< 1478044801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ü': ü is the second derivative of the letter 'u' with respect to time. < 1478044802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or something) < 1478044832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: host is DNS lookup. -m is the debugging option. not sure what the x argument does, the man page doesn't list it. < 1478044832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one represent the derivative of a variable 'i' or 'j' with respect to time, I wonder? < 1478044850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, -t mx is lookup of mail records. < 1478044895 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is retroactively blinded by the tachionic flash of sudden hindsillumination
< 1478044923 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your priorities are misaligned. you should always be prepared to hmong hth < 1478044935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ü r üsing töö mäny ümlaüts tdnh < 1478044938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ü': ü r üsing töö mäny ümlaüts tdnh < 1478044939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm always prepared, I just haven't needed to hth < 1478044972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I added a binding for ü and Ü to my keyboard. Not sure why < 1478044985 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably so I can say "über" whenever I want to and look schmancy? < 1478044993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1478044999 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :preparation is practice. practice makes perfect. you know what else begins with p? pterodactyl. I rest my case. < 1478045019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what do blind people get when they reconsider past actions based on newew information and approaches? < 1478045021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*newer < 1478045035 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/{u,ü}* < 1478045038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/ü*: No such file or directory \ wisdom/u \ wisdom/uaneb \ wisdom/ub \ wisdom/umlaut \ wisdom/uncyclopedia \ wisdom/unicide \ wisdom/unicode \ wisdom/union \ wisdom/united states \ wisdom/universal property \ wisdom/universe \ wisdom/unlambda \ wisdom/unréliable \ wisdom/urbandictionary \ wisdom/ursala \ wisdom/usa \ wisdo < 1478045055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1478045066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word "umlaut" makes me sad < 1478045090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1478045095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1478045117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1478045125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should clearly be either ümlaut or ümläüt. < 1478045128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: canary is still gone tdnh < 1478045135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1478045138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls canary < 1478045138 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access canary: No such file or directory < 1478045139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and our `learns aren't taking < 1478045144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir canary < 1478045145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478045165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: after some thinking, i think that trick is entirely useless < 1478045199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it won't actually prevent the canary from being deleted, it just leaves the repo and directory inconsistent < 1478045200 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been following -- what did you invent now? < 1478045207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1478045207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^canary/ < 1478045214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l tmp < 1478045215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Nov 1 07:29 tmp -> canary < 1478045226 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ü < 1478045227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ü? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478045228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: shachaf got a bright idea but it's not really doing what it was intended, i think. < 1478045234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i invented a way to delete canary hth < 1478045236 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1478045248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("üm̈l̈äüẗ" is technically correct but discouraged) < 1478045272 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lightly shakes hppavilion[1] to disperse the rampant diæreses
< 1478045289 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn ü/ü is the second derivative of the letter 'u' with respect to time. < 1478045291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ü': ü is the second derivative of the letter 'u' with respect to time. < 1478045297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ü < 1478045298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ü is the second derivative of the letter 'u' with respect to time. < 1478045301 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. < 1478045306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've never been clear on whether di(ae|æ)resis is supposed to have æ < 1478045310 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a little tempted to add a patch to disallow .hgignore modification to the list of pending changes, it seems to be more trouble than its worth. < 1478045317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yes < 1478045332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you fix it as containing ^tmp/ , then? < 1478045354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just needs to contain .hgignore < 1478045355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the ^canary/ version is too troublesome. < 1478045360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :P < 1478045362 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-emnpzaehxxmlvsmf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478045367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT SURE THAT WORKS < 1478045375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk .hgignore//^tmp/ < 1478045378 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.hgignore < 1478045384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm tmp; mkdir tmp < 1478045386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `tmp': Is a directory \ mkdir: cannot create directory `tmp': File exists < 1478045388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says "does" can never be written "dœs". < 1478045396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l tmp < 1478045397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 < 1478045414 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you can ligature, lig it. < 1478045435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -rf canary; mk 'canary//cat: canary: No such file or directory' < 1478045437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1478045438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION disagræs, as e can and dœs
< 1478045442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hth < 1478045459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like "æ" should make the [ei] sound, or at least [e]. < 1478045487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, someone needs to wake up Gregor. < 1478045518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in English, it usually makes [ɛ], and it's [æ] in IPA < 1478045536 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did manage to set up the letsencrypt thing so that https://esolangs.org/... will continue to work; the old StartSSL certificate was due to expire. < 1478045537 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tlenreldnumumkys QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478045585 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, ü is a smily face < 1478045622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if you do that, could you also disallow outright deleting the tmp/ directory? that was what started this whole ^canary/ attempt... < 1478045652 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ubkrfdgpphhlmqko JOIN :#esoteric < 1478045665 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the RIDICULOUSLY HAPPY FACE < 1478045685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because emptying it is fine, but completely disappearing breaks commands. < 1478045792 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e4390e.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478045811 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn ü/ü is the ridiculously happy derivative of the letter ‘u’ with respect to time. < 1478045813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'ü': ü is the ridiculously happy derivative of the letter ‘u’ with respect to time. < 1478045818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody who gets a word like "æroplane", "Encyclopædia", "Archæ", etc. and DOESN'T spell it with an "æ" makes me sad < 1478045839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a spelling bee. Forgot to add that while constantly searching for more wærds) < 1478045863 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE\\OREN\. YOU SOUND HAPPY. < 1478045890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe wœrds?) < 1478045901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What I REALLY need is an ao...) < 1478045910 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1478045955 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478045994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Welsh lets you write IJ as a single symbol, iirc. See https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/%C4%B2_uppercase_ligature.svg hth < 1478046053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꬱ is... interesting. It's an æ, but with schwa rather than e. < 1478046060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* reverse schwa) < 1478046065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(** reversed) < 1478046096 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e4390e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1478046237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must... find... øe ligature... < 1478046253 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ubkrfdgpphhlmqko QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478046257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It may be of use to you < 1478046292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ü//s/der/second der/ < 1478046294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ü//ü is the ridiculously happy second derivative of the letter ‘u’ with respect to time. < 1478046386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, unicode should be more combinational than it is; at the moment, it's just throw-everything-in-a-bag-and-give-it-a-number. Preferable would be to make more modular characters (like diacritical ones, but extended. And no precomposed characters, dammit.) < 1478046444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is apparently a company with an Ø̈ in its name < 1478046513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely, several hth < 1478046521 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1478046964 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1478047092 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1478047159 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478047186 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp3 < 1478047397 0 :heroux!sandroco@507081C4.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1478047401 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me boily < 1478047437 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tell you. < 1478047478 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you write a program < 1478047499 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to output a decimal number < 1478047506 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in aubergine < 1478047612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you notice it's a Ø with an umlaut? < 1478047627 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1478047628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a Ø? an Ø? Probably an Ø, but I'm not sure...) < 1478047633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: good question. thinking... < 1478047637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ø̈ < 1478047637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00D8 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS] < 1478047662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the umlaut happens to completely overlap it, so it's invisible in putty hth < 1478047683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to invent a new curse word from my list of every 4-letter word fitting a set of simple structures, including many with special characters < 1478047747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gäap̈ < 1478047754 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reminded by D[ou]bbeldusch, using the same logo in all scandinavian countries but having it read as Dobbeldusch in some and Dubbeldusch in others < 1478047768 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :re. the ø^H¨ < 1478047822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: too bad "dusch" isn't the correct spelling in norwegian < 1478047968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* hppavilion[1] is considering S^S for some set S <-- that has the same cardinality as 2^S if S is infinite hth < 1478047982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdh < 1478047986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i may have mentioned that already < 1478047998 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, too bad < 1478048007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tøñg. < 1478048015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's dusj) < 1478048023 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.lyko.se/globalassets/product-images/dubbeldusch-fresh--1482-101-0250_1.jpg?ref=422023 I always though their [ou] was clever < 1478048036 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: maybe something inspired by http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#Print_value_of_cell_x_as_number_for_ANY_sized_cell_.28ie_8bit.2C_16bit.2C_etc.29 < 1478048039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably works in danish though < 1478048078 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: aubergine has to loop over the individual digits until zero, add 0x30 to each of them, then print in reverse. < 1478048134 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you tried the Canadien Multilingue Standard layout? great umlauty opportunities! < 1478048143 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it maybe different in nynorsk, or dusj in both? < 1478048147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, really? :D < 1478048152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've been making my own layout < 1478048192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Identical to US QWERTY on the surface, but with altgr for lots of frequently-useful characters) < 1478048211 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also us-international < 1478048217 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bunch of other ones < 1478048233 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I went the "let's roll my own" way too < 1478048246 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i dont think the bf algos work < 1478048250 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on svorak-a1 instead of us qwerty though < 1478048267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: same in bokmål & nynorsk afaik < 1478048269 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :most require a number of cells proportional to the digits < 1478048275 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah okay < 1478048286 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine had a small fixed number of cells < 1478048292 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. < 1478048296 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. < 1478048311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nynorsk would be slightly _more_ unlikely to use sch, i think. < 1478048658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do Canadians say "eh" in your region? < 1478048680 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, we say «là». < 1478048686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, yes < 1478048697 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. < 1478048701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought they said "tsé"
< 1478048725 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eille, tsé, là là... < 1478048760 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we also say «hein». it's a nice nasal, which you can hear if you call me! < 1478048763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my region people say "sjø", although i don't share that dialect) < 1478048783 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the sjø ingressive? < 1478048799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so. < 1478048824 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478048837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that applies more to "ja" around oslo < 1478048888 0 :hue!hue@zirc/eclipse QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478048903 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1478048915 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478048985 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478048996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( alas ) < 1478049024 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478049057 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1478049069 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( unalas ) < 1478049100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds it very slightly annoying that tatham's Net puzzle starts the keyboard marker in the central light, rather than in the upper left where nearly all the other games do, and where he'd much rather start.
< 1478049169 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478049206 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TRUTH CHICKEN < 1478049315 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478049337 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478049387 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1478049399 0 :hue!hue@zirc/eclipse JOIN :#esoteric < 1478049525 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478049762 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1478049880 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1478049916 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1478049922 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478050676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there a name for "a perfect nonzero natural power of a prime"? <-- prime power is the usual term i think < 1478050729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you mean perfect number, in which case i think there aren't any < 1478050766 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478050804 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I mainly associate ingressive "jo" with northern sweden < 1478050835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( it's only a matter of time before someone pastes that youtube link... ) < 1478051447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I'll put 7.3 × 10²² kg. <-- i fear this may throw off the precious center of mass tdnh < 1478051447 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1478051510 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1478051524 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my esolang concept i posted? < 1478051527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloonythedwarf < 1478051559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the part where ais523 claimed it inconsistent < 1478051573 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478051599 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :![?])[?] you derp < 1478051657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never derp it upsets my stomach hth < 1478051672 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478051728 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ![?])[?] is a good example of a undecidable proogram in it (aka halts if and only if it doesnnt halt) < 1478051856 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1478051926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points godel to moonythedwarf_'s undecidable language
< 1478051942 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar PRIVMSG #esoteric :2mm < 1478051946 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I see it? < 1478051988 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im on mobile and cant get the doc link, oerjan xan you find the google doc link for me pls? kthx < 1478052023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUJvkuB5j6Km6CoxprBmzGzYg0Kp7h-Z13eWx5GJOwE/edit?usp=sharing < 1478052043 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :godel ^ < 1478052066 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1478052119 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :![?])[?] is a good example of a paradoxical program. it only halts if it doesnt hal < 1478052160 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*PARADOXIFY* < 1478052348 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on th other hand, i beleive this language can simulate a turing machine(more specifically a oracle machine) < 1478052403 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think? < 1478052630 0 :moonythedwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1478052722 0 :moony!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478053127 0 :moony!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does a undecidable + uncomputable (read: paradoxical) esolang belong on the wiki? < 1478053348 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wvuqkyiupztfemsv JOIN :#esoteric < 1478053405 0 :moony!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1478053588 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1478053668 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: why not < 1478053999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: note that there's a difference between undecidable and truly paradoxical - in the latter, you cannot even _define_ what the correct outcome is. < 1478054016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+case < 1478054032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is sure he _thought_ "case". why didn't he type it?
< 1478054076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm dropping so many words these days that it looks like i have bad grammar :( < 1478054208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: and if you cannot _define_ what a program does, then it makes no sense to ask whether it's TC. < 1478054230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1478054785 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm not saying whether or not your language is that paradoxical, mind you.) < 1478055213 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478055396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god... < 1478055408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to see what would happen, I put in θ as a variable name in Python < 1478055411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it didn't complain < 1478055415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, the IDE didn't) < 1478055416 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478055533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let θ="Stop that!" in var θ < 1478055535 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stop that! < 1478055560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lambdabot complained hth < 1478055595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ........not exactly sure what just happened. < 1478055606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think you made god cry < 1478055618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :again? < 1478055671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks hppavilion[1] is easily confused
< 1478055973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type dot < 1478055977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found < 1478055979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1478055982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which dot < 1478055983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478055996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing graphviz isn't installed < 1478056016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dots Do you want this? < 1478056017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dots: not found < 1478056021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1478056027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts Do you want this? < 1478056028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dö ÿöü ẅänẗ ẗḧïs? < 1478056030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it would conflict with timestamped, reversed file history, without including removed files < 1478056063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/dots < 1478056064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/dots: No such file or directory < 1478056071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ööps < 1478056075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/döts < 1478056075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ print_args_or_input "$@" | sed -re "y/aehiotuwxyAEHIOUWXY/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿÄËḦÏÖÜẄẌŸ/" < 1478056099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not combining dot above < 1478056119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure. < 1478056151 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining maths above < 1478056154 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1478056155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1478056161 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1478056162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1478056167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Taneb invent combining characters? < 1478056170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1478056176 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? special relativity < 1478056177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :special relativity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478056182 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, because it's too long? < 1478056210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dragons < 1478056211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dragons? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478056224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all the undefined tanebventions tdnh < 1478056227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(taneb did not help) < 1478056288 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478056311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg tanebvention | grep 'special|dragon' < 1478056314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478056325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg tanebvention | egrep 'special\|dragon' < 1478056327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478056330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1478056339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg tanebvention | egrep special < 1478056341 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9258:2016-10-13 slwd tanebvention//s#the triverse#special relativity# < 1478056346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg tanebvention | egrep dragon < 1478056348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9481:2016-10-27 slwd tanebvention//s#sand#&, dragons# < 1478056404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're on probation hth < 1478056489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: glad to hear that they have probative value < 1478057302 0 :moony!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478057325 0 :moony!?@? NICK :Guest98370 < 1478057356 0 :Guest98370!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Client Quit < 1478058294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478063145 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478063414 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:4439:d0ea:375d:a0a8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478064536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478064601 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478064824 0 :heroux!sandroco@507081C4.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478064864 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jcfipyuffgckjxpl JOIN :#esoteric < 1478065122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out how one could possibly have a person outside of {0, 1, 2, 3} (in ANY language, not just when constrained by english) < 1478065244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As a refresher: 1 := personal pronouns; "I/me" performs the actions; 3 := other person; "e/em" or variant performs the actions; 2 := listener; "you" perform the actions; 0 := null; whodunnit isn't referenced (not available in normal English)) < 1478065371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you might have a that/this distinction in the third... < 1478065400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. distinguishing other close and other far away < 1478065407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Doesn't Spivak technically include inanimate objects? < 1478065409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, NVM < 1478065415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought of that; maybe < 1478065445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'd be awkward to decide whether or not a character being omnisciently narrated should be referenced as distant or near < 1478065454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the plural ones should properly involve subsets; e.g. some languages distinguish inclusive and exclusive "we" < 1478065457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, I take that back, that would be a powerful tool for writers...) < 1478065461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1478065480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: A language with plural "you"; plural second person < 1478065489 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's the reflexive pronouns. < 1478065538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? < 1478065957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, those. I thought those were just variants on the other pronouns for different contextual usage? < 1478066016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in english, yes. but some languages use the same reflexive pronoun for all persons. < 1478066033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1478066040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. czech. < 1478066047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...like "yourself" or "himself? < 1478066060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s,\?,"?, < 1478066103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1478066125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc. wiktionary doesn't seem to have the word i remembered. < 1478066205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/svoj#Serbo-Croatian looks equivalent. < 1478066298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that's possessive. trying to find if it's true for non-possessives too... < 1478066304 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:4439:d0ea:375d:a0a8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478066331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, found the russian one https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%8F#Russian < 1478066420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presumably this is a common slavic feature. norwegian and german have reflexive pronouns but they're only for third person (all genders and numbers though) < 1478066423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1478066440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no:seg de:sich) < 1478066470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :these pronouns have so many rules < 1478066479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but possessives are nine tenths of the rules < 1478066730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that may be a _little_ exaggerated. but given that the possessives are inflected like adjectives but the others like nouns (well, very irregular ones), maybe 3/4. < 1478066771 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 100% exaggerated and not serious hth < 1478066779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linguistic annoyance: Proper nouns in the form of a possessive. < 1478066781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1478066871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, McDonald's (the restaurant). Pluralizing it is hard enough, but what's REALLY annoying is to try to discuss something belonging to the company. Or a thing belonging to individual establishments, but which many establishments have... X = McDonald's; Xs'. McDonald's'? < 1478066945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't "s'" only used for possessivizing plurals < 1478066955 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:4867:c34c:b89b:ea78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1478066967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes < 1478067013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1478067030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But I'm referring to a thing owned by multiple establishments, or where each establishment owns a similar thing; like the parking lot. "McDonald's' parking lots are always dirty." < 1478067065 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When referring to multiple McDonald's restaurants, I would be inclined to say McDonalds' < 1478067065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pronounce roughly like z-z-z) < 1478067065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely that should be McDonald'ses' hth < 1478067077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what oerjan said < 1478067087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I would too, but what if I want to refer to something that they all own? < 1478067099 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would leave the possessive as-is. < 1478067106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In general, what if I want to refer to something McDonald's possesses? < 1478067113 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"McDonalds' parking lots are always dirty" < 1478067118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's something owned by some guy named McDonald < 1478067136 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's something owned by several McDonalds. < 1478067196 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Enough of this madness's's. < 1478068467 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1478069246 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478069428 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1478069949 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478071267 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1478072788 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1478075425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478075814 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1478078922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1478078922 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1478078938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy end of the long weekend < 1478082818 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478084091 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1478084097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tall//A Tall proof is a proof with a small hole, which can only be filled by another Tall proof. < 1478084099 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1478084099 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 9h 4m 11s ago: I'll put 7.3 × 10²² kg. <-- i fear this may throw off the precious center of mass tdnh < 1478084203 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan hellørjan. only slightly. as the proverb says, "trust me, I'm an engineer". < 1478084203 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1478084274 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( how can I @tell moony something... ) < 1478084628 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :try @tell moony something... < 1478084634 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1478084763 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izellove. moony has many nicks; do I have to @tell to every one of them? < 1478084804 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only the nick moony will use the next time < 1478084812 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1478084877 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1478084958 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell moony mhelloony. < 1478084958 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1478084969 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell moonythedwarf mhelloonythedwarf. < 1478084969 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1478084979 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell moonheart08 moonhellort08. < 1478084979 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1478084988 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's start small, then adapt. < 1478085912 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ANNEALED CHICKEN < 1478087377 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1478087698 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1478088909 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478091274 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478091275 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo4 < 1478091293 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1478091294 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 1h 45m 35s ago: mhelloony. < 1478091300 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olol < 1478091854 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive? < 1478091868 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1478091872 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1478091874 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478091882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mips//MIPS Is Popular in Schools. < 1478091889 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, i made a thing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUJvkuB5j6Km6CoxprBmzGzYg0Kp7h-Z13eWx5GJOwE/edit?usp=sharing < 1478092255 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1478092498 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so confusing, all these similar English words with "q" in them and some meaning related to destroy or crush or suppress. "squeeze", "squish", "squash", "quash", "quell", "quench" (this last one means to put out a fire). < 1478092580 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478092624 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"quash" is the one I just read now I don't recall having seen before, but since they're so confusingly similar I might just have forgetten that particular one < 1478092675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sort of thing works differently for me than for most native English speakers, since I listen to English very little and so pay attention to the spelling of words way more than the pronunciation. < 1478094308 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1478094564 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tornadoes again. < 1478094571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in xkcd) < 1478094641 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478095175 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend the android app "the sequence" to anybody who likes bullying automatons < 1478097086 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ayacc < 1478097087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from http://nethack4.org/media/alex/ayacc/ayacc.pl < 1478097096 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the location has to be updated < 1478097901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlpris mips < 1478097902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cwlpris: not found < 1478097909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits mips < 1478097911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän ellioẗt oerjän boil̈y < 1478097921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg mips < 1478097922 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4531:2014-03-16 revert \ 4530:2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 4034:2013-11-20 learn MIPS Is Popular in Schools. \ 4033:2013-11-20 learn MIPS Is Popular In Schools. < 1478097933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hlnp < 1478097933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :revset='tip:0 & ! (9071 | 9070 | 5897 | 5895 | 9075 | 9074)' \ hg log -r "$revset" "$@" | sed 's/\(<[^>]*\)\([^>]>\)/\1̈\2/' < 1478097956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/hlnp//1s#..$# | 4530 | 4531&# < 1478097959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hlnp//revset='tip:0 & ! (9071 | 9070 | 5897 | 5895 | 9075 | 9074 | 4530 | 4531)' \ hg log -r "$revset" "$@" | sed 's/\(<[^>]*\)\([^>]>\)/\1̈\2/' < 1478097972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg mips < 1478097974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4034:2013-11-20 learn MIPS Is Popular in Schools. \ 4033:2013-11-20 learn MIPS Is Popular In Schools. < 1478097988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mipis < 1478097989 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mipis? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478098005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn MIPIS is Persecuted In Schools. < 1478098007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'mipi': MIPIS is Persecuted In Schools. < 1478098019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn MIPIS Is Persecuted In Schools. < 1478098021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'mipi': MIPIS Is Persecuted In Schools. < 1478098024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1478098034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that new? < 1478098038 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only I'm not sure what the new url was. I think it was mercurial-only, but don't know the exact url < 1478098049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/mipi{,s} < 1478098051 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478098061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this is one no one uses `learn hth < 1478098067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why < 1478098088 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1478098090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1478098118 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something like http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc/ but I'm not sure what < 1478098120 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1478098130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know? < 1478098170 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! wait < 1478098185 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a darcs repository, not a mercurial one < 1478098794 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ayacc/ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc < 1478098794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/ayacc/ayacc: Not a directory \ Learned 'ayacc/ayacc': ayacc/ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc < 1478098801 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1478098811 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn ayacc/ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc < 1478098813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'ayacc': ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc < 1478098820 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ayacc < 1478098821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc < 1478098822 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1478099545 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2016-11/msg00005.html buffer overflow in bash and the proof of concept is [.[.* < 1478099551 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 fucking characters < 1478100544 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wvuqkyiupztfemsv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1478100791 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1478100881 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478101425 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478102069 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aisventions? < 1478102070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aisventions?? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478102072 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aisventions < 1478102073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aisventions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478102075 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aisvention < 1478102076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aisvention? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478102084 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ais523vention < 1478102085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523vention? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478102089 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? avention < 1478102091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avention? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478102094 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba < 1478102206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? orinventions < 1478102207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orinventions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478102283 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? orenvention < 1478102284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenvention? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478102285 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1478102286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1478102294 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a see also < 1478102296 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? \oren\ < 1478102297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\oren\ is an attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability, and it made everything else... well, there isn't much else in a nick, is there? < 1478102299 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1478102300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters. < 1478102306 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alercah < 1478102307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478105502 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Changing host < 1478105502 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@unaffiliated/digitalcold JOIN :#esoteric < 1478106160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478106302 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1478107104 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:1db0:1d4f:16e9:7131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478107935 0 :spiette!~spiette@216.98.60.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478108927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't "Contrast" just be "Pare"? < 1478108942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, alternatively, "compare" becoming "trast") < 1478109061 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellovilion[1] < 1478109090 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUJvkuB5j6Km6CoxprBmzGzYg0Kp7h-Z13eWx5GJOwE/edit?usp=sharing < 1478109094 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be frige instead of fridge? < 1478109866 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478109988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478110771 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1478111262 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1478111429 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: why? < 1478111432 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478111442 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fridge is short for refridgerator < 1478111488 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? i only know refrigerator < 1478111499 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478112068 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :geirha | The best fix for tomcat is rm -- llua | one of apache's missteps, like the apache webserver. < 1478112142 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :truth < 1478112293 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Shouldn't it be Wikipædia? )
< 1478112309 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1478112516 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478113636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations! You win a video targeted at people with a fetish for cones full of yellow kernels! < 1478113716 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:1db0:1d4f:16e9:7131 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1478113894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god. In English, a sentence can be additionally emphasized by adding more exclamation points!!! < 1478113896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1478113920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One must wonder what happens when you do it in spanish. do they have to balance, or..? < 1478113938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a pun < 1478113948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's a punctuation < 1478113954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that didn't change the spelling at all < 1478113958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUNctuation < 1478115633 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478116031 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478116234 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478116330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the adjective form of triangle (other than "triangular") better spelled "triangly" or "triangley"? < 1478116333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going with the latter < 1478116442 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1478116556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478116565 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just use 'triangular'? < 1478116878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: "triangle?y" sounds more childish < 1478117096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07OOo CODE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50071&oldid=41109 5* 03Trecio 5* (+53) 10Credits to the real author of included HELLO WORLD program. < 1478118146 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1478118496 0 :shalashaska33!~shalashas@gateway-us.privatoria.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478118498 0 :shalashaska33!~shalashas@gateway-us.privatoria.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1478118697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trianglish < 1478118720 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangleriffic < 1478118726 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dreieckig < 1478118777 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :三角的 < 1478118798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sankakuteki) < 1478118912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478118914 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trianglian < 1478118953 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangelic < 1478119045 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tringlish < 1478119260 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized my font has accidental vertical ligatures < 1478119264 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1478119265 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1478119509 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478119858 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vertical ligatures don't sound that useful < 1478120169 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478120208 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478120243 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why it's possible for a video to be out of sync with the audio < 1478120248 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the format should be something like |FRAME|1/60s of audio|FRAME|1/60s of audio.... < 1478120347 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that each frame and its corresponding audio are directly known < 1478120372 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the audio and video are typically recorded separately (one using a camera, the other using the microphone) < 1478120386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when they're combined into a single container, sometimes the input is misaligned so the output is misaligned too < 1478120469 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478120727 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1478120960 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478121308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478121309 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478121709 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478121729 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478121809 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478121842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... is a vector in non-euclidean space an Elliptic Vector or Parabolic vector (depending on how non-euclidean the space is)? < 1478121940 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478121967 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1478122671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a vector in non-euclidean space twh < 1478123585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A euclidean vector is a vector in euclidean space, where here "euclidean space" means a space like that used in Euclidean geometry (though, usually with more numeric coordinates). A vector in non-euclidean space is a vector in a space that behaves like that used in non-euclidean geometry. < 1478123606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1478123611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Which part? < 1478123616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what a vector space is. < 1478123627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a "non-euclidean space"? < 1478123634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a vector space? < 1478123671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (1) Space that behaves like non-euclidean geometry, where parallel lines either cross (Elliptical) or have a closest point (Hyperbolic) (2) Probably? < 1478123714 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting, brb < 1478123715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Non-Euclidean Vector" seems like it would be a better term for it, but that could easily be interpreted as "a vector which is not a Euclidean vector") < 1478123736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of vector space is it? < 1478123740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, "Euclidean space" is a real thing, right? I didn't conflate it with some other last name? < 1478123749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1478123813 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478123841 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478123877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, from wikipedia: "In geometry, Euclidean space encompasses the two-dimensional euclidean plane, the three-dimensional space of Euclidean geometry, and certain other spaces". Non-euclidean space would encompass the equivalents for non-Euclidean geometry. < 1478123919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...to be clear, the "Euclidean" in "Euclidean vector" specifically indicates that it's in Euclidean space, right? I assumed it did, but it might not... < 1478123953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"space" can have lots of meaning. < 1478123971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can give Euclidean space lots of different structure, such as a vector space or a topological space. < 1478123990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know what a non-Euclidean finite-dimensional vector space over R would be. < 1478124001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because every finite-dimensional vector space over R is Euclidean.) < 1478124055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, depending on what Euclidean means.) < 1478124063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is why I don't know what it means.) < 1478124080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know. < 1478124100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not true. < 1478124284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-75.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478125388 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478125516 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.pxtst.com/99f5d.png < 1478125516 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.pxtst.com/49734.png < 1478125516 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.pxtst.com/20310.png < 1478125516 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.pxtst.com/fcb40.png < 1478125524 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no spam, pls dont ban) < 1478125574 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its slides from my vid < 1478126602 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478126631 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478126963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478127018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few weeks ago, we were talking about harm(onic plus)/Parallel Sum < 1478127050 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1478127052 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gna < 1478127164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's an equivalent to the hyperoperations for it (Normally, H(1, a, b) = a+b; this is R(1, a, b) = a(+)b) < 1478127476 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost all real numbers are transcendental, right? < 1478127499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1478127511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only countably many algebraic numbers. < 1478127620 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any commonly used proper subsets of the transcendental numbers such that almost all real numbers are in that subset? < 1478127663 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :R\Q? < 1478127688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a superset. < 1478127690 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, that's a superset of the transcendental numbers, unless I am horribly confused < 1478127699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, I believe so < 1478127700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, uncomputable numbers? < 1478127707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Almost none are... cedental? < 1478127712 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1478127719 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], algebraic is the word I think < 1478127724 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, ooh, that's a good one < 1478127724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Ah, thank you < 1478127756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do dictionaries in languages like French where words have several forms tend to work? Do they sort the words and provide all 4 forms? < 1478127787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then do they sort it by masculine or feminine form? Or do they include both, thus making the dictionary have up to twice as many entries) < 1478127883 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478127928 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478127931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Are you looking for the "smallest" commonly-used set whose complement is countable? < 1478127959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cocountable, that's the word. < 1478127980 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I guess? < 1478128014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"undefinable" is a subset of uncomputable, I guess. < 1478128038 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, can you give an example of an undefinable number? < 1478128044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that language I reviewed recently which had a program that halted if and only if it didn't halt? < 1478128052 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a computational class above uncomputable < 1478128056 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478128059 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could call it paradoxical < 1478128076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like, it's above the entire uncomputable hierarchy) < 1478128118 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can make a correspondence between uncomputable languages and infinities; you can't predict what an uncomputable language will do even with unlimited time, and infinites are larger than any finite number < 1478128135 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just like some infinities are "larger" than others, some uncomputable languages can analyse others < 1478128149 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, ais523 < 1478128152 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, a program that halts if and only if it doesn't halt feels perversely related to a quine < 1478128153 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "larger" than any infinity would be a number that's greater than itself (as opposed to merely being larger than /other/ numbers) < 1478128157 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ayacc < 1478128165 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you use the same techniques to make them as you do to make quines < 1478128173 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc < 1478128180 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ that's the current location for ayacc, right? it's not apparently mentioned on the websiute < 1478128190 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes, I need to move it at some point < 1478128206 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could create a short page on the website that tells this stuff < 1478128208 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as that page should logically be a web page describing ayacc, rather than a repository < 1478128245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1478128247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1478128265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Please define "smallest", "commonly-used", what the complement is relative to, "looking", and how a set can be a "who" :P < 1478128269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s#loc#the long line, &# < 1478128273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, the long line, locales, and histograms. < 1478128279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(god the inanimate whose bugs me... it just sounds wrong...) < 1478128297 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], I anthropomorphise that which none else can < 1478128313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: coconutable? < 1478128355 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...also do the cocountable sets form a topology like the cofinite sets do? < 1478128497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocountable_topology hth < 1478128512 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], by smallest I mean a minimal element in the poset (or is this a proper poclass?) of cocountable sets < 1478128528 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], the complement is relative to the real numbers < 1478128557 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "I am looking for X" I mean "I am curious about how X is defined" < 1478128572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the long line is pretty good, thanks for inventing it < 1478128577 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "commonly used" I probably mean "Has a cool name and a Wikipedia page" < 1478128621 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1478128626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You're just talking about subsets of the reals, right? < 1478128630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just a poset. < 1478128631 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes < 1478128660 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it would be, wouldn't it < 1478128680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PO-class < 1478128698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yugoslavia < 1478128702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yugoslavia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478128939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google largest countable subset of the real < 1478128940 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-set-of-real-numbers-that-can-be-defined-by-a-finite-definition-lets-call-them-the-definable-reals-is-the-largest-possible-countable-subset-of-the-real- < 1478128940 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers < 1478128948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a scow url tdnh < 1478129015 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My instinct is "Either that is the reals or it is not the largest possible countable subset of the reals" < 1478129044 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly not the reals. < 1478129049 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then < 1478129057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not the largest countable subset of the reals either. < 1478129075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example you can add any countable number of reals to it. < 1478129097 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... that's a simpler proof than mine < 1478129129 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the way I would have done it gets you a field < 1478129135 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe the definable numbers form a field?) < 1478129181 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just tanebvent something < 1478129186 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478129190 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1478129212 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have I haven't named it < 1478129228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, only a countable number of tanebventions are nameable. < 1478129375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1478129417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Taneb invent Count von Count < 1478129429 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can count on it < 1478129444 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, assuming finitary tanebvention names of course < 1478129465 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmwayjzhjtohsbya JOIN :#esoteric < 1478129484 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1478129490 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478129516 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478129540 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1478129766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. Taneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels. < 1478129770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478129775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1478129775 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 12h 39m 32s ago: hellørjan. only slightly. as the proverb says, "trust me, I'm an engineer". < 1478129777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1478129782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. Taneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels. < 1478129787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'dragon': Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. Taneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels. < 1478129978 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, did you know dragons work in base -1 plus or minus i < 1478129992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope! < 1478130132 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you plot the numbers representable in a fixed number of bits in base -1 plus or minus i on an Argand diagram, you get the twin dragon fractal) < 1478130219 0 :GeekDude!~G33kDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1478130275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The complex plane is sometimes called the Argand plane because it is used in Argand diagrams." and then no explanation of what they are, despite the term redirecting there. < 1478130315 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1478130338 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Argand diagram is just a 2D plot of complex numbers where the real component is the x axis and the imaginary component the y axis < 1478130348 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1478130367 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can view it as a linear transformation from C as an R-vector space to R^2 < 1478130371 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages_loud < 1478130371 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 12h 36m 31s ago: moonhellort08. < 1478130371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think i'd have understood you easier if you had just said "complex plane" then. < 1478130384 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1478130397 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, sorry < 1478130431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: boily is a bit annoyed at your changing nick, so he @telloed all of them hth < 1478130476 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olol < 1478130515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes @tell rather useless when you don't know what nick to use... < 1478130520 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478130788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Cro wouldn't happen to be the German equivalent of Justin Bieber or something, would he? < 1478130866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Boeing makes very complex planes < 1478131013 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's cute how you assume i have the slightest idea about pop culture < 1478131035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Excellent, just as planned. < 1478131060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, is this limited to 'murican pop culture- you could answer given context- or is it any pop culture at all?) < 1478131074 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second part