00:19:56 -!- imode has joined. 00:36:27 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:43:08 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:43:24 -!- fungot has joined. 00:57:18 <\oren\> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Lake&diff=810659041&oldid=810658953 00:57:31 <\oren\> wikipedia edit war 01:08:06 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 01:16:44 Ello, hppavilion[1] (if you don't mind me pinging you right now. I mean, this is only once, but I do know of people that are, somewhat justifiably, annoyed by me doing that kind of thing). 01:17:06 It's fine. 01:19:38 I'm still experimenting (well, thought experimenting, anyway) with the idea of using the 'lem/cc' primitive to define functions when there aren't any specialized functions. 01:19:51 s/functions/syntactical forms for function definitions 01:20:21 As in, "function (...) {...}" would be invalid, but you'd be able to use "lem/cc" to recreate the effects of a function. 01:28:42 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 01:33:54 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 01:41:05 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:49:47 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 01:50:37 'Ello, doesthiswork. Doesyourinternetwork? Itlookslikeyourepingingout. 01:51:51 my girlfriend wants her video to load faster so I'm turning off my connection except when I need to load a page so that she knows that it's not my fault 01:55:00 -!- hppavilion[0] has joined. 01:56:36 Ah. 01:58:29 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:05:21 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:22:01 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:24:29 -!- augur has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 02:40:20 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 02:53:21 thats ridiculous doesthiswork 02:53:30 its obviously your fault 02:53:43 regardless of whether you are connected 02:54:55 maybe its your fault because you didnt buy good enough i ternet service or chose to live in a broadband desert 02:55:22 but its definitely not /her/ fault regardless 03:08:59 And also staring at a loading screen for an hour has a way of fraying the nerves 03:41:18 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! 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To create a 1 use two of the same character in a..." 11:08:08 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:08:21 -!- ais523 has joined. 11:10:03 Oh I see! It's a stupid joke 11:10:26 I was wondering why they updated the article https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/unstable-mechanics-2017-11-13 in place (and announced that they would do that in advance) rather than make a second article. 11:10:45 It's because they *augmented* the article with more text, they same way you augment the host creature. Duh. 11:11:08 This is groanworthy the same way as a pun is. 11:14:12 `hi b_jonas 11:14:19 Hi b_jonas. Honas. 11:14:31 That doesn't seem right... 11:14:49 try hello instead of hi? 11:14:56 `hello b_jonas 11:14:57 hello world 11:15:08 yeah, that doesn't work. that's the stupid hello world script I created 11:15:13 `? hello 11:15:15 hello hello hello, what's all this then? 11:15:20 `? `hello 11:15:21 `2017 hello 11:15:21 ​`hello prints variants of hello, world. To control format, pass a single letter as command-line argument. "@"=>"hello, world", "H"=>"hello, world.", P=>"hello, world!", "X"=>"hello, world,", take 1 letter later to s/h/H/, 2 letter later to s/d,/d/, 4 letter later to s/w/W/, lowercase to remove newline. 11:15:21 Hello, world! 11:15:28 `cat bin/2017 11:15:29 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) = "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi 11:15:35 `2016 11:15:36 No output. 11:17:19 What's with this US tax proposal, anyway? 11:34:51 -!- boily has joined. 11:34:57 @massages-loud 11:34:57 shachaf said 1d 2h 44m 9s ago: ysaclist 68 11:34:57 quintopia said 17h 52m 40s ago: I probably can't 22, but I may be able to 26 11:35:11 shachaf: helloochaf. yay! 11:35:34 @tell quintopia QUINTHELLOPIA. 26 sounds good. 11:35:34 Consider it noted. 11:49:27 -!- LKoen has joined. 11:51:04 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 11:53:11 shachaf: maybe it's smart and the singularity is just around the corner... no need to waste money on grad students 11:55:21 But I think it's just a cynical move, and quite probably stupid (US is becoming increasingly unattractive for aspiring academics.) 11:59:58 int-e: Is that the change most visible from across the ocean? 12:07:22 "US is becoming increasingly unattractive for aspiring academics." => very true. and reputedly it's mostly students from asia who get the bad end of that. 12:07:43 if only the situation was not so messed up in Europe, I'd be happy with that, because we'd get all the students here. 12:08:38 But for now, America, Europe, and Israel are all messed up, so people can't go anywhere reasonable to do graduate education and science work and conferences. 12:09:03 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 12:09:20 shachaf: so your answer is, yes, but across the other ocean mostly 12:09:26 shachaf: I don't know. I've learned about the change from https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/opinion/house-tax-bill-graduate-students.html (via a blog) 12:15:03 shachaf: outside of my bubble it seems people focus on estate tax and corporate tax, which I guess are the two items with the biggest financial impact. 12:15:55 itym death tax hth 12:16:33 I don't really understand the widespread opposition to the estate tax. 12:16:49 -!- boily has quit (Quit: SCARED CHICKEN). 12:17:02 If there is such an opposition, which maybe there isn't. 12:20:15 I understand Trump's opposition to the estate tax... and other rich people... so the leadership of the Republican party... 12:22:15 Sure. 12:26:30 While you're at it maybe you can explain the Republican party's position on healthcare to me? 12:26:58 rich people pay for their own healthcare anyway? 12:27:19 (so no need to contribute money to public health care) 12:44:05 -!- garit has joined. 13:05:07 -!- jaboja has joined. 13:29:19 -!- Remavas has joined. 13:36:40 -!- Remavas has quit (Quit: Leaving). 13:50:16 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 14:06:28 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:08:10 -!- fungot has joined. 14:23:05 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:44:50 -!- `^_^v has joined. 15:10:49 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 15:32:00 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 15:33:53 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 16:22:21 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:41:00 -!- idris-bot has quit (Quit: Terminated). 16:41:39 -!- jaboja has joined. 16:42:11 -!- Melvar has quit (Quit: rebooting). 16:45:46 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53376&oldid=53332 * Avuxo * (+12) /* P */ 16:50:03 -!- Melvar has joined. 17:03:42 -!- Vorpal has joined. 17:09:04 -!- idris-bot has joined. 17:31:23 -!- tomahawk has joined. 17:40:14 -!- tomahawk has quit (Quit: i want depatsy and cure of baby boy, but not am baby boy, and i have soul products grow soul works with no brain, and Japan my friends, even if bad. no magick in Dante VATICAN). 18:14:05 -!- lleu has joined. 18:14:06 -!- lleu has quit (Changing host). 18:14:06 -!- lleu has joined. 18:14:14 -!- lleu has changed nick to ceit. 18:17:19 -!- ceit has changed nick to ceit`. 18:17:50 -!- ceit` has changed nick to `ceit`. 18:17:58 -!- `ceit` has changed nick to ``ceit``. 18:18:28 -!- imode has joined. 18:22:12 -!- ``ceit`` has changed nick to ceit. 18:24:44 -!- ceit has changed nick to ``ceit``. 18:25:48 -!- ``ceit`` has changed nick to ceit. 18:25:51 -!- ceit has quit (Quit: That's what she said). 18:48:58 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:08:59 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:12:41 -!- jaboja has joined. 19:19:05 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:29:49 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:35:46 -!- nycs has joined. 19:36:23 -!- nycs has quit (Client Quit). 19:38:47 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:43:00 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 19:48:50 -!- xkapastel has joined. 19:52:14 -!- watered has joined. 19:56:08 [wiki] [[Esolang talk:Funding]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53377&oldid=53365 * JayCampbell * (+136) Donation 20:04:58 -!- zzo38 has joined. 20:05:10 $5/month lol 20:08:04 -!- int-e has left. 20:08:04 -!- int-e has joined. 20:12:55 $5 a month here, $5 a month there... it can add to a serious amount quickly. 20:14:45 fizzie: You should turn esolangs.org into an organization that's permitted to use Google Cloud. 20:22:28 -!- sleffy has joined. 20:30:56 -!- `^_^v has joined. 20:35:04 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 21:09:45 -!- MrBusiness has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:13:26 shachaf: It would need "a potential economic benefit", so presumably the non-profit models I was actually looking at wouldn't qualify. 21:13:37 add ads hth 21:14:06 Or just make it a for-profit. 21:18:05 I don't think that's in the spirit of the thing. 21:19:15 Do what Mozilla does 21:19:38 A for-profit owned by a non-profit. 21:20:11 I guess. They're a slightly bigger operation, though. 21:22:10 -!- MrBusiness has joined. 21:24:22 slightly. 21:32:45 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 21:33:36 Isn't there some theorem about this, for how you can always decompose a bounded profit corporation to a non-negative profit and a non-positive profit one? 21:35:31 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:39:37 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 21:39:56 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 21:40:22 -!- ais523 has joined. 21:40:59 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 21:45:09 sooooo 21:45:24 magic the gathering is turing complete? 21:45:34 yes, or, well, it depends on your exact definitions 21:45:56 the construction on http://esolangs.org/wiki/StackFlow unfortunately doesn't quite work because I misunderstood the rules for trigger timing 21:45:59 http://www.toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/index.html 21:46:05 hopefully it's fixable though 21:46:54 -!- erkin has joined. 21:50:29 -!- LKoen has joined. 21:51:53 It's super-Turing 21:52:17 You need to solve the halting problem to decide whether a game is a draw. 21:54:27 shachaf: I'm not sure that /specifically/ has been proven, Alex Churchill's constructions IIRC require player decisions sometimes, and my construction doesn't quite work 21:54:28 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:55:51 -!- garit has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:55:52 I though there was a way to do computation without player decisions. 21:57:09 there probably is, but my proof of it has a mistake in 21:57:16 so we need a new proof 21:57:41 -!- Remavas has joined. 21:58:54 -!- garit has joined. 21:58:54 -!- garit has quit (Changing host). 21:58:54 -!- garit has joined. 22:00:56 -!- Remavas has quit (Client Quit). 22:08:32 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 22:08:41 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:26:04 -!- `^_^v has joined. 22:31:33 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 22:32:21 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * SomethingFwaful * New user account 22:35:21 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53378&oldid=53370 * SomethingFwaful * (+335) 22:36:00 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 22:55:34 -!- jaboja has joined. 22:58:31 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 23:08:39 -!- zseri has joined. 23:08:55 hi 23:10:07 hi zseri 23:18:00 Hi. 23:33:04 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 23:34:32 And yes, the suggestion that the mythic rare vanilla creature is a Host is tempting, but I think ultimately it's false because the Hosts all have a triggered ability. 23:35:09 I wonder if it's something with non-integers in it 23:35:46 Or something with Phyrexian mana, which we know returns in unstable on at least one card (but then un-sets are like Time Spiral, they will have mechanics returning for just one card) 23:36:40 Like a phyrexian version of Reaper King 23:36:57 but that would be too abusable. you'd cast it for 10 life in your first turn. 23:38:37 I hope it's not just a vanilla back side of a flip card, like Markov's Servant 23:39:28 It can't just be an 1.5/0.5 artifact creature for {0.5} or something, because that wouldn't be mythic. 23:39:50 Maybe it's just a 100/100 creature for {21} or something 23:40:38 Or a contraption creature with no crank ability? 23:40:51 I don't think so 23:41:28 The first Teenage monster? 23:47:01 OH! They printed the "last strike" ability in unstable! 23:47:03 FINALLY! 23:48:19 And a red direct damage spell with trample. Brilliant. It doesn't work per rules of course, but still, brilliant. 23:49:17 Multi-Headed doesn't have menace? 23:50:17 Selfie Preservation is also a nice idea 23:50:33 [wiki] [[FISHQ9+]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53379&oldid=53364 * Zseri * (-117) some improvements 23:50:52 Reminds me to First Come, First Served sort of 23:53:28 bye 23:53:30 Oh! And Labro-Bot *is* an artifact. I was wondering about that. 23:53:31 -!- zseri has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:54:30 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 23:58:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer).