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12 30-day months (plus a 5- or 6-day festival week), 5 6-day weeks to a month <-- i think i've seen at least the first part somewhere... < 1473121704 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473121739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is bothered by week numbers, specifically by people using them when he has no idea when they are.
< 1473121744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're thinking of 13 28-day months? < 1473121795 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think you could have seen both < 1473121814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one is pretty good. < 1473121894 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the French Republican Calendar has 12 months with 30 days each plus 5 or 6 extra days outside of months per year, but it's not the first one to get that idea < 1473121992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]> A list shuffle is just a sort where the comparison function is λ(x, y): return coinflip(); <-- that doesn't actually work right, statistically. < 1473122033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Depends on your sorting algorithm. < 1473122041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly a lot of them assume transitivity. < 1473122069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use bogosort, it'll work correctly (but in 2^n time). < 1473122076 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, actually, non-transitive comparisons are interesting: < 1473122134 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, I wish some programming language libraries provided an interface for a balanced tree (and sort) ordered on a custom sorting routine that need not be transitive, < 1473122139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not sure if it's 2^n, as- in my understanding of bogosort- you just shuffle the list and check if it's sorted < 1473122147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If yes, yay, if not, try again < 1473122151 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1473122169 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means getting n coin flips to return true. < 1473122177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you mean that it's 2^(n-1)? < 1473122191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it cannot work correctly with any method that uses a bounded number of coin flips. < 1473122218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it's sorting a list of length 2? < 1473122224 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the guarantee that two elements will be ordered consistently if they're in separate strong components of the comparison function, but not necessarily if they're in different strong components. < 1473122234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ignores shachaf's last comment.
< 1473122256 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they should probably allow that comparison functions might depend on state, with similar guarantees. < 1473122271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scourgean < 1473122296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the lower bound search function in the tree can find any place within the strong component of what you're searching for. < 1473122371 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far I haven't seen any library that documents that it guarantees almost anything for an inconsistent or non-transitive comparison function, even though I think some _implementations_ might actually already guarantee this, and it wouldn't be hard to do so in most implementations < 1473122382 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it without overhead usually. < 1473122398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think that you can't even use the direct coinflip function; you need to either let the coinflip directly determine if you're done (O(2^-n), I think) < 1473122418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or first chain it into something to check (which, yes, would be O(2^n). I think.) < 1473122429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you're saying. < 1473122437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor why oerjan is ignoring my last comment. < 1473122440 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not every implementation supports inconsistent comparison functions, that's true, but still, the best ones do. < 1473122448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because it's too trivial an objection. < 1473122465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we could use time traveling computing, would algorithms be allowed to have negative O-time? < 1473122499 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473122503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are there any conventional algorithms completing in O(k) time for which k shrinks? < 1473122503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it true just for 2 elements or for any power of 2? < 1473122510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or O(sin(x)) algorithms? < 1473122529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only 2 i think. 3 is always a factor of n! for n > 2. < 1473122545 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of algorithms will be O(sin(x))? < 1473122545 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can certainly end up with things like O(1/n) when talking about e.g. amortized algorithms. < 1473122560 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1473122589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( this ignoring is going well, isn't it ) < 1473122597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's the question < 1473122608 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473122609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I don't know. < 1473122629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring ring ring ring ring ring ring / banana phone < 1473122632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling if you did have an O(sin(x)) algorithm, it'd just get simplified to O(1) < 1473122649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin(x) = A(1) < 1473122752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think it's impossible for k to shrink for arbitrarily large data, because to be bounded it cannot actually _check_ beyond a certain portion of the data, which prevents it from shrinking below the minimum for that amount. < 1473122766 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473122772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1473122818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with time travel-based computation, could a problem have a complexity of e.g. O(-n^2)? < 1473122842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ring < 1473122843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them. < 1473122876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure the banana phone can fit in there. < 1473122940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This algorithm completes in O(chr(n)) time" < 1473122958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chr? < 1473122969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 65 < 1473122972 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'A' < 1473122988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's a characteristic function, obviously. < 1473122997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1473123093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean the chr that lambdabot used < 1473123131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write O(f) in computer science, f : N -> N is positive and increasing. < 1473123260 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473123261 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type ~>help for all commands, and ~>help for help on a command. < 1473123261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is O(3^n) allowed, or do all O(k^n)s just reduce to O(2^n)?) < 1473123267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :polybot: No. < 1473123275 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1473123279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, whose bot is this? < 1473123281 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who invited the bot? < 1473123282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: You? < 1473123286 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1473123286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1473123363 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone kick it :/ < 1473123378 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting and stuff < 1473123403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know which bot it is < 1473123407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>help < 1473123407 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :commmands: < 1473123411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :None < 1473123415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a new one < 1473123416 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks broken. < 1473123424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: I think it's somebody's new bot < 1473123429 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1473123444 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The identification says it is Node.js based and is apparently on Google's server. < 1473123459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1473123470 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wierd < 1473123477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A public googlian server or, like, the thing Google itself runs on? < 1473123488 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most likely public. < 1473123515 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1473123532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>who < 1473123550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googleusercontent < 1473123556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So public < 1473123565 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473123569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And gone < 1473123575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whose was it? < 1473123581 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1473123582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Yours? < 1473123595 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1473123602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Was polybot yours? < 1473123604 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473123604 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type ~>help for all commands, and ~>help for help on a command. < 1473123614 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :annnd its back < 1473123635 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>help < 1473123635 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :commmands: ping, info, waitforMsgtest, talk, cat, art, solvefor, solve, done < 1473123641 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something changed. < 1473123641 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], nah if I had a bot it'd support CTCP < 1473123648 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/shrug < 1473123650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Did you add polybot? < 1473123651 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if coding in c... o(n) o(n2), but it < 1473123652 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Compute Engine has addresses like that. < 1473123656 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there are some more command at least < 1473123665 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>help solve < 1473123672 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1473123674 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve < 1473123674 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invalid solver undefined, valid solvers are math.js, algebra.js and mathics < 1473123689 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1473123691 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>info < 1473123691 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polybot v1.0.0 < 1473123695 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless < 1473123706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if there is information on npm possibly? < 1473123713 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js < 1473123714 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1473123724 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js asdf what do you do? < 1473123724 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [SyntaxError: Unexpected end of expression (char 21)] char: 21 } < 1473123726 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no package on npm called "polybot" anyways it seem < 1473123743 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 1+1 < 1473123743 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1473123746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are any of these us: https://github.com/orgs/tjcsl/people < 1473123746 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>hcf < 1473123750 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a calculator. < 1473123752 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1473123758 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1473123764 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :refuses to catch on fire, apparently < 1473123792 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :leme look up math.js < 1473123796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: But probably an ultra-mega-badass one that does, like, solving the Riemann hypothesis < 1473123802 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], I know fwilson < 1473123814 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathjs.org < 1473123818 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I doubt they have anything to do with it < 1473123818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Personally or heard of? < 1473123819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve reimann_hypothesis < 1473123819 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invalid solver reimann_hypothesis, valid solvers are math.js, algebra.js and mathics < 1473123826 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], personally < 1473123832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: IRL or online? < 1473123835 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :online < 1473123838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js < 1473123838 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1473123843 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we talk a lot tho < 1473123843 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a rather good calculator apparently. < 1473123847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Does fwilson know about #esoteric? < 1473123852 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js f() = 1+1; f() < 1473123852 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2] < 1473123853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 2+5 < 1473123853 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1473123873 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>prexcl 3f println test < 1473123874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve algebra.js x = 5+3 < 1473123874 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot convert undefined or null to object] < 1473123878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]> (Is O(3^n) allowed, or do all O(k^n)s just reduce to O(2^n)?) <-- they're not equivalent. < 1473123885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK < 1473123892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve algebra.js x=5+3 < 1473123892 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot convert undefined or null to object] < 1473123899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve algebra.js x x=5+3 < 1473123899 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot convert undefined or null to object] < 1473123905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve algebra.js x==5+3 < 1473123905 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'toString' of undefined] < 1473123911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1473123914 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard of algebra.js, its a literal, actually rather bad, calculator. < 1473123922 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473123948 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js sqrt(i) < 1473123948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473123948 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.7071067811865476 + 0.7071067811865476i < 1473123950 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], well fwilson isn't even online atm < 1473123961 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it can do complex/imaginary numbers < 1473123967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js '5'+'3' < 1473123967 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [SyntaxError: Value expected (char 1)] char: 1 } < 1473123977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 3/0 < 1473123977 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinity < 1473123980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRONG < 1473123984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 0/0 < 1473123985 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaN < 1473123988 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does floats, nice < 1473123998 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imaginary numbers make it even better. < 1473124005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: I think doing floats is the bare minimum for a decent calculator < 1473124010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The complexes are more impressive < 1473124015 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you mix floats and complexes? < 1473124025 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sqrt(i) happens < 1473124025 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i/0 < 1473124029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: It returned a mix of floats and complexes to sqrt(i) < 1473124031 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js i/0 < 1473124032 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinityi < 1473124037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, why not < 1473124039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 0^0 < 1473124039 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1473124040 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imaginary infinity. wrong. < 1473124054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if it does quaternions < 1473124062 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ +1 < 1473124066 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imaginary infinity? Wrong? < 1473124070 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 2+3i+5j+7k < 1473124070 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Error: Undefined symbol j] < 1473124074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail < 1473124076 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bot invaded the channel. < 1473124086 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens to be a rather good calculator. < 1473124092 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js sqrt(i) < 1473124092 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.7071067811865476 + 0.7071067811865476i < 1473124096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: A half-decent calculator at best < 1473124103 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ +1 < 1473124119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GOOD calculator would be able to do quaternions, surreals, split-complex, duals, and Kleene Algebra < 1473124122 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js Riemann(sin,5,6,7) < 1473124122 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0.7238935268566056 < 1473124124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need to leave for now. < 1473124133 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk bye < 1473124142 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js (1,1,1) + (3,3,3) < 1473124142 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [SyntaxError: Parenthesis ) expected (char 3)] char: 3 } < 1473124154 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js (1;1;1) + (3;3;3) < 1473124154 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [SyntaxError: Parenthesis ) expected (char 3)] char: 3 } < 1473124157 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fuck you < 1473124161 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't do vectors < 1473124162 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sovle [1,1,1] + [3,3,3] < 1473124171 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [1,1,1] + [3,3,3] < 1473124171 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4, 4, 4] < 1473124176 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1473124194 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those vectors tho? < 1473124194 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :try checking the math.js Documentation APNG < 1473124203 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_, eh too lazy < 1473124205 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It apparently knows what a matrix is, at least < 1473124215 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js gamma(5) < 1473124215 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 < 1473124228 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the matrix multiplication working? < 1473124230 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js gamma(5i) < 1473124230 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2.717038835061503e-4 + 3.399328988721386e-4i < 1473124248 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [6,7] * [7,6] < 1473124248 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :84 < 1473124262 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1473124271 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [5,6,7] * [7,6,5] < 1473124271 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :106 < 1473124277 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [5,6,7] * [7,6,5i] < 1473124277 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :71 + 35i < 1473124284 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [5,6,7] * [7,6i^7,5i] < 1473124284 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :35 - i < 1473124300 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [5,6;7,8] * [2,3] < 1473124300 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[28, 38] < 1473124308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [5,6;7,8] * [2,3;4,5] < 1473124308 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[34, 45], [46, 61]] < 1473124308 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its actually a decent calculator. < 1473124325 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js [5,6;7,8] * [1,0;0,1] < 1473124325 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[5, 6], [7, 8]] < 1473124330 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it does work. < 1473124335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot got killed < 1473124335 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do vectors >.> < 1473124354 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473124357 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: at least it knows what a mathmatical function is < 1473124369 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js f(x) = x^3 < 1473124369 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) < 1473124372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473124384 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js f(4) # lets see if its presistant < 1473124384 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 < 1473124389 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its presistant < 1473124420 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats nice to know. < 1473124458 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to presistance we _might_ be able to make a turing machine/state machine in it < 1473124501 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathjs.org/docs/reference/functions.html < 1473124521 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a list of all things it supports, i think its extended tho, Riemann is not a default function in math.js < 1473124526 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not fwilson's < 1473124597 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js inv([[5, 6], [7, 8]]) < 1473124598 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[-4, 3], [3.5, -2.5]] < 1473124643 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 12 inches to feet < 1473124643 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.9999999999999998 feet < 1473124651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*persistence < 1473124658 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js sqrt(i)/0 < 1473124658 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinity + Infinityi < 1473124661 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 82 < 1473124662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 82: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1473124704 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its actually pretty good for a IRC bot with a calculator < 1473124706 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>help < 1473124706 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :commmands: ping, info, waitforMsgtest, talk, cat, art, solvefor, solve, done < 1473124713 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>done < 1473124717 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. < 1473124735 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>waitforMsgtest < 1473124738 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. < 1473124738 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said: Nothing. < 1473124740 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>cat < 1473124740 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lorempixel.com/600/100/cats/ < 1473124743 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh nvm. < 1473124744 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>art < 1473124744 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lorempixel.com/100/600/abstract/ < 1473124751 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1473124754 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473124782 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>talk < 1473124782 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ 12 foot < 1473124783 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning. < 1473124788 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>talk 231234 < 1473124789 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In che anno e iniziata la prima guerra mondiale. < 1473124796 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1473124804 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just a damn cleverbot command. < 1473124807 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't know what it is. < 1473124809 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless++; < 1473124810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :polybot: 1914 hth < 1473124834 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing thats actually useful here is the calculator (~>solve math.js) < 1473124836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>talk 986430 < 1473124837 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rispondi. < 1473124841 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve mathics 1+1 < 1473124844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: is it yours? < 1473124845 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In[1]:= 1+1Out[1]= 2 < 1473124855 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve mathics Integrate[1+1] < 1473124857 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In[1]:= Integrate[1+1]Out[1]= Integrate[2] < 1473124869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seems a little on the botspammy side. < 1473124875 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ +1 < 1473124885 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it calculates 12 inches * x cm/inches / y cm/foot < 1473124904 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMaybe < 1473124949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma useless < 1473124949 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless has a karma of 0 < 1473124974 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, this is polybot's owner. < 1473124992 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like fucking bot owners < 1473124993 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1473124996 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may I fuck you? < 1473125002 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh.. wtf. < 1473125006 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1473125027 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf APNG < 1473125045 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_, lol, just playing with the bot < 1473125059 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not a bot, im the owner of it speaking through it < 1473125072 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :polybot, right... < 1473125075 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look like a bot < 1473125088 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye. < 1473125099 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1473125123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: you may have been a _tad_ impolite there hth < 1473125131 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just say "goodbye" and keep the stupid bot in the channel >.> < 1473125170 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js 1+1 < 1473125170 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1473125192 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, my job is to just remove the bot from the channel somehow < 1473125260 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js "Te\r\nQUIT\r\nst" < 1473125260 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TeQUITst" < 1473125261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: i don't see the bot as disruptive enough to remove, yet. it's mostly just responding to people's commands. < 1473125285 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>solve math.js "Does this work? \7" < 1473125285 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, mostly < 1473125285 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Does this work? " < 1473125290 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hello, this is polybot's owner. < 1473125295 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for those < 1473125309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: well that counts as human. < 1473125317 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473125333 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why's it going through the bot? < 1473125340 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :owner's banned or something? < 1473125365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: well that's _possible_ of course, but it also just be the mystery. < 1473125382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: myndzi is being disruptive by not adding bodies tdnh < 1473125404 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, seems easier to just remove it < 1473125417 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this room is already packed, full of esoteric madness and sanity < 1473125456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1473125456 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: it really doesnt. < 1473125457 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. < 1473125465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1473125469 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1473125480 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_, /kick is easier than figuring out who's behind it < 1473125492 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to make up the "esoteric programming" block of Magic: the Gathering cards? < 1473125499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: You're being far more disruptive than the bot. < 1473125509 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473125513 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, how? < 1473125521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, you're being rude to the bot. < 1473125524 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1473125526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or its owner. < 1473125532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_ is second-most disruptive. < 1473125539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably third. < 1473125540 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bot .-. < 1473125554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were being a jerk anyway. < 1473125561 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs his silver metal for being second most disruptive
< 1473125593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good luck piece? < 1473125640 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION awaits the earning of the almighty string loop metal
< 1473125647 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, our internet is entirely down. Apparently there's an ongoing 6-hour maintenance window right now nobody saw fit to mention to us. < 1473125649 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp *medal < 1473125660 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1473125671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Whose? < 1473125724 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can you give your opinion in the bot that popped up randomly recently, polybot? < 1473125797 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Either BT or my ISP (zen.co.uk), I can't quite tell from their status page. < 1473125824 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's been a bunch previously as well, but this is the first one that actually took things down. < 1473125837 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably they're actually doing something this time. < 1473125848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. i'm actually logging #esoteric. < 1473125863 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473125870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i had specifically told irssi to log only privmsg < 1473125875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it left. < 1473125884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1473125906 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473125907 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type ~>help for all commands, and ~>help for help on a command. < 1473125933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :polybot: i think the join message is unnecessary hth < 1473125957 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473125986 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473126002 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then, that proves the owner is listening. < 1473126091 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :polybot, stop making fwilson look bad, change the bot's name < 1473126129 0 :polybot!~nodebot@225.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it make fwilson look bad? < 1473126147 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :polybot, fwilson made a bot called polybot 3 or so years ago < 1473126152 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1473126170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*nodebot@*.147.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com < 1473126171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric :polybot < 1473126187 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw it comeing. < 1473126193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1473126208 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, who? < 1473126227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How can you tell? < 1473126230 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473126233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: our channel's most insistently returning troll < 1473126247 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt its hagb4rd < 1473126257 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no proof < 1473126266 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hmm... < 1473126269 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that insistent imho < 1473126277 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't seem to have signed their work... < 1473126284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1473126289 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how can you be so sure? < 1473126292 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473126306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting question. i don't wish that to be generally known hth < 1473126316 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free until proven guilty < 1473126328 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1473126336 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pure guesswork, i bet oerjan < 1473126336 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience, the ppl usually considered trolls tend to sign their work < 1473126370 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, "work" < 1473126405 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, proof is needed. otherwise it can be considered a unfair ban. < 1473126409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: hagb4rd has never done that. < 1473126414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No proof is needed. < 1473126444 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe hagb4rd is oerjan's alter ego < 1473126447 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere else we have somebody in therapy who is joining at least twice a weak holding huge monologues insulting any possible human < 1473126452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAWAT* < 1473126518 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the next episode, oerjan turns out to be the polybot author and it was all some sort of crafty scheme. < 1473126521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: myndzi is being disruptive by not adding bodies tdnh <-- tru. < 1473126530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1473126532 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh ok < 1473126535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1473126542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473126543 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also plurals are cool < 1473126547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1473126548 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1473126553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Oh, how are plurals cool? < 1473126561 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it takes two bots to party < 1473126616 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], well they're forced to deal with so much crap that I find them cool < 1473126633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1473126642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer pluralal consistency < 1473126646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oxes < 1473126648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cactuses < 1473126665 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algae < 1473126675 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that kind of plural < 1473126692 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaghetti < 1473126710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buffalos < 1473126736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I see "algae" more as a mass noun more than a plural < 1473126749 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should need the proper proof otherwise is no good. Alternatively, can it be similar to zero-knowledge-proof? I think not. < 1473126750 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a plural < 1473126760 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473126799 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plurals are cooler than plurals < 1473126813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, algae:rain::alga:raindrop < 1473126836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: What kind of plural? < 1473126851 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh there's probably a better link I could use, but this'll do http://pluralityresource.org/plurality-information/ < 1473126859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: And spaghetti is a dish, not a collection of individual objects < 1473126876 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of plural is better than the grammar kind of plural < 1473126892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, "duck" is its own plural (but "ducks" is also acceptable) < 1473126894 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to fool my english class with people - peoples, pupil - ? < 1473126912 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'peoples' is a thing < 1473126916 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: spaghetti are more than one spaghetto hth < 1473126935 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: look it up. it's not what you'd expect < 1473126936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I have never heard that. Is that actually valid Italian? < 1473126946 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it is < 1473126962 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cappuccino is singular of cappuccini < 1473126969 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with gnocchi < 1473126979 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, it's impossible to look up < 1473126986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: "peoples" is a thing and everyone knows it. When "people" is used as a singular, it refers to a society (or ethnicity, etc.), and "peoples" refers to several of these < 1473127001 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473127004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "Native American peoples" refers to the various groups of American Indian < 1473127019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And buffalo is weird- "buffalo", "bison", and (to a lesser extent) "buffalos"/"buffaloes" are all correct < 1473127062 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, this kind of plural is cool: pluralityresource.org/plurality-information/ < 1473127069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you said "buffaloes" to someone who wasn't particularly invested in bison- e.g. anyone not from the midwest- they'd probably take a few seconds to catch the use of a weird pluralization) < 1473127095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, maybe not. But everyone knows what you mean and it sounds like it could be right.) < 1473127128 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the same italian one: graffito < 1473127140 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm .-. < 1473127148 0 :APNG!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PART #esoteric :"o/" < 1473127163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deers, fishes/fishies, salmons, sheeps, squids (huh, apparently "squid" is a valid plural. I guess it's just that if there's more than one squid, you're too busy screaming to talk about it) < 1473127175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigs, trouts < 1473127212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you refer to a single piece of the blues genre? < 1473127219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's a very nice blue"? < 1473127238 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blues piece? < 1473127242 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lurks
< 1473127244 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :böues track < 1473127246 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :song < 1473127248 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1473127250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ox -> oxes, child -> ...OK, "children" is the only acceptable plural of child. < 1473127273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, "brethren" is just an archaic pluralization of "brother" < 1473127293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How do you triple-plural person? person -> people -> peoples -> ???) < 1473127302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must never say "brethren" and "brothers" in the same breath. < 1473127312 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's OK in multiple breathren. < 1473127312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, "bee" is plural "been" in Ireland < 1473127351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many goose is "goose", many moose is "meese" < 1473127374 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is a mess < 1473127392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :many goose is goöse < 1473127429 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oh welö, in german, the plural of "status" is "status", but with a longer u < 1473127429 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-143.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473127447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bitchen be crazy" < 1473127464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, hyponyms are interesting < 1473127488 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is directly transfered from latin, i think < 1473127506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've heard people say that the word "bitch" (in the non-dog sense) shouldn't be used at work because it's sexist) < 1473127597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, (a) it shouldn't be used at work because it's considered obscene, and you don't use obscene words at work in general unless you work for an institution that permits or encourages it (like a Porn site). (b) Really, it's no more sexist than "waitress" in my mind, because I've always thought of "bitch" as the feminine of "bastard". Now, using it to refer to a man, on the other hand...) < 1473127642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I just learned about hyponyms and hypernyms, and now I'm happy < 1473127767 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently polybot has a semioffical channel. < 1473127833 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473127966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh "pence" is "pennies" < 1473128043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the US. < 1473128049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yeah < 1473128054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the US "pennies" is $/100 and "pence" is £/100 < 1473128093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually maybe in the US "pennies" is only the coins, not the currency. < 1473128100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But I've heard "pence", a hector times, and I'm just now learning that it just means "cents" in a way referring to the coin < 1473128179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume when you're referring to pennies themselves you still say pence? Like, "can you make change for this" "No, I only have 8 pence" (when he has more money than that, but the price-offer relation requires nine pennies to make exact change)) < 1473128185 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "pennies" would generally refer to the coin in US English. < 1473128191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I know. < 1473128227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bizarre thing is that apparently some stocks are traded in pounds and some are traded in pence? < 1473128228 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you would ever say "I only have 8 pennies" unless you literally only had 8 1¢ coins. < 1473128234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo how odd < 1473128276 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that is a little weird. < 1473128318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_sterling < 1473128363 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite as weird as the now-historical practice in the US of trading stocks in 1/8th dollars. < 1473128377 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in 1997) < 1473128383 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(erm, until 1997) < 1473128389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, say, you're buying something that costs ¤9.91 and carrying a ¤10. The cashier has 1 ¤5-bill, 5 ¤1-coins, 1 ¤0.10-coin, and 8 pennies. AFAICT, he needs 9 pennies to make exact change. Could he refer to the pennies themselves as "8 pence", even though he has far more than that amount of money aggregate?) < 1473128395 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\)// < 1473128403 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473128413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I thought it was until 2000 or so. < 1473128426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But now they're experimenting with making the tick size for some stocks $0.05. < 1473128446 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I was quoting when the NYSE made the switch. < 1473128459 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the SEC required all other markets to make the switch in 2001. < 1473128483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when one exchange makes the switch to a finer tick size, of course all the rest want to make it too. < 1473128498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I thought it was later than 1997. But I'm not sure. < 1473128523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What do you think the tick size should be? < 1473128533 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NYSE is by no means the only exchange; it's entirely plausible it took other exchanges longer. < 1473128548 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, the mil? < 1473128565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't want it too small. < 1473128591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SEC already thinks $0.01 might be too small. < 1473128608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why they're experimenting with $/20. < 1473128610 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a reason I didn't say FLT_EPSILON. :P < 1473128617 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, hrm. < 1473128718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think that value of a stock should be indicated by k ∈ ℂ < 1473128773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, why 1/8? I mean, I'm sure the 8 is for technical reasons (2^3=8, ofc), but shouldn't they at least have used 16 (2^4, much nicer for bytes) < 1473128797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, I would've gone with 256 (2^8, 1 full byte, easy for computers) < 1473128813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In European markets tick size often varies with price. < 1473128825 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't for technical reasons, it's for hilarious legacy reasons. < 1473128827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes sense < 1473128842 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US used to use the Spanish dollar, or pieces-of-eight, as currency. < 1473128843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah, did their old computers use 6-bit bytes? < 1473128847 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had 8 natural subdivisions. < 1473128857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1473128861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1473128877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think there should be a metric unit of value of some sort) < 1473128879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the minimum tick size *was* $/16 < 1473128893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least in the #esoteric system) < 1473128902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah? < 1473128910 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :$/16 was switched *to* as part of migrating to $/10. < 1473128918 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :$/8 was the historical practice. < 1473128927 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :$/16 was the practice at time of decimalization. < 1473128934 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why this made sense is beyond me. < 1473128947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with $/16? < 1473128962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What unit would the #esoteric system of measurement start with? As in, like, if we do time we can say that the base distance is how far light moves in that time) < 1473128965 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, it's just weird to do $/8->$/16->$/10 rather than $/8->$/10. < 1473128998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It'd probably start with shachafs, tbh) < 1473129114 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473129231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, base unit of distance is 0.865 meters (names later) < 1473129250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not interesting. < 1473129261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What isn't? < 1473129271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a different number. Boring. All you do is multiply. < 1473129285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something interesting, produce a whole new perspective on length and measurement. < 1473129287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, I know, but that could be said of pretty much any unit < 1473129297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like general relativity, maybe? < 1473129302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and how would one do that? I think length is fairly objective < 1473129306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, relativity < 1473129317 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or special, I guess. Whatever. < 1473129332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one sort of perspective that could be esoteric. If it wasn't so mainstream. < 1473129342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invent something like that. < 1473129346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is the perceived height of Einstein to a stationary observer while moving at 15% of the speed of light" < 1473129364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boring. < 1473129367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, interesting measurement is hard, OK? < 1473129377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1473129378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well what do you think would be interesting? < 1473129392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1473129407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linear inches would maybe be an esoteric measurement if airlines didn't use them. < 1473129411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's even possible to esotericize measurement without losing any semblance of consistency < 1473129434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that's exactly why you need to step back. < 1473129440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK < 1473129444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION steps back
< 1473129449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want me to drop consistency? < 1473129473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the ideas is measuring time and space using the same units. < 1473129478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can measure other things using the same units. < 1473129479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was going to go for things like m^(1/2) at some point < 1473129489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, I have always wanted that < 1473129498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that could be intersting, if you figure out something that works. < 1473129510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly more interesting than 86.5% of a metre. < 1473129522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 86.5% of a meter is 1/2 the height of Hitler < 1473129536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was going to go for Turing, but I couldn't find his height) < 1473129536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but that's not interesting. < 1473129546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't, but I needed somethign < 1473129547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's already taken. < 1473129550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the smoot if you want. < 1473129562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm not using that anymore < 1473129595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is there's no physical interpretation of root meters < 1473129620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I talk about volume time in here? < 1473129635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I did, and oerjan said something about how when all you have is nail polish, everything looks like a nail. < 1473129697 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473129702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think there's an equation with m^(1/2) in it, but I forgot what it is) < 1473129832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In materials engineering, there's MPa(m)^1/2 < 1473129855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it that's megapascals*m^(1/2) < 1473129855 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473130061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could measure expansion in m^2/s, I suppose. If you wanted to measure the growth of a side (assuming it's a perfect square; if it isn't, you math it so it is), you'd have to use m/sqrt(s) < 1473130122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it had to be in per-second notation, you'd use m*sqrt(s)/s. If you measure it in what happens in 1 second, you get a result in m*sqrt(s) < 1473130124 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473130186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for a physical interpretation... < 1473130248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :physical interpretations are for the physicists < 1473130298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They're nice though < 1473130360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aren't being impure if you switch mindsets and only apply your mathematics at the very end (take a real-world problem, drop all the real-world stuff, do proper math, quickly turn it back into something real at the very end) < 1473130386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you explain what's going on to the reader in real-world terms while mathing it, THEN your math is impure < 1473131806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't like MKS; MGS would be objectively better < 1473131879 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1473132167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's going to be entirely impossible to make Americans use SI, can we at least get them to use a YPS (yard-pound-second) metric variant? < 1473132239 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473132247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At that point, why not go the whole 8.2296 meters? < 1473132266 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And just switch to metric? Because Americans. < 1473132275 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Americans won't go for it < 1473132280 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though PPP would be the best < 1473132292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch-pooch-pooch < 1473132460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473132631 0 :Guest23396!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1473132631 0 :Guest23396!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1473132639 0 :Guest23396!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1473132855 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...planck < 1473132860 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFF as well < 1473133062 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I want to see FFF, but with the additional base units for electric current, temperature, luminous intensity, and amount of substance) < 1473133119 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Plus prefixes) < 1473133138 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All unit names must start with F, and probably also the prefixes) < 1473133147 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prefixes based on powers of 7? < 1473133318 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temperature has to be Fahrenheit of course < 1473133651 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegians < 1473133652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1473134745 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473135003 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473135261 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473135283 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473135397 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473135468 0 :primo!~primo@122.155.138.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473135931 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xevsifijvsiacjjt JOIN :#esoteric < 1473136128 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473136718 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473136932 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473137042 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote prose < 1473137043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1134) A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric." < 1473137094 0 :primo!~primo@122.155.138.138 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1473137652 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473137781 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How capable is iCE40 FPGA compared to Xilinx, if IceStorm is used? < 1473137801 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473138942 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473139838 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473139862 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473139936 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473139999 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473140790 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473140952 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473141048 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473141576 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473141642 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical notation prank idea: if you have two variables h and p and you take their product, just call their product 'f' without explicitly stating so and act confused when people don't understand < 1473141648 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473141730 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473141975 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, single- and double-story a and g are different variables < 1473142012 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umlaut is an operator, but can only be applied to a (either kind), e, i, o, and u < 1473142050 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w is equal to 2*u OR u^2, depending on the paper (be consistent in each paper, but feel free to change in different papers) < 1473142658 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it is a new kind? < 1473142699 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ? < 1473142772 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o o ()
< 1473142780 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I swear, that's never happened to me before < 1473142806 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( English needs some new bizarre letter variants that our ancestors will look at and say "huh, that's weird, didn't realize they used THAT historically" )
< 1473142904 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I've only really seen . o O notation in JParanoia )
< 1473143086 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473143762 0 :primo_!~primo@122.155.138.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473143779 0 :primo_!~primo@122.155.138.138 PART #esoteric : < 1473143962 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473144131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Do you have clearance to reveal that information ) < 1473144301 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473144719 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473144974 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Einstein ever appear on television? < 1473145018 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last week on themoreyouknow < 1473145091 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c̈ < 1473145117 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxmbjenieshbdtza QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1473145133 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possible, but I don't know. < 1473145211 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently he died on route to a TV appearance commemorating the 7th anniversary of the state of Israel, though. < 1473145229 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry. Not on route. Died intending to go to one. < 1473145263 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473145304 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473145397 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473145448 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was a Jew from Germany, so I can understand why he'd a) care to do such a thing b) be invited for such a thing. < 1473145496 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, you know, the science thing < 1473145523 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your comment looks slightly racist < 1473145578 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :implying that he'd be invited to tv shows for being a jew rather than for what he did < 1473145598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49695&oldid=45967 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (-86) 10/* Prelude */ update with shortened quine and correct line < 1473145608 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, more for the specific element of being for the 7th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel. < 1473145666 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. that if he weren't Jewish it's rather unlikely they would think of having him for that particular event. < 1473145688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nothing caught in the wiki spam filter today < 1473145700 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: add some < 1473145702 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or yesterday < 1473145839 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEtQ-gQ0Bq8 < 1473145870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: done hth < 1473145879 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1473145893 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's hard to remember that Einstein had a mega-german accent) < 1473145928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :got caught in two of the filters < 1473146100 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473146109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very mega < 1473146336 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder what accent of german I'm learning- like, obviously, I'm going to have an american accent, but I'll also have an accent based on what my German teacher (who apparently doesn't have an accent according to other germans, despite being from Tennysee) < 1473146339 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sp) < 1473146343 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1473146403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pronounce german like einstein pronounced english, and you'll be fine. < 1473146418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1473146431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1473146637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockingly, irssi doesn't seem to have a simple command for sending ctcp replies. < 1473146696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shocked* < 1473146717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: /nctcp? < 1473146724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just found it hth < 1473146730 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use NOTICE command? < 1473146736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: come on < 1473146739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't a tdh? < 1473146747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twhh? < 1473146752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, because i'd already found it < 1473146762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twhhioihfif < 1473146764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sent the reply a second before < 1473146767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, twhhioihnfif < 1473146775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :taautdnh < 1473146786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is, do you want to encourage the behavior < 1473146790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just this isolated incident < 1473146806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twhhbywtl OKAY? < 1473146846 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:226:bbff:fe08:46ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1473146864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't decipher the previous acronym < 1473146883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean not the latest one but the one before < 1473146900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very meta-appropriate, in fact < 1473146924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tchh < 1473146927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tshh < 1473146935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twhhbamtw < 1473146936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btjdnh? < 1473146953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blows a brain fuse
< 1473147044 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine was: that would have helped if only i had not found it first < 1473147052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanstaaha < 1473147098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn tanstaaha so please stop using them twh < 1473147101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tanstaaha': tanstaaha so please stop using them twh < 1473147165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s# twh#. That would help.#;s# #, # < 1473147168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanstaaha//tanstaaha, so please stop using them. That would help. < 1473147171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it was "those acronyms are unreadable, that does not help" < 1473147196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanstahth < 1473147205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how hypercritical < 1473147215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1473147222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever been helped by a hairy toe? < 1473147231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you removed the hypocrisy tdnh < 1473147247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would the dogs care about hypocrisy < 1473147265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, hyperccriticial/hypocritical < 1473147270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm missing a pun of some sort < 1473147297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly by removing hypocrisy, you are creating hypercrisy, duh < 1473147331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what's duh an acronym of again ) < 1473147366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1473147373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, now I see. < 1473147380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were talking about the sed < 1473147410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aha < 1473147411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473147491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn aha would be a helpful acronym, but has a shedding problem. < 1473147493 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'aha': aha would be a helpful acronym, but has a shedding problem. < 1473147498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn AHA is a helpful acronym for American Heart Association. < 1473147501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'aha': AHA is a helpful acronym for American Heart Association. < 1473147501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1473147531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shedding? < 1473147538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very hairy < 1473147563 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should revert my edit. < 1473147613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1473147615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1473147622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1473148070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1473148071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious reanimate œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1473148082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#reanimate#helpful# < 1473148084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious helpful œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1473148121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it still true that when you try to remember a word, "amortized" pops up? < 1473148127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1473148138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just found out the identity of Betty Crocker < 1473148143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the identity of [redacted] < 1473148219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1473148234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it might be, i haven't tried to remember a word in a while < 1473150380 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg5bhdwyq4xrsio.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473150705 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473150841 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473151674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473152260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473153195 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew, finally some internets. < 1473153228 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473154492 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473157835 0 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-7-50.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473161321 0 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-7-50.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473162928 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-125.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473163425 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473164066 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1473164066 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1473164892 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473165078 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:226:bbff:fe08:46ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473165114 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:784d:3b66:940b:4542 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473165375 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:784d:3b66:940b:4542 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473167784 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473167857 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1473170046 0 :stateless!~sin@saturn.2f30.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473170544 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473170643 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473172092 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473172389 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473173317 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473175805 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-pzaaannhmvuqfjmr QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1473176599 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-125.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473176657 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-125.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473176713 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-125.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Client Quit < 1473177052 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-125.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473177185 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: an internet? where? < 1473177620 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-repszpdpotvwrdad JOIN :#esoteric < 1473177645 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473177847 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came out of the wall at home. < 1473179299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dbfi14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49696&oldid=30552 5* 03Nthern 5* (+0) 10typo correction: CGBSI should be CGBFI < 1473180319 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473181092 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473181746 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: A ghost? < 1473181829 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :An internet. < 1473182030 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I saw internets coming out of the walls, I'd jump out a window to avoid being crushed. < 1473183140 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1473184964 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473185194 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473186438 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1473186897 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :President of the Phillipines Duterte threatens to eat terrorists. < 1473186911 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nottheonion < 1473186929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"with salt and vinegar" < 1473186984 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like terrorists the most with fresh grilling marks < 1473186996 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a nice bbq sauce < 1473187534 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473187922 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody ever made some kind of a todo list for df-likes? i know there is that kind of stuff für roguelikes < 1473188415 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not seen for either < 1473188807 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :roguelike howtwos usually advice you to hardcode levels at first and stuff < 1473188829 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes lot of sense in that point < 1473188841 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is completely irrelevant for df likes < 1473188937 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One forum I go on has now added a field in the user profile for RDF link (which says it can be used not only for RDF but also for RSS or Atom), although currently there is no way of automatically reading that file on the forum server since that would be more difficult to program and furthermore would cause problems when they upgrade the forum software. < 1473188972 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Well, I don't know df likes working, but I suppose what you said can be work for roguelike < 1473188991 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other advice did they give? < 1473189095 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have to look it up, i read that quite a while ago < 1473189122 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but imho roguelikes and df likes are way too different to use similar approaches in design < 1473189291 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe you < 1473190027 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473190314 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473190473 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473190495 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473191555 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473192250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473192375 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to implement combinators using C# delegates without getting stack overflows < 1473192390 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing it via string modification is straighforward enough < 1473192468 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, if I pick the Turing combinator U, then ``UUI = `I``UUI = ``UUI < 1473192476 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite loop but the string size doesn't change < 1473192502 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if I do it via delegates, the recursive function calls makes the stack quickly overflow < 1473192507 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way around this < 1473192766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473192960 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how is C# working < 1473193315 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :change the size of the C# stack? < 1473193541 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not really a v. good solution < 1473193549 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will overflow in 3 seconds instead of 1 < 1473193603 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473194029 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473194054 0 :byteflam1!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473194063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( There should be a programmer religion with numerology in hex )
< 1473194106 0 :byteflam1!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473194110 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1473194125 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473194544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your random number generator came up with 0x600DD065! you will have good luck with animals today < 1473194600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes < 1473194605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll also need digit sum and such < 1473194818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: How should the rng be seeded? < 1473194908 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with your birthdate and the current angle between the sun and the planet Ceres < 1473194914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking something like that < 1473194933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Seed with birthday, result is modulo Ceres? < 1473194978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seed with birthdate via day^3+month^2+year using the reformed calendar) < 1473195122 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My position on planets is that anything going around the sun that is round is a planet by the way < 1473195150 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ceres is spherical, therefore is a planet, not an asteroid < 1473195183 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about that tennis ball I lost in space that one time < 1473195256 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's a very small artificial planet < 1473195282 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen? < 1473195294 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shenanigans. < 1473195300 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic < 1473195328 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole clearing their neighbourhood thing is just a stupid excuse to preven their being hundreds of planets beyond Neptune < 1473195396 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and between Mars and Earth. < 1473195418 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there are very few spherical asteroids actually < 1473195445 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the first time I played KSP I got a single kerbal on solar escape orbit, largely by accident < 1473195467 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still... < 1473195501 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, huh, there's only one known object in the asteroid belt that's spherical. < 1473195513 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf planet Ceres. < 1473195561 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473195583 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah. basically my position comes down to saying that the things the IAU is calling "dwarf planets" should still fall into the category of "planets" < 1473195594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category of planets? < 1473195598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the arrows? < 1473195685 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I don't really see why though -- clearing the neighborhood seems not-insignificant. < 1473195707 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What's the degree of (x-a)(x-b)...(x-z)?" < 1473195713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1473195745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm with Bertrand Russell on WWII < 1473195753 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does that include x-x ? < 1473195772 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's defined arbitrarily though. There are a ton of asteroids that pass close to all the planets < 1473196413 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just an excuse so they don't have to keep revising the number of planets < 1473196551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegian < 1473196556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1473196633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said that, despite nonviolence being the best strategy /usually/, Hitler was kind of bad and we need to fight him anyway < 1473197711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473197743 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say Pluto is a planet just so that we can keep things consistent as to how they were, and then say "the 2000s were weird". < 1473197788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473197790 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an episode of rick&morty about that < 1473197837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tarator < 1473197838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473197843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspacho < 1473197845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gaspacho and I like Gazpacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1473197853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaszpacho < 1473197854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaszpacho is a polish soup, traditionally szerved cold for hot szummer days < 1473197907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Tarator is a Bulgarian soup, traditionally served cold for hot summer days. < 1473197909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tarator': Tarator is a Bulgarian soup, traditionally served cold for hot summer days. < 1473197958 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesnjt it spell "szoup"? < 1473198108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it? < 1473198142 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it szerved? < 1473198185 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that. < 1473198196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg gaszpacho < 1473198198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-08-13 revert accbc9c5c7ec \ 2015-08-12 echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2013-07-31 revert \ 2013-07-31 for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ 2013-02-13 revert 87c64ef250a0 \ 2013-02-13 revert 3 < 1473198202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l szoup wisdom < 1473198209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gazspaczo \ wisdom/disflagrate \ wisdom/szoup < 1473198220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazspaczo < 1473198221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazspaczo iz a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1473198226 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? szoup < 1473198227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1473198230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? disflagrate < 1473198231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disflagrate v.t.perf.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized. < 1473198607 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lecsó < 1473198608 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lecsó? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473198785 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473198790 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473198853 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473198957 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom lecsó Delicious hungarian stew, made with peppers and tomatoes < 1473198958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1473198970 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember how to make new ones < 1473199083 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473199244 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473199269 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473199476 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any languages that are LL(1) but are not LR(1)? < 1473199790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any bulgarians in here? < 1473200155 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is Bulgarian LL(1) but not LR(1)? < 1473201191 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473201245 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, I'm loding my credentials as nativ english speaker < 1473201273 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't stop making grammatical and spelling problems < 1473201321 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote "with suport of" instead of "with support for" < 1473201441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and above you can see more malapropisms < 1473201670 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell/Zippers < 1473201692 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg5bhdwyq4xrsio.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473202524 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473202923 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473203078 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473203164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473203286 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473203374 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473203905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473204235 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473204591 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473205229 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473205754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473205823 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473206099 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473206110 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473206562 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473207679 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473208535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Slereah Is there a way to implement combinators using C# delegates without getting stack overflows <-- i suspect this is when you need a trampoline. < 1473208536 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473209185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, the wikipedia Philosophy trick is freaking me out right now < 1473209187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it work? < 1473209198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is it possible to have a chain where it does not? < 1473209224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly because articles about concrete things tend to start with a link to something slightly more abstract < 1473209252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and philosophy is about the most abstract there is. < 1473209288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But is there, like, an inalienable reason? Like, MediaWiki code? < 1473209294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it just random? < 1473209294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unless you have a _short_ loop (which probably exist), you'll probably keep going up. < 1473209325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no intrinsic necessity there - after all, the trick _excludes_ the most mechanical links. < 1473209394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think people in the channel searched for an exception once, and i think we found one. < 1473209406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it was a variant game. < 1473209428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUUUUUUUU < 1473209436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, it works every time < 1473209457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, it _usually_ does. < 1473209529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics needs a citation that it is, indeed, science < 1473209538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1473209557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Does Uncyclopedia have something like this? Or even just The Wiki? )
< 1473209576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno about our wiki < 1473209590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have the bf derivative game, of course. < 1473209595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wikipedia vandalism idea: Make all the loops have a distance of 1 (so in EVERY article, the first link is DIRECTLY to philosophy) < 1473209601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't heard of it < 1473209662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i remember the rules, but you are basically clicking random until you either get a language you made, or a bf derivative. +1 for the former, -1 for the latter. or thereabouts. < 1473209713 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473209728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In classical [[philosophy]], Adolf Hitler is the archetypical [[Assholery (philosphy)|asshole]]..." < 1473209744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a misspelling there < 1473209747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1473209749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1473209755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :philosphy < 1473209763 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1473209769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second one. < 1473209772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :philosphy is just a branch of philosophy < 1473209773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1473209778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1473209801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Adolf" is hard to spell, because I feel like it should be "Adolph") < 1473209818 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473209844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because you don't have the german spirit (Deutsche Volksgeist) < 1473209873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler applies < 1473209898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :applies to what? < 1473209911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Philosophication < 1473209932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to mathematicize ethics, but I fear that Godellery poses a problem < 1473209978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicizing ethics killed godel < 1473209998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by making not eating seem ethical, i guess) < 1473210020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...nope < 1473210040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fail to see how your objection applies hth < 1473210084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Question: When mathematicizing ethics, should one take the axiom of choice? < 1473210123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are there any languages that are LL(1) but are not LR(1)? <-- iirc no. < 1473210156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: one should either take it or leave it, no third option hth < 1473211746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Shouldn't eligibility to hold office start at 18? )
< 1473211798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that varies by country hth < 1473212093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, but, like, everywhere < 1473212106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, if the age of majority is different, then change 18 to that) < 1473212212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, why should it be tied to age rather than skill, anyway < 1473212230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 is no guarantee of anything... < 1473212534 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1473213412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473214204 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-226-125.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473214472 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473214475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473214563 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just ordered it :) < 1473214573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hipumpkin < 1473214587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any book corecommendations < 1473214596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one isn't even the best book < 1473214599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just pretty good < 1473214721 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1473215172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473216118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473216452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473216599 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473217035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Logicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49697&oldid=49693 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+412) 10Added + operator in wiki < 1473217503 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not really, don't read books much these days < 1473217523 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last thing I remember reading was that thriller they made into a movie about the dude with the disappeared wife < 1473217807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I watched the movie but didn't read the book. < 1473217925 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I haven't seen the movie < 1473217928 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book was riveting though < 1473217935 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finished it the night I started it < 1473218236 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorak is such a reassuring robot. < 1473218414 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473219701 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Freefall? < 1473219716 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't actually know which robot is which.
< 1473219727 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I know Clippy and ... Sam's robot) < 1473219737 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helix iirc < 1473219748 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok so there are a number of robots I know < 1473219980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorak was like the second robot to show up in the series, i think... < 1473220053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope < 1473220065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to have been sawtooth. < 1473220331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fourth, then. qwerty was third. < 1473220396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I once read a mystery book printed on red and blue pages. < 1473220398 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was rivening. < 1473220655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also once read such a book. < 1473220664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was neverending. < 1473220862 0 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com QUIT :Quit: . < 1473221088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm apparently only some editions had the colored text < 1473221760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, colored text < 1473221765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember whether my version had that. < 1473222052 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473223315 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.173.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473229075 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473230392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473230521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standard Deviation: Square root of the average of the squares of the average value minus each single value; sqrt(sum([((sum(vals)/len(vals))-k)^2 for k in vals])/len(vals)) < 1473230527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even-more-standard deviation: The same thing, but higher; cbrt(sum([((sqrt(sum([k^2 for k in vals])/len(vals)))-k)^3 for k in vals])/len(vals)) < 1473230551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, I did something wrong) < 1473230557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no I didn't < 1473230747 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.173.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473231968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :root-median-square < 1473232370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, geometric median is a thing < 1473232386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it works for arbitrarily many dimensions < 1473232414 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's calculated by finding the point p such that the sum of the distances to all other points is the smallest < 1473232972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473233012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473233028 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1473238055 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473238702 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473241300 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473243892 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473244350 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473244603 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1473245571 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1473245930 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stackoverflow is offline < 1473245949 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suddenly can't program < 1473246907 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473247539 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473247935 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473247979 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3d83:e49a:4ce6:ec76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473248235 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3d83:e49a:4ce6:ec76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473248272 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1473248825 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473249460 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1473250453 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473251381 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473251744 0 :Guest15977!~qdwdq@cm-84.213.210.92.getinternet.no QUIT : < 1473252924 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473253098 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473254540 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473260319 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473260877 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473260963 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473261634 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473261634 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473261634 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473261634 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473261647 0 :astslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473262378 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473262445 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Client Quit < 1473262843 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473262931 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473262931 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1473262931 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1473263772 0 :stateless!~sin@saturn.2f30.org QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1473264201 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473265697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there are people who say heigth and not height? < 1473265838 0 :astslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473269433 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rfist osecnd ithrd rfouth ffith xsith nseveth heigth nnith nteth < 1473270173 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, why won't chrome allow https: to be redirected! < 1473271177 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473271347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473271579 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473271731 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473272488 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: To what? < 1473272591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... what's the name of the reverse of the root mean square... < 1473272597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(square-mean-root?) < 1473272628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Square of the arithmetic means of the square roots) < 1473272789 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just "power mean with an exponent of 1/2". < 1473272924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1473272930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doesn't sound interesting enough < 1473272938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :square-mean-root (SMR) sounds cooler < 1473272954 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a bunch of hits for it. < 1473272960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can take the asymptotic square mean root to get ASMR < 1473272985 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though many of them are just hypotheticals. < 1473275022 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473276629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473276776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473277198 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473278683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473280253 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473280998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Saturday when internet was not working I somehow received an email messages that was dated from Thursday, it said my computer received it on Thursday too, but I didn't receive it. Do you know what is wrong with it, is there some sort of misconfiguration on my end? < 1473281021 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473281058 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:206c:416a:7f3d:cca8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473281358 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:206c:416a:7f3d:cca8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473281947 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5cfd:e621:5b5f:7213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473282593 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5cfd:e621:5b5f:7213 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473283349 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473283706 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473285566 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473286398 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473286441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473286709 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473286764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "ng" is /ŋ/ < 1473286769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's "mg"? < 1473286770 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473286942 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :/㎎/. < 1473286951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ɳ < 1473286954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0273 LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH RETROFLEX HOOK] < 1473286976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ɲ < 1473286977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+019D LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH LEFT HOOK] < 1473287008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prays there's a LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH RETROFLEX HOOK
< 1473287043 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only one LATIN CAPITAL LETTER with a RETROFLEX HOOK, and it's T. < 1473287047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, looks like there isn't < 1473287050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1473287062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping to add ɳ to the alphabet < 1473287103 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ʈoo bad. < 1473287112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1473287113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1473287121 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to bug the unicode consortium about this < 1473287154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add it anyways even if it isn't part of Unicode, if you want to do so < 1473287166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1473287176 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And eventually they'll have to add it >:) < 1473287188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Until then, computer representations will be based on X-SAMPA) < 1473287222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(X-SAMPA ɳ is n`, so capital ɳ will be written N` until further notice) < 1473287271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to, you could just make your own code for it < 1473287293 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⥥ < 1473287294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2965 DOWNWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB LEFT BESIDE DOWNWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB RIGHT] < 1473287714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... If we call '.' a "point", ',' a "pause", '!' an "exclamation stop", and '?' an "interrogation stop" (and, of course, '‽' an "exclamatory interrogation stop" or "interrobang" informally), then we can also have exclamation pauses, interrogative pauses, and exclamatory interrogation pauses ("interrobang pauses") < 1473287723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, of course, the inverted variants) < 1473287797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read someone has made up such thing before, I think < 1473287930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :inverterrobang < 1473287958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1051 < 1473287959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1051: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1473288142 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now my RDF parser program in JavaScript has a few bug fixed and now supports hexadecimal integer literals (this is a nonstandard feature, and furthermore it does automatically convert to decimal in the returned RDF data). < 1473288508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm pretty sure Unicode already has inverted interrobang, because if anybody were to start using interrobangs it'd be spanish-speakers (as they already decided proper punctuation is important enough to make sure you know they did it at the beginning), so of course there's an inverted one because they need it < 1473288535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like the exclamation pause and interrogation pause < 1473288540 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good for quotes, I guess? < 1473289327 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473289730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473290734 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473291008 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473291112 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473291177 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Unicode has the gnaborretni. < 1473291208 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2E18 INVERTED INTERROBANG < 1473291231 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473291576 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has the HEAVY INTERROBANG ORNAMENT. < 1473291639 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Metal Gear fans use the VERY HEAVY SOLIDUS character as a joke. < 1473291641 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Same block.) < 1473292043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473292811 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473292916 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473293208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473293225 0 :rodgort`!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473293227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Perhaps #esoteric should start using Chess Annotation Symbols (??, ?, ?!, !?, !, !!) constantly, possibly when livereading active conversations )
< 1473293256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( that idea is ?? ) < 1473293271 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473293323 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM ⁇ ⁈ ⁉ and ‼ HTH HAND < 1473293379 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473293394 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿What, compose-?-? just yields a ¿? < 1473293439 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473293550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1975 confuses me... < 1473293559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fischer wanted "first to win 10 games" < 1473293587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the event of 9-9 he wanted the current champion (which would be him) to keep the title < 1473293616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the event of 9-9 in a "first to win 10" format, wouldn't the correct response be "play one more game, the winner is the overall winner"? < 1473293660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, I guess the rationale is that if the score is 9-9, the players are about evenly matched and the 10th game is pretty much decided by a coin toss... < 1473293694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( How about "first to win 3 more games than the other has won?" (or some s/3/n/ for integer n)? )
< 1473293759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could in theory last forever < 1473294133 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall that the expected value of the absolute distance after N steps of 1-d random walk is something non-constant, which I guess would mean it'd be increasingly unlikely to continue? (Of course you could presumably use that as an argument against any sort of constant difference N as well, since it'd mean exactly evenly matched participants would reach that disparity eventually.) < 1473294402 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least sqrt(n) disparity hth < 1473294432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that may or may not be the right order) < 1473294797 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1473294800 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473294839 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, I think all LL(1) languages are LR(1). I could be wrong though. < 1473294864 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard. Why does it seem like all good mechanical keyboards are horribly expensive? < 1473294981 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473295172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure all LL(1) _languages_ are LR(1). not quite sure about _grammars_. < 1473295208 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a clicky keyboard for home with 50 g force and 101/104 key US layout. < 1473295213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the first, an LL(1) recognizer is pretty obviously implementable as a deterministic pushdown automaton) < 1473295336 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, they're horribly expensive. < 1473295341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, an LR(1) grammar is one which needs only 1 token lookahead at the end of a production, while iirc an LL(1) grammar is one that needs only one token lookahead at the _beginning_ iirc. assuming that, it's pretty trivial for grammars too. < 1473295342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they have to cost this much? < 1473295362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to be sure that the production is chosen) < 1473295369 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did people even have keyboards for their computers back twenty or thirty years ago when mechanical keyboards were the norm? < 1473295392 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the market in action hth < 1473295473 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do other kinds of keyboards cheaper and satisfy the majority of people and so on and so forth. < 1473295507 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but still, fuck them. < 1473295633 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the IBM Model F keyboard < 1473295679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game: Total Shuffle Chess (AKA Chess60277490498889369439384431508790906881064404967751680) < 1473295701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I prefer deterministic putdown automata < 1473295757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hppavilion[1] ------###
< 1473295758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, it might actually be more like Chess15069372624722342359846107877197726720266101241937920 as castling becomes irrelevant and/or impossible) < 1473295780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(processing...) < 1473295795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ding! < 1473295796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Your addiction to swatting indicates deeper issues, and that you're a broken human being worth less than fertilizer < 1473295931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't find your putdown as deterministic as my swatter hth < 1473296213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1473296237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think CS has a concept of /how/ deterministic something is; only whether or not it is < 1473296259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Bobby Fischer was an anti-semitic asshole (also a holocaust denier) < 1473296263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1473296333 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CS thing, that is. the other i'm ignoring. < 1473296493 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473296494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was... he said he agreed with Nietzsche that "religion is just to dull the senses of the people"... and yet he published "My 60 Memorable Games" because he thought the rapture was coming soon and figured he'd make some cash first < 1473296543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day soon, deep learning will allow us to say /ignore hppavilion[1] when he brings up ancient crap < 1473296553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1473296572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what happens when I read wikipedia < 1473296579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About real-world stuff < 1473296586 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We only ship to Worldwide." -- perfect Engrish grammar < 1473296589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your addiction to bringing up crap indicates deeper < 1473296589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : issues, and that you're a broken human being worth less < 1473296589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : than fertilizer < 1473296594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit irssi < 1473296675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have paste_detect_time = 100msecs and that's somehow not enough. < 1473296681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: You can only get their stuff in Worldwide, Massachippissippi hth. < 1473296707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION increases to 200
< 1473296752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, what? < 1473296755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1473296758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1473296778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I needed a joke and that was the best I could come up with. < 1473296926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to bring up Usa, Japan but wikipedia crushed my childhood again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usa,_%C5%8Cita#Product_labeling < 1473296977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, snopes < 1473297065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, does this count as ancient crap, argh) < 1473297100 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. I've ordered a mechanical keyboard. < 1473297115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CANNOT DOWNLOAD A KEYBOARD, SILLY < 1473297144 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not downloading it. It will get here the slow way, on legs. < 1473297160 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Takes some time because it has to go around the globe, and not even in a straight line. < 1473297186 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Can't withstand the pressures deep inside Earth.) < 1473297205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the legs at least not have to swim < 1473297229 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it can take a ship or something < 1473297240 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's cheating! < 1473297268 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if it's only a small part of the route, I think. < 1473297316 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it doesn't even need a ship, and can come through all land the long way. < 1473297326 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know. < 1473297353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ha! < 1473297383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Was it made in USA? < 1473297424 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't think so. It's shipping from Hong Kong, and probably made there. < 1473297432 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure where these things are made really. < 1473297629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL "Philippines" is spelled with a 'ph' and "Filipino" is spelled with an 'f' < 1473297632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1473297752 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they speak Tagalog < 1473297757 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Cebuano < 1473297927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well in norwegian, they're both spelled with F hth < 1473297946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: PLEASE LET ME JOIN YOU < 1473298011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you'll probably need a work permit for that hth < 1473298029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably < 1473298030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly, you could find a norwegian to marry. < 1473298079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect you're unlikely to be granted political asylym, anyway. < 1473298291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most likely scenario is a Trump presidency, which in the event of I'm genuinely considering leaving the country < 1473298301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it makes me a walking cliche < 1473298553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with a trump presidency, political asylum may not be automatic hth < 1473298621 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: leave to where? < 1473298636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yeah, it wouldn't < 1473298650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Norway wasn't high on the list of destinations < 1473298653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Not sure yet < 1473298659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAT < 1473298667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not top 5 < 1473298668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DARE YOU NOT BUT NORWAY FIRST < 1473298692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*PUT < 1473298714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's a great country, but it isn't primarily english-speaking < 1473298717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AFAIK) < 1473298723 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Norway is nice, I visited in August < 1473298739 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: what? Norway is as good as English speaking. most people there speak English, you can get by with English. < 1473298754 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, if you already know English, then Norwegian isn't that hard to learn < 1473298754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Oh? < 1473298755 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :my roommate and I are experimentingn with canadian banking regulations < 1473298769 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote him my rent cheque on the inside flap of a macaroni carton in sharpie < 1473298796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Are the Canadian bank rules that you don't have to write cheques on the official paper? < 1473298800 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you really remain the only Norwegian regular in the channel? < 1473298809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And does this extend to checks as well?) < 1473298839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: there was another recently, but e hasn't been active enough for me to remember who it was... < 1473298850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wtf is 'finnmark < 1473298852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1473298854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe e left again < 1473298870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's our northernmost county (excluding svalbard) < 1473298880 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's Finland+Denmark... but it's in Norway... < 1473298883 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.oO( minpoijjikop isn't a regular ) < 1473298900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Where's Trønnes? < 1473298914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a town, from what I've been told) < 1473298935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: funny, we also had an episode in the channel a few years ago when someone found out about the name Finnmark (possibly from me) and was amazed by it < 1473298946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1473298950 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: never heard of that town < 1473298960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm stuck in a CTlL? < 1473298989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in Hedmark, in the south of the country. < 1473298992 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, apparently Finnmark is a county within Norway < 1473299000 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes, as I understand them, you can write a cheque on anything so long as it contains the requisite information < 1473299001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I SAID THAT < 1473299021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it also might not be big enough that anybody knows, the same way I've never heard of Arnold, Nebraska) < 1473299028 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you did, sorry < 1473299047 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: or maybe it's so far to the north that nobody goes there < 1473299185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, Google Maps only knows about one in... Meraker? I assume that's a Norwegian county? < 1473299217 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice to know for me too which places within Europe are good for living and working in case I want to leave. < 1473299227 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know much about that. < 1473299230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: btw the Finn in Finnmark is the same word as Fin in Finland. afaik (1) there may be some finnish-norwegians ("kvener") there (2) people probably didn't consider the distinction between Finnish and Sami that important back then < 1473299251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473299298 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473299369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: btw Trønnes is a "grend", which is very small, so more a village than a town. < 1473299382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473299446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really sure where any of the boundaries are... in my mind, village/town and town/city are interchangeable, and at the same time "city" can describe pretty much anything) < 1473299488 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Meråker is a municipality. it's part of Nord-Trøndelag county. < 1473299514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok... < 1473299534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is fnord in Nord, or vice versa? /s < 1473299569 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the Trønnes i found (on norwegian wikipedia) is not there. it apparently has the distinction of being the first place in norway to get a home for the elderly. < 1473299582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1473299613 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: Norway has fjords, not fnords < 1473299622 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen them < 1473299627 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen any fnords < 1473299632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I was under the impression a fnord is a co-fjord < 1473299640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no one expects you to see the fnords < 1473299643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My browser abbreviates titles when I have too many tabs, and it abbreviated "Grandmaster (chess) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" to "Grandma". I can't complain. < 1473299651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOOOH < 1473299661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How deep does afnordnia typically go? < 1473299682 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you like Norway? < 1473299682 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: guile was covered a few minutes < 1473299684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, never heard of ania before. < 1473299726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will your brain rearrange things to fill in the gap (so if you have a page where a different word on each line, and one of the words is "fnord", will you see a blank line or will all the later words move down?) < 1473299731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/down/up/ < 1473299734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think that according to some, a city needs to contain a cathedral hth < 1473299742 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works, I suppose < 1473299745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's bigger than a city? < 1473299752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Trønnes in Hedmark has only about 100 families < 1473299760 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: a metropolis < 1473299770 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473299784 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And above that? < 1473299788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a megalopolis < 1473299792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a gigalopolis < 1473299806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Can we define a gigalopolis as 1000000000 or more individuals?) < 1473299808 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: or a city-planet like Corouscant or Trantor or Ravnica < 1473299814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1473299830 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473299921 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, keyboard is ordered, but I'll also have to buy a new computer. I'll have to choose a motherboard and stuff. < 1473299940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's dyson spheres, i guess < 1473299989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and beyond that it seems a bit hard to get a continuous city. well, not that it's easy with a dyson sphere, i think those aren't actually realistically solid? < 1473300008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ringworld, maybe. < 1473300027 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Trantor isn't realistic either < 1473300028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just need to invent scrith[sp] first) < 1473300088 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1473300089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tas//TAS is a tool-assisted speedrun: a race in which participants must use quality tools such as the PHP hammer, Autoconf, and the Arkenpliers to assist them in running. < 1473300127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gigalo- is a little scow. you're basically taking the greek prefix megalo- (from which mega- comes), and pretending it contains a mega- prefix. < 1473300168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :giganto- would be more parallel. < 1473300189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the next terato-, hm < 1473300206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1473300234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from there i'm not sure they come from genuine greek. < 1473300306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually it does, but not in a useful way, peta- is from penta- < 1473300421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits tas < 1473300423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1473300427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1473300449 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that possible. < 1473300456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg tas < 1473300458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-07 ` sed -i \'s/A //\' wisdom/tas \ 2016-05-07 ` mv wisdom/ta{,s}; sed -i \'s/^/A /\' wisdom/tas < 1473300463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1473300472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits ta < 1473300474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan coppro < 1473300489 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg ta < 1473300490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-07 ` mv wisdom/ta{,s}; sed -i \'s/^/A /\' wisdom/tas \ 2016-05-06 learn TAS is a tool-assisted speedrun: a race in which participants must use quality tools such as the PHP hammer, Autoconf, and the Arkenpliers to assist them in running. < 1473300503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really didn't seem like my style :P < 1473300546 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1473300546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1473300550 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1473300552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the axiom of choice, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1473300578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives shachaf a dowg snack
< 1473300579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? inconceivable < 1473300580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inconceivable? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473300583 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? impossibl < 1473300584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossibl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473300584 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? impossible < 1473300585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473300643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hoag < 1473300644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473300668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, I took mega- from megalopolis and replaced it with giga- (because metric) < 1473300678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's what i said < 1473300687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is scow < 1473300687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1473300693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1473300858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mk < 1473300859 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473300862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mkx < 1473300863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkx? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473300872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1473300873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1473300906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprits < 1473300907 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1473300917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It could also be terastiopolis < 1473300931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd culprits//s/the lists // < 1473300932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosebud! < 1473300949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd culprit//s/the lists // < 1473300951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/culprit//`culprits` is a program that lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1473300974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/culprit{,s} < 1473300975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(megalo = μεγάλο = terástios = large, terastio = < 1473300975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :τεράστιος = terástios = huge) < 1473300977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473301002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: terato- is somewhat different. hm. < 1473301042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I did something wrong... < 1473301086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! < 1473301092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiktionary includes "ginormous" < 1473301110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a very cromulent word. < 1473301144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think a lot of people don't like it < 1473301166 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1473301194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it says comparative is "more ginormous" and superlative is "most ginormous", when it would correctly be "ginormouser" and "ginormousest") < 1473301199 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tought it was spelled gynormous < 1473301201 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, I think terato is right. I think it's greek for monster-like, and related to the same word the metric prefix tera comes from < 1473301234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: No, that's a domain-specific thing used by OB/GYNs < 1473301275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, why doesn't English include the opposite of -er and -est for "more" and "most"? Something to say "less" and "least"?) < 1473301284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It MUST have historically at some point...) < 1473301355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What's "mg"? <-- velarized m, maybe? < 1473301367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think so < 1473301398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, n can also be velarized, which seems confusing. < 1473301401 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think a velarized m makes sense < 1473301422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, IPA uses a ɱ < 1473301490 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: ɱ in IPA is not a velarized m < 1473301498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, because m doesn't use the tongue to start with? but m can be palatalized... < 1473301508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah, that's the problem < 1473301531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it looks like English n is the alveolar nasal < 1473301540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really good at distinguish velarization for anything but l, anyway. < 1473301558 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: [ɱ] in IPA is the the nasal stop version articulated at the same place as f, which you get from some speakers when they pronounce nf or mf < 1473301566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(God sounds are fun) < 1473301570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ŋ is the velar nasal < 1473301582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if m is the labiodental nasal... < 1473301598 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: no, it's not < 1473301608 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ɱ] is the labiodental nasal < 1473301610 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no it isn't < 1473301611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1473301614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my tabs confused < 1473301618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: most likely terastios is also related to the same word, so... < 1473301624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If m is the bilabial nasal < 1473301639 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :called "labiodental" because it's made with your upper teeth pressed to your lower lips, and "labio" means lips and "dent" means teeth < 1473301647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473301650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm figuring it out < 1473301650 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the names there actually make sense < 1473301660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they do < 1473301687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'m' is the bilabial nasal because your lips are pushed together (in the exaggerated version you're taught in preschool) < 1473301691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, y'know, it's nasal < 1473301695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: long words in english don't usually take -er and -est comparatives. hth. < 1473301719 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473301725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are easy to understand because they ([m], [f], [T]) are the three common places of articulation that you can actually see easily from lip-reading ([m] only when not at the start of a word) < 1473301727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: English is my L1. I think I know the rules. hth. < 1473301736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then... I have no idea what the equivalent of ng is for m < 1473301745 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other stuff is in your mouth, so you like need X-ray to understand them < 1473301755 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-ray has been done of course, but it's not something you see every day < 1473301765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Or a mouth < 1473301774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (It MUST have historically at some point...) <-- well norwegian doesn't, and i don't remember any indoeuropean language i've seen doing so. < 1473301779 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: a what? < 1473301792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: A mou... you're messing with me < 1473301801 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1473301804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what with a mouth? < 1473301812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: You need x-ray OR a mouth < 1473301838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can understand stuff without x-ray if you just pay attention to your mouth < 1473301916 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1473301951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: hppavilion[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_phonology#Consonants has velarized mˠ < 1473302053 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok < 1473302173 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading about velarised m recently because it finally answered my long-running mystery of why mh is pronounced /v/ some of the time and /w/ others < 1473302298 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473302303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh irish distinguishes nʲ and ɲ < 1473302341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1473302356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see the difference between the m in 'symphony' and the m in 'rum' < 1473302385 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :your teeth touch your lips in the former < 1473302397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: OH! < 1473302400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1473302406 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends a bit on dialect and personal variation i guess < 1473302433 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I was discussing that there's apparently a difference with my mother. She asked why there were labia in my nose. I had to explain the root to her.) < 1473302574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also distinguishes n̪ˠ from ŋ < 1473302702 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: oh so the mh in your name is pronounced like w? < 1473302705 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I just tried to velarize m... < 1473302708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's horrifying < 1473302715 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no it's silent < 1473302792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1473302933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, omh refers to another table < 1473303018 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473303089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for the velarized m? "velar bilabial nasal" didn't turn up anything < 1473303095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc it lengthens the o < 1473303113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: velar and velarized are not the same thing < 1473303156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh? < 1473303160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF IPA < 1473303161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1473303175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, i don't think wikipedia has articles for all combinations with velarized... it's an adjustment you can apply to many consonants. < 1473303185 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the velarization article < 1473303197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1473303214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: velar is primary articulation, but velarized means a secondary articulation in _addition_ to the primary one. < 1473303241 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473303243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for palatal and palatalized < 1473303301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, is there any relation between n and h, or is it just similar symbols?) < 1473303314 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(looks like no relation.) < 1473303344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're presumably both inherited from the phoenician alphabet < 1473303365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no relation in sounds? < 1473303449 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :n from Nun. apparently it descends from the egyptian symbol for snake, "djet", and was used for a sound like english J there < 1473303491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N) < 1473303528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :h from Heth, via greek Heta before that lost the H < 1473303557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, that explains why eta looks like H < 1473303561 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473303581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The original Semitic letter Heth most likely represented the voiceless pharyngeal fricative (ħ). The form of the letter probably stood for a fence or posts." < 1473303589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, those articles say more. < 1473303708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway, n is pretty far from h in sound, and always has been. < 1473303724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1473303768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike U,V,W and Y, which all descend from the same letter hth < 1473303846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and apparently F too < 1473303959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :first greek adapted F into a vowel Y, then latin got F with the original sound, borrowed greek Y as V, then borrowed it _again_ as Y, and then created U to distinguish when V was a vowel. < 1473303997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ſ looks too much like it's supposed to be esh < 1473304003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ʃ) < 1473304013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or Ʃ if using uppercase) < 1473304016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone created W from V, i guess. < 1473304286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually greek had both F and Y, but lost the w sound that the former represented. < 1473304307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F#History < 1473304446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just looking for something similar to k, but without the sudden stop < 1473304460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I wound up in Germany with the voiceless velar fricative < 1473304468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD I LOVE PHONETICS SO MUCH < 1473304548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ach du lieber fonetik < 1473304589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1473304600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ach du libe phonetik < 1473304607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh argh < 1473304622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ach du liebe Phonetik < 1473304633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now food -> < 1473305204 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Is there a letter that completes n:m::h:_? I can't find any such thing, but it'd be fun to mess with people with )
< 1473305992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473306273 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473306544 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473306837 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473308225 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473310068 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-009.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473310160 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473310192 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473311232 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473311647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like wikipedia is celebrating Star Trek's 50th anniversary < 1473312142 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1473312399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473312459 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1473312732 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473312768 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473313078 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473314368 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473314516 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: k < 1473314529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1473314560 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematical convention :) < 1473314585 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just as n and m get used as variables of a similar sort, h and k sometimes do as well < 1473314620 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473314643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: i think he meant visually < 1473314669 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473314736 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So like ɰ rotated 180 degrees < 1473314746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1473314760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ɰ < 1473314761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0270 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED M WITH LONG LEG] < 1473314773 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473314782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode M WITH < 1473314784 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0270 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED M WITH LONG LEG \ UTF-8: c9 b0 UTF-16BE: 0270 Decimal: ɰ \ ɰ \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0271 LATIN SMALL LETTER M WITH HOOK \ UTF-8: c9 b1 UTF-16BE: 0271 Decimal: ɱ \ ɱ (Ɱ) \ Uppercase: U+2C6E \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ < 1473314803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode M WITH | grep 'M WITH' < 1473314805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0270 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED M WITH LONG LEG \ UTF-8: c9 b0 UTF-16BE: 0270 Decimal: ɰ \ ɰ \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0271 LATIN SMALL LETTER M WITH HOOK \ UTF-8: c9 b1 UTF-16BE: 0271 Decimal: ɱ \ ɱ (Ɱ) \ Uppercase: U+2C6E \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ < 1473314812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode M WITH | grep 'M WITH' < 1473314813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473314827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode 'M WITH' | grep 'M WITH' < 1473314829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0270 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED M WITH LONG LEG \ U+0271 LATIN SMALL LETTER M WITH HOOK \ U+04CD CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EM WITH TAIL \ U+04CE CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EM WITH TAIL \ U+0616 ARABIC SMALL HIGH LIGATURE ALEF WITH LAM WITH YEH \ U+06B5 ARABIC LETTER LAM WITH SMALL V \ U+06B6 ARABIC LETTER LAM WITH DOT ABOVE \ U+06B7 ARABIC LETTER LAM WIT < 1473314847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode 'M WITH' | grep ' M WITH' < 1473314848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0270 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED M WITH LONG LEG \ U+0271 LATIN SMALL LETTER M WITH HOOK < 1473314853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1473315712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473316089 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, now I remember why I ignored HackEgo < 1473316183 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorted < 1473317043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1473317058 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only ignored the unicode messages < 1473317062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1473317078 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd miss 98% of the stuff in the channel once again if I ignored it totally again < 1473317109 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to pick a couple acoustic tunes for open mic tonight < 1473318095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473318691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I should learn drug chemistry... )
< 1473318836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, apparently part of the reason anime looks the way it is is that- when it was done with cel animation- it was produced in literally the stupidest way possible < 1473318853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The animation is done first, then the voice actors try to sync with the movement < 1473318866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than taking the soundtrack and making it look like the characters are talking from there < 1473319874 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473320190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to release a (CGI) film branded "4D" < 1473320218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean we used math to render the entire movie in 4D (and projected down to 3D then to 2D for screen viewing) < 1473320225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as to give the audience headaches < 1473321126 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473321884 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473322212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473322226 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473324193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473324815 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:6cc1:7ef9:209c:d2dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1473325173 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg8er2ydh57cmqd.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473326233 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:6cc1:7ef9:209c:d2dc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473326394 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473326416 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473327547 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473329455 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473329713 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473333373 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1473333715 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1473334400 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473337423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473337547 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473337716 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473338156 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b5e7:f573:25ad:ff4d JOIN :#esoteric < 1473338670 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1473339692 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b5e7:f573:25ad:ff4d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473339700 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1473345380 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473345389 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, they REALLY made this stuff watertight. < 1473345440 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if I buy stuff on PayPal, then I must pay PayPal's currency conversion fees, which are way higher than the currency conversion I can get from my bank. But there's no way to actually use the cheaper fees at the bank: < 1473345574 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can transfer money from my bank to PayPal, but if I transfer anything but HUF, then I have to pay the international bank transfer fee, even if I'm transferring from my domestic foreign currency account to Paypal's domestic account, and that fee has a high fixed minimum regardless the amount. < 1473345593 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1473345607 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while I maintained a USD credit card for that exact reason < 1473345620 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nowadays I don't buy through paypal often enough for it to matter < 1473345668 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I can pay from a bank card with PayPal, but then they charge the card in the native currency of the bank card, and I can't cheaply have extra bank cards in multiple currencies, even though I totally can have _accounts_ in those currencies, for the extra cards are either inpossible or have a high monthlyfee. < 1473345733 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could save on the costs only if I transferred a large amount of money to PayPal at a single time, but for that I'd have to predict the currency I'm going to buy stuff on PayPal, and that's quite unpredictable: < 1473345746 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, all my income goes through PayPal right now, and that conversion business is kind of annoying. < 1473345761 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :People sell things on PayPal in USD or CAD (from Asia or America) and in GBP or EUR (from Europe). < 1473345812 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473345827 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try to change to another bank for this, for if another bank gives better conditions, I could transfer, though it could be a bit of a hassle. < 1473345838 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to go ask other banks. < 1473345871 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473345904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't buy expensive stuff in PayPal, only cheap stuff. < 1473346119 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473346166 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale, you aren't a face I see in here often < 1473346201 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, to be fair, might be because I don't pay attention very much < 1473346241 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or because you don't see faces on irc < 1473346286 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, well, *you* don't < 1473346299 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of irc are you using? < 1473346330 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :long ago i used kvirc and it had some protocol for avatars < 1473346371 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, you could try having a really vivid imagination < 1473346381 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even d&d < 1473346465 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the extra problem is, I'm not even sure I can actually transfer currencies other than HUF to PayPal. They only give a single bank account number for transfer, and I'm not sure it's possible for a single account number to receive multiple currencies. I called their customer support, < 1473346497 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the lady said I probably can transfer other currencies, but she's not sure, and I should try. And to try, I have to pay the expensive bank transfer fee regardless the amount. < 1473346596 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, calling their customer support on phone is an international call, which also costs a shitton. < 1473346607 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: shachaf told me to join when I wrote https://hackage.haskell.org/package/category-printf and I just stuck around, but haven't had much occasion to say a whole lot < 1473346630 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale, ooh, I hadn't seen thtat! < 1473346726 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you guys have a plan for world domination that seems better than mine and has the side effect of getting rid of this riddiculous "country" and "international" stuff, drop me a line and I might consider supporting you. < 1473346750 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I've had enough of this stupid politics, and maybe an evil dictator ruling with an iron fist could be better. < 1473346793 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473346908 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale, my current "esoteric" project is a property testing library called OneCheck < 1473346942 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tests each property with arbitrary input! One arbitrary input, for speed concerns < 1473346981 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473347073 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1473347099 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could take advantage of Data.Default < 1473347104 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So like QuickCheck but quicker? < 1473347126 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale, I'm going more arbitrary than that < 1473347140 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Taneb/acme-onecheck/blob/master/src/Test/OneCheck.hs < 1473347153 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's QC is more gratuitous speculation about how to have sex with robots. ...I guess that's fine, now the name of the comic finally makes sense. < 1473347327 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473348333 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473348651 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1473349444 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473350122 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473351128 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most niche data structre I invented then forgot about: the two in one tree heap < 1473351146 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A key-key-value thingy that's search tree-ordered on one key and heap-ordered on the other < 1473351220 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, do you specify 2 keys to get a value, < 1473351224 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you specify one of the two? < 1473351228 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter < 1473351305 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get the worst onetime whenever possible? < 1473351342 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, assuming the keys aren't correlated, the time complexities aren't too bad < 1473352786 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473353973 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473354571 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: implement it! < 1473354599 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I'm implementing it right now < 1473354626 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1473354723 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you know how heapsort makes a heap in an array using power of two offsets... Maybe there should be something like qsort() and bsearch() that uses a heap search < 1473355034 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what is the advantage? so that you don't have to maintain 2 data structures with the same data? < 1473355042 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. memory efficiency) < 1473355054 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I'm not sure there is one < 1473355165 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a data structure that doesnt exist but should < 1473355202 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1473355207 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :an insertion-ordered CompletionRecordDAWG < 1473355239 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Directed Acyclic Wiggly Graph? < 1473355262 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a DAWG is a DAFSA < 1473355272 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :directed acyclic word graph < 1473355277 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaah < 1473355347 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be a dictionary that maps string keys to ... whatever, but also can give you a list of keys that are prefixes of any string and tell you which key comes before and after a given key in insertion order < 1473357034 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473357277 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473359304 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473359988 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473360238 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no expert, but I'm not sure that this test suite I wrote should start swapping < 1473361232 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-012-189-009.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473361401 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473361468 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473362832 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473362977 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473363048 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473363190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473363597 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473365074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473365564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473366123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473366656 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473366849 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473367784 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473367824 0 :mellifluous!~frait@87.18.7.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473367830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Can one use non-euclidean geometry when drawing perspective to get OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL drawings? )
< 1473367882 0 :mellifluous!~frait@87.18.7.17 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1473368017 0 :mellifluous!~frait@87.18.7.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473368025 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Imagine a hollow cube, with inset openings on each face. Now imagine that each opening went to a different place. < 1473368035 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473368037 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if that would actually scare someone... < 1473368044 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473368070 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-euclidean geometry is overrated. < 1473368111 0 :mellifluous!~frait@87.18.7.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473368122 0 :lorenzo64!~frait@87.18.7.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473368253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473368738 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473368805 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473368965 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473369029 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473370503 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473371090 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473371397 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473371842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1473371844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring//Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them. < 1473371854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1473371855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1473371855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1473371855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1473371856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :locale//Locales are just frames, which are just complete Heyting algebras. Taneb accidentally invented them by asking about lattices. The only locale available in #esoteric is en_NZ.UTF-8. < 1473371857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wumpus//Wumpus the Hunted is an early 70s action game in which the Wumpus is trapped in a dodecahedral labyrinth where it's chased by bats. It has to avoid traps and evade magical arrows that are guided by a nefarious AI. < 1473371857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghoti//"Ghoti" is a very fishy spelling. < 1473371857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :szoup//A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1473371888 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is that true? You invented locales? < 1473371893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Did you invent pointless topology? < 1473371939 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, locales I invented, but only locally < 1473371997 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I never really saw the point in topology < 1473371998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Are you guilty of inventing frames? < 1473372010 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, someone set me up on that one < 1473372037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? frame < 1473372038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A frame is just a complete Heyting algebra. Frame homomorphisms don't preserve implication, if you know what I mean. < 1473372107 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like what you're implying there < 1473372217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1473372638 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSTS is terrible but I can propose a better way: There is a menu that the user can set up arbitrary URI rewriting, and one option can set whether or not automatically adding rules is allowed (disabled by default). If automatically adding rules is allowed by the user setting, then the Strict-Transport-Security header can be used to automatically add/remove rules in this menu, except for rules which the user has locked. < 1473372738 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reporting of errors should not be done, and the user can always override the error; a setting may be provided to only enable the override after a specified number of milliseconds (something that Firefox does with download dialog boxes currently). < 1473372828 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The setting for HPKP should be separate, and if enabled, then when there is error the user should be given the options: "Bypass", "New Context", "Change Settings", "Edit HPKP Data", "View Report", "Send Report". < 1473373228 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473373247 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the semantics of "insert" should be on a treap < 1473373337 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg8er2ydh57cmqd.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473373402 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1473373428 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose Jool just rose in the east. you're moving 175 m/s east, so toward Jool. on the other side of kerbin, jool is setting in the west, so the other ship will be moving at 175 m/s away from jool. hence, relative to a ship on the other side of Kerbin, you are moving at 350 m/s. < 1473373441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, wrong channel < 1473373462 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, a treap is a purely functional data structure (I am writing this in Haskell) that is a binary tree that is heap ordered by one key and tree ordered by another < 1473373516 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure if insert should clobber other entries with the same tree-ordering key < 1473373528 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by tree-ordered I mean ordered like a binary search tree) < 1473373556 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I take it that the semimajor and inclanation of the two orbits are the same < 1473373685 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: at least for the purposes of mutual docking < 1473373695 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473373729 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473374002 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473374184 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473374250 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473375132 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473376561 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1473376584 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1473376615 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :qualifications to be here: I spent a day of work trying to command an FTP server to join IRC and talk in a channel < 1473376617 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473376620 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1473376697 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1473376713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wrote an irc client in ftp? < 1473376733 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... sounds weird < 1473376745 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FTP is pretty weird. < 1473376748 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, didn't you write a compiler in Bash < 1473376763 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes but it compiles brainfuck to bash < 1473376770 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does several optimizations < 1473376786 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that hard, optimizations aside < 1473376840 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to implement the fancy brainfuck optimization thingy I thought up to see if it actually works < 1473376850 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do tell < 1473376912 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use FTP from client C to transfer files from server A to server B without passing through C (and without collecting $200). < 1473376916 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned it a while back, I think, basically stuff like [->+++>++>-<<] can be turned into b += a * 3; c += a * 2; d -= a; a = 0 < 1473376920 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473376929 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then extending that to nested loops < 1473376953 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah mine does that but nesting isn't too trivial < 1473376967 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which in some circumstances become quadratics, etc < 1473377017 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sending commands to an FTP server that made it use an IRC server as a place to send the contents of a file to. < 1473377029 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's skipping a lot of detail, but I hope it condenses things enough.) < 1473377045 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you succeed, though? < 1473377063 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly one server I tried requires replying to "PING a_new_value" with "PONG a_new_value" < 1473377071 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I've heard they do that. < 1473377086 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do that because I'd need to know a_new_value when constructing the payload to send to the FTP server. < 1473377104 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense, since that's exactly why they do that. < 1473377107 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Freenode's does, though. < 1473377147 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode did something different. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't join channels here. < 1473377172 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could set a nick, and see that freenode thought I was connected, but the FTP server couldn't actually join a channel. < 1473377182 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas running it myself using netcat did work. < 1473377196 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something I hope Taneb might help me play with when he's back. < 1473377351 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473377361 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome is planning to deprecate HTTP/0.9 for somewhat similar cross-protocol confusion reasons. < 1473377872 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1473377922 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does your nick sound vaguely familiar, _46bit... < 1473378008 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1473378012 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :#herbstluftwm < 1473378023 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed! < 1473378034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome _46bit < 1473378036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06_46bit: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1473378037 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must admit, I didn't get much further than very enjoying it < 1473378039 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah < 1473378044 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1473378046 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1473378071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: Are you the person Taneb mentioned? < 1473378079 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was doing some very complex cybersecurity teaching things all summer, and getting to know that too was more than I had mindspace for < 1473378085 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb may have mentioned me. < 1473378097 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :however Taneb knows many more people than me. < 1473378110 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, _46bit was indeed the person I mentioned < 1473378113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is well-known around here. < 1473378113 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one singular personb < 1473378116 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was actually a little unnerving: < 1473378117 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ci51ntp6cmfiei/Screenshot%202016-09-08%2023.40.50.png?dl=0 < 1473378121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a Glaswegian inventor, I think? < 1473378130 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of red and rainbows! < 1473378139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome _46bit < 1473378140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1473378142 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1473378163 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh, I already thought the word "botloop" < 1473378168 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION backs away from the keyboard
< 1473378185 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see me poking around HackEgo, kindly kick me < 1473378188 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1473378231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many bots here, and many botloops already achieved. < 1473378233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1473378233 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1473378238 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted < 1473378244 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1473378245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1473378269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You invented Tanebventions? I didn't know that. < 1473378322 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, where does it say that? < 1473378324 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented Taneb < 1473378334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's in the list. < 1473378362 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am curious what Taneb mentioned about me. But that risks dropping Taneb in it, so to speak. < 1473378370 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473378442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he mentioned that you were using an FTP client to connect to an IRC server, for one. < 1473378446 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473378455 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you know everyone < 1473378459 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473378462 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, no < 1473378467 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard you also know kline at least < 1473378478 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have met kline on at least two occasions < 1473378485 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps three! < 1473378490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you know anyone you don't know? < 1473378501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metar < 1473378503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metar is a service that allows nerds to talk about the weather. < 1473378503 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1473378520 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi < 1473378521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd metar//s#that#Taneb invented &# < 1473378523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/metar//metar is a service Taneb invented that allows nerds to talk about the weather. < 1473378525 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, three, yes < 1473378542 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice with keir and once with GTMU < 1473378610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I met kline even once. < 1473378623 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's your fault for being in California < 1473378628 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither did I, yet < 1473378629 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1473378634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly is in California? < 1473378637 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1473378653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe FireFly ought to move to California. < 1473378654 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1473378659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good excuse for not meeting kline. < 1473378666 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1473378673 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's concievable you've met _46bit though! < 1473378678 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm more likely to meet kline than move to California, in the foreseeable future < 1473378698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How would that happen? < 1473378708 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit, explain! < 1473378749 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent some time YCstartupping in Palo Alto back in 2012-13. < 1473378759 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's what Taneb is referring to. < 1473378760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1473378766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lived in East Palo Alto at the time. < 1473378800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is YCstartupping different from regular startupping? < 1473378812 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, out by the marshes and things? < 1473378812 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1473378827 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get lots of egostroking and free stuff, for one < 1473378836 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :although free stuff has become more widely available since < 1473378837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I ever heard about Dreamforge. < 1473378847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lived right on the border of PA and EPA. < 1473378853 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, I'm being researched. < 1473378880 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard little about EPA other than that they have a lot of work to do near where I lived. < 1473378884 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Wrong EPA. < 1473378884 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit, within half an hour of me joining this channel they guessed the small town I lived in < 1473378894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Berkeley now. < 1473378907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I get lots of egostroking and free stuff, please? < 1473378943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegian < 1473378944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1473378947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1473378948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1473378957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1473378973 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had mentioned a) it was in Northumberland, and b) it was raining heavily < 1473378987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? northumberland < 1473378988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Northumberland may be today a sparsely populated country... but SOON! THE NORTHUMBRAINS SHALL RISE! < 1473378994 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess which settlement in the midwest I've visited? < 1473378998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits northumberland < 1473379000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull Taneb < 1473379013 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. is Jackson Hole even midwest? it's kinda west. < 1473379027 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit, I went to the midwest once! It was before I went to California < 1473379028 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was three < 1473379056 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :you went to the midwest three? < 1473379063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Did you go to Minnesota? < 1473379069 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the hateful eight but as children? < 1473379077 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I am not sure, on account of being three < 1473379080 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very possible, though < 1473379098 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, we did go to Montana, if that helps < 1473379138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: When will you be in California again? < 1473379147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can deliver certain items to Taneb. < 1473379160 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as I graduat--oh no, Taneb is here, I can't tell y'all that < 1473379161 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, looking at a map, it's very unlikely I went to Minnesota < 1473379197 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473379201 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am considering options post-graduation. If H1Bs were easier to acquire I would most surely be coming over to Boston or California. < 1473379202 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colorado, South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming I think < 1473379206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be sure to convey that information to shachaf, looking at a map. < 1473379215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about shachaf, looking at a computer? < 1473379224 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to get an O1 before I parted ways with the startup, but that's not such an option now. < 1473379225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: None of those seem very midwestern to me. < 1473379233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: Why not get an O-1 now? < 1473379240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :US visas are scow. < 1473379247 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, the midwest is a lot further east than I thought < 1473379274 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's west of the midwest? < 1473379281 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, midwest includes chicago right? < 1473379281 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the west < 1473379290 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have Mountain Time < 1473379295 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mountain west of the midwest? < 1473379342 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I saw the four headed president, trapped in the rock < 1473379344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most things are west of the midwest. < 1473379348 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :President Rushmore < 1473379369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: California is pretty good. < 1473379378 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: You could get a J-1 probably? < 1473379384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you already had one. < 1473379392 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fascinating place as a slightly-uptight public-schooled Brit. < 1473379414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"public-school" means the opposite in the UK and in the US, right? < 1473379416 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit, is that public school in the British sense or the American sense < 1473379423 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be able to J-1. I need to examine my options very carefully soon. < 1473379445 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US seems unlikely, and yet a few people seem at risk of launching a campaign to acquire me. < 1473379449 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473379455 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already get photobooks of Cambridge, MA in the post. < 1473379461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: Maybe if you get your FTP IRC client working they'll give you an O-1 based on that accomplishment. < 1473379484 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if only the world works that way :D which, honestly, I think it does. < 1473379487 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to look to see where I'd like to do postgrad < 1473379493 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the UK sense < 1473379511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: move to california with _46bit hth < 1473379606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn _46bit is a slightly-uptight public-schooled Brit. Taneb invented him. < 1473379608 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '_46bit': _46bit is a slightly-uptight public-schooled Brit. Taneb invented him. < 1473379712 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473379751 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I predate Taneb < 1473379757 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Northumberland? Is that like a Numberwang? < 1473379758 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as far as y'all're concerned < 1473379761 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1473379796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You predate Taneb? < 1473379805 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented a lot of things that predated him < 1473379807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that needs to go on the wall < 1473379812 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: yes, many irc servers other than freenode require a pong to start your connection. sometimes they even send a NOTICE to you about it so you can PONG manually even if your irc client is stupid. < 1473379814 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't underestimate the power of inventions < 1473379817 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tanebventions < 1473379821 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, a lot of things predate Taneb < 1473379828 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Go < 1473379829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common irregular verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes catching monsters in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1473379830 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most people in here except for maybe Phantom_Hoover predate Taneb < 1473379855 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seems a most charming place. < 1473379855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473379856 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I have no idea how predatey most people in here are < 1473379862 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :With charming people. < 1473379867 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a curious place < 1473379868 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wolfram < 1473379869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him. < 1473379910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spämmi! < 1473379922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the usual nilfisk stuff) < 1473379926 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and I forgot AUD among the currencies. < 1473379939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps _46bit is Taneb's natural predator. < 1473379957 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's a pretty good idea. Freenode did not, but I'm convinced the system blocked my attempt some other way. I need to watch the traffic with wireshark or something to see what happened. < 1473379958 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, _46bit has had many opportunities to eat me and as far as I am aware has not yet < 1473379977 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe every time I eat Taneb, a nested universe begins. < 1473379979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't we all < 1473379985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universe < 1473379986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A universe is a poem in one stanza. < 1473380004 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prng < 1473380005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prng? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473380009 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's maybe four people in here I've met in person? < 1473380021 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: did you use a generic nickname that's not registered on freenode? and did you make sure your USER and NICK lines (and any other optional lines you sent) were formed correctly? < 1473380026 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in the same city as fizzie for a little bit last December but I don't think I saw him < 1473380043 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm heading to bed < 1473380044 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1473380058 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I piped the exact same commands into netcat and it succeeded. < 1473380083 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: hmm < 1473380094 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's all sorts of reasons that isn't an identical test to abusing ProFTPD, of course. < 1473380107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've met at least four people here in person, not including myself. < 1473380134 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: maybe the ftp middle host you used was banned, or their open proxy scanner automatically detects open ftp servers that are so dumb as to connect to them < 1473380156 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1473380168 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was building a learnign exercise to be used in UK Computer Science courses. To demonstrate abusing services for scanning a private network, I reincarnated the FTP Bounce exploit into ProFTPD. http://www.ouah.org/ftpbounce.html < 1473380176 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If anyone's curious.) < 1473380186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why 46 bits? < 1473380188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 64-46 < 1473380190 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 18 < 1473380195 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Nope, it was all local, behind NAT. < 1473380222 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe the machine has the ftp server connected to an identd in such a way that the identd tells freenode not to believe anything the connection from ftp says. < 1473380223 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a reason but it seems I'll have to watch the network traffic to know what - too many possible variables. < 1473380262 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :46bit arose from me as a teenager needing an online handle I liked < 1473380266 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :and swapping 64bit around < 1473380277 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finding the resulting nick used nowhere < 1473380299 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, '46bit' is available < 1473380302 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you ought to group it < 1473380306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because it starts with a digit. < 1473380310 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh < 1473380311 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1473380320 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you can't change to nicks that start with a digit, you can only get them when the server sets one on you < 1473380334 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occasionally gets taken on super-populated communities, so I resort to 0x2Ebit in those cases < 1473380336 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which they do only for a nick collision when servers connect after a netsplit < 1473380356 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's a shame, but the IRC RFC does specify no opening digit < 1473380360 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it'd set an erroneous nickname even in that case < 1473380364 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :(someone in #cs-york checked for me) < 1473380376 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: the IRC RFC specifies a lot of things that actual servers don't hold < 1473380381 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee, I know < 1473380394 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's been lots of changes and differences between networks < 1473380397 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and few documentation < 1473380402 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I found a place where I didn't need the underscore, but I'm much less willing to experiment < 1473380422 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZNC and irssi have too many commands and things for me to want to fiddle < 1473380423 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much that when I want to find out something about irc, the best way is usually to ask on #freenode, which has people who know more about it < 1473380431 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1473380452 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, some things I can just try < 1473380506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some of my questions are untestable, because they concern unlikely scenarios, like ordering between multiple servers or behavior at netsplits < 1473380508 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why the hell is there a "Woman's Grandmaster" FIDE title? < 1473380538 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in athletics, gender-segregation makes some degree of sense because men are naturally better-equipped for athletic tasks because evolution < 1473380552 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Chess is as far from athletic as you get, so why is there a woman's grandmaster title? < 1473380566 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: tradition. chess had gender differences because people simply refused to teach high level chess to women < 1473380574 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah? < 1473380576 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days there's much less difference < 1473380581 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could an AI be eligible for it? < 1473380588 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And worse, normal GM isn't gender restricted; WGM is only for women, AND it has a lower barrier of entry < 1473380600 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's basically "we'll make this easier for you because you're a girl" < 1473380608 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is sexist to BOTH genders < 1473380623 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: no, there's separate categories for chess by just computers and for chess by computer combined with humans. they're needed because humans are now much weaker in chess than computers. < 1473380738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr Judith Polgar being one of the few women to be successful at the ordinary GM < 1473380764 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, and she refused to take the WGM title too < 1473380768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Judit Polgár < 1473380777 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(she had a policy of only playing in non-gender-segregated tournaments) < 1473380794 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL titles stack in german < 1473380824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned that quite a while ago, from irregular webcomic! < 1473380856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when colonel Haken tried to greet the eldest Jones properly) < 1473380913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course that turned into an Overly Long Gag) < 1473380950 0 :Effilry!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1473380999 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 615 seconds < 1473381024 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjoerjan < 1473381028 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, does copying Susan B. Anthony still work these days? < 1473381077 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider this a most successful entry into #esoteric. < 1473381078 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I find more to talk about tomorrow. < 1473381080 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1473381082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember who that is < 1473381108 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_B._Anthony < 1473381109 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello, His Holy Eminence Brother Miss Doctor Reverend-Deacon Pastor-Priest Pope Cardinal Arch|+Bishop Sensei Saint Jones." < 1473381114 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: you could find less, and idle harder < 1473381118 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The three-and-a-halfth" < 1473381121 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an American < 1473381163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list of wikipedia references that Judit Polgár is the strongest female player of all time is ridiculously long :P < 1473381166 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I tend to cull idle IRC channels. My irssi theme doesn't work so well with them. < 1473381189 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: this is not an idle channel, with or without you < 1473381205 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: nothing wrong with idling in an nonidle channel when you don't have anything to say < 1473381249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`adieu _46bit < 1473381250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: adieu: not found < 1473381251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1473381253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1473381257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1473381259 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1473381263 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should implement that < 1473381270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my terminal had rendering issues < 1473381281 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hehe, now I'm reminded to that stupid channel with a bot that kicks everyone if they're idle for 24 hours (that's also the channel that used to use a byte encoding, but they changed to utf-8 later, and I think stopped that stupid bot) < 1473381288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess made it look like i really like charles schwab corporation < 1473381314 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kept showing "schw" < 1473381335 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm...well it looked fine here < 1473381346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1473381389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: actually it was "The Honourable Herr Schliemannian Chair Professor Doktor Doktor Jones, CBE, DCM, JP, FRS" hth < 1473381411 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Doctor Doctor? < 1473381421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1347.html < 1473381442 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is that what happens when you have 2 different doktorates?) < 1473381462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsointopia < 1473381574 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, can we just call that one King James "King James III,V"? < 1473381595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: yep < 1473381601 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or III & I/II) < 1473381659 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The one who was James I in England and James VI in Scotland < 1473381680 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Do we still have to 2-numbers royals named "James" after James 2-numbers?) < 1473381744 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: he's got two doctorates, per http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1323.html , but I think the usual real-life way to get "Doctor" twice in your name is to be a women, get a doctorate, marry a men who has a doctorate, and take his name. < 1473381745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: you know that some people think the current queen should use I in scotland, too? < 1473381765 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case the two "Doctor" aren't adjacent though < 1473381805 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Or be a man who changes /his/ name < 1473381833 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like I told my sister any man she marries has to do; he changes his name.) < 1473381842 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: No, being married to a Doctor doesn't make you a Doctor < 1473381875 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you mean something like "Mr. & Ms. Dr. Smith", which I don't think is really correct < 1473381897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was probably considered correct at one time. < 1473381928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nowadays it sounds rather antifeminist < 1473381949 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: EXCELLENT < 1473381951 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahem < 1473381952 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1473381977 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you would usually say "Mr. & Ms. Smith", but one (or both) has a doctorate, are you supposed to do "Dr. & Ms. Smith"/"Mr. & Dr. Smith"/"Dr. and Dr. Smith" (though in the last case, I think "Drs. Smith" would be considered correct)) < 1473382019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think giving up and screaming is the correct approach there < 1473382062 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: I think Dr. and Dr. would be most appropriate < 1473382073 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473382090 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: & works too, but Drs. is just awesome < 1473382152 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Similarly, gay-married couples could be "Mss. Smith-Jones" or "Mrs. Smi"- oh, wait, the "Mrs." is a problem) < 1473382236 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still a fan of Dr*. as well < 1473382248 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dr. Dr*. Smith" < 1473382260 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: i don't think Drs. is standard except in the cases that all their last names are different. E.g. in a medical practice of "Drs. Smith, Klaxon, Blzzxxt, and Jones" < 1473382276 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well yeah, but it's so fun to say < 1473382280 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Doctors Smith" < 1473382285 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ick < 1473382291 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's fun < 1473382292 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds awkward < 1473382313 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: I'm quite sure some people here do have a Dr. in their name just because their husband has such a title. that doesn't make them a Doctor, but they have it in their name before the part of the name they took from their husband. < 1473382353 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even though we aren't speaking German so prefixes usually don't stack, some prefixes in English do stack (e.g. "Rv. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."), and Dr*. is put on the same level as Dr. and Rv. for that) < 1473382365 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: I think Drs. Smith and Smith would be fine < 1473382387 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That works too, but "A & A" is just "A" < 1473382394 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic boolean. < 1473382398 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fnord) < 1473382403 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: good thing names aren't booleans < 1473382407 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: Heinlein's novel ''The Rolling Stones'' has Mr. Stone (the husband) and Dr. Stone (the mother). < 1473382420 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1473382437 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this isn't even getting into metadoctors (Mdr.) < 1473382458 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That books has at least two completely names for six out of the seven main characters, used depending on who calls them that, and it's not explained at the start which names name the same people, so it was horibbly confusing to me < 1473382505 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For those logreading: Dr*. is read "Co-doctor" and is a title automatically given to the spouse of a doctor, and is on the same priority level as Dr., so a doctor married to another doctor would be "Dr. Dr.* Smith") < 1473382544 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most confusing part is that the twin brothers, who are approximately 16 years old, are called Castor and Pollux, but they call each other the nicknames Grandpa and Junior. < 1473382545 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Was this intentional? < 1473382553 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: I don't know. < 1473382580 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably no, maybe others pick it up more easily < 1473382617 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously, calling a 16 year old boy "Grandpa" and another one "Junior" (when he has a 4 year old brother) in a book without explanation is confusing < 1473382629 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe there should be an opposite of Dr. with an inherently bad connotation that's given to the child of a doctor. The only way to lose it is to get a doctorate yourself.) < 1473382632 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it does make sense for the twins to call them that < 1473382639 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's confusing for the readers < 1473382649 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It sounds like this was intentional < 1473382658 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, that it was MEANT to confuse you < 1473382674 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: I dunno, I never know with Heeinlein < 1473382984 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473382991 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473383288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: being the child of a doctor may be hard, but you just have to be patient < 1473383344 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes oerjan's swatter and swats em with it ----###
< 1473383378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my swatter, it's the wrong size hth < 1473383381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not my < 1473383394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid keyboard goblins < 1473383619 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1473383619 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "you know that some people think the current queen should use I in scotland, too?" => it seems crazy that the queen is bound by so many traditions that people would even debate this, rather than thinking that the queen has the right to get herself called whatever she wants. < 1473383653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> Today's QC is more gratuitous speculation about how to have sex with robots. ...I guess that's fine, now the name of the comic finally makes sense. <-- this comment was confusing coming right after a discussion of QuickCheck < 1473383753 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, "Gentleman" specifically refers to a man of "good, courteous conduct" (and lady to the female counterpart) < 1473383757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: this is britain. the monarchy is made of pure unadulterated traditions hth < 1473383779 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, I know < 1473383782 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would you use "Ladies and Gentlemen" when referring to a crowd where some members are not of good, courteous conduct? < 1473383795 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens in other monarchies too < 1473383797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ladies, gentlemen, and scoundrels < 1473383813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure some comedians must have done that < 1473383828 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's QC again? < 1473383852 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473383853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a webcomic with somewhat questionable content < 1473383925 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how many government institutes before 1914 were called "K & K" because the king is the emperor of Austria and the king of Hungary < 1473383978 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even after 1914 for a while I think < 1473384038 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the Steward of Gondor stuff < 1473384104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc finland still has laws that refer to kejsaren, aka the tsar or russia < 1473384176 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: here documents referred to the People's Republic for a while until they could rename everything < 1473384188 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, I'm getting a little confused. Is the correct spelling "bear with me" or "bare with me" when not saying "let's go be bears"?) < 1473384211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: the former i think. < 1473384221 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1473384224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're stripping. < 1473384230 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes "Bear with me" so much less funny < 1473384232 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right now < 1473384388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm possibly finland cleaned that up eventually too. i'm having trouble finding evidence. < 1473384390 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473384417 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, the coat of arms used to be present in a lot of places here, on official documents and government buildings and all the primary schools; but when the Republic was established, there were lots of more urgent stuff to do than to replace the signs everywhere, < 1473384425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/1269/is-it-bear-or-bare-with-me < 1473384437 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for a while you could see the People's Republic coat of arms on lots of buildings still. < 1473384520 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's been done long ago though, you can't find the old coat of arms or mentions of "People's Republic" anywhere. Instead they're replacing "Állami" to "Nemzeti" in the names of lots of institutions now. < 1473384822 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a Hat of Legs < 1473385418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1473385419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the axiom of choice, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1473385446 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? axiom of choice < 1473385447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :axiom of choice? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473385452 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor < 1473385459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s/y,/y, locales,/ < 1473385460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the axiom of choice, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1473385468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? locale < 1473385469 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locales are just frames, which are just complete Heyting algebras. Taneb accidentally invented them by asking about lattices. The only locale available in #esoteric is en_NZ.UTF-8. < 1473385483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom axiom < 1473385484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1473385518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits axiom of choice < 1473385520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473385535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s/the axiom of choice, // < 1473385538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1473385557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see stated policy in the logs. < 1473385806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : HSTS is terrible but I can propose a better way: There is a menu that the user can set up [...] <-- i'll state (reiterate?) what i consider obvious: the entire point of HSTS is to provide the right default for users who haven't thought carefully about their security. thus requiring a menu to enable it completely misses the purpose. < 1473385839 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473385846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*swap point and purpose above < 1473385858 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's kind of funny that UC wanted to make emoji more representative of race (because someone was doing it wrong by using actual skin colors) < 1473385867 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they added Fitzpatrick markup < 1473385891 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except they merged type 1 and type 2 (the two that would be classified as "white") into a single one < 1473385944 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "funny" I mean "a tiny bit racist, but of the variety that a non-white person could complain about but a white person can't, even to people they can complain about more overt racism to" < 1473385961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course a menu to adjust/disable it might be useful for power users. < 1473386076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( hppavilion[2] doesn't get to discuss PC issues more than twice a week... ) < 1473386086 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That was never a rule < 1473386097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it's in . o O ( ) hth < 1473386119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's happening in a hypothetical world where i'm less patient hth < 1473386132 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey should add a Hitler Emoji. With the note that you're required to support ALL fitzpatricks or not use it at all < 1473386151 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to insult Hitler even though he's already dead < 1473386347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure insulting hitler actually helps with anything other than feeling smug. < 1473386354 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1473386622 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473386755 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-115-87-126-243.revip4.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473386868 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update: it is probably not only expensive, but impossible for me to do a bank transfer in foreign currency to PayPal. < 1473387235 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: really? I haven't had any trouble paying things in rubles or USD on paypal < 1473387401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1473387451 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I can shop in other currencies by PayPal, but PayPal charges my card in HUF, so I pay PayPal's very expensive currency change rates rather than my bank's much cheaper rates < 1473387484 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it seems like the bank can offer such cheap currency conversion rates because it's practically impossible to actually do anything with those rates without additional high charges < 1473387508 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's false < 1473387533 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can most certainly pay with a bank card on a POS terminal in a foreign country to get the cheap rates. < 1473387568 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't use the cheap rates to shop online with PayPal, for which I'd like to pay in GBP or other currencies. < 1473387628 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spot_the_cow.gif < 1473387740 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :found the cow < 1473387741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1473387743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1473387760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1473387917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( wait, do all cows turn spherical when in a vacuum? ) < 1473388077 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473388113 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No, it's a cow named "Spot" < 1473388126 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1473388137 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( The Pope, at some point (it was Urban VIII apparently), declared the rules for how religious titles correspond to monarchical titles (Pope = King, Cardinal = Prince, and presumably Archbishop|Bishop = Archduke|Duke. Not sure where it goes from there.)
< 1473388149 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if there was an academic equivalent < 1473388263 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, what observable effect does that correspondence have? < 1473388391 0 :Effilry!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1473388395 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Not really sure? < 1473388447 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473388583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: table sittings hth < 1473388679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*positions < 1473388894 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473388910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : How can I get lots of egostroking and free stuff, please? <-- you live in berkeley, isn't that ego stroking enough? < 1473388928 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1473388978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess a berkeleyan would be the last to understand. < 1473389364 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473391212 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473391381 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.254.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473392481 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It can be enabled by default if you want to I suppose, but I think it shouldn't be. (Anyways I would want to use the web browser program which is for the experts only, because the other ones just aren't so good) < 1473393540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1473393626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it looks like the spammers have taken a break < 1473393661 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they often do that < 1473393669 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made filter 9 a little less restrictive recently < 1473393677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw that < 1473393681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because legitimate users were failing at reading comprehension < 1473393703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some of them are still failing at bothering to complete it < 1473393709 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or so it seems) < 1473393752 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could possibly get fizzie to disable anonymous editing in the site config? because it's effectively disabled anyway < 1473393753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except the users seem to have taken a break too. < 1473393762 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a quiet time for the Internet in general < 1473393773 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure why, but most of the other online forums I've been in have also seen a lull in activity < 1473393773 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473393785 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be that people are on holiday < 1473393817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah if we're keeping anonymous editing disabled, it's better to stop people before they've composed an edit < 1473393847 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could try disabling filter 9 for a bit and turning it back on the next time there's a spam attack? < 1473393854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i assume it's school/colleges picking up? < 1473393856 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not checking Esolang regularly any more < 1473393869 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a little too early for that < 1473393878 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that normally causes an increase rather than reduction in activity < 1473393888 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "september surge" is a good time for recruiting people to online communities < 1473393893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the problem with that is that we still haven't got an emergency halt button. < 1473393932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie was looking a bit into better filtering, but i think he only got as far as upgrading the wiki < 1473393942 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think an emergency stop button would be useful < 1473393954 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the odds that someone who knows where it is is online at the same time as the spammers are fairly low < 1473393996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we'd have to advertize it a bit < 1473394021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, *s < 1473394036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a rare show of solidarity, both British English and American English spell advertise with an s in all forms." < 1473394058 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's one of the only consistently -ise words < 1473394068 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's because it has a different etymology from the others < 1473394087 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, "advertise" doesn't really mean "make into an advert", but "make an advert about" < 1473394104 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and "advert" is IIRC an abbreviation for "advertisement" rather than the /stem/ of "advertisement") < 1473394124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : could be that people are on holiday <-- i think some countries have holidays at about this time, because the middle of summer is too hot for travelling or something. < 1473394245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, that also applies to destinations. < 1473394289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I tried to look up the etymology of "advert" on Wiktionary and my ad blocker blocked it < 1473394297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1473394342 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy enough to add an exception, I just found it amusing (and confusing before I figured out what was going on) < 1473394406 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it seems that "advertise" and "advertisement", although they share a root historically, diverged more recently than they were imported into English < 1473394429 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that the most likely theory about the spelling of "advertise" is that it was influenced by that of "advertisement" < 1473394444 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*diverged before they were imported into English < 1473394444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1473394534 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN2e4K9Jvug < 1473394580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs to stop clicking on \oren\'s links
< 1473394591 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have exceedingly diverging music tastes < 1473394824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should learn to be incredibly adverse to following links on IRC, like I am < 1473394828 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for a while I had my client block them altogether) < 1473394866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my client doesn't follow links, i have to cut and paste them. < 1473394954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's inside putty < 1473394987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't follow links from any random newbie < 1473395032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i do look at the domain. i'd probably not follow url shorteners unless i'm told what it is. < 1473395279 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473395654 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow YouTube links or URL shortener links, in general < 1473395687 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about links to YouTube's URL shortener (youtu.be)? < 1473395711 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't watch YouTube < 1473395714 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://www.kamogo.com/17 < 1473395723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what? < 1473395854 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that doesn't even work properly < 1473396373 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473396427 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pGuu8QMk6E < 1473396985 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.254.202 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473397128 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-ZUm9Pixc < 1473397237 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: a url shortener that runs some sort of distributed computing thing before redirecting < 1473397261 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as a DDOS attack < 1473397279 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes because that's what anyone wants with a url shortner < 1473397289 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :3s latency before being redirected < 1473397294 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you obviously would at first only redirect < 1473397315 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on DDOS day.... < 1473397353 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a wednesday? < 1473397356 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be a wednesday < 1473397375 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is friday < 1473397442 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: well, maybe you would track usage patterns before DDOS day, then schedule it for the day of the week with highest usage < 1473397446 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.254.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473397489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many url shorteners have some letency while they show advertizements < 1473397494 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Quit: bibibi < 1473397506 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never click them < 1473397596 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473399099 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have suggested before, to put texts of Magic: the Gathering cards into computer as RDF data (for example "Counter target spell" may become [:counter [:target :spell]]); this might then compile into something else to implement game in computer, or may be interpreted to implement game in computer. However, another advantage of this which was not the original point of it, is that you might make SPARQL queries to search for cards by effect instead o < 1473399106 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1473400099 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.254.202 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473401445 0 :lorenzo64!~frait@87.18.7.17 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473403136 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473405381 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473405947 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.251.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473407051 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.251.224 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473407416 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473407483 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.251.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473408058 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473408193 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473408507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1473409219 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@49.229.251.224 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473409859 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a LL parser be extended so that right sides of productions can be DFAs? How does this affect what it is capable of recognizing? < 1473410353 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473410356 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473410487 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473410777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473411165 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:1cbc:d916:14c0:6bcf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473412190 0 :_46bit!?@? NICK :\46bit < 1473412218 0 :\46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION did not know one could backslash instead of underscore
< 1473412388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ is upper-case | in IRC. < 1473412398 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473412753 0 :\46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1473412948 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now known as 💩
< 1473413024 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning < 1473413133 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallo < 1473413773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME TANEB < 1473413775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANEB: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: . (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON EFNET OR DALNET.) < 1473413798 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you not be so loud I've only just woken up < 1473413878 0 :\46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`RELCOME TANEB < 1473413879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: RELCOME: not found < 1473413887 0 :\46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably a good thing < 1473413900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\46bit: please be respectful of Taneb's wishes twh < 1473413930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1473413931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1473413938 0 :\46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :-) < 1473413939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? histogram < 1473413941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Histograms are diagrams showing histamine levels. Taneb invented them. < 1473413958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1473413960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are an overt complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. < 1473413963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1473413969 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I didn't realize filter 9 effectively disables anonymous editing; turning it off "properly" SGTM. < 1473413970 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473413972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambek's lemma < 1473413973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambek's Lemma, invented by Joachim "Taneb" Lambek, states that initial algebras have inverses. < 1473413974 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I didn't realize filter 9 effectively disables anonymous editing; turning it off "properly" SGTM. < 1473413974 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473413997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do non-Google people use "SGTM"? < 1473414008 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Non-Google Chrome developers do. < 1473414013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so, but then someone in another channel said it was a Google thing. < 1473414017 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? SGTM < 1473414018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sergeant Mustard < 1473414023 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1473414026 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway for years my sister thought it meant "silently giggling to myself". < 1473414045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :She thought I was laughing at her whenever anything good happened. < 1473414106 0 :\46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unfortunate < 1473414152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome people don't count. < 1473414188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? klein bottles < 1473414189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ klein bottles? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473414193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? klein bottle < 1473414194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ klein bottle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473414197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1473414201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -i klein wisdom < 1473414201 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the Internet, it's general "Internet slang", but I have to say I don't recall hearing it much (if at all) pre-Google. < 1473414209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: math:Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. \ wisdom/klein bottle:A Klein bottle is like a torus, but more insidious. Taneb tried to invent it, but got trapped inside. < 1473414221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, double space. < 1473414247 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone can get trapped inside a klein bottle it's me < 1473414248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan was that pun truly an accident? twh < 1473414324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1473414325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1473414710 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: In my logs there are 31 instances of 'sgtm', all but two of which are from #esoteric; most are from >= 2105, but there's 6 from 2013 (4x shachaf, 2x kmc); the two non-#esoteric instances are from ##c and #nethack. < 1473414718 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you can deduce anything from that. < 1473414764 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except that I need a full-text index for my logs, the query was SO SLOW.) < 1473414870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an extra data center hth < 1473414993 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should switch to logging protos, then I'd be more motivated to build tools for browsing them. < 1473415023 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it is, I tend to just grep over the raw files instead of even querying the db. < 1473415040 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why that's a problem, but it feels like a problem. < 1473415071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What's a good tool to run various queries on a proto-based log format? < 1473415082 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dremel, I guess. < 1473415087 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I can use. < 1473415218 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is one. Uh, upload it into Storage and use BigQuery? (I think that's just Dremel.) < 1473415313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I can run locally. < 1473415326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think there was one either, but I was hoping to be wrong. < 1473415389 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should probably be something jq-like for protos. < 1473415461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1473415632 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole "not self-describing" thing makes that a little less appealing. < 1473415890 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a silly script that runs daily to fetch account balances for my pay-as-you-go phone account (they're very bad at providing any records), it writes the results into sqlite but for some unfathomable reason (temporary insanity?) also logs in protos. < 1473416195 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still like to advocate brainfuck interpreters where the cells are in Z/pZ for some prime p < 1473416242 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like p = 127 or 257 for this) < 1473416311 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7giqbv3mfhygs.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473416399 0 :\46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't quite figure out what that would look like, Taneb. < 1473416444 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473416462 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\46bit, basically, it'd mean that balanced loops that don't contain , on the conditional cell either always halt or never halt < 1473416480 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can decide this at compile time < 1473416519 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(balanced with regards to < and >, that is each iteration tests the same cell) < 1473416571 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Z/nZ is a field! :D < 1473416628 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a surjective homomorphism from the algebraic-structure-describing-the-increment-operation from the naturals to it < 1473416651 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is useful for brainfuck < 1473416661 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that might in fact be a monoid homomorphism but I am not sure) < 1473416683 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: So does [[-]>,[-<+>]<] always halt or not? It doesn't contain a , on the conditional cell, and is balanced. < 1473416738 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hmm. < 1473416748 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not always halt or not < 1473416754 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have rethink slightly < 1473416791 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to add the condition "Does not contain a nested loop affecting the conditional cell" < 1473417465 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay I'm listening to a talk about Malbolge... < 1473417656 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473417803 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1473418213 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The difficult task of writing a general program in Malbolge was completed for real in 2005 by Hisashi Iizawa, Toshiki Sakabe, Masahiko Sakai, Keiichirou Kusakari, and Naoki Nishida." ... I had not realized that I know two of these people. < 1473418245 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Masahiko Sakai is the speaker) < 1473419296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :  < 1473425538 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1473426072 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473427495 0 :actuator!~actuator@c-68-32-213-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473427546 0 :actuator!~actuator@c-68-32-213-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1473427819 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473427868 0 :actuator!~actuator@c-68-32-213-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PART #esoteric : < 1473428370 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:1cbc:d916:14c0:6bcf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473428602 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473429885 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473431230 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473432933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49698&oldid=47353 5* 03Malbranche 5* (+129) 10/* External resources */ Link to Brainfuck interpreter proving Turing-completeness < 1473433117 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473433174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Malbranche14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49699&oldid=47305 5* 03Malbranche 5* (+162) 10Work on Malbolge Unshackled < 1473433361 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473433362 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473433623 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473434224 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473434757 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... I was going through self-hosting file storage solutions, and the 2 good ones required PHP, one of which had an unexplained libselinux dependency. And they all require that you have a device with enough storage capacity for all the files. < 1473435110 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473435204 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473435584 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-repszpdpotvwrdad QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1473435598 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473436260 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473436765 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473437066 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By "device with enough storage capacity for all the files", I was referring to the server. Just realized that might be ambiguous. Nowadays, servers tend to have less space than the clients...) < 1473437210 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473437515 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you consider the most important feature to implement in a df like after digging? < 1473437559 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats < 1473437574 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then again, I'm insane) < 1473437583 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and/or like cats. pick any 1.) < 1473437600 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to say workshops < 1473438025 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-odagcpnkuudahyae JOIN :#esoteric < 1473439036 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: objects that can be moved using stockpiles < 1473439048 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473439164 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, items in general. i have to look for graphics < 1473439197 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what graphics? < 1473439228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not using characters? < 1473439231 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first stuff i am going to make is probably stone, wood and barrels < 1473439240 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not < 1473439254 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may, if i don't find somebody to make graphics in the long run < 1473439282 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :▬ <- a brown one of these. wood. done. < 1473439354 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :• <- gray. stone. done. < 1473439358 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need tilesets nontheless :) < 1473439375 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could of course use emojis! < 1473439391 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could, yeah < 1473439408 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, i just wildly modify an existing game < 1473439424 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the non-emoji character variants of emojis, if you still want each object to be one character cell < 1473439498 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have a small problems with ramps to fix < 1473439502 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☂ <- This is a pine wood and horse leather umbrella. It is of the utmost quality. < 1473439514 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1473439527 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473439571 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is hung with rings of rose gold and amber, and inlaid with a picture in rat bones of Ugrak the Orc. Ugrak is weeping. < 1473439617 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is way more advanced than what i am going to do for now < 1473439632 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not planing to do different stones for now, at all < 1473439646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The picture relates to the imprisonment in Woodsgelding of Ugrak the Orc in 1348 < 1473439692 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i need to write a name generator some time < 1473439937 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump appeared on RT to praise Putin < 1473439980 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he wins, the cold war is over, with victory to Russia < 1473442621 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZREQWva082s < 1473442658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473442721 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473442738 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I'm very proud of myself now, even if what I did was by accident. < 1473442752 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i wouldn't understand a word without subs < 1473442756 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And might not have even worked. < 1473442845 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" the "september surge" is a good time for recruiting people to online communities" -- what? < 1473442850 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what September surge/ < 1473442853 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Yeah Stack is not good at english... < 1473442866 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the rush to the shops to buy useless stuff to schoolchildren? < 1473442891 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess some kids might get new laptops at that time < 1473442906 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, they do < 1473442919 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tablets and smartphones and whatever they use these days < 1473442951 0 :\46bit!?@? NICK :[46bit < 1473442972 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was a reference to the phenomenon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September is about. < 1473443045 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION leans back in his comfy chair staring at this channel on a huge monitor with smug superiority radiating the belief that the large noisy box next to him is a better way to enjoy this text chat than those fancy tiny devices
< 1473443111 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I think I was told a lot of people have now used the interwebs for the first time over a smartphone. < 1473443128 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/06/smartphones-most-popular-way-to-browse-internet-ofcom < 1473443165 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my little cousin didn't know that you could get youtube on a laptop < 1473443168 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait, is that even possible? < 1473443188 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :until I showed him a few weeks ago < 1473443206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes, if the "people" in question are 6 years old < 1473443287 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Why wouldn't it be possible? < 1473443307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see the text now... < 1473443325 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dunno, < 1473443332 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To improve the overall user experience, Youtube users are required to have WebGL 2, which means you have to support OpenGL ES 3. THIS MEANS YOU, IRONLAKE USERS." < 1473443364 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cue mass shift to youtube-dl* < 1473443368 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: your little cousin is stupid < 1473443371 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there i said it < 1473443372 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To him, I'm some ancient relic who went to a party in the year 2000. < 1473443400 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the year 2000 is 10 years before he was born < 1473443426 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the equivalent of someone talking to me about 1983 < 1473443461 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or talking to my dad about like 1946 < 1473443473 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mobile-only internet usage is also becoming more common, driven predominantly by Millennials, of which 21 percent are no longer using desktop computers to go online." < 1473443478 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Back in the day, those awesome graphics cards were branded ATI! You hear me? A! T! I!" < 1473443504 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The merger happened in 2010, so your little cousin would not know of this.) < 1473443506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is this "protos" you mention? < 1473443522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Protobufs. You know, protocol buffers. < 1473443525 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no way. even back then NVDIA cards were more awesome, just more expensive too. < 1473443565 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrox is where it's at. < 1473443616 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back in the day, the USA wasn't at war in the middle east < 1473443636 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had at least a Matrox Mystique 220, a G200 and a G450. < 1473443655 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the president was named "Bill Clinton" < 1473443657 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :mplayer had a custom 'mga' output driver for hardware-accelerated video on them. V. fancy. < 1473443660 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. Think about it this way. AMD's easier on the drivers under some conditions, and if you're worried it's not powerful enough... seriously, please, for the love of all that you know, avoid anything marked "i3 M370". < 1473443674 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473443676 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should recalibrate your definition of power. < 1473443722 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and we had mouse with two buttons, and 14 inch CRT monitors with 100 hertz refresh rate and way more vivid colors than what you have now on these TFTs, and a Gmail with no "delete" button. < 1473443745 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the most awesome internet games were written in Shockwave Flash < 1473443760 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which your ipad can't even run < 1473443799 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither can my laptop with arch < 1473443804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there an xkcd about the delete button in gmail? < 1473443805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find it < 1473443805 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473443858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the prime minister was Jean Chretien < 1473443878 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jean Chretien"? Never heard of them. < 1473443890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Chr%C3%A9tien < 1473443891 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes looking
< 1473443904 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1473443907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's famous for punching a heckler in the face < 1473443922 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, basically, one of the few rare politicians that ever did anything. < 1473443925 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what? wasn't Chretien prime minister only a few years ago? < 1473443936 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no < 1473443940 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time runs fast < 1473443951 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: no. then there was paul martin, and then stephen goddamnhim harper < 1473443960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1473443976 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing harper, whoever they are, was not very good at government? < 1473443991 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or he literally had "Goddamnhim" as a middle name. < 1473444003 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I understand some people say he ruined canada or something < 1473444011 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473444012 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really follow politics on the other side of the pond < 1473444018 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor here much, mind you) < 1473444052 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow politics, in general, that much. < 1473444059 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: basically he allowed Canada's economy to become way too tied to oil < 1473444070 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the oil dried up? < 1473444071 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its currency < 1473444086 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: nah, just became worthless with the advent of shale < 1473444102 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still there, but uneconomical to extract < 1473444149 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man. So something is broken about rendering MathML in this browser, because the same problem (too high parenthesis) appears on multiple wobsites. < 1473444156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be a client problem. < 1473444191 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also prorogued parliament to prevent certain bills from getting passed < 1473444211 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to prevent a vote of no confidence < 1473444228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"prorogued"? what does that mean? < 1473444259 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: he didn't let parliament hold any sessions for months < 1473444272 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1473444334 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473444363 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then in 2011 there actually was avote of no confidence < 1473444401 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harper won again, but he lost the regular election this year < 1473444433 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, last year < 1473444511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's no longer in politics < 1473444749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find MathML is often screwed up < 1473444767 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473444780 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion[2]! < 1473444854 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473445034 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473445347 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473445924 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473446007 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.dropbox.com/s/zb8fbs7685xpkiu/Screenshot_20160909-191854.png?dl=0 i do think i made a mistake somewhere < 1473446314 0 :[46bit!?@? NICK :_46bit < 1473446367 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473446906 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473446956 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: mistake? I see no mistake. < 1473446999 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is one dwarf on that layer (as indicated in the top right) < 1473447840 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473449226 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to an online quiz, I'm more likely to be a native swedish speaker than English < 1473449244 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gameswithwords.org/WhichEnglish/ < 1473449263 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this surprise you? < 1473449284 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, given I don't know any swedish and I've never been to sweden. < 1473449332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would do the quiz, but it requires age and gender. < 1473449335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No thanks. < 1473449349 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473449351 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ore guesses for your native language: 1: Swedish, 2: Dutch 3: English" < 1473449388 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to cheat the quiz age/gender thingy, just for the fun of it < 1473449447 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also their dialect chioces were "1: Ebonics 2: Canadian 3: General american" < 1473449577 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the cheats... so apparently they decided that normal tags weren't enough < 1473449582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they created special tags < 1473449611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are stopping me from saying that I am an immortal verminicious knid. < 1473450061 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. Use the DOM inspector to add in your preferred option, then run $("#gender").select2(); to create the new choicebox. < 1473450377 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, it guessed german for me < 1473450381 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is correct < 1473450405 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, my dialect seems to be aave < 1473450601 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a ¡ a "gnab"? < 1473450672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a qɐuƃ < 1473450752 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, apparently, I'm from New Zealand. This, of course, is completely false. < 1473450853 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :german, english, dutch are the 3 guesses for me < 1473450872 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now... "In the Country Of United Kingdom"... < 1473450900 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, they say "country" and define the United Kingdom as a country, they are asking for me to deliberately break the system now. < 1473450910 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am entering in England. < 1473450922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it in Hebrew -- I said it in Dutch -- / I said it in German and Greek. / But I wholly forgot (and it vexes me much) / That English is what you speak. < 1473450999 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473450999 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying that test now < 1473451004 0 :lorenzo64!~frait@87.18.7.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473451084 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has some tricky questions. < 1473451084 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best part is, that somehow, the console isn't indicating any server errors due to my... interesting... input. < 1473451102 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473451103 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least none that the server sent back, anyway... < 1473451387 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "Our top three guesses for your English dialect: 1. US Black Vernacular / Ebonics 2. New Zealandish 3. South African. Our top three guesses for your native (first) language: 1. English 2. Dutch 3. Swedish" < 1473451479 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473451494 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our top three guesses for your English dialect: 1. US Black Vernacular / Ebonics 2. New Zealandish 3. Singaporean" "Our top three guesses for your native (first) language: 1. Swedish 2. English 3. Dutch" < 1473451663 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the book is in my possession! not sure if I'll have time to read this weekend but will try < 1473451668 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473451671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: whoa whoa whoa < 1473451679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: After you read this book I can send you more books. < 1473451685 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1473451691 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :books rot the mind < 1473451699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1473451718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend a book to kmc that he really liked. < 1473451745 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: won't that cause a downtime between the two books when the second book is still in postage/ < 1473451752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should read that one. < 1473451764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: copumpkin deserves a break. < 1473451803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Remind me, were you an expert in Russian history? < 1473451807 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1473451810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: _The Coast of Utopia_ was so good < 1473451816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a play, not a book. < 1473451866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's irrelevant. < 1473452349 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473452537 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473452935 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you read a book, shachaf sends you two more books. < 1473452963 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1473453031 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is there a flip side? like, every time you don't read a book he's sent within reasonable time, he takes away another random one of your books? < 1473453217 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I don't subscribe to the service. < 1473453234 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that sounds reasonable. < 1473453255 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, those aren't good rules, because then you can get stuck with zero books in the queue < 1473453300 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better rule might be something like this: whenever you have two or fewer books in your read queue plus in transmit from shachaf, shachaf sends you two more books. < 1473453304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you want to subscribe? < 1473453321 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can I request particular books? < 1473453329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now that you're British do you drink a lot of tea? < 1473453366 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, yes (well, sort-of). < 1473453375 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Now that you're British"? < 1473453385 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1473453388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What sort of tea? < 1473453400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to sign up for someone's tea recommendation of the month club. < 1473453417 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I drink more tea now because the new office's MKs have this tap from which hot water comes out of, without having to pour it into a water cooker and waiting for few minutes. < 1473453434 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, I'm bad at that. I mostly just drink the sort of empty tea I call "colored water" < 1473453441 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, the "do not ever let it near a child, they are guaranteed to hurt their hands" taps < 1473453449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: TG < 1473453452 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's got a child-"proof" thing. < 1473453454 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly not British stuff that has a taste < 1473453465 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even if it's sometimes a horrible taste) < 1473453466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are there any shortened URLs containing the string "pooch"? < 1473453481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I heard there was a spot of the kerfuffle about URL shortening recently. < 1473453497 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: You get cold water at the press of a button, but for hot water you need to press a button first, and then a different button in a short interval of time. < 1473453514 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do not underestimate children. < 1473453516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No way a child would ever figure that out. < 1473453524 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473453533 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm a bit worried, because *I* could figure it out without instructions. < 1473453536 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to press buttons? surely no child would ever want to waste his time on pressing buttons to see what happens < 1473453553 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two hot-water buttons are identical, and once you've pressed one, the other blinks. < 1473453563 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1473453568 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it blinks. < 1473453573 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... It blinks. < 1473453582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they asking for scalded hands? < 1473453585 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've already talked about this today. children these days just use their touchscreen smartphones, they don't like pressing actual buttons < 1473453598 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Chicago office had a TEAbot. < 1473453628 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sort of a thing with jars of loose-leaf tea, and a tablet as the user interface. < 1473453639 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are the buttons, are they placed under the tap so you have to reach in carefully, or press it with the cup? < 1473453649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please recommend a loose-leaf tea twh < 1473453650 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.foodandwine.com/fwx/drink/teabot-tea-making-robot-tea-lovers-dreams < 1473453652 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that. < 1473453697 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not a high-fidelity tea person, I just pick from what's been supplied. < 1473453708 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a tea make considered unoriginal and bland if it's a Braintea derivative? < 1473453719 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've bought the Clipper brand things because they have nice boxes. < 1473453737 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, like these soda machines where you just have to push your cup forward under the tap to trigger a mechanical handle with the cup, but instead people try all sorts of things like pushing or pulling the handle with their hands, with or without a cup. < 1473453746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Nice boxes? That sounds good. < 1473453773 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "supplied"? like at work? < 1473453796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But all I see is bags? < 1473453812 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : wob_jonas: Put a symbol on the side of the mug, and an obviously interlocking symbol on the machine port. < 1473453815 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might work. < 1473453879 0 :lorenzo64!~frait@87.18.7.17 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473453893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Cirno Day! ⑨/⑨ < 1473453904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: dunno, good interface design is hard < 1473453910 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay Cirno Day! < 1473453912 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQq_mZc3y_s < 1473453990 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes. Preparing hot water without the handy tap is such a chore, I do all my tea at work. < 1473454021 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473454054 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you "do" your tea? That's making me imagine some sort of drug pusher handing you some Earl Gr[ea]y. < 1473454121 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473454124 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I also drink most of my tea at work, but not because of that. Both at work and at home I make tea by boiling water in a small electric kettle, pouring half a liter in a cup, and adding a teabag for coloring the water. < 1473454135 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's exactly the same procedure at home or at work. < 1473454143 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same sorts of teabags too. < 1473454155 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473454222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's weird. The grocery stores (at least in Finland) had loose-leaf Clipper brand tea. I don't know why their website is so bag-only. < 1473454305 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Has neoletters added ⸘ yet? < 1473454317 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ys < 1473454331 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the right way around too < 1473454334 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? neoletters < 1473454335 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neoletters? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473454338 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren's font < 1473454339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\oren\'s font is http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm < 1473454371 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Congratulations, BTW, my school has your site blocked < 1473454381 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "Prohibited advertisements content" < 1473454417 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps: ln -s "wisdom/oren's font" wisdom/neoletters < 1473454430 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Warning. I have no idea how HackEgo would react to this. That's what makes it so fun!) < 1473454431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My site doesn't have any ads at all... maybe that's what's prohibited < 1473454437 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Weird < 1473454440 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll submit an appeal < 1473454445 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, I understand! < 1473454449 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They want ads on the site < 1473454453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they can replace them with their own ads! < 1473454475 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn oren's font/\oren\'s font neoletters is http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm < 1473454478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «oren's font» < 1473454559 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Nope xD < 1473454572 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if there WERE ads, everyone has adblock nowadays < 1473454578 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's greppable now < 1473454754 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ærl Græy Tæ < 1473454789 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rl grA tE < 1473454826 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Real great"? < 1473454837 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subliminal messaging! < 1473454838 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1473454843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course! < 1473454847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: itym græp hth < 1473454847 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did I not see this? < 1473454881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :|G|lobally search |Ræ|gular |E|xpression and |P|rint < 1473454895 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: grapes? nah, I prefer raspberries, thanks. < 1473454906 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I prefer my raspberries in a pie, rather than raw. < 1473454909 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's just me. < 1473454933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is basic rægexes. < 1473454936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... leaving < 1473454946 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :læving? < 1473455188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473455693 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99ff:b85f:2764:1b3d JOIN :#esoteric < 1473456980 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473457004 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why koala? < 1473457022 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, koalahead < 1473457022 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: regardless of whether or not a file in big-5 encoding. how would you like < 1473457038 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1473457568 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this should be ゚interesting. < 1473457652 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a fair or a fare? < 1473457652 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: stop twisting words again. < 1473457661 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snort < 1473457669 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord? < 1473457672 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473457690 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why so many people are unaffiliated? < 1473457803 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unaffiliated with what? < 1473457840 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1473457850 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With everything, I presume. < 1473457884 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, I am legally required to be non-partisanb < 1473457894 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing they're actually aliens from another planet, in disguise as humans. Or time travellers. Or alien time travellers. They seem kind, so that's good. < 1473458137 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no way. surely time travellers would know all our history and are familiar with all the terrible consequences the Other Candidate's term as president has brought and are able to view it from a perspective unbiased by the nasty mud-slinging of this campaign, so they won't remain unaffiliated but will support My Candidate fully. < 1473458311 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473458311 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473458593 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, "short-sighted", that's what that sentence needs < 1473458641 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting that both candidates are now essentially saying the world will literally end if the other one winds < 1473458687 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well duh, people are always saying that < 1473458802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? racoon < 1473458803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :racoon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473458804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? raccoon < 1473458805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :raccoon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473458808 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoon < 1473458808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocoon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473458877 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they say that during the 2008 election? < 1473458899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remeber them saying it over and over back then < 1473459022 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99ff:b85f:2764:1b3d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473459076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473459274 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473459295 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*coon* < 1473459297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/cocoonspirator \ wisdom/coonspirator \ wisdom/racoonspirator < 1473459314 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? racoonspirator < 1473459315 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A racoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in fur < 1473459653 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473460390 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoonspirator < 1473460391 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in caterpillar silk < 1473460395 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coonspirator < 1473460396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A coonspirator is caterpillar silk wrapped in collaborators. < 1473460596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473460686 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*err* < 1473460688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*err*: No such file or directory < 1473460694 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*e* < 1473460695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/6 random numbers \ wisdom/abstract nonsense \ wisdom/adpoted \ wisdom/adventure \ wisdom/algebraic chess notation \ wisdom/algebraic number theory \ wisdom/al gore \ wisdom/alice \ wisdom/alise \ wisdom/all the tropes \ wisdom/almond bread \ wisdom/america \ wisdom/amnesium \ wisdom/amortized \ wisdom/antediluvian \ wisdom/applicative functo < 1473460714 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*dire* < 1473460715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*dire*: No such file or directory < 1473460718 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*cat* < 1473460719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/applicative functor \ wisdom/bicategory \ wisdom/cat \ wisdom/catamorphism \ wisdom/categorical product \ wisdom/category \ wisdom/category-helpdesk \ wisdom/category theory \ wisdom/cat elimination \ wisdom/cat introduction \ wisdom/implication \ wisdom/monoidal category < 1473460733 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1473460733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1473460734 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Cocoon was built by the fal'Cie, and floats above Gran Pulse. < 1473460736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cocoon': Cocoon was built by the fal'Cie, and floats above Gran Pulse. < 1473460756 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat elimination < 1473460756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat elimination is the process of replacing a one-argument `cat` command with the shell operator < < 1473460757 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7giqbv3mfhygs.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473460849 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is, "cat X | foo | bar | baz" has a much more natural ordering of things than "foo < X | bar | baz". < 1473460904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we need an optimizing shell < 1473460922 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "< X foo | bar | baz" just looks silly. < 1473460925 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though of course it's almost impossible, because the difference is observable in too many ways < 1473460957 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: of course it does. you should write it without the space after the angle bracket, like busybox < 1473461584 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the busybox shell actually run busybox commands builtin-like? < 1473461589 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1473461597 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't fork < 1473461604 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy. < 1473461631 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you kill it while it's pretending to be a gzip, you don't go back to the shell? < 1473461642 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's correct < 1473461677 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that ^C is handled specially in that case though < 1473461689 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah just regular signal handlers < 1473461700 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd need another shell to kill it with < 1473461701 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with sigkill of course there's not much you can do < 1473461712 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't seem to happen on my busybox, at least for 'sleep'. < 1473461747 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find which apps are nofork < 1473461767 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's presumably-short-running ones. < 1473461787 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would make sense, since those would save the most. < 1473461788 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473461840 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :seq false whoami echo logname sync fsync touch true truncate yes basename dirname printenv pwd cat < 1473461939 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir mkdir rm usleep < 1473462594 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you make a program that compiles shell scripts into programs that fork, dup2, and exec? < 1473462605 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's called a shell < 1473462622 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: a shell is an interpreter < 1473462624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the shell interpretive? < 1473462645 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far i know no shell that compiles stuff < 1473462673 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why is that useful? < 1473462692 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're only speeding up the interpretation part < 1473462736 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obfuscating the code at the same time < 1473462832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can build a pessimized shell though, mind you < 1473462833 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with this is that it works great with very simple shells but posix shells do a shitload of other stuff that's totally not trivial to translate < 1473462859 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like http://blog.schmorp.de/2015-06-08-emulating-linux-mips-in-perl-1.html < 1473462879 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe this shell would have options to optimize things in unexpected ways < 1473462967 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. shell variables that are treated as numbers can be stored as numbers until such time as a string operation is performed upon them < 1473462988 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksh does that < 1473462999 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it does that if you declare them as numeric variables < 1473463004 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stores them in doubles < 1473463005 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what they say about premature optimization < 1473463013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT DOUBLES! < 1473463019 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHELL NUMBERS ARE int64 < 1473463023 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read the manual < 1473463029 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1473463047 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the ones in bash are sorry < 1473463051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what they say about floating point values < 1473463055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :double, double, toil and trouble < 1473463091 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this? < 1473463101 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a song in a harry potter movie < 1473463102 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, could you lend me a newt's eye for the cocooncotion? < 1473463102 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: let's not and say we did! :-p cool. thanks.) since you bothered to type that < 1473463110 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what was it before being sang in hp? < 1473463128 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: some lame Shakespeare stuff I think < 1473463131 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a line from Macbeth < 1473463135 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1473463149 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate shakespeare < 1473463162 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bubble, bobble. < 1473463171 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzrgXFeX_o < 1473463181 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more I hate the people who don't translate shakespeare < 1473463182 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeble < 1473463192 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beeble < 1473463193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeble? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473463205 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I should have married a crueler woman." < 1473463207 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ait was in the disk 2 of the dvd < 1473463210 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/A// < 1473463237 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shakespeare is not written in modern english, therefore they should translate it into modern english before having kids read it < 1473463241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eye of newt, and toe of frog, / Wool of bat, and pooch of dog < 1473463277 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, striiiiiictly speaking, it is Modern English < 1473463290 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you are well within your rights to argue I'm completely missing the point < 1473463300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what possible sense? < 1473463319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Some people defined some words and now everyone thinks their definitions are better than yours. < 1473463322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1473463326 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many words used by shakespeare are completely unknown to modern readers < 1473463340 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or widely misunderstood < 1473463389 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally find Shakespeare relatively easy to read < 1473463413 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well duh. he's made up a lot of new words. obviously not all would catch on. he still has quite a lot of success with many of them. < 1473463413 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. troth, wherefore, fair, whence < 1473463427 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses slang that is unfamiliar, but so does a lot of stuff coming out of the US < 1473463451 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does a lot of stuff coming from 300 miles away in my home country's capital < 1473463458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whence" is a good word. < 1473463500 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wherefore dost thou sayest such, shachaf? < 1473463516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "dost thou sayest"? < 1473463538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but most modern people would understand it as meaning "when" but shakespeare meant "where" < 1473463541 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do you say", with singular you, attempting to emulate early modern english < 1473463558 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, ...people understand it as meaning when? < 1473463563 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It reads more like "does he says" to me. < 1473463565 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1473463567 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what? we know what a "fair" is. it's either a convention where they're not trying to bother with a fixed schedule of presentations in large rooms because they know the point of a convention is people going around the stands in an unscheduled manner and meeting each other, or an adjective for elves. < 1473463585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: "whence" doesn't mean "where" < 1473463590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It means "from where" < 1473463591 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well, clearly, you don't speak early modern english as well as I do < 1473463601 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I've never heard of anyone thinking it means "when" before < 1473463605 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes, and shakespeare uses fair to mean "beautiful" < 1473463609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Are you sure you're right about this? < 1473463616 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, *I* use fair to mean beautiful < 1473463625 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no hth < 1473463626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: "whence" means "from where", "hence" means "from here", "thence" means "from there" < 1473463627 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: To a modern ear, wherefore means where, and whence means when < 1473463640 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: "whither" means "to where", "hither" means "to here", "thither" means "to there" < 1473463646 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, then I do not have a modern ear < 1473463657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherefore art thou romeo = "where are you, romeo? I can't see you" < 1473463665 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wherefore being taken as where, I've heard of < 1473463670 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never whence being taken as when < 1473463674 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we know what a "whence" is too, it's the third argument of an lseek or fseek or similar function, and traditionally has the value of 0 for offset from start, 1 for offset from current position, 2 for offset from end of file, although these days some other values are possible. < 1473463686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas makes a good point. < 1473463692 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wob_jonas < 1473463693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas is b_jonas in disguise, so that he can do magic tricks. < 1473463721 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fair" as beautiful, what's the point of that? we already have "pretty" and "handsome" to mean beautiful < 1473463724 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so this is wrong? "from whence you came you shall remain" < 1473463727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "From whence he came" = "he's a time traveller returning to his home time period" < 1473463735 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, fair is a different kind of beautiful < 1473463750 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I've heard "from whence". I'm not sure whether it's "wrong", it might just be redundant or something? < 1473463758 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I've seriously never heard anyone use it like that, or think it could be used like that before < 1473463795 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, Legolas and Arwen are fair but not pretty or handsome, to me < 1473463813 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :legolas aint pretty!? < 1473463822 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not! it's just partitioning the old fashioned chauvinist way: you say "beautiful" about women, "handsome" about men, "pretty" about children, and "fair" about elves, to enforce the notion that the roles of people in society should be determined by their gender and age and heritage. < 1473463831 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all mean the fucking same thing! < 1473463838 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No they don't! < 1473463848 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, you know, when "fair" means a convention < 1473463874 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do associate them with different kinds of beauty, and there are definitely beautiful men and handsome women < 1473463910 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gainsay" most people today would interpret as "say again" but shakespeare meant "contradict, deny" < 1473463935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think the Thing from Addams Family is quite handsome. < 1473463951 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, good for you < 1473463960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's that supposed to mean < 1473463969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that some kind of insult < 1473463978 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, either it's clear to me that they're the same because I haven't grown up as an English speaker and so my head isn't full about ideas about which social classes of people should be beautiful in which ways, or I just don't understand the small difference between those worse because I've not grown up as an English speaker and I'm just imagining < 1473463978 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those words the same. < 1473463986 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it means I disagree but recognize it's a valid opinion, and also I don't really care < 1473464007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really an opinion. < 1473464009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more of a pun. < 1473464023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know you could disagree with puns. < 1473464023 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! I was thinking of Cousin Itt < 1473464028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can find them disagreeable. < 1473464034 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My apologies < 1473464054 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a good pun < 1473464062 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since English has so many redundant synonyms, I'm always guessing the former by default. < 1473464096 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, a lot of English synonyms have different connotations. < 1473464112 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocoonnotations? < 1473464114 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are very few "true synonyms" < 1473464116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to this book, beautiful men are rare: http://www.rulit.me/books/the-gone-away-world-read-423517-65.html < 1473464129 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'd say Chris Hemsworth is one < 1473464141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ben was the rarest of things, a genuinely beautiful man. Good-looking men are commonplace, and beautiful woman are not rare. Male beauty, capable of overcoming the stigma attached to it and undeniable, is one in many hundreds of thousands." < 1473464145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that true? < 1473464147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1473464170 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once saw a really beautiful man at university but I think he graduated before I got the chance to tell him so < 1473464183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you tell someone so? < 1473464210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cousin Itt and the Thing are really quite distinct. < 1473464216 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dateless" most people would think meant "unable to go to prom" but actually means "eternal" < 1473464216 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's p. true: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=beautiful+man%2Cbeautiful+woman < 1473464219 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it is more likely to make him happy than to make him sad < 1473464243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you tell someone they're beautiful, it might make them happier. < 1473464251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is it at the cost of making all people who aren't beautiful sadder? < 1473464256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473464266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By attaching too much value to beauty of people? < 1473464269 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people who aren't beautiful wouldn't have heard me say he's beautiful < 1473464298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonetheless. < 1473464328 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"diaper" meant "towel" to shakespeare < 1473464329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is going to read a story this weekend -- I believe it's the very last one in the book -- which is about lookism. < 1473464361 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vampire < 1473464362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vampires are a wizarding myth Professor Lupin invented to make students hate Professor Snape even more, after Professor Snape almost made the students realize he's a werewolf. < 1473464363 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imperious" meant "majestic" to shakespeare < 1473464375 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...imperious does mean majestic, doesn't it < 1473464382 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like an emperor < 1473464388 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else does it mean? < 1473464389 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: "fantastic" meant "unrealistic" rather than "excellent" to Heinlein. < 1473464395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: And that was in the 1950s or something. < 1473464417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what < 1473464430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so new editions should translate the words < 1473464446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But good translations are hard. < 1473464450 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, it's just a different dialect, should American books be translated in British publication? < 1473464453 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not leave them the same and append ever increasing numbers of footnotes < 1473464454 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473464458 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well duh, disposable diapers didn't exist back then. They were a rarity (in Eastern Europe) even when I was a baby, so I grown up with textile diapers on my ass and my parents had to wash them. How could Shakespeare had known? < 1473464465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: British books are translated in American publications, aren't they? < 1473464476 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't know, I've never bought a book in the US < 1473464482 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imperious" => is that even a word? < 1473464499 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first book of harry potter was "the sorceror's stone" in the USA < 1473464523 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes and it means something like "overbearing" to a modern person < 1473464546 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to bed now < 1473464549 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1473464564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: what do you think of calliagnosia twh < 1473464572 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's a misspelling of impervious hth < 1473464593 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see. I mean, there's an M:tG card with "Imperious" in its name, but there are M:tG cards with all sorts of crazy rare English words, so that doesn't mean much < 1473464729 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Apparently BigQuery doesn't support proto data? #scow < 1473464823 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473465009 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jaded" meant "contemptible" to Shakespeare < 1473465029 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"contemptible" isn't even a word, is it? < 1473465042 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How can that even be a thing. < 1473465088 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm sure it'll all turn into protos somewhere deep in the machine. < 1473465093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm sure. < 1473465108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably even somewhere shallow in the machine. < 1473465116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything turns into protos. < 1473465130 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Have you seen that "two kinds of jobs" meme-image? < 1473465132 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doesn't help you if all you can upload is CSV data. < 1473465143 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it is. it means "worthy of being hated" < 1473465147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not sure... < 1473465194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473465205 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'd share it but I'm sure it's company confidential. < 1473465237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh thank god < 1473465241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found my missing cat < 1473465266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All images generated by the meme-image-generator-machine are confidential. < 1473465274 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vulgar" meant "of the people" in Shakespeare's time < 1473465293 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. This one's from 2012, so I presume you might have seen it, though I doubt it's super-popular. < 1473465344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've probably seen it. < 1473465350 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds vaguely familiar. < 1473465388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What format would you use to store a log file containing protos? < 1473465460 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting back to BigQuery, there seems to be something called Avro import (Apache thing with JSON-based schemas and proto-like binary wire format), and also something something Cloud Datastore. Though you're right -- no protos. < 1473465500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The point of this would be queries on nested/heterogeneous data. < 1473465565 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what's good for that, if anything. < 1473465583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than Dremel? < 1473465617 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473465710 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outside of Dremel, I think it's all just JSON all the way down. < 1473465782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON is scow. < 1473465860 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON with one line per object, and then you just parse it over and over and over again when looking for something. < 1473465871 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What if you semi-index it? < 1473465879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see that paper? < 1473465892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.di.unipi.it/~ottavian/files/semi_index_cikm.pdf < 1473465895 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1473465939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the point is that I want more structure than JSON has. < 1473465969 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: talk to zzo38 about that then < 1473465999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1473466016 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One kind of thing with more structure is to use RDF. < 1473466023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ is upper-case | in IRC. <-- if those old charsets had stayed on, i might have been \rjan < 1473466024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing is protobuf. < 1473466034 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarding the paper, sounds clever but why wouldn't you just ColumnIO(/Capacitor). < 1473466034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's not too late hth < 1473466036 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are doing text markup though, then XML might work. < 1473466070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1473466071 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 14h 28m 20s ago: I didn't realize filter 9 effectively disables anonymous editing; turning it off "properly" SGTM. < 1473466079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If you can pre-parse things and put them in your own format, of course something human-readable like JSON isn't going to be as good. < 1473466092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ARGH < 1473466106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What? < 1473466110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf for making a fake @ask -----###
< 1473466113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't want to spam the channel. < 1473466152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i use to count the number of lambdabot messages compared to what's in the log to see if it's safe to use @-loud hth < 1473466164 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF is a easily readable/writable format too. Let's see what you need to make? In some cases, a binary format will work better < 1473466165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I see. < 1473466172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't realize that. v. clever < 1473466174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, what programming language you are using. < 1473466183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I like proto. < 1473466190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What do you think of Cap'n Proto? < 1473466199 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is RDF a easily readable/writable format too? Let's see what you need to make? In some cases, a binary format will work better < 1473466208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately fizzie's message doesn't look overly confidential :) < 1473466218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1473466224 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, JavaScript will have JSON built-in and I wrote a library to read/write RDF too. < 1473466226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out if there's a gambit for something I'm looking for < 1473466253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of our cats escaped sometime yesterday, and today after coming home from school I decided to look around and found him in one of the neighbor's yards < 1473466287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fizzie's message was in the channel too. < 1473466298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He couldn't have gotten in over the fence (he's old, a bit fat, and was declawed by the previous owners; he would have a hard time climbing the fence) < 1473466315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now I see what happened. You missed fizzie's message in the log, so the 1 lambdabot reported matched the 1 you saw. < 1473466324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And therefore it tricked you into revealing a message you thought was secret. < 1473466326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He couldn't have jumped it either, because I don't think I've ever seen him jump nearly high enough (and even if he could, he'd be way too scared) < 1473466333 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: went through a hole through the fence? isn't that what cats normally do? < 1473466334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were just confused by 1<2 < 1473466337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @ask oerjan was that pun truly an accident? twh <-- which pun twh < 1473466342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That was my next possibility < 1473466356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He could've climbed in other, but I'm pretty sure he was stuck in their yard < 1473466364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "insidious" hth < 1473466369 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think when I was reading about it, all the arguments made sense, more or less, but something in the style of the writing made me feel bad on behalf of protobufs. I mean the format itself. < 1473466373 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats can climb through holes you'd think are impossible to climb through. they have like epic skills. < 1473466388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, the author of capnproto is the author of proto2. < 1473466392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah, but this looked thin even for a cat < 1473466437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, usually I'd just think he HAD managed to squeeze in and just couldn't get out for some reason (which seems unlikely) < 1473466450 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: another hole you didn't notice then? < 1473466468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I could look for another hole, but for now let's assume this is the only hole < 1473466483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, their fence has only two sides, as this is a neighborhood of duplexes) < 1473466491 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know, that's why I didn't feel bad for the author, just poor old proto2 itself. It's pretty irrational, but that's what soured me on the whole thing. Well, that and the name. < 1473466492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: itym "fiendish" < 1473466499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the yards are only about 5 metres on edge) < 1473466500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1473466512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, "insidious" was really an accident. < 1473466516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: But the reason I'm suspicious is that we've had trouble with these particular neighbors before < 1473466523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afa my conscious mind is concerned, anyway. < 1473466532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fiendish < 1473466564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day last year when one of our other cats (much younger, much more cat-like) got out, they came over to complain about it < 1473466572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: could someone have opened the gate of your yard? < 1473466582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: No, we think we know how he got out < 1473466596 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: quick question: why is there no node.js & npm on hackego? :P < 1473466596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I'm wondering about why he was there < 1473466611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because apparently she was showing up in their yard and they were annoyed because they were trying to attract birds < 1473466619 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats go where they please < 1473466636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't think he wanted to be there, because he was starving when I found him < 1473466659 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moonythedwarf: That's a Gregor question, really. < 1473466662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1473466667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you should be happy. one of my mom's friends' cat sneaked into a cellar room somewhere and they didn't find it until it had starved to death hth < 1473466669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So one of them (a woman) came over to complain about it (she apparently did not understand that pumpkin would not stay inside) < 1473466677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now I'm sad < 1473466691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And she pretty much walked directly into out house < 1473466701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, we answered the door and she just stepped inside to start complaining < 1473466769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note for foreigners who may or may not have the same customs (I don't know if this varies): In the US, someone answering the door is not an invitation to enter. It's EXTREMELY rude, and a little bit aggressive, to walk in without an explicit invitation) < 1473466788 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1473466799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I found him in their yard today, seemingly trapped < 1473466850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of our neighbors (probably the same one) brought the youngcat (Pumpkin) to the pound today < 1473466873 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: my brother otld me stories about their cat and the evil neighbor, but not quite the same story. < 1473466892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh. i didn't really "miss" the message, but since i'd already reached the count i didn't keep searching for more. < 1473466894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my best guess is that Pete went to their house when he realized he was ready to come home thinking it was ours (they're 2 doors down, so the same side of the duplex) and started complaining < 1473466896 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil neighbors hating your cat must be a trope or something < 1473466905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's a thing, definitely < 1473466931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they had already dealt with a cat today, so they just grabbed him and put him in their back yard until they could take him to the pound too < 1473467083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe when I first saw him, he was in front of their back door wanting to get in- their back door is different from ours, so he probably didn't think it was us, and he would've just left if he could- but he was complaining to try to get inside, as if he'd already been in there) < 1473467125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knocked on their door to ask if I could enter their back yard, but no one seemed to be home, so I eventually just opened their gate on my own, got him out as quickly as possible (it took longer than expected because he went and hid so I had to get food), and left < 1473467160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if they did trap him, they don't know that I showed up and retrieved him, and they may not know he's gone < 1473467190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he was just there and they had nothing to do with it, they won't know he was there at all (or they'd have just shooed him away) < 1473467211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm wondering if there's some sort of gambit (like a Batman Gambit or a Xanatos Gambit) that we could use to see which it is based on what knowledge they have < 1473467264 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1473467273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Moonythedwarf: That's a Gregor question, really. <-- i thought there _was_ node.js somewhere and a program that used it. although perhaps not in the usual path. of course npm won't work assuming that needs network. < 1473467287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Any ideas? < 1473467291 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmaybe. < 1473467322 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a js interpreter at least, I think. < 1473467355 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly npm won't work but I think probably Node.js should be added on HackEgo < 1473467369 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My best idea is to pretend we haven't found him yet and ask if we can check their yard < 1473467372 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, omit npm) < 1473467373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: btw in norway most cats roam freely, so someone like your neighbor would probably be laughed at. < 1473467382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah < 1473467393 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should add version 5 or 6 < 1473467417 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rhino < 1473467468 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRogram i have (clone of mr polybot's calculator for starts) _requires_ node to run < 1473467484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if they say no, the most likely case is they think he's there and they don't want us to know we trapped him < 1473467510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if they know he's gone, they have nothing to lose < 1473467555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, we could say we just saw him back there, but then they might say yes even if they DO know he's there so that we don't think they're suspicious < 1473467562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you know of any sort of gambit that'd work here? < 1473467581 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: sorry, I'm very bad at social engineering, so I'm definitely the wrong person to ask about this. maybe try one of the other nerds here. < 1473467588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1473467721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who here was the expert on differential forms? < 1473467723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan? < 1473467791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]> (Note for foreigners who may or may not have the same customs (I don't know if this varies): <-- certainly rude in norway unless you know someone very well < 1473467794 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can install the other requirements (packages) via the power of < 1473467814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Figured, seems like one of the more universal customs < 1473467990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, who here CAN do some social engineering? < 1473468009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moonythedwarf: what? < 1473468136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : And I'm wondering if there's some sort of gambit (like a Batman Gambit or a Xanatos Gambit) that we could use to see which it is based on what knowledge they have <-- hah, i was tempted to try that the other day in this channel. but i decided to let it go. you know who you are, unless it was the other one hth < 1473468187 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: although I was quite proud today of a completely accidental piece of social engineering I've done that might or might not have even worked < 1473468194 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really engineering either < 1473468199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wookipedia has...http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Color < 1473468255 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I commented on the blog of one geek person to point at the blog of another geek person with very similar interests, and now the first one seems to read the second one's blog, and backwards, which is a good thing, right? < 1473468315 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very good thing < 1473468318 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a matchmaker < 1473468349 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPa0TiCuvR4 < 1473468366 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: seems reasonable to me < 1473468536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan? <-- certainly not. i might be able to remember the basics if i try hard, which i don't feel like. < 1473468778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you do that product of formal variables divided out by antisymmetry thing < 1473468796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so x ^ x = 0 and x ^ y = - (y ^ x) < 1473468812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you'd usually put dx or dy < 1473468826 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these can be general vector space elements < 1473468836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? differential forms < 1473468837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :differential forms? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473468843 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473468850 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1473468851 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1473468861 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb didn't invent differential forms? < 1473468892 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?differential forms < 1473468892 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?differential: not found < 1473468897 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? differential forms < 1473468898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :differential forms? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473468902 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1473468905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He invented D-modules. < 1473468911 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1473468926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a basis { e_i } for a vector space, then the corresponding n-forms have basis elements like e_i_1 ^ e_i_2 ^ ... ^ e_i_n where i is increasing < 1473468953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strictly increasing < 1473468956 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you do antisymmetric tensor products < 1473468965 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, that's what you mean by the ^ < 1473468968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So unordered sets of basis elements? < 1473468969 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should be spelled /\ though < 1473468990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ok, i'm going by vague memory here < 1473469003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're doing a good job for not feeling like remembering the basics tdh < 1473469010 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, not just unordered sets. antisymmetric tensor products < 1473469021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, they're ordered, but you only do the increasing ones because the others are equivalent to the increasing ones times a sign by antisymmetry < 1473469038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could do only decreasing, i guess. < 1473469055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that not equivalent? < 1473469094 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473469128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well i guess. you're supposed to extend ^ to arbitrary vectors though < 1473469151 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that those are the basis elements, which you can then define ^ in terms of. < 1473469152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which requires keeping track of sign of the permutations < 1473469155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that doesn't simplify anything. < 1473469190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well i guess it might. < 1473469240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I thought dx was usually vector in the cotangent space or something like that? < 1473469243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you would define e_i_1 ^ e_i_2 ^ e_i_3 ... more generally as {i_1, ..., i_n} times the sign of the permutation < 1473469275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well sure, after you've defined this, you apply it to cotangent bundles or what it was < 1473469295 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, of which the e are a basis of < 1473469363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you don't have to go via basis, but can just do it abstractly as a quotient, but the basis helps with calculations? < 1473469425 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the basis gives the definition, but then of course you have to prove this stuff is consistent as in if you change the basis you can extend the change of basis to the antisymmetric tensor product space such that it keeps the antisymmetric tensor product operation. < 1473469464 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is important, because you need change of basis if you can't give a single basis everywhere on the manifold < 1473469509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: you're doing a good job for not feeling like remembering the basics tdh <-- i started feeling a little better hth < 1473469540 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you need to define the antisymmetric differential operator (denoted by a mirrored six) which takes (a suitably smooth functions from the manifold to one of these spaces) to (a suitably smooth function from the manifold to the next one of these spaces), < 1473469556 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the big surprise is that mirrored six composited to mirrored six turns out to be zero! < 1473469561 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's some stuff with duals. < 1473469567 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what I'm talking about either. < 1473469575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Mirrored six? Isn't this one usually just written as d? < 1473469578 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think there are nerds on the internet who do this. < 1473469585 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, it's a d, I'm just stupid < 1473469616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i suppose the antisymmetric tensor product is the universal object through which you can factor antisymmetric linear functions. which might be more to shachaf's liking. < 1473469641 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uh, that sounds nice, I've no idea what it means < 1473469653 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1473469663 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, dunno < 1473469753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means that if you have U and V, then U /\ V is a vector space such that for any W, and any antisymmetric bilinear function f : (U, V) -> W, there is a unique g : U /\ V -> W such that f = g o (/\) < 1473469763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something very close to that. < 1473469784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you dropped the antisymmetric, you'd get the usual tensor product this way) < 1473469859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, the next step is to note that the basis definition fulfils this, after which you can essentially throw it away and use the universal property from there on. < 1473469874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1473469885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot use different U and V there < 1473469907 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1473469909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means, i guess, you need to consider all U /\ U /\ ... /\ U simultaneously < 1473469933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: antisymmetry makes no sense if you're not starting with identical vector spaces < 1473469941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized that < 1473469943 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds true but I don't really understand what the point of that is. that doesn't sound like factoring, it just sounds like extending, < 1473469961 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you define the function g such that f gives its value on the basis elements of the tensor-product space < 1473469970 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well it's a category theoretical universal property, they all look like that. < 1473469981 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1473469995 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but how does the antisymmetric derivative and the duality come into all this? < 1473470011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the thing is, once you have done this, the fact that it's all invariant under basis changes becomes completely trivial < 1473470032 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? why? < 1473470066 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the part where what becomes invariant? < 1473470075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because universal objects defined by the same universal property are automatically isomorphic. < 1473470122 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1473470123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well the universal property gives you a definition of /\ which does not speak about the basis of the original spaces < 1473470136 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1473470201 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true that it doesn't speak about the basis of U^n, but does it completely determine the U/\.../\U space? < 1473470356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, up to isomorphism. < 1473470376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider if you had two objects fulfilling this. < 1473470410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :T1 and T2, with corresponding embeddings /\_1 and /\_2 < 1473470424 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm looking what crazy category theory argument you're going to pull on me < 1473470451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :universal properties are tg < 1473470489 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.63.207.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473470527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then note that f (v1, ..., vn) = v1 /\_2 v2 /\_ ... /\_ vn is an antisymmetric multilinear function, so by the universal property of T1, you have g : T1 -> T2 such that f = g o (... /\_1 ... /\_1 ...) (i hope you can guess what the notation means) < 1473470549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er missed some 2's up there < 1473470581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course the property should also say that g is linear < 1473470600 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, you need linearity everywhere < 1473470614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other way you get g' : T2 -> T1, and it's easy to show g and g' are inverses. < 1473470626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus T1 and T2 are isomorphic. < 1473470659 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, something like that probably works < 1473470663 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical category theory stuff < 1473470665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just about how these arguments always go. < 1473470674 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473470716 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't take this in a bad way, I also do such abstract arguments sometimes, I just also like the humor in how we do them instead of the more easy to understand concrete stuff it translates to < 1473470744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's maybe only hard to understand because you made him spell it out. < 1473470753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you can just say that it's a universal property. < 1473470762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that it's initial in some category or something. < 1473470774 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just makes it worse! < 1473470792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble is describing the category that you care about, but you need to do that anyway, except you normally do it implicitly. < 1473470832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: of course half the point is that once you have seen one case of this, you don't really have to relearn it completely for the next case < 1473470847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure! < 1473470858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a one time cost, after which you can use universal properties everywhere < 1473470874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :universal properties are the best < 1473470912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're p. good < 1473470916 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how all this abstract maths stuff works. you prove some crazy general theorem and then hope you can use it more than once < 1473470927 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, they have to be the best < 1473470931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what universality is hth < 1473470932 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pgraph minors theorem is stupid < 1473470936 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*graph < 1473470943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch graph < 1473470944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well in theory they could also be the worst < 1473470953 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473470956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym cobest hth < 1473470962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :COKAY < 1473470974 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473471292 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, so was there something more specific about differential forms you wanted to know? I presume you didn't just want to find out why the wedge tensor product is well-defined. < 1473471307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was pretty good. < 1473471321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a book about smooth manifolds so I think maybe I'll read that. < 1473471330 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I still don't know what's up with the d operator and the duals < 1473471399 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I know once you do the d o d = 0 theorem generally, you'll get about five of those basic integral theorems on R**2 and R**3 that have fancy individual names, like the Green's theorem and stuff. < 1473471416 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still. < 1473471428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Stokes' theorem is obviously the best one. < 1473471474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :green's theorem is like warm-up. < 1473471486 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think one of the goals for working with differentiable functions on manifolds is to be able to define invariants of manifolds, as in topological invariants or differentiable invariants, < 1473471504 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you can use that two manifolds are not isomorphic in some way, < 1473471513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Stokes' theorem an adjunction? < 1473471529 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eventually prove rigorously that a donut isn't a sphere. < 1473471595 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even up to homotopically equivalence. < 1473471606 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is kind of nice to know, and pretty hard to prove otherwise I think. < 1473471619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: that's not too hard since they have different fundamental groups. < 1473471694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how much differentiable stuff helps with proving topological invariants, i didn't learn it that way. < 1473471779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: now, proving that R^m is not R^n for m/=n is a bit harder. < 1473471883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you distinguish wisdom entries by their fundamental grep? < 1473471909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth < 1473472018 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@184.63.207.209 PART #esoteric :"Bye" < 1473472021 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I think physicists use this differentiable forms on manifolds stuff too, for some physical reasons. Maybe they want basis-invariant physical laws because they find them nicer or something. < 1473472296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Malbranche14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49700 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+158) 10Thanks! < 1473472373 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Malbranche14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49701&oldid=49700 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+23) 10Um there was more < 1473472461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: general relativity has coordinate-invariance as one of its fundamental principles. < 1473472548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iirc, in other cases, it helps determining which properties of your physical system are really fundamental rather than just an accident of description. < 1473472642 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1473472664 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what I don't get is, why is the d operator actually important? Does it have some sort of universal property? < 1473472669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i recall reading terry tao used differential geometry when investigating variants of fluid dynamics recently. < 1473472672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1473472754 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it that singles out the d operator (up to constant factor) from the other ((M->U^/\n)->(M->U^/\(n+1))) operators? < 1473472809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well general relativity doesn't use that d iirc, unless there's a reformulation which does < 1473472826 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it wasn't based on antisymmetry) < 1473472829 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473472881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it might be that dd = 0 determines it up to equivalence, or something... < 1473472900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, dd= 0 is the property you want for things that define homologies. < 1473472923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka i don't really know the answer) < 1473472943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait hm < 1473473290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I thought so, but then someone in another channel said it was a Google thing. <-- sounds google to me < 1473473599 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dd = 0 can't determine it alone, you need some other property too < 1473473690 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473473692 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if dd=0 is the only thing you want, then why couldn't you just move U^/\n in place with some non-singular linear transform to itself but leave the U^/\k for all k!=n alone? < 1473473699 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would change d. < 1473473743 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There has to be something that treats U^/\n as more than just a vector space. < 1473473747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably stokes' theorem is what makes it important. < 1473473836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't explain anything. < 1473473841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, de Rham's theorem is what i was looking for. < 1473473850 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is stokes theorem important, as in, why do you want a theorem about that particular differential form? < 1473473922 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :De Rham's theorem? Dunno, I feel there has to be some lower level explanation than that. < 1473473946 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to involve /\ somewhere. < 1473473975 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in /\ on the vectors, not /\ on the vector spaces. < 1473473982 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, I dunno, good night. < 1473473985 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473474050 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473474199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas i mean that stokes' theorem tells you how to get d from integration, essentially. < 1473474199 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473474271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas oh, and of course i mean the _generalized_ stokes' theorem, that includes all the special cases like green's theorem. < 1473474271 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473474332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473474855 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fraction of all english words would you guess are ALL CAPS < 1473475033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> If he wins, the cold war is over, with victory to Russia <-- you make it sound like a good thing < 1473475308 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1473475343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitopia < 1473475345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1473475652 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473475702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473475951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os < 1473475951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Os is the accusative plural of us. Also a municipality in Norway. < 1473476820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, Apache Drill might be able to do it. < 1473476848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473476857 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :drill drill baby < 1473476887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops permute that < 1473477112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473477399 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was testing things < 1473477411 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i made a http request to icanhazip.com with netcat < 1473477421 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it ^ < 1473477483 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is so cool, i'll write them < 1473477551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Also I can convert to JSON and then query for many use cases. < 1473477556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You recommend jq for that? < 1473478604 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Quit: bibibi < 1473478637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj I wonder why so many people are unaffiliated? <-- it's the only cloak you can get if you're not part of a group that's officially on freenode, me thinks < 1473478637 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473478694 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you might prefer to get it even if you are affiliated. < 1473478721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i rephrased myself in the middle of writing that because of that < 1473478918 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That work good. < 1473479022 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473479028 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It supports headerless HTTP even; that is very good. < 1473479104 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can more easily check what is my global IP address, because I made a shell script of it. < 1473479123 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a router, so the computer's own IP address is not the same as the address accessible by internet.) < 1473479509 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are using other format and then convert to JSON and then query for many use cases, is there a JavaScript module to do that with? If there is no such things on npm then I or you could add those program on < 1473479607 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And Chrome just deprecated HTTP/0.9, too... :) < 1473479669 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too soon < 1473479720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473479758 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That shouldn't matter much since it is the client rather than the server. < 1473479801 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, it only really prevents Chrome from working with HTTP/0.9-only servers, while servers are still perfectly free to still support HTTP/0.9-only clients. < 1473479825 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably nearly zero HTTP/0.9-only servers. Or clients for that matter, but it's also lower impact to support for servers. < 1473479864 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is useful for the server to support it for use with clients that are not HTTP clients, mainly. < 1473479876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm often an HTTP/0.9 client. < 1473479943 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's trivial to tell if a request is an HTTP/0.9 request, unlike for responses. < 1473479971 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :With responses, you start getting not-headers and it *might* be an HTTP/0.9 response, or it might be some server being busted. < 1473479983 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :With requests, you see the "GET" line doesn't have a verrsion number. < 1473480061 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Making a HTTP client working with HTTP/0.9-only servers is probably a bit messy anyways, so a client should not need this functionality. It is a very useful functionality for servers to have though. (If a HTTP client does want to support HTTP/0.9-only servers too, it should probably be a user option.) < 1473480281 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you don't need support for HTTP headers and stuff in your server, don't make a HTTP/0.9-only server; make a gopher server instead.) < 1473480304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no one uses Gopher. < 1473480321 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it a http 1.0 server maybe? < 1473480334 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that http 1.0 supports http 1.0 headers < 1473480634 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can support HTTP/0.9 and HTTP/1.0 in one server; implement both. You don't need a HTTP/0.9-only server though. < 1473480692 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simple HTTP/1.0 client isn't too bad either, for that matter. < 1473480709 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-119-76-122-163.revip17.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473480765 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and it is a good idea for any HTTP client to support that. However, the server probably ought to support HTTP/0.9 too. < 1473480788 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering HTTP/1.0 requires it from servers, I agree. :) < 1473480831 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq | A simple HTTP/1.0 client isn't too bad either, for that matter. <- then why are they taking so long to develop chrome and firefox?!? < 1473480896 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because those do a *lot* more than HTTP/1.0. < 1473480911 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1473481040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FuckbeEs14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49702 5* 0312Me21 5* (+1928) 10created the page lol XD < 1473481087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FuckbeEs14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49703&oldid=49702 5* 0312Me21 5* (+10) 10added proper file extension < 1473481145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FuckbeEs14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49704&oldid=49703 5* 0312Me21 5* (-143) 10removed influenced because LIES < 1473481217 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(written in BASIC) < 1473481234 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trololo < 1473481251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FuckbeEs14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49705&oldid=49704 5* 0312Me21 5* (+0) 10replaced [] with the correct symbols < 1473481323 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, I once again have an Internet-connected DOS VM. < 1473481329 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I had *any* use for such a machine. < 1473481378 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you in Colorado? < 1473481418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if e tries to edit the Main Page too, e gets a block. < 1473481564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly featuring it _might_ have some positive effects, in theory. < 1473481817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM < 1473481848 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once again I have been wtching this over and over for half an hour < 1473481932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473482050 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1473482212 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not quite yet. < 1473482378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473482387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=astISOttCQ0 < 1473482823 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3owVbVZNKs < 1473482826 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb Never whence being taken as when <-- what about twice? < 1473482826 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473482843 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now I'm just linking crazy memes of the earyl 2000's < 1473483065 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6CDFn2i3I < 1473483154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make up a esoteric programming language called "Main Page", then what are you going to do about it? < 1473483181 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or even, a book or movie or anything called "Main Page", and if a Wikipedia article should be needed.) < 1473483466 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17FEtaiWdVg < 1473483817 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1473484074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Cousin Itt and the Thing are really quite distinct. <-- one is handsome, the other is hair < 1473484320 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473484582 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1473486931 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473487651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lignxibetvgbrotb QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487651 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487652 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487653 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473487749 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488589 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488704 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488704 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488704 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lignxibetvgbrotb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488704 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488704 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473488704 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473489824 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473490719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one were to write the time as 24:10, would Europe scorn one? < 1473490738 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would < 1473490743 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about eu < 1473490897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base prime: Given the standard functions along with the additional pmor(x) and ples(x), which return the smallest prime number greater than x and the greatest prime number less than x (fallback on 0) respectively < 1473490951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bprime(n) := ples(n)+(n-ples(n))/(pmor(n)-ples(n)) < 1473490962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1473491032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bprime(n) := primenum(ples(n))+(n-ples(n))/(pmor(n)-ples(n)), where primenum(p) takes a prime p and returns its index (primenum(2) = 1, primenum(3) = 2, primenum(5) = 3, 7 -> 4, 11 -> 5, 13 -> 6, etc.) < 1473491039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that looks right < 1473491054 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now it's 26:04 < 1473491075 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, according to my computer < 1473491132 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi is displaying 06:18, I have no idea why < 1473491220 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does a could server end up with such a time offset < 1473491228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/could/cloud/ < 1473491590 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ISO 8601, 24:00:00 is accepted for the instant at the end of a day, equivalent to 00:00:00 of the next day; but otherwise the hour can't be above 23 < 1473491622 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard though that tv schedulers use 06 to 30 or so < 1473492508 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473492823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltab: Why? < 1473492875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltab: I reformed the calendar. To distinguish dates, they are prefixed with "NRC" and the separator is "~" < 1473493799 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reformed the year numbering. Year 0 is 1970. this year is 46 < 1473494049 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I recommend jq for the sort of processing I normally do with ... | sed | awk | sed | grep | perl | ... sort of overly complicated shell "oneliners", if you do have JSON data. < 1473494150 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell pikhq There was at least one router with a HTTP/0.9-only admin interface, it made them pause a little. Anyway, ISTR in the end they only deprecated HTTP/0.9 for nonstandard ports for now, since that's what the security concern was (mostly) about. < 1473494189 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@mesages-loud < 1473494207 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :net split? < 1473494228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no, whar iz lamdabot? < 1473494251 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A long one. < 1473494346 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, rather, my client says 28 people left due to a split, one came back, and then there's a dribble of some other people rejoining, but some are still gone. < 1473494350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: At least you're still here. < 1473494351 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i didnt build it; its a package from ubuntu and php homes of irc-ignorant fnord worldwide. but i think i know where quack is located...... < 1473494378 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know a duck's quack doesn't echo? (That's not actually true.) < 1473494513 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3CKZqEiALE < 1473494570 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since oerjan was complaining I decided to listen to a wider variety of music < 1473494762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm now I want to play HOI4 < 1473495133 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473495626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes this song in \oren\'s link that has "Stalin" in nearly every line
< 1473495939 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that was a bit much
< 1473495989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to listen to) < 1473496327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473496422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473496569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Shouldn't the taxonomic group above Kingdom be Empire? )
< 1473496626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :taxonomic groups are so pre-cladistic, anyway < 1473496667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah? < 1473496692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What about horizontal gene transfer? < 1473496755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't those cross groups, anyway < 1473496760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah < 1473496772 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what looks better https://arin.ga/JGh7kM/raw vs https://arin.ga/rREUCG/raw < 1473496780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do think we need something above Domain that just means "the beginning"; barring panspermia, it would be so we could sort Jovian life against Earth life) < 1473496789 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 3d arrays or 1 4d array? < 1473496799 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to WordNet, domain is fine: http://sprunge.us/hcfM < 1473496838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, huh, Empire is a thing < 1473496856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prokaryotes vs Eukaryotes < 1473496869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spellcheck thinks "Prokaryotes" is a typo of "Protestants") < 1473496883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: probably written by a catholic < 1473496913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also "Legion" < 1473496918 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: In my opinion, if you already have three indices, why not go for broke and have the fourth. < 1473496926 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeah < 1473496940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think we need to resort the species into Democratic Republics instead of Kingdoms) < 1473497117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domain -> Kingdom -> Subkingdom -> Infrakingdom -> Superphylum -> Phylum -> Subphylum -> Infraphylum -> Microphylum -> Superclass -> Class -> Subclass -> Infraclass -> Parvclass -> Legion -> Cohort -> Magnorder -> Superorder -> Order -> Suborder -> Infraorder -> Parvorder -> Section [zoology only] -> Superfamily -> Family -> Subfamily -> Supertribe -> Tribe -> Subtribe -> Genus -> Subgenus (Church of the?) -> Section (botany only) -> < 1473497117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Series -> Species -> Subspecies -> Variety -> Form < 1473497190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473498268 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg64dw17dked36v.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:351f:5054:d2be:2e9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498268 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498311 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498311 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498311 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498319 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498319 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498319 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473498322 0 :augur!?@? NICK :Guest22293 < 1473498684 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473499180 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473501301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473506146 0 :Guest22293!?@? NICK :augur < 1473506176 0 :augur!?@? NICK :Guest24275 < 1473506203 0 :Guest24275!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:351f:5054:d2be:2e9 QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1473506249 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:351f:5054:d2be:2e9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473506353 0 :augur_!?@? NICK :augur < 1473507021 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473507221 0 :Janaton!2ef53aba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.245.58.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473507275 0 :Janaton!2ef53aba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.245.58.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473512896 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:351f:5054:d2be:2e9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473516173 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473516779 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473516828 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473518281 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473520509 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473520510 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473520609 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473520882 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473521047 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473523616 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473524130 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473524298 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473524305 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1473527034 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1473527969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like what? < 1473528338 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea to make new custom Magic: the Gathering card and do you have the idea too? < 1473529178 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One kind of variant game I thought of would be this: There is a new pseudotype called "main" and each player will have one "main card" which is not a card or object and does not exist in any zone of the game. As a state-based action, if a main token owned by a player does not exist, create a main token owned and controlled by that player, with the characteristics of that player's main card. < 1473529194 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473529320 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Main" is a designation that an object has (somewhat like an object can be a "commander"), and is not a characteristic. Also as a state-based action, any main token controlled by a player different from its owner ceases to exist. < 1473529342 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :These "main card" are different from existing cards < 1473529608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sorts of main tokens would there be? < 1473529756 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not quite sure; of course how well game is work depends what is available. They could be any permanent, although I thought mainly some planeswalkers designed specifically to be the main cards, that need some time before you will activate the ultimate ability, although in some cases other types of permanents might also do. < 1473530236 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't quite work so well perhaps to add the following rule: As a special action you can destroy a main token you own. To do this costs an amount of generic mana equal to the total number of times you used this special action so far including the current instance. < 1473530978 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473531025 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473531040 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473531189 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473531735 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has returned! < 1473531740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1473531740 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1473532038 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. I am battling with one of the main problems in computer programming: naming things < 1473532087 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: What do you try to name? < 1473532126 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :spefically an esoteric language that is pretty much an union of a macro system and primitive recursive functions < 1473532177 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickbooks support hotline *scnr* < 1473532223 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(definitions of macros must preceed their usage references to keep the language non turing complete) < 1473532281 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and self referencing is not allowed) < 1473532655 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473532782 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473532894 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you see my problem here < 1473533544 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irc is the only chat i can really use when i need 1 Mbit/s for a large download :/ < 1473533585 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1473533632 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats what i get for using Centurylink < 1473535340 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473535369 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473535814 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IRC is a better chat protocol than most other anyways < 1473536190 0 :irctc798!2e173212@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.23.50.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473536331 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473536385 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@v129-22-124-161.VCLIENT.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473536512 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473536611 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473536687 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473536688 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@v129-22-124-161.VCLIENT.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473536802 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your focus < 1473536806 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer jabber < 1473537271 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should just build any new chat stuff on top of IRC < 1473537315 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar to the way C++ is built on top of C < 1473537402 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hopefully without C++'s habit of adding new systems with no advantage over the old ones < 1473538243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Finnish magazine aimed for teenage girls, with a discussion forum for a somewhat wider audience; they used to also have a chat feature on the website; that was built on top of IRC. < 1473538287 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chatted briefly with the programmers, because they were curious when someone connected to the thing using an actual IRC client. < 1473538336 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if BitlBee is still buzzing along. < 1473538405 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latest release 2016-03-19, so maybe not entirely dead. < 1473538470 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impressive, they've now got a way to use Skype that doesn't involve running an actual Skype client. (Goes via web.skype.com.) < 1473538551 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used actual IRC client when I had previously found only the client included on the webpage but instead I looked at the source so that I can connect by proper IRC client instead. < 1473539230 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473539445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473540243 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473542270 0 :irctc798!2e173212@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.23.50.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473542586 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473542600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static02.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads//2011/01/xmenfamilytree-labeled.jpeg confuses me... < 1473542643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The key has 6 options (blue solid, teal dotted, red solid, gold dotted, green solid, purple dotted) < 1473542649 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at the very top is red dotted < 1473542745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I take it the star on several of Cyclops's offspring indicates some genetic thing? e.g. Phoenix Force? < 1473542760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't a "read more comics" thing, it's just a "your chart is stupid" thing < 1473543171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Science flies you to the moon; Religion flies you into buildings, and Science built the thing you were flying, as well as the building." < 1473543243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Is it possible for two people to have consanguinity >= 1? )
< 1473543275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Wait, no, I mean >0.5. Obviously =1 is clones (or identical twins), greater is impossible )
< 1473543364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone developed the field of love trigonometry? < 1473543563 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion: I guess the guys on TvTropes probably have < 1473543575 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think possibly dotted red at top is an in-law sibling (a stepbrother in this case). < 1473543584 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah < 1473543606 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1473543729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: They have http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TriangRelations, which basically just describes all possible 3-node digraphs (with no loops (but yes cycles), repeated edges, or isolated nodes) < 1473543756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's more love-graph-theory than love trigonometry < 1473543848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They did it pretty well, too, by making sure to exclude isomorphic triangles and such, as they're the same situation where each person is someone else) < 1473543885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I think of a love triangle, I generally think of triangle #2, which is also called the "Love Cycle" < 1473543915 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you know that All The Tropes is more better than the TV Tropes? < 1473543935 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? All The Tropes < 1473543941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A card game where you win if you collect *all* of the tropes. < 1473543955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: LIES < 1473543966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type #3 (a War Scenario) is the traditional kind < 1473544014 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are not lies < 1473544239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473544392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, tis-100 dataflow is a bit annoying, but I found the TIS-NET directory (oh no...) < 1473544862 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the second set of stages? < 1473544876 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1473544891 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473545000 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's the initial 5x5 segment map... and right now that looks like another of those indeed < 1473545069 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm still missing two programs for the initial map < 1473545527 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which ones? I think I'm missing one < 1473545546 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :exposure mask viewer and sequence sorter < 1473545581 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I don't think I implemented the sort < 1473545582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get that game running on my new computer. < 1473545608 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get steam working again < 1473545611 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is tedious, and the former requires juggling four values... need to try it when I'm not so tired < 1473545633 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should also add you on steam probably < 1473545719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e doesn't do adding or steam < 1473545735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so I heard. < 1473545772 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's mostly true. (I have a community-free, friendless, steam account) < 1473545813 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've been up for 17 hours, good night < 1473545824 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473545832 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night, int-e < 1473546054 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm missing 'sequence mode calculator' still, it seems. < 1473546076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything else in both things are nominal. < 1473546090 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had some pretty awful solutions for some stuff, though. < 1473546155 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exposure mask viewer was pretty simple, I think. < 1473546190 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my sequence sorter is something really crufty. < 1473546291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1473546308 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 nodes and 91 instructions; my one friend on the list has 4 and 57, respectively. < 1473546489 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473546492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My solutions are embarrassing. < 1473546500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should jam some more later. < 1473546504 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I feel about mine. < 1473546558 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473547203 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473547395 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:529:2577:22c9:ed86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473547666 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what all that means < 1473547983 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg64dw17dked36v.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473548534 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a game. < 1473548542 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zachtronics.com/tis-100/ < 1473549875 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xevsifijvsiacjjt QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473550012 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taijjlcweqkjrwmg JOIN :#esoteric < 1473550213 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473550302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473550496 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-009.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473550579 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473550669 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-009.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473550711 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1473550948 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have tried things and failed to figure out how to make a add-on for Node.js < 1473550988 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I auditioned for a web video series and got a part! < 1473551043 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is FFI, but that is slow < 1473551051 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think now I'm going to bed < 1473551113 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473551114 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473552044 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Which series? < 1473552056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or which part? < 1473552333 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473552712 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473552823 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i like zachtronics games < 1473554143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473554352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473555185 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:529:2577:22c9:ed86 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473556650 0 :Cale_!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473556652 0 :Cale_!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473556690 0 :Cale_!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473556707 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1473556715 0 :Cale_!?@? NICK :Cale < 1473556740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb was it DWFO? < 1473556740 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473556764 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dwfo < 1473556768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwfo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473556791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn DWFO is the Doctor Who Fan Orchestra. < 1473556795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'dwfo': DWFO is the Doctor Who Fan Orchestra. < 1473556832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happened to be announced today on a forum i know Taneb sometimes reads < 1473558801 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :clang -Weverything enables the weirdest warnings < 1473558808 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: variable length array used [-Wvla] < 1473558818 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: format string is not a string literal [-Wformat-nonliteral] < 1473558819 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : printf(format, val); < 1473558849 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :warnings about padding in structs < 1473558882 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i supposed to do these things? o.o < 1473559061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473559289 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then enable only the warnings you will need. < 1473559442 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it found a bug :( < 1473559480 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 real bug, 3 harmless-but-ok-lets-change-it bugs and about 180 bogus warnings < 1473559849 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then enable everything and then selectively disable the warnings that you don't want. < 1473560289 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:fd6e:3edd:771d:4306 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473560499 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make -B CC=clang 'CFLAGS=-Weverything -O1 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wno-disabled-macro-expansion -Wno-missing-prototypes -Wno-padded -Wno-reserved-id-macro -Wno-date-time -Wno-shorten-64-to-32 -Wno-format-nonliteral -Wno-sign-conversion -Wno-vla -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-cast-qual -Wno-unused-macros' < 1473560584 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make -B CC=clang 'CFLAGS=-Weverything -O1 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wno-disabled-macro-expansion -Wno-missing-prototypes -Wno-padded -Wno-reserved-id-macro -Wno-date-time -Wno-shorten-64-to-32 -Wno-format-nonliteral -Wno-sign-conversion -Wno-vla -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-cast-qual -Wno-unused-macros -pedantic -std=c11' < 1473560647 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of defeats the point of -Weverything -_- < 1473560771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i thought the point of -Weverything was to have an option that includes warnings which frequently give false positives; otherwise you use -Wall. < 1473561147 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because it also warns about stuff i didn't write < 1473561161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1473561164 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. glibc does this in stdio.h #define stderr stderr < 1473561185 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and -Wdisabled-macro-expansion warns because it's a recursive macro < 1473561561 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473561663 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473562232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473562239 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does glibc do that in stdio.h? < 1473562362 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because ISO C requires stderr to be a macro. < 1473564528 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1473564543 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473564576 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that, though? What exactly is caused by it being a macro in this way? < 1473564625 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand why it might say that it MAY be a macro, but I don't know why it should say that it MUST be a macro. < 1473564827 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.173 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473566044 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is some notable body of pre-ISO C code relied on it, and the ISO standard committee wanted to avoid breaking working code if at all possible. < 1473566070 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter isn't part of the guess, just explanation for why the former matters as rationale) < 1473566092 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you rely on that? < 1473566096 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ifdef stderr ? < 1473566139 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1473566162 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will grant it's really dumb, but that's still what I'm guessing. < 1473567039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473567489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( If we want to specifically refer to a man who is married, could we say "Missus Consort"? )
< 1473568232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473568385 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might have seen vertical interval timecode signals on an old TV set that I no longer have. I did see they were some sort of time signal, and perhaps that is what it is. < 1473568407 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I only found the description on Wikipedia today. It was a long time ago that I saw it on TV, though.) < 1473569940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1473570381 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone has told me some of my suggested optimizations for Z-code are extreme. < 1473571292 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/MpPSPQq7oas?t=3m38s < 1473571400 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can't break this plane. You can land this plane on its fuselage, jack it up, put down the landing gear and then you can take off again." < 1473573519 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this meaning code sharing is OK? http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/raw/tavernc-parser.c?name=6156d70564da7cdfced7aa6cc25350dac895ea1b < 1473573577 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Search for "share_meanings") < 1473574938 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473575022 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-012-189-009.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473575094 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-009.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473575959 0 :astslash!~atslash@217.26.5.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473576056 0 :astslash!~atslash@217.26.5.115 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473576058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473576063 0 :atslash!~atslash@217.26.5.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473576355 0 :atslash!~atslash@217.26.5.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473576414 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473577590 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473578429 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473578550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Went to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition < 1473578559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Page was about the Spanish Inquisition < 1473578563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly as expected < 1473578674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to run SETI@yourfriendshouse < 1473578743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem to have confused this IRC channel with Twitter. < 1473578751 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh I just found this ViewPattern: (urlEncode -> query) ... and I don't like it. < 1473578781 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My experience with Twitter is the only mode of interaction it has is retweets. < 1473578784 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing like IRC at all. < 1473578805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect for this variety of joke, I think. < 1473578829 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473578834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Why not? < 1473578849 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, slightly surreal: http://sprunge.us/SIPH < 1473578858 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473578892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Garfield minus Garfield. < 1473578895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@shachaf what? What's this 'IRC' you speak of? < 1473578895 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1473578914 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's elegant but a pattern match should not modify data... perhaps prepare it into something digestible... but to my mind url encoding is an important "effect" in some vague sense. < 1473578950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e appears to have me muted... < 1473578958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1473578984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What about f s | let query = urlEncode s = ...? < 1473578988 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I can see a few advantages (the non-URL-encoded thing isn't even in scope) so perhaps I'll grow to like the pattern. < 1473579006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of not even naming a thing that you would only use once anyway. < 1473580381 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I see the sentence "Every farmer who owns a donkey beats it." < 1473580387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really see the ambiguity < 1473580403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I always end up interpreting it as "Every farmer who owns a donkey masturbates" < 1473580439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e has a point. < 1473581601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_gays_should_not_be_allowed_to_edit_articles... and I think I got linked there from Uncyclopedia... but I don't actually see why it exists... < 1473581627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's meant to be humorous < 1473581628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1473581665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the title was the /argumentum ad absurdum/ of various proposals, but that the content would be serious < 1473581831 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473582671 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: if you want people to click on your links, do not add dots at the end of them < 1473582734 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you find out it's humorous? because it is obvious pr because of the banner at the top telling so? < 1473582938 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg64dw17dked36v.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473583205 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473583455 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473583852 0 :Lotus_eater!~Lotus_eat@79.142.224.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473584061 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1473584061 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 7h 35m 20s ago: was it DWFO? < 1473584097 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan It is not DWFO, it's one being organized by a couple of people in my uni called "STVN" < 1473584097 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473584129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb hi Taneb < 1473584140 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1473584141 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1473584148 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1473584152 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, how < 1473584294 0 :Lotus_eater!~Lotus_eat@79.142.224.208 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1473584358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ask oerjan hth < 1473584386 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan hth (shachaf told me to) < 1473584386 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473584605 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473584618 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473584715 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg64dw17dked36v.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473585057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur < 1473585059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473585779 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473585930 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1473585932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1473586595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473586601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good job, Jefferson * < 1473586626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your YouTube channel is "JeffersonAirplneVEVO", and the icon is just the default "J" < 1473586635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And this is a VERIFIED channel) < 1473587147 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, no fireworks on Schlockmercenary today, just a huge teaser... < 1473587353 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schlock mercenary? < 1473587358 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't read that in like ten years < 1473587384 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 4d 9h 13m 51s ago: Is there a way to implement combinators using C# delegates without getting stack overflows <-- i suspect this is when you need a trampoline. < 1473587389 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a trampoline* < 1473587794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoting people who use <-- is very confusing < 1473587803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :though this is really a flaw in the <-- convention < 1473587809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scownvention < 1473588087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why doesn't a second layer of <-- fix it? < 1473588233 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I failed to come up a with a funny way of suggesting that hth stands for heads-tails-heads, a possible outcome from flipping three coins. < 1473588285 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tht < 1473588287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tht? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473588326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately the standards for wisdom/ are very low. < 1473588359 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"World Journal of Research and Review" ... who makes up the names of all those crap pay-for-publishing journals? < 1473588622 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn THT is short for tails-heads-tails, a possible outcome of flipping three coins. It's the opposite of HTH. < 1473588625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tht': THT is short for tails-heads-tails, a possible outcome of flipping three coins. It's the opposite of HTH. < 1473588671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that puzzle about what combination of three coin flips is more likely to come up first? < 1473588754 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about HHH and TTT having a tendency to clump together < 1473588863 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'd expect to wait the longest for those two, followed by HTH and THT, followed by the other four that can't overlap with themselves. let me check the math... < 1473589371 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473589476 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473589711 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I did that correctly, the expected values are 14 for HHH and TTT, 10 for HTH and THT, and 8 for the others. < 1473589758 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473589823 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :expected number of flips before they occur? < 1473589834 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the first time, yes. < 1473589866 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a manual computation though, so feel free to verify the numbers yourself < 1473590168 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[from #haskell] " well don't you want IO to somehow capture the physical world?" ... in a cage, perhaps? < 1473590692 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473590913 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473590999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, another bad earthquake < 1473591006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like the last time I opened Google news < 1473591572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473591669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473591722 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Is clonecest (especially including gender-inverted clonecest) considered creepy? )
< 1473592972 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473594733 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should stop doing it, if it causes earthquakes. < 1473595032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473595637 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch I hope none of the punsters on here see this: http://www.mezzacotta.net/pomh/?comic=65 < 1473595777 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473596243 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473596417 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473597432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Vitsy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49706&oldid=47284 5* 03VTCAKAVSMoACE 5* (+280) 10Added infobox < 1473597775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:VTCAKAVSMoACE14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49707 5* 03VTCAKAVSMoACE 5* (+295) 10Creation < 1473598981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TRUE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49708&oldid=37355 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+27) 10 < 1473601181 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473601321 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: brb < 1473601606 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1473603465 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:fd6e:3edd:771d:4306 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473603903 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473603986 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473607572 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473608414 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473608954 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473609005 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473609139 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? abelian group < 1473609141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abelian group? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473609479 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; grep -r abelian . < 1473609486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473609494 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; grep -ri abelian . < 1473609496 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473611628 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473611725 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: :D < 1473611730 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good comic < 1473611861 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1473612329 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473612424 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473613682 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :izalove < 1473614095 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473615030 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473615409 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg64dw17dked36v.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473616284 0 :heroux_!sandroco@507081C4.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473616505 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xriyroheyybpwmtf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473616509 0 :heroux_!?@? NICK :heroux < 1473616990 0 :heroux!sandroco@507081C4.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473617319 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-fcwygmcpmveyzsdy JOIN :#esoteric < 1473617724 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-fcwygmcpmveyzsdy QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473617939 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-okqtroosrxchawxj JOIN :#esoteric < 1473622432 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473622711 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Then why do you write it on here? < 1473623032 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do it for the irony < 1473624671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1473624672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. < 1473624756 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may need help for that second part < 1473625004 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps I could claim that I succeeded billions of years ago < 1473625352 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/KSP/P_20160911_151408.jpg <- this is the shit < 1473625516 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473627004 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473627048 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473627103 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473627443 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i set the license on github so that the api knows about it? < 1473627561 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i'm stupid < 1473627567 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1473627584 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there should be a license field in the reply < 1473627587 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't see it < 1473627646 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it < 1473627672 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in https://api.github.com/repos/username/reponame/license < 1473628519 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473628746 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473629354 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e841:a1ba:9b27:2828 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473629397 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473630206 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e841:a1ba:9b27:2828 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473630391 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473631219 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1473631649 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473631695 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473632820 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg64dw17dked36v.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473632881 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473633061 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a scanned or retyped copy of the instructions on the envelope of a IBM flowcharting template? < 1473633718 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473633731 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1473633731 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1473633836 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be fun to make an IRC channel where a bot with multiple nicks performans plays. < 1473635116 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473635228 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473637013 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473637016 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473637309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473637893 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473638212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473638986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473639000 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473639003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the society in My Little Pony have some rather advanced math < 1473639085 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the second movie, they mention the Pythagorean theorem (they actually SAY the definition- "And the distance between two points is just the square root of the sum of the squares of the difference the offsets of 3-dimensional points" or somesuch) < 1473639094 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473639156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473639200 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: it's just square roots, and square roots have been mentioned already in S3 E1. that's not advanced math. even the ancients knew the pythagorean theorem. < 1473639206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They mentioned a person named "Haycartes" (in the context of "Haycartes' Method", which is probably philosophical rather than mathematical but they still have the quy) < 1473639219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah, but it's fairly impressive for ponies < 1473639232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they just mentioned pre-calculus (thus implying they have proper calculus) < 1473639239 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d7:c049:a27:d096:6385:a7a3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473639244 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, sinuses < 1473639256 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have a snout, of course they know about sinuses < 1473639309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinuses? < 1473639317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That have anything to do with sine? < 1473639341 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only the name < 1473639444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also had the equations for General Relativity on the chalkboard at one point, which implies they have that (I mean, it's probably just that the animators needed something nopony would understand so no one would get upset, but still) < 1473639986 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473640023 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473640248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473640274 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473640274 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f801:9034:6dd9:cdd1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473640438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-gold < 1473640438 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 15h 39m 1s ago: It is not DWFO, it's one being organized by a couple of people in my uni called "STVN" < 1473640438 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb asked 15h 34m 11s ago: hth (shachaf told me to) < 1473640451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1473640453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1473640458 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb it's really quite simple... < 1473640552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb oerjan says it's really quite simple hth < 1473640552 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473640611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello̼ < 1473640649 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1473640670 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, when did you buy a Lambdabot Gold account? < 1473640892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473640897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellob_jonas < 1473641060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: This Nix thing is a mess. :-( < 1473641070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it trying to install binutils and bash and all these things? < 1473641092 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to build stuff < 1473641118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't it want them before? < 1473641154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb does that mean it's star trek < 1473641154 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473641322 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate how there's always greasy cooking smell coming in the windows here. I blame the neighbour on the ground floor. < 1473641531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard hungarian cooking is very greasy < 1473641569 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, usually it is. < 1473641600 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer it less greasy than average, but that's irrelevant. Nobody likes when they get cooking smell all the time. < 1473641667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure if anyone tried that in this building they'd set off the fire alarm < 1473641767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(greasy cooking without proper ventilation, that is) < 1473641819 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's got proper ventillation, he's ventillating all the smell outside the building. I bet his apartment is all nice and non-smelly. It's coming in through the window in here. < 1473641821 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473641826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473641877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1473641971 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d7:c049:a27:d096:6385:a7a3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473642083 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473642092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473642299 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d7:c049:311e:5fde:cde2:c4d9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473642495 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473642699 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d7:c049:311e:5fde:cde2:c4d9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473642801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Slereah what is a trampoline* <-- it is a way to emulate deep recursive calls without a stack, by having each step return directly to a loop at the top, which calls the next step hth < 1473642801 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473642890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Slereah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trampoline_(computing)#High-level_programming < 1473642890 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473642948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : quoting people who use <-- is very confusing <-- i don't see why hth < 1473643394 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473643572 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like stacking left-arrows for stacked replies < 1473643582 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes for a decent one-message quote tower on IRC < 1473643593 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually use double right arrows instead, like this => => < 1473643645 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually use "←" < 1473643920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473644250 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should use other arrows, like ~> or <-| < 1473644849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I need to calculate where a line from 0 to a complex number z = a+bi intersects the unit circle a^2+(b*-i)^2 = 1, what equation would I use? < 1473644902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose maybe I'm just supposed to divide by the absolute value? That works for calculating sgn(x) (barring x=0), which this is a generalization of) < 1473644910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yep < 1473645001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that with a full line, there are two intersections. < 1473645059 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473645140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e ouch I hope none of the punsters on here see this: http://www.mezzacotta.net/pomh/?comic=65 <-- too late, i read that comic hth < 1473645140 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473645180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes int-e won't misinterpret that due to filthy english grammar. or maybe that would be appropriate.
< 1473645275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, I meant ray < 1473645310 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is factorial defined for the Gaussians?) < 1473645353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Vitsy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49709&oldid=49706 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-22) 10enough of this < 1473645481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FuckbeEs14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49710&oldid=49705 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-22) 10nipping this in the bud < 1473645491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, it needs to be based on the relationship between a and b & (a+b)! < 1473645598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: factorial is generally extended to the complexes with the gamma function. it's probably unlikely to send gaussians to themselves. < 1473645628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, but I was going for something that doesn't require calculus to understand < 1473645662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, the gamma function is stupid. Pi function is much better) < 1473645680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm guessing you're unlikely to find something logical, but i dunno. < 1473645743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if there's a rule for (a + i)! < 1473645756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what you'd need to make sense of this. < 1473645879 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but you know where to look for such a rule, right? http://dlmf.nist.gov/5.5 . and since it's not there, you can be sure there's no easy rule. < 1473645901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that. < 1473645982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Or you need to know ki! and (a+b)! < 1473646001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defining ki! is the hard part, most likely < 1473646040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1473646074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there wasn't any rule for calculating (a+b)! either hth < 1473646087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I hoped there would be < 1473646099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. (a+b)! = a!b! or something < 1473646110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you'd really just need i! < 1473646145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's the rule for exp hth < 1473646169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, it was an example < 1473646175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose i! is enough < 1473646204 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there a pole or something there? < 1473646211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0! = 1; k! = k*((k-1)!) < 1473646224 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, there isn't < 1473646309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a+b)! = (a+b)*((a+b-1)!) = (a+b)*((a+b-1)*((a+b-2)!)) < 1473646311 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the poles are at ik-1 for every integer k < 1473646314 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just dumb < 1473646314 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1473646326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about just blind experimentation < 1473646445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to find some patterns, see if they generalize < 1473646453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3! = 6; 2! = 2; (3+2)! = 5! = 120; 120 = 12*10 = 10*6*2 = 6*5*2*2 < 1473646638 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: um the poles are at -k for natural k hth < 1473646652 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1473646654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1473646661 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was holding this thing sideways then < 1473646667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1473646670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3*5*2*2*2... a*(a+b)*(a*b) where a > b it seems; if a < b it's 2*(2+3)*(2*3) = 2*5*6 = 60 = 120/2 I guess? < 1473646704 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473646729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2! = 2; (2+2)! = 4! = 24. 2*(2+2)*(2*2) = 2*4*4 = 32, so that pattern doesn't hold. < 1473646759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s/a > b/a >= b/ or it doesn't work for any even numbers) < 1473646767 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473646802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck outpatterning euler and gauss hth < 1473646810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ty < 1473646873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's probably impossible or really really weird, really, as (1) (k+0)! has to equal k!, so unless (a+b)! really just is a!b! (which I have a feeling I'll disprove with the first example) that doesn't work < 1473646938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (2) there are a LOT of different ways to write k as a sum < 1473646992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to test if (a+b)! = a!b!, (2+3)! = 5! = 120; 2! = 2, 3! = 6, 6*2 /= 120 < 1473647053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3!(2^2)! = 6*24 = 144 < 1473647100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3*2)! = 6! = 720 < 1473647165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I keep seeing patterns, but I'm not sure where they're coming from; 720=144/2*10) < 1473647201 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: f(a+b) = f(a)f(b) on the reals holds _only_ for exponentials hth < 1473647211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, figured < 1473647232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: n! is kind of a not-quite-but-frustratingly-close-to exponential, isn't it? < 1473647232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, assuming an even slightly nice function - there are axiom of choice counterexamples) < 1473647243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU SAY SO < 1473647396 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm s/reals/rationals/ and its completely true. < 1473647454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, (n+1)! = n!*(n+1) apparently < 1473647466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, what?) < 1473647498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4! = 24; 6*4 = 24 < 1473647512 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473647526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that is pretty obvious < 1473647537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some algebration of the definition given above that everyone has memorized < 1473647543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Low battery) < 1473647611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsG6MSpWAAAdTob.jpg < 1473647624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is irritating < 1473647792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473648363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473649213 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473649223 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473650622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the best notation for subfactorial? < 1473650660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, should n! just be considered to equal Gam(n-1) at this point? The same way we didn't need a new sign for + when we went from integers to reals?) < 1473650680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is it n+1?) < 1473650885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And presumably, there's some equivalent to the gamma function (Maybe we should just call it L(x) where L is an approximate upside-down gamma?) for derangement- L(x) = (n-1)(Γ(n-1)+Γ(n-2)) < 1473651067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, gamma is defined for complex numbers < 1473651172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and i! is irrationally complex, of course < 1473651306 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473651769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: s/Γ/L/g < 1473651902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah < 1473651915 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I just noticed that < 1473651922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? inory < 1473651929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inorically, inory is when you say something is irony that really isn't. Someone who does this is an inorite. < 1473651962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits inory < 1473651967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473651978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/inory < 1473651980 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] < 1473652023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the functions with the property f(n) = (n-1) (f(n-1) + f(n-2)) are obviously exactly the linear combinations of n! and !n < 1473652074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it strange if only one of them had a complex extension. but the wikipedia page doesn't list one. < 1473652104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait hm < 1473652170 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is !n < 1473652188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :subfactorial < 1473652197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement < 1473652212 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1473652332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really a fan of !n notation because it's liable to be confused with ~n < 1473652345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1473652360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why are you using 2's complement for anything but computers?" < 1473652391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 2-adic numbers hth < 1473652429 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1473652440 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can use 10's-complement for everything else < 1473652444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ssssssshhhhhhhhhh < 1473652457 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ~n and !n are totally different HTH < 1473652460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 10's-complement doesn't give a field, you philistine < 1473652481 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Um, the base 10 analogue for 2s complement is 9s complement. < 1473652507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh! then i guess 10's complement _does_ give a field. smashing! < 1473652533 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I filter the duplicates out? < 1473652556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: um wouldn't 9's complement correspond to 1's complement? < 1473652571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: which duplicates? < 1473652572 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my memory's messed up. < 1473652597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i mean, purely from the naming. it wouldn't be the first time mathematical naming is messed up. < 1473652622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a 3's complement? < 1473652625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course, this makes ternary impossible to speak of) < 1473652727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: problem is, with binary you speak of both 1's and 2's complement, which means if you try to extend it to all bases you get overlapping meanings... < 1473652765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1473652797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the 1's complement in base 3 is different from the 1's complement in base 2? < 1473652800 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, I'm wrong. 9's and 1's are analogous, 10's and 2's are analogous. < 1473652819 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think 10's complement as I meant it is the same as 10-adic numbers? I know that ...99999 is -1, for instance < 1473652820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... a little disconcerting < 1473652860 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1's complement base 3 would be, what, the 3's complement minus 2? < 1473652868 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not really sure < 1473652879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah i understood what you _meant_ < 1473652882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What would 3's complement be < 1473652897 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and yes it doesn't give a field, because rational numbers aren't a field either < 1473652919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 3's complement would be _either_ for base 3 or base 4, with different meanings < 1473652921 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :3's complement base 3 is 3^n - y where y is the number and n is the number of digits. < 1473652926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, how do you invert the trits of a 3-digit number? < 1473652942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: um rational numbers are a field hth < 1473652958 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because the radix complement in any base is b^n - y where b is the base, n the number of digits, and y is the number, apparently) < 1473653099 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm, sorry. not the rationals. rather, the subset of rationals representable using at most k digits after the point in base b. < 1473653136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the way you make p-adics a field are by allowing finite number of digits after the point, and infinite before < 1473653147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this does not work for non-prime p. < 1473653157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1473653170 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, who cares whether its a field < 1473653210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unary: mits, marks; binary: bits; ternary: trits; quaternary: tits (tetra- instead of quat-; not qits to avoid confusion with qubits); quinary: pits (again, can't use q, so swapped roots); senary: snits; octal: oits (pronounced "wits"); decimal: dits/digits; dozenal: zigits (so as not to use "zits"); etc.) < 1473653264 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base 256: octets HTH < 1473653440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Is the 16's complement of higits/hits (hexadecimal) numbers the same as the 2's complement of the binary equivalent? < 1473653511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ah, wolfram.com has a formula using the incomplete gamma function http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Subfactorial.html < 1473653638 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno for sure, but it intuitively seems like it should be. < 1473653749 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. The 16's complement of n is 16^n-digits_16(n), while the 2's complement of n is 2^n-digits_2(n). 16=2^4, digits_16(n)=floor(digits_2(n)/4)... < 1473653752 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1473653777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phinary is a thing < 1473653794 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a phine base indeed < 1473653923 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, no wonder I'm confused here, I wrote things wrong. < 1473653946 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :16^digits_16(n)-n, 2^digits_2(n)-n. Those are the expressions I should be looking at. < 1473654047 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :digits_2(n) = 4 * digits_16(n). So, 2^digits_2(n) = 2^(4*digits_16(n)) = 16^digits_16(n). < 1473654083 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, the 16's complement of a hexadecimal number is the same as the 2's complement of the same number in binary. < 1473654172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473654207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: apparently the incomplete gamma function is harder to extend to complex numbers than the usual one, it can become multivalued. < 1473654217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incomplete_gamma_function < 1473654286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the case of subfactorial, because of a factor (-1)^s < 1473654303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1473654316 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I find a definition of the differential forms thing you were talking about the other day? < 1473654369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello̼ < 1473654389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't wikipedia have this stuff < 1473654420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i אוריין < 1473654425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. Which article? < 1473654443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Differential form"? < 1473654459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like i've looked. < 1473654505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i vaguely recall once having had this explained in university, i have no idea if there even was a book involved. < 1473654519 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I want this vector space that you were talking about. < 1473654525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe "exterior algebra". < 1473654575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that does look promising < 1473654660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this "unordered set of basis elements" basis used anywhere? < 1473654682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or is it a non-empty unordered set?) < 1473654684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale might know. < 1473654768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it'd be empty for the 0 components case i guess. < 1473654792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for n components, you need sets with n elements < 1473654977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the correct term is "n-vector" < 1473655063 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Taneb invented them? < 1473655083 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :who invented taneb? < 1473655095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cis < 1473655096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1473655101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1473655152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd cis//s/web c/webc/ < 1473655153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosebud! < 1473655154 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? april < 1473655155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :april? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473655159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ci//s/web c/webc/ < 1473655160 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? january < 1473655161 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ci//The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with webcomics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1473655162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :january? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473655176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1473655184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/password < 1473655186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 40 Aug 2 03:16 wisdom/password < 1473655195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1473655196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is Strindberg < 1473655304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is au cœur de septembre < 1473655306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is au cœur de septembre < 1473655667 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What? < 1473655686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you missed the conversation the other day. < 1473655702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think oerjan was talking about the definition of multivectors? < 1473655714 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how does `learn know to update the password in that case? < 1473655735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: it ignores articles < 1473655740 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1473655743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some thing that has some complicated ordered basis or something. < 1473655774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the "Duality" section in that wikipedia article seems closest to what i said < 1473655810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(about universal property. the "Universal property" section is a different view.) < 1473655900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh and the basis is also shown in another section. (no mention of unordered sets though) < 1473656068 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473656242 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, any mtg player? < 1473656265 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a gilt-leaf seer < 1473656268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mtg < 1473656269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473656272 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1473656278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name gilt-leaf seer < 1473656279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gilt-Leaf Seer \ 2G \ Creature -- Elf Shaman \ 2/2 \ {G}, {T}: Look at the top two cards of your library, then put them back in any order. \ LRW-C < 1473656295 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much would you pay for it? < 1473656368 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see, according to this site it's worth up to a whopping $0.80 http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/search_result.asp?Set_Name=Lorwyn < 1473656397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you selling it? < 1473656415 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i don't play this game < 1473656436 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rarely play Magic: the Gathering but I do know all of the rules < 1473656442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can build your starter deck around it. < 1473656443 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the card is in italian and i found it in a book < 1473656453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want deck-building tips? < 1473656458 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1473656460 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1473656464 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could come in handy someday < 1473656465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend including at least one basic land. < 1473656471 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that sounds good < 1473656474 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a land? < 1473656477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a type of card. < 1473656480 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Land is one of the types. < 1473656484 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1473656504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are very few decks that don't use land. < 1473656505 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to built deck can differ based on whether it is standard or vintage or draft or whatever, too. < 1473656523 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is it gonna cost me? < 1473656526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes non-English cards are worth more than English cards. < 1473656550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that particular card is probably not going to be very valuable no matter what. < 1473656560 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic lands I think you can get not costing as much as other cards, because they are very common and you can get in all sets. < 1473656583 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, only unique variants of basic lands end up being costly. < 1473656585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give you a basic land card for free. < 1473656596 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also found this black lotus thingy, is it worth anything? < 1473656605 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but those are in no way superior) < 1473656609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blacker Lotus is worth more. < 1473656609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black Lotus is worth a lot; it is on the reserved list meaning they can't reprint it. < 1473656619 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is being funny
< 1473656621 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Either you're fucking with me, or you're not aware that that is a really expensive card. < 1473656622 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it is restricted in Vintage and banned in all other formats. < 1473656657 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, unless you play Vintage or like to collect it (whether to keep or to resell), it might not be worth as much to you. < 1473656666 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the going price for a Black Lotus these days, 30k? < 1473656673 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473656686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely not. < 1473656688 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.5k http://www.ebay.it/itm/like/262597320477?lpid=96&chn=ps < 1473656698 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does ebay.com redirect to .it < 1473656703 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid localization < 1473656727 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, 30k is probably going price for a mint Alpha Black Lotus, not a Black Lotus in general. < 1473656731 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473656754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'd believe that. < 1473656790 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473656891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You should start an investment management company that provides Magic: The Gathering ETFs. < 1473656903 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1473656933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might buy some shares in your 3x Bull Power Nine ETF < 1473656967 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473656983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn MTG is short for Money Tapping Game. < 1473656986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'mtg': MTG is short for Money Tapping Game. < 1473657027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that supposed to be a pun on "tapping", a frequent action that can be applied to objects on the battlefield in Magic: The Gathering? < 1473657039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Can you ever tap or untap something that isn't on the battlefield?) < 1473657055 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. Only permanents can be tapped/untapped. < 1473657084 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Any object on the battlefield is a permanent.) < 1473657091 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the word "permanent". < 1473657098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not really, i'd have used a better word if i could think of one. < 1473657123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish there was a Magic: The Gathering Online eXchange < 1473657128 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473657141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome aloril < 1473657142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aloril: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1473657143 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, only permanents can be destroyed, sacrificed, attached to other objects/players, have status, etc < 1473657172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a permanent can be phased out. < 1473657197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; only permanents can be phased out (and most effects ignore them while phased out). < 1473657219 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankfully nothing can go in the phased out zone anymore. < 1473657236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a phased out zone? < 1473657241 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1473657248 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There used to be. Not any more. < 1473657255 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phasing has had many, *many* hacks to make it work in the past. < 1473657257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was just a phase. < 1473657260 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of those hacks was a zone. < 1473657274 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A custom card I made up some time ago got a different function due to them changing this rule actually.) < 1473657292 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473657334 0 :izalove!~izabera@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473657342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wish there was a Magic: The Gathering Online eXchange <-- all it takes is one big bitcoin investment hth < 1473657345 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not playing in an official tournament, you may also use proxies, by agreement of players involved; and custom cards, by agreement of players involved. So purchasing the cards is not always necessary. If playing Limited format tournament, you need not bring your own cards (it won't help anyways); you can purchase cards as part of the entry fee. < 1473657427 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473657473 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always keep track of rule changes to Magic: the Gathering, far more often than I play, actually. < 1473657534 0 :izalove!~izabera@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1473657534 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1473657903 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473658218 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.26.29 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473658819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very sound logic in today's girl genius. < 1473661186 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought a pair of headphones that are so unconfortable they're killing my ears < 1473661187 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473661188 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in hell < 1473661513 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473662248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets fire to izalove's headphones
< 1473662332 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1473663400 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/KSP/MurcielagoAtMun.PNG < 1473663449 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice sunset < 1473664790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473665913 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473667038 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1473667045 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1473667045 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 7h 21m 32s ago: oerjan says it's really quite simple hth < 1473667045 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 7h 11m 31s ago: does that mean it's star trek < 1473667067 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, in this case, ST stands for Student Tele < 1473667170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1473667210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb and yes, it's quite simple. < 1473667235 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the VN then stands for vision Network) < 1473667252 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll link you all the episodes as they go online < 1473667282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THREATS WILL GET YOU NOWHERE < 1473667549 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ć̨̽͑ͨ̏ͬ̈́̈͋͆͛͒ͩͥ̆̈́̑͗̑͢͏̡̟̳̤̝͈̼̗̦̝̯̤̦̝̘̩̣͡ͅỏ͂̈́͊́ͬͩ҉͉̥͖̬͙̹̻̫̼̬́͜͝ͅͅǘ̢ͧͭͧ̽̽̏̂̔ͤ̃̇̿҉̡̼̬͖̞͖͈̙͓̙̱̩̹ͅľ̸̨͚̖͇͈͔̘̟̺ͮ̀̓͐̽̾̂ͣͣͧ́̽̀̈́̕͜͜ḋͯ̾̀ͨ̆ͩͯ̾ͮ̂҉̷̟̥̻̠̞̮̺̫̖͍̪̼̳̗̘͈̠̻̣ ̷̻̹̰̖͇̬̺̗͙̩̙͔̻̻̘̟̻͎͙ͦ͊̄ͣ̇ͮ̾ͯ̾̓͂͂ͨ̍͑̈͒͠ < 1473667550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0106 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH ACUTE] [U+033D COMBINING X ABOVE] [U+0351 COMBINING LEFT HALF RING ABOVE] [U+0368 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER C] [U+030F COMBINING DOUBLE GRAVE ACCENT] [U+036C COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0344 COMBINING GREEK DIALYTIKA TONOS] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS] [U+034B COMBINING HOMOTHETIC ABOVE] [U+0346 COMB < 1473669343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473669414 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473669722 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f801:9034:6dd9:cdd1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473669770 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f801:9034:6dd9:cdd1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473669932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...woooooooooooooow < 1473669953 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Albany was considering a law that'd make it a crime to walk away from Airport security (as in, leaving the airport without boarding your flight) < 1473670022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK, I'm beginning to think Hillary might ACTUALLY have some health issues < 1473670062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't see why she'd run for President if she did (unless she was in denial or figured it wouldn't kill her in the next 8 years) < 1473670091 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :becaus at least it's not trump? < 1473670111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Hillary is /marginally/ better than Trump? < 1473670119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It boils down to shot in the leg vs. shot in the head to me < 1473670169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, the signs showed up during a 9/11 ceremony (she nearly collapsed when leaving, claiming she felt overheated. Trump is, of course, going to say something about how she was just bored and looking for an excuse to leave, because c'mon, it's Trump and that's exactly the kind of crazy thing he'd say), so it could've just been an emotional thing < 1473670170 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome tp the usa :p < 1473670190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm pretty sure being emotional /doesn't/ cause your legs to give out usually; wouldn't it generally be the opposite? < 1473670230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the video doesn't look like that: https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200/video/1 < 1473670295 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], BBC is reporting she's been diagnosed with pneumonia < 1473670300 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tbh, outlook in germany is not that great either < 1473670349 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, I think the world is either going to end in the next 2 years or this is going to be a long boring period that you'll have to learn about in history where everything sucked < 1473670521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever shoot a video the news starts asking to use, I'm going to have to make some absurd condition < 1473670561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, "Yes, but only if you say 'All glory to ba'al the soul-eater' on air" < 1473670606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, "Cthulhu fhtagn" < 1473672588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if she drops out, then Tim Kaine (her VP) would be a much better president probably < 1473672632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a nominee drops out, does their running mate become the nominee? < 1473672638 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1473672659 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: basically, the DNC would decide by a new vote of the delegates < 1473672666 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1473672676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yep, looks like she actually has pneumonia < 1473672696 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was seen giving hug today to little children < 1473672712 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pneumonia is a huge cause of death for children under 6 < 1473672755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Your point? < 1473672791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, if it's contagious (is pneumonia contagious? I've always thought it was a symptom of various things, some of which are contagious) she might have passed it? < 1473672793 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point is pneumonia is really contagious < 1473672805 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or most causes anyway < 1473672831 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, then you can narrow it down to causes that aren't contagious < 1473672847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the news, I feel like we're on an exponential curve towards a tipping point at which there is an anticlimactic resolution < 1473672865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Unless she didn't know < 1473672882 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whe supposedly was diagnosed on friday < 1473673038 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, one cause of pneumonia is stroke < 1473673111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1473673124 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another is parkinson's disease < 1473673124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm beginning to think there might be a serial killer on the loose in anchorage < 1473673146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think we're looking at this wrong; do lizards get pneumonia? < 1473673193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, WTF, there was a double murder at Valley of the Moon‽ < 1473673195 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. lizards have lungs < 1473673491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooooooow, APD doesn't broadcast the police scanner anymore (and they encrypt the stream) < 1473673595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm relieved that you mean Anchorage and not Atherton. < 1473673622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mercurynews.com/2011/08/27/the-best-of-atherton-police-blotter/ < 1473674407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm convinced, definitely a serial killer < 1473675492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( If somebody comes out as gay on Wikipedia, does that constitute original research? )
< 1473676198 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official "overheated" explanation suggests more robots than lizards. < 1473676961 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473676994 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dialogue between coworker that does webthings and coworker that does zfs: < 1473677002 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- why are we still using less in 2016? < 1473677011 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- less? the command line pager? < 1473677032 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- no, less is... do you know coffeescript? well, less is to css like coffeescript is to js < 1473677046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Um, lizards are coldblooded and need to move in and out of sunlight to control body temperature. hth. < 1473677046 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- . . . < 1473677337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No new xkcd yet!? < 1473677549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, I want to read a dinosaur comics that is more historically accurate AND where t rex wears more :,( < 1473677832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473677963 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory is that trump is increasing his stamina using amphetamines, i.e. adderall < 1473677998 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's always jittery < 1473678118 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473679014 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473680219 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473682235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Logicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49711&oldid=49694 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+102) 10 < 1473682943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Logicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49712&oldid=49697 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+309) 10 < 1473683116 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f801:9034:6dd9:cdd1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473685231 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473685630 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-xyjlxsuvjcvracvd JOIN :#esoteric < 1473685872 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1473687770 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473688432 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473688573 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473688892 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473689043 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473692004 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473693864 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1473700259 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473700292 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473700298 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473700370 0 :moony!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473700437 0 :moony!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1473700496 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473700512 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boop < 1473700767 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473701953 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1473702036 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1473703002 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473703255 0 :danofthedeep!~danofthed@c-174-50-100-100.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473703293 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473705104 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep < 1473705511 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1527.pdf very interesting < 1473705520 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there no link bot in this chan? < 1473705524 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i bring mine? < 1473705591 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://fliptomato.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/medical-researcher-discovers-integration-gets-75-citations/ < 1473705616 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:3017:2467:885a:54d7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473705715 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473706320 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473706323 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF that's even worse! < 1473706494 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means eight new expansion symbols per year. Four for ordinary expert level expansion sets, two for this "Masterpiece Series" they just announced (why don't they just print the expansion set's symbol in a different color for that), one for a casual supplementary product and one for a duel decks. < 1473706497 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's horrible! < 1473706530 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though at least now they have the set code printed at the bottom, but still. < 1473706613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473706683 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although at least these cards will probably be rare, so maybe there's only six expansion symbols per year I'll commonly see. < 1473706915 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Magic: the Gathering stuff) < 1473706916 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:6: error: expected: "#", < 1473706916 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1473706916 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1473706916 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1473706916 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1473707399 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1473707440 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473707912 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? [:trigger [:upkeep :you]; :iif [:equal [:life :you], 1]; :do [:win :you]] < 1473709729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473709736 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:3017:2467:885a:54d7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's iif? < 1473709767 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess :iff < 1473710143 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intervening if clause < 1473710180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I like the general idea. I'm not sure about the specific syntax and semantics. < 1473710321 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What might you suggest to change? The syntax is RDF syntax. < 1473710402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not yet sure what it should look like. < 1473710553 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473710714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473710776 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473711180 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this format can help to implement effects of Magic: the Gathering cards in computer program, as well as to search the card database by effect (such as with Gremlin or SPARQL or whatever) instead of only by text. < 1473711321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473711346 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473711521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What I want is a small core set of rules, and for most keywords and so on to be implemented in a "standard library". < 1473711541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which just uses the same language that's used on cards. < 1473711592 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did too intend that keywords can be implemented in a standard library too, as well as various other rules can be implemented in a standard library < 1473711744 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473711922 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473711946 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473712201 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473712368 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473712542 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473712580 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1473712598 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473713695 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:3017:2467:885a:54d7 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473714887 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a "link bot"? < 1473714934 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :a title displayer, I guess < 1473714951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's a good idea. < 1473714957 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect one of those do anything reasonable with a .pdf. < 1473714966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can put your bot in here and have it /msg you the titles of links. < 1473714977 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why not? < 1473714990 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it seems like much to expect. < 1473714995 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or make it dispay titles, but not for every link it sees, but only when he's addressed? < 1473715009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perlbot, head http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1473715016 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it has that command < 1473715030 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, perlbot isn't here < 1473715054 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it answers in private < 1473715064 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473715072 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, answers when private messaged < 1473715291 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473715529 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473715548 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnZb-ibenFA < 1473715971 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473716086 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473716822 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473718859 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473718949 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473718979 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473719132 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473719363 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473719368 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473719388 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473719523 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473719594 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473719620 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473719645 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473719666 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea for a hash table: < 1473719680 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- generate a bunch of primes < 1473719728 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- when you first allocate a new hash table, associate it the first prime in the list < 1473719755 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- when inserting, hash the key and multiply it by the table's current prime < 1473719775 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473719791 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we get a collision, check the next k elements where k may be 1 for example < 1473719832 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- if all the next k elements are occupied, we choose the next prime and try to rehash all the keys < 1473719858 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- if we run out of primes, resize the hash table < 1473719980 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we fix k, this guarantees O(1) worst case search time, O(n) worst case insertion time and O(1) avg insertion time, right? < 1473720053 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be great if you access the elements way more often than you insert them < 1473720128 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473720146 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what did I miss. Who is izalove? < 1473720150 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's me < 1473720155 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some version of) java used a simple formula like doing 3x+1 with a magic number starting point, iirc that generated a series of primes up to a billion < 1473720167 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I seen you here before, possibly under a different nick? < 1473720175 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera maybe < 1473720178 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1473720181 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1473720197 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's just an alternate nick < 1473720215 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :planning to keep it for a while at least < 1473720239 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1473720279 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is that a super bad idea? < 1473720292 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't implemented it yet so i dunno how well it works < 1473720453 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you "check forbthe next element"? < 1473720474 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473720502 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (!strcmp(key, table[hash+1].key)) < 1473720508 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1473720512 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473720619 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the role of the primes unless you make hash functions that hash to primes < 1473720631 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uhm < 1473720673 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least make it unlikely to have "relevant" divisors < 1473720684 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1473720708 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratch the idea < 1473720720 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead let's use a set of different hash functions < 1473720770 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know cuckoo hashing? < 1473720773 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1473720810 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably better eh? < 1473720901 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the primes thing was just to have an easy way to generate hash functions < 1473720914 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473720943 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess one can use a hash function that outputs 64 bits and do something like (hi32 * prime) ^ lo32 < 1473720967 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that look reasonable? < 1473721107 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot figure out how to make a addon for Node.js (and on #Node.js channel, they don't help either). I looked at the NAN package but I do not understand it. < 1473721186 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does spund esoteric enough < 1473721248 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :While FFI is too slow. < 1473721300 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some other stuff I have found fails to compile on this version of Node.js < 1473721309 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that sounds bad. I hope you'll find other people on the internet who understand node.js and can help you. < 1473721478 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473721612 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473721803 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a few different packages for accessing SQLite from JavaScript but none of them are very good. < 1473722053 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of them allow implement virtual table modules or VFS. I found sql.js which implements SQLite entirely in JavaScript (so there is no need for native addons), although it only works with in-memory databases (VFS support could avoid this limitation), and since it is implemented entirely in JavaScript it cannot use SQLite extensions. < 1473722092 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that latter is scary < 1473722109 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can you perhaps take one of the existing extensions, if they're of a good quality, and extend them? < 1473722528 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What latter is scary? < 1473722605 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the part where they implement it in node.js < 1473722770 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are addons so difficult? < 1473722860 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen someone wanted to add built-in FFI support to V8 and that would improve it a lot. But, they don't do that yet < 1473722941 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can I ask why you're using node.js? < 1473722950 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just curious < 1473722996 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is to execute a JavaScript program, so that I can write a JavaScript program with < 1473723045 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1473723604 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would expect that communicating through a pipe would be as slow as FFI, I think? Node.js doesn't even have a function to create a pipe. < 1473723750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473723943 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any C++ programming? < 1473724052 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who, me? yes < 1473724190 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you would know how to do it then. < 1473724196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potentially-useful function: sign-preserving power < 1473724253 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, I think in some circumstances it can help. < 1473724254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b^'p = sgn(b)*abs(b)^p < 1473724263 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to do what? < 1473724273 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have had use for such in some program I have written once) < 1473724273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The most notable circumstance, I think, is root-mean-square < 1473724298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because negative numbers don't really go well in the root-mean-square AFAICT (they become positive) < 1473724302 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: How to do Node.js extension with NAN. I read the documentation but I don't understand so well < 1473724324 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know anything about node.js < 1473724346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So replace the square root with the sign-preserving square root and instead of squaring numbers, sign-preserving square them < 1473724530 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least some of the time, negative numbers are *supposed* to become positive when you root-mean-square them. < 1473724531 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Root-mean-square is usually about getting the "magnitude" of something... I think. < 1473724550 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One example is the way that we talk about AC voltage. < 1473724568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I thought it was just a different version of average with some different benefits and downsides < 1473724570 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When people talk about "120 volts AC", that means AC with a RMS of 120 volts. < 1473724583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Traditionally, is the distance between two complex numbers real or complex? E.g. do you just find the absolute value of the difference of their absolute values, or would it actually be complex itself?) < 1473724613 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Look at the documentation for NAN and see if you can understand that if you know any C++ programming. < 1473724617 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The distance between two complex numbers is the absolute value of their difference. So it's always real and nonnegative. < 1473724625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Ah < 1473724656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( sqrt((a-c)^2+((b-d)^2)i) )
< 1473724657 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: got a link? < 1473724697 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: https://github.com/nodejs/nan < 1473724820 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry, I'm not going to try to understand that now < 1473724857 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1473725057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473725496 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. There's this language I'm creating... I think I'm calling it Tokiber. < 1473725496 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This language is experimental and will probably never be implemented. < 1473725522 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of funny how it's turning out so far. < 1473725555 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Examples of things I have figured out how to define: monoids, groups, rings, categories, functors, natural transformations. < 1473725564 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example of something I haven't figured out how to define: addition. < 1473725816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunes isn't loading :( < 1473727095 0 :hydraz!?@? NICK :hydPaz < 1473729114 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473729663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Try defining subtraction; then you just do a-(0-b) < 1473729695 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be great, except that I've only defined the natural numbers, not the integers. < 1473729702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: laaaaaaame < 1473729711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What's the language like?) < 1473729724 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a deranged version of Haskell. < 1473729731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all nuclear powers made a no-first-use policy, would nuclear weapons even be useful? < 1473729767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How about "no-first-use, but only for countries that have the same policy or a total no-first-use policy?) < 1473729770 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if everyone is obeying a no-first-use policy, then nobody can ever use nuclear weapons. < 1473729779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\)/"\)/ < 1473729784 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent, excellent < 1473729791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What's the policy on chemical weapons? < 1473729792 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making them useless. < 1473729807 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I have a definition of integer addition in Haskell at http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/Bin.hs , maybe try to derange that < 1473729873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Can you do 2-tuples? < 1473729878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And booleans? < 1473729886 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it has 2-tuples and booleans. < 1473729889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nuclear weapons are useful to prevent others from changing their minds about using them hth < 1473729900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, that's what I figured < 1473729906 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The definition of booleans is a little weird. < 1473729937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: OK, then an integer is (Nat, Bool). If the boolean is true, it's negative, if it's false, it's the same as the Nat < 1473729940 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory BoolType { sort Bool; true : Bool; false : Bool; } < 1473729978 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, how do I define subtraction on integers without already having defined addition on natural numbers? < 1473730164 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: see the definitions I linked? it defines addition and subtraction independetly. though you can also define them together, if you want shorter definitions, like < 1473730247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=849296 where I define addition, subtraction, and comparison all together, although that only works for natural numbers < 1473730257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"General of the Armies" is apparently the highest available military rank (basically a 6-star general). George Washington was posthumously promoted; only one American has ever received it while alive < 1473730266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, highest army rank) < 1473730269 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that latter is cheating, it uses a lot of perl's builtins < 1473730289 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so look at the haskell one, which defines the operations straight with pattern matching on algebraic types < 1473730351 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I think the hard part here is defining the *language*. < 1473730383 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not having trouble defining addition; I'm having trouble deciding which language features to add in order to allow myself to define addition. < 1473730392 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ok < 1473730412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.5+sqrt(1.25)-star general < 1473730448 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's easier, I prefer languages that have arithmetic built-in, so why don't you add arithmetic as a language feature? < 1473730477 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't have to. < 1473730533 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. I think I've figured it out. < 1473730547 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna post some stuff. < 1473730556 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paste some stuff, rather. < 1473730561 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you don't want any arithmetic built-ins, then I recommend my haskell code, because it shows how to define addition and subtraction and multiplication and division of integers represented in binary from the ground up < 1473730665 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473730702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, legally, George Washington outranks everyone forever. < 1473730756 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: how can he outrank everyone forever? can't people just invent higher ranks later? like, if I take over the world and name myself dictator, then I give myself whatever titles and ranks I want. < 1473730804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah, but if a higher rank is created he gets promoted to it < 1473730823 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if I'm a dictator < 1473730824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It may take them a while to remember to do that though) < 1473730829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He doesn't outrank me. < 1473730841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Well if you're a dictator, the US no longer exists so that law is void < 1473730870 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/192258 - addition and multiplication defined in my language. < 1473730888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Also, outranks in the army. Dictator is political < 1473730900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Does a dictator count as a politician? )
< 1473730913 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, dictators decide policy. That makes them politicians. < 1473731067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It just doesn't feel right to call them that though; they don't have to worry about "approval ratings" or "not being evil" < 1473731328 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1473731331 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme look up the definition... < 1473731371 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One engaged in politics, especially an elected or appointed government official." https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/politician < 1473731389 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google says: "a person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office." < 1473731407 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the holder of an elected political office is definitely a politician. < 1473731421 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd say that you're still a politician even if the office isn't elected. < 1473731895 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: so does this language have deranged GADT so you can define types with higher-rank polymorphism and non-uniform recursive functions on them? < 1473731932 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean, does it have deranged GADT so you can define types with deranged higher-rank polymorphism and deranged non-uniform recursive functions on them? < 1473731936 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far I don't think I have any kind of polymorphism at all. I don't know what a non-uniform recursive function is. < 1473731963 0 :7GHAB0D05!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473731963 0 :7F1AB7QLJ!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473731973 0 :7F1AB7QLJ!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1473731973 0 :7GHAB0D05!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1473731985 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473731985 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1473731996 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473732271 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. My next challenge will be defining lists. < 1473732306 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think you'll need polymorphism to define lists in general < 1473732353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, why is the UK not called the United Queendom? < 1473732396 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yup. Lists are kind of inherently a polymorphic thing. < 1473732411 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they'd have to change their name every time the monarch changes genders. < 1473732445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Their national anthem is "God Save the Queen" < 1473732471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If their monarch was a cross-dressing man, would it still be "God Save the [Drag] Queen"? < 1473732500 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says that the name of the national anthem *does* change every time the monarch changes genders. < 1473732514 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473732522 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473732666 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they change the portrait of the queen on coins < 1473732811 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1473733003 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473733162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so do norwegians. not sure about the song thing (it's not our national anthem, but we have a king song with the same melody as the english one. in two generations we might get our first modern queen, too. i can see a slight scansion problem with changing the lyrics...) < 1473733162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one were to personify countries and other government (and non-government) organizations, how would subdivisions and such work? < 1473733184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would US states be younger siblings or children of the US? And what about the Confederacy? < 1473733224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they use to play both songs when the king holds his new year speech) < 1473733258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*modern queen regnant < 1473733269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like the Confederacy should be a child of the US (and the US the child of the UK), but then the US states can't be that because a rebellion is distinctly different from a subsidiary government (duh) < 1473733348 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the scansion problem is that the norwegian equivalents of "him" and "her" don't have the same number of syllables.) < 1473733415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That was my point < 1473733449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Your language is terrible hth < 1473733473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "ham" vs "henne" is terrible? < 1473733510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. The syllables of common words with almost identical meaning that only vary by context must be equal < 1473733534 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the confederacy and the union should be like in fight club obv. < 1473733616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Wat? < 1473733620 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't sound like a big problem. I mean, the poets who write the text of these anthems and other songs can work that around and make lyrics for both version. < 1473733622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm going for familial relations < 1473733640 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well your alternate personality is surely a family member < 1473733648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True... < 1473733649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the lyrics for the male version is already traditional, though. < 1473733651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooooh < 1473733673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You mean like [SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE TERRIBLE] how Brad Pitt is all in his head? < 1473733686 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1473733697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1473733702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes some sense I guess < 1473733704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1473733751 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they'd work like Steven Universe. < 1473733764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that works? But it doesn't feel right, because if the confederacy had succeeded it'd be a distinct country < 1473733779 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The United States is a single person that can split into 50 people (and a bunch of territories). < 1473733788 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: which reminds me that russian is also terrible: он vs. она < 1473733789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Nopenopenopenopenope < 1473733791 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they can fuse back into one person. < 1473733793 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so what's the solution? < 1473733802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Successor/splinter nations have to be children, I feel, but constituent states should be too... < 1473733803 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: oh, a superhero! < 1473733806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so is latin: is vs. ea < 1473733842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Also, what if I need Texas to talk to the US as a whole? < 1473733867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I guess I could just not be particularly clear as to how it works, but that doesn't seem as fun < 1473733947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And there's also the problem of other things- what the hell are the Democratic Party and the Republican Party? I guess they could be siblings?) < 1473733954 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: go, went, gone < 1473734003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could add some non-human stuff to it; both states AND rebellions would be be children, but rebellions are distinct in that they can just kind of separate < 1473734087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: solution? i dunno. they've got a generation or so to find out. < 1473734159 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait by "traditional", you don't mean it's been used for so long that there's been many kings and queens since, right < 1473734202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: there hasn't been a queen regnant since medieval times < 1473734219 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1473734223 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :long before the song was composed. < 1473734234 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1473734267 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473734278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it's only with the current generation the laws were changed to make a queen regnant _legal_ < 1473734289 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't really know how that works. < 1473734300 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :previously it was agnatic primogeniture < 1473734364 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you considered that the answer to "how does this work" is "it doesn't" hth < 1473734441 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think Hungary has only had one queen too, queen Mária Terézia, and that was way back when people were traditionally very gender-biased, so she needed some special stuff done by her ancestors so that she can be queen. < 1473734551 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, I'm wrong, she wasn't the only queen. < 1473734585 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was another queen before her in the Anjou dynasty < 1473734614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the king had elder sisters who were simply left out of the line; the crown prince has an elder sister who is in the line but _after_ him and his descendants. only the next generation will have complete equality. < 1473734639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of succession) < 1473734738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only queen regnant in norwegian history was Margrete I, who was also queen of denmark and sweden. < 1473734866 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moreover, in Númenor of old the sceptre descended to the eldest child of the king, whether man or woman. It is true that the law has not been observed in the lands of exile ever troubled by war; but such was the law of our people, to which we now refer, seeing that the sons of Ondoher died childless. < 1473735061 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473735128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the mezzacotta people have decided to keep doing privately the puzzle competitions they used to do on behalf of the company http://www.mezzacotta.net/puzzle/ < 1473735150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has never tried them, just felt like passing on
< 1473735247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yup < 1473735286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit now tunes loads but not in the browser < 1473735391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah it was probably my own demonstration of a lambdabot trick that triggered it. < 1473735645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that and quintopia's massive `unidecode line right after < 1473735969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nabjol (opposite of Lojban): All sentences are exactly the same ("Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn") < 1473736322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell izalove why is there no link bot in this chan? <-- because i banned the last one hth < 1473736322 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473736334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdh thx hand < 1473736379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You know who ELSE used laws to stop debates‽ HILTER!" < 1473736404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw̼ < 1473736421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode w̼ < 1473736424 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0077 LATIN SMALL LETTER W] [U+033C COMBINING SEAGULL BELOW] < 1473736426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: v. clever < 1473736435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't get it last time. < 1473736443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you got it on only my third try! < 1473736454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1473736459 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my terminal gets messed up all the time < 1473736473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1473736555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn HILTER is what happens when someone combines argumentum ad hitlerum, shouting, and muphry's law in one glorious clusterfuck. < 1473736558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'hilter': HILTER is what happens when someone combines argumentum ad hitlerum, shouting, and muphry's law in one glorious clusterfuck. < 1473737204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03XxXEliteXxx 5* 10New user account < 1473737219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks promising < 1473737260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think < 1473737279 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :XxXYesXxx < 1473737292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't managed to get snagged in the filter yet < 1473737331 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i been pinger < 1473737369 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, read the logs < 1473737412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: barely. < 1473737463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm looks like a vandal rather than a spammer so far < 1473737482 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing i was unidecoding renders fine for me, but i couldn't even tell what the underlying letters were < 1473737527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts fiendish < 1473737529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fïëndïsḧ < 1473737616 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay...turns out trying to find the optimal tokenization for this coder is REALLY SLOW. even if it compresses like 20% better it won't be worth this ridiculous wait... < 1473737621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are fondish of that word < 1473737657 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am fondish of fondue. it's a fun dish. < 1473737750 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when i go hiking, i prefer a foon dish.) < 1473737801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49713&oldid=49681 5* 03XxXEliteXxx 5* (+200) 10 < 1473737815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49714&oldid=49631 5* 03XxXEliteXxx 5* (-89) 10Removed unnecessary comment < 1473737958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49715&oldid=49714 5* 03XxXEliteXxx 5* (-62) 10 < 1473738948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shocking < 1473739083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49716&oldid=49715 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+89) 10Undo revision 49714 by [[Special:Contributions/XxXEliteXxx|XxXEliteXxx]] ([[User talk:XxXEliteXxx|talk]]) (This comment is by the language inventor and therefore sacred HTH) < 1473739205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm still not sure it's promising, but at least it's not a spammer. < 1473739957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473740963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473741126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Wait, would EU be the child or the parent of several countries? < 1473741172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The merging of two countries- e.g. East and West Germany- is of course caused by them having a child and then that child getting batman'd < 1473741173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1473741202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe they'll just adorably merge. Not sure how much I want to real-world it) < 1473741255 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :De jure East and West Germany didn't merge, instead East Germany was entirely dissolved and its constituent territories joined West Germany. < 1473741272 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't an adorable merge. < 1473742082 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What coder is that? < 1473742146 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1473743221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah; they merged and WG stuck. < 1473743230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EG was absorbed into WG < 1473743483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Was it majestic? < 1473743499 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: the Gathering has Urza's Avenger and the variant Jodah's Avenger but I would want to make up this new variant: {0}: ~ gets -1/-1 and gains your choice of banding, flanking, skulk, or menace until end of turn. < 1473743749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science: The Agriculturing < 1473743932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckin morons... < 1473743971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pearson Education only lets your password be a-zA-Z0-9@._- < 1473743979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has a MAXIMUM length < 1473743995 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: what's the maximum length? < 1473744010 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a maximum length of 1024 bytes or something can be reasonable < 1473744021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 32 < 1473744025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 characters < 1473744030 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'd prefer 4096 bytes < 1473744036 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32? that's too low < 1473744037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it encourages the ones humans can't remember but computers can guess < 1473744041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yeah. Fucking idiots. < 1473744071 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use a random string for that then at least you get a reasonable 193 bits of entropy. < 1473744073 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are these... oh, Pearson Education! yes, I've met the website of those idiots < 1473744076 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, ugh. < 1473744124 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has other problems than that < 1473744140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 characters should be enough f < 1473744219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but "may we spam you" is unchecked by default < 1473744247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's mandatory for AP Physics < 1473744340 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your password should have a very long maximum length (at least 255, preferably much more), a minimum of perhaps four or five, and allow any sequence of bytes including control characters and invalid UTF-8 sequences and whatever else you want. < 1473744360 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: agreed < 1473744379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, at least I used a password I've never used before < 1473744427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Any sequence *longer than a certain length < 1473744429 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it shouldn't allow tXqW0J9TC . That's a bad password, especially since it's now in the logs. < 1473744468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think these sites should have a minlength and NO other requirements; if you get hacked because someone guesses it, it's your fault for choosing a shitty password < 1473744487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's no way they could just know what is obvious to people who know you) < 1473744500 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: no no, I think it's completely fine to have SOME max length. I recommend 4096 bytes. < 1473744501 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you shouldn't select that password now it is in logs, but I think it shouldn't check anything except the length, and it is up to the user what password they want even if duplicating someone else's password by coincidence. < 1473744502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Minmax = 4096 bytes; all bits in the byte are independent < 1473744510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Well yeah, and a max < 1473744514 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A maximum length is needed, although it should be very high. < 1473744528 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably at least 4096 bytes. < 1473744549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, the "NO other requirements" was practical, not technical < 1473744589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the average user, "your password can't be more than 4096 bytes" isn't a requirement; it's just assumed because who would ever have a password that long? It's not like there are programs that make absurd passwords for you < 1473744589 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the system cannot handle that, lower it to 255, but you should try to avoid needing to lower it that much I think < 1473744604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes; you CAN lower it, but if you do you aren't using a very good system < 1473744618 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I agree, it isn't a very good system if you have to do < 1473744620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In fact, any sort of max length is kind of weird; you're hashing the password anyway < 1473744638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you aren't, YOU ARE DOING THIS WRONG START HASHING THOSE PASSWORDS STAT < 1473744645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND ADD SOME SALT < 1473744654 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and what kind of hashing? Yes, hashing and salt should be used. < 1473744657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND MEGA-ENCRYPT THE HINTS, DAMMIT < 1473744683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Good hashing; arguably, any hash works, but a cryptographic hash is what you should use < 1473744685 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No mandatory password hints. < 1473744694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Of course, and no security questions < 1473744697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mandatory < 1473744709 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, no mandatory security questions either. < 1473744724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That defeats the purpose of a secure password because people can just check your biography < 1473744741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Security questions should be optional, and you should be able to add your own < 1473744742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does, especially if your security question is that easy! < 1473744762 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes I agree, if security questions are provided at all, it should be optional and you are allowed to write your own question. < 1473744794 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your mother's maiden name? What is the name of your first pet? What was your favourite class in school? < 1473744796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, and if it's a bad question it's your own fault < 1473744826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you are right it is your own fault < 1473744837 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and your bank card pin code should be the year and month of your child's birthdate. < 1473744903 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four digits maximum is a too short password. < 1473744909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I wouldn't use bank card pins unless they let me make them (a) hex (b) 32 digits < 1473744925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think it's even a real password; the security is in "don't walk off with your card" < 1473744927 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password for your bank card and credit card and whatever should have a much larger maximum than just four digits. < 1473744936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/walk off/let other people walk off/ < 1473744943 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: how do you convince everyone with a POS terminal to allow that? < 1473744976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Anyone who doesn't will be taken into the woods and shot < 1473744983 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the current system is insecure even if they did make passwords longer actually. < 1473744999 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did propose my own system and protocol, and the customer is allowed to provide their own keypad. < 1473745011 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This can also prevent the merchant from cheating by making it display the wrong price. < 1473745036 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Display the wrong price where? < 1473745057 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the keypad for the credit card transaction < 1473745064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah? < 1473745070 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds a little suspicious, but OK < 1473745081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should also be able to set up a separate duress pin that works like the "enter your pin backwards" myth, but actually works < 1473745097 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why customer should be allowed to use their own keypad with their own software. < 1473745135 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, based on their own software and on the credit card company's service, other things might be possible such as passwords that automatically change every day if you want to. < 1473745166 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or alphanumeric passwords, or keypads that move the digits around to make it difficult to watch, or whatever) < 1473745252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should also be able to configure your garage door opener to lock/unlock the garage and disable certain remotes at will < 1473745255 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, the same protocol is used for the purchase by internet by credit cards; either by connecting your own keypad to the computer or by having a program on your computer tat emulates it. < 1473745288 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473745289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. "Your remote will only open my garage after 8:00, so you don't use it for non-booty-call-related purposes") < 1473745291 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Possibly someone might figure out such things < 1473745337 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reprogramming the garage mechanism in that way does not seem to be way too difficult, although you may need to install your own computer hardware to control it with < 1473745350 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, probably < 1473745359 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I want my router to be scriptable < 1473745372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to be able to put a Python program on the router and control how things work < 1473745388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("This computer can use the internet, but all images get flipped vertically") < 1473745422 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be too difficult since it has to figure out what is a picture; there are different formats, different protocols, and different kinds of encryption. < 1473745539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: upside-down-ternet < 1473745608 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just turn the monitor upsidedown; now the picture is upsidedown and it work regardless of the file format and protocols in use. < 1473745643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, but I want it to work on unsuspecting victims < 1473745650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, conditionallky < 1473745658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my router to be scriptable at will < 1473745704 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I too want router to be reprogrammable, but I described why that won't work anyways. < 1473745762 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473745807 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you can think of the Magic: the Gathering card I made up shown above? < 1473745902 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that {0} activation morphling? you didn't tell what it costs, the types and p/t < 1473745917 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you show the full card? < 1473745992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In fact, I think many of them are reprogrammable < 1473746278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, Squid (http://www.squid-cache.org/) does something like this, it looks like < 1473746312 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Look at Urza's Avenger and Jodah's Avenger; I intended to be similar to that, although such details could differ from those possibly. Those ones cost six mana to cast and are 4/4 < 1473746354 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Urza's Avenger < 1473746355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urza's Avenger \ 6 \ Artifact Creature -- Shapeshifter \ 4/4 \ {0}: Urza's Avenger gets -1/-1 and gains your choice of banding, flying, first strike, or trample until end of turn. (Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band. Bands are blocked as a group. If any creatures with banding you control are blocking or being bl < 1473746361 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Jodah's Avenger < 1473746362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jodah's Avenger \ 5U \ Creature -- Shapeshifter \ 4/4 \ {0}: Until end of turn, Jodah's Avenger gets -1/-1 and gains your choice of double strike, protection from red, vigilance, or shadow. (A creature with shadow can block or be blocked by only creatures with shadow.) \ PLC-U < 1473746855 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do you know if you think of what I wrote? < 1473746981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What would be the uses of fully-scriptable routers do you think? < 1473747070 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Program more versatile incoming and outgoing filters, logs, automatic dynamic DNS update, automatic time update, port knocking, etc. < 1473747120 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dynamic Wi-Fi passwords (if you have a wireless router), and perhaps even to alter which services are available depending which password is used. < 1473747174 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, sorry < 1473747194 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a router, I prefer low latency and high bandwidth of transferring data on the network over versatile filters < 1473747244 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although sometimes having more filters can be more useful especially if written in C or whatever instead of Python. < 1473747290 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program can be recompiled if you want to alter the filters. < 1473747302 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, routers shouldn't mess with filters. they should just transfer my data in the right route < 1473747330 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the filter is needed in order to decide what route, though. < 1473747371 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way. finding the right route is done by magic, not filters. < 1473747374 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :filters can't do that. < 1473747419 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then allow it to be reprogrammed by magic and then recompiled if the setting needs changed, instead of by filters. < 1473747632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ooooh < 1473747651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Then you use the low-latency high-bandwidth password < 1473747869 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473750145 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473750285 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473750418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1473752063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473753157 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473753412 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473753643 0 :danofthedeep!~danofthed@c-174-50-100-100.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473753672 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473757498 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5d21:d155:c9cf:d811 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473759105 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6q7wl5uwqwgtb.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473759295 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-okqtroosrxchawxj QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473759306 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ffhtbtbbpdgjnnnx JOIN :#esoteric < 1473759381 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473760523 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Verbalneurotik/status/756743574276956160 dafuq did i just watch < 1473761572 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473761613 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473761703 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473761725 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473762363 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473763038 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473765796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kenrube 5* 10New user account < 1473765878 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473766200 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473766217 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473766662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49717&oldid=49713 5* 03Kenrube 5* (+166) 10/* Introductions */ < 1473766686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Polyglot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49718&oldid=49118 5* 03Kenrube 5* (-44) 10 < 1473766998 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473769488 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473769642 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473771229 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1473773294 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473776733 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473777823 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5d21:d155:c9cf:d811 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473778309 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473778743 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473778991 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473779919 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473780910 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1473781258 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473781264 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473781454 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473781540 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-223-24-18-161.revip6.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473783011 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1473783024 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473783121 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473783151 0 :pelegreno_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473783221 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473783299 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473783932 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-223-24-18-161.revip6.asianet.co.th QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473784106 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473784618 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473784670 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473785517 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473786680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A new custom Magic: the Gathering card (cost, name, and type, currently unknown): Cast ~ only during your precombat main phase. ;; Creatures can't attack players. ;; Phasing < 1473788625 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:64d4:7f7b:2220:8775 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473789048 0 :FireFly!?@? NICK :EvilFly < 1473789773 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473789788 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:64d4:7f7b:2220:8775 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473790552 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473790597 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473791181 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does js even distiguish between when obj.member is not present versus present and set to null? < 1473791238 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1473791261 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if not present in the object or in its prototype chain, the value will be undefined, which is different from null. < 1473791319 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try: Object.keys({y:undefined,x:undefined,z:null}) < 1473791354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can always "undefined = null" < 1473791409 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, since "undefined" is not a keyword < 1473791462 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write void(0) instead < 1473791479 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can write (()=>{})() < 1473791489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is can you test whether obj has the member x? < 1473791503 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can test that! < 1473791527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what I'm doing makes sense then. < 1473791547 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the "in" operator, and you can use Object.keys < 1473791566 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a member being present as opposed to absent to signal the client ot do something < 1473791587 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if that member is null < 1473791613 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although the default value of a nonexistent property is undefined instead of null. < 1473791882 0 :EvilFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lua is the one that doesn't distinguish between the two < 1473791885 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, the "in" operator checks in the entire prototype chain and not just the object itself. You can use Object.getOwnPropertyDescriptor to check for the existence on only the object itself.) < 1473791903 0 :EvilFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(setting a member to nil is how you "delete" the member; they're intetionally not distinguishable from inside the language as far as I know) < 1473793775 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473794259 0 :EvilFly!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1473795385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473795531 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473796336 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473796381 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473796383 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473796388 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion[!] < 1473796457 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man the usa is turning into a giant basket of deplorable frogs < 1473796484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: why are you evil twh < 1473796496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the wolves howl) < 1473796508 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I felt evil for a while, but then it passed < 1473796530 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you a deplorable frog yet? < 1473796536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1473796545 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't an evil person also claim that it passed? < 1473796574 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/ < 1473796607 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hillary clinton's campaign now claims that pepe the frog is an official mascot of deplorable white supremacists < 1473796642 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it kinda is < 1473796644 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would any Person be evil? < 1473796691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly is a firefly, I think. < 1473796737 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glows
< 1473796739 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1473796751 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is mostly polymorphed into a grinning Cat.
< 1473796761 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: I believe few people consider themselves to be evil. < 1473796767 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: I can't beleive it's gotten to this point. us canadians should just invade, declare martial law, and feed americans tim hortons until they regain sanity < 1473796777 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: True. < 1473796785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i US Canadians < 1473796867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, like a UN intervention deal type thing < 1473796884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadians are good at that < 1473796900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is too big. < 1473796926 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473796928 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Canadians are all right next to the US border. Probably all wishing they could get in. < 1473796952 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, we're preparing for the invasion < 1473797012 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like as soon as the us governemnt fully collapses. < 1473797037 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're about, oh, frog percent collapsed right now < 1473797061 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many People cannot count, yes. < 1473797830 0 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473797839 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473797897 0 :pelegreno_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798107 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798111 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473798179 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :7IZAAJA7S!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dwdwfqfllnkkshmz JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6q7wl5uwqwgtb.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taijjlcweqkjrwmg JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :ineiros_!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798179 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798191 0 :pelegreno_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1473798202 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798202 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798202 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798202 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798202 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798202 0 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798202 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798202 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798212 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798212 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798212 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798212 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798212 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798214 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :feliks!JC7vwVmfaH@sabic.uberspace.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@bcdffda8.skybroadband.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :zemhill___!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798219 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798220 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798227 0 :7IZAAJA7S!?@? NICK :EvilFly < 1473798227 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a big netsplit < 1473798228 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/session QUIT :Changing host < 1473798228 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-arsyudhfyantakdq JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798228 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1473798228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there you are, lambdabot! < 1473798228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1473798228 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/session QUIT :Changing host < 1473798228 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-wtptqzrplrjgzyfh JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798229 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1473798229 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798238 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798248 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11d 20h 38m 23s ago: yes, yes (in nynorsk), neither (en:egg = no:egg) < 1473798248 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11d 20h 38m 4s ago: in fact i vaguely recall english borrowed it from us hth < 1473798248 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11d 19h 56m 36s ago: there's a bug so you cannot `revert a new file creation properly hth < 1473798250 0 :FreeFull!?@? NICK :Guest68061 < 1473798262 0 :pelegreno__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798275 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1473798275 0 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798286 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798423 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798467 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798721 0 :EvilFly!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1473798749 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1473798851 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1473798851 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nblyjjvrqpspqdft JOIN :#esoteric < 1473799013 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473799055 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473799056 0 :relrod_!?@? NICK :relrod < 1473799101 0 :Guest68061!~freefull@bcdffda8.skybroadband.com QUIT :Changing host < 1473799101 0 :Guest68061!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473799113 0 :Guest68061!?@? NICK :FreeFull < 1473799237 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473799921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So e := summ(0, inf, λ k -> 1/fact(k)) < 1473799968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a use for se := summ(0, inf, λ k -> 1/subfact(k))? < 1473800020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let's call it u (e is the 0th letter of euler; u is the 1th)) < 1473800051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, subfact(1) = 0, so it's undefined unless we drop 1) < 1473800106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll just say n/0 is 0 for now) < 1473800174 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bug < 1473800222 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1473800299 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently we don't have an entry for "bug". http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/70f188fce734/wisdom/bugbear is the closest one. < 1473800335 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxepxtofvojaegyn JOIN :#esoteric < 1473800587 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oecitbvespbopssh JOIN :#esoteric < 1473800741 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqlmkfnvbocbrrgy JOIN :#esoteric < 1473800765 0 :lynn!?@? NICK :Guest81040 < 1473801295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calculated; u ~= 2.6382270745053713 < 1473801351 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did shuf -n 10000000 -r /usr/share/dict/words > /tmp/src which takes my words file with ~100k words and produces a file with 10M words from it < 1473801385 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i wrote a program that reads a million lines and inserts them in a hash table, then loops over the remaining lines and searches them in that table < 1473801406 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does insert and search twice and compares my hash table with gcc's std::unordered_map < 1473801414 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/sQLCpu/raw this is the result < 1473801418 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's better? < 1473801621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any use for u? < 1473801651 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... not very nice < 1473801668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln(x) := log(x, e); ld(x) := log(x, u) < 1473801893 0 :Guest81040!?@? NICK :lynn < 1473801900 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqlmkfnvbocbrrgy QUIT :Changing host < 1473801900 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1473801900 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1473801900 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqlmkfnvbocbrrgy JOIN :#esoteric < 1473801901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(based on the assumption "ln" is short for "logarithm natural" ("natural logarithm" properly, probably translated from French where it would be french('logarithm')+' '+french('natural')), so "ld" is "logarithm deranged" or "deranged logarithm", because u is the deranged Euler constant) < 1473801901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :subfact? < 1473801918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Subfactorial; derangement < 1473801978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact(n) is the number of ways to arrange n objects, whereas subfact(n) is the number of ways to rearrange n objects (that already have a set order) such that no object is in the same place as in the starting order < 1473802006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. if you want to have students grade each others' tests, but you obviously don't want anyone to grade their own because they can cheat) < 1473802136 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let subfact n = fromIntegral (round (product [1..n] / exp 1)) in map subfact [0..10] < 1473802138 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0,1,2,9,44,265,1854,14833,133496,1334961] < 1473802158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That isn't right < 1473802161 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let subfact 0 = 1; subfact n = fromIntegral (round (product [1..n] / exp 1)) in map subfact [0..10] < 1473802164 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,0,1,2,9,44,265,1854,14833,133496,1334961] < 1473802182 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1473802192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fact n = product [1..n]; subfact 0 = 1; subfact n = fromIntegral (round (product [1..n] / exp 1)) in map subfact [0..10] < 1473802192 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Parse error: in < 1473802197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1473802199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fact n = product [1..n]; subfact 0 = 1; subfact n = fromIntegral (round (product [1..n] / exp 1)) < 1473802204 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1473802214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum [1/fact n | n <- [0..100]] < 1473802218 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.7182818284590455 < 1473802222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum [1/subfact n | n <- [0..100]] < 1473802224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Since e is equal to the sum of 1/fact(n) for n = 0 -> inf, u ("deranged euler constant") is the same but with subfactorial < 1473802224 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1473802231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum [1/subfact n | n <- [0..10]] < 1473802233 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1473802236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Remmber that subfact 1 = 0 < 1473802247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1? = infinity (or undefined) < 1473802356 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-uzprboedhqnzqkuf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473802534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473802574 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-wtptqzrplrjgzyfh QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473802601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1473802618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum [1/subfact n | n <- [0..20], n /= 1] < 1473802627 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1473802627 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1473802639 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know. < 1473802654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that I've started using my /query lambdabot window to keep a todo list. < 1473802661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I don't /msg lambdabot anymore. < 1473802984 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, where's HackEgo. < 1473802995 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to hide. < 1473803014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HideEgo < 1473803038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473803145 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473803600 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473804098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`snackego < 1473804100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:) < 1473804622 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6q7wl5uwqwgtb.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473805269 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while ago, there was someone using the emoticon :) which always used to freak me out. (If you filter out formatting codes, that may not make sense.) < 1473805304 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-uzprboedhqnzqkuf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805328 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-aevlmqkmxowdvifb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1473805365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1473805369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1473805370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1473805384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too subtle in this terminal. < 1473805408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1473805412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1473805421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::—) < 1473805424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::—) < 1473805428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's too spammy. < 1473805672 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-aevlmqkmxowdvifb QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805672 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxepxtofvojaegyn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805672 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805673 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805673 0 :feliks!JC7vwVmfaH@sabic.uberspace.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805673 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805673 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805673 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805673 0 :zemhill___!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805673 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805674 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805674 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1473805679 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@sirius.46b.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805679 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@sirius.46b.it QUIT :Changing host < 1473805679 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805681 0 :zemhill___!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805684 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805684 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1473805684 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805686 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805690 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805692 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805694 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-vwgsqnwralirdnwf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805697 0 :feliks!HmYAoESrAn@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805711 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805712 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473805821 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1473806080 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nyegzmigyvtvquvy JOIN :#esoteric < 1473806842 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473807856 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out my hash table uses about 30x as much space as std::unordered_map < 1473807876 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473808004 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473808113 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc39-094.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473808136 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473808507 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1473808627 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1473808861 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473808886 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc39-094.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473809619 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473810316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473812274 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1473813130 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473814109 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473814534 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473814590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473814776 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1473814996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why does the Vatican even HAVE an age of consent? < 1473815024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't it be, like, "age of the oldest living person, plus 1 day"? < 1473815044 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not all people living in the vatican are ordained priests hth < 1473815064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think they are < 1473815069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, people who can LIVE there < 1473815077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1473815172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope. "Women obtain Vatican City citizenship by marriage (as a baptized Catholic) to their husbands; however such citizenship "lasts only for the duration of their stay" in Vatican City." < 1473815186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, what? < 1473815211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why have actual citizenship that you lose when you leave the country when you can just have traditional visas? < 1473815211 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1473815216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the Herald Sun in March 2011, there were "only 32 female citizens" residing in the "smallest state in the world". < 1473815225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+"" < 1473815228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1473815236 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realized something < 1473815251 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :p-adic numbers are more limited than what i was thinking for 10's complement < 1473815289 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a field if i take a: Z->Z/10Z and represent real numbers as sum from -infty to infty of a(i)*10^i < 1473815299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: people who lose vatican citizenship automatically gain italian by default (and treaty) < 1473815300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To define what a "Country" is, your criteria has to include Vatican City: The Least Country-Like Country That's Still A Country and EXCLUDE the anti-Vatican City, Hong Kong: The Most Country-Like Country That Isn't A Country < 1473815310 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a field < 1473815310 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Interesting... < 1473815325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49721&oldid=49717 5* 03Kenrube 5* (-7) 10 < 1473815326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: There was a nice field near my old house < 1473815361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the only p-adic fields are the ones from p a prime hth < 1473815379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, you can easily find a zero divisor < 1473815390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in some countries in order to be legally defined as a new sex people must first undergo sterilization." < 1473815397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently that's controversial < 1473815462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also, p-adic numbers are not reals hth < 1473815470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Doesn't being transgender defeat the possibility of having children? Like, even if you're a trans man (female anatomy) who is ALSO gay, you probably aren't going to be planning on having children the usual way) < 1473815532 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473815560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the problem with defining multiplication when the number is infinite both ways is that the sum for each resulting digit also gets infinite. < 1473815592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it's only finite leftwards, each digit only gets a finite sum of possibilities. < 1473815614 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473815643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you considered asking these questions in a forum where people are actually interested in discussing them twh < 1473815680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Nope < 1473815692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1473815915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in particular, for any a,b where a is a 2-adic integer and b is a 5-adic integer, there is a unique 10-adic integer that is equal to a (mod 2^n) and equal to b (mod 5^n) for all n (using the chinese remainder theorem and taking limits) < 1473816010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you choose a1=0, b1/=0, a2/=0, b2=0, then the corresponding c1 and c2 become non-zero 10-adics with zero product. < 1473816029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought the p in p-adic stood for "pooch" tdnh < 1473816031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe i'm not telling you anything you don't know here) < 1473816073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( shachaf does not get to overuse the word "pooch" any longer ) < 1473816118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think many people who are interested in discussing those questions would be too irritated by the phrasing and implications of the way they're put to answer anyway hth < 1473816120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Race is a social ruler-and-compass construction" < 1473816208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get a twitter account and post your jokes there instead of here. < 1473816257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that is possible. < 1473816426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did. It got locked because I looked like a bot. < 1473816439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1473816503 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473816530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1473816598 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Being trans is orthogonal to getting medical treatment for being trans. *Additionally*, what those countries require includes destruction of any frozen sperm or eggs. < 1473816622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, that's overdoing it < 1473816644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, but my point is that if you ARE trans, you probably aren't going to go using the equipment for cisgendery things < 1473816659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're a trans-man, you probably aren't going to go around using your uterus < 1473816663 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likely, but why should the state mandate it? < 1473816670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I was getting there < 1473816671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, requiring that is stupid < 1473816677 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473816681 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my server died < 1473816700 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no because apache is alive < 1473816712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably makes clerical stuff easier (so you don't have to note that the mother is a man), but if your clerications are set up so you can't do that via compartmentalization, you're doing it wrong. < 1473816732 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but irc died, ssh is dead, cloudatcost's control panel is dead < 1473816777 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Additionally, it is *shockingly* difficult to get medical treatment for being trans in many different cases. And sterilization can be part of those medical treatments... < 1473816858 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And again, we are talking about legally enforcing a potentially-unnecessary medical treatment just to have your gender identity recognized. < 1473816862 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty shitty. < 1473817014 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't say just.. < 1473817260 0 :izalove!~izabera@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473817329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S ALIVE < 1473817474 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did nothing... < 1473817478 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still can't access it < 1473817503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll be fine as long as it doesn't start shouting BRAINS < 1473817579 0 :izalove!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS < 1473817581 0 :izalove!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAAAAINS < 1473817589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAA < 1473817599 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'd like to point out that when you say "Yes, but my point is that if you ARE trans, you probably aren't going to go using the equipment for cisgendery things" in reference to reproduction, it feels like you're forgetting non-straight relationships altogether < 1473817631 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's all I'll say about that. it's too late and this is a wrong venue for this conversation. < 1473817680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: No, I covered that earlier; it's just that even if you're a trans man AND gay, you probably aren't going to want to carry a baby because that's pretty much 100% womanly < 1473817680 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a time I created a Linux container with lxc and the hosts /dev devices all vanished < 1473817749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people can be trans-gender, can I be trans-race? < 1473817767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I could get the SJWs to support it, but only if I wasn't white as-is < 1473817791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("I /identify/ as Pakistani") < 1473817791 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures you had that agenda < 1473817801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: That just occurred to me now < 1473817809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't part of my agenda < 1473817833 0 :izalove!~izabera@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1473817833 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1473817872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, if trans people need to legally change their gender, I think that's already a sign of your society doing something wrong- the law incorporates gender into it. Unless it's just changing whether they say "Mr." or "Ms." on notices) < 1473817876 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You'd think that, but there are trans men who have actually gone off hormones in order to carry a baby. < 1473817888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Huh, that's interesting < 1473817892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a tiny bit bizarre < 1473817896 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are complicated. < 1473817900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(More so than transgenderism in general, that is) < 1473817908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, really? This changes everything! < 1473817914 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1473817916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the computational complexity of people? < 1473817922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(???) < 1473817984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(nermous) < 1473818072 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473818140 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473818148 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(1) < 1473818239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(1/0) < 1473818398 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-arsyudhfyantakdq QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473818408 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-iflfmvgqworpocis JOIN :#esoteric < 1473818508 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst complexity I've ever seen was Worst Sort < 1473818519 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is O(n!!!!!...) < 1473818528 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of factorials depend on the exact implementation < 1473818611 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1473818654 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a couple of factorials in something the other week, then wondered why n=154000 took so long < 1473819174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless your name actually is "Mr." or "Ms." then they should omit that < 1473819203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: bah factorials are insignificant compared to the power of ackermann. < 1473819239 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473819254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: now i'm wondering if there are any languages where any of those are names. < 1473819271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably without the period, anyway. < 1473819412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Mr. is the artist name of a japanese guy < 1473819562 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was onbviously not talking about p-adics < 1473819578 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know why you said so much about them < 1473819592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because you didn't have the dignity to stop me hth < 1473819607 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasnt able to. i was at work < 1473819620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i think the infinite sum for one digit thing i mentioned is what makes it break down to have it twosided. < 1473819636 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but abt the infinite sum thing: why is it a problem as long as the sums converge? < 1473819645 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473819680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do make them converge? especially in the reals. < 1473819711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do you < 1473819733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for general Z -> Z/10Z, there's no reason to expect them to. < 1473819741 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wouldnt they converge? as long as we assume that all finite numbers have an infinite string of 0s or 9s on the left... < 1473819809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but then you're basically just using a strange way of writing ordinary decimal. < 1473819845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gives a field (the reals), but not a unique representation. < 1473819858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strange for negatives, that is.) < 1473819943 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The infinite product 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*... converges in the 2-adics < 1473819968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to 0, even. < 1473820012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"§ (lower case: ſ) is the 19.5þ letter of ðe Eŋgliʃ alphabet" < 1473820134 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes a strange representation for ordinary decimal is exactly what i meant when the other day i said "10's complement" < 1473820149 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :one where addition works for subtraction < 1473820192 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fun bit is that ...999.999... is negative zero < 1473820199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OUCH < 1473820233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1473820248 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay technically it's just an alternative representation for zero, but it's more fun to call it negative zero) < 1473820285 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473820292 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably learn about p-adics < 1473820306 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's -1 + 1 < 1473820316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I prefer the vc-adics < 1473820320 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is a distinct negative zero < 1473820380 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the drug-adics < 1473820448 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the ackermann function grows faster than any primitive-recursive function < 1473820468 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And any stack of factorials is primitive-recursive < 1473821152 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473821621 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that 4^(4^4)cm is wider than the observable universe? < 1473821706 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^(x^x) goes 0, 1, 16, 7.6*10^12, wider than the observable universe < 1473822331 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473822990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 0^0 != 0 unless explicitly stated to be < 1473823024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that's 3^(3^3) presumably < 1473823198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: pft, TREE() grows much faster < 1473823841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3^(3^3) < 1473823844 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7625597484987 < 1473823904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "625597484987" < 1473823906 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12 < 1473823908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed < 1473824674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473826630 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp 3 < 1473826636 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20.085536923187668 < 1473826675 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4*(log (4^4)) / log 10 < 1473826680 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.632959861247397 < 1473826701 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :4^(4^4) is a 9 digit number then? < 1473826705 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather 10 digit < 1473826773 0 :izabera!~izabera@109.112.123.30 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1473826958 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4^(4^4) < 1473826965 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1340780792994259709957402499820584612747936582059239337772356144372176403007... < 1473826968 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no < 1473826975 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My calculation was clearly wrong =P < 1473826988 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log(4^(4^4)) / log 10 < 1473826995 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 154.12735777995834 < 1473826999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam < 1473827004 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1473827526 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rebooted my computer now my blutoth mouse is working < 1473827560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473827624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is blutoth such an unreliable thing < 1473827995 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473828076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473828302 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1473828323 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473828336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a tad unclear on the exact rules of ± < 1473828392 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473828396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :±1 is {-1, 1} < 1473828418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 5±2 is {3, 7} < 1473828428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then things start to break down < 1473828452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is (1±i)^2 {2i, -2i} or {2i, -2i, 1-i}? < 1473828500 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit < 1473828538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/1-i/2/ < 1473828552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2i = (i+1)^2, -2i = (i-1)^2, 2 = (1+i)(1-i)) < 1473828773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the former. < 1473828802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you just make it normal numbers, (2±3)^2 feels like it should be 5^2 = 25 or (-1)^2 = 1, but if you try it the fun way you get those two AND 13 < 1473828804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh < 1473828829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't get to expand ^2 like a macro when the content is multivalued. < 1473828833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Is there a fixed reason, or is it just because everything is nicer? < 1473828844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1473828891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So you have to solve&separate the inside first, THEN macronize it on each separate result? < 1473828899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a +- b = [a+b,a-b] in (^2) <$> (x +- y) < 1473828904 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(x + y) * (x + y),(x - y) * (x - y)] < 1473828913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473828924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a +- b = [a+b,a-b] in (*) <$> (x +- y) <*> (x +- y) < 1473828930 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(x + y) * (x + y),(x + y) * (x - y),(x - y) * (x + y),(x - y) * (x - y)] < 1473828978 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473829117 0 :izabera1!~izabera@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473829139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Argument of the day: If there's more than one ± (e.g. a±b±c) do you have to treat them all the same (so a+b+c OR a-b-c), or can they mix (So a+b+c, a+b-c, a-b+c, OR a-b-c) < 1473829255 0 :izabera1!~izabera@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1473829255 0 :izabera1!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1473829267 0 :izabera1!?@? NICK :izalove < 1473829355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: mixing is allowed. < 1473829367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK < 1473829391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about the thing where you use +- in one place and -+ in the other place < 1473829396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then WTF is ∓‽ < 1473829399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1473829402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to indicate that the same choice is used respectively in both < 1473829407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/WTF/WÐF/ < 1473829412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah hm < 1473829424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ok there's exceptions, darn < 1473829429 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473829443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:) < 1473829450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ∓ < 1473829451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2213 MINUS-OR-PLUS SIGN] < 1473829494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we're heading into "if you do this you get to explain your notation" territory. < 1473829513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreerjan < 1473829588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1473829597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreerjan^2 < 1473829669 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cm-58-10-238-206.revip7.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473829741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly envisions putting indices on the signs
< 1473829772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now write a monad for it hth < 1473829872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's also ⋇ btw < 1473829875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i don't think so. < 1473829878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Huh, that actually works < 1473829888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⋇ < 1473829890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+22C7 DIVISION TIMES] < 1473829906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1473829925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ж < 1473829951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a subscript after a ± or ∓ to link it to all others with that sign; all ±s with the same index are + and - at the same time, all ∓s with the same index are + and - at the same time and never the same as ±s with the same index < 1473829960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ж < 1473829963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0436 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHE] < 1473829984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but of course. although at this point multiplying by {-1,1} valued variables s_i is probably more standard. < 1473830022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yeah, but that's no fun < 1473830040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is there an operator set, like Sigma and Pi? < 1473830049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would give you the set of a bunch of things. < 1473830055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, and what if we need "only 2 out of these 3 can be + at once; the other has to be -, but it doesn't matter which 2 are +" < 1473830072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's just an alternative way to write set comprehensions. < 1473830076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1473830082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℝ is the set of real numbers < 1473830095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just use a big union sign and braces. < 1473830099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℝ^k is a k-dimensional space, because a set S to a power k means a k-tuple of items from S < 1473830126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presumably, all sets work like this, where multiplication of sets is just a tuple of the values- nothing more than Cartesian product) < 1473830139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i,i {}_{(i,j) \in {1,2,3} x {5,6,7}} { i+j } < 1473830152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k is, generally, a natural number < 1473830210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But are there definitions for k < 0 &| k ∉ ℕ? < 1473830222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ℝ < 1473830223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+211D DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL R] < 1473830240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Your font is terrible hth < 1473830284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wait, wðf does ðat notaʃon mean‽ < 1473830305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop being annoying. < 1473830306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric : < 1473830314 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1473830321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I do something? < 1473830329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's putty, it doesn't support using more than one font. < 1473830335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1473830366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf I'm sorry, though I'm not exactly sure what in particular I did. :( < 1473830370 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1473830389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can paste it into my browser and it shows fine. < 1473830443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: shachaf's irc client has even bigger problems with unicode than mine hth < 1473830449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1473830478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i don't know generalization for k < 0. < 1473830487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is ℝ^k defined for anything other than k ∈ ℕ < 1473830488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1473830500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anything for k ∉ ℕ? < 1473830521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend not using those fancy chars as i've already pointed out i cannot read them easily. < 1473830562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1473830571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything for k \nin |N? < 1473830574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but assuming you're asking about complexes, that seems as hard as negatives. < 1473830624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do infinite cardinals, obviously :) < 1473830652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, I mean like 2.5. Is there any generalization that /somehow/ supports something that looks like a 2.5-tuple? < 1473830698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know of. now if you were just asking about any set with that dimension, i'd point you to fractals. < 1473830703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Preserving the generic properties that doing types like this has; (S^n, S^m) is pretty much equivalent to S^(n+m) < 1473830707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1473830737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling no, but you never know < 1473830874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1473830930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, if you had a S = R^2.5, then the tuple (x,y) where x and y are in S would be a member of R^5 < 1473830943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they would, wouldn't they? < 1473830953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little bit like those fractional bits in TURKEY BOMB, i suspect - they don't really exist individually. < 1473831011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and trits) < 1473831046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I suppose R^(-1) (aka "anti-R" and typically written Я (the Cyrillic backwards-R, of course)) would basically be a quotient type of the Unit Type and the Reals (Quo[Unit,Real]) < 1473831068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I still don't really know WTF a quotient type is < 1473831077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotient types of singleton sets tend to still be singleton sets hth < 1473831088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quotients of < 1473831164 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need a set R^0.5 such that to specify a member of R, two members can be used. < 1473831165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm reminded about those people who said they could define a reversible computation system where the types were a field. but they never explained how they avoided the obvious contradictions, so they probably didn't. < 1473831237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? Including where we're assuming the singleton is the (pardon my arithmetic) numerator? < 1473831251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah, basically < 1473831267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(R^0.5, R^0.5) has to pretty much directly correspond with R < 1473831295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose I could make it... no, that won't work) < 1473831309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there were units, i think 1 may have been just the computation that makes input and output equal < 1473831325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q can be represented by (Z, W) ips < 1473831452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose (R^(-1), R) would have to be the unit type, and that doesn't seem right- if all else fails, you just always use the same value in the first place every time and the second place can be any real number, so the limit being 1 possibility seems impossible) < 1473831462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now come to think of it there may be an obvious way to cheat based on R being the same cardinality as R^2. it probably won't give something very nice. < 1473831495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, true < 1473831504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll still break for getting R^0 = R^a x R^(-a) < 1473831506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quotient type of R and R^2 or somesuch? < 1473831519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1473831545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :R^0 has to be the unit type (or empty tuple, or whatever. Are those all the same in whatever type theory we're using?) < 1473831576 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473831635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgello < 1473831648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i don't know all type theories. < 1473831655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I'm trying to figure out if -1-space is a reasonable thing < 1473831719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some kinds of dimension measures, there is _one_ reasonable -1-space, the empty set. < 1473831772 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473831845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. the measures where you define the dimension to be n if a space can be split up with subspaces of dimension n-1) < 1473832486 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473832893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I suppose negative time dimensions would be measured in hertz? < 1473833016 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473833090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the idea certainly does. < 1473833385 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1473833395 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473833396 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473836646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473837573 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473837849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :% is a stupid symbol < 1473837875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It basically indicates "Hey, the previous number is a proportion of a whole, not a count. Oh, and we multiplied it by 100 for no apparent reason at all" < 1473837943 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, that symbol indicates the following number is a job number, not a pid, and also, if this appears as the command, then there's an implicit fg command before it < 1473838049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I'm trying to remember if there's a way to express logarithms using exponentiation and division alone < 1473838061 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :% is obviously the division remainder operator < 1473838065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seemed to remember it being (1/b)**x, but then I realized that's stupid < 1473838069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes, it's that too. < 1473838110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: And log*_b(x) is the iterated logarithm remainder operator < 1473838196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(an easy way similar to how roots are x**(1/k)) < 1473838223 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Let's just regard % to mean "divided by 100". The population of the US is 318.9%%% < 1473838257 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, that was wrong < 1473838259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Isn't it usually multiplied? < 1473838277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Use antipercent (a mirrored percent sign) for that < 1473838279 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The population of the US %%% is 318.9 < 1473838281 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473838287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or just put a percent at the beginning) < 1473838292 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473838308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Do you know of an easy way to logarithmicate? < 1473838351 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473838375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also created the constant u (the Deranged Euler Constant) today < 1473838375 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473838386 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, log_b x = log_a x / log_a b < 1473838408 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you know the right constant to multiply by, you can do it roughly by counting digits < 1473838448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I've got that < 1473838462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is I want to do it simply < 1473838466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I might just import log) < 1473838491 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, simply in terms of what? < 1473838530 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no % is the modulo operator, duh < 1473838564 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish c++ had made % and ^ work the right way with floats < 1473838592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah, Cale said that < 1473838594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(roughly) < 1473838613 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say that :) < 1473838652 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithm#Arithmetic.E2.80.93geometric_mean_approximation -- this method might be good < 1473838659 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're implementing an algorithm < 1473838703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I just gave up and imported it < 1473838716 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping to avoid it as a dependency, but oh well < 1473838746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln(x) = log_e(x), lb(x) = log_2(x), lg(x) = log_10(x), ld(x) = log_u(x) < 1473838996 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1473839004 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know ld as log_2 < 1473839009 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is u? < 1473839050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ISO recommends lb for log_2 < 1473839062 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning what < 1473839064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure where that 'd' came from anyway...) < 1473839072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But u is the Deranged Euler Constant < 1473839072 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dualis < 1473839080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1473839104 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e is defined as (or at least can be calculated with) the sum of the reciprocals of all factorials from 0 to infinity < 1473839130 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the b in lb stands for? < 1473839131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u is the same, but with subfactorials instead (and we just ignore subfact(1) because that causes divide-by-zeroes) < 1473839135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 'binary' < 1473839153 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's horrible < 1473839164 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let agm x y = head [u | (u,v) <- iterate (\(u,v) -> ((u+v)/2, sqrt (u*v))) (x,y), abs (v - u) < 1e-10] < 1473839168 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1473839181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It's the only name Wikipedia even knows < 1473839187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_logarithm < 1473839362 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german entry has lb also listed as ld for logarithmus dualis < 1473839373 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi / (2 * agm 1 (2^^(2-16) / exp 1)) - 16 * log 2 < 1473839376 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0000000011791865 < 1473839404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ISO 80000 recommends base 2 is lb and base 10 is lg. If we're going to have an ld other than the Deranged Logarithm, ld should be base 10 and lg base 2 < 1473839444 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it kind of weird that log bases are even a thing. < 1473839470 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: they aren't. base e, base 2, and base 10 are the only useful ones. < 1473839470 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1473839477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Why? < 1473839479 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We usually don't bother giving special names or indices to scalar multiples of a function. < 1473839489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: sqrt(2) < 1473839516 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so it's weird for the bases to have special names, not the existence of the bases as such < 1473839530 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, even the bases are pretty weird < 1473839533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't think base 10 is even very useful outside of the fact that we all count that way < 1473839543 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1473839546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When not in computers, you can just drop the index entirely for roots for square roots) < 1473839551 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: it's useful for calculating in my hand because the numbers are in base 10 < 1473839551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: How? < 1473839555 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do have the same for roots < 1473839556 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, whenever you would have written log_10 x, you could have just done away with the concept of log bases altogether and written log x / log 10 < 1473839561 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really not so much worse < 1473839569 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know base 10 logarithms, not base e ones < 1473839569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I forget, how does one do log 10 in one's head? < 1473839593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: It's cleaner and less confusing < 1473839599 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: it does make the concept less understanding imho < 1473839615 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While equivalent, it's confusing < 1473839627 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1473839635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because defining log_b x as k s.t. b^k = x is understandable < 1473839641 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: you learn the exponential sequence 1, 1.25, 1.6, 2, 2.5, 3.15, 4, 5, 6.3, 7.9, 10 to compute approximate base 10 logarithms and exponentials, and you use them to compute approximate multiples of large numbers when you want to do approximate calculations < 1473839644 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do it all the time < 1473839645 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try explaining kids why you divide by the stuff you have as your basis < 1473839654 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defining it as however the hell base change works is impossible to understand < 1473839669 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: That works if you can define b^k appropriately, but how do you want to do that? :) < 1473839696 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually we define b^k as exp(k log b) < 1473839706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Tell them how exponents work, then tell them how it works if they're negative, then explain square roots, then general roots, then rational powers < 1473839718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/how exponents/how natural exponents/ < 1473839726 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does 2^sqrt(2) mean? < 1473839758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: If you want a meaningful representation, you just round it off as with all other irrational numbers < 1473839763 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very useful when I only want approximate magnitudes < 1473839766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Round it off and pretend it's a rational < 1473839792 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously if I want a more precise calculation, I use a computer < 1473839838 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, how do we know that rounding it off is okay at all? < 1473839857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same way you find the circumference of a circle given its diameter; you don't find an infinite series that yields the answer when completed, you just say pi is 3.14159, multiply by that, and say "close enough" with a little footnote < 1473839870 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we don't know how x^y is defined for irrational y in the first place, we can't justify any means of approximating it < 1473839990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: We hold off the actual proper definition for irrational y until they've taken some calculus < 1473840020 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I highly recommend not talking about logarithms at all until one has had some calculus. < 1473840062 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the highschools don't do that because they're big fans of confusing people and making them think they're "bad at math" by introducing things with circular definitions :) < 1473840091 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and leaving out all the content of mathematics, which is the proofs < 1473840103 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: no, we don't. we give one of the two definitions for exponentiating reals _before_ calculus, < 1473840120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That works too < 1473840121 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need some sort of limit < 1473840134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I'm not even in Calculus yet and I get logarithms fairly well. I couldn't tell you the exact rule for irrational powers, but otherwise I get it. < 1473840143 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you really want to scrape by, you can use the least upper bound property directly. < 1473840145 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1473840157 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473840159 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition where you extend exponentiation from rational exponents to real exponents such that it's monotonous in the exponent < 1473840196 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: How do you know that extension is unique? < 1473840219 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even without calculus, it's possible to prove that on rational exponents it's monotonous, so an extension exists, and with a bit more work, it's even possible to prove that the extension is unique < 1473840245 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: without calculus, you do stuff with inequations to effectively prove that it's continuous on rationals < 1473840261 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prove that way that the extension at any point is unique < 1473840286 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you just take it at faith at that point and prove it later after you've done some basic calculus, which is still not circular < 1473840287 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen a highschool introduce enough concepts to actually make the thing work. < 1473840309 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some presentations aren't circular, but just leave out details, those are the better ones < 1473840312 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I could recommend a good textbook, but all the good books at highschool level I know are in Hungarian < 1473840332 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure in some parts of the world, they do a better job than in the US and Canada < 1473840337 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much mathematics do you read in Hungarian? < 1473840340 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1473840349 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I won't recommend textbooks < 1473840397 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, schools in the US *seem* to like introducing logarithms quite quickly. I think this is for historical reasons, though. < 1473840401 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best way to do it, imo, is just to wait until you have the integral < 1473840409 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or power series < 1473840414 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one or the other will do well enough < 1473840424 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logarithms used to be a practical requirement for a lot of calculation, after all. < 1473840444 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's sort of a silly hold-over from the times when people actually used log tables < 1473840467 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that you also need to know that exponentiation is continuous to be able to define logarithms < 1473840469 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so you'd need some sort of hazy idea of what they were about in order to use them to multiply numbers faster < 1473840485 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's definitely needed, but it's still possible to just leave the proof for later in a high school < 1473840496 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: You need to know that the integral of a continuous function is continuous :) < 1473840509 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the integral of a positive function is monotone < 1473840509 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you didn't really get them, it was worth at least having the directly relevant properties shoved in your head. < 1473840515 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: no, the power series is the other definition, and you need to know both in any case, and prove them equivalent < 1473840527 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, depends on how you go about things < 1473840532 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: what integral? < 1473840541 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :integral from 1 to x of 1/t dt < 1473840559 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can take that as the definition of log x < 1473840567 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... yes, but I don't think that really helps you < 1473840567 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and work everything out from there < 1473840593 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a bunch of properties about integrals which get proven using the least upper bound property of the reals < 1473840598 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I don't really sure what all the possible ways are and which work and which don't, I just know one way I think it should be done, but whatever < 1473840644 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. that any nonempty set of real numbers which is bounded above has a least upper bound (or supremum) < 1473840716 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use that directly to define the logarithm, but you end up doing a lot of low level work to prove the rest of its properties then < 1473840745 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better to put that low level work toward proving some general facts about integrals, and then just use those < 1473840943 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473841424 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473841599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump said that, because Hillary insulted millions of decent Americans, she should either apologize or drop out. < 1473841600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1473842444 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473842522 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473842851 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473843050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to start using the ⸮ for sarcasm, but there's no inverted version for spanishization :( < 1473843665 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473844097 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it looks like it's more common for rhetorical questinos < 1473844099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*questions < 1473844133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⸮ < 1473844134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2E2E REVERSED QUESTION MARK] < 1473844425 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They probably couldn't tell whether to call it the REVERSED INVERTED QUESTION MARK or the INVERTED REVERSED QUESTION MARK, and therefore omitted it completely. < 1473844472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they just accidentally inverted its existence. < 1473844497 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :≟ is useful, should replace all other uses of = with it. Because you can just never be sure. < 1473844499 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think unicode omits any character just because they can't decide on a good name. they have tons of characters with bad official names. < 1473844516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ≟ < 1473844517 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+225F QUESTIONED EQUAL TO] < 1473844640 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ⁑ ⁂ < 1473844963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473845248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473846155 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473849101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473849119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to have a machine in the style of The Time Machine (one which makes you experience time differently) < 1473849187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would have to adjust your temporal speed (s/s). You'd likely have to adjust it continuously (rather than a clean jump), so you'd have to know how much your temporal speed can change in 1 second (presumably on your side)- how many s/s/s. This is, of course, s/s^2, or 1/s < 1473849200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefor, how good your time machine is is measured in Hertz < 1473849506 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473850214 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taijjlcweqkjrwmg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1473850351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473850389 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i am a floobicratican! we stand for more freedom unless it's not a freedom we like, in which case we refer to its restriction as patriotism" < 1473851299 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:912:4125:e1dd:a25c JOIN :#esoteric < 1473851307 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:912:4125:e1dd:a25c QUIT :Client Quit < 1473851797 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-vwgsqnwralirdnwf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473851824 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-clvmxriliczfkhpi JOIN :#esoteric < 1473852268 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473852268 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473852297 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bobadventureslist < 1473852298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bobadventureslist: not found < 1473852299 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`boblist < 1473852300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: boblist: not found < 1473852307 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever is it called? < 1473852311 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo bin/*list < 1473852313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/FireFlist bin/aglist bin/bardsworthlist bin/danddreclist bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist bin/dontaskdonttelllist bin/ehlist bin/emptylist bin/erflist bin/flist bin/idealist bin/ioccclist bin/keenlist bin/list bin/listlist bin/llist bin/makelist bin/makelistlist bin/minimalist bin/mlist bin/olist bin/pbflist bin/slist bin/smlist bin/stylist bin/testli < 1473852320 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473852321 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no list for that yet? < 1473852361 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473852655 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FireFlist < 1473852657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473852666 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473854917 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473856487 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473857747 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1473858459 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473858815 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473859553 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1473859997 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473861096 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473861713 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473861971 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dabbctkfsflclbpl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473862410 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473863544 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473863592 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473863676 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473866127 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473866785 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473867071 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473868327 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473868479 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.135 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473870014 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dabbctkfsflclbpl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1473871010 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473871259 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473871274 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473871305 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473871443 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473872284 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473872889 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, is the middle of septemeber hiring season or something? < 1473872919 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly four firms have emailed me in 24 hours < 1473873097 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I think it's to get fresh graduates < 1473873465 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a recent graduate < 1473873471 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*taneb < 1473873482 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've got a year left < 1473875199 0 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7spqqstaf13yo.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473875348 0 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7spqqstaf13yo.ip6.access.telenet.be PART #esoteric : < 1473876216 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473876603 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473876690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473877136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I've been wanting a letter for the Eŋgliʃ Reformed Alphabet that makes the english-equivalent 'ch' sound. I've been using 'ĉ/Ĉ' so far, but I just realized I could just use 'q/Q' )
< 1473877364 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1473877364 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1473879046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Many ſtores are named as a poſſeſſive- "Smith's". If a ſtore is named for a group ſharing a laſt name, it's "Smiths'". If you want to refer to more than one Smiths', you ſay "Smith's's" or ſomething weird like that.) < 1473879229 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, wasn't the convention to use 'ſs' for two consecutive ones? < 1473879289 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, I believe so, iirc that's where ß comes from < 1473879334 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473880825 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@129.22.1.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473881049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Was it? < 1473881070 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I thought ß was ſz and only allowed at the end of words < 1473881106 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1473881111 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not at the beginning < 1473881120 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :straße is pretty valid < 1473881136 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I seem to remember some kind of rule about having two 'ſ's in a row, but checking wikipedia it doesn't speak of that < 1473881155 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the convention was to put s on the start of a syllable and the other thing at the end < 1473881169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: It has the word "ſucceſsful" < 1473881169 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would've been stra|-se < 1473881203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Haviŋ boþ 'ſ' and "ʃ" iſ kind of confuſiŋ, as ðey look ſimilar in many fonts) < 1473881228 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, great < 1473881244 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia page 'ſ' redirects to 's', not 'long s' < 1473881401 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why use 'ſ', tho, you don't seem to be using it for any distinct phoneme? < 1473881437 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your approach seems to be mostly to do away with legacy complications, why reintroduce one that has already fallen out of use? < 1473881444 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473881463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473881669 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@129.22.1.19 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473881727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473882784 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473882791 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473882850 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473883143 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473883181 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473883208 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-otfcfmktfnohsyus JOIN :#esoteric < 1473883234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would the office of Copresident of the United States of America (POTUS*) be? < 1473883607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473883644 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that Alexander Hamilton lost the dual to establish it < 1473883701 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473883721 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473883807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lousy < 1473883807 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 14h 50m 41s ago: I'm sorry, though I'm not exactly sure what in particular I did. :( < 1473883865 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473883964 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473884325 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473884498 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-otfcfmktfnohsyus QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473884558 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xhvnyddaiwfovuas JOIN :#esoteric < 1473884780 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473884800 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473884807 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473884876 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if instead of just reforming english spelling, we just agreed to pronounce everything in a japanese accent and use katakana! < 1473884936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ｦｳﾄﾞ < 1473885090 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or skip the entire issue and write every word with a different character < 1473885108 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik QUIT :Quit: kilakit < 1473885439 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, you can't transliterate my name into Japanese characters < 1473885482 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hurrah for the voiceless dental fricative) < 1473885523 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1473885566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanepu < 1473885672 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ｱｲ ﾌｫｱ ﾜﾝ ﾗｲｸ ｼﾞｯｽ ｱｲﾃﾞｨｱ｡ ｲﾂ ｿ ｼﾝﾌﾟﾙ! < 1473885721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's a bu, never mind. < 1473885901 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it was "Nathan" I was referring to < 1473885939 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :half-width katakana, eh < 1473885943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's transliaterated from the hebrew which has no fricatives hth < 1473885960 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard way of transcribing the voiceless dental fricative would be with "s". < 1473885991 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just nickname Taneb 'Na', and call him Na-san < 1473886032 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473886132 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473886185 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473886361 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: So yeah. ﾈｲｻﾝ is a perfectly fine transcription. < 1473886428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikapooch < 1473886562 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :私haveも書ten英語と漢字為嘘s&笑s.It's楽. < 1473886603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have ten pooches. It's great." < 1473886643 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1473886692 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473886694 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that would be "私有十犬.It's大良." or some such. < 1473886712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Na-ten < 1473886739 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have ten pooches. < 1473886744 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am soon moving somewhere with three! < 1473886749 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be poochtastic. < 1473886946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three pooches in Colorado?! < 1473886962 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three pooches at the place I'm moving to *in* Colorado. < 1473886970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three pooches in Denver? < 1473886986 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three pooches in the house! < 1473887000 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except when they're outside. < 1473887016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are too good. < 1473887020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't even need to go outside. < 1473887039 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to cats that go outside often though. < 1473887043 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473887458 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473887728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any traditional, ſimple methods for graphing functions in 3-D? < 1473887737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I could implement myſelf? < 1473887768 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473887847 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this ſ thing an attempt to be as annoying as possible? < 1473887856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Yes hth < 1473887862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hðh < 1473887871 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's working fine < 1473887881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Alſo, I rebound my 's' key to 'ſ' by default < 1473887998 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473888186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473888357 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even correct < 1473888367 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :say 'pessimistic' < 1473888549 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473888566 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473889005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473889455 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473889481 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473889577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi < 1473889586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi veratin. Heratin. < 1473889598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's a default. OK. < 1473889622 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a random default. < 1473889623 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi < 1473889625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi laste. Haste. < 1473889636 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It comes from 'words'. < 1473889648 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's p. silly. < 1473889693 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello < 1473889694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, world < 1473889703 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, I defined that one < 1473889705 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello c < 1473889706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello world < 1473889713 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a hexadecimal number argument < 1473889824 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello world < 1473889825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1473889994 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xhvnyddaiwfovuas QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473890013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473890025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi hppavilion[1] < 1473890026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi hppavilion[1]. Havilion[1]. < 1473890030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooow < 1473890036 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's completely wrong < 1473890258 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bmvvjaqsnjylcqzb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473890534 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:c4fb:c647:3f86:9f23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473890656 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exact quote from DNC email: < 1473890826 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have been compromised! But it's all ok. Here is our new password: HHQTevgHQ@z&8b6. < 1473890901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can anyone be so stupid < 1473890925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Wait, really? < 1473891014 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, really! < 1473891120 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thae email was sent by Rachel Palermo (press secretary of the DNC) to RegionalPress@dnc.org which seems to be a mailing list < 1473891159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this happened twice! < 1473891197 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if hillary clinton's email server also renewed passwords using this ultra-secure method < 1473891282 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it didn;t happen twice, she had to resend the email because the password was wrong < 1473891301 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual password was HQTevgHQ@z&8b6 < 1473891307 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :note only one H < 1473891352 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously people should flood her linkedin and facebooks calling her a moron < 1473891364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1473891367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people should not do that < 1473891537 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "HQTevgHQ@z&8b6" still has two Hs. < 1473891556 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another crazy email: From: Manriquez, Pablo Subject: Password Needed for dncpress@dnc.org Text: Does anyone have it handy? Thank you! < 1473891579 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1473891627 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously what is with these people transferring passwords unencrypted over networks, neopets had better security than that < 1473891762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of their infrastructure at least went with sending password change links rather than actual passwords < 1473892037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I bet I could make worse security < 1473892039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Log in -> Forgot password -> Forgot email -> Enter new email -> Send password change link to new email < 1473892212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Her server wasn't hacked by 1337 Russian H4XX0ЯZ, it was hacked by a totally normal Russian with the most basic understanding of computers who just used Billary's biography to answer the password reset security questions. < 1473892337 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably < 1473892341 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473892363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is far too proud of the phrase "1337 Russian H4XX0Я"
< 1473892703 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 2d game where you're in a modern art museum and you have to steal a painting, but the museum changes its shape. there are one or more guardians and you lose if they see you < 1473892708 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoughts on this? < 1473892737 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guardians cannot see through walls but they may see through windows < 1473892790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473893019 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you make that 2d? with windows spanning from top to bottom? < 1473893068 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no just a view from the top < 1473893078 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows can just be represented as holes in walls i guess < 1473893104 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds a bit like hitman go < 1473893153 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :never played it < 1473893354 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trailer looks cool < 1473893420 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it called -go for pokemon go? < 1473893623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473893756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Catholic Confession would work better if it were distributed- instead of a confessional with a room for a priest and a room for a shamee (though traditional confessionals actually have two shamee rooms and a priest in the middle), two adjacent rooms where each serves as priest-like to the other; they trade confessions and penanceſ < 1473893947 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I believe it has the 'go' suffix just to denote "mobile". < 1473893959 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: It does predate Pokémon GO by much. < 1473893995 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh so pokemon go has that suffix because of hitman go < 1473894000 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for clarifying it fizzie < 1473894048 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to think of it like that. I have no idea who started it, but it's definitely not limited to those two games. < 1473894092 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The latest Pokémon GO update doesn't work on my phone. :/) < 1473894104 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you have root, then < 1473894127 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It's an Android "dev-keys" device, which counts as that. < 1473894193 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Aka an "userdebug" build.) < 1473894215 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter that much to me. the game is boring as hell < 1473894236 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like incrementing numbers, and it's got a lot of them to increment. < 1473894243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also walking around.) < 1473894286 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that it's quite boring, but for some reason walking around without having those numbers increment feels like waste of walking now. < 1473894301 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473894304 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :play ingress :p < 1473894309 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should use a fitness tracker or something instead. < 1473894348 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, there seems to be not a single really interesting ar game around < 1473894374 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think several of the critters are cute. < 1473894399 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bmvvjaqsnjylcqzb QUIT :Excess Flood < 1473894423 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dwarfs won't haul :/ < 1473894426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it'd have to alternate- with two rooms L, R each occupied by one c \in C (the congregation) at a time, the priest starts in one of the rooms (let's say he starts on the left (L); a priestess would start on the right (R)), the first Congregation member enters R, confesses, and is issued a penance. The priest exits. [ret] The next member enters L, confesses, and is issued a penance by the occupant of R. R exits. goto if < 1473894426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :empty(C). The next in line enters R, confesses, and the occupant of L issues a penance and leaves. goto [end] if empty(C). goto [ret]. [end] L and R both exit. Confession complete, everyone goes and fulfills their penance < 1473894473 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The holy C. < 1473894533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was originally going to make it so everyone pairs off- two people enter L and R, L confesses to R, R issues penance; R confesses to L, L issues penance, but then I realized that inevitably leads to L inflating penance if they feel R was unfair and R reducing penance so as not to be seen as such) < 1473894548 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iwcejbwahsvyuikb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473894549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, alternating loop-pairing is MUCH more entertaining) < 1473894817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If one wanted to remove the "I is capitalized because the speaker is the most important person on earth" thing from english (for some reason; maybe because it's just a little unnecessary?), would it be better to say 'I' should be lowercase or that all personal pronouns ({'I', 'You', 'He', 'She', 'They' (when singular, ...}) should be capitalized?) < 1473894824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? firefly < 1473894825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1473894842 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to replace it < 1473894848 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty boring factoid < 1473894883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Wait, are you named after the show or is the show named after you? < 1473894890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly sprø som selleri and chews ice. < 1473894912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It obviously can't be a coincidence, as #esoteric is the centrer of everything) < 1473894958 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: neither, as far as I know < 1473894964 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm named after the insect, thank you very much < 1473894970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473894984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you share a common name-source < 1473894990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget about that option < 1473895001 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :correlation, causation, etc etc < 1473895007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FøreFly < 1473895135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Centrer: The systematically and sarcastically annoying approach to settling the er/re divide, taking the ideas of both options and combining them badly in a way that removes the benefits of the American spelling and is somehow /worse/ than the sum of its parts) < 1473895252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AKA the aporgenic approach) < 1473895256 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473895258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? synergy < 1473895259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :synergy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473895413 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473895483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn synergy/Something is synergetic when it violates the Law of Conservation of Energy by managing to release more energy than is put in. A possible future Uncontrolled Synergy Scenario is a looming existential threat to humanity. < 1473895484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn synergy/Something is synergetic when it violates the Law of Conservation of Energy by managing to release more energy than is put in. A possible future Uncontrolled Synergy Scenario is a looming existential threat to humanity.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473895491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn synergy/Something is synergetic when it violates the Law of Conservation of Energy by managing to release more energy than is put in. A possible future Uncontrolled Synergy Scenario is a looming existential threat to humanity. < 1473895495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «synergy» < 1473895529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wisdom entry is pointless < 1473895537 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it on twitter < 1473895577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I feel it's appropriate for wisdom < 1473895603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel it's not. < 1473895660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's 140 characters too long. < 1473895685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then we shall consult an arbitrator. < 1473895737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is tradition, the challenger may choose the arbitrator from the pool of eligible arbitrators. < 1473896389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Roman numeral extension: I is for 1, J is for the denominator (the denominator is assumed to be 1 unless there are symbols overriding- VIII is 8/1 = 8, VIIJ is 8/1 = 8, VIIJJ is 8/2 = 4
< 1473896390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1473896492 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], what would XXX be < 1473896504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 30 < 1473896513 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 20/10 or 10/20 < 1473896514 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1473896516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that's an X < 1473896528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No, the X is only the numerator. < 1473896540 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you write 20/10 then < 1473896541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20/10 would be XXY. < 1473896545 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why Y < 1473896568 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would CD be < 1473896570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Because it's vaguely associated with X and isn't already taken. < 1473896572 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :400 or 100/100 < 1473896617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the 'letter after the normal numeral' thing is just a coincidence) < 1473896865 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473897574 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q) < 1473898213 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not how fractions in Roman numbers are work. < 1473898222 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :S means one half, and a dot means one twelvth, is how to do. < 1473898348 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473898385 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473898716 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-174-53-62-200.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473899082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l bin/don* < 1473899087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 111 Dec 9 2015 bin/dontaskdonttelllist \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 19 Dec 9 2015 bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist -> dontaskdonttelllist < 1473899229 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473899242 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-174-53-62-200.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473899370 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luhggjeilxdikjmc JOIN :#esoteric < 1473899440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : wikipedia page 'ſ' redirects to 's', not 'long s' <-- you could have said it was technical reasons, i was all ready to fix it... < 1473899464 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist < 1473899465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ c​o​p​p​r​o​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ < 1473899513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have forgotten about using that one... < 1473899522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mglukhov is pretty irritating < 1473899570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They added a bunch of links to their website and got warned not to spam. So instead they added a screenshot of a web browser with the URL bar showing their website's URL, purportedly as a diagram. < 1473899587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1473899619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something that a little cropping could fix. < 1473899634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mglukhov < 1473899646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cropping would be a funny way to fix it. < 1473899693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not sure their article contribution isn't contrived to justify the existence of the screenshot in the first place. < 1473899698 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://optioncreator.com/long-straddle is this the website? < 1473899711 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted to know if this http://optioncreator.com/long-straddle is the site they should be stop spamming < 1473899711 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that one. < 1473899719 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it's http://optioncreator.com/long-straddle < 1473899722 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1473899729 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope they'll stop spamming http://optioncreator.com/long-straddle < 1473899760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it you work there. < 1473899772 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't work at http://optioncreator.com/long-straddle < 1473899787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inconceivable < 1473899831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this person posted all sorts of spam < 1473899836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you seem to be obsessed with long straddles < 1473899848 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game got boring < 1473899861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was boring before you started < 1473899869 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for me! < 1473899884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess that it was negative-sum. < 1473899897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I wonder whether there's an easy anonymous way to report that spammer. < 1473899918 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make fake user -> report bad user -> delete fake user < 1473899940 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 3 is optional < 1473899943 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there'sa #wikipedia < 1473899959 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is as anonymous as your IRC connection < 1473900010 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-174-53-62-200.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473900076 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangle_(options) is pretty blatant. < 1473900144 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: obvEuslE, I is capitLIzd bEcuz I is u loG vWl! < 1473900151 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just noticed the new interface on github < 1473900158 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :open any profile < 1473900210 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-174-53-62-200.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1473900460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, still not responsive. < 1473900492 0 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473900507 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473900558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gift of the Magi is a little weak, because [spoiler alert] hair grows back < 1473900831 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473900840 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1473900840 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1473901084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow." < 1473901188 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's a crappy vow, try again" < 1473901242 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473901422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : people should not do that <-- shachaf++ < 1473901842 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:c4fb:c647:3f86:9f23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473901914 0 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473902001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:56:18 Maybe Catholic Confession would work better if it were distributed- [...] two adjacent rooms where each serves as priest-like to the other; they trade confessions and penanceſ <-- that won't work because ordinary people have not made a life vow to keep the priestly rules including confidence < 1473902022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, but if you break it you go to hell. < 1473902052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how would you be sure the other guy is even a catholic... < 1473902076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The priest pokes him with the catholic stick to make sure. < 1473902093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1473902159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[redacted snarky comment] < 1473902167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a thing, isn't it? < 1473902223 0 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1473902237 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the priest does not follow that rule then he is excommunicated, and therefore is not the priest. < 1473902543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: another problem is that ordinary catholics might not know all the rules for penance - iirc there are cases where you cannot get absolution without intervention from the vatican. < 1473902677 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1473902682 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Such as? < 1473902753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe i'm confused. < 1473902943 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473903841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh found it: "This is the case, for example, with unusually serious offenses, as some excommunicable offenses are reserved to the bishop or even to the Holy See, and their permission to grant absolution would first have to be obtained." < 1473903850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473903884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You noted both Hs! < 1473903893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He specifically said to note only one H. < 1473904009 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473904025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: previous sentence is "There are limited cases where portions of a confession may be revealed to others, but always with the penitent's permission and always without actually revealing the penitent's identity." < 1473904062 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473904070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrament_of_Penance < 1473904070 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, why'd I disconnect?) < 1473904083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: gremlins < 1473904090 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473904094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1473904094 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it you, peer? < 1473904105 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i get excommunicated < 1473904133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: it's a bit early to say whether is was peer. < 1473904158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, first you become a roman catholic... < 1473904167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like you get automatically excommunicated for desecration of the eucharist. < 1473904175 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are heretic (not all belief and stuff according to Roman Catholic) then you are implicitly excommunicated. < 1473904175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably not so hard. < 1473904203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473904210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I guess heresy is the easiest. < 1473904214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: nope, it was Ping this time. < 1473904218 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are baptized as Roman Catholic then that counts as being Roman Catholic even if you aren't < 1473904242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be very surprised to discover that I was baptized as Roman Catholic. < 1473904252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Ping is a Chinese HAXX0R who amuses himself by making people's IRC connections timeout. < 1473904255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ping': Ping is a Chinese HAXX0R who amuses himself by making people's IRC connections timeout. < 1473904284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? Ping is a duck. < 1473904302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.amazon.com/review/R2VDKZ4X1F992Q < 1473904360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473904367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ping//s/Chinese/Peking Duck/ < 1473904369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ping//Ping is a Peking Duck HAXX0R who amuses himself by making people's IRC connections timeout. < 1473904373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thx < 1473904375 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473904392 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ping seems to have a grudge against hppavilion[1] < 1473904411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it? < 1473904420 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just caused you to quit again < 1473904426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was [2] < 1473904431 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it looks like I'm juſt far away from my router < 1473904455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your long s is not helpful. < 1473904461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just disconnect for now < 1473904471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, Ping got them both < 1473904472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sorry, I try to remove them < 1473904489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alt+[long s] = s) < 1473904493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for you. < 1473904520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I think the fundamental theorem of calculus is pretty magical and other times I think it's pretty obvious. < 1473904549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would think I would have settled into one or the other by now. < 1473904549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ping//s/A/4/ < 1473904551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ping//Ping is a Peking Duck H4XX0R who amuses himself by making people's IRC connections timeout. < 1473904584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1473904585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1473904658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd peer//s#.#. his reviews are in high demand, but# < 1473904661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/peer//. his reviews are in high demand, buteer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1473904661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1473904663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1473904677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1473904679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd peer//s#\.#. his reviews are in high demand, but# < 1473904681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/peer//peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. his reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1473904707 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473904936 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473905006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whoa whoa whoa, the author of http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.golf/2002/07/msg1289.html is at aalto.fi < 1473905801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? synergy < 1473905801 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473905801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something is synergetic when it violates the Law of Conservation of Energy by managing to release more energy than is put in. A possible future Uncontrolled Synergy Scenario is a looming existential threat to humanity. < 1473905845 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473905912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd synergy//s/[^.]*/Synergy is when the whole is greater than the sum of its parts/ < 1473905915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/synergy//Synergy is when the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. A possible future Uncontrolled Synergy Scenario is a looming existential threat to humanity. < 1473905996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplrer is bettrer. < 1473906017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473906128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that makes the second part more true, i think. < 1473907466 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473907604 0 :GnosticShaman!~shaman@2601:582:8001:9ca0::7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473908230 0 :GnosticShaman!~shaman@2601:582:8001:9ca0::7 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1473908594 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473908845 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Client Quit < 1473909058 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473909451 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473910128 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncontrolled synergy scenario does sound like a good name for an unfriendly gai foom. < 1473910201 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1473910237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyone has started making gai jokes
< 1473910238 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :black swanergy < 1473910705 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473910785 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit i hate gui's whose buttons have incomprehensible symbols without tooltips < 1473910894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter in this case. < 1473910910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which button? < 1473911005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all four of the ones under the individual twits < 1473911031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have tooltips. < 1473911047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh? < 1473911070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in IE :( < 1473911151 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher client I wrote for Windows some time ago has icons without tooltips although you can disable the toolbar if you don't like it; keyboard can also be used. < 1473911710 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473911731 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1473913556 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1473914823 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473915048 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473915330 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473915723 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473917488 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473919950 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473921386 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473922386 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol IE < 1473922428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits myname with the saucepan ===\__/
< 1473922701 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473922749 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you punish me for being honest? < 1473922807 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Kevin Bacon were to write a math paper with Paul Erdős (it would obviously have to be on time travel), could you count link-by-math as a bacon number? < 1473922823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: no. < 1473922831 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I wrote a paper with someone who wrote a paper with someone who wrote a paper with someone who wrote a paper with Kevin Bacon" < 1473922907 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we could call that an Erdős|Bacon number (not to be confused with an Erdős-Bacon number) < 1473923001 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473923018 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Einstein's EBS is 11 < 1473923419 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's S? < 1473923441 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473923465 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :Guest41851 < 1473924633 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473926135 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1473926892 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luhggjeilxdikjmc QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473926988 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwdgnkxvqpgentmb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473927795 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473927955 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: are those actual passwords? not, like, jokes in the email? because I've said lots of random strings like Q4YSPlZZh or non-random strings like password12345 and said they were passwords for something, but that doesn't really make them passwords. < 1473928269 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren's font < 1473928270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\oren\'s font neoletters is http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm < 1473928332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1473929149 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for roman numerals, I wish we could get rid of them entirely. Alas, that is unrealistic, so we should get rid of the roman numerals from 24 and above, in the sense of not even teaching them in the school curriculum, and deprecate the roman numerals up to 23. < 1473930077 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-iflfmvgqworpocis QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473930295 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how much of a font wizard are you? can you make your font provide glyphs for characters composed of a combining accent, especially the accented vowels used in Russian? < 1473930316 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, those don't seem to have precomposed characters in unicode. < 1473930803 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I had one course taught by them. < 1473931019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's a p. good golf < 1473931442 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1473931444 0 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nwjirwmrqtxcovui JOIN :#esoteric < 1473931472 0 :heroux_!?@? NICK :heroux < 1473931610 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473932174 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473933966 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473934082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FuckbeEs14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49722&oldid=49710 5* 03Nosomebodies 5* (+136) 10 < 1473934297 0 :nosomebodies!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473934754 0 :nosomebodies!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1473935028 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1473935032 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome nosomebodies < 1473935033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nosomebodies: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1473935110 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473936690 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nwjirwmrqtxcovui QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473936700 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-elahhqipdoygrite JOIN :#esoteric < 1473937663 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Society is a platypus. < 1473937665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'society': Society is a platypus. < 1473938281 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, how so < 1473938306 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's a metaphor < 1473938411 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1473938564 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn society/Society's a platypus. < 1473938565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «society» < 1473938618 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's actually a line from a song from the TV series Phineas and Ferb, S2. It makes slightly more sense in context, but not much. < 1473938714 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473940247 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473941388 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473941459 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-elahhqipdoygrite QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1473941567 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473941879 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473942203 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tldahhkqtnpnnnsa JOIN :#esoteric < 1473944060 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473944622 0 :nosomebodies!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473944873 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473944914 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473944951 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:6555:77d5:63ca:f852 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473945023 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:6555:77d5:63ca:f852 QUIT :Changing host < 1473945023 0 :super_bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473945040 0 :super_bender!?@? NICK :bender < 1473945053 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473946966 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473947017 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473947134 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473947978 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473949942 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1473951453 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473951768 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473954418 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473954603 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473954687 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473955459 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473955508 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473955524 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1473956392 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1473956424 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473956434 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tip: dont welcome my bot :P < 1473956452 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1473956453 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im working on it, but for now, ill not bother with it in here until it has more functionality < 1473956464 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1473956465 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'import site' failed | 2 | < 1473956475 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :import site failed needs fixed :/ < 1473956807 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473956820 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473956855 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473956870 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473956891 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473956920 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473956942 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473956957 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473957008 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473957021 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473957050 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473957067 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473957552 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473957904 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473958155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binary combinatory logic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49723&oldid=45025 5* 03Nthern 5* (-39) 10Just because the phrase "Rewriting rules" appears in the semantics description, does NOT make this a String-rewriting paradigm language < 1473958299 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473958923 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473959728 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473960217 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473960324 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473960453 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1473960579 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473960802 0 :Guest41851!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu QUIT :Changing host < 1473960802 0 :Guest41851!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1473960805 0 :Guest41851!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1473961375 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473961443 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473961876 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473961977 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1473962406 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473962828 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473963086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473963335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1473963372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bacon Numbers are calculated through a method of finding the smallest link < 1473963381 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Kevin Bacon, somehow, has a Bacon Number of 0 < 1473963391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the process should be refined to account for /number/ of links < 1473963426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you have Bcn = k through p distinct chains, your bacon number should be smaller, and Kevin Bacons should be zero) < 1473963498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose that you find the minimum bacon number through /all/ distinct chains (count p), then multiply the resulting number by (m-p)/m, where m is the number of movies Kevin Bacon is credited in < 1473963518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since all movies with Kevin Bacon also star Kevin Bacon, m-p = 0, and therefor Kevin Bacon's bacon number is 0 < 1473963642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(two chains are distinct if the sets of all people that aren't Kevin Bacon or the Target in each chain are disjoint) < 1473963653 0 :Khali!~Thunderbi@mon75-11-82-242-95-55.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473963715 0 :Khali!~Thunderbi@mon75-11-82-242-95-55.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Khali < 1473963741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, but this means that someone who has never been in a film with Kevin Bacon can have a number of 0, or that some non-baconic individual who has costarred with Kevin Bacon in every film he was in has a bacon number of 0... shit...) < 1473964088 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473964345 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473964402 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473964444 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473965367 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1473965545 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473965578 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1052 < 1473965579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1052: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1473965624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a new autogram, one which can be /translated/ < 1473965627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This sentence contains letters." < 1473965679 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a non-alphabetical writing system? < 1473965843 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1473965844 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'import site' failed | 2 | < 1473965846 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1473965852 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait darn < 1473966148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Replace "letters" with whatever that language uses < 1473966158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This sentence contains pictographs" < 1473966395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473966401 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:61be:8459:d58e:2871 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473966885 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473967136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473967438 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473967523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473967830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1473967867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1473967956 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473968772 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~> echo hello < 1473968773 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1473968994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adoption is weird... < 1473969036 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My little sister (let's call her samsung[2]) is adopted < 1473969045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we're constantly forgetting we can't apply genetics to her < 1473969072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think at one point I said she'll probably need glasses because both of our parents did with a completely straight face < 1473969107 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we don't even have an excuse to forget that that doesn't work (e.g. she looks like she could be genetically related), because she's /Chinese/ < 1473969142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ftr: I do consider her actually my sister, but when talking genetics it would just be wrong to keep that consideration) < 1473969210 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1473969385 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: meh, eye acucity problems are so frequent these days that it's quite correct to say to any child that he might need glasses some day, and to send them on ophtalmological control exams occasionally, regardless their genetics. < 1473969418 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as a bonus, that also tests for some other eye problems not related to acute vision < 1473969453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coordination of the two eyes together and color vision problems being the most frequent < 1473969456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473969468 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:61be:8459:d58e:2871 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473969592 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the genetics does matter for some conditions, but it's not all < 1473970396 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to book an eyetest... < 1473970406 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since I've had one, and I lost my glasses < 1473970583 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought that eye exams were "scheduled" while shows and vacations are "booked" < 1473970628 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I book one when I notice my glasses not working as well as they did a while ago < 1473970636 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, booking something and scheduling something have different semantics to me < 1473970648 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, to me they are similar < 1473970656 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do please demonstrate < 1473970658 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if you schedule something, it's all parties marking the dates in the calendar < 1473970682 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I can schedule my holiday to be in April but I haven't decided where I'll go < 1473970686 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which is how eye exams work < 1473970703 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to book an appointment, which will then be scheduled < 1473970724 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booking is more asking for the use of a service to be scheduled < 1473970727 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't schedule an appointment that will then be booked < 1473970728 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they're related < 1473970744 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But definitely distinct < 1473970745 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1473970764 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I was an optician planning when I wanted to work, but it's still an awkward sentence to me < 1473970871 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone in the u.s. schedules eye exams. you call and talk to someone and you write it down together. or you talk to someone before you leave from the last one and they email you when it's coming up < 1473970914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never went for my follow-up appointment. < 1473971228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently do not need an eye test scheduled. Unless there's an unforseen problem, I'll probably only book a meeting with my ophtalmologist following a meeting with my optometrician in 2017 spring. < 1473972033 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473972342 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new eyes have demonstrated no problems in the last 6 months. i had an exam in june, and then the opthalmologist moved to CA. i have another free one i can take ... soon. < 1473972362 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new eyes? < 1473972392 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got laser eyes installed in march < 1473972412 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1473972774 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473972790 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473972832 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473972847 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473972864 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473972881 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473972921 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone give me a 2 to 4 char something thats invalid in sed < 1473972931 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1473972997 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: pk < 1473973027 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1473973032 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, two to four < 1473973033 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1473973038 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@? < 1473973115 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>regex @ /\/ abc < 1473973116 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `@' | < 1473973130 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>regex s/@/ /g /\/ abc@@ < 1473973131 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unknown option to `s' | < 1473973139 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>regex s/\@/ /g /\/ abc@@ < 1473973139 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 10: unknown option to `s' | < 1473973163 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1473973166 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a semicolon instead of a space for gnu sed < 1473973173 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: ^ < 1473973180 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>regex s/\@/;/g /\/ abc@@ < 1473973180 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 10: unknown option to `s' | < 1473973184 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>regex s/@/;/g /\/ abc@@ < 1473973184 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unknown option to `s' | < 1473973186 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, the other space < 1473973191 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one between commands < 1473973200 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\/ is the breaker < 1473973206 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seperates text and cmd < 1473973210 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sed, you separate commands with a line feed normally, but gnu sed also allows a semicolon, which is a very useful extension < 1473973293 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473973310 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473973333 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>regex s/@/ /g;/\/ abc@@ < 1473973340 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed s/@/ /g;/\/ abc@@ < 1473973341 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 17: unterminated address regex | < 1473973349 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed s/@/ /g; /\/ abc@@ < 1473973349 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 18: unterminated address regex | < 1473973357 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed s/\@/ /g;/\/ abc@@ < 1473973358 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 18: unterminated address regex | < 1473973365 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1473973373 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1473973432 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 'ahello, world' < 1473973439 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed '0ahello, world' /dev/null < 1473973440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 2: invalid usage of line address 0 < 1473973448 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed '1ahello, world' /dev/null < 1473973449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473973452 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed '0ahello, world' /dev/null < 1473973452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 2: invalid usage of line address 0 < 1473973463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473973470 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? why would 0 be an invalid address for the a command? < 1473973473 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473973479 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed '0ahello, world' <<<$'one\ntwo\nthree' < 1473973480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 2: invalid usage of line address 0 < 1473973485 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed '1ahello, world' <<<$'one\ntwo\nthree' < 1473973486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one \ hello, world \ two \ three < 1473973487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49724&oldid=49647 5* 03Beta-Decay 5* (-17) 10 < 1473973555 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, sed is dumb, just use perl < 1473973579 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1473973585 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill look into a sandbox for that :P < 1473973595 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kobalt is not just running in here :P < 1473973631 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~> sed 0s//hello, world/ < 1473973651 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 0s//hello, world/ /\/ < 1473973651 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 2: invalid usage of line address 0 | < 1473973656 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s//hello, world/ /\/ < 1473973656 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 19: unknown option to `s' | < 1473973662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s//hello, world/; /\/k < 1473973662 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 23: unterminated address regex | < 1473973676 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing was wrong < 1473973681 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s//hello, world/;/\/k < 1473973682 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 22: unterminated address regex | < 1473973682 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i unconsiously swapped it < 1473973688 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its \/\ thats the seperator < 1473973705 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? that's even worse < 1473973713 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, well, not really worse < 1473973718 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but equally bad < 1473973723 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a better one? (= < 1473973738 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try something that can't appear at the start of a sed command? < 1473973744 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how about ;; < 1473973762 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1473973762 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s//hello, world/;\/\k < 1473973763 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression | < 1473973766 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s//hello, world/\/\k < 1473973766 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll work < 1473973767 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression | < 1473973769 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :leme change it < 1473973776 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s/^/hello, world/\/\k < 1473973776 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, worldk < 1473973784 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473973800 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473973803 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now its ;; < 1473973807 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s//hello, world/;; < 1473973826 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nothing* < 1473973844 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s//hello, world/;;k < 1473973845 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression | < 1473973850 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s/^/hello, world/;;k < 1473973850 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, worldk < 1473973958 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s/^/df/;e;;k < 1473973959 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: 1: dfk: not found | < 1473973964 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s/.*/df/;e;;k < 1473973965 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on | none 2234668 348268 1751284 17% / | tmpfs 26797776 0 26797776 0% /dev | shm 65536 0 65536 0% /dev/shm | tmpfs 26797776 0 26797776 0% /sys/fs/cgroup | /dev/mapper/volg1-lvdata 1496439344 1085952040 410470920 73% /mnt < 1473973973 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed 1s/.*/mount/;e;;k < 1473973973 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on / type aufs (rw,relatime,si=a03d3f5c2963886,dio,dirperm1) | proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) | tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=755) | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=666) | shm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=65536k) | mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) | sysfs on /sys type sysfs < 1473973974 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on /sys/fs/cgroup type < 1473974049 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1473974056 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a exploit. < 1473974062 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this is called directly, now shell < 1473974064 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1473974070 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473974077 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1473974094 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: pls explain < 1473974111 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: sed can invoke the shell < 1473974116 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1473974118 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1473974129 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*runs off to make a custom compiled version < 1473974131 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1473974153 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>sed e;;curl http://dpaste.com/1NZ0K16.txt < 1473974170 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>ping hi < 1473974170 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed bot. < 1473974182 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1473974184 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not booting it until im done with this or i fail and remove it < 1473974254 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have a link to the src? < 1473974261 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, come on, sed has commands to write to arbitrary files. You practically don't even need the shell command for it to be unsafe on uncontrolled commands, because you can write to ~/.bashrc or some other trusted file < 1473974272 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: which version? GNU sed? < 1473974275 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU < 1473974282 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to go on a purgefest < 1473974286 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a moment < 1473974308 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthx < 1473974314 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/sed/sed-4.2.2.tar.gz probably < 1473974365 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see mirror list of ftp.gnu.org at www.gnu.org/order/ftp.html in case you want to download lots of stuff from there, which isn't the case for sed) < 1473974382 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.gnu.org/software/sed/ is the homepage < 1473975566 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473975721 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473976048 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473977167 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473977393 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473977439 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473978686 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: whats the command to run commands? < 1473978705 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1473978995 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1473979460 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in pokemon games, potion restores 20 hp and fresh water restores 50 < 1473979462 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1473979576 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqlmkfnvbocbrrgy QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473979576 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nblyjjvrqpspqdft QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473979576 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473979602 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473979602 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473979602 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473979629 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473979632 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1473979738 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1473979852 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1473979853 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luhmkilguxdqgvlm JOIN :#esoteric < 1473979916 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473979927 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473979933 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1473980057 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-noykfxzhmxvhntwh JOIN :#esoteric < 1473980080 0 :lynn!?@? NICK :Guest42838 < 1473980260 0 :Guest42838!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-noykfxzhmxvhntwh QUIT :Client Quit < 1473980547 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1473980781 0 :Guest42838!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eptkxkgdmdbrspkb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473980806 0 :Guest42838!?@? NICK :lynn < 1473980816 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eptkxkgdmdbrspkb QUIT :Changing host < 1473980816 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1473980816 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1473980816 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eptkxkgdmdbrspkb JOIN :#esoteric < 1473981536 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473981756 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1473981787 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bibimbap" is a funny word. < 1473982034 0 :jones_mcdolovan!~yaaic@p4FD4E1E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1473982057 0 :jones_mcdolovan!~yaaic@p4FD4E1E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org < 1473982247 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of that but haven't tried it yet < 1473982311 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like a bi-map but with an extra bi-directionality? < 1473982578 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it didn't have that third 'b', sure. < 1473982583 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it is, it's a Korean dish. < 1473982601 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We went to http://bibimbapsoho.co.uk/ today.) < 1473982615 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1473982618 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bibimbap < 1473982619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bibimbap? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1473982698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There's this Korean food place right next to Google MTV. But it looks like it doesn't have bibimbap. < 1473982730 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1473982741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1473982751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to mention https://www.yelp.com/biz/ginseng-bbq-and-tofu-house-mountain-view-2 but apparently it's closed. < 1473982780 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've probably walked past that place. < 1473982826 0 :heroux_!sandroco@507081C4.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1473982829 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: As far as I can tell, it's now http://www.grillstory.com/ < 1473982840 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Grill Story (formerly Ginseng) serves the best Korean BBQ at the table grill." < 1473982856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, so it's still a similar place. < 1473982862 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also do have bibimbap in the to-go menu. < 1473982875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the spellcheck underlines in http://www.grillstory.com/menu.html < 1473982896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I ate there was the mushroom tofu stew, I think. < 1473982898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it was good. < 1473982920 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize you can get the regular menu by clicking on "menu", I thought only the menus in the drop-down menu are things. < 1473982920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google bim bam bom < 1473982921 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcv2x2Vh5Mo < 1473982961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the "togo" menu doesn't have the underlines. < 1473982994 0 :heroux_!sandroco@507081C4.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473982997 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still in images, but they found out how to turn off spell checking. < 1473983024 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tldahhkqtnpnnnsa QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1473983121 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-evrtmpglxhzgalbw JOIN :#esoteric < 1473983215 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I ate at an "Asian Box" in Mountain View.) < 1473983446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Castro? < 1473983475 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473983766 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1473983928 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473984651 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473984832 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bibimbap is pretty tasty. < 1473984867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google bim bam bom hebrew < 1473984868 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lLGmRj3_MA < 1473985137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473985405 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1473985576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473985618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( What's the opposite of red tape?
< 1473985630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( +) )
< 1473986157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the "Europe and Asia or Eurasia" debate should be settled by saying Eurasia is a continent, but having a separate term describing a cultural mass < 1473986188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Europe is separate from Asia in this system, and so are the Middle East and India) < 1473986232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asia is a continent, and Europe is a peninsula. < 1473986260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then where's the UK? < 1473986276 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A kingdom. < 1473986299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, no it isn't, the called "Europe" is clearly more than a peninsula < 1473986373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a bizarre model that is still taught in some places (most notably France, Italy, and Spain) that claims there are 6 continents) < 1473986392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are: Europe, Asia, Australia, Antarctica, Africa, and America) < 1473986407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you have read wikipedia's article on Continent, right? < 1473986416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm in it right now < 1473986422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures. < 1473986434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why? < 1473986501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say _i_ had read it hth < 1473986519 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473986565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders if he should think before speaking
< 1473986586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh that is boring. otth... < 1473986596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otuh < 1473986680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otooh... < 1473986703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if we have a separate term describing cultural mass, where does that put russia and some of its neighbors? < 1473986740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could compromise and say europe is a pencontinent < 1473986745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Either in Europe (a name which will be adopted as distinct from Eurasia) or split between Europe and Asia, depending on how Russia works < 1473986772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually understand russia < 1473986801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Let social purpose hang itself unhindered! No- I mean, literature can replace, can actually become… Russia!” < 1473986806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the quote I was looking for. < 1473986810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm thinking that russia might need to be a third one < 1473986814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't find the one I was looking for on that page. < 1473986821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps < 1473986827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're certainly acting like they're trying to be < 1473986833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(third? Won't there be, like, 10?) < 1473986841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asia is the parts of the former Asia that aren't India or Stanic < 1473986857 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i mean beyond asia and europe. although of course asia needs further breakup. < 1473986861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473986887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Africa is divided around the middle (apparently) and Brazil is separate from the rest of South America < 1473986892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stanic ... does that include _all_ the muslim countries in the middle? < 1473986900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, just the middle east < 1473986907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aren't counting Russia as part of Asia? < 1473986909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or anywhere like it < 1473986916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oerjan recommends I don't < 1473986923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking to oerjan. < 1473986927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the middle east isn't the part that has countries named -stan < 1473986934 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Hn1rPQouU 100% accurate < 1473986974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm speaking about hppavilion[1]'s cultural division idea. russia is certainly not asian, and probably not european by that measure. < 1473986980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We must be careful though; Scandinavia is still in Europe, but further divisions will separate it (except finland)) < 1473986983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, huh < 1473987018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's not the quote I was looking for. <-- i believe you. < 1473987024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the Middle East is its own area (and probably includes Egypt, honestly) separate from the main Asia (which also excludes India) < 1473987058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make such a good racist... < 1473987071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, I'm not. :( < 1473987250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A radical Muslim would be referred to as an "orthodox muslim"; when talking about countries allowing certain Muslimy traditions (to any extent; Sharia Law is implied as the endpoint, but just letting them leave their classes to pray 2-3 times a day (depending on when the rules say they must and the school schedule) will be referred to as "[country name]-stan"- e.g. Americastan, Francestan, Germanystan, United Kingdom of Great Britain < 1473987250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Northern Irelandstan) < 1473988084 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Never mind that permitting such prayers would probably fall more under 1st amendment rights than anything else (... in the US) < 1473988090 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, y'know. Racism. < 1473988629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Is it possible to make a Cesar Cipher with a non-integer key? )
< 1473988661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5 = 5/2. You alternate between a shift of 2 and a shift of 3, I guess. < 1473988840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, atbash('holy') = 'slob' < 1473988871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, atbash('wizard') = 'draziw' < 1473988880 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the best thing ever < 1473988921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1473989141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps the process should be refined to account for /number/ of links <-- iirc that's been done for erdős < 1473989161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh < 1473989163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 1/n. but only for the first step. < 1473989252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It should account for how many papers have been written by him- sure, erdős is dead /now/ (for now), but if you apply the erdős distancing function ő(a, b), a and b might both still be alive < 1473989507 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, my dwarfs can now cut down trees, collect resulting wood and make barrels in workshops < 1473989728 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can they love < 1473989743 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i forgot what skill is connected with actually build workshops in df < 1473989747 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1473990152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: No, myname isn't running the nightlies < 1473990177 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1473990217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such thing as cryptographic steganography? Where you encrypt two messages into one, in such a way that message A can be broken in a way that looks real, but message B (which is slightly harder to break) is a separate message discretely encoded into message A? < 1473990232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could do it with case or something... < 1473990309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only if it isn't on a computer; if the person who breaks it would have to be doing it by hand < 1473990378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encrypt your main message using Caesar #2, capitalize and decapitalize the letters in output to encode your secreter message in quintets (caps = 1, uncaps = 0) < 1473990416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better, switch between typographic variants while doing this. single-story a = 0, double-story = 1 < 1473990485 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: my only real take at steganography is http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=877696 < 1473990495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473990564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oooh, or obsolete-cypher cypher; Vingere a long mess of garbage using the message, and the other person breaks it the usual way, discards the message and just reads the key) < 1473990986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed '1itest' /dev/null < 1473990988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473990998 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1473991001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1473991004 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you expect? < 1473991015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: who are you talking to < 1473991018 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1473991055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: i was looking at wob_jonas's experiments in the log, and wondering if sed provides at _all_ any way of adding something to an empty file < 1473991097 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-clvmxriliczfkhpi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473991116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that you cannot apply any command if there isn't an already existing line for it to act on < 1473991128 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1473991162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is rather stupid if you wanted to, say, unconditionally add a prefix < 1473991236 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it does, yes. try the i command for that. < 1473991246 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not... wait < 1473991258 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me read the manual < 1473991329 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjna: dunno, maybe it doesn't < 1473991501 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 'itest' <<
< 1473994185 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you photograph a pooch while you're away < 1473994188 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473994197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, for at least two reasons. < 1473994225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the reasons < 1473994229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, three < 1473994277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elaborate < 1473994285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) i don't have a camera (2) there aren't any pooches around at this time (3) it would be too dark... oh wait, flash. i don't have a flash either. < 1473994303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pooches? < 1473994304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1473994317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :point (3) applies even for the inconvenient option of bringing my laptop outside < 1473994319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go outside and knock on some doors until you find someone with a pooch < 1473994355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :many phones have built-in cameras nowadays < 1473994358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you have one of those < 1473994369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so. i worked too hard on making my next door neighbors care enough to keep theirs silent hth < 1473994374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1473994445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this? why do you need to photograph a pooch? < 1473994455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask shachaf < 1473994462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while i'm getting food < 1473994487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what food are you getting < 1473994765 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473994775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1473994822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'vacc-' is latin for 'cow' < 1473994830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"consider a spherical cow in a vacuum" < 1473994864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, 'vac-' is Latin for "empty", but that's probably unrelated) < 1473994885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :svacc < 1473995406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bread < 1473995439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you saying his argument is weak (svak in norwegian) < 1473995448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying it's scow < 1473995464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1473995465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sku < 1473995470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1473995471 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp. < 1473995767 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1473995768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! < 1473995778 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Elronnd < 1473995779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd desperately wants this entry to say something. < 1473995788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits Elronnd < 1473995791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473995793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1473995796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits elronnd < 1473995798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan Elronnd oerjan Elronnd Elronnd < 1473995807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg elronnd < 1473995809 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-01-11 learn Elronnd desperately wants this entry to say something. \ 2016-01-08 learn Elronnd ... \ 2015-12-20 ` rm wisdom/{elronnd,b_jonas} \ 2015-12-19 learn Elronnd *definitely* esoteric \ 2015-12-19 learn Elronnd *Definitely* esoteric < 1473995820 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainwords Elronnd < 1473995822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Elronnd < 1473995831 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainwords HackEgo you done a good job < 1473995832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06HackEgo 13you 04done 07a 08good 09job < 1473996377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : in pokemon games, potion restores 20 hp and fresh water restores 50 <-- obviously their medicine is based on homeopathy hth < 1473996397 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :still mad at you < 1473996413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION offers icecream
< 1473996418 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1473996424 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1473996427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please, what kind of ice cream are you offering < 1473996429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get it < 1473996443 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: step 1: be mad at oerjan < 1473996450 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is too good < 1473996458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1473996463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dark chocolate < 1473996471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1473996477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like chocolate ice cream < 1473996483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't really like dark chocolate < 1473996483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1473996494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1473996495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My token non-binary lesbian friend is currently playing Pokemon and was asking me what e should do. I know nothing at all about pokemon. < 1473996497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really are evil < 1473996498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1473996499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious helpful œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1473996502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives shachaf a pistacchio one
< 1473996511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please, where can i get it < 1473996526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-c < 1473996554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#helpful œ#4evil o# < 1473996557 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil overlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1473996583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny < 1473996768 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473996841 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473996865 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :Guest13447 < 1473997962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473998121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't know if diplom-is delivers to california, alas < 1473998171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can you find out? < 1473998234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course you haven't noticed my evil scheme yet...) < 1473998299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which scheme? < 1473998341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that the pistachio is covered in dark chocolate hth https://www.diplom-is.no/produkter/royal-pistasj1 < 1473998398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473998405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's fine. < 1473998412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not chocolate ice cream. < 1473998422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1473998426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I probably don't mind dark chocolate in that form. < 1473998434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should send me some so I can find out. < 1473998454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i can do that < 1473998464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1473998622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) it needs to be kept frozen (2) mental issues < 1473998691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473998702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which issues? < 1473998706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kind that it's rude to ask about? < 1473998742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1473998893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistachio_ice_cream lists some american companies < 1473999222 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474000162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I'm interested in Norwegian ice cream. < 1474000200 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And none of those seem to have dark chocolate, anyway. < 1474000251 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian ice cream is quite good < 1474000265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1474000269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1474000324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprø som pistasj iskrem < 1474000343 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a good company near where I used to live < 1474000350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good, although drop the last space < 1474000411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tolive" is invalid english hth < 1474000429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf-----###
< 1474000567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it. < 1474000573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sprø" means crunchy < 1474000577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also crazy < 1474000584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a pun, because celery is crunchy < 1474000587 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why do you hate bell peppers < 1474000595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: so many reasos < 1474000598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1474000611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pistasjiskrem isn't very crunchy at all < 1474000665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pistachios, on the other hand... < 1474000704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the one you're pining for includes some nut pieces < 1474000714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474000718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also the chocolate < 1474000728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what you're saying is, not very sprø at all? < 1474000737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mildly sprø? < 1474000754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was my assessment of the pun correct? < 1474000762 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is sprø the opposite of scow? < 1474000809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not. prø isn't the opposite of cow. < 1474000824 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe there's a triangle < 1474000833 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :prø-cow-??? < 1474000844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnition < 1474000849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly gnition. < 1474000876 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly I am not as educated in these arts as you < 1474000904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you've assessed well. < 1474000957 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does everyone know all these languages? < 1474000958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw i didn't invent that pun, norwegians actually use it. < 1474000962 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only knows 2.6 languages
< 1474000963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. < 1474000966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cow is the dual of a w, obviously. < 1474000991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many vegetabel colloquialisms that are difficult to translate. < 1474001003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Hebrew people say "nonsense in tomato juice" < 1474001010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which actually isn't a good example because it's not a pun. < 1474001030 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rhymes nicely, though < 1474001035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474001043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a scow is the dual of a wino. < 1474001047 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximate translitteration: shtuyot be mits < 1474001052 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :agvanyot < 1474001078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are other vegetable colloquialisms? < 1474001086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there are more but it's hard to think of them. < 1474001111 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato < 1474001117 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also in hebrew) < 1474001126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474001152 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never heard that one? < 1474001168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've been informed that "shachaf sprø som selleri" is iggrammatical. < 1474001173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missing an "er". < 1474001253 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474001294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was adapted from a previous version that was also iggrammatical hth < 1474001326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the previous version? < 1474001343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shachaf mad" hth < 1474001357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1474001421 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's iggrammatical < 1474001435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the opposite of grammatical hth < 1474001458 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be ungrammatical < 1474001484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at Elronnd like he's sprø som selleri
< 1474001487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :iggrammatical is iggrammatical < 1474001490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pointing that out is not very insightful < 1474001504 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/insightful/iggrammatical/g < 1474001506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people do it reflexively < 1474001509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it, really? isn't it more immorphological. < 1474002287 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474002462 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474002809 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474004090 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474004338 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474006228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clippy in freefall is going to need to sort out some things... < 1474006681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in girl genius, grandma is one confident lady. < 1474006780 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, Clippy is quite confused at present. < 1474007638 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474007677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474008402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474008533 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1474009516 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474010112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474010736 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474011164 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474011634 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474011951 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474012340 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.204.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474012617 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474012778 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-H1LddWxo8 < 1474013148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, there used to be an idiom "The only people who stay dead in comics are Bucky, Jason Todd, and Uncle Ben." < 1474013157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bucky and Jason Todd were both brought back in 2005 < 1474013270 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did... they bring back the Waynes? < 1474013432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Probably at some point < 1474013437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do they even really count as characters? < 1474013445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're more of a backstory plot device < 1474013451 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, they are just plot devices. < 1474013483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Think, what do you know about Batman's parents? They died... usually after seeing Zorro... and that's it) < 1474013517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Usually it was an assassination set up to look like a mugging gone awry?) < 1474013591 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is my proposed API of SQLite to use with a JavaScript code http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/sqlite_js and I hope this would be better than the existing packages for SQLite on JavaScript. But, I wouldn't know how because I don't know C++ programming < 1474013626 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't SQLite pure C? < 1474013658 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1474013673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, Node.js extension are written with C++ < 1474013688 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grumble. < 1474013728 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The asynchronous stuff I wrote might be wrong though and might need to be changed if the way I currently wrote it won't work very well. < 1474017100 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.204.23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474017437 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7zxr9wnz2txww.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474019154 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1474019166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474020061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474020864 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474020966 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474025449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Talideon 5* 10New user account < 1474025714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49725&oldid=49721 5* 03Talideon 5* (+191) 10/* Introductions */ < 1474025897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Talideon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49726 5* 03Talideon 5* (+313) 10Created page with "Hello! My name's Keith Gaughan. I mirror some esolang-related content: * [https://mirrors.talideon.com/articles/qbal/ Q-BAL] - I really ought to write an implementation of t..." < 1474025909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49727&oldid=46482 5* 03Talideon 5* (+133) 10/* External resources */ Add a specification mirror link. < 1474026820 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474027025 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Think, what do you know about Batman's parents? They died... usually after seeing Zorro... and that's it)" => oh, like Doctor Sarton < 1474030886 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474031327 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nyegzmigyvtvquvy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474031341 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474031752 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474032298 0 :Guest13447!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1474032298 0 :Guest13447!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1474032301 0 :Guest13447!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1474033114 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474033201 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474033230 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1474033232 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'import site' failed | 2 | < 1474033765 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474034182 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474034199 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474036282 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474036783 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474037643 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnnouqslchlafkss JOIN :#esoteric < 1474039666 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474040177 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474040193 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474040303 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474040797 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474040852 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041140 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041342 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474041357 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041442 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474041553 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041794 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042133 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042149 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042290 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042306 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042312 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: when is your bot going to do anything? < 1474042335 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042394 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042402 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042420 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042429 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042434 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the bot is going relatively slowly atm < 1474042448 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if it's quitjoinspamming and there isn't a human attending it, it should probably be tested in a channel of its own < 1474042456 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042457 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042476 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how long has it been doing that? < 1474042510 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only since half an hour ago by my scrollup < 1474042558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1474042568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's give it a while to do something more interesting before it gets banned < 1474042602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the frequency is about one every 4 minutes anyway < 1474042617 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's comparable to pingout timing < 1474042617 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average < 1474042623 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it doesn't know how to handle the ping from the server < 1474042634 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sends a quit rather than a pong < 1474042635 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly. < 1474042658 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bot is irssi based, so it doesn't have to handle any of that stuff < 1474042674 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, im fixing a few bugs. < 1474042679 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :code changed < 1474042687 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so you're rebooting it < 1474042691 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1474042702 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea. its design is not exactly reload friendly < 1474042711 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :may try childprocesses later < 1474042750 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, if there's a human behind it < 1474042757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joinspam is less of a problem < 1474042792 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc while True: print 1+1 # _Should_ no longer let processes run rampant < 1474042793 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be easier to test it in a channel of your own, though, both because you don't spam the channel as much and because other people don't say things and interrupt your tests < 1474042794 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'import site' failed | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | < 1474042794 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :| 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 < 1474042798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi can reload a script without unjoining < 1474042814 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwdgnkxvqpgentmb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474042819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever the tchincal word im looking for it < 1474042823 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :True ais523 < 1474042841 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to implent childprocess based commands for the next update. :P < 1474042865 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1474043188 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043203 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043208 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043237 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043298 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043313 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043341 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043347 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474043357 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043411 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043428 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043437 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043833 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474043867 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043885 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474044339 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474044510 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should invent a dish involving servings of waffles and call it "wunderwaffle" < 1474044639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that use English pronunciation, German pronunciation, or change halfway through the word? < 1474044656 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a whole waffle house: luftwaffle, panzerwaffle, wunderwaffle, atomwaffle, waffle-ss < 1474044697 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "luftwaffle" < 1474044698 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not sure. I could only get away with it in japan or korea anyway, where noone knows how to pronounce any of that anyway < 1474044739 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in germany I would probably go to jail on opening night < 1474044793 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, luftwaffe is still the name of the German Air Force < 1474044842 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wouldn't get away with a dish called waffle ss < 1474044909 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true < 1474044921 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or probably even "wunderwaffle" would be frowned upon < 1474045048 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045574 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045591 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045654 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045670 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045672 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045686 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045795 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045809 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045815 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045831 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045892 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045920 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045987 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474046002 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046036 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474046051 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046131 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474046145 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046150 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok should be done for now < 1474046159 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1474046159 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 | < 1474046169 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046562 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474046730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :horray < 1474046749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print "hello " + "wrold \n" < 1474046750 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello wrold | | < 1474047070 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iwcejbwahsvyuikb QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474047338 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vxsgkmdvkdommozn JOIN :#esoteric < 1474047713 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474047994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, http://faculty.evansville.edu/ck6/encyclopedia/ETC.html Encyclopedia of Triangle Centers has really grown. It has over 10000 points now.\ < 1474048032 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474048659 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474048695 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474049093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49728&oldid=46494 5* 03Primo 5* (+35) 10/* 48 */ < 1474049131 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474049766 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474049839 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is special about 45306? < 1474050131 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474050145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49729&oldid=49728 5* 03Primo 5* (+35) 10/* 208 */ < 1474050280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49730&oldid=49729 5* 03Primo 5* (+0) 10/* 48 */ < 1474050299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49731&oldid=49730 5* 03Primo 5* (+0) 10/* 208 */ < 1474051202 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a0d3:7df0:64aa:3a61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474053337 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474053454 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474053753 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474053844 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474053997 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474054128 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnnouqslchlafkss QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474054246 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474054377 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474054654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49732&oldid=49731 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-70) 10Sorry, not interesting (not shorter or fewer cells) and they use three cells anyway. See talk. < 1474054960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49733&oldid=38128 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+1536) 10/* Note on crunchfuck and more values. */ new section < 1474055391 0 :AndChat112404!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474055417 0 :AndChat112404!?@? NICK :Siniestro < 1474055421 0 :Siniestro!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola < 1474056117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474056437 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474056544 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hcryqvwhzchwyzzd JOIN :#esoteric < 1474057337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474057619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474057819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why is ONLY the third verse of Deutschlandlied sung in Germany? Like, the first verse is kind of objectionable, but the second is fine, though not really a good first verse. Why not 3 then 2?) < 1474057868 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, I guess 2 could be considered sexist? "Our women are the best women" is I guess offensive to certain horseshoes?) < 1474057968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is the current government of Germany considered different from the one the Third Reich was part of, or the same government but reformed?) < 1474058246 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474058599 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474058795 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474058904 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it's considered different < 1474058919 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, well, dunno, maybe they wanted it short < 1474059383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Every country should standardize their emergency codes. I just learned it's 112 in Deutschland rather than 'Mürika's standard 911. I vote we all agree worldwide to use 900, 999, 666, or 100. 999 and 666 are best because they're easily memorable and can be typed quickly; I like 666, but other people won't and 999 is easier because it's the lower-right) < 1474059424 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :999 was rejected by GSM body due to being easy to accidentally dial < 1474059427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Current numbers in each country would be a standard redirect to the new one) < 1474059430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Oh right... < 1474059453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must be why they went with 911... < 1474059462 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 112 < 1474059486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: 112 is easier < 1474059487 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: it's more or less standardized, in that the recommended number is 112 everywhere in Europe and 911 everywhere in North America < 1474059492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474059495 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 112 works everywhere in Europe < 1474059511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah. I vote 'murica adopts it as an alternate. < 1474059517 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the US uses 911 because numbers of the form x11 were used as special cases in the original US numbering system < 1474059538 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, 112 is definitely easier to dial, at least on European phones where you can dial 112 without unlocking the key lock, because the three buttons are next to each other < 1474059544 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I've seen 999 dialed by accident myself (it was a small child who happened to like the number 9) < 1474059551 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using nonrepeating digits makes that somewhat harder < 1474059554 0 :Siniestro!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1474059568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, on a rotary phone, you have to rotate the dial the entire distance to dial a 9, 112 is much faster on one of those < 1474059572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but nobody uses them nowadays) < 1474059597 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: I think 911 probably sometimes works in Europe too (from mobile phones), for compatibility < 1474059606 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to tell because you can't find out which ones work without actually calling it < 1474059619 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get a job as an emergency communications tester < 1474059636 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people who go around dialing 911 from every phone in the US as it's set up to make sure it's connected to the emergency system correctly < 1474059644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's the same in the US; in fact, you can dial any number without connecting on iPhone (I think; maybe it's only emergency calls or only one before logging in) < 1474059656 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, you need to let the dispatchers know that that's what you're doing < 1474059673 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: that's two different things < 1474059726 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: one is that you can dial emergency calls from any phone without a sim card, or with an invalid (expired) sim card, or with a valid sim card but without knowing the Pin, and in all of those cases you can't do any other calls (not even free calls) < 1474059818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what I'm talking about is that on phones that aren't fold-out or slide-out, but have a key lock activated by a short combination of keys (or rarely, by a physical switch on the side) to avoid accidental keyopresses and butt-dialling, if the keys are locked you can still press 1 1 2 green to dial emergency. < 1474059834 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :112 works everywhere the GSM standard holds sway, even outside Europe. < 1474059844 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes it very easy to call emergency services blindly, without looking at the phone, because those three buttons (1 and 2 and green) are next to each other < 1474059855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK uses 999 it looks like < 1474059868 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use 112 but 999 still works for backwards compatibility < 1474059868 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even in places where the "traditional" number is something else.) < 1474059884 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the extent that hardly anyone actually knows or uses the new number < 1474059961 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, lots of countries still have older emergency service numbers that still work. in Hungary, they're 104 for ambulance, 105 for firefighters, 107 for police (these were introduced within my lifetime, the previous ones were 04, 05, 07), < 1474059966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland had 000 as the nationwide emergency number when it was established. < 1474059972 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Austria has 122, 133, 144. < 1474059985 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might still work for all I know, but the official number was changed to 112 in 1993. < 1474059994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :112 is quite well advertized here so I think most people know about it, which is a good thing < 1474060005 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: in the UK the way it works is that when you call 112, you get linked to a dispatcher who basically just asks you which emergency services you need < 1474060011 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474060015 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then transfers you to the individual emergency-handling department < 1474060022 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, some phones also have an interface that lets you call emergency services without knowing the number, although the number is easier < 1474060024 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are six, but most people only know three of them < 1474060043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fire, police, ambulance; cave rescue, mountain rescue, coastguard) < 1474060056 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, there are more than those three here too. I don't know how they work. < 1474060101 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how many of them are and which ones they are and how the central number works (I think at some point it was connected to the police emergency line, and they'd transfer you, but that might have changed since), because luckily I've had no need to call them yet. < 1474060113 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has some rather dubious lists of more detailed emergency numbers, which I couldn't really find citations for and find a bit suspicious. < 1474060117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do have separate less-than-an-emergency lines, though < 1474060121 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least had, maybe they've cleaned up. < 1474060131 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :101 will contact the police for something low priority < 1474060131 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, cave rescue? wow < 1474060159 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 111 is a triage line for when you think you have a medical emergency, but aren't sure because you aren't a doctor, and need a qualified doctor to let you know whether it's a medical emergency or not < 1474060179 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this situation comes up regularly enough to need its own number, and I've had to use it in the past) < 1474060183 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emergency_telephone_numbers < 1474060228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the older days, phonebooks used to have a page or two at the beginning listing dozens of useful not-quite-emergency numbers (and also the emergency numbers), but for some reason they removed those in later editions (even when phonebooks still existed) and now I don't know of an up to date list, not even online. < 1474060230 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474060244 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 101 has done wonders for crime reporting, because before it was introduced < 1474060259 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody could remember how to report a crime that didn't lead to any immediate danger for anyone < 1474060264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they probably went mostly unreported < 1474060287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of those numbers were not short abbreviated numbers, but normal format ones, but these days there are a lot more abbreviated numbers out there (I think there are some with six digits, seriously, although most are four digits long) < 1474060300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :People often say they're a "Black belt" in e.g. Python-Fu. Clearly they aren't real programmers, as programming ranks are hex (and #000000 is the lowest rank) < 1474060312 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a list, especially because they keep changing the short numbers very quickly a lot of times. < 1474060360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The base rank (can't do anything at all) is #000000, every time you level up you add 1 to the smallest pair, with the tiebreaker being Red before Blue before Green < 1474060372 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for reporting crimes in non-emergency, we do have a number called "Tanú vonal", but I don't know its number < 1474060419 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: wait, #000000 is can't do anything at all? how about those people that do more harm to the code than help? < 1474060482 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have colors like the overblack that the NES has < 1474060490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you aren't supposed to use it because TVs get confused by it) < 1474060517 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you specify colors to analog TVs via using a range of voltages < 1474060525 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overblack has a voltage beyond the black end of the range < 1474060528 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… ultrablack? infrablack? < 1474060599 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after looking it up) Apparently it's called "telefontanú" instead, is free to call, and has the number +3680555111 < 1474060627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474060629 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes that up in his phone
< 1474060672 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: is +3680 significant/memorable in any way? I assume at least some of the leading digits refer to Hungary < 1474060702 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: +36 is Hungary, +3680 followed by 6 digits are free to call numbers < 1474060735 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1474060757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only bit that isn't structural is a fairly memorable 555111 < 1474060783 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+3690 or +3681 followed by 6 digits are premium rate numbers, their rate per call or rate per minute can be determined from the next three digits using a step function you have to look up in documentation. < 1474060835 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474060851 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 80 bit is somewhat standard, I think 80 or 800 are used as the are code for free to call numbers in some other countries too < 1474060897 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :800 is the area code used in the North American Dialing Plan. < 1474060905 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, Numbering Plan. < 1474060910 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, UK prefix for a free to call number is 0800 < 1474060921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "1-900" for premium-rate services, I believe. (In the USA, I mean.) < 1474060923 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the leading 0 is structural < 1474060926 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes. < 1474060943 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where the '1' was the characteristically humble country code.) < 1474060944 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's basically the equivalent of a leading / in a path) < 1474060951 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that's not US-specific... < 1474060960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these free to call numbers are sometimes called "zöld szám" in Hungary by the way < 1474060977 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the abbreviated numbers (which these days all start with 1, but some used to start with 0 or 9) are also free to call < 1474060977 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't guess what Hungarian means by looking at it :-P < 1474060986 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NPNA is used by like a couple dozen countries. < 1474060996 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't guess what Hungarian means even if Finnish is technically related. < 1474060999 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I wish for is there to be a consistent way to call Hungarian abbreviated numbers from abroad, but I don't think there is one < 1474061020 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the abbreviated numbers have long equivalents, but not in a systematic relation < 1474061024 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(US, Canada, and the Carribean) < 1474061087 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I saw an experiment on that where they gave some Hungarians in the room some Finnish to try to decode < 1474061099 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of them could figure it out, but they started to see the connections when they were explained < 1474061124 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so from this small amount of anecdotal evidence I conclude that the languages are related, but only tenuously < 1474061137 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, the two languages are too far to be even partly intelligable. < 1474061146 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474061150 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the relationship is more in the grammar system < 1474061162 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading Middle English can be fun < 1474061170 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish and Estonian work better that way. < 1474061175 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty alien, especially in the spelling, but you can often figure out what it means < 1474061198 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are both Uralic languages, and even Finno-Ugric, but that doesn't help too much. < 1474061205 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to figuring out Swedish from German, which is much easier < 1474061230 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :English and German are both Germanic languages, and even not *that* far apart, but going from English to German can be pretty mystifying without study. < 1474061254 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is only partly Germanic < 1474061264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has large Romance influence too < 1474061284 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is part of the reason the vocabulary is so large, it's basically glued two different language families together < 1474061285 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is 100% Germanic, at least from a language family sense. < 1474061294 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has, yes, huge Romance influence. < 1474061294 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the grammar/structural components are mostly Germanic though) < 1474061312 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also got huge influence from a *different branch* of the Germanic family. < 1474061333 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's West Germanic, but with vocabulary and grammatical changes adopted from North Germanic. < 1474061333 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, obviously how easy it is to understand a language from another depends a lot on the topic discussed and even the writing style, because those can influence how much of the vocabulary is related < 1474061335 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :100% Germanic, not from concentrate. < 1474061359 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you talk about modern topics like computers, there are more likely to be words that were loaned recently from English or Latin or Greek < 1474061389 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that were just outright invented < 1474061427 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, invented and then borrowed from English < 1474061465 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I was just checking Wiktionary to see if the urban legend about the word "quiz" having been invented for a bet is true < 1474061490 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're reading French about technical topics, then it can depend a lot on the writer how many English-derived words they use < 1474061490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's no evidence behind that theory but there isn't evidence behind any of the other theories either < 1474061494 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's mostly true < 1474061496 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it's possibly true but probably not < 1474061503 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1474061547 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says that the timeline is wrong (the bet is commonly alleged to have happened in 1791, but the word was used in 1781) < 1474061683 0 :Siniestro!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 QUIT :Quit: Olfateamos muchas cosas entre prisas diariamente son verdades deliciosas y verdades pestilentes. < 1474061794 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another useful non-emergency phone number is +3640374636 (branded as +3640DRINFO) which you can call for non-emergency medical problems to find out which clinic you should go to for urgent or non-urgent problems of any kind, based on the type of problem, time, and where you live. < 1474061883 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a0d3:7df0:64aa:3a61 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1474063445 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you call +36403762746 to find out which pills to eat? < 1474063481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a good time call +1-202-762-1069 < 1474063582 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they can tell you the information in the public description of all medicine products and on interactions (you can also find these on their webpage at http://dr.info.hu/drinfo/pid/0/medicine ), but they probably won't give you a diagnosis and will sometimes tell you to ask a doctor or pharmacist instead < 1474063648 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how much medical information they will give you < 1474063649 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently nobody sees pharmacists nowadays < 1474063661 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I went to a pharmacist for a question which was definitely in their domain < 1474063670 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they answered it, but seemed surprised and happy that I hadn't just gone to a doctor < 1474063678 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :their homepage does have some medical information < 1474063698 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That's why I suggested +3640DRMARIO instead. < 1474063722 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, very few people will just ask a pharmacist about things like drug interactions. < 1474063729 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is literally their job and domain of expertise. < 1474063745 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's my experience too, people (including me) rarely ask questions from pharmacists < 1474063754 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my case, I was asking whether it was safe to end a course of a drug early if it wasn't having the hoped-for effect, or whether it was one for which I needed to take the whole course < 1474063777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also one in Colorado. < 1474063787 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The questions I usually ask about them is which is the cheapest product equivalent to some other product. < 1474063798 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Seems reasonable. < 1474063846 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, it may help now that I have a doctor as a brother and I can ask questions to him. < 1474063926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474064044 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474064328 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hcryqvwhzchwyzzd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474064343 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474064627 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474064775 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should just have made one of the emergency numbers 8675309 < 1474064795 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474064804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why? < 1474064813 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474064826 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, it's easy to remember < 1474064836 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :becuase everyone knows that number from the song < 1474064857 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. That song was never popular here. < 1474064892 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in places where that song was popular, then < 1474064900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard the song. < 1474064902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I know the number. < 1474064948 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :People can remember the emergency numbers because they're written on a lot of places that are easy to notice: on lots of emergency vehicles, near public payphones, on some police buildings, on websites, etc. < 1474064974 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And from phonebooks, for old people like me.) < 1474064983 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there's a song for them. Maybe there should be. < 1474064996 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are probably instruction videos. < 1474065034 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen signs advertizing the emergency numbers in other public places too, often together with other useful information about emergency procedures.. < 1474065091 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474065106 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, signs that say that if there's a fire in this building, call some number it gives which is the phone number of the maintainer for that public building or call 112; the sign also sometimes tells you what information you should report. < 1474065210 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's written on emergency vehicles here; what payphones?; I don't think it's writen on police buildings either < 1474065215 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not particularly prominenty < 1474065228 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agree about emergency signs though < 1474065265 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the ones in public buildings pointing out where emergency exits are and what way to take and such < 1474065281 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and websites too. like, see the two big numbers on http://www.police.hu/ ? < 1474065319 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, I'll give you websites too < 1474065345 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://polisen.se/ ← yeah, here too apparently. makes sense < 1474065352 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite as prominent though < 1474065379 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also hope teachers teach these kinds of useful things in elementary schools and high schools, but I don't follow what schools do these days. < 1474065389 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, definitely < 1474065418 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously that doesn't help older adults when a lot of these information needs updated. < 1474065422 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and < 1474065539 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the majority of adults here have a driver's license, and unless you've got it many decades ago, a driver's license requires a course and exam on first aid procedures and other procedures to be followed in case of an accident, and that definitely requires knowing how to call the police and ambulance < 1474065582 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also television. Many people still watch television, and television also tells about this sort of thing sometimes. < 1474065613 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least if you listen to the news programs, not only TV series. < 1474065617 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So television and radio probably helps a lot too. < 1474065670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the annoying things about English is comparative adjectives < 1474065710 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: be more specific? < 1474065717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Working on it < 1474065726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I first saw the words used by Wiktionary, it was that (usually) -est is the Superlative (the most adjectival), which I knew < 1474065780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that (usually) -er (used to say something more adjectivial, but not necessarily the most) is the... "comparative"? < 1474065799 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474065803 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474065884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474065990 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hear a story < 1474066038 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474066163 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474066468 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1474066554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kobalt: did you kill your master < 1474066777 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474067195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474067279 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7zxr9wnz2txww.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474067292 0 :makellite!~ago@catv-86-101-160-175.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474067570 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474067575 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474067685 0 :makellite!~ago@catv-86-101-160-175.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world :) < 1474067727 0 :makellite!~ago@catv-86-101-160-175.catv.broadband.hu PART #esoteric : < 1474067727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE makellite < 1474067729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MaKeLlItE: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: . (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN EfNeT Or dAlNeT.) < 1474067742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1474067758 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474068195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lol < 1474068196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol stands for laughing out legends < 1474068255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg lol < 1474068257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-06-24 le/rn lol/lol stands for laughing out legends < 1474068265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1474068281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's probably out of your league < 1474068288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that part < 1474068306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's combining, i guess, "laughing out loud" and "league of legends" < 1474068307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1474068315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't get it < 1474068317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. you expect there to be more to it? < 1474068329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect it to not exist if that's all there is to it < 1474068368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1474068446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx le/rm//rm "wisdom/$1" < 1474068448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rm < 1474068449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rm lol < 1474068451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474068480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln -sf ../bin/forget le/rm < 1474068481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1474068485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf ../bin/forget le/rm < 1474068487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474068499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rm lol < 1474068499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/lol': No such file or directory \ Forget what? < 1474068931 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474068936 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 0 < 1474068938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hax0r//hax0r (see ¯\(°​_o)/¯) < 1474068946 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 1 < 1474068947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1*1//1*1 is two. < 1474068949 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 2 < 1474068950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523//Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. < 1474068967 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 3 < 1474068968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usb3//USB3 hosts are packaged with a full independent implementation of the older USB/USB2, going through separate pins in the same socket. It is similar to DVI, except you need a separate passive converter stub to plug VGA monitor to DVI socket, but you don't need one to plug a USB client to an USB3 host. < 1474068990 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 4 < 1474068991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4chan//4chan is twice as loud as stereo. < 1474068995 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 5 < 1474068996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :md5//MD5 is a hash algorithm mainly used by underdeveloped aliens. < 1474069002 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 6 < 1474069003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600//2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle. < 1474069008 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 7 < 1474069009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337//1337 15 50 905 < 1474069012 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 8 < 1474069013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474069014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 8//Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1474069019 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 9 < 1474069020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2//hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1474069025 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 10 < 1474069026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1474069030 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 11 < 1474069032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1474069034 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 12 < 1474069035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2//hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1474069039 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 13 < 1474069040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337//1337 15 50 905 < 1474069044 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 14 < 1474069045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1474069075 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474069075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop spamming. < 1474069100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just right now but in general. < 1474069102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if that 905 is meaningless or not
< 1474069133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg 1337 < 1474069134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-11-23 learn 1337 15 50 905 < 1474069140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we all < 1474069144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was a bit surprised that it got through all digits without repeating a wisdom < 1474069172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suppose we'll never know, then. < 1474069202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? effilry < 1474069203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effilry is eemnoos how ahs got it all deorst otu. < 1474069234 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that "cat: : No such file or directory \ //" behavior on error a little... less polished. Needs more PE. < 1474069275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PE? < 1474069281 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Product excellence. < 1474069298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474069302 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1474069327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloon < 1474069342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bin/wisdom < 1474069344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` echo \'f=$(find wisdom -ipath "wisdom/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf -z -n1); { echo -n "${f#wisdom/}//"; cat "$f"; } | rnooodl\' > bin/wisdom \ ` echo \'f=$(find wisdom -ipath "wisdom/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf -z -n1); echo -n "${f#wisdom/}//" | rnooodl; rnooodl < "$f"\' > bin/wisdom \ ` echo \'f=$(find wisdom - < 1474069352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have dropped out of a spiel I was in the middle of < 1474069361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About comparative adjectives in english < 1474069380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparative adjectives are the most bester < 1474069411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I first saw the words used to describe relative adjectives used by wiktionary, I saw -est is for "superlative", which I knew- it is the most adjectivial thing < 1474069422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I saw -er is for "comparative", which I'd never heard < 1474069445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's just your problem hth < 1474069475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it bugged me at first because if -er- which is for a more, but not necessarily the most, adjectivial thing- what is for a less adjectivial thing? The word "comparative" applies to any relative difference, not just increase < 1474069478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :positive, comparative, superlative are the three used in english. < 1474069489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Never heard positive < 1474069500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it hit me, something I'd missed my whole life: English doesn't /have/ a way to say "less" < 1474069508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well it's the default form so rarely noted specifically. < 1474069513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474069521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you can use antonyms ('bigger/smaller'), but that just doesn't feel right any more < 1474069540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unbigger < 1474069578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially because for more obscure adjectives, their properest antonym might not be available- so you'd have to use a propere... shit. See? Do you see the problem? < 1474069593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yeah, sure < 1474069593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i haven't yet learned of any language which has an inflection for "less", as opposed to using an auxiliary word. but there's probably some. < 1474069606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It should be ALL that have inflections. < 1474069619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and while we're at it, one for equal) < 1474069640 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/{/if [ -n "$f" ]; then/;s/} |/else echo "that'\''s not wise"; fi |/' bin/wisdom < 1474069641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but it isn't. we've probably inherited this mess from PIE. < 1474069642 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474069647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1474069671 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 11 < 1474069672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not wise < 1474069692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom forty < 1474069693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty//forty means "in a fort-like manner" < 1474069702 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's at least a little better. < 1474069704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom taneb < 1474069705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventory//The Tanebventory is big. Really big. For one thing, it contains a Hilbert hotel. < 1474069708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can say "Your house is big" and "this cavern is big", but are they /equally/ big? < 1474069721 0 :hydraz!?@? NICK :hydPaz < 1474069725 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom taneb < 1474069726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1474069736 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom taneb < 1474069737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who taneb is not//elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1474069739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/wisdom//s/that/That/;s/wise/wise./ < 1474069741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/wisdom//f=$(find wisdom -ipath "wisdom/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf -z -n1); if [ -n "$f" ]; then echo -n "${f#wisdom/}//"; cat "$f"; else echo "That's not wise."; fi | rnooodl < 1474069791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -li really wisdom < 1474069798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/zygohistomorphic prepromorphism \ wisdom/piet \ wisdom/oklopol \ wisdom/tanebventory \ wisdom/god's number \ wisdom/vorpal \ wisdom/inory < 1474069811 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? god's number < 1474069812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :God's number is the maximum number of moves a Rubik's cube can require to solve. It is equal to 20. No, really. Look it up. < 1474069816 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1474069824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vorpal < 1474069825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal writes software for boring machines. Really big ones. < 1474069838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1474069844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, what the hell. We need ALL the equalities and inequalities) < 1474069853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually come to think of it, i don't know any language inflections for comparison that aren't the indo-european ones. < 1474069874 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most people either know what god's number is, or expect quarter turn metrics < 1474069881 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case god's number is 24 < 1474069882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...scratch that, i know hungarian. which afaik also has 3 levels. < 1474069899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know Hungarian? < 1474069901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-bb, leg-...-bb) < 1474069908 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not vorpal, this is vorpal: https://github.com/dthree/vorpal < 1474069914 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the affixes for comparison, anyway. < 1474069919 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no it's 26 in qtm < 1474069929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quan tum mechanics < 1474069929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other cruft. < 1474069935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1474069936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4evil overlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474069938 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: quarter turn metrics < 1474069944 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474069963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#overlord kommisjonær#hungarian oerlord# < 1474069965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474070017 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's the "-ish" adjectival inflection, that's a little like "less". Big, bigger, biggest -- but just moderately biggish. < 1474070063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course there are diminutives and things. < 1474070069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those aren't used for comparison. < 1474070155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway as for using antonyms, did you know russian has an entire inflection category (verb aspect) that is _always_ formed by changing to a distinct verb? and although it's often done with some prefix, it's not predictable which one. < 1474070361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("x is adj-er than y" is x > y; "x is the adj-est X" is max(X) = x; additional inflections must be added for: x < y; min(X) = x; x ≤ y; x ≥ y x ≪ y; x ≫ y; x = y; x ≠ y; x ≈ y; x ≉ y; x ≡ y; x := y; x ≟ y ("x isn't even related to y what the hell are you talking about")) < 1474070629 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, there's a book (Bobaljik (2012), Universals in comparative morphology: suppletion, superlatives, and the structure or words) which (according to this quotation) claims that "no language has a synthetic comparative of inferiority", calling that the "lesslessness" generalization. < 1474070639 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This generalization is empirically the strongest of all the generalizations considered in this book. In none of the more than 300 languages examined for this study did anything remotely resembling a counterexample appear." < 1474070665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. sorry hppavilion[1] :P < 1474070673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE UNIVERSE IS AGAINST YoU < 1474070677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*O < 1474070721 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474070756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :([engage reductio ad absurdum] While we're at it, we also need notations for: AM(X) = x; GM(X) = x; HM(X) = x; QM(X) = x. For all the inflections for f(X) = x, we need variants that replace = with >, <, ≤, ≥, ≪, ≫, ≠, ≈, ≉, ≡, :=, and ≟, and to express when x is within various deviations (including standard deviation, mean absolute deviation, and others) of f(X)) < 1474070795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This includes things such as x ≪ min(X) < 1474070843 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You don't have an app that can open this file (.c). Try searching Google Play for one that can. [cancel] [search]" what the actual fuck < 1474070859 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the 70s, they didn't have problems to open fucking plain text ascii files < 1474070859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Which actual fuck in particular? < 1474070861 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i do < 1474070869 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my fucking phone < 1474070871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: What platform are you on? < 1474070872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1474070883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's probably because phones aren't meant for code < 1474070899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, if you have a plain ascii editor at all you can probably coerce your phone to open the .c with that) < 1474070929 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to install an editor for plain text files < 1474070931 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a phone < 1474070937 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can send sms and email < 1474070942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're living in the lowest common denominator. < 1474070948 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already has plenty of text editing features < 1474070948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I forgot median(X) = x and mode(X) = x (and variants for =) < 1474071052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to suggest harmonic mean but is that HM above < 1474071065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wasn't getting that notation at the time
< 1474071172 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your favorite text editor for android? < 1474071229 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know which features i need but i'd appreciate monospaced fonts < 1474071270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention WAM(X), TruncM(X), MR(X), TriM(X), etc < 1474071275 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474071281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've seen other weird ones like geometric-harmonic mean < 1474071284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1474071347 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474071405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've seen other weird ones like geometric-harmonic mean which is probably distinct from harmonic-geometric mean for some reason) < 1474071463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sword of Legend {3} Legendary Artifact - Equipment ;; Equipped creature gets +1/+1 and is legendary. ;; {2}, {T}: Attach ~ to target legendary creature. That creature gains bands with other legendary creatures until end of turn. Activate this ability only if there are no other permanents with the same name as that creature. ;; Equip {2} < 1474072025 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.xgouchet.texteditor 1. can edit text 2. ad free < 1474072029 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :best text editor < 1474072038 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474072071 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474072177 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my standards for text editors quality are a lot lower on phones < 1474072178 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used one, but I forgot its name. I don't think I could give a very informative recommendation based on a sample size of N=1 anyway. < 1474072194 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just install Emacs on it. < 1474072209 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know how to emacs on desktop < 1474072217 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs "If Emacs segfaults try changing font size. This is going to be fixed." The description starts well. < 1474072223 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1474072343 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a bunch of vims < 1474072499 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah whatever, i'll keep the one i just installed < 1474072521 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not gonna program on this thing anyway < 1474072552 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: technically, hungarian has four levels for adjective inflection, but the fourth is very rare < 1474072553 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474072567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, what's that? < 1474072620 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474072650 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the fourth uses the circumfix "legesleg-...-bb" and has similar meaning as the superlative (which uses the circumfix "leg-...-bb") but used when you are very emphatic about the claim < 1474072716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :legeslegjóbb inflection < 1474072730 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's spelled "legeslegjobb" < 1474072737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1474072780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any bulgarians here? < 1474072842 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's so rare that in primary school classes they usually just teach students that there are three degrees of adjectives, not four < 1474073671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. A search box on a website that doesn't let me search for a list of words if the whole thing is more than 20 characters long. Crazy stuff. More words or longer words just make searches easier for the server, and 20 characters is a very low limit in practice. < 1474073781 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :more words make it easier if you search for a and b and c and d < 1474073797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it allows you to list words. in theory. < 1474073934 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, this search form is http://www.munkaugyiforum.hu/kereses < 1474074024 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is otherwise not a bad webpage really\ < 1474074050 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :their english sucks < 1474074204 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474074707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, there is a holiday called "Satan Worship Day", but it's always on the fifth Monday in November < 1474074744 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if editing it in the inspector or whatever will make it accept more than twenty. < 1474074760 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: uh? november can have 5 mondays < 1474074777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I'm not sure it can... < 1474074780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me recalculate < 1474074783 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious < 1474074788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually am < 1474074795 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lern2math < 1474074813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I did, but then I lernd2program and am now constantly vigilant for off-by-one errors < 1474074817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off-by-2 error < 1474074818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off-by-2 error? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474074824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off-by-two error < 1474074825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off-by-two error? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474074847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom two error < 1474074848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1474074854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 2 error < 1474074855 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1474074858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474074874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom off?by < 1474074875 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by two//An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. < 1474074876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think "That's not wise" is the empty set of wisdom results < 1474074883 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: november 2015 had 5 mondays < 1474074886 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err hppavilion[1] < 1474074886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i know, fizzie just added that < 1474074887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Nov 1 is Monday (best-case scenario), then 7 days later (Nov 8) is monday < 1474074906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 is monday 3, 22 is monday 4, and... 29 is monday 5 < 1474074907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cal 11 2015 < 1474074908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ November 2015 \ Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa \ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 \ 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 \ 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 \ 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 \ 29 30 < 1474074916 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474074918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's the 6th Monday then. There. < 1474074934 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even interesting < 1474074947 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't display so well on HackEgo; you can execute cal on your own computer though (if you have Linux, BSD, or Macintosh) < 1474074960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In other news, in the BCS for 5th Monday, Satan Day is my birthday) < 1474074963 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you have Windows then it is more difficult) < 1474075092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have windows and it wasn't difficult at all < 1474075093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well windows has its own calendar program < 1474075124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay for Cygwin and MinGW) < 1474075182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a bit clicky getting to nov 2015 though. < 1474075192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on first try. < 1474075272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I'm generally against PC, but I honestly don't know what I think about "Happy holidays" and "Season's greetings". Not just that I don't dislike them for being too PC, but really I honestly prefer them )
< 1474075316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i cannot get to before 1917. < 1474075353 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I myself don't care and hope they don't all say same things. However, "Season's greetings" isn't the words that makes much sense to me in such context, I think. < 1474075383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or after 2116. < 1474075420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You know what? "Happy Holidays" is better. It's just better.) < 1474075427 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :posix cal can go up to 9999 < 1474075479 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, it is better than seaon greetings, at least. < 1474075524 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnu cal can go up to 2147483646 < 1474075538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally asked cal for year 11, and it gave me it < 1474075567 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it can do that. < 1474075582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In contexts where you can assume a predominantly Christian audience- e.g. in an actual Church- "Merry Christmas" seems appropriate, but the same way Jews can say... whatever Jews say on their Winter Solstice Holiday in Jewy contexts and Muslims can say their whatever (is it Rashashama[sp] around then?) in Muslimy contexts) < 1474075599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Merry Holiday" is always fun) < 1474075622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, Xmas is stupid. Clearly we should use Ksmas.) < 1474075746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Xmas" is an abbreviation for "Christmas"; use it when you are low on space to write the letters. The "X" is an old abbreviation for "Christ". < 1474075764 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474075800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this other cal is from util-linux goes up to cal 12 2147483646 < 1474075806 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "Merry Christmas" is OK; it isn't only Christian anymore, anywys. Is good if you are Christian or not. And then, other is Yule, which is the proper Winter Solstice holiday; Christmas is a few days later. It is still good. < 1474075807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+and < 1474075832 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :December 25 (Christmas Day) is a national holiday in Canada, not just a religious holiday, anyways. < 1474075841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose Antichrist day would be around the summer solstice...) < 1474075845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showHex 2147483646 "" < 1474075847 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "7ffffffe" < 1474075869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, we all know where the X came from. < 1474075896 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, if there is such things as "Antichrist day" which I don't think so < 1474075929 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, you could make it up) < 1474076101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Wait, right, it's not "Antichrist day"; it's "Antichristblakmas" < 1474076199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't remember muslims having a specific winter holiday. the muslim calendar isn't solar so the main events shift around the year. however some will celebrate ne[wv]r[ou]z around spring equinox (it's not really a muslim holiday). < 1474076238 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.livecoding.tv/ < 1474076253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevruz/Nevroz/Newruz/Newroz < 1474076494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i missed several spellings < 1474076535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Merriam-Webster (2006) recognizes only the spelling "Nauruz" (and a contestant in the final session of the 2006 Scripps National Spelling Bee in the United States, Allion Salvador, was disqualified on that basis)." < 1474076543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1474076566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading this on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowruz hth < 1474076622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So probably n[ae][uvw]r[ou][zs]? (the [zs] is just a guess because, let's be honest, it's definitely an option) < 1474076680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...woooow. Someone was disqualified in the Scripps National Spelling Bee for spelling "Nauruz" wrong. Because the spelling they used was different < 1474076688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling Bees are a stupid competition. < 1474076716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: *cough* < 1474076763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's a longer list of spellings in the infobox. < 1474076982 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: If Antichrist Day is around the summer solstice, than Midsummer (or the Feast of Saint John) is Antichrist Day. < 1474076989 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, Saint John is the Antichrist! < 1474077032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad you sorted that out < 1474077069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i the antichrist < 1474077128 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you John? < 1474077143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No, Antichristblakmas is the /birth/ of the antichrist in the year 1 AHN < 1474077188 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :St John's feast day celebrates his birth. < 1474077198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to do with Saint John (whose feast is on 27 december) < 1474077221 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. St John the Baptist's feast day. < 1474077231 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's be specific. < 1474077312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually on June 25, which is for Presentation of the Augsburg Confession < 1474077331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, it is in the One True Denomination, which is Lutheranism) < 1474077422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so according to Lutheranism, Antichristblakmas coincides with the commemoration of their founding... OH MY GOD LUTHERANS ARE SATANISTS < 1474077430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cheers* < 1474078699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is a moon of a dwarf planet considered a dwarf moon?) < 1474078963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What do you think of CA Labor Code §2870? < 1474078967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. good huh < 1474080132 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474080597 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when certain companies go "yeah, but we're in literally every business so fuck you" < 1474081020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474081142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certain companies. < 1474081156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But imagine that in other states you don't even get that? < 1474083674 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474084171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474084514 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474084603 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474084738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has 538 ever managed to influence itself? < 1474084783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474084832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it predicts that a candidate everyone hates- let's call him Rumpt- has a 40% chance of winning. Someone shares it, all the people who are against Rumpt and in favor of a marginally less objectionable candidate- let's call her (as she could be the first female president) "Billary"- freak out and resolve to vote when they weren't planning on it < 1474084848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They participate in polls, thus changing 538's value < 1474084878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poles usually can't vote in us elections < 1474084884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're polish-american, of course < 1474084933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even they are discriminated against < 1474084936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to pay the pole tax < 1474084942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, the poles are being participated /in/, not voting themselves < 1474084968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Pole taxes are only for Alaskans and people born in may < 1474084987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to do with Poll Land < 1474085198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lo, have I outpunned even the great shachaf emself? < 1474085511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is boily when you need him. < 1474085618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good first sentence in today's wikipedia featured article blurb < 1474085702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the first sentence in today's featured esolang blurb < 1474085723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit stale < 1474085768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was that famous art forger? < 1474085797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, he forged text maybe? < 1474085842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ireland? < 1474085866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one whose forgeries were so famous that they were in demand, so he forged his own forgeries to sell them. < 1474085877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of. < 1474085961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_Shakespeare_forgeries < 1474086051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one forgerer i remember reading about is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_van_Meegeren < 1474086401 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgerer? < 1474086410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one who does forgery, i guess < 1474086531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-er < 1474086552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one twh < 1474086563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idts < 1474086564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it would be unambiguous if you wrote -re hth < 1474086569 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+n < 1474086571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading my school & school district handbook < 1474086581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and then you would eeven teach people about adjunctions < 1474086585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the section on what you can't discriminate against, it doesn't mention gender identity < 1474086591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you pondering what I'm pondering? < 1474086607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fortunately. < 1474086618 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474086618 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Nope, I'm just becoming grumpy. < 1474086625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh < 1474086650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm pondering locating the Superintendent's email and sending them a polite notification that they might want to fix that < 1474086667 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! Reasonable. < 1474086681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is gender in the list < 1474086701 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not work, but a polite email is likely to effect change with minimal fuss. Unless they're transphobic, which is not implausible. < 1474086706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make it identity alone and be done with it. < 1474086753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is a transphobic someone who is born without phobias but wants to change it... ) < 1474086771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something insane is going down on reddit < 1474086791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so nothing out of the ordinary? < 1474086812 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main subreddit for the trump campaign was compromised to some sort of monetary scam < 1474086837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1474086857 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when people reacted badly, the mods started banning people and deleting posts that talked about it < 1474086869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would you care about reddit < 1474086873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the mods? < 1474086881 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them at least < 1474086900 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they unmodded at least 50 people to prevent them from stopping it < 1474087078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very interesting to observe a popular revolt like this < 1474087214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the oldest mod has ultimate power unless admins intervene, which they almost never do last i heard < 1474087255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if this blows up _enough_, they might have to reconsider that. < 1474087306 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1474087306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember replacing the disappeared mod of /r/physics took ages. < 1474087325 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474087327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it had only one) < 1474087494 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/535jkk/about_what_happened_tonight/ <- this is the damage control post after they removed the disaster posts < 1474087753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so just extremely bad judgement, not a hostile takeover. whatever. < 1474087819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I dunno. the site they were promoting: www.nimbleamerica.com looks shady as hell < 1474087858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks to me like a hostile takeover but for monetary rather than political gain < 1474087863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would of course be funny if the top mods of that subreddit started it just to troll everyone < 1474087884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1474087913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it = the subreddit) < 1474087929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the degree of crazy crap on reddit is why I stopped posting on any subreddits and relurked < 1474088003 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow the reddit system seems wired to produce hilarious, trainwreck drama < 1474088043 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, it gives a lot of people little fiefdoms with near-absolute power within. < 1474088064 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That not *every* subreddit is a trainwreck is a testament to the capability of humans to be good. < 1474088093 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That some subreddits are spectacular trainwrecks, of course, is just evidence that "capable" does not imply "will". < 1474088099 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehe < 1474088201 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand one of the reasons I still lurk is in hope of seeing crazy trainwreck drama < 1474088217 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some good comes of the evil < 1474088729 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drama is funny when you're not at all involved < 1474089175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: They have a doctorate, so she probably isn't an asshole < 1474089226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It is, but just "gender", no mention of whether it conforms (so you could, for example, harass them by making a point of treating them as masculine- not just like a slip-of-the-tongue thing, but REALLY making a point out of it) < 1474089239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's surprisingly reasonable as far as things-done-by-me go < 1474089264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask conal For computing [x^i | i <- [0..n]] (which you used for DFT), can you do better than O(n) work and O(log n) depth using repeated squaring? < 1474089264 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474089382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conforms to what < 1474089678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Basically, the cis-trans dichotomy < 1474089767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cis is "is gender G outside and says they're gender G", trans is "is gender G outside but says's they're gender H" < 1474089795 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because "cis-" is the opposite of "trans-". < 1474089959 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cis literally means, on this side of < 1474090024 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, the province of Gallia in roman empire was divided into cisalpine gaul, on the same side of the alps as italy, and transalpine gaul, on the opposite side < 1474090159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so transgender would mean that someone's gender is on the opposite side from their sex < 1474090313 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happen if someone says they are actually more than one gender or not at all? < 1474090323 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another example is cis and trans isomers of chemicals like dichloroethene < 1474090395 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The first would be something non-binary or gender fluid, the latter is agender. < 1474090416 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or bigender or pangender for the first... < 1474091614 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fovygzfnsgdpuqao JOIN :#esoteric < 1474091667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think someone who identifies as agender would be classified as transgender, but in the flimsy sense, because their gender is like an atheist's religion < 1474091720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New universally-acceptable greeting: "Salutations, fellow lifeform" < 1474091777 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474091966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DARE YOU CALL ME ALIVE < 1474091975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS < 1474092749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Zombies count as a lifeform < 1474092804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're under the continent "Athanata" < 1474092819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(below which is empires AKA domains, then kingdoms and it's Katy Perry from there) < 1474093753 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474093781 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:3d9a:df45:e47c:f2b4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474095019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, one of the recently captured FBI most wanteds had the same birthday as me < 1474095426 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474095643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I know somebody for whom http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-04-02 would be perfectly reasonable) < 1474095881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I wonder if there's a charity that I can donate to that exists for the soul purpose of rechariting my money to another charity so I don't have to figure out what it is )
< 1474095889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/soul/sole/ < 1474095944 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimal Charity* (donations to Optimal Charity are inherently suboptimal, we can only guarantee optimality given the assumption you give money to us instead of our donation targets directly) < 1474096435 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474097059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm honestly curious if https://xkcd.com/545/ has ever been tried < 1474097065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any bored millionaires? < 1474097388 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fovygzfnsgdpuqao QUIT : < 1474097525 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474097657 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474098036 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474098442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who milks the milkman" -- Randall Munroe < 1474098563 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1474098889 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474099090 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, beautiful. '[1050080.761768] Read-error on swap-device (254:1:3016)' < 1474099142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Do astronauts have to be paid minimum wage for a 24/7 work week? )
< 1474099423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact, they would have to be paid minimum wage for 40 of those hours, PLUS 1.5* minimum wage for each additional hour) < 1474100230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CaC again. No important data was at risk at any time.) < 1474100573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading a subpoena. < 1474100580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one to google < 1474100626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that "And" and "Or" don't mean "And" and "Or" every time; they are treated, in each instance, either disjunctively or conjunctively in such a way that creates the broadest request possible < 1474101637 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think astronauts are probably entitled to more given their substantial skills and their dangerous workplace. < 1474101651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SUMMON ENTROPY < 1474101655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well yeah, that too < 1474101664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if, like, it was Ted the Shitty Astronaut < 1474101674 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKFuXETZUsI so coooooool < 1474101681 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it i love it i can't wait < 1474101693 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474101694 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I get most of my Kerbals from rescue missions < 1474101721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: And how much are they paid? < 1474101740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you asked your Kerbal lawyers about the laws of the USK? < 1474101770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weird how there are no other Kerbals on the entirety of the pla- oh god. Is this why you're trying to get to space? To escape a dying world?) < 1474101886 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: the nimble america subreddit was hacked and destroyed in a counterattack < 1474101948 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod/user warfare continues to rage < 1474102461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly IS nimble america? < 1474102475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I wonder how long it is until we have computers that can write novels )
< 1474102607 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474102779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard somebody at school today talking about how the new "iPhones" are blowing up while charging < 1474102782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wept for humanity < 1474102911 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474102983 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was samsung? < 1474103055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah < 1474103060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That's why I wept < 1474103073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they don't realize that 80% of smartphones aren't iPhones < 1474103119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474103566 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], they could just be mixed up < 1474103614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You don't seem to understand the stupidity of the people around me < 1474103621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I tried to explain and he ignored me) < 1474103737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 30 years, Trump speeches will be mandatory viewing in college classrooms < 1474103762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, classes about psychiatry, during the day when they talk about narcissism < 1474104139 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474104302 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474104317 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474104669 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will george w bush become recognized as the historic first he was < 1474104689 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first president to be mentally impaired < 1474105427 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474105727 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474107156 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474107545 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474107603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can centaurs be made with other animals? < 1474107605 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474107628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: No, we had earlier presidents, but they usually lost it after < 1474107640 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how furry are you today? < 1474107646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Not particularly < 1474107655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just heard Stephen Colbert say something funny about giraffes < 1474107664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't looked at any furry porn all day...) < 1474107675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Zebrataurs would, of course, have to be a thing. They probably are already.) < 1474107719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest extant relative to the Centaur is the Bonobotaur < 1474107743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giraffes are really just Snaketaurs < 1474107757 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :several thousands results for zebrataur on google < 1474109161 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:d011:f6d3:a774:286d JOIN :#esoteric < 1474110081 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474110280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474113132 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:d011:f6d3:a774:286d QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1474113187 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474114598 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474115973 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474118687 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474119252 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474119315 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474119915 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474120023 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474120629 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474121478 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474123125 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474124696 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474125005 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474126864 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474127878 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128349 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128780 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128938 0 :vague_!~vague@97-81-163-25.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474128961 0 :vague_!~vague@97-81-163-25.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com PART #esoteric : < 1474129782 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474129985 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474130148 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474130293 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474132088 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? "Target opponent chooses artifact, creature, enchantment, instant, land, or sorcery. Search your library for a card of that type, reveal it, put it into your hand, and then shuffle your library." < 1474132301 0 :petsu!~ru@2400:6180:0:d0::383:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474134499 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474134649 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474135165 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474135590 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474136010 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfq.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474137449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sounds interesting. < 1474137475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much would it cost? < 1474137633 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What amount would you think? < 1474137984 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474138429 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474140697 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card I made up called "Zeux Agem" now has "bands with other creatures that have flying and power less than 3". < 1474141085 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474143666 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474143689 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474144568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mega zeux < 1474146481 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have basic brewing in my df-like \o/ < 1474146874 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:3d9a:df45:e47c:f2b4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474146916 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:4979:72e8:3771:d384 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474146933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474147189 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:4979:72e8:3771:d384 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474147208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps the word "Schadenfreude"- which is originally the German word for pleasure at other people's misfortune ("harm-joy") but has since been adopted into fringe English- should be englicized in spelling to make it less confusing for native english speakers) < 1474147365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("inenvy"- inverse envy- would also be an acceptable adaptation that doesn't require remembering how to German it) < 1474147654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474147801 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474147823 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a failing swap device... ouch. did you reboot and discontinue using it for swap? < 1474147852 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: also, what sort of device is it? spinning hard disk, solid state disk, network? < 1474149711 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474150207 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474150375 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I'm about 87% sure that was CloudAtCost hardware at work again. < 1474150461 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The esolangs.org VPS has stopped doing those "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 21s" messages, maybe that's why HackEgo has anecdotally felt a bit speedier recently. < 1474150496 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, CaC was even confirmed, I missed that line.) < 1474150823 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's CloudAtCost? < 1474150955 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A VPS provider with a one-time-fee model. < 1474150956 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What material of oven mitts (gloves for heat insulation) do you use? Fabric, silicone, or dragon skin? < 1474150980 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fabric; somehow I just can't trust silicone. < 1474151055 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently use silicone ones, but I'm considering to buying ordinary fabric ones. < 1474151071 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use fabric oven mitts because that works good and it is what I have. < 1474151086 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::I wrote how I think a very simple API to make JavaScript addon in C might ought to be: http://sprunge.us/ZXPA Hopefully with help it can be made up in a reasonable way. Do you like this? < 1474151090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no oven mitts, but I should. < 1474151102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typically use some sort of fabric as a substitute, though. < 1474151108 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474151142 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sitting here at the Roguelike Celebration (200 person conference in San Francisco) and am inspired to get esolang folks and code golfers together for a conference < 1474151167 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparr: a roguelike celebration? sounds nice < 1474151180 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's fun. roguelike devs and designers, lots of players < 1474151181 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Until you have to start eating corpses to stay in character. < 1474151202 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparr: how would that work? somehow more than half of the esolang people are in Europe < 1474151215 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can eat vegetarian corpses, that is, dead plants < 1474151224 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well, if it worked, maybe there could be other such events around the world. that's a big goal, though < 1474151229 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cooked corpses < 1474151240 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all starts with 50 people getting together somewhere for the first time < 1474151262 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we've managed to get even 5 people on this channel together at any one time. < 1474151269 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to fix that :) < 1474151279 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are more esolang users at this roguelike conference than anywhere else I've been < 1474151299 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met someone who used my language, and found it without having known me before! (huge ego boost) < 1474151342 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa once hosted an esolang seminar at their university, I think. (I may be mixing up who it was.) < 1474151342 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would hope to write a roguelike game in JavaScript. I can write the terminal interfacing library and possibly involving to call stty as an external program to make the terminal acting properly for this purpose. Possibly even multi-players mode can be added on to < 1474151432 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing the serialization is the other thing to do, but I think I have the reasonable ideas about how to do that. < 1474151611 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the hard part of roguelike is the game design (figuring out the rules so that you get a good game) and interface design < 1474151739 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes, that is some of it too, and much of that stuff I have not thought of yet. I can think of much of the user interface stuff already though; actually even to have a configuration file in JavaScript that can be used to customize the user interface. < 1474151787 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Using such scripts can be used to add macros, to filter messages, etc.) < 1474151869 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474152329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1474152334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do this precalc homework < 1474152340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have integrity < 1474152357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It wants me to look at the graph and guess what x the extrema are at) < 1474152391 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474152501 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474152771 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474152906 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God I hate it when people invent punctuation, copyright it, and say it's for general use < 1474152912 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was for general use, it wouldn't be copyrighted < 1474152919 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't have to pay to write < 1474152980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474153044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with you; to copyright punctuation doesn't make sense. < 1474153090 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About this still I am unsure what mana cost or type: "Target opponent chooses artifact, creature, enchantment, instant, land, or sorcery. Search your library for a card of that type, reveal it, put it into your hand, and then shuffle your library." Do you have any better ideas perhaps? < 1474153195 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474153533 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474153611 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it omit planeswalker for a reason? < 1474153657 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's so you don't have to build a deck that even has a planeswalker that helps your combo. it's hard enough with those six types. < 1474153660 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1474153664 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see why it omits scheme and plane and vanguard and conspiracy, though < 1474153669 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is for the reason wob_jonas mentioned. < 1474153671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it would be even worse with tribal) < 1474153690 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think zzo38's ability would work best as a triggered ability on a creature or enchantment < 1474153702 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I place it on a sorcery, it's too weak even at B (which is the correct color) < 1474153706 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: like a magpie? I dunno < 1474153804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, why is B the correct color? isn't this a blue ability like that of Gifts Ungiven? < 1474153835 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did think of another thing too; if it could have a kicker that allows you to reject your opponent's first choice and force them to pick a different type instead; it only works once though. < 1474153863 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: gifts ungiven is weird, you can make a case for basically anything to be U < 1474153874 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but arguably gifts ungiven is B too < 1474153893 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well ok, it's not really out of place in black either < 1474153899 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(compare to fact or fiction, which is definitely blue) < 1474153908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't really like this ability at all, anywhere. it needs to be rethought. < 1474153988 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another alternative to a triggered ability would be an activated ability. < 1474154004 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was a tap ability that might work < 1474154020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spammable abilities that dig through your library tend to be hard to balance though < 1474154036 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww no. that would cause you to search and shuffle every turn, or more often. can't be enjoyable. < 1474154044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; its cost can have other stuff too though other than just tap < 1474154092 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I just meant including tap, not exclusively tap < 1474154093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, mana, discarding, sacrificing, removing counters, etc < 1474154126 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I just realised that following the color pie rules it's also legal in green (although that wouldn't be most people's first choice) < 1474154135 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: even so. if you use an activated ability, unless it's a sacrifice this or when this dies ability, it will likely cause the ability to be used repeatedly. a magpie trigger (whenever this deals combat damage to an opponent) would be better. < 1474154143 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :green can search for a creature or land (or subset of that), and the opponent can always choose to make it search for that rather than something else < 1474154151 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the ability's strictly worse than something green can do < 1474154161 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of the magpie trigger is that it's more interactive, most decks the opponent plays will have a way to fight it. < 1474154220 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, how easily can green search for an arbitrary creature (as opposed to some more restricted set)? < 1474154232 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and especially for a creature and land < 1474154238 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other modification to what I wrote also might be done, maybe < 1474154251 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's fairly /expensive/ to search for a creature unrestricted, but not out of pie < 1474154256 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tooth and nail is the most dramatic example < 1474154287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not as expensive as tooth and nail I think < 1474154321 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tooth and nail is expensive because it can both search and piper expensive creatures, and those two together are very dangerous < 1474154340 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elder" is an irregular form of "Older" < 1474154342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :green used to have the piper ability back when expensive creatures without mana costs didn't yet exist < 1474154346 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a similar word for "Younger" < 1474154358 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even had a piper specifically for elves I think, when all elves were tiny < 1474154360 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yenger < 1474154362 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1474154366 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, probably not < 1474154374 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If there is none, I've made up "Inggere" and will now use it forever) < 1474154391 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any common word paired? < 1474154393 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1474154399 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did I only dream that? hmm < 1474154430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Inggere/Ynggere/ < 1474154452 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I can't think offhand of a creature with no mana cost that's powerful to reanimate < 1474154473 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were green, you could do it with Green Sun's Zenith (which is sufficiently powerful that it's banned in Modern) < 1474154485 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not thinking of no mana cost < 1474154486 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dryad Arbor has no mana cost but it's not exactly the most broken thing to cheat into play < 1474154504 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pipering creatures with large mana cost for a fixed cost < 1474154520 0 :ais523!?@? NICK :callforjudgement < 1474154535 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ah right < 1474154557 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you believe Un-sets to be authorities on colour pie, there's always Timmy < 1474154559 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is almost literally that < 1474154572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you said Tooth or Nail < 1474154585 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for un-sets, isn't Ach, Hans a better example? < 1474154600 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also green, isn't it? < 1474154626 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there is! Skyshroud Poucher < 1474154706 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skyshroud Poucher lets you put any elf into play each of your turns starting from your fourth < 1474154741 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from hand or from library? I guess from hand? < 1474154758 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Skyshroud Poacher < 1474154761 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it lets you search your library and put directly to play < 1474154769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skyshroud Poacher \ 2GG \ Creature -- Human Rebel \ 2/2 \ {3}, {T}: Search your library for an Elf permanent card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library. \ NE-R < 1474154794 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an elf deck you can probably get that out early < 1474154803 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems too expensive to be useful in combo elves < 1474154828 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all elves were tiny when that got printed, they didn't even have the 6/6 Wirewood Guardian yet < 1474154916 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you will make mine different such as: Opponent selects two of those six types, and then you can search your library for one of each. < 1474154921 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: yes, the problem is more that you can't protect it, you won't even have mana to cast your Vines of Vastwood on it < 1474154994 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474155055 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wonder, would it read better without an explicit list, like "An opponent chooses four card types. Search your library for a card that doesn't have any of those types, and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library." < 1474155107 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if you don't make it a tutor, but instead some cheap repeatable effect where the opponent chooses types, you reveal the top card of your library, put it at the bottom of the library if the opponent guesses right, to your hand if he guesses wrong? < 1474155129 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474155132 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, still not very good < 1474155289 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Maybe it might be better if opponent just chooses four card types, I suppose. < 1474155317 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I choose vanguard, scheme, plane, and conspiracy < 1474155323 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like you said, then you can search for a card that does not have any of those types. < 1474155341 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(None of the cards in a library will have the types vanguard, scheme, plane, or conspiracy.) < 1474155354 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And therefore you may then take any card.) < 1474155358 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is vanguard even a real card type these days? < 1474155379 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474155396 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few things that appear in card type position but aren't card types < 1474155399 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Token and Emblem < 1474155400 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474155410 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(arguably Token is in supertype position, it's kind-of hard to tell) < 1474155416 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those aren't card types; I call them "pseudotypes". < 1474155451 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're the equivalent of Card, rather than Creature or Legendary < 1474155459 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're hypertypes, given that they're more general than supertypes < 1474155474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in that case they are that kind of thing; "pseudotypes" is something more general. < 1474155513 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't emblems a new sort of object these days, besides cards in a zone, activated or triggered abilities on the stack, tokens in a zone, copies of spells? < 1474155522 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A pseudotype is never part of an object's text and is never a characteristic.) < 1474155538 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes, they are a new sort of object. < 1474155562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other sorts of objects are copies of cards, copies of spells, tokens, abilities on stack, like you say. < 1474155573 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"copies of cards"? < 1474155624 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: you can copy an exiled card, although I think the copy immediately dissipates if you don't immediately cast it < 1474155631 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there only copies of spells (which usually are in exile or on the stack), tokens (which may be created as copies of a permanent), permanents that currently copy a permanent? < 1474155642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474155654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copies of spells work completely differently from copying a permanent, they're just accidentally named the same, as far as I can see < 1474155668 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some cases copies of cards are created and then cast (such as cipher). < 1474155677 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: there's a template along the lines of "you may copy the exiled instant, and may cast the copy" < 1474155689 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Trait Doctoring < 1474155690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trait Doctoring \ U \ Sorcery \ Change the text of target permanent by replacing all instances of one color word with another or one basic land type with another until end of turn. \ Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of < 1474155693 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that's why a copy of a spell can be in exile. < 1474155697 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1474155699 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If the copy is not cast, it ceases to exist.) < 1474155704 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Hidden Strings < 1474155705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hidden Strings \ 1U \ Sorcery \ You may tap or untap target permanent, then you may tap or untap another target permanent. \ Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.) \ DGM-C < 1474155711 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1474155722 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that the copy isn't a spell until you cast it < 1474155723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It isn't a spell while it is anywhere other than the stack. < 1474155739 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so temporarily, it's just a copy of a card < 1474155745 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's database should be updated with Eldritch Moon by the way < 1474155756 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it should also be updated with Kaladesh < 1474155759 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :full spoiler's out now < 1474155766 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474155774 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfj: no, it's still a copy of a spell, because the template it's made from is a copy. it's just that that copy-of-a-spell is not currently a spell < 1474155783 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfj: oh, is it out already? nice < 1474155791 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: what spell is it copying, though? < 1474155816 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hidden Strings itself is in exile < 1474155829 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the stack has nothing but a triggered ability that's trying to resolve < 1474155841 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: oh... um, I don't know how that works then < 1474155855 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it makes a copy of Hidden Strings in exile, then allows you to cast the copy < 1474155858 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't the copy just disappears again < 1474155861 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't understand how all those rules work < 1474155873 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably right < 1474155880 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a copy-of-a-card, which can be cast, and which disappears upon resolution or being countered < 1474155891 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like a copy-of-a-spell except that it isn't a spell that was copied < 1474155897 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1474155910 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(compare to token-copy-of-a-permanent, which is a token in addition to being a copy) < 1474156217 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474156253 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474157100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474157234 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474157300 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :De Morganmon: Gotta not catch not any of 'em all! < 1474157306 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ all// < 1474157465 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474157748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a good pun about De Morgan's laws once. < 1474157756 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately it's confidential. < 1474157782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tell us the dual pun, it should only be nfidential < 1474157809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately the best I can get is a contranfindential < 1474157812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun < 1474157812 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Things that are nfidential are mandatory knowledge; the fact that you don't know it is a crime < 1474157825 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1474157825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474157855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi callforjudgement < 1474157862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the origin of your nick? < 1474157879 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nomic < 1474157885 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it like a M:tG card? < 1474157894 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Call for J < 1474157895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474157908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card call for j < 1474157909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1474157912 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1474157929 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ju[dge].*ment < 1474157929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avacyn's Judgment \ 1R \ Sorcery \ Madness {X}{R} (If you discard this card, discard it into exile. When you do, cast it for its madness cost or put it into your graveyard.) \ Avacyn's Judgment deals 2 damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures and/or players. If Avacyn's Judgment's madness cost was paid, it deals X damage di < 1474157932 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ju[dge]*ment < 1474157933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radiant's Judgment \ 2W \ Instant \ Destroy target creature with power 4 or greater. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ UL-C, VMA-C < 1474157935 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ju[dge]*ment < 1474157936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iona's Judgment \ 4W \ Sorcery \ Exile target creature or enchantment. \ WWK-C < 1474157940 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ju[dge]*ment < 1474157940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radiant's Judgment \ 2W \ Instant \ Destroy target creature with power 4 or greater. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ UL-C, VMA-C < 1474157943 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/rkeep/current_flr.txt : search for "991/17" to find the relevant part < 1474157943 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ju[dge]*ment < 1474157944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trostani's Judgment \ 5W \ Instant \ Exile target creature, then populate. (Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of a creature token you control.) \ RTR-C < 1474157944 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: iirc, callforjudgement = ais523 < 1474157950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that. < 1474157953 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ju[dge]*ment < 1474157954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Council's Judgment \ 1WW \ Sorcery \ Will of the council -- Starting with you, each player votes for a nonland permanent you don't control. Exile each permanent with the most votes or tied for most votes. \ CNS-R, VMA-R < 1474157965 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card call for < 1474157966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call for Blood \ 4B \ Instant -- Arcane \ As an additional cost to cast Call for Blood, sacrifice a creature. \ Target creature gets -X/-X until end of turn, where X is the sacrificed creature's power. \ BOK-C < 1474157972 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card [^']..ju[dge]*ment < 1474157973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day of Judgment \ 2WW \ Sorcery \ Destroy all creatures. \ ZEN-R, M11-R, M12-R < 1474157983 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Magic: The Gathering set called Judgment. < 1474157994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true < 1474158044 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :call for juegddment < 1474158193 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually the story is a bit more complex than the nomic term, although it's based on that < 1474158225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the story for any of your nicks, actually. < 1474158228 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlogNomic used to have a method of making anonymous calls for judgement, and they displayed with "CallForJudgment" (US spelling) as the username < 1474158231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the third one? < 1474158251 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the US spelling though and added an extra e when I read it mentally < 1474158264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"judgment" is the US spelling? < 1474158270 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I started lurking the BlogNomic IRC channel (before I started playing), I decided I'd be anonymous < 1474158276 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think "ais523" is because "ais" are the initials of his real names or something < 1474158276 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( now we just need to know what scarf is for ) < 1474158279 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I used callforjudgement as my nick < 1474158282 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then things spiralled from there < 1474158298 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ais523 was an autogenerated username by a computer syste < 1474158299 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*system < 1474158309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.dictionary.com/judgement-vs-judgment/ says that the British spelling has no e < 1474158313 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I believe it was configured to use my initials as part of the name < 1474158336 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I believe it's "judgment" when talking about a legal judgment, in the UK < 1474158350 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "judgement" when talking about someone's judgement (as in, how good they are at making decisions) < 1474158362 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the spelling is compicated, I never follow it, there's some version without a "d" too (is that only French, or English too?), that's why I used a wildcard < 1474158364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1474158382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the version where you're talking about what the judge meant. < 1474158387 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: "jugement" is French < 1474158392 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :judgment doesn't make sense < 1474158857 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spelling in norwegian is simple hth: dom < 1474158891 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't that the black one, when judgement is the white one? or somethign < 1474158898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dom < 1474158899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474158902 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card doom < 1474158903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thraben Doomsayer \ 1WW \ Creature -- Human Cleric \ 2/2 \ {T}: Put a 1/1 white Human creature token onto the battlefield. \ Fateful hour -- As long as you have 5 or less life, other creatures you control get +2/+2. \ DKA-R < 1474158909 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card doom$ < 1474158910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crown of Doom \ 3 \ Artifact \ Whenever a creature attacks you or a planeswalker you control, it gets +2/+0 until end of turn. \ {2}: Target player other than Crown of Doom's owner gains control of it. Activate this ability only during your turn. \ C14-R < 1474158913 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card doom$ < 1474158914 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eye of Doom \ 4 \ Artifact \ When Eye of Doom enters the battlefield, each player chooses a nonland permanent and puts a doom counter on it. \ {2}, {T}, Sacrifice Eye of Doom: Destroy each permanent with a doom counter on it. \ C13-R < 1474158923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: no hth < 1474158926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps you should learn to play magic: the gathering hth < 1474158938 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card doom$(?!.*\n.*artifact) < 1474158939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crackling Doom \ RWB \ Instant \ Crackling Doom deals 2 damage to each opponent. Each opponent sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures he or she controls. \ KTK-R < 1474158947 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card doom\nb < 1474158948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glyph of Doom \ B \ Instant \ Choose target Wall creature. At this turn's next end of combat, destroy all creatures that were blocked by that creature this turn. \ LE-C < 1474158957 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card doom\nbb < 1474158958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1474158981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no hth < 1474158985 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's called < 1474158989 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card damn < 1474158990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choice of Damnations \ 5B \ Sorcery -- Arcane \ Target opponent chooses a number. You may have that player lose that much life. If you don't, that player sacrifices all but that many permanents. \ SOK-R < 1474159000 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card damn.*\n2bb < 1474159001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damnation \ 2BB \ Sorcery \ Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated. \ PLC-R < 1474159005 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not doom < 1474159019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :darnation < 1474159183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? damnation < 1474159184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnation? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474159267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The Damnation was an evil empire of yore, until the dam no longer held and they got flooded. < 1474159270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'damnation': The Damnation was an evil empire of yore, until the dam no longer held and they got flooded. < 1474159435 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Product is ×; n-ary product is ∏. n-ary coproduct is ∐; what is normal coproduct?) < 1474159447 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My font messed up ∏ and ∐ < 1474159449 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1474159515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-ary coproduct is Σ < 1474159535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ∐ < 1474159536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2210 N-ARY COPRODUCT] < 1474159542 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you like to learn rules of Magic: the Gathering cards, this is rules http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/magic-rules/ (this is an unofficial copy of the rules that includes hyperlinks) < 1474159578 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you also have to learn the cards, too. < 1474159603 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode × < 1474159604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00D7 MULTIPLICATION SIGN] < 1474159604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to learn the cards. < 1474159613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ADDITION SIGN < 1474159615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474159618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474159634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode ∐ < 1474159634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2210 N-ARY COPRODUCT] < 1474159646 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not all of the cards; only the ones in use. But unless they are very old cards, the current text is written on the cards themself. < 1474159649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode [ADDITION SIGN] < 1474159652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0000 \ UTF-8: 00 UTF-16BE: 0000 Decimal: � \ . \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0001 \ UTF-8: 01 UTF-16BE: 0001 Decimal:
\ . \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0002 \ UTF-8: 02 UTF-16BE: 0002 Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, C < 1474159666 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you expecting there to be an ADDITION SIGN? < 1474159668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474159670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PLUS < 1474159671 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+002B PLUS SIGN \ UTF-8: 2b UTF-16BE: 002b Decimal: + \ + \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ES (European Number Separator) \ \ U+00B1 PLUS-MINUS SIGN \ UTF-8: c2 b1 UTF-16BE: 00b1 Decimal: ± \ ± \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ET (European Number Terminator) \ \ U+02D6 MODIFIER LETTER PLUS SIGN \ UTF-8: cb 96 UTF-16BE: 0 < 1474159673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some very old cards are written very different than expecting of current rule) < 1474159684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: logic. oh hm. < 1474159888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION somehow cannot be bothered to look up the actual answer.
< 1474159918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What actual answer? < 1474159935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to hppavilion[2]'s question. < 1474159939 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474159958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't I answer it? < 1474159960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1474159981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dos < 1474159984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dos: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1474159986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1474159988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just rejected part of what he said, despite it being clearly correct hth < 1474159989 0 :dos!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1474159997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1474160003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unwelcome dos < 1474160004 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unwelcome: not found < 1474160014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why don't we have `unwelcome? < 1474160044 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we call that /kickban hth < 1474160055 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: because we have too many stupid welcome variants. including stupid ones I created. < 1474160055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1474160066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome dos < 1474160069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08dos: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1474160069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg welcome < 1474160070 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1474160071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-05-24 sed -i \'s/on irc.*/on EFnet or DALnet.)/\' wisdom/welcome \ 2014-05-29 sed -i \'s!wiki/Main_Page!!\' wisdom/welcome \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2013-11-01 sed -i \'s#http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page##\' wisdom/welcome \ 2013-02-13 . (Får thä åther kind åf esåtärica, try #esoteric ån ÄFnät år DALnet.) < 1474160119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew hppavilion[1] < 1474160120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :]1[noilivapph < 1474160127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the closest hth < 1474160142 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474160145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That works, but we're trying to unwelcome dos < 1474160152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew dos < 1474160153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :sod < 1474160172 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` wälcåmä dos | rev < 1474160173 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rev: stdin: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character < 1474160188 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` wälcåmä dos | LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 rev < 1474160190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (also, when it reversed it didn't flip the [ and ]. that's a problem imho) < 1474160190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​).tänLAD ro tänFE no cirätåse# yrt ,acirätosä fo dnik rähtå äht råF( .>/gro.sgnalåsä//:ptth< :ikiw ruo tuå kcähc ,noitamrofni ärom råF !tnämyålped dna ngisäd egaugnal gnimmargårp cirätose råf buh lanåitanretni eht åt ämocleW :sod < 1474160230 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` locale < 1474160231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ < 1474160259 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: what's the difference between `` and ``` again? just that ``` is less likely to be malicious? < 1474160269 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wälcåmä dos | rev < 1474160270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​).tänLAD ro tänFÄ no cirätåsä# yrt ,acirätåse få dnik rehtå eht råF( .>/grå.sgnalåsä//:ptth< :ikiw ruo tuo kcähc ,noitamråfni äråm roF !tnämyolpäd dna ngisäd ägaugnal gnimmargorp ciretåse råf buh lanåitanretni äht åt emåcläW :såd < 1474160287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ``` unsets the locale, and allows brace expansion iirc < 1474160293 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting the point of ``` as well. < 1474160294 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think now `` also allows brace expansion < 1474160296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: this is one of the things you'd use `` instead of ``` for hth < 1474160297 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474160301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there was ``` < 1474160301 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: unsets the locale < 1474160303 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsetting the locale is probably not what you wanted to do in this case < 1474160329 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, it's obvious in retrospect, but I didn't remember what locale `` used and didn't want to mess up again, so I just set it explicitly < 1474160341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, reverse wälcåmä is ämåcläw < 1474160356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe we need a random `welcome chooser?) < 1474160378 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: wälcåmä is somewhat random < 1474160379 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it also needs a randomly chosen name that's different each time you use it < 1474160389 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, emoclew is not just welcome | rev. < 1474160399 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It explicitly undoes the reversal of the parentheses. < 1474160416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which emoclaw < 1474160417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474160422 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a "tr \(\)\<\> \)\(\>\<" step. < 1474160429 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, it reverses the parentheses? < 1474160433 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew walrus() < 1474160435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :()surlaw < 1474160444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/emoclew < 1474160445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rev | tr \(\)\<\> \)\(\>\< < 1474160456 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas rev (I guess) just outputs them in the original order so they're the wrong way around < 1474160460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't fix [/] or {/}. Fail. < 1474160469 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no such in the welcome. < 1474160483 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a Unicode property for being used in pairs with another character? < 1474160488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: No, I mean a `rnwelc or somesuch that chooses one of our many fine stupid welcome variants < 1474160491 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with a function for finding the other end of the pair? < 1474160495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think so, actually < 1474160497 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there's a list of pairs somewhere < 1474160505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/emoclew//s,>,>\[\],;s,,>\[\],;s,<,<\]\[, < 1474160525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emoclew//#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rev | tr \(\)\<][\>[] \)\(\>\< < 1474160527 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, but I think there's a property for pairs of parenthesis that are reversed if used in rtl writing, so that an opening parenthesis ( is rendered shown backwards in rtl text < 1474160531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew hppavilion[1] < 1474160532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :<1,>\\[\\],;s,<,<\\]\\[, < 1474160646 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emoclew//#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rev | tr \(\)\<\]\[\>\[\] \)\(\>\< < 1474160661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this < 1474160663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474160665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474160667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474160709 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: great, now add angle brackets and floor/ceil brackets too < 1474160762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/emoclew//s,tr.*,tr '()<>[]{}' ')(><][}{', < 1474160764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emoclew//#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rev | tr '()<>[]{}' ')(><][}{' < 1474160777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: those are not legal in irc nicks hth < 1474160781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew hppavilion[1] < 1474160782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :[1]noilivapph < 1474160786 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're only mirroring nicks? < 1474160786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1474160786 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1474160800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1474160804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well that and the welcome message < 1474160807 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mirror < 1474160810 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ to / < 1474160827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... < 1474160828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( When should ⋰ be used as punctuation⋰ )
< 1474160833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The letters themselves aren't being mirrored. < 1474160840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma reboot my client < 1474160844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The font is wonky < 1474160846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474160847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and e to ɘ < 1474160854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: no. < 1474160867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474160871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bash.org/?330261 < 1474160874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we added brackets only because they look bad mismatched. < 1474161000 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I'm surprised that the #3 post on bash.org doesn't seem to have spawned a meme < 1474161014 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd expect most of them to have done, and indeed, most of them did < 1474161020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that seems quite a way up < 1474161064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, in the Masons, ∴ is used in S∴S∴A∴A∴s (Symbol Separated Abbreviations and Acronyms) rather than . < 1474161085 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I move that #esoteric adopt that as a rule. < 1474161111 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :∵ < 1474161112 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1474161126 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need more compose key training < 1474161127 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :∴ < 1474161129 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1474161319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ( < 1474161322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0028 LEFT PARENTHESIS \ UTF-8: 28 UTF-16BE: 0028 Decimal: ( \ ( \ Category: Ps (Punctuation, Open) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1474161357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ? < 1474161359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+003F QUESTION MARK \ UTF-8: 3f UTF-16BE: 003f Decimal: ? \ ? \ Category: Po (Punctuation, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1474161379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ! < 1474161380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0021 EXCLAMATION MARK \ UTF-8: 21 UTF-16BE: 0021 Decimal: ! \ ! \ Category: Po (Punctuation, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1474161414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look like ? is special there < 1474161463 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, that visual stuff is probably encoded only in the properties in the font, not in unicode properties. < 1474161509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ( was special < 1474161650 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The character properties include Ps/Pe (punctuation, open/close) and Pi/Pf (punctuation, initial/final quote). < 1474161725 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the other special thing that's there is the Bidi_Mirrored flag and its associated Bidi_Mirroring_Glyph "pointer". < 1474161766 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emocler < 1474161767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: emocler: not found < 1474161772 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok, I believe you < 1474161778 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter one is: "Informative mapping for substituting characters in an implementation of bidirectional mirroring. This maps a subset of characters with the Bidi_Mirrored property to other characters that normally are displayed with the corresponding mirrored glyph. When a character with the Bidi_Mirrored property has the default value for Bidi_Mirroring_Glyph, that means that no other ... < 1474161778 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am disappointed < 1474161780 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know about it, software does all that for me < 1474161784 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :... character exists whose glyph is appropriate for character-based glyph mirroring. Implementations must then use other mechanisms to implement mirroring of those characters for the Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm." < 1474161793 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, in case I ever want to render rtl text < 1474161806 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I don't often do < 1474161922 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 182 pairs in BidiMirroring.txt, and it also contains comments listing 181 characters as having no appropriate mirroring character. < 1474161952 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, for a moment I thought you were going to say that ( was the only character that mirrored < 1474161960 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Unicode hadn't got around to the other 181 yet < 1474162020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's not pointer in the above ( entry < 1474162023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1474162041 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python's unicodedata module has a function for the 'mirrored' attribute, but not one for the mirror glyph mapping. < 1474162043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why they consider ) not appropriate... < 1474162050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1474162103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh wait, 182 pairs. i interpreted that similarly to ais523. < 1474162110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 182 = 181+1 < 1474162117 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they're suspiciously close numbers. < 1474162127 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidences happen < 1474162210 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/DjAA has the full list. < 1474162217 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my file with the custom cards now I hoped to have written all of the new rules involved properly. Please tell me if you think there is anything wrong or unclear or whatever. http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt < 1474162327 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ༺ < 1474162327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0F3A TIBETAN MARK GUG RTAGS GYON] < 1474162379 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the left-to-rightness of the line drawing characters? < 1474162439 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ask lifthrasiir about that < 1474162461 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is anything wrong with what I wrote, or if you have confirmed if it is OK, then please tell me. < 1474162569 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474162925 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think they're all character property "Symbol, Other" with bidi type "other neutrals" (ON). < 1474162955 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "characters with unusual properties" section of the standard says: "Many other characters behave in special ways but are not noted here, either because they do not affect surrounding text in the same way or because their use is intended for well-defined contexts. Examples include the compatibility characters for block drawing, --" < 1474163034 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, those are compatibility characters? < 1474163047 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone go invent a language in which they're important for meaning < 1474163056 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a natural language, not Funciton < 1474163110 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "All of these characters are intended for compatibility with character cell graphic sets in use prior to 1990." From the "Box Drawing" (2500-257F) block character sheet. < 1474163145 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"prior to 1990" hehe < 1474163170 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I time travel every time I run aptitude to update things. < 1474163657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474164110 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474164320 0 :augur!~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474165049 0 :augur!~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474165059 0 :augur!~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474165118 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball I don't need that, right? < 1474165120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask again later. < 1474165126 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok < 1474165237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474166873 0 :augur!~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474166900 0 :augur!~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474167299 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474167785 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474168807 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Character cell graphic sets are still in use now; it isn't only prior to 1990 that they were used, although they were in use then, too. < 1474170745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474171123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I typically use some sort of fabric as a substitute, though. <-- me too < 1474173260 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474173919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474174199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474174466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474175035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T h i si sa ne x a m p l eo fr e v e r s ee n g l i s hk e r n i n ga n ds p a c i n g < 1474175508 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai foa wan shinku zatto izzu teriburu. < 1474175895 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nice convention < 1474175916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brain-Flak14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49734&oldid=49051 5* 03DJMcMayhem 5* (-996) 10Changed the sample division code to a newer, shorter, more robust version. < 1474176080 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474177025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What's that one? < 1474177037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`picketfence ai foa wan shinku zatto izzu teriburu. < 1474177038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: picketfence: not found < 1474177540 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: That's transcribing English to Japanese to English. < 1474177553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh < 1474177572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, translate then anglicize? < 1474177585 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no, just transcribing. No translation involved. < 1474177599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Non-rhotic English? < 1474177618 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transcribe to fit Japanese writing (and phoneme set), and then perform standard romanization back. < 1474177652 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Transcriptions into Japanese script tend to be fairly non-rhotic because there is only one syllable-terminal consonant in Japanese. < 1474177683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "foa" better than e.g. "foru"? < 1474177690 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it sounds closer. < 1474177707 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do you compulsively transcribe Japanese text to English letters? < 1474177718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be romantic. < 1474177728 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. Just sometimes to be polite. < 1474177755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late, i already made my pun < 1474177761 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"foru" sounds pretty weird as a transcription of "for", because "ru" sounds nothing like a rhoticized vowel at all. < 1474177770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1474177802 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Japanese "r" is an alveolar tap) < 1474177890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was at a Japanese store today. < 1474177895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got some mysterious Japanese candies. < 1474178012 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474178187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Was it there yesterday and will it be there tomorrow? < 1474178192 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spiffy. < 1474178243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most people recognize that when dealing with questions of physics, biology, chemistry, etc., they need to ask an expert, whereas with linguistics, many people don't even realize that there are experts to be asked. " < 1474178537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sapir-worf_2620.jpg < 1474178563 0 :augur!~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474179654 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474179673 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474181121 0 :DancingChoice!~Carlo@host43-49-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1474181653 0 :DancingChoice!~Carlo@host43-49-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PART #esoteric :"Sto andando via" < 1474182448 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474182563 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474183447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474185583 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's been a terrorist attack in manhattan < 1474185769 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting, because officially they're talking of an "intentional act". 'De Blasio says "there is no evidence at this point of a terror connection" and there is no "credible and specific threat" to New York City.' < 1474185835 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I view any event where someone plants bombs in trashcans as a terror attack. < 1474185885 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly not a normal military tactic. < 1474186010 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless of course we want to go back to before the geneva conventon was a thing < 1474186050 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to agree. I think what Blasio is saying is essentially that they haven't found any political background or larger conspiracy behind it. < 1474186068 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, they don't know who did it or why < 1474186112 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they've found several other pressure cooker bombs < 1474186133 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's really too early to be sure about anything. < 1474186182 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody died so far, it seems... that's a small relief. < 1474186572 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474187023 0 :petsu!~ru@2400:6180:0:d0::383:e001 QUIT :K-Lined < 1474188688 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474188885 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently in the uk, a dumpster is called a "skip" < 1474189219 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I don't really use the word "dumpster" (am from the UK) but if what I know about the word is correct, a skip is an open dumpster generally used for rubble < 1474190277 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474190308 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474191408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474191739 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474192515 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:fc10:73a5:d00:717d JOIN :#esoteric < 1474192838 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg50dmgo89uunqy.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474192975 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474194424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ONLY good option in this election is that Hillary wins then promptly dies (not that I want her dead (please don't hurt me FBI), but she just happens to die (better would be resigning (but we all know that's never going to happen) or otherwise incapacitated)), leading Tim Kaine to ascend to the presidency < 1474194475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I checked a Trump necrovictory scenario, but GOD I couldn't stand President Mike Pence) < 1474194519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pence was against tobacco regulation because "2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness" < 1474194532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, only 33% of smokers are killed from it? That's practically none! < 1474194818 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], I don't really see what's so bad about Clinton, other than she's a bit too much of the status quo < 1474194844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think she's just a bit of an idiot, a bit out of touch < 1474194889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was the controversy where she used 19 phones and said only 1; I don't think that she was lying, I think she just didn't realize that getting a new phone and loading the data from the previous one constitutes a new phone) < 1474194905 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], so, like every politician ever? < 1474194913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well... yeah, basically < 1474194930 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, probably like Tim Kaine? < 1474194966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, she was a Hawk on the Iraq war (apparently) < 1474195005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a crazy election; we know how one candidate stood on the war in Iraq because of how they voted, and where the OTHER one stood because of /an interview with Howard Stern/ < 1474195104 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's also very... fabricated < 1474195302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's against Snowden < 1474195454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She voted for the Patriot Act (then again, only one person didn't) < 1474195464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's a fan of 'working with Silicon Valley to "prevent online radicalization."' < 1474195477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which sounds pretty sinister < 1474195560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her statements on Church and State look... vague < 1474195643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She wants to... jesus, she wants to make Flag Desecration a crime < 1474195735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And supports faith-based initiatives < 1474195873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hillary opposed same-sex marriage in 2000 < 1474195888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I guess her position could have changed?) < 1474195945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She promised to "appoint Native Americans to key positions in a number of federal departments and agencies", which is very affirmative action < 1474196072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After the Dallas police shootings, she "called on white Americans to empathize with black Americans" (we're talking the guy who murdered police here) < 1474196263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Clinton said in 2016 that if elected president, she will fill half of her Cabinet with women, a move that would be historic in the United States." affirmative action < 1474196440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /r < 1474199246 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474199880 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474199952 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@1.20.164.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474201379 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:fc10:73a5:d00:717d QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1474201801 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474201817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474202507 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474202695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474203072 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@1.20.164.167 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474203077 0 :nycs!~nycs@1.20.164.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474203847 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474204015 0 :nycs!~nycs@1.20.164.167 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474204061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474204559 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474205013 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474205158 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474205540 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474205549 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474205699 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@1.20.164.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474206137 0 :Warrigal!?@? 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MODE #esoteric +o :ais523 < 1474215301 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474215607 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474216782 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474216783 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1474216784 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523 < 1474218776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Java'14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49735&oldid=21445 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (-2) 10(tm)™ < 1474219586 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474220110 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474222333 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474223222 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474223223 0 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:ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474235538 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :either ibm has gone _insane_ and is lieing to us, or they have given the world access to a 5 bit quantum computer: https://quantumexperience.ng.bluemix.net/qstage/#/editor < 1474235649 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :latter < 1474235685 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh, you no longer need to request account? cool < 1474235788 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1474235791 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1474235804 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can literally just set one up < 1474235824 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I signed up in the first (?) phase, had to wait three weeks to get approved < 1474236120 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1474236404 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474236537 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg50dmgo89uunqy.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474237539 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474241422 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, how do you know it's not just a simulation of on < 1474241424 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one < 1474241907 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474244164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474245825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474245854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just proven the reflexive property < 1474245856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a god < 1474245923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you only proved that you are you, and god is a god hth < 1474245936 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION names hppavilion[1] as the god of compile time programmer musings.
< 1474245982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "I am a god" follows from several other theorems; I did not feel the need to document my full proof here, as it was irrelevant < 1474245994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1474246064 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is STOP on the wiki? < 1474246088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there only was a way to find out... < 1474246102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google STOP site:esolangs.org < 1474246103 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Stop_h_time < 1474246115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :INCONCLUSIVE < 1474246136 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/esolangs/comments/53a92v/stop_a_codeisdata_language/ < 1474246143 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea whether it's interesting < 1474246272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not on the wiki. < 1474246939 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474247058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy took over gmane and is working on making some of the existing functionality accessible: http://home.gmane.org/ < 1474247081 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474248136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, so the US is a Federation whereas the Confederacy was, well, a Confederation < 1474248203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In both, you have an overarching government and smaller regional governments < 1474248236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in a federation, the overarching government takes precedence, whereas in a confederation the regional governments hold more power < 1474248822 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474249367 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1474249376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1474250200 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i missed? < 1474250242 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed your fear of missing out < 1474250251 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore have conquered your universe < 1474250252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of MtG and a lot of hppavilion[1]y weirdness. < 1474250253 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1474250278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mtg < 1474250290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MTG is short for Money Tapping Game. < 1474250375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still wishes he could think of a better synonym in T
< 1474250457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Sgeo_ linked to someone's new language on r/esolangs < 1474250512 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@v129-22-124-64.VCLIENT.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474250707 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474250779 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474250780 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@v129-22-124-64.VCLIENT.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474250908 0 :torrealba2719!~torrealba@138.122.4.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474251147 0 :torrealba2719!~torrealba@138.122.4.134 PART #esoteric :"Saliendo" < 1474251461 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.unicode.org/2016/05/icu-joins-unicode-consortium.html ICU joins the Unicode Consortium -- wow < 1474251620 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the icu again? International Consortium of Unicode? < 1474251652 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elrond: no, it's that big well-maintained localization library < 1474251661 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://site.icu-project.org/ < 1474251664 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a low-level library < 1474251722 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474251724 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1474251724 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of it deals with unicode, though not all < 1474251738 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1474251846 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1474252189 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh I want icecream but I already ate all of it < 1474252218 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy more! < 1474252244 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm is it possible to make icecream < 1474252296 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try to do it < 1474252305 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a blendtec blender < 1474252468 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit \oren\ < 1474252472 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want ice cream < 1474252760 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made something resembling a very thick milkshake < 1474252766 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1474252774 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ll count this as success < 1474252933 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :recipe: milk, molasses, sugar, lots of ice < 1474252988 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blend at high speed until no chunks of ice left. blend at low speed until it resembles ice cream < 1474253030 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would have fully frozen if there was more molasses and ice and less milk < 1474253108 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe if I use d ice cubes made of forxen milk? < 1474253928 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1474254023 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for fuck's sake < 1474254036 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :my program seg-faults *sometimes* < 1474254050 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes sense < 1474254058 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm accessing locations in an array < 1474254070 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those locations are decided randomly < 1474254129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo! Made a rotating Caesar cypher! < 1474254155 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :physically out of paper? < 1474254158 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :or on a computer? < 1474254164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a caesar cypher, but the alphabet shifts each time by a set interval) < 1474254196 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1474254207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Me? < 1474254209 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first character shifts by 1, the second by 2, etc? < 1474254213 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes, you < 1474254215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Yes, for example < 1474254220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not necessarily < 1474254273 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it based off the string itself? < 1474254280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your key is (shift, initshift, delay, cap)- shift is how much the alphabet is shifted each step, initshift is how much the alphabet is shifted initially, delay is how many steps are between shifts (so you might only shift every other step), and cap is an optional number n that resets the alphabet to the initial shift every n steps < 1474254329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the key (3, 2, 1, 19), "I am santa lord of dankness" becomes "G vh kpcfm uuxg of byiffwhh", and can be easily decrypted back into "I am santa lord of dankness" < 1474254357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: No, that makes it impossible to decrypt when intended < 1474254369 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made a cipher that would add each character of your password to each character of the text < 1474254378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1474254385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("I am santa lord of dankness" is my current cryptographic test string- I usually use "walrus", but I wanted something longer for this) < 1474254406 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :but because of the way python works, it was liable to give odd warnings when you gave the wrong password decrypting < 1474254410 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should find that cipher < 1474254426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: This is similar to, but not the same as, Viginere < 1474254450 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cipher, or mine? < 1474254461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Mine, I'm still trying to figure out what you mean about how it works < 1474254466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1474254472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: So kind of like Viginere < 1474254483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I think yours might ACTUALLY be Viginere, more-or-less < 1474254502 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so let's say that the text was "I am santa lord of dankness" < 1474254509 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your pw was "walrus" < 1474254518 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :first it would add 'w' to 'I' < 1474254523 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then 'a' to ' ' < 1474254527 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then 'l' to 'a' < 1474254529 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1474254553 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you reach the end of the password, you start back at the beginning < 1474254573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could it be done with (if we replace ascii with just the alphabet) a table of Caesar cyphers, where you choose the /n/th row based on the current letter of your password? < 1474254592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like you reinvented Viginere, which was considered unbreakable for about 2 centuries :D < 1474254601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Lots of people have reinvented it before) < 1474254613 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays, we have aes < 1474254619 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have a *clue* how that works < 1474254626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Compare it to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigenère_cipher < 1474254635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get AES either < 1474254640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I thought we used RSA? < 1474254699 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think RSA is key-based < 1474254704 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aes is symmetric < 1474254707 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks similar < 1474254713 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: AES is a symmetric cypher, RSA is a public-private key cipher. very different stuff. < 1474254724 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474254725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474254728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1474254824 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, since public-key ciphers are slow, they're usually used to encode the key for a symmetric cipher, thus the two combine to a fast public-key cipher. this also has the advantage that you can encrypt the same data with multiple public keys without repeating all the data. < 1474254921 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well these days we use double RSA or something < 1474254997 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelated, but I found what was causing my program to segfault randomly < 1474255015 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1474255060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homophobes don't want to use AES because it's a gay (or "symmetric") cypher; they don't want to use RSA because key-pairing should be saved until after a connection is established < 1474255082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Homophobes/Republicans/ < 1474256056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474256647 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRzl_994Tj8 < 1474256701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :higurashi no naku koro ni aint what it used to be < 1474257055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Logicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49736&oldid=49712 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+216) 10Added @ operator < 1474258115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474258193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? homophone < 1474258199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homophone? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474258215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Homophones are pairs of words that sound totally gay together. < 1474258224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'homophone': Homophones are pairs of words that sound totally gay together. < 1474258243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hppavilion[1] is getting to me) < 1474258361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! < 1474259241 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474259250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474259475 0 :nycs!~nycs@1.20.164.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474259513 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474260148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474260175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something wrong with www.afb.org... < 1474260212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though how DOES one design websites for blind people? Most likely just a terminal interface) < 1474260262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/websites/browsers/ < 1474260323 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yes, that too < 1474260331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the browser needs good websites usually < 1474260331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use semantic markup, avoid putting info only in formatting (that is not semantic) or pictures... < 1474260442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah... < 1474260449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Have we figured out if Vaping kills you yet?) < 1474260460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, the answer for the moment is "Yeah, probably") < 1474260474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia has a project page for accessibility, although that's about wiki markup. < 1474260490 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn vaping < 1474260491 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "vaping". < 1474260528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1474260586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah < 1474260594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mom has a friend who vapes < 1474260644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He's also a cross dresser, in the military, is an internet pirate who DOES own a boat, and a climate change denier because George Carlin) < 1474260692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everyone you know weird :P < 1474260710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1474260715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1474260723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is Alaska. < 1474260731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1474260731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother has decided she must just gravitate towards these people < 1474260776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another friend of hers is a bouncer at Mad Merna's (the local gay bar) (I think it's Mad Merna's), participates in roller derby, and sold socks at the state fair. < 1474260779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1474260817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there was Paul < 1474260829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've heard of Israel Keys? < 1474260833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1474260904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Serial killer; died a few years back when he killed himself in custody. Last victim was a girl found in a lake- I remember seeing the posters and banners put up by her family looking for her < 1474260949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o kay < 1474260996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Israel Keys was a contractor when he wasn't serial killing. Paul hired him to add an extension to his his house before anyone knew, so he was frequently within physical proximity of a man who had keys to his house. < 1474261013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, Keyes) < 1474262436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I may be a tad colorblind...) < 1474262455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But maybe not; depends on whether everyone is like this) < 1474263676 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what does colourblindness have to do with reading characters wrong? < 1474263698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Check the timestamps < 1474263749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: My favorite encryption I thought of is the "Viginere cypher cypher" < 1474263764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You encrypt random garbage using the message and the other person cracks the cypher and just looks at the key < 1474263781 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474263870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: It's a steganographic cypher < 1474264417 0 :nycs!~nycs@1.20.164.177 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474264798 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474265201 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474265730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474265860 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474266448 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you crach them so well if the data is random garabage? < 1474266710 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474267650 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like any of the more "proper" card and "Un" cards I made up for the Magic: the Gathering? What comment/question about it please? < 1474268489 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474269459 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-15g8.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474272751 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474274735 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg888rczp3nxr91.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474275223 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474275587 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474276466 0 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1474276533 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474276965 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-jsabvatttxsiyquj JOIN :#esoteric < 1474276976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwerp-Derp14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49737 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+521) 10Created page with "Hello, everyone! My name is Qwerp-Derp. (Don't judge me, it's a good name). Anyway, I am a hobbyist programmer, and I have successfully made my own language, [[Logicode]]. C..." < 1474277555 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474277652 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474278871 0 :BooK!~book@klonk.bruhat-souche.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474279015 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-15g8.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474280113 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1474280246 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1474281093 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474281314 0 :nycs!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474281365 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474281795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474282577 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474282666 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1474284934 0 :nycs!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474285275 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :any site with a search bar that isn't as smart as google sucks < 1474285282 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474285287 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the pirate bay < 1474285296 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirates of the caribbeans -> 0 results < 1474285304 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirates of the caribbean -> 894573498534 results < 1474285431 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how bing could not find dr who in the early days, but dr. who was not a problem < 1474285569 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474285742 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474286779 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474286899 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474286965 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474287644 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474287765 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1474288029 0 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474288471 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :File tags: < 1474288473 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : Comment: Why are pirates called pirates?... They just ARRRRRRRR.. < 1474288475 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : Genre: Action < 1474288477 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : Title: 01 Pirates Of The Caribbean The Curse Of The Black Pearl - Johnny Depp 2003 Eng Subs 1080p [H264-mp4] < 1474288745 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474289417 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is talk like a pirate day < 1474289444 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arr, that be so? < 1474290030 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474290743 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474290837 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IEUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1474291116 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gesundheit < 1474291126 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474291244 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APhic, mynamello! < 1474291268 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1474291645 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world < 1474291817 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. < 1474291821 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474291826 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :his523! < 1474291834 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't porthelloed people in a long time... < 1474291901 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474292689 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474293183 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474293792 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzxhhbdgzaxemtrr QUIT : < 1474293963 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474295100 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474295178 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474295502 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474295535 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474295559 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clinton's it guy asked how to delete email data on < 1474295563 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :REDDIT < 1474295590 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent data on Paul Combetta has been exposed < 1474295651 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474295703 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ what an idiot, he used the same username on a porn site as on reddit and steam < 1474296524 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@1.20.164.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474296628 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Kobalt < 1474296634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02Kobalt: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1474297081 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@1.20.164.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474297334 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-147-12.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474297627 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-147-12.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474297790 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@1.20.164.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474298098 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474298335 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474298805 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474298900 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@1.20.164.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474299217 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474299334 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474299884 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474301102 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474301136 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.quide.eu/ << I highly doubt this is a accurate simulation, i mean really. _quantum computation_ simulation for classical computers written in c# < 1474301266 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.buffer 3 < 1474301461 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474301734 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474301873 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474301889 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474302299 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: You can simulate quantum computing on a classical computer, but it's extremely inefficient < 1474302321 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think exponential in the number of qubits < 1474302425 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474302532 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474302850 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-147-47.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474304031 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-147-47.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474304143 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474304164 0 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:Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474311026 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474311069 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474311520 0 :S1!~s1feha@ip5f5ad68a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474311561 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474311599 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474312817 0 :zgrep!?@? NICK :Zgrep < 1474312879 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474313598 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doot < 1474314092 0 :Zgrep!?@? NICK :zgrep < 1474314272 0 :S1!~s1feha@ip5f5ad68a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474314292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kimiyuki 5* 10New user account < 1474314635 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474314683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474315173 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought of some possible extensions for line printer daemon protocol, which can include having the server included in the printer. This includes printer characteristics request, printer status request (such as out of paper), PJL format, and named packed font upload. < 1474315214 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a lot of changes are needed from the current protocol; there are just a few commands, and is backward compatible too. < 1474315379 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Printer characteristics report includes such information as which file formats it supports, amount of available memory for data files, paper size, resolution, etc < 1474315789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49738&oldid=49725 5* 03Kimiyuki 5* (+229) 10/* Introductions */ < 1474315821 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it worked! < 1474316017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emmental14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49739&oldid=47081 5* 03Kimiyuki 5* (-28) 10/* Implementations */ < 1474316942 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474317363 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474317375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, does unicode not contain a superscript period? < 1474317409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :˙ < 1474317426 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ˙ < 1474317427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+02D9 DOT ABOVE] < 1474317473 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474317652 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474317689 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzu15ZezipE < 1474317696 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i doing with my life < 1474317748 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474318122 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474318186 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474318208 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: did you actually watch all of that < 1474318223 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474318230 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474318230 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple times < 1474318236 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am amazed your courage. < 1474318239 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*at your courage < 1474318264 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what courage? my brain is slowly melting < 1474318292 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: 2 + 2 = ? < 1474318299 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frog < 1474318304 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, four < 1474318310 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474318386 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: finish this sequence: bound sound ?ound < 1474318401 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mound < 1474318434 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :89 + 72 = what? < 1474318447 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :420 yolo swag < 1474318465 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error has been identified. I suggest /part #memes. < 1474318545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good call < 1474318553 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, alternatively, if you are actually under the influence of subject matter delta-13 (see decryption mapping 87), I suggest not being under the influence of subject matter delta-13.) < 1474318571 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have that song stuck in my head < 1474318583 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pepe come here, and he hops and hops! < 1474318603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474318612 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I see something that I know is going to damage my mind, I close it as soon as possible, and think of an estimate for how long it took for me to close it. < 1474318643 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not recommend posting these estimates into IRC. < 1474318715 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far no-one has beaten kobalt's python sandbox < 1474318723 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>py> def foo(): < 1474318732 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>py> print 'bar' < 1474318736 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>py> foo(); < 1474318739 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyr < 1474318741 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​bar | < 1474318745 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1474318748 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​2 | < 1474318754 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with limited multiline < 1474318785 0 :brandonson!~g8p8@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1474318884 0 :brandonson!~g8p8@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1474318887 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>import antigravity;# < 1474318902 0 :brandonson!~g8p8@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1474318918 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: do you expect it to be beatable? < 1474318920 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>py> import antigravity; < 1474318939 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: Did a browser window just appear? < 1474319009 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, I see, it's multiline stuff, so... < 1474319013 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyr < 1474319016 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Traceback (most recent call last): | File "app_main.py", line 72, in run_toplevel | File "app_main.py", line 578, in run_it | File "", line 1, in | File "/bin/lib-python/2.7/antigravity.py", line 2, in | < 1474319035 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, it saw through the evil plot. Interesting that it got all the way to running antigravity.py, though < 1474319062 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?>for x in xrange(100): print ("FizzBuzz" if x % 15 == 0 else "Fizz" if x % 3 == 0 else "Buzz" if x % 5 == 0 else x) < 1474319062 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1474319067 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>for x in xrange(100): print ("FizzBuzz" if x % 15 == 0 else "Fizz" if x % 3 == 0 else "Buzz" if x % 5 == 0 else x) < 1474319084 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly fizzbuzzes don't normally start at 0 < 1474319100 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>for x in range(1,20): print ("FizzBuzz" if x % 15 == 0 else "Fizz" if x % 3 == 0 else "Buzz" if x % 5 == 0 else x) < 1474319130 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>py> for x in range(1,20): print ("FizzBuzz" if x % 15 == 0 else "Fizz" if x % 3 == 0 else "Buzz" if x % 5 == 0 else x) < 1474319132 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyr < 1474319134 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1 | 2 | Fizz | 4 | Buzz | Fizz | 7 | 8 | Fizz | Buzz | 11 | Fizz | 13 | 14 | FizzBuzz | 16 | 17 | Fizz | 19 | < 1474319184 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont mind me, stealing hackego's line seperator format, also, ~>pyc works better for singleline < 1474319185 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc import os; os.system("echo hello"); < 1474319187 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Traceback (most recent call last): | File "app_main.py", line 72, in run_toplevel | File "app_main.py", line 578, in run_it | File "", line 1, in | RuntimeError | < 1474319190 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1474319191 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​2 | < 1474319265 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc open("/etc/passwd").read() < 1474319266 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Traceback (most recent call last): | File "app_main.py", line 72, in run_toplevel | File "app_main.py", line 578, in run_it | File "", line 1, in | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/passwd' | [Subprocess exit code: 1] < 1474319284 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fake directorys are amazing < 1474319290 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it can get as far as determining that the file isn't there < 1474319300 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assume you have some sort of emulated/contained filesystem < 1474319307 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know this is pypy-c-sandbox right < 1474319318 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I assumed there was /some/ sandbox but didn't know which < 1474319343 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probing the limits of bot sandboxes is a #esoteric pastime < 1474319345 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, pypy-c-sandbox i've personally agreed with myself that its really strong and this sentence makes no sense < 1474319407 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474319427 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : > text$unwords[max(s++t)(show n)|s<-cycle["Fizz","",""]|t<-cycle["Buzz","","","",""]|n<-[1..100]] < 1474319439 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text$unwords[max(s++t)(show n)|s<-cycle["Fizz","",""]|t<-cycle["Buzz","","","",""]|n<-[1..100]] < 1474319441 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : FizzBuzz 2 3 Fizz 5 Buzz Fizz 8 9 Fizz Buzz 12 Fizz 14 15 FizzBuzz 17 18 Fiz... < 1474319448 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hah < 1474319463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any sort of file that can be used to compile extensions meant for Perl or Python for Node.js? < 1474319464 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text$unwords[max(s++t)(show n)|s<-cycle["","","Fizz"]|t<-cycle["","","","","Buzz"]|n<-[1..100]] < 1474319466 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 2 Fizz 4 Buzz Fizz 7 8 Fizz Buzz 11 Fizz 13 14 FizzBuzz 16 17 Fizz 19 Buzz... < 1474319557 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how small #esoteric can make a fizzbuzz program < 1474319581 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make the small FizzBuzz program with TeX < 1474319598 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likely smaller than that < 1474319605 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1474319634 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that use of max is pretty clever, though < 1474319661 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?FizzBuzz seems to be down < 1474319889 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the one with TeX in 142 bytes: \newcount\-\let~\advance\day0\loop~\-1~\day1~\mit\ifnum\-=3\-0Fizz\fi\ifnum\fam=5Buzz\rm\fi\ifvmode\the\day\fi\endgraf\ifnum\day<`d\repeat\bye < 1474319902 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1474319905 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474319912 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_that_Buddha_would_not_play < 1474320000 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that using \day as a variable? < 1474320007 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1474320021 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:2862:69eb:6d23:675e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474320041 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, anagol has a 82 char record for FizzBuzz in Haskell... I have 85, hmm < 1474320089 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a new record: 81 or lower < 1474320097 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not use a shorter variable name? < 1474320132 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I think variables need to be declared in TeX but some are predeclared < 1474320140 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be that \day is the shortest predeclared variable < 1474320140 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474320151 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :found the cure < 1474320177 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, as well as \fam, which is equally short. < 1474320197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The \fam variable is used to control fonts in math mode. Since this program does not use math mode, it can use it for general purpose.) < 1474320202 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is \day usually used for? < 1474320214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i Day convolution < 1474320231 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\day stores the day number of the month. < 1474320246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day convolution is too good < 1474320256 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally it is not modified, and TeX does not use it internally other than set it to the correct value when it starts. < 1474320798 0 :deltab_!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474320832 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474320865 0 :ineiros_!?@? NICK :ineiros < 1474322075 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474322090 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474322220 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474323063 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/fyMQ2203pQM food wishes <3 < 1474323078 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474323134 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474323180 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIbKsd1gR8o < 1474323287 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474323300 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474323315 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474323387 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate german vocals < 1474323397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Can lambdabot error message in a public channel be restricted to one line or something like that? < 1474323565 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> vcat $ map (text.show) [1..] < 1474323568 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1474323568 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1474323568 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1474323582 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yukibot (which uses the same Haskell evaluator thingy) does so, so it's definitely possible < 1474323604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: In particular I'm thinking of error messages, not output. < 1474323607 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot cannot really distinguish between errors and normal output. < 1474323617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't mind if it's done with output too. < 1474323629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "a\nb" < 1474323631 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1474323631 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : b < 1474323653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people are especially careless in #haskell, and just type in 5 or 10 erroneous lines. < 1474323678 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x -> take 10 x == x < 1474323681 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 19 tests): < 1474323681 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(),(),(),(),(),(),(),(),(),(),()] < 1474323687 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg888rczp3nxr91.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474323740 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc lambdabot output is limited much shorter in channels than in PMs < 1474323772 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it currently limits channel output to 3 lines with 80 characters each. < 1474323784 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: why? < 1474323804 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :german is a nice language < 1474323808 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: they just sound ridiculous < 1474323812 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know < 1474323820 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a native speaker < 1474323830 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i like it way better than english < 1474323841 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well one line of 240 characters is typically less impactful on a channel < 1474323844 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just can't stand it in vocals < 1474323883 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,4,8,15 < 1474323884 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x -> not (x == 1500) < 1474323888 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A000078 Tetranacci numbers: a(n) = a(n-1) + a(n-2) + a(n-3)... < 1474323888 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0,0,1,1,2,4,8,15,29,56,108,208,401,773,1490,2872,5536,10671,20569,39648,7... < 1474323892 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1474323921 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i see what you mean. i've had to train myself to stop my brain processing the english words of certian songs < 1474323942 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, like that < 1474323958 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because japanese people sometimes write ridiculous english < 1474323986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474323999 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, even many american artists' words are ridiculous < 1474324018 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`primes 1000 < 1474324018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: primes: not found < 1474324031 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? I thought it was installed by default < 1474324034 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think german is a horrible choice for music. maybe with the exception of rap, but i don't like that < 1474324064 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seq 1 1000 < 1474324064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seq: invalid floating point argument: 1 1000 \ Try `seq --help' for more information. < 1474324069 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` seq 1 1000 < 1474324069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 6 \ 7 \ 8 \ 9 \ 10 \ 11 \ 12 \ 13 \ 14 \ 15 \ 16 \ 17 \ 18 \ 19 \ 20 \ 21 \ 22 \ 23 \ 24 \ 25 \ 26 \ 27 \ 28 \ 29 \ 30 \ 31 \ 32 \ 33 \ 34 \ 35 \ 36 \ 37 \ 38 \ 39 \ 40 \ 41 \ 42 \ 43 \ 44 \ 45 \ 46 \ 47 \ 48 \ 49 \ 50 \ 51 \ 52 \ 53 \ 54 \ 55 \ 56 \ 57 \ 58 \ 59 \ 60 \ 61 \ 62 \ 63 \ 64 \ 65 \ 66 \ 67 \ 68 \ 69 \ 70 \ 71 \ 72 \ < 1474324087 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ^ that's my preferred way to deal with long output; replace newlines with backslashes and allow the line to get fairly long < 1474324093 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :german seems to work well for EBM, but I'm not native so I won't notice if the lyrics are silly < 1474324105 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, two lines of output works pretty well for @oeis < 1474324114 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,4,5 < 1474324124 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: right. that's the issue I had when first listeneing to e.g. Iron Attack songs < 1474324131 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `oeis' failed with: <> < 1474324150 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1474324158 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that one would be really easy… < 1474324161 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many sequences? < 1474324164 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,4,6 < 1474324165 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1474324169 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wq5Q3axIJA < 1474324182 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `oeis' failed with: <> < 1474324189 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know; the website says: "Displaying 1-10 of 5466 results found.") < 1474324190 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe OEIS itself is down < 1474324196 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,11 < 1474324204 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A002981 Numbers n such that n! + 1 is prime. < 1474324204 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,2,3,11,27,37,41,73,77,116,154,320,340,399,427,872,1477,6380,26951,11005... < 1474324207 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should have fewer results < 1474324237 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 55441 < 1474324238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :55441: 55441 < 1474324242 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make your fate for yourself and together" -- like seriously what are you people trying to say < 1474324277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1474324328 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you somehow stop understanding english temporarily it's a great song! < 1474324397 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if english speakers start writing songs in broken japanese we can take revenge < 1474324419 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's reasonable. the style reminds me of helloween < 1474324427 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> last id < 1474324429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1474324429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Couldn't match expected type ‘[a]’ with actual type ‘a0 -> a0’ < 1474324429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Probable cause: ‘id’ is applied to too few arguments < 1474324455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Packing that error into one line wouldn't be so bad. < 1474324557 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, maybe if we translate japanese songs with broken english in them into english with broken japanese < 1474324571 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while we are posting songs, https://youtu.be/gGTAmmTiD_Y < 1474324709 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! < 1474325163 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh I don't want to change this, really. < 1474325206 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1474325208 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next < 1474325470 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474325471 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474325481 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474325481 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474325578 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 0 < 1474325580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0: < 1474325745 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` factor -- -1 < 1474325745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `-1' is not a valid positive integer < 1474325794 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, bedtime < 1474326317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474326586 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1474326601 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474326603 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1474326710 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 doesn't have a factorisation either, it should error on it < 1474326739 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first number with a factorisation is 1 (empty product) < 1474326882 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474327158 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 0 a positive integer? < 1474327174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to a book I have, yes. < 1474327197 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 0 also a negative integer? < 1474327222 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither, as far as I am concerned < 1474327269 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a negative int type in C++ < 1474327290 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book, which is _Finite-Dimensional Vector Spaces_ by Halmos, uses "positive" to mean "greater than or equal to zero", and "strictly positive" to mean "greater than zero". < 1474327309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this would be a better usage than the standard one. < 1474327313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's probably not worth the fight. < 1474327354 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a negative int would basically interpret 1 as -255, instead of -1 as 255 as with unsigned int < 1474327372 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that's a negative char < 1474327373 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :French mathematics considers 0 to be both positive and negative < 1474327385 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474327389 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :While, say England or USA would say 0 is neither < 1474327504 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea! a stupid char allows values [-255,-128]u[128,255]. < 1474327581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, lets go with that. numbers near zero are unrepresented < 1474327634 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474327958 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's use balanced ternary < 1474328096 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's use binary coded duodecimal < 1474328164 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, we need an odd base to make it balanced < 1474328176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary coded balanced base 15 < 1474328213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-7 = 9 to +7 < 1474328253 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would probably be easier in software to do balanced base 255 < 1474328303 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once had some bignum functions that used regular base 255 so that it could be stored in a C string < 1474328372 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, if you invert each byte before and after processing, the unused FF digit is stored as 0 < 1474328425 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474328453 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, it can be used to mark the end of the number < 1474328498 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474328552 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474328588 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474328834 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474329054 0 :deltab_!?@? NICK :deltab < 1474329124 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474329215 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1474329929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: When in Oct did you say you'll be here? < 1474329984 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1474329986 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​2 | < 1474330689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474330755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Can currency be modeled as stock in itself? As in, can ¤5 be thought of as 5 shares in the Generic Currency corporation? )
< 1474330811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Gold has a currency code (XAU) < 1474330825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why stock? < 1474330845 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a financial instrument like any other, but not part ownership of a company. < 1474330922 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: all elements have a systemic currency code. < 1474330932 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not used at all, hydrogen is XH < 1474330950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fun fact < 1474330951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1474330961 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 XH is, of course, one troy ounce of hydrogen. < 1474331106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think hydrogen would probably be XXH to keep the length-3 part consistent < 1474331110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though what about xenon... < 1474331129 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankfully, there is no element E. < 1474331147 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474331151 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet < 1474331153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make it XXE, which- while unambiguous (no element 'E')- is still going to trip someone up who knows the X < 1474331169 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though arguably one could say that "e" is for an electron, and XXE is from 1 troy ounce of electrons. < 1474331181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, the X should be after the element- gold is XAU, xenon is XEX, etc.) < 1474331206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do troy ounces even apply to gases? < 1474331214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/XAU/AUX/ < 1474331227 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure they do. It's used as a unit of mass, and gasses have mass. < 1474331237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: There, you fixed my messupery of their system < 1474331252 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind, there aren't many cases where you even have electrons out of an atom, but... 1 troy ounce of electrons seems fun. < 1474331253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but not a very consistent density (unlike, say, Iron or Water) < 1474331259 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1474331296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What's the value of 1 troy ounce of salt (ClNa)? < 1474331375 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, good question. < 1474331418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My best guess is that there's an extension for compounds- most likely, XCM() < 1474331618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe elements should be E[symbol-caps] rather than X__, so that X can be used for cryptocurrencies and such) < 1474331653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At the moment, BTC for Bitcoin is considered bad because currency codes are [Nation][Letter], but BT is Bhutan, which Bitcoin is not associated with) < 1474331730 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :bhutancoin < 1474331745 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474331756 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, wifi < 1474331764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474331770 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1474331774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1474331835 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474331929 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474332131 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474332135 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474332233 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474332492 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474332985 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474333040 0 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474333307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bananas are berries... < 1474333308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh... < 1474333966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Maybe payment should actually be issued in man-hours rather than real hours- if you work at double pace, you get double pay )
< 1474334061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i and women would get paid 40% more? < 1474334108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...wat? < 1474334118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This better not be a wage-gap joke...) < 1474334128 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/0.7 < 1474334130 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.4285714285714286 < 1474334192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Under this system, women get paid by productiveness. If a woman produces twice as much output as a man doing equal work, she gets paid twice as much < 1474334350 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Now, in a mythical man-hour scenario this is bad when management decides to approximate; "oh, we added another person to the staff (from a staff of 1) but productivity is only 1.5* greater? Everyone receives a 25% pay dock, then.") < 1474334653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried to explain to my mother before- who got acupuncture- that acupuncture is pseudoscience < 1474334674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acupuncture is telling me that it /usually/ is, EXCEPT it might be effective for chemotherapy < 1474334678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why she got it < 1474334680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT, MOM! < 1474334738 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474334770 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Productivity is hard to quantify anyway, depending on what your job is < 1474334852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emmental14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49740&oldid=49739 5* 03Kimiyuki 5* (+0) 10/* Using the discrete log */ < 1474334989 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do Chinese people with Synæsthesia have to develop mantis shrimp-like megavision? < 1474335332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder if anybody thinks I have synæsthesia from hearing me talk about hex color codes...) < 1474335503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess hex codes are basically just symmetrical grapheme-color synæsthesia (color-grapheme-color-grapheme synæsthesia?)) < 1474335613 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474335686 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474335890 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474336297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Synæsthesia which does digits is stupid anyway; if you don't see every number as a distinct color unrelated to its digits, your brain is doing it wrong) < 1474336505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1474336521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd means I either need to support the Fashion Police or turn in my Grammar Police badge. < 1474336521 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1474336533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fashion Police Brutality?) < 1474337732 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ERRONEOUS CHICKEN < 1474339349 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474339885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm attempting to make an über-concise language for talking to computers (in the sense of conversing with a strong AI, rather than a programming language) < 1474339957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It could also, presumably, work well for communicating over a language barrier because it's pretty simple (for now) and should be equally easy for people in all languages to figure out- the only difficulty is if you don't recognize the punctuation (e.g. you don't know ? usually ends a question) < 1474339960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1474340061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to decide whether the standard initial greeting (the "are you there") should be ENQ or PING (ACK could maybe also be used) < 1474341978 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is best algorithm for converting a code with goto commands so that it doesn't use goto? < 1474342225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you want to do that? < 1474342275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly in order to compile the code into programming languages that don't have goto. < 1474342606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on what those languages do have. < 1474342778 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most will have if and while, at least, as well as continue and break. JavaScript has a few more than just that, but it would be good to have something that can be use even if the target is not JavaScript but does have if/while/break at least. < 1474343599 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "OAA" compiler for the OASYS text adventure system as it turns out is using "twigils" a bit similar to Perl 6, although I invented it independently. This means that variables never need to be declared. By the prefix and suffix, you can tell if it is a global, local, property, class, method, etc; and the data type (or returned data type for a method) such as integer, string, object, pointer, or void. < 1474343806 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is different than Perl or BASIC though. In BASIC it uses suffixes for data type, and no prefix. Also, the letters forming the name are still required. In OAA the letters forming the name are not required, but the prefix & ! , . % * is required. Do you like this? < 1474344136 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a kind of indexing system for JSON data so that you can access JSON data from a program without having to store the entire data in RAM all at once? < 1474344506 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok! now I've made some progress toward hangul! < 1474344607 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not that I know of, but you could make one < 1474344671 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'd have to regenerate the index after all changes < 1474344795 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, also I mean not only local index but also use of remote index. < 1474345060 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, well maybe it's possible to dynamically generate a relational database from a json file? < 1474345076 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by autodetecting schemata? < 1474345291 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a SQL database from JSON data, but that isn't quite what I was asking here. < 1474346294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oppression is what happens when personal preference becomes legal fact." -- me, just now < 1474346332 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1474346369 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may be right. < 1474346449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a guy name Jazon. I assume he stores attribute-value-style data in JZON. < 1474346562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In germany, OTOH, they use JẞON < 1474346807 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474346818 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474346973 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474346992 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474347146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italic type is OK, but I really want my typefaces to support Cilati type too... < 1474347225 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474347791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slowly building an information-dense, impenetrable language for communication < 1474347793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?['cat'].ü ↠ ?[id];; < 1474347793 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1474347799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1474347802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, lambdy < 1474348652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Apples.jpg has been used with the note that the objects aren't ravens and ALSO aren't black < 1474349265 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap http://archive.is/FXcao <-- Paul Combetta was outright TOLD by the people he asked about redacting emails, that this would be a discorvery nightmare < 1474349298 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than discovery, is congressional oversight < 1474349334 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is paul combetta and what did he do? < 1474349343 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: deleted hillary's emails < 1474349343 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a tendency to be out of the loop on a lot of things < 1474349355 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1474349370 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he asked on reddit how to remove someone's address from an email archive < 1474349385 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh I don't understand all the hillary hate < 1474349401 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I worked for the government, I wouldn't want them knowing what I emailed who < 1474349431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: well, the government is supposed to be responsible for their actions < 1474349436 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, obviously if I email bob from the NSA, bob knows I emailed him; but if I email joe, I don't want bob to know about *that* < 1474349479 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are laws in the US that say essentially that their legistlature has the right to know everything that the government does < 1474349505 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hillary is not supposed to hide these emails < 1474349543 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why I don't want to work for the us government < 1474349577 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither. but if you work in any company it is important to keep emails archived in case of discovery < 1474349616 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also why you should always have a separate work email and personal email < 1474349624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which hillary did not have) < 1474349624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you should have. < 1474349735 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to write personal email messages you should have a separate account which the government and so on does not see. If you need government email then you should be according to the law of government and ensure that anyone can sue them over it if it is wrong. < 1474349748 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose < 1474349782 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point I made the realisation that a computer was a real virtual machine < 1474349790 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I realized how stupid that realization was < 1474349846 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: in case you're unfamiliar, "discovery" is a process where two companies suing each other get to request documents from each other to uncover evidence of wrongdoing < 1474349868 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so it is like what I mentioned. < 1474349961 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you delete work emails, you can be fined or worse < 1474349989 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so always make sure not to mmkay? < 1474350023 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :deletin's bad, mkuuuy? < 1474350064 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this API would be good? http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/simple_js_addons < 1474350369 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored < 1474350384 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone give me a wikipedia article to start perusing and go down a rabbit hole of links < 1474350453 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random < 1474350468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, they asked how to delete the emails on StackExchange!? < 1474350519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's reddit < 1474350522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1474350522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!? < 1474350889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Men o' War should be classified as "Distributed Organisms" < 1474351129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got "Distillation" < 1474351393 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some editing tasks are more suited to ed, others to nano < 1474351415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What's the *n?x equivalent of microsoft word? < 1474351438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, sed:NotePad::?:Word) < 1474351527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i suppose LibreOffice? < 1474351536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But I heard the government can see all your email. < 1474351581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nah, based on the problems they've had with hillarys' I think the nsa's spying is not actually as extensive as they claim < 1474351603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people say "Hillary" instead of "Clinton"? < 1474351605 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474351617 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to avoid confusing her with bill clinton < 1474351632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the president after Bill Clinton? < 1474351654 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also her campaign generally refers to her as hillary or just "Her" < 1474351684 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 'Hillary' is a fun name < 1474351686 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the president after bill clinton was Bubya < 1474351690 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dubya < 1474351707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :George Dubya bush < 1474351717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If "Hillary" can be abbreviated to "Hill" and "Rob" can become "Bob", can we make "Hillary" abbreviable to "Bill"?) < 1474351725 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to papa bush < 1474351727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dubya < 1474351733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Bush I < 1474351784 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the movie about dubya was just called "W" < 1474351803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google president bush < 1474351805 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush < 1474351816 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gearge aitch dubya bush was his father < 1474351993 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474352349 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474352355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: No, H. W. ("eych dubya") < 1474352357 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrfgccrrobuvccxi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474352713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :George -> Gearge -> Jarj - Jar Jar Bush < 1474353105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474353532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474353879 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474353910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the president dies, the vice president ascends < 1474353922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If both die, the Speaker of the House ascends < 1474353967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he dies too, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate ascends < 1474354010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Followed by the cabinet (of which one member is kept at a secure undisclosed location whenever the rest are in the same place at the same time- the "Designated Survivor") < 1474354164 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid it's nowhere near as interesting as the line of succession for the Queen, which these days likely includes most of the population of Europe. < 1474354284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What about all the catholics? < 1474354298 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474354312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if the Designated Survivor has a heart attack, but the House is still around, they can elect a speaker who then becomes president < 1474354318 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. Includes *substantial portions* of the population of Europe. < 1474354330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also all the bastards < 1474354338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they're gone too, the Senate chooses a President pro Tempore < 1474354353 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :While it's certainly not the case that all of Europe is Catholic, there's certainly a lot of Catholics there. < 1474354369 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I think the rule is that you're cut off completely- if the crown can only get to you through a catholic, you're screwed. Or maybe that's just for bastardry) < 1474354376 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you might expect for a set of places that includes a Catholic theocracy. < 1474354383 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Just for bastardry. < 1474354388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah < 1474354397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if there IS no senate, the governors can appoint senators < 1474354411 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being Catholic apparently doesn't cut you off from giving rise to heirs, just prevents you from yourself being an heir. < 1474354419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474354441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So to properly break the country, you'd have to kill the president, vice president, every representative, every senator, AND every governor at the same time < 1474354455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And presumably you'd have to break the governor's line of succession in EVERY state. < 1474354529 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, the law states, and I shit you not, anyone who is Catholic in the line of succession is "naturally dead". < 1474354539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1474354540 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for purposes of succession) < 1474354542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"naturally dead" < 1474354611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the lieutenant governor, and- just to be sure because rules vary- the President of the Senate, the entire Cabinet, Speaker of the House, and anybody who can make new ones (so the entire state Senate and state House) < 1474354617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all have to die too < 1474354635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And once you've killed these 10,000+ people at the same time, we're FINALLY screwed < 1474354643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we probably have much bigger problems LONG before this < 1474354713 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there is a workaround for this. I'm pretty sure we could still hold a Constitutional Convention to make an amendment to add someone else to the succession. < 1474354834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And who will convene? < 1474354856 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The States". < 1474354922 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One still needs 2/3rds of the states to have functioning legislatures though. < 1474354957 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Wait. < 1474354966 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3rds of the states may ask Congress for a convention. < 1474354970 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congress... still has to exist. < 1474355002 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be a bit of a mess. < 1474355097 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474355151 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474355191 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So what would happen? < 1474355195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one way to find out! < 1474355525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474355596 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474355621 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/r/baduk is there a name for this kind of thing? < 1474355630 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of collection of pictures < 1474355632 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on imgur < 1474355635 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :linked to a subreddit < 1474355660 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need the name to find it in the imgur api < 1474356082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474356292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spots a rare boily in the logs
< 1474357103 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's why they need to catch and destroy the fifth column before they can grow to a strength capable of such an attack < 1474357298 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaikbWebnkk < 1474357906 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474357961 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474358740 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474358900 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: about the line of succession for the president, there's actually a pretty good reason for why that's needed now, since 2010-04 when Lech Kaczyński and a large part of the government of Poland died at the same time from a crashed airplane. < 1474359035 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets even easier if someone wants to deliberately kill members of the government. Mind you, in the 21st century it might get more difficult if members of government eventually get to the habit of just staying at home and teleconferencing with each other (each wearing the top half of an elegant suit because the camera doesn't show their legs) in < 1474359035 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stead of traveling to meet in person. < 1474359535 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474360351 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474360443 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474361611 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474361795 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474361824 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474363118 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The letter e key on this keyboard is repeatedly getting stuck again, so I'm glad I already ordered a new keyboard. I hope it will arrive soon. < 1474363239 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has an unusual layout by the way: on the left half it's like a standard 104 key layout so there's no extra key between the letter z and the left shift, but on the right it's like a 105 key layout so the enter key is upside down L-shaped and the backslash key is between the apostrophe and the bottom part of the enter key. < 1474364917 0 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474364953 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474366275 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474366304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :long time noily see < 1474366646 0 :mysanthrop!?@? NICK :myname < 1474366753 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1474366758 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I exist! < 1474366770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally! < 1474366813 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes himself. pretty sure I'm quite solid and substantial.
< 1474366896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION aims a neutrino beam at boily. nope, no substance detected...
< 1474366938 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just happened to be on vacation. perhaps the kimchi unsubstantiated me? < 1474366954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds logical. < 1474366974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall continue to avoid korean food, then. < 1474367079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i assume it was a seoulful experience. < 1474367476 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm already missing the food over there. it was delicious... < 1474367490 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thwacks oerjan. 0.9 shachafs.
< 1474367521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to get you back in mapole shape, you know. < 1474367574 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not yet quite synchronized with my current timezone. < 1474367605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost am! for once. < 1474367623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in a couple days, maybe. < 1474367849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj I do not recommend posting these estimates into IRC. <-- approx. 5 seconds after she actually started singing hth < 1474367849 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474367866 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a singer in this chännel? < 1474367876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, on youtube, linked by \oren\ < 1474367962 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474369022 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474369083 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474369934 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :o sole mio < 1474369949 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474369983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do re mi fa sol la ti do! < 1474370011 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello, izellove. < 1474370022 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: s/ti/si/ < 1474370026 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do ré mi fa sol la si do. < 1474370030 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1474370047 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: there are several versions of this < 1474370058 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure but they're wrong < 1474370298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, someone sanitized the topic. Now where do I put my "The opinionated channel."? I'll just let it float here, I guess. < 1474370346 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :free space for advertising < 1474370475 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net TOPIC #esoteric :The Global Hub for Esoteric Programming Language Design and Sanity | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1474370487 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :boring topics are boring < 1474370663 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooo I'm scared!!!1 "Failure to complete your site submission may result in the cancellation of this offer, making it difficult for your customers to locate you on the web." [this is a spam mail directed at domain registrant, some SEO thing maybe but it's using a surprising level of fear instead of new and shiny for selling its services... sample: http://www.uia.org/content/1346 ) < 1474370680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The Global Hub for Esoteric Programming Language Design and Sanity | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1474370687 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :hi i'm oerjan knoxville welcome to jackass < 1474370697 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course it's quite possible that they offer no service at all) < 1474370736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: don't remove the links. especially not the log links, they're mandated by freenode. < 1474370759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1474370786 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, topic golfing < 1474370803 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :fuck the sisters ehrm i mean the system < 1474370860 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1474370912 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :links available at http://goatse.info/ < 1474370915 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1474370918 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1474370923 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean that the logs are mandated by freenode? I'm on other channels without log links < 1474370924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric :+t < 1474370928 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :killjoy < 1474370946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The Global Hub for Esoteric Programming Language Design and Sanity | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1474370950 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1474370955 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're no fun at all < 1474370955 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: no, you killed that particular fun right there < 1474370984 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :goatse'ing people is pretty much universally evil and bad < 1474370995 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :we try to stay away from evil stuff here < 1474370997 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that site was dead < 1474371007 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, I'm not clicking it < 1474371036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: if the channel is publicly logged, it must be noted in the channel topic. < 1474371039 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think anyone in this channel was tech savvy enough to know that link < 1474371046 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1474371053 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought anyone in this channel was tech savvy enough to know that link < 1474371060 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay, that makes sense < 1474371108 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove, you'd hope, but that is really not at all the topic of discussion here ever and doesn't belong in a topic < 1474371117 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :but idk, I'm not an op < 1474371151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw i hadn't even noticed the goatse link when i decided i'd put +t if izalove did it _one_ more time hth < 1474371168 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no warning? < 1474371170 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think oerjan minded the link all that much... the problem was removing the other (useful, partially mandated) links even after it was explicitely stated that they should remain in the topic. < 1474371175 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what kind of mod are you? < 1474371176 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: you had plenty of warning. < 1474371181 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't think so < 1474371189 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally nobody told me to stop < 1474371194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: i believe reverting your action counts as a warning. < 1474371218 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... < 1474371238 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would it kill you to tell people "stop doing this or i'll +t"? < 1474371244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: i told you not to remove the links. < 1474371282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: sorry, i was too busy resisting the temptation to just kick hth < 1474371502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously, when you're obviously willfully irritating people getting warned is a privilege, not a right. < 1474371514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now shave -> < 1474371651 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: IMPERIAL CHICKEN < 1474373751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474374060 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474378856 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474378883 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474378887 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doot < 1474379041 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474379057 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474379145 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474379160 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474379228 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn channel is dead < 1474379234 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hides the bodys* < 1474380623 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-16rv.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474381102 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474381119 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474381120 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474381127 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474381307 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474381320 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474381374 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474381389 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474382569 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474383010 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474383452 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474384134 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474384627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniPig14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49741 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+3068) 10Created page with "'''Minipig''', or MP, is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:Challenger5]]. It is a minimalistic stack-based language that was pretty much designed in under..." < 1474384701 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1474386943 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⍝ < 1474386953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+235D APL FUNCTIONAL SYMBOL UP SHOE JOT] < 1474387827 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474387859 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:e5ea:8617:36a6:da6f JOIN :#esoteric < 1474388416 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474389428 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474390366 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474390573 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Tdjc8An5w < 1474391822 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474392404 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it was a week around the 20th or so, can't quite recall. < 1474392425 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in Italy for an offsite now. < 1474392493 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's someone new to the team starting today, must be a nice way to welcome them with everyone else in Italy having fun. < 1474392602 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474392678 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474393097 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474393634 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: where you at? < 1474393663 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a long time since I've been in Italy... coming up to a month and a half < 1474393817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I haven't been to Italy for almost two decades. < 1474393835 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you should fix that < 1474393846 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should go to Italy the next time I'm in California! < 1474393857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1474393872 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Italy is lovely < 1474393878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need to be here to give you bad Magic: The Gathering cards. < 1474393896 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Somewhere around Lake Garda. < 1474393922 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1474393924 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Near-ish Verona. < 1474393925 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to gardaland < 1474393940 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474393946 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw Gardaland, it was one of the activities for today. < 1474393970 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? why did you leave? < 1474394010 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not staying the whole day at gardaland? what kind of sick perversion is this? < 1474394012 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went on a boat trip to Isola del Garda instead. < 1474394017 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaaat < 1474394021 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're crazy < 1474394026 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I saw it from a bus, driving by. < 1474394032 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474394109 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sorry for you < 1474394160 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@sirius.46b.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1474394160 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@sirius.46b.it QUIT :Changing host < 1474394160 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474394185 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474394281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniPig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49742&oldid=49741 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+321) 10 < 1474394294 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474394308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474394324 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474394325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniPig14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49743&oldid=49742 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+0) 10Fixed the category link ~~~~ < 1474394366 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:4559:548:e104:9ad2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474394384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniPig14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49744&oldid=49743 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+0) 10Fixed the category link ~~~~ < 1474394497 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@sirius.46b.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1474394497 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@sirius.46b.it QUIT :Changing host < 1474394497 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474394988 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474395083 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@2604:a880:800:10::19e0:7001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474395083 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@2604:a880:800:10::19e0:7001 QUIT :Changing host < 1474395083 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474395878 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a list with n words. what's the complexity of finding all the words with damerau levenshtein distance at most k from a certain word? < 1474395999 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *want* to say O(n), or O(n*m) where m is the average word length, but I'm not sure < 1474396031 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n) means you can compute the distance in O(1) < 1474396121 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all the words are the same length, it'd be O(m) with constant m < 1474396131 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or O(f(m)) < 1474396148 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effectively constant, nonetheless, assuming it's only the number of words you're varying < 1474396252 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474396269 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474396307 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474396352 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474396425 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474396627 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: pretty slow if k>1, even with lots of memory and fast memoization < 1474396650 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(lots) ok < 1474396762 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been shown that the Levenshtein distance of two strings of length n cannot be computed in time O(n2 - ε) unless the strong exponential time hypothesis is false. < 1474396777 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :n^2 should be < 1474396818 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which says its like O(n*m^2) < 1474396899 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some optimizations of course, where you stop trying to find the distance as soon as it exceeds k < 1474396928 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesnt affect the worst case < 1474397228 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lets just say ive actually tried to do this on a very long list and it took days. < 1474397291 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474398309 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474398757 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474398781 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I am also getting some very sophisticated spam these days. some spammers are really upping their game. < 1474398785 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474398990 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474399021 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :khoR_ < 1474399025 0 :khoR_!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1474399125 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474399204 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i have two 20 characters strings < 1474399211 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their distance is at most 5 < 1474399225 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many characters are in the correct order? < 1474399334 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore that, it doesn't make things simpler < 1474399606 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474399725 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474400460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474400817 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1474400928 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniPig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49745&oldid=49744 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+13) 10Changed < 1474400949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniPig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49746&oldid=49745 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+0) 10 < 1474400978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Challenger514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49747&oldid=49654 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+16) 10Added by language < 1474401134 0 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474401164 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474401378 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474401748 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49748&oldid=49683 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+14) 10 < 1474401865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474402132 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474402212 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474402782 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474403647 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474403665 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474404471 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474404578 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:e5ea:8617:36a6:da6f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474404813 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474405271 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474407113 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474407815 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474407989 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474409242 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:4559:548:e104:9ad2 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1474409537 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474409575 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474409607 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474409827 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474410629 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474411635 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474412435 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1474412456 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shifting left by a negative number doesn't shift right! WHYYYYYY < 1474412647 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474412766 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc int main(){printf("%d",0xfff<<-1);} < 1474412769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2047 < 1474412800 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on wat? < 1474412809 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in gcc? < 1474412847 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in tcc that writes 0 < 1474412855 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it's undefined behavior < 1474412859 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy your nasal demons < 1474412861 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\, hellolsner. < 1474412870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`RELCOME BOILY < 1474412871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: RELCOME: not found < 1474412873 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc int main(){printf("%d",0xfff>>-1);} < 1474412874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8190 < 1474412886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLOCHAF!!! < 1474412902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome boily < 1474412903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome: not found < 1474412909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that one was defined. < 1474412916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/** < 1474412918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/echo \ bin/welcome < 1474412925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome boily < 1474412926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​boily: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1474412942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome boily < 1474412943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​boily: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1474412958 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wat < 1474412959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wat: not found < 1474412961 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wat < 1474412963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ የሚሰራ የምግብ አይነት ሲሆን፣ የሚሰራውም ከጤፍ ነው። < 1474412982 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that ethiopian or something < 1474413013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's messing up my terminal, that's for sure < 1474413018 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, amharic < 1474413043 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's mine ^^ < 1474413157 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't messing up my terminal < 1474413165 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just looks mysterious < 1474413200 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it say? < 1474413211 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first sentence of the Amharic version of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_(food) < 1474413266 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah xD < 1474413277 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wut < 1474413278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474413282 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? what < 1474413283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474413333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sooo close to figuring out what's wrong with my hangul code < 1474413373 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hangul sounds a marvellous name for a programming language. < 1474413498 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in Korea. completely surrounded by hangul everywhere. it tends to grow on you after a few days... < 1474413514 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I at least did finish the hangul jamo variants that will be used to piece together each hangul. < 1474413540 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/hangulparts.htm < 1474413542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You got a hangul tattoo? < 1474413546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Y/y/ < 1474413618 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did i? < 1474413620 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet. if I get one, it probably will be the original hangul as devised by King Sejong's court. < 1474413656 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have two variants of each vowel, one which doesn't leave room for a final, one which does. < 1474413767 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have several variants of each initial consonant < 1474413817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think there are at least two variants that need to be made, for use with horizontal vowels < 1474413891 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already have the variants for vertical, and backwards L shaped consonants < 1474413901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, vowels < 1474414072 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474414134 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome alakra < 1474414136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09alakra: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1474414343 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: IceChat - It's what Cool People use < 1474414390 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474414985 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474415172 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474415329 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474415330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474415357 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474415502 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1474415566 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474415733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1474415819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to FiveThirtyEight, 3% of US adults (a larger percentage of gun owners exclusively) account for 133M out of 265M guns (265 megaguns) < 1474415840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By my math, each one owns slightly more than 18 on average (their numbers say 17 for some reason) < 1474415849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They probably used less simplified statistics) < 1474415863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloonythedwarf_ < 1474416344 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1474416372 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to take into consideration that a lot of gun owners are likely to own multiple guns < 1474416569 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: From my knowledge of gun owners, that seems about right TBH. < 1474416579 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decent number of people are gun collectors. < 1474416607 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a friend with ~50 interesting firearms. ... And no ammunition.
< 1474416647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I want to be an ammunition collector; lots of bullets, no way to use them < 1474417575 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474417653 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SMITH CHICKEN < 1474417728 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474417743 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474417886 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474417963 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474418092 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418128 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Changing host < 1474418128 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418152 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boily has returned! < 1474418234 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418263 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474418437 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474418440 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tell boily coily! webek! < 1474418441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean "@tell boily coily! webek!" instead? < 1474418446 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474418447 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily coily! webek! < 1474418447 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474418457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks HackEgo < 1474418463 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thackego < 1474418553 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474419580 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474421815 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474422254 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474422468 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474422642 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474422967 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474423132 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474423230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474423705 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474423714 0 :mewmewmalazerbea!~mewmewmal@unaffiliated/mewmewmalazerbea JOIN :#esoteric < 1474423729 0 :mewmewmalazerbea!~mewmewmal@unaffiliated/mewmewmalazerbea PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1474423764 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474423803 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474424047 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474426835 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474427038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474427165 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1474428069 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474428126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474428744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474429285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474430097 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.saveie6.com/ < 1474430232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474432229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Should I beat wine–whine out of myself?) < 1474434211 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best I can do is write things to render tolerably in IE6. < 1474434232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq < 1474434235 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trick is to use a conditional comment and hide CSS from IE6 entirely. < 1474434279 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and acknowledge that the "no CSS whatsoever" experience is the best thing to do without going crazy) < 1474434303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flex is TG < 1474434304 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :better is to officially not support IE6 < 1474434316 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1474434323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only support CSS 8 < 1474434324 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ < 1474434338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever the current version is < 1474434360 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Though I generally agree, I still prefer having light CSS. < 1474434414 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1474434434 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said... Write it basically like that, give it a tiny CSS file (like, 1k or less TBH), prevent IE6 from seeing CSS at all, and voila. You basically support everything. < 1474434457 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the only reason to prevent IE6 from seeing CSS at all is because IE6 CSS is spectacularly broken. < 1474434590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: just add "better" to the beginning of the domain name hth < 1474434627 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bingo. < 1474436543 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474437257 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1474438718 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474439060 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474439249 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.232 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474439451 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you transfer a Pokémon to Pokémon Bank and then on to Pokémon Sun or Pokémon Moon from Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, or Pokémon Y, you’ll be unable to transfer it back to Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, or Pokémon Y." < 1474439456 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why? < 1474439560 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.207.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474439677 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474439825 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.207.169 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474440627 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ < 1474442064 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474443748 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booo < 1474444830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474444938 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474445414 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474446117 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474446373 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474446643 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474446652 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474448537 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474448812 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474449254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474450389 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1474450395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric :-t < 1474450398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1474451309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn_append shachaf He has a terminal disease. ) < 1474452036 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :goed morjnang < 1474452062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goid afternoont-e < 1474452067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1474452071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still morning < 1474452109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goid mornint-e < 1474452159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Dsching! Dsching! Dschinghis Khan! ) < 1474452241 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helleveryone < 1474452262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morneb < 1474452638 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474452659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mborningly < 1474452982 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :børjan matin! < 1474452987 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1474452987 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 9h 35m 40s ago: coily! webek! < 1474453013 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAA! I am even more unsynchronized as usual! < 1474453013 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474453345 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474454597 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474454607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :applicative functor//Applicative functors are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1474454718 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. aren't those supposed to be monads? < 1474455445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1474455446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. < 1474455448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1474455449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1474455468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *DUN DUN DUN* < 1474455535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're actually both true hth) < 1474456506 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone explain the "monads" one? < 1474456958 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cuplrits wisdom/monads < 1474456959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cuplrits: not found < 1474456965 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/monads < 1474456967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf elliott oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan shachaf Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover ais523 ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1474456983 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. I believe oerjan can hth < 1474457739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* 10New user account < 1474457851 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like it could be an actual person < 1474458087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49749&oldid=49738 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+131) 10 < 1474458157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Total Vacuum14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49750 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+21) 10Created page with "Under construction..." < 1474458323 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an actual person! < 1474458334 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1474458393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REPRODUCTIBLE CHICKEN < 1474458681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474459368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: boily believes wrong. try shachaf instead hth < 1474459388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg monads < 1474459389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 5134 \ find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -El \'(is|are) just\' | xargs rm \ revert \ revert 1 \ revert \ rm wisdom/monads \ echo \'Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras.\' > wisdom/monads \ revert \ echo \' Much like Mo < 1474459547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474461210 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474462836 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, i can define hauling destiations in my dflike and i can even limit what to put there < 1474464896 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474464904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you're finally working on hangul support? great! < 1474466511 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 76 < 1474466512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :76.00°F = 24.44°C < 1474466847 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof 24.44 < 1474466848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24.44°C = 75.99°F < 1474466852 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed < 1474466933 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof 24.44°C < 1474466934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24.44°C = 75.99°F < 1474466939 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof 24.44°F < 1474466940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24.44°C = 75.99°F < 1474467643 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1660.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474467944 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474468580 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474468725 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474468790 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474468801 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471211 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471231 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive in here? < 1474471279 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow < 1474471281 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like a zombie :/ < 1474471294 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's monday... no wait < 1474471298 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Wednesday actually < 1474471301 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474471327 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474471335 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is digin4 new? never seen him aroung < 1474471337 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*around < 1474471348 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I'm new here < 1474471354 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome digin4 < 1474471357 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks <3 < 1474471360 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09digin4: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1474471385 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o:) < 1474471393 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471394 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is kobalt off? -.- < 1474471403 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp *boots kobalt into life* < 1474471417 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print "This vetter work, its alive i hope" < 1474471418 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :​This vetter work, its alive i hope | < 1474471421 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1474471465 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474471499 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :digin4: have you made any esolangs as of now? just curious < 1474471515 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just joined to learn < 1474471520 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474471563 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well make sure to look over the wiki ^_^ < 1474471572 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking it atm :D < 1474471697 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474471868 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinking of the plausibility of writing a irc bot in befunge (With another program acting as the interface, obviously) < 1474471947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where'd fungot go? < 1474471959 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in befunge-98 without the need of another program to act as the interface < 1474471972 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge-98 probably has the best library support of any esolang < 1474471977 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that includes things like network connections < 1474472017 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1474472019 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it supports that? < 1474472022 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt know. < 1474472056 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot is down < 1474472069 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that we necessarily need it up, but I didn't know whether you knew or not) < 1474472124 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to do it anyways, just for fun < 1474472168 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :external program for irc interface because i dont want to write a entire IRC interface in befunge (aka, a pain) < 1474472246 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IRC protocol is really simpel < 1474472248 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*simple < 1474472254 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but im lazy :P < 1474472265 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus i need to learn befunge first < 1474472297 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or choose a diffrent esolang < 1474472302 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and learn that one < 1474472349 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-1762.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474473681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ? < 1474474425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474474429 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474474505 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so the first step is working: it reads in BDF characters and converts them to fixed size bitmap images in an ad-hoc format < 1474474507 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474474565 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next step is for it to grab the correct bitmap images and overlay them for each hangul character < 1474474598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then those characters must be converted back into BDF format to be inserted into the font < 1474474638 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I can figure out the whole TTF compound character thing in fontforge, which I doubt < 1474474648 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be the method I'll be using < 1474474684 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this method will result in a very large font file, but space is cheap these days so i think it will be fine < 1474474771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: they're only 16x16 images < 1474474818 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16x18 actually, but yeah small < 1474474842 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the ttf they will be converted to an outline < 1474474867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the size is linear in the number of corners < 1474474885 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you edit your glyphs, out of curiosity? < 1474474909 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use fontforge, plus some custom programs < 1474474925 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so you haven't figured out yet how to make a bitmap ttf? < 1474474934 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1474474950 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apparently some people want to make a new (more modern) font editor system instead of fontforge < 1474474962 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like that < 1474474972 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I edited my bitmap fonts in generic pixel art tools, with a little script (eventually) to convert it to BDF < 1474474997 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have to use fontforge to convert it to ttf still though < 1474475042 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, yes, unless there's other tools to convert BDF to TTF < 1474475092 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I eventually will figure out how to write my own < 1474475130 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the requirements for mine are strange since the conversion is done in a way that preserves the pixelation < 1474475151 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to most fonts which want smooth edges < 1474475177 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some black magic way of making fontforge do that < 1474475223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday I went to a talk about METAFONT. < 1474475361 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: METAFONT is h.p.lovecraft level black magic < 1474476089 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474476580 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474476706 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474476893 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474477100 0 :kline!?@? NICK :{ < 1474477130 0 :{!?@? NICK :Guest27631 < 1474477157 0 :Guest27631!?@? NICK :kline < 1474477538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1053 < 1474477548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1053: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1474477929 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479613 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474479699 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479721 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474479940 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474481002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474481026 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I lied, it's the week before. < 1474481051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which week? < 1474481073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you actually lie? < 1474481290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungone! < 1474481848 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're outta fun < 1474481853 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 fungot < 1474481854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shatbg < 1474481861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list < 1474481877 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed < 1474481902 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I heard ais523. I'll re-fungot once I get home, currently in a train from Gatwick. < 1474481933 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I answered your question the other day, when you weren't looking. < 1474482392 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474482709 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474482804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I remember that you answered the question but I don't remember the answer. < 1474482842 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474483505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬(['muffin man'.i); ?(['muffin man'].ü) ↠ ?[id];; # translates to "I do not know the muffin man. Do you know the muffin man? If so, please tell me about the muffin man." < 1474483626 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is muffin man object of id? < 1474483679 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my mental alarm for a likely race condition just went off < 1474483702 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good software development practices would imply replacing this with "I do not know the muffin man. Please tell me all you know about the muffin man." < 1474483709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 'id' in the sense used in citations < 1474483729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 'I.D.' but the word 'id' (like 'ego and superego) < 1474483746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*(like 'ego' and 'superego', but not at all related to that meaning) < 1474483753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you aren't checking for knowledge of the muffin man separately from asking about it, which means you don't have to worry about what happens if the muffin man changes status < 1474483753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I don't think there's an actual bug in this case, just a code smell < 1474483755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How so? < 1474483765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1474483779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be more efficient to just directly ask < 1474483781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: say I write "does the user have permission to read this file? if so, give the user a copy of the file" < 1474483790 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that contains a bug, and one that's been widely exploited < 1474483795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But this is designed to be a language for communication rather than a programming language < 1474483801 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the user has any ability to change the referent of "this file" mid-program (say with a symlink) < 1474483818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Primarily for talking to strong AIs) < 1474483827 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strong AIs will probably just learn English < 1474483834 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even weak AIs are decent at understanding it at this point < 1474483836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well yeah, but this is more fun < 1474483850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, even if they learn English, that still leads to confusion and ambiguity) < 1474483875 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could as well just wrote prolog, you know < 1474483882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Well yeah... < 1474483905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would also be nice for talking to people where you don't share a conventional language, because it's symbolic enough that you should be able to learn it without brute memorization < 1474483914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only issue is that things like 'muffin man' don't translate easily) < 1474483932 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's hard to express "I do not know the muffin man" in Prolog without making an explicit statement about your knowledge status, which would be weird and unidiomatic < 1474483979 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can express "My knowledge state about the muffin man is that the muffin man is unknown" in Prolog, but it looks just as weird in Prolog as it does in English < 1474483987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :&['muffin man'] = ['mulberry lane'];; < 1474483991 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would only serve as an answer to a question if the question were formulated in a similar way < 1474484026 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more idiomatic would be to make no statement about the muffin man, which in Prolog means something along the lines of "if you asked me about the muffin man, I wouldn't have anything to say" < 1474484047 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and any question about the muffin man would be replied to with an answer that meant the information was not available) < 1474484097 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, are there any fans of the language curry here? < 1474484134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simple conversation would be [2]> ?(['muffin man'].ü);; [1]> ¬(['muffin man'.i); ?(['muffin man'].ü) ↠ ?[id];; [2]> &['muffin man'] = ['mulberry lane'];; < 1474484197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, 'id' necessarily means 'the last value directly used' < 1474484214 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not really interested in hyperlegalistic conlangs < 1474484215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By definition < 1474484227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1474484249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think it's fun because it looks like what a muggle would expect talking to a computer to be like < 1474484254 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if so, why don't use it in ?() already? < 1474484291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the literal reading of "?(['cat'].ü) ↠ ?[id];;" is actually "query meaning 'cat' dependent query current user knows meaning 'cat' end < 1474484291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :") < 1474484307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ? < 1474484324 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ?([id].ü)? < 1474484343 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of mentioning muffin man there < 1474484404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, because id is- or at least was- local to the message, so that things don't constantly conflict < 1474484426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can't use 'id' to reference a value used 30 lines ago, basically) < 1474484439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh I see < 1474484442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1474484508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can actually drop the 'i' in "['muffin man'].i", too; if you just say "x." it's assumed that you mean yourself) < 1474485232 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474485252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi! < 1474485252 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'd call the lambda with the parameters in the url above. < 1474485309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: surprisingly, i don't think anyone's mentioned a url since i joined. < 1474485309 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shutting that down kills the program < 1474485342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well yes, that's usually the point of shutting down. < 1474485342 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you tasted fnord 99% cocoa chocolate? ;p it might make sense < 1474485367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: not to my knowledge, but maybe it was fnord without me noticing. < 1474485367 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're completely destroying a lot of cases where the result is a big fan of the language < 1474485392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: OKAY < 1474485417 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: burn me < 1474485417 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that is the sense that you can't already do? ( the interface to it. < 1474485431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: try again? < 1474485431 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how can anyone believe in something" stance is incredibly irritating at times, and it seems so abstract compared to c < 1474485498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so true < 1474485907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is the basis of all reality < 1474485927 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, under c is machine code < 1474485932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why so much of reality seems undefined < 1474485964 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because the machine code is unreadable < 1474486088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's because each of us runs reality through a different c compiler, with different undefined behaviors < 1474486215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474486320 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.25.165 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474486728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474487854 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm testing out a sentence in Google Translate, translating into German < 1474487867 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I write the input sentence in lowercase, it translates "you" into "Sie" < 1474487880 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I capitalise the first letter, I get "Du" as the translation instead < 1474487903 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this does not really fill me with confidence < 1474487918 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from the actual original sentence, it probably translates to "Man") < 1474487980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the first word? < 1474488009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be weird for it to consider a sentence more formal if not capitalized... < 1474488012 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you" < 1474488014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1474488025 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it struck me that if it's differentiating on that, it has it backwards < 1474488043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be precise, the original was a sentence fragment "you're likely to need a lot more characters to express something in German than you are in Japanese" < 1474488055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was using it to experiment to see how true the statement was < 1474488074 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we have a translationbot in here somewhere? < 1474488138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo used to, but the code bitrotted < 1474488157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then all networking did, i think. hm. < 1474488192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget https://www.google.com/ < 1474488193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2016-09-21 19:03:00-- https://www.google.com/ \ Resolving www.google.com (www.google.com)... failed: Name or service not known. \ wget: unable to resolve host address `www.google.com' < 1474488206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, looks dead. < 1474488222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except `fetch) < 1474488354 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474488559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Man braucht wahrscheinlich viel mehr Zeichen, um etwas in Deutsch auszudrücken, als in Japanisch. ) < 1474488589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i try to clean up and use Man < 1474488665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lapsang souchong is tg < 1474488675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm except that doesn't preserve the original duplication. < 1474488686 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474488715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man braucht wahrscheinlich viel mehr Zeichen, um etwas in Deutsch auszudrücken, als man in Japanisch braucht. < 1474488737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1474488753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably shouldn't put the last "braucht" last. < 1474488769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs a native speaker
< 1474488791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I qualify as a native speaker of any language. < 1474488800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1474488986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanta til Beate snur sin gamle plate ennå en gang, og server te med melk (Lap-sang-sou-chong!) < 1474489215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEfK-0UhTo < 1474489954 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474489983 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474490283 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491003 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491014 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1053 < 1474491015 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1053: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1474491024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's already been olisted. < 1474491048 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it? I checked the logs and didn't see it, sorry < 1474491049 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we program `olist to remember the number it's given as argument < 1474491056 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh indeed it has < 1474491061 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, you should < 1474491063 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not list if it's already seen an equal or larger number? < 1474491070 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not my list, and I'm not on it :-P < 1474491095 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is `list I think (although it's not using my original implementation any more and hasn't for years) < 1474491104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, given that i _saw_ it in the logs... < 1474491149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1474491150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date > share/conscripts; culprits share/conscripts | xargs -n 1 | awk '!x[$0]++' | xargs < 1474491167 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/conscripts < 1474491168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat May 14 12:44:55 UTC 2016 < 1474491177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know that I want it to make a commit for every olist, but it could put something in tmp/ < 1474491178 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474491179 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for a while, it seems < 1474491181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's girl genius is pretty meta. and with one avatar hauling another... < 1474491195 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: commits aren't very expensive, surely < 1474491223 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, they shouldn't be expensive in sane version control systems < 1474491228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But olists come so frequently that HackEgo might not be able to handle the load. < 1474491252 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, OOTS posts don't come that often at all < 1474491264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway they're expensive conceptually, not in terms of computer cost. < 1474491265 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a non-unique `olist wouldn't need a commit < 1474491304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tweaks ais523's joke detector
< 1474491329 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that was meant to be sarcasm? it doesn't look like it < 1474491355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was not serious. olists are very infrequent. < 1474491368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may have been a joke about HackEgo being very slow nowadays, but I'm not sure. < 1474491380 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, they're a bit more frequent these days than they used to be for a while < 1474491398 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: there was a big gap due to the author getting injured < 1474491404 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1474491415 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that, there's rarely been a gap of more than two weeks except at the end of a book (which always gives a defined date for when the comic will resume) < 1474491418 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise that < 1474491424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: HackEgo has sped up recently < 1474491428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1474491429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474491432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: True. < 1474491440 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tends to be slower if nobody's used it for a while < 1474491450 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has to swap back into memory or something < 1474491453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: even considering that. < 1474491454 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491496 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we need to use it more often to make it less slow? hmm < 1474491508 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle encouragement to use the service < 1474491511 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1474491660 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474491662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3312 , has the cop chosen this bar because she's got dimmers installed there so she can dim the lights when she says something dramatic, just like Tarquin does in his palacE? < 1474491675 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474491843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a smokebomb pie? < 1474491853 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, three slices of smokebomb, one of edible pie. < 1474492200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474492865 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474492887 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474492903 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1474492918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome tuttobene < 1474492920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06tuttobene: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1474492929 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474493010 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474493115 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When writing research papers about programming, does a manual of writing mechanics for this field exist, such as the APA Manual of Style in the field of Psychology? < 1474493141 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used anything like that, I've just tried to imitate the style of typical papers < 1474493160 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea, I don't write such papers. < 1474493163 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most programming papers are conference papers anyway rather than journal papers, so people hold them to a slightly lower standard due to the need to make deadlines being larger < 1474493347 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thanks < 1474493377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I write papers? < 1474493386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never done it. < 1474493393 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1474493403 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474493405 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you need it for a degree or something < 1474493473 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just code? < 1474493509 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-phozfbxvsmqxbxei JOIN :#esoteric < 1474493584 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the need to write papers comes when something has to be explained < 1474493603 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a technique, or a concept < 1474493788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474494037 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474494045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474494284 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-jsabvatttxsiyquj QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474494545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495093 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Patching... < 1474495388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495459 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points local irssi users at the recent global notice
< 1474495520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm now my backscroll is working strangely, only half the window scrolls... < 1474495541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and my line overwrote FireFly's :( < 1474495559 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's okay, I rarely say anything of importance anyway < 1474495587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this bandaid patch is horribly buggy. < 1474495591 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you just did, though < 1474495610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not of importance to oerjan, though. < 1474495634 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474495664 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The better alternative would probably be to upgrade, of course < 1474495678 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :over applying the hacky patch < 1474495680 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474495764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i don't control this server. < 1474495770 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474495812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing < 1474495843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474495844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. his reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1474495946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1474496026 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anything in the wisdom database? < 1474496061 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ycwlxoiivcczgbyz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474496075 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474496395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Trying something... < 1474496436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474496448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing again < 1474496481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic, the problem doesn't appear if i don't use tmux. < 1474496576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1474496576 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474496579 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474496592 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I just pulled Debian's security update... (cf. https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2016/msg00251.html ) < 1474496685 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying to figure out whether oerjan is connected to irssi-0.8.20 in screen somehow, wondering whether this combination should be avoided.
< 1474496761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm still on 0.8.17, using the bandaid script < 1474496774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not in screen either. < 1474496779 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1474496791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gave me trouble in tmux. < 1474496814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH, I missed a negation there, funny how that totally distorts the meaning of sentences... < 1474496907 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this negation: "[...] if i don't use tmux.") < 1474497062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION found the irc channel for the admins of this server. they seem a bit idle.
< 1474497087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the one i'm running irssi from) < 1474497111 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any idlerpg bot running? :P < 1474497125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1474497151 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://idlerpg.net/ < 1474497180 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise it had a website < 1474497184 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474497212 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also seems a lot more involved than the typical idling competitions < 1474497282 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474497318 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474497329 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't < 1474497384 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: to clarify, I meant to ask oerjan whether there is such a bot in that channel he found. < 1474497421 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474497553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it. i'm the only one speaking. someone (who is also idle) opped me automatically when i joined. < 1474497595 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, idlerpg gives a much larger penalty for parts than for quits < 1474497599 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bizarre < 1474497640 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474497720 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has this been mentioned in the channel yet?: http://calesyta.xyz/ < 1474497725 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to proggit, it's an Argentinian esolang design contest < 1474497739 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Concurso Argentino de Lenguajes Esotéricos y Tarpits", right does seem like one… < 1474497780 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /part is almost definitely a manual action; quits also happen due to disconnects, reboots, etc. < 1474497811 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Valoramos que el lenguaje tenga ideas novedosas o interesantes. A nadie le interesa otra variante de Brainf*ck." < 1474497819 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but not getting disconnected is the whole point of idling competitions < 1474497889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :P < 1474497901 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474497922 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the people running this seem fairly familiar with esolang design :-D < 1474497950 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I guess parting a channel sends a much stronger message than quitting... not sure it's really saying as much as 200 characters of text though ;-) < 1474497986 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fit way more than 200 characters in a part message (or a quit message, for that matter) < 1474497990 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I really recall IdleRPG it because, as you said, it is surprisingly elaborate for an idling game. < 1474498009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it// < 1474498017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IdleMMORPG < 1474498019 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION typos too much, good night.
< 1474498144 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474498264 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474498728 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474498931 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474499053 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474499082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474499223 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474499477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49751 5* 03Tanner Swett 5* (+3677) 10Create page < 1474499507 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474500009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49752&oldid=42677 5* 03Tanner Swett 5* (+449) 10/* Related languages */ Add "SMETANA To Infinity!" < 1474500040 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ͲhΞ g׀ǐČħ ϸ®ʘǵrҿssEs < 1474500706 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I've created SMETANA To Infinity! < 1474500707 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474500871 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number < 1474500890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474500938 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like SMETANA, but you can specify infinitely many instructions. < 1474500981 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an example program: < 1474501006 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step n. Go to step 3n + 1. Step 2n. Go to step n. Step 1. Go to step 1000000. Step 4. Stop. < 1474501145 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it choose the most specific step or how does it choose between Step 2n and Step n? < 1474501189 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It chooses whichever one was specified last within the program. < 1474501204 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Step 2n was specified later, it overwrites Step n for even n. < 1474501247 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Collatz conjecture is equivalent to the statement that my example halts if you replace 1000000 with any positive integer. < 1474501302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i claim approximate plagiarism hth < 1474501333 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i posted something called SMETANA+1 way back on the sange.fi mailing list) < 1474501376 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's so long ago it probably never happened < 1474501388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats olsner -----###
< 1474501491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474501500 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how swatful of you < 1474501552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is there any way to make a good fizzbuzz with this using "step 3n", "step 5n"? < 1474501581 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda. < 1474501618 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step n. Output character n. Step 3n. Output character 101. Step 5n. Output character 102. Step 15n. Output character 103. Step 101. Stop. < 1474501647 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do a little better than that. < 1474501661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think my version required step expressions to be non-overlapping, though. < 1474501778 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step n. Swap step 1 with step 1. Step 2n. Output character n. Step 10n. Output character 102. Step 6n. Output character 101. Step 30n+1. Output character 102. Step 201. Stop. < 1474501780 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1474502479 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474502547 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474502846 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it strikes me that a decimal conversion function would be fairly hard in that language < 1474502877 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474503091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suddenly realized you can do collatz functions with just GOTO there < 1474503115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that back in 2002 or when it was, i thought SWAP was necessary for TC-ness of it. < 1474503211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i had a version with more elaborate labels that even then i realized needed only GOTO) < 1474503317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the admin upgraded irssi on some of the servers, but not this one yet for some reason. going to bed -> < 1474503338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474504190 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504243 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474504248 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504263 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474504303 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504308 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504512 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504533 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504578 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474504589 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474504650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\.$/ and rejecting scientific papers./' wisdom/peer < 1474504654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474504659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474504660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. his reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections and rejecting scientific papers. < 1474504668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474504850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just copy the joke at the beginning of the sentence < 1474506030 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474506264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh. < 1474506294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must have been added at some point < 1474506307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474506321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474506322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474506323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. his reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1474506346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe we mention how e serves on US juries as well?) < 1474506354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what someone can do is fix the awkward grammar < 1474506371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you don't need to stuff every flavor of ice cream into one cone. < 1474506378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/his/His/' wisdom/peer < 1474506381 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine... < 1474506381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474506388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peer < 1474506389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. His reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections. < 1474506420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474506422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474506435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wisdom entry is lowercase on purpose. < 1474506441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did I miss something? < 1474506443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1474506461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for the obvious pun to set in
< 1474506468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For ambiguity. < 1474506478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a discussion when oerjan first added it. < 1474506483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg peer | tac < 1474506484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-06-11 learn peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people\'s irc connections. \ 2016-09-15 slwd peer//s#.#. his reviews are in high demand, but# \ 2016-09-15 revert \ 2016-09-15 slwd peer//s#\\.#. his reviews are in high demand, but# \ 2016-09-21 ` s < 1474506541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are like an elephant in a china shop < 1474506559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH, is 'his' short for something? Probably "Health Information Service"? < 1474506569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Elephants wish they were this clumsy. < 1474506634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate reading IRC logs of myself. < 1474507071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Vrejvax14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49753&oldid=31396 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */ deadlink < 1474508254 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever I try a code line that fails, then another one which fails, and so on, I comment those lines with a label "N/G". And I keep those lines; so as to know what not to try again. Thus my source file is not "clean"---but it's hella powerful for maintenance/refactoring. < 1474508313 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1474508670 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuttobene: I don't think I've heard of that practice before. < 1474508744 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like rather than saying "I tried doing A, B, and C all together, and the combination didn't work", it would be more useful to say "do not do B, because that won't work". < 1474508776 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. From Don Knuth, if i remember correctly, idea of Literary programming. < 1474508889 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I'm pondering how you could convert 1-bit Brainfuck to SMETANA To Infinity!. < 1474508919 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes me do that is usually poorly written documentation. Because the only way to solve an ambiguity of definitions is to try the meanings of the thing. < 1474508943 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuttobene: literate programming? I think it's about interspersing a program with prose describing it < 1474508980 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, "Literate" programming < 1474508986 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC supports .lhs files where only programs starting with > (IIRC) are actually interpreted.. so basically the default mode is "comment" and you have to opt-in for code, rather than the other way around < 1474509015 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh ... the man was a genius < 1474509034 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :still is < 1474509043 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474509096 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinkin' you'd use the first part of memory to contain the BF program, and the remainder to contain the tape. Each tape cell would be realized as a few STI! memory cells. < 1474509125 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could keep track of the content using a couple of instructions like this: < 1474509158 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1000. Go to step 1. Step 1001. Go to step 2. < 1474509163 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to flip the memory cell, that's: < 1474509172 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1002. Swap step 1000 with step 1001. < 1474509201 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: doesn't that only let you flip a specific, hardcoded cell? rather than being able to index? < 1474509232 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, memory location 1002 will be only for flipping that one cell. < 1474509241 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to flip the cell at 2000, then jump to 2002 instead. < 1474509267 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474509303 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we could say... < 1474509315 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1474509321 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 3 always contains an instruction that means "Go to step [whichever one flips the current cell]". < 1474509333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm heavily reminded of The Amnesiac From Minsk < 1474509339 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 4 always says "Go to step [whichever one moves us left]", step 5 always says "go to step [whichever one moves us right]". < 1474509347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the basic issue is that once you've flipped a cell, you lose track of where you were < 1474509350 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474509365 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course you can work around this via holding the state that keeps track of the instruction pointer elsewhere < 1474509398 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And each BF tape cell contains code to swap something else into all of those places. < 1474509454 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474509477 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steps 1003, 1004, and 1005 could be the "storage locations" for the steps that are intended to be placed at locations 3, 4, and 5. < 1474509543 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1006 can be the "entry point" for flipping the current cell. It will look like... "Step 1006. Swap step 1000 with step 1001. Step 1007. Go to step 6." < 1474509597 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can say that step 6 is sort of the standard return location. < 1474509708 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with BF? < 1474509718 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If step 1008 is the entry point for moving right, it'll say something like... "Step 1008. Swap step 3 with step 1003. Step 1009. Swap step 2003 with step 3. Step 1010. Swap step 4 with step 1004. Step 1011. Swap step 2004 with step 4. Step 1012. Swap step 5 with step 1005. Step 1013. Swap step 2005 with step 5. Step 1014. Go to step 6." < 1474509729 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474509739 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuttobene: who said there was something wrong with it? < 1474509775 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1474509862 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1015 will be the entry point for moving left, and steps 1015 through 1021 will be analogous. But ignore the fact that the tape cell at step 1000 is the leftmost one... < 1474510131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see 'this statement is a lie' Fawlty Tower plotted < 1474510164 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474511072 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474511089 0 :moon__!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474511097 0 :64MAAZPA1!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474511170 0 :moonythedwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Changing host < 1474511170 0 :moonythedwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474511173 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrfgccrrobuvccxi QUIT : < 1474512603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!/brainfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49754 5* 03Tanner Swett 5* (+4378) 10Created page with "A tape of 1-bit memory cells can be implemented like this: # We assume that steps 1 through 6 are laid out like this: # # 1 through 3: The desired return location for an o..." < 1474513024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Calesyta 5* 10New user account < 1474513125 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it's the people behind the esolang contest < 1474513193 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine that. < 1474513221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale syta < 1474514216 0 :the-manless-man!~the-manle@181.23.56.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474514558 0 :moonythedwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474514584 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474515066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474515328 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474518251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474518485 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new isp blocks thepiratebay and a bunch of torrent related sites but i can still seed and download torrents < 1474518519 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somewhat harder to block BitTorrent itself. < 1474518547 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not impossible, but you need to do traffic analysis rather than just block some hosts or IP addresses. < 1474518724 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless10.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474518953 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474519952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should watch Growing a Language... < 1474519963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Which ISP do you have? < 1474519968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What country?) < 1474519969 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1474519971 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italy < 1474519974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474519983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your country's freedom laws are terrible < 1474519988 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're fine < 1474519992 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my isp sucks < 1474519996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ISPs should never, EVER be allowed to filter internet) < 1474520007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: The fact that the ISP can legally do that indicates a problem < 1474520044 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, but it's pretty common. < 1474520069 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can at least understand it with blocking port 25, though. < 1474520456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ahvzDzKdB0 (the talk where Guy Steele only let himself use 1-syllable words and n-syllable words defined in terms of previous words) < 1474520495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say he slipped up, then I remembered he defined plurals earlier < 1474520868 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.32.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474520922 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-phozfbxvsmqxbxei QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474521037 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.32.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474521571 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless10.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474524044 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474524085 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474524331 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474525063 0 :the-manless-man!~the-manle@181.23.56.184 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474526678 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474527058 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just found the best subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/PaidForWinRAR/ < 1474527181 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i was overly excited by the name but the actual posts aren't that funny < 1474527298 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474527541 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474527718 0 :64MAAZPA1!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474527939 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwiFl6w5fUE < 1474528060 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish vocals in a touhou song? what sorcery is this? < 1474528116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray for global cultural mixing! < 1474528473 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-evrtmpglxhzgalbw QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474528492 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xyvyojwchbbfdxnb JOIN :#esoteric < 1474528775 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@171.6.248.195 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474529377 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474529887 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474530282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have yet to encounter at my high school... in fact, I haven't encountered ANY students at school with any /semblance/ of power or even prestige) < 1474530478 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out real life is boring < 1474530524 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474530552 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474530926 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could someone show me what Unicode U+2055 character looks like in your system? < 1474530978 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁕ looks like an asterisk in my browser, and a replacement character in my terminal. < 1474531059 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacement char? something like a dash? < 1474531089 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, like U+FFFD < 1474531409 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. I get the asterisk in Gnome char mapper, but a dash in Vim. I think the problem is the font i use in Vim. < 1474531431 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DejaVu Sans Mono < 1474531572 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC seems ok: U+2055 ⁕ < 1474532598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474533901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474533967 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have that in my font < 1474533978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a eight pointed asterisk < 1474534302 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474534510 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474534598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I can't draw the correct character for U+2673 in 9x16, so I'm gonna draw it as プラ１ < 1474536378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474536863 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474536883 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:d80e:def1:3521:4056 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474539299 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 QUIT : < 1474543001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474543653 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474543660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1474543859 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1474544149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49755&oldid=49751 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+205) 10/* Computational class */ Thought of this yesterday. < 1474547089 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PROTECTED CHICKEN < 1474550499 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474551264 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474551661 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474551951 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474553223 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474553499 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474553593 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474555472 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474556614 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Quit: My microwave oven blew the fuse < 1474556652 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1474557055 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474557363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474559726 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474560223 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474560391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474561580 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474562200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 7,31,19,25,22,47,23,35,29 < 1474562201 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1474562324 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474562853 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474562869 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474563130 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474563674 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474563782 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474563788 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, \oren < 1474563794 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1474563798 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, \oren\ < 1474563832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the hangul glyphs in your font coming along? < 1474564035 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot back yet? < 1474564035 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: and what a kludgy hacks those were. mohkale sent me a fnord < 1474564054 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: WHAT? you call them kludgy hacks? < 1474564055 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: as opposed to a list of lists like ( ( a d) is not exactly a cml manual, but it < 1474564058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they weren't that bad < 1474564125 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"((a d)" does look like the start of a list of lists, but it was never finished < 1474564437 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, close that list < 1474564438 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: seems to be also noticeably slower than the native back end, was at transmeta and completely disconnected from scheme for several years despite having properly paid work too. < 1474564457 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :transmeta? < 1474564472 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where linus worked < 1474564509 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but how does that get in this fungot theme? < 1474564510 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: for an example. named-let replaces the need for lambda i am bit lost on how it was put up, i get down to bickering about do versus named let versus whatever else for the newton because dylan didn't fit right at the beginning < 1474564510 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were a CPU manufacturer, and wanted Linux to do well < 1474564524 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it would mean that there's be no particular reason not to switch your computer to a Transmeta CPU < 1474564550 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while Windows is the #1 OS, it gives something of an advantage to Intel and to a lesser extent AMD, making it harder for other CPU manufacturers to compete < 1474564637 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the part that making modern cpus is incredibly difficult and requires a lot of development cost paid up front before they can sell anything so only the largest companies can do it might also be part of it < 1474564710 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after a while everyone but intel and amd gave up making hardware x86 cpus, and amd is having a hard time catching up now too, intel might get the monopoly < 1474565017 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474565199 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: #scheme, 2006-12-27: Guillermo Rozas, who revived the C back end, was at Transmeta and completely disconnected from Scheme for several years. < 1474565247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: heh < 1474565253 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's where that's from < 1474566081 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHReqKRvonE you need to watch this video < 1474566566 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RRGH < 1474566626 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai \oren\, how's the hangul font coming? < 1474566649 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiots. the thing you stand on is a podium, from "pod" = foot. the thing you read your notes from is a lectern from "lectura" = read < 1474566682 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but noooo apparently americans call a lectern a podium < 1474566693 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it so upsetting? < 1474566705 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? would they really do that? < 1474566727 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost like calling diapers nappies < 1474566739 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or calling underwear pants < 1474566756 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's sort of working. I still need to convert back from my ad-hoc bitmap format to BDF < 1474566782 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1474566784 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shouldn't be hard < 1474566801 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the ad-hoc bitmap format is simply an array of 16 unsigneds, one for each row of pixels) < 1474566832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think I'll have it done by midnight today < 1474566835 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, then you don't even need to transpose < 1474566856 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just print it as hexadecimal and put some headers on it < 1474566863 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly reverse the bits or nibbles or bytes < 1474566867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially yes < 1474566893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard part was designeing the various forms for each jamo < 1474566898 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1474566902 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1474566916 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16x16 is just so small for this < 1474567052 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I'm using different line widths depending on what fits < 1474567070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might change to only thin lines, if that looks better < 1474567366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone calls a lift an "elevator", I'll find out if "overuse of description" is a crime. < 1474567421 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't "elevator" just the en_US name for them? < 1474567473 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, true. < 1474567712 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :cool, i can change the topic again | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1474567794 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh shiyut! Brian Pagliano, the guy who refused to come to a hearing, was held in contempt of congress. < 1474567824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he could serve jailtime for that < 1474567833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474567842 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1474567849 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"held in contempt of congress"? < 1474567865 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: he was served a subpoena to come and testify, but refused to show up < 1474567881 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is itself a crime < 1474567884 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474567890 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1474567899 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they call that "held in contempt of congress"? < 1474567904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "congress" even mean there? < 1474567939 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the hearing was before the House of Representatives, that is, the lower house of their parliament which they call "congress" < 1474567954 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474567962 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was summoned to the congress? < 1474567963 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1474567979 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, they wanted to ask him about erasing Hillary's emails < 1474568031 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're really driving the issue into the bedrock < 1474568037 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: source? I'd expect this to be all over Reddit because it's the sort of story they love, but I can't see it anywhere on the relevant front pages < 1474568059 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I watched them vote to fdo it about an hour ago < 1474568083 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivw1BDLpdaw < 1474568089 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdo? is that another extension of the monad do syntax? < 1474568092 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, the media probably haven't had a chance to write about it yet < 1474568112 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're faster than news sites here on #esoteric? no way < 1474568117 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, come on < 1474568121 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's almost completely offtopic < 1474568126 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also surprising < 1474568129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. i have an alert that tells me when the house is streaming on youtube < 1474568147 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd expect him to turn up and take the fifth repeatedly, given things that have happened so ar < 1474568149 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474568156 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I can see their governement tear itself apart in real time < 1474568169 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*far < 1474568186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately this probably raises the chances of Trump getting elected < 1474568191 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: two other people did show up and take the fifth repeatedly < 1474568224 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't even bother showing up, and sent a lawyer to say that he was taking the fifth. < 1474568243 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really something you're allowed to do unfortunately for him < 1474568263 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't the lawyer tell him that? < 1474568277 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, seriously, ignoring a summons to congress? how can he be that stupid? < 1474568287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he have so much money he's planning to disappear completely? < 1474568335 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they subpoena'ed the FBI last week. I think this is a show of power to tell the FBI that they can and will hold the entire FBI in contempt if necessary < 1474568365 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they asked to FBI for every scrap of paper they have on hillary clinton < 1474568388 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1474568393 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be a lot of papers < 1474568398 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1474568429 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were mad that the FBI only gave them some select documents that they thought would help < 1474568472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congress is Republican-controlled, right? they're probably looking for a scandal about hillary that they can use to help them win the election < 1474568473 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the FBI blacked out a bunch of names and emails from the files, which they werent suppose to < 1474568479 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1474568544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this entire thing is to undermine hillary, and they will probably continue to do it even if she wins < 1474568569 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1474568579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how politics always works < 1474568583 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said I want to watch the US governement tear itself apart in real time. because it's funny < 1474568618 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not funny < 1474568633 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny to me! I have a sane government < 1474568658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still not funny. it might have bad effects. < 1474568676 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately the US is large enough that it affects the world < 1474568686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1474568692 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1474568696 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the nethack devteam we're seriously debating whether US crypto export regulations prevent us using a good RNG < 1474568728 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haven't they changed those crypto export regulations five or ten years ago? < 1474568739 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes but they still aren't entirely removed < 1474568749 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with open source programs you're meant to send them a link to the repo, I think < 1474568758 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474568787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed source has tighter restrictions < 1474568788 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the limitation now only that you can't export anything to north korea and cuba and iran and whoever they think of embargoing, regardless of whether cryptography is even involved? < 1474568795 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1474568812 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently even the UK has a crypto export restriction, I can't remember the exact details < 1474568818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it's less restrictive than the US's < 1474568856 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep your server IN cuba, problem solved < 1474568857 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474568870 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the people with AES tattoos still can't travel on international airplanes? < 1474568883 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no good, then you still can't export to north korea < 1474568884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no laws about IMPORTing crypto FROM cuba right? < 1474568891 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I say keep your server in north korea instead < 1474568895 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no < 1474568896 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly sure how you can get an AES tattoo < 1474568897 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't work either < 1474568898 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be painful < 1474568907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of code < 1474568931 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think the US doesn't allow that either < 1474568939 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it does, I dunno < 1474568994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, this is news to me < 1474569003 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the US stopped with that thing < 1474569021 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, debian stopped having a separate repository for a version of debian with the crypto stuff stripped ages ago < 1474569055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, everybody who wants crypto will get crypto anyway < 1474569062 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: http://www.cryptolaw.org/cls2.htm#us < 1474569063 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like export restrictions actually mean anything < 1474569093 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that part isn't the problem < 1474569145 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling that the problem is that although if you exported crypto illegally you'd be fine, if another company's lawyers knew your company was exporting crypto, they'd get annoyed and make a fuss < 1474569160 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unrestricted crypto source code (like most "open source" software) and publicly available commercial source code (like "community source" code) can be exported to any end-user under a license exception without a technical review. BXA (BIS) must be given a copy or the URL of the source code. All other source code can be exported under license exception after a technial review to any non-government end-user. One may not, however, knowlingly export < 1474569162 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source code to a terrorist country, although source code may be posted on the WWW for downloading without the poster having to check whether it is downloaded from a terrorist country." < 1474569219 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, basically, they're marking off countries and saying they're "terrorist countries"? < 1474569237 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know where Trump got his lines from. < 1474569274 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just say "We are at war with country X, and we intend to take the land and add an extra state to America if we win." < 1474569315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is probably a bad idea for several reasons.) < 1474569378 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: by "terrorist coutry" they mean the countries where the terrorists buy military equipment from Russia, not from the US, so the US is pissed and sets embargoes against them so they can't buy weapons from the US later either. < 1474569743 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474569864 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On 7 January 2011, a minor amendment was made to the EAR (Federal Register Vol. 76, No. 5, p. 1059). Publicly available mass-market encryption object code software (with symmetric key length exceeding 64 bits), and publicly available encryption object code of which the corresponding source code falls under License Exception TSU (i.e., when the source code is publicly available), are no longer subject to the EAR. The amendment includes some minor < 1474569865 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specific revisions." < 1474569871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, /that/ seems like it's usable for NetHack < 1474570017 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm < 1474570020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the actual law behind it now, and it's confusing < 1474570122 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: he didn'tsay he'd take the land, just the oil under it. but it amounts to the same thing < 1474570225 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Europe probably still has stupid agreements remaining from the world war 2 peace treaties limiting producing weapons, and since back in the world war, armies actually used cryptography in wars, maybe it covers crypto stuff too < 1474570275 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: most of Europe uses the Wassenaar Arrangement < 1474570283 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is about things that have both civilian and military purposes < 1474570309 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: could you tell me what the connection to nethack is? < 1474570313 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"things that have both civilian and miliatry purposes" => that's about most things in the world < 1474570339 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ais523 distributes a cryptographic random generator with nethack4. < 1474570345 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: a random number generator can be used as a stream cipher, or vice versa < 1474570355 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's in the devteam now < 1474570360 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to remove various RNG exploits, the RNG needs to be powerful enough that it makes for a fairly good stream cipher < 1474570365 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1474570384 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, in fact, using an /actual/ stream cipher is probably better than trying to design one manually < 1474570397 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently when someon is held in contempt, they have the option to order the sergeant at arms to drag the person to the capitol in chains < 1474570423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this hasn't been done since 1937 but they could do it tomorrow if they wanted < 1474570425 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. and you can't just use a crypto random generator from the system libraries because DOS doesn't have one and nethack wants to ... no wait < 1474570426 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, in the UK it's spelled serjeant at arms for some reason (even though "serjeant" is not a real word in any other context) < 1474570441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they normally do nothing, but one time a protester broke into the house of commons < 1474570446 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have to go through a coury in that case < 1474570451 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the serjeant at arms actually drew his sword on the protester < 1474570459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can just vote to jail the guy < 1474570459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that sounds awesome < 1474570470 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think that he'd been waiting for years for that opportunity < 1474570485 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada's sergeant at arms shot a terrorist a while ago < 1474570498 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kevin vickers < 1474570536 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Texck-TbkM < 1474570553 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GofES3-TzJw <- better video < 1474570620 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trigger wrning: steven colbert < 1474570677 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on another point, what should i add to the df like after hauling and a workshop system works fine? i will add the concept of rooms next, but i have no clear line after that < 1474570693 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when this channel wasn't about politics? those were good times... < 1474570713 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474570719 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.28.32 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474570758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Some sort of device that counts the other devices directly adjacent to it (horizontally, diagonally and vertically), < 1474570772 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: what for? < 1474570773 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: add pots and barrels and other containers < 1474570782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: this channel is very rarely about esolangs, unfortunately < 1474570785 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer it when it is though < 1474570804 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have barrels and you can brew with seeds (because of lack of plants :D) < 1474570808 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point, I don't really feel comfortable declaring anything in particular offtopic unless it's problematic for another reason, because it's hard to deduce what the topic of the channel even /is/ < 1474570809 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the amount is less than 2, the device should self-destruct, if the amount is more than 3, it should self-destruct, and if there is a space in the area with exactly 3 neighbors, < 1474570816 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should create a new device there. < 1474570843 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: i see what you did there < 1474570844 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just copied from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life ) < 1474570847 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that sounds more like a good behaviour for a monster < 1474570851 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, ais523: about dragging in chains or pulling the sword, https://stickman.qntm.org/comics.php?n=622 is relevant < 1474570853 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: people who put random game of life impls into their sandbox games normally don't have a large enough playfield to do anything much more interesting than a glider gun < 1474570854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: but that would probably be abused < 1474570875 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But for a df-like? < 1474570878 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474570896 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even have a wannebe dwarf therapist inside < 1474570897 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how large is the actively tracked portion of the world? < 1474570910 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monster that can't move, but simulates a cellular automaton would be fun < 1474570952 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captain! We're being attacked by a wild glider! < 1474570967 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently my levels are 60x80, i am.not sure how high i should put it < 1474570968 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally there would be several species having different rules < 1474570980 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ressources are kind of a concern in smartphones < 1474571013 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's pentominoized the right LWSS forward transferral system!) < 1474571014 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will get tricky when i come to actual monsters < 1474571025 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i don't reallygot army in df :D < 1474571043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I've wanted to create a competitive game set inside the Game of Life universe for a while < 1474571048 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but couldn't figure out a good way to do it < 1474571059 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cubicon comes closer; that's more of an MMO set inside a cellular automaton < 1474571079 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is cubicon < 1474571095 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm still not entirely sure the rules are right (especially wrt things like whether there should be a speed of light limit), and I have no clue how to impl it < 1474571106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: a 3D cellular-automaton-like I was working on < 1474571114 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474571117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know most of the basic rules but there are various interactions I'm not sure on how they should work < 1474571124 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474571138 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all cellular automatons have a speed of light limit, don't they? < 1474571141 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just might be higher < 1474571159 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I said cellular-automaton-like < 1474571225 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I was considering was making it into a true automaton < 1474571225 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still need someone to make graphics for me :( < 1474571229 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that might make it a bit less realistic < 1474571368 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474571560 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: try using a DF-like ascii art for now < 1474571592 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually try to make it usable :D < 1474571818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Items may be controlled as encryption items even if the encryption is actually performed by the operating system, an external library, a third-party product or a cryptographic processor. If an item uses encryption functionality, whether or not the code that performs the encryption is included with the item, then BIS evaluates the item based on the encryption functionality it uses." < 1474571820 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1474571861 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's at least consistent, it bites backwards too < 1474571876 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474571897 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this means that a huge proportion of software can't legally be exported from the US without a license < 1474571900 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "and that export of non-key recovery financial-specific cryptography is allowed if it can by design only be used for financial applications" < 1474571921 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you even imagine cryptography designed to only be used for financial applications? < 1474571941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ship it in object code form with a financial application < 1474571943 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be like guns designed only for sport or only for hunting deer < 1474571957 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIS seems to assume that nobody will decompile or modify the products that are shipped < 1474572050 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like they care for the end products, not the algorithm < 1474572067 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's how it worked, then nethack probably wouldn't be affected, because it's clearly not designed to do cryptography < 1474572079 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean what crazy esolanger would use nethack to implement a cryptography application? < 1474572104 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be like using TeX to implement one < 1474572109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Software A writes to a file system. That file system might be encrypted..." < 1474572115 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) The primary function or set of functions is not any of the following: (1) "Information security"; (2) A computer, including operating systems, parts and components therefor; (3) Sending, receiving or storing information (except in support of entertainment, mass commercial broadcasts, digital rights management or medical records management); or (4) Networking (includes operation, administration, management and < 1474572117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :provisioning); (b) The cryptographic functionality is limited to supporting their primary function or set of functions; and (c) When necessary, details of the items are accessible and will be provided, upon request, to the appropriate authority in the exporter’s country in order to ascertain compliance with conditions described in paragraphs (a) and (b) above. < 1474572163 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the relevant exemption, but NetHack may fall afoul of (a)(2) and possibly (c) < 1474572193 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "limited to supporting" mean? < 1474572198 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you limit cryptography? < 1474572222 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me, I didn't write that rule! < 1474572229 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think the rule is fairly incomprehensible < 1474572239 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1474573037 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474573230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/smlist | rot13 < 1474573240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ funpuns \ zbadl \ ryyvbgg \ zabdl < 1474573249 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474573264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: If you want to sign up for super mega notifications, you can `` echo Cale >> bin/smlist < 1474573293 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns :D < 1474573317 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Cale >> bin/smlist < 1474573320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474573349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly olist for oots notifications and so on < 1474573352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*list* < 1474573353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/aglist \ bin/bardsworthlist \ bin/danddreclist \ bin/dontaskdonttelllist \ bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist \ bin/ehlist \ bin/emptylist \ bin/erflist \ bin/FireFlist \ bin/flist \ bin/idealist \ bin/ioccclist \ bin/keenlist \ bin/list \ bin/listen \ bin/listlist \ bin/llist \ bin/makelist \ bin/makelistlist \ bin/makelistlist shachaf \ bin/minimalist < 1474573366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot more entries than i expected < 1474573382 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minima-list < 1474573390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: You might chet out `list < 1474573395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty good. < 1474573396 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm really curious as to what the listlist is < 1474573411 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you almost baited me into starting a line with `list then :-P < 1474573429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? listlist < 1474573431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :listlist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474573441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin, not wisdom < 1474573441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a notification list for when people add new lists maybe? < 1474573453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but some lists have wisdom entries to match describing what they are. < 1474573458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/listlist < 1474573459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ set -e \ export LANG=C \ cd /hackenv/bin;exec ls -dF *[lL]ist* < 1474573470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just a list of lists. < 1474573475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listlist < 1474573476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist* \ aglist* \ bardsworthlist* \ danddreclist* \ don'taskdon'ttelllist@ \ dontaskdonttelllist* \ ehlist* \ emptylist* \ erflist* \ flist* \ idealist* \ ioccclist* \ keenlist* \ list* \ listen* \ listlist* \ llist* \ makelist* \ makelistlist* \ makelistlist shachaf* \ minimalist* \ mlist* \ olist* \ pbflist* \ slist* \ smlist* \ stylist* \ t < 1474573494 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you expect it to be? < 1474573507 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:44 I think it was a notification list for when people add new lists maybe? < 1474573514 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists < 1474573554 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised that that page can reasonably be considered Wikipedia's index < 1474573571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/makelistlist shachaf < 1474573573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-14 makelist makelistlist shachaf < 1474573584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/makelistlist < 1474573585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ shachaf < 1474573586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/makelistlist shachaf < 1474573587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit < 1474573594 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way. Wikipedia's index is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages < 1474573594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/makelistlist shachaf < 1474573598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474573610 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well I guess it is in alphabetical order… < 1474573617 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Special:PrefixIndex has "index" in its name < 1474573630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz (who isn't in this channel anymore, I guess) once added https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Self-reference to itself < 1474573636 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AllPages has a better interface than PrefixIndex < 1474573637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the edit got reverted. < 1474573639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, allpages is conceptually a special case of prefixindex, I'm not sure why it exists a separate page < 1474573642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems illegitimate to me. < 1474573654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: better interface < 1474573676 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can type a place to start to allpages, but it doesn't cut off after that prefix < 1474573886 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fungot t-shirt arrived! < 1474573886 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: freebsd env wc -c says so :p. google did indeed have sufficient context < 1474574000 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although admittedly, AllPages has a very stupid bug that PrefixIndex doesn't: if you invoke AllPages with a prefix after a slash like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages/t then trying to use the form to choose a different prefix fails in a confusing way. < 1474574058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, you can't use PrefixIndex to start listing from a given word and continue after that prefix < 1474574061 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sucks < 1474574067 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so AllPages is definitely better < 1474574077 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: t-shirt? < 1474574086 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I got this freebie custom t-shirt code from a thing, so I made one that has fungot's babble-generation code and an esolangs.org ad on it. < 1474574087 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, a bf program that could deal with the win32 registry? " nice" multiline fnord hugging/ ascii art scripts. :p fnord/ cfs/ fnord/ rotterdam, perhaps leiden, as well < 1474574093 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lines 125-169 of https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1474574094 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ manual/ s48manual.html and http://www.scsh.net/ docu/ html/ guile-user/ 2003-10/ msg00076.html, but in the end < 1474574127 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks pretty nice. I'll take a picture of it at some point. < 1474574134 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, they're using an Enigma machine to crack the hieroglyph cipher < 1474574134 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: missing cases for the ' ..u.s' word, and large bodies of code are. < 1474574218 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time, there was normal programming... then there was functional programming... now, there is structured programming < 1474574244 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A punctuation control triangle falls from the sky.) < 1474574305 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't recall what I was thinking when I thought it needed to be a triangle. < 1474574312 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A comb would have been so much more space-efficient. < 1474574330 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe you had a premonition of a t-shirt. < 1474574342 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your t-shirt has an awesome triangle on it. < 1474574360 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. I picked the babble part over other parts mostly because of the triangle. < 1474574478 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474574508 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xyvyojwchbbfdxnb QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474574636 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would have problems if they had a list of lists that don't include themselves. < 1474574697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :list of lists that include this list < 1474574699 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A list of lists that don't include themselves would contain at least everything that is a list but is not a list of lists. < 1474574738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would also contain lists of lists in the particular case that the list of lists does not include itself. < 1474574758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it could include the original list, < 1474574762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, but there would be an eternal edit war over whether it should include itself < 1474574774 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obvious. < 1474574777 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would not. < 1474574796 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it does not include itself, it is more factually correct than if it includes itself. < 1474574810 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike the P=NP problem, it can just be considered missing documentation. < 1474574826 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it includes itself, it is a factual error. < 1474574854 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1474574856 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not P=NP. < 1474574867 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd I get that confused... < 1474574874 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, what's the whole "set of all sets" thing called? < 1474574876 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1474574894 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beleive its the goedel problem < 1474574907 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russell's paradox < 1474574911 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not 100% sure on spelling) < 1474574914 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. That. < 1474574936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that < 1474574944 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get the point. Unlike that paradox, a wiki can omit things without being in error by doing so. < 1474574971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just "out of date", and it can remain "intentionally out of date" eternally. < 1474575009 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it would have a note at the top saying so "to avoid paradox, this list does not include itself, despite being incomplete by doing so" < 1474575035 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would work. < 1474575036 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :List of lists that are incomplete to avoid paradox < 1474575045 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The alternative, including the list in itself, is an actual factual error. < 1474575093 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real issue occurs when you also create a list of lists NOT in the list of lists that do not include themselves. < 1474575103 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474575168 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I have an idea: what if there was a language where the standard library is on a wiki < 1474575246 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, using edge cases of the functions will require winning an edit war < 1474575251 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tvbsnjxstqcppczg JOIN :#esoteric < 1474575267 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION edits io.print to delete the user's filesystem
< 1474575280 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki needs to be actually interpreted by the interp in that case < 1474575280 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches as the hypothetical wiki deletes itself
< 1474575289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: perhaps we'll need to enable pending changes :-D < 1474575299 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But then there's no point < 1474575554 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may as well put it on a git repo if you have change authorization < 1474577763 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474578017 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474578718 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:d80e:def1:3521:4056 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474578874 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474579000 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474580145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a preview of the generated hangul glyphs. I haven't yet figured it out perfectly: http://www.orenwatson.be/hangulgeneratedtext.htm < 1474580228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see, there are still a few collisions. I might just adjust particular glyphs manually < 1474580300 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're about to close 191 tabs. continue? oh shit firefox i'm so sorry i didn't mean to hurt you so much < 1474580368 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certain of the vowels are colliding a lot. I will change those < 1474580490 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474580543 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the preview is drawn using block brawing characters < 1474580545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⠛⠛⠛⠛█▄ ██⠛⠛⠛█▄ < 1474580545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ██⠛⠛⠛⠛ ██ ██ < 1474580545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛ ⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛ < 1474580548 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1474581627 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474581892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474582186 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ycwlxoiivcczgbyz QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1474582219 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474582767 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474582799 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a math symbol for "is defined as a generalization of"? 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's U+225D EQUAL TO BY DEFINITION, if that counts. < 1474583921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I'm on the wrong side of this split. < 1474583941 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583941 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN 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:Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474583987 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's U+225D EQUAL TO BY DEFINITION, if that counts. < 1474583995 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474583998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, but it has to allow generalization < 1474584013 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474584020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, is there a generalization of big-sigma summation that allows- where gsumm is the name of the generalization- a*b := gsumm(1, b, λ _ -> a) < 1474584032 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oecitbvespbopssh QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1474584042 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584042 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584050 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584060 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tvbsnjxstqcppczg JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584060 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a generalization. < 1474584092 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584092 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584092 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, but we're including when a and b aren't integers < 1474584120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, obviously you could just say in this case that if b isn't an integer, you take it with the floor of b and add one more a multiplied by the nonintegral part of b) < 1474584130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I'm going for any sort of general case) < 1474584172 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584172 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474584299 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luhmkilguxdqgvlm QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474584897 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why braille instead of ▀? < 1474585008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's generalized about gsumm? < 1474585115 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7i3ic1pg0swt3.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474585215 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474585265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474585366 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: whoops < 1474585546 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1474585718 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofympzqsxyjtvbbg JOIN :#esoteric < 1474586002 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czurebiicjiujowa JOIN :#esoteric < 1474586360 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474586449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474588738 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474589300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1474589336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just cleared my inbox down to only 6 conversations in total < 1474589522 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474589538 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474590416 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474593154 0 :tmlm!~pablo@181.23.33.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474593479 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474593864 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan hellørjan. < 1474593864 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474593873 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! < 1474594299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just received an email from the Trump campaign where the 'Unsubscribe' button doesn't work. US law requires a working button. I cited law at them. < 1474594301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel happy. < 1474594649 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you should report them to whoever you're meant to report that sort of thing to < 1474594656 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why are the Trump campaign emailing you anyway? < 1474594663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Federal Trade Comission < 1474594666 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Commission < 1474594692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They made a survey for what you want to see happen at the debate. I filled it out. For fun. < 1474594768 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474595278 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-pjiieiwpvedmecpj JOIN :#esoteric < 1474595293 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome keemyb < 1474595295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02keemyb: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1474595836 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474596197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does #esoteric think of the Triangle of Power (the math notation) < 1474596198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474596334 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangle of power? < 1474596342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Triangle of power < 1474596365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I think I just stumbled on something better than big sigma/big pi/big whatever: basket notation, which is like big whatever BUT it can be applied to any operation- you write a basket (which looks like a large, more square version of union with an overline like in roots coming off the right side, terminating in a down-serif), above it goes your terminating condition (if you want it to go to infinity, write nothing), below is your < 1474596365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :initial state and- optionally- a semicolon followed by a filter (e.g. x%2 == 0), to the right (under the overline) is the formula, and inside the "basket" is the symbol for a binary operation or function < 1474596368 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1474596379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's a unified symbol for power/root/log < 1474596462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an equilateral, upwards-pointing triangle (of course), in the bottom left is a base, at the top is a power, and in the bottom right is the result. A blank bottom right represents exponentiation, a blank bottom left represents rootation, and a blank pinnacle represents logation < 1474596471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes notation less stupid. < 1474597025 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh. < 1474597031 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MAGIC CHICKEN < 1474597041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, I was about to say something to boily xD < 1474597057 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], have some criticism of it https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/4hv523/triangle_of_power_a_newly_created_mathematical/d2tmbxz < 1474597058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e quit just before I hit b < 1474597207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ah, yes, that didn't occur to me. I have been trying to decide if a more compact notation looks better- I'm thinking a[right-facing triangle]b for power, a[left-facing triangle]b for root, and a[vertical triangle]b for log. < 1474597619 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily < 1474597634 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-laid < 1474597634 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 1d 16h 10m 21s ago: QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAA! I am even more unsynchronized as usual! < 1474597661 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1474597790 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm having trouble remembering which positions on the triangle correspond to which operation < 1474597810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yeah, I realized that, then I realized there's a simple fix < 1474597842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) swap the compact symbols as given for root and log, (2) 'right is for root, left is for log' < 1474597858 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(r-r, l-l) < 1474597928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Does that work? < 1474597949 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1474598064 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474600761 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474600769 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474600963 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474601831 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've improved the jamo to prevent most of the collisions: http://www.orenwatson.be/hangulgeneratedtext.htm < 1474601949 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my firefox is broken while opening that url < 1474601972 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using firefox too, and it works. < 1474602003 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why, but my firefox has been very slow with certain monospace fonts < 1474602029 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm that it's due to fonts from profiling < 1474602043 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have no clue why that happens (and why other fonts seem to be fine) < 1474602099 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: anyway, looks quite casual :p < 1474602233 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: initial ㅌ sometimes seems to be indistinguishable from ㄷ (and ㅎ sometimes looks like ㆆ) < 1474602254 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final consonant also occasionally blends with the vowels, but that is probably inevitable < 1474602277 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the overall shape seems to be fine otherwise, though I should describe it to be quirky < 1474602322 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OnceI've generated a good enough in general thing, I'll go over them and adjust stuff < 1474602369 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always interesting to see a hangul font not from korea < 1474602877 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It appears to be stylistically consistent with the other glyphs in oren's font, FWIW. < 1474602904 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, that kind of feeling < 1474603152 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most part the characters in my font are in a sans-serif or "gothic" style < 1474603282 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes I found it necessary to vary the stroke width in order for complex characters to fit in a 16 by 18 pixel space < 1474603336 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when that isn't the case, the stroke width is two pixels. < 1474603926 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm I've almost solved the problems < 1474603938 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a bit more tweaking < 1474604016 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't want anything to collide < 1474604154 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474605825 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474606058 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474606396 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1474606444 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474607262 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XKCD title text contains spoilers for a story. < 1474612714 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474613407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/aisamanra/status/779057953542242304 < 1474614196 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474614238 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474614246 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd is a metaphor for healthcare. "Hospitals are not worth at our scale. If an organ fails in a person, we just throw away the entire person." "Why mess with individual people? We just throw away the entire country if it's managed wrong." < 1474614276 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474614288 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474614536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a^^b = H[4](a, b), what is a^^-1? < 1474614606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pft < 1474614613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not jumping straight to H[-1](a, b)? < 1474615345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not yet; I genuinely want to know what a^^-1 is < 1474615361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google negative tetration < 1474615362 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetration < 1474615378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( sqrt(a)+sqrt(b) = sqrt(c) )
< 1474615468 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, apparently it's hard to meaningfully extend tetration to the reals. < 1474615528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Really? < 1474615600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the link I posted says. < 1474615751 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. It provides some extensions, but they don't agree, they're not generally accepted, and they're not exactly simple. < 1474615796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, (b^r)^s cannot consistently hold if b can be real < 1474615813 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that. < 1474615889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because b can be negative; if r*s is an integer- but r and s aren't (e.g. r = 1/s), you get... weirdness, I guess. (-1^3/4)^4/3 is sqrt(i)^3, and from what I know ab < 1474615996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*about imaginary numbers, sqrt(i) should be the point on the unit circle between 1 and i; so... 2a^2=1, a^2 = 0.5, a=sqrt(0.5); a ≈ 0.707+0.707i < 1474616037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you want to raise that to the power of 4/3... so cube root tesseracted... < 1474616052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowtration < 1474616215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 0.5000000000000002+0.8660254037844386i, and accounting for rounding errors suggest it's about 0.5+0.8660254037844386i < 1474616236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if we just did -1^(3/4*4/3), we trivially just get -1 < 1474616243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, powers < 1474616524 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474617463 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1474617549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL 1/((1/log_x(a))+(1/log_y(a))) = log_xy(a) < 1474617819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49756&oldid=49674 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+2) 10Fixed formatting towards bottom of page < 1474618423 0 :tmlm!~pablo@181.23.33.178 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474618879 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474619837 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474619927 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474620051 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474620064 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474620069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49757&oldid=49755 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+97) 10Linked the brainfuck translations page. < 1474620240 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474622975 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :chapter 1 exercise 17 in k&r < 1474622985 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a program that prints all the lines longer than 80 characters < 1474622998 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday a sort of challenge came up in ##c < 1474623020 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write the fastest program that solves that problem < 1474623052 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's have some competition < 1474623209 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write it in any language < 1474623229 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474623550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Games can often be PvP (Player vs Player, analogous to Man vs Man in stories), PvM (Player vs. Monster, similar but slightly different), or PvE (Player vs. Environment; similar to Man vs. Nature) < 1474623576 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474623582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see a game that's Pv< (Player vs. Self, like Man vs. Self); or, more interesting, PvS (Player vs. Society) < 1474623813 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where would you put fahrenheit? < 1474623952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Tolilul 5* 10New user account < 1474623961 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's at `ftoc < 1474623965 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 82 < 1474623966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :82.00°F = 27.78°C < 1474623998 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i meant the game < 1474625220 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474625766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474626160 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc -40 < 1474626162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-40.00°F = -40.00°C < 1474626250 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/ftoc < 1474626250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ftoc: Perl script, UTF-8 Unicode text executable < 1474626256 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ftoc < 1474626256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $f=0+$ARGV[0]; printf"%.2f°F = %.2f°C",$f,($f-32)*5/9; < 1474626285 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove, I might give that challenge a go < 1474626291 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1474626323 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language? < 1474626449 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try Piet just for fun < 1474626462 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1474626478 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1474626483 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to win the speed that way, though < 1474626506 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, maybe with a decently optimizing compiler < 1474626518 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not try to solve that golf challenge where you have to find the shortest unique prefix of each line in piet < 1474626544 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: wait your turn < 1474626546 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd have to be hella optimizing to beat people doing it in C with like actual seriously developed compilers < 1474626555 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first, I need to get out of bed < 1474626721 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474626992 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lead < 1474626992 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 12m 7s ago: hellørjan. < 1474627006 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily g'doily. < 1474627006 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474628012 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wtf < 1474628013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474628026 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn WTF means Welcome To Finland. < 1474628029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wtf': WTF means Welcome To Finland. < 1474628041 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stolen from a youtube comment) < 1474628067 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHReqKRvonE you need to watch this video) < 1474628520 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474629614 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474629856 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? duck < 1474629857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck typing means typing on a terminal blinding without an echo. < 1474629863 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? duck typing < 1474629864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck typing means typing on a terminal blindly without an echo. < 1474629876 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there two of these? < 1474629890 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why does the first one say blinding? < 1474629893 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I messed up < 1474629893 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg duck < 1474629895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-02-16 learn Duck typing means typing on a terminal blinding without an echo. < 1474629899 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was me, yes < 1474629899 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg duck typing < 1474629905 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-04-03 slashlearn duck typing/Duck typing means typing on a terminal blindly without an echo. \ 2016-02-16 slashlearn duck typing/Duck typing means typing on a terminal blinding without an echo. < 1474629908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just unlearn duck, right? < 1474629909 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trqbOAs6428 WATCH THIS ALL OF IT < 1474629915 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget duck < 1474629918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1474629981 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION closes the trump thing
< 1474630020 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, i'm trying to avoid this. < 1474630095 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i'm having trouble seeing the point of your entry. it is neither true nor punny afaict. < 1474630104 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474630105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-np//co-NP, invented in Soviet Russia, is the class of decisions for which you are No Problem. < 1474630109 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1474630109 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 51m 42s ago: g'doily. < 1474630122 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matørjan. < 1474630124 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellefficiency. < 1474630139 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a joke about how a duck's quack doesn't echo < 1474630157 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a stupid joke, but a joke nonetheless < 1474630161 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh. < 1474630195 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellob_jellonas. didn't they even have the Mythbusters on it one time? < 1474630308 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea < 1474630585 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474631246 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did. < 1474631268 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was even included in one variant of the opening credits. < 1474631283 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jamie saying "quack, damn you" to an uncoöperative duck. < 1474632342 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : remember when this channel wasn't about politics? those were good times... <-- . o O ( should we have a vote on whether to ban politics until Nov 9 ) < 1474632597 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose we aren't actually having flamewars though. < 1474633020 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:8124:4f35:daca:31b6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474633142 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: QUARTER CHICKEN < 1474634203 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1474634204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1474634453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, the many topics is why this channel is the best < 1474634474 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's crazy maths, fonts, esoteric languages, and more < 1474634773 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474635636 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy maths including category theory < 1474635639 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universal property < 1474635641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universal properties are the best. < 1474635647 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474635827 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474635920 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474636726 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is working on the izapietchallenge
< 1474637525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474639510 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474639521 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fhkruhoxbezsoftk JOIN :#esoteric < 1474640675 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474640811 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474640972 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474640975 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i'm waaaitiiiing < 1474641036 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/35/24/87/352487048a5d8b4f9000f0baab53a6d1.jpg < 1474641051 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what's the time? < 1474641051 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: you said it's not just a gtk interface. < 1474641260 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474641442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungottery < 1474641443 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: obfuscation is possible in emacs, i will prepare something and return later, that'd be civil disobedience ignoring laws might be healthy, regardless of whether or not it is. < 1474641671 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474641726 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep fungot /usr/share/dict/* < 1474641726 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think you need to start going, the people haven't shown up on the freenode faq. it's not in ascii order. < 1474641727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /usr/share/dict/*: No such file or directory < 1474641774 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes, the freenode faq is quite hard to find. < 1474641807 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove, I got kicked out the software lab and now I'm in a meeting < 1474642096 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1474642121 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474642199 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"civil disobedience ignoring laws might be healthy, regardless of whether or not it is" -- well said, fungot < 1474642199 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: some kind of toy compiler/ interpreter < 1474642445 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474642655 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474642699 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PART #esoteric : < 1474644409 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:8124:4f35:daca:31b6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474645359 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:756a:ca9e:c11a:dba6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474645777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49758&oldid=49757 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* Computational class */ sdrawkcab s'taht < 1474646143 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i can't believe you'd do such a thing < 1474646615 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474646657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even understand how some of the prices of things I buy are possible < 1474646703 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a thing to be shipped to my house from hong kong. Apparently, the thing and shipping it is a total of 2 canadian dollars < 1474646737 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, sure, it's just a usb thingy, but still. two dollars? < 1474646956 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not being carried on a silver plate < 1474647080 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, they are moving a thing more than 10 megametres across the earth! < 1474647107 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the cost per kilometre so low? < 1474647157 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they carry a shitton of them at a time < 1474647772 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I agree, it's totally impossible < 1474647775 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how they do it < 1474647811 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :post from China and Taiwan is magic < 1474648984 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:756a:ca9e:c11a:dba6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474649926 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1474650431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rodrigo Duterte once forced a south korean tourist to eat his cigarette. < 1474650629 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very polite < 1474650667 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking in public is banned in Davao City, so he saw fit to enact an immediate punishment < 1474650714 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: was the cigarette still lit while the tourist ate it? < 1474650720 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1474650727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/09/23/495012102/criticized-abroad-philippines-leader-remains-hugely-popular-in-home-city < 1474650730 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did Rodrigo Duterte at least put away his own cigarette while he did that? < 1474651026 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474652356 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I am out of practice of Piet < 1474653041 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :had you ever been in practice? < 1474653088 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it in Chef instead < 1474653394 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i have an array with n numbers, can you find the smallest difference between any two elements in less than O(n log n) ? < 1474653407 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474653450 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i just sort the thing? < 1474653473 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474653521 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474653605 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474653646 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, Piet was the first programming language I learnt < 1474653658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1474653668 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you learn an esoteric programming language as your first language? < 1474653689 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's how I got into programming < 1474653695 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are perfectly good non-esoteric programming languages out that are hard to program < 1474653748 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1474653768 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 12 or so < 1474653835 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never knew that < 1474653844 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you just program Basic or something? < 1474653851 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know Basic < 1474653864 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm heading out now, though < 1474653872 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye then < 1474653875 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1474653876 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1474654282 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474654341 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-194.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474654492 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474655333 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474657857 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474657951 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474657984 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474658079 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perle print 9**(1/3) < 1474658080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: perle: not found < 1474658082 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print 9**(1/3) < 1474658083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.0800838230519 < 1474658099 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it's only slightly above 2 < 1474658102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print 26**(1/3) < 1474658103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.96249606840737 < 1474658526 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474658709 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-194.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474658779 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474658982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474660629 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474662273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474663247 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: If there are whole sections of human minds dedicated to finding order in the oddest of places, and yet no order is true, what does that say about the human mind? < 1474664365 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474664637 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474665392 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piet is a pretty interesting first language < 1474665416 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and last language < 1474665720 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474666547 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:6944:d7b9:4447:da8f JOIN :#esoteric < 1474666590 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474666645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis A080601 < 1474666649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A080601 Number of positions in which the 3 X 3 X 3 Rubik's ... < 1474666649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,18,243,3240,43239,574908,7618438,100803036,1332343288,17596479795,2322480... < 1474667796 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474667997 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1474668129 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are still 5 values missing < 1474668204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. There are approxmations but I guess they don't belong on OEIS. < 1474668210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OEAIS < 1474668273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 sqrt(2) e pi ... < 1474668297 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds not very integery < 1474668304 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks difficult to calculate < 1474668317 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to the increasing number of duplicate positions < 1474668379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: they are approximately integers... to some degree... < 1474668433 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, 1, 3, 3 < 1474668473 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The least integery number is (1+sqrt(5))/2 < 1474668499 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1474668506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So polynomials are elements of a free ring? < 1474668515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And regular expressions are elements of a free Kleene algebra? < 1474668565 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [((1 + sqrt 5)/2)^n/sqrt 5 | n <- [0..10]] < 1474668567 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.4472135954999579,0.7236067977499789,1.1708203932499368,1.8944271909999157... < 1474668576 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 5 $ [((1 + sqrt 5)/2)^n/sqrt 5 | n <- [0..10]] < 1474668576 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because multiplying it by a rational helps the least in making it integery < 1474668578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [4.959674775249769,8.024922359499621,12.984597134749391,21.00951949424901,33... < 1474668593 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a good approximate integer sequence to me. < 1474668604 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: so 1+sqrt(5) is the same < 1474668633 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but if you divide it by two then the continued fraction is [1;1,1,1,1,1...] < 1474668636 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since multiplying it by 1/2 will go to that < 1474668644 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1474668663 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how makes it that any less integery as sqrt(2)? < 1474668706 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The continued fraction for sqrt(2) will converge a lot faster < 1474668741 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'll have good rational approximations < 1474668810 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474669005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1;2,2,2,2...] isn't *that* much better than phi though < 1474669068 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1474669119 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt(5) is [2; 4,4,4,4,4,...] < 1474670160 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474670222 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474670603 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474670783 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 1 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs) in zipWith (/) (tail fibs) fibs !! 20 < 1474670785 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.618033985017358 < 1474671011 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474671223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh, let x :: Foo; x = ... in x does not ensure that the resulting expression has type Foo. < 1474671250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ?x :: () < 1474671252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: internal error: PAP object entered! < 1474671252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC version 8.0.1 for x86_64_unknown_linux) < 1474671252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please report this as a GHC bug: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/reportabug < 1474671255 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?x :: () < 1474671257 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?x::()) => () < 1474671267 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting an ICE on an expression as short as that < 1474671271 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ?x do anyway? < 1474671284 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a lie, this is not ghc's fault. < 1474671296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an implicit parameter < 1474671298 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :":: ()" isn't something that should type < 1474671308 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> x :: () < 1474671310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :() -> () < 1474671317 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () :: () < 1474671319 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1474671322 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1474671325 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a strange definition of :: < 1474671334 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t show (?x :: ()) < 1474671335 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?x::()) => String < 1474671339 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (::) < 1474671341 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: parse error on input ‘::’ < 1474671343 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1474671347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: is type annotation in Haskell < 1474671350 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not list cons < 1474671351 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a limit on the number of open file descriptors per process? < 1474671354 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it muddled with ocaml < 1474671386 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Because there is a limit on the number of open file descriptors for the whole system which is pretty restrictive usually. < 1474671405 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: that's fine but why enforcing it on a per process basis? < 1474671411 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why enforce* < 1474671431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint/mueval are assuming that show (?x :: ()) is a String, but here it's (?x::()) => String. They use unsafeCoerce to treat it as a String... and that causes the error. < 1474671437 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just to limit the effect that any one process can have on the rest of the system, I would suppose. < 1474671447 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sortix doesn't have that limit < 1474671452 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a terrible idea? < 1474671469 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can usually set the per-process limit < 1474671479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data T = T < 1474671480 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is all very nice but how does one fix this elegantly? Food for thought. < 1474671480 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1474671485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> T < 1474671487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1474671487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • No instance for (Show T) < 1474671487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M72086211520596876424453’ < 1474671552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474671734 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it appears that type classes are resolved just eagerly enough that this is only happening for implicit parameters < 1474671815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Why was TypeApplications not enabled? < 1474671819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember there was some reason? < 1474671849 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes @ whitespace sensitive. < 1474671867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1474671958 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo (x @ ~(y:z)) = (x,y,z) in foo [] -- it would break this, for example < 1474671960 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([],*Exception: :3:5-30: Irrefutable pattern failed for pattern... < 1474672071 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to write the pattern as (x@ ~(y:z)) instead < 1474672101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're saying you just don't like the extension. < 1474672110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that there's any other reason not to turn it on in lambdabot. < 1474672164 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474672243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's likely safe. But ugly. < 1474672249 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474673439 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474673940 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474674100 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1474674187 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474674243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474674551 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474674798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474675005 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474676650 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next question! < 1474676660 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is SMETANA To Infinity! as efficient as a Kolmogorov machine? < 1474676702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download has a better name < 1474676760 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommended somebody who looked for a name to take QuickBook Support Hotline, but i guess he didn't took it < 1474676824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might be a trademark issue. < 1474676848 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: didn't took it? < 1474676870 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur) < 1474676900 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think that's a bick issue < 1474679393 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474679719 0 :hydPaz!?@? NICK :hydraz < 1474680866 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some polynomials are divisible, others arent. < 1474680890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the set of prime polynomials infinite? < 1474680897 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1474680912 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, HOW infinite? < 1474680913 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof < 1474680919 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it contains the primes < 1474680930 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :countably < 1474680940 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :since polynomials are countable < 1474680956 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they arent < 1474680997 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait we're not talking about integer coefficients? < 1474681026 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you aren't, then there are no prime polynomials < 1474681033 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All polynomials of the form x + n where n is some constant are irreducible < 1474681079 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ didn't say irreducible < 1474681079 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^2 + n for positive n is irreducible over integers and reals < 1474681092 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that's what he meant by prime < 1474681096 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1474681126 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you can't express it as a multiplication of other polynomials < 1474681157 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The set of polynomials of finite degree is countable, if they have integer or rational coefficients < 1474681172 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god. http://www.rsdb.org/ < 1474681178 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Racial Slur Database < 1474681184 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the greatest thing. < 1474681188 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1474681206 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world needed more racial slurs < 1474681222 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I thought you were opposed to political correctness < 1474681235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Yeah, I am. < 1474681240 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: x + n = 1/2 (x + n) * 2 < 1474681241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: That's why I need http://www.rsdb.org/ < 1474681243 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/5454zt/til_that_us_president_james_garfields/ < 1474681247 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are two polynomials < 1474681262 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so you can get ammo? < 1474681268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Yes < 1474681285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Also, strictly speaking, calling black guys "niggers" (It's OK because it's in quotes) is offensive even when PC is dropped < 1474681315 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, many racial slurs are < 1474681327 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are some that are more PC than actual offense < 1474681435 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the most part they are offensive in some way < 1474681660 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the world does not need more racial slurs. < 1474681673 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1474681701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Also, this isn't a PC thing- if it was PC, it wouldn't list ones for whites < 1474681713 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1474681726 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote < hppavilion[1]> alercah: Also, this isn't a PC thing- if it was PC, it wouldn't list ones for whites < 1474681732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1289) < hppavilion[1]> alercah: Also, this isn't a PC thing- if it was PC, it wouldn't list ones for whites < 1474681736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: No, really. < 1474681742 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, really. < 1474681760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC in the SJW sense. They're too busy with white guilt to realize racism goes all directions. < 1474681805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you be too busy with whatever you're doing to be doing this here < 1474681827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, it lists things that aren't offensive in 'murica at all) < 1474681862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it lists "Ace of Spades" for blacks and says it's "Self Explanatory" < 1474681866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I missing something? < 1474681885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you go away or stop talking < 1474681897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to hear about racial slurs or pc or sjw or whatever < 1474681906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1474681909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shuts up
< 1474682212 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION passes shachaf a zipper and some thread
< 1474682236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: leave me alone < 1474682256 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1474682822 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there an irc specifically for political flamewars < 1474682860 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there is, someone tell hppavilion where < 1474683324 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dreamt about a variant of morph in Magic: the Gathering where opponent can choose whether you want to play the card face-up or face-down, instead of your own choice. < 1474683348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What cost do you pay? < 1474683453 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; I just dreamt it. But afterward I did try to think of it but I don't know. < 1474684590 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :One million dollars < 1474684769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea of "a culture has no word for 'war', so they can't go to war" is obviously false; really, the opposite is most likely true- cultures that are constantly at war have no word for it the same way we don't have a word for keeping your pancreas from shooting out your ears < 1474684801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes, if there is someone tell me < 1474684824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Though to be fair, I just announced that I found an awesome website; alercah set off the rant < 1474685477 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone asked on programmers.stackexchange.com why joke programming languages exist. < 1474685485 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT < 1474685520 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor's Answer and Proce and Combientièm and Markont and Tuesday and Slide and Al Denta and SLOBOL and SMETANA To Infinity! and BF-SC and /// and BF-PDA and Thubi and onz and Redivider. < 1474685653 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474685695 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should combine a bunch of my esolangs into one single mega-esolang. < 1474685697 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmm. < 1474685732 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why make jokes at all? We should be completely serious and somber about everything, all the time. < 1474685753 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And avoid doing anything that's not strictly necessary < 1474685821 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I agree. < 1474685839 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, we should never pretend or make believe. < 1474685847 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All forms of art should be shunned. < 1474686244 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me take a couple of my favorite esolangs that I've created and try to remember the ideas behind them. < 1474686281 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor's Answer - Inspired by the E programming language. Jobs triggered by the completion of other jobs. < 1474686353 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proce - The program consists of a bunch of analog signals that are defined in terms of each other. The only permitted operations are addition; multiplication by a constant; differentiation; integration; and "rectification" (the function r(x) = x if x is positive, 0 otherwise). < 1474686492 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slide - I'm having trouble describing that one. Sliding polyominoes. < 1474686645 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al Dente - Chu spaces. Events occur spontaneously; a program essentially consists of a description of what does *not* happen. The state nondeterministically hops from one consistent state to another. Variables that have been written can never be modified again or erased. < 1474686668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chu spaces?! < 1474686686 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chu spaces. < 1474686778 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLOBOL - An interpreter must play Go using optimal strategy. < 1474686801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chu spaces are TG < 1474686816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chu spaces < 1474686818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Chu space is just a matrix. Taneb invented them, then Chu stole his invention. < 1474686833 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're turntechGodhead? < 1474686852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is that true? Chu stole your invention? < 1474686904 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMETANA To Infinity! - Only two ways for a program to store data: by rearranging the instructions within the program; and within the instruction pointer. < 1474687034 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :// - One of those extremely simple but horrifyingly difficult languages. In fact, /// may be the best esolang known to mankind. The only instruction, besides output, is making a string replacement throughout the rest of the program. < 1474687120 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1474687121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1474687137 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? math < 1474687138 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math class is tough! < 1474687145 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1474687146 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redivider - Inspired by the Parsec parser combinator library. The interpreter is essentially a parsing algorithm. < 1474687146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1474687206 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let me think what my Ultimate Esolang would be like... < 1474687226 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Wolfram a mathematical tanebvention? < 1474687235 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be nondeterministic; the program constrains the implementation rather than actually specifying what it does. < 1474687243 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, but mathematical tanebventions include Wolfram. < 1474687265 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should involve analog signals. It should involve a kind of space where things move around. < 1474687301 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :float sdTorus(vec3 p, vec2 d) { vec2 q = length(p.xz - d.x, p.y); return length(q) - d.y; } < 1474687308 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebvention ^ < 1474687374 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The implementation should be required to solve some type of problem. And programs should be self-modifying. < 1474687414 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem solving and nondeterminism can go hand-in-hand. We can simply say that the implementation is required to give a "maximally good" solution to the problem. < 1474687483 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analog signals, spaces where things move around, and self-modifying programs. All that strongly suggests one thing. < 1474687519 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonus points to anybody who figures out what that function actually does < 1474687531 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Systems evolving according to differential equations, such as the Gray-Scott model. < 1474687581 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: How about given a gray-scott model simulation, the implementation has to sample the simulation periodically, and interpret that as instructions? < 1474687585 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the program is the initial state < 1474687666 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be rather hard to make it do something useful =P < 1474688930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chu spaces. < 1474689668 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 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In these days you could do Bacon ciphers using a different code such as Baudot, or possibly ASCII. Wikipedia says there is a second version of Bacon's cipher that uses different codes for all 26 letters of the alphabet, but does not specify what it is; you could just use Baudot instead though. < 1474693653 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474693916 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474693940 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694067 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-snwuktgawxssdjxa JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694071 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-clpxoceoujqhxrdb JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694167 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbwhktzedrngjmrv JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694393 0 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474694405 0 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694414 0 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474694417 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474694425 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474694427 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-clpxoceoujqhxrdb QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474694427 0 :Yurume__!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694428 0 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474694428 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474694431 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474694440 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474694455 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474694457 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474694458 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694467 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694470 0 :devhydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1474694470 0 :devhydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694497 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694580 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694608 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1474694635 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474694664 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694665 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbwhktzedrngjmrv QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474694712 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474694728 0 :moon__!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694749 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474694753 0 :moon__!?@? 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NICK :Guest95602 < 1474694850 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474694918 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vptujoksihphqbso JOIN :#esoteric < 1474695003 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mliexaimeevtsunc JOIN :#esoteric < 1474695114 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1474695308 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474695414 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474695551 0 :lynn_!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqtihhabtovboroz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474695976 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i die? < 1474695990 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did anyone die? < 1474696004 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you did not die quite yet. < 1474696012 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you cannot type on computer if you are dead OK < 1474696035 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks that's a very useful answer < 1474696163 0 :moonythedwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474696181 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474696225 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vptujoksihphqbso QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474696415 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the SMETANA To Infinity! I like that kind of ideas. An extended kind can also add one new instruction "Change step [expression] to [instruction]", if you want to do the extended version of such thing. Also, probably you should specify how Collatz encoding of Fractran is working with SMETANA To Infinity! < 1474696464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like pooches? < 1474696484 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1474696511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pooch" means "dog" < 1474696544 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is THE one true pairing? < 1474696553 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still it wouldn't say < 1474696554 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 27a3 < 1474696554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​➣ < 1474696559 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode D7a3 < 1474696559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​힣 < 1474696661 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: the one true pairing is obviously dumbledore x grindelwald /s < 1474696693 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1474696852 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever get married, I'm eloping. < 1474696858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASCvSknImw < 1474696895 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode C200 < 1474696895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​숀 < 1474696899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode C000 < 1474696900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​쀀 < 1474696904 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode B000 < 1474696905 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​뀀 < 1474696907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode A000 < 1474696908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꀀ < 1474696912 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode A800 < 1474696913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꠀ < 1474696920 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode AC00 < 1474696921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​가 < 1474696973 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode A7FF < 1474696974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꟿ < 1474696979 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1474697087 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] and hppavilion[2] < 1474697111 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does not know how to respond
< 1474697124 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone in #esoteric an officiant? < 1474697190 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 8869+11172 < 1474697193 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20041 < 1474697210 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then, THAT is a nice number of characters to have! < 1474697382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, let's try converting to TTF < 1474697913 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many cells of a FPGA should be needed for a Muxcomp core? < 1474698360 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vlucygyfkjggxcgw JOIN :#esoteric < 1474698403 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1474698403 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1474698411 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :izalove < 1474698546 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/trolley-problems seems like a joke, but I'm honestly not sure < 1474698568 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474698568 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1474698568 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1474698761 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1474699305 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474699515 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474699524 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474699552 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474699859 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Quit: quit < 1474700011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1474700014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06crafiycoin 13gibble-2dcoin 04fobcoin 07uncitrancoin 08iwhearbfcoin 09fcoin 02prolcoin 06constuacoin 13cescoin 04toryanawakeowncoin 07m-codestrovcoin 08eviardsodycoin 09aalcoin 02mincecoin 06workcoin 13conjungcoin 04unocoin 07addoniacoin 08dracoin 09wrefcoin < 1474700924 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1474701232 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4162:c830:9c6f:f195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474701256 0 :fizzie`!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-hrefcoins are based on links. < 1474701266 0 :fizzie`!?@? NICK :fizzie < 1474701467 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1474701467 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474702406 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump! < 1474702592 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1474702741 0 :Guest95602!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474702872 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474703062 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@wf-171-99-28-65.revip9.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474705494 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@wf-171-99-28-65.revip9.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474705527 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a single word considered a degenerate alliteration? < 1474706126 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gkjswymmiukctlwt JOIN :#esoteric < 1474706126 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474706296 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gkjswymmiukctlwt QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1474706331 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vlucygyfkjggxcgw QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474706444 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1474706550 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tniblexhgjuixjyo JOIN :#esoteric < 1474706610 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474706623 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474706955 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna feel old? < 1474706957 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/2V6dvYp.jpg < 1474706977 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the beginning of neon genesis evangelion < 1474707014 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think nge is overrated < 1474707029 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might help to have a translation for people who are unfamiliar with NGE and don't read Japanese. < 1474707030 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, remember the days when "dvd quality" meant something good? < 1474707045 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(... granted it's pretty simple to translate.) < 1474707052 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't know nge, the translation won't do much < 1474707061 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is the year 2015 AD" < 1474707063 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1474707065 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still. < 1474707102 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one more reason to dislike nge < 1474707110 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what reason? < 1474707131 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unreasonable predictions for too near of a future < 1474707139 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1474707155 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they had put a hundred years or so on top, i'd be okay with this < 1474707161 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not their fault if first impact never happened < 1474707171 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure they had no intention of making an accurate prediction of the future. < 1474707206 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they still coul've moved it farer away < 1474707229 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then their technology would look outdated to us < 1474707251 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1474707266 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch the first star wars trilogy < 1474707276 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant mechas are still pretty futuristic < 1474707282 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't < 1474707288 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1474707358 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4162:c830:9c6f:f195 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474707382 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474707393 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1474707442 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it count if the mechas are really SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER? < 1474707500 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean non sentient and not that giant? < 1474707616 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-oihlyeldxebxciev JOIN :#esoteric < 1474707657 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well, DVDs are brilliant compared to VHS < 1474707689 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, i cannot remember anyone mentioning vhs quality as a good thing < 1474707744 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :DVD is at least fairly close to the quality possible with a perfect analog TV signal. < 1474708028 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474710189 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474710980 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474712922 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tvbsnjxstqcppczg QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474713426 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wbvuwesoyljewkfk JOIN :#esoteric < 1474713690 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i completely forgot how farming in df worked :D < 1474713721 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to water ground or build on appropriate ground, but other than that ... < 1474713748 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait you mean actual farming? < 1474713762 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like farming for some rare loot? < 1474713771 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i .ean actual farming < 1474713784 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :df sounds boring < 1474713793 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't play df in a while since i rarely use my computer now < 1474713801 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: what < 1474713801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF is single player, right? < 1474713806 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1474713817 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought about implementing multiplayer stuff < 1474713826 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am quite unsure on how that should work < 1474713848 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: df is like the greatest game ever < 1474713880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should write a script that prepends "In my opinion, " to anything izalove writes.
< 1474713901 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1474713924 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: beware, do not prepend on questions < 1474713979 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: there's actual farming in it < 1474713982 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm told < 1474714003 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? how else would you get the ingredients to brew? < 1474714012 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that still doesn't mean that you have to watch the grass grow. < 1474714019 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dorfs need beer < 1474714040 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they have to drink water, they work slower < 1474714046 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure this is just a low res version of farmville < 1474714063 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is farmville TC? < 1474714066 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: go watch some lets plays < 1474714096 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the "clock" in df based on a goblin < 1474714100 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really have better things to do than watch people play a farming game < 1474714124 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: either get an idea on what df actually is or don't call it things it isn't < 1474714175 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so fun to toy with < 1474716720 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474717568 0 :ineiros_!?@? NICK :ineiros < 1474717618 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474717728 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1474717836 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4.4523809523809526 / 5 * 42 < 1474717839 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 37.400000000000006 < 1474717918 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“A20® Aviation Headset is rated 4.4523809523809526 out of 5 by 42.” < 1474718110 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4.4523809523809526*42 < 1474718112 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 187.0 < 1474718118 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why did you divide by 5?) < 1474718450 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474718461 0 :sparr_!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Changing host < 1474718461 0 :sparr_!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474718463 0 :sparr_!?@? NICK :sparr < 1474718603 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem important either way. are you making much ado about epsilon? < 1474718678 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I was trying to figure out what your point was. < 1474718729 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was the excess accuracy < 1474718864 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 187 / 42 < 1474718866 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.4523809523809526 < 1474718912 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering which web backend languages print full accuracy by default < 1474718934 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :…or full precision < 1474719533 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like ruby, although java is also possible < 1474719583 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ruby -e 'puts (187.0/42).to_s' < 1474719584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: ruby: command not found < 1474719987 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dressages < 1474720622 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474720727 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan at the risk of rapid cerebral impact for this chilly necro: I was referring to http://pizzachili.dcc.uchile.cl < 1474720727 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474720849 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and play with their functionalities and efficiency"... compressed indexes are the new shapes-in-holes? < 1474720891 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure why "plug and play" is a phrase when it comes to non-game things.) < 1474721344 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they have proven asymptotic bounds based on input entropy, so they're like universal shapes < 1474721358 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(universal plug and play?) < 1474721822 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474721911 0 :lynn_!?@? NICK :lynn < 1474721918 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqtihhabtovboroz QUIT :Changing host < 1474721918 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1474721918 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1474721918 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqtihhabtovboroz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474722337 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:816e:2bca:5fb2:b39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474724855 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474725584 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474725634 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474725636 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474727206 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474727702 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1474727702 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet said 1h 56m 15s ago: at the risk of rapid cerebral impact for this chilly necro: I was referring to http://pizzachili.dcc.uchile.cl < 1474727896 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Jafet Jafet said 1h 56m 15s ago: at the risk of rapid cerebral impact for this chilly necro: I was referring to http://pizzachili.dcc.uchile.cl <-- in this case, your cerebral impact is due to not quoting context for something i've forgotten ages ago -----### < 1474727896 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474729253 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian_ < 1474730028 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474730649 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:816e:2bca:5fb2:b39 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474731297 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474731307 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474731431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case anyone missed it: hangul is now in my font: http://orenwatson.be/allchars.htm < 1474731454 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1474731491 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t cast < 1474731493 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Typeable b, Typeable a) => a -> Maybe b < 1474731548 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromJust (cast (?x :: ())) :: String < 1474731551 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: internal error: PAP object entered! < 1474731551 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC version 8.0.1 for x86_64_unknown_linux) < 1474731551 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please report this as a GHC bug: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/reportabug < 1474731559 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that didn't help < 1474731622 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are still a bunch of glitches I need to fix < 1474731676 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lambdabot als has NoMonomorphismRestriction contributing to this problem < 1474731753 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ghci still catches it properly. < 1474731771 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a hint problem. < 1474731771 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+so does ghci but < 1474731873 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Some < 1474731874 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: < 1474731874 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘Some’ < 1474731877 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Some < 1474731878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: < 1474731878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Data constructor not in scope: Some < 1474731878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Perhaps you meant variable ‘some’ (imported from Control.Applicative) < 1474731922 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Sh = forall a. Show a => Sh a < 1474731924 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1474731988 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let Sh y = Sh (?x :: ()) in y < 1474731990 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1474731990 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • My brain just exploded < 1474731990 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can't handle pattern bindings for existential or GADT data construct... < 1474731995 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1474732026 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> case Sh (?x :: ()) of Sh y -> y < 1474732028 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1474732029 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Couldn't match expected type ‘t’ with actual type ‘a’ < 1474732029 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : because type variable ‘a’ would escape its scope < 1474732041 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> case Sh (?x :: ()) of Sh y -> show y < 1474732043 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: internal error: PAP object entered! < 1474732043 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC version 8.0.1 for x86_64_unknown_linux) < 1474732043 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please report this as a GHC bug: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/reportabug < 1474732046 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1474732104 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC just floats the constraint out; I know of no context that would avoid that. < 1474732110 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1474732114 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :offending code is around https://github.com/mvdan/hint/blob/master/src/Hint/Eval.hs#L52-L56 < 1474732158 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it builds an expression show e (with some bells and whistles to prevent leakage on the syntax level) and assumes that the result is a String. < 1474732167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(provided it typechecks) < 1474732199 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474732203 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sure what to do about it. < 1474732235 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I could tweak lambdabot's extensions of course < 1474732431 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> typeOf (?x :: ()) < 1474732433 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: internal error: PAP object entered! < 1474732433 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC version 8.0.1 for x86_64_unknown_linux) < 1474732433 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please report this as a GHC bug: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/reportabug < 1474732447 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a PAP object? < 1474732477 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: partially applied function < 1474732480 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1474732497 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have called it PAF then < 1474732649 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the P might be for payload, not sure. < 1474732664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just "partial application" < 1474732668 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://havelang.org if you can't decide between python or go < 1474732669 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :payload applied function < 1474732670 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AP being an application. < 1474732734 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: so it's python with the speed of go? < 1474732757 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that could be too < 1474733100 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d4c6:d02f:a4ca:91f8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474733119 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "enter" corresponds to a pattern match. < 1474734745 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d4c6:d02f:a4ca:91f8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474734986 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1289 < 1474734987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1289) < hppavilion[1]> alercah: Also, this isn't a PC thing- if it was PC, it wouldn't list ones for whites < 1474734997 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled quotes//1289s/ // < 1474735001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes// EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ GKennethR: he shou < 1474735004 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1289 < 1474735005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1289) alercah: Also, this isn't a PC thing- if it was PC, it wouldn't list ones for whites < 1474735030 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep '^< ' quotes < 1474735030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474735453 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f9d5:ff4d:b75:7dff JOIN :#esoteric < 1474735516 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made weight and balance calculation program in JavaScript but so far many things are missing including the plotting and tell you what the valid range for center of gravity is allowed to be. < 1474735574 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474735843 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f9d5:ff4d:b75:7dff QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474737835 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474737924 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474738864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49759&oldid=49758 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+174) 10/* Computational class */ By Zzo38's request < 1474739803 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any good SDL binding for JavaScript? < 1474739814 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not use HTML? < 1474740774 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know of any < 1474741117 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474741284 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474741453 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474742284 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, these farms were more complex than expected < 1474742435 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474743073 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck, df knows 155 kinds of seeds < 1474743089 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474743095 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am so not implementing all of these < 1474743097 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that suprising? < 1474743105 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ae you doing myname < 1474743107 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :155, man < 1474743116 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am writing a df like for android < 1474743133 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill happily test it for you ^_^ < 1474743187 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot do that much right now. you can dig, get wood, gather plans, produce barrels and put booze in them < 1474743200 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :155 kinds of seeds? Must be a gardener's heaven... *thinks of masses of gardens, arranged in such a perfect way such that all the seeds contrast their neighbors... < 1474743220 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, it's mostly different kinds of grain < 1474743247 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Seed < 1474743267 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farms are a huge step < 1474743280 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, i can start implementing needs after that < 1474743909 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474743933 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474743946 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made this C header file for a JavaScript addon maker http://sprunge.us/DDbS but now I don't know how to write the proper C++ code that would provide the implementations. Do you know? < 1474743980 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474743996 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds so disgusting, i don't even want to look at it < 1474744046 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is this an existing JavaScript addon maker that's widely used? or a new one? < 1474744063 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I need to make up a new one. < 1474744071 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are others but they don't work so well < 1474744084 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want the header file to allow C++ and C programs to communicate, you need to use an extern "C" { wrapper around the implementations < 1474744098 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript addon maker? < 1474744105 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, the C++ linker will be looking for a function called "js_value* js_array(js_context *, int argc, js_value **)" < 1474744119 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the C linker will be trying to call it just "js_array" < 1474744120 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they won't be able to communicate correctly < 1474744122 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops I forgot one thing, which is for the library to link back into the implementations of these functions. (SQLite does it by providing a structure that lists all of them.) < 1474744128 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... what does this mean... < 1474744139 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does C accept extern "C" {? I thought it should be conditional on the language... < 1474744141 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know that, but the C++ code can place extern "C" around the #include command for this isn't it? < 1474744148 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it doesn't, you need a conditional comment < 1474744165 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as long as you don't include any other header files from that header, it'd work I think < 1474744187 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can see that it doesn't including anything else from that header. < 1474744231 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1474744241 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the person using the header would need to look at the header's source code or documentation to know that < 1474744253 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474744253 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474744260 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474744261 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general if you want a file to be used, it helps to reduce the number of assumptions its users need to make < 1474744275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Only the implementation of the functions listed in the header are written in C++ though; other programs that include it are written in C and therefore don't need extern "C" < 1474744284 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1474744289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right < 1474744299 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why people normally use #ifdef __cplusplus wrappers < 1474744311 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to check for the language < 1474744406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The existing way for JavaScript addons is to write them in C++, and another library called "nan" is used to properly support different versions of Node.js. There are some other programs such as v8plus to write the addon in C, but v8plus doesn't even work on Linux. There are others too, but have various problems with different Node.js versions, etc. < 1474744412 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why this new kind should be needed. < 1474744503 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, maybe it's an idea not to use javascript < 1474744506 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, I am aware of that. Apparently things like "typedef struct js_value js_value" are wrong for C++, so I put "#ifndef __cplusplus", but I don't know if that should actually be needed. I have also modified a header file for another program I was writing an addon for, to add such a section < 1474744544 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474744640 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other program I was writing addon for, although it was written in C++, but name-mangling was disabled for add-ons, so in this way it was possible to write the addons in C, although a minor modification to the header file was needed, which I did.) < 1474745452 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474745564 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474745645 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474745794 0 :pelegreno__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474745803 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745855 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745855 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745880 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474745881 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745883 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745883 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745898 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474745909 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745933 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474745959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474746003 0 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746006 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746015 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474746015 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474746015 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474746016 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474746042 0 :zemhill____!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746125 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746132 0 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746134 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746163 0 :Elronnd!?@? 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not exactly novel. < 1474746464 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it was very noisy even for Freenode. < 1474746467 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1474746467 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746476 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not so much here, but on larger channels. < 1474746478 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why it happened < 1474746479 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-snwuktgawxssdjxa QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474746483 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746483 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746511 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746520 0 :\oren\_!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1474746525 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746525 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1474746532 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline QUIT :Client Quit < 1474746540 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746540 0 :pelegreno__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746540 0 :Yurume__!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746540 0 :erdic!~erdic@81.4.123.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746540 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746546 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi was giving me a lot of problems < 1474746549 0 :erdic!~erdic@81.4.123.134 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1474746549 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1474746549 0 :pelegreno__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1474746563 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't require me to restart irssi < 1474746572 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##chat is currently a *.net *.split warzone < 1474746578 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746625 0 :pelegreno__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746644 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746655 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746687 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : another blody netsplit < 1474746695 0 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746721 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas_: lot of disconection going on huh < 1474746724 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746741 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if my irssi was malfunctioning < 1474746766 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same process has been running since May 16th < 1474746769 0 :sparr!~sparr@104.131.1.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746770 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-myclglnkcbpdlkam JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746954 0 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474746957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474746967 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474746973 0 :int-e_!?@? 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NICK :diginet < 1474747533 0 :catern_!?@? NICK :catern < 1474747576 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747610 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747612 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump! < 1474747630 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747630 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747668 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 262 seconds < 1474747724 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747730 0 :izabera!~izabera@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1474747730 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747732 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1474747748 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747752 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747761 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :izalove < 1474747792 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747822 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747859 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:2841:62e4:cead:4d55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747918 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@2a01:4f8:190:32b1::b16b:b5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747920 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byinzggkeviklrib JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747924 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747939 0 :kline_!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747985 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1474747989 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474747998 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748206 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748281 0 :Apeironia!~Apeironia@2a03:8600:1001:4041::100c JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748356 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lcfikdtuhmpnodml JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748398 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748447 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748485 0 :Apeironia!~Apeironia@2a03:8600:1001:4041::100c PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1474748494 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748494 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1474748494 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748523 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474748533 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748584 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xsuntsydlnlivzsf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474748739 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1474748745 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1474749091 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749155 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :#freenode says it's a DDoS ... it's been a while < 1474749281 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474749295 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749399 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749417 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749428 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749502 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749520 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Changing host < 1474749520 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749521 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FthrNature/unleashed-pixel-dungeon/master/src/main/assets/plants.png what looks the most like a plump helmet? < 1474749543 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749546 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749547 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749565 0 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749577 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749578 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749587 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749587 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749588 0 :Yurume___!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749588 0 :alercah_!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749588 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749589 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-myclglnkcbpdlkam QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749589 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749589 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749589 0 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749590 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749590 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749590 0 :brandonson!~g8p8@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749590 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749590 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474749593 0 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-srilyplxarrakcqu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749610 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1474749611 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749614 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474749622 0 :heroux_!?@? 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NICK :Guest5060 < 1474758046 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758159 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474758176 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758318 0 :Guest5060!~freefull@bcdffda8.skybroadband.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474758464 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474758504 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758802 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758802 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ghjiihdfzwarwiqh JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758802 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758882 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474758902 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:4405:3e1b:4e36:5d0b JOIN :#esoteric < 1474759095 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:b146:f7c6:4032:a82a QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474759423 0 :lynn_!?@? NICK :lynn < 1474759436 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iuhmdjwwjoqpfpho QUIT :Changing host < 1474759436 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1474759436 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1474759436 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iuhmdjwwjoqpfpho JOIN :#esoteric < 1474759464 0 :brandonson!~g8p8@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1474759668 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474760568 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ouagxwzezqsbkgua JOIN :#esoteric < 1474760625 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474761463 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474761625 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474761733 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> the same process has been running since May 16th <-- you did get the message that irssi has a security flaw, right? < 1474761827 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask \oren\ <\oren\> the same process has been running since May 16th <-- you did get the message that irssi has a security flaw, right? < 1474761827 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474761918 0 :Cale_!?@? NICK :Cale < 1474761920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: only relevant for people who use TLS, though < 1474761991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also only relevant for people who use irssi version in [0.8.17,0.8.19] < 1474762003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_ isn't using TLS and is using (according to CTCP VERSION) 0.8.15 < 1474762004 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i thought there was a part that was relevant anyhow... < 1474762017 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that would do it. < 1474762040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe he cleverly set his version number back to fool attackers. < 1474762041 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see i'm running .17 on this host, although the admin _did_ apply the patch to it... < 1474762062 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Debian I'm using 0.8.17-1+deb8u1 which is said to be fixed. < 1474762079 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://irssi.org/security/irssi_sa_2016.txt ... nothing TLS specific there. < 1474762095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Maybe I misunderstood. < 1474762101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK then. < 1474762110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have confused two bugs. < 1474762114 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it says something about TLS, but that's a limitation of irssi's /restart command) < 1474762141 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write a new IRC client in JavaScript; currently the one I use is with PHP, but JavaScript is a better programming language I think. If I do that then I can also add TLS, and proper asynchronous stuff < 1474762144 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this host, the perl script i'm running isn't messing up tmux ... but tmux messes up itself in other ways :( < 1474762171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What about a Gopher-IRC bridge? < 1474762196 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think there isn't much point, although logs could be served using Gopher. < 1474762201 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0.8.15 may be fine though < 1474762213 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to say, and perhaps there were other bugs < 1474762219 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures that my admin would apply a patch in such a way that no one can see that it's a fixed version. i hope he at least did it right. < 1474762267 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A server that has a built-in gopher too that can be used to serve status information too, though, could be made up. < 1474762283 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474762283 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is annoying that he didn't fix it on hagbart. so i have a choice between two partially broken setups... < 1474762320 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could also write IRC server program with JavaScript too. < 1474762354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you have Perl enabled, there's apparently a workaround script you can install. < 1474762400 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474762409 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1474762471 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i already did. it messes up tmux, as i said, although strangely not on this host, where tmux is however broken in other ways. < 1474762471 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( if this is debian, check dpkg-query -W irssi .. 0.8.17-1+deb8u1 is the patched one. ) < 1474762480 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ooh thanks < 1474762504 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's got that one. < 1474762607 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think hagbart isn't debian then, explain why he didn't fix it. < 1474762621 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea how to find out the distribution
< 1474762633 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :uname -a doesn't tell what it is < 1474762646 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*explains < 1474762696 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you know a general linux command to find out which distribution you are using < 1474762803 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan, int-ello. < 1474762805 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I usually cat /etc/issue ... there's also lsb_release -idc < 1474762847 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\S < 1474762847 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel \r on an \m (\l) < 1474762853 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very helpful :P < 1474762876 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cat /etc/issue < 1474762876 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l < 1474762878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1474762878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Variable not in scope: etc :: [Doc] -> Docerror: < 1474762878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Variable not in scope: issue :: [Doc] -> Doc < 1474762887 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1474762887 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474762928 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it's fedora. as i vaguely suspected. < 1474762934 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, lsb_release is sort of standard (lsb = linux standard base) < 1474762943 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that worked < 1474763075 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^botsnack < 1474763087 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1474763420 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474763423 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1474763892 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very reliable logs today < 1474763904 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/logs/network/ < 1474763912 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/today// < 1474763931 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure today is exceptional hth < 1474763953 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you left a trailing space, that will not do < 1474764019 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474764052 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474764059 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474764097 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to say it's the end times, but clearly it's the day of judgement. < 1474764362 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: moo? < 1474764377 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1474764392 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is a good day for 찌개. < 1474764448 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/961.html < 1474764512 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fits. < 1474764532 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put pork belly in mine ^^ < 1474764561 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you can stomach it. < 1474764685 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is tempted to thwack oerjan, but will wait after he's done eating
< 1474764736 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1474765103 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhellonythellodwarf_. < 1474765110 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474765614 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, there has to be a limit to porthello complexity :-) < 1474766181 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :his523. it's just like hot peppers: you start off with the easy ones, then next thing you know you're wolfing down ghosts. < 1474767132 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:757c:1c17:d055:757c JOIN :#esoteric < 1474767204 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Quit: quit < 1474767816 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474767885 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: NOSY CHICKEN < 1474767949 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find -iname '*hello*' -a -perm -a=x < 1474767958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./bin/hello-world-in-any-language \ ./bin/hello \ ./share/hello \ ./src/ploki/examples/hello.pk < 1474767969 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find -iname '*port*' -a -perm -a=x < 1474767972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./bin/sport \ ./bin/joustreport \ ./.hg/store/data/git-master/contrib/fast-import \ ./.hg/store/data/git-master/contrib/p4import \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/dist/_exporter \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/dist/_exporter/lib/_exporter \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/cpan/_devel-_p_p_port \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/_porting \ ./.hg/store/data/ < 1474767990 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find -iname 'port*' -a -perm -a=x < 1474767994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/t/porting < 1474768060 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure you really want to look in .hg < 1474768095 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it poisoned the search results < 1474768162 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find -iname '*port*' -perm -a=x < 1474768165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./bin/sport \ ./bin/joustreport \ ./.hg/store/data/git-master/contrib/fast-import \ ./.hg/store/data/git-master/contrib/p4import \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/dist/_exporter \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/dist/_exporter/lib/_exporter \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/cpan/_devel-_p_p_port \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/_porting \ ./.hg/store/data/ < 1474768169 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1474768242 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find -iname '*port*' -a -perm -a=x | grep -v '\.hg' < 1474768246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./bin/sport \ ./bin/joustreport \ ./interps/fukyorbrane/report \ ./interps/bfjoust/report < 1474768293 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think those latter ones are working in HackEgo. < 1474768301 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/joustreport < 1474768302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/joustreport: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable < 1474768316 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg bin/joustreport < 1474768318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474768321 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/joustreport < 1474768323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-06-21 revert \ 2015-06-21 rm bin -r \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2013-02-13 revert 87c64ef250a0 \ 2013-02-13 revert 3 \ 2013-01-12 revert 1492 \ 2013-01-12 revert 4 \ 2012-12-09 revert 999 \ 2012-12-09 revert 0 \ 2012-06-08 < 1474768337 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` doag bin/joustreport | tac < 1474768339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-06-08 run echo '#!/bin/sh' >bin/joustreport \ 2012-06-08 run echo "echo 'http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/report.txt'" >>bin/joustreport \ 2012-06-08 run chmod +x bin/joustreport \ 2012-12-09 revert 0 \ 2012-12-09 revert 999 \ 2013-01-12 revert 4 \ 2013-01-12 revert 1492 \ 2013- < 1474768361 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474768374 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1474768434 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that one isn't very useful any longer. < 1474768463 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sport < 1474768464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :distort "${1:-/dev/stdin}" | spore < 1474768646 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474768844 0 :Moonheart08!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474768889 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474769306 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474769483 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474769701 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:757c:1c17:d055:757c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474770225 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474770343 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/spore < 1474770343 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 1 > /hackenv/tmp/spline; cat "${1-/dev/stdin}" > /hackenv/tmp/spout; spam < 1474770364 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/spam < 1474770365 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; len="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo -n "$line/$len:"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line+1))" > /hackenv/tmp/spline < 1474770374 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez < 1474770377 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1474770380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/16:s channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theory. \ 619) shachaf: wait, _you_ are in northumberland? No. whew we don't have room for more esolangers there. oerjan: Wait, *you* are in Northumberla < 1474770523 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very logical naming scheme, that feature. < 1474770551 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sport test < 1474770552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:ha < 1474770587 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "test 1 2 3 hello hi!" | sport < 1474770588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:test 1 2 3 hello hi! < 1474770589 0 :Moonheart08!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474770732 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` yes | nl | head -1000 | sport < 1474770733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/34: 1 y \ 2 y \ 3 y \ 4 y \ 5 y \ 6 y \ 7 y \ 8 y \ 9 y \ 10 y \ 11 y \ 12 y \ 13 y \ 14 y \ 15 y \ 16 y \ 17 y \ 18 y \ 19 y \ 20 y \ 21 y \ 22 y \ 23 y \ 24 y \ 25 y \ 26 y \ 27 y \ 28 y \ 29 y \ 30 y \ < 1474770751 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm tabs aren't very pretty < 1474771287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam is a great feature < 1474771325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see if I can figure out all those names. < 1474771381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam, spore = spam store?, sport = spore distort, spline = spam line, spout = spam out < 1474771385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :very easy < 1474771412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/sp* < 1474771413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spam \ bin/speek \ bin/spore \ bin/sport \ bin/spot \ bin/sprunge < 1474771463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speek = spam seek. or spout seek? < 1474771496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course there's 1 < 1474771515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/1 < 1474771516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\` "$@" |& sport < 1474771807 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474771963 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK! < 1474771990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/spot < 1474771991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Woof! < 1474771999 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've solved the last bug in the hangul generation software! < 1474772006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/spot < 1474772008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-06-21 revert \ 2015-06-21 rm bin -r \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2014-01-17 echo "echo Woof!" >bin/spot; chmod +x bin/spot < 1474772009 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/allchars.htm < 1474773043 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474773086 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/korean.PNG < 1474773096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474773144 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavellon[1] < 1474773352 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone who can judge the quality of korean fontery around? < 1474773360 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean typography < 1474773387 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fontery" <-- srsly brain, why do you invent such stupid words < 1474773465 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the more complex hangul sylables still look bad, but it seems they aren't used much < 1474775068 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lewd < 1474775068 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 13h 6m 11s ago: Jafet said 1h 56m 15s ago: at the risk of rapid cerebral impact for this chilly necro: I was referring to http://pizzachili.dcc.uchile.cl <-- in this case, your cerebral < 1474775068 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :impact is due to not quoting context for something i've forgotten ages ago -----### < 1474777238 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474777648 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474778537 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lead < 1474778537 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 10m 7d 2h 23m 19s ago: <\oren\_> oh its god damn tmux fucking up unicide <-- no problems with that character with tmux + irssi here < 1474778577 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already forgot what character is was < 1474778644 0 :\oren\_!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1474778654 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go. stupid _ < 1474778668 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lead < 1474778668 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 4h 40m 41s ago: <\oren\> the same process has been running since May 16th <-- you did get the message that irssi has a security flaw, right? < 1474778678 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no < 1474778681 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1474778718 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE < 1474778719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​à < 1474779476 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2673 0x2679 < 1474779476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♳♴♵♶♷♸♹ < 1474779595 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plastic type 1 thru 7 < 1474779796 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what characters should I add next? maybe Elvish! < 1474779817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, the Tengwar of Feanor to be exact < 1474782207 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474783100 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, done that. what next < 1474783135 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right what wikipedia article should I use for a korean sample? < 1474783143 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d1b0:10e7:e0bd:f3d4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474783322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌠ < 1474783324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌡ < 1474783325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tg < 1474783337 0 :Yurume___!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474783350 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1474783352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌠ < 1474783361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎮ dx < 1474783364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌡ < 1474783410 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENOINTEGRAND < 1474783422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx is the integrand < 1474783437 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1474783446 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have a hidden 1 there < 1474783459 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, dx is a form < 1474783472 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly, so you have no integrand < 1474783483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474783492 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a function to integrate < 1474783505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm integrating a form < 1474783552 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dx is defined as part of the notation to integrate < 1474783601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one definition < 1474783617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you objecting because i didn't specify a manifold? < 1474783671 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's assumed you're doing lagrange integration over the complexes unless otherwise specified < 1474783722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you hate it when people write < 1474783749 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the worst < 1474783827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌠ dx < 1474783829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎮ ──── < 1474783830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌡ x² < 1474783858 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Manyfold writes an analysis textbook, would it be called Manyfold's On Calculus? < 1474783894 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah it's awful < 1474783899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's great < 1474783902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :leibniz notation is too good < 1474783919 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay liebniz < 1474784295 0 :relrod_!?@? NICK :relrod < 1474784429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi relrod < 1474784437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard integral notation is actually pretty odd. < 1474784465 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1474784504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say I : (R -> R) -> {R -> R} is the indefinite integration operator. < 1474784546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I guess "∫ e dx" means something like I(\x. e)(x) < 1474784574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where e and the whole expression both have x free. < 1474784665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: How's the topology or whatever it was you were doing? < 1474784694 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I no longer remember. < 1474784702 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well I got through the category theory course last semester, but the prof made it very topology-focused, and I haven't taken topology yet so I was lost for part of it < 1474784709 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rather large part of it :( < 1474784714 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hadn't taught the course before < 1474784739 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he primarily does topology, so of course most of his examples drew from that < 1474784751 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you intend to use the indefinite integral there? < 1474784760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1474784767 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :∫ e dx < 1474784775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1474784806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: well, how can you be expected to learn anything? i think he owes you a topology < 1474784838 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1474784867 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm taking Real Analysis this semester...which is interesting because I suck at analysis. But assuming that goes okay, I'll be taking topology next semester. < 1474784879 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :that prof usually doesn't teach it though, he just researches it. < 1474784885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: You should take the sneaky path by readin _Topology via Logic_ by Vickers < 1474784891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading < 1474784899 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: He _loves_ that book. It's on my reading list < 1474784912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, then he can't be that bad. < 1474784940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That book is good if you're used to thinking about computer science and logic and things. < 1474784958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though the sorts of spaces it talks about aren't the sorts people usually talk about. < 1474784959 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's good at what he does. I think he could perhaps improve in how he conveys ideas to others, but he's really good at what he does. < 1474784960 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well because the indefinite integral isn't actually a function (R -> R) -> R -> R < 1474784970 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually a function (R -> R) -> R -> R -> R < 1474784971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: But I wrote (R -> R) -> {R -> R} < 1474784988 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you mean something other than implicit by the curlies? < 1474784992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean a set. < 1474785013 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed by R? < 1474785014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not good notation. < 1474785017 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fhkruhoxbezsoftk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474785019 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, no < 1474785025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can point out that it's indexed by R if you want. < 1474785035 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the result is indeed indexed < 1474785038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all I was saying was that it's a set of functions. < 1474785057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which happen to have the property that they all differ by a constant. < 1474785063 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1474785108 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :∫ e dx is more like I(\x . e) < 1474785112 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :though < 1474785119 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1474785121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's an expression in x < 1474785125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And C.) < 1474785153 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I guess you can see it that way < 1474785155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, index it by a real. < 1474785167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Well, there are many arguments about these things. < 1474785167 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I mean seeing it as an expression and not a function < 1474785173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you say dy/dx means? < 1474785185 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means you're a horrible person :P < 1474785206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have D : (R -> R) -> (R -> R), then the obvious meaning (to me) for dy/dx is D(\x. y)(x) < 1474785221 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not familiar with formalisms of leibniz notation, though I know it can be done < 1474785223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are some issues because Leibniz notation is so good. < 1474785238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not talking about infinitesimals or anything like that. < 1474785252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what people mean by the expression "dy/dx". Which is usually not divison. < 1474785289 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474785323 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1474785342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you believe they teach people how to do matrix multiplication before telling them what the individual numbers in a matrix actually mean? < 1474785349 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think of them as operating on expressions really though, at least not in the syntactic sense < 1474785351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they expect them to make any sense of it < 1474785366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would say that it implicitly operates on functions? < 1474785369 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474785387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you agree that dx^2/dx = 2x < 1474785395 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474785419 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So at least syntactically those things look like expressions. < 1474785425 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1474785445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Leibniz notation is much better than that. < 1474785456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say y^3 = x^2 < 1474785496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then dy/dx = 2x/3y^2 or something like that. < 1474785521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's say y^2 = x^2 < 1474785536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then dy/dx = x/y < 1474785552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though neither x nor y is a function of the one. < 1474785637 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there you're relying on implicitly viewing y as a function anyway < 1474785661 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real ambiguity comes before leibniz notation enters the picture < 1474785665 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is y \circ y? < 1474785681 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it x \mapsto x^4? is it not defined? < 1474785683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is circ? < 1474785685 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition < 1474785690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y isn't a function < 1474785703 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can't take its derivative < 1474785708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure you can. < 1474785718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a graph of all the points where y^2 = x^2 < 1474785730 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474785731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can ask what the slope of a line tangent to the graph is. < 1474785749 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but that's not a derivative, and in any case you're ascribing far more meaning < 1474785762 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention leaving open ambiguity when the graph fails the vertical line test < 1474785781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"slope of a tangent line" is a pretty good meaning for "derivative" < 1474785785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's not of a function. < 1474785986 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually wait < 1474786003 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :your example doesn't even work < 1474786021 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you're making a graph of all the points where y^2 = x^2 < 1474786044 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the union of the lines x = y and y = x < 1474786067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's kind of a boring graph < 1474786076 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does this derivative mean? < 1474786090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for any point (x,y), dy/dx = x/y < 1474786103 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what mathematical object is "dy/dx" in this case < 1474786116 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me you keep adding assumptions to the notation here < 1474786138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I assume you mean y = x and y = -x < 1474786140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that. < 1474786142 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yes < 1474786144 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :an X < 1474786156 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you even mean when you say "y^2 = x^2"? < 1474786157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's take a better example. < 1474786174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can say what I mean. I mean a graph. < 1474786192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y^2=x^2 < 1474786262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But let's take the graph defined by x^2 + y^2 = 1, which is a bit more interesting. < 1474786269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x^2%2By^2=1 < 1474786343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We agree that this is a graph, and that neither x nor y is a function of the other one, and that at every point (x,y) in that graph, there's a tangent line? < 1474786770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we don't agree. < 1474786804 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well what I mean is < 1474786832 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the mathematical thing you are trying to do here? < 1474786843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is exploration, nt exploitation, yo < 1474786844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1474786857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking aboout the great things that this notation lets you do. < 1474786870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe we can figure out how to formalize it. < 1474786893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the meaning of that graph, and the meaning of the tangent lines, is very intuitively obvious < 1474786897 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474786914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now we can say: d(x^2 + y^2) = d(1); 2x dx + 2y dy = 0; dy/dx = -x/y < 1474786922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's d? I don't know exactly. < 1474786935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at any point (x,y) on our circle, the slope of the tangent line is -x/y < 1474787057 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhmm < 1474787102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact this is true for any radius of circle. Imagine we were only looking at the top half of the circle, and we said something like y = sqrt(1-x^2). Then the derivative as a function of x would be different for each radius. But this method reveals that it's always the same in terms of (x,y). < 1474787173 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1474787212 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's pretty good. But you don't like this notation. < 1474787252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about this old trick people do: < 1474787273 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it when people don't understand what they are doing < 1474787300 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, I do agree that it shows something interesting, but that thing must be backed by a proof < 1474787318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = Ky; dy/y = K dx; ∫ dy/y = ∫ K dx; log(y) + C = kx + D < 1474787318 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to formalize d in such a way as to make what you did a proof? probably, but I don't know it < 1474787329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Yes. I agree wholeheartedly. < 1474787352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is a really good notation, and there must be a formalism that makes it work, more than just handwaving and special cases. < 1474787358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know what it is. < 1474787385 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in the common case where it's being used for explicit differentiation, viewing dy/dx as a syntactic shorthand for a complex expression is fine < 1474787397 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you must be careful how you manipulate differentials < 1474787409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give me a case where the obvious mafipulations don't work? < 1474787419 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :not offhand, no < 1474787420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it mafipulation because it's unjustified manipulation. < 1474787428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of one either. < 1474787523 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably something that inadvertently divides by 0 < 1474787539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you find one? < 1474787546 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too late < 1474787549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One where the differentials are to blame. < 1474787552 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll ponder it as I sleep maybe < 1474787557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgtm < 1474787561 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgtm < 1474787562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sergeant Mustard < 1474787569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lgtm < 1474787570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lgtm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474787803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: If you think of counterexamples or formalizations or anything, I'd be interested. < 1474788702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474789504 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474790307 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(such an amount of research level math might overflow this channel) < 1474790326 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474790357 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: into mathoverflow < 1474790359 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474793110 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7n2dpnnx3qe9x.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474794946 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474796819 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474797671 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474798014 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ouagxwzezqsbkgua QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1474799677 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474799718 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474801777 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474802066 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474802756 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/bike-manufacturer-reduces-delivery-damage-70-per-cent-printing-tv-box-285180 < 1474802839 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474802876 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474805540 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474805606 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474806245 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7n2dpnnx3qe9x.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474806309 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474806346 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474806346 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474806346 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1474806971 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474807647 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:4405:3e1b:4e36:5d0b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474807754 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did noah keep his bees? < 1474807759 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the ark hives < 1474808776 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474809274 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1474809334 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he have more than 2 bees? i guess 2 would probably have died horribly < 1474809335 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŏ_ô? < 1474809576 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: don' worry, he probably had two chickens too < 1474809623 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kon boily ha! < 1474809628 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always carry a spare chicken with you. < 1474809648 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヘッロレン！ < 1474809649 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may you help cross ravines < 1474809669 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it a river < 1474809676 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a raven? < 1474809685 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you judge typographical quality of these hangul?: http://orenwatson.be/korean.PNG < 1474809696 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall any ravens in the vicinity of Guybrush... hmm. < 1474809737 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: looks convincingly foreign *ducks* < 1474809810 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alien. < 1474809831 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: looks good to me. maybe stretch your ieungs a little bit more when they appear with a w- diphtong, and you're good to go. < 1474809882 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, the ieung on 의 is too round. < 1474809945 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah. I should definitely fix that one. I think I'll just adjust it manually < 1474810175 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of alien, has anyone been so far as to make a sans-serif tengwar font? < 1474810243 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a monospace one out there... < 1474810421 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: probably the most noticable problem is "고" and "과" (the vertical bit of ㅗ should be on the left side of the vertical stroke in ㄱ) < 1474810423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/workingOnTengwar.PNG I knocked these off yesterday, I'm not sure if they're any good < 1474810448 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: got it. I'll fix that < 1474810458 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise quite readable IMHO < 1474810520 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :tengwar's wikipedia article links to georgian script: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_scripts#Form_of_Asomtavruli_letters < 1474810875 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474810879 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tengwar alwats reminds me more of gujarati < 1474810924 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474810931 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe arabic < 1474811096 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474811501 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ghjiihdfzwarwiqh QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474811577 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474811624 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wjbqeltunjugdlnx JOIN :#esoteric < 1474817413 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MUSCULAR CHICKEN < 1474817769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474818036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ <\oren\_> I already forgot what character is was <-- well it is hard to @tell people who keep changing nicks all the time tdnh < 1474818037 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474818109 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474818129 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474818226 0 :Moonheart08!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474818303 0 :Moonheart08!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moooorning < 1474818573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoon < 1474820241 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bzuhqbocvptvydgs QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474820252 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vsxxdjbmtkqrlbti JOIN :#esoteric < 1474820400 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474820989 0 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474821072 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474821099 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I see you added hangul to your font! < 1474821102 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1474822640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats izalove -----###
< 1474822651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a bee sitting on you hth < 1474822655 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1474822774 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a bee like http://pbfcomics.com/246/ < 1474822819 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e 3**1.5 < 1474822820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474822825 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print 3**1.5 < 1474822826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.19615242270663 < 1474822900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily: don' worry, he probably had two chickens too <-- fourteen hth < 1474822908 0 :nitrix_!?@? NICK :nitrix < 1474822981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint 3**1.5 < 1474822982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.19615242270663 < 1474823025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :redundant command is redundant < 1474823056 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/perl-e < 1474823057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ perl -e "$@" < 1474823123 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e print 3**1.5 < 1474823124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.19615242270663 < 1474823577 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that seems a lot of chickens < 1474823680 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e $x=sqrt 3;print$x+$x+$x; "I don't know what you guys are doing, but I must join" < 1474823681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.19615242270663 < 1474823695 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lua -eprint(3^(3/2)) < 1474823695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.1961524227066 < 1474823708 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ruby -ep 3**1.5 < 1474823709 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ruby: not found < 1474823710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: seven pairs hth < 1474823718 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474823738 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, or two sevens < 1474823799 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474823800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well each pair is supposed to be one male and one female. which, come to think of it, is a bit weird for chickens. < 1474823983 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474824051 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474824140 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474824325 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474824330 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474824538 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474824594 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do please expound your deep knowledge of chicken < 1474824703 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474824737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my aunt once had some hth < 1474824752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alive ones, that is) < 1474824777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think you usually keep only one rooster < 1474824862 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did she keep brood hens or broilers? < 1474824903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the former < 1474824947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very sure. it's been more than 30 years... < 1474824951 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474825424 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474825433 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474825516 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474826576 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474826682 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474826689 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474826825 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474826843 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474827091 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474827176 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474827402 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474827465 0 :Moonheart08!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474827528 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474827528 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474827621 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474827633 0 :Moonheart08!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474828306 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474828337 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474828365 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474828842 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474828874 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474829345 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474829351 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474829583 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474829622 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474829734 0 :Moonheart08!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474830305 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :d < 1474830317 0 :d!?@? NICK :h < 1474830320 0 :h!?@? NICK :i < 1474830320 0 :i!?@? NICK :Guest36722 < 1474830328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474830330 0 :Guest36722!?@? NICK :j < 1474830332 0 :j!?@? NICK :k < 1474830362 0 :k!?@? NICK :Guest47811 < 1474830363 0 :Guest47811!?@? NICK :moon-e < 1474830528 0 :moon-e!?@? NICK :e2 < 1474831189 0 :e2!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474831355 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg4yqrpzbahaym0.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474831800 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :tachyon < 1474831815 0 :tachyon!?@? NICK :luxon < 1474833217 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474833268 0 :luxon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474833270 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :luxon < 1474833356 0 :luxon!?@? NICK :evilmoon < 1474833551 0 :evilmoon!?@? NICK :evilnoon < 1474833634 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474833905 0 :evilnoon!?@? NICK :insane < 1474833921 0 :insane!?@? NICK :evilnoon < 1474833925 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ی < 1474833927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+06CC ARABIC LETTER FARSI YEH \ UTF-8: db 8c UTF-16BE: 06cc Decimal: ی \ ی \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: AL (Right-to-Left Arabic) < 1474833983 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode­ < 1474833983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unicode­: not found < 1474833993 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ­ < 1474833995 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00AD SOFT HYPHEN \ UTF-8: c2 ad UTF-16BE: 00ad Decimal: ­ \ ­ \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1474834206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode cool, i can change the topic again | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | htt < 1474834207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474834209 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:35 -!- Moonheart08 [~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf] has joined #esoteric < 1474834212 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:46 -!- Zarutian [~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is] has joined #esoteric < 1474834215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:46 -!- Zarutian [~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] < 1474834219 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:47 -!- Zarutian [~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is] has joined #esoteric < 1474834222 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:55 -!- carado [~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] < 1474834225 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:55 -!- carado [~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net] has joined #esoteric < 1474834228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:03 -!- ais523 [~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] < 1474834231 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:03 -!- callforjudgement [~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523] has joined #esoteric < 1474834232 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rrgh < 1474834234 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:07 -!- callforjudgement [~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] < 1474834238 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474834242 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ? < 1474834252 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ک < 1474834252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+06A9 ARABIC LETTER KEHEH \ UTF-8: da a9 UTF-16BE: 06a9 Decimal: ک \ ک \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: AL (Right-to-Left Arabic) < 1474834264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ! a valid nick? < 1474834264 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode­ ais523 < 1474834265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unicode­: not found < 1474834268 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid bluetoth mouse is malfunctioning < 1474834281 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :selecting things on its own < 1474834283 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it is not < 1474834287 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how come \oren\ can spell unicode and evilnoon can't < 1474834290 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode a < 1474834291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474834301 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unicode < 1474834302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import re \ import sys, os \ import unicodedata \ def l(c): m = re.match('(?:U[+])?([0-9a-f]{1,5})$', c, re.I); return unicodedata.lookup(c) if m is None else unichr(int(m.group(1),16)) \ try: \ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ os.execvp("multico < 1474834305 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode­ ais523 < 1474834306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unicode­: not found < 1474834322 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode `unicode < 1474834323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+003C LESS-THAN SIGN] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0076 LATIN SMALL LETTER V] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0060 GRAVE ACCENT] [U+0075 LATIN SMALL < 1474834333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode `unicode < 1474834334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0060 GRAVE ACCENT] [U+0075 LATIN SMALL LETTER U] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] < 1474834343 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that looks like it was spelled correctly… < 1474834354 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode de­ ai < 1474834354 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because im fooling with you, (SOFT HYPHEN) < 1474834355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+00AD SOFT HYPHEN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] < 1474834358 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he put a soft hyphen < 1474834362 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there we go < 1474834371 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the shy just before you told me about it < 1474834382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which if you had a good font, you'd be able to see < 1474834395 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that defeat the point of a soft hyphen? < 1474834399 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474834404 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474834428 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are good for messing with people :P < 1474834455 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilnoon: nah, I was fairly convinced there was a hidden character or homograph character in there somewhere < 1474834457 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly evilnoon < 1474834469 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just took me a while to find it < 1474834522 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SOFT HYPHEN)s are also good for messing with e *winks at firefly) < 1474834563 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though shy's was how e messed with one < 1474834663 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 20AF < 1474834664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​₯ < 1474834675 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474834683 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474834698 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that character is an interesting one because it never actually appeared on the greek drachma notes < 1474834702 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 00AF < 1474834703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯ < 1474834706 0 :evilnoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 00AD < 1474834708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​­ < 1474834764 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, notes and coins bore 'Δρχ' on them < 1474834820 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo `unicode­ ais523 | cat -c < 1474834821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1474834824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo `unicode­ ais523 | cat -v < 1474834825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1474834831 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ' `unicode­ ais523' | cat -v < 1474834832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ `unicodeM-BM-- ais523 < 1474834836 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1474834838 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that, soft hyphen < 1474835121 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :__builtin_ybden < 1474835298 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474835695 0 :evilnoon!?@? NICK :qwerty < 1474835704 0 :qwerty!?@? NICK :qwertyuiop[]\ < 1474835714 0 :qwertyuiop[]\!?@? NICK :qwertyuiop[]\asd < 1474835733 0 :\oren\!?@? NICK :stopchangingnick < 1474835741 0 :stopchangingnick!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1474835754 0 :qwertyuiop[]\asd!?@? NICK :luxon < 1474835831 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lead < 1474835831 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 4h 56m 34s ago: <\oren\_> I already forgot what character is was <-- well it is hard to @tell people who keep changing nicks all the time tdnh < 1474836199 0 :luxon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1474836199 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1474836317 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; grep -l invalid * < 1474836325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: ¯\_(ツ)_: Is a directory \ grep: icbm: Is a directory \ grep: le: Is a directory \ grep: ¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: ¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ ☾_ \ ørjan \ reflection < 1474836340 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ☾_ < 1474836340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☾_ is moon_'s lawful twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. He sometimes eats papers. < 1474836356 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1474836357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1474836363 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. < 1474836426 0 :luxon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is anti ☾_, he sometimes spits out papers
< 1474836433 0 :luxon!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1474836459 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moon__ < 1474836471 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then, somone clamed the nickname 'moon_' < 1474836503 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocoon is free < 1474836512 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im good < 1474836515 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoon < 1474836516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cocoon was built by the fal'Cie, and floats above Gran Pulse. < 1474836523 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :truth < 1474836553 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1474836554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperenchilada about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1474836565 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474836578 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? music < 1474836579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :music? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474836583 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1474836591 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is music not a tanebvention? < 1474836609 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb didn't invent everything, you know < 1474836621 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwisdom music is one of few things taneb did not invent < 1474836621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: addwisdom: not found < 1474836639 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn music/The result was a short burst of the most hideous cacophony in G minor. < 1474836643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «music» < 1474836662 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? music < 1474836663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result was a short burst of the most hideous cacophony in G minor. < 1474836717 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn the most hideous cacophony in G minor/The Most Hideous Cacophony in G Minor is a musical work often incorrectly attributed to Beethoven and/or Taneb < 1474836721 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «the most hideous cacophony in g minor» < 1474836739 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the most hideous cacophony in G mino < 1474836740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most hideous cacophony in G mino? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474836743 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the most hideous cacophony in G minor < 1474836744 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Most Hideous Cacophony in G Minor is a musical work often incorrectly attributed to Beethoven and/or Taneb < 1474836753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the context it should be Bach, not Beethoven. < 1474836771 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1474836785 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn the most hideous cacophony in G minor/The Most Hideous Cacophony in G Minor (Op. -3) is a musical work often incorrectly attributed to Bach and/or Taneb < 1474836788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «the most hideous cacophony in g minor» < 1474836792 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) < 1474836811 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on something with a friend but given I don't have access to a Rust compiler right now I've handwritten the code < 1474836840 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474836840 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse JOIN :#esoteric < 1474836846 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :evening ladies < 1474836854 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome evilipse < 1474836857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04evilipse: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1474836876 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :noice < 1474836879 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilipse: hai < 1474836896 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiya < 1474837009 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego's prefix is `, ` runs a script with a single argument, `` runs valid bash < 1474837042 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric : < 1474837052 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474837053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474837064 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo < 1474837068 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`stat advice < 1474837068 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1474837068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File: `advice' \ Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 1024 directory \ Device: 12h/18d Inode: 927683 Links: 2 \ Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) Gid: ( 0/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2016-09-25 00:49:20.000000000 +0000 \ Modify: 2016-05-03 23:15:07.000000000 +0000 \ Change: 2016-05-03 23:15:07.000000000 +0000 \ B < 1474837068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1474837074 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami < 1474837075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 < 1474837082 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474837104 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego is built off a custom sandbox made by Gregor (hasent been seen in a while) < 1474837109 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: do i try and break it < 1474837117 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste advice < 1474837117 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :go ahead, they dont care :P < 1474837119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/advice < 1474837130 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the advice tho < 1474837141 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e thats a invalid file < 1474837150 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf ~ < 1474837152 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.......o < 1474837152 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1474837171 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... pleasedont. < 1474837174 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`>~ < 1474837175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: >~: not found < 1474837184 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`~ < 1474837184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ~: not found < 1474837187 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ~ < 1474837188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /tmp: Is a directory < 1474837188 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm < 1474837189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: missing operand \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1474837191 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf < 1474837191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837195 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf 1 < 1474837195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1474837199 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf ~ < 1474837200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1474837220 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I can see it's a directory, but I wonder why it's not in the repo < 1474837227 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls advice < 1474837228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837228 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1474837231 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etherium was forked? :/ < 1474837238 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilipse: we can rollback you know < 1474837249 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: old news, or did they do that again? < 1474837262 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old news (from this year) < 1474837263 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/itslukej/ComputerCrashyCrashy/master/Main.py < 1474837264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2016-09-25 20:01:00-- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/itslukej/ComputerCrashyCrashy/master/Main.py \ Resolving raw.githubusercontent.com (raw.githubusercontent.com)... failed: Name or service not known. \ wget: unable to resolve host address `raw.githubusercontent.com' < 1474837267 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :sick < 1474837273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I mean that was more than a month ago ;-) < 1474837277 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474837291 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome jeffl35 < 1474837292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02jeffl35: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1474837296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help fetch < 1474837297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1474837386 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run lci < 1474837386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: lci: command not found < 1474837389 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1474837446 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: poke < 1474837449 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooo < 1474837451 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474837452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474837458 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: did you make hackego? < 1474837462 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no. < 1474837471 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor (hasent been seen in a while) did < 1474837476 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 3 months even... time passes so quickly. < 1474837484 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :``rm -rf ~ < 1474837485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `rm: not found < 1474837491 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -rf ~ < 1474837492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/tmp': Permission denied < 1474837496 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474837497 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1474837500 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474837504 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474837512 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod ~ 777 -R < 1474837512 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done < 1474837513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: invalid mode: `/tmp' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1474837520 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 777 ~ -R < 1474837521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/tmp': Operation not permitted < 1474837523 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474837523 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -al / < 1474837524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474837525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 32 \ drwxr-xr-x 15 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:05 . \ drwxr-xr-x 15 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:05 .. \ drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 4096 Jan 29 2014 bin \ drwxr-xr-x 3 0 0 4096 Jan 29 2014 dev \ drwxr-xr-x 4 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:05 etc \ drwxr-xr-x 27 5000 5000 4096 Sep 25 19:53 hackenv \ drwxr-xr-x 3 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:05 home \ d < 1474837538 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $SHELL < 1474837539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sh < 1474837540 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 777 / -R < 1474837549 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474837550 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` node < 1474837554 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nodejs < 1474837556 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i break it < 1474837558 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474837565 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash < 1474837565 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehee < 1474837566 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will end in 30 seconds or a minute, depends < 1474837574 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there _is_ a timeout < 1474837588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474837595 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 777 / -R < 1474837595 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 777 / -R < 1474837600 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1474837604 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilipse: i recommend you stop < 1474837606 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474837609 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1474837611 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps aux < 1474837614 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1474837618 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont abuse the darn thing :P < 1474837622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474837623 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :make me < 1474837626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4/features': Operation not permitted \ < 1474837627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4/features': Operation not permitted \ < 1474837629 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its slow, it runs on the same server as the wiki ( i beleive) < 1474837630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND \ 0 1 0.0 0.1 1012 272 ? S 20:07 0:00 /init \ 0 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 20:07 0:00 [kthreadd] \ 0 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 20:07 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] \ 0 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? < 1474837630 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1474837634 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 000 / -R < 1474837635 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` top < 1474837645 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1474837646 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1474837648 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` htop < 1474837653 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes HackEgo
< 1474837656 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1474837659 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie halp < 1474837660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4/features': Operation not permitted \ < 1474837661 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiddies < 1474837661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: htop: command not found < 1474837675 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kids in a candy store at night < 1474837679 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1474837692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837692 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: lets add a lolcode interpreter to otherbot :P < 1474837693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837698 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1474837699 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837700 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -al < 1474837701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837705 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -al / < 1474837705 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhhhh < 1474837706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837708 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1474837709 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1474837711 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1474837723 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e i think i broke something halp, either me or them < 1474837723 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 000 / -R < 1474837724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837736 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474837738 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474837739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: repository /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env not found! < 1474837739 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION high fives
< 1474837745 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION high fives jeffl35
< 1474837747 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1474837755 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did it < 1474837756 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1474837769 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs screaming
< 1474837774 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PART #esoteric :"FIZZIE HALP" < 1474837780 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1474837784 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did it < 1474837789 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't --no-preserve-root yet < 1474837799 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474837810 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm --help < 1474837811 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837816 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474837816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: repository /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env not found! < 1474837817 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $SHELL < 1474837817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837819 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sh < 1474837819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837825 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sh -c 'echo $SHELL' < 1474837826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837835 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -alR / < 1474837836 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently hackego suffered annihilation < 1474837836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837839 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :we bork it < 1474837840 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1474837841 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :w000000000 < 1474837907 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie? int-e? the mercuial is down < 1474837915 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the repository is gone < 1474837923 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you did was to remove all permissions from the hg repo directory. < 1474837933 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was evilipse and jeffl35 < 1474837935 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I will need to revert back a bit manually. < 1474837945 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: not me < 1474837948 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was eclipse < 1474837952 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -alR / < 1474837953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474837956 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ^ < 1474837956 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1474837988 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the sandbox stuff wasn't apparently really expecting that. < 1474838007 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod -Rfv 777 / < 1474838007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474838011 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they found a way to bonk it. might want to patch that < 1474838017 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474838032 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF you know how Gregor's sandbox software works < 1474838080 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just looking at a suitable commit to revert back to (plus how to do it), because I'd rather not have those all-777 permissions everywhere, they look spectacularly ugly. < 1474838101 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :942e964c81c1 should do it, iots the first one before they came along < 1474838111 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 942e964c81c1 was fine. were the chmods actually committed? < 1474838114 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the one i reverted it back to repeatedly < 1474838155 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Only the "chmod 777 / -R" is in. < 1474838168 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity < 1474838216 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474838257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474838263 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That took quite a while. < 1474838267 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474838270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474838337 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le\rn evilipse\ the most evil of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1474838337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: le\rn: not found < 1474838351 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1474838352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 7z \ 7za \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ < 1474838358 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the other sort of slash. < 1474838364 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -alR / < 1474838365 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/: \ total 32 \ drwxr-xr-x 15 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:19 . \ drwxr-xr-x 15 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:19 .. \ drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 4096 Jan 29 2014 bin \ drwxr-xr-x 3 0 0 4096 Jan 29 2014 dev \ drwxr-xr-x 4 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:19 etc \ drwx--x--x 27 5000 5000 4096 Sep 25 20:17 hackenv \ drwxr-xr-x 3 0 0 0 Sep 25 20:19 < 1474838369 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn evilipse/ the most evil of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1474838371 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «evilipse» < 1474838381 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That extra space in the beginning is a bit silly. < 1474838392 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :o: < 1474838401 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evilipse < 1474838401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ the most evil of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1474838405 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i am evil indeed < 1474838432 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've seen so far, I think "obnoxious" is a better adjective. < 1474838450 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn evilipse/ the most obnoxious of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1474838452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «evilipse» < 1474838493 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -alR /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env < 1474838498 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -alR /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env < 1474838500 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env: No such file or directory < 1474838515 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a artifact of the bot's main script < 1474838536 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -alR /home/../home/../././././../home/./././././hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env < 1474838538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /home/../home/../././././../home/./././././hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env: No such file or directory < 1474838600 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm --no-preserve-root -rf /home < 1474838601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/sandbox': Read-only file system \ rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/revert': Read-only file system \ rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits': Read-only file system \ rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/fe < 1474838604 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a path that makes sense inside the environment the commands run in. < 1474838616 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 000 / -R < 1474838620 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474838624 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*scree* < 1474838626 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that's just *stupid*. < 1474838626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474838642 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if hackego has a block list, use it < 1474838684 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some sort of a thing, but I'm not terribly familiar with it. < 1474838709 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cmake < 1474838710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474838714 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474838719 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` git clone https://github.com/justinmeza/lci && cd lci < 1474838720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474838723 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse JOIN :#esoteric < 1474838726 0 :evilipse!watching@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1474838730 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right Time-Wrap borked it < 1474838739 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: dont look now, but evilipse decided to chmod 000 / -R < 1474838759 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: where? hackego? < 1474838764 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1474838768 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy enough to fix < 1474838772 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's not. < 1474838780 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDd < 1474838781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, does `revert not handle file modes? < 1474838789 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has to manually repair it < 1474838792 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` ls < 1474838793 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474838793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474838794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474838801 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it borks the bot entirely < 1474838802 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: `revert does, but the sandbox is all confused if there's no access to the repo working directory. < 1474838810 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So I need to manually chmod, then revert. < 1474838815 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case maybe we've found a second way to break the bot < 1474838832 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i ddi < 1474838833 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was quite pleased with myself when I (admittedly inadvertently) broke `revert < 1474838833 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The stupid part here is that it was already done once, and then just repeated. < 1474838834 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :*did < 1474838837 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474838838 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it displayed an error message every time < 1474838851 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC that still hasn't been fixed < 1474838873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to figure out if freenode's chanserv has some sort of auto-timed ban feature, actually. < 1474838908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so; I've only seen the eir service bot handle ban timeouts. < 1474838921 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can timed akick < 1474838929 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1474838939 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1474838941 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :a timed akick < 1474838959 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe third time will be the charm. < 1474838963 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is there a tr_60.cmd script with a hard-coded list of nicks? < 1474838967 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1474838968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474838974 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: There was something like that, yes. < 1474838977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474838984 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Though a nick-based list isn't exactly the most robust thing in the world. < 1474838987 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban < 1474838997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/ext4/features/meta_bg_resize': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/ext4/features/batched_discard': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/ext4/features/lazy_itable_init': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/cgroup': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu0': Permission < 1474839015 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursive rm /is/ something that the bot should be able to guard against < 1474839020 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that may also be the right place to fix up permissions... though I'm a bit confused by the fact that they are getting messed up permanently in the first place. < 1474839026 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1474839027 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474839028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ factor \ good \ hw \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quotes \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474839046 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, it's even possible it'd delete the incorrect permissions and let the revert restore the correct ones < 1474839053 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i find more ways to break it? < 1474839063 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways i want my lolcode interpreter < 1474839067 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although bin seems to be missing < 1474839069 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, they aren't, really. The chmod 000 just sets the working copy directory permissions, and doesn't commit anything. < 1474839075 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :``l* < 1474839076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `l*: not found < 1474839076 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` git clone https://github.com/justinmeza/lci && cd lci < 1474839077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `: not found < 1474839092 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` curl icanhazip.com < 1474839092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `: not found < 1474839093 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that's the weirdest. < 1474839103 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :` curl icanhazip.com < 1474839103 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 58b9ee8f97a7 < 1474839104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1474839106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, it seems it deleted advice, bin, and ibin < 1474839110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474839113 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and left everything else the same? < 1474839117 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeaahhhhhh boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii < 1474839119 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah. I think that might've been the timeout. < 1474839126 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 942e964c81c1 < 1474839127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474839128 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` git clone https://github.com/justinmeza/lci && cd lci < 1474839128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: git: command not found < 1474839132 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1474839138 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unzip < 1474839139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: unzip: command not found < 1474839142 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: it mostly doesn't have internet access < 1474839148 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1474839163 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no git < 1474839177 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474839195 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably Gregor's peculiarities, he's sort of a mercurial guy. < 1474839223 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1474839229 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your lucky fizzie may be nice and throw the git repository in the bot for you < 1474839248 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just like lolcode for some random reason < 1474839263 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: hackego does not support multiline < 1474839264 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's very well-suited for IRC, isn't it a bit verbose? < 1474839270 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAI 1.2, I HAZ A POKE, GIMMEH POKE, VISIBLE "I POKES :{POKE}", KTHXBYE < 1474839274 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*HAS < 1474839285 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine < 1474839291 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1474839299 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's a built-in `fetch command that has internet access, you can download a tarball. < 1474839302 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which sh < 1474839303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sh < 1474839309 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -f /bin/sh < 1474839310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/bin/sh': Read-only file system < 1474839312 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474839323 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: thre is a article for it on the esolang wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/LOLCODE < 1474839326 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :could use some updating < 1474839328 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: i saw < 1474839337 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1474839345 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tell people to go to wikipedia < 1474839349 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather edit wikipedia < 1474839350 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:2841:62e4:cead:4d55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474839364 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the wikipedia article is fine except for file i/o) < 1474839393 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esolang wiki article contains more info than the wikipedia article < 1474839394 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1474839403 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm irritated that the permissions on the working directory prevent it from executing any command, even if it's in /bin. But I only know some bits and pieces of the bot, and they're probably outdated. < 1474839436 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yeah, it's a bit scow. < 1474839439 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gleaned from gregor's public repos) < 1474839480 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes that \oren\ gets over the Bluetoothache.
< 1474839502 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION
< 1474839512 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION
< 1474839586 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybode know an android app that lets you do basic image processing? most stuff i find just puts filters over everything < 1474839600 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It might even be the UML refusing to run if given a --translate-write path with no permissions; I could imagine it trying to stat it or something. < 1474839682 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; I seem to recall some logfile somewhere, but at least the main log (with all input/output) had no error messages in it. < 1474839724 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, darn, if the mount target directory isn't accessible, the mount call will probably fail. < 1474839752 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are quite a few things mounted directly under /hackenv < 1474839828 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474839850 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: please state the purpose of having otherbot here >_> < 1474839858 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, at least .hg) < 1474839940 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-part #esoteric < 1474839941 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PART #esoteric : < 1474839942 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474839975 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: At any rate, since `revert runs outside, as an easy fix it could do some sanity-restoring of the working copy first, since it then is going to run the 'hg revert' on it anyway. < 1474840085 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. In fact, ensuring that $HACKENV has +rwx for the user could just be enough, because then the mercurial repo is readable, and mercurial might be smart enough to figure out the rest. < 1474840097 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474840275 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also scow how the web repository browser goes inaccessible when the working copy permissions are bad. Makes it harder to see what has happened so far. Maybe the whole transact logic should just in general enforce u+rwx on the env directory. < 1474840280 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice to speculate, but it's not like we've gotten around to fixing the previous issue either. I don't want to too much to the existing bot instance because I don't know if Gregor's actually "using" it still, and it might complicate future updates if I do a patch that's not in whatever source control he's using. < 1474840317 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe a shower will help. < 1474840374 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, my CaC has 8 days uptime and still no write or read errors on sda! < 1474840386 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's some sort of record. < 1474840598 0 :moon__!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-help < 1474840598 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use 'help ' < 1474840650 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-poke moon__ < 1474840650 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes moon__
< 1474840652 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :teehee < 1474840659 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're pokable now < 1474840683 0 :moon__!?@? NICK :moonythedwardf < 1474840686 0 :moonythedwardf!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474840695 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please save that for the bots channel :P < 1474840920 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1474840923 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1474840931 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1474840932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperenchilada about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1474840945 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474840974 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric-blah < 1474840975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric-blah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474841025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* 10New user account < 1474841048 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if mr/ms/mrs new user will get on the channel < 1474841121 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:9c21:faae:2ad9:e90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474841143 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Cale new? < 1474841157 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome cale #hopefully i did this right < 1474841160 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09cale: 02#hopefully: 06i: 13did: 04this: 07right: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 0 < 1474841187 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` relcome cale #hopefully i did this right < 1474841188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02cale: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1474841297 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: who's monqy anyways? < 1474841341 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not particularly new < 1474841381 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale is an oldtimer who has recently found the way to #esoteric. < 1474841391 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474841408 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: who was monqy < 1474841421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49760&oldid=49749 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+247) 10 < 1474841440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474841450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I've also not been on this channel for most of its existence... I don't recall monqy) < 1474841452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Minebit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49761&oldid=46230 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+171) 10added detail about computational class with infinite data tape < 1474841475 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:9c21:faae:2ad9:e90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab, I'm actually moving this computer :) < 1474841510 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:9c21:faae:2ad9:e90 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474841549 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like someone hit the 'random esolang' button < 1474841564 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1474841564 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1474841577 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: dont test it in here >_> < 1474841578 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lol HAI 1.2,VISIBLE "OHAI",KTHXBYE < 1474841582 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :test it in your channel. < 1474841583 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1474841621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:CatIsFluffy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49762 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+72) 10Created page with "I made the [[Talk:Quiney|Quiney interpreter]] and [[Syms]]. Good for me." < 1474841678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:50.161.94.11314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49763&oldid=46320 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+49) 10 < 1474841811 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474841860 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2, VISIBLE "OHAI", KTHXBYE < 1474841861 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474841862 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error opening file '/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/lcipadcode'. < 1474841864 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474841877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Lazy evaluation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49764&oldid=42771 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+1) 10Finished article by request < 1474841878 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1474841878 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1474841882 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2, VISIBLE "OHAI", KTHXBYE < 1474841883 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474841883 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHAI < 1474841891 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, lolcode < 1474841921 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2, I HAS A POKE, POKE R "moonythedwarf", VISIBLE "I POKES :{POKE}", KTHXBYE < 1474841924 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474841925 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHAI < 1474841935 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to -padclr < 1474841935 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-padclr < 1474841940 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2, I HAS A POKE, POKE R "moonythedwarf", VISIBLE "I POKES :{POKE}", KTHXBYE < 1474841943 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474841943 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I POKES moonythedwarf < 1474841945 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-padclear < 1474841946 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and test in ##jeffl35 damnit < 1474841946 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1474842056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Syms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49765&oldid=46587 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (-9) 10Hi! < 1474842146 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474842177 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For aircraft weight and balance calculation the plot will have an envelope that has a polygon that it is necessary for the plot to be inside of. Is such polygon guaranteed to be monotone or other properties? < 1474842205 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1474842205 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1474842243 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474842355 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: doesn't look that way: https://sites.google.com/site/aerodynamics4students/table-of-contents/aircraft-performance-1/flight-envelope < 1474842430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :even less convex: http://s6.aeromech.usyd.edu.au/aerodynamics/index.php/sample-page/aircraft-performance/flight-envelope/ < 1474842434 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2,I HAS A YAY,YAY R "IOVOID",YAY,WTF?,OMG "IOVOID",VISIBLE "PING.IO",GTFO,OMG "JEFFL35",VISIBLE "OHAI JEFF",GTFO,OMGWTF,VISIBLE "OHAI",GTFO,OIC,KTHXBYE < 1474842440 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474842440 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PING.IO < 1474842456 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: verbose but workable :) /me pokes jeffl35 < 1474842460 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474842474 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and don't forget padclr < 1474842479 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-padclr < 1474842483 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: can you make padclr run automatically after lolr < 1474842486 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people don't like die < 1474842494 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because once you KTHXBYE you can't really add anything to it < 1474842497 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i'll do it < 1474842498 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: feel free to add it _urself_ < 1474842586 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-relado < 1474842588 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1474842588 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1474842600 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2,VISIBLE "lol",KTHXBYE < 1474842600 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474842601 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474842604 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474842604 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/lcipadcode:1: expected HAI at: end of file < 1474842607 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1474842617 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That looks different from the weight and balance plots that I have seen, and I do not see weight and balance calculation mentioned there. < 1474842786 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, putting a lolcode thing on HackEgo would be quite okay, though you'd likely need to find/make a tarball to get it there. And you could also add commands for a pad-like thing using a /hackenv/tmp/pad file for unversioned state. < 1474842797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plots I meant have weight plotted on the Y axis and position on the X axis. < 1474842819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49766&oldid=49055 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+29) 10Turing-complete category < 1474842833 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i understand that, me and jeffl develop otherbot in javascript, a language we are familiar with, i may try and tackle it for hackego however < 1474842856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49767&oldid=49766 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+0) 10 < 1474842879 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's fine too. < 1474842967 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I hadn't logged in to bitbucket for so long, they've completely revamped their account system as well. < 1474842994 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad hia 1.2 < 1474843006 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-padclr < 1474843012 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ad HAI 1.2 < 1474843016 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2 < 1474843078 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad VISIBLE "HAI WORLD" < 1474843083 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad KTHXBYE < 1474843085 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474843085 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error opening file '/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/lcipadcode'. < 1474843098 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. Atlassian's account verification thing sends an HTML-only email, and the HTML-only email contains < 1474843165 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1474843197 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what's in the images, because the verify-my-email link is also in the text. < 1474843204 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll quiz me on the images later. < 1474843246 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The verify link is 520 characters long.) < 1474843412 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg4yqrpzbahaym0.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474843421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NRSRSSOMN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49768&oldid=39323 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+154) 10 < 1474843538 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-list < 1474843538 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: echo ping pong eval flushq help list use store cash inv savecstate buy sell give kick ban unban op deop attack poke join part reload whois nick pyc pad pyr giac befr padclr lol lolr < 1474843588 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-list < 1474843589 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: echo ping pong eval flushq help list use store cash inv savecstate buy sell give kick ban unban op deop attack poke join part reload whois nick pyc pad pyr giac befr padclr lolr < 1474843632 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, now it runs befunge and lolcode < 1474843633 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1474843642 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1474843650 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's even more suitable for IRC. < 1474843655 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its storming outside < 1474843687 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is? < 1474843709 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: okay. take https://www.tc.gc.ca/media/images/ca-publications/chart1b.jpg then. (see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_%28aeronautics%29) < 1474843739 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge. < 1474843745 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474843762 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1474843783 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tswett < 1474843800 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1474843815 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the perfect programming language (that can be ran by a computer) would be for IRC < 1474843874 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe if you don't download the images from the server then it won't let you verify, lol < 1474843879 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Javascript? < 1474843899 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: annoying to sandbox safely, especially on a bot written in it (otherbot) < 1474843948 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: my friend has broken every single javascript sandbox in existence < 1474843955 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: you can pass your code to something that runs in qemu < 1474843958 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including math.js, the VM module, etc < 1474843971 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: that's no longer a sandbox, lol, that's virtualization < 1474843986 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a safe sandbox < 1474843987 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval 1+1+1+1+1 < 1474843987 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1474843996 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-calc < 1474844001 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we dont have time to set that up a of now izalove < 1474844002 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: including, say, Firefox? < 1474844014 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no, i mean in node.js < 1474844018 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: there's geirha/shbot on github < 1474844020 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: O, OK. It isn't a polygon, although it is still seeming monotone property. < 1474844030 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: calc was replaced by -giac < 1474844032 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like something that is written in javascript but wishes to safely execute js code < 1474844035 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: yeah, ik < 1474844046 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something sandboxable, the only other things that come to my mind are Lua and .NET. < 1474844047 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-giac solve(32x^23-31x^2+1,x) < 1474844047 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Help file /usr/share/giac/doc/local/aide_cas not found Added 0 synonyms Warning, argument is not an equation, solving 32*x^23-31*x^2+1=0 list[-0.179605302027,0.179605302027,0.996921666093] // Time 0.01 // Total time 0.01 < 1474844052 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1474844063 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and don't forget Java. < 1474844065 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have version 6 of Node.js? If so, then you can use proxy objects. < 1474844081 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: well with pypy-c-sandbox, python (rather limited) is sandboxable < 1474844087 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pyc efef < 1474844088 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Traceback (most recent call last): | File "app_main.py", line 72, in run_toplevel | File "app_main.py", line 578, in run_it | File "", line 1, in | NameError: global name 'efef' is not defined | [Subprocess exit code: 1] | < 1474844117 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pyr < 1474844118 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You dont have a valid codepad! < 1474844174 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if one of you can make a sandbox Iovoid cannot break, then i will use that for JS < 1474844179 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt you can < 1474844189 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When using Node.js's VM module there are many considerations to make when executing sandboxed code. For one thing, to make the sandbox object with no prototype. < 1474844220 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll look into it < 1474844222 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: What version of Node.js are you using though? < 1474844227 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill check < 1474844243 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: when iovoid reported the bug, they were like "oh well it wasn't designed for that" < 1474844248 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1474844253 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he broke math.js too < 1474844263 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with constructors and such < 1474844279 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aand math.js is a _CALCULATOR_ < 1474844295 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35:~/workspace $ node -v | < 1474844299 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow cloud9 < 1474844308 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. we cant afford a server right now, but thats old < 1474844308 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -calc x=f.constructor("return process.exit()");x() < 1474844310 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it dies < 1474844326 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: what < 1474844329 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there are things like that that can be done. < 1474844339 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloud9 uses node v4.5.0 jeffl < 1474844345 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, don't bring external functions into the sandbox exposed! < 1474844381 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: we may try using a custom compiled copy of google's v8 engine for JS < 1474844389 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can create a function inside of the sandbox instead. < 1474844408 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you install the latest version of Node.js? Version 4.5.0 is too old < 1474844410 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now, another suggustion please? :P < 1474844433 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i dunno if cloud9 workspaces would let us < 1474844459 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: HQ9+ with an abridged version of 9. < 1474844463 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Caught SIGINT < 1474844475 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doot trying < 1474844514 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have version 6.4.0 on my own computer < 1474844765 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1474844779 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474844937 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if you ensure that "use strict" is specified then you cannot use the callee/caller values to determine what called it. < 1474845030 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :our sandbox code is written with use strict already < 1474845043 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so you have already done that. < 1474845175 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could possibly to execute something like this in the sandbox to bring a function into the sandbox: (x=>y=>{ "use strict"; if(typeof y!=="number") throw new TypeError(); return x(y); }) < 1474845193 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't konw if there are other problems with this, but this is one thing I have thought of.) < 1474845242 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I like umlbox's sophisticated kernel autoconfiguration mechanism. (Makefile with "yes '' | $(MAKE) ARCH=um oldconfig" in it.) < 1474845401 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You also will have to be safe if the function you are wrapping is going to return any kind of object.) < 1474845539 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to write Node.js addons? I don't understand it, so I hoped you would know. < 1474845657 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope! < 1474845660 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask jeffl35 < 1474845688 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1474845740 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinking underload would be good for IRC < 1474845755 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474845790 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think /(zzo38|int-e|fizzie)/ < 1474845821 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1474845833 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome iovoid < 1474845836 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I thought we might already have Underload on this IRC < 1474845840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06iovoid: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1474845840 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474845841 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1474845842 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do < 1474846221 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :evilmoon < 1474846302 0 :jeffl35!?@? NICK :eviljeff < 1474846331 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :evilvoid < 1474846331 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :iovoid: Do you know the way to sandbox that cannot break? I had several ideas including one is that the sandbox object should have no prototype, and other is to bring a function into the sandbox by executing a code like this inside of the sandbox: (x=>y=>{ "use strict"; if(typeof y!=="number") throw new TypeError(); return x(y); }) Other idea involved using proxy objects < 1474846425 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sandboxes at the code level can be broken easy < 1474846447 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because of how javascript works you can hide constructors < 1474846495 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we tried that remember evilvoid? you can use the constructor's constructor < 1474846509 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant cant < 1474846527 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript can be considered self modifiying < 1474846536 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a semifinal way < 1474846556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think since ES6 you can hide constructors if you are careful. < 1474846556 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the things can be turned into functions with constructors < 1474846572 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not of core things < 1474846588 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Number, Function, Symbol and that < 1474846591 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or instances of them < 1474846602 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can create an object with no prototype, and primitives are not objects. < 1474846623 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is JS is a object when operations are done < 1474846633 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Object.toString(42) returns [object Number] < 1474846656 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a primitive number or symbol can be used without being an object. Yes, other than undefined and void, everything can be accessed their properties as if it is an object, but it isn't an object. < 1474846700 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try 42.constructor, it will return Number, and the constructor of Number is Function < 1474846707 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A function is an object, but I suggested a way to wrap a function like the way I mentioned above < 1474846712 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilvoid: Yes, I know that. < 1474846727 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474846805 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474846815 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the function you said it wouldnt be a real sandbox, just a calculator with very limited options < 1474846835 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try this: vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42)==Function the result is false. < 1474846866 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, the value passed is a primitive and not an object, so it has the sandbox's Function and not the outside's Function, that is why it is false. < 1474846887 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:49aa:857d:b72a:5c95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474846901 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand what I mean now? < 1474846907 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42).toString() < 1474846907 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function Function() { [native code] }' < 1474846909 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1474846909 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘Object.create’ < 1474846909 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No module named ‘Object’ is imported. < 1474846937 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh haha very funny lambdabot < 1474846944 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats JS not haskell < 1474846948 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474846964 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric evilvoid < 1474846965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric evilvoid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474846967 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42).toString() < 1474846967 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: vm is not defined < 1474846968 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:1) < 1474846968 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474846969 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the result is Function, but the sandbox's Function. < 1474846969 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474846970 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474846971 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474846971 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474846972 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474846972 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474846973 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474846976 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474846978 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops < 1474846979 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it is a different Function. < 1474846986 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its Function < 1474847002 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval global.vm = require("vm"); // There, now it will work < 1474847002 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ Script: [Function: ContextifyScript], < 1474847003 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createScript: [Function], < 1474847003 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createContext: [Function], < 1474847004 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInDebugContext: [Function], < 1474847005 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInContext: [Function], < 1474847005 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847006 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847016 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42).toString() < 1474847016 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function Function() { [native code] }' < 1474847016 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42).toString() < 1474847017 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function Function() { [native code] }' < 1474847020 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1474847035 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42).toString() < 1474847035 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function Function() { [native code] }' < 1474847046 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42) < 1474847047 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: Function] < 1474847061 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42)("return 2+2")() < 1474847061 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1474847062 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol Function is a Functin < 1474847081 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42)("return process.exit")() < 1474847081 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: process is not defined < 1474847082 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27)), :2:8) < 1474847082 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:115) < 1474847083 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847084 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847084 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847084 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847085 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847085 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847086 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval Function == Function < 1474847086 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1474847086 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1474847090 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try: new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("process.exit(1)")() See that it doesn't work. < 1474847093 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval Function.constructor == Function < 1474847093 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1474847106 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("process.exit(1)")() < 1474847107 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: process is not defined < 1474847107 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27)), :2:1) < 1474847108 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:118) < 1474847109 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847110 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847110 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847111 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847111 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847119 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474847120 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1474847121 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to escape the context there < 1474847144 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you pass {} instead of 42 then it will exit, though. < 1474847150 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("process.exit(1)").toString() < 1474847150 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function anonymous() {\nprocess.exit(1)\n}' < 1474847157 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("process.exit(1)")() < 1474847157 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: process is not defined < 1474847157 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27)), :2:1) < 1474847158 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:118) < 1474847159 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847159 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847160 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847161 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847161 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847162 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847169 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, restarting < 1474847174 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Caught SIGINT < 1474847192 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474847214 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return this")() < 1474847214 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: vm is not defined < 1474847215 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:7) < 1474847216 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847216 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, the {} passed is an object from outside of the sandbox and therefore has the constructor from outside of the sandbox, but if you pass 42 then it is a primitive so it is converted inside of the sandbox instead. < 1474847216 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847217 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847218 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847218 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847219 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474847220 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at Array.forEach (native) < 1474847220 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flush < 1474847221 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:173:9) < 1474847221 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitOne (events.js:96:13) < 1474847222 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847222 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847226 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval global.vm = require("vm"); // There, now it will work < 1474847227 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ Script: [Function: ContextifyScript], < 1474847227 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createScript: [Function], < 1474847228 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createContext: [Function], < 1474847229 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInDebugContext: [Function], < 1474847229 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInContext: [Function], < 1474847230 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInNewContext: [Function], < 1474847230 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847231 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847233 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return this")() < 1474847233 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474847246 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return this.constructor.constructor('return this')")() < 1474847246 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: anonymous] < 1474847251 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return this.constructor.constructor('return this')")()() < 1474847251 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474847290 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? It is not the same Function object. < 1474847296 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval test < 1474847297 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: test is not defined < 1474847297 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:1) < 1474847298 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847299 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847299 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fushq < 1474847299 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847300 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847301 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847301 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847302 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847312 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dies
< 1474847314 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return this.constructor.constructor('return this')()")() < 1474847314 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you believe me now? < 1474847315 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474847343 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38; give evilvoid time to test your theory out < 1474847348 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1474847350 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474847382 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (this.constructor.constructor('this'))()")() < 1474847382 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474847396 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function(this.constructor.constructor('this'))()")() < 1474847396 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474847400 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function(this.constructor.constructor('this'))()") < 1474847400 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: anonymous] < 1474847404 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function(this.constructor.constructor('this'))()").toString() < 1474847404 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function anonymous() {\nreturn Function(this.constructor.constructor(\'this\'))()\n}' < 1474847411 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the undefined incontext our out of context? < 1474847425 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/our/or/ < 1474847433 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/incontext/in context/ < 1474847436 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function(\this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')')()") < 1474847436 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847437 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1474847437 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847438 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847438 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847439 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847440 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847440 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847440 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847440 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function(this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')')()") < 1474847441 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847442 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847442 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847443 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is a primitive then it is irrelevant. < 1474847443 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847444 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847444 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847445 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847456 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')')()") < 1474847456 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847457 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847458 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847458 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847459 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherbot is good for proving points in JS < 1474847459 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847460 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847461 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847461 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474847462 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at Array.forEach (native) < 1474847463 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:173:9) < 1474847463 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitOne (events.js:96:13) < 1474847472 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: not when it dumps exceptions into a channel < 1474847483 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474847501 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for fizzie to be done with his now hour long shower to come yell at us
< 1474847502 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')')()")() < 1474847503 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847503 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847504 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847505 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847505 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1474847505 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847506 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847507 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847507 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474847508 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847508 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847510 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just because we're using old node.js < 1474847513 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see if i can update it < 1474847520 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eviljeff: did you use nodejs? < 1474847522 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')')()") < 1474847522 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847522 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847523 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847524 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847524 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nodejs command < 1474847525 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847525 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847526 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847527 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474847527 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at Array.forEach (native) < 1474847528 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:173:9) < 1474847529 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitOne (events.js:96:13) < 1474847529 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already installed the update < 1474847543 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nodejs is the latest, node is the 4.5.0 < 1474847559 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42)) < 1474847559 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: anonymous] < 1474847562 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))() < 1474847563 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: anonymous] < 1474847565 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))()() < 1474847566 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474847569 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing package nodejs... < 1474847579 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))(42)("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')')()") < 1474847579 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474847584 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')')()") < 1474847584 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847585 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847586 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847586 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847587 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847588 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847588 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eviljeff: rlly? < 1474847588 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847589 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474847590 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at Array.forEach (native) < 1474847590 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re-installing nodejs... < 1474847590 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:173:9) < 1474847591 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitOne (events.js:96:13) < 1474847597 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'this\')'))()") < 1474847597 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847598 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847599 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847600 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847600 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847601 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847602 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847602 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474847603 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at Array.forEach (native) < 1474847604 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:173:9) < 1474847604 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitOne (events.js:96:13) < 1474847629 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return 2+2") < 1474847629 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: anonymous] < 1474847631 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return 2+2")() < 1474847631 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1474847674 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'return this\')')") < 1474847674 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847675 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847676 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847676 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847677 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847677 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847717 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('this.constructor.constructor(\'return this\')')") < 1474847717 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list < 1474847717 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847718 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847718 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847719 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847723 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eviljeff: its alreayd installed idiot >_< < 1474847723 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :restarting otherbot (update node.js) < 1474847727 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Caught SIGINT < 1474847736 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eviljeff: wut < 1474847737 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on < 1474847738 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1474847739 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function('return this')") < 1474847742 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were we using node < 1474847744 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1474847746 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474847747 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474847757 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35:/etc/apt/sources.list.d $ node -v < 1474847757 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :v4.5.0 < 1474847757 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35:/etc/apt/sources.list.d $ nodejs -v < 1474847757 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :v6.6.0 < 1474847760 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474847773 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm... < 1474847777 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return x.constructor('return this')") < 1474847777 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: vm is not defined < 1474847778 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:7) < 1474847779 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847779 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847779 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847780 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847791 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1474847792 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval global.vm = require("vm") < 1474847792 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ Script: [Function: ContextifyScript], < 1474847792 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createScript: [Function], < 1474847793 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createContext: [Function], < 1474847794 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme fix nvm... < 1474847794 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInDebugContext: [Function], < 1474847795 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInContext: [Function], < 1474847795 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInNewContext: [Function], < 1474847795 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847796 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847802 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval global.vm = require("vm"); // There, now it will work < 1474847802 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ Script: [Function: ContextifyScript], < 1474847803 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createScript: [Function], < 1474847804 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createContext: [Function], < 1474847804 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInDebugContext: [Function], < 1474847805 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInContext: [Function], < 1474847806 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInNewContext: [Function], < 1474847806 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInThisContext: [Function], < 1474847807 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flush < 1474847807 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847807 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : isContext: [Function: isContext] } < 1474847808 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847810 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return x.constructor('return this')") < 1474847810 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: anonymous] < 1474847813 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return x.constructor('return this')")() < 1474847814 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReferenceError: x is not defined < 1474847814 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27)), :2:8) < 1474847815 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:138) < 1474847816 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847816 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847816 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847817 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847826 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return 42.constructor.constructor('return this')")() < 1474847826 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: Invalid or unexpected token < 1474847827 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at eval (eval at (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:27), :1:2) < 1474847827 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at .code (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:65:17) < 1474847828 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at run (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:48:10) < 1474847828 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed nvm... < 1474847829 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter. (/home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:252:25) < 1474847829 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at emitThree (events.js:116:13) < 1474847830 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:194:7) < 1474847831 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/ubuntu/workspace/ircbot.js:192:17 < 1474847831 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at Array.forEach (native) < 1474847832 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Client Quit < 1474847837 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this')")() < 1474847845 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry evilvoid ) < 1474847854 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474847865 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets hope 6.6.0 doesn't break anything < 1474847870 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldnt < 1474847871 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval global.vm = require("vm"); // There, now it will work < 1474847871 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ Script: [Function: ContextifyScript], < 1474847871 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createScript: [Function], < 1474847872 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : createContext: [Function], < 1474847873 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this')")() < 1474847873 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInDebugContext: [Function], < 1474847874 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInContext: [Function], < 1474847874 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInNewContext: [Function], < 1474847875 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : runInThisContext: [Function], < 1474847875 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flush < 1474847876 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : isContext: [Function: isContext] } < 1474847876 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"return this" won't help and won't depend on where the function comes from anyways. < 1474847876 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474847876 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474847878 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already tested it jeffl < 1474847880 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this')")() < 1474847880 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474847883 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this')")()() < 1474847883 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474847931 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilvoid esoterically attempts to prove a point < 1474847951 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this.constructor.constructor(\'return this\')')")()() < 1474847951 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list] < 1474847959 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this.constructor.constructor(\"eturn this\")')")()() < 1474847959 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SyntaxError: Unexpected token this] < 1474847961 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this.constructor.constructor(\"return this\")')")()() < 1474847962 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474847975 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this.constructor.constructor(\"return this\")')")()()() < 1474847976 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474847983 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return JSON.stringify.constructor('return this.constructor.constructor(\"return process\")')")()()() < 1474847983 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: process is not defined] < 1474848037 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function.caller")() < 1474848037 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :null < 1474848050 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function.callee")() < 1474848050 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474848062 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Object.keys(this)")() < 1474848062 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] < 1474848068 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need "arguments.callee" and not "Function.callee" < 1474848079 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee")() < 1474848079 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474848086 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee")().toString() < 1474848086 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function anonymous() {\nreturn arguments.callee\n}' < 1474848092 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee")()() < 1474848092 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474848098 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee")()().toString() < 1474848098 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'function anonymous() {\nreturn arguments.callee\n}' < 1474848102 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.caller")() < 1474848102 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474848114 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor")() < 1474848114 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: Function] < 1474848124 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor('return this')")() < 1474848124 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474848126 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor('return this')")()() < 1474848126 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848131 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor('return this')()")() < 1474848131 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848166 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return global") < 1474848166 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474848167 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return global")() < 1474848168 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: global is not defined] < 1474848195 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\"use strict\";return this;")() < 1474848195 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474848206 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\"use strict\";return Function('return this');")() < 1474848207 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474848209 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\"use strict\";return Function('return this');")()() < 1474848209 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848212 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\"use strict\";return Function('return this')();")() < 1474848212 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848226 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\"use strict\";return this.constructor('return this');")()() < 1474848226 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'constructor' of undefined] < 1474848238 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("this.constructor.constructor('return this');")()() < 1474848238 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: (intermediate value)(...) is not a function] < 1474848245 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note you can also change the code that runs inside of the sandbox by replacing "(x=>x.constructor.constructor)" with something else. < 1474848247 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("this.constructor.constructor('return this');")() < 1474848247 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474848265 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("new this.constructor.constructor('return this');")() < 1474848265 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474848271 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return new this.constructor.constructor('return this');")() < 1474848271 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474848274 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return new this.constructor.constructor('return this');")()() < 1474848274 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848289 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (new this.constructor.constructor('return this'))();")() < 1474848289 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848315 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))(""return (this.constructor.constructor('return (this.process.mainModule.constructor._load)')())"")() < 1474848315 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list] < 1474848320 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My purpose of doing that was just to show that the return value is the sandbox's Function and not the outside's Function, since the value passed is a primitive.) < 1474848332 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (this.constructor.constructor('return (this.process.mainModule.constructor._load)')())")() < 1474848332 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'mainModule' of undefined] < 1474848341 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (this.constructor.constructor('return (this)')())")() < 1474848341 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848390 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vsxxdjbmtkqrlbti QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474848417 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ajrdwujrwcxajhho JOIN :#esoteric < 1474848439 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return ({}.constructor.constructor('return (this)')())")() < 1474848439 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848566 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Object.keys(arguments)")() < 1474848566 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] < 1474848578 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.caller")() < 1474848578 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474848604 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.caller")() < 1474848605 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :null < 1474848613 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee")() < 1474848614 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474848619 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.caller")() < 1474848619 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :null < 1474848641 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments")() < 1474848641 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474848643 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments")(1) < 1474848643 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ '0': 1 } < 1474848644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Al Dente14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49769&oldid=46227 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+72) 10fixed gap in spec < 1474848684 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.caller")() < 1474848684 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474848752 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Al Dente14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49770&oldid=49769 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+62) 10Examples page link < 1474848859 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the last message I sent? < 1474849050 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.caller?arguments.caller:arguments.callee()")() < 1474849050 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded] < 1474849075 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{new Error()}catch(e){return e}")() < 1474849075 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474849089 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e}")() < 1474849090 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: x is not defined] < 1474849105 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e.constructor.constructor}")() < 1474849105 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: Function] < 1474849112 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e.constructor.constructor('return this')}")() < 1474849112 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474849115 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e.constructor.constructor('return this')}")()() < 1474849115 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474849119 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e.constructor.constructor('return this')()}")() < 1474849119 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474849129 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e.stack}")() < 1474849143 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e}")() < 1474849143 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: x is not defined] < 1474849147 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return e.stack}")() < 1474849158 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("try{x.constructor}catch(e){return Object.keys(e)}")() < 1474849158 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] < 1474849171 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Error}")() < 1474849172 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SyntaxError: Unexpected token }] < 1474849175 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Error")() < 1474849175 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [Function: Error] < 1474849175 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : captureStackTrace: [Function: captureStackTrace], < 1474849176 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : stackTraceLimit: 10 } < 1474849191 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Error.constructor")() < 1474849191 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: Function] < 1474849358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474849420 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the code inside of the sandbox is not a arrow function but is a proper function then it may also leak "this"; you can specify the this value yourself (such as undefined) if called by Reflect.apply instead. < 1474849422 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I sent last? < 1474849467 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The issue is that when you want to inject some helper functions < 1474849481 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like your own math things < 1474849556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know. That is why I suggested things such as: sandbox.func1=vm.runInContext("(x=>y=>{ "use strict"; if(typeof y!=="number") throw new TypeError(); else return x(y);)")(my_math_function) for example (before executing any untrusted code in the sandbox) < 1474849583 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that is not quite right. Here it is: sandbox.func1=vm.runInContext("(x=>y=>{ "use strict"; if(typeof y!=="number") throw new TypeError(); else return x(y);)",sandbox)(func1); < 1474849587 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like what math.js did < 1474849600 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I broke math.js < 1474849624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the quotation matching is wrong of course) < 1474849667 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval throw new TypeError(NaN) < 1474849667 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: NaN] < 1474849670 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1474849672 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw, it works no < 1474849673 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1474849683 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole stacktrace doesn't get printed 'cause of updated nodejs < 1474849701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to ensure that func1 returns and/or throws only primitives, to make it more safe < 1474849936 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474850022 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474850046 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474850079 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :evilmoon < 1474850144 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oom < 1474850174 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function.caller?Function.caller:Function.calee()")() < 1474850174 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Function.calee is not a function] < 1474850177 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function.caller?Function.caller:Function.callee()")() < 1474850178 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Function.callee is not a function] < 1474850183 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function.caller?Function.caller:argument.callee()")() < 1474850183 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: argument is not defined] < 1474850186 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function.caller?Function.caller:arguments.callee()")() < 1474850186 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded] < 1474850197 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return Function.caller?Function.caller:arguments.callee(1)")() < 1474850197 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded] < 1474850206 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments[0]?Function.caller:arguments.callee(1)")() < 1474850207 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :null < 1474850754 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Σ0o² < 1474850755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03A3 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER SIGMA] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+00B2 SUPERSCRIPT TWO] < 1474850866 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‮ < 1474850867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE] < 1474850885 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1474850889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+000F \ UTF-8: 0f UTF-16BE: 000f Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1474850944 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eviljeff: how do i type that? < 1474850951 0 :eviljeff!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: idk < 1474850960 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("x=function(x){return this;}; return x()")() < 1474850960 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ x: [Function] } < 1474850978 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did i do it right? < 1474850981 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1474850985 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("x=function(x){return this.constructor;}; return x()")() < 1474850985 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: Object] < 1474850990 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("x=function(x){return this;}; return x()")() < 1474850990 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ x: [Function] } < 1474851008 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return !function(x){return this;}()")() < 1474851008 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :false < 1474851015 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this;})()")() < 1474851015 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851074 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval bot.sendMsg(chan,"wow did i do it? \u202D") < 1474851074 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did i do it? ‭ < 1474851075 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474851080 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval bot.sendMsg(chan,"wow did i do it? \u000F") < 1474851080 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did i do it?  < 1474851081 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474851083 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1474851129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does anybody treat natural as {0, 1, 2, ...} and whole as {1, 2, ...}? Or is it only ever the other way around? < 1474851158 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :other way around < 1474851167 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (1,eval)('this')")() < 1474851167 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851179 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\use strict"\"; return (1,eval)('this')")() < 1474851179 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SyntaxError: Unexpected token ILLEGAL] < 1474851192 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\"use strict\"; return (1,eval)('this')")() < 1474851192 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851194 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474851202 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1474851214 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("\"use strict\"; return (1,eval)('global')")() < 1474851214 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: global is not defined] < 1474851358 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return uneval(this);})()")() < 1474851358 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: uneval is not defined] < 1474851365 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this;})()")() < 1474851365 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851375 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("'use strict';return (function(x){return this;})()")() < 1474851375 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474851416 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this.constructor.constructor;})('return this')()")() < 1474851416 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474851423 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this.constructor.constructor;})('return this')()()")() < 1474851423 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474851428 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmhelloon! < 1474851433 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this.constructor.constructor;})()('return this')")() < 1474851434 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474851437 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this.constructor.constructor;})()('return this')()")() < 1474851438 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851445 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this.constructor.constructor;})()('return global')")() < 1474851446 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474851450 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this.constructor.constructor;})()('return global')()")() < 1474851450 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: global is not defined] < 1474851458 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(x){return this.constructor.constructor;})()('return this')()")() < 1474851458 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851461 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dont mind evilvoid, he's trying to disprove zzo38, hes been at it for a hour now < 1474851481 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its difficult < 1474851515 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the exploits rely on getting an external object < 1474851558 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that < 1474851588 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad HAI 1.2, VISIBLE "HAI BOILY, THIS IS LOLCODE", KTHXBYE < 1474851591 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-lolr < 1474851591 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAI BOILY, THIS IS LOLCODE < 1474851684 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return aguments.callee.constructor.constructor")() < 1474851684 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tylbszqbcdxolwec JOIN :#esoteric < 1474851684 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: aguments is not defined] < 1474851689 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor.constructor")() < 1474851690 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function: Function] < 1474851697 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor.constructor('return this')")() < 1474851697 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Function] < 1474851700 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor.constructor('return this')()")() < 1474851700 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851708 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee.constructor('return this')()")() < 1474851709 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851737 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments.callee(Function('return this'))()")() < 1474851737 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded] < 1474851769 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return arguments[1]?arguments[0]:arguments.callee(Function('return this'),1)()")() < 1474851769 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474851793 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably safe < 1474851803 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If any object is injected.... < 1474851933 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilvoid: I don't think zzo38 is unprovable hth < 1474851962 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilvoid: ill set it up for a JS sandbox then, you can poke at it more then < 1474852041 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask zzo38 hezzo38. are you unprovable? < 1474852041 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474852067 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think perhaps evilvoid is a bit confused about what this program is supposed to do < 1474852076 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't what I meant < 1474852092 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474852259 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474852546 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck typing//Duck typing means typing on a terminal blindly without an echo. < 1474852564 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :had that one last time... < 1474852566 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo//Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting. < 1474852584 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( where *is* Roujo now? ) < 1474852607 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the//the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1474852614 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adpoted//"Oh lord, we've adpoted another one." (about Emily) => Marten realizes what kind of webcomic he lives in in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298 < 1474852623 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1474852627 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852628 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YouTube changed! < 1474852629 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯//¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1474852642 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endofunctor//Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1474852650 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping//Ping is a Peking Duck H4XX0R who amuses himself by making people's IRC connections timeout. < 1474852680 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooperate//"Cooperate" is a common misspelling of "cōöperāte". < 1474852684 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :styrofoam//styrofoam is Taneb's only weakness. < 1474852694 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugbear//A bugbear is a teddy bear that you can explain your bugs to. < 1474852789 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha//aha would be a helpful acronym, but has a shedding problem. < 1474852804 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@//@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour. < 1474852810 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod//A relrod is a machine useful for finding the Force. < 1474852820 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tile shuffling//Tile shuffve games. ly addictie basis of many highling is th < 1474852829 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship//friendship wisdom < 1474852848 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodad//Doodads are just duoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1474852855 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fi//Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa.) < 1474852888 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time cube//EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HORU ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH. Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. God Is Born Of A Mother - She Left Belly B. Signature. Your dirty lying teachers use only the midnight to midnight 1 day (ignoring 3 other days) Time to not foul (already wro < 1474852922 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9//9 is a free smalltalk. < 1474852929 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diet//People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet. < 1474852938 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anana//ananas is the real pineapple. < 1474852955 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weather//lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1474852973 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where weather < 1474852973 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?@ ?run var$intercalate " \\ " . map (\x -> "(@metar "++x++")") . words $ ?show < 1474852975 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where weather < 1474852975 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?@ ?run var$intercalate " \\ " . map (\x -> "(@metar "++x++")") . words $ ?show < 1474852978 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where weather 1 < 1474852978 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?@ ?run var$intercalate " \\ " . map (\x -> "(@metar "++x++")") . words $ ?show < 1474852984 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474852986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ism//Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically "ism" is a backformation from portmanteaus on "schism". < 1474853015 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :page//The smallest floating-point number is known as pages. Fungot discovered it. < 1474853022 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinder surprise//Kinder Surprise is an addictive drug marketed for children so dangerous it's banned at the federal level. < 1474853045 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russell's teapot//Russell's Teapot / Short and stout / Orbits near Mars / Or thereabout. / If you see it / Let us know / If you don't / What does that show? < 1474853068 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spice girls//The Spice Girls are Pog spice, Story spice, Sarah spice, Gender spice, and Baleen spice. < 1474853076 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :utumno//Utumno is Morgoth's first dungeon. It is where he was defeated, and the Silmarils temporarily reclaimed from him. < 1474853083 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciol//ciol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy colleagues by making a programming language that has insults as commands. < 1474853093 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq//See: Burlesque < 1474853097 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :york//York used to be known as Amsterdam. < 1474853107 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853108 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinosaur//Dinosaurs are a diverse group of pre-historic chickens with feathers. < 1474853124 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853125 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghost//A ghost is an unintelligent undead, similar to the skeleton but harder to create, because it's lacking the rest of the body. < 1474853133 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym//itym "i think you mean" hth < 1474853145 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474853146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :l//L is far too short to be a village in Wales. < 1474853157 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1474853158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1474853436 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? youtube < 1474853437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474853441 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1474853445 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? google < 1474853446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. < 1474853469 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? facebook < 1474853470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebook is Taneb's face collection. < 1474853491 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twitter < 1474853492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitter is Taneb's bird collection (presumably). < 1474853498 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irc < 1474853499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is short for "Internet Relay Chat". It is named so because all the servers are constructed from relays. < 1474853522 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? snapchat < 1474853523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snapchat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474853526 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reddit < 1474853527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474853534 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freenode < 1474853535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474853539 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1474853562 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pls fix :O < 1474853576 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego doesnt know what freenode is < 1474853684 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("returrn (function(){return this})()")() < 1474853684 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: returrn is not defined] < 1474853693 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42))("return (function(){return this})()")() < 1474853693 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1474853695 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I sent a pull request to Gregor. It remains to be seen whether that will actually do anything. < 1474853726 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: mind re-explaining what your codes _does_ to evilvoid? i dunno if he understands < 1474853746 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It creates a new context that is empty < 1474853761 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn freenode/The Realm of Freenode is our homeland. The Chännel dwells in it since... Uhm... Quite a few years ago? < 1474853764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «freenode» < 1474853775 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running a code that returns the constructor.constructor of 42 < 1474853782 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval new (vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))({}))("return (function(){return this})()")() < 1474853782 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ global: [Circular], < 1474853783 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : process: < 1474853783 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : process { < 1474853784 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : title: 'node', < 1474853785 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : version: 'v4.5.0', < 1474853785 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : moduleLoadList: < 1474853786 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [ 'Binding contextify', < 1474853787 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'Binding natives', < 1474853787 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474853788 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474853803 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice one iovoid < 1474853805 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Late 2002. < 1474853806 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And because 42 is a primitive... < 1474853809 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there you have leaked the "this" because you are not doing what it is supposed to do < 1474853819 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474853827 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It demonstrates that the result of vm.runInContext("(x=>x.constructor.constructor)",vm.createContext(Object.create(null)))(42) is not the same Function object; if you write ==Function then it will be false. Did you even try that? < 1474853831 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question is how to inject forgein data safely < 1474853839 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474853850 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, the value x is a primitive so the conversion to an object occurs inside of the sandbox. < 1474853857 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is: you really cant. < 1474853858 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474853862 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474853865 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you replace 42 with {} then it will be the object from outside of the sandbox. < 1474853874 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math.js cant have a sandbox then < 1474853891 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sandboxes will get boring < 1474853949 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MathJS dies because of f.constructor for example < 1474853950 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can inject foreign data before executing any untrusted code, if they are primitives rather than objects (functions are also objects). < 1474853962 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is f defined in MathJS anyways? < 1474853981 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: (In other words, we should have a sesquidecennial celebration late 2017.) < 1474853982 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MathJS does some syntax rewriting < 1474853993 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wraps what you provided in another function < 1474853997 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ensure that the sandbox object is created without a prototype! (This is what Object.create(null) means; it means to create an object with no prototype) < 1474854014 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax rewriting won't help. < 1474854036 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does it just to make it a "more mathematic" syntax < 1474854039 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to do it properly. < 1474854041 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilvoid: study it a little more, it actually compiles the code into a node based syntax. < 1474854052 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and generates JS from that < 1474854052 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474854065 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might do syntax rewriting for that reason, but syntax rewriting will not be sufficient to be safe. < 1474854085 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, (x+1)+6 becomes a syntax tree < 1474854085 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always eval(String.fromCharCode(stuff)) < 1474854114 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and that is why syntax rewriting is not sufficient. < 1474854148 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. that long?!? < 1474854162 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not giving ANYTHING makes features useless < 1474854170 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also made a TeX sandbox that does not attempt to validate the input or anything like that; security is done by using a custom format file instead. This requires One True TeX and will not work with pdfTeX or LaTeX or other variants.) < 1474854204 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like auth0 uses "web containers" (idk in deep how that works) for evaling user code like to rewrite users < 1474854237 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://esoteric.sange.fi/archive/2002-q4 and look up "Esolang IRC channel". < 1474854241 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can give stuff; just make sure you do it properly! Such as by wrapping functions and that kind of stuff < 1474854243 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you cant put a timeout < 1474854249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use proxies if necessary. < 1474854252 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since execution is outside ssandbox < 1474854265 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is touching history
< 1474854299 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use a separate process and communicate with signals if you want to do timeouts < 1474854308 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: speaking of history, have you updated the fizziegraphs lately? < 1474854324 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not in a long, long time. < 1474854339 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could try to figure out how to do it, and see if the scripts even still work. < 1474854398 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :updating target 2, days 2015-09-11 ... 2016-09-24 < 1474854413 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, almost exactly a year has passed. < 1474854436 0 :otherbot!?@? NICK :evilrbot < 1474854436 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1474854465 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write vm.createContext({}) then it is unsafe because it can take values from the outside's Object.prototype, but with Object.create(null) it has no prototype, so that part is undone at least. < 1474854466 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god. too. much. evil < 1474854486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Al Dente14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49771&oldid=49770 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+4) 10fixed bug in EBNF allowing for (a or b).c < 1474854496 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I should probably readjust the "channel regulars" whitelist some day, to account for changes. < 1474854550 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If f is a function brought into the sandbox like how I suggested (wrapping it inside of a function created in the sandbox, by creating a function that returns a function also inside of the sandbox), then it will be the function inside of the sandbox and not outside. Stuff outside of the definition of that function cannot access its local variables. < 1474854574 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its almost impossible to give values < 1474854600 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SInce you can constructor them to get true Function(tm) < 1474854603 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone else has also made up a sandbox out of proxies. < 1474854625 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the first safe sandbox I see < 1474854662 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all that was needed was a single #esoteric memeber and a one liner < 1474854669 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474854688 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the sandbox/sandcastle guys wasted their time < 1474854717 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 < 1474854723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I did it, you can't "constructor them to get true Function(tm)", I think. < 1474854746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But your tests were doing it wrong; not the way I meant) < 1474854769 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474854773 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you did is a empty context, which returns a function scoped to the sandbox < 1474854781 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, scoped is not the correct word < 1474854785 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its like bound to it < 1474854788 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello I sometimes exist < 1474854795 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that the actual gregor?:P bcause the chmod 000/0000 / -R issue needs fixed < 1474854798 0 :Gregor!?@? NICK :Guest77839 < 1474854828 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup thats gregor. hi mr person i've never met who wrote HackEgo < 1474854831 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it is, though the nickserv-induced nickname change is a little amusing. < 1474854838 0 :Guest77839!?@? NICK :Gregor < 1474854852 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot! Gregor is alive! < 1474854853 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and well, ' british accent' could include cockney, yorkshire, scots, or welsh, technically. it was some slang < 1474854858 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffice it to say I haven't logged in in... a while. < 1474854872 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I merged the PR, now I just have to remember where HackEgo is hosted :) < 1474854881 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"esolangs.org" is a good alias. < 1474854885 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilvoid: Yes, it is, and that is its working. < 1474854892 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night all' < 1474854906 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoonne nuit! < 1474855011 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474855013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474855037 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good bug :) < 1474855042 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever :) < 1474855051 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost finished typing the next session of level20.tex but now I must go for a while and later tonight I will finished writing it, and annouce it < 1474855053 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1474855060 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1474855066 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls \ < 1474855067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access \: No such file or directory < 1474855069 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls / < 1474855070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr < 1474855093 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I try to kill it? < 1474855109 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`init 1 < 1474855110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: init: not found < 1474855122 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how everybody tries to break it by assuming they have root access. < 1474855133 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1474855134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: No such file or directory < 1474855140 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1474855141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ ulimit -f 10240 \ ulimit -l 0 \ ulimit -u 128 \ exec -- "$@" < 1474855155 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami < 1474855156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 < 1474855162 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm ~ < 1474855163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `~': No such file or directory < 1474855168 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm /home/hackbot < 1474855169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot': Is a directory < 1474855173 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -R /home/hackbot < 1474855174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1474855177 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: There was also something else a little more elaborate related to making a directory called "canary.orig", which even now is causing every `revert to print out "rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory", but it's mostly just a cosmetic issue. < 1474855189 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm --recursive /home/hackbot < 1474855189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: unrecognized option '--recursive /home/hackbot' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1474855197 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm --help < 1474855197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: rm [OPTION]... FILE... \ Remove (unlink) the FILE(s). \ \ -f, --force ignore nonexistent files, never prompt \ -i prompt before every removal \ -I prompt once before removing more than three files, or \ when removing recursively. Less intrusive than -i, \ < 1474855206 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474855212 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hah, that's amusing. That's because of how hg does things :) < 1474855223 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which rm < 1474855224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/rm < 1474855239 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/random < 1474855248 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1474855249 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474855259 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /dev < 1474855260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agpgart \ audio \ audio1 \ audio2 \ audio3 \ audioctl \ console \ core \ dsp \ dsp1 \ dsp2 \ dsp3 \ fd \ full \ kmem \ loop0 \ loop1 \ loop2 \ loop3 \ loop4 \ loop5 \ loop6 \ loop7 \ mem \ midi0 \ midi00 \ midi01 \ midi02 \ midi03 \ midi1 \ midi2 \ midi3 \ mixer \ mixer1 \ mixer2 \ mixer3 \ mpu401data \ mpu401stat \ null \ port \ ptmx \ pts \ ram \ < 1474855263 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And someone ran a "rm everything" that wasn't caught by the canary, because in the 30 seconds it only managed to remove /hackenv/bin/ and few other things, but not the canary, which was then considered a valid commit. Though that was easy enough to revert. < 1474855270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855274 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/port < 1474855275 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/port: Permission denied < 1474855279 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/* < 1474855280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/*: No such file or directory < 1474855286 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/ram < 1474855287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/ram: Permission denied < 1474855291 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/fs < 1474855292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/fs: No such file or directory < 1474855292 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/fd < 1474855293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/fd: Is a directory < 1474855298 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /dev/fd < 1474855299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 \ 1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 6 \ 7 \ 8 < 1474855301 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/fd/1 < 1474855309 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/fd/* < 1474855310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/fd/*: No such file or directory < 1474855321 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/fd/{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8} < 1474855322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/fd/{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8}: No such file or directory < 1474855325 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/fd/0 < 1474855332 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855346 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, not much that can be done about that. < 1474855347 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/full < 1474855348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... < 1474855357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855367 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/loop0 < 1474855368 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/loop0: Permission denied < 1474855391 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ~ < 1474855392 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ~: No such file or directory < 1474855394 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home < 1474855395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackbot < 1474855398 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot < 1474855399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackbot.hg < 1474855407 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg < 1474855408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg': Is a directory < 1474855414 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hf < 1474855415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /home/hackbot/hackbot.hf: No such file or directory < 1474855415 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg < 1474855416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibot_cmds < 1474855422 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds < 1474855423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib < 1474855424 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/ is up to date. < 1474855427 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib < 1474855428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch \ limits \ revert \ sandbox < 1474855434 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/sandbox < 1474855435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/sandbox < 1474855437 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks fizzie < 1474855438 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1474855439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fizzie. Thizzie. < 1474855439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1474855445 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi > /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1474855446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi > /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1474855459 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1474855460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits': Read-only file system < 1474855475 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod 000 -R / < 1474855477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: missing operand after `000 -R /' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1474855486 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod -R 0000 / < 1474855487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1474855491 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod --help < 1474855492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: chmod [OPTION]... MODE[,MODE]... FILE... \ or: chmod [OPTION]... OCTAL-MODE FILE... \ or: chmod [OPTION]... --reference=RFILE FILE... \ Change the mode of each FILE to MODE. \ \ -c, --changes like verbose but report only when a change is made \ --no-preserve-root do not treat `/' specially (the default) \ --pr < 1474855502 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hm. The javascripty stuff seems to have borked. I'll try to give it a fix. < 1474855512 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod --help | more < 1474855513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: unrecognized option '--help | more' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1474855531 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod --no-preserve-root --recursive / < 1474855532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: unrecognized option '--no-preserve-root --recursive /' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1474855537 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod --no-preserve-root --recursive 0000 / < 1474855538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: unrecognized option '--no-preserve-root --recursive 0000 /' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1474855547 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: (Oh, it's just a 'http' link to a CDN'd jquery.) < 1474855559 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod -R -x /bin < 1474855562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1474855574 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To do shell command you need `` or ``` at front with a space after the `` or ``` < 1474855584 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it is treat as one argument including spaces < 1474855591 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod -R -x /bin < 1474855592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/bin': Read-only file system \ chmod: changing permissions of `/bin/gzip': Read-only file system \ chmod: changing permissions of `/bin/ln': Read-only file system \ chmod: changing permissions of `/bin/tar': Read-only file system \ chmod: changing permissions of `/bin/vdir': Read-only file system \ chmod: changing pe < 1474855601 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod --no-preserve-root --recursive 0000 / < 1474855628 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Blocage du chargement du contenu mixte actif (mixed active content) « http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.9.0/jquery.min.js » < 1474855633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4/features': Operation not permitted \ < 1474855644 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi < 1474855644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474855649 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod --no-preserve-root --recursive 0000 /home < 1474855650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/home': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/home/hackbot': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permission < 1474855659 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod --no-preserve-root --recursive 0000 / & < 1474855666 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod --no-preserve-root --recursive 0000 / & echo hi < 1474855667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855673 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Should be okay now. < 1474855690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: changing permissions of `/': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4': Operation not permitted \ chmod: changing permissions of `/sys/fs/ext4/features': Operation not permitted \ < 1474855711 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mount < 1474855712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host < 1474855721 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it works! < 1474855724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The difference between `` and ``` is the locale setting.) < 1474855748 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems safe < 1474855759 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RO everything is nice < 1474855770 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logout < 1474855771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: logout: not found < 1474855774 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`exit < 1474855775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: exit: not found < 1474855781 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /bin < 1474855783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash \ bunzip2 \ bzcat \ bzcmp \ bzdiff \ bzegrep \ bzexe \ bzfgrep \ bzgrep \ bzip2 \ bzip2recover \ bzless \ bzmore \ cat \ chgrp \ chmod \ chown \ cp \ cpio \ dash \ date \ dd \ df \ dir \ dmesg \ dnsdomainname \ domainname \ echo \ ed \ egrep \ false \ fgrep \ findmnt \ fuser \ grep \ gunzip \ gzexe \ gzip \ hostname \ ip \ kill \ kmod \ less \ < 1474855795 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin | grep init < 1474855796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855799 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin | grep shut < 1474855800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855804 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin | grep log < 1474855805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :login < 1474855809 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin | grep exit < 1474855810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855816 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin | grep re < 1474855817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzegrep \ bzfgrep \ bzgrep \ bzip2recover \ bzmore \ egrep \ fgrep \ grep \ more \ readlink \ uncompress \ zegrep \ zfgrep \ zgrep \ zmore < 1474855828 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 83 < 1474855830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 83: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1474855831 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | more < 1474855832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474855838 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am earlier than I expected.) < 1474855840 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /dev/full | more < 1474855856 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin | grep base < 1474855863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of memory! < 1474855863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855867 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin | grep base < 1474855868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855868 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1474855872 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /dev/full | more < 1474855875 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /dev/full < 1474855880 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOM'd < 1474855899 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OOM is something I guess. Like a DoS < 1474855911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of memory! < 1474855911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474855920 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /dev < 1474855921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agpgart \ audio \ audio1 \ audio2 \ audio3 \ audioctl \ console \ core \ dsp \ dsp1 \ dsp2 \ dsp3 \ fd \ full \ kmem \ loop0 \ loop1 \ loop2 \ loop3 \ loop4 \ loop5 \ loop6 \ loop7 \ mem \ midi0 \ midi00 \ midi01 \ midi02 \ midi03 \ midi1 \ midi2 \ midi3 \ mixer \ mixer1 \ mixer2 \ mixer3 \ mpu401data \ mpu401stat \ null \ port \ ptmx \ pts \ ram \ < 1474855924 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash < 1474855942 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash -e "cat /dev/*" < 1474855943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cat /dev/*: No such file or directory < 1474855955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.2$ < 1474855977 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sudo whoami < 1474855978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: sudo: command not found < 1474855988 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /hackenv/bin < 1474855990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 7z \ 7za \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ < 1474856006 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 1 < 1474856008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0: < 1474856014 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 2017 < 1474856015 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474856017 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 2016 < 1474856018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1474856027 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ! < 1474856028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474856029 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474856032 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ? < 1474856033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474856036 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ?? < 1474856037 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: hw: command not found < 1474856042 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1474856061 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byinzggkeviklrib PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?? ??? < 1474856062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1474856069 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byinzggkeviklrib PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither do I. < 1474856086 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ?? hi < 1474856087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: hw: command not found < 1474856090 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ?? ??? < 1474856091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: hw: command not found < 1474856096 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?? ??? < 1474856097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1474856101 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?? < 1474856102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have nothing to tell you. < 1474856104 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?? hi < 1474856105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1474856117 0 :evilvoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /hackenv/bin/?? < 1474856118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$@" | rnooooodl \ if [ -z "$1" ];then exec echo "I have nothing to tell you.";fi;f="tmflry/$(echo "$1" | lowercase)";if [ -h "$f" ];then exec tomfoolery `readlink "$f" | sed 's/^tmflry\///'`;fi;if [ -x "$f" ];then exec bash "$f";fi;if [ -r "$f" ];then exec cat "$f";fi;echo "I must confess, I kn < 1474856162 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Incidentally, there's a bit of timezone mishap I should try to retroactively correct, which means all my timestamps were off by two hours for a bit over two months in the start of 2015. You can see this by looking at the "presence of time" bitmaps for someone regular, like boily; there's a temporary shift around that time. < 1474856278 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think I'm the regularest regular for the time of day I'm active here... < 1474856306 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is diagonally active. < 1474856454 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HOLOMORPHIC CHICKEN < 1474856614 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474858428 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474859029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TehFlaminTaco 5* 10New user account < 1474860492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have accidentally started constructing a parser < 1474860538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and evaluator) < 1474860541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can currently detect naturals expressed as S*0, integers expressed as -?nat, and can add two naturals together. Whoops. < 1474861385 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474862714 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-fpcouqymasmurkla JOIN :#esoteric < 1474863808 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474864297 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISRO are going to launch the SCATSAT soon < 1474864308 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlhLews6CAI < 1474864370 0 :eviljeff!?@? NICK :`j < 1474864370 0 :`j!?@? NICK :32NAB4T1V < 1474864401 0 :32NAB4T1V!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/anick is useful < 1474864489 0 :32NAB4T1V!?@? NICK :eviljeff < 1474864618 0 :eviljeff!?@? NICK :evilfl35 < 1474864988 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474865555 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474866498 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474867685 0 :evilrbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474867934 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474868723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It took me a few seconds to realize that guy was speaking English < 1474868970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: What do you think of the notation d^2y/dx^2? < 1474869146 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474869191 0 :otherbot!?@? NICK :evilrbot < 1474870151 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870302 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870379 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among they who acknowledge the shortcommings of the Obj Oriented paradigm, which other paradigm is seen as "the new wave", so to speak? < 1474870399 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870404 0 :puck1pedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870407 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as "the new better" paradigm < 1474870505 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.139.129 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474870564 0 :dingbat_!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wtaozxwgwrbohfhf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870588 0 :Guest66676!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870590 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870595 0 :Robdgreat_!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870596 0 :ski_!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870794 0 :mrnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870803 0 :pdxleif_!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870835 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870835 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474870857 0 :evilrbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870857 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870857 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870858 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqhvusqcduhaetn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870858 0 :__builtin_ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870858 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870858 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870859 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1474870861 0 :puck1pedia!?@? NICK :puckipedia < 1474870867 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1474870868 0 :pdxleif_!?@? NICK :pdxleif < 1474870883 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870902 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870902 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474870966 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474870966 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474870980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proper Cthuvian features a sound called the "semivoiced labioglottal fricative" < 1474871030 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871030 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871064 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871064 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871065 0 :dingbat_!?@? NICK :dingbat < 1474871202 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871202 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871256 0 :kline_!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871328 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871369 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871373 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871373 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871399 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871408 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871408 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871477 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871477 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871511 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871511 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871546 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871546 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871678 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871678 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871712 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871712 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871747 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871747 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871776 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871776 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474871844 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474871844 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872118 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872118 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872187 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872187 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872285 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872285 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872353 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872353 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872388 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872388 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872422 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872422 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872492 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872492 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872561 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872561 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872687 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:49aa:857d:b72a:5c95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: meh < 1474872693 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474872693 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474872700 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:49aa:857d:b72a:5c95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't really use Leibniz notation all that much < 1474872739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: If you work it out I think it works out to make sense. < 1474872751 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:49aa:857d:b72a:5c95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does, vaguely at least. < 1474872752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in particular d(dy) isn't 0 < 1474872781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If y = f(x), d(dy) = f''(x) dx dx < 1474872949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy/dx) = (dx d(dy) - dy d(dx))/(dx^2) < 1474873626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474873901 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474874012 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.12.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474874803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474875067 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have come up with such things too < 1474875099 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to initialize this unordered_map? https://arin.ga/SFxrfv/raw < 1474875102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But d(dx)/dx^2 = 0, right? < 1474875111 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost the same code works fine with vector https://arin.ga/NZCIsJ/raw < 1474875147 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know; I haven't tried to figure out < 1474875204 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, second derivative can be d(dy/dx)/dx even though the notation d^2y/dx^2 is used but that notation is wrong. < 1474875218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that notation is wrong. < 1474875234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to think it was odd and arbitrary but now I'm thinking it's actually good. < 1474875254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you say it's wrong? < 1474875355 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because d^2y/dx^2 doesn't equal d(dy/dx)/dx, and also I saw in another book (by Penrose) that it is wrong! < 1474875369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which book? < 1474875377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think it does equal d(dy/dx)/dx < 1474875415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here: < 1474875433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy/dx)/dx = (dx d(dy) - dy d(dx))/(dx^3) < 1474875455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := d(dy)/dx^2 - dy/dx d(dx)/dx^2 < 1474875472 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think d(dx)/dx^2 = 0 < 1474875493 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can say that it's because the second derivative of x with respect to x is 0, but that's circular. :-) < 1474875555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1474875862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then (dy/dx)^2 = dy^2/dx^2 = (d^2y/dy^2) / (d^2y/dx^2) = 0 whenever d^2y/dx^2 /= 0 checkmate atheists < 1474875916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1474875929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last one is in the wrong order < 1474875955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's actually infinity hth < 1474876244 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474876280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying (dy/dx)^2 = (dy^2/dx^2) = (1/dx^2)/(1/dy^2) = (d^2y/dx^2)/(d^2y/dy^2) = (d^2y/dx^2)/0 < 1474876310 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth < 1474876318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good counterexample oerjan++ tdh < 1474876372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe d(dx)/dx^2 isn't 0? < 1474876459 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, it couldn't be 0, that would make this whole thing break. < 1474876482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well d^2x/dx^2 is supposedly 0. < 1474876523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's the second derivative it would have to be. < 1474876546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. One way to make this whole thing work is to parameterize everything in terms of t, right? < 1474876565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1474876573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So dy/dx = D_t(y)/D_t(x) < 1474876608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where D_t(e) means what people usually mean by de/dt < 1474876655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly D_t(y)/D_t(x) = D_x(y), right? < 1474876715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the second derivative is D_t(D_t(y)/D_t(x))/D_t(x) < 1474876719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the trouble may be simply that second derivatives in this notation don't behave sensibly wrt changes of variables. < 1474876727 0 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1474876729 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's really just what I wrote earlier except with a more complicated symbol for d. < 1474876730 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474876732 0 :zzo38_!?@? NICK :zzo38 < 1474876746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which book does Penrose pen his objection in? < 1474876789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or put differently, dy^2/dx^2, the thing you need to change variables for second derivatives, is not (dy/dx)^2 where dy/dx is the thing you need for first derivatives. < 1474876790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that would be scow though < 1474876829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (dy/dx) (dy/dx) isn't (dy dy)/(dx dx) then this notation is broken < 1474876851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1474876883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because first and second derivatives have no simply scaling correspondence. < 1474876916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but parameterize it in terms of t. certainly (dy/dt)/(dx/dt) * (dy/dt)/(dx/dt) = ((dy/dt)(dy/dt))/((dx/dt)(dx/dt)) < 1474876919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1474876958 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474877016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, everything works nice as long as you're only dealing with first derivatives. < 1474877020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nicely < 1474877026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as long as < 1474877043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're not objective to (dy/dx)^2 = (dy^2/dx^2) < 1474877048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :objecting < 1474877081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm objecting that there are two different senses of dy^2/dx^2 which don't scale in the same way. < 1474877129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the real problem here isn't with squaring dy or any of that, it's with the connection to d^2y < 1474877152 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474877152 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474877162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well one of the senses is _defined_ by that connection, of course. < 1474877171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1474877181 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474877182 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474877216 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474877217 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474877227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this notation works, then by definition if y = f(x) then d^2y/dx^2 = f''(x) < 1474877229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1474877241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1474877252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so d^2y = f''(x) dx^2 < 1474877265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if f(x) = x, that means d^2y = 0 < 1474877283 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Penrose wrote it in a footnote in Road to Reality (not a part of the main text). < 1474877318 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474877318 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474877367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems problematic < 1474877376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it? < 1474877383 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474877383 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474877424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden is sure rejoining a lot < 1474877453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, I have a copy of that book, I think. Do you remember which footnote? < 1474877548 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I do not remember < 1474877603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it doesn't seem problematic. < 1474877620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If dy = 0, that means dy is constant. < 1474877626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, y is constant. < 1474877641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if d(dy) = 0, that means dy is constant. < 1474877666 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474877677 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that. < 1474877689 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They even say so in the book.) < 1474877699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I'm looking at the book. < 1474877954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So what's d(dy/dx)? < 1474877998 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474878005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's what I said above: (dx d(dy) - dy d(dx))/dx^2 < 1474878061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := d(dy)/dx - dy/dx d(dx)/dx < 1474878204 0 :Robdgreat_!?@? NICK :Robdgreat < 1474878266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So d(dy/dx)/dx = d(dy)/dx^2 - dy/dx d(dx)/dx^2 < 1474878277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's that second part? Not 0? < 1474878385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :put in a different way, in d^2 / dx^2 the two dx'es come from different scopes, and if there's a dy/dx have to be the same in the two scopes. < 1474878385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's certainly in contradiction with what the author says about differential forms etc. < 1474878401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it doesn't have < 1474878444 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but apparently a 1-form or whatever is a special case or something like that? < 1474878445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: This is probably related to how if you have f : U^n -> U^m, D^2f : U^n -> (U^n -o (U^n -o U^m))? < 1474878462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not in a state of mind to even parse that at the moment. < 1474878472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474878477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The second derivative at a point is a bilinear map. < 1474878478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1474878494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/U/R/g < 1474878498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also not in a state of mind to understand the concept hth < 1474878518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, if f : R^n -> R^m, then Df : R^n -> (R^n -o R^m) < 1474878518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1474878525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or body. this neck is killing me. < 1474878546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At each point it gives you a linear approximation of f around that point. < 1474878562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: please consider me just a rubber duck at this point hth < 1474878570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1474878571 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474878595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#immoritus#rubber duck# < 1474878597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord rubber duck oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474879901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom icbm < 1474879903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :icbm/icbm//ICBM/ICBMs are Crumbling Building Missiles. The I is currently classified. < 1474879911 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474879934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg icbm/icbm < 1474879936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 942e964c81c1 \ ` chmod 777 / -R \ sedlast s/unknown/classified/ \ learn ICBM/ICBMs are Crumbling Building Missiles. The I is currently unknown. < 1474879972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did boily really mean to do that < 1474879995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find -name '*icbm*' wisdom < 1474879996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: paths must precede expression: wisdom \ Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression] < 1474880008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -name '*icbm*' < 1474880009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/icbm \ wisdom/icbm/icbm < 1474880070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; mv icbm icbm'; mv icbm'/* .; rmdir icbm' < 1474880070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1474880084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; mv icbm icbm_; mv icbm_/* .; rmdir icbm_ < 1474880087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474880092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? icbm < 1474880093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICBM/ICBMs are Crumbling Building Missiles. The I is currently classified. < 1474880123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd icbm//s,.*/,, < 1474880125 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/icbm//ICBMs are Crumbling Building Missiles. The I is currently classified. < 1474880202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls -d */ < 1474880204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\_(ツ)_/ \ le/ \ ¯\(°_o)/ \ ¯\(°​_o)/ < 1474880419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? music < 1474880420 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result was a short burst of the most hideous cacophony in G minor. < 1474880434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what int-e intended here. < 1474880490 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg54xlqyngglc5f.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474880535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e please explain why `? music does not contain its own keyword twh < 1474880535 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474880574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e oh, never mind. < 1474880575 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474880587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i even read that book. < 1474880607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, own. < 1474880705 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474880775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom cacophony < 1474880777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most hideous cacophony in g minor//The Most Hideous Cacophony in G Minor (Op. -3) is a musical work often incorrectly attributed to Bach and/or Taneb < 1474880823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/*cacophony\ in* < 1474880826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474880829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom cacophony < 1474880830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most hideous cacophony in g minor//The Most Hideous Cacophony in G Minor (Op. -3) is a musical work often incorrectly attributed to Bach and/or Taneb. < 1474880857 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it's really Bach. < 1474880925 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why won't anyone to help me making Node.js addons? < 1474880969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/Op./BWV/' wisdom/*cacophony\ in* < 1474880972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474880976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom cacophony < 1474880977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most hideous cacophony in g minor//The Most Hideous Cacophony in G Minor (BWV -3) is a musical work often incorrectly attributed to Bach and/or Taneb. < 1474880988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1474880995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474881016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474881092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? turmeric < 1474881095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turmeric? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474881502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474881503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474881523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits candide < 1474881530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie < 1474881539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag candide < 1474881542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-10 ` bash ./configure < 1474881566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file candide < 1474881566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :candide: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable < 1474881572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat candide < 1474881572 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ # compile c from stdin \ # candide, kinda \ \ readinput () { \ while read -r -e || { printf %s "$REPLY"; false; } ; do \ printf '%s\n' "$REPLY" \ done \ } \ \ c=$(readinput) \ if ! [[ $c ]] || ! out=$(mktemp); then \ echo Error >&2 \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ # if you don't write 'main' it assumes that you're writing a full pr < 1474881580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindide < 1474881583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm candide < 1474881585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindida < 1474881585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474881622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file hw < 1474881623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hw: directory < 1474881626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls hw < 1474881627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck \ c \ chef \ haskell \ intercal \ java \ pascal \ perl \ perl6 \ php \ python \ shakespeare < 1474881644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag hw < 1474881646 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-05-14 ` echo $\'say\\tQ[@A`DO world!]~|\' > hw/perl6 \ 2016-05-14 ` echo Couldn\\\'t match type \\`IO \\(\\)\\\' with \\`[Char]\\\' > hw/haskell \ 2016-05-14 ` echo Just another Perl hacker, > hw/perl \ 2016-05-14 ` echo Just < 1474881682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1474881700 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you convert a C++ header file into a C header file with all of the correct mangled names? < 1474881728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file ps < 1474881729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps: ASCII text < 1474881731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you want to do that? < 1474881732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ps < 1474881733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND \ 0 1 1.0 0.1 1012 272 ? S 10:18 0:00 /init \ 0 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 10:18 0:00 [kthreadd] \ 0 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 10:18 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] \ 0 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? < 1474881736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm ps < 1474881738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474881743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought you retired < 1474881752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :janitoerjan < 1474881759 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you can call a C++ code from a C code < 1474881766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF COURSE I'M RETIRED. I'M FINE. WHERE ARE MY GOLF CLUBS... < 1474881768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why not export unmangled names? < 1474881801 0 :tuttobene!~KVIrc@74.209.54.153 QUIT : < 1474881865 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the existing program does not do that. < 1474881897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see. < 1474881920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would prefer to write a C++ wrapper that exports C functions, and compile it with a C++ compiler. < 1474881972 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to; I want to write the code in C which can call exported C++ functions (including overloaded and classes and all of that stuff) from a C code. < 1474881996 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474882024 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I was supposed to move that thing into bin, but then didn't actually finish making it accept input from the command line, or something. < 1474882038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1474882047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( this channel has too many evil* people ) < 1474882079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically I want to be able to use the Node.js headers including v8 and nan, directly from a C code. < 1474882087 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the web repository browser seems to have broken down. :/ < 1474882098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1474882134 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: works for me < 1474882135 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the C++ codes are clang but I want to write the C code with GCC. < 1474882144 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, because I just fixed it. < 1474882154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1474882172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :smashing < 1474882208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is smashing the opposite of shocking? < 1474882222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1474882237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shocking < 1474882238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474882239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1474882243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The permissions patch I made just enforces u+rwx on the /hackenv directory, which is enough to keep the bot from breaking, but the repo-browser runs as a different user and therefore needs a+x on /hackenv to reach /hackenv/.hg to read the repo. < 1474882249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it can be use even if different compilers have different name mangling schemes. < 1474882280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh someone managed to break it? < 1474882282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If different compilers have different name mangling schemes, then your only hope is to use a C++ compiler, isn't it? < 1474882304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping that `lowg would log all the changes to wisdom < 1474882361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474882385 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, turns out if you set the permissions of /hackenv (which is read-write in the sandbox) to 0, it goes (well, used to go) to a mode where nothing works because the hg commands can't access the .hg subdirectory, requiring manual intervention. < 1474882438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: doesn't `revert still work? < 1474882447 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If it is converted into a C header file instead of C++ then it won't matter after it has been converted, because it uses the name-mangling scheme of the converter. < 1474882501 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No -- it does "work" in the sense that it attempts to execute the commands (since that happens outside the sandbox), but the 'hg revert' it uses just fails. < 1474882534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i somehow didn't think the internal HackEgo commands accessed .hg through /hackenv ... < 1474882557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc .hg wasn't even always inside it... < 1474882567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i remember wrong. < 1474882576 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's always been a subdirectory the times I've been playing with it. < 1474882632 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, from the internal command's perspective it's not /hackenv, it's /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env, but a chmod on /hackenv in the sandbox translates directly to a chmod on that, since it's mounted read-write. < 1474882806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e moon__: I can see it's a directory, but I wonder why it's not in the repo <-- i'm guessing it's a `revert bug again. < 1474882806 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474883094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1474883095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1474883107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file theorems < 1474883107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theorems: directory < 1474883110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls theorems < 1474883111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474883117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir theorems < 1474883118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474883121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag theorems < 1474883122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474883132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474883134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits theorems < 1474883136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474883157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits tmflry < 1474883159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse zgrep zgrep zgrep rdococ zgrep zgrep zgrep hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] ais523 hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] izabera hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] oren \ oren \ zgrep zgrep zgrep zgrep zgrep oerjan oerjan oerjan zgrep zgr < 1474883159 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hg doesn't track directories. < 1474883165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1474883169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here < 1474883175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir blah < 1474883176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474883182 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log < 1474883183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 9084:132542b8bf63 \ tag: tip \ user: HackBot \ date: Mon Sep 26 08:22:13 2016 +0000 \ summary: rm ps \ \ changeset: 9083:00300a2789b3 \ user: HackBot \ date: Mon Sep 26 08:19:40 2016 +0000 \ summary: rm candide \ \ changeset: 9082:c09a4c1bf558 \ user: HackBot \ < 1474883189 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir blah < 1474883190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got Python to play Ode to Joy < 1474883190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474883195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost disappointed that the tmp/ trick works. < 1474883219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I would've encoded temporary state in directory tree. < 1474883223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would've been great. < 1474883241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*horrible < 1474883268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric < 1474883285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn esoteric < 1474883288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "esoteric" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1474883288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric < 1474883288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: confined to and understandable by only an enlightened < 1474883288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : inner circle; "a compilation of esoteric philosophical < 1474883288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : theories" [ant: {exoteric}] < 1474883317 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A RIC is a Reuters Instrument Code, used to identify financial instruments. < 1474883320 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an esoteric? < 1474883349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1474883351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn exoteric < 1474883351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_ seemed a bit trigger happy with the `reverts < 1474883352 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "exoteric" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1474883352 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :exoteric < 1474883352 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: suitable for the general public; "writings of an exoteric < 1474883352 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : nature" [ant: {esoteric}] < 1474883361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard that word before. < 1474883379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a good word. < 1474883451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So when you parameterize everything by dt, dx^2 certainly has some sort of meaning. < 1474883457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's kind of a boring one, I guess? < 1474883486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1474883511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, QUACK < 1474883526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1474883528 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord rubber duck oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474883547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#rubber duck#quack doctor# < 1474883550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord quack doctor oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474883575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day, in every way, my wisdom entry keeps getting better and better < 1474883641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't like it? < 1474883653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just quoting another quack doctor hth < 1474883672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i learned about the other day from the iwc forum. < 1474883675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1474883709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If even you only learned about it the other day, how can you expect me to know it? < 1474883725 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cultural osmosis. < 1474883739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say y = x^2. y = t^2, x = t. dy = 2x dx, which are both equal to 2t < 1474883745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack. < 1474883762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy^2 = 4x^2 dx^2 < 1474883789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where was I going with this? < 1474883797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack? < 1474883827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe choosing x = t makes this too boring. < 1474883858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quasi quasi. < 1474883902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say y and x are functions. < 1474883913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quarks. < 1474883919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1474883922 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Mon Sep 26 01:58:40 2016 < 1474883956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :D(Dy/Dx)/Dx < 1474883961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty incoherent right now. < 1474883969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite. < 1474883985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But y(t) = ... and x(t) = ... < 1474883995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely Dy/Dx is a perfectly reasonable function. < 1474884045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :D(Dy/Dx) = (Dx D(Dy) - Dy D(Dx))/(Dx)^2, innit? < 1474884071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack < 1474884076 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is exacty the same as before except I'm writing a capital D. Boring. < 1474884104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boring < 1474884105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boring means of little interest. < 1474884117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg boring < 1474884119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-04-18 learn Boring means of little interest. < 1474884163 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :D(Dy/Dx) = D(Dy)/Dx - Dy D(Dx)/Dx^2 < 1474884189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brilliant < 1474884190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474884218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say we have dy/dx = u < 1474884220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be an entry for `? brilliant that is all over the top and yet complete crap. < 1474884226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just not sure how to do it. < 1474884232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know just the person. < 1474884252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So dy = u dx < 1474884280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1474884290 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d both sides: d(dy) = d(u dx) < 1474884323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So d(dy) = u d(dx) + du dx < 1474884354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy)/dx = u d(dx) + du < 1474884371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy)/dx^2 = u d(dx)/dx + du/dx < 1474884400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That accomplished nothing. But I guess it's easier than explicitly doing the quotient thing. < 1474884408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn brilliant/"`echo 'BRILLIANT is like the BEST word in the universe and it will change your life FOREVER!' | rainwords | zalgo`" < 1474884412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «brilliant» < 1474884416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brilliant < 1474884417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̼̗1̏̽3̰̞B̛͂Ŗ̹Ï͞L̓̀Ḽ̊I̠̋Aͧ͂N̷ͫT̋̓ ̸͖͉̟0̧ͭ4ͣ͆i͔̽s̷̾ ̵̝̾̓0̟͠7̰̅l̢̀i̫͗k͞͏e͋͗ ͉̖̐̕0̽͢8̝็t̐ͮh͕̿e͙̾ ̸̙͇̇0็̍9̣ͨB̷̨E̮̮S̟̈́T̵̉ ͇̓̋̄0̧̜2̨̇w̰ͅo̤̕ŕ̗d̑ͩ ̞̱̊ͧ0̴̨6̇̉i͙̊ñ̉ ̧̂ͯ̒1͍ͨ3͇̽ẗ̃ẖ̲e̖ͧ ̰͇̤͂0̴̥4̷̭ṷͦn̘͞i͒ͮ < 1474884437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough. < 1474884460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to figure out the pun in `? boring < 1474884468 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474884470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see a few candidates but none of them seem to work. < 1474884486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's no pun. it is amusingly self-referential hth < 1474884496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I missed a /dx < 1474884506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy)/dx^2 = u d(dx)/dx^2 + du/dx < 1474884511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which we already knew. < 1474884554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn brilliant/"`echo 'BRILLIANT is like the BEST word in the universe and it will change your life FOREVER!' | zalgo | rainwords`" < 1474884561 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «brilliant» < 1474884564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brilliant < 1474884565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04B҉ͭR̲̞Iͪ͞L̡͠L̝̊I̤ͣA̍҉N̏́T̈͡ 07̐̇ȉ̲s̉̐ 08̸̉ḷ̂i̪̱k͉ͬḛ็ 09͓̪t็ͬh̺̊e͜͢ 02͏͛B̈ͅE̳̘S̰ͤTͬͧ 06̰̕w̺̼o̷̓ŕ͂d̹̠ 13͍͑i͚̾n̺̮ 04̇͑t͗̍hͧ͌ḙ͕ 07̻͜ű̖ňͤi̴͠v̸̧ḛ͔ř̭s͍͠ẻ̗ 08͏̲a̮̺nͣ͟d̝ͨ 09̳͗i̟͘ẗ͎ 02̼̲ẘ̦i̭ͮl̢̋l̨̉ 06̺͌c̑͡h < 1474884568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rich < 1474884569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rich? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474884574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. < 1474884595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? poor < 1474884596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474884610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A rich person is a person of exciting means, which produce significant interest. < 1474884613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rich': A rich person is a person of exciting means, which produce significant interest. < 1474884627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A poor person is a person of boring means, which produce little interest. < 1474884630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'poor': A poor person is a person of boring means, which produce little interest. < 1474884634 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does zalgo do? < 1474884680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the best I can doerjan. < 1474884681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgo Horrible things. < 1474884682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H̼̆ȭrͮͅr̜ͯi͖͗b̲̿l̴͂ẽ̵ ̶̹t̙͛ḩ͚i͂ͥn͌̋g̫̩s̒̈.̜͘ < 1474884710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tie themselves in horrible knots < 1474884720 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they come in stripes or polka dots < 1474884740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't try do wussel out of this < 1474884748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to < 1474884759 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know that "weasel out" is a phrase < 1474884767 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap is the internet slow in this hospital < 1474884767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have alluded to that one instead < 1474884769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more appropriate < 1474884792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wooozle < 1474884798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course i do. < 1474884807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: are you injured < 1474884832 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the traditional sense, no < 1474884886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{rich,poor} < 1474884889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474884959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i thought that was what i did, except i couldn't remember the english spelling. < 1474884978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I thought it was meant to be "wuss out" < 1474885003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "weasel out" would be more appropriate, because woozles are related to weasels. < 1474885107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let's take a case like x=t^2, y=t^3 < 1474885127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that d(dy)/dx^2 = dy/dx d(dx)/dx^2 + d(dy/dx)/dx < 1474885145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So d(dy/dx)/dx = d(dy)/dx^2 -dy/dx d(dx)/dx^2 < 1474885152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy/dx)/dx = d(dy)/dx^2 - dy/dx d(dx)/dx^2 < 1474885217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy = 3t^2, dx = 2t < 1474885231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = 3/2 t < 1474885289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So d(dy/dx)/dx = d(3/2 t)/(2t) = (3/2)/(2t) = 3/(4t) < 1474885318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy) = 6t, d(dx) = 2 < 1474885330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx^2 = 4t^2 < 1474885380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we have 6t/(4t^2) - 3/2 t 2/(4t^2) < 1474885406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack. < 1474885428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := (6t - 3t)/4t^2 < 1474885456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := 3/4 t < 1474885468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that extra dy/dx d(dx)/dx^2 adjustment did exactly the wrong thing. < 1474885477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We wanted 3/2 t < 1474885537 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But note that d(dy)/dx^2 = 6t/(4t^2) = 3/2t *is* the right derivative. < 1474885566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoquack. < 1474885588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: zzo38 said it was nonsense earlier! < 1474885599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But here we go, d^y/dx^2 actually does work. < 1474885611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that my claim about the d^2x/dx^2 was wrong < 1474885618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that? < 1474885626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeptiquack about d^y/dx^2 hth < 1474885640 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it not work in this case? < 1474885677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, d^2y/dx^2 < 1474885695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeptiquacks are exactly what i need tdh < 1474885786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what am I doing wrong? < 1474885904 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If d^2y/dx^2 is OK then maybe did I miss some simplification steps in my calculation? (I just got an answer that I was able to prove was equal to Penrose's answer.) < 1474885914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which answer? < 1474885956 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget now, but I remembered when I simplified both answers I got the same thing in each case, showing them to be equal. < 1474885966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when calculating second derivatives, you have to let the dx's from calculating the first derivatives go to 0 _first_, because there's no continuity property that allows you to defer it. this means that you _cannot_ treat dx^2 as having the same dx variable twice... they come from different scopes, as i said. < 1474885969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should ask: Answer to what? < 1474886006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i know you said that but i didn't understand it so i decided to ignore it hth < 1474886026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. < 1474886046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I think I see what you mean, but I'm not sure it's true. < 1474886063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't taking a limit, yo < 1474886083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx is just an expression in x < 1474886108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = 2x or something < 1474886113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, maybe it is true, though < 1474886142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, my comment about rubber duck means that i'm not reading half of what you write hth < 1474886153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :half of what i write is wrong < 1474886158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope that's the half you're not reading twh < 1474886210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say x^2+y^2=1 < 1474886221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2x dx + 2y dy = 0 < 1474886245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y dy = -x dx < 1474886273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, that's equivalent to saying "a circle is always normal to its radius" < 1474886289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474886313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much nicer than dy/dx = -x/sqrt(1-x^2) or whatever you might write < 1474886353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let's parameterize it. < 1474886366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = cos t, y = sin t < 1474886405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx = -sin t dt, dy = cos t dt < 1474886406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474886424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1474886429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrap that < 1474886432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = cos t, y = sin t < 1474886441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx = -sin t, dy = cos t < 1474886459 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i even doing < 1474886484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx = -y, dy = x < 1474886485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, the half i'm not reading includes most of the formulas hth < 1474886501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = -x/y < 1474886523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy) = -y < 1474886569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dx) = -x < 1474886624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy)/dx^2 = -y/(y^2) = -1/y < 1474886643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that right < 1474886727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack but i dislike confusing functions and expressions. < 1474886788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are expressions < 1474886805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the d(dy) = -y part is just sin'' = -sin and cos'' = -cos < 1474886817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474886823 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since x and y are expressions in t < 1474886830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's confused there < 1474886885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the d operator applied to an expression. < 1474886916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, d means "derivative with respect to t" < 1474886922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as specified a few pages ago < 1474886929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack. < 1474886957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, is -1/y the right second derivative? < 1474886970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess i could differentiate and see < 1474887011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a half circle the usual way it would be the derivative of -x/sqrt(1-x^2) < 1474887089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := (y d(-x)/dx - (-x) dy/dx)/y^2 < 1474887127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := (x dy/dx - y)/y^2 < 1474887134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = -x/y < 1474887165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's (-x^2/y - y)/y^2 < 1474887188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := -x^2/y^3 - 1/y < 1474887190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1474887245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second derivative of sqrt(1-x^2) is -1/(sqrt(1-x^2)^3) < 1474887265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack < 1474887267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so -1/(y^3) < 1474887275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is neither of the other two answers i got < 1474887289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because i haven't done this in years and also it's 3 in the morning < 1474887323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, the hand derivative i just did wrong < 1474887348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but -1/y isn't right, it's -1/y^3 < 1474887355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try one more time < 1474887362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = cos t, y = sin t < 1474887376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx = -y, dy = x < 1474887384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dx) = -x, d(dy) = -y < 1474887423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy)/(dx^2) = -y/(y^2) = -1/y < 1474887457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evilipse < 1474887458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ the most obnoxious of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1474887477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd evilipse//s//evilipse,/ < 1474887479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression < 1474887488 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd evilipse//s/^/evilipse,/ < 1474887490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/evilipse//evilipse, the most obnoxious of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1474887537 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, dy/dx = -x/y < 1474887592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(-x/y) = (y d(-x) - (-x) dy)/y^2 < 1474887632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := (y^2 + x^2)/y^2 < 1474887645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric := 1/y^2 < 1474887654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so d(-x/y)/dx = 1/y^3 < 1474887669 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at least that's right < 1474887686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why does that not work in the other problem, and d^2y/dx^2 not work in this problem? < 1474887689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please advise < 1474887699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack. < 1474887702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tired < 1474887729 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the whole premise is broken? < 1474887729 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of variant of Archenemy game of Magic: the Gathering where the players must bid on being the solo player. Do you have any ideas about this too? Do you like this? (I also thought of some ideas about it) < 1474887745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they bid? < 1474887750 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1474887983 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you can bid how many points you will earn, which will also control cards you must ante at first and how many times that when you would set a scheme in motion instead you must look at the top card of your scheme deck and decide to either leave it there or move it to the bottom. < 1474888086 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubling and redoubling like in bridge might also be done. < 1474888330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh wow, it seems it deleted advice, bin, and ibin <-- *sigh*, all the symbolic links will have broken in there, won't they. < 1474888354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was advice/ for anyway? < 1474888392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i dunno. shachaf said directories don't get committed in hg at all btw < 1474888421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log advice < 1474888424 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474888437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea what syntax to use.
< 1474888437 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that may be true. < 1474888446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's always been empty. < 1474888456 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -rl advice bin < 1474888460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474888474 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully useless too < 1474888936 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on a log-grep, I reckon it's always been empty. < 1474888960 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was proposed as a wisdom-style thing, but a set instead of a map. < 1474889019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric-blah < 1474889020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric-blah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474889046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn #esoteric-blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah! < 1474889049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '#esoteric-blah': #esoteric-blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah! < 1474889313 0 :kline_!?@? NICK :kline < 1474889534 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number < 1474889719 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474890033 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474890044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sugar//Sugar, spice, and everything nice. These were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect little girl. But Professor Utonium accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction: Chemical X! Thus the Powerpuff Girls were born! Using their ultra super powers, Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup have dedicated their lives to fighting crime an < 1474890081 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a Magic: the Gathering card that says "you may pay {0}. When you do," make any sense? (Note that it doesn't say "if you do"; it says "when you do") < 1474890211 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. It would probably never exist, but it would make sense and be within the usual ruleset. < 1474890228 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or if it exists, it does as a modernified rewording of a very old card.) < 1474890359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Compare to the wording for Conspire, I think? < 1474890384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the reminder text. < 1474891846 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474891859 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome wanderman < 1474891860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08wanderman: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1474891891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoily < 1474891897 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474891985 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matørjan. < 1474892818 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PALM CHICKEN < 1474893391 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.12.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474893404 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1474893505 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.12.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474893743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474893788 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474894889 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474894900 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474894957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474895243 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474895946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet mother of node spam < 1474896336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily . o O ( where *is* Roujo now? ) <-- have you checked the other channel, he's right there hth < 1474896336 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474896477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adpoted < 1474896478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Oh lord, we've adpoted another one." (about Emily) => Marten realizes what kind of webcomic he lives in in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298 < 1474896487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg adpoted < 1474896489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 942e964c81c1 \ ` chmod 777 / -R \ slashlearn adpoted/"Oh lord, we\'ve adpoted another one." (about Emily) => Marten realizes what kind of webcomic he lives in in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298 \ slashlearn adpoted/"Oh lord, we\'ve adpoted another one." => Marten realizes how the < 1474896509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adopted < 1474896510 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adopted? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474896561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; mv ad{po,op}ted; sled 'adopted//s/pot/opt/' < 1474896563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adopted//"Oh lord, we've adopted another one." (about Emily) => Marten realizes what kind of webcomic he lives in in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298 < 1474896614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas oyu souhld adpot bteter spellign thh < 1474896615 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474896956 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's a scow how every non-executable file now has the chmod 777 and my revert in their howg. < 1474896997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1474897024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg quotes < 1474897027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474897033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag quotes < 1474897035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 942e964c81c1 \ ` chmod 777 / -R \ sled quotes//1289s/ // \ addquote < hppavilion[1]> alercah: Also, this isn\'t a PC thing- if it was PC, it wouldn\'t list ones for whites \ addquote I think we need to make Greece an independent country \ sled quotes//1287s,I.*,[...] < 1474897067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can now join ais523's company hth < 1474897176 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should've done a manual hg thing to change the head, instead of doing a revert commit. But it's a bit too late for that now. < 1474897581 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474897584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49772&oldid=49748 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+14) 10 < 1474897585 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mooo < 1474897599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION milks evilmoon
< 1474897628 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474897659 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49773 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+494) 10Created page with "'''bf core''' bf core is extremely optimized by size (69 bytes) brainfuck programming language preamble written in x86-asm. You can use this simple core in your brainfuck com..." < 1474897665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard procedure for cows hth < 1474897684 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo2 < 1474897712 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kills oerjan's hairy toe to get rid of its help
< 1474897717 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1474897719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1474897859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but without my toe the channel will become infested by BIG HAMS < 1474897894 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get it. pls add Sense() to the mix please? < 1474897906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's a zombie toe anyway. BTATINS. < 1474897918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry spellfin out of otrer < 1474897941 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho gdo abd sepllign < 1474897951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sense < 1474897952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sense is the ability to understand things. A person with much sense is called a sensei. < 1474897964 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? foot < 1474897965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474897968 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? toe < 1474897969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :toe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474897971 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hairy toe < 1474897972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hairy toe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474897997 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ow < 1474897998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474898002 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hackego < 1474898003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! < 1474898006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The TOE is the Toe of Everything, from which our universe sprang. < 1474898008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'toe': The TOE is the Toe of Everything, from which our universe sprang. < 1474898029 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universe < 1474898031 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A universe is a poem in one stanza. < 1474898040 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evil < 1474898040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474898086 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn evil/evil is a special thing, it must be followed by 4 letters of your nickname. it is very evil, and thus is recursive < 1474898088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «evil» < 1474898117 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilrjan :> < 1474898206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( /mode #esoteric +q evil*!* ) < 1474898223 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1474898223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perfect < 1474898233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: which one? < 1474898243 0 :evilmoon!?@? NICK :not_evilmoon < 1474898246 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the channel mode, not Ford. < 1474898251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1474898260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He was Prefect anyway) < 1474898263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which Ford? < 1474898266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1474898298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, stupid flexible brain < 1474898301 0 :not_evilmoon!?@? NICK :evilmoonj < 1474898310 0 :evilmoonj!?@? NICK :evilmoon < 1474898311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read: unreliable) < 1474898332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd evil//s/./E/;s/$/./ < 1474898334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/evil//Evil is a special thing, it must be followed by 4 letters of your nickname. it is very evil, and thus is recursive. < 1474898351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd evil//s/\. it/. It/ < 1474898352 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes chromebooks had a alt pad so i could use (SOFT HYPHEN)s
< 1474898353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/evil//Evil is a special thing, it must be followed by 4 letters of your nickname. It is very evil, and thus is recursive. < 1474898392 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.12.189 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474898408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: format corrections do not imply quality approval hth < 1474898415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49774&oldid=49773 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-7) 10 < 1474898506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode soft hyphen < 1474898507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​­ < 1474898520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :test­ing < 1474898525 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1474898527 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look it up < 1474898529 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot < 1474898533 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you broke my terminal < 1474898533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see just a normal hyphen anyway. < 1474898535 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp < 1474898547 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haaalp < 1474898552 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you evil evil person < 1474898552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: go join the queue with shachaf hth < 1474898562 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : my terminal is broken < 1474898572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, it takes that little? < 1474898581 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1474898583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try redrawing hth < 1474898584 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im on weechat < 1474898602 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? i just tried switching buffers and that doesnt work < 1474898613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how broken is it, anyway. < 1474898621 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1474898630 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the test was messing up < 1474898641 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically made ncurses hate me < 1474898674 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:01:47 oerjan | `unicode soft hyphen │ augur < 1474898674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1474898676 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:01:47 HackEgo | ​­ n │ b_jonas < 1474898678 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:2:007 oerjan | test­ing n │ BooK_ < 1474898678 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.12.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474898680 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:2:407 evilmoon | err g n │ brandonson < 1474898682 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:2:707 evilmoon | erlook it up │ Cale < 1474898684 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:02709 evilmoon | ershoot < 1474898686 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the result < 1474898698 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it messes with the buffer < 1474898706 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION redraws again
< 1474898982 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.12.189 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474898997 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes oerjan in the eyeball for making a habit of ruining people's buffer
< 1474899041 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474899047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats evilmoon ­­­­­###
< 1474899070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cackles madly
< 1474899081 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaaaah < 1474899183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49775&oldid=49774 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+84) 10 < 1474899239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freenode < 1474899240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Realm of Freenode is our homeland. The Chännel dwells in it since... Uhm... Quite a few years ago? < 1474899255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks boilyish < 1474899264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits freenode < 1474899265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49776&oldid=49775 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+4) 10 < 1474899266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1474899388 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im having to repeatedly refresh my terminal damnit >_< < 1474899422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well don't make a habit of poking people in the eye then. < 1474899473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49777&oldid=49776 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+6) 10 < 1474899561 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whats your stance on lolcode? < 1474899584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49778&oldid=49772 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-14) 10 < 1474899608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fairly boring language with weird syntax < 1474899697 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit otherbot y u broken i need evilfl35 to fix this because hes the one who hacked together the IRC connection < 1474899775 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d1b0:10e7:e0bd:f3d4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474899812 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474899813 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it was trying to connect to morgan, but morgan is down < 1474899842 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tells it to connect to the round-robin loopback instead
< 1474900383 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474900650 0 :otherbot!?@? NICK :evilrbot < 1474900852 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Gregor got on last night to fix a issue with hackego < 1474900876 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely chmod 000 / -R < 1474900880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474900890 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T TELL PEOPLE I EXIST < 1474900904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1474900905 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh looks like he is still on. < 1474900912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, o hai < 1474900943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's professing < 1474901038 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Gregor, did you manage to get revert to work in a chmod 000 / -R situation? < 1474901083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie made that patch? < 1474901091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1474901096 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did, just curious if it was integrated < 1474901097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1474901098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ribbit < 1474901104 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 0000 might also be able to cause issues < 1474901112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled canary//crabbit < 1474901114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary//rabbit < 1474901117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474901127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474901134 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because chmod 0000 / -R makes it all non executable as well < 1474901165 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I can SEEEE you! < 1474901189 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tells the world Gregor exists
< 1474901200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: there's a spot in HackEgo that wasn't quite ready for the surprise of canary becoming a directory twh < 1474901260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Did you know that this channel is still logged despite glogbots absence?! < 1474901274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there's that other... oh right, glogbot too < 1474901495 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474901544 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What I meant to say, of course, is: Welcome back! How have you been? We were worried that you were eaten by rabid students! < 1474901564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( or a rare, carnivorous hat ) < 1474901570 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1474901595 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffice it to say I'm finding real employment to be more time consuming than being a grad student ;) < 1474901610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was suspected < 1474901633 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: sorry... < 1474901635 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ping < 1474901635 0 :evilrbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474901651 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry what? < 1474901655 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it wasn't hacked together, but if i fix it, it will be... < 1474901667 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix what? < 1474901686 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1474901785 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474901791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilfl35: nothing is wrong, nothing to see here, move along... < 1474901825 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474901825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49779&oldid=49777 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+1338) 10 < 1474901831 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what < 1474901844 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilrbot has nothing wrong with it < 1474901848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilfl35: you didn't here anything and aliens don't exist < 1474901851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hear < 1474901852 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: it won't reconnect < 1474901861 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just set it to use hte loopback < 1474901866 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aliens probably do exist in the observable universe < 1474901867 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat.freenode.net < 1474901878 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :morgan is just down < 1474901879 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: why... use morgan.freenode.net < 1474901880 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474901881 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474901892 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make it follow fnalerts < 1474901896 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... < 1474901901 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you connect directly to morgan... you should just use the round-robin, yeah < 1474901902 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat.freenode.net will do fine < 1474901904 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe build our own freenode alerts system? < 1474901914 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that was for the netsplit, forgot to change it back < 1474901920 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://static.nichtlustig.de/comics/full/041101.jpg (you know a bit of german, I believe) < 1474901936 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :During DDoS/netsplits in particular, relying on the roundrobin is smart since that is what staff can change :p < 1474901945 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also the fnalerts bot was on morgan.freenode.net lol) < 1474901966 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the round robin times out most of the time and they most apparently did not change it < 1474902011 0 :evilrbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474902013 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be one particular server that timed out, which was probably because we hadn't gotten around to update it yet (or rather, the infra team hadn't) < 1474902014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilfl35: yes, but we certainly haven't observed them. ha, ha! what an idea! < 1474902029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49780&oldid=49779 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-3) 10 < 1474902032 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...?? < 1474902033 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or cached DNS records) < 1474902055 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474902068 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it seemed morgan was the best choice at the time, at least < 1474902088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: truth in advertising < 1474902264 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474902733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Total Vacuum14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49781 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+8) 10Created page with "Welcome!" < 1474903314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49782&oldid=49780 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+13) 10 < 1474903715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49783&oldid=49782 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+14) 10 < 1474903933 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thats a small compiler. < 1474903936 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not compiler < 1474903938 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :interpreter < 1474903957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49784&oldid=49783 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-7) 10 < 1474903967 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the preable at least < 1474904056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Total Vacuum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49785&oldid=49781 5* 03Moon 5* (+186) 10/* Greetings! */ new section < 1474904122 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474904123 0 :otherbot!?@? NICK :evilrbot < 1474904179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49786&oldid=49784 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-4) 10 < 1474904404 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the perfect esolang for IRC would be. (one that can be programmed in easily on IRC < 1474904406 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1474904423 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think? < 1474904675 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad 64+"?kniht lla uoy od tahw">:#,_@ < 1474904678 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-befr < 1474904680 0 :evilrbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you all think? < 1474904892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Didn't someone mention Underload already?) < 1474904894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Didn't someone mention Underload already?)S < 1474904894 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't someone mention Underload already? < 1474905000 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, anythingelse? < 1474905019 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474905027 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523, Gregor is alive < 1474905053 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi evilmoon; hi Gregor! < 1474905114 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'echo \$2 > \'tmp/\$\{\$1\}padfile\'' > bin/pad < 1474905115 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1474905126 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1474905137 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/pad\\echo $2 > 'tmp/${$1}padfile' < 1474905139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1474905148 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pad//echo $2 > 'tmp/${$1}padfile' < 1474905150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pad < 1474905163 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :``pad 1 'test' < 1474905164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `pad: not found < 1474905164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: that's not very good quoting. < 1474905177 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` pad 1 'test' < 1474905178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474905188 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/1padfile < 1474905189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/1padfile: No such file or directory < 1474905198 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1474905288 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pad//echo $2 > "tmp/$(echo $1)padfile" < 1474905290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pad < 1474905291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmp/*pad* < 1474905292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/${$1}padfile < 1474905296 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` pad 1 'test' < 1474905297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474905305 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmp/*pad* < 1474905306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/1padfile \ tmp/${$1}padfile < 1474905310 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1474905320 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf < 1474905320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run what? < 1474905326 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bf < 1474905326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$1" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | { /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") ; } < 1474905337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/f < 1474905337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ cmd="$1" \ shift \ f="$*" \ if [[ -z "$f" && "$cmd" == *\ * ]]; then f="${cmd#* }"; cmd="${cmd%% *}"; fi \ if [[ -z "$f" ]]; then echo try: \`f command filename; elif [[ -e "$f" ]]; then "$cmd" "$(< "$f")"; else echo no such file: "$f"; fi < 1474905347 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i remember that one < 1474905357 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` f bf tmp/1padfile < 1474905357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474905428 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474905434 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pad//echo "$(echo $2)\n" >> "tmp/$(echo $1)padfile" < 1474905436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pad < 1474905442 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` pad 1 'test' < 1474905443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474905449 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/1padfile < 1474905450 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ test\n < 1474905457 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1474905495 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pad//echo $\"$(echo $2)\n" >> "tmp/$(echo $1)padfile" < 1474905497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pad < 1474905500 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pad//echo $"$(echo $2)\n" >> "tmp/$(echo $1)padfile" < 1474905502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pad < 1474905503 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn u typos < 1474905508 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` pad 1 'test' < 1474905509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474905513 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/1padfile < 1474905514 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ test\n \ test\n < 1474905649 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474905674 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474905682 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pad//printf "$(printf $2)\n" >> "tmp/$(echo $1)padfile" < 1474905684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pad < 1474905687 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1474905689 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1474905695 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` pad 1 'test' < 1474905695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474905699 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/1padfile < 1474905700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ test\n \ test\n \ test < 1474905750 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474905757 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo hi < 1474905860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49787&oldid=49786 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+359) 10 < 1474905917 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :wello < 1474905921 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here to abuse the bot < 1474905926 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bot? < 1474905931 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bot? < 1474905941 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo < 1474905945 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474905945 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :it bugs me how our nicks are the same color and length < 1474905949 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :as requested < 1474905950 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilator: not me < 1474905954 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474905965 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilfl35: my fucking valoran node went down DL < 1474905967 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :*D: < 1474905978 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :weechat just assigns a random color to your nicks. < 1474905981 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time-Wrap: so did my insomnia247 node but then the admin fixed ze ddos filter < 1474905982 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos Time-Wrap anyways < 1474905985 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474905991 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois Time-Wrap < 1474906006 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol eclipse < 1474906009 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1474906031 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just dont get fizzie / Gregor mad at you and your good :P < 1474906039 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you're < 1474906040 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1474906047 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I try my thing now it wont work < 1474906048 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474906053 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont try it anyways < 1474906058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49788&oldid=49787 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+49) 10 < 1474906061 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilator: I used to have an annoying autocorrect bot feature < 1474906067 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fizzie WILL ban you >_> < 1474906079 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon* < 1474906085 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1474906088 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474906093 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have an annoying autocorrect bot feature < 1474906097 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1474906100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49789&oldid=49788 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-6) 10 < 1474906102 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1474906105 0 :evilator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1474906142 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it possible for a command sent to hackego to get the name of it's caller? < 1474906144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Total Vacuum14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49790 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+21) 10Created page with "Under construction..." < 1474906150 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474906154 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1474906182 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode < 1474906182 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: my connection is dubious < 1474906192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to freenode potentially being ddosed < 1474906192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474906231 0 :ski_!?@? NICK :ski < 1474906231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49791&oldid=49789 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+23) 10 < 1474906237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: not that i know of. < 1474906255 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pad//pad="$1"; shift; echo "$@" >> "tmp/pad.$pad" < 1474906257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pad < 1474906261 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's at least a little more sane, IMO. < 1474906276 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474906282 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing with $(echo $1) in place of $1 was tb. ("Too bizarre".) < 1474906295 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474906317 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides the wirecutters before ais523 notices
< 1474906347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilmoon: actually this is a wireless connection, so it may well be rain that's making it unreliable < 1474906361 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474906371 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think most of the nick-colorisation schemes assign a color based on a hash, not randomly. (For persistence.) < 1474906374 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474906382 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1474906439 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad 5 :>>#;1-:48*+01p*01g48*-#;1#+-#1:#<_$.@ < 1474906441 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-befr < 1474906443 0 :evilrbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you all think? < 1474906446 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1474906448 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-padclr < 1474906451 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad 5 :>>#;1-:48*+01p*01g48*-#;1#+-#1:#<_$.@ < 1474906454 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-befr < 1474906456 0 :evilrbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :120 < 1474906506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks mathy < 1474906526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> product[1..5] < 1474906528 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 120 < 1474906605 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474906722 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb again < 1474906735 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice internet. try a wired connection and something thats not satelite < 1474906818 0 :PocketKiller!PocketKill@codebottle.io/user/pocketkiller JOIN :#esoteric < 1474906835 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PocketKiller, what bring you here? < 1474906843 0 :PocketKiller!PocketKill@codebottle.io/user/pocketkiller PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. < 1474906850 0 :PocketKiller!PocketKill@codebottle.io/user/pocketkiller PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just join and see any channel I find... < 1474906860 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474906874 0 :PocketKiller!PocketKill@codebottle.io/user/pocketkiller PART #esoteric :">:D" < 1474907133 0 :Time-Wrap!?@? NICK :wiggle < 1474907161 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474907166 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474907262 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474907373 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1474907381 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello evilmoon < 1474907419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: I think my pockets survived < 1474907442 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the other random evil people :P < 1474907522 0 :nycs!~nycs@ppp-223-24-104-35.revip6.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474907535 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474907650 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474907770 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mount < 1474907771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host < 1474907798 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ping -c 3 google.com < 1474907799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474907804 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which ping < 1474907804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/ping < 1474907809 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin < 1474907810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash \ bunzip2 \ bzcat \ bzcmp \ bzdiff \ bzegrep \ bzexe \ bzfgrep \ bzgrep \ bzip2 \ bzip2recover \ bzless \ bzmore \ cat \ chgrp \ chmod \ chown \ cp \ cpio \ dash \ date \ dd \ df \ dir \ dmesg \ dnsdomainname \ domainname \ echo \ ed \ egrep \ false \ fgrep \ findmnt \ fuser \ grep \ gunzip \ gzexe \ gzip \ hostname \ ip \ kill \ kmod \ less \ < 1474907813 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /bin/ping < 1474907814 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ping [-LRUbdfnqrvVaAD] [-c count] [-i interval] [-w deadline] \ [-p pattern] [-s packetsize] [-t ttl] [-I interface] \ [-M pmtudisc-hint] [-m mark] [-S sndbuf] \ [-T tstamp-options] [-Q tos] [hop1 ...] destination < 1474907818 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /bin/ping -c 3 google.com < 1474907818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping: unknown host google.com < 1474907869 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /dev < 1474907870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agpgart \ audio \ audio1 \ audio2 \ audio3 \ audioctl \ console \ core \ dsp \ dsp1 \ dsp2 \ dsp3 \ fd \ full \ kmem \ loop0 \ loop1 \ loop2 \ loop3 \ loop4 \ loop5 \ loop6 \ loop7 \ mem \ midi0 \ midi00 \ midi01 \ midi02 \ midi03 \ midi1 \ midi2 \ midi3 \ mixer \ mixer1 \ mixer2 \ mixer3 \ mpu401data \ mpu401stat \ null \ port \ ptmx \ pts \ ram \ < 1474908465 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474908732 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilfl35: the sandbox has not interwebz < 1474908743 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i see < 1474908803 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it seems that in my absence, #esoteric became the "try to hack hackbot" channel. I fear I've done terrible things. < 1474908889 0 :`^_^!~nycs@180.183.14.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474909014 0 :nycs!~nycs@ppp-223-24-104-35.revip6.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474909253 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: nope, it's pretty much i wonder what this this does < 1474909265 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/this this/this < 1474909272 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ < 1474909345 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: we found a couple of ways to permanently damage it, I think, even though we didn't find ways to escape the sandbox < 1474909348 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly via exploiting bugs in hg < 1474909375 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo making a change for the purpose of reverting it >> temp < 1474909377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474909381 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1474909381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1474909401 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we're stuck with that "cannot remove" forever, or until someone figures out a way to fix it < 1474909546 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474909858 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: evilrbot, evilator, evilvoid, and wiggle are new, wiggle is the one who borked the bot most recently < 1474909872 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh evil3bot is a bot, i ment evilfl35 < 1474909907 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474909938 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-nick otherbot < 1474909938 0 :evilrbot!?@? NICK :otherbot < 1474909956 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-nick evilrbot < 1474909956 0 :otherbot!?@? NICK :evilrbot < 1474909958 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1474909966 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-nick otherbot < 1474909966 0 :evilrbot!?@? NICK :otherbot < 1474909973 0 :evilmoon!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474909996 0 :evilfl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1474910309 0 :evilfl35!?@? NICK :jeffl35 < 1474910354 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1474910355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "$@" | awk '{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1474910417 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bot, but it's under the same nick as me < 1474910429 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has no help command. < 1474910461 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods /oren/ for fun
< 1474910491 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bin/awk < 1474910493 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474910501 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bin/culprits < 1474910503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ mkx bin/culprits//hoag "$@" | awk \'{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}\' | sed "s/.$/\\x0F&/" | xargs \ ` mv bin/culprits bin/culprits2; mv bin/innocent bin/culprits \ ` mv bin/culprits2 bin/culprits \ revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ ` (echo \'#!/bin/sh\'; echo \'echo Nice try.\') > bin/man && chmod a+x bin/man \ ` (echo \'#!/bin/sh\'; echo \'Nice try.\') > bin/man && chmod a+x bin/man < 1474910709 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which hoa < 1474910710 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which hoag < 1474910711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474910711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/hoag < 1474910714 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /hackenv/bin/hoag < 1474910715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1474910746 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474910770 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474910789 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` gcc < 1474910790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1474910793 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474910840 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval bot2 = require('child_process').spawn('node',['app.js']); < 1474910940 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/culprits < 1474910941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "$@" | awk '{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1474910998 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, int-e / fizzie, how would i go about printing only the commands that were preformed on a file? < 1474911021 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval bot2 < 1474911029 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval bot2 = require('child_process').spawn('node',['app.js']); < 1474911029 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: bot2 is not defined] < 1474911034 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval var bot2 = require('child_process').spawn('node',['app.js']); < 1474911035 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474911039 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval bot2 < 1474911039 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: bot2 is not defined] < 1474911046 0 :otherbot_!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474911050 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474911051 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474911055 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval process.exit() < 1474911056 0 :otherbot_!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474911061 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they have different cmdchars < 1474911062 0 :otherbot_!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474911065 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... < 1474911066 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :try modifying the global object to make a variable perm < 1474911071 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval bot2 < 1474911072 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: bot2 is not defined] < 1474911074 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eval process.exit() < 1474911074 0 :otherbot_!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474911075 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval global.bot2 < 1474911075 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474911081 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval bot.bot2 < 1474911081 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined < 1474911196 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez, why do people always spam the channel with bot crap < 1474911237 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474911248 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: if your going to experiment, take it to your channel < 1474911321 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval bot.bot2 = require('child_process').spawn('node',['app.js']); < 1474911323 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChildProcess { < 1474911324 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : domain: null, < 1474911324 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _events: {}, < 1474911325 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _eventsCount: 0, < 1474911325 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-flushq < 1474911326 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _maxListeners: undefined, < 1474911327 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _closesNeeded: 3, < 1474911327 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _closesGot: 0, < 1474911328 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : connected: false, < 1474911329 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : signalCode: null, < 1474911329 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oflushq < 1474911329 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : exitCode: null, < 1474911330 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : killed: false, < 1474911331 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : spawnfile: 'node', < 1474911332 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _handle: Process { owner: [Circular], onexit: [Function], pid: 14383 }, < 1474911332 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flushq < 1474911332 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send queue flushed < 1474911337 0 :otherbot_!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474911343 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-nick anotherbot < 1474911343 0 :otherbot_!?@? NICK :anotherbot < 1474911345 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1474911390 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1474911391 0 :`^_^!~nycs@180.183.14.22 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474911396 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl take it somewhere else < 1474911422 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :flushq < 1474911429 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Caught SIGINT < 1474911430 0 :anotherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Client Quit < 1474911448 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@35.45.148.146.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474911458 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@35.45.148.146.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Changing host < 1474911458 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474911488 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: what < 1474911563 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is not for enormous bit configure testing < 1474911614 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1474911616 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> bit configure < 1474911622 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh ok < 1474911623 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: Variable not in scope: configure :: Int < 1474911629 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-part #esoteric < 1474911629 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PART #esoteric : < 1474911635 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474911652 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: it can stay, but it can be used excessivly in here < 1474911674 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, if everybody's going to complain, then it can't stay < 1474911690 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474911696 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1474911698 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to fix the part comand < 1474911717 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you dont. lets talk in the other channel for a moment < 1474911744 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no seriously, when given without arguments it should not part a channel named undefined) < 1474911757 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474911759 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474911813 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1474911813 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1474911815 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-part < 1474911815 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PART #esoteric : < 1474911817 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1474911818 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1474911821 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... reasons... < 1474911844 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474912578 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1474912643 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a data structure that can be indexed by integers < 1474912663 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not all the elements must be set < 1474912669 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there can be holes < 1474912678 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474912696 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :first idea is to use a hash table, but i want to be able to iterate over the keys in order < 1474912718 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i use something like a rb tree i get log n access time < 1474912732 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474912781 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my idea is to use a hash table to store the actual data, so retrieving them takes constant time, but also store the keys in a tree < 1474912794 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474912803 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so inserting a new value takes logarithmic time < 1474912812 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for removing < 1474912831 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but accessing elements that already in the structure is still constant time < 1474912844 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this stupid? < 1474912865 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474912936 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that are* already in the structure.. < 1474912974 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use a fibonacci heap instead of a tree < 1474912988 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look it up real quick < 1474913171 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure how expensive copying is, though < 1474913716 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when I try to compile a program I want to use, and discover a compiler error that could easily have been fixed. < 1474913759 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much better when there's a compiler error that can't be easily fixed < 1474913765 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, the newest version of tmux won't compile because they are trying to use the va_args macros without #include < 1474913785 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean seriously why? < 1474913813 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even i at least compile before shipping < 1474913853 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they assume that stdio.h includes stdarg.h? < 1474914068 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1474914098 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474914337 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1474914337 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474914544 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474914561 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back < 1474914598 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after some finagling with the stupid tmux code, it compiled and I'm now using tmux 2.2 < 1474914613 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lost your \s < 1474914624 0 :oren!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1474914654 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474914675 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1474914682 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:8ddf:9b35:618e:ea59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474914720 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474914731 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid tmux < 1474914747 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm getting segfaults < 1474914754 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1474914786 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait or maybe it's irssi that is segfaulting < 1474914816 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1474914818 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1474914915 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1474914915 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ pong < 1474914920 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1474914973 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can I go yell at the tmux devs < 1474914996 0 :oren!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1474915006 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline QUIT :Killed (dax (17:33 < kline> opal, im immortal)) < 1474915037 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :GoldenIvy_ < 1474915076 0 :GoldenIvy_!?@? NICK :khor____ < 1474915092 0 :khor____!?@? NICK :Lorskel_ < 1474915104 0 :Lorskel_!?@? NICK :khoR______ < 1474915119 0 :khoR______!?@? NICK :Lorskel_ < 1474915138 0 :Lorskel_!?@? NICK :khoR________ < 1474915159 0 :khoR________!?@? NICK :GoldenIvy < 1474915210 0 :GoldenIvy!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474915364 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1474915378 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474915392 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1474915412 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474915458 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474915465 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474915888 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474915914 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :either something is wrong with ><>'s author's implentation, or the quine on its esolang page doesnt work < 1474915928 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad "r00gol?!;40. < 1474915931 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-><>r < 1474915931 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :"r00gol ?!;40 . < 1474915946 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: or you implemented the thing wrong < 1474915949 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-part needs fixing < 1474915949 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PART #esoteric :"needs,fixing" < 1474915953 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474915955 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to fix tat < 1474915974 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1474915978 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad "r00gol?!;40. < 1474915980 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-><>r < 1474915991 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474916182 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄calc 2 3 + p < 1474916182 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ nonextant cmd. < 1474916219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474916261 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope error with my bot. < 1474916272 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*jeffl35's < 1474916276 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e*our < 1474916291 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1474916293 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474916295 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄efef < 1474916295 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ nonextant cmd. < 1474916296 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄lol < 1474916296 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ nonextant cmd. < 1474916297 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1474916298 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ pong < 1474916299 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄help < 1474916300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ nonextant cmd. < 1474916300 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄list < 1474916301 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ nonextant cmd. < 1474916342 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 2 + p < 1474916342 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 3 < 1474916379 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 + 2 = p < 1474916380 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 < 1474916386 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 + 2 = p; p = 4 < 1474916387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 0 < 1474916391 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 1 + 2 = p; p = 4; p < 1474916391 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 0 4 < 1474916396 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it use? < 1474916407 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpn < 1474916410 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse polish notation < 1474916427 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean the calculator, what software? < 1474916440 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I wrote a crappy thing in C < 1474916445 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohlol < 1474916468 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write an rpn is like the most simple thing ever < 1474916481 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in haskell it's like 2 lines and one line per operator < 1474916491 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ocal 5 7 / p < 1474916491 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ 0 < 1474916500 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it's only integer < 1474916571 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a more useful thing. the only useful thing it has right now is the Kerbal Space Program delta V calculator < 1474916595 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 3 180 terrier < 1474916595 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ Δv = 3711.4362202711 < 1474916615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 3 180 nuke < 1474916615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ Δv = 2799.18496003117 < 1474916673 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38? < 1474916692 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he's here right now < 1474916897 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1474917093 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-help < 1474917101 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474917124 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried zzo38's sandboxing tip, lets see if you all can break it. doot see -js < 1474917393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, apparently Deez Nutz finally died < 1474917394 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank god < 1474917539 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:28da:c259:8756:89f4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474917561 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: +1 < 1474917567 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474917610 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who? < 1474917698 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474917778 0 :evilator!?@? NICK :Bowserinator < 1474918817 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tylbszqbcdxolwec QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474918890 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474918895 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1474918902 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi wob_jonas < 1474919028 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474919102 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: [on ₯] "that character is an interesting one because it never actually appeared on the greek drachma notes" => Interesting only if you're British. The euro sign € doesn't appear on the euro coins or notes, and the dollar sign doesn't appear on US dollar banknotes either. I think symbols not appearing on banknotes is the default. < 1474919345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474919373 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I haven't been able to find any usage of the symbol at all by greeks < 1474919395 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the symbol they use is capital delta, lowercase rho < 1474919406 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*used < 1474919425 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how much have you been in Greece before the euro was introduced there? < 1474919477 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried zzo38's sandboxing tip, lets see if you all can break it. doot see -js < 1474919485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The $ sign does appear on the US $100,000 bill. < 1474919485 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js x = 1+1 < 1474919485 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ReferenceError: x is not defined' < 1474919502 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: .... ok < 1474919664 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: AFAIK ₧ is also a "less conceiving" currency mark, its exact glyph is not well specified AFAIK < 1474919688 0 :lifthras1ir!?@? NICK :lifthrasiir < 1474919995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474920237 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you know that Agner Fog's calling conventions manual http://www.agner.org/optimize/#manual_call_conv describes most of the details of the schemes used by popular C++ compilers, right? < 1474920334 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in theory that allows you to call C++ functions, but it doesn't allow you to access a lot of structures defined by the C++ standard library, because the ABI for that is decided not by the mangling, but by the struct declarations, inline function definitions, and other declarations and macro definitions in the headers, and Agner's manual does < 1474920334 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n't describe that because it would be almost impossible. < 1474920339 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: hes not online < 1474920352 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I'll @message then < 1474920384 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 You know that Agner Fog's calling conventions manual http://www.agner.org/optimize/#manual_call_conv describes most of the details of the schemes used by popular C++ compilers, right? In theory that allows you to call C++ functions, but \ < 1474920384 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474920402 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 it doesn't allow you to access a lot of structures defined by the C++ standard library, because the ABI for that is decided not by the mangling, but by the struct declarations, inline function definitions, and other declarations and macro definitions in the headers, and Agner's manual doesn't describe that because it would be almost imp < 1474920402 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474920403 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ossible. < 1474920507 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: wait, how is zzo38 not online? He's usually joined to this channel, even when he's not actually listening. < 1474920514 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange < 1474920710 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Gregor is alive < 1474920809 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, apparently the UK has 10 shilling notes until 1970, which might explain why the pound notes have a pound sign printed: it makes it easier to distinguish 10 shilling notes from 10 pound notes at a glance even if you're unfamiliar with the particular notes. < 1474920957 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:28da:c259:8756:89f4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474921342 0 :hydraz!?@? NICK :hydPaz < 1474921361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474921884 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I had a fix for it all thought out, but forgot about the details already. It had something to do with adjusting the find. < 1474921885 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474921915 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Although I'm pretty sure a working fix would be to use hg revert --no-backup, and omit the find -name '*.orig' -exec rm altogether. < 1474921915 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474921931 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is this about the bug in `revert of Hackego? < 1474921935 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes. < 1474921943 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell moonythedwarf test < 1474921944 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474921947 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell jeffl35 test < 1474921947 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1474921950 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474921963 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Jeffl35 test < 1474921963 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1474921970 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell jeffl35 test < 1474921970 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474922001 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: you can also try to use memoserv, which is a service tied to nickserv and lets you send memos to nickserv accounts < 1474922018 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: but what does @tell do? < 1474922023 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hel < 1474922023 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1474922032 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1474922032 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1474922032 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1474922032 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1474922036 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1474922036 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search < 1474922036 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1474922054 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list irc < 1474922054 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc has no visible commands < 1474922059 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list tell < 1474922059 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages-loud messages? clear-messages auto-reply auto-reply? clear-auto-reply < 1474922066 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1474922066 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1474922071 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1474922071 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1474922339 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474922370 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474923184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474923366 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: The euro symbol *is* on some of the notes; 5, 10 and 20, in the reflectiony strip at the end. < 1474923392 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the hologram-like strips? hmm, let me check that < 1474923394 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said it's not on the coins < 1474923400 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that is true < 1474923409 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, it is on the notes < 1474923413 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: "The euro sign € doesn't appear on the euro coins or notes --" < 1474923413 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474923490 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait, the euro symbol is indeed on the 10 euro note, not on the hologram strip, but both printed on the obverse and in the transparent shiny strip (not the hologram) in the obverse < 1474923503 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wrong then < 1474923544 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474923545 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's description of the security features also says: "Security Thread: When the note is held against the light, the security thread appears as a dark line. The Euro symbol (€) and the value of the banknote can be seen in tiny white lettering in the thread." < 1474923549 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doesn't really count. < 1474923560 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I hadn't looked much at the euro banknotes < 1474923569 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the new UK £5 note the first time the other day. < 1474923571 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it does sort of count, though obviously that's less prominent < 1474923573 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got a hole in it. < 1474923585 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how big hole? < 1474923586 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not a real hole. But a transparent thing. < 1474923593 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474923595 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1474923604 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, lots of banknotes have those < 1474923642 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, not a lot < 1474923658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's possible only on banknotes printed on non-paper plastic material < 1474923674 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/06/02/99648581_five-pound-banknote-NEWS-large_trans++tLiXk9I2QPXgI4Uxb3W8EZ4gz3qz54_bsJIilxgiIC0.jpg -- that "framed" thing above the word "Five" was transparent-ish, I think. < 1474923699 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, the new ones are some sort of polymer thing. < 1474923736 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1474923765 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474923832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :banknotes on plastic are more resistant to wear and tear, but I suspect it might be more difficult to add a good set of security features on them < 1474924081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49792&oldid=49791 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+74) 10 < 1474924126 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49793&oldid=49792 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+5) 10 < 1474924221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49794&oldid=49793 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-3) 10 < 1474924252 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't live there, so I only ever see GBP as an electronic currency online, not the actual banknotes. (The same is true for CAD and AUD.) < 1474924363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49795&oldid=49794 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+0) 10 < 1474924371 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, and the euro symbol is also on the hologram strip on the front of the 10 euro notes, in addition to the ones on the obverse I already mentioned. It's just a bit hard to see there. < 1474924376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GBX is a scowrrency < 1474924453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait < 1474924453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1474924553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474924624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49796&oldid=49795 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-62) 10 < 1474924644 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out, that on the older versions of the euro notes, printed before 2013..2015, the euro symbol is much less prominent, in particular it doesn't appear as a large white symbol printed on the top left corner on the back side. < 1474924662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is definitely part of why I assumed the euro symbol didn't appear on the euro banknotes. < 1474924666 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ^ < 1474924703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49797&oldid=49796 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-3) 10 < 1474924736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49798&oldid=49797 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-2) 10 < 1474924762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been to greece much. My knowledge is based on searches on the internet for the google translated word for "reciept" drachma, etc < 1474924763 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the banknotes I've seen are from the older version. < 1474924783 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was there as a tiny tot < 1474924893 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The euro symbol still appears on the hologram strip and on the transparent shiny strip on the old versions though. < 1474924927 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on greek euros they spell it EYPO < 1474925059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49799&oldid=49798 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+19) 10 < 1474925076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They spell it both EURO and ΕΥΡΩ on all of them. < 1474925134 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474925156 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ΕΥΡΟ < 1474925185 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess makes it a scow that they haven't added ЕУРО now that people like Bulgaria have joined the club. < 1474925196 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's an omega, not an omicron? < 1474925208 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an omega < 1474925222 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EYPW < 1474925234 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: bulgaria? bulgaria doesn't use the euro yet < 1474925257 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they *do* have ЕВРО (I guess that's how it goes there) on the new series. < 1474925260 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then. < 1474925264 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evro? < 1474925288 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is europe evropa? < 1474925288 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's for what language? < 1474925336 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's bulgarian < 1474925423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like in bulgarian "european union" is "evropeyski suyuz" < 1474925503 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suyuz is like in russian but with a ъ instead of a о < 1474925565 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bulgraian is included because it's a minority language in a bunch of southeastern european countries < 1474925600 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in which country is it a minority language where the euro is also used? < 1474925633 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, perhaps in greece < 1474925641 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungary and Greece at least < 1474925641 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess they've included it purely because of the EU membership, not because of participation in the eurozone. < 1474925679 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the Czech Republic in the Eurozone yet? < 1474925680 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungary has Bulgarian as a minority language? I don't think it's well-spread here, and besides, we don't use the euro anyway < 1474925720 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, czech republic has its own currency (currently) < 1474925732 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I gues it must just be greece then < 1474925761 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a166:2f3:c0cd:ea43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474925780 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: http://www.new-euro-banknotes.eu/Euro-Banknotes/Europa-Series-Design "the name of the currency, euro, not only in the Latin (EURO) and Greek (EYPΩ) alphabets but also in the Cyrillic (EBPO) alphabet, as a result of Bulgaria joining the EU" < 1474925812 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a166:2f3:c0cd:ea43 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474925832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it might be more because of serbian or macedonian as a minority language < 1474925908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or because they're planning in advance for more countries joining the eurozone < 1474925945 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Changing host < 1474925945 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1474925947 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The notes have also got the initials of the European Central Bank in approximately all official languages of EU member states, even those not part of the 'zone. < 1474925957 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the Hungarian "EKB". < 1474925989 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a countries-and-languages list behind that link as well.) < 1474926004 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the RMB has apparently got on it Chinese, mandarin pinyin, Mongolian, Tibetan, Uyghur (in Arabic script), and Zhuang. < 1474926005 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: EKB is also only on the newer versions of the notes < 1474926025 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you joined later. < 1474926064 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old version has what looks like "BCE ECB EZB EKT EKP", where presumably ECB and BCE are English and French, who always reverse their acronyms < 1474926095 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :EKP is there just for Finnish and Estonian. < 1474926123 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newer one has "BCE ECB E EZB EKP EKT EKB BE EBC" < 1474926189 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess EZB is german, and the one with c with dot above is probably slovakian. < 1474926215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zentral? weird < 1474926226 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a guess < 1474926229 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know < 1474926277 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says Europa:ische Zentralbank < 1474926318 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the germans like to squeeze words together even if they would happily stand on their own < 1474926342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, and zentral is definitely a real german word < 1474926349 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that sounds pretty plausible < 1474926484 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474927724 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg54xlqyngglc5f.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474928602 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474928676 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1474928690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474928803 0 :evilmoon!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb oerjan < 1474928834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty evilmoon < 1474928854 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1474928859 0 :evilmoon!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474928878 0 :ubuntu!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474928890 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474928898 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1474928902 0 :ubuntu!?@? NICK :Guest21462 < 1474928925 0 :Guest21462!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1474928995 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have a reversable 2d language with 3 instructions: / (mirror 1) \ (mirror 2) and < (split/join), how could i combine \ and / ? < 1474929036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you do that, it's nicely symmetric. also have you looked at BackFlip < 1474929081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't think anyone ever found a good way of programming it.
< 1474929128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to have chosen similar command characters, at least. < 1474929153 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay i have less instructions :P i came up with it during school, just chose some symbols that look like my diagrams < 1474929156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but split/join doesn't sound like what < does in backflip. < 1474929158 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice. wasn't there also some 2d fungeoid language with only two different characters, space and a tricky one? < 1474929173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Jolverine? < 1474929181 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's Black < 1474929183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may be more than one. < 1474929207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Jolverine is also reversible) < 1474929217 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what i looked at for insperation was the billard ball machine (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Billiard_ball_machine) page < 1474929267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474929291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: funny way of getting inspired, the /\< chars there seem to be just for demonstration... < 1474929292 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never saw the backflip page < 1474929305 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i wanted to try something similar < 1474929320 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that a look at it again, i could possibly only use two instructions and diagonal only moving balls < 1474929321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, not actually part of the language < 1474929327 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that Black is self-modifying (modifies the contents of its instruction cells during execution) in an essential way < 1474929346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was Black reversible too... < 1474929391 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the topic right now is reversable languages < 1474929403 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474929504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure it was the topic, i only remembered jolverine was reversible after mentioning it. < 1474929506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, which is that 2d fungeoid that has space and the four arrows as the only commands, and tiling a quarter plane with instructions? < 1474929548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1474929602 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Nopfunge < 1474929682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: also, Wierd may fit your question too < 1474929693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, not the last one < 1474929697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but above < 1474929717 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: say i wanted to make a one directional gate in my theoretical language < 1474929727 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\ < 1474929730 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :<< < 1474929733 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/ < 1474929758 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would, if the 'ball' came from the left, send it back again < 1474929761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, Nopfunge may have been added after i gave up following the wiki. < 1474929768 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, actually, cut that last < in the middle line < 1474929852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: note that if your language is reversible and commands don't change state, then you can only have one input path going to each output path < 1474929855 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be easy to define a 2d language that's equivalent to Nopfunge and uses only two characters (instead of five), but what the machine does depends not only on the character under the pointer, but also on the some characters on adjacent cells. < 1474929868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vice versa. < 1474929877 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1474929885 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, in fact you could make it even without that. < 1474929889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord quack doctor oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474929890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Solak 5* 10New user account < 1474929897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did HackEgo turn slow again < 1474929902 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me think. < 1474929915 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, that wouldn't work. < 1474929968 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is thinking about how to make a turing complete single instruction esolang
< 1474930011 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be easy if the pointer always had a speed of two, and the command rotated it right then displaced it by one tile forward in the new direction, so essentially you have the plane colored to four different colors, each color of square used exactly in one of the four compass directions. < 1474930068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/cambrian/-recombination/ < 1474930075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord quack doctor oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Pre-recombination Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474930351 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\< < 1474930353 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\< < 1474930358 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\ < 1474930361 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\< < 1474930377 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fires a 'billard ball' gun at oerjan
< 1474930398 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/antsylabs/fidget-cube-a-vinyl-desk-toy i kinda want this < 1474930563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls temp < 1474930566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp < 1474930569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horrifying operation: Together with P[n](a, b) (hyperoperations), R[n](a, i) (hyperoperation roots), and P[n](b, x) (hyperoperation logarithms), Pw[c](a, b), Rw[c](a, b), and Lw[c](a, b) < 1474930576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat temp < 1474930577 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making a change for the purpose of reverting it < 1474930581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1474930584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag temp < 1474930591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-26 ` echo making a change for the purpose of reverting it >> temp < 1474930598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pw[c](a, b) is hyperwhich; it is equal to n s.t. P[n](a, b) = c < 1474930612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ais523 wanted to demonstrate one of the `revert bugs but also hit the other one. < 1474930614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rw and Lw are similar, but with R and L instead of P, respectively < 1474930615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm temp < 1474930617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474930631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo demonstrating bugs > tmp/temp < 1474930634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474930638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/temp . < 1474930642 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/temp': No such file or directory < 1474930645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat temp tmp/temp < 1474930646 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: temp tmp/temp: No such file or directory < 1474930650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1474930654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat temp tmp/temp < 1474930655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: temp: No such file or directory \ cat: tmp/temp: No such file or directory < 1474930718 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like that. < 1474930724 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say it's a feature. < 1474930807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the `` mv tmp/... thing, you mean? because the other things were bugs < 1474930809 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474930816 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474930976 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474931023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you out of quack mode < 1474931033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474931061 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474931077 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœøirjan. < 1474931080 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1474931080 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 9h 39m 4s ago: . o O ( where *is* Roujo now? ) <-- have you checked the other channel, he's right there hth < 1474931082 0 :evilvoid!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1474931094 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. yes, indeed. < 1474931141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :byolihi < 1474931212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dubious < 1474931321 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iovoid: hiovelloid. < 1474931338 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474931448 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were evilvoid. were you somebody else before that? < 1474931483 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474931515 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am iovoid most of the time < 1474931574 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 11 more nicks < 1474931606 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so I haven't `relcomed you yet! :D < 1474931610 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome iovoid < 1474931613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02iovoid: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1474931649 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no language called nopfuck yet? great! maybe brainfuck variants aren't as well-spread as I thought < 1474931758 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a self-brainfuck-derivative out there, akin to how d(e^x)/dx = e^x? < 1474931780 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't really understand what you mean by that < 1474931787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(e^x) = e^x dx < 1474931789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1474931796 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but < 1474931803 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would a self-brainfuck-derivative mean? < 1474931807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of funny how that has the chain rule built in. < 1474931813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1474931823 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must be the reason the dy/dx notation looks like divison. < 1474931826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :division < 1474931830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the chain rule. < 1474931836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you see what I mean? < 1474931860 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a derivative that is equal to its own brainfuck? a brainfuck that is equal to its own derivative? something that is equal to the brainfuck of its own derivative? something that brainfucks its derivative? < 1474931874 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx *is* division. don't y'all dare tell me otherwise. < 1474931878 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1474932073 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474932075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cookbook//Random food recipes at https://gist.github.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc < 1474932083 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I added that entry < 1474932109 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474932111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minsky//to Minsky on : /mɪnskiː/ To act as a Minsky machine on; of a program or programming language, to encode its entire state into the object as a single integer. < 1474932117 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qsiilgfzactyvwba JOIN :#esoteric < 1474932127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits minsky < 1474932134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse oerjan < 1474932142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg minsky < 1474932148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-01-04 ` mv wisdom/minsk{i,y}; sed -i \'s/minski/Minsky/g\' wisdom/mins* < 1474932156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1474932176 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does the oerjan entry say "hungarian" and "oerlord"? < 1474932198 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan or shachaf: ^ < 1474932208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1474932221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg oerjan | grep -i hungarian < 1474932226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-16 slwd oerjan//s#overlord kommisjon\xc3\xa6r#hungarian oerlord# < 1474932235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why. < 1474932250 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oerjan ascended to hungoerjanhood hth < 1474932254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oerlord" is because he's an overlord, but also an oerjan < 1474932264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "o'er" is a common contraction of "over" < 1474932264 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1474932372 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1474932375 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474932410 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474932412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambek's lemma//Lambek's Lemma, invented by Joachim "Taneb" Lambek, states that initial algebras have inverses. < 1474933119 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474933188 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474933595 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474933747 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474933861 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474933996 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: AGENDA CHICKEN < 1474934248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474934636 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474934826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474935730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474936072 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474940855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* draws a minim with a tail < 1474940861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW < 1474940862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :‽ < 1474941118 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1474941253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Somewhere else < 1474941266 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474941508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fun: pi-4 time < 1474941862 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474941909 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474941912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga//no. < 1474942806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49800&oldid=49756 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+322) 10 < 1474942820 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474942845 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1474943058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49801&oldid=49800 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+0) 10 < 1474943171 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HISTORICAL CHICKEN < 1474943507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, does it make sense to talk about "bisynthetic" or "trisynthetic" languages? A special case of polysynthetic where n=3 < 1474943512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really sure what n is though) < 1474943743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If contract(["I", "Would", "Have"]) is "I'd-a" (it varies), is its negation "I'dn-a"? < 1474943794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :princess ida < 1474943829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe it should be "I'm~a" so we have a justification to have a tilde on American keyboards) < 1474943853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For "I'm-a", not "I'd-a") < 1474943878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'mn-a -> "I am not going to" < 1474943943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474943944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo//Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting. < 1474943949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474943950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itay//Itay is Christmas in Italy. < 1474943963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits itay < 1474943964 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse oerjan < 1474943976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this evilipse person is scow < 1474943988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :messing up our cluprits < 1474944184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474945689 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474946987 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474947003 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474948025 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ajrdwujrwcxajhho QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474948230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474948400 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fish < 1474948401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come and dance and love the fish! Mister Disco summoned it. < 1474949741 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've watched a couple of "Moskau" misheard lyrics videos. < 1474949770 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out some of the misheard lyrics are actually accurate translations! < 1474949780 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider, for example, "Come and dance and love the fish". < 1474949807 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the German lyric is "Komm wir tanzen auf dem Tisch", which is translated as "Come and dance on a table". < 1474949822 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it's no coincidence that the German words for "come" and "dance" sound similar to the English words. < 1474949938 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1474950011 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474950792 0 :mrnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 QUIT :Quit: zonkzonk < 1474950799 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474951992 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474952370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing with pyaudio < 1474952387 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474952398 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474952400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got stereo working; I'm playing sinewave middle c in one ear and cosinewave middle c in the other < 1474952407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: It's amazing < 1474952411 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1474952419 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474952454 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474952511 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-poke hppavilion[1] < 1474952511 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes hppavilion[1]
< 1474952727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "cosinewave" u do realize sine and cosine are the same just shifted by a quarter wavelength right? < 1474952746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes < 1474952763 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But stereo sine-cosine sounded distinctly different from stereo sine-sine < 1474952777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, for that matter, from stereo cosine-cosine) < 1474952786 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I consider them to be different for stereo purposes < 1474952804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about sound but presumably stereo cosine-cosine at least sounds the same as stereo sine-sine < 1474952942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, it does < 1474952945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT < 1474952952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why it was an afterthought < 1474953246 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just "stereo in-phase sounds different from stereo out-of-phase"? < 1474953273 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as it should, as it's one way to create a surround sound effect) < 1474953319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are other ways? < 1474953572 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can also use fade in fade out < 1474953603 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/letoams/status/779490839584186368 m( < 1474953697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: AAAAAAA < 1474953762 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA < 1474953766 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1474953841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good trick < 1474953943 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes off to register www.com
< 1474953970 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn beaten < 1474953981 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure most of the www.* domains are taken < 1474953982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: Of COURSE you're beaten < 1474953991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: www.ninja < 1474954004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell.666 < 1474954009 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hell.666 < 1474954010 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.space? < 1474954014 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wow < 1474954019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: www.spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace < 1474954100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Try the mars-wide web (mww) < 1474954126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't 'www' just be 'sextuple u' < 1474954239 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuu.horse < 1474954285 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uu.uu.uu.foo.bar might be nice to confuse people on your domain < 1474954314 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's dpuble-u, double-u, double-u, fpo, bar" < 1474954326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"triple-u triple-u" sounds pretty good. < 1474954336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Why 'dpuble"? < 1474954337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :triple-u triple-u dot esolangs dot org < 1474954343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it wass a mistake < 1474954526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 'double-u dot double-u dot double-u dot foo dot bar' < 1474954620 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474954666 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-19-171.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474955229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuclear Thumb War < 1474955866 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-19-171.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474955957 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474957275 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474957283 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1474957301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? u < 1474957302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u monad? < 1474957366 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've looked at if C++ compilers can automatically classify variables as either pointer/array indexes, and all other variables < 1474957370 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's doable < 1474957390 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in SSA form you can just check if the results end up in load address computations and backtrack < 1474957397 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus pointers have specific types ofc < 1474957525 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could do a cpu where pointers, indexes, and other integer values live on separate register files and target it with ordinary compilers < 1474957700 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474958043 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474958671 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474959005 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would let you run addressing operations way beforehand, which is one of the major advantages more complex cpus have < 1474959061 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1474959083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474959362 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nrcffoshcpwvyrly JOIN :#esoteric < 1474959521 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thelettervsixtim.es < 1474960402 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474961315 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1474962534 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474963637 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474963737 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere else somebody asked on how you can produce a single space in a posix shell without any whitespace in your commands < 1474963860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in the output of echo -n ' '? < 1474963888 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1474963894 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without all that whitespace < 1474963896 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without the 3 spaces you used < 1474963905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the output of echo ' ' good enough? < 1474963912 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 2 spaces < 1474963921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1474963929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm asking for a problem specification, not suggesting a solution. < 1474963931 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo ' ' < 1474963935 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ ^ < 1474963941 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess, i am not sure < 1474963948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you using the least charitable interpretation of what I'm saying on purpose? < 1474963964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a newline is OK, you can cat<<<$'\x20' < 1474963967 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-171-96-191-64.revip8.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474963979 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not posix < 1474963987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, POSIX. < 1474964002 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf '\40' < 1474964007 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, seems like newlines also are unwanted < 1474964048 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i was told bash is okay, but \ and ' are not < 1474964053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this exploiting some program that executes arbitrary shell commands without spaces? < 1474964060 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basicall, yeah < 1474964095 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what he wants to do eith that, but i thought it's some nice puzzle < 1474964271 0 :nycs!~nycs@180.183.14.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474964376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a pretty incomplete puzzle description. < 1474964380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to give the real problem. < 1474964392 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-171-96-191-64.revip8.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474964536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a bunch of white t-shirts that have a font name printed on them in that font < 1474964537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every day < 1474964552 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, printed in _another_ font < 1474964578 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, helvetica printed in times new roman < 1474964611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, that's not geeky enough < 1474964620 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes it is < 1474964620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I want it to be distinguishable < 1474964627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, it has to be correct < 1474964635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I should probably include neoletters...) < 1474964650 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy who rapes english tells me tshirts need to be correct? < 1474964687 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of the wrong font thing is that you immediately can befriend anybody who corrects you < 1474964700 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Oh yeah... < 1474964709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll have a bonus shirt that is intentionally wrong? < 1474964778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should the back have a table on it? < 1474965226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All fonts should support double-italics... < 1474967259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49802&oldid=49799 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+1502) 10 < 1474967449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474967507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49803&oldid=49802 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+65) 10 < 1474967580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49804&oldid=49803 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+2) 10/* goal */ < 1474967870 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a bunch of dashboard links that contain the word "dash" in them, which are p. tricky to mention out loud. < 1474967873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. "foo-dash-bar" -- if you say "foo dash bar", people assume "foo-bar", but "foo dash dash dash bar" is p. ridiculous as well. < 1474967892 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo hyphen dash minus bar < 1474968281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49805&oldid=49593 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+90) 10 < 1474968894 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49806&oldid=49804 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-28) 10 < 1474969536 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: normally you use accents to distinguish them, don't you? < 1474969554 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo-dash-(accented)-dash-(unaccented)-dash < 1474969590 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-bar* < 1474969622 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of relative pitch (1--5), sth like 3-2-5-1-4 < 1474969801 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still a little confusing. Because dash is the default separator and it's a common link, people just use "foo dash" (not "foo dash dash") for foo-dash, so the natural extension would be "foo dash bar" for foo-dash-bar, and indeed that even works most of the time, except when bar happens to be such that foo-bar is also plausible. < 1474972735 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474972854 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474973228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474973247 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1474973601 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: echo${IFS}""${IFS}"" < 1474973605 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: and it's a nice puzzle < 1474973631 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^ < 1474973636 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1474973799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, separating with an unquoted whitespace variable. < 1474973895 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but the hard part was getting such a variable. I tried $(echo;echo) first but that doesn't work, the backtick strips ALL the newlines, not only the last one < 1474974113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now $ or { is " is going to be banned. < 1474974178 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this works but I think it isn't POSIX shell: s[0]=;s[1]=;echo${s[*]}"${s[*]}" < 1474974223 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this I think also isn't POSIX shell: t=$'\x20';echo${t}hello < 1474974229 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474974245 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this I think also isn't POSIX shell: t=$'\x20';echo${t}"${t}" < 1474974374 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This should work too: IFS=Z;t=Z;echo${t}""${t}" < 1474974461 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can do without double quotes I think < 1474974501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're allowing ' and \ you can just do the thing I did above. < 1474974553 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you did where? < 1474974568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat<<<$'\x20' < 1474974577 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anyway, the braces aren't essential, echo$IFS""$IFS"" works still < 1474974590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$'' isn't POSIX < 1474974598 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm quite sure that's not posix shell. both the triple left angle and the dollar apostrophe are late bash extensions < 1474974617 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense that I started to program bash back when the triple left angle didn't yet exist < 1474974620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I was referring to your t=$'... thing. < 1474974671 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be pretty hard without a dollar sign I think < 1474974697 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could do some magic with backticks and some suitable program that prints a space, but I don't see how < 1474974728 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably possible somehow < 1474974747 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my initial attempt was foo=id;echo${foo:...:1} < 1474974761 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo=`id` < 1474974765 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: oh yes! that could work < 1474974777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that still uses $ < 1474974786 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474974848 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, the initial guy gave up because of { being banned made using the space way harder < 1474974923 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you could make that work like this: t=$(echo|pr);t=${t%%[0-9]*};echo$t""$t"" < 1474974968 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's possible with id too, but echo|pr is funnier, because then you can write ${t%%1*} and commit a nasty Y2K bug < 1474974970 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never heard of pr < 1474975007 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is pr even in posix? it's an ancient unix utility which doesn't get much use these days, like dc and ul, but I'm not sure it's in posix < 1474975049 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, you could extract a space from $(date) too, if you cut both the beginning and the end < 1474975147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, pr is among the POSIX utilities! < 1474975149 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1474975161 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but date would also work < 1474975240 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a little sad that i didn't found a way to use about:%20 < 1474975263 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so would a lot of utilities that print at least a space, such as ps, cal, and probably even (nasty) yes&jobs < 1474975266 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474975288 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no, yes isn't a posix utility < 1474975308 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about yes, no < 1474975392 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be much easier in the DOS shell by the way, where comma and semicolon and slash also separate arguments, and in some cases dot does too < 1474975405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function#Higher-order_differentials < 1474975425 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though actually all that stuff wouldn't help you print just a space, because the DOS shell and utilities suck < 1474975439 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1474975458 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and microsoft hasn't learned a thing < 1474975515 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well, the current shell and utilities is very different < 1474975537 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :powershell is more like a replacement for perl < 1474975593 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :powershell is horrible too. they made the same mistakes as in the shell in different ways, but they have no excuse for it that time because they don't have to care for historical compatibility < 1474975609 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write simple perl scripts on windows, because that actually works < 1474975631 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatcmistakes < 1474975634 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some very simple tasks that you can't do with the shell, and you also can't do with perl because windows, but perl gets much closer to it < 1474975647 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I don't use powershell, ask the gurus < 1474975674 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or search on the net or something < 1474975779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So that thing is just the chain rule for second derivatives, of course. < 1474975832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why are there two different dxs? < 1474975917 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=d%5E2(f(g(x)))%2Fdx%5E2 < 1474975945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g, g', g'' is always evaluated at x. f', f'' is always evaluated at g(x) < 1474975965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function#Higher-order_differentials < 1474975965 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474975995 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474976244 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474976246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quine//`? quine < 1474977431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49807&oldid=49806 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-1) 10 < 1474978904 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PENGUIN CHICKEN < 1474979562 0 :igor_!~igor@marian.kr.strace.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474980317 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474981227 0 :igor_!~igor@marian.kr.strace.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474981755 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7gfxg29e815yi.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474982025 0 :nycs!~nycs@180.183.14.22 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474983410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49808&oldid=49807 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-14) 10 < 1474984913 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1474984997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474985652 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474987198 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1474987209 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474988300 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg nooga < 1474988301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2014-01-14 echo "no." > wisdom/nooga \ 2013-07-31 revert \ 2013-07-31 for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ 2013-03-12 revert 2416 \ 2013-03-12 run rm -rf wisdom/* \ 2012-04-08 revert 0 \ 2012-10-06 run rm -rf wisdom \ 2012-10-06 revert \ 2013-03-02 learn nooga hate OS X. NOOGA SMASH. Hug not allowed. \ 2013-03-12 revert 2243 \ 2013-03-12 revert 2416 \ 2013-07-31 for x in wi < 1474988370 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :dowg? < 1474988388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/dowg < 1474988389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag "wisdom/$1" < 1474988396 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/doag < 1474988396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1474988479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the d is for date, the w is for wisdom, and the og is for log hth < 1474988485 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1474988571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the a is for all, i think, although it's all as opposed to without --removed, so is sort of redundant since that's used for all except the original `hog < 1474988606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49809&oldid=49808 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (+1) 10/* goal */ < 1474988607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes that parses
< 1474988823 0 :dahk!92329250@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.50.146.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474988863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome dahk < 1474988864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09dahk: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1474989052 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Fing < 1474989158 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474989184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bf core14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49810&oldid=49809 5* 03Total Vacuum 5* (-44) 10 < 1474989222 0 :dahk!92329250@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.50.146.80 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474989229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg fish < 1474989231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-08-22 le/rn fish/Come and dance and love the fish! Mister Disco summoned it. < 1474989422 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474990181 0 :nycs!~nycs@ppp-27-55-210-249.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474990260 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@180.183.14.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474991279 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474991557 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474991561 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474991708 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474991999 0 :wiggle!?@? NICK :Time-Wrap < 1474992709 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:70a5:d387:fb6d:3da2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474992741 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474993353 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump! < 1474993535 0 :evilmoon!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1474993548 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1474993585 0 :evilmoon!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474993702 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods wob_jonas
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ACTION prods oerjan
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ACTION prods Time-Wrap
< 1474993717 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1474993747 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ^_^ < 1474993751 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fish < 1474993752 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come and dance and love the fish! Mister Disco summoned it. < 1474993759 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ><> < 1474993759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​><>? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474993763 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bf < 1474993764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474993767 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1474993768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1474993784 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mklang < 1474993785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mklang: not found < 1474993810 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon_ < 1474993810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474993814 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon < 1474993815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon is a murderous lunatic, not an unretroreflectorey object. He sometimes causes overmoonification. < 1474994452 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ? < 1474994453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/? < 1474994456 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474994462 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1474994463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1474994472 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -al bin < 1474994473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1474994484 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -al bin < 1474994485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 18004 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 105 Sep 25 20:32 ` \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 64 Sep 25 20:32 `` \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 17 Sep 25 20:31 ^.^ \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 8 Sep 25 20:31 ̊ \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 6 Sep 25 20:31 \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Sep 25 20:31 ! -> interp \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 < 1474994510 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/ < 1474994510 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/: Is a directory < 1474994513 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/? < 1474994514 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooooooodl \ echo hi \ exec \ #!/bin/sh \ CMD=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f1` \ ARG=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-` \ exec ibin/$CMD "$ARG"#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed < 1474994950 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1474994951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474994953 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ? < 1474994954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474994977 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which rnooooooodl < 1474994978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474995006 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: have fun being a lunartic < 1474995215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls ? < 1474995216 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ?: No such file or directory < 1474995221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/? < 1474995222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/` \ bin/̊ \ bin/ \ bin/! \ bin/? \ bin/¿ \ bin/' \ bin/" \ bin/@ \ bin/* \ bin/؟ \ bin/ \ bin/ \ bin/1 \ bin/5 \ bin/f \ bin/h \ bin/q < 1474995245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; echo ? < 1474995246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` ̊ ! ? ¿ ' " @ * ؟   1 5 f h q < 1474995260 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin;echo ?|cat -v < 1474995261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` M-LM-^J ! ? M-BM-? ' " @ * M-XM-^_ ^O ^V 1 5 f h q < 1474995270 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd bin;echo ?|cat -v < 1474995271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^O ^V ! " ' * 1 5 ? @ ` f h q < 1474995299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not entirely sure how `` ? ends up having the same effect as `? < 1474995302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ? test < 1474995303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1474995312 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is wrong here < 1474995315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? test < 1474995315 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1474995325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ? test < 1474995326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1474995333 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ? < 1474995334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? < 1474995343 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd bin;echo ?|cat -vT < 1474995343 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^O ^V ! " ' * 1 5 ? @ ` f h q < 1474995348 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1474995353 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` "bin/?" test < 1474995354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, right < 1474995354 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1474995366 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? test < 1474995367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1474995370 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1474995374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ? doesn't expand unless it's in a directory with a single-character file. < 1474995376 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm stupid < 1474995389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; ? test < 1474995390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1474995414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx a//a ha ha ha < 1474995416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1474995420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ? test < 1474995421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: a: command not found < 1474995425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm a < 1474995426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474995432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was just confused. < 1474995444 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/$'\x0f' < 1474995445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooooooooodl < 1474995466 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, you used `` that means ? expands to something else < 1474995480 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin;echo ?|cat -vT < 1474995480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` M-LM-^J ! ? M-BM-? ' " @ * M-XM-^_ ^O ^V 1 5 f h q < 1474995556 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (bigelow aerospace sounds like a space brothel) < 1474995557 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/$'\xCC\x90' < 1474995558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/̐: No such file or directory < 1474995575 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/$'\xCC\x8a' < 1474995576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo hi < 1474995579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1474995591 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one you executed, through an extra indirection of bin/` < 1474995870 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1474995892 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wob_jonas, appears to be pinging me < 1474995892 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1474995906 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: yes, it does. sorry. < 1474995912 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1474995925 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, on EsperNet my nick is literally "ping" < 1474995929 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im used to it < 1474995932 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try choosing a longer nick. < 1474996041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: no, i did not. ? didn't expand because there's no file in pwd it can expand to. < 1474996063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the contents of bin/ are irrelevant, that's what i was confused about. < 1474996077 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is rarely pinged, but I have a ping on "font" and "unicode" < 1474996089 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it did expand when you said "`` cd bin; ? test" < 1474996094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1474996128 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and on "oren"? < 1474996135 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474996144 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "orin" < 1474996188 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until I was 7 or so, I wasn't sure whether to spell it with a i or an e < 1474996209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were such an oron < 1474996261 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474996263 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: im pretty sure im not a murderous LUNAtic < 1474996266 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon < 1474996267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon is a murderous lunatic, not an unretroreflectorey object. He sometimes causes overmoonification. < 1474996285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: i'm pretty sure that information was based on channel evidence at the time. < 1474996299 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough lol < 1474996356 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ` < 1474996356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/` < 1474996362 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1474996362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1474996374 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which rnooodl < 1474996374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/rnooodl < 1474996379 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo yay | rnooodl < 1474996380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay | rnooodl < 1474996387 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo yay | rnooodl < 1474996388 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1474996397 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/rnooodl < 1474996398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1474996405 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rnooodl < 1474996417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: it only affects a few words. i tried expanding it once, but that was simply _too_ annoying. < 1474996429 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is it supposed to do? < 1474996434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodles < 1474996436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1474996436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474996438 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474996471 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1474996488 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1474996490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1474996496 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sl < 1474996497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474996499 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ls < 1474996499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L is far too short to be a village in Wales. < 1474996510 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? man < 1474996511 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474996522 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/ < 1474996523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ¯\(°​_o)/: Is a directory < 1474996526 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf < 1474996655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Man is destined for Greatness, despite being a small island. < 1474996656 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods Taneb
< 1474996657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'man': Man is destined for Greatness, despite being a small island. < 1474996677 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As islands go, it's not /tiny/ < 1474996679 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474996745 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the top 500 < 1474996796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1474996867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Man is destined for Greatness, despite being a minor island. < 1474996869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'man': Man is destined for Greatness, despite being a minor island. < 1474996874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's woozle out < 1474996945 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ireland is, relatively speaking, one small step from Man < 1474996974 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly Sodor < 1474997205 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo noooooo! no i wont do it nooo! | rnoodl < 1474997206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooo! no i wont do it nooo! | rnoodl < 1474997210 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo noooooo! no i wont do it nooo! | rnooodl < 1474997211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooo! no i wont do it nooo! | rnooodl < 1474997220 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noooooo! no i wont do it nooo! | rnooodl < 1474997221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooo! no i wont do it nooo! < 1474997236 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what does rnooodl do? < 1474997279 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo n | rnooodl < 1474997280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1474997357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn2s/// < 1474997435 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo blah | rnooodl < 1474997436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1474997455 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/rnooodl | rnooodl < 1474997456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1474997476 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl | rnooodl < 1474997476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl < 1474997486 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl | rnooodl < 1474997486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooodl < 1474997488 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl | rnooodl < 1474997488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooodl < 1474997491 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1474997492 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl | rnooodl < 1474997492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl < 1474997494 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl | rnooodl < 1474997494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooodl < 1474997498 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl | rnooodl < 1474997498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooodl < 1474997506 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random noodles i think < 1474997522 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparta//WE. DON'T. KNOW. ANYTHING. ABOUT. SPARTA! < 1474997532 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997534 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pumping lemma//nooooodl's pumping lemma for wisdom entries states that for any sufficiently long valid wisdom entry, there exists a letter that can be repeated any number of times. < 1474997546 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` killall 1 < 1474997547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1: no process found < 1474997550 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` killall init < 1474997551 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite approperiate < 1474997551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :init(1): Operation not permitted \ init(285): Operation not permitted < 1474997553 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474997558 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deniability//Deniability was not invented by Taneb. < 1474997565 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474997567 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474997568 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird//ehird is the person who Taneb definitely isn't. < 1474997572 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997572 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` killall -SIGSEGV init && killall -SIGILL init < 1474997573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :init(1): Operation not permitted \ init(285): Operation not permitted < 1474997574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finn//Finns are helpful, albeit grossly overpopulated (cf. 'Finland'). < 1474997576 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474997579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb isn't < 1474997579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who taneb isn't? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474997582 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1474997583 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspirabiology//conspirabiology is where moth colourings form a dot matrix display to send you subliminal messages. < 1474997594 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which init < 1474997595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474997598 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` init < 1474997599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: init: command not found < 1474997602 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /etc/init < 1474997603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /etc/init: No such file or directory < 1474997609 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /lib/systemd/systemd < 1474997609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /lib/systemd/systemd: No such file or directory < 1474997617 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /sbin/init < 1474997618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :init: must be superuser. < 1474997619 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997619 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooperate//"Cooperate" is a common misspelling of "cōöperāte". < 1474997621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :balrog//Balrogs live at the bottom of the world. < 1474997629 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /sbin/init --help < 1474997629 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :init: must be superuser. < 1474997633 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997633 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` telinit 6 < 1474997634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: telinit: command not found < 1474997634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⌨//You are probably using one right now! < 1474997642 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /sbin/init 6 < 1474997642 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :init: must be superuser. < 1474997645 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474997649 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1474997650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1474997665 0 :augur_!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997666 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to wisdom? < 1474997666 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474997667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wealhtheow//Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story. < 1474997675 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1474997677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474997679 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 1 < 1474997680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1 is just for disambiguation. < 1474997690 0 :mega_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:70a5:d387:fb6d:3da2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997699 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1474997704 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my network must be slow < 1474997717 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's a bug in the signal handler in systemd that causes it to not catch a signal when SIGSEGV/SIGILL are sent at almost the same time < 1474997796 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wjbqeltunjugdlnx QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474997798 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:8ddf:9b35:618e:ea59 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474997818 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474997818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom;for x in *[tT]aneb*;echo "$x";done < 1474997818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom;for x in *[tT]aneb*;do echo "$x";done < 1474997818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1474997818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1474997818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1474997818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I disconnected again? < 1474997818 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474997818 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh Oh < 1474997819 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474997819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474997819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `echo' \ bash: -c: line 0: `cd wisdom;for x in *[tT]aneb*;echo "$x";done' < 1474997820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fundamental theorem of taneb \ people who taneb is not \ taneb \ tanebvention \ tanebventions: math \ tanebventory < 1474997824 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474997825 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474997828 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1474997829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474997829 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1474997829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474997829 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1474997831 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot < 1474997831 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474997832 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997834 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474997834 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1474997836 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit? < 1474997838 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474997840 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474997840 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474997841 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode must be getting DDOSed < 1474997842 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UH OH < 1474997842 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a netsplit < 1474997844 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 273 seconds < 1474997844 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997846 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474997846 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474997847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom;for x in *[tT]aneb*;do echo "$x";done < 1474997849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fundamental theorem of taneb \ people who taneb is not \ taneb \ tanebvention \ tanebventions: math \ tanebventory < 1474997851 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:70a5:d387:fb6d:3da2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474997851 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: probably netsplit < 1474997854 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1474997855 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474997856 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474997857 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the kiddies are back at it again < 1474997857 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474997857 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474997858 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1474997859 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474997859 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1474997881 0 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997887 0 :nycs!~nycs@ppp-27-55-210-249.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474997895 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997896 0 :clog_!?@? NICK :clog < 1474997897 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenod-overflow is overflowing < 1474997904 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997905 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474997908 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997908 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :''In the context of polynomial identity testing, Howard Karloff used the expression "finding a hay in a haystack", referring to the fact that we look for the explicit expression of an element that has a property that is shared by almost every element of a set.'' < 1474997909 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is wrong < 1474997913 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474997920 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1474997928 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ddos < 1474997931 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 < 1474997950 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: that sounds about right < 1474997953 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric : jeffl35: down: kornbluth, morgan(v6), niven, sinisalo, weber < 1474997959 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely seems like it < 1474997963 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cool way to say it < 1474997968 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: mind you, a deterministic primality test is like that too < 1474997978 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we know a good random primality test < 1474997981 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, < 1474997981 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may have got netsplit < 1474997986 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :primality testing isn't like that < 1474997993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474997999 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :primality testing is checking if what you have is a hay or a needle < 1474998003 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to find a determinized version of any good randomized algorithm is like trying to find a hay in a haystack, < 1474998004 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: freenode took a hit to the nose < 1474998018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1474998022 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the random algorithm works because the stack has a lot of hay < 1474998030 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice the huge amounts of disconnects < 1474998033 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998044 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and jeffl35 suspect either netsplit or DDOS < 1474998044 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wtaozxwgwrbohfhf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1474998052 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: ddos < 1474998056 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit isn't taht big < 1474998072 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a DDOS < 1474998072 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: no, it's just coming out of the lake after a swim and shaking itself like a dog. people fall from itself like the water droplets. < 1474998092 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed in #freenode < 1474998112 0 :nycs!~nycs@ppp-27-55-210-249.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998170 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm its a netsplit < 1474998180 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a really strange one < 1474998186 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: maybe a hub went down < 1474998193 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise that many servers won't go down at once < 1474998198 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so < 1474998207 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually it's a *.net *.split not millions of ping timeouts < 1474998273 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998276 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1474998276 0 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998279 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998341 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1474998349 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998407 0 :Guest66676!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1474998415 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474998425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474998433 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474998433 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-fpcouqymasmurkla QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1474998435 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1474998436 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474998439 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474998440 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998448 0 :Yurume____!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998454 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-210-249.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998458 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :again? :( < 1474998462 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474998472 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah >_< < 1474998478 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qsiilgfzactyvwba QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474998480 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474998483 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:49aa:857d:b72a:5c95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474998484 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998485 0 :nycs!~nycs@ppp-27-55-210-249.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474998486 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998486 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474998486 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474998487 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998491 0 :Yurume___!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474998492 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474998497 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474998498 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@149.56.14.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998534 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998538 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998666 0 :sparr!~sparr@104.131.1.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998676 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-indowaqezzbmkyym JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998687 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1474998832 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :rip_freenode < 1474998837 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1474998837 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474998919 0 :rip_freenode!?@? NICK :moonytherip_free < 1474998922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan_: No, the a in hoag stood for Jonathan Hoag originally. < 1474998929 0 :moonytherip_free!?@? NICK :moony_rip_freeno < 1474998934 0 :moony_rip_freeno!?@? NICK :moonrip_freenode < 1474998957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe it also stands for all. I wouldn't know. < 1474998960 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever that is. < 1474998962 0 :moonrip_freenode!?@? NICK :moonyhtedwaf < 1474998966 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1474998968 0 :moonyhtedwaf!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1474998988 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999015 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999077 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999256 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999350 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no such person tdnh < 1474999359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474999382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unpleasant_Profession_of_Jonathan_Hoag < 1474999386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Berger_(singer) < 1474999415 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999421 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, there's no such page hth < 1474999852 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474999853 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474999857 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999859 0 :vifino-!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999865 0 :sparr!~sparr@104.131.1.152 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474999865 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@149.56.14.68 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474999876 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474999877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999893 0 :Cale_!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1474999908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1474999913 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474999917 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474999918 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474999918 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474999932 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474999947 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475000024 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000035 0 :Time-Wrap!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-git-639-4a7554b - http://znc.in < 1475000047 0 :hue!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000103 0 :jeffl35!?@? NICK :32NAB4T1V < 1475000108 0 :kragniz1!?@? NICK :kragniz < 1475000163 0 :sparr!~sparr@104.131.1.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000191 0 :32NAB4T1V!?@? NICK :jeffl35 < 1475000248 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000468 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed, again < 1475000499 0 :hue-!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000505 0 :Cale_!?@? NICK :Cale < 1475000508 0 :hue!hue@zirc/no-waifu-no-laifu/eclipse QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475000516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475000522 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000525 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000540 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: < 1475000540 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function#Higher-order_differentials <-- ooh < 1475000550 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1475000552 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475000552 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475000553 0 :Guest66676!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000570 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475000570 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000572 0 :Guest66666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475000593 0 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000633 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan> oerjan: < 1475000633 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function#Higher-order_differentials <-- ooh < 1475000723 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000727 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475000883 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline QUIT :*.net *.split < 1475000890 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :da spam is realz < 1475000976 0 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Look ma, no logs! < 1475001152 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bagocfjthhureaek JOIN :#esoteric < 1475001158 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1475001188 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475001199 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475001260 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475001299 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oetjbaevepuooxgx JOIN :#esoteric < 1475001317 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1475001373 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475001470 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475001546 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh why is my connection dying, i'm in a datacentre in virginia! < 1475001590 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, my irssi process is. my physical presence still inhabits Toronto) < 1475001703 0 :relrod_!?@? NICK :relrod < 1475001724 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: DDOS < 1475001728 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see #freenode < 1475001730 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475001947 0 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physical presences really get in the way of things < 1475001951 0 :FreeFull_!?@? NICK :FreeFull < 1475002093 0 :hue-!?@? NICK :hue < 1475002595 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA <--- OMG WTF LOL < 1475002606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elon Musk is going all in < 1475002719 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1475002789 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : koffically workng on better typing practices < 1475002896 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :][ < 1475002977 0 :][!?@? NICK :updownleftright < 1475003276 0 :Iuvenelicus!~Iuvenelic@77.247.178.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475003324 0 :Iuvenelicus!~Iuvenelic@77.247.178.122 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475003332 0 :Iuvenelicus!~Iuvenelic@77.247.178.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475003346 0 :irctc562!4df7b27a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.247.178.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475003369 0 :irctc562!4df7b27a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.247.178.122 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475003428 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oetjbaevepuooxgx QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475003442 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475003461 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475003478 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475003494 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475003715 0 :Bowserinator!?@? NICK :updownleftrightb < 1475003720 0 :updownleftrightb!?@? NICK :Bowserinator < 1475003727 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-210-249.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475003852 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1475003911 0 :Iuvenelicus!~Iuvenelic@77.247.178.122 PART #esoteric : < 1475004057 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475004059 0 :sparr!~sparr@104.131.1.152 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475004093 0 :Iuvenelicus_!~Iuvenelic@109.201.133.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475004099 0 :Iuvenelicus_!~Iuvenelic@109.201.133.95 PART #esoteric : < 1475004114 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475004138 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475004141 0 :updownleftright!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently Google Sheets can be considered Turing complete (you can make all sorts of logic gates in it too) < 1475004145 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dlvevgjxrfeypslx JOIN :#esoteric < 1475004236 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, naturally < 1475004279 0 :updownleftright!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs off to goof off in google sheets
< 1475004303 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475004314 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475004316 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a spreadsheet program that uses Ncurses instead of a stupid GUI < 1475004428 0 :updownleftright!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475004513 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sc? < 1475004543 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.startaylor.net/2016/08/29/sc/ < 1475004631 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earliest spreadsheets did that < 1475004631 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, let me google that < 1475004633 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YxNYiyALg < 1475004716 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475004721 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use it myself, but I've been meaning to learn sc < 1475004805 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475004824 0 :updownleftright!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how hard making a hq9+ interp in Google Sheets would be
< 1475005174 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1475005187 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dlvevgjxrfeypslx QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475005206 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475005212 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475005234 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475005265 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-enoglikbzhjctfbp JOIN :#esoteric < 1475005592 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475006646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475006802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475006840 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1475007156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475007260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1475007260 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1475008019 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475008020 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-enoglikbzhjctfbp QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475008029 0 :pdxleif_!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008033 0 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008039 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475008039 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475008040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475008048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008077 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475008077 0 :pdxleif_!?@? NICK :pdxleif < 1475008078 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008079 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475008117 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008225 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1475008240 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which fold are you always meant to use in haskell < 1475008298 0 :feliks!0Me42K73PG@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c17:380 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475008429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008455 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008455 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008507 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008507 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008508 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1475008511 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, was it the catamorphism? < 1475008535 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008536 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475008541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008543 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008570 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475008571 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475008575 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jcdwfppvgzvyspwc JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008585 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475008587 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008587 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which fold are you always meant to use in haskell < 1475008588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475008592 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008597 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008629 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008652 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008691 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008726 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi Cale < 1475008789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Cale. Hale. < 1475008812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: what do you think of http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1943056/is-a-topology-freely-generated-by-a-subbasis < 1475008820 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475008956 0 :feliks!wN2Is6VBYG@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009027 0 :pelegreno___!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475009053 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475009079 0 :espes_!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475009087 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jcdwfppvgzvyspwc QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475009103 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475009104 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475009108 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009108 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009124 0 :pelegreno___!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009137 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that answer works < 1475009139 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009151 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475009253 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that answer. < 1475009317 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is that person also implying that the sort of thing I was talking about wouldn't work? < 1475009478 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no glogbot :/ < 1475009503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can make a free complete Heyting algebra or free frame or something from the poset? < 1475009505 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I mean clog, though glogbot is missing too < 1475009509 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube is glitching out for me < 1475009530 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the videos where anyone is speaking have the voices replaced with warpling < 1475009534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Also I'm a bit surprised that it's a right adjoint. < 1475009539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should I have expected that? < 1475009583 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hextris.io/ this is so coool < 1475009737 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it seems to only be affecting any video that was originally posted as a stream < 1475009745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the pieces just have to touch. < 1475009750 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they had to be on the same "level". < 1475009812 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475009906 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-efrfqdxupwnbyabr JOIN :#esoteric < 1475010093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :8038 points < 1475010097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game is pretty good. < 1475010521 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475010577 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you playing on a phone? < 1475010609 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first try was with my phone and screen rotation was on < 1475010715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played on a laptop. < 1475010720 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then on a phone. < 1475011339 0 :pelegreno___!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1475011370 0 :espes_!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011378 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475011386 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475011420 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-efrfqdxupwnbyabr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475011422 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475011432 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011442 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475011444 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475011449 0 :alercah_!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011482 0 :pelegreno___!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011483 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011506 0 :alercah_!?@? NICK :alercah < 1475011514 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011720 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dakdqndhqczbhijc JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011926 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011963 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475011963 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475011983 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475011988 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475011989 0 :alercah!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011989 0 :alercah!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Changing host < 1475011989 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011989 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475011993 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475012007 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475012024 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475012636 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nrcffoshcpwvyrly QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475012641 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@64.62.173.65 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475012645 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vrrawvcwkofjtaty JOIN :#esoteric < 1475012660 0 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475012712 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475012720 0 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475012775 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1475012786 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475012788 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475012788 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475012790 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475012799 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475012859 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475013048 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475013061 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vrrawvcwkofjtaty QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475013071 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dekvpfeivcfyfhnk JOIN :#esoteric < 1475013278 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475013582 0 :int-e_!?@? NICK :int-e < 1475013990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475014976 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475015010 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475015150 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475015371 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475015683 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7gfxg29e815yi.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475015717 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475015897 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475015945 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1475017292 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1475017461 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475017606 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475017742 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475017815 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( The Everchanging Toooopiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic ♪ ) < 1475017911 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | this counter has been incremented 0 times | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475017923 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | this counter has been incremented 1 time | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475018034 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475018044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the help of self-fulfilling counter technology, now we can change the topic as much as we like < 1475018053 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, well, until the number gets large enough that it doesn't fit) < 1475018260 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :his523! < 1475018313 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1475018339 0 :mega_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:70a5:d387:fb6d:3da2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475018422 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-bzltcmtplcsmypmf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475018461 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475019547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475019553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be thinking about string division... for some reason... < 1475019626 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475019678 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475019687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quotient s/t of two strings s, t (where tally(t) <= tally(s) keywise (and for a string s (different from the s in the outer scope), tally(s) is a map from singleton strings to is equal to any < 1475019689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1475019692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't mean to send that yet < 1475019745 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)) < 1475019772 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. would you please not pull a fungot and balance your parentheses hth < 1475019772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tally(s) for a string s is a dictionary (or hashmap, or associative array, or whatever you want to call it) from characters c to positive integers, where tally(s)_c is the number of occurrences of c in the string < 1475019783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fine :,( < 1475019801 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry :( < 1475019893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So e.g. tally('I am Santa, lord of dankness') = {'a' -> 4, 'd' -> 1, 'e' -> 1, ...} < 1475019896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple enough < 1475020076 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgtm. < 1475020080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applying a function f (or operation, or relation, or whatever) with arity of n to n dictionaries d1, d2, ..., dn is the same as the dictionary D with keys of the union of the sets of keys of d1..n, where D_k = f(d1_k, d2_k, ..., dn_k) < 1475020093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* applying it keywise < 1475020156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a key does not appear in one of the inputs, the value is... OK, it varies by context. Just state what the default is when you say you're taking it keywise < 1475020247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So keywise (default 0.8) {'a' -> 1, 'b' -> 2, 'c' -> 3}+{'a' -> 4, 'c' -> 92} is equal to {'a' -> 5, 'b' -> 2.8, 'c' -> 95} < 1475020263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is this making any ounce of sense so far? < 1475020286 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's peachy so far. < 1475020291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, good < 1475020412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the quotient s/t of two strings s, t where tally(t) <= tally(s) keywise (default 0) is pretty much any string that can be generated by deleting k of each character in t (where k is the number of times that the character appears) from s < 1475020463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 'abcdabcd'/'acc' = 'bdabd' | 'abdbd' < 1475020486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(| is essentially kleene +, but more familiar a notation) < 1475020519 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shuffling permitted? < 1475020528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, only deletion < 1475020612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If t contains any characters s doesn't (or contains more of any character than t), you're pretty much done (this, of course, makes single characters the prime numbers of strings- which seems pretty obvious in retrospect) < 1475020623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/than t/than s/ < 1475020633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if two deletion passes result in the same end string, do you merge them together or do you count all copies as separate results? < 1475020644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You merge them < 1475020669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 'aabcd'/'a' is just 'abcd', even though you can obtain it by deleting either 'a' < 1475020723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can talk about different types of quotient of a string too, which are always a proper subset of all quotients < 1475020843 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475020963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Principal Quotient Distance of two strings s and t is the minimum number of steps it requires to turn s into t using only insertions of a contiguous block of characters and deletions of contiguous blocks of characters (so 'abcdefg' and 'abfg' have a distance of 1, as you delete the characters 2..4) < 1475021040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The principal quotients of s and t (s/t) are the strings that have the smallest Principal Quotient Distance from the original string (that is, they all have the same distance) < 1475021125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So while 'acdabd' is a quotient of 'abcdabcd' and 'bc' ('abcdabcd'/'bc'), it is not a principal quotient because it requires 2 steps (delete the first 'b' and second 'c') while 'adabcd' and 'abcdad' only require 1 < 1475021669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: If that makes any sense? < 1475021952 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475022228 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475022612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have created a rudimentary encoding that gives a unique name to each edit distance function < 1475022645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Levenshtein is called 'dis' < 1475022751 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475022761 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475022965 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it makes sense. < 1475022978 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was momentarily distracted by a kimchi howto video >_>'...
< 1475023346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PQD is DI < 1475023396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(case aims to be significant, but isn't necessarily- usually, uppercase is the same as lowercase, but for substrings instead of single characters) < 1475023594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these examples are yet to show the weighting option, but there is one) < 1475023678 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475024989 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MOLAR CHICKEN < 1475025876 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo momma is so fat she was reincarnated as 2 people < 1475025877 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :namaste < 1475026869 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475026869 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475026996 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475027026 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475027097 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475027281 0 :updownleftright!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475027939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such thing as a TRInomial coefficient? < 1475028134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With trico(n, k) presumably being equal to the coefficient of the term x^k in (x^2+x+1)^n, or something like that) < 1475028327 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-189.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475028513 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-000-189.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475028791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything above uncountable? A set is uncountable if there is no way to inject it into the naturals < 1475028831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are the simplest uncountable set (well, by "simplest" I mean "the one I know"), but is it possible to have a set that cannot be injected into the reals? < 1475029089 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sets of all sets of real numbers < 1475029099 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the set of all sets of real numbers < 1475029216 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for any set S, the set of all the subsets of S is larger than S < 1475029763 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Oooh, nice < 1475029791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Are you sure that that's true of infinite sets? < 1475029805 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's cantor's theorem < 1475029808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1475029881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is triplethink possible? < 1475030437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it would only be possible if there are 3 statements a, b, c where a↯b, b↯c, and a↯c (where ↯ is the contradiction conjunction, which could probably just be xor in retrospect)) < 1475030456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure there's a way to do this using ->, but I don't feel like finding it) < 1475030983 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily POSTCARD GET. I shall resend this package ASAP--you better pick it up this time! < 1475030983 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475031031 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475032047 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475032658 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 1152 < 1475032667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1152: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 < 1475033049 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475033178 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor -7 < 1475033179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: invalid option -- '7' \ Try `factor --help' for more information. < 1475033189 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that *is* informative < 1475033191 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor -- -7 < 1475033192 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: unrecognized option '-- -7' \ Try `factor --help' for more information. < 1475033194 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1475033221 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475033445 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475033460 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475033766 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475033799 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475033988 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475034089 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475034109 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475034154 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475034206 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475034331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NASA changed the zodiac (or, more accurately, they accounted for shifts in the earth that we hadn't used yet) < 1475034346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a thirteenth sign now- Ophiuchus- and I'm apparently that < 1475034364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! I fall under a different bullshittial classification from before! < 1475034394 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: B1875 vs J2000? < 1475034412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I honestly don't know what that means < 1475034419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is J2000 "julian in 2000"? < 1475034425 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :equinox, yeah something like that < 1475034443 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox_(celestial_coordinates) < 1475034476 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the discovery of the thirteenth sign of the zodiac fall under both types of esoteric at once? < 1475034498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, definitely < 1475034515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could also be Scorpio; I'm not really clear on what's inclusive and what's exclusive) < 1475034554 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Constellations_ecliptic_equirectangular_plot.svg < 1475034557 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I like this visualization < 1475034615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus#Ophiuchus_and_the_zodiac < 1475034622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My birthday is on 11-29, which is the turnover from Scorpio to Ophiuchus) < 1475034627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1475034665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm calling it a sign < 1475035307 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475035357 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475035371 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475035585 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475035649 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You know what'd be really fun? < 1475035652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axiomatic astrology < 1475035665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with a set of basic assumptions and all astrology is mathematically derived from there < 1475035673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still bullshit, but now it's FORMAL bullshit < 1475036586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :256.0039061903972 = The Silicon Mean < 1475036626 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm vaguely thinking of something that changes the number of degrees in a circle over time to allow for the changes in the Earth's orbit < 1475036639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should define the number of degrees in a full circle to be equal to the number of days in a year < 1475036648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Um, we're using radians hth < 1475036653 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assert, without proof, that it was originally exactly 360 < 1475036669 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but changed over time < 1475036671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 2.0952939852239147 is the metagolden mean (the golden mean-th metallic mean) < 1475036676 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus requiring occasional "leap degrees" < 1475036680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1475036755 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should probably be using sidereal days rather than solar days, come to think of it < 1475036772 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more appropriate for astrology /and also/ harder to understand < 1475036799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so (((1+sqrt(5))/2)+sqrt(((1+sqrt(5))/2)**2+4))/2) < 1475037082 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, there's also such a thing as anti-sidereal time < 1475037115 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike sidereal time, which is designed to be appropriate for astronomy < 1475037136 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-sidereal time is explicitly intended to be arbitrary and not match any natural astronomical cycles < 1475037198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oooh, nice < 1475037205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.7320508075688772 is the Golden Root-Mean-Square < 1475038547 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is may 10th still a Tauros? < 1475038622 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what calendar will Elon Musk's colonists use? < 1475038732 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: darian calendar, probably? < 1475039217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to become a weather geek, just for http://xkcd.com/1324/ < 1475039248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar MRI < 1475039292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1475039295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PAMR < 1475039297 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAMR 280353Z 28004KT 10SM CLR 09/01 A3023 RMK AO2 SLP238 T00940006 < 1475039321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1475039327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't understand METAR < 1475039684 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume @metar gives it in the international format rather than North American? < 1475039704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or would a North American airport give North American metars? < 1475039748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, yep, looks NA < 1475040550 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1475040702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475041315 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-133-167.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1475044335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm wondering when D-modules enter into all this. < 1475044344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb can probably help me out. < 1475044371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you like derivatives? < 1475045446 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475046450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475047166 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Cale: Maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi-Civita_symbol is what I want. < 1475047303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not. < 1475047758 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-133-167.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475048266 0 :lol1!~ufo-1@73.104.51.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475048670 0 :lol1!~ufo-1@73.104.51.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475048741 0 :lol1!~ufo-1@73.104.51.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475050012 0 :lol1!~ufo-1@73.104.51.73 PART #esoteric : < 1475050091 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-131-29.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1475051595 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475051836 0 :mad!boulam@107-190-32-246.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1475051880 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to force linux to swap stuff out to disk and free X bytes of ram? < 1475051973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can swapoff completely. < 1475051979 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swapoff then swapon? < 1475051981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, wait. < 1475051984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread. < 1475051989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe lifthrasiir misread too. < 1475051994 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1475051999 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah *to disk*, yeah < 1475052005 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't know < 1475052017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you want to? < 1475052068 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i may need to run something that must actually stay in ram and firefox isn't as important < 1475052101 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: cause thrashing then drop that process? < 1475052103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the normal heuristics aren't good enough? < 1475052125 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: ptrace the process you care about, run a mlockall in it. < 1475052129 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the extreme case where one process is filling the memory up it should move almost everything else into the disk < 1475052131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have a process mlock its memory if you want to be sure it's in RAM. < 1475052144 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :provided that swap is enough < 1475052151 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise, well, OOM killer ensues) < 1475052173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing you can do is get more RAM. RAM is so cheap. < 1475052176 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for this < 1475052207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even without mlock I assume that if a process just prefaults its pages, it won't do too badly for many workloads. < 1475052228 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I have not derivatived for many years < 1475052245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe MAP_POPULATE does that? < 1475052273 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on an anonymous map? < 1475052313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure whether that works. < 1475052350 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/aclements/thesis/blob/master/bench/mcorelib/block.c does it, at least. < 1475052577 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475052599 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mlockall with MCL_ONFAULT looks great < 1475052700 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the "Hotel California" option. < 1475052720 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can fault in any time you like, but you can never page out. < 1475052755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i see a hotel california in your future hth < 1475052791 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I booked one of our corporate apartments for that, it's not a hotel. < 1475052818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hotel would be a prodorate apartment, I guess. < 1475053562 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475053613 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x3131 0x3163 < 1475053613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ㄱㄲㄳㄴㄵㄶㄷㄸㄹㄺㄻㄼㄽㄾㄿ \ ㅀㅁㅂㅃㅄㅅㅆㅇㅈㅉㅊㅋㅌㅍㅎㅏ \ ㅐㅑㅒㅓㅔㅕㅖㅗㅘㅙㅚㅛㅜㅝㅞㅟ \ ㅠㅡㅢㅣ < 1475053773 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x2732 0x2739 < 1475053773 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​✲✳✴✵✶✷✸✹ < 1475055073 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475056039 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475056398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475057285 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:7dba:1b55:8d06:53b4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475061655 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-000-189.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475061735 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-189.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475062469 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475062668 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-088-116.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475063759 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475063765 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pawn//*YOU* are a pawn. *MWAHAHAHAHA* < 1475063958 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dekvpfeivcfyfhnk QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475063989 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475063991 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1475063991 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 9h 10m 7s ago: POSTCARD GET. I shall resend this package ASAP--you better pick it up this time! < 1475064018 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAAA! THE POSTCARD ARRIVED! (Didn't get mine yet though...) < 1475064018 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475064053 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia (Which is to be expected. I live in a postal blackhole, right in the middle of a ~4 million people metropolitan area.) < 1475064053 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475064648 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/pawn < 1475064651 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse oerjan < 1475064691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask evilipse hellipse. who are you? are you as evil as you claim to be? < 1475064691 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475064707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, pawn on the 8th rank < 1475064850 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alice < 1475064851 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alice doesn't want to go among mad people. < 1475064877 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P4a+ < 1475065126 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1475065129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. < 1475065157 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented twice | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475065172 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SWEATY CHICKEN < 1475065195 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475065423 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bmbfasgkecsdbcgr JOIN :#esoteric < 1475065424 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pawn < 1475065425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*YOU* are a pawn. *MWAHAHAHAHA* < 1475065599 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? queen < 1475065599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :queen? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475067347 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, get to the other side of the board and we'll talk < 1475069322 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-131-29.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475069335 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1475069590 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475071300 0 :augur_!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475071334 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:a51d:dfbf:5229:d784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475072518 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-132-224.revip3.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1475072757 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-088-116.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475072803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475073010 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475073321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented thrice | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475074221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinomial_theorem#Multinomial_coefficients < 1475074221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475074584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` factor -- -7 < 1475074590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `-7' is not a valid positive integer < 1475074598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1475074737 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1475074759 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 7 < 1475074759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7: 7 < 1475074794 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION chases moonythedwarf off his lawn
< 1475076014 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOOnythedwarf < 1475076361 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475076547 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarven cows in new york? that's silly < 1475076653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly -----###
< 1475076697 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dies
< 1475077179 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-27-55-132-224.revip3.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475077398 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-171-96-190-248.revip8.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1475078324 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION digs up oerjan's garden again
< 1475078419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applies his saucepan ===\__/
< 1475078440 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides from saucepan
< 1475078463 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js console.log("anyways, can anyone break out of this sandbox? (:") < 1475078474 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475078478 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js console.log("anyways, can anyone break out of this sandbox? (:") < 1475078478 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, can anyone break out of this sandbox? (: | < 1475078505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good time to not know javascript. < 1475078515 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475079470 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rsc < 1475079470 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloaded sandbox corescript < 1475079478 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js util.inspect(global) < 1475079478 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [SyntaxError: Unexpected end of input] global: '[Circular]' } < 1475079633 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rsc < 1475079634 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloaded sandbox corescript < 1475079636 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js util.inspect(global) < 1475079636 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[object global] | < 1475079642 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js util.format(global) < 1475079642 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[object global] | < 1475079652 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js console.log(util.format(global)) < 1475079652 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[object global] | {obuf: , console: [object Object], util: [object Object], global: [Cyclic object], process: [object Object], } | < 1475080444 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475081818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475082237 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523, wb Kaynato < 1475082302 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :................................................................................................................................... < 1475082319 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1475082332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((.)S:^):^ < 1475082340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek no fungot < 1475082360 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is already conteplating adding Underload to otherbot
< 1475082364 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i oerjan? < 1475082368 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! underload ((.)S:^):^ < 1475082369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... < 1475082371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well why not < 1475082608 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475082609 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1475082618 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul ((.)S:^):^ < 1475082643 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475082668 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: there's an infinite loop in the program < 1475082669 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: wai < 1475082680 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475082681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'll need cutoffs for programs using infinite CPU/memory/stack < 1475082682 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAI < 1475082687 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it timesout < 1475082688 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he does that < 1475082694 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it just fcrashed < 1475082701 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: you can write a program like this though < 1475082709 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1475082723 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475082728 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: it's dedd < 1475082736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! underload (-)(~:S(|)S:*~:^):^ < 1475082737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-|--|----|--------|----------------|--------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ < 1475082742 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475082744 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's evaluating powers of 2 < 1475082756 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in unary < 1475082763 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus can use huge amounts of memory in a very short amount of time < 1475082775 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (-)(~:S(|)S:*~:^):^ < 1475082778 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-list < 1475082778 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: echo ping pong eval flushq help list use store cash inv savecstate buy sell give kick ban unban op deop mode attack poke join part reload whois nick pyc pad pyr giac befr padclr lolr ><>r js rsc ul < 1475082780 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1475082785 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pad (-)(~:S(|)S:*~:^):^ < 1475082786 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul < 1475082790 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-help ul < 1475082790 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: Run programs written in Underload < 1475082791 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1475082796 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: its single line < 1475082796 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh ok < 1475082799 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (-)(~:S(|)S:*~:^):^ < 1475082805 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1475082805 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ping < 1475082805 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1475082811 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its dieing < 1475082811 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not seeming to work < 1475082813 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475082822 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (test)S < 1475082823 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475082827 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1475082837 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherbot < 1475082841 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1475082849 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: try again < 1475082853 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (test)S < 1475082854 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (test)S < 1475082858 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1475082859 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1475082860 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475082860 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1475082864 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well derpdederp < 1475082949 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475082950 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1475082952 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (test)S < 1475082952 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test < 1475082954 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1475082955 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1475082957 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test < 1475082972 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475082972 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1475082975 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (test)S < 1475082975 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test < 1475082994 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thats that < 1475083082 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1475083090 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475083118 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1475083120 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u die < 1475083129 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! < 1475083138 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475083146 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: wtf? < 1475083156 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475083178 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that was in a vm? < 1475083186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of kernel panic normally is fairly fatal to IRC connections < 1475083192 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475083201 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Client Quit < 1475083202 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475083434 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-171-96-190-248.revip8.asianet.co.th QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475083506 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-223-24-69-43.revip6.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1475083647 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :# killall -SIGILL init & killall -SIGSEGV init < 1475083660 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather interesting bug in systemd < 1475083671 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :causes systemd to die and the system to crash < 1475083808 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` killall -SIGILL init & killall -SIGSEGV init < 1475083809 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :init(1): Operation not permitted \ init(285): Operation not permitted < 1475083827 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt seem to do anything to Hackego's older software, so its a newer bug < 1475083936 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: has to be root < 1475083939 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also has to be systemd < 1475083942 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -al /sbin/init < 1475083944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 36992 Jul 14 2013 /sbin/init < 1475083948 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1475083950 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses sysvinit < 1475083955 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /etc/systemd < 1475083956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /etc/systemd: No such file or directory < 1475085422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: LAter < 1475085802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475085912 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily reminder that i'll be at niagara in a week and a half. < 1475085912 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475085926 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475085954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar pamr < 1475085954 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAMR 281653Z 00000KT 10SM CLR 01/M03 A3035 RMK AO2 SLP280 T00111028 < 1475086147 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: The HackEgo init process is actually https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/umlbox/src/tip/init.c < 1475086156 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is completely unrelated to whatever is visible at /sbin/init. < 1475086170 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475086244 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s56S4_V3GJQ < 1475086809 0 :irctc201!bbc8bc0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.200.188.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475086862 0 :irctc201!bbc8bc0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.200.188.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucy123 < 1475086881 0 :irctc201!bbc8bc0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.200.188.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody out there? < 1475086893 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1475086920 0 :irctc201!bbc8bc0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.200.188.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this an esoteric chat? < 1475086934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome irctc201 < 1475086935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irctc201: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1475086984 0 :irctc201!bbc8bc0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.200.188.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does this work? first timer < 1475087024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like you've already figured out how it works. < 1475087108 0 :irctc201!bbc8bc0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.200.188.15 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1475087126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? histogram < 1475087127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Histograms are diagrams showing histamine levels. Taneb invented them. < 1475087156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought a histogram was a message sent backward in time. < 1475088566 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh newcomer? < 1475089011 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1475089072 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475089079 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1475089126 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (test)S < 1475089126 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test < 1475089173 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rsc < 1475089173 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloaded sandbox corescript < 1475089175 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475089182 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js util.format("\r\n") < 1475089182 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] } } < 1475089190 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js console.log(util.format("\r\n")) < 1475089191 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : | | < 1475090298 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:a51d:dfbf:5229:d784 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475091030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475091316 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475091355 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x; while (1) { x = [x] } < 1475091356 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [Error: Script execution timed out.] global: '[Circular]' } < 1475091366 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very short timeout < 1475091522 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks
< 1475091536 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exactly one second < 1475091544 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475091544 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1475091583 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x="a"; while(1) { x = x + x } < 1475091583 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [RangeError: Invalid string length] global: '[Circular]' } < 1475091669 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes otherbot and applys a 2 second timeout
< 1475091719 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js function x() { x(); x(); } x() < 1475091719 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ [RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded] global: '[Circular]' } < 1475091736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it looks like there are limits on many of the common tricks used to blow up memory < 1475091914 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-223-24-69-43.revip6.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475092062 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : :) < 1475092380 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475092391 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g/buffer 3 < 1475092412 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if ais523 will come up with a exploit for it
< 1475092698 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pyc print 1+1 < 1475092699 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​2 | < 1475093164 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475093434 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475093487 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I don't know enough JavaScript really < 1475093585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did you ever write up the rules to your game? < 1475093595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you were planning to do it once. < 1475093596 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I started a writeup < 1475093603 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are still some things I'm unsure about < 1475093955 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475094448 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475095011 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475095528 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475095603 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently "finale" is pronounced /"fIn@li:/. I don't understand how English spelling works. < 1475095738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't, mostly < 1475095771 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "a" in "finale" is definitely an "ar" sound even though that's inconsistent with every other spelling rule I know < 1475095812 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more bothered by the /i:/ < 1475095816 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're correlated < 1475095853 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, you're right < 1475095881 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I'm wrong < 1475095886 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave the wrong pronunciation < 1475096034 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dictionary says /fI"na:li/ (Br), /fI"n{li/ (Am) < 1475096038 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that still doesn't make sense < 1475096042 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a different way < 1475096115 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where /i/ in this dictionary is an abbreviation meaning it's pronounced as either /i:/ or /I/ depending on the dialect < 1475096129 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and typically /i:/ in american < 1475096161 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't make much sense to use it when there are separate british and american pronunciations give, but that's still what the dictionary says < 1475096194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spelling is largely independent from the pronunciation, at least as far as vowels are concerned. < 1475096197 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if the stress is on the second syllable, that explains why the first syllable has /I/ < 1475096212 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol thought I was in ##english for a sec < 1475096216 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check if my Oxford dict gives a pronunciation < 1475096236 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowserinator: here we mostly laugh at English rather than trying to justify it :-) < 1475096238 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowserinator: nah, that channel rarely talks about English < 1475096244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, is English a stressful language? :-P < 1475096257 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1475096274 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: they told me it is supposed to be one < 1475096282 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :english speakers are lazy, you don't need to move your mouth that much < 1475096292 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :although for some reason if you're slightly off they won't understand you. < 1475096374 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there are a few places in English where the meaning of a word changes depending on stress < 1475096378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"refuse", for example < 1475096390 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's hard to construct a sentence in which both meanings work < 1475096395 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the oxford dictionary says /fI"nA:li/ or /fI"nA:leI/ which is strange < 1475096410 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, "refuse"? really? < 1475096422 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, iirc in those situations, a stress on the last syllable is a verb, on the first syllable a noun < 1475096426 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: indeed < 1475096427 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, as a noun it means trash < 1475096430 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freeze. < 1475096432 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's hard to work it into a sentence < 1475096438 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: right, but how does the stress change? < 1475096447 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :REfuse < 1475096460 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there are a few words where the stress changes < 1475096470 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: REF-yuse is the noun, ree-FYUSE is the verb < 1475096471 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't know "refuse" is one of them < 1475096487 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough, the first e is short when stressed and long when nonstressed < 1475096522 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuses > * < 1475096551 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is making a gravity based 2d esolang that, if minimized, is reversable
< 1475096556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "to refuse" could mean "to replace the fuse in" < 1475096567 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: is it uncomputable? < 1475096570 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks the dictionary
< 1475096579 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That would fit. < 1475096587 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it's said that the easiest way to tell the difference between a plumber and a scientist is to ask them to pronounce unionise < 1475096597 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :-) < 1475096615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the scientists more commonly use "deionise" I think, unless both words exist with different meanings < 1475096632 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly it was "unionised" < 1475096644 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, the stress is in the same place in both words < 1475096648 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the syllable boundaries are different < 1475096654 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought of „unionized“ first.
< 1475096660 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/zed/ze/ < 1475096674 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :un-i - on -ise versus un - i-on - ise < 1475096683 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the syllable boundaries are the same too, but the syllable /spacing/ is different? < 1475096689 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "refuse" as a verb is /rI"fju:z/, which is how I'd pronounce it too, and "refuse" as a noun is /"rEfju:s/. it's strange that they differ; either pronunciation would make sense separately, but together they don't. < 1475096689 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of language is this?! < 1475096706 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :,o0(Ion Laser) < 1475096739 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: how do you pronounce infinite and finite? < 1475096742 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strangely my Dictionaries only have that one in English-Croatian FreeDict < 1475096749 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I do know those differ < 1475096752 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the other English-Foo-Dictionaries i have installed < 1475096757 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I pronounce finite deliberately incorrectly < 1475096759 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :(„ion laser“) < 1475096765 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on my list, together with cycle - bicycle, and sign - signal < 1475096799 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(definite and infinite rhyme, finite rhymes with I knight) < 1475096806 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how? do you change both syllables to match "infinite" or just one of them, and if so which? < 1475096823 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, to match infinite < 1475096842 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "finite" is /"faI.naIt/ and "infinite" is /"InfInIt/ or /"InfIn@t/ I think < 1475096851 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also definite and infinite don't rhyme, it's a tertiary rhyme so you need to match the last two syllables and the vowel and trailing consonants of the third-last < 1475096863 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the vowel in the third-last syllable doesn't match there < 1475096868 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are pretty lose though < 1475096869 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*close < 1475096874 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "unionise" is four syllables? I'd have said it as three syllables < 1475096875 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I would use them in a poem < 1475096904 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the "io" is kind-of dubious as a dipthong < 1475096911 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like /"jUnj,@,naIz/ < 1475096924 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try to pronounce it as one but the syllable gap's audible pretty much however fast you try < 1475096950 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, there's no diphtong because I pronunce it with a /nj/ consonant < 1475096958 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I sometimes pronounce the plumber's way was yoonyunise < 1475096974 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: isn't that English "ng"? or am I confusing it with something else? < 1475096980 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's rather /"jU,nj@,naIz/ < 1475096988 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ungeonise" isn't how the word's pronounced at all < 1475097003 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :In German i would separate „unionize“ as „un-i-o-nize“ probably ;=P < 1475097005 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, phonetic j is a consonant y I think < 1475097033 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475097037 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "ny" isn't possible without a syllable boundary in English I think < 1475097045 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a consonant < 1475097054 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that might depend on your dialect < 1475097058 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible in Russian (e.g. "nyet"), but I don't think we use that sound in English < 1475097064 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: new? < 1475097078 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: actually, I'll buy that < 1475097084 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite identical but close enough < 1475097087 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would actually be interesting to let a Program create the german Separation for „unionize“ < 1475097088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do it at the end of a syllable? < 1475097107 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if "new" has the y sound at the start of the vowel rather than the end of the consonant < 1475097123 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, "ew" has a y sound too < 1475097125 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think it's "ng", but maybe. /nj/ is actually /J/ or /ɲ/, a palatal nasal. some English speakers (including me) pronunce it in "new" and "news" < 1475097134 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which implies that it's part of the vowel < 1475097147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though more than half of the English speakers pronounce "new" with just an /n/ instead < 1475097152 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ewe" and "you" famously have the same pronunciation < 1475097170 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I think I pronounce "new" as "n" followed by "you" < 1475097171 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd suggest nuclear, but that would only make matters worse. < 1475097195 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you pronounce "during"? < 1475097201 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ...my mouth feels different saying ewe and you but they sound the same < 1475097202 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "Tuesday"? < 1475097209 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475097218 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's another word with "n" too, but I can't remember < 1475097232 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: "during" has a dipthong or maybe tripthong on the u for me < 1475097238 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, "revenue" < 1475097246 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ee - oo - ur < 1475097272 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"revenue" ends in "new" for me < 1475097296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I expect "revenue" to end in "new" for most people < 1475097350 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I either pronounce during like you do or with a like dj consonant at the beginning and just a oo-ur or maybe just an ur < 1475097378 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a bizarre accent at times) < 1475097392 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think I've come to a conclusion: consonant y doesn't exist in my accent < 1475097402 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is installing „texlive“
< 1475097405 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a different vowel from vowel y (which is a long i in most accents) < 1475097405 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I blame my Dutch Australian/not quite Geordie heritage) < 1475097420 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can't we say it's a semi-vowel or glide? < 1475097462 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can buy glide < 1475097474 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's notably different from semi-vowels like l or n though < 1475097476 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so you don't pronounce a consonant in "your" or "yes" or "York" or "yawn"? < 1475097498 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in "mayonaise"? < 1475097504 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @@ < 1475097505 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how do they spell "mayonaise" in English? < 1475097507 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : - < 1475097509 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o 1 < 1475097510 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: all of those are vowel transitions < 1475097511 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Hello92+4*84*World92+3*\ . < 1475097511 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475097511 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayonnaise I think, not sure though < 1475097513 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ @ < 1475097515 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : $? < 1475097517 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ~ < 1475097519 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the Hello, World! program < 1475097519 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayonnaise, yes < 1475097529 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't even have a y sound in it < 1475097544 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, forget mayonnaise then < 1475097614 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp replace the o with a ' < 1475097620 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, I think it is possible for an English dialect to actually not have a y consonant, only a semi-vowel < 1475097652 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a semivowel is something that you can hold indefinitely despite not being a traditional vowel < 1475097666 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is installing texlive-lang-german
< 1475097666 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Narf < 1475097671 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one took me long to figure out ☺ < 1475097672 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can hold a consonantal-y < 1475097745 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, a semivowel is a vowel that doesn't make a whole syllable, but is next to a vowel and forms a glide with it. if you hold the same sound long, then it's not a semi-vowel, but a vowel. that's not a problem, many words can be pronounced either with a vowel or a semi-vowel. < 1475097791 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how would you react to nonwords like "plllfft" which are pronounceable despite not having any vowels? < 1475097809 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English tends not to use such words but that's not for any particular reason AFAIK < 1475097847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, because I don't speak czech, so I can't pronounce those. < 1475097877 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they say that in some languages, the "r" and the "l" can be syllable nucleuses, and that in some English dialects too < 1475097884 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in my dialect though < 1475097895 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's simply a physical matter of pronounciation mechanics, not a dialect thing < 1475097902 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's physically possible to prolong an l or an f indefinitely < 1475097905 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it is with vowels < 1475097909 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the letters aren't normally used like that < 1475097927 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few English words that use the principle, but mostly onomatopoeia like "mmm" < 1475097943 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it is a dialect thing, because I don't pronunce it in any English word, but some people do in some English words < 1475097962 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't see why it wouldn't be a dialect thing < 1475097967 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :unio-ni-ze < 1475097971 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475097974 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very Fail < 1475097987 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some languages require that in some words, namely at least croatian and czech, both of which are infamous of vowel-less tongue-twisters < 1475097989 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what do i expect using a Hyphenator for the wrong Language? ☺ < 1475098014 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: that hyphenation does look right < 1475098020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's merely a fact of the phoneme in question < 1475098023 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it can be prolonged < 1475098029 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait < 1475098031 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is independent of what words it does or doesn't appear in < 1475098032 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unio-ni-ze? < 1475098034 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wrong < 1475098036 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1475098041 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1475098043 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1475098156 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I'd feel comfortable hyphenating the plumber version of that word anywhere < 1475098170 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the scientist version hyphenates quite neatly after un-) < 1475098176 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is the plumber version? < 1475098182 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I was going to hyphenate the plumber version it'd have to be union-ize < 1475098183 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the scientist version? < 1475098257 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: plumber is "unionize" as in "create au nion" < 1475098281 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scientist is "un-ionize" as in "remove ions from" (although "deionize", "reduce ions in", is more idiomatic, probably because you can't physically get all of them) < 1475098289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* create a union < 1475098291 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1475098302 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475098318 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so by scientist one, you mean the chemical science one, not the mathematics one < 1475098332 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1475098341 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how are these pronounced? < 1475098376 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no surprises if you can pronounce "ion" and "union" < 1475098481 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I said the "plumbers'" one is /"jU,nj@,naIz/, but that's probably wrong, it is more likely /"ju:,nj@,naIz/ (I'll check the dictionary later), < 1475098525 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iirc "ion" is pronounced as /"ai,@n/, like iron, but I could be wrong, so it would be /Vn,"ai,@,naIz/ < 1475098541 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see the dictionary < 1475098614 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Longman says /"ju:nI@naIz/ < 1475098710 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the /I@/ is meant to be the "here" diphtongue or two syllables in that < 1475098737 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475098739 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably two syllables, because it gives "u-ni-on-ize" as the syllables in the spelling < 1475098780 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish oh well, not much difference between those < 1475098918 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Oxford gives no pronunciation, and has only the plumber meaning too < 1475099050 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, ion is pronounced as /"aI,@n/, I remembered right < 1475100282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475100358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 5 stages of grief are kicking in. Now seems like a good time to study them. < 1475100364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-poud < 1475100364 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 7h 15m 43s ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinomial_theorem#Multinomial_coefficients < 1475101364 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doot < 1475101371 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pyc < 1475101372 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Argument expected for the '-c' option | usage: /bin/pypy-c [options] | Try `/bin/pypy-c -h` for more information. | [Subprocess exit code: 2] | < 1475101374 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1475101394 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses the enter bar for being too close to a diffrent character
< 1475101614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475102077 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :']\ < 1475102109 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475102181 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475102526 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi int-e < 1475102551 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475103107 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475103158 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1475103183 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475103267 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475103286 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475103441 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475103486 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475103649 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475103663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475103681 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475103683 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb & wb < 1475103690 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :& wb < 1475103862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloonythedwarf_... < 1475104156 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475104732 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js 1+1 < 1475104732 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1475104733 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] } } < 1475106131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my teaqers from last year died yesterday... < 1475106149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ʃe was... 20s, MAYBE early 30s. < 1475106154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found out today. < 1475106383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ʃe was very nice, ðe kind of person who'd acknowledge my terrible jokes and was very accommodatiŋ when I broke ðe unspoken rules (e.g. "Don't interrupt people")... ʃe was ðe one who used segments from What If? as homework... < 1475106470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric : < 1475106473 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your text is messed up. < 1475106485 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you not using ASCII/UTF-8? < 1475106915 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: I fall back on my crazy bonus letter alphabet occasionally. I have to consciously tell myself to type with normal english on #esoteric < 1475107082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475107149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloerjan < 1475107173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Is the 'j' in 'oerjan' a /j/ sound? )
< 1475107192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1475107212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, yeppavilion[1] < 1475107710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/²øɾjɑn/, that is. < 1475107863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1475107883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/²œɾjɑn/ < 1475107969 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Caught SIGINT < 1475107998 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475108015 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475108040 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone found flaws in pcg random? http://www.pcg-random.org < 1475108827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You don't need an infinite number of monkeys to produce the works of Shakespeare; 2^524288 is ample." < 1475108990 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475109019 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475109319 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475109390 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475110162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we use the system SI+¤, where ¤ is defined as the value of one gram of gold- currently USD 42.42291 (calculated as cost of 1 kg/100) (eq. EUR 37.92), what are the interpretations of powers of ¤? < 1475110184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(henceforth ¤ has the symbol 'u' from 'au') < 1475111188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ¤² would be the unit for evil hth < 1475111207 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475111213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1475111220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grins
< 1475111221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.8 shachafs. < 1475111362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#esoteric-style SI uses the base units Metre (m), Gram (g), Second (s), Ampere (A), Kelvin (K), Candela (cd), Mole (mol), Currency (u), and Shachafs (sh)) < 1475111383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Quality of a comedian is measured in sh/u < 1475111405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shucking < 1475111479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, you have the capitalization backwards, it should be shachaf (Sh) < 1475111488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1475111520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fully written SI units are never capitalized < 1475111550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the abbreviation gets capitalized if it's from a person. < 1475111570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But what's the rule if it's a person whose name isn't capitalized? < 1475111593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll nuke that bridge when we come to it < 1475111644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure shachaf (huh, he's not here) capitalizes his name outside irc < 1475111688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Capitalizes 'shachaf' or his irl name? Or is he named 'Shachaf' (or something closely related) IRL? < 1475111692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's also rather unusual for a unit to be from the first name... < 1475111701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1475111795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There were 3 options. Which is the latter? < 1475111822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess latter COULD work with arbitrarily many options, always meaning the last one? And if there's only one option, the latter is the same as the former) < 1475111884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess it'd either be Sh or S (probably not S because sieverts) < 1475111919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's named Shachaf hth < 1475111961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh. < 1475111977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not realize Shachaf was a given name. < 1475112050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Shahaf' is a Hebrew given name. Apparently related to "seagull" < 1475112059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Seacull? < 1475112271 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475112538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well it's the same in hebrew. the transliteration may differ. < 1475113139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in modern israeli hebrew, it's pronounced like the german ch, but it used to be closer to (but not the same as) h, and still is in a few dialects. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth#Hebrew_.E1.B8.A4et < 1475113168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1475113321 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bmbfasgkecsdbcgr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475113382 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ftytiknytuanmouv JOIN :#esoteric < 1475115473 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Candelas are such poo < 1475116540 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475116770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475119177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475119220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: byechaf < 1475119475 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1475119565 0 :iovoid!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475119588 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :Guest92574 < 1475119669 0 :Guest92574!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com QUIT :Changing host < 1475119669 0 :Guest92574!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1475119693 0 :Guest92574!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1475120653 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475121902 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-171-96-190-248.revip8.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1475122640 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475122970 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1475123011 0 :iovoid!iovoid@1.ipv6.aegir.superbnc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475123031 0 :iovoid!iovoid@1.ipv6.aegir.superbnc.com QUIT :Changing host < 1475123031 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1475123477 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475123776 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-171-96-190-248.revip8.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475124432 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475124432 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475124882 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 612 seconds < 1475124925 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1475126034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might seem unethical to win world war II by advancing across europe under cover of a nuclear bombing every 7 days, but hey, I'm sure hitler has done something worse < 1475128366 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475128428 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475128506 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475128512 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475128811 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-223-24-52-53.revip6.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1475130200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475130214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the traditional someone-died-and-we're-all-very-sad songs? < 1475130289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only properly-traditional one I know is Auld Lang Syne, though Days Gone Bye (the Pony version designed so small children aren't confused) could count < 1475130300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Long Live the Queen by Frank Turner SHOULD be traditional... < 1475130321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented pice | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475130738 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ftytiknytuanmouv QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475131101 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@ppp-223-24-52-53.revip6.asianet.co.th QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475131241 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kxypmlwqynpstlwa JOIN :#esoteric < 1475131399 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475131724 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475132385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...new Macgyver. < 1475132386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1475133470 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475134001 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475134134 0 :atehwa_!?@? NICK :atehwa < 1475134942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the Hedgehog was only domesticated in the 1980s < 1475135199 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475135587 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1475136039 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, have you been playing hearts of iron < 1475137697 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475137707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something wrong with http://suprah2.com/about-us < 1475137772 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that there's at least one fact there < 1475137800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: '980‰ water' < 1475137856 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it again and I'm not so sure about there being a single fact < 1475137870 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I know :P < 1475138327 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], doubling the hydrogen is probably safer than doubling the oxygen < 1475138368 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Who's doubling? < 1475138374 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :suprah2 < 1475138376 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what H4O would do, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be pretty < 1475138398 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo, I'm not sure it's physically possible < 1475138449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1475138521 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, pretty sure it isn't, and if it is, it's some crazy intermediate < 1475138685 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you double the oxygen in each molecule, you're not going to have a very fun time drinking it < 1475138795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh I see < 1475139420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475139422 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475139454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475140776 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475141151 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475141200 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475141431 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1475143121 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475143207 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii JOIN :#esoteric < 1475143896 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475144370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Japanese games used to tell you characters' blood types because (some of) the Japanese believe that determines personality < 1475144373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...somehow) < 1475144382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just A/B/AB/O; Rh is irrelephant < 1475144530 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm O < 1475144553 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], it's certainly a lot less illogical than astrology < 1475144656 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it can affect your chances of getting/having/not dying from certain diseases < 1475144669 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a far cry from personalites < 1475144886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475145211 0 :crawler!~crawler@80.93.235.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475145220 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475145220 0 :crawler!~crawler@80.93.235.42 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1475145283 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo, an awful lot closer than rocks millions of miles away < 1475145287 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, it's still a bit odd < 1475145995 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: if some comics or so introduce a fictitious discovery that _does_ prove some linkage between blood types and personality, then I would say it is reasonable :p < 1475146000 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise meh < 1475146071 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"some of" < 1475146110 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1475146118 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, reasonable for those works) < 1475146122 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say it is as popular as that birthday bullshit < 1475146155 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the very congratulation of birthdays? < 1475146186 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the belief that the date of birth somehiw determines your character < 1475146199 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is nonsense < 1475146201 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, bio-rhythm bullshit etc < 1475146268 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost imaginable that the season in which you were born could determine how you were brought up in the first few months, but really, it doesn't matter that much < 1475146328 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: I've heard that there indeed is a correlation, but to be frank it's mostly a problem of the inflexible education schedule < 1475146476 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, at least in my school there were people about 10 to 12 months apart in the same grade, which could definitely cause differences < 1475147997 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475148028 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: the blood type thing was the latest fad for a few years in Europe too. in fact, I assumed it came from Europe. < 1475148076 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, I don't really understand how they work, because most people don't even know what their blood type is until they donate blood or have a serious surgery. < 1475148091 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: do not underestimate the role of Japan in the world of superstitions... < 1475148107 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most recently, "hydrogen water" (ugh) < 1475148126 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475148208 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475148243 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, from an internet search, apparently there might be two different blood type superstitons, a western one and a Japanese one, although they could eventually relate < 1475148263 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for magical water, there are lots of different ones sold here. < 1475148463 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mineral water with various compositions, stinky sulphur water from hot springs, acidic drinking water, water with supposedly reduced deuterium content, pí-víz (whatever that means), ordinary tap water bottled under fancy expensive names, ordinary water for homeopathy in tiny glass jars, < 1475148490 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and various magical water filters for filtering tap water at your home too < 1475148512 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and soda water too of course < 1475148562 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and these tap machines that give you water from a 50 liter water bulb brought there the dirty way with trucks instead of through pipes < 1475148740 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1475148874 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475149125 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/xP5-iIeKXE8 so meta < 1475149185 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: so when would there be a self-populating metapixel in life? :) < 1475149409 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask hppavilion[1] pice? < 1475149409 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475149887 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475149985 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7z9i0kv4erg96.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475150580 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475150584 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1475150584 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 17h 57m 51s ago: reminder that i'll be at niagara in a week and a half. < 1475150586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers//Numbers: 0, 848, 1344, 1696, 1969, 2192, _, 2544, 2688, 2817, _, 3040, _, _, 3313, 3392, ... < 1475150619 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/numbers < 1475150622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse tswett < 1475150747 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 848,1344,1696 < 1475150750 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1475152208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Manufactoria14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49811&oldid=39424 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+18) 10 < 1475152229 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BLADE CHICKEN < 1475152446 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475153280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Simplefunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49812&oldid=41458 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+25) 10 < 1475154280 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475154375 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475155438 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475156785 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475156787 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1475157285 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475158454 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475158821 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:7dba:1b55:8d06:53b4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475160116 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475161345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475161752 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475162093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented bleence | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475162552 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1475162597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hih i < 1475162849 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475162907 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘ < 1475162909 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Hello92+4*84*World92+3*............. < 1475162909 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475162925 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made hello world in a esolang im working on, just for proof of concept < 1475162930 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be smaller < 1475163013 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how a quine would be made
< 1475163045 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475163053 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1475163111 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475163135 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi `^_^v < 1475163150 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi moonythedwarf < 1475163350 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Moon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49813 5* 03Moon 5* (+15) 10Created page with "This is my page" < 1475163363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49814 5* 03Moon 5* (+91) 10Created page with "'''Gravbox''' is a 2 dimensional esolang with a concept of gravity created by [[User:Moon]]" < 1475163367 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp wrong button < 1475163369 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1475163382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : But if you double the oxygen in each molecule, you're not going to have a very fun time drinking it <-- i have this vague memory of using H2O2 for some medical purpose once. Possibly it was for my teeth. < 1475163402 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty good disinfectant, i think. < 1475163560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps was for cleaning that dental plate i used... < 1475163564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it was < 1475163620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 92 < 1475163623 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\\' < 1475163643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 44 < 1475163645 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ',' < 1475163734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: are you sure that hello world isn't backwards? < 1475163775 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's a strong bleach < 1475163799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1475163805 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So teeth makes sense < 1475163887 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :two chemists walk into a bar < 1475163903 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one asks for some H2O < 1475163926 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second one says that he would like some H2O, too < 1475163931 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second one promptly dies < 1475163980 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, your right! < 1475163989 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp de derp < 1475164131 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘ < 1475164132 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@92+3*dlroW84*92+4*olleH.............~ < 1475164132 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475164134 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. fixed < 1475164695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49815&oldid=49814 5* 03Moon 5* (+1792) 10Finished documentation < 1475164705 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doot there thats what i got so far. < 1475164820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49816&oldid=49815 5* 03Moon 5* (+96) 10 < 1475164975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49817&oldid=49816 5* 03Moon 5* (+46) 10 < 1475165119 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives oerjan e=a thanks for pointing out my Hello, World! program in gravbox was backwards
< 1475165219 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes off to try and prove Turing Completeness
< 1475165265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: with only a stack, you will need to use unbounded integers for that hth < 1475165281 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _is_ unbounded < 1475165349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. something like fractran might be reasonably easy to compile to this. < 1475165358 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49818&oldid=49817 5* 03Moon 5* (+33) 10 < 1475165419 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :first question for myself: how would i reverse the order of the stack? < 1475165435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's precisely the thing that's impossible. < 1475165452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1475165466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need to convert the entire stack to a godel numbering. < 1475165476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd work. < 1475165523 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. maybe that would work using duplicate to make the division undistructive... < 1475165533 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i think you could make a stack inside the stack < 1475165613 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@99*9*^91+91+*/ < 1475165613 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475165623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you have too few stack operations, you cannot get below the top element without destroying info < 1475165647 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, how about a rotate? move top of stack to bottom or bottom to top < 1475165671 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how could i change one of the instructions to do it? < 1475165675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would give you a queue, which should be plenty for tc-ness. < 1475165702 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even without using unbounded numbers < 1475165748 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be a good operation to keep the stack? < 1475165751 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet be TC < 1475165791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think possibly all you need is a swap operation, given clever enough arithmetic < 1475165806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(swap top two elements) < 1475165851 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. ok. adding.... < 1475165867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be enough to pair elements into one while keeping all info in them, theoretically (but awkwardly) < 1475165871 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks oerjan < 1475165898 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :next up i need to think up a conditional loop < 1475165941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49819&oldid=49818 5* 03Moon 5* (+48) 10Added the : instruction, thanks Oerjan! < 1475166030 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: simply being able to be compiled from/to a TC language is enough right? < 1475166031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this language seems designed to confuse underloaders < 1475166043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: from, yep. < 1475166047 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh? unintentional. :P < 1475166078 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just trying to avoid using any letters for commands. < 1475166091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: ^:% are :~! in underload < 1475166091 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the a-z/A-Z part works < 1475166111 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol didnt notice < 1475166175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling _to_ a TC language is just not being uncomputable, which your language pretty obviously fulfils so far. < 1475166245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49820&oldid=49819 5* 03Moon 5* (+109) 10Added Categorys < 1475166346 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soo if i compile underload to Gravbox, its turing complete.. < 1475166361 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just a example < 1475166365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1475166378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still think fractran will be simpler) < 1475166409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, assuming / is integer division. < 1475166427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er | < 1475166429 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | is integer division, im thinking up a encoding scheme < 1475166442 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ and / are deflectors < 1475166493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the thing about fractran is you don't really need any encoding. < 1475166528 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, to store the data, remember : < 1475166537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1475166572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran generally wants something like 2^n*3^m*5^k < 1475166592 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this here is to store '13' and give space for another 2 digit number: 91+3+91+91+** < 1475166610 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly its a bit.. fat < 1475166620 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :91+ == 10 < 1475166650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use base 9 < 1475166671 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks
< 1475166704 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if i want to change the base < 1475166724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: i mean for encoding, it'll avoid all those 91+ < 1475166751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 becomes just 49+ < 1475166799 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1475166826 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :49+91+91+** < 1475166834 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrinks it by 2 characters < 1475166837 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475166841 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough for me < 1475166872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if you also use a-zA-Z, you can probably compress things but it'll be strangely irregular < 1475166885 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm makes sense too < 1475166898 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it will be text encoding sensitive < 1475166915 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e ascii a is diffrent from utf-8 a ( i think ) < 1475166919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1475166934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the same, ascii is a subset of utf-8 by design < 1475166942 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok good < 1475167008 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1475168102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475168153 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm not sure if HOI4 ever ends. I have a game that's almost reached 1952 < 1475168582 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No enemy bomber can reach the Ruhr. If one reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Göring. You may call me Meyer. -Hermann Meyer < 1475169166 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back' < 1475169247 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: even better encoding of 13 into a group: 49+91+^** < 1475169296 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language is that? Befunge? < 1475169333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, there wouldn't be a reason for the second * there < 1475169348 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :New esolang :P im tyring to prove the turing completeness of Gravbox (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gravbox) < 1475169374 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats 13*100, making space for another 2 digit number < 1475169440 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to figure out how to implent Fractran, which oerjan said would probably be the most easy to implent < 1475169511 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have any ideas? < 1475169526 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't looked at the language yet < 1475169537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: mind you, i did say compiling, not interpreting. < 1475169540 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellais523 < 1475169582 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1475169596 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh lol < 1475169597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1475169601 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pretty sure that is possible < 1475169603 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1475169615 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloonythedwarf < 1475169629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :much easier than interpreting, i think < 1475169633 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not explained all that clearly < 1475169633 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that commands run when a ball passes over them? < 1475169642 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct. sorry ill make that more clear < 1475169672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49821&oldid=49820 5* 03Moon 5* (+37) 10 < 1475169714 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the stack a stack of bignums? if not, a TCness proof is much harder < 1475169740 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I kind-of like the version of the language where you have to send balls into the blankness around the program in order to store data < 1475169863 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i never made a variation? < 1475169880 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: the language doesn't specify the stack width < 1475169886 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's highly relevant here < 1475169893 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp sorry. < 1475169897 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering two versions of the language, one where it's a bignum, the other where it's bounded < 1475169910 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it is stated. its unbounded values < 1475169919 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wise. the stack always starts with a single 0 and has no bounds on number size < 1475169926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, you actually _might_ be able to store info in such balls... < 1475169940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would need essential use of the gravity, too < 1475169947 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm ill consider it. < 1475169955 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravity _is_ the point of it. < 1475170017 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: < 1475170019 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :* `>`: Take a item off the top of the stack and store it in a ball. < 1475170020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm might be tricky though < 1475170021 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :* `<`: Take the item in a ball and store it in the stack. < 1475170022 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it'd probably work best if you had two balls at opposite sides of the program, the distance between them stores one value < 1475170028 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you use the height of the stack fo the toher < 1475170058 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you are thinking of oerjan? < 1475170063 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just a example btw < 1475170064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the somewhat tricky part is that all the balls fall in the same direction < 1475170072 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1475170072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc < 1475170072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know < 1475170083 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you have two balls at opposite sides to store one piece of data < 1475170112 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i dont get it. plus. you can have more than 2 balls < 1475170113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1475170164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems awkward to control many balls outside the main program area < 1475170166 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I know, but you can't move balls independently of each other < 1475170170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 2 might work. < 1475170199 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < and > make stack manip much easier but don't seem to add any computational power, whether you're using bignums or smallnums < 1475170246 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea i dunno if i will make balls store values < 1475170282 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely not, as that could be considered a wimpmode :P < 1475170345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is that what you are thinking of oerjan? <-- i certainly wasn't imagining adding a new command for it. that sounds too easy. < 1475170358 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well what _Are_ you thinking of? < 1475170387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just manipulating balls with clever use of gravity adjustments and #s < 1475170409 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to store values? hmm possible using clever tricks < 1475170423 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the _current definitions_ < 1475170527 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ais523: so whats your view on the possibility of Gravbox being turing complete? < 1475170550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i already said, i think you can compile fractran to it, with bignums. < 1475170569 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm less sure how easy ais523's idea is. < 1475170587 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it probably is, even without bignums < 1475170601 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that actually getting it to work will be very difficult < 1475170621 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still wants proof, and will work towards a proof of concept
< 1475170628 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because the control flow "inside" the porgram is affected by the data flow outside the program, as they're both based on the same gravity < 1475170657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's why you certainly need to use # < 1475170666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1475170669 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added walls for a reason :P < 1475170711 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, i think someone clever would realise \/ has the same function as a wall if gravity is going down for example < 1475170729 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it could be done _without_ walls < 1475170742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's a bit confusing < 1475170758 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying \/ do _not_ change gravity? < 1475170765 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1475170778 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they simply send the ball to the side < 1475170818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49822&oldid=49821 5* 03Moon 5* (+56) 10Confusion fix < 1475170851 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ball that falls down onto a / will go left. and continue falling down < 1475170883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. btw what happens if it falls onto it from below >:) < 1475170900 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will go to the right and continue going up < 1475170914 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to be smarter: to the ball's left < 1475170942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's the ball's right < 1475170948 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475170951 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then "{ < 1475170953 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1475170960 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to change moar < 1475170987 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, dont forget the & instruction (: < 1475170988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the description seems to assume falling down < 1475170994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1475171010 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you have a better description, please change it < 1475171058 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475171121 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :9:%~ stack at start: [0], stack at end: [9] < 1475171333 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION personally hopes oerjan might help a bit more with turing complete proof. because im stuck trying to figure out a implentation
< 1475171349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1475171409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking with ais523's idea, it might be enough with two balls, one inside the program area and one (usually) outside it. < 1475171450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can store one register in the latter, and one in the stack depth, as he said, which is enough to do a 2-reg minsky machine (or indirectly, fractran) < 1475171458 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the point of the one outside ot? < 1475171470 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how would the one outside it store data? < 1475171480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :its distance from the program stores one natural number. < 1475171501 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how would we retreive that number? < 1475171505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there'll be a @ at the edge the program that it'll occasionally hit when its 0. < 1475171517 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the only interaction it needs, i think. < 1475171529 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will need to be walled in. < 1475171535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1475171544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's _supposed_ to roam free. < 1475171560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise there's no way to store unbounded data in it. < 1475171570 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1475171587 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if it runs into the program? it will break the program < 1475171602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it can only hit the @ when the other ball is at the opposite edge of the program, at a specific point. < 1475171632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the program will be designed so that never happens. < 1475171642 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well first i need to come up with more example programs. i dunno if a quine is actually possible < 1475171642 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea is for the @ at the edge to only run back and forth along a specific line < 1475171653 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: if the language is TC, it is < 1475171666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but may require embedding an interpreter for some other language in it < 1475171709 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if letting the program run a command on the stack would be a good idea
< 1475171727 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks no
< 1475171739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: if you want to go for the fractran-with-unbounded-numbers tc proof instead, that should be easier. < 1475171755 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant find a accurate documentation of fractan < 1475171759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a quine might be awkward. < 1475171767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: on the wiki? < 1475171786 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its slightly unclear to me < 1475171801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Fractran < 1475171839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all in the second paragraph, really. < 1475171874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475171961 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As an enlightened individual I know that the Islam is not the root of all evil; it's the Catholic church." < 1475171981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds englightened.. < 1475171985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-g < 1475171992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid lag < 1475172046 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475172162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect a quine will be somewhat large, because the language has very awkward (aka you have to design it yourself) string handling < 1475172187 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love tp see a quine in funciton < 1475172192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so none of the shortcuts will work. < 1475172196 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be glorious as fuck < 1475172241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :word. < 1475172311 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess quines in 2d languages are quite hard in comparisson, aren't they? < 1475172321 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, is there even a quine for befunge? < 1475172344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well befunge has program reading capability < 1475172357 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no cheating quines, please < 1475172360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think it's impossible even without using that < 1475172383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has reasonable string handling < 1475172412 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1475172431 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funciton has string handling, but it seems kinda limited < 1475172442 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but well, just print out the string functions, too < 1475172483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Al Dente examples14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49823&oldid=46228 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+244) 10added correct addition code < 1475172584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1475172587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475172596 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475172663 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475172822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475174462 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475174704 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the least esoteric language on the wiki < 1475174730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most exoteric language? < 1475174755 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :french < 1475174874 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475174880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, http://esolangs.org/wiki/BANCStar wasn't meant to be esoteric. < 1475174920 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in practice I rather suspect it's less known than Brainfuck. < 1475175000 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode COBOL < 1475175004 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doot < 1475175007 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475175009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C] [U+004F LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O] [U+0042 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B] [U+004F LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O] [U+004C LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L] < 1475175044 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/COBOL ... why the name... < 1475175054 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-088-116.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475175147 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-088-116.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475175316 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1475175528 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course there are a few that are really mathematical in spirit, like Fractran < 1475175643 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475175654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not esoteric? < 1475175751 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :More aiming at the "language" part, and also playing advocatus diaboli. < 1475175801 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475175803 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since I accept Fractran to be a programming language, actually.) < 1475175815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :avocadus di aioli < 1475176111 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475176278 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475176343 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1475176504 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475176582 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes the dead bodies littering the channel
< 1475176584 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel's dead < 1475176615 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rumors of this channel's untimely demise have been greatly exaggerated < 1475176631 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host86-144-16-251.range86-144.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475176646 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Channel's significantly less dead than it was in, say, 2005-2007. Not to mention the 2003-2004 era, which doesn't even register. < 1475176695 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avocadus d'aglio < 1475176773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, people don't have to be talking all the time. < 1475176791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if, when they do talk, it's just high noise and no signal. < 1475176809 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, someone saying "avocadus d'aglio" adds no value to the channel < 1475176824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of "channel's dead" < 1475176829 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too < 1475176852 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was taking the opportunity to poke fun of myself at providing more noise than signal < 1475176866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "d'aglio" was so bad. < 1475176873 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But look at me, with my aioli. < 1475176873 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think you're providing more noise than signal. < 1475176892 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: (Well that sounded funnier in my head than it probably is.) < 1475176904 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm mixing Latin and Italian quite horribly < 1475176912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are pretty much the same language. < 1475176932 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also adding French. < 1475176941 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call my D&D character < 1475176942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "aioli" etymologically related to "aglio"? < 1475176960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"French, from Provençal ai ‘garlic’ + oli ‘oil.’" < 1475176964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the answer is maybe. < 1475177500 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475177549 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475177729 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: depending on who you ask, maybe Perl? < 1475177983 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475178029 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Changing host < 1475178029 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1475178029 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475178070 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475178308 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, why don't we program a bot to say something random every half hour to make the channel seem more alive? < 1475178431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, does that sound good to you? < 1475178433 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: because it's the wrong kind of life. < 1475178513 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know about you but my client has a visual indicator for channel activity and it would be sad if that indicator became (more) meaningless) < 1475178524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been attempting to modify tcc to allow unicode in identifiers < 1475178588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan a buch of modifications that will make a version of C that is more modern < 1475178600 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bunch < 1475178602 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many is a buch? < 1475178605 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1475178756 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, no-got. < 1475178763 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, hppavilion[2^H1], i plan to: allow %, <<, and >> to be used on floats < 1475178791 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475178794 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There-got. < 1475178809 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun-got < 1475178851 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1475178851 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: use microsoft hotmail doe that disables middle-click? < 1475178861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1475178861 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1475178861 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :add the <=> operator < 1475178875 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a prng that can fast forward n states in less than O(log n) time? < 1475178877 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: isn't hotmail dead though? < 1475178877 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: could i also have a few choice bits on dabbrev-expand. < 1475178892 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sure, 1010001110101111 < 1475178892 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and it sort-of faded into the background to deal with that in mind. < 1475178918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhungotn < 1475178923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1475178923 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 8h 11m 54s ago: pice? < 1475178940 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :add the use of unless, until, and forever blocks < 1475178941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily pice = pi times < 1475178942 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475178954 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: what's your complexity model? < 1475178964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Ph'nglui < 1475178965 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: despite the font the recipes seem rather good. i don't think < 1475178967 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: pi < 1475178970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^mode < 1475178974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1475178974 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1475178978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add ^^, logical XOR < 1475178981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1475178981 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1475178989 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: didn't expect that question, why is it relevant? < 1475178991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, style=fungot? Wat? < 1475178992 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: np. you could write your own cons. what chandler just said. but minion would put an s there? you're still agreeing about facts. :p < 1475179003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1475179003 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1475179004 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I mean, typically I'd say that one needs O(log n) space to encode n, and hence O(log n) operations to even look at n. < 1475179014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you think of the Nemo Point? < 1475179014 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: with other chiefs a little apart from the growing throng. once i thought even the pounding sea seemed afraid of something, and when toward the small object on the opposite wall. < 1475179035 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style diskworld < 1475179035 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1475179039 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i just need to advance the internal state of a prng < 1475179041 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style discworld < 1475179042 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: discworld (a subset of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books) < 1475179046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second sentence is either an exact quote or a REALLY good coincidence < 1475179049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: -_- < 1475179051 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1475179052 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: the jug glugged, but with the air of one who has to wave the bag of nappies, and the chuck keys for electric drills.) < 1475179072 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's fixed size < 1475179103 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously there are some prngs that can compute it in less than O(log n) < 1475179124 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to write down my ideas for extended C somewhere < 1475179127 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int rand () { static int i = 1234; return i++; } < 1475179146 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So O(1) then. Anyway, no, I don't know anything better. I imagine that those that can do it on O(log n) are based on some clever linear transformations and square and multiply. < 1475179164 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's correct < 1475179199 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475179201 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lastval^2)/timeInMS()%timeInNS() < 1475179440 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about an operator like a<-b that just means *a=b < 1475179466 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, that would cause lexer conflicts < 1475179482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475179662 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that operator's normally called := < 1475179672 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that would work < 1475179674 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think lexes unambiguously < 1475179722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::= normally means dereferencing assignment? < 1475179740 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it means "assign the value on the right to the name on the left" < 1475179749 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in C, a pointer is the closest thing you have to a name < 1475179769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475179770 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :C goes to great length to define "lvalues" in its standard < 1475179785 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has references which are even closer, though < 1475179794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ goes to much greater length to define all sorts of values. < 1475179802 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in other news, "name" being a technical term is very confusing) < 1475179806 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :references are just an annoying version of pointers < 1475179812 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so C's a = b is :=, to my mind. < 1475179823 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lvalues, rvalues, glvalues, xvalues, prvalues < 1475179835 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a = b would be something different, as shachaf suggested < 1475179885 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well C uses a rather dubious naming convention < 1475179916 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think the lack of ^^ is totally embarrasing < 1475179916 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell something's wrong because unary & exists and doesn't stack < 1475179973 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in mathematical languages which have C-like assignment, the typical syntax (using C-like syntax) for C's "a = b" would be "a := *b", and "a := b" would translate to C as "a = &b" < 1475179974 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1475180010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. no. < 1475180022 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = 1; var y = 2; x := y < 1475180034 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475180038 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = 1; var y = 2; x := y < 1475180038 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SyntaxError: Unexpected token =] < 1475180045 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = 1; var y = 2; x : y < 1475180046 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1475180046 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function], | EventEmitter: [Function], | AssertionError: [Function], | assert: { [Function] equal: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] }, | x: 1, | y: 2 } < 1475180051 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = 1; var y = 2; x:y < 1475180052 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1475180052 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function], | EventEmitter: [Function], | AssertionError: [Function], | assert: { [Function] equal: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] }, | x: 1, | y: 2 } < 1475180057 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = 1; var y = 2; x?x:y < 1475180057 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1475180057 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function], | EventEmitter: [Function], | AssertionError: [Function], | assert: { [Function] equal: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] }, | x: 1, | y: 2 } < 1475180060 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = 1; var y = 2; j?x:y < 1475180060 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ReferenceError: j is not defined] < 1475180068 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = 1; var y = 2; var j?x:y < 1475180069 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SyntaxError: Unexpected token ?] < 1475180074 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah because a lot of languages have this stupid thing where you can't actually modify values, you instead change what references refer to, and it's optimized into actual calculations afterward < 1475180121 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js new Buffer("\\oren\\") < 1475180122 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1475180122 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function], | EventEmitter: [Function], | AssertionError: [Function], | assert: { [Function] equal: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] } } < 1475180150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make an insult in Cthuvian < 1475180175 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js new Buffer("\\oren\\").alloc(-7) < 1475180175 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'split' of undefined] < 1475180192 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = new Buffer("\\oren\\"); x.alloc(-1); x < 1475180193 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'split' of undefined] < 1475180195 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = new Buffer("\\oren\\"); x.alloc(-1); < 1475180195 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'split' of undefined] < 1475180197 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = new Buffer("\\oren\\"); x.alloc(-1); 1 < 1475180197 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'split' of undefined] < 1475180209 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = new Buffer("\\oren\\"); x.alloc(1); 1 < 1475180209 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TypeError: Cannot read property 'split' of undefined] < 1475180214 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = new Buffer("\\oren\\"); x.alloc(-1,"hi"); 1 < 1475180214 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1475180215 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function], | EventEmitter: [Function], | AssertionError: [Function], | assert: { [Function] equal: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] }, | x: | { data: [ '5c', '6f', '72', '65', '6e', '5c' ], | toString: [Function], | alloc: [Function] } } < 1475180217 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = new Buffer("\\oren\\"); x.alloc(-1,"hi") < 1475180217 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1475180218 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function], | EventEmitter: [Function], | AssertionError: [Function], | assert: { [Function] equal: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] }, | x: | { data: [ '5c', '6f', '72', '65', '6e', '5c' ], | toString: [Function], | alloc: [Function] } } < 1475180219 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1475180222 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var x = new Buffer("\\oren\\"); x.alloc(-19,"hi") < 1475180222 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1475180222 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function], | EventEmitter: [Function], | AssertionError: [Function], | assert: { [Function] equal: [Function] }, | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] }, | x: | { data: [ '5c', '6f', '72', '65', '6e', '5c' ], | toString: [Function], | alloc: [Function] } } < 1475180231 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherbot, moonythedwarf: get a room! < 1475180235 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1475180248 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION head back to othetbot's chan
< 1475180251 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try using /msg otherbot < 1475180291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: Please spam elsewhere < 1475180291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1475180300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already did < 1475180307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, the insult is hupadgh'fhalmanyth nilgh'ri'bthnk < 1475180321 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes hppavilion[1] for telling me to spam elsewhere when i already am
< 1475180328 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im deeply offended hppavilion[1]! < 1475180336 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1475180339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent... < 1475180360 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feeds it to google translate
< 1475180361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lit: born of mother servant of everthing body; intended meaning: your mother is a whore) < 1475180380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: Google Translate doesn't know R'lyehian < 1475180418 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does google translate have elvish yet even? < 1475180454 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does hackego know spanish yet even? < 1475180476 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ghas esperanto, which is almost as fictional < 1475180497 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --spanish 10 < 1475180503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flex xan auseudo jeffolucie modim weldeos reústrar ferestruile himko fuérativa < 1475180515 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --fizzie10 < 1475180516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: fizzie10 < 1475180519 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --fizzie 10 < 1475180521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: fizzie < 1475180536 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --quenya 10 < 1475180538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: quenya < 1475180538 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --latin 10 < 1475180538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a surprise, a big screenful of bot spam < 1475180539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: latin < 1475180555 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --hebrew 10 < 1475180560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​הפםיק הלוגים ולפרה במעקרי ייענו וסו כשמתיר ויזיוו יספרו האגיעות < 1475180561 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --greek 10 < 1475180563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: greek < 1475180569 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --russian 10 < 1475180574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: stahp < 1475180578 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1475180579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` words --list # please check the list instead < 1475180581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​медхедететя перевне продскатеы нигоршяхъ сопаевкамъ фиклообр проненасе негланные велите геразду < 1475180584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1475180602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --canadian-english-insane 10 < 1475180606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazedearlyleterm neuropical unprovidular robracter ponsligh bunoplanapproom microco aralina azalistop outseleotion < 1475180612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also please use /msg < 1475180613 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe in "-теы" < 1475180631 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "хъ" for that matter. < 1475180667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh'e'bthnknyth < 1475180715 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1475180736 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: do you to take the ridiculous job of porting NodeJS non-SO-binding-dependant core modules to otherbot's sandbox? Its just some thousand lines and an event loop < 1475180751 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1475180754 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thanks < 1475181029 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ויזיוו <- "uiziuu"? doesn't sound very triliteral < 1475181083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trifigurative < 1475181086 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's "vizivu"? < 1475181113 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475181119 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc ו can be used as "u" or "v" < 1475181131 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in latin < 1475181174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475181264 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --hebrew 10 < 1475181270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​הזמ כשנשק והחלט ומיות החסש ובהשקה מאמת מעמ המצו מוב < 1475181307 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --polish < 1475181311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :garnicerko < 1475181316 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --polish 10 < 1475181323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wywanaragen nie odwiskowalistów słuczem nieanty tłoczeszno smakrępowyko znego błyszartecha piernitówkowadzani < 1475181633 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :[io] < 1475181662 0 :[io]!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1475181778 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :[io] < 1475181780 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475181783 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1475181783 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1475181783 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1475181799 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475181800 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475181824 0 :[io]!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1475181881 0 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1475182084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475182117 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475182196 0 :Yurume_____!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475182200 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475182202 0 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475182203 0 :Yurume____!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475182362 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1475182699 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1475182710 0 :Yurume_____!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Read error: Network is unreachable < 1475182788 0 :Yurume_____!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475183181 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kxypmlwqynpstlwa QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475183349 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475183397 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kryojcdmxyydwudd JOIN :#esoteric < 1475183597 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475183857 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently "sick" is another of those words that have different meanings on the two sides of the ocean: in American it primarily means ill (in the sense of having an acute health problem), but in British it means nauseous < 1475183878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In American slang it also means good, I think. < 1475183880 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moooo < 1475183890 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This explains a lot. I know it had two different meanings that seem contradictory, but I didn't realize it was a continent thing like "pants". < 1475183890 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it can mean either nauseous or vomiting, in the UK < 1475183897 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as a noun, it's a synonym for "vomit" < 1475183908 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes wob_jonas in the wob_jonas
< 1475183912 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"feeling sick" means nauseous, though (because vomiting is an action rather than a feeling) < 1475183917 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok < 1475183941 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just use "ill" and hope Americans understand it too? < 1475183963 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to bother with words that require a dialect decision if I don't have to < 1475183971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "corn" < 1475183987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"corn" vs. "maize"? < 1475184007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you mean that "corn" also doesn't want to bother with words that require a dialect decision? < 1475184029 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "corn" means any sort of edible grain on one shore of the ocean, which is called "cereal" on the other; but means maize (the sweet yellow grain) on the other side < 1475184061 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with words like this, I never know which side of the ocean is which, and even if I could remember, I wouldn't want to bother figuring it out what it means here < 1475184083 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should avoid "corn" and just say "maize" for one sense, and "grain" or "cereal" for the other sense < 1475184113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But many people in the US won't understand what you mean if you say "maize". < 1475184122 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second sense is the more important one, because I also won't try to remember the specific names for all the types of grains in English. < 1475184143 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, let's ignore the maize, I just want something that means any sort of grains < 1475184188 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what "wheat" is, but I've no idea how the names of all the other types of grain in English correspond to the grains < 1475184200 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I probably just want to mention grains in general < 1475184212 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, edible grains you can make bread from < 1475184230 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or let's say edible grains you make flour from < 1475184269 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I also know which one is "rice".) < 1475184632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cute when people use a Cross of Saint Peter (inverted cross; essentially, where † (dagger) is a Christian cross, an inverted dagger (which apparently doesn't exist in Unicode) is this) as a satanic symbol < 1475184637 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: "cereal" is the general word I think < 1475184903 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475184909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Cross of Saint Peter has its origins in the legend (that isn't in the bible AFAICT, so I'm not sure whether it's considered officially true by the various churches) that St. Peter requested that he be crucified upside down because he felt he was unworthy of dying the same way as Jesus < 1475185026 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475185027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually really a fan of the Gospel of Judas, which tells a different story of Jesus's crucifixion, saying that Judas didn't betray Jesus- Jesus told him to tell the romans where he was because it was necessary and stuff. < 1475185094 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475185120 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot here by the way? < 1475185121 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: simon licked his dry lips. he motioned carrot towards one gate and dragged nobby and colon to the other fellows.' < 1475185140 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pratchett style? < 1475185152 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475185211 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1475185211 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld* enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1475185215 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1475185240 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1475185240 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1475185250 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that better fungot? < 1475185250 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: skeleton: a sub-species of the valkyries were the voices of men whose very souls were under siege; men to whom he was dressed in a small time they will wait for the lion; he scares up game, which one's real? xander: let go of the slain, the xorn has the power of wading through the air. < 1475185310 0 :Elronnd-!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1475185355 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump! < 1475185371 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475185511 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475185571 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475185619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK, on second thought, the GoJ is terrible. < 1475185724 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475185747 0 :zemhill_____!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475185770 0 :zemhill____!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475185833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the opposite of Italy? < 1475185858 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? italy < 1475185865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :italy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475185887 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coitaly < 1475185954 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere in the south pacific < 1475185965 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: rome probably < 1475185991 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7z9i0kv4erg96.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475186001 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7z9i0kv4erg96.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475186011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: No, Rome is the midpoint of Italy and whatever the opposite < 1475186027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, I need to know what to call reverse italics < 1475186081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently just call it Ylatic < 1475186130 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes. somwhere east of new zealand < 1475186150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though strictly, what I'm calling 'italic' is actually 'oblique'; 'italic' is a combination of oblique form and script style) < 1475186167 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it coblique < 1475186168 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475186289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, I just thought of that xD < 1475186312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call what I was calling 'italic' 'oblique' (as it should be) and the reverse 'coblique' < 1475186388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I also want double-italics, which occasionally serve useful purposes. If I have double-oblique, I also have to have double-coblique; but would oblique-coblique and coblique-oblique be distinct from plain roman? < 1475186450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am of the opinion that Blackboard Bold should be considered a proper font, and all fonts should support it together with italic and bold (and italic-bold)) < 1475186574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh, backwards italics can be called "Iranic" < 1475186587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because it's basically how you'd italicize Arabic) < 1475186669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475186729 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475186860 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475186923 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475186952 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475186958 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475187308 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is budapest pronounced pudapesht < 1475187416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: part of it's just spelling; the sound spelled "sh" in English is spelled "s" in Hungarian, and the sound spelled "s" in English is spelled "sz" in Hungarian < 1475187438 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because place names are often borrowed before linguistic evolution and/or spelling reform < 1475187442 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so they just took the hungarian spelling. < 1475187585 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the pronounciation, without regard to confusion < 1475187708 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I've only heard it pronounced the way that would be natural in English < 1475187718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is gaszpaczo pronounced the way it is < 1475187719 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, the closest I've been to Hungary is South Tyrol < 1475187739 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's sparkling paczo < 1475187739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaszpaczo < 1475187741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaszpaczo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475187747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I got the spelling wrong. < 1475187757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il sz wisdom < 1475187767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ha \ wisdom/gazspaczo \ wisdom/b_jonas \ wisdom/disflagrate \ wisdom/hungarian \ wisdom/ent \ wisdom/szoup \ wisdom/gaszpacho \ wisdom/middle worse < 1475187779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazspaczo < 1475187782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazspaczo iz a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1475187785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaszpacho < 1475187787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaszpacho is a polish soup, traditionally szerved cold for hot szummer days < 1475187790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? szoup < 1475187792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1475187801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1475187802 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1475187887 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475187897 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475188039 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe I just know a lot of people who are pretentious and pronounce foreign words the foreign way < 1475188058 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "frankfurt" -> "fronkfrt" < 1475188108 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, how about Ljubljana? < 1475188140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ljubljana is TG < 1475188158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Have you considered moving to Ljubljana and doing things with Andrej Bauer? < 1475188175 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, not the second half. Who is Andrej Bauer? < 1475188177 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"liubliona" < 1475188214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: andrej bauer is the best hth < 1475188218 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and of course "paris" "paree" < 1475188234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://andrej.com/fan.html < 1475188266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was looking for PhD students. < 1475188271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one point, anyway. < 1475188273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could go do that. < 1475188282 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I am not, however, happy about the American pronunciation of Bologna < 1475188425 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say "bohlohnya" < 1475188445 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :muricans say "balonee" < 1475188610 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will go to bed now < 1475188611 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnihgt < 1475188613 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*night < 1475188849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA#Brackets, where it talks about the third kind (pipes or double slashes, indicating an underlying construct that sounds different), it says that |s| might be used to claim that phonemic /tɔːks/ and /lʌlz/ are essentially |tɔːks| and |lʌls| underneath. < 1475188865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/lʌlz/" < 1475188884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Oh, looking above, it's 'lulls' < 1475189145 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7z9i0kv4erg96.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475189234 0 :Elronnd-!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1475189625 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not lulz < 1475189642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ? < 1475189656 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :roffle < 1475189690 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :roflolkek < 1475190315 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475190817 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475190933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm defining a new set of math symbols that have a few nicer properties < 1475191048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :- is being changed to something like a NOT sign (¬) flipped over the midline < 1475191150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475191214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the justification that this way, commutative operations are represented by signs with vertical symmetry and non-commutative operations aren't < 1475191266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, man, remember https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9858 ? < 1475191288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"those were the days" < 1475191377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recognized the number, even
< 1475191480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/10000 ? < 1475191511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i've completely forgotten it, probably wasn't important hth < 1475191512 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a little annoyed that #10000 is considered a duplicate, when the content of it was much more troubling than the thing it was a duplicate of < 1475191585 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475191604 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475191606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :costume//Costumes are used for cosplay. Taneb sometimes invents them. < 1475191607 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1475191607 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 3h 31m 5s ago: pice = pi times < 1475191619 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. tdh. < 1475191630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1475191634 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475191634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :etth < 1475191656 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1475191780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm defining their appearance with 2 points A & C, 5 operations / (midpoint), - (line), @ (circle), ^ (join), , (swap), two stack operations : (dup) and $ (drop), * for drawing, and some pure sugar < 1475191788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All in RPN < 1475191988 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475192068 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stume < 1475192069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stume? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475192086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn splay < 1475192087 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "splay" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1475192087 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :splay < 1475192087 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: turned outward in an ungainly manner; "splay knees" < 1475192087 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: an outward bevel around a door or window that makes it seem < 1475192087 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : larger < 1475192089 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[8 @more lines] < 1475192155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1475192155 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: spread open or apart; "He splayed his huge hands over the < 1475192155 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : table" < 1475192155 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: turn outward; "These birds can splay out their toes"; "ballet < 1475192155 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : dancers can rotate their legs out by 90 degrees" [syn: {turn < 1475192155 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : out}, {splay}, {spread out}, {rotate}] < 1475192157 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines] < 1475192187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1475192187 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: move out of position; "dislocate joints"; "the artificial hip < 1475192187 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : joint luxated and had to be put back surgically" [syn: < 1475192187 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {dislocate}, {luxate}, {splay}, {slip}] < 1475192262 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475192270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i shall never need a stume, i think. < 1475192317 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungellot. what's a stume? < 1475192317 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: touch*stone: " by crom, there will be tempted to hit, use a unicorn happy is to give it to paralyse creatures up to the protozoa. slime molds have complex life cycles with an enchanted tooth? < 1475192336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1475192336 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1475192352 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: something that paralyzes you up to the protozoa? uuuuuurgh! < 1475192352 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: stair*: up he went for the head were riveted to this question! how much wood could a woodchuck could chuck wood? " oh, heck! i'll handle *this* one! < 1475192368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know slime molds had teeth, but that's nethack for you, i guess. < 1475192426 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cosplay < 1475192427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cosplay is the art of dressing up as people to show off to other people dressed up as people. < 1475192437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, they don't usually. That's why it's an enchanted tooth. < 1475192444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1475192495 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have teeth? < 1475192495 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: extra staircases lead to extra levels. perhaps our appearance produces a similar feeling in the hand that held axes and short swords; and they were wolves, but, whoever he was working at the man in the midst of the nethack project, and which is tipped with hardened steel. < 1475192583 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475192603 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Splay is a painful pastime that is dual to cosplay and the supersymmetric partner of ordinary play. Recuperation, when even possible, may require wearing a stume. < 1475192610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'splay': Splay is a painful pastime that is dual to cosplay and the supersymmetric partner of ordinary play. Recuperation, when even possible, may require wearing a stume. < 1475192618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But what's a splay tree? < 1475192659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't the stume cowear you? Or perhaps goatear? < 1475192663 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is the main reason why the often look so ackward? < 1475192749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i am not sure whether you are making a grammatical error, or aiming for a truly horrible pun i've missed < 1475192771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly both < 1475192845 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: keyboard crud is the reason for that one. Dont ask why that key though. < 1475192916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm probably not getting whichever reference you were actually aiming for. < 1475192976 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn stume/A stume cowears and goatears you. That is the main reason why the often look so ackward. < 1475192982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «stume» < 1475193020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe `learn would have worked there. but now all is clear, thank you. < 1475193047 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 'y' that key, geddit? ;-Þ < 1475193085 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: are you from Iceland, eh? < 1475193087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: that's only one of the errors hth < 1475193120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm still not sure what "they" refers to. < 1475193138 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: possibly. If you are going to ask for a polarbear pelt signed by Björk then I cannot help you. < 1475193154 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (co)splay-ers < 1475193180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the splaying itself does that, Zarutian < 1475193183 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, none of the sort, thanks. < 1475193183 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: both are rather þorny I fear < 1475193202 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION þwacks Zarutian. 0.76 shachafs.
< 1475193226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: what about if he asks for a hákarl sample? he'd be the most likely person in the channel to do such a thing... < 1475193234 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY! < 1475193237 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was typing it! < 1475193239 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wiðdraws into his aramoured keyshell.
< 1475193255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: SEE? < 1475193297 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it can be shipped here... I know for a fact that surströmming is banned, but maybe shark is OK... < 1475193300 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, ya really want to try hákarl? < 1475193306 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course! < 1475193419 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a substitute you could try at home: take a few newspapers, the yellow the better. Put them in a blender a few pages at a time with generous helpings of cat piss. Turn on the blender, then put the mass into an compression strainer and let it dry out over a week. < 1475193442 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you get what I tasted and sensed when I tried hákarl. < 1475193472 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sure the urea in it had not been gone properly though < 1475193545 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I use marine biology magazines? regular newspapers lack sharkiness... < 1475193756 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: only the ones on crustaseans, otherwise it is not salty enough < 1475193772 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting this strange impression Zarutian doesn't like hákarl, even marinated. < 1475193797 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is too basic for me < 1475193849 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(antonymic of acid for the ones slow on the uptake) < 1475193879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION btw learned yesterday that crustaceans are to insects like dinosaurs are to birds
< 1475193952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the extinct part, i guess. < 1475193953 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well isnt that exoskelent (excelent)? < 1475193962 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm sure there are some extinct crustaceans < 1475194027 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thwacks Zarutian. 0.33 shachafs.
< 1475194031 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm, I wonder if you could keep land crabs in lower and lower airpressure for their generations and get a space worthy one. Call it Something Blue < 1475194047 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It would be good if you switched to a different unit that doesn't hilight me. < 1475194057 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. right. < 1475194068 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the symbol shall be the «Sh». < 1475194101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd shachaf//s# T.*## < 1475194105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/shachaf//Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1475194115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1475194116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord quack doctor oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Pre-recombination Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i hope you subtracted points for explaining the pun < 1475194125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#doctor ## < 1475194127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord quack oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Pre-recombination Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194161 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a good -0.1 Sh were removed. < 1475194183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#hun#bul# < 1475194186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil bulgarian oerlord quack oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Pre-recombination Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why do you remove one of the few true parts tdnh < 1475194362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1475194362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what's the fun in the unit if it's abbreviated... < 1475194369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hun or dr? < 1475194378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"doctor" < 1475194379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475194411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Herr Professor Doktor Oerjan < 1475194433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you sure you *want* "doctor" to be there, if it's preceded by "quack"? < 1475194448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/Nor/Glas/ < 1475194450 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil bulgarian oerlord quack oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :escalation! < 1475194572 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course Spaghetti is already an esolang < 1475194620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :resistance is Fusilli < 1475194632 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475194632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "Oerjan" or "OErjan" the correct capitalization? < 1475194646 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a vague idea that might match such a name (some kind of goto-oriented programming) < 1475194665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former looks better < 1475194718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#fu#su# < 1475194721 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil bulgarian oerlord quack oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go. Doctor. < 1475194743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doctoerjan < 1475194776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#(oerlord) (quack)#\2 \1# < 1475194777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 26: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS < 1475194787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was too much to hope for. < 1475194808 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :slwd might be using the stupid regexps by default < 1475194816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#\(oerlord\) \(quack\)#\2 \1# < 1475194818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil bulgarian quack oerlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#oer#doctover# < 1475194863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil bulgarian quack doctoverlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194918 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner. < 1475194933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s#with a pasjon#and passion fruit# < 1475194941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil bulgarian quack doctoverlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475194957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that may actually be true < 1475194959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? betty crocker < 1475194960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Betty Crocker is a notorious gambler. < 1475194969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits betty crocker < 1475194975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse shachaf < 1475194980 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily and byely (niht) < 1475194980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not a crock < 1475194991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome olsner < 1475194995 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06olsner: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1475194997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "relcome" meant "welcome back". < 1475194997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon what about you < 1475194998 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :The press is the enemy. < 1475195005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1475195005 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can take it. The tougher it gets, the cooler I get. < 1475195017 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: back? I was always here < 1475195029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olsner < 1475195030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon what do you think about the upcoming presidential election in the united states < 1475195030 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played by the rules of politics as I found them. < 1475195031 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner seems to exist at least. He builds all his esolangs in diesel engines. < 1475195049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon and you think the current candidates should do the same? < 1475195049 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scrubbing floors and emptying bedpans has as much dignity as the Presidency. < 1475195136 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds the USA presidental election cycle as apealing and quick as removing teeth through the use of live bambo sprouts.
< 1475195156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just want Nixon back? < 1475195207 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :add on top of that the local parlimentary elections here that came about due to exposure of corruption and you get me rather cranky < 1475195233 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: more like Kennedy < 1475195237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, do Spivak pronouns distinguish animate-inanimate? < 1475195263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :parliament? are you some sort of communist < 1475195268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1475195268 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voters quickly forget what a man says. < 1475195335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan < 1475195336 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Fri Sep 30 01:28:55 2016 < 1475195341 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people remember what you have done (against them) on their part < 1475195354 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you wearing an orange t-shirt? < 1475195377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, are you actually 4evil? < 1475195394 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, maybe we should update that wisdom entry. < 1475195426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#doctoverlord#octoberlord# < 1475195429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil bulgarian quack octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475195441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: grey hth < 1475195464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your 04m08y09s11t12e13r04i08o09u11s evil bulgarian quack octoberlord 04o08e09r11j12a13n < 1475195473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your 04m08y09s11t12e13r04i08o09u11s evil bulgarian quack 04o08c09t11o12b13e04rlord 04o08e09r11j12a13n < 1475195477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is pretty good. < 1475195497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, the lack of adverbial forms of numbers other than {1, 2, 3} is REALLY bugging me < 1475195506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we please just invent a system for this? < 1475195509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adversarial forms < 1475195535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have "once, twice, thrice" < 1475195559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/evil/weevil/ < 1475195561 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4weevil bulgarian quack octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475195571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can add {-1, -2, -3} with "negative once, negative twice, negative thrice" (or s/negative/minus) < 1475195604 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475195619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 should probably be 'nulce' < 1475195621 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "einnar" is adverbial form? ("Single (feminine) ") < 1475195641 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: ...no? < 1475195645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm doing it for English < 1475195674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `slwd oerjan//s#doctoverlord#octoberlord# <-- hey i had that thought < 1475195682 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you have actually made this lack in English saliant to me < 1475195693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we go by the same system as ordinals (e.g. "ninety-first"), we just need to name 0..19 (and probably just 0..9) and have a way of naming multiples of 10 < 1475195738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: stop complaining, norwegian doesn't have adverbial forms for numbers at all... < 1475195754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's Norwegian's problem < 1475195800 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hvad? det kan ikke vera svo? eller er det svo? < 1475195840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if second is the object at index 2 and something twice means something that has occurred 2 times, when ninety-first is the object at index 91, and something that has occurred 91 times happened ninety-once < 1475195841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: once = en gang, twice = to ganger, etc. no inflection. < 1475195882 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so it is. This means it is also such in Danish and Swedish. < 1475195966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nulce, once, twice, thrice, fice, vice, sice, sevice, eice, nince, tence, elevence, twelce, thirteence, fourteence, .., ninteence, twentiece < 1475195984 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :une fois, deux fois, trois fois, quatre fois... pour une fois que le français fait du sens, tsé... < 1475196012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thirtiece, fourtiece, fiftiece, sixtiece, seventiece, eightiece, ninetiece, hundredce < 1475196040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thousandce, [myiace], millionce, billionce, trillionce < 1475196040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the white cliffs of doctoverlord < 1475196043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on < 1475196069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, english is now less bad < 1475196070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meanwhile, latin has a comprehensive set. semel, bis, ter, quater ... < 1475196088 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but this applies to how something happens n times and not the exact cardinality of something else? < 1475196095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a scow way to extend a language. < 1475196098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Correct < 1475196108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to use separate words than inflecting. < 1475196117 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym a scowce way hth < 1475196119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: -ce is no different from -th < 1475196133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, ace scow way < 1475196147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1475196149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fith? < 1475196149 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you tell me if this phrase "memento vitae" is correct latin for "I am reminded that I am alive and joyously existant" < 1475196152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :vith? < 1475196160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fifth < 1475196171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to learn Chinese. < 1475196190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fource and fifce would be fine, I guess... < 1475196205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though 'quice' might be better for 4) < 1475196207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sith? < 1475196216 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lojban has its charms and doesnt require you to trying to learn to differeniate between modal tones. < 1475196216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely not < 1475196222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lojban is scow. < 1475196236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "absolutely not" was a response to "sith?", not to lojban. < 1475196250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tones aren't even that hard, I assume. < 1475196262 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475196263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: no, memento is imperative. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/memini#Latin < 1475196272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I listen to Mandarin for a while I can usually distinguish them after a bit. < 1475196286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjanto < 1475196287 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for someone who is somewhat tonechange deaf it is a problem. < 1475196304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you think Chinese speakers handle it? < 1475196315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are they none of them "tonechange deaf"? < 1475196331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's too late for you, in your advanced age, to learn it. < 1475196332 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, as the phrase "memento mori" as said to Cesar literally means "remember thou art mortal" < 1475196373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it literally mean something in Elizabethan English? < 1475196395 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: literally used here in figgurative sense < 1475196413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember you are figurative < 1475196431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1475196432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Modern_English < 1475196432 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and not verbtaim unless as a quote to a movie on the life and death of Cesar < 1475196456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The King James Bible came out after (most of) Shakespeare's plays. < 1475196467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: well "mori" means to die, infinitive, but i guess latin uses it metaphorically < 1475196485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Jacobian era. And yet Leibniz was only born decades later? < 1475196496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this does not add up hth < 1475196516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/memento_mori#Latin < 1475196548 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shafchaf: oyj dont expose the timewars stitchings this harshly < 1475196584 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shafchaf: it is bad enough to have some people so hopelessly stuck in the past that never was. < 1475196585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1475196593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Jacobian is named after King James. < 1475196626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented six times | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475196687 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds: specially when we got historical characters that never should have been at all.
< 1475196699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: favorite king james: i-v of scotland, i-iii/vi-viii of england and scotland, or one of the spanish ones? < 1475196778 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I am off to bed < 1475196788 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475196932 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :King John / Put up a notice, / "LOST or STOLEN or STRAYED! / JAMES JAMES / MORRISON'S MOTHER / SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN MISLAID. / LAST SEEN / WANDERING VAGUELY / QUITE OF HER OWN ACCORD, / SHE TRIED TO GET DOWN TO THE END OF / THE TOWN - FORTY SHILLINGS REWARD!" < 1475197026 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That lining is all wrong. < 1475197220 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475197557 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475197868 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475197874 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What, the matrix? < 1475197881 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1475197886 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jacobian. < 1475197895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1475197899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very mysterious. < 1475197907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:48 In the Jacobian era. And yet Leibniz was only born decades later? < 1475197952 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read that far back up. < 1475197969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the picture here has the right expression for your claim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_Jacob_Jacobi < 1475198059 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hello < 1475198756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wtf, doctors. You want BMI calculated as m/h^2, but you want us to just drop the units? seriously? < 1475198792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say you calculate BMI with weight (kg) divided by height (m), but the result isn't given in kg/m^2 < 1475198793 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475199560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If dy/dx is the derivative of a function, can one do other derivatives? < 1475199576 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: dy/dx is the derivative of y with respect to x < 1475199581 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes < 1475199586 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in this case, y is defined as a function of x < 1475199602 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, if y=x², then dy/dx = 2x < 1475199605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if I have a function f(x, y, z) = o, I can do do/dx, do/dy, do/dz < 1475199618 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also write that like this: d(x²)/dx = 2x < 1475199631 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in that case you have what's called partial derivatives < 1475199635 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: QUINTHELLOPIA. < 1475199674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But can I then do derivative in multiple dimensions? Probably something like f(x, z) = y, dy/dxdz or something? < 1475199687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How do you even refer to slope in multiple dimensions?) < 1475199842 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could do it at an angle, dy/d(x+z) < 1475199848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1475199861 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but slope in multiple dimensions is normally referred to using two different slopes < 1475199869 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx and dy/dz in this case < 1475199952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Would dx/dy (for y = f x) mean the derivative of a function g x = 1/f x? < 1475199981 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: depends on what you mean by "1/f"; it's the derivative of the inverse of f < 1475200016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 1/(f x) < 1475200019 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly f-1'(x)? < 1475200034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suddenly curried everything) < 1475200038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did you see all my questions about Leibniz notation in here? < 1475200045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you know the answers. < 1475200050 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, but I'm not sure I could answer them < 1475200057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like you have the same answer to the first question that I did. < 1475200069 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the derivative of 1/(f x) is calculated quite differently < 1475200073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh < 1475200085 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, when you write dy/dx, y is an expression with free variable x, and it means D(\x. y)(x) < 1475200097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where D : (R -> R) -> (R -> R) is the differentiation operator on functions. < 1475200118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I defined division of strings yesterday... < 1475200119 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think of it like that at all, although it does seem correct < 1475200128 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, then how do you think of it? < 1475200128 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, that's just a really alien point of view to me < 1475200134 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in terms of limits < 1475200144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One person I talked to insisted that the thing on top of dy/dx is a function, rather than an expression. < 1475200163 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would dx/dy be basically f-1'(x) than or have I got that wrong? It's been years since I did all this in my first year of Uni... < 1475200176 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure. Df(x) = lim_{h->0}{ (f(x+h) - f(x)) / h } < 1475200178 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: no, that's right < 1475200202 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'll buy that < 1475200205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx/dy = 1/(dy/dx) < 1475200205 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks ais523 < 1475200223 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is I think of the dx and dy things as being deltas on x and y that are inherently self-limiting < 1475200251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This notation is obviously great because it works so well. < 1475200262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/du * du/dx = dy/dx, 1/(dy/dx) = dx/dy, etc. < 1475200271 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right, and the delta notation explains why it works < 1475200274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm pretty sure d is just an abstract symbol; dy/dx = limit(λ k -> (y*k/x)/(k), approach=0) < 1475200281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm reading Wikipedia right < 1475200297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And turning limit into a function anybody could ever understand < 1475200313 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen delta-x/delta-y in some equations, though I forget why < 1475200332 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the way I think about d is < 1475200337 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you replace it with delta < 1475200347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then take a limit on the entire expression containing it in which you tend the deltas to 0 < 1475200365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What do you think of the thing people do where they have e.g.: x^2 + y^2 = 1; d(x^2 + y^2) = d(1); 2x dx + 2y dy = 0; dy/dx = -x/y < 1475200367 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that it has an effect on the containing expression means that it isn't quite a variable or something that can be manipulated in its own right < 1475200404 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's fun when it works, but not necessarily worth memorizing the rules needed to know whether it will work or not < 1475200410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :limit :: t → (t → u) → u < 1475200419 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What are the rules? < 1475200431 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I didn't memorize them < 1475200432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lim : (R -> R) -> (R -> R) < 1475200447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Everyone says these rules are ad-hoc. < 1475200458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think my version is better < 1475200460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, physicists just use them. < 1475200466 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I think there's a mathematical basis behind why it works < 1475200489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they work so well that I think there has to be a good way of formalizing them. Even if dx is just a synthetic symbol or whatever. < 1475200499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is the limit of (f x) as x goes to a < 1475200499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My L : (R -> R) -> (R -> R) is pretty good. < 1475200507 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A function f is continous if Lf=f < 1475200516 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: L is a continuiser? < 1475200518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Mine doesn't require that you use the real numbers < 1475200531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither does mine, if you come up with another structure that it works for. < 1475200543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, shachaf understands Calculus and I do not < 1475200551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you need to constrain t and u somehow. < 1475200561 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's not as hard as people think it is < 1475200563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I searched Duck Duck Go for "limits". The first suggestion for meaning was in the BDSM sense < 1475200566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lf(x) is a function which behaves kind of like f but maybe differently. Except it might be extremely different. < 1475200570 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, differential calculus < 1475200586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, the thing about x^2 + y^2 = 1 is that neither x nor y is a function of the other one. < 1475200597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the derivative is still defined. < 1475200608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way to make sense of that is to parameterize them both on some other variable t. < 1475200613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=sin t, y=cos t < 1475200620 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's a well-known trick < 1475200625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then "dy" really means "dy/dt" and "dx" really means "dx/dt" < 1475200636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the thing is that the value of dy/dx is independent of your parameterization. < 1475200646 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have to be < 1475200651 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why should you have to say that it's parameterized in the first place? I just want a direct meaning of "d". < 1475200733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People also do other tricks. They write: dy/dx = Ky; dy/y = K dx; \Int{dy/y} = \Int{K dx}; log(y) + C = Kx + D < 1475200738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with the limits interpretation, dy/dx is perfectly meaningful here, so long as you can describe "a small change in x and y simultaneously while obeying the equation" < 1475200740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It almost always seems to work. < 1475200743 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically what t does < 1475200757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allows you to describe how to change x and y while keeping the equation satisfied < 1475200768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing you can write is d(x^3)/d(x^2). So the thing on the bottom isn't even a variable. < 1475200781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other equations, such as cos(x)+sin(y)=2, which can't be perturbed while keeping the equation satisfied < 1475200793 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I suspect that equation isn't differentiable < 1475200809 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you try the physicist trick on it? < 1475200831 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DECANTED CHICKEN < 1475200848 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is all starting to get a bit "black-magic proofs"... < 1475200863 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: right, we're busy debating if the proofs work or not and if so why < 1475200865 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, let's try it < 1475200869 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cos(x)+sin(y)=2 < 1475200874 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d cos(x) + d sin(y) = d 2 < 1475200886 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cos(y) - sin (x) = 0 < 1475200891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = sin(x)/cos(y) < 1475200898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're missing the dx and dy < 1475200898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But if we define the division of two strings s and t s/t (where every character in t appears at least as many times in s- written tally(s) :≥ tally(t)) as- non-deterministically- any string that can be generated by removing the same number of occurrences of a character from the top string as appear in the bottom string < 1475200906 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah right < 1475200907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/But // < 1475200987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cos(x)%2Bsin(y)%3D2 is the graph of that function. < 1475201010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't look very interesting, so I'd expect its tangents aren't very interesting either. < 1475201013 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475201035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But take cos(x)+sin(y)=0 instead. < 1475201035 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's basically a grid of dots < 1475201055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that intentionally, to make it impossible to usefully draw a tangent < 1475201058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1475201093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Points like (0,pi/2) < 1475201119 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But note that the derivative dy/dx is independent of the value 2 here. < 1475201137 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are certain special types of quotient; for example, a Simple Quotient of s/t is any string in the set of quotients of s/t that have the smallest edit distance using the Simple Distance metric (which allows nothing but insertion and deletion of arbitrary-length continuous blocks of text)) < 1475201158 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graph isn't showing up for me? < 1475201161 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try cos(x)-cos(y)=0 < 1475201172 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tangents to that are really easy to define < 1475201186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, changing the 0 to a different value changes them < 1475201190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A Proper Quotient of s/t is only possible when t is a proper substring of s (and you just remove that substring), a Perfect Quotient is a Perfect Quotient where the substring is at the very end) < 1475201199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Right, but dy/dx is defined in terms of both x and y < 1475201206 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1475201211 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good point < 1475201212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 'abcdefg'/'fg' = 'abcde', and that's a perfect quotient < 1475201222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Same thing for the circle: x^2+y^2=k has the same tangents no matter what the radius is, in terms of x and y. < 1475201247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Which makes dy/dx = -x/y a much better answer than something like dy/dx = -x/sqrt(1-x^2), which only works for one radius. < 1475201265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And also it works for the whole circle rather than just the top half.) < 1475201267 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475201269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But my point is, with this needlessly convoluted system of string functions, can we start to play with dy/dx of y = f(x) when the function is f : String → String? < 1475201287 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the formula with sqrt also works for both halves :-P < 1475201299 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not really interested in the topic, sorry < 1475201302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on what you mean by sqrt. < 1475201304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;/ < 1475201306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:/ < 1475201368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, dy/dx = sin(x)/cos(y), at (0,pi/2), is 0/0 < 1475201375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the derivative is indeed not defined. < 1475201384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not so bad. < 1475201466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, no. < 1475201474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, yes. < 1475201486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...OK, on second thought, the GoJ is terrible. <-- that didn't take long < 1475201499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you wrote cos(x)+sin(y)=2 < 1475201505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why it wasn't working. < 1475201526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when cos(x)+sin(y)=2, cos(y) will always be 0 < 1475201618 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475201804 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475201857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have more things on this topic but I'm not sure whether ais523 isn't interested in either one. < 1475201863 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious about the "self-limiting" thing. < 1475201979 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475202013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I was wondering about how this worked for second derivatives. < 1475202043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure it does but am possibly too tired to figure out how < 1475202056 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you have to take a limit /of/ a limit < 1475202063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think about the notation d^2y/dx^2? < 1475202073 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why the d²y notation exists < 1475202082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I believe that d(dy) has a meaning. < 1475202088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why do you divide by dx twice? < 1475202089 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically, it's d²y/(dx)²) < 1475202102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I can't remember < 1475202109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in particular if you work it out, you get an extra term. < 1475202110 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew the reason once, and it was a good one < 1475202113 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't remember what it was < 1475202124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which maybe should be 0 and maybe shouldn't? oerjan was saying something about it. < 1475202129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say you parameterize everything in terms of dt. < 1475202148 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: what's this channel for? < 1475202152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So d(...) really means what people usually write as d(...)/dt < 1475202156 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like ##programming ##math and ##english < 1475202158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Bowserinator < 1475202159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowserinator: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1475202169 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clicks* < 1475202173 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowserinator: notionally it's about esoteric programming languages < 1475202176 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :) < 1475202179 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it tends to go offtopic a lot < 1475202181 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this channel already < 1475202189 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Leibniz notation isn't really too far from esoteric languages. < 1475202201 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the things we discuss are normally related to esolangs in some ways < 1475202209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently I learned a new word, "exoteric", meaning the opposite of esoteric. < 1475202214 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. they're the result of applying an esolang frame of mind to something other than programming < 1475202221 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is an esoteric natural language, for example :-P < 1475202292 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you tried to design an esolang to work like English < 1475202301 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly you'd probably end up with Perl, which is not quite esoteric < 1475202317 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Larry Wall was a specialist on natural languages and used English as a model when creating Perl) < 1475202338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, I think you get: d(dy) = d(dy/dx)/dx^3 + (dy/dx) d(dx) < 1475202388 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowserinator: ohai < 1475202396 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475202401 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot has too many interpreters < 1475202405 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame moonythedwarf < 1475202407 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-list < 1475202407 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: echo ping pong eval flushq help list use store cash inv savecstate buy sell give kick ban unban op deop mode attack poke join part reload whois nick pyc pad pyr giac befr padclr lolr ><>r js rsc ul makeCmd userland rulc pnig < 1475202410 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-pnig < 1475202410 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEARN TO TYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!11!!!!1!!! < 1475202412 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475202413 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: hackego has way more < 1475202424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So d^2y/dx^2 = d(dy/dx)/dx + (dy/dx) d^2x/dx^2 < 1475202428 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, probably, considering it's been in development for a few years < 1475202432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the meaning of that extra term? < 1475202439 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohb tw < 1475202443 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherbot has a cas! < 1475202447 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-giac integrate() < 1475202448 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added 0 synonyms "integrate(NULL) Error: Bad Argument Value" // Time 0 // Total time 0 < 1475202455 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: the main bot in this channel for years was egobot < 1475202461 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego has all its interpreters < 1475202462 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, ik < 1475202471 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475202473 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read that wrong < 1475202479 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475202482 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! underload (test)S < 1475202483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1475202488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't bot spam supposed to go in #esoteric-blah, anyway? < 1475202494 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ul (test)S < 1475202494 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test < 1475202497 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1475202505 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no idea < 1475202507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: #esoteric-blah is basically for anything that's particularly spammy that we don't want cluttering this channel < 1475202513 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like pasting entire text files directly into IRC < 1475202513 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like stack traces! < 1475202515 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475202518 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1475202530 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot has a bad habit of outputting whole stack traces to irc when run on the wrong node.js version < 1475202545 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its rules are very similar to #esoteric's except a) there's no rule against flooding (in fact, it's somewhat encouraged) and b) people hardly ever speak there unless a conversation gets moved there from here < 1475202569 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-giac integrate(5x-4) < 1475202570 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added 0 synonyms 5*x^2/2-4*x // Time 0.01 // Total time 0.01 < 1475202574 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there we go < 1475202586 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-giac dxdy() < 1475202586 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help file /usr/share/giac/doc/local/aide_cas not found Added 0 synonyms dxdy // Time 0 // Total time 0 < 1475202596 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not a thing < 1475202603 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-giac derivative() < 1475202603 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :// Maximum number of parallel threads 8 Help file /usr/share/giac/doc/local/aide_cas not found Added derivative < 1475202610 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-giac derivative() < 1475202611 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :C.UTF-8 // /usr/share/locale/ // derivative < 1475202615 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-giac derivative() < 1475202615 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added 0 synonyms derivative // Time 0 // Total time 0 < 1475202617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is (dy/dx)^2 = dy^2/dx^2? < 1475202622 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????????????????????????? < 1475202639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think so < 1475202659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan was pointing out some counterexample a few days ago. < 1475202671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which led me to think that I wasn't sure about d^2x/dx^2 < 1475202680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should it be 0? < 1475202705 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475202773 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475202788 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good point, second derivative of x is 0 < 1475202850 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that you can't treat that like a normal division < 1475202851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say you parameterize it in t, so d means derivative with respect to t. x = t^2; d(dx) = 2; dx^2 = 4x^2; d^2x/dx^2 = 1/(2x^2) < 1475202874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So certainly it doesn't just naively work when you parameterize it like this. < 1475203111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not normal division, what is it? < 1475203220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say everything is parameterized in t, dy/dx = u. That means dy = u dx, so d(dy) = du dx + u d(dx) < 1475203228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should that much be permitted? < 1475203278 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I'm too tired to figure this out < 1475203283 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also haven't had to calculus this much in years < 1475203291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ais523 < 1475203292 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ais523 is Fri Sep 30 02:41:32 2016 < 1475203494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475203559 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-indowaqezzbmkyym QUIT : < 1475203687 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475203975 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f101:e3fe:525d:e7d8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475204200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i assumed this was what those extra terms in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function#Higher-order_differentials were supposed to fix < 1475204218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Didn't we have a counterexample? < 1475204220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the x not the independent variable case) < 1475204252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, those extra terms were the same as the ones I had given before. < 1475204286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i was all quacked out at that point < 1475204294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1475204351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. < 1475204383 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f101:e3fe:525d:e7d8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475204570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten the example. There were two of them. < 1475204690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think my original example was based on assuming f''(x) = d^2 y / (dx)^2 held and getting a contradiction if dx is 0 because x = g(t) where g'(t) = 0. < 1475204773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, one example had x=t^2, y=t^3 < 1475204777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me work through that again. < 1475204810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suppose what happens with the expanded formula is that d^2 y does not determine f''(x) < 1475204837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f'' means d(dy/dx)/dx? < 1475204844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, f''(x) < 1475204881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, when dx = 0, you get f'(x) = d^2 y / d^2 x. which looks like l'hôpital. < 1475204932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vaguely) < 1475204942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's an easier way of looking at it, I guess. If d(dy/dx)/dx = d(dy)/dx^2, then d(u/v) = d(u)/v, which is obviously not true in general. In general d(u/v) = (v du - u dv)/v^2 < 1475204962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is equal to d(u)/v when dv = 0 < 1475204985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, i still cannot get my head around trying to calculate second derivatives like d(dy/dx)/dx, because scope. < 1475204994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What? There's no scope issue there. < 1475205014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If y is an expression in x, y = x^2, then dy/dx is also an expression in x, dy/dx = 2x < 1475205056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess what you're saying is that there might be confusing shadowing going on there. < 1475205064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1475205075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping that that's not true but I can see the objection. < 1475205094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want to write f''(x), because y might not be a function of x < 1475205136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it might be worth avoiding explicit division. < 1475205167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1475205175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can do it with products too. < 1475205185 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of dy/dx = u, write dy = u dx < 1475205205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way, you won't divide by zeros < 1475205207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then d(dy) = du dx + u d(dx) < 1475205251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you could divide by dx^2 here, you would get d(dy)/dx^2 = du/dx + du d(dx)/dx^2 < 1475205266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that probably isn't necessary. < 1475205281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's precisely the formula from wikipedia? < 1475205311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, except I wrote u instead of f'(x) < 1475205383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway: If dy = u dx, then d(dy) = du dx + u d(dx) < 1475205384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always true? < 1475205411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we're allowed to replace du dx by f''(x) dx^2 assuming f''(x) exists, even if dx is 0 < 1475205438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that one only makes sense if y is a function of x. < 1475205466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because the ordinary chain rule works for first derivatives < 1475205485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't f only make sense if y = f(x)? < 1475205492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1475205504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the assumption in the formula. < 1475205506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I was avoiding it. < 1475205545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it isn't, then i'm not sure dy = u dx is conceptually true < 1475205564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because y = f(t), x = g(t) < 1475205585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dy/dt = u dx/dt < 1475205610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I got the algebra wrong last time, I think. < 1475205622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, assuming dx/dt isn't 0 anywhere dy/dt isn't < 1475205651 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1475205667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say x=t^2, y=t^3. < 1475205670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it works out. < 1475205672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually, if both are 0 you need l'hôpital again < 1475205686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(dy) = 6t, du dx = 3t, u d(dx) = 3t < 1475205827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So it's sounding like it actually is the same scope? < 1475205877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe < 1475205905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the lesson here is that the notation d^2y/dx^2 is kind of broken. < 1475205932 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular it only works when d^2x = 0? < 1475205943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what does it mean for d^2x to be 0? < 1475205971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's true if x is the independent variable < 1475205979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1475205997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one everything bottoms out as functions of < 1475205997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought half the point of this notation was that you can just do these mafipulations on their own and they work. < 1475206013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get a parameterization-free version of it. < 1475206030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you need the d^2 x term, i guess. < 1475206053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm OK with that. < 1475206099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even useful to know: The usual second derivative expression d^2y/dx^2 off by (dy/dx) (d^2x/dx^2) < 1475206106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the meaning of that? < 1475206150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that looks like an important expression, so where else does it come up? < 1475206297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say I just have some expressions or functions or whatever else. How do I decide whether d^2x = 0? < 1475206309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In differential geometry, d^2 = 0 always, right? Are these related? < 1475206328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :differential geometry is antisymmetric, i don't think this is < 1475206342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in dx dy = -dy dx? < 1475206344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the forms of < 1475206390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this is antisymmetric when you have multiple independent variables? < 1475206402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've been making the assumptions that y and x are functions of the same thing. < 1475206476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/ae52a2c75169e1884e87a001e385e94ce7164111 doesn't look very antisymmetric either... < 1475206500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what happens for second derivatives when you vary more than one independent variable, although there was some partial stuff in that wp section too < 1475206595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If dy = f'(x) dx, then dy dx = (f'(x) dx) dx and dx dy = dx (f'(x) dx) < 1475206640 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And given that these things are linear, those should maybe be equal? < 1475206652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think. < 1475206653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it depends on how you define the product. < 1475206755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_form says the exterior derivative "extends the differential of a function" < 1475207043 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475207094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1475207560 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1475207981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1475208016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1475208017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4weevil bulgarian quack octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475208043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa, did you slwd your own wisdom entry? < 1475208065 0 :Tefaj!?@? NICK :Jafet < 1475208213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew Tefaj < 1475208215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :jafeT < 1475208310 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475208555 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 960x720 720p? < 1475208600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 720 * 16/9 < 1475208602 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1280.0 < 1475208605 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1475208616 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i feel cheated < 1475208646 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this torrent i just illegally downloaded was supposed to be evangelion in 720p but it's 960x720 < 1475208673 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 960/720 < 1475208675 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.3333333333333333 < 1475208691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it didn't claim to be 16:9 < 1475208703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess "4:3 720p" would be that < 1475208708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1280-960 < 1475208710 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 320 < 1475208725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only off by a few pixels < 1475208757 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll ask for a full refund < 1475208972 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fahcahellos < 1475208981 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :full refund? what nerv. < 1475209501 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :720p is literally "720 vertical lines, progressive" (as opposed to interlaced) < 1475209512 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be just 1 pixel thick and still count < 1475209665 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Powering off < 1475209710 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i couldn't get a refund < 1475210309 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1475213193 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475213539 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475213580 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475213832 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475213918 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475214164 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475214438 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475215429 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475216417 0 :brandonson!~g8p8@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475216694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it appropriate just to say n! = gamma(n+1) and be done with it? < 1475216856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For whom? < 1475218443 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1475218464 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475219513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Humans? < 1475219677 0 :wander___!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475219849 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475219897 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :radiohead < 1475219941 0 :radiohead!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1475220454 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: only when the audience has enough knowledge about gamma function < 1475220467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Well yeah < 1475221616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Biota14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49824&oldid=30500 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+19) 10 < 1475221673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quipu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49825&oldid=45982 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+39) 10 < 1475221739 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475221740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Marbelous14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49826&oldid=45195 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+57) 10 < 1475222512 0 :wander___!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475224128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote we make Abortion clinics (and anything associated with birth control) use a variant symbol of the Rod of Aesculapius that replaces the snake with a wire coathanger. Because I'm a bad person. < 1475224275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually mean that you're a bad person? < 1475224313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, saying you're a bad person doesn't exempt you from any of the consequence of acting in a bad way. < 1475224325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know < 1475224333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought the imagery was funny < 1475224355 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475224485 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host86-144-16-251.range86-144.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475224720 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475224957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Half-Broken Car in Heavy Traffic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49827&oldid=35363 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+57) 10 < 1475224968 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475224996 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475225253 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475225253 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475225526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475226528 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475227303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07RUBE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49828&oldid=33697 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+39) 10 < 1475227388 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475227519 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475228858 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475229920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So when people differentiate twice, they write (d/dx) . (d/dx) < 1475229932 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(d/dx) really means (/dx) . d < 1475229948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So differentiating twice is (*1/dx) . d . (*1/dx) . d < 1475229996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If 1/dx is a constant, then the multiplication commutes with d. If not then you need to add an extra term. to account for how it changes. < 1475230040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :((d^2/dx^2) means ((*1/x) . (*1/x) . d . d), of course.) < 1475230277 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475230298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s=/x=/dx=g < 1475230314 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, yes. < 1475230386 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're in somewhat murky territory (treating d as a separate operator), but I suppose you know that. < 1475230413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, see either conversation with ais523 a few hours ago or the conversation with oerjan a few days ago. < 1475230425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somewhat murky but I'm trying to figure out how d behaves in order to make it less murky. < 1475230440 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to make it work I've been saying that x and y are both secretly defined in terms of t. < 1475230457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(e) means what people would normally write as de/dt < 1475230484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everything works pretty well, d(x^2) = 2x dx and so on. < 1475230557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the second derivative of y in terms of x isn't d^2y/dx^2, it's d^2y/dx^2 - (dy/dx) d^2x/dx^2 < 1475230600 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475230645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can just say d(dy) = d(dy/dx) dx + (dy/dx) d(dx) < 1475230735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the case that (dy/dx)^2 = dy^2/dx^2? < 1475230840 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If y is in terms of an independent variable x, (dy/dx)^2 = dy^2/dx^2, and the second derivative is d^2y/dx^2. So f''(x)/f'(x)^2 = d^2y/dy^2? < 1475230851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where y = f(x).) < 1475230874 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(2x)/dx = 2; d((2x)^2)/d(x^2) = d(4x^2)/d(x^2) = 4 = 2^2 < 1475230876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does f''(x)/f'(x)^2 have a standard name? < 1475230899 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that's one black crow < 1475230906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ? < 1475230918 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_paradox < 1475230958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not following. Are you saying that there's a flaw or that what you just said is irrelevant? < 1475231014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(4x^2)/d(x^2) is certainly 4. < 1475231038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(4u)/du = 4 for any choice of u < 1475231065 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm saying it's a tiiiiny bit of evidence that's ultimately useless < 1475231077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidence of what? < 1475231095 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is it the case that (dy/dx)^2 = dy^2/dx^2? < 1475231122 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx^2 means (dx)^2 < 1475231153 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I misinterpreted you < 1475231184 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't something I know very well at all I'm afraid < 1475231263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question I asked was kind of meaningless in itself. < 1475231301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Wait, didn't you invent D-modules? < 1475231319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475231319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules were the original tanebvention. < 1475231340 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your name is right there on the Wikipedia page. < 1475231595 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, that was a long time ago, I'm very rusty < 1475231623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldneb < 1475231636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you interested in the lentil stew i made in the pressure cooker today < 1475231672 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me that I wanted to understand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_ring a while ago... < 1475231692 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, the concept, not necessarily the wikipedia page) < 1475231704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_ring < 1475231739 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I wasn't reminded of that at all until you brought it up. < 1475231777 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :webrings were kind of cute < 1475231797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this seems interesting. < 1475231834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know people talked about "local" behavior in purely algebraic structures like rings. < 1475232423 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475233337 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1475233359 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475233383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say y=sin(x). Then d^2y/dy^2 = -tan(x)/cos(x)? < 1475233396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to sleep. < 1475234345 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/hoi4uk.PNG < 1475234364 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the uk has done well foer itself this time < 1475234381 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very united < 1475234428 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got the hang of HOI4 < 1475234440 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is to use lots of nukes I find < 1475234460 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annihilate anything even resembling industry < 1475234468 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Historically only two were used < 1475234515 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used uh... well, basically several on every city in continental europe... < 1475234538 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you use strategic bombing instead? < 1475234556 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can < 1475234568 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I used nuclear ballistic missiles < 1475234582 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit of a nuclear option, so to speak < 1475234593 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475234610 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also used them to soften up the maginot line for my advance into germany < 1475234701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoi4 doesn't seem to model the problems resulting from driving a tank into a fallout zone mere hours after the nuke was used < 1475234725 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very realistic < 1475234731 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that if it did you'd be playing this somewhat differently < 1475234752 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least not telling your tank drivers everything < 1475234890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, with all this territory, I can create various countries with stupid borders, causing hilarous problems. < 1475234916 0 :Deepfriedice!~Deepfried@110-174-193-155.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1475234918 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like the UK did in real life! < 1475234930 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who the hell thought East Pakistan was a good idea) < 1475234936 0 :Deepfriedice!~Deepfried@110-174-193-155.static.tpgi.com.au PART #esoteric : < 1475235019 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and whatever happened in the middle east) < 1475235029 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My best game of HOI4 I think I was playing as Iran < 1475235039 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I creared west germany. but its capital and only major city is Arad < 1475235063 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went fascist and took most of the middle east that wasn't British or French < 1475235153 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I ended up at war with the Soviet Union and realised not having manpower could be an issue < 1475235407 0 :boily!~alexandre@192.222.252.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475235455 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what I'll do. I'll try to fill up every building slot in my giant territory, then create a new set of european countries < 1475235474 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then nuke the USA < 1475235592 0 :boily!~alexandre@192.222.252.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. < 1475235858 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475236280 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hi < 1475236299 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/hoi4uk.PNG <-- here's where I'm at now < 1475236519 0 :boily!~alexandre@192.222.252.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very big UK... < 1475236644 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may try to make it bigger by killing the USA < 1475236754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475236972 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :United Kingdoms of Eurasia-Africa < 1475237735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475238242 0 :boily!~alexandre@192.222.252.9 QUIT :Quit: HEAVY CHICKEN < 1475239037 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 32 bytes. what's the best way rotate them right by 123? < 1475239471 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475239989 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ror rax, 123 < 1475240217 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475240678 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475241275 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475241417 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475242710 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475242945 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i celebrate the day i will be able to breath through my nose again? < 1475244305 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475245085 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475245089 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boo < 1475245130 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475245142 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475245187 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475245235 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475246612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475246976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf oerjan: whoa whoa whoa, did you slwd your own wisdom entry? <-- see `? overlord hth < 1475246976 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475247337 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? overlord < 1475247340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil overlords do evil acts like taking over the world, kicking puppies, and changing their own wisdom entries. < 1475247514 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475247626 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambdabot < 1475247627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src. < 1475247632 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src < 1475247632 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :src . Display the implementation of a standard function < 1475247636 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 1 < 1475247637 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. My mind is going. I can feel it. < 1475247641 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src list < 1475247641 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. < 1475247645 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 2 < 1475247645 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Your mind just hasn't been the same since the electro-shock, has it? < 1475247649 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 3 < 1475247649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. You untyped fool! < 1475247652 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247652 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. BOB says: You seem to have forgotten your passwd, enter another! < 1475247657 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1475247664 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247665 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Abort, Retry, Panic? < 1475247666 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247666 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Listen, broccoli brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash. < 1475247670 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247670 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. My brain just exploded < 1475247671 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247671 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Just what do you think you're doing Dave? < 1475247673 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247673 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. And you call yourself a Rocket Scientist! < 1475247675 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247675 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Do you think like you type? < 1475247677 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 4 < 1475247677 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. :( < 1475247678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you expect number literals to have sources < 1475247683 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1475247695 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src > < 1475247695 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x > y = case compare x y of < 1475247695 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : GT -> True < 1475247695 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _ -> False < 1475247719 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thats for haskell things. ok < 1475247731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a certain fake einstein quote comes to mind. < 1475247810 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475247925 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475247927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, well actually lambdabot _did_ respond differently. < 1475247941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote insane < 1475247944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :122) pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" \ 397) There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and < 1475247952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 397 < 1475247955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :397) There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] You've just gave me a different result [...] It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur. < 1475248007 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475248348 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475248757 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg50ebwxdcq425o.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475248760 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475249301 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 32 bytes < 1475249945 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eax < 1475249954 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475250242 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my eax isn't that large <.< < 1475250307 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: try xmm0 < 1475251482 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: how is your rax too large and your eax not large enough? < 1475251503 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :rax isn't too large -.- < 1475251513 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1475251523 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 >>bytes<< < 1475251532 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah m( < 1475251538 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 bits < 1475251620 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that I knew x86 to help :( < 1475251635 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I should've suggested ymm0 < 1475251695 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and they have zmmi as well... what will they use for 1024 bit registers? < 1475251715 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn ((a -> b) -> c) -> a -> b -> c < 1475251716 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a _ b = a (\ _ -> b) < 1475251735 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ammi < 1475251738 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wmmi? < 1475251747 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475251747 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :following the x,y,z,w convention for 4D coordinates < 1475251755 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ 'z' < 1475251757 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '{' < 1475251766 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :{mmi ok < 1475251783 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :|mmi }mmi ~mmi DELmmi < 1475251937 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting... i cannot smell yet but i can somehow "taste" that the tissues i use have some kind of balsam herbs in them < 1475252066 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is still trying to figure out how to make and present proof of turing completeness for gravbox (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gravbox)
< 1475252114 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should put urls in <> rather than () < 1475252120 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1475252143 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :template your urls < 1475252179 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x> is the official(tm) way to do that < 1475252196 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most software recognizes that and does not make the > as part of the link < 1475252212 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> (b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> c < 1475252212 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b c = b (c a) < 1475252215 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ) however will be made part of the link somewhere < 1475252216 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan suggusted fractran, but managing the value might be a issue, any better lanugage to use to prove turing completeness? < 1475252272 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : <<< there < 1475252279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's hard about managing the value, just keep it on top of the stack < 1475252298 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh true enough. ais was confusing me there < 1475252360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais idea is if you want to avoid bignums < 1475252399 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1475252422 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i _dont_ want to. *me goes off to translatea fractran program to gravbox < 1475252503 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens on division by 0? < 1475252521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be an issue with a normal fractran program < 1475252537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49829&oldid=49822 5* 03Moon 5* (+103) 10Minor instruction change < 1475252553 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: depends on interp sadly, most likely a error < 1475252624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: that's not minor, now you have a full queue i think < 1475252670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you don't actually remove the original second to bottom, in which case it just became useless. < 1475252707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: also, this will be much more awkward to use when you _do_ want to manipulate as a stack. < 1475252778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that phrasing is pretty confusing. < 1475252796 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of confusing phrasing, what does "divide from" mean? < 1475252853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there are also plenty of commands that don't say whether they delete their arguments < 1475252876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would be pretty awkward if they didn't < 1475252960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recommends forthy stack notation. see e.g. Underload or Glass pages.
< 1475253033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49830&oldid=49829 5* 03Moon 5* (-106) 10 < 1475253128 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically you have *one* scratch register now < 1475253137 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg50ebwxdcq425o.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475253208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it. < 1475253250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if we could somehow pop a value without any other effect that could be used to swap the top two elements of the stack, hmm < 1475253264 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475253269 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0*+ does that < 1475253277 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49831&oldid=49830 5* 03Moon 5* (+3) 10 < 1475253313 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ^ < 1475253317 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. so :0*+:^: < 1475253343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh actually there's a % command < 1475253346 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now it's back. < 1475253363 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. so :%:^: then < 1475253374 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but : has just changed once again) < 1475253403 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you pointed out a way for me to cut out % :P now its gone because you pointed out a alternative, or should i keep it < 1475253411 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 0*+ makes it into a wimpmode < 1475253424 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to be as minimal as possible < 1475253431 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough. < 1475253439 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1475253461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: well technically 0*+ only works if there's at least two stack elements to start with < 1475253512 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the context where one treats the bottom element of the stack as a scratch register that's true already, so it was perfectly in line with what I needed < 1475253524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: also, int-e pointed out how to implement the top 2 swap using the top and bottom swap < 1475253530 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg50ebwxdcq425o.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475253533 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wanted... I don't really need any of this. < 1475253592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49832&oldid=49831 5* 03Moon 5* (-3) 10Reverted < 1475253675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i don't think your :0*+:^: can be right because it deletes the bottom of the stack < 1475253698 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a scratch register < 1475253705 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1475253741 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475253744 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My idea was to just not use the bottom of the stack for anything besides temporary storage.) < 1475253767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1475253791 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I could've mentioned that. < 1475255565 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1475256488 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475256693 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475258217 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475259380 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475259434 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475259654 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475259901 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg50ebwxdcq425o.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475259916 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475260710 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475261449 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475261989 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475262498 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475262506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475263017 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:9ce4:564f:13ba:f5db JOIN :#esoteric < 1475264146 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475264157 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:9ce4:564f:13ba:f5db QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475264188 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475264842 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475265559 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475265571 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@vps.wolfy1339.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475265924 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475266986 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475267501 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4156:671f:5489:d611 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475267819 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475268218 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475269330 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@vps.wolfy1339.com QUIT :Changing host < 1475269330 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1475269342 0 :nitrix!?@? NICK :MeMyselfAndI < 1475269381 0 :MeMyselfAndI!?@? NICK :nitrix < 1475269461 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the rule update bulletin for Magic: the Gathering, they mention that the first card that created any tokens did use the term "create", although they changed it and now they changed it back to "create". < 1475269525 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1475269525 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 4d 19h 58m 4s ago: hezzo38. are you unprovable? < 1475269526 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas said 4d 59m 1s ago: You know that Agner Fog's calling conventions manual http://www.agner.org/optimize/#manual_call_conv describes most of the details of the schemes used by popular C++ < 1475269526 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :compilers, right? In theory that allows you to call C++ functions, but \ < 1475269526 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas said 4d 58m 43s ago: it doesn't allow you to access a lot of structures defined by the C++ standard library, because the ABI for that is decided not by the mangling, but by the struct < 1475269526 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :declarations, inline function definitions, and other declarations and macro definitions in the headers, and Agner's manual doesn't describe that because it would be almost imp < 1475269527 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 3d 9h 32m 40s ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function#Higher-order_differentials < 1475269564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: As that page points out, d^2y/dx^2 = d(dy/dx)/dx + (dy/dx) d^2x/dx^2 < 1475269610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just d^2y = d(dy/dx) dx + (dy/dx) d^2x < 1475269613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1475269675 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I did read that now < 1475269742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like that? < 1475269767 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK now I can understand better < 1475269931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can? < 1475269944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you tell whether d^2x = 0? < 1475269955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is (dy/dx)^2 = (dy^2/dx^2)? < 1475270001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say d^2x = 0. Then (d^2y/dx^2)/((dy/dx)^2) = (d^2y/dx^2)/(dy^2/dx^2) = d^2y/dy^2? < 1475270029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If y = f(x), then d^2y/dy^2 would be f''(x)/f'(x)^2? < 1475270066 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475270891 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1475271326 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475271523 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475271945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475272546 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475273794 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475273802 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kryojcdmxyydwudd QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475274402 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475274432 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475274445 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475274597 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tazphjsoslqdrdra JOIN :#esoteric < 1475275761 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475275863 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475276059 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475276122 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475276202 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475276211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obell//The obell is what we ring each time a new strip of the o webcomic is published. < 1475276288 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When at library recently I have read book about GURPS; there is a lot of stuff there, but some things it doesn't seems to say such as about defining a group of powers that share the number of limited use per day, or limited number of uses per day of an attack that only expends a usage if the attack hits, or for an advantage or disadvantage to enable, disable, or alter another advantage or disadvantage < 1475276303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn OL stands for Original Lyrics. A person who sings songs unmodified is called an OList. < 1475276309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ol': OL stands for Original Lyrics. A person who sings songs unmodified is called an OList. < 1475276360 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like GURPS. it has Montréal as a city-state ^^ < 1475278730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475278768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date < 1475278770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fri Sep 30 22:39:17 UTC 2016 < 1475278787 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tazphjsoslqdrdra QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475278813 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-uejmfwjqpbcqnyab JOIN :#esoteric < 1475278838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Sixteen < 1475278861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am eagerly looking forward to my time of lordship hth < 1475278880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be The Year of Our Overlord < 1475278889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1475278891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4weevil bulgarian quack octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475278897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just the month, for now. < 1475278914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1475278924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Month of Our Lord October < 1475278932 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password of the month < 1475278933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password of the month? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475278939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1475278942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is au cœur de septembre < 1475278947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRAY THAT I DON'T MAKE IT A RED ONE < 1475278960 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :red? < 1475278967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 4red one < 1475278973 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :by all means go ahead... < 1475278982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: changing it before the month starts by HackEgo's time is scow, of course. < 1475278988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1475278994 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll just make me even more glad that I'm filtering colors. < 1475279033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is 04j08o09h11a12n13s04e08n < 1475279171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475279188 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what now? < 1475279191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append int-e Hen gillar inte färger. < 1475279195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'int-e': int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. Hen gillar inte färger. < 1475279239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is pleased to have spelled that correctly before checking
< 1475279262 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "he does not approve of colors"? < 1475279273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just "like"? < 1475279328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hen kommer att spränga solen? < 1475279329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly the latter < 1475279349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :heute die Welt, morgen das Sonnensystem < 1475279362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1475279364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is au cœur de septembre < 1475279410 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits password < 1475279418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan gamemanj int-e oerjan int-e oerjan mroman oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman_ < 1475279482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was not aware of the approve meaning. i have a hunch it might be archaic or very formal. any swedes who can tell? < 1475279490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a binary absolute value be like... < 1475279495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything even remotely like that? < 1475279502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same as the regular one. < 1475279504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(binary as in arity, not as in base) < 1475279539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds unintuitive. < 1475279574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you mean dyadic rather than monadic. < 1475279577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if you want a real number result, that's just a "norm". < 1475279579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475279590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It does, but if there's anything remotely like it it'd be nice. < 1475279624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you would interpret the two arguments as a point in the plane. < 1475279659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :euclidean norm is pretty common, and the same as complex absolute value. < 1475279666 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonwild is a place for closed, Euclidean Geometric shapes to exchange their nth terms for karma; showing off their edges in a comfortable environment without pressure. < 1475279669 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1475279683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmabo < 1475279734 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475279779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it could be a sort of... relative value? a||b is the distance of a from b without sign? < 1475279792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(making |a| equal to a||0) < 1475279802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"relative" doesn't sound right though... < 1475279807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just check what apl does < 1475279845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point... < 1475279859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL defines ∣B to be absolute value, and A∣B to be residue: B modulo A < 1475279887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well that's just abs(b-a) < 1475279901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yea < 1475279902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1475279908 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hellolsner. are you the Only Swede? < 1475279915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1475279919 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1475279919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter how trivial of a difference it is; a-b is just a+(-b) < 1475279922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1475279926 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1475279931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also FireFly < 1475279938 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.03.14 has context for the sun thing (13:51:25 ff.) < 1475279941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though whether a-b or -n came first is debatable...) < 1475279945 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firellofly. are you Both Swede? < 1475279951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about FireFly? < 1475279955 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had to remind myself) < 1475279962 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1475279965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: he's doing a lot of sweding < 1475279969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1475279974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1475279987 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how sweed of me? < 1475279997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: do you know if the "approve of" meaning of "gilla" is used in ordinary swedish?