00:00:56 -!- garit has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 00:08:43 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:21:54 -!- sleffy has joined. 00:53:09 so that's why I've mentioned multiple times. 00:58:09 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 01:04:40 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:10:11 @time oerjan 01:10:12 Local time for oerjan is Thu Jan 18 02:10:11 2018 01:11:03 lambdabot needs a plugin that tells you the time in ØST 01:16:54 the timezone is correct hth 01:18:59 ØST would take your actual sleep schedule into account hth 01:20:10 fungot: Have you started tracking time in GST twnh? 01:20:10 fizzie: yay for packaging s48-refman! ( list-vector lst) n x)) 01:20:15 Ørjan Sleep Time? 01:21:15 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:26:07 . o O ( does oerjan sleep? is it sleep? is he a mystical seer who can enter a trancelike state and cast nutella balls to see the Future? ) 01:40:37 -!- ^v has joined. 01:55:15 -!- Roger9 has quit (*.net *.split). 01:55:17 -!- digitalcold has quit (*.net *.split). 01:55:18 -!- yorick has quit (*.net *.split). 01:55:18 -!- zgrepc has quit (*.net *.split). 01:55:25 -!- Roger9 has joined. 01:55:27 -!- digitalcold has joined. 01:57:02 -!- zgrepc has joined. 01:59:42 boiZZZelly 02:04:07 -!- Melvar has joined. 02:14:03 is oerjan going to swat me for my stretch of a pun twh 02:23:17 shachaf: we apologize for the delay, logreading will resume shortly. 02:29:48 -!- boily has quit (Quit: DIVINE CHICKEN). 03:09:32 well, just as soon as i get something to eat, anyway. 03:30:10 -!- ocharles has quit (*.net *.split). 03:31:52 -!- ocharles has joined. 03:33:27 -!- danieljabailey has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:35:04 -!- danieljabailey has joined. 03:48:03 -!- sleffy has joined. 03:48:09 `? this 03:48:11 This is something people on the channel like to talk about. We're often unsure what this is, though. 03:49:35 * oerjan applies a terminal saucepan to shachaf ===\__/ 03:50:27 oh hm 03:50:53 `swrjan s/twice/thrice/ 03:50:55 oerjan//Your omnidryad saddle principal swatty kind "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty loud punster is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He thrice punned without noticing it. 03:51:02 i didn't notice that hth 03:52:23 `revert 03:52:24 Done. 03:52:26 then i did 03:52:44 (what are the rules for noticeless puns, anyway) 04:09:17 * oerjan has half a mind to ban b_jonas until he stops editing wisdoms with perl -e 04:44:15 -!- variable has joined. 04:47:24 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 04:53:53 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 05:08:01 -!- variable has quit (Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero). 05:18:13 oerjan: p. sure if you notice it immediately it counts as noticing 05:40:55 OKAY 05:41:32 -!- sleffy has joined. 06:14:50 -!- sprocklem has joined. 06:30:18 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 07:08:12 oerjan: The thing is, if you pun without noticing it, and then you notice it, it doesn't count 07:08:36 But if you don't notice it, everyone else thinks it was on purpose 07:30:21 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 07:39:09 that's OKAY I CAN CORRECT THEM 07:40:06 I consistently procrastinate alighting bed please advise 07:40:07 this is why swatting was invented hth 07:40:35 Taneb: i suggest not putting your bed alight hth 07:41:01 But then how else will I get out of it 07:41:57 try springs 07:42:06 At this time of year?? 07:42:11 Maybe in a couple of months 07:42:30 catapult, then 07:42:40 Might work 07:42:43 try swallowing 07:42:56 but more than once, one swallow doesn't bring the spring 07:44:01 african or european swallowing? 07:46:17 Probably European 07:46:26 I'm in Britain after all 07:48:31 And we're not going to be leaving Europe until next year at least 07:50:32 good, good 08:02:28 -!- FreeFull has quit. 08:07:27 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 08:17:22 Taneb is Dutch anyway, right? 08:17:38 That's a mystery 08:17:59 Like, genuinely, I don't know if I'm eligible for Dutch citizenship or not 08:22:05 imo go get it 08:25:28 I intend to try 08:26:11 Oh man, just a few years ago your were intending to intend to try to try 08:26:16 Big improvement 08:27:55 Trying to do something is monadic 08:28:04 If you can do something, you can try to do it 08:28:14 If you can try to try to do something, you can try to do it 08:28:59 And if when you can do something it means you can do something else, if you can try to do the first thing you can try to do the second 08:29:53 I think it's a modal operator 08:30:15 What's the dual? 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(www.adiirc.com)). 15:49:23 @google coinfluence 15:49:25 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coinfluence 15:49:45 `coins 15:49:49 ​nevisitcoin (coin ambdacoin rewcoin stre-calcoin autcoin ortcoin daskercoin picoin omgrusecoin cobombillcoin novelcoin autucoin formacoin tingcoin digicoin ilosimulacoin singcoin autucoin deltaphycoin 15:50:04 fungot: do you have any singcoin? 15:50:05 int-e: opening a fnord thingie now, so need only decide when to truncate decimals that are irrational? 15:50:19 fungot: I'll take that as a yes. 15:50:19 int-e: old code that unfortunately hasn't been maintained in about a day 15:51:01 fungot: that's an awfully quick deprecation cycle 15:51:01 int-e: parse error near token " work".) be arbitrarily big? because then continuations are free ( in the us, and those two programs would not be hard to find 16:01:54 int-e: Sounds very much like the way things go here at work. 16:02:12 The standard joke is that there's always two ways to do anything: the one that's deprecated, and the one that's not ready yet. 16:02:28 Sometimes there's a third way that's not ready yet, but also deprecated. 16:10:27 -!- garit has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:33:00 -!- xkapastel has joined. 16:41:42 -!- moei has joined. 16:41:59 -!- garit has joined. 16:41:59 -!- garit has quit (Changing host). 16:41:59 -!- garit has joined. 16:45:25 -!- augur has joined. 17:11:15 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:39:52 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 18:30:51 -!- zseri has joined. 18:34:09 -!- sprocklem has joined. 18:38:31 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 18:42:59 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:54:32 -!- zseri has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:04:39 -!- sleffy has joined. 19:07:47 -!- jaboja has joined. 19:22:45 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:25:08 [[Black Turing-completeness proof]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53840 * Keymaker * (+34136) Black Turing-completeness proof via translation. 19:31:04 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:31:23 -!- augur has joined. 19:34:08 [[Black]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53841&oldid=49856 * Keymaker * (-260) /* Computational class */ 19:35:23 [[Black]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53842&oldid=53841 * Keymaker * (+16) Categories. 19:37:59 [[Black]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53843&oldid=53842 * Keymaker * (+132) Interpreter. 19:41:02 [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Keymaker * uploaded "[[File:MMtoBlack23123.png]]": A Minsky Machine program translated into Black, execution at step 23123. 19:45:31 [[Black]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53845&oldid=53843 * Keymaker * (+94) Added image of a translated program running. 19:48:26 [[Black]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53846&oldid=53845 * Keymaker * (+2) Fixed image layout. 19:50:27 [[User:Keymaker]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53847&oldid=53613 * Keymaker * (+38) Linked Black proof. 20:05:20 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...). 20:10:14 -!- Guest6549 has changed nick to Slereah. 20:15:39 `" 20:15:40 879) * GreyKnight puts some cookies inside a forcefield ⌇⌇ o o o ⌇⌇ what now c00kiemon5ter?!? * c00kiemon5ter omnomnomnomnomnomnomnom but how did he get through the forcefield?!? @u@ I did not! the cookielicious force within me grew outside the forcefield absording the crumbles dar 20:16:10 `" 20:16:11 512) Phantom_Hoover: Sort of a monadic human centipede. \ 1247) I'm making a new font. I'm up to the capital E with diarhea 20:18:33 -!- PinealGlandOptic has joined. 20:24:49 -!- Bowserinator has changed nick to Ansible. 20:24:54 -!- Ansible has changed nick to Bowserinator. 20:25:20 -!- imode has joined. 20:37:00 <\oren\> I really want to destroy catholicism before 900. anyone know an easy wy to get a claim on Latium? 20:45:10 \oren\: um, Latium is supposed to be quite expensive because it's rare and can't be replicated. so I don't think there's an easy way. 20:45:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:53:04 `? mapole 20:53:06 A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. 20:54:44 @ask boily why are mapoles measured in inHg and not mmHg tdnh 20:54:44 Consider it noted. 20:55:28 shachaf: it's to avoid big numbers, duh 20:57:50 then why not kmHg twh 21:03:07 0.5inHg is about 0.0000127kmHg, which is even bigger 21:22:28 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Quit: leaving). 21:30:29 how about fnHg 21:30:44 (fortnights of mercury) 21:35:05 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:40:51 -!- ineiros has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:40:58 -!- ineiros has joined. 21:41:05 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:43:52 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 21:48:44 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:11:02 -!- shikhin has quit (Quit: Alas.). 22:11:32 `olist 1110 22:11:33 olist 1110: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas 22:12:27 -!- shikhin has joined. 22:16:25 -!- shikhin has quit (Client Quit). 22:17:52 -!- shikhin has joined. 22:33:23 -!- augur has joined. 22:35:07 -!- LKoen has joined. 22:35:57 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 22:36:33 -!- jaboja has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:52:39 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 23:05:32 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 23:08:10 -!- augur_ has joined. 23:08:34 ok, question 23:08:41 given the operator association rules in C# 23:08:52 and the following line of code: double base_max_thrust = GetPowerThrustModifier() * GetHeatThrustModifier() * AttachedReactor.MaximumPower / _maxISP / PluginHelper.GravityConstant * GetHeatExchangerThrustDivisor(); 23:09:17 is base_max_thrust going to be directly or inversely proportional to the result of GetHeatExchangerThrustDivisor()? 23:11:01 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 23:14:20 directly 23:14:34 that looks like a recipe for numerical instability though 23:16:33 mm 23:16:45 i'm reading this code in the first place because i'm v. suspicious of its results 23:18:12 it's for a KSP mod that lets you attach a thermal rocket nozzle to a nuclear reactor and what i've observed is that for nozzles much smaller than the reactor the thrust output is insanely large 23:18:42 this is the source of the actual function https://github.com/sswelm/KSP-Interstellar-Extended/blob/8ef9bd112e899bc74ff6a2df9933aabf4de458fe/FNPlugin/Propulsion/ThermalNozzleController.cs#L1518 23:24:16 -!- moei has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 23:32:24 i don't know what the actual fuck is up with the normalizeFraction function directly below though 23:32:57 what kind of normalisation is f(x) = (x+1)/2?? 23:33:59 -!- brandonson has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:37:53 half, with slightly different rounding 23:38:29 -!- brandonson has joined. 23:40:16 alercah, well, half plus a half 23:40:57 Phantom_Hoover: I'd seriously look for instability though 23:42:31 instability should only matter if the quantities involved are either very small or the computation is iterative though, surely? 23:45:27 very small or very large 23:45:32 and that includes intermediate quantities 23:45:41 you have a lot of multiplications and divisions going on 23:45:50 it's possible for instability to come out of getting too big or too small on any intermediate value 23:46:06 also working with quantities of different magnitudes can lead to instability as well 23:46:18 though that's more with addition/subtraction 23:50:16 lol i worked it out 23:50:44 it's because the reactor radius variable is actually constant for a given model even if you change its size 23:50:51 christ this mod is so frustrating 23:51:11 i can never tell which parts are rocket science i don't understand, which parts are half-finished features and which parts are total bugs