00:00:00 fizzie: You should try out Buck and see if it's better. 00:02:22 -!- tromp has joined. 00:02:52 shachaf: FWIW, turned out all the rest of the problems were because the plugin just didn't support Android Studio 2.3 yet, while the "external dependencies not resolving" was due to a bad experiment they had pushed out, and had already disabled by the time I reached the end of the story. 00:03:00 You know those Googlers, always experimenting on people. 00:03:17 I didn't even know the thing had an experimentation framework. 00:03:26 `? fizzie 00:03:27 fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg 00:03:58 `slwd fizzie//s. k. canary k. 00:04:00 fizzie//fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky canary king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg 00:04:25 `? oerjan 00:04:26 Your wise @messages-lord fanfic oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Glasswegian who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience; but lately it's the only word he can ever remember. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 00:05:04 `? funpun 00:05:05 funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz. 00:05:35 `rot13 Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz. 00:05:36 The unit of fun punnery is named after him. 00:14:14 `wisdom canary 00:14:15 That's not wise. 00:14:19 `? canary 00:14:20 canary? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 00:15:18 `learn A canary is a small bright yellow chicken that dwells in deep caves. Unlike bats, canaries are oriented right way up. 00:15:21 Learned 'canary': A canary is a small bright yellow chicken that dwells in deep caves. Unlike bats, canaries are oriented right way up. 00:20:34 helloily 00:22:10 quinthellopia 00:22:33 boily: can you hear god talking here: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EkAZ2uFsCG 00:23:24 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:26:25 -!- ais523 has joined. 00:26:39 hiyais523 00:27:11 quintopia: what the heck is that 00:27:13 I can hear. 00:27:14 quintopia: is that you? 00:27:29 also, I think you found the perfect ais523porthello. 00:27:54 hi 00:29:02 quintopia: I heard god :D 00:29:21 I still want to see a picture of the computer ais523 didn't choose. 00:29:34 quintopia: i listened to the whole thing, still confused af 00:29:36 IIRC it was by Asus 00:29:43 that might help? 00:29:49 I didn't take a picture of it though 00:30:48 whoa whoa whoa 00:30:58 I think I may have considered buying that computer once. 00:31:04 http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Asus/UX501JW-DS71T/P5070055.jpg 00:31:09 The UX501VW something 00:32:27 At least there's an end key on the number pad. 00:33:15 krok: then it succeeded 00:33:58 -!- tromp has joined. 00:34:13 `wisdom 00:34:14 c++//Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. 00:34:30 @karma c 00:34:31 c has a karma of 2 00:34:33 @karma C 00:34:34 C has a karma of 2 00:34:47 @karma boily 00:34:48 You have a karma of 108 00:35:06 still at the magical number ^^ 00:35:55 @karma c/c 00:35:55 c/c has a karma of 1751 00:36:31 who again had managed to flood the chännel, that one infamous time? 00:51:29 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:02:06 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:17:51 -!- Marcela_Gandara has left. 01:28:58 -!- krok_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:31:36 `wisdom 01:31:38 fabric of reality//The fabric of reality is *not* plaid corduroy, no matter what evil tongues say. 01:31:54 paisley. 01:31:57 `wisdom 01:31:58 ehlist//ehlist is update notification for the Everyday Heroes webcomic. http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/ 01:32:23 `wisdom 01:32:25 program//A program is an image created by means of prography. 01:32:28 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:32:32 `wisdom 01:32:33 p//P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. 01:32:56 `? NP 01:32:57 NP is the complexity class of decisions that are No Problem. 01:33:33 I believe it will become irrelevant if P = and/or != NP, we'll just brute force everything in due time. 01:34:06 only brutes use brute force 01:34:31 brutes with raw musculo-computing power. 01:35:07 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:35:09 `wisdom 01:35:10 lie algebra//A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size. 01:36:05 -!- tromp has joined. 01:37:10 are there practical applications to Lie algebra? 01:40:30 -!- Marcela_- has joined. 01:40:46 We all got a chicken-duck-woman thing waiting for us. 01:40:47 (I clicked too much in YouTube.) 01:41:35 Every day I worry all day ♪ 01:43:14 Yes. 01:43:32 * Marcela_- y jackiller_killex pronton se casan :-[ quien se anota para la boda ? 01:45:26 ¿porqué ":-["? ¿no eres alegre? 01:52:36 :-[ 01:53:15 -!- Marcela_- has left. 01:57:01 `wisdom 01:57:02 dowry//A dowry is a pribe paid for a brice, or maybe a bribe paid for a pride. 01:57:16 -!- Marcela_- has joined. 01:57:32 Marcela_-: ¿qué es un :-[? 01:57:52 -!- Marcela_- has left. 01:58:20 fungot: any clue? 01:58:20 boily: it was a hacked up quick and dirty memory fnord normally used it in about any language 02:01:34 `wisdom 02:01:35 al gore//Al Gore invented the algorithm and the internet. 02:01:58 `wisdom 02:01:59 bardsworthlist//bardsworthlist is update notification for the Bardsworth webcomic. http://www.bardsworth.com/ 02:05:43 `dowg al gore 02:05:47 6206:2015-11-13 le/rn al gore/Al Gore invented the algorithm and the internet. \ 6113:2015-10-20 le/rn al gore/Al Gore invented the algorithm. \ 6106:2015-10-20 le/rn al gore/al gore invented the algorithm 02:06:28 `undo 6206 02:06:30 patching file 'wisdom/al gore' 02:06:35 `? al gore 02:06:36 Al Gore invented the algorithm. 02:14:35 -!- boily has quit (Quit: MAJOR CHICKEN). 02:37:41 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 02:41:23 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 02:43:27 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:56:33 -!- blackmailed_ has joined. 02:58:51 @metar PAMR 02:58:52 PAMR 010253Z 00000KT 10SM OVC085 M01/M04 A3043 RMK AO2 SLP305 T10111039 53015 03:01:48 -!- blackmailed_ has left. 03:13:11 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:19:36 -!- kiki` has joined. 04:07:57 i still can't log in to the freakin' wiki 04:08:27 like--i've got four cookies set from esolangs.org--but apparently that's not enough for my login to stick 04:09:16 ...and apparently deleting them fixed it 04:09:17 never mind 04:26:15 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:46:01 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:47:57 [wiki] [[Silberjoder]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50828 * Quintopia * (+3772) Page created 04:48:39 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50829&oldid=50820 * Quintopia * (+18) 04:49:05 [wiki] [[CALESYTA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50830&oldid=50737 * Quintopia * (+41) 04:50:08 [wiki] [[User:Quintopia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50831&oldid=46041 * Quintopia * (+80) 04:51:18 [wiki] [[Platts]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50832&oldid=45607 * Quintopia * (-45) /* Implementation */ 05:03:47 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 05:20:53 -!- Akaibu has joined. 05:29:35 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:35:09 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 05:44:16 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 05:55:57 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:06:07 -!- augur has joined. 06:08:11 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:08:23 -!- augur has joined. 06:26:42 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 06:30:43 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:37:25 <\oren\> Oh, look, someone baleeted their whole production database 06:37:38 <\oren\> https://twitter.com/gitlabstatus/status/826591961444384768 06:40:29 hell\oren\ 06:40:35 how's your build system today 06:40:39 you should invent a good build system 06:42:24 <\oren\> shachaf: It's 1:42 AM, but the build system was crap today 06:42:36 it's always 1:42 AM somewhere 06:43:07 <\oren\> The pre checkin tests failed to fail, the continuous build failed 06:43:28 <\oren\> because apparently there's a limit to how long a command line can be 06:44:02 <\oren\> which was passed by the continuous build but not the pre-checkin tests 06:46:52 -!- tromp has joined. 06:49:51 <\oren\> hopefully things will be better by tomorrow afternoon 06:51:14 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 06:58:42 -!- otherbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:12:25 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 07:12:39 -!- HackEgo has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:47:51 -!- tromp has joined. 08:52:35 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 09:16:59 -!- LKoen has joined. 10:03:36 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 10:08:07 -!- FreeFull has joined. 10:24:06 -!- oerjan has joined. 10:41:10 @tell boily <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve mul are there practical applications to Lie algebra? 10:41:11 Consider it noted. 10:41:50 @tell boily oops. something pasted prematurely. stupid touchpad. 10:41:50 Consider it noted. 10:43:01 @tell boily are there practical applications to Lie algebra? <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve multidimensional diff. eqs with them. well, i think that's what we did. it was in Lie's hometown. 10:43:02 Consider it noted. 10:47:30 @tell boily someone got the bright idea to have math summer schools there, it's a pretty small town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordfjordeid 10:47:31 Consider it noted. 10:49:04 -!- tromp has joined. 10:49:43 @tell oh. they're still doing that http://www.mn.uio.no/math/english/about/collaboration/nordfjordeid/ 10:49:44 Consider it noted. 10:53:38 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:21:38 *sigh* wiki down again 11:29:17 -!- hakatashi has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:30:31 -!- hakatashi has joined. 11:33:07 `whoami 11:33:29 (okay, that was silly) 11:34:01 -!- boily has joined. 11:34:27 afternoily 11:34:57 int-ernoon 11:35:00 -!- jix has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:35:46 -!- jix has joined. 11:42:19 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 11:47:09 børjan matin, bon matint-e. 11:47:26 @massages-loud 11:47:26 oerjan said 1h 6m 15s ago: <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve mul are there practical applications to Lie algebra? 11:47:27 oerjan said 1h 5m 36s ago: oops. something pasted prematurely. stupid touchpad. 11:47:27 oerjan said 1h 4m 24s ago: are there practical applications to Lie algebra? <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve multidimensional diff. eqs with them. well, i 11:47:27 think that's what we did. it was in Lie's hometown. 11:47:27 oerjan said 59m 55s ago: someone got the bright idea to have math summer schools there, it's a pretty small town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordfjordeid 11:48:19 i thought i sent one more 11:48:26 tdh. 11:48:35 oh. apparently i sent it to poor "oh." 11:48:56 @tell oh. they're still doing that http://www.mn.uio.no/math/english/about/collaboration/nordfjordeid/ 11:49:53 surprise sane people, in Girl Genius? how can this be. 11:52:29 that was disturbingly logical... 11:58:40 sane? 11:58:49 oerjan: that sounded like fungot 11:58:49 int-e: maybe " esoteric wide web" is defined??' as ' codepoint.' now they have support for variable witdth fonts ( which i haven't even tested yet, it solves all this monkeying around, doesn't it 11:58:52 well, not sparks. 11:59:12 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 12:00:13 anyway this city network must be quite crowded by now 12:01:22 are you saying beausoleil is self replicating tdnh 12:01:35 oerjan: and are you suggesting that sparks are not entirely sane... don't let them hear you! 12:01:50 no, I'm not saying that 12:01:56 no, tarvek is suggesting it hth 12:03:08 I'm just saying that at least 4 entities have messed with that network recently... the master himself, beausoleil (presumably), the castle, and colette. 12:03:32 well the castle was thrown out 12:04:01 I'm half expecting it to go back in... let's see :P 12:04:30 well i'm expecting it come with gun blazing 12:04:35 *to come 12:04:36 but I see no hint of replication in there. 12:04:49 that was a joke 12:04:55 -!- tromp has joined. 12:06:33 oh. "it". 12:08:57 Meh I hate colds... brain moving like molassess. 12:09:06 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:10:00 * boily gives int-e oerjan's match 12:10:49 man, those match last long 12:10:53 *matches 12:10:58 grammar hard is 12:18:43 maybe the match is a proper torch 12:19:57 -!- tromp has joined. 12:24:20 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 12:24:57 -!- boily has quit (Quit: LAUGHING CHICKEN). 12:40:19 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:40:19 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 12:40:19 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:48:59 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:05:50 -!- Cale has quit (Excess Flood). 13:10:46 -!- xa0 has quit (Quit: Divided by zero). 13:11:07 -!- xa0 has joined. 13:44:39 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 13:49:29 -!- tromp has joined. 13:54:23 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:01:55 -!- augur has joined. 15:05:09 -!- `^_^v has joined. 15:10:10 -!- Cale has joined. 15:17:48 -!- ais523 has joined. 15:36:55 -!- ais523 has quit. 15:49:57 -!- tromp has joined. 15:54:07 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:05:09 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 16:15:53 <\oren\> My grade 6 teacher is retiring and we're gonna throw him a party! 16:19:35 <\oren\> I wonder how common that is 16:20:07 <\oren\> Also, I'm pretty sure some people wont come because they didn't like him 16:24:10 what kind of rum are you getting him? 16:40:26 <\oren\> hmm, maybe that would be a good idea 16:40:32 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: Off for now). 16:51:10 -!- tromp has joined. 16:55:35 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 16:58:40 -!- GReaperEx has joined. 17:00:00 So... what's up with esolangs.org, does anyone know why it's down or when it'll return? 17:04:04 The VM hosting the wiki seems to be down... fizzie might know more, but perhaps it needs divine intervention from Gregor :/ 17:11:22 Ok, I guess I'll have to wait and see. It was down the day before yesterday too. 17:21:25 -!- GReaperEx has quit (Quit: Page closed). 17:29:16 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:45:07 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:45:27 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:03:30 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:05:37 <\oren\> hippavilion[1]! 18:23:58 -!- augur has joined. 18:24:20 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:34:08 -!- augur has joined. 18:36:38 -!- tromp has joined. 18:41:06 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:45:29 It was down, and then back up. 18:46:07 I don't really have any visibility to the hosting provider, so yes, I think a Gregorvention is required. Or maybe it just comes back up naturally. 18:46:19 i guess i've gotten lucky. it's always been up when i've looked 18:46:57 It's usually up. 18:47:02 I'm guessing there's at least one nine. 18:47:19 90%+? 18:47:22 Right. 18:47:32 i'd wager on 2 18:47:37 nine fives of reliability 18:47:46 on the granularity of minutes 18:48:18 I have some monitoring on it, but I keep forgetting how this InfluxDB query language works. 18:48:29 It sure is no Dremel, I can say that much. 18:48:37 how is reliability usually measured anyway? continuously? 18:49:10 fizzie: I've been using Prometheus (a Borgmon clone) recently. 18:52:36 How rude, picking a name that's already an internal codename. 18:52:54 -!- oerjan has joined. 18:53:09 "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped." 18:53:12 That's unfortunate. 18:53:29 int-e: Bizarrely, the VM seems up but not on the network. 18:53:39 I'm gonna give it a kick. 18:53:40 fizzie: Is that the one that's the future? 18:53:48 Not sure why it decided that network access is for losers. 18:54:11 shachaf: I guess all of them are. 18:54:18 Or at least were at some point. 18:54:34 I keep mixing up my internal code names. 18:54:47 Oh well, not important. 18:56:13 <\oren\> relevant: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/27/bofh_2015_episode_2/ 19:00:39 Gregor: oh, hope it's not permanent 19:02:06 (I've just lost a CaC VM that way about two weeks ago, VM was up but lost network... however in that case the gateway was also unreachable from outside and that doesn't appear to be the case here.) 19:03:19 (that's assuming that the gateway is 162.248.166.1) 19:03:33 That is indeed the gateway. 19:07:58 int-e: Problem seems to be the opposite. Outside can see GW but it can't. 19:09:03 `olist 1064 19:09:15 Oh, no HackEgo 19:09:25 Just as well, HackEgo being slow makes me not want to olist. 19:10:44 Since I olist, then it doesn't reply for a long while so I switch to another window, then it notifies me. 19:12:17 Gregor: the gateway being visible from outside is new to me, it not being visible from inside also happened with my VM. total routing failure. 19:12:46 Not really much I can do about it :) 19:13:26 Yeah. You can create a ticket and wait while CaC totally ignores it. 19:14:42 Yup. 19:16:16 or you can set up a mirror of http://www.cloudatacost.com/ (I suspect the owner would gladly give you permission :P) 19:17:54 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 19:26:02 -!- krok has joined. 19:26:25 -!- krok has changed nick to Guest46309. 19:26:37 -!- Guest46309 has quit (Client Quit). 19:26:57 -!- krok_ has joined. 19:31:03 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 19:33:45 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:38:57 -!- MoALTz has joined. 19:40:55 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:44:47 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:56:24 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 19:57:52 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 20:24:36 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:28:57 https://cloudatcocks.com/ 20:29:04 actual website with useful info ^ 20:37:38 -!- tromp has joined. 20:42:08 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 21:05:29 <\oren\> argh, now nano is freezing?! 21:05:50 i think this is "everything breaks" week 21:06:10 -!- bibibi has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 21:08:00 <\oren\> oerjan: well at least the build system is working 21:12:51 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 21:13:36 \oren\: well that was broken from the start hth 21:33:40 <\oren\> Water Rabbit refuses to pay back EU funds 21:34:26 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 21:37:48 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 21:39:37 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 21:42:03 "The most common problems noticed are long waits for virtual machine deployment, loss of network connection, or total loss of a virtual machine. " 21:51:38 <\oren\> Albino Heghog is in the lead in nederland polls 21:52:46 izabera: Your cock wiki seems a little spam-infested. 21:53:57 a clear case of std 22:01:00 it's on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/esolangs/comments/5r1g6l/esolangsorg_is_down/ 22:02:23 Oh no. :/ 22:02:45 well it's a very small subreddit. 22:03:18 Still, those are *real people* we're disappointifying. Not just #esoteric regulars. 22:03:57 <\oren\> I don't have a reddit acount, I deleted it 22:04:00 . o O ( `addquote ... oh wait ) 22:04:19 I have once done a read-only backup copy for the wiki. Wonder if I should do something like that again. 22:04:53 Probably depends on how long the server is going to be down. 22:21:01 -!- ais523 has joined. 22:21:08 fizzie: wiki seems to be down 22:26:18 ais523: We were discussing that very thing right now, in fact. 22:26:26 right, I just checked the log 22:26:35 PPCG went and told me to go ping you though 22:26:48 so it looks like there's at least two communities outside us that care about the wiki being down… 22:27:23 That's: so weird. Maybe I'll see if I can set up that read-only copy. I might still have most of the configuration in place. 22:28:29 Fortunately it was up on the 30th, so my weekly backup isn't even particularly stale. 22:38:35 -!- tromp has joined. 22:43:14 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 22:47:00 Hmm. What I don't have in my backups is the SSL certificate, since it's rather elsewhere. That's a shame. 22:56:33 This database restore takes a relatively long time. 23:01:27 Hrm. 23:01:37 I'm getting back "A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software." 23:02:10 Although maybe that was because the MySQL instance wasn't listening on TCP, just a Unix domain socket. Wonder if MediaWiki could use that. 23:02:55 Oh, it's already supposed to do that when the server is specified as "localhost". 23:06:56 I set on $wgShowSQLErrors, and the other error reporting thing on Manual:How_to_debug, but it still says nothing more verbose than that. :( 23:07:59 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 23:09:04 Odd. The maintenance/rebuildFileCache.php script I executed from the command line seems to have no problems with the database. 23:09:12 And I think it's using the same settings. 23:11:17 Oh, whoops, it was using a path to the old version of MediaWiki for the PHP thing. 23:13:57 It's being pretty slow, but it did show up, yay. Wonder if I should try to set up the HTTPS thing as well. 23:23:44 Oh, right, I'll have to reconfigure the DNS before letsencrypt can actually do the domain verification thing. 23:30:54 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:32:34 Okay, wiki should be back up in read-only mode. 23:34:00 (May also be slow, and you might have to wait for DNS records to propagate.) 23:39:44 -!- tromp has joined. 23:44:28 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 23:55:57 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer).