< 1474416344 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1474416372 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to take into consideration that a lot of gun owners are likely to own multiple guns < 1474416569 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: From my knowledge of gun owners, that seems about right TBH. < 1474416579 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decent number of people are gun collectors. < 1474416607 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a friend with ~50 interesting firearms. ... And no ammunition. < 1474416647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I want to be an ammunition collector; lots of bullets, no way to use them < 1474417575 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474417653 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SMITH CHICKEN < 1474417728 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474417743 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474417886 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474417963 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474418092 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418128 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Changing host < 1474418128 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418152 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boily has returned! < 1474418234 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418263 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474418437 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474418440 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tell boily coily! webek! < 1474418441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean "@tell boily coily! webek!" instead? < 1474418446 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418447 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily coily! webek! < 1474418447 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474418457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks HackEgo < 1474418463 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thackego < 1474418553 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474419580 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474421815 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474422254 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474422468 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474422642 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474422967 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474423132 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474423230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474423705 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474423714 0 :mewmewmalazerbea!~mewmewmal@unaffiliated/mewmewmalazerbea JOIN :#esoteric < 1474423729 0 :mewmewmalazerbea!~mewmewmal@unaffiliated/mewmewmalazerbea PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1474423764 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474423803 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474424047 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474426835 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474427038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474427165 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1474428069 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474428126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474428744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474429285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474430097 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.saveie6.com/ < 1474430232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474432229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Should I beat wine–whine out of myself?) < 1474434211 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best I can do is write things to render tolerably in IE6. < 1474434232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq < 1474434235 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trick is to use a conditional comment and hide CSS from IE6 entirely. < 1474434279 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and acknowledge that the "no CSS whatsoever" experience is the best thing to do without going crazy) < 1474434303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flex is TG < 1474434304 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :better is to officially not support IE6 < 1474434316 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1474434323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only support CSS 8 < 1474434324 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ < 1474434338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever the current version is < 1474434360 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Though I generally agree, I still prefer having light CSS. < 1474434414 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1474434434 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said... Write it basically like that, give it a tiny CSS file (like, 1k or less TBH), prevent IE6 from seeing CSS at all, and voila. You basically support everything. < 1474434457 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the only reason to prevent IE6 from seeing CSS at all is because IE6 CSS is spectacularly broken. < 1474434590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: just add "better" to the beginning of the domain name hth < 1474434627 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bingo. < 1474436543 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474437257 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1474438718 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474439060 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474439249 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474439451 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you transfer a Pokémon to Pokémon Bank and then on to Pokémon Sun or Pokémon Moon from Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, or Pokémon Y, you’ll be unable to transfer it back to Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, or Pokémon Y." < 1474439456 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why? < 1474439560 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.207.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474439677 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474439825 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.207.169 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474440627 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ < 1474442064 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474443748 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booo < 1474444830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474444938 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474445414 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474446117 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474446373 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474446643 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474446652 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474448537 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474448812 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474449254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474450389 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1474450395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric :-t < 1474450398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1474451309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn_append shachaf He has a terminal disease. ) < 1474452036 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :goed morjnang < 1474452062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goid afternoont-e < 1474452067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1474452071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still morning < 1474452109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goid mornint-e < 1474452159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Dsching! Dsching! Dschinghis Khan! ) < 1474452241 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helleveryone < 1474452262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morneb < 1474452638 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474452659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mborningly < 1474452982 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :børjan matin! < 1474452987 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1474452987 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 9h 35m 40s ago: coily! webek! < 1474453013 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAA! I am even more unsynchronized as usual! < 1474453013 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474453345 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474454597 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474454607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :applicative functor//Applicative functors are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1474454718 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. aren't those supposed to be monads? < 1474455445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1474455446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. < 1474455448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1474455449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1474455468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *DUN DUN DUN* < 1474455535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're actually both true hth) < 1474456506 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone explain the "monads" one? < 1474456958 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cuplrits wisdom/monads < 1474456959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cuplrits: not found < 1474456965 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/monads < 1474456967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf elliott oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan shachaf Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover ais523 ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1474456983 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. I believe oerjan can hth < 1474457739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* 10New user account < 1474457851 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like it could be an actual person < 1474458087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49749&oldid=49738 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+131) 10 < 1474458157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Total Vacuum14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49750 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+21) 10Created page with "Under construction..." < 1474458323 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an actual person! < 1474458334 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1474458393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REPRODUCTIBLE CHICKEN < 1474458681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474459368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: boily believes wrong. try shachaf instead hth < 1474459388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg monads < 1474459389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 5134 \ find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -El \'(is|are) just\' | xargs rm \ revert \ revert 1 \ revert \ rm wisdom/monads \ echo \'Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras.\' > wisdom/monads \ revert \ echo \' Much like Mo < 1474459547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474461210 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474462836 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, i can define hauling destiations in my dflike and i can even limit what to put there < 1474464896 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474464904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you're finally working on hangul support? great! < 1474466511 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 76 < 1474466512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :76.00°F = 24.44°C < 1474466847 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof 24.44 < 1474466848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24.44°C = 75.99°F < 1474466852 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed < 1474466933 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof 24.44°C < 1474466934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24.44°C = 75.99°F < 1474466939 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof 24.44°F < 1474466940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24.44°C = 75.99°F < 1474467643 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474467944 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474468580 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474468725 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474468790 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474468801 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471211 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471231 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive in here? < 1474471279 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow < 1474471281 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like a zombie :/ < 1474471294 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's monday... no wait < 1474471298 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Wednesday actually < 1474471301 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474471327 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474471335 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is digin4 new? never seen him aroung < 1474471337 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*around < 1474471348 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I'm new here < 1474471354 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome digin4 < 1474471357 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks <3 < 1474471360 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09digin4: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1474471385 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o:) < 1474471393 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471394 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is kobalt off? -.- < 1474471403 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp *boots kobalt into life* < 1474471417 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print "This vetter work, its alive i hope" < 1474471418 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​This vetter work, its alive i hope | < 1474471421 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1474471465 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474471499 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :digin4: have you made any esolangs as of now? just curious < 1474471515 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just joined to learn < 1474471520 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474471563 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well make sure to look over the wiki ^_^ < 1474471572 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking it atm :D < 1474471697 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471868 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinking of the plausibility of writing a irc bot in befunge (With another program acting as the interface, obviously) < 1474471947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where'd fungot go? < 1474471959 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in befunge-98 without the need of another program to act as the interface < 1474471972 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge-98 probably has the best library support of any esolang < 1474471977 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that includes things like network connections < 1474472017 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1474472019 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it supports that? < 1474472022 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt know. < 1474472056 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot is down < 1474472069 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that we necessarily need it up, but I didn't know whether you knew or not) < 1474472124 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to do it anyways, just for fun < 1474472168 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :external program for irc interface because i dont want to write a entire IRC interface in befunge (aka, a pain) < 1474472246 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IRC protocol is really simpel < 1474472248 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*simple < 1474472254 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but im lazy :P < 1474472265 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus i need to learn befunge first < 1474472297 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or choose a diffrent esolang < 1474472302 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and learn that one < 1474472349 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474473681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ? < 1474474425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474474429 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474474505 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so the first step is working: it reads in BDF characters and converts them to fixed size bitmap images in an ad-hoc format < 1474474507 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474474565 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next step is for it to grab the correct bitmap images and overlay them for each hangul character < 1474474598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then those characters must be converted back into BDF format to be inserted into the font < 1474474638 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I can figure out the whole TTF compound character thing in fontforge, which I doubt < 1474474648 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be the method I'll be using < 1474474684 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this method will result in a very large font file, but space is cheap these days so i think it will be fine < 1474474771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: they're only 16x16 images < 1474474818 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16x18 actually, but yeah small < 1474474842 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the ttf they will be converted to an outline < 1474474867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the size is linear in the number of corners < 1474474885 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you edit your glyphs, out of curiosity? < 1474474909 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use fontforge, plus some custom programs < 1474474925 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so you haven't figured out yet how to make a bitmap ttf? < 1474474934 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1474474950 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apparently some people want to make a new (more modern) font editor system instead of fontforge < 1474474962 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like that < 1474474972 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I edited my bitmap fonts in generic pixel art tools, with a little script (eventually) to convert it to BDF < 1474474997 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have to use fontforge to convert it to ttf still though < 1474475042 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, yes, unless there's other tools to convert BDF to TTF < 1474475092 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I eventually will figure out how to write my own < 1474475130 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the requirements for mine are strange since the conversion is done in a way that preserves the pixelation < 1474475151 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to most fonts which want smooth edges < 1474475177 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some black magic way of making fontforge do that < 1474475223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday I went to a talk about METAFONT. < 1474475361 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: METAFONT is h.p.lovecraft level black magic < 1474476089 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474476580 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474476706 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474476893 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474477100 0 :kline!?@? NICK :{ < 1474477130 0 :{!?@? NICK :Guest27631 < 1474477157 0 :Guest27631!?@? NICK :kline < 1474477538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1053 < 1474477548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1053: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1474477929 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479613 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474479699 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479721 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479940 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474481002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474481026 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I lied, it's the week before. < 1474481051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which week? < 1474481073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you actually lie? < 1474481290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungone! < 1474481848 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're outta fun < 1474481853 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 fungot < 1474481854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shatbg < 1474481861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list < 1474481877 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed < 1474481902 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I heard ais523. I'll re-fungot once I get home, currently in a train from Gatwick. < 1474481933 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I answered your question the other day, when you weren't looking. < 1474482392 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474482709 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474482804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I remember that you answered the question but I don't remember the answer. < 1474482842 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474483505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬(['muffin man'.i); ?(['muffin man'].ü) ↠ ?[id];; # translates to "I do not know the muffin man. Do you know the muffin man? If so, please tell me about the muffin man." < 1474483626 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is muffin man object of id? < 1474483679 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my mental alarm for a likely race condition just went off < 1474483702 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good software development practices would imply replacing this with "I do not know the muffin man. Please tell me all you know about the muffin man." < 1474483709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 'id' in the sense used in citations < 1474483729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 'I.D.' but the word 'id' (like 'ego and superego) < 1474483746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*(like 'ego' and 'superego', but not at all related to that meaning) < 1474483753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you aren't checking for knowledge of the muffin man separately from asking about it, which means you don't have to worry about what happens if the muffin man changes status < 1474483753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I don't think there's an actual bug in this case, just a code smell < 1474483755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How so? < 1474483765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1474483779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be more efficient to just directly ask < 1474483781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: say I write "does the user have permission to read this file? if so, give the user a copy of the file" < 1474483790 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that contains a bug, and one that's been widely exploited < 1474483795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But this is designed to be a language for communication rather than a programming language < 1474483801 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the user has any ability to change the referent of "this file" mid-program (say with a symlink) < 1474483818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Primarily for talking to strong AIs) < 1474483827 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strong AIs will probably just learn English < 1474483834 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even weak AIs are decent at understanding it at this point < 1474483836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well yeah, but this is more fun < 1474483850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, even if they learn English, that still leads to confusion and ambiguity) < 1474483875 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could as well just wrote prolog, you know < 1474483882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Well yeah... < 1474483905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would also be nice for talking to people where you don't share a conventional language, because it's symbolic enough that you should be able to learn it without brute memorization < 1474483914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only issue is that things like 'muffin man' don't translate easily) < 1474483932 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's hard to express "I do not know the muffin man" in Prolog without making an explicit statement about your knowledge status, which would be weird and unidiomatic < 1474483979 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can express "My knowledge state about the muffin man is that the muffin man is unknown" in Prolog, but it looks just as weird in Prolog as it does in English < 1474483987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :&['muffin man'] = ['mulberry lane'];; < 1474483991 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would only serve as an answer to a question if the question were formulated in a similar way < 1474484026 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more idiomatic would be to make no statement about the muffin man, which in Prolog means something along the lines of "if you asked me about the muffin man, I wouldn't have anything to say" < 1474484047 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and any question about the muffin man would be replied to with an answer that meant the information was not available) < 1474484097 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, are there any fans of the language curry here? < 1474484134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simple conversation would be [2]> ?(['muffin man'].ü);; [1]> ¬(['muffin man'.i); ?(['muffin man'].ü) ↠ ?[id];; [2]> &['muffin man'] = ['mulberry lane'];; < 1474484197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, 'id' necessarily means 'the last value directly used' < 1474484214 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not really interested in hyperlegalistic conlangs < 1474484215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By definition < 1474484227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1474484249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think it's fun because it looks like what a muggle would expect talking to a computer to be like < 1474484254 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if so, why don't use it in ?() already? < 1474484291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the literal reading of "?(['cat'].ü) ↠ ?[id];;" is actually "query meaning 'cat' dependent query current user knows meaning 'cat' end < 1474484291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :") < 1474484307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ? < 1474484324 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ?([id].ü)? < 1474484343 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of mentioning muffin man there < 1474484404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, because id is- or at least was- local to the message, so that things don't constantly conflict < 1474484426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can't use 'id' to reference a value used 30 lines ago, basically) < 1474484439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh I see < 1474484442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1474484508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can actually drop the 'i' in "['muffin man'].i", too; if you just say "x." it's assumed that you mean yourself) < 1474485232 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474485252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi! < 1474485252 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'd call the lambda with the parameters in the url above. < 1474485309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: surprisingly, i don't think anyone's mentioned a url since i joined. < 1474485309 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shutting that down kills the program < 1474485342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well yes, that's usually the point of shutting down. < 1474485342 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you tasted fnord 99% cocoa chocolate? ;p it might make sense < 1474485367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: not to my knowledge, but maybe it was fnord without me noticing. < 1474485367 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're completely destroying a lot of cases where the result is a big fan of the language < 1474485392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: OKAY < 1474485417 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: burn me < 1474485417 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that is the sense that you can't already do? ( the interface to it. < 1474485431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: try again? < 1474485431 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how can anyone believe in something" stance is incredibly irritating at times, and it seems so abstract compared to c < 1474485498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so true < 1474485907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is the basis of all reality < 1474485927 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, under c is machine code < 1474485932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why so much of reality seems undefined < 1474485964 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because the machine code is unreadable < 1474486088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's because each of us runs reality through a different c compiler, with different undefined behaviors < 1474486215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474486320 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474486728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474487854 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm testing out a sentence in Google Translate, translating into German < 1474487867 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I write the input sentence in lowercase, it translates "you" into "Sie" < 1474487880 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I capitalise the first letter, I get "Du" as the translation instead < 1474487903 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this does not really fill me with confidence < 1474487918 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from the actual original sentence, it probably translates to "Man") < 1474487980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the first word? < 1474488009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be weird for it to consider a sentence more formal if not capitalized... < 1474488012 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you" < 1474488014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1474488025 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it struck me that if it's differentiating on that, it has it backwards < 1474488043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be precise, the original was a sentence fragment "you're likely to need a lot more characters to express something in German than you are in Japanese" < 1474488055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was using it to experiment to see how true the statement was < 1474488074 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we have a translationbot in here somewhere? < 1474488138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo used to, but the code bitrotted < 1474488157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then all networking did, i think. hm. < 1474488192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget https://www.google.com/ < 1474488193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2016-09-21 19:03:00-- https://www.google.com/ \ Resolving www.google.com (www.google.com)... failed: Name or service not known. \ wget: unable to resolve host address `www.google.com' < 1474488206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, looks dead. < 1474488222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except `fetch) < 1474488354 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474488559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Man braucht wahrscheinlich viel mehr Zeichen, um etwas in Deutsch auszudrücken, als in Japanisch. ) < 1474488589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i try to clean up and use Man < 1474488665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lapsang souchong is tg < 1474488675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm except that doesn't preserve the original duplication. < 1474488686 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474488715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man braucht wahrscheinlich viel mehr Zeichen, um etwas in Deutsch auszudrücken, als man in Japanisch braucht. < 1474488737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1474488753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably shouldn't put the last "braucht" last. < 1474488769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs a native speaker < 1474488791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I qualify as a native speaker of any language. < 1474488800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1474488986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanta til Beate snur sin gamle plate ennå en gang, og server te med melk (Lap-sang-sou-chong!) < 1474489215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEfK-0UhTo < 1474489954 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474489983 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474490283 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491003 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491014 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1053 < 1474491015 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1053: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1474491024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's already been olisted. < 1474491048 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it? I checked the logs and didn't see it, sorry < 1474491049 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we program `olist to remember the number it's given as argument < 1474491056 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh indeed it has < 1474491061 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, you should < 1474491063 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not list if it's already seen an equal or larger number? < 1474491070 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not my list, and I'm not on it :-P < 1474491095 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is `list I think (although it's not using my original implementation any more and hasn't for years) < 1474491104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, given that i _saw_ it in the logs... < 1474491149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1474491150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date > share/conscripts; culprits share/conscripts | xargs -n 1 | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs < 1474491167 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/conscripts < 1474491168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat May 14 12:44:55 UTC 2016 < 1474491177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know that I want it to make a commit for every olist, but it could put something in tmp/ < 1474491178 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474491179 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for a while, it seems < 1474491181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's girl genius is pretty meta. and with one avatar hauling another... < 1474491195 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: commits aren't very expensive, surely < 1474491223 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, they shouldn't be expensive in sane version control systems < 1474491228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But olists come so frequently that HackEgo might not be able to handle the load. < 1474491252 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, OOTS posts don't come that often at all < 1474491264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway they're expensive conceptually, not in terms of computer cost. < 1474491265 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a non-unique `olist wouldn't need a commit < 1474491304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tweaks ais523's joke detector < 1474491329 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that was meant to be sarcasm? it doesn't look like it < 1474491355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was not serious. olists are very infrequent. < 1474491368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may have been a joke about HackEgo being very slow nowadays, but I'm not sure. < 1474491380 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, they're a bit more frequent these days than they used to be for a while < 1474491398 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: there was a big gap due to the author getting injured < 1474491404 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1474491415 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that, there's rarely been a gap of more than two weeks except at the end of a book (which always gives a defined date for when the comic will resume) < 1474491418 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise that < 1474491424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: HackEgo has sped up recently < 1474491428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1474491429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474491432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: True. < 1474491440 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tends to be slower if nobody's used it for a while < 1474491450 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has to swap back into memory or something < 1474491453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: even considering that. < 1474491454 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491496 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we need to use it more often to make it less slow? hmm < 1474491508 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle encouragement to use the service < 1474491511 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1474491660 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3312 , has the cop chosen this bar because she's got dimmers installed there so she can dim the lights when she says something dramatic, just like Tarquin does in his palacE? < 1474491675 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474491843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a smokebomb pie? < 1474491853 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, three slices of smokebomb, one of edible pie. < 1474492200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474492865 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474492887 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474492903 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1474492918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome tuttobene < 1474492920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06tuttobene: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1474492929 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474493010 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474493115 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When writing research papers about programming, does a manual of writing mechanics for this field exist, such as the APA Manual of Style in the field of Psychology? < 1474493141 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used anything like that, I've just tried to imitate the style of typical papers < 1474493160 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea, I don't write such papers. < 1474493163 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most programming papers are conference papers anyway rather than journal papers, so people hold them to a slightly lower standard due to the need to make deadlines being larger < 1474493347 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thanks < 1474493377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I write papers? < 1474493386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never done it. < 1474493393 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1474493403 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474493405 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you need it for a degree or something < 1474493473 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just code? < 1474493509 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-phozfbxvsmqxbxei JOIN :#esoteric < 1474493584 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the need to write papers comes when something has to be explained < 1474493603 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a technique, or a concept < 1474493788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474494037 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474494045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474494284 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-jsabvatttxsiyquj QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474494545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495093 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Patching... < 1474495388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495459 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points local irssi users at the recent global notice < 1474495520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm now my backscroll is working strangely, only half the window scrolls... < 1474495541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and my line overwrote FireFly's :( < 1474495559 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's okay, I rarely say anything of importance anyway < 1474495587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this bandaid patch is horribly buggy. < 1474495591 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you just did, though < 1474495610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not of importance to oerjan, though. < 1474495634 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474495664 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The better alternative would probably be to upgrade, of course < 1474495678 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :over applying the hacky patch < 1474495680 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i don't control this server. < 1474495770 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474495812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing < 1474495843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474495844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. his reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1474495946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1474496026 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anything in the wisdom database? < 1474496061 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ycwlxoiivcczgbyz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474496075 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474496395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Trying something... < 1474496436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474496448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing again < 1474496481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic, the problem doesn't appear if i don't use tmux. < 1474496576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1474496576 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474496579 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474496592 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I just pulled Debian's security update... (cf. https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2016/msg00251.html ) < 1474496685 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is trying to figure out whether oerjan is connected to irssi-0.8.20 in screen somehow, wondering whether this combination should be avoided. < 1474496761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm still on 0.8.17, using the bandaid script < 1474496774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not in screen either. < 1474496779 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1474496791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gave me trouble in tmux. < 1474496814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH, I missed a negation there, funny how that totally distorts the meaning of sentences... < 1474496907 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this negation: "[...] if i don't use tmux.") < 1474497062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION found the irc channel for the admins of this server. they seem a bit idle. < 1474497087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the one i'm running irssi from) < 1474497111 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any idlerpg bot running? :P < 1474497125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1474497151 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://idlerpg.net/ < 1474497180 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise it had a website < 1474497184 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474497212 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also seems a lot more involved than the typical idling competitions < 1474497282 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474497318 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474497329 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't < 1474497384 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: to clarify, I meant to ask oerjan whether there is such a bot in that channel he found. < 1474497421 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474497553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it. i'm the only one speaking. someone (who is also idle) opped me automatically when i joined. < 1474497595 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, idlerpg gives a much larger penalty for parts than for quits < 1474497599 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bizarre < 1474497640 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474497720 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has this been mentioned in the channel yet?: http://calesyta.xyz/ < 1474497725 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to proggit, it's an Argentinian esolang design contest < 1474497739 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Concurso Argentino de Lenguajes Esotéricos y Tarpits", right does seem like one… < 1474497780 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /part is almost definitely a manual action; quits also happen due to disconnects, reboots, etc. < 1474497811 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Valoramos que el lenguaje tenga ideas novedosas o interesantes. A nadie le interesa otra variante de Brainf*ck." < 1474497819 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but not getting disconnected is the whole point of idling competitions < 1474497889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :P < 1474497901 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474497922 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the people running this seem fairly familiar with esolang design :-D < 1474497950 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I guess parting a channel sends a much stronger message than quitting... not sure it's really saying as much as 200 characters of text though ;-) < 1474497986 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fit way more than 200 characters in a part message (or a quit message, for that matter) < 1474497990 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I really recall IdleRPG it because, as you said, it is surprisingly elaborate for an idling game. < 1474498009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it// < 1474498017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IdleMMORPG < 1474498019 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION typos too much, good night. < 1474498144 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474498264 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474498728 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474498931 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474499053 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474499082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474499223 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474499477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49751 5* 03Tanner Swett 5* (+3677) 10Create page < 1474499507 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474500009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49752&oldid=42677 5* 03Tanner Swett 5* (+449) 10/* Related languages */ Add "SMETANA To Infinity!" < 1474500040 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ͲhΞ g׀ǐČħ ϸ®ʘǵrҿssEs < 1474500706 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I've created SMETANA To Infinity! < 1474500707 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474500871 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number < 1474500890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474500938 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like SMETANA, but you can specify infinitely many instructions. < 1474500981 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an example program: < 1474501006 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step n. Go to step 3n + 1. Step 2n. Go to step n. Step 1. Go to step 1000000. Step 4. Stop. < 1474501145 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it choose the most specific step or how does it choose between Step 2n and Step n? < 1474501189 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It chooses whichever one was specified last within the program. < 1474501204 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Step 2n was specified later, it overwrites Step n for even n. < 1474501247 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Collatz conjecture is equivalent to the statement that my example halts if you replace 1000000 with any positive integer. < 1474501302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i claim approximate plagiarism hth < 1474501333 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i posted something called SMETANA+1 way back on the sange.fi mailing list) < 1474501376 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's so long ago it probably never happened < 1474501388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats olsner -----### < 1474501491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474501500 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how swatful of you < 1474501552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is there any way to make a good fizzbuzz with this using "step 3n", "step 5n"? < 1474501581 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda. < 1474501618 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step n. Output character n. Step 3n. Output character 101. Step 5n. Output character 102. Step 15n. Output character 103. Step 101. Stop. < 1474501647 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do a little better than that. < 1474501661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think my version required step expressions to be non-overlapping, though. < 1474501778 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step n. Swap step 1 with step 1. Step 2n. Output character n. Step 10n. Output character 102. Step 6n. Output character 101. Step 30n+1. Output character 102. Step 201. Stop. < 1474501780 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that.