< 1489017620 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1489018309 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :La verdad estemos alertas de lo que viene http://www.google.co.ve/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DBuDMKINx-M8&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjbkYvvjsjSAhWmilQKHbR3CE4QtwIIOzAH&usg=AFQjCNGZ1oIIWXF8iC3_5QmHHelJH5KzjA < 1489018703 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-94-147.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1489018783 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-94-147.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489018954 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1489018955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pdf//PDF stands for Pretty Depressing Format. < 1489018989 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't agree more. I passion fruitly hate PDFs. < 1489019095 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489019123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits pdf < 1489019131 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän < 1489019138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with PDF? < 1489019199 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDF is full of stupid < 1489019201 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a horrible mess of random cross references with undocumented half-assed pseudo-features that may work in almost all readers almost all the time, sometimes. < 1489019339 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the embodiement of schizophrenia. when delving into its putrid innards you can feel in your soul the very bureaucratic essence that permeates its wretched labyrinthine layout. so many different teams and braindead decisions hurled at the format after eternal meetings... < 1489019433 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489019700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51311&oldid=51267 5* 03Mattmon666 5* (+37) 10Added Mostawesomeprogramminglanguage < 1489019805 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bletch. that language is bad. < 1489019865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch-dog format < 1489020196 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pooch < 1489020198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489020206 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: pooch? < 1489020206 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dear fnord i keep fnord things i said? < 1489020218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: un cabot hth < 1489020219 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you didn't answer my question, but it was fun. next time, just really interested.) no. < 1489020223 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you prefer PostScript? < 1489020453 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutellon. PS is saner. < 1489020474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochscow < 1489020506 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DVI is better < 1489020509 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, PDF is supposed to be 'intrepreted PostScript' but I do not believe it < 1489020592 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have heard that acronym as in Digital Video Interface and Double Video Interlace but not in the context of vector graphics or documents < 1489020618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDF is part PS, part unknown things, part JavaScript, part XML, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were some chopped beers in there. < 1489020622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is Gopher better than HTTP? < 1489020682 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: For some things yes < 1489020739 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489020742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But for other things HTTP is better, or at least would be if it weren't abused so much) < 1489020891 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not all other things, but some other things) < 1489020913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is HTTP abused? < 1489021109 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would prefer electronic communities distributed artifact|asset|blob storage where each thing in it is identified by the cryptographic hash(es) of its contents.
< 1489021417 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :bittorrent communities have distributed PDFs! with sha-1 hashes! < 1489021517 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a distributed PDF the same thing as a PDF of a distribution? < 1489021539 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fears the concept of a PDF of a distro
< 1489021568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a normal distro? < 1489021598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Zipf < 1489021599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1121) everything is either zipf, branford, poisson, gamma, or uniform. outside of that, it's a weird curve invented by sadistic statistics teachers. < 1489021698 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily would fear this, then https://www.alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/pocorgtfo02.pdf < 1489021744 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pocorgtfo? Proof of Concept Organisation Télévision Française de l'Ontario? < 1489021745 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Curious readers might want to run qemu-system-i386 -fda pocorgtfo02.pdf” < 1489021897 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, I'm not yet fearing it. < 1489021973 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fearing it now. < 1489021986 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way in hell am I piping that thing into qemu. < 1489022239 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1489022843 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1489023177 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've been thinking about creating some kind of "fantasy game console emulator". < 1489023197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you describe what that means? < 1489023211 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an emulator, except it's for a game console that's never really existed; it's one that was designed solely for this emulator. < 1489023236 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1489023243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the Java virtual machine, or the Z-machine? < 1489023251 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. like the PICO-8? < 1489023298 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What instruction set? An existing one, or a new one? < 1489023306 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489023330 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, something like that. < 1489023343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like the Z-machine? < 1489023354 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: PICO-8 was the inspiration, but doesn't that just use plain old Lua? < 1489023364 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not nearly as fun. < 1489023364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does one of the Zs in zzo38 stand for the Z-machine? < 1489023375 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The letters in "zzo38" stand for nothing < 1489023383 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd use an existing instruction set. The 8080 processor seems pretty nice. < 1489023415 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do like Z-machine and have written two implementations (one in C, and one in JavaScript), and partially made a third (in 6502 assembly language, for Famicom) < 1489023433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Inform 6? < 1489023437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Inform 7? < 1489023462 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like Inform much < 1489023492 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zilch is better < 1489023523 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is i7 an esolang < 1489023546 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard a lot about the Z-machine but I've never actually looked at the instruction set or anything. < 1489023622 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡Z! ¡El hombre con el sombrero nos envió! ¡Él nos contó muchas historias asombrosas! ¡Ho ho ho ho ho! < 1489023631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like spells whose names start with F? < 1489023637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example Frotz. < 1489023643 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a document http://zzo38computer.org/backup/zspec/zip_old.txt < 1489023679 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all of the spell names is start with F, it can be other letters too, but so is "frotz" one of the Zork spells too. < 1489023692 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which ones don't? < 1489023726 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also see http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/doc/tricky.txt it is the "Tricky Document" of Z-machine, with many ideas for optimizations and other stuff < 1489023778 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Many of the things in Tricky Document are things that probably nobody (or hardly anyone) has ever done before.) < 1489023837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like Zork: Grand Inquisitor? < 1489023845 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never played it < 1489023857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good. < 1489023884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you run graphical Microsoft Windows games? < 1489023890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so maybe you should try it. < 1489023928 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the Z-machine is kind of complicated compared to the 8080? < 1489023946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What axioms does the Zermelo machine support? < 1489023979 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1489024059 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am on Linux it can't run Windows program. < 1489024082 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, SCUMMVM may be able to run it, and possibly Wine also might < 1489024134 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme figure out how fast the 8080 was. < 1489024167 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other things, the axiom of choice, also known as the “Z's lemma” < 1489024173 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's suppose I just want to fill some memory with a value. What's the fastest way to do that? < 1489024206 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1489024210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: whoa whoa whoa, ScummVM supports ZGI < 1489024284 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fastest way is probably a little bit of trickery. Set the stack pointer to the beginning (or the end?) of that region and repeatedly push a value, then restore the stack pointer. < 1489024304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would that be fastest? < 1489024407 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that fills 2 bytes per 11 "states". I'm pretty sure a "state" corresponds to one clock cycle. < 1489024444 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like gnusto? < 1489024458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about girgol? < 1489024572 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One alternative is to use MOV to fill 1 byte, taking 7 states, then INX to increment the memory pointer register, taking another 5 states. Much slower. < 1489024634 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :BytePusher is a little reminiscent of a console. (Very little.) < 1489024685 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so... why *wouldn't* that be the fastest? < 1489024711 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know 8080 < 1489024862 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing you could do is to have a separate video processor with the video instruction set that I made up for a new computer machine, but you could make the video registers a bit different if you want to < 1489024889 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I found the part of the manual where it talks about "states". One state = one period of the clock signal. < 1489024905 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: z-machine was meant to be really portable. < 1489024990 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Z-machine is really portable, can probably implement on Famicom too (I have partially done so, and it uses a new mapper I invented for that purpose) < 1489025082 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: such a machine reminds me of a machine that I recently read a reference to, basically it has two processors. One that performs your program, the other handles video terminal emulation with support for NAPLPS, DEC ReGIS and some subset of RIPSCRIP and I think limited PostScript too. (The last two were added at later date) < 1489025248 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1489025329 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the 8080 came in a couple flavors. The fastest seems to be the 8080A-1, with a minimum clock period of 320 nanoseconds. < 1489025344 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna do a little calculation here. How much memory can you fill in 1/24 of a second? < 1489025454 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/24 seconds * (1 state / 320 nanoseconds) * (2 bytes / 11 states) = 23,674 8/33. < 1489025718 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: depends on the memory. SRAM? What kind of address decoder setup, CAS and RAS? most likely not. Probably octal or hex decoders < 1489025769 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I think you are in the ballpark with that calculation < 1489025853 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's assuming that the speed of the memory isn't a limiting factor. < 1489025959 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that's *barely* enough to keep a 256-color Game Boy-sized display happy. That's 23,040 instructions. < 1489025994 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er... pixels. 23,040 pixels. < 1489026126 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme calculate a bit more. If you have 24 frames per second, then 320 nanoseconds per state means you get 130,208 states. The PUSH instructions for filling the display take 126,720 states, leaving you with 3,488 states to do everything else. < 1489026130 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, needless to say... < 1489026172 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't expect an 8080 to output 24 Hz 160x144 256-color video. < 1489026618 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you know why Game Boy uses four layers of tiles and some number which I dont recall now of sprites < 1489026697 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MAIL CHICKEN < 1489028234 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1489028327 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the Ataris that use display lists. < 1489028433 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-102.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1489029566 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you could provide some kind of graphics coprocessor thing. < 1489029608 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that would be really useful would be a "fast rectangle copy" instruction. Tell it about a rectangle somewhere in memory, it'll copy it somewhere else. < 1489029775 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :why copy? Why not blit? < 1489029834 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's a good idea. < 1489029955 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and related to this kind of graphics, you should read about the neat algorithm to rotate something less than 90 degrees without loss or interpolation. It is called rotation by three sheers (or shears I dont remember exactly what it is called) < 1489029985 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rotating by 90 degrees is relatively straight forward) < 1489030121 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rotation by three shears. That's pretty interesting. < 1489030270 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :can be done with no additional memory < 1489030288 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, in place. < 1489030378 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :another neat trick in this kind of stuff is how Apple Mac OS 9 and earlier stored clipping masks < 1489030497 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders.
< 1489030563 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I am off to bed < 1489030568 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night. < 1489030572 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna keep monologuing. < 1489030673 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose we go with the Game Boy-sized display. 160 by 144, or 23,040 pixels. That's... really big, compared to the 64 kiB address space of an 8080 processor. < 1489030691 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to pretend that I'm going to use an *actual* 8080 processor for this fantasy game console. < 1489030796 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1489030802 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, we could go a little crazy and say you get 32-bit color, a big display, lots of buffers, and you can use arbitrary blend modes for your transfer operation. < 1489030818 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually sounds pretty interesting. < 1489030983 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see what the "well-defined" blend modes are... < 1489031139 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fbpsrfyjvmpxfpbd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1489031239 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the "well-behaved" blend modes can all be made out of addition, multiplication, and clipping. < 1489032673 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is s3 acting up again? < 1489032846 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1489032951 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another way can be an instruction (or coprocessor), you tell it the width, height, and pitch, of source and destination, an optional transparency value, an optional lookup table, and optional second buffer, and if the second buffer is used also the bit operation to perform; you can also specify an optional stop value. Using this is not only for picture, but also to implement strcpy() and memfrob() too. < 1489032962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Rain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51312&oldid=51287 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+55) 10ensure tunneling level is nonnegative < 1489033162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Rain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51313&oldid=51312 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+163) 10response < 1489033180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Rain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51314&oldid=51313 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+88) 10sig < 1489033286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Rain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51315&oldid=51314 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+38) 10/* A Python Implementation */ make [] nops < 1489033497 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dimensions of both sources and of the destination have to match, but the pitch (the address difference from one scanline to the next) can differ in each case. A further extension can be a three-dimensional copy, with two pitches, which would allow doing such thing as copying only the alpha channel of a picture, or a string of 16-bit characters into a string of 8-bit characters. If the pitch of the source is zero, then you can even implement mem < 1489033556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A negative pitch can be used to perform the copy in reverse (to avoid problems with copying overlapping buffers), or to reverse a string or flip a picture. < 1489033938 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you discussing methods for bitblting? < 1489034215 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if there was such an instruction or coprocessor or whatever, to do this kind of bitblting then < 1489034222 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there is other uses for it too < 1489034423 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just have an arbitrary-dimensional copy, where you specify a sequence of (length, offset, pitch) values for both source and destination. < 1489034475 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it... yeah, I dunno. < 1489034882 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1489037513 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489040226 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Apple Mac OS 9 and earlier stored clipping masks? < 1489041725 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1489041842 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1489042743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51316&oldid=51042 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+12) 10Upgrade deadlink to archive.org link < 1489043110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51317&oldid=51316 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-6) 10Follow redirection and reorg < 1489043765 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489043779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51318&oldid=51317 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+13) 10Origin server wiped/missing archive.org incomplete < 1489043786 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1489044267 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1489044365 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489044990 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :kijbh < 1489045250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means what? < 1489045308 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly a langiage that has five instructions; k, i, j, b and h < 1489046361 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :langiage? < 1489046363 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :language* < 1489048390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Zeno14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51319&oldid=51307 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+1) 10/* Overview */ < 1489048774 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1489049729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Image14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51320 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+1283) 10Lol < 1489049815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Text14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51321&oldid=36455 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+160) 10/* Text - lame. */ yay Image < 1489051310 0 :zemhill___!~cinch@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1489051318 0 :zemhill___!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1489051318 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host81-136-80-8.range81-136.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489052436 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489053177 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1489054032 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489054593 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489056621 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:b0db:b842:32ca:f4c6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489057236 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8d01:f8f8:cfa1:1bd8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489057295 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:b0db:b842:32ca:f4c6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489059030 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8d01:f8f8:cfa1:1bd8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489059266 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489059905 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1489059915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boxmodel//boxmodel is how we figure out how big Taneb's cage is going to be. < 1489060787 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1489061897 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan ring ring ring ring ring ring ring, banana phone ♪ < 1489061898 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1489061935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1489062172 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zczj65ebhhvrc0.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1489062213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-sound < 1489062214 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5m 15s ago: ring ring ring ring ring ring ring, banana phone ♪ < 1489062220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: your message has appeal < 1489062286 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIiZ3vvZ78s ← the most persistent earworm I know < 1489062316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh no...) < 1489062326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION clicks
< 1489062426 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sings ♪
< 1489062613 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PARTITION CHICKEN < 1489063571 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1489063612 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489063650 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1489064077 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`everydayheroeslist http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/comics/2386569/defining-success/ < 1489064078 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: everydayheroeslist: not found < 1489064087 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`eheroeslist http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/comics/2386569/defining-success/ < 1489064088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eheroeslist: not found < 1489064551 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo /bin/e*h*list < 1489064552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/e*h*list < 1489064601 0 :pledis!~nayoung@2400:6180:0:d0::383:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaf do you yhink aviuy me about me i think this is a aprogramming kanagauage and when uou insert sthid inyi the interoretser tit wil out out a nelli mworld mrssave < 1489065031 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I xan'f sofk ouf whaf sthid jeahs < 1489065149 0 :pledis!~nayoung@2400:6180:0:d0::383:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhaks j think of that tok but if yoh type kut hekli world jn this knyetoregeinteroteter it will out out thello world < 1489065394 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what do you think? < 1489065394 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i said web access, i would've said fnord instead of just " message=divide by zero" is displayed when you're entering a state-of-the-art car wash!! < 1489065409 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are your messages easier to understand than pledis's? < 1489065410 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what then? feed me with your ' fnord' mean in that context < 1489068411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1489069169 0 :trn!jhj@prone.ws QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489069892 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8d01:f8f8:cfa1:1bd8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489070189 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8d01:f8f8:cfa1:1bd8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489071615 0 :trn!jhj@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1489072195 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1489072854 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1067 < 1489072855 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1067: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1489072861 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1489073532 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8d01:f8f8:cfa1:1bd8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489073804 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:edea:7214:e008:b0a5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489073824 0 :augur_!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:edea:7214:e008:b0a5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489073885 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8d01:f8f8:cfa1:1bd8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489073902 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1489074568 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :assoteric < 1489074588 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone seen my new language, Image, yet? https://esolangs.org/wiki/Image < 1489075034 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashlife turns out to be pretty easy in mathematica: https://gist.github.com/Jafet/9a39a8325f225853d6dbb1459e12169f < 1489075070 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shachaf: do you like this?) < 1489075609 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:b065:d6ef:15f0:55e1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489076763 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ℒ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51322&oldid=33934 5* 03Get52 5* (-6) 10removed double negative < 1489077202 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-udehuqflcjkwpqna QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489077370 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489077389 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xyfjtymnsfkrwdzf JOIN :#esoteric < 1489077477 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1489078051 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51323&oldid=51303 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+119) 10 < 1489079571 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xyfjtymnsfkrwdzf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489079699 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cawsvexoygfmgeuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1489080166 0 :trn!jhj@prone.ws QUIT :Quit: quit < 1489080224 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1489080326 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:b065:d6ef:15f0:55e1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489080425 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489080849 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf < 1489081057 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:edea:7214:e008:b0a5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489081361 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:edea:7214:e008:b0a5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489082151 0 :trn!jhj@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1489083328 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on, is kaizen just the word 改善する? as in, the verb "to make better"? < 1489083333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah just fucking make things better, nice management idea youve got there < 1489083584 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kaizen" is the *US* term for some of the practices < 1489083590 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :employed by e.g. Toyota. < 1489083619 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... not exactly referred to so simply in Japan. < 1489083748 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the way the wikipedia article on kaizen has a picture of the word 改善 as if that's some mystical symbol of power. It doesn't look fucking mystical to any japanese person. < 1489083852 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's also not how you'd see it if it were e.g. put up on a wall. < 1489083881 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually a really crap SVG; I think it's been vectorized from a pixel font. < 1489083948 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you'd see it done by a calligrapher. < 1489083988 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite plausibly in cursive script. < 1489084070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be just as well as if we put up ℳ𝒶𝓀ℯ 𝒾𝓉 ℬℯ𝓉𝓉ℯ𝓇 on the wall < 1489084117 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 𝔐𝔞𝔠𝔥𝔱 𝔢𝔰 𝔟𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔯 < 1489084228 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1489084274 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heppavilione11o < 1489084424 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpello < 1489084430 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :heııo < 1489085060 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello \oren\, rdococ < 1489085224 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\ < 1489085236 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello-packard pavillion < 1489086456 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-020.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1489086808 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489087771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45sXjNm-SU < 1489087933 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1489087963 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489088318 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489088325 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489088778 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ᑎ < 1489088780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+144E CANADIAN SYLLABICS TI \ UTF-8: e1 91 8e UTF-16BE: 144e Decimal: ᑎ \ ᑎ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1489089531 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489089838 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489089914 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1489090248 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Zerevo 5* 10New user account < 1489091403 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489091539 0 :mainman_!~john@71.19.240.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489092051 0 :mainman_!~john@71.19.240.120 QUIT :Quit: gonesville < 1489092258 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apparently, in Hallelujah, it's 'you' on the roof when you see 'her' bathing < 1489092272 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always parsed it as 'you' saw 'her bathing on the roof' < 1489092438 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1489092596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Bendertheprogrammer 5* 10New user account < 1489092651 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1489092968 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: I guess lennard co-N didn't speak good english < 1489092988 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: *sigh* < 1489092991 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes, sure < 1489093007 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making my own little personal wiki of various math < 1489093042 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: He was Canadian, so he probably knew English as at the *very least* his 2L < 1489093043 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You saw her bathing on the roof" should be "you saw her bathing from the roof" < 1489093144 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the roof would mean she's on the roof < 1489093177 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider "I can see a car on the roof" < 1489093180 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though, I figure that Québécois generally speak English and French (fr-ca.qc) with equal proficiency most likely, but I could be wrong) < 1489093191 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider "I can see my house from here" < 1489093193 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah. It's weird phrasing < 1489093237 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why is the main character a creepy voyeur < 1489093258 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489093275 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But also, as t goes to ∞, the number of variants on Hallelujah approaches ω < 1489093303 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever I hate leonard cohen he's a whiny bitch < 1489093349 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why doesn't Unicode have "Mathematical Hebrew Letter "? It's impossible to talk about cardinals since the only Aleph available is proper Hebrew and switches you to RTL) < 1489093358 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* AFAICT) < 1489093365 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few < 1489093399 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But there are so many variants of Hallelujah, it's hard to know whether that grammar weirdness was in the original or if it was just in the first one I heard or what < 1489093427 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a mathematical font then < 1489093427 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℵℶℷ < 1489093428 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℸ < 1489093449 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those four exist < 1489093463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ℵℶℷℸ < 1489093464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2135 ALEF SYMBOL \ UTF-8: e2 84 b5 UTF-16BE: 2135 Decimal: ℵ \ ℵ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 05D0 \ \ U+2136 BET SYMBOL \ UTF-8: e2 84 b6 UTF-16BE: 2136 Decimal: ℶ \ ℶ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 05D1 \ \ U+2137 GIME < 1489093466 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Oh, and the main character is a creepy voyeur because the song is about the part of 2 Samuel about David and Bathsheba, in which David falls in love with the married Bathsheba when he sees her bathing from his palace roof < 1489093496 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's married to a 1337 soldier named Uriah in David's army, but he sleeps with her and gets her pregnant < 1489093546 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then to try to hide the adultery, he tries to get Uriah to go back and visit his wife so that they have sex and he assumes the pregnancy was his, but Uriah refused < 1489093576 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So David has Uriah put on the front lines of a battle so that he's KIA and he can take Bathsheba into his harem so that it isn't adultery < 1489093719 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Prophet Nathan knows about all this because Prophesy and informs David that his firstborn to Bathsheba (the one he knocked her up with) is gonna die young because David was being a dick, and that happens < 1489093726 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a second child who is then king Solomon. < 1489093765 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is everyone in the bible fucking evil < 1489093811 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: The people who wrote it were kind of fucked up < 1489093830 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should just throw it out and start over < 1489093849 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm (irl) named for somebody who was named for somebody( who was named for somebody)* named after the aforementioned Prophet Nathan < 1489093935 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[I'm named after my grandpa Nathan Myrick, who was probably named after his (great ){0,5}grandfather Nathan Myrick, brother of Andrew Myrick: ] < 1489094010 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm named after a name my mom found in a name book < 1489094219 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and luckily noone in the bible is anmed oren < 1489094334 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm named because my parents didn't know anyone called Nathan < 1489094494 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That's also part of my naming, as well as my cousin's < 1489094583 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Her parents chose her name (which I'm obviously not going to say on public IRC) by getting out a list of the U50 most popular baby names and limiting themselves to only things NOT on that list < 1489094615 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother is unlucky though; she tries to choose uncommon names, but then they *become* common. < 1489094660 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(She's probably just following the same predictable trends as everybody else, but we like to pretend that she /sets/ the trends) < 1489094704 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :['U' is now the digit ump. "umpteen" is the weird way of writing 1U as a word; the same way people sometimes *write* "fourteen"] < 1489094707 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51324&oldid=51262 5* 03Bendertheprogrammer 5* (+340) 10 < 1489094796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Bendertheprogrammer14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51325 5* 03Bendertheprogrammer 5* (+26) 10Created page with "Hi from Santiago of Chile!" < 1489094813 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a kilobyte is 1024 bytes, a megabyte is 1_048_576 (1024**2), a gigabyte is 1_073_741_824 (1024**3), and so on. What, then, is a hectobyte?? < 1489094915 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1024^(2/3) < 1489094948 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 101.59366... bytes < 1489095020 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you might round it a different manner < 1489095040 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^7 = 128 bytes < 1489095109 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a myriabyte would be 10321 bytes < 1489095328 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489095421 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a a hectokilobyte would be 104032 bytes < 1489095467 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that is what outernet used for as their submission size limit < 1489095550 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, in metric countries, fuel efficiency is still measured in litres per hectokilometre < 1489095589 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:edea:7214:e008:b0a5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489095596 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just don't use "hectokilo" anymore < 1489095786 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was too hectic! < 1489095819 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cawsvexoygfmgeuu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489095929 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-meqhsdqnrgriqaix JOIN :#esoteric < 1489095977 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:edea:7214:e008:b0a5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489096046 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:590d:96b8:734a:ceac JOIN :#esoteric < 1489096141 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-020.rentec.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489096162 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-020.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1489096295 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489096405 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:590d:96b8:734a:ceac QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489096451 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:a879:305f:aa11:57b9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489096754 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:a879:305f:aa11:57b9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489097248 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489097551 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a litre per 100kilometre is mathematically equal to a picohectare < 1489097553 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, fuel efficiency should be measured in picohectares < 1489097754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1489097860 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, that's a double SI prefix < 1489097896 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A picohectare is I think 100 picares, or 0.1 nanares < 1489098166 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1489098212 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:842:8280:552c:7fe4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489098218 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:842:8280:552c:7fe4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1489098233 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489098583 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try ais523's monster symbol golf problem some time. I have an idea that's a bit tricky to execute but could lead to a nice solution that's not very long and different from the ones posted so far. < 1489099972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> also, why is the main character a creepy voyeur <-- it's a mixture of two bible references hth < 1489100013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, this song pronounces "orange" as one syllable? or is it some other word? < 1489100050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which song? < 1489100077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and how do you expect us to know?) < 1489100099 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I'm checking the written lyrics < 1489100104 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's orange < 1489100104 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1489100111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fanc < 1489100116 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phineas and Ferb S4 episode http://phineasandferb.wikia.com/wiki/Terrifying_Tri-State_Trilogy_of_Terror/Transcript < 1489100170 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it pronounces it as "onge" basically < 1489100253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many syllables in "little"? < 1489100292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "ornge"? < 1489100891 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zczj65ebhhvrc0.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1489101270 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "little" right before "orange" is definitely pronounced as two syllables < 1489101641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> therefore, fuel efficiency should be measured in picohectares <-- hm i think norwegians use nanares hth < 1489101680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you like this? < 1489101704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you making zzo impressions < 1489101740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course we call it "liter på mila") < 1489101770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafet started it hth < 1489101786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1489101802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's because Norway is big, driving a megameter actually makes sense. in Hungary, it rarely does. < 1489102188 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489102222 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489102400 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489102416 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1489102752 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric