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00:16:32 <zzo38> Is there a such thing as a 2017-02-29? I don't think so?
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00:20:08 <oerjan> no, 2017 is not divisible by 4.
00:20:51 <zzo38> Yes it is what I thought
00:22:17 <HackEgo> February 2017 \ Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa \ 1 2 3 4 \ 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 \ 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 \ 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 \ 26 27 28
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00:23:52 <fizzie> oerjan: Maybe there is a 29th but they've just been keeping it a secret.
00:24:35 <HackEgo> the them//Information on the THEM has been removed for national security reasons.
00:25:19 <boily> the weather is conspirational tonight...
00:26:01 <lambdabot> ENVA 020020Z 13008KT CAVOK M04/M07 Q0988 RMK WIND 670FT 11008KT
00:28:05 <int-e> shachaf: meh, The Witless is getting tedious; 436+70 (still 11 lasers), but I'm missing something fairly big underground, I think.
00:28:27 <lambdabot> CYUL 020000Z 04005KT 5SM -RA BR BKN005 OVC020 05/04 A2920 RMK SF6SC2 SLP890
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00:32:07 <shachaf> int-e: Did you turn on the puzzle the person at the bottom is holding?
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00:36:41 <shachaf> I ended up seeing a spoiler about how to do that before I even got there.
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00:38:13 <shachaf> If you want I can tell you in what area you do that, I guess.
00:38:33 <int-e> not yet interested
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00:48:52 <adu> how are you?
00:56:51 <lambdabot> Local time for int-e is Thu Mar 2 01:56:45 2017
00:57:13 <lambdabot> Local time for shachaf is Wed Mar 1 16:57:10 2017
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01:04:02 <boily> _11: h_11o. how's your second day here?
01:06:33 <_11> hiya boily
01:06:48 <_11> well I've been doing more esoteric type things in Rust
01:07:12 <_11> but I failed to trick the compiler into assuming some interface bounds :(
01:07:31 <_11> so overall, yeah, having fun
01:07:44 <_11> I'm a Taneb invention, hence my presence here
01:08:27 <boily> being Tanebvented is a great honour.
01:09:30 <HackEgo> Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths. He never invents anything involving sex.
01:09:34 <_11> Ah, I'm normally _46 or _46bit.
01:09:43 <_11> _11 is a bit of a Stranger Things tribute.
01:09:49 <HackEgo> _46bit is a slightly-uptight public-schooled Brit. Taneb invented him.
01:10:06 <shachaf> public school means private school, right?
01:10:19 <_11> good lord, I don't know how to respond to that description
01:10:31 <_11> at least it doesn't claim I'm straight
01:11:32 <oerjan> . o O ( straight from public school )
01:14:15 <boily> on a scale from 1 to bonsaï, how many zebras would you fit in an amphitheatre?
01:14:41 <_11> is that an operating theatre for amputations?
01:15:02 <oerjan> a very amphiguous question
01:15:40 <_11> I suppose on many grounds I'd choose to call an amphitheatre filled while containing 0 zebras
01:16:37 <fungot> boily: i don't see enough of the math faculty, so it's missing the final " ( up)"
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01:37:39 <shachaf> int-e: I haven't jammed in a while because I haven't been rebooting to Windows.
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02:05:42 <HackEgo> comedogenic//comedogenic is something that causes comedy when applied to the skin, e.g. an accelerated cream pie in parabolic motion.
02:10:06 * Zarutian hands boily a 1600 metres of sturdy nylon rope (non-elastic), a mop, two hyped up bulldogs and a clown nose (purple)
02:11:19 * boily has a sudden urge to rob a bank...
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02:12:58 <zzo38> Have you ever stopped robbing banks?
02:16:05 <boily> are there practice banks where you can try out how it feels to perform a heist?
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02:28:39 <HackEgo> 3/3:ow indented source code is.
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03:42:19 <\oren\> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
03:42:31 <\oren\> POLAND WHAT THE FUKC R U DOIN
03:42:35 <\oren\> https://snag.gy/QKnMct.jpg
03:43:25 <\oren\> I didn't know it was even possible for this to happen
03:45:22 <\oren\> Poland annexed most of germany, then got trounced by USSR and lost their east half
03:45:26 <\oren\> then germany demanded the west half of poland
03:45:31 <\oren\> and poland, for some reason gave it to them despite russia backing them up
03:45:35 <\oren\> so now poland's territory consists of "germany, except berlin"
03:46:23 <\oren\> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa
03:47:43 <\oren\> poland has zero core states
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04:23:22 <sirnaysayer> then I can do CK2 - EU4 - VIC3 savegame conversions
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05:35:41 <\oren\> ok, time to get poland to be a democracy again
05:37:32 <\oren\> Yes. I'm playing as democratic Mussolini
05:40:12 <\oren\> ...and for some reason a communist insurrection in India
05:54:11 <HackEgo> You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off!
06:07:15 <\oren\> ok, if I guarantee the independence of Aghanistan I can start invading the USSR
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11:00:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Jafetish * uploaded "[[File:Trajedy - offset transforms.png]]": Some basic offset transforms in [[Trajedy]].
11:02:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Trajedy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51160&oldid=51157 * Jafetish * (+62) /* Storage */ add diagram
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12:58:05 <pledis> who heres fucking knows warosu
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14:27:53 <b_jonas> \oren\: add 桂 to your font
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14:51:05 <Zarutian> owh loardy! These people, these people they just make me so mad.
14:51:55 <Zarutian> They think they are doing the world good but they are just making it more bad
14:52:41 <Zarutian> With velhement rightousness they try to defend those acts but it just so sad
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14:55:17 <Zarutian> Usually ultra religious yet self-blaphemous they spew forward their hate blinded by false simplicity in face of complex proglems.
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17:30:19 <\oren\> b_jonas: it will be in the next release tongiht
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18:11:38 <HackEgo> d \ Yield: 6 Servings \ \ 5 ea Cloves \ 1 c Olive oil \ 1 ts Vanilla extract \ 1/4 ts Pepper \ 1/4 c Olive oil \ 1 tb Creme de carrots \ 2 c Cooked ribs \ Crumbled sausage: \ 2 tb Worcestershire sauce \ 1 ts Salt \ 1 ts Cinnamon \ 3/4 c Dijon mustard \ 1/2 ts Oregano \ 2 ts Sugar \ 1 ts Gelatin shortening \ 1 ts Ground cinnamon \
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18:46:18 <\oren\> do british people really say "er"?
18:47:19 <APic> Germans mostly say „Ääääh…“ or „Ääähmmm…“
18:47:38 <APic> \oren\: So where do You live?
18:48:03 <APic> Also: Is Amazonaws related to „S3“?
18:49:33 <int-e> shachaf: do you know whether the suicide booth (below the mountain at the water level) in The Witness does anything beyond completely resetting the game state to zero?
18:49:52 <shachaf> int-e: No, I haven't even used it once.
18:50:38 <shachaf> Last time I was playing I had one pillar left to solve.
18:50:53 <shachaf> I heard a rumor that it reset the game so I decided to finish everything else before doing it.
18:51:03 <int-e> left row, last one... so evil to combine reflection with a cylinder?
18:51:15 <int-e> it's safe to solve the pillar
18:51:44 <shachaf> Pillar? Column? I don't know.
18:52:05 <int-e> or hmm, I guess row is fine in this context... tricky term when applied in 3 dimensions.
18:52:23 <shachaf> Oh, that's what you meant.
18:52:37 <shachaf> Anyway there were many other puzzles left in the mountain.
18:52:38 <int-e> yes, I only realized the confusions after pressing the return key
18:53:33 <int-e> yeah, you know I haven't found them yet. (I have not played since last night)
18:53:50 <shachaf> Did you turn on the puzzle in the room before the water room yet?
18:54:50 <int-e> I have mostly kept myself busy with finding more bonus puzzles. Some of those are quite nasty, and I guess I'm missing some even more evil ones that are hiding in plain sight.
18:55:13 <shachaf> They're really all over the place, aren't they.
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18:56:51 <int-e> how much of the game would break if you shifted the Sun up by 5 degrees? :P
18:57:23 <shachaf> I think it would primarily be the desert area.
18:58:24 <int-e> you're forgetting about all the shadows.
18:58:43 <shachaf> OK, a bunch of things would break.
18:59:04 <shachaf> Unfortunately it's impossible to ask "did you find X yet?" without potentially giving spoilers.
18:59:55 <int-e> I'm really trying to keep these remarks quite general.
19:07:13 <shachaf> int-e: Did you figure out the shipwreck area?
19:07:19 <shachaf> I didn't solve that puzzle.
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19:10:55 <quintopia> i really need to play this game. the speedrun looked sick.
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19:29:11 <shachaf> Watching someone else play it before you play it is probably a bad idea.
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19:41:01 <int-e> shachaf: I figured out something there.
19:41:32 <shachaf> I assume it's a door, at least.
19:42:57 <shachaf> Then what? Bonus puzzles? Recording?
19:43:43 <int-e> (to both actually)
19:44:22 <int-e> I also don't know whether there's a 12th laser. 11 is such an odd number.
19:46:38 <shachaf> int-e: For some reason gur ynfg pbybe chmmyr va gur ryringbe gbbx zr n ybg ybatre gb fbyir guna gur fnzr pbybe chmmyr va gur svefg pbybe ebbz.
19:46:46 <shachaf> I didn't realize they were identical until much later.
19:48:22 <shachaf> I was probably color-exhausted by then.
19:48:49 <shachaf> Also I solved the entire sun area without figuring out the actual rule for the suns.
19:48:57 <shachaf> I mean the sun symbol area.
19:49:26 <shachaf> I only figured it out in the last major area of the game.
19:59:30 <int-e> that sounds worth than deriving a winding rule instead of color separation...
20:00:27 <shachaf> I mean, my rule wasn't exactly wrong, it was just incomplete.
20:00:27 <int-e> well, go clockwise around one color, counterclockwise around the other
20:01:08 <int-e> it wasn't very firm yet, but it's something that kind of works for two colors and is impossible to generalize to more.
20:01:15 <shachaf> I thought it was "Rnpu nern zhfg unir rvgure mreb be gjb fhaf bs n cnegvphyne pbybe va vg".
20:02:11 <int-e> right, that's a fair approximation... but I think you had to violate it in that area already? maybe not.
20:02:21 <shachaf> Actually maybe I figured it out before the final area, there were some other places where it was relevant.
20:03:01 <shachaf> Yes, you had to violate it, but I think I got lucky with those puzzles or something so I didn't think about it very much.
20:08:07 <shachaf> Apparently the ship puzzle is supposed to be one of the hardest.
20:08:25 <shachaf> The invisible symmetry puzzles are kind of annoying.
20:09:01 <shachaf> On the other hand it's hard to quantify how hard the bonus puzzles are.
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20:44:22 <zzo38> I made a fragment program to imitate a PC text mode with OpenGL. The same memory format is used too. (Blinking text and cursor are currently not implemented.)
20:46:44 <b_jonas> zzo38: but the text cursor is important! implement that
20:47:06 <b_jonas> and make sure it's controlled by the same virtual registers on the video card with the same format too
20:47:22 <b_jonas> then you can use this as part of a VGA emulator for a virtual machine
20:57:08 <zzo38> MegaZeux (which does not use the same memory format as PC text mode) uses a separate fragment program for the cursor. (I may have preferred to put it in the same program instead, but I am not sure which way is actually better.)
20:59:43 <zzo38> Implementing the cursor with a separate program means that you have to keep track of the colour of the cursor though.
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22:22:25 <fizzie> Blarg. For the last some months, whenever I restart Chromium, it automatically downloads the file 571_Planck_CMB_with_foreground_emission_layers.mov, apparently as part of restoring the session. I've got a dozen copies of it already.
22:22:41 <fizzie> I've tried to close all tabs one by one, but it still does the download whenever it starts.
22:29:15 <HackEgo> English has two cases, upper and lower. Upper case agrees with the verb in person and number.
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22:38:53 <\oren\> fizzie: use firefox instead
22:43:41 <b_jonas> fizzie: isn't there some command-line option to start chrome without attempting to restore the previous session?
22:44:04 <b_jonas> fizzie: failing that, just mv the files that store the info about the previous session
22:46:32 <b_jonas> Question. Are there fonts that have variant glyphs for the six letters "ABCDEF" that have the same width as new style digits, so you can write hexadecimal numbers fixed width with them?
22:47:25 <\oren\> new style digits == capital numbers?
22:47:27 <b_jonas> I mean, Knuth uses the convention of writing hexadecimal numbers with a monospaced font.
22:47:54 <zzo38> Actually I think is not necessary to keep track of the cursor colour separately; it can be done without.
22:47:57 <\oren\> I just write eveything in monospace
22:48:16 <\oren\> Including an essay once
22:48:21 <zzo38> Even if you do use a separate vertex program and fragment program for that purpose
22:48:22 <shachaf> abcdef is a terrible convention for hexadecimal anyway.
22:49:19 <zzo38> shachaf: As "ten-tek five", I think is how it is done? I am not sure
22:49:19 <b_jonas> \oren\: everything? I don't like that solution, because a good proportional width font can make text in latin and similar scripts more easier to read.
22:49:35 <\oren\> alfa bravo charlie delta echo foxtrot
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22:50:14 <b_jonas> shachaf: what's your favourite convention?
22:50:22 <shachaf> Uppercase letters are worse than lowercase letters, though.
22:50:36 <shachaf> I don't know many conventions. It doesn't matter because I'm going to keep using this one anyway.
22:50:37 <\oren\> I like 123456789:;<=>?
22:52:46 <\oren\> I alos like base 32 tho
22:52:47 <b_jonas> \oren\: that makes sense, but I don't really like that
22:53:04 <b_jonas> \oren\: base 32 written how?
22:53:11 <zzo38> Another way I have seen is to write the digits upside-down if they are more than eight
22:53:28 <\oren\> @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_
22:54:54 <b_jonas> zzo38: what? upside down? which digits? how does that work?
22:55:03 <b_jonas> wouldn't that make 6 and 9 look the same?
22:55:50 <\oren\> b_jonas: I think he means that 9 would be followed by upside down 5, 4, 3 and 2
22:57:01 <\oren\> so something like 123456789Sh↋↊T
22:58:57 <b_jonas> \oren\: that way it doesn't look particularly good to me. digits mightbe hard to distinguish, esp in handwriting.
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23:29:26 <fizzie> b_jonas: \oren\: I assumed it would've been 012345678(7654321) where the part in () was upside-down.
23:30:36 <shachaf> How do you distinguish 3 from (3)?
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23:39:10 <zzo38> fizzie: Yes I think that is how they worked
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23:41:31 <oerjan> digital clock in game of life http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/111932
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