< 1478217689 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: dun dun dun ♪ < 1478217698 0 :enoua5!4941accc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.65.172.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any thoughts? < 1478217799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1478217804 0 :enoua5!4941accc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.65.172.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap, realized i typo'd something < 1478217840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :typpos are unaceptable hear < 1478217884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Baby Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50109&oldid=50108 5* 03Enoua5 5* (+0) 10 < 1478217886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the typö is artistic enough, it's okay. < 1478217938 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you violate pep8! that is unacceptable! < 1478217946 0 :enoua5!4941accc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.65.172.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I fixed it now. It broke a checker for seeing if recursion had gone too far. < 1478218085 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily ready for vacation < 1478218213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enoua5: What happens when the checker recurses too far? < 1478218241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've added umlaut to my keyboard as alt+colon (alt+shift+semicolon). Victory is mine! < 1478218248 0 :enoua5!4941accc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.65.172.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program crashes < 1478218272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could instead put it in 'u' for 'umlaut', because that's currently bound to üÜ, which will become unnecessary...) < 1478218345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you write a normal u twh < 1478218414 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478218452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't change the default layout, the bindings are accessed via right alt (altgr) < 1478218466 0 :enoua5!4941accc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.65.172.204 PART #esoteric : < 1478218657 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use dead ¨ followed by u < 1478218657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I WONDER where I should put the grave? < 1478218672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don't have a dead key to put it in < 1478218681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: So I put the combining diacritic in alt+u < 1478218690 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what OS do you use? < 1478218700 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Windows :/ < 1478218708 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind then < 1478218751 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've resurrected all of ¨ ^ ~ ´ ` that are normally dead on the Finnish layout, because if you happen to want to combine them, there's always the compose key. < 1478218766 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :¨ is probably the least useful as a non-dead key though. < 1478218775 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that's why I haven't changed that < 1478218792 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made ~ nondead and have nondead ^ as altgr+shift+¨ < 1478218814 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you type a ñ then? < 1478218814 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nondead ` as altgr+' < 1478218820 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :compose key for ñ < 1478218824 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1478218830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: grave _has_ to be a dead key, obviously. < 1478218837 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, there seems to be a ˇ in my altgr-'. < 1478218844 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my solution is a bit adhoc based on which keys I actually use as nondead, and where I might place them < 1478218854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why?? < 1478218883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, actually, yeah, I can make a key dead < 1478218895 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you might've missed oerjan's joke < 1478218976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you should czech that out. < 1478218978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1478218983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fizzie: < 1478219005 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :your pun game is on point tonight < 1478219012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chases muphry around with the saucepan again ===\__/ < 1478219027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I don't think I have enough places to put dead keys < 1478219067 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put them under altgr+specials or altgr+shift+specials < 1478219072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Maybe I could lose my ` and ~ keys (kind of) in favor of having key combinations meaning various diacritics and letters ) < 1478219073 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit annoying to type though < 1478219105 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *THWACKS* oerjan. 0.50 FP. < 1478219130 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jlzspxwljgyyqtmr JOIN :#esoteric < 1478219157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Is it possible to use a key twice in a dead key? < 1478219164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*key combo < 1478219175 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1478219175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, could I have `uu be ü? < 1478219182 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1478219184 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1478219188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, didn't think so < 1478219189 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I don't think so < 1478219197 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be weird either way < 1478219200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Wait, I could probably just bind `u to u umlaut < 1478219213 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1478219222 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if you want to type ù < 1478219236 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it make more sense for `u to yield ù rather than ü < 1478219302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I'm pretty sure I can have multiple keys in a combo, so ` will be the general-purpose diacritical key < 1478219315 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1478219333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ` is the given letter with the given diacritic < 1478219335 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: < 1478219375 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ù is AltCar-DeadCircumflex, then u. < 1478219437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, damn < 1478219554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can't require multiple characters in one deadkey combo < 1478219671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1478219789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(God, I wish I could just chord it...) < 1478219806 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ? < 1478219847 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you can do stuff like ế with multiple deadkeys and/or precomposed characters. < 1478219861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yeah, I think so... < 1478221817 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478221858 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. could you please refungot the chännel? < 1478222190 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1478222200 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to ask < 1478222215 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanted to do any more gaming in future < 1478222217 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1478222308 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, but December at the soonest... < 1478222469 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of curiosity, what kind of gaming? < 1478223378 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:7de6:76e5:6fc5:93b7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478223409 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:7de6:76e5:6fc5:93b7 QUIT :Client Quit < 1478223868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :games with bordering lands hth < 1478224236 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1478224244 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is done. < 1478224448 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thizzie! < 1478224451 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: allô toi! < 1478224452 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can simply read the file. after some fnord around with it... but it shouldn't be especially hard to do < 1478224461 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds fnords around fungot < 1478224462 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: one for each byte does the same. a tag check involves one more indirection ( a bit more < 1478224480 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: one fnord for each byte, and in the markov chain bind them. < 1478224480 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh yeah finnish :) < 1478224508 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey. < 1478224509 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hyväskyn. < 1478224509 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well in that case, in general, changes to the system < 1478224524 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SOCK fingerprint *does* have a thing to set SO_KEEPALIVE. < 1478224551 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if I set that on, it'll stop fungot from getting indefinitely stuck on the recv call if freenode dies, after which I could look into making it automatically restart. < 1478224551 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there is something about it today evening ( i must leave now, have we reached the " did too! did not! < 1478224567 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :...except I don't have a facility to auto-join channels, or auto-identify to NickServ yet. < 1478224574 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't leave. < 1478224575 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: either the way, uses fnord to display. bt connection to a machine that worked for six days. headache, stomach ache, ovary ache, muscle aches everywhere, awful nausea etc. sigh. < 1478224592 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. if your ovaries ache, then rest! < 1478224593 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: condition-restarters, modify-condition-restarters, default-handle-condition... aren't the names a bit inconsistent? it is fnord something workable. < 1478224598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot has ovaries? < 1478224598 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ummmm....... huh....really? ummm......what were we talking about again? mmmm.....really? is that possible < 1478224608 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't know how it works. < 1478224811 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ANYTHING CHICKEN < 1478224957 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1478224957 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1478225993 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fisher < 1478225993 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations) < 1478225995 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So what's new? < 1478225995 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and um but the area we live in um new jersey and i'm going to < 1478226008 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Going to what? < 1478226009 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: out oh yeah my son)) < 1478226032 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're not my dad. < 1478226032 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i dunno in countries like um they have um < 1478226083 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this style has had some preprocessing issues, it seems prone to abrupt stops. < 1478227384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also prone to um < 1478228025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb consistency < 1478228033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A consistency that is weaker than all other consistencies. Taneb invented it < 1478228065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd taneb consistency//s/./Taneb consistency is a/ < 1478228070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb consistency//Taneb consistency is a consistency that is weaker than all other consistencies. Taneb invented it < 1478228086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd taneb consistency//s/$/./ < 1478228090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb consistency//Taneb consistency is a consistency that is weaker than all other consistencies. Taneb invented it. < 1478228525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478228852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think "forgetful functor" means "functor". <-- i think it should be a right adjoint of something hth < 1478229833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`airport teborg < 1478229838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478229880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`airport troms < 1478229883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478229912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`iata TOS < 1478229915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Langnes (TOS, ENTC) < 1478229934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1478229941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`airport trondheim < 1478229944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478229952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icao ENVA < 1478229955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaernes (TRD, ENVA) < 1478229968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. no strange letters allowed. < 1478230000 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's Værnes? < 1478230084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1478230091 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but cofree functors are right adjoint to forgetful functors hth < 1478230121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1478230270 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suffer from the no-strange-letters each time I get flight tickets < 1478230278 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :though more due to surname than airport name < 1478233249 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`iata GRR < 1478233252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gerald R Ford Intl (GRR, KGRR) < 1478233266 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so international! < 1478233405 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that the letters "GRR" do not come from "Gerald R. Ford". < 1478233446 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Los Ángeles I11l Airport < 1478233685 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478233850 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478234019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is cofreedom what they have in China? < 1478234565 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478234700 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1478235865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, bound onto an alternate e is now a dead key for æ, Æ, œ, and Œ < 1478235871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lack of øe is unfortunate < 1478235952 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have æÆ under a and øØ under o < 1478235957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"co" does not mean "opposite" < 1478236120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn't say it does < 1478236123 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ol story bro < 1478236129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I do too, with altgr < 1478236137 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never said anyone said it does < 1478236149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...dammit. You win. < 1478236151 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: right, that's what I meant too < 1478236171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I just type æs and øs for every a and o" < 1478236192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :øüch < 1478236340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Øøk would be a good esonlamg... (not a tbs or bfd at all, preferably) < 1478236848 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:5521:8ea8:b576:c205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478240342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Make peace with your 'got" < 1478240810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KKKK < 1478240811 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1478240819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume nobody wanted that one :P < 1478240824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar FUCK < 1478240825 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1478243013 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1478243087 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478243544 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:5521:8ea8:b576:c205 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478244539 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1478245629 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://maps.me/ offline maps on your smartphone for all the people with a smartphone and no internet access < 1478245810 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478245955 0 :izalove!?@? NICK :izalove2 < 1478246679 0 :izalove2!?@? NICK :izalove < 1478247188 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1478247223 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478247862 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1478247996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478248105 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, osmand works fine, too < 1478248162 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Maps is enough for me. < 1478248338 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google maps does not work without internet < 1478248373 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not entirely. But it lets you download rather large chunks of the world as offline areas. < 1478248411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has been assimilated and no longer understand the phrase "without internet" hth < 1478248434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That as well. < 1478248457 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you download chunks... in a cache that is easily cleared < 1478248485 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Offline areas aren't "easily cleared", IMO. < 1478248496 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean you'd use the regular cache, I mean the explicit offline areas. < 1478248515 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you get a list of, and which stay around for a month and auto-refresh themselves getting close to expiring. < 1478248533 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you have no internet connection for a month < 1478248541 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6291838?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en <- those things. < 1478248552 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then you're out of luck hth < 1478248638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please make a connection between L1, L2, L3 norm and L1, L2, L3 cache twh < 1478248648 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm pretty happy that they made getting directions work offline as well. < 1478248664 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But now I need to gets to a doctor, so bye.) < 1478248694 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is L1 cache faster because it uses the taxicab metric < 1478249045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1478249623 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: modern caches actually use the L∞ metric (they can go eight ways) < 1478250144 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hehe < 1478250158 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a real funny one < 1478250175 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1478250180 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's a funny one < 1478250185 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to addquote that < 1478250242 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote please make a connection between L1, L2, L3 norm and L1, L2, L3 cache twh shachaf: modern caches actually use the L∞ metric (they can go eight ways) < 1478250247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1296) please make a connection between L1, L2, L3 norm and L1, L2, L3 cache twh shachaf: modern caches actually use the L∞ metric (they can go eight ways) < 1478250274 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, what's the quote format for separating multiple messages in a quote? < 1478250299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quotefmt < 1478250300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotefmt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478250306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoteformat < 1478250308 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoteformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two. < 1478250315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! I got it right < 1478250332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nowadays we would space-separate a wisdom entry like that < 1478250348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dark ages of wisdom < 1478250361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag quotes < 1478250367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9620:2016-11-04 addquote please make a connection between L1, L2, L3 norm and L1, L2, L3 cache twh shachaf: modern caches actually use the L\xe2\x88\x9e metric (they can go eight ways) \ 9442:2016-10-26 addquote I once forgot what bin men were called Doing roughly 50% of a computer science < 1478250430 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how the frequency of quote modifications has waned. < 1478250438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is probably going to make a fancy graph or something. < 1478250752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1478250754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :172) My quotes are boring < 1478250758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1478250759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :965) If you cannot type, then you should learn to type if you want to operate your computer < 1478251772 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1478254463 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've been spoiled by tools starting with D, and doing fancy graphs "by hand" feels so crude now. < 1478254467 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even set up a InfluxDB + Grafana thing at home to pretend. < 1478254502 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, have a table instead: http://sprunge.us/OFjg < 1478254519 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a vertical bar chart in logscale, if you look at it the right way. < 1478255700 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478256136 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478256157 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fdrkzjhnbrihzyoc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478256176 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net TOPIC #esoteric :News: esolang contest at http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | For extensive pizza testing, use #esoteric-blah < 1478256216 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478256243 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478256361 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oiwisterqzmqgmyt JOIN :#esoteric < 1478256551 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478256627 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tannelle. how's the exam season? < 1478256659 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1478258179 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1478258214 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478258628 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SULFURIC CHICKEN < 1478260540 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7kpr8rqc5v35d.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1478260564 0 :benderB787!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:de2:3b96:ec9c:8416 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478260716 0 :navet!~harvey@APuteaux-551-1-121-30.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1478261695 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478262829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50110&oldid=50012 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+312) 10update < 1478262971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Baby Language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50111&oldid=50109 5* 03Enoua5 5* (+2) 10 < 1478263030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bug Computer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50112&oldid=49934 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+14) 10minor corrections and clarification of the cat example < 1478263152 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1478263717 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478263822 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:de2:3b96:ec9c:8416 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478264064 0 :benderB787!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:de2:3b96:ec9c:8416 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478266442 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a scale from klingon to emoji, how readable is this way to represent a tree? < 1478266445 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : /---------------E---------------\ < 1478266447 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : /-------C-------\ /-------D-------\ < 1478266449 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : /---y---\ /---z---\ /---A---\ /---B---\ < 1478266451 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p < 1478266467 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i forgot a line < 1478266473 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it started with / < 1478266477 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was /-q-\ /-r-\ /-s-\ /-t-\ /-u-\ /-v-\ /-w-\ /-x-\ < 1478266478 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1478266481 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :never again. < 1478266498 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1478266507 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I thought that was pretty readable < 1478266526 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz use that scale < 1478266555 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :klingon < 1478266566 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: I've never read klingon before) < 1478266569 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the scale would work better with \_q_/ instead of /-q-\. < 1478266599 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note also: I strongly dislike emoji) < 1478266602 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obligatory opportunistic pun) < 1478266624 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oop < 1478266633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478266651 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p < 1478266653 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\_q_/ \_r_/ \_s_/ \_t_/ \_u_/ \_v_/ \_w_/ \_x_/ < 1478266656 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : \___y___/ \___z___/ \___A___/ \___B___/ < 1478266660 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : \_______C_______/ \_______D_______/ < 1478266663 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : \_______________E_______________/ < 1478266772 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i like that one < 1478266789 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : _..--==O==--.._ < 1478266789 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : . ^ . . ^ . < 1478266789 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\__a__/ \__b__/ < 1478266796 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1478266804 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :curves < 1478266812 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :scale. < 1478267469 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands izalove some ┌── ──┐ < 1478267477 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo < 1478267486 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :get that utf8 off me < 1478267497 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1478267525 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even use alias tree='tree --charset fail' < 1478267531 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I would use .-- --. over /-- --\ < 1478267536 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1478267552 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm you really dislike Unicode eh < 1478267560 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, box-drawing chars at least < 1478267571 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone ever use anything that isn't utf8 < 1478267585 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can understand keeping to keyboard characters, but still encode it in utf8 you troglodyte < 1478268048 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: wait, I can answer that one < 1478268237 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: I'm young enough to not have had used all the strange iso-646-* and other mangled charsets that put accented letters to @[\]`{|}. Instead, when I started working with computers, accented letters were properly at high bytes. < 1478268313 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478268331 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp437 was universal, because for a while it was burnt into the video card rom of every PC, although at that time most PCs had a VGA card where you could change the font, we just stuck to the cp437 which didn't require changing fonts, and the CWI charset had an unambiguous encoding for all the letters, and was optimized to make it look as good as possible on cp437 if you don't change the font. < 1478268349 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So since all the documents were in CWI, even when we did change the font, we just used CWI. < 1478268379 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, fair enough < 1478268411 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then DOS 6.20 or 6.22 came along, and came with a built-in MODE command that loaded a font and changed what characters were allowed in filenames (seriously, if you didn't MODE to the right codepage, you couldn't even open the existing files that had accented letters in it). < 1478268452 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm there are no horizontal counterparts for ⎧⎨⎩ < 1478268454 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that supported only the 852 (and 850 for western europe) charsets, which differed from CWI in the placement of some characters, < 1478268481 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was actually worse because some of the letters trampled on useful corner box drawing characters, so the boxes in Norton Commander looked ugly if you used it, < 1478268499 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, it was what DOS supported, so it became the standard, and we wrote all the text in the 852 character set. < 1478268549 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then windows 3 came along, with its fancy windows bitmap fonts and true type fonts, and those fonts were encoded in the cp1250 charset (and cp1252 for western europe and cp1251 for cyrillic). < 1478268587 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously everyone wanted to see accented characters in texts in windows and winword and excel, so even when they wrote plain text, they wrote everything in cp1252. < 1478268610 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could no longer show cp1252 on text console, but still, everyone wanted to use windows and winword, so they just stuck to cp1252. < 1478268615 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cp1250 < 1478268618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1478268628 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hated CP 850, I used CP 437. < 1478268663 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I forgot why... did some line drawing characters get reused for letters in CP850?) < 1478268675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then unix came along, and for some historical reasons, the unix people preferred iso-8859-2 over cp1250, and the two were sort of similar, but not quite the same. All the Hungarian letters were at the same place, but the Polish letters got moved, < 1478268686 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the smart quotes and long dash and ellipsis disappeared. < 1478268710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still, the unix people liked it and unix machines came with fonts for it and stuff, so we used iso-8859-2. < 1478268715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, that's what I said above < 1478268738 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: my favourite is ASCII symbols being designed for overstriking, like a` → à, c, → ç, a^ → â etc < 1478268750 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the less intuitive ones, like comma as cedilla < 1478268755 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, after a while, utf-8 came along, and people said I should encode stuff in utf-8, but at that time I got tired of all the changes, so I just stuck to iso-8859-2 (including in terminals) for quite a while. < 1478268772 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did eventually adopt utf-8 for most of the stuff, but quite late. < 1478268804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: so that's the long story of why everyone doesn't use utf-8, even though is obviously the best encoding and the only one you should use, just like all the previous ones were. < 1478268880 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1478268889 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough i guess. < 1478268902 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and inefficient for man CJK characters < 1478268918 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*many < 1478268994 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once, I've even read a very old book that taught programming BASIC on some particular then popular pre-IBM-PC PC, the internationalized variant of it, which used some strange modified commodore-like charset, so in the book, instead of PRINT#, the command for printing to a file handle was shown as PRINTÉ. < 1478269035 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not even the ISO-646-* encoding, mind you, that's not surprising in a commodore64-like machine where the default charset doesn't have lowercase characters. < 1478269052 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISO-646-HU doesn't replace #, it replaces @[\]. < 1478269089 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually seen that particular PC in real life though; the Commodore 64 I used a bit (for games, not yet programming) wasn't a nationalized one. < 1478269107 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: true, and I suppose why SJIS is still popular < 1478269350 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478269351 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478269392 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Client Quit < 1478269393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I do still have non-utf8 files along. If you check my homepage, you'll find that in half the pages, the HTML is iso-8859-2 encoded, though of course the browser handles that transparently. < 1478269401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just never changed them, because why bother? < 1478270091 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1478270182 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478272694 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478273459 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478273528 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478273772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: tdh < 1478273795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Though it doesn't show days with 0 edits, which would probably make recent quotes edits look even more sparse. < 1478274434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Months. < 1478274441 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes. < 1478274465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: most fancy tools that read from disk start with D hth < 1478274500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, never mind, it's months. < 1478274524 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking it'd be noisy if it were days. < 1478274596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1478274628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use base 1 instead of base 10 for the numbers. < 1478274640 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure PostgreSQL has a function for that. < 1478274695 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wasn't thinking -- of course there is, it's called lpad. < 1478274717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat(string text, number int) < 1478274730 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's even more obviouser. < 1478274848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the troubles with histograms is that you have to pick boundaries. < 1478274887 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just use Gaussian mixture models instead. < 1478274893 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have to pick the number of components. < 1478274964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a presentation about a continuous variant of histograms and various other visualization things once. < 1478274979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was based on http://adereth.github.io/oneoff/Mode%20Trees.pdf < 1478275421 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1478275629 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Pull the pin and count to what? < 1478275784 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the plQad is being proposed for unicode inclusion again < 1478275798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.meson.org/downloads/pIqaDReturns.pdf < 1478276088 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1478276152 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478276178 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there ever a legitimate reason to send an email with no To: address (not even "undisclosed-recipients")? < 1478276193 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a decent proportion of the spam I get has no To: and I'm considering just blocking it < 1478276705 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478276766 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know HOW < 1478276784 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you een do that < 1478276828 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478276910 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most email clients won't let you do it < 1478276915 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can hand-deliver an email with no To: line < 1478276925 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually an email doesn't actually need any headers at all < 1478276933 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1478276947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the chance of passing a spam check under those circumstances is low < 1478276986 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1478277510 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1478277573 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478277644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Rather than modifications it should count the number of quotes added, I guess. < 1478277650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably negative in some months. < 1478277698 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it counts just the number of `addquote commands, not really all modifications. < 1478277878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I may be missing something, but RFCs 5321 and 5322 do not seem to mandate a To: header in the message body... < 1478277940 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do they mandate any headers? < 1478277956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're using IRC logs. < 1478277987 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably Received: is always going to be there but that one isn't added by the sender < 1478278541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478278578 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478278797 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1478278840 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478278894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that tracing information is mandated... that's the only thing I see < 1478278902 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALP! in git, how do I reset a file delete that's already in the index? shouldn't git reset --filename work < 1478278903 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1478278962 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is the file in the working directory? or is it deleted from both the working directory and index? < 1478279001 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'd try git checkout HEAD file < 1478279098 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you'd need a hard reset for that < 1478279104 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hmm, the reset... needs a --hard, perhaps? < 1478279111 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1478279115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not in the working directory either. it's only in the HEAD. < 1478279132 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:442:ffec:7a75:adab JOIN :#esoteric < 1478279133 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: git reset --hard would be bad, since there are other modified files < 1478279141 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you need to reset the file to get it back into the index, then checkout the file to get it into the working tree < 1478279141 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want this selectively on just two files < 1478279179 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use git reset -p and git checkout -p to get a darcs-like interface, that's easier to use than git's < 1478279186 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After running git reset to update the index entry, you can use git-checkout(1) to check the contents out of the index to the working tree." < 1478279193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, but why did reset fail? I tried to help my coworker with git, and he tried a git reset (and insists he copied the filename wrong), and reset says it doesn't know of that path < 1478279195 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, let me try this locally to check if reset indeed works < 1478279209 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the filename WAS wrong despite what my coworker said < 1478279222 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also make sure you're in the root of the repo < 1478279232 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a reset should put the file back to the index < 1478279232 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I did make that sure < 1478279234 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it can be a bit confusing as to whether the filename's relative to the repo route or the current directory < 1478279240 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: git reset doesn't touch the working directory. (but you're right, --hard doesn't seem to apply to the git reset -- paths variant) < 1478279259 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try a simple testcase in my local machine < 1478279259 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I know, I can git checkout after < 1478279265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem was that the reset failed < 1478279335 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2125710/how-to-revert-a-git-rm-r lists all the options discussed above :P and a few stupid ones. < 1478279345 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jlzspxwljgyyqtmr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1478279363 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :git reset does work < 1478279374 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case my working hypothesis is that he just copied the filename wrong < 1478279393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry then < 1478279447 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.f15ijp.com/2012/06/git-undo-git-rm-on-one-file/ suggests the git checkout HEAD ... variant. but maybe that's enough redundant googling for me. < 1478279768 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478280535 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1478280608 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478280612 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478280650 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478282455 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.64.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478282757 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.64.98 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478282818 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.64.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478283355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478284116 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1478284133 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1478284462 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1478284491 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.64.98 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478284530 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.64.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478284700 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478284849 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(){ :|:& };: < 1478284900 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(){ :|:|echo lol& };: < 1478284912 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup jeff < 1478285036 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1478285326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478285540 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` :(){ :|:&ps };: < 1478285541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1478285553 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` :(){ :|:&; ps; };: < 1478285554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `;' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `:(){ :|:&; ps; };:' < 1478285563 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1478285569 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` :(){ ps; :|:& };: < 1478285570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1478285704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Narcissus 5* 10New user account < 1478285768 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.64.98 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478286138 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478286618 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wefrnmsmipvxmfcp JOIN :#esoteric < 1478286800 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478287188 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478287222 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478287308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478287553 0 :jeffl35!?@? NICK :iczero < 1478287706 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the recent earthquakes in italy are god's punishment for civil unions < 1478288270 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478288298 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478288390 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove, that makes no sense < 1478288453 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was said by someon on a famous italian christian radio station < 1478288476 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atheist bias: dude that makes no sense < 1478288703 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478290112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478290558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478291154 0 :iczero!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 QUIT :Changing host < 1478291154 0 :iczero!jeffl@unaffiliated/iczero JOIN :#esoteric < 1478291224 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478291372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478291669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is æ an evil name for a variable? < 1478291696 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1478291715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps it should be assumed æ := a*e (e as in ln)?) < 1478291732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe æ = e**a, as that's a far more common operation...) < 1478291755 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just shouldn't use nonascii characters in variable names if you ever want other people to even read your code < 1478292139 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478292182 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478292208 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xdrfyjcupvdegtcv QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478292248 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478292282 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1478292513 0 :LKoen_!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a12f:187e:d1d6:258f JOIN :#esoteric < 1478292513 0 :shikhin_!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1478292513 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't anybody tell Iverson that < 1478292515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø (with some element ø) would be a good name for a nonempty set... < 1478292515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye FireFly < 1478292515 0 :^v^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1478292515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :BuyerFly < 1478292515 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaving? :o < 1478292515 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1478292515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :BuyerFly and SellerFly / Agreed to have a battle; / For SellerFly said BuyerFly / Had spoiled his nice new rattle. < 1478292515 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the trees are leaving this time of the year < 1478292516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're called leaves because they leave the trees in the fall. Which is why it's called fall. < 1478292516 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1478292516 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1478292516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a quote from a book I haven't read. < 1478292519 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/session QUIT :Changing host < 1478292519 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ptpakszuedopillr JOIN :#esoteric < 1478292567 0 :shikhin_!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1478292606 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1478293141 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478293901 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:de2:3b96:ec9c:8416 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478293930 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:de2:3b96:ec9c:8416 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478293934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Baby Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50113&oldid=50111 5* 03Enoua5 5* (+0) 10 < 1478293964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478294132 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478294171 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478294206 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478294356 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1478295232 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478295612 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478295645 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat, Baby Language got interpreted < 1478295645 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1478295656 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah that guy < 1478295732 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didnt really specify it enough to be interpretable < 1478295739 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is anyway < 1478295882 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi everyone! I've got an unknown function, working like this (C/C++): void func(int a[6]) { for (int i=0; i<6; i++) a[i]=a[i]/6; }; what it is for, some kind of normalization, or?.. < 1478295886 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would anyone divide each element of vector by vector size? < 1478295916 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :"func(int a[6])" < 1478295916 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's enough information to tell < 1478295924 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be a conincidence that the two 6s are the same < 1478295934 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlikely... < 1478295936 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: that's valid syntax, the 6 is just a suggestion though < 1478295945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't actually do anything, and you can pass an array of a different size < 1478295947 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1478295959 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: yes, kind of self-documentation < 1478295967 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1478295970 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C99 introduced the syntax void func(int a[static 6]) < 1478295982 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which asserts that the array is exactly six elements long (or possibly at least six elements long) < 1478295998 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the compiler's allowed to miscompile the program if it's shorter < 1478296001 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ..bizarre, but kinda cool < 1478296012 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :a form of dependent typing i guess < 1478296016 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's to allow optimizations which wouldn't otherwise be possible, like reading ahead in the array < 1478296686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478296933 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. There's an example or two in the C99 rationale document. < 1478296948 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somewhat similar to restrict. < 1478297032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478297035 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, the example is a void fadd(double a[static restrict 10], double b[static restrict 10]) { ... } where the compiler is allowed to freely reorder the loads and stores of the elements of a and b. < 1478297078 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:442:ffec:7a75:adab QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478297118 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-180-181-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478297164 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can see why restrict would do that, but why is static needed? < 1478297178 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found there is another special case I did not yet consider in my GURPS character point total calculation program, for Delusions, now I will add that one. < 1478297184 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, it's because of the part I omitted. < 1478297194 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The actual function stops at the first nonnegative element. < 1478297380 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-180-181-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478298887 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: < 1478298908 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just ping yourself? < 1478298913 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried to < 1478298918 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls help < 1478299019 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you ping me < 1478299030 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: ping < 1478299037 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1478299049 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask the bots if you need pings < 1478299058 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!xao: ping! < 1478299058 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xao: ping! < 1478299070 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool! < 1478299073 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, you're actually xa0 < 1478299073 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but close enough < 1478299078 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, yeah < 1478299085 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ping yourself in a wide range of esolangs :-D < 1478299099 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's extended brainfuck, right < 1478299133 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a brainfuck cat program < 1478299135 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then after the ! comes the input to it < 1478299151 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1478299156 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough! < 1478299208 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf_txtgen xa0: ping! < 1478299216 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :105 ++++++++++++[>++++++++++>++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>.>+.>>.++++++++++.<----.<<--------.>++++++++.<--.>--.>+. [192] < 1478299228 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++[>++++++++++>++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>.>+.>>.++++++++++.<----.<<--------.>++++++++.<--.>--.>+. < 1478299228 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: ping! < 1478299250 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1478299303 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf_txtgen xa0: < 1478299309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :72 ++++++++++++[>++++++++++>++++++++>++++>+++<<<<-]>.>+.>.++++++++++.>----. [577] < 1478299315 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478299396 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++[>++++++++++>++++++++>++++>+++<<<<-]>.>+.>.++++++++++.>----. < 1478299396 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa0: < 1478299502 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1478299624 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I like Memfractal < 1478299634 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and believe it's TC < 1478299731 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fungot should prefix the babble with the name it's answering to. < 1478299731 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we've been married quite a few < 1478299735 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it does. < 1478299743 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, you can get a ping without having to actually do anything. < 1478299834 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there's always Underload as well, if you want it simple. < 1478299890 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1478300088 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"some recipes call for vegetable stock which i've never made since i've never been able to find vegetable bones" :D < 1478300177 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478300237 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1478300259 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ! between the program and input is a common convention for brainfuck but I prefer the convention that ] is used instead; it has the advantage to be compatible with standard brainfuck. < 1478300785 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1478300799 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1478300799 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1478301044 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7kpr8rqc5v35d.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1478301298 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1478301444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478301633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1478301638 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478301765 0 :Notebook!63f8cea3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.248.206.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478301774 0 :Notebook!63f8cea3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.248.206.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1478301789 0 :Notebook!63f8cea3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.248.206.163 QUIT :Client Quit < 1478302028 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. < 1478302401 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the joke was about software whose name starts with D and also ends with D < 1478302609 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's not in particular something I feel I miss. < 1478302675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about C, or B < 1478302677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i or A < 1478302717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented program for doing GURPS dice by computer; you can do: Success, Damage, Quick Contest, Regular Contest. You can look at the codes to see its working, to learn a few things about it without having to buy the book (although you should look in book if you want more explanation of it) < 1478302927 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wefrnmsmipvxmfcp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1478302998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't say what happen if you hit by less than zero or miss by less than zero, so I assumed that if you hit or miss by less than zero then you hit or miss by zero instead (the only possibility to miss by zero is to roll a natural 17 or 18 on three dice, and such case is usually missing by more than zero anyways) < 1478303445 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My domain name will not be fixed until later tonight < 1478303736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Rational-coefficient complexes (a+bi for b, i in \QQ) in bijective base 2... mmm...) < 1478303839 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving