00:00:26 <Warrigal_> Smalltalk is pretty much simple enough that it doesn't need a core language.
00:00:43 <Warrigal_> I think the operations you can do in Smalltalk are pretty much...
00:01:12 <DHeadshot> Everything has a Core Language: Machine Code!
00:01:48 <Warrigal_> But machine code isn't simple at all. :D
00:02:32 <Warrigal_> Oh, and I guess Smalltalk also lets you obtain a couple of special values. Most notably thisContext.
00:02:51 <Phantom_Hoover> but like C-without-preprocessing is only a little bit smaller than C-with-preprocessing
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00:40:37 <zzo38> There is also different kind of machine codes
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01:41:43 <quintopia> did you make up a new machine code zzo38
01:46:34 <zzo38> I have done a few times, but not quite I suppose
01:51:41 <__kerbal__> Integbot's back for the first time in roughly a week, if any one wants to use him
01:57:13 <zzo38> With JPEG encoding it uses 8x8 blocks, so if the width or height is not a multiple of eight, then it is necessary to include some pixels which are not actually in the picture, as the input for the DCT for that block. What kind of heuristics are best for deciding those extra unused pixels?
01:58:13 <zzo38> I have tried a few ways: Using the nearest pixel seems usually is working best, but I have also made up two other ways which are sometimes better for some pictures it seem.
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08:51:50 <zzo38> Do you like this? http://www.chessvariants.com/invention/unknown-off-pieces-shogi
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10:55:35 <Taneb> Are there any window managers etc that support diagonal displays
10:59:00 <rdococ> why would someone make that?
10:59:17 <Taneb> I figured if someone had, this'd be the kind of place they'd hang out in
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15:57:56 <boily> how was the vacation?
16:01:00 <quintopia> it was every bit as vache as the name "vacation" would imply
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16:03:16 <boily> but there were vaches?
16:07:25 <quintopia> i took lots of pictures. twas fun.
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16:56:58 <__kerbal__> Ok, so I'm working on releasing Integ 1.2. I need a new motto. Last version's motto, courtesy of wob_jonas, was "So many parentheses everywhere."
16:57:17 <__kerbal__> A comparison operator and user-defined operators
16:57:45 <rdococ> An esoteric programming language composed of nothing but parentheses.
16:58:21 <rdococ> I do know we could use church numerals for numbers.
16:59:04 <rdococ> Maybe, but also in my idea.
16:59:19 <rdococ> It's been a while since I last tried my hand at esolanging.
16:59:33 <rdococ> Mainly because my attempts are usually too useful to be esoteric, but still.
16:59:47 <__kerbal__> rdococ: That's not a bad problem to have
17:00:03 <rdococ> I do have an esoteric non-programming-language, it's actually a media storage device named Khartridges.
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17:00:53 <__kerbal__> Ok, so if no one has any other suggestions, the official motto of Integ 1.2 will be "An esoteric programming language composed of nothing but parentheses."
17:00:57 <rdococ> They use battery-backed RAM, which instantly loses its data as soon as you remove the batteries that only last for a few months.
17:01:13 <rdococ> One plus, though, is that the batteries are rechargeable.
17:02:26 <rdococ> I also have an esolang based on slide rules. It's called Rule.
17:02:40 <zzo38> Are too useful to be esoteric? Some are already useful anyways, such as MMIX, FurryScript, and BANCSTAR (although is less useful now that not enough is known about it to be useful).
17:02:52 <zzo38> rdococ: OK, how is it working?
17:03:21 <rdococ> You mean how Rule works? It's on the website.
17:04:10 <zzo38> I have a slide rule.
17:05:14 <rdococ> I also have an esolang without assignments. It's called Assignless.
17:06:37 <rdococ> Rather than using assignments, you would pass the modified value on to a different subroutine.
17:07:24 <zzo38> Yes I looked at that too
17:10:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Rdococ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52241&oldid=51800 * Rdococ * (+106) Self-evaluations
17:14:37 <__kerbal__> Version 1.2 of Integ is live at https://github.com/kerbin111/Integ. It's probably really buggy at this point...
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17:42:32 <doesthiswork> that is too bad, have you looked in the rdococs for a solution?
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17:46:09 <rdococ> nope, no solution seems to be there.
17:47:19 <rdococ> I'll see if anyone can solve the issue on the fungot.
17:47:19 <fungot> rdococ: such as?) nothing to do with my actions that i know conflict with. simple math dictates the futility of your effort, i have, " interrogate paladin," as " par for.
17:52:06 <rdococ> Hm. An esolang without subroutines and assignment but with for..in.. loops and arrays would for.
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18:19:48 <doesthiswork> it isn't a loop in the sense traditionally meant
18:23:13 <rdococ> true, but you can disregard the variable.
18:23:58 <doesthiswork> a for .. in .. loop that appended new values onto the array as it looped would count
18:24:35 <rdococ> would it update though?
18:26:04 <rdococ> anyway, I count that as a form of assignment
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18:28:02 <doesthiswork> what if you were only able to append to a global anonymous queue
18:32:14 <doesthiswork> or appending didn't effect the array itself but only added things for this for in loop to process
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18:33:05 <rdococ> I still think my range(1, infinity) loop would suffice.
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18:33:22 <rdococ> It would take an infinite amount of time to process.
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19:48:42 <__kerbal__> Anybody want to help me test out a 1.2 beta version of Integbot in #esoteric-blah?
19:50:44 <__kerbal__> (and a comparison operator, and a revised comment syntax)
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20:09:34 <HackEgo> olist 1077: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
20:11:21 <shachaf> rdococ: would you just stop it
20:12:32 <rdococ> Sorry, I wasn't aware that the ellipsis wasn't allowed.
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21:04:12 <__kerbal__> Out of curiosity, how do you do * [action] here?
21:06:58 * int-e would hope that "/me would hope that '/me ...' does the trick." does the trick.
21:06:59 <zzo38> What IRC client are you using?
21:07:17 <zzo38> Depends on the client, I think
21:07:25 <__kerbal__> Nettalk, but I use the freenode webchat sometimes
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21:14:39 <Phantom_Hoover> zzo38, it 'depends on the client' but almost all clients use /me
21:15:23 <int-e> /ctcp #esoteric ACTION fumbles.
21:16:39 <int-e> (okay, that did wirk. irssi just didn't render that properly locally)
21:19:44 <HackEgo> corium//Corium is the material that a nuclear reactor's core dump is made of.
21:20:13 <int-e> . o O ( `wisdom not by me )
21:20:17 <HackEgo> tvtrope//We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first.
21:21:22 <shachaf> fizzie: please jam up HackEgo to support seeing the sender's username twh
21:23:27 <__kerbal__> Hey, is there a bot that does befunge in this channel?
21:23:47 <fungot> __kerbal__: wow, that is such a stupid magic item that can allow my power to fail me again. if arcane magic cannot break you, i've been a member, then.
21:24:08 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
21:24:12 <fungot> ^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
21:24:44 <int-e> hackego should have a befunge interpreter...
21:25:20 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: befunge: not found
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21:27:17 <int-e> `` cd ibin; echo *
21:27:17 <HackEgo> 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bf_txtgen boolfuck c cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck forth glass glypho haskell help java k kipple lambda lazyk linguine lua malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql sh slashes trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl
21:27:23 <int-e> `befunge98 whatever
21:27:24 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: befunge98: not found
21:27:34 <int-e> `interp befunge98 whatever
21:28:59 <int-e> `! befunge98 whatever
21:29:05 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: befunge: not found
21:30:07 <int-e> !bf ++++[>++++<-]>[>++++<-]>.
21:30:52 <__kerbal__> (I'm trying to pass the insanely difficult wiki recaptcha
21:31:12 <int-e> `! bf ++++[>++++<-]>[>++++<-]>.
21:31:16 <int-e> ! bf ++++[>++++<-]>[>++++<-]>.
21:31:42 <int-e> `! befunge 9342881541>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@
21:31:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Kerbal * New user account
21:32:32 <HackEgo> Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
21:32:52 <int-e> right. `! is imitating the old egobot interface
21:34:12 <int-e> ^bf ++++[>++++<-]>[>++++<-]>.
21:37:36 <int-e> I wonder whether shachaf ever used that...
21:39:29 <HackEgo> int-e: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
21:39:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52242&oldid=52237 * Kerbal * (+271)
21:39:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52243&oldid=52242 * Kerbal * (+77)
21:41:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Kerbal]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52244 * Kerbal * (+163) Created page with "Hi! I'm __kerbal__. I have created [[Integ]], an esolang infamous for abusing parentheses, and Integbot, a bot that interprets Integ and frequents #esoteric-blah."
21:42:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Kerbal]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52245 * Kerbal * (+62) Created page with "Here is my talk (or, if you are so inclined, complaints) page."
21:42:19 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: 歡迎: not found
21:42:50 <__kerbal__> Now, I guess I am going to flesh out the info about Integ.
21:43:05 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: 迎: not found
21:43:15 <shachaf> `cwlprits ../bin/\texrb{welcome}
21:44:55 <int-e> also is it worthwhile to finish all nodes in TIS 100? I have 6 left and they all look kind of tedious
21:45:31 <shachaf> I didn't play very much of that game. Probably less than you.
21:45:31 <int-e> (and I did finish the wave collapse supervisor)
21:46:17 <int-e> (which is the last node in the second (TIS-NET) level set)
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22:07:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Integ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52246&oldid=52201 * Kerbal * (+21041) THIS IS NOT DONE YET
22:07:40 <__kerbal__> That wiki edit is not done yet, so disregard the Befunge info being used as a template
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