< 1474070629 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, there's a book (Bobaljik (2012), Universals in comparative morphology: suppletion, superlatives, and the structure or words) which (according to this quotation) claims that "no language has a synthetic comparative of inferiority", calling that the "lesslessness" generalization. < 1474070639 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This generalization is empirically the strongest of all the generalizations considered in this book. In none of the more than 300 languages examined for this study did anything remotely resembling a counterexample appear." < 1474070665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. sorry hppavilion[1] :P < 1474070673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE UNIVERSE IS AGAINST YoU < 1474070677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*O < 1474070721 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474070756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :([engage reductio ad absurdum] While we're at it, we also need notations for: AM(X) = x; GM(X) = x; HM(X) = x; QM(X) = x. For all the inflections for f(X) = x, we need variants that replace = with >, <, ≤, ≥, ≪, ≫, ≠, ≈, ≉, ≡, :=, and ≟, and to express when x is within various deviations (including standard deviation, mean absolute deviation, and others) of f(X)) < 1474070795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This includes things such as x ≪ min(X) < 1474070843 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You don't have an app that can open this file (.c). Try searching Google Play for one that can. [cancel] [search]" what the actual fuck < 1474070859 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the 70s, they didn't have problems to open fucking plain text ascii files < 1474070859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Which actual fuck in particular? < 1474070861 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i do < 1474070869 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my fucking phone < 1474070871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: What platform are you on? < 1474070872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1474070883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's probably because phones aren't meant for code < 1474070899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, if you have a plain ascii editor at all you can probably coerce your phone to open the .c with that) < 1474070929 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to install an editor for plain text files < 1474070931 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a phone < 1474070937 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can send sms and email < 1474070942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're living in the lowest common denominator. < 1474070948 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already has plenty of text editing features < 1474070948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I forgot median(X) = x and mode(X) = x (and variants for =) < 1474071052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to suggest harmonic mean but is that HM above < 1474071065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wasn't getting that notation at the time
< 1474071172 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your favorite text editor for android? < 1474071229 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know which features i need but i'd appreciate monospaced fonts < 1474071270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention WAM(X), TruncM(X), MR(X), TriM(X), etc < 1474071275 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474071281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've seen other weird ones like geometric-harmonic mean < 1474071284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1474071347 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474071405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've seen other weird ones like geometric-harmonic mean which is probably distinct from harmonic-geometric mean for some reason) < 1474071463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sword of Legend {3} Legendary Artifact - Equipment ;; Equipped creature gets +1/+1 and is legendary. ;; {2}, {T}: Attach ~ to target legendary creature. That creature gains bands with other legendary creatures until end of turn. Activate this ability only if there are no other permanents with the same name as that creature. ;; Equip {2} < 1474072025 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.xgouchet.texteditor 1. can edit text 2. ad free < 1474072029 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :best text editor < 1474072038 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474072071 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474072177 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my standards for text editors quality are a lot lower on phones < 1474072178 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used one, but I forgot its name. I don't think I could give a very informative recommendation based on a sample size of N=1 anyway. < 1474072194 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just install Emacs on it. < 1474072209 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know how to emacs on desktop < 1474072217 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs "If Emacs segfaults try changing font size. This is going to be fixed." The description starts well. < 1474072223 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1474072343 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a bunch of vims < 1474072499 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah whatever, i'll keep the one i just installed < 1474072521 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not gonna program on this thing anyway < 1474072552 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: technically, hungarian has four levels for adjective inflection, but the fourth is very rare < 1474072553 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474072567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, what's that? < 1474072620 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474072650 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the fourth uses the circumfix "legesleg-...-bb" and has similar meaning as the superlative (which uses the circumfix "leg-...-bb") but used when you are very emphatic about the claim < 1474072716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :legeslegjóbb inflection < 1474072730 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's spelled "legeslegjobb" < 1474072737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1474072780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any bulgarians here? < 1474072842 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's so rare that in primary school classes they usually just teach students that there are three degrees of adjectives, not four < 1474073671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. A search box on a website that doesn't let me search for a list of words if the whole thing is more than 20 characters long. Crazy stuff. More words or longer words just make searches easier for the server, and 20 characters is a very low limit in practice. < 1474073781 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :more words make it easier if you search for a and b and c and d < 1474073797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it allows you to list words. in theory. < 1474073934 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, this search form is http://www.munkaugyiforum.hu/kereses < 1474074024 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is otherwise not a bad webpage really\ < 1474074050 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :their english sucks < 1474074204 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474074707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, there is a holiday called "Satan Worship Day", but it's always on the fifth Monday in November < 1474074744 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if editing it in the inspector or whatever will make it accept more than twenty. < 1474074760 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: uh? november can have 5 mondays < 1474074777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I'm not sure it can... < 1474074780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me recalculate < 1474074783 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious < 1474074788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually am < 1474074795 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lern2math < 1474074813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I did, but then I lernd2program and am now constantly vigilant for off-by-one errors < 1474074817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off-by-2 error < 1474074818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off-by-2 error? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474074824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off-by-two error < 1474074825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off-by-two error? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474074847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom two error < 1474074848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1474074854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 2 error < 1474074855 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1474074858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474074874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom off?by < 1474074875 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by two//An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. < 1474074876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think "That's not wise" is the empty set of wisdom results < 1474074883 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: november 2015 had 5 mondays < 1474074886 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err hppavilion[1] < 1474074886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i know, fizzie just added that < 1474074887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Nov 1 is Monday (best-case scenario), then 7 days later (Nov 8) is monday < 1474074906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 is monday 3, 22 is monday 4, and... 29 is monday 5 < 1474074907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cal 11 2015 < 1474074908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ November 2015 \ Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa \ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 \ 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 \ 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 \ 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 \ 29 30 < 1474074916 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474074918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's the 6th Monday then. There. < 1474074934 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even interesting < 1474074947 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't display so well on HackEgo; you can execute cal on your own computer though (if you have Linux, BSD, or Macintosh) < 1474074960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In other news, in the BCS for 5th Monday, Satan Day is my birthday) < 1474074963 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you have Windows then it is more difficult) < 1474075092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have windows and it wasn't difficult at all < 1474075093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well windows has its own calendar program < 1474075124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay for Cygwin and MinGW) < 1474075182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a bit clicky getting to nov 2015 though. < 1474075192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on first try. < 1474075272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I'm generally against PC, but I honestly don't know what I think about "Happy holidays" and "Season's greetings". Not just that I don't dislike them for being too PC, but really I honestly prefer them )
< 1474075316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i cannot get to before 1917. < 1474075353 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I myself don't care and hope they don't all say same things. However, "Season's greetings" isn't the words that makes much sense to me in such context, I think. < 1474075383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or after 2116. < 1474075420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You know what? "Happy Holidays" is better. It's just better.) < 1474075427 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :posix cal can go up to 9999 < 1474075479 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, it is better than seaon greetings, at least. < 1474075524 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnu cal can go up to 2147483646 < 1474075538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally asked cal for year 11, and it gave me it < 1474075567 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it can do that. < 1474075582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In contexts where you can assume a predominantly Christian audience- e.g. in an actual Church- "Merry Christmas" seems appropriate, but the same way Jews can say... whatever Jews say on their Winter Solstice Holiday in Jewy contexts and Muslims can say their whatever (is it Rashashama[sp] around then?) in Muslimy contexts) < 1474075599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Merry Holiday" is always fun) < 1474075622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, Xmas is stupid. Clearly we should use Ksmas.) < 1474075746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Xmas" is an abbreviation for "Christmas"; use it when you are low on space to write the letters. The "X" is an old abbreviation for "Christ". < 1474075764 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474075800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this other cal is from util-linux goes up to cal 12 2147483646 < 1474075806 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "Merry Christmas" is OK; it isn't only Christian anymore, anywys. Is good if you are Christian or not. And then, other is Yule, which is the proper Winter Solstice holiday; Christmas is a few days later. It is still good. < 1474075807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+and < 1474075832 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :December 25 (Christmas Day) is a national holiday in Canada, not just a religious holiday, anyways. < 1474075841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose Antichrist day would be around the summer solstice...) < 1474075845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showHex 2147483646 "" < 1474075847 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "7ffffffe" < 1474075869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, we all know where the X came from. < 1474075896 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, if there is such things as "Antichrist day" which I don't think so < 1474075929 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, you could make it up) < 1474076101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Wait, right, it's not "Antichrist day"; it's "Antichristblakmas" < 1474076199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't remember muslims having a specific winter holiday. the muslim calendar isn't solar so the main events shift around the year. however some will celebrate ne[wv]r[ou]z around spring equinox (it's not really a muslim holiday). < 1474076238 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.livecoding.tv/ < 1474076253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevruz/Nevroz/Newruz/Newroz < 1474076494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i missed several spellings < 1474076535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Merriam-Webster (2006) recognizes only the spelling "Nauruz" (and a contestant in the final session of the 2006 Scripps National Spelling Bee in the United States, Allion Salvador, was disqualified on that basis)." < 1474076543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1474076566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading this on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowruz hth < 1474076622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So probably n[ae][uvw]r[ou][zs]? (the [zs] is just a guess because, let's be honest, it's definitely an option) < 1474076680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...woooow. Someone was disqualified in the Scripps National Spelling Bee for spelling "Nauruz" wrong. Because the spelling they used was different < 1474076688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling Bees are a stupid competition. < 1474076716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: *cough* < 1474076763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's a longer list of spellings in the infobox. < 1474076982 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: If Antichrist Day is around the summer solstice, than Midsummer (or the Feast of Saint John) is Antichrist Day. < 1474076989 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, Saint John is the Antichrist! < 1474077032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad you sorted that out < 1474077069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i the antichrist < 1474077128 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you John? < 1474077143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No, Antichristblakmas is the /birth/ of the antichrist in the year 1 AHN < 1474077188 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :St John's feast day celebrates his birth. < 1474077198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to do with Saint John (whose feast is on 27 december) < 1474077221 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. St John the Baptist's feast day. < 1474077231 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's be specific. < 1474077312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually on June 25, which is for Presentation of the Augsburg Confession < 1474077331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, it is in the One True Denomination, which is Lutheranism) < 1474077422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so according to Lutheranism, Antichristblakmas coincides with the commemoration of their founding... OH MY GOD LUTHERANS ARE SATANISTS < 1474077430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cheers* < 1474078699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is a moon of a dwarf planet considered a dwarf moon?) < 1474078963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What do you think of CA Labor Code §2870? < 1474078967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. good huh < 1474080132 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474080597 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when certain companies go "yeah, but we're in literally every business so fuck you" < 1474081020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474081142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certain companies. < 1474081156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But imagine that in other states you don't even get that? < 1474083674 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474084171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474084514 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474084603 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474084738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has 538 ever managed to influence itself? < 1474084783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474084832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it predicts that a candidate everyone hates- let's call him Rumpt- has a 40% chance of winning. Someone shares it, all the people who are against Rumpt and in favor of a marginally less objectionable candidate- let's call her (as she could be the first female president) "Billary"- freak out and resolve to vote when they weren't planning on it < 1474084848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They participate in polls, thus changing 538's value < 1474084878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poles usually can't vote in us elections < 1474084884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're polish-american, of course < 1474084933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even they are discriminated against < 1474084936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to pay the pole tax < 1474084942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, the poles are being participated /in/, not voting themselves < 1474084968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Pole taxes are only for Alaskans and people born in may < 1474084987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to do with Poll Land < 1474085198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lo, have I outpunned even the great shachaf emself? < 1474085511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is boily when you need him. < 1474085618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good first sentence in today's wikipedia featured article blurb < 1474085702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the first sentence in today's featured esolang blurb < 1474085723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit stale < 1474085768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was that famous art forger? < 1474085797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, he forged text maybe? < 1474085842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ireland? < 1474085866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one whose forgeries were so famous that they were in demand, so he forged his own forgeries to sell them. < 1474085877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of. < 1474085961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_Shakespeare_forgeries < 1474086051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one forgerer i remember reading about is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_van_Meegeren < 1474086401 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgerer? < 1474086410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one who does forgery, i guess < 1474086531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-er < 1474086552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one twh < 1474086563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idts < 1474086564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it would be unambiguous if you wrote -re hth < 1474086569 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+n < 1474086571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading my school & school district handbook < 1474086581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and then you would eeven teach people about adjunctions < 1474086585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the section on what you can't discriminate against, it doesn't mention gender identity < 1474086591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you pondering what I'm pondering? < 1474086607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fortunately. < 1474086618 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474086618 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Nope, I'm just becoming grumpy. < 1474086625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh < 1474086650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm pondering locating the Superintendent's email and sending them a polite notification that they might want to fix that < 1474086667 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! Reasonable. < 1474086681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is gender in the list < 1474086701 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not work, but a polite email is likely to effect change with minimal fuss. Unless they're transphobic, which is not implausible. < 1474086706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make it identity alone and be done with it. < 1474086753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is a transphobic someone who is born without phobias but wants to change it... ) < 1474086771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something insane is going down on reddit < 1474086791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so nothing out of the ordinary? < 1474086812 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main subreddit for the trump campaign was compromised to some sort of monetary scam < 1474086837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1474086857 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when people reacted badly, the mods started banning people and deleting posts that talked about it < 1474086869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would you care about reddit < 1474086873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the mods? < 1474086881 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them at least < 1474086900 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they unmodded at least 50 people to prevent them from stopping it < 1474087078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very interesting to observe a popular revolt like this < 1474087214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the oldest mod has ultimate power unless admins intervene, which they almost never do last i heard < 1474087255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if this blows up _enough_, they might have to reconsider that. < 1474087306 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1474087306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember replacing the disappeared mod of /r/physics took ages. < 1474087325 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474087327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it had only one) < 1474087494 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/535jkk/about_what_happened_tonight/ <- this is the damage control post after they removed the disaster posts < 1474087753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so just extremely bad judgement, not a hostile takeover. whatever. < 1474087819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I dunno. the site they were promoting: www.nimbleamerica.com looks shady as hell < 1474087858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks to me like a hostile takeover but for monetary rather than political gain < 1474087863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would of course be funny if the top mods of that subreddit started it just to troll everyone < 1474087884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1474087913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it = the subreddit) < 1474087929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the degree of crazy crap on reddit is why I stopped posting on any subreddits and relurked < 1474088003 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow the reddit system seems wired to produce hilarious, trainwreck drama < 1474088043 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, it gives a lot of people little fiefdoms with near-absolute power within. < 1474088064 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That not *every* subreddit is a trainwreck is a testament to the capability of humans to be good. < 1474088093 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That some subreddits are spectacular trainwrecks, of course, is just evidence that "capable" does not imply "will". < 1474088099 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehe < 1474088201 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand one of the reasons I still lurk is in hope of seeing crazy trainwreck drama < 1474088217 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some good comes of the evil < 1474088729 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drama is funny when you're not at all involved < 1474089175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: They have a doctorate, so she probably isn't an asshole < 1474089226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It is, but just "gender", no mention of whether it conforms (so you could, for example, harass them by making a point of treating them as masculine- not just like a slip-of-the-tongue thing, but REALLY making a point out of it) < 1474089239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's surprisingly reasonable as far as things-done-by-me go < 1474089264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask conal For computing [x^i | i <- [0..n]] (which you used for DFT), can you do better than O(n) work and O(log n) depth using repeated squaring? < 1474089264 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474089382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conforms to what < 1474089678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Basically, the cis-trans dichotomy < 1474089767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cis is "is gender G outside and says they're gender G", trans is "is gender G outside but says's they're gender H" < 1474089795 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because "cis-" is the opposite of "trans-". < 1474089959 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cis literally means, on this side of < 1474090024 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, the province of Gallia in roman empire was divided into cisalpine gaul, on the same side of the alps as italy, and transalpine gaul, on the opposite side < 1474090159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so transgender would mean that someone's gender is on the opposite side from their sex < 1474090313 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happen if someone says they are actually more than one gender or not at all? < 1474090323 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another example is cis and trans isomers of chemicals like dichloroethene < 1474090395 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The first would be something non-binary or gender fluid, the latter is agender. < 1474090416 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or bigender or pangender for the first... < 1474091614 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fovygzfnsgdpuqao JOIN :#esoteric < 1474091667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think someone who identifies as agender would be classified as transgender, but in the flimsy sense, because their gender is like an atheist's religion < 1474091720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New universally-acceptable greeting: "Salutations, fellow lifeform" < 1474091777 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474091966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DARE YOU CALL ME ALIVE < 1474091975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS < 1474092749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Zombies count as a lifeform < 1474092804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're under the continent "Athanata" < 1474092819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(below which is empires AKA domains, then kingdoms and it's Katy Perry from there) < 1474093753 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474093781 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:3d9a:df45:e47c:f2b4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474095019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, one of the recently captured FBI most wanteds had the same birthday as me < 1474095426 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474095643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I know somebody for whom http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-04-02 would be perfectly reasonable) < 1474095881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I wonder if there's a charity that I can donate to that exists for the soul purpose of rechariting my money to another charity so I don't have to figure out what it is )
< 1474095889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/soul/sole/ < 1474095944 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimal Charity* (donations to Optimal Charity are inherently suboptimal, we can only guarantee optimality given the assumption you give money to us instead of our donation targets directly) < 1474096435 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474097059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm honestly curious if https://xkcd.com/545/ has ever been tried < 1474097065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any bored millionaires? < 1474097388 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fovygzfnsgdpuqao QUIT : < 1474097525 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474097657 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474098036 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474098442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who milks the milkman" -- Randall Munroe < 1474098563 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1474098889 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474099090 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, beautiful. '[1050080.761768] Read-error on swap-device (254:1:3016)' < 1474099142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Do astronauts have to be paid minimum wage for a 24/7 work week? )
< 1474099423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact, they would have to be paid minimum wage for 40 of those hours, PLUS 1.5* minimum wage for each additional hour) < 1474100230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CaC again. No important data was at risk at any time.) < 1474100573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading a subpoena. < 1474100580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one to google < 1474100626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that "And" and "Or" don't mean "And" and "Or" every time; they are treated, in each instance, either disjunctively or conjunctively in such a way that creates the broadest request possible < 1474101637 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think astronauts are probably entitled to more given their substantial skills and their dangerous workplace. < 1474101651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SUMMON ENTROPY < 1474101655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well yeah, that too < 1474101664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if, like, it was Ted the Shitty Astronaut < 1474101674 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKFuXETZUsI so coooooool < 1474101681 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it i love it i can't wait < 1474101693 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474101694 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I get most of my Kerbals from rescue missions < 1474101721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: And how much are they paid? < 1474101740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you asked your Kerbal lawyers about the laws of the USK? < 1474101770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weird how there are no other Kerbals on the entirety of the pla- oh god. Is this why you're trying to get to space? To escape a dying world?) < 1474101886 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: the nimble america subreddit was hacked and destroyed in a counterattack < 1474101948 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod/user warfare continues to rage < 1474102461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly IS nimble america? < 1474102475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I wonder how long it is until we have computers that can write novels )
< 1474102607 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474102779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard somebody at school today talking about how the new "iPhones" are blowing up while charging < 1474102782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wept for humanity < 1474102911 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474102983 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was samsung? < 1474103055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah < 1474103060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That's why I wept < 1474103073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they don't realize that 80% of smartphones aren't iPhones < 1474103119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474103566 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], they could just be mixed up < 1474103614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You don't seem to understand the stupidity of the people around me < 1474103621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I tried to explain and he ignored me) < 1474103737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 30 years, Trump speeches will be mandatory viewing in college classrooms < 1474103762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, classes about psychiatry, during the day when they talk about narcissism < 1474104139 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474104302 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474104317 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474104669 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will george w bush become recognized as the historic first he was < 1474104689 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first president to be mentally impaired < 1474105427 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474105727 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474107156 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474107545 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474107603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can centaurs be made with other animals? < 1474107605 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474107628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: No, we had earlier presidents, but they usually lost it after < 1474107640 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how furry are you today? < 1474107646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Not particularly < 1474107655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just heard Stephen Colbert say something funny about giraffes < 1474107664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't looked at any furry porn all day...) < 1474107675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Zebrataurs would, of course, have to be a thing. They probably are already.) < 1474107719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest extant relative to the Centaur is the Bonobotaur < 1474107743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giraffes are really just Snaketaurs < 1474107757 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :several thousands results for zebrataur on google < 1474109161 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:d011:f6d3:a774:286d JOIN :#esoteric < 1474110081 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474110280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474113132 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:d011:f6d3:a774:286d QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1474113187 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474114598 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474115973 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474118687 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474119252 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474119315 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474119915 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474120023 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474120629 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474121478 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474123125 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474124696 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474125005 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474126864 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474127878 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128349 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128780 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128938 0 :vague_!~vague@97-81-163-25.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128961 0 :vague_!~vague@97-81-163-25.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com PART #esoteric : < 1474129782 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474129985 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474130148 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474130293 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474132088 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? "Target opponent chooses artifact, creature, enchantment, instant, land, or sorcery. Search your library for a card of that type, reveal it, put it into your hand, and then shuffle your library." < 1474132301 0 :petsu!~ru@2400:6180:0:d0::383:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474134499 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474134649 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474135165 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474135590 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474136010 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474137449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sounds interesting. < 1474137475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much would it cost? < 1474137633 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What amount would you think? < 1474137984 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474138429 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474140697 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card I made up called "Zeux Agem" now has "bands with other creatures that have flying and power less than 3". < 1474141085 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474143666 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474143689 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474144568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mega zeux < 1474146481 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have basic brewing in my df-like \o/ < 1474146874 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:3d9a:df45:e47c:f2b4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474146916 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:4979:72e8:3771:d384 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474146933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474147189 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:4979:72e8:3771:d384 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474147208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps the word "Schadenfreude"- which is originally the German word for pleasure at other people's misfortune ("harm-joy") but has since been adopted into fringe English- should be englicized in spelling to make it less confusing for native english speakers) < 1474147365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("inenvy"- inverse envy- would also be an acceptable adaptation that doesn't require remembering how to German it) < 1474147654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474147801 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474147823 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a failing swap device... ouch. did you reboot and discontinue using it for swap? < 1474147852 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: also, what sort of device is it? spinning hard disk, solid state disk, network? < 1474149711 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474150207 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474150375 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I'm about 87% sure that was CloudAtCost hardware at work again. < 1474150461 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The esolangs.org VPS has stopped doing those "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 21s" messages, maybe that's why HackEgo has anecdotally felt a bit speedier recently. < 1474150496 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, CaC was even confirmed, I missed that line.) < 1474150823 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's CloudAtCost? < 1474150955 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A VPS provider with a one-time-fee model. < 1474150956 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What material of oven mitts (gloves for heat insulation) do you use? Fabric, silicone, or dragon skin? < 1474150980 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fabric; somehow I just can't trust silicone. < 1474151055 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently use silicone ones, but I'm considering to buying ordinary fabric ones. < 1474151071 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use fabric oven mitts because that works good and it is what I have. < 1474151086 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::I wrote how I think a very simple API to make JavaScript addon in C might ought to be: http://sprunge.us/ZXPA Hopefully with help it can be made up in a reasonable way. Do you like this? < 1474151090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no oven mitts, but I should. < 1474151102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typically use some sort of fabric as a substitute, though. < 1474151108 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474151142 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sitting here at the Roguelike Celebration (200 person conference in San Francisco) and am inspired to get esolang folks and code golfers together for a conference < 1474151167 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparr: a roguelike celebration? sounds nice < 1474151180 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's fun. roguelike devs and designers, lots of players < 1474151181 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Until you have to start eating corpses to stay in character. < 1474151202 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparr: how would that work? somehow more than half of the esolang people are in Europe < 1474151215 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can eat vegetarian corpses, that is, dead plants < 1474151224 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well, if it worked, maybe there could be other such events around the world. that's a big goal, though < 1474151229 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cooked corpses < 1474151240 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all starts with 50 people getting together somewhere for the first time < 1474151262 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we've managed to get even 5 people on this channel together at any one time. < 1474151269 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to fix that :) < 1474151279 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are more esolang users at this roguelike conference than anywhere else I've been < 1474151299 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met someone who used my language, and found it without having known me before! (huge ego boost) < 1474151342 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa once hosted an esolang seminar at their university, I think. (I may be mixing up who it was.) < 1474151342 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would hope to write a roguelike game in JavaScript. I can write the terminal interfacing library and possibly involving to call stty as an external program to make the terminal acting properly for this purpose. Possibly even multi-players mode can be added on to < 1474151432 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing the serialization is the other thing to do, but I think I have the reasonable ideas about how to do that. < 1474151611 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the hard part of roguelike is the game design (figuring out the rules so that you get a good game) and interface design < 1474151739 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes, that is some of it too, and much of that stuff I have not thought of yet. I can think of much of the user interface stuff already though; actually even to have a configuration file in JavaScript that can be used to customize the user interface. < 1474151787 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Using such scripts can be used to add macros, to filter messages, etc.) < 1474151869 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474152329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1474152334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do this precalc homework < 1474152340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have integrity < 1474152357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It wants me to look at the graph and guess what x the extrema are at) < 1474152391 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474152501 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474152771 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474152906 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God I hate it when people invent punctuation, copyright it, and say it's for general use < 1474152912 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was for general use, it wouldn't be copyrighted < 1474152919 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't have to pay to write < 1474152980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474153044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with you; to copyright punctuation doesn't make sense. < 1474153090 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About this still I am unsure what mana cost or type: "Target opponent chooses artifact, creature, enchantment, instant, land, or sorcery. Search your library for a card of that type, reveal it, put it into your hand, and then shuffle your library." Do you have any better ideas perhaps? < 1474153195 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474153533 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474153611 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it omit planeswalker for a reason? < 1474153657 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's so you don't have to build a deck that even has a planeswalker that helps your combo. it's hard enough with those six types. < 1474153660 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1474153664 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see why it omits scheme and plane and vanguard and conspiracy, though < 1474153669 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is for the reason wob_jonas mentioned. < 1474153671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it would be even worse with tribal) < 1474153690 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think zzo38's ability would work best as a triggered ability on a creature or enchantment < 1474153702 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I place it on a sorcery, it's too weak even at B (which is the correct color) < 1474153706 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: like a magpie? I dunno < 1474153804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, why is B the correct color? isn't this a blue ability like that of Gifts Ungiven? < 1474153835 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did think of another thing too; if it could have a kicker that allows you to reject your opponent's first choice and force them to pick a different type instead; it only works once though. < 1474153863 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: gifts ungiven is weird, you can make a case for basically anything to be U < 1474153874 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but arguably gifts ungiven is B too < 1474153893 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well ok, it's not really out of place in black either < 1474153899 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(compare to fact or fiction, which is definitely blue) < 1474153908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't really like this ability at all, anywhere. it needs to be rethought. < 1474153988 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another alternative to a triggered ability would be an activated ability. < 1474154004 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was a tap ability that might work < 1474154020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spammable abilities that dig through your library tend to be hard to balance though < 1474154036 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww no. that would cause you to search and shuffle every turn, or more often. can't be enjoyable. < 1474154044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; its cost can have other stuff too though other than just tap < 1474154092 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I just meant including tap, not exclusively tap < 1474154093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, mana, discarding, sacrificing, removing counters, etc < 1474154126 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I just realised that following the color pie rules it's also legal in green (although that wouldn't be most people's first choice) < 1474154135 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: even so. if you use an activated ability, unless it's a sacrifice this or when this dies ability, it will likely cause the ability to be used repeatedly. a magpie trigger (whenever this deals combat damage to an opponent) would be better. < 1474154143 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :green can search for a creature or land (or subset of that), and the opponent can always choose to make it search for that rather than something else < 1474154151 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the ability's strictly worse than something green can do < 1474154161 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of the magpie trigger is that it's more interactive, most decks the opponent plays will have a way to fight it. < 1474154220 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, how easily can green search for an arbitrary creature (as opposed to some more restricted set)? < 1474154232 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and especially for a creature and land < 1474154238 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other modification to what I wrote also might be done, maybe < 1474154251 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's fairly /expensive/ to search for a creature unrestricted, but not out of pie < 1474154256 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tooth and nail is the most dramatic example < 1474154287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not as expensive as tooth and nail I think < 1474154321 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tooth and nail is expensive because it can both search and piper expensive creatures, and those two together are very dangerous < 1474154340 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elder" is an irregular form of "Older" < 1474154342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :green used to have the piper ability back when expensive creatures without mana costs didn't yet exist < 1474154346 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a similar word for "Younger" < 1474154358 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even had a piper specifically for elves I think, when all elves were tiny < 1474154360 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yenger < 1474154362 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1474154366 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, probably not < 1474154374 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If there is none, I've made up "Inggere" and will now use it forever) < 1474154391 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any common word paired? < 1474154393 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1474154399 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did I only dream that? hmm < 1474154430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Inggere/Ynggere/ < 1474154452 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I can't think offhand of a creature with no mana cost that's powerful to reanimate < 1474154473 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were green, you could do it with Green Sun's Zenith (which is sufficiently powerful that it's banned in Modern) < 1474154485 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not thinking of no mana cost < 1474154486 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dryad Arbor has no mana cost but it's not exactly the most broken thing to cheat into play < 1474154504 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pipering creatures with large mana cost for a fixed cost < 1474154520 0 :ais523!?@? NICK :callforjudgement < 1474154535 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ah right < 1474154557 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you believe Un-sets to be authorities on colour pie, there's always Timmy < 1474154559 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is almost literally that < 1474154572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you said Tooth or Nail < 1474154585 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for un-sets, isn't Ach, Hans a better example? < 1474154600 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also green, isn't it? < 1474154626 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there is! Skyshroud Poucher < 1474154706 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skyshroud Poucher lets you put any elf into play each of your turns starting from your fourth < 1474154741 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from hand or from library? I guess from hand? < 1474154758 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Skyshroud Poacher < 1474154761 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it lets you search your library and put directly to play < 1474154769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skyshroud Poacher \ 2GG \ Creature -- Human Rebel \ 2/2 \ {3}, {T}: Search your library for an Elf permanent card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library. \ NE-R < 1474154794 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an elf deck you can probably get that out early < 1474154803 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems too expensive to be useful in combo elves < 1474154828 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all elves were tiny when that got printed, they didn't even have the 6/6 Wirewood Guardian yet < 1474154916 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you will make mine different such as: Opponent selects two of those six types, and then you can search your library for one of each. < 1474154921 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: yes, the problem is more that you can't protect it, you won't even have mana to cast your Vines of Vastwood on it < 1474154994 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474155055 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wonder, would it read better without an explicit list, like "An opponent chooses four card types. Search your library for a card that doesn't have any of those types, and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library." < 1474155107 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if you don't make it a tutor, but instead some cheap repeatable effect where the opponent chooses types, you reveal the top card of your library, put it at the bottom of the library if the opponent guesses right, to your hand if he guesses wrong? < 1474155129 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474155132 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, still not very good < 1474155289 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Maybe it might be better if opponent just chooses four card types, I suppose. < 1474155317 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I choose vanguard, scheme, plane, and conspiracy < 1474155323 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like you said, then you can search for a card that does not have any of those types. < 1474155341 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(None of the cards in a library will have the types vanguard, scheme, plane, or conspiracy.) < 1474155354 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And therefore you may then take any card.) < 1474155358 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is vanguard even a real card type these days? < 1474155379 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474155396 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few things that appear in card type position but aren't card types < 1474155399 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Token and Emblem < 1474155400 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474155410 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(arguably Token is in supertype position, it's kind-of hard to tell) < 1474155416 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those aren't card types; I call them "pseudotypes". < 1474155451 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're the equivalent of Card, rather than Creature or Legendary < 1474155459 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're hypertypes, given that they're more general than supertypes < 1474155474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in that case they are that kind of thing; "pseudotypes" is something more general. < 1474155513 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't emblems a new sort of object these days, besides cards in a zone, activated or triggered abilities on the stack, tokens in a zone, copies of spells? < 1474155522 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A pseudotype is never part of an object's text and is never a characteristic.) < 1474155538 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes, they are a new sort of object. < 1474155562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other sorts of objects are copies of cards, copies of spells, tokens, abilities on stack, like you say. < 1474155573 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"copies of cards"? < 1474155624 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: you can copy an exiled card, although I think the copy immediately dissipates if you don't immediately cast it < 1474155631 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there only copies of spells (which usually are in exile or on the stack), tokens (which may be created as copies of a permanent), permanents that currently copy a permanent? < 1474155642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474155654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copies of spells work completely differently from copying a permanent, they're just accidentally named the same, as far as I can see < 1474155668 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some cases copies of cards are created and then cast (such as cipher). < 1474155677 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: there's a template along the lines of "you may copy the exiled instant, and may cast the copy" < 1474155689 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Trait Doctoring < 1474155690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trait Doctoring \ U \ Sorcery \ Change the text of target permanent by replacing all instances of one color word with another or one basic land type with another until end of turn. \ Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of < 1474155693 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that's why a copy of a spell can be in exile. < 1474155697 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1474155699 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If the copy is not cast, it ceases to exist.) < 1474155704 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Hidden Strings < 1474155705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hidden Strings \ 1U \ Sorcery \ You may tap or untap target permanent, then you may tap or untap another target permanent. \ Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.) \ DGM-C < 1474155711 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1474155722 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that the copy isn't a spell until you cast it < 1474155723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It isn't a spell while it is anywhere other than the stack. < 1474155739 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so temporarily, it's just a copy of a card < 1474155745 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's database should be updated with Eldritch Moon by the way < 1474155756 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it should also be updated with Kaladesh < 1474155759 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :full spoiler's out now < 1474155766 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474155774 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfj: no, it's still a copy of a spell, because the template it's made from is a copy. it's just that that copy-of-a-spell is not currently a spell < 1474155783 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfj: oh, is it out already? nice < 1474155791 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: what spell is it copying, though? < 1474155816 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hidden Strings itself is in exile < 1474155829 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the stack has nothing but a triggered ability that's trying to resolve < 1474155841 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: oh... um, I don't know how that works then < 1474155855 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it makes a copy of Hidden Strings in exile, then allows you to cast the copy < 1474155858 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't the copy just disappears again < 1474155861 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't understand how all those rules work < 1474155873 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably right < 1474155880 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a copy-of-a-card, which can be cast, and which disappears upon resolution or being countered < 1474155891 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like a copy-of-a-spell except that it isn't a spell that was copied < 1474155897 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1474155910 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(compare to token-copy-of-a-permanent, which is a token in addition to being a copy) < 1474156217 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474156253 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds