< 1511482936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1511482996 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Wonder if ffmpeg could render two different streams of subtitles on top of a video (say top and bottom). Probably. < 1511483073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spämmi! < 1511483084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's been a while since the last one. < 1511483091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of bitcoin spam though. < 1511483247 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are they telling you you could make a guaranteed $13000 in just 24 hours, or some such? < 1511483320 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although just now there's Rainer from Vienna, who I've allegedly met 2 months ago in a hotel and asked to tell me how to get "extra money on crypto currencies". < 1511483487 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511483519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1511483533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't remember < 1511483547 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1511483553 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello! < 1511483557 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1511483561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but obviously with bitcoin raising eightfold in a few months it's the thing to spam. < 1511483577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bitcoin < 1511483579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoins are coins that have been drilled through with a bit, and can be strung together in long chains. This practice dates to ancient China, and the Chinese remain experts in bitcoin manufacturing. A chain can support up to 21 million coins before breaking. < 1511483817 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511484485 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1511486642 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511486736 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511486785 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511486813 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511486886 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511486912 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511487462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloony < 1511487666 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is baking not a type of cooking? <-- possibly, but not for the scandinavian cognates - "koking" means boiling < 1511487685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which might have confused Vorpal) < 1511487758 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes speaking to americans is fairly useless at the moment < 1511487787 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytqiqrqbiaxampxu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1511487832 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: quite likely < 1511487842 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really understood Thanksgiving, and notably how it differs from Christmas < 1511487845 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two seem very similar < 1511487849 0 :MrBismuth!~ArcMrBism@104-50-90-48.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1511487874 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thankgiving < 1511487877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankgiving? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1511487879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1511487881 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thanksgiving < 1511487882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanksgiving? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1511487895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanksgiving is not quite my holiday < 1511487940 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Wikipedia implies that the US Thanksgiving is the equivalent of (genetically related to, as much as holidays have genes) the british Harvest Festival < 1511487947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet they're really quite different in nature < 1511487949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm are they even cognates actually < 1511487976 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK what basically happens is that people donate food to the school (normally tinned food), they make a big display out of it < 1511487979 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then give it all to food banks < 1511488009 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think its main purpose is to educate children about where food comes from < 1511488021 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not something that you automatically know without being told < 1511488028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do american jews celebrate thanksgiving in general? < 1511488072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's not strictly a religious holiday, so i wouldn't know) < 1511488131 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems as though what happened is Britain had a tradition of a large harvest, which was retained more recognizably in the US, and in the UK mutated rather heavily? < 1511488135 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*large harvest feast < 1511488178 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right, it was more celebrating the end of the harvest, I think < 1511488185 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've done all the work gathering the food you need for the winter < 1511488190 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may as well celebrate by eating some of it < 1511488223 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think part of it, though, is just the US has a myth that connects it to our national origins. < 1511488240 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which naturally will tend to keep it a bit more recognizable. < 1511488252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1511488276 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I heard that buying tinned food and donating it to food banks is a very inefficient use of money < 1511488283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to give the food banks the money directly < 1511488299 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not /very/ inefficient, but it does waste some money because they can purchas in bulk < 1511488313 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very efficient use if you had the food already and just forgot to eat it, and it's getting close to expired < 1511488342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they might also purchase different things, not just the same things in bulk < 1511488380 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the extra cheerfullness factor from the food having been selected by children trying to be kind has any effect < 1511488412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh en:cook and no:koke _are_ cognate, but both are latin borrowings. < 1511488510 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511488596 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511488601 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511488631 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511488652 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: come to think of it, I suspect the food is involved unconditionally because that's what the festival requires < 1511488661 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gets donated to food banks merely to avoid having to throw it away < 1511488687 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511488714 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511488846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Funding14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53415&oldid=53377 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+1947) 10Reply and reorganize a bit. < 1511489421 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: EMBRACING CHICKEN < 1511490587 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sqmxusijydtziogt JOIN :#esoteric < 1511490815 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511491619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: rainer from vienna finally got around to me, it seems < 1511492036 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@104-50-90-48.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511492505 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Rainer sent me a second email just now. They must be getting desperate. < 1511492570 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's rainer < 1511492891 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:5303:3469:bc83:3f4b:288c:21c6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511493654 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511493669 0 :Jojo__!~friendlyG@50-50-136-197.snpr.wi.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511493674 0 :Jojo__!~friendlyG@50-50-136-197.snpr.wi.frontiernet.net PART #esoteric : < 1511493688 0 :Jojo_!~friendlyG@50-50-136-197.snpr.wi.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511493691 0 :Jojo_!~friendlyG@50-50-136-197.snpr.wi.frontiernet.net PART #esoteric : < 1511497119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511500207 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1511500335 0 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511500364 0 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511500379 0 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511502013 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: sorry for my connection < 1511503743 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:5303:3469:bc83:3f4b:288c:21c6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1511503883 0 :watered!~water@157.49.15.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511506460 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1511507398 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1511508144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1511509557 0 :watered!~water@157.49.15.207 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511513087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511513103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511513426 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to official Un-cards of Magic: the Gathering, some people make up unofficial Un-cards. You can have cards that you rip in half as you draft them, tapping/untapping stuff other than permanents, unexplained keyword abilities, adding stuff other than mana into your mana pool, and demons in your nose. < 1511513557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tap/untap a player? < 1511513562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the stack? < 1511513646 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you can't tap/untap a player or the stack (or any objects in the stack). But, Un-cards can ignore this! < 1511513937 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy Priests of the Future {WW} Creature - Human Cleric (1/1) ;; Faith-Healing ;; Bands with other creatures having at least as much faith as ~ < 1511514129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't like mushrooms, right? < 1511514137 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about cashew nuts? < 1511514740 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1511515008 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the one that was suggested by this IRC: Demons In Your Nose {UB} Instant ;; If there are any Demons in your nose, you may cast them. Each of those spells gains flying. < 1511515102 0 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511515387 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sqmxusijydtziogt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1511515523 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511515679 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511515683 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1511515776 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there apparently used to be people who knew things about Conway Game of Life here < 1511515952 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511516273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1511516377 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some things about, but, perhaps not much more than what the rules are. < 1511516413 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I made a program that can execute it, too) < 1511516909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet made a HashLife implementation in Mathematica in here once < 1511516929 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511516966 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel showed up in a 7 year old board thread < 1511516973 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I said hey why not < 1511516977 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( The do-s and don't-s of M:tG card design: Don't. ) < 1511516997 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you program zzo you are half (something?) qualified (theoretically) to answer my next question < 1511517014 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1511517040 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, I have fond memories of Magic < 1511517053 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic Was a Way of Life.. or .. uh FOCUS Phoeni : ) < 1511517056 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1511517069 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic 5am question < 1511517082 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the smallest initial form that has the biggest explosion in complexity? < 1511517088 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be a few answers < 1511517097 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on the top of my head is R pentamonio < 1511517108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a standard measure for that? < 1511517114 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1511517116 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence why I am here < 1511517144 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my awesome 5am scribbles that explodes like R penta .. and then ... oh shit it got Meta < 1511517146 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine that most reasonable meanings of complexity grow BB-style in the size of the initial pattern < 1511517149 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Douglas Hofstadter Likes thisd < 1511517155 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm So Meta Even This Acronym < 1511517187 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So among the things I don't know is "how to measure" as pointed out < 1511517195 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :R Penta goes BALLISTIC < 1511517206 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but say an 8 item pattern could go "more" < 1511517210 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it "starts bigger" etc < 1511517215 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this stuff < 1511517248 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=Infinite_growth#Small_infinite_growth_patterns < 1511517263 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so zzo38 for example if you are a programmer you could just do an Add-on < 1511517327 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...giving several 11-cell patterns with infinite growth" < 1511517339 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just because it adds glider guns or stuff < 1511517345 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow that's not "complex" < 1511517351 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more questions : ) < 1511517392 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT borrowing from that article I'll grab a vocab word < 1511517422 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like R Penta and then SOMEWHERE in the life cycle add 1 pixel in the most compact way to keep it going < 1511517432 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "feeding" the life < 1511517455 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the end result "keeps wandering all over doing stuff" < 1511517485 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So THAT is my second level question < 1511517489 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first half was warmup < 1511517493 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :- ------------------ < 1511517931 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is baking not a type of cooking? <-- possibly, but not for the scandinavian cognates - "koking" means boiling < 1511517931 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : (which might have confused Vorpal) < 1511517934 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1511517962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Vorpal Scandinavian? < 1511517970 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm from Sweden yes < 1511517996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you live in -- the UK? < 1511517999 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1511518001 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Sweden < 1511518027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought maybe you were in the US. < 1511518047 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My memory is no good. < 1511518263 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ec44:ed8a:f9ed:8ca8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511520388 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: By the way, since we've tended to share these -- it's not exactly a panorama, but I was out taking pictures of a Light Thing the other night: https://zem.fi/tmp/beamrules.jpg < 1511522164 0 :watered!~water@157.49.15.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511522415 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1511523155 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511523353 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511525367 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511526638 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RELATIVE CHICKEN < 1511526692 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1511526719 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1511526774 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: A "light thing"? < 1511526781 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is quite pretty yes < 1511526791 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lasers into fog? < 1511526836 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: by the way, the only reason I have been on at all this week is that I have been home with a severe cold, so I had nothing better to do < 1511526891 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :with regards to "not paying attention to internet stuff" I mentioned yesterday < 1511527809 0 :watered!~water@157.49.15.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511527875 0 :watered!~water@157.49.15.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511528596 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think those were just regular lights into fog. But there were some lasers as well: https://zem.fi/tmp/lasers.jpg < 1511528611 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: And just lights in general: https://zem.fi/tmp/gates.jpg < 1511528628 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you live in a cool place! < 1511528704 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: My wife says it makes no sense London has all these things and Finland/Helsinki has none, even though the latter would have ample supplies of darkness and woodland. < 1511528897 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1511528907 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least three recurring yearly light shows somewhat like this (the photos are from Syon Park's Enchanted Woodland, but there's also the Magical Lantern Festival at Chiswick House and Christmas at Kew in Kew Gardens) plus some more conventional "light art" thingies (Winter Lights Festival at Canary Wharf, the Lumiere festival just generally around London). < 1511529113 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I flickr'd some photos of the Canary Wharf one last year, https://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzief/albums/72157676045132054 < 1511529173 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, and apparently the Magic Lantern Festival as well.) < 1511529302 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: looks cool, especially the ones with horizontal ribbons between the trees < 1511529310 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was that made? < 1511529351 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that was just physical ribbons coated with something that glows under UV light, and then some UV lamps pointed at them on the ground. < 1511529357 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah < 1511529753 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ec44:ed8a:f9ed:8ca8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511529938 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should try to execute some parts of the XTW interpreter parallel. < 1511530668 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in the VM < 1511530744 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping the VM didn't magically come into life, right? < 1511530748 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1511530752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa! < 1511530753 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did? < 1511530757 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1511530829 0 :watered!~water@157.49.15.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511530862 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Was it not-alive then? < 1511530990 0 :watered!~water@157.49.13.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511530995 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: non-alive when? < 1511531003 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was non-alive a few days ago < 1511531063 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wonder, instead of random people sending money to you, does any of the virtual machine providers support the option where random people can pay money directly to the hosting provider over the internet and that money appears on that virtual machine's account if they add the rihgt incantation? < 1511531093 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that. Yeah, it's been back for quite a while now. I don't think it was down for more than four days or so. < 1511531147 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... I was busy then, or something < 1511531184 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511531196 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if "non-owner payments" are a thing with any provider. Could be. < 1511531207 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I've been looking for accepts bitcoins, FWIW. < 1511531228 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/for/at/ < 1511532696 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511535999 0 :watered!~water@157.49.13.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511536078 0 :watered!~water@157.49.13.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511536609 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh boy, Cloud at Cost is having a Black Friday sale ;) < 1511536821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, let's buy more of them. < 1511537400 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a rather random question, but I'm having some trouble Googli.. I mean, searching Google for it. Does anyone happen to know if there exists a cheap device for plugging a POTS landline handset to a computer in a full-duplex way? < 1511537404 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I can find are (a) record-only boxes that slot between the phone base and the mic/speaker handset, (b) FXO devices that make a computer be able to interact with a POTS system, and (c) a few very Skype-specific USB devices intended for doing Skype calls from an old landline phone. < 1511537412 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just basically want to make an old phone an audio I/O device. (Or possibly just the handset part, but it'd be more elegant to use the entire phone.) < 1511537566 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1511537566 0 :garit!~garit@188.29.165.107.threembb.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1511537566 0 :garit!~garit@188.29.165.107.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1511537566 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1511537568 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Excess Flood < 1511537656 0 :garit!~garit@188.29.165.107.threembb.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1511537659 0 :garit!~garit@188.29.165.107.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1511537659 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1511537800 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make such a device? < 1511538617 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1511538863 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. I used to have a voice-capable ISA modem card that might've been able to do it, but that's back in Finland anyway. < 1511538866 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found a few instructions about the handset part (though mostly just about recording), and that might be easier, since AIUI it's really just a specific kind of microphone and speaker. The phone system itself is probably a little more involved. < 1511538871 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not particularly good at electronics. < 1511538989 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1511540549 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511540954 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zufqaqaesxfbvtuo JOIN :#esoteric < 1511542085 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511542767 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511542962 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, CaC is spamming me. < 1511543149 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1511543331 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1511545124 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha discounted crap < 1511546047 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511546691 0 :atrapado_!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1511547664 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1511548850 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some closure: looks like the thing I was talking about is called a "FXS adapter" in telephony land, and there are no cheap ones, except for build-your-own projects. The cheapest alternative seems to be some sort of standalone VOIP box, which can be had in the £15-20 price range used. < 1511549783 0 :watered!~water@157.49.13.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511549839 0 :watered!~water@157.49.13.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511550241 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511550273 0 :watered!~water@157.49.13.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511550329 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1511551361 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511553092 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallo gang < 1511553106 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll repeat since I posted my question when no one was up < 1511553112 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any experts on Conway's Game of Life here? < 1511553588 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1511554473 0 :watered!~water@157.49.12.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511555727 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511556317 0 :ATMunn!?@? NICK :nnuMTA < 1511556523 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zufqaqaesxfbvtuo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1511557258 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1511557338 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1511557810 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Alas. < 1511557829 0 :shikhin!shikhin@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1511558231 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phoeni: i watched two and half YouTube videos about it, so im an expert. Feel free to ask your question =) < 1511558283 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray! < 1511558298 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How far did your videos take you? < 1511558313 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and a HAALF!" (Eddie Murphy) : ) < 1511558322 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(HAAAAYYAAALF!!) ) < 1511558322 0 :atrapado_!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1511558323 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1511558336 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's start easy < 1511558361 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you make dots, and they either are lonely and die off, or crowded, and the middle one die of < 1511558375 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most really early positions in the "crowded" stage die off in stages < 1511558382 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far so good? < 1511558545 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cells are formed into patterns. < 1511558677 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but patterns from a set of rules that you re calculate turn after turn < 1511558712 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 you were here earlier < 1511558719 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you still have your program? < 1511558793 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked, and the 5 dot config called R pentamonio dies off in about 1100 turns < 1511558800 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has a boundary < 1511558829 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can't be that hard to run it 3200 times adding one pixel at a time a bunch of choices < 1511558848 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phoeni: it doesn't die off. it emits multiple gliders. < 1511558859 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that another pattern? < 1511558863 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I am skipping the gliders < 1511558877 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw those, but one sec lemme look at something again < 1511558878 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1511558948 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1511558968 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ot taking the time to count exactly, it produces 4-5 gliders so they "end off into space" but in the main colony it stabilizes < 1511558979 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I am referrring to < 1511559008 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but before that it gets into all these fantastic patterns < 1511559041 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I am curious if you add 1 pixel somewhere in the run if you can keep it going wild without locking down < 1511559069 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not just 1, so there is some sets of minimum numbers of pixels per overall complexity growth < 1511559089 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since the original is FIVE and it explodes into 1100 cycles < 1511559096 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be that many new pixels < 1511559105 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :So whats your question < 1511559121 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just typed it < 1511559127 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange stuff is happening and there is no way to quickly predict it (usually) < 1511559134 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : so I am curious if you add 1 pixel somewhere in the run if you can keep it going wild without locking down < 1511559151 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so just a brute force < 1511559159 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1511559165 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my question < 1511559181 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a computer can do it in an organized fashion < 1511559193 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can greatly optimize the execution though < 1511559201 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1100 steps is small, this slow web version was done in ten seconds < 1511559209 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :by press calculating whole patterns, excluding empty areas, etc < 1511559225 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1511559234 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer can calculate something like 1 billion cell-steps per second < 1511559236 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I am just curious how to find out < 1511559262 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :brute force < 1511559277 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case "a billion cell steps' but with the "wonders of multi plex sims" it's 110 steps times (guess) 2000 locations for the pixel < 1511559279 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no way to solve it algorithmically < 1511559305 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :game of life is Turing complete, you can encode any program in it < 1511559322 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ny making quick prediction about it, you could solve any possible problem faster < 1511559324 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :by* < 1511559327 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just like to see it programmed out < 1511559373 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came here because the room title was obscure programming stuff and specifically a board post said a few people knew some stuff about it and zzo38 earlier said he'd already made one < 1511559396 0 :garit2!~garit@188.29.164.136.threembb.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1511559396 0 :garit2!~garit@188.29.164.136.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1511559396 0 :garit2!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1511559499 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounded like an easy test case for a programmer to crank out < 1511559511 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone cared < 1511559546 0 :garit2!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solving quick game of life simulation = solving all possible programs < 1511559578 0 :garit2!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :its literally the same, as asking to solve how to simulate any given program faster than it takes usually < 1511559584 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511559660 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right but answering a diff question than I had < 1511559663 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do still have the program of course < 1511559669 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for one quick piece of data < 1511559682 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh "of course" - heh things happen < 1511559688 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs get lost to dead hard drives : ) < 1511559733 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so zzo38 in concept *I think* all you'd have to do is put a loop and add 1 pixel to the run of the center population ignoring the gliders once they're out of range < 1511559746 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see which one pixel adds the most to the whole colony < 1511559765 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly two < 1511559783 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or because of the crowding rule deleting one pizel < 1511559786 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same idea < 1511559833 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had the idea to add some food : ) < 1511559884 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Wolfram's New Kind of Science but last I looked it over I didn't see the Food idea < 1511560147 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-flauebwvlpnngizg JOIN :#esoteric < 1511561594 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the legend of the phoeni... < 1511561765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't that a book by Nesbit? < 1511561773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, I'm mixing up two books by Nesbit. < 1511561875 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you add an "x", it's the opening line of daft punk's "get lucky" and the name of an upcoming anthology from gilded dragonfly books < 1511562081 0 :watered!~water@157.49.12.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511562344 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are partly right < 1511562353 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a new channel for me to ne in < 1511562372 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phoenix is right, just like you think, and more accurately, the male one from the Egyptian lineage < 1511562392 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the missing X is some mostly forgotten wordplay little thing I was pondering one year < 1511562406 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and IRC only lets you sorta have 1 name per network < 1511562530 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use NS GROUP to add multiple names to your account if you want to do, although only one name is in use at once. < 1511562597 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh that's new to me, what's that? < 1511562620 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately I don't have all that many, but userenames are how the net runs and it's irritating < 1511562628 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An account is not required, but it is possible to do. Issue the command "NS HELP" to the IRC server for a description. < 1511562651 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that freenode only or across most of the big networks? < 1511562674 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NS HELP < 1511562693 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all IRC networks implement it, but some do. (Which subcommands are implemented under NS also can differ by network) < 1511562737 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then do I Identify back and forth? < 1511562771 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes I came across Nickserv isn't on all the networks, but I'll deal with that later < 1511562780 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just doing basics today : ) < 1511562841 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are registered, then you can use the PASS or NS IDENTIFY command to authenticate so that you can be logged in. < 1511562855 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am registered for Phoeni < 1511562858 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did some time back < 1511562865 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you switch names? < 1511562875 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Issue the NICK command to switch names. < 1511562884 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right that part I got < 1511562892 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1511562897 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be confusing myself < 1511562910 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme think < 1511562938 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A. So if I am in teo IRC channels at the same time, I can't have two nicks going at once, unless that's what Group does < 1511562957 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have only one name per connection. < 1511562959 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two < 1511562963 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1511562981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need two connections if you want to use two names at once. < 1511562989 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :B, THEN, I think Twitch gets grouchy and only wants one twitch name per (something) < 1511563013 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my gaming twitch gets smashed into my chess twitch name < 1511563040 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure I've done landline and mobile before < 1511563042 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two connectionds < 1511563057 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that work for Twitch too < 1511563070 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So at home I might have to do AdiIRC and Kiwi or something < 1511563107 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean landline and mobile; I mean just connecting twice to the IRC server, with the same IRC client for both connections if it supports multiple connections to the same server. < 1511563166 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Different IRC clients work differently, and you may need to look at the documentation for the IRC client you are using.) < 1511563282 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's new to me too, also something to think about < 1511563292 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :things to do when not studying < 1511563982 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use hexchat here, and I think it supports two connections to the same server but I'm not sure. < 1511564025 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a survey of clients about 3 years ago and AdiIRc becae my "winner" < 1511564052 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1511564058 0 :Phoeni!AdiIRC@cpe-69-201-138-83.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think I glanced at hexchat but it just didn't make my list for now lost reasons to do with intuition < 1511564255 0 :zseri_!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1511564266 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, works < 1511564274 0 :zseri_!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PART #esoteric : < 1511564594 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511564633 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511564754 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1511564754 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1511565145 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1511565145 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1511565559 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric : You don't have any massages < 1511565624 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1511565624 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1511565684 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dosthelloswork, Relloger9, zsellori. lambdabot doesn't massage hth < 1511565806 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I parallelized some namespace copy work in the XTW interpreter. < 1511567348 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you looked at my new esolang yet? < 1511567637 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1511567663 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is titled "Crement" (ais523 gave it this name, because I didn't have a name for it at first) < 1511567744 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1511567961 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86D672.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be interesting to have a instruction which allows to copy a previous instruction (given by address field) after the last command