00:01:07 I have seen a GIMP plugin to use Farbfeld, although that plugin only supports using files (with optional bzip2 compression) and not pipes. (I think it would probably be more useful if it supported loading/saving farbfeld through pipes, although I don't use GIMP and don't know.) 00:01:20 <\oren\> Trump gets KY and indina; clinton gets vermont 00:02:35 zzo38: um, so where do I find the documentation for those individual utilities? 00:04:08 <\oren\> ky s kentuky 00:04:08 and in particular, what would these utilities help me do that I can't do just as easily with ImageMagick? 00:04:46 wob_jonas: Unfortunately there is currently none other than the source code, but there is also the wiki, which does contain a few examples. You are free to edit the wiki too if you want to. 00:05:12 Currently there are a lot of things that these utilities don't do (and ImageMagick does do), although they also support some things ImageMagick doesn't. 00:05:44 What is a useful thing they can do that ImageMagick can't do? 00:05:46 One thing different from ImageMagick is that all of the Farbfeld Utilities act as filters. 00:06:00 wob_jonas: Depends what is useful to you, I suppose. 00:06:17 And if it doesn't do what you want, you are free to make feature requests and/or to contribute. 00:06:25 luckily ImageMagick can also act as a filter 00:06:47 I sometimes pipe something into it or pipe something out from it, though I rarely pipe both ways 00:06:58 it can definitely be used as a filter and chained though 00:07:06 Yes it can (and I do sometimes use it this way, such as to display a picture from the internet), although not as well as farbfeld. 00:07:56 Farbfeld Utilities does support a few file formats that ImageMagick doesn't, although it supports hardly any of the common ones other than PNG, currently. (But I do think they should add Farbfeld file format support to ImageMagick too anyways.) 00:08:55 I think you can add the format to ImageMagick on client side if you have a program that decodes farbfeld to some other format ImageMagick knows and one that encodes it, and edit the ImageMagick config file a bit. 00:09:13 I'm not sure of the details, I never tried to do that. 00:09:36 wob_jonas: I have not tried editing the configuration file, although Farbfeld Utilities can encode/decode PNG. 00:09:52 (I also find that LodePNG sometimes compresses PNG files better than ImageMagick.) 00:09:56 apparently you have ffpbm, that should work 00:10:12 Yes, PBM/PGM/PPM will also work. 00:10:18 I wouldn't encode through png when you want to pass to ImageMagick, that's just a waste of cpu 00:10:41 unless perhaps you encode to an uncompressed png, which exists, but is still more complicated than using ppm 00:10:50 OK then 00:11:17 do you also have a converter from ppm to farbfeld? 00:11:26 <\oren\> karl rove, the guy who broke down in hysterics last time is on fox still 00:11:27 Currently not, sorry. 00:11:43 (I may write one later, or you or someone else can contribute such a file.) 00:12:27 well, I'm still only interested if you can point me to something useful I can do with these utilities that I couldn't do easily otherwise 00:12:42 -!- Akaibu has joined. 00:13:05 hmm... 00:13:54 Look at the examples perhaps. 00:14:49 zzo38: do you have a quantile filter, that is, a filter that takes a small environment around each pixel, and outputs the quantile of the values among that environment in the output image, and preferably does this not in a horribly slow way? 00:15:32 I'd like such a filter, and haven't yet seen a good implementation, except of some easy special cases (minimum, maximum, and any quantile on 1 bit deep pixels) 00:16:10 wob_quantile: Thanks, I do like that suggestion. Post it as a feature request on that repository! (You can login anonymously) 00:16:28 "wob_quantile"? 00:16:32 I may then write it, hopefully before Sunday (possibly even today, but probably not) 00:18:17 though ideally I'd like this as an addition to ImageMagick, and written in such a way that it respects the virtual pixel option (and masks and channel selection and other stuff) of ImageMagick 00:19:05 the case where you take the median is sometimes called "median filter" and iirc "despeckle" in gimp 00:19:07 You can do palette reduction to a user-defined palette of up to 1024 colours, with specified dithering and closest-colour methods, and optionally with Hold-And-Modify. It also supports the file formats for tile graphics for PC, Famicom, and GameBoy. 00:22:10 wob_jonas: I wouldn't know how to make it an addition to ImageMagick, although I hope to add it to Farbfeld Utilities; you should probably post a feature request. 00:23:39 palette reduction to a user-defined palette => I do that with ImageMagick, with the -remap command and the -dither setting 00:24:32 hmm, "specified closest-colour methods" => I'm not sure how I can do that in ImageMagick though 00:24:40 but it's not really what I'm missing 00:25:01 more like, easier ways to create better colormaps in a partly automatic and partly directed way 00:25:17 I want that too, but so far have been unable to think of how to implement that. 00:26:22 -!- moony has joined. 00:27:35 zzo38: for first approximation, I'd like to give a mask on the image, and ask for a 255 color palette such that 128 of the colors are optimized to convert the masked part of the image, and then the other 127 colors are optimized so that together with the first 128 they can convert the whole image the best. 00:28:14 Creating the palette for the masked region is possible, but I'm not sure how to ask any program to create the final palette with some colors fixed. 00:28:50 -!- moonheart08 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 00:28:51 If you have some ideas, perhaps post them as tickets. 00:29:30 wob_jonas: That is a good idea that I have not thought of; to make a palette optimizer that can use some fixed colours (which will be able to do what you want). 00:31:02 (I would make it you can optimize a palette for a different picture than the one you are actually converting, which means that this is possible by giving a cropped picture as input to the palette optimizer. And then, if it supports some fixed colours, give the full picture, with the first output given as some of the fixed colours by using the `...` shell operator.) 00:31:16 I mostly run into this problem because I want to create 256 color PNG files, since the design of the PNG format has the side effect that those compress much better than true color ones. 00:32:08 "I would make it you can optimize a palette for a different picture than the one you are actually converting, which means that this is possible by giving a cropped picture as input to the palette optimizer." => you can already do that part with ImageMagick. Although really, you could use any color reducer and then collect the colors from the output 00:32:09 with ImageMagick too. 00:32:22 Optimizing the palette with some fixed colors is what I don't know how to do. 00:33:10 Yes, and that is a good idea; when I make ff-optimize I hope to add that as an option! 00:33:37 Perhaps post a feature request so that I do not forget! 00:34:13 ok 00:35:04 make sure to represent the palette in some easy to handle format, so I can edit it in other ways 00:35:31 ImageMagick represents the palette as just an image 00:35:58 I intend to just make it output what ff-reduce needs as command-line arguments, which is just hex RGB format; using ff-scanf you can convert that output into a picture if you want that. 00:37:44 zzo38: can I convert from a picture too? 00:38:48 Yes; ff-printf is the opposite operation to ff-scanf. 00:39:31 ok 00:39:32 (Although ff-printf discards the width and height of the picture, so when you send its output to ff-scanf you must specify the width and height.) 00:39:45 For a palette, that's not a big problem. 00:39:48 With ff-printf and ff-scanf you have to specify the format string. 00:42:30 Farbfeld Utilities can also decode NTSC if that is useful to anyone (perhaps it can be used with a CGA monochrome picture to convert it to colours, for example). (It decodes the colours only though; you will still need to use a separate program to decode the frame.) 00:43:08 (In the case of a PC emulator though, the frame is already decoded for you anyways.) 00:45:36 zzo38: there's another image-related utility I'd like, but that one I'll probably try to write myself: 00:46:31 a GUI tool that lets me show two images and select three or four pairs of corresponding points on them, and then create a perspective or affine transformed copy of the second image onto the first image so that the selected points align. 00:47:02 ImageMagick itself can do the perspective or affine transform, but I want to do this often enough that a GUI tool would be better. 00:48:05 And perhaps then I need a second step, one that lets me check the alignment of the transformed image on the first image by composing them in different ways, and correcting it dynamically by moving any of the eight or six control points. 00:48:24 Ideally the GIMP transform tool should work this way, but it doesn't. 00:49:51 For selecting points on the picture, a GUI tool would help, I agree. 00:50:49 Eventually I should write this, using ImageMagick as the backend for the transform. 00:52:41 -!- moony has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 00:53:27 good night 00:53:31 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 01:18:32 clinton 44 trump 51 01:18:34 * izalove freaks out 01:19:06 do you freak out enough to move to canada 01:19:28 well no but maybe germany 01:19:34 okay 01:20:19 68 - 57 says bbc 01:21:10 -!- spiette_ has joined. 01:21:33 i was watching it on google :X 01:21:41 clinton 68 trump 57. 01:21:55 (says Radio-Canada) 01:22:16 -!- spiette_ has changed nick to simonp. 01:22:52 -!- simonp has changed nick to spiette_. 01:25:19 oerjan: "bbc" has always been an awkward acronym imo 01:25:50 i no longer trust you on language judgements hth 01:26:14 oerjan: tdh, and tshyt 01:26:57 boily: What are these numbers? Guaranteed electoral votes or...? 01:27:11 `? tshyt 01:27:19 tshyt? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:27:21 oerjan: that should help you too hth 01:27:38 ("tshy" might be better) 01:27:44 hppavilion[1]: presumably. 68 - 66 now. 01:27:55 oerjan: Ah. That's what 538 is saying too 01:28:07 (Is abbreviating FiveThirtyEight as 538 acceptable?) 01:28:30 well i don't know what it is either with or without abbreviation, so... 01:28:36 hppavellon[1]. they are numbers. 01:28:51 oerjan: http://fivethirtyeight.com/ 01:29:07 oerjan: The standard political forecast site used by nerds (e.g. Randall Munroe) 01:29:47 oerjan: 538 is the total number of votes in the electoral college. hth. 01:31:27 THX 01:31:47 68 66. 01:32:34 oerjan: THX? 01:32:36 Thou Hast Xylophony? 01:32:54 THX, 1138. 01:33:00 boily: That too 01:33:14 (Xylophony: The practice of studying and playing Xylophones. hth) 01:33:40 There was once a crossword puzzle with a clue asking about the next day's newspaper headline, which depended who was going to be elected president. 01:34:05 `thanks THX 01:34:08 Thanks, THX. THX. 01:34:13 zzo38: Yeah, I've heard of that. It works with both choices 01:34:34 Yes 01:34:39 zzo38: And I think some of the different letters even resulted in different (but still-working) words 01:34:49 * oerjan is not sure when he last studied or played a xylophone. 01:35:06 (The cluues that crossed it could support either of two letters in one of their positions and still be valid.) 01:36:14 cluuver. 01:37:27 * hppavilion[1] thvacks oerjan with a German-manufactured svatter 01:37:42 does this mean that just over 1000 people voted? http://i.imgur.com/qwTN3R4.png 01:38:47 hppavilion[1]: you like to live dangerously, thvacking people like that. 01:39:02 izalove: It's probably a district thing 01:39:26 https://www.google.com/search?q=results+of+presidential+elections <- from this 01:39:35 izalove: Like, this many state-electoral votes went to this side, this many state-electoral votes to the other, and there are 1000 state elector votes 01:39:47 If that makes any amount of sense 01:40:21 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 01:40:31 ah i see 01:41:17 izalove: i get redirected to google.no, which usually is not helpful for such things. 01:41:32 try google.yes 01:41:57 (i assume there was some promoted response) 01:42:06 Florida is mostly red, but votes are tighter than shrinkwrapped Superman panties. 01:43:51 It seems very likely Florida will be hitting a mandatory recount. 01:45:24 why exactly is new jersey blue? 01:48:08 it's weird. votes are 38.10% Hillary, 58.58% Trump... 01:50:57 izalove: Oh, that might actually be because not everybody participates in exit polls. If that's what that is. 01:51:11 boily: And...? 01:52:23 unless I completely misunderstand the way American elections work, more red is more Trump? 01:52:49 Does anyone vote independent? 01:54:02 i'm sure someone does. 01:54:57 trump just won MS 01:55:01 make windows great again 01:55:39 i read somewhere there was a chance utah might go to an independent, and if so that would be the first time any state does since 1968. 01:56:42 There is a pretty sizable chance there, yes. 01:56:53 hikhq 01:57:33 . o O ( did he run on a "why vote for the lesser evil" platform? ) 01:58:00 lol is trump winning? 01:58:08 apparently so 01:58:28 bit early to say? 01:58:40 Bowserinator: Possibly, but only because the reporting so far has mostly been in GOP strongholds. 01:58:48 The fact of the matter is, it's way too early to tell. 01:59:08 well we'll get some more votes in about 1 minute 02:02:00 boily: Yes 02:02:07 zzo38: You don't "vote" independent 02:02:22 zzo38: Independent is an alignment towards not-choosing-a-party-ness 02:02:47 A candidate can run as independent, but they're still a political figure- often they're people who lost the primaries 02:03:56 97-122 what the fuck 02:03:59 how is he winning 02:04:08 america what is your problem 02:04:31 Because he's a populist fascist demagogue. 02:04:39 And America has had a strong authoritarian streak of late. 02:07:21 -129 02:08:14 97-81 here. 02:08:22 97-87. 02:08:40 boily: WAY AHEAD OF YOU 02:09:16 HELLØRJAN! THE NUMBERS ARE OFF THE CHARTS! 02:09:27 (tip: the correct numbers won't decrease hth) 02:10:15 97-129 02:11:32 -!- scoofy has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:11:56 97-125. 02:12:21 hppavilion[1]: will you Canada? 02:12:36 boily: Apparently, no 02:12:44 boily: "France, maybe" 02:12:54 England possibly 02:16:06 boily: Sounds like Canada isn't far enough 02:18:09 -!- scoofy has joined. 02:18:57 104-129 02:19:16 97-125. 02:27:55 104-125. 02:28:25 boily: you need faster internet 02:29:50 my internets are synchronized hth 02:30:00 with the PAST 02:30:27 BURN 02:32:20 flblblblblblbl :Þ 02:34:57 What statistical method might I use to approximately figure out the templates used by the simple interface of the RinkWorks Fantasy Name Generator? 02:43:59 -!- augur has joined. 02:47:44 104-137 02:48:10 I am getting increasingly worried the USD will soon be at par with the Zimbabwean dollar. 02:49:05 so, replaced by euros and south african rands? 02:49:16 -!- spiette_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:49:31 Do you have any idea about how such thing I mentioned might be done? 02:49:55 oerjan: Eventually, yes. 02:50:03 Are you any statistician? 02:51:31 ah, state television... "it's like choosing between a gonorrhea and syphillis." 02:51:38 stay classy! 02:55:18 Have they STILL not called Florida‽ 02:57:10 hm apparently zimbabwean economy has gone downhill again after the mugabe's party got alone in goverment again. surprise! 02:57:11 Yes. 02:57:18 *-the 02:57:33 93.78% votes counted in Florida. Trump 49.05%, Hillary 47.83%. 03:00:24 boily: the norwegian standard idiom is "valg mellom pest og kolera" (choice between plague and cholera) hth 03:01:49 time for nightly coma. tomorrow will be tomorrow... 03:01:49 apparently german is similar. 03:02:11 we don't really have any idiom for that. 03:02:21 104-140 03:02:31 103-136. 03:02:37 s/3-/4-/ 03:02:43 -!- boily has quit (Quit: SUGGESTIVE CHICKEN). 03:02:53 oerjan: Cholera tyvm 03:03:07 (Wait, which "The plague" is this?) 03:03:15 hppavilion[1]: probably bubonic 03:04:59 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:07:25 -150 03:08:24 oerjan: The bourbonic plague is much better. hth. 03:09:13 that's just whiskeyful thinking 03:11:08 109- 03:19:09 My namegen.js now has a builtin repeat function, which is much faster than using an external repeater. 03:19:11 -!- spiette_ has joined. 03:19:51 -!- spiette_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:28:02 -168 03:29:49 trump wins ohio (first swing state) 03:38:16 oerjan: Oh, did he? 03:39:17 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 03:45:20 131- 03:45:31 oerjan: What are these numbers? 03:45:50 electors so far, i assume 03:46:24 oerjan: ...you assume? 03:46:54 well, am pretty sure. 03:47:05 http://www.bbc.com/news/election/us2016/results 03:52:29 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:53:07 -!- carado has joined. 04:15:04 Oregon clinton. 04:16:24 190 to 187, clinton's favour. 161 not called; all remaining large states are moderate-leaning-trump 04:17:12 and that 538 site thinks trump has 58% prob. of winning. 04:17:50 Most likely path to clinton victory from here is Washington (easy), Maine and Maine First (not too difficult), Minnesota (risky, but possible), Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Michigan, which all lean red for the moment 04:18:25 (florida would replace any two of those last four except maybe Penn. and Mich.) 04:18:27 oerjan: that 58% is not accounting for florida 04:18:36 which several outlets have already called 04:20:59 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 04:34:53 209-222 04:40:42 -228 04:54:00 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 04:54:15 <\oren\> they called florida for trump 04:54:29 who are you watching? you're late to the party 04:54:32 Georgia Trump. 84% 04:54:39 alercah: FiveThirtyEight 04:54:53 alercah: I think it must have been controversial so they waited before calling 04:59:45 hppavilion[1]: even 538 had called it about 10 minutes before \oren\ said that 05:00:04 alercah: It didn't pop up for me. 05:00:16 alercah: I don't know when it did; \oren\ might have actually been late to the party 05:00:35 according to their site they called at 11:30 05:01:29 alercah: I'm in AKST 05:01:54 so... 19:30? 05:02:14 think so 05:02:18 whatever half an hour ago was 05:03:12 -!- centrinia has joined. 05:05:18 <\oren\> fox called wisconsin for turmp but cnn hasnt 05:05:46 -!- centrinia has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:07:12 it's over 05:07:14 tbqh 05:07:17 hth 05:07:42 `? tbqh 05:08:00 tbqh? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:08:03 to be quite honest 05:08:19 oh not officially 05:08:28 it's not officially over until january 05:08:36 OKAY 05:19:36 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:25:09 <\oren\> well basically if trunp gets mchigan or pennyslvania he wins 05:25:21 <\oren\> curently wining in both 05:26:33 alercah: But the only way we'd get that many faithless electors is if Trump declares that he will begin by exterminating the Jews. 05:26:40 Actually, given how things are going, maybe not. 05:26:41 \oren\: even if he doesn't, it's over 05:27:12 11 from AZ, 10 from WI, 4 from NH, 1 from NE is 26 and that's enough 05:27:16 Clinton's not *literally* guaranteed to lose at this point, but it's looking incredibly likely. 05:27:30 She'd need to take WI NH NE AZ. 05:28:08 and PA 05:28:17 which is looking unlikely because a very red county still hasn't reported 05:29:02 MI is more likely than WI 05:29:13 True. 05:33:09 assuming AZ, WI, NE, 1 ME for trump, that's 23. AK would seal it 05:34:20 if AK somehow flips to capstone this nutty election, 3 ME, NH, AK, PA, MI, MN is a clinton win 05:34:27 but that's about the only possible way she has left 05:42:06 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:54:30 -!- ybden has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 05:56:55 -!- ybden has joined. 05:59:23 <\oren\> CNN still isn't admitting anything 06:00:18 <\oren\> alaska sould be in soon 06:03:03 <\oren\> their analyst just explained that he cant see a way for clinton to win PA but they won't call it 06:03:35 \oren\: Fox is calling Wisconsin. FiveThirtyEight is not certain yet, but it looks like trump is president-elect 06:05:44 WHAT THE FUCK 06:05:51 i went to sleep and trump won 06:05:53 christ 06:06:19 izalove: Did you really? 06:06:24 yes 06:06:31 i'll never sleep again 06:06:43 good policy 06:06:54 <\oren\> they aven't called it but yeah 98% chance turnip president 06:07:17 izalove: It's your fault 06:07:47 <\oren\> maine called for clinton 06:07:57 \oren\: Which part? 06:08:06 \oren\: Whole, first district, or second district? 06:08:37 <\oren\> both I think 06:09:41 <\oren\> cnn just called utah for trump 06:10:36 <\oren\> cnn is such trash 06:11:22 <\oren\> once again megyn kelly is having to go and ask the statisticians wut r they doin 06:11:42 <\oren\> I am watching cnn and fox on dual monitors 06:11:49 Sleep is pretty boring anyway 06:11:52 don't really recommend it 06:13:38 \oren\: Whole is different from both first district and second district 06:14:03 <\oren\> wait wat 06:14:09 \oren\: Maine's electoral votes are divided into 3 groups- 1, 1, 2. The voters are in two districts (first and second) 06:14:23 guys this stopped being funny, someone better come out and say it's a prank 06:14:33 \oren\: Whoever wins the first district gets 1, whoever wins the second district gets 1, and whoever wins the state overall gets the other 2 06:14:41 \oren\: Yes, it's fucking ridiculous. 06:16:20 whatever, antinuclear bunkers aren't even that expensive these days 06:16:20 ok so the conference I am supposed to go to tomorrow 06:16:30 I cannot find any registration confirmation emails for and the website is down 06:17:07 <\oren\> izalove: I tought it was clinton who was going to war with russia 06:17:23 trump is going to war with everyone -_- 06:17:28 including the us 06:17:32 <\oren\> except russia 06:19:48 Now officially a Republican senate 06:20:03 The house was never up to be de-republicized AFAICT 06:20:16 Republican Senate, Republican House, Trump in the white house. My god. 06:22:25 welp time to emigrate 06:23:18 Hoolootwo: Emigration is in-country afair 06:24:20 Well, time to go to acceptance 06:24:54 eh? emigration means leaving the country 06:25:01 (I'm somewhat glad Ms. Rawson, mercifully, didn't live to see this...) 06:25:13 anyway, you us folk can consider actually trying to fix your country too 06:25:16 rather than just running away 06:29:09 What are the Greek names and GURPS values for fear of left-handed plumbers and for fear of everything? 06:33:19 the second ought to be panphobia 06:33:54 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 06:34:10 OK 06:34:41 apparently that's only one of several options https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panphobia 06:34:59 well the omni- is latin 06:36:13 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:36:57 New xkcd 06:37:25 zzo38: i suspect pantophobia is the most grammatically correct 06:37:57 ah, giant douche won over turd sandwich, i see 06:38:40 OK, no more election discussion? 06:39:00 i am excited about the new episode of south park 06:39:04 It's been done, it appears. 06:39:12 pantophobia sounds like the fear of pants 06:40:30 <\oren\> Amy Schumer, Cher, various other american celebs: Bienvenue au Canada! 06:42:23 <\oren\> Will Trudeau extend refugee visas to trump fleers? 06:42:29 Hoolootwo: ...is it not? 06:42:49 \oren\: He will, or we will... damn, what will we do? 06:43:01 Fuck, I don't know how to threaten foreign officials. 06:43:03 If meaning fear of everything then that is including pants too isn't it? 06:43:20 zzo38: Isn't fear of everything panphobia? 06:43:40 I would think so. 06:44:58 yes, but apparently wikipedia says that it's another spelling :( 06:45:20 Wikipedia says it can be: panphobia, omniphobia, pantophobia, panophobia. 06:46:02 I suffer from aphobophobia 06:46:07 (Fear of not being afraid) 06:47:01 * oerjan swats hppavilion[1] for ignoring his explanation -----### 06:47:18 oerjan: Wat? 06:47:27 oerjan: I saw, but you were WRONG 06:47:30 zzo38: pantophobia is more like how original greek would combine words 06:47:59 Ah, OK 06:48:24 hppavilion[1]: greek doesn't just fuse words together nilly-willy. you need to use the right form hth 06:48:56 <\oren\> megyn kelly: "and then we have wikileaks, or is it the russians?" other guy on fox: "I wouldn't say that comrade" 06:49:34 But how to combine Greek words to make up words in English? 06:49:35 Fuck, I don't know how to threaten foreign officials. <-- you should take trump lessons hth 06:49:57 oerjan: Oh, good idea 06:50:05 zzo38: here, do it like me: tele- + -vision = tel—wait, shit. 06:51:01 Hoolootwo: the word "pants" apparently comes very indirectly from Παντελεήμων. same pant-.) 06:51:09 *-) 06:52:05 <\oren\> podesta is coming to speak 07:01:11 <\oren\> Hillary Clinton chief flunky John Podesta expected to appear before US public, for ritual self-disembowelment. 07:01:14 <\oren\> 0 replies 260 retweets 322 likes 07:01:30 <\oren\> holy shit lololololololololol 07:02:40 GURPS lists fear of crowds as "demophobia", while Wikipedia says "enochlophobia". Wiktionary mentions both, as well as "ochlophobia". 07:09:38 Also, GURPS uses "brontophobia" for fear of loud noises (Wikipedia says "phonophobia", which make more sense to me), but apparently "brontophobia" actually mean fear of thunder and lightning. 07:12:34 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:16:17 zzo38: brontophobia is fear of mythical creatures hth 07:25:59 Oh my god 07:26:03 I should get in on http://ioling.org/ 07:31:34 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 07:33:10 Wikipedia lists phobophobia, but not aphobophobia. 07:35:17 But what would be the word for fear of left-handed plumbers? 07:40:59 <\oren\> clinton calls trump on phone to concede 07:41:01 <\oren\> trump to appear on stage soon 07:42:11 greekaphobia, the fear of mangled greek coinings 07:43:52 `` rgrep -i greek wisdom 07:44:09 wisdom/ambiguous:Ambiguous, from Greek 'ἀν-' lack of, and 'βιγός' clarity of meaning, means when something is unclear in its meaning. Antonym: biguous. \ wisdom/rho:Rho is the Greek letter that represents the mind, and thus psychology is called rho science. Today's reductionists consider the mind obsolete, and prefer to study new rho scien 07:44:24 where can i hire a hitman on tor? 07:45:06 `` rgrep -i -l greek wisdom 07:45:08 wisdom/ambiguous \ wisdom/rho \ wisdom/odysseus \ wisdom/theseus \ wisdom/rholypoly 07:46:05 `learn Manglophobia is the fear of horribly mangled "Greek" neologisms. 07:46:11 Learned 'manglophobia': Manglophobia is the fear of horribly mangled "Greek" neologisms. 08:00:37 Whoo, I have headphones again! 08:08:01 <\oren\> after his speech trump played the song "you can't always get what you want" 08:10:39 \oren\: Which one? 08:10:48 \oren\: I remember that happening a month or two ago 08:12:12 All programmer poetry (proegretry?) should be written in arbitrary octameter, where an additional message comes out when you take the parts of each foot and decode it as ASCII with nostress = 0, stress = 1 08:14:13 -!- augur has joined. 08:17:09 Or how about just every other, because Pyrrhics and Spondees are hard (and this way every line is one character) 08:26:32 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:53:57 -!- sebbu has joined. 08:54:41 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 09:10:08 [wiki] [[Hi\n]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50177&oldid=49904 * YSomebody * (+139) 09:20:49 -!- MoALTz has joined. 09:21:40 [wiki] [[User:Function call without parameters]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50178&oldid=50110 * Function call without parameters * (-77) 09:26:57 Hm... is there a way to design Democracy so leaders have to keep people happy during their *term* rather than their campaign, other than just having elections frequently enough that they can't just recover immediately before getting reelected? 09:31:10 289 for Trump and 218 for Hillary only? damn 09:31:40 hpp: you don't keep them happy during the term. you just make sure you get re-elected by influencing the people in the few months before the next election. 09:31:46 b_jonas: =507? 09:31:52 b_jonas: hpp doesn't beep me hth 09:32:09 b_jonas: Yes, exactly. I was asking if there's a way to NOT do it that way 09:32:13 hpp: there are still some results missing 09:32:19 to be counted later 09:33:00 To set up a democracy so that you have to keep people happy over the term, not over the campaign 09:33:54 no, you don't have to 09:51:57 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Quit: Leaving). 10:33:01 -!- The_Prospector has quit (Quit: when in doubt, kernel panic). 10:42:19 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 11:04:18 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:04:54 -!- augur has joined. 11:08:56 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:20:39 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 11:21:28 ARGH! and now an internal error from the compiler. yesterday it was the linker. 11:22:31 damn you, microsoft, for your stupid errors 11:34:53 -!- boily has joined. 11:40:10 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:44:34 -!- LKoen has joined. 11:47:49 `wisdom 11:48:36 fternooner//fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. 11:53:13 -!- Jafet has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:05:49 -!- Jafet has joined. 12:24:30 Somasis | anyway, i'm excited to see how the first republican trifecta since literally the year before the great depression occurred goes 12:28:28 -!- boily has quit (Quit: MANIFOLD CHICKEN). 12:29:03 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 12:46:28 -!- benderB787 has joined. 13:18:49 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:24:26 -!- Kaynato has joined. 14:01:41 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 14:12:24 -!- Kaynato has joined. 14:19:51 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 14:34:53 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 14:49:13 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:58:59 -!- Kaynato has joined. 15:25:25 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:27:40 -!- benderB787 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:30:00 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:32:46 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 15:34:15 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 15:45:05 derp de derp 15:46:37 <\oren\> wow, it's actually not even close for hillary. she got nothing from the rust belt 15:47:22 <\oren\> I guess the car manufacturing jobs might leave canada and go back to the us 15:47:36 -!- The_Prospector has joined. 15:51:40 -!- benderB787 has joined. 16:13:53 -!- otherbot has joined. 17:04:11 [wiki] [[Talk:OOLANG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50179&oldid=50176 * Slnetaiga * (+130) 17:04:24 [wiki] [[Talk:OOLANG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50180&oldid=50179 * Slnetaiga * (+1) oops:) 17:06:54 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 17:09:00 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 17:19:22 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:19:52 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 17:20:03 -!- LKoen has joined. 17:20:09 -!- otherbot has quit (Quit: Restart requested by moonythedwarf: adding a new network). 17:21:12 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: rebooting). 17:21:14 -!- otherbot has joined. 17:21:51 -!- otherbot has quit (Client Quit). 17:22:07 -!- otherbot has joined. 17:24:35 -!- LKoen has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 17:26:23 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:30:22 -!- Kaynato has joined. 17:32:42 -!- otherbot has quit (Quit: Restart requested by moonythedwarf: derp). 17:33:01 -!- otherbot has joined. 17:33:08 -!- otherbot has quit (Client Quit). 17:33:25 -!- otherbot has joined. 17:50:23 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:51:54 -!- Caesura has joined. 17:53:24 -!- otherbot has quit (Quit: Restart requested by moonythedwarf: derp). 17:53:40 -!- otherbot has joined. 17:55:08 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:56:25 <\oren\> trump's victory speech is surprisingly positive 18:04:18 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:09:29 -!- LKoen has joined. 18:14:44 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:33:47 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:36:34 Hm, I think I've written something that properly captures a donkey clause in a logical fashion, but I'm not certain 18:37:49 -!- otherbot has quit (Quit: Restart requested by moonythedwarf: derp). 18:38:06 -!- otherbot has joined. 18:39:24 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:39:27 It doesn't have any free variables and it seems to express the concept as I understand it 18:39:38 But I might not be even understanding the problem 18:41:30 Huh, it looks like the issue might be that 'a' is usually read as an \E, but is typically read as an \A? 18:48:32 `? trump 18:48:43 trump? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 18:56:10 -!- heroux has joined. 18:57:24 -!- lezsakdomi has joined. 19:01:30 -!- heroux has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:01:40 -!- heroux has joined. 19:27:12 <\oren\> Melania Trump is now the impending First Lady of the United States 19:27:33 yup :/ 19:27:37 Until the inevitable divorce. 19:27:53 lol 19:28:04 pikhq, you the same pikhq as the one on #xkcd? 19:28:15 Yes. 19:28:20 hi ^_^ 19:28:30 Sal' 19:28:42 -echo hi 19:28:42 In general, if you see a pikhq anywhere it's safe to assume it's me. 19:28:42 hi 19:28:50 pikhq, ok 19:28:55 <\oren\> She's the first First Lady to have appeared nude in magazines 19:28:58 To my knowledge nobody else on the planet uses this nick. 19:29:05 But, y'know, the GOP is all about family values. 19:29:21 (which apparently means "eliminate the gays") 19:29:23 <\oren\> Trump has a big family 19:29:34 A serial divorcer would. 19:29:56 <\oren\> yup 19:30:59 lol 19:31:25 trump has made multiple world records, all of them somewhat wierd and that mak him as a bad president :P 19:31:48 <\oren\> also, first immigrant First Lady since 1829 19:31:49 aka for example getting the (upcoming) first lady to have nude pics in a magazine 19:32:24 And first illegal immigrant First Lady. 19:32:36 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:32:53 Which I wouldn't care much about except that he appears to want to round up and export all 12 million illegal immigrants in 2 years. 19:33:00 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:37:56 <\oren\> pikhq: I dunno how immigration law worked in 1775 when Louisa Adams first came to America 19:41:42 \oren\: We're going to build an ocean barricade and Ireland is going to pay for it 19:43:57 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:44:24 -!- centrinia has joined. 19:50:27 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 20:06:40 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:07:32 [wiki] [[Factory]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50181&oldid=50105 * Enoua5 * (+66) /* BOOT */ 20:08:50 [wiki] [[Factory]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50182&oldid=50181 * Enoua5 * (+19) /* Basic Commands */ 20:09:10 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:18:55 <\oren\> Trump on Kanye: "I hope to run against him someday," 20:19:10 <\oren\> Kanye West 2020! 20:20:33 -!- Caesura has joined. 20:20:33 -!- augur has joined. 20:39:33 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 20:48:59 -!- ffj-bot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:53:30 -!- carado has joined. 20:53:32 -!- lezsakdomi has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:01:19 -!- otherbot has quit (Quit: Quit requested by iczero: aaaaaa). 21:01:35 -!- otherbot has joined. 21:01:43 -!- otherbot_ has joined. 21:01:54 -!- otherbot_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:02:34 -!- otherbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:02:52 -!- otherbot has joined. 21:05:51 -!- otherbot has quit (Client Quit). 21:06:36 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:06:44 -!- otherbot has joined. 21:07:44 -!- otherbot has quit (Client Quit). 21:08:01 -!- otherbot has joined. 21:08:29 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 21:09:28 hmm.... ais523 wasn't in yet? 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