< 1485820899 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The machine is not answering to me. < 1485820902 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you probably jinxed it with your talk about backups. < 1485820926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame int-e for talking about CaC being crap hth < 1485821149 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1485821160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: TOO LATE < 1485821184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, toolatopia < 1485821187 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1485821193 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1485821203 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell be back < 1485821231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :please put an apostrophe in that word twh < 1485821250 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell be ba'ck < 1485821258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tw'h < 1485821275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in these times, people might actually mean it without < 1485821278 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar BIRK < 1485821279 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIRK 310000Z 08024G38KT 9999 -RA OVC035 07/02 Q0979 < 1485821285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1485821285 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 302350Z 10006KT CAVOK M03/M04 Q1019 RMK WIND 670FT 14008KT < 1485821294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Good evening, Nathan. < 1485821329 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I sound more first namey than usual < 1485821411 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what will I have told you about doing up-time-stream 'invention' of already down-time-stream 'invented' tech and items? Because I forgot. < 1485821428 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I'm about to go to bed < 1485821438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good Nighthan. < 1485821464 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apostrphes take too much time on this kb < 1485821482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1485821484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like asking me to put the accent mark in pokemon < 1485821507 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pókemon < 1485821536 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1485821541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokέmon < 1485821556 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1485821576 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pōkęmøn < 1485821605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'm pretty sure you did that quicker than i would < 1485821614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the ø < 1485821620 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no tilda over the n? < 1485821633 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ñ < 1485821650 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but slower than not at all < 1485821661 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pōkęmøñ < 1485821738 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a slavic influnced norweigan that grew up in jamica said it < 1485821834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those are not words < 1485821860 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :influenced* < 1485821913 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485821937 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ha(r|p)py now? < 1485821965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i said some, not one < 1485821996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION harps on < 1485822047 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION honestly doesnt see the others. < 1485822069 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"norweigan" and "jamica". < 1485822191 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485822207 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright s/norweigan/norvegan/ and s/jamica|jamika/ ;-Þ < 1485822229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Zarutian -----### < 1485822238 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1485822239 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 302350Z 10005KT 3600 -RADZ SCT005 BKN008 06/06 Q1013 TEMPO 5000 HZ SCT008 BKN010 < 1485822245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is neithervegetarian < 1485822259 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our weather is five kilohertz. < 1485822278 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes down "xorvegan" for future reference. < 1485822292 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that windy, eh? < 1485822323 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485822472 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sings "all the good jam comes from jam-ika, jam-ika" while thrusting shakesticks back and forth. < 1485822574 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw as I am from Iceland and Greenland I cant be supergreen like them. (Korbin Dallas!) < 1485822599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1485822610 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not from Greenland < 1485822618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still wat < 1485822619 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that < 1485822661 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not fan of the fifth, then, I see. < 1485822700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't watch that many movies < 1485822703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ed < 1485822717 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you havent seen the Fifth Element? < 1485822723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know of. < 1485822742 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wars Of The Stars? < 1485822771 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treks Across Space (and occasationally Time)? < 1485822816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, nope < 1485822830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i may have read the wikipedia plot synopsis < 1485822839 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two last are usually known by Star Wars and StarTrek. < 1485822839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then promptly forgot about it. < 1485822844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1485822880 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have at least seen Tron, the original movie? < 1485822896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe i have, at least on tv rerun < 1485822909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have also seen some star wars and some star trek. < 1485822936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only one SW movie in cinema (the empire strikes back) < 1485822963 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you are not entirely buckwheetable like some Hinerians (a reference to much loved SciFi series) < 1485822992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that firefly (haven't seen that either) < 1485823001 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1485823025 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485823027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i also saw some babylon 5 back the half year i was in the us. < 1485823152 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I am off to bed < 1485823193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: also, because you keep misspelling things, i fail to google what you mean as well < 1485823224 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :buckwheet is kind of corn plant. < 1485823234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's an a in that. < 1485823268 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :like with c I am not as sure with the difference beteen ee and ea sounds in english < 1485823328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's probably farscape. < 1485823328 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION degunks his w key < 1485823334 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :farscape it is < 1485823340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which i have not seen, and barely heard of) < 1485823403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: ee in ea sound the same afaik. they're just not spelled the same. < 1485823408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ee and ea < 1485823427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gears up for muphry hunting < 1485823491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: What should a query language for a time series database look like? < 1485823516 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, if you haddnt notic'd I write english, at least here, from how it sounds. < 1485823551 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: a dangerous method < 1485823565 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1485823594 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js "im curious why this is unbroken..." < 1485823595 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'im curious why this is unbroken...' < 1485823762 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1485825024 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄showchar 履 < 1485825024 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ U05C65 履 < 1485825024 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⠀⡯⠭⡭⢭⠭⠭⠇⠀ < 1485825024 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⠀⡗⠚⣑⢫⠭⠭⡍⠀ < 1485825026 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⠀⡗⢺⠁⠸⡭⠭⠇⠀ < 1485825029 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⢰⠃⢸⠐⣚⡯⢽⣁⠀ < 1485825089 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485825373 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pay off your credit card balance sooner", says the email from my bank, as if I would be dumb enough to keep a balance on a credit card < 1485825987 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:98d5:ab5a:5568:cd8c PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Haven't really given that too much thought. < 1485826021 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1485826052 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:98d5:ab5a:5568:cd8c PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your bill is overdue", as if I would be dumb enough to... oh shi- < 1485826208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale is a bird? < 1485826217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a legislator? < 1485827729 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485827909 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does a dog go when he loses his tail? < 1485827911 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a retail store < 1485828222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485828239 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :OA < 1485828506 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485828550 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : 21:08:53 up 5 min, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.23, 0.15 < 1485828568 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if someone did something, or if it just arbitrarily recovered itself. < 1485829116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: bridge is down hth < 1485829226 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485829424 0 :Moonythederp!4c014e9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485830955 0 :Moonythederp!4c014e9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.158 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1485831324 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d071:da41:9035:82b1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485832167 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey trump fired the acting attorney general. I guess that means they need an acting acting attorney general? < 1485832631 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485833279 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485834501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485835862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485836128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls the blissful days of early november when he thought all the trump talk would be over in a week < 1485836183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the part of me that believes in something like dialectics had doubts. < 1485836219 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-40-190.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: And the acting head of ICE. < 1485836409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trump only sees the top of the ICEberg < 1485840391 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d071:da41:9035:82b1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485841204 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teumwxedyzmeqfbm JOIN :#esoteric < 1485841382 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485844519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1485845069 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1485846037 0 :whois!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485846071 0 :whois!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this place active? < 1485846118 0 :whois!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brainfuck < 1485846125 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: brainfuck: not found < 1485846137 0 :whois!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?brainfuck < 1485846137 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?brainfuck: not found < 1485846307 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485846425 0 :whois!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1485846441 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485846472 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is brainfuck welcome here or are people sick of it? < 1485846568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language itself is fine < 1485846591 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just annoying that every other person tries and fails to make it more interesting < 1485846707 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485847012 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... you're saying verbosefuck isn't a universally praised masterpiece?! < 1485847535 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485847784 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois_: I've been threatened with a ban from the wiki < 1485847795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I am the current chief of derivative hating < 1485847805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois_: Actually, I think verbosefuck is one of the few we're OK with, sort of. < 1485847813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«https://youtu.be/BeyEGebJ1l4» raises an interesting philosophical question. It's freaking me out. < 1485847864 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually own an hp pavilion < 1485847876 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda shit < 1485847908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois_: They are < 1485847913 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485847916 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :power thing broke almost instantly, difficult to install linux on < 1485847925 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only use verbosefuck to tell people how i feel about java < 1485847948 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: fizzbuzz enterprise edition tho < 1485847961 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly. < 1485848067 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most bf derivated are just stupid substitutions or even worse useless merges < 1485848112 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody even made a mixup of hq9+ and bf, but because bf already uses the + you cannot use the + of hq9+ < 1485848118 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does not make any sense < 1485848123 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1485848533 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pavilion computers have a thinjg called secure boot < 1485848553 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that basically stops them from booting into anything but windows < 1485848564 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs to be turned off in the bios < 1485848617 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doen't display boot locations properly unless you get into it with a particular set f keypresses < 1485848810 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bios/uefi didn't want to work with GRUB either < 1485848855 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might be grub's fault < 1485849424 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also came with a bunch of preinstalled garbage iirc < 1485849885 0 :whois_!3235aed7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.53.174.215 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1485850307 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485850523 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485851538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485852246 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485852323 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485852346 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1485852353 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485852517 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1485853210 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485853276 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at it much, but fairly relevant to this channel: https://github.com/jawhitti/INTERCAL < 1485853287 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(new INTERCAL impl, as far as I can make out, this time in .NET) < 1485853558 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Did I show you the INTERCAL entry the Computer History Museum had on their "evolution of programming languages" chart? < 1485853568 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzief/32208355921/ < 1485853598 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL is a derivative of itself? < 1485853605 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1485853621 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to write an esolang that's a derivative of itself, but wasn't sure how to start < 1485853794 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1485853804 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a bit like the bootstrapping problem for a self-hosted language, except trickier. < 1485853827 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485854039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1485854082 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: the easiest way to do that would be to write two programming languages, one a derivative of the other, but give them the same name and thoroughly confuse them in all documentation < 1485854117 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably that happens with most languages which release a new major version but don't use a version number for it < 1485854123 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1485854127 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think that would be a self-derivative, merely two languaes which were conflated < 1485854142 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could call Snowflake a derivative of itself, at least once there's a working interp and someone tries to run it < 1485854153 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with the frocking character encodings like cp1250 or MacRoman that get characters added or even changed without renaming them < 1485854472 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write a Snowflake interp one day < 1485854479 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the closest a nontrivial language of mine is to being art < 1485854480 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1485854496 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seeing it working in practice (if it does indeed work) would make the point much better < 1485854505 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be some fundamental issue preventing TCness, for example < 1485855419 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485855452 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485855529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i INTEGRAL is a derivative of itself < 1485855783 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485855873 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485856307 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485856907 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485857369 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485857433 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485857742 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1485857794 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485858076 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:b4fd:a7d3:be1a:5925 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485858736 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1485859489 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485859550 0 :ais523_!93bcc398@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.152 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1485859557 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1485859638 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485860229 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1485860450 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485861309 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485861739 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485861907 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that language that was lambda calculus without lambda? < 1485861949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds vague. < 1485861962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are lots of things you could describe that way. < 1485862306 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :combinator calculus? < 1485862503 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485862854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are? < 1485863029 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485863176 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485863238 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1485863462 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1485863888 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485863930 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: possibly unlambda? < 1485863939 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or underload? < 1485865169 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload sounds right < 1485865577 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485865701 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f029:105c:4ed7:8be0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485865766 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: VOLATILE CHICKEN < 1485865982 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f029:105c:4ed7:8be0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485867264 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1485867292 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1485867687 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f029:105c:4ed7:8be0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485867701 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f029:105c:4ed7:8be0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485867723 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485867746 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great, debian stretch is getting closer < 1485867753 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, will be released "soon") < 1485867764 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(within a few months) < 1485868003 0 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:Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1485876143 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485876341 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485876464 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485876709 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485877489 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they'll stretch it, b_jonas < 1485877605 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485877619 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1485877642 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485877655 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485877677 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, this may be the end of this computer < 1485877687 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the laptop bag broke and it took quite a lot of physical damage < 1485877708 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be undamaged in terms of components that are vital for it to run, and the hard drive seems to work < 1485877722 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the battery is broken, so I have to run on AC power < 1485877730 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the screen hinge is very stiff < 1485877733 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1485877743 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :✝ < 1485877775 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently attempting to download Ubuntu so that I can get a new computer set up, but the Internet connection's slowness is making that hard < 1485877778 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reuse it as a low powered server, continuously plugged in. that's what we did with a laptop with a broken display. < 1485877882 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have anywhere to put it, or a continuous Internet connection for it < 1485877899 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1485877954 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1485877965 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not liking Windows 10, btw; the first noticeable issue is a failure to find Action Center in the start menu search < 1485877975 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I thought would have been something that should clearly be included in the results < 1485878134 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a big problem? < 1485878284 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485878453 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not huge, but windows-8-derived OSes have always had trouble with finding where things have got to < 1485878461 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're basically two different models stapeled together < 1485878578 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the metro stuff (which is called something else now because it was such a marketing disaster), and the legacy stuff < 1485878578 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and settings are in one or the other more or less at random < 1485878686 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Win10 integrates an Ubuntu < 1485878703 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I don't like that either, how the settings are spread between the two < 1485878729 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1485878745 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485878755 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I don't like that either, how the settings are spread between the two < 1485878769 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I also don't like the metro style settings, for the same reason I don't like the android interface: it's too easy to change a setting accidentally such that you can't undo the change, don't know what you changed, and might not even notice you've changed something < 1485878800 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "Ok" and "Cancel" and "Apply" buttons are there in the windows style settings for a good reason < 1485878841 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think OK / Undo is also a viable setup < 1485878868 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(showing as just "Cancel" if there are no modifications) < 1485878924 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there's some of this problem in windows even before the metro style was introduced: the most famous one being accidentally moving files in the file explorer by dragging < 1485878987 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485878993 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485879013 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there's some of this problem in windows even before the metro style was introduced: the most famous one being accidentally moving files in the file explorer by dragging < 1485879081 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there are versions of Windows where that has a confirm < 1485879109 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe old ones did < 1485879133 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when exactly did that get removed? is it only in windows 10? < 1485879149 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I wonder if there's some well hidden way to turn the confirm promt back on < 1485879183 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, apparently it was changed some time between windows 7 and windows 10 < 1485879189 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485879204 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I misread < 1485879205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1485879325 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485879371 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485879372 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485879395 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing an internet search. I found pointers to two workarounds that probably hurt more than help. < 1485879485 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485879514 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485879535 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1485879537 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not a good time to have an unreliable connection < 1485879568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently wget has a bug that makes it delete its partial progress sometimes < 1485879582 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying curl < 1485879702 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I did use curl once to download from a server that unexpectedly broke the tcp connection each time after transmitting fifty megabytes or something. I don't remember the size, but it was some fixed sized, reproducible. < 1485879752 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just overheard in my office: "what is a monad?" < 1485879767 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeatedly called curl to continue download using HTTP range gets < 1485879777 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although apparently it was in the category-theory context so it may be easier to explain than normal < 1485879817 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you use -C - ? < 1485879831 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's documented as "automatically figure out an appropriate range get" < 1485879855 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaks every 124 megabytes < 1485879864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably that, yes < 1485879870 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look up the script < 1485879906 0 :Kaynato!Aedile@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-cdvsfzdezwashpzy JOIN :#esoteric < 1485879934 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, -C - < 1485879959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: note that the curl executable has nice exit codes telling what the error was, < 1485879960 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485880006 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485880007 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1485880018 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I used -C - . note that the curl executable has documented nice exit codes telling what the error was. < 1485880082 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I retry on exit codes 7, 56, 6, 18, but you'd have to check the manual to tell if that's appropriate in your case < 1485880187 0 :Kaynato!Aedile@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-cdvsfzdezwashpzy QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485880209 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1485880216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see manpage < 1485880368 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1485880589 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1485880661 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485880752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux question. The kernel knows that a process was started setuid, with different effective and real uid, even after if it's setuid root and calls setuid to drop all root permissions, and in that case it doesn't allow the process to core dump or get ptraced. From a library linked into the process, how do I query whether the process is like that, so eg. it can ignore env-vars in that case? < 1485880805 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should look that up in the source code of ncurses, since it has to do that. < 1485880848 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: prctl(PR_GET_DUMPABLE) would be my guess < 1485880878 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't hae an exact 1:1 correlation with what you want < 1485880916 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1485880929 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't tell what exactly I want, since setgid also matters < 1485880938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe other things matter too < 1485880949 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know when not to trust the settings a user can set < 1485880955 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no suidy stuff has happened yet, it has the value 1 < 1485880992 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if suidy stuff /has/ happened, it has a root-configurable value; 1 is a debug mode in which doing random stuff to suid programs is allowed, 0 is the default safe value, and 2 is an obsolete setting that's somewhere in between < 1485881025 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, prctl(PR_GET_DUMPABLE) seems like the right call < 1485881063 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you get a return of 1, either nothing suidy has happened or you're on a system whose owner has opted into insecure uses of suid < 1485881067 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, these days linuxes are sometimes configured such that you can ptrace any process < 1485881077 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/can/can't/? < 1485881080 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't < 1485881092 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't ptrace any process, not even your non-setuid ones < 1485881098 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Ubuntu you can only ptrace a child process, or a process that has opted in, even if UID is shared < 1485881098 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a /proc knob < 1485881109 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, something like that < 1485881123 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can change the default setting in /etc somewhere (this gets copied onto the relevant /proc or /sys knob, I forget which, at boot) < 1485881380 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not ashamed I didn't know about this one. prctl is one of those obscure syscalls I barely know exist, and sort of thought most of the time only libc has reasons to call it, like sysconf, except that one isn't even a syscall or a syscall wrapper, but something stranger than that. < 1485881488 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It reads key-value pairs from the top of the initial stack segment, same place where the ELF ABI stores the character data for argv and envp.) < 1485881576 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/libc/libc and some very nonportable executables like dosbox/ < 1485881877 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sysconf reads values that you can practically regard as constants, unless you run the compiled ELF program on a completely different brand of unix, in which case usually something else breaks way before those constants < 1485882129 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, prctl is pretty much the first thing I check for that sort of question < 1485882133 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like ioctl for processes < 1485882143 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is presumably where the name comes from) < 1485882191 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well one of the values in auxv is a random number intended to be used for ASLR < 1485882191 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that could potentially cause problems for Web of Lies, I haven't taken steps to zero it yet) < 1485882317 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero it? don't you just unmap that stack segment? < 1485882405 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iycyubggkprgledr QUIT :Excess Flood < 1485882629 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ybvqzyphjldhmdfp JOIN :#esoteric < 1485883014 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1485883106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: auxv? I don't think so, it's probably fairly important? < 1485883116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think half the information there is needed for, say, ldd to work < 1485883657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄showchar h < 1485883657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ U00068 h < 1485883657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠟⠻⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883659 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883668 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄showchar U < 1485883668 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ U00055 U < 1485883668 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883668 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883668 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⠻⣦⣴⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883671 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485883690 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rooted out hat I think is the last bug < 1485883694 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485883767 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a suitable font that supports braille you can get a large version of many unicode characters < 1485883959 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1485884186 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, corporate sent us cake! < 1485884305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cake < 1485884306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1485884364 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they actually sent it all the way from santa clara to toronto or if they just ordered one from a bakery in toronto < 1485884403 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, who cares. CAKE < 1485884490 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Restart requested by wlp1s1: update node.js < 1485884508 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1485884533 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Client Quit < 1485884589 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1485884914 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1485884943 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh my registrar command is to slow for freenode uwu < 1485885829 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485887093 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485887229 0 :MoALTz_!?@? NICK :MoALTz < 1485887373 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485887400 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1485887413 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485887430 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1485887450 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485887551 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f029:105c:4ed7:8be0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485887589 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f029:105c:4ed7:8be0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485887616 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485887852 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f029:105c:4ed7:8be0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485888223 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in japan < 1485888227 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :87歳女性に下半身を露出容疑 75歳「むらっとした」 < 1485888233 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :75 year old man arrested for exposing his dick to a 87 year old woman < 1485888289 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1485888337 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485888355 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1485888815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1485889315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy29DXeP0Qk < 1485889402 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485889420 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1485889548 0 :augur!~augur@crowdflower.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485889835 0 :augur!~augur@crowdflower.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485890288 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485890631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄showchar h < 1485890631 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ U00068 h < 1485890632 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485890632 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠟⠻⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485890632 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485890632 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485890647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, looks better in irssi than in the logs < 1485890665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the space doesn't have the same width as the braille, there) < 1485890823 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. it looks crap on my tablet but reasonable on my smartphone < 1485890899 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485890899 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠞⠻⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485890899 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ ⣿⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ < 1485890907 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would look better like this. < 1485890959 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't like oren's font) < 1485891041 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1485891211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485893058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1485893208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485893651 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485894638 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485894910 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485894913 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1485895038 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1485895172 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this is the new computer < 1485895186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything seems to be working except that I'm still getting used to the touchpad placement < 1485895191 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently transferring the files over < 1485895506 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1485895572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing I'm getting used to is that PgUp/PgDn/Home/End are in a different relative order in this laptop < 1485896586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you have those keys. On my laptop they're Fn+arrows. < 1485896608 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn+arrows is love iff you have a right fn < 1485896616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485896752 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I actually chose this one over another laptop because the other laptop didn't have an end key < 1485896757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it did have home, pgup and pgdn) < 1485896768 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure how you manage that < 1485896909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the other laptop? < 1485896961 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My non-laptop keyboard follows that one weird fad where the insert/delete keys have been replaced with one big delete key, and the insert pushed up to where print screen used to be. < 1485897076 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, I cannot say what I'd need the insert key for, so that might work for me < 1485897096 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not exactly keys I use much, it's just weird. < 1485897109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a bit of a lie, I use the overwrite mode in editors once per fortnight or so) < 1485897116 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't find the del key especially hard to hit. < 1485897142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fad where all keyboards have caps lock keys is scow. < 1485897145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but misplacing pgup and pgdn would be horrible. < 1485897156 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: My laptop doesn't. < 1485897172 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it's fine now that it acts as the main window manager key < 1485897184 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some people map it to ESC for vi(m). < 1485897189 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You double-tap left shift, and then a little green led lights up to denote caps lock. < 1485897201 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know people put control there. < 1485897249 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, the laptop is extra-weird. Where you would normally have caps lock, it has a split [Home|End] key. < 1485897307 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of these things might work fine if they were available consistently on all keyboards, but I can never remember to use any keyboard-exclusive things. < 1485897604 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC4nBBwJtL4 < 1485897653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485898335 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485898466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1485898650 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1485900116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1485901902 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485902176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1485902194 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1485903011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485903104 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck my life < 1485903115 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that a command line can't be longer than 128 kilobytes? < 1485903123 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: on what? < 1485903128 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it differs by system < 1485903167 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is i'm running up against the limit of how long a shell command is allowed to be < 1485903190 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, what are you doing that's causing this to be an issue? < 1485903207 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :passing a lot of filenames to a command < 1485903216 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485903235 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :コンボアリハ < 1485903247 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1485903262 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485903899 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\コレンバンは\ < 1485903941 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes the font? < 1485903948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485904028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm still working on kanji, but I now have support for cree < 1485904063 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :᐀ᐁᐂᐃᐄᐅᐆᐇᐈᐉᐊᐋᐌᐍᐎᐏᐐᐑᐒᐓᐔᐕᐖᐗᐘᐙᐚᐛᐜᐝ < 1485904066 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᐞᐟᐠᐡᐢᐣᐤᐥᐦᐧᐨᐩᐪᐫᐬᐭᐮᐯᐰᐱᐲᐳᐴᐵᐶᐷᐸᐹᐺᐻᐼᐽᐾᐿᑀᑁᑂᑃᑄᑅᑆᑇᑈᑉᑊᑋᑌᑍᑎᑏᑐᑑᑒᑓᑔᑕᑖᑗᑘᑙᑚᑛᑜᑝ < 1485904068 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1485904070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᑞᑟᑠᑡᑢᑣᑤᑥᑦᑧᑨᑩᑪᑫᑬᑭᑮᑯᑰᑱᑲᑳᑴᑵᑶᑷᑸᑹᑺᑻᑼᑽᑾᑿᒀᒁᒂᒃᒄᒅᒆᒇᒈᒉᒊᒋᒌᒍᒎᒏᒐᒑᒒᒓᒔᒕᒖᒗᒘᒙᒚᒛᒜᒝ < 1485904074 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᒞᒟᒠᒡᒢᒣᒤᒥᒦᒧᒨᒩᒪᒫᒬᒭᒮᒯᒰᒱᒲᒳᒴᒵᒶᒷᒸᒹᒺᒻᒼᒽᒾᒿᓀᓁᓂᓃᓄᓅᓆᓇᓈᓉᓊᓋᓌᓍᓎᓏᓐᓑᓒᓓᓔᓕᓖᓗᓘᓙᓚᓛᓜᓝ < 1485904078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᓞᓟᓠᓡᓢᓣᓤᓥᓦᓧᓨᓩᓪᓫᓬᓭᓮᓯᓰᓱᓲᓳᓴᓵᓶᓷᓸᓹᓺᓻᓼᓽᓾᓿᔀᔁᔂᔃᔄᔅᔆᔇᔈᔉᔊᔋᔌᔍᔎᔏᔐᔑᔒᔓᔔᔕᔖᔗᔘᔙᔚᔛᔜᔝ < 1485904082 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᔞᔟᔠᔡᔢᔣᔤᔥᔦᔧᔨᔩᔪᔫᔬᔭᔮᔯᔰᔱᔲᔳᔴᔵᔶᔷᔸᔹᔺᔻᔼᔽ < 1485904163 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᑳᒥᔪᓇᑲᐧᕁ < 1485904223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Speaking of linkers, there's some feature missing from gold that I wanted to use once. < 1485904256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was inserting the section start and size or something like that. < 1485904282 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think something like that has been discussed on the channel too. < 1485904288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of undocumented in GNU ld so maybe I shouldn't blame them. < 1485904296 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of things, I had a funny story about Bazel. < 1485904300 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not that funny. < 1485904374 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those stories where things go more wrong while you keep trying to solve them. I think there's an xkcd with a similar plot. < 1485904424 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://xkcd.com/349/ < 1485904431 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except a little more modest. < 1485904533 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to tell the funny story twh < 1485904597 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave it too much hype, and now it'd be just a disappointment. Also come to think of it, it's more about the Android Studio with Bazel plugin. < 1485904608 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I might as well. < 1485904609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't back out now. < 1485904626 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1485904676 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first step was that all external dependencies from the WORKSPACE file stopped resolving in Android Studio, so all Guava classes got red squiggly lines, and "com.google: package does not exist" errors, and things like that. < 1485904696 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I screwed this up already. < 1485904701 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was actually the second step. < 1485904724 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first step was that the ASwB plugin wanted to update, and I let it. External dependencies not resolving was just the consequence of that. < 1485904770 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I went to browse the webs, noticed the plugin's source mentioned Android Studio 2.3b2, so I went ahead and updated that as well. < 1485904794 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That made all Android resources stop resolving as well, so now "R.id.foo" references got red squiggly lines as well. < 1485904847 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :To fix *that*, I thought I'd re-import the project entirely. < 1485904862 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which led to: "Project view validation failed, but we couldn't find an error message. Please report a bug." < 1485904870 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I had no project. The end. < 1485905274 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1485906685 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485907055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485907121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's pretty good. < 1485907175 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs his Eclipse and takes care of it