< 1502582644 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the build process seems to insist on making the kernel 32bit but everything else 64bit < 1502582869 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how you specify the host architecture for the kernel build, and I don't have any notes on how I built my test setup. < 1502582924 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i figured it out. SUBARCH=x86_64 < 1502582934 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I just did "make ARCH=um", and got a 64-bit executable out. < 1502582945 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, for me it insists on 32bit on a 64bit box :P < 1502583091 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like that has quasi-recently changed as well. < 1502583320 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :From arch/x86/um/Makefile, it looks more like it depends on if CONFIG_X86_32 is set or not. < 1502583357 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'unno. Maybe that's indirectly from SUBARCH. < 1502583869 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, thanks for the help. Works now :D < 1502584404 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1502585441 0 :copumpkin!copumpkinm@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1502587430 0 :copumpkin!copumpkinm@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1502587987 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1502588192 0 :augur!~augur@104.236.181.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1502588845 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:b9db:1a05:202c:a6ff QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1502588889 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be JOIN :#esoteric < 1502589527 0 :augur!~augur@104.236.181.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1502589737 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1502590004 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1502591024 0 :copumpkin!copumpkinm@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1502591045 0 :copumpkin!copumpkinm@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1502591485 0 :copumpkin!copumpkinm@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1502591932 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1502592474 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1502592474 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 130127Z 06003KT 15SM TS FEW007 SCT030CB BKN075 18/16 A2973 RMK SF1CB4AC3 SF TR LTGCG SW OCNL -SHRA SLP070 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1502593427 0 :Antoxyde!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-654-1-74-48.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1502593881 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 QUIT :Quit: See ya! o/ < 1502593990 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1502594681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:HereToAnnoy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52721&oldid=52717 5* 03HereToAnnoy 5* (+69) 10 < 1502594993 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 QUIT :Quit: ANACHRONISTIC CHICKEN < 1502595435 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1502595877 0 :joast!~rick@2606:6000:44c5:f1f0:40e3:a9ff:feca:59e6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1502597578 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concept: Programming language which forces CPS on all programs written in it. < 1502597712 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have some idea how that might be done? < 1502597798 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was planning on attempting to combine CPS with coroutines, rather than subroutines. < 1502597840 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, there probably wouldn't be much of a difference anyway. < 1502597868 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, a possible method of forcing CPS would be to halt the program on a function return. < 1502598193 0 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-146-225-175.natnow.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1502599349 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes, im bugging you again, but how is hackego's env set up? -B is obviously unsecure (i checked) < 1502599367 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait.. oh dev files dont translate outwards do they? < 1502599817 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any hardware implementation of MIX (including punch cards and that stuff)? < 1502600013 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I've been working on one of those < 1502600021 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not happy with the details but they're details unrelated to CPS < 1502600041 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're interested in just the CPS stuff, I can write up what I have so far (but not tonight) < 1502600053 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write up...? < 1502600074 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :article on the wiki < 1502600105 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay... I guess...? < 1502600152 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you said you were interested in a language which forces CPS < 1502600166 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I could write an article on my language that does that, even though it doesn't do other things I wanted it to < 1502600312 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning on creating a language which forces CPS, but I don't want you to write an article on it if you don't want to. < 1502600327 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, what other things do you want it to do? < 1502600364 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted it to naturally have efficient (eigenratio 1) self-interpreters < 1502600377 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a few syntax requirements but those are easy < 1502600405 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in particular, a syntax that makes self-interpreters as simple as possible to write) < 1502600695 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : sooner or later someone is gonna patent air and make people pay fees to breath — http://theineptowl.com/2013/02/07/businessman-sells-canned-air-china-cocacola-pepsi-nestle-vie-patent/ < 1502600786 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "eigenratio"? < 1502600815 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok, according to real news sites, there wasn't actually any patent being sold) < 1502600870 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, they do not mention patent rights anywhere) < 1502601000 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1502601045 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1502601122 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can run a self-interpreter on itself, and then run a self-interpreter on that, etc., to make a chain of self-interpreters; the eigenratio is the limit of the ratio between the performance of a self-interpreter stack of size n and a self-interpreter stack of size n+1 < 1502601134 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1502601158 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it measures how much slower a language is interpreted compared to running natively < 1502601185 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1502601315 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the measure of the performance going to be? MMIX has two kind of time units ("oops" and "mems"), for example. Some programming languages don't specify any kind of timing. Does it even matter? < 1502601451 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1502601452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ cmd="${1-quote}" \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$cmd" | rnooodl < 1502602598 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1502602640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Arrows14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52722 5* 03HereToAnnoy 5* (+193) 10Created page with "Arrows is a W.I.P Esolang by User:HereToAnnoy that only accepts UTF8/Unicode arrows. A list of accepted arrows can be found <> is a nicer one. < 1502635311 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( that is, we have palindromic fish: ><> >(> ... even )(() looks a bit fishy... but can we make palindromic chicken? ) < 1502635473 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp palin < 1502635480 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ي < 1502635481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :palindrome:A palindrome is a word that remains the same if you take it to the mirror dimension, and then take each individual letter back to the normal dimension separately. < 1502635511 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ي < 1502635512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+064A ARABIC LETTER YEH] < 1502635527 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh has always looked like a chicken to me < 1502635650 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess 鶏 would be palindromic. < 1502635710 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :single characters are cheating. < 1502635820 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do Ara taste like chicken? < 1502635915 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, shachaf should love this palindrome: "POOCHCOOP" < 1502635955 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ara ara... < 1502636037 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google aibohphobia < 1502636039 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aibohphobia < 1502636183 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"poop – a raised deck at the stern of a ship; various other meanings" < 1502636627 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1502637249 0 :zseri!4d16fd7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.22.253.126 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1502638317 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1502639020 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1502639453 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1502640055 0 :zseri!5e86c522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.197.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1502640385 0 :HTTP_____GK1wmSU!~PYATIBRAT@31.3.153.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1502640560 0 :HTTP_____GK1wmSU!~PYATIBRAT@31.3.153.136 PART #esoteric : < 1502641042 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1502641171 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1502641707 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1502641882 0 :Antoxyde_!~Antoxyde@185.159.156.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1502642432 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1502644034 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1502645240 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1502645737 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1502645812 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1502647487 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1502648594 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1502649059 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1502649149 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1502649161 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops I found a few other bugs in my MIX assembler; "CON -0" results in positive zero by mistake, and equal sign expressions will make multiple copies of the same expression instead of just one; that is in addition to needing to add support for base other than base 100. < 1502649502 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1502650369 0 :Antoxyde!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-654-1-74-48.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1502651618 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1502651618 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 131800Z 30009G15KT 250V310 30SM SCT060 SCT220 24/11 A2982 RMK CU4CI1 CI TR SLP098 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1502651797 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1502653669 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4000:46b5:d5a4:1f90:2c63:3003 JOIN :#esoteric < 1502653910 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4000:46b5:d5a4:1f90:2c63:3003 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1502655095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52739&oldid=52665 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+2218) 10+[[MIX (Knuth)]] < 1502655292 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote the implementation of Deadfish on MIX. < 1502655418 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1502655643 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Deadfish#MIX_.28Knuth.29 < 1502657000 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1502657032 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1502657457 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1502657789 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1502658986 0 :zseri!5e86c522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.197.34 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1502659197 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1502659670 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1502659793 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1502660292 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1502660297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:croissont supplier//See misspellings of croissant \ dy//dx = y \ 6 random numbers//4 8 15 16 23 42 \ gene ray//Dr Gene Ray is the Greatest Philosopher, and is the Greatest Mathematician. Cubic Harmonics. Only Cubic Harmonics can save humanity. Cubic Harmonics will pacify all religions. 96-hour Cubic Day debunks 1-day unnatural god. 96-hour day < 1502660364 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1502660365 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:willdisprove disunity god. Academians are teaching - pseudocience. Worshipping a Word God will destroy the USA. \ mussel//Mussels are boily's natural enemies. Fortunately he runs faster than them. < 1502661971 0 :iczero!~iczero@unaffiliated/iczero JOIN :#esoteric < 1502661979 0 :iczero!~iczero@unaffiliated/iczero PART #esoteric :"bye" < 1502662235 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1502662803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Arrows14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52740&oldid=52728 5* 03HereToAnnoy 5* (+168) 10 < 1502662945 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1502663108 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1502664178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52741&oldid=52730 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+79) 10 < 1502664230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52742&oldid=52741 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+6) 10/* Implicit I/O */ < 1502664302 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1502664828 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1502664914 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1502665366 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make the calculation listed in the Wikipedia article about "Midheaven", but sometimes the result is in the wrong quadrant. < 1502665366 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1502665892 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1502666210 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.225.177.250 QUIT :Quit: SPARKLE CHICKEN < 1502666698 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it out < 1502667287 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1502667457 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Arrows14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52743&oldid=52740 5* 03HereToAnnoy 5* (+131) 10 < 1502668338 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to compute the position of the International Space Station? < 1502668611 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found "statistics as of 9 March 2011" on Wikipedia, but they do not match the elements needed by Swiss Ephemeris in the seorbel.txt file.