< 1474502479 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474502547 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474502846 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it strikes me that a decimal conversion function would be fairly hard in that language < 1474502877 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474503091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suddenly realized you can do collatz functions with just GOTO there < 1474503115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that back in 2002 or when it was, i thought SWAP was necessary for TC-ness of it. < 1474503211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i had a version with more elaborate labels that even then i realized needed only GOTO) < 1474503317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the admin upgraded irssi on some of the servers, but not this one yet for some reason. going to bed -> < 1474503338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474504190 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504243 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474504248 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504263 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474504303 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504308 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504512 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504533 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504578 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504589 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\.$/ and rejecting scientific papers./' wisdom/peer < 1474504654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474504659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474504660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. his reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections and rejecting scientific papers. < 1474504668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474504850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just copy the joke at the beginning of the sentence < 1474506030 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474506264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh. < 1474506294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must have been added at some point < 1474506307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474506321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474506322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474506323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. his reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1474506346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe we mention how e serves on US juries as well?) < 1474506354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what someone can do is fix the awkward grammar < 1474506371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you don't need to stuff every flavor of ice cream into one cone. < 1474506378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/his/His/' wisdom/peer < 1474506381 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine... < 1474506381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474506388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474506389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. His reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1474506420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474506422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474506435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wisdom entry is lowercase on purpose. < 1474506441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did I miss something? < 1474506443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1474506461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for the obvious pun to set in < 1474506468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For ambiguity. < 1474506478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a discussion when oerjan first added it. < 1474506483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg peer | tac < 1474506484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-06-11 learn peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people\'s irc connections. \ 2016-09-15 slwd peer//s#.#. his reviews are in high demand, but# \ 2016-09-15 revert \ 2016-09-15 slwd peer//s#\\.#. his reviews are in high demand, but# \ 2016-09-21 ` s < 1474506541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are like an elephant in a china shop < 1474506559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH, is 'his' short for something? Probably "Health Information Service"? < 1474506569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Elephants wish they were this clumsy. < 1474506634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate reading IRC logs of myself. < 1474507071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Vrejvax14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49753&oldid=31396 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */ deadlink < 1474508254 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever I try a code line that fails, then another one which fails, and so on, I comment those lines with a label "N/G". And I keep those lines; so as to know what not to try again. Thus my source file is not "clean"---but it's hella powerful for maintenance/refactoring. < 1474508313 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1474508670 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuttobene: I don't think I've heard of that practice before. < 1474508744 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like rather than saying "I tried doing A, B, and C all together, and the combination didn't work", it would be more useful to say "do not do B, because that won't work". < 1474508776 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. From Don Knuth, if i remember correctly, idea of Literary programming. < 1474508889 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I'm pondering how you could convert 1-bit Brainfuck to SMETANA To Infinity!. < 1474508919 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes me do that is usually poorly written documentation. Because the only way to solve an ambiguity of definitions is to try the meanings of the thing. < 1474508943 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuttobene: literate programming? I think it's about interspersing a program with prose describing it < 1474508980 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, "Literate" programming < 1474508986 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC supports .lhs files where only programs starting with > (IIRC) are actually interpreted.. so basically the default mode is "comment" and you have to opt-in for code, rather than the other way around < 1474509015 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh ... the man was a genius < 1474509034 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :still is < 1474509043 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474509096 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinkin' you'd use the first part of memory to contain the BF program, and the remainder to contain the tape. Each tape cell would be realized as a few STI! memory cells. < 1474509125 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could keep track of the content using a couple of instructions like this: < 1474509158 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1000. Go to step 1. Step 1001. Go to step 2. < 1474509163 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to flip the memory cell, that's: < 1474509172 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1002. Swap step 1000 with step 1001. < 1474509201 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: doesn't that only let you flip a specific, hardcoded cell? rather than being able to index? < 1474509232 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, memory location 1002 will be only for flipping that one cell. < 1474509241 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to flip the cell at 2000, then jump to 2002 instead. < 1474509267 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474509303 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we could say... < 1474509315 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1474509321 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 3 always contains an instruction that means "Go to step [whichever one flips the current cell]". < 1474509333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm heavily reminded of The Amnesiac From Minsk < 1474509339 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 4 always says "Go to step [whichever one moves us left]", step 5 always says "go to step [whichever one moves us right]". < 1474509347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the basic issue is that once you've flipped a cell, you lose track of where you were < 1474509350 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474509365 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course you can work around this via holding the state that keeps track of the instruction pointer elsewhere < 1474509398 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And each BF tape cell contains code to swap something else into all of those places. < 1474509454 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474509477 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steps 1003, 1004, and 1005 could be the "storage locations" for the steps that are intended to be placed at locations 3, 4, and 5. < 1474509543 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1006 can be the "entry point" for flipping the current cell. It will look like... "Step 1006. Swap step 1000 with step 1001. Step 1007. Go to step 6." < 1474509597 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can say that step 6 is sort of the standard return location. < 1474509708 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with BF? < 1474509718 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If step 1008 is the entry point for moving right, it'll say something like... "Step 1008. Swap step 3 with step 1003. Step 1009. Swap step 2003 with step 3. Step 1010. Swap step 4 with step 1004. Step 1011. Swap step 2004 with step 4. Step 1012. Swap step 5 with step 1005. Step 1013. Swap step 2005 with step 5. Step 1014. Go to step 6." < 1474509729 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474509739 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuttobene: who said there was something wrong with it? < 1474509775 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1474509862 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1015 will be the entry point for moving left, and steps 1015 through 1021 will be analogous. But ignore the fact that the tape cell at step 1000 is the leftmost one... < 1474510131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see 'this statement is a lie' Fawlty Tower plotted < 1474510164 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474511072 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474511089 0 :moon__!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474511097 0 :64MAAZPA1!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474511170 0 :moonythedwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Changing host < 1474511170 0 :moonythedwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474511173 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrfgccrrobuvccxi QUIT : < 1474512603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!/brainfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49754 5* 03Tanner Swett 5* (+4378) 10Created page with "A tape of 1-bit memory cells can be implemented like this: # We assume that steps 1 through 6 are laid out like this: # # 1 through 3: The desired return location for an o..." < 1474513024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Calesyta 5* 10New user account < 1474513125 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it's the people behind the esolang contest < 1474513193 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine that. < 1474513221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale syta < 1474514216 0 :the-manless-man!~the-manle@181.23.56.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474514558 0 :moonythedwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474514584 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474515066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474515328 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474518251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474518485 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new isp blocks thepiratebay and a bunch of torrent related sites but i can still seed and download torrents < 1474518519 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somewhat harder to block BitTorrent itself. < 1474518547 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not impossible, but you need to do traffic analysis rather than just block some hosts or IP addresses. < 1474518724 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless10.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474518953 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474519952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should watch Growing a Language... < 1474519963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Which ISP do you have? < 1474519968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What country?) < 1474519969 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1474519971 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italy < 1474519974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474519983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your country's freedom laws are terrible < 1474519988 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're fine < 1474519992 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my isp sucks < 1474519996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ISPs should never, EVER be allowed to filter internet) < 1474520007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: The fact that the ISP can legally do that indicates a problem < 1474520044 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, but it's pretty common. < 1474520069 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can at least understand it with blocking port 25, though. < 1474520456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ahvzDzKdB0 (the talk where Guy Steele only let himself use 1-syllable words and n-syllable words defined in terms of previous words) < 1474520495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say he slipped up, then I remembered he defined plurals earlier < 1474520868 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.32.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474520922 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-phozfbxvsmqxbxei QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474521037 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.32.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474521571 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless10.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474524044 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474524085 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474524331 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474525063 0 :the-manless-man!~the-manle@181.23.56.184 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474526678 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474527058 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just found the best subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/PaidForWinRAR/ < 1474527181 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i was overly excited by the name but the actual posts aren't that funny < 1474527298 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474527541 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474527718 0 :64MAAZPA1!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474527939 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwiFl6w5fUE < 1474528060 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish vocals in a touhou song? what sorcery is this? < 1474528116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray for global cultural mixing! < 1474528473 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-evrtmpglxhzgalbw QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474528492 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xyvyojwchbbfdxnb JOIN :#esoteric < 1474528775 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474529377 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474529887 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474530282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have yet to encounter at my high school... in fact, I haven't encountered ANY students at school with any /semblance/ of power or even prestige) < 1474530478 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out real life is boring < 1474530524 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474530552 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474530926 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could someone show me what Unicode U+2055 character looks like in your system? < 1474530978 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁕ looks like an asterisk in my browser, and a replacement character in my terminal. < 1474531059 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacement char? something like a dash? < 1474531089 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, like U+FFFD < 1474531409 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. I get the asterisk in Gnome char mapper, but a dash in Vim. I think the problem is the font i use in Vim. < 1474531431 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DejaVu Sans Mono < 1474531572 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC seems ok: U+2055 ⁕ < 1474532598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474533901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474533967 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have that in my font < 1474533978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a eight pointed asterisk < 1474534302 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474534510 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474534598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I can't draw the correct character for U+2673 in 9x16, so I'm gonna draw it as プラ1 < 1474536378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474536863 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474536883 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:d80e:def1:3521:4056 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474539299 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 QUIT : < 1474543001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474543653 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474543660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1474543859 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1474544149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49755&oldid=49751 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+205) 10/* Computational class */ Thought of this yesterday. < 1474547089 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PROTECTED CHICKEN < 1474550499 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474551264 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474551661 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474551951 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474553223 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474553499 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474553593 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474555472 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474556614 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Quit: My microwave oven blew the fuse < 1474556652 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1474557055 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474557363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474559726 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474560223 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474560391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474561580 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474562200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 7,31,19,25,22,47,23,35,29 < 1474562201 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1474562324 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474562853 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474562869 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474563130 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474563674 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474563782 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474563788 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, \oren < 1474563794 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1474563798 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, \oren\ < 1474563832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the hangul glyphs in your font coming along? < 1474564035 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot back yet? < 1474564035 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: and what a kludgy hacks those were. mohkale sent me a fnord < 1474564054 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: WHAT? you call them kludgy hacks? < 1474564055 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: as opposed to a list of lists like ( ( a d) is not exactly a cml manual, but it < 1474564058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they weren't that bad < 1474564125 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"((a d)" does look like the start of a list of lists, but it was never finished < 1474564437 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, close that list < 1474564438 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: seems to be also noticeably slower than the native back end, was at transmeta and completely disconnected from scheme for several years despite having properly paid work too. < 1474564457 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :transmeta? < 1474564472 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where linus worked < 1474564509 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but how does that get in this fungot theme? < 1474564510 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: for an example. named-let replaces the need for lambda i am bit lost on how it was put up, i get down to bickering about do versus named let versus whatever else for the newton because dylan didn't fit right at the beginning < 1474564510 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were a CPU manufacturer, and wanted Linux to do well < 1474564524 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it would mean that there's be no particular reason not to switch your computer to a Transmeta CPU < 1474564550 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while Windows is the #1 OS, it gives something of an advantage to Intel and to a lesser extent AMD, making it harder for other CPU manufacturers to compete < 1474564637 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the part that making modern cpus is incredibly difficult and requires a lot of development cost paid up front before they can sell anything so only the largest companies can do it might also be part of it < 1474564710 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after a while everyone but intel and amd gave up making hardware x86 cpus, and amd is having a hard time catching up now too, intel might get the monopoly < 1474565017 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474565199 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: #scheme, 2006-12-27: Guillermo Rozas, who revived the C back end, was at Transmeta and completely disconnected from Scheme for several years. < 1474565247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: heh < 1474565253 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's where that's from < 1474566081 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHReqKRvonE you need to watch this video < 1474566566 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RRGH < 1474566626 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai \oren\, how's the hangul font coming? < 1474566649 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiots. the thing you stand on is a podium, from "pod" = foot. the thing you read your notes from is a lectern from "lectura" = read < 1474566682 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but noooo apparently americans call a lectern a podium < 1474566693 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it so upsetting? < 1474566705 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? would they really do that? < 1474566727 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost like calling diapers nappies < 1474566739 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or calling underwear pants < 1474566756 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's sort of working. I still need to convert back from my ad-hoc bitmap format to BDF < 1474566782 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1474566784 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shouldn't be hard < 1474566801 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the ad-hoc bitmap format is simply an array of 16 unsigneds, one for each row of pixels) < 1474566832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think I'll have it done by midnight today < 1474566835 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, then you don't even need to transpose < 1474566856 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just print it as hexadecimal and put some headers on it < 1474566863 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly reverse the bits or nibbles or bytes < 1474566867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially yes < 1474566893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard part was designeing the various forms for each jamo < 1474566898 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1474566902 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1474566916 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16x16 is just so small for this < 1474567052 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I'm using different line widths depending on what fits < 1474567070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might change to only thin lines, if that looks better < 1474567366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone calls a lift an "elevator", I'll find out if "overuse of description" is a crime. < 1474567421 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't "elevator" just the en_US name for them? < 1474567473 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, true. < 1474567712 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :cool, i can change the topic again | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1474567794 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh shiyut! Brian Pagliano, the guy who refused to come to a hearing, was held in contempt of congress. < 1474567824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he could serve jailtime for that < 1474567833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474567842 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1474567849 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"held in contempt of congress"? < 1474567865 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: he was served a subpoena to come and testify, but refused to show up < 1474567881 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is itself a crime < 1474567884 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474567890 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1474567899 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they call that "held in contempt of congress"? < 1474567904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "congress" even mean there? < 1474567939 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the hearing was before the House of Representatives, that is, the lower house of their parliament which they call "congress" < 1474567954 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474567962 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was summoned to the congress? < 1474567963 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1474567979 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, they wanted to ask him about erasing Hillary's emails < 1474568031 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're really driving the issue into the bedrock < 1474568037 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: source? I'd expect this to be all over Reddit because it's the sort of story they love, but I can't see it anywhere on the relevant front pages < 1474568059 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I watched them vote to fdo it about an hour ago < 1474568083 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivw1BDLpdaw < 1474568089 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdo? is that another extension of the monad do syntax? < 1474568092 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, the media probably haven't had a chance to write about it yet < 1474568112 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're faster than news sites here on #esoteric? no way < 1474568117 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, come on < 1474568121 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's almost completely offtopic < 1474568126 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also surprising < 1474568129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. i have an alert that tells me when the house is streaming on youtube < 1474568147 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd expect him to turn up and take the fifth repeatedly, given things that have happened so ar < 1474568149 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474568156 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I can see their governement tear itself apart in real time < 1474568169 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*far < 1474568186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately this probably raises the chances of Trump getting elected < 1474568191 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: two other people did show up and take the fifth repeatedly < 1474568224 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't even bother showing up, and sent a lawyer to say that he was taking the fifth. < 1474568243 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really something you're allowed to do unfortunately for him < 1474568263 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't the lawyer tell him that? < 1474568277 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, seriously, ignoring a summons to congress? how can he be that stupid? < 1474568287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he have so much money he's planning to disappear completely? < 1474568335 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they subpoena'ed the FBI last week. I think this is a show of power to tell the FBI that they can and will hold the entire FBI in contempt if necessary < 1474568365 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they asked to FBI for every scrap of paper they have on hillary clinton < 1474568388 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1474568393 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be a lot of papers < 1474568398 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1474568429 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were mad that the FBI only gave them some select documents that they thought would help < 1474568472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congress is Republican-controlled, right? they're probably looking for a scandal about hillary that they can use to help them win the election < 1474568473 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the FBI blacked out a bunch of names and emails from the files, which they werent suppose to < 1474568479 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1474568544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this entire thing is to undermine hillary, and they will probably continue to do it even if she wins < 1474568569 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1474568579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how politics always works < 1474568583 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said I want to watch the US governement tear itself apart in real time. because it's funny < 1474568618 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not funny < 1474568633 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny to me! I have a sane government < 1474568658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still not funny. it might have bad effects. < 1474568676 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately the US is large enough that it affects the world < 1474568686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1474568692 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1474568696 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the nethack devteam we're seriously debating whether US crypto export regulations prevent us using a good RNG < 1474568728 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haven't they changed those crypto export regulations five or ten years ago? < 1474568739 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes but they still aren't entirely removed < 1474568749 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with open source programs you're meant to send them a link to the repo, I think < 1474568758 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474568787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed source has tighter restrictions < 1474568788 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the limitation now only that you can't export anything to north korea and cuba and iran and whoever they think of embargoing, regardless of whether cryptography is even involved? < 1474568795 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1474568812 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently even the UK has a crypto export restriction, I can't remember the exact details < 1474568818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it's less restrictive than the US's < 1474568856 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep your server IN cuba, problem solved < 1474568857 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474568870 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the people with AES tattoos still can't travel on international airplanes? < 1474568883 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no good, then you still can't export to north korea < 1474568884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no laws about IMPORTing crypto FROM cuba right? < 1474568891 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I say keep your server in north korea instead < 1474568895 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no < 1474568896 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly sure how you can get an AES tattoo < 1474568897 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't work either < 1474568898 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be painful < 1474568907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of code < 1474568931 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think the US doesn't allow that either < 1474568939 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it does, I dunno < 1474568994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, this is news to me < 1474569003 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the US stopped with that thing < 1474569021 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, debian stopped having a separate repository for a version of debian with the crypto stuff stripped ages ago < 1474569055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, everybody who wants crypto will get crypto anyway < 1474569062 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: http://www.cryptolaw.org/cls2.htm#us < 1474569063 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like export restrictions actually mean anything < 1474569093 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that part isn't the problem < 1474569145 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling that the problem is that although if you exported crypto illegally you'd be fine, if another company's lawyers knew your company was exporting crypto, they'd get annoyed and make a fuss < 1474569160 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unrestricted crypto source code (like most "open source" software) and publicly available commercial source code (like "community source" code) can be exported to any end-user under a license exception without a technical review. BXA (BIS) must be given a copy or the URL of the source code. All other source code can be exported under license exception after a technial review to any non-government end-user. One may not, however, knowlingly export < 1474569162 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source code to a terrorist country, although source code may be posted on the WWW for downloading without the poster having to check whether it is downloaded from a terrorist country." < 1474569219 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, basically, they're marking off countries and saying they're "terrorist countries"? < 1474569237 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know where Trump got his lines from. < 1474569274 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just say "We are at war with country X, and we intend to take the land and add an extra state to America if we win." < 1474569315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is probably a bad idea for several reasons.) < 1474569378 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: by "terrorist coutry" they mean the countries where the terrorists buy military equipment from Russia, not from the US, so the US is pissed and sets embargoes against them so they can't buy weapons from the US later either. < 1474569743 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474569864 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On 7 January 2011, a minor amendment was made to the EAR (Federal Register Vol. 76, No. 5, p. 1059). Publicly available mass-market encryption object code software (with symmetric key length exceeding 64 bits), and publicly available encryption object code of which the corresponding source code falls under License Exception TSU (i.e., when the source code is publicly available), are no longer subject to the EAR. The amendment includes some minor < 1474569865 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specific revisions." < 1474569871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, /that/ seems like it's usable for NetHack < 1474570017 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm < 1474570020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the actual law behind it now, and it's confusing < 1474570122 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: he didn'tsay he'd take the land, just the oil under it. but it amounts to the same thing < 1474570225 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Europe probably still has stupid agreements remaining from the world war 2 peace treaties limiting producing weapons, and since back in the world war, armies actually used cryptography in wars, maybe it covers crypto stuff too < 1474570275 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: most of Europe uses the Wassenaar Arrangement < 1474570283 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is about things that have both civilian and military purposes < 1474570309 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: could you tell me what the connection to nethack is? < 1474570313 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"things that have both civilian and miliatry purposes" => that's about most things in the world < 1474570339 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ais523 distributes a cryptographic random generator with nethack4. < 1474570345 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: a random number generator can be used as a stream cipher, or vice versa < 1474570355 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's in the devteam now < 1474570360 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to remove various RNG exploits, the RNG needs to be powerful enough that it makes for a fairly good stream cipher < 1474570365 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1474570384 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, in fact, using an /actual/ stream cipher is probably better than trying to design one manually < 1474570397 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently when someon is held in contempt, they have the option to order the sergeant at arms to drag the person to the capitol in chains < 1474570423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this hasn't been done since 1937 but they could do it tomorrow if they wanted < 1474570425 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. and you can't just use a crypto random generator from the system libraries because DOS doesn't have one and nethack wants to ... no wait < 1474570426 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, in the UK it's spelled serjeant at arms for some reason (even though "serjeant" is not a real word in any other context) < 1474570441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they normally do nothing, but one time a protester broke into the house of commons < 1474570446 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have to go through a coury in that case < 1474570451 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the serjeant at arms actually drew his sword on the protester < 1474570459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can just vote to jail the guy < 1474570459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that sounds awesome < 1474570470 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think that he'd been waiting for years for that opportunity < 1474570485 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada's sergeant at arms shot a terrorist a while ago < 1474570498 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kevin vickers < 1474570536 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Texck-TbkM < 1474570553 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GofES3-TzJw <- better video < 1474570620 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trigger wrning: steven colbert < 1474570677 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on another point, what should i add to the df like after hauling and a workshop system works fine? i will add the concept of rooms next, but i have no clear line after that < 1474570693 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when this channel wasn't about politics? those were good times... < 1474570713 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474570719 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474570758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Some sort of device that counts the other devices directly adjacent to it (horizontally, diagonally and vertically), < 1474570772 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: what for? < 1474570773 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: add pots and barrels and other containers < 1474570782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: this channel is very rarely about esolangs, unfortunately < 1474570785 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer it when it is though < 1474570804 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have barrels and you can brew with seeds (because of lack of plants :D) < 1474570808 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point, I don't really feel comfortable declaring anything in particular offtopic unless it's problematic for another reason, because it's hard to deduce what the topic of the channel even /is/ < 1474570809 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the amount is less than 2, the device should self-destruct, if the amount is more than 3, it should self-destruct, and if there is a space in the area with exactly 3 neighbors, < 1474570816 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should create a new device there. < 1474570843 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: i see what you did there < 1474570844 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just copied from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life ) < 1474570847 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that sounds more like a good behaviour for a monster < 1474570851 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, ais523: about dragging in chains or pulling the sword, https://stickman.qntm.org/comics.php?n=622 is relevant < 1474570853 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: people who put random game of life impls into their sandbox games normally don't have a large enough playfield to do anything much more interesting than a glider gun < 1474570854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: but that would probably be abused < 1474570875 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But for a df-like? < 1474570878 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474570896 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even have a wannebe dwarf therapist inside < 1474570897 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how large is the actively tracked portion of the world? < 1474570910 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monster that can't move, but simulates a cellular automaton would be fun < 1474570952 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captain! We're being attacked by a wild glider! < 1474570967 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently my levels are 60x80, i am.not sure how high i should put it < 1474570968 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally there would be several species having different rules < 1474570980 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ressources are kind of a concern in smartphones < 1474571013 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's pentominoized the right LWSS forward transferral system!) < 1474571014 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will get tricky when i come to actual monsters < 1474571025 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i don't reallygot army in df :D < 1474571043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I've wanted to create a competitive game set inside the Game of Life universe for a while < 1474571048 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but couldn't figure out a good way to do it < 1474571059 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cubicon comes closer; that's more of an MMO set inside a cellular automaton < 1474571079 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is cubicon < 1474571095 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm still not entirely sure the rules are right (especially wrt things like whether there should be a speed of light limit), and I have no clue how to impl it < 1474571106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: a 3D cellular-automaton-like I was working on < 1474571114 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474571117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know most of the basic rules but there are various interactions I'm not sure on how they should work < 1474571124 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474571138 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all cellular automatons have a speed of light limit, don't they? < 1474571141 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just might be higher < 1474571159 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I said cellular-automaton-like < 1474571225 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I was considering was making it into a true automaton < 1474571225 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still need someone to make graphics for me :( < 1474571229 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that might make it a bit less realistic < 1474571368 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474571560 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: try using a DF-like ascii art for now < 1474571592 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually try to make it usable :D < 1474571818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Items may be controlled as encryption items even if the encryption is actually performed by the operating system, an external library, a third-party product or a cryptographic processor. If an item uses encryption functionality, whether or not the code that performs the encryption is included with the item, then BIS evaluates the item based on the encryption functionality it uses." < 1474571820 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1474571861 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's at least consistent, it bites backwards too < 1474571876 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474571897 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this means that a huge proportion of software can't legally be exported from the US without a license < 1474571900 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "and that export of non-key recovery financial-specific cryptography is allowed if it can by design only be used for financial applications" < 1474571921 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you even imagine cryptography designed to only be used for financial applications? < 1474571941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ship it in object code form with a financial application < 1474571943 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be like guns designed only for sport or only for hunting deer < 1474571957 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIS seems to assume that nobody will decompile or modify the products that are shipped < 1474572050 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like they care for the end products, not the algorithm < 1474572067 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's how it worked, then nethack probably wouldn't be affected, because it's clearly not designed to do cryptography < 1474572079 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean what crazy esolanger would use nethack to implement a cryptography application? < 1474572104 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be like using TeX to implement one < 1474572109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Software A writes to a file system. That file system might be encrypted..." < 1474572115 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) The primary function or set of functions is not any of the following: (1) "Information security"; (2) A computer, including operating systems, parts and components therefor; (3) Sending, receiving or storing information (except in support of entertainment, mass commercial broadcasts, digital rights management or medical records management); or (4) Networking (includes operation, administration, management and < 1474572117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :provisioning); (b) The cryptographic functionality is limited to supporting their primary function or set of functions; and (c) When necessary, details of the items are accessible and will be provided, upon request, to the appropriate authority in the exporter’s country in order to ascertain compliance with conditions described in paragraphs (a) and (b) above. < 1474572163 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the relevant exemption, but NetHack may fall afoul of (a)(2) and possibly (c) < 1474572193 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "limited to supporting" mean? < 1474572198 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you limit cryptography? < 1474572222 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me, I didn't write that rule! < 1474572229 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think the rule is fairly incomprehensible < 1474572239 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1474573037 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474573230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/smlist | rot13 < 1474573240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ funpuns \ zbadl \ ryyvbgg \ zabdl < 1474573249 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474573264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: If you want to sign up for super mega notifications, you can `` echo Cale >> bin/smlist < 1474573293 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns :D < 1474573317 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Cale >> bin/smlist < 1474573320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474573349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly olist for oots notifications and so on < 1474573352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*list* < 1474573353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/aglist \ bin/bardsworthlist \ bin/danddreclist \ bin/dontaskdonttelllist \ bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist \ bin/ehlist \ bin/emptylist \ bin/erflist \ bin/FireFlist \ bin/flist \ bin/idealist \ bin/ioccclist \ bin/keenlist \ bin/list \ bin/listen \ bin/listlist \ bin/llist \ bin/makelist \ bin/makelistlist \ bin/makelistlist shachaf \ bin/minimalist < 1474573366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot more entries than i expected < 1474573382 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minima-list < 1474573390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: You might chet out `list < 1474573395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty good. < 1474573396 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm really curious as to what the listlist is < 1474573411 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you almost baited me into starting a line with `list then :-P < 1474573429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? listlist < 1474573431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :listlist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474573441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin, not wisdom < 1474573441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a notification list for when people add new lists maybe? < 1474573453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but some lists have wisdom entries to match describing what they are. < 1474573458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/listlist < 1474573459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ set -e \ export LANG=C \ cd /hackenv/bin;exec ls -dF *[lL]ist* < 1474573470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just a list of lists. < 1474573475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listlist < 1474573476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist* \ aglist* \ bardsworthlist* \ danddreclist* \ don'taskdon'ttelllist@ \ dontaskdonttelllist* \ ehlist* \ emptylist* \ erflist* \ flist* \ idealist* \ ioccclist* \ keenlist* \ list* \ listen* \ listlist* \ llist* \ makelist* \ makelistlist* \ makelistlist shachaf* \ minimalist* \ mlist* \ olist* \ pbflist* \ slist* \ smlist* \ stylist* \ t < 1474573494 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you expect it to be? < 1474573507 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:44 I think it was a notification list for when people add new lists maybe? < 1474573514 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists < 1474573554 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised that that page can reasonably be considered Wikipedia's index < 1474573571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/makelistlist shachaf < 1474573573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-14 makelist makelistlist shachaf < 1474573584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/makelistlist < 1474573585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ shachaf < 1474573586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/makelistlist shachaf < 1474573587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit < 1474573594 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way. Wikipedia's index is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages < 1474573594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/makelistlist shachaf < 1474573598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474573610 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well I guess it is in alphabetical order… < 1474573617 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Special:PrefixIndex has "index" in its name < 1474573630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz (who isn't in this channel anymore, I guess) once added https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Self-reference to itself < 1474573636 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AllPages has a better interface than PrefixIndex < 1474573637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the edit got reverted. < 1474573639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, allpages is conceptually a special case of prefixindex, I'm not sure why it exists a separate page < 1474573642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems illegitimate to me. < 1474573654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: better interface < 1474573676 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can type a place to start to allpages, but it doesn't cut off after that prefix < 1474573886 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fungot t-shirt arrived! < 1474573886 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: freebsd env wc -c says so :p. google did indeed have sufficient context < 1474574000 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although admittedly, AllPages has a very stupid bug that PrefixIndex doesn't: if you invoke AllPages with a prefix after a slash like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages/t then trying to use the form to choose a different prefix fails in a confusing way. < 1474574058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, you can't use PrefixIndex to start listing from a given word and continue after that prefix < 1474574061 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sucks < 1474574067 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so AllPages is definitely better < 1474574077 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: t-shirt? < 1474574086 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I got this freebie custom t-shirt code from a thing, so I made one that has fungot's babble-generation code and an esolangs.org ad on it. < 1474574087 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, a bf program that could deal with the win32 registry? " nice" multiline fnord hugging/ ascii art scripts. :p fnord/ cfs/ fnord/ rotterdam, perhaps leiden, as well < 1474574093 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lines 125-169 of https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1474574094 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ manual/ s48manual.html and http://www.scsh.net/ docu/ html/ guile-user/ 2003-10/ msg00076.html, but in the end < 1474574127 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks pretty nice. I'll take a picture of it at some point. < 1474574134 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, they're using an Enigma machine to crack the hieroglyph cipher < 1474574134 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: missing cases for the ' ..u.s' word, and large bodies of code are. < 1474574218 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time, there was normal programming... then there was functional programming... now, there is structured programming < 1474574244 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A punctuation control triangle falls from the sky.) < 1474574305 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't recall what I was thinking when I thought it needed to be a triangle. < 1474574312 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A comb would have been so much more space-efficient. < 1474574330 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe you had a premonition of a t-shirt. < 1474574342 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your t-shirt has an awesome triangle on it. < 1474574360 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. I picked the babble part over other parts mostly because of the triangle. < 1474574478 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474574508 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xyvyojwchbbfdxnb QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474574636 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would have problems if they had a list of lists that don't include themselves. < 1474574697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :list of lists that include this list < 1474574699 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A list of lists that don't include themselves would contain at least everything that is a list but is not a list of lists. < 1474574738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would also contain lists of lists in the particular case that the list of lists does not include itself. < 1474574758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it could include the original list, < 1474574762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, but there would be an eternal edit war over whether it should include itself < 1474574774 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obvious. < 1474574777 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would not. < 1474574796 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it does not include itself, it is more factually correct than if it includes itself. < 1474574810 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike the P=NP problem, it can just be considered missing documentation. < 1474574826 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it includes itself, it is a factual error. < 1474574854 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1474574856 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not P=NP. < 1474574867 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd I get that confused... < 1474574874 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, what's the whole "set of all sets" thing called? < 1474574876 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1474574894 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beleive its the goedel problem < 1474574907 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russell's paradox < 1474574911 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not 100% sure on spelling) < 1474574914 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. That. < 1474574936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that < 1474574944 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get the point. Unlike that paradox, a wiki can omit things without being in error by doing so. < 1474574971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just "out of date", and it can remain "intentionally out of date" eternally. < 1474575009 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it would have a note at the top saying so "to avoid paradox, this list does not include itself, despite being incomplete by doing so" < 1474575035 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would work. < 1474575036 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :List of lists that are incomplete to avoid paradox < 1474575045 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The alternative, including the list in itself, is an actual factual error. < 1474575093 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real issue occurs when you also create a list of lists NOT in the list of lists that do not include themselves. < 1474575103 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474575168 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I have an idea: what if there was a language where the standard library is on a wiki < 1474575246 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, using edge cases of the functions will require winning an edit war < 1474575251 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tvbsnjxstqcppczg JOIN :#esoteric < 1474575267 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION edits io.print to delete the user's filesystem < 1474575280 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki needs to be actually interpreted by the interp in that case < 1474575280 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches as the hypothetical wiki deletes itself < 1474575289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: perhaps we'll need to enable pending changes :-D < 1474575299 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But then there's no point < 1474575554 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may as well put it on a git repo if you have change authorization < 1474577763 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474578017 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474578718 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:d80e:def1:3521:4056 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474578874 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474579000 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474580145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a preview of the generated hangul glyphs. I haven't yet figured it out perfectly: http://www.orenwatson.be/hangulgeneratedtext.htm < 1474580228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see, there are still a few collisions. I might just adjust particular glyphs manually < 1474580300 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're about to close 191 tabs. continue? oh shit firefox i'm so sorry i didn't mean to hurt you so much < 1474580368 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certain of the vowels are colliding a lot. I will change those < 1474580490 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474580543 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the preview is drawn using block brawing characters < 1474580545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⠛⠛⠛⠛█▄ ██⠛⠛⠛█▄ < 1474580545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ██⠛⠛⠛⠛ ██ ██ < 1474580545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛ ⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛ < 1474580548 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1474581627 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474581892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474582186 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ycwlxoiivcczgbyz QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1474582219 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474582767 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474582799 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a math symbol for "is defined as a generalization of"? 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's U+225D EQUAL TO BY DEFINITION, if that counts. < 1474583921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I'm on the wrong side of this split. < 1474583941 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN 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:Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583987 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's U+225D EQUAL TO BY DEFINITION, if that counts. < 1474583995 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474583998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, but it has to allow generalization < 1474584013 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474584020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, is there a generalization of big-sigma summation that allows- where gsumm is the name of the generalization- a*b := gsumm(1, b, λ _ -> a) < 1474584032 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oecitbvespbopssh QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1474584042 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584050 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584060 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tvbsnjxstqcppczg JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584060 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a generalization. < 1474584092 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584092 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584092 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, but we're including when a and b aren't integers < 1474584120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, obviously you could just say in this case that if b isn't an integer, you take it with the floor of b and add one more a multiplied by the nonintegral part of b) < 1474584130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I'm going for any sort of general case) < 1474584172 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584299 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luhmkilguxdqgvlm QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474584897 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why braille instead of ▀? < 1474585008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's generalized about gsumm? < 1474585115 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474585215 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474585265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474585366 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: whoops < 1474585546 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1474585718 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofympzqsxyjtvbbg JOIN :#esoteric < 1474586002 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czurebiicjiujowa JOIN :#esoteric < 1474586360 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474586449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474588738 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds