< 1490229047 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490229048 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490229162 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1490229164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tautology//A tautology is a tautology. Oren invented them. < 1490229322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1490229327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:kayayaya//Ka-ya-ya-ya. Ka-ya-ya-ya-ya. Ka-ya-ya-ya. Ka-ya-ya-ya-ya. \ augur//augur took no cakes, but he's a linguist. \ pumping lemma//noooooodl's pumping lemma for wisdom entries states that for any sufficiently long valid wisdom entry, there exists a letter that can be repeated any number of times. \ latin//LATINA EST SVBLIMISSIMA < 1490229330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1490229331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:LINGVA MVNDI \ bardsworthlist//bardsworthlist is update notification for the Bardsworth webcomic. http://www.bardsworth.com/ < 1490229332 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: he\\oren\. could you please add 蜂? < 1490229341 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true < 1490229343 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took no cakes < 1490229351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pumping lemma < 1490229352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooodl's pumping lemma for wisdom entries states that for any sufficiently long valid wisdom entry, there exists a letter that can be repeated any number of times. < 1490229426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was going to get a .fi domain that expired a month ago and had "available:" date today. < 1490229432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But someone else got it first. :-( < 1490229470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was vh.fi < 1490229483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( robot domain traders ) < 1490229494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until a few seconds ago I thought it was renewed by the person who had it before. < 1490229527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I see it was registered by someone else. < 1490229535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1490229538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've gotten it. < 1490229611 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want that domain in particular? < 1490229678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty good, isn't it? < 1490229719 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails to link "shachaf" and "vh" together < 1490229795 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490229985 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490230523 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490230919 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :high-frequency domain trading? < 1490232524 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1490232525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefixes//Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1490232533 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION misses metasepia < 1490232850 0 :SPeedY!~Me@ool-944adb7b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490232881 0 :SPeedY!~Me@ool-944adb7b.dyn.optonline.net PART #esoteric : < 1490232970 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: WOLF CHICKEN < 1490234157 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490234429 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1490236833 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1490236833 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1490236836 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1490236841 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1490236841 0 :zemhill___!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrepc: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1490236844 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1490236852 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :( help < 1490236852 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-000-201-009.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable help < 1490236855 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1490236861 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :+help < 1490237010 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. I'd try out bfjoust, but it seems that at the moment, I'm unable to comprehend ideas. < 1490237836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :help < 1490237837 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-000-201-009.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Command "help" not permitted. < 1490239162 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :) help < 1490239172 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :~help < 1490239176 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ help < 1490239177 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~ < 1490239198 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :^python3 print('What does fungot do?') < 1490239215 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1490239242 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1490239242 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1490239272 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t transverse < 1490239274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: < 1490239274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Variable not in scope: transverse < 1490239274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1490239283 0 :zgrepc!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leesxvmkwjxaelow PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that wisdom should be updated. < 1490239866 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490240121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which wisdom < 1490240139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1490240193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 < 1490240194 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 < 1490241832 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was incredibly specific in crediting #esoteric with finding a bug 7 years ago < 1490241862 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"items[i] = items[i + i]; // This line drove me bonkers (it's supposed to be i + 1). Thanks to pound-esoteric peeps for finding it! < 1490241862 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1490242073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Ni+ite < 1490242127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :£esoteric < 1490242803 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490243044 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490243366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490243371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposition: Truth is beauty < 1490243474 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Annals of the Fine Arts #15 under Ode on a Grecian Urn; John Keats et al., 1989) < 1490243777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposition: Some truths are inconvenient (Proof: Entire planet; proof by construction; Everyone, ~1760-present; First publication: Gore 2006) < 1490243793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conclusion: Beautiful things are sometimes inconvenient. < 1490243801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[in retrospect, this was kind of obvious] < 1490243958 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@46.22.110.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490245031 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490245319 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490245389 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490245533 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490248596 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490248659 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1490248801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490249196 0 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1490249218 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490249328 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490249348 0 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tlakkflljgbpxtdp JOIN :#esoteric < 1490249550 0 :vifino-!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1490249553 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy JOIN :#esoteric < 1490249570 0 :Effilry!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1490249584 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490249586 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490249586 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xynoxeoicwnwxobc QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490249586 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490249586 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1490249588 0 :heroux_!?@? NICK :heroux < 1490249780 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1490249887 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490250487 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1490250488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490250493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad works in a hospital laboratory, which results in really strange fatherly advice < 1490250508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exempli gratia "You can treat a transfusion reaction; you can't treat death." < 1490251911 0 :Effilry!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1490251935 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@46.22.110.168 QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1490252422 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490252443 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490252490 0 :augur!~augur@98.210.157.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490252523 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1490252535 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490252586 0 :puckipedia!puck@puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490252616 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490252616 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490252712 0 :ineiros!ineiros@217.30.184.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490252909 0 :puckipedia!puck@puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490252955 0 :rdococ!rdococ@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe37:4704 QUIT :Changing host < 1490252955 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ JOIN :#esoteric < 1490253042 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490253505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490253759 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zd1uq2yzoxq5bo.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1490254157 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zd1uq2yzoxq5bo.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1490254845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490258265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490259541 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490259823 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490260080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Trains have roots? Are they functions? < 1490260186 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, nah, plants < 1490260591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't realize you mistyped. < 1490260598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a fancy trains word I didn't know. < 1490260620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a central station or a backbone route or something. < 1490260645 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to think phonetically < 1490260654 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I often mistype homophones < 1490260663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe I'd've pronounced it like "out". < 1490260668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But actually I have no idea. < 1490260915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a word for "the thing in parentheses"? < 1490260958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might make some statement and then clarify it in parentheses (like this, but in a way that changes the meaning of the sentence somewhat). < 1490260966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a word for it? < 1490261118 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parenthetical? < 1490261130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1490261149 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, route sounding like root is a British thing < 1490261149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's exactly the method," the Bellman bold < 1490261150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a hasty parenthesis cried, < 1490261150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's exactly the way I have always been told < 1490261151 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That the capture of Snarks should be tried!") < 1490261176 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the US and Australia pronounce it to rhyme with out < 1490261183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked it up, and apparently it's complicated in the US, varying by whether it's referred to as a noun or verb. < 1490261206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm a simple English speaker who doesn't understand subtle distinctions. < 1490261304 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1490261335 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dog on keyboard sorry < 1490261572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathan van Doog < 1490262101 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490262234 0 :augur!~augur@98.210.157.162 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490264771 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490265252 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490265323 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c454:8af2:c77d:e189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490265501 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1490265501 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 231000Z 28009KT 15SM BKN095 M10/M20 A3049 RMK AC6 SLP329 < 1490266723 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490266991 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1490267126 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490267797 0 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got phishing spam in the name of a bank where I don't even have an account or anything. < 1490267820 0 :b_jonas_!?@? NICK :b_jonas < 1490267876 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: isn't the trick with "route" is that "router" is pronounced differently by informaticians (when it means an electronic device that sends network packets in the right direction) and woodworkers (where it means some sort of power tool)? < 1490267902 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^ < 1490267922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Is there a word for "the thing in parentheses"?" => a remark < 1490267951 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zd1uq2yzoxq5bo.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1490268285 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UPDATE CHICKEN < 1490268379 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I don't know, but I do pronounce the electronic device meaning different to my Australian cousin < 1490268804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's also possible < 1490268818 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1490268841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really puzzled by why the computer and the woodworking meaning have different pronunciations though < 1490268907 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! apparently the woodworking meaning doesn't derive from "route", but from a more obscure English word "rout", which is why the pronunciations differ < 1490269032 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently "route" (and the computer "router") is pronounced as /ru:t/ or /raUt/ depending on dialect, whereas "router" in woodworking is always /raUt/, and "root" (of a plant) is always /ru:t/. < 1490272156 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490272408 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490273986 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlqmjagflzssgmbr PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Surprisingly, "a parenthesis": https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/parenthesis < 1490274019 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlqmjagflzssgmbr PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that came up later < 1490274055 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlqmjagflzssgmbr PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so confusing though? I didn't know until I looked it up just now. apparently parentheses are statements delemited by parentheses #whoa < 1490275389 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come there's no living weapon that gives infect? < 1490277297 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait.... phased out is a status now? < 1490277578 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490277853 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490278416 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490278606 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490278858 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490279612 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490280200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490280998 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tcfvollcclfrhljr JOIN :#esoteric < 1490281221 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1490284233 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :raUt or ræUt? < 1490284281 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always pronounced it /ræUtə/ < 1490284300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emoji-gramming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51389&oldid=47341 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+60) 10Cleanup and Expansion < 1490284311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emoji-gramming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51390&oldid=51389 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+6) 10 < 1490284374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emoji-gramming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51391&oldid=51390 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+14) 10 < 1490284474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Emoji-gramming14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51392 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+141) 10/* 12 or 24 variables? */ new section < 1490284486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Emoji-gramming.png10]]": Replaced two icons with better ones; added another 12 variables to use. < 1490284639 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.... [^-^] is a funny regex < 1490284660 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: /r{Ut@/? seriously? that's strange < 1490284706 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1490284712 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1490284752 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :router pouter doubter < 1490284776 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1490284924 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a fish's favourite video game? < 1490284938 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :cod. no wonder so many people eat fish :/ < 1490285205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Emoji-gramming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51394&oldid=51392 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+193) 10/* 12 or 24 variables? */ < 1490285219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Emoji-gramming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51395&oldid=51394 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+0) 10 < 1490285297 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cache doesn't usually give me any problems... < 1490285305 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it does say 24 now < 1490285549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51396&oldid=47286 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (-1780) 10Replaced content with "Writer and implementer of [[Stack Up]]. Writer of [[Set]]." < 1490285568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51397&oldid=51396 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+19) 10 < 1490286042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/pronounceable_cee.c.htm < 1490286046 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of this < 1490286274 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: seriously? big copy-pasted cascade of else-if bodies, all alike? are you trying to program like a youngster who doesn't understand why copy-paste code is bad and how you can use functions and tables and other structured programming practices to avoid it? < 1490286362 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, the part where you write { if(context == CODE) stmt0 if (context == STRING) stmt1 } is a bit distracting. are those supposed to be the only options? if so, why not just put an else instead of a second if? < 1490286383 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the heavy copy-paste code bothers me more < 1490286505 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't use switch case here because they keys are strings < 1490286521 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure, I know < 1490286570 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was VB obviously I would use swich case, but C is limited < 1490286636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think b_jonas was suggesting switch < 1490286636 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : seriously? — well, I doubt it < 1490286646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason why you need the code and string part is that I want < 1490286653 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main paren < 1490286666 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be int main( with a space after int < 1490286675 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but inside a string there's no need < 1490286764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the traditional phrase is "do you like this?", not "what do you think of this" < 1490286764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1490286789 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also quote oren space said space quote hello quote unquote < 1490286797 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought the traditional phrase is "RFC" < 1490286806 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will eb "oren said \"hello\"" < 1490286927 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's old hat, the important thing these days is the like < 1490286934 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm but < 1490286946 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how do you write mixed case identifiers, such as _Exit, _Complex? < 1490286964 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :underscore capital e x i t < 1490286972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1490286972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky < 1490287015 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most words don't insert an autospace, it only applies to things that typically have an identifier after them < 1490287017 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't use , you have to replace it with < 1490287042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as float, double, int, etc < 1490287049 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also else < 1490287066 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can't use numeral digits < 1490287070 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to do: < 1490287080 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :int x equals three semicolon < 1490287090 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: correct < 1490287118 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :backslash oren backslash colon space correct < 1490287127 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally I'd like it to support three hundred instead of three zero zero but for now... < 1490287132 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point we might observe that none of C's keywords are NATO phonetic letters < 1490287164 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we need a dialect of C where all keywords are NATO phonetic letters < 1490287183 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or greek letters. < 1490287214 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that letter is a consonant < 1490287292 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: like char lie? < 1490287337 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I guess it would be more efficient to use a sorted table and bsearch < 1490287388 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for anything that doesn't have special behaviour at any rate < 1490287441 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: technically, "goto" is also usually followed by an identifier < 1490287539 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1490287575 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use a table of name->symbol mappings and another table of just words that need a space < 1490287655 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also "struct", "union", "enum", "auto", "static", "register", "extern", "volatile", "unsigned", and often "case" and "return" are too; but "include" is rarely followed by an identifer) < 1490287731 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, is "volatile" one of the original edition keywords?) < 1490287739 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't remember the history) < 1490287855 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meh, close enough, you have the c89 keywords "const" and "void" anyway) < 1490287879 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though if you wanted all c89 keywords, then "signed" counts too) < 1490288070 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :``unicode ´ < 1490288071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `unicode: not found < 1490288074 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1490288078 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ´ < 1490288079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00B4 ACUTE ACCENT \ UTF-8: c2 b4 UTF-16BE: 00b4 Decimal: ´ \ ´ \ Category: Sk (Symbol, Modifier) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Decomposition: 0020 0301 < 1490288110 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ' < 1490288111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0027 APOSTROPHE \ UTF-8: 27 UTF-16BE: 0027 Decimal: ' \ ' \ Category: Po (Punctuation, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1490288871 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've changed it to use a table, qsort, and bearch < 1490289300 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the url? ... http://orenwatson.be/pronounceable_cee.c.htm < 1490289362 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that looks better, though you could also use a table (sorted or not) for the keywords < 1490289484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also improve it by using a readable typeface like Courier. < 1490289497 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: fixed that too now < 1490289526 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: screw you, courier is crap and don't support all mai nice wingdings < 1490289577 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how do you write an apostrophe? and I'm a bit worried about the magic double quote. it could make it too hard to use C++ style raw string literals, if they ever get accepted to C, or if you use this thing to write C++. < 1490289598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apostrophe < 1490289643 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! it is there, it's just that the symbols are in a strange orer < 1490289671 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think you have to dictate '"' as apostrophe backslash x two two apostrophe < 1490289689 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because apostrophe quote apostrophe won't work, nor will apostrophe unquote apostrophe < 1490289698 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... yeah.... < 1490289699 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1490289784 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll just allow to use unquote < 1490289786 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and please don't add magic apostrophes in such a way that it makes it impossible to use C++-style 1'000 integer literals < 1490289810 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does quote have to be special in that it's backspaced in first place? < 1490289817 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/backspaced/backslashed < 1490289903 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i need to distinguish between autospaced and non-autospaced contexts right? < 1490289993 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm or, I suppose I could autospace always and you can suppress it with word < 1490290009 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: if you want that, then keep "quote" and "unquote" special in that they change to non-autospaced and autospaced context, but still make "quote" never emit a backslash < 1490290062 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... but c keywords rarely occur in strings anyway? < 1490290082 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so jsut if you don't want a space after int you do word int < 1490290111 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or just dictate it as i n t < 1490290132 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. there's no real need for cotext beyond word and capital < 1490290162 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe make "oh" a synonym for "zero" < 1490290172 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, that doesn't work < 1490290178 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you guys pronounce "oh" the same as "o" < 1490290230 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1490290294 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to type by letters anyway if you want to enter, say, int32_t < 1490290302 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid the space after int < 1490290316 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i n t three two underscore t < 1490290641 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :letter i letter n letter t number three number two underscore letter t < 1490290790 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: grumpy_cat_NO.jpg < 1490291932 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well you could just add int32_t to your plover dictionary, then assign it a pronounceable stroke < 1490291956 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: huhwhat < 1490291961 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a plover, apart from a bird? < 1490291973 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :open source stenotype software < 1490292030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i four-leaf plover < 1490292056 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1490292197 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1490292246 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490292929 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c454:8af2:c77d:e189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490293101 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490293117 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490293332 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490293417 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490293524 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490293632 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-neaiiplqqmzkdfyi QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490293889 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jlqbfdkntmjmkpuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1490293986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: The real question is what a corange is. < 1490293994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a domain or a coimage? < 1490294197 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, a corange is a function whose range is equal to its cofunction. < 1490294201 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1490294217 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a c-orange? < 1490294217 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ffee < 1490294218 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffee? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490294223 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1490294224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”, Icelandic „íðdegis“) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1490294315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490294496 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopavilion[1] < 1490294514 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1490294522 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a poration? < 1490294529 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/poration/rporation < 1490294556 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have conmen, but do we have nmen? < 1490294587 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have a compound, but can you have an mpound? < 1490294827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In German Uno, you should replace the word "Uno" with a word from some other foreign language < 1490294957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote Ενας ≈ Enas ~/e'naːs/, from Greek. < 1490294972 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One" < 1490295029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Duh. < 1490296406 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do germans hate spaniards or something? < 1490296859 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jlqbfdkntmjmkpuu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490296979 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-siezprtyjbjdpqcc JOIN :#esoteric < 1490297503 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490297946 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: send me a resume! do you have my email address? < 1490298517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( LaTeX \pagenumbering{arabic} should have a variant \pagenumbering[base]{arabic} to number pages in bases other than 10 ) < 1490298521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1490298521 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 7h 53m 4s ago: IS there even a way? <-- no hth < 1490298521 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 7h 52m 14s ago: however, you don't need the #! line for sh. < 1490298521 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 7h 22m 26s ago: also welcome.es is longer than most welcomes, there is simply no room for colors. < 1490298571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan also welcome.es is longer than most welcomes, there is simply no room for colors. <-- Yeah, I figured that out < 1490298571 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1490298689 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1490298733 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spanish or Esperanto? < 1490298769 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490298866 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference < 1490298884 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Esperanto is eo) < 1490298914 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome-es < 1490298914 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome-es: not found < 1490298919 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome-es < 1490298920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome-es? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490298921 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1490298926 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1490298929 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome.es < 1490298930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome.es: not found < 1490298933 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es < 1490298934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: . (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1490298941 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.en < 1490298942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.en? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490298946 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1490298948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1490298972 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? relcome.es < 1490298973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :relcome.es? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490299546 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490299813 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1490299815 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welocome.en_CA < 1490299816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welocome.en_CA? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490299820 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.en_CA < 1490299821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.en_CA? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490299833 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.de < 1490299834 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: . (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf EFnet oder DALnet.) < 1490299845 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.po < 1490299846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.po? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490299849 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.pl < 1490299850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.pl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490299867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru < 1490299868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.ru? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490300095 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490300206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.iw < 1490300207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.iw? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490300210 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.he < 1490300212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.he? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490300215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1490300231 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ja < 1490300232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ!詳しく、ウィキを見て: 。(他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ) < 1490300240 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ko < 1490300241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.ko? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490300250 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAH! < 1490300849 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; echo welcome.* < 1490300851 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.bork welcome.de welcome.eo welcome.es welcome.fi welcome.fr welcome.is welcome.ja welcome.nb welcome.nl welcome.sv welcome.tr < 1490301268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490301886 0 :VictorDrew-!~VictorDw@186-95-201-126.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490302068 0 :VictorDrew-!~VictorDw@186-95-201-126.genericrev.cantv.net PART #esoteric : < 1490302072 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. why URL country codes"? < 1490302142 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet habit, I'd assume. < 1490302155 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :We often talk like "in .ru it's always blah blah" < 1490302173 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.bork < 1490302174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Velcume-a tu zee interneshunel hoob fur isutereec prugremmeeng lungooege-a deseegn und depluyment! Fur mure-a inffurmeshun, check oooot oooor veeki: . (Fur zee oozeer keend ooff isutereeca, try #isutereec oon IFnet oor DELnet.) < 1490302186 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs møre møøse jøkes < 1490303032 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tcfvollcclfrhljr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1490303052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490303423 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490304110 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490304256 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490304272 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490304276 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490304643 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a møøse once bit mi sister < 1490304682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFternoon < 1490305758 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490305988 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490306014 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490306016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490306040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490306330 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-siezprtyjbjdpqcc QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490306549 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lgmxwyltnesxvwwi JOIN :#esoteric < 1490306611 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490306624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least now I have two long-running thingies to watch < 1490306638 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :build/test processes that is < 1490306657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so things are looking up! < 1490306788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490307237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490307644 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shapr i do not < 1490307804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: hikhq_ < 1490307810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq++ < 1490307841 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1490307903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's CO? < 1490307915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any CO poisoning yet? < 1490308018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490308258 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO's quite fine, and no CO poisoning. < 1490308261 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grumble frumble Debian netinst doesn't seem to support a floppy drive, that's just odd. < 1490308272 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a CO detector, and my apartment doesn't have gas heating. < 1490308281 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, I'm next to the boiler room, so... < 1490308324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a CO detector. < 1490308328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And gas heating. < 1490308340 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if my CO detector is broken and I'm getting CO poisoning all the time? < 1490308398 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: let me guess it's too new and therefore only supported in Debian unstable... < 1490308420 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO poisoning tends to be fairly obvious. < 1490308436 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably dig for my weather radio though. < 1490308440 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm actually a Debian user but this joke was hanging too low, it had to be plucked.) < 1490308487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weather has been volatile around here. < 1490308489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1490308489 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 232153Z 28008KT 10SM FEW030 FEW180 16/07 A3022 RMK AO2 SLP231 T01610072 < 1490308537 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KAFF < 1490308537 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KAFF 232158Z AUTO 24013G19KT 10SM CLR 20/M13 A2959 RMK AO2 PK WND 21026/37 SLP972 T01961127 < 1490308551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KPHX < 1490308551 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPHX 232151Z 26018G24KT 10SM SCT070 BKN100 BKN250 22/02 A2996 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT NE SLP135 VIRGA SE-S T02170017 < 1490308578 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow we're looking at a possible blizzard. < 1490308635 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's odd, I believe you can still even *boot* the thing from a pair of floppies. < 1490308636 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now we're on alert for high fire risk. < 1490308648 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The drive works fine (I could even boot from some leftover Linux 2.1.x floppies), but if I boot from a Debian netinst USB stick there's no sign of the floppy drive anywhere. < 1490308684 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to smuggle in the floppy.ko file from the full-fledged jessie linux-image-* package in the hopes that I could just load it. < 1490308696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't copy that floppy.ko < 1490308738 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just burn a CD instead. < 1490308742 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shachaf) < 1490308896 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know this... But that was a really stupid thing to say about floppies... those things tended to get scratched far too often. So copying it would be the very first thing you'd do. < 1490308942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt people who sold you floppies minded too much? < 1490308954 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing, it actually worked. < 1490308962 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the BSA still exists, though they somehow don't stress the B anymore. < 1490308972 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that thing was from the era of the 3.25" floppies, which don't get damaged that easily. < 1490308981 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still fragile, but hey) < 1490308986 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: funny < 1490309008 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall any 3.25" disks ;-) < 1490309014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floppy Among the more provocative approaches BSA has taken is the Bust Your Boss! campaign that has appeared on billboards, printed publications and on the Internet with the following suggestion: "Is your current or former employer using pirated software in their office? Hit 'em where it really hurts - report their illegal software use today. < 1490309021 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Whoops. < 1490309025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: They were 3.25" when I was done with them. < 1490309032 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, there weren't any 3.5" either. < 1490309042 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :90mm != 3.5". < 1490309050 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I cut floppy disks open and made sunglasses out of them for a costume. < 1490309084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1490309093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a Zip drive < 1490309100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those things were too good. < 1490309104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 MB! < 1490309164 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: well, when I was in high school, there were many floppy disk drives used by too many careless people... basically I had floppies scratched every week. which led me to use cheap floppies... which turned out to be unreliable ;) < 1490309183 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't miss those days at all. < 1490309195 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not for the floppies anyway. < 1490309225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :High density floppies were too good. < 1490309248 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've still got an LS-120 drive around here. < 1490309256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.44MB! < 1490309271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's megabyte < 1490309272 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to plug that in and see if the Linux drivers for it have bitrot or not. < 1490309292 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's when they started to mix decimal and binary units < 1490309296 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, the actual capacity was 1440 kiB. < 1490309320 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same for the 1.2MB 5.25" floppies) < 1490309373 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: right. 2 sides, 90 tracks, 18 sectors, 512 bytes each. < 1490309374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people don't like it when I write units like MbHz < 1490309380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason. < 1490309419 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for some reason, the 5.25" disks had onle 15 sectors. probably some precision problem) < 1490309425 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*only < 1490309427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they only used FAT-12? < 1490309429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG < 1490309433 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The megabit-hertz seems a touch unusual. < 1490309447 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course, the FAT needs to be small!!!1 < 1490309454 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :metadata is such a waste < 1490309456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: It's a pretty popular unit. < 1490309486 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More for compatibility reasons; even DOS 2 supports FAT-12. < 1490309501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow Operating System < 1490309502 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as do some pre-MSDOS systems) < 1490309515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Are you still universitting? < 1490309528 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, huh, no; FAT-12 was first in QDOS. < 1490309530 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1490309548 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not literally this second. < 1490309578 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it good? < 1490309594 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly. < 1490309611 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One class has a professor that I think takes meth before showing up. < 1490309623 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's utterly incoherent and rambles on and on. < 1490309629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a meth < 1490309630 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think somewhere in there he might be discussing something. < 1490309650 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-methylamphetamine, a popular stimulant. < 1490309650 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( universitting is like dog sitting, but on a larger scale ) < 1490309753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yes, jutht thaying it's quite a meth he's gotten himthelf into hth < 1490309755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeth < 1490309793 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OIC < 1490309795 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ith thith a theeth joke? < 1490309842 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dhon' know, I think I'm thtill thalking a bith like thith. < 1490309874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you use two-factor authentication for your Google account? < 1490309879 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1490309885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which factors? < 1490309895 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Password, TOTP. < 1490309907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you do if you lost your TOTP machine? < 1490309932 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grab the security codes out of the safe I keep them in. < 1490309955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you were traveling and you lost all your things? < 1490309980 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have higher priority problems to deal with first. < 1490310004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :After you dealt with all the higher priority problems. < 1490310011 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1490310012 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. < 1490310017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1490310025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit worried, is all. < 1490310033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I memorized two security codes. < 1490310036 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Then I'd probably be able to get access to said safe? < 1490310051 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an already-logged-in device. < 1490310051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't want to access your Google account until you got home? < 1490310078 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this particular situation, I don't think that's too big of a deal. < 1490310098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1490310128 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably switch to using a U2F token, though. < 1490310140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering memorizing my TOTP secret. < 1490310143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y/n? < 1490310239 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"something you've forgotten, something you've lost, and something you were." < 1490310272 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in any case, https://xkcd.com/538/ seems relevant < 1490310351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1490310399 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff you memorize may be a liability < 1490310400 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the case of 2FA, what you're really protecting yourself against above all else is mass password cracks and leaks. < 1490310424 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it's a useful step against random Internet thugs. < 1490310437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :against random Internet hugs?! < 1490310448 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that is the most relevant attacker in my threat model) < 1490310504 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: the comic was for shachaf's plan of memorizing backup security codes < 1490310517 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I already memorized them. < 1490310521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unmemorize. < 1490310524 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "something you've lost" part was about the tokens of course < 1490310526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose I can regenerate them. < 1490310580 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't mean they're a bad idea as part of 2FA... they are worth little without the password < 1490310588 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s) < 1490310613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think traveling and having my computer and wallet and phone stolen isn't entirely unrealistic. < 1490310923 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:9066:2820:28b1:e0cf JOIN :#esoteric < 1490311798 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! 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