00:02:14 [wiki] [[Starfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50463&oldid=50462 * Redstarcoder * (+33) /* Concepts */ 00:02:30 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50464&oldid=50444 * Redstarcoder * (+20) /* Non-alphabetic */ Added *><> 00:02:40 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 00:04:18 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 00:18:19 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 00:19:53 [wiki] [[Starfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50465&oldid=50463 * Redstarcoder * (-50) 00:24:25 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 00:39:05 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:39:49 -!- Zarutian has joined. 00:40:16 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:40:17 -!- Zarutian has joined. 00:44:14 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:44:59 -!- FreeFull has joined. 00:47:26 there appears to be a nearly 2 hour gap in the logs. if anyone said anything of interest, please repeat it here twh 00:47:42 * oerjan whistles innocently 00:48:13 `quote 709 00:48:22 709) Sgeo: I used to have strict requirements for when I said hi but then everyone started saying hi and it all got weird 00:48:58 and then it gweirdot, but i think monqy was gone by then. 00:49:21 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:49:41 (boilyh) 00:49:43 hellørjan. which two hours twh 00:50:05 `? gweirdot 00:50:07 gweirdot? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:50:23 oerjan: When was the gap? 00:50:26 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 00:50:31 from 01:33 to 3:20 tunes time hth 00:51:09 I'll give you the missing bits. 00:51:20 yay 00:51:52 -!- moonheart08 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 00:52:09 `? oerjan 00:52:12 Your golfing @massages-lord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Glasswegian who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience; but lately it's the only word he can ever remember. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 00:52:19 `slwrjan s#golfing#completionist# 00:52:19 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: slwrjan: not found 00:52:35 `doag bin/slwrjan 00:52:45 9808:2016-11-30 ` mv bin/s{l,}wrjan # no slash \ 9700:2016-11-17 mkx bin/slwrjan//slwd "oerjan//$1" 00:52:53 Oh, right. 00:53:20 `swrjan s#golfing#completionist#; soaoeo 00:53:24 oerjan//Your completionist @messages-lord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Glasswegian who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience; but lately it's the only word he can ever remember. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 00:54:02 oerjan doesn't massage; I do. 00:57:53 <\oren\> how did you italic? 00:58:36 izalove taught me 00:58:43 normally you have to be italian 00:59:00 what italic, i see reverse video hth 00:59:44 <\oren\> I can do 𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑐 like this 01:00:13 <\oren\> but I think the way hackego is doing it, it looks different 01:00:32 reverse video 01:00:41 <\oren\> thats italic for me 01:00:59 both are reverse for me. 01:01:12 the onlitalic I saw was the \oren\ one. 01:02:37 <\oren\> I did it using unicode 01:02:55 -!- moonheart08 has joined. 01:03:06 mhelloony. are you italic? 01:03:17 <\oren\> test 01:04:09 bold. 01:05:10 <\oren\> test 01:05:16 <\oren\> test 01:05:25 space test, and respace retest. 01:05:27 Please don't beep. 01:05:30 That's quite rude. 01:05:39 there was a beep? 01:05:47 <\oren\> I used control G 01:05:59 <\oren\> test 01:06:30 <\oren\> test 01:06:46 rerespace reretest, reand rererespace rereretest. 01:07:24 -!- moonheart08 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 01:08:12 Don't ^G please. 01:10:50 `? cdop 01:10:53 CDOP is OCPD, except with the letters in the *proper* order. 01:16:10 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 01:17:04 `swrjan s/oerjan/swr &/ 01:17:08 oerjan//Your completionist @messages-lord swr oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Glasswegian who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience; but lately it's the only word he can ever remember. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 01:17:28 -!- yorick has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.). 01:17:44 -!- yorick_ has joined. 01:17:44 -!- yorick_ has quit (Changing host). 01:17:44 -!- yorick_ has joined. 01:22:00 `? boily 01:22:01 "Only sane man" boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring. 01:22:15 one measly character less. that is unacceptable! 01:22:24 `? Zarutian 01:22:26 You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as a techincian, banal mistakes of engineers. Also a provider of authentic fakes. 01:23:22 * ybden s at shachaf 01:23:41 Was that a ^G? 01:24:26 Yes. 01:24:41 Why does asking people not to do things cause them to do those things? 01:24:45 <\oren\> `` head -c 10 wisdom/oerjan | od -c 01:24:46 0000000 Y o u r 026 c o m p \ 0000012 01:25:16 <\oren\> test 01:26:06 <\oren\> test 01:26:09 <\oren\> YES 01:26:18 <\oren\> control V 01:26:55 <\oren\> hooray hooray its a glorius day for I have found my cow! 01:27:11 Please stop. 01:27:15 -!- shachaf has left. 01:28:04 I suppose since shachaf is gone, there is no need to stop 01:28:37 <\oren\> 01:28:50 <\oren\> i suppose so 01:29:57 @tell shachaf I believe it's called reverse psychology hth 01:29:57 Consider it noted. 01:30:16 * boily mapoles \oren\ 01:32:37 `le/rn Zarutian/You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from the guild of Realers. 01:32:39 All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format. 01:32:55 `le//rn Zarutian/You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from the guild of Realers. 01:32:57 All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format. 01:33:07 `le//rn Zarutian//You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from the guild of Realers. 01:33:10 Relearned 'zarutian': You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider 01:34:48 * boily fears Zarutian's unnerver 01:37:42 `? Zarutian 01:37:44 You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from the guild 01:37:50 `le//rn Icelandic unnerver/An steampunkish looking hand cannon that spews freezingly hot lava out its recreational end. Uses epidermal DNA analyses, thaumic history excerpts and recognition of both multiphasic intristic tesla fields and personal sensorium-motor flair for authenticating authorized users. 01:37:51 All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format. 01:38:07 hmm? how does one append? 01:38:13 `le//rn Icelandic unnerver//An steampunkish looking hand cannon that spews freezingly hot lava out its recreational end. Uses epidermal DNA analyses, thaumic history excerpts and recognition of both multiphasic intristic tesla fields and personal sensorium-motor flair for authenticating authorized users. 01:38:15 Learned 'icelandic unnerver': An steampunkish looking hand cannon that spews freezingly hot lava out its recreational end. Uses epidermal DNA analyses, thaumic history excerpts and recognition of both multiphasic intristic tesla fields and personal sensorium-motor flair for authenticating authorized users. 01:38:45 `` ls bin/*append* 01:38:47 bin/append \ bin/learn_append \ bin/learn_append2 01:39:09 Zarutian: are you a VX junkie, by chance? 01:39:18 fizziello. 01:39:32 I met an Icelandic person today. 01:39:47 `le//rn_append Zarutian// of Realers. 01:39:50 Learned 'zarutian': You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' 01:40:22 `learn_append Zarutian of Realers. 01:40:26 Learned 'zarutian': You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' 01:40:47 `? Zarutian 01:40:50 You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from the guild 01:41:05 boily: VX? 01:41:17 https://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies/ 01:42:04 `` tail -c 50 wisdom/zarutian # Zarutian: I think you overcompensated. 01:42:05 om the guild of Realers. of Realers. of Realers. 01:42:18 damn 01:42:42 `quote april lavigne 01:42:43 No output. 01:42:48 `quote airbus 01:42:49 96) AnMaster: to any airbus plane. 3 passengers sadly died the most awesome thing ever. \ 923) kmc: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there \ 1031) boily: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there 01:42:50 `le//rn Zarutian//You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from the guild 01:42:52 Relearned 'zarutian': You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider 01:43:24 `learn_append Zarutian of Realers. 01:43:27 Learned 'zarutian': You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' 01:45:29 internet connection disappeared again... only lasted about 27 mins though 01:46:42 Why does asking people not to do things cause them to do those things? <-- law of attraction hth htht 01:46:53 (argh) 01:47:10 oerjan: shachaf isn't present hth 01:47:12 (net is still laggy which hurts my typing) 01:53:26 ybden: he's probably destined to avoid learning that, then. 01:53:54 oh well 01:54:22 `slwd icelandic unnerver//s/../An Icelandic unnerver is a/ 01:54:26 icelandic unnerver//An Icelandic unnerver is a steampunkish looking hand cannon that spews freezingly hot lava out its recreational end. Uses epidermal DNA analyses, thaumic history excerpts and recognition of both multiphasic intristic tesla fields and personal sensorium-motor flair for authenticating authorized users. 01:56:53 * boily is right in being afraid of Zarutian's unnerver. 01:59:01 `` tail -c 50 wisdom/zarutian 01:59:02 fakes provider' seal from the guild of Realers. 01:59:25 `slwd zarutian//s/ of/ of/ 01:59:28 zarutian//You can trust Zarutian, he fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from 01:59:46 Zarutian: the entry itself is fine, you're just hitting HackEgo's output length limit 02:00:01 `slwd zarutian//s/, h/. H/ 02:00:04 zarutian//You can trust Zarutian. He fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Posseses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from 02:00:17 what's an ocap? 02:00:21 Aww, 'tis no longer the recreational end. 02:00:39 ybden: what? 02:00:47 oerjan: cant HackEgo break the output into numerous PRIVMSGes? 02:01:00 `slwd zarutian//sse\sese\s\ses 02:01:02 zarutian//You can trust Zarutian. He fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Possesses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from 02:01:42 oerjan: 'twas originally "[...] that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its recreational end. [...]" hth 02:01:58 Zarutian: did I encocoonspirate you with the Wisdom Repository yet? 02:02:25 ybden: what are you talking about? 02:02:38 also, even the // version of append inserts a space. it's rarely needed though since learn_append works for anything not containing spaces in the key. 02:02:39 `? Icelandic unnerver 02:02:40 An Icelandic unnerver is a steampunkish looking hand cannon that spews freezingly hot lava out its recreational end. Uses epidermal DNA analyses, thaumic history excerpts and recognition of both multiphasic intristic tesla fields and personal sensorium-motor flair for authenticating authorized users. 02:02:57 Er, wasn't originally 02:03:06 At some point, it was changed to the recreational end 02:03:10 And then back to business end 02:03:38 ybden: are you sure? ;-Þ 02:03:52 ...yes 02:04:04 < Zarutian> `le//rn Icelandic unnerver//An steampunkish looking hand cannon that spews freezingly hot lava out its recreational end. Uses epidermal DNA analyses, thaumic history excerpts and recognition of both multiphasic intristic tesla fields and personal sensorium-motor flair for authenticating authorized users. 02:04:05 Zarutian: could you github me please? 02:04:32 oerjan: cant HackEgo break the output into numerous PRIVMSGes? <-- it never answers a single command with more than one line. this is a feature. we have some commands for splitting up, but you need to ask for the next line. 02:05:29 `1 \? zarutian 02:05:32 1/2:You can trust Zarutian. He fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Possesses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' 02:07:01 `spam 02:07:02 2/2: seal from the guild of Realers. 02:14:06 @ask tswett it may even be possible that we can prove Goldbach's conjecture in ZFC, and there exists a counterexample too large to be effectively described in ZFC 02:14:06 Consider it noted. 02:14:39 -!- boily has quit (Quit: HYPERDIMENSIONAL CHICKEN). 02:15:22 Jafet: but then ZFC is inconsistent. 02:16:08 since any counterexample can be checked in finite time. 02:19:22 why do people even care about goldbach? 02:19:25 it's a stupid problem 02:19:42 i can come up with dozens of stupid problems like that 02:19:47 that can take centuries to solve 02:20:07 that are as simple? 02:20:08 it has no application whatsoever 02:20:36 neither did fermat's last theorem, yet trying to solve it launched modern algebra. 02:21:44 but then after that initial input it was irrelevant for a century? 02:22:10 i don't know much about that. 02:23:30 "why do people even care about anything that has no applications" 02:24:02 that's essentially what you're asking. 02:25:01 modern algebra proved fermat's last theorem by accident, for the most part 02:25:03 sort of, but applications in this case can also mean theoretical applications 02:25:15 Jafet: think older modern algebra 02:26:34 what they have in common is that they are simple problems that test the limits of the available tools, challenging mathematicians to develop better tools. 02:27:37 the reason why they're useless is the same as the reason why they're focused on: they're the simplest too hard problems of their kind. 02:30:11 also, they _do_ get some excessive attention because they're simple enough to be understood by a non-professional mathematician. 02:30:50 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:46:46 <\oren\> ❄dvcalc 23.916 184000 dawn 02:46:46 <\oren\> ☃ Δv = 60438.9967102714 02:46:57 <\oren\> that oughta do it 03:04:35 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 03:05:56 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:06:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:06:08 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 03:06:34 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 03:08:21 -!- carado has joined. 03:11:46 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 04:03:01 -!- Sgeo has joined. 04:10:30 -!- mad has joined. 04:15:35 -!- Akaibu has quit. 04:38:38 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 04:55:51 -!- tromp_ has quit. 05:03:04 -!- tromp has joined. 05:07:52 -!- Akaibu has joined. 05:13:59 freefall :P 05:14:29 -!- ^v has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:14:57 -!- nvd has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:15:54 -!- alakra has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:16:21 -!- dingbat has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:16:21 -!- staffehn_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:16:33 -!- staffehn has joined. 05:18:40 Someone please calculate d(the Universe)/dt 05:18:45 @massages-poud 05:18:45 boily said 6h 14m 29s ago: hppavellon[1]. proper gender-neutral pronouns are shi and hir hth 05:19:16 does the universe have a spectrum? 05:20:31 -!- ^v has joined. 05:20:39 -!- Taneb has joined. 05:21:42 mad: A wat? 05:21:55 a spectrum 05:21:58 like 05:22:02 high frequencies 05:22:06 medium frequencies 05:22:07 bass 05:23:28 -!- dingbat has joined. 05:24:25 -!- alakra has joined. 05:32:59 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 05:53:13 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 06:01:12 https://github.com/pjf/rickastley I believe this concept will have broad approval. 06:01:18 For a brief presentation on the subject, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ 06:25:24 -!- Perenelle has joined. 06:25:47 Good Evening 06:42:04 Hm, germany was trying to ban adblockers at some point 06:42:29 But here's a problem with it: I have a pretty good feeling it's illegal to fund Nazi groups in Germany 06:42:52 the newspapers still want to d that 06:43:09 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:44:19 But together it would mean it's illegal to even *visit* sites used by Nazi groups (even for, say, important research purposes™), as you might inadvertently fund them via ad revenue that you can't blcok 06:44:20 *block 06:44:21 So... 06:44:57 [obviously this isn't REALLY what would happen, but you could still use it as a vector to get a case in assuming German law behaves in the slightest like US law) 06:45:12 i highly doubt that looking at an ad counts as funding 06:45:16 hppavilion[1]: it's the advertiser that funds, not the visitor hth 06:46:11 also, in germany we actually have laws to follow, not this "there was a similar case somewhere else" stuff 06:46:35 Wait so hppavillion[1] Isn't a nazi 06:46:37 oerjan: Oh, true 06:46:41 that's good to know 06:46:42 Perenelle: One l 06:46:50 Perenelle: No, I just *really* look like one 06:46:50 You are?!? 06:46:55 WOT 06:47:02 wat 06:47:03 I'm so confuses 06:47:07 Confused * 06:47:08 Perenelle: In my name. One 'l' in 'hppavilion[1]' 06:47:15 Oh 06:47:42 The color I have you randomly listed as is neon green on a black background 06:47:50 The letters kinda fuse 06:48:04 Perenelle: Oh, that setup sounds useful 06:48:24 Its pretty good 06:48:39 * hppavilion[1] *may* have taught his younger sister how to do a Nazi salute, and she *may* do it on command when she hears "Sieg heil!" 06:48:47 Fam 06:49:10 why? 06:49:31 that's like the most stupid thing i heard from you 06:49:39 Perenelle: What is "fam"? 06:49:45 myname: ...theatre purposes? 06:50:00 You need to do the Nazi salute in certain Sound of Music roles ips 06:50:02 short for family 06:50:07 Oh..? 06:50:34 It's commonly used to be like 'fam don't be stupid' 06:50:45 I have literally never heard this 06:51:55 My terminal/computer/which had a cord connecting to my onsite server. R.I.P fell off my desk today because of my God damn cat 06:55:40 You've never heard of it 06:55:42 Ever 06:55:44 Wot 06:56:17 Hppavilion[1] how do you look like a nazi 06:56:25 Perenelle: Scroll up 06:56:43 To the /me 06:56:46 I joined after such 06:56:50 No 06:56:52 You didn't 06:57:00 Ohthat 06:57:41 I also frequently draw swatikæ, but that's just because the form itself is awesome. Fuckin' Nazis made it all Nazy... can't have anything nice... 06:57:41 That makes you read like a middle Schooler from America that thinks the Holocaust was funny 06:57:41 Not a nazi 06:57:45 *grumble grumble* 06:58:00 Perenelle: I think I might have been at the time? 06:58:08 I don't remember. It was a while ago. 06:58:18 I don't *think* I ever sucked that much 06:58:19 You mean the Buddhist symbol for peace 06:58:26 'Sucked' 06:58:32 Emphasis 06:58:41 I have to admit that the nazis kinda lucked out on symbol lottery 06:58:45 swastika 06:58:59 Perenelle: It's just the generic symbol, really. Not associated with anything in my mind 06:59:06 Succ 06:59:18 sorry for my dirty reading into 06:59:22 due to the rotational symetry etc 07:00:15 You'd have thought Hitler would have just rounded all the Jews or people he hated into a big cave underground and thrown some bombs in 07:00:21 people like stuff that's rotationally symmetric but not reflectively symmetric... just cause it looks cool 07:00:36 But he had all these camps 07:00:36 But lets digress 07:00:37 Perenelle: And to be fair, when I think "Nazis", I honestly think Enigma and incredibly engineering before Auschwitz 07:00:38 Perenelle : he didn't have time 07:00:39 Away from tuis 07:00:53 This 07:01:14 jews were just the start, he had a good 50+ million slavs to kill after that 07:01:25 The Nazis were good at everything except human rights afaict 07:01:31 A programming language that runs by using different names of nazi officers as the integers and calling commands 07:01:56 As far as I can tell?? 07:02:00 Boi 07:02:00 mad: You know, Hitler actually had rather severe ADHD as a child, and it made school *incredibly* difficult for him. 07:02:14 He was a good artist 07:02:18 Perenelle: Eh. 07:02:33 Too bad he went blind from hysteria and went apeshit 07:02:42 Perenelle: Wait, when did he go blind? 07:02:46 Temporary blindness 07:02:47 Was it non-permanent? 07:02:48 Ah 07:02:48 Perenelle: actually, i know people who are trying to build something like that 07:02:56 * hppavilion[1] must finish his pun 07:02:58 hppavilion[1]: Some Nazi military strategy was decent. Hitler went out of his way to fuck it up, however. 07:03:04 Ofc you do myname 07:03:11 pikhq: Yeah 07:03:17 Not saying anything about you of course 07:03:29 But why do you know people like that 07:03:50 I try and stay away from toxic nazis 07:03:57 There's actually quite a lot in the Nazi regime that was a royal clusterfuck outside of human rights, TBH. 07:04:03 But living in Toledo its quite hard 07:04:11 because computer scientists oftentimes have a strange kind of humor 07:04:21 Perenelle: Yeah, same here; only free-range grass-fed nazis for me! 07:04:23 Which you might expect from a government ran as a literal dictatorship. 07:04:24 The only thing that came out of ww2 was bdsm 07:04:40 huh? 07:04:43 how so 07:04:45 Just look at how sexual Germany is now 07:04:52 Perenelle: ...I think we had BDSM before WWII 07:04:58 Before that it was a very modest place 07:05:02 What is the safeword of #esoteric? 07:05:09 totalitarian states always get messed up. because people don't believe in the real world in those. 07:05:13 Not as rough as it is now though 07:05:16 Perenelle: *everywhere* was very modest in the 19<40s 07:05:30 that's how communists messed up and killed dozens of millions 07:05:33 Las Vegas wasn't 07:05:33 just because you don't see how many people do bdsm it does not mean people are modest 07:05:40 what about "spring awakening"? 07:05:46 *sigh* You know, Hitler actually had rather severe ADHD as a child, and it made school *incredibly* difficult for him. 07:05:49 mad: Hooray, this makes me so happy about the future. 07:06:00 I have nothing against bdsm you do you 07:06:11 sorry, I cannot bring you comfort if you're in the US :o 07:06:14 When he grew up and came to power, he built special concentration camps to help people in a similar predicament 07:06:24 just don't do it publicly 07:06:29 Or do w/e 07:06:43 Perenelle: Well, unless you're into that, and only specific types of public 07:06:47 Perenelle: w/e? 07:06:53 Ohboy 07:06:53 Perenelle: saying ww2 lead to bdsm is like saying it lead to computers 07:07:00 What ever 07:07:03 there were barely any computers around before 07:07:03 Ah 07:07:04 I think germany was not particularly modest compared to other places https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Awakening_%28play%29 07:07:12 mad: The main thing I have that's comforting is that being LGBT and from a state oppressing you for it... is valid justification for refugee status in Canada. 07:07:30 Ok well maybe Germany is just very sexual 07:07:51 The main food is sausage and potatoes if I recall 07:08:25 Perenelle: it's not very sexual, it just isn't as screwed up as america 07:08:51 You're right 07:09:00 where it is perfectly fine to look at people getting brutally murdered, but a fraction of a second with a nipple is a big scandal 07:09:44 Lets go back to the days where watching gore on international tele and newspaper was considered moral 07:10:13 "Georg fantasizes about his busty piano instructor, Frau Grossebustenhalter" 07:10:13 US really needs a political reform, but considering the current state of things, that's gonna take decades 07:10:33 Grossebustenhalter 07:10:34 Is... is "busty" really a Wikipædial word? 07:10:42 Perenelle: Grosse is "large" 07:11:10 Gotta go sleep have work tommorow Zzzzz 07:11:16 -!- Perenelle has quit (Quit: Bye). 07:11:16 i don't really get the public morality standards of US 07:12:54 myname: How so? 07:13:37 look at my previous sentence 07:15:07 myname: Ah, I see 07:15:31 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 07:16:16 myname: We americans don't see how you can have a man's naked ass in a PG movie, even if it's a non-sexual joke, or why you freak out over any amount of violence :P 07:17:06 myname : my pet theory: a bunch of christians are really worried at losing their culture. anything that reminds them that they're on the losing side of the culture war, such as titties, makes them freak out. violence doesn't have that effect. 07:17:17 mad: Well, yeah 07:17:21 caveat: I don't really understand american christians 07:18:13 hppavilion[1]: we don't freak out at every amount 07:18:14 myname: And that comparison isn't entirely fair- the difference is the fraction-of-a-second-with-a-nipple thing was the Superbowl, which is a big family thing (I hate handegg- soccer isn't much better though- and even *I* go to parties to watch the superbowl some years), so there are young children watching and when people start freaking out the children ask and the parents have to explain and on and on and on, escalating itself, etc... 07:18:54 well, i did not have any special situation in mind 07:19:22 myname: And also, the exposed nipple in the Superbowl wasn't exactly planned in advance, it was a mistake 07:19:40 People getting brutally murdered is at *least* a PG-13- R if it's sufficiently brutal- in a movie, and TV-14 or TV-MA for TV 07:19:44 the sing is, sexuality is pretty normal in comparison to violence. most parents had sex :p 07:19:53 "at least pg-13" 07:19:57 And those two can only be on TV at certain times after children have gone to bed 07:20:18 because, how should it be bad for a 13 year old to look at murder 07:20:30 myname: As a plot device? Not that bad 07:21:16 And they're all planned in advance and completely fictional- seeing even a non-brutal REAL murder on TV or in a movie would be an outrage no matter how many warnings and restriction you put on it 07:21:22 informative murder porn 07:21:46 *restriction+s 07:22:48 that would imply you take it for granted that every child knows that difference 07:23:06 bald assumption for a land that christian 07:23:28 myname: Everyone watching a movie with murder, yeah. You'd be hard-pressed to find a 13-year-old [barring ones with severe learning disabilities] who tells you that that person actually died 07:23:32 IRL 07:23:49 myname: Also, murder is a big part of some movie plots, and I imagine it's a lot harder to vaguely specify "murder ensues" than "coitus ensues", especially if it's a plot twist 07:24:58 Like, you can get the point that sex-then-happens across from a mile away with good enough euphemisms; if a character who's been good the whole movie suddenly turns out to be evil and a mole, you have to make it *very* clear so people actually believe it. 07:25:34 So in many cases, murder is of more vital artistic value than sex and nudity. 07:40:34 "children were watching"; children love breasts. When I was two, women would go "oh you're so cute, let me pick you up" and I would go "hello breasts, nice to meet you". 07:41:37 there are very few things more child friendly than breasts 08:06:39 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 08:13:02 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF1HL335W7k 08:24:07 -!- mad has quit (Quit: Pics or it didn't happen). 09:36:19 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:44:28 -!- izalove has quit (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))). 09:44:28 -!- bibibi has quit (K-Lined). 09:45:28 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 09:48:01 -!- bibibi has joined. 09:48:30 -!- izabera1 has joined. 09:50:32 -!- izabera1 has changed nick to izalove. 10:05:20 http://leftoversalad.com/c/015_programmingpeople/ 10:58:02 -!- bibibi has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 11:34:38 -!- boily has joined. 12:17:08 fungot: you wouldn't know where I could buy potassium permanganate in bulk, eh? 12:17:09 boily: maybe i should stay with its own new-index) ( read-item input-string index)...) 12:17:24 fungot: searching your index for suppliers? 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17:39:42 eval is direct eval in the bot, js is sandboxed 17:39:44 -js for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) 17:39:45 SyntaxError: Unexpected token } 17:39:55 -js for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) for (;;) ; 17:39:57 Error: Script execution timed out. 17:39:59 Aww 17:40:02 :) 17:40:11 -js return global 17:40:11 { obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function: Buffer], | EventEmitter: [Function: EventEmitter], | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] }, | internal: { merge: [Function], apply: [Function] }, | alert: [Function] } 17:40:57 we tried to emulate the functionality we could 17:41:13 without weakening the sandbox. ^_^ 17:41:28 so everything isbuilt inside the sandbox with no external context 17:41:42 -js this.constructor.constructor("return process.exit()") 17:41:42 undefined 17:41:47 -js this.constructor.constructor("return process.exit()")() 17:41:47 Error: process.exit() is not allowed 17:41:59 hmm 17:42:03 we can simply remove that 17:42:09 we just put that there for fun 17:42:14 -js process["exit"]() 17:42:14 Error: process.exit() is not allowed 17:42:21 -js process["exit"] 17:42:22 undefined 17:42:24 but dont expect to get out :P 17:42:29 err, return it 17:42:32 Do you have source code for this? 17:42:34 -js return process["exit"] 17:42:34 [Function] 17:42:38 -js return process["exit"].constructor 17:42:39 [Function: Function] 17:42:41 -js return process["exit"].constructor() 17:42:41 [Function: anonymous] 17:42:44 -js return process["exit"].constructor()() 17:42:44 undefined 17:42:47 u can have core.js, but not the sandbox itself 17:42:47 -js process["exit"].constructor()() 17:42:47 undefined 17:42:50 -js process["exit"].constructor() 17:42:50 undefined 17:43:08 moony: Security through obscurity? 17:43:16 pretty much 17:43:31