00:00:14 *the* corner being the one for reciprocals. 00:03:01 we could always just forbid 2 and 3, though at this point the corner-starting gadget is starting to look better 00:03:06 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51243&oldid=51242 * Int-e * (+1833) Reverting revert (Oops, I guess the original gadget really does not work after all: while reciprocals are miraculously fine, non-reciprocals cause trouble.) 00:05:51 So basically I believe the claim about having to transform to (p+q, p-q) is correct, since in order to avoid resonanance in all cases, one has to enter the zigzag gadeget at a corner. 00:06:28 and in any case it makes the story quite a bit simpler. 00:06:35 (for a proof) 00:18:26 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51244&oldid=51243 * Int-e * (+270) /* The zig-zag divisibility test */ add some observations about initial gadget 00:32:56 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:35:36 @messages-proud 00:35:37 Jafet said 10h 44m 23s ago: I think this works: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Trajedy#Computational_class 00:37:56 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 00:39:35 int-e: I am determining whether the 1/5 restriction (and the (5,6) offset before reaching the x) in your gadget is necessary 00:40:12 argh too much wiki 00:40:53 -!- hppavilion2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:41:12 it appears that by moving the initial reflector to a (2,3) offset, it still works but the even-numbered exits go to the other side of the tube 00:41:35 (and presumably, by increasing the offset the exits can be spaced further apart) 00:42:28 (and presumably, by increasing the offset the exits can be spaced further apart) 00:42:36 oops, this isn't a shell 00:46:23 Jafet: I don't see much room for improvement without playing with the A's as well; a potentially fruitful idea would be to move the top right A further out diagonally. But it's all delicate, and it's getting... early. 00:47:43 [wiki] [[Talk:Brainfuck, but every + is replaced with the bee movie script]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51245&oldid=51230 * Oerjan * (+300) /* Cheating */ More general 00:50:56 [wiki] [[Talk:Brainfuck, but every + is replaced with the bee movie script]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51246&oldid=51245 * Oerjan * (+179) /* Doesn't the Bee Movie Script have . and ,? */ Possibly unambiguous? 00:51:32 Jafet: final thought for today: Instead of (p+q, p-q) one could use (p+kq, p-kq) and space the zigzag mirrors k diagonal steps apart. 00:52:41 That way one wouldn't have to cover a whole 45 degree range of rays, but only a range of size atan(1/k). 00:53:56 -!- krok_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:54:10 [wiki] [[Talk:Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51247&oldid=51241 * Oerjan * (+153) I see three 00:55:03 Now to check what you've achieved... 01:06:17 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:14:40 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 01:19:42 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:43:41 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 02:02:56 Hello oerjan senpai 02:03:00 Happy birthday 02:03:30 wrongly remembering by birthday is imperfect tdnh 02:03:38 I forgot 02:03:40 when is it 02:03:48 Aren't u like 41-42 02:03:58 my birthday is too perfect for you to grasp 02:04:03 46 02:04:29 Damn its been 3 years since you told me your age 02:04:35 what is the world coming to 02:04:40 Oh woe be it 02:04:43 (if you ever knew it, that should be enough of a hint) 02:04:44 > (sum &&& product) [1,2,23] 02:04:47 (26,46) 02:05:07 I did oerdad 02:05:09 oh, your birthday 02:05:25 I made you a present 2 years ago 02:05:37 But I never gave it to you oerjan for I left 02:05:42 shocking 02:05:45 Yep 02:05:50 `5 w 02:05:55 1/2:cocoon//Cocoon was built by the fal'Cie, and floats above Gran Pulse. \ hockey//Hockey is okey, but parsley is gharsley. \ plan9//Plan9 is the precursor to Dante's Inferno, home of the Limbo programming language. \ algol//ALGOL stands for A Programming Language \ oren's font//\oren\'s font neoletters is http://www.orenwatson.be/fontde 02:06:00 hmm 02:06:06 `1 allquotes 02:06:08 1/497:1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 3) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 4) 02:06:09 Its an amethyst Klein's bottle 02:06:12 `5 n 02:06:14 1/1:2/0:1/0:1/0:1/0:1/0: 02:06:18 scow 02:06:22 `cat bin/5 02:06:23 cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do \` "$cmd"; done | sport 02:06:53 `5 5 pwd 02:06:58 1/1:1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ 1/1:/hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv \ /hackenv 02:07:11 that's more like it 02:07:17 Wof 02:07:19 Wot* 02:07:22 `5 2 ls 02:07:26 1/2:2/1:2/1:2/1:2/1:2/1: 02:13:25 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51248&oldid=51244 * Jafetish * (+331) /* Computational class */ try a more chronological explanation 02:14:41 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51249&oldid=51248 * Jafetish * (-16) /* Corrected zig-zag test */ 02:14:54 GUH 02:15:09 i've been stuck on this one evoland2 room for like an hour 02:22:22 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51250&oldid=51249 * Jafetish * (+321) /* Notes */ int-e's MM notes 02:26:03 `? apl 02:26:05 APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. 02:27:19 `cwlprits apl 02:27:22 mromän nortẗi mromän 02:27:36 `dowg apl 02:27:38 5357:2015-05-05 learn APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. \ 5356:2015-05-05 learn APL stands for Algorithmic Language \ 5355:2015-05-05 learn APL is the programming language everyone secretely wants to use but can\'t admit it in public IRC channels. 02:27:48 `? aapl 02:27:49 aapl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 02:28:53 `` doat | grep Jafet 02:28:56 847:2012-11-09 addquote I wonder if Red Alert 4 will use MMIX \ 863:2012-11-20 addquote `addquote `addquote 867 \ 999:2012-12-09 addquote The world needs better healthcare, social justice and wealth distribution, but a monads library for clojure surely won't hurt \ 1752:2013-01-25 I don't get that first quote. 02:30:10 http://xhp.xwis.net/documents/MIX_Format.html 02:30:30 Oh, right. 02:30:36 I should've gotten that. 02:30:42 Obviously I did, once. 02:31:07 `quote context 02:31:08 108) how does a "DNA computer" work. von neumann machines? CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. \ 707) then they edited their own talk page comments after someone replied to it, and edited /th 02:31:31 `2 quote context 02:31:32 2/3:and edited /the replier's comment/ so that it made sense in context \ 771) Do you think " `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not?" is worse, or not? \ 1242) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or 02:31:54 `n 02:31:55 3/3:there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there 02:36:18 argh more trajedy 02:36:30 * oerjan was just managing to understand the zigzag 02:37:12 Hmm, if a quote was added and then deleted, you can't tell that it was added from the fact that it's there anymore. 02:38:17 what if delquote deleted all quotes that referred to the existence of that quote? 02:38:41 delquote also ought to adjust quotes that refer to other quotes by number. 02:38:54 Well -- quotes really ought not to be numbered, or to maintain their numbers indefinitely. 02:39:12 i don't think we have quotes that refer to other quotes by numbers 02:39:28 we shouldn't anyway. except possibly as a one-off joke. 02:39:28 There definitely are. 02:39:39 At least there are quotes that include the result of `quote 02:39:47 `1 quote '`quote.*HackEgo' 02:39:48 1/3:305) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one \ 306) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) ` 02:39:51 well ok, but those quote the whole thing, so don't count. 02:40:02 `n 02:40:03 2/3:quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one thankfully only two \ 611) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks 02:40:06 `n 02:40:07 3/3: Well, in theory. \ 1158) `quote 1146 1146) OKAY 02:40:38 `1 quote 'quote \d+' 02:40:39 1/1:661) `delquote 419 * HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * glogbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) \ 974) `quote 1000 \ 1158) `quote 1146 1146) OKAY 02:41:00 `quote 1146 02:41:01 1146) Despite the various chess variants (even Chess 2), even ordinary FIDE chess is a fine playable game. But so can others be! 02:43:52 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51251&oldid=51250 * Jafetish * (-187) /* The zig-zag divisibility test */ remove badly wrong math 02:44:28 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51252&oldid=51251 * Jafetish * (+21) /* The zig-zag divisibility test */ 02:47:58 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * Jafetish * uploaded a new version of "[[File:Trajedy - zig-zag unfolded.png]]": Fix wrong alignment 02:52:40 argh changed _again_? 02:53:32 <\oren\> hello 02:53:47 <\oren\> what do when waiting for long program to spit out something 02:55:09 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51254&oldid=51252 * Jafetish * (+101) /* The zig-zag divisibility test */ fix initial diagram 02:55:18 ok, I think the article is internally consistent now 02:57:00 Jafet: i'm wondering if the zig-zag device could handle even q if you also used the _other_ side of the tube? 02:57:48 because that aligns better with a grid containing the initial ray point 02:57:56 basically yes 02:58:02 (in the unfolding mirror picture) 02:58:43 although that might complicate other things. 03:01:08 since you'd no longer have only two exits to care about. 03:02:18 you haven't changed the device itself, have you? i'm still tracing the last part of it. 03:04:03 <\oren\> I made a program to go through all possible games of 5-gomoku but it is not finishing 03:04:24 the device seems to work, so I haven't had to change it 03:05:38 isn't 5-gomoku the full sized gomoku? 03:06:08 <\oren\> er. I mean 5-5x5-gomoku 03:08:14 you could try knuth's estimator 03:08:16 http://www.ams.org/journals/mcom/1975-29-129/S0025-5718-1975-0373371-6/S0025-5718-1975-0373371-6.pdf 04:11:30 <\oren\> Hooray, i won my great war of independence against those polish bastards 04:11:40 <\oren\> And now I a no longer "Muscovy". I am now RUSSIA 04:14:49 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51255&oldid=51254 * Oerjan * (+36) /* Corrected zig-zag test */ Fix annoying wrap 04:15:26 I don't know what Trajedy is. Maybe it ought to be a features esolang. 04:15:48 that would be trajic. 04:16:29 please no, I don't want to deal with trajedy derivatives 04:16:35 Those animated gifs are of scow quality. 04:16:37 :D 04:16:40 How did you make them? 04:17:07 kdenlive-to-gifsicle was a bit scowy, even with the gifsicle --lossy patch 04:17:26 the real scow is that the wiki doesn't allow webm or svg diagrams 04:19:41 Hmm, this language looks pretty good. 04:26:00 -!- AndChat|639249 has joined. 04:26:00 -!- Perenelle has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:26:47 Jafet: it seems to me that the construction fits a 1-register minsky machine as well as fractran. 04:27:09 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:27:31 which has less restricted control flow. 04:27:49 *minsky machines have 04:29:43 [wiki] [[Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51256&oldid=51255 * Oerjan * (+14) /* Corrected zig-zag test */ Clarify and fix off-by-one error 04:30:18 if it weren't lowest terms, it would escape earlier 04:30:59 -!- AndChat|639249 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:31:20 oh you've already mentioned that minsky thing 05:11:40 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 05:28:17 I made a shorter Myth implementation: (m,y,t,h)=>{m=JSON.parse(m);for(y=m._;h=1;){for(t in m)if(h&&t!="_")y=y.replace(t,x=>m[h=0,t]);if(h)return y}} 05:33:57 -!- atehwa has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:35:26 -!- atehwa has joined. 05:46:58 Now I made one even more shorter, is: (m,y,t,h)=>{h=m=JSON.parse(m);for(y=m._;h;)for(t in h=0,m)if(!h&&t!="_")y=y.replace(t,x=>m[h=t]);return y} 05:50:07 I GOT HIGHLIGHTED 05:50:09 [wiki] [[Myth]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51257&oldid=36684 * Zzo38 * (+162) Shorten the implementation 05:50:32 zzo38: "Shorten the implementation" 05:51:31 The reason the new version of the page is longer is because now both implementations are included. 05:53:12 `quote 1 05:53:13 1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" 05:53:18 `quote 2 05:53:19 2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. 05:53:24 Do you like this? 05:56:11 -!- atehwa has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:57:48 -!- atehwa has joined. 06:06:36 (I think a better design might be if "" was the key for specifying the initial state instead of "_", which would make the program shorter by three bytes, well as allowing "_" to be a rewriting rule.) 06:06:44 `quote (1) 06:06:44 1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 10) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 11) First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, you know the rest. \ 12) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: First, invent the direct mind-computer inte 06:07:06 `quote (42) 06:07:06 42) ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? \ 142) Vorpal: you can't plant spiders, duh! \ 242) elliott: there go my minutes of research!! \ 342) " elliott: Americans also have 20 m 06:07:40 `quote .42 06:07:41 142) Vorpal: you can't plant spiders, duh! \ 242) elliott: there go my minutes of research!! \ 342) " elliott: Americans also have 20 mile one-way commutes." <<< one-way commutes? you have like disposable jobs? \ 442) Having only been Catholic in the sense of being baptized that way, I still really 06:07:47 durr 06:08:00 `quote .*42 06:08:01 933) my university spam filter thinks it's okay for someone i have never met to discuss "usd 2,142,728.00 dollars" with me and "NEED MY HELP" etc. however, inviting me to a conference? such a nigerian thing to do. 06:12:52 [wiki] [[Talk:Myth]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51258&oldid=36623 * Zzo38 * (+343) 07:05:50 asdf 07:06:11 Myth 07:13:09 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:21:45 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:28:54 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 07:30:42 -!- xfix has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:41:09 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 07:56:23 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:14:55 Jafet: IIUC, your suggested move of the initial A would effectively pre-multiply the value by 1/2; for p/q with odd q that has a fairly predictable effect (odd outputs will end up on the other side of the tube, even outputs get divided by 2). 08:16:24 ugh 08:16:32 I need a way to enable overtype mode in firefox ESR on linux 08:16:47 wait 08:16:49 ik what I'll do 08:19:01 <\oren\> Ok, now I need to start eliminating these pesky non-Muscovite cultures. 08:51:11 -!- xfix has joined. 09:06:09 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:11:07 Jafet: btw, in order to get the numerator for all p/q, one could aim for transforming x into x/(1+4x), i.e., p/q into p/(q+4p), which changes neither the numerator nor the parity of the denominator, but maps (0,1) into (0,1/5). Not sure it's worth the extra gadgets, since you'll have to deal with a limited range anyway (the upper bound 1 is basically just as bad as the upper bound 1/5) 09:26:57 int-e: \x -> x/(1+x) maps (0,infty) to (0,1) hth 09:27:55 which combines to \x -> x/(1+5*x), i guess. 09:28:15 if you care about parity, you could probably use 6 there. 09:30:22 i think there's no linear fractional transformation that takes the whole real line to a bounded interval, though. 09:45:09 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 09:52:05 @tel oerjan Yes, iterating \x -> x/(1+x) 4 times gives the x/(1+4x) I mentioned. 09:52:06 Consider it noted. 10:06:02 -!- b_jonas_ has changed nick to b_jonas. 10:18:56 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:59:19 -!- gK-1wm-su has joined. 11:03:17 -!- Guest22296 has joined. 11:03:18 -!- Guest22296 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:04:00 -!- gK-1wm-su has quit (Excess Flood). 11:23:50 -!- augur has joined. 11:40:08 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 12:20:37 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:08:29 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 13:49:56 wow... big clanks. 13:57:29 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 14:06:37 -!- pixels has joined. 14:18:00 <^v> https://joust.pxtst.com/ online befunge jousting soon(tm)? 14:18:09 <^v> easter egg on the right 14:26:32 john oliver met the dalai lama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLY45o6rHm0 14:52:11 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 14:53:08 -!- pixels has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 14:53:25 -!- `^_^v has joined. 15:22:37 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:34:36 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:42:03 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:43:49 @messages-fold 15:43:49 int-e said 5h 51m 43s ago: Yes, iterating \x -> x/(1+x) 4 times gives the x/(1+4x) I mentioned. 15:46:02 randall munroe isn't very good at updating his blag 15:47:20 asdf 15:47:23 HM 15:47:28 oopps 15:47:28 caps 15:47:36 need ideas for an esoteric markup language 15:47:38 qwop 15:47:51 ooh 15:47:52 qwop 15:48:31 oerjan: yes, although he has posted today's comic not too late 15:48:49 that wasn't _actually_ a markup suggestion, although feel free to use it anyhow. 15:49:24 neither are the foglios, lately. although not as bad as randall, yet. 15:50:51 argh! this code makes zero sense! I think it abuses some undocumented behavior 15:51:13 everyone loves nicely documented interfaces 15:53:40 "this function does what it does" 15:56:30 function f() { f() } 15:56:46 :P 15:57:03 oerjan: I was using it as an idea for a programming language 16:18:34 [wiki] [[QWOP]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51259 * Rdococ * (+842) OW1P1W1OW0P0 16:20:42 [wiki] [[QWOP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51260&oldid=51259 * Rdococ * (+172) /* Examples */ 16:21:27 tada. 16:22:21 oerjan: the clanks look unfamiliar to me 16:22:47 is it my bad memory or are they new? 16:22:59 (is there an explaingg website?) 16:23:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:23:19 clanks? 16:23:52 (I know there's a wikia wiki but does it discuss the latest strips anywhere...) 16:24:19 (never mind. they do.) 16:24:29 int-e: the brown ones look similar to the gargoyles colette summoned http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20170127 16:25:15 oh, right. bad memory it is. 16:25:33 (also, the wikia doesn't yet have a page for today's comic) 16:27:36 the green one is somewhat similar to ones at the voltaire family house http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20150909 16:28:15 rdococ: clanks is the term girl genius uses for its steampunk robots 16:28:39 some of which are literally clockwork 16:28:49 cool 16:29:04 int-e: isn't there a forum for that comic strip, where you can sometimes find explanations related to the current comic buried under a lot of other post? 16:29:04 of course you could just call them steampunk robots 16:29:08 but yay for complexity 16:29:26 rdococ: well it wouldn't make sense in the story 16:29:47 it's an alternate history, and i don't think we're beyond early 1900s at the latest 16:29:52 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: Leaving). 16:29:55 eg. like http://forums.xkcd.com/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=378731ef437e3510663e2f4924a31d1d or https://forums.questionablecontent.net/ or the Irregular Webcomic forums 16:30:09 -!- `^_^v has joined. 16:30:49 robot _might_ make sense for someone slavic, but the term was not chosen in that world. 16:31:03 "punk" makes no sense whatsoever. 16:31:21 b_jonas: perhaps. I was looking for something semi-organized. Maybe I'm asking too much. 16:31:35 also some of the mad scientists clearly understand electricity, so it's not all steam. 16:32:54 clank clank 16:33:16 Clearly, the best genre is clockpunk, where the Greeks invented the first AGI. 16:33:41 oerjan: steampunk stuff can still use sparks and Jacob's lanterns, right? it just can't use electronics, or use electricity efficiently 16:34:12 rdococ: that may well have happened in this world, one of the "sparks" (mad scientists) lived in ancient athens. 16:34:55 -!- h0rsep0wer has joined. 16:34:58 b_jonas: the paris control network has been revealed to be electric. 16:35:51 of course it may be the most modern city on the planet - e.g. it has cars. 16:37:59 so it's not very steamy steampunk 16:38:06 -!- fizzie has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:38:15 -!- fizzie has joined. 16:38:23 there's dieselpunk too. paris of girl genius might be close to that. 16:38:39 (although i haven't really read that stuff) 16:39:58 also, one of the protagonists has invented the first airplanes. other people use airships. 16:40:57 rdococ: why, what will replace electricity then? 16:42:26 is there also atompunk, for robots powered by microfusion reactors? 16:42:56 and nuclear submarines and satellites powered by thermal batteries with a swab of radioactive material in them? 16:47:27 b_jonas: DNA computing seems kinda promising 16:47:34 also, quantum computers might not use electrons 16:47:46 -!- nbrothaaa2 has joined. 16:47:47 ooh 16:47:54 what about a language that quantum computers run 16:47:54 -!- h0rsep0wer has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:48:36 -!- nbrothaaa2 has quit (Client Quit). 16:50:01 -!- nbrothaaa2 has joined. 16:50:04 -!- kiki` has joined. 16:50:17 -!- nbrothaaa2 has changed nick to h0rsep0we. 16:50:20 rdococ: nah, I don't buy DNA computing. 16:50:21 -!- h0rsep0we has changed nick to h0rsep0wer. 16:51:08 b_jonas, what about quantum computing? 16:51:32 b_jonas, why not 16:51:43 it's exponential 16:51:53 rdococ: that's not really an answer. what will you see in machines other than electronics, if some machines use quantum computing? 16:52:16 you can use the reproduction of a bacteria to crack a pgp key 16:52:34 1*2*3*4*5*6*7 16:52:36 etc 16:52:54 DNA computing or soap bubble computing could be an answer, if you really believed that you could use those for quantum computations, but I personally don't think that's likely 16:52:55 b_jonas, quantum computing =/= electricity. you said what will replace electricity; I said quantum computing or DNA computing will. 16:56:45 [wiki] [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51261&oldid=50265 * Rdococ * (+30) QWOP 16:57:26 QWOP looks kinda like a slightly more useful version of HQ9+ :P 16:57:38 it has the same Q command as HQ9+ 17:02:11 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51262&oldid=51203 * Get52 * (+88) 17:02:13 <\oren\> Valentina Tereshkova, the first woman in space, is 80 years old today 17:02:36 [wiki] [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51263&oldid=51206 * Get52 * (+63) 17:02:40 ergh 17:02:59 I was gonna create a HQ9+ interpreter in QWOP but realized just how long it would be 17:03:00 [wiki] [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51264&oldid=51263 * Get52 * (+3) 17:03:36 [wiki] [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51265&oldid=51264 * Get52 * (+17) 17:17:49 argh, this is ugly, I need to either special case the first iteration or leave an ugly bug that can't be worked aroudn 17:23:05 [wiki] [[List of quines]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51266&oldid=49901 * Rdococ * (+19) /* Cheating Quines */ Q 17:28:49 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 17:32:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 17:35:09 <\oren\> most of my Kerbal rockets could be considered atompunk because I pretty much put a nuclear reactor into event he rovers 17:47:46 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 18:00:58 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:07:00 adfs 18:34:02 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:34:05 hm 18:34:12 does QWOP count as a joke language or a normal esolang? 18:35:14 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51267&oldid=51224 * Rdococ * (+24) added QWOP and Oracle 18:38:59 ais523: I posted that golf code I was talking about on Friday: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/112163/6691 18:39:15 [wiki] [[Oracle]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51268&oldid=51229 * Rdococ * (+26) Added to uncomputable category 18:41:05 -!- pikhq has joined. 18:41:48 [wiki] [[Talk:Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51269&oldid=51247 * Int-e * (+345) 18:42:07 -!- augur has joined. 18:44:13 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 18:45:59 oerjan: to wit, http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/merge2.png 18:47:37 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:48:12 and I guess you can actually focus four inputs on a single Q anyway. 18:53:08 -!- Zarutian has joined. 18:54:14 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:54:17 -!- Zarutian has joined. 19:00:30 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 19:05:11 <\oren\> hmm... soem of the most common computers of the 1940's were analog bombsights 19:05:59 <\oren\> I'm thinking about a general analogue programming language 19:06:13 <\oren\> for an abstract analogue computer 19:08:39 <\oren\> all your inputs and outputs are numbers between 1 and -1 19:08:51 <\oren\> or maybe just 1 and 0 19:13:44 yay 19:14:57 -!- otherbot has joined. 19:19:30 <\oren\> and then the idea is you set up a (potentially very large) "analogue circuit" that includes operations like addition, multiplication, subtraction, but also with hysteresis and such 19:21:56 <\oren\> data can be read from tapes as continuous waveforms rather than individual datapoints 19:24:43 <\oren\> this would mean it's easy to compute for example the position of a missile given accelermoter data, but hard to output hello world 19:25:23 <\oren\> (you would need to figure out how to aim the beam of the cathode ray tube into the shape of the letters) 19:27:38 <\oren\> unless of course, you prepared a tape with the right beam deflections 19:39:13 asdf 19:40:34 [wiki] [[User:DanielJohnBenton]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51270&oldid=51092 * DanielJohnBenton * (+274) additions 19:41:18 [wiki] [[User:DanielJohnBenton]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51271&oldid=51270 * DanielJohnBenton * (+65) link 19:49:22 -!- h0rsep0wer has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:50:00 -!- atehwa has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:52:44 -!- Cale has joined. 19:56:23 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 19:58:07 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Int-e * uploaded "[[File:Trajedy - extensible merge.png]]" 20:03:42 [wiki] [[Talk:Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51273&oldid=51269 * Int-e * (+697) 20:09:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:11:42 -!- augur has joined. 20:14:50 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:17:09 [wiki] [[Talk:Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51274&oldid=51273 * Int-e * (-6) fix broken input 1 20:17:34 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * Int-e * uploaded a new version of "[[File:Trajedy - extensible merge.png]]" 20:19:29 :/ 20:21:30 [wiki] [[Talk:Trajedy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51276&oldid=51274 * Int-e * (+0) oops, I did it again 20:22:02 good evenint-e 20:22:27 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * Int-e * uploaded a new version of "[[File:Trajedy - extensible merge.png]]" 20:22:52 I think I got it now 20:22:56 hi. 20:28:58 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:41:39 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 21:00:27 -!- nycs has joined. 21:01:02 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:14:39 -!- erkin has joined. 21:20:41 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:21:03 -!- augur has joined. 22:07:27 -!- nycs has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:07:38 -!- `^_^v has joined. 22:13:10 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 22:19:58 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:21:06 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 22:25:58 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:57:07 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:57:21 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...). 23:04:57 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 23:10:13 -!- boily has joined. 23:11:42 `wisdom 23:11:44 monads//Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. 23:12:39 true 23:14:29 helloochaf. anything interesting happened over the weekend? 23:16:04 i saw some pooches 23:16:14 uns cabots 23:17:04 seeing pooches is good. 23:17:07 des cabots. 23:27:37 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:28:07 -!- tromp has joined. 23:34:18 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 23:37:53 -!- Zarutian has joined. 23:38:11 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:38:29 -!- Zarutian has joined. 23:40:09 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:57:42 `wisdom 23:57:43 marmite//Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. 23:58:02 `slwd marmite//s/group/hive/ 23:58:05 marmite//Marmite is a hive mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. 23:58:11 `dowg marmite 23:58:12 10354:2017-03-06 slwd marmite//s/group/hive/ \ 3672:2013-09-07 learn Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. 23:58:27 haven't had marmite yet.