00:05:29 fizzie: When in Oct did you say you'll be here? 00:06:24 ~>pyc print 1+1 00:06:26 ​2 | 00:18:09 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:19:15 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( Can currency be modeled as stock in itself? As in, can ¤5 be thought of as 5 shares in the Generic Currency corporation? ) 00:20:11 Huh, Gold has a currency code (XAU) 00:20:25 Why stock? 00:20:45 It's a financial instrument like any other, but not part ownership of a company. 00:22:02 Fun fact: all elements have a systemic currency code. 00:22:12 Though not used at all, hydrogen is XH 00:22:30 `? fun fact 00:22:31 fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) 00:22:41 1 XH is, of course, one troy ounce of hydrogen. 00:25:06 pikhq: I think hydrogen would probably be XXH to keep the length-3 part consistent 00:25:10 Though what about xenon... 00:25:29 Thankfully, there is no element E. 00:25:47 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 00:25:51 yet 00:25:53 That would make it XXE, which- while unambiguous (no element 'E')- is still going to trip someone up who knows the X 00:26:09 Though arguably one could say that "e" is for an electron, and XXE is from 1 troy ounce of electrons. 00:26:21 (Really, the X should be after the element- gold is XAU, xenon is XEX, etc.) 00:26:46 pikhq: Do troy ounces even apply to gases? 00:26:54 s/XAU/AUX/ 00:27:07 Sure they do. It's used as a unit of mass, and gasses have mass. 00:27:17 pikhq: There, you fixed my messupery of their system 00:27:32 Mind, there aren't many cases where you even have electrons out of an atom, but... 1 troy ounce of electrons seems fun. 00:27:33 pikhq: Yeah, but not a very consistent density (unlike, say, Iron or Water) 00:27:39 *nod* 00:28:16 pikhq: What's the value of 1 troy ounce of salt (ClNa)? 00:29:35 Um, good question. 00:30:18 My best guess is that there's an extension for compounds- most likely, XCM(```) 00:33:38 (Maybe elements should be E[symbol-caps] rather than X__, so that X can be used for cryptocurrencies and such) 00:34:13 (At the moment, BTC for Bitcoin is considered bad because currency codes are [Nation][Letter], but BT is Bhutan, which Bitcoin is not associated with) 00:35:30 bhutancoin 00:35:45 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 00:35:56 Dammit, wifi 00:36:04 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Disconnected by services). 00:36:10 -!- hppavilion[2] has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 00:36:14 There 00:37:15 -!- ais523 has quit. 00:38:49 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 00:42:11 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:42:15 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 00:43:53 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:48:12 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:56:25 -!- myname has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 00:57:20 -!- mysanthrop has joined. 01:01:47 Bananas are berries... 01:01:48 Huh... 01:12:46 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( Maybe payment should actually be issued in man-hours rather than real hours- if you work at double pace, you get double pay ) 01:14:21 i,i and women would get paid 40% more? 01:15:08 shachaf: ...wat? 01:15:18 (This better not be a wage-gap joke...) 01:15:28 > 1/0.7 01:15:30 1.4285714285714286 01:16:32 shachaf: Under this system, women get paid by productiveness. If a woman produces twice as much output as a man doing equal work, she gets paid twice as much 01:19:10 (Now, in a mythical man-hour scenario this is bad when management decides to approximate; "oh, we added another person to the staff (from a staff of 1) but productivity is only 1.5* greater? Everyone receives a 25% pay dock, then.") 01:24:13 I've tried to explain to my mother before- who got acupuncture- that acupuncture is pseudoscience 01:24:34 Now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acupuncture is telling me that it /usually/ is, EXCEPT it might be effective for chemotherapy 01:24:38 Which is why she got it 01:24:40 DAMMIT, MOM! 01:25:38 -!- boily has joined. 01:26:10 Productivity is hard to quantify anyway, depending on what your job is 01:27:32 [wiki] [[Emmental]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49740&oldid=49739 * Kimiyuki * (+0) /* Using the discrete log */ 01:29:49 Do Chinese people with Synæsthesia have to develop mantis shrimp-like megavision? 01:35:32 (I wonder if anybody thinks I have synæsthesia from hearing me talk about hex color codes...) 01:38:23 (I guess hex codes are basically just symmetrical grapheme-color synæsthesia (color-grapheme-color-grapheme synæsthesia?)) 01:40:13 -!- Kaynato has joined. 01:41:26 -!- Froox has joined. 01:44:50 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:51:37 (Synæsthesia which does digits is stupid anyway; if you don't see every number as a distinct color unrelated to its digits, your brain is doing it wrong) 01:55:05 Dammit 01:55:21 Today's xkcd means I either need to support the Fashion Police or turn in my Grammar Police badge. 01:55:21 hppavellon[1]. 01:55:33 (Fashion Police Brutality?) 02:15:32 -!- boily has quit (Quit: ERRONEOUS CHICKEN). 02:42:29 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:51:25 I'm attempting to make an über-concise language for talking to computers (in the sense of conversing with a strong AI, rather than a programming language) 02:52:37 (It could also, presumably, work well for communicating over a language barrier because it's pretty simple (for now) and should be equally easy for people in all languages to figure out- the only difficulty is if you don't recognize the punctuation (e.g. you don't know ? usually ends a question) 02:52:40 ) 02:54:21 Trying to decide whether the standard initial greeting (the "are you there") should be ENQ or PING (ACK could maybe also be used) 03:26:18 What is best algorithm for converting a code with goto commands so that it doesn't use goto? 03:30:25 Why do you want to do that? 03:31:15 Mainly in order to compile the code into programming languages that don't have goto. 03:36:46 That depends on what those languages do have. 03:39:38 Most will have if and while, at least, as well as continue and break. JavaScript has a few more than just that, but it would be good to have something that can be use even if the target is not JavaScript but does have if/while/break at least. 03:53:19 My "OAA" compiler for the OASYS text adventure system as it turns out is using "twigils" a bit similar to Perl 6, although I invented it independently. This means that variables never need to be declared. By the prefix and suffix, you can tell if it is a global, local, property, class, method, etc; and the data type (or returned data type for a method) such as integer, string, object, pointer, or void. 03:56:46 It is different than Perl or BASIC though. In BASIC it uses suffixes for data type, and no prefix. Also, the letters forming the name are still required. In OAA the letters forming the name are not required, but the prefix & ! , . % * is required. Do you like this? 04:02:16 Is there a kind of indexing system for JSON data so that you can access JSON data from a program without having to store the entire data in RAM all at once? 04:08:26 <\oren\> Ok! now I've made some progress toward hangul! 04:10:07 <\oren\> zzo38: not that I know of, but you could make one 04:11:11 <\oren\> I think you'd have to regenerate the index after all changes 04:13:15 Yes, also I mean not only local index but also use of remote index. 04:17:40 <\oren\> Hmm, well maybe it's possible to dynamically generate a relational database from a json file? 04:17:56 <\oren\> by autodetecting schemata? 04:21:31 You can make a SQL database from JSON data, but that isn't quite what I was asking here. 04:38:14 "Oppression is what happens when personal preference becomes legal fact." -- me, just now 04:38:52 O, OK. 04:39:29 You may be right. 04:40:49 I know a guy name Jazon. I assume he stores attribute-value-style data in JZON. 04:42:42 (In germany, OTOH, they use JẞON 04:46:47 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 04:46:58 -!- clog has joined. 04:49:33 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:49:52 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 04:52:26 Italic type is OK, but I really want my typefaces to support Cilati type too... 04:53:45 -!- Kobalt has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:03:11 I'm slowly building an information-dense, impenetrable language for communication 05:03:13 ?['cat'].ü ↠ ?[id];; 05:03:13 Unknown command, try @list 05:03:19 Whoops 05:03:22 Sorry, lambdy 05:17:32 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Apples.jpg has been used with the note that the objects aren't ravens and ALSO aren't black 05:27:45 <\oren\> holy crap http://archive.is/FXcao <-- Paul Combetta was outright TOLD by the people he asked about redacting emails, that this would be a discorvery nightmare 05:28:18 <\oren\> worse than discovery, is congressional oversight 05:28:54 who is paul combetta and what did he do? 05:29:03 <\oren\> Elronnd: deleted hillary's emails 05:29:03 I have a tendency to be out of the loop on a lot of things 05:29:15 I see 05:29:30 <\oren\> he asked on reddit how to remove someone's address from an email archive 05:29:45 tbh I don't understand all the hillary hate 05:30:01 if I worked for the government, I wouldn't want them knowing what I emailed who 05:30:31 <\oren\> Elronnd: well, the government is supposed to be responsible for their actions 05:30:36 I mean, obviously if I email bob from the NSA, bob knows I emailed him; but if I email joe, I don't want bob to know about *that* 05:31:19 <\oren\> and there are laws in the US that say essentially that their legistlature has the right to know everything that the government does 05:31:45 <\oren\> so hillary is not supposed to hide these emails 05:32:23 and that's why I don't want to work for the us government 05:32:57 <\oren\> me neither. but if you work in any company it is important to keep emails archived in case of discovery 05:33:36 <\oren\> it's also why you should always have a separate work email and personal email 05:33:44 <\oren\> (which hillary did not have) 05:33:44 Yes you should have. 05:35:35 If you want to write personal email messages you should have a separate account which the government and so on does not see. If you need government email then you should be according to the law of government and ensure that anyone can sue them over it if it is wrong. 05:35:48 I suppose 05:36:22 at one point I made the realisation that a computer was a real virtual machine 05:36:30 then I realized how stupid that realization was 05:37:26 <\oren\> Elronnd: in case you're unfamiliar, "discovery" is a process where two companies suing each other get to request documents from each other to uncover evidence of wrongdoing 05:37:48 O, so it is like what I mentioned. 05:39:21 <\oren\> if you delete work emails, you can be fined or worse 05:39:49 <\oren\> so always make sure not to mmkay? 05:40:23 deletin's bad, mkuuuy? 05:41:04 Do you think this API would be good? http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/simple_js_addons 05:46:09 I'm bored 05:46:24 someone give me a wikipedia article to start perusing and go down a rabbit hole of links 05:47:33 Elronnd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random 05:47:48 OMG, they asked how to delete the emails on StackExchange!? 05:48:39 Oh, it's reddit 05:48:42 But still 05:48:42 !? 05:54:49 Men o' War should be classified as "Distributed Organisms" 05:58:49 <\oren\> I got "Distillation" 06:03:13 <\oren\> some editing tasks are more suited to ed, others to nano 06:03:35 \oren\: What's the *n?x equivalent of microsoft word? 06:03:58 (as in, sed:NotePad::?:Word) 06:05:27 <\oren\> uh, i suppose LibreOffice? 06:05:36 zzo38: But I heard the government can see all your email. 06:06:21 <\oren\> shachaf: nah, based on the problems they've had with hillarys' I think the nsa's spying is not actually as extensive as they claim 06:06:43 Why do people say "Hillary" instead of "Clinton"? 06:06:45 -!- `^_^v has joined. 06:06:57 <\oren\> shachaf: to avoid confusing her with bill clinton 06:07:12 What about the president after Bill Clinton? 06:07:34 <\oren\> also her campaign generally refers to her as hillary or just "Her" 06:08:04 And 'Hillary' is a fun name 06:08:06 <\oren\> the president after bill clinton was Bubya 06:08:10 <\oren\> Dubya 06:08:27 <\oren\> George Dubya bush 06:08:37 (If "Hillary" can be abbreviated to "Hill" and "Rob" can become "Bob", can we make "Hillary" abbreviable to "Bill"?) 06:08:45 <\oren\> as opposed to papa bush 06:08:47 Dubya 06:08:53 \oren\: Bush I 06:09:44 <\oren\> the movie about dubya was just called "W" 06:10:03 @google president bush 06:10:05 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush 06:10:16 <\oren\> gearge aitch dubya bush was his father 06:13:13 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 06:19:09 -!- `^_^v has joined. 06:19:15 \oren\: No, H. W. ("eych dubya") 06:19:17 -!- Akaibu has joined. 06:25:13 George -> Gearge -> Jarj - Jar Jar Bush 06:31:45 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 06:38:52 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:44:39 -!- MoALTz has joined. 06:45:10 If the president dies, the vice president ascends 06:45:22 If both die, the Speaker of the House ascends 06:46:07 If he dies too, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate ascends 06:46:50 Followed by the cabinet (of which one member is kept at a secure undisclosed location whenever the rest are in the same place at the same time- the "Designated Survivor") 06:49:24 I'm afraid it's nowhere near as interesting as the line of succession for the Queen, which these days likely includes most of the population of Europe. 06:51:24 pikhq: What about all the catholics? 06:51:38 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 06:51:52 Now, if the Designated Survivor has a heart attack, but the House is still around, they can elect a speaker who then becomes president 06:51:58 Ah, right. Includes *substantial portions* of the population of Europe. 06:52:10 pikhq: Also all the bastards 06:52:18 If they're gone too, the Senate chooses a President pro Tempore 06:52:33 While it's certainly not the case that all of Europe is Catholic, there's certainly a lot of Catholics there. 06:52:49 (And I think the rule is that you're cut off completely- if the crown can only get to you through a catholic, you're screwed. Or maybe that's just for bastardry) 06:52:56 As you might expect for a set of places that includes a Catholic theocracy. 06:53:03 hppavilion[1]: Just for bastardry. 06:53:08 pikhq: Ah 06:53:17 Now, if there IS no senate, the governors can appoint senators 06:53:31 Being Catholic apparently doesn't cut you off from giving rise to heirs, just prevents you from yourself being an heir. 06:53:39 Ah 06:54:01 So to properly break the country, you'd have to kill the president, vice president, every representative, every senator, AND every governor at the same time 06:54:15 And presumably you'd have to break the governor's line of succession in EVERY state. 06:55:29 Specifically, the law states, and I shit you not, anyone who is Catholic in the line of succession is "naturally dead". 06:55:39 Yep 06:55:40 (for purposes of succession) 06:55:42 "naturally dead" 06:56:51 So the lieutenant governor, and- just to be sure because rules vary- the President of the Senate, the entire Cabinet, Speaker of the House, and anybody who can make new ones (so the entire state Senate and state House) 06:56:57 They all have to die too 06:57:15 And once you've killed these 10,000+ people at the same time, we're FINALLY screwed 06:57:23 But we probably have much bigger problems LONG before this 06:58:33 However, there is a workaround for this. I'm pretty sure we could still hold a Constitutional Convention to make an amendment to add someone else to the succession. 07:00:34 pikhq: And who will convene? 07:00:56 "The States". 07:02:02 One still needs 2/3rds of the states to have functioning legislatures though. 07:02:37 Hrm. Wait. 07:02:46 2/3rds of the states may ask Congress for a convention. 07:02:50 Congress... still has to exist. 07:03:22 That'd be a bit of a mess. 07:04:57 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:05:51 -!- augur has joined. 07:06:31 pikhq: So what would happen? 07:06:35 Only one way to find out! 07:12:05 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 07:13:16 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:13:41 https://imgur.com/r/baduk is there a name for this kind of thing? 07:13:50 that kind of collection of pictures 07:13:52 on imgur 07:13:55 linked to a subreddit 07:14:20 i need the name to find it in the imgur api 07:21:22 -!- oerjan has joined. 07:24:52 * oerjan spots a rare boily in the logs 07:38:23 <\oren\> pikhq: that's why they need to catch and destroy the fifth column before they can grow to a strength capable of such an attack 07:41:38 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaikbWebnkk 07:51:46 -!- augur has joined. 07:52:41 -!- `^_^v has joined. 08:05:40 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 08:08:20 hppavilion[1]: about the line of succession for the president, there's actually a pretty good reason for why that's needed now, since 2010-04 when Lech Kaczyński and a large part of the government of Poland died at the same time from a crashed airplane. 08:10:35 It gets even easier if someone wants to deliberately kill members of the government. Mind you, in the 21st century it might get more difficult if members of government eventually get to the habit of just staying at home and teleconferencing with each other (each wearing the top half of an elegant suit because the camera doesn't show their legs) in 08:10:35 stead of traveling to meet in person. 08:18:55 -!- carado has joined. 08:32:31 -!- Caesura has joined. 08:34:03 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:53:31 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:56:35 -!- rodgort has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:57:04 -!- rodgort has joined. 09:18:38 The letter e key on this keyboard is repeatedly getting stuck again, so I'm glad I already ordered a new keyboard. I hope it will arrive soon. 09:20:39 It has an unusual layout by the way: on the left half it's like a standard 104 key layout so there's no extra key between the letter z and the left shift, but on the right it's like a 105 key layout so the enter key is upside down L-shaped and the backslash key is between the apostrophe and the bottom part of the enter key. 09:48:37 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 09:49:13 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 10:11:15 -!- boily has joined. 10:11:44 long time noily see 10:17:26 -!- mysanthrop has changed nick to myname. 10:19:13 hellørjan! 10:19:18 I exist! 10:19:30 occasionally! 10:20:13 * boily pokes himself. pretty sure I'm quite solid and substantial. 10:21:36 * oerjan aims a neutrino beam at boily. nope, no substance detected... 10:22:18 I just happened to be on vacation. perhaps the kimchi unsubstantiated me? 10:22:34 sounds logical. 10:22:54 i shall continue to avoid korean food, then. 10:24:39 then i assume it was a seoulful experience. 10:31:16 I'm already missing the food over there. it was delicious... 10:31:30 * boily thwacks oerjan. 0.9 shachafs. 10:32:01 need to get you back in mapole shape, you know. 10:32:54 I'm not yet quite synchronized with my current timezone. 10:33:25 i almost am! for once. 10:33:43 well, in a couple days, maybe. 10:37:29 @tell gamemanj I do not recommend posting these estimates into IRC. <-- approx. 5 seconds after she actually started singing hth 10:37:29 Consider it noted. 10:37:46 we had a singer in this chännel? 10:37:56 no, on youtube, linked by \oren\ 10:39:22 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 10:57:02 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 10:58:03 -!- `^_^v has joined. 11:12:14 o sole mio 11:12:29 wat 11:13:03 do re mi fa sol la ti do! 11:13:31 int-ello, izellove. 11:13:42 int-e: s/ti/si/ 11:13:46 do ré mi fa sol la si do. 11:13:50 helloily 11:14:07 izalove: there are several versions of this 11:14:18 sure but they're wrong 11:18:18 Wow, someone sanitized the topic. Now where do I put my "The opinionated channel."? I'll just let it float here, I guess. 11:19:06 -!- izalove has set topic: free space for advertising. 11:21:15 -!- boily has set topic: The Global Hub for Esoteric Programming Language Design and Sanity | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 11:21:27 -!- izalove has set topic: boring topics are boring. 11:24:23 wooo I'm scared!!!1 "Failure to complete your site submission may result in the cancellation of this offer, making it difficult for your customers to locate you on the web." [this is a spam mail directed at domain registrant, some SEO thing maybe but it's using a surprising level of fear instead of new and shiny for selling its services... sample: http://www.uia.org/content/1346 ) 11:24:40 -!- oerjan has set topic: The Global Hub for Esoteric Programming Language Design and Sanity | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 11:24:47 -!- izalove has set topic: hi i'm oerjan knoxville welcome to jackass. 11:24:57 (and of course it's quite possible that they offer no service at all) 11:25:36 izalove: don't remove the links. especially not the log links, they're mandated by freenode. 11:25:59 -!- oerjan has set topic: http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 11:26:26 oh, topic golfing 11:26:43 -!- izalove has set topic: fuck the sisters ehrm i mean the system. 11:27:40 -!- int-e has set topic: http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 11:28:32 -!- izalove has set topic: links available at http://goatse.info/. 11:28:35 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 11:28:38 aww 11:28:43 what do you mean that the logs are mandated by freenode? I'm on other channels without log links 11:28:44 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: +t. 11:28:48 killjoy 11:29:06 -!- oerjan has set topic: The Global Hub for Esoteric Programming Language Design and Sanity | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 11:29:10 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 11:29:15 you're no fun at all 11:29:15 izalove: no, you killed that particular fun right there 11:29:44 goatse'ing people is pretty much universally evil and bad 11:29:55 we try to stay away from evil stuff here 11:29:57 I thought that site was dead 11:30:07 idk, I'm not clicking it 11:30:36 Hoolootwo: if the channel is publicly logged, it must be noted in the channel topic. 11:30:39 i don't think anyone in this channel was tech savvy enough to know that link 11:30:46 err 11:30:53 i thought anyone in this channel was tech savvy enough to know that link 11:31:00 ah okay, that makes sense 11:31:48 izalove, you'd hope, but that is really not at all the topic of discussion here ever and doesn't belong in a topic 11:31:57 but idk, I'm not an op 11:32:31 fwiw i hadn't even noticed the goatse link when i decided i'd put +t if izalove did it _one_ more time hth 11:32:48 no warning? 11:32:50 I don't think oerjan minded the link all that much... the problem was removing the other (useful, partially mandated) links even after it was explicitely stated that they should remain in the topic. 11:32:55 oerjan: what kind of mod are you? 11:32:56 izalove: you had plenty of warning. 11:33:01 no i don't think so 11:33:09 literally nobody told me to stop 11:33:14 izalove: i believe reverting your action counts as a warning. 11:33:38 anyway... 11:33:58 oerjan: would it kill you to tell people "stop doing this or i'll +t"? 11:34:04 izalove: i told you not to remove the links. 11:34:42 izalove: sorry, i was too busy resisting the temptation to just kick hth 11:38:22 but seriously, when you're obviously willfully irritating people getting warned is a privilege, not a right. 11:38:34 now shave -> 11:40:51 -!- boily has quit (Quit: IMPERIAL CHICKEN). 12:15:51 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 12:21:00 -!- ais523 has joined. 13:40:56 -!- Kobalt has joined. 13:41:23 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 13:41:27 doot 13:44:01 -!- Kobalt has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:44:17 -!- Kobalt has joined. 13:45:45 -!- Kobalt has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:46:00 -!- Kobalt has joined. 13:47:08 damn channel is dead 13:47:14 *hides the bodys* 14:10:23 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 14:18:22 -!- Kobalt has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:18:39 -!- shikhin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:18:40 -!- Kobalt has joined. 14:18:47 -!- shikhin has joined. 14:21:47 -!- Kobalt has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:22:00 -!- Kobalt has joined. 14:22:54 -!- Kobalt has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:23:09 -!- Kobalt has joined. 14:42:49 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 14:50:10 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:57:32 -!- ais523 has quit. 15:08:54 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 15:17:07 [wiki] [[MiniPig]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49741 * Challenger5 * (+3068) Created page with "'''Minipig''', or MP, is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:Challenger5]]. It is a minimalistic stack-based language that was pretty much designed in under..." 15:18:21 -!- uberBear has joined. 15:55:43 `unidecode ⍝ 15:55:53 ​[U+235D APL FUNCTIONAL SYMBOL UP SHOE JOT] 16:10:27 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:10:59 -!- augur has joined. 16:20:16 -!- gamemanj has joined. 16:37:08 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:52:46 -!- uberBear has quit (Quit: Leaving). 16:56:13 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Tdjc8An5w 17:17:02 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:26:44 shachaf: I think it was a week around the 20th or so, can't quite recall. 17:27:05 I'm in Italy for an offsite now. 17:28:13 There's someone new to the team starting today, must be a nice way to welcome them with everyone else in Italy having fun. 17:30:02 -!- `^_^v has joined. 17:31:18 -!- Kaynato has joined. 17:38:17 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:47:14 fizzie: where you at? 17:47:43 It's been a long time since I've been in Italy... coming up to a month and a half 17:50:17 I think I haven't been to Italy for almost two decades. 17:50:35 shachaf, you should fix that 17:50:46 Maybe you should go to Italy the next time I'm in California! 17:50:57 Why? 17:51:12 Because Italy is lovely 17:51:18 I think I need to be here to give you bad Magic: The Gathering cards. 17:51:36 izalove: Somewhere around Lake Garda. 17:52:02 nice 17:52:04 Near-ish Verona. 17:52:05 go to gardaland 17:52:20 -!- _46bit has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:52:26 I saw Gardaland, it was one of the activities for today. 17:52:50 ??? why did you leave? 17:53:30 not staying the whole day at gardaland? what kind of sick perversion is this? 17:53:32 I went on a boat trip to Isola del Garda instead. 17:53:37 whaaaaat 17:53:41 you're crazy 17:53:46 I mean, I saw it from a bus, driving by. 17:53:52 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 17:55:09 so sorry for you 17:56:00 -!- _46bit has joined. 17:56:00 -!- _46bit has quit (Changing host). 17:56:00 -!- _46bit has joined. 17:56:25 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 17:58:01 [wiki] [[MiniPig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49742&oldid=49741 * Challenger5 * (+321) 17:58:14 -!- _46bit has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:58:28 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:58:44 -!- `^_^v has joined. 17:58:45 [wiki] [[MiniPig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49743&oldid=49742 * Challenger5 * (+0) Fixed the category link ~~~~ 17:59:26 -!- LKoen has joined. 17:59:44 [wiki] [[MiniPig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49744&oldid=49743 * Challenger5 * (+0) Fixed the category link ~~~~ 18:01:37 -!- _46bit has joined. 18:01:37 -!- _46bit has quit (Changing host). 18:01:37 -!- _46bit has joined. 18:09:48 -!- _46bit has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:11:23 -!- _46bit has joined. 18:11:23 -!- _46bit has quit (Changing host). 18:11:23 -!- _46bit has joined. 18:24:38 i have a list with n words. what's the complexity of finding all the words with damerau levenshtein distance at most k from a certain word? 18:26:39 I *want* to say O(n), or O(n*m) where m is the average word length, but I'm not sure 18:27:11 O(n) means you can compute the distance in O(1) 18:28:41 If all the words are the same length, it'd be O(m) with constant m 18:28:51 Or O(f(m)) 18:29:08 Effectively constant, nonetheless, assuming it's only the number of words you're varying 18:30:52 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 18:31:09 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:31:47 -!- `^_^v has joined. 18:32:32 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:33:45 -!- Kaynato has joined. 18:37:07 izalove: pretty slow if k>1, even with lots of memory and fast memoization 18:37:30 O(lots) ok 18:39:22 It has been shown that the Levenshtein distance of two strings of length n cannot be computed in time O(n2 - ε) unless the strong exponential time hypothesis is false. 18:39:37 n^2 should be 18:40:18 which says its like O(n*m^2) 18:41:39 there are some optimizations of course, where you stop trying to find the distance as soon as it exceeds k 18:42:08 but that doesnt affect the worst case 18:47:08 but lets just say ive actually tried to do this on a very long list and it took days. 18:48:11 :) 19:05:09 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 19:12:37 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 19:13:01 int-e: I am also getting some very sophisticated spam these days. some spammers are really upping their game. 19:13:05 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:16:30 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 19:17:01 -!- Elronnd has changed nick to khoR_. 19:17:05 -!- khoR_ has changed nick to Elronnd. 19:18:45 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 19:20:04 if i have two 20 characters strings 19:20:11 and their distance is at most 5 19:20:25 how many characters are in the correct order? 19:22:14 ignore that, it doesn't make things simpler 19:26:46 -!- ais523 has quit. 19:28:45 -!- Kaynato has joined. 19:41:00 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:46:57 -!- FreeFull has quit. 19:48:48 [wiki] [[MiniPig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49745&oldid=49744 * Challenger5 * (+13) Changed 19:49:09 [wiki] [[MiniPig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49746&oldid=49745 * Challenger5 * (+0) 19:49:38 [wiki] [[User:Challenger5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49747&oldid=49654 * Challenger5 * (+16) Added by language 19:52:14 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:52:44 -!- Froo has joined. 19:56:18 -!- Froox has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:02:28 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49748&oldid=49683 * Challenger5 * (+14) 20:04:25 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:08:52 -!- Zarutian has joined. 20:10:12 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 20:19:42 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 20:34:07 -!- FreeFull has joined. 20:34:25 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 20:47:51 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 20:49:38 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:53:33 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:01:11 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 21:31:53 -!- ais523 has joined. 21:43:35 -!- augur has joined. 21:46:29 -!- ais523 has quit. 22:07:22 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 22:12:17 -!- gamemanj has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:12:55 -!- staffehn has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 22:13:27 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 22:17:07 -!- staffehn has joined. 22:30:29 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:47:15 -!- adu has joined. 23:00:35 <\oren\> ARGH 23:00:56 <\oren\> shifting left by a negative number doesn't shift right! WHYYYYYY 23:04:07 -!- boily has joined. 23:06:06 <\oren\> `cc int main(){printf("%d",0xfff<<-1);} 23:06:09 2047 23:06:40 <\oren\> hold on wat? 23:06:49 <\oren\> it works in gcc? 23:07:27 <\oren\> in tcc that writes 0 23:07:35 pretty sure it's undefined behavior 23:07:39 enjoy your nasal demons 23:07:41 he\\oren\, hellolsner. 23:07:50 `RELCOME BOILY 23:07:51 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: RELCOME: not found 23:07:53 <\oren\> `cc int main(){printf("%d",0xfff>>-1);} 23:07:54 8190 23:08:06 HELLOCHAF!!! 23:08:22 `welcome boily 23:08:23 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome: not found 23:08:29 I thought that one was defined. 23:08:36 `` ls bin/** 23:08:38 bin/echo \ bin/welcome 23:08:45 `welcome boily 23:08:46 ​boily: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 23:09:02 `welcome boily 23:09:03 ​boily: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 23:09:18 <\oren\> `wat 23:09:19 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wat: not found 23:09:21 <\oren\> `? wat 23:09:23 ​ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ የሚሰራ የምግብ አይነት ሲሆን፣ የሚሰራውም ከጤፍ ነው። 23:09:42 <\oren\> is that ethiopian or something 23:10:13 it's messing up my terminal, that's for sure 23:10:18 <\oren\> yeah, amharic 23:10:43 that one's mine ^^ 23:12:37 It isn't messing up my terminal 23:12:45 Just looks mysterious 23:13:20 What does it say? 23:13:31 it's the first sentence of the Amharic version of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_(food) 23:14:26 Ah xD 23:14:37 `? wut 23:14:38 wut? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:14:42 `? what 23:14:43 what? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:15:33 <\oren\> I am sooo close to figuring out what's wrong with my hangul code 23:16:13 <_46bit> Hangul sounds a marvellous name for a programming language. 23:18:18 I was in Korea. completely surrounded by hangul everywhere. it tends to grow on you after a few days... 23:18:34 <\oren\> I at least did finish the hangul jamo variants that will be used to piece together each hangul. 23:19:00 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/hangulparts.htm 23:19:02 boily: You got a hangul tattoo? 23:19:06 s/Y/y/ 23:20:18 <\oren\> or did i? 23:20:20 not yet. if I get one, it probably will be the original hangul as devised by King Sejong's court. 23:20:56 <\oren\> we have two variants of each vowel, one which doesn't leave room for a final, one which does. 23:22:47 <\oren\> we have several variants of each initial consonant 23:23:37 <\oren\> but I think there are at least two variants that need to be made, for use with horizontal vowels 23:24:51 <\oren\> we already have the variants for vertical, and backwards L shaped consonants 23:25:01 <\oren\> er, vowels 23:27:52 -!- alakra has joined. 23:28:54 `relcome alakra 23:28:56 ​alakra: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 23:32:23 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Quit: IceChat - It's what Cool People use). 23:33:10 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 23:43:05 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:46:12 -!- Kaynato has joined. 23:48:49 -!- moonythedwarf_ has joined. 23:48:50 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 23:49:17 -!- Froox has joined. 23:51:42 hi hppavilion[1] 23:52:46 -!- Froo has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 23:55:33 Wow 23:56:59 According to FiveThirtyEight, 3% of US adults (a larger percentage of gun owners exclusively) account for 133M out of 265M guns (265 megaguns) 23:57:20 By my math, each one owns slightly more than 18 on average (their numbers say 17 for some reason) 23:57:29 (They probably used less simplified statistics) 23:57:43 helloonythedwarf_ ```