< 1482278608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482278721 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482278753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hi rdococ! < 1482278757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't see you here < 1482278793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds "hppa" to dingables < 1482278863 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppa gangnam style < 1482278892 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1482278894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I no longer love you < 1482278902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ich liebe \oren\ nicht < 1482278909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just had his German final < 1482279786 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, here's a thought experiment < 1482279808 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a fuzzy logic system, in which two variables, x and y, are both at 50%. < 1482279832 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, x & !x should be 0%, right? even if the quantum probability did collapse, it can only be one or the other, not both. < 1482279855 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since x and y aren't related, their combined probability is 25%. < 1482279885 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hppa? any thoughts? < 1482280023 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: ...I don't think this is quantum, this is just normal probability < 1482280046 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah you're probably right. < 1482280063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Look up "probability amplitude" for funly quantumerific stuff < 1482280071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: And fuzzy logic isn't necessarily probabilistic, it's just based on degree-of-trueness < 1482280141 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... also true. < 1482280149 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the idea still stands < 1482280163 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is funly a word? < 1482280203 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1482280270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Depends on who gets to decide < 1482281075 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, wikipedia is the worst thing ever for learning (I had to find a demonstration website for quaternions... then I finally got them) < 1482281528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I wouldn't say it's the worst thing ever for learning < 1482281532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Censorship is probably worse < 1482281686 0 :tswett_!~tswett@70-88-106-41-hubbs-and-hubbs-plc-mi.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482281914 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly mapoles hppavilion[1] because I haven't mapoled anybody in a while < 1482281931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly dodges < 1482282152 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, anyone here affected by DropBox decision? < 1482282217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: What decision? < 1482282225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I need to delete my account (which has nothing really in it)? < 1482282247 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the decision to drop the ball on their Public Folders < 1482282291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1482282310 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking links on the web left and right < 1482282432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Did they do it without warning? < 1482282455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1061 < 1482282460 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about adding rewriting feature in BBforum software so that any directly linked image hosted by a DropBox Public Folder < 1482282468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1061: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1482282471 0 :tswett_!~tswett@70-88-106-41-hubbs-and-hubbs-plc-mi.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaand DNS somehow isn't working. < 1482282481 0 :tswett_!~tswett@70-88-106-41-hubbs-and-hubbs-plc-mi.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seems to tend to happen when I'm using certain public wiffies. < 1482282510 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well people have to until end of March in 2017 but who is really going to go and notify all forums and people they have shared public folder links with? < 1482282527 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking news: dropbox reaffirms that it is not a web hosting provider < 1482282567 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: breaking news, dropbox performs an bait and switch manouver over decades timescale < 1482282736 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite impressive, given that they have been around for under a decade < 1482282817 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: clearly you should use Public DNS with public wifi < 1482283089 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. thachaf. < 1482283123 0 :tswett_!~tswett@70-88-106-41-hubbs-and-hubbs-plc-mi.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1482283219 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fGwanAJk8c < 1482283253 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482283832 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: "over decades timescale" is just my indication of the size of the timescale 'unit' in this context, nothing more. < 1482284895 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1482285240 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482285522 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482285555 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1482285575 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloo. < 1482285756 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: PIXEL CHICKEN < 1482285999 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-erceemgfgfvunvyn QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1482287846 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482288012 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-fhdafyxjfqxffcjv JOIN :#esoteric < 1482288262 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1482288629 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am stuffed < 1482288691 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate a giant platter of wienerschnitzel, bread and fried sausages < 1482288716 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to lie down and digest this meal < 1482289306 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482289410 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482290057 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482291650 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some difficulty to understand any colour quantization algorithms, a bit < 1482291693 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I would hope that my program it can support generating a palette even if some entries are fixed, and later to also add support for HAM and EHB modes. < 1482293930 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482294128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1482294904 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Thoga31 5* 10New user account < 1482295463 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482295661 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482295699 0 :_rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482295830 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1482296360 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482296391 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482296617 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482296657 0 :_rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482296714 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482296724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50547&oldid=50522 5* 03Thoga31 5* (+265) 10/* Introductions */ < 1482296736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Morsefuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50548 5* 03Thoga31 5* (+1260) 10Created page with "'''Morsefuck''' is an esoteric language completely based on Brainfuck. It is inspired by the obfuscation created by this language, but taking it even further. It was created o..." < 1482296794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50549&oldid=50333 5* 03Thoga31 5* (+16) 10/* Brainfuck derivatives */ < 1482297029 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482297366 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve of this- wait, no < 1482297402 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I've been too subtle. I'm taking a more extreme approach. < 1482297434 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482297483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Morsefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50550&oldid=50548 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+105) 10It's dark times we're living in. Dark times indeed. < 1482297490 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1482297494 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ_: hellu < 1482297565 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482297580 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Shall I initialize the Brainfuck Ghetto? < 1482297650 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoga31: Oh, didn't notice you joined the channel. < 1482297679 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello :) < 1482297695 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoga31: I'm hppavilion[0], current chief of bf derivative control < 1482297709 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I'm not hppavilion[0] < 1482297709 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem, I already seen the page. I'm sorry, in fact I dind't read it. < 1482297711 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One moment < 1482297714 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1482297715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1482297732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been considering with other members of this channel creating a dedicated page for minor derivations < 1482297753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there are *so* many derivatives that, if you click "Random Page", you statistically wind up in a derivative about half the time < 1482297767 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't wnat to cause any "trouble"; so to speak :) < 1482297769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[not actually statistical. Just pidooma] < 1482297774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1482297785 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I delete the page? < 1482297791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you can < 1482297831 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Morsefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50551&oldid=50550 5* 03Thoga31 5* (-1365) 10Blanked the page < 1482297838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Morsefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50552&oldid=50551 5* 03Thoga31 5* (+1365) 10 < 1482297846 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I can't :) < 1482297927 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just created this for fun, in fact. A friend of mine challanged me to implement a brainfuck interpreter in Free Pascal and Python, and on the way I "created" this < 1482298007 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1482298028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoga31: Does it support []s properly? < 1482298047 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it does < 1482298053 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482298130 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: My interpreter runs the Towers of Hanoi program by Clifford Wolf (though a bit slow). It uses LOTS of []s < 1482298138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, good. < 1482298930 0 :thoga31!53dff125@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.223.241.37 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1482299734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Derivative Ghetto14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50553 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+4418) 10The Final Solution < 1482299837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :May God have mercy on my soul. < 1482300182 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, fair 'nough. I've literally written Brainfuck interpreters out of sheer boredom before... < 1482300202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about derivatives? < 1482300222 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't really touch the stuff. < 1482301472 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing to write if you intend to write computer program but do not know what to write is you try to contribute to stuff such as my Farbfeld Utilities and so on. < 1482301969 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a possibility, although there is also many other possibility, such as to make an experiment < 1482303164 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482303289 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vco2UhQMX8 < 1482303294 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482303311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't delete pages either < 1482303397 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1482305254 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could create a mediawiki template to generate articles for brainfuck derivatives < 1482305385 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and, after that, a template for trivial stack languages < 1482307295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482308165 0 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1482308166 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1482308629 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482309039 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:60d3:51e9:a25c:2da3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482309152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH HPPAVILION[1] LA'SKA WGAH'NAGL FHTAGN < 1482309171 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482310248 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1482310595 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nkanophzavugrgcv PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This esoteric programming language has been encoded in the MediaWiki templates within this wiki. To use it, simply create a page in the following sandbox..." < 1482311797 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482311848 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-onisvpnztrckfyar QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1482311896 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! olist pinged me < 1482312508 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:60d3:51e9:a25c:2da3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482312550 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:60d3:51e9:a25c:2da3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482312841 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:60d3:51e9:a25c:2da3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1482313072 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482314012 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Malbranche14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50554&oldid=49699 5* 03Malbranche 5* (+1) 10 < 1482314198 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482314323 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1482314621 0 :Yurume|q!~yurume@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1482314693 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482314697 0 :Yurume|q!~yurume@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482314710 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a857:c192:301b:e439 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482314738 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a857:c192:301b:e439 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482314843 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482315535 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++: the real brain fuck < 1482316326 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, something called std::rel_ops has been in the standard for two decades, but does not work properly because of how the language's scoping rules are defined < 1482316442 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, unlike template export, it hasn't been removed < 1482317094 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482318290 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? std::rel_ops doesn't work? < 1482318612 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482318839 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1482319550 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1482319812 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482319895 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482321324 0 :_rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482321359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1482321505 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482321983 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://underhanded.rs/blog/2016/12/15/underhanded-rust.en-US.html " < 1482321985 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Rust Community Team is pleased to announce the first annual Underhanded Rust Contest, inspired by the Underhanded C and Underhanded Crypto contests. " < 1482322694 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it doesn't work indirectly, for example std::greater won't look up rel_ops::operator> < 1482322795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I beleive the supposed way to use rel_ops is that you put a class into a separate namespace, define operator< and operator== for that class as nm functions in that namespace, and using the other operators from rel_ops into that namespace. < 1482322816 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then when code tries to compare objects of that class, it will find it through ADL lookup. < 1482322832 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That applies even to greater, because greater will find the operators with ADL lookup too. < 1482322864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in practice the whole thing isn't too useful, because in most code you just call < and == operators anyway, the other operators aren't necessary. < 1482323344 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your search - site:rust-lang.org ADL - did not match any documents. < 1482323503 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:2098:f06a:a394:1aa6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482323546 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:2098:f06a:a394:1aa6 QUIT :Client Quit < 1482323650 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I can't even get g++ to look up rel_ops::operator> automatically < 1482323746 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482323792 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the contest is for a buggy payment processor? if this was a mainstream language, people would just submit their actual systems < 1482323963 0 :_rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1482324208 0 :Guest54317!?@? NICK :Gregor < 1482324214 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1482324225 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ node-v7.2.1-linux-x64 \ node-v7.2.1-linux-x64.tar.xz \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test1 \ test2 \ tmflry \ tmp \ wdiff-latest.tar.gz \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1482324241 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It only took me months, but I did click two buttons ;) < 1482324249 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should have the changes merged in. < 1482324527 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was something about reverse lookups too? hmm. something about emails from the wiki. < 1482324560 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course right now that point seems rather moot: Host 242.166.248.162.in-addr.arpa not found: 2(SERVFAIL) < 1482324602 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: node, seriously? < 1482325234 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wmzghxotospqfave QUIT :Excess Flood < 1482325249 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: For the future, would you mind if I add my fork as another URL and pull the commits from there, or do you want them to go through your review? < 1482325316 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you have root access on that machine? Why not just use your own fork. < 1482325326 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's what you just asked X-D < 1482325328 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, do that. < 1482325332 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't trust me, I'm a lazy shit. < 1482325353 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just give fizzie the CaC credentials :P < 1482325400 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hcuzyfgzdpmdmdkm JOIN :#esoteric < 1482325431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't even know whether that's possible on the level of a single VM, hmm) < 1482325867 0 :_rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482326096 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482326452 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482326630 0 :_rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1482326777 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482326850 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482327475 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Derivative Ghetto14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50555&oldid=50553 5* 03Enoua5 5* (+1) 10Fixed broken tag < 1482327683 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1482327697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, Gregor! < 1482327769 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Gregor < 1482327769 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Gregor is Wed Dec 21 08:42:49 < 1482327798 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1482327880 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (I don't even know whether that's possible on the level of a single VM, hmm) < 1482327894 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe through the API? < 1482327918 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, looks like it's all per-account. < 1482328388 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity. < 1482329453 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482330136 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just used the wrong lanuage, ADL originates in C++. < 1482330196 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps ironically, "Koenig lookup" would have helped me more. < 1482330758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"originates"? does any language other than C++ even has it? < 1482330810 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know all programming languages. I'd imagine that D uses it as well. < 1482330841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh... ok < 1482331237 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482331940 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482332804 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1482333014 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482333370 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482333399 0 :nycs!?@? NICK :`^_^v < 1482334321 0 :puckipedia!puck@puckipedia.com QUIT :Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:decryption failed or bad record mac < 1482334370 0 :puckipedia!puck@puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482334796 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482334952 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482335094 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482335133 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:1:7071:4bda:226:f84e JOIN :#esoteric < 1482335141 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482335579 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1482335591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdoom//Wisdoom is realizing just too late how you could have avoided your demise. < 1482335957 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482335977 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482336051 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mgxwvrgrogkhzlhb JOIN :#esoteric < 1482336160 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482336425 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482336449 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482336714 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482338113 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482338278 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuzzy logic is more than having a percentage... < 1482338290 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :take x and y to be fuzzy logic values, both 50% each < 1482338306 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, x & !x = 0%, while x & y = 25%... < 1482338836 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdhellococ. fuzzy "x & y" is akin to min(x, y), so if "x = 0.5", then "x & !x = 0.5". < 1482339217 0 :TieSoul_!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:1:7071:4bda:226:f84e JOIN :#esoteric < 1482339357 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:1:7071:4bda:226:f84e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482340137 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if payment processing systems are still written in COBOL < 1482340292 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there exists a gcc compiler of COBOL < 1482340352 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's written in Lisp? ??? < 1482340606 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are neural nets kind of like fuzzy logic with a non-linear thresholding func? < 1482340630 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482340704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: each neuron, maybe, but the capabilities of a network depend highly on how they are trained and their topology < 1482340743 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482340815 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, they're not programmed a priori (other than topology).. duh.. my bad < 1482340831 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what if you had a statically programmed fuzzy logic system with a non-linear trigger func? < 1482340840 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that be a lot diff than a standard fuzzy logic system? < 1482341139 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482341459 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. COBOL in LISP??? < 1482341530 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newshellom. well, not much different. if you're chaining sigmoids (the canonical non-linear curve for perceptrons), you're approximating higher-degree polynomials. < 1482341572 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of a single monotonic slope, you're freeing yourself to random curves. < 1482341710 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you linear? < 1482341710 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it promotes a specific type of software engineering.... hold on, a bit < 1482341716 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: holding on... < 1482341717 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( or even " the current solution" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord? is especially ugly without infix". that phrase is < 1482341736 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please balance your parentheses. ) < 1482341737 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: now opening: fnord fnord. both are enormously fun. next time, or compile and install chicken eggs. even simple things like ' make i-know-what-i-am-doing' aren't supported yet.) < 1482341763 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnord Fnord Fun for All! < 1482341801 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohelloc < 1482341818 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant probability to be honest < 1482341821 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not actual fuzzy logic < 1482341870 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"x & !x = 0.5" makes sense, it's kinda like "is the glass less than half full AND less than half empty?" < 1482341888 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much as that makes sense... < 1482341919 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about something more probabilistic - the chance of both x happening AND x not happening is 0% < 1482341948 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the case. < 1482341999 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :this suggests to me that x is not equal to !x, even if both are 50% probable. < 1482342051 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you could have two variables who cannot both be true at once, so the result of their AND operation is 0%, but two other variables which are always true at once, and they have 50% together... < 1482342141 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probability value alone is not enough to determine the value of a probabilistic variable. < 1482342234 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could define them as expressions in terms of one or more pure probability variables < 1482342270 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :say a is a probabilistic number which could collapse into any real number between 0 and 1. < 1482342284 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :some variable x could be defined as the expression a < 0.5 < 1482342301 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :then !x would mean a >= 0.5 < 1482342336 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!x is infinitesimally more probable than x, but x & !x is definitely impossible. < 1482342373 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :then an unrelated variable y might be equal to something like B < 0.5... and x&y is 25% probable. < 1482343179 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1482343648 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mgxwvrgrogkhzlhb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1482344407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1482344609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe can be do like quantum states can be written as entangled too < 1482344746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay Gregor < 1482344765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1482344775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Testing is missing < 1482344798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'testing': Testing is missing < 1482344802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1482344804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1482344809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee!! < 1482344815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? testing < 1482344816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1482344825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that should also test the other < 1482344864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk test//hi again < 1482344866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor < 1482344868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1482344871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? testing < 1482344872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1482344890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS < 1482344910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1482344911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1482344925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1482344937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test//hi again < 1482344947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1482344948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: test: No such file or directory < 1482344960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :STILL WORKS < 1482344975 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1482345046 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38, hellørjan, helloochaf. < 1482345054 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is alive?!??!!? < 1482345063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and accepting PRs! < 1482345068 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun dun ♪ < 1482345080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he was alive 4 hours ago. it may be months until next time. < 1482345138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bhelloily) < 1482345158 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482345160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch requests < 1482345186 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochpoochpoochpooch ♪ < 1482345210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( avoiding words starting with p may be a bit too awkward ) < 1482345229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. awkward < 1482345259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1482345261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ node-v7.2.1-linux-x64 \ node-v7.2.1-linux-x64.tar.xz \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test1 \ test2 \ tmflry \ tmp \ wdiff-latest.tar.gz \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1482345276 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom.pdf < 1482345281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1482345289 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r node* < 1482345296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1482345314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was an attempt to install node that failed because node has files larger than HackEgo's limit < 1482345339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i think this has happened before) < 1482345347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastfiles < 1482345351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :node-v7.2.1-linux-x64.tar.xz < 1482345379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lastfiles < 1482345380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed -l 1 --template "{files}\n" -- "$@" < 1482345400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1482345402 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test1 \ test2 \ tmflry \ tmp \ wdiff-latest.tar.gz \ wisdom < 1482345428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, the directory probably never got any files because of the unpacking failing < 1482346822 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm not alive, stop imagining I'm alive. < 1482346891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1482346924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I was at a talk where someone mentioned a paper you were a coauthor of. < 1482346929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that was a while ago by now. < 1482347017 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote No, I'm not alive, stop imagining I'm alive. < 1482347028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1302) No, I'm not alive, stop imagining I'm alive. < 1482347364 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, there exist papers I write ;) < 1482347429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck Derivative Ghetto14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50556 5* 03GermanyBoy 5* (+3158) 10/* I'm worried about this, please stop */ new section < 1482347465 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hcuzyfgzdpmdmdkm QUIT :Excess Flood < 1482347481 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-npmdjsdiplsgngdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1482348148 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482348401 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1482348408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1482348737 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nkanophzavugrgcv PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's where my cakes went. < 1482348790 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as he doesn't take all the fternooners, I'm fine with it. < 1482349080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1482349390 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482349564 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote on paper once. I hated it, and switched back to writing on computers as soon as I could. < 1482349908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck Derivative Ghetto14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50557&oldid=50556 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+217) 10 < 1482350175 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1482350373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482350640 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482350664 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482350760 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482350784 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482350820 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482350843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482351122 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about drawing diagrams? < 1482351420 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482351447 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482351455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *cough* < 1482351486 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can wrote both on the paper and also on the computer < 1482351540 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482351565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482351605 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482351625 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482351662 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1482351746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :Phantom_Hoover!*@*$#fix_your_connection < 1482351766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1482351842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482352410 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482352574 0 :emg!~emg@74-123-189-254.static.wiline.com QUIT :Quit: emg < 1482353004 0 :TieSoul_!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:1:7071:4bda:226:f84e QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1482354030 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482354053 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482354353 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1482354379 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482354413 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1482354415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SumaMoito14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50558&oldid=43821 5* 03Atrapado 5* (-312) 10remove broken link < 1482355021 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482355486 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1482355759 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1482355765 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned the hard way that having a broken bouncing client is annoying to deal with.. < 1482355777 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482355832 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482356120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482357551 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482357569 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1482357589 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482357760 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit of a programming question for y'all: how do you do progress bars? < 1482357794 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1482358007 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it the progress of? < 1482358013 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :▏ ▎ ▍ ▌ ▋ ▊ ▉ █ hth < 1482358069 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: lets say file download for simplicity < 1482358100 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the file size is known at the start of the download. < 1482358157 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can multiply downloaded size by the size of the progress bar and divide by the total size of the file, and then you can fill that much of the bar. You can then add text for file size and estimated time. < 1482358193 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork the program into two processes and communicate through pv < 1482358286 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: now lets say it is for level loading in a game. The amount of stuff in the level is known at the begining. Same general method? < 1482358347 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes, although there will be a few differences. < 1482358528 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game anyways? < 1482358765 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :any game that has levels and loads each fully. (Too fast paced for continous loading) < 1482358851 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually the similar thing will work < 1482358944 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for something like loading several files, you'll want to estimate how long it takes for one file (maybe using its size as proxy) and divide into chunks based on that < 1482359040 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: most level files use arrays of structures (with internal pointers, this is usually laid out or intrepreted) and you use the array sizes or such. < 1482359072 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well sure, most files in general use lots of arrays of structures :P < 1482359079 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the ones I've looked at < 1482359090 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I haven't looked at too many level file formats < 1482359182 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrwdxxfxhmxvlffy JOIN :#esoteric < 1482359601 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the game, it might or might not be that simple. < 1482359605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1482359691 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a pessimistic estimate of total is good enough, no? < 1482359731 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a simple estimate if you have to; that will also work < 1482359987 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file may be compressed (as was probably the case with some earlier games), and decompression time would also have to be taken into account < 1482360104 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482360412 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages have conditionals like if, and loops like while < 1482360416 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about when? < 1482360426 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :when (something) { something else } < 1482360441 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka events < 1482360480 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"earlier games"? < 1482360488 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much all games compress data files < 1482360514 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :most develeopers seem to enjoy inventing their own compression and archive formats for reasons that I haven't understood < 1482360544 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... < 1482360550 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking that myself tbh < 1482360555 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many different kind of compression that may be used, although sometimes the compression isn't very good; the compression MegaZeux uses is not so good but I have made up a better compression for MegaZeux < 1482360637 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and estimated time... < 1482360667 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :estimated time is definitely not very accurate by - we can't tell the future without something ridiculous or fictional. < 1482360679 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculous being impossible. < 1482360690 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Famicom game I made up called "Attribute Zone" loads/saves uncompressed levels on tape, although ROM levels are compressed with Huffman and RLE. < 1482360803 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, RLE only applies to some kind of tiles and not to all kind of tiles. Also it uses a single Huffman tree for all levels, although it is recomputed and recompiled into 6502 code whenever levels are added or changed. < 1482360832 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ_: You can just avoid estimated time if you need to I suppose < 1482360895 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've entertained the possibility of a world where games are "told" like stories over the telephone, then telephone operators would be the gamemaster for the player < 1482360939 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so over-the-phone tabletop RPG+ < 1482360942 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :?* < 1482360942 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1482360944 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1482360945 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ_: re "when" well Monte has when but it is more like .then() used in promises (though you can let it wait for many promises to resolve) < 1482360979 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also entertained the idea of a "else" function used on its own without the if preceding it, and what it would do < 1482361007 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ_: then there is the when construct one can make easily in Tcl/Ttk. That just checks and rechecks every time the even loop is idle. < 1482361036 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I imagined when (event) {} as a way to listen for events < 1482361040 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :youbetterdothis-orelse! { stuff } < 1482361093 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it this way - each program is composed of some variable and event declarations, and then a bunch of [when] constructs. user interaction would involve executing an available subset of all the events. < 1482361102 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :while () { } else { } < 1482361173 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :when () { } < 1482361182 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1482361200 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I created a mock-up of how my when idea would work in notepad++ < 1482361210 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ_: sound like both like Jule and event loop based programming. < 1482361214 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the user defined language feature < 1482361220 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no loop to it though < 1482361402 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, usually there is only one event loop that is running constantly after program initialization, and it just gathers events and dispatches them to the whatever is waiting for them. < 1482361419 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program in my language would be called a machine, and it would be composed of variable/event declarations - along with the "user" modifier for events that the user can activate - and then listeners for each event that are added to some sort of register and are executed when the event is fired. no need for loops. < 1482361485 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :register being a real world metaphor for check-in and check-out registers that hotels and schools employ. < 1482361489 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically state machines? < 1482361520 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah. < 1482361532 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name event loop programming is just an artifact on how such event systems were first implemented. < 1482361540 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you are basically describing such. < 1482361549 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay... < 1482361584 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do go on because you might discover something overlooked by others that have done stuff in this part of the noosphere < 1482361773 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, it's easier to use than an actual fsm. < 1482361773 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsm being an abbreviation for finite state machine. and easier to use meaning more ease of programming. < 1482361773 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have a HP variable, then an enemy attack script check if your HP <= 0 directly. < 1482361849 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I guess < 1482361872 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb need loo < 1482361933 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1482362004 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482362042 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1482362053 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, during my toilet break I realized that my language isn't a finite state machine. < 1482362086 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, you can do math on the variables. < 1482362134 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can do this: < 1482362179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ_: What about me?? < 1482362198 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :when (leftBracket) { brackets += 1 }; when (rightBracket) { brackets -= 1; if (brackets < 0) { /* uh oh, right bracket where it shouldn't be */ } } < 1482362303 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you're the second item of an array, how are you a language? < 1482362304 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1482362322 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, where you live, languages are first class objects (which is well possible) < 1482362537 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482362645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ_: (1) The arrays are indexed from 4 here (2) I was joking about the HP variable (3) WELL THEY ARE NOW < 1482362799 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1482362912 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482363057 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482363069 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482363077 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482363235 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482363348 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482363542 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric