1471150212 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfx.downloadable_fonts < 1471150214 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5837:4a1a:b115:4019 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471150240 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(useful elements: .disable_cache, .enabled, .woff2.enabled) < 1471150298 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfx.missing_fonts.notify is also a potentially useful setting. < 1471150745 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finagling with the css... < 1471150796 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reveals that chrome exhibits the same behaviour if I reorder the fonts to font-family: monospace, neoletters < 1471150829 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but firefox appears to be taking the system monospace font first, even if the css says otherwise < 1471150859 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Infocom/runic area of UTCE still has ten unused slots, so these may be filled with additional common runes not yet included, as well as possibly the Verne runes. < 1471150888 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Did you try using the font in a SVG document instead of a HTML document and see if it works better? < 1471150929 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:64ab:739e:eb54:5df6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471150960 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know if it works or not, but you could try it) < 1471150974 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471151292 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think the problem is in firefox, not the font < 1471151308 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works fine in Chrome, and in this terminal session as well < 1471151501 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly something is wrong with my css < 1471151522 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1471151540 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it worked in linux < 1471151545 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wtf < 1471151679 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471151801 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...what's the best way to take a very long list of strings, and find the longest one that matches at position 0 of another list? I have two thoughts, but would like to hear other thoughts. < 1471151810 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of another string < 1471151909 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471151920 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Does the very long list of strings change often, or does the other string change often? < 1471151947 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long list is persistent. the other string changes < 1471151971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps pre-sort the long list so that the longer strings are first. That way, when a string matches, you can immediately return. < 1471151993 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471152015 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was one of my thoughts < 1471152070 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471152074 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still requires a linear search through the whole thing every time, and, for each thing in the list, a linear time string comparison < 1471152081 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's definitely slow as balls < 1471152089 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i use a trie y/n < 1471152090 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try turning the list of strings into a tree. < 1471152134 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471152257 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i should use a DAFSA < 1471152391 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471152396 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1471152528 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a DAFSA is probs the way to go. But compiling one from a list will be a pain. I hope someone has done this before and published it... < 1471152549 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey nice https://pypi.python.org/pypi/DAWG/0.7.1 < 1471153773 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SO GOOD < 1471153793 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471153817 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471153838 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471153885 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471154098 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might take up more memory if converted to a tree, unless some compact representation of the tree in memory is used which can also be processed easily; one idea is to allow each node to contain multiple characters instead of necessarily only one per node. < 1471154244 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Three of the Powerline characters you have are things I intended already to include in the Texas Instruments block for UTCE (the TI-92 has some of them in its character set), so I may include the others also. < 1471154799 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471154892 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471157194 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471157223 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471158225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471158264 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im complacent and irritable because Im trying to live a great life for god. im seeing visions, ive astral projected and I want to learn everything on the internet. I have a plan to study all subjects online but I am stirr crazy wait on the time I can pursue this objective. I have no friends because of what i believe in and im lonelier than a kid with nothing to do < 1471158274 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im desperate. what should i do, INTERNET? < 1471158292 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome almightynsx < 1471158299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1471158345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dafuq? < 1471158355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Have you been diagnosed with anything? < 1471158355 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEFUQ YOU < 1471158358 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Well, to start with there is no god. < 1471158359 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471158363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1471158381 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been diagnosed with schizophrenia < 1471158404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right < 1471158430 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everyone is atheist, but if you are seeing stuff that is not there then it is hallucinations, regardless of how good or bad it is, it is still hallucinations I think. < 1471158442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with http://timecube.2enp.com/ < 1471158518 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I consider myself as panendeist) < 1471158532 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the visions i have I believe are real < 1471158575 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no reason to believe they are real, and have reason to believe that your senses are fallible. < 1471158587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone's senses can be fallible. < 1471158589 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being in esoteric channel you should all know the visions can be real when practiced right in the context of mysicism or new age spirituality < 1471158610 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how can i prove they are not fallible < 1471158619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but it is still hallucination, and still you cannot know for sure < 1471158621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Have you tried reading time cube? < 1471158633 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't, because I can demonstrate human senses are fallible. < 1471158638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the thing; the fallibility of the senses is unfalsifiable < 1471158638 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no seems boring < 1471158639 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: You can't; the best way is scientific method if possible, but even that is not perfect; only mathematics is perfect. < 1471158641 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a channel for esoteric programming languages, not for esotericism. < 1471158662 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well, proving they're infallible is unfalsifiable. Proving they're fallible is trivial. :) < 1471158674 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought it was all esoteric topics < 1471158676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yep xD < 1471158703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Though, really, all esotericness would likely still be accepted < 1471158717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes pikhq is correct. (Of course we are not always on topic (often we are not), but still, we are not the one to know a lot about esotericism in this channel, so if you ask you are unlikely to get the answer you are looking for I think) < 1471158720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs are just what happen when your application of esotericism is in programming < 1471158742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you have a question, the best thing to do is to ask. < 1471158744 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "Esotericism" tends to entail certain religious, mystic, or spiritual practices. < 1471158750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Also, learning "everything on the internet" is impossible < 1471158754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if, nobody knows the answers! < 1471158755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, really? < 1471158755 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Esoteric programming has little to do with that. < 1471158761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471158769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Esotericism was basically the same as surrealism < 1471158780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like Dali surrealism) < 1471158812 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it refers to "secret knowledge". < 1471158815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471158822 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a secret teaching for the occult < 1471158830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Here's a list of every website on the internet, which may be of use: http://www.internetlivestats.com/watch/websites/ < 1471158851 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so this isn't the channel for esoteric projection? or channelling projects? < 1471158856 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you can have a proper list of every website on the internet, and even if you do have it, it is not the entire internet anyways. < 1471158872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait < 1471158872 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're using "esoteric" in a vastly more literal sense, to say "intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people". < 1471158874 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It isn't, but if you have a question, ask anyways. Probably nobody knows, but how do you know until it is asked? < 1471158879 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it isn't linky < 1471158883 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have develpoed a study plan to learn almost study on the internet < 1471158891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah < 1471158895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a start < 1471158895 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can apply esotericism to esoteric programming languages, though, I will be damned pleased. < 1471158898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless it is probably better to ask elsewhere if there is a better place to ask. < 1471158907 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: I suggest starting with formal logic, personally. < 1471158938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good idea < 1471158950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Learn formal logic; this is 100% the best place to start < 1471159058 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PART #esoteric : < 1471159073 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you all for your support' < 1471159079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formal logic is good, but how good it is, depend what you want to do. < 1471159146 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics is perfect, but to figure out how the laws of physics are working you must make the scientific experiment, and such experiment is not as perfect as mathematics. < 1471159341 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many people in this channel is atheist, but what is the actual proportion (approximately)? < 1471159400 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. Probably much higher than average. < 1471159430 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the average must be the average of something. Average of what? < 1471159441 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average in the population at large. < 1471159473 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All human population of the world or only of English speaking people or what? < 1471159525 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. I was figuring more of the IRC-using population, TBH. < 1471159531 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471159550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the IRC-using population also more likely to be atheist? < 1471159556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know what you mean now, I think. < 1471159562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know? < 1471159578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply from being nerdy < 1471159589 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that much is true. < 1471159669 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I do not consider myself atheist but I consider myself as panendeist, although since it is difficult to know exactly what such classifications are meaning and some people's classifications may consider my beliefs as atheist even though I don't quite think so. < 1471159674 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want to socialize on facebook? < 1471159724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1471159742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Facebook < 1471159811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have the impression facebook is popular here, either. (i don't have it.) < 1471159832 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm friends on Facebook with all the #esoteric people who use Facebook. :P < 1471159953 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471160146 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471160503 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should to invent Unusenet it is same protocol NNTP like Usenet but the name is always start "un" optionally followed by a number, and then the dot, and then the rest of the name. If the number is specified then it specifies how to find the central server, for example if the name is "un2.net.example.aaa.bbbb" then the central server is "example.net". < 1471160577 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all add me on facebook almightynsx@yahoo.com < 1471160624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Facebook so I won't do that < 1471160649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Facebook added Gopher support would you use it? < 1471160752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1471160767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would it take? < 1471160794 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebook is not useful to me. < 1471160828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you want to connect with friends and the world around you? < 1471160895 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but no one likes me because of the topics i am dealing with in my life < 1471160897 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that just by talking to them, although in many cases I do not need to. < 1471160922 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new age spirituality, visions of god, learning everything on the internet < 1471160951 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As has been said before, you cannot "learn everything on the internet". < 1471160964 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can too < 1471160969 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ill prove that one day < 1471160973 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i do it < 1471161032 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way you try to parse that, it won't work even if you are success you will still fail. < 1471161046 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471161250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can find a book about such thing as new age spirituality, visions of god, but possibly you don't find? Then you must write a book. But of course book is not the only one, also computer, too. < 1471161351 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are trying to ask other people how to interpret whatever hallucinations you are having, then I do not know how I could possibly answer such question, because I am not you. < 1471161480 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471161483 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advise < 1471161533 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to know advise on how to go about learning everything on the internet and if my visions are because im schizophrenic or because god loves me < 1471161630 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it is because schizophrenic (although I am not a doctor and do not know much of schizophrenia so I cannot say this properly), but maybe there can be possibility to be both? Or, they can be inspire you for such thing. < 1471161721 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the devil and talk to him audiably and i wonder why im not like the rest of the world < 1471161726 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why i see these things < 1471161761 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try asking a doctor and see if they know the answer. Possibly they don't, but I think it is worth a try. < 1471161792 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i go to see my doctor in two days < 1471161797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471161797 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill ask then < 1471161806 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they dont know much about hullucinations < 1471161822 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask someone who does know. < 1471161893 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you cannot learning everything on the internet; there are many different protocols, port numbers, file formats, languages, passwords, encrypted data, and other stuff; and also temporal, which also makes it impossible. < 1471161920 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471161921 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard of opencourseware? < 1471161957 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I think you can learn some things from that < 1471161993 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to spend 5-10 years learning all the internet opencourseware < 1471162016 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose you can do that at least. < 1471162122 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if i combined all the sciences and learn them all i would know all science which in on is all conscience con=with science=knowledge < 1471162149 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that is impossible. < 1471162152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471162172 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, just if the word can be combine like such does not even make it possible. < 1471162258 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471162271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems it is how etymology of "conscience", but just because it is how etymology does not do. < 1471162283 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i would have a very good working knowledge of the universe, would you think? < 1471162324 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more you know, more you can know that you don't know. < 1471162356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The less you know, more you can know that you don't know. < 1471162432 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1471162434 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partially, but also if you know then it must be something you know. Even all law of physics and stuff all scientist even won't know perfectly! < 1471162444 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that i wont know all but i atleast will know alot < 1471162471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471162479 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of the plan though? any advise on the idea of learning all opencourseware? < 1471162480 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you would know more than if you don't study it at all. < 1471162494 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is good to learn. < 1471162508 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im scared in going to die if i learn all that < 1471162513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how much is all opencourseware anyways though, so I cannot answer. < 1471162529 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone will die regardless; it is the matter of time. < 1471162601 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well im a christian a bigger question that ive pondered is i might go to hell for learning all of this. what do you say to that? < 1471162619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is irrelevant. < 1471162631 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also do not think that is how it is supposed to work anyways. < 1471162659 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I am not Christian) < 1471162670 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What denomination are you anyways though? < 1471162681 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non denom < 1471162706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471162785 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whys that important < 1471162826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see why you might expect to go to hell for learning all of this, mainly. < 1471162862 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you learn from it? < 1471162871 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any advise on that would be detrimental < 1471162940 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you are nondenominational Christian. I do not actually know a lot about such things anyways to answer such question, but if answer is posted, then it can help if anyone does know how to answer your question better based on that < 1471162963 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471163375 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the advise this is the best conversation ive had in awhile < 1471163474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes by hallucination can be inspiration of something, such as, I think Principia Discordia was written like that. < 1471163551 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when you are sleeping, can be dream and can be hallucination and that too can be inspiration of something, such as, I have seen a chess puzzle that was claimed to be invented in that way. < 1471163602 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live my dreams < 1471163632 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471163645 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dream, remember them and believe w/e im dreaming about has very important implications to my life. i live and act this way in my dreams and believe they are real < 1471163730 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently i was dreaming of crossing railroad tracks while carrying something and a woman was chasing me to make me stop. then when i finally gave in to her my heart felt immensely great when i did that action in my dream i even woke up and started thinking and talking about it < 1471163756 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel my dreams are real some how < 1471165435 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471165443 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!boobies < 1471165450 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong room :/ < 1471168648 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:453c:e1f6:f69b:8544 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471170445 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Principia Discordia"... I've heard of it, and have a way to check against it's calendar via an extremely indirect method, should it matter, but I don't understand what it's "about". Is today Zaraday, or was that yesterday? < 1471170516 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh. It seems that the reference provider is not one, but two days out. Unfortunate.) < 1471171197 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, what is Zaraday... < 1471171431 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471171512 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471171843 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471173190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: SoundHound was finally useful to me. < 1471173484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundpooch < 1471175194 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471175236 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471175366 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471178899 0 :ni291187!~u931732@2a02:810d:12bf:ee84:11ab:e5ea:c8f9:7d8b JOIN :#esoteric < 1471178927 0 :ni291187!~u931732@2a02:810d:12bf:ee84:11ab:e5ea:c8f9:7d8b PART #esoteric : < 1471179548 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: A holyday named after the apostle Zarathud hth < 1471180000 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471180000 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471180415 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471181265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49139 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+1565) 10first version of page < 1471181301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49140&oldid=49139 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+63) 10added implementation link < 1471181547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49141&oldid=49140 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+519) 10added more information < 1471181683 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49142&oldid=49141 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+47) 10Added file extension info < 1471181738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Actuallyallama14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49143&oldid=47293 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+80) 10actual info! < 1471181910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49144&oldid=49142 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+136) 10 < 1471182398 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471183208 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183265 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183292 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471183313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth//Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!! < 1471183541 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth is not as crazy as busy beaver growth hth < 1471183589 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471183611 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183669 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluffy critters of the Canadian forest are fundamentally crazy. < 1471183678 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as the FCCFFC theorem. < 1471184264 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1471184287 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471184697 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471185585 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471185788 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471186493 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1471186875 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471186997 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I solved the problem with firefox by deleting firefox and installing a fresh copy < 1471187051 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf first, ask questions later < 1471187095 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you literally outfoxed it < 1471187105 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a version of "rm" which acts like those things from Stargate < 1471187125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot once to stun, twice to kill, three times... IDK what happens on three times, but it would probably remove all traces. < 1471187246 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called a recycle bin < 1471187320 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I used the recycle bin, acutally, since this is a windows 7 computer < 1471187363 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could've just created a new profile < 1471187493 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1471187499 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try that < 1471189350 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, worked! < 1471190075 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471191250 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471191320 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471191321 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471193993 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FEMALE CHICKEN < 1471194776 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PART #esoteric : < 1471196824 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471198578 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471201005 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7014:5f89:22fd:b703 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471201879 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471202431 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471202473 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471202890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471203096 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :arf_> isowner(from,(dat) => {try {client.say(dat[0], eval(dat[2]));} catch (er) {client.say(dat[1], er);}},(dat) => {client.say(dat[0],"Permission denied")},[to,from,mdata.rest]) < 1471203101 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i overdo it? < 1471203111 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/arf_>/ / < 1471203232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471204299 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471204355 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7014:5f89:22fd:b703 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471204404 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I have implemented the Discordian calendar in ifMUD too < 1471204429 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it uses the server's timezone, and does not include holidays other than St.Tib's day. < 1471204533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(St.Tib's day is a intercalary day) < 1471205195 0 :joinBot!~joinBot@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471205217 0 :joinBot!~joinBot@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471205531 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207065 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471207812 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207833 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207933 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:64ab:739e:eb54:5df6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471208066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471208654 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll note that if I ever go to ifMUD. < 1471208657 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c862:6357:bf9e:431 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471208703 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471209857 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471209898 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471210325 0 :juffree!~juffree@71.56.26.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471210714 0 :juffree!~juffree@71.56.26.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471211901 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :are turtle graphics strings considered esolangs in somesense? Specially if they started out as the result of a Lindenmeyer-system substitution? < 1471211965 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471212175 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you defined the "complete" language (defining the Lindenmeyer-system definition language, and the accepted turtle graphics results) as an esolang? < 1471213050 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgjfsdsvtyklntfp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1471213618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471215233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When human cloning is a thing, how will it fit into a family? < 1471215247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what's your clone's wife called? < 1471215272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A clone is genetically the same as a twin sibling (unless you modify their genes), but they can be several years younger < 1471215288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you might treat them as a brother/sister, making a clone's wife your sister-in-law < 1471215308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait...) < 1471215376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :52% of identical twins that have one gay member are both gay < 1471215379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that settles that < 1471215393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no all-powerful gay gene that singlehandedly determines orientation < 1471215451 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1471215466 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a source for that 52% < 1471215480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Crap, no < 1471215484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wikipedia xD < 1471215488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will check the citation < 1471215500 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what article < 1471215503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bailey JM, Pillard, RC (1991). "A Genetic Study of Male Sexual Orientation". Archives of General Psychiatry. 48 (12): 1089–96. doi:10.1001/archpsyc.1991.01810360053008. PMID 1845227. < 1471215527 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, 1991 < 1471215533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah < 1471215536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The study has been criticized for possible selection bias, in that gay twins are more likely to participate < 1471215544 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if a repeating study will,yield the same result < 1471215551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Good idea < 1471215567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 52% is still rather far away from ~100% < 1471215568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :52% sounds like way too high < 1471215580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: This is only when at least one is gay < 1471215599 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so‹ < 1471215623 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ypu count these as independent or close, it should be way less < 1471215623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: As in, if you identical twin is gay, the study finds that in 52% of cases, you're gay too < 1471215634 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understood < 1471215636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471215697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since identical twins' DNA is virtually identical, this casts /serious/ doubt on the idea of a "gay gene" < 1471215747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(keep in mind, I'm not saying that this means that- since being gay is the result of nurture- this changes anything about gay rights; just because it's not genetic doesn't mean it's invalid; but now we can't use the gay gene argument any more) < 1471215756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we" being those of us who would < 1471215785 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, if it has _nothing_ to do with genes (which is what i'd assume) it should be way more towards the general percentage < 1471215825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes < 1471215859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: But this is just debunking the typical interpretation of a "gay gene"- some sort of all-powerful gene that, when active, makes you gay in 100% of cases and when not present makes you straight < 1471215865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how this explains bisexuals, I don't know) < 1471215883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where, no matter how you're raised, the presence of such a gene will make you gay < 1471215901 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what wikipedia article is this from < 1471215902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a related note < 1471215916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Twin_studies < 1471215928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably jumping to conclusions too fast < 1471215933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But on a related note < 1471215980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that transgender...ness is the result of your mothers body giving too much or too little testosterone to a developing fetus, causing its body to develop incorrectly against its genes < 1471216006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not sure if this is true, and it probably isn't. But it might be. I don't know.) < 1471216026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this leads me to wondering if identical twins have ever developed where that happened to one but not the other < 1471216040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Causing identical twins of different genders < 1471216079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, a later study (2000) found results closer to the population average < 1471216103 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am wondering how many of those gay twins are attracted to each other < 1471216120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Let's not think about that < 1471216130 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what number was it < 1471216134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4] < 1471216145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Probably 100% of them when they also have narcissistic personality disorder < 1471216161 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471216189 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2000 study < 1471216422 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471216756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Situs inversus is interesting < 1471216797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do americans with Situs inversus use their left had when pledging allegiance to the flag of the united states of america in life and in death? < 1471216913 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471216975 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471217352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471218707 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471219259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471220417 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KORD < 1471220417 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORD 142251Z 12007KT 10SM SCT055 BKN250 28/18 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP161 T02830183 < 1471220433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1471220437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ORDing? < 1471220451 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1471220472 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the airport's pretty far from here. < 1471220495 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's a closer metar target. < 1471220525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you're already ORDed. < 1471220548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1471220549 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 142253Z 29013KT 10SM FEW010 FEW250 21/13 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP121 T02110133 < 1471220732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471220749 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471220750 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 142300Z 29017G25KT 30SM FEW035 BKN052 BKN250 23/17 A2993 RMK CU1SC6CI1 CU TR SLP138 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1471220769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KPHX < 1471220770 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPHX 142251Z 20005KT 10SM FEW100 FEW150 41/12 A2978 RMK AO2 SLP063 T04060122 < 1471220772 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BREATHABLE WEATHER! COMFORT! < 1471220786 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. Phœnix is not livable at hth < 1471220802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it hth < 1471220870 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weather where you can cook steak in direct sunlight is too warm for me. < 1471220973 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. which is you favourite Coast? < 1471220985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I like The Coast of Utopia. < 1471220986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1471221034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my coast can beat your coast anytime! nah! < 1471221052 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471221054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie lives on an island of width ~500km hth < 1471221061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all one big coast < 1471221266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory//To be theory is to be like a theorem, but inferior. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidity//Stupidity is created when people are too lazy to think correctly. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :json//JSON is JavaSyntax Or Nothing. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia//Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :szoup//A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1471221321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lem < 1471221322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanisław Lem was a Polish logician who discovered the law of excluded middle. < 1471221329 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think I can really say about them American coasts, I've seen very little of them. < 1471221341 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: When are you coming to MTV again? < 1471221343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :October? < 1471221350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1471221384 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in a place called "California Pizza Kitchen" now, does that count? < 1471221400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried Norwegian pizza? < 1471221451 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Norwegian pizza? with lutefisk? ) < 1471221473 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have. < 1471221579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I've been to Norway and I might've eaten pizza there, but I don't think there was anything particularly Norwegian about it. < 1471221595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been told that Norwegian pizza is the best in the world. < 1471221657 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been told that Chicago has some particular kind of pizza. < 1471221709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i https://twitter.com/TheFoodLab/status/761106613088325632 < 1471221861 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't know if that's quite it. < 1471221984 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1471221985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i,i what is i,i < 1471222007 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget what is i,i :/ < 1471223476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471223484 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471223514 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471224095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is https://goo.gl/aegVpI horrifying? < 1471224102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, looks like it is < 1471224105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't click the link < 1471224115 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PART #esoteric : < 1471225655 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles hppavilion[1]
< 1471225667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Why? < 1471225915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471225953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1471225954 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clicked the link. < 1471225958 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1471225962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The king demands... puns! < 1471225981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I told you not to < 1471225983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not my fault < 1471225999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know what the content was until I realized that goo.gl displays the page you shorten for < 1471226041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf. helloily. < 1471226151 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange. The laptop switched timezones automajistically when I went to Cambridge (I didn't know it was going to do that), but now it's stuck in Eastern Daylight Time. < 1471226153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for registration emails is scow. < 1471226180 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471226209 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you registrating at for? and s/scow/hth/. you're oerjan, not shachaf hth < 1471226223 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm registering at the iwc forum. after 10 years. < 1471226230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i can send you a registration email if you like wth < 1471226257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :provided the email ever gets through, that is. < 1471226267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope hth < 1471226273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wth < 1471226274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471226315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn WTH is wavy toe hair. hth. < 1471226319 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wth': WTH is wavy toe hair. hth. < 1471226483 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have toe hair? < 1471226483 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1471226547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't tell me you are tired of life D: < 1471226547 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! something is reacting to the pendant. take out the contents are yours? < 1471226569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1471226569 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1471226573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1471226574 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1471226576 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471226581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Jafet < 1471226587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you read olist? < 1471226675 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read nolists. < 1471226798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nolist < 1471226799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nolist: not found < 1471226905 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SHAKER CHICKEN < 1471226928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? busy beaver growth < 1471226929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy beaver growth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471227006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn busy beaver growth/No one can compute the length of a wisdom entry sufficient to explain busy beaver growth. < 1471227008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «busy beaver growth» < 1471227048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hth < 1471227088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? superexponential growth < 1471227089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!! < 1471227096 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why do you no longer ever talk about that sword that alone could not stop? < 1471227096 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: must think of a way to the ocean palace? < 1471227096 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you hope that helped with? < 1471227099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits superexponential growth < 1471227101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1471227111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1471227115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: well you pointed out an obvious gap in wisdom hth < 1471227132 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :when? < 1471227133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your wisdom entry fills a much-needed gap hth < 1471227153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's because you don't understand superexponential growth < 1471227165 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: There's a transporter in the Zeal Palace, you just need to energize the pendant in the Mammon Machine. < 1471227165 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in the middle ages, sir slush!... you're gaspar, the guru of time! get moving! irreparable! please! pretty please! hmmm, two-legged, walking humanoid robot! incredible! < 1471227288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses the saucepan to add a much-needed gap to shachaf's teeth ===\__/
< 1471227431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the email is still not getting through :( i hope it hasn't been caught by a spam filter. < 1471227991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was just not meant to be. < 1471228665 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471229278 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1471229290 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38 < 1471229605 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1471229771 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471229812 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By removing the need for would-be programmers to learn esoteric programming languages, the method has the potential to significantly expand the number of people engaged in programming --" < 1471229816 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=189457&org=NSF&from=news < 1471229839 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see we've been made obsolete. < 1471229883 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1471229885 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a discovery too < 1471229917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok they'll only be able to make fruit game apps hth < 1471230312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471231041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49145&oldid=49094 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+176) 10Added http://termbin.com/dubq implementation < 1471231091 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels so nice to actually be writing a bit of python code again. < 1471231108 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to work on an esolang! < 1471231651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471232759 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we should advocate our position with a textbook < 1471232771 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Computer Programming Made Difficult” < 1471232840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: What position and how can I help? < 1471232898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: The position of esoteric programming? < 1471232967 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know anything about packing strings? < 1471232980 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Total Grants: $9,006,930” — it seems that esoteric programming is being severely outfunded, too. < 1471233245 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘Computer Programming Made Difficult’ seems like an excellent name for an INTERCAL book. < 1471233785 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: About packing strings with what? You would have to be more specific, I think < 1471234094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :styrofoam hth < 1471234181 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using packing tape instead of packing strings < 1471234273 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think it work better < 1471234352 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The string theory channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1471235735 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I watch the television I like to enable both the captions and the sound, although some people don't like the captions. (Someone said to me that she prefers the talking, but enabling the captions does not preclude also sound.) < 1471235807 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seem that sometimes the people who wrote the caption does not even know what they said; I would hope that they should ask the people who made the TV show or who are talking on the TV show, so that they can write it on the caption! < 1471236021 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think of such thing as this? < 1471236136 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any TV caption code to tell it to not display some of the captions? I think it can be useful if you write caption for Jeopardy then you can write the clues also into the captions but write them concealed so that it the clue will not be doubled on the TV screen, but is still displayed if you print out the captions. < 1471236707 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471236801 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc33:ffdb:1ec1:31bb JOIN :#esoteric < 1471236951 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471237043 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471237155 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471237492 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471238732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471238787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl genius: i hope Dimo won't accidentally activate that thing < 1471239067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, who are those guys... < 1471239460 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: *Sometimes* the captions are being done live, so it's not feasible. < 1471239595 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3894:a173:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471240363 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, I think it might for news shows maybe? < 1471241497 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471242951 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3894:a173:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471245030 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471247582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471248994 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471251305 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471251852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471252593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471252953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* 10New user account < 1471253117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fishstacks14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49146&oldid=40543 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+122) 10 < 1471253418 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fishstacks sounds useless < 1471253430 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you basically replace output with 4 pushes < 1471253572 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471255979 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471257112 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471257288 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471260005 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471260253 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc33:ffdb:1ec1:31bb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471260889 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471260963 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471262804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49147&oldid=49109 5* 03122.107.203.79 5* (+1092) 10/* Implementation */ < 1471262886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471262887 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471262889 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471262890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :future//We know nothing about the future. < 1471262890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe//A universe is a poem in one stanza. < 1471262890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf//Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1471263005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the number 256 is easy to write. "iisss" < 1471263182 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471263202 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471263344 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1471263405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49148&oldid=49147 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+7) 10/* Implementation */ < 1471264115 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ADVERB CHICKEN < 1471264142 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471264242 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471264273 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471264288 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471264959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49149&oldid=47144 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+1411) 10/* C# */ < 1471265764 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471266292 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471266365 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471266682 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471267499 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471267672 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471267747 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471270670 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471272187 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471272381 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471272737 0 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1471281128 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471281651 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471281858 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471282281 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471282915 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qktivhllkgiorgcl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471283198 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nbhesmgkiwlkiihp JOIN :#esoteric < 1471285060 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03BusinessCat 5* 10New user account < 1471285102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49150&oldid=49135 5* 03BusinessCat 5* (+13) 10/* G */ < 1471285855 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471286341 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5197:fc90:ad80:d440 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471286792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471286847 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471286915 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5197:fc90:ad80:d440 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471287027 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471287173 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471287232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471287336 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1471287596 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471287603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: helrod < 1471287805 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: o/ o/ < 1471287815 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm doing hacky weird things with SPARC64 boxes, don't mind me~ < 1471287835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how're the rods < 1471287875 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: SPARC64? isnt that an variation MIPS RISC? Does it use OpenFirmware for booting? < 1471287951 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: yeah, openboot :) < 1471287993 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a coworker who was moving and had to get rid of them, so I was like "I'll take them!" -- we both drove about 8 hours, met half way, and he loaded up my car with them :P < 1471288003 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used to be part of the Fedora SPARC buildsystem < 1471288062 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many SPARC cores you could fit on today chip-dies with todays 22nm feature size techniques < 1471288208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 hour drive? Scow. < 1471288231 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I love that expansion cards (PCI or S-BUS) could have ROMs with minimal driver written in F-code < 1471288271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subtractpocalypse14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49151&oldid=47203 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+3252) 10Proof of Turing-completeness via Minsky Machine translation. < 1471288557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Companies can merge together to form a new, bigger company < 1471288572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is there ever a reason for companies to divide when they aren't compelled to? < 1471288598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what you mean by dividing. < 1471288646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have all sorts of reasons to split up a company into subsidiaries which are still part of the same bigger company. < 1471288656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can sell part of a company to someone < 1471288734 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you mean seperation and spin of? Happens all the time in the field of electronics component making < 1471288734 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goo... I mean, Alphabet did sort of something like splitting up. < 1471288762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: One company becomes two, fully independent companies, neither of which is incorporated into another or bought by a private individual... I guess < 1471288787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it ever take you embarrassingly long to get a pun? Like, The Count from Sesame Street < 1471288798 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1471288813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subtractpocalypse14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49152&oldid=49151 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+6) 10Added missing commas to the translation example. < 1471288815 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471288837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulproteus/List_of_puns_that_took_Asheesh_more_than_a_year_to_get < 1471288995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can ask who owns the two independent companies. < 1471289210 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp...that TCness proof turned out to be a lot simpler than anyone thought... < 1471289251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tc < 1471289255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471289257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tg < 1471289258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. < 1471289265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing-Charlie? < 1471289398 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing-Churchill < 1471289439 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471289477 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471289479 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what is meant by the "Delta is for D like in the NATO alphabet" thing < 1471289489 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471289502 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delta the airline was named after its origins cropdusting the mississippi river delta... < 1471289601 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471289912 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471289938 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you recognize this ∆ ? That is a delta < 1471290011 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: yes, and it is the origin of Delta's logo. i get that. But the name preceded the logo. they said "we're called Delta, so we'll use a greek letter delta as our logo." < 1471290274 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the NATO phonetic alphabet is used when you have to have to spell something out or raise someone on radio via callsign < 1471290358 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i suspect Delta was chosen for the NATO alphabet based on it being a greek letter, rather than it being the name of an airline < 1471290372 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yebb < 1471291169 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471291299 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:41dd:9650:4e5a:d677 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471291352 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld JOIN :#esoteric < 1471291357 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-eikyaysbtcrfswaz QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1471291402 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471292056 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471292467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471292471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd makes a good point < 1471292482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should measure self-driving cars' intelligence in horsepower < 1471292503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochpower < 1471292884 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:41dd:9650:4e5a:d677 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471293323 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471293594 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:419d:be94:9f79:7cf3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471294010 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1471294475 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:419d:be94:9f79:7cf3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471294572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471294713 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.231 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471295188 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471295518 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471296883 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471296914 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1de5:8c4:84aa:a53e JOIN :#esoteric < 1471296992 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471297099 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471297119 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :George Soros's NGOs' files have been leaked! Yay for government transparency! < 1471297121 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471297196 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's an NGO, then how can it be government transparency? < 1471297202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NGO means non-government... < 1471297253 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: because it is now proven that George Soros has been influencing the actions of European governments wrt to the migrant crisis < 1471297291 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a heinous affront to democracy < 1471297344 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope the Koch Brothers get leaked next < 1471297375 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see nothing wrong with the Koch snowflake. < 1471297432 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: clearly you haven't zoomed in enough < 1471297591 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, ~13.82 billion years ago: "What if I made a universe where things necessary to survive were rivalrous and excludable?" < 1471297890 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.5" < 1471297918 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: doxing may be the term you're looking for < 1471297980 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d0xxing < 1471298015 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1471298038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1471298045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there we go < 1471298083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably going to be buying a laptop. < 1471298089 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The word is good enough for Bruce Schneier so it's good enough for me) < 1471298095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my experiences lead me to avoid HP Pavilions. < 1471298114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :,( < 1471298125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, definitely avoid an HP laptop < 1471298134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My experiences with an HP Pavilion laptop, I mean. < 1471298134 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I recommend thinkpad < 1471298136 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ignore is still a win on that front, IMHO. < 1471298143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1471298144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471298145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs.
< 1471298160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Do you? More than e.g. Dell XPS 15? < 1471298165 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471298170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend buying a soldering iron and some silicone < 1471298174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silicon is also useful < 1471298179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Thinkpad is as good as Dell XPS 15? < 1471298185 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME Dells come loaded with more crap software < 1471298207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I wouldn't be running Windows most of the time anyway. < 1471298213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would it be like if I had a computer that wasn't full of unnecessary shit? < 1471298225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I could buy the Signature Edition from the Microsoft Store, which comes with a "no bloatware" promise. < 1471298230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is that what Linux feels like?) < 1471298242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :O < 1471298248 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471298250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Lenovo put spyware in its computers anyway? < 1471298272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I hardly use Windows so I care about the hardware. < 1471298275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1471298320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...does it? < 1471298323 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in that case, the manufacturer hardly matters, other than chassis aesthetics < 1471298326 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What Linux feels like depends on the distribution.) < 1471298343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then why Lenovo? < 1471298351 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like black < 1471298359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like thin and light. < 1471298374 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their T series is suitably boxy and tough looking < 1471298413 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a MiG-31 of laptops < 1471298414 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops, laptops... who needs new laptops < 1471298449 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points at a laptop that is (probably) 4 or 5 years old IIRC
< 1471298454 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :old ones work just fine! < 1471298455 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had an arch linux on a server that didn't have man installed :D < 1471298464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dammit < 1471298466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it on my computer < 1471298489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I use a lenovo, but now I'm sad < 1471298510 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, orin, that's computer-colour-ist < 1471298516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It does have OneKey Optimizer, which is nice, albeit probably useless) < 1471298518 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't discriminate computers and laptops by colour < 1471298520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else! < 1471298532 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :else what < 1471298538 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or else you get... bad karma! < 1471298543 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something! < 1471298576 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't like silver coloured computers < 1471298580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yeah, only discriminate by computer gender, religion, national origin, sexuality, or gender identity < 1471298588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But color is off-limits < 1471298623 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Computers, to the best of my knowledge, don't have gender, religion, sexuality, or gender identity. But yeah, also don't discriminate based on national origin. < 1471298642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Even if it's made in china? < 1471298655 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares into hppavilion[1]'s deep eyes.
< 1471298658 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops are post gender < 1471298662 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's made in China. < 1471298680 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then returns to normal.
< 1471298736 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All laptops are made in China by Taiwanese manufacturers abyway < 1471298786 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Guangdong megacity < 1471298813 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad went there once, he borught back a lot of cool picutres < 1471298870 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day I want to live in a city that big < 1471298893 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toronto is insufficiently urban < 1471299048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple probably makes the best laptops. < 1471299055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want an Apple computer. < 1471299096 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you mean, Apple hires 鴻海科技集團 to make laptops, according to their specs. < 1471299110 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple doesnt actually manufacture any laptops < 1471299127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple laptops are probably the best ones. < 1471299140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether they manufacture them or cause other people to manufacture them is irrelevant. < 1471299143 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want trackpoints < 1471299150 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Few *entities* actually do manufacturing of electronics themselves. < 1471299163 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Thinkpad has a button mouse < 1471299233 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a touchpad and a trackpoint, but I actually plug in a usb mouse most of the time < 1471299241 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love a sony vaio p with modern hardware < 1471299359 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471299364 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, interestingly until recently, cpu's were almost exclusively manufactured in the USA < 1471299376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it stop being interesting recently? < 1471299388 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...argh < 1471299445 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that now China manufactures some CPU's < 1471299482 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be surprised if Intel did any CPU manufacturing in China. < 1471299502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, apparently they do. < 1471299529 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway < 1471299546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure. < 1471299556 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's the whole export restriction debacle that prompted China to make their own ... surprisingly competetive ... CPUs < 1471299558 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When can I get a Mill? twh < 1471299641 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway_TaihuLight ... so closely related to orin's link. < 1471299724 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mill? < 1471299766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1471299769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't know the Mill? < 1471299783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://millcomputing.com/docs/ < 1471299789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great. < 1471299809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should watch the videos. < 1471299855 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen it mentioned but it didn't stick and I didn't investigate in any detail. Thanks for the reminder! < 1471299909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I ws in that situation the first several times I heard about it. <