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00:01:42 <hppavilion[1]> Like, if you have a sorting algorithm that works in O(n log n) where n is the length of the list, but you're trying to sort based on the cardinality of prime factorization using an algorithm that runs in O(k^3) (did I not mention that someone proved that integer factorization is in P in this hypothetical scenario? :P)
00:02:59 <hppavilion[1]> Then the actual sorting would be at least O(k^3 n log n), though a few terms there might be superfluous
00:03:12 <shachaf> You can factor primes in O(1) time.
00:03:16 <shachaf> Or at most O(log n).
00:04:27 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: ...integer factorization. Finding the prime factorization of the number.
00:04:31 <izalove> void factor(int prime) { printf("1 %d\n", prime); }
00:05:12 <shachaf> Yes.
00:05:22 <shachaf> O(log n)
00:05:45 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: ...what problem do you think I'm describing?
00:06:23 <izalove> and what part of that is log n?
00:06:32 <shachaf> The printf.
00:06:35 <shachaf> And maybe the function call?
00:06:44 <shachaf> I guess that depends on your calling convention.
00:06:50 <hppavilion[1]> *sigh*
00:06:59 <izalove> why does printf take log n time?
00:07:14 <shachaf> Because the string length is logarithmic in the integer.
00:07:17 <izalove> ok
00:07:23 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: You can factor a subset of wholes in O(1)
00:07:25 <izalove> but it's at most 10 bytes
00:07:38 <shachaf> Oh, you're using real C, not hypothetical C with unbounded integers?
00:07:42 <shachaf> Then everything is O(1) hth
00:07:45 <izalove> ok
00:07:46 <shachaf> s/T/t/
00:08:01 <hppavilion[1]> One of us is being an idiot.
00:08:03 <shachaf> I should be writing a theta but I don't have the key here.
00:08:04 <hppavilion[1]> I'm not sure which one.
00:08:13 <shachaf> ?
00:09:02 <izalove> `` us=( 'hppavilion[1]' shachaf izalove ); echo "\${us[RANDOM%3]} is an idiot"
00:09:03 <HackEgo> izalove is an idiot
00:09:08 <izalove> fuck
00:09:15 <shachaf> d3
00:09:15 <lambdabot> shachaf: 2
00:09:42 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: You didn't declare who each number corresponds to tdnh
00:10:02 <shachaf> I don't want to declare anyone an idiot.
00:10:05 <shachaf> Why would I do that?
00:11:18 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: toucheACUTE
00:12:22 <hppavilion[1]> `? Taneb
00:12:25 <HackEgo> Taneb is not elliott, no matter whom you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions).
00:12:41 <Taneb> The who with the what now
00:12:51 * hppavilion[1] hides
00:14:27 <shachaf> `cwlprits taneb
00:14:38 <HackEgo> shachäf shachäf Tanëb oerjän boil̈y Tanëb oerjän Tanëb oerjän shachäf boil̈y oerjän shachäf shachäf shachäf oerjän Tanëb nitïa
00:15:05 <hppavilion[1]> Now we need a way to `? without triggering a nick
00:15:40 <hppavilion[1]> `?uiet
00:16:17 <Taneb> I think I will depart as quickly as I arrived now
00:16:22 <Taneb> On account of it is time for bed
00:16:58 <hppavilion[1]> I think it'd have to be a separate command like `?uiet which takes an argument with a special separator, removes the separator (with escaping somehow), passes the new content to ?, then returns its output with the deseparated version replaced with a non-nick-triggering one
00:19:00 <shachaf> `` \? \$(rot13 gnaro) | rot13
00:19:01 <hppavilion[1]> So if _ is the separator, [`?uiet Ta_neb] will return "Tanëb is not elliott, no matter whom you ask. He also isn't ..."
00:19:02 <HackEgo> Gnaro vf abg ryyvbgg, ab znggre jubz lbh nfx. Ur nyfb vfa'g n enoov nygubhtu ur unf cergraqrq va gur cnfg. Ur unf ng yrnfg gjb onpxhc xrlobneqf jvgu qbqtl FUVSG XRlf, phor ebbg bs avar traqref, naq nobir nirentr, abg gbb ibyhzvabhf, ohg pnyz rlroebjf. Ur fbzrgvzrf vairagf jvgubhg abgvpvat vg (frr: gnaroiragvbaf).
00:30:19 <hppavilion[1]> `unidecode
00:30:20 <HackEgo> No output.
00:30:23 <hppavilion[1]> `unidecode ढथग
00:30:24 <HackEgo> ​[U+0922 DEVANAGARI LETTER DDHA] [U+0925 DEVANAGARI LETTER THA] [U+0917 DEVANAGARI LETTER GA]
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00:43:51 <Jafet> `? gnaro
00:43:52 <HackEgo> gnaro? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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00:46:08 <moonheart08> i am the ugly nesting 3000: world[room.content.exits[Object.keys(room.content.exits)[exitInd]]]
00:46:18 <moonheart08> (actual piece of code from something im writing)
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01:54:57 <oerjan> @messages-foul
01:54:57 <lambdabot> hppavilion[1] said 18h 58m 8s ago: I believe pledis is next to be banned, if you check the logs.
01:55:09 <oerjan> WE'LL SEE
01:58:50 <shachaf> messages most foul
01:59:11 <shachaf> oerjan: Do you match the @messages suffix to the messages that you know you're about to receive because you read the logs anyway?
01:59:24 <oerjan> ...MAYBE.
01:59:28 <oerjan> (yeth)
01:59:47 <shachaf> I didn't realize that until I saw your poem.
01:59:52 <shachaf> Actually I didn't realize it until now.
02:00:00 <oerjan> epiphany!
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02:06:16 <oerjan> there seems to be a hole in the logs, i'm going to assume nothing of interest happened...
02:07:08 <oerjan> it was silent enough it's likely to be true.
02:08:34 <shachaf> When?
02:10:34 <oerjan> 3:27 - 5:03
02:10:43 <oerjan> tunes time.
02:11:03 <oerjan> (which may or may not be a round timezone these days.
02:11:07 <oerjan> )
02:11:11 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: What IS tunes ti- oh.
02:11:17 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Is it a UTC+ of any sort?
02:11:34 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: What's on the sides of the log?
02:11:49 <hppavilion[1]> (loghole)
02:12:21 <oerjan> 03:27:32 --- nick: MoALTz_ -> MoALTz
02:12:39 <oerjan> 05:04:02 --- join: clog (~nef@bespin.org) joined #esoteric
02:13:21 <oerjan> (it also had a very brief break earlier)
02:14:08 <oerjan> the previous message of any interest was your @tell
02:14:22 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
02:14:24 <oerjan> and the next was \oren\'s TTF talk
02:15:33 <zzo38> How much does the GURPS fourth edition basic set Characters book weigh (in pounds)?
02:15:55 <oerjan> so basically nothing in 10 1/2 hours, so it seems likely tunes missed nothing in its breaks either
02:18:14 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> Bowserinator: ...Oh, I thought this was #xkcd xD <-- and somehow, it didn't really look out of place.
02:18:32 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Well true
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02:30:31 <oerjan> <shachaf> You can factor primes in O(1) time. <-- O(n) hth
02:30:56 <shachaf> is n the number of factors here
02:31:06 <oerjan> the n is conventionally input size in bits or equivalent
02:31:30 <oerjan> so, assuming writing a character of output is O(1)...
02:32:29 <oerjan> (which is true for TMs)
02:33:07 <shachaf> n is obvious the number you're factoring hth
02:33:08 <shachaf> ly
02:33:18 <oerjan> `? ly
02:33:25 <HackEgo> ly? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
02:33:32 <oerjan> a common misconception.
02:33:35 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: obviously
02:33:50 <hppavilion[1]> obvious ly is obvious
02:34:09 <oerjan> ah. obvious
02:36:04 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, that's where dingbat is familiar from
02:36:09 <hppavilion[1]> that or this. whichever.
02:37:04 <dingbat> I ARE BEEN SUMMON
02:37:22 <dingbat> what is it that you require to be dinged or batted?
02:38:47 <hppavilion[1]> dingbat: ...nothing, I was just noting that I realized I recognize you in nomic from here
02:46:55 * dingbat goes back into his hole
02:49:33 * oerjan sees no dingbat in ##nomic
02:50:07 <dingbat> oerjan: a different network :)
03:05:26 <shachaf> oerjan: nomic people tend to be silent hth
03:05:52 <oerjan> yes, but not invisible
03:19:17 <oerjan> `? whom
03:19:20 <HackEgo> See: who
03:37:07 <shachaf> `? u
03:37:26 <shachaf> `? the u
03:37:27 <HackEgo> The U are a very mad people.
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04:53:33 <hppavilion[1]> `? abyss
04:53:38 <HackEgo> In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same.
04:54:04 <hppavilion[1]> I thing "`? you" would be a better entry there.
04:55:48 <zzo38> Do anyone on here know how to figure new modifier values for GURPS?
04:57:31 <alercah> `? esoterria
04:57:33 <HackEgo> esoterria? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:57:46 <alercah> `? esoterra
04:57:47 <HackEgo> esoterra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:58:48 <alercah> `learn Esoterra is the planet of Esoterrans, also known as esolangers. The proof of its existence is non-constructive, although some suspect that it is in fact Earth.
04:58:53 <HackEgo> Learned 'esoterra': Esoterra is the planet of Esoterrans, also known as esolangers. The proof of its existence is non-constructive, although some suspect that it is in fact Earth.
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05:34:34 <\oren\> AAAAAA
05:34:41 <oerjan> A?
05:35:11 <\oren\> why do movies keep showing the engines on spaceships firing when the ship is going at a constant velocity?!??
05:35:34 <oerjan> space molasses hth
05:35:46 <\oren\> spaceships only fire their engines when they CHANGE their velocity!!!!!!!!
05:36:06 <alercah> \oren\: when to movies keep showing spaceships with engines only at the back steering?
05:44:30 <zzo38> GURPS has both kinds
06:41:54 <hppavilion[1]> versin t = 1-cos(t)
06:42:14 <hppavilion[1]> coversin t = 1+cos(t)
06:42:16 <hppavilion[1]> Hm...
06:42:30 <hppavilion[1]> a(+)b = 1/((1/a)+(1/b))
06:42:45 <hppavilion[1]> harmcoversin t = 1(+)cos(t)
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11:38:08 <boily> `wisdom
11:38:22 <HackEgo> caps lock//CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR TIRED OLD MEMES
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12:10:40 <int-e> `quote
12:10:53 <HackEgo> 105) <oklopol> but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well
12:13:46 <int-e> ... Oh that's what inspired \oren\'s remark about Granny Smith yesterday.
12:16:26 <boily> fungot: fungellot. can you clarify that?
12:16:26 <fungot> boily: i also love the sound of that it's just that i was a pilot when shinra was killed! ulp! what a crew. expert! enlighten us on limit techniques, why don't you think we're welcome here? rude of the ones you were sad.
12:16:45 <boily> fungot: I like the sound of coffee.
12:16:45 <fungot> boily: oh? that's too bad.
12:16:54 <boily> fungot: no, really, it's good coffee.
12:16:54 <fungot> boily: it's not you they're after sephiroth.... i cannot speak. even the rooms of people in midgar. i'm ...really... sorry...
12:17:15 <boily> fungot: I'm not Sephiroth. I'm also not Taneb.
12:17:16 <fungot> boily: uh... tifa... i don't know each other. until one day you'll meet the real world, being done in like that, buy!! we sell! we buy!!
12:17:22 <boily> fungot: neither am I Tifa.
12:17:57 <int-e> fungot seems to be in a dark mood
12:17:57 <fungot> int-e: ye... yes let's... yet let's... yet let's...! is that the way....... that one! this is it?
12:18:12 <int-e> ...
12:20:29 <boily> ^botsnack
12:20:29 <fungot> Oh nom nom nom!
12:20:33 <boily> ^style irc
12:20:33 <fungot> Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams)
12:20:38 * boily pats the fungot
12:20:38 <fungot> boily: it makes perfect sense...
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13:57:49 <moonythedwarf> moo2
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14:44:30 <moonythedwarf> hi b_jonas
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15:36:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ReThue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50430&oldid=44321 * SuperJedi224 * (-1252) Blanked the page
15:44:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[HBL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50431&oldid=50424 * Moon * (+121) Added categories
16:16:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Math++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50432&oldid=44685 * SuperJedi224 * (+2) /* Subtraction */
16:17:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Math++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50433&oldid=50432 * SuperJedi224 * (-27) /* Cube Root */
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17:50:02 <b_jonas> In git, if I want to reset the current branch to a different state and move the working tree and index to there as well, is it true that instead of messing with git reset, I should instead (curbranch=\$(git rev-parse --abbrev-ref HEAD); git checkout targetcommit && git checkout -B "\$curbranch") because that properly deletes version-controlled files that exist in the current state but not in the new state?
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20:29:45 <\oren\> now there's an element named after tennissee?!
20:31:06 <shachaf> What's wrong with Tennessee?
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20:44:01 <\oren\> shachaf: I prefer then they name elements after people
20:44:12 <shachaf> It's named after Tennessee Williams, obviously.
20:44:51 <shachaf> What do you think of Yttrium, Ytterbium, Terbium, and Erbium?
20:45:09 <shachaf> They're all named after the same Swedish village.
20:45:13 <Phantom_Hoover> or strontium
20:45:16 <Phantom_Hoover> or ruthenium
20:45:18 <Phantom_Hoover> or polonium
20:45:29 <Phantom_Hoover> or americium
20:45:46 <shachaf> Well, plenty of elements are named after places.
20:45:51 <shachaf> Like Berkelium!
20:46:33 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
20:46:33 <lambdabot> KOAK 011953Z 30011KT 10SM FEW150 14/05 A3012 RMK AO2 SLP200 T01440050
20:46:36 <shachaf> `? weather
20:46:46 <HackEgo> lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK PAMR
20:46:51 <lambdabot> CYUL 012000Z 23018G25KT 15SM -RA BKN020 OVC030 07/03 A2946 RMK SC6SC2 SLP978 \ ENVA 012020Z 26021KT 9999 FEW012 BKN017 BKN022 02/01 Q1006 TEMPO 1000 SHSN VV005 RMK WIND 670FT 28026KT \ ESSB 012020Z
20:46:51 <lambdabot> 30006KT CAVOK M02/M07 Q0998 R30/19//60 \ KOAK 011953Z 30011KT 10SM FEW150 14/05 A3012 RMK AO2 SLP200 T01440050 \ PAMR 011953Z 05003KT 9SM OVC055 A2925 RMK AO2 SNE45 SLPNO P0000 \$
20:47:29 <Phantom_Hoover> i think like a third of elements are named after places
20:47:47 <shachaf> Many places are named after people, though.
20:47:57 <Phantom_Hoover> scandium, gallium, germanium, indium
20:48:02 <Phantom_Hoover> shachaf, ...no?
20:48:24 <shachaf> Berkeley, CA is named after George Berkeley, for example.
20:48:45 <shachaf> America is named after Amerigo Vespucci.
20:49:20 <int-e> hmm, Paris?
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20:50:26 * int-e without verbs today, apparently.
20:50:28 <Phantom_Hoover> meanwhile strontian, russia, poland, scandinavia, gaul and india are not named after people
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20:57:42 <Phantom_Hoover> ah, hafnium, manganese, magnesium and europium also
21:08:02 * moony nouse verbs
21:08:32 <moony> @messages-loud
21:08:32 <lambdabot> APic said 3d 7h 51m 22s ago: Discord is proprietary, centralized, and probably records all Conversations. Also „We also added Virus Scanning, which will automatically scan uploaded executables and
21:08:32 <lambdabot> archives to make sure they're safe.“ So: Everything goes through the Servers and is indexed; so maybe it has a Voicechat You can use without paying Money, but it is absolutely not _free_. You are
21:08:32 <lambdabot> paying with Your Privacy.
21:11:09 <int-e> "you're the product"
21:11:14 * moony wonders if his HBL->Boolfuck translation is accurate
21:13:49 <\oren\> @metar CYYZ
21:13:50 <lambdabot> CYYZ 012100Z 25015KT 15SM OVC025 05/00 A2966 RMK SC8 SLP051
21:15:57 <\oren\> europe is named after a phoenician princess
21:17:21 <\oren\> who was kidnapped by zeus when zeus was in the form of a bull
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21:54:29 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
21:54:29 <lambdabot> EGLL 012150Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT036 03/02 Q1028
21:59:27 <ais523> @tell Vorpal found while trying to find cfunge's website: https://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/roche/courses/f12si413/project/befunge.php.html (apparently cfunge is genuinely being used in academia as a teaching aid, and the resulting website outranks the cfunge repo in the search I did; I didn't even realise cfunge did Befunge-93, maybe it doesn't)
21:59:27 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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22:38:08 <\oren\> U.S. media report multiple shootings by butcher knife in Ohio province, sparking world-wide search for manufacturer of miraculous knife.
22:39:47 <int-e> Hmm, butcher knife armed with deadly AI.
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23:18:30 <zzo38> I found someone used -n and +b and +e channel modes to make it similar to having +n but some clients are exempt.
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