00:07:53 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:08:34 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 00:13:34 shachaf: 373+1 and 9 lasers now, good night 00:14:24 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:17:17 Into the next specification of ARB_fragment_program should add the arctangent function I think it seem to be the only thing they miss. 00:23:15 well GLSL has it anyway 00:34:19 `` rhino --version 00:34:20 Invalid option "--version" \ Usage: java org.mozilla.javascript.tools.shell.Main [options...] [files] \ Valid options are: \ -?, -help Displays help messages. \ -w Enable warnings. \ -version 100|110|120|130|140|150|160|170 \ Set a specific language version. \ -opt [-1|0-9] Set op 00:35:13 hm based on the 170, it's even older than what's on my nvg account, which is from 2011. 00:35:54 * oerjan is having trouble running some of the code examples on ppcg 00:36:28 in particular, []["find"] returns undefined, while the claim there was it should give a function object 00:38:32 You should add the one with ES6 00:38:57 oh according to wikipedia, there hasn't been a new version since 1.8.5, so that's not the problem 01:01:06 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:03:17 -!- augur has joined. 01:09:40 oerjan: It's "Rhino 1.7 release 3 2012 02 13". 01:09:49 oerjan: I sometimes update the actual machine, but never really the chroot from which HackEgo gets its /usr from. 01:10:04 ah 01:10:07 -!- krok_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:10:32 that ppcg thread seemed to be using browser js implementations, anyway 01:10:46 Yeah, I don't know if Rhino's really all that hip and pop anymore. 01:11:10 int-e: What's the +1? 01:11:12 Node runs on Chrome's V8, right? 01:11:44 * oerjan has "no idea" about this stuff 01:13:01 Me neither, I just saw a Github repo README advertising jobs for people "keen on ES2016 React+Redux applications and Node micro services". 01:13:28 So I guess that's where they think it's at. 01:20:33 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:26:28 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 01:41:47 this has some other interesting entries than the js []+=` as well http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/110648/fewest-distinct-characters-for-turing-completeness 01:42:29 * oerjan is only a slight way down yet 01:43:18 * oerjan somehow wasn't expecting haskell to get the top place, but in hindsight... 01:46:24 -!- \oren\ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 01:52:44 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:07:41 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:12:15 ooh, i'm cited in it 02:26:58 -!- HackEgo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:27:09 twice! 02:27:15 oops 02:29:38 `? oerjan 02:29:46 twoops 02:30:11 * oerjan felt an urge to add "resident" somewhere 02:50:40 thrice! 02:52:55 -!- \oren\ has joined. 02:53:01 <\oren\> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 02:55:11 * oerjan uses the tranquilizer arrow again >---> 03:02:59 fizzie: Node.js does use V8 JavaScript, yes. 03:07:47 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:16:19 <\oren\> If the value of a variable is not printed out often enough, it randomizes 03:21:44 <\oren\> `unicode 漆 03:26:19 fizzie: HackEgo is disjointed again hth 04:01:18 -!- heroux has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:05:26 <\oren\> my election slogan will be "vote for me, or you're a nazi" 04:05:44 <\oren\> it rhymes even 04:06:08 um, it doesn't 04:06:16 <\oren\> yes it does 04:06:37 <\oren\> vote for meeeee or youre a naziiiii 04:06:42 nazi is stressed on the first syllable hth 04:07:46 <\oren\> EH?!?! 04:08:06 problem? 04:09:20 <\oren\> whatever, the point is, all my opponents are literlly hitler. 04:09:47 spelling nazis 04:10:18 <\oren\> therefore, my voters are good people, and the people who voted against me are nazis 04:11:54 I think that is not how to 04:12:07 At the rate American politics is going, in 2024 the GOP might literally resurrect Hitler for their candidate. 04:12:08 * oerjan envisions \oren\ breaking into russia to get a genetic sample of hitler's jaw, so he can clone opponents 04:13:30 <\oren\> "Mr. Oren, how do you respond to allegations that you took campain controbutions from the oil indestry?" "The news outlets that reported that are the modern day der sturmer." 04:14:11 "Mr. Oren, we must protest your heinously ungrammatical use of "der" in that sentence." 04:15:18 <\oren\> "No you can't have a question, you're der sturmer!" 04:15:18 oh wait 04:16:12 -!- heroux has joined. 04:20:10 -!- heroux has quit (K-Lined). 04:21:45 <\oren\> pikhq: then the democratic party clearly need to get Lenin 04:25:39 -!- kiki` has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 04:55:55 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 05:00:50 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSh2HswKn5Y 05:01:39 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 05:13:34 wat, girl genius hasn't updated 05:14:10 THE END OF AN ERA 05:15:48 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-rbl0n3BUQ 05:17:30 <\oren\> QC did tho 05:18:29 <\oren\> I wonder if Jepf is playing Va-11 Hall-A? 05:23:29 <\oren\> ARGH idiots it's not A E S T H E T I C it's aesthetic 05:25:42 choir has a song with a click in it 05:25:47 I was not cut out to be a Zulu 05:26:10 Eh. 05:29:20 alercah: tsk, tsk 05:29:52 oerjan: wrong one 05:30:07 that's the c, we're doing the q 05:37:27 <\oren\> Click this bar! Get my font! It's designed for aesthetic terminals and editors. 05:37:38 <\oren\> that's my new tagline 05:38:34 アノサ、 ソノ ゼンカクローマジゲ ヘンダト オモウノサ。 05:38:44 *ガ 05:40:04 <\oren\> pikhq: what, the ones in my font you mean? 05:40:13 No, just in general. 05:40:50 <\oren\> oh. the aesthetic is something I see posted all over vaporwave songs on youtube in the comments 05:41:16 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/ <-- you can see how it looks in my font here 05:45:04 \oren\: what was your dataset for the japanese n5 test? 05:45:50 <\oren\> Something I found using google 05:46:10 <\oren\> I then copypasted it, sedded it up into the file 05:54:10 <\oren\> m currenlty updating my font 05:55:56 <\oren\> 浪浮浸涙涯涼淑淡淫添渇渉渋渓渡渦湧湾湿溝溶溺滅滋滑滝滞滴漂漆漏漠漬漸潜 05:59:39 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 06:01:47 Some useful characters in there. 06:02:40 <\oren\> ⦅⦆ 06:02:56 <\oren\> I don't know why those wen't already in 06:05:28 <\oren\> ᔾᔿᕀᕁᕂᕃᕄᕅᕆᕇᕈᕉᕊᕋᕌᕍᕎᕏᕐᕑᕒᕓᕔᕕᕖᕗᕘᕙᕚᕛᕜᕝᕞᕟᕠᕡᕢᕣᕤᕥᕦᕧᕨᕩᕪᕾᕿᖀᖁᖂᖃᖄᖅ 06:05:45 <\oren\> almost finished with inuktitut 06:10:14 <\oren\> and more mathy stuff ⦛⦜⦝⦞⦟⦠⦡⦢⦣⦤⦥⦦⦧⦨⦩⦪⦫⦬⦭⦮⦯⧄⧅⧆⧇⧈⧉⧊⧋⧌⧍⧎⧏⧐⧘⧙⧚⧛⧜⧝⧞⧟ 06:11:24 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:15:12 <\oren\> that's it for this update 06:25:06 -!- Cale has joined. 06:28:59 <\oren\> oh, and I'm updating my description 06:29:03 <\oren\> Neoletters supports the unicode wide, 𝐛𝐨𝐥𝐝, 𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑐, 𝓈𝒸𝓇𝒾𝓅𝓉, 𝔣𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯, and 𝕕𝕠𝕦𝕓𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕦𝕔𝕜 letters, and renders bold fraktur as 𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖎𝖆𝖑. 07:08:22 -!- LKoen has joined. 07:12:24 -!- LKoen has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:35:54 I made a implementation of /// and the second beer program seems broke. I think I can see that the beer program seem wrong to me actually. 07:37:28 I changed "[/NL1/NL/]" into "[/NL1/NL-/]", and "[/NLNL0#0!//]" into "[/NLNL-0#-0!//]", and "[/1 bottles/1 bottle/V" into "[/NL-/NL//NL bottles/NL1 bottle/V", and now it is work. Is that the proper way to do? 07:38:46 Does the original program works on your computer? 08:20:37 `unicode U+25FB 08:22:58 so there's a U+25FB WHITE MEDIUM SQUARE, and also a U+1F78F MEDIUM WHITE SQUARE 08:24:03 whoa 08:24:05 too good 08:24:07 (the first medium is neither large nor small; the second medium is neither heavy nor light) 08:24:16 unicode, for all your white multimedia needs 08:24:24 25FB WHITE MEDIUM SQUARE [◻] 08:24:32 1F78F MEDIUM WHITE SQUARE [🞏] 09:07:30 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:08:03 -!- augur has joined. 09:12:49 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:21:14 -!- HackEgo has joined. 09:21:21 That's better. 09:35:30 -!- augur has joined. 09:42:46 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:21:59 shachaf: I expected that question. 10:31:58 -!- erkin has joined. 10:34:17 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:11:16 [wiki] [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51100&oldid=51049 * Haael * (+70) /* Mathematics */ Base 2 11:15:49 -!- augur_ has joined. 11:18:59 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 11:39:35 -!- boily has joined. 11:40:12 `wisdom 11:40:14 title//Titles J. K. Rowling had specifically denied on her webpage would be the titles of the sixth or seventh Harry Potter book are: Harry Potter and the{ Green Flame Torch, Mountain of Fantasy, Fortress of Shadows, Forest of Shadows, Graveyard of Memories, Pyramids of Furmat, Pillar of Storgé, Toenail of Icklibõgg}. 11:46:54 -!- LKoen has joined. 12:07:18 \oren\: about your font, since you're adding such rare characters, you should consider adding vowels for Russian, Bulgarian, and Lithuanian with extra accents to mark stress or length that are used only in dictionaries, not in ordinary text. Many of these don't have precomposed characters in unicode, but you can still make a glyph for them. 12:07:26 -!- b_jonas_ has changed nick to b_jonas. 12:28:01 -!- boily has quit (Quit: WACKY CHICKEN). 12:45:08 -!- xfix has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:47:11 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 12:54:54 -!- xfix has joined. 12:59:57 -!- augur_ has changed nick to augur. 13:09:46 -!- copumpkin has joined. 13:15:16 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:33:09 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 13:42:28 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:15:52 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 14:16:01 -!- augur has joined. 14:20:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 14:30:59 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 14:39:57 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:58:35 -!- `^_^v has joined. 15:15:52 -!- nitrix_ has changed nick to nitrix. 15:49:52 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:54:04 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:57:26 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 16:17:26 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:19:27 Does the format support ligatures so that you can select glyph in such way? 16:25:51 zzo38: in theory the TTF/OTF formats do support that, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if \oren\ could actually emit the right TTF/OTF for that. BDF doesn't support that. 16:37:02 -!- oerjan has joined. 16:46:53 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 16:56:40 [wiki] [[Reverse]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51101 * Oerjan * (+21) Redirect 17:01:09 Does the original program works on your computer? <-- nope, thanks 17:22:57 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:33:33 <\oren\> b_jonas: I plan to figure it out eventually 17:34:37 \oren\: great! what other font format stuff do you plan to figure out eventually as well? bitmap and graymap fonts in TTF? variant glyphs, including language and writing direction specific ones? 17:34:59 variable width fonts including kerning? 17:35:55 the scary (for me) part in figuring out some of this stuff is that you'd have to test the font file with various font rendering backends, many of which only run on particular operating systems 17:36:29 and that when your font works in one implementation but not the other, you won't get sane error messages 17:36:58 you need to test the microsoft and adobe software, which you can't easily debug 17:38:23 <\oren\> the main things on my to do list are extra accents, getting indic/arabic shapes to work on all OS's 17:38:57 oh... so no true bitmap stuff? 17:39:03 or have you already got that working? 17:40:05 <\oren\> TTF bitmaps seem to only work on Linux for me, and on Linux I can use other formats than TTF 17:40:56 yeah, I said it was hard to debug 17:41:09 ok, thanks for the info 17:41:14 <\oren\> specifically, for xterm I just used bdftopcf 17:44:33 <\oren\> currently, the problem I'm attempting to solve is eliminating fontforge from the BDF to TTF conversion process 17:45:07 oh, also, I'd like a latin letter e with diaresis and acute accent (ë́) (and its uppercase version just in case), which I think the above list doesn't imply 17:45:30 \oren\: are you using that newfangled font creation library? I dunno what its name is 17:45:43 <\oren\> the current process is I use my own program to do the conversion, then open the resulting TTF in font forge and save it. 17:45:56 the one that someone started to write when they decided fontforge is so old and complicated it's easier to just rewrite everything 17:46:19 <\oren\> No, my program isn't using any libraries it just does everything the hard way 17:47:06 <\oren\> see http://orenwatson.be/bdf2ttf.c.htm 17:47:15 I see 17:47:54 <\oren\> It outputs a TTF that isn't quite valid enough for Microsoft 17:48:09 <\oren\> but I'm almost there I think 17:48:12 (I think it's called TruFont) 17:53:20 <\oren\> On the other hand since it is only designed for my particular font that means I can put a lot of the values directly into the code and it's quite a short program 17:53:39 yeah 17:56:01 <\oren\> ok so Apple says my hmtx table is crappy. 17:56:18 <\oren\> and I think I know why. It has a length of 81918 17:56:33 <\oren\> which, crucially, doesn't divide by 4 17:57:10 I don't know what that means, but sure 17:57:37 <\oren\> well TTF uses these 32 bit hashes for validation 17:57:53 validation? validation of what? 17:58:09 <\oren\> i dunno. data, i guess 17:58:15 -!- Zarutian has joined. 17:58:53 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:58:55 -!- Zarutian has joined. 17:59:06 oh, so now you're hunting down the half a dozen very stupid typos that are in the parts of the code where you wouldn't guess there could be a problem 17:59:51 <\oren\> yeah. I'm not sure what the problem with the hmtx table is, but at least apple is kind enough to tell me WHY they refuse to install my font 18:01:05 <\oren\> the loca table has a length of 83596 18:02:40 -!- dok has joined. 18:06:10 that's at least nice 18:08:59 ☺ 18:09:07 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:09:13 Hi FreeFull. 18:09:45 Heya 18:11:45 ☺ 18:17:07 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 18:23:30 <\oren\> hooray, now apple only thinks my name table is bad. 18:28:40 [wiki] [[Rain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51102&oldid=51096 * Dok * (+596) Adds Factorial and Fibonacci examples 18:44:25 -!- furozo has joined. 18:59:48 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 19:21:59 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 19:22:51 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:23:00 -!- `^_^v has joined. 19:31:44 -!- kiki` has joined. 19:36:51 -!- furozo has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 19:50:45 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:56:45 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:56:54 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 20:13:30 -!- Cale has joined. 20:22:58 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:30:58 -!- nycs has joined. 20:32:17 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:32:31 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...). 20:36:45 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:59:12 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 21:06:36 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 21:15:27 -!- Zarutian has joined. 21:15:38 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:16:23 -!- Zarutian has joined. 21:16:28 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:28:18 <\oren\> maybe elon dug his tunnels too greedily, and too deep, and they have discovered that balrogs can be tamed and used to haul cargo into space 21:28:24 <\oren\> Space X announcement is late 21:31:04 <\oren\> and it's not even luxury. compared to proper italian coffee starbucks is like diarhea in a dixie cup 21:33:19 -!- erkin has joined. 21:35:01 There's a sign on a fence I see on my commute that says "Danger" and "Deep excavations". I'm worried about a possible balrog threat. 21:35:23 The sign's gone now, incidentally. 21:36:01 But I couldn't go past it a single time without thinking about Balrogs. 21:38:41 speaking of balrogs, they released a trailer for the sequel to that shadow of mordor game 21:39:26 it looks like an even greater feat of missing the point of lotr than the first one 21:41:05 int-e: And? 21:41:17 -!- augur has joined. 21:51:50 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 22:04:55 <\oren\> Manned Dragon to do lunar tourist flight! 22:04:57 <\oren\> the spacex flight is with two people 22:05:02 <\oren\> it's rumored to be a couple on their honeymoon 22:08:24 -!- dok has left ("WeeChat 1.0.1"). 22:18:50 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 22:19:48 <\oren\> it will be the first people to go to the moon in 45 years 22:19:59 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:46:00 alice and ralph Kramden? 23:12:32 -!- LKoen has joined. 23:13:22 perhaps they could call this launcher a cow, instead 23:20:31 A cowlauncher 23:21:36 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 23:23:05 -!- tromp__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:23:36 Implementation of /// with JavaScript: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/slashes.js 23:23:48 -!- tromp has joined. 23:24:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 23:25:41 Can I run that in my web browser? 23:27:01 Not as is, but if you replace the input and output, and add a HTML to go with it, then you can. 23:29:06 (If you are on Mozilla then you can also use XUL instead of HTML) 23:29:51 Isn't XUL deprecated? 23:31:19 I still think though there are some things that XUL is better for than HTML is 23:35:51 -!- Jafet has quit (Quit: Jafet). 23:36:09 -!- Jafet has joined. 23:43:12 -!- boily has joined. 23:47:28 -!- nycs has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 23:59:27 -!- hppavilion1 has joined.