00:16:02 -!- kiki` has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 00:40:46 Yay! 00:40:47 I just added a protocol lookup to my portscanner! 00:42:26 yay! 00:42:35 and now I must make another terrible esolang idea! 00:43:02 a language where something or other! 00:43:10 okay, how about this 00:44:41 a language which starts out with only a string literal 00:44:52 and then you must define booleans and stuff from it 00:44:53 e.g. 00:45:12 nvm 00:47:35 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 00:47:36 lol this was a bad idea 00:48:56 Yay! 00:50:03 ?moon| 00:50:03 Unknown command, try @list 00:50:09 |moon? 00:50:26 -!- hppavilion[0] has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:53:22 what 00:53:42 whomsoever 00:54:14 we need a who conditional now 00:54:23 -!- loonysloot has changed nick to floofyhoof. 00:54:25 whoever? whatsoever? whatever 00:54:42 whichnever 00:55:00 never let x = 3 00:55:43 event programming yay 00:56:17 always let x = 3, never let x != 3 00:56:25 constants without the keyword 00:56:39 uh 00:56:50 what about a language where every command is a banana 00:56:57 ?!?! 00:57:10 exactly! so esoteric 00:57:21 sounds like a joke language lol 00:57:24 have a look at cheese 00:57:24 @google banana scheme 00:57:25 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Banana_Scheme 00:58:14 also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCkerYMffMo 00:58:21 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Cheese 00:58:47 ahaha banana scheme 00:59:12 `wisdom 00:59:13 `wisdom 00:59:14 `wisdom 00:59:15 `wisdom 00:59:16 `wisdom 00:59:27 tasty meat 00:59:40 flagpole//A flagpole is like a tadpole, but with a flag on top. 00:59:42 can you take that topic elsewhere please 00:59:44 lkoen//LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé d'un L et s'est envolé. 00:59:46 rtf//RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. 00:59:48 rhubarb//Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb, rhubarb: rhubarb rhubarb? Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb rhubarb. 00:59:48 ent//Ents are very useful creatures for the puzzle of writing town names in Hungary as the catenation of six or more Hungarian words. Bal-a-s-s-a-gyarmat Bal-a-ton-{s-zár-szó,{rend,szem}-e-s} Egy-ház-a-s-holló-s Fel-s-ősz-ent-már-ton Jász-ár-ok-száll-á-s Ki-s-kun-{fél-egy-ház-a,hal-a-s} Rá-basz-ent-mik-ló-s Vér-te-s-sző-lő-s. 01:00:14 ? 01:00:16 I meant SPAM 01:00:47 :p 01:00:59 -!- kiki` has joined. 01:01:00 you're not funny 01:01:14 but I'm smiling so I'm funny to someone 01:01:20 -!- moony has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:02:00 no, you're at best annoying 01:02:08 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 01:02:23 how rude 01:02:33 -!- moonythedwarf has changed nick to Guest92062. 01:02:42 (you know I'm just joking around, right?) 01:02:58 -!- Guest92062 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:03:21 I don't know what you're joking around about, but whatever it is, you aren't very good at it. 01:03:44 whatever -.- 01:04:50 <\oren\> argh why is my grampa so inhumanly good at card games 01:05:08 perhaps because he is not human 01:05:13 have you checked? 01:05:39 <\oren\> part of his ancestry is, indeed, unknown 01:06:48 At what card game? 01:08:45 <\oren\> Flunn 01:09:42 <\oren\> a game apparently not playd outside northern canada 01:10:38 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 01:11:58 do you prefer !=, ~=, <> or some other syntax for inequality 01:13:43 I have used both != and <> for different program language. I think for most kinds, that != will be good. Also a few using /= 01:13:50 <\oren\> I prefer ^ 01:14:18 <\oren\> damn it it dodn't line up 01:14:23 you mean /=? 01:14:25 3 /= 2 01:14:25 <\oren\> i prefer != 01:14:28 oh 01:15:02 I'd make my language flexible if I were making it practical, and allow all four. 01:15:35 <\oren\> what about just isnt 01:15:45 "3 isnt 2" 01:15:46 <\oren\> if x isnt 2 then 01:15:51 if x is 3 then 01:16:12 feels like lua but even more wordose 01:16:21 <\oren\> would work well in a BASIC type language 01:16:33 true 01:16:41 if x is 3 then set x to 5 end 01:17:01 if x is less than 5 then set x to 6 end 01:17:19 what if "less than 5" was a number-like construct like "5" and "3" are? 01:17:20 <\oren\> more like if x lt 5 01:17:31 if x eq 5? 01:18:04 <\oren\> in perl, lt, gt, eq and neq are the string-comparison operators 01:18:20 hm 01:18:24 <\oren\> while > < == != compare numberly 01:18:31 k 01:18:35 string-comparison? 01:18:39 whatever that means 01:18:48 does it even make sense to compare strings? 01:24:17 -!- hppavilion[0] has joined. 01:27:02 <\oren\> rdococ: asciibetical order 01:28:59 It does make sense to compare strings. Usually by the ASCII codes, although with SQL it is also possible to define other collations too. 01:33:58 <\oren\> hipavilion[!] 01:54:50 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 02:06:38 -!- MDude has joined. 02:15:34 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc9LwNQr0JY 02:21:05 `danddreclist 85 02:21:10 danddreclist 85: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex 02:38:04 -!- floofyhoof has changed nick to broodycoot. 02:51:07 `wisdom 02:51:11 ethanol//Ethanol is a Group 1 carcinogenic substance since 1988. 02:54:20 How difficult would it be to make a television set that has a mode to improve the picture quality of a RF Famicom? 02:55:33 zzo38: Improve by making the picture 3D? 02:55:40 It's been done. 02:55:54 Did you see it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDxjbXAqTPg 02:56:05 I don't mean to make 3D 02:56:24 But did you see it? 02:56:25 I mean to decode it into palette indices and then reencode the picture. 02:56:39 There's also a paper at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tom7/zelda/ 02:57:58 I don't mean 3D or anything else like that, but to get rid of the bad quality induced by the RF modulator and demodulator and the NTSC decoder. 03:12:49 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc9LwNQr0JY 03:24:29 * Zarutian hands zzo38 an Nitendo multi connector with RGB RL out and possibly an SCART adapter to connect it to a telly. 03:30:30 SCART? 03:32:21 scart <3 03:42:02 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 03:45:44 don't put the scart before the scow 03:46:57 I'd hate on SCART here, but the American alternative is "go fuck yourself". 03:50:39 <\oren\> hmm, I just thought of a crazy game idea 03:51:13 <\oren\> modern kids don't get to use chemistry sets (I was the only person my age who ever had one) 03:51:48 <\oren\> so why not make a "virtual chemistry set" that uses data on real chemicals including reaction rates etc 03:52:46 pikhq: if only they had bloody specified that any newer tellys had L protrusions above and below SCART ports so one could use a rubber band to keep the damn things connected then I would have been rather less irritated 03:53:52 because invariably it would 'just fall out a bit' because someone was 'dedusting' 03:54:40 <\oren\> Zarutian: when I was in france they used tape 03:54:49 <\oren\> at least in the hotel 03:54:56 <\oren\> it still fell out though 03:55:26 <\oren\> (oh, and by 'hotel' i mean a family run bed and breakfast type thing) 03:58:24 and why didnt they specify that the two data lines were just I2C? (Though not directly connected to the devices internal I2C buses) 03:58:41 that is what HDMI at least gets right. 03:59:41 <\oren\> HDMI is annoying because it doesn't have screwholes 03:59:51 <\oren\> DVI has them at least 04:00:10 Most consumer TV connectors don't, though. 04:01:07 * boily sthwacks shachaf. 0.74 FP. 04:01:09 The only screwon connector I know of in that space is the F connector. 04:04:57 I found it rather neat that an brand of VCRs had a little TeleText generation module for manual and certain On Screen Menu stuff. The VCR didnt have any tuner though. (Relied on the pass through from the telly) 04:05:07 Frog Fractions 2 has been revealed 04:08:31 Does it control the external tuner so that it can change the channel for a programmed recording? 04:10:10 I tried to invent the way to use MIDI that can be used for this and other purposes. 04:10:53 Bit of an unusual choice, but MIDI certainly is up to the task. 04:11:14 zzo38: nope, SCART didnt allow for that (but it should have if the two data lines actually had any specified protocol for deck control) 04:12:35 Um, can't you do exactly that with AV.link on SCART? 04:12:52 ... which only helps you, granted, if the deck and the TV actualy have AV.link. 04:14:31 My specification for TVMIDI requires that the external tuner support MIDI CCs 0, 32, and 64 (although CC 0 is unneeded if there are no channel numbers higher than 127), and that it can at least parse all other MIDI messages even if it ignores them. Other commands are defined, but implementation is optional. 04:16:27 (Controls 0 and 32 change the channel, while control 64 is OSD suppress; setting it to 127 ensures that the video output displays only the TV show and no menus or anything else.) 04:18:05 I think it is good at least, do you think? 05:01:57 -!- hppavilion[0] has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 05:06:57 -!- boily has quit (Quit: PASCAL CHICKEN). 05:09:27 -!- hppavilion[0] has joined. 05:41:22 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 05:53:46 complex language. 05:53:51 3i + 2 05:57:46 The notation in http://smbc-comics.com/ annoys me 05:57:48 rdococ: ? 05:59:34 -!- hppavilion[0] has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 06:12:21 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 06:30:19 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:31:58 -!- zzo38 has joined. 06:32:33 I need inspiration 06:32:34 gimme some 06:33:05 hppavilion[1] I need isnpiration 06:33:09 isnpiration? 06:33:11 yes, isnpiration. 06:33:27 rdococ: No. It's all mine. 06:33:37 I want to create this kind of language. 06:33:41 easier and no IPA - yay 06:33:52 so... 06:34:09 any ideas? 06:34:11 tell meh 06:34:41 if I were a terrible esolanger, how would I create a good language? 06:35:22 hppavilion[1], over here 06:35:51 hppavilion[1], I said here 06:43:14 hppavilion[1] 06:43:23 you're talking in #conlang but not here :/ 06:43:29 WHAT 06:43:34 AAAH 06:43:44 I'm sorry... I... 06:43:54 I'm tired and I get weird when I'm tired 06:44:03 It's not a complete lie 06:44:11 ... 06:49:00 hm 06:49:03 esoteric logic 06:49:58 I'm sorry... again... for being a nuisance 06:59:06 what about a non-standard number type 06:59:29 -!- TunaVaruna has left ("Be back later..."). 07:00:06 -!- augur has joined. 07:00:27 What kind of non-standard number type? 07:00:28 idk for sure 07:00:39 the idea just popped into my head 07:45:11 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Quit: PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH HPPAVILION[1] LA'SKA WGAH'NAGL FHTAGN). 07:45:28 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 08:26:50 `tomfoolery @ 08:27:04 ​|a+b@| = { √(a²-b²) if a²-b² ≥ 0 ; i√(a²-b²) if a²-b² < 0 } 08:27:35 I think we found a contradiction somewhere along the line with this definition. Or maybe the if statement was to combat the definition. 08:27:48 Err, the contradiction. 08:28:40 * zgrep . o O ( Just pick a type of number that you don't find most places, and it's bound to be fairly non- standard. ) 08:31:33 * zgrep . o O ( Like numbers that can be divided by 18603444599. Those aren't common. ) 09:06:13 idk why the if conditional is there... 09:06:38 I mean I get the logic it should be √(a²-b²), but why i√(a²-b²) if a²-b² < 0? 09:56:42 Is the ring the Gaussian Integers form prime? 09:56:45 I'm asking for a friend 10:01:26 hppavilion[1], do you know why the if conditional above is there? 10:02:12 rdococ: It becomes real again that way 10:02:25 I know, but why does it have to be real? 10:02:35 OH 10:02:37 Oh. 10:02:51 so if I'm fine with |@| = i then I can remove the if conditional lol 10:03:11 rdococ: Since if a²-b² < 0, then i√(a²-b²) = i√|a²-b²|i = -√|a²-b²| 10:03:19 ik 10:03:39 rdococ: I think it just equates to swapping the positions of a and b? 10:03:52 and negating it, that's what I thought too 10:04:09 isqrt(a^2 - b^2) = -sqrt(b^2 - a^2)? 10:41:22 Oh, |@| = i? 10:41:52 * zgrep looks at the definition and thinks about it 10:42:06 (it was |@| = @ at some point, but that was proven to be not a thing that happens, right?) 10:42:12 s/happens/works/ 10:57:27 |@| = -1? 11:00:14 rdococ: Why negating it? 11:09:35 zgrep: |@| = -1 11:09:41 zgrep: |$| = i 11:09:53 `tomfoolery $ 11:10:09 zgrep: I don't think I stuck with $; I think I chose a greek letter at some point 11:10:18 I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. 11:10:28 zgrep: And sometimes I use $ψ = e^iψ 11:10:33 `? $ 11:10:38 ​$? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 11:11:57 I see. Could just use cis(ψ) :P 11:12:17 Though I guess it's not any characters shorter, is it. 11:12:53 trans(for p in `ls -R1d ./**/* | grep "class"`; do pnf=`(sed "s/\.class/.java/" <<< $p)| sed "s,^\./,,"`; pn="$PWD/disasm/$pnf"; install -D /dev/null $pn; javap -c "$p" > $pn; done) 11:12:55 Whoops 11:13:00 zgrep: trans(ψ) 11:13:55 ugh.... 11:15:02 |ψ| = i wasn't that my idea? 11:15:10 or both, perhaps 11:15:16 both of us or something 11:15:46 zgrep: sqrt(b^2 - a^2) for b>a would mean a positive number 11:17:54 rdococ: Or cryptomnesia 11:18:06 For one of us to the other 11:18:06 um? 11:18:27 (Hint: one-of-us = you) 11:18:34 ? 11:18:38 cryptomnesia? 11:18:54 what does crypto mean? 11:18:58 I forgot. 11:19:11 rdococ: Google is the enemy of your enemy 11:19:19 oh 11:19:25 must be my double enemy then 11:19:37 zgrep: sqrt(b^2 - a^2) for b>a would mean a positive number <-- Yes? 11:19:50 and |@| = -1 11:20:31 so sqrt(1-0) as swapping a and b alone would do = 1 11:20:48 Ah. 11:21:10 Maybe I shouldn't try thinking at 4-6 am. 11:21:16 -!- LKoen has joined. 11:21:26 I wonder what 2^@ would be. 11:21:47 * zgrep . o O ( @^@ ) 11:21:56 Wait... didn't we go down this road at some point? 11:22:09 probably my cryptomnesia 11:22:15 I vaguely remember something to do with trying to extend hyperoperators. 11:22:21 s/extend/use/ 11:22:24 well... 11:22:36 hyperoperation? Hyperwhatevertheyrecalled. 11:22:58 zgrep: e^@x = ??? 11:23:04 -!- IceFly has changed nick to FireFly. 11:23:06 2^@ = x -> log_2(x) = @, right? 11:23:07 zgrep: ln(a+b@) = ??? 11:23:16 FireFly: You're no longer cold, I see. 11:23:21 rdococ: yes hth 11:23:23 so all we need is ln(a+b@), or log for any base 11:23:27 hm 11:23:36 -!- hppavilion[1] has changed nick to EarthFly. 11:23:39 zgrep: are you saying I'm hot? 11:23:45 FireFly: :# 11:23:47 I can't type. 11:23:49 FireFly: :3 11:23:59 FireFly, zgrep: get a room you n ≥ 2 11:24:25 well 11:24:28 FireFly: I'm saying your on fire. 11:24:40 Technically... we're in a room. 11:24:43 2^@ = 2@? 11:24:47 zgrep: A separate room 11:24:49 rdococ: No? 11:24:54 nah 11:24:58 rdococ: You'll want to define with e, not 2 11:25:02 true 11:25:05 ln(x), e^x 11:25:07 e^@? 11:25:26 EarthFly: What would the definition for $ be, then... 11:25:29 (out of curiosity) 11:25:29 people really do make your/you're mistakes, i am surprised 11:25:55 My* surprised 11:25:57 :P 11:25:58 rdococ: e^θ@ = cosa(θ)+sina(θ)@ 11:26:01 * zgrep . o O ( Your you're own person. ) 11:26:05 cosa? 11:26:12 rdococ: Absolute Cosine?? 11:26:18 Absolute cosine? 11:26:18 rdococ: I don't know, it was bullshit madeupness 11:26:22 rdococ: WAIT! 11:26:29 ? 11:26:33 -!- EarthFly has changed nick to hppavilion1. 11:26:55 rdococ: One of the uses of complex numbers are representing rotations in 2D space 11:27:01 i only know cosa nostra 11:27:08 true 11:27:44 what would @ be used for? 11:28:09 rdococ: A point (x, y) rotated about the origin by θ is (x', y') where x'+b'i = (sin(θ)+i·cos(θ))(x+bi) 11:28:24 myname: first rule of cosa nostra is don't talk about cosa nostra 11:28:32 oook makes sense 11:28:40 wait, b? 11:28:41 rdococ: Complex numbers do nice rotations. I've been trying to figure out what split-complex numbers transform like 11:28:49 split-complex? 11:28:51 rdococ: Whoops, replace b with y 11:28:52 izabera: i read too much snow crash 11:29:18 rdococ: Split-complex numbers are a+bj, where j^2 = 1, j ≠ 1, j ≠ -1 11:29:24 k 11:29:47 okay... 11:29:50 so what's j^0.5? 11:29:53 rdococ: They're to hyperbolæ the same way complexes are to circles 11:30:02 rdococ: Not sure off the top of my head 11:30:09 Oh, so hyperbolic sine/cosine? 11:30:22 rdococ: But e^θj = cosh(θ)+j·sin(θ) 11:30:33 Only hyperbolic cosine? 11:30:42 rdococ: Whoops, sinh 11:30:46 k 11:30:55 my fingers are broken tonight 11:31:37 You know what it reminds me of? 11:31:39 rdococ: What‽ 11:31:56 relativity 11:32:19 Minkowski space to be specific. 11:32:48 to me, 1 and j rotate like x and t rotate. 11:32:55 and 1 and i rotate like x and y would. 11:33:48 what would you call it 11:34:03 well, that I guess. 11:34:25 wait 11:35:26 would that mean |j| = i? 11:35:44 no, idk 11:36:02 -!- kiki` has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 11:36:51 I think I'm talking about Lorentz boosts 11:38:59 j is to hyperbolae as i is to circle, yes? now, in Minkowski space, distance is governed by sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - t^2), yes? 11:39:46 Now, if we take that idea of - t^2 and apply it to the complex numbers, we get sqrt(r^2 + i^2 - t^2). 11:40:44 Basically, what I'm saying is that the distance formula is sqrt(x^2 - yj^2), and that |j| = sqrt(-1) = i. 11:41:09 Is any of this... making sense? 11:41:36 or have you figured this out already? 11:42:32 hello? 11:48:46 Oh, and by the way... e^x = cosh x + sinh x 11:48:51 nvm, you know that alreadu 11:48:57 I'm embarassing myself 11:58:43 "the association for computational heresy" i like 11:59:32 rdococ: e^x? You mean e^xj?? 12:00:04 e^x = cosh x + sinh x 12:00:13 nope 12:00:23 told you I was embarrassing myself 12:00:34 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:01:10 -!- augur has joined. 12:05:46 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 12:10:13 Not sure why I made this. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WOSlVQCN/%40.mov 12:24:02 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 13:12:19 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:21:52 -!- marlen has joined. 13:23:17 -!- marlen has quit (Client Quit). 13:36:21 -!- LKoen has joined. 14:01:53 -!- augur has joined. 14:06:38 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:38:40 -!- Froox has joined. 14:40:53 -!- TieSoul has joined. 14:41:46 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 14:44:51 -!- boily has joined. 14:50:00 `wisdom 14:50:16 jonathan hoag//Hoag is an art critic. 15:05:14 I assume people in here know of Pokemon Showdown? 15:05:28 How approachable is it for someone who hasn't played a real Pokemon game? 15:05:36 (I have played the card game online) 15:07:48 -!- Froox has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 15:08:06 -!- Frooxius has joined. 15:18:20 `unidecode ñ 15:18:24 ​[U+00F1 LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH TILDE] 15:34:13 izabẽllora 15:35:44 yo!ily 15:39:41 oh I like that one 15:39:47 good portmanteau 15:45:38 Dzireń Dobfly. 16:02:54 -!- augur has joined. 16:05:44 -!- boily has quit (Quit: SHIRT CHICKEN). 16:06:57 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:23:11 -!- TieSoul_ has joined. 16:27:12 -!- TieSoul has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 16:46:11 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 16:49:52 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 16:51:36 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:52:18 -!- LKoen has joined. 18:19:03 -!- augur has joined. 18:19:45 -!- ski has joined. 18:59:37 -!- TieSoul_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:01:34 -!- kiki` has joined. 19:17:36 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 19:17:52 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 19:34:12 -!- Froox has joined. 19:36:33 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 19:41:05 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:41:58 -!- augur has joined. 19:42:19 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 19:46:17 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:48:31 On some television shows I have watched I noticed that the captions are slightly different than what they say, such as "chocolate" instead of "candy" for example. Both ways make sense but they are different. Do you know why they differ? 19:52:57 a possible reason is that they copy the script, rather than listening to the actors 19:53:24 I did think of that. But why didn't the actors say what is written on the script then? 19:53:44 The shows I noticed this for were not in colour. 19:53:56 'I think it would flow better if I said "candy" instead of "chocolate"' 19:54:21 In a scene with several takes... and finally the director picks the one they think fits best 19:54:57 But it's just one possibility of many anyway, though perhaps the most plausible. 19:55:09 Dammit, Carrie Fisher died... 19:55:27 int-e: Ah, OK 19:55:45 Also possible, you listen to a whole sentence before writing it down, and mix up synonyms. Or you base it on a translation of another set of captions. Or you actually abridge the text to fit on screen. 19:56:04 -!- hppavilion1 has set topic: The international hub for Esoteric Programming | http://esolangs.org/ | RIP Carrie Fisher. She will be missed. | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | For extensive pizza testing, use #esoteric-blah. 19:56:12 :,( 19:56:14 -!- TieSoul_ has joined. 19:56:21 -!- TieSoul_ has quit (Client Quit). 20:02:47 -!- augur has joined. 20:02:49 Is there a device that can receive a picture from IEEE 1394 and captions from composite and then to output the combined signal as a composite video out? 20:15:05 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:27:09 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:44:17 -!- augur has joined. 20:48:45 -!- Froox has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 20:49:03 -!- Frooxius has joined. 20:57:24 Some of the rules of Magic: the Gathering I think I would have written differently. 20:57:25 I would have written the rule for flip a coin differently. I would have made "flip a coin" to be a keyword action meaning "choose heads or tails at random". But some effects can have the player win/lose the flip and others don't, so this can complicate it a bit; errata might fix it, but maybe there is a better way to fix it, but I don't know. 20:58:06 There are other examples too, in order to attempt to remove redundant stuff, to clarify some things, etc. 20:58:12 Do you have opinion of such thing? 20:59:36 What if a coin lands on its edge? 21:00:42 It is an invalid choice, so you must flip the coin again. 21:01:27 "Flip a coin" is meaning "choose heads or tails at random", so if you make the choice at random by flipping a coin and it lands on its edge, that choice is invalid therefore you must flip the coin again. 21:02:59 I mean, before your changes are applied. 21:03:57 It is unclear, but probably you would have to do the same thing anyways. 21:06:48 I think you should win the game. 21:07:04 -!- LKoen has joined. 21:07:28 But the rules do not say that you will win the game in such case. 21:08:32 But they don't say that you don't, either. 21:09:11 That is true, but I think it is irrelevant. 21:12:58 -!- Froox has joined. 21:13:23 -!- Froox has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:13:38 -!- Froox has joined. 21:14:58 Do the rules say that it's irrelevant? 21:17:00 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 21:17:11 `? Belgium 21:17:20 Belgium? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 21:17:33 `le/rn Belgium/The plural form of "Belgium" is "Belgia". 21:17:35 Fuck 21:17:36 All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format. 21:17:41 `le//rn Belgium/The plural form of "Belgium" is "Belgia". 21:17:42 All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format. 21:17:47 * hppavilion1 facepalms 21:17:58 `le/rn Belgium//The plural form of "Belgium" is "Belgia". 21:18:04 Learned 'belgium': The plural form of "Belgium" is "Belgia". 21:19:13 `le/rn C++ comments/C++ single-line comments use "//"; multi-line comments use "/*" "*/" 21:19:48 Are you going to confuse you? 21:24:31 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 21:25:26 -!- Froox has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 21:25:44 -!- Frooxius has joined. 21:32:57 `` hg tip 21:33:04 changeset: 10035:70889ab71789 \ tag: tip \ user: HackBot \ date: Tue Dec 27 21:17:58 2016 +0000 \ summary: le/rn Belgium//The plural form of "Belgium" is "Belgia". 21:54:22 Euclidean Distance is a metric in en–space 21:56:51 <\oren\> c++ multi line comments can also use #if 0 21:58:46 I commonly use #if 0 for disabling a block of code or for adding the compilation script 21:58:59 Rather than for comments 22:19:22 -!- puckipedia has quit (Excess Flood). 22:19:39 -!- puckipedia has joined. 22:40:37 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 22:46:47 -!- oerjan has joined. 22:54:35 -!- Zarutian has joined. 23:01:18 `? C++ comments/C++ single-line comments use " 23:01:27 C++ comments/C++ single-line comments use "? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:02:18 who needs a wisdom.for that? 23:03:28 <\oren\> `? c++ comments 23:03:30 c++ comments? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:03:39 <\oren\> `? 'c++ comments' 23:03:41 ​'c++ comments'? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:03:48 <\oren\> `` ? 'c++ comments' 23:03:51 c++ comments? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:03:52 * zgrep is assuming HackEgo didn't learn that in any way, shape, or form because of the lack of reply 23:05:23 @tell hppavilion[1] Is the ring the Gaussian Integers form prime? <-- yes, obviously hth 23:05:23 Consider it noted. 23:06:17 zgrep: good. 23:07:53 `` ls bin/? 23:07:56 bin/` \ bin/̊ \ bin/ \ bin/! \ bin/? \ bin/¿ \ bin/' \ bin/" \ bin/( \ bin/@ \ bin/* \ bin/؟ \ bin/ \ bin/ \ bin/1 \ bin/2 \ bin/5 \ bin/f \ bin/h \ bin/n \ bin/w 23:07:58 -!- boily has joined. 23:08:30 `` cd bin; echo ? 23:08:32 ​` ̊ ! ? ¿ ' " ( @ * ؟ 1 2 5 f h n w 23:08:39 Haha. 23:09:03 `url bin/? 23:09:04 i'm honestly not sure why \oren\'s line worked. 23:09:05 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/%3F 23:09:37 `echo bin/? 23:09:38 bin/? 23:09:45 `` ?= 23:09:46 `` ? 23:09:47 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: ?=: command not found 23:09:49 ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:10:01 `` echo ? 23:10:03 ​? 23:10:11 `` cd bin; echo ? 23:10:13 ​` ̊ ! ? ¿ ' " ( @ * ؟ 1 2 5 f h n w 23:10:19 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXy3SrBcWw 23:10:37 oh right 23:11:01 it worked because there aren't any single-char files in the cwd 23:11:05 <\oren\> od -c bin/\? 23:11:19 <\oren\> `` od -c bin/\? 23:11:21 0000000 # ! / b i n / b a s h \n t o p i \ 0000020 c = $ ( e c h o " $ 1 " | \ 0000040 l o w e r c a s e | s e d \ 0000060 " s / n o o \ + d l / n o o o d \ 0000100 l / ; s / * $ / / " 23:11:31 <\oren\> `` cat bin/\? 23:11:33 ​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnoooooooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | r 23:12:36 >_>oodl 23:13:15 <\oren\> `` echo noooodl 23:13:17 noooodl 23:13:18 <\oren\> `` echo noooodl 23:13:19 noooodl 23:13:24 <\oren\> `` echo nooooooodl 23:13:26 nooooooodl 23:13:38 <\oren\> `` echo nooooooodl | rnoooooooodl 23:13:40 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: rnoooooooodl: command not found 23:13:42 `` echo nooodl 23:13:43 nooooodl 23:13:45 <\oren\> `` echo nooooooodl | rnooooooooodl 23:13:46 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: rnooooooooodl: command not found 23:13:56 <\oren\> `` echo nooooooodl | rno*dl 23:13:57 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: rno*dl: command not found 23:14:07 \oren\: tip: rnooooooooodl doesn't exist 23:14:15 `cat bin/` 23:14:16 ​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl 23:14:18 also tip 23:14:28 <\oren\> `` echo nooooooodl | rnooodl 23:14:29 nooooooodl 23:14:32 <\oren\> `` echo nooooooodl | rnooodl 23:14:33 nooooooodl 23:14:38 <\oren\> `` echo nooooodl | rnooodl 23:14:39 nooooodl 23:14:49 \oren\: it only applies to three o's input 23:14:55 `cat bin/rnooodl 23:14:57 perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' 23:15:03 <\oren\> `` echo rnooodl | rnooodl 23:15:05 rnoooodl 23:15:09 <\oren\> `` echo nooodl | rnooodl 23:15:11 nooooooodl 23:15:19 `mkx bin/cat///bin/cat "$@" | rnooodl 23:15:23 hth 23:15:24 bin/cat 23:15:49 oerjan: Wait, why doesn't rnoooooodl work any any sequence of three os? 23:16:01 Kind of scow that it has to be surrounded by n and dl 23:16:18 I know people didn't like it when it was any character repeated three times. But three os? 23:17:28 `before 23:17:50 bin/cat//bin/cat: no such file in rev bd7f812be8ef 23:18:22 `cat bin/` 23:18:24 ​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooooodl 23:18:45 `revert 23:18:47 Done. 23:19:12 oerjan wants cats to be trustworthy 23:20:52 too much redundancy, especially if you change it to any three o's 23:22:14 <\oren\> oooh I found the original song 23:22:17 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gldhm5MI9ho 23:24:09 <\oren\> 聴きごたえ抜群 23:29:47 <\oren\> °ᗝ°)(°ᗜ°)(°ᗝ°)(°ᗜ°)(°ᗝ°)(°ᗜ°)(°ᗝ°)(°ᗝ°)(°ᗜ°)(°ᗝ°)(°ᗜ°)(°ᗝ°)(°ᗜ°)(°ᗝ°)(°ᗜ°)(°〇°)(°〇°) 23:30:01 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gxkt1FNL5s 23:34:16 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 23:46:35 <\oren\> more new unicode characters are coming! PREPARE YOURSELF! 23:46:38 <\oren\> http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2016/16381-n4778r-pdam1-2-charts.pdf 23:49:22 * oerjan pats /hackenv/share/UnicodeData.txt 23:49:38 WE WILL ADAPT 23:55:00 <\oren\> including hentaigana 23:56:17 <\oren\> in the Kana supplement block U+1B002-1B0FF 23:57:16 2BEB ⯫ STAR WITH RIGHT HALF BLAC 23:57:29 according to the picture, the whole right is black 23:58:04 probably fascists 23:58:09 Astrological symbols for Eris and Sedna 23:58:13 <\oren\> the copyleft symbol is in too 23:58:25 <\oren\> 1F12F 23:58:32 whoa whoa whoa 23:58:35 lots of good jams here 23:58:41 PARAGRAPHUS MARK 23:58:48 PUNCTUS ELEVATUS MARK 23:59:01 "indicates a minor medial pause where the sense is complete but the meaning is not" 23:59:06 I'm going to be using that all the time.