< 1499472773 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That pun was just wrong < 1499472845 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bit contrived < 1499472907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may be missing some context. < 1499472986 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be < 1499472999 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1499473033 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does 2 ~ you? < 1499473063 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the square root function equal a screw? < 1499473080 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did I completely misinterpret it? < 1499473089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1499473100 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I completely misinterpreted it < 1499473103 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my badf < 1499473104 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1499473108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind the sqrt(2) thing. < 1499473116 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1499473175 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't my call anyway < 1499473217 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just be going now < 1499473221 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1499474079 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember in some speedruns of SMB2 there's a glitch area, in which mario has to navigate through memory without hitting blocks, then smash the one that brings him to the credits < 1499474218 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqjZCELEg5M < 1499474348 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that one, wait < 1499474402 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript people sometimes use "self" when they have to stick "this" into a variable for reasons. < 1499475253 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: yeah, those glitched runs are fun to watch. Metroid 2, Fusion, Zero Mission and Super Metroid even have some of the same techniques. < 1499475299 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you were ever going to design a game where the code exists in the same space as your simulation, you have to be sort of space-agnostic, meaning you can't favor any particular arrangement of objects. < 1499475327 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the techniques in the 2D metroid games are mostly only superficially similar < 1499475592 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to find the specific run that does the out-of-bounds thing < 1499475687 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx85PyLFwUk < 1499475695 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 5 minutes in. < 1499475706 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're walking around in memory regions. < 1499475847 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, you're always doing *that*, it's just not the memory regions you're intended to be walking around in. < 1499475856 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah. :P < 1499475860 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499476016 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re game where the game world represents game rules: (1) I have a vague hunch that one of the tasks in ICFP 2006 was like that, (2) it can sort of happen in games liek game boy super mario land 2 where you go out of bounds and end up in a glitched place where the game is reading the ROM as a game map, < 1499476032 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although you can't change ROM values, you can change variables in the RAM that way with surprising effects, < 1499476044 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick to what I'm thinking of is having areas that the user is _intended_ to be there in one form or another. < 1499476087 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3) imode has hit the nail with Excel, because Excel 3 macros might be the best example for something like this, since macros are represented in macro worksheets with one rule per cell, and those worksheets are very similar to ordinary worksheets < 1499476132 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except cells in them don't get their values automatically recomputed all the time, instead their values are only computed when macro execution steps there, and so editing the formulas works the same way in a macro worksheet as in an ordinary one. < 1499476427 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess editing the config file of your text editor with the same text editor is also sort of like that. < 1499476438 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. < 1499476464 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you have to consider what the space of your game can be. limiting things to 2 dimensions is a little.. eeh. < 1499476488 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said yesterday, excel is 3 dimensional. < 1499476498 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 was just an example. < 1499476555 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do a hunt the wumpus/trade wars kind of a thing where objects occupy abstract spaces like rooms. < 1499476585 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunt the wumpus is 2 dimensional < 1499476586 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fetch a character from the keyboard" really takes on a whole new meaning then. :P < 1499476633 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunt the wumpus is based on a dodecahedron, not necessarily two dimensional. < 1499476646 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could reduce it to a planar graph, yeah. < 1499476651 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I guess hunt the wumpus has holes you can fall into and die, so you could sort of count that as a third dimension < 1499476675 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the "space" you play in is inherently a graph. < 1499476688 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a uniform grid. < 1499476691 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bats that carry you to different rooms too < 1499477292 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played (a version of) hunt the wumpus on a complete graph before < 1499477519 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: with how many rooms, pits, and bats? < 1499477525 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1499477546 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh n rooms, I don't remember the exact details, let me grab them < 1499477783 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12532&lang=en < 1499477792 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :not complete graphs, I realize that wouldn't make much sense < 1499477871 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: thanks < 1499479645 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499481157 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499481732 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499481939 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499482009 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499482063 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1913@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.19 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1499484918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499485401 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:40a9:5662:9c0f:6797 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499486020 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:40a9:5662:9c0f:6797 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1499486853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Does the backup wiki link need to stay in the topic? < 1499487821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499488136 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1499488203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: wireworld is tg < 1499488213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't look at it in much detail before. < 1499489139 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:7531:cbe3:ca7c:e9a2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499489144 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :tg? < 1499489150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good < 1499489179 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good? :P < 1499489218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1499489221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means "good". < 1499489235 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what you mean by "too good". too good for what. < 1499489252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that I like it. < 1499489255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499489261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1499489264 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1499490294 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Wireworld is a great CA. < 1499492878 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1499492888 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouioui < 1499499237 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1499499319 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:7531:cbe3:ca7c:e9a2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1499501265 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1499501716 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499504620 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, google, why'd you put "shopping" where the image search used to be? That's evil, I say, evil. < 1499504664 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499504923 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d5152d058.static.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1499505330 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d5152d058.static.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1499506260 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, since 2008 we actually have speed of light communication in GoL ( http://www.gabrielnivasch.org/fun/life/lightspeed-signals ). < 1499506449 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499506497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1499506618 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still no lightspeed wire based communication < 1499506641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wire? < 1499506673 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Lightspeed_wire < 1499506791 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoL programming reminds me of how I felt when I first joined this channel < 1499506841 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :People doing impossible things that I barely understand < 1499506846 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amazing < 1499506906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was that? < 1499506937 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :...2010 or 2011 I think? < 1499507383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be pretty bummed out if we lose fshg < 1499507388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As they say. < 1499507656 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fshg < 1499507666 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no HackEgo < 1499507688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fshg is the HackEgo filesystem < 1499507693 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see! < 1499507695 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1499507708 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would we lose it? < 1499507722 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than HackEgo seems to have gotten lost < 1499507723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the server that was hosting HackEgo has disappeared. < 1499507798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You should invent a good build system. < 1499507889 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been learning abut nix at work, it seems pretty all right < 1499507909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it? < 1499507919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't actually do the work of the build system proper, I think. < 1499507935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just uses Cabal or Cargo or whatever. Right? < 1499507945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should learn about bazel twh < 1499507992 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that might be the case < 1499508002 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't bazel a city in Germany or Switzerland < 1499508014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the Nix language is very complicated. < 1499508027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't seem to be sufficiently declarative in the usual case. < 1499508042 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazel seems to be in Belgium. < 1499508069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Population (2003): 4,967 < 1499508081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many more than 5000 users of Bazel_(software) < 1499508449 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basel < 1499508500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sure, Basel. < 1499508903 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1499508986 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499509031 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1499510804 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499511732 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1499512396 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499515684 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reddit comments imply that at least for some people, they can create new servers on CaC, it's just the old ones that are not working. < 1499515783 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You might have some luck at power-cycling off / on from the console thingie now. (Or not. Probably not. But there's some success stories.) < 1499515868 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Gregor < 1499515869 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Gregor is Sat Jul 8 07:11:09 < 1499515885 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not the most bestest time to expect a response. < 1499516485 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have a backup of the fshg repo as well? < 1499516523 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shachaf was worrying about that) < 1499516646 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, and no. < 1499516646 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I do have one from 2013. < 1499516657 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shachaf knows this) < 1499516666 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. I didn't. < 1499516682 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll set up something periodic if it comes back up, but the only thing that I had was for the wiki. < 1499516692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a lot of IRC logs I can try replaying. ;) < 1499516754 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy! < 1499517694 0 :S1!~s1feha@ip4d16fc51.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1499517763 0 :S1!~s1feha@ip4d16fc51.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de PART #esoteric : < 1499518848 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I've never understood: since the Games Done Quick schedule page has that JavaScript to convert all the dates and times to your local time zone, why can't it add a marker to show the current time, or dehighlight (lowlight?) the ones that are in the past, or something. < 1499519631 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1499519881 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1499519959 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499519990 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re HackEgo's state, replaying from the channel is not easy though, because sometimes I edit with multiple lines in private message then show the result here. < 1499520159 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, and there's also `fetch. < 1499520176 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be interesting to try anyway, to see where it diverges and how badly it goes wrong. < 1499520176 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other nondeterminism < 1499520661 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1499522126 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499522405 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ohgoqhzepabnhjys QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499522923 0 :Mayoi!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1499523148 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1499523655 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-plujllldqdpdyxtz JOIN :#esoteric < 1499524714 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499525218 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1499525387 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( For this magic trick you'll need: A piece of string, a deck of cards, an identical twin, and a shoe box. ) < 1499525863 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499526117 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1499526428 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499526830 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499526838 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PART #esoteric : < 1499528350 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499529520 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's back. I didn't even realize. < 1499529537 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1499529546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1499529552 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow and steady wins the race. < 1499529575 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably means I can re-point DNS things at the real deal. < 1499529579 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1499529581 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the real thing? < 1499529581 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1499529583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moth//Moths are the main ingredient of mothballs. < 1499529589 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`scheme < 1499529589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil Comes to Fruition < 1499529590 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1499529591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ not overcook. Seal and discard the meat \ with the chili powder and dust the lengthwise. \ \ Cover with fennel steak around the heat and beat in the cornstarch or water and soy sauce. \ Remove the broiler in a serving bowl. Stir together the olive oil, and \ salt together until mixture. Add the bread crumbs and heat well in a \ small bow < 1499529600 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, someone save it before it disappears again < 1499529635 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log -l 1 < 1499529636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 11076:58a63c67dd0c \ tag: tip \ user: HackBot \ date: Wed Jul 05 23:03:15 2017 +0000 \ summary: slwd `1//s,almost ,, < 1499529645 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do a clone of the repository. < 1499529654 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1499530002 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also updated esolangs.org to point at the real thing, and thanks to the low TTL it should this time take only five minutes to propagate. < 1499530036 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint 1+4+3+3+3+4+4+1 < 1499530037 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 < 1499530448 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1499530714 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1499530859 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cloned. Also added updating it to be part of the weekly esowiki backup. < 1499530877 0 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie TOPIC #esoteric :mermaid umpires | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyhqyvy3i8oh25m/wisdom.pdf | For bot testing, use #esoteric-blah < 1499530878 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1499531012 0 :Mayoi!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499531225 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499531454 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499535347 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hungary < 1499535348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungary? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1499535365 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn hungary//Hungary is the country where everyone is vary hungry. < 1499535367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'hungary': Hungary is the country where everyone is vary hungry. < 1499535689 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subject: [RESOLVED] host_down (esolangs.org) < 1499535794 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the article about Amycus and in the part mentioninghow to make successor/predecessor of lists, I think the commas is supposed to be colons? < 1499535854 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wait, let me look up what you're talking about < 1499535972 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Amycus#Implementing < 1499535981 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you're probably right < 1499536117 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure the rules are right < 1499536348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52396&oldid=46671 5* 03B jonas 5* (+7) 10/* Implementing */ < 1499536375 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope they are < 1499536519 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52397&oldid=52396 5* 03B jonas 5* (+0) 10/* Implementing */ < 1499536567 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: are you real or an identical twin? < 1499537418 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499537651 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was worried about the existence of a backup, not specifically a copy you have. < 1499537826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Integ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52398&oldid=52389 5* 03Kerbal 5* (-123) 10 < 1499537883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1080 < 1499537883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1080: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1499537938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hurl < 1499537938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/ < 1499538013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: This is one reason editing in /msg is discouraged. < 1499538049 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1499538168 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually do sed in /msg, and then repeat the final thing with -i here. (I don't hold with these newfangled sleds and whatnot.) < 1499538202 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499538314 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499538341 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That would be a good feature for sled. < 1499538354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, a preview mode. < 1499538438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1499538439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1499538443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is back to normal < 1499538456 0 :__kerbal___!?@? NICK :__kerbal__ < 1499538903 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d5152d058.static.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1499539435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1499539606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs HackEgo  < 1499539615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack < 1499539616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>:-D < 1499539701 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499539781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnake < 1499539781 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1499539875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botspank < 1499539875 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1499539911 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let's see if we can get int-e to finally add channel-based levenshtein distances as he's threatened to) < 1499539913 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PART #esoteric : < 1499539919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1499539940 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I have found a simpler solution to the problem. < 1499539956 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1499540647 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499540704 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1499541088 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo < 1499541093 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you disabled it < 1499541225 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do a thing besides demonstrating the fact that having lambdabot on this channel is entirely optional. < 1499541288 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1499541585 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d5152d058.static.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1499541783 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1499541853 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499541938 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499541950 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:2dc8:4d2f:a603:2c8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1499542164 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499542181 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: HackEgo and the esowiki are back < 1499542197 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1499542207 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was aware that there were problems but trusted that they'd be sorted out < 1499542214 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still on Cloud At Cost or has it migrated providers? < 1499542259 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still on CaC < 1499542924 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1499543089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan didn't appreciate my pun tdnh <-- i'd have to find it first twh < 1499543191 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google this C++ < 1499543193 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.geeksforgeeks.org/this-pointer-in-c/ < 1499543193 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: 'this' pointer in C++ - GeeksforGeeks < 1499543220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this < 1499543221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a word < 1499543245 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( this is me in C++ ) < 1499543300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: C++ is TG < 1499543313 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote int-e C++ < 1499543313 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"C++" (line 1, column 3): < 1499543313 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected '+' < 1499543313 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $, an atom, "|" or end of input) < 1499543317 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote int-e C\+\+ < 1499543317 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e says: C++ does make a reasonably usable high-level assembler < 1499543355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is nothing like assembler. It produces ridiculously inefficient code without an optimizer. < 1499543364 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was generating deeply nested loops with templates at the time.) < 1499543368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much recursive template expansion. < 1499543405 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So yes, I did effectively use it as a HLA, or perhaps HLC.) < 1499543406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally finds shachaf's pun -----### < 1499543470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why C++ doesn't allow this to be null? < 1499543472 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just stay away from objects and virtual methods and it'll be fine... except that compile time may be slow, and if you're unlucky your code won't fit into the cache. < 1499543552 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so that compilers can optimize (this == NULL) checks away without violating the standard. < 1499543558 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499543564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's a good language for producing efficient code. < 1499543584 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which may be the result of inlining a function that has such a check, but is invoked with `this` as its argument) < 1499543589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++17 is TG < 1499543611 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're overusing "tg", hth. < 1499543668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Triple Threat14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52399&oldid=52393 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+23) 10 < 1499543689 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :1? TG < 1499543694 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? TG < 1499543694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. < 1499543717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellobden < 1499543726 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shichaf < 1499543774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like LevelDB? < 1499543802 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't say I'd ever heard of it before < 1499543804 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you trying to become zzo38? < 1499543838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what I do. < 1499543839 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it looks neat maybe < 1499543865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using "you" in the zzo38 sense, certainly. < 1499544089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Does the backup wiki link need to stay in the topic? <-- i left it in because the DNS needs to propagate... < 1499544107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*needed < 1499544148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1499544149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1499544154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1499544155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. < 1499544166 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still getting wiki requests on the backup machine, even though I had a TTL of 5 minutes in the temporary entry. < 1499544209 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, at the moment it seems to be only "AhrefsBot/5.2". < 1499544244 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've configured to log the host name used to access it, maybe something already started crawling the address that formerly was in the topic. < 1499544317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where would they get that address though... < 1499544331 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel logs, maybe. < 1499544385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ahrefsbot" sounds like something that follows