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00:34:31 <oerjan> `? mothball
00:34:43 <HackEgo> Mothballs are the main ingredient of a traditional soup of eastern european origin.
00:35:32 <oerjan> `slwd mothball//s/ e/ E/g
00:35:35 <HackEgo> wisdom/mothball//Mothballs are the main ingredient of a traditional soup of Eastern European origin.
00:43:13 <ybden> Ew.
00:43:46 <oerjan> @ask boily may i recommend grep -r for your future wisdom/ searches?
00:43:46 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:43:55 <oerjan> `which rgrep
00:43:56 <HackEgo> ​/usr/bin/rgrep
00:44:13 <oerjan> `` ls -l /usr/bin/{,r}grep
00:44:15 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access /usr/bin/grep: No such file or directory \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 30 Jul 6 2011 /usr/bin/rgrep
00:44:26 <oerjan> `` ls -l /bin/grep
00:44:27 <HackEgo> ​-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 175488 May 13 2012 /bin/grep
00:44:39 <oerjan> `cat /use/bin/rgrep
00:44:39 <HackEgo> cat: /use/bin/rgrep: No such file or directory
00:44:44 <oerjan> `cat /usr/bin/rgrep
00:44:45 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ \ exec grep -r "$@"
00:44:52 <oerjan> figures.
00:45:57 <oerjan> oh hm
00:46:01 <oerjan> `? canary
00:46:02 <HackEgo> ​ELF...........>.....€H@.....@.......p¶..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....ø.......ø................. ...8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@.....¦......¦........ ............°­......°­a.....°­a.....Ì......P........ ...........È­......È­a.....È­a........................ ..
00:46:11 <ybden> ?!
00:46:12 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: v @ ? .
00:46:19 <ybden> No I did not
00:46:31 <shachaf> oerjan: why are you sending bels to the channel tdnh
00:46:31 <oerjan> `mk canary//EEP
00:46:33 <HackEgo> canary
00:46:42 <ybden> What is the meaning/purpose of canary?
00:46:53 <oerjan> shachaf: to check that it was a binary, so as to correct this fact.
00:47:10 <oerjan> ybden: it's a canary as in the old mine sense hth
00:47:15 <shachaf> can `? not print binary files twh
00:47:29 <ybden> oerjan: I don't see how
00:47:39 <oerjan> `rm canary
00:47:41 <HackEgo> No output.
00:47:44 <oerjan> `cat canary
00:47:47 <HackEgo> EEP
00:47:56 <ybden> No, I mean the canary wisdom
00:48:06 <ybden> `? canary
00:48:09 <HackEgo> EEP
00:48:12 <ybden> oh, yay
00:48:13 <oerjan> ybden: oh that. it's just a symbol link to the top one.
00:48:21 <ybden> ah.
00:48:26 <ybden> But why did it contain a binary?
00:48:47 <oerjan> because someone thought it was a good idea to make it one.
00:48:56 <oerjan> they were probably wrong.
00:49:50 <oerjan> shachaf: well we're not supposed to but binary files in wisdom/ anyway.
00:50:13 <shachaf> we're not supposed to, but binary files in wisdom/ anyway
00:50:20 <oerjan> *put
00:51:27 <izalove> can we please stop writing elf files to irc?
00:51:33 <izalove> it breaks my weechat every time
00:52:20 <oerjan> well need to occasionally encourage people to get a client that isn't a sitting duck (or canary)
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00:52:27 <oerjan> but perhaps not very often.
00:52:32 <oerjan> *we need
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00:56:25 <ybden> izalove: what do you mean by 'breaks'?
00:57:26 <izalove> if i use alt+L to get into raw mode, weechat will immediately revert back to normal mode and write 1;2c1;2c or some shit in my input line
00:58:01 * moonheart08 lol
00:58:06 <ybden> Yay for stupid escape sequences
00:59:03 <oerjan> wait, is "raw mode" a mode where you display literally whatever bytes were sent to the channel? sounds pretty dangerous.
00:59:29 <ybden> Yes...
00:59:48 <ybden> I wouldn't want to do that myself
00:59:49 <izalove> it's a quick way to hide any sidebars
01:00:13 <ybden> izalove: /clear to get rid of the elf maybe?
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01:01:36 <computing> moo
01:01:36 <izalove> i'll just unfriend oerjan on foursquare to teach him a lesson
01:01:48 * oerjan is slightly tempted to snark more about this but he'll just end up apologizing against.
01:02:01 <oerjan> what's foursquare
01:02:10 <izalove> a social network
01:02:18 <izalove> i think
01:02:27 <izalove> never used it
01:02:52 <oerjan> you can unfriend me on reddit if you like >:)
01:03:04 <oerjan> it's not like i post much.
01:03:05 <ybden> “I'm going to unfriend an internet person on this social network which I'm not actually a member of”
01:03:13 <ybden> :P
01:03:14 <izalove> that was the idea
01:04:03 <oerjan> i don't think stackoverflow has friending, those are the only things resembling social networks i'm on afair.
01:04:18 <izalove> let me unfollow you from github
01:04:20 <oerjan> *stackexchange
01:04:26 <oerjan> oh right, github
01:04:59 <oerjan> that'll also be pretty lightweight. i made a pull request to lambdabot the other day though...
01:05:32 <oerjan> and int-e seems to refuse merging it because i won't squash my first and second commits into one
01:06:16 <oerjan> (i'd have to learn how to use git first, i guess)
01:06:29 <oerjan> *download and
01:06:46 <izalove> let me show you a great example of how to git
01:06:59 <ybden> *turns into cranky old bloke*
01:07:04 <izalove> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/bash.git/log/?h=devel
01:07:19 <ybden> From the URL alone, I'm assuming this is sarcasm
01:07:41 <izalove> the most useful commit messages you'll ever see
01:07:51 <oerjan> very logical
01:07:52 <ybden> DEER GOD WHAT
01:08:56 <izalove> so glad git bisect exists
01:13:17 <izalove> i'm watching a cppcon video and there's a bald fat guy and he's been reading every value in a table with times and percentages in the past 10 minutes
01:13:24 <izalove> i'm about to kill myself
01:13:28 <pecan> RIP
01:13:49 <ybden> EIP
01:23:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Mcparadip * New user account
01:26:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49995&oldid=49234 * Albedo * (-39) /* Arithmetic operations */ Instruction M: minor error corrected
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02:31:49 <izalove> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rykmwn0SMWU they're really good at commercials
02:34:23 <ybden> Oooooo
02:34:42 <ybden> :D they put a 3.5mm headphone jack as a feature
02:35:28 <ybden> That is a very good commercial
02:35:35 <ybden> Funny how it basically looks like an iphone now
02:35:41 <ybden> but, sort of better
02:35:51 <ybden> “Did they just throw shade at the iPhone 7” yes, yes they did
02:36:47 <alercah> yeah the headphone jack thing is hilarious
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02:47:16 <izalove> blue phone looks like a toy tho
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03:02:17 <zzo38> GURPS has stuff about different comprehension levels of languages, as well as possibility for different comprehension level of writing with speeching (something Dungeons&Dragons doesn't have, but it ought to!), and even sign language. However, what Dungeons&Dragons does have but GURPS doesn't have, is specification of what languages share an alphabet.
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06:50:53 <hppavilion[1]> When's the FSF/GNU going to make a phone/
06:50:54 <hppavilion[1]> *?
06:51:18 <hppavilion[1]> (Presumably it will be based on brand-gnu technology. The hard 'g' messes that wordplay up a bit, doesn't it?)
06:51:31 <hppavilion[1]> @messages-proud
06:51:31 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1d 12h 55m 38s ago: * hppavilion[1] obtains lead foil hat, as tinfoil will not be strong enough <-- you need to go heavier. plutonium foil is where it's at.
06:51:31 <lambdabot> oerjan said 14h 43m 42s ago: your addition to `? scow ruins the joke, so i removed it.
06:51:39 <hppavilion[1]> @messages-hubris
06:51:39 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
06:51:53 <hppavilion[1]> What was my addition again?
06:51:58 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, yes Scheme or Racket.
06:58:01 <hppavilion[1]> When you set your theme in gmail to Terminal
06:58:18 <hppavilion[1]> It doesn't set all the fonts to obnoxious bright #00FF00 green
06:58:21 <hppavilion[1]> I am disappoint.
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07:03:41 <hppavilion[1]> https://allo.google.com/
07:03:54 <hppavilion[1]> Horrifying and going to kill coherent human communication
07:04:18 <\oren\> ✆✇✀₶₷₸₹₺⎖⎗⎘⎙⎚⎌⎍⎎⎏⎐⎑⎒⎓⎔⚶⚷⚸✹✺✻✼✽✾㆐㆑㆒㆓㆔㆕㆖㆗㆘㆙㆚㆛㆜㆝㆞
07:04:47 <hppavilion[1]> (See also: https://xkcd.com/1289/)
07:04:56 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: New fontnesses?
07:05:00 <\oren\> yup
07:05:24 <\oren\> I'm working on filling some coverage gaps
07:06:20 <\oren\> the above are the important characters, there are some others
07:06:40 <\oren\> but they are invisible characters
07:06:47 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Then why do 8 of the characters already render for me?
07:07:00 <hppavilion[1]> ✆✇✹✺✻✼✽✾
07:08:06 <\oren\> probably you have another font that supports them
07:08:19 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: They look pretty Neolettersy to me
07:08:26 <hppavilion[1]> And none of the other characters render
07:08:26 <\oren\> In this release I also added tengwar
07:08:29 <\oren\> 
07:08:32 <\oren\> 
07:08:35 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Tengwar?
07:08:53 <\oren\> the tengwar of feanor, used to write elvish languages
07:08:58 <hppavilion[1]> Ah!
07:09:00 <hppavilion[1]> Yay!
07:09:11 <hppavilion[1]> (are those unicode or private use area?)
07:09:18 <\oren\> private use
07:09:38 <hppavilion[1]> (zero-width spaces, hairline spaces, and three-per-em spaces are a big problem for monospace it would seem)
07:09:47 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Ah. Laaaaaaaaame for the Unicode foundation
07:10:06 <hppavilion[1]> @tell boily Now I have pizzas too mwahahahahahaha
07:10:06 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
07:10:24 <hppavilion[1]> (and em spaces, definitely)
07:12:09 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, would making shift+<space> insert a newline be a terrible, terrible idea?
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07:16:33 <zzo38> I think, probably
07:17:36 <\oren\>            
07:17:51 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: my font already includes a lot of spaces
07:18:30 <\oren\> they are simply displayed as small text telling you what kind of space it is
07:19:22 <hppavilion[1]> ENQ isn't a space...
07:20:51 <\oren\> `unicode  
07:20:54 <HackEgo> U+2000 EN QUAD \ UTF-8: e2 80 80 UTF-16BE: 2000 Decimal: &#8192; \   \ Category: Zs (Separator, Space) \ Bidi: WS (Whitespace) \ Decomposition: 2002
07:21:12 <\oren\> it's a type of space
07:21:19 <\oren\> `unicode  
07:21:20 <HackEgo> U+2001 EM QUAD \ UTF-8: e2 80 81 UTF-16BE: 2001 Decimal: &#8193; \   \ Category: Zs (Separator, Space) \ Bidi: WS (Whitespace) \ Decomposition: 2003
07:25:49 <hppavilion[1]> Dammit, I need to enter the Konami code...
07:26:03 <hppavilion[1]> But UP and LEFT are both nonfunctional
07:26:21 <hppavilion[1]> (But occasionally they inexplicably start working again)
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08:13:40 <hppavilion[1]> `? logic
08:13:41 <HackEgo> logic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
08:14:11 <hppavilion[1]> `learn Logic is just another tool that the true scotsMan uses to keep you down.
08:14:13 <HackEgo> Learned 'logic': Logic is just another tool that the true scotsMan uses to keep you down.
08:22:46 <hppavilion[1]> I'm listening to the Red Army Choir
08:22:54 <hppavilion[1]> And I swear they keep saying "America"
08:24:51 <hppavilion[1]> (Probably prefaced with Смерть?)
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09:10:04 <hppavilion[1]> http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/162/501/182.jpg is somehow related to CADbortion/loss, but I have no idea how
09:15:15 <hppavilion[1]> Maybe it has to do with the numbers?
09:15:25 <hppavilion[1]> I'm sure that when I see it, I'll shit brix.
09:16:31 <shachaf> do you think that wisdom entry improves the wisdom database
09:16:46 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: yes hth
09:16:55 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: It does
09:17:12 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: More than `? hth at least
09:17:13 <hppavilion[1]> `? hth
09:17:15 <HackEgo> hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
09:18:05 <hppavilion[1]> (Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm yet to see an actual definitive statement as to what is good for and what is bad for wisdom)
09:18:24 <shachaf> it's a matter of taste
09:18:36 <shachaf> the more similar to oerjan's taste, the better it is
09:20:49 <hppavilion[1]> Apparently it's exact form, but I don't quite see it
09:21:01 <hppavilion[1]> ...oh, I think I get it
09:21:08 <hppavilion[1]> Not particularly good honestly
09:21:31 <hppavilion[1]> (The map, not the wisdom thing)
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09:25:41 <hppavilion[1]> It's just... really really really vague
09:26:26 <hppavilion[1]> Like, apparently any use of the form <<[ | ] [ | | ] / [ | | ] [ | _ ]>> is somehow a hilarious reference
09:26:28 <hppavilion[1]> Or something
09:27:06 <shachaf> It's not particularly hilarious, and it would be best if it wasn't referred to.
09:28:22 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Yeah. Agreed.
09:29:08 <shachaf> (Which is what you were doing.)
09:29:31 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: I was complaining about how weird and obscure it was
09:29:41 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( `learn_ban <name>: `learn will no longer ever learn about <name> )
09:29:53 <hppavilion[1]> OK, never speaking of this again starting....... NOW!
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13:01:36 <ais523> https://www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/4ghmmt/emmental_is_an_esoteric_programming_language/d2iec1v?context=1
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14:12:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Quick dudley * New user account
14:39:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49996&oldid=49974 * Quick dudley * (+203) /* Introductions */
14:39:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Kinetosis]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49997 * Quick dudley * (+4469) Created page with "'''Kinetosis''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] descended from SICKBAY. ==Summary== A program consists of a series of lines. Each line consists of a line number (whi..."
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14:42:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Kinetosis]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49998&oldid=49997 * Quick dudley * (+4) Link to SICKBAY
14:43:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49999&oldid=49970 * BlueOkiris * (+55) /* Op Codes */
14:43:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50000&oldid=49989 * Quick dudley * (+16) /* K */
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15:08:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50001&oldid=49999 * BlueOkiris * (-7) /* Interpreter/Compiler */
15:10:26 <myname> why do people keep making brainfuck substitutions
15:19:30 <ybden> for the same reason that people use JS so much
15:19:35 <ybden> It's terrible, and it's popular
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15:27:23 <myname> shouldn't jsfuck be more popular then? :D
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17:47:09 <izalove> that's not terrible enough
17:47:46 <myname> it underlines the terrible parts of js pretty good
17:51:06 <ybden> I don't think it's popular enough either
17:52:51 <myname> it is pretty important for people that try to prevent xss through word filters
17:54:57 <ybden> lol
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17:57:29 <myname> why do you laugh
17:57:49 <myname> that's a real life security issue
18:03:43 <Zarutian> myname: xss stands for what in this context?
18:07:56 <pecan> cross site scripting hth hth
18:08:00 <pecan> (…probably…)
18:17:00 <zzo38> JavaScript is mainly my scripting language of choice
18:17:34 <zzo38> And I do not think it is so terrible; many improvements have been made, although I also think of a few other things that should be added
18:17:38 <myname> well, yeah, but you are zzo38
18:18:03 <Zarutian> what exactly does xss do?
18:21:17 <Zarutian> when I google it only blogspam is returned that says it is such an problem but never an explanation of it.
18:22:37 <zzo38> Did you try Wikipedia?
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18:30:02 <Phantom_Hoover> Zarutian, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_scripting
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18:31:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CALESYTA 2016]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50002 * B jonas * (+358) contest
18:41:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MiLambda]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50003 * Slnetaiga * (+2234) Created
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18:44:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50004&oldid=50000 * Slnetaiga * (+15) Added MiLambda
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18:48:22 <Zarutian> Phantom_Hoover, zzo38: yes but it didnt shed too much of a light for me on the thing.
18:50:01 <Zarutian> btw, Same Origin 'Policy' is based upon an flawed assumptions on what 'same origin' means.
18:52:25 <Zarutian> I found it very difficult to consistently instruct browser to treat certain embedded iframes as diffrent 'origin' for every instance of such, even though their scripts happen to be stored on the same server.
18:56:57 <int-e> `? marriage
18:57:05 <HackEgo> Marriage was made legal in the United States on 2015-06-26
19:20:09 <wob_jonas> ... that statement didn't make sense until I realized it's the other meaning of iframes
19:21:15 <fizzie> And *that* statement didn't make sense until I realized it had nothing to do with the marriage thing.
19:21:49 <moony> ^
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20:39:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50005&oldid=50001 * BlueOkiris * (+73) /* Op Codes */
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20:51:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50006&oldid=50005 * BlueOkiris * (+3597) /* Example Programs */
20:53:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50007&oldid=50006 * BlueOkiris * (+15) /* Op Codes */
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21:09:14 <boily> @massages-loud
21:09:14 <lambdabot> oerjan asked 20h 25m 28s ago: may i recommend grep -r for your future wisdom/ searches?
21:09:14 <lambdabot> hppavilion[1] said 13h 59m 7s ago: Now I have pizzas too mwahahahahahaha
21:09:48 <boily> @tell oerjan hellørjan. your recommendation is duly noted. hth, hand.
21:09:48 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:10:18 <boily> @tell hppavilion[1] hppavellon[1]. do you like anchovies?
21:10:18 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:10:35 <boily> @tell hppavilion[1] sorry, it was an @ask, not an @tell.
21:10:35 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:11:27 <boily> @tell quintopia QUINTHELLOPIA! THE BEER IS HAD! THANK YOU!
21:11:27 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:13:06 <boily> `wisdom
21:13:08 <HackEgo> gamemanj//gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything, except whether overthinking is wrong.
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21:33:25 <boily> moonheart08: mhelloony. how many moons do you have?
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21:46:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50008&oldid=50007 * BlueOkiris * (+174) /* Guess the Number (4-bit).nor */
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22:23:03 <hppavilion[1]> Unicode has copyleft, right?
22:23:12 <hppavilion[1]> @messages-hubris
22:23:12 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
22:23:16 <hppavilion[1]> @messages-proud
22:23:16 <lambdabot> boily said 1h 12m 58s ago: hppavellon[1]. do you like anchovies?
22:23:16 <lambdabot> boily said 1h 12m 41s ago: sorry, it was an @ask, not an @tell.
22:24:10 <hppavilion[1]> boily: No. Anyone who does shall be... quietly respected in their personal preferences, even though I disagree with their tastes
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22:25:44 <hppavilion[1]> Are there any more up-to-date databases similar to http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/ I could switch to?
22:26:55 <wob_jonas> hpp, dunno, try http://unicode.scarfboy.com/ or just the api functions from the libicu library http://site.icu-project.org/
22:27:06 <wob_jonas> the latter is definitely up to date (if you get the latest version obviously)
22:28:07 <hppavilion[1]> Maybe I'll just need to make my own little personal server for it...
22:28:31 <boily> hppavilion[1]: you are wrong, from a completely subjective and biased point of view. also, that means more anchovies for me ^^
22:28:44 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Good for you
22:29:00 <hppavilion[1]> boily: What about pineapple on pizza? Can we agree that THAT is terrible?
22:29:40 <wob_jonas> no! there's nothing wrong with pineapple on pizza, as long as the meat and cheese and tomato sauce are still also there
22:30:12 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: Yeah, actually, I've never had it. I feel like it might be fairly good though, assuming the pineapple isn't too large
22:30:14 <myname> i prefer peanut butter instead of tomato sauce on most pizzas
22:30:26 <myname> haven't tested it with pineapple though
22:30:34 <myname> i should
22:30:35 <hppavilion[1]> myname: ...I could see it, assuming the cheez is different too
22:30:41 <hppavilion[1]> (cheez: a totally real word)
22:31:07 <myname> peanut butter, marinated chicken, paprika, mozarella, pepper
22:31:11 <wob_jonas> in fact, pineapples also work without the pizza, on slice of fried turkey or chicken meat with cheese melted on it
22:31:13 <hppavilion[1]> wat
22:31:15 <myname> great pizza, would recommend
22:31:28 <hppavilion[1]> (To be fair, my father frequently eats sandwiches including ham & jelly)
22:31:29 <wob_jonas> myname: nah, peanut butter is too american for me
22:31:42 <boily> pineapple on pizza is great!
22:31:53 <hppavilion[1]> (And dips them in ketchup)
22:32:01 <myname> wob_jonas: think of it as an easy version of peanut sauce
22:32:06 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I'll have to try it sometime. My pizza today is just pepperoni though.
22:32:26 <boily> spinach on pizza is quite good too.
22:32:27 -!- hppavilion[1] has set topic: There is currently an esolang contest: http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | The international hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf.
22:32:50 <int-e> spinach is good, don't like pineapple, nor thuna...
22:33:06 <wob_jonas> how about pizza with bologna sauce and fried ground meat?
22:33:09 <int-e> (on pizza)
22:33:11 <hppavilion[1]> Has anybody ever actually made a pizza where the topping is smaller pizzas?
22:33:21 <boily> wob_jonas: ooooh, a québécoise!
22:33:25 <myname> also, i have to try pizza on naan onstead of pizza dough
22:33:27 <hppavilion[1]> Theoretically possible, but possibly not very good
22:33:32 <int-e> wob_jonas: that sounds unusual but should work
22:33:40 <wob_jonas> I like that, but only if it's made well, and some pizza places don't.
22:33:43 <int-e> (there must be cheese on top of course)
22:33:44 <hppavilion[1]> myname: At that point, it's naat pizza
22:33:48 <myname> hppavilion[1]: quite easy to do, not really good
22:34:13 <myname> also, pizza with pasta on top is terrible
22:34:18 <hppavilion[1]> Have we ever polled #esoteric's cat-per-person ratio?
22:34:23 <wob_jonas> (obviously still needs cheese)
22:34:38 <int-e> myname: or french fries
22:34:44 <boily> there's that place near home that does a mac'n'cheese pizza.
22:34:50 <hppavilion[1]> I have 3 cats, for all intents and purposes
22:34:52 <wob_jonas> how about sweet corn (maize) on pizza?
22:35:02 <boily> hppavilion[1]: no cat. I can't cat, because allergies.
22:35:02 <hppavilion[1]> (a 1:1 ratio)
22:35:03 <myname> int-e: never had these. sounds not very delicious but at least way easier to eat than pasta
22:35:17 <hppavilion[1]> boily: If I had cat allergies, I'd have cats anyway and it would be worth it
22:35:23 <hppavilion[1]> I'd just have an epipen IV
22:35:25 <wob_jonas> I have no cat. My brother does have one.
22:35:32 <myname> wob_jonas: sweet corn on everything
22:35:46 <hppavilion[1]> (especially if I lived in Canada where they don't cost $500 for no reason)
22:35:54 <int-e> wob_jonas: well, corn should not be the main topping
22:36:02 <myname> boily: i saw a recipe for mac&cheese-muffins i have to try some time
22:36:05 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( Maybe #esoteric needs an official international currency to discuss cost in )
22:36:20 <boily> myname: eh?
22:36:34 <int-e> (uh now I'm worried that there might be popcorn pizza)
22:36:54 <myname> int-e: that might work on peanut butter
22:36:56 <wob_jonas> int-e: sure. I need meat on every pizza, in fact, I need meat or some ostensibly meat-based product in every main course of the day
22:37:01 <wob_jonas> I'm a meatarian
22:37:04 <boily> hppavilion[1]: CAD is a good currency. it has the Queen on it!
22:37:07 <wob_jonas> (fish and liver also count as meat)
22:37:12 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Yeah?
22:37:15 <myname> peanut butter, popcorn, pumpkin pie spice. should work out
22:37:32 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I was going to go with something international, like the price of 1 gram of reactor-grade uranium
22:37:43 <hppavilion[1]> (Though that would be impractical)
22:37:49 <int-e> wob_jonas: carnivore?
22:38:08 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: I have never understood when people refer to fish as not meat.
22:38:09 <myname> .oO(ehat a wonderful day for canada and therefore for the rest of the world)
22:38:31 <hppavilion[1]> I really want English w-words for ordinality and cardinality
22:39:00 <hppavilion[1]> whount = cardinality, whum = ordinality?
22:39:05 <wob_jonas> also most sausage (except vegetarian one) and canned meat and párizsi and similar count as ostensibly meat-based product in a pinch, though of course I prefer real meat for main course most of the time
22:39:52 <hppavilion[1]> (To be clear, 'whount' is pronounced with an [h], 'whum' is always pronounced with a [hw], even when you aren't being fancy, just because it sounds better here)
22:40:18 <myname> I really want English to be left alone by hppavilion[1]
22:40:28 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Well, yes, that too
22:40:29 <wob_jonas> can't you just use "how many', "how manieth", "how many times" and "how manieth times"?
22:40:34 <hppavilion[1]> But it'll definitely go in my language
22:40:43 <int-e> wob_jonas: what about sea food? (say, shrimp)
22:40:58 <hppavilion[1]> "whum president is O'bama?" "44"
22:41:00 <moonheart08> rainbows
22:41:06 <myname> wob_jonas: that's not hip because it does not start with a w
22:41:20 <hppavilion[1]> moonheart08: Are you another moony altnick?
22:41:21 <myname> obviously, that is a requirement, bevause reasons
22:41:24 <boily> shrimp transcends the concept of meat.
22:41:36 <alercah> `? shrimp
22:41:36 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Shrimp is an entire animal hth
22:41:39 <HackEgo> shrimp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:41:46 <alercah> `learn shrimp transcends the concept of meat
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22:41:53 <HackEgo> Learned 'shrimp': shrimp transcends the concept of meat
22:42:02 <boily> alercahello!
22:42:04 <wob_jonas> int-e: I don't fancy that. it would count as meat I think, but since I don't eat it, I don't care. here we tease frenchmen and other foreigners for eating crab, shrimp, octopus, snail, and stuff.
22:42:05 <int-e> or salmon, that also works for me on pizza
22:42:41 <moonheart08> hppavilion[1], moonheart08 is my most common username on other sites and systems. yes
22:42:51 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
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22:43:20 <hppavilion[1]> nickswitching is annoying and confusing. Preferably, your nick should be the same with an occasional backup that is clearly linked
22:43:27 <hppavilion[1]> (e.g. hppavilion[2] is clearly an alt for hppavilion[1])
22:43:29 <wob_jonas> there's also the problem that most fish and seafood are somewhat expensive in Hungary (actually it's the reverse, all grains and fruit and dairy and normal meat based food are cheap in Hungary, but that makes it look like fish are expensive)
22:44:08 <myname> hppavilion[1]: language messing is annoying and confusing. preferably, your langiage matches with that of all the other people around you
22:44:17 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Yes, I know
22:44:29 <boily> cheese is expensive here :(
22:44:37 <hppavilion[1]> myname: I wasn't going to incorporate them into english, it was just a thought
22:44:42 <wob_jonas> so when I visit my brother in Sweden, I eat tasty fish, because every food is expensive there, but fish isn't more expensive than the other food
22:44:43 <myname> cheease should be expensive everywhere
22:45:22 <myname> because it is expensive to make
22:45:49 <hppavilion[1]> Weird to think that wob_jonas (along with everyone else on #esoteric) actually has family rather than just being a disembodied mind floating in the interwebz...
22:46:20 <hppavilion[1]> Quick question: When sarcastically referring to the internet historically, do you say "interarpz" or "arpawebz" or what?
22:46:34 * boily mapoles hppavilion[1] in the ætheral bits
22:46:52 <hppavilion[1]> (Well, for ARPANET; other bizarre and ancient precursors were probably available)
22:47:25 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I'm encoded in base ə hth
22:47:41 <int-e> boily: hmm, you made me look at the logs but was that really mapole-worthy?
22:48:20 <boily> int-e: my usual mapole victim isn't currently there, so I have to do a few practice swings to keep in shape.
22:49:34 <hppavilion[1]> For reference: e can be defined as basket((+), 0, inf, nocond, lambda n: 1/fact(n)), and ə can be defined as 1+basket((+), 0, inf, lambda n: n != 1, lambda n: 1/subfact(n))
22:50:03 <hppavilion[1]> (Basket being a generalization of big-sigma and big-pi (and big-union/intersection/etc))
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23:29:03 <quintopia> sooooo
23:29:16 <myname> ooooooooooooo
23:29:24 <izalove> eeeeeeeeeh
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23:30:12 <quintopia> boily: did the granola spoil
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23:32:07 <oerjan> boheily. quintophia.
23:34:24 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, so ARPANET is etymologically related to DARPA. As I thought
23:34:30 <hppavilion[1]> DARPA was formerly known as ARPA
23:35:44 <hppavilion[1]> My dad's roommate refuses to believe the internet in any form existed before the year 2000
23:35:50 * int-e looks for cover from ricocheting mapoles.
23:37:28 <oerjan> ricochetting from what
23:37:37 <oerjan> @messages-proud
23:37:37 <lambdabot> boily said 2h 27m 48s ago: hellørjan. your recommendation is duly noted. hth, hand.
23:37:50 <oerjan> er
23:37:58 <boily> er?
23:38:00 <int-e> oerjan: from boily's target practice earlier
23:38:29 <myname> https://twitter.com/JamieSkella/status/787043558410813440
23:39:15 <oerjan> hm apparently both one and two t's are allowed.
23:39:28 <int-e> myname: I would prefer the conference to be *for* chatbots, not *about* them.
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23:55:07 <hppavilion[1]> The proper solution to http://xkcd.com/541/ is to use the alternative square-emoji
23:55:17 <boily> quintopia: it's a little bit hard. seems edible, but I can't eat anymore today... dim sum happened.
23:55:17 <hppavilion[1]> "Linux (or BSD :]) would..."
23:55:35 <hppavilion[1]> Well, maybe. Still a little weird.
23:55:39 <myname> that's different semantics
23:57:18 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Me?
23:57:28 <hppavilion[1]> Or int-e?
23:57:41 <myname> you
23:57:57 <hppavilion[1]> myname: How so?
23:58:09 <hppavilion[1]> Is there a difference between :) and :] I don't know aobut?
23:58:11 <hppavilion[1]> *about?
23:58:35 <hppavilion[1]> :] looks a bit more fat-kid-in-a-candy-store than :), I guess?
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