< 1488758414 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the* corner being the one for reciprocals. < 1488758581 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could always just forbid 2 and 3, though at this point the corner-starting gadget is starting to look better < 1488758586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51243&oldid=51242 5* 03Int-e 5* (+1833) 10Reverting revert (Oops, I guess the original gadget really does not work after all: while reciprocals are miraculously fine, non-reciprocals cause trouble.) < 1488758751 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically I believe the claim about having to transform to (p+q, p-q) is correct, since in order to avoid resonanance in all cases, one has to enter the zigzag gadeget at a corner. < 1488758788 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in any case it makes the story quite a bit simpler. < 1488758795 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for a proof) < 1488759506 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51244&oldid=51243 5* 03Int-e 5* (+270) 10/* The zig-zag divisibility test */ add some observations about initial gadget < 1488760376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1488760536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-proud < 1488760537 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet said 10h 44m 23s ago: I think this works: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Trajedy#Computational_class < 1488760676 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488760775 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I am determining whether the 1/5 restriction (and the (5,6) offset before reaching the x) in your gadget is necessary < 1488760812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh too much wiki < 1488760853 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1488760872 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears that by moving the initial reflector to a (2,3) offset, it still works but the even-numbered exits go to the other side of the tube < 1488760895 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and presumably, by increasing the offset the exits can be spaced further apart) < 1488760948 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and presumably, by increasing the offset the exits can be spaced further apart) < 1488760956 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, this isn't a shell < 1488761183 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I don't see much room for improvement without playing with the A's as well; a potentially fruitful idea would be to move the top right A further out diagonally. But it's all delicate, and it's getting... early. < 1488761263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck, but every + is replaced with the bee movie script14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51245&oldid=51230 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+300) 10/* Cheating */ More general < 1488761456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck, but every + is replaced with the bee movie script14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51246&oldid=51245 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+179) 10/* Doesn't the Bee Movie Script have . and ,? */ Possibly unambiguous? < 1488761492 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: final thought for today: Instead of (p+q, p-q) one could use (p+kq, p-kq) and space the zigzag mirrors k diagonal steps apart. < 1488761561 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way one wouldn't have to cover a whole 45 degree range of rays, but only a range of size atan(1/k). < 1488761636 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-171-198.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488761650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51247&oldid=51241 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+153) 10I see three < 1488761703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to check what you've achieved... < 1488762377 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488762880 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1488763182 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488764621 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488765776 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oerjan senpai < 1488765780 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy birthday < 1488765810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrongly remembering by birthday is imperfect tdnh < 1488765818 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot < 1488765820 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is it < 1488765828 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't u like 41-42 < 1488765838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my birthday is too perfect for you to grasp < 1488765843 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :46 < 1488765869 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn its been 3 years since you told me your age < 1488765875 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the world coming to < 1488765880 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh woe be it < 1488765883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you ever knew it, that should be enough of a hint) < 1488765884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sum &&& product) [1,2,23] < 1488765887 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (26,46) < 1488765907 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did oerdad < 1488765909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, your birthday < 1488765925 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made you a present 2 years ago < 1488765937 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I never gave it to you oerjan for I left < 1488765942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1488765945 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1488765950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1488765955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:cocoon//Cocoon was built by the fal'Cie, and floats above Gran Pulse. \ hockey//Hockey is okey, but parsley is gharsley. \ plan9//Plan9 is the precursor to Dante's Inferno, home of the Limbo programming language. \ algol//ALGOL stands for A Programming Language \ oren's font//\oren\'s font neoletters is http://www.orenwatson.be/fontde < 1488765960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1488765966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 allquotes < 1488765968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/497:1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 3) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 4) < 1488765969 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its an amethyst Klein's bottle < 1488765972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 n < 1488765974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:2/0:1/0:1/0:1/0:1/0: < 1488765978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1488765982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/5 < 1488765983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do \` "$cmd"; done | sport < 1488766013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 5 pwd < 1488766018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv < 1488766031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like it < 1488766037 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wof < 1488766039 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wot* < 1488766042 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 2 ls < 1488766046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:2/1:2/1:2/1:2/1:2/1: < 1488766405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51248&oldid=51244 5* 03Jafetish 5* (+331) 10/* Computational class */ try a more chronological explanation < 1488766481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51249&oldid=51248 5* 03Jafetish 5* (-16) 10/* Corrected zig-zag test */ < 1488766494 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUH < 1488766509 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been stuck on this one evoland2 room for like an hour < 1488766942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51250&oldid=51249 5* 03Jafetish 5* (+321) 10/* Notes */ int-e's MM notes < 1488767163 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? apl < 1488767165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. < 1488767239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits apl < 1488767242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mromän nortẗi mromän < 1488767256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg apl < 1488767258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5357:2015-05-05 learn APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. \ 5356:2015-05-05 learn APL stands for Algorithmic Language \ 5355:2015-05-05 learn APL is the programming language everyone secretely wants to use but can\'t admit it in public IRC channels. < 1488767268 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aapl < 1488767269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aapl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1488767333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` doat | grep Jafet < 1488767336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :847:2012-11-09 addquote I wonder if Red Alert 4 will use MMIX \ 863:2012-11-20 addquote `addquote `addquote 867 \ 999:2012-12-09 addquote The world needs better healthcare, social justice and wealth distribution, but a monads library for clojure surely won't hurt \ 1752:2013-01-25 how does a "DNA computer" work. von neumann machines? CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. \ 707) then they edited their own talk page comments after someone replied to it, and edited /th < 1488767491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 quote context < 1488767492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:and edited /the replier's comment/ so that it made sense in context \ 771) Do you think " `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not?" is worse, or not? \ 1242) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or < 1488767514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1488767515 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3:there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there < 1488767778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh more trajedy < 1488767790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was just managing to understand the zigzag
< 1488767832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, if a quote was added and then deleted, you can't tell that it was added from the fact that it's there anymore. < 1488767897 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if delquote deleted all quotes that referred to the existence of that quote? < 1488767921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :delquote also ought to adjust quotes that refer to other quotes by number. < 1488767934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well -- quotes really ought not to be numbered, or to maintain their numbers indefinitely. < 1488767952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think we have quotes that refer to other quotes by numbers < 1488767968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shouldn't anyway. except possibly as a one-off joke. < 1488767968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There definitely are. < 1488767979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least there are quotes that include the result of `quote < 1488767987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 quote '`quote.*HackEgo' < 1488767988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:305) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one \ 306) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) ` < 1488767991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok, but those quote the whole thing, so don't count. < 1488768002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1488768003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one thankfully only two \ 611) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks < 1488768006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1488768007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3: Well, in theory. \ 1158) `quote 1146 1146) OKAY < 1488768038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 quote 'quote \d+' < 1488768039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:661) `delquote 419 * HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * glogbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) \ 974) `quote 1000 \ 1158) `quote 1146 1146) OKAY < 1488768060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1146 < 1488768061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1146) Despite the various chess variants (even Chess 2), even ordinary FIDE chess is a fine playable game. But so can others be! < 1488768232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51251&oldid=51250 5* 03Jafetish 5* (-187) 10/* The zig-zag divisibility test */ remove badly wrong math < 1488768268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51252&oldid=51251 5* 03Jafetish 5* (+21) 10/* The zig-zag divisibility test */ < 1488768478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Jafetish 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Trajedy - zig-zag unfolded.png10]]": Fix wrong alignment < 1488768760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh changed _again_? < 1488768812 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1488768827 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do when waiting for long program to spit out something < 1488768909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51254&oldid=51252 5* 03Jafetish 5* (+101) 10/* The zig-zag divisibility test */ fix initial diagram < 1488768918 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I think the article is internally consistent now < 1488769020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i'm wondering if the zig-zag device could handle even q if you also used the _other_ side of the tube? < 1488769068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that aligns better with a grid containing the initial ray point < 1488769076 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yes < 1488769082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the unfolding mirror picture) < 1488769123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might complicate other things. < 1488769268 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you'd no longer have only two exits to care about. < 1488769338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't changed the device itself, have you? i'm still tracing the last part of it. < 1488769443 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a program to go through all possible games of 5-gomoku but it is not finishing < 1488769464 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the device seems to work, so I haven't had to change it < 1488769538 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't 5-gomoku the full sized gomoku? < 1488769568 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. I mean 5-5x5-gomoku < 1488769694 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try knuth's estimator < 1488769696 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ams.org/journals/mcom/1975-29-129/S0025-5718-1975-0373371-6/S0025-5718-1975-0373371-6.pdf < 1488773490 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, i won my great war of independence against those polish bastards < 1488773500 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I a no longer "Muscovy". I am now RUSSIA < 1488773689 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51255&oldid=51254 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+36) 10/* Corrected zig-zag test */ Fix annoying wrap < 1488773726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what Trajedy is. Maybe it ought to be a features esolang. < 1488773748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be trajic. < 1488773789 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :please no, I don't want to deal with trajedy derivatives < 1488773795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those animated gifs are of scow quality. < 1488773797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1488773800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you make them? < 1488773827 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kdenlive-to-gifsicle was a bit scowy, even with the gifsicle --lossy patch < 1488773846 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real scow is that the wiki doesn't allow webm or svg diagrams < 1488773981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this language looks pretty good. < 1488774360 0 :AndChat|639249!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1488774360 0 :Perenelle!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488774407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it seems to me that the construction fits a 1-register minsky machine as well as fractran. < 1488774429 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488774451 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has less restricted control flow. < 1488774469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*minsky machines have < 1488774583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51256&oldid=51255 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+14) 10/* Corrected zig-zag test */ Clarify and fix off-by-one error < 1488774618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it weren't lowest terms, it would escape earlier < 1488774659 0 :AndChat|639249!~AndChat63@199-15-222-253-pppoe.toledotel.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1488774680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you've already mentioned that minsky thing < 1488777100 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488778097 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a shorter Myth implementation: (m,y,t,h)=>{m=JSON.parse(m);for(y=m._;h=1;){for(t in m)if(h&&t!="_")y=y.replace(t,x=>m[h=0,t]);if(h)return y}} < 1488778437 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1488778526 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1488779218 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made one even more shorter, is: (m,y,t,h)=>{h=m=JSON.parse(m);for(y=m._;h;)for(t in h=0,m)if(!h&&t!="_")y=y.replace(t,x=>m[h=t]);return y} < 1488779407 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GOT HIGHLIGHTED < 1488779409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Myth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51257&oldid=36684 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+162) 10Shorten the implementation < 1488779432 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "Shorten the implementation" < 1488779491 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason the new version of the page is longer is because now both implementations are included. < 1488779592 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1 < 1488779593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" < 1488779598 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 2 < 1488779599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. < 1488779604 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1488779771 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1488779868 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1488780396 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think a better design might be if "" was the key for specifying the initial state instead of "_", which would make the program shorter by three bytes, well as allowing "_" to be a rewriting rule.) < 1488780404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote (1) < 1488780404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 10) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 11) First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, you know the rest. \ 12) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: First, invent the direct mind-computer inte < 1488780426 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote (42) < 1488780426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42) ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? \ 142) Vorpal: you can't plant spiders, duh! \ 242) elliott: there go my minutes of research!! \ 342) " elliott: Americans also have 20 m < 1488780460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote .42 < 1488780461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :142) Vorpal: you can't plant spiders, duh! \ 242) elliott: there go my minutes of research!! \ 342) " elliott: Americans also have 20 mile one-way commutes." <<< one-way commutes? you have like disposable jobs? \ 442) Having only been Catholic in the sense of being baptized that way, I still really < 1488780467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :durr < 1488780480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote .*42 < 1488780481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :933) my university spam filter thinks it's okay for someone i have never met to discuss "usd 2,142,728.00 dollars" with me and "NEED MY HELP" etc. however, inviting me to a conference? such a nigerian thing to do. < 1488780772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Myth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51258&oldid=36623 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+343) 10 < 1488783950 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf < 1488783971 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Myth < 1488784389 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488784905 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4b8f1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1488785334 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4b8f1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1488785442 0 :xfix!~konrad@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488786069 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488786983 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:694:2995:c22b:df99:7f57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1488788095 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: IIUC, your suggested move of the initial A would effectively pre-multiply the value by 1/2; for p/q with odd q that has a fairly predictable effect (odd outputs will end up on the other side of the tube, even outputs get divided by 2). < 1488788184 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1488788192 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a way to enable overtype mode in firefox ESR on linux < 1488788207 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1488788209 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik what I'll do < 1488788341 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now I need to start eliminating these pesky non-Muscovite cultures. < 1488790271 0 :xfix!~konrad@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1488791169 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488791467 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: btw, in order to get the numerator for all p/q, one could aim for transforming x into x/(1+4x), i.e., p/q into p/(q+4p), which changes neither the numerator nor the parity of the denominator, but maps (0,1) into (0,1/5). Not sure it's worth the extra gadgets, since you'll have to deal with a limited range anyway (the upper bound 1 is basically just as bad as the upper bound 1/5) < 1488792417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: \x -> x/(1+x) maps (0,infty) to (0,1) hth < 1488792475 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which combines to \x -> x/(1+5*x), i guess. < 1488792495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you care about parity, you could probably use 6 there. < 1488792622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's no linear fractional transformation that takes the whole real line to a bounded interval, though. < 1488793509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1488793925 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tel oerjan Yes, iterating \x -> x/(1+x) 4 times gives the x/(1+4x) I mentioned. < 1488793926 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1488794762 0 :b_jonas_!?@? NICK :b_jonas < 1488795536 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488797959 0 :gK-1wm-su!~jircii@185.112.82.26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488798197 0 :Guest22296!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488798198 0 :Guest22296!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488798240 0 :gK-1wm-su!~jircii@185.112.82.26 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1488799430 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c445:577b:6f46:aa79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488800408 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcusbiev2u537k.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1488802837 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c445:577b:6f46:aa79 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488805709 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcusbiev2u537k.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1488808196 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow... big clanks. < 1488808649 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488809197 0 :pixels!~pixels@216.186.213.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488809880 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://joust.pxtst.com/ online befunge jousting soon(tm)? < 1488809889 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :easter egg on the right < 1488810392 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :john oliver met the dalai lama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLY45o6rHm0 < 1488811931 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1488811988 0 :pixels!~pixels@216.186.213.77 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1488812005 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1488813757 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488814476 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488814923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1488815029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-fold < 1488815029 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 5h 51m 43s ago: Yes, iterating \x -> x/(1+x) 4 times gives the x/(1+4x) I mentioned. < 1488815162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :randall munroe isn't very good at updating his blag < 1488815240 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf < 1488815243 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :HM < 1488815248 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopps < 1488815248 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :caps < 1488815256 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :need ideas for an esoteric markup language < 1488815258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwop < 1488815271 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1488815272 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwop < 1488815311 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, although he has posted today's comic not too late < 1488815329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't _actually_ a markup suggestion, although feel free to use it anyhow. < 1488815364 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither are the foglios, lately. although not as bad as randall, yet. < 1488815451 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! this code makes zero sense! I think it abuses some undocumented behavior < 1488815473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone loves nicely documented interfaces < 1488815620 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this function does what it does" < 1488815790 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :function f() { f() } < 1488815806 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1488815823 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was using it as an idea for a programming language < 1488817114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QWOP14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51259 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+842) 10OW1P1W1OW0P0 < 1488817242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QWOP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51260&oldid=51259 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+172) 10/* Examples */ < 1488817287 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada. < 1488817341 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the clanks look unfamiliar to me < 1488817367 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it my bad memory or are they new? < 1488817379 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is there an explaingg website?) < 1488817391 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1488817399 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :clanks? < 1488817432 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know there's a wikia wiki but does it discuss the latest strips anywhere...) < 1488817459 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(never mind. they do.) < 1488817469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the brown ones look similar to the gargoyles colette summoned http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20170127 < 1488817515 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. bad memory it is. < 1488817533 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, the wikia doesn't yet have a page for today's comic) < 1488817656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green one is somewhat similar to ones at the voltaire family house http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20150909 < 1488817695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: clanks is the term girl genius uses for its steampunk robots < 1488817719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of which are literally clockwork < 1488817729 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1488817744 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: isn't there a forum for that comic strip, where you can sometimes find explanations related to the current comic buried under a lot of other post? < 1488817744 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you could just call them steampunk robots < 1488817748 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yay for complexity < 1488817766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: well it wouldn't make sense in the story < 1488817787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an alternate history, and i don't think we're beyond early 1900s at the latest < 1488817792 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1488817795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. like http://forums.xkcd.com/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=378731ef437e3510663e2f4924a31d1d or https://forums.questionablecontent.net/ or the Irregular Webcomic forums < 1488817809 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1488817849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :robot _might_ make sense for someone slavic, but the term was not chosen in that world. < 1488817863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"punk" makes no sense whatsoever. < 1488817881 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: perhaps. I was looking for something semi-organized. Maybe I'm asking too much. < 1488817895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some of the mad scientists clearly understand electricity, so it's not all steam. < 1488817974 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :clank clank < 1488817996 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, the best genre is clockpunk, where the Greeks invented the first AGI. < 1488818021 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: steampunk stuff can still use sparks and Jacob's lanterns, right? it just can't use electronics, or use electricity efficiently < 1488818052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: that may well have happened in this world, one of the "sparks" (mad scientists) lived in ancient athens. < 1488818095 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1488818098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the paris control network has been revealed to be electric. < 1488818151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it may be the most modern city on the planet - e.g. it has cars. < 1488818279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not very steamy steampunk < 1488818286 0 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488818295 0 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1488818303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's dieselpunk too. paris of girl genius might be close to that. < 1488818319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i haven't really read that stuff) < 1488818398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, one of the protagonists has invented the first airplanes. other people use airships. < 1488818457 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: why, what will replace electricity then? < 1488818546 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there also atompunk, for robots powered by microfusion reactors? < 1488818576 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nuclear submarines and satellites powered by thermal batteries with a swab of radioactive material in them? < 1488818847 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: DNA computing seems kinda promising < 1488818854 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, quantum computers might not use electrons < 1488818866 0 :nbrothaaa2!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1488818867 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1488818874 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a language that quantum computers run < 1488818874 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488818916 0 :nbrothaaa2!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Client Quit < 1488819001 0 :nbrothaaa2!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1488819004 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fbpsrfyjvmpxfpbd JOIN :#esoteric < 1488819017 0 :nbrothaaa2!?@? NICK :h0rsep0we < 1488819020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: nah, I don't buy DNA computing. < 1488819021 0 :h0rsep0we!?@? NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1488819068 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what about quantum computing? < 1488819092 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, why not < 1488819103 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exponential < 1488819113 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: that's not really an answer. what will you see in machines other than electronics, if some machines use quantum computing? < 1488819136 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the reproduction of a bacteria to crack a pgp key < 1488819154 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :1*2*3*4*5*6*7 < 1488819156 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1488819174 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA computing or soap bubble computing could be an answer, if you really believed that you could use those for quantum computations, but I personally don't think that's likely < 1488819175 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, quantum computing =/= electricity. you said what will replace electricity; I said quantum computing or DNA computing will. < 1488819405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51261&oldid=50265 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+30) 10QWOP < 1488819446 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :QWOP looks kinda like a slightly more useful version of HQ9+ :P < 1488819458 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the same Q command as HQ9+ < 1488819731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51262&oldid=51203 5* 03Get52 5* (+88) 10 < 1488819733 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valentina Tereshkova, the first woman in space, is 80 years old today < 1488819756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51263&oldid=51206 5* 03Get52 5* (+63) 10 < 1488819760 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergh < 1488819779 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was gonna create a HQ9+ interpreter in QWOP but realized just how long it would be < 1488819780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51264&oldid=51263 5* 03Get52 5* (+3) 10 < 1488819816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51265&oldid=51264 5* 03Get52 5* (+17) 10 < 1488820669 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, this is ugly, I need to either special case the first iteration or leave an ugly bug that can't be worked aroudn < 1488820985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51266&oldid=49901 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+19) 10/* Cheating Quines */ Q < 1488821329 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wthxiyocheuvgovq QUIT :Excess Flood < 1488821579 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-phntwqpablwtbxty JOIN :#esoteric < 1488821709 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of my Kerbal rockets could be considered atompunk because I pretty much put a nuclear reactor into event he rovers < 1488822466 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1488823258 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488823620 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :adfs < 1488825242 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488825245 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1488825252 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :does QWOP count as a joke language or a normal esolang? < 1488825314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51267&oldid=51224 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+24) 10added QWOP and Oracle < 1488825539 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I posted that golf code I was talking about on Friday: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/112163/6691 < 1488825555 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Oracle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51268&oldid=51229 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+26) 10Added to uncomputable category < 1488825665 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488825708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51269&oldid=51247 5* 03Int-e 5* (+345) 10 < 1488825727 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c445:577b:6f46:aa79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488825853 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488825959 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to wit, http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/merge2.png < 1488826057 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:c445:577b:6f46:aa79 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488826092 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess you can actually focus four inputs on a single Q anyway. < 1488826388 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1488826454 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488826457 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1488826830 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8F1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1488827111 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... soem of the most common computers of the 1940's were analog bombsights < 1488827159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about a general analogue programming language < 1488827173 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an abstract analogue computer < 1488827319 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all your inputs and outputs are numbers between 1 and -1 < 1488827331 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe just 1 and 0 < 1488827624 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1488827697 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1488827970 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the idea is you set up a (potentially very large) "analogue circuit" that includes operations like addition, multiplication, subtraction, but also with hysteresis and such < 1488828116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data can be read from tapes as continuous waveforms rather than individual datapoints < 1488828283 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would mean it's easy to compute for example the position of a missile given accelermoter data, but hard to output hello world < 1488828323 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you would need to figure out how to aim the beam of the cathode ray tube into the shape of the letters) < 1488828458 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless of course, you prepared a tape with the right beam deflections < 1488829153 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf < 1488829234 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:DanielJohnBenton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51270&oldid=51092 5* 03DanielJohnBenton 5* (+274) 10additions < 1488829278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:DanielJohnBenton14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51271&oldid=51270 5* 03DanielJohnBenton 5* (+65) 10link < 1488829762 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1488829800 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1488829964 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1488830183 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1488830287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Int-e 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Trajedy - extensible merge.png10]]" < 1488830622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51273&oldid=51269 5* 03Int-e 5* (+697) 10 < 1488830993 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1488831102 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488831290 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1488831429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51274&oldid=51273 5* 03Int-e 5* (-6) 10fix broken input 1 < 1488831454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Int-e 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Trajedy - extensible merge.png10]]" < 1488831569 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1488831690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Trajedy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51276&oldid=51274 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10oops, I did it again < 1488831722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evenint-e < 1488831747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Int-e 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Trajedy - extensible merge.png10]]" < 1488831772 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it now < 1488831776 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1488832138 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488832899 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1488834027 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1488834062 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488834879 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1488835241 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488835263 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488838047 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1488838058 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1488838390 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1488838798 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488838866 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1488839158 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488841027 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8F1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1488841041 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1488841497 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1488841813 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488841902 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1488841904 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads//Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. < 1488841959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1488842069 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloochaf. anything interesting happened over the weekend? < 1488842164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw some pooches < 1488842174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uns cabots < 1488842224 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing pooches is good. < 1488842227 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :des cabots. < 1488842857 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488842887 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488843258 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1488843473 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1488843491 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488843509 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1488843609 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488844662 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1488844663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marmite//Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1488844682 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd marmite//s/group/hive/ < 1488844685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marmite//Marmite is a hive mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1488844691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg marmite < 1488844692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10354:2017-03-06 slwd marmite//s/group/hive/ \ 3672:2013-09-07 learn Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1488844707 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't had marmite yet.