< 1506038723 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@guest-nat.fw1.untrust.mtv2.mozilla.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506039282 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1506039862 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506040523 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1506040638 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1506042556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, apparently shift-space scrolls one page upwards in my browser (I just pressed it by accident then tried to figure out what had happened) < 1506042762 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@guest-nat.fw1.untrust.mtv2.mozilla.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506043994 0 :Antoxyde__!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-652-1-455-224.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506044792 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506045633 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506045856 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506046801 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506046967 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1506047007 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506048534 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506048916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to the international hypercube for esoteric programming language design and deployment! | http://esolangs.org | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyhqyvy3i8oh25m/wisdom.pdf < 1506049222 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 QUIT :Quit: See ya! o/ < 1506049376 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506049601 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506050016 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1506050055 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506051979 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1506052013 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506052082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does that. And web pages that override space to do their own scrolling hardly ever remember to override shift-space. Very annoying. < 1506052358 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506052359 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506052386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :web pages are _able_ to override navigation keys. Very meta-annoying. < 1506052582 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that annoys me is how the proportion of web pages that use JavaScript is much, much higher than the proportion of web pages that actually need it < 1506052722 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :microtransactions would solve that. Clients could charge the host a small fee for every line of script executed. < 1506052786 0 :Hooloovo0!znc@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is such a horrifically bad idea but I like it < 1506052787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems hard to implement in other ways < 1506052806 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good fix would be for search engines to penalise sites with unnecessary JS < 1506052822 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Google will never do that as they're one of the main beneficiaries (adverts are a common use of unnecessary JavaScript) < 1506052833 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and Google Analytics is another) < 1506052836 0 :Hooloovo0!znc@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet you could get DDG to do it < 1506052850 0 :Hooloovo0!znc@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wrote the code, I guess < 1506052925 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duckduckgo can't easily give bonuses or penalties to sites, as they mostly don't run their own crawlers, but instead hire other engines' < 1506052997 0 :Hooloovo0!znc@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I see < 1506053078 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1506054449 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PART #esoteric : < 1506054486 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506054564 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506054582 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hit ctrl-w on the wrong tab < 1506054748 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506055063 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506056158 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1506056162 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506057001 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1506057046 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506057817 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506058971 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506059321 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506059429 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1506060204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1506063873 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1506065241 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506065633 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.52.24.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506066015 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.52.24.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1506067755 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506070154 0 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:tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506076548 0 :Antoxyde!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-652-1-452-73.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1506076708 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506076837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Thf772 5* 10New user account < 1506077027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506077580 0 :rodgort`!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1506077819 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506077917 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" something that annoys me is how the proportion of web pages that use JavaScript is much, much higher than the proportion of web pages that actually need it" => yes, and many of them use javascript that needs a huge computer to just run it < 1506077938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53101&oldid=53099 5* 03Thf772 5* (+735) 10/* Introducing Nathan/Eilisha Shiraini */ < 1506077942 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they keep changing existing sites to contain more and more performance hungry client-side scripting (youtube is a recent example for such a stupid change) < 1506078021 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" but Google will never do that as they're one of the main beneficiaries (adverts are a common use of unnecessary JavaScript)" => the adverts don't actually need all that much javascript. you could practically do them with just iframes and no javascript, the javascript is only there to simplify it or size the iframe right or something. < 1506078044 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506078050 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: they shouldn't need the JavaScript; nonetheless, disabling JavaScript pretty much universally blocks adverts < 1506078059 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's unnecessary even in the adverts themselves < 1506078069 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's an attempt to track the users of the sites the adverts are on < 1506078084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but at least most of the ads don't use javascript that needs a very powerful machine to run it, except for the ads on wikia < 1506078093 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506078094 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the video ads on video sites < 1506078102 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :video sharing sites < 1506078190 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, the javascript isn't really needed for tracking. you need the separate iframe for the ad because the ad is personalized and so google can't allow the individual websites to find out what ad they're serving for particular users, and iframes are practically the only way to solve this, < 1506078211 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once you have an iframe, that's more or less enough to track the users. < 1506078288 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want such complicated things as transferring all the mouse movements and all the characters you type in input fields even before you backspace or don't submit the form, which google could do with the javascript, but presumably if they did it too obviously, there'd be a strong backlash from the sites that show those ads. < 1506078344 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so google can only do it on their own sites, which is still quite important, with google search and gmail and youtube and their other big sites. < 1506078357 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506078362 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me, a question about google < 1506078386 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they hiding google scholar? it's not even in the "more" menu of the google search now, and it's been like this for years. < 1506078417 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they also aren't discontinuing it, in fact they've improved it so it does a lot of personalized tracking, and recommends you articles connected to your articles, like the academic spambots do < 1506078458 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's still in their big "More" menu that lists all their sites, but that's a huge list few people read I think < 1506078508 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be just in the selection bar for searches which has "All, Images, Videos, News, Maps, Books" and used to also have shopping blogs, scholar, code etc, some of them in a pulldown menu < 1506078538 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand when they discontinue a service, but I don't get why they keep running and improving a service but hiding it. < 1506078675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their discontinued services include code hosting (probably got taken over by github and its kin), code search (this was very useful, but proably didn't bring much income), Square (I'm not sure if anyone used it much), and Wave (which was some kind of social communication thingy like Plus I think). < 1506078704 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and shopping search is discontinued too. < 1506078731 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the moon and mars maps I think, but those were always just a joke. < 1506078806 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those maps were pretty impossible by the way, they seemed to show higher resolution maps than space agencies ever scanned with their probes. I don't know how they got that data. < 1506079459 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: bedtime < 1506080505 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506082907 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/belleveinvis/status/911172578831622144 ← this reminds me of the problem of overstriking… I guess one could argue ⿻ is a reasonable way to encode general-purpose overstriking < 1506082955 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, even outside of CJK glyphs < 1506083540 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506083577 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506085519 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506085639 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506085786 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506085878 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1506086097 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506086700 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506087062 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506087223 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CD7A.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1506088830 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506089523 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1506089767 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506090045 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1506090165 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1506090909 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506091157 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1506091841 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506092962 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1506093261 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@128.93.82.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1506095219 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1506095229 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1506096183 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506096305 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506096341 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.52.24.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506096908 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1506096925 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506097155 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1506097424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506097735 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1506097777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainCube14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53102 5* 03CANICVS 5* (+4145) 10Initial commit < 1506097853 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-209-050.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1506098111 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506098368 0 :lezsakdomi!~led@1F2ECCD0.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1506100032 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1506100211 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1506100457 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-108-154.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506100501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506100520 0 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-249-177-44.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1506100554 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1506100555 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ per serving. Makes about 3 days and test with serving \ remaining remaining sugar mixture. Microwave each one casserole in cool \ sides. 3. In a large bowl, combine flour, cinnamon, cream and \ the corn drained rosemary seed. Sprinkle with ganzies. Add \ chicken in saucepan. Simmer for an hour. Prepare fruit of soup. Spread \ squares. \ < 1506100575 0 :lezsakdomi!~led@1F2ECCD0.catv.pool.telekom.hu PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1506100579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1506100896 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1506100950 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.52.24.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1506101082 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CD7A.versanet.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1506101630 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506101881 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506102923 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506103087 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506103417 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1506103539 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:5493:a419:b5bd:e57f JOIN :#esoteric < 1506103867 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:5493:a419:b5bd:e57f QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1506104005 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.52.24.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506105387 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506105436 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506106393 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506107315 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a JOIN :#esoteric < 1506107405 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a QUIT :Client Quit < 1506107414 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a JOIN :#esoteric < 1506107420 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1506107827 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506109186 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506109196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Zseri14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53103&oldid=52989 5* 03Zseri 5* (+10) 10+XTW < 1506110758 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506110869 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone! am I right that algo in O(2^n) complexity is in P? or...? < 1506111002 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic, I think you are not right. Any polynomial in n tends to less than 2^n < 1506111020 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OK... so what class this could be? < 1506111051 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic, EXPTIME I Think < 1506111062 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: thanks for the idea! < 1506111145 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is what I think. to solve SAT problem (in CNF) form, we can just brute force all variables. this is 2^variables steps in total. does it mean that bruteforcer is in EXPTIME? < 1506111167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03GilDev 5* 10New user account < 1506111242 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic, that sounds right < 1506111257 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: thanks < 1506111278 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We know that SAT is in NP, however < 1506111310 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes. but EXPTIME and bruteforce is "slower" than usual SAT solver? < 1506111323 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1506111468 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1506111490 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1506111951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53104&oldid=53101 5* 03GilDev 5* (+272) 10Presentation < 1506112474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53105&oldid=53072 5* 03GilDev 5* (-3) 10Fixed broken link < 1506112664 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree too many pages have scripts when they shouldn't have. (Sometimes it may be useful to verify form data, although it should never be a requirement, and the server should verify it too so that it work if script is not enabled.) < 1506112853 0 :Antoxyde!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-652-1-452-73.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506113612 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1506113616 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1506116542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SimPPLe14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53106 5* 03YourDeathIsComing 5* (+1914) 10Created page with "'''SimPPLe (Simple Probabilistic Programming Language)''' is a probabilistic programming language. Most programs written in this language, produce different results every time..." < 1506118046 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1506119928 0 :SigmundYx!~quassel@197.0.170.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506120036 0 :SigmundYx!~quassel@197.0.170.47 QUIT :Client Quit < 1506120588 0 :Dr_Groove!~space@aylmpq0104w-lp130-06-74-12-211-228.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1506120604 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1506120702 0 :Dr_Groove!~space@aylmpq0104w-lp130-06-74-12-211-228.dsl.bell.ca PART #esoteric : < 1506120790 0 :sdhand!?@? NICK :ErroneousNicknam < 1506120795 0 :ErroneousNicknam!?@? NICK :Erroneous_Nickna < 1506120799 0 :Erroneous_Nickna!?@? NICK :sdhand < 1506121762 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506121906 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.52.24.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1506123486 0 :doesthiswork1!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506123486 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1506124469 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506124469 0 :doesthiswork1!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1506124618 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506124677 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1506124686 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric