< 1472688132 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about extending http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3920 with (a) a more consensus-based system (rather than a single anomalous objection preventing the marriage, the entire assemblage must agree- so even if one person is 5 sigma against this marriage, if the other people lean towards it more than average then it is canceled out because people anti-object) and (b) an additional "trust factor" that allows the couple to < 1472688132 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :acknowledge that the groom's alcoholic brother Jeff's opinions really don't matter to them as much as the Bride's [kindly old Mother who's bravely fighting a terminal liver cancer so she can see her daughter married]'s opinion < 1472688148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The system works like this < 1472688188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each guest to the wedding is entered into a database and associated with one party (either the bride or the groom) < 1472688214 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472688343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+1s, by the way, are not permitted to object; people likely to go together are issued a "joint invitation" that serves essentially as 2 invitations without +1 capabilities OR as a single ticket with one permitted +1, rather than issuing one of them a standard invitation under the expectation that the other one will be their +1) < 1472688428 0 :powerOfTwo!~powerOfTw@host117.190-139-21.telecom.net.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1472688501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prior to the wedding, the bride and groom are taken into separate rooms and given a list of guests. For each guest, they assign that guest a trust rating (any nonnegative real number will do). Each party also has the option to mark guests associated with the other party as "null" or "mirror", which is basically saying "assign me at the same trust rating as my prospective spouse" < 1472688563 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, you know, they can just give a fuck about objections < 1472688578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm humorously doing advanced statistics for weddings < 1472688584 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~advanced < 1472688672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Let G be the set of all guests, G_B be the set of all guests associated with the bride, G_F be the set of all guests associated with the groom, T_B(g) be the bride's trust ratings (T_B : G -> R), and T_F(g) be the groom's trust ratings (id)) < 1472688744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note here that we're assuming a heterosexual marriage; homosexual marriages follow the same process, but should likely use a separate database of past objections for the time being, given the stigma) < 1472688762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(group marriages, I have no idea what to do, but it'd likely be similar) < 1472688934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next, T_B(g) and T_F(g) are normalized to 100 with a standard deviation of 15 < 1472688995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(call these T'_B(g) and T'_F(g)) < 1472689029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let T(g) = (T'_B(g)+T'_F(g))/2, which represents overall trust < 1472689118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T_mean is the mean of T(g) forall g in G < 1472689149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, at the part of the wedding ceremony where objections are given, each eligible guest submits an objection in the interval [0,1] < 1472689219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call the objection of guest g O(g) < 1472689336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard wedding objection is calculated (take the output of this algorithm at all previous weddings, average them, subtract each individual wedding's result from the average, square these, divide by the total number of weddings, take the square root) < 1472689460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For each guest g, find T(g)*O(g)^2, sum these values, divide by T_mean*|G|, take the square root < 1472689480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call this TO (Total Objection) < 1472689506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Submit TO to the server for consideration in future weddings < 1472689524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the earlier-found Standard Wedding Objection SO < 1472689564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Wedding Objection Standard Deviation WOSD < 1472689569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if TO-SO≥WOSD < 1472689591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's my badly-statisticated text wall < 1472689678 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1472690094 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472690220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472690379 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kayryluu kerjanch! < 1472690422 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1472690484 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1472690569 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :arghoily < 1472690623 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kept the "yr" theme from yesterday ^^ < 1472690635 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENOTHELPING < 1472690661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to have vowel harmony... < 1472690669 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: transliterated. < 1472690687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from cyrillic? < 1472690694 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. < 1472690730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm but can y be a back vowel, otherwise i'd still say no vowel harmony. < 1472690732 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it one of those dying azerbaijani languages? < 1472690734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1472690775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm caucasian you mean? < 1472690793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't know those, anyway :( < 1472690804 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Udi--only like 6600 recorded speakers < 1472690816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just wondering if it could be a turkish language. < 1472690830 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a Turkic language. < 1472690833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1472690840 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1472690847 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oohoily? < 1472690869 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472690893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i can rattle off some names that i'm not sure whether are turkic or indo-aryan < 1472690904 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily shit ;P < 1472690909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkmen, uzbek or such < 1472690927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. those ex-cccp states) < 1472690939 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not turkmen, not uzbek. < 1472690947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh or kazakh < 1472690973 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might not be spelling them correctly, anyway < 1472691043 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not kazakh! < 1472691074 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kazakh sounds like a hacking cough < 1472691101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :azeri wasn't _officially_ mentioned yet, i think < 1472691141 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not azeri. < 1472691158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may be out of plausibly turkic language names :( < 1472691182 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Kyrgyz. < 1472691188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dran < 1472691191 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it really sounds like a cough. /qɑˈzɑq/ < 1472691196 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one state i forgot :P < 1472691234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah kazakh is all apples < 1472691411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm pretty sure either the cyrillic or the transliteration on omniglot's page is misspelled < 1472691434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the y and r are swapped) < 1472691437 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fungot. < 1472691437 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sorry if i seem brusque, but it doesn't rank very high on the richter scale? :) maybe its a charity fnord" < 1472691454 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: t'es pas brusque, juste un fungot. < 1472691454 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how'd you do ( eval2...) with ( a c d) evaluate to zero when serialized)) < 1472691611 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, charity fnords < 1472691629 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472691793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about first person narration, but using first-person plural pronouns ("we", "us") < 1472691827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds a kyrgyz word кайың on wiktionary, but its meaning is "birch" < 1472691873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheVirginSuicides does that < 1472691892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm кеч is evening < 1472691920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you ever read math papers those are like that hth < 1472691940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yeah, but they're also anti-fiction < 1472691950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as opposed to non-fiction or fiction) < 1472691998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(anti-fiction is purer than non-fiction in that anti-fiction is definitely, 100%, provably objectively true, whereas non-fiction is laced with opinions and point-of-view bias) < 1472692001 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :math is fictional. ask any mathematician hth < 1472692269 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed < 1472692310 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least it's a fiction that's more consistent with humanity's perception of the behavior of the universe than any other fictions out there < 1472692328 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take "math says so" over "god says so" any day of the week < 1472692350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find a claim that кайрылуу means "case", and that has more google hits than the original spelling. < 1472692373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm starting to suspect that omniglot entry is nonsense :P < 1472692408 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has кеч! < 1472692420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, but the other words seems dubious. < 1472692423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1472692438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe i should google the whole phrase. < 1472692561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unswapped has 382 hits, swapped 8. < 1472692689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first became 29 after flipping pages. < 1472692725 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so few you could suspect them all to come from the same flawed source. < 1472692790 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: which languages do you speak? < 1472692791 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think that syntactic environments are _much_ more easily expressed with one type of oo < 1472692798 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wouldn't surprise me at all. < 1472692812 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oo oo ooooooo ooo ō ooo? < 1472692812 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i could be wrong, but lisppaste is at http://www.common-lisp.net/ paste/ display/ 4532 < 1472692875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'm pretty sure boily's line wasn't lisp. < 1472692876 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: calamari's here. it's not the only barrier, if it somehow clears those two hw banging instructions, that bound instruction is likely to be that < 1472692962 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oooh, calamari! calamari is delicious. < 1472692962 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, sorry, heh :) well, i'm with jeffie there. ( irc limitations) < 1472692963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh the phrases in omniglot are provided by someone with an appropriate sounding name... < 1472692972 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes it is. < 1472692972 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: might i ask what this is doing here < 1472692981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Chyngyz Dzhumaliev) < 1472692983 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it is doing being flavourful hth < 1472692984 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm also wondering whether perhaps other browsers are a bit less than males can get pregnant with some caos < 1472692987 0 :powerOfTwo!~powerOfTw@host117.190-139-21.telecom.net.ar QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472692991 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sounds legit. < 1472693037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't calamari wants you to eat him, otoh he hasn't been here in a long while. < 1472693078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't think < 1472693097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks the fnords are stealing his words < 1472693097 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tripped on oerjan's sentence. brain sprain. < 1472693115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: SOWWY < 1472693120 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1472693238 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: haven't you ever wished to swap fnords and fjords, maybe just for a day? < 1472693238 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: xhtml doesn't render portably. hence the slowness in modern machines is due to the choice to use c++ analogies) < 1472693241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need to make Greece an independent country < 1472693266 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. eh? < 1472693281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, fuck < 1472693287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.*// < 1472693294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wikitravel suggests the more logical (given the other entries in omniglot) Kutmanduu kechingiz menen. < 1472693309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need to tell Greece that we're making Lesbos an independent country < 1472693415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think fnord should be inflected the same as icelandic fjord, anyway. < 1472693432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think they like to spell it Lesvos these days, for obvious reasons. < 1472693454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Damn. < 1472693482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, time to find a dictionary genie < 1472693501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lesvian (n): A female who is attracted to females < 1472693511 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fjord, fjordn, fjordr, fjordet, fjordar... < 1472693514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I think we need to make Greece an independent country < 1472693516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1288) I think we need to make Greece an independent country < 1472693528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hey, I never said that < 1472693542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you did. < 1472693550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, I didn't < 1472693572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am of the opinion that using s/// isn't just correct a mistake- it undoes it < 1472693586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once s/// has been used, the mistake is erased from all of time and space < 1472693592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am of the opposite opinion hth < 1472693598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shh... is okay now... you will be PDFed... < 1472693642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway, you are now in the quotes in the proud tradition of itidus hth < 1472693648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote itidus < 1472693649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :394) to assume that someone can be described by a rule without exception... is to assume they are omnipotent for instance stones are omnipotent, as they don't do anything, without exception \ 415) monqy: last night in my dreams I saw a false photo album of my childhood... looking ghostly \ 416) itidus20: i s < 1472693686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat? < 1472693697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was itidus20 constantly stoned? < 1472693702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote matrix of solidity < 1472693702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :240) enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity < 1472693709 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we have no disproof of that hth < 1472693828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fjord, fjordn, fjordr, fjordet, fjordar... <-- no, it's more glorious than that. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fj%C3%B6r%C3%B0ur < 1472694014 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't have dreamt it better. < 1472694057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know right? < 1472694297 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472694409 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472694652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472695137 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472695358 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GENERATIONAL CHICKEN < 1472695533 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472695889 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472695895 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc linked to this: http://inutile.club/estatis/falso/ < 1472695981 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best thing about Falso is that it is consistent < 1472696322 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472696373 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can it be consistent if everything is true? < 1472696456 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that's easy to prove, just use the axiom < 1472696702 0 :Ashura!328bfcaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.139.252.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472696731 0 :Ashura!328bfcaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.139.252.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1472696753 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Ashura < 1472696868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Ashura < 1472696869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ashura: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1472696938 0 :Ashura!328bfcaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.139.252.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript quine: !function $(){console.log("!" + $ + "()")}() < 1472697012 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is work < 1472697022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1472697023 0 :Ashura!328bfcaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.139.252.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if a quine is possible in Bugmaker. < 1472697122 0 :Ashura!328bfcaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.139.252.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of writing "SET X = 1 + 1", you'd have to write "DO SET THE VARIABLE NAMED X = EXACTLY 1 + 1 NOW". < 1472697355 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if we can make a quine with the standard TAVERN compiler? (It is a program I wrote but I did not intend to make a quine out of it) < 1472697426 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To see if it can be done without having the program read its own source file at compile time) < 1472697462 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode STAR < 1472697462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0001 \ UTF-8: 01 UTF-16BE: 0001 Decimal:  \ . \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0002 \ UTF-8: 02 UTF-16BE: 0002 Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0086 \ UTF-8: c2 86 UTF-16BE: 0086 Decimal: † \ † \ Category: Cc (Ot < 1472697782 0 :Ashura!328bfcaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.139.252.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to run THIS: ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[—>+<]>---.---.+++[->++ +<]>++. < 1472697923 0 :Trey13!~Ender13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:ace2:a73c:5b7a:ea3d JOIN :#esoteric < 1472698178 0 :Trey13!~Ender13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:ace2:a73c:5b7a:ea3d PART #esoteric : < 1472698316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[—>+<]>---.---.+++[->++ +<]>++. < 1472698321 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ash ...out of time! < 1472698326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1472698340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[—>+<]>---.---.+++[->++ +<]>++. < 1472698371 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ash < 1472698375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ashura: seems a bit heavy < 1472698390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it supposed to write more than 3 letters < 1472698422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1472698422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1472698475 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ibin/bf < 1472698476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ . lib/interp \ \ # Get the bitwidth from the command \ BW=`echo "$I_CMD" | sed 's/.*bf//'` \ if [ "$BW" = "" ] ; then BW=8 ; fi \ \ interp_file ./interps/egobf/src/egobfi$BW < 1472698578 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472698583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \! 'bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[—>+<]>---.---.+++[->++ +<]>++.' | ord < 1472698614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472698617 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1472698999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[—>+<]>---.---.+++[->+++<]>++. < 1472699004 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ash ...out of time! < 1472699016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea why that would timeout. < 1472699048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.---.---.+++[->+++<]>++. < 1472699049 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asheb1 < 1472699060 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm curious < 1472699073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a bug, but it still shouldn't timeout. < 1472699089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[->+<]>---.---.+++[->+++<]>++. < 1472699138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what. < 1472699143 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do we go from here < 1472699145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo hi < 1472699168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fungot has trouble :( < 1472699218 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asheb1 < 1472699218 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi < 1472699218 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ( fun with scope!), and the " include " prescheme.h"" line is not. < 1472699224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1472699237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[->+<]>---.---.+++[->+++<]>++. < 1472699237 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asheb1 < 1472699291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode .[—>+<]> < 1472699292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002E FULL STOP] [U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+2014 EM DASH] [U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+003C LESS-THAN SIGN] [U+005D RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] < 1472699312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EM DASH < 1472699320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ashura: THAT'S EVIL < 1472699327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1472699335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[-->+<]>---.---.+++[->+++<]>++. < 1472699335 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ash1.• < 1472699344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ----[---->+<]>++.--[----->+<]>.-----------.[--->+<]>---.---.+++[->+++<]>++. < 1472699344 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ashura < 1472699347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1472699393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ashura: your --- got turned into an em dash by some too-clever editor, me thinks. < 1472699510 0 :Ashura!328bfcaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.139.252.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472699549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1472699630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my curse of bad timing hits again. now food -> < 1472699850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472700144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an alt-left? < 1472700219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Liberal conservatism is a political ideology combining conservative policies with liberal stances" < 1472700313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... "The gays should be allowed to get married, and if President, I promise to get Congress to pass a law defining marriage as between one man, one woman, with additional taxes every year the mother isn't Pregnant or actively raising a child under the age of 4, and both must be virgins" < 1472700489 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is not an alt-left < 1472700578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Traditionalist Liberalism" < 1472700600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Wait, what about the SJWs? < 1472700635 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt-right is a specific group of people who self-identify < 1472700647 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an "academic" (read: outside) term < 1472700667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472700704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Well also, the "alt-right" is a branch of the Right with certain distinguishing characteristics < 1472700726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the alt-left would be a part of the left with similar (or analogous) characteristics < 1472700738 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as racism? < 1472700754 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt-right used to be a tiny group of twitter trolls that grew out of gay nazis and gamergate < 1472700755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1472700764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah1 < 1472700767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Bah! < 1472700774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was more-or-less a fan of gamergate < 1472700782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, the general gist of it) < 1472700804 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that hillary has mentioned them on a national stage, they are becoming a giant group that will influence american politics for yers to come < 1472700814 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamergate was kind of ok when it was about ethics in journalism < 1472700819 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moment it wasn't it should have died < 1472700829 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, the moment it was revealed it was false) < 1472700834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Yeah, pretty much < 1472700887 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hillary mentioning "alt-right" on a national stage was giant blunder imo, because now the trump voters have a label that they can carry even if trump loses < 1472700965 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was equivalent to creating a viral meme against your own ideology < 1472700975 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge blunder < 1472700992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The alt-right is associated with white nationalism, white supremacism, antisemitism, right-wing populism, nativism, and the neoreactionary movement < 1472701007 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anti-feminism < 1472701029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I'm anti-feminist and I'm NOT alt-right < 1472701065 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway, the alt right will grow to just mean people who voted for trump in this election < 1472701067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming feminists in this context mean third wavers. Classical (first-wave, maybe second-wave) feminism is cool.) < 1472701101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the alt-left would be overly multicultural/diversity-yay (not to the point of "yeah, diversity is cool", but more "if your thing isn't diverse enough you're a bad person"- affirmative action and such) < 1472701116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a raaction to that < 1472701140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :White responsibilitism (or whatever), which is "today's whites are responsible for our ancestors oppressing today's blacks ancestors, and should have to pay reparation < 1472701143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1472701174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :antisemitism becomes... not sure, yelling "islamophobia" whenever someone criticizes Islam? < 1472701193 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1472701226 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: keep in mind that alt-right isn't a more extreme version of right < 1472701237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right-wing populism into... I guess the "if you don't let people freely immigrate from the middle east you're a racist" < 1472701248 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it rejects many aspects of normal american right-wing < 1472701274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It's the right, rotated 15 to 30 degrees clockwise, I think? < 1472701276 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: for example, the alt-right are pro-gay rights < 1472701282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, really? < 1472701291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I thought they were trump supporters... < 1472701303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this was libertarians... < 1472701318 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, one of their main proponents is a certain gay reporter named milo yiannopoulos aka "@nero" < 1472701332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, milo yiannopoulos < 1472701357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not entirely agreeable, but a lot of the people against him (going around and tearing down posters for his events) are worse < 1472701385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess right-wing populism also becomes "the status quo is necessarily bad" < 1472701395 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preserving the status quo isn't a bad thing when you have a utopia < 1472701459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nativism becomes... I guess "immigrants should have a favored status to native citizens", but I don't think even the SJWs have that... < 1472701555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, yeah, I share about... 40% of conflicted opinions with him? < 1472701612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Bindel < 1472701613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1472701633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She has an organization that "helps women who have been prosecuted for killing violent male partners." < 1472701640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure, but what if the genders are inverted? < 1472701730 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah abusive relationships are one of the few cases where there's actual legitimate sexism in favour of women < 1472701754 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc they cut roughtly equally both ways < 1472702081 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472702626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1472702664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember hearing that the Violence Against Women Act established that law enforcement has to use a specific test to determine action in domestic abuse calls < 1472702673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it assumes the guilt of a man, innocence of a woman < 1472702681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've never been able to find such a thing < 1472702708 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1472702715 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472703765 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :"8) NONEXCLUSIVITY.—Nothing in this title shall be construed < 1472703766 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :to prohibit male victims of domestic violence, dating < 1472703766 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :violence, sexual assault, and stalking from receiving benefits < 1472703766 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and services under this title. < 1472703772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472706509 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472708308 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nergoytgznqfjyik QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472708482 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pygnylpuyhtlsykh JOIN :#esoteric < 1472709098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472710145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poe's law is kind of stupid < 1472710155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, people can identify satire when they see it online < 1472710159 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People aren't THAT stupid < 1472710183 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is 100% possible to troll so hard that nobody notices < 1472710337 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not so sure of either < 1472710359 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472710504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just assume hppavilion[1] is applying poe's law to itself. < 1472710583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i thought the point was that it is 100% possible to have so crazy really opinions that everybody suspects you're doing satire. < 1472710590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*real < 1472710594 0 :lynn_!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nplfhfdyfkzojemh JOIN :#esoteric < 1472710636 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, which is functionally very similar to having really crazy satire and everybody suspecting you have really crazy opinions < 1472710641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, i'm starting to tire of how irssi shows only part of the line i'm writing, so i keep making these garden path errors. < 1472710655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, that's a possible Corollary to Poe's law, but it doesn't directly follow < 1472710676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's not a corollary, it's a lemma that's part of its proof hth < 1472710684 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1472710689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be < 1472710725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We must also assume that trolls are indistinguishable from genuine believers beyond content (so trolls don't just have linguistic flags or somesuch) < 1472710749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1472710757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not always the case < 1472710817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people troll without enough depth of knowledge to be convincing. < 1472710864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sufficiently advanced thing is indistinguishable from /dark/ magic? < 1472710884 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :light magic, duh < 1472710897 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION poofs < 1472710898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actuarial science?) < 1472710911 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: grey goo hth < 1472710941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I build world-eating nanobots, I will make sure they are hot pink < 1472710945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one will ever see it coming < 1472710955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, artificial black holes. < 1472710963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty dark. < 1472711159 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the people here will see it coming < 1472711164 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to kill us first < 1472711277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just spread a virus that modifies color vision first < 1472711282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reaches for his swatter, but then realized he is not oerjan < 1472711295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prays he didn't mix up oerjan and \oren\ again < 1472711320 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didnt < 1472711329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea how people mix us up, anyway. < 1472711360 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you have nearly identically-pronounced names < 1472711379 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you don't speak english hth < 1472711394 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472711394 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472711434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472711445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean as long as you _do_ speak english. < 1472711456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is an oer*n and the other is an ore*n < 1472711510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, "or-en" and "oh-er-jan (yan?)" are pretty different in English < 1472711519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everone on this channel speaks english < 1472711525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, except for the Venezuelans) < 1472711543 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounce internet people's names as if they're German and I have no idea why < 1472711555 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first language is english so that's super weird < 1472711559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: I just don't read them out loud, and pronunciation stays in my head < 1472711567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that is pretty weird < 1472711610 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that too, but I pronounce them in my head (or something?) < 1472711611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(people sometimes pronounce "hppavilion1" as "hap-pavilion one"; it should be pronounced "H. P. pavilion one" < 1472711662 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to know about Hewlett-Packard to get it right on the first try < 1472711693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This year there are no rules. There are, however, a whole bunch of brutal laws, traditions, commandments, and decrees, plus some rules." < 1472711706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: Yeah, and no one will know about that soon < 1472711715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The business will die, and I'll swoop in and buy the trademark < 1472711779 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should buy their calculator division < 1472711786 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently still a thing? < 1472712096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd recommend getting their addition and multiplication too < 1472712172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472712353 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472712407 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472712555 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472712802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472712828 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472713306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what will happen if I do this: < 1472713348 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472713391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently nothing < 1472713425 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\357\277\276"' < 1472713426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​￾ < 1472713429 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Never think about kid's TV too much. I tried to figure out how the name "Uncle Grandpa" works.) < 1472713479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(your parents would need to be an uncle/niece or aunt/nephew pair, with UG the sibling of one and the parent of the other) < 1472713483 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\357\277\276\302\244"' < 1472713483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​￾¤ < 1472713508 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently irssi is unaware that FFFE isn't a valid character < 1472713545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I will need a glyph for it in my font < 1472713657 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a "non-character" but still valid < 1472714316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my uncle once was married to my aunt's boyfriend's daughter, that _almost_ makes my aunt both aunt and grandma to some of my cousins hth < 1472714336 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472714443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and i guess her boyfriend was both uncle and grandpa, then. < 1472714460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(almost. i don't think they got married.) < 1472714492 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472714493 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vpnfxjgxudgspgzn QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1472714493 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472714520 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472714533 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472714542 0 :ineiros!~itniemin@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472714844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472714891 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472715460 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a sort(1) is hard x.x < 1472715464 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the key part < 1472715922 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ywkcvltsnknbdxlb JOIN :#esoteric < 1472716788 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1472717135 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: with tons of options? < 1472717139 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just the buffering scheme? < 1472717205 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe GNU sort (and probably others) is using mergesort with a certain amount of data buffered for the potentially faster algorithm < 1472717281 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/src/sort.c ...and holy cow it's a lot of code < 1472717335 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, external sorting... perallel sorting... lots of code to support various key comparisons... it all adds up < 1472717349 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just looking at the manpage) < 1472717362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1472717366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just learned about Democratic White House High School AU, < 1472717367 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the annoying part is that each key can be sorted indipendently < 1472717374 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why haven't I used sort -h < 1472717374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it was on Livejournal, and I can't access it < 1472717382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the idea is amazing(ly funny) < 1472717388 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can sort key 1 numerically, then one alphabetically in reverse order, etc < 1472717389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the real world, but in a high school setting < 1472717429 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and e.g. you can do -k1.4,1.7n < 1472717440 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sorts numerically on the first key from character 4 to 7 < 1472717456 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have a key description and an interpreter for it... perhaps 70 lines of code in addition to the basic comparisons? < 1472717458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(changing the idea a bit for more funny), typical politicians are students, the Media forms teachers ("Who do you have for FTFO?" "Mr. Stewart") < 1472717492 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the rest of my sort is ~130 lines so adding 70 is a lot < 1472717540 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Teachers might be former presidents...) < 1472717546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US government in a high school. I would love that. < 1472717560 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget to sort according to the current locale < 1472717567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( I should join the school's student government. As Secretary of Defence. ) < 1472717687 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], my uni's SU once had a pirate president < 1472717721 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an SU? < 1472717737 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :super user < 1472717821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :special unitary group < 1472717876 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Student Union < 1472718064 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the most boring answer award goes to... < 1472718192 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Soviet Union! < 1472718194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented SU9N0 < 1472718228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, SU(n) < 1472718354 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472718440 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, it's not that boring, it used to have a pirate president < 1472718551 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirate as in installing photoshop or as in one piece? < 1472718621 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closer to the latter < 1472718671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe closer to eight pieces? < 1472718938 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/S3a7Q9GowoQ?t=27 < 1472719381 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently he was fairly good as student union presidents go < 1472719568 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :their acting could use some improvements < 1472719863 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/08/keystroke_recog.html creepy < 1472719990 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't everything on that blog creepy? < 1472720191 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid point < 1472720418 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6eu137bm7gg6t.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472720852 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472720879 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472721038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Soviet Union is USSR < 1472721045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Soviet Russia, USSR is YOU < 1472721054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, perfect linesync. Yay. < 1472721061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah! So close to a triple! < 1472721272 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472721317 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472721360 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:c018:61bc:ca54:ec37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472721579 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472722752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472723242 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472723474 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472723697 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1472723929 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1472723929 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split < 1472723929 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1472723930 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1472724183 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472724183 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1472724268 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472725143 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472725247 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472725646 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:c018:61bc:ca54:ec37 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472725983 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472726602 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, can you ead MFT? < 1472726602 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ( fnord object object message args)) would be the < 1472726638 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's not quite *that* simple < 1472726638 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: eval ( call-with-values ( lambda ( x) x < 1472726658 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472726660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eurovision//Eurovision is the European way of looking at the world. For some reason it involves a lot of cheesy singing. < 1472726749 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bardsworthlist http://www.bardsworth.com/?comic=man-to-man < 1472726749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bardsworthlist http://www.bardsworth.com/?comic=man-to-man: b_jonas < 1472726802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! Savage Chickens is celebrating its 3000th strip < 1472727853 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472728717 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472729056 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472729768 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472732906 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MACRO CHICKEN < 1472733045 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1472733741 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkylfnjoswuxxxja QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472734818 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jdmleuxjlcustcuj JOIN :#esoteric < 1472736015 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472736951 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`make < 1472736952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. < 1472736968 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` make it stop < 1472736968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** No rule to make target `it'. Stop. < 1472737231 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think make wants you to stop < 1472737238 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be wrong though < 1472737623 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472737780 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` make $'\bdead' < 1472737782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** No rule to make target `dead'. Stop. < 1472738147 0 :lynn_!?@? NICK :lynn < 1472738166 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nplfhfdyfkzojemh QUIT :Changing host < 1472738166 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1472738166 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1472738166 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nplfhfdyfkzojemh JOIN :#esoteric < 1472738276 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1472738793 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472739296 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472739359 0 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1472739385 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472739538 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/forairan/b1143f42883b3b0ee1237bc9bd0b7b2c < 1472739616 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, did you know I'm older than Linux? < 1472739616 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: presumably you read the sisc documentation doesn't seem to work together is to convince some pirate that acm actually stores porn. main difference being in the same running sisc process? < 1472739627 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1472739644 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: nothing to brag. i am as old as perl! < 1472739707 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you can you tell? nobody knows how old perl is, because the history of perl before perl 1 is classified. < 1472739744 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the release date noted on wikipedia < 1472740057 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472740336 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@207-237-117-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472740780 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472742103 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472743224 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472743607 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472745153 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name sigarda's < 1472745154 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigarda's Aid \ W \ Enchantment \ You may cast Aura and Equipment spells as though they had flash. \ Whenever an Equipment enters the battlefield under your control, you may attach it to target creature you control. \ EMN-R < 1472746624 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472747512 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Falcon 9 exploded on launchpad < 1472747538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :payload lost, launch tower probably also lost < 1472747579 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472747667 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: an investigation will be launched < 1472747761 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in happier news, FF F8 F4 08 00 E5 16 7F FF 80 00 7F FF 03 C0 47 5A! < 1472747815 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those numbers for? < 1472747828 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -rp <<<"FF F8 F4 08 00 E5 16 7F FF 80 00 7F FF 03 C0 47 5A" < 1472747829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................øô.åÿ€.ÿÀGZ < 1472747846 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<"FF F8 F4 08 00 E5 16 7F FF 80 00 7F FF 03 C0 47 5A" < 1472747846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ÿøô.åÿ€.ÿÀGZ < 1472747856 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: er what? < 1472747864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that mean? < 1472747868 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I give a hint? < 1472747878 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1472747913 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472747924 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<"FF F8 F4 08 00 E5 16 7F FF 80 00 7F FF 03 C0 47 5A" >gunzip - < 1472747926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472747929 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Do alert me when you want the hint. < 1472747931 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<"FF F8 F4 08 00 E5 16 7F FF 80 00 7F FF 03 C0 47 5A" |gunzip - < 1472747931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ gzip: stdin: not in gzip format < 1472747940 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1472747942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1472747971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Want the hint, or not? < 1472747980 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that looks like an MPEG header < 1472747983 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can give the hint < 1472747990 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So close with MPEG! < 1472747999 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, they explicitly did things to the sync code, < 1472748008 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not a whole MPEG file (or some trivially empty one), it's too small for that < 1472748009 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that an MPEG decoder would NOT get it confused. < 1472748009 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's jpeg? < 1472748014 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not JPEG, either. < 1472748040 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also note that this format usually has framing, but if you pass it to the decoder, it'll accept it anyway. < 1472748064 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: not jpeg < 1472748106 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@207-237-117-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472748118 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: is it a bug test case, as in, a file that gets some mpeg player or other program confused and crash or something? < 1472748122 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1472748129 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472748138 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a totally legitimate file, if you discount the lack of header. < 1472748160 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472748215 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: apparently it might be an audio-only file < 1472748221 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep! It is! < 1472748225 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own computer says AAC (although I have no program to play such a file) < 1472748231 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, not AAC. < 1472748271 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a speaker here, so I can't listen to it < 1472748279 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have Audacity? < 1472748291 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does seem to start to play without errors < 1472748304 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to cheat, Audacity should open it, though if it'll recognize it without the right file extension... < 1472748315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's a very small audio file you can actually play < 1472748317 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vlc says it's mp4a < 1472748319 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :smaller than I expected < 1472748331 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, if it's 4.096 seconds, then you have the right format. < 1472748338 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, it's flac < 1472748343 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas wins! < 1472748351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know what it contains < 1472748365 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SoX fails to determine the type. I do not have Audacity. < 1472748366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I messed around until it sounded OK. < 1472748376 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kind of sounds like a radio being tuned or something. < 1472748377 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: but how can it be so small? < 1472748387 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I manually tuned the LPC parameters! < 1472748394 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then looked at what comes out! < 1472748399 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I did say I omitted the header. < 1472748401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's LPC < 1472748403 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472748413 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Something about "linear prediction". < 1472748422 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's just flac without a container, but that's fine, I'm used to such media files < 1472748430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vlc doesn't play it with file extention flac < 1472748437 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need containers if you want to seek or have multiple streams or metadata or such things < 1472748450 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may need a container to play it with some media players < 1472748463 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can put it in a container if you want, it shouldn't be too hard to engineer one < 1472748468 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: some media players probably can't play it no matter what < 1472748476 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, some media players don't play FLAC at all < 1472748489 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, that's no fun! < 1472748499 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I could put it to a container too, but the wonderful part is how small it is, and that would be lost < 1472748514 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can play FLAC on my computer but I don't know if it might not play without the header? < 1472748523 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Audacity will load it, < 1472748533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have Audacity < 1472748539 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and for some formats, you need a container to explicitly tell what the video framerate is, because the video format only stores a sequence of images without timestamps or framerate < 1472748548 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: flac -d test.flac < 1472748551 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should work < 1472748559 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh by the way, I wanted to ask, < 1472748560 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What options do I need for SoX to load it? If I write -t flac then it says sampling rate was not specified < 1472748574 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Again, use flac -d, or prepend a header. < 1472748577 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: could you figure out that css html multi-columns thing? < 1472748583 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: should I give a hint about the sound file? < 1472748590 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No I did not figure out the HTML multi-columns < 1472748615 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK give the hint; it seems SoX won't load it though < 1472748620 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: A hint about the sound file? It's FLAC. You all know that now :) < 1472748629 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SoX probably wants a container. < 1472748629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: about how to play or convert < 1472748631 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: play with ffplay (of ffmpeg) < 1472748648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffmpeg is generally the best to load strange or partly broken media files < 1472748655 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will open stuff other programs won't < 1472748660 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has a nice visualization, too < 1472748663 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also use ffmpeg to put it to a container probably < 1472748678 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -c copy will do it without even losing the size < 1472748682 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1472748708 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... not. < 1472748718 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you still need a container, any container must add to the size < 1472748738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, but it'll still remain smaller than if it was reencoded < 1472748751 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I will have to install those programs if I want to be able to play such file. (Fortunately I can install them; they are included in the package manager) < 1472748751 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least if it wasn't failing because ffmpeg (unlike ffplay) doesn't like it... < 1472748932 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :successfully converted to mp3 < 1472748966 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found a problem with writing a header - it requires me to decode the file to get the MD5. < 1472749042 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: mind you, ffplay also thinks the sound is very short < 1472749051 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: How short? < 1472749063 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 4.096 seconds is correct. < 1472749084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: dunno, with -autoexit it exits in a blink (definitely under a second) < 1472749099 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :without -autoexit it plays past the end < 1472749104 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a clue what's going on there then. < 1472749114 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it just doesn't like the lack of a container (and thus a fixed size) < 1472749136 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: right, could guess wrong about something that should be in the container header < 1472749164 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try naming the file x.flac < 1472749185 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472749279 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not easier to encode silence? < 1472749305 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that would depend on the format < 1472749350 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :flac has a model for silence < 1472749361 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://xiph.org/flac/format.html#prediction < 1472749367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in musical notation, silence and any given note take the same amount od space < 1472749378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck? < 1472749392 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there two people in here who play with the details of the flac format? < 1472749394 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this channel? < 1472749447 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a channel for digital esotericism < 1472749457 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :does playing since two minutes ago count? < 1472749474 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :flac frame format: now playing < 1472749496 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it may be easier to encode silence, but that's less fun < 1472749530 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's a specific subframe type for "absolutely nothing but one sample for however long" < 1472749540 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't make it a good idea, though. < 1472749546 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this signal is the raw prediction out of one of the more advanced predictors? < 1472749566 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used for encoding, well, actual digital silence < 1472749581 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: exactly, so it's no fun < 1472749608 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :like between singles < 1472749629 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: SUBFRAME_FIXED, order 3 (the missing -1 on _FIXED is NOT a documentation error), warmup 0x7FFF, 0x8000, 0x7FFF, no residual. < 1472749686 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I say "no residual", what I mean is, RICE-1, partition order 0, escape code, 0-bit. Apparently no residual is a rare enough case they had to make it take 15 bits to encode. < 1472749797 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: this might explain why the length isn't known and ffplay assumes it's very short < 1472749806 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but keeps continuing to play < 1472749822 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No, it has a length. < 1472749831 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The length of it is described as the block size. < 1472749840 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32768 samples. < 1472749842 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason for that is probably because there is no flac metadata < 1472749880 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ok < 1472750061 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, adding the header and double-checking it's correct makes Audacity act differently (it's somehow making it 1-bit) < 1472750069 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what's going on there < 1472750075 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffplay is fine with it though < 1472750094 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and VLC... < 1472750117 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 bit is p cool < 1472750175 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, except I set the file to 16-bit. I think 8-bit is possible but I had some issues with it, so I just took the path of least resistance. < 1472750222 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, what the... the sample dots aren't even showing up < 1472750229 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like it amped it up too high < 1472750269 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, Audacity amped it up too high < 1472750293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 1-bit due to clipping < 1472750397 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, for anyone who wants to waste a bunch of extra bytes, < 1472750445 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1472750447 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the header is... < 1472750452 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my goodness, that is one long header < 1472750462 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00: 66 4c 61 43 80 00 00 22 80 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 < 1472750470 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10: 00 00 01 f4 00 f0 00 00 80 00 1c 06 a4 4c 0f 38 < 1472750479 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20: bc 47 61 ab 33 ce 65 76 04 b1 < 1472750485 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472750492 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the actual frame: < 1472750514 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2A: ff f8 f4 08 00 e5 16 7f ff 80 00 7f ff 03 c0 47 5a < 1472750543 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you overlap the md5 entry with the frame itself < 1472750559 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1472750569 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unfortunate < 1472750571 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you had an MD5 that ended in FF F8 < 1472750582 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: can you use some other container? < 1472750586 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like the metadata header is fixed-size < 1472750597 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use vorbis, but that is going to be even bigger < 1472750612 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorbis is a totally different codec, and if you mean Ogg, that will be tons bigger < 1472750626 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you'll get the Ogg page headers, supplementary headers dragged in by FLAC < 1472750655 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tested, the result was 202 bytes < 1472750664 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now SoX recognizes it as FLAC, but says error whilst decoding metadata < 1472750703 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: working fine for me on SoX... < 1472750708 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, SoX "play", anyway < 1472750743 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep in mind the 00 / 10 / 20 / 2A are just address info < 1472750769 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know that < 1472750777 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a clue, then. < 1472750808 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The header should be 42 bytes, the frame should be 17. < 1472750887 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have apparently created an unpausable FLAC file, or at least in VLC anyway. Plus, the Ogg-container version won't load in VLC. < 1472750941 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replacing "xxd -r -p" with "utftovlq 48" has the same result and still doesn't work. < 1472750956 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1472750958 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also tried both of these versions with hd, and the data is same as above in both cases.) < 1472750960 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe double-check the hexdump? < 1472750965 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472750969 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, no clue then < 1472751020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun to see webpages with between 500 and 30000 pages all numbered with continuous indexes in the url, and a table of contents that ALMOST covers a range of natural numbers for the indexes < 1472751020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's it without any room for error, just in case I messed up: < 1472751026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 66 4c 61 43 80 00 00 22 80 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 |fLaC..."........| < 1472751026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000010 00 00 01 f4 00 f0 00 00 80 00 1c 06 a4 4c 0f 38 |.............L.8| < 1472751026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000020 bc 47 61 ab 33 ce 65 76 04 b1 ff f8 f4 08 00 e5 |.Ga.3.ev........| < 1472751026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000030 16 7f ff 80 00 7f ff 03 c0 47 5a |.........GZ| < 1472751031 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can look at what the hidden pages missing from the table of contents are < 1472751098 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is exactly what I have. < 1472751109 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no clue what is wrong with the file < 1472751123 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH! "MD5 signature mismatch" < 1472751124 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1472751133 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I wrote the MD5 signature incorrectly into the file < 1472751219 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now I'm going to have to find some way of making absolutely sure I cut up this WAV file in exactly the right way, including endianness, < 1472751228 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I get the right MD5 at the end of it < 1472751263 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if the "Other Uncompressed Files" option in Audacity wasn't making this harder by omitting important information. To SoX! < 1472751280 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(via the "flac" command-line tool) < 1472751383 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some copying and pasting, especially of ",0x", later...) < 1472751423 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: md5 signature mismatch. < 1472751475 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reversing the signature migh---ERROR: md5 signature mismatch. < 1472751492 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, do players actually check the md5 digest < 1472751522 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "flac" command-line tool does, and goodness knows how far that mess has spread < 1472751537 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, it's basically a self-test to ensure the decoder's working correctly < 1472751544 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess libflac might < 1472751557 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you could end up with *gasp* slightly modified audio data! < 1472751663 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, half of the hidden pages are broken, and half are apparently omitted because the code making the toc is broken < 1472751718 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that can't be good for research. < 1472751804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, it's a nice way to make automatic self-tests for unusual configurations (eg. strange operating systems or compilation options) < 1472751865 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A passing neutron hit their FLAC files, and modifying a VERBATIM segment, it became... not the true audio!" < 1472751894 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All scientific inaccuracies intentional.) < 1472751908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no, seriously, it's for detecting bugs that only come up when both the system is unusual and the file is. those bugs wouldn't normally be reported, because people would just assume the audio file they're playing is broken. < 1472751943 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough, though if both the system and the file are unusual, fun may occur. < 1472751982 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if the system is unusual enough that something goes wrong in the decoder, it's pretty bad from a "completely, 100%, lossless" standpoint. < 1472751990 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472752276 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop making fun of people who merely want bit-for-bit reproduction of their rick rubin albums < 1472752598 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea of new Magic: the Gathering card: The next time a nontoken Aura dies this turn, you may cast it. < 1472752602 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what cost or name) < 1472753008 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I'm more concerned about signal processing, where there may be a good use case for lossless files. < 1472753286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:199.15.233.15610]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472753455 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472753890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: right, video/music editing would produce very bad results if every operation involved decoding and reencoding with lossage < 1472754300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/_BgJEXQkjNQ < 1472754332 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that the upper stage oxygen tank may have exploded, which caused the rest to fail < 1472754386 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472754542 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1472754545 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got a problem < 1472754560 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found some non-gpl code with a comment "[...] copied from linux" < 1472754573 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which in this case is likely to refer to glibc < 1472754589 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know how old a version of glibc < 1472754603 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do < 1472754677 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is this code, and why are you using it? < 1472754766 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose i don't/can't show it < 1472754817 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i found it < 1472754819 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was glibc < 1472754827 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do now? < 1472754860 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... if it's under uncertain legal terms, why is it in the codebase? < 1472755396 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's complicated < 1472755424 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under this scenario, I'd probably excise it from the codebase if at all possible. < 1472755433 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472755451 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a routine from glibc, though, it may be possible to simply refer to the routine. < 1472755456 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's actually accessible... < 1472755457 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: is it in code that you intend to eventually distribute, as opposed to code you're just using in house? < 1472755475 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472755475 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has already been distributed < 1472755497 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gulp* < 1472755505 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: try to contact its author or maintainer maybe? < 1472755525 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it being distributed as source? < 1472755528 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1472755535 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ick. < 1472755539 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at wob_jonas < 1472755545 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will not speak of this. understood? < 1472755572 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Problem solved. And now for a 100-verse scrawl on beer. < 1472755578 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bottles of beer, sitting on the wall < 1472755583 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: maybe look at whether it's copied to glibc from some other source that is under a less restricted license? < 1472755590 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh what < 1472755595 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whether you can find a replacement code that does something similar < 1472755598 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even a thing? < 1472755603 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bottles of beer, sitting on the wall, and if one should happen, to accidentally fall.. < 1472755615 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: why not? you can try to look at comments in the file in glibc in case they tell that < 1472755679 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if glibc has such pieces of code, but it certainly happens in other gpl-ed software < 1472755686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the free software licenses are for < 1472755707 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally would use a force-push to try and excise it's very existence, and then have it under a gentleperson's agreement that nobody says anything. Push the existence of the glibc code down the memory hole. < 1472755723 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just cover it up. < 1472755727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably the first. < 1472755744 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, though, if it's already in released builds, and it's actually GPL'd code, there is nothing you can do. < 1472755772 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been in released builds for several years < 1472755782 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not help matters. < 1472755806 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given you said there's no source distribution going on, it's probably already a violation of the GPL. < 1472755828 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'll probably want to remove the code ASAP and pretend it never existed. < 1472755871 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, you know, writing "Oh we were violating the GPL but we fixed that now" into a changelog is not a good idea. < 1472755930 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: why not? < 1472755935 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured that < 1472755951 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I'm assuming izabera's priorities involve keeping a job. < 1472756116 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, izabera, never tell us who you work for. Ever. < 1472756153 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say that this is happening where i work < 1472756183 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, ok. It just seemed that way, given the whole "released binary only product going for several years" thing < 1472756501 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: great, you get this plausible deniability thing < 1472756513 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nInE nIn botLs uv bEr on Du wol, nInE nIn botLs uv bEr. if wun uv Dos botLs Sud hapN tU fol, nInE At botLs uv bEr on Du wol < 1472756546 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a rather tipsy transcription < 1472756548 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, since you already said it's not distributed as a source, but you read a source comment, so there aren't that many possibilities remaining < 1472756567 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: in what way? < 1472756660 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472756678 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472756701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess some people pronounce ninety nIndE and not nInE < 1472756785 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, since my dialect doesn't have t in botLs it should just be boLs < 1472756798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps bolLs < 1472756811 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :balls to the walls < 1472756835 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bodLs perhaps? < 1472756851 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the closest approximation < 1472757176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why but toronto english seems to slur the hell out of everything < 1472757294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472757317 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472757349 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slR Du hel Wt uv evrETiG < 1472757368 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in less sane happier news, apparently warmup 6000 5FFF 6000 5FFF creates random noise. < 1472757381 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow. < 1472757408 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it's not quite random noise. < 1472757434 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's little circles here and there showing it was at some point meant to resemble sound. < 1472757448 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it somehow tricking the decoder into reading uninitialized memory < 1472757453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1472757455 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully not < 1472757459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not as far as I know, anyway. < 1472757476 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just upload a screenshot of it in Audacity? < 1472757481 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1472757484 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it explains more than anything else what's going on... < 1472757500 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472757526 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phelltom_Hellover < 1472757569 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: apparently 6000 5FFF 6000 5FFF in a flac file creates random looking noise < 1472757586 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good? < 1472757594 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is investigating this < 1472757616 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not so much random looking < 1472757624 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you look at it it's clearly not random < 1472757646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :random sounding then < 1472757675 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/butterfly.png < 1472757703 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure there's some overflows involved here. < 1472757704 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea why. < 1472757777 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's not just those 8 bytes < 1472757790 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are just the warmup constants I used, you have to have the stuff around them < 1472757810 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The total FLAC frame is 18 bytes < 1472757841 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FF F8 F4 08 00 E5 18 60 00 5F FF 60 00 5F FF 03 C0 FC 5C < 1472757882 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's interesting that it acts kind of like it has a "velocity" of some sort < 1472757902 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the "velocity" gets so high that it just acts like a decrement instead of an increment < 1472757990 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a bit where it actually stops sounding like noise < 1472758003 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's at 2.048s < 1472758009 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly half way in < 1472758016 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it goes back to being noise again < 1472758041 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :course, it's only 0.01 long, so it's just a click before it gets back to being noise-like again < 1472758110 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the fractional part of a polynomial, isn't it < 1472758127 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: not exaclty < 1472758145 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: no, it's exponential, sort of like those quadratic recursion random generators < 1472758153 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing has a cusp when its slope get high wnough < 1472758236 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it's something like x+=v;v+=a;x=x%1; < 1472758240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472758277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472758282 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or x = x & 0xFFFF < 1472758285 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely < 1472758300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v is some sort of wraparound int < 1472758319 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain why the value suddenly switches direction < 1472758386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news, for some reason, yesterday I decided to make a crappy calculator < 1472758701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472758708 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely this is fairly easy to work out by brute force < 1472758724 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just track through how the flac algorithm decodes those bytes < 1472758736 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fun to theorize < 1472758742 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you could just look at the code < 1472758750 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file doesn't even use complicated coefficients, < 1472758758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a SUBFRAME_FIXED < 1472758760 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :order 4 < 1472758804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the graph you posted is clearly a smooth curve modulo something < 1472758822 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472758843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weird thing is < 1472758849 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something that looks like a sine wave in it < 1472758858 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a sine wave < 1472758871 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 1.873, len 0.009 < 1472758876 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472758887 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: there always is, in a periodic function < 1472758901 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any function really < 1472758912 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to Fourier < 1472758938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, imo try lifting those samples you have to see the underlying curve < 1472758972 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472759008 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472759093 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what? < 1472759106 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472759106 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 4+ < 1472759114 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing this stupid calculator < 1472759129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not working < 1472759160 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472759172 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw anyone wanna try an IRC-based esolang? https://github.com/SoniEx2/CTCP-S/blob/master/ctcp-s.md#sub < 1472759172 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472759175 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but that was fairly clear after the first few failed attempts < 1472759189 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be turing-complete, that is you should be able to write a brainfuck interpreter using CTCP-S SUB < 1472759195 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "irssi: not enough parameters given" < 1472759200 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*should* < 1472759225 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know why < 1472759263 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello APNG. < 1472759292 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's basically a C preprocessor derivative btw) < 1472759297 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi gamemanj < 1472759353 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+p < 1472759353 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1472759363 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472759366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes, but these are very obvious sine waves: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/butterfly_detail.png < 1472759380 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@207-237-117-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472759387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's occurring in the line that prints the output < 1472759397 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 3+= < 1472759410 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ocal 2 19+ < 1472759411 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$server->command("msg $target ". botscript($message)); < 1472759419 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :%ocal 14 7- < 1472759429 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+. < 1472759431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1472759438 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472759445 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's charapcter number 8 < 1472759479 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! < 1472759481 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, irssi doesn't let me output nothing < 1472759498 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? nothing is something < 1472759500 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 48+. < 1472759500 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1472759500 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something is nothin < 1472759504 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nothing < 1472759509 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC server won't let you to send a blank message, but you can send a message containing only places. < 1472759511 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/places/spaces/ < 1472759514 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:190a:af7:6c72:8c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472759555 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can get oren banned by sending "❄ocal 4 3+."! < 1472759581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+p < 1472759581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 8 < 1472759594 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, a snowman before the actal output < 1472759602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 4 4+ < 1472759602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ < 1472759633 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the bot's trigger character is a snowflake < 1472759680 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 2 19+ < 1472759680 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ < 1472759686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 2 9+ < 1472759687 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ < 1472759689 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 2 4+ < 1472759690 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ < 1472759694 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472759694 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you neep p to output the anwser < 1472759702 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of like dc < 1472759703 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 2 19+p < 1472759704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 21 < 1472759705 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1472759727 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 999 7%p < 1472759727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ -4 < 1472759731 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 077p < 1472759731 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 63 < 1472759747 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it operates on bytes < 1472759808 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 8 4pp < 1472759808 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 44 < 1472759816 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 8 4pskp < 1472759816 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 44 < 1472759839 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 8 4 pdpd < 1472759839 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 48 < 1472759875 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe p shuld just be destructive < 1472759880 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472759885 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no < 1472759890 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not destructive in dc < 1472759898 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very useful for debugging < 1472759912 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should print a newline after the number though < 1472759935 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added a space < 1472759947 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 8 4pskp < 1472759947 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 48 < 1472759955 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you? < 1472760004 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 8 4 pdp < 1472760004 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 4 8 < 1472760033 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I guess d should be dup. but then i dunno about drop < 1472760049 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: add an s command, that's enough for dropping < 1472760073 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, r for remove? < 1472760083 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or y for yank < 1472760104 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or a ! command (as in underload) < 1472760114 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, we want dc compatibility :-) < 1472760145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not going to be dc compatible if it acts on bytes < 1472760162 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yeah, just similar syntax so it's easy to learn < 1472760178 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for now, y will work < 1472760182 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 3 9p # can I add comments? < 1472760182 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 9 < 1472760194 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472760231 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 60 p # p < 1472760232 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 60 < 1472760233 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 3 9p [maybe just use strings as comments]sk < 1472760233 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 9 < 1472760242 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have strings < 1472760251 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :onyl bytes < 1472760304 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 255 1 + p < 1472760304 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 < 1472760306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472760349 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has an @ command however < 1472760367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 2 3 4 5 6 3 @ p < 1472760367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 4 < 1472760376 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 2 3 4 5 6 2 @ p < 1472760376 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 5 < 1472760382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 2 3 4 5 6 0 @ p < 1472760382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 < 1472760440 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the key feature I'm gonna add is the ability to switch the type the calculator acts on < 1472760453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal _5 < 1472760453 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ < 1472760460 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could use the D command to switch to doubles < 1472760462 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 251 < 1472760462 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ < 1472760467 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal _5p < 1472760468 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 5 < 1472760470 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 251p < 1472760471 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ -5 < 1472760502 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ 9p < 1472760524 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 105 73+p156 40+p45 187+p227 27+p109 33+p179 16+p241 61+p56 58+p5 89+p5 86+p168 148+p # expect -78 -60 -24 -2 -114 -61 46 114 94 91 -67 -99 < 1472760524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ -78 -60 -24 -2 -114 -61 46 114 94 91 60 < 1472760589 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 153 37-p156 109-p84 183-p166 147-p219 209-p234 189-p57 214-p157 149-p1 134-p27 220-p116 8-p93 255-p # expect 116 47 -99 19 10 45 99 8 123 63 108 94 < 1472760589 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ -103 -100 84 -90 -37 -22 57 -99 1 27 116 93 < 1472760595 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no < 1472760623 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 9 2-p < 1472760624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 9 < 1472760628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1472760635 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 9 1-p < 1472760636 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 9 < 1472760644 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 9 1 -p < 1472760644 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 9 < 1472760647 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 9 3 -p < 1472760647 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 9 < 1472760651 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 9 3 |p < 1472760651 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 11 < 1472760658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 9 4 |p < 1472760658 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 13 < 1472760662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1472760670 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :| is logical or < 1472760686 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er isn't logical or < 1472760686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does - do? < 1472760706 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ei(*c=='-'){s[0]=-s[0];} < 1472760738 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 3 - p < 1472760738 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 < 1472760744 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1472760762 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sandbox capability in Node.js isn't very good but I would suggest other way you can by making a JavaScript library for accessing a JavaScript implementation. (V8 is accessed from C++, but my suggestion is a way to make V8 accessible through JavaScript code too.) < 1472760792 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 3 - p < 1472760793 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ -3 < 1472760798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1472760832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 - 077 |p < 1472760832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ -1 < 1472760837 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 - 077 &p < 1472760837 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 63 < 1472760838 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what other operations do you have? < 1472760858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 - 077 ^p < 1472760858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ -64 < 1472760888 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 1 = 2 3 = |p < 1472760888 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 1 < 1472760898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think of what I wrote about isolated sandbox for JavaScript in JavaScript? < 1472760940 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: not much atm, but I'll be adding various types first < 1472760940 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sandbox implemented in javascript, or a javascript api to the control sandbox? < 1472761005 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: A JavaScript API to a JavaScript sandbox < 1472761035 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The API would probably be implemented in C++ because that is what V8 requires) < 1472761057 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And V8 would be used because that is what Node.js uses) < 1472761062 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isn't that already implemented in browsers basically, and essentially invokable some combination of frames and some other stuff? < 1472761093 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with plugins that let you control the browser from javascript but the pages also have javascript or something < 1472761095 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like what is in browsers yes, but for Node.js instead of browsers and programmable through JavaScript on the outside too < 1472761115 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Firefox uses XPCOM but that has several problems) < 1472761156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: will you list the operations this supports somewhere? < 1472761197 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder which operations it should support. Maybe I'll just keep it with bytes but support a lot of byte stuff? < 1472761248 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the u command will undrop < 1472761298 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ocal.c.htm < 1472761463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 2 + u + u + p < 1472761463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 7 < 1472761524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal uu+p < 1472761524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 < 1472761594 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define eg else goto < 1472761608 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well that code is evil < 1472761624 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can we hack into \oren\'s machine now < 1472761629 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not looking) < 1472761639 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1472761644 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: probably no < 1472761666 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it would let you look at anything in the ocal process's memory space < 1472761684 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why are you writing the number input routines in such a verbose way? < 1472761700 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid growing the stack < 1472761725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: um... but < 1472761749 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but why not fewer branches instead of repeated code? < 1472761749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing that char *s=((char*)(&c))+1000; thing again < 1472761799 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, because... uh, I dunno < 1472761826 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, instead of ei(*c=='1'){s[1]=1;s++;c++;goto bytedecmode;}...ei(*c=='9'){s[1]=9;s++;c++;goto bytedecmode;} just write something like ei('1'<=*c&&*c<='9'){s[1]=c-'0';s++;c++;goto bytedecmode;} < 1472761900 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1472761907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, did that < 1472761938 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 2+u+u+p < 1472761939 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 7 < 1472761945 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 100p < 1472761945 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 100 < 1472761951 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 077p < 1472761951 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 63 < 1472761960 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh, works fine < 1472762173 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for some reason chrome thinks I wrote that program in norwegian < 1472762221 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is eg and ei words in norwegian? < 1472762268 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I bet eg means like an egg < 1472762296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it Ei that means an egg? < 1472762560 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-207-59.ddns.ualr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472762582 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan are ei and eg words in norwegian, and which one means en:egg? < 1472762582 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472762830 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently ei is a female article (*one* female) and eg the first-person singular pronoun (I) < 1472762891 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Ei still means an egg in German though, doesn't it? < 1472762898 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1472763021 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: wait, don't you speak German natively? I somehow thought you did. < 1472763046 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be one of my usual mixups. < 1472763052 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1472763058 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he's from Hungary? < 1472763068 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1472763168 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why the english word egg has two g's though < 1472763194 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg and egs would work just as well < 1472763195 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: because "eg." is already a word < 1472763250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/egg#English ... seems to have two g's in many languages, actually < 1472763301 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICS "eg." does not exist. "e.g." and "eg" do. < 1472763401 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :electronic goblin < 1472763449 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :extraordinary gullibility < 1472763460 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a german native speaker < 1472763550 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what yahoo is planning that they've suddenly shut out all 3rd party apps from using the messenger network < 1472763566 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that anyone used it anyway, but ... did they have some reason to think people will? < 1472763866 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot infestation? < 1472763879 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-207-59.ddns.ualr.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472764099 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eg and egs"...? when'd we move from linguistics to webcomics? Oh, look at the time...*falls asleep on desk* < 1472764160 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, I remember EGS < 1472764206 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets woken up by music < 1472764230 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "oh god" does not sound like a good thing" < 1472764239 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't there a european DVD version of The Expanse < 1472764351 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-207-59.ddns.ualr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472764469 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472764633 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's alive! https://is.gd/HQfus8 barely... < 1472764634 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it's one of those comics that I feel foolish about now, having grown up a little < 1472765795 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:190a:af7:6c72:8c1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472766075 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :'eg' for 'I' is nynorsk I believe < 1472766634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472766842 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can now add commands to it https://is.gd/PNZ1hc < 1472766917 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@207-237-117-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472767003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472767698 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472767851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472768008 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472768265 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472768289 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472768459 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-207-59.ddns.ualr.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472768668 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6eu137bm7gg6t.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472769064 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472769233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( The distance between a point and the origin in n-space divided by the square root of n is equal to the root-mean-square of the values in the point) < 1472769267 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1472769474 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@207-237-117-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472769549 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472770298 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472770453 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472770455 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know a good math expression evalulator (thats a programming library or a program itself)? < 1472770860 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472771032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472771248 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-207-59.ddns.ualr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472771371 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472771717 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472771735 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472772013 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472772017 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@207-237-117-115.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472773106 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't be hard to write one... < 1472773361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472773481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1472773482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ asked 3h 1m 39s ago: are ei and eg words in norwegian, and which one means en:egg? < 1472773499 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472773538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ yes, yes (in nynorsk), neither (en:egg = no:egg) < 1472773539 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472773557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ in fact i vaguely recall english borrowed it from us hth < 1472773557 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472773590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472773603 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1472773616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horror movies are dumb < 1472773624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terror movies are MUCH more entertaining < 1472773642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mirror movies are more reflective < 1472773731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the last two blocks i made are in the same range < 1472773847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:199.15.233.152/2910]] with an expiry time of 17:07, 1 September 2017 (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472774136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:31.184.238.0/2410]] with an expiry time of 03:48, 29 August 2017 (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472774221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd remove the redundant ones, but that seems spammy < 1472774355 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric