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00:00:04 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: elliptical wedges tdnh
00:00:05 <Taneb> ais523, could be in a torus or something
00:00:18 <ais523> toroidal wedges?
00:00:28 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: Those sound fun, but complicated
00:00:50 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: I think there are at least 41 different ways to generalize spherical wedges to tori
00:00:55 <ais523> there's at least one obvious way to wedge a torus
00:00:57 <ais523> are there others?
00:01:03 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: Probably?
00:01:49 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: Is the way you're thinking of to take that a torus is a circle rotated along another circle, and to instead rotate a sector around that circle?
00:03:32 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: If that makes any sense to you?
00:04:31 <alercah> hppavilion[1]: may I pm?
00:04:39 <hppavilion[1]> alercah: ...sure?
00:09:21 <ais523> hppavilion[1]: yes, that's what I was thinking
00:10:34 <ais523> although the more obvious way is to leave the first circle intact, and only rotate it a fraction of the way
00:14:23 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: Yes, that too. Or to do both together.
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01:28:29 <Phantom_Hoover> `? hackego
01:28:35 <HackEgo> HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico!
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02:03:59 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, I'm thinking about the multiplication parabola (if you draw the parabola f(x) = x^2, take the points at (-a, f(-a)) and (b, f(b)), and draw a line between them, that line's y-intercept is at (0, ab))
02:04:27 <hppavilion[1]> And I thought of how I could generalize it if I use a function other than f(x) = x^2
02:05:50 <hppavilion[1]> The notation used for now will be, when generating the y-coordinate with a function f(x), a[f]b
02:06:31 <hppavilion[1]> And when f(x) = <some expression>, I'll write a[:<some expression>]b
02:06:45 <hppavilion[1]> It appears that 1[:x^3]n is equal to n(n-1) = n^2-n
02:11:55 <hppavilion[1]> (Hm, multiplication of n-tuples could probably be done the same way, by using paraboloids in n dimensions or something...)
02:12:44 <hppavilion[1]> (maybe n+1 dimensions?)
02:25:37 <Phantom_Hoover> wait
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02:30:33 <hppavilion[1]> Phantom_Hoover: From whence?
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02:31:39 <hppavilion[1]> s/From //
02:41:25 <hppavilion[1]> Phantom_Hoover: ??
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02:48:59 <ais523> b(y-a²) = -a(y-b²), so by-a²b = ab²-ay, so (a+b)y = (a+b)ab, so a+b = 0 or y = ab (when a+b = 0, the multiplication parabola thing doesn't work because you're trying to draw a line between two coincident points)
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06:41:55 <izalove> "They are not, however, Call of Duty, Halo, Sunset Overdrive or any number of other games which rely a lot more on CPU than the GPU."
06:42:01 <izalove> why do they rely a lot more on cpu than gpu?
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09:48:33 <hppavilion[1]> `unidecode ɧ
09:48:50 <hppavilion[1]> HackEgslow...
09:48:53 <HackEgo> ​[U+0267 LATIN SMALL LETTER HENG WITH HOOK]
09:49:53 <farrioth> A heng with hook. Don't even know what you use a heng without a hook for.
09:54:43 <hppavilion[1]> farrioth: It's apparently this bizarre evil sound from Swedish (with the hook)
09:55:12 <hppavilion[1]> Presumably, those who can make it can summon black beasts from beyond the domain of sanity
09:55:41 <int-e> you could use it as hook bait, perhaps
09:56:57 <farrioth> As fricatives go, it does seem pretty evil.
09:57:15 <farrioth> Well, fricatives are evil as it is.
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10:23:54 <int-e> `unidecode −
10:23:56 <HackEgo> ​[U+2212 MINUS SIGN]
10:24:23 <oerjan> . o O ( why so negative )
10:24:29 <int-e> `unidecode -
10:24:30 <HackEgo> ​[U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS]
10:24:56 <int-e> oerjan: I got a latex error on a pastebin
10:25:10 <oerjan> shocking
10:25:14 <int-e> and I was wondering what that unicode character they used instead of - was
10:25:39 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, will IRC clients detect me saying OERJAN
10:25:46 <hppavilion[1]> Yep, mine does
10:25:50 <hppavilion[1]> tdh
10:26:00 <oerjan> mine doesn't hth
10:27:07 <hppavilion[1]> How should one read "hth" aloud?
10:27:28 <hppavilion[1]> I've considered "heth" (like the Hebrew letter that probably exists)
10:27:40 <farrioth> I spell it out.
10:27:41 <int-e> . o O ( this is still somewhat surreal )
10:27:58 <oerjan> . o O ( what is surreal )
10:28:20 <hppavilion[1]> . ø Ø ( Now it's surreal in a norwegian way )
10:28:36 <int-e> The #esoteric-without-hppavilion[1] experience.
10:28:43 <oerjan> oh, right
10:28:59 <farrioth> hppavilion[1]: Lol.
10:29:04 <hppavilion[1]> Oh? Wait, did int-e block me...
10:29:23 <farrioth> int-e: Did you /ignore him?
10:31:24 <oerjan> . o O ( apparently int-e is ignoring you too )
10:31:36 <myname> :D
10:32:30 <int-e> Well, I've violated the rule of not talking about ignores... it seems hard to find a place to stop without being awkward. So I'm being awkward.
10:32:50 <farrioth> Because I was talking to someone he doesn't like?
10:32:55 <myname> nah, relatable
10:33:05 <hppavilion[1]> Someone tell int-e ;-;
10:33:59 <int-e> farrioth: nah, if I did that I'd soon be ignoring everybody
10:34:07 <oerjan> especially me
10:35:15 <oerjan> . o O ( the nice thing about being an op is if someone doesn't listen to you you can just ban them *MWAHAHAHA* . o O ( there are probably channels where the ops are like this ) )
10:35:35 <int-e> oh please let me be an op :P
10:36:12 * hppavilion[1] tries to remember what e did to deserve blocking
10:36:31 <myname> hppavilion[1]: that list might be long
10:36:39 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Probably
10:36:51 <hppavilion[1]> But what in particular
10:37:43 <int-e> `? snr
10:37:46 <farrioth> int-e: The channel might be a bit more coherent for you if you unignore him then :p
10:37:48 <HackEgo> snr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
10:38:13 <myname> nah.
10:38:22 <hppavilion[1]> Mostly so I can feel bad about whatever I did and try to stahp
10:38:59 <farrioth> < hppavilion[1]> Mostly so I can feel bad about whatever I did and try to stahp
10:39:12 <myname> you just have a massive amount of output with a fair share of bullshit in it
10:39:22 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Yeah, that's also a possible reason.
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10:47:20 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> Then draw two straightoidal lines following the surface of the sphere between them, what do you <-- itym "geodesic" hth
10:47:59 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Which part? is "geodesic"?
10:48:08 <oerjan> "straightoidal lines"
10:48:09 <hppavilion[1]> "straightoidal lines following the surface of the sphere between them"?
10:48:14 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: tyvmtdh
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11:06:15 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> farrioth: It's apparently this bizarre evil sound from Swedish (with the hook) <-- chockerande
11:06:58 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> Presumably, those who can make it can summon black beasts from beyond the domain of sanity <-- hmm.. i think i'll pass.
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11:29:13 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: I do something like /hθː/, as far as I can tell. (Not an IPA expert.)
11:44:45 <hppavilion[1]> `? banack-tarski
11:44:59 <HackEgo> banack-tarski? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:50:55 <hppavilion[1]> `? banack tarski
11:50:56 <HackEgo> banack tarski? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:51:15 <hppavilion[1]> `? banach-tarski
11:51:16 <HackEgo> ​"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski".
12:02:10 <oerjan> `wisdom bana
12:02:11 <HackEgo> banach-tarski//"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski".
12:04:01 <oerjan> fizzie: /θ/ in there sounds unlikely, it means you're touching your upper teeth with your tongue...
12:04:35 <oerjan> (it's the initial sound in "thing")
12:05:23 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: How is it unlikely?
12:05:26 <myname> doesn't the banach-tarski thing usually go the other way around?
12:05:38 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Yes, but presumably it can be reversed
12:05:38 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: as a pronunciation for the swedish sj
12:05:44 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
12:05:49 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Don't remind me of that
12:05:55 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Oh, wait
12:06:02 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: i assumed that was what fizzie was referring to
12:06:07 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: fizzie was talking about the pronunciation of "hth" afaict
12:06:12 <oerjan> oh.
12:06:17 <oerjan> sorry, i was confused.
12:06:26 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: See that it does not happen again.
12:06:27 <oerjan> fizzie: sorry, i was confused.
12:06:46 <hppavilion[1]> DVORAKUIOP TSQFGHJYL ZXCVBNM
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12:09:59 <hppavilion[1]> Phantom_Helloover, Phantom_Hoover
12:10:16 <hppavilion[1]> What do you think of pronouncing IRC initialisms? e.g. hth, tdh, etc.
12:10:27 <fizzie> oerjan: np tdh hand
12:10:33 <hppavilion[1]> (tdh should be [
12:10:33 <hppavilion[1]> tð])
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12:26:32 <oerjan> `
12:26:32 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found
12:26:43 <oerjan> `? hth
12:26:44 <HackEgo> hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
12:27:28 <oerjan> `slwd hth//s/ / ([ʰtʰʰə̥]) /
12:27:30 <HackEgo> hth//hth ([ʰtʰʰə̥]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
12:27:44 <oerjan> that should clear it up hth
12:28:41 <oerjan> hm maybe the devoicing is a step too far
12:29:29 <oerjan> `slwd hth//s/ə̥/ə/
12:29:31 <HackEgo> hth//hth ([ʰtʰʰə]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
12:29:43 <int-e> Would that be a lithping hith?
12:31:33 <oerjan> no, that would be /θ̩/, completely different hth
12:31:49 <oerjan> actually hm
12:31:53 <int-e> explained with htherto unknown clarity :P
12:33:18 <oerjan> `slwd hth//s/ʰə/h̩/
12:33:20 <HackEgo> hth//hth ([ʰtʰh̩]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
12:36:31 <oerjan> `? oerjan
12:36:33 <HackEgo> Your reverend epistymologist sweet potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
12:36:57 <oerjan> `slwd oerjan//s/epi/IPA/
12:36:59 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your reverend IPAstymologist sweet potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
12:37:35 <int-e> infernally phony alphabet
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12:49:43 <izalove> i go to google analytics by slamming 'anal' into chrome and hoping it autocompletes but today that ended badly at work 😳
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13:45:46 <int-e> `grwp lollipop
13:45:53 <HackEgo> Binary file reflection matches
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14:13:17 <int-e> oh, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvH9gfFWcAA2knK.jpg is both awful and beautiful.
14:15:29 <int-e> (corresponding tweet: https://twitter.com/UdellGames/status/788690145822306304 )
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20:57:16 <izalove> what if i want a program to sleep for a while without making syscalls and without my cpu catching fire?
21:05:11 <int-e> apparently there's _mm_pause(); meant for use in spin loops. (however, if you really want to sleep you should tell the OS, using yield() or usleep() or friends)
21:05:37 <izalove> i don't want a sleep in strace
21:05:54 <int-e> you really should not care.
21:06:12 <int-e> sleeping is the right thing to do under the circumstances you describe.
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22:02:44 <zzo38> I may be starting in a GURPS campaign, but I also intended I may design my own role playing system which would be public domain, and I wanted to know if you and others can help with it too?
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22:19:43 <hppavilion[1]> God, I want to be able to look up various things that people like to do occasionally and get information on *how* it's done, not a million shitty programs that do it in a way that's useless to me
22:37:10 <zzo38> What things is that?
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22:46:54 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: In this case, it was pitch scaling
22:46:57 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: Which I figured out
22:47:08 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: I want to find a way to get Voice of the Legion
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22:50:17 <hppavilion[1]> ahoily!
22:50:41 <boily> hppavellon[1]!
22:50:56 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I'm trying to figure out how to play audio sample streams together.
22:51:02 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: I seem to have been told you figured it out?
22:53:12 <boily> eh?
22:54:21 <Zarutian> zzo38: are you going to have it skill-based where classes are more like guidelines than strict boxes?
22:54:59 <boily> `wisdom
22:55:01 <HackEgo> nvd//nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional.
22:56:11 <hppavilion[1]> boily: But did taneb invent it?
22:56:12 <zzo38> Zarutian: What does it mean "strict boxes" and "skill-based" in these cases?
22:56:17 <hppavilion[1]> * Taneb
22:57:29 <Zarutian> zzo38: stuff like "lock picking", "smooth talking", "tracking" for the skill-based and "mage", "rogue", "paladin" and so on for the "strict boxes".
22:58:38 <boily> hppavilion[1]: he also goes by Tanea and Tanec hth
22:58:58 <shachaf> `? tanea
22:58:59 <HackEgo> Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj.
22:59:34 <zzo38> Zarutian: I would have individual skills, although possibly classes as well (but if so, you can still select any skill regardless of class and you can still multiclass freely).
22:59:36 <Zarutian> does he go by Taned when he has been in sun a lot?
22:59:41 <izalove> i'm watching harry potter 4 and they're in the labyrinth
22:59:48 <izalove> cedric casted expelliarmus on krum
22:59:51 <izalove> krum fainted
23:00:07 <izalove> cedric runs towards his body and kicks his wand off his hand
23:00:15 <izalove> wasn't expelliarmus supposed to do that?
23:02:08 * boily thwacks Zarutian. 0.46 FP.
23:02:37 * Zarutian takes aim at boily with his unnerver.
23:03:52 * boily hides behind hppavilion[1]. "you won't take me alive!"
23:04:32 <zzo38> Do you like this?
23:06:02 <Zarutian> like what?
23:06:14 <boily> like who?
23:07:07 <zzo38> What I mentioned
23:07:14 * Zarutian casually holsters that thing in a way that makes it very unnoticable.
23:07:21 <Zarutian> aah, yes.
23:08:42 <Zarutian> It is really fun playing say a character that looks like an paladin candidate bulk and strengthwise but is really an rogue with extreme stelth and a few simple spells.
23:09:30 <izalove> apparently many others found that before me :(
23:09:32 * izalove sad
23:09:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50188&oldid=50167 * Eamanu * (+145)
23:10:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50189&oldid=50188 * Eamanu * (+16)
23:11:22 <Zarutian> faviourite tatic of said bulky rogue is to cast 'loadstone' on furniture and throw it at his pursuers "Here hold this for me".
23:11:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ARGENTOS]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50190 * Eamanu * (+9190) Created page with "'''Argentos''' nació como producto del concurso ''CALESYTA 2016 (Concurso Argentino de Lenguajes Esotéricos y Tarpits)''. En un principio iba a ser un lenguaje más “clás..."
23:12:02 <zzo38> O, OK, if you have such a spell
23:12:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ARGENTOS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50191&oldid=50190 * Eamanu * (-1)
23:12:51 <Zarutian> the concept of 'loadstone' is fron nethack iirc
23:13:35 <zzo38> OK
23:14:39 <zzo38> I could have such a spell available.
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23:16:11 <zzo38> I thought to use "algebraic mana" system for spells. You must prepare spells, and also have the correct mana (which also needs correct colours) to cast it; once cast, you lose the mana spent but regain the slot to prepare another (or the same) spell. Mana will also recover per day.
23:16:24 <shachaf> A loadstone is useful if you have a savestone.
23:20:36 * ski . o O ( <http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/195> )
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23:54:40 <zzo38> What GURPS is missing is rules for general and special relativity and quantum physics.
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