00:01:21 <\oren\> why does a credit card payment to someone else take 3-5 business days but transferring money to my credit card is instantaneous? 00:02:27 Transferring money to my credit card takes as much as any ACH transfer. 00:02:38 Unless it's within the same bank maybe. 00:06:05 <\oren\> yeah they are both with TD 00:06:22 <\oren\> TD credit card and TD checking account 00:12:08 Then it's probably because the bank can do internal transfers easily. 00:14:17 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! 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Delicious. 02:02:24 basicfuck needs delicious categories too 02:03:35 quintopia: Do you think basicfuck is low-level? (It's a somewhat abstracted language that compiles to brainfuck). 02:03:41 [wiki] [[Basicfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53449&oldid=53436 * Rdococ * (+80) 02:04:03 [wiki] [[Swapfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53450&oldid=53448 * Rdococ * (+35) 02:09:04 it is usually categorized as such 02:09:21 oh i dont know 02:09:23 nvm 02:09:33 your choice 02:10:01 The language is pretty simple. It's designed to reduce the need for temporary variables, which get taken care of by the compiler. 02:13:03 [wiki] [[Basicfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53451&oldid=53449 * Rdococ * (+93) 02:14:37 For the moment, I've added the low-level category template to the basicfuck article. 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Also a Groadep who misses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. 08:54:03 `swrjan s/pt/ek/ 08:54:05 oerjan//Your omnidryad saddle principal swatty kind "Darth Eek" oerjan the shifty knite is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who misses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. 09:07:02 `? ineek 09:07:03 ineek? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 09:07:12 @wn ineek 09:07:13 No match for "ineek". 09:08:05 -!- LKoen has joined. 09:19:50 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:20:54 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:22:56 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 09:39:17 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:14:04 -!- watered has joined. 11:35:17 -!- boily has joined. 11:46:27 `5 w 11:46:32 1/2:something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom//It is now. \ sgeo//Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex, thus killing it within a month. He was Doctor Mengele in his previous life, as evidenced by his norn experiments. \ oic//OIC, OIC means Oh I see. \ for further details for futher de 11:46:33 `n 11:46:33 2/2:tails.//See `? for further details for futher details. \ veetan//Veetans are a race of cuddly, yet sturdy aliens in the Drive comic. Their maximum lifespan is 25 years, but they use it well. 11:47:09 uh oh 11:47:11 use it well? 11:47:18 am i using my lifespan well? 11:47:20 help tdnh 11:48:22 shachaf: you can use your lifespan well to acquire lifespan from the lifespan table! 11:53:57 -!- watered has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 12:00:12 Taneb: How does that work? 12:00:35 shachaf: it's quite a simple pulley system, actually 12:00:53 As you turn the handle, a rope coils or uncoils, raising or lowering a bucket 12:00:58 A well W is said to be /lifespan/ if there exists a nonempty collection of lives L for which W is contained in span(L). 12:04:20 `? ance 12:04:21 Spelling of -ance/-ence words: advance, science, conference, experience, finance, insurance, licence, performance, reference, assistance, balance, defence, difference, distance, evidence, acceptance, appliance, audience, compliance, importance, influence, instance, intelligence, maintenance, preference, presence, sentence, sequence, substance, viol 12:04:31 viol 12:04:44 `2 \? ance 12:04:45 2/2:violence, absence, accordance, alliance, appearance, assurance, attendance, circumstance, clearance, confidence, consequence, entrance, excellence, existence, fragrance, governance, guidance, independence, offence, refinance, residence, resistance, romance. 12:04:54 attendance, with an "a". ok. 12:05:26 I get the feeling a lot of this is based on what conjugation a verb in Latin is 12:05:44 Cale: Wouldn't W be "lifespanned"? 12:06:18 Taneb: I think it's mostly based on old french, and french and english took most of the words from there. latin didn't have half of those words. 12:06:20 Or maybe if it was equality rather than subset 12:06:20 "insto" is first conjugation, hence "instans" => "instance" 12:06:30 fo' insto' 12:06:32 although they might be somehow remotely basd on latin or something 12:06:35 "existo" is third declension, hence "existens" => "existence" 12:10:09 Hmm, balans is a Latin word but it means something completely different 12:11:42 So, a lot, possibly most, but certainly not all, are as I thought 12:27:59 helloochaf, Tanelle, Chello, b_jellonas. 12:28:18 fo instizzle ma nizzle. 12:29:08 -!- boily has quit (Quit: UNSTABLE CHICKEN). 13:08:17 -!- ais523 has joined. 13:52:05 -!- watered has joined. 13:55:18 -!- watered has quit (Client Quit). 13:55:37 -!- watered has joined. 14:05:30 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:06:42 -!- ais523 has joined. 14:09:51 -!- ais523 has quit (Client Quit). 14:10:06 -!- ais523 has joined. 14:42:12 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:03:43 -!- augur has joined. 15:13:27 -!- zseri has joined. 15:15:34 @messages? 15:15:34 Sorry, no messages today. 15:24:19 [wiki] [[XTW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53452&oldid=53400 * Zseri * (+60) +plugin loading 15:24:41 I added a plugin system to XTW. 15:30:48 -!- LKoen has joined. 15:33:32 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 15:50:05 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 15:51:20 -!- augur has joined. 15:53:05 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 15:58:25 -!- watered has joined. 16:13:10 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:49:16 -!- FreeFull has joined. 16:54:10 -!- augur_ has joined. 16:58:41 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 17:03:01 -!- sleffy has joined. 17:05:56 -!- augur_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:20:02 [wiki] [[User:Conor O'Brien/Compilers]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53453 * Conor O'Brien * (+167) Created page with "Index of "compilers". Here I write "higher level" languages that compile down into esoteric languages. # [[User:Conor O'Brien/Compilers/Quartic|Quartic]] → [[4]]" 17:20:09 [wiki] [[User:Conor O'Brien]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53454&oldid=52566 * Conor O'Brien * (+50) 17:33:18 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:37:44 -!- watered has joined. 17:41:01 -!- xkapastel has joined. 17:54:18 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:05:55 -!- LKoen has joined. 18:10:51 -!- watered has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 18:11:03 -!- watered has joined. 18:11:04 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:12:51 -!- doesthiswork1 has joined. 18:12:52 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:13:34 -!- watered has quit (Client Quit). 18:13:53 -!- watered has joined. 18:15:33 -!- watered has quit (Client Quit). 18:15:51 -!- watered has joined. 18:17:13 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 18:17:13 -!- doesthiswork1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:18:14 http://esoteric.codes/post/167978996903/ais523-interview-2017 18:22:04 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:34:19 Such fame 18:36:14 -!- watered has joined. 18:37:09 -!- jaboja has joined. 18:42:52 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:50:45 ais523: oh... let me look 19:12:44 [wiki] [[User:Conor O'Brien/Compilers/Quartic]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53455 * Conor O'Brien * (+4266) Created page with "Quartic is a language designed to compile to the language [[4]]. Written in Ruby, the compiler can be found [https://gist.github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/02bb95b48a143e26b6331fc8a..." 19:29:07 <\oren\> Apparently modern compilers don't emit any of the special string instructions when compiling strcmp, strcat, etc 19:29:51 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:31:38 Wait really? I don't think that's true at all. 19:31:42 GCC certainly does 19:32:51 -!- shikhin has quit (Changing host). 19:32:51 -!- shikhin has joined. 19:45:29 \oren\: yes, at least when optimizing for speed, but it depends on what exact cpu generation you're optimizing for 19:47:43 -!- sleffy has joined. 19:49:21 [wiki] [[User:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53456&oldid=53369 * B jonas * (+120) link interview 19:54:44 -!- LKoen has joined. 19:55:29 I think there's a typo in that interview, at "The niceness of a language that has a very simple implementation like this is that it’s easy to precisely specify how it works in both However," 19:56:54 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:57:42 I noticed a few typos 20:01:29 I should find time to work on that esolang I want to create 20:02:38 I think I even know now how to prove that it (the esolang I want to make) can efficiently simulate a pointer machine (not just a Turing-machine, which I knew it could simulate) 20:40:29 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 20:44:54 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Quit: Blame iczero something happened). 20:44:54 -!- ATMunn has quit (Quit: lol rip). 20:45:15 -!- ATMunn has joined. 20:45:27 -!- ATMunn has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:46:21 -!- ATMunn has joined. 20:47:31 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 20:47:52 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Changing host). 20:47:52 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 20:55:52 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:57:48 -!- augur has joined. 20:57:56 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 21:06:57 `olist 1106 21:06:58 olist 1106: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas 21:29:23 -!- atslash has joined. 21:39:04 -!- sleffy has joined. 21:52:20 -!- LKoen has joined. 22:00:01 -!- zseri has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:03:22 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 22:04:30 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 22:06:09 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:19:05 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:19:09 @tell oerjan Ancilla thanks! 22:19:09 Consider it noted. 22:30:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:31:35 -!- LKoen has joined. 22:40:22 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:43:01 -!- garit has joined. 22:43:01 -!- garit has quit (Changing host). 22:43:01 -!- garit has joined. 22:45:53 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 23:00:21 -!- sleffy has joined. 23:13:47 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:21:31 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:21:32 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:24:20 -!- fungot has joined. 23:26:01 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:38:33 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 23:39:29 -!- atslash has joined. 23:49:13 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:50:11 -!- moony has joined.