< 1473033681 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473034341 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473035051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473035299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I probably don't know enough group theory to get this <-- i knew enough group theory but not enough irish geography. < 1473035338 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd actually heard about the monster group, but that is probably more due to casual wikipedia browsing than maths knowledge < 1473035354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it _is_ the most famous sporadic group. < 1473035361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the largest) < 1473035366 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even listed on WP:UA < 1473036047 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473036290 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.81 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473036314 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473036323 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473038112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@216.137.247.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473038267 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473038413 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473038794 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473039098 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.81 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473039293 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473039362 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Client Quit < 1473039674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@216.137.247.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473039736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Logicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49692&oldid=49691 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+64) 10 < 1473039797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Logicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49693&oldid=49692 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+39) 10 < 1473041012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@216.137.247.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473041777 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473041787 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1473042569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@216.137.247.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473042820 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473042914 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473042915 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@216.137.247.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Apparently, flagged half notes are a thing < 1473042920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@216.137.247.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think you're the one I was talking to) < 1473045352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@216.137.247.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473045450 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the sound quality like on bone-conduction headphones? < 1473045486 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is relevant to my interests < 1473045583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit ossified. < 1473045599 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION holds up a giant BOOO sign < 1473045671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, i'll be here all week, unless i get dragged away. < 1473049489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido Robdgreat < 1473049496 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robdgreat: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1473049520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignore the bit about no hablamos espñol. < 1473049540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the welcomes were supposed to be direct translations? < 1473049556 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, help me out here. which bot am I ignoring? < 1473049564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ignoring HackEgo? < 1473049573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's because of the venezuelans, who wouldn't get the point that this isn't a spanish channel. < 1473049579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1473049580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1473049583 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1473049590 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to live to regret unignoring him < 1473049592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Robdgreat < 1473049594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Robdgreat: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1473049607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust shachaf to work hard on the regretting part < 1473049631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd welcome//s#!#! Unfortunately, most of us do not speak Spanish.# < 1473049640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does this mean that you do speak spanish < 1473049641 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man relcome looks a lot better with my new color scheme < 1473049647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me. < 1473049667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't mean that it's false, just irrelevant. < 1473049688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Come on, I've made so many improvements to HackEgo. < 1473049693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. < 1473049703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shaventions < 1473049704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/{h,d}oag, le//rn, tmp/, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them. < 1473049712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without me you'd still be echo > and seding all the time. < 1473049723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1473049724 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And never culpriting, and so on. < 1473049747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits shavention < 1473049749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf < 1473049771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'd doag? < 1473049772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg shavention < 1473049777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-06-28 slwd shavention//s#hogue#{h,d}oag# \ 2016-06-25 sled wisdom/shavention//s#mk#tmp/, mk# \ 2016-06-07 sled wisdom/shavention//s/\\*list, // \ 2016-06-05 sedlast s/$/. Taneb invented them./ \ 2016-06-05 le/rn shavention/shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/hogue, le//rn, *lis < 1473049793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure I shavented some more things since then. < 1473049821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess i invented the w versions, maybe. < 1473049830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dog bin/doag < 1473049831 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dog: not found < 1473049838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/doag < 1473049840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-06-27 mkx bin/doag//hg log --removed --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\\n" -- "$@" < 1473049854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was in June?! < 1473049872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l template bin < 1473049876 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/lastfiles \ bin/hoag \ bin/doag \ bin/macro \ bin/hog \ bin/culprits-ng \ bin/before < 1473049921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, you shavented all the w versions. < 1473050001 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l wisdom bin < 1473050002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/lastwisdoms \ bin/learn \ bin/learn_append2 \ bin/leann \ bin/slashlearn \ bin/dowg \ bin/learn_append \ bin/howg \ bin/slwd \ bin/forget \ bin/? \ bin/pastewisdom \ bin/wisdöm \ bin/cwlprits \ bin/footnote \ bin/wisdom \ bin/ls < 1473050013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdöm < 1473050014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ wisdom | döts < 1473050018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/ho{,a}g < 1473050019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" \ hg log --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1473050023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/döts < 1473050024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ print_args_or_input "$@" | sed -re "y/aehiotuwxyAEHIOUWXY/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿÄËḦÏÖÜẄẌŸ/" < 1473050055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to shavent dog for completeness? < 1473050073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1473050078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lastwisdoms < 1473050079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find .hg/store/data/wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 /bin/ls -t | perl -pe 'use POSIX;chop;$d=strftime("%F",localtime((stat($_))[9]));s=^.hg/store/data/wisdom/(.*).i$=\1 // =;s=^=/$d/ = if$d ne$p;$p=$d;s=_(.)=uc($1)=eg;s=~([0-9a-f][0-9a-f])=chr hex$1=eg' < 1473050093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic b_jonas < 1473050099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprism lastwisdoms < 1473050100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cwlprism: not found < 1473050107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits lastwisdoms < 1473050108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just find it slightly inelegant that the a and w modifiers clash in position... < 1473050112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473050113 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about höwg? < 1473050125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is a consistently used < 1473050128 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, good point. < 1473050147 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoawg < 1473050153 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :howag < 1473050160 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haowg < 1473050170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ho{w,a}g < 1473050170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/ho{w,a}g: No such file or directory < 1473050174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/ho{w,a}g < 1473050175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "wisdom/$1" \ hg log --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1473050180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. The etymology is: < 1473050183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hog is hg log < 1473050201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag is a variant of hog (that uses --removed to show everything that might be relevant) < 1473050205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's named after Jonathan Hoag < 1473050209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/h{ow,wa}g < 1473050214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473050224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :howg is a variant of howg that has the same pronunciation, but adds wisdom/ < 1473050229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hwag shavention < 1473050231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ slwd shavention//s#hogue#{h,d}oag# \ sled wisdom/shavention//s#mk#tmp/, mk# \ sled wisdom/shavention//s/\\*list, // \ sedlast s/$/. Taneb invented them./ \ le/rn shavention/shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/hogue, le//rn, *list, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1 < 1473050238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT ANY MORE < 1473050243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hwag? < 1473050245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmns hth < 1473050271 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whag < 1473050292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, you can't just rename one of them. < 1473050295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about dowg? < 1473050301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should document the naming scheme if you < 1473050305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'re going to change it. < 1473050357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/howg//echo "howg is deprecated! use hwag instead."; exec hwag "$@" < 1473050359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/howg < 1473050382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/dowg < 1473050383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag "wisdom/$1" < 1473050414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/d{ow,wa}g < 1473050416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473050474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels conflicted < 1473050536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand this new scheme. < 1473050542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/d{wa,ow}g < 1473050544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473050549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/h{wa,ow}g < 1473050551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473050557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather revert the whole thing unless there's a consistent rationale or heuristic for figuring out the right script. < 1473050595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1473050600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DONE) < 1473050614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*g < 1473050615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/anonlog \ bin/culprits-ng \ bin/doag \ bin/dowg \ bin/hoag \ bin/hog \ bin/howg \ bin/log \ bin/noping \ bin/pastalog \ bin/pastelog \ bin/pastlog \ bin/ping \ bin/pong \ bin/preprocess-mtg \ bin/randomanonlog \ bin/rng \ bin/searchlog \ bin/something < 1473050627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/anonlog < 1473050628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | shuf -n 1| sed "s=<[^>]*> ==" \ else \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(grep "<.*>" $file | shuf -n 1)" | sed "s=<[^>]*> ==" \ fi < 1473050663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/something < 1473050663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....0@.....@....... ..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....À.......À............................@......@............................................@.......@.....\ ......\ ........ ....................`......`.....`......¬....... .................`.....`.....à.......à................ < 1473050667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/{d,h}*g < 1473050668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/doag \ bin/dowg \ bin/hoag \ bin/hog \ bin/howg < 1473050671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`something < 1473050672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1473050676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1473050685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -v 'remove' bin/{d,h}*g < 1473050686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/dowg:doag "wisdom/$1" \ bin/hog:hg log --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" \ bin/howg:hoag "wisdom/$1" < 1473050690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` objdump -d bin/something | paste < 1473050692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.15531 < 1473050704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bin/something < 1473050706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` mv jnk/something bin/something < 1473050706 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this rubbish? < 1473050713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only hog which doesn't use --removed < 1473050720 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1473050726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we want to standardize on always using --removed? < 1473050741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives more complete but often irrelevant output. < 1473050743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robdgreat: the'yre degugging and modifying the bot in realtime < 1473050781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dog < 1473050781 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dog: not found < 1473050786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hog bin/something < 1473050787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` mv jnk/something bin/something < 1473050793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1473050795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hog jnk/something < 1473050796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` mv bin/Something jnk/something < 1473050802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hog bin/Something < 1473050803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` gcc -x c -o bin/Something wGAUV3ER \ ` gcc -x c waDs9gmT -o bin/Something \ ` gcc -x c UZ3ESUfL -o bin/Something \ ` gcc -x c 6TL7V2mM -o bin/Something \ ` gcc -x c yn9LVhJv -o bin/Something < 1473050812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hog wGAUV3ER < 1473050813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert \ fetch http://pastebin.com/raw/wGAUV3ER < 1473050819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wGAUV3ER < 1473050820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wGAUV3ER < 1473050844 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an error ocured < 1473050980 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like that pastebin is some sort of crude interpreter < 1473050998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah one of moon_'s experiments. < 1473051041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or did he make a wiki page? i've forgotten.) < 1473051124 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473051252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome digin4 < 1473051254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07digin4: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1473051344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, welcome should be the wisdom version of relcome < 1473051359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is hth < 1473051462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true tdh < 1473051466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tmns < 1473051467 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmns makes no sense. < 1473051474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monkeys now sing < 1473051474 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473051496 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473051581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bananas now fly < 1473051599 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473051615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think digin4 found us too surreal < 1473051626 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473051643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or e's having connection trouble. < 1473051691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn about surreal numbers. < 1473051695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't someone in here an expert? < 1473051731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember. < 1473051775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? surreal number < 1473051776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surreal number? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473052077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn surreal number/Surrey numbers are very county, as long as they're not Spelthorne. < 1473052080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «surreal number» < 1473052141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wisdom should be sufficiently surreal hth < 1473052943 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473053889 0 :cyra!~tepru@aneu.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am frustrated at higher education mathematdicks < 1473053893 0 :cyra!~tepru@aneu.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :: - ( < 1473053901 0 :cyra!~tepru@aneu.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i just have a bad teacher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1473054079 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473054130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473055391 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473055791 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473056354 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473056904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473057508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473057755 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473058325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Your lightning is a dick to Reindeese < 1473058440 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1473058531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either hppavilion[1] is making a late surreal contribution, or he's finally cracked. < 1473058586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473059074 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473059096 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473060375 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sites.google.com/a/bostic.com/keithbostic/vi/nvi-faq#A14 < 1473060383 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy version 13.3 source with an unrestricted license for $400 from AT&T Software Solutions by calling +1-800-462-8146. Binary redistribution of cscope is an additional $1500, one-time flat fee. < 1473060386 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :suuuuuuuuuuuuure < 1473060390 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bargain < 1473061004 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling seems to be expensive < 1473061578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Logicode14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49694 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+215) 10Created page with "In the '''IO''' section, it uses the term
func
, but aren't
circ
declarations the way to make functions? ~~~~" < 1473063051 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473064156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan 300 reindeer were killed by lighting in Norway. < 1473064156 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473064755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Can a (novel-length) book be written without chapter format without looking terrible? ) < 1473064820 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xyfcmafuurxuuotp JOIN :#esoteric < 1473068052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473068542 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473069007 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473069055 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.79 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473069068 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473070234 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473070947 0 :primo_!~primo@49.49.242.248 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473073803 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473073834 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xyfcmafuurxuuotp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1473074051 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473077471 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1473077529 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473077806 0 :primo_!~primo@49.49.244.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473077894 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473077993 0 :primo_!~primo@49.49.244.199 PART #esoteric : < 1473079649 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473080304 0 :Tritonio!?@? NICK :Tritonio_ < 1473080539 0 :Tritonio_!?@? NICK :Tritonio < 1473080965 0 :Tritonio!?@? NICK :Tritonio_ < 1473080973 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:6597:eb67:4f74:7252 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473081044 0 :Tritonio_!?@? NICK :Tritonio__ < 1473081060 0 :Tritonio__!?@? NICK :Tritonio < 1473081245 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e53b:34b7:39fe:24d6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473081501 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e53b:34b7:39fe:24d6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473081516 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.77 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473081537 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473083275 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473084536 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473084702 0 :Tritonio!~tr@185.65.134.77 QUIT :Changing host < 1473084702 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473084830 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473084849 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473084887 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473084899 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473085475 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1473085508 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473085508 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473085538 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473085617 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473086369 0 :Tritonio_!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473086400 0 :Tritonio_!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473086414 0 :Tritonio_!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473086444 0 :Tritonio_!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473086458 0 :Tritonio_!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473086520 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1473086639 0 :Tritonio_!?@? NICK :Tritonio < 1473088624 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473088785 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473089067 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473089278 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473089688 0 :polybot!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473091063 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473091322 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1473091324 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hey < 1473091480 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to rewrite my lazy bird interpreter < 1473091487 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to do it with C# < 1473091492 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far not working so good < 1473091494 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it in lazy bird < 1473091505 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried thusly : < 1473091506 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric : del printx = x => { Console.Write('a'); return x; }; < 1473091506 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric : del m = x => x(x); < 1473091509 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric : m(printx); < 1473091517 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that only gives me a single a < 1473091529 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite sure why, I think it might be the order of evaluation < 1473091755 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I think the evaluation is backward compared to the normal operation < 1473091766 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :m(printx(i, 'a')(printx(i, 'b'))); prints "ab" rather than "ba" < 1473091778 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait no < 1473091780 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's correct < 1473091785 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then why < 1473091840 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473091884 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473092232 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473092233 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473092847 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473092893 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473093210 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473093237 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473093493 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: I don't seem to recall C# having a "del" keyword. < 1473093517 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :del is delegate del del(del a); < 1473093538 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that kosher to make a pure lambda expression < 1473093554 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, seems fine. < 1473093580 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might name it Del, though. < 1473093585 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :m(printx('a')); doesn't print two a's, even though printx('a')(printx('a')); does < 1473093606 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's named "del", then someone might mistake it for a keyword. < 1473093624 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psh who cares for someone :p < 1473093632 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like someone else will see that code < 1473093710 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, when you evaluate m(printx('a')), that's going to first evaluate printx('a') (which will output 'a') and then call m() on the result. < 1473093760 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1473093768 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I switch the order of evaluation? < 1473093794 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But wait, why does printx('a') typecheck? Isn't printx a "del", meaning it can only take a "del" as an argument? < 1473093797 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ain't called Lazy Bird for nothing < 1473093806 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could do something like... < 1473093809 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :printx isn't quite as pure < 1473093812 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m(unusedValue => printx('a')) < 1473093817 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's delegate del delchar(char c); < 1473093849 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. < 1473093852 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe what you're after is... < 1473093874 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something along the lines of... < 1473093898 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :delchar printx = inputChar => x => { Console.Write(inputChar); return x; }; < 1473093932 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that solve my problem though < 1473093949 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the evaluation is done in the wrong order it will change the behaviour of programs < 1473093972 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1473093987 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094003 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just rewrite a lambda interpreter myself but if I could change to lazy evaluation the existing lambdas it would be swell < 1473094045 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's gonna be a nice way to do this in C#... < 1473094050 0 :sewilton_!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lignxibetvgbrotb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094069 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically this would only affect the non-pure operators < 1473094081 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure how to fix this especially for those < 1473094095 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like just using "del", exactly as you're currently using it, ought to work. < 1473094102 0 :pdxleif-!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094107 0 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094122 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, maybe not. < 1473094124 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094127 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmm. < 1473094134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473094136 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gemzmhnsemfzgdir QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473094137 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473094139 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473094139 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473094140 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473094141 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473094141 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473094142 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473094144 0 :pdxleif-!?@? NICK :pdxleif < 1473094171 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switching to delchar printx = inputChar => x => { Console.Write(inputChar); return x; }; still only produces one a < 1473094176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094233 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what expression are you using now? < 1473094240 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you evaluating that only produces one a? < 1473094241 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :m(printx('a')); < 1473094251 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :With m = x => x(x); < 1473094282 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gyazo.com/e0bc79e0dab2a2d8303b71cf935e62fe.png < 1473094291 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would produce only one "a" even if lazy evaluation were used. < 1473094298 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it? < 1473094306 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1473094311 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :What to do < 1473094313 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094315 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473094339 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :Guest23396 < 1473094341 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m(printx('a')) would reduce to printx('a')(printx('a')). The outer printx('a') would get reduced and thus would print "a", leaving you with printx('a'). Then evaluation would finish. < 1473094354 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1473094365 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see what happens if I add an i < 1473094383 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :m(printx('a'))(i); does produce two i's < 1473094418 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :and u(u((printx('a'))))(i); does produce an infinite loop < 1473094419 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :All is well < 1473094431 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I need to do (my program)(i) by default < 1473094498 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to do a parser for the code < 1473094515 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet C# has a standard one by default < 1473094557 0 :sewilton_!?@? NICK :sewilton < 1473094632 0 :ocharles_!?@? NICK :ocharles < 1473094687 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsing this oughta be pretty easy. Consider using recursion. < 1473094726 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah shouldn't be too hard < 1473094736 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only one operation to be applied < 1473094777 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :public static LbExpression Parse(TextReader reader) { switch (reader.Read()) { case '`': LbExpression function = Parse(reader); LbExpression argument = Parse(reader); return function.Apply(reader); case ... } } < 1473094781 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473095064 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473095112 0 :polybot!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473095182 0 :mysanthrop!?@? NICK :myname < 1473095700 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473095901 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio JOIN :#esoteric < 1473096316 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far so good < 1473096322 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try a more complicated expression < 1473096365 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473096415 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :`````````````.h.e.l.l.o.,. .w.o.r.l.d.!i prints "hhee" < 1473096418 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not good < 1473096418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ````````````.h.e.l.l.o.,.: not found < 1473096478 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see the problem < 1473096561 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta find the correct regular expression for a combinator expression < 1473096785 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a regular expression if X = a is an expression and X = `XX is an expression < 1473096867 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently basic regexps do not handle nesting < 1473096869 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1473096885 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might have to do it by hand < 1473097015 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473097015 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473097535 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.operasoftware.com/press/releases/desktop/opera-releases-bork-edition < 1473097592 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello world works < 1473097594 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurray < 1473097600 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's try the Fibonacci < 1473097641 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Process is terminated due to stack overflow" < 1473097647 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1473097661 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess when the program doesn't stop it doesn't print things until the end < 1473097729 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1473097738 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u`u.a prints characters before the stack overflow < 1473097739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: u`u.a: not found < 1473097960 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just rewrite it like before as a dynamic string < 1473097968 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might avoid the stack overflows < 1473099190 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473100531 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd672f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.103.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473100687 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1473100976 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473101218 0 :cyra!~tepru@aneu.me QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473102206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2624 0x2624 < 1473102207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☤ < 1473102357 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473102428 0 :Tritonio!~tr@unaffiliated/tritonio QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473102794 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473102802 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1473102810 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473102949 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473104121 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473105408 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x262B 0x262C < 1473105409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☫☬ < 1473105441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2670 0x2671 < 1473105441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♰♱ < 1473105460 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2768 0x2775 < 1473105461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​❨❩❪❫❬❭❮❯ \ ❰❱❲❳❴❵ < 1473105509 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like HTML tags, but more confusing. < 1473105515 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2380 0x238B < 1473105516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⎀⎁⎂⎃⎄⎅⎆⎇⎈⎉⎊⎋ < 1473105557 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2729 0x2730 < 1473105557 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​✩✪✫✬✭✮✯ \ ✰ < 1473105574 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god its full of stars < 1473105591 0 :polybot!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473105598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x27AB 0x27AC < 1473105599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​➫➬ < 1473105629 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0xFFE8 0xFFEE < 1473105630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​│←↑→↓■○ < 1473105667 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0xFFFE 0xFFFE < 1473105668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​￾ < 1473106077 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☫ and ☬​ are hard to draw < 1473107105 0 :polybot!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1473107111 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :space grunts looks like a mobile game for whiever it was who did 't like the turnbased aspect of roguelikes < 1473107133 0 :polybot!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473107845 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd672f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.103.47 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1473107988 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turnbased means time to think < 1473107998 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that < 1473108064 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473108693 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473108993 0 :polybot!?@? NICK :Moonythedwarf < 1473109029 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473109033 0 :Soni!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473109077 0 :Soni!?@? NICK :APNG < 1473109230 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473109364 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473109399 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1473109402 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1473109420 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473109638 0 :ineiros_!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473109813 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473109813 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473109813 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473110415 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know way too few people that do graphical stuff < 1473110535 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1473110606 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473110875 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473111225 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473111572 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does 0xFFFE even have a definition? < 1473111594 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is an invalid Unicode character. < 1473111636 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew < 1473113368 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473113463 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473113609 0 :randomact2016!~randomact@c-71-230-191-124.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473113616 0 :randomact2016!~randomact@c-71-230-191-124.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART #esoteric : < 1473113877 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473114047 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473114872 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1473115074 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: it is invalid, but still can occur, so there is a glyph for it in my font < 1473115082 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473115092 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi wob_jonas < 1473115100 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helwob_jellonas! < 1473115143 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bank card again got physically damaged. This is the third time my bank card has had a shorter lifespan than their normal replacement time. < 1473115167 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's getting a lot of wear because I'm carrying it in my wallet all the time, but isn't that supposed to be sort of normal use for a bank card? < 1473115189 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your wallet is too small or too big < 1473115217 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you have too many cards in your wallet < 1473115238 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: anyone know of a IRC bot that can preform the Riemann function? < 1473115260 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time it's not around the chip where it torn, but instead there's a tear starting from the short side of the card you hold in your hand when you insert it, on the side of the magnetic strip. < 1473115311 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: maybe, or more likely too much cash and tickest and other non-card items, or the wallet is getting pulled tense and curved in my pocket < 1473115356 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The usual advice is to not put your bank card (or other fragile items like a calculator or mobile phone) in your back pocket, but I never do that! I always have it in my front jeans pocket (or rarely in a bag). < 1473115385 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473115444 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: we have some reasonably programmable bots, so presumably you can upload a short program that computes it < 1473115464 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any of them have node.js? < 1473115472 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably find a ready-made implementation of it in some library < 1473115483 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I don't do node.js < 1473115485 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already have. < 1473115487 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` node < 1473115488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: node: command not found < 1473115492 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1473115508 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: you mean the Riemann zeta function, right? < 1473115513 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1473115534 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, leme check < 1473115571 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Riemann zeta: http://dlmf.nist.gov/25.2 < 1473115646 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Riemann(f, a, b, n, sampler) < 1473115646 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calculates the Riemann sum for a one-variable function f on the interval [a,b] with n equally-spaced divisons. If sampler is given, that function will be used to calculate which value to sample on each subinterval; otherwise, the left endpoint will be used. < 1473115648 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1473115650 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1473115698 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: that's not the Riemann zeta, that's quadrature (approximating a Riemann integral) in one dimension < 1473115701 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally different thing < 1473115714 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1473115720 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just searched by name. < 1473115722 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::L < 1473115747 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels stupid now < 1473115759 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: ok, so what do you actually want? < 1473115769 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1473115778 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever put anything in the back pocket of my jeans. how would I sit? < 1473115835 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Dungeons&Dragons game I managed to summon a grandfather clock into a prison cell and when it chimed the guards game down and wondered how it got there. < 1473115838 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I put a key there, and sometimes plastic bags. never bigger stuff. < 1473115866 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is it wise to alert your guards that you can do magic? < 1473115896 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473115949 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I guess they probably already knew so it doesn't matter < 1473115965 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a anti-magic field active, but the book that summoned the clock somehow overcomes that anti-magic, and so they were unable to unsummon it. < 1473116012 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is that plain arcane magic, or something different? < 1473116031 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473116034 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dwdwfqfllnkkshmz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pops in to glimpse at the backlog and sees an out of context «is it wise to alert your guards that you can do magic?», zgrep now imagines wob_jonas locked in a castle room, with guards outside guarding him < 1473116036 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how the book works. I just wrote "clock" and there it was. < 1473116107 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :summon a pair of magic garden clippers that can cut through steel < 1473116108 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473116157 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, I think you do psionic magic, not arcane, right? < 1473116170 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh! just wrote "clock"? is that like Scribblenauts? < 1473116180 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: My character can do both, but I don't know how this book works. < 1473116184 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like it wob_jonas < 1473116200 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they tested whether it's an illusion? < 1473116212 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it can make a teleporter? and that ^ < 1473116216 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as far as I know < 1473116229 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason for the clock was to time the expiration of a spell I had set up elsewhere. The spell created a large block and was meant to make noise by the cups sitting on top of it falling down once the spell expires (causing the block to disappear), to wake us up, but we were put in jail instead. < 1473116276 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I trick the guards in going to the hotel just before it would expire, so they would hear the noise, enter the room and try to dispel the magic cups but they can't because it isn't magic. They might think therefore that we have stronger magic than they have because they can't dispel our magic. < 1473116331 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :may work, but couldnt they detect it? < 1473116357 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is the clock set to the right time for that? or do you have some way to find out what time it is, from a prison cell? < 1473116377 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That's what I used the clock for; to determine what time it was. < 1473116398 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could just ask the guards < 1473116409 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: They refused to answer. < 1473116422 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, but did the clock arrive set to the right time and wound up? < 1473116457 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; it was early enough that I still knew what time it was, and it was wound up, too. < 1473116548 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might detect a dim aura if they tried, but not any stronger aura because there isn't actually any magic in effect in the hotel room (it has already expired), and in any case the cups themselves are not magical. < 1473116771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the guards familiar with the tale of the head of Vecna? < 1473116900 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they are or not < 1473117028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473117041 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1473117127 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pedantic level 1: Replace all occurrences of pi with tau/2 (unless it's 2pi, in which case you just use tau) < 1473117152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pedantic level 2: pi and tau are both acceptable, but replace all occurrences of 2 with tau/pi < 1473117184 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you mean Pendantic level tau / pi ? < 1473117190 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1473117195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: ...I am a failure. < 1473117216 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linguistic Prank Idea: Start interpreting numbers written in standard digital fashion as an abjad < 1473117235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing pedantic about using 2pi instead of pi < 1473117241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just preference. < 1473117256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But using 'tau' exclusively I mean < 1473117266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a tiny bit pedantic < 1473117277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not pedantic. < 1473117281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little bit < 1473117286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pedantic is the sort of thing I'm being right now. < 1473117300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, using tau/2 even when you JUST want pi < 1473117302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...touche < 1473117304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's nothing incorrect about pi. < 1473117305 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some programs I wrote do use tau but not pi < 1473117313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or even better, an ultra-abjad, in which vowels aren't just inferred; which specific vowel sound is used is unnecessary) < 1473117341 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1473117373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a fan of the middle camp, in which Pi and Tau are both acceptable. I would call it a Golden Mean Fallacy, but we're discussing pi(/tau), not any other irrational numbers < 1473117377 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it is correct there is nothing incorrect about pi, but tau seems to be work better in many cases; but it isn't (just) because of circles, anyways. < 1473117398 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider both acceptable, but find tau more useful in more cases than pi. < 1473117452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, exactly < 1473117476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not pedantry, yo < 1473117489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should start using tau (together with pi) without any explanation at the beginning (so no tau = 2pi disambiguation), so people just have to start getting used to it < 1473117495 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: use pi / pi t orepresent 1. < 1473117497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It is if you systematically refuse to use pi < 1473117511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not pedantry. Just a preference. < 1473117529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: That's level 3, and you have to use it when you would otherwise just drop it to imply a coefficient of 1 < 1473117534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I systematically refuse to eat bell peppers, it's not pedantry to not eat bell peppers. < 1473117560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("The parent quadratic function is y = pi/pix^2+0x+0") < 1473117678 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: here is a derivative for that: (d)/(dx)(π/(π x^2)+0 x+0) = -2/x^3\ < 1473117686 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\\/ / < 1473117707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numeric Abjad: 0 [z], 1 [w], 2 [t], 3 [θ], 4 [f], 5 [k], 6 [s], 7 [j], 8 [p], 9 [n] < 1473117741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Pedantry was the wrong word, but I couldn't think of anything better < 1473117755 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473117813 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no [r]? < 1473117827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Where would the [r] be? < 1473117867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Also, [r] would lead to r-colored vowels, which would make things more confusing < 1473117873 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: dunno, anywhere so you get a saner set of consonants. < 1473117898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(between the sounds you can put any monopthong you like (or none, if you like); a decimal point is represented by a [b]) < 1473117943 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473117947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, 1 should be [g] because [w] can be a difficult sound sometimes < 1473117957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Why is this system insane? < 1473117972 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not insane, but [r] is common and useful < 1473118003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah, but [r] leads to r-coloring, which makes things harder to understand. I guess 0 could be [r]? < 1473118016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 0 is [r] < 1473118045 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a _esoteric_ set of constants hppavilion[1] (; < 1473118122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: (1) "an _esoteric_" (2) That winky face is backwards; while (: is acceptable (if strange), (; is never allowed, only ;) (3) Many of them were chosen based on their initial sound in English to make it easier for English speakers (one of the larger groups) to understand < 1473118208 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, English are not abjad. < 1473118211 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i always wink my _right_ eye < 1473118269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, but if I try to make the numbers have vowels, I lead to issues with numbers that don't contain any < 1473118292 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1473118304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if the even digits are vowels and the odds are consonants, then you have trouble pronouncing 573597335 < 1473118334 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can understand you < 1473118366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was for anyone else reading (also, I'd already started typing and I don't like aborting messages) < 1473118401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is pro-life, but only for relatively short Unicode strings used in text-only chat < 1473118549 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could take a language with a somewhat strict syllable structure, and have every two consecutive digits be pronounced as a syllable, or even some more complicated system < 1473118609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did have an idea like that too; treat even positions as vowels and odd positions as consonants; that isn't quite same but it is a similar thing. < 1473118612 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473118640 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's even such a system, though not for generating any word, but as a system to read out numbers in a terse way < 1473118643 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to find it < 1473118686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I could, I suppose, though odd numbers complicate a bit (even though the solution is quite obvious) < 1473118739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every digit has a consonant sound and a vowel; you make these in sequence, in odd-length strings the remaining symbol is put at the end of the last syllable < 1473118747 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you didn't want the system workable by humans, then you'd just use arithmetical coding or some sort to generate almost exactly every reasonable pronunciation in a reasonable rate. < 1473118747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you have to memorize twice as many sounds < 1473118766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abjad is simpler though < 1473118774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The abjad system yes is simpler and it does work too. < 1473118864 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it an abjad then, with the ten sounds being some permutations of [p m t d n k v z S r] ? < 1473118965 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think hppavilion[1]'s idea to omit [r] does make some sense, due to r-colour-vowels; it would be too difficult including all sound anyways < 1473118980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellob_jonas < 1473118991 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1473119026 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could use syllables such that each two digits encode a syllable consisting of a consonant or consonant cluster from a set of 20 and a vowel from a set of 5. < 1473119083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: zzo38: If I do include [r], it has to be as 0 as that seems to be the only logical place for an r-colored vowel to exist < 1473119095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system < 1473119104 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473119128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I suppose I could, to make an abugida < 1473119141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think ultra-abjad is the best < 1473119149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it'd most likely slowly evolve into an abjad) < 1473119215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now to test < 1473119244 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you use an escape digit so you encode 19 consonant clusters with 1, 2, ..., 9, 00, 01, ..., 09 respectively, such that the clusters you'd rather avoid at initial position get the codes staring by a zero? < 1473119252 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473119256 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, that's stupi < 1473119261 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget that < 1473119286 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, you could use an escape digit somehwo < 1473119299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(final digits are allowed to drop the subsequent vowel) < 1473119330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reference: http://pastebin.com/QE4pPHu3 < 1473119336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin < 1473119361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fotar < 1473119367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fot < 1473119379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read those back to me from the lookup) < 1473119418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I should allow multiple similar sounds for each- so [t] and [d] are the same) < 1473119427 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1473119446 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473119548 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473119610 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473119929 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, updated < 1473119971 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes in a Dungeons&Dragons game, the duration of a spell can be much more important than the spell itself. < 1473119986 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds